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[00:46.200 --> 00:52.680]  Today in history, the year 1916, the Preparedness Day Bombing, a time suitcase bomb was detonated
[00:52.680 --> 00:58.040]  on Market Street in San Francisco during the World War I Preparedness Day Parade, killing
[00:58.040 --> 01:05.040]  the 10 and injuring 40.
[01:05.040 --> 01:10.080]  And recent news, since the Governor Greg Abbott signed House Bill 1325 legalizing Hepin attacks
[01:10.080 --> 01:14.680]  his law back in June, county prosecutors around the state including Houston, Austin and San
[01:14.680 --> 01:19.120]  Antonio have been dropping marijuana possession charges and even refusing to file new ones
[01:19.120 --> 01:23.160]  since they are stipulating that they do not have the time or the laboratory equipment to
[01:23.160 --> 01:28.080]  test the oath for THC. Margaret Moore, the Travis County District Attorney announced earlier
[01:28.080 --> 01:32.800]  this month that she was dismissing 32 felony possession and delivery of marijuana cases
[01:32.800 --> 01:34.000]  because of the law.
[01:34.000 --> 01:37.880]  Mr. Abbott and other state officials, including the Attorney General stipulated in a letter
[01:37.880 --> 01:42.400]  to county district attorneys back on Thursday that marijuana has not been decriminalized
[01:42.400 --> 01:48.520]  in Texas and that these actions demonstrate a misunderstanding of how HV1325 works as
[01:48.520 --> 01:54.800]  well as other cities too like the District Attorney in El Paso, Cayma Esparza, a Democrat
[01:54.800 --> 01:59.280]  who also stated earlier this month that the law, quote, will not have an effect on the
[01:59.280 --> 02:02.040]  prosecution of marijuana cases in El Paso.
[02:02.040 --> 02:07.080]  However, the issue was succinctly summarized by Mr. Brandon Ball, an assistant public defender
[02:07.080 --> 02:11.080]  in Harris County who stated that, quote, the law is constantly changing on what makes
[02:11.080 --> 02:13.760]  something illegal based on its chemical makeup.
[02:13.760 --> 02:17.720]  It's important that if someone is charged with something, the test matches what they're
[02:17.720 --> 02:19.200]  charged with.
[02:19.200 --> 02:27.500]  A paper by Tulane University identified a five and a half inch American pocket shark
[02:27.500 --> 02:32.640]  as the first of its kind in the Gulf of Mexico, the specimen being only the second pocket
[02:32.640 --> 02:38.280]  shark ever captured or recorded with the other one being found way back in 1979 in the East
[02:38.280 --> 02:39.440]  Pacific Ocean.
[02:39.440 --> 02:44.080]  According to the university paper, the shark secretes a luminous fluid from a gland near
[02:44.080 --> 02:50.360]  its front fins for the purposes hypothesized to lure and prey who may be drawn into the
[02:50.360 --> 03:17.520]  glow.
[03:17.520 --> 03:20.520]  We're talking to Chris in California.
[03:20.520 --> 03:28.480]  Okay, Chris, I went through your document and as I perceive, you have a father who's
[03:28.480 --> 03:34.200]  a dentist, someone, one of his employees embezzled from him.
[03:34.200 --> 03:41.000]  He didn't fire the employee and somehow the employee continued to embezzle, it caused
[03:41.000 --> 03:48.360]  him financial problems, he apparently got rid of her and got someone else who did the
[03:48.360 --> 03:55.280]  same thing and then he had to move in with another dentist and they had problems.
[03:55.280 --> 04:07.240]  Chris, what did your father do to ensure that people didn't embezzle from him?
[04:07.240 --> 04:17.640]  Well, nothing, obviously, that wasn't his area, his devotion as to his patients and
[04:17.640 --> 04:23.560]  other things that he likes to do and things that he doesn't like to do, he tends to avoid.
[04:23.560 --> 04:30.000]  He's had a big family that's taken care of him to his detriment, you could even say,
[04:30.000 --> 04:41.440]  and that's been part what led to the situation, he's completely irresponsible of any other
[04:41.440 --> 04:50.400]  requirement for him to watch his finances or keep track of relationships other than
[04:50.400 --> 04:51.400]  his own patients.
[04:51.400 --> 04:53.880]  So, yeah, it's an unusual...
[04:53.880 --> 05:07.120]  Unfortunately, it's not as unusual as you would hope, I've heard this a lot.
[05:07.120 --> 05:14.760]  It's hard when you've got someone working for you and they do this and they claim that
[05:14.760 --> 05:22.160]  it's to support your children or how do you toss someone out on the street is hard, I
[05:22.160 --> 05:23.160]  understand.
[05:23.160 --> 05:28.520]  He had a duty to take steps to ensure this, that doesn't happen.
[05:28.520 --> 05:34.520]  If people can steal from you, they will steal from you.
[05:34.520 --> 05:39.200]  If you make it easy for them to steal from you, you turn them into thieves.
[05:39.200 --> 05:44.720]  There you go, the whole person of being a lawyer, right?
[05:44.720 --> 05:50.000]  Yeah, and once they get in, they can't get out.
[05:50.000 --> 05:56.360]  But that doesn't help with this, first thing I need is the timeline.
[05:56.360 --> 06:06.480]  There are things that go on here that from the outside, you don't know to look for.
[06:06.480 --> 06:10.800]  The lawyer knows to look for them, but he doesn't know how to ask about them, he doesn't
[06:10.800 --> 06:17.360]  know what happened, he has to listen to you and you talk about what seems to be most important
[06:17.360 --> 06:19.240]  to you.
[06:19.240 --> 06:25.640]  But because you're not steeped in law, you're not always knowledgeable about things that
[06:25.640 --> 06:26.640]  are important.
[06:26.640 --> 06:31.560]  You know, when you sit in front of a lawyer, you know, the lawyer will have a legal pad
[06:31.560 --> 06:35.800]  there and he'll sit there and listen intently and everyone wants to hear write something
[06:35.800 --> 06:39.080]  on that legal pad.
[06:39.080 --> 06:45.120]  Every once in a while, you'll step on something that goes to a legal issue or element and
[06:45.120 --> 06:47.840]  he'll make a note of that.
[06:47.840 --> 06:51.680]  There are certain things that he needs, but he doesn't know how to ask for them because
[06:51.680 --> 06:54.120]  he doesn't know what happened.
[06:54.120 --> 06:57.640]  You know what happened, but you don't know what he needs.
[06:57.640 --> 07:02.400]  So you have to do this back and forth and he's sitting there fishing for details.
[07:02.400 --> 07:08.560]  Well, I do this radio show and that's really an inefficient way of doing things and that
[07:08.560 --> 07:11.000]  wasn't working for us.
[07:11.000 --> 07:16.520]  So we'll come up with a different strategy that turns out to work really good.
[07:16.520 --> 07:25.720]  This thing timeline, what happened when that's all do not let yourself drift into argument
[07:25.720 --> 07:31.600]  or explanation just this happened, this happened, this happened, this happened because when
[07:31.600 --> 07:38.360]  you start talking about things, you talk about what seems important to you and you will go
[07:38.360 --> 07:43.760]  to one emotional high point to the next to the next and someone will ask you a question
[07:43.760 --> 07:49.880]  and oh, that goes to this emotional high point down here and you jump over two or three and
[07:49.880 --> 07:54.160]  you go to one down here and then you jump back to another one.
[07:54.160 --> 08:01.960]  You don't always talk about these in order and there's some study on memory that I came
[08:01.960 --> 08:10.240]  across a few years ago that it turns out that we don't go inside and read memory.
[08:10.240 --> 08:13.240]  That's not the way it works.
[08:13.240 --> 08:22.040]  We go inside and take memory out, re-experience the memory and put it back.
[08:22.040 --> 08:25.800]  It went to this problem with memory.
[08:25.800 --> 08:35.360]  Memory is just not trustworthy and they did some experiments with rats on this and it
[08:35.360 --> 08:41.200]  highlighted what was going on here and that explains why we have such problem with memory
[08:41.200 --> 08:47.480]  because we pull that memory out, re-experience and put it back but we don't put back what
[08:47.480 --> 08:52.200]  we pulled out, we put back what we re-experienced.
[08:52.200 --> 08:58.440]  So just about everybody is told a complex story and wound up getting part of it out
[08:58.440 --> 09:06.400]  of order or most of us have told these really cool stories and somebody said hey, did that
[09:06.400 --> 09:13.800]  happen to you and you have to go inside and think, I don't know, I don't remember because
[09:13.800 --> 09:18.880]  the telling of the story didn't necessarily have anything to do with who it happened to,
[09:18.880 --> 09:20.080]  it was just a great story.
[09:20.080 --> 09:27.400]  So when you told it, you didn't attach to it the source of the story so it gets lost
[09:27.400 --> 09:28.400]  in memory.
[09:28.400 --> 09:32.480]  It's not really lost, it's just kind of hidden.
[09:32.480 --> 09:38.520]  So the way you get that back is the timeline, just do a timeline, don't explain anything,
[09:38.520 --> 09:43.480]  you explain anything, you start getting into the emotion of what occurred and that doesn't
[09:43.480 --> 09:52.520]  mean that you're emotional about it but you have impulses and feelings and ideas about
[09:52.520 --> 09:57.880]  it that distort how things actually went together.
[09:57.880 --> 10:02.680]  So first thing, just give a timeline, timeline front to back.
[10:02.680 --> 10:08.120]  Right, and I agree with that, that's what, I've heard you talk about that before and
[10:08.120 --> 10:12.680]  I'm a little taken aback and I'm still wondering if you got the right, if you got through the
[10:12.680 --> 10:18.760]  whole email because I don't put any of my own personal arguments in here and it actually
[10:18.760 --> 10:25.320]  went through all of the documentation and pulled out consecutive, you know, occurrences
[10:25.320 --> 10:32.080]  and was very technical about it, leaving out very purposely anything that was my own take
[10:32.080 --> 10:33.080]  on it.
[10:33.080 --> 10:36.320]  I just put the record in there, if Alec came down at one time.
[10:36.320 --> 10:43.760]  Okay, I'm glad you said that that way because that's not what I'm looking at.
[10:43.760 --> 10:55.280]  You told what you believed to be important and you kind of left out the minor detail
[10:55.280 --> 11:02.680]  that just didn't matter from your perspective.
[11:02.680 --> 11:09.920]  A lawyer looking at it, he's looking for something different than you're looking for.
[11:09.920 --> 11:14.160]  I couldn't go through all of it, it was very extensive, it would have taken me half a day
[11:14.160 --> 11:16.240]  to go through all of that.
[11:16.240 --> 11:18.120]  That's what I thought.
[11:18.120 --> 11:24.280]  I needed, the first thing I needed was an overview.
[11:24.280 --> 11:27.400]  You just drop me right in the middle of everything.
[11:27.400 --> 11:35.600]  I'm reading stuff here that's specific and technical but I don't have context to fit
[11:35.600 --> 11:37.240]  that in.
[11:37.240 --> 11:43.480]  I have to go through this technical information and get to the end of it before I find context
[11:43.480 --> 11:47.880]  but now I've already been through all that information and I had no place to put it so
[11:47.880 --> 11:50.320]  I tend not to keep it.
[11:50.320 --> 11:52.000]  That's why you always have an introduction.
[11:52.000 --> 11:54.800]  Tell them what you're going to tell them.
[11:54.800 --> 12:02.400]  You tell them what you're going to tell them so that they have a framework for when they
[12:02.400 --> 12:07.880]  start going through the details, they've got this framework where they can stitch this
[12:07.880 --> 12:12.720]  into place and they have a way to hold this information.
[12:12.720 --> 12:21.600]  Everything we remember, we remember based on content, contextual relevance.
[12:21.600 --> 12:25.120]  We need some context to stick these things to.
[12:25.120 --> 12:28.440]  I didn't have that reading this document.
[12:28.440 --> 12:35.800]  If you do a timeline, there's a process that I use here.
[12:35.800 --> 12:41.200]  First thing I do is a timeline and you go back to that timeline and you start filling
[12:41.200 --> 12:47.440]  in as many of the blanks that you can because when you go back through it, the timeline
[12:47.440 --> 12:50.120]  becomes a mnemonic device.
[12:50.120 --> 12:51.120]  This happened.
[12:51.120 --> 12:53.040]  You say, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
[12:53.040 --> 12:55.280]  Something happened in here and you go put that in.
[12:55.280 --> 12:59.440]  That may be important and it may not.
[12:59.440 --> 13:08.320]  You as someone who's inside the circumstance are not the right person to make that determination.
[13:08.320 --> 13:12.400]  Those who have been listening for a long time may remember when I got prosecuted in Cherokee
[13:12.400 --> 13:13.400]  County.
[13:13.400 --> 13:14.400]  I defended myself.
[13:14.400 --> 13:23.400]  I think I'm a pretty smart guy and I got all this knowledge that I can take these chumps.
[13:23.400 --> 13:26.360]  Well they threw the book at me.
[13:26.360 --> 13:36.080]  Problem was I had a dog in the hunt and I was absolutely incompetent to represent myself.
[13:36.080 --> 13:38.200]  It was an education for me.
[13:38.200 --> 13:41.480]  This is your dad.
[13:41.480 --> 13:44.000]  You're too steeped in the details.
[13:44.000 --> 13:53.440]  You're going to give me all of the stuff that plays to your dad's side or that you believe
[13:53.440 --> 13:55.520]  plays to your dad's side.
[13:55.520 --> 13:56.520]  It's natural.
[13:56.520 --> 13:58.400]  It's what we do.
[13:58.400 --> 14:04.040]  I want to see what goes to the other side and a lot of times that gives me tools that
[14:04.040 --> 14:11.280]  I can use for your side but I have to know the whole thing before we can effectively
[14:11.280 --> 14:12.800]  sort this out.
[14:12.800 --> 14:16.560]  There's a methodology for doing that.
[14:16.560 --> 14:17.560]  Timeline's the first thing.
[14:17.560 --> 14:23.920]  Then you fill in the timeline as much as you can and then you make up a story.
[14:23.920 --> 14:32.120]  You make up a story that explains all of this and then you take that story and you go down
[14:32.120 --> 14:38.720]  your timeline and start filling in facts that support your story.
[14:38.720 --> 14:42.880]  Now you don't have to tell every fact.
[14:42.880 --> 14:47.480]  If there are facts that support the other guy's story, let him tell folks.
[14:47.480 --> 14:49.040]  Let him bring them up.
[14:49.040 --> 14:58.760]  But produce a story that's consistent and compelling and put in those facts that go to
[14:58.760 --> 15:01.240]  each step in the process.
