[00:00.000 --> 00:05.680]  The Bill of Rights contains the first 10 amendments of our Constitution.
[00:05.680 --> 00:09.120]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[00:09.120 --> 00:10.600]  Our liberty depends on it.
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[00:14.500 --> 00:17.400]  one of your constitutional rights.
[00:17.400 --> 00:19.000]  Privacy is under attack.
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[00:46.280 --> 00:50.360]  Most of us know that taking the fifth means you're choosing to remain silent about a criminal
[00:50.360 --> 00:51.360]  matter.
[00:51.360 --> 00:55.100]  It's a good way to remember that the Fifth Amendment spells out what can and can't happen
[00:55.100 --> 00:57.640]  to you when you're accused of a criminal offense.
[00:57.640 --> 01:01.880]  The Fifth guarantees due process, prohibits trying someone more than once for the same
[01:01.880 --> 01:04.460]  crime, and lets you keep your mouth shut.
[01:04.460 --> 01:09.580]  The Founding Fathers inserted these constitutional provisions to protect citizens from torture.
[01:09.580 --> 01:14.040]  Back in the day, governments often used painful methods to extract confessions.
[01:14.040 --> 01:17.960]  The Fifth Amendment also prohibits the government from taking your house and land without paying
[01:17.960 --> 01:18.960]  you for it.
[01:18.960 --> 01:20.200]  That used to happen a lot too.
[01:20.200 --> 01:22.120]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht.
[01:22.120 --> 01:32.000]  More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[01:32.000 --> 01:35.760]  The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution.
[01:35.760 --> 01:39.420]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[01:39.420 --> 01:40.920]  Our liberty depends on it.
[01:40.920 --> 01:44.760]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember
[01:44.760 --> 01:47.780]  one of your constitutional rights.
[01:47.780 --> 01:49.360]  Privacy is under attack.
[01:49.360 --> 01:52.980]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[01:52.980 --> 01:57.760]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[01:57.760 --> 02:02.880]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
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[02:16.280 --> 02:19.080]  The number 666 reminds me of evil.
[02:19.080 --> 02:23.760]  I also associate it with the sick feeling one might get when falsely accused of a heinous
[02:23.760 --> 02:28.080]  crime, or when thinking about sickos who actually do commit acts of murder and mayhem.
[02:28.080 --> 02:33.880]  Either way, the number 666 can help you remember that the Sixth Amendment deals with the constitutionally
[02:33.880 --> 02:37.160]  guaranteed rights Americans have in a criminal trial.
[02:37.160 --> 02:41.440]  Those include the right to a speedy public trial, the right to an impartial jury, the
[02:41.440 --> 02:45.440]  right to full information about the charges, the right to an attorney, and the right to
[02:45.440 --> 02:48.080]  confront any witnesses face to face.
[02:48.080 --> 02:51.760]  666, sick, sickos, and the Sixth Amendment.
[02:51.760 --> 02:52.760]  Get it?
[02:52.760 --> 02:53.960]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht.
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[03:24.520 --> 03:25.520]  Yeah.
[03:25.520 --> 03:28.520]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do?
[03:28.520 --> 03:31.520]  Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[03:31.520 --> 03:34.520]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do?
[03:34.520 --> 03:37.520]  Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[03:37.520 --> 03:43.520]  When you were eight and you had bad treats, you'd go to school and learn the golden rule.
[03:43.520 --> 03:46.520]  So why are you acting like a bloody fool?
[03:46.520 --> 03:49.520]  If you get caught then you must get the coup!
[03:49.520 --> 03:52.520]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do?
[03:52.520 --> 03:55.520]  Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[03:55.520 --> 03:58.520]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do?
[03:58.520 --> 04:01.520]  Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[04:01.520 --> 04:04.520]  You chuck it on that one, you chuck it on this one.
[04:04.520 --> 04:07.520]  You chuck it on your mother, and you chuck it on your father.
[04:07.520 --> 04:11.520]  You chuck it on your brother, and you chuck it on your sister.
[04:11.520 --> 04:17.520]  You chuck it on that one, and you chuck it on me.
[04:17.520 --> 04:20.520]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do?
[04:50.520 --> 05:18.760]  Okay, howdy, howdy, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio on this Friday, the 20th
[05:18.760 --> 05:30.340]  of July, 2023. And I forgot to bring my caller page up. Oh my, okay. Start out with, I began
[05:30.340 --> 05:41.240]  getting responses from the litigants, the defendants in the lawsuit that I filed. Got
[05:41.240 --> 05:49.120]  one from Sharon Keller, presiding judge of the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals. And it's
[05:49.120 --> 06:01.360]  trash. Nobody, everybody's claiming immunity. And they claim I didn't make a good enough
[06:01.360 --> 06:06.640]  claim against them for this and that and the other, but not one of them addressed the RICO
[06:06.640 --> 06:17.960]  charge. They pretended like it wasn't there. Maybe they think they can distract you so
[06:17.960 --> 06:22.760]  that you get off in the weeds talking about some issues and you forget about that. Yeah.
[06:22.760 --> 06:29.760]  So all this stuff they're complaining about, I'm just going to ignore it. And, you know,
[06:29.760 --> 06:35.200]  ask for one of them, I'm going to ask for sanctions because he lied about incontrovertible
[06:35.200 --> 06:43.920]  facts. Just, just lied, blatantly lied outright. And I'm going to claim that they're all frivolous.
[06:43.920 --> 06:54.400]  You know, what do you mean? He was a lawyer for one of the litigants. Oh, okay. This Carabelle,
[06:54.400 --> 07:02.960]  they hotboxed her in the patrol car and he stated emphatically that she was not hotboxed,
[07:02.960 --> 07:08.800]  that they did not tackle her to the ground. That, and there was one other thing that was
[07:08.800 --> 07:16.360]  absolute and he lied and said it didn't happen. So I'm going to bar group and grieve him and
[07:16.360 --> 07:24.520]  everybody in his law firm for separate grievance for each one. Yeah. Each lie and move for
[07:24.520 --> 07:27.680]  sanctions because he's trying to put facts when he's a lawyer, he's not allowed to put
[07:27.680 --> 07:34.840]  facts before the court. Right. He's testifying and in the test, in the testimony, he's committing
[07:34.840 --> 07:47.040]  aggravated perjury. I don't get it. I guess these lawyers never challenge one another.
[07:47.040 --> 07:52.080]  And the responses I'm getting, most of them are from the attorney general. And there's
[07:52.080 --> 08:03.400]  a issue here I need to address. Texas State University, the president of Texas State University,
[08:03.400 --> 08:15.200]  the attorney general filed for him. I'm wondering if he can do that. But since I sued him in
[08:15.200 --> 08:23.000]  their personal capacity, I'm claiming that they can't use a government lawyer for assuming
[08:23.000 --> 08:28.800]  their personal capacity. Once it's determined that they have a right to immunity, then they
[08:28.800 --> 08:34.240]  can use that lawyer. Yeah. Otherwise that's misappropriation of public funds. Yeah, that's
[08:34.240 --> 08:38.920]  exactly. Yeah. That's what I'm going to claim. I'm sure they're going to find a whole bunch
[08:38.920 --> 08:45.680]  of arguments against that, but that's okay. They can do my legal research for me. So when
[08:45.680 --> 08:54.520]  I file the next one, I'll know how to get around whatever case law they're bringing.
[08:54.520 --> 09:04.160]  Because that's the kind of guy I am. So they, I said, I've got about two thirds of them
[09:04.160 --> 09:15.000]  have responded. It's not the same pile of lawyers responding for all of them? No, no.
[09:15.000 --> 09:18.640]  All the attorney general. Because then you get to see multiple angles of how different
[09:18.640 --> 09:26.480]  ones are going to try to respond. Yeah. Then that's what I'm getting. The district attorney,
[09:26.480 --> 09:32.080]  they didn't use, I forgot to see who filed his, but they had a different argument. The
[09:32.080 --> 09:43.880]  district attorney stated that he had a duty to determine whether or not a case had merit
[09:43.880 --> 09:50.920]  or not. What? Yeah. That's what he said. I don't know. He didn't provide any case law
[09:50.920 --> 09:56.640]  to support it. He just said it. So you're going to ask him, did you just make that up?
[09:56.640 --> 10:05.800]  Yeah. And then he used that. Oh, he said that I made a assertion against him that he had
[10:05.800 --> 10:14.440]  blocked complaints from the grand jury against himself. And then he went into this argument
[10:14.440 --> 10:25.120]  about how he has to determine what to prosecute, what doesn't, what he shouldn't prosecute
[10:25.120 --> 10:29.520]  things that don't have merit.
[10:29.520 --> 10:38.080]  And I'm thinking, did you hear yourself? Did you go back and reread this, Bubba? I accused
[10:38.080 --> 10:47.460]  you of secreting criminal complaints against yourself from the grand jury. And you're alleging
[10:47.460 --> 10:59.100]  that you have a duty to weed out the complaints with no merit. And I can't make this stuff
[10:59.100 --> 11:10.860]  up. So, but, but that's good because he gave me such a stupid argument. I mean, I was hoping
[11:10.860 --> 11:20.500]  to get something really good, but I got trash. And he's saying my only grounds for believing
[11:20.500 --> 11:26.640]  that that happened is that I put a cover letter in the filing and I didn't get the cover letter
[11:26.640 --> 11:27.640]  back.
[11:27.640 --> 11:39.360]  Yeah, that's right. That is the grounds I have. And that's enough. So he essentially
[11:39.360 --> 11:49.000]  tacitly admitted that he secretly complains against himself from the grand jury. What's
[11:49.000 --> 12:02.240]  he thinking? But in either case, my purpose in filing the suit was to get their attention.
[12:02.240 --> 12:14.480]  And I wanted them to read the pleadings. And once you've read this, it's in your brain
[12:14.480 --> 12:23.720]  and you can't unread it. Brett, can you send me the link to the caller page?
[12:23.720 --> 12:24.720]  Sure.
[12:24.720 --> 12:31.640]  I lost it. So, so once you've read it, you can't unread it. And I read it, wrote it for
[12:31.640 --> 12:38.920]  that purpose. You know, you've heard me talk about neuro-linguistic programming. And there's
[12:38.920 --> 12:47.980]  a one primary book by a guy named Gordon is therapeutic metaphors and how language and
[12:47.980 --> 12:57.920]  stories affect the mind of the reader or the listener, how it affects the mind out of awareness.
[12:57.920 --> 13:10.560]  And in preparing this document, it was prepared as a therapeutic metaphor. I deliberately
[13:10.560 --> 13:19.040]  did not accuse them of intentionally being bad guys. I accused them of getting sucked
[13:19.040 --> 13:24.240]  into some bad procedures that somebody else come up with because I didn't want to trigger
[13:24.240 --> 13:34.920]  that defensive mechanism and blamed it on a minor change that had far reaching results
[13:34.920 --> 13:40.920]  that nobody anticipated. So I'm first, I'm taking them off the dime and then I go back
[13:40.920 --> 13:48.160]  and stitch the codes together. I've never seen anybody take the law apart this way and
[13:48.160 --> 13:59.320]  stitch all the pieces together in order. So I'm suing them and they're reading this as
[13:59.320 --> 14:08.840]  to be sure that they're able to, to file a responsive pleading. So I'm forcing them to
[14:08.840 --> 14:18.480]  read this construction. And once they've read it, you can't unread something. Once we've
[14:18.480 --> 14:25.920]  demonstrated how all the pieces fit nicely together, you can't unread it. And rather
[14:25.920 --> 14:34.280]  I win, lose or draw, if I've done my job right, they'll start changing how they render
[14:34.280 --> 14:42.040]  rulings based on the construction of the codes in this document. Does that make sense, Brett?
