[00:00.000 --> 00:05.680]  The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution.
[00:05.680 --> 00:09.320]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[00:09.320 --> 00:10.800]  Our liberty depends on it.
[00:10.800 --> 00:14.740]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember
[00:14.740 --> 00:16.840]  your First Amendment rights.
[00:16.840 --> 00:18.440]  Privacy is under attack.
[00:18.440 --> 00:22.040]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[00:22.040 --> 00:26.800]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[00:26.800 --> 00:31.880]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
[00:31.880 --> 00:34.560]  Privacy, it's worth hanging onto.
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[00:44.600 --> 00:47.680]  Spar, it's what fighters do.
[00:47.680 --> 00:50.720]  It's also how I remember the five guarantees of the First Amendment.
[00:50.720 --> 00:54.360]  If you plan to take away my rights, I'm going to spar with you.
[00:54.360 --> 01:01.480]  Spar with an extra P, S for speech, P for press, another P for petition, A for assembly,
[01:01.480 --> 01:02.840]  and R for religion.
[01:02.840 --> 01:06.960]  Most Americans are familiar with the First Amendment guarantees of free speech, press,
[01:06.960 --> 01:08.420]  assembly, and religion.
[01:08.420 --> 01:10.760]  But petition for redress is another matter.
[01:10.760 --> 01:14.480]  We have the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
[01:14.480 --> 01:18.000]  It means that if we're unhappy with what's going on in our government, we can spell out
[01:18.000 --> 01:20.680]  the reasons without fear of being thrown into jail.
[01:20.680 --> 01:22.640]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht.
[01:22.640 --> 01:31.000]  More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[01:31.000 --> 01:34.680]  The Bill of Rights contains the first 10 amendments of our Constitution.
[01:34.680 --> 01:38.120]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[01:38.120 --> 01:39.600]  Our liberty depends on it.
[01:39.600 --> 01:43.520]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember
[01:43.520 --> 01:46.640]  one of your constitutional rights.
[01:46.640 --> 01:48.240]  Privacy is under attack.
[01:48.240 --> 01:51.840]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[01:51.840 --> 01:56.600]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish, too.
[01:56.600 --> 02:01.640]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
[02:01.640 --> 02:04.360]  Privacy, it's worth hanging on to.
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[02:14.280 --> 02:20.120]  When I think of the Second Amendment, I visualize myself wrapping my two arms around the Bill
[02:20.120 --> 02:22.200]  of Rights in a big old bear hug.
[02:22.200 --> 02:26.680]  It's how I remember that the Second Amendment guarantees us the right to bear arms, arms
[02:26.680 --> 02:30.560]  that embrace our freedoms and won't let anyone take them away without a fight.
[02:30.560 --> 02:31.560]  Get it?
[02:31.560 --> 02:32.560]  Two arms?
[02:32.560 --> 02:33.560]  Bear hug?
[02:33.560 --> 02:34.560]  Bear arms?
[02:34.560 --> 02:37.440]  The late Senator Hubert Humphrey captured the spirit of the Second Amendment so well
[02:37.440 --> 02:38.680]  when he said,
[02:38.680 --> 02:43.640]  The right of the citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary government,
[02:43.640 --> 02:48.720]  one more safeguard against the tyranny, which now appears remote in America, but which historically
[02:48.720 --> 02:50.480]  has proved to always be possible.
[02:50.480 --> 02:52.360]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht.
[02:52.360 --> 03:21.120]  More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[03:22.960 --> 03:44.160]  the right of the citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary government,
[03:44.160 --> 04:02.000]  one more safeguard against the tyranny, which now appears remote in America, but which
[04:02.000 --> 04:21.800]  now appears remote in America, but which now appears remote in America, but which now
[04:21.800 --> 04:46.800]  appears remote in America, but which now appears remote in America, but which now
[04:46.800 --> 05:02.200]  appears remote in America, but which now appears remote in America, but which now appears
[05:02.200 --> 05:18.320]  remote in America, but which now appears remote in America, but which now appears
[05:18.320 --> 05:25.740]  remote in America, but which now appears remote in America, but
[05:25.740 --> 05:35.280]  really arrogant and dismissive through this whole thing. I attended three Zoom
[05:35.280 --> 05:42.720]  hearings and he was not happy with any of them and then I didn't hear anything
[05:42.720 --> 05:48.720]  else from the court and the next thing I know I get pulled over and get noticed
[05:48.720 --> 05:58.860]  that my license has been suspended. Well, it turned out it was suspended because I
[05:58.860 --> 06:10.260]  missed two court hearings. So I contacted the city of Rome, Texas and wanted to know what
[06:10.260 --> 06:20.580]  the deal was and I filed a notice of change of plea to Nolo Contende and
[06:20.580 --> 06:27.180]  gave them a notice of intent to appeal and an affidavit for inability
[06:27.180 --> 06:34.900]  to pay and went into their little courtroom and the judge sat there and did
[06:34.900 --> 06:42.060]  his little deal until it got to me and when it got to me he informed me that
[06:42.060 --> 06:48.660]  this was a court of record and turned on had the clerk turn on the recording.
[06:48.660 --> 06:54.740]  Now he didn't do that for anybody else. Wow, how about that? I think he made a
[06:54.740 --> 07:04.180]  tactical error because he stated on the record that this was a court of record.
[07:04.180 --> 07:19.340]  So I want a copy of the recordings of all the other hearings I attended where
[07:19.340 --> 07:28.540]  he denied my challenge to subject matter jurisdiction, where he
[07:28.540 --> 07:35.260]  blew off everything. I filed criminal charges against his clerk and he refused
[07:35.260 --> 07:41.660]  to issue warrants. Oh, he just screwed up everything. But this time he was not
[07:41.660 --> 07:51.180]  quite so arrogant because he saw that I was appealing it out of his court and he
[07:51.180 --> 07:57.980]  went down. I had a affidavit of inability to pay that I got from a template from a
[07:57.980 --> 08:04.340]  friend of mine and it listed apparently all of the stuff they consider and he
[08:04.340 --> 08:09.660]  asked me about each one of them. Do I have know anybody I could borrow money
[08:09.660 --> 08:18.700]  from? Do I have anything I could sell? I don't think you're required to do any of
[08:18.700 --> 08:31.020]  that. But I told him no anyway and he granted me indigency status and so I
[08:31.020 --> 08:38.860]  didn't have to pay the $800 bond they had set. That failure to appear had a $600
[08:38.860 --> 08:49.140]  bond all by itself. I asked the prosecutor to get me a copy of the
[08:49.140 --> 08:58.260]  email off the server where the clerk emailed me to notice me about the
[08:58.260 --> 09:06.460]  hearing. Well, she didn't have it. Surprise, surprise. Yeah, because she didn't email me.
[09:06.460 --> 09:12.620]  She mailed these. Well, in that case, I want to see the return receipt you
[09:12.620 --> 09:22.180]  received to prove that you mailed him. She said we don't have to do that. So you
[09:22.180 --> 09:28.260]  don't have to do that. All of the other hearings that I appeared at, you
[09:28.260 --> 09:36.860]  emailed notice to appear. But the two that I didn't appear at, you didn't email
[09:36.860 --> 09:46.780]  those. You snail mail on those. It's not looking very good. Yeah. How does this
[09:46.780 --> 09:53.820]  happen? I want to see all of the copies of all of the notices to appear that you
[09:53.820 --> 09:59.620]  have sent by mail. That's what I'm going to request. I'm going to do it under
[09:59.620 --> 10:09.240]  discovery when I get my appeal into the County Court. The judge in the County
[10:09.240 --> 10:16.020]  Court is someone I've known for 30 years. I wouldn't say we're friends. We are
[10:16.020 --> 10:23.740]  good acquaintances and we have a mutual respect for one another. And he knows I
[10:23.740 --> 10:31.020]  know the code, the law, better than he does. So it'll be interesting to see how
[10:31.020 --> 10:35.980]  this shakes out, because I'm going to ask him to issue warrants against the
[10:35.980 --> 10:41.380]  sheriff and the clerk. Of course. I'm sorry, I said sheriff and clerk. Against
[10:41.380 --> 10:48.420]  the judge and the clerk. And we'll see how that shakes out. And if he doesn't
[10:48.420 --> 10:54.900]  want to issue warrants, he's going to also know that you know he must. Yeah, he
[10:54.900 --> 10:58.620]  knows I'll file criminal charges against him because I've already done that to
[10:58.620 --> 11:08.380]  some other guys. The district judge, for one. The district attorney. He used to
[11:08.380 --> 11:14.500]  be the district attorney. And I never had opportunity or reason to file against
[11:14.500 --> 11:21.100]  him. We get a new one, and I have opportunity and reason to file against
[11:21.100 --> 11:31.180]  the new one. So I'll wind up putting the judge on the dime. And I'll ask him to
[11:31.180 --> 11:39.740]  do exactly what the law commands him to do. And I believe he will do it. I don't
[11:39.740 --> 11:46.580]  think he wants to get in a fight with me. You seriously think he's going to
[11:46.580 --> 11:54.260]  issue warrants for the other judge and his own clerk? I put a criminal affidavit
[11:54.260 --> 11:59.580]  in his hand, accusing the district judge of first degree felony aggravated
[11:59.580 --> 12:06.620]  assault. And he walked in and handed it to the foreman, the grand jury, and told
[12:06.620 --> 12:14.100]  him here, handle this, I'm out of here, and walked back out. He gave criminal
[12:14.100 --> 12:21.620]  charges. Smart man. Yes, he knew I knew what I was doing. And he didn't want to
[12:21.620 --> 12:28.940]  get in a fight with me. So I'm going to make this as easy for him as I can. I'm
[12:28.940 --> 12:33.780]  not going to dump everything on him. There are a couple of things I need a
[12:33.780 --> 12:40.580]  ruling on. And I'm going to put him on the dime to give me that ruling. I'm
[12:40.580 --> 12:48.300]  going to file a motion to dismiss for denial of speed trial, a motion to
[12:48.300 --> 12:59.740]  dismiss for lack of a indictment, and motion to dismiss for lack of a 16.17
[12:59.740 --> 13:11.860]  order in the public record. See how this shakes out. And I'll tell him, and I
[13:11.860 --> 13:17.180]  really don't care how you rule. It doesn't matter. Because I really do need
[13:17.180 --> 13:22.940]  to get this to the appellate court. I need to force the appellate court to
[13:22.940 --> 13:34.060]  rule on these issues. We need good case law to fix this. And I have my criminal
[13:34.060 --> 13:42.620]  my civil suit against all the highest judges in Texas where I raised these
[13:42.620 --> 13:51.660]  issues and accused them of training magistrates in practices and procedure
[13:51.660 --> 13:58.700]  that are what's commonly practiced but violate all these issues.
