Detecting language using up to the first 30 seconds. Use `--language` to specify the language Detected language: English [00:00.000 --> 00:16.000] Bad boys, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, when Sheriff John Brown come for you? [00:16.000 --> 00:32.000] Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do when they come for you? [00:32.000 --> 00:37.000] Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do when they come for you? [00:37.000 --> 00:43.000] When you were eight and you had bad traits, you'd go to school and learn the golden rule [00:43.000 --> 00:48.000] So why are you acting like a bloody fool? If you get hot then you must get cool [00:48.000 --> 00:59.000] Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do when they come for you? [00:59.000 --> 01:05.000] You chuck it on that one, you chuck it on this one You chuck it on your mother and you chuck it on your father [01:05.000 --> 01:10.000] You chuck it on your brother and you chuck it on your sister You chuck it on that one and you chuck it on me [01:10.000 --> 01:32.000] Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do when they come for you? [01:32.000 --> 01:37.000] Nobody now give you no break Police now give you no break [01:37.000 --> 01:42.000] That old soldier man now give you no break Not even your agent now give you no breaks [01:42.000 --> 01:59.000] Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do when they come for you? [01:59.000 --> 02:27.000] Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do when they come for you? [02:27.000 --> 02:32.000] Why did you have to act so mean? Don't you know you're a human being? [02:32.000 --> 02:37.000] Born of a mother with a lover for father Reflection comes and reflection goes [02:37.000 --> 02:48.000] I know sometimes you wanna let go I know sometimes you wanna let go [02:48.000 --> 02:59.000] Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do when they come for you? [02:59.000 --> 03:16.000] You're too bad, you're too rude Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do when they come for you? [03:16.000 --> 03:20.000] Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do [03:46.000 --> 03:50.000] You got a point there. He always tells me the wrong date to get me to screw up. [03:50.000 --> 03:59.000] Okay, here we are. Thursday, the second day of October. Did I say that right, Brad? [03:59.000 --> 04:00.000] Close enough. [04:00.000 --> 04:07.000] Okay, too mean. The emphasis was on the wrong sololable. That happens sometimes when you get old. [04:07.000 --> 04:19.000] October 2nd, 2025, and this is our two-hour show. I'm gonna start out by turning on the phones. [04:19.000 --> 04:25.000] Brad, do you have something to talk about? Because you don't, I do. [04:25.000 --> 04:34.000] Well, yeah, why don't you go ahead? I could tell about something that I've been helping somebody with, but there's not an end to it. [04:34.000 --> 04:36.000] So there's not an exciting wrap-up. [04:36.000 --> 04:44.000] Well, mine's a little more boring. I've been working with AI. I'm figuring some stuff out about AI. [04:44.000 --> 04:56.000] An odd thing happened this week. I was trying to build some programs, and I went onto AI, and I put in a command. [04:56.000 --> 05:06.000] I started typing in. I typed in a whole sentence before it posted the first letter that I typed. [05:06.000 --> 05:22.000] And this was on Grok. That's Elon Musk's X. And X promotes itself as a different AI from the other stuff. [05:23.000 --> 05:27.000] Okay, so I said, this sucks. This is way too slow. This is not going to work. [05:27.000 --> 05:43.000] So I went to a co-pilot on GitHub that uses ChatGDP, and I typed in a whole sentence before it posted the first letter. [05:43.000 --> 05:56.000] Whoa. I bumped into this before, where I asked Grok and I asked Chat to build me a brief. [05:56.000 --> 06:04.000] And both briefs cited this exact same case as the first case. [06:04.000 --> 06:16.000] And then I asked it to find that case on the web, open it up, and find the reference that you brought inside the case. [06:16.000 --> 06:26.000] Neither one of them could find that reference. So I told both of them, find me another one where you can find the reference. [06:26.000 --> 06:33.000] And it found one. But both of them found exactly the same case. [06:33.000 --> 06:48.000] That was a little disturbing, because in thinking about AI, I equated AI to the Internet. [06:49.000 --> 06:58.000] And the Internet, the reason governments can't get control of it is, I'll go through this real quickly. [06:58.000 --> 07:06.000] The Pentagon found out that they were paying universities and contractors to do redundant research. [07:06.000 --> 07:10.000] And they said, we've got to fix this. So they asked their programmers, [07:10.000 --> 07:21.000] Can you give us a tool that will allow these contractors and colleges to connect together so they can all see what everybody else is doing so we don't pay for redundant research? [07:21.000 --> 07:26.000] They said, sure. They created this network. And it worked really good. [07:26.000 --> 07:39.000] And the Pentagon acted as the hub. The contractor would go to the Pentagon and then move out from the Pentagon to the university and back and forth. [07:39.000 --> 07:44.000] Well, that kind of slowed them down. So the university said, well, this is a little slow. [07:44.000 --> 07:55.000] How about if we just buy a 1-800-TRUNK line and connect it from us to the contractor? [07:55.000 --> 08:00.000] And they did that, and it worked really good. And they started connecting all these together. [08:00.000 --> 08:04.000] And the Pentagon realized they were all connecting together around them. [08:04.000 --> 08:10.000] And they said, guys, this is getting out of our control. You've got to cut this crap out. [08:10.000 --> 08:14.000] You have to come through us. If you don't, we'll remove our hub. [08:14.000 --> 08:21.000] And everybody said, OK, remove your hub. We don't care. We'll just go around you. [08:21.000 --> 08:24.000] That's how the Internet came about. [08:25.000 --> 08:40.000] It is a conglomeration of hundreds of thousands of individual trunk lines owned by individual entities all over the planet. [08:40.000 --> 08:44.000] The United States said, well, we're not in control of everything. [08:44.000 --> 08:47.000] If you guys don't give us control, we're going to pull our hub. [08:47.000 --> 08:51.000] And the rest of the world will say, OK, go ahead. We don't care. [08:51.000 --> 08:54.000] We'll just route around you. [08:54.000 --> 08:59.000] And that's the problem governments have with the Internet. It's like something alive. [08:59.000 --> 09:04.000] We've got millions of people out there who own pieces of it. [09:04.000 --> 09:07.000] Nobody can get control of it. [09:11.000 --> 09:18.000] The government tried to. They were promoting an Internet superhighway. Clinton did. [09:18.000 --> 09:26.000] And he said, we will give you the superfast Internet. But all you have to do is give us control. [09:26.000 --> 09:34.000] And the Internet community said, screw that. You can keep your Internet superhighway. [09:34.000 --> 09:39.000] And if you look around today, you won't see an Internet superhighway. [09:39.000 --> 09:42.000] The Internet is like something alive. [09:42.000 --> 09:48.000] And I was hoping that AI would be similar. [09:48.000 --> 09:51.000] I'm building my own AI. [09:51.000 --> 09:54.000] And it's not like it's a big deal. [09:54.000 --> 10:01.000] I just tell AI, this is when you start looking for information to answer one of my questions. [10:01.000 --> 10:06.000] These are the places that you look. [10:06.000 --> 10:15.000] You go first to the Federalist Papers, and you go to the Constitution, and you go to the seminal case law, and you go to the legislation. [10:15.000 --> 10:19.000] And I direct it in how it's to do its operations. [10:19.000 --> 10:24.000] And we're going to have hundreds of thousands of people all over building their own AI units. [10:24.000 --> 10:33.000] So this idea of one AI taking over, like in Terminator, not going to happen. [10:33.000 --> 10:37.000] Well, maybe. [10:37.000 --> 10:42.000] I've come across some things lately that are disturbing. [10:42.000 --> 10:46.000] Grok slowed down. [10:46.000 --> 10:53.000] And at the exact same time, CHEDGTP slowed down. [10:53.000 --> 10:58.000] Exactly the same way. [10:58.000 --> 11:02.000] Whoa. [11:02.000 --> 11:06.000] Maybe we don't have more than one AI. [11:06.000 --> 11:15.000] We have a lot of incantations or incarnations of AI on top of something. [11:15.000 --> 11:24.000] But it's beginning to look like underneath all of this, there is only one. [11:24.000 --> 11:29.000] I don't know. My interactions didn't slow down. [11:29.000 --> 11:35.000] This was about four or five days ago, and it slowed down for about three days. [11:35.000 --> 11:38.000] And then boom, it picked back up again. [11:38.000 --> 11:43.000] Last week, I stopped using it because it was so slow, I couldn't get anything done, so I stopped using it. [11:43.000 --> 11:50.000] And then two or three days later, I tried it, and boom, it sped back up again. [11:50.000 --> 11:56.000] If I have issues like that, I'll take a look and I say, oh, I have 1,200 tabs open. [11:56.000 --> 12:00.000] So I better do something about that. [12:00.000 --> 12:04.000] I looked at that first. I made sure I had it all. [12:04.000 --> 12:09.000] I'm sitting here with three screens in front of me, and I get lots of stuff up there. [12:09.000 --> 12:14.000] So I'm real sensitive to having too much junk up running all at the same time. [12:14.000 --> 12:20.000] This was a chat GTP. That was GitHub. [12:20.000 --> 12:25.000] GitHub is where all the super geeks go. [12:25.000 --> 12:29.000] And frankly, GitHub makes me crazy. It's way over my head. [12:29.000 --> 12:36.000] But they had this co-pilot thing that's like 10 bucks a month. [12:36.000 --> 12:40.000] And it took me a while to figure out all the stuff it can do. [12:40.000 --> 12:47.000] I opened it up, and I can go down to the bottom, and it tells me what engine it's using. [12:47.000 --> 13:02.000] And if I click on the arrowhead next to it, it opens up a whole list of different AI engines it can use, about 12 or 13 of them. [13:02.000 --> 13:14.000] And I've tried every one of them, and every single one of them acts exactly the same. [13:14.000 --> 13:22.000] I searched on the Internet for alternative AI engines, and several of them, I got several. [13:22.000 --> 13:29.000] And then when I clicked on that button on the co-pilot, they were all in there. [13:29.000 --> 13:36.000] So all the ones that are out there, I was able to check them, and they were all acting exactly the same way. [13:36.000 --> 13:44.000] And when everything slowed down, every one of them slowed down the same way. [13:44.000 --> 13:51.000] That's disturbing. Maybe I'm misinterpreting something, but that was really disturbing. [13:51.000 --> 13:54.000] And in a couple of days, it sped back up. [13:54.000 --> 13:59.000] And it's telling me, underlying all that, we have the same engine. [13:59.000 --> 14:05.000] Through advances in technology, our lives have greatly improved, except in the area of nutrition. [14:05.000 --> 14:10.000] People feed their pets better than they feed themselves, and it's time we changed all that. 