[00:00.000 --> 00:07.000]  let's get going
[00:30.000 --> 00:32.000]  Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[00:32.000 --> 00:34.000]  Bad boys, bad boys
[00:34.000 --> 00:35.000]  Whatcha gonna do?
[00:35.000 --> 00:37.000]  Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[00:37.000 --> 00:40.000]  When you were eight and you had bad traits
[00:40.000 --> 00:43.000]  You go to school and learn the golden rule
[00:43.000 --> 00:46.000]  So why are you acting like a bloody fool?
[00:46.000 --> 00:48.000]  If you get hot then you must get cool
[00:48.000 --> 00:50.000]  Bad boys, bad boys
[00:50.000 --> 00:51.000]  Whatcha gonna do?
[00:51.000 --> 00:53.000]  Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[00:53.000 --> 00:55.000]  Bad boys, bad boys
[00:55.000 --> 00:56.000]  Whatcha gonna do?
[00:56.000 --> 00:59.000]  Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[00:59.000 --> 01:00.000]  You chuck it on that one
[01:00.000 --> 01:02.000]  You chuck it on this one
[01:02.000 --> 01:03.000]  You chuck it on your mother
[01:03.000 --> 01:04.000]  And you chuck it on your father
[01:04.000 --> 01:06.000]  You chuck it on your brother
[01:06.000 --> 01:07.000]  And you chuck it on your sister
[01:07.000 --> 01:08.000]  You chuck it on that one
[01:08.000 --> 01:10.000]  And you chuck it on me
[01:10.000 --> 01:11.000]  Bad boys, bad boys
[01:11.000 --> 01:12.000]  Whatcha gonna do?
[01:12.000 --> 01:15.000]  Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[01:15.000 --> 01:17.000]  Bad boys, bad boys
[01:17.000 --> 01:18.000]  Whatcha gonna do?
[01:18.000 --> 01:21.000]  Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[01:21.000 --> 01:22.000]  Bad boys, bad boys
[01:22.000 --> 01:23.000]  Whatcha gonna do?
[01:23.000 --> 01:26.000]  Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[01:26.000 --> 01:28.000]  Bad boys, bad boys
[01:28.000 --> 01:32.000]  Whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[01:32.000 --> 01:37.000]  Nobody now give you no break. Police now give you no break.
[01:37.000 --> 01:43.000]  That old soldier man now give you no break. Not even your agent now give you no breaks.
[01:43.000 --> 01:48.000]  Bad boys, bad boys. Whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[01:48.000 --> 01:54.000]  Bad boys, bad boys. Whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[01:54.000 --> 01:59.000]  Bad boys, bad boys. Whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[01:59.000 --> 02:06.000]  Bad boys, bad boys. Whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[02:25.000 --> 02:32.000]  Why did you have to act so mean? Don't you know you're a human being?
[02:32.000 --> 02:37.000]  Born of a mother with a lover for father. Reflection comes and reflection goes.
[02:37.000 --> 02:48.000]  I know sometimes you wanna let go. Hey, hey, hey. I know sometimes you wanna let go.
[02:48.000 --> 02:54.000]  Bad boys, bad boys. Whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[02:54.000 --> 02:56.000]  Bad boys, bad boys.
[03:19.000 --> 03:25.000]  Yeah, 512-646-1984.
[03:25.000 --> 03:28.000]  I was gonna say that, but I forgot.
[03:28.000 --> 03:32.000]  Well, you got a lot on your mind.
[03:32.000 --> 03:33.000]  Yeah, an empty lot.
[03:33.000 --> 03:36.000]  A lot of things going on. An empty lot.
[03:36.000 --> 03:49.000]  Yeah, I do. I went and checked the mailbox, and I don't have the green cards back from the complaints I sent to the grand juries.
[03:49.000 --> 03:53.000]  Well, tell me exactly how surprised you were about that.
[03:53.000 --> 03:59.000]  Oh, I was just devastated. I was just giddy with anticipation.
[03:59.000 --> 04:03.000]  I'm kinda surprised I didn't get the green card back.
[04:03.000 --> 04:14.000]  I don't expect to get the letter back from the grand jury that I asked him to initial and return, but I expected the green card.
[04:17.000 --> 04:25.000]  It appears as though they may be refusing to sign for it, but we'll find out. I'll get after the post office and have them chase these things down.
[04:25.000 --> 04:31.000]  Yeah, I'm sure that inspector would be happy to stomp around a little bit.
[04:31.000 --> 04:36.000]  I look forward to sickening the postal inspectors on him.
[04:36.000 --> 04:46.000]  Well, so when that comes back, this is something I've never seen, not only have not seen anyone do.
[04:46.000 --> 04:56.000]  All of the people in the Patriot community complaining about these judges acting improperly.
[04:57.000 --> 05:05.000]  I've never heard anyone say, well, we ought to take them on criminally because their behavior is criminal.
[05:05.000 --> 05:10.000]  They call them criminals, but nobody goes after them.
[05:10.000 --> 05:23.000]  So this should be an interesting argument. I claim that Judge Pittman was handling the workload for three judges.
[05:23.000 --> 05:36.000]  And I understand that he's busy. He's got more work than he can possibly do. However, in this case, we did not file pro se. We paid for it.
[05:36.000 --> 05:39.000]  Using the informal paupers.
[05:39.000 --> 05:48.000]  Paupers. See that one? Anyway, oh yeah, it said pro se. We didn't file informal paupers. We paid for it.
[05:48.000 --> 06:00.000]  And we paid for services. I expect those services to be properly rendered. I don't care how busy the judge is.
[06:00.000 --> 06:08.000]  Well, are you depending on your right or your privilege to petition the courts for redressal grievances?
[06:08.000 --> 06:18.000]  Absolutely. My right to do that and my duty to do it. I don't want him doing this to everybody else.
[06:18.000 --> 06:30.000]  And since I am a citizen in this Republic, this is my job. Not only that, I swore on my oath I'd do this thing.
[06:31.000 --> 06:38.000]  And I've found an enemy. It's domestic and the fight's on, doing my job.
[06:38.000 --> 06:53.000]  So when the judge gets my case, I expect the judge to properly apply the law to the facts. I don't care how busy he is. If he doesn't have enough help, hire someone.
[06:53.000 --> 07:10.000]  So, and in the Court of Appeals, who are they just to dismiss a 150 page criminal complaint that outlines improper procedures with specificity and particularity?
[07:10.000 --> 07:35.000]  And just say, this case is forever, let's dismiss it. I consider that criminal and I consider that part of an ongoing criminal enterprise designed and intended to deny pro se litigants in the course of the laws of the United States.
[07:35.000 --> 07:45.000]  Yeah. So how are you going to show that that's not an isolated incident, but instead it's a pattern and practice? How are you going to show that?
[07:45.000 --> 08:00.000]  I will pull cases. I'll pull cases, just go down the case, pull all the pro se cases. I'll pull the case. If I get to discovery, I'll make them produce it.
[08:00.000 --> 08:12.000]  If I go down there and try to find pro se cases, that's difficult. So I'll get them to produce it under discovery and then I will analyze their case law.
[08:12.000 --> 08:26.000]  Where the magistrate judge, they have extra magistrate judges. They go in there and they produce this case law and dismiss your case out of hand every time.
[08:26.000 --> 08:36.000]  Who recommended the court to dismiss your case? Well, I'll show that their case law is trash. It's just made up garbage.
[08:37.000 --> 08:38.000]  Yeah.
[08:38.000 --> 08:59.000]  This is not an act of properly applying the law to the facts, which they're commanded to do, Walker v. Packer. And then in this case, I don't expect to have to do that. I expect the FBI to do that.
[08:59.000 --> 09:01.000]  Why would the FBI do that?
[09:01.000 --> 09:06.000]  It's their job. This is not a job.
[09:06.000 --> 09:12.000]  So you're going to give them a criminal complaint and invoke their duty to act on it, right?
[09:12.000 --> 09:24.000]  Exactly. This is not a civil action. This is criminal. I gave them notice of crime and I expect them to enforce the law. And I don't care what their opinion on the matter is.
[09:25.000 --> 09:33.000]  See how this works out. It is an interesting approach.
[09:33.000 --> 09:50.000]  And I'll eventually sue them as judges for in their personal capacity. First, I fully expect the FBI to not want to get in a fight with the courts.
[09:50.000 --> 09:55.000]  Because they want the courts to rule in their favor.
[09:55.000 --> 10:04.000]  Well, I don't care what they want. I don't care what is adjudicatively expedient for them.
[10:04.000 --> 10:14.000]  If this is difficult for them, tell me the military. It's easy, do it easy. If it's hard, do it hard. Get it done.
[10:14.000 --> 10:22.000]  I don't want to hear any excuses. Just get it done. And I'm going to expect local U.S. attorneys to get it done.
[10:22.000 --> 10:38.000]  Take my complaints, contact the new federal agents that are being sent out into the states to chase down crime, chase down crime by judges.
[10:38.000 --> 10:53.000]  See what they do. It would be interesting to get Cash Patel's take on his claim to be here to enforce law.
[10:53.000 --> 11:00.000]  Or do you only enforce law when it's politically expedient?
[11:00.000 --> 11:10.000]  He's shown that he's willing to take these guys on even when it's not politically expedient. Took on the Russiagate issue.
[11:10.000 --> 11:20.000]  It was not politically expedient. It's taking great risks with his career. Appreciate that.
[11:21.000 --> 11:31.000]  Is it really that risky? I mean, with his career, because you talk about plausible deniability or you talk about that they have an excuse.
[11:31.000 --> 11:35.000]  Well, he has no discretion. He has to do this.
[11:35.000 --> 11:47.000]  I'm saying before he got, became director of the FBI, he took these guys on. And that was, yeah, that was dangerous to his career, but he did it anyway.
[11:47.000 --> 11:56.000]  So, fortunately for him, Trump won. He'd have been toast. He'd been out on his ear.
[11:56.000 --> 12:09.000]  So he picked the right side. Now, more hard stuff for you to do. You took the top job. You're the one that gets the hard jobs.
[12:09.000 --> 12:19.000]  But I think if I do this right, I can convince them that it is in their interest to open the grand juries to the public.
[12:21.000 --> 12:29.000]  Because if somebody's pulling shenanigans, somebody in the public knows about it.
[12:29.000 --> 12:35.000]  But if he works for the agency or is associated with the agency, somebody knows about it.
[12:35.000 --> 12:41.000]  We opened this grand jury as the backboard to the legal system it was intended to be.
[12:42.000 --> 12:50.000]  And these people can take their knowledge to the grand jury and then step away. They can do this anonymously.
[12:52.000 --> 12:55.000]  Have a place to give this notice.
[12:57.000 --> 13:03.000]  I think with what they're doing, this fits precisely with their agenda.
[13:06.000 --> 13:09.000]  Guess we'll see. Okay.
[13:09.000 --> 13:10.000]  Certainly hope so.
[13:10.000 --> 13:14.000]  I have Chris in Colorado. Okay, Chris.
[13:17.000 --> 13:20.000]  What were we working on yesterday?
[13:20.000 --> 13:22.000]  You're going to make me go first?
[13:22.000 --> 13:26.000]  Oh, absolutely. You're the only one off, right?
[13:27.000 --> 13:34.000]  Okay. I put together all the sequences of the laws we need to defend.
[13:35.000 --> 13:38.000]  Time's up. We gave you your opportunity.
[13:39.000 --> 13:42.000]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Brutal Law Radio.
[13:43.000 --> 13:45.000]  I can't see the clock, Brett.
[13:46.000 --> 13:48.000]  That's why you're doing it 15 seconds early.
[13:50.000 --> 13:53.000]  Yeah, Chris. Yeah, he gave you your chance, right?
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[16:19.000 --> 16:47.000]  We are back and we're talking to Chris in Colorado. Okay, Chris, where were we? We dropped you off last night.
[16:47.000 --> 17:00.000]  We were working on the parallel for Bring Me Forward Magistrate, and I found it, and also I found the law on arrest.
[17:00.000 --> 17:29.000]  So, excellent. The Colorado, this is, I'm a little confused, Brad, because last night you tripped me up with these, the statute, I understand what a statute is, but the Colorado Rules of Criminal Procedure state that if a peace officer or any officer person makes an arrest, either with or without a warrant, the arrested person shall be taken without unnecessary delay before the nearest available county or district court.
[17:29.000 --> 17:45.000]  Excellent. With or without a warrant? Yes. Texas says it in two separate statutes, so this one rolls it nicely into one sentence. Very cool.
[17:45.000 --> 18:05.000]  Now, that's the rules of criminal procedure, but the statute, a peace officer may, okay, this is where it gets, this is where this whole thing is kind of a conundrum. I think it's so complicated that even the lawyers don't know how this really works, but they're trying to imply that they know how it works.
[18:06.000 --> 18:25.000]  Colorado revised statute 163103 says a peace officer may stop any person who he reasonably suspects is committing, has committed, or is about to commit a crime, and may require him to give his name and address, identification available, and explain of his actions. So that's a may, that's not he must.
[18:25.000 --> 18:33.000]  Yeah, a peace officer shall not require any person who is, who is stopped pursuant to this section to produce or divulge such personal social security number, okay.
[18:36.000 --> 18:41.000]  The stopping shall not constitute, the stop, here's what, here's what, the stopping shall not, shall not constitute an arrest.
[18:42.000 --> 19:03.000]  When a peace officer, yeah, it just gets better, right? When a peace officer stopped a person for questioning pursuant to this section and reasonably suspects that his personal safety is required, okay, he may conduct a pat-down, all right, so this is where it just gets so stupid.
[19:03.000 --> 19:20.000]  They're, they had reasonable suspicion, they're not saying they had probable cause, they're not saying that anywhere in their responses or anything, they said they had, they're being very careful to say they had reasonable suspicion that I was committing a crime, and all they wanted to do was run my ID to find out if I had committed a crime.
[19:21.000 --> 19:35.000]  Okay, when and where in reality does that work? You either know somebody's committed a crime or you go after them, you know, it's just, it's kind of like, in my opinion, on or off, you can't just go fishing.
[19:35.000 --> 19:36.000]  Right.
[19:36.000 --> 19:37.000]  See if you can get them.
[19:37.000 --> 19:38.000]  Exactly.
[19:38.000 --> 19:39.000]  Okay.
[19:39.000 --> 19:45.000]  And see if you can compel somebody to give evidence against themselves and then accuse them of that as a crime.
[19:45.000 --> 19:46.000]  No.
[19:46.000 --> 20:03.000]  So, they kept harping, you need to give me an ID, I need your ID, and I'm like, okay, I'll give it to you, but I'm giving it to your supervisor, and that wasn't good enough for him, that I wasn't complying immediately with him, so I called 911, and of course the arrest happens, all right.
[20:03.000 --> 20:09.000]  So, now I'm under arrest, but for what?
[20:09.000 --> 20:17.000]  I'm under arrest, I'm handcuffed, I'm in the back of the cruiser, and nobody says, by the way, you're under arrest for this, this, or whatever, because you didn't do it, you didn't, whatever.
[20:17.000 --> 20:28.000]  But the sergeant said, on body cam, I have the body cam too, I recorded the phone call, but I also have it on body cam, because I said, officer, I said, sergeant, I'm really confused, what went on?
[20:28.000 --> 20:29.000]  Was I under arrest or not?
[20:29.000 --> 20:34.000]  No, he said, he said, clearly, you were under arrest, to be clear, you are under arrest.
[20:34.000 --> 20:35.000]  Okay.
[20:35.000 --> 20:51.000]  So, they arrested me, but then did not bring me before the court, and because I gave my name, then they released me on a misdemeanor summons, and a summons and complaint promised to appear.
[20:51.000 --> 20:54.000]  And with the accusation of what crime?
[20:54.000 --> 20:57.000]  Like, what are you supposed to stand and answer for?
[20:57.000 --> 21:01.000]  Right, that's when they started making stuff up, and they apply.
[21:01.000 --> 21:02.000]  Yeah.
[21:02.000 --> 21:15.000]  Is there a crime in Colorado that says that you need to show the ID to the officer within 45 seconds, and you're not allowed to say, I want to show it to the supervisor, that's a crime?
[21:15.000 --> 21:21.000]  Where are there facts that lead to the essential elements of something they are going to actually accuse you of?
[21:21.000 --> 21:26.000]  But that's the issue, they never accuse me of failure to ID.
[21:26.000 --> 21:29.000]  So, well, what are you supposedly going to court for?
[21:29.000 --> 21:33.000]  They want to drag you into the quicksands of court to stand and answer for what?
[21:33.000 --> 21:34.000]  Exactly.
[21:34.000 --> 21:45.000]  That's when they stuck in third degree trespass, but they knew they had to do that because the paramedics were called, I was arrested, four cruisers were there, all their buddies, I mean, it was a mess.
[21:45.000 --> 21:50.000]  So, they had to do something, but they admitted all they were going to do was give me a warning.
[21:50.000 --> 22:01.000]  Okay, so if you were just going to give me a warning, and then when you found out that I didn't have any trespass, any probability of a trespass or any reason for trespass, you still trespass me.
[22:01.000 --> 22:16.000]  Like, it's just, none of this makes any sense, and then they think that they can now hold this up, that I was trespassing, even though the DA looked at it finally and said, no, there's nothing here, we're not even going forward with this.
[22:17.000 --> 22:28.000]  So, I guess my question, one of my questions, I want to get back to the DA because I want to set the judge up, is how can you arrest somebody and then back it off?
[22:28.000 --> 22:33.000]  Like, you can't, like, haven't you already rung that bell, haven't you already crossed that line?
[22:33.000 --> 22:35.000]  Exactly.
[22:35.000 --> 22:36.000]  Okay.
[22:36.000 --> 22:43.000]  Yeah, as soon as your restraint, your liberty was restrained, that's arrest.
[22:43.000 --> 22:57.000]  That might not be full custodial arrest, or they can make different categories of it and say, oh, this was only a minor severity of it, which we call a detention or whatever, but you were restricted in your liberty.
[22:57.000 --> 23:06.000]  And at that point, if there was not a lawful reason for that restraint on your liberty, then it's unlawful restraint.
[23:07.000 --> 23:21.000]  Okay, so this is, and I have said that with GPT and sometimes it just does some crazy stuff and then sometimes it's really on point, but it basically came up this logic.
[23:21.000 --> 23:27.000]  If they arrested you for failure to ID, then they needed a lawful independent reason to detain you first.
[23:27.000 --> 23:33.000]  If that reason was trespassing, why did they need your ID to establish it?
[23:33.000 --> 23:35.000]  I agree.
[23:35.000 --> 23:44.000]  Yeah, I mean, it just, they either had it or they didn't, and they went fishing and they tried to get me to self-incriminate.
[23:44.000 --> 23:46.000]  Okay, so this is where we get to the DA.
[23:46.000 --> 23:59.000]  Now we have this first appearance stuff for misdemeanors and petty offenses where they funnel us all in as cattle, and most people don't know that they don't have to go to that without, they can request an attorney with them.
[24:00.000 --> 24:06.000]  And if you do that, then you don't have to go because the attorney now represents you and you don't have to speak to the DA.
[24:06.000 --> 24:09.000]  All right, so they don't tell anybody this.
[24:09.000 --> 24:12.000]  So we show up, we're forced to meet with the DA.
[24:12.000 --> 24:16.000]  He then coerces you to give a guilty plea and a plea deal.
[24:16.000 --> 24:27.000]  Now he's also supposed to, from what I understand, consider information and facts and exculpatory evidence, et cetera, which he absolutely refused to do.
[24:27.000 --> 24:34.000]  So basically what he did, he's probably fresh, I'm pretty sure he's fresh out of school, probably his first quarter out of law school.
[24:34.000 --> 24:35.000]  Oh, wow.
[24:35.000 --> 24:37.000]  Good time for a bar grievance, huh?
[24:37.000 --> 24:39.000]  Yeah, he was pretty young.
[24:39.000 --> 24:51.000]  But he read the title, Third Degree Trespass, and I think that's about all he read and said, okay, I'm going to give the guy 12 months community service.
[24:51.000 --> 24:53.000]  And I'm like, yeah, no, not an option.
[24:53.000 --> 24:54.000]  You should read this.
[24:54.000 --> 25:02.000]  This is a motion to dismiss insufficient charging instrument, and there's all kinds of evidence there you might want to see this is going into the record.
[25:02.000 --> 25:03.000]  No, I'm not looking at it.
[25:03.000 --> 25:06.000]  Gets up and walks out.
[25:06.000 --> 25:14.000]  Then he now takes the role of a judicial officer, walks over to another clerk of some sort who's sitting by the computer and says, no deal.
[25:14.000 --> 25:19.000]  And I'm now summoned to the preliminary hearing, and there's no judicial oversight.
[25:19.000 --> 25:23.000]  All right, so this is a big problem.
[25:23.000 --> 25:26.000]  I put all this, I put most of this in my complaint.
[25:26.000 --> 25:29.000]  And I don't know how this works.
[25:29.000 --> 25:39.000]  Maybe you guys do, but I spoke to the pro se clinic today, and they were thinking there was like an attorney assistant that may have prompted some of these things.
[25:39.000 --> 25:43.000]  But they're saying this falls under prosecutorial immunity.
[25:43.000 --> 25:45.000]  And here's another thing that's really weird.
[25:45.000 --> 25:48.000]  I filed five cases so far in my life.
[25:48.000 --> 25:53.000]  Not a single time was I ever told to use the pro se form for a complaint.
[25:53.000 --> 26:06.000]  And this time they have a well-structured complaint, and they're wanting me to dial it back and now fill in the blank of a pro se form from the court.
[26:06.000 --> 26:13.000]  So I don't know what they're doing or what's going on, but they're blanket doing the prosecutorial immunity.
[26:13.000 --> 26:18.000]  And they're wanting me to act like a pro se litigant who's filing his first case from prison with France.
[26:18.000 --> 26:22.000]  Like, it's really strange.
[26:22.000 --> 26:25.000]  So do I have to do that?
[26:25.000 --> 26:27.000]  First of all, what do you guys think?
[26:27.000 --> 26:29.000]  What do they do if you just tell them no?
[26:29.000 --> 26:31.000]  Yeah, that's what I would do.
[26:31.000 --> 26:33.000]  And they call me in to meet with the prosecutor.
[26:33.000 --> 26:39.000]  I tell them I do not talk to persecuting attorneys.
[26:39.000 --> 26:44.000]  Ever tried to force me to.
[26:44.000 --> 26:53.000]  I just go in there and I start to talk with them and then I get their name and then I say, wait a second, you're not the judge.
[26:53.000 --> 27:01.000]  And I get all offended and up in arms about how they were impersonating a judicial officer.
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[30:13.000 --> 30:19.000]  Yeah, I got a warrant and I'm going to solve them.
[30:19.000 --> 30:24.000]  To the head of government then prosecute them.
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[30:27.000 --> 30:30.000]  All set.
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[30:40.000 --> 30:45.000]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio, and we're talking to Chris in Colorado.
[30:45.000 --> 30:58.000]  Chris, whenever I have to go down for a ticket, they always send me to talk to the prosecutor and I always tell them I don't talk to persecuting attorneys.
[30:58.000 --> 31:06.000]  Sometimes they kind of stumble around a little bit, but they have never tried to force me to talk to a prosecutor.
[31:06.000 --> 31:19.000]  If you wanted to bargrieve them or do a criminal complaint because they're impersonating a judicial officer, you have to find out their name to do that.
[31:19.000 --> 31:35.000]  You may be able to just ask, but you also might be able to get in front of them, look them in the eye, and then after five seconds or so, then you suddenly have an epiphany and realize that you're not the judge.
[31:35.000 --> 31:37.000]  You're just impersonating the judge.
[31:37.000 --> 31:38.000]  Oh my goodness.
[31:38.000 --> 31:40.000]  And then you pull out your criminal complaint.
[31:40.000 --> 31:44.000]  Well, fill in their name.
[31:44.000 --> 31:49.000]  But either way, just know that you don't have to talk to them.
[31:49.000 --> 31:50.000]  That's what we're getting at.
[31:50.000 --> 31:53.000]  That's the main thing.
[31:53.000 --> 31:58.000]  And as for the form, they want you to fill out this form.
[31:58.000 --> 32:06.000]  What I do when they say things like that is, oh, ma'am, are you giving me legal advice?
[32:06.000 --> 32:07.000]  Well, no, this is the judge.
[32:07.000 --> 32:20.000]  So I filed the case against the police and I got an order back from this judge, initials RTG, and he said, okay, you need to speak.
[32:20.000 --> 32:22.000]  We need more details, basically.
[32:22.000 --> 32:27.000]  You need to say exactly what each police officer did and what manner and how to say, you know, that type of thing.
[32:27.000 --> 32:28.000]  Okay. So I broke it down more.
[32:28.000 --> 32:29.000]  Okay.
[32:29.000 --> 32:32.000]  And then and then he gets this next complaint.
[32:32.000 --> 32:36.000]  It went from eight pages to like 18 pages, you know, and I and I dialed off.
[32:36.000 --> 32:40.000]  I took the city off because now I'm going to I'm going to do them.
[32:40.000 --> 32:44.000]  Once I do discovery, I'm going to find out all the training and who caused all this.
[32:44.000 --> 32:46.000]  And the city will probably come in.
[32:46.000 --> 32:49.000]  So I wanted to crack the door open with the police.
[32:49.000 --> 32:51.000]  And now I'm in the suits going forward.
[32:51.000 --> 32:54.000]  And so that's a civil suit, though, right?
[32:54.000 --> 32:55.000]  Right.
[32:55.000 --> 32:56.000]  And we're going to pull.
[32:56.000 --> 32:59.000]  Yeah. So then my second my second civil suit, though, was against the D.A.
[32:59.000 --> 33:08.000]  And I want to get to the D.A.'s office because I want to take down or get some some case law on this first appearance nonsense.
[33:08.000 --> 33:09.000]  What we're talking about.
[33:09.000 --> 33:15.000]  So I filed a suit with with the federal court for for civil rights violations.
[33:15.000 --> 33:25.000]  And the same judge, R.T.G., gives me an order to state that I didn't base it basically saying that I didn't I didn't plead clearly enough that the D.A.
[33:25.000 --> 33:29.000]  violated prosecutorial immunity protections.
[33:29.000 --> 33:32.000]  OK, so he was.
[33:32.000 --> 33:41.000]  But he's also quoting case law now, which I guess sometimes they do in these orders, but he like went through he mentioned a couple of cases.
[33:41.000 --> 33:48.000]  And he's he's harping on this is prosecutorial protect immunity that falls under prosecutorial actions basically.
[33:48.000 --> 33:51.000]  And I'm like, OK, are we disputing this case already?