[13:58.700 --> 14:04.500]  It seems kind of serendipitous that you would end up with the timing of these
[14:04.500 --> 14:13.980]  two issues coming together. Not exactly. I filed a change of plea and
[14:13.980 --> 14:23.100]  notice of appeal for this reason so that I would get it in front of this judge at
[14:23.100 --> 14:30.780]  this time. Because I wasn't finished fighting with the city yet. They hadn't
[14:30.780 --> 14:35.580]  screwed up everything that they could have, but I wanted this in front of this
[14:35.580 --> 14:46.060]  judge so I could move it past him into the Court of Appeals. So it's all
[14:46.060 --> 14:55.180]  working out pretty good. I got this ticket in March of last year. And they
[14:55.180 --> 15:04.660]  accused me of not appearing in July. So I'm gonna claim that was everything
[15:04.660 --> 15:08.100]  after that. They're going to claim against me, but I'm going to claim they
[15:08.100 --> 15:15.940]  deliberately did not notice me. That this is a pattern of behavior. And then I'm
[15:15.940 --> 15:20.820]  going to request discovery. I'm going to want to see all of their their notices to
[15:20.820 --> 15:30.440]  appeal that were mailed by this clerk and do that under discovery. They're
[15:30.440 --> 15:36.500]  trying to charge me with failure to appear, and that's a class B misdemeanor.
[15:38.500 --> 15:49.620]  And I'm maintaining that they conspired to false charges. Yeah. This is gonna be
[15:49.620 --> 15:55.700]  fun. And file criminally against the judge and the clerk and then sue them
[15:55.700 --> 16:03.380]  both. I've already got them where I can sue them in their individual capacities.
[16:03.380 --> 16:10.940]  Because some stuff, I'm gonna run out of time on this segment, but the clerk, when
[16:10.940 --> 16:15.980]  I first appeared, I gave her a bunch of motions and she didn't recognize that as
[16:15.980 --> 16:23.940]  an appearance. So she wound up giving me a notice of a failure to appear and
[16:23.940 --> 16:27.820]  reported it to the Department of Public Safety so I couldn't get my license
[16:27.820 --> 16:35.620]  renewed. And when I instructed her, she changed it right away, but it's too late.
[16:35.620 --> 16:45.300]  I've got the letter from the DPS refusing to renew my license. Oh, now they have a
[16:45.300 --> 16:48.860]  problem. Okay, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain,
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[19:30.180 --> 19:43.180]  The world is spinning like it's out of control, on the edge of a hole, inside a deep dark
[19:43.180 --> 19:53.180]  hole. I'm always on the lookout for something to soothe my soul. So I sit back and I watch
[19:53.180 --> 20:09.180]  the evidence unfold and I see justice is the goal. Yeah, justice is the goal.
[20:09.180 --> 20:16.180]  Sometimes we sail a little too far at sea and then we got to get back on course quickly
[20:16.180 --> 20:23.180]  so we go under heavy advisory from the man that came over. Okay, we are back.
[20:23.180 --> 20:28.180]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio and we're going to our callers.
[20:28.180 --> 20:36.180]  We have what appears to be a first-time caller. This says David and 702.
[20:36.180 --> 20:42.180]  We looked that up. That's Denver. So if you're from Colorado, make sure the first
[20:42.180 --> 20:50.180]  name is right and make sure our state is right.
[20:50.180 --> 20:57.180]  Oh, I guess I should unmute you. Okay, we've got Chris from Colorado on the line and he's
[20:57.180 --> 21:02.180]  from the same area, but he's not the one we're talking to. If you're from Colorado,
[21:02.180 --> 21:04.180]  talk to us.
[21:04.180 --> 21:06.180]  Yes, it's David. Can you hear me?
[21:06.180 --> 21:07.180]  Yes, we can hear you.
[21:07.180 --> 21:12.180]  Hello? Okay, I'm from Kansas basically. I have a Colorado number.
[21:12.180 --> 21:17.180]  Oh, okay. David from Kansas.
[21:17.180 --> 21:25.180]  I have a question for you guys. I have my own case going. When you challenge, you know,
[21:25.180 --> 21:30.180]  you're in court, you're standing there, how do you, because your motion to dismiss is
[21:30.180 --> 21:37.180]  only as good as you can defend it. Is that correct? Would that be a correct statement?
[21:37.180 --> 21:41.180]  Wait a minute. Say that again. It's only as good as what?
[21:41.180 --> 21:47.180]  Your motion to dismiss that you write can be completely perfect, but unless you can
[21:47.180 --> 21:53.180]  defend it, it's not as good. Would that be like a correct way to put it?
[21:53.180 --> 21:56.180]  No, that's not okay.
[21:56.180 --> 22:01.180]  Sometimes a judge will ask you to go ahead, when you've got a motion in, you go to the
[22:01.180 --> 22:08.180]  motions hearing and the judge will ask you about it. Like, it's almost like trying to
[22:08.180 --> 22:12.180]  feel you out and see if you really know what it was you wrote and what it means and so
[22:12.180 --> 22:16.180]  forth, but you don't have to stand there and recite everything. You can if you want
[22:16.180 --> 22:20.180]  to. You could read it off or you can just say, well, Your Honor, I'd like to stand
[22:20.180 --> 22:25.180]  on my pleadings. So everything that you've written there, you carefully crafted it.
[22:25.180 --> 22:29.180]  You spent the time to put your motion together the way you want to say it, exactly
[22:29.180 --> 22:36.180]  right. And once you're done, you can just say that you stand on your pleadings and
[22:36.180 --> 22:39.180]  there it is.
[22:39.180 --> 22:47.180]  And I suggest that if you are not a learned counsel and experienced attorney, that you
[22:47.180 --> 22:56.180]  object to oral argument as is patently unfair for a pro se and move the court to make its
[22:56.180 --> 23:03.180]  determinations on the pleadings. And I did what I, you know, I do this a lot, so I'm
[23:03.180 --> 23:09.180]  pretty comfortable talking to the judge. But I did what I suggest other people do. The
[23:09.180 --> 23:14.180]  judge said he wanted me to argue the pleadings, so I started reading it. He said, Mr.
[23:14.180 --> 23:19.180]  Kelton, you're just reading the pleading. Yes, I am. And if you want me to keep reading
[23:19.180 --> 23:25.180]  the pleading, I'll keep reading the pleading. But if you want me to bandy words with this
[23:25.180 --> 23:31.180]  prosecutor over here, that's not going to happen. I'm going to stand on my pleadings.
[23:31.180 --> 23:36.180]  And the judge was frustrated, but he didn't ask me to continue reading the pleading. So
[23:36.180 --> 23:43.180]  it's not what you say in court that's most important. It's what's in your document that
[23:43.180 --> 23:54.180]  matters. Okay. And when you're in there and you say, just for an example, you're wanting
[23:54.180 --> 23:59.180]  to stand on your pleadings and you're asking them for something, you know, because we want
[23:59.180 --> 24:06.180]  to make them prove their claim, how do we say, like, can you please show me the record
[24:06.180 --> 24:12.180]  with the evidence that they have standing for the subject matter jurisdiction, basically?
[24:12.180 --> 24:19.180]  Well, you should already have anything they want to present to the court should already
[24:19.180 --> 24:26.180]  be presented to the court and to you. You're supposed to get a copy of it prior.
[24:26.180 --> 24:33.180]  Okay. Otherwise, you have trial by ambush. You need to be able to see all of this stuff
[24:33.180 --> 24:41.180]  before you come into court so you can formulate your objections and formulate briefs in support
[24:41.180 --> 24:48.180]  of your position. Okay. That helps. Thank you. I appreciate it. I'm very learned. I've
[24:48.180 --> 24:53.180]  got jurisdictionary.com and, and I've listened to Brett all through his speeding tickets.
[24:53.180 --> 24:57.180]  So I appreciate you guys' help and I'll let you guys go to the next call. I just wanted
[24:57.180 --> 25:05.180]  to call in and say hello and ask one question. Okay. Don't be a stranger. And it happens
[25:05.180 --> 25:12.180]  that we have another calling behind you and his area code is also seven two zero. Well,
[25:12.180 --> 25:18.180]  you'll see in your chat room. I'm, I'm king man. Just let you know. So thank you. Okay.
[25:18.180 --> 25:25.180]  Thank you, David. Okay. Now we're going to go to Chris in Colorado. Hello, Chris. What
[25:25.180 --> 25:32.180]  do you have for us today? Hello, gentlemen. Um, I hope we have another, just a quick question
[25:32.180 --> 25:39.180]  about discovery. I'm, I'm hashing through all this and, um, I read through, let's see,
[25:39.180 --> 25:45.180]  where do I start? Um, the subpoena that I, that I submitted. Okay. I called you guys
[25:45.180 --> 25:50.180]  a week or two ago and I said that the, uh, insurance company responded and asked for
[25:50.180 --> 25:53.180]  two more weeks or asked for another week on top of the week that was left. And then all
[25:53.180 --> 25:58.180]  of a sudden the same day they got back to me and said, nevermind. Well, I went through
[25:58.180 --> 26:03.180]  all their material and the reason they went, nevermind is because they, they threw out
[26:03.180 --> 26:13.180]  this blanket, um, firm that falls in with, uh, attorney client privilege, insurer insurer
[26:13.180 --> 26:21.180]  privilege. And now there's this thing called work product privilege. So the, uh, insurance
[26:21.180 --> 26:26.680]  company is not using any, any, any attorney client privilege, but they are using insured
[26:26.680 --> 26:32.220]  insured privilege. And now this thing called work product protection. And it's basically
[26:32.220 --> 26:36.820]  all the same BS. They, they're just stating that, that, you know, everything they're,
[26:36.820 --> 26:42.380]  they're using is protected, but the courts are very clear. The only way any of this stuff
[26:42.380 --> 26:48.100]  is protected as if it was for some preparation for litigation or advice from a lawyer to
[26:48.100 --> 26:56.020]  and from anybody within the parties. Um, so I'm just, I guess I'm frustrated. I'm not
[26:56.020 --> 27:02.180]  sure how to just smack these people hard. They're playing. I just, I'm baffled by the,
[27:02.180 --> 27:08.100]  the almost childness of, of some of these lawyers and how the courts allow them to get
[27:08.100 --> 27:14.680]  away with this. Why would a judge who's gone to the system themselves just allow this type
[27:14.680 --> 27:19.460]  of language and why does it continue? I guess is a question of mine.