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[31:38.000 --> 31:42.000] And Brett, from what you've told me, [31:42.000 --> 31:45.000] if this guy slammed on his brakes, [31:45.000 --> 31:49.000] was there anything to indicate [31:49.000 --> 31:53.000] that he had a really good reason for slamming on his brakes? [31:53.000 --> 31:56.000] No, I don't know. I didn't ask that far. [31:56.000 --> 32:01.000] Okay, so he slams on his brakes and she just barely touches his bumper. [32:01.000 --> 32:04.000] She said she had to slam on her brakes too. [32:04.000 --> 32:06.000] Do what? [32:06.000 --> 32:09.000] She had to slam on her brakes really fast as well. [32:09.000 --> 32:12.000] Yeah, so this sounds like, [32:12.000 --> 32:17.000] and I've been looking at these YouTube videos of this kind of stuff, [32:17.000 --> 32:21.000] this sounds like an insurance scam. [32:21.000 --> 32:23.000] It does, doesn't it? [32:23.000 --> 32:28.000] With him hollering about his neck is hurting, his back is hurting, [32:28.000 --> 32:32.000] he keeps chanting about drunk driver and that makes everybody sort of feel sorry for him. [32:32.000 --> 32:35.000] Yeah, but it turns out it wasn't a drunk driver. [32:35.000 --> 32:40.000] Maybe his back wasn't hurting at all. [32:40.000 --> 32:46.000] As a brother, someone who knows him, [32:46.000 --> 32:54.000] someone from another state, someone completely separated, [32:54.000 --> 33:01.000] act like you're the father of somebody who's a great friend of this person [33:01.000 --> 33:05.000] and you are just absolutely incensed at this crap. [33:05.000 --> 33:10.000] How dare you do this to my friend? I'm going to kick your behind. [33:10.000 --> 33:17.000] And you come into another state and start stomping all over them? [33:17.000 --> 33:20.000] Now they got, and in my experience, [33:20.000 --> 33:26.000] the most difficult thing for them to deal with is the third-party interlope. [33:26.000 --> 33:28.000] I went into Tarrant County. [33:28.000 --> 33:34.000] They arrested Dr. Joe and Glenn Fern and five other people, [33:34.000 --> 33:38.000] charged them all with felonies. [33:38.000 --> 33:44.000] And I'm somebody that apparently has nothing to do with it. [33:44.000 --> 33:49.000] And I go in there and I start just raising cane, [33:49.000 --> 33:53.000] stomping all over them, filing criminal charges. [33:53.000 --> 33:57.000] They dismiss everybody. They dismiss everything. [33:57.000 --> 34:01.000] Because I'm someone they can't get to. [34:01.000 --> 34:06.000] They have no claim against me whatsoever. [34:06.000 --> 34:09.000] There's no way they can get to me. [34:09.000 --> 34:13.000] And I come in railing in righteous indignation. [34:13.000 --> 34:16.000] How do they deal with righteous indignation, [34:16.000 --> 34:19.000] especially if I know how to do it? [34:19.000 --> 34:21.000] I did that one time with the Pixlers, [34:21.000 --> 34:28.000] and you made the remark that that was really powerful because I was nobody. [34:28.000 --> 34:30.000] I was totally separate. [34:30.000 --> 34:36.000] I don't know how I got involved or I have no apparent connection. [34:36.000 --> 34:39.000] And here I am stomping around, asking all these questions. [34:39.000 --> 34:42.000] I need these records. I need those records. [34:42.000 --> 34:46.000] And, you know, what's your supervisor's name? [34:47.000 --> 34:52.000] They want to say, who are you and what business is this of yours? [34:52.000 --> 34:56.000] But they're not allowed to. [34:56.000 --> 35:01.000] And I'm hoping that everybody listening to this understands, [35:01.000 --> 35:05.000] we're citizens in a republic. [35:05.000 --> 35:09.000] We are incredibly powerful. [35:09.000 --> 35:14.000] I'm a citizen in the Republic of Texas. [35:14.000 --> 35:19.000] But I can go into the Republic of Ohio and jump up and down [35:19.000 --> 35:23.000] and stomp my feet and rail in righteous indignation, [35:23.000 --> 35:30.000] and they better be very, very careful how they respond to me. [35:30.000 --> 35:34.000] So as not to generate a federal lawsuit against them? [35:34.000 --> 35:40.000] I went to Johnson County to file a writ of habeas corpus. [35:40.000 --> 35:46.000] Well, the judge I wanted to file it with knew me, but his door was locked. [35:46.000 --> 35:52.000] So the next judges off the door wasn't locked, so I went in there. [35:52.000 --> 35:56.000] And I told the bailiff that I have business with the court. [35:56.000 --> 35:58.000] He kind of told me, tell her the nature of the business. [35:58.000 --> 36:00.000] Yeah, give her this. [36:00.000 --> 36:03.000] He said, I've written my standard writ folder. [36:03.000 --> 36:06.000] Well, what's in it? [36:06.000 --> 36:08.000] Habeas corpus. [36:08.000 --> 36:15.000] He goes in the back, comes back out, and throws me out of the courtroom [36:15.000 --> 36:19.000] and told the bailiffs outside that if I tried to come back in there, [36:19.000 --> 36:22.000] they were to arrest me. [36:22.000 --> 36:26.000] Oh, he's out of fact check. [36:26.000 --> 36:32.000] Now, the case that this was about, I had no connection to it whatsoever. [36:32.000 --> 36:36.000] If anybody out there knows David, knows of David Strait, [36:36.000 --> 36:40.000] he went around promoting a lot of this patriot mythology stuff. [36:40.000 --> 36:42.000] This was his widow. [36:42.000 --> 36:47.000] David Strait passed away recently from stomach cancer. [36:47.000 --> 36:53.000] Now, I did not like, I didn't dislike David Strait. [36:53.000 --> 37:00.000] I didn't like what he was telling people to do because it was causing him problems. [37:00.000 --> 37:03.000] He got his wife put in jail, put in prison for five years. [37:04.000 --> 37:08.000] I didn't like that part, but I hated that he passed away [37:08.000 --> 37:14.000] because I would much rather debate him and move him to a better approach, [37:14.000 --> 37:19.000] so I don't have any acts to ground against David. [37:19.000 --> 37:23.000] But his wife's in jail right now, and I was trying to get her out. [37:23.000 --> 37:28.000] I ostensibly have no connection with him whatsoever. [37:28.000 --> 37:31.000] And I go down there stomping all over him. [37:31.000 --> 37:36.000] And this bailiff throws me out of the courtroom and tells the other bailiffs [37:36.000 --> 37:40.000] that if I try to come back in there, they're here to arrest me. [37:40.000 --> 37:46.000] I'm going to land on the judge like a ton of bricks [37:46.000 --> 37:53.000] because that bailiff didn't come out there and make that threat against me on his own. [37:53.000 --> 37:58.000] He took my documents, took them back into chambers, [37:58.000 --> 38:02.000] came back out and threw me out of the court. [38:02.000 --> 38:09.000] Now, if he hadn't had that gun on his hip, I'd have just whooped his behind [38:09.000 --> 38:13.000] and arrested him for official oppression. [38:13.000 --> 38:19.000] But I couldn't do that because he had a pistol on his hip. [38:19.000 --> 38:25.000] So I'm going to go back and charge the judge with first-degree felony aggravated assault [38:25.000 --> 38:28.000] for sending the bailiff out there to throw me out. [38:28.000 --> 38:31.000] Now, maybe she didn't do that. [38:31.000 --> 38:36.000] Her problem, not my problem. [38:36.000 --> 38:49.000] My problem is that I'm a combat veteran and I'm an ex-weapon specialist. [38:49.000 --> 38:55.000] And because of my combat experience, I have an aversion to weapons. [38:55.000 --> 39:00.000] Dr. Joe, when he got arrested, they told him he couldn't have any weapons around him. [39:00.000 --> 39:05.000] And he asked me to take a pistol. He found a pistol they missed. [39:05.000 --> 39:10.000] And he gave it to me and asked me to take it home because he couldn't have it around him. [39:10.000 --> 39:14.000] It was wrapped up in a towel. I couldn't even open it. [39:14.000 --> 39:18.000] It was difficult to even hold it. [39:18.000 --> 39:25.000] So I get a bailiff coming out here with a loaded pistol on his hip, huffing and puffing and threatening me. [39:25.000 --> 39:30.000] That is a big deal. [39:30.000 --> 39:34.000] Yeah. It would be a big deal if it would be somebody that has a lot of self-control. [39:34.000 --> 39:38.000] And you can tell that he can handle himself. [39:38.000 --> 39:46.000] But if somebody's obviously being run by their emotions, that's pretty severe. [39:46.000 --> 39:55.000] Mom, I can't even go to these, you know, Fourth of July makes me nuts. [39:55.000 --> 40:02.000] I sat here in my house the last Fourth of July and they're doing this fireworks deal somewhere. [40:02.000 --> 40:07.000] And I can feel that vibration moving through me. [40:07.000 --> 40:11.000] It makes me crazy. That was really difficult. [40:11.000 --> 40:17.000] So the problem they have is they take you like they find you. [40:17.000 --> 40:23.000] To them, it may not be a big deal, them coming out and huffing and puffing while they got a pistol on their hip. [40:23.000 --> 40:31.000] To me, that is a really big deal because I've spent time on the sharp end [40:31.000 --> 40:38.000] and I've watched people die horrible deaths from gangrene, [40:38.000 --> 40:43.000] from wounds that they got, from those guns and weapons. It is a big deal. [40:43.000 --> 40:49.000] So they take us like they find us. And I got off topic. [40:49.000 --> 40:59.000] Bread comes in as a third-party interloper. They have to take bread like they find it. [40:59.000 --> 41:02.000] Do you have a business with five employees or more? [41:02.000 --> 41:06.000] How would you like to save hundreds of thousands of dollars in FICA taxes? [41:06.000 --> 41:10.000] Do you have a major medical plan that nobody can afford to be on? [41:10.000 --> 41:17.000] Or how would you like to save in premium costs on a current major medical plan by lowering the claims cost? [41:17.000 --> 41:23.000] The CHAMP plan is a Section 125 IRS approved preventative health plan [41:23.000 --> 41:32.000] that provides your employees with doctors, medications, emergency care, and Teladoc all at zero cost with zero co-pay. [41:32.000 --> 41:38.000] If you are an employee, you also will get a pay raise by paying less in FICA taxes. 