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[00:46.240 --> 00:52.440]  In history, the year 1916, the preparedness day bombing, a tying suitcase bomb, was detonated
[00:52.440 --> 00:57.760]  on Market Street in San Francisco during the World War I preparedness day parade, killing
[00:57.760 --> 01:04.760]  10 and injuring 40 today in history.
[01:04.760 --> 01:09.440]  And recent news, since Governor Greg Abbott signed House Bill 1325 legalizing hemp into
[01:09.440 --> 01:14.080]  taxes law back in June, county prosecutors around the state, including Houston, Austin
[01:14.080 --> 01:18.080]  and San Antonio, have been dropping marijuana possession charges and even refusing to file
[01:18.080 --> 01:22.280]  new ones, since they are stipulating that they do not have the time or the laboratory
[01:22.280 --> 01:24.840]  equipment to test the herb for THC.
[01:24.840 --> 01:28.440]  Margaret Moore, the Travis County District Attorney, announced earlier this month that
[01:28.440 --> 01:33.040]  she was dismissing 32 felony possession and delivery of marijuana cases because of the
[01:33.040 --> 01:34.040]  law.
[01:34.040 --> 01:37.600]  Mr. Abbott and other state officials, including the Attorney General, stipulated in a letter
[01:37.600 --> 01:42.120]  to county district attorneys back on Thursday that marijuana has not been decriminalized
[01:42.120 --> 01:48.280]  in Texas and that these actions demonstrate a misunderstanding of how HB 1325 works, as
[01:48.280 --> 01:54.520]  well as other cities, too, like the District Attorney in El Paso, Cayma Esparza, a Democrat
[01:54.520 --> 01:59.000]  who also stated earlier this month that the law, quote, will not have an effect on the
[01:59.000 --> 02:01.720]  prosecution of marijuana cases in El Paso.
[02:01.720 --> 02:06.800]  However, the issue was succinctly summarized by Mr. Brandon Ball, an assistant public defender
[02:06.800 --> 02:10.800]  in Harris County, who stated that, quote, the law is constantly changing on what makes
[02:10.800 --> 02:13.520]  something illegal based on its chemical makeup.
[02:13.520 --> 02:17.400]  It's important that if someone is charged with something, the test matches what they're
[02:17.400 --> 02:22.600]  charged with.
[02:22.600 --> 02:27.440]  A paper by Tulane University identified a five and a half inch American pocket shark.
[02:27.440 --> 02:32.360]  As the first of its kind in the Gulf of Mexico, the specimen being only the second pocket
[02:32.360 --> 02:38.000]  shark ever captured or recorded with the other one being found way back in 1979 in the East
[02:38.000 --> 02:39.480]  Pacific Ocean.
[02:39.480 --> 02:43.800]  According to the university paper, the shark secretes a luminous fluid from a gland near
[02:43.800 --> 02:50.080]  its front fins for the purpose it is hypothesized to lure and prey who may be drawn into the
[02:50.080 --> 03:16.920]  glow.
[03:16.920 --> 03:45.440]  Okay, we are back.
[03:45.440 --> 04:14.240]  Thank you.
[04:14.240 --> 04:20.240]  All right, well, I thought I did a minute ago, but it long enough now it's kind of left me, so I guess not right now.
[04:20.240 --> 04:25.240]  As you get older, Danny, trust me, that's going to get worse.
[04:25.240 --> 04:32.240]  All right, well part of it, you're with the criminal complaints.
[04:32.240 --> 04:41.240]  I think a big part of what we would need is like at the registration point for people being given a notice of what it means for a vehicle,
[04:41.240 --> 04:55.240]  because part of fraud is to let someone continue with a misconception of fact or law that they might act differently if they had it straightened out.
[04:55.240 --> 05:07.240]  So that the county clerks or whoever, if they were giving out a notice of what is actually required to be registered, that might make a difference.
[05:07.240 --> 05:18.240]  Because there is no real requirement for a car to be registered only when you're registering for vehicles, so it defines this that you intend to use that way.
[05:18.240 --> 05:39.240]  Well, if the definition of vehicle is anything used to transport persons or property on a highway, then a car is already defined as a vehicle. What is, what notice is to be given?
[05:39.240 --> 05:48.240]  No, no, a car is not necessarily a vehicle unless you're hiring it out to transport someone.
[05:48.240 --> 06:02.240]  That's not what the definition said. It said something that can be used. It didn't say it had to, and that was why there was a distinction here in Tennessee.
[06:02.240 --> 06:05.240]  No, it says it may be used.
[06:05.240 --> 06:17.240]  Yeah, so it doesn't mean it is being used. When it uses the term vehicle, that doesn't state the fact that it is being used in commerce,
[06:17.240 --> 06:25.240]  merely that it is a piece of equipment that can be used in commerce. So I wouldn't have the objection.
[06:25.240 --> 06:27.240]  Randall, no.
[06:27.240 --> 06:29.240]  Go ahead, David.
[06:29.240 --> 06:41.240]  Randall, just to restate what we read a moment ago with Danny in the Tennessee Code, it says any device in upon or by which any person or property is or may be.
[06:41.240 --> 06:48.240]  So it is in the fact, in the fact of particular case, it is or is not or may be.
[06:48.240 --> 06:59.240]  So I think the position that I'm thinking of here in Tennessee, which may be useful elsewhere, is that if you have, and this is what Eddie Craig's position seems to be like,
[06:59.240 --> 07:06.240]  you have a tag on your car, not because you are always in transportation, but that you may be if you want.
[07:06.240 --> 07:14.240]  Your tag makes your car, your car has been converted into a state product, a state object, a motor vehicle.
[07:14.240 --> 07:22.240]  And you do that because for good reason. You may want to be hired out to carry goods or people for hire.
[07:22.240 --> 07:29.240]  So your car is commerce ready, but a particular traffic stop, especially if you're like me and I never do commerce,
[07:29.240 --> 07:33.240]  a particular traffic stop will generate a no answer.
[07:33.240 --> 07:46.240]  No, I'm not involved in commerce. No, I'm not operating more people. No, I'm not driving right now, sir. I object. I object. This is incorrect statement of the nature of this legal relationship.
[07:46.240 --> 07:51.240]  No, I'm not driving. I'm actually just traveling and I make no statement. You know, I'm traveling under my notice.
[07:51.240 --> 07:56.240]  So in that kind of encounter, I was in Austin.
[07:56.240 --> 08:06.240]  I was pulled over in Austin and the officer asked me if I had a driver's license and I said, yes, I do, but I'm not using it right now.
[08:06.240 --> 08:14.240]  And he said, are you one of those guys? And I said, yes, I am. He said, get out of here.
[08:14.240 --> 08:24.240]  He had been in that fight and he didn't want to have it again. So if you want to indicate that, you know, I have a license and when I'm asked for the license, I give it to them.
[08:24.240 --> 08:31.240]  Because I signed this contract and said I would.
[08:31.240 --> 08:36.240]  Well, what if you're not using it as a modifier?
[08:36.240 --> 08:47.240]  Well, that's the question for the licensee, though, who sometimes may be involved in transportation, but other times, maybe a majority of the time, is not.
[08:47.240 --> 08:56.240]  Can you use his car, which has been converted by his earlier act into a motor vehicle, can you use his car privately as a car?
[08:56.240 --> 09:00.240]  I guess that's the question Danny is asking.
[09:00.240 --> 09:03.240]  Danny?
[09:03.240 --> 09:12.240]  Yeah, well, no, my thought is that since it's a license, it's a vehicle by the definition, not how you're actually using it at the time.
[09:12.240 --> 09:15.240]  It is because it's the license to be used.
[09:15.240 --> 09:26.240]  Okay, I think our real question here was, in Tennessee, does vehicle necessarily mean commerce?
[09:26.240 --> 09:34.240]  And the way I learned the definition may be used doesn't mean it's necessarily in commerce.
[09:34.240 --> 09:46.240]  So I wouldn't have to object to the use of vehicle because it does not state a fact, not in evidence.
[09:46.240 --> 09:48.240]  It depends on the use, okay?
[09:48.240 --> 09:55.240]  It is the use which determines the legal status of that car and the occupant at the time of the encounter.
[09:55.240 --> 10:07.240]  The encounter came because a cop flashes lights alleging an infraction under the transportation code, something to speeding or touching the line or didn't use an indicator.
[10:07.240 --> 10:09.240]  These are all infractions.
[10:09.240 --> 10:16.240]  Is the car being used in that encounter for commercial purposes or is it being used privately?
[10:16.240 --> 10:29.240]  My thinking is this, that a car is licenseable and regulable if the activity in it is of such a kind as to fall under the police power, which again is commercial.
[10:29.240 --> 10:41.240]  However, the same car slash motor vehicle, rental, could be used privately, going to church, going to grocery store, checking on grandma, taking the kids to the pool,
[10:41.240 --> 10:46.240]  and route to another part of the state on vacation.
[10:46.240 --> 10:51.240]  In that instance, the car, which is commerce ready routinely because it has a tag, is not being used that way.
[10:51.240 --> 10:58.240]  So one can say, I'm not using the car for that purpose.
[10:58.240 --> 11:05.240]  I'm not involved in transportation and therefore I'm not subject to your police power.
[11:05.240 --> 11:12.240]  What is your probable cause? Do you have a warrant for my arrest? Do you have a warrant to service my car? Because I'm not saying anything else.
[11:12.240 --> 11:15.240]  I'm not your subject at this point.
[11:15.240 --> 11:16.240]  Yeah, I like that.
[11:16.240 --> 11:17.240]  That's my suggestion.
[11:17.240 --> 11:19.240]  That way of addressing.
[11:19.240 --> 11:24.240]  I'm concerned when people challenge the police.
[11:24.240 --> 11:32.240]  But when they give them information that will serve them when they get to court.
[11:32.240 --> 11:39.240]  You know, I've asked just recently, I asked a bailiff to arrest a clerk.
[11:39.240 --> 11:42.240]  And he said, well, I'm not going to arrest a clerk.
[11:42.240 --> 11:44.240]  I said, oh, okay.
[11:44.240 --> 11:50.240]  I had to ask you had to refuse a problem solved.
[11:50.240 --> 11:54.240]  The officer asks for your license.
[11:54.240 --> 11:58.240]  I tell him, yeah, I got one, but I'm not using it right now.
[11:58.240 --> 12:00.240]  So I told him I'm not in commerce.
[12:00.240 --> 12:03.240]  Now they're going to ignore that.
[12:03.240 --> 12:07.240]  But when you get to court, you can use it.
[12:07.240 --> 12:14.240]  I generally suggest that people not bring these issues with the policeman on the street.
[12:14.240 --> 12:17.240]  Bushwax so much better.
[12:17.240 --> 12:21.240]  If the policeman knows you're going to argue these things, he's going to be ready for you.
[12:21.240 --> 12:29.240]  And he's likely to write in his report arguments that prepare the court for you.
[12:29.240 --> 12:35.240]  I hate to give him free advice and hate to give him fair notice.
[12:35.240 --> 12:37.240]  Bushwax much better.
[12:37.240 --> 12:39.240]  But back to Danny.
[12:39.240 --> 12:43.240]  I think we've kind of beat that horse.
[12:43.240 --> 12:50.240]  In some states, like in Texas, if they say vehicle, that means commerce.
[12:50.240 --> 12:56.240]  In Tennessee, it doesn't necessarily mean commerce.
[12:56.240 --> 12:59.240]  Okay, I have a caller I don't recognize.
[12:59.240 --> 13:01.240]  I think this may be a new caller.
[13:01.240 --> 13:02.240]  Thank you, Danny.
[13:02.240 --> 13:06.240]  I'm going to go to Jason in Georgia.
[13:06.240 --> 13:13.240]  Jason, are you a new first-time caller?
[13:13.240 --> 13:14.240]  Hello, Jason.
[13:14.240 --> 13:16.240]  Are you there?
[13:16.240 --> 13:19.240]  I am not a new time, a first-time caller.
[13:19.240 --> 13:27.240]  I've called in since around 05, but I was very interested tonight to see that you've got David on the show.
[13:27.240 --> 13:33.240]  I'm in North Georgia, and I'm familiar with David, and I didn't...
[13:33.240 --> 13:38.240]  Did I hear correctly that you're up there with him, Randy, tonight, or are you just...
[13:38.240 --> 13:40.240]  Is he a special guest tonight?
[13:40.240 --> 13:42.240]  I'm up here with David.
[13:42.240 --> 13:48.240]  We're transmitting from David's place, and I'll be here until tomorrow.
[13:48.240 --> 13:50.240]  In Saudi, Daisy.
[13:50.240 --> 13:51.240]  Great.
[13:51.240 --> 13:54.240]  North County.
[13:54.240 --> 14:04.240]  Well, I'm down on Lake Lanier in about, I'd say, an hour and a half from you if you know where Lake Lanier is in North Georgia.
[14:04.240 --> 14:05.240]  I don't.
[14:05.240 --> 14:07.240]  David, are you there, David?
[14:07.240 --> 14:08.240]  More or less.
[14:08.240 --> 14:09.240]  I know where it is.
[14:09.240 --> 14:10.240]  More or less.
[14:10.240 --> 14:11.240]  Yeah, yeah.
[14:11.240 --> 14:13.240]  I'm just south of Dalton.
[14:13.240 --> 14:15.240]  I'm about 45 minutes south of Dalton.