[27:19.460 --> 27:28.540]  Well, they all have their snouts in the same trough. You are not a lawyer, so you're not
[27:28.540 --> 27:37.660]  part of their fraternity. All of these judges are also lawyers. So, you know, I tell people
[27:37.660 --> 27:45.400]  that when you go into court, it's like sitting down at a four sided chessboard. You have
[27:45.400 --> 27:52.040]  your, you sit down and you have your attorney to your right, opposing counsel to your left,
[27:52.040 --> 27:58.740]  the judge across from you. Well, you have a relationship with your attorney and your
[27:58.740 --> 28:04.540]  attorney has a relationship with opposing counsel and both attorneys have a relationship
[28:04.540 --> 28:11.000]  with the judge. It's all about relationships. If you're going to win your case, you need
[28:11.000 --> 28:20.020]  to get inside these relationships. You're in there without counsel. So nobody has a
[28:20.020 --> 28:29.340]  relationship with you. You're an outsider. So this is a three sided chessboard. You should
[28:29.340 --> 28:38.280]  think of it that way. How, how do you play the lawyers against the judge and the judge
[28:38.280 --> 28:48.940]  against the lawyers? Well, one way is to bar grieve the lawyers. And then when the judge
[28:48.940 --> 28:54.940]  rules in favor of the lawyers arbitrarily or capriciously, you file a judicial conduct
[28:54.940 --> 29:03.460]  complaint against him. Now judges don't get many judicial conduct complaints against them
[29:03.460 --> 29:12.500]  because lawyers don't dare do that or they'll get squashed. The judges will hammer them
[29:12.500 --> 29:16.500]  big time and they know it. So they tend to leave the judges alone. They let the judge
[29:16.500 --> 29:24.600]  do pretty much whatever they want to. Then they get a pro se in there. A pro se can hammer
[29:24.600 --> 29:29.340]  the judge all he wants to. Now you may think, okay, if I'm mean to the judge, the judge
[29:29.340 --> 29:38.420]  is likely to be mean to you. That's naive. You have to assume the judge is going to rule
[29:38.420 --> 29:50.260]  against you out of hand at every turn. So be the citizen in the Republic. Spank them
[29:50.260 --> 29:58.060]  all. Hang on. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, the group of La Radio. I call it number 512-646-1984.
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[33:28.860 --> 33:47.500]  I need a prosecutor to come and help me. Prosecute them wicked leader, you see. Them murderers
[33:47.500 --> 33:52.940]  are liars, them tell me. Them are liars, they tell sweet stories. Me not believe me, say
[33:52.940 --> 33:58.740]  what them tell me. 3% of America vote for Bushy. So how the hell he get the presidency?
[33:58.740 --> 34:04.740]  That's why me have a warrant for he. Everybody listen carefully. Listen to the words of the
[34:04.740 --> 34:15.740]  three shoes Posse. Citizens arrest from Mr. Bushy. Have a warrant for Nick Cheney. Citizens
[34:15.740 --> 34:26.940]  arrest Mr. Bushy. Have a warrant for Nick Cheney. Well we not forget Rumsfield, warrant
[34:26.940 --> 34:32.540]  for him. I'll be cheney, warrant for him. Fight about the citizens in the country. Them
[34:32.540 --> 34:38.660]  get in so bad. Okay, howdy, howdy. We are back. Randy Kelcom, Brett Fountain, Root
[34:38.660 --> 34:49.100]  of Law Radio on this, the 16th day of June 2023. And we're talking to Chris in Colorado.
[34:49.100 --> 34:55.540]  We have our phone lines open. So if you have a question or comment, give us a call. Okay
[34:55.540 --> 35:07.340]  Chris. Yeah, they're always screw around with discovery. They always make the judge
[35:07.340 --> 35:19.860]  order discovery, so expect that. And then beat them up, you can do that. Lawyers can't.
[35:19.860 --> 35:29.260]  The bar grieve the lawyer for misrepresenting the truth about the discovery to the court.
[35:29.260 --> 35:36.540]  And the bar is not going to do anything about it, especially in Colorado. I talked to the
[35:36.540 --> 35:42.300]  state bar association and asked them where to file a bar grievance. Oh, you need to file
[35:42.300 --> 35:54.100]  that with us. Liar, liar, pants on fire. The bar association themselves? Yeah. In Colorado,
[35:54.100 --> 35:59.220]  you don't file bar grievances with the bar association. You file them with the Colorado
[35:59.220 --> 36:09.900]  Supreme Court. They lied to me. You should never ask a lawyer a question you don't already
[36:09.900 --> 36:18.260]  know the answer to. And I had fun bar grieving the lawyers, state bar association lawyers
[36:18.260 --> 36:29.300]  for lying to me. There you go. Okay, are you there, Chris? They were ready to just go ahead
[36:29.300 --> 36:38.620]  and, hey, we'll throw that in the trash for you. Yeah. Well, now I'm in two states at
[36:38.620 --> 36:44.700]  this point. Now Illinois is where the original suit is. And I've got plenty of lawyers to
[36:44.700 --> 36:51.900]  bar grieve there, but then we got this new guy is from Minnesota. And so he's answering
[36:51.900 --> 36:58.500]  for the insurance company. I'll look up the Minnesota rules, but I'm pretty sure he's
[36:58.500 --> 37:04.100]  violating some stuff there, but he's also violating federal rules across borders for
[37:04.100 --> 37:18.300]  a suit that he got subpoena for in Illinois. Is he authorized to practice in Illinois?
[37:18.300 --> 37:26.020]  I don't think so, but I don't know that for sure. He's just answering for the insurance
[37:26.020 --> 37:31.340]  company. Well, okay, you sued the insurance company, so you will have sued them either
[37:31.340 --> 37:39.060]  in the Fed or in Minnesota. No, I sued, I originally did sue the insurance company,
[37:39.060 --> 37:44.220]  but I dismissed them and then I refiled their, they don't know they're going to get sued
[37:44.220 --> 37:48.340]  yet. So this doesn't have anything to do with that separate suit. I'm going to file that.
[37:48.340 --> 37:52.140]  I'm waiting to, I'm waiting to serve them. I should say that it's already been filed,
[37:52.140 --> 37:57.700]  but he's, his title is claims counsel. Okay. So he's a lawyer for the, for the insurance
[37:57.700 --> 38:07.220]  company, but I'm assuming he'll be, he'll be, he'll be licensed in Minnesota.
[38:07.220 --> 38:13.060]  Now you have a lawsuit in Illinois. Right. But that's only, it's against their insurer,
[38:13.060 --> 38:23.260]  the tow company. And you don't, okay. But if he, is he in representing the insurance
[38:23.260 --> 38:30.520]  company's interest in this case? No, the insurance company had to hire a separate firm
[38:30.520 --> 38:34.580]  in Illinois because they're not, they're not, they're, they're businesses, you know, they're
[38:34.580 --> 38:40.220]  outside of, they're in Minnesota. They're only licensed to sell insurance policies in
[38:40.220 --> 38:47.740]  Illinois. That's it. So they don't have any council that, that works for them in Illinois.
[38:47.740 --> 38:54.300]  That's where I was getting to. So if they have a Minnesota lawyer, he couldn't represent
[38:54.300 --> 39:00.340]  them in Illinois. So this is a Minnesota lawyer in Minnesota.
[39:00.340 --> 39:05.500]  Yeah. Answering a subpoena from Illinois federal court.
[39:05.500 --> 39:14.300]  Oh, is he licensed to practice in the federal court?
[39:14.300 --> 39:21.580]  I don't know. He's the one who answered the subpoena that I sent. So that's all.
[39:21.580 --> 39:26.380]  Can he answer a subpoena in a federal court if he's not authorized to practice in a federal
[39:26.380 --> 39:27.380]  court?
[39:27.380 --> 39:34.940]  Well, it'd be like me subpoenaing, you know, anybody who's not a lawyer. If I, if I subpoena
[39:34.940 --> 39:40.380]  a business, they're going to answer it. Um, but since...
[39:40.380 --> 39:47.420]  Yeah, but it depends, how they answer depends on whether, whether it's a state subpoena
[39:47.420 --> 39:54.700]  or a federal subpoena. Now a private party can answer, like the private, if it was an
[39:54.700 --> 40:03.140]  individual, but this is an insurance company and the executives of the insurance company
[40:03.140 --> 40:09.380]  can't answer. They have to hire counsel. And counselor is, counsel is representing the
[40:09.380 --> 40:16.060]  insurance company's interest in a federal suit. This guy has to be licensed for practicing
[40:16.060 --> 40:17.060]  the Fed.
[40:17.060 --> 40:21.940]  Well, he could be. He could be.
[40:21.940 --> 40:25.780]  It would be a good question to ask.
[40:25.780 --> 40:32.180]  Yeah. Because he didn't answer it like a normal civilian would. He answered it as if it's
[40:32.180 --> 40:38.500]  a brief from, you know, emotion and opposition to compel. Like he's already preparing for
[40:38.500 --> 40:42.180]  that and you can read, you can see it.
[40:42.180 --> 40:49.180]  And what you said earlier, I had a thought. They always give the new attorneys the pro
[40:49.180 --> 40:59.660]  se. So it may be the new attorney is trying to show his behind and demonstrate to his
[40:59.660 --> 41:08.900]  bosses how valuable he is to them. So Bargrieve.
[41:08.900 --> 41:15.020]  Well, I plan to, and I plan to Bargrieve his bosses that he mentioned in here too, or some
[41:15.020 --> 41:22.060]  other people he mentioned in here. Oh, nevermind. Yeah. He, these are from, these are people
[41:22.060 --> 41:25.540]  from previous who are going to get Bargrieve, but he just reminded me who they were. These
[41:25.540 --> 41:29.820]  were, these were other councils for that insurance company.
[41:29.820 --> 41:33.700]  But the other part that's funny is I emailed him today and I just let him know that your
[41:33.700 --> 41:38.420]  response is deficient. I expect an expansion on your, on your response. Cause I'm not playing
[41:38.420 --> 41:42.820]  that basically pointed out. This is, this is a common tactic that you dumb, some lawyers
[41:42.820 --> 41:49.500]  use and I already know that I read the case. And so I'd like you to expand before you get
[41:49.500 --> 41:54.940]  emotion and compel. And I get this automatic reply and it says, I will be out from June
[41:54.940 --> 42:02.140]  8th till the 18th. And the letter in the email that he sent me was on the 7th stating that
[42:02.140 --> 42:07.620]  I needed an extra two weeks. And then the day before he takes off on vacation, he just
[42:07.620 --> 42:14.860]  goes and sends me this BS. So, I mean, these guys are just, they're really sad, you know?
[42:14.860 --> 42:20.300]  I mean, it's just really sad. I guess that was that that's because lawyers generally
[42:20.300 --> 42:26.900]  don't beat up lawyers. The client is sitting back there and they wouldn't like this stuff,
[42:26.900 --> 42:32.180]  but the lawyers don't care. The lawyers all have their snouts in the same trough.
[42:32.180 --> 42:37.860]  The more billable hours, the more delay that's the better for their pocket.