[15:01.240 --> 15:05.280]  That's your definition of a timeline.
[15:05.280 --> 15:07.480]  No, no.
[15:07.480 --> 15:14.080]  The timeline is what you start with and then you make up the storyline and then you use
[15:14.080 --> 15:17.680]  the storyline to create a statement of facts.
[15:17.680 --> 15:21.200]  And this is for yourself?
[15:21.200 --> 15:22.200]  Yes.
[15:22.200 --> 15:33.160]  And so this keeps you will never get in a position I was in once when I told a story
[15:33.160 --> 15:39.240]  and it was absolutely out of place.
[15:39.240 --> 15:44.000]  And because I had told this so many times, I didn't realize it was out of place.
[15:44.000 --> 15:48.720]  It was very disturbing.
[15:48.720 --> 15:55.000]  Once you have a timeline, you don't get things out of order out of place.
[15:55.000 --> 16:00.440]  And when you build that timeline, details will start presenting themselves that you
[16:00.440 --> 16:04.320]  have missed, you will be surprised.
[16:04.320 --> 16:07.640]  So the timeline is just the first step.
[16:07.640 --> 16:17.680]  The storyline, you gave me the storyline, but in reading the storyline, I had a multitude
[16:17.680 --> 16:24.480]  of questions at each point that I couldn't answer because I didn't have context.
[16:24.480 --> 16:31.240]  When you build a timeline first and then build your storyline to follow the timeline, then
[16:31.240 --> 16:35.560]  everything will logically follow one from the other.
[16:35.560 --> 16:40.520]  Then you take the timeline and the storyline and you build a statement of facts in between
[16:40.520 --> 16:41.520]  them.
[16:41.520 --> 16:44.560]  You don't have to use the storyline.
[16:44.560 --> 16:53.120]  The idea of the storyline is you put in facts in a way that would lead a reasonable person
[16:53.120 --> 16:58.200]  to have ordinary prudence to come to a set of conclusions.
[16:58.200 --> 16:59.200]  And those conclusions...
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[19:17.760 --> 19:22.000]  Randy Kelton of Rule of Law Radio, I kind of fell off the cliff there.
[19:22.000 --> 19:31.560]  You have a problem, Chris, because you know the material too well.
[19:31.560 --> 19:37.280]  You're the only one who can tell this story effectively because you know all the material.
[19:37.280 --> 19:42.920]  The problem that you know it too well makes it harder for you to tell the story effectively.
[19:42.920 --> 19:48.320]  You will tell me a story that makes perfect sense to you.
[19:48.320 --> 19:53.000]  I'm sitting here wondering what the heck is he talking about.
[19:53.000 --> 20:03.440]  You already have all these internal links and you tell me things that sounds perfectly
[20:03.440 --> 20:07.840]  reasonable to you, but without realizing I don't have all these links.
[20:07.840 --> 20:12.440]  If you're like me, you spend a lot of time working with stuff and you go in and you
[20:12.440 --> 20:16.960]  look at people's explanations.
[20:16.960 --> 20:21.600]  I do tutorials and stuff to try to work out new technology.
[20:21.600 --> 20:26.720]  You got these guys who really know their subject well and they know it so well.
[20:26.720 --> 20:38.080]  They leave out these tiny, tiny, little details that without it, I am absolutely stymied.
[20:38.080 --> 20:47.160]  What was, there's a Joomla, Joomla is a content management system for building webpages.
[20:47.160 --> 20:49.160]  It's real famous.
[20:49.160 --> 20:52.640]  I went through the whole book on Joomla.
[20:52.640 --> 20:58.360]  Never did figure out how to load a file into Joomla.
[20:58.360 --> 21:06.200]  Front to back, I read it twice and finally tossed it and it was four or five years later.
[21:06.200 --> 21:17.840]  I came across something that, just a notation that said in Joomla, files are called articles.
[21:17.840 --> 21:18.840]  So what?
[21:18.840 --> 21:19.840]  Articles?
[21:19.840 --> 21:28.640]  It didn't tell me that in the book anywhere.
[21:28.640 --> 21:30.840]  They just talked about articles.
[21:30.840 --> 21:33.400]  See my problem?
[21:33.400 --> 21:38.120]  Okay, timeline fixes that.
[21:38.120 --> 21:41.360]  You don't want to tell the story.
[21:41.360 --> 21:45.320]  If I tell you something, it can be a lie.
[21:45.320 --> 21:48.560]  If you think it, it's true.
[21:48.560 --> 21:54.760]  So that's interesting, I'm having a little trouble with my caller board.
[21:54.760 --> 21:55.760]  Got it.
[21:55.760 --> 21:56.760]  Okay.
[21:56.760 --> 21:58.080]  If I think it, it's true.
[21:58.080 --> 22:03.720]  So let's build the timeline first so all our pieces fit in the right place.
[22:03.720 --> 22:09.720]  Then let's make up the story and now let's go back to the timeline.
[22:09.720 --> 22:13.280]  Christmas is an art form.
[22:13.280 --> 22:17.880]  You manipulate the mind of your reader.
[22:17.880 --> 22:24.120]  You got this story you want your reader to create.
[22:24.120 --> 22:32.320]  So you arcfully craft your facts so that a reasonable person of ordinary prudence, when
[22:32.320 --> 22:39.560]  they consider this fact and the next fact within the context you've presented them,
[22:39.560 --> 22:44.240]  the logical conclusion is just over here, exactly what's in your story.
[22:44.240 --> 22:45.240]  Hey Randy.
[22:45.240 --> 22:46.240]  Yes.
[22:46.240 --> 22:53.880]  I heard you probably three years ago tell about this and that seems like you've been
[22:53.880 --> 23:01.000]  repeating quite often tonight and I'm fully appreciative of that concept and actually practice
[23:01.000 --> 23:07.120]  that concept very effectively when the task is required.
[23:07.120 --> 23:10.680]  In this case, I just wrote dates down and said what happened.
[23:10.680 --> 23:13.280]  I was not trying to make any particular story.
[23:13.280 --> 23:15.600]  As a matter of fact, I was trying to avoid that.
[23:15.600 --> 23:16.600]  Okay.
[23:16.600 --> 23:17.600]  Hold on.
[23:17.600 --> 23:18.600]  Hold on.
[23:18.600 --> 23:22.200]  I need to disclaimer here.
[23:22.200 --> 23:27.680]  There was far too much information for me to be able to go through that whole thing in
[23:27.680 --> 23:34.240]  detail and Chris, I wasn't speaking to you.
[23:34.240 --> 23:36.400]  I do this a lot.
[23:36.400 --> 23:43.320]  You gave me an opportunity to go through this procedure in detail.
[23:43.320 --> 23:49.760]  This is actually in the little one on one there's a section in their own how to craft
[23:49.760 --> 23:55.400]  legal documents and I was, my job here is to teach.
[23:55.400 --> 23:59.920]  So I really wasn't implying that you didn't do a good job.
[23:59.920 --> 24:12.680]  I didn't have enough time to read that closely enough to be able to tell.
[24:12.680 --> 24:25.000]  If I had a introduction or a table of contents, then I could have followed a lot better.
[24:25.000 --> 24:30.880]  So I really wasn't trying to criticize your work there.
[24:30.880 --> 24:31.880]  I don't know.
[24:31.880 --> 24:36.360]  I didn't have time to do that to look at it that closely and try to stitch all those
[24:36.360 --> 24:37.360]  pieces together.
[24:37.360 --> 24:39.800]  Let me make a suggestion.
[24:39.800 --> 24:47.560]  Go back to that document and put a heading on every single paragraph and use the heading
[24:47.560 --> 24:50.080]  feature in Word.
[24:50.080 --> 24:53.240]  Don't write your own heading.
[24:53.240 --> 25:00.600]  Go to the style section in Word and click one of the headings there and then put in
[25:00.600 --> 25:02.800]  the content.
[25:02.800 --> 25:07.720]  And that will create a table of contents.
[25:07.720 --> 25:14.560]  And if you're creating a legal document, you can get it to create your table of contents
[25:14.560 --> 25:15.560]  in the legal document.
[25:15.560 --> 25:24.080]  But more important than that, when you're building a large document like this, we have
[25:24.080 --> 25:32.040]  a tendency to argue things out of context.
[25:32.040 --> 25:35.600]  Sometimes argue the same thing a couple of times.
[25:35.600 --> 25:44.520]  If you put a heading on every single paragraph, it frames what you can say in this paragraph.
[25:44.520 --> 25:52.080]  And every single time I've done a large document, I go over and look at my table of contents
[25:52.080 --> 26:00.280]  and I find almost exactly the same heading in two or three different places.
[26:00.280 --> 26:07.320]  Oops, and if you read documents from lawyers, they do this all the time.
[26:07.320 --> 26:11.640]  They argue the same thing in different places.
[26:11.640 --> 26:18.520]  And sometimes that can really get you a problem because you're arguing from one perspective
[26:18.520 --> 26:23.960]  in one place, a different perspective in another place, and sometimes I look at my arguments
[26:23.960 --> 26:28.920]  and I say, waiting, these don't fit together very well.
[26:28.920 --> 26:33.520]  A reader will catch that every single time.
[26:33.520 --> 26:40.960]  Then when I'm done, a lot of the headings I have, I take out because I don't need them.
[26:40.960 --> 26:46.080]  But I do tend to leave in a lot of headings.
[26:46.080 --> 26:52.080]  A lot of headings is like my timeline or like my introduction.
[26:52.080 --> 26:59.000]  That tells me this is what I'm going to be talking about or reading about here.
[26:59.000 --> 27:05.240]  I've got these three or four subsets, but all these paragraphs are subsets of this paragraph.
[27:05.240 --> 27:12.440]  Now I know how to organize them in my mind so I can have good referential index.
[27:12.440 --> 27:16.520]  Does that make sense?
[27:16.520 --> 27:33.000]  So, what I can do, I sent you the timeline, is to now create a summation, a quick story
[27:33.000 --> 27:38.280]  with the headlines for each paragraph and just...
[27:38.280 --> 27:40.120]  No, no, hold on, hold on, hold on.
[27:40.120 --> 27:42.400]  You have a lot created here.
[27:42.400 --> 27:45.440]  You've obviously put a lot of time in this.
[27:45.440 --> 27:54.160]  So instead of creating a timeline from scratch, take your story and go in there and put a
[27:54.160 --> 27:57.200]  heading on every paragraph.
[27:57.200 --> 28:00.760]  This will streamline the process for you tremendously.
[28:00.760 --> 28:06.720]  And once you've done that, then you can go down those headings.
[28:06.720 --> 28:11.280]  You can hold the document back a little bit and instead of reading the contents, you go
[28:11.280 --> 28:21.520]  down those headings and they will act as your backbone and then you create a story that
[28:21.520 --> 28:23.120]  stitches all these together.
[28:23.120 --> 28:27.680]  You can kind of short soak at the process because you already have most of the work done.
[28:27.680 --> 28:31.400]  Yeah, I just literally, this is just a timeline.
[28:31.400 --> 28:32.400]  It's nothing more.
[28:32.400 --> 28:38.440]  It's all it is with dates on it, on every paragraph and that's all it was.
[28:38.440 --> 28:41.760]  And so now if you want a story, that's great and I agree with that.
[28:41.760 --> 28:46.960]  And so I'll just figure that, okay, I'll leave this timeline alone and I'll create a second
[28:46.960 --> 28:47.960]  story.
[28:47.960 --> 28:54.200]  I will tell you, I had about 10 or 15 different things going on.
[28:54.200 --> 28:56.280]  All my websites are crashed.
[28:56.280 --> 29:00.000]  I'm migrating everything to another server.
[29:00.000 --> 29:06.480]  I'm trying to build a mailing program and I'm going through these mailing tools and
[29:06.480 --> 29:07.480]  all of them.
[29:07.480 --> 29:11.720]  I've got about five or six of them and each one has a different problem.
[29:11.720 --> 29:12.720]  I can't use it.
[29:12.720 --> 29:19.920]  And then I open this huge email, but he got me.
[29:19.920 --> 29:23.160]  I did go through that email.
[29:23.160 --> 29:25.440]  So you drug my attention.
[29:25.440 --> 29:30.520]  I wasn't able to go through it in the detail I wanted to because I was so distracted, but
[29:30.520 --> 29:31.520]  you got me.
[29:31.520 --> 29:34.560]  You pulled me through that.
[29:34.560 --> 29:41.160]  So most of it's there.
[29:41.160 --> 29:42.160]  Try going through it.
[29:42.160 --> 29:49.400]  If I had had a lot of headings in there, I could have walked right through that thing
[29:49.400 --> 29:54.120]  and then I'd have to do exactly where I was and I'm always oriented, hang on, I'm about
[29:54.120 --> 29:55.120]  to go to break.
[29:55.120 --> 29:56.120]  We'll be right back.
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[33:02.080 --> 33:24.240]  Live, free speech radio, LogosRadioNetwork.com Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Rue LeBlanc
[33:24.240 --> 33:30.480]  Radio on this, the Friday, the 8th day of November, 2019.
[33:30.480 --> 33:36.880]  And Chris, during the entire break, I went through my emails trying to find that email.
[33:36.880 --> 33:41.040]  I get about 100 a day.
[33:41.040 --> 33:46.520]  So for one to stick means a lot, but I could not find it.
[33:46.520 --> 33:49.320]  I wanted to look at it, and you said it was numbered.
[33:49.320 --> 33:51.400]  I don't remember it being numbered.
[33:51.400 --> 33:56.000]  Generally, I'll notice that because that's what I asked for.
[33:56.000 --> 34:02.360]  So I'm not sure if you sent me the one you think you did, or I was just too busy to notice,
[34:02.360 --> 34:07.800]  but that's unusual that I wouldn't notice that.
[34:07.800 --> 34:08.800]  I couldn't find it.
[34:08.800 --> 34:09.800]  What was the name on it?
[34:09.800 --> 34:10.800]  Oh, hold on.
[34:10.800 --> 34:12.800]  Let me unmute you.
[34:12.800 --> 34:13.800]  Okay.
[34:13.800 --> 34:16.800]  What was the title or the subject on the email?
[34:16.800 --> 34:30.120]  The subject line is R-O-L, in the State Plans, and R-O-L, in the State Plans.
[34:30.120 --> 34:38.440]  Yeah, that makes the most sense that you may not have had the right one because it was
[34:38.440 --> 34:45.720]  simply dated and numbered and well organized, already having heard in great detail because
[34:45.720 --> 34:52.720]  I appreciate that storyline approach and know how effective it is, and have used that in
[34:52.720 --> 34:59.840]  my consultant and in my amusement, and it's very effective also, actually.