[14:42.040 --> 14:47.160]  Yeah, I just didn't quite follow how you were saying that you wanted to present it in certain
[14:47.160 --> 14:50.280]  way that wouldn't trigger a response.
[14:50.280 --> 14:57.280]  No, no, no, a defensive response. And I didn't want them.
[14:57.280 --> 15:02.780]  How do you say that doesn't happen with them? Because they always are going to want to say,
[15:02.780 --> 15:06.400]  are you telling us how to do our job? We've been doing this for how many decades now?
[15:06.400 --> 15:09.880]  And here comes you trying to say, you know.
[15:09.880 --> 15:19.200]  That's exactly what I said. That this is the way they did it when they became lawyers.
[15:19.200 --> 15:23.960]  There was a way they were taught to do it. This is the way they were trained to do it
[15:23.960 --> 15:30.640]  when they became judges. And once they moved up in the ranks, they did things the way everybody's
[15:30.640 --> 15:39.560]  always done things. That there's not some evil person we can single out. These are otherwise
[15:39.560 --> 15:47.960]  good and well-meaning individuals who were simply trained wrong. And this improper training
[15:47.960 --> 15:57.760]  was something that creeped into the system little by little. And it made a horrible mess.
[15:57.760 --> 16:03.400]  And now I realize that you've done this all your career, but now I'm asking you to take
[16:03.400 --> 16:07.080]  a step back and have another look at it.
[16:07.080 --> 16:13.760]  And the main thing I was saying is, there's one small, tiny little thing here that was
[16:13.760 --> 16:22.360]  the colonel that started this whole problem. And that's the fact that the officer did not
[16:22.360 --> 16:29.240]  take the person directly to the nearest magistrate. Had they done that, had the officer known
[16:29.240 --> 16:35.440]  that when he made an arrest, he was going to have to explain himself to a magistrate
[16:35.440 --> 16:42.040]  right now. Take us out. I can't see the clock.
[16:42.040 --> 16:45.800]  All right. We've got 18 seconds.
[16:45.800 --> 16:53.280]  Yes, that's right. If they would just realize, these peace officers would just realize that
[16:53.280 --> 16:57.280]  they need to take people before a magistrate. That would sure fix a lot. Okay, we're going
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[19:58.480 --> 20:25.480]  That's the one that's supposed to get you in the most trouble, right?
[20:25.480 --> 20:36.920]  Yes, it is. She never thinks that's very funny. Okay, but I'm pretty excited about
[20:36.920 --> 20:49.240]  it. It's moving well. My plan is once I get past this Rule 12 motion to dismiss, then
[20:49.240 --> 20:59.560]  we move into the them having to file an answer. Then I'm going to ask the court to order mediation.
[20:59.560 --> 21:01.560]  So would that be a motion?
[21:01.560 --> 21:08.960]  Yeah, I'll move to for the for an order to that effect. And then
[21:08.960 --> 21:13.560]  what would be your good cause that you're going to show? You know, share the well, any
[21:13.560 --> 21:19.680]  motion, you know, we have a good cause. What would your be your reason to?
[21:19.680 --> 21:30.160]  The suit was filed to write a civil wrong. And I believe that in mediation, if the opposing
[21:30.160 --> 21:39.440]  side actually sees the wrong, sees the problem and agrees to fix it, then we may not have
[21:39.440 --> 21:48.080]  to adjudicate this whole case. Just write me a check. And I'll come to sit down to
[21:48.080 --> 21:52.880]  mediation with your checkbook. And I'll make all this go away. I'm betting you Garza would
[21:52.880 --> 22:04.720]  do that. He's got he's got a problem. He secreted criminal complaints against himself
[22:04.720 --> 22:12.480]  and way like getting court man and and get his head investigator in there and say, Do
[22:12.480 --> 22:19.960]  you remember that I told you that whatever you do, tell your boss, do not open this?
[22:19.960 --> 22:33.080]  Do you remember that? And Garza knows I played him like a cheap fiddle. And I expected a
[22:33.080 --> 22:47.520]  better argument. Actually, he just said that he had this duty to weed out the the prosecutions
[22:47.520 --> 22:55.440]  that the complaints that shouldn't be prosecuted. He said it, but he put zero law in support.
[22:55.440 --> 23:02.080]  And now he can't controvert that proactive statement of law out of his own mouth and
[23:02.080 --> 23:03.960]  estoppel at the same time.
[23:03.960 --> 23:13.760]  Yeah, so I was surprised by that. It was key. That was the thing, the issue that I brought.
[23:13.760 --> 23:21.760]  You don't have the power to do this. That this you have if you want a case dismissed,
[23:21.760 --> 23:26.200]  you have to file a motion with the court and ask the court to dismiss it. You don't have
[23:26.200 --> 23:40.920]  the power to dismiss it. And he didn't address that at all. So most Garza, you should not
[23:40.920 --> 23:42.920]  play poker.
[23:42.920 --> 23:49.880]  Yeah, it looks like he put himself in a pretty tight position right there.
[23:49.880 --> 23:57.720]  And the Sharon Keller, I got it, she's the only member of the Court of Criminal Appeals
[23:57.720 --> 24:06.080]  from whom I got an answer. Hersh just said that she had absolute immunity, did not address
[24:06.080 --> 24:14.680]  administrative actions. I accused her of breaching an administrative duty, didn't address that
[24:14.680 --> 24:15.680]  at all.
[24:15.680 --> 24:23.120]  Well, I guess you're just saying it's an act of God. And none of them addressed Rico.
[24:23.120 --> 24:31.120]  They didn't want to say that we are immune from a Rico suit, because we know where that
[24:31.120 --> 24:42.960]  would go. Good luck with that, guys. So the responses I got, while they weren't as well
[24:42.960 --> 24:53.320]  pleaded as I would have liked to have seen, they were very telling, mostly in what wasn't
[24:53.320 --> 24:54.320]  in there.
[24:54.320 --> 24:59.920]  Well, even with the Rico one, if they didn't say Rico specifically, but all they talked
[24:59.920 --> 25:06.840]  to was immunity, then it's almost as if they're saying they're immune from anything to do
[25:06.840 --> 25:11.200]  with Rico, they're also immune. It's almost like they're saying that because they addressed
[25:11.200 --> 25:12.520]  it with such a broad brush.
[25:12.520 --> 25:19.360]  Well, they can't say that, because they're not. So they just ignore it.
[25:19.360 --> 25:21.880]  Their answer could be construed as saying that.
[25:21.880 --> 25:24.800]  Say that again?
[25:24.800 --> 25:29.960]  It could be construed that their response is saying that. I know it's not true, but
[25:29.960 --> 25:34.160]  that's how it looks, because that's the whole answer that they gave.
[25:34.160 --> 25:40.480]  They were very careful to say that as judges, we have absolute immunity. And if not absolute
[25:40.480 --> 25:45.680]  immunity, we have...
[25:45.680 --> 25:46.680]  What? Qualified?
[25:46.680 --> 25:54.520]  Yeah, but they did not mention the elephant in the corner, one of them the...
[25:54.520 --> 25:56.520]  The administrative duties.
[25:56.520 --> 26:07.400]  Yeah. No, Rico. I charged them with Rico. The president of Texas State University, his
[26:07.400 --> 26:17.080]  lawyer argued that I didn't make any claim specifically against him. Yeah, as a matter
[26:17.080 --> 26:25.840]  of fact, I did. I accused him of conspiring with the Office of Court Administration and
[26:25.840 --> 26:34.800]  the Court of Criminal Appeals to obstruct justice. That was pretty clearly pled. Maybe
[26:34.800 --> 26:38.680]  he didn't read that part.
[26:38.680 --> 26:46.080]  So if I get a pleading, they give me a motion to dismiss. I'm going to rip that thing to
[26:46.080 --> 26:57.920]  shreds. I sued him. I named Sharon Heller for $20 million. You would have thought her
[26:57.920 --> 27:01.680]  lawyer would have torn my pleadings to ribbons.
[27:01.680 --> 27:06.240]  Or at least made a valiant effort.
[27:06.240 --> 27:18.640]  Yeah. I'm going to call this frivolous and delay for delay's sake. And a couple of them
[27:18.640 --> 27:23.800]  argued the merits in a Rule 12 motion.
[27:23.800 --> 27:24.800]  What?
[27:24.800 --> 27:25.800]  Yeah.
[27:25.800 --> 27:28.360]  Do they really not know any better?
[27:28.360 --> 27:40.880]  And one of them out of San Antonio, he formatted the document exactly the way I formatted mine.
[27:40.880 --> 27:47.360]  He put headings on every paragraph just like I do. I've never seen that before.
[27:47.360 --> 27:49.840]  Yeah. I've never seen a lawyer do that.
[27:49.840 --> 27:53.200]  Yeah. I think he must have liked it.
[27:53.200 --> 27:57.960]  He thought that it communicated clearly and he's hoping to be as professional as you.
[27:57.960 --> 28:08.200]  Yeah. The other ones, the one from Sunset Valley, that was the first one I got, he put
[28:08.200 --> 28:13.760]  a number on every paragraph but no headings. And he should have put headings because he
[28:13.760 --> 28:23.080]  wandered all over the place and he went deep into the merits of the issues. Never really
[28:23.080 --> 28:30.280]  argued that if all the facts were taken as true, that I would not have a claim. He didn't
[28:30.280 --> 28:35.520]  argue that. He argued that the facts were insufficient.
[28:35.520 --> 28:38.800]  Uh oh.
[28:38.800 --> 28:50.600]  Yeah. Did you forget what you were doing? So I'm real pleased with how that came out.
[28:50.600 --> 29:04.440]  Okay. I have had my fun for the day. Now we're going to go to Sweet Tina. Hello Sweet. I
[29:04.440 --> 29:06.880]  should say Charming Tina.
[29:06.880 --> 29:12.640]  There you go. Yes. And then I won't call you churlish.
[29:12.640 --> 29:16.360]  No, don't do that. I would never be churlish.
[29:16.360 --> 29:23.040]  You know, when you say something like that, that really pisses me off.
[29:23.040 --> 29:31.760]  Oh dear. Well, I hope you have a couple of answers for me. Two questions. I'm giving
[29:31.760 --> 29:35.240]  my name to... Oh, now you're trying to run me up the cliff.
[29:35.240 --> 29:38.560]  I was trying. You weren't cooperating.
[29:38.560 --> 29:42.080]  I know. I'm using you now.
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[33:23.560 --> 33:45.760]  Okay, we are back at Brent Fountain with Rule of Law Radio. We're talking to Tina in California,
[33:45.760 --> 33:49.080]  and I went in there a little too fast, didn't I, Brett?