[42:37.860 --> 42:46.380]  And then when a pro se comes along, they figure you're ignorant and they can do anything you
[42:46.380 --> 42:55.260]  want to to you. The worst thing for them is a knowledgeable pro se. Because now all of
[42:55.260 --> 42:59.580]  a sudden they're getting their butt, they give it to the newest lawyer in the place
[42:59.580 --> 43:07.580]  who's most likely to screw up the most. And like I got one where I filed a petition for
[43:07.580 --> 43:14.860]  declaratory judgment and Lock Lord, one of the biggest law firms in the country responded.
[43:14.860 --> 43:24.500]  And the guy responded with a 12B6. Oops. The whole purpose of declaratory judgment was
[43:24.500 --> 43:37.100]  to avoid a 12B6. The judge granted the 12B6 and dismissed with prejudice. So I filed criminal
[43:37.100 --> 43:43.620]  charges against the judge with a special agent in charge of the Dallas FBI.
[43:43.620 --> 43:53.100]  Oh, that was so much fun. Hang on, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rue La Radio. I'll call in
[43:53.100 --> 44:00.660]  number 512-646-1984. We'll be right back.
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[46:04.340 --> 46:27.540]  Whoa whoa... whoa whoa... yeah... cause I always... I must be careful what I'm wishing
[46:27.540 --> 46:35.300]  what i'm wishing for when i'm hungry i like to know just what i'm fishing for
[46:35.300 --> 46:44.820]  i ain't asking for much i ain't trying to be no glutton i'm just here making my living pushing buttons
[46:44.820 --> 46:55.780]  i get my message out to anyone in shot and distance i vote for bravery okay
[46:55.780 --> 47:02.340]  we are back randy kelton brett fountain radio talking to chris in colorado chris you're in a
[47:02.340 --> 47:07.860]  good position nothing worse than a knowledgeable pro se
[47:07.860 --> 47:14.820]  day and one one that's at least at least a little bit ruthless
[47:17.940 --> 47:25.540]  yeah i'm i'm i'm way past patient i'm wait i'm patient but i'm way past timidness that's for
[47:25.540 --> 47:32.420]  sure i mean i guess the word's not getting around but the thing is is that's interesting is that they
[47:32.980 --> 47:37.140]  this is i'm learning the hard way or i'm learning the way there's only one way to learn
[47:37.140 --> 47:44.820]  is going through this is that this is how it works and no wonder it's messed up when you have
[47:46.020 --> 47:52.740]  judges who tolerate this the only reason that lawyers are continuing to throw the entire kitchen
[47:52.740 --> 47:59.700]  sink at the courts is because the judges allow it they don't reprimand enough so why why are
[47:59.700 --> 48:04.980]  the lawyers afraid of the judge if the judge doesn't do anything like in situations like this
[48:04.980 --> 48:10.500]  i mean i'm reading the what's amazing is that the the case law is pretty clear when you get to the
[48:10.500 --> 48:14.820]  appellate courts and you get to the supreme court the judges up there are no nonsense but they don't
[48:14.820 --> 48:20.820]  have any they don't have any direct you know engagement with the lower judges so i'm trying
[48:20.820 --> 48:26.340]  to understand how this this game works a little better and and that's my i guess that's my my
[48:26.340 --> 48:35.140]  inquiry tonight so i think they quoted a case law which is it's a great case it's um they were used
[48:35.140 --> 48:41.300]  that they missed they misdirected it thinking i guess i wouldn't read it but um you know it's not
[48:41.300 --> 48:48.100]  how it works we got to read this stuff anyway so they have a case of of um higher or prior
[48:48.100 --> 48:55.300]  prior versus target corp and this is in illinois and they misquoted um they misquoted a reference
[48:55.300 --> 49:00.340]  from that case trying to get to to argue that they have attorney-client privilege and that that
[49:00.340 --> 49:06.340]  extends directly to insured insured privilege but all throughout that case it's amazing they also
[49:06.340 --> 49:13.220]  talk about um this work at this work doctrine so there's those three categories and so it's very
[49:13.220 --> 49:21.300]  clear from what this this this court is saying that you don't get carte blanche to just use this to
[49:21.300 --> 49:32.340]  to hide everything they actually say that they say the wording is um what is it all encompassing
[49:32.340 --> 49:38.980]  shroud of secrecy that's the term the term and so they you know they they initiate this work product
[49:38.980 --> 49:43.780]  dark uh work product doctrine uh privilege the their attorney-client privilege and then and then
[49:43.780 --> 49:47.700]  the uh insured insured privilege there's probably other privileges but those are three that i'm
[49:47.700 --> 49:53.220]  working with and if you invoke those then you know obviously you can you can withhold documentation
[49:53.220 --> 49:58.340]  but you have to be very very specific and so this case is basically beating up target because target
[49:58.340 --> 50:05.860]  is using these these really you know disrespectful uh client privilege claims and then they appealed
[50:05.860 --> 50:09.940]  it and this is the appellate court saying yeah we we basically are backing up the lower courts
[50:09.940 --> 50:18.340]  because you don't get to do this and so i guess i my question is is if if is this just how it works
[50:18.340 --> 50:25.220]  is it just always messy and there's not enough reprimand for for lawyers to act up and up whereas
[50:25.220 --> 50:30.980]  as a pro se if we if we squeak the wrong way because we can't disrespect the courts with these
[50:30.980 --> 50:34.580]  games that'll really ignore them i guess that's what i'm saying it's like a double standard
[50:34.580 --> 50:39.780]  court they tolerate this even though it annoys them but they they would get really frustrated
[50:39.780 --> 50:45.140]  if a pro se played the same game is that sound accurate kind of what you were talking to before
[50:45.140 --> 50:54.900]  i'm not in that club i'm not sure i think it depends on the judge because i have seen judges
[50:54.900 --> 51:04.980]  is sit there and be incredibly patient uh this is a woman that just went to jail for five years over
[51:04.980 --> 51:12.820]  this patriot mythology stuff um i was in court with bonnie and it was a contempt hearing
[51:14.180 --> 51:20.580]  and the judge was doing everything she could to get bonnie to give her a reason not to hold her
[51:20.580 --> 51:28.020]  in contempt and i was amazed at how patient the judge was clearly she was frustrated
[51:28.980 --> 51:35.860]  and my bonnie kept doing this patriot stuff you know this is not me i'm not the all caps
[51:36.660 --> 51:42.580]  and on and on and on and the judge was struggling after about 10 minutes i couldn't tolerate it
[51:42.580 --> 51:52.020]  anymore i got up walked out of the the courtroom so i've seen judges be really patient and then
[51:52.020 --> 52:01.780]  i've seen judges be very impatient so i guess there's a spectrum i've seen both too and it's
[52:01.780 --> 52:08.500]  rare to see them come down hard on an attorney in front of a pro se but i did see that happen too
[52:08.500 --> 52:18.500]  once well that's so i've seen it once here too it wasn't super hard they deserve sanctions for
[52:18.500 --> 52:22.020]  everything they've done but you know she never hit she never said anything about sanctions she
[52:22.020 --> 52:28.740]  just slapped them and you should you should ask for sanctions and get the judge to deny them
[52:28.740 --> 52:38.900]  then because the idea of sanctions terrifies them and you're asking for sanctions they're
[52:38.900 --> 52:41.860]  going to be terrified until the judge denies your sanctions
[52:44.500 --> 52:54.260]  so in every opportunity ask for sanctions i asked in this recent answer to the opposition to compel
[52:54.260 --> 52:59.540]  i didn't ask for them but i said i asked the court i said i basically said the court should consider
[52:59.540 --> 53:06.180]  sanctions for the continued disregard and i also did not ask respectfully for the court to
[53:07.300 --> 53:13.220]  consider the motion i asked the court i moved the court to enforce the motion i'm getting tired of
[53:13.220 --> 53:19.460]  being so nicey-nicey you know and using that language when it's very clear that the opposing
[53:19.460 --> 53:25.140]  party even even as the seasoned attorneys are just messing with the court just seeing if the
[53:25.140 --> 53:30.020]  court's not looking it's like the dog you know i'm taking care taking care of my my landlord's dogs
[53:30.020 --> 53:34.100]  and if i'm not looking and that door is cracked they're out the side of the door running as fast
[53:34.100 --> 53:39.780]  as they can just to do it because it's fun you know and it's it's cute in the moment except when
[53:39.780 --> 53:44.820]  i got to get downtown you know so it's just it's that type of mentality just seeing if the court's
[53:44.820 --> 53:52.980]  going to miss it and if they can squeak by and i guess i'm i i expect adults who are who are
[53:52.980 --> 53:57.780]  attorneys to act a little more respectful to the court and to the parties instead of playing this
[53:57.780 --> 54:02.260]  juvenile stuff this is something that you know a teenager would do fresh out of high school
[54:02.260 --> 54:07.220]  oh i got these new tools i'm gonna see what i can get away with that should be in your motion
[54:07.220 --> 54:12.180]  okay yeah that sounds really well put
[54:13.700 --> 54:21.700]  yeah that should that language should be in your motion and it sounds good too that you're not
[54:22.260 --> 54:27.860]  picking on them for um the part that you're highlighting is that they're
[54:27.860 --> 54:29.940]  trying to pull the wool over the court's eyes
[54:29.940 --> 54:37.060]  yes yeah i mean they're they're they're quoting court they're quoting case law that
[54:37.060 --> 54:41.700]  i mean thank god it's not very long it's only 11 pages but they're quoting case law that
[54:41.700 --> 54:47.380]  forces the judge to go through and see if it's right instead of actually saying okay here's what
[54:47.380 --> 54:54.500]  we think it is they know down well it's not what it is so this is what i think i'm seeing that
[54:54.500 --> 55:01.300]  needs to get a request for sanctions the worst thing a lawyer can do is misquote case law
[55:02.820 --> 55:09.380]  the second worst thing they can do is miss something but misapplying case law is the worst
[55:10.020 --> 55:11.300]  foo-pah they can make
[55:13.780 --> 55:16.260]  so that should be you should ask for sanctions for that
[55:19.220 --> 55:22.100]  well i hinted at it i definitely hinted at it um
[55:22.100 --> 55:27.620]  um i should have asked for it i guess i guess it's my first time asking for it i'm going to
[55:27.620 --> 55:31.700]  start asking for it from here on out actually i'm going to ask for sanctions against the
[55:31.700 --> 55:36.420]  insurance company for also i guess the insurance company's obviously talking to defense in illinois
[55:37.220 --> 55:41.620]  because the language is similar so they're coming up with a similar strategy on their own
[55:42.420 --> 55:48.740]  and uh what's fascinating is they're denying me access to communications i didn't realize i was
[55:48.740 --> 55:52.500]  going to turn into this but they're denying me access to communications before i even filed a
[55:52.500 --> 56:00.180]  lawsuit and they won't let me see any of those emails between the insured and the insurer they