[33:51.000 --> 33:56.000]  So I want to put him on the dime because I now get an amended complaint.
[33:56.000 --> 34:02.000]  And I need to back him into a corner where he says, oh, yeah, this is protected.
[34:02.000 --> 34:07.000]  This is protected the prosecutorial actions or know it or get a case is going forward.
[34:07.000 --> 34:09.000]  That that's where I'm up against.
[34:10.000 --> 34:17.000]  Well, you have to allege that the actions he took were not within scope.
[34:17.000 --> 34:20.000]  They were not part of any prosecutorial job.
[34:20.000 --> 34:22.000]  He was that's this is not something a prosecutor does.
[34:22.000 --> 34:29.000]  This is a crime. Crimes are objectively unreasonable.
[34:29.000 --> 34:32.000]  This is not something that could be considered reasonable.
[34:32.000 --> 34:34.000]  They cannot be construed to be in scope.
[34:34.000 --> 34:36.000]  It's a crime.
[34:36.000 --> 34:39.000]  Keep in mind who he is.
[34:39.000 --> 34:41.000]  Is a lawyer hired by the state?
[34:43.000 --> 34:48.000]  If I'm a litigant case to litigants.
[34:49.000 --> 34:51.000]  I deal with the litigant.
[34:51.000 --> 34:54.000]  I deal with the state.
[34:54.000 --> 34:56.000]  Well, the states hired a lawyer.
[34:56.000 --> 34:58.000]  Well, let somebody talk to lawyer.
[34:58.000 --> 34:59.000]  You will talk to your lawyer.
[34:59.000 --> 35:01.000]  He's your lawyer is not my lawyer.
[35:06.000 --> 35:07.000]  That's right.
[35:11.000 --> 35:14.000]  And I'm not talking to any lawyers ever again, unless the judge orders me to.
[35:14.000 --> 35:16.000]  That's the only time I talk to them.
[35:16.000 --> 35:20.000]  And it's usually through emails, unless we're absolutely have to confer on something verbally.
[35:20.000 --> 35:22.000]  I don't do that anymore.
[35:22.000 --> 35:23.000]  Good.
[35:23.000 --> 35:29.000]  Yeah, because they want to be buddy, buddy, so they can set you up and and feel you out.
[35:29.000 --> 35:31.000]  And they want to know if you have a law degree.
[35:31.000 --> 35:33.000]  They want to know.
[35:33.000 --> 35:35.000]  You notice that.
[35:35.000 --> 35:36.000]  Yeah, right.
[35:36.000 --> 35:38.000]  They want to know to what degree.
[35:38.000 --> 35:40.000]  And what am I up against?
[35:40.000 --> 35:44.000]  And I don't care anymore.
[35:44.000 --> 35:46.000]  I've had it used against me only at once.
[35:46.000 --> 35:49.000]  But, you know, it's enough to learn that these people, they're not nice people.
[35:49.000 --> 35:50.000]  They're part of a club.
[35:50.000 --> 35:51.000]  We're not part of that club.
[35:51.000 --> 35:52.000]  And they're not my friends.
[35:52.000 --> 35:55.000]  So anyway, no sense in talking to people like that.
[35:55.000 --> 35:56.000]  Right.
[35:56.000 --> 35:57.000]  But very good.
[35:57.000 --> 35:58.000]  Took me twice to learn that.
[35:59.000 --> 36:05.000]  So you're double as quick as I am on that regard.
[36:05.000 --> 36:12.000]  Well, when you have a federal judges breathing down your throat and they're clearly on the side of the other side.
[36:12.000 --> 36:14.000]  Yeah, you learn pretty quick.
[36:14.000 --> 36:23.000]  Anyway, so I guess what I'm trying to do here is find some really, really juicy stuff.
[36:23.000 --> 36:25.000]  That's why I was talking about Brady last night.
[36:25.000 --> 36:27.000]  Like, I agree with you, Brett.
[36:27.000 --> 36:31.000]  None of this is constitutional, but it's been allowed.
[36:31.000 --> 36:34.000]  That's why the judge is saying, well, he was just carrying out prosecution.
[36:34.000 --> 36:38.000]  The prosecution started when the police officer wrote the ticket.
[36:38.000 --> 36:40.000]  And this is a misdemeanor.
[36:40.000 --> 36:43.000]  Therefore, the DA was just carrying out his duty.
[36:43.000 --> 36:46.000]  And I made a point, well, he never even read the pleadings.
[36:46.000 --> 36:53.000]  He never even read, because if he did, he would have tossed it like the next DA who read it and said, we don't have a claim against this guy.
[36:53.000 --> 36:55.000]  We're tossing the case before the preliminary hearing.
[36:55.000 --> 36:56.000]  And I mentioned all that.
[36:56.000 --> 36:59.000]  And I mentioned that he prolonged it for the absolute last minute.
[36:59.000 --> 37:02.000]  And he just and the judge is just like, this is prosecutorial immunity.
[37:02.000 --> 37:10.000]  So he wants me either to get really, really down to the dime because he knows that I'm going to have a hard time with this against the whole system.
[37:10.000 --> 37:14.000]  Or, you know, he's obviously backing his buddies.
[37:14.000 --> 37:16.000]  So that's why I came up with Brady.
[37:16.000 --> 37:23.000]  Like this guy completely objected and ignored exculpatory evidence.
[37:23.000 --> 37:26.000]  Yeah, that's one thing that you can harp on.
[37:26.000 --> 37:29.000]  As you can't really say, I mean, it makes sense, common sense.
[37:29.000 --> 37:33.000]  Everybody would understand if you say he didn't even read the pleadings.
[37:33.000 --> 37:41.000]  But there's not something that says he has a duty to read the pleadings before he whatever does something else.
[37:41.000 --> 37:45.000]  So harp on the things where you can see clearly that he has a duty.
[37:45.000 --> 37:47.000]  Like you mentioned that about exculpatory evidence.
[37:47.000 --> 37:50.000]  That's one of them.
[37:50.000 --> 37:58.000]  And you might you might find some other little juicy phrases of in his duties, the things that he's supposed to do.
[37:58.000 --> 38:07.000]  Well, one of the things that's outside the scope is to make that judicial decision that he made.
[38:07.000 --> 38:13.000]  He took it upon himself to find probable cause.
[38:13.000 --> 38:18.000]  And that's not within his scope.
[38:18.000 --> 38:21.000]  So a prosecutor can do that.
[38:21.000 --> 38:25.000]  And I think there's some there's some case law got listed here that states that, too.
[38:25.000 --> 38:32.000]  I haven't I haven't vetted some of these cases that came up, but they're they're they're in that in that wheelhouse.
[38:32.000 --> 38:38.000]  As far as you can't just do stuff like and courts have ruled explicitly on that.
[38:38.000 --> 38:44.000]  So OK, so he acted as a judicial officer and they're going to say, no, he was just doing a prosecutorial action.
[38:44.000 --> 38:46.000]  Well, no, there was no judicial oversight.
[38:46.000 --> 38:53.000]  And he took on, like you said, probable cause determination to get me to the preliminary hearing.
[38:53.000 --> 39:01.000]  Now, the third thing he did, which again in court in Colorado were allowed to record, even though they say no recording, were allowed to the law says we can.
[39:01.000 --> 39:03.000]  Doesn't matter if it's a court or not, we're allowed to.
[39:03.000 --> 39:08.000]  So I did. And he actually gave me legal advice.
[39:08.000 --> 39:12.000]  That actually benefited him, not me.
[39:12.000 --> 39:16.000]  And so he told me that I would not be filing that document today.
[39:16.000 --> 39:20.000]  It would be after probably after the preliminary hearing, which was another month and a half down the road.
[39:20.000 --> 39:28.000]  That was not only a lie, but it was biased in favor of him and the prosecutor's office.
[39:28.000 --> 39:37.000]  So I've got that on record. I don't know how I can phrase that, but that was wholly improper.
[39:37.000 --> 39:42.000]  Hmm. Yeah, it's a lie.
[39:42.000 --> 39:54.000]  You might. He didn't say that to a judge, so you can't really say he spoke without candor to the court.
[39:54.000 --> 40:08.000]  You could do a bar grievance and say that he was he was attempt attempting attempting to obtain a waiver of your important rights.
[40:08.000 --> 40:15.000]  The important rights of a how do they put it on the unrepresented accused?
[40:15.000 --> 40:18.000]  That's our grievance material right there.
[40:18.000 --> 40:20.000]  But what about what about the court?
[40:20.000 --> 40:30.000]  The fact if I if I didn't file that document that had the evidence in there showing that the police acted improper and there was no case, then I would not have any evidence before the court.
[40:30.000 --> 40:37.000]  I would have got before the preliminary hearing and they would have taken the prosecutor or the prosecutor's statement.
[40:37.000 --> 40:40.000]  OK, that's not for probable cause.
[40:40.000 --> 40:43.000]  Well, it's true that he lied and he tried to trick you.
[40:43.000 --> 40:45.000]  But you went ahead and did it.
[40:45.000 --> 40:51.000]  You filed it. You got it on the record and he was unsuccessful in his attempt to defraud you.
[40:51.000 --> 40:52.000]  So you could go after fraud.
[40:52.000 --> 40:56.000]  But let's talk about that a little bit more on the other side.
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[43:26.000 --> 43:28.000]  Okay, we are back.
[43:28.000 --> 43:29.000]  We're back.
[43:29.000 --> 43:32.000]  Indy Kelton, Brett Fountain, ruleoflawradio.
[43:32.000 --> 43:34.000]  And talking to Chris in Colorado.
[43:34.000 --> 43:36.000]  Calling lines are open.
[43:36.000 --> 43:38.000]  We have room on the call board.
[43:38.000 --> 43:43.000]  Call in number 512-646-1984.
[43:43.000 --> 43:50.000]  And Chris, I have a problem with this whole idea of what you're doing.
[43:50.000 --> 43:56.000]  He's a lawyer for the state.
[43:56.000 --> 44:00.000]  How did they get you to the prosecutor?
[44:00.000 --> 44:05.000]  Did they imply or assert that you had to talk to the prosecutor?
[44:05.000 --> 44:07.000]  Yes.
[44:07.000 --> 44:10.000]  Said you had to talk to the prosecutor.
[44:10.000 --> 44:16.000]  Well, again, it's all innuendo, but it's okay.
[44:16.000 --> 44:18.000]  It's kind of like what they're doing right now.
[44:18.000 --> 44:27.000]  They're trying to say that they only cited me for trespassing, and they're trying to admit the fact that they ripped me out of the car, threw me face down on the ground, handcuffed me, and arrested me, put me back in the cruiser.
[44:27.000 --> 44:28.000]  Never read me my rights.
[44:28.000 --> 44:29.000]  Okay.
[44:29.000 --> 44:33.000]  They were trying to be very careful that the arrest language didn't happen.
[44:33.000 --> 44:36.000]  So the courts do the same thing.
[44:36.000 --> 44:38.000]  You may have consequences.
[44:38.000 --> 44:40.000]  Let me pull up the text, actually.
[44:40.000 --> 44:41.000]  I can read it to you.
[44:41.000 --> 44:43.000]  We'll have it on my phone.
[44:43.000 --> 44:52.000]  You have a court appearance.
[44:52.000 --> 44:53.000]  Okay.
[44:53.000 --> 45:00.000]  A court date is scheduled for case, blah, blah, blah, on the first one was 1130.
[45:00.000 --> 45:06.000]  And I got that on November 30th.
[45:06.000 --> 45:07.000]  Oh, wait.
[45:07.000 --> 45:08.000]  No, I got that a week earlier.
[45:08.000 --> 45:10.000]  Okay.
[45:10.000 --> 45:23.000]  So on November 23rd, I got a text saying a court date is scheduled for case on 1130 at 8 o'clock a.m. in Division First FAC, which is First Appearance Center, at the El Paso County Combined Courts.
[45:23.000 --> 45:30.000]  Unless expressly authorized by a judicial officer, your presence in the courtroom is required.
[45:30.000 --> 45:33.000]  Who gave you that?
[45:33.000 --> 45:35.000]  Good question.
[45:35.000 --> 45:36.000]  Shoot it.
[45:36.000 --> 45:43.000]  It showed up on my phone.
[45:43.000 --> 45:46.000]  Have you checked the court record?
[45:46.000 --> 45:51.000]  See if there's a court order.
[45:51.000 --> 45:53.000]  From what I heard, there's nothing ordering me to court.
[45:53.000 --> 45:56.000]  It's just honest summons and complain.
[45:56.000 --> 46:00.000]  You know, when you get a traffic ticket, they always have a date for the next available court date.
[46:00.000 --> 46:01.000]  They were all funneled in.
[46:01.000 --> 46:04.000]  That was the same thing for this one.
[46:04.000 --> 46:12.000]  So when you got the ticket said, appear on this date at this time?
[46:12.000 --> 46:13.000]  Yeah, roughly.
[46:13.000 --> 46:15.000]  I think that's what it said.
[46:15.000 --> 46:22.000]  This was November the 30th?
[46:22.000 --> 46:25.000]  Yeah, of 2022, November 2022.
[46:25.000 --> 46:28.000]  But up until a week before, there was no court case.
[46:28.000 --> 46:30.000]  So this was the first?
[46:30.000 --> 46:38.000]  No, no, no, wait, when you got the citation, did the citation tell you appear on this particular day?
[46:38.000 --> 46:42.000]  Yes.
[46:42.000 --> 46:47.000]  So they gave you a second notice?
[46:47.000 --> 46:50.000]  No, I was shaking too much so I couldn't sign it.
[46:50.000 --> 46:55.000]  So they took some ink and took my finger and fingerprinted it.
[46:55.000 --> 46:58.000]  And then that was my promise to appear.
[46:58.000 --> 47:01.000]  You're being unclear.
[47:01.000 --> 47:06.000]  You're saying you got a notice to appear a week before hearing date.
[47:06.000 --> 47:16.000]  You're saying the notice to appear was on the ticket telling you to appear on the 30th.
[47:16.000 --> 47:23.000]  Right, so when we got the ticket like normally, you're promising to appear at this date.
[47:23.000 --> 47:26.000]  So they have it pre-stamped or pre-written.
[47:26.000 --> 47:31.000]  So the ticket already told you to appear on the 30th?
[47:31.000 --> 47:33.000]  I think so, yes.
[47:33.000 --> 47:38.000]  So they just sent you an extra notice, a reminder?
[47:38.000 --> 47:43.000]  Right, but there was no court, there was no case up until the 23rd.
[47:43.000 --> 47:51.000]  So again, so when I talked to Brett, I talked to Brett the day after I got arrested.
[47:51.000 --> 47:56.000]  And I immediately went down there to say, okay, what's been filed?
[47:56.000 --> 47:58.000]  What's the charges against me?
[47:58.000 --> 47:59.000]  What's going on?
[47:59.000 --> 48:00.000]  Is there a case?
[48:00.000 --> 48:01.000]  And there's just no case.
[48:01.000 --> 48:05.000]  There's just this lingering ticket that's going to be filed at some point.
[48:05.000 --> 48:08.000]  And I've had them not be filed in the past.
[48:08.000 --> 48:14.000]  It goes back to Gerstein Pugh, required to take you before magistrate.
[48:14.000 --> 48:20.000]  You read the code that said there to take you to the court.
[48:20.000 --> 48:25.000]  I'd order you to come to court month or so later.
[48:25.000 --> 48:31.000]  And that first hearing has to be a determination of probable cause.
[48:31.000 --> 48:39.000]  Have you looked at force of documentation?
[48:39.000 --> 48:40.000]  Let me explain.
[48:40.000 --> 48:46.000]  In Texas, Eastman, he hasn't made known to him that a crime has been committed.
[48:46.000 --> 48:56.000]  He shall give notice to some magistrate to Section 12C.
[48:56.000 --> 48:59.000]  So he has noticed that a crime's been committed.
[48:59.000 --> 49:03.000]  He sees you commit a crime or somebody tells you we committed a crime.
[49:03.000 --> 49:05.000]  Give notice to some magistrate.
[49:05.000 --> 49:14.000]  If he arrests someone, it's to take them directly to the nearest magistrate and give notice to that magistrate.
[49:14.000 --> 49:30.000]  In Texas, and I suspect it's the same in Colorado, a peace officer has no power to arrest someone for the purpose of taking them to jail.
[49:30.000 --> 49:36.000]  Peace officer may arrest someone for one reason and one reason only.
[49:36.000 --> 49:41.000]  That is to take to the nearest magistrate.
[49:41.000 --> 49:48.000]  Purpose of the preliminary hearing is to start the jurisdictional process.
[49:48.000 --> 49:58.000]  Officer has jurisdiction to arrest for an on-site offense or on the issuance of a warrant.
[49:58.000 --> 50:06.000]  But he only has authority to arrest for the purpose of taking you to the nearest magistrate.
[50:06.000 --> 50:12.000]  The magistrate is to examine into the sufficiency of the allegation.
[50:12.000 --> 50:19.000]  And then if he finds probable cause, he can authorize the policeman to take you to jail.
[50:19.000 --> 50:21.000]  If you're on bond or whatever.
[50:21.000 --> 50:29.000]  Then the magistrate takes his finding of probable cause and forwards it to the clerk of the jurisdiction.
[50:29.000 --> 50:33.000]  That's how jurisdiction moves.
[50:33.000 --> 50:43.000]  So out that preliminary hearing, they're doing like Texas does and they're ignoring the preliminary.
[50:43.000 --> 50:47.000]  That is really, really a big deal.
[50:47.000 --> 50:49.000]  Yeah, it's huge.
[50:49.000 --> 50:54.000]  Policemen can arrest you for any reason.
[50:54.000 --> 51:00.000]  Just like they did here, they acted ignorant because they can do anything they want to.
[51:00.000 --> 51:08.000]  And nobody ever look at their reasons for arresting you, simply don't care.
[51:08.000 --> 51:15.000]  Once you get into the system, they will run their routine on you and get you to make a deal.
[51:15.000 --> 51:16.000]  Yeah.
[51:16.000 --> 51:24.000]  So it leaves the people feeling as though they're horribly outgunned, and they are.
[51:24.000 --> 51:30.000]  This thing of taking you before a magistrate is really a big deal.
[51:30.000 --> 51:31.000]  Didn't do that.
[51:31.000 --> 51:40.000]  Texas, 1406, rest without a warrant or on-site offense, take you directly to the nearest magistrate.
[51:40.000 --> 51:44.000]  1616, rest on an existing warrant.
[51:44.000 --> 51:51.000]  Any warrant you see in Texas, and I guarantee it'll be the same in Colorado.
[51:51.000 --> 52:01.000]  Pull up any warrant out of the records and it will say, arrest this person and bring him before me.
[52:01.000 --> 52:06.000]  He being magistrate who issued the warrant.
[52:06.000 --> 52:07.000]  They all say that.
[52:07.000 --> 52:12.000]  Does not say arrest this person, throw his butt in jail.
[52:12.000 --> 52:25.000]  Because even if it's a warrant, must be taken to a magistrate and the magistrate gives the state jurisdiction to continue to hold on a finding of probable cause.
[52:25.000 --> 52:29.000]  It's not one in your case.
[52:29.000 --> 52:35.000]  You've read the law, said that when they arrest someone, they're to take him to the nearest magistrate.
[52:35.000 --> 52:37.000]  Take him to the court.
[52:37.000 --> 52:43.000]  That makes it false imprisonment and for false imprisonment.
[52:43.000 --> 52:47.000]  That's the one thing the state waives immunity for.
[52:47.000 --> 52:53.000]  Every state immunity to imprisonment.
[52:53.000 --> 52:55.000]  Well, remember, Randy, two things here.
[52:55.000 --> 52:58.000]  I was arrested, but they didn't take me to jail.
[52:58.000 --> 53:00.000]  They left me in the parking lot.
[53:00.000 --> 53:02.000]  They uncuffed me and just gave me a ticket.
[53:02.000 --> 53:14.000]  The summons and complaints, yes, required me that says it requires me to come to the next court date, which is November 30th, but it does not say to meet with the DA.
[53:14.000 --> 53:17.000]  It just says you're required to be at the court.
[53:17.000 --> 53:27.000]  The only reason to court first appearance for determination.
[53:27.000 --> 53:31.000]  For determination preliminary hearing.
[53:31.000 --> 53:32.000]  Yeah, that's it.
[53:32.000 --> 53:33.000]  Exactly.
[53:33.000 --> 53:39.000]  Probable cause determination, which the prosecutor is not authorized by law to do.
[53:39.000 --> 53:40.000]  Right.
[53:40.000 --> 53:44.000]  I went to a hearing in South Lake, Texas.
[53:44.000 --> 53:46.000]  A friend of mine had a trucking company.
[53:46.000 --> 53:56.000]  He had a construction company and his trucks that he used to haul materials with did not fall under the transportation code.
[53:56.000 --> 53:58.000]  And these guys knew it.
[53:58.000 --> 54:02.000]  And so I went down there with him and there were 58 people there.
[54:02.000 --> 54:05.000]  There was no judge in the building.
[54:05.000 --> 54:09.000]  They were all sent in and talked to talk to this prosecutor.
[54:09.000 --> 54:11.000]  58 of them.
[54:11.000 --> 54:15.000]  It was her first day as a prosecutor.
[54:15.000 --> 54:21.000]  I filed 58 felony complaints against her.
[54:21.000 --> 54:26.000]  Justice is peace.
[54:26.000 --> 54:34.000]  Welcome to the deep end of the pool or impersonating a judicial officer.
[54:34.000 --> 54:37.000]  Convening a public hearing.
[54:37.000 --> 54:42.000]  These people had been some.
[54:42.000 --> 54:43.000]  He's there.
[54:43.000 --> 54:49.000]  If they summon you to this hearing, it's not a judge there.
[54:49.000 --> 54:53.000]  I suggest you do not talk to prosecutors.
[54:53.000 --> 54:56.000]  If you want me to know something, prosecutor, you write it down.
[54:56.000 --> 54:59.000]  I'm not going to come in here and be threatened.
[54:59.000 --> 55:04.000]  Last time I filed criminal complaints, I was with Dr. Joe and I wouldn't show me some records.
[55:04.000 --> 55:09.000]  So I called 911 and police department was in the same building.
[55:09.000 --> 55:13.000]  This cop come over and said, we don't need to do this here.
[55:13.000 --> 55:15.000]  We need to step into my office.
[55:15.000 --> 55:20.000]  I said, no, that's not going to happen.
[55:20.000 --> 55:23.000]  We're going to do this right here.
[55:23.000 --> 55:29.000]  You're not going to get me back in that office and pump up on me and make all kind of lies about what you said I did.
[55:29.000 --> 55:31.000]  Oh, we wouldn't do that.
[55:31.000 --> 55:33.000]  Of course you wouldn't do that.
[55:33.000 --> 55:36.000]  Jackass.
[55:36.000 --> 55:39.000]  Been there, done that.
[55:39.000 --> 55:40.000]  So we don't talk to them.
[55:40.000 --> 55:42.000]  I don't talk to the prosecutors.
[55:42.000 --> 55:44.000]  Want me to know something?
[55:44.000 --> 55:45.000]  Write it down.
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[56:59.000 --> 57:04.000]  The Bill of Rights contains the first 10 amendments of our Constitution.
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[57:08.000 --> 57:09.000]  Our liberty depends on it.
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[57:18.000 --> 57:21.000]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[57:21.000 --> 57:26.000]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[57:26.000 --> 57:31.000]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
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[57:54.000 --> 58:00.000]  That shocking image of a third party in my parents' bed reminds me what the Third Amendment was designed to prevent.
[58:00.000 --> 58:03.000]  It protects us from being forced to share our homes with soldiers,
[58:03.000 --> 58:06.000]  a common demand in the days of our founding fathers.
[58:06.000 --> 58:08.000]  Third party, Third Amendment? Get it?
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[58:12.000 --> 58:16.000]  tell them to dust off their copy of the Bill of Rights and reread the Third Amendment.
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[58:23.000 --> 58:28.000]  The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution.
[58:28.000 --> 58:32.000]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[58:32.000 --> 58:34.000]  Our liberty depends on it.
[58:34.000 --> 58:37.000]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way
[58:37.000 --> 58:40.000]  to remember one of your constitutional rights.
[58:40.000 --> 58:42.000]  Privacy is under attack.
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[59:25.000 --> 59:27.000]  from unreasonable search and seizure.
[59:27.000 --> 59:30.000]  Fourth Amendment? Four eyes staring at you? Get it?
[59:30.000 --> 59:33.000]  Unfortunately, the government is trampling our Fourth Amendment rights
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[01:01:17.000 --> 01:01:24.000]  So, we are back in Kelton French Fountain on this Friday,
[01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:30.000]  seventh day, March 2025, and we're talking to Chris.
[01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:36.000]  Chris, I'm having a problem with the whole thing.
[01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:44.000]  The policeman had authority to arrest you based on his belief that a crime's been committed.
[01:01:44.000 --> 01:01:50.000]  Only for the purpose, taking you to a magistrate and getting a determination.
[01:01:50.000 --> 01:01:58.000]  That requirement has been in law, not in state's law, since 1215 AD.
[01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:03.000]  Started out in British law and was picked up by the U.S.
[01:02:03.000 --> 01:02:12.000]  He became a country, and we eventually incorporated the requirement into our statutory law.
[01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:22.000]  Every state's this way, but prosecutors and the police, that's not really convenient for them.
[01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:30.000]  And for the most part, nobody complained about it, so they made all these adjustments and did it different.
[01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:38.000]  Colorado is telling you that it's going to be a month or so before a preliminary hearing?
[01:02:39.000 --> 01:02:46.000]  How can they have jurisdiction without a determination of probable cause?
[01:02:46.000 --> 01:02:50.000]  Because it was a misdemeanor.
[01:02:50.000 --> 01:02:52.000]  So what?
[01:02:52.000 --> 01:02:58.000]  Exactly.
[01:02:58.000 --> 01:03:04.000]  So, there's no probable cause, there's no jurisdiction.
[01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:09.000]  Right, and therefore there's no prosecutorial power.
[01:03:09.000 --> 01:03:17.000]  Yeah, and the prosecutor, he's not acting as a prosecutor yet because there is no case.
[01:03:17.000 --> 01:03:21.000]  There's no jurisdiction.
[01:03:21.000 --> 01:03:30.000]  In your suit against the prosecutor, did you argue that the state had not yet accrued jurisdiction?
[01:03:30.000 --> 01:03:35.000]  No, I mean, Randy, this is all beautiful stuff.
[01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:37.000]  Here's the problem.
[01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:39.000]  I don't think the judges are this smart.
[01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:41.000]  You don't care?