[33:49.080 --> 33:53.640]  Well, I think Tina's going to forgive you. Yeah, I'm supposed to wait a little bit and
[33:53.640 --> 33:59.560]  give the bumper music time to kind of sink down a little bit. Okay, Tina, what do you
[33:59.560 --> 34:03.680]  have for us today? Well, as I say, I'm getting ready to file
[34:03.680 --> 34:10.840]  my reply brief on Monday, and I've been going through their response to my appellate brief.
[34:10.840 --> 34:18.000]  There's a couple of things. One of them, they say that I, it's called my rigid card
[34:18.000 --> 34:24.600]  because I should have bought the suit against them along with the declaratory judgment suit
[34:24.600 --> 34:30.960]  I did, that I should not, you know, they should have both come together. And my response is
[34:30.960 --> 34:38.160]  going to be something like they fail to understand what a declaratory judgment is. It is not
[34:38.160 --> 34:44.160]  a claim. And, you know, bringing a fraud suit against the attorney would have been highly
[34:44.160 --> 34:52.080]  inappropriate to bring it with the declaratory judgment. Am I on the right line, Brett?
[34:52.080 --> 34:58.720]  You're on the right line. The declaratory judgment does not ask for any harm, again,
[34:58.720 --> 35:07.360]  any damages against anyone. If you ask for damages, then it's no longer declaratory judgment.
[35:07.360 --> 35:11.960]  And so apparently the lawyer doesn't understand what a declaratory judgment suit is. You file
[35:11.960 --> 35:20.200]  the declaratory judgment suit so that you could get a legal determination that would
[35:20.200 --> 35:28.000]  tell you whether or not you had standing to file a civil action. And so the lawyer is
[35:28.000 --> 35:30.960]  claiming you should have done them together.
[35:30.960 --> 35:32.600]  Yes.
[35:32.600 --> 35:35.400]  He missed the point of a declaratory judgment suit.
[35:35.400 --> 35:42.000]  Yes. And they're also saying that the declaratory judgment suit, the judge said I didn't have
[35:42.000 --> 35:48.640]  the right to those documents. And I'm saying that's irrelevant because you promised them
[35:48.640 --> 35:54.760]  you did not contradict my attorney when he said under 2941, we have a right to them.
[35:54.760 --> 36:01.920]  And you just said we will send them once the ruling in the Torrance case is over. We will
[36:01.920 --> 36:09.680]  send them to you. So that to me made me rely on that promise. So it's irrelevant that
[36:09.680 --> 36:16.360]  the court said I wasn't entitled to them because I still disagree with that. And so I'm sort
[36:16.360 --> 36:18.840]  of putting that in.
[36:18.840 --> 36:30.280]  Then I'm looking here and it says, although, okay, the sort reconsideration of that ruling
[36:30.280 --> 36:36.400]  which the court denied on June 29th, 2022, appellant's notice of appeal was filed July
[36:36.400 --> 36:45.200]  13th, 2022. Although a proposed judgment was submitted to the trial court at its request,
[36:45.200 --> 36:55.000]  it does not appear the judgment was ever entered. This appeal followed. So if there was no judgment
[36:55.000 --> 37:04.440]  filed, the judge's order appears to be filed, but I don't see a stamp on it just as filed
[37:04.440 --> 37:09.280]  on the state. But they're saying the judgment that the court asked them to, you know, the
[37:09.280 --> 37:15.120]  proposed order that the court asked them to produce, I objected to it because they sent
[37:15.120 --> 37:21.280]  me an email saying you have five days to object and put your objections in writing. Otherwise,
[37:21.280 --> 37:26.560]  you will be deemed to have accepted. And I sent them an epic statement back about how
[37:26.560 --> 37:34.000]  I was never going to accept a rule, a judgment or a proposed order based on fraud, attorney
[37:34.000 --> 37:35.000]  deceit and everything.
[37:35.000 --> 37:39.320]  I mean, I went through it as a whole page of it. And I filed it with the court just
[37:39.320 --> 37:47.160]  in case he didn't. But this judgment was never entered. So what's the technicality behind
[37:47.160 --> 37:49.760]  that?
[37:49.760 --> 37:51.840]  This is a judgment the court ordered.
[37:51.840 --> 38:02.040]  The court made their order, then they asked the attorneys to submit a proposed order.
[38:02.040 --> 38:07.000]  Oh, okay. So it wasn't a judgment. It was an order he was asking for.
[38:07.000 --> 38:08.000]  Okay.
[38:08.000 --> 38:10.760]  It said a proposed order.
[38:10.760 --> 38:19.960]  What I'm doing is I'm hearing this and I'm mixing judgment, the term, with the state and
[38:19.960 --> 38:29.920]  the Fed. In the Fed, an order is not complete until a judgment is filed. And in this case,
[38:29.920 --> 38:36.920]  judgment means findings affecting conclusions at law. So you're in the state court and using
[38:36.920 --> 38:37.920]  the term judgment.
[38:37.920 --> 38:41.120]  Well, that's what the other side said.
[38:41.120 --> 38:42.120]  Yeah.
[38:42.120 --> 38:48.160]  They said that as though a proposed judgment was submitted to the trial court at its request,
[38:48.160 --> 38:52.320]  it does not appear judgment was ever entered.
[38:52.320 --> 39:06.480]  No. Judgment is, the court has never adjudicated the case then. He hasn't entered a ruling.
[39:06.480 --> 39:14.360]  But I'm in an appeal on whatever that is. Did I do it wrong?
[39:14.360 --> 39:21.880]  The way they're using the term judgment, that would have to be an order because they're
[39:21.880 --> 39:28.760]  not using the term judgment the way it's used in the federal court. So you might ask for
[39:28.760 --> 39:35.440]  clarification on that. What does judgment mean in this case? And there is no judgment,
[39:35.440 --> 39:36.840]  whatever it means.
[39:36.840 --> 39:47.000]  Yeah. I mean, why would the judge give an order, a ruling, or whatever they call it?
[39:47.000 --> 39:52.320]  Maybe it was a tentative ruling and then she upheld her tentative and then ask them to
[39:52.320 --> 39:53.320]  submit?
[39:53.320 --> 40:00.200]  Oh, they always do that. The judge gives the order, tells them what he wants to rule, and
[40:00.200 --> 40:04.640]  the judge doesn't want to write up the document. He'll tell the other side, write me up an
[40:04.640 --> 40:07.240]  order and I'll sign it.
[40:07.240 --> 40:12.000]  And they wrote up an order and I just disagreed with it in its entirety and refused to accept
[40:12.000 --> 40:13.000]  it.
[40:13.000 --> 40:16.940]  Did the judge sign it?
[40:16.940 --> 40:25.000]  I don't think she, it appears she didn't sign their order. And they are telling me it does
[40:25.000 --> 40:29.560]  not appear the judgment was ever entered into the case.
[40:29.560 --> 40:37.440]  Then you might want to, you know, they might come back and say this is that your appeals
[40:37.440 --> 40:43.640]  improper because there is no judgment. But now I doubt that they would say that. They
[40:43.640 --> 40:44.640]  would.
[40:44.640 --> 40:45.640]  Yeah.
[40:45.640 --> 40:53.780]  No, there's a problem. There's no ruling in the case. So you may want to do a mandamus
[40:53.780 --> 41:03.560]  and ask for a ruling in the case. Because right now it's up in the air. It's really
[41:03.560 --> 41:10.320]  hard for you to appeal this because you don't know what to appeal. It's unclear what the
[41:10.320 --> 41:16.160]  judge ruled.
[41:16.160 --> 41:23.920]  What did he tell the lawyers to produce in court? What did he want in this judgment?
[41:23.920 --> 41:31.360]  Okay. Well, I'll have to send that to you. I'll look it up and send you what? Because
[41:31.360 --> 41:38.080]  they sent me an email saying I had to agree to this proposed order or give my reasons
[41:38.080 --> 41:47.520]  within five days why I didn't. And I did that. But I assumed, maybe falsely, that my motion
[41:47.520 --> 41:55.840]  for reconsideration was denied. And the judge said it was all bought by Resjit Akhada. So,
[41:55.840 --> 42:03.600]  you know, now I'm reading this again, their reply brief. I'm like, what does this mean?
[42:03.600 --> 42:09.800]  So how long ago was this?
[42:09.800 --> 42:15.400]  This was in 2022.
[42:15.400 --> 42:22.800]  It's way too long to ask for findings of fact at this point. It's too long ago.
[42:22.800 --> 42:30.280]  Yeah. The judge won't have any idea why they did a certain thing.
[42:30.280 --> 42:37.040]  I'd have to study this case to be able to give you a definitive answer. It's too complex
[42:37.040 --> 42:41.760]  just to throw out an easy answer here.
[42:41.760 --> 42:46.840]  You typically have to ask for the findings of fact and conclusions of law within a certain
[42:46.840 --> 42:53.280]  number of days. And it's not years of statute and limitations. It's days, 20 days, 10 days.
[42:53.280 --> 43:00.680]  You've got to look for the rules, but it's not going to be very long.
[43:00.680 --> 43:10.400]  No. Well, I'll send you what the judge wrote in her order. And then the next day they sent
[43:10.400 --> 43:18.400]  me the email asking me if I would agree to their proposed order. And I said, no. I filed
[43:18.400 --> 43:24.720]  it in case they wouldn't. And I assumed that this, you know, was going to go through because
[43:24.720 --> 43:29.680]  I knew that they didn't care whether I disagreed or not. But I'll send you what their proposed
[43:29.680 --> 43:33.480]  order was and see if you can figure it out from there.
[43:33.480 --> 43:40.040]  Okay. And the fact that you did that may give you grounds to challenge the order. And you
[43:40.040 --> 43:48.960]  did it timely. Okay. Hang on, Randy Telford, Brett Fountain, the rule of law radio. Let's
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[46:27.560 --> 46:34.560]  Okay. We are back. Randy Carroll and Brett Fowler.
[46:58.560 --> 47:05.560]  We're talking to Tina in California. Okay. We don't know how to answer that one. Do
[47:05.560 --> 47:08.560]  you have an easier one for us?
[47:08.560 --> 47:16.560]  Well, I would like some comments on some things that I just found in my loan file that I got
[47:16.560 --> 47:21.560]  through another means that they've been trying to stop me. This loan file is with one West
[47:21.560 --> 47:31.560]  Bank, obviously, and it says, we need a copy of the client's hello letter. Thanks. Please
[47:31.560 --> 47:37.560]  advise if the client can provide the hello letter. The debtor is disputing the real party
[47:37.560 --> 47:43.560]  in interest. Endorsements are already included in the POC, which is proof of claim with the
[47:43.560 --> 47:52.560]  client. However, a hello letter from one West Bank when they received the servicing right.
[47:52.560 --> 48:00.560]  So the servicing rights are completely different to the note and deed of trust, correct or
[48:00.560 --> 48:01.560]  not?
[48:01.560 --> 48:10.560]  Yes. Yes. But servicing, that's generally something over which you have no standing.
[48:10.560 --> 48:18.560]  But they're the ones that did the foreclosure. If they didn't have the note, maybe this is
[48:18.560 --> 48:22.560]  why they're trying to hide and stop me using.