[56:00.180 --> 56:05.380]  won't let me see anything and that's not protected under any of their their privilege yet they're
[56:05.380 --> 56:10.260]  they're forcing that they're trying to stuff that down the course the court's mouth and and make
[56:10.260 --> 56:14.020]  them swallow it and think that that you know enough and they're putting a lot of pressure on
[56:14.020 --> 56:18.180]  that which is interesting they do not want me seeing what's in those communications which makes
[56:18.180 --> 56:26.740]  me want to see them even more there's probably something pretty damning in there and you know
[56:26.740 --> 56:31.860]  what that's exactly what i put in the motion the only reason they would be fighting this hard is
[56:31.860 --> 56:38.020]  because there's something damning i use that exact word and that's why i said i i uh i want i asked
[56:38.020 --> 56:42.020]  the court to seriously consider what's being hit in those emails and the force and to order them to
[56:42.020 --> 56:50.500]  be uh uh produced for review so yeah it's going to get interesting because i i thought we would
[56:50.500 --> 56:56.020]  just have some basic stuff behind them but they're one of the attorneys that the that the the federal
[56:56.020 --> 57:01.300]  hibler helped us we get you get access to a federal attorney for about 45 minutes one of them said
[57:01.300 --> 57:07.140]  they probably conspired and um i mean he says they obviously conspired but you have to have some type
[57:07.140 --> 57:14.980]  of evidence that shows that and i said i bet it's in those emails almost certainly in those emails
[57:16.180 --> 57:18.500]  and the judge will probably know that
[57:22.500 --> 57:30.340]  okay and he's not going to want to embarrass these lawyers because they all got their snouts in the
[57:30.340 --> 57:41.380]  same trough they played golf together on the weekends well this is a female magistrate she's
[57:41.380 --> 57:51.060]  a she's no nonsense but i think you're right i think she comes from the same you know paternity
[57:51.060 --> 57:59.060]  so to speak so if she's not going to embarrass them then what what might happen well it'll
[57:59.060 --> 58:05.060]  scare them in any case although she might if you if they annoy her enough
[58:09.460 --> 58:16.180]  but it's that's kind of something kind of hard to beat because they are one fraternity so
[58:16.820 --> 58:23.060]  finally judicial conduct complained against the judge for protecting these lawyers that's
[58:23.060 --> 58:35.380]  going to not make her happy good point yeah okay you can do that the these lawyers that there's
[58:35.380 --> 58:42.980]  tactics they can't use hang on randy kelton brett fountain wheel of law radio call in number five
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[01:03:24.740 --> 01:03:45.940]  okay we are back randy kelton rep fount rule of law radio on this friday the 16th day of june 2023
[01:03:45.940 --> 01:03:53.700]  and we're talking to chris in colorado we have a full board right now we have two first time callers
[01:03:54.580 --> 01:03:57.540]  so we will get to everybody okay chris
[01:03:59.860 --> 01:04:03.380]  where were we we were beating up the judge
[01:04:06.980 --> 01:04:11.940]  you're the pro se and they expect you to be a chomp
[01:04:11.940 --> 01:04:22.660]  uh but you have the capacity to be a jerk jerk is so much better nobody can mess with the judge
[01:04:23.620 --> 01:04:31.620]  except the pro se and that gives you powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal attorneys
[01:04:32.580 --> 01:04:37.460]  and you always have to assume that the judge is going to rule against you out of hand at every
[01:04:37.460 --> 01:04:48.020]  turn no matter what so don't worry about it get the judge to do the dumbest thing she can
[01:04:49.620 --> 01:04:57.620]  because she's you know she's on their side she's way and weighted against the you and toward them
[01:04:57.620 --> 01:05:07.460]  so a couple complaints against her like for instance for allowing this improper behavior
[01:05:07.460 --> 01:05:18.100]  by these lawyers she is not going to like that but she can't do anything to you about it you have
[01:05:18.100 --> 01:05:24.580]  to assume she's going to rule against you anyway what she can do is go to these lawyers and tell
[01:05:24.580 --> 01:05:27.780]  them you better do something to get this guy off my case
[01:05:30.980 --> 01:05:37.700]  that may not be right but that's pretty much how it works in the real world we both live in
[01:05:41.220 --> 01:05:44.900]  at the end of the day they're human beings and they're subject to the same
[01:05:46.180 --> 01:05:51.700]  frustrations and pressures as anybody else and when these lawyers start
[01:05:51.700 --> 01:05:54.980]  annoying the judges the judges have the power to annoy back
[01:05:58.820 --> 01:06:03.700]  but you said this judge has been pretty straightforward
[01:06:05.620 --> 01:06:12.740]  she's been polite um i mean i learned i learned a trick about the judges they they really don't
[01:06:12.740 --> 01:06:18.100]  care if you're a day or two late just as long as you acknowledge it and my the first judge
[01:06:18.100 --> 01:06:22.660]  you know i i would put motions in or whatever and one time i i missed you know i was a day late or
[01:06:22.660 --> 01:06:26.660]  something and he just said i'll make an administrative move i'll make administrative
[01:06:26.660 --> 01:06:30.260]  decision here granted you know he didn't he was just totally kind of letting me be pro se
[01:06:31.060 --> 01:06:36.100]  and so i tested this judge this time just to see how she was because this is the first time i've
[01:06:36.100 --> 01:06:43.620]  had to file too much you know it's much with her so i filed it a day late and then i put in a motion
[01:06:43.620 --> 01:06:48.820]  much with her so i filed it a day late and then i put in a motion a day late just to see what she
[01:06:48.820 --> 01:06:54.580]  would do well she granted it but she also put in a no which the other judges don't this will
[01:06:55.300 --> 01:07:00.340]  for all future community for all future uh extensions for any party if it's late i will
[01:07:00.340 --> 01:07:07.140]  not grant it so she was just making a remark just let you know i'm watching you so i tested her and
[01:07:07.140 --> 01:07:14.020]  she fired right back so she's been kind of uh she's been kind of respectful and stern at the same
[01:07:14.020 --> 01:07:22.500]  time so yes to answer your question but she's also very biased towards the case and i don't know if
[01:07:22.500 --> 01:07:27.380]  that's just because of a thing in illinois like you just are expected to get toady legally because
[01:07:27.380 --> 01:07:34.340]  you live there or she just wants a sexier case before her so i keep reminding the court this
[01:07:34.340 --> 01:07:39.940]  is about fraud before and after the toe and the toe was just the mechanism they use for fraud but
[01:07:39.940 --> 01:07:45.540]  you know and i keep reminding the court that and she doesn't like it when i do that so i don't know
[01:07:45.540 --> 01:07:50.740]  how to feel about her when we really get to the to the to the meat of this case and we're getting
[01:07:50.740 --> 01:07:57.460]  there you know well one one thing to keep in mind you're never talking to this court
[01:07:57.460 --> 01:08:08.500]  you are always talking to the appellate court your only purpose is to set the record for appeal if
[01:08:08.500 --> 01:08:17.220]  this annoys her let her be annoyed will it annoy the appellate court no appellate court the appellate
[01:08:17.220 --> 01:08:25.220]  court's a lot busier than she is and you know when i write legal documents just like uh what we do on
[01:08:25.220 --> 01:08:31.060]  the show is a good example of how to write legal documents when you're talking to me or when anyone
[01:08:31.060 --> 01:08:38.180]  else is talking on the show i'm sitting here listening to what you're saying and trying to
[01:08:38.180 --> 01:08:47.620]  figure out what questions my listeners will have most of this material i know but i try to listen
[01:08:47.620 --> 01:08:54.500]  to it from the perspective of an eighth grader who doesn't know anything about law and they don't
[01:08:54.500 --> 01:09:03.540]  know and doesn't know anything about the case so when you make a a statement that alludes to some
[01:09:04.180 --> 01:09:11.460]  property of law or something that went on that we talked about earlier in the case i'll stop and ask
[01:09:11.460 --> 01:09:20.020]  a question about it because we don't want our listener to get behind because of something you
[01:09:20.020 --> 01:09:25.860]  and i both know but our listeners don't necessarily know that so we try to keep them up to speed
[01:09:25.860 --> 01:09:35.620]  when you write legal documents same way judge is busy reads lots of documents do not expect
[01:09:35.620 --> 01:09:47.140]  the judge to remember anything remind them where you need reference to other information
[01:09:47.140 --> 01:09:53.700]  and make a reference to that other information you know do it as subtly and diplomatically as you can
[01:09:54.580 --> 01:10:00.900]  but at the end of the day it's not the trial judge that you're playing to it's the appellate judge
[01:10:00.900 --> 01:10:08.260]  who didn't hear all that went on in this case so when they read the appellate documents
[01:10:08.260 --> 01:10:16.420]  you need to think what questions are they going to have in their mind that i haven't answered
[01:10:18.100 --> 01:10:22.740]  in order you have to answer those either before you create the question or just after
[01:10:24.980 --> 01:10:31.300]  so reminding them is is not a problem at all i if i were you i would not be concerned about that
[01:10:31.300 --> 01:10:38.580]  at all i don't care if the judge doesn't like it because you're not writing for this judge anyway
[01:10:40.020 --> 01:10:46.900]  okay you kind of just answered my next question i would feel better preparing myself and my own
[01:10:46.900 --> 01:10:54.020]  mind for appeal because you know they they raise the bar one side i have to answer and and so if
[01:10:54.020 --> 01:10:57.940]  they're setting me up to like walk away because they're trying to intimidate me because they
[01:10:57.940 --> 01:11:02.980]  don't think i'll do appeals they probably never thought i would do a motion to compel and they
[01:11:02.980 --> 01:11:10.580]  certainly didn't think i was going to do a subpoena so why not just file off an appeal next time if
[01:11:10.580 --> 01:11:15.860]  they you know they rule something that's questionable and then after that if they
[01:11:15.860 --> 01:11:21.620]  continue to be that agree just start filing judicial conduct complaints criminal complaints
[01:11:21.620 --> 01:11:28.820]  all that yeah i think that's a great idea you're just laying the groundwork for the appellate court
[01:11:30.420 --> 01:11:38.020]  dr graves in jurisdictionary you know he reminds everybody your only purpose in the trial court
[01:11:38.020 --> 01:11:44.980]  is to set the record for appeal you go into the trial court and the judge rules against you
[01:11:44.980 --> 01:11:50.420]  and it makes you feel horrible and you feel like you're losing the case and you get stressed and
[01:11:50.420 --> 01:11:56.740]  depressed and all that other stuff heck with all that you don't care what that judge does
[01:11:58.260 --> 01:12:04.900]  you're just down here to get the facts of law on the record yep going methodically and patiently
[01:12:04.900 --> 01:12:13.620]  through all the mistakes they want to make raising exceptions objecting whatever you need to