[14:15.240 --> 14:25.240]  Anyway, I just wanted to call in and say that I really enjoy Randy's show, Rule of Law, and I'm glad to see that you're linking up with David,
[14:25.240 --> 14:36.240]  because I've followed David quite a bit myself, so just wanted to call in and say thanks for all the info and the work, guys.
[14:36.240 --> 14:39.240]  Well, thank you, Jason.
[14:39.240 --> 14:42.240]  You need to find us a really hard question to answer.
[14:42.240 --> 14:46.240]  Well, let me ask a favor, Randall, could I ask Jason a favor?
[14:46.240 --> 14:48.240]  Sure.
[14:48.240 --> 14:55.240]  Jason, I don't know Georgia Law, and I actually don't like going to Georgia because I don't know the law.
[14:55.240 --> 15:02.240]  I just hate going there, even if I can save money by going to the cost code and having lower sales taxes.
[15:02.240 --> 15:10.240]  The reason I just don't know the law, but you know, you seem to care about these things, and my work here is really intended to be a model
[15:10.240 --> 15:18.240]  where people take the time to do as either just go through the code, get a hard copy, or no copy, and I'm sure it's online,
[15:18.240 --> 15:26.240]  and make a notice like I did, and then you can put your local constabulary on notice.
[15:26.240 --> 15:33.240]  Well, just by the way, Randall, I heard a great phrase in a court case I was reading two days ago, and it's this.
[15:33.240 --> 15:40.240]  It's called constabulary latitude and erinism. Constabulary latitude and erinism.
[15:40.240 --> 15:46.240]  You know, the cops, they give themselves a lot of latitude, and they give us none.
[15:46.240 --> 15:56.240]  They take pretended laws and bind us to every letter, as it were, and yet they let them feel freely convoyed about throwing their weight around
[15:56.240 --> 16:05.240]  their armored plates and their tasers and their gas pellets and their pistols to do whatever they want, so they're easy going.
[16:05.240 --> 16:11.240]  Jason, you can do a notice too. This is a project which is the kind of template for people who care about this issue,
[16:11.240 --> 16:21.240]  and my hope is to make my home city a sanctuary city that people around the country come here with revoked licenses,
[16:21.240 --> 16:27.240]  extended licenses, and none, and they know that if you're on the road in my city or in my county, they will not be stopped,
[16:27.240 --> 16:35.240]  because they're doing nothing wrong. They're heartlessly using the free public right away in a sanctuary city that even people on the right,
[16:35.240 --> 16:38.240]  even Republicans, could love.
[16:38.240 --> 16:46.240]  Yes, I would be interested in doing that here. I just need to go through Georgia's motor vehicle code as well, but I will.
[16:46.240 --> 16:52.240]  Hang on. We'll be right back.
[16:52.240 --> 17:18.240]  I'm trying to get this down, but my tang is getting tangled. We'll be right back.
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[19:51.240 --> 20:06.240]  Our back, Randy Kelton, Rule of Law Radio, here with our special guest, David Tollis, and on the break, we were talking about police.
[20:06.240 --> 20:11.240]  I did make the comment that the police are not to back us.
[20:11.240 --> 20:18.240]  We're not going to fix this at the top. We're going to fix it at the bottom. The police are the ones that can fix it.
[20:18.240 --> 20:21.240]  But they're not going to like it.
[20:21.240 --> 20:26.240]  Now, the police are not the bad guys. I know a lot of policemen.
[20:26.240 --> 20:30.240]  And not one of them became a policeman so he could be object-beated drug.
[20:30.240 --> 20:34.240]  Every one of them, when I ask them, why did you become a policeman?
[20:34.240 --> 20:37.240]  They want to help people. They want to be good guys.
[20:37.240 --> 20:42.240]  Well, what do you think about police work now? Every one of them says they hate it.
[20:42.240 --> 20:49.240]  This is not what I signed up for. But once they committed themselves to this,
[20:49.240 --> 20:55.240]  it takes two or three years for them to get to where they can get out there on their own and actually be a policeman.
[20:55.240 --> 21:00.240]  And by the time they get there, they find out this is not what I thought.
[21:00.240 --> 21:04.240]  I'm not here to help people. And that's what I wanted to do.
[21:04.240 --> 21:17.240]  So for us blaming the police for this problem is just bomb. However, the fix is with the police.
[21:17.240 --> 21:22.240]  And I say this on the show quite a bit.
[21:22.240 --> 21:29.240]  I think of my police like I do my grandkids. I love them dearly.
[21:29.240 --> 21:36.240]  But if one of them runs out on the road, I'm fixing to end his eye. I'm not going to wait until he gets run over.
[21:36.240 --> 21:41.240]  I'm not going to wait until he does something really horrible and awful.
[21:41.240 --> 21:50.240]  I want to get him to make the tiny little mistake, the precursor, just run toward the road.
[21:50.240 --> 21:54.240]  And I'm going to jerk him up and spat his behind.
[21:54.240 --> 21:57.240]  Then we don't have the major problem.
[21:57.240 --> 22:11.240]  If you take a policeman who the chief sends out to write this ticket and you hammer him big time for doing exactly what he was directed to do,
[22:11.240 --> 22:21.240]  you're not going to have a problem with this policeman coming out here and doing something really stupid that'll cost him his license or maybe get him in jail.
[22:21.240 --> 22:27.240]  If you hammer him for something really minor, then he's just going to put him on notice.
[22:27.240 --> 22:38.240]  And if you hammer him for doing what the boss told him to do, he's going to go to the boss and say, hey, what is going on here?
[22:38.240 --> 22:43.240]  I'm doing what you told me to and I'm getting in trouble.
[22:43.240 --> 22:59.240]  Jason, you've been listening to this show. How does this fit with your impression of Georgia police?
[22:59.240 --> 23:13.240]  Well, we need some constraints down here. It's like everywhere in America. I personally have not had any law enforcement contact in a number of years.
[23:13.240 --> 23:35.240]  And it's mainly to do just because I abide by all the traffic regulations, but I see an abuse of power here in this area of America and that's why I am actively listening to any bit of information that I can get my hands on,
[23:35.240 --> 23:41.240]  because I would like to do something like David's doing in Nashville down here.
[23:41.240 --> 23:55.240]  And the problem, the reason why I haven't done it thus far is, you know, I didn't know if there were ever any like-minded people like me doing it in my area or if I would just be the first one that comes in there and tries to pound them.
[23:55.240 --> 24:05.240]  I'm going to make a suggestion, Jason. You got like-minded police.
[24:05.240 --> 24:19.240]  I know a lot of policemen. Not one of them became a policeman so he could be a Jack Booty Thug. They don't believe they can exist until a large degree they're white. They can't.
[24:19.240 --> 24:29.240]  Quick story. I set up a judge in Mansfield, Texas. Jason, have you heard my hearing aid story?
[24:29.240 --> 24:31.240]  No.
[24:31.240 --> 24:42.240]  We went to court. We're helping people stop for closures and a friend of mine, David, had a hearing before mine and I knew this judge had, he was a real stinker.
[24:42.240 --> 24:49.240]  And David went up and sat down at the table and I walked up to the bar and stood there. Finally the judge looked up and said, can I help you?
[24:49.240 --> 24:53.240]  I said, yes, Your Honor. My name is Randy Kelton and I have a hearing deficiency.
[24:53.240 --> 25:03.240]  Well, Mr. Kelton, that's what's wrong with your hearing. Oh, judge, I was down in Mexico though today and I drank too much of that cheap tequila and lost my hearing aid.
[25:03.240 --> 25:06.240]  Well, I was lying. I had it in my pocket.
[25:06.240 --> 25:14.240]  Well, why are you telling me this? I said, do you have a combination for the hearing impaired? Sometimes they have wireless headsets.
[25:14.240 --> 25:16.240]  No, I do not.
[25:16.240 --> 25:20.240]  I said, you have a sound system here. Will you turn it up? No, I will not.
[25:20.240 --> 25:28.240]  Well, then, well, you speak up and he did. Told the bailiff, if I didn't sound shut up, he's just throw me out of the courtroom.
[25:28.240 --> 25:34.240]  So David finished his hearing. I went up for mine. He started the hearing objection.
[25:34.240 --> 25:40.240]  I'm here at arms length to the court. I have a challenge to subject matter jurisdiction before the court.
[25:40.240 --> 25:43.240]  Yes, Mr. Kelton, you just filed that 20 minutes ago.
[25:43.240 --> 25:47.240]  Yes, Your Honor. As a matter of fact, that did. Well, I'm going to deny that.
[25:47.240 --> 25:53.240]  I'm going to deny a petition for a challenge subject matter jurisdiction without even reading it. You've got my order.
[25:53.240 --> 25:58.240]  Yes, I do. We're done here and I closed my folder, went to the bar and pointed at the bailiff.
[25:58.240 --> 26:03.240]  You come with me. I stormed out of the courtroom.
[26:03.240 --> 26:08.240]  Big bailiff, about six foot six, four hundred pounds, just a big bear of a man.
[26:08.240 --> 26:13.240]  We get outside and he said, what can I do for you, Mr. Kelton? I need you to arrest a judge.
[26:13.240 --> 26:20.240]  Well, why would I arrest a judge? Class A, Mr. Miner, official oppression, criminal violation, thirty nine point over three penal code,
[26:20.240 --> 26:28.240]  in that he failed to form a duty he was required to perform and in the process denied me the full and free access to or join the right.
[26:28.240 --> 26:35.240]  Well, Mr. Kelton, what right did he deny you in? He denied me an accommodation under the Americans with Disabilities Act.
[26:35.240 --> 26:42.240]  And the bailiff said, well, Mr. Kelton, why didn't you tell him about the Americans with Disabilities Act?
[26:42.240 --> 26:47.240]  Well, heck, if I'd done that, he might have turned the sound up.
[26:47.240 --> 26:51.240]  The bailiff stood there a minute and this grin come across his face.
[26:51.240 --> 26:57.240]  Well, you set him up. See, yeah, he's a sucker for that. And wouldn't he not? Get in there and arrest him.
[26:57.240 --> 27:02.240]  Why can't he arrest a judge? Look at you big strapping officer. Got that pistol on your hip.
[27:02.240 --> 27:06.240]  You need to take your chicken suit off. I ain't taking my chicken suit off.
[27:06.240 --> 27:11.240]  Two days later, I met a political rally in Fort Worth.
[27:11.240 --> 27:17.240]  I thought I recognized this guy going in the door and I'm in the pavilion and he come up to me.
[27:17.240 --> 27:22.240]  He was running security and then I recognized him. He was that bailiff.
[27:22.240 --> 27:27.240]  He said, Mr. Kelton, do you have a minute? I have some people I'd like you to meet.
[27:27.240 --> 27:30.240]  I said, sure. He took me on the way to this room.
[27:30.240 --> 27:40.240]  He said, these are all bailiffs around the county and they do security at these kinds of gatherings for extra money.
[27:40.240 --> 27:47.240]  We walked in the room and he said, hey, guys, this is a guy I told you about that set up Judge Hayes.
[27:47.240 --> 27:58.240]  These bailiffs came over to me and I could not believe the vitrupude that came out of them over those judges.
[27:58.240 --> 28:06.240]  They hate those judges. That was an education for me.
[28:06.240 --> 28:16.240]  These guys got to stand there in court all day and listen to one person after another, get screwed royal by these arrogant judges.
[28:16.240 --> 28:21.240]  And I'd always thought of the bailiff as part of the problem.
[28:21.240 --> 28:28.240]  They hated it, but didn't feel like they could do anything about it.
[28:28.240 --> 28:34.240]  The police, they want to be the good guys. They're stuck in the system. They did not create.
[28:34.240 --> 28:39.240]  And they can't get themselves out. We need to do that.
[28:39.240 --> 28:42.240]  Okay, we might have to sting them a little bit.
[28:42.240 --> 28:48.240]  And that's why I suggest don't wait until an officer does something really horrible.
[28:48.240 --> 28:55.240]  Cokes him into stepping across a minor legal line and then sting him good.
[28:55.240 --> 29:02.240]  And if he can get stung for a minor little thing, then what's going to happen if he does something really bad?
[29:02.240 --> 29:10.240]  I was just in Georgia or Alabama last week and after this hearing was over, the guy was there to help.
[29:10.240 --> 29:12.240]  I asked to see the file.
[29:12.240 --> 29:16.240]  And the judge said, well, I don't know if you can see that. Of course I can.
[29:16.240 --> 29:20.240]  Public court, everybody has a right to a public court. He has a prosecutor.
[29:20.240 --> 29:26.240]  And the prosecutor said, Mr. Kelton, are you a citizen of the state of Alabama?
[29:26.240 --> 29:32.240]  Oh, no. Well, then, Your Honor, I don't think he can look at that.
[29:32.240 --> 29:37.240]  So I turned to the judge. Well, judge, first I said the prosecutor.
[29:37.240 --> 29:44.240]  So you're saying that the federal right to a public court doesn't apply in here? Oh, wonderful.
[29:44.240 --> 29:48.240]  And, you know, they're looking at me. I'm not unhappy.
[29:48.240 --> 29:55.240]  The judge, I got him to say I couldn't look at it. Now I'm going to file criminal charges against the judge.
[29:55.240 --> 30:02.240]  Minor technical little nothing will be right.
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[35:04.240 --> 35:08.240]  Here with our special guest, David Tolst.
[35:08.240 --> 35:15.240]  And we're talking to Jason in Georgia.
[35:15.240 --> 35:26.240]  On the break, you mentioned about how this notice was intended to save police.