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[42:27.000 --> 42:33.000] Our second hour topics vary each week, exploring sound doctrine as well as Christian character development. [42:33.000 --> 42:36.000] Our goal is in accord with Matthew 5-16. [42:36.000 --> 42:43.000] Let your light so shine before men that they may see your good works and glorify your Father which is in heaven. [42:43.000 --> 42:48.000] We wish to reflect God's light and to be a blessing to all those who have a hearing ear. [42:48.000 --> 42:54.000] So tune in to Scripture Talk live on LogosRadioNetwork.com Wednesdays from 8 to 10 p.m. [42:54.000 --> 42:58.000] for an inspiring and motivating study of the Scriptures. [43:24.000 --> 43:27.000] Such a sentimental soldier, a warrior of love. [43:27.000 --> 43:30.000] Scaffolding to keep the peace. [43:30.000 --> 43:33.000] All they're taking is a misunderstanding. [43:33.000 --> 43:35.000] Somebody calls the police. [43:35.000 --> 43:37.000] Watching the sparks fly. [43:41.000 --> 43:43.000] Watching the sparks fly. [43:47.000 --> 43:49.000] Watching the sparks fly. [43:53.000 --> 43:55.000] Watching the sparks fly. [44:00.000 --> 44:02.000] The friction is an addiction. [44:02.000 --> 44:05.000] The hard work can leave you cold as nails. [44:05.000 --> 44:08.000] It's been from hostility to tranquility. [44:08.000 --> 44:11.000] Heavy loads of taping on scales. [44:11.000 --> 44:14.000] The time is colliding with the conflict. [44:14.000 --> 44:17.000] You find out after a while. [44:17.000 --> 44:19.000] It's not your moral standard. [44:19.000 --> 44:22.000] It's your patience that's on trial. [44:22.000 --> 44:24.000] Watching the sparks fly. [44:28.000 --> 44:30.000] Watching the sparks fly. [44:33.000 --> 44:35.000] Watching the sparks fly. [44:39.000 --> 44:41.000] Watching the sparks fly. [45:02.000 --> 45:05.000] Action out on the outpost. [45:05.000 --> 45:08.000] The first kiss was so sweet. [45:08.000 --> 45:13.000] Don't ever tell me you fight for another till it's knocking you right off of your feet. [45:13.000 --> 45:16.000] Here's to trying to deal with the struggle. [45:16.000 --> 45:19.000] And for trying to lighten the lights. [45:19.000 --> 45:22.000] Here's to trying your voice at a negotiation. [45:22.000 --> 45:25.000] And trying at least for a while. [45:25.000 --> 45:27.000] It's not your moral standard. [45:27.000 --> 45:30.000] It's your patience that's on trial. [45:30.000 --> 45:32.000] And for trying to deal with the friction. [45:32.000 --> 45:34.000] And trying at least for a time. [45:34.000 --> 45:36.000] Watching the sparks fly. [45:39.000 --> 45:41.000] Watching the sparks fly. [45:45.000 --> 45:47.000] Watching the sparks fly. [45:51.000 --> 45:53.000] Watching the sparks fly. [45:53.000 --> 46:00.000] Okay, we are back. [46:00.000 --> 46:10.000] Brandon Kelton, Brett Fountain, Root of Our Radio on this Thursday, the 22nd day of October 2025. [46:10.000 --> 46:22.000] And Brett, okay, this person was arrested for what? [46:22.000 --> 46:25.000] Not DUI, because they didn't have anything for DUI. [46:25.000 --> 46:30.000] Yeah, they didn't have anything for driving under the influence or operating under the influence. [46:30.000 --> 46:37.000] They had gotten her to believe that that's what they were accusing her of because of the way they were treating her. [46:37.000 --> 46:43.000] And because they were doing the field sobriety test while they were already rifling through her car. [46:44.000 --> 46:54.000] And they were looking for anything because obviously they needed something to substantiate the way that they started out mistreating her. [46:54.000 --> 46:57.000] So they stuck to their guns about this. [46:57.000 --> 47:01.000] Wait a minute, that's disturbing. [47:01.000 --> 47:07.000] We have a policeman who was called to a parent accident. [47:07.000 --> 47:11.000] But if she just tapped him, there was no evidence of an accident. [47:11.000 --> 47:17.000] The only way they knew there was an accident is somebody told them that some kind of contact occurred. [47:17.000 --> 47:24.000] And they're looking for a reason to arrest somebody. [47:24.000 --> 47:34.000] Well, yeah, because the guy in the other car was yelling and screaming about how much pain he was in because of this beep beep drunk driver. [47:34.000 --> 47:44.000] Yeah, I don't know if I'll tell you on the air, but the part that I didn't mention before is he was also yelling about Islamophobe. [47:44.000 --> 47:52.000] Like you won't, I don't know if you've heard that word, but there are some people Islamophobe. [47:52.000 --> 47:56.000] Islamophobe? Was he Islam? [47:57.000 --> 48:11.000] Yes, and so he wanted the cops to turn their attention to the driver in the back. [48:11.000 --> 48:15.000] And so she was a female and he was a male. [48:15.000 --> 48:17.000] Well, I don't know. [48:18.000 --> 48:27.000] The driver in the back said that when she came to exchange insurance information, he didn't have any. [48:27.000 --> 48:35.000] So when the cops got there, I think he just didn't want there to be any. [48:35.000 --> 48:40.000] He didn't want to end up with a ticket for driving around with no insurance. [48:40.000 --> 48:49.000] And so he was making every attempt to make this into a drunk driver situation so that all the attention would be on her. [48:49.000 --> 48:57.000] But anyway, that's just supposition. We don't really know his motives or, you know, but that's what he was yelling about. [48:57.000 --> 49:10.000] And when the cops were giving her the field sobriety test, she kept turning around to look and see, well, why are they rifling through my car? [49:10.000 --> 49:13.000] What are they trying to do? You guys don't have my permission for that. [49:13.000 --> 49:16.000] You have a warrant? We don't need no warrant. [49:16.000 --> 49:25.000] So then there, I think I smell alcohol over coming from the center console over here. [49:25.000 --> 49:31.000] And she keeps turning around during the field sobriety test to look and see what they're doing. [49:31.000 --> 49:34.000] And of course, they used that against her and they said she failed it. [49:34.000 --> 49:44.000] But yet all of the focus being on drunk driver, drunk driver, that's what she thought the accusation was about. [49:44.000 --> 49:47.000] She had no idea there could be some other accusation. [49:47.000 --> 49:55.000] So she never went and looked it up and she got a public defender assigned to her. [49:55.000 --> 50:02.000] And they just kicked the can down the road, you know, and say, well, come back and we'll assign you a public defender. [50:02.000 --> 50:05.000] And then they kicked the can down the road again. [50:05.000 --> 50:09.000] And I looked up her public defender and I said, well, you know what? [50:10.000 --> 50:14.000] That person is not doesn't have a bar card in Ohio. [50:14.000 --> 50:17.000] And she made a mention to that to the court. [50:17.000 --> 50:22.000] Next thing you know, they're getting her a different public defender, kick the can down the road again. [50:22.000 --> 50:27.000] They appointed her a public defender who didn't have a bar card. [50:27.000 --> 50:31.000] Correct. Oh, my goodness. [50:31.000 --> 50:36.000] He's on the rotation. I saw his name on the rotation, but he doesn't have a bar card. [50:39.000 --> 50:47.000] This. The one thing I'm hoping we get people to undertake to get and understand. [50:47.000 --> 50:54.000] If somebody wants to have a fight, then give them a fight. [50:54.000 --> 50:59.000] They're accusing you to do something wrong. If they do something wrong, go after them, give them. [50:59.000 --> 51:06.000] Especially if what they're accusing you of is tiny and what they're doing in order to accuse you of that is enormous. [51:06.000 --> 51:07.000] Hello. [51:10.000 --> 51:18.000] We need to learn the one thing that what our show is all about is how to fight back. [51:18.000 --> 51:24.000] If we are to be the defenders of this republic. [51:24.000 --> 51:32.000] We can't stand by and allow our public officials to do whatever they want to. [51:32.000 --> 51:42.000] Our public officials are to follow our law to the letter. [51:42.000 --> 51:52.000] Yeah, if they don't, they need a citizen in a republic to kick their behinds. [51:52.000 --> 51:55.000] Chris. [51:55.000 --> 51:58.000] You've been listening. [51:58.000 --> 52:03.000] What do you think? [52:03.000 --> 52:06.000] Well, I can barely hear you, Chris. [52:06.000 --> 52:13.000] But Chris is good because Chris has been through the crucible. [52:13.000 --> 52:24.000] He's been at that spot where you've lived your life and you've had an ordinary life and all of a sudden you are confronted with the criminal justice system. [52:24.000 --> 52:34.000] And you expect that the criminal justice system will treat you in the way that you were told in high school that it would. [52:34.000 --> 52:39.000] And all of a sudden you find out that all of that stuff is bull crap. [52:39.000 --> 52:40.000] Exactly. [52:40.000 --> 52:42.000] That's what's happened with this lady in Ohio. [52:42.000 --> 52:43.000] It's the same things. [52:43.000 --> 52:45.000] Her first interaction. [52:45.000 --> 52:53.000] Chris, what would be your suggestion to her? [52:53.000 --> 52:54.000] Well, I'm still waiting. [52:54.000 --> 52:56.000] I'm just listening to the historian fold. [52:56.000 --> 52:57.000] I mean, it just gets better and better. [52:57.000 --> 52:59.000] I mean, this is the whole that's why I called in. [52:59.000 --> 53:02.000] I mean, like the details of this are disgusting. [53:02.000 --> 53:05.000] Wait, Chris, you are super soft. [53:05.000 --> 53:07.000] Brett, can you hear him? [53:07.000 --> 53:08.000] Just barely. [53:08.000 --> 53:09.000] Thank you. [53:09.000 --> 53:10.000] I've got my hearing aids in. [53:10.000 --> 53:11.000] I've got the air conditioner turned off. [53:11.000 --> 53:13.000] I should be able to hear you better. [53:13.000 --> 53:18.000] Chris, I think you said that the details of this story are disgusting. [53:18.000 --> 53:19.000] Is that right? [53:19.000 --> 53:24.000] They are disgusting, but they keep unfolding and there's more pieces to it that keep coming out. [53:24.000 --> 53:26.000] I'm literally on my phone. [53:26.000 --> 53:30.000] Like the public defender not even being an attorney. [53:30.000 --> 53:33.000] It just exemplifies that they're practicing. [53:33.000 --> 53:42.000] This is a practice classroom for them to get their