[48:22.560 --> 48:27.560]  Yeah, that's exactly why they're trying to hide. They absolutely did not have the note.
[48:27.560 --> 48:34.560]  Yep. Even though they had said they did. Now, the second thing goes on to say this loan
[48:34.560 --> 48:46.560]  was acquired from the FDIC as receiver for Indy Mac Bank FSB. Well, how could that be
[48:46.560 --> 48:57.560]  when Indy Mac Bank was out of business in 2008 and my bank, First Federal, was shut
[48:57.560 --> 49:05.560]  down in December of 2009 and it's ostensibly according to letters in the assignment of
[49:05.560 --> 49:13.560]  deed of trust, it says it went from the OTS to the FDIC to one West Bank. So how could
[49:13.560 --> 49:17.560]  they acquire it from the FDIC's receiver for Indy Mac?
[49:17.560 --> 49:23.560]  Wait a minute. That's another one that was too confusing.
[49:23.560 --> 49:24.560]  Right.
[49:24.560 --> 49:32.560]  Well, you used the term they and I wasn't sure who they specifically referred to. They
[49:32.560 --> 49:37.560]  required it. Were you speaking to one West Bank or were you speaking to the servicer?
[49:37.560 --> 49:43.560]  Well, that's what I'm not sure. It says this loan was acquired from the FDIC as receiver
[49:43.560 --> 49:50.560]  from Indy Mac Bank. This is in the note of one West Bank loan file with me. So they're
[49:50.560 --> 49:57.560]  saying this loan was acquired from the FDIC, but the corporate assignment of deed of trust
[49:57.560 --> 50:01.560]  says it went from the FDIC to one West Bank.
[50:01.560 --> 50:09.560]  Wait a minute. You're saying the deed of, okay, there has to be filings in the public
[50:09.560 --> 50:17.560]  record showing this. So how did the original mortgage get in the hands of the FDIC?
[50:17.560 --> 50:23.560]  Because the Office of Thrift and Supervision shut down First Federal Bank of California
[50:23.560 --> 50:25.560]  on December 18th, 2009.
[50:25.560 --> 50:35.560]  Okay. And so the FDIC was the successor in interest to the mortgage. And then they transferred
[50:35.560 --> 50:37.560]  it to one West Bank.
[50:37.560 --> 50:44.560]  That's what the paper said. It went from the OTS to the FDIC to one West Bank all on December
[50:44.560 --> 50:52.560]  18th of 2009 after 5 p.m. That's what it states. So where does this say it acquired
[50:52.560 --> 50:58.560]  from the FDIC as receiver for Indy Mac Bank?
[50:58.560 --> 51:05.560]  And then I see another note that's related to this. Forbearance offer has expired since
[51:05.560 --> 51:12.560]  the loan was transferred from First Federal to Indy Mac and was not a normal servicing
[51:12.560 --> 51:14.560]  transaction.
[51:14.560 --> 51:20.560]  Well, this is way too complex for the radio show.
[51:20.560 --> 51:28.560]  Too complex. I'm puzzled as to how to use this or make sense of it.
[51:28.560 --> 51:34.560]  Well, yeah, you've already been through the suit on the foreclosure. It's too late to
[51:34.560 --> 51:37.560]  come up with new stuff now.
[51:37.560 --> 51:42.560]  I just found this because I didn't know they hid it from me before.
[51:42.560 --> 51:48.560]  Yeah, exactly. And that's part of the problem. And I like to analyze these things to sort
[51:48.560 --> 51:54.560]  these pieces out. But it's way too complex to hear on the show. It's way too much information
[51:54.560 --> 51:59.560]  I would need. I would need to see everything that was filed with the county recorder's
[51:59.560 --> 52:04.560]  office, because all of these transactions in order for them to be valid transactions
[52:04.560 --> 52:12.560]  would have to be recorded in the public domain, specifically the county recorder's office.
[52:12.560 --> 52:20.560]  County recorder's office, when the Pilgrims landed at Plymouth Rock, one of the first
[52:20.560 --> 52:30.560]  things they did was set up a registrar of deeds. That's how important that was. They
[52:30.560 --> 52:38.560]  didn't want people killing each other over plots of property. So everything relating
[52:38.560 --> 52:49.560]  to real property must be filed in the public record for it to be valid. So anything that's
[52:49.560 --> 52:54.560]  not in the public record or raise an objection to it is not valid and not something that
[52:54.560 --> 53:00.560]  can be used to make a claim against real property.
[53:00.560 --> 53:08.560]  The only thing that's recorded is the corporate assignment of deed of trust that says the
[53:08.560 --> 53:14.560]  robo-assigner Brian Bly and notary Crystal Moore, both deposed as not signing their own
[53:14.560 --> 53:20.560]  documents, they signed saying as attorney in fact for the FDIC that it was transferred
[53:20.560 --> 53:24.560]  from the FDIC to one with banks. That's the only thing that's recorded in the recorder's
[53:24.560 --> 53:25.560]  office.
[53:25.560 --> 53:32.560]  See, that should got an objection because in order for that transaction to be valid,
[53:32.560 --> 53:39.560]  it had to be filed with the county recorder's office. This is the reason they created MERS.
[53:39.560 --> 53:49.560]  They created MERS so that MERS could stand in front of the banks as the holder of the
[53:49.560 --> 53:54.560]  mortgage. And then behind MERS, they could sell this stuff back and forth. Well, that
[53:54.560 --> 54:05.560]  was a pretty neat plan. The problem with it was it was illegal to sell real property without
[54:05.560 --> 54:13.560]  registering with the county recorder's office because then the real holder of the property
[54:13.560 --> 54:22.560]  gets lost in all these transactions. So it was required that in order for a real property
[54:22.560 --> 54:32.560]  transaction to be completed, it must be filed in the public record. They created MERS to
[54:32.560 --> 54:37.560]  try to get around that and the courts ruled that MERS was illegal, but the banks bought
[54:37.560 --> 54:43.560]  the courts. And the fact that it was illegal, they just didn't care.
[54:43.560 --> 54:48.560]  But if you're an attorney in fact or claim to be, you have to have an attorney in fact
[54:48.560 --> 54:53.560]  paper signed and it has to be filed with that, which it never was.
[54:53.560 --> 55:03.560]  Yes. Well, the courts have just allowed it. What they said was if you file a document
[55:03.560 --> 55:11.560]  in this case, you become an attorney in fact. You're supposed to file a notice of representation,
[55:11.560 --> 55:16.560]  but we're going to hold you responsible as an attorney in fact, regardless.
[55:16.560 --> 55:20.560]  If they sign it. They have to sign the motion.
[55:20.560 --> 55:31.560]  Yeah. If it's not signed, it's not valid to be filed. Now, I had a lawyer once complain
[55:31.560 --> 55:39.560]  to the judge that the document he had wasn't signed. And the judge picked up his and he
[55:39.560 --> 55:45.560]  said, well, mine's signed. So if you look at your document and it's not signed, don't
[55:45.560 --> 55:49.560]  start jumping up and down yet. Go down to the court and look at the one that's in the
[55:49.560 --> 55:52.560]  court records and see if that one's signed.
[55:52.560 --> 55:53.560]  Yes.
[55:53.560 --> 56:01.560]  Well, it's the corporate assignment of deed of trust is fine. However, the signature is
[56:01.560 --> 56:09.560]  not the real signature of this notary Brian Black. And he's been deposed as in court in
[56:09.560 --> 56:15.560]  Florida, admitting that he signed six times a day. Well, he really didn't. He said other
[56:15.560 --> 56:18.560]  people signed by signature or stemmed it.
[56:18.560 --> 56:28.560]  Okay, we got that. That had to be adjudicated in the trial on the case. It's too late now.
[56:28.560 --> 56:37.560]  So the courts just say here that it doesn't matter because they can rectify it. And, you
[56:37.560 --> 56:38.560]  know.
[56:38.560 --> 56:45.560]  Okay, they're right about that. However, if the document is improperly filed in the
[56:45.560 --> 56:52.560]  county recorder's office, then you go to the county judge and ask the county judge or you
[56:52.560 --> 57:01.560]  go to the clerk and show the clerk that it's improper and ask the clerk to petition the
[57:01.560 --> 57:09.560]  county judge to order the removal of this document from the record for failure to follow
[57:09.560 --> 57:17.560]  the filing rules. They're not ruling that the document is not valid. It's just not
[57:17.560 --> 57:26.680]  proper for filing. And once it comes out of the record, then you file something in there.
[57:26.680 --> 57:35.080]  If they put it back in the record, then it falls behind your filing. They gotta get their
[57:35.080 --> 57:40.280]  stuff filed and they gotta get it filed right the first time. Otherwise, you could step
[57:40.280 --> 57:41.560]  in between them.
[57:41.560 --> 57:45.320]  That's interesting. I didn't know that before.
[57:45.320 --> 57:52.920]  So that's why I want to see the notary ledger. If somebody notarized this, I want to see
[57:52.920 --> 57:59.600]  his ledger. If I don't find evidence in the ledger, then I maintain that the filing was
[57:59.600 --> 58:05.320]  improper and ask the court to remove it from the record. And then once it's removed, the
[58:05.320 --> 58:11.640]  door is open for somebody to step in between. Hang on, Randy Kelton, Rhett Fountain, Lou
[58:11.640 --> 58:17.160]  La Radio. My clock's not working right. Brett, can you see what time we're going out?
[58:17.160 --> 58:20.240]  Yeah, you've got another 31 seconds.
[58:20.240 --> 58:26.400]  Oh, because it's not... Maybe I need to reload this thing. Maybe I can get it.
[58:26.400 --> 58:29.760]  Maybe give people the phone number.
[58:29.760 --> 58:38.760]  Oh, now it's giving me time. Okay. Call-in number 512-646-1984. We've got two empty slots
[58:38.760 --> 58:43.480]  on the board. So if you have a question or comment, give us a call. We'll be right back
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[01:03:23.880 --> 01:03:47.880]  Okay. Howdy, howdy. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Blue Bar Radio on this, the 20th day of July
[01:03:47.880 --> 01:03:57.800]  2023. And we're talking to Tina in California. Where were we, Tina?
[01:03:57.800 --> 01:04:02.280]  Well, you were saying that it was, you know, too complicated. We were talking about the
[01:04:02.280 --> 01:04:07.040]  nerdery and filing the record. So I'm going to get that to you so that you can take a
[01:04:07.040 --> 01:04:14.240]  quick look and see, you know, where we can go. And then I have one quick comment on something
[01:04:14.240 --> 01:04:19.360]  they said, and I want to ask you this. They say, on a broader view, however, the merits
[01:04:19.360 --> 01:04:25.800]  of appellant's claims are beside the point. All of the bases on which the trial court
[01:04:25.800 --> 01:04:33.360]  dismissed appellant's claims are correct and entirely separate from the merits. Really?
[01:04:33.360 --> 01:04:40.000]  I thought a case had to be ruled on the merits. Am I wrong?
[01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:48.480]  I'm trying to formulate that in my brain. What did they say about the merits?