[35:26.240 --> 35:30.240]  David, will you address that in a little more detail?
[35:30.240 --> 35:33.240]  Well, listen, Randall, thanks for having me on the show.
[35:33.240 --> 35:36.240]  This is David Tolst and Jason.
[35:36.240 --> 35:41.240]  I appreciate you being a listener on the 92.7 radio station here in Georgia.
[35:41.240 --> 35:43.240]  When we talk about these issues, it's a great deal.
[35:43.240 --> 35:46.240]  I'm on the air Eastern time 1 to 3 p.m.
[35:46.240 --> 35:55.240]  And my press platform where I write is called tntrafficticket.us.
[35:55.240 --> 36:01.240]  And the pitch I've made to the county commission is that do you care about your officers?
[36:01.240 --> 36:08.240]  If you do, then you will make a point of having the sheriff whose budget you control,
[36:08.240 --> 36:10.240]  so you don't control him.
[36:10.240 --> 36:15.240]  You will encourage the sheriff to respect our transportation shipping and freight statute,
[36:15.240 --> 36:20.240]  which covers people, guess what, Randall, who are involved in freight shipping and transportation,
[36:20.240 --> 36:26.240]  but not the listener of this show who's not employed in the shipping trade,
[36:26.240 --> 36:31.240]  but who simply uses the road for product purposes and for his necessities and the exercise of his life.
[36:31.240 --> 36:35.240]  And I told the commission, and I've written about the arguments here,
[36:35.240 --> 36:42.240]  is that the most dangerous encounter that police and sheriff's deputies have in their calling
[36:42.240 --> 36:47.240]  is not the domestic dispute call where they're on the front porch
[36:47.240 --> 36:50.240]  and there's a man on the other side that was screaming at a woman
[36:50.240 --> 36:55.240]  and she's using profanity and the children crying on the front window.
[36:55.240 --> 37:00.240]  No, the most dangerous encounter for police is the traffic stop with a traffic arrest.
[37:00.240 --> 37:04.240]  Don't forget, every stop is an arrest because you are a stop.
[37:04.240 --> 37:08.240]  And in Tennessee under state versus Gonzalez and state versus Raspberry,
[37:08.240 --> 37:11.240]  a traffic stop is an arrest.
[37:11.240 --> 37:14.240]  It meets the definition of the Fourth Amendment of an arrest.
[37:14.240 --> 37:18.240]  Traffic stops are the most dangerous for officers.
[37:18.240 --> 37:24.240]  And if we really care about officers, we will work on individually in our individual towns and counties
[37:24.240 --> 37:26.240]  to bring about reform.
[37:26.240 --> 37:28.240]  And reform is local-centric.
[37:28.240 --> 37:34.240]  It happens in each jurisdiction where there's a person who cares about police, who cares about liberty,
[37:34.240 --> 37:41.240]  who wants there to be an end of what I believe as a broadcast journalist and investigative reporter
[37:41.240 --> 37:44.240]  and a serious, serious breach of the peace by the police,
[37:44.240 --> 37:50.240]  the serious damage to the poor, the ancestors of slaves who reside among us
[37:50.240 --> 37:56.240]  and immigrants who are here for the freedom and prosperity of the American criminal process.
[37:56.240 --> 38:02.240]  They're all highly vulnerable to police abuse, police stops, police extortion,
[38:02.240 --> 38:05.240]  rape, beatings, shootings and the like.
[38:05.240 --> 38:11.240]  And then false claims against them under the misused traffic and transportation statutes in my state, Tennessee,
[38:11.240 --> 38:14.240]  and yours, if you're an elsewhere, either of those.
[38:14.240 --> 38:20.240]  So if you care about cops, make sure that the employer, the county or the city,
[38:20.240 --> 38:24.240]  and eventually the state, respect the limits in the statute.
[38:24.240 --> 38:27.240]  So you're a pro-police, it's a pro-police position.
[38:27.240 --> 38:32.240]  So I'm suggesting here Randall, and again, thanks for having me on the show today,
[38:32.240 --> 38:35.240]  the rule of law rate is a great show.
[38:35.240 --> 38:40.240]  I've heard many instances of it in the past online, so I'm familiar with your work.
[38:40.240 --> 38:42.240]  We care about police.
[38:42.240 --> 38:45.240]  There is a political component to this whole issue, which I think is important.
[38:45.240 --> 38:50.240]  We don't care about this issue because we're cranks, you know, we're just kind of patriot in that job.
[38:50.240 --> 38:52.240]  That's not really fair.
[38:52.240 --> 38:57.240]  So some of us, I think, follow ethereal patriot schemes and theories,
[38:57.240 --> 39:01.240]  which really can't be argued in court because they're so kind of poetical.
[39:01.240 --> 39:04.240]  They're so poetical and so theoretical.
[39:04.240 --> 39:11.240]  There is a political campaign on the ground approach that this effort brings.
[39:11.240 --> 39:17.240]  I've analyzed it in detail at my website, cntraffic.us, and here's what it is.
[39:17.240 --> 39:23.240]  If Chattanooga, let's say, or maybe your town, your Belisner's town, says,
[39:23.240 --> 39:27.240]  you know, we've heard of that rule of law, a regular listener.
[39:27.240 --> 39:29.240]  We agree with this notice.
[39:29.240 --> 39:31.240]  This notice is correct.
[39:31.240 --> 39:34.240]  The traffic statute, the shipping statute is narrow.
[39:34.240 --> 39:37.240]  It doesn't cover everybody, just people involved in commerce.
[39:37.240 --> 39:42.240]  We're going to declare ourselves, starting Monday, a city that obeys the law.
[39:42.240 --> 39:45.240]  We're going to opt to obey the black letter of law,
[39:45.240 --> 39:50.240]  and we're going to ignore and reject the false judiciary claims
[39:50.240 --> 39:53.240]  that we don't have a right to travel by car,
[39:53.240 --> 39:56.240]  and that all use of cars and trucks on the road is somehow commercial.
[39:56.240 --> 40:02.240]  So clearly our statute makes this distinctly commercial foregain
[40:02.240 --> 40:05.240]  that's in view of the law.
[40:05.240 --> 40:08.240]  What happens then is that political acts where an elected mayor says,
[40:08.240 --> 40:11.240]  or county commission says, we're going to obey the law,
[40:11.240 --> 40:16.240]  and we're going to turn our back on the oppressive power that we have seized
[40:16.240 --> 40:20.240]  against the people's rights from the custom of the police,
[40:20.240 --> 40:24.240]  the custom of sheriff's deputies and sheriff's departments for decades,
[40:24.240 --> 40:25.240]  decades and decades.
[40:25.240 --> 40:27.240]  We're going to turn our back on that.
[40:27.240 --> 40:29.240]  We're going to say, no, we're not using that power.
[40:29.240 --> 40:33.240]  Our employees are not going to use that power against our people in the city.
[40:33.240 --> 40:36.240]  What you've done, Randall, is create a sanctuary city,
[40:36.240 --> 40:39.240]  a sanctuary city that people on the white,
[40:39.240 --> 40:42.240]  people who hate Mexicans, who hate immigration and want the wall,
[40:42.240 --> 40:44.240]  that's my listener and my radio station.
[40:44.240 --> 40:46.240]  We're the Trump station.
[40:46.240 --> 40:51.240]  Those people can say, wow, we're making ourselves a sanctuary city,
[40:51.240 --> 40:56.240]  and the Democrats talk that this is us. This is us, the conservatives.
[40:56.240 --> 40:57.240]  You have a sanctuary city.
[40:57.240 --> 41:02.240]  You have a candidate for office who has suddenly huge political potential.
[41:02.240 --> 41:08.240]  I've done some lengthy analyses as a writer on potential politically
[41:08.240 --> 41:11.240]  for someone taking this position.
[41:11.240 --> 41:15.240]  Again, working bottom up, working cop by cop at the traffic stops
[41:15.240 --> 41:19.240]  and eventually convincing the chief of police to look.
[41:19.240 --> 41:21.240]  You're abusing your authority,
[41:21.240 --> 41:24.240]  and eventually you have a candidate for office or a fitting mayor
[41:24.240 --> 41:30.240]  or county commission that says, we are convinced that we are abusing our people.
[41:30.240 --> 41:31.240]  Our jail is always full.
[41:31.240 --> 41:34.240]  We have overcrowding problems, and that's because we have too much intake.
[41:34.240 --> 41:36.240]  Too many people coming into the jail.
[41:36.240 --> 41:39.240]  Let's cut back on intake, okay?
[41:39.240 --> 41:40.240]  How do we do that?
[41:40.240 --> 41:41.240]  Let's obey the law.
[41:41.240 --> 41:44.240]  Hey, let's obey the transportation law in our state,
[41:44.240 --> 41:46.240]  the shipping, freight and transportation law,
[41:46.240 --> 41:51.240]  and let's stop bringing into our court, into our jail people not involved,
[41:51.240 --> 41:56.240]  not involved in freight, shipping and transportation and traffic,
[41:56.240 --> 42:00.240]  who are not, in fact, operators of motor vehicles and drivers of motor vehicles,
[42:00.240 --> 42:02.240]  not employed in the shipping trade.
[42:02.240 --> 42:03.240]  Let's stop abusing them.
[42:03.240 --> 42:06.240]  A sanctuary city that even the life could love,
[42:06.240 --> 42:08.240]  and don't forget, the left love it too.
[42:08.240 --> 42:11.240]  Right, the left wing, the progressives, they care about immigrants.
[42:11.240 --> 42:12.240]  They care about union people.
[42:12.240 --> 42:14.240]  They care about workers, common people.
[42:14.240 --> 42:16.240]  That's their market, right?
[42:16.240 --> 42:19.240]  On the right hand, you've got the Republicans, the conservatives.
[42:19.240 --> 42:21.240]  They're all about saving money.
[42:21.240 --> 42:25.240]  If you stop transportation arrest, you cut back on the jail,
[42:25.240 --> 42:28.240]  you can cut back on the police force, you can save on taxes.
[42:28.240 --> 42:30.240]  They care about the rule of law.
[42:30.240 --> 42:31.240]  They care about the Constitution.
[42:31.240 --> 42:33.240]  They care about liberty, right?
[42:33.240 --> 42:36.240]  They always talk about liberty, the party of Lincoln, right?
[42:36.240 --> 42:38.240]  The party of liberty, liberation.
[42:38.240 --> 42:41.240]  Well, so they're going to love this candidate for mayor,
[42:41.240 --> 42:43.240]  or this mayor for what he's done.
[42:43.240 --> 42:48.240]  The administrative notice project that I'm working on here
[42:48.240 --> 42:52.240]  as a model for others goes right down the middle,
[42:52.240 --> 42:54.240]  Randall, between the left and the right,
[42:54.240 --> 42:56.240]  the conservatives and the liberal,
[42:56.240 --> 42:58.240]  the Republicans and the Democrats.
[42:58.240 --> 42:59.240]  Right down the middle.
[42:59.240 --> 43:02.240]  And both can say, yes, yes, yes.
[43:02.240 --> 43:03.240]  You're black activists.
[43:03.240 --> 43:06.240]  You're black lives matter activists.
[43:06.240 --> 43:07.240]  You're ACLU.
[43:07.240 --> 43:10.240]  You're a right wing organization.
[43:10.240 --> 43:11.240]  They can be forward.
[43:11.240 --> 43:14.240]  I mean, there might be some on the right who will object.
[43:14.240 --> 43:17.240]  You know, people who want to board a wall from those people.
[43:17.240 --> 43:21.240]  But generally, conservatives and constitution minded,
[43:21.240 --> 43:24.240]  free market type, conservative business people,
[43:24.240 --> 43:26.240]  they'll love the candidate who says,
[43:26.240 --> 43:29.240]  we're making our town a sanctuary city,
[43:29.240 --> 43:33.240]  a free city once again, remember?
[43:33.240 --> 43:34.240]  Okay.
[43:34.240 --> 43:37.240]  Hey, we're about to go to break.
[43:37.240 --> 43:39.240]  I did that again.
[43:39.240 --> 43:41.240]  Okay.
[43:41.240 --> 43:43.240]  Remember, we have our fundraiser on.
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[43:46.240 --> 43:52.240]  We've got Eddie Craig with his traffic seminar.
[43:52.240 --> 43:53.240]  What's his name?
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[43:57.240 --> 44:00.240]  I'll be right back.