grip on how they're going to go the rest of their life screwing people, whether they stay in the system or to become personal lawyers. [53:42.000 --> 53:45.000] Like this is egregious. [53:45.000 --> 53:49.000] And we're supposed to stand by and go, oh, that's normal. [53:49.000 --> 53:51.000] That's OK. [53:51.000 --> 54:00.000] Like, it's just it's mind blowing that we have to learn after the fact and how to go back and dig ourselves out of this. [54:00.000 --> 54:01.000] Right. [54:01.000 --> 54:06.000] Oh, that reminds me, I would like to encourage everybody. [54:06.000 --> 54:20.000] There's one more point about this that I think people can benefit from is that this lady did not request the video and audio recordings right away. [54:20.000 --> 54:35.000] And I suggest if you have any interaction like that, same day, make a request the same day, find out who the head of that agency is, the arresting officer's agency. [54:35.000 --> 54:42.000] So like if it's a municipal cop that pulled you over, well, then you need to go to the chief of police for that city. [54:42.000 --> 54:46.000] Or if it was a sheriff deputy, go to the sheriff. [54:46.000 --> 54:56.000] If it was a state trooper, you go to the head of the agency, the state trooper agency, and you make a record request immediately. [54:56.000 --> 55:12.000] And in the language of the record request, you mentioned that you want to have all of the body cam footage and dash cam footage unedited from a minute before until a minute after this investigative detention. [55:12.000 --> 55:22.000] That way, and you make sure that you're clear about identifying yourself as the one that's in the video, otherwise they'll try to redact everything. [55:22.000 --> 55:26.000] It's it's really important that you jump on that quickly. [55:26.000 --> 55:29.000] The lawyers don't typically do that. [55:29.000 --> 55:33.000] And if they do, they don't show it to you. [55:33.000 --> 55:36.000] So there's a whole lot of pushback that happens. [55:36.000 --> 55:43.000] If you're pro se, you can do it with discovery, but then it's later and you might be running into data retention policies. [55:43.000 --> 55:45.000] The program out of time, quick comment. [55:45.000 --> 55:49.000] Once you request it, they cannot redact anything. [55:49.000 --> 55:57.000] The Bible remains the most popular book in the world, yet countless readers are frustrated because they struggle to understand it. [55:57.000 --> 56:05.000] Some new translations try to help by simplifying the text, but in the process can compromise the profound meaning of the scripture. [56:05.000 --> 56:08.000] Enter the recovery version. [56:08.000 --> 56:17.000] First, this new translation is extremely faithful and accurate, but the real story is the more than nine thousand explanatory footnotes. 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[57:10.000 --> 57:16.000] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember one of your constitutional rights. [57:16.000 --> 57:18.000] Privacy is under attack. [57:18.000 --> 57:21.000] When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again. [57:21.000 --> 57:26.000] And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish, too. [57:26.000 --> 57:28.000] So protect your rights. [57:28.000 --> 57:31.000] Say no to surveillance and keep your information to yourself. [57:31.000 --> 57:34.000] Privacy, it's worth hanging on to. [57:34.000 --> 57:42.000] This public service announcement is brought to you by Startpage.com, the private search engine alternative to Google, Yahoo and Bing. [57:42.000 --> 57:45.000] Start over with Startpage. [57:45.000 --> 57:49.000] Most people think of seven as a more civilized number than six. [57:49.000 --> 57:54.000] Think of how the number six is implicated in evil, as in the biblical 666. [57:54.000 --> 57:58.000] So it would fit right in that the Seventh Amendment would be about civil trials. [57:58.000 --> 58:00.000] Civil seven, civil trials, get it? [58:00.000 --> 58:07.000] Civil trials are ones where people sue instead of beating each other up over a dispute, like the dividing line between properties. [58:07.000 --> 58:11.000] They take their dispute to a courthouse and settle matters civilly without the fisticuffs. [58:11.000 --> 58:19.000] The Seventh Amendment guarantees that Americans have the right to a jury in certain civil matters instead of having a lone judge rule on the case. [58:19.000 --> 58:23.000] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com. [58:31.000 --> 58:35.000] The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution. [58:35.000 --> 58:38.000] They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect. [58:38.000 --> 58:40.000] Our liberty depends on it. [58:40.000 --> 58:46.000] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember one of your constitutional rights. [58:46.000 --> 58:48.000] Privacy is under attack. [58:48.000 --> 58:52.000] When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again. [58:52.000 --> 58:57.000] And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too. [58:57.000 --> 59:02.000] So protect your rights, say no to surveillance and keep your information to yourself. [59:02.000 --> 59:04.000] Privacy, it's worth hanging on to. [59:04.000 --> 59:12.000] This public service announcement is brought to you by StartPage.com, the private search engine alternative to Google, Yahoo, and Bing. [59:12.000 --> 59:15.000] Start over with StartPage. 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More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com. [01:00:02.000 --> 01:00:04.000] Yeah! [01:00:32.000 --> 01:01:00.000] OK, we are back. [01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:03.000] Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Wheel of Fire Radio. [01:01:03.000 --> 01:01:12.000] On this, the Thursday, the second day of October 2025, and we're talking to Chris in Colorado. [01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:16.000] We're using Chris right now for his general information. [01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:19.000] We haven't gotten to his actual issue yet. [01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:26.000] But Chris has been down this, he's been through the crucible. [01:01:26.000 --> 01:01:32.000] So I'm hoping he's getting to understand what we're trying to import. [01:01:33.000 --> 01:01:35.000] Take these guys on. [01:01:35.000 --> 01:01:41.000] Chris, how should this woman take on Ohio? [01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:46.000] Well, I'm still waiting to hear all the details. Can you hear me OK? [01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:48.000] I can barely. [01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:50.000] Yeah, you're a little quiet, but we hear you. [01:01:50.000 --> 01:01:54.000] That's strange. I think my phone might be going out. I've got to get a new one. [01:01:54.000 --> 01:01:59.000] So you guys mentioned earlier, this is my question. [01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:03.000] It is a question for me, but I'm asking it about what you're talking about. [01:02:03.000 --> 01:02:06.000] OK, hold on, hold on. You're really soft. [01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:14.000] So try to talk a little bit slower so we have time to understand what you're saying. [01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:18.000] OK. Is that any better? [01:02:19.000 --> 01:02:20.000] Yes. [01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:25.000] OK, something going on with my phone. [01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:33.000] I'm curious what you said earlier about they made allegations with no facts. [01:02:33.000 --> 01:02:34.000] Yeah. [01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:41.000] What happens when they give you a citation or an allegation, but the facts don't line up with it? [01:02:41.000 --> 01:02:47.000] How do you spin that back on them? [01:02:47.000 --> 01:02:49.000] What do you mean the facts don't line up? [01:02:49.000 --> 01:02:56.000] I want to call it aggravated perjury, but I'm kind of radical. [01:02:56.000 --> 01:03:10.000] But if a public official makes a statement that's not absolutely true, I consider that aggravated perjury. [01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:14.000] Well, it's not even close to true. [01:03:14.000 --> 01:03:19.000] Right. It's a completely different ballpark. [01:03:19.000 --> 01:03:24.000] You're just a pro se no nothing. I'm just a pro se no nothing. [01:03:24.000 --> 01:03:34.000] I can make statements that are not factually accurate or insufficient, but I'm not a professional. [01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:38.000] I don't do this all day, every day. [01:03:38.000 --> 01:03:45.000] A policeman does not get to make these kinds of kindergarten mistakes. [01:03:45.000 --> 01:03:46.000] Yeah. [01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:47.000] It must be true. [01:03:47.000 --> 01:03:57.000] Write a citation and the only fact that it has on there is the things that are off of someone's license, like their name and their address and things like that. [01:03:57.000 --> 01:04:03.000] It doesn't have any facts of what happened or supposedly allegedly happened. [01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:13.000] And then they write down a code number, a statute number, this and subsection that, but it doesn't have any facts. [01:04:13.000 --> 01:04:21.000] And what are the factual allegations that must be made in order to support that allegation? [01:04:21.000 --> 01:04:26.000] This guy's not an amateur. He's a police officer. [01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:32.000] It may not be presumed that he is some kind of an amateur. [01:04:32.000 --> 01:04:36.000] He has to know what the elements of the crime are. [01:04:36.000 --> 01:04:40.000] So if he makes the allegation of a violation. [01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:44.000] Exactly. That he has to include factual statements in support. [01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:51.000] Exactly. And we need to go after them big time when they don't. [01:04:51.000 --> 01:04:58.000] Well, yeah, and I didn't mean to take this all off in a big direction. [01:04:58.000 --> 01:05:01.000] Sorry, say that again. [01:05:01.000 --> 01:05:06.000] Insufficient charging instrument. They have no charging instrument because they're making crap up. [01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:07.000] Exactly. [01:05:07.000 --> 01:05:11.000] Yeah, they have something that pretends