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[00:41.400 --> 00:52.520]  Jane History, the year 1916, the Preparedness Day bombing, a time suitcase bomb, was detonated on
[00:52.520 --> 00:58.280]  Market Street in San Francisco during the World War I Preparedness Day Parade, killing 10 and
[00:58.280 --> 01:08.400]  injuring 40. Today in History. In recent news, since Governor Greg Abbott signed House Bill 1325,
[01:08.400 --> 01:13.160]  legalizing HEPA to test his law back in June, county prosecutors around the state, including
[01:13.160 --> 01:17.480]  Houston, Austin, and San Antonio, have been dropping marijuana possession charges and even
[01:17.480 --> 01:21.880]  refusing to file new ones since they are stipulating that they do not have the time or the
[01:21.880 --> 01:26.840]  laboratory equipment to test the ear for THC. Margaret Moore, the Travis County District
[01:26.840 --> 01:30.840]  Attorney, announced earlier this month that she was dismissing 32 felony possession and
[01:30.840 --> 01:35.240]  delivery of marijuana cases because of the law. Mr. Abbott and other state officials,
[01:35.240 --> 01:39.280]  including the Attorney General, stipulated in a letter that county district attorneys back
[01:39.280 --> 01:44.440]  on Thursday that marijuana has not been decriminalized in Texas and that these actions demonstrate
[01:44.440 --> 01:50.440]  a misunderstanding of how HB 1325 works, as well as other cities, too, like the district
[01:50.440 --> 01:56.920]  attorney in El Paso, Cayma Esparza, a Democrat who also stated earlier this month that the law,
[01:56.920 --> 02:02.560]  quote, will not have an effect on the prosecution of marijuana cases in El Paso. However, the
[02:02.560 --> 02:07.240]  issue was succinctly summarized by Mr. Brandon Ball, an assistant public defender in Harris
[02:07.240 --> 02:11.280]  County, who stated that, quote, the law is constantly changing on what makes something
[02:11.280 --> 02:15.280]  illegal based on its chemical makeup. It's important that if someone is charged with
[02:15.280 --> 02:22.680]  something, the test matches what they're charged with.
[02:22.680 --> 02:27.760]  A paper by Tulane University identified a five and a half inch American pocket shark as the
[02:27.760 --> 02:32.800]  first of its kind in the Gulf of Mexico, the specimen being only the second pocket shark
[02:32.800 --> 02:38.440]  ever captured or recorded with the other one being found way back in 1979 in the East Pacific
[02:38.440 --> 02:43.120]  Ocean. According to the university paper, the shark secretes a luminous fluid from a
[02:43.120 --> 02:49.720]  gland near its front fins for the purposes hypothesized to lure and prey who may be drawn
[02:49.720 --> 03:05.760]  into the glow. This is Book Roadie with your lowdown for July 22, 2019.
[03:05.760 --> 03:25.760]  Yeah. Well, I received my remedy today. Came in the box just like they say. I accepted
[03:25.760 --> 03:35.000]  it for fire right away. It's not sooner. Not later. We are originators. And I'm not
[03:35.000 --> 03:41.520]  sure. Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, rule of law radio on this Friday, the 27th day
[03:41.520 --> 03:53.440]  of September, 2019. And with our special guests, Don and Amy Terry. And on the break, we wanted
[03:53.440 --> 03:58.480]  to go to what they did at the different court dates.
[03:58.480 --> 04:07.040]  Yes. Well, actually, in every court date that they had, there was never a judge present.
[04:07.040 --> 04:13.640]  And they were always doing the plea bargaining. And he was, the judge was behind the scene.
[04:13.640 --> 04:21.280]  And the lawyers were coming to the room making deals. So this lawyer that was so-called appointed
[04:21.280 --> 04:28.520]  to Don. And really at the point legally, he was dismissed because he was only present
[04:28.520 --> 04:33.760]  for the psychological evaluation for Don. And the order said that they'd be finished
[04:33.760 --> 04:40.960]  with this lawyer when the order came back, when the evaluation came back. And it came
[04:40.960 --> 04:47.600]  back so this guy was no longer Don's lawyer. So he comes to Don and presents himself as
[04:47.600 --> 04:58.480]  if he is a go-between for the judge and Don. And they offer Don three different pleas.
[04:58.480 --> 05:07.160]  And the last plea is the plea of best interest. And they told him, if you take the charge
[05:07.160 --> 05:11.040]  of dispelling me, we'll let you go.
[05:11.040 --> 05:18.400]  Yeah, basically pled guilty and they'll just let me walk. And I turned it down. I said,
[05:18.400 --> 05:22.320]  there's no way I'm going to do that. I said it very loud, too. I'm not going to lie because
[05:22.320 --> 05:25.960]  two police officers lied.
[05:25.960 --> 05:27.760]  That was their last ditch effort.
[05:27.760 --> 05:28.760]  That was it.
[05:28.760 --> 05:29.760]  Yeah.
[05:29.760 --> 05:34.960]  They had nothing. And then what was the other court date? It was going to talk about Don.
[05:34.960 --> 05:35.960]  The last one.
[05:35.960 --> 05:40.840]  That was really it. That was the only one. And the judge comes out, calls a roll and leaves.
[05:40.840 --> 05:46.160]  And when he called my name, I was about to say something, but something told me to just
[05:46.160 --> 05:51.200]  shut up. And he just looked right at me and said, he's here. I only met him once. He knew
[05:51.200 --> 05:56.680]  who I was.
[05:56.680 --> 06:03.320]  So what was the, okay, at least the judge made an appearance. If the judge hadn't made
[06:03.320 --> 06:11.280]  an appearance, you know, I went into South Lake and over to help a guy with a ticket
[06:11.280 --> 06:16.920]  and they had summoned them to be there, 58 people, and they sent them all in to talk
[06:16.920 --> 06:19.800]  to a lawyer.
[06:19.800 --> 06:24.760]  And so when the guy I was helping was called, I started to go in with him. And the guy said,
[06:24.760 --> 06:25.760]  you can't go in there.
[06:25.760 --> 06:30.960]  I said, sure, again, I'm his buddy here. I'm his witness. It is paralegal. He said, oh,
[06:30.960 --> 06:36.440]  no, no, you can't go in there. I said, well, is the judge in there? He said, well, no,
[06:36.440 --> 06:44.080]  the prosecutor's in there. Well, is the judge in the building? He said, well, no, just a
[06:44.080 --> 06:45.080]  prosecutor.
[06:45.080 --> 06:48.640]  Well, in that case, you need to go in there and arrest the prosecutor for impersonating
[06:48.640 --> 06:50.840]  a judicial officer.
[06:50.840 --> 06:59.440]  He said, I need to call my sergeant. I said, you're smarter than you look. But they knew
[06:59.440 --> 07:03.000]  who I was already.
[07:03.000 --> 07:10.920]  After that hearing, I went to the JP and filed 58 felony charges of impersonating a judicial
[07:10.920 --> 07:17.480]  officer against this brand new lawyer. She just got out of law school.
[07:17.480 --> 07:29.120]  Oh, that was so much fun. But since the judge actually showed up, you don't have that particular
[07:29.120 --> 07:39.880]  charge. I'm hoping the point I'm making is you got so everything they do, you have the
[07:39.880 --> 07:46.240]  same authority they do. Now they've got to do everything right. You can hammer them for
[07:46.240 --> 07:48.240]  every step.
[07:48.240 --> 07:58.120]  And when you didn't take that deal and you didn't take that deal loudly, no doubt they
[07:58.120 --> 08:04.680]  went to that lawyer and told him to do something so we can dismiss this case.
[08:04.680 --> 08:10.680]  So this guy's not going to take a deal and we're running out of time. And it's longer
[08:10.680 --> 08:14.120]  re-holding the worst he's going to get for us.
[08:14.120 --> 08:22.640]  They came after him and they pulled this kind of crap on him for two and a half years. He
[08:22.640 --> 08:29.720]  wasn't in jail on this time, but when they got to the courthouse steps, the lawyers made
[08:29.720 --> 08:33.640]  him an offer and he told them to go scratch.
[08:33.640 --> 08:43.440]  They walked into the courtroom, told the judge, we moved to dismiss the case. No arguments,
[08:43.440 --> 08:48.120]  no reason, they just moved to dismiss and walked out.
[08:48.120 --> 08:54.080]  They will hammer you until you get right to the courthouse door and then if you stand
[08:54.080 --> 09:04.640]  up to them, they knuckle under and most people don't realize how hard this is.
[09:04.640 --> 09:12.200]  When they prosecuted me after 27 days in solitary confinement, you know, I consider that for
[09:12.200 --> 09:19.280]  me was a great opportunity. They sentenced me to a year in jail, $10,000 fine and after
[09:19.280 --> 09:23.960]  27 days in solitary, they wouldn't let me out in the population. They did not want me
[09:23.960 --> 09:26.160]  talking to them.
[09:26.160 --> 09:31.280]  I looked in that little stainless steel mirror they had there and I said to myself, self,
[09:31.280 --> 09:36.640]  you told the jury that at the end of the day, they could do whatever. It wouldn't make
[09:36.640 --> 09:44.880]  any difference. I was here to protect the rights my twin brother gave his life for.
[09:44.880 --> 09:51.040]  It makes no difference what you do when you get done. I'm still going to be here.
[09:51.040 --> 09:56.200]  I looked in the mirror and I said, you told the jury to do their worst and they threw
[09:56.200 --> 10:01.080]  the book at you. So, did you mean it?
[10:01.080 --> 10:11.040]  I thought a while and darn right I meant it. I think that's what that hearing was for so
[10:11.040 --> 10:20.720]  I could get to prove myself to myself and that was of great value. Don has certainly
[10:20.720 --> 10:27.840]  proved himself. You're going to go on that list, Don. Do not detain.
[10:27.840 --> 10:32.160]  I have some.
[10:32.160 --> 10:38.480]  You'll be like, what happened to me? A sheriff's deputy come to me and said, would you do the
[10:38.480 --> 10:43.840]  sheriff? I said, I hadn't done anything to him lately. Why? Well, we had roll call this
[10:43.840 --> 10:48.160]  morning and the sheriff asked who here knew Randy Kelton. About half of us raised her
[10:48.160 --> 10:57.040]  hand. He said, look, you are not to stop him. You are not to cite him and whatever you
[10:57.040 --> 11:06.120]  do, don't put that SOB in my jail. What? I feel disparaged.
[11:06.120 --> 11:08.800]  What did I do?
[11:08.800 --> 11:12.920]  We need a convenience store and Bobby Jack Crews been listening to his scanner. What
[11:12.920 --> 11:17.040]  did you do that sheriff's deputy this morning? I didn't do anything to him. He stopped me
[11:17.040 --> 11:25.080]  for 17 to 60 and no plates on my goose neck trailer. He gave me a warning ticket and told
[11:25.080 --> 11:31.320]  me to slow down. He said, well, he called you in and the dispatcher said, you got Randy
[11:31.320 --> 11:38.280]  Kelton. He said, well, yeah, dude, don't you dare give him no tickets.
[11:38.280 --> 11:46.200]  You're going to be on that list. There just aren't enough people who are able to withstand
[11:46.200 --> 11:52.000]  him this long. And the only reason I can do it is because God is in my life. It was God
[11:52.000 --> 12:01.480]  that gave me the strength. Well, he definitely gave it to you because you had it. Most people
[12:01.480 --> 12:10.080]  out there can't really appreciate how hard this is. I was on the job for a month. That
[12:10.080 --> 12:11.080]  was nothing.
[12:11.080 --> 12:20.440]  Well, think about it. They kept him for 10 months. I had no income whatsoever and they
[12:20.440 --> 12:29.600]  held him so he couldn't work. And they put him in the ice section. He wasn't allowed.
[12:29.600 --> 12:38.720]  They could only see people on a monitor. They, oh, get this. We sent him. We had to serve
[12:38.720 --> 12:45.640]  him. We put him to the appellate court. We had to serve him with the same thing we served
[12:45.640 --> 12:52.360]  everybody else with, certificate of service. They wrote on an envelope when I sent it to
[12:52.360 --> 12:58.720]  them, not allowed legal papers. The sheriff wrote that.
[12:58.720 --> 13:01.760]  All of this will come back to haunt them.
[13:01.760 --> 13:10.320]  Yes, it will. And what I was telling you before that wasn't really made clear is that lawyer
[13:10.320 --> 13:18.160]  that really was speaking for the judge, when Don went to that little municipal court that
[13:18.160 --> 13:25.800]  originally wrote the ticket that caused him all this trouble, that lawyer showed up at
[13:25.800 --> 13:26.800]  that little dinky.
[13:26.800 --> 13:27.800]  There he was.
[13:27.800 --> 13:33.040]  He could have knocked me over. I knew something was up when I saw him at that municipal court.
[13:33.040 --> 13:34.040]  Something was up.
[13:34.040 --> 13:35.040]  Yes.
[13:35.040 --> 13:42.840]  He was advising Don to plead guilty and he would get off and everything he'd forgotten
[13:42.840 --> 13:47.240]  with the 14, with the 10 months that he was in jail.
[13:47.240 --> 13:51.800]  David's control. That's exactly what it was.
[13:51.800 --> 13:56.400]  You need to bar grieve that lawyer.