[34:59.840 --> 35:13.960]  Oh, okay, here it is, and it does have dates on it, but in 2008, the first, by 2010 after
[35:13.960 --> 35:22.600]  that, that wasn't enough for me to, did you kind of jump so far from one to the other?
[35:22.600 --> 35:30.440]  I didn't even notice that it was dated, and here is one that has an actual date on it.
[35:30.440 --> 35:36.960]  That's why it was two, if I'd had a date on each one, I would really notice that.
[35:36.960 --> 35:40.440]  This has a date every once in a while.
[35:40.440 --> 35:43.640]  Yeah, all of them are dated.
[35:43.640 --> 35:51.560]  When you do a timeline, the dates need to stand out separate from the content, so I
[35:51.560 --> 35:52.840]  can go down the dates.
[35:52.840 --> 35:56.400]  I can't go down the dates here without actually reading the content.
[35:56.400 --> 36:02.040]  Well, the number, yeah, that corresponds because it's numbered.
[36:02.040 --> 36:10.880]  Yeah, I could eventually put all that together, but if I'm a judge, if I'm a, oh wait, this
[36:10.880 --> 36:18.840]  is not the email I read, this one's not very long.
[36:18.840 --> 36:20.680]  Did you send me another one that was...
[36:20.680 --> 36:21.680]  No.
[36:21.680 --> 36:22.680]  Okay, then.
[36:22.680 --> 36:31.520]  And I remember about not bolding, too, because it offends some of the people, judges to bold
[36:31.520 --> 36:34.000]  and all that, so I didn't bold anything.
[36:34.000 --> 36:40.480]  Yeah, what this really needed was a heading on each paragraph to tell me what I'm about
[36:40.480 --> 36:41.480]  to read.
[36:41.480 --> 36:49.920]  Then I could look down those headings, and it will tell me this is where I'm going to
[36:49.920 --> 36:56.640]  go, and then at each step, I would have some kind of reference to know where I'm going,
[36:56.640 --> 36:58.440]  it would have been me.
[36:58.440 --> 36:59.440]  Try that.
[36:59.440 --> 37:00.440]  Just take this email.
[37:00.440 --> 37:07.120]  Timeline, or heading, or... You want a timeline, or you want the story with a heading, or
[37:07.120 --> 37:08.120]  you want both?
[37:08.120 --> 37:19.400]  Well, you essentially have the timeline here, but as with most timelines, there are huge
[37:19.400 --> 37:28.960]  gaps between one and the other, 2008 to 2010, 2010 to 2011, then to 2014, and I've got years
[37:28.960 --> 37:40.400]  in between here, and then it goes up to 2017, these huge jumps, there's going to be a lot
[37:40.400 --> 37:43.360]  of stuff going on in between here.
[37:43.360 --> 37:45.720]  I thought it was too long already.
[37:45.720 --> 37:48.440]  That would have made it 10 times longer.
[37:48.440 --> 37:49.440]  That's okay.
[37:49.440 --> 37:50.920]  Timeline's okay if it's long.
[37:50.920 --> 37:53.600]  We want everything in there.
[37:53.600 --> 38:01.440]  Then we can go back and look at it, and we see everything in context, but for me to get
[38:01.440 --> 38:10.680]  me to first look at it, I needed a brief, but I needed context.
[38:10.680 --> 38:20.360]  I'm looking at this rather large... I'm looking at a 32-inch screen, and this email is spread
[38:20.360 --> 38:28.080]  out across half that screen, so it's wider than a normal document, and it would still
[38:28.080 --> 38:35.680]  take up two documents, so this would be two documents full single spaced.
[38:35.680 --> 38:36.680]  That's hard to read.
[38:36.680 --> 38:39.800]  That's a lot to read.
[38:39.800 --> 38:46.600]  The courts ask for double space, but I always do just space and a half.
[38:46.600 --> 38:47.760]  Space and a half is enough.
[38:47.760 --> 38:52.960]  The courts want double space so they can make notes in the spaces in between.
[38:52.960 --> 38:59.960]  I do space and a half so that when I look at the page, I don't have all of this content
[38:59.960 --> 39:00.960]  crunched together.
[39:00.960 --> 39:04.960]  It's really hard to keep your place in here.
[39:04.960 --> 39:09.440]  I can go to the end of a line, and when I jump back to the beginning of the next line,
[39:09.440 --> 39:14.760]  I may hit the right one, I may not, but if I got space and a half, then I can come back
[39:14.760 --> 39:18.320]  to... I can follow that empty space to the front of the line.
[39:18.320 --> 39:22.640]  I don't get lost quite so easy.
[39:22.640 --> 39:28.480]  The depth of content is not such a problem if you have a paragraph, a heading on every
[39:28.480 --> 39:29.480]  paragraph.
[39:29.480 --> 39:36.800]  If I read the paragraph, when I'm reorienting myself, and now I know exactly where I'm going
[39:36.800 --> 39:43.360]  to go, it's a meta process.
[39:43.360 --> 39:47.040]  This heading's engaged in another part of the brain.
[39:47.040 --> 39:52.120]  I've got one part that's reading all this, and I've got another part that's keeping track
[39:52.120 --> 39:56.320]  of the content, the context that goes in.
[39:56.320 --> 40:03.920]  If you'll take this and put a heading on each one, it's in a factory, instead it's a line
[40:03.920 --> 40:06.200]  and a half spacing.
[40:06.200 --> 40:11.080]  The timeline needs a heading.
[40:11.080 --> 40:12.600]  Not a timeline.
[40:12.600 --> 40:15.880]  The timeline, the date, is the heading.
[40:15.880 --> 40:25.440]  When I do a timeline, I always put the date and then just date, and then a tab, and then
[40:25.440 --> 40:29.080]  I put the content in, or I'll put the content on the next line.
[40:29.080 --> 40:34.360]  I've got a lot of information, and that gets too many lines, but I'll give space between
[40:34.360 --> 40:40.880]  the date so that the reader can go down it and see all the dates, because I'll be in
[40:40.880 --> 40:45.400]  a paragraph way at the bottom, and I'll say, wait a minute, he addressed this somewhere
[40:45.400 --> 40:51.600]  else, and I can go back up, and while I may not remember all of the information, I'll
[40:51.600 --> 40:57.640]  kind of remember where it was at so I can easily find those dates.
[40:57.640 --> 41:03.400]  So headings and space and a half, that's no problem.
[41:03.400 --> 41:05.920]  I can reform it.
[41:05.920 --> 41:10.760]  I think if you'll do that and then look at it, I think you'll see what I'm talking about
[41:10.760 --> 41:16.560]  it will get much, much easier to read, and I suspect when you look at it, you're going
[41:16.560 --> 41:22.320]  to say, oops, I should have put this in here, and I should have put that in there.
[41:22.320 --> 41:27.720]  You'll begin to see where the pieces, they may fit together for you, but you already
[41:27.720 --> 41:29.960]  know all of them.
[41:29.960 --> 41:35.440]  So when you break them apart this way, you'll tend to notice where you didn't make the transitions,
[41:35.440 --> 41:41.600]  where you skipped over some information that the reader will have needed in order to make
[41:41.600 --> 41:45.200]  these two pieces fit together that you didn't need.
[41:45.200 --> 41:47.400]  Does that make sense?
[41:47.400 --> 41:53.440]  Well, yeah, if it's a timeline, it's confusing, but if it's a story, then it makes sense.
[41:53.440 --> 42:00.160]  So I'm kind of torn between, confused between, you're going back and forth between the storyline
[42:00.160 --> 42:03.520]  and the headings, and then, no, no, do a timeline first.
[42:03.520 --> 42:09.280]  Okay, you have already put all of this together.
[42:09.280 --> 42:15.520]  You should have a timeline anyway, but don't turn this into a timeline.
[42:15.520 --> 42:23.760]  You should put together a timeline, and every time something happens, stick it on that timeline.
[42:23.760 --> 42:29.240]  Stuff that you don't think is important at the moment, you'll forget.
[42:29.240 --> 42:32.840]  You'll lose, and then later on, it won't come back to you.
[42:32.840 --> 42:37.520]  You've got it in the timeline, then you go back to the timeline.
[42:37.520 --> 42:43.240]  When I'm doing that, I trip over stuff all of the time that I would have missed.
[42:43.240 --> 42:48.680]  When I have an encounter, like when I go to a court or something, or they throw me out
[42:48.680 --> 42:55.400]  of the courthouse or something, last time that happened was in Fort Worth.
[42:55.400 --> 42:58.120]  They drug me out, picked me up and threw me down.
[42:58.120 --> 43:04.360]  So the first part of my anatomy that hit the concrete was my face.
[43:04.360 --> 43:13.960]  And I'm sitting on a bench right by the door, bleeding on my white shirt and tie, writing
[43:13.960 --> 43:14.960]  a statement.
[43:14.960 --> 43:19.640]  And this lieutenant come by and asked if he could help me.
[43:19.640 --> 43:22.520]  I said, no, I think you guys have helped me enough.
[43:22.520 --> 43:25.920]  But I wrote that statement right then.
[43:25.920 --> 43:30.960]  And I'm pulling that statement out today, and it's got minor details I would never
[43:30.960 --> 43:34.920]  have remembered.
[43:34.920 --> 43:40.840]  And timelines help you pull out those details that will turn out later to be critically
[43:40.840 --> 43:41.840]  important.
[43:41.840 --> 43:42.840]  Hang on.
[43:42.840 --> 43:44.320]  I'm about to go to another break.
[43:44.320 --> 43:53.800]  Randy Kelton, Rue de la Radio, call in number 512-646-1984, Francis, John, I see you there.
[43:53.800 --> 43:56.680]  Francis, I'm looking forward to talking to you.
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[46:14.560 --> 46:26.240]  Okay, we are back.
[46:26.240 --> 46:33.640]  Randy Kelton, rule of law radio on this Friday, the 8th day of November 2018, and we're talking
[46:33.640 --> 46:36.520]  to Chris in California.
[46:36.520 --> 46:49.520]  When I was reading through this thing, way too general, just you're cramming a tremendous
[46:49.520 --> 46:57.480]  amount of information into one sentence, 2008, the first of two successive office managers
[46:57.480 --> 47:08.520]  embezzled my 87-year-old father as a dealing, man, I need a lot more than that, and we need
[47:08.520 --> 47:15.360]  to know when we discovered it, how much was embezzled, over what time period, when it
[47:15.360 --> 47:21.920]  started, and you need something to fill in all these details.
[47:21.920 --> 47:25.960]  That's what your timeline is for.
[47:25.960 --> 47:33.040]  And then we set this, what you have here next to your timeline, and go down this and look
[47:33.040 --> 47:40.120]  at that timeline and say, okay, in order for the reader to understand the context of this,
[47:40.120 --> 47:42.560]  what other facts need to be there?
[47:42.560 --> 47:48.440]  You know, after replacing the first office manager, he catches the second miss O doing
[47:48.440 --> 47:50.440]  the same thing.
[47:50.440 --> 47:51.440]  What?
[47:51.440 --> 47:52.440]  Wait a minute.
[47:52.440 --> 47:56.040]  I have all kinds of questions.
[47:56.040 --> 48:01.800]  How did he replace the other, under what circumstances?
[48:01.800 --> 48:08.000]  How did he change his office procedures, or did he not change any office procedures?
[48:08.000 --> 48:13.920]  There's just hundreds of, go ahead.
[48:13.920 --> 48:19.680]  He simply just went to a hiring agency and then they sent him somebody else.
[48:19.680 --> 48:23.600]  I need you to be in there.
[48:23.600 --> 48:28.400]  This is, the timeline needs to be very detailed.
[48:28.400 --> 48:33.800]  Well, I understand that, but the one fact that you'll get to if you were ever to get
[48:33.800 --> 48:37.720]  through this thing is that the case is over and done with.
[48:37.720 --> 48:40.000]  I didn't get that far.
[48:40.000 --> 48:42.000]  It's all past tense.
[48:42.000 --> 48:43.480]  It's over.
[48:43.480 --> 48:44.480]  Okay.
[48:44.480 --> 48:50.680]  So, what is your purpose now?
[48:50.680 --> 48:54.600]  Is to figure out what to do with the attorney who's coming after him for a whole bunch of
[48:54.600 --> 48:57.800]  money for throwing him under the bus.
[48:57.800 --> 48:58.800]  Okay.
[48:58.800 --> 49:06.640]  Then, if I had this whole thing in a timeline, I could zip down the timeline and say, right
[49:06.640 --> 49:11.520]  here is where I need to start after the attorneys, and then I need all that.
[49:11.520 --> 49:15.400]  Yeah, I need to especially need fine detail on attorneys.
[49:15.400 --> 49:18.800]  Yeah, it's in that form.
[49:18.800 --> 49:19.800]  That's all this is.
[49:19.800 --> 49:20.800]  There's nothing about me.
[49:20.800 --> 49:22.560]  It's all numbered and it's all dated.
[49:22.560 --> 49:23.560]  I don't know what else to do.
[49:23.560 --> 49:24.560]  I'm at a loss.
[49:24.560 --> 49:31.320]  Well, I have to read this whole entire document to figure that out.
[49:31.320 --> 49:37.400]  Well, I need something to tell me what I'm doing here.
[49:37.400 --> 49:43.640]  I'm reading all this and I don't know that this is already done.
[49:43.640 --> 49:50.800]  I don't know what context to put this in, so I'm looking at this stitching together every
[49:50.800 --> 49:57.200]  little fact, and then you tell me, oh, they don't matter because it's already done.
[49:57.200 --> 49:59.640]  Why don't you tell me all that stuff?
[49:59.640 --> 50:00.640]  Well, I did.
[50:00.640 --> 50:03.440]  It's in the document, the timeline, I should say.
[50:03.440 --> 50:04.440]  No.
[50:04.440 --> 50:05.440]  No.
[50:05.440 --> 50:06.440]  It's all there.
[50:06.440 --> 50:10.560]  I don't have, you know, this is, I don't know how long it take you to read, but I understand
[50:10.560 --> 50:14.920]  that there's some reading involved, but that's what you asked me for and I didn't know what
[50:14.920 --> 50:15.920]  else to do.
[50:15.920 --> 50:16.920]  Okay.
[50:16.920 --> 50:18.920]  That's what I'm trying to explain.
[50:18.920 --> 50:25.200]  First thing I need is to tell me what you're going to tell me.