[01:04:48.480 --> 01:05:02.640]  They said, the merits of appellant's claims are beside the point. All of the bases on
[01:05:02.640 --> 01:05:08.440]  which the trial court dismissed appellant's claim are correct and entirely separate from
[01:05:08.440 --> 01:05:19.280]  the merits. And they say, they go on to say, no repetition of various iterations and combinations
[01:05:19.280 --> 01:05:26.480]  of the word fraud can change that. For the same reasons, while respondents deny any violations
[01:05:26.480 --> 01:05:32.320]  of their professional ethical obligations, appellant's numerous citations to these rules
[01:05:32.320 --> 01:05:38.640]  are irrelevant and have no bearing on the issues at hand before the trial court or in
[01:05:38.640 --> 01:05:39.640]  this appeal.
[01:05:39.640 --> 01:05:51.200]  It's almost like they're hinting, without actually saying they're hinting at the court
[01:05:51.200 --> 01:05:59.920]  having made a decision that had nothing to do with merits, such as res judicata or no
[01:05:59.920 --> 01:06:05.800]  jurisdiction, something without getting to the merits. They didn't actually say that,
[01:06:05.800 --> 01:06:08.960]  but that seems like where they're kind of hinting.
[01:06:08.960 --> 01:06:19.080]  So what does that mean at head of dress? Because the court has to rule on the merits of a case.
[01:06:19.080 --> 01:06:26.760]  Yeah, but what specifically was the court ruling?
[01:06:26.760 --> 01:06:36.360]  I just said it's fraud by res judicata. Their comments, their default statements or litigation
[01:06:36.360 --> 01:06:43.520]  privilege and time-bob. They passed a statute of limitations, which is really-
[01:06:43.520 --> 01:06:55.160]  Okay. Okay, that would render the merits irrelevant, because the decision had already been made.
[01:06:55.160 --> 01:07:00.360]  And the court would have considered the merits of the case in rendering those rulings. And
[01:07:00.360 --> 01:07:09.160]  now you're coming back to attack the rulings and the other party is saying that the matter
[01:07:09.160 --> 01:07:11.960]  is res judicata.
[01:07:11.960 --> 01:07:17.840]  So the merits of the case that led the court to the ruling in the first place is not before
[01:07:17.840 --> 01:07:24.040]  the court at the moment. You're bringing another issue and the other side is saying that has
[01:07:24.040 --> 01:07:35.240]  already been determined and this court can't go back to the merits and relitigate it.
[01:07:35.240 --> 01:07:40.760]  They didn't, the court didn't rule. She just said, my case against them was for their fraudulent
[01:07:40.760 --> 01:07:48.600]  statements and fraudulent actions. They committed promissory fraud. They promised to do something,
[01:07:48.600 --> 01:07:52.880]  which they then decided they weren't doing. They admitted that they had no intention of
[01:07:52.880 --> 01:07:56.440]  doing what they said they were going to do. That's in writing that they admit-
[01:07:56.440 --> 01:08:05.600]  No, no, stop. You're going off the cliff here. You're jumping back into all the merits. And
[01:08:05.600 --> 01:08:09.400]  that's what the court's saying. This has already been ruled.
[01:08:09.400 --> 01:08:16.040]  So I've got to attack the fact that it is not barred by the statute of limitations because
[01:08:16.040 --> 01:08:19.120]  they could not have found out this-
[01:08:19.120 --> 01:08:23.120]  Argue equitable tolling.
[01:08:23.120 --> 01:08:29.760]  Okay. That's what I did in the reply brief. And they're saying that I absolutely knew
[01:08:29.760 --> 01:08:36.400]  that their statements were wrong and I should have known and there's no excuse. But it's
[01:08:36.400 --> 01:08:40.240]  funny because their letter states that they would not-
[01:08:40.240 --> 01:08:43.400]  Hold on, hold on. You're using too many pronouns.
[01:08:43.400 --> 01:08:50.640]  Okay. The attorney's letter states that they would not send me these documents until after
[01:08:50.640 --> 01:08:57.040]  the ruling was final in the torrent action. That ruling-
[01:08:57.040 --> 01:09:01.760]  Okay. Wait, wait, wait. You're going back to re-litigating that issue.
[01:09:01.760 --> 01:09:06.960]  Well, I'm just explaining why it's not barred by the statute of limitations.
[01:09:06.960 --> 01:09:09.280]  Oh, okay.
[01:09:09.280 --> 01:09:14.520]  Because he said that the attorney said he would not send these until after the action
[01:09:14.520 --> 01:09:22.160]  was finalized, which meant after the appeal was denied. That ruling on the appeal in that
[01:09:22.160 --> 01:09:29.840]  case did not happen until July of 2018. And he's saying that I should have bought this
[01:09:29.840 --> 01:09:39.480]  within three years of 2017 when I knew that their statements were false. Because I've
[01:09:39.480 --> 01:09:44.200]  got a crystal ball. You know that. I knew what they were thinking, even though he said
[01:09:44.200 --> 01:09:50.760]  something entirely different. So I'm saying I could not have known until the earliest
[01:09:50.760 --> 01:09:57.760]  of July of 2018 that they were not going to follow through. And technically it was November
[01:09:57.760 --> 01:10:03.880]  when I sent them another letter saying, this case is over. You said you would send these.
[01:10:03.880 --> 01:10:10.320]  They have not been sent. So the three years of equitable tolling goes from November of
[01:10:10.320 --> 01:10:11.320]  2018.
[01:10:11.320 --> 01:10:17.040]  Because he's clear when he says, I will not send them until after-
[01:10:17.040 --> 01:10:24.080]  Okay, yeah. Okay, wait. I'm not sure exactly where we're at in this case to know what's
[01:10:24.080 --> 01:10:32.360]  relevant at this point. You got that ruling a while back, and you're appealing that ruling.
[01:10:32.360 --> 01:10:33.360]  Am I correct here?
[01:10:33.360 --> 01:10:38.920]  Yeah, I'm appealing the ruling from the lower court saying that my claim against the attorney
[01:10:38.920 --> 01:10:47.360]  for fraud is time barred and residue to Carter, and that he had litigation privilege to lie
[01:10:47.360 --> 01:10:48.360]  to me.
[01:10:48.360 --> 01:10:54.280]  Oh, so you're appealing based on equitable tolling.
[01:10:54.280 --> 01:10:57.280]  Yes.
[01:10:57.280 --> 01:11:02.680]  And that it's not barred by residue to Carter because of the fraud. And we've got some case
[01:11:02.680 --> 01:11:09.400]  law on that. And that the litigation privilege does not apply because there was attorney
[01:11:09.400 --> 01:11:12.400]  deceit.
[01:11:12.400 --> 01:11:21.280]  Good. I suspect by the time you get this to the Supreme, you're likely to get a ruling
[01:11:21.280 --> 01:11:23.320]  in your favor.
[01:11:23.320 --> 01:11:25.320]  Well-
[01:11:25.320 --> 01:11:35.160]  Because I can't see the courts ruling that lawyers can lie outright. And I presume that
[01:11:35.160 --> 01:11:42.560]  litigants knows that the lawyer is lying outright, and then hold the litigant responsible for
[01:11:42.560 --> 01:11:45.240]  the lawyer's lying.
[01:11:45.240 --> 01:11:48.160]  And that's exactly what they're doing.
[01:11:48.160 --> 01:11:55.000]  Yeah. Just hang in there. Keep moving this along. You'll get to a court that'll change
[01:11:55.000 --> 01:12:00.920]  this. The Supreme is not going to want that as fixed law.
[01:12:00.920 --> 01:12:11.080]  That's what I'm hoping. And I will tell everybody here on this show, when you get a reply brief
[01:12:11.080 --> 01:12:16.560]  or anything from these attorneys, go through it with a fine tooth comb and go through it
[01:12:16.560 --> 01:12:22.120]  again two, three, four times, because you keep coming up with something that you didn't
[01:12:22.120 --> 01:12:25.800]  see the first two times and that you can attack.
[01:12:25.800 --> 01:12:28.920]  And take their case law and rip it apart.
[01:12:28.920 --> 01:12:29.920]  Yeah.
[01:12:29.920 --> 01:12:42.160]  I just did that in the first response I got in my suit. They cited a case under the Ashcroft
[01:12:42.160 --> 01:12:50.240]  v. Ickball and then a related case. And they cited this sentence that said that they wouldn't
[01:12:50.240 --> 01:13:01.800]  take unsupported conclusions, but they didn't quote the rest of the paragraph.
[01:13:01.800 --> 01:13:07.960]  So I went in there and I read it and quoted the rest of the paragraph and it changed everything.
[01:13:07.960 --> 01:13:12.640]  I don't have it in my head exactly what it said, but it changed it. It made what they
[01:13:12.640 --> 01:13:19.120]  were saying. It mitigated what they were claiming and did it from their own case law. And when
[01:13:19.120 --> 01:13:24.160]  you take their case law, cram it down their throats, boy, they do not like, the courts
[01:13:24.160 --> 01:13:27.240]  don't like that one little bit.
[01:13:27.240 --> 01:13:34.280]  So read the case law. You don't have to read the whole case. Just look up the case and
[01:13:34.280 --> 01:13:41.600]  then once you have it up in one of these search engines, hit control F, that's the find function,
[01:13:41.600 --> 01:13:49.440]  and then put in the most pertinent phrase, three or four word phrase, from what they
[01:13:49.440 --> 01:13:59.360]  quoted. And it'll take you right down to it. If you use case text, which is my favorite,
[01:13:59.360 --> 01:14:06.720]  if you have a citation that's from case text, when you hit on it, it'll take you right to
[01:14:06.720 --> 01:14:12.440]  that spot. That happened two or three times.
[01:14:12.440 --> 01:14:20.980]  And then when you quoted something from case text, you can highlight what you want to quote
[01:14:20.980 --> 01:14:32.240]  and it'll give you a box down below that says you can copy with citation. Use that and that
[01:14:32.240 --> 01:14:37.600]  citation will take them to the exact spot in the case where you copied it from.
[01:14:37.600 --> 01:14:40.000]  That's good to know.
[01:14:40.000 --> 01:14:48.560]  Yeah, I have to link everything. And I quote, when I have a quotation, it's always set out
[01:14:48.560 --> 01:14:56.200]  from the rest of the text, single space, drop it two points in font, shrink both margins
[01:14:56.200 --> 01:15:04.520]  and single spacing with no space between the lines. So when you look at the page, it stands
[01:15:04.520 --> 01:15:11.280]  out that that's where the quote starts and ends. And then if I have a quote within a
[01:15:11.280 --> 01:15:19.660]  quote, then instead of indenting a half inch, I indent an inch. So it's really easy to see
[01:15:19.660 --> 01:15:27.540]  where you have a case, quoting a case, quoting a case. Each one is set in quotes and indented
[01:15:27.540 --> 01:15:32.880]  more so you can take apart how all these cases fit together.
[01:15:32.880 --> 01:15:41.280]  Lawyers almost never do anything like that. The suit I filed is just filled with that.
[01:15:41.280 --> 01:15:49.240]  Every place I cited a case, I've got what I'm citing from the case quoted right there.
[01:15:49.240 --> 01:15:57.480]  And that will, if you do that, that will force you into a mental discipline that will help
[01:15:57.480 --> 01:16:00.880]  you to produce much more effective pleadings.
