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[00:46.320 --> 00:52.600]  In history, the year 1916, the preparedness day bombing, a timed suitcase bomb, was detonated
[00:52.600 --> 00:57.920]  on Market Street in San Francisco during the World War I preparedness day parade, killing
[00:57.920 --> 01:04.920]  10 and injuring 40 today in history.
[01:04.920 --> 01:09.640]  In recent news, since the Governor Greg Abbott signed House Bill 1325 legalizing hemp into
[01:09.640 --> 01:14.240]  taxes law back in June, county prosecutors around the state, including Houston, Austin
[01:14.240 --> 01:18.240]  and San Antonio, have been dropping marijuana possession charges and even refusing to file
[01:18.240 --> 01:22.920]  new ones since they are stipulating that they do not have the time or the laboratory equipment
[01:22.920 --> 01:24.920]  to test the herb for THC.
[01:24.920 --> 01:28.600]  Margaret Moore, the Travis County District Attorney, announced earlier this month that
[01:28.600 --> 01:33.200]  she was dismissing 32 felony possession and delivery of marijuana cases because of the
[01:33.200 --> 01:34.200]  law.
[01:34.200 --> 01:37.760]  Mr. Abbott and other state officials, including the Attorney General, stipulated in a letter
[01:37.760 --> 01:42.280]  to county district attorneys back on Thursday that marijuana has not been decriminalized
[01:42.280 --> 01:48.440]  in Texas and that these actions demonstrate a misunderstanding of how HB 1325 works, as
[01:48.440 --> 01:54.680]  well as other cities, too, like the District Attorney in El Paso, Caima Esparza, a Democrat
[01:54.680 --> 01:59.160]  who also stated earlier this month that the law, quote, will not have an effect on the
[01:59.160 --> 02:01.920]  prosecution of marijuana cases in El Paso.
[02:01.920 --> 02:06.960]  However, the issue was succinctly summarized by Mr. Brandon Ball, an assistant public defender
[02:06.960 --> 02:10.920]  in Harris County, who stated that, quote, the law is constantly changing on what makes
[02:10.920 --> 02:13.640]  something illegal based on its chemical makeup.
[02:13.640 --> 02:17.560]  It's important that if someone is charged with something, the test matches what they're
[02:17.560 --> 02:22.760]  charged with.
[02:22.760 --> 02:27.400]  A paper by Tulane University identified a five-and-a-half-inch American pocket shark
[02:27.400 --> 02:32.520]  as the first of its kind in the Gulf of Mexico, the specimen being only the second pocket
[02:32.520 --> 02:38.160]  shark ever captured or recorded with the other one being found way back in 1979 in the East
[02:38.160 --> 02:39.660]  Pacific Ocean.
[02:39.660 --> 02:43.960]  According to the university paper, the shark secretes a luminous fluid from a gland near
[02:43.960 --> 02:50.240]  its front fins for the purpose it is hypothesized to lure and prey who may be drawn into the
[02:50.240 --> 03:17.080]  glow, because his book Roadie with a Lowdown from July 22, 2019.
[03:17.080 --> 03:26.820]  Well, I received my remedy today, came in a box just like the face I accepted for value
[03:26.820 --> 03:36.520]  right away, it's not true, not later, we are originators and the pathway seems to get
[03:36.520 --> 03:47.480]  straighter every day, and I can take anything that belongs to me, okay, we are back, Randy
[03:47.480 --> 03:54.480]  Kelton, Brett Fountain with Law Radio, and we're talking to Leslie, to Bad Grandma, Arizona.
[03:54.480 --> 04:02.440]  He's like the evil smile, evil laugh you ask.
[04:02.440 --> 04:09.440]  Well, one thing's for sure, we're going to teach these judges and the attorneys a little
[04:09.440 --> 04:11.000]  bit of something new.
[04:11.000 --> 04:18.760]  The funny thing is that when we send these contracts and questionnaires and notices
[04:18.760 --> 04:27.440]  of fault, the notices of default, the notices of arbitration, they all go to the QWR address
[04:27.440 --> 04:29.400]  and they don't know what to do with them.
[04:29.400 --> 04:36.240]  So, the first time that the attorneys hear about it is when they get the award, when
[04:36.240 --> 04:46.280]  they get a copy of the award to you, you know, the people at the arbitration company send
[04:46.280 --> 04:50.000]  them the award and they say, oh, we better send this to our attorney and the attorney
[04:50.000 --> 04:55.760]  says, what's this, where does this come from, how does this happen, you know, and it's too
[04:55.760 --> 05:02.080]  late to do anything then, it's too late.
[05:02.080 --> 05:09.520]  You can be fairly certain they will start putting procedures in place, it'll still take
[05:09.520 --> 05:18.760]  time, yes it will, and bigger the company, the slower it moves, the more people it has,
[05:18.760 --> 05:26.440]  even if they come down with memos and directives, the guy sitting here, getting these documents,
[05:26.440 --> 05:32.280]  stamping them, sending them, he does the same thing all day, every day, they'll continue
[05:32.280 --> 05:38.480]  to miss it until the company does something major, it's really hard to move a big company
[05:38.480 --> 05:39.480]  like that.
[05:39.480 --> 05:49.480]  This may wind up being a very effective tool for guys who are being screwed around by the
[05:49.480 --> 05:50.480]  courts.
[05:50.480 --> 06:01.200]  It's to kind of get a trick the lawyers play on us, they've been doing it for years, yeah,
[06:01.200 --> 06:07.320]  they try to do things that we don't know how to handle, so what you're doing is the same
[06:07.320 --> 06:09.680]  thing to them.
[06:09.680 --> 06:15.240]  Yeah, because when we went in for credit card collections and stuff like that, they always
[06:15.240 --> 06:21.000]  take you to arbitration and you never win.
[06:21.000 --> 06:28.960]  So arbitration is not that, these judges should know about arbitration then.
[06:28.960 --> 06:35.600]  You would think they would, but usually they file a lawsuit first and then go to arbitration,
[06:35.600 --> 06:40.080]  the weakest one, straight to arbitration.
[06:40.080 --> 06:42.080]  That may be why they don't understand it.
[06:42.080 --> 06:46.960]  Yeah, because it doesn't have to go through a lawsuit.
[06:46.960 --> 06:52.680]  There's no requirement for a lawsuit.
[06:52.680 --> 06:59.840]  And tell me again how you initiate arbitration.
[06:59.840 --> 07:09.080]  We send a, it's like a statement of facts and you're telling them to either affirm or
[07:09.080 --> 07:15.520]  deny or agree or disagree and it's set out like a contract where you have all these statements
[07:15.520 --> 07:24.320]  and then you have the expectations and then if they don't prove these facts to be untrue,
[07:24.320 --> 07:34.200]  then they are liable to you for damages and it spells out the damages and then it says
[07:34.200 --> 07:37.480]  it's going to arbitration, it has an arbitration clause in it.
[07:37.480 