[13:56.400 --> 13:59.920]  And here's something funny. I go up to him and I said, I didn't realize that's what
[13:59.920 --> 14:03.120]  he said. I go up to him and I said, well, why don't you let me talk to Don? Maybe I
[14:03.120 --> 14:05.560]  can take him. Maybe he'll plead.
[14:05.560 --> 14:10.840]  So I'm bringing Don out thinking, well, plead not guilty and pay the fine and then we'll
[14:10.840 --> 14:12.440]  take care of it.
[14:12.440 --> 14:17.480]  And that guy comes up and he goes, no, he's got to plead guilty. And I said, no way, no,
[14:17.480 --> 14:18.480]  he's pleading guilty.
[14:18.480 --> 14:25.440]  And Don said, I'm not lying. And he throws up his hands and walks away. Then he goes
[14:25.440 --> 14:30.680]  to the judge. He hands him a paper and he said, here, you decide what to do. So he gave
[14:30.680 --> 14:34.720]  him two choices, how to treat Don when he came up in front of him.
[14:34.720 --> 14:37.760]  Okay. You want to see that paper?
[14:37.760 --> 14:40.200]  Yeah, I really do.
[14:40.200 --> 14:49.080]  Oh, yeah. Because that lawyer was not there representing you. Oh, no. So you want to know
[14:49.080 --> 14:52.960]  what was going on between the judge and this lawyer?
[14:52.960 --> 14:53.960]  Yeah.
[14:53.960 --> 14:59.800]  Yeah. I think they were telling the city, this guy's about to drop the sky on all of
[14:59.800 --> 15:08.760]  us. So you can expect the city to try to pull some shenanigans. So when I go down to put,
[15:08.760 --> 15:19.920]  I've already asked the clerk to talk to the prosecutor and the judge to get me a 10 minute
[15:19.920 --> 15:26.200]  YouTube interview with him. Because we're going to talk about him on the air. And if
[15:26.200 --> 15:33.720]  we are likely to say something disparaging, we owe it to them to give them opportunity
[15:33.720 --> 15:45.360]  to rebut. So that always makes them crazy. So when I go back down there, I'm sure they're
[15:45.360 --> 15:52.600]  going to decline my interview and I'll do some song and dance and seltzer down your
[15:52.600 --> 15:53.600]  pants.
[15:53.600 --> 16:01.200]  Well, Don gave them a popper's form and told them he had no money because he'd been in
[16:01.200 --> 16:12.000]  jail for 10 months because of the traffic. Their policeman wrote to Don and I'm Don
[16:12.000 --> 16:17.280]  and the judge says, well, I don't know anything about that. And I don't know anything about
[16:17.280 --> 16:30.000]  the popper's form. So no. And they gave them a $1,000 cash fund and held them in prison
[16:30.000 --> 16:33.000]  for three more days.
[16:33.000 --> 16:47.840]  Tries event, $1,600 bucks a minute. We'll see how that works out for them. Okay, Felice,
[16:47.840 --> 16:57.520]  I want to see if you have a question on point, but I'll make sure I get you. We'll be right
[16:57.520 --> 17:04.000]  back.
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[19:24.440 --> 19:45.560]  Okay, we're back. Randy Kelton, rule of law radio here with Don Terry. Amy dropped off.
[19:45.560 --> 19:55.000]  I'm going to go to Felice. Felice, I know that's not the right name. It's the right
[19:55.000 --> 20:00.880]  last name. The first name is Gerald and it's a self of my son who I've been calling in
[20:00.880 --> 20:08.360]  Joshua. So you're at the right pew. Okay, I knew it was wrong and I couldn't pull out
[20:08.360 --> 20:21.280]  the other name. Okay. Did you have something on point? No, I'm not pushing you to. Just
[20:21.280 --> 20:27.840]  if you did, it'd be nice. But what do you have for us? Well, I have several issues.
[20:27.840 --> 20:37.840]  The most current one is that I had filed a complaint with the American Arbitration Association
[20:37.840 --> 20:45.280]  based on an arbitration clause and a general contracting contract. And we were four months
[20:45.280 --> 20:59.160]  into it. And excuse me, the other party at the last minute hired an attorney. And three
[20:59.160 --> 21:11.400]  days before the final hearing, he filed for a preliminary injunction in joining the AAA
[21:11.400 --> 21:22.400]  claiming that the homeowner's Consumer Protection Act is a governing authority which they are.
[21:22.400 --> 21:28.800]  This was a commercial property, commercial retail. That being said, I went to the hearing.
[21:28.800 --> 21:35.600]  It was in the court of commonplace here in Pennsylvania. And I went there to appear on
[21:35.600 --> 21:44.880]  behalf of the corporation and also a sole proprietorship was involved.
[21:44.880 --> 21:52.600]  Can you do that, not being a lawyer? Or are you a lawyer? That was the first thing he
[21:52.600 --> 22:02.400]  said to me. Corporations... Well, that's another interesting point. In Pennsylvania,
[22:02.400 --> 22:13.800]  they allow anyone authorized by a corporation to represent them at the magisterial court
[22:13.800 --> 22:23.960]  level. But for some reason, and this is befuddling me, they will not allow you to represent a
[22:23.960 --> 22:27.920]  corporation at any higher court.
[22:27.920 --> 22:38.160]  Okay. This is similar in most states. But in most states, it's only an eviction, a petition
[22:38.160 --> 22:45.840]  for possession where they will allow a non-lawyer to stand in. And this is so you've got a manager
[22:45.840 --> 22:52.080]  of an apartment complex and they've got somebody that hasn't paid their rent. They don't have
[22:52.080 --> 22:57.680]  to hire a lawyer to come in and get an eviction order for the rent pair. They can get the
[22:57.680 --> 23:07.600]  manager to do that. It costs the apartment complex so much money to pay the lawyer that
[23:07.600 --> 23:14.960]  they would have to increase the rents to cover this. And so they allow this one exception.
[23:14.960 --> 23:26.000]  Well, I understand that. And I researched the law and it's relative to allowing... They
[23:26.000 --> 23:33.720]  have an actual authorization form to be signed at the magisterial level. And you can go in
[23:33.720 --> 23:42.400]  and represent the company for any matter, not just eviction, but for any matter whatsoever.
[23:42.400 --> 23:48.520]  So that's the part that befuddles me, that in the one court level in Pennsylvania, they'll
[23:48.520 --> 24:00.160]  allow an individual to represent a corporation. But then at another level, they won't. But
[24:00.160 --> 24:05.440]  moving on, I went to the hearing and those were the first words out of the judge's mouth,
[24:05.440 --> 24:14.640]  are you an attorney? And I said no. And I asked him if I can approach and he said, no,
[24:14.640 --> 24:26.840]  stand back. And I started to hand him, I had a motion to dismiss based on the facts of
[24:26.840 --> 24:36.720]  the law, which were that the arbitration clause and the arbitrator has jurisdiction over this
[24:36.720 --> 24:46.280]  dispute. And I couldn't get two words out of my mouth when he told me to shut up. And
[24:46.280 --> 24:56.640]  after that, I kept trying to talk and he told me not very nicely to sit down and shut
[24:56.640 --> 25:11.760]  up. Then he just went on to proceed, with the proceedings, as if I wasn't even there.
[25:11.760 --> 25:19.480]  And that's when I stood up and I just told him, I'm not getting a fair hearing here.
[25:19.480 --> 25:28.040]  And there's no way I'm going to participate in this, you know, my right of due process
[25:28.040 --> 25:38.680]  of being violated. And he very arrogantly said goodbye. So I have another hearing coming
[25:38.680 --> 25:46.920]  up. He issued the preliminary injunction. And the hearing at the American Arbitration
[25:46.920 --> 25:55.760]  Association was canceled. And the hearing on the whole matter of jurisdiction is going
[25:55.760 --> 26:02.600]  to be on October 10. And I've just been... Okay, okay, hold on, hold on. The hearing
[26:02.600 --> 26:08.280]  on the matter of jurisdiction, has someone filed a challenge subject matter jurisdiction?
[26:08.280 --> 26:20.840]  No, these are the... No, sir. Those are the things I'm wrestling with right now. My whole
[26:20.840 --> 26:28.920]  thought process was to get this thing bumped back to the AAA. And I felt that the motion
[26:28.920 --> 26:33.400]  to dismiss based on the fact of the law that I had put together was sufficient.
[26:33.400 --> 26:39.080]  Okay, did the... Did you file this document with the court?
[26:39.080 --> 26:45.920]  Yes, I did. I got a stamp from the court. Okay, hold on, hold on. Did this document
[26:45.920 --> 26:52.440]  state that the arbitrator had jurisdiction and not this court?
[26:52.440 --> 26:57.240]  Yes, it did. Filed criminally against the judge?
[26:57.240 --> 27:07.320]  Well... For impersonating a judicial officer, you had a document that challenges the jurisdiction
[27:07.320 --> 27:15.240]  does not have to be titled a challenge to jurisdiction. A document is what it is without
[27:15.240 --> 27:23.120]  regard to how it's titled. If that document challenged the jurisdiction, that was a threshold
[27:23.120 --> 27:31.200]  issue, the judge had to hear that issue first. Did he address jurisdiction?
[27:31.200 --> 27:41.400]  Well, again, the document was filed with the propventary and... I don't even know if it...
[27:41.400 --> 27:46.440]  Okay, for those of you not in Pennsylvania, in Pennsylvania, what would be equal to an
[27:46.440 --> 27:53.560]  account to a county court, a county clerk in Pennsylvania is called a propventary.
[27:53.560 --> 28:04.440]  Propventary, okay. Yeah, and like I said, it obviously was not heard because the order
[28:04.440 --> 28:14.000]  came out for this October 10th hearing. So... And what I'm wrestling with is this. I can
[28:14.000 --> 28:22.920]  hire an attorney and pay... Wait, wait, wait. Do you have... Okay, legally you have standing
[28:22.920 --> 28:29.920]  to be there? Legally, do I have to stand? Yeah.
[28:29.920 --> 28:37.120]  You indicated that in this court, a non-lawyer could stand for the corporation.
[28:37.120 --> 28:43.920]  No, no. In the magisterial courts, this is a court of common please, the next level
[28:43.920 --> 28:49.360]  of... Oh, okay. Okay, that was... I was hearing you say the two of them and it wasn't... There's
[28:49.360 --> 28:55.040]  a distinction I wasn't really clear on in Pennsylvania law. It's been about 10 years
[28:55.040 --> 29:06.320]  since I've been to Pennsylvania. I was up there in intercourse helping some... It really
[29:06.320 --> 29:12.520]  is intercourse. What do you call it? The guy was a black bumper in the night. He was not
[29:12.520 --> 29:22.040]  an Amish, but one of the guys that I was working with, Mr. Fisher, he was from Blue Wall, which
[29:22.040 --> 29:25.840]  is about five miles down a road from intercourse. Right.
[29:25.840 --> 29:34.520]  They got great names up there. Yeah, they do. I live in a town you can't even pronounce
[29:34.520 --> 29:43.040]  or spell, but now... So my point being, not having standing according to this particular
[29:43.040 --> 29:51.000]  judge at the court of common please, my thought process was to hire an attorney and have him
[29:51.000 --> 29:56.040]  file my motion to dismiss to get this thing kicked back on the 10th. Yes.
[29:56.040 --> 30:06.640]  Yeah. Rewrite that motion as in... Keep your voice down. The government now has Russian
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[33:23.720 --> 33:53.680]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Ruvila Radio here with Don Terry and
[33:53.680 --> 33:56.680]  we're talking to Jerry in Pennsylvania.
[33:56.680 --> 34:10.480]  Well, I guess my question is your guys take on the fact that, you know, which battle do
[34:10.480 --> 34:25.800]  I choose? I'm not sure I can get any place with the court of common pleas relative to
[34:25.800 --> 34:28.360]  any motion, even the jurisdictional one.
[34:28.360 --> 34:33.400]  No, wait a minute. That may not be the case.
[34:33.400 --> 34:34.400]  Okay.
[34:34.400 --> 34:43.800]  You genuinely did not have standing in that hearing. And the judge was right. He could
[34:43.800 --> 34:52.520]  not listen to you. And if you kept trying, did he ever threaten you with contempt? He
[34:52.520 --> 34:57.160]  didn't throw you out of the courtroom. Did he threaten you with contempt?
[34:57.160 --> 35:06.600]  No, he did not. There is a slight quirk to this in that the two companies we have, basically
[35:06.600 --> 35:13.040]  one is sole proprietorship, which is the one who signed the contract, fictitious name Keystone
[35:13.040 --> 35:26.080]  General Contractors. And that's mine. But the attorney cleverly named in the suit the
[35:26.080 --> 35:37.840]  consumer company, Keystone Home Services Inc. and claimed that it was doing business as
[35:37.840 --> 35:51.080]  Keystone General Contracting. And I'm assuming he did that purposely for the outcome of getting
[35:51.080 --> 35:57.920]  rid of me as far as standing in front of the judge. And I tried to explain this to the
[35:57.920 --> 36:07.000]  judge. And again, unceremoniously, he, you know, again told me to shut up and sit down.
[36:07.000 --> 36:14.080]  He would not accept my explanation. I gave the form to the opposing attorney and the
[36:14.080 --> 36:18.640]  judge says, the judge asked him, what did it say? Well, he said, this is a form that
[36:18.640 --> 36:23.000]  they used in the lower courts. He didn't tell them that the one was a sole proprietorship.