[01:16:00.880 --> 01:16:09.360]  Okay. Well, I'll keep working. I've been writing everything down and cases and writing out
[01:16:09.360 --> 01:16:13.860]  the going against them. Because there's a couple of times in here that they've admitted
[01:16:13.860 --> 01:16:18.160]  to the fraud and they've said that they didn't make any false statements. Well, the false
[01:16:18.160 --> 01:16:22.840]  statements are memorialized in writing. So how can you say you never made them?
[01:16:22.840 --> 01:16:28.800]  Yeah, that's what I have in my case. They're just outright lying. So we'll see how Texas
[01:16:28.800 --> 01:16:30.760]  deals with outright lying.
[01:16:30.760 --> 01:16:36.360]  Okay. Well, I'll let you go because the news is coming up and somebody else can come and
[01:16:36.360 --> 01:16:37.360]  ask a question.
[01:16:37.360 --> 01:16:43.920]  Okay. Thank you, Tina. This is Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio. And we've
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[01:19:27.760 --> 01:19:46.760]  I was blindsided, but now I can see your plan. You put the fear in my pockets, took the money
[01:19:46.760 --> 01:20:11.760]  ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again. Ain't gonna fool me.
[01:20:11.760 --> 01:20:25.760]  Ain't gonna drop me with that same old sucker punch. I get it now, but then I must have been out of love. Back then you had room to move, but now you're feeling the rush.
[01:20:25.760 --> 01:20:41.760]  Ain't gonna get me with that same old trick.
[01:20:55.760 --> 01:21:00.760]  Thank God it's Friday.
[01:21:00.760 --> 01:21:08.760]  Are you a little earlier? You went west and went past the line?
[01:21:08.760 --> 01:21:14.760]  No. What is today? What's today's date? Today's the 20th.
[01:21:14.760 --> 01:21:20.760]  Well, I tried to tell Randy that it's November 13th, but he didn't buy that one.
[01:21:20.760 --> 01:21:27.760]  I bet he didn't believe it was April 1 either. That's a bunch of elder abuse.
[01:21:27.760 --> 01:21:31.760]  No, today we were just Thursday, July 20th.
[01:21:31.760 --> 01:21:41.760]  Well, Randy, you would be the second person this week to accuse me of elder abuse.
[01:21:41.760 --> 01:21:54.760]  What I have to say, not about you, but the clowns behind it, revenge is a dish best served cold.
[01:21:54.760 --> 01:22:09.760]  And I agree. I've had a lot of fun with revenge. About the time they think you're done and gone away and they forgot about you, then you come back and hammer them.
[01:22:09.760 --> 01:22:16.760]  Sounds like there's a story behind that, Ted. Have you got something to unfold behind that revenge quote?
[01:22:16.760 --> 01:22:32.760]  You know, Brett, it's just so sad because the eight years of being tortured and, you know, again, I wanted to kill myself, okay?
[01:22:32.760 --> 01:22:42.760]  And Randy saved me because he just said, hey, the feelings you're having are righteous.
[01:22:42.760 --> 01:22:50.760]  And I know because I've been through both the courts and war, and I'd take war over the court.
[01:22:50.760 --> 01:22:58.760]  And confiding these things to me, it saved me. It saved me from doing myself in.
[01:22:58.760 --> 01:23:02.760]  And then I trudged on for another four years and prevailed.
[01:23:02.760 --> 01:23:13.760]  But now, you know, I'm taking care of my mom and I've been caretaker to her for, you know, seven, eight months, solid now.
[01:23:13.760 --> 01:23:18.760]  And it's one of those things where you have a family dispute.
[01:23:18.760 --> 01:23:30.760]  And what I have is a sister who is an ex-cop who's married to a cop that he did his full 20 years and got his retirement.
[01:23:30.760 --> 01:23:42.760]  And for whatever reason, my sister, who really doesn't have anything to do with my mom and hasn't for 20 years, came out of the woodwork and started attacking me.
[01:23:42.760 --> 01:23:50.760]  And they sent out the sheriff's deputies and the comment from the sheriff's deputies.
[01:23:50.760 --> 01:23:52.760]  I wasn't here at the time. My mom told me later.
[01:23:52.760 --> 01:23:56.760]  He's like, jeez, this house is cleaner than mine.
[01:23:56.760 --> 01:24:00.760]  And then I thought that was the end of it.
[01:24:00.760 --> 01:24:08.760]  But then Monday Protective Services show up and it's a whole litany of false claims against me.
[01:24:08.760 --> 01:24:18.760]  And they're all crafted with all the buzzwords that would cause them to go into emergency mode.
[01:24:18.760 --> 01:24:29.760]  Both the sheriff's department and the Protective Services, the county, went into emergency mode because this was all crafted with all the buzzwords and all the claims.
[01:24:29.760 --> 01:24:43.760]  That included, and I think they really went over the deep end with this, that I was holding my mom hostage, I had taken her phone away from her, and that she was in immediate danger.
[01:24:43.760 --> 01:24:46.760]  Of course, all of that's a big lie.
[01:24:46.760 --> 01:24:49.760]  And so that's the background, Brett.
[01:24:49.760 --> 01:25:01.760]  But I, and Randy, I know your feelings about siblings fighting, but I've been estranged from my sister for 25 years.
[01:25:01.760 --> 01:25:07.760]  I said goodbye to her 25 years ago because I'm the oldest, don't want to fight with my siblings.
[01:25:07.760 --> 01:25:13.760]  And I thought it was best just to stay apart.
[01:25:13.760 --> 01:25:26.760]  But for her to do this to me, and when I say the buzzwords, Brett, and all the right statements, it's because they're cops.
[01:25:26.760 --> 01:25:30.760]  My sister, her husband, they're cops.
[01:25:30.760 --> 01:25:37.760]  And this is an outrageous manipulation of the system.
[01:25:37.760 --> 01:25:44.760]  And so I'm telling you all this because this was deliberate.
[01:25:44.760 --> 01:25:51.760]  It was done knowing that it was absolutely false.
[01:25:51.760 --> 01:25:56.760]  And so, Brett, where should I start?
[01:25:56.760 --> 01:26:04.760]  Criminal charges, file a civil suit against them, file for restraining orders.
[01:26:04.760 --> 01:26:09.760]  Sue them for liable in slander.
[01:26:09.760 --> 01:26:12.760]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:26:12.760 --> 01:26:20.760]  And honestly, though, you know, Randy, just as you said that, I got a tinge in me.
[01:26:20.760 --> 01:26:26.760]  And honestly, I really don't want nothing to do with them.
[01:26:26.760 --> 01:26:37.760]  I don't want to be in a lawsuit with them because I don't think there's, if you got a bad cop, I don't think there's pretty much worse than that.
[01:26:37.760 --> 01:26:41.760]  And they know how to play some really dirty games on you.
[01:26:41.760 --> 01:26:44.760]  And so, yeah, that tinge in me.
[01:26:44.760 --> 01:26:48.760]  I can attest to that.
[01:26:48.760 --> 01:26:53.760]  Well, go ahead, Brett.
[01:26:53.760 --> 01:26:58.760]  I just mean it's not like with judges and attorneys.
[01:26:58.760 --> 01:27:07.760]  You report their crimes, you report their unethical behavior, bar grievances, judicial misconduct complaints, criminal complaints.
[01:27:07.760 --> 01:27:30.760]  And when you have a viper's nest of corrupt cops and you report crime to one of their own, not necessarily knowing it, but you go up the chain from where you need to.
[01:27:30.760 --> 01:27:48.760]  If their nest is so big that it encompasses the one that you're reporting to, as well as the one you're reporting the behavior of, then there can be some really rough repercussions.
[01:27:48.760 --> 01:28:02.760]  I had my own experience. I had reported a sheriff's deputy to the sheriff.
[01:28:02.760 --> 01:28:11.760]  And that wasn't high enough up. I needed to, you know, obviously go farther than that, but I didn't know at the time.
[01:28:11.760 --> 01:28:27.760]  And I didn't even know at the time about TECOL complaints. You know, the equivalent of POST in many states is TECOL in Texas, reporting a peace officer for violation of his licensing terms.
[01:28:27.760 --> 01:28:33.760]  Well, all I did was a criminal complaint. That's all I knew to do.
[01:28:33.760 --> 01:28:50.760]  And I sent it to the sheriff, which wasn't the right place to send it. But next thing I know, my property was invaded, and there were tire tracks where I could see somebody had rolled a trailer in there, a flatbed trailer.
[01:28:50.760 --> 01:29:04.760]  Well, I imagine flatbed. I don't know that. I could just see the tire tracks. And they ran off with everything. They stole very thoroughly from me and my family.
[01:29:04.760 --> 01:29:10.760]  And it was in a really dramatic way. I mean, they went after every little thing.
[01:29:10.760 --> 01:29:25.760]  So I can't say for sure that it was them, but my goodness, it sure seems that way.
[01:29:25.760 --> 01:29:40.760]  So you see what we're up against. So for anybody that's out there listening right now, after we come back from the break, get the notebook out, who, what, where, when.
[01:29:40.760 --> 01:30:02.760]  Yeah, I'm going to make a suggestion on a security device. Hang on. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rue of La Radio. I call in number 512-646-1984. We'll be right back.
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[01:33:12.760 --> 01:33:26.760]  Yeah.
[01:33:42.760 --> 01:33:52.760]  Yeah.
[01:33:52.760 --> 01:34:02.760]  Yeah.
[01:34:02.760 --> 01:34:12.760]  Yeah.
[01:34:12.760 --> 01:34:22.760]  Yeah.
[01:34:22.760 --> 01:34:32.760]  We're back, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio, and we're talking to Ted in California. Okay, go ahead, Ted.
[01:34:32.760 --> 01:34:45.760]  Well, so, Brett, to some of the statements you made regarding the Viper Pit or what, I don't know if you called it Vipers, but yeah, that was one of my conclusions.
[01:34:45.760 --> 01:34:58.760]  We're talking about California, and my mom's in Oregon, and these California cops have now retired, and they've moved to Reno, Nevada.
[01:34:58.760 --> 01:35:05.760]  And so, like I started to say as we went to break, this is for everybody out there.
[01:35:05.760 --> 01:35:20.760]  What do you got to do? Get yourself a fresh notebook, date, time, who, what, where, when, and then I'm going to get the police report, and I'm working on the police report.
[01:35:20.760 --> 01:35:38.760]  What I mean is I'm making contact now, and the deputies that came out were day shift deputies. The first contact I made was with two night deputies.
[01:35:38.760 --> 01:35:53.760]  And we, our initial conversation was over an hour long, and it was, well, kudos to you for taking care of your mom, and they were kind of telling me, okay, here's what you do, you know, tell them to not call anymore.
[01:35:53.760 --> 01:36:00.760]  And if they call again, call me back, then we'll tell them, and if they call again, we'll arrest them.
[01:36:00.760 --> 01:36:14.760]  And that was the night shift deputy. And we had talked for over an hour, like I said, and I could tell he had a burning question for me, and he finally asked it.
[01:36:14.760 --> 01:36:31.760]  He goes like, I got to ask you, how old are you? And I told him, and he goes, oh, no way. I thought you were like, only like 40 years old. And I paused for a second, and I said, that's because I've never been married.