[01:12:14.340 --> 01:12:17.860]  that throws the flag on the field so that the appellate court can review that
[01:12:17.860 --> 01:12:27.700]  up yeah and and once you're doing that when when they realize you are not impassioned by their
[01:12:27.700 --> 01:12:36.100]  rulings they'll have more respect for you you will you'll seem more like one of the lawyers you watch
[01:12:36.100 --> 01:12:42.740]  these lawyers objection objection well they raise the objection but they don't get excited they don't
[01:12:42.740 --> 01:12:47.860]  get angry they just state their objection the grounds for their objection and judge rules
[01:12:47.860 --> 01:12:54.020]  against them and sometimes their lawyer will say well we ask the court to to reflect the
[01:12:55.940 --> 01:13:04.900]  the party's uh exception to the ruling nobody's upset nobody's angry they're just touching the
[01:13:04.900 --> 01:13:12.020]  basis yeah except when you as a pro se start doing that you might get to see the attorneys
[01:13:12.020 --> 01:13:17.060]  on the other side physically shaking trembling or getting red in the face
[01:13:19.460 --> 01:13:24.580]  you start seeing them snapping their fingers and whispering and having other lawyers coming over
[01:13:24.580 --> 01:13:29.140]  there and they start clustering together and whispering to each other bringing more books over
[01:13:29.860 --> 01:13:38.100]  they it does something to them they're not accustomed i had we had a guy out of florida
[01:13:38.100 --> 01:13:46.660]  who was uh adjudicating a tax issue he kept calling into the show and he told us that
[01:13:47.540 --> 01:13:52.980]  after he called in one day and he said after the hearing he got on the elevator and this lawyer
[01:13:52.980 --> 01:13:59.220]  from the other side got on the elevator and he pushed the button to go down and after the
[01:13:59.220 --> 01:14:04.820]  doors closed and the lawyer reached over and hit the stop button he thought uh oh this is not going
[01:14:04.820 --> 01:14:14.260]  to look good and the lawyer asked him if he was an attorney and he said no and the lawyer said i've
[01:14:14.260 --> 01:14:20.100]  been doing this for about 15 years i've worked with the best i've worked with the with the worst
[01:14:20.820 --> 01:14:25.380]  but i have never had anyone take me to the books the way you have
[01:14:25.380 --> 01:14:33.300]  and he made it a point to express his appreciation for how this guy handled himself
[01:14:36.420 --> 01:14:40.100]  have you ever been in a fight in a high school parking lot
[01:14:41.860 --> 01:14:48.020]  or the high school playground you get out there and you get in a fight with one of the other kids
[01:14:48.020 --> 01:14:55.380]  fight with one of the other kids you beat each other up and it doesn't matter who wins you wind
[01:14:55.380 --> 01:15:02.580]  up with this as long as both sides gave as good as they got you wind up with mutual respect
[01:15:06.020 --> 01:15:12.980]  and i would much rather have that than have them like me and the judge will be the same way even
[01:15:12.980 --> 01:15:21.060]  if you annoy the judge you stand your ground you don't get excited you don't get angry
[01:15:21.060 --> 01:15:27.940]  you just keep methodically plugging away at them if whatever else you get you'll wind up with their
[01:15:27.940 --> 01:15:35.620]  respect i think one of the greatest compliments i got was the process the district attorney in
[01:15:35.620 --> 01:15:40.900]  the county i live in asked me what i was doing in wichita falls and i said how did you know i was
[01:15:40.900 --> 01:15:46.900]  in wichita falls oh i got a call from the district attorney up there and he wanted to know if i knew
[01:15:46.900 --> 01:15:54.500]  you and i told him yeah i did and he wanted to know if you were crazy i said well greg what'd
[01:15:54.500 --> 01:16:02.260]  you tell him yeah you're crazy but if he mentioned something about law pay attention he does his
[01:16:02.260 --> 01:16:16.100]  homework i'll take that any day and if you keep in mind your only purpose is to set the record
[01:16:17.860 --> 01:16:21.220]  that will give you a posture that will get their respect
[01:16:21.220 --> 01:16:34.180]  it may not like you but who really cares about that i don't and and this is this is for everybody
[01:16:34.180 --> 01:16:41.220]  else because when you're in something where you have a dog in the hunt it's really hard to be
[01:16:41.220 --> 01:16:50.820]  dispassionate it's really hard to not be overwhelmed yeah keep in mind betrayed you're just setting the
[01:16:50.820 --> 01:16:56.980]  record they the worse they do the better for you hang on randy kelton bread fountain we'll be right
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[01:19:14.980 --> 01:19:29.460]  ain't gonna blame me don't bore me
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[01:19:40.180 --> 01:19:47.140]  randy kelton brett fountainville baleno and chris colorado chris do you have anything else
[01:19:48.820 --> 01:19:53.700]  no i think you guys gave me pretty good game uh game plan here so thank you very much as
[01:19:53.700 --> 01:20:00.180]  always thank you very much okay thank you chris now we're going to go to what appears to be a
[01:20:00.180 --> 01:20:12.740]  first-time caller uh karen what was that at six seven eight atlanta area code if you are in georgia
[01:20:15.300 --> 01:20:18.900]  talk oh wait let me unmute you let's see did i hit the wrong one
[01:20:18.900 --> 01:20:25.540]  um okay talk to us karen i'm here
[01:20:29.620 --> 01:20:31.620]  you're breaking up there's try that again
[01:20:38.260 --> 01:20:47.780]  i'm hearing pieces of a voice are you hearing her well but uh randy no i'm just getting bits
[01:20:47.780 --> 01:20:58.420]  and pieces as well okay karen to another room all right yes that is better okay are you you're karen
[01:20:59.300 --> 01:21:07.220]  okay good yes i'm karen from snowville georgia from georgia all right
[01:21:09.460 --> 01:21:12.100]  okay what do you have for us today
[01:21:12.100 --> 01:21:20.020]  um i don't know if this is like um an unusual thing or not i'm not but i was arrested
[01:21:21.460 --> 01:21:30.020]  um for criminal trespass i have a school board meeting in november of 2021 because in october
[01:21:30.020 --> 01:21:36.980]  of 2021 i took my mask off at the school board meeting and violated their policy and therefore
[01:21:36.980 --> 01:21:44.900]  i was quote disruptive unquote and so they issued me a criminal trespass from the school
[01:21:45.780 --> 01:21:52.900]  and i ignored it and went anyway and they arrested me so my court case is now coming up
[01:21:53.460 --> 01:22:02.500]  wednesday and my lawyer has um filed and i can't pronounce it a demurrer
[01:22:02.500 --> 01:22:11.380]  i guess it was a motion to dismiss it and but now she came to me friday with a plea deal
[01:22:12.820 --> 01:22:20.020]  and wants me to take the plea deal and i don't want to take the plea deal even though
[01:22:20.820 --> 01:22:27.060]  both cases would be um marked as no prosc and one would just be dismissed totally because i got
[01:22:27.060 --> 01:22:36.420]  arrested again in february for the same thing and um anyway long story short she wants me to take
[01:22:36.420 --> 01:22:44.100]  this plea and part of this plea is is i have to do pre-trial diversion um class that would be eight
[01:22:44.100 --> 01:22:50.500]  hours long and i'd have to go and take it you know um the entire month and that makes me nervous
[01:22:50.500 --> 01:22:57.140]  because she keeps telling me it's going to be shown as a dismissed and not on my records but if that's
[01:22:57.140 --> 01:23:05.540]  the case why am i have to take this course does that does any of that make sense yeah they can
[01:23:05.540 --> 01:23:14.500]  place pretty much any condition they want to on a dismissal of this type
[01:23:14.500 --> 01:23:17.700]  on a dismissal of this type
[01:23:20.500 --> 01:23:28.420]  so this is a the contract negotiation for me to take that though we'd say that again
[01:23:31.380 --> 01:23:34.660]  i said is it wise for me to take a plea in this situation
[01:23:34.660 --> 01:23:43.940]  well it's hard for me to say what's wise for you i can give you my philosophy
[01:23:45.940 --> 01:23:55.140]  if they don't have a case they're going to huff and puff right up to the courthouse door
[01:23:55.140 --> 01:24:03.380]  so we had one guy that they were trying they tackled him because he had a recorder with him
[01:24:03.380 --> 01:24:11.620]  in the courthouse they screwed everything up and the guards overreacted and then they prosecuted
[01:24:11.620 --> 01:24:17.860]  him to cover up what they did and they kept offering him deals and he kept telling him to go
[01:24:17.860 --> 01:24:28.100]  scratch they got to the courthouse door and they offered to dismiss everything on just some minor
[01:24:28.100 --> 01:24:34.420]  concession on his part and he told him to go scratch they went in the courthouse and the
[01:24:34.420 --> 01:24:38.500]  lawyers were all over themselves trying to figure out how to get this thing dismissed
[01:24:39.460 --> 01:24:46.020]  they did not want this coming before the court and i suggest to you they are not going to want this
[01:24:46.020 --> 01:24:50.420]  they are not going to want this getting before the court of appeals
[01:24:52.660 --> 01:25:00.100]  this is something that needs this they threatened you in order to deny you access to a public
[01:25:00.100 --> 01:25:08.340]  building and there are a lot of people in this position who would love to have some case law
[01:25:08.340 --> 01:25:16.260]  come from the appellate courts about that is but before you do that is this the the fight you want
[01:25:16.260 --> 01:25:17.300]  to have
[01:25:21.060 --> 01:25:29.700]  see that's that's one of the things that i'm i'm struggling over because i felt like from the in
[01:25:29.700 --> 01:25:34.500]  people look at me funny when i say this but i felt like from the very get-go that god put me in that
[01:25:34.500 --> 01:25:42.500]  position to take care of this and that if i feel like if i take this plea am i going to be a
[01:25:42.500 --> 01:25:48.660]  disappointing him but be am i going to wander the rest of my life if i could have done something
[01:25:48.660 --> 01:25:58.980]  different that is hard enough then let me speak to that i am an old guy my house is paid for
[01:25:58.980 --> 01:26:09.380]  my kids are grown i have no debt i can do anything i want to nobody is depending on me
[01:26:11.620 --> 01:26:15.700]  i have no responsibilities i can pick any fight i want to pick
[01:26:17.220 --> 01:26:22.340]  and a lot of other folks out here just like me we have on the telegram channel
[01:26:22.340 --> 01:26:30.260]  uh the mask site law the mask law society channel with a whole bunch of people on there who
[01:26:30.260 --> 01:26:40.980]  are taking on these issues you don't have to have this fight unless you feel compelled to have this
[01:26:40.980 --> 01:26:52.660]  fight but if you do feel compelled to have this fight you really need to give them a fight you are
[01:26:53.620 --> 01:27:01.140]  a citizen in a republic who have powers and abilities far beyond those public officials
[01:27:02.580 --> 01:27:08.260]  there are all kind of things you can do to them but it's not right for you to do that
[01:27:08.260 --> 01:27:17.380]  do to them but it's not right for everybody and if you don't feel like you're in a position