[50:25.200 --> 50:32.160]  If I had known that what I'm looking for is how to go after the lawyers, then I better
[50:32.160 --> 50:34.440]  understand the context.
[50:34.440 --> 50:38.800]  I would go through what you have here, but I wouldn't spend so much time on it because
[50:38.800 --> 50:41.320]  I know this is a build up to the lawyers.
[50:41.320 --> 50:44.840]  When I got to the lawyers, I pay more attention to it.
[50:44.840 --> 50:49.320]  Now I know how to organize this in my mind.
[50:49.320 --> 50:54.040]  You started with a bunch of facts that I think they're all important, or you wouldn't put
[50:54.040 --> 50:57.840]  them in there.
[50:57.840 --> 51:00.080]  But what's important here are the lawyers.
[51:00.080 --> 51:07.760]  Well, that's what I said in the opening introduction, is it about how to back off the attorney.
[51:07.760 --> 51:08.760]  So everything's there.
[51:08.760 --> 51:12.920]  I understand there's a million other things going on and much more important than this.
[51:12.920 --> 51:18.080]  So I just did what you asked me to do and I couldn't do it anymore.
[51:18.080 --> 51:19.080]  Okay.
[51:19.080 --> 51:20.080]  Okay.
[51:20.080 --> 51:28.360]  Finally, the timeline of our unfolding ordeal is ready for review.
[51:28.360 --> 51:33.640]  Over recent weeks, I've been stalling the collection efforts of the attorneys in order
[51:33.640 --> 51:37.040]  to first hear your thoughts prior.
[51:37.040 --> 51:43.560]  I've read that probably four or five times to try to figure out what in the heck is she
[51:43.560 --> 51:45.920]  talking about?
[51:45.920 --> 51:55.360]  You use the term V. The attorneys in order to hear your thoughts.
[51:55.360 --> 51:56.360]  V.
[51:56.360 --> 52:07.680]  If you ever look that up, it means one previously mentioned, and I'm thinking, what attorneys?
[52:07.680 --> 52:09.880]  I should know something about some attorneys.
[52:09.880 --> 52:13.680]  I could not figure out what you were talking about, and then after about the third time
[52:13.680 --> 52:18.320]  I read it, I couldn't figure that out, so I went down to this, to the content I figured
[52:18.320 --> 52:30.240]  would probably tell me.
[52:30.240 --> 52:32.160]  I don't know this.
[52:32.160 --> 52:33.840]  I should know this.
[52:33.840 --> 52:42.800]  I shouldn't have to read every single detail on every single line from start to finish to
[52:42.800 --> 52:45.520]  know that basic detail.
[52:45.520 --> 52:46.520]  Okay.
[52:46.520 --> 52:55.680]  I've got an attorney here who's trying to collect money from my dad because he represented
[52:55.680 --> 52:59.040]  us in this case and threw us under the bus.
[52:59.040 --> 53:00.520]  How do I stall it?
[53:00.520 --> 53:01.520]  Okay.
[53:01.520 --> 53:03.520]  Now I know how to read this.
[53:03.520 --> 53:10.240]  Oh, I had said that about being thrown under the bus by this guy already.
[53:10.240 --> 53:12.240]  Let's see.
[53:12.240 --> 53:15.480]  Do you want?
[53:15.480 --> 53:20.640]  I explained it in the previous message that's below the whole timeline.
[53:20.640 --> 53:23.720]  That you can't ever do.
[53:23.720 --> 53:26.480]  You can't do it to me, and you can't do it to a judge.
[53:26.480 --> 53:33.760]  The original email to you prior to me sending the time kit.
[53:33.760 --> 53:38.280]  Like I said, I got a hundred emails a day.
[53:38.280 --> 53:46.720]  I've had four different horrendous foreclosure issues pitched to me today.
[53:46.720 --> 53:49.120]  I believe it.
[53:49.120 --> 53:52.880]  Being able to sort these details out is almost impossible.
[53:52.880 --> 53:59.200]  I don't even try anymore because I never get them right.
[53:59.200 --> 54:00.200]  I'm sympathetic.
[54:00.200 --> 54:08.040]  What you're asking me for is in the original email sent to you, I don't know, a few days
[54:08.040 --> 54:12.560]  before you saw that there were actually a couple of weeks before you saw the timeline.
[54:12.560 --> 54:17.840]  Everything you're asking me for is actually all there, and I understand that you're over
[54:17.840 --> 54:21.200]  burdened, and so I'm not going to...
[54:21.200 --> 54:22.200]  No, no.
[54:22.200 --> 54:30.640]  It's not intended as a criticism, but as a way of doing things.
[54:30.640 --> 54:37.720]  You should always assume that somebody's busy, and they've got a lot of things grabbing their
[54:37.720 --> 54:42.440]  attention, so you've got to get their attention, and you've got to assume they don't remember
[54:42.440 --> 54:48.760]  anything from what happened before, so you always want to start with a quick overview.
[54:48.760 --> 54:52.320]  You'll notice when I talk to people... That's what I did.
[54:52.320 --> 54:58.880]  Like Tina earlier today, I stopped her so we could back up a little to give you enough
[54:58.880 --> 55:05.000]  that you kind of understood what she was talking about before we went ahead, because otherwise
[55:05.000 --> 55:08.440]  you're mired in detail, so you have no idea where to put them.
[55:08.440 --> 55:13.720]  Well, the most important detail was that you hadn't had a chance to look at this, and I
[55:13.720 --> 55:21.760]  should have been prepared for that, and I wasn't, but at least you found the email and...
[55:21.760 --> 55:23.280]  Oh, I did read this.
[55:23.280 --> 55:26.000]  I read that first paragraph three or four times.
[55:26.000 --> 55:30.920]  I couldn't... I didn't understand what you were trying to tell me, because I didn't
[55:30.920 --> 55:35.600]  understand, and you assumed already knew what you were talking about, and I had no memory
[55:35.600 --> 55:36.600]  whatsoever.
[55:36.600 --> 55:41.720]  Well, yeah, that was all said in the previous email, like I said, and again, I assumed that
[55:41.720 --> 55:48.640]  you've read through it, and that was my mistake, but I appreciate just being able to be on
[55:48.640 --> 55:59.240]  the show and let alone that we haven't gotten anywhere with this, but I'd like to get your
[55:59.240 --> 56:04.680]  attention if I can, and it's not... Thank you very much, but yeah...
[56:04.680 --> 56:06.760]  No, no, wait a minute, wait a minute.
[56:06.760 --> 56:12.520]  You can't write me an introduction.
[56:12.520 --> 56:14.640]  That's in the previous email that...
[56:14.640 --> 56:19.160]  No, I'm not going to go to a previous email and then come to another email, and back in
[56:19.160 --> 56:22.240] ... If you want me to try to work with this, you've got to give it to me in a way I can
[56:22.240 --> 56:23.240]  work with.
[56:23.240 --> 56:28.200]  I'm not going to collect all of your emails and go through all of your emails so I can
[56:28.200 --> 56:32.160]  find all these details, scatter all... All right, time for that.
[56:32.160 --> 56:35.920]  Say an email, it's in there, believe me, and then I just...
[56:35.920 --> 56:42.120]  Yeah, I'm sure it is, but if it's in there like this, I have no way to organize it, and
[56:42.120 --> 56:49.680]  it should tell you something that you have the other email in here, and I have zero recall,
[56:49.680 --> 56:53.720]  and I never just pass over an email.
[56:53.720 --> 56:57.080]  So whatever you sent me did not stick for some reason.
[56:57.080 --> 57:01.760]  That's understandable, I don't want it to stick on me either, this is a pain in the
[57:01.760 --> 57:02.760]  rear.
[57:02.760 --> 57:03.760]  No, no, no.
[57:03.760 --> 57:09.920]  I'm really talking about here how to communicate so what you're doing makes sense to other
[57:09.920 --> 57:19.640]  people, but I'm not trying to criticize your work, and I understand this is a serious problem,
[57:19.640 --> 57:26.920]  and let's stop talking about the structure of the document, and let's go to the lawyers.
[57:26.920 --> 57:32.360]  But that is one of my favorite subjects, how to beat up lawyers, have you bar-greaved
[57:32.360 --> 57:33.360]  them at all?
[57:33.360 --> 57:35.360]  I'm right with you.
[57:35.360 --> 57:39.440]  Yeah, have you bar-greaved the lawyers at all?
[57:39.440 --> 57:45.840]  That's why I'm on the phone with you right now, and trying to determine what course,
[57:45.840 --> 57:46.840]  whether...
[57:46.840 --> 57:50.560]  Okay, no, no, no, I'm just trying to find out where you're at.
[57:50.560 --> 57:54.520]  So you haven't bar-greaved them, so essentially they've kind of done whatever they wanted
[57:54.520 --> 57:55.520]  to.
[57:55.520 --> 58:02.280]  In fact, can you send me another one that only goes to the lawyers?
[58:02.280 --> 58:06.240]  I've got the context of how this came about.
[58:06.240 --> 58:12.120]  Tell me about the lawsuits, send me a copy of any lawsuits, any court pleadings that
[58:12.120 --> 58:18.920]  lawyers have produced, and then let's talk about the lawyers.
[58:18.920 --> 58:26.840]  What's your address, and how do I get in contact with you short of the show here?
[58:26.840 --> 58:29.920]  Email me and ask my phone number, I'll send it back to you.
[58:29.920 --> 58:35.400]  Well, that sounds like a plan, and I appreciate your time.
[58:35.400 --> 58:37.680]  Okay, thank you, Chris.
[58:37.680 --> 58:41.920]  Now we're going to go to Francis as soon as we come back from the break.
[58:41.920 --> 58:50.520]  Randy Kelton, Real Law Radio, we'll be right back.
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[01:00:42.280 --> 01:00:52.680]  Today in history, the year 1916, the Preparedness Day bombing, a time suitcase bomb, was detonated
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[01:00:58.000 --> 01:01:05.000]  the 10 and entering 40.
[01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:06.000]  And recent news.
[01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:10.680]  Since Governor Greg Abbott signed House Bill 1325, legalizing Hemp and Attacks's law back
[01:01:10.680 --> 01:01:15.360]  in June, county prosecutors around the state, including Houston, Austin, and San Antonio,
[01:01:15.360 --> 01:01:19.360]  have been dropping marijuana possession charges and even refusing to file new ones since they
[01:01:19.360 --> 01:01:23.480]  are stipulating that they do not have the time or the laboratory equipment to test the
[01:01:23.480 --> 01:01:28.200]  ear for THC. Margaret Moore, the Travis County District Attorney, announced earlier this
[01:01:28.200 --> 01:01:33.160]  month that she was dismissing 32 felony possession and delivery of marijuana cases because of
[01:01:33.160 --> 01:01:34.160]  the law.
[01:01:34.160 --> 01:01:37.840]  Mr. Abbott and other state officials, including the Attorney General, stipulated in a letter
[01:01:37.840 --> 01:01:42.360]  that county district attorneys back on Thursday that marijuana has not been decriminalized
[01:01:42.360 --> 01:01:48.520]  in Texas and that these actions demonstrate a misunderstanding of how HB 1325 works, as
[01:01:48.520 --> 01:01:54.760]  well as other cities, too, like the District Attorney, in El Paso, Caima Esparza, a Democrat
[01:01:54.760 --> 01:01:59.240]  who also stated earlier this month that the law, quote, will not have an effect on the
[01:01:59.240 --> 01:02:02.040]  prosecution of marijuana cases in El Paso.
[01:02:02.040 --> 01:02:07.040]  However, the issue was succinctly summarized by Mr. Brandon Ball, an assistant public defender
[01:02:07.040 --> 01:02:11.000]  in Harris County, who stated that, quote, the law is constantly changing on what makes
[01:02:11.000 --> 01:02:13.720]  something illegal based on its chemical makeup.
[01:02:13.720 --> 01:02:17.640]  It's important that if someone is charged with something, the test matches what they're
[01:02:17.640 --> 01:02:22.800]  charged with.
[01:02:22.800 --> 01:02:27.640]  A paper by Tulane University identified a five and a half inch American pocket shark.
[01:02:27.640 --> 01:02:32.560]  As the first of its kind in the Gulf of Mexico, the specimen being only the second pocket
[01:02:32.560 --> 01:02:38.200]  shark ever captured or recorded with the other one being found way back in 1979 in the East
[01:02:38.200 --> 01:02:39.700]  Pacific Ocean.
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[01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:50.280]  its front fins for the purposes hypothesized to lure and prey who may be drawn into the
[01:02:50.280 --> 01:03:16.680]  clove.
[01:03:16.680 --> 01:03:31.600]  Okay, we are back, Randy Carlton, we are live on radio, and we're going to Francis
[01:03:31.600 --> 01:03:32.600]  in Colorado.
[01:03:32.600 --> 01:03:36.240]  Oh, you're not in Colorado anymore.
[01:03:36.240 --> 01:03:39.600]  I'm close enough.
[01:03:39.600 --> 01:03:43.160]  Okay.
[01:03:43.160 --> 01:03:46.160]  So what do you have for us today?
[01:03:46.160 --> 01:03:51.880]  Well, I'm going to give you a real short one and then I'm going to talk about the UCC.
[01:03:51.880 --> 01:04:00.440]  We filed a case at the beginning of the year over the property that was foreclosed on and
[01:04:00.440 --> 01:04:06.280]  we were evicted, but before we were evicted, we started through the process to quiet the
[01:04:06.280 --> 01:04:15.720]  title and MERS cashed the money order, which in Colorado was required to offer to get a
[01:04:15.720 --> 01:04:19.400]  quick claim to the money order and a quick claim to go together.
[01:04:19.400 --> 01:04:27.040]  And MERS cashed that on the last day of 2012 and then we filed the action to quiet title
[01:04:27.040 --> 01:04:30.920]  in February, like Valentine's Day.
[01:04:30.920 --> 01:04:41.160]  And we had sent out the quick claims to Fannie Mae and Chase and MERS, I don't think there
[01:04:41.160 --> 01:04:45.760]  was any, there might have been one more person I can't remember, I guess Chase on finance.
[01:04:45.760 --> 01:04:50.360]  Anyway, MERS cashed theirs and the others sent theirs back and then when we filed the
[01:04:50.360 --> 01:04:58.080]  action to quiet title, we ran an ad for five weeks, but we only named the mortgage company,
[01:04:58.080 --> 01:05:02.720]  that was the other party we sent a $20 check to.
[01:05:02.720 --> 01:05:09.280]  And they've been out of business since several years before the foreclosure and they also
[01:05:09.280 --> 01:05:16.720]  sold off the notes basically almost before the ink was dry on the paper, which is common.