[01:36:31.760 --> 01:36:44.760]  And the two of them, they were in a squad car, and the two of them started busting laughing, and they really got a good belly laugh for both of them.
[01:36:44.760 --> 01:36:54.760]  And then this one deputy went on to tell me a lot of details about his mom and where she's, you know, progressing in age and all of that.
[01:36:54.760 --> 01:37:01.760]  I gave him a couple of recommendations and said, just look at what I'm going through right now. So that's how that ended up.
[01:37:01.760 --> 01:37:13.760]  And then the day shift deputy, the next day, I ended up talking to him briefly, one of them, and I was getting the kind of vibe like he was really hesitant to take my side.
[01:37:13.760 --> 01:37:29.760]  He was really hesitant to go against even retired police. But I think he kind of came around and he said to me on the phone, your mom's house is spotless.
[01:37:29.760 --> 01:37:38.760]  And I said, thank you. And so, of course, I'm looking to get that deputy to write that in the report.
[01:37:38.760 --> 01:37:45.760]  And then, of course, the protective services, I'm going to get their report. I'm going to request their report.
[01:37:45.760 --> 01:37:59.760]  And, you know, it's just sad that I have to go through all this because I'm going to tell you it's more than overwhelming me taking care of my mom.
[01:37:59.760 --> 01:38:22.760]  And this has become a major distraction. And I don't think I told Ranny this yet, but I did get my mom to call my sister and I documented that while she was doing it, if you know what I mean.
[01:38:22.760 --> 01:38:33.760]  And she flat told her and now she got voicemail. She got my sister's voicemail, but she flat told her what you're doing is hurtful. It's not true. It's a lie.
[01:38:33.760 --> 01:38:44.760]  And I want you to stop. Stop right now. And so that pretty much should have told my sister that, you know, and she said, knock it off.
[01:38:44.760 --> 01:38:57.760]  Well, not to be deterred, within the hour, we're getting—my mom got a phone call from my sister's husband's phone.
[01:38:57.760 --> 01:39:05.760]  Now, I'm saying it that way because we don't know—I can't say who was making the call. I believe the husband was making the call.
[01:39:05.760 --> 01:39:23.760]  And I believe that my sister was raging on him, ragging on him until he picked up the phone and called. And I think if we would have answered—and I should also say all of this started with a phone call from my sister.
[01:39:23.760 --> 01:39:41.760]  And after not talking to her for 25 years, she started out addressing me with threats, telling me I'm an SOB, I'm this, I'm that. So I said, you know, when she was telling me I'm an SOB, I was like, well, I'm in good company.
[01:39:41.760 --> 01:40:02.760]  And the first name that came to mind started with an R. I think I put Randy to sleep.
[01:40:02.760 --> 01:40:05.760]  I said R? You must be spelling it wrong.
[01:40:05.760 --> 01:40:07.760]  I can't think of any Rs.
[01:40:07.760 --> 01:40:13.760]  I can't think of anyone that would fit that description.
[01:40:13.760 --> 01:40:24.760]  Well, I think we need to timestamp this right now because I couldn't swore for a minute that you were speechless.
[01:40:24.760 --> 01:40:35.760]  No, actually, I was catching up on—I've heard this story before, so I wasn't as attuned to it. I was catching up on Telegraph.
[01:40:35.760 --> 01:40:39.760]  I thought you were going to say catching up on your beauty sleep.
[01:40:39.760 --> 01:40:44.760]  Nah, I give up on that.
[01:40:44.760 --> 01:40:56.760]  I thought maybe I had you in a light trance because I was using some of that tone to make you docile.
[01:40:56.760 --> 01:40:58.760]  Oh, good luck with that.
[01:40:58.760 --> 01:41:09.760]  And I have to somehow relieve the stress, so I'm trying to make light of it a little bit.
[01:41:09.760 --> 01:41:18.760]  So back down to business, as far as suing them, the problem with suing anybody is now you're joined at the hip.
[01:41:18.760 --> 01:41:28.760]  And what I really just want is to be left alone and not to be interfered with.
[01:41:28.760 --> 01:41:36.760]  Well, if you don't need some kind of relief from a court, then it doesn't need to be civil.
[01:41:36.760 --> 01:41:41.760]  You can go criminal, and then it's a lot more hands-off for you.
[01:41:41.760 --> 01:41:45.760]  You still have to go through the painstaking process of who, what, when, where.
[01:41:45.760 --> 01:41:55.760]  You still have to pour over all of these just storm clouds of details for what factset applies
[01:41:55.760 --> 01:42:00.760]  so that you can pick out the parts that are essential elements to any given crime.
[01:42:00.760 --> 01:42:05.760]  And you just stack up loads and loads of those crimes until you're tired of it and go ahead and go to sleep.
[01:42:05.760 --> 01:42:10.760]  Next day, you dedicate a certain amount of time to doing the same thing again.
[01:42:10.760 --> 01:42:13.760]  But you're the one that gets to regulate that.
[01:42:13.760 --> 01:42:16.760]  If you're tired of it one day, you just don't want to do any.
[01:42:16.760 --> 01:42:18.760]  So fine, you report no crime that day.
[01:42:18.760 --> 01:42:26.760]  But you get to regulate how involved you are and how many crimes you report per day.
[01:42:26.760 --> 01:42:27.760]  It's up to you.
[01:42:27.760 --> 01:42:35.760]  And you don't have to manage any of that in court because, I mean, yeah, you could theoretically get called in as a witness,
[01:42:35.760 --> 01:42:39.760]  but they're not going to prosecute these people.
[01:42:39.760 --> 01:42:45.760]  So your follow-up is not a court follow-up.
[01:42:45.760 --> 01:42:49.760]  It is another criminal complaint against the one who refused to do so.
[01:42:49.760 --> 01:42:54.760]  So you're putting pressure on them indirectly, you know, Randy's routine stuff.
[01:42:54.760 --> 01:43:01.760]  But it's not like you're joined at the hip as it would be in a civil suit.
[01:43:01.760 --> 01:43:03.760]  That sounds really good.
[01:43:03.760 --> 01:43:12.760]  And just also the investigation by the County Protective Services, the woman,
[01:43:12.760 --> 01:43:21.760]  because, again, the house is exceptionally clean and my mom is being very well taken care of.
[01:43:21.760 --> 01:43:29.760]  And so she left my mom's room, and we were in the living room,
[01:43:29.760 --> 01:43:33.760]  and she said, look, I can't tell you who made the complaint, like I said.
[01:43:33.760 --> 01:43:39.760]  But you got your music coming in, Randy.
[01:43:39.760 --> 01:43:40.760]  Yeah.
[01:43:40.760 --> 01:43:42.760]  Oh, OK.
[01:43:42.760 --> 01:43:43.760]  Hang on.
[01:43:43.760 --> 01:43:46.760]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rue of La Radio.
[01:43:46.760 --> 01:43:48.760]  I just noticed Dr. Jones on the breach.
[01:43:48.760 --> 01:43:51.760]  Brett Fountain, Rue of La Radio.
[01:43:51.760 --> 01:43:52.760]  Hang on.
[01:43:52.760 --> 01:43:55.760]  We've got one more segment, so I'm not going to give us a call at number.
[01:43:55.760 --> 01:43:59.760]  We'll be right back.
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[01:46:22.760 --> 01:46:26.760]  Some things in this world I will never understand
[01:46:26.760 --> 01:46:30.760]  Some things I realize fully
[01:46:30.760 --> 01:46:35.760]  Somebody's gonna police that policeman
[01:46:35.760 --> 01:46:39.760]  Somebody's gonna police the police
[01:46:39.760 --> 01:46:43.760]  There's always a room at the top of the hill
[01:46:43.760 --> 01:46:48.760]  I hear through the grapevine and it's lonely still
[01:46:48.760 --> 01:46:52.760]  They're wishing it was more than opposition to bill
[01:46:52.760 --> 01:46:56.760]  They know that if they don't do it, somebody will
[01:46:56.760 --> 01:47:00.760]  Some things in this world I will never understand
[01:47:00.760 --> 01:47:04.760]  Some things I realize fully
[01:47:04.760 --> 01:47:09.760]  Somebody's gonna police that policeman
[01:47:09.760 --> 01:47:12.760]  Somebody's gonna police the police
[01:47:12.760 --> 01:47:15.760]  I know they will
[01:47:15.760 --> 01:47:18.760]  Yeah, they're gonna put the bill
[01:47:18.760 --> 01:47:21.760]  Cause I see so much injustice still
[01:47:21.760 --> 01:47:23.760]  I know they will
[01:47:23.760 --> 01:47:26.760]  Never fail to tip back that scale
[01:47:26.760 --> 01:47:28.760]  I know they will
[01:47:28.760 --> 01:47:30.760]  Never fail to tip back that scale
[01:47:30.760 --> 01:47:32.760]  I know they will
[01:47:35.760 --> 01:47:37.760]  Okay, we are back.
[01:47:37.760 --> 01:47:39.760]  Brenda Kelton, Brett Fountain of Rule of Law Radio.
[01:47:39.760 --> 01:47:42.760]  And I wanted to jump into this conversation, but I missed part of it last time
[01:47:42.760 --> 01:47:49.760]  Because I've got a kind of a USB internet connection
[01:47:49.760 --> 01:47:52.760]  And it dropped out in that last section
[01:47:52.760 --> 01:47:57.760]  But you were talking about possibly suing your sister
[01:47:57.760 --> 01:48:03.760]  If you're not gonna sue her, send her a tort letter
[01:48:03.760 --> 01:48:06.760]  Notice that you have been harmed
[01:48:06.760 --> 01:48:09.760]  They've damaged your reputation
[01:48:09.760 --> 01:48:14.760]  You've been forced to deal with the police and child protective services over false claims
[01:48:14.760 --> 01:48:22.760]  And make up some number and tell them, make me whole or be sued
[01:48:22.760 --> 01:48:26.760]  Well, how's that fix up if he's not gonna sue her?
[01:48:26.760 --> 01:48:30.760]  Well, you don't have to, but you get her attention
[01:48:30.760 --> 01:48:36.760]  Then if she don't mess with you anymore, you don't sue her
[01:48:36.760 --> 01:48:42.760]  And the thing is, Randy, she has millions
[01:48:42.760 --> 01:48:50.760]  And she, if she had the more money she has, the more she covets that money
[01:48:50.760 --> 01:48:54.760]  And she is not gonna want you to get a piece of it
[01:48:54.760 --> 01:48:58.760]  And she knows you just took on the system and won
[01:48:58.760 --> 01:49:05.760]  You took on the prosecuting attorney big time and won
[01:49:05.760 --> 01:49:10.760]  Yeah, that just about doesn't happen
[01:49:10.760 --> 01:49:13.760]  And so tell her, you want to take me on in court?