[36:23.000 --> 36:30.440]  He just said, these are the forms that are used in the lower courts for authorization.
[36:30.440 --> 36:45.960]  So my concern is, though, that again, what battle do I take on if I'm faced with battling
[36:45.960 --> 36:59.320]  standing as well as the... How critical will the rulings be to your ability to function
[36:59.320 --> 37:08.120]  in your business? The business, unfortunately, due to this particular account, put us under.
[37:08.120 --> 37:16.880]  And my son had to find other employment and at 77, not too many doors being knocked down
[37:16.880 --> 37:23.760]  from me. So I'm not sure I understand what the nature
[37:23.760 --> 37:28.960]  of the case is going on. What are you adjudicating at this point?
[37:28.960 --> 37:40.920]  Well, they've enjoined the AAA as being the governing authority over the contract. And
[37:40.920 --> 37:55.960]  the court hearing on the 10th is to affirm that standing, that the equity court has
[37:55.960 --> 38:00.520]  no understanding. Is he saying that the parties did not have
[38:00.520 --> 38:18.240]  standing to enter into arbitration? No, that the... Due to the fact that the
[38:18.240 --> 38:28.760]  claim is on the opposing party is that the Home Improvement Consumer Protection Act
[38:28.760 --> 38:38.080]  takes precedent. And there was about eight or ten minor violations that they pointed
[38:38.080 --> 38:51.960]  out. And that were allegedly violated the HICPA Act.
[38:51.960 --> 38:56.880]  Okay, wait a minute. What did that have to do with the issue between you and the other
[38:56.880 --> 39:06.920]  party? Well, nothing. There is a... There are only three types
[39:06.920 --> 39:17.400]  of consumer residents that come under that statute in Pennsylvania. And they're all either
[39:17.400 --> 39:23.640]  a single family, two family, or a condominium, period. Commercial properties, according to
[39:23.640 --> 39:30.440]  the Attorney General, do not come under that act. And that was my argument and my motion
[39:30.440 --> 39:35.680]  to dismiss. Yeah, that's a straight-up subject matter
[39:35.680 --> 39:41.720]  of your sticking challenge. I would suggest you get a lawyer to bring that to the court.
[39:41.720 --> 39:47.800]  Okay, that's kind of like where my head was right now. And we've been trying to search
[39:47.800 --> 39:55.320]  for a lawyer and every time I make a call, I end up talking to the club. So we're going
[39:55.320 --> 40:00.640]  to follow that. I'll follow that trail then that it was our take-all, so my son and I
[40:00.640 --> 40:08.480]  will proceed down that road. I appreciate that. Now, I have a second issue, and this
[40:08.480 --> 40:13.920]  is not the one we had called in prior. This had to do with my son and the transportation
[40:13.920 --> 40:33.080]  stuff. And this thing, we tried to file a criminal complaint against the judge. And I took the
[40:33.080 --> 40:41.480]  criminal complaint up to the district attorney in the local county courthouse, and he refused
[40:41.480 --> 40:49.640]  to accept it. There was an ADA there and a detective. And they said they don't take
[40:49.640 --> 40:56.280]  private criminal complaints. Well, that's not what the statute says. Then they pointed
[40:56.280 --> 41:04.080]  me to a sign on a desk. Now, they had taken a complaint from me like three or four months
[41:04.080 --> 41:09.240]  ago. But now there's a sign on the desk that says we do not take any private criminal complaints.
[41:09.240 --> 41:16.400]  So I looked close and my eyes weren't that good to read it. And by the time I read it,
[41:16.400 --> 41:20.760]  it did say just that. We don't take any private criminal complaints. When I turned around,
[41:20.760 --> 41:27.760]  their names, those two guys took off. I couldn't find them in the courthouse. So we said, the
[41:27.760 --> 41:31.880]  heck with this, then, we'll go to the attorney general.
[41:31.880 --> 41:38.320]  And did you file criminal charges against the district attorney with the attorney general?
[41:38.320 --> 41:46.920]  I tried to. And here's what happened there. I made the call. I got his executive assistant.
[41:46.920 --> 41:53.480]  And I told her, wanted to know where in the building, because my son was near Harrisburg,
[41:53.480 --> 42:02.200]  should he go to file this private criminal complaint? And she tells me the same mantra.
[42:02.200 --> 42:10.480]  We don't take private criminal complaints. Now, I got her name. But I said, well, let
[42:10.480 --> 42:17.960]  me talk to one of the criminal divisions attorneys. And she refused to give me somebody to talk
[42:17.960 --> 42:18.960]  to.
[42:18.960 --> 42:30.320]  Okay, hold on. Hold on. Bad strategy. Never call these guys. Everything's in writing.
[42:30.320 --> 42:37.640]  Take up a criminal accusation against the prosecuting attorney for misfeasance in office
[42:37.640 --> 42:45.720]  and failing to perform a duties required to perform. Take it to a notary and have it authenticated.
[42:45.720 --> 42:56.560]  Put it in an envelope, send it registered to the certified mail to the attorney general.
[42:56.560 --> 43:03.800]  You don't care what they say. When the attorney general doesn't respond, then you come back
[43:03.800 --> 43:11.120]  to the court of common please and file criminal charges against the attorney general in the
[43:11.120 --> 43:16.760]  court of common please. You've filled out a verified criminal affidavit, send it registered
[43:16.760 --> 43:22.160]  to the court of common please. When the court of common please refuses to act on it, then
[43:22.160 --> 43:34.280]  you file with the next higher court. In Pennsylvania, unlike other states, you have standing. In
[43:34.280 --> 43:41.520]  every other state, if I can go give notice of, I'm saying every other state, all of the
[43:41.520 --> 43:48.800]  western states, all of the Spanish law states, the commonwealths are somewhat different. And
[43:48.800 --> 43:54.960]  I haven't worked with a number of the commonwealths, so I don't know how all of them work. But
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[46:23.080 --> 46:34.560]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, rule of law radio here with our special guest, Mr. Don
[46:34.560 --> 46:44.640]  Terry. And I didn't exactly dive off the cliff that time. I kind of stumbled off, but I can
[46:44.640 --> 46:49.560]  assure you that Deborah will not understand that fine distinction and I'll be in trouble
[46:49.560 --> 47:01.800]  anyway. Okay, Joel. On the break, I was talking to Don about this. Best strategy, send a verified
[47:01.800 --> 47:10.920]  criminal affidavit certified male to the prosecuting attorney. Don't ask him anything. You are
[47:10.920 --> 47:19.440]  the sovereign. He is the servant. The certified male, verified affidavit, that invokes his
[47:19.440 --> 47:25.640]  duty. When he fails to act on it, certified male, verified affidavit, to the attorney
[47:25.640 --> 47:33.200]  general, charging the prosecuting attorney with Ms. Feeson's in office, failing to perform
[47:33.200 --> 47:43.720]  a duty he is required to perform. If the prosecuting attorney does respond and exercises his discretion,
[47:43.720 --> 47:49.840]  then you allege to the attorney general that he did not exercise discretion in that he
[47:49.840 --> 47:55.560]  did not make a determination as to whether or not there was sufficient cause to believe
[47:55.560 --> 48:00.800]  that a crime had been committed and the accused had committed that crime, but rather he exercised
[48:00.800 --> 48:09.960]  prosecutorial caprice. And while a prosecutor in Pennsylvania does have discretion, first
[48:09.960 --> 48:18.400]  plus discretion, he does not have caprice. So you charge him with shielding from prosecution
[48:18.400 --> 48:25.960]  or obstruction with the attorney general and then you appeal his decision not to prosecute
[48:25.960 --> 48:34.840]  to the court of common place. And when the court of common place sides with the prosecutor,
[48:34.840 --> 48:43.040]  unlike every other state you have standing, this comes from the British and Australian
[48:43.040 --> 48:49.200]  law. When I was doing seminars in Australia, you could file what they call the criminal
[48:49.200 --> 48:58.800]  appearance notice, a can, as a common law public official. So you filed a summons and
[48:58.800 --> 49:06.480]  you had standing, you could, you had authority to move that all the way up through the courts
[49:06.480 --> 49:14.560]  just like Pennsylvania. So while you won't win this or you're not likely to, what you
[49:14.560 --> 49:21.680]  will do is embarrass these guys before every court all the way up to the Supreme.
[49:21.680 --> 49:22.680]  Gotcha.
[49:22.680 --> 49:28.960]  And then when you go back to the next fight, they're not going to want to fight with you.
[49:28.960 --> 49:36.240]  Once you have filed against the court of common place judge and next time you get in front
[49:36.240 --> 49:45.760]  of him, he's not going to be quite so sassy. What one of my favorite things to do is get
[49:45.760 --> 49:56.640]  a judge's attention. Yeah, it's like that. Like to me, you can't get to work. You don't
[49:56.640 --> 50:00.680]  want to abuse him. And when you hit him upside the head with that two before that's not
[50:00.680 --> 50:07.840]  abusing him, you just get his attention. Okay. And look at judicial conduct complaints, barb
[50:07.840 --> 50:11.520]  grievances. These are the most powerful tools you have.
[50:11.520 --> 50:24.640]  I hear you. We were having down on the road, the attorney general fiasco of filing a due
[50:24.640 --> 50:34.440]  process constitutional violation of constitutional rights with the FBI, local FBI. But it sounds
[50:34.440 --> 50:48.320]  like the stages that you guys just outlined have thought and process behind it in that
[50:48.320 --> 50:54.920]  way. These appear to be now the stages to go before we get the FBI involved.
[50:54.920 --> 51:01.920]  Exactly. Yeah. I'm glad you didn't go to them yet. Everything here is a setup. You
[51:01.920 --> 51:08.120]  always expect them to rule against you. I mean, I've got this rule. Never ask a public
[51:08.120 --> 51:14.800]  official to do anything you actually want him to do. Because you never ask a public
[51:14.800 --> 51:20.160]  official to do anything that the law does not compel him to do.
[51:20.160 --> 51:25.440]  So when he doesn't do it, you get to hammer him. So you go to the prosecutor and ask
[51:25.440 --> 51:29.720]  him to prosecute, but you really don't want him to. You want him to screw it up so you
[51:29.720 --> 51:35.560]  can hammer him with somebody else. What you do is you get everybody all the way up the
[51:35.560 --> 51:46.120]  line upset at everybody below them for getting you on to them. And you get every state actor
[51:46.120 --> 51:53.720]  to act him properly, at least from your perspective, all the way up to the Supreme. When the Supreme
[51:53.720 --> 51:58.920]  refuses to act, then you take the Supreme and everybody else to the feds.
[51:58.920 --> 52:06.800]  Okay. You make these accusations. The feds aren't really going to do anything, but what
[52:06.800 --> 52:10.440]  they are going to, you know, they're not going to take any real action, but they are
[52:10.440 --> 52:15.920]  going to call down there and say, Hey, guys, I got this guy down here wanting me to arrest
[52:15.920 --> 52:20.160]  all you guys. You want to tell me why I shouldn't do that?
[52:20.160 --> 52:28.880]  They really arrested and got rid of one attorney general two years ago on the state FBI did.
[52:28.880 --> 52:36.800]  So I guess it was my nickname that phone call. Yes, I remember that. And every official in
[52:36.800 --> 52:46.680]  the state is going to remember that as well. It goes to Pucker Factor. Well, it'll make
[52:46.680 --> 52:52.520]  it, if there's a chance of you getting a ruling in your favor, this will give them a reason
[52:52.520 --> 52:59.400]  not to want to get another fight with you. If this should be an arbitration, this will
[52:59.400 --> 53:06.000]  give them a reason to send it back to arbitration. It just doesn't work the way they taught
[53:06.000 --> 53:10.080]  us in high school. That's for sure.
[53:10.080 --> 53:15.560]  Yeah. You will never win your case simply because you have the law and the facts on
[53:15.560 --> 53:23.240]  your side. It's all politics, but that's not a problem. It's only a problem if you don't
[53:23.240 --> 53:30.360]  understand that it's all politics. Once you understand it, then you look for who is the
[53:30.360 --> 53:39.200]  guy with the most clout that I can really get PO and everybody below him.