[01:05:16.720 --> 01:05:23.080]  And so they suddenly rose from the grave and had attorneys show up.
[01:05:23.080 --> 01:05:26.400]  And so anyway, we've, that went,
[01:05:26.400 --> 01:05:34.240]  Wait a minute, you're saying they had attorneys show up from a non-existent company?
[01:05:34.240 --> 01:05:35.640]  That is correct.
[01:05:35.640 --> 01:05:40.600]  So have you sued those attorneys?
[01:05:40.600 --> 01:05:46.680]  You know, I haven't Randy, but I did, I tried to compel the court to force them to show
[01:05:46.680 --> 01:05:53.120]  agency and they refused and then it went down to appeals and I was accused of being a vexatious
[01:05:53.120 --> 01:05:57.280]  litigant and lost the appeal.
[01:05:57.280 --> 01:06:05.680]  And so then I realized, hold on here, MERS signed off and we actually filed, before we
[01:06:05.680 --> 01:06:13.160]  filed for the action to quiet title, we filed a non-abandonment document into the county
[01:06:13.160 --> 01:06:17.040]  record with the saying on the bottom, if this is not legal, that, you know, please remove
[01:06:17.040 --> 01:06:18.040]  it.
[01:06:18.040 --> 01:06:21.720]  Well, Annie may have been trying for about three years to get us to just sign off and
[01:06:21.720 --> 01:06:28.480]  remove that lien and that house has been sitting empty for six and a half years now since they
[01:06:28.480 --> 01:06:31.440]  evicted us in 2013.
[01:06:31.440 --> 01:06:37.240]  And they can't sell it because we have a lien against it and they can't strip the lien.
[01:06:37.240 --> 01:06:42.400]  And so we filed to just get them to move into summary judgment and just pay us off and get
[01:06:42.400 --> 01:06:45.720]  rid of it, right, put some money in our pocket.
[01:06:45.720 --> 01:06:52.440]  And so the case came to, we have some issues about stuff and anyway, we filed it in January
[01:06:52.440 --> 01:06:56.840]  and then it came as issue on April the 11th of this year.
[01:06:56.840 --> 01:07:05.520]  On April the 18th, Danny may file the case, the county court district court combined our
[01:07:05.520 --> 01:07:10.240]  case with theirs and we went from being a plaintiff to a defendant.
[01:07:10.240 --> 01:07:14.920]  And I tried to remove that to the federal court and they bounced it right back down,
[01:07:14.920 --> 01:07:19.840]  but they don't want anything to do with Fannie Mae or any of these others.
[01:07:19.840 --> 01:07:27.440]  So got any suggestions about how to, I do not have any interest in fighting as a defendant.
[01:07:27.440 --> 01:07:33.560]  We started as a plaintiff and they made us pay a fee to answer into this combined case,
[01:07:33.560 --> 01:07:37.040]  which I need to file a notice to get a refund.
[01:07:37.040 --> 01:07:45.120]  But so I am in a position, time wise, where I could file a motion for reconsideration into
[01:07:45.120 --> 01:07:46.120]  the court.
[01:07:46.120 --> 01:07:49.240]  Absolutely, absolutely file a motion for reconsideration.
[01:07:49.240 --> 01:07:50.240]  Okay.
[01:07:50.240 --> 01:07:59.960]  I'll always do that and show cause as to why you need to, now that you have the ruling,
[01:07:59.960 --> 01:08:08.400]  you can examine the ruling and show why the ruling is, was improper and get those facts
[01:08:08.400 --> 01:08:11.360]  and law on the record.
[01:08:11.360 --> 01:08:13.880]  Okay.
[01:08:13.880 --> 01:08:14.880]  So always do that.
[01:08:14.880 --> 01:08:15.880]  It was a little bit detailed.
[01:08:15.880 --> 01:08:16.880]  Okay.
[01:08:16.880 --> 01:08:17.880]  So I'll do that.
[01:08:17.880 --> 01:08:18.880]  Hold on.
[01:08:18.880 --> 01:08:19.880]  Hold on.
[01:08:19.880 --> 01:08:20.880]  Hold on.
[01:08:20.880 --> 01:08:28.840]  This is a state court, so did you get, does the state of Colorado include a judgment with
[01:08:28.840 --> 01:08:33.840]  the order like the Fed does?
[01:08:33.840 --> 01:08:34.840]  Okay.
[01:08:34.840 --> 01:08:35.840]  Hold on.
[01:08:35.840 --> 01:08:36.840]  Hold on.
[01:08:36.840 --> 01:08:42.960]  For those who don't know what I'm asking, we always want to ask for findings of fact
[01:08:42.960 --> 01:08:45.440]  and conclusions of law.
[01:08:45.440 --> 01:08:54.560]  In the Fed, an order is not complete unless it has a judgment and the judgment are the
[01:08:54.560 --> 01:08:58.040]  findings of fact and conclusions of law.
[01:08:58.040 --> 01:08:59.400]  This is the law.
[01:08:59.400 --> 01:09:00.600]  These are the facts.
[01:09:00.600 --> 01:09:03.040]  This is how we came to this decision.
[01:09:03.040 --> 01:09:11.040]  Do they do that in Colorado or do you have to ask for it?
[01:09:11.040 --> 01:09:14.840]  Well, you know what they, it's odd what they did, Randy.
[01:09:14.840 --> 01:09:20.760]  We filed a case and there were some issues and I don't have a problem telling you what
[01:09:20.760 --> 01:09:25.800]  they were, but they acted like they did get processed first and they got processed first
[01:09:25.800 --> 01:09:29.120]  because they got mailed from me because of where I was.
[01:09:29.120 --> 01:09:33.400]  So we didn't have to do the regular process service.
[01:09:33.400 --> 01:09:39.520]  And so the case came finally, I mean, we filed it in January and then finally in April we
[01:09:39.520 --> 01:09:47.080]  went through all the machinations because I have a problem with an attorney, he threw
[01:09:47.080 --> 01:09:51.120]  me under the bus and not only did he throw me underneath the bus, but he's trying to
[01:09:51.120 --> 01:09:52.120]  destroy our lives.
[01:09:52.120 --> 01:09:55.880]  And I think the last time I was on the show, I talked to you about the fact that he had
[01:09:55.880 --> 01:10:00.840]  come out, sent the cops and they had changed the court paperwork and taken two vehicles
[01:10:00.840 --> 01:10:06.240]  off the property where we were living without even a warrant.
[01:10:06.240 --> 01:10:13.000]  I don't know if you remember that, but anyway, that was a pretty, okay, so from there it
[01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:14.480]  only got worse.
[01:10:14.480 --> 01:10:25.240]  In fact, it is so bad and we've lost the appeal, this guy had no standing to name my husband
[01:10:25.240 --> 01:10:34.920]  and basically the bottom line stopped dancing around it, somehow another, well, so he got
[01:10:34.920 --> 01:10:43.280]  a judgment in the form of a sanction because the judge felt that our answers to interrogatories
[01:10:43.280 --> 01:10:44.280]  were inadequate.
[01:10:44.280 --> 01:10:48.760]  We've had attorneys look at him since then and they were fine, but this guy had a deal
[01:10:48.760 --> 01:10:59.600]  going with the court and so he basically is enforcing an unconscionable fee agreement
[01:10:59.600 --> 01:11:07.720]  or whatever, a retainer that I never signed and he sent a threatening email and then seven
[01:11:07.720 --> 01:11:14.080]  days later filed a fault QCC lien against me saying he had a lien against all my money
[01:11:14.080 --> 01:11:20.240]  and all my property, which doesn't meet muster for the UCC, but I didn't know about that
[01:11:20.240 --> 01:11:22.960]  document for 17 months.
[01:11:22.960 --> 01:11:30.320]  He used that to say he had a final judgment against me, which it's a spurious lien in
[01:11:30.320 --> 01:11:36.840]  the Secretary of State that he self-filed and then he named his husband.
[01:11:36.840 --> 01:11:46.080]  Most states have filed, have passed legislation specifically to address those kinds of liens.
[01:11:46.080 --> 01:11:49.480]  Yes, and so has Colorado.
[01:11:49.480 --> 01:11:57.320]  Colorado requires, the one that applies to us is that there is a final judgment from
[01:11:57.320 --> 01:12:05.440]  a court, federal or state stating that there is a lien and or my consent, which would go
[01:12:05.440 --> 01:12:12.840]  down the UCC stating that you have to file, sign a security agreement agreeing to that
[01:12:12.840 --> 01:12:15.600]  lien if he doesn't have a lien.
[01:12:15.600 --> 01:12:22.600]  He could have backed into it maybe if he had a wet ink signed contract, a retainer agreed
[01:12:22.600 --> 01:12:30.000]  to if he doesn't have, he suited up, he filed the case with a blank unsigned contract stating
[01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:33.400]  that he had done a whole bunch of work and he did nothing.
[01:12:33.400 --> 01:12:41.320]  But this is after he completely obliterated the overstep where my dad's life was taken
[01:12:41.320 --> 01:12:47.800]  and after his will was changed, this all goes back to there.
[01:12:47.800 --> 01:12:55.600]  But anyway, this guy working with this court drew us in jail.
[01:12:55.600 --> 01:13:02.760]  We did, allegedly for contempt and we never had a jury trial.
[01:13:02.760 --> 01:13:08.160]  There was never a defined purge clause that would allow us to get ourselves out of jail
[01:13:08.160 --> 01:13:11.080]  after we were in.
[01:13:11.080 --> 01:13:18.000]  He held Galen, so then he would call, he called Galen, my husband, to court and the provision
[01:13:18.000 --> 01:13:27.040]  was that he had to sign over the corporate portion of a Mercedes that this guy coveted.
[01:13:27.040 --> 01:13:32.640]  We turned over the car to avoid being arrested, so that would have been the third car that
[01:13:32.640 --> 01:13:33.640]  he took.
[01:13:33.640 --> 01:13:36.640]  All of our vehicles were partially owned by our C corporation.
[01:13:36.640 --> 01:13:39.080]  Okay, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
[01:13:39.080 --> 01:13:42.520]  This kid, we can do the rest of the show here.
[01:13:42.520 --> 01:13:48.400]  Okay, so I said, like, anyway, I said, my husband lost his job.
[01:13:48.400 --> 01:13:50.960]  We were evicted from the property.
[01:13:50.960 --> 01:13:58.160]  While we were in, he was coming and going in and out of our residence and storage unit.
[01:13:58.160 --> 01:14:03.200]  He was taking things and he didn't have warrants.
[01:14:03.200 --> 01:14:06.560]  And so that's another question.
[01:14:06.560 --> 01:14:12.000]  You were telling the first lady before Chris that she should report that to the Supreme
[01:14:12.000 --> 01:14:18.160]  Court because those are crimes I've been trying to go through the police.
[01:14:18.160 --> 01:14:26.480]  And of course, because he's defamed my character and I sat in jail with him for 10 months, unable
[01:14:26.480 --> 01:14:33.040]  to get myself out, unable to purge my civil contempt.
[01:14:33.040 --> 01:14:38.760]  Every writ this man wrote, he gave and the court just signed off on it, didn't even look
[01:14:38.760 --> 01:14:39.760]  at it.
[01:14:39.760 --> 01:14:47.960]  He called the counties to use all force as necessary, all such force as necessary, which
[01:14:47.960 --> 01:14:53.120]  I asked the cop and they said that basically that gives them permission to kill us, which
[01:14:53.120 --> 01:14:56.000]  is illegal in a civil case.
[01:14:56.000 --> 01:15:00.960]  This is a money judgment alleged.
[01:15:00.960 --> 01:15:09.520]  And we believe that he, after, well, after we were evicted and I was still out of commission
[01:15:09.520 --> 01:15:15.920]  and Galen was out, this guy came and went into the barn behind the house we used to live
[01:15:15.920 --> 01:15:21.640]  in where the landlord was so generous and gracious that he let us put our stuff back
[01:15:21.640 --> 01:15:28.200]  there that he came and went from there so he could give anybody a walking tour about
[01:15:28.200 --> 01:15:30.160]  what was in that barn it was stunning.
[01:15:30.160 --> 01:15:32.920]  The neighbors did witness him coming and going.
[01:15:32.920 --> 01:15:35.360]  He ended up taking all five vehicles.
[01:15:35.360 --> 01:15:36.360]  Okay.
[01:15:36.360 --> 01:15:37.360]  Wait a minute.
[01:15:37.360 --> 01:15:38.360]  Wait a minute.
[01:15:38.360 --> 01:15:39.360]  Hold on.
[01:15:39.360 --> 01:15:40.360]  Where are you going?
[01:15:40.360 --> 01:15:41.360]  I got that.
[01:15:41.360 --> 01:15:45.720]  This is a bad guy that he stole everything from you.
[01:15:45.720 --> 01:15:46.720]  I got that.
[01:15:46.720 --> 01:15:47.720]  Yeah.
[01:15:47.720 --> 01:15:48.720]  Where are we going?
[01:15:48.720 --> 01:15:54.080]  Well, okay, so if we go back to the real estate thing, I couldn't have people normally
[01:15:54.080 --> 01:15:56.400]  process her because I wasn't.
[01:15:56.400 --> 01:16:02.840]  So the way that works is that if you mail it out to someone, it's processed first.
[01:16:02.840 --> 01:16:07.400]  So we finally got through all the machinations of we can't pay the filing fee and all the
[01:16:07.400 --> 01:16:15.920]  rest of it and the court accepted this case to try to settle a non-abandonment lien and
[01:16:15.920 --> 01:16:23.160]  they accepted it on the 18th, you know, the 11th of April and on the 18th of April, seven
[01:16:23.160 --> 01:16:27.440]  days later, we had zero notice.
[01:16:27.440 --> 01:16:35.360]  And all of a sudden, Francis, Francis, you can spend two weeks going through all these
[01:16:35.360 --> 01:16:36.360]  details.
[01:16:36.360 --> 01:16:42.560]  I have no idea where you're going, so I have no idea how to organize this.
[01:16:42.560 --> 01:16:47.920]  You got stuff on top of us, stuff on top of us, stuff on top of us.
[01:16:47.920 --> 01:16:48.920]  Where are we going?
[01:16:48.920 --> 01:16:49.920]  Hang on.
[01:16:49.920 --> 01:16:50.920]  We're about to go to break.
[01:16:50.920 --> 01:16:51.920]  Okay.
[01:16:51.920 --> 01:16:52.920]  I need a place to work from.