[01:49:13.760 --> 01:49:16.760]  We'll see how that works out for you
[01:49:16.760 --> 01:49:23.760]  Or just go back to Reno or wherever you're from and leave me the hell alone
[01:49:23.760 --> 01:49:27.760]  They're doing this all from Reno
[01:49:27.760 --> 01:49:37.760]  So with the investigation, the woman from the county investigator in the living room told me
[01:49:37.760 --> 01:49:45.760]  Look, the claims and all that, that's not really
[01:49:45.760 --> 01:49:55.760]  The files get either unsubstantiated, undetermined or substantiated
[01:49:55.760 --> 01:50:02.760]  This investigation will be closed for unsubstantiated claims
[01:50:02.760 --> 01:50:06.760]  So that's really bad for my sister
[01:50:06.760 --> 01:50:13.760]  Because the accusations she made were all found unsubstantiated
[01:50:13.760 --> 01:50:18.760]  And you remember, you're wasting their time too
[01:50:18.760 --> 01:50:26.760]  Yeah, and well, if she becomes a problem, if she continues to do this
[01:50:26.760 --> 01:50:31.760]  Then send her a tort letter that tends to get people's attention
[01:50:31.760 --> 01:50:35.760]  I don't think I would, if it was my sister, I wouldn't send her any tort letter
[01:50:35.760 --> 01:50:41.760]  I would send her some kind of letter, but maybe put all the same facts in it
[01:50:41.760 --> 01:50:44.760]  But I wouldn't put anything in there about make me whole or be sued
[01:50:44.760 --> 01:50:46.760]  Because I'm not gonna sue my sister
[01:50:46.760 --> 01:50:51.760]  You're speaking to someone he hasn't, he's stayed away from for 25 years
[01:50:51.760 --> 01:51:00.760]  She came in and came after him, apparently because she wants to put the mother in a home and liquidate her property
[01:51:00.760 --> 01:51:04.760]  That's exactly it, she wants control over my mom
[01:51:04.760 --> 01:51:11.760]  Yeah, so this is not, don't even think this is gonna go away
[01:51:11.760 --> 01:51:17.760]  And you made the comment that you know I don't like to see siblings fighting with one another
[01:51:17.760 --> 01:51:20.760]  And I don't, I hate that
[01:51:20.760 --> 01:51:27.760]  But that doesn't mean that you leave yourself unprotected
[01:51:27.760 --> 01:51:33.760]  Lay the groundwork, give her reason not to do this, so it doesn't become a big problem
[01:51:33.760 --> 01:51:38.760]  Yes, and because I don't want any contact with her, I'm not gonna send the letter
[01:51:38.760 --> 01:51:41.760]  But Brett, if it does, come to it
[01:51:41.760 --> 01:51:52.760]  And again, I think I would restrain myself for maybe she'll have to pull one or two more stunts
[01:51:52.760 --> 01:51:55.760]  But on the other hand, you gotta be careful about timing on these things
[01:51:55.760 --> 01:52:02.760]  Because Brett, I suspect her next move, unbelievable as it may seem to you
[01:52:02.760 --> 01:52:06.760]  And given what you know about the situation so far
[01:52:06.760 --> 01:52:12.760]  She is going to file a court action to get conservatorship over my mom
[01:52:12.760 --> 01:52:19.760]  Because she does want to tell my mom what to do
[01:52:19.760 --> 01:52:26.760]  And I think she'll be laughed out of court because she hasn't, in the last 20 years
[01:52:26.760 --> 01:52:31.760]  She's found my mom one time for one day, nine years ago
[01:52:31.760 --> 01:52:33.760]  Wow
[01:52:33.760 --> 01:52:39.760]  And I could subpoena phone records that'll show that I call my mom every night
[01:52:39.760 --> 01:52:43.760]  And my sister might call her, and then six months goes by
[01:52:43.760 --> 01:52:48.760]  Because that one phone call led to an argument that kept them from talking to each other for six months
[01:52:48.760 --> 01:52:53.760]  And then you'll see that there's no phone record of any conversation between the two of them
[01:52:53.760 --> 01:52:56.760]  For over a year here and there, and so on
[01:52:56.760 --> 01:53:06.760]  But really, my sister is trying to come back and she has some kind of act to grind in general
[01:53:06.760 --> 01:53:10.760]  Probably because I walked away from her 25 years ago
[01:53:10.760 --> 01:53:15.760]  She can't handle that rejection, I guess she thought it as rejection
[01:53:15.760 --> 01:53:21.760]  And then three years ago, she didn't get control of my mom
[01:53:21.760 --> 01:53:28.760]  She started talking my mom into selling this house and moving into a retirement home
[01:53:28.760 --> 01:53:32.760]  And at the peak of the pandemic, when everybody in the retirement homes were dying
[01:53:32.760 --> 01:53:35.760]  Or the higher percentage were dying
[01:53:35.760 --> 01:53:43.760]  And I told my mom over the phone, I'm not standing over my mom, over the phone, I'm 700 miles away
[01:53:43.760 --> 01:53:48.760]  I said, well, you might want to go visit the place first, and you might want to do this and that
[01:53:48.760 --> 01:53:55.760]  And I said, if you sell your house and just pack your bags and go to Reno, 1400 miles away
[01:53:55.760 --> 01:53:59.760]  And you get there and you don't like it, you're stuck
[01:53:59.760 --> 01:54:05.760]  And my mom thought about it for a day or two and she said, no, I'm not going to do it
[01:54:05.760 --> 01:54:10.760]  She snapped out of whatever little spell my sister had her under
[01:54:10.760 --> 01:54:15.760]  And that became apparent, that was one of the things why I'm a no good SOB
[01:54:15.760 --> 01:54:20.760]  Is because I talked mom out of going to the rest home three years ago
[01:54:20.760 --> 01:54:25.760]  And so for three years, she's been hating me that I didn't even know about
[01:54:25.760 --> 01:54:30.760]  So that's it
[01:54:30.760 --> 01:54:35.760]  For telling her goodbye 25 years ago and leaving her alone
[01:54:35.760 --> 01:54:37.760]  It didn't bother her at all
[01:54:37.760 --> 01:54:42.760]  And then for her not to be able to, and remember, well, you don't know, Brett
[01:54:42.760 --> 01:54:46.760]  For nine years, I've been coming up here taking care of my mom and the house
[01:54:46.760 --> 01:54:52.760]  And it's progressively become more and more as time has gone by
[01:54:52.760 --> 01:54:57.760]  And my sister's been nowhere and done nothing
[01:54:57.760 --> 01:55:02.760]  And I'm the only one
[01:55:02.760 --> 01:55:07.760]  My other two brothers don't talk to my mom at all, it's pretty sad
[01:55:07.760 --> 01:55:11.760]  Haven't talked to my mom in more than 25 years, both of them
[01:55:11.760 --> 01:55:14.760]  So I'm it, I'm the oldest
[01:55:14.760 --> 01:55:18.760]  Well, there's reason for it, I don't blame them
[01:55:18.760 --> 01:55:21.760]  My mom has always pitted us against each other
[01:55:21.760 --> 01:55:23.760]  And that's part of the problem here
[01:55:23.760 --> 01:55:28.760]  And you see, I want this
[01:55:28.760 --> 01:55:31.760]  I don't know how much time we have left, but I had something
[01:55:31.760 --> 01:55:34.760]  Three minutes
[01:55:34.760 --> 01:55:40.760]  Here I am doing everything I can, all the good I can do
[01:55:40.760 --> 01:55:47.760]  And you look at this person just full on attacking me
[01:55:47.760 --> 01:55:53.760]  And you got the police and the saying that the house is spotless
[01:55:53.760 --> 01:55:57.760]  And cops said the house is cleaner than mine
[01:55:57.760 --> 01:56:01.760]  And stuff like that, my mom's very well taken care of
[01:56:01.760 --> 01:56:06.760]  And now I'm having to deal with this clown show
[01:56:06.760 --> 01:56:11.760]  And that's what it was always with my sister is that she just start a bunch of nonsense for nothing
[01:56:11.760 --> 01:56:13.760]  It was really ridiculous and silly
[01:56:13.760 --> 01:56:16.760]  And I just said the best thing to do is to get away from her
[01:56:16.760 --> 01:56:20.760]  So I wouldn't be one of the people upsetting her
[01:56:20.760 --> 01:56:24.760]  And so, but yeah, she's in here, she's doing all kinds of harm
[01:56:24.760 --> 01:56:27.760]  She's upsetting my mom
[01:56:27.760 --> 01:56:31.760]  And you can tell because we get into, we're in routines here
[01:56:31.760 --> 01:56:34.760]  And we're on a schedule every day
[01:56:34.760 --> 01:56:37.760]  And it's messing my mom up too
[01:56:37.760 --> 01:56:43.760]  And so normally, and I told you this stuff because think about a little bit, Brett
[01:56:43.760 --> 01:56:46.760]  Because I'm kind of with you, I don't want to sue my sister
[01:56:46.760 --> 01:56:50.760]  But like Randy said, haven't seen her or talked to her in 25 years
[01:56:50.760 --> 01:56:56.760]  Except this time now where she's coming out of the woodwork after 25 years
[01:56:56.760 --> 01:57:00.760]  And she's quote unquote, she's going to get me
[01:57:00.760 --> 01:57:02.760]  And I better watch my back
[01:57:02.760 --> 01:57:09.760]  And maybe you can preserve the facts in some kind of letter like that
[01:57:09.760 --> 01:57:14.760]  Or say, you know, look, you brought this, they found it was unsubstantiated
[01:57:14.760 --> 01:57:16.760]  You've sure caused a lot of trouble for the family
[01:57:16.760 --> 01:57:20.760]  Mama told you to knock it off and you haven't
[01:57:20.760 --> 01:57:27.760]  You know, lay this stuff out there so that a jury of your peers would look at that and get the picture
[01:57:27.760 --> 01:57:30.760]  And yet not having to threaten a lawsuit
[01:57:30.760 --> 01:57:35.760]  I know what's wrong. I figured out what your problem is, Ted
[01:57:35.760 --> 01:57:39.760]  You are estrogen intolerant
[01:57:39.760 --> 01:57:47.760]  I had a friend that had never been married and that's what he claimed
[01:57:47.760 --> 01:57:49.760]  He was estrogen intolerant
[01:57:49.760 --> 01:57:52.760]  And we're going to have all the women PO'd at us at this point
[01:57:52.760 --> 01:57:56.760]  And it looks like we have a first time caller
[01:57:56.760 --> 01:58:00.760]  But it's not a lady, she's going to get upset with you
[01:58:00.760 --> 01:58:08.760]  It says she has to see she, so she may want to use her fingers on us
[01:58:08.760 --> 01:58:10.760]  But we are out of time
[01:58:10.760 --> 01:58:15.760]  This is Randy Kalk and Brett Fountain Wheelbarrow Radio
[01:58:15.760 --> 01:58:19.760]  We'll be back tomorrow night on our four hour info marathon
[01:58:19.760 --> 01:58:26.760]  We start at eight o'clock and Brett will be here
[01:58:26.760 --> 01:58:31.760]  I tried to get Brett in a fight with his wife tonight, he wouldn't go for it
[01:58:31.760 --> 01:58:33.760]  He called me a chicken
[01:58:33.760 --> 01:58:39.760]  Well hey, this first time caller, you from 416, I hope you'll call us back tomorrow night
[01:58:39.760 --> 01:58:45.760]  We'd love to take your call, just right now we're at the tail end of the show
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