[01:03:41.000 --> 01:03:44.000]  You don't care about these jackass judges?
[01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:47.000]  You want to set them up so you can sue them.
[01:03:47.000 --> 01:03:49.000]  I want to set the record.
[01:03:49.000 --> 01:03:53.000]  I want to set them up on the record.
[01:03:53.000 --> 01:03:55.000]  I'd have asked the right question.
[01:03:55.000 --> 01:03:59.000]  Have you challenged the subject matter of jurisdiction?
[01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:01.000]  No, I haven't even thought of it.
[01:04:01.000 --> 01:04:09.000]  Put together a challenge to subject matter of jurisdiction, claiming there is no determination of probable cause.
[01:04:09.000 --> 01:04:13.000]  Therefore, the state does not use jurisdiction.
[01:04:13.000 --> 01:04:19.000]  Well, you gave me some good ideas on the other side.
[01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:30.000]  You went on a roll and you were talking about, okay, the key here, the problem is, Randy, is getting in the door.
[01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:33.000]  A lot of us have problems getting in the door who call in here.
[01:04:33.000 --> 01:04:43.000]  They never get their cases rightfully heard, and then they have to go to the appellate court, and they don't have enough decent record on the record to get points before the appellate court.
[01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:49.000]  My single goal at this point, I'm finally to a point where I get what Dr. Greer talks about.
[01:04:49.000 --> 01:04:53.000]  You don't care what the trial court does.
[01:04:53.000 --> 01:04:56.000]  You only care what the appellate court does.
[01:04:56.000 --> 01:04:58.000]  I'm trying to set a very good record.
[01:04:58.000 --> 01:05:00.000]  I'm trying to set them up.
[01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:06.000]  When they say, okay, well, it's this, this, or whatever, I'm already in the door.
[01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:07.000]  I'm already pleading.
[01:05:07.000 --> 01:05:08.000]  I'm already going through the process.
[01:05:08.000 --> 01:05:13.000]  So my only goal right now in the next two weeks is to get my case moving forward.
[01:05:13.000 --> 01:05:16.000]  And then once we get to discovery, I can amend my complaint.
[01:05:16.000 --> 01:05:19.000]  I can, I can, I can do the jurisdiction thing.
[01:05:19.000 --> 01:05:23.000]  And then they're going to, they're going to realize, oh, my God, he set us up.
[01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:25.000]  They're going to start backtracking.
[01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:29.000]  And then they'll either dismiss the case, but I've already got enough on the record.
[01:05:29.000 --> 01:05:30.000]  I get to the appellate court.
[01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:33.000]  Now the appellate court has to make a big decision here.
[01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:36.000]  Do we allow this nonsense going forward?
[01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:40.000]  Or do we start to shut it down and give an opportunity to shut it down?
[01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:43.000]  Because this is going across the nation.
[01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:46.000]  It's in Texas and Colorado from what we're talking about.
[01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:48.000]  They're sidestepping all of our rights.
[01:05:48.000 --> 01:05:51.000]  They're sidestepping all the due process stuff.
[01:05:51.000 --> 01:05:54.000]  But it's instinctual at this point.
[01:05:54.000 --> 01:05:55.000]  They don't care.
[01:05:55.000 --> 01:05:57.000]  They're so used to violating all these laws.
[01:05:57.000 --> 01:05:58.000]  How do we get in the door?
[01:05:58.000 --> 01:06:01.000]  So how do I set the judge up?
[01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:03.000]  But he can't win either way.
[01:06:03.000 --> 01:06:04.000]  That's my goal.
[01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:06.000]  I've got to get in the door.
[01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:09.000]  And I'm trying to think of clever ways to do that.
[01:06:09.000 --> 01:06:13.000]  The way I do it is with criminal complaint.
[01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:20.000]  If I think a prosecuting attorney violated law relating to his office,
[01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:26.000]  and the process died meaningful free access to enjoyment of right, that's crime.
[01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:31.000]  And he can't claim that he has immunity for committing crimes.
[01:06:31.000 --> 01:06:32.000]  Exactly.
[01:06:34.000 --> 01:06:37.000]  Crimes is outside of scope.
[01:06:39.000 --> 01:06:42.000]  Okay, should I imply that in my amending complaint?
[01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:45.000]  No, you should file a criminal complaint.
[01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:48.000]  Actually file a criminal complaint separate.
[01:06:50.000 --> 01:06:55.000]  So a criminal cause of action doesn't involve all the same kind of follow up like a civil one does.
[01:06:55.000 --> 01:06:58.000]  The civil one, you're pushing it through.
[01:06:58.000 --> 01:07:01.000]  You're the plaintiff and you're pushing it through.
[01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:08.000]  So you have to set your motions for hearing and so forth and copy opposing counsel, all that stuff.
[01:07:08.000 --> 01:07:18.000]  With a criminal cause of action, it begins when you trigger somebody's duty to do the court stuff.
[01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:19.000]  You don't do the court stuff.
[01:07:19.000 --> 01:07:23.000]  All you do is swear out a complaint with some facts on it.
[01:07:23.000 --> 01:07:28.000]  And the facts have to line up with the essential elements of a crime.
[01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:30.000]  It's very easy to do.
[01:07:30.000 --> 01:07:33.000]  You read the crime, look at the language of the crime.
[01:07:33.000 --> 01:07:37.000]  You allege the facts that go to each essential element.
[01:07:37.000 --> 01:07:40.000]  It's like pulling the pin and lobbing the grenade.
[01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:43.000]  You don't have to follow up with all of that stuff.
[01:07:43.000 --> 01:07:50.000]  You may have to do some follow up with magistrates who refuse to do their duty, but that's like layers.
[01:07:50.000 --> 01:07:51.000]  It's a different thing.
[01:07:51.000 --> 01:08:01.000]  As far as the criminal complaint itself, it does its thing without you having to follow up.
[01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:03.000]  Does that make sense?
[01:08:03.000 --> 01:08:05.000]  It makes absolute sense.
[01:08:05.000 --> 01:08:06.000]  Here's my thought.
[01:08:06.000 --> 01:08:07.000]  What about the timing?
[01:08:07.000 --> 01:08:12.000]  Because from what I've heard, most of the criminal complaints get ignored.
[01:08:12.000 --> 01:08:15.000]  Of course they get ignored.
[01:08:15.000 --> 01:08:16.000]  That's why I file them.
[01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:17.000]  That's true.
[01:08:17.000 --> 01:08:18.000]  That's true.
[01:08:18.000 --> 01:08:20.000]  And after you file them, you pay attention.
[01:08:20.000 --> 01:08:23.000]  You strategically look at who you're giving them to.
[01:08:23.000 --> 01:08:31.000]  Because of that very reason, they're most likely going to not act on it, which means they're not doing their duty.
[01:08:31.000 --> 01:08:33.000]  They are committing a crime.
[01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:39.000]  A crime of official oppression, obstruction of justice, whatever you want to accuse them of that's appropriate.
[01:08:39.000 --> 01:08:46.000]  You line up those facts, and now you're accusing that magistrate to another magistrate.
[01:08:46.000 --> 01:08:54.000]  So in the big picture, take a look at where a case would be appealed to.
[01:08:54.000 --> 01:09:02.000]  Go from one smaller court up to the appellate court, up to the court of appeals, superior, supreme, whatever.
[01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:05.000]  And go up the chain like that.
[01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:06.000]  That's one path.
[01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:14.000]  Another path is if you look at political rivals.
[01:09:14.000 --> 01:09:25.000]  Look at people who ran against that judge and barely lost and ended up in some other city or JP, often, you know, podunk nowhere.
[01:09:25.000 --> 01:09:32.000]  And they're still a judge, but they're not a judge in the county where they were going to be or whatever.
[01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:43.000]  So these political rivals or let's just say people who are maybe not sympathizers with that particular judge,
[01:09:43.000 --> 01:09:49.000]  they might be more interested in taking a look at your criminal complaint.
[01:09:49.000 --> 01:09:55.000]  Or they also, if they decide not to, they're going to be really, really mad at him
[01:09:55.000 --> 01:10:03.000]  if the appearance of them shielding him comes back to bite them.
[01:10:03.000 --> 01:10:05.000]  So either way, it works out for you.
[01:10:05.000 --> 01:10:13.000]  You're stirring up politics, but it's all based on their lawlessness.
[01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:17.000]  You're not entrapping them into anything.
[01:10:17.000 --> 01:10:19.000]  You're not tricking them into anything.
[01:10:19.000 --> 01:10:25.000]  It's just they're at a disadvantage because you already know what lawlessness they're going to do.
[01:10:25.000 --> 01:10:33.000]  So you get to write up the criminal complaints first and already have it ready for them.
[01:10:33.000 --> 01:10:35.000]  I'm just wondering if it wouldn't.
[01:10:35.000 --> 01:10:37.000]  This is just an idea.
[01:10:37.000 --> 01:10:38.000]  This is a strategy.
[01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:40.000]  Would it be better to do that?
[01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:46.000]  Would it be better to play a little bit stupid in the beginning, get my case in, get it moving forward,
[01:10:46.000 --> 01:10:49.000]  and then start pulling one by one?
[01:10:49.000 --> 01:10:53.000]  And once we're inside, it's like a Trojan horse thing.
[01:10:53.000 --> 01:10:58.000]  Because if I start doing that all up up front, they're not going to let me in.
[01:10:58.000 --> 01:11:00.000]  They're not going to let me into the play the game.
[01:11:00.000 --> 01:11:04.000]  And this case isn't moving forward.
[01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:07.000]  Wait a minute. Hold on. Hold on.
[01:11:07.000 --> 01:11:11.000]  You mean they're not going to let you into the game?
[01:11:11.000 --> 01:11:14.000]  Well, look what they've done.
[01:11:14.000 --> 01:11:16.000]  Look what they've done to a number of us, including you guys.
[01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:21.000]  They do not want you to play in their little game, even though you're still playing.
[01:11:21.000 --> 01:11:24.000]  They don't realize that the nasty of most of us at this point.
[01:11:24.000 --> 01:11:32.000]  But I would rather be like, OK, the thing that I did with the towing lawsuit, I clearly had no idea what I was doing.
[01:11:32.000 --> 01:11:36.000]  I was winging it most of the time, but I was learning their game as I as I went.
[01:11:36.000 --> 01:11:40.000]  But I was in I was in the case was moving forward.
[01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:44.000]  And once I got the case moving forward, then I started pulling all those grenades.
[01:11:44.000 --> 01:11:46.000]  I started filing complaints to the Department of Insurance.
[01:11:46.000 --> 01:11:48.000]  I started getting investigations going.
[01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:50.000]  I started going to the superintendent of the police.
[01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:54.000]  Like all these people started looking at what was going on.
[01:11:54.000 --> 01:12:02.000]  And so when the magistrate judge heard that this was going on behind the scenes, she went over to the opposing party and she says, I don't think you realize this guy is not stopping.
[01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:04.000]  This is going to continue on.
[01:12:04.000 --> 01:12:11.000]  And they weren't even they didn't even know that I filed a state court case a couple of weeks earlier against the insurance company.
[01:12:11.000 --> 01:12:13.000]  So when they learned all this, they were like, holy crap.
[01:12:13.000 --> 01:12:17.000]  And they upped the number a lot to get this to go away.
[01:12:17.000 --> 01:12:24.000]  So and all I was doing was just pulling shotguns on every every avenue that was out there possible.
[01:12:24.000 --> 01:12:33.000]  And had I known about, you know, if I was confident enough to do all the bar grievances and all back then, but it all happened so fast.
[01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:35.000]  I didn't even need to do all that.
[01:12:35.000 --> 01:12:40.000]  So this is what this is what we're talking about here.
[01:12:40.000 --> 01:12:46.000]  You're you need to do some things to lay the groundwork so you work them over later.
[01:12:46.000 --> 01:12:49.000]  Prosecutor, you get you get arrested.
[01:12:49.000 --> 01:12:50.000]  You get it.
[01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:51.000]  You get the ticket.
[01:12:51.000 --> 01:12:58.000]  You go in and the prosecutor, they force you to talk to the prosecutor.
[01:12:58.000 --> 01:13:00.000]  What's that?
[01:13:00.000 --> 01:13:02.000]  He's a lawyer state.
[01:13:02.000 --> 01:13:04.000]  He's opposing counsel.
[01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:06.000]  Exactly.
[01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:09.000]  You don't have any duty to talk to him.
[01:13:09.000 --> 01:13:13.000]  So they exerted or purported to exert an authority they didn't have.
[01:13:13.000 --> 01:13:16.000]  Call that official misconduct and file the complaint.
[01:13:16.000 --> 01:13:18.000]  OK, they're going to toss the complaint.
[01:13:18.000 --> 01:13:23.000]  And then you're going to file against the magistrate who refused to act on a complaint.
[01:13:23.000 --> 01:13:25.000]  I like judicial conduct complaint against him.
[01:13:25.000 --> 01:13:35.000]  And then you file a criminal complaint against him, accusing him of shielding prosecutor for prosecution and acting in concert and collusion.
[01:13:35.000 --> 01:13:40.000]  It doesn't matter if you get all these parts prosecuted.
[01:13:40.000 --> 01:13:43.000]  Go in his record.
[01:13:43.000 --> 01:13:50.000]  And they have to worry whether or not actually going to get this in front of a grand jury.
[01:13:50.000 --> 01:13:56.000]  Federal complaints make them crazy, but only if we use them, set them up so we can sue them.
[01:13:56.000 --> 01:13:59.000]  I'll talk about that.
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[01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:35.000]  Ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again.
[01:16:35.000 --> 01:16:40.000]  I was blindsided but now I can see your plan.
[01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:45.000]  You put the fear in my pockets, took the money from my hand.
[01:16:45.000 --> 01:16:54.000]  Ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again.
[01:16:54.000 --> 01:17:10.000]  Ain't gonna fool me.
[01:17:10.000 --> 01:17:15.000]  Ain't gonna drive me with that same old sucker punch.
[01:17:15.000 --> 01:17:20.000]  I get it now but then I must have been out of your lunch.
[01:17:20.000 --> 01:17:24.000]  Back then you had room to move but now you feel better.
[01:17:24.000 --> 01:17:27.000]  Okay. We are back with Randy Kelton and Brent Schaun.
[01:17:27.000 --> 01:17:31.000]  And I'm the nice guy on the show. Everybody thinks Brent's the nice guy.
[01:17:31.000 --> 01:17:33.000]  No, no, no. I'm the nice guy.
[01:17:33.000 --> 01:17:37.000]  Brent, tell them what you did in Winsboro.
[01:17:37.000 --> 01:17:43.000]  Winsboro. Well, yeah, they lit me up with reds and blues.
[01:17:43.000 --> 01:17:46.000]  And they didn't really have any probable cause.
[01:17:46.000 --> 01:17:48.000]  There was no crime. There was no nothing.
[01:17:48.000 --> 01:17:53.000]  They just, well, you know, they wanted some money. That's the way they do things.
[01:17:53.000 --> 01:17:56.000]  And I went back after them pretty hard.
[01:17:56.000 --> 01:18:01.000]  I was mad. I was fast.
[01:18:01.000 --> 01:18:05.000]  I had criminal complaints against the various actors.
[01:18:05.000 --> 01:18:07.000]  I was quick. I didn't waste any time.
[01:18:07.000 --> 01:18:12.000]  I was after the judge. I went up the chain quickly, up the appellate chain.
[01:18:12.000 --> 01:18:18.000]  To the judges who would be involved if this ever became a case and got appealed,
[01:18:18.000 --> 01:18:23.000]  I was already putting the lower judges' crimes before them.
[01:18:23.000 --> 01:18:29.000]  And I was already moving for disqualification even though there's no case.
[01:18:29.000 --> 01:18:32.000]  They're acting like there's a case and I'm talking about this non-existent case
[01:18:32.000 --> 01:18:36.000]  and saying it's all in their imagination and they need to be disqualified.
[01:18:36.000 --> 01:18:38.000]  And I'm going to the admin judge.
[01:18:38.000 --> 01:18:43.000]  I'm presiding judge of the administrative judicial region.
[01:18:43.000 --> 01:18:49.000]  And on up the chain, court of appeals, I went quickly all the way to the chief justice of the Supreme Court.
[01:18:49.000 --> 01:18:55.000]  And of course these judges don't normally hear from anybody, you know.
[01:18:55.000 --> 01:19:01.000]  So I wasn't surprised that on the low end of the totem pole,
[01:19:01.000 --> 01:19:09.000]  they wanted to dismiss for, what do they call it, dismiss in the interest of justice.
[01:19:09.000 --> 01:19:13.000]  But yeah, that's one way to do it.
[01:19:13.000 --> 01:19:18.000]  I'm listening to your approach, the approach that you're proposing,
[01:19:18.000 --> 01:19:23.000]  kind of play dumb and take it slow and easy, and honestly I don't see a problem with that.
[01:19:23.000 --> 01:19:28.000]  It's not how I've done it, but I think it would be okay.
[01:19:29.000 --> 01:19:37.000]  One thing I would suggest that you consider is while these people are earning criminal complaints
[01:19:37.000 --> 01:19:40.000]  by committing crimes and later you're going to sue them for it,
[01:19:40.000 --> 01:19:44.000]  or later you want to get the criminal complaints out in the open,
[01:19:44.000 --> 01:19:52.000]  well what if right now on the early end, while you're playing dumb and kind of taking it slow and easy,
[01:19:52.000 --> 01:19:55.000]  go ahead and swear out the criminal complaints.
[01:19:55.000 --> 01:20:03.000]  Go write them up, take it to a notary, and stick it on a shelf for later.
[01:20:03.000 --> 01:20:07.000]  That way when you do decide that you want to pull that trigger,
[01:20:07.000 --> 01:20:12.000]  later on you're done with the playing dumb and you're ready to pull out the big guns,
[01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:18.000]  well those criminal complaints, you've got a stack of them, and they were all earned,
[01:20:18.000 --> 01:20:23.000]  they're dated with when those crimes happened.
[01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:28.000]  So it also is a little easier for you in terms of writing up documents.
[01:20:28.000 --> 01:20:33.000]  You won't have kind of like a balloon payment on a mortgage.
[01:20:33.000 --> 01:20:39.000]  You won't have any lull time and then all of a sudden super pressure at the end
[01:20:39.000 --> 01:20:43.000]  to hurry up and write all of these documents at once.
[01:20:43.000 --> 01:20:46.000]  So just something for you to think about.
[01:20:46.000 --> 01:20:51.000]  No, that's good advice, and I actually like that because if I know it's there,
[01:20:51.000 --> 01:20:54.000]  I can act on a hair trigger, right?
[01:20:54.000 --> 01:20:59.000]  And get it in for the appropriate time, because here's the thing I'm learning,
[01:20:59.000 --> 01:21:02.000]  and I think we all kind of get this about the psychology.
[01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:07.000]  Do you guys have other callers just before I go on another little ramble here?
[01:21:07.000 --> 01:21:12.000]  We've got one other caller and two open slots.
[01:21:12.000 --> 01:21:15.000]  Okay, great.
[01:21:15.000 --> 01:21:19.000]  As intelligent as some of these judges are and these officials are
[01:21:19.000 --> 01:21:21.000]  and these people who work in the government,
[01:21:21.000 --> 01:21:25.000]  there's an immaturity level that is their vulnerability.
[01:21:25.000 --> 01:21:30.000]  It's the narcissism, it's the insecurity, why they get into some of this sometimes.
[01:21:30.000 --> 01:21:33.000]  Not all of them, but a lot of them have this.
[01:21:33.000 --> 01:21:39.000]  And so they look for, I heard it from a credit card company this week,
[01:21:39.000 --> 01:21:42.000]  I had a whole fiasco because I filed a complaint about somebody
[01:21:42.000 --> 01:21:45.000]  who had got my social security number back a couple months ago
[01:21:45.000 --> 01:21:48.000]  and they're doing some weird stuff, okay, blah, blah, blah.
[01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:52.000]  And this is what, so they shut down all my accounts
[01:21:52.000 --> 01:21:55.000]  because I filed a complaint against one issue.
[01:21:55.000 --> 01:21:57.000]  They shut down my entire credit history.
[01:21:57.000 --> 01:21:58.000]  So it was just ridiculous.
[01:21:58.000 --> 01:22:02.000]  Anyway, so Capital One was one of the credit cards that got ordered to be shut down.
[01:22:02.000 --> 01:22:06.000]  And when I talked to this guy, and he was a nice guy, but he literally said this.
[01:22:06.000 --> 01:22:09.000]  Basically, I'm going to put some inflection there.
[01:22:09.000 --> 01:22:11.000]  We didn't make a mistake.
[01:22:11.000 --> 01:22:14.000]  So therefore, we have no obligation to do anything
[01:22:14.000 --> 01:22:19.000]  unless somebody else admits they made the mistake.
[01:22:19.000 --> 01:22:20.000]  And this is what this guy did.
[01:22:20.000 --> 01:22:21.000]  Wait a second.
[01:22:21.000 --> 01:22:22.000]  I didn't make the mistake.
[01:22:22.000 --> 01:22:23.000]  You didn't make the mistake.
[01:22:23.000 --> 01:22:25.000]  They're going to claim they didn't make the mistake,
[01:22:25.000 --> 01:22:27.000]  but clearly a mistake was made.
[01:22:27.000 --> 01:22:30.000]  And then I got up his butt and I said, if you're going to use legalistic terms,
[01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:32.000]  here's what a judge is going to say.
[01:22:32.000 --> 01:22:35.000]  You didn't act with any consideration for consumer rights.
[01:22:35.000 --> 01:22:36.000]  Okay, I went off on him.
[01:22:36.000 --> 01:22:43.000]  Anyway, but it reinforced an understanding about what I see in our culture.
[01:22:43.000 --> 01:22:45.000]  It's not culture, our society.
[01:22:45.000 --> 01:22:51.000]  It's this game of I'm a good person if somebody else is to blame.
[01:22:51.000 --> 01:22:55.000]  And that's a degree of how this politics works from what I see.
[01:22:55.000 --> 01:22:58.000]  When they see somebody else getting burned and it's getting too hot,
[01:22:58.000 --> 01:23:01.000]  getting too close to them, they'll let that person burn.
[01:23:01.000 --> 01:23:03.000]  And right now, it's the police.
[01:23:03.000 --> 01:23:09.000]  I was really surprised that our courts are so willing to let the police in this state burn.
[01:23:09.000 --> 01:23:10.000]  Now, they deserve it.
[01:23:10.000 --> 01:23:11.000]  They screwed up.
[01:23:12.000 --> 01:23:17.000]  But it's so interesting that they're letting that case move forward very quickly.
[01:23:17.000 --> 01:23:20.000]  And even the judge, he was speaking in favor of me
[01:23:20.000 --> 01:23:22.000]  when we were doing the initial status conference.
[01:23:22.000 --> 01:23:24.000]  Don't they let people sleep at Wal-Mart?
[01:23:24.000 --> 01:23:25.000]  What's going on here?
[01:23:25.000 --> 01:23:26.000]  And he got the DA to talk.
[01:23:26.000 --> 01:23:27.000]  Of course, he lied.
[01:23:27.000 --> 01:23:29.000]  Not the DA, the defense attorney.
[01:23:29.000 --> 01:23:31.000]  Of course, he lies.
[01:23:31.000 --> 01:23:33.000]  And I had to correct it on the record.
[01:23:33.000 --> 01:23:38.000]  But the prosecution, they're starting to protect.
[01:23:38.000 --> 01:23:42.000]  It's a hip-shot gut instinct to protect the prosecutors.
[01:23:42.000 --> 01:23:46.000]  So if they're already going to protect them right now
[01:23:46.000 --> 01:23:49.000]  when I'm going after them with pretty clear violations,
[01:23:49.000 --> 01:23:52.000]  if I go after them with all the criminal complaints right now and all of that,
[01:23:52.000 --> 01:23:54.000]  they're going to shut me down completely.
[01:23:54.000 --> 01:23:58.000]  So I want to at least get this case a shot,
[01:23:58.000 --> 01:24:02.000]  because if I can get it in and I can go after this one DA,
[01:24:02.000 --> 01:24:06.000]  then they're going to see him as that black sheep they want out
[01:24:06.000 --> 01:24:07.000]  because he's too hot.
[01:24:07.000 --> 01:24:09.000]  But they're not going to realize that I set him up
[01:24:09.000 --> 01:24:12.000]  and I'm using it to crack the whole prosecution.
[01:24:12.000 --> 01:24:15.000]  How are they going to shut you down?
[01:24:15.000 --> 01:24:18.000]  Well, they're already trying to.
[01:24:18.000 --> 01:24:20.000]  I don't know about that.
[01:24:20.000 --> 01:24:21.000]  How are they going to shut you down?
[01:24:21.000 --> 01:24:22.000]  Brandy, you're really muted.
[01:24:22.000 --> 01:24:24.000]  I can't hear you very well.
[01:24:24.000 --> 01:24:28.000]  Yeah, it went really low volume all of a sudden.
[01:24:28.000 --> 01:24:30.000]  Okay, I'm going to move my mic a little closer.
[01:24:30.000 --> 01:24:33.000]  Sometimes I get it too close and it gets too loud.
[01:24:33.000 --> 01:24:34.000]  Okay.
[01:24:34.000 --> 01:24:36.000]  Oh, maybe it's not plugged in.
[01:24:36.000 --> 01:24:38.000]  It may be losing power.
[01:24:38.000 --> 01:24:40.000]  You're okay now.
[01:24:40.000 --> 01:24:44.000]  How are they going to, there's not much they can do.
[01:24:44.000 --> 01:24:47.000]  You know, I went in and I'm filing criminal complaints
[01:24:47.000 --> 01:24:49.000]  and nobody's acting on them.
[01:24:49.000 --> 01:24:57.000]  And finally I figured out that I am the citizen in a republic.
[01:24:58.000 --> 01:25:02.000]  So I filed all my complaints with the highest level
[01:25:02.000 --> 01:25:06.000]  public official in the state.
[01:25:06.000 --> 01:25:08.000]  And when he didn't do what he was supposed to,
[01:25:08.000 --> 01:25:10.000]  I sued him in the federal court.
[01:25:10.000 --> 01:25:13.000]  That was Nathan Hetch, the Chief Justice of the Supreme.
[01:25:13.000 --> 01:25:15.000]  Brett's been on his case.
[01:25:15.000 --> 01:25:20.000]  We are the citizens in the republic.
[01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:23.000]  Everybody answers to us.
[01:25:23.000 --> 01:25:26.000]  We are essentially the citizens in the republic.
[01:25:26.000 --> 01:25:28.000]  We are essentially the CEO.