[01:16:52.920 --> 01:16:53.920]  We'll be right back.
[01:16:53.920 --> 01:16:54.920]  Okay.
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[01:19:00.960 --> 01:19:27.960]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Rula La Radio, we're talking to Francis in, not in Colorado.
[01:19:27.960 --> 01:19:29.360]  Okay, Francis.
[01:19:29.360 --> 01:19:32.560]  I know, a lot of bad stuff happened.
[01:19:32.560 --> 01:19:33.560]  Where are we going here?
[01:19:33.560 --> 01:19:37.320]  Let's go back to where you asked about findings of fact and conclusions of law, and the answer
[01:19:37.320 --> 01:19:39.320]  is they don't do that in Colorado.
[01:19:39.320 --> 01:19:42.720]  You have to ask, and even if you ask, you don't always get them.
[01:19:42.720 --> 01:19:50.600]  Well, that's okay, you always ask anyway, and the way you ask is you produce findings
[01:19:50.600 --> 01:19:54.200]  of fact and conclusions at law.
[01:19:54.200 --> 01:20:02.040]  File it with your request and ask the court to accept your findings or prepare their own.
[01:20:02.040 --> 01:20:10.920]  That way, you get your, it's essentially a demure to their ruling, you get it in the
[01:20:10.920 --> 01:20:11.920]  record.
[01:20:11.920 --> 01:20:13.920]  That's a good idea.
[01:20:13.920 --> 01:20:17.640]  Well, this one, it just went real odd.
[01:20:17.640 --> 01:20:18.640]  Here's how it went.
[01:20:18.640 --> 01:20:19.640]  So, standing by.
[01:20:19.640 --> 01:20:22.240]  Okay, wait a minute, Francis.
[01:20:22.240 --> 01:20:26.280]  Let me go into another 20 minutes of detail.
[01:20:26.280 --> 01:20:32.640]  Tell me what happened, what's relevant to where you want to go next, and I understand
[01:20:32.640 --> 01:20:33.640]  this, Francis.
[01:20:33.640 --> 01:20:36.800]  This is, you had so many bad things happen.
[01:20:36.800 --> 01:20:37.800]  I know.
[01:20:37.800 --> 01:20:42.520]  It's hard to get to the point because you think that this happened and that happened.
[01:20:42.520 --> 01:20:45.080]  I understand how difficult it is.
[01:20:45.080 --> 01:20:52.080]  Okay, so we had a case, and we were looking for summary judgment because we had already
[01:20:52.080 --> 01:20:59.320]  sent notices and all this, so seven days after our case was accepted, Fannie Mae filed the
[01:20:59.320 --> 01:21:07.400]  case and the court combines our case with Fannie Mae, and we go from being plaintiff
[01:21:07.400 --> 01:21:15.840]  to defendant, and out of the blue, we get a notice of a hearing where Fannie Mae filed
[01:21:15.840 --> 01:21:21.400]  a motion to show cause, and they were granted a hearing, and that's all we've got.
[01:21:21.400 --> 01:21:26.680]  There's not even any, that's what we have, so before I had to do that.
[01:21:26.680 --> 01:21:33.920]  Okay, motion to show cause, does it say show cause for what?
[01:21:33.920 --> 01:21:40.440]  Well, that I needed to go through the process of sending out the money orders and the quick
[01:21:40.440 --> 01:21:42.920]  claim deeds, which I did in 2012.
[01:21:42.920 --> 01:21:47.880]  So, I don't have any problems doing that, except for I haven't.
[01:21:47.880 --> 01:21:50.280]  No, wait a minute, wait a minute, I don't know what you're talking about.
[01:21:50.280 --> 01:21:55.720]  We have a motion to show cause, what's the show cause for what?
[01:21:55.720 --> 01:22:06.880]  We didn't do that, show cause, why we did not send out, why our lien is not furious,
[01:22:06.880 --> 01:22:15.840]  and based on Colorado rules of civil procedure 105.1, which is you have to send out a $20
[01:22:15.840 --> 01:22:20.400]  order and a quick claim deed with a letter of intent to sue.
[01:22:20.400 --> 01:22:28.680]  We did that in 2012, before we did the actions to quiet title, so we already did that.
[01:22:28.680 --> 01:22:33.200]  We did it years ago, and I don't know, it seems to me that that still would apply, because
[01:22:33.200 --> 01:22:36.040]  Fannie Mae was sent one and they didn't.
[01:22:36.040 --> 01:22:43.680]  Yeah, if it's in the record and it wasn't challenged, then it can't be challenged
[01:22:43.680 --> 01:22:48.840]  at this point, depending on the state, generally it's four to six years.
[01:22:48.840 --> 01:22:54.680]  Once something is set in the record for a certain amount of time, it becomes true and
[01:22:54.680 --> 01:23:02.760]  unassailable because of the passage of time, and six years is the longest I've ever heard
[01:23:02.760 --> 01:23:03.760]  of.
[01:23:03.760 --> 01:23:09.520]  Okay, so I need to check on the statute of limitations on that.
[01:23:09.520 --> 01:23:12.960]  You should, but I'm sure it's not going to be over six years.
[01:23:12.960 --> 01:23:13.960]  Okay.
[01:23:13.960 --> 01:23:22.120]  That's so that you try to sell a piece of property and they come up with a, I'm sorry,
[01:23:22.120 --> 01:23:30.840]  you put a claim against property, and ten years later somebody challenges that claim.
[01:23:30.840 --> 01:23:35.000]  And of course, you've got to challenge that in somewhat of a timely manner, because all
[01:23:35.000 --> 01:23:40.960]  the witnesses, anybody who would know anything would be gone, it would be impossible to adjudicate
[01:23:40.960 --> 01:23:43.520]  the claim over a long period of time.
[01:23:43.520 --> 01:23:46.600]  So in Texas, you've got four years.
[01:23:46.600 --> 01:23:51.040]  If a document's been in the record for four years and hasn't been challenged, you can't
[01:23:51.040 --> 01:23:52.640]  challenge it.
[01:23:52.640 --> 01:23:56.960]  The longest I've heard of was six years, and I think that was New York.
[01:23:56.960 --> 01:24:02.240]  Okay, so, okay, all right, let me see if I have that in my, because that might just solve
[01:24:02.240 --> 01:24:03.760]  the whole dog on case.
[01:24:03.760 --> 01:24:06.520]  So this document has not been challenged.
[01:24:06.520 --> 01:24:09.320]  They've tried to get us to take it off the record on their own.
[01:24:09.320 --> 01:24:18.560]  We filed it on January of 2013, so it's over six years in January this year.
[01:24:18.560 --> 01:24:24.600]  And our case came up on April, so we're over six years, and they never challenged it.
[01:24:24.600 --> 01:24:27.440]  They tried to get some attorneys to get us to back it down.
[01:24:27.440 --> 01:24:34.000]  So do we go on with it's unassailable at this point, or I have to find the case law on that?
[01:24:34.000 --> 01:24:38.960]  Yeah, it should be pretty easy to find.
[01:24:38.960 --> 01:24:42.480]  There will be limitations on challenging documents.
[01:24:42.480 --> 01:24:44.600]  I haven't had any problem finding that.
[01:24:44.600 --> 01:24:50.400]  There'll be a section on statute of limitations concerning property, and it'll be listed in
[01:24:50.400 --> 01:24:51.400]  that section.
[01:24:51.400 --> 01:24:52.400]  Okay.
[01:24:52.400 --> 01:24:54.680]  But at least every other state was.
[01:24:54.680 --> 01:24:57.480]  They had all the statute of limitations together.
[01:24:57.480 --> 01:24:58.480]  Okay.
[01:24:58.480 --> 01:25:04.000]  Well, the district court, the U.S. district court is challenging me on diversity.
[01:25:04.000 --> 01:25:05.000]  That's what theirs was.
[01:25:05.000 --> 01:25:09.600]  So the motion for reconsideration would be on diversity, but if this document wasn't
[01:25:09.600 --> 01:25:13.360]  challenged, that's the place to go.
[01:25:13.360 --> 01:25:16.640]  And I'll do both of them at the same time, just in case.
[01:25:16.640 --> 01:25:19.600]  But so, yeah, thank you.
[01:25:19.600 --> 01:25:25.720]  You answered my question when I finally got my head out of my bucket.
[01:25:25.720 --> 01:25:26.720]  It's hard.
[01:25:26.720 --> 01:25:31.640]  And, you know, I was talking to the caller before about a timeline.
[01:25:31.640 --> 01:25:38.520]  And that's why a timeline is absolutely critical, keeps you focused, and especially in a case
[01:25:38.520 --> 01:25:42.400]  like yours where you have so many things that have happened.
[01:25:42.400 --> 01:25:56.760]  I'm wondering, with the change in the political climate, you might consider a federal recall.
[01:25:56.760 --> 01:26:01.920]  A federal recall of the judges?
[01:26:01.920 --> 01:26:04.760]  Pardon me?
[01:26:04.760 --> 01:26:06.400]  A federal recall of what?
[01:26:06.400 --> 01:26:10.200]  Against the state of Colorado.
[01:26:10.200 --> 01:26:14.760]  There's more and more pressure on the courts and the banks.
[01:26:14.760 --> 01:26:20.800]  It's clear that the courts have been bought and paid for.
[01:26:20.800 --> 01:26:24.560]  The banks have pretty well finished their scam.
[01:26:24.560 --> 01:26:29.520]  Now that they've finished their scam, they'll start throwing everybody that participated
[01:26:29.520 --> 01:26:32.240]  in it under the bus.
[01:26:32.240 --> 01:26:33.560]  Right.
[01:26:33.560 --> 01:26:37.120]  So with a recall, you can go after the judges.
[01:26:37.120 --> 01:26:43.560]  I have some Texas case law, and there's probably Colorado case law if you can find it.
[01:26:43.560 --> 01:26:52.600]  That says, a judge has no discretion in properly applying the law to the facts of failure to
[01:26:52.600 --> 01:26:57.440]  do so is an abuse of discretion.
[01:26:57.440 --> 01:27:03.520]  An abuse of discretion that has the effect of denying a citizen's form for access to
[01:27:03.520 --> 01:27:04.520]  and joining a right.
[01:27:04.520 --> 01:27:06.560]  That's fishing with conduct and everything.
[01:27:06.560 --> 01:27:08.520]  That's crime.
[01:27:08.520 --> 01:27:13.840]  So if you can show that the judge failed to apply the law to the facts, even if you don't
[01:27:13.840 --> 01:27:17.080]  have Colorado case law, send me an email.
[01:27:17.080 --> 01:27:24.880]  I'll send you Texas case law and under good faith and credit, you can bring this case
[01:27:24.880 --> 01:27:34.200]  law into Colorado because it is, I'm surprised it was so hard for me to find it.
[01:27:34.200 --> 01:27:40.320]  What other purpose does the judge have other than determining the law in accordance with
[01:27:40.320 --> 01:27:44.840]  the rules of evidence, then applying the law as it comes to him with the facts in the case?
[01:27:44.840 --> 01:27:51.400]  If the judge has the authority to arbitrarily and capriciously apply the law, then the law
[01:27:51.400 --> 01:27:53.520]  is meaningless.
[01:27:53.520 --> 01:27:55.520]  So they have to have it.
[01:27:55.520 --> 01:27:56.520]  Right.
[01:27:56.520 --> 01:27:59.120]  And then you take the judge to task criminally.
[01:27:59.120 --> 01:28:00.120]  Criminally.
[01:28:00.120 --> 01:28:04.960]  And so now when I do that, I'm not going to the police at Miami.
[01:28:04.960 --> 01:28:07.360]  I go in like the caller before Chris.
[01:28:07.360 --> 01:28:10.920]  The other caller from California, am I going to the Supreme Court because they just turned
[01:28:10.920 --> 01:28:11.920]  me down.
[01:28:11.920 --> 01:28:13.480]  They say I've lost our appeal.
[01:28:13.480 --> 01:28:14.880]  We don't care.
[01:28:14.880 --> 01:28:15.520]  This is politics.
[01:28:15.520 --> 01:28:28.720]  You have a whole procedure to go through where you put dirty marks on everybody's chart.
[01:28:28.720 --> 01:28:36.600]  And since you're the criminal complainant, you're protected.
[01:28:36.600 --> 01:28:39.400]  Anybody even when I start this.
[01:28:39.400 --> 01:28:45.320]  If I get a bailiff say, oh, Mr. Kelton, you need to be careful.
[01:28:45.320 --> 01:28:48.400]  You can get in a lot of trouble filing these complaints.
[01:28:48.400 --> 01:28:49.400]  911.
[01:28:49.400 --> 01:28:53.520]  This guy just threatened me and he's got a gun.
[01:28:53.520 --> 01:28:55.200]  I didn't threaten you.
[01:28:55.200 --> 01:28:57.880]  It doesn't matter what you said.
[01:28:57.880 --> 01:29:00.000]  Matters how I took it.
[01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:02.200]  You should kept your mouth shut.
[01:29:02.200 --> 01:29:08.240]  Now I want him arrested first before me I raise salt.
[01:29:08.240 --> 01:29:11.520]  You didn't read the code, Bubba, but I did.
[01:29:11.520 --> 01:29:14.960]  In Texas, it's first degree felony.
[01:29:14.960 --> 01:29:17.800]  Threatened me while prominently displaying a deadly weapon.
[01:29:17.800 --> 01:29:18.800]  That's aggravated.
[01:29:18.800 --> 01:29:22.800]  That's a felony assault in every state.
[01:29:22.800 --> 01:29:31.000]  But in Texas, if he is a public official, it's first degree felony.
[01:29:31.000 --> 01:29:32.000]  Take them on.
[01:29:32.000 --> 01:29:35.040]  That's the one thing they can't fight back.
[01:29:35.040 --> 01:29:36.040]  That's the weak spot.
[01:29:36.040 --> 01:29:37.960]  They want you to miss it.
[01:29:37.960 --> 01:29:41.040]  And that's why RICO is so powerful.
[01:29:41.040 --> 01:29:46.560]  Because RICO is a civil suit that what you develop in the civil discovery you can use
[01:29:46.560 --> 01:29:48.800]  in criminal prosecution against them.
[01:29:48.800 --> 01:29:49.800]  Hang on.
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[01:33:25.420 --> 01:33:32.420]  I think I hate Colorado more than any other state I've ever been in, except maybe Illinois.
[01:33:32.420 --> 01:33:37.420]  California? Not in Colorado anymore. Close.
[01:33:37.420 --> 01:33:45.420]  Did I say California? I met Colorado. I think I hate Colorado more than any other state I've ever been in.