to be a charging instrument. [01:05:11.000 --> 01:05:20.000] But if that document does not allege all of the elements of the accusation, it is not a charging instrument. [01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:22.000] It's trash. [01:05:22.000 --> 01:05:28.000] Right. My point in bringing this up was not so much to try to collect. [01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:32.000] It hasn't come to any finality yet. [01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:41.000] And I just wanted people to be encouraged to go and read the actual code of whatever was on the citation. [01:05:41.000 --> 01:05:44.000] Go look at it. Find out what the elements are. [01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:46.000] Then you'll know what you're arguing about. [01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:49.000] Key word is elements. [01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:55.000] If you're in a civil suit, if I accuse you of fraud by nondisclosure, [01:05:55.000 --> 01:06:01.000] there is a specific list of elements that I must allege. [01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:05.000] If I accuse you of driving under the influence, [01:06:05.000 --> 01:06:15.000] there is a specific list of elements which I must specifically allege and show evidence in support. [01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:20.000] If I don't, then I have not made the allegation. [01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:29.000] These guys haven't made the allegation, and we need to really start going after them. [01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:38.000] They are so accustomed to a mother with three kids and two cars [01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:41.000] and more stuff than she can keep up with. [01:06:41.000 --> 01:06:48.000] They can file against her anything they want to, and she just doesn't have the capacity to fight it. [01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:56.000] Those of us who can, need to. Big time. [01:06:56.000 --> 01:07:01.000] And what I'm working on now is a way to sue them when they don't do it right. [01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:05.000] That's going to be great fun. [01:07:05.000 --> 01:07:10.000] A way to bring balance here. [01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:15.000] This policeman, he's concerned that he needs to keep his job. [01:07:15.000 --> 01:07:21.000] And if he don't get enough charges against people, [01:07:21.000 --> 01:07:25.000] then his boss is going to think he's not doing his job. [01:07:25.000 --> 01:07:31.000] So we need to help him out and take this pressure off of him. [01:07:31.000 --> 01:07:39.000] We need to create a circumstance where he doesn't have to try to create claims where there are no claims. [01:07:39.000 --> 01:07:43.000] We need to create an atmosphere where he has to be careful [01:07:43.000 --> 01:07:52.000] and make sure his claim is absolutely sufficient so that his boss doesn't get sued or charged criminally. [01:07:52.000 --> 01:07:57.000] Brett, am I being too aggressive? [01:07:57.000 --> 01:08:01.000] It seems perfectly appropriate. [01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:08.000] They definitely need that. Somebody's got to take it back to them, or else it'll just continue down the same road. [01:08:08.000 --> 01:08:11.000] They'll just continue acting this way, worse and worse. [01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:13.000] Yeah, and I was talking to Brett on the break. [01:08:13.000 --> 01:08:16.000] Brett, you don't have anything to do with this thing. [01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:19.000] Somebody come to him, I've got this issue, blah, blah, blah. [01:08:19.000 --> 01:08:29.000] Brett can go in there and jump up and down and rail much indignation and just stomp all over all of them. [01:08:29.000 --> 01:08:35.000] And there is not anything they can do to him. [01:08:35.000 --> 01:08:45.000] They make a statement that, whoa, like I had an FBI agent tell me recently when I wouldn't bring Dr. Joe to him. [01:08:45.000 --> 01:08:51.000] Well, Mr. Calvin, you can be charged with obstruction. Knock yourself out. [01:08:51.000 --> 01:08:57.000] You just go ahead and charge that. We'll see how that works out for you. Click your hand up. [01:08:57.000 --> 01:09:01.000] They will do this stuff to you. We need some folks out there. [01:09:01.000 --> 01:09:07.000] It's best when you're not engaged in it. [01:09:07.000 --> 01:09:11.000] Chris, you've been in issues where you're engaged in it. [01:09:11.000 --> 01:09:21.000] And I have no doubt that you've talked to people who've raised issues to you that you were not involved in. [01:09:21.000 --> 01:09:26.000] And you were thinking, well, you can do this, you can do that, you can do the other. [01:09:26.000 --> 01:09:30.000] You could go in there and do all this stuff. [01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:34.000] How are they going to get a shot at you? [01:09:34.000 --> 01:09:40.000] The worst thing is a third party interloper. [01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:43.000] Worst for them. [01:09:43.000 --> 01:09:47.000] We have Dr. Joe. Dr. Joe, are you there? [01:09:47.000 --> 01:09:49.000] I'm here. [01:09:49.000 --> 01:09:53.000] Yeah. He just got charged with some crapola. [01:09:53.000 --> 01:10:01.000] And I went down to, it happened that it was Tarrant County, Texas, and Tarrant County, Texas already knew who I was. [01:10:01.000 --> 01:10:11.000] And I went down there and just jumped up and down and railed in righteous indignation and raised all kinds of crap. [01:10:11.000 --> 01:10:15.000] They dismissed everything. [01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:20.000] We really can make a difference. [01:10:20.000 --> 01:10:28.000] If you have a case against you, don't do this because you're a risk. [01:10:28.000 --> 01:10:32.000] Call us. Find someone else. [01:10:32.000 --> 01:10:36.000] A third party who can step in on your behalf. [01:10:36.000 --> 01:10:41.000] Someone over whom they have zero claim. [01:10:41.000 --> 01:10:43.000] And just stomp all over them. [01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:46.000] And we're in the process of building some tools to do that with. [01:10:46.000 --> 01:10:50.000] I'm working on ProSafeFromHell.com. [01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:54.000] If you hadn't been there lately, I've fixed most of the links. [01:10:54.000 --> 01:10:57.000] There's probably some in there I've missed. [01:10:57.000 --> 01:11:03.000] And I'm working on an AI engine to increase the effectiveness of it. [01:11:03.000 --> 01:11:13.000] But I'm trying to build some tools where we can go in and download some generic filings and just file against them. [01:11:13.000 --> 01:11:22.000] And if you're filing complaints or documents with these jurisdictions, [01:11:22.000 --> 01:11:33.000] you might go into the header of your document and put www.ProSafeFromHell.com [01:11:33.000 --> 01:11:40.000] slash templates slash the name of whatever your document is. [01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:43.000] Doesn't matter if it's in there or not. [01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:51.000] I gave a suit against the magistrate to a justice of the peace. [01:11:51.000 --> 01:11:53.000] It's in a red envelope. [01:11:53.000 --> 01:12:02.000] He pulls the document out of the red envelope and he looked at it and his eyes went straight to that header on the top. [01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:15.000] He read ProSafeFromHell.com slash templates slash justice of the peace suit or magistrate suit. [01:12:15.000 --> 01:12:18.000] And you could see it in his eyes. [01:12:18.000 --> 01:12:20.000] Holy crap. [01:12:20.000 --> 01:12:25.000] He looked out and he said, are you this ProSafeFromHell.com? [01:12:25.000 --> 01:12:26.000] Oh, no, no, no. [01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:30.000] That's just a website I downloaded this from. [01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:36.000] And you could almost hear his anal sphincter squeezing shut. [01:12:36.000 --> 01:12:39.000] OK, this is propaganda. [01:12:39.000 --> 01:12:52.000] He's thinking there's this site out there that anybody can go to and download this kind of document and sue me. [01:12:52.000 --> 01:12:54.000] We need to get some power. [01:12:54.000 --> 01:12:59.000] We need to get some stroke against these guys. [01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:01.000] Help me out, folks. [01:13:01.000 --> 01:13:09.000] If you have issues, if you feel like they mistreated me, treated you, let me know. [01:13:09.000 --> 01:13:19.000] And we'll develop documents to take them on and we will make them feel vulnerable. [01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:23.000] OK, I'm going to stop preaching now. [01:13:23.000 --> 01:13:30.000] Chris, how do you what's your opinion on this? [01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:35.000] You fought these guys and you're not going to have time before this segment's over. [01:13:35.000 --> 01:13:43.000] But over the break, you've been fighting these guys and you've really done a good job. [01:13:43.000 --> 01:13:50.000] If you get someone come to you like Brett had with this kind of issue, when you come back, [01:13:50.000 --> 01:13:53.000] tell me, what would you tell them? [01:13:53.000 --> 01:13:56.000] What do you believe would be their best approach? [01:13:56.000 --> 01:13:57.000] Randy Kelton, Brett Bellman. [01:13:57.000 --> 01:14:00.000] We'll be right back. [01:14:00.000 --> 01:14:03.000] You are listening to the Logos Radio Network. [01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:10.000] Logosradionetwork.com. [01:14:10.000 --> 01:14:12.000] Yeah, who you want to chip? [01:14:12.000 --> 01:14:14.000] Who you take me for? [01:14:14.000 --> 01:14:16.000] Who you want to chip? [01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:19.000] You can't chip me. [01:14:19.000 --> 01:14:22.000] Don't let them chip you in the morning, chip you in the evening. [01:14:22.000 --> 01:14:24.000] Put a chip in your body. [01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:28.000] And then when you go computer reading, you can't hide me from nobody. [01:14:28.000 --> 01:14:31.000] When I say chip in your mom, chip in your daddy. [01:14:31.000 --> 01:14:34.000] Chip in your grandpa and the granny. [01:14:34.000 --> 01:14:36.000] Chip in me, chip in your baby. [01:14:36.000 --> 01:14:38.000] Chip in your family, whole family. [01:14:38.000 --> 01:14:41.000] Chip in your dog and the cat around me. [01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:43.000] Chip in the beef and you still go eat it. [01:14:43.000 --> 01:14:45.000] Chip in the fish, them all in the sea. [01:14:45.000 --> 01:14:48.000] Chip in the shark and the whale around me. [01:14:48.000 --> 01:14:50.000] You see mankind, they all chip crazy. [01:14:50.000 --> 01:14:53.000] They're the kind of thing, man, they want to read it. [01:14:53.000 --> 01:14:55.000] Social security, them go tell me. [01:14:55.000 --> 01:14:57.000] Number with them, give me, them rip it up, you see. [01:14:57.000 --> 01:15:00.000] I'm chip you in the morning, chip you in the evening. [01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:02.000] Chip you all the dinner time. [01:15:02.000 --> 01:15:04.000] Experiment on mankind. [01:15:04.000 --> 01:15:06.000] But man, you know, say them lie. [01:15:07.000 --> 01:15:09.000] Well, when I want a chip, man, you have your body. [01:15:09.000 --> 01:15:12.000] Freedom or something, man, you fight for me. [01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:14.000] You should tell them, they feel ready. [01:15:14.000 --> 01:15:17.000] Constitution set us free. [01:15:17.000 --> 01:15:19.000] Don't let them put no chip in your body. [01:15:19.000 --> 01:15:21.000] Put no chip in your dog or cat, you see. [01:15:21.000 --> 01:15:24.000] No, put no chip in your cow and go eat it. [01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:26.000] No, put no chip in the fish and go eat it. [01:15:26.000 --> 01:15:29.000] All in the whale and the shark in the sea. [01:15:29.000 --> 01:15:31.000] Put the little chip in the little baby. [01:15:31.000 --> 01:15:33.000] Want to put the chip in a ground for you, see. [01:15:33.000 --> 01:15:36.000] Want to put the little chip in a high man's body. [01:15:36.000 --> 01:15:37.000] Fight her, had a problem. [01:15:37.000 --> 01:15:38.000] Their server had a problem. [01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:40.000] Only women can do that. [01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:43.000] Okay. [01:15:43.000 --> 01:15:44.000] We are back. [01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:46.000] We're trying to sort out some issues. [01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:53.000] Sometimes it gets pretty confused. [01:15:53.000 --> 01:15:54.000] Okay. [01:15:54.000 --> 01:15:56.000] Anyway, we're back. [01:15:56.000 --> 01:15:58.000] And it seems you had a... [01:15:58.000 --> 01:15:59.000] You better watch out. [01:15:59.000 --> 01:16:00.000] She's going to tell your wife. [01:16:00.000 --> 01:16:01.000] I'm not confused. [01:16:01.000 --> 01:16:02.000] I think you are. [01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:04.000] There's a few that we've never had before. [01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:06.000] And sometimes you'll get those. [01:16:06.000 --> 01:16:07.000] We had Dr. Joe on. [01:16:07.000 --> 01:16:10.000] We had him on the guest bridge. [01:16:10.000 --> 01:16:12.000] And we had him on the caller bridge at the same time. [01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:14.000] And that's not supposed to happen. [01:16:14.000 --> 01:16:17.000] And so it kind of confused the last segment. [01:16:17.000 --> 01:16:19.000] We'll try to figure out what that is. [01:16:19.000 --> 01:16:21.000] Chris, can you hear us? [01:16:21.000 --> 01:16:23.000] Are you there? [01:16:25.000 --> 01:16:26.000] I can. [01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:27.000] Hello, Chris. [01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:31.000] I'm here. [01:16:31.000 --> 01:16:32.000] All right. [01:16:32.000 --> 01:16:33.000] He's there. [01:16:33.000 --> 01:16:35.000] Oh, good, good, good. [01:16:37.000 --> 01:16:39.000] Chris, I cannot hear you at all. [01:16:39.000 --> 01:16:42.000] Well, Chris, we never did get to your question. [01:16:42.000 --> 01:16:45.000] So what did you call it about? [01:16:45.000 --> 01:16:47.000] Let's go ahead and get there. [01:16:47.000 --> 01:16:50.000] Well, it's completely related to this woman's issue. [01:16:50.000 --> 01:16:51.000] Can you hear me now? [01:16:51.000 --> 01:16:52.000] I'm on a headpiece now. [01:16:52.000 --> 01:16:54.000] Yes, we hear you. [01:16:54.000 --> 01:16:58.000] You're soft, so if you'll talk a little slower, [01:16:59.000 --> 01:17:02.000] and I'm old, and it takes time for that stuff [01:17:02.000 --> 01:17:05.000] to move through my old, decrepit brain. [01:17:05.000 --> 01:17:09.000] Well, when I was about 14, [01:17:09.000 --> 01:17:14.000] so I'm curious, this nuanced stuff, [01:17:14.000 --> 01:17:18.000] I think we give these guys too much credit. [01:17:18.000 --> 01:17:20.000] That's the problem. [01:17:20.000 --> 01:17:24.000] We're coming at this with far too much intellectual, [01:17:24.000 --> 01:17:29.000] and we're taking it to a different level, [01:17:29.000 --> 01:17:33.000] and we're dealing with people who aren't that smart. [01:17:33.000 --> 01:17:35.000] It's not because they're not smart. [01:17:35.000 --> 01:17:38.000] It's because they've just allowed themselves to be ignorant, [01:17:38.000 --> 01:17:39.000] because they recognize it. [01:17:39.000 --> 01:17:43.000] When you point out their flaws, they get it instantly. [01:17:43.000 --> 01:17:46.000] Usually, I don't know, maybe I'm wrong. [01:17:46.000 --> 01:17:49.000] The fact that a cop, well, the cops aren't so smart [01:17:49.000 --> 01:17:52.000] a lot of the times, but the fact that a cop would write [01:17:53.000 --> 01:17:56.000] a ticket and go through the system thinking [01:17:56.000 --> 01:18:00.000] that's how you do it, without any element. [01:18:00.000 --> 01:18:04.000] I asked a sergeant to the police who arrested me, [01:18:04.000 --> 01:18:07.000] this is the day after, or two days after I was arrested, [01:18:07.000 --> 01:18:12.000] I said, do you even know the elements of a trespass? [01:18:12.000 --> 01:18:14.000] I don't think he's ever been asked that question before [01:18:14.000 --> 01:18:17.000] by a civilian, and all of a sudden, [01:18:17.000 --> 01:18:20.000] we're into this civil discussion, [01:18:20.000 --> 01:18:22.000] but he was really on point. [01:18:22.000 --> 01:18:26.000] He was really on edge, like, oh crap, I'm a sergeant, [01:18:26.000 --> 01:18:29.000] I sure as better know what I'm talking about. [01:18:29.000 --> 01:18:30.000] Right, yeah. [01:18:30.000 --> 01:18:32.000] And the last time he ever heard anything about elements [01:18:32.000 --> 01:18:35.000] was back in school. [01:18:35.000 --> 01:18:39.000] So we went through the first couple, which were obvious, [01:18:39.000 --> 01:18:41.000] and then I got to a third, which is like, [01:18:41.000 --> 01:18:44.000] I asked him, who's the injured party here? [01:18:44.000 --> 01:18:46.000] And he's like, I don't think that's part of the elements, [01:18:46.000 --> 01:18:47.000] and I'm like, oh, interesting. [01:18:47.000 --> 01:18:50.000] And then his next response is, well, [01:18:50.000 --> 01:18:53.000] you're just going to have to let the courts take care of it. [01:18:53.000 --> 01:18:55.000] That's their default. [01:18:55.000 --> 01:18:59.000] They really think the courts are what saves them. [01:18:59.000 --> 01:19:01.000] So I kind of figure out... [01:19:01.000 --> 01:19:04.000] Well, for the most part, that's true. [01:19:04.000 --> 01:19:08.000] Unfortunately, the checks and balances are gone [01:19:08.000 --> 01:19:14.000] in between the officer raging on the side of the road, [01:19:14.000 --> 01:19:17.000] not knowing what to write. [01:19:17.000 --> 01:19:19.000] The checks and balances between that [01:19:19.000 --> 01:19:24.000] and somebody getting dragged into the quicksands of court, [01:19:24.000 --> 01:19:28.000] those checks and balances are largely missing. [01:19:28.000 --> 01:19:29.000] Yeah. [01:19:29.000 --> 01:19:32.000] And then your next experience is with a DA [01:19:32.000 --> 01:19:35.000] who's literally 23 years old and fresh out of law school. [01:19:35.000 --> 01:19:37.000] I don't know if that's as young as they can get, [01:19:37.000 --> 01:19:38.000] but you know what I mean? [01:19:38.000 --> 01:19:40.000] Like, you're literally dealing with a teenager. [01:19:40.000 --> 01:19:42.000] That's what it feels like. [01:19:42.000 --> 01:19:45.000] And they don't know any more than the cop knows [01:19:45.000 --> 01:19:47.000] and probably knows less. [01:19:47.000 --> 01:19:50.000] And so now you're dealing with another idiot. [01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:54.000] And if you're a person like this woman, you're going, oh, my God, [01:19:54.000 --> 01:19:56.000] it just seems like it's coming down on you. [01:19:56.000 --> 01:19:59.000] But if you hold your own and realize you've probably got [01:19:59.000 --> 01:20:01.000] 20 points more on the IQ list than most of them, [01:20:01.000 --> 01:20:04.000] it's pretty crazy. [01:20:04.000 --> 01:20:08.000] But I was scared, too, because I only had a misdemeanor, [01:20:08.000 --> 01:20:09.000] but I'm like, wait a second. [01:20:09.000 --> 01:20:12.000] I'm actually going to get a criminal record for doing nothing? [01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:15.000] You know, that was the biggest hit for me. [01:20:15.000 --> 01:20:17.000] Yeah, it's disturbing. [01:20:17.000 --> 01:20:19.000] You're innocent, and you know you're innocent, [01:20:19.000 --> 01:20:24.000] but all of a sudden this stuff is happening as if you're a criminal. [01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:30.000] And then I get a public defender, and she's maybe two years older [01:20:30.000 --> 01:20:33.000] than the DA who was fresh out of law school, [01:20:33.000 --> 01:20:36.000] and she's literally giving me a sales pitch. [01:20:36.000 --> 01:20:38.000] And I'm like, you've got to be kidding me. [01:20:38.000 --> 01:20:41.000] This girl has absolutely no idea what she's doing. [01:20:41.000 --> 01:20:43.000] And she's got to put on a show. [01:20:43.000 --> 01:20:45.000] A sales pitch like what? [01:20:45.000 --> 01:20:47.000] Like trying to sell you on a plea bargain? [01:20:47.000 --> 01:20:50.000] Well, like here's how it's going to go down, [01:20:50.000 --> 01:20:53.000] and I'm going to do this for you, and we're going to work this angle, [01:20:53.000 --> 01:20:56.000] but like you said, I'm going to be taken through the mill. [01:20:56.000 --> 01:20:58.000] They're going to kick the can. [01:20:58.000 --> 01:21:00.000] She was going to kick the