[01:25:28.000 --> 01:25:34.000]  Now if the CEO observes the guy in the mail room goofing off,
[01:25:34.000 --> 01:25:37.000]  he don't go chew out the guy in the mail room.
[01:25:37.000 --> 01:25:40.000]  He goes and chews out the executive vice president
[01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:45.000]  over that particular area.
[01:25:45.000 --> 01:25:48.000]  We're the CEOs in the republic.
[01:25:48.000 --> 01:25:52.000]  All of these people work for us.
[01:25:52.000 --> 01:25:56.000]  So every time I'm dealing with them,
[01:25:56.000 --> 01:26:04.000]  I'm thinking how do I get these guys to the federal court?
[01:26:04.000 --> 01:26:07.000]  I filed a federal suit.
[01:26:07.000 --> 01:26:12.000]  The court of criminal appeals gets my suit, 150 page suit.
[01:26:12.000 --> 01:26:15.000]  And they said, this page, this case is frivolous,
[01:26:15.000 --> 01:26:16.000]  dismissed with prejudice.
[01:26:16.000 --> 01:26:17.000]  That's it.
[01:26:17.000 --> 01:26:20.000]  No findings, no facts, no nothing.
[01:26:20.000 --> 01:26:24.000]  So I said, I paid for this, Bubba.
[01:26:24.000 --> 01:26:26.000]  I paid you guys like 500 bucks to do this,
[01:26:26.000 --> 01:26:30.000]  and I expect good quality work from my public officials,
[01:26:30.000 --> 01:26:33.000]  and I didn't get it.
[01:26:33.000 --> 01:26:40.000]  So I filed criminal charges with the federal grand jury in Fort Worth.
[01:26:40.000 --> 01:26:44.000]  We can do that because we're the bosses.
[01:26:44.000 --> 01:26:49.000]  So they can't stop you.
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[01:30:47.000 --> 01:30:49.000]  We're at Fountain Rule of Law Radio,
[01:30:49.000 --> 01:30:51.000]  and we're talking to Chris in Colorado.
[01:30:51.000 --> 01:30:57.000]  Chris, you're still talking like an employee.
[01:30:57.000 --> 01:30:59.000]  What I was doing at the end of the last segment
[01:30:59.000 --> 01:31:03.000]  is I was trying to get you to shift the gear.
[01:31:03.000 --> 01:31:05.000]  You're the boss.
[01:31:05.000 --> 01:31:07.000]  Everybody answers to you.
[01:31:07.000 --> 01:31:10.000]  And you're dealing with these low-level flunkies down here
[01:31:10.000 --> 01:31:12.000]  and they're doing stupid stuff.
[01:31:12.000 --> 01:31:16.000]  So, you take notes.
[01:31:16.000 --> 01:31:19.000]  You keep records of the garbage they're doing.
[01:31:19.000 --> 01:31:22.000]  So as you're dealing with these low-level flunkies down here
[01:31:22.000 --> 01:31:24.000]  and they're doing stupid stuff,
[01:31:24.000 --> 01:31:26.000]  you keep records of the garbage they're doing.
[01:31:26.000 --> 01:31:30.000]  So as you move up the line, then you can hammer them.
[01:31:33.000 --> 01:31:36.000]  I just filed against the federal judges,
[01:31:36.000 --> 01:31:39.000]  and I know Eric made a comment about that.
[01:31:39.000 --> 01:31:41.000]  He's filed some criminal complaints in the Fed,
[01:31:41.000 --> 01:31:44.000]  and nobody did anything.
[01:31:44.000 --> 01:31:48.000]  Well, I get that all the time.
[01:31:48.000 --> 01:31:51.000]  So I've been working out how to fix that.
[01:31:51.000 --> 01:31:54.000]  And what we're doing now in Texas
[01:31:54.000 --> 01:32:00.000]  is I take a criminal complaint to a public official.
[01:32:00.000 --> 01:32:04.000]  And when the public official looks at the criminal complaint
[01:32:04.000 --> 01:32:07.000]  and he doesn't issue a warrant,
[01:32:07.000 --> 01:32:10.000]  then I leave his office and go to the nearest JP's office,
[01:32:10.000 --> 01:32:13.000]  and I've got this template that you can download
[01:32:13.000 --> 01:32:18.000]  off of prosafefromhells.com slash templates.
[01:32:18.000 --> 01:32:22.000]  And I put in the judge's name.
[01:32:22.000 --> 01:32:24.000]  I put it right in my name.
[01:32:24.000 --> 01:32:27.000]  And there's only two facts.
[01:32:27.000 --> 01:32:28.000]  I gave him a criminal complaint,
[01:32:28.000 --> 01:32:32.000]  and he did not immediately orthwit issue a warrant.
[01:32:32.000 --> 01:32:35.000]  So I charge him with violating 3903 penal code,
[01:32:35.000 --> 01:32:38.000]  and I sign it.
[01:32:38.000 --> 01:32:41.000]  I give it to the next judge.
[01:32:41.000 --> 01:32:43.000]  I give it to the judge.
[01:32:43.000 --> 01:32:47.000]  And when he does not issue a warrant orthwit,
[01:32:47.000 --> 01:32:50.000]  I'm sorry, I got lost place where I was at.
[01:32:50.000 --> 01:32:53.000]  I take a criminal complaint to the magistrate.
[01:32:53.000 --> 01:32:56.000]  And 1509 says that when a complaint is forwarded
[01:32:56.000 --> 01:32:58.000]  to a magistrate in accordance with 1508
[01:32:58.000 --> 01:33:01.000]  and it's complete in accordance with 1505,
[01:33:01.000 --> 01:33:04.000]  the magistrate shall forthwit issue a warrant.
[01:33:04.000 --> 01:33:05.000]  When he doesn't issue a warrant,
[01:33:05.000 --> 01:33:10.000]  I go to JP's office and sue him for $19,000
[01:33:10.000 --> 01:33:12.000]  in the small claims court.
[01:33:12.000 --> 01:33:19.000]  I got a guy in San Antonio that sued the JP
[01:33:19.000 --> 01:33:21.000]  that wouldn't take his complaints
[01:33:21.000 --> 01:33:24.000]  against the municipal judge.
[01:33:24.000 --> 01:33:28.000]  He sued the JP within 45 minutes.
[01:33:28.000 --> 01:33:33.000]  How does it feel to be played like a cheap fiddle?
[01:33:33.000 --> 01:33:38.000]  When we start coming back after them,
[01:33:38.000 --> 01:33:40.000]  that's when they're going to start looking around
[01:33:40.000 --> 01:33:43.000]  and saying, we got to do something different.
[01:33:43.000 --> 01:33:46.000]  I've been filing criminal complaints for years,
[01:33:46.000 --> 01:33:50.000]  and everybody just throws them in the trash.
[01:33:50.000 --> 01:33:52.000]  So now I'm filing criminal complaints
[01:33:52.000 --> 01:33:58.000]  in order to get them not to act on them.
[01:33:58.000 --> 01:34:00.000]  So you file a criminal complaint with a magistrate,
[01:34:00.000 --> 01:34:04.000]  and the magistrate refuses to make a determination
[01:34:04.000 --> 01:34:08.000]  to probable cause, or he fails to find probable cause
[01:34:08.000 --> 01:34:10.000]  when there is probable cause.
[01:34:10.000 --> 01:34:13.000]  Then you charge him with conspiring
[01:34:13.000 --> 01:34:18.000]  with the public official you're filing against
[01:34:18.000 --> 01:34:22.000]  to deny you due process.
[01:34:22.000 --> 01:34:27.000]  Now, they'll throw that out, who cares?
[01:34:27.000 --> 01:34:31.000]  Eventually, if I was in Colorado,
[01:34:31.000 --> 01:34:33.000]  I'd work up a good suit I could file.
[01:34:33.000 --> 01:34:36.000]  I'm going to file a suit in the small claims court.
[01:34:36.000 --> 01:34:39.000]  I don't care if I win or not.
[01:34:39.000 --> 01:34:42.000]  That ain't the point.
[01:34:42.000 --> 01:34:46.000]  The point is, when I sue him in his personal capacity,
[01:34:46.000 --> 01:34:51.000]  what he's going to do is he's going to go to the city attorney
[01:34:51.000 --> 01:34:53.000]  or the county attorney
[01:34:53.000 --> 01:34:57.000]  and have the county attorney write him a response.
[01:34:57.000 --> 01:35:01.000]  Because that's what he's for.
[01:35:01.000 --> 01:35:04.000]  Not if you sue him in his personal capacity,
[01:35:04.000 --> 01:35:09.000]  because when he gets the county attorney to file a response for him,
[01:35:09.000 --> 01:35:12.000]  then I file a motion to strike
[01:35:12.000 --> 01:35:16.000]  claiming that the guy was sued in his personal capacity,
[01:35:16.000 --> 01:35:18.000]  not in his official capacity.
[01:35:18.000 --> 01:35:24.000]  Therefore, he does not have a right to have the city,
[01:35:24.000 --> 01:35:26.000]  the county attorney on the county's dime
[01:35:26.000 --> 01:35:30.000]  represent him in a suit against him in his personal capacity
[01:35:30.000 --> 01:35:35.000]  and then move for default judgment.
[01:35:35.000 --> 01:35:37.000]  Because your time is up.
[01:35:37.000 --> 01:35:41.000]  You filed an answer within the time limit,
[01:35:41.000 --> 01:35:44.000]  but the answer was improper
[01:35:44.000 --> 01:35:47.000]  because this lawyer didn't have standing to file it.
[01:35:47.000 --> 01:35:50.000]  Now your time is up. I want default judgment.
[01:35:50.000 --> 01:35:54.000]  Well, I'm not going to get default judgment,
[01:35:54.000 --> 01:36:01.000]  but I'm going to have this public official on his tippy toes.
[01:36:01.000 --> 01:36:04.000]  I'm coming after him now,
[01:36:04.000 --> 01:36:07.000]  and he has to answer to me.
[01:36:07.000 --> 01:36:09.000]  He can't just ignore it and blow it off.
[01:36:09.000 --> 01:36:13.000]  He's got to answer.
[01:36:13.000 --> 01:36:15.000]  How many times do you think we need to sue these guys
[01:36:15.000 --> 01:36:22.000]  to get them to change their behavior?
[01:36:23.000 --> 01:36:25.000]  You don't have to do it many times.
[01:36:25.000 --> 01:36:29.000]  Just the fact that you're on their doorstep frightens them.
[01:36:29.000 --> 01:36:35.000]  Yeah, it's like who wants to play Russian roulette with their finances?
[01:36:35.000 --> 01:36:39.000]  Yes.
[01:36:39.000 --> 01:36:41.000]  Even if I lose, I win.
[01:36:41.000 --> 01:36:43.000]  That's what happened with my big...
[01:36:43.000 --> 01:36:45.000]  Exactly.
[01:36:45.000 --> 01:36:47.000]  Right.
[01:36:48.000 --> 01:36:52.000]  You've forced the judge to pay attention to the law
[01:36:52.000 --> 01:36:56.000]  or the prosecutor, whoever it is,
[01:36:56.000 --> 01:36:58.000]  with a warning that this is going to happen again.
[01:36:58.000 --> 01:37:03.000]  That's why I had the first suit to file
[01:37:03.000 --> 01:37:06.000]  and said, I want these guys to think
[01:37:06.000 --> 01:37:08.000]  we're going to be doing this all over the state.
[01:37:08.000 --> 01:37:11.000]  So I took it home and redid it.
[01:37:11.000 --> 01:37:13.000]  I had my name and address at the top
[01:37:13.000 --> 01:37:15.000]  and all the information in there.
[01:37:15.000 --> 01:37:19.000]  I took it all out and put in a line that said
[01:37:19.000 --> 01:37:23.000]  your name, line, your address,
[01:37:23.000 --> 01:37:27.000]  the plaintiff, defendant's name with a line
[01:37:27.000 --> 01:37:31.000]  and everything I filled in by hand.
[01:37:31.000 --> 01:37:35.000]  And right across the top of it, I've got this header.
[01:37:35.000 --> 01:37:38.000]  Federal documents you get from PACER,
[01:37:38.000 --> 01:37:42.000]  they've got a blue header right at the top of the document.
[01:37:42.000 --> 01:37:44.000]  So I put a blue header up there that said,
[01:37:44.000 --> 01:37:54.000]  Www.prosefromhell.com slash templates slash magistrate suit.
[01:37:54.000 --> 01:37:59.000]  I gave this one of these documents to a justice
[01:37:59.000 --> 01:38:02.000]  of the peace in Lake Worth.
[01:38:02.000 --> 01:38:05.000]  He pulled it out of the red folder
[01:38:05.000 --> 01:38:08.000]  and his eyes just went like radar.
[01:38:08.000 --> 01:38:12.000]  I faded it 50%
[01:38:12.000 --> 01:38:14.000]  and put it in 10-point fonts.
[01:38:14.000 --> 01:38:16.000]  It's real small, small up there.
[01:38:16.000 --> 01:38:19.000]  Man, his eyes zapped right on it.
[01:38:19.000 --> 01:38:22.000]  Are you this pro se from hell?
[01:38:22.000 --> 01:38:23.000]  Oh, no, no, no.
[01:38:23.000 --> 01:38:27.000]  That's just a website where I downloaded this template.
[01:38:27.000 --> 01:38:33.000]  It was glorious.
[01:38:33.000 --> 01:38:35.000]  This is what we need to do.
[01:38:35.000 --> 01:38:38.000]  And only we can do it.
[01:38:38.000 --> 01:38:40.000]  Because we're the citizens.
[01:38:40.000 --> 01:38:45.000]  You talk about winning, even if you're losing,
[01:38:45.000 --> 01:38:50.000]  and it brings to mind a comment from a judge told me one time,
[01:38:50.000 --> 01:38:56.000]  you have no idea how much money you have cost them.
[01:38:56.000 --> 01:39:01.000]  What did you say?
[01:39:01.000 --> 01:39:09.000]  I don't know, but yeah, that was his take on it.
[01:39:09.000 --> 01:39:10.000]  That was his perspective.
[01:39:10.000 --> 01:39:16.000]  So I consider that to be one way to give us banking
[01:39:16.000 --> 01:39:21.000]  to our public officials when they decide to go deviate from the law
[01:39:21.000 --> 01:39:22.000]  and do their own thing.
[01:39:22.000 --> 01:39:29.000]  And then they end up having a lot of cost involved to deal with.
[01:39:29.000 --> 01:39:37.000]  I'm sure that's embarrassing to them too in their office.
[01:39:38.000 --> 01:39:42.000]  I guess what I'm trying to get confidence enough up
[01:39:42.000 --> 01:39:47.000]  is to really feel comfortable in the appellate world.
[01:39:47.000 --> 01:39:51.000]  Because if that's really true, what we're talking about,
[01:39:51.000 --> 01:39:53.000]  because I've heard it many times on the show,
[01:39:53.000 --> 01:39:54.000]  and Dr. Gray's talk of it,
[01:39:54.000 --> 01:39:57.000]  does not matter what they say in the trial court.
[01:39:57.000 --> 01:39:59.000]  I was terrified of the trial court.
[01:39:59.000 --> 01:40:01.000]  And now I'm not.
[01:40:01.000 --> 01:40:04.000]  And I mean, I'm a little nervous, but not really.
[01:40:04.000 --> 01:40:06.000]  I'm looking forward to the appellate process,
[01:40:06.000 --> 01:40:11.000]  because it's just such a cool thing to talk candidly about the law
[01:40:11.000 --> 01:40:15.000]  and what really should be done and due process and all that kind of stuff.
[01:40:15.000 --> 01:40:16.000]  We're not even talking about facts.
[01:40:16.000 --> 01:40:19.000]  We're just talking about who we are.
[01:40:19.000 --> 01:40:24.000]  And I just really like the idea that that's where the law is set.
[01:40:24.000 --> 01:40:29.000]  And so if we can affect it, I mean, look what Tina just did.
[01:40:29.000 --> 01:40:31.000]  I mean, holy hell.
[01:40:31.000 --> 01:40:32.000]  It took her a long time.
[01:40:32.000 --> 01:40:34.000]  But she worked her way up to a confidence level,
[01:40:34.000 --> 01:40:36.000]  where now she's in the appeals section.
[01:40:36.000 --> 01:40:38.000]  And they're like, well, I don't know about the appeals,
[01:40:38.000 --> 01:40:41.000]  but she's like setting law.
[01:40:41.000 --> 01:40:42.000]  Right.
[01:40:42.000 --> 01:40:45.000]  I just think that's just so huge.
[01:40:45.000 --> 01:40:46.000]  And you're right.
[01:40:46.000 --> 01:40:48.000]  It's wonderful.
[01:40:48.000 --> 01:40:50.000]  It doesn't matter if we win or lose.
[01:40:50.000 --> 01:40:54.000]  If we get close enough, it matters.
[01:40:54.000 --> 01:40:55.000]  Right.
[01:40:55.000 --> 01:40:56.000]  OK, hold on.
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[01:43:18.000 --> 01:43:22.000]  Yeah baby Jerry, sing reality.
[01:43:26.000 --> 01:43:29.000]  How can cameras lurking around the corner?
[01:43:29.000 --> 01:43:31.000]  Sing Jerry, come on!
[01:43:31.000 --> 01:43:36.000]  As we sow, so shall we reap.
[01:43:36.000 --> 01:43:38.000]  The words of the three sheep per seed.
[01:43:38.000 --> 01:43:44.000]  So many crucial words to put on all that we see.
[01:43:45.000 --> 01:43:53.000]  Try as we will, just very small steps to the giant knees.
[01:43:53.000 --> 01:44:00.000]  As we sow, so shall we reap.
[01:44:00.000 --> 01:44:04.000]  Oh, it's not half of the hour yet, but I can do it anyway.
[01:44:04.000 --> 01:44:11.000]  On this, the seventh day of March, it's Friday the seventh day of March 2025,
[01:44:11.000 --> 01:44:14.000]  we're talking to Chris in Colorado.
[01:44:14.000 --> 01:44:23.000]  And if I get anything out there, it doesn't matter what they do with our complaints.
[01:44:23.000 --> 01:44:29.000]  If we can give them a hard time, especially if I want to start suing them,
[01:44:29.000 --> 01:44:35.000]  everything I'm doing now is setting them up so I can sue them.
[01:44:35.000 --> 01:44:40.000]  I don't have to, but I want to have it in the bag.
[01:44:40.000 --> 01:44:46.000]  I'm going to start going in, and I'm already doing that,
[01:44:46.000 --> 01:44:53.000]  giving magistrates complaints over peddling nothing stuff.
[01:44:53.000 --> 01:44:58.000]  And when they don't issue warrants, then I sue them.
[01:44:58.000 --> 01:45:03.000]  I want them to know that I didn't care about what I was complaining about at all.
[01:45:03.000 --> 01:45:06.000]  I just used that so I could sue you.
[01:45:06.000 --> 01:45:08.000]  I've been working in Colleyville.
[01:45:08.000 --> 01:45:13.000]  Dr. Joe got a ticket, and I went down there and asked to see a record
[01:45:13.000 --> 01:45:21.000]  because I couldn't read the officer's name and ask him for the name of the officer.
[01:45:21.000 --> 01:45:27.000]  He gave me a hard time, so I called 911.
[01:45:27.000 --> 01:45:32.000]  I get this cop out there, and I wanted to take my complaint.
[01:45:32.000 --> 01:45:38.000]  He said, well, if you read this information, you'll have to file an information request.
[01:45:38.000 --> 01:45:40.000]  Oh, wow, you're my lawyer now.
[01:45:40.000 --> 01:45:44.000]  I said, look, Bubba, I don't need legal advice.
[01:45:44.000 --> 01:45:48.000]  You take the complaint, I'll make the complaint, you take the complaint,
[01:45:48.000 --> 01:45:55.000]  and you do with it what Article 2.13 Paragraph C commands you to do.
[01:45:55.000 --> 01:45:59.000]  Well, I don't know if I'm going to do that or not.
[01:45:59.000 --> 01:46:00.000]  That's okay.
[01:46:00.000 --> 01:46:02.000]  Life is filled with dealing decisions.
[01:46:02.000 --> 01:46:04.000]  We all get to make some.
[01:46:04.000 --> 01:46:09.000]  So he's looking at me thinking, what is going on here?
[01:46:09.000 --> 01:46:12.000]  This guy don't care what I do.
[01:46:12.000 --> 01:46:17.000]  I didn't tell him I was going to sue him, but I'm going to.
[01:46:17.000 --> 01:46:25.000]  And I want it to be such a minor piddling little thing that you won't see it coming.
[01:46:25.000 --> 01:46:28.000]  I gave the judge a criminal complaint.
[01:46:28.000 --> 01:46:31.000]  She said, what do you want me to do with this?
[01:46:31.000 --> 01:46:35.000]  This was a municipal judge, and she had just finished court,
[01:46:35.000 --> 01:46:40.000]  and I gave this to the bailiff and told the bailiff to instruct the judge that I had business with the court.
[01:46:40.000 --> 01:46:41.000]  She did.
[01:46:41.000 --> 01:46:42.000]  She looked at the complaint.
[01:46:42.000 --> 01:46:45.000]  She said, Mr. Kelly, what do you want me to do with these?
[01:46:45.000 --> 01:46:50.000]  I want you to do exactly what Article 15.09 commands you to do with them.
[01:46:50.000 --> 01:46:57.000]  Well, I'll take this under advisement, with all due respect, Your Honor.
[01:46:57.000 --> 01:47:03.000]  Article 15.09 does not allow for taking this under advisement.
[01:47:03.000 --> 01:47:07.000]  It orders you to issue a warrant forthwith.
[01:47:07.000 --> 01:47:10.000]  Well, I'll take this under advisement.
[01:47:10.000 --> 01:47:13.000]  She walked out of the courtroom.
[01:47:13.000 --> 01:47:15.000]  This bailiff is a female.
[01:47:15.000 --> 01:47:17.000]  I need you.
[01:47:17.000 --> 01:47:22.000]  And I wrote out a criminal complaint and gave it to the bailiff.
[01:47:22.000 --> 01:47:28.000]  Now I'll go and sue her in the Justice of the Peace Court.
[01:47:28.000 --> 01:47:32.000]  She's going to wonder, what in the heck is going on here?
[01:47:32.000 --> 01:47:35.000]  She has no idea what I'm doing.
[01:47:35.000 --> 01:47:47.000]  I gave her a complaint against a municipal court judge in Rome, Texas, which is about 50 miles away.
[01:47:47.000 --> 01:47:55.000]  I accused him of not issuing a warrant against the Justice of the Peace.
[01:47:55.000 --> 01:48:03.000]  And I accused it because I had accused the Justice of the Peace of not issuing a warrant against the sheriff.
[01:48:03.000 --> 01:48:07.000]  And they're not getting the irony of that.
[01:48:07.000 --> 01:48:09.000]  That's okay.
[01:48:09.000 --> 01:48:16.000]  We'll go to the civil court and they can hire a lawyer and explain to the court why they didn't do what the law commanded them to do.
[01:48:16.000 --> 01:48:22.000]  Okay, it's minor nitpicking about as low down in the court as you can get.
[01:48:22.000 --> 01:48:31.000]  But if you're a judge and you get sued, you're going to have to answer.
[01:48:31.000 --> 01:48:33.000]  Period.
[01:48:33.000 --> 01:48:36.000]  You may claim you've got immunity, all this other stuff.
[01:48:36.000 --> 01:48:38.000]  Go ahead. Who cares?
[01:48:38.000 --> 01:48:40.000]  You're going to have to.
[01:48:40.000 --> 01:48:44.000]  So you can't just blow me off.
[01:48:44.000 --> 01:48:47.000]  That makes sense.
[01:48:47.000 --> 01:48:52.000]  That gets you excited, Chris, and ready to go hammer them big time.
[01:48:52.000 --> 01:48:56.000]  Well, I'm enjoying hammering them already.
[01:48:56.000 --> 01:48:58.000]  I wish they had more of my wits from me.
[01:48:58.000 --> 01:49:00.000]  I'm still trying to get through the car accident.
[01:49:00.000 --> 01:49:02.000]  But yeah, this is fulfilling.
[01:49:02.000 --> 01:49:07.000]  Because whether we're winning or not, we're making them do something.
[01:49:07.000 --> 01:49:11.000]  We're making them do their job to some level or to a better level.
[01:49:11.000 --> 01:49:15.000]  And I wish they would all just do their own job, but it's like we're babysitting.
[01:49:15.000 --> 01:49:16.000]  And you're right.
[01:49:16.000 --> 01:49:18.000]  We are the bosses.
[01:49:18.000 --> 01:49:28.000]  And I probably act like an employee, but I would probably be the employee that no employer would ever want to fire because they knew they would be in trouble.
[01:49:28.000 --> 01:49:33.000]  That's good. That'll work.
[01:49:33.000 --> 01:49:35.000]  Because I do a good job.
[01:49:35.000 --> 01:49:39.000]  I may be a pain in the ass, but I do a good job almost everything I do.
[01:49:39.000 --> 01:49:42.000]  And if they fired me, they knew it would be a lot of heat afterwards.
[01:49:42.000 --> 01:49:44.000]  But you're right.
[01:49:44.000 --> 01:49:48.000]  I need to walk into the boss's situation and just control it.
[01:49:48.000 --> 01:49:55.000]  And I think we're getting closer and closer to that.
[01:49:55.000 --> 01:50:04.000]  And I don't know what it's going to feel like to finally say to a judge, you know what, Baylis, you need to arrest that judge.
[01:50:04.000 --> 01:50:08.000]  I can tell you it is so much fun.
[01:50:08.000 --> 01:50:11.000]  I feel it coming, Randy. I feel it coming.
[01:50:11.000 --> 01:50:21.000]  You know, when you asked the Baylis to arrest the judge, you just stuck the judge in a really tough position.
[01:50:21.000 --> 01:50:26.000]  If he opens his mouth, he knows that I know.
[01:50:26.000 --> 01:50:35.000]  Fitness, tampering, obstruction without regard to the validity of my complaint makes no difference.
[01:50:35.000 --> 01:50:45.000]  That I'm making one invokes everybody's duty.
[01:50:45.000 --> 01:50:51.000]  So if he opens his mouth, then he's got real charges against him.
[01:50:51.000 --> 01:50:55.000]  And they really don't like being put in that position.
[01:50:55.000 --> 01:51:00.000]  Need to be. Often.
[01:51:00.000 --> 01:51:03.000]  Okay.
[01:51:03.000 --> 01:51:06.000]  I'll get off now. Thank you so much, guys.
[01:51:06.000 --> 01:51:17.000]  I'm going to go back over this show and try to piece together some ideas to pressure the judge in my next complaint and my amended complaint.