[01:27:17.380 --> 01:27:24.020]  to take on this fight don't feel like you're letting anybody down there are lots of us out here
[01:27:24.020 --> 01:27:32.180]  to have this fight if you get in this fight you're really not prepared for it you won't do any of us
[01:27:32.180 --> 01:27:41.780]  in good the last thing we need is someone who's not prepared to have the fight taking it on because
[01:27:41.780 --> 01:27:51.140]  they feel some kind of personal responsibility to do it you're right you're right in that
[01:27:52.180 --> 01:27:57.700]  see i've been i just have to be praying over it but the other question i had when it comes
[01:27:57.700 --> 01:28:05.060]  wait a minute let me make one more comment on that if you take this deal and they dismiss this case
[01:28:06.020 --> 01:28:12.260]  and you take this little course sheet thing you can still come back and sue them personally
[01:28:12.980 --> 01:28:23.140]  and the civil courts that that's what my question was if i see this deal can i because the other
[01:28:23.140 --> 01:28:31.300]  part of this equation is the school board issued out a criminal trespass warning to the NAACP
[01:28:31.300 --> 01:28:37.620]  president of Gwinnett county and she showed up the next month and they let her stay there causing
[01:28:37.620 --> 01:28:44.580]  a ruckus but yet they arrested a parent so i don't want i want to be able to sue them for
[01:28:44.580 --> 01:28:49.060]  the discrimination and everything else that i can but i don't want this to be in the way
[01:28:49.060 --> 01:28:59.780]  okay if if they dismiss the case then it's not in your way if they reduce it to a lesser charge
[01:29:00.500 --> 01:29:04.820]  it might be somewhat in your way but you said they were willing to dismiss the case if you
[01:29:04.820 --> 01:29:14.020]  took this eight hour course right the supreme court has rules the best offer they've ever seen
[01:29:14.020 --> 01:29:19.940]  you that means they know they can't win at the end of the day
[01:29:21.540 --> 01:29:24.180]  now that's easy for me to say that's what i was here
[01:29:25.540 --> 01:29:29.140]  it's easy for me to say that but my liberty is not on the line
[01:29:31.940 --> 01:29:41.380]  yours is so always my first advice liberty first get your liberty cleared
[01:29:41.380 --> 01:29:49.220]  once your liberty is cleared then you can come back and have the best kind of fight to have
[01:29:50.340 --> 01:29:57.300]  and the best kind of fight to have is the one you picked hang on randy kelton brett
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[01:33:36.740 --> 01:33:39.620]  the wicked come with temptation
[01:33:42.180 --> 01:33:45.620]  they're trying to buy the whole place
[01:33:47.620 --> 01:33:50.420]  they wanna poison the nation
[01:33:53.140 --> 01:33:55.620]  because they've fallen from grace
[01:33:58.580 --> 01:34:01.620]  i will not drink from that cup
[01:34:01.620 --> 01:34:06.420]  i just can't act that way
[01:34:09.460 --> 01:34:12.580]  they got this problem they're dreaming of
[01:34:14.260 --> 01:34:17.220]  and i won't be the slave come what may
[01:34:24.740 --> 01:34:30.660]  okay we are back in the kelton red fountain blue of law radio and we're talking to karen
[01:34:30.660 --> 01:34:37.860]  in georgia and karen i think i know about your your case from the telegram channel
[01:34:39.140 --> 01:34:47.780]  and you know we're a bunch of patriots here and we get out here and we we fight the good fight
[01:34:48.500 --> 01:34:57.860]  and we take on the bad guys well you gotta take the bad guys on from where you're at and
[01:34:57.860 --> 01:35:05.860]  uh when they're challenging your liberty first get your liberty clear you can't fight them
[01:35:05.860 --> 01:35:15.220]  effectively if they're holding your liberty over your head if it was me right i'd take that deal
[01:35:15.220 --> 01:35:24.100]  in a heartbeat i'd do that eight hours then i'd come back and land on them like a ton of bricks
[01:35:24.100 --> 01:35:36.260]  and do it with absolute impunity i just did it to a judge in rome texas i changed my plea
[01:35:36.260 --> 01:35:43.780]  i fought him like a tiger and they set hearings and didn't notify me so they could charge me
[01:35:43.780 --> 01:35:55.380]  was failure to appear so he figures he's got me so i filed a change of plea and even the prosecutor
[01:35:55.380 --> 01:36:04.100]  said well mr kelton you can't do that of course i can do that i already did that well mr kelton
[01:36:04.100 --> 01:36:12.420]  if you'll just accept this plea i'll lower the fee from 800 to 600 no ma'am we can't talk about
[01:36:12.420 --> 01:36:20.980]  that i have a notice of of intent to appeal she said you can't appeal yet there's no adjudication
[01:36:21.940 --> 01:36:26.420]  said yeah there is i changed my plea and she's standing sitting there scratching her head and it
[01:36:26.420 --> 01:36:37.300]  finally sunk in the yeah it outmaneuvered them and then when the judge heard my pleading he got out
[01:36:37.300 --> 01:36:45.860]  the recorder told me this was a court of record and recorded the hearing and was very careful
[01:36:46.420 --> 01:36:55.780]  this time because he knew he had been out maneuvered now i get out of his court get into the
[01:36:56.580 --> 01:37:02.900]  county court now i can hammer him big time there's nothing you can do about it when i filed a notice
[01:37:02.900 --> 01:37:10.820]  of intent to appeal he lost jurisdiction so he knew because i'd already asked him to arrest his
[01:37:10.820 --> 01:37:16.980]  clerk and asked him to have a bailiff in the next hearing so i could ask the bailiff to arrest him
[01:37:17.620 --> 01:37:24.820]  so he knew i was coming after him but first i got to get out of his court so my suggestion to you is
[01:37:24.820 --> 01:37:31.940]  take this deal get your liberty cleared and if anybody wants to have a criticism well you just
[01:37:31.940 --> 01:37:37.940]  go on down there and put your mask on and let them threaten you with six months a year in jail see
[01:37:37.940 --> 01:37:46.900]  how that works for you so you are certainly welcome to do that but you are no good trying to fight for
[01:37:46.900 --> 01:37:59.140]  our rights if you're trying to keep yourself out of jail at the same time so take the deal okay i
[01:37:59.140 --> 01:38:07.700]  think that's the way i'm going to go so can i ask you one question if we decide to go to court and
[01:38:07.700 --> 01:38:12.740]  they don't dismiss the charges then um which i probably will take the deal but i just want the
[01:38:12.740 --> 01:38:18.900]  answer should with it next step be a juror request a jury trial
[01:38:21.060 --> 01:38:26.660]  i would say yes but in my case juries always find me incredibly guilty
[01:38:28.020 --> 01:38:38.100]  but juries are harder on the prosecution as well because juries are always a unknown
[01:38:38.100 --> 01:38:45.620]  so i would say absolutely request a jury well no i shouldn't say it that way it depends on
[01:38:46.820 --> 01:38:52.020]  your position i won't ask for a jury and the reason i won't ask for a jury
[01:38:52.980 --> 01:39:02.180]  is because i'm going to bring the judge to point of law if you have a jury then whatever the jury
[01:39:02.180 --> 01:39:08.980]  rules you're stuck with but if you don't have a jury then you can hold the judge responsible for
[01:39:08.980 --> 01:39:16.580]  the rulings that he makes and i want to deviate he can't read between the lines well it's all
[01:39:16.580 --> 01:39:24.100]  circumstantial evidence but we find that so the jury can you can't challenge that judge doesn't
[01:39:24.100 --> 01:39:33.220]  have that leeway so it depends on who you are what your abilities are and the fight you're willing
[01:39:33.220 --> 01:39:40.980]  to have if you take the deal and they dismiss the case then now you can come back and come after
[01:39:40.980 --> 01:39:48.020]  them with your impunity because the supreme court is going to take the case and they're going to
[01:39:48.020 --> 01:39:55.780]  now you can come back and come after them with your impunity because the supreme recently ruled
[01:39:56.660 --> 01:39:59.780]  that if the case is dismissed you can sue them
[01:40:03.140 --> 01:40:05.700]  as if the case should never have happened in the first place
[01:40:07.780 --> 01:40:14.180]  so when you come back and you're the plaintiff it's a whole different ball game
[01:40:14.180 --> 01:40:22.740]  now you're the one dragging them up on the carpet feels good too yeah this is fun
[01:40:26.340 --> 01:40:32.420]  okay i really appreciate that you have taken the time and given me advice i think that you've
[01:40:32.420 --> 01:40:38.660]  given me advice that i really needed somebody to tell me and i cannot tell you how much i appreciate
[01:40:38.660 --> 01:40:49.780]  it well this is my job we're trying to help people take on this system and brett and i both
[01:40:49.780 --> 01:40:59.220]  have experience at it and we're learning what works and what doesn't and being a martyr yeah never a
[01:40:59.220 --> 01:41:10.820]  good idea that's what i was thinking but you know you know i just i i needed somebody who
[01:41:12.100 --> 01:41:18.420]  is not involved to say you know it's okay you're okay yeah yes and i appreciate that
[01:41:20.260 --> 01:41:26.180]  and someone who's who's not in the fight and not dedicated to the fight i am dedicated to the fight
[01:41:26.180 --> 01:41:34.100]  but we're realists and we know what works and what doesn't and what works is the ability to be there
[01:41:34.740 --> 01:41:45.860]  in the long term and i have had them come after me and adjudicating my own case when my liberty
[01:41:45.860 --> 01:41:55.220]  was at risk was incredibly difficult for me i went before a jury with all of my knowledge and i
[01:41:55.220 --> 01:42:07.380]  managed to convince the jury to throw the book at me so don't do that now when i go back before the
[01:42:07.380 --> 01:42:16.100]  court when i do that sued when i sued a a magistrate after i played him like a cheap fiddle
[01:42:17.620 --> 01:42:22.900]  you should have seen him when he walked into the courtroom after i had sued him
[01:42:22.900 --> 01:42:31.860]  he had himself a whole other attitude and in that case i asked the bailiff to arrest the trial judge
[01:42:31.860 --> 01:42:41.380]  twice mr bailiff did you hear that he just stood there you're standing mute did you hear that
[01:42:41.380 --> 01:42:51.460]  arrest that judge that was so much fun but i could do that because i was the plaintiff
[01:42:51.460 --> 01:43:00.900]  i was the plaintiff i picked this fight so we if if you want to go after these guys we want you
[01:43:00.900 --> 01:43:13.300]  to be good at it and this will make you much better at it right thank you again you are welcome
[01:43:13.300 --> 01:43:22.180]  well then y'all have a great evening you too okay thanks for calling okay we have another first time
[01:43:22.180 --> 01:43:32.980]  caller uh looks like vivian where's 904 brett i don't know you're in the 904 area code give us
[01:43:32.980 --> 01:43:38.180]  first name and estate hold on hold on we'll we're about to run out of time so we'll pick this up on
[01:43:38.180 --> 01:43:45.140]  the other side uh this is randy calton brett fountain wheel of law radio we got a couple
[01:43:45.140 --> 01:43:53.300]  spots on the caller board i call in number 512-646-1984 we'll be right back
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[01:47:16.580 --> 01:47:22.580]  Alright, we are back. This is the Rule of Law Radio, Randy Kelton. I'm Brett Fountain.