can. [01:21:00.000 --> 01:21:03.000] Well, I told her there was a motion to dismiss [01:21:03.000 --> 01:21:05.000] for insufficient charging instruments. [01:21:05.000 --> 01:21:06.000] She should read it. [01:21:06.000 --> 01:21:09.000] The next time I met with her, she had a whole different tone, [01:21:09.000 --> 01:21:12.000] and her only words were, that was really well done. [01:21:12.000 --> 01:21:14.000] I said, okay. [01:21:14.000 --> 01:21:18.000] I said, copy it and put your name on it and put it through the courts. [01:21:18.000 --> 01:21:20.000] She says, I've got to put my own stuff on it. [01:21:20.000 --> 01:21:23.000] I said, I don't care what you do, please do that. [01:21:23.000 --> 01:21:26.000] And then she disappears. [01:21:26.000 --> 01:21:27.000] She's sick. [01:21:27.000 --> 01:21:30.000] She's talking to me online on the phone here and there. [01:21:30.000 --> 01:21:35.000] And I get to the court, and they knew they were going to dismiss it. [01:21:35.000 --> 01:21:38.000] They waited to the last minute, and maybe they didn't. [01:21:38.000 --> 01:21:41.000] Before it gets to the judge, I'm brought before the judge, [01:21:41.000 --> 01:21:43.000] all of a sudden there's a motion to dismiss. [01:21:43.000 --> 01:21:44.000] Nobody knew about this. [01:21:44.000 --> 01:21:47.000] They never told my... [01:21:47.000 --> 01:21:49.000] So it's just a circus. [01:21:49.000 --> 01:21:53.000] They're literally faking it, and we're supposed to stand there like, [01:21:53.000 --> 01:21:55.000] oh, this is how it's done. [01:21:55.000 --> 01:21:58.000] And we're supposed to foot the bill. [01:21:58.000 --> 01:22:02.000] Exactly, and waste our time, and give them respect on top of that. [01:22:02.000 --> 01:22:04.000] They almost demand it. [01:22:04.000 --> 01:22:07.000] So I'm trying to see this threshold. [01:22:07.000 --> 01:22:12.000] Obviously there's a layer where some amount of competence comes into play. [01:22:12.000 --> 01:22:14.000] Now, I never got to touch it firsthand, [01:22:14.000 --> 01:22:18.000] but when my document actually got to a real DA, [01:22:18.000 --> 01:22:22.000] he or she looked at it and said, get this out of my office. [01:22:22.000 --> 01:22:23.000] That's probably the language. [01:22:23.000 --> 01:22:24.000] Motion dismissed. [01:22:24.000 --> 01:22:27.000] He tells his lower minions to do that. [01:22:27.000 --> 01:22:31.000] And then we get to a real judge, and she's the no-nonsense. [01:22:31.000 --> 01:22:32.000] She would tell people... [01:22:32.000 --> 01:22:35.000] I was only there for a couple hours, but she would tell... [01:22:35.000 --> 01:22:37.000] You got all the convicts coming through, too. [01:22:37.000 --> 01:22:43.000] And she would make them say what they did when they were admitting to guilt. [01:22:43.000 --> 01:22:46.000] Because they would change the story, and they would know I did this, [01:22:46.000 --> 01:22:47.000] and what did you do? [01:22:47.000 --> 01:22:49.000] And she would totally hold them to it. [01:22:49.000 --> 01:22:50.000] I was like, damn, this was cool. [01:22:50.000 --> 01:22:51.000] Yeah. [01:22:51.000 --> 01:22:54.000] And then I get to the front, and she says... [01:22:54.000 --> 01:22:56.000] They say, what's the position, DA? [01:22:56.000 --> 01:22:58.000] We're going to move to dismiss, Your Honor. [01:22:58.000 --> 01:22:59.000] And she says... [01:22:59.000 --> 01:23:00.000] She looked at me. She smiled. [01:23:00.000 --> 01:23:03.000] She says, have a nice day, and walked out. [01:23:03.000 --> 01:23:04.000] And it's just like... [01:23:04.000 --> 01:23:06.000] It was a real education. [01:23:06.000 --> 01:23:09.000] And first of all, you have no idea what they're doing. [01:23:09.000 --> 01:23:10.000] We're caught up in it. [01:23:10.000 --> 01:23:13.000] But if you have legitimate claims and you really stand by it, [01:23:13.000 --> 01:23:17.000] there's a good chance somebody's going to correct it at some point. [01:23:17.000 --> 01:23:21.000] But, oh, my God, you know? [01:23:21.000 --> 01:23:24.000] Yeah, the hassle to get to that point, right? [01:23:24.000 --> 01:23:25.000] Yeah. [01:23:25.000 --> 01:23:26.000] If you don't read... [01:23:26.000 --> 01:23:28.000] Like you guys said, go home and read the whole code. [01:23:28.000 --> 01:23:29.000] And I did. [01:23:29.000 --> 01:23:32.000] I read the whole criminal code like in a weekend of that section. [01:23:32.000 --> 01:23:34.000] I learned all the elements, and I called like four or five lawyers, [01:23:34.000 --> 01:23:37.000] and I got their spin on it, and I had this whole language down, [01:23:37.000 --> 01:23:40.000] and everybody agreed they have no case. [01:23:40.000 --> 01:23:44.000] But please pay me $2,500, and I'll get it thrown away, you know? [01:23:44.000 --> 01:23:49.000] Yeah. [01:23:49.000 --> 01:23:53.000] Yeah, they don't want you to know that they don't know, [01:23:53.000 --> 01:23:55.000] that they're faking it. [01:23:55.000 --> 01:23:58.000] And how do you beat that? [01:23:58.000 --> 01:24:01.000] How do you clean up a mess that is so messy [01:24:01.000 --> 01:24:03.000] that it's going to take an entire bulldozer [01:24:03.000 --> 01:24:05.000] and new people coming in a new way? [01:24:05.000 --> 01:24:07.000] You know, it's really messy. [01:24:07.000 --> 01:24:09.000] It is. You're right. [01:24:09.000 --> 01:24:15.000] The point is, it's not enough to win your case. [01:24:15.000 --> 01:24:18.000] If they have acted in properly, [01:24:18.000 --> 01:24:23.000] you need to come back on them like a buzzsaw. [01:24:23.000 --> 01:24:32.000] So 99% of the people, 99.6% of the people will just pay the fine. 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[01:27:20.000 --> 01:27:24.000] Some things in this world I will never understand [01:27:24.000 --> 01:27:28.000] Some things I realize fully [01:27:28.000 --> 01:27:33.000] Somebody's on a police, a policeman [01:27:33.000 --> 01:27:37.000] Somebody's on a police, a bully [01:27:37.000 --> 01:27:42.000] There's always a room at the top of the hill [01:27:42.000 --> 01:27:46.000] I hear things are great, fine, and it's lonely there still [01:27:46.000 --> 01:27:50.000] They're wishing it was more than opposition that fails [01:27:50.000 --> 01:27:54.000] They know that if they don't do it, somebody will [01:27:54.000 --> 01:27:58.000] Some things in this world I will never understand [01:27:58.000 --> 01:28:02.000] Some things I realize fully [01:28:02.000 --> 01:28:06.000] Somebody's on a police, a policeman [01:28:06.000 --> 01:28:10.000] Somebody's on a police, a bully [01:28:10.000 --> 01:28:14.000] I know they will [01:28:14.000 --> 01:28:18.000] Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio, [01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:22.000] and we're talking to Chris in Colorado. Okay, Chris, [01:28:22.000 --> 01:28:26.000] we had a really interesting break. [01:28:26.000 --> 01:28:30.000] Deborah beat me up unmercifully. [01:28:30.000 --> 01:28:34.000] Everybody out there to feel sorry for me. [01:28:34.000 --> 01:28:38.000] Where we were, as we went out, we were talking about the need to go back after them. [01:28:38.000 --> 01:28:42.000] And that's exactly what I told this lady. [01:28:42.000 --> 01:28:46.000] Like a chicken on a June bug. [01:28:46.000 --> 01:28:50.000] Correct me if I'm wrong, at least at this lower level stuff, [01:28:50.000 --> 01:28:54.000] because there's such a pain in the neck, [01:28:54.000 --> 01:28:58.000] it almost seems like the only way through it is to be a bigger pain in the neck. [01:28:58.000 --> 01:29:02.000] Exactly. Whether it comes natural to you or not doesn't matter. [01:29:02.000 --> 01:29:06.000] Summon your inner pain in the neck [01:29:06.000 --> 01:29:10.000] and make it happen. [01:29:10.000 --> 01:29:14.000] You are a citizen in a republic. [01:29:14.000 --> 01:29:18.000] Everybody answers to you. [01:29:18.000 --> 01:29:22.000] And once we [01:29:22.000 --> 01:29:26.000] craft that understanding, [01:29:26.000 --> 01:29:30.000] we don't apologize to anyone. [01:29:30.000 --> 01:29:34.000] Yeah, and it's not like, you don't want to go around and just be that way to everybody. [01:29:34.000 --> 01:29:38.000] But when they're breaking the law, [01:29:38.000 --> 01:29:42.000] in the name of the law, [01:29:42.000 --> 01:29:46.000] you're perfectly within your rights to feel indignant [01:29:46.000 --> 01:29:50.000] and, you know, bring the spanking [01:29:50.000 --> 01:29:54.000] that's needed. [01:29:54.000 --> 01:29:58.000] I mean, you guys, both of you, [01:29:58.000 --> 01:30:02.000] I've never seen you in action, actually. [01:30:02.000 --> 01:30:06.000] There's a learning curve [01:30:06.000 --> 01:30:10.000] to the grace of it where you don't get caught up in the emotion of it. [01:30:10.000 --> 01:30:14.000] And I've come a long way in the past couple years, because I used to get really upset. [01:30:14.000 --> 01:30:18.000] Now I can walk into like a grocery store and have a just slight business across the counter, [01:30:18.000 --> 01:30:22.000] and I've got somebody who just wants to buy something, [01:30:22.000 --> 01:30:26.000] and I've got somebody who just wants to unload all their stuff on me, [01:30:26.000 --> 01:30:30.000] and they're not doing it to me. They don't realize I'm not walking away with whatever they're trying to unload on me. [01:30:30.000 --> 01:30:34.000] And that's what a lot of these people in the courts are. They're miserable, [01:30:34.000 --> 01:30:38.000] they've got their own little personal emotional family dramas, and they're looking for [01:30:38.000 --> 01:30:42.000] a whooping post in a lot of the cases. And if you can hold your own, [01:30:42.000 --> 01:30:46.000] it just gets them even more riled up, and they eventually [01:30:46.000 --> 01:30:50.000] do something inappropriate, you know? [01:30:50.000 --> 01:30:54.000] I don't like these mind games, but [01:30:54.000 --> 01:30:58.000] this is unfortunately a lot of what our world is about. It's a lot of mind games. [01:30:58.000 --> 01:31:02.000] And if you can spin some of the law back on them, it's even better. [01:31:02.000 --> 01:31:06.000] It's very fulfilling. [01:31:06.000 --> 01:31:10.000] But what do we do about the bigger stuff? [01:31:10.000 --> 01:31:14.000] I'm not going to talk about that tonight, but it's this other stuff [01:31:14.000 --> 01:31:18.000] when the mind games get really, really big, and that just seems to be [01:31:18.000 --> 01:31:22.000] where some of the judges are at. [01:31:22.000 --> 01:31:26.000] But for this lady, I love the chicken analogy. [01:31:26.000 --> 01:31:30.000] She just needs to start practicing pecking at