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[46:29.240 --> 46:35.240]  When I'm hungry, I like to know just what I'm fishing for
[46:35.240 --> 46:41.240]  I ain't asking for much, I ain't trying to be no glutton
[46:41.240 --> 46:46.240]  I'm just here making my living, pushing buttons
[46:46.240 --> 46:52.240]  I give my message out to anyone if you're shouting distance
[46:52.240 --> 46:58.240]  I vote for bravery and against slavery, showing resistance
[46:58.240 --> 47:03.240]  First I'm crawling, then I'm walking, then I start strutting
[47:03.240 --> 47:08.240]  Just so glad to make my living, pushing buttons
[47:21.240 --> 47:25.240]  When we sat down to play monopoly, we all wanted to win the game
[47:25.240 --> 47:31.240]  We gave some guy this money supply, we must have not been thinking the brain
[47:31.240 --> 47:35.240]  After some time, worth of my time, got beat down to them
[47:35.240 --> 47:38.240]  There's nothing I might have been too known like to do
[47:38.240 --> 47:42.240]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, rule of law radio
[47:42.240 --> 47:52.240]  Here with our special guest, David Tallis of Duga Radio in 92.7, Chattanooga, Tennessee
[47:52.240 --> 47:59.240]  I had a place to go when I come back and I lost it
[47:59.240 --> 48:05.240]  Hold on, I think I have an issue. Okay, try that again, David
[48:05.240 --> 48:10.240]  Well, hey Randy, Randall, thanks for having me come on the show today
[48:10.240 --> 48:17.240]  And I want to just emphasize how this is a small, my project, it sounds kind of big
[48:17.240 --> 48:24.240]  Transportation and administrative notes, it sounds kind of imposing like a large tank in a field
[48:24.240 --> 48:27.240]  Well, no, it's actually kind of a small project
[48:27.240 --> 48:31.240]  It took me some months to write this document to do all the research, but
[48:31.240 --> 48:35.240]  What I'm proposing is a very doable project
[48:35.240 --> 48:40.240]  And what I like about it is that the individual listener can do it in his own town
[48:40.240 --> 48:43.240]  We're not trying to solve the problems of the whole state, okay
[48:43.240 --> 48:49.240]  We're trying to solve the police, the traffic stop problem, one town at a time
[48:49.240 --> 48:51.240]  One county at a time
[48:51.240 --> 49:00.240]  And we do it by convincing individual people, officers on the street, the police chief, the mayor, the county commission, the city council, maybe the county commission
[49:00.240 --> 49:07.240]  But hey, we have an abuse problem, we have a too much intake of people in the jail problem
[49:07.240 --> 49:13.240]  In jail on bail, they can't get out because they're too poor, probably, okay
[49:13.240 --> 49:23.240]  There's a social damage that comes when the barrier of our protections is lowered so low as it is in every state with the transportation law
[49:23.240 --> 49:26.240]  Let's make our town a better town
[49:26.240 --> 49:32.240]  So my project in Chattanooga, which has 170,000 people resident in it, it's a small midsize city
[49:32.240 --> 49:37.240]  Is to make traffic stops end in Chattanooga
[49:37.240 --> 49:51.240]  Against all odds, it seems like a quixotic goal, you know, from Don Quixote, the Cervantes novel, a quixotic undertaking, you know, tilting windmills with his lance
[49:51.240 --> 49:54.240]  The windmill blade is the enemy that I'm running around
[49:54.240 --> 49:57.240]  So it's kind of a silly picture
[49:57.240 --> 50:02.240]  But here I am, this journalist trying to make these traffic stops come to an end
[50:02.240 --> 50:14.240]  To make them come again in accordance with the actual statute despite the approval and permission of the activist judiciary in Tennessee, which is mirrored in all the other states
[50:14.240 --> 50:18.240]  But I'm not trying to say everybody, I'm just trying to work in my little area, my city
[50:18.240 --> 50:30.240]  If I could give my city notice, and on February 20 of last year, Chattanooga went officially under notice, there's been no rebuttal of it, and people didn't even read it
[50:30.240 --> 50:37.240]  There was no news about it, except my own news as a newscaster, it was generally ignored
[50:37.240 --> 50:40.240]  But that's, you know, it's ignored because they think we have nothing to say to them
[50:40.240 --> 50:49.240]  They think we have new authority that notice from us, the member of the public, has no standing, no purpose, does not need to be considered at all
[50:49.240 --> 51:02.240]  And yet, if notice is properly understood, which I have done the research on, we can affect change and reform eventually in each our own individual cities and towns
[51:02.240 --> 51:06.240]  Which means that I'm not fighting off too much, it's a scale problem
[51:06.240 --> 51:13.240]  If we think we have to change the country, that's what we do, we'll always be feeling behind and kind of under the gun
[51:13.240 --> 51:21.240]  If we deal with one officer at a time, the conversation, hey, sir, you've read my notice, mayor, can I ask you about the notice?
[51:21.240 --> 51:30.240]  I had an hour-long meeting with the city attorney about the notice, and they rejected my analysis, but they couldn't really answer my question
[51:30.240 --> 51:36.240]  And, of course, that was widely reported by me, though no one else carried it
[51:36.240 --> 51:41.240]  So you don't have to own a radio station to do what I'm doing, you can do it yourself
[51:41.240 --> 51:46.240]  And you want to say, look, you're bound personally to obey the law
[51:46.240 --> 51:53.240]  You took a note before God to respect my rights and the rights of all the people here, and you're not doing it with these traffic stops
[51:53.240 --> 51:58.240]  And I'm just putting you on, I'm giving you a warning, this is a fair warning, you need to know what the limits of the law are
[51:58.240 --> 52:05.240]  I've written this notice, it makes no arguments, but it simply restates all the definitions, all the laws that apply, all the court cases that apply
[52:05.240 --> 52:12.240]  And guess what? You can't stop me on the road unless I have committed an actual crime, unless you have a warrant for my arrest
[52:12.240 --> 52:20.240]  Or, Randall, unless you have a warrant to search my car, those are the only reasons you can stop me, you can't do it otherwise
[52:20.240 --> 52:28.240]  And so, one person at a time, we rely on their oath, we rely on the fact that the officer had good intentions in his calling
[52:28.240 --> 52:36.240]  He swore to God to protect the Constitution and obey it, and here now he's being given orders to stop people from transportation offenses
[52:36.240 --> 52:39.240]  or not involve legally transportation
[52:39.240 --> 52:47.240]  So if we make these changes, we care about the individual cops and chief of police or deputy and sheriff
[52:47.240 --> 52:56.240]  And we can do this in a loving and affectionate way, we can do this caringly, not because we're angry, Randall, but because we care about the individual men and women
[52:56.240 --> 53:04.240]  who are enforcing these laws in violation of their oath and in violation of our rights to be free from oppression and abuse
[53:04.240 --> 53:17.240]  It's been my experience that those times that I have the most effect are those times when I am not the least bit upset
[53:17.240 --> 53:28.240]  When I don't point an accusing finger at anybody, I just go in and say, here's the law, here's where you violated it
[53:28.240 --> 53:35.240]  Here's the remedy, I want the remedy extracted and I always joke with them
[53:35.240 --> 53:43.240]  The one thing the police want to be able to do is accuse you of being agitated
[53:43.240 --> 53:49.240]  Once they can call you agitated, then they can pretty well negate anything you say or do
[53:49.240 --> 53:57.240]  And a lot of what I do with my show is to try to get people not to be angry at these police
[53:57.240 --> 54:01.240]  It's not because they may not deserve anger
[54:01.240 --> 54:10.240]  It's you treat them with Christian dignity and respect and it makes them crazy
[54:10.240 --> 54:16.240]  Because they need to discredit you, they need to turn you into a villain
[54:16.240 --> 54:24.240]  But when you're not the villain, when you're there doing like Jason
[54:24.240 --> 54:28.240]  Jason's never been beat up by the police, he's never been through all these things
[54:28.240 --> 54:36.240]  But he sees what's going on, he feels it's wrong and he wants to do something about it
[54:36.240 --> 54:41.240]  He is the most powerful guy out there
[54:41.240 --> 54:46.240]  He is the one that can have the most influence
[54:46.240 --> 54:50.240]  Because when the good guys are coming after you and you're a policeman
[54:50.240 --> 54:55.240]  You've got to look over your shoulder and reevaluate what you've been doing
[54:55.240 --> 55:00.240]  So the most important thing, don't be angry
[55:00.240 --> 55:06.240]  Don't do this because they've been mean to you and you want to pay them back
[55:06.240 --> 55:08.240]  Never works
[55:08.240 --> 55:14.240]  Judge not, not your place, do this because it's the right thing for the right reason
[55:14.240 --> 55:22.240]  When you go in with that perspective, you don't get angry and they're not able to get you to dance for them
[55:22.240 --> 55:28.240]  They're not able to get you to give them a reason to accuse you of being agitated
[55:28.240 --> 55:36.240]  And arguments like you already have this notice
[55:36.240 --> 55:41.240]  You've been put on notice and you didn't respond to it
[55:41.240 --> 55:44.240]  Let them explain why they didn't respond
[55:44.240 --> 55:48.240]  You're in Tennessee, we're in Tennessee, Jason is not
[55:48.240 --> 55:58.240]  And Tennessee has extremely powerful law that will allow you, any individual to take these guys to task
[55:58.240 --> 56:04.240]  If you petition for audience with a grand jury
[56:04.240 --> 56:14.240]  In Tennessee, you have a statutory right to appear before the foreman and two grandeur members of your choice
[56:14.240 --> 56:20.240]  You just tell them, okay, I think you guys did something wrong, I want to present to the grand jury
[56:20.240 --> 56:27.240]  You will not believe the jumping up and down and the nail biting and the gnashing of teeth
[56:27.240 --> 56:31.240]  These guys will be terrified
[56:31.240 --> 56:39.240]  In my experience, the more corrupt jurisdiction is, the more afraid of you they are
[56:39.240 --> 56:42.240]  They all know they're dirty
[56:42.240 --> 56:48.240]  And if you go in, everybody there figures you're out after them
[56:48.240 --> 56:56.240]  If you go in with no anger, with professionalism and just take them apart on the details
[56:56.240 --> 56:59.240]  You terrify everybody
[56:59.240 --> 57:06.240]  We can do this, ordinary people, we are the most powerful influence out there
[57:06.240 --> 57:14.240]  And I think what will happen, Randall, let me just add that you're talking about not being angry, that's important
[57:14.240 --> 57:21.240]  But also having confidence, and I think we get confidence about what we're saying and doing when we actually spend some time reading the law
[57:21.240 --> 57:29.240]  We read the Bible, many people read the Bible and Christians do, and that's the law
[57:29.240 --> 57:37.240]  And in Georgia, in New York, I said we have a caller from New York that you want to talk to, Ken, New York is probably a law-abiding law
[57:37.240 --> 57:44.240]  And they're similar in all the states, and you said that too, Randall Kelton, that the laws all have very similar definitions
[57:44.240 --> 57:50.240]  And they're similar structures and sometimes identical enumeration of provisions, right?
[57:50.240 --> 57:59.240]  Yes, all but three states adopted the federally produced penal code and criminal procedure code
[57:59.240 --> 58:03.240]  And then the states made somewhat some adjustments of their own
[58:03.240 --> 58:10.240]  And I bring that up to say this, that if we have these things written down, and that's what my notice is
[58:10.240 --> 58:15.240]  My transportation administrative notice is the fruit of all my reading in the law
[58:15.240 --> 58:20.240]  And cutting and pasting from online versions and reading and reading court cases
[58:20.240 --> 58:28.240]  And I'm very confident that I'm not just a crank, I'm not just a kind of constitutional loony, or a light-winged patriot
[58:28.240 --> 58:37.240]  I'm a serious scholarly kind of person, I'm a home school dad, I'm a former newspaper editor, I run a radio station, I write to the New York
[58:37.240 --> 58:42.240]  Hang on, we'll be right back
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[01:00:57.240 --> 01:01:00.240]  killing 10 and injuring 40.
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[01:01:04.240 --> 01:01:18.240]  In recent news, since Governor Greg Abbott signed House Bill 1325 legalizing hemp into taxes law back in June, county prosecutors around the state, including Houston, Austin and San Antonio, have been dropping marijuana possession charges and even refusing to file new ones,
[01:01:18.240 --> 01:01:24.240]  since they are stipulating that they do not have the time or the laboratory equipment to test the year for THC.
[01:01:24.240 --> 01:01:33.240]  Margaret Moore, the Travis County District Attorney, announced earlier this month that she was dismissing 32 felony possession and delivery of marijuana cases because of the law.
[01:01:33.240 --> 01:01:47.240]  Mr Abbott and other state officials, including the Attorney General, stipulated in a letter to county district attorneys back on Thursday that marijuana has not been decriminalized in Texas and that these actions demonstrate a misunderstanding of how HB 1325 works,
[01:01:47.240 --> 01:02:01.240]  as well as other cities, too, like the district attorney in El Paso, Khayma Esparza, a Democrat who also stated earlier this month that the law, quote, will not have an effect on the prosecution of marijuana cases in El Paso.
[01:02:01.240 --> 01:02:12.240]  However, the issue was succinctly summarized by Mr Brandon Ball, an assistant public defender in Harris County, who stated that, quote, the law is constantly changing on what makes something illegal based on its chemical makeup.
[01:02:12.240 --> 01:02:22.240]  It's important that if someone is charged with something, the test matches what they're charged with.
[01:02:22.240 --> 01:02:38.240]  A paper by Tulane University identified a five and a half inch American pocket shark as the first of its kind in the Gulf of Mexico, the specimen being only the second pocket shark ever captured or recorded with the other one being found way back in 1979 in the East Pacific Ocean.
[01:02:38.240 --> 01:02:51.240]  According to the university paper, the shark secretes a lumus fluid from a gland near its front fins for the purposes hypothesized to lure and prey who may be drawn into the glow.
[01:02:51.240 --> 01:03:00.240]  This is Wolf Rody with your lowdown for July 22, 2019.
[01:03:00.240 --> 01:03:29.240]  Yeah, story forever wasn't here, like how we're not going to give in to the fear. Yeah, the story. I will lie in my mother's house until he returns.
[01:03:29.240 --> 01:03:40.240]  I will lie in my mother's house until he has to be with his friends and with them. I will hate my concern.
[01:03:40.240 --> 01:03:55.240]  I will lie in my mother's house until I realize I'm my father's house. I will lie in his face until I realize I'm my father's house.
[01:03:55.240 --> 01:04:00.240]  I will die these worlds infected.