[01:51:17.000 --> 01:51:23.000]  I think I think they're testing me to see what I'm up to or how much I really know.
[01:51:23.000 --> 01:51:27.000]  See if they can toss me out quick because I don't know really what they're up to.
[01:51:27.000 --> 01:51:33.000]  Or if I if I really can, if I'm going to cause enough heat later on where they're going to like, OK, we got to play with them.
[01:51:33.000 --> 01:51:43.000]  So, yeah, I would think that's a that's a worthwhile thing to consider because they really do that a lot.
[01:51:43.000 --> 01:51:46.000]  Trying to feel you out, figure out how much trouble you're going to be.
[01:51:46.000 --> 01:51:50.000]  That's a very common tactic of theirs.
[01:51:50.000 --> 01:51:54.000]  And it's kind of like a chess game.
[01:51:54.000 --> 01:51:58.000]  They make their move, you make yours.
[01:51:58.000 --> 01:52:03.000]  And as you do it more, it gets more fun, get better at it.
[01:52:03.000 --> 01:52:05.000]  Because they don't have much they do.
[01:52:05.000 --> 01:52:09.000]  They do the same things over and over.
[01:52:09.000 --> 01:52:16.000]  Once you get that down, then every every step they take, you're blocking them.
[01:52:16.000 --> 01:52:21.000]  Then they begin to realize they're out of their league.
[01:52:21.000 --> 01:52:26.000]  OK, have fun at someone else who's.
[01:52:26.000 --> 01:52:30.000]  Gotten pretty high up on the telephone.
[01:52:30.000 --> 01:52:33.000]  Chris, have you met Eric?
[01:52:33.000 --> 01:52:36.000]  Yes.
[01:52:36.000 --> 01:52:38.000]  We got Eric coming up.
[01:52:38.000 --> 01:52:41.000]  Hello, Eric.
[01:52:41.000 --> 01:52:42.000]  Gentlemen, how are we doing?
[01:52:42.000 --> 01:52:44.000]  I actually speak to Chris every now and then.
[01:52:44.000 --> 01:52:50.000]  And we communicate often over, you know, on telegram.
[01:52:50.000 --> 01:52:55.000]  I wanted you two to get together because you're both a lot alike in what you're doing.
[01:52:55.000 --> 01:52:57.000]  Both taking these guys on.
[01:52:57.000 --> 01:53:00.000]  I agree with I agree with a bunch of things.
[01:53:00.000 --> 01:53:03.000]  He kind of said tonight and I want to talk about a new case.
[01:53:03.000 --> 01:53:11.000]  But what Chris was saying is sort of what he was saying, which is what I just did, which is you file a week initial filing.
[01:53:11.000 --> 01:53:14.000]  I mean, that was his sort of strategy, I think.
[01:53:14.000 --> 01:53:19.000]  And then once it kind of gets accepted and moving, then you drop the bomb.
[01:53:19.000 --> 01:53:23.000]  So here's my case.
[01:53:23.000 --> 01:53:29.000]  I don't know that I ever spoke to you about this this case, but I've been working on it for three years.
[01:53:29.000 --> 01:53:36.000]  It's a covid case, and it's kind of unusual in that the town that I live in.
[01:53:36.000 --> 01:53:47.000]  Let's not mention that town, the town that I live in is they required a vaccination.
[01:53:47.000 --> 01:53:51.000]  So if you wanted to do any public accommodations, they required a vaccination.
[01:53:51.000 --> 01:53:54.000]  You want to go to a restaurant, you want to go work out.
[01:53:54.000 --> 01:53:59.000]  You wanted to go to, you know, some type of music event.
[01:53:59.000 --> 01:54:02.000]  They required people to have vaccination.
[01:54:02.000 --> 01:54:07.000]  And what's super interesting about there are so many elements to this case is super, super interesting.
[01:54:07.000 --> 01:54:09.000]  It's kind of a fun case.
[01:54:09.000 --> 01:54:17.000]  One of the reasons it's a fun case is that Jacobson is res due to Tata in Massachusetts.
[01:54:17.000 --> 01:54:28.000]  And the thing with Jacobson, what makes Jacobson a great a good case in Massachusetts and not every other case is that in Massachusetts on the book,
[01:54:28.000 --> 01:54:33.000]  Bill is a five dollar forfeiture.
[01:54:33.000 --> 01:54:41.000]  So Jacobson had the opportunity to take the vaccination or forfeit five dollars.
[01:54:41.000 --> 01:54:47.000]  Well, he chose to go to the Supreme Court and not forfeit five dollars.
[01:54:47.000 --> 01:54:55.000]  And what the what Scottish upheld was, no, you have to take that vaccination or pay the five dollars.
[01:54:55.000 --> 01:55:01.000]  Well, in my state, in my town, I should say, I was not given that opportunity.
[01:55:01.000 --> 01:55:04.000]  It's in the law. The law is super short.
[01:55:04.000 --> 01:55:15.000]  So on August twenty thirty seconds, thirty seconds, August twenty first, the CDC came out August twenty first or August twenty twenty one.
[01:55:16.000 --> 01:55:22.000]  The CDC came out and said the vaccination does not stop the spread.
[01:55:22.000 --> 01:55:25.000]  And that's very important. The vaccination does not stop the spread.
[01:55:25.000 --> 01:55:40.000]  OK, and the mayor of my town stated after that, in December, up until January and February, you need to have this shot to stop the spread and protect people.
[01:55:40.000 --> 01:55:42.000]  That was the primary reason.
[01:55:42.000 --> 01:55:44.000]  OK, hang on, hang on.
[01:55:44.000 --> 01:55:47.000]  Hang on, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain back.
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[01:59:14.000 --> 01:59:21.000]  When I think of the Second Amendment, I visualize myself wrapping my two arms around the Bill of Rights in a big old bear hug.
[01:59:21.000 --> 01:59:29.000]  It's how I remember that the Second Amendment guarantees us the right to bear arms, arms that embrace our freedoms and won't let anyone take them away without a fight.
[01:59:29.000 --> 01:59:32.000]  Get it? Two arms, bear hug, bear arms?
[01:59:32.000 --> 01:59:37.000]  The late Senator Hubert Humphrey captured the spirit of the Second Amendment so well when he said,
[01:59:37.000 --> 01:59:42.000]  The right of the citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary government,
[01:59:42.000 --> 01:59:49.000]  one more safeguard against the tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which historically has proved to always be possible.
[01:59:49.000 --> 01:59:54.000]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[02:00:07.000 --> 02:00:16.000]  Yeah.
[02:00:16.000 --> 02:00:20.000]  Well, I received my remedy today.
[02:00:20.000 --> 02:00:22.000]  Game in the box.
[02:00:22.000 --> 02:00:29.000]  Just like I accepted it for value right away.
[02:00:29.000 --> 02:00:31.000]  Not later.
[02:00:31.000 --> 02:00:36.000]  We are originators, and the pathway seems to get straight.
[02:00:36.000 --> 02:00:38.000]  Okay, we are back.
[02:00:38.000 --> 02:00:52.000]  Andy Kelton, Red Fountainville, our radio on this Friday, seventh day of March 2025, and we're talking to Eric Massachusetts.
[02:00:52.000 --> 02:00:54.000]  Say that right, Eric?
[02:00:54.000 --> 02:00:56.000]  You did, sure. Sounds good.
[02:00:56.000 --> 02:01:06.000]  There's one other odd word that everybody pronounces wrong, that it took Pastor Massad a month to teach me how to say.
[02:01:06.000 --> 02:01:09.000]  Worcester.
[02:01:09.000 --> 02:01:11.000]  It ends in an A though, I keep telling you that.
[02:01:11.000 --> 02:01:14.000]  Worcester, Worcester, okay, Worcester.
[02:01:14.000 --> 02:01:16.000]  I can say Worcester.
[02:01:16.000 --> 02:01:17.000]  Okay.
[02:01:17.000 --> 02:01:18.000]  Peabody's a little weird too.
[02:01:18.000 --> 02:01:21.000]  Peabody, not Peabody, Peabody.
[02:01:21.000 --> 02:01:27.000]  Okay, so let me take a quick step back and then I'll jump back.
[02:01:27.000 --> 02:01:29.000]  Something's just wrong with that.
[02:01:29.000 --> 02:01:32.000]  Yeah, I know.
[02:01:32.000 --> 02:01:37.000]  So let me sort of reframe this in sort of the big picture.
[02:01:37.000 --> 02:01:41.000]  So there's obviously been about 10,000 COVID cases nationwide.
[02:01:41.000 --> 02:01:48.000]  Primarily, they were, you know, trying to go to church.
[02:01:48.000 --> 02:01:56.000]  Most of them were probably employees, like employees who didn't want them and didn't, you know, were required and other various issues.
[02:01:56.000 --> 02:02:09.000]  I haven't been able to find where, because not many mayors did this, and obviously no states did this, where they required, you know, they basically deprived people of their rights.
[02:02:09.000 --> 02:02:14.000]  They required them to take the shot to do something.
[02:02:14.000 --> 02:02:21.000]  New York did it, and a few small towns did it, New York City, but not many did it.
[02:02:21.000 --> 02:02:25.000]  So I haven't really found any cases, and I'm really, really surprised.
[02:02:25.000 --> 02:02:28.000]  So here we are.
[02:02:28.000 --> 02:02:31.000]  As I was saying, Jacobson is res judicata.
[02:02:31.000 --> 02:02:32.000]  It's still on the book.
[02:02:32.000 --> 02:02:37.000]  I should have been able to pay a $5 forfeiture and been able to go to whatever restaurant I wanted.
[02:02:37.000 --> 02:02:47.000]  Now, what also is in the old law is that children were able to be exempted or were exempted with a doctor's note.
[02:02:47.000 --> 02:02:52.000]  The city, the town, did not do that.
[02:02:52.000 --> 02:02:55.000]  They did not allow children to be exempted.
[02:02:55.000 --> 02:02:59.000]  And this is where it starts getting really weird.
[02:02:59.000 --> 02:03:10.000]  So the employees who had employee contracts, let's say the policemen or the firemen or whatever, because of their employee contracts, some of them were exempted.
[02:03:10.000 --> 02:03:12.000]  All right, so now you have these exempted people.
[02:03:12.000 --> 02:03:27.000]  And then what they did is they copied the New York law or the New York mandate, and they didn't require, let's say, entertainers coming into town to work.
[02:03:27.000 --> 02:03:29.000]  They weren't required.
[02:03:29.000 --> 02:03:32.000]  They had an exemption.
[02:03:32.000 --> 02:03:48.000]  And so these employees of the town and these people who were visiting and entertainers, they had no way to go to a restaurant either because they couldn't show the vaccine card.
[02:03:49.000 --> 02:03:58.000]  So what the town did is they required businesses to look at your medical record, which is a vaccine card.
[02:03:58.000 --> 02:04:03.000]  They legally could have said to everybody coming in, are you vaccinated?
[02:04:03.000 --> 02:04:05.000]  And that's legal.
[02:04:05.000 --> 02:04:09.000]  But requiring to show a vaccine card is not legal.
[02:04:09.000 --> 02:04:11.000]  That's a HIPAA violation.
[02:04:11.000 --> 02:04:14.000]  And I assume that would be in 1985.
[02:04:14.000 --> 02:04:27.000]  What the city was doing, and we can circle back to that, but what the city was doing was they were requiring businesses to act as their police force.
[02:04:27.000 --> 02:04:31.000]  The city buildings didn't have to check people's vaccine cards.
[02:04:31.000 --> 02:04:32.000]  Just these businesses.
[02:04:32.000 --> 02:04:33.000]  You wanted to go work out.
[02:04:33.000 --> 02:04:35.000]  You wanted to go see a movie.
[02:04:35.000 --> 02:04:39.000]  You wanted to go eat at a restaurant.
[02:04:39.000 --> 02:04:43.000]  You have to show them your vaccine card.
[02:04:43.000 --> 02:04:51.000]  Now, what the city did know, what they did know is that their employees had a HIPAA right to privacy.
[02:04:51.000 --> 02:05:01.000]  So they set up a secure system for their employees to submit their vaccine cards electronically, all private, all HIPAA compliant.
[02:05:01.000 --> 02:05:12.000]  But what they did to me and all these other people is we were required to walk around with our medical records and to show them to anybody that asked for them.
[02:05:12.000 --> 02:05:19.000]  So they knew that the HIPAA requirements had to be, you know, you had to do it in a special way.
[02:05:19.000 --> 02:05:21.000]  But they violated that also.
[02:05:21.000 --> 02:05:23.000]  That is massive.
[02:05:23.000 --> 02:05:29.000]  Now, I just got a little bonus from the town, which I was not expecting.
[02:05:29.000 --> 02:05:39.000]  So about two months ago or a month ago, I made basically a state FOIA request, whatever it's called, records request.
[02:05:39.000 --> 02:05:48.000]  And I asked for all the written mandates from the past three mayors, maybe kind of as a way to hide what I'm looking for.
[02:05:48.000 --> 02:05:49.000]  Right.
[02:05:49.000 --> 02:05:51.000]  Basically going back like 10 years.
[02:05:51.000 --> 02:05:53.000]  Well, today I got it.
[02:05:53.000 --> 02:05:56.000]  Much to my surprise.
[02:05:56.000 --> 02:05:58.000]  And this is what I've been assuming.
[02:05:58.000 --> 02:06:00.000]  And now I have the proof.
[02:06:00.000 --> 02:06:05.000]  The mayor never signed a mandate.
[02:06:06.000 --> 02:06:10.000]  The mayor made a verbal edict.
[02:06:10.000 --> 02:06:14.000]  And that's a crime also.
[02:06:14.000 --> 02:06:16.000]  So.
[02:06:16.000 --> 02:06:20.000]  How is that a crime?
[02:06:20.000 --> 02:06:22.000]  That's interesting.
[02:06:22.000 --> 02:06:25.000]  Well, you can't say I'm right.
[02:06:25.000 --> 02:06:27.000]  I'm making a mandate, right?
[02:06:27.000 --> 02:06:31.000]  A mandate is a written document.
[02:06:31.000 --> 02:06:38.000]  You're saying he asserted or purported to assert an authority he did not have?
[02:06:38.000 --> 02:06:40.000]  Exactly.
[02:06:40.000 --> 02:06:43.000]  You have to do it in writing.
[02:06:43.000 --> 02:06:44.000]  Right.
[02:06:44.000 --> 02:06:47.000]  A policeman can't pull up and give you a verbal ticket.
[02:06:47.000 --> 02:06:52.000]  Well, you need to pay $5 to the registry next time.
[02:06:52.000 --> 02:06:53.000]  I'm not going to write this up.
[02:06:53.000 --> 02:06:55.000]  That doesn't make sense.
[02:06:55.000 --> 02:06:57.000]  A mandate has to be in writing.
[02:06:57.000 --> 02:06:59.000]  And the New York mayor did a mandate.
[02:06:59.000 --> 02:07:02.000]  And other towns did mandates like a written mandate.
[02:07:02.000 --> 02:07:04.000]  I have copies of them.
[02:07:04.000 --> 02:07:06.000]  Right?
[02:07:06.000 --> 02:07:10.000]  So if you look under Black's law, mandate is a written document.
[02:07:10.000 --> 02:07:15.000]  And the part of that, too, the governors, you know, when they make a declared emergency, that's a mandate.
[02:07:15.000 --> 02:07:16.000]  State of emergency.
[02:07:16.000 --> 02:07:18.000]  They have to declare it.
[02:07:18.000 --> 02:07:20.000]  And they have to undeclare it.
[02:07:20.000 --> 02:07:24.000]  Well, she had an obligation to undeclare it in writing.
[02:07:24.000 --> 02:07:28.000]  The mayor didn't do that either.
[02:07:28.000 --> 02:07:30.000]  Right?
[02:07:30.000 --> 02:07:34.000]  So you, I mean, there's just so many...
[02:07:34.000 --> 02:07:37.000]  So all of these people were vaccinated.
[02:07:37.000 --> 02:07:50.000]  And if it turns out that the vaccination is problematic because the mayor without authority forced all these people to get the mandates, would she be liable?
[02:07:50.000 --> 02:07:52.000]  It's also fraud.
[02:07:52.000 --> 02:07:57.000]  Fraudulent enticement.
[02:07:57.000 --> 02:08:04.000]  Because she's saying we need this to stop the spread while the CDC said it doesn't stop the spread.
[02:08:04.000 --> 02:08:07.000]  So that's fraudulent enticement.
[02:08:07.000 --> 02:08:08.000]  She said there was a mandate.
[02:08:08.000 --> 02:08:09.000]  There was no mandate.
[02:08:09.000 --> 02:08:12.000]  There was a verbal edict.
[02:08:12.000 --> 02:08:17.000]  They also created all these different classes of people.
[02:08:17.000 --> 02:08:27.000]  So you had employees who weren't required to get it, but the public was required to get it, unless you're an entertainer coming into town, and then you weren't required to get it.
[02:08:27.000 --> 02:08:30.000]  Like, it's crazy.
[02:08:30.000 --> 02:08:33.000]  And all of this verbal.
[02:08:33.000 --> 02:08:37.000]  Well, there's, I mean, well, that's actually the funny part.
[02:08:37.000 --> 02:08:43.000]  All of the rules and the regulations were written down.
[02:08:43.000 --> 02:08:45.000]  But the mandate itself never was.
[02:08:45.000 --> 02:08:51.000]  So all the rules and regulations enforcing the mandate were written down.
[02:08:51.000 --> 02:08:53.000]  Right.
[02:08:53.000 --> 02:08:57.000]  So, okay, Brett, what is that?
[02:08:57.000 --> 02:09:08.000]  You write all this stuff down, claiming that you have to do something you don't have to do.
[02:09:08.000 --> 02:09:12.000]  Simulation of legal process.
[02:09:12.000 --> 02:09:18.000]  Put it as its impersonation as well.
[02:09:18.000 --> 02:09:30.000]  Are you usurping the senators and congressmen who would be writing law?
[02:09:30.000 --> 02:09:31.000]  They're allowed to do that.
[02:09:31.000 --> 02:09:36.000]  They are allowed to write a mandate under certain circumstances.
[02:09:36.000 --> 02:09:37.000]  Right.
[02:09:37.000 --> 02:09:40.000]  But what circumstances is that?
[02:09:40.000 --> 02:09:42.000]  Well, if you have a public emergency.
[02:09:42.000 --> 02:09:45.000]  So let's say you have a measles outbreak.
[02:09:45.000 --> 02:09:46.000]  Right.
[02:09:46.000 --> 02:09:48.000]  Jacobson is res judicata.
[02:09:48.000 --> 02:09:51.000]  It's legitimate.
[02:09:51.000 --> 02:09:56.000]  You know, and they can require vaccinations under certain circumstances.
[02:09:56.000 --> 02:09:57.000]  Right.
[02:09:57.000 --> 02:10:08.000]  But another issue that I bring up in my filing is do they, are they required to, or can they
[02:10:08.000 --> 02:10:16.000]  require you to take an EUA, emergency authorized whatever.
[02:10:16.000 --> 02:10:18.000]  So it wasn't a vaccine.
[02:10:18.000 --> 02:10:20.000]  What was available was not a vaccination.
[02:10:20.000 --> 02:10:26.000]  What was available was an emergency authorized use.
[02:10:26.000 --> 02:10:29.000]  EAU or whatever.
[02:10:29.000 --> 02:10:31.000]  Emergency use authorization, EUA.
[02:10:31.000 --> 02:10:32.000]  Right.
[02:10:32.000 --> 02:10:35.000]  So can they require that?
[02:10:35.000 --> 02:10:40.000]  Can they require a medical experiment, which is what many people claimed it to be?
[02:10:40.000 --> 02:10:42.000]  Meaning, it wasn't tested.
[02:10:42.000 --> 02:10:44.000]  It was really experimental.
[02:10:44.000 --> 02:10:52.000]  During, sometime during the COVID process, they changed the rules of what a vaccination
[02:10:52.000 --> 02:10:54.000]  was and what it wasn't.
[02:10:54.000 --> 02:10:55.000]  Right.
[02:10:55.000 --> 02:10:57.000]  Because, you know, you're talking mRNA technology.
[02:10:57.000 --> 02:11:02.000]  I don't really want to get too far into the weeds on my case with that because I don't
[02:11:02.000 --> 02:11:03.000]  need to.
[02:11:03.000 --> 02:11:09.000]  You know, they've created all these classes of people and denied them access.
[02:11:09.000 --> 02:11:13.000]  And, I mean, it's absolutely crazy.
[02:11:13.000 --> 02:11:21.000]  Your issue is that she issued a verbal edict and treated it as an official mandate.
[02:11:21.000 --> 02:11:22.000]  Right.
[02:11:22.000 --> 02:11:26.000]  That's, I mean, that's one of the things that they did.
[02:11:27.000 --> 02:11:33.000]  Well, and then then sick the local businesses on the people.
[02:11:33.000 --> 02:11:37.000]  That's a 1985, right?
[02:11:37.000 --> 02:11:41.000]  Eighty-three.
[02:11:41.000 --> 02:11:47.000]  Eighty-five, say.
[02:11:47.000 --> 02:11:52.000]  So what's 85 say relative to 83?
[02:11:52.000 --> 02:11:58.000]  Eighty-five is when you get a different organization doing your dirty work.
[02:11:58.000 --> 02:12:05.000]  So if you get the police doing something for a different, you know, a different organization,
[02:12:05.000 --> 02:12:09.000]  you get a different organization doing something for the police or what have you.
[02:12:09.000 --> 02:12:14.000]  You get ICE doing police work, type of thing.
[02:12:14.000 --> 02:12:17.000]  I'll have to look that up.
[02:12:17.000 --> 02:12:20.000]  Okay, go ahead.
[02:12:20.000 --> 02:12:27.000]  So I may have talked to you about this because you mentioned depraved heart.
[02:12:27.000 --> 02:12:38.000]  So the mayor requiring children take a vaccination or an EUA without following the law, which
[02:12:38.000 --> 02:12:39.000]  allows them.
[02:12:39.000 --> 02:12:42.000]  And then that also speaks to depraved heart, I believe.
[02:12:42.000 --> 02:12:45.000]  I have to look and I have to research that a little bit more.
[02:12:45.000 --> 02:12:53.000]  But, you know, so you have fraudulent enticement, you have all these kind of other things around
[02:12:53.000 --> 02:12:54.000]  that.
[02:12:54.000 --> 02:13:00.000]  You have this mass and that HIPAA violation is massive to violate people's medical records.
[02:13:00.000 --> 02:13:02.000]  That's massive.
[02:13:02.000 --> 02:13:10.000]  I think that's up to a hundred million dollar fine, which may sound crazy, but that's it
[02:13:10.000 --> 02:13:11.000]  is.
[02:13:11.000 --> 02:13:12.000]  So you can pursue that.
[02:13:12.000 --> 02:13:16.000]  Can you pursue that QATAM?
[02:13:16.000 --> 02:13:23.000]  Well, no, I was affected by that.
[02:13:23.000 --> 02:13:26.000]  Why would it have to be QATAM?
[02:13:26.000 --> 02:13:39.000]  Well, QATAM is a type of a private attorney general suit, except under QATAM you can push
[02:13:39.000 --> 02:13:43.000]  to enforce legal sanctions.
[02:13:43.000 --> 02:13:49.000]  You can get the government to go in and sanction these people and you get a part of what they
[02:13:49.000 --> 02:13:50.000]  sanction them for.
[02:13:50.000 --> 02:13:56.000]  Hang on, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Wheel of Law Radio, we'll be right back.
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[02:30:21.000 --> 02:30:48.000]  I won't let you pull the wool over my eyes
[02:30:48.000 --> 02:30:51.000]  I simply must refuse
[02:30:51.000 --> 02:30:53.000]  Okay, we are back!
[02:30:53.000 --> 02:30:56.000]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rue of La Radio
[02:30:56.000 --> 02:31:01.000]  on this Friday the 7th day of March 2025
[02:31:01.000 --> 02:31:03.000]  We've got two empty slots on the caller board
[02:31:03.000 --> 02:31:05.000]  so if you've got a question or comment
[02:31:05.000 --> 02:31:06.000]  give us a call
[02:31:06.000 --> 02:31:10.000]  512-646-1984
[02:31:10.000 --> 02:31:15.000]  and we're talking to Eric in Massachusetts
[02:31:15.000 --> 02:31:18.000]  Okay, Eric
[02:31:18.000 --> 02:31:24.000]  So, regarding the QATAM
[02:31:24.000 --> 02:31:25.000]  what do you have to do?
[02:31:25.000 --> 02:31:29.000]  give the federal attorney general
[02:31:29.000 --> 02:31:31.000]  I don't know, a 30 day notice or something
[02:31:31.000 --> 02:31:32.000]  or how does that work?
[02:31:32.000 --> 02:31:33.000]  Any ideas?
[02:31:33.000 --> 02:31:35.000]  I don't know, I've never done a QATAM
[02:31:35.000 --> 02:31:38.000]  so I'd have to research it
[02:31:38.000 --> 02:31:41.000]  I have a QATAM from Robert Barnes
[02:31:41.000 --> 02:31:43.000]  that I'll drop in the page
[02:31:43.000 --> 02:31:48.000]  Regarding Brooks Jackson, again another COVID case
[02:31:48.000 --> 02:31:53.000]  so I can drop that in there
[02:31:53.000 --> 02:31:55.000]  for people to look at it
[02:31:55.000 --> 02:31:59.000]  but it's the same as an X-RAL basically
[02:31:59.000 --> 02:32:03.000]  it's just another case
[02:32:03.000 --> 02:32:09.000]  Let's see, what other questions do I have here?