[01:47:22.580 --> 01:47:28.820]  And we're going to go to our first time caller here in the 904 area code.
[01:47:28.820 --> 01:47:32.180]  If you're in 904, give us a first name and a state.
[01:47:34.580 --> 01:47:37.300]  Hi, my name is Vivian. I'm from Florida.
[01:47:38.660 --> 01:47:42.260]  Vivian in Florida. Great. Thanks for calling. What's on your mind?
[01:47:42.260 --> 01:47:53.860]  Oh my gosh. Well, I have been working on this case for my granddaughter who, and I'm going to try to
[01:47:53.860 --> 01:48:01.380]  make this as short as possible, but granddaughter and it has been going on since August of 2021.
[01:48:03.060 --> 01:48:06.020]  And there are so many different facets of it.
[01:48:06.020 --> 01:48:16.740]  She moved a camper onto the land with permission and parked it in a assigned spot that they gave
[01:48:16.740 --> 01:48:27.700]  her to park in until they had an actual lot with amenities available. So this was all an oral agreement.
[01:48:27.700 --> 01:48:34.740]  And it was done with what she thought was the owner of the property.
[01:48:35.540 --> 01:48:42.340]  So I'm just going to go through this very quickly. So we're looking at a breach of an oral contract.
[01:48:42.980 --> 01:48:46.580]  And then because they allowed her to live in it,
[01:48:46.580 --> 01:48:56.100]  but it was supposedly a spot for storage is what it was on a throughway. Other people were parked
[01:48:56.100 --> 01:49:07.220]  there also. So I am trying to go to the course of, and I initially submitted it as a small claim.
[01:49:07.220 --> 01:49:15.780]  And I made it self-help. What they did is they seized all her property. They seized the camper,
[01:49:15.780 --> 01:49:25.780]  the car, and all her property. Then they, when they seized it, they made extortion demand.
[01:49:26.740 --> 01:49:34.980]  After that, I sent them a letter and they said, well, you know, we're going to get you out of this
[01:49:34.980 --> 01:49:42.820]  after that. I sent them a letter of demand or a notice of demand that we wanted $6,000.
[01:49:45.060 --> 01:49:51.460]  But then they didn't answer anything. So I filed them a small claim at that point. And that went
[01:49:51.460 --> 01:50:02.260]  up to $8,000, which did not nearly cover all of what she had. That did not go through. It was a
[01:50:02.260 --> 01:50:13.460]  no show. The courts did not let us know about it. And I had not addressed all of the defendants or
[01:50:13.460 --> 01:50:20.740]  one of the defendants properly. So I did a lot of research, went to Circuit Civil. I did that
[01:50:21.540 --> 01:50:28.420]  almost a year later. So I guess it was like 11 months later, because I found out that there is
[01:50:28.420 --> 01:50:39.460]  a trustee who handles the real trust, a real property. So the trustee handles
[01:50:41.940 --> 01:50:52.980]  the trust, which entails five parcels of real property. They all wanted, all the attorneys
[01:50:52.980 --> 01:51:01.540]  wanted to get dismissed. There were, I think, four attorneys, because I sued the first beneficiary,
[01:51:02.500 --> 01:51:09.220]  or the trustee, the first beneficiary and the property manager. All the attorneys wanted to
[01:51:09.220 --> 01:51:18.020]  withdraw, but so far I still have all of them except one. Well, at this point, in the year 2023.
[01:51:18.020 --> 01:51:29.300]  The judge questioned me as to, well, the trustee should not really be part of this. And I explained
[01:51:29.300 --> 01:51:38.020]  to him, and I said, Judge, isn't the trustee supposed to oversee the land? And just because
[01:51:38.020 --> 01:51:44.020]  the activities on the land are happening, he should know what those activities are, illegal
[01:51:44.020 --> 01:51:51.220]  or not illegal, and they are illegal. This is not a mobile home park or anything like that. And it's
[01:51:51.220 --> 01:52:01.540]  a zoned commercial office. Okay. So then I'm going to bring you forward. We got through all
[01:52:01.540 --> 01:52:06.260]  the withdrawal process and we're still in court. But one attorney-
[01:52:06.260 --> 01:52:10.020]  Just a moment. One quick question for you before you go to the next part.
[01:52:10.020 --> 01:52:18.900]  You mentioned that they took the RV and all the belongings. Who did the seizing?
[01:52:20.740 --> 01:52:33.540]  Okay. The primary beneficiary slash manager of the property, he calls himself the manager landlord.
[01:52:33.540 --> 01:52:41.620]  He and his property manager seized the property. What they did and how they did that is they gave
[01:52:41.620 --> 01:52:48.500]  the police false information and said she was a squatter when she had been there six months waiting
[01:52:48.500 --> 01:52:58.020]  for a lot. And these lots that they're talking about, they're going to have amenities. This is
[01:52:58.020 --> 01:53:04.260]  something that the property that they're on is owned by or maybe managed by these same people
[01:53:04.260 --> 01:53:08.340]  that are saying that they're going to develop a lot and she's going to have a place.
[01:53:09.860 --> 01:53:19.460]  They have some lots that are illegal. It's a mobile home camper rental. And then they have
[01:53:19.460 --> 01:53:27.060]  mobile lots and campers that are rental. And then they have what they call storage, which they
[01:53:27.060 --> 01:53:39.380]  park on the wherever in there. It's just real property, kind of wooded. And it's not zoned.
[01:53:39.380 --> 01:53:48.340]  I mean, it's zoned for commercial office, but they're using it. The owner collects the money
[01:53:48.340 --> 01:53:52.820]  and pockets it, is what he does because everybody has to pay in cash.
[01:53:52.820 --> 01:53:56.740]  Okay. Got it. So then what's this next part you were going to tell us about?
[01:53:56.740 --> 01:54:09.300]  Okay. So I showed the police while they were there that this was her camper. And they said,
[01:54:09.300 --> 01:54:14.100]  well, it wasn't civil now, because that was the third time they came on that day. They said,
[01:54:14.100 --> 01:54:19.860]  well, this is civil court now. Okay. So that's when we went through all of this and the
[01:54:19.860 --> 01:54:34.420]  went to circuit civil. Let's see. Now, one of the attorneys just kept wanting to withdraw and
[01:54:35.780 --> 01:54:42.340]  expansion of time is what he's had put on there. And then finally he ended up withdrawing totally.
[01:54:42.340 --> 01:54:52.100]  He got fired by the client. So, but in the interim, what he did is he complained about me being a POA.
[01:54:53.060 --> 01:54:58.820]  So that's a biggie that we need to take care of this evening. And the judge concurred.
[01:55:00.260 --> 01:55:06.580]  Nobody has said anything up until he came on the scene. And he reported me to the police.
[01:55:06.580 --> 01:55:13.460]  Nobody has said anything up until he came on the scene and he reported me to the Florida bar also,
[01:55:13.460 --> 01:55:21.300]  which that's another story. I'm taking care of that. So now we're at the point where
[01:55:23.380 --> 01:55:35.140]  in my complaint, I had put in a section that dealt with the civil theft. I'm calling it civil theft
[01:55:35.140 --> 01:55:44.660]  or the theft that they did. And the judge a couple of months ago told me to take that out
[01:55:44.660 --> 01:55:53.140]  and readdress it. And I guess I understood as an issue, write up another case, which I did,
[01:55:53.140 --> 01:55:59.220]  but then I was told that was wrong and he's going to bring it into this court. But what I did is I
[01:55:59.220 --> 01:56:09.780]  did what he said. I rewrote a civil demand letter. Okay. Now that it's been 30 days now,
[01:56:09.780 --> 01:56:19.540]  but I wrote the civil demand letter for treble the charges of the first one. And right now we're
[01:56:19.540 --> 01:56:29.700]  getting ready to, well, I'm, I want to address the POA and I want to address the civil theft demand
[01:56:29.700 --> 01:56:38.740]  letter. In addition, since there are, since there is the trust and the primary beneficiary
[01:56:39.540 --> 01:56:45.940]  and the property manager who now has, let's say become my friend, if you want to call it that.
[01:56:45.940 --> 01:56:54.740]  I want to go into court and say, you know, Hey, there's the $78,000 that is owed. Nobody
[01:56:54.740 --> 01:57:02.500]  responded in two years. Nobody's not tried to negotiate, responded, called me. I want you to
[01:57:02.500 --> 01:57:11.060]  make a ruling on this. And I don't know if that's the right thing to do. But who is going to end up
[01:57:11.060 --> 01:57:18.180]  paying for this? I want the judge to decide, is it going to be the trustee from the trust? Or is
[01:57:18.180 --> 01:57:28.580]  it, or am I supposed to be addressing the primary beneficiary help? There's a lot more to this,
[01:57:28.580 --> 01:57:32.660]  but at least if I get those couple of things taken care of, that would be wonderful.
[01:57:32.660 --> 01:57:42.820]  Wow. A lot to unpack there. So nobody wanted to take any of this. There's so many different facets
[01:57:42.820 --> 01:57:50.900]  of it. I've gone to all kinds of attorneys. I've asked for pro bono. I've gone to legal aid. I went
[01:57:50.900 --> 01:57:58.340]  to the mayor, right? Oh yeah. A grand theft report. I went to the mayor. I went to the
[01:57:58.340 --> 01:58:06.100]  mayor. Right. Oh yeah. A grand theft report. I did everything I could and finally got a
[01:58:06.660 --> 01:58:14.820]  grand theft report written up. Of course, they can't say who did it because nobody saw them do it.
[01:58:16.180 --> 01:58:24.740]  Okay. Because it was on their property. Did your daughter get the RV and everything back at this
[01:58:24.740 --> 01:58:33.700]  point? Or is it still sitting in some impound lot or what? Oh wow. That's why I filed a civil theft
[01:58:33.700 --> 01:58:43.540]  because what they did is they called it abandoned on the- Oh no. Oh my goodness. Well, okay. So
[01:58:43.540 --> 01:58:48.340]  there's some more we're going to have to unpack on the other side of the sponsors. Hold on Vivian,
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