[01:04:00.240 --> 01:04:11.240]  Okay, Randy Kelton, real world radio. David had to drop off, but we're going to go to college who's got...
[01:04:11.240 --> 01:04:18.240]  Oh, wait a minute. Ralph, I was just talking about you.
[01:04:18.240 --> 01:04:44.240]  Well, I was just talking to David about you, about how you picked a fight with a jurisdiction just to work out how to do all of this, and then your wife hit a deer and got arrested for DUI.
[01:04:44.240 --> 01:04:50.240]  Will you talk to David about that?
[01:04:50.240 --> 01:04:55.240]  Oh, hey, that's not... Who are we talking to?
[01:04:55.240 --> 01:04:57.240]  I'm talking to you.
[01:04:57.240 --> 01:05:01.240]  This Ralph in Texas, I didn't hit a deer. My wife didn't hit a deer.
[01:05:01.240 --> 01:05:04.240]  I thought it was you, your wife, that hit a deer.
[01:05:04.240 --> 01:05:05.240]  No.
[01:05:05.240 --> 01:05:11.240]  Wait a minute. You're the one that took on the jurisdiction next to you.
[01:05:11.240 --> 01:05:14.240]  Oh, I'm thinking of Adam.
[01:05:14.240 --> 01:05:21.240]  I think so, yeah. Maybe I'm not sure. I remember that subject, but that's not me, Randy.
[01:05:21.240 --> 01:05:25.240]  Oh, well, it should have been you.
[01:05:25.240 --> 01:05:28.240]  Well, it could have been maybe in another universe, I don't know.
[01:05:28.240 --> 01:05:31.240]  Okay, I'll bring dead today.
[01:05:31.240 --> 01:05:37.240]  I have been listening, and I did have a couple of questions on point, I think.
[01:05:37.240 --> 01:05:38.240]  Okay.
[01:05:38.240 --> 01:05:41.240]  So, let me get some questions here.
[01:05:41.240 --> 01:05:44.240]  Okay, I heard David say something. Hello, David.
[01:05:44.240 --> 01:05:46.240]  Hey, Rick.
[01:05:46.240 --> 01:05:48.240]  Hey, Ralph.
[01:05:48.240 --> 01:05:52.240]  Ralph, yeah. I heard you say something that sounded interesting.
[01:05:52.240 --> 01:05:55.240]  I've wanted you to expand on it a little bit.
[01:05:55.240 --> 01:06:02.240]  You said judicial policy. Is that like case law or what?
[01:06:02.240 --> 01:06:05.240]  Well, yes.
[01:06:05.240 --> 01:06:19.240]  The courts in Tennessee, I think it's like courts in every other state, and that is that they, the judges and who are lawyers, they kind of gather around an opinion of how the world is going to look.
[01:06:19.240 --> 01:06:31.240]  We are going to decide at our judicial conferences, at our agreements, at our vacations together, at our judicial conferences, is where a lot of work is done on determining how the law is to be understood,
[01:06:31.240 --> 01:06:40.240]  or how we're all going to agree to shape the course of the state's operation upon, or should we say, against the people.
[01:06:40.240 --> 01:06:49.240]  Limiting their rights, presuming that they have no rights, and presuming that the only thing that exists is the state itself.
[01:06:49.240 --> 01:06:58.240]  And that, of course, is the total state, and they are effectively, you could say, if you want to kind of cause a moment of alarm among your listener,
[01:06:58.240 --> 01:07:04.240]  you could say, well, that's how the deep state works. The deep state works by policy and thought law.
[01:07:04.240 --> 01:07:18.240]  So judicial policy in Tennessee is that there is no right to travel, which means to say that all use of the road is subject to commercial claims to the police power.
[01:07:18.240 --> 01:07:31.240]  The only right that's recognized is, as I think Randall suggested earlier, the right to move from one state to the other. And in Tennessee, it's apparently only to change domicile from one state to the other.
[01:07:31.240 --> 01:07:43.240]  That's the only travel that exists. Otherwise, all movement on the public road, on the freeway, the boulevards, lane streets, avenues of cities and the state and the counties,
[01:07:43.240 --> 01:07:56.240]  whether in crowded intersections or country byway, is commercial. That's the only way that the four-tired or six-tired machine can move.
[01:07:56.240 --> 01:08:00.240]  It can only move commercially. And that's done by what's called a legal fiction.
[01:08:00.240 --> 01:08:18.240]  Now, legal fictions are their kind of complex mechanisms that judges create. There are two books on all legal fictions. The leading name in the academic field on the American side is named Juan Fuller, L-O-N-S-U-L-L-E-R.
[01:08:18.240 --> 01:08:25.240]  And his book is called Legal Fictions. And you can find it. He was, I think, a Harvard professor who wrote in the 1940s.
[01:08:25.240 --> 01:08:41.240]  And I don't have the publication date here, but you can go to Amazon and find it. Legal fictions. And then there's another one printed in Holland by the Dutch, an academic treatise that has several essays on how legal fictions work.
[01:08:41.240 --> 01:08:56.240]  But legal fictions are just that. There are things that are kind of workarounds in law where you make something happen. You have a kind of goal and you shape your material in your rulings to fit your opinion, right?
[01:08:56.240 --> 01:09:02.240]  So you're not really subservient to the Constitution anymore. You're not even subservient to the actual law.
[01:09:02.240 --> 01:09:16.240]  So for Tennessee, for example, to have a judicial policy that says there is no right of movement by car, and that all use of cars has to be under state privilege by permission and request, or by request and permission.
[01:09:16.240 --> 01:09:32.240]  That is a fiction. It's a legal fiction. And it requires, essentially, a rejection of much more foundational parts of the law. That would be the rules of statutory construction. And I've written a paper on that. I haven't published it yet.
[01:09:32.240 --> 01:09:51.240]  For example, in Tennessee, we have a thing called the Failure to Exhibit on Demand Statute. And it says in a paraphrase on the first of the key sentence, the licensee shall have such licensees licensed on his person at all times and must exhibit it on demand of the officer.
[01:09:51.240 --> 01:09:58.240]  Okay, Ralph. So let me ask you this, Ralph. To whom does that statute apply?
[01:09:58.240 --> 01:10:11.240]  I can't hear you very well. Say that again. I said to whom does that law apply? It says the licensee shall have licensees licensed on his person at all times and must exhibit it on demand. To whom does it apply?
[01:10:11.240 --> 01:10:25.240]  That would be someone in business. Well, it applies to a licensee, right? So how can that statute be applied to someone who never had a license, right, or who does not have a license now?
[01:10:25.240 --> 01:10:34.240]  How can that be? In my particular case, that's what we're saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what Randy and Eddie are both saying.
[01:10:34.240 --> 01:10:45.240]  We're operating on the same page in a lot of areas, but you've got an interesting approach to it. And yeah, you've got a lot of people listening, I think.
[01:10:45.240 --> 01:11:00.240]  I only have one listener on my show, so I'm not sure about that, but I tell you that because radio works one person at a time. I always talk to my listener. He and I get together and talk about the situation in Tennessee and so on.
[01:11:00.240 --> 01:11:04.240]  Judicial policy, what?
[01:11:04.240 --> 01:11:07.240]  A person listening to your radio station over the Internet.
[01:11:07.240 --> 01:11:10.760]  Well, yeah, okay, I have one of those too.
[01:11:10.760 --> 01:11:15.840]  The idea of judicial policy is that these people have decided to maintain the hegemony
[01:11:15.840 --> 01:11:16.840]  of the state.
[01:11:16.840 --> 01:11:21.960]  In other words, the control of the state of an entire area of human activities, which
[01:11:21.960 --> 01:11:24.720]  somehow it has subsumed.
[01:11:24.720 --> 01:11:33.040]  It has absorbed this field of life, and in the use of your car, you have all kinds of
[01:11:33.040 --> 01:11:37.960]  rights that you exercise, the right of movement, the right of free speech, the right of communication,
[01:11:37.960 --> 01:11:41.960]  the right to bare arms, the right of free associations, the right of taking part in
[01:11:41.960 --> 01:11:42.960]  politics and elections.
[01:11:42.960 --> 01:11:48.320]  I know elections are a privilege, but one can say that one has the right to go to the
[01:11:48.320 --> 01:11:51.920]  voting poll, the polling station, right?
[01:11:51.920 --> 01:11:56.920]  The right to religion, to go to a worship service, to go to a deacons meeting, to go
[01:11:56.920 --> 01:12:01.040]  to a charity call, as part of church life, these are all rights.
[01:12:01.040 --> 01:12:04.320]  How is it that the state says, you can't do that without our permission?
[01:12:04.320 --> 01:12:10.280]  You can't do that unless you first obtain, through the commercial statute, our permission
[01:12:10.280 --> 01:12:16.960]  by privilege, you obtain the privilege of moving yourself in your car to go to your
[01:12:16.960 --> 01:12:19.040]  Bible study or your book study.
[01:12:19.040 --> 01:12:20.040]  Right.
[01:12:20.040 --> 01:12:21.040]  All right.
[01:12:21.040 --> 01:12:22.040]  Yeah.
[01:12:22.040 --> 01:12:23.040]  And so that's judicial policy.
[01:12:23.040 --> 01:12:24.040]  That's illegal fiction.
[01:12:24.040 --> 01:12:25.520]  And we can't stop it.
[01:12:25.520 --> 01:12:30.680]  My project with administrative notice is to understand that we can't change things at
[01:12:30.680 --> 01:12:31.680]  the top.
[01:12:31.680 --> 01:12:34.520]  That's out of our purview, out of our, really, out of our influence.
[01:12:34.520 --> 01:12:39.600]  So we can change things at the local level, so that there is, in the end, a discontinuity
[01:12:39.600 --> 01:12:44.680]  between policy and a particular town, between what happens in your state capital and the
[01:12:44.680 --> 01:12:50.600]  judges and the bar, and your local rural county, where the sheriff is a real good guy and
[01:12:50.600 --> 01:12:51.600]  a constitutionalist.
[01:12:51.600 --> 01:12:55.800]  If you just could understand what he's up against when he's enforcing the transportation
[01:12:55.800 --> 01:13:01.320]  law in your county upon people not involved in transportation, help them out.
[01:13:01.320 --> 01:13:02.320]  Give them a notice.
[01:13:02.320 --> 01:13:09.040]  Give them a review of what the law says, the limits of the law, the scope of the law,
[01:13:09.040 --> 01:13:11.120]  how the law is properly understood.
[01:13:11.120 --> 01:13:16.960]  You have to not be able to read, to use the law in Tennessee, as they are using it now,
[01:13:16.960 --> 01:13:24.880]  outside the scope to apply the transportation rules on people who are private users.
[01:13:24.880 --> 01:13:33.480]  That is, I think, how do you make the argument that the transportation code in Tennessee
[01:13:33.480 --> 01:13:37.360]  is a professional code?
[01:13:37.360 --> 01:13:39.760]  I mean, roughly, well, in detail.
[01:13:39.760 --> 01:13:44.720]  It's not a professional code, as in a code that deals with, let's say, the art of accounting
[01:13:44.720 --> 01:13:50.520]  or the science of podiatry, okay, those are professional codes written by commissions
[01:13:50.520 --> 01:13:54.560]  that deal with that trade and that particular calling.
[01:13:54.560 --> 01:14:00.080]  Here, the calling is very general, and it's not really a specific trade.
[01:14:00.080 --> 01:14:06.600]  What's being regulated is the use, okay, it is the activity that is subject to the police
[01:14:06.600 --> 01:14:12.080]  power, to the taxing powers, the activity of using the road as your primary place of
[01:14:12.080 --> 01:14:13.080]  business.
[01:14:13.080 --> 01:14:14.080]  Look, I'm a journalist, okay?
[01:14:14.080 --> 01:14:22.080]  My place of business is the court, the studio, my office, places where I go for interviews,
[01:14:22.080 --> 01:14:26.800]  I read the library, I do a little bit of legal reading at the public library, at the university
[01:14:26.800 --> 01:14:33.840]  library in my town, and I use the road to make these movements of my body and my papers
[01:14:33.840 --> 01:14:36.320]  and my computer, right, my laptop.
[01:14:36.320 --> 01:14:40.760]  I'm on the road, but I'm not, and I'm doing business, right, Ralph?
[01:14:40.760 --> 01:14:44.040]  I'm in business, but I'm not using the road for business.
[01:14:44.040 --> 01:14:45.880]  The road is incidental.
[01:14:45.880 --> 01:14:53.720]  The activity of the use of the road is incidental to my profession as journalist, but the record
[01:14:53.720 --> 01:14:59.600]  service operator, the ambulance operator, the cabbie, the moving company, the bus operator,
[01:14:59.600 --> 01:15:01.600]  they're all different from me.
[01:15:01.600 --> 01:15:03.600]  We're all on the road together.
[01:15:03.600 --> 01:15:10.560]  We're all in business, yes, but that business, the road use is primary, and therefore it's
[01:15:10.560 --> 01:15:12.560]  subject to the code.
[01:15:12.560 --> 01:15:18.080]  And, you know, it's subject to the decent and wide enforcement by the police of these
[01:15:18.080 --> 01:15:24.880]  rules of the road on them, because they're making a profit on your and my infrastructure
[01:15:24.880 --> 01:15:25.880]  that we pay for.
[01:15:25.880 --> 01:15:31.360]  It belongs to the people of our state, and so that's why there's no big deal.
[01:15:31.360 --> 01:15:32.360]  Go ahead.