[53:39.200 --> 53:48.680]  I love to hammer district judges. I had a guy, I live next to City Hall in Texas, and
[53:48.680 --> 53:53.240]  I was out working on a plastic tank. I was doing some plastic welding on it, and we had
[53:53.240 --> 53:59.720]  a fire ban on. I was using a propane torch with a little deflector. And this new police
[53:59.720 --> 54:05.240]  officer I had never seen before. They just hired him. I hear, sir, sir, and I turn around
[54:05.240 --> 54:11.040]  and said, yes, and I don't recognize this cop, so I know he's new. You can't have that
[54:11.040 --> 54:15.840]  open flame. And I held up this little propane torch and said, sure, I can't look. Nothing
[54:15.840 --> 54:20.720]  to it. Oh, no, you don't understand. We have a fire ban on. I told him, see all this equipment
[54:20.720 --> 54:25.360]  here is high pressure equipment. I can outrun the fire department. I understand, sir, but
[54:25.360 --> 54:32.800]  you can't have that open flame. Wait a minute. You're just joshing me, right? Oh, no, sir,
[54:32.800 --> 54:39.920]  no, sir. Wait a minute. That John Faustel sent you down here, didn't he? That's a local
[54:39.920 --> 54:47.760]  district judge. He sent you down here to harass me just because I filed one crummy little
[54:47.760 --> 54:53.280]  making a terroristic threat against him with a state attorney general. He sent you down
[54:53.280 --> 54:59.280]  here to screw with me, didn't he? The cop held up both hands with his palms out, took
[54:59.280 --> 55:06.280]  a step back. One moment, sir, took out his cell phone. He dialed about 30 seconds. The
[55:06.280 --> 55:12.880]  chief of police stepped out of the city hall, looked across at me and said, Randy, what
[55:12.880 --> 55:20.520]  are you doing to my new officer? I said, Oh, Tom, I was just jerking his chain. And the
[55:20.520 --> 55:32.400]  officer said, Oh, God, I saw my whole career pass before my eyes. He was concerned that
[55:32.400 --> 55:39.560]  I would make a claim against the district attorney, a district judge accusing him of
[55:39.560 --> 55:47.160]  sending this guy out to harass me and a district judge had nothing to do with it. He was terrified
[55:47.160 --> 55:55.080]  that the district judge would be go ballistic. And he would have. It's politics, guys. It's
[55:55.080 --> 56:05.040]  all politics. I hear you. And again, you guys put clarity on from where we stand. And believe
[56:05.040 --> 56:12.720]  me, we appreciate you very much. And all I can say is thank you. You are welcome. And
[56:12.720 --> 56:18.720]  keep us in touch. Let us know how this goes. I sure will. Thank you. Understand this is
[56:18.720 --> 56:25.120]  a process. Don't expect it to go quickly. What you do is you just put pressure on them
[56:25.120 --> 56:31.160]  and just steadily increasing the pressure. They are going to do everything they can to
[56:31.160 --> 56:38.760]  never admit to you that what you're doing is causing them difficulty. They do not want
[56:38.760 --> 56:49.560]  you to know that. So bar grieve the prosecuting attorney. That'll make him crazy. He doesn't
[56:49.560 --> 56:56.400]  expect to always be the prosecutor. He gets out of office and you filed two, three bar
[56:56.400 --> 57:03.320]  grievances against him. They have stained his record. No law firm in their right mind
[57:03.320 --> 57:09.760]  to pick him up if he's got more than three bar grievances. Valid in valid. Nobody cares.
[57:09.760 --> 57:17.200]  You just have caught the complaints against the judge. It hikes them political liability.
[57:17.200 --> 57:23.000]  So when they go to get reelected and these guys with money, look at his records and you
[57:23.000 --> 57:29.760]  got all these complaints against you. And he said, Oh, those weren't valid. And they're
[57:29.760 --> 57:38.480]  going to say, Well, maybe, but perception is everything. It looks bad. You become a political
[57:38.480 --> 57:47.600]  liability. They'll support somebody else. That's where the power is. Can you bar grave
[57:47.600 --> 57:57.760]  a judge, their attorney? Yes. Judicial conduct complain to judge. Sometimes a JP or a municipal
[57:57.760 --> 58:03.680]  judge are still practicing attorneys. But if you're an elected judge, a county or anything
[58:03.680 --> 58:10.120]  higher, like the court of comment, please, you have to stop practicing because they're
[58:10.120 --> 58:17.280]  going to fear as you're being a judge. So just a conduct is probably worse. Yeah. Judicial
[58:17.280 --> 58:22.280]  conduct complain against the this particular district magistrate is not an attorney, by
[58:22.280 --> 58:33.040]  the way. He's, he's, he's, he's just not an attorney. And so I did file though a judicial
[58:33.040 --> 58:38.320]  conduct complaint against him. Okay. Well, hang on. We're about to go to break. Randy
[58:38.320 --> 58:50.320]  Kelton, move our radio. I call in number 512-646-1984. We'll be right back.
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[01:00:46.240 --> 01:00:52.480]  In history the year 1916 the preparedness day bombing, a time suitcase bomb was detonated
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[01:00:57.800 --> 01:01:04.800]  the 10 and injuring 40 today in history.
[01:01:04.800 --> 01:01:09.840]  And recent news, since Governor Greg Abbott signed House Bill 1325 legalizing Hempett attacks
[01:01:09.840 --> 01:01:15.040]  his law back in June, county prosecutors around the state including Houston, Austin, San Antonio
[01:01:15.040 --> 01:01:19.160]  have been dropping marijuana possession charges and even refusing to file new ones since they
[01:01:19.160 --> 01:01:23.240]  are stipulating that they do not have the time or the laboratory equipment to test the
[01:01:23.240 --> 01:01:27.840]  year for THC. Margaret Moore, the Travis County District Attorney announced earlier
[01:01:27.840 --> 01:01:32.560]  this month that she was dismissing 32 felony possession and delivery of marijuana cases
[01:01:32.560 --> 01:01:33.760]  because of the law.
[01:01:33.760 --> 01:01:37.640]  Mr. Abbott and other state officials including the Attorney General stipulated in a letter
[01:01:37.640 --> 01:01:42.160]  that county district attorneys back on Thursday that marijuana has not been decriminalized
[01:01:42.160 --> 01:01:48.280]  in Texas and that these actions demonstrate a misunderstanding of how HB 1325 works as
[01:01:48.280 --> 01:01:54.560]  well as other cities too like the District Attorney in El Paso, Cayma Esparza, a Democrat
[01:01:54.560 --> 01:01:59.040]  who also stated earlier this month that the law, quote, will not have an effect on the
[01:01:59.040 --> 01:02:01.880]  prosecution of marijuana cases in El Paso.
[01:02:01.880 --> 01:02:06.840]  However, the issue was succinctly summarized by Mr. Brandon Ball, an assistant public defender
[01:02:06.840 --> 01:02:11.280]  in Harris County who stated that quote, the law is constantly changing on what makes something
[01:02:11.280 --> 01:02:13.520]  illegal based on its chemical makeup.
[01:02:13.520 --> 01:02:17.440]  It's important that if someone is charged with something, the test matches what they're
[01:02:17.440 --> 01:02:18.920]  charged with.
[01:02:18.920 --> 01:02:27.440]  A paper by Tulane University identified a five and a half inch American pocket shark.
[01:02:27.440 --> 01:02:32.360]  As the first of its kind in the Gulf of Mexico, the specimen being only the second pocket
[01:02:32.360 --> 01:02:38.000]  shark ever captured or recorded with the other one being found way back in 1979 in the East
[01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:39.480]  Pacific Ocean.
[01:02:39.480 --> 01:02:44.200]  According to the university paper, the shark secretes a lumus fluid from a gland near its
[01:02:44.200 --> 01:02:51.200]  front fins for the purposes hypothesized to lure and prey who may be drawn into the glow.
[01:03:14.200 --> 01:03:25.280]  Okay, we are back.
[01:03:25.280 --> 01:03:30.760]  Randy Kelton, Wheel of Law Radio here with our special guest, Mr. Don Terry.
[01:03:30.760 --> 01:03:33.640]  And we're going back to Jerry in Pennsylvania.
[01:03:33.640 --> 01:03:36.920]  Jerry, will we be pretty well done with you?
[01:03:36.920 --> 01:03:42.720]  Yeah, I was just going to say and I held on just to make sure I didn't, that again,
[01:03:42.720 --> 01:03:53.240]  aptly you guys have put some clarity on direction and again, on behalf of myself and my son,
[01:03:53.240 --> 01:03:58.200]  we do appreciate it very much and we appreciate you guys all the work you're doing for us
[01:03:58.200 --> 01:03:59.200]  out here.
[01:03:59.200 --> 01:04:00.200]  Thank you.
[01:04:00.200 --> 01:04:01.200]  You are welcome.
[01:04:01.200 --> 01:04:05.840]  Okay, now we're going to go to John in New York.
[01:04:05.840 --> 01:04:07.840]  Hello John.
[01:04:07.840 --> 01:04:19.840]  Hello John, John sometimes comes on the line and he's old and he falls asleep on the phone.
[01:04:19.840 --> 01:04:24.840]  John, did you fall asleep?
[01:04:24.840 --> 01:04:25.840]  I think he fell asleep.
[01:04:25.840 --> 01:04:28.840]  I'll go back to him in a little bit.
[01:04:28.840 --> 01:04:34.840]  Shane, you need to go over to John's house and wake him up.
[01:04:34.840 --> 01:04:38.520]  Where's he located at?
[01:04:38.520 --> 01:04:39.840]  I don't know.
[01:04:39.840 --> 01:04:40.840]  New York.
[01:04:40.840 --> 01:04:43.840]  New York's a big state.
[01:04:43.840 --> 01:04:47.840]  Yeah, John gets no slack from us.
[01:04:47.840 --> 01:04:50.840]  Okay, how is your case progressing?
[01:04:50.840 --> 01:04:56.480]  All right, let me just give you a rundown real quick.
[01:04:56.480 --> 01:05:04.240]  I filed the motions for sanctions on Wednesday, the motion for postponement on Thursday.
[01:05:04.240 --> 01:05:07.240]  And last week when I talked to you, I filed that objection.
[01:05:07.240 --> 01:05:11.720]  You got that 14-day window to object to the motion to lift or stay.
[01:05:11.720 --> 01:05:13.240]  So make a long story short.
[01:05:13.240 --> 01:05:14.240]  Hold on.
[01:05:14.240 --> 01:05:16.920]  Let me ask a question.
[01:05:16.920 --> 01:05:24.440]  The entity who filed a motion to lift stay, is that the one that did not prove up a claim
[01:05:24.440 --> 01:05:26.840]  or did not file a claim?
[01:05:26.840 --> 01:05:29.000]  That's correct.
[01:05:29.000 --> 01:05:33.920]  They filed it and I remember before I get into this part here, I filed my motions for
[01:05:33.920 --> 01:05:39.440]  sanctions against the attorney for not following the proper bankruptcy rules.
[01:05:39.440 --> 01:05:44.640]  I filed my answer within 14 days and I also filed my postponement because I have a right
[01:05:44.640 --> 01:05:49.480]  to bring my witnesses in pursuant to the rule, which is 4,001.
[01:05:49.480 --> 01:05:54.320]  And there's five big rules, but I'm not going to spend too much time reading all the rules
[01:05:54.320 --> 01:05:56.240]  over the show.
[01:05:56.240 --> 01:06:03.880]  But the main thing is I filed everything timely and about one hour before the deadline, September
[01:06:03.880 --> 01:06:10.800]  27th, which is today, which this case started back in July, by the way, they filed everything.
[01:06:10.800 --> 01:06:17.440]  The answer from my three motions and they also filed the proof of claim about I think
[01:06:17.440 --> 01:06:23.400]  around 3 o'clock or maybe 3.30, 4 o'clock this afternoon, everything was filed and the
[01:06:23.400 --> 01:06:30.280]  response and they did like a consolidated response for all of my objection, my sanctions
[01:06:30.280 --> 01:06:35.480]  and my motion for postponement, December, I need 60 days to get my witnesses together,
[01:06:35.480 --> 01:06:40.200]  which is going to be all their eyewitnesses in their proof of claim.
[01:06:40.200 --> 01:06:41.200]  That was five.
[01:06:41.200 --> 01:06:43.480]  Have you read these documents yet?
[01:06:43.480 --> 01:06:45.480]  Oh, they're all forged.
[01:06:45.480 --> 01:06:47.000]  Yes, I reviewed them.
[01:06:47.000 --> 01:06:48.000]  I saw them.
[01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:49.000]  It's a joke.
[01:06:49.000 --> 01:06:52.760]  It's kind of what I figured they were waiting till the last minute.
[01:06:52.760 --> 01:06:56.960]  They're trying to wear you down.
[01:06:56.960 --> 01:07:01.800]  Were you listening to the show earlier?
[01:07:01.800 --> 01:07:04.880]  I just got on about 30 minutes ago, Randy.
[01:07:04.880 --> 01:07:05.880]  Okay.
[01:07:05.880 --> 01:07:12.520]  Then what I'd like you to do is take the phone and beat yourself around the eyes in the ears.
[01:07:12.520 --> 01:07:15.400]  We have Don Terry on.
[01:07:15.400 --> 01:07:24.360]  Don Terry took these guys on and they threw him in jail for Don 11 months, 10 months, 10
[01:07:24.360 --> 01:07:34.000]  months, they did everything they could to beat him down and they couldn't get it done.
[01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:43.760]  Finally, they had to let him out and now he's about to land on them like a ton of bricks.
[01:07:43.760 --> 01:07:45.920]  This is what these guys will do to you.
[01:07:45.920 --> 01:07:48.680]  They'll do everything they can to stall.
[01:07:48.680 --> 01:07:57.960]  I suggest every time they file a pleading and if you can find one argument where a case
[01:07:57.960 --> 01:08:08.560]  law is misstated or the reasoning of the court is misstated, bar grieve them.
[01:08:08.560 --> 01:08:15.320]  Bar grieve them into what Scott Richardson says into the Stone Age.
[01:08:15.320 --> 01:08:20.760]  The only way you can win this thing is by holding them off.
[01:08:20.760 --> 01:08:30.080]  It's almost certain they have sold your mortgage in multiple times and they absolutely cannot
[01:08:30.080 --> 01:08:36.240]  afford to lose the case because they don't have to pay all these mortgages back what
[01:08:36.240 --> 01:08:38.280]  they've sold.