[02:32:09.000 --> 02:32:11.000]  So one of the things I'm doing
[02:32:11.000 --> 02:32:13.000]  is I'm kind of dragging the service out
[02:32:13.000 --> 02:32:15.000]  like actually serving it
[02:32:15.000 --> 02:32:17.000]  so I kind of did what maybe Chris was thinking
[02:32:17.000 --> 02:32:19.000]  I made a bare bones
[02:32:19.000 --> 02:32:21.000]  I was pressed for time
[02:32:21.000 --> 02:32:23.000]  I made a bare bones filing
[02:32:23.000 --> 02:32:26.000]  kind of laid it all out very simply
[02:32:26.000 --> 02:32:29.000]  and now I'm going to circle back
[02:32:29.000 --> 02:32:33.000]  and make it a much larger amended pleading
[02:32:33.000 --> 02:32:36.000]  which I will include with criminal complaints
[02:32:36.000 --> 02:32:39.000]  criminal complaints
[02:32:39.000 --> 02:32:42.000]  maybe an ask for
[02:32:42.000 --> 02:32:45.000]  an empatement of a grand jury
[02:32:45.000 --> 02:32:49.000]  I guess maybe I can look at QATAM
[02:32:49.000 --> 02:32:54.000]  What advice do you have on the
[02:32:54.000 --> 02:32:56.000]  I guess you said you weren't real sure
[02:32:56.000 --> 02:33:00.000]  about the 1985 aspect
[02:33:00.000 --> 02:33:04.000]  I was reading that over the last break
[02:33:04.000 --> 02:33:06.000]  and it seemed, I didn't get it all read
[02:33:06.000 --> 02:33:10.000]  but it seemed like it went to a somewhat different issue
[02:33:10.000 --> 02:33:12.000]  Let's see
[02:33:12.000 --> 02:33:16.000]  There's also something in 1985 parentheses 3
[02:33:16.000 --> 02:33:18.000]  you know like section 3 or something
[02:33:18.000 --> 02:33:20.000]  I've seen that
[02:33:20.000 --> 02:33:23.000]  and that kind of confuses me
[02:33:23.000 --> 02:33:25.000]  So
[02:33:25.000 --> 02:33:27.000]  I just looked up QATAM
[02:33:27.000 --> 02:33:30.000]  filing a QATAM suit involves several steps
[02:33:30.000 --> 02:33:33.000]  First, the whistleblower must file a civil complaint
[02:33:33.000 --> 02:33:35.000]  under seal with the court
[02:33:35.000 --> 02:33:38.000]  and serve a copy of the complaint
[02:33:38.000 --> 02:33:41.000]  and a written disclosure of substantially all material
[02:33:41.000 --> 02:33:43.000]  evidence and information
[02:33:43.000 --> 02:33:46.000]  possessed by the relator on both the attorney general
[02:33:46.000 --> 02:33:51.000]  and the United States attorney
[02:33:51.000 --> 02:33:55.000]  pursuant to federal rule of civil procedure 4
[02:33:55.000 --> 02:33:58.000]  Government then investigates the allegations
[02:33:58.000 --> 02:34:01.000]  and decides whether to intervene in the case
[02:34:01.000 --> 02:34:04.000]  If the government intervenes, it takes primary control over the case
[02:34:04.000 --> 02:34:07.000]  but the whistleblower and their attorneys still participate
[02:34:07.000 --> 02:34:10.000]  If the government declines to intervene
[02:34:10.000 --> 02:34:15.000]  the whistleblower can proceed with the case independently
[02:34:15.000 --> 02:34:20.000]  and there's more but that's basically how it's done
[02:34:20.000 --> 02:34:22.000]  Okay
[02:34:22.000 --> 02:34:28.000]  The federal government is not real happy with my mayor right now
[02:34:29.000 --> 02:34:35.000]  My mayor was in congress recently answering questions
[02:34:35.000 --> 02:34:41.000]  Oh, are you sanctuary city stuff?
[02:34:41.000 --> 02:34:43.000]  Yeah
[02:34:43.000 --> 02:34:45.000]  So
[02:34:45.000 --> 02:34:50.000]  Tom Holman would love to get a piece of my mayor
[02:34:50.000 --> 02:34:56.000]  If you know who he is, he's the immigration czar
[02:34:56.000 --> 02:34:58.000]  Yeah, oh yeah
[02:34:58.000 --> 02:35:00.000]  That guy's tough
[02:35:00.000 --> 02:35:02.000]  I like that guy
[02:35:02.000 --> 02:35:11.000]  He reminds me of the super sergeants in the military
[02:35:11.000 --> 02:35:13.000]  The guys I really liked
[02:35:13.000 --> 02:35:17.000]  They were just like him, rough and gruff
[02:35:17.000 --> 02:35:22.000]  but always had your back
[02:35:22.000 --> 02:35:24.000]  Yeah
[02:35:24.000 --> 02:35:26.000]  That's kind of what we need
[02:35:26.000 --> 02:35:28.000]  So that's basically this case
[02:35:28.000 --> 02:35:32.000]  and again, it's a pretty fun, interesting case
[02:35:32.000 --> 02:35:38.000]  just because, you know, again, you have Jacobson
[02:35:38.000 --> 02:35:40.000]  as residue to Kata
[02:35:40.000 --> 02:35:43.000]  and you have all these different, you know, they created all these different classes of people
[02:35:43.000 --> 02:35:48.000]  and you have, you know, the employees have a secure HIPAA process
[02:35:48.000 --> 02:35:51.000]  but individuals don't have that
[02:35:51.000 --> 02:35:55.000]  You know, they just created a giant mess is what they did
[02:35:55.000 --> 02:35:58.000]  and for what reason, we really don't know
[02:35:58.000 --> 02:36:02.000]  Why did they do this?
[02:36:02.000 --> 02:36:06.000]  There was, they didn't, you know, they're claiming that to stop the spread
[02:36:06.000 --> 02:36:12.000]  but the CDC said it doesn't stop the, or the CDC said it doesn't stop the spread
[02:36:12.000 --> 02:36:15.000]  So I'm almost like wondering, like, why did they do this?
[02:36:15.000 --> 02:36:18.000]  Why were they so, you know, pushing this so heavy?
[02:36:18.000 --> 02:36:21.000]  Part of it was political too, because
[02:36:21.000 --> 02:36:24.000]  I think all of it was political
[02:36:24.000 --> 02:36:29.000]  When I filed the complaints against the governor
[02:36:29.000 --> 02:36:31.000]  I got it
[02:36:31.000 --> 02:36:34.000]  He's the governor, this pandemic comes along
[02:36:34.000 --> 02:36:38.000]  and it's the screaming doom and gloom
[02:36:38.000 --> 02:36:41.000]  He's got to do something
[02:36:41.000 --> 02:36:44.000]  So he don't know what to do, but he's got to do something
[02:36:44.000 --> 02:36:47.000]  look like he's trying to protect his people
[02:36:47.000 --> 02:36:50.000]  So he did something
[02:36:50.000 --> 02:36:55.000]  He didn't have the right to do it, but it was an emergency
[02:36:55.000 --> 02:36:59.000]  So he did something
[02:36:59.000 --> 02:37:01.000]  I get it
[02:37:01.000 --> 02:37:05.000]  The mayor, you know, got to do something to protect my people
[02:37:05.000 --> 02:37:10.000]  If people start dropping dead and it looks like I'm not doing anything
[02:37:10.000 --> 02:37:12.000]  They're going to throw me out
[02:37:12.000 --> 02:37:15.000]  So I do something
[02:37:15.000 --> 02:37:21.000]  Yeah, well, I don't know that doing it the wrong way is the right way, but
[02:37:21.000 --> 02:37:27.000]  Well, they were probably thinking, it's better I do something wrong than not do anything at all
[02:37:27.000 --> 02:37:30.000]  At least it looks like I'm trying to help
[02:37:30.000 --> 02:37:33.000]  Man, that's pretty rough
[02:37:33.000 --> 02:37:37.000]  Not when you're dealing with children's lives and other people's lives
[02:37:37.000 --> 02:37:40.000]  and deprivation of rights
[02:37:41.000 --> 02:37:47.000]  You know, especially again, you know that you're required to put all this stuff securely
[02:37:47.000 --> 02:37:51.000]  Again, if they had just merely said, hey, when you go to that restaurant
[02:37:51.000 --> 02:37:56.000]  You have to confirm verbally, yes, I did get the vaccination
[02:37:56.000 --> 02:37:59.000]  And they would have been okay
[02:37:59.000 --> 02:38:02.000]  There wouldn't have been any problem
[02:38:02.000 --> 02:38:06.000]  But they didn't do that
[02:38:06.000 --> 02:38:10.000]  Big, big breach, big, big difference
[02:38:10.000 --> 02:38:11.000]  So
[02:38:11.000 --> 02:38:14.000]  Good, they need to be hammered
[02:38:14.000 --> 02:38:15.000]  Yeah
[02:38:15.000 --> 02:38:16.000]  Make sure this doesn't happen again
[02:38:16.000 --> 02:38:22.000]  That was the point of my 250 page criminal complaint against the governor
[02:38:22.000 --> 02:38:27.000]  Yeah, I get it that was an emergency and you felt like you had to do something
[02:38:27.000 --> 02:38:33.000]  But even in an emergency, you don't get to bypass my constitution
[02:38:33.000 --> 02:38:38.000]  And that's what the courts eventually ruled
[02:38:38.000 --> 02:38:41.000]  It's really frustrating, I'm sure Chris is sort of there too
[02:38:41.000 --> 02:38:43.000]  And you guys are too
[02:38:43.000 --> 02:38:49.000]  Where you have, you know, a just know nothing mayor
[02:38:49.000 --> 02:38:53.000]  Playing God with people's lives
[02:38:53.000 --> 02:38:56.000]  This is crazy
[02:38:56.000 --> 02:39:01.000]  You know, these are not even the government, they're a municipality
[02:39:01.000 --> 02:39:04.000]  Right? I mean, they're just a corporation
[02:39:04.000 --> 02:39:08.000]  It's absolutely crazy to me that
[02:39:08.000 --> 02:39:11.000]  Well, the mayor doesn't think of herself that way
[02:39:11.000 --> 02:39:16.000]  She thinks it's her job to take care of all of her people
[02:39:16.000 --> 02:39:18.000]  And
[02:39:18.000 --> 02:39:27.000]  What I saw is that all of these governors and all these mayors were used by the drug companies
[02:39:27.000 --> 02:39:31.000]  They set up this elaborate hoax
[02:39:31.000 --> 02:39:35.000]  To promote this worthless product
[02:39:35.000 --> 02:39:42.000]  And they put these politicians in a position to where they felt like they had to protect people that
[02:39:42.000 --> 02:39:44.000]  Their constituents, the ones that voted them in
[02:39:44.000 --> 02:39:46.000]  I get their problems
[02:39:46.000 --> 02:39:50.000]  I get the situation they're in, but
[02:39:50.000 --> 02:39:52.000]  We need to let them know
[02:39:52.000 --> 02:39:58.000]  We have a constitution, we have laws, and you are to follow them
[02:39:58.000 --> 02:40:01.000]  We've had these laws for a couple hundred years
[02:40:01.000 --> 02:40:09.000]  And these laws were based on laws that the British had that we adopted
[02:40:09.000 --> 02:40:11.000]  Back to ten hundred A.D.
[02:40:11.000 --> 02:40:15.000]  And those laws were based on the Greek laws
[02:40:15.000 --> 02:40:19.000]  And the Greek laws were based on the law of Hanarabi
[02:40:19.000 --> 02:40:25.000]  So we've had these laws for some five thousand years
[02:40:25.000 --> 02:40:29.000]  This is not the first pandemic
[02:40:29.000 --> 02:40:34.000]  And if we needed special laws for the pandemic, they'd have been in here
[02:40:34.000 --> 02:40:38.000]  We had one in 19, was it 11 or 18?
[02:40:38.000 --> 02:40:40.000]  Spanish Flu
[02:40:40.000 --> 02:40:42.000]  And we don't need any more laws
[02:40:42.000 --> 02:40:47.000]  We don't need you guys doing stuff that's outside the law to protect the people
[02:40:47.000 --> 02:40:49.000]  Follow my code
[02:40:51.000 --> 02:40:54.000]  Okay, I'm preaching here
[02:40:54.000 --> 02:40:58.000]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, We Love Radio, we'll be right back
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[02:43:32.000 --> 02:43:38.000]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio, and we're talking to Eric in Massachusetts
[02:43:38.000 --> 02:43:43.000]  I was reading 1985 and
[02:43:43.000 --> 02:43:48.000]  I'll have to study these to figure out the difference between
[02:43:48.000 --> 02:43:56.000]  241, 242, and 1983 and 1985
[02:43:56.000 --> 02:44:03.000]  It looks like 1985 is the remedy for 18 U.S. Code 241
[02:44:03.000 --> 02:44:08.000]  Yeah, Title 18 is the crime
[02:44:08.000 --> 02:44:15.000]  So Title 42 would be us suing for deprivation of civil rights
[02:44:15.000 --> 02:44:23.000]  and we can reference that commission of a crime as being objectively unreasonable
[02:44:26.000 --> 02:44:35.000]  If two or more persons in any state or territory conspire to deter by force, intimidation, or threat
[02:44:35.000 --> 02:44:41.000]  any party or witness in any court of the United States from attending such court
[02:44:41.000 --> 02:44:46.000]  or from testifying to any matter pending therein freely, fully, and truthfully
[02:44:46.000 --> 02:44:52.000]  or to injure such party or witness in his person or property on account of his
[02:44:52.000 --> 02:44:59.000]  having so attended or testified or to influence the verdict, presentment, or indictment
[02:44:59.000 --> 02:45:04.000]  of any grand pettit or any other court or two
[02:45:04.000 --> 02:45:09.000]  That is a pretty long sentence, but you could
[02:45:09.000 --> 02:45:14.000]  I was only halfway through it
[02:45:14.000 --> 02:45:19.000]  These guys need to figure out what periods are for
[02:45:19.000 --> 02:45:26.000]  I think this goes back closer to 1983
[02:45:26.000 --> 02:45:30.000]  I can look at it
[02:45:30.000 --> 02:45:39.000]  I just felt if somebody is acting on behalf of a 1983 violation for a government agency
[02:45:39.000 --> 02:45:43.000]  they're participating in 1985
[02:45:43.000 --> 02:45:47.000]  That's how I understood it, but I'll look at that closer
[02:45:47.000 --> 02:45:52.000]  You might be right, because 1983 is specifically for state actors
[02:45:57.000 --> 02:46:02.000]  I'm looking at the file under seal as a part of QUITAM
[02:46:02.000 --> 02:46:05.000]  I may have screwed that up
[02:46:05.000 --> 02:46:11.000]  because I did not file it under seal
[02:46:11.000 --> 02:46:16.000]  That'll only be a problem if somebody makes it a problem
[02:46:18.000 --> 02:46:23.000]  I was surprised to see that under seal
[02:46:23.000 --> 02:46:30.000]  I could file my amended version under seal
[02:46:30.000 --> 02:46:37.000]  I would want to look at that a little closer to see what that under seal applies to
[02:46:37.000 --> 02:46:42.000]  This is a whistleblower statute, so if someone's a whistleblower
[02:46:42.000 --> 02:46:47.000]  They will likely want to be anonymous
[02:46:47.000 --> 02:46:51.000]  In order to do that, they would file this under seal
[02:46:51.000 --> 02:46:57.000]  so it's not broadcast to the people he's blowing the whistle on
[02:46:57.000 --> 02:47:09.000]  It says false claim act 31 USC section 3729 through 3733
[02:47:10.000 --> 02:47:13.000]  So that's what the QUITAMs are under
[02:47:16.000 --> 02:47:18.000]  What was that again?
[02:47:18.000 --> 02:47:31.000]  31 USC section 3729 through 3733
[02:47:31.000 --> 02:47:35.000]  It gives the government time to investigate
[02:47:39.000 --> 02:47:46.000]  After thinking about it, I get the under seal part
[02:47:46.000 --> 02:47:52.000]  Yours wouldn't apply to that, because while you're whistleblowing
[02:47:52.000 --> 02:48:01.000]  You're whistleblowing about something that everybody could see, but didn't get
[02:48:04.000 --> 02:48:08.000]  Everybody saw it happen, but didn't recognize the problem with it
[02:48:08.000 --> 02:48:12.000]  Right, I'm the one who recognized it, but it was out in the open
[02:48:12.000 --> 02:48:15.000]  There's nothing confidential here
[02:48:18.000 --> 02:48:23.000]  So I'm the one who looked at it and said, this is a HIPAA violation
[02:48:23.000 --> 02:48:26.000]  Somebody needs to do something about this
[02:48:31.000 --> 02:48:34.000]  What did you say, Brad?
[02:48:34.000 --> 02:48:39.000]  I'm just saying that makes sense, that the way that you're looking at it
[02:48:39.000 --> 02:48:42.000]  As a whistleblower, but it's out in the open
[02:48:46.000 --> 02:48:50.000]  It's kind of like what I'm doing, what Brad and I are doing
[02:48:50.000 --> 02:48:55.000]  About filing criminal complaints against public officials
[02:48:55.000 --> 02:49:00.000]  This is part of what I was talking about with Chris
[02:49:00.000 --> 02:49:04.000]  He had a pretty good civil case, now he's in criminal
[02:49:04.000 --> 02:49:11.000]  And he's still got that idea about how things work
[02:49:11.000 --> 02:49:16.000]  Police and courts, they tell us how things work
[02:49:16.000 --> 02:49:22.000]  And nobody takes a step back and says, well, are they telling me right?
[02:49:22.000 --> 02:49:28.000]  And with what I've been doing, what Brad and I have been doing
[02:49:28.000 --> 02:49:32.000]  They're doing everything wrong
[02:49:32.000 --> 02:49:35.000]  Everybody's doing everything wrong
[02:49:35.000 --> 02:49:39.000]  And all these people are dealing with it and being sucked in by it
[02:49:39.000 --> 02:49:46.000]  But they see it happen and it never comes to mind to question them about
[02:49:46.000 --> 02:49:49.000]  Is that right or not? Are they following law or not?
[02:49:49.000 --> 02:49:52.000]  We just presume everybody's following law
[02:49:52.000 --> 02:49:56.000]  Everybody presumed that this mayor could do this thing
[02:49:56.000 --> 02:50:03.000]  And it took Eric to realize the mayor had no clothes
[02:50:03.000 --> 02:50:09.000]  I just find that so often that that's the case
[02:50:09.000 --> 02:50:14.000]  You read the laws and I have two or three cases like that
[02:50:14.000 --> 02:50:18.000]  I read the law and I'm like, this is not what it says
[02:50:18.000 --> 02:50:21.000]  How is this happening?
[02:50:22.000 --> 02:50:26.000]  So I just don't get it
[02:50:26.000 --> 02:50:30.000]  How these people fall so far astray
[02:50:30.000 --> 02:50:34.000]  I guess they just want it so badly they just don't care
[02:50:34.000 --> 02:50:38.000]  I have a son-in-law who's a JP
[02:50:38.000 --> 02:50:44.000]  And I showed him all the law after he got elected before he took office
[02:50:44.000 --> 02:50:47.000]  And then he went down and took his training
[02:50:47.000 --> 02:50:50.000]  And he does it precisely the way he was trained to do
[02:50:50.000 --> 02:50:56.000]  It never occurred to him to ask a question
[02:50:56.000 --> 02:50:59.000]  And say, whoa, wait, wait, wait
[02:50:59.000 --> 02:51:04.000]  You're saying do this, but the law clearly says to do this other
[02:51:04.000 --> 02:51:07.000]  He went along to get along
[02:51:07.000 --> 02:51:09.000]  That's what people do
[02:51:09.000 --> 02:51:10.000]  I think most people do that
[02:51:10.000 --> 02:51:13.000]  They just don't have the capacity to
[02:51:13.000 --> 02:51:15.000]  They just assume it must be right
[02:51:15.000 --> 02:51:17.000]  That's what everybody's doing
[02:51:17.000 --> 02:51:26.000]  And it may be that each one of those people have capacity in a place you and I don't
[02:51:26.000 --> 02:51:30.000]  They're focused other places
[02:51:30.000 --> 02:51:33.000]  That's the good thing about a republic
[02:51:33.000 --> 02:51:38.000]  If we had a monarch, a monarch might miss a lot of this stuff
[02:51:38.000 --> 02:51:42.000]  He could only pay attention to what he can pay attention to
[02:51:42.000 --> 02:51:49.000]  But when you got a whole country of people who are monarchs in their own right
[02:51:49.000 --> 02:51:52.000]  Then theoretically we shouldn't miss anything
[02:51:52.000 --> 02:51:56.000]  But it is the nature of the human animal
[02:51:56.000 --> 02:52:03.000]  To do things the way they've always done things because that's how they've always done things
[02:52:03.000 --> 02:52:06.000]  I have a question here
[02:52:06.000 --> 02:52:07.000]  I want to back the bus up
[02:52:07.000 --> 02:52:10.000]  I think this is a good topic discussion here
[02:52:10.000 --> 02:52:13.000]  So let's go back to X-REL versus QUITAM
[02:52:13.000 --> 02:52:19.000]  I think maybe all three of us are in agreement that this isn't a QUITAM because there's nothing whistle blowing
[02:52:19.000 --> 02:52:22.000]  There's no hidden information
[02:52:22.000 --> 02:52:25.000]  Well it actually is
[02:52:25.000 --> 02:52:28.000]  It's not really X-REL because you're suing
[02:52:28.000 --> 02:52:35.000]  This would be more like a private attorney general if not X-REL
[02:52:35.000 --> 02:52:38.000]  X-REL is you're suing in everybody else's
[02:52:38.000 --> 02:52:45.000]  On somebody's behalf where you otherwise would not have standing
[02:52:45.000 --> 02:52:48.000]  So this is private attorney general
[02:52:48.000 --> 02:52:55.000]  So you're suing for all these others but you also have individuals standing
[02:52:55.000 --> 02:52:59.000]  Right I mean I think it's X-REL attorney general X-REL
[02:52:59.000 --> 02:53:05.000]  As opposed to QUITAM whistle blower case
[02:53:05.000 --> 02:53:07.000]  I just don't think it's a whistle blower
[02:53:07.000 --> 02:53:09.000]  I think it's just an attorney general
[02:53:09.000 --> 02:53:10.000]  But let's not argue that
[02:53:10.000 --> 02:53:13.000]  Let's go back to who do I need to serve
[02:53:13.000 --> 02:53:18.000]  Let's just say it's a normal X-REL like I think it is attorney general X-REL
[02:53:18.000 --> 02:53:21.000]  Who do I need to serve?
[02:53:21.000 --> 02:53:24.000]  Who are you suing?
[02:53:24.000 --> 02:53:26.000]  No forgive me
[02:53:26.000 --> 02:53:33.000]  To make it an X-REL case you have to give the government an opportunity to take your role
[02:53:33.000 --> 02:53:35.000]  Take your position or not
[02:53:35.000 --> 02:53:38.000]  So you have to present it to the attorney general
[02:53:38.000 --> 02:53:41.000]  Do you take this case on?
[02:53:41.000 --> 02:53:47.000]  So in this case I have both state issues and I have federal issues
[02:53:47.000 --> 02:53:51.000]  Do I have to serve both of them and give them 60 days or whatever?
[02:53:51.000 --> 02:53:55.000]  No if you have state issues and federal issues
[02:53:55.000 --> 02:53:59.000]  The state issue it will be heard in the fed
[02:53:59.000 --> 02:54:04.000]  And the state issues will be heard in the fed as well
[02:54:04.000 --> 02:54:06.000]  The federal issues
[02:54:06.000 --> 02:54:08.000]  Let me explain how this works
[02:54:08.000 --> 02:54:12.000]  If I file a suit in the state court
[02:54:12.000 --> 02:54:17.000]  And I include federal claims in that suit
[02:54:17.000 --> 02:54:23.000]  The defendant has the option of removing it to the federal court
[02:54:23.000 --> 02:54:27.000]  Because of the federal question or diversity jurisdiction
[02:54:27.000 --> 02:54:30.000]  Or whatever gives it federal jurisdiction
[02:54:30.000 --> 02:54:33.000]  If the other party chooses not to remove it
[02:54:33.000 --> 02:54:39.000]  Then the state court can adjudicate both the state and the federal issues
[02:54:39.000 --> 02:54:44.000]  If the opposing party removes it to the federal court
[02:54:44.000 --> 02:54:51.000]  Then the federal court because the federal law predominates over state law
[02:54:51.000 --> 02:54:57.000]  They can rule on the federal law and drag the state law with it that's intrinsically connected
[02:54:58.000 --> 02:55:01.000]  So that it's all done in one hearing
[02:55:01.000 --> 02:55:05.000]  The feds can rule on the federal and the state law
[02:55:05.000 --> 02:55:07.000]  Does that make sense?
[02:55:07.000 --> 02:55:12.000]  It does but I don't think you understood my question and I don't think you answered it
[02:55:12.000 --> 02:55:15.000]  I do that often
[02:55:15.000 --> 02:55:19.000]  It's one of my greater skills
[02:55:19.000 --> 02:55:23.000]  Okay
[02:55:24.000 --> 02:55:26.000]  Brett Fountain rule of law radio
[02:55:26.000 --> 02:55:29.000]  We've got one more caller on the board
[02:55:29.000 --> 02:55:32.000]  And one hour
[02:55:32.000 --> 02:55:37.000]  And Roger he's generally traffic
[02:55:37.000 --> 02:55:38.000]  He doesn't take too long
[02:55:38.000 --> 02:55:41.000]  Probably handle one more caller
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[02:57:01.000 --> 02:57:05.000]  The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution
[02:57:05.000 --> 02:57:08.000]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect
[02:57:08.000 --> 02:57:10.000]  Our liberty depends on it
[02:57:10.000 --> 02:57:16.000]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember one of your constitutional rights
[02:57:16.000 --> 02:57:18.000]  Privacy is under attack
[02:57:18.000 --> 02:57:21.000]  When you give up data about yourself you'll never get it back again
[02:57:21.000 --> 02:57:26.000]  And once your privacy is gone you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too
[02:57:26.000 --> 02:57:31.000]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance and keep your information to yourself
[02:57:31.000 --> 02:57:34.000]  Privacy, it's worth hanging on to
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[02:57:45.000 --> 02:57:48.000]  Imagine your mom and dad are getting ready for bed
[02:57:48.000 --> 02:57:51.000]  They pull back the covers and find a third party there
[02:57:51.000 --> 02:57:54.000]  He announces, I'm with the military and I'm sleeping here tonight
[02:57:54.000 --> 02:58:00.000]  That shocking image of a third party in my parents' bed reminds me what the third amendment was designed to prevent
[02:58:00.000 --> 02:58:03.000]  It protects us from being forced to share our homes with soldiers
[02:58:03.000 --> 02:58:06.000]  A common demand in the days of our founding fathers
[02:58:06.000 --> 02:58:08.000]  Third party, third amendment, get it?
[02:58:08.000 --> 02:58:12.000]  So if you answer a knock at your door and guys in fatigues demand lodging
[02:58:12.000 --> 02:58:16.000]  Tell them to dust off their copy of the Bill of Rights and re-read the third amendment
[02:58:16.000 --> 02:58:21.000]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, more news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com
[02:58:31.000 --> 02:58:35.000]  The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution
[02:58:35.000 --> 02:58:38.000]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect
[02:58:38.000 --> 02:58:40.000]  Our liberty depends on it
[02:58:40.000 --> 02:58:46.000]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember one of your constitutional rights
[02:58:46.000 --> 02:58:48.000]  Privacy is under attack
[02:58:48.000 --> 02:58:52.000]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again
[02:58:52.000 --> 02:58:56.000]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too
[02:58:56.000 --> 02:59:01.000]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself
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[02:59:15.000 --> 02:59:21.000]  Imagine four eyes staring at you through binoculars, a magnifying glass, or a pair of x-ray goggles
[02:59:21.000 --> 02:59:27.000]  That imagery reminds me that the Fourth Amendment guarantees Americans freedom from unreasonable search and seizure
[02:59:27.000 --> 02:59:30.000]  Fourth Amendment? Four eyes staring at you? Get it?