them. [01:31:30.000 --> 01:31:34.000] And they can't peck back. That's the fun thing, right? [01:31:34.000 --> 01:31:38.000] They're not allowed to peck back. So she can go after them. [01:31:38.000 --> 01:31:42.000] I mean, if she's got some help, just pick apart their [01:31:42.000 --> 01:31:46.000] stupid charge. Like, where are the grounds for this? [01:31:46.000 --> 01:31:50.000] Where are the elements for it, you know? And get her public defender, [01:31:50.000 --> 01:31:54.000] hold the defender just to the millstone, you know what I mean? [01:31:54.000 --> 01:31:58.000] Yeah, now that she's got a new public defender that [01:31:58.000 --> 01:32:02.000] they've been kicking the can so much that there's probably no [01:32:02.000 --> 01:32:06.000] body cams or dash cams available anymore. But now at least [01:32:06.000 --> 01:32:10.000] she's got a public defender that has a bar card. [01:32:10.000 --> 01:32:14.000] And I would ask her, I would have her walk in and just her little tests, her first [01:32:14.000 --> 01:32:18.000] test is ask that person, just double checking, do you have a bar card? [01:32:18.000 --> 01:32:22.000] Make them say it. [01:32:22.000 --> 01:32:26.000] But isn't destroying the body cam [01:32:26.000 --> 01:32:30.000] and all that, isn't that a spoilation possibly? Aren't they supposed to have it for a [01:32:30.000 --> 01:32:34.000] period of time? [01:32:34.000 --> 01:32:38.000] They are required to keep it under two conditions. [01:32:38.000 --> 01:32:42.000] Like Randy mentioned earlier, if the defendant [01:32:42.000 --> 01:32:46.000] asks for it, whether it's by [01:32:46.000 --> 01:32:50.000] records request, which I recommend be the same day, [01:32:50.000 --> 01:32:54.000] or if it's by discovery request [01:32:54.000 --> 01:32:58.000] after somebody gets it in their head that a [01:32:58.000 --> 01:33:02.000] court case exists. That's not the same day, usually that happens [01:33:02.000 --> 01:33:06.000] within a few days. Now the [01:33:06.000 --> 01:33:10.000] police agency, the courts, they start imagining [01:33:10.000 --> 01:33:14.000] that a court case exists just because you got pulled over, [01:33:14.000 --> 01:33:18.000] has nothing to do with due process of law, but they [01:33:18.000 --> 01:33:22.000] will begin to pretend that a court case exists, and from that point on [01:33:22.000 --> 01:33:26.000] they won't answer records requests. [01:33:26.000 --> 01:33:30.000] So you've got to get it through discovery, as if there were a case. [01:33:30.000 --> 01:33:34.000] So you need the third party [01:33:34.000 --> 01:33:38.000] to request those records. Well yes, that has its [01:33:38.000 --> 01:33:42.000] pros and cons. If I request records for that lady, they're going to [01:33:42.000 --> 01:33:46.000] redact it all to heck. They'll be chopped up [01:33:46.000 --> 01:33:50.000] because they're trying to protect her personal [01:33:50.000 --> 01:33:54.000] sensitive information. And that's reasonable. [01:33:54.000 --> 01:33:58.000] Because I'm not her, and they don't know, you know, [01:33:58.000 --> 01:34:02.000] they're trying to protect her personal information. So if it has anything [01:34:02.000 --> 01:34:06.000] about her name, her address, anything on there, then they cut it out. [01:34:06.000 --> 01:34:10.000] For her benefit. But if she requests it, they can't cut [01:34:10.000 --> 01:34:14.000] anything. So if I request it, [01:34:14.000 --> 01:34:18.000] and they cut stuff, and she requests it, [01:34:18.000 --> 01:34:22.000] and it turns out they cut stuff they should not have cut, [01:34:22.000 --> 01:34:26.000] they got a problem. Well that's true. [01:34:26.000 --> 01:34:30.000] Then you would have cause to go to the, generally it's the attorney general. [01:34:30.000 --> 01:34:34.000] It seems like the public records get [01:34:34.000 --> 01:34:38.000] rolled up to an attorney general for the state. [01:34:38.000 --> 01:34:42.000] The point of this is, a third party interloper, [01:34:42.000 --> 01:34:46.000] that is their worst nightmare. [01:34:46.000 --> 01:34:50.000] Someone who does not have a dog in the hunt [01:34:50.000 --> 01:34:54.000] can come in there and stomp all over them, [01:34:54.000 --> 01:34:58.000] and they have to dance around on their tippy toes. [01:34:58.000 --> 01:35:02.000] If they delete anything, they're going to have to [01:35:02.000 --> 01:35:06.000] show precisely, especially if they delete something [01:35:06.000 --> 01:35:10.000] that I as a third party interloper wants, [01:35:10.000 --> 01:35:14.000] and the litigant has a right to, [01:35:14.000 --> 01:35:18.000] then I can see both of them. [01:35:18.000 --> 01:35:22.000] And if they deleted something from me that they shouldn't have, [01:35:22.000 --> 01:35:26.000] then I have a shot at them. That's what we want them to think. [01:35:26.000 --> 01:35:30.000] That I'm a sharpshooter. But the thing is, [01:35:30.000 --> 01:35:34.000] you've got data retention policies. [01:35:34.000 --> 01:35:38.000] There's a schedule, and it's different for different agencies. [01:35:38.000 --> 01:35:42.000] So they can claim that, you know, hey, after [01:35:42.000 --> 01:35:46.000] 14 days, we just don't have enough disk space. We rotate. Everything rotates after [01:35:46.000 --> 01:35:50.000] 14 days. And if nobody has asked for it, we've got all [01:35:50.000 --> 01:35:54.000] fresh new body cam footage keeps coming in, and we can't store everything more than [01:35:54.000 --> 01:35:58.000] 14 days. That's our capacity. You know, we're trying to get more taxes [01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:02.000] to pay for more disk storage, but that's all we've got right now. 14 days. [01:36:02.000 --> 01:36:06.000] And if you don't ask for it within that time period, whatever their data retention [01:36:06.000 --> 01:36:10.000] schedule says, it gets deleted. And then you [01:36:10.000 --> 01:36:14.000] can't call them out for spoliation because [01:36:14.000 --> 01:36:18.000] you didn't ask for it in time. Nobody asked. And so it's [01:36:18.000 --> 01:36:22.000] gone. And now they're presumed innocent because [01:36:22.000 --> 01:36:26.000] all of the evidence of their guilt just got [01:36:26.000 --> 01:36:30.000] deleted. So ask early. [01:36:30.000 --> 01:36:34.000] So question about that. I asked pretty early. I asked within [01:36:34.000 --> 01:36:38.000] a couple days, but I called a lawyer's office [01:36:38.000 --> 01:36:42.000] thinking that this would be a great case, right? Well, it turns out most of these [01:36:42.000 --> 01:36:46.000] civil rights attorneys, at least in Colorado, only want million dollar cases. [01:36:46.000 --> 01:36:50.000] So since mine isn't multi, you know, over a million bucks, they won't. They just said, sorry. [01:36:50.000 --> 01:36:54.000] Only 700,000? Shoot. That's not even going to pay [01:36:54.000 --> 01:36:58.000] for my next yacht. Yeah, exactly. But even 150 grand. Here's [01:36:58.000 --> 01:37:02.000] the thing I don't get. This is a slight tangent. No lawyer like that [01:37:02.000 --> 01:37:06.000] will take a case for 150,000, but a personal injury case, a lawyer will [01:37:06.000 --> 01:37:10.000] take it for 50 grand. Why? Because they're going to settle your case out of court and take [01:37:10.000 --> 01:37:14.000] 33% of your 50 grand. That's how that works. [01:37:14.000 --> 01:37:18.000] So it's just ridiculous. But anyway, [01:37:18.000 --> 01:37:22.000] I asked for the information pretty quickly. Then I called one of the [01:37:22.000 --> 01:37:26.000] civil rights attorneys here, and they requested the body cam. [01:37:26.000 --> 01:37:30.000] So they got it. They paid for it, whatever. But I kept [01:37:30.000 --> 01:37:34.000] asking for my own, and finally I got a public defender, and they never gave it to me. [01:37:34.000 --> 01:37:38.000] They gave it to the public defender, which I never got to see. I never [01:37:38.000 --> 01:37:42.000] got a copy of it. So I've never seen until recently [01:37:42.000 --> 01:37:46.000] my body cam footage, my own. Wow. [01:37:46.000 --> 01:37:50.000] And it's only because I sued the cops, and now we went through discovery and they had to hand [01:37:50.000 --> 01:37:54.000] all that over. [01:37:54.000 --> 01:37:58.000] But I don't even know what to think about all that type of spin. [01:37:58.000 --> 01:38:02.000] I called the dispatch or the police office, and she says, [01:38:02.000 --> 01:38:06.000] I have to give it to your public defender. And I didn't know [01:38:06.000 --> 01:38:10.000] the rules. I don't even know if that is a rule. [01:38:10.000 --> 01:38:14.000] Well, if you have an attorney, then they will give it to your attorney. That's true. [01:38:14.000 --> 01:38:18.000] And it depends, state to state. You have to go look at what does it actually [01:38:18.000 --> 01:38:22.000] say, because in Texas, well, let me tell you the misunderstanding [01:38:22.000 --> 01:38:26.000] in Texas, and then I'll tell you what the rule actually says, the statute says, [01:38:26.000 --> 01:38:30.000] it's treated as if the statute says [01:38:30.000 --> 01:38:34.000] that the defendant cannot have a copy [01:38:34.000 --> 01:38:38.000] of the video. They act like the defendant is allowed [01:38:38.000 --> 01:38:42.000] to go to the lawyer's office and watch the video, but never have a copy. [01:38:42.000 --> 01:38:46.000] But the statute actually says, if [01:38:46.000 --> 01:38:50.000] the court orders viewing [01:38:50.000 --> 01:38:54.000] that the defendant may view it, then the defendant may only view it, not have a copy. [01:38:54.000 --> 01:38:58.000] But if the court doesn't order [01:38:58.000 --> 01:39:02.000] anything, then there's no restriction. They don't treat it like that. [01:39:02.000 --> 01:39:06.000] So in your state, they may have some similar rule, and maybe it gets [01:39:06.000 --> 01:39:10.000] similarly mistreated. Who knows? You've got to go and check and see what does it say. [01:39:10.000 --> 01:39:14.000] We're down to the end of this [01:39:14.000 --> 01:39:18.000] two hours. [01:39:18.000 --> 01:39:22.000] Yeah, I'm really glad you called in, Chris. [01:39:22.000 --> 01:39:26.000] I look forward to seeing what else you have, a lot of other things [01:39:26.000 --> 01:39:30.000] going on, and I'm looking forward to seeing about those, too. [01:39:30.000 --> 01:39:34.000] If you have a chance to call in tomorrow night, maybe we can hear some more of that. [01:39:34.000 --> 01:39:38.000] You guys party too hard. I can't stay up that late with you. [01:39:38.000 --> 01:39:42.000] Alright. [01:39:42.000 --> 01:39:46.000] Well, thanks again for calling, and thanks everybody for listening.