[01:08:38.280 --> 01:08:47.600]  They sell the mortgage for I think the standing price was like 93% of the face value of the
[01:08:47.600 --> 01:08:48.600]  mortgage.
[01:08:48.600 --> 01:08:56.200]  If they give you a $200,000 mortgage and they sell it 50 times, I have a woman in Dallas
[01:08:56.200 --> 01:09:01.200]  that has proof they sold it 70 times.
[01:09:01.200 --> 01:09:07.440]  The 70 times the original mortgage amount and they have mortgage insurance on each one
[01:09:07.440 --> 01:09:10.520]  of those.
[01:09:10.520 --> 01:09:17.520]  As long as this keeps running, every month they have to pay a payment on one of those.
[01:09:17.520 --> 01:09:22.760]  They're bleeding out money for all of these until they can get it foreclosed on.
[01:09:22.760 --> 01:09:27.800]  Once they get it foreclosed on, the insurance they've got pays it off.
[01:09:27.800 --> 01:09:33.000]  The longer you can hold them off, the more money you bleed out of them.
[01:09:33.000 --> 01:09:39.160]  If you hammer their lawyers, as you bar grieve the lawyers, one lawyer will quit and they'll
[01:09:39.160 --> 01:09:43.480]  bring in another one and each one will cost them more money.
[01:09:43.480 --> 01:09:53.880]  Have you heard about the mistake they made in Leslie's case, bad grandma, where they
[01:09:53.880 --> 01:10:03.080]  accidentally included the invoice to the bank for writing a opposition to summary judgment.
[01:10:03.080 --> 01:10:11.200]  They charged the bank $88,000 for that document.
[01:10:11.200 --> 01:10:15.560]  You cost them a lot of money.
[01:10:15.560 --> 01:10:24.040]  So best thing you can do is hammer them, hit them with everything you've got every time.
[01:10:24.040 --> 01:10:30.880]  The hate process, give them good reason.
[01:10:30.880 --> 01:10:37.760]  What do you expect to happen with what you have, what are they, they're trying to lift
[01:10:37.760 --> 01:10:40.280]  the state so they can go ahead and sell it.
[01:10:40.280 --> 01:10:45.480]  I'm going to suggest to you they are not going to sell this property.
[01:10:45.480 --> 01:10:54.560]  This comes from on the order of 750 cases that I've helped people with.
[01:10:54.560 --> 01:11:00.320]  Always the bank wants the option to sell.
[01:11:00.320 --> 01:11:06.880]  The reason they want that is because they know your mom's in the property and every
[01:11:06.880 --> 01:11:13.640]  day she gets up and wonders, am I going to be thrown out of my house today.
[01:11:13.640 --> 01:11:17.920]  After a while the pressure just gets to you.
[01:11:17.920 --> 01:11:25.240]  I helped a guy in California and I was talking to Terry on the break about this guy.
[01:11:25.240 --> 01:11:30.040]  I went to a seminar out there and told him if anybody comes in here and tells you they
[01:11:30.040 --> 01:11:34.040]  can win your case in court, don't walk away from them, run away from them.
[01:11:34.040 --> 01:11:38.440]  Because the court is going to move against you out of hand at every turn.
[01:11:38.440 --> 01:11:42.520]  The best thing you can do is live in your property quite a while without having to pay
[01:11:42.520 --> 01:11:43.640]  any mortgage.
[01:11:43.640 --> 01:11:48.320]  I suggest that people put half their mortgage in the bank and then they build up a nest egg
[01:11:48.320 --> 01:11:54.360]  that they can buy the property across the street and not be under water and live in
[01:11:54.360 --> 01:11:56.280]  this house for free all this time.
[01:11:56.280 --> 01:12:00.160]  Well, that's what this guy did.
[01:12:00.160 --> 01:12:04.560]  After I started helping him we filed a lawsuit.
[01:12:04.560 --> 01:12:09.360]  His parents passed away and he inherited a million dollars.
[01:12:09.360 --> 01:12:13.360]  So he could pay it off any time but he didn't.
[01:12:13.360 --> 01:12:19.600]  He lived in the house six years and where it was at in San Diego the rents were between
[01:12:19.600 --> 01:12:23.560]  $3,000 and $3,500 a month.
[01:12:23.560 --> 01:12:30.240]  He bought the property for $380,000, lived in it for six years without paying a dime
[01:12:30.240 --> 01:12:32.200]  on it.
[01:12:32.200 --> 01:12:40.440]  And when the California Supreme denied our cert, we did a cert based on the Jazz and
[01:12:40.440 --> 01:12:42.560]  Ascii case.
[01:12:42.560 --> 01:12:49.520]  I said, okay, now it's time to go back fraud based on the calculations I do on my spreadsheet
[01:12:49.520 --> 01:12:52.400]  on the payments that they charge.
[01:12:52.400 --> 01:12:55.280]  He said, nah, I'm tired of fighting this.
[01:12:55.280 --> 01:12:58.560]  He was just, he's had enough.
[01:12:58.560 --> 01:13:09.720]  So he sold the property for $890,000 and paid off the bank and went to Phoenix, bought a
[01:13:09.720 --> 01:13:19.920]  house bigger than the one he was in for less money and left all the way to the bank.
[01:13:19.920 --> 01:13:22.040]  You won't be able to keep this house.
[01:13:22.040 --> 01:13:25.320]  They're just going to fight you.
[01:13:25.320 --> 01:13:30.800]  The best you can do is just keep them out of it for quite a while.
[01:13:30.800 --> 01:13:31.800]  Randy?
[01:13:31.800 --> 01:13:32.800]  Yeah.
[01:13:32.800 --> 01:13:42.520]  They made a really, really big argument regarding, I filed a $1 million common law lien several
[01:13:42.520 --> 01:13:49.080]  months ago on this property and put it on a financial statement, got a certified copy
[01:13:49.080 --> 01:13:53.240]  pulled off from the Department of State and Albany, took it down to the clerk's office.
[01:13:53.240 --> 01:13:59.080]  It was a nightmare getting that thing recorded and did the deputy clerk and the supervisor
[01:13:59.080 --> 01:14:02.640]  in the records department were actually arguing against each other and saying, he can record
[01:14:02.640 --> 01:14:03.640]  it.
[01:14:03.640 --> 01:14:04.640]  No, he can't record it.
[01:14:04.640 --> 01:14:05.640]  And they went on it for two hours.
[01:14:05.640 --> 01:14:10.560]  He came out of the meeting because he's more on my side because he looks at what I'm doing.
[01:14:10.560 --> 01:14:11.560]  He says, you're recording it.
[01:14:11.560 --> 01:14:12.560]  And I said, okay.
[01:14:12.560 --> 01:14:16.120]  And it was like $88.00 and they made a big thing about that.
[01:14:16.120 --> 01:14:21.960]  It was a common law lien and it's in the response that was filed this afternoon.
[01:14:21.960 --> 01:14:25.040]  How did you be careful with common law liens?
[01:14:25.040 --> 01:14:27.840]  By clearly done.
[01:14:27.840 --> 01:14:34.840]  They have actually, this is canned to what Don was put in jail for.
[01:14:34.840 --> 01:14:44.840]  Don, would you explain the legislation they used to justify what they did was they charged
[01:14:44.840 --> 01:14:48.160]  Don with a felony for filing a federal lawsuit?
[01:14:48.160 --> 01:14:49.160]  Yeah.
[01:14:49.160 --> 01:14:56.040]  They had just passed a law, I wonder if they passed it after I did it.
[01:14:56.040 --> 01:15:02.000]  Anyway, they just passed a law that said if you file a sham, use a sham legal process
[01:15:02.000 --> 01:15:08.920]  and it doesn't mention the word liens, but in court, both attorneys were saying it was
[01:15:08.920 --> 01:15:12.160]  put there for the people who file liens against public officials.
[01:15:12.160 --> 01:15:18.360]  Of course, your lien was on a property, but anyway, file these liens, sham legal process
[01:15:18.360 --> 01:15:21.240]  to intimidate a public official.
[01:15:21.240 --> 01:15:24.400]  And of course, the word knowingly is in there.
[01:15:24.400 --> 01:15:26.600]  You have to knowingly do it.
[01:15:26.600 --> 01:15:30.080]  Anyway, that's why I'm so surprised.
[01:15:30.080 --> 01:15:32.640]  Let me give you an example.
[01:15:32.640 --> 01:15:36.480]  A lot of you probably remember Robert Fox.
[01:15:36.480 --> 01:15:42.880]  Robert Fox called me one day when I was in North Carolina and he said, I got these two
[01:15:42.880 --> 01:15:52.800]  guys that the FBI has arrested them for filing liens against public officials.
[01:15:52.800 --> 01:15:58.240]  I said, well, who did they file against, Justice of the Peace?
[01:15:58.240 --> 01:16:03.600]  Well, how much were the liens, 11 trillion?
[01:16:03.600 --> 01:16:11.200]  Well, what was the issue, traffic?
[01:16:11.200 --> 01:16:14.240]  What were you thinking?
[01:16:14.240 --> 01:16:18.640]  And so he's got these two guys on the line and he said, well, it was legal to file the
[01:16:18.640 --> 01:16:19.640]  liens.
[01:16:19.640 --> 01:16:21.140]  I said, yeah, maybe.
[01:16:21.140 --> 01:16:22.280]  But now they're arresting you.
[01:16:22.280 --> 01:16:23.760]  He said, well, what do you think?
[01:16:23.760 --> 01:16:30.800]  I said, you're going to win the case because the state of the law actually allowed that.
[01:16:30.800 --> 01:16:35.920]  But in the meantime, you're going to spend a couple of years in jail, you'll lose everything
[01:16:35.920 --> 01:16:41.640]  you have and you are completely destroyed, they'll dismiss the case.
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[01:19:17.200 --> 01:19:34.640]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, rule of law radio here with Mr. Don Terry, and Don, you
[01:19:34.640 --> 01:19:37.000]  got the law you wanted to read.
[01:19:37.000 --> 01:19:42.840]  Yeah, this is what I was accused of violating for filing a federal lawsuit against the cops,
[01:19:42.840 --> 01:19:47.800]  and they'll probably, you know, wording may be different, they might follow the institute,
[01:19:47.800 --> 01:19:53.560]  to make it a crime to impersonate a public servant or peace officer in connection with
[01:19:53.560 --> 01:19:58.600]  the sham legal process, to make it a crime to falsely assert the authority of state
[01:19:58.600 --> 01:20:04.440]  law in connection with a sham legal process, to make it a crime to act without authority
[01:20:04.440 --> 01:20:08.920]  as a judge, magistrate, or hearing officer, or any other authority with the authority
[01:20:08.920 --> 01:20:15.640]  of adjudicative, to adjudicate the rights or interests of another, or to sign a document
[01:20:15.640 --> 01:20:19.400]  in this capacity as if it were authorized by state law, stuff like that.
[01:20:19.400 --> 01:20:22.840]  It goes on, but that's the gist of it.
[01:20:22.840 --> 01:20:26.840]  Oh, you tricked them.
[01:20:26.840 --> 01:20:30.880]  Yeah, I used your book.
[01:20:30.880 --> 01:20:33.880]  You used language.
[01:20:33.880 --> 01:20:40.040]  I mentioned earlier that you asked them to define certain terms, and they called that
[01:20:40.040 --> 01:20:44.880]  a sovereign citizen document because you asked them to define terms.
[01:20:44.880 --> 01:20:46.280]  Yes.
[01:20:46.280 --> 01:20:47.280]  You tricked them.
[01:20:47.280 --> 01:20:55.040]  They read your document as if it was patriot mythology, but it wasn't.
[01:20:55.040 --> 01:21:05.720]  So they assumed, they just assumed that because you looked like you were making unfounded arguments
[01:21:05.720 --> 01:21:14.280]  that you were necessarily a part of this group who was doing all these other things, so they
[01:21:14.280 --> 01:21:19.040]  accused you of doing what everybody else was doing when you weren't.
[01:21:19.040 --> 01:21:33.960]  Oh, they screwed up big time, and to me it's unfathomable that they could charge someone
[01:21:33.960 --> 01:21:42.240]  criminally for filing a civil lawsuit.
[01:21:42.240 --> 01:21:46.560]  They put that statute was talking about with these guys who were setting up their common
[01:21:46.560 --> 01:21:56.480]  law grand jurors and selecting their own officials and pretending to hold court and all this
[01:21:56.480 --> 01:21:58.240]  kind of stuff.
[01:21:58.240 --> 01:22:03.040]  That's what this went to, but you weren't doing any of that stuff.
[01:22:03.040 --> 01:22:06.680]  No, that's true.
[01:22:06.680 --> 01:22:07.680]  We got through that.
[01:22:07.680 --> 01:22:12.760]  The first thing they did was file a motion to dismiss for a fairly steady claim.
[01:22:12.760 --> 01:22:13.760]  I got passed that.
[01:22:13.760 --> 01:22:16.880]  Then we did a whole bunch of motions.
[01:22:16.880 --> 01:22:19.880]  Wasn't dismissed as being a sham legal process?
[01:22:19.880 --> 01:22:26.760]  So yeah, they, you know, it went through its normal channels.