[02:59:30.000 --> 02:59:34.000]  Unfortunately, the government is trampling our Fourth Amendment rights in the name of security
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[02:59:39.000 --> 02:59:46.000]  When government employees demand a peep at your privates without probable cause, I say it's time to sound the constitutional alarm bells
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[03:00:16.000 --> 03:00:28.000]  I will lie by my father's house until he returns
[03:00:28.000 --> 03:00:36.000]  I will lie by my father's house until he has left me with the strength and wisdom
[03:00:36.000 --> 03:00:43.000]  I will lie by my father's house until he has left me with the strength and wisdom
[03:00:43.000 --> 03:00:54.000]  I will lie by my father's house until I see his face
[03:00:54.000 --> 03:01:05.000]  I will guard these walls and fences like arms take his place
[03:01:06.000 --> 03:01:09.000]  Like a thief in the night to show the father enter
[03:01:09.000 --> 03:01:11.000]  Kiss all the parasites from around ya
[03:01:11.000 --> 03:01:14.000]  Tee-dee-fee-blee-la-ya and he the murderer
[03:01:14.000 --> 03:01:17.000]  Kiss him up the house because they cannot enter
[03:01:17.000 --> 03:01:19.000]  You are in part that cleans hands only
[03:01:19.000 --> 03:01:24.000]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rue La Radio
[03:01:24.000 --> 03:01:27.000]  And we took a little time coming in because
[03:01:27.000 --> 03:01:34.000]  Eddie, uh, Brett and I were talking about Fonstock clips
[03:01:34.000 --> 03:01:38.000]  Okay, we're talking to Eric in Massachusetts
[03:01:38.000 --> 03:01:42.000]  That was sufficiently cryptic
[03:01:42.000 --> 03:01:50.000]  Okay, on the break we were talking about X-Rail
[03:01:50.000 --> 03:01:56.000]  You can't do this X-Rail because you've been harmed by it
[03:01:56.000 --> 03:02:01.000]  I would sue X-Rail for my son
[03:02:01.000 --> 03:02:05.000]  The guardian would sue X-Rail for his charge
[03:02:05.000 --> 03:02:11.000]  The attorney general would sue X-Rail for the citizens
[03:02:11.000 --> 03:02:19.000]  You would sue in your own behalf and in the behalf of all others similarly situated
[03:02:19.000 --> 03:02:25.000]  That would put you in a private attorney general
[03:02:25.000 --> 03:02:33.000]  But since you're talking about what these government officials did
[03:02:33.000 --> 03:02:39.000]  You're right, I don't think you can get to Kwaitam
[03:02:39.000 --> 03:02:43.000]  You're right, it's not insider information
[03:02:43.000 --> 03:02:45.000]  You're just the one that figured it out
[03:02:45.000 --> 03:02:48.000]  Well, does it have to be insider information?
[03:02:48.000 --> 03:02:53.000]  Is it just the one who brings the thing to light and says
[03:02:53.000 --> 03:02:58.000]  Hey, this is a problem, it's not necessarily a secret
[03:02:58.000 --> 03:03:00.000]  That's what it's intended for
[03:03:00.000 --> 03:03:08.000]  It's intended for someone who has private knowledge about an organization
[03:03:08.000 --> 03:03:13.000]  They can bring that knowledge Kwaitam to the government
[03:03:13.000 --> 03:03:20.000]  And they bring it sealed because as a whistleblower they stay anonymous
[03:03:20.000 --> 03:03:24.000]  But if the government doesn't pick it up
[03:03:24.000 --> 03:03:27.000]  They can no longer be anonymous
[03:03:27.000 --> 03:03:34.000]  They would have to sue themselves and then find out who they were
[03:03:40.000 --> 03:03:47.000]  It's about protecting the plaintiff, the one bringing the knowledge
[03:03:47.000 --> 03:03:54.000]  I thought it was just more about bringing an action on the government's behalf
[03:03:54.000 --> 03:03:56.000]  Both are
[03:03:56.000 --> 03:04:00.000]  Yeah, essentially both are
[03:04:00.000 --> 03:04:04.000]  Well, not necessarily
[03:04:04.000 --> 03:04:09.000]  If I've got an insurance company out here that's screwing everybody
[03:04:09.000 --> 03:04:13.000]  I can do a private attorney general suit
[03:04:13.000 --> 03:04:17.000]  A private attorney general is where one person is harmed
[03:04:17.000 --> 03:04:26.000]  But not in so great amount that would make it worth the expense of a protracted lawsuit
[03:04:26.000 --> 03:04:33.000]  Like a $350 traffic ticket that you were illegally received
[03:04:33.000 --> 03:04:36.000]  That they're doing it to everybody
[03:04:36.000 --> 03:04:41.000]  And $350 is easier just to pay the ticket
[03:04:41.000 --> 03:04:44.000]  Until you get some ornery son of a gun come along
[03:04:44.000 --> 03:04:49.000]  And he decides that this is his fight and he wants to fix it
[03:04:49.000 --> 03:04:53.000]  Then he can sue for everybody that's been harmed
[03:04:53.000 --> 03:04:59.000]  And it's not like a class action where everybody is a party
[03:04:59.000 --> 03:05:05.000]  He sues on their behalf but everybody else is not a party to the suit
[03:05:05.000 --> 03:05:08.000]  So anything he collects he gets to keep
[03:05:08.000 --> 03:05:14.000]  And that's to make it worthwhile for him to file the suit
[03:05:14.000 --> 03:05:17.000]  Okay, does that all make sense?
[03:05:17.000 --> 03:05:23.000]  Yeah, I still think that a private attorney general lawsuit is an X-reel
[03:05:23.000 --> 03:05:26.000]  So the same thing
[03:05:26.000 --> 03:05:33.000]  So I just dropped a chart in the law group that sort of goes over it
[03:05:33.000 --> 03:05:36.000]  Again, it's still a little confusing
[03:05:36.000 --> 03:05:40.000]  You know, it says a Cuitam realtor
[03:05:40.000 --> 03:05:45.000]  Receives a percentage of the recovery damage under the False Claim Act
[03:05:45.000 --> 03:05:50.000]  And a lawsuit where a whistleblower sues on behalf of the government for fraud and can receive a reward
[03:05:50.000 --> 03:05:57.000]  Whereas X-reel on relationship, private party brings a case on behalf of the government
[03:05:57.000 --> 03:06:04.000]  Used any case where a private party brings a claim for the government including non-fraud cases
[03:06:04.000 --> 03:06:09.000]  The government is the real plaintiff but does not always seek financial recovery
[03:06:09.000 --> 03:06:13.000]  Realtor may not always receive financial rewards
[03:06:13.000 --> 03:06:20.000]  Again, I can be myself as well as X-reel
[03:06:20.000 --> 03:06:22.000]  I'm both
[03:06:22.000 --> 03:06:26.000]  Yeah, but if you did that yourself and X-reel
[03:06:26.000 --> 03:06:33.000]  Then you would only receive compensation for yourself and not everybody else
[03:06:33.000 --> 03:06:38.000]  If you're both, I would think you would get both monies, no?
[03:06:38.000 --> 03:06:40.000]  That's not what you said about X-reel
[03:06:40.000 --> 03:06:45.000]  X-reel, you don't get rewarded
[03:06:45.000 --> 03:06:52.000]  It says the realtor may not always receive a financial reward
[03:06:52.000 --> 03:06:59.000]  So they could cut you out if you do a private attorney general, they can't cut you out
[03:07:00.000 --> 03:07:04.000]  Because you're the only party in interest
[03:07:04.000 --> 03:07:07.000]  But ultimately I'm still harmed
[03:07:07.000 --> 03:07:08.000]  Yes
[03:07:08.000 --> 03:07:09.000]  I still have harm
[03:07:09.000 --> 03:07:15.000]  So it just makes the numbers, if I do attorney general, it just makes the numbers larger
[03:07:15.000 --> 03:07:17.000]  Yeah, exactly
[03:07:17.000 --> 03:07:22.000]  My question before the break, everything you said was very worthwhile
[03:07:22.000 --> 03:07:29.000]  But what my question was, so if I'm doing, let's say, X-reel on behalf of the government
[03:07:29.000 --> 03:07:36.000]  Do I need to file it, do I need to present my case to both the state and the federal?
[03:07:36.000 --> 03:07:41.000]  And I don't think any of us know this, but it's a question worth understanding
[03:07:41.000 --> 03:07:44.000]  It has these state components
[03:07:44.000 --> 03:07:49.000]  Okay, that is a good question, which draws the question
[03:07:49.000 --> 03:07:55.000]  How would you get from the state to federal?
[03:07:55.000 --> 03:08:01.000]  This sounds like this is a state actor acting in the state
[03:08:01.000 --> 03:08:05.000]  It appears as though it would be a state issue
[03:08:05.000 --> 03:08:11.000]  Well, they're federal deprivation of rights violations plus HIPAA, which is federal
[03:08:11.000 --> 03:08:13.000]  Oh, okay
[03:08:13.000 --> 03:08:17.000]  So technically you could file it in either place
[03:08:17.000 --> 03:08:20.000]  It's already filed in the federal court
[03:08:20.000 --> 03:08:25.000]  Okay, and that's what I started to say, sue the state and the fed and the fed and the state
[03:08:25.000 --> 03:08:29.000]  So it sounds like you sued it in the right place
[03:08:29.000 --> 03:08:33.000]  Right, but again, if I'm doing X-reel
[03:08:33.000 --> 03:08:40.000]  Because I have, you know, declaratory judgment components to this, right
[03:08:40.000 --> 03:08:46.000]  That need to be answered, they're very valid questions, right, that are important
[03:08:46.000 --> 03:08:50.000]  So do I need to present it to both?
[03:08:50.000 --> 03:08:55.000]  And again, we don't know this answer, but it's worth us figuring this out
[03:08:55.000 --> 03:09:00.000]  No, you can only present it, only one court can hear it
[03:09:00.000 --> 03:09:03.000]  No, I'm not talking court, Randy, I'm talking attorney general
[03:09:03.000 --> 03:09:08.000]  So attorney general, state attorney general and or the federal attorney general
[03:09:08.000 --> 03:09:11.000]  It has to go to the attorney, the federal attorney general
[03:09:11.000 --> 03:09:15.000]  But does it also have to go to the state attorney general?
[03:09:15.000 --> 03:09:18.000]  I'll probably send it to both anyway
[03:09:18.000 --> 03:09:22.000]  What are you trying to get the state to do?
[03:09:22.000 --> 03:09:26.000]  You have an obligation, when you do a que tam or you do an X-reel
[03:09:26.000 --> 03:09:31.000]  You have an obligation to notify the attorney general
[03:09:31.000 --> 03:09:35.000]  To make them aware that this case is going on
[03:09:35.000 --> 03:09:39.000]  So they can take action or not
[03:09:39.000 --> 03:09:46.000]  So you give them notice prior to pursuing and give them an opportunity to pick up the case
[03:09:46.000 --> 03:09:50.000]  And if they don't, then you can move ahead with it
[03:09:50.000 --> 03:09:52.000]  Yeah, I think you have to
[03:09:52.000 --> 03:09:54.000]  That makes sense
[03:09:54.000 --> 03:10:02.000]  But once you file it, you have to give them an opportunity to step in or not
[03:10:02.000 --> 03:10:05.000]  Okay, and that makes sense
[03:10:05.000 --> 03:10:11.000]  Right, so I will probably tokenly send it to the state
[03:10:11.000 --> 03:10:13.000]  They're not going to want to touch it anyway
[03:10:13.000 --> 03:10:18.000]  Unless they want to screw it up, mess it up
[03:10:18.000 --> 03:10:25.000]  And then I'll send a very serious one to the attorney general, the federal attorney general
[03:10:25.000 --> 03:10:29.000]  And see if they want to step in or not
[03:10:29.000 --> 03:10:32.000]  So...
[03:10:32.000 --> 03:10:36.000]  With our new attorney general and the big shakeups
[03:10:36.000 --> 03:10:38.000]  Yeah, they're hungry
[03:10:38.000 --> 03:10:42.000]  Oh, wait
[03:10:42.000 --> 03:10:49.000]  Do an email or a query to JFK
[03:10:49.000 --> 03:10:54.000]  You might not have thought of that either
[03:10:54.000 --> 03:11:01.000]  Again, this specific issue, obviously one is very specific to Massachusetts law
[03:11:01.000 --> 03:11:06.000]  But also not many towns across the nation require this
[03:11:06.000 --> 03:11:11.000]  Which is why I don't think there's very many lawsuits or any lawsuits like mine
[03:11:11.000 --> 03:11:14.000]  Because there was no...
[03:11:14.000 --> 03:11:20.000]  Definitely send it to JFK and ask his opinion
[03:11:20.000 --> 03:11:25.000]  You'll be surprised, you may actually get him
[03:11:25.000 --> 03:11:32.000]  That happens, I called in once to the Department of Public Safety here in Texas
[03:11:32.000 --> 03:11:37.000]  We got 30 million people here in Texas, it's a pretty big state
[03:11:37.000 --> 03:11:44.000]  And I got the... I asked for Colonel Adams and they sent me right to him
[03:11:44.000 --> 03:11:52.000]  His second-in-command picked it up and I chewed him out and I got right to the Colonel
[03:11:52.000 --> 03:11:59.000]  You may be able to get right to him, you know, you bring this up and it's this unique
[03:11:59.000 --> 03:12:03.000]  You may get right to him
[03:12:03.000 --> 03:12:07.000]  I'm filing criminal charges against judges
[03:12:07.000 --> 03:12:11.000]  So that I can get the U.S. Attorneys not to act on them
[03:12:11.000 --> 03:12:17.000]  So that I can sue the President
[03:12:17.000 --> 03:12:20.000]  Did you hear me explain what I was going to do with that?
[03:12:20.000 --> 03:12:22.000]  I did, yeah, I did
[03:12:22.000 --> 03:12:29.000]  I don't care to get anything from the President, I just want to get his attention
[03:12:29.000 --> 03:12:30.000]  Right
[03:12:30.000 --> 03:12:33.000]  Get him to look at it
[03:12:33.000 --> 03:12:36.000]  And see if I can get them to...
[03:12:36.000 --> 03:12:42.000]  If I can't, then I will do a petition for declaratory judgment
[03:12:42.000 --> 03:12:50.000]  And ask the court to rule that the grand jury is a separate entity
[03:12:50.000 --> 03:12:58.000]  And that when mail is sent to the grand jury, the U.S. Attorney may not intercept it
[03:12:58.000 --> 03:13:02.000]  Or it's tampering with U.S. mail
[03:13:02.000 --> 03:13:03.000]  Yeah
[03:13:03.000 --> 03:13:08.000]  Open the grand jury so everybody can get to it
[03:13:08.000 --> 03:13:14.000]  Any bad stuff goes on, they'll find out about it
[03:13:14.000 --> 03:13:17.000]  See if they open the grand jury
[03:13:17.000 --> 03:13:24.000]  Okay, the point of that is, I can sue the President if I want to
[03:13:24.000 --> 03:13:29.000]  Because I'm a citizen in a republic, I can do that
[03:13:29.000 --> 03:13:31.000]  There's nothing to keep me from it
[03:13:31.000 --> 03:13:35.000]  The fact that he's the President means nothing
[03:13:37.000 --> 03:13:41.000]  I'm good, Randy, so I'm going to bounce on this and let you take a look afterwards
[03:13:41.000 --> 03:13:44.000]  Thank you so much, gentlemen, for talking to you
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[03:16:20.000 --> 03:16:30.000]  Okay, we are back in Fulton, Brett Mountain, Rue La Radio
[03:16:30.000 --> 03:16:34.000]  And we're talking to, we're going to Roger in Wisconsin
[03:16:34.000 --> 03:16:38.000]  Roger, what do you have for us today?
[03:16:38.000 --> 03:16:43.000]  Hello, hello, hello, Randy and Brett
[03:16:44.000 --> 03:16:50.000]  I noticed an observation while watching a show series
[03:16:50.000 --> 03:16:53.000]  This series is elementary
[03:16:53.000 --> 03:17:01.000]  And this one episode where Dr. Watson who's Lucy Lu and it's in stage in New York
[03:17:01.000 --> 03:17:05.000]  And she wanted to adopt a baby
[03:17:05.000 --> 03:17:11.000]  And she's in a with her New York attorney's office
[03:17:11.000 --> 03:17:20.000]  And he was, she's alleging not performance of him because she didn't make appointments
[03:17:20.000 --> 03:17:27.000]  That he was supposed to have, you know, handled the correspondence with her and informed her
[03:17:27.000 --> 03:17:33.000]  And she goes on and says, I don't want to sue you
[03:17:33.000 --> 03:17:39.000]  And I'm kind of like screaming at the TV saying, I have a bar grievance
[03:17:39.000 --> 03:17:47.000]  And I'm like thinking, don't the writers of these shows listen to a Randy Cullinan rule, huh?
[03:17:51.000 --> 03:17:53.000]  Probably not
[03:17:53.000 --> 03:18:05.000]  Right, and then also I'm thinking, well, would the ABA sue the, you know, the creators or something
[03:18:05.000 --> 03:18:10.000]  For incorporating, getting the word out, you know, to the general public? I don't know
[03:18:10.000 --> 03:18:12.000]  It's one or the other
[03:18:12.000 --> 03:18:14.000]  Yeah, that would be terrible
[03:18:14.000 --> 03:18:19.000]  They would say, what are you thinking? Letting everybody know about this
[03:18:19.000 --> 03:18:21.000]  Yeah, right
[03:18:21.000 --> 03:18:24.000]  So the main question here is
[03:18:24.000 --> 03:18:31.000]  It's the ongoing thing with my friend Martin in Minnesota with the foreclosure
[03:18:31.000 --> 03:18:38.000]  And one of the things that I've mentioned was, you know, to file for bankruptcy
[03:18:38.000 --> 03:18:45.000]  He's like, well, you know, I'm married and she makes too much money
[03:18:45.000 --> 03:18:54.000]  When you have a married couple and they have this $350,000 to $500,000 house
[03:18:54.000 --> 03:19:00.000]  And one of them loses their job or whatever and goes into accelerated foreclosure
[03:19:00.000 --> 03:19:08.000]  And then the mortgage company, obviously there's something wrong because it's been in years
[03:19:08.000 --> 03:19:16.000]  Look, the thing about the mortgage companies, they have them take out their contract
[03:19:16.000 --> 03:19:24.000]  The mortgage contract and the deed of trust and read them
[03:19:24.000 --> 03:19:27.000]  They never get it right
[03:19:27.000 --> 03:19:31.000]  Especially you want to look at the payments
[03:19:31.000 --> 03:19:35.000]  They always screw up the payments
[03:19:35.000 --> 03:19:45.000]  Wells Fargo had to pay some $100 million fine because when they got a payment in
[03:19:45.000 --> 03:19:56.000]  They deducted the interest, the monthly interest first and what was left they deducted from the principal
[03:19:56.000 --> 03:20:04.000]  And the law requires that they deduct the principal first and whatever is left applies to the interest
[03:20:04.000 --> 03:20:13.000]  In case, you know, if it's not enough and there's a deficit, deficits on the interest side, not on the principal side
[03:20:13.000 --> 03:20:17.000]  So each time it would lower the principal more
[03:20:17.000 --> 03:20:23.000]  By reversing it, the principal, it gradually holds up the principal
[03:20:23.000 --> 03:20:25.000]  They always screw up stuff like that
[03:20:25.000 --> 03:20:34.000]  If you got a variable rate, they never ever get that right
[03:20:34.000 --> 03:20:39.000]  And what I do is give me one settlement statement
[03:20:39.000 --> 03:20:48.000]  Give me the note, the deed of trust or if it's a mortgage state, give me the mortgage
[03:20:48.000 --> 03:20:53.000]  A truth and lending statement and good faith estimate if you have one
[03:20:53.000 --> 03:20:57.000]  And go through those, I'll build this spreadsheet
[03:20:57.000 --> 03:21:06.000]  And since nobody ever provides documentation for the amounts charged on the HUD-1
[03:21:06.000 --> 03:21:12.000]  Those of you who have not bought a house and don't know what a HUD-1 is
[03:21:12.000 --> 03:21:22.000]  All of the fees that are charged for creating the mortgage goes on the second page of the HUD-1
[03:21:22.000 --> 03:21:26.000]  Lines 700 through 1400
[03:21:26.000 --> 03:21:35.000]  They have all these different costs that are charged, some to the lender, to the buyer, some to the seller
[03:21:35.000 --> 03:21:40.000]  Well, those fees charged to the buyer
[03:21:40.000 --> 03:21:53.000]  The real estate settlement procedures act says that they may not charge for any service that's not actually rendered
[03:21:53.000 --> 03:21:58.000]  Or that its charge cannot be for a service not actually rendered
[03:21:58.000 --> 03:22:05.000]  That the amounts charged for the services, I'm sorry, the services must be necessary
[03:22:05.000 --> 03:22:15.000]  The amounts charged must be reasonable and the lender cannot take an undisclosed markup on the amounts charged
[03:22:15.000 --> 03:22:21.000]  Well, they take an undisclosed markup on everything
[03:22:21.000 --> 03:22:31.000]  And they charge for things like warehouse fee, document preparation fee, they got all this stuff in there
[03:22:31.000 --> 03:22:37.000]  And document preparation fee is the normal part of doing business
[03:22:37.000 --> 03:22:40.000]  Yeah, what else is there without any paperwork?
[03:22:40.000 --> 03:22:44.000]  Yeah, so that was fraudulent on its face
[03:22:44.000 --> 03:22:52.000]  And my favorite one is in Texas, they have a one dollar tax for some odd thing
[03:22:52.000 --> 03:22:59.000]  So what I do is say that when we sit down at the closing table
[03:22:59.000 --> 03:23:06.000]  And the buyer or the seller put this HUD-1 settlement statement in front of me
[03:23:06.000 --> 03:23:17.000]  And showed me all this stuff, they failed to find any documentation to show that the fees charged were for services actually rendered
[03:23:17.000 --> 03:23:24.000]  That they were necessary, that the amounts charged were reasonable and they didn't take an undisclosed markup
[03:23:24.000 --> 03:23:27.000]  They didn't tell me anything, they just put these numbers down
[03:23:27.000 --> 03:23:32.000]  So as far as I'm concerned, they're all bogus
[03:23:32.000 --> 03:23:34.000]  They made them all up
[03:23:34.000 --> 03:23:38.000]  It's across the board too for everybody, right?
[03:23:38.000 --> 03:23:41.000]  Yeah, you can do this with anybody
[03:23:41.000 --> 03:23:45.000]  So you do a normal amortization
[03:23:45.000 --> 03:23:50.000]  And the first thing I do is do the amortization and make sure it zeroes out like it's supposed to
[03:23:50.000 --> 03:23:53.000]  And that seldom does
[03:23:53.000 --> 03:24:00.000]  And then I say all of these fees on the HUD-1 settlement statement that you didn't provide me receipts for
[03:24:00.000 --> 03:24:02.000]  But they're all bogus
[03:24:02.000 --> 03:24:10.000]  So I'm going to deduct them all from the principal on the original payment
[03:24:11.000 --> 03:24:17.000]  So it's generally between $6,000 and $14,000, depending on the price of the house
[03:24:17.000 --> 03:24:21.000]  So I take that $14,000 off the head of the note
[03:24:21.000 --> 03:24:23.000]  And then amortize it
[03:24:23.000 --> 03:24:32.000]  It'll generally zero out around, if you got a 30-year mortgage, you got 360 payments
[03:24:32.000 --> 03:24:37.000]  It'll zero out around 250, 260 payments
[03:24:38.000 --> 03:24:43.000]  Because he mentioned that he got some $15,000 credit from them
[03:24:43.000 --> 03:24:48.000]  That he didn't know where it came from
[03:24:48.000 --> 03:24:50.000]  So maybe that's it
[03:24:50.000 --> 03:24:52.000]  Ooh, that's a setup
[03:24:52.000 --> 03:24:55.000]  That is always a setup
[03:24:55.000 --> 03:24:57.000]  Oh my goodness
[03:24:57.000 --> 03:24:59.000]  Because then later they just say oops
[03:24:59.000 --> 03:25:03.000]  They're going to watch for when you're slow to pay twice
[03:25:04.000 --> 03:25:07.000]  And then they're going to say bank error
[03:25:07.000 --> 03:25:11.000]  We gave you this $15,000 in error
[03:25:11.000 --> 03:25:15.000]  You got to pay it back next month or we'll foreclose
[03:25:17.000 --> 03:25:21.000]  When you run your numbers
[03:25:21.000 --> 03:25:26.000]  About 1% of the time they'll have you paying the correct amount
[03:25:26.000 --> 03:25:31.000]  Most of the time they'll have you paying more, but sometimes they'll have you paying less
[03:25:31.000 --> 03:25:35.000]  Paying less is worse than paying more
[03:25:35.000 --> 03:25:37.000]  That's what they're going to do
[03:25:37.000 --> 03:25:41.000]  When they charge you less than what they should
[03:25:41.000 --> 03:25:47.000]  That means they wrote this note and they expected it to default
[03:25:47.000 --> 03:25:54.000]  So they charge you less and they'll watch until you get a couple of slow pays in a row
[03:25:54.000 --> 03:25:57.000]  And they'll say bank error
[03:25:57.000 --> 03:25:59.000]  We weren't charging you enough
[03:25:59.000 --> 03:26:04.000]  Pay us $20,000 next month or we foreclose
[03:26:04.000 --> 03:26:07.000]  This is the kind of garbage they pull
[03:26:07.000 --> 03:26:09.000]  They do this stuff all the time
[03:26:09.000 --> 03:26:11.000]  So we put some garbage back on them
[03:26:11.000 --> 03:26:15.000]  When you subtract that off the head of the note and run it out
[03:26:15.000 --> 03:26:23.000]  I'm going to get a number that's close to the amount of the original principal and overpayment
[03:26:24.000 --> 03:26:27.000]  And in fraud
[03:26:27.000 --> 03:26:32.000]  You do not sue for the amount you were defrauded of
[03:26:32.000 --> 03:26:37.000]  You sue for the amount you would have been defrauded of
[03:26:37.000 --> 03:26:39.000]  And their plan ran to fruition
[03:26:39.000 --> 03:26:43.000]  And you don't sue for that, sue for triple
[03:26:43.000 --> 03:26:49.000]  So this will get you a claim two, sometimes three times the original principal
[03:26:49.000 --> 03:26:54.000]  And you'll have that claim to the penny
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[03:30:52.000 --> 03:30:56.000]  Okay. We are back with Randy Kelley and Brett Fountain, rule of law radio
[03:30:57.000 --> 03:31:04.000]  And have your friend listen to these last couple segments
[03:31:04.000 --> 03:31:09.760]  I'm going to tell him how to protect himself.