[01:33:45.420 --> 01:33:56.420]  Except maybe Illinois. I grew up in Illinois. But last time I was in Colorado, I could not get out of there fast enough.
[01:33:56.420 --> 01:34:06.420]  Beautiful state. The scenery was incredible. But the people were so miserable.
[01:34:06.420 --> 01:34:16.420]  It's very strange. And after being taken out of circulation and then being back out, it was more than I could handle. So we got out of there.
[01:34:16.420 --> 01:34:35.420]  So anyway, you know, I'm listening to you and the abuse of discretion, I did bring that up. But we're just, this person is not being called out and so we're really behind the eight ball.
[01:34:35.420 --> 01:34:50.420]  But I probably need to like maybe call back next week and talk to you about the UCC. Because I now have some information on statute limitations that I think they're over.
[01:34:50.420 --> 01:34:54.420]  I think Fannie Mae's not got a leg to stand on.
[01:34:54.420 --> 01:35:01.420]  Yeah, if statute limitations is passed, then the motion to strike would be in order.
[01:35:01.420 --> 01:35:08.420]  Okay. That's the easiest way to handle it if it's just too late.
[01:35:08.420 --> 01:35:19.420]  Well, so now wait, a motion to strike. But there's no judgment or anything. It's just their motion to dismiss, wouldn't it be?
[01:35:19.420 --> 01:35:35.420]  Motion to, whatever the pleading is, they're asking their follow motion to show cause and you follow motion to strike that motion because they cannot be challenged as past statute limitations.
[01:35:35.420 --> 01:35:40.420]  Okay. And then it would be a separate motion to dismiss the case.
[01:35:40.420 --> 01:35:41.420]  Yes.
[01:35:41.420 --> 01:35:51.420]  Oh, actually, you could, you could put them both in the same document, but they're two different motions.
[01:35:51.420 --> 01:35:59.420]  And so, you know what, so they sucked up our case, which was, you know, trying to get a settlement out of them because if they can't challenge the document.
[01:35:59.420 --> 01:36:09.420]  Now they've sucked up my case where we were the plaintiffs into this case, making us the defendant. Can we ask for that case to be digested?
[01:36:09.420 --> 01:36:11.420]  Or...
[01:36:11.420 --> 01:36:16.420]  Don't know. I would have to see how they got you in there.
[01:36:16.420 --> 01:36:22.420]  We'll see. And I'll have to look because I think they just, they had a friend on the bench.
[01:36:22.420 --> 01:36:36.420]  Well, if you were the petitioner and they brought you into this other case, then they had to have combined the case so you will be both plaintiff and petitioner and defendant.
[01:36:36.420 --> 01:36:43.420]  Oh, we retain that too. Okay. Well, that makes it easier too. Okay. All right. That sounds perfect.
[01:36:43.420 --> 01:36:53.420]  So you've got three, you have to have three litigants there and you're plaintiffs to get to one defendant to the other.
[01:36:53.420 --> 01:36:54.420]  Okay.
[01:36:54.420 --> 01:37:01.420]  Otherwise you would be plaintiff and counter-defendant.
[01:37:01.420 --> 01:37:03.420]  You know what, maybe I'll...
[01:37:03.420 --> 01:37:09.420]  If the other guy filed a counter-claim, you would become counter-defendant in that as regards to counter-claim.
[01:37:09.420 --> 01:37:20.420]  Here you're the plaintiff as regards to first litigant and you're the defendant as it concerns the second litigant.
[01:37:20.420 --> 01:37:26.420]  But how does the second litigant get in? You sure want to look at that?
[01:37:26.420 --> 01:37:30.420]  He's an intra-intervener.
[01:37:30.420 --> 01:37:34.420]  Is there a motion to intervene?
[01:37:34.420 --> 01:37:44.420]  Nothing. None of that was sent to us. Nothing. I mean, all of a sudden we just had letters that said...
[01:37:44.420 --> 01:37:49.420]  You should challenge intervention. This is intervention.
[01:37:49.420 --> 01:38:00.420]  And you should challenge intervention on the part of this, that if there was a motion to intervene, you didn't receive it, so they're denying you due process.
[01:38:00.420 --> 01:38:03.420]  Okay.
[01:38:03.420 --> 01:38:07.420]  Denying a due process is a crime.
[01:38:07.420 --> 01:38:14.420]  Well, you know what it is and we've been denied it so much and that is just...
[01:38:14.420 --> 01:38:18.420]  Have you filed criminal charges?
[01:38:18.420 --> 01:38:24.420]  Well, I'm in the process of filing criminal charges for breaking and entering and thefts and things like that and I'm doing it with...
[01:38:24.420 --> 01:38:30.420]  No, wait, wait, wait a minute. This is years down the road.
[01:38:30.420 --> 01:38:36.420]  Have you...and all this stuff that's gone by, have you not filed criminal charges?
[01:38:36.420 --> 01:38:40.420]  Against the...on the house?
[01:38:40.420 --> 01:38:43.420]  To judge everybody.
[01:38:43.420 --> 01:38:53.420]  Well, we're here in Texas and I was helping a guy that we filed a request for finding the fact and conclusions of law when the judge ruled against it.
[01:38:53.420 --> 01:38:59.420]  And Rule 297 said the judge shall provide finding the fact and conclusions of all within 20 days.
[01:38:59.420 --> 01:39:07.420]  If you fail to reply within 20 days, you can file a notice of late filing and he's got 10 more days.
[01:39:07.420 --> 01:39:19.420]  On the 21st first day, he did not respond. We filed a motion for late filing and we filed criminal charges with the grand jury.
[01:39:19.420 --> 01:39:27.420]  Because the code said he shall respond within 20 days.
[01:39:27.420 --> 01:39:37.420]  He failed to perform a duty he was required to perform and in the process denied the citizen full and free access to or join him of a right.
[01:39:37.420 --> 01:39:42.420]  Explain that to a grand jury, Bubba.
[01:39:42.420 --> 01:39:46.420]  You can do that and you should be doing that.
[01:39:46.420 --> 01:39:56.420]  Nothing else affects these guys until they have to look at facing a grand jury, either a state or federal.
[01:39:56.420 --> 01:39:58.420]  You might start.
[01:39:58.420 --> 01:40:00.420]  Yeah, I did that.
[01:40:00.420 --> 01:40:04.420]  But they never did it and that's been years.
[01:40:04.420 --> 01:40:12.420]  They refused to give me finding the fact and conclusions of law regarding it was the action to quiet title.
[01:40:12.420 --> 01:40:19.420]  If the judge is still in office, the clock didn't start running.
[01:40:19.420 --> 01:40:25.420]  The clock doesn't start to run until he gets out of office.
[01:40:25.420 --> 01:40:31.420]  That was that was a case out of Chicago, a judge corrupt for 20 years.
[01:40:31.420 --> 01:40:33.420]  The feds come after him.
[01:40:33.420 --> 01:40:37.420]  I'm keeping you know the name of the case if I could think of it.
[01:40:37.420 --> 01:40:50.420]  And he complained statute of limitations and said no, as long as you're in office, you're in a position to protect yourself from the natural consequences of your bad behavior.
[01:40:50.420 --> 01:40:55.420]  So the clock doesn't start until you get out of that position.
[01:40:55.420 --> 01:40:57.420]  Yeah, that judge is off the bench now.
[01:40:57.420 --> 01:41:00.420]  He's retired.
[01:41:00.420 --> 01:41:01.420]  I'm against him anyway.
[01:41:01.420 --> 01:41:04.420]  Let him argue statute of limitations.
[01:41:04.420 --> 01:41:05.420]  Okay.
[01:41:05.420 --> 01:41:06.420]  All right.
[01:41:06.420 --> 01:41:08.420]  Well, I can, you know what?
[01:41:08.420 --> 01:41:14.420]  I'll send you what I got and then I'll ask you for that case.
[01:41:14.420 --> 01:41:20.420]  Well, okay, between now and next week, think about all of the crimes they committed.
[01:41:20.420 --> 01:41:26.420]  And like I was talking to Chris earlier, put together a story.
[01:41:26.420 --> 01:41:39.420]  This story that you're telling has been told so many times that is the it's beginning to build momentum in the public sphere and in the courts.
[01:41:39.420 --> 01:41:44.420]  They're going to want somebody to throw under the bus.
[01:41:44.420 --> 01:41:49.420]  See if you give them this lawyer.
[01:41:49.420 --> 01:41:51.420]  Okay.
[01:41:51.420 --> 01:41:52.420]  I'll do it.
[01:41:52.420 --> 01:41:57.420]  Bring him into the Fed on a recall and see how that works for him.
[01:41:57.420 --> 01:41:58.420]  Okay.
[01:41:58.420 --> 01:41:59.420]  All right.
[01:41:59.420 --> 01:42:01.420]  Well, I'll send you our complaint with the short.
[01:42:01.420 --> 01:42:07.420]  I won't send any of the exhibits and I'll send you their little stuff and then and I'll ask you about plaintiff and all that stuff.
[01:42:07.420 --> 01:42:09.420]  Just so we're clear about what's going on.
[01:42:09.420 --> 01:42:10.420]  I think it, I don't know.
[01:42:10.420 --> 01:42:12.420]  It just feels like a rat trap.
[01:42:12.420 --> 01:42:16.420]  But yeah, you can get a lot of documentation.
[01:42:16.420 --> 01:42:22.420]  Look at the case if you can figure out how this Fannie Mae got in there.
[01:42:22.420 --> 01:42:23.420]  You didn't sue Fannie Mae.
[01:42:23.420 --> 01:42:26.420]  What the heck are they doing in your case?
[01:42:26.420 --> 01:42:27.420]  Well, I did.
[01:42:27.420 --> 01:42:33.420]  We did name Fannie Mae to our case because Fannie Mae claims that they're holding the.
[01:42:33.420 --> 01:42:34.420]  It's not title.
[01:42:34.420 --> 01:42:35.420]  What do they call it?
[01:42:35.420 --> 01:42:40.420]  So the servicer foreclosed and then assigns their women.
[01:42:40.420 --> 01:42:42.420]  You're the, you're the plaintiff.
[01:42:42.420 --> 01:42:45.420]  Who cares what Fannie Mae claims?
[01:42:45.420 --> 01:42:48.420]  Did you sue Fannie Mae?
[01:42:48.420 --> 01:42:49.420]  Yeah.
[01:42:49.420 --> 01:42:50.420]  Oh, okay.
[01:42:50.420 --> 01:42:52.420]  That's how they get in your case.
[01:42:52.420 --> 01:42:53.420]  So they countersuit.
[01:42:53.420 --> 01:42:55.420]  That's how they get.
[01:42:55.420 --> 01:42:58.420]  Yeah, they filed the other and then they combined them.
[01:42:58.420 --> 01:42:59.420]  Okay.
[01:42:59.420 --> 01:43:02.420]  Now you're not, you're not a plaintiff.
[01:43:02.420 --> 01:43:03.420]  I mean, you're not a defendant.
[01:43:03.420 --> 01:43:06.420]  You're a counter defendant.
[01:43:06.420 --> 01:43:07.420]  Okay.
[01:43:07.420 --> 01:43:08.420]  Okay.
[01:43:08.420 --> 01:43:11.420]  Because you were, you were countersued by, okay, that's how they get in.
[01:43:11.420 --> 01:43:13.420]  They don't need intervention then.
[01:43:13.420 --> 01:43:14.420]  Okay.
[01:43:14.420 --> 01:43:16.420]  Okay.
[01:43:16.420 --> 01:43:24.420]  But still, if the, if the sentient limitation is the challenge that, that lien are over,
[01:43:24.420 --> 01:43:30.420]  then this is over, except for getting a justice system and then getting them to pay.
[01:43:30.420 --> 01:43:31.420]  Okay.
[01:43:31.420 --> 01:43:36.420]  If we're about to go to break the call back next week, Francis, it's been too long.
[01:43:36.420 --> 01:43:37.420]  Okay.
[01:43:37.420 --> 01:43:38.420]  I will.
[01:43:38.420 --> 01:43:39.420]  I will.
[01:43:39.420 --> 01:43:40.420]  Thank you.
[01:43:40.420 --> 01:43:41.420]  Okay.
[01:43:41.420 --> 01:43:42.420]  Thank you.
[01:43:42.420 --> 01:43:43.420]  We will be right back.
[01:43:43.420 --> 01:43:50.420]  This is Randy Kelton, rule of law radio on this Friday, the eighth day of November,
[01:43:50.420 --> 01:43:51.420]  2019.
[01:43:51.420 --> 01:43:57.420]  We'll be back for the last segment and John, we will pick you up when we come back.
[01:43:57.420 --> 01:44:00.420]  We'll be right back.
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[01:46:14.420 --> 01:46:21.420]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, rule of law radio, and we're going to John in New York.
[01:46:21.420 --> 01:46:24.420]  Hello, John, are you still awake?
[01:46:24.420 --> 01:46:26.420]  Is that me?
[01:46:26.420 --> 01:46:29.420]  Yes, that's you.
[01:46:29.420 --> 01:46:36.420]  John claims that is his computer, but I think he's just old and nods off sometimes.
[01:46:36.420 --> 01:46:38.420]  Well, you're that right.
[01:46:38.420 --> 01:46:48.420]  I got up once, danced at the door, another time a kitty called, and in a traffic accident in Village Court,
[01:46:48.420 --> 01:46:54.420]  the judge didn't bother to swear anybody in for about five minutes.
[01:46:54.420 --> 01:47:03.420]  In that first five minutes before the judge spurned them all in, the witness to the prosecution committed perjury.
[01:47:03.420 --> 01:47:09.420]  Is it still perjury if the witness for the prosecution wasn't sworn in yet?
[01:47:09.420 --> 01:47:11.420]  Yes.
[01:47:11.420 --> 01:47:13.420]  Say again?
[01:47:13.420 --> 01:47:16.420]  Was he a public official?
[01:47:16.420 --> 01:47:18.420]  Oh, yeah.
[01:47:18.420 --> 01:47:22.420]  Then his statements are presumed to be under oath, yes.
[01:47:22.420 --> 01:47:32.420]  Okay, so if it's a tap or if it's, well, yeah, if it's a tap, then he's a public official.
[01:47:32.420 --> 01:47:34.420]  Yes.
[01:47:34.420 --> 01:47:37.420]  Well, anyway, you charged perjury anyway.
[01:47:37.420 --> 01:47:43.420]  Let him argue that he wasn't sworn in and see what a jury thinks of that.
[01:47:43.420 --> 01:47:47.420]  Oh, yeah, and that's a good point.