[01:22:26.760 --> 01:22:33.760]  And why did it get dismissed, didn't it, because you were trapped in jail and couldn't adjudicate
[01:22:33.760 --> 01:22:34.760]  the case?
[01:22:34.760 --> 01:22:38.160]  No, no, I don't remember.
[01:22:38.160 --> 01:22:42.520]  They were, like you say with the housing, they're not going to rule against the police
[01:22:42.520 --> 01:22:44.200]  officers.
[01:22:44.200 --> 01:22:47.640]  It was, for me, it was just stand up for my rights.
[01:22:47.640 --> 01:22:50.520]  I knew I wasn't going to win.
[01:22:50.520 --> 01:22:57.000]  So they just ruled out of hand for the cops, even though they violated the law.
[01:22:57.000 --> 01:22:59.520]  It wasn't surprising.
[01:22:59.520 --> 01:23:06.760]  Yeah, that's kind of standard.
[01:23:06.760 --> 01:23:09.400]  Have you ever filed criminally against the police?
[01:23:09.400 --> 01:23:10.840]  I haven't yet.
[01:23:10.840 --> 01:23:18.000]  Okay, hang on, Shane, we'll get back to you in a minute.
[01:23:18.000 --> 01:23:21.680]  That is something you can use to rejuvenate the case.
[01:23:21.680 --> 01:23:26.480]  That's what I plan on doing now that they've admitted it's perfectly legal.
[01:23:26.480 --> 01:23:28.160]  The cops then have lied.
[01:23:28.160 --> 01:23:30.400]  They misapplied a law.
[01:23:30.400 --> 01:23:39.000]  Yeah, when you file criminally against the police, they have no option.
[01:23:39.000 --> 01:23:43.720]  They have to slither up behind this thin blue line.
[01:23:43.720 --> 01:23:48.840]  They have to protect these police because they have established policies and procedures
[01:23:48.840 --> 01:23:52.560]  that are criminal by their nature.
[01:23:52.560 --> 01:23:57.120]  But this is what they're used to doing, and they're training these policemen to follow
[01:23:57.120 --> 01:24:01.640]  these policies, and they're putting the policemen out there on the street, and then one of these
[01:24:01.640 --> 01:24:06.800]  policemen gets challenged for following their policy, they have to do everything they can
[01:24:06.800 --> 01:24:13.280]  to protect him, or all of the other policemen are going to bail on them, exactly.
[01:24:13.280 --> 01:24:19.080]  So now you have them in a spot, and we were talking earlier, I wonder if these guys are
[01:24:19.080 --> 01:24:24.320]  listening to the show because I called down there and told them that we would be talking
[01:24:24.320 --> 01:24:31.440]  about them, so I would expect them to be listening, and that's okay.
[01:24:31.440 --> 01:24:39.800]  On the one hand, if they are listening, they will hear some of what we were planning, but
[01:24:39.800 --> 01:24:50.440]  their problem is for the most part, this horse is already out of the barn, or to put it another
[01:24:50.440 --> 01:24:53.040]  way, the bell has already been rung.
[01:24:53.040 --> 01:25:00.040]  On the other hand, where it hasn't been rung, where you go in and file criminal charges against
[01:25:00.040 --> 01:25:10.840]  these officers, they have no choice, they have to try to shield these officers from prosecution.
[01:25:10.840 --> 01:25:16.600]  If they don't, all of the other officers will feel like they've been betrayed.
[01:25:16.600 --> 01:25:21.520]  Now we know they're going to try to shield these officers from prosecution, and we will
[01:25:21.520 --> 01:25:29.240]  file actions intended to get them to do that so that we can then file against these guys
[01:25:29.240 --> 01:25:33.600]  for what they're doing.
[01:25:33.600 --> 01:25:39.400]  They've created a mess for themselves that they got no easy way out of, and sorry Shane,
[01:25:39.400 --> 01:25:47.640]  we kind of got distracted from what you were doing, but the thing I wanted you to see about
[01:25:47.640 --> 01:25:59.360]  today about Don is that he never quit, the only time you win is when you never quit.
[01:25:59.360 --> 01:26:05.760]  You get right to the point to where they've got the sort of dumb a clease hanging over
[01:26:05.760 --> 01:26:14.120]  your head, and they're just about to strike with it, and you give them the finger, then
[01:26:14.120 --> 01:26:17.840]  they drop it and go home.
[01:26:17.840 --> 01:26:21.000]  Shane, point is, don't quit.
[01:26:21.000 --> 01:26:29.840]  So back to you Shane, we interrupted you, and it's my show I can cheat if I want to.
[01:26:29.840 --> 01:26:30.840]  You still there?
[01:26:30.840 --> 01:26:38.200]  Yep, I'm here, I just downloaded the answer, I just downloaded the answer from Pacers,
[01:26:38.200 --> 01:26:45.760]  and I just, in the process of emailing it to you, but yeah, you're absolutely correct,
[01:26:45.760 --> 01:26:49.440]  but what is really aggravating as I'm reading it, actually I'm not aggravated, I'm kind
[01:26:49.440 --> 01:26:54.480]  of like amazed that they keep on bringing up that I am alone with them, and I don't,
[01:26:54.480 --> 01:27:00.800]  and in the document, the response, they refer to me as she, and she did it, she never rebutted
[01:27:00.800 --> 01:27:06.240]  it, and I'm not a she, I'm a he, and I think they're referring to my mom, so they're trying
[01:27:06.240 --> 01:27:12.680]  to mix intertwined percations with mine, and what was interesting about it is, is Nation
[01:27:12.680 --> 01:27:18.880]  Star, Mr. Cooper from Dallas, Texas, filed a motion to lift the stay, so both of them
[01:27:18.880 --> 01:27:21.880]  will be heard on the same day, same day, on October 1st.
[01:27:21.880 --> 01:27:24.600]  Wait a minute, hold on, Cooper?
[01:27:24.600 --> 01:27:25.600]  Yeah.
[01:27:25.600 --> 01:27:26.600]  Mr. Cooper.
[01:27:26.600 --> 01:27:28.760]  What's his, what's his first name?
[01:27:28.760 --> 01:27:33.680]  That's the name of the mortgage company in Dallas, Texas, they bought out, oh, I thought
[01:27:33.680 --> 01:27:40.840]  it was a lawyer, because I dealt with a lawyer named Cooper, an info closure, okay, go ahead,
[01:27:40.840 --> 01:27:41.840]  I'm sorry.
[01:27:41.840 --> 01:27:46.240]  Located in Coppell, C-O-P-P-E-L, L.
[01:27:46.240 --> 01:27:55.600]  Coppell is a North West suburb of Dallas, you've got Dallas and Fort Worth, 25 miles
[01:27:55.600 --> 01:28:05.880]  apart, and everything in between is all cities, it's all developed, Coppell goes straight
[01:28:05.880 --> 01:28:12.360]  north of Dallas, about 10 miles, and then west, about five miles, and you're in Coppell.
[01:28:12.360 --> 01:28:15.360]  Right, yeah, that's correct.
[01:28:15.360 --> 01:28:16.360]  Yeah.
[01:28:16.360 --> 01:28:25.720]  So, my responsibility is, there's nine officers that run Mr. Cooper, which is, its nations
[01:28:25.720 --> 01:28:30.200]  start doing business as Mr. Cooper, and when I go down there for Thanksgiving, I'm going
[01:28:30.200 --> 01:28:34.200]  to go down to the sheriff's department and get their addresses, so I can serve them their
[01:28:34.200 --> 01:28:36.480]  lawsuit, because that's what we're working on now.
[01:28:36.480 --> 01:28:39.440]  We're going to sue them.
[01:28:39.440 --> 01:28:40.440]  Good.
[01:28:40.440 --> 01:28:49.080]  That's, if there is a, you know, the judges are bought and paid for, they're bought and
[01:28:49.080 --> 01:28:54.720]  paid for by the banks, not the lawyers.
[01:28:54.720 --> 01:29:01.520]  When you start suing the lawyers, that's a whole other animal, you could actually win
[01:29:01.520 --> 01:29:02.520]  that one.
[01:29:02.520 --> 01:29:08.080]  Randy, I figured I'd go after the officers, and I got it from Thomson's Reuters, which
[01:29:08.080 --> 01:29:11.960]  you can't even get on the internet, by the way, I got a membership with them, and they
[01:29:11.960 --> 01:29:16.520]  gave me the nine officers, the big shots, not the little people, the big shots that run
[01:29:16.520 --> 01:29:19.840]  the company, and they're all located in that area.
[01:29:19.840 --> 01:29:24.560]  So, you're suing them personally in their individual capacity?
[01:29:24.560 --> 01:29:26.040]  Oh, yeah.
[01:29:26.040 --> 01:29:27.600]  Oh, perfect.
[01:29:27.600 --> 01:29:28.600]  Hang on.
[01:29:28.600 --> 01:29:29.600]  About to go to break.
[01:29:29.600 --> 01:29:37.080]  Randy Kelton, Rural Law Radio, I called in number 512-646-1984, well, I've only got
[01:29:37.080 --> 01:29:44.360]  two segments left, and John may have woke up by now, but so I won't give out the call
[01:29:44.360 --> 01:29:45.360]  in number.
[01:29:45.360 --> 01:29:48.280]  John, are you awake?
[01:29:48.280 --> 01:29:49.760]  I'm right here.
[01:29:49.760 --> 01:29:50.760]  Good.
[01:29:50.760 --> 01:29:52.880]  Okay, we tried to get you earlier.
[01:29:52.880 --> 01:29:53.880]  We'll get to you.
[01:29:53.880 --> 01:30:02.080]  Hang on, we'll be right back.
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[01:33:24.680 --> 01:33:30.680]  Okay, we are back.
[01:33:30.680 --> 01:33:38.480]  Randy Kelton, Rule of Law Radio here with Don Terry, and we're talking to Shane in New
[01:33:38.480 --> 01:33:39.480]  York.
[01:33:39.480 --> 01:33:40.480]  Hello, Shane.
[01:33:40.480 --> 01:33:41.480]  I'm back, Randy.
[01:33:41.480 --> 01:33:42.480]  Okay.
[01:33:42.480 --> 01:33:43.480]  Where are we, Shane?
[01:33:43.480 --> 01:33:49.480]  We kind of bushwhacked you and went off in another direction.
[01:33:49.480 --> 01:33:51.480]  Where were we?
[01:33:51.480 --> 01:33:58.280]  Well, I just wanted to let you know that I made my first payment for my bankruptcy case
[01:33:58.280 --> 01:34:02.120]  today, which is due October 1st, but I want to pay it ahead of time before the October
[01:34:02.120 --> 01:34:03.120]  1st hearing.
[01:34:03.120 --> 01:34:08.360]  So, let's get right down to the question I have for you for today.
[01:34:08.360 --> 01:34:09.360]  What do you think is going to happen?
[01:34:09.360 --> 01:34:15.000]  I did an enormous amount of work the last couple of weeks by objecting within that 14
[01:34:15.000 --> 01:34:17.120]  time umbrella that's been taken care of.
[01:34:17.120 --> 01:34:22.760]  I saw the motion for sanctions based on all his fraud, and I asked for a postponement,
[01:34:22.760 --> 01:34:24.960]  so there's three pending motions.
[01:34:24.960 --> 01:34:30.160]  I mean, I've worked my tail on, and then he comes and files it at the last second, the
[01:34:30.160 --> 01:34:31.960]  proof of claim, which is still with fraud.
[01:34:31.960 --> 01:34:37.480]  Signs of those companies are perjury, unbelievable, and then answers, I think their answer was
[01:34:37.480 --> 01:34:43.640]  like nine pages, to knock out my three motions, and they're moving from the October 1st, but
[01:34:43.640 --> 01:34:49.040]  I do have a due process, right, to present my witnesses to rebut their motion to what
[01:34:49.040 --> 01:34:50.040]  the state.
[01:34:50.040 --> 01:34:54.640]  So, I'm hoping that he's going to, you know, I should be able to get that extension.
[01:34:54.640 --> 01:34:55.640]  Okay, wait, wait.
[01:34:55.640 --> 01:35:02.560]  From the, yeah, you're asking for an extension based on the late filing of all of these documents?
[01:35:02.560 --> 01:35:06.240]  Have you done that?
[01:35:06.240 --> 01:35:10.520]  They never gave me the 30-day window at the rule state, okay?
[01:35:10.520 --> 01:35:14.240]  They filed it on September 6th, during the step for October 1st, so they'd break their
[01:35:14.240 --> 01:35:17.040]  yourselves to get a 30-day window.
[01:35:17.040 --> 01:35:19.320]  The rule states you have to respond within 14 days.
[01:35:19.320 --> 01:35:20.320]  I did that.
[01:35:20.320 --> 01:35:22.320]  The response is actually fantastic.
[01:35:22.320 --> 01:35:25.320]  Now, I just want to back up a second.
[01:35:25.320 --> 01:35:31.720]  Mr. Cooper, or, yeah, Nationstar doing business as Mr. Cooper purchased this from Sataris
[01:35:31.720 --> 01:35:35.760]  for $48 billion back at March 1st of 2019.
[01:35:35.760 --> 01:35:44.280]  Sataris came from PHH, which was worked with HSBC and the Federal National Mortgage Association,
[01:35:44.280 --> 01:35:45.280]  okay?