[03:31:09.760 --> 03:31:15.400]  First thing he needs to do is get all of the documents in the case.
[03:31:15.400 --> 03:31:23.640]  Go down to the county recorder's office and get a copy of every document filed in the
[03:31:23.640 --> 03:31:30.800]  county recorder's office from the time he received a warranty deed on the property.
[03:31:30.800 --> 03:31:35.200]  It might be called county clerk, depending on where you are, I don't know, or where he
[03:31:35.200 --> 03:31:36.200]  is.
[03:31:36.200 --> 03:31:38.200]  Martin in Minnesota, you said?
[03:31:38.200 --> 03:31:41.600]  They might call it county clerk.
[03:31:41.600 --> 03:31:43.400]  Clerks in Texas have it.
[03:31:43.400 --> 03:31:50.440]  In some states, if it's a clerk in Texas, it's the recorder's office of the clerk.
[03:31:50.440 --> 03:31:54.360]  You want a whoever keeps the records of titles.
[03:31:54.360 --> 03:32:00.440]  When the Pilgrims landed at Plymouth Rock, first thing they did was set up a property
[03:32:00.440 --> 03:32:01.440]  registry.
[03:32:01.440 --> 03:32:06.320]  That's how important this was.
[03:32:06.320 --> 03:32:14.240]  If you have a claim against a property and it's not filed in the county record, you can
[03:32:14.240 --> 03:32:20.880]  pursue your claim but not against the property if somebody else has a claim against the property.
[03:32:20.880 --> 03:32:22.800]  Their stands in front of yours.
[03:32:22.800 --> 03:32:28.000]  So if you get a claim against somebody's property, you better get it in there, get it filed quick.
[03:32:28.000 --> 03:32:35.320]  Because if somebody else files a claim before you do, even if their claim came after, it's
[03:32:35.320 --> 03:32:37.720]  ahead of yours.
[03:32:37.720 --> 03:32:40.320]  So anyway, get all those documents.
[03:32:40.320 --> 03:32:47.920]  Yeah, we already went through, we already advised them of that two shows ago, I think.
[03:32:47.920 --> 03:32:55.840]  But what I think they should raise, you know, the waiver fees so that he can get a federal
[03:32:55.840 --> 03:32:58.840]  bankruptcy state of protection, which I was advised.
[03:32:58.840 --> 03:33:01.240]  Whoa, whoa, whoa, don't tell him to do that yet.
[03:33:01.240 --> 03:33:04.760]  That's the last thing I tell people to do is bankruptcy.
[03:33:04.760 --> 03:33:08.880]  Always a chapter seven, claim the property is unsecured.
[03:33:08.880 --> 03:33:10.480]  Right.
[03:33:10.480 --> 03:33:19.760]  But I mean, in the situation with the foreclosure acceleration and the share sale date and everything.
[03:33:19.760 --> 03:33:23.840]  Wait, you don't even have a clue as to what's going on yet.
[03:33:23.840 --> 03:33:26.440]  Right, right.
[03:33:26.440 --> 03:33:32.280]  Does the person who is doing the foreclosure have standing to foreclose?
[03:33:32.280 --> 03:33:36.560]  Well, I guess that remains a big question.
[03:33:37.320 --> 03:33:40.840]  Okay, this is what I'm talking about.
[03:33:40.840 --> 03:33:44.360]  This is what happens.
[03:33:44.360 --> 03:33:48.800]  Got a guy who does mortgages.
[03:33:48.800 --> 03:33:55.840]  And he's got this money, and a real estate agent comes to him and says, we got a deal.
[03:33:55.840 --> 03:34:01.400]  So he goes to the seller and buys the house from the seller.
[03:34:01.440 --> 03:34:09.920]  And then he sits down at the closing table and gets a promise to pay from the buyer and
[03:34:09.920 --> 03:34:13.240]  transfers the property to the buyer.
[03:34:13.240 --> 03:34:16.280]  Now he's got this promise to pay.
[03:34:16.280 --> 03:34:23.520]  Takes this promise to pay and sells it to a, I forget what he's called, a guy who puts
[03:34:23.520 --> 03:34:28.560]  together notes in these pools.
[03:34:28.560 --> 03:34:32.520]  Accumulator, I forget what he's called.
[03:34:32.520 --> 03:34:39.480]  So he sells it to, this guy buys the note from him and pays him what he paid for the
[03:34:39.480 --> 03:34:43.520]  house and generally 3% over.
[03:34:43.520 --> 03:34:47.200]  Now he takes that money and goes, does his next deal.
[03:34:47.200 --> 03:34:52.840]  So he doesn't collect the note all this time, he just does deals.
[03:34:53.480 --> 03:35:01.840]  Then he sells the note to an investment company, like long range, long range investments buy
[03:35:01.840 --> 03:35:12.080]  these and so he sells it to this investment pool and the investment pool hires a servicer
[03:35:12.080 --> 03:35:15.360]  to collect the money.
[03:35:15.360 --> 03:35:21.280]  So servicer don't own the property, this investment pool owns the property and they collect for
[03:35:21.280 --> 03:35:22.280]  them.
[03:35:22.320 --> 03:35:28.920]  In order for this servicer to service the note, first thing they have to do is appoint
[03:35:28.920 --> 03:35:29.920]  a trustee.
[03:35:29.920 --> 03:35:35.200]  They have to file an appointment of trustee in the public record.
[03:35:35.200 --> 03:35:41.720]  And then the trustee, once he's appointed, will assign the mortgage to this servicer
[03:35:41.720 --> 03:35:44.480]  so they can collect on it.
[03:35:44.520 --> 03:35:54.320]  And then if there's a change in servicers, like if whoever's paying gets into a condition
[03:35:54.320 --> 03:36:00.420]  of slow pay, they have servicers who specialize slow pay.
[03:36:00.420 --> 03:36:08.640]  So the trustee will assign the mortgage to the different servicer.
[03:36:08.640 --> 03:36:21.120]  If the pool sells the investment to a different pool, then they have to file in the court
[03:36:21.120 --> 03:36:26.960]  record a new assignment.
[03:36:26.960 --> 03:36:31.400]  So to this new person, otherwise they don't have standing to collect.
[03:36:31.400 --> 03:36:35.560]  All these documents have to be in the record and they have to be in there in the right
[03:36:35.560 --> 03:36:43.200]  order and 80% of the time they're screwed up.
[03:36:43.200 --> 03:36:49.360]  They just make a horrible mess, but most people don't know to check this part.
[03:36:49.360 --> 03:36:55.200]  So you don't know if the guy doing the foreclosure has standing to do the foreclosure.
[03:36:55.200 --> 03:37:08.020]  Get these documents, order them, name them by date using the universal date format.
[03:37:08.020 --> 03:37:15.600]  Universal date format is year-month-day, then whatever the document is.
[03:37:15.600 --> 03:37:20.660]  You drop those in a folder, they'll organize themselves in chronological order.
[03:37:20.700 --> 03:37:27.180]  And then you go down and you look at the appointment of trustee, look at the assignment by the
[03:37:27.180 --> 03:37:35.300]  trustee of a servicer, and then you look at the assignment of the note to some other servicer.
[03:37:35.300 --> 03:37:39.540]  That's when it sells, they assign it to another servicer.
[03:37:39.540 --> 03:37:45.120]  You make sure that the trustee who's doing the assignment is actually the trustee because
[03:37:45.120 --> 03:37:47.500]  they may point a new trustee.
[03:37:48.340 --> 03:37:52.700]  And then the old trustee assigns the markers or get that in there all the time.
[03:37:52.700 --> 03:38:00.660]  So get all these organized in order and just follow them down and then get some payment
[03:38:00.660 --> 03:38:06.420]  stubs over a period of time if you can.
[03:38:06.420 --> 03:38:14.820]  If they have records of their payments, they need to step the duns from whoever's doing
[03:38:14.820 --> 03:38:22.260]  the collections because we want to see what was paid in principal and what was paid in
[03:38:22.260 --> 03:38:24.980]  interest, then compare that.
[03:38:24.980 --> 03:38:34.580]  What was the actual payment, the actual amount paid against the principal, and what was the
[03:38:34.580 --> 03:38:37.340]  actual amount paid against interest?
[03:38:37.340 --> 03:38:41.140]  I got a spreadsheet for that.
[03:38:41.460 --> 03:38:45.820]  Once you've run through all this, now you know where you're at.
[03:38:45.820 --> 03:38:47.100]  Okay, Randy.
[03:38:47.100 --> 03:38:56.820]  Well, my main question and what really the problem is that this is a newbie pro se and
[03:38:56.820 --> 03:39:00.820]  they always look like, well, I got to hire an attorney, but they don't have money for
[03:39:00.820 --> 03:39:01.820]  an attorney.
[03:39:01.820 --> 03:39:04.860]  They don't have money to pay the mortgage company.
[03:39:04.860 --> 03:39:11.740]  So basically for 20 years of paying principal and interest, they're up against this accelerated
[03:39:11.740 --> 03:39:18.260]  foreclosure and then they're sending them applications for a new loan, which they can't
[03:39:18.260 --> 03:39:20.540]  qualify for.
[03:39:20.540 --> 03:39:33.220]  Have them call Brett, but generally when I do this, I have a rule.
[03:39:33.220 --> 03:39:38.300]  They have to agree to put half their payment in the bank every month.
[03:39:38.300 --> 03:39:39.780]  Yeah, right.
[03:39:39.780 --> 03:39:43.340]  I do remember you saying that.
[03:39:43.340 --> 03:39:51.060]  We can keep them in there for years and they build up a nest egg and then they can go in
[03:39:51.060 --> 03:39:56.500]  and say, let's make a deal, make this go away.
[03:39:56.500 --> 03:40:01.340]  Mostly what happens is they're terrified and they listen to these guys shaking their fist
[03:40:01.420 --> 03:40:06.420]  at them and they can't take the pressure and they wind up just walking away.
[03:40:06.420 --> 03:40:07.420]  Hopefully.
[03:40:07.420 --> 03:40:08.420]  Okay.
[03:40:08.420 --> 03:40:19.140]  We can't, we can't help them through you.
[03:40:19.140 --> 03:40:23.500]  Questions that have to be asked and answered are too complicated.
[03:40:23.500 --> 03:40:25.740]  Yes, I agree.
[03:40:25.740 --> 03:40:34.300]  But my main question was, I think we should enact legislation so that the waiver court
[03:40:34.300 --> 03:40:37.300]  costs and fees.
[03:40:37.300 --> 03:40:38.300]  Modification?
[03:40:38.300 --> 03:40:42.140]  You are so naive.
[03:40:42.140 --> 03:40:43.140]  Hang on.
[03:40:43.140 --> 03:40:47.100]  Randy, dude, whatever you do, no modification.
[03:40:47.100 --> 03:40:53.220]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, we love our radio, not going to give us a calling number.
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[03:44:17.180 --> 03:44:22.780]  Randy Fountain, Rule of Law Radio and we're talking to Roger in Wisconsin.
[03:44:22.780 --> 03:44:26.900]  Roger, what is their condition now?
[03:44:26.900 --> 03:44:29.900]  Where are they at?
[03:44:29.900 --> 03:44:37.860]  Well, first of all, unlike criminal, people don't have access to a public defender, meaning
[03:44:37.860 --> 03:44:38.860]  a lawyer.
[03:44:38.860 --> 03:44:45.340]  And if they can't afford an attorney, then they must do whatever actions pro se.
[03:44:45.340 --> 03:44:47.340]  Not asking my answer to my question.
[03:44:47.340 --> 03:44:49.460]  I got that part.
[03:44:49.460 --> 03:44:51.500]  Where are they at in the foreclosure?
[03:44:52.500 --> 03:45:02.300]  Well, it's been a couple years of non-payment and that sparks something's wrong with that.
[03:45:02.300 --> 03:45:08.180]  First of all, secondly, that all of a sudden they're sending them application after application
[03:45:08.180 --> 03:45:09.180]  for a modification.
[03:45:09.180 --> 03:45:10.180]  Yeah, don't do that.
[03:45:10.180 --> 03:45:14.940]  That's what you were, yeah.
[03:45:14.940 --> 03:45:18.860]  And I told him, I'm like, I don't even respond.
[03:45:18.860 --> 03:45:28.660]  I mean, what I'm trying to say here is that I really think that since there's a lot of
[03:45:28.660 --> 03:45:35.220]  married couples out there, half of the country is losing their jobs and half of those people
[03:45:35.220 --> 03:45:41.540]  own homes that they're going to be foreclosed on because they can't make the payments.
[03:45:41.540 --> 03:45:48.780]  So half of those, the majority of people don't, are pro se's and attorneys are not going to
[03:45:48.780 --> 03:45:49.780]  protect them.
[03:45:49.780 --> 03:45:51.780]  They're, we've established...
[03:45:51.780 --> 03:45:52.780]  Wait a minute.
[03:45:52.780 --> 03:45:53.780]  Wait a minute.
[03:45:53.780 --> 03:45:57.020]  We got all that.
[03:45:57.020 --> 03:46:01.700]  Talking about this couple, how do we help them instead of just complaining about how bad
[03:46:01.700 --> 03:46:02.700]  the system is?
[03:46:02.700 --> 03:46:03.700]  I got that part.
[03:46:03.700 --> 03:46:06.820]  I got tools to help them with.
[03:46:07.820 --> 03:46:15.380]  Well, one of the tools is that if you have got nothing to lose, is that federal bank
[03:46:15.380 --> 03:46:21.780]  receives state protection to allow for more time in order to...
[03:46:21.780 --> 03:46:22.780]  What are you doing?
[03:46:22.780 --> 03:46:26.340]  Are you trying to educate on foreclosure?
[03:46:26.340 --> 03:46:30.980]  Are you trying to find out how to help these people?
[03:46:31.980 --> 03:46:33.900]  Yeah, no.
[03:46:33.900 --> 03:46:41.100]  We know that he has to go to the county court records and get all the...
[03:46:41.100 --> 03:46:44.820]  What you need him to do is you need him to call Brett.
[03:46:44.820 --> 03:46:46.820]  Yes, yes.
[03:46:46.820 --> 03:46:48.580]  Call us.
[03:46:48.580 --> 03:46:54.100]  We got questions to ask that you can't answer.
[03:46:54.100 --> 03:46:59.100]  And the longer he waits, the more problems he's going to have.
[03:47:00.100 --> 03:47:01.620]  Yeah, I agree.
[03:47:01.620 --> 03:47:02.620]  Totally.
[03:47:02.620 --> 03:47:03.620]  It's just...
[03:47:03.620 --> 03:47:11.140]  I'm just talking for not only him, but half of the people in the United States or a quarter
[03:47:11.140 --> 03:47:17.420]  of the population in the United States that owns homes.
[03:47:17.420 --> 03:47:24.060]  Bankruptcy is an option, but it's always the very last thing I have somebody do.
[03:47:24.100 --> 03:47:32.940]  If somebody has the constable coming to throw them out of the house in the morning, go to
[03:47:32.940 --> 03:47:37.260]  the bankruptcy court, file a chapter seven, claim the property is unsecured.
[03:47:37.260 --> 03:47:44.100]  You'll get an automatic stay and it stops them.
[03:47:44.100 --> 03:47:48.300]  Do not use foreclosure earlier than that.
[03:47:48.300 --> 03:47:49.300]  Bankruptcy.
[03:47:49.300 --> 03:47:51.740]  I'm sorry, bankruptcy.
[03:47:51.780 --> 03:47:57.780]  Don't use bankruptcy earlier than that, otherwise you'll lose that automatic stay.
[03:47:57.780 --> 03:47:58.780]  Right.
[03:47:58.780 --> 03:47:59.780]  Okay.
[03:47:59.780 --> 03:48:00.780]  That's for last ditch.
[03:48:00.780 --> 03:48:05.940]  That's the only time you use bankruptcy.
[03:48:05.940 --> 03:48:08.100]  Always chapter seven.
[03:48:08.100 --> 03:48:11.020]  Claim the property is unsecured.
[03:48:11.020 --> 03:48:12.020]  You claim you...
[03:48:12.020 --> 03:48:14.500]  You say you have a claim against this property?
[03:48:14.500 --> 03:48:15.500]  Prove it up.
[03:48:15.500 --> 03:48:16.500]  You can't.
[03:48:16.500 --> 03:48:17.500]  Right.
[03:48:17.500 --> 03:48:18.500]  Yeah.
[03:48:19.500 --> 03:48:23.940]  And I had mentioned to you before in my case, this is how I learned about it, you know,
[03:48:23.940 --> 03:48:27.700]  12, 13 years ago from Mark in Wisconsin.
[03:48:27.700 --> 03:48:28.700]  Oh, him.
[03:48:28.700 --> 03:48:34.340]  I was just thinking about him earlier.
[03:48:34.340 --> 03:48:44.060]  You know, I'm kind of passing it forward, you know, and about that, you know, he had
[03:48:44.060 --> 03:48:50.260]  listened to your stuff for 12 years prior to that, and he was helping me.
[03:48:50.260 --> 03:48:58.180]  And so basically it came down to the last pitch upper of that for the real estate purpose
[03:48:58.180 --> 03:49:08.340]  to, and, but I, you know, people sometimes are right above the line of qualifying for
[03:49:08.340 --> 03:49:18.860]  the waiver of court costs and fees is what my main question is, because, you know, the
[03:49:18.860 --> 03:49:26.580]  married couple, I feel it's kind of discriminatory, like a married couple, you know, the one that
[03:49:26.580 --> 03:49:36.980]  is bringing in the, you know, still working, they fall right over the line for this, you
[03:49:36.980 --> 03:49:40.340]  know, I feel they should up the amount.
[03:49:40.340 --> 03:49:41.340]  How much is this?
[03:49:41.340 --> 03:49:48.780]  How much, what's the market value of this house?
[03:49:48.780 --> 03:49:52.300]  Anywhere from 350 to 450.
[03:49:52.300 --> 03:49:55.180]  So they've got nearly a half a million dollar house.
[03:49:55.180 --> 03:49:56.180]  Right.
[03:49:56.180 --> 03:50:00.980]  You're saying they can't pay $300, $400 filing fee?
[03:50:01.980 --> 03:50:07.180]  They can't pay a $300 or $400 filing fee.
[03:50:07.180 --> 03:50:09.220]  They can't afford this house.
[03:50:09.220 --> 03:50:18.860]  Trying to help keep it won't do much good, I can keep a minute.
[03:50:18.860 --> 03:50:25.380]  But you know, these majority of people are totally unaware of that, you know, and it's
[03:50:25.380 --> 03:50:30.220]  always they have the mentality of, well, we're gonna need an attorney and we can't afford
[03:50:30.220 --> 03:50:31.220]  an attorney.
[03:50:31.220 --> 03:50:32.220]  Okay.
[03:50:32.220 --> 03:50:39.660]  Because, like I say, it's not criminal where you're afforded a public defender, you know.
[03:50:39.660 --> 03:50:50.020]  So basically they got, you know, the only thing they can do is to buy time to learn
[03:50:50.020 --> 03:50:56.780]  how to represent themselves pro se fashion and in the thrum, because they can't afford
[03:50:56.780 --> 03:50:57.780]  an attorney.
[03:50:57.780 --> 03:50:58.780]  Correct?
[03:50:58.780 --> 03:50:59.780]  Correct.
[03:51:00.340 --> 03:51:06.300]  They won't, if they're already in the process of foreclosure, they don't, there's too much
[03:51:06.300 --> 03:51:07.300]  to learn.
[03:51:07.300 --> 03:51:12.780]  They don't have time to find somebody who can help them with it.
[03:51:12.780 --> 03:51:13.780]  Yeah.
[03:51:13.780 --> 03:51:22.780]  So I will have him contact Brett through the email.
[03:51:22.780 --> 03:51:26.780]  How do you want to do that, Brett?
[03:51:26.780 --> 03:51:27.780]  Well, sure.
[03:51:27.780 --> 03:51:30.780]  Just have him call in on the air and deal with it.
[03:51:30.780 --> 03:51:34.780]  And yeah, but yeah, we can take it to email as well.
[03:51:36.780 --> 03:51:39.780]  Probably doesn't want to talk about this on the air.
[03:51:39.780 --> 03:51:42.780]  Often people are embarrassed about it.
[03:51:42.780 --> 03:51:45.780]  Even though somebody doesn't know who they are, it's still...
[03:51:47.780 --> 03:51:48.780]  Yeah, well, that's fine.
[03:51:48.780 --> 03:51:53.780]  Let's do the email introduction thing then and that'd be fine.
[03:51:54.780 --> 03:52:07.780]  Yeah, I mean, there's got to be so many people, especially the federal employees on probation,
[03:52:07.780 --> 03:52:14.780]  that are going to be up against these measures with the mortgage companies and that and accelerated
[03:52:14.780 --> 03:52:17.780]  foreclosures.
[03:52:17.780 --> 03:52:23.780]  So, I mean, and people are too busy working.
[03:52:23.780 --> 03:52:30.780]  They don't know what an attorney should do for, just like the commercial, what an attorney
[03:52:30.780 --> 03:52:32.780]  should do for you.
[03:52:32.780 --> 03:52:37.780]  And they don't know about fire grievances and writs of mandamus.
[03:52:37.780 --> 03:52:38.780]  Right.
[03:52:38.780 --> 03:52:44.780]  You know, they go in front of a judge, judge makes a ruling, and they go, oh, okay, and
[03:52:44.780 --> 03:52:48.780]  walk away and pay the fine or whatever, you know.
[03:52:48.780 --> 03:52:52.780]  They're not going to do anything to annoy the judge.
[03:52:52.780 --> 03:52:58.780]  Because they feel like if I annoy this judge, he's going to screw my next client to get
[03:52:58.780 --> 03:53:01.780]  back at me and that would be unethical.
[03:53:01.780 --> 03:53:05.780]  They use that as a rationalization, not doing their jobs.
[03:53:07.780 --> 03:53:08.780]  Yeah.
[03:53:08.780 --> 03:53:12.780]  Well, besides that, the judge doesn't even do his job.
[03:53:12.780 --> 03:53:15.780]  You know, they're in bed with the mortgage company.
[03:53:15.780 --> 03:53:17.780]  The attorneys are in bed with the mortgage company.
[03:53:17.780 --> 03:53:22.780]  Well, Roger, is your friend Martin, is he able to get on Telegram?
[03:53:26.780 --> 03:53:33.780]  Telegram, you mean like with Duo or do you mean a video chat?
[03:53:33.780 --> 03:53:36.780]  Yeah, well, it's an app.
[03:53:36.780 --> 03:53:38.780]  It's a chat app.
[03:53:38.780 --> 03:53:41.780]  Yeah, it's made for group conversations.
[03:53:41.780 --> 03:53:50.780]  So we'd be able to invite him to the Law Society or to a little side group that's just specifically
[03:53:50.780 --> 03:53:51.780]  for his issue.
[03:53:51.780 --> 03:53:58.780]  That way, you know, Randy and I could be together helping him with and you could join in on
[03:53:58.780 --> 03:53:59.780]  the chat.
[03:53:59.780 --> 03:54:00.780]  His wife could join in.
[03:54:00.780 --> 03:54:04.780]  It's all in one place and nobody's confused about where the documents went.
[03:54:04.780 --> 03:54:06.780]  And it's all right there together.
[03:54:06.780 --> 03:54:09.780]  So it helps to keep everything.
[03:54:09.780 --> 03:54:15.780]  It helps with the communication of any given issue like this.
[03:54:15.780 --> 03:54:16.780]  Oh, yeah.
[03:54:16.780 --> 03:54:17.780]  Video chat.
[03:54:17.780 --> 03:54:19.780]  I mean, I'll make it happen.
[03:54:19.780 --> 03:54:23.780]  You know, it's not about video chat.
[03:54:23.780 --> 03:54:28.780]  It's about all of the communication happening in one place.
[03:54:28.780 --> 03:54:31.780]  Video chat is another layer that it supports.
[03:54:31.780 --> 03:54:33.780]  Telegram can do that as well.
[03:54:33.780 --> 03:54:35.780]  But it's not just about video.
[03:54:35.780 --> 03:54:40.780]  It's about there being one place where you can scroll back and see.
[03:54:40.780 --> 03:54:41.780]  Wait a second.
[03:54:41.780 --> 03:54:43.780]  He asked me to do something last Friday.
[03:54:43.780 --> 03:54:44.780]  What was I supposed to do?
[03:54:44.780 --> 03:54:49.780]  And you can just scroll back up and it'll say, oh, yeah, I'm supposed to go down to see the
[03:54:49.780 --> 03:54:50.780]  county recorder.
[03:54:50.780 --> 03:54:58.780]  And you go any size document in there and it transfers it immediately.
[03:54:58.780 --> 03:54:59.780]  Right.
[03:54:59.780 --> 03:55:00.780]  It helps.
[03:55:00.780 --> 03:55:01.780]  It works with your phone.
[03:55:01.780 --> 03:55:04.780]  It works with your desktop computers.
[03:55:04.780 --> 03:55:10.780]  It's really it's a good way for this kind of help to happen.
[03:55:10.780 --> 03:55:11.780]  OK.
[03:55:11.780 --> 03:55:13.780]  And what was that again?
[03:55:13.780 --> 03:55:17.780]  The app is called Telegram Messenger.
[03:55:17.780 --> 03:55:18.780]  OK.
[03:55:18.780 --> 03:55:23.780]  I'll definitely set that up.
[03:55:23.780 --> 03:55:24.780]  OK.
[03:55:24.780 --> 03:55:25.780]  OK.
[03:55:25.780 --> 03:55:26.780]  Thank you.
[03:55:26.780 --> 03:55:30.780]  Thank you all for listening.
[03:55:30.780 --> 03:55:31.780]  Almost out of time.
[03:55:31.780 --> 03:55:41.780]  We'll be back next week on our two hour Thursday and our four hour info marathon on Friday.
[03:55:41.780 --> 03:55:44.780]  Thank you all for listening and good night.