[01:47:47.420 --> 01:47:49.420]  That's a real good point.
[01:47:49.420 --> 01:47:55.420]  When it gets to the jury, they pretty well do what they want to.
[01:47:55.420 --> 01:48:08.420]  Thomas Jefferson said the ultimate remedy to bad law is a jury where a jury refuses to enforce bad law,
[01:48:08.420 --> 01:48:12.420]  the legislature will have to change it.
[01:48:12.420 --> 01:48:16.420]  That says that the jury can rule on their conscience.
[01:48:16.420 --> 01:48:19.420]  They don't have to rule on the law.
[01:48:19.420 --> 01:48:20.420]  Right.
[01:48:20.420 --> 01:48:29.420]  Now the judge can tell them what the law is, but they can tell the judge to take that law and cram it and rule what they want to.
[01:48:29.420 --> 01:48:34.420]  So that's the problem these guys have.
[01:48:34.420 --> 01:48:42.420]  They didn't have to go to the court and say, well, get the court to rule that the grand jury didn't have that power.
[01:48:42.420 --> 01:48:48.420]  The grand jury doesn't have the power to indict where the law doesn't allow indictment,
[01:48:48.420 --> 01:48:55.420]  but they do have the power to not indict where the law would allow indictment.
[01:48:55.420 --> 01:49:01.420]  I want to make sure I get that structured correctly.
[01:49:01.420 --> 01:49:06.420]  Okay. So yes, file against him, let him explain it.
[01:49:06.420 --> 01:49:12.420]  But he's not going to have to explain it because whoever you file it with is not going to accept it.
[01:49:12.420 --> 01:49:17.420]  And when they don't accept it and act on it, that one's dead bang.
[01:49:17.420 --> 01:49:20.420]  So it doesn't matter if your first complaint was sufficient or not.
[01:49:20.420 --> 01:49:24.420]  It's the second one that you get.
[01:49:24.420 --> 01:49:27.420]  What do you mean by that?
[01:49:27.420 --> 01:49:34.420]  You walk them up to, you know, never ask public officials to do anything you actually want him to do.
[01:49:34.420 --> 01:49:43.420]  So when you take a criminal complaint to a policeman or a prosecutor or a judge,
[01:49:43.420 --> 01:49:51.420]  you really don't want them to accept the complaint because you want to be able to hammer them.
[01:49:51.420 --> 01:49:53.420]  Right, right.
[01:49:53.420 --> 01:50:00.420]  What the policeman did may or not be something you can adjudicate and you don't care.
[01:50:00.420 --> 01:50:06.420]  You're accusing a partner's hair on the left and let the prosecutor say,
[01:50:06.420 --> 01:50:07.420]  well, that's not a crime.
[01:50:07.420 --> 01:50:08.420]  I'm not going to accept it.
[01:50:08.420 --> 01:50:10.420]  Yeah, okay, that worked.
[01:50:10.420 --> 01:50:16.420]  You are not a judicial officer, not a determination you get to make.
[01:50:16.420 --> 01:50:20.420]  You have exerted or purported to exert an authority you did not expressly have.
[01:50:20.420 --> 01:50:26.420]  And in the process, denied meaningful and free access to a governmental right, let's dance.
[01:50:26.420 --> 01:50:31.420]  Then you create a lot of politics.
[01:50:31.420 --> 01:50:38.420]  You file against the prosecutor with someone else who refused to take it, preferably preferably a district judge.
[01:50:38.420 --> 01:50:46.420]  And when the district judge refuses to take it, you file against him with the state attorney general.
[01:50:46.420 --> 01:50:52.420]  And then the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.
[01:50:52.420 --> 01:51:05.420]  And then when the Chief Justice refuses to take it, you come back down to a local magistrate and file against him again with the local magistrate against the Chief Justice of the Supreme with the local magistrate.
[01:51:05.420 --> 01:51:07.420]  Start this all over again.
[01:51:07.420 --> 01:51:09.420]  Just have great fun with it.
[01:51:09.420 --> 01:51:14.420]  Put dirty black marks all over their political careers.
[01:51:14.420 --> 01:51:16.420]  Let them deal with it.
[01:51:16.420 --> 01:51:30.420]  If we're going to fix it, don't expect public officials to say, oh my goodness, you said just the right word in just the right inflection.
[01:51:30.420 --> 01:51:34.420]  We're going to hop right to this and do what we're supposed to.
[01:51:34.420 --> 01:51:36.420]  Good luck with that.
[01:51:36.420 --> 01:51:52.420]  But all these years, I've had all these people coming over here and saying, if you do this thing this way and say these magic words, the judge will know exactly this really exotic, crazy thing that you're referring to.
[01:51:52.420 --> 01:51:58.420]  And he will just jump through hoops to give you what you want.
[01:51:58.420 --> 01:52:02.420]  Horseman, horse manure.
[01:52:02.420 --> 01:52:08.420]  These judges don't have sense enough to pour urine out of a boot.
[01:52:08.420 --> 01:52:10.420]  I did not say piss.
[01:52:10.420 --> 01:52:14.420]  I can't see that on here so I can see urine.
[01:52:14.420 --> 01:52:16.420]  It's just they don't know.
[01:52:16.420 --> 01:52:20.420]  They just do what they've been trained to do.
[01:52:20.420 --> 01:52:24.420]  Police just do what they've been trained to do.
[01:52:24.420 --> 01:52:30.420]  The last thing, I was at a court the other day and a bailiff told me, you can't do that.
[01:52:30.420 --> 01:52:32.420]  I said, wait a minute, wait a minute.
[01:52:32.420 --> 01:52:38.420]  Are you really pretending to give me legal advice?
[01:52:38.420 --> 01:52:44.420]  The kids in the high school parking lot know more about law than you guys do.
[01:52:44.420 --> 01:52:45.420]  You don't know any law.
[01:52:45.420 --> 01:52:48.420]  He has no policy.
[01:52:48.420 --> 01:52:53.420]  And the bailiff said, well, let's not very sociable.
[01:52:53.420 --> 01:52:54.420]  This is a county I live in.
[01:52:54.420 --> 01:52:56.420]  I mess with them all the time.
[01:52:56.420 --> 01:52:57.420]  But that's the fact.
[01:52:57.420 --> 01:52:59.420]  They don't know law.
[01:52:59.420 --> 01:53:01.420]  The judges know what they do.
[01:53:01.420 --> 01:53:05.420]  These lower level judges, they don't have a clue.
[01:53:05.420 --> 01:53:11.420]  These mid-range and higher level judges, they know.
[01:53:11.420 --> 01:53:16.420]  And when they act improperly, they know darn well they're acting improperly.
[01:53:16.420 --> 01:53:18.420]  So stay on for it.
[01:53:18.420 --> 01:53:22.420]  That's exactly what happened with this case.
[01:53:22.420 --> 01:53:24.420]  But I'll tell you more about that later.
[01:53:24.420 --> 01:53:31.420]  The judge is under scrutiny and all of a sudden there was a little bit of a row
[01:53:31.420 --> 01:53:35.420]  because there was somebody in court keeping their eye on him.
[01:53:35.420 --> 01:53:40.420]  And I said to my relative, are they ever going to throw him out?
[01:53:40.420 --> 01:53:48.420]  And the relative said, it's my understanding that the case is still under investigation
[01:53:48.420 --> 01:53:50.420]  and the fat lady ain't hung yet.
[01:53:50.420 --> 01:53:53.420]  So we're just waiting for the other...
[01:53:53.420 --> 01:53:58.420]  Somebody needs to be down there rattling gauges.
[01:53:58.420 --> 01:54:03.420]  They think that over time things just smooth over.
[01:54:03.420 --> 01:54:09.420]  So go sit in the court and watch the judge screw somebody else and file against him for that.
[01:54:09.420 --> 01:54:11.420]  Can you do that?
[01:54:11.420 --> 01:54:13.420]  Of course you can.
[01:54:13.420 --> 01:54:16.420]  So in other words, I was a witness to the whole thing.
[01:54:16.420 --> 01:54:18.420]  I could file against him.
[01:54:18.420 --> 01:54:20.420]  Absolutely.
[01:54:20.420 --> 01:54:25.420]  If you file, you don't have a dog in the hide.
[01:54:25.420 --> 01:54:29.420]  I'm about to sue the SEC.
[01:54:29.420 --> 01:54:32.420]  And it's perfect because I don't have a dog in the hide.
[01:54:32.420 --> 01:54:35.420]  I don't care what they do.
[01:54:35.420 --> 01:54:38.420]  I don't have any securities, I haven't sold it in.
[01:54:38.420 --> 01:54:40.420]  Don't think I'm going to.
[01:54:40.420 --> 01:54:44.420]  I'm just going to go pick a fight with them.
[01:54:44.420 --> 01:54:48.420]  How do they deal with somebody who just comes and picks a fight?
[01:54:48.420 --> 01:54:51.420]  John, you go down there and watch this judge.
[01:54:51.420 --> 01:54:54.420]  You see him do something you think is improper.
[01:54:54.420 --> 01:54:57.420]  Go file a complaint against him and watch what happens.
[01:54:57.420 --> 01:55:02.420]  They start hopping up and down, but they can't do anything to you.
[01:55:02.420 --> 01:55:06.420]  They got no leverage whatsoever.
[01:55:06.420 --> 01:55:13.420]  If they say one thing that you can in any way construe as a threat.
[01:55:13.420 --> 01:55:18.420]  9-1-1, that's witness tampering.
[01:55:18.420 --> 01:55:22.420]  That gets to be a really big deal really fast.
[01:55:22.420 --> 01:55:27.420]  You should have seen this policeman who told me I couldn't have this open plane
[01:55:27.420 --> 01:55:30.420]  because we had a fire ban on.
[01:55:30.420 --> 01:55:34.420]  What the policeman didn't know is the county could issue a fire ban,
[01:55:34.420 --> 01:55:36.420]  but they could not enforce it.
[01:55:36.420 --> 01:55:40.420]  So anyway, I jerk him around a little.
[01:55:40.420 --> 01:55:44.420]  I said, you're just joking, right? Oh, no, no, Lucera, I'm not joking.
[01:55:44.420 --> 01:55:46.420]  Wait a minute, wait a minute.
[01:55:46.420 --> 01:55:53.420]  That John Faustel, the district judge, sent you down here to harass me, didn't he?
[01:55:53.420 --> 01:55:57.420]  Just because I filed one little criminal complaint against him with the attorney general,
[01:55:57.420 --> 01:56:01.420]  he sent you down here to harass me, didn't he?
[01:56:01.420 --> 01:56:07.420]  The policeman holds up both hands with his palms out, takes a step back and said,
[01:56:07.420 --> 01:56:13.420]  one moment, Mr. Kalkin, takes out his cell phone, dials it, talks into it a minute.
[01:56:13.420 --> 01:56:18.420]  About 30 seconds later, the chief of police stuck his head out of the city hall door.
[01:56:18.420 --> 01:56:20.420]  I live right next to the city hall.
[01:56:20.420 --> 01:56:23.420]  Randy, what are you doing to my new officer?
[01:56:23.420 --> 01:56:28.420]  Oh, Tom, I was just jerking his chain.
[01:56:28.420 --> 01:56:36.420]  And this policeman said, oh, God, I saw my whole career pass before my eyes.
[01:56:36.420 --> 01:56:42.420]  So you want to file against this judge with a higher judge.
[01:56:42.420 --> 01:56:47.420]  And then when that higher judge doesn't act on your complaint, you file with another,
[01:56:47.420 --> 01:56:50.420]  the highest judge you can find.
[01:56:50.420 --> 01:56:59.420]  And then if anybody says anything to you, you can in any way construe as a threat,
[01:56:59.420 --> 01:57:04.420]  and they will do it in the form of fatherly legal advice.
[01:57:04.420 --> 01:57:06.420]  They're just trying to be helpful.
[01:57:06.420 --> 01:57:13.420]  You accuse the highest level judge you can, ascending that guy out to threaten you.
[01:57:13.420 --> 01:57:22.420]  What do you think that judge is going to do when you accuse him of witness tampering and conspiracy?
[01:57:22.420 --> 01:57:30.420]  He is going to go ballistic, but not on you, on this officer.
[01:57:30.420 --> 01:57:31.420]  Yeah.
[01:57:31.420 --> 01:57:33.420]  This is how we fix it.
[01:57:33.420 --> 01:57:39.420]  And, John, I can tell you from experience, this is so much fun.
[01:57:39.420 --> 01:57:41.420]  You won't believe it.
[01:57:41.420 --> 01:57:44.420]  That officer, I did that too.
[01:57:44.420 --> 01:57:48.420]  Every time he saw me, he weighed, oh, hi, Mr. Kelton.
[01:57:48.420 --> 01:57:51.420]  How are things going, Mr. Kelton?
[01:57:51.420 --> 01:57:54.420]  I could have just robbed the bank.
[01:57:54.420 --> 01:58:00.420]  Oh, hi, how's it going, Mr. Kelton?
[01:58:00.420 --> 01:58:02.420]  Well, that's exactly what happened.
[01:58:02.420 --> 01:58:07.420]  You know the story when we're just waiting for all the other shoes to drop.
[01:58:07.420 --> 01:58:09.420]  This is perfect.
[01:58:09.420 --> 01:58:12.420]  You've got him on the dime now.
[01:58:12.420 --> 01:58:14.420]  You know, I've got this philosophy.
[01:58:14.420 --> 01:58:18.420]  If you've got your opponent on the ropes, and he's laying back with his arms across the top rope,
[01:58:18.420 --> 01:58:22.420]  and his legs sprouted out, and he can't get up, what do you do?
[01:58:22.420 --> 01:58:25.420]  You kick him in the crotch.
[01:58:25.420 --> 01:58:26.420]  No quarter.
[01:58:26.420 --> 01:58:27.420]  You kick him again.
[01:58:27.420 --> 01:58:28.420]  Yeah.
[01:58:28.420 --> 01:58:32.420]  Well, don't let the judge get up. You got him hammering good.
[01:58:32.420 --> 01:58:34.420]  We are out of time.
[01:58:34.420 --> 01:58:35.420]  Thank you, John.
[01:58:35.420 --> 01:58:37.420]  Shane, I'm sorry we didn't get to you.
[01:58:37.420 --> 01:58:41.420]  We will be back next week, Thursday on our regular show,
[01:58:41.420 --> 01:58:45.420]  and check out Eddie Craig on Monday nights at eight on his traffic show.
[01:58:45.420 --> 01:58:50.420]  Thank you all for listening, and good night.
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