[01:35:45.280 --> 01:35:50.880]  Since this case has started, it's the, what do you call that, the assignment of debt,
[01:35:50.880 --> 01:35:54.480]  it's been transferred five times in the last six years.
[01:35:54.480 --> 01:35:58.240]  And every time it's been transferred, these people don't even work for these companies.
[01:35:58.240 --> 01:36:01.240]  They're all fake people, okay?
[01:36:01.240 --> 01:36:07.520]  So it's fraud on top of fraud on top of fraud on top of fraud.
[01:36:07.520 --> 01:36:16.720]  And have you, have you asked for production of the original mortgage note?
[01:36:16.720 --> 01:36:18.960]  They can't be done because they already lost it.
[01:36:18.960 --> 01:36:22.960]  No, have you asked for it?
[01:36:22.960 --> 01:36:23.960]  Of course.
[01:36:23.960 --> 01:36:27.000]  And they haven't produced it?
[01:36:27.000 --> 01:36:28.840]  They can't because they lost it.
[01:36:28.840 --> 01:36:31.960]  Okay, is that, that's what they've claimed?
[01:36:31.960 --> 01:36:36.640]  Yeah, they lost it, but they said that they did a lost note after David, and that was
[01:36:36.640 --> 01:36:40.720]  real, that was all fraud too, because these are, these are all people they don't even
[01:36:40.720 --> 01:36:41.720]  know who they are.
[01:36:41.720 --> 01:36:45.480]  So our, our goal is just to protect all these people.
[01:36:45.480 --> 01:36:50.200]  Has there been a ruling on, I'm sure you challenged that, has there been a ruling on
[01:36:50.200 --> 01:36:51.200]  it?
[01:36:51.200 --> 01:36:58.360]  Um, it was ignored at the state level.
[01:36:58.360 --> 01:37:02.360]  Okay, so there hasn't, so it's not residue to cut it, they hadn't ruled against you
[01:37:02.360 --> 01:37:03.360]  on it.
[01:37:03.360 --> 01:37:11.760]  Well, that's another thing I was going to point out to you, is that right now, nation
[01:37:11.760 --> 01:37:20.680]  star slash Mr. Cue, they never follow suit in the state court, but it started with HSBC.
[01:37:20.680 --> 01:37:27.200]  They were the lead party, and then they sold it as they were trying to propose.
[01:37:27.200 --> 01:37:30.560]  So they can't even use residue to cut it, they're using it though on the pleadings,
[01:37:30.560 --> 01:37:34.440]  they're using it, but they can't, because they're not, they never followed suit in
[01:37:34.440 --> 01:37:37.040]  the state court or county court.
[01:37:37.040 --> 01:37:40.600]  But more, but New York is a mortgage state.
[01:37:40.600 --> 01:37:42.240]  Right.
[01:37:42.240 --> 01:37:49.680]  So do they have any kind of final determination on a mortgage suit?
[01:37:49.680 --> 01:37:55.240]  No, but they're using residue to cut it from HSBC.
[01:37:55.240 --> 01:37:59.440]  They're trying to act like the HSBC, you know.
[01:37:59.440 --> 01:38:02.920]  Okay, this is getting too confusing.
[01:38:02.920 --> 01:38:03.920]  Right.
[01:38:03.920 --> 01:38:06.080]  They're changing names, Randy.
[01:38:06.080 --> 01:38:07.080]  Okay, yeah.
[01:38:07.080 --> 01:38:12.280]  Well, one of the things is you're using pronouns, and I'm not sure who they're reporting to.
[01:38:12.280 --> 01:38:20.360]  Right now, you're in a bankruptcy, and the alleged lender has filed a proof of claim.
[01:38:20.360 --> 01:38:22.600]  Right.
[01:38:22.600 --> 01:38:33.480]  Because the proof of claim include evidence that the claimant holds the original mortgage
[01:38:33.480 --> 01:38:34.480]  note.
[01:38:34.480 --> 01:38:35.480]  Nope.
[01:38:35.480 --> 01:38:44.120]  Then, okay, then move to strike the proof of claim, because the only one who can have
[01:38:44.120 --> 01:38:51.440]  a claim is the holder of the original note.
[01:38:51.440 --> 01:39:03.880]  And no lender in his right mind would allow the original note to be lost, because once
[01:39:03.880 --> 01:39:16.200]  the mortgage is satisfied, even if it's satisfied through foreclosure, the borrower has a right
[01:39:16.200 --> 01:39:24.000]  to the return of that original note.
[01:39:24.000 --> 01:39:30.080]  This is a issue, you know, before they, you can move to strike the whole proof of claim
[01:39:30.080 --> 01:39:37.600]  because it doesn't allege, it's sufficiently alleged that they are the true holder.
[01:39:37.600 --> 01:39:48.400]  There is no, is there an adjudication on the allegation that the note was lost?
[01:39:48.400 --> 01:39:51.600]  Has there been a ruling on it?
[01:39:51.600 --> 01:39:52.600]  Yeah.
[01:39:52.600 --> 01:39:53.600]  No.
[01:39:53.600 --> 01:40:02.040]  When the state court ruled on it, they granted summary judgment a favor of HSBC only, okay,
[01:40:02.040 --> 01:40:10.720]  just going back to February of 2018, okay, and about exactly 32 to 33 days after they
[01:40:10.720 --> 01:40:17.480]  granted summary judgment, the judge on his own changed the headers to the Federal National
[01:40:17.480 --> 01:40:21.280]  Mortgage Association, and they're not even a party of the case, it just blew us away
[01:40:21.280 --> 01:40:26.080]  with no motion, no nothing, but just to make any sense, and in the order, it says they
[01:40:26.080 --> 01:40:31.960]  do have the note, they do have the assignment, it was like the record doesn't match his
[01:40:31.960 --> 01:40:32.960]  record.
[01:40:32.960 --> 01:40:40.360]  So did you file criminally against the judge?
[01:40:40.360 --> 01:40:47.560]  We did file a, no, you know, Randy, I'm not going to be honest with you, it's, you know,
[01:40:47.560 --> 01:40:53.960]  wordy ad, that's the thing, the criminal complaint and taken to the right department,
[01:40:53.960 --> 01:40:56.320]  that's been an issue.
[01:40:56.320 --> 01:41:02.800]  This is the part that I'm having trouble getting people to integrate together.
[01:41:02.800 --> 01:41:11.680]  We tend to think that civil is one thing, criminal is another, and if we can get people
[01:41:11.680 --> 01:41:21.720]  to shift gears and use criminal as a way to control the civil case, criminal is the most
[01:41:21.720 --> 01:41:24.720]  powerful tool you have.
[01:41:24.720 --> 01:41:30.840]  These public officials bought and paid for, they go along, lawyers never go after judges
[01:41:30.840 --> 01:41:38.280]  ever, because, you know, this time there on one side of an issue, next time there on another
[01:41:38.280 --> 01:41:45.880]  side of an issue, judges, if you get a judge upset at you, the lawyer is certain that they
[01:41:45.880 --> 01:41:50.080]  will rule against your next client to pay you back.
[01:41:50.080 --> 01:41:58.920]  So lawyers don't do this, and because lawyers don't do this, it makes it much more powerful
[01:41:58.920 --> 01:42:02.200]  when a procé does it.
[01:42:02.200 --> 01:42:06.080]  Judges are not used to having criminal charges filed against them.
[01:42:06.080 --> 01:42:12.280]  When they start seeing criminal charges, they don't care how much money you paid them.
[01:42:12.280 --> 01:42:17.040]  That's always a crap shirt.
[01:42:17.040 --> 01:42:22.640]  You file a criminal charge against a judge, the judge has got to look around and think,
[01:42:22.640 --> 01:42:27.200]  how many enemies have I made to this point?
[01:42:27.200 --> 01:42:35.200]  Who out there is just waiting for some political cannon fodder they can use to erase my career,
[01:42:35.200 --> 01:42:39.720]  get me out of the way?
[01:42:39.720 --> 01:42:48.920]  You should look at everything they do, if something a judge does, if you can construe
[01:42:48.920 --> 01:42:55.720]  in any conceivable way that it is improper, file against you.
[01:42:55.720 --> 01:43:00.120]  Filing against the criminal charges hurts nobody.
[01:43:00.120 --> 01:43:06.360]  All you do is give notice, and then a magistrate will make a determination of probable cause.
[01:43:06.360 --> 01:43:09.880]  Well, they will always find no probable cause.
[01:43:09.880 --> 01:43:16.720]  However, the fact that the criminal filing will go on the judge's record, it puts a mark
[01:43:16.720 --> 01:43:20.360]  on his chart.
[01:43:20.360 --> 01:43:23.880]  Makes him a political liability.
[01:43:23.880 --> 01:43:28.400]  When it comes to his next election, and he's trying to get these big money backers to pay
[01:43:28.400 --> 01:43:32.280]  him a lot of money, they're going to look at that and say, you got all these complaints
[01:43:32.280 --> 01:43:35.920]  against you, can't you control your court?
[01:43:35.920 --> 01:43:41.920]  If you can't control your court, your political liability, they'll go with somebody you can.
[01:43:41.920 --> 01:43:47.600]  Does that make sense?
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[01:46:24.680 --> 01:46:51.000]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, rule of law radio here with Don Terry, and Shane, where
[01:46:51.000 --> 01:46:53.000]  are we with you?
[01:46:53.000 --> 01:46:55.800]  Okay, so that was my question.
[01:46:55.800 --> 01:47:01.800]  I'm not asking you to be a psychic or anything, but my hearing is still set for October 1st,
[01:47:01.800 --> 01:47:07.120]  and I'm asking pursuant to rule 9,014 in Tested Matters.
[01:47:07.120 --> 01:47:10.120]  It's 9,014 ahead of the back of my head.
[01:47:10.120 --> 01:47:15.800]  I think it's E and F, where it says testimony of an eyewitness with respect to the disputed
[01:47:15.800 --> 01:47:20.680]  material fact issue shall be taken in the same manner as testimony in the adversary
[01:47:20.680 --> 01:47:22.680]  proceeding that gets V.
[01:47:22.680 --> 01:47:23.680]  I'm sorry, B.
[01:47:23.680 --> 01:47:28.080]  And then E says, attendance of the eyewitness, the court shall provide procedures that enable
[01:47:28.080 --> 01:47:32.480]  parties to assert the reasonable time before any scheduled hearing, whatever the hearing
[01:47:32.480 --> 01:47:36.840]  will be, an evidentiary hearing, and which the eyewitness may be testified.
[01:47:36.840 --> 01:47:42.640]  So I need time to subpoena these people that claim they are the owner and holder of this
[01:47:42.640 --> 01:47:47.680]  or that or whatever it might be, and the assignments and transfer it all over the place, and set
[01:47:47.680 --> 01:47:55.720]  a hearing, and I ask for 60 days to put this together, and it's the children who have no
[01:47:55.720 --> 01:47:58.240]  standing to lift the state.
[01:47:58.240 --> 01:48:06.360]  If there's any place you may get the judges to rule closer to your favor, it's the bankruptcy
[01:48:06.360 --> 01:48:07.480]  courts.
[01:48:07.480 --> 01:48:14.640]  The banks have bought and paid for most of the judges, but they tend not to buy and pay
[01:48:14.640 --> 01:48:18.480]  for the bankruptcy judges.
[01:48:18.480 --> 01:48:21.800]  The bankruptcy is a whole other thing.
[01:48:21.800 --> 01:48:31.640]  So the cases that we have won were won in the bankruptcy court, where they generally
[01:48:31.640 --> 01:48:42.720]  filed a Rule 7 or Chapter 7 and claimed the property is unsecured, and then the lender
[01:48:42.720 --> 01:48:55.280]  comes in and files a bunch of documents, and then they go into court, and the lender tries
[01:48:55.280 --> 01:49:00.800]  to put these documents into the record, and the first thing they have to do, they'll put
[01:49:00.800 --> 01:49:05.120]  in the note and the deed of trust and all that.
[01:49:05.120 --> 01:49:09.760]  My favorite one was a woman in Fort Worth, she filed a direction really good, they brought
[01:49:09.760 --> 01:49:15.640]  in all this stuff and showed them to her, and she looked at them and said, Your Honor,
[01:49:15.640 --> 01:49:18.160]  I've never seen these before.
[01:49:18.160 --> 01:49:22.800]  They were the closing documents, and the judge said, You've never seen these before?
[01:49:22.800 --> 01:49:23.800]  No, Your Honor.
[01:49:23.800 --> 01:49:25.400]  Did you didn't sign that?
[01:49:25.400 --> 01:49:29.080]  No, Your Honor, I did not sign these documents.
[01:49:29.080 --> 01:49:30.080]  That's not your signature?
[01:49:30.080 --> 01:49:36.360]  I don't know whose signature that is, but I did not sign these documents, and the judge
[01:49:36.360 --> 01:49:45.720]  knew exactly where she was going, these were copies.
[01:49:45.720 --> 01:49:51.040]  She never seen these documents before, and she said the judge ground owner for about
[01:49:51.040 --> 01:49:56.720]  10 minutes, and she wouldn't back up, and this is exactly what we told her to do, and
[01:49:56.720 --> 01:50:01.960]  said, Finally, the judge sat back and grinned real big and looked over at the lawyers and
[01:50:01.960 --> 01:50:10.000]  said, Well, counselor, it seems she has never seen these documents before.
[01:50:10.000 --> 01:50:17.160]  You're going to have to bring in the originals, set it for 60 days out.
[01:50:17.160 --> 01:50:22.400]  They come back, the lawyers didn't show up.
[01:50:22.400 --> 01:50:25.320]  They wrote the whole get off.
[01:50:25.320 --> 01:50:31.280]  That's exactly what's going on right here, right now, exactly.
[01:50:31.280 --> 01:50:34.160]  They're bringing copies.
[01:50:34.160 --> 01:50:36.720]  You don't know anything about these.
[01:50:36.720 --> 01:50:37.720]  They're committing perjury.
[01:50:37.720 --> 01:50:41.000]  You're committing, what is it, five years in federal prison, half a million, or a quarter
[01:50:41.000 --> 01:50:42.000]  million dollar fine?
[01:50:42.000 --> 01:50:51.200]  Did you file perjury charges against them with the special agent charge local FBI?
[01:50:51.200 --> 01:50:52.200]  Not yet.
[01:50:52.200 --> 01:50:53.200]  Oh, do that.
[01:50:53.200 --> 01:50:55.640]  I don't know what's going to happen to hearing.
[01:50:55.640 --> 01:51:01.440]  When I do these cases, I am just looking for a reason I could file criminally against them.
[01:51:01.440 --> 01:51:03.680]  Randy, what is it right to do it though?
[01:51:03.680 --> 01:51:05.920]  Because we have a big hearing coming up October 1st.
[01:51:05.920 --> 01:51:10.560]  All I'm trying to do is get that postponement to get, you know, get to all the way because
[01:51:10.560 --> 01:51:14.920]  I'm asking to 60 days, which are draft rate and Christmas time.
[01:51:14.920 --> 01:51:17.840]  What is it right to actually file it?
[01:51:17.840 --> 01:51:20.320]  The criminal police take it to the FBI.
[01:51:20.320 --> 01:51:27.560]  The only place to file is the special agent charge because that's the only name you could
[01:51:27.560 --> 01:51:28.560]  get.
[01:51:28.560 --> 01:51:32.520]  The rest of the FBI guys are all now secret police.
[01:51:32.520 --> 01:51:34.560]  They won't tell you who they are.
[01:51:34.560 --> 01:51:37.520]  The only name you can get is the special agent charge.
[01:51:37.520 --> 01:51:40.600]  That being your local jurisdiction, correct?
[01:51:40.600 --> 01:51:41.600]  Yeah.
[01:51:41.600 --> 01:51:42.600]  Yeah.
[01:51:42.600 --> 01:51:48.800]  So criminal complaints are pretty, you're making up arguments and you have all the information
[01:51:48.800 --> 01:51:54.040]  you need to craft a really well put together criminal complaint.
[01:51:54.040 --> 01:52:00.040]  You put that in an envelope and send it to the special agent charge of the FBI.
[01:52:00.040 --> 01:52:06.680]  He's going to get it and look at it and say, yeah, I'm not going to go after these guys,
[01:52:06.680 --> 01:52:10.480]  but I've got to do cover your behind.
[01:52:10.480 --> 01:52:14.320]  So he gives this to an agent and he says, hey, call these guys, find out what's going
[01:52:14.320 --> 01:52:15.320]  on.
[01:52:15.320 --> 01:52:24.280]  And then all of a sudden the lawyers getting the call from the FBI goes to Pucker Factor.
[01:52:24.280 --> 01:52:27.480]  Now we got to be careful.
[01:52:27.480 --> 01:52:29.560]  Now we got the feds looking over our shoulder.
[01:52:29.560 --> 01:52:32.640]  Well, the feds are not really looking over their shoulder.
[01:52:32.640 --> 01:52:34.320]  They don't want to mess with it.
[01:52:34.320 --> 01:52:38.640]  They just want to be able to say they looked into it.
[01:52:38.640 --> 01:52:43.680]  But when they look into it, these lawyers are going to Pucker.
[01:52:43.680 --> 01:52:49.200]  They may get them to stop being quite so blatant in their criminal activity.
[01:52:49.200 --> 01:52:52.320]  They're not used to somebody filing criminality against them.
[01:52:52.320 --> 01:52:53.880]  It terrifies them.
[01:52:53.880 --> 01:52:54.880]  Right.
[01:52:54.880 --> 01:52:59.720]  And what if this goes to a grand jury?
[01:52:59.720 --> 01:53:05.760]  You know, we spoke to this earlier, this Scalia, and I think it was, I said, yeah, Williams
[01:53:05.760 --> 01:53:11.680]  V.U.S. said that any prosecutor worth his salt can get a ham sandwich indicted.
[01:53:11.680 --> 01:53:13.920]  And that's probably true.
[01:53:13.920 --> 01:53:18.680]  The problem they have is keeping the ham sandwich from being indicted.
[01:53:18.680 --> 01:53:24.920]  What if one of these prosecutors is a lawyer I screwed around once, screwed over sometime
[01:53:24.920 --> 01:53:34.440]  in the past, and he sees he gets a shot at me, presents me to the grand jury.
[01:53:34.440 --> 01:53:39.640]  Grand jury is always a crap shirt.
[01:53:39.640 --> 01:53:43.680]  Criminal charges against them is always a crap shirt for them.
[01:53:43.680 --> 01:53:47.320]  I'm telling you, it terrifies these guys.
[01:53:47.320 --> 01:53:48.320]  Okay.
[01:53:48.320 --> 01:53:53.520]  When you craft your criminal complaints, what do you attach to it?
[01:53:53.520 --> 01:53:58.440]  You just make an allegation and you let them research it or do you attach things to it?
[01:53:58.440 --> 01:54:01.360]  You attach evidence and support.
[01:54:01.360 --> 01:54:06.320]  The more you put in it, the more they have to work with, the more questions they'll ask
[01:54:06.320 --> 01:54:08.320]  the lawyers.
[01:54:08.320 --> 01:54:09.320]  Right.
[01:54:09.320 --> 01:54:12.520]  The lawyers do not feel protected.
[01:54:12.520 --> 01:54:13.520]  They're vulnerable.
[01:54:13.520 --> 01:54:18.400]  And when it looks like you're going straight for their throats, you know, they're looking
[01:54:18.400 --> 01:54:24.280]  at their career's ending and indictment ends their career.
[01:54:24.280 --> 01:54:27.880]  So it gets real serious real fast.
[01:54:27.880 --> 01:54:32.280]  So the question remains, when is it right to file this with the FBI?
[01:54:32.280 --> 01:54:33.280]  When is it right?
[01:54:33.280 --> 01:54:37.200]  Should I wait till after my October 1st hearing or just file it?
[01:54:37.200 --> 01:54:39.440]  File before.
[01:54:39.440 --> 01:54:41.000]  Okay.
[01:54:41.000 --> 01:54:43.600]  It's about having pressure to them.
[01:54:43.600 --> 01:54:48.000]  Every opportunity I get to file a criminal charge, they get one.
[01:54:48.000 --> 01:54:49.000]  Right.
[01:54:49.000 --> 01:54:51.960]  Cop pulls me over.
[01:54:51.960 --> 01:54:56.600]  Before he gets a ticket written, I'm making criminal accusations against him.
[01:54:56.600 --> 01:55:02.480]  I'm asking him to send an officer out to arrest him immediately.
[01:55:02.480 --> 01:55:07.480]  And all of a sudden, they get really, really careful.
[01:55:07.480 --> 01:55:08.480]  Right.
[01:55:08.480 --> 01:55:17.360]  So it's just an extra dynamic that you have available to you that they don't have available.
[01:55:17.360 --> 01:55:23.360]  So on Tuesday, I have the hearing at 1.30 and Friday they filed a proof of claim.
[01:55:23.360 --> 01:55:28.600]  But remember one thing, I found all my motions before they filed a proof of claim and I raised
[01:55:28.600 --> 01:55:32.720]  that, that they were trying to let this stay and they never filed a proof of claim.
[01:55:32.720 --> 01:55:36.280]  Now they filed a proof of claim on the very last day.
[01:55:36.280 --> 01:55:37.280]  Okay.
[01:55:37.280 --> 01:55:43.200]  They can do that if it's the last day they actually had to file and that's a standard
[01:55:43.200 --> 01:55:46.200]  practice on their course.
[01:55:46.200 --> 01:55:48.520]  You should do the same thing to them.
[01:55:48.520 --> 01:55:52.440]  But it's legal as long as you're within the time limit.
[01:55:52.440 --> 01:55:56.360]  But you can still file a motion for sanctions against them.
[01:55:56.360 --> 01:55:59.120]  You never know when the judge is PO'ed at them.
[01:55:59.120 --> 01:56:03.120]  Well, Shane, I'm sorry, I really need to take John.
[01:56:03.120 --> 01:56:04.120]  He's been real patient.
[01:56:04.120 --> 01:56:05.120]  Okay.
[01:56:05.120 --> 01:56:06.120]  And I've only got a couple minutes left.
[01:56:06.120 --> 01:56:07.120]  Yeah.
[01:56:07.120 --> 01:56:09.760]  So I should be able to get my extension.
[01:56:09.760 --> 01:56:10.760]  That was the main question.
[01:56:10.760 --> 01:56:11.760]  Yeah.
[01:56:11.760 --> 01:56:12.760]  Thank you, Randy.
[01:56:12.760 --> 01:56:13.760]  Okay.
[01:56:13.760 --> 01:56:14.760]  Thank you, Shane.
[01:56:14.760 --> 01:56:15.760]  Okay.
[01:56:15.760 --> 01:56:16.760]  We're going to John in Texas.
[01:56:16.760 --> 01:56:17.760]  Done.
[01:56:17.760 --> 01:56:18.760]  John in New York.
[01:56:18.760 --> 01:56:19.760]  Hello, John.
[01:56:19.760 --> 01:56:20.760]  Sorry, we went over.
[01:56:20.760 --> 01:56:24.760]  What do you have for us?
[01:56:24.760 --> 01:56:31.360]  Well, it looks like John fell asleep waiting on us.
[01:56:31.360 --> 01:56:32.360]  John?
[01:56:32.360 --> 01:56:36.160]  John sometimes sets down the phone and walks away.
[01:56:36.160 --> 01:56:40.960]  Oh, well, we're not having good luck with John today.
[01:56:40.960 --> 01:56:41.960]  Okay.
[01:56:41.960 --> 01:56:44.160]  We've got two minutes left.
[01:56:44.160 --> 01:56:52.560]  Don, can you kind of give us an idea of where you think you're going, where you think this
[01:56:52.560 --> 01:56:56.680]  is going to wind up?
[01:56:56.680 --> 01:57:02.200]  Not sure where it'll wind up, but we're going to pursue it further.
[01:57:02.200 --> 01:57:09.560]  Explore all the avenues that they've left us of criminality that they've done.
[01:57:09.560 --> 01:57:10.560]  Yeah.
[01:57:10.560 --> 01:57:17.360]  And looking at it, the one thing we never have problems with is finding criminal complaints.
[01:57:17.360 --> 01:57:20.560]  You know, Eddie Craig does the traffic show.
[01:57:20.560 --> 01:57:25.960]  And he would first start out calling into our show, but taking on the sales tax issue.
[01:57:25.960 --> 01:57:28.560]  And he said, but they're doing all these things wrong.
[01:57:28.560 --> 01:57:29.560]  What's my remedy?
[01:57:29.560 --> 01:57:31.560]  It's a file of criminal charges against him.
[01:57:31.560 --> 01:57:35.560]  So two weeks later, he called in and he said, I filed some criminal charges.
[01:57:35.560 --> 01:57:38.560]  Well, how many did you file?
[01:57:38.560 --> 01:57:39.560]  119.
[01:57:39.560 --> 01:57:43.560]  Well, why didn't you stop?
[01:57:43.560 --> 01:57:47.560]  I ran out of toner.
[01:57:47.560 --> 01:57:53.560]  Because we'll be able to find more criminal charges than you will believe.
[01:57:53.560 --> 01:57:57.560]  These guys screw up everything.
[01:57:57.560 --> 01:58:01.560]  And then we build this really ugly story.
[01:58:01.560 --> 01:58:07.560]  And as you go after them criminally, they screw up more stuff.
[01:58:07.560 --> 01:58:10.560]  They just cannot seem to do it right.
[01:58:10.560 --> 01:58:16.560]  They're going to follow policy all the way to their professional grave.
[01:58:16.560 --> 01:58:21.560]  And we want to assist them.
[01:58:21.560 --> 01:58:24.560]  All right.
[01:58:24.560 --> 01:58:25.560]  Okay.
[01:58:25.560 --> 01:58:26.560]  Okay.
[01:58:26.560 --> 01:58:27.560]  Thank you very much.
[01:58:27.560 --> 01:58:33.560]  And I'm hoping that you could be on next week with the people who wrote the habeas.
[01:58:33.560 --> 01:58:36.560]  I definitely want to interview them.
[01:58:36.560 --> 01:58:38.560]  That would make a great show.
[01:58:38.560 --> 01:58:39.560]  Oh, we'll try.
[01:58:39.560 --> 01:58:40.560]  Okay.
[01:58:40.560 --> 01:58:42.560]  This is Randy Kelton, rule of law radio.
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