[01:15:32.360 --> 01:15:36.280]  Tim Moore, I'm going to give you two of them, and then you can answer these either way you
[01:15:36.280 --> 01:15:37.280]  want, okay?
[01:15:37.280 --> 01:15:39.560]  It's just a statement, and maybe you can elaborate.
[01:15:39.560 --> 01:15:40.560]  Okay.
[01:15:40.560 --> 01:15:41.560]  Make it quick.
[01:15:41.560 --> 01:15:46.000]  So, what about the perpetual, what's that, Randy?
[01:15:46.000 --> 01:15:51.600]  The perpetual need to renew the license, like, you know, you can't just get a license,
[01:15:51.600 --> 01:15:55.680]  and then you have a license, you just have to perpetually renew it.
[01:15:55.680 --> 01:16:01.120]  And then, let's say you get a citation, the citation raises the insurance or the cost
[01:16:01.120 --> 01:16:10.360]  of your insurance on your car, but that citation does not necessarily show that the cited individual
[01:16:10.360 --> 01:16:15.240]  has actually increased their risk to the insurance company.
[01:16:15.240 --> 01:16:23.160]  So, the fact that they're giving citations to make themselves money cost you money in
[01:16:23.160 --> 01:16:24.160]  two ways.
[01:16:24.160 --> 01:16:28.840]  It makes your insurance go up, even though you're not an increased insurance risk to
[01:16:28.840 --> 01:16:29.840]  the company.
[01:16:29.840 --> 01:16:32.320]  So, maybe you can comment on that.
[01:16:32.320 --> 01:16:36.840]  Ralph, you think very deeply about these things, and that you've noticed those details, because
[01:16:36.840 --> 01:16:41.680]  what you're dealing with is in detail, shows that you really care about this issue, you
[01:16:41.680 --> 01:16:42.680]  really do.
[01:16:42.680 --> 01:16:45.680]  That's the question, though, that I don't think is important.
[01:16:45.680 --> 01:16:50.360]  Yes, there's money being made by the insurance companies and so on.
[01:16:50.360 --> 01:16:52.640]  That kind of defy the point for us, though.
[01:16:52.640 --> 01:16:53.640]  Okay.
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[01:20:15.940 --> 01:20:34.940]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, we have our radio here with our special guest, David Toast, Toulouse.
[01:20:34.940 --> 01:20:38.940]  I've been pronouncing that wrong all day and he's going to beat me.
[01:20:38.940 --> 01:20:49.940]  We were talking to Ralph in Texas. Who was talking? David was talking.
[01:20:49.940 --> 01:21:05.940]  Well, let's see, I want to be sure and ask where I can get the copy of this 20 page Transportation Administrative Notice because I've been known to plagiarize and I kind of enjoy it.
[01:21:05.940 --> 01:21:13.940]  And I'm already getting a lot of good arguments right here. I mean, both of you, David, and I'm hearing some new stuff from you too, Randy.
[01:21:13.940 --> 01:21:20.940]  That looks like I could make some arguments around harmony of interest, human beings are not suicidal.
[01:21:20.940 --> 01:21:29.940]  You know, it's that same argument. I've talked to different people over the years, not very many very often, but they're like, oh, you can't just do away with the license.
[01:21:29.940 --> 01:21:35.940]  You know, what will people do? People run into you and then they'll run away and this and that and the other, you know.
[01:21:35.940 --> 01:21:49.940]  So the only thing I can think of is something to the effect of if people are denied being able to learn how to be responsible, they're not going to be responsible.
[01:21:49.940 --> 01:21:56.940]  And that's what we have right now is, you know, governments taking everything away from us. So how do you learn to be responsible?
[01:21:56.940 --> 01:22:02.940]  You just learn to pay and some of us are getting tired of that effect.
[01:22:02.940 --> 01:22:04.940]  Is this Ralph, Phil?
[01:22:04.940 --> 01:22:06.940]  Yes.
[01:22:06.940 --> 01:22:18.940]  Well, Ralph, okay, thanks for asking about the notice. Let me just say what the limits are here. This is highly state-specific, but I suggest it's worth looking at just to see how I did it.
[01:22:18.940 --> 01:22:29.940]  And I think Eddie Craig's work is very similar. Eddie Craig's book is probably exactly the same thing. And notice it's not an argument, it's not a brief.
[01:22:29.940 --> 01:22:40.940]  You're not alleging anything, really. It's just laying out all the relevant statutes of federal and state and the various titles in Texas.
[01:22:40.940 --> 01:22:58.940]  And what it does is, because it doesn't make an argument, it's not a brief, okay? It's not a brief where you're claiming something and, you know, defending high liberties and what our founders gave us and all that kind of trite, that kind of hogwash stuff that ends up in a lot of patriotic,
[01:22:58.940 --> 01:23:06.940]  constitution-oriented material. You're not doing that. You're just simply stating what the law said. And you're trying to use the language of the law.
[01:23:06.940 --> 01:23:15.940]  You're stating what Bouvier's has. You've got blacks. I have a little section on what the Bible says, how driving and travel is in the Bible.
[01:23:15.940 --> 01:23:27.940]  And driving in the Bible, driver is always someone who's employed. The chariots were driven into the Red Sea by the soldiers of the Pharaoh.
[01:23:27.940 --> 01:23:39.940]  They're under orders. They're carrying on their duties. Driving is always in the Bible a directed act.
[01:23:39.940 --> 01:23:46.940]  And I'm not remembering if I have a lot of detail on the word travel, but travel in the Old Hebrew Republic was free.
[01:23:46.940 --> 01:23:59.940]  There were no licensing permits. I even quote Dred Scott versus Stanford, why blacks have to be under license. And as the justice who wrote that opinion says,
[01:23:59.940 --> 01:24:07.940]  you can't, blacks have to be under license because you would have chaos if they would be on the road freely coming in, going, if they please, you can't have that.
[01:24:07.940 --> 01:24:16.940]  So we're living under Dred Scott's field in my state and I'm certain in your state as well.
[01:24:16.940 --> 01:24:26.940]  So notice, if you want to find it, well, I'd say look at it and see how I did it. And just as a model, it has two main parts, there's 20 pages, there's an affidavit on the front.
[01:24:26.940 --> 01:24:39.940]  And the affidavit is so that I can get it published as a registered document in my county. I went to the next county. My local register of deeds was being kind of a turd in the road there.
[01:24:39.940 --> 01:24:52.940]  So I had to kind of go around and I went to the neighboring county. So there's an affidavit of power of attorney and that just states who got this notice and when and that there's been no rebuttal to that date.
[01:24:52.940 --> 01:25:02.940]  And then the notice goes on and that's just from the pages. And it is very safe for the city, but just see how I did it. And your laws are all the same, okay?
[01:25:02.940 --> 01:25:12.940]  You'll have probably some of the same documents, same, and I have, you know, I have the categories of controlling authorities, the purpose of regulation to protect public assets.
[01:25:12.940 --> 01:25:23.940]  The next section is regulation to ensure safety of traveling public and pedestrians. The next one, on page five, is driving, common operating vehicles across the city to regulation.
[01:25:23.940 --> 01:25:31.940]  And then federal law controls transportation enforcement. We resolve federally controlled operator defined as commercial, driver defined as commercial.
[01:25:31.940 --> 01:25:34.940]  This is a heading, okay? And on down through.
[01:25:34.940 --> 01:25:44.940]  The second half is about the first part is about the disabilities or limits in the law. And the second part is about how, you know, what the roads are for.
[01:25:44.940 --> 01:25:52.940]  They're used for travel, transportation, pleasure, purpose of private traveling, outside of travel is full of pleasure.
[01:25:52.940 --> 01:25:55.940]  That's how the law in my state describes it.
[01:25:55.940 --> 01:26:06.940]  So, you know, word search on your statute in your state. And what I'm doing is I'm defining travel. You know, what is a traveler? What is travel?
[01:26:06.940 --> 01:26:19.940]  And even cases that are against us, even cases that pretend that there is no right to travel, make it clear that travel is the private use and that it does not offend any interest of the state.
[01:26:19.940 --> 01:26:29.940]  So the judges can't hide entirely their, their miscreancy, their deception, okay? There is deception going on on their part to rule against us.
[01:26:29.940 --> 01:26:37.940]  But they can't hide it entirely from you. And I, you know, I'd like to say that I'm maybe calling them that on it.
[01:26:37.940 --> 01:26:44.940]  And so the goal is to have, usually the notice and have it serve people in your town.
[01:26:44.940 --> 01:26:50.940]  And that's your, that's your work here. Your work area is your town. That town belongs to you. You live there.
[01:26:50.940 --> 01:26:51.940]  All right.
[01:26:51.940 --> 01:26:58.940]  Well, so that's, that's why you should not think about a big, you know, exhaustive lot of travelers on, no, it's just in where you live.
[01:26:58.940 --> 01:27:04.940]  You want your place to be reformed by the proper use of the police.
[01:27:04.940 --> 01:27:10.940]  Well, it sounds like you've done a lot of work on it and looks like a fresh approach, you know.
[01:27:10.940 --> 01:27:14.940]  It's just a little bit different. I think, you know, it's all similar.
[01:27:14.940 --> 01:27:21.940]  We're, we're just all, you know, chipping at that big ball that's got, you know, turrets mounted on it.
[01:27:21.940 --> 01:27:31.940]  One thing I came across and I'm still working on is that in Texas, they say that the transportation code applies to everyone.
[01:27:31.940 --> 01:27:43.940]  Well, I said if it applies to everyone, then you have to be able to allow some kind of funding for the invigents.
[01:27:43.940 --> 01:27:52.940]  And I'm going to try to get the ACLU in on that because if they say everyone has to have a license, they're demanding that you spend money.
[01:27:52.940 --> 01:28:00.940]  And if you need to move from one place to another in a car to go to work, they'll visit your folks in the nursing home or whatever.
[01:28:00.940 --> 01:28:06.940]  And somebody's giving you a car and giving you some gas, but you have to go have a license.
[01:28:06.940 --> 01:28:09.940]  Well, there should be some state funding for that.
[01:28:09.940 --> 01:28:18.940]  If the license applies to everyone, which I don't believe it does, but I'm just saying, if they are going to tell us that that license applies to anyone,
[01:28:18.940 --> 01:28:21.940]  then they're going to have to supply funding for the invigents.
[01:28:21.940 --> 01:28:25.940]  I think that's a pretty good argument. So that's what I'm working on.
[01:28:25.940 --> 01:28:31.940]  I would say that that's interesting, but in what you're telling me, Ralph, that seems a bit kind of on the market.
[01:28:31.940 --> 01:28:37.940]  You're kind of making a point and you're clucking that you're making a point about their system.
[01:28:37.940 --> 01:28:39.940]  If their system is true, then they have to be doing these things.
[01:28:39.940 --> 01:28:43.940]  Somehow, if you're away, you can get it more fundamentally as a real problem.
[01:28:43.940 --> 01:28:51.940]  It seems to me that you're kind of shooting a little bit on the side, not at the center with your proposal.
[01:28:51.940 --> 01:28:55.940]  That's not the only place I'm aiming. That's just the only place I'm aiming.
[01:28:55.940 --> 01:29:01.940]  I'm using Eddie Craig's constitutional challenge.
[01:29:01.940 --> 01:29:03.940]  Oh, yes, sir. Well, that's terrific.
[01:29:03.940 --> 01:29:09.940]  If they apply it to us, they're doing it wrong because we're not in transportation.
[01:29:09.940 --> 01:29:16.940]  And hey, guess what? They didn't ratify the law properly.
[01:29:16.940 --> 01:29:22.940]  So, you know, it really is no law, but yet we're still arguing it.
[01:29:22.940 --> 01:29:26.940]  And the reason we're still arguing it is something I'm still trying to figure out.
[01:29:26.940 --> 01:29:28.940]  Why are we having to argue with these people?
[01:29:28.940 --> 01:29:37.940]  And the only thing I can come up with, I guess, is that there's fewer of us than are them, and we're not willing to shoot to get what we want.
[01:29:37.940 --> 01:29:43.940]  Not a good idea, Ralph. That's a fight you won't win.
[01:29:43.940 --> 01:29:48.940]  And this is coming from a combat veteran. I've been in a shooting war. You do not want to get in one.
[01:29:48.940 --> 01:29:53.940]  And we don't even go there. That's a bad place to go.
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[01:33:31.940 --> 01:33:33.940]  Randy Kelton, Rule of Law Radio,
[01:33:33.940 --> 01:33:36.940]  here with our special guest, Don Tullis.
[01:33:36.940 --> 01:33:38.940]  Don.
[01:33:38.940 --> 01:33:40.940]  David Tullis.
[01:33:40.940 --> 01:33:43.940]  I'm getting tired of getting bring dead.
[01:33:43.940 --> 01:33:47.940]  Okay, and we're going to go to Ken in New York.
[01:33:47.940 --> 01:33:50.940]  Hello, Ken.
[01:33:50.940 --> 01:33:55.940]  Hi, Randy. Hi, Dave.
[01:33:55.940 --> 01:33:58.940]  What do you have for us today, Ken?
[01:33:58.940 --> 01:34:02.940]  The picture that I got some time ago,
[01:34:02.940 --> 01:34:04.940]  I was listening with that.
[01:34:04.940 --> 01:34:09.940]  You couldn't resolve whether you were in commerce
[01:34:09.940 --> 01:34:14.940]  or in a private capacity.
[01:34:14.940 --> 01:34:18.940]  And to that end, would it help chip at somebody's questions
[01:34:18.940 --> 01:34:24.940]  by using your favorite tool, the declaratory judgment?
[01:34:24.940 --> 01:34:30.940]  That is a good point.
[01:34:30.940 --> 01:34:35.940]  That goes to politics.
[01:34:35.940 --> 01:34:41.940]  Yeah, well, if you went to the federal court
[01:34:41.940 --> 01:34:44.940]  and asked the federal court to rule
[01:34:44.940 --> 01:34:49.940]  whether or not a citizen of the United States
[01:34:49.940 --> 01:34:56.940]  had a right to move freely from state to state
[01:34:56.940 --> 01:34:59.940]  and within the states,
[01:34:59.940 --> 01:35:06.940]  they wouldn't have a dog in the traffic ticket hunt.
[01:35:06.940 --> 01:35:13.940]  So they might actually rule more cleanly on the declaratory judgment.
[01:35:13.940 --> 01:35:18.940]  For those of you who aren't familiar with the declaratory judgment,
[01:35:18.940 --> 01:35:22.940]  the declaratory judgment is not a claim of harm.
[01:35:22.940 --> 01:35:29.940]  It's not a complaint like a civil complaint or a criminal complaint.
[01:35:29.940 --> 01:35:33.940]  It's a different class of pleading
[01:35:33.940 --> 01:35:37.940]  that was only recently created by the courts
[01:35:37.940 --> 01:35:43.940]  for the most part as a way to take some of the pressure off the courts.
[01:35:43.940 --> 01:35:53.940]  So if you feel as though you have a claim based on a particular application of law,
[01:35:53.940 --> 01:36:00.940]  before you file a full petition, a full suit,
[01:36:00.940 --> 01:36:07.940]  you can go to the court and ask the court to rule on the rights of the parties,
[01:36:07.940 --> 01:36:16.940]  to rule how the law applies to the parties in this specific circumstance.
[01:36:16.940 --> 01:36:20.940]  And what I'm beginning to do with people who have issues
[01:36:20.940 --> 01:36:23.940]  that they will bring before the federal court
[01:36:23.940 --> 01:36:30.940]  is before you file suit in the federal court with a complaint,
[01:36:30.940 --> 01:36:33.940]  because a complaint will have claims.
[01:36:33.940 --> 01:36:38.940]  And what you're going to get since the Ashcroft-Tombly decision
[01:36:38.940 --> 01:36:46.940]  is the judge now has a discretion to determine whether or not your claim is sufficient.
[01:36:46.940 --> 01:36:50.940]  And you'll get a Rule 12, B6 motion to dismiss your failure state of claim.
[01:36:50.940 --> 01:36:53.940]  And if the judge doesn't want to bother hearing the case,
[01:36:53.940 --> 01:37:01.940]  he'll just rule you don't have sufficient evidence to support a claim and dismiss your case.
[01:37:01.940 --> 01:37:03.940]  It's a big problem in the courts.
[01:37:03.940 --> 01:37:09.940]  They get to exercise their discretion right on the front end.
[01:37:09.940 --> 01:37:12.940]  But with a declaratory judgment, there are no claims.
[01:37:12.940 --> 01:37:16.940]  So they were immune from a 12, B6.
[01:37:16.940 --> 01:37:24.940]  And it allows you to bring a singular clean issue before the court.
[01:37:24.940 --> 01:37:30.940]  So there's no facts of a case leaning on the decision.
[01:37:30.940 --> 01:37:34.940]  There's no secondary political fallout.
[01:37:34.940 --> 01:37:40.940]  You're asking for a fine ruling on point of law.
[01:37:40.940 --> 01:37:48.940]  You're more likely to get a clean ruling because the courts don't want to enter rulings
[01:37:48.940 --> 01:37:52.940]  on points of law that will change law.
[01:37:52.940 --> 01:38:00.940]  So I have someone in Alabama who was two police officers filed criminal charges against him
[01:38:00.940 --> 01:38:05.940]  in the state court because he filed suit against him in the federal court
[01:38:05.940 --> 01:38:16.940]  for arresting him on a traffic citation when he didn't fall within the statutory scheme.
[01:38:16.940 --> 01:38:20.940]  He spent 11 months in jail over this.
[01:38:20.940 --> 01:38:26.940]  So we're going to file a petition for declaratory judgment and ask the federal court,
[01:38:26.940 --> 01:38:40.940]  can a federal lawsuit by a state actor be construed as retaliation against a police officer?
[01:38:40.940 --> 01:38:43.940]  What can the court say?
[01:38:43.940 --> 01:38:51.940]  Yes, if they say yes, it essentially eliminates our access to the federal courts.
[01:38:51.940 --> 01:39:01.940]  The court would have to rule that no, a federal lawsuit cannot be construed as retaliation.
[01:39:01.940 --> 01:39:09.940]  Once they have that ruling in hand on this fact issue, then the civil case is dead bank.
[01:39:09.940 --> 01:39:13.940]  It's rez judicata, already been adjudicated, it's a done deal.
[01:39:13.940 --> 01:39:16.940]  That's what the judicial judgment is for.
[01:39:16.940 --> 01:39:24.940]  So Ken, you're saying we take the right to travel before the federal court and ask them,
[01:39:24.940 --> 01:39:27.940]  do we have a right to travel?
[01:39:27.940 --> 01:39:30.940]  Am I reading that right, Ken?
[01:39:30.940 --> 01:39:39.940]  And to define it specifically, because it seems to be a lot of question about the mode,
[01:39:39.940 --> 01:39:46.940]  whether it's a vehicle, whether it's a horse and carriage, whether it's, you know,
[01:39:46.940 --> 01:39:53.940]  it's all of these terms or names, and that's where it gets very confusing.
[01:39:53.940 --> 01:40:02.940]  I think this is done intentionally. I think that the law, the legislature comes up with a law
[01:40:02.940 --> 01:40:07.940]  and intentionally leave it vague, and then they let it go down to an agency,
[01:40:07.940 --> 01:40:14.940]  and the agency tries to define it or interpret it.
[01:40:14.940 --> 01:40:25.940]  I like that word interpret it, and then that supposedly becomes law afterwards.
[01:40:25.940 --> 01:40:29.940]  Yeah, that is a problem with agencies, with CFRs.
[01:40:29.940 --> 01:40:31.940]  Yes.
[01:40:31.940 --> 01:40:37.940]  CFR, a court can't disturb a ruling by an agency.
[01:40:37.940 --> 01:40:41.940]  But here, I like this idea.
[01:40:41.940 --> 01:40:50.940]  David, what do you think about going to the federal court who doesn't have a dog in the traffic ticket hunt
[01:40:50.940 --> 01:40:59.940]  and asking them to rule on, do I have a right to freedom of locomotion?
[01:40:59.940 --> 01:41:03.940]  Well, my own feeling is that I don't like federal jurisdiction,
[01:41:03.940 --> 01:41:11.940]  and this is not, say, a personality court, so I don't think I'm really good at evaluating the value,
[01:41:11.940 --> 01:41:15.940]  the use or utility of suing a U.S. district court.
[01:41:15.940 --> 01:41:23.940]  My preference is always to have it done in state courts, where the state law applies and not raising several issues,
[01:41:23.940 --> 01:41:33.940]  other than, you know, the first and the last one.
[01:41:33.940 --> 01:41:33.940]  Well, the reason I suggested a federal court is the state court's got a dog in the hunt,
[01:41:33.940 --> 01:41:40.940]  because we're talking about the application of the state transportation code.
[01:41:40.940 --> 01:41:42.940]  But the feds...
[01:41:42.940 --> 01:41:47.940]  Which is controlled by Title 49 of the U.S. Code.
[01:41:47.940 --> 01:41:55.940]  The federal law controls entirely the operation of the state transportation code in every state.
[01:41:55.940 --> 01:41:58.940]  It's completely federally controlled.
[01:41:58.940 --> 01:42:05.940]  And I've reported on a covenants that the State of Tennessee files with the Department of Transportation every year
[01:42:05.940 --> 01:42:12.940]  to get the 78-page document about and to get some $6 million in subsidies.
[01:42:12.940 --> 01:42:23.940]  And the very first sentence says that the Department of Tennessee Highway Control is the sole regulating authority for the transportation
[01:42:23.940 --> 01:42:29.940]  and elsewhere that all the provisions of the Tennessee law comply with the federal law.
[01:42:29.940 --> 01:42:33.940]  So we have federalized transportation laws.
[01:42:33.940 --> 01:42:40.940]  In a way, that's good, because state legal systems often obscure the definitions and how they're obscure and pissed.
[01:42:40.940 --> 01:42:44.940]  They deliberately obfuscate and hide and deceive effectively.
[01:42:44.940 --> 01:42:49.940]  But the federal transportation law is very explicit dealing with transportation.
[01:42:49.940 --> 01:42:53.940]  There's no muddied language there that I could find.
[01:42:53.940 --> 01:43:02.940]  But I would want to stay out of federal court just because it's kind of an alien jurisdiction to us.
[01:43:02.940 --> 01:43:05.940]  Okay, well, I have a lot of experience in the federal court.
[01:43:05.940 --> 01:43:13.940]  So in this case, I'm looking at who doesn't have a lot to lose here.
[01:43:13.940 --> 01:43:23.940]  And the state would lose a lot of revenue because the feds wouldn't because they do interstate commerce.
[01:43:23.940 --> 01:43:29.940]  They only enforce commerce, so they don't care about traffic tickets.
[01:43:29.940 --> 01:43:30.940]  Right.
[01:43:30.940 --> 01:43:38.940]  You get somebody who doesn't have a dog in the hut, he might give you a clean ruling, and if you focus your ruling carefully,
[01:43:38.940 --> 01:43:43.940]  if you don't ask the right question, you don't get the right answer.
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[01:46:49.940 --> 01:46:55.940]  The people have come down from the hills.
[01:46:55.940 --> 01:46:59.940]  Okay, we are back.
[01:46:59.940 --> 01:47:09.940]  Here with our very special guest, David Tulis, and I'm going to pick on David because I won't need that more often.
[01:47:09.940 --> 01:47:12.940]  This has been a very good show.
[01:47:12.940 --> 01:47:20.940]  And what David is doing is it's different and it's not different.
[01:47:20.940 --> 01:47:23.940]  It's a different approach to an old problem.
[01:47:23.940 --> 01:47:34.940]  And in doing this whole show, listening to this, I can't find anything in that notice that's any different from every other state that I've looked at.
[01:47:34.940 --> 01:47:41.940]  This notice, from my perspective, should apply to just about every state I've ever looked at.
[01:47:41.940 --> 01:47:43.940]  David, do you know anything?
[01:47:43.940 --> 01:47:45.940]  Hold on now, Randall.
[01:47:45.940 --> 01:47:46.940]  Yes.
[01:47:46.940 --> 01:47:47.940]  Hold on.
[01:47:47.940 --> 01:47:51.940]  Well, this notice is just, I would say, it's a model.
[01:47:51.940 --> 01:47:57.940]  It is a model of the Constitution, U.S. code, two or three volumes of my state code.
[01:47:57.940 --> 01:48:02.940]  We have 39 volumes in Tennessee code, annotated in the big green volume.
[01:48:02.940 --> 01:48:12.940]  The main title that has the transportation laws, 871 pages in the old edition that I have, I have a slightly old used copy.
[01:48:12.940 --> 01:48:16.940]  The statutes are on the line, of course, unannotated.
[01:48:16.940 --> 01:48:17.940]  It's a model.
[01:48:17.940 --> 01:48:22.940]  One really wouldn't want to use this anywhere except in Tennessee because it quotes Tennessee case.
[01:48:22.940 --> 01:48:25.940]  You want to know your state.
[01:48:25.940 --> 01:48:28.940]  You want to love your state, care about your state, and care about the people.
[01:48:28.940 --> 01:48:36.940]  And the only way you can do that is to know what the people have done and through their representatives and through their judicial branch.
[01:48:36.940 --> 01:48:38.940]  And what does the court of liquor say?
[01:48:38.940 --> 01:48:40.940]  So what I do is I own my material.
[01:48:40.940 --> 01:48:42.940]  I print out court cases.
[01:48:42.940 --> 01:48:44.940]  I print out facts and court cases that I've read.
[01:48:44.940 --> 01:48:46.940]  I mark them all up.
[01:48:46.940 --> 01:48:47.940]  I know them.
[01:48:47.940 --> 01:48:49.940]  I've got highlights on key phrases.
[01:48:49.940 --> 01:48:51.940]  And, you know, I've looked at this with an open mind.
[01:48:51.940 --> 01:48:59.940]  I've not gone at my review as journalist of these laws to prove something with a thesis.
[01:48:59.940 --> 01:49:03.940]  I have a thesis, of course, but I said, let me just see what I can find.
[01:49:03.940 --> 01:49:05.940]  And I went open-minded into the code.
[01:49:05.940 --> 01:49:10.940]  I did a lot of board searches and just reading, wandering around.
[01:49:10.940 --> 01:49:15.940]  And so I had some distillation of all this in here.
[01:49:15.940 --> 01:49:23.940]  And it's got some 20 pages, it's single-face time, but there's a gap between each paragraph and it's readable.
[01:49:23.940 --> 01:49:25.940]  And it's pretty compact.
[01:49:25.940 --> 01:49:29.940]  And let me just see what I'm hoping to have this useful example.
[01:49:29.940 --> 01:49:35.940]  I want people to make notice of their own cities and counties in my state,
[01:49:35.940 --> 01:49:41.940]  starting in the Chattanooga area, which is southeast of Tennessee, in the Bend and the Tennessee River.
[01:49:41.940 --> 01:49:46.940]  And I want people who are oppressed, namely young black men, to say, I know about the notice.
[01:49:46.940 --> 01:49:47.940]  I've got my own copy.
[01:49:47.940 --> 01:49:49.940]  I carry it with me at all times.
[01:49:49.940 --> 01:49:53.940]  And if I come across the copies about to charge me with something, I'll say,
[01:49:53.940 --> 01:49:56.940]  oh, sir, I'm traveling under the administrative notice.
[01:49:56.940 --> 01:49:59.940]  And I'm not making any statement apart from my lawyer.
[01:49:59.940 --> 01:50:02.940]  And then from that point on, you just refuse to say anything.
[01:50:02.940 --> 01:50:04.940]  A person like that doesn't have to know what's in it.
[01:50:04.940 --> 01:50:06.940]  He doesn't really have to know much about it.
[01:50:06.940 --> 01:50:11.940]  But then it's kind of like a magical callous man.
[01:50:11.940 --> 01:50:13.940]  An incantation, you say, in Chattanooga.
[01:50:13.940 --> 01:50:17.940]  Because Chattanooga is under the notice of David Thule.
[01:50:17.940 --> 01:50:20.940]  It's a broadcast term with an investigative lawyer.
[01:50:20.940 --> 01:50:23.940]  I'm a reporter and I write objectives.
[01:50:23.940 --> 01:50:24.940]  But I'll just take sides.
[01:50:24.940 --> 01:50:26.940]  I'm trying to help people.
[01:50:26.940 --> 01:50:29.940]  So to keep on trying to help, you need to understand that it's there for them.
[01:50:29.940 --> 01:50:30.940]  It's a remedy.
[01:50:30.940 --> 01:50:34.940]  It's a racial reconciliation project with a white man trying to help black people first
[01:50:34.940 --> 01:50:37.940]  and first and most oppressed with all the people on the road.
[01:50:37.940 --> 01:50:40.940]  Half of them don't have licenses that are proper.
[01:50:40.940 --> 01:50:44.940]  Probably 60% of black people who don't can't afford insurance,
[01:50:44.940 --> 01:50:48.940]  which they allegedly supposed to have to use their car.
[01:50:48.940 --> 01:50:53.940]  And I wanted to be available printed out.
[01:50:53.940 --> 01:50:58.940]  And if a poor man working in Chattanooga has a copy,
[01:50:58.940 --> 01:50:59.940]  it's a courtesy copy.
[01:50:59.940 --> 01:51:03.940]  If it's Chattanooga's copy, it stops and is already under notice by law.
[01:51:03.940 --> 01:51:07.940]  He's been under notice since February 20 of 2018.
[01:51:07.940 --> 01:51:09.940]  And whether he knows the guy or not doesn't matter.
[01:51:09.940 --> 01:51:13.940]  He's under imputed knowledge of knowing what's in there.
[01:51:13.940 --> 01:51:16.940]  Because his employer was notified and, of course,
[01:51:16.940 --> 01:51:19.940]  noticed to the principal as what?
[01:51:19.940 --> 01:51:21.940]  Rainbow.
[01:51:21.940 --> 01:51:26.940]  Notice to the agent is noticed to the principal.
[01:51:26.940 --> 01:51:27.940]  And vice versa.
[01:51:27.940 --> 01:51:34.940]  So if I've notified the city council in a public meeting of this problem in the law,
[01:51:34.940 --> 01:51:38.940]  this problem with city authorities violating the statute,
[01:51:38.940 --> 01:51:41.940]  well, he knows too, by law he knows.
[01:51:41.940 --> 01:51:46.940]  And so the courtesy copy is the one that his victim shows him.
[01:51:46.940 --> 01:51:47.940]  And he refuses to answer questions.
[01:51:47.940 --> 01:51:49.940]  So what's the cop going to do?
[01:51:49.940 --> 01:51:53.940]  And if you're in a small town, the cops all know about this.
[01:51:53.940 --> 01:51:56.940]  And if you're in a small county, everybody knows about what you've done.
[01:51:56.940 --> 01:52:00.940]  If you're the rule of law radio listener,
[01:52:00.940 --> 01:52:04.940]  and you've done this in your town, they all eventually know.
[01:52:04.940 --> 01:52:09.940]  And so you have, and that was with the notice down down in public,
[01:52:09.940 --> 01:52:11.940]  you have leverage.
[01:52:11.940 --> 01:52:15.940]  It's kind of a fulcrum, a point that you can lift a huge weight
[01:52:15.940 --> 01:52:17.940]  by just pressing down with your hands.
[01:52:17.940 --> 01:52:19.940]  You can lift a huge weight.
[01:52:19.940 --> 01:52:20.940]  And it's a threat.
[01:52:20.940 --> 01:52:24.940]  The threat is if you arrest me, I'll use this as my defense,
[01:52:24.940 --> 01:52:28.940]  that you arrested me in bad faith, which means that's a false arrest.
[01:52:28.940 --> 01:52:29.940]  That's a tort.
[01:52:29.940 --> 01:52:33.940]  That violates the oppression statute in Tennessee and other states.
[01:52:33.940 --> 01:52:36.940]  It's also civil law.
[01:52:36.940 --> 01:52:38.940]  And I'm going to sue you for $25,000.
[01:52:38.940 --> 01:52:40.940]  You personally use the officer.
[01:52:40.940 --> 01:52:41.940]  Let me ask you this.
[01:52:41.940 --> 01:52:45.940]  Do you think the police department will, in care of its food officer,
[01:52:45.940 --> 01:52:50.940]  not talk with you about reform in your city or your town?
[01:52:50.940 --> 01:52:51.940]  I think the chief will.
[01:52:51.940 --> 01:52:54.940]  I think the mayor wants to hear about reform.
[01:52:54.940 --> 01:52:59.940]  This poor officer is being strung out by you less angling by the employer
[01:52:59.940 --> 01:53:03.940]  and is facing a $25,000 humiliation in your bad faith claim,
[01:53:03.940 --> 01:53:06.940]  the oppression claim, against him.
[01:53:06.940 --> 01:53:07.940]  You're going to get some reform.
[01:53:07.940 --> 01:53:11.940]  You're going to get at least a fair consideration of the reform that's needed.
[01:53:11.940 --> 01:53:13.940]  And I would say that's a question.
[01:53:13.940 --> 01:53:17.940]  The traffic stop protocol has to have a new question at the very beginning.
[01:53:17.940 --> 01:53:21.940]  Something like, ma'am or sir, are you involved in commercial use of the road for hire
[01:53:21.940 --> 01:53:23.940]  and for gains right now?
[01:53:23.940 --> 01:53:28.940]  And if the answer is no, the cop says, well, have a safe day, ma'am.
[01:53:28.940 --> 01:53:31.940]  I notice you were traveling a little faster than the advisory speed limit.
[01:53:31.940 --> 01:53:35.940]  So just ask for your safety that we recommend that you follow that.
[01:53:35.940 --> 01:53:36.940]  Have a great day.
[01:53:36.940 --> 01:53:37.940]  Have a safe travel.
[01:53:37.940 --> 01:53:38.940]  That's it.
[01:53:38.940 --> 01:53:43.940]  If she says yes, then the cop can say, may I see your license,
[01:53:43.940 --> 01:53:47.940]  your proof of registration and your insurance because he has police power
[01:53:47.940 --> 01:53:49.940]  widely applied upon her.
[01:53:49.940 --> 01:53:51.940]  And I want common people to take this up on their own.
[01:53:51.940 --> 01:53:53.940]  And they don't even have to know details.
[01:53:53.940 --> 01:53:56.940]  They can do it without knowing the details, I think.
[01:53:56.940 --> 01:53:59.940]  This is a simple concept.
[01:53:59.940 --> 01:54:05.940]  I've been looking at the, to have the document and I've been listening to your presentation.
[01:54:05.940 --> 01:54:14.940]  And the differences between Tennessee and other states statutorily are almost non-existent.
[01:54:14.940 --> 01:54:21.940]  So anyone in another state could take this document and look at the cases and codes
[01:54:21.940 --> 01:54:27.940]  that are given here and then go into Google or something and put in the case.
[01:54:27.940 --> 01:54:30.940]  And then next to it, put your state.
[01:54:30.940 --> 01:54:38.940]  And very often that will give you a case from your state that cites this case.
[01:54:38.940 --> 01:54:43.940]  And you'll be able to easily convert the law to whatever state you're in.
[01:54:43.940 --> 01:54:47.940]  There's a lot, Randall, there are limits on Google, even Google Scholar.
[01:54:47.940 --> 01:54:52.940]  So the listener will want to go to his local community college and have Lexis,
[01:54:52.940 --> 01:54:56.940]  Nexus access to the Lexis database.
[01:54:56.940 --> 01:55:02.940]  And all the cases from your state will come up, all interlinked to statute, interlinked to cases.
[01:55:02.940 --> 01:55:08.940]  And that's a very fruitful and very delightful project, if you ask me.
[01:55:08.940 --> 01:55:10.940]  I wish I had more time to do that.
[01:55:10.940 --> 01:55:16.940]  But it needs to be entirely state specific and quote as little foreign law as possible.
[01:55:16.940 --> 01:55:21.940]  Make as many state cases as you can to show that the intent of the law,
[01:55:21.940 --> 01:55:25.940]  the intent of the power applied by the General Assembly upon the economy,
[01:55:25.940 --> 01:55:28.940]  is upon the economy, not upon the people.
[01:55:28.940 --> 01:55:32.940]  And in that way, once your notice is secured, it can't be revived.
[01:55:32.940 --> 01:55:33.940]  There's nothing to revive.
[01:55:33.940 --> 01:55:35.940]  There's no way anybody could revive what I've written,
[01:55:35.940 --> 01:55:40.940]  because it's all simply what the law says, what the definitions are.
[01:55:40.940 --> 01:55:43.940]  And the federal states, there's no way around it.
[01:55:43.940 --> 01:55:45.940]  And so we have them in a box.
[01:55:45.940 --> 01:55:48.940]  We have them, you know, removing the tectonic plates underneath them.
[01:55:48.940 --> 01:55:51.940]  We're putting, we're having the line in the street,
[01:55:51.940 --> 01:55:55.940]  we're changing the ground, we're making the line, you know, the yellow line down the middle of the street,
[01:55:55.940 --> 01:55:58.940]  not line up anymore, because there's a crack going down the middle.
[01:55:58.940 --> 01:55:59.940]  And that's the crack.
[01:55:59.940 --> 01:56:04.940]  The listener of this show does his state eventually, but in his town, burns.
[01:56:04.940 --> 01:56:08.940]  First, in the listener's own town, by himself, all by himself.
[01:56:08.940 --> 01:56:12.940]  Totally loved.
[01:56:12.940 --> 01:56:22.940]  So, but the underlying key is it's same everywhere.
[01:56:22.940 --> 01:56:25.940]  And the idea, the structure of this thing will lend itself to everyone.
[01:56:25.940 --> 01:56:33.940]  And the idea of putting the policeman himself on notice.
[01:56:33.940 --> 01:56:41.940]  If we're going to fix this thing, we'll fix it with the policeman on the street.
[01:56:41.940 --> 01:56:45.940]  Yeah, the policeman will be, go ahead.
[01:56:45.940 --> 01:56:53.940]  I guess in summary, if we give the policeman an opportunity, he will help us fix it.
[01:56:53.940 --> 01:57:00.940]  But in order to give him that opportunity, we may have to give him a little kick in the rear.
[01:57:00.940 --> 01:57:10.940]  We sting him a little bit and better to sting him over following policy than getting outside of policy.
[01:57:10.940 --> 01:57:13.940]  There's an impression that the police are all bad guys.
[01:57:13.940 --> 01:57:19.940]  Well, there are two or three of them out there that are bad guys, and they give all the rest a bad name.
[01:57:19.940 --> 01:57:25.940]  Well, I think Randall, I think, you know what I like to say, it's kind of a joke.
[01:57:25.940 --> 01:57:38.940]  I'll say the band cop in our listener's town, the band cop gives the other 10% a bad name, right?
[01:57:38.940 --> 01:57:43.940]  Ouch.
[01:57:43.940 --> 01:57:46.940]  But you're right.
[01:57:46.940 --> 01:57:49.940]  And you know, this is how Christianity was. Christianity was bottom up.
[01:57:49.940 --> 01:58:00.940]  It was common people getting the gospel of John back in the time of the Roman Catholic hegemony over Europe, where no one had the word at all.
[01:58:00.940 --> 01:58:06.940]  We don't miss that.
[01:58:06.940 --> 01:58:10.940]  Wait a minute. We've lost.
[01:58:10.940 --> 01:58:14.940]  Okay, we've lost David. Oh, David.
[01:58:14.940 --> 01:58:21.940]  I'm sorry. David's call dropped off and we're about at the end of the show.
[01:58:21.940 --> 01:58:25.940]  I do appreciate David. Hold on just.
[01:58:25.940 --> 01:58:28.940]  We're out of time.
[01:58:28.940 --> 01:58:31.940]  He's still talking, but he's not going out on the air.
[01:58:31.940 --> 01:58:38.940]  I'm going to try to get him back. I'm hoping to have another show that will be a little more filled with detail.
[01:58:38.940 --> 01:58:49.940]  Thank you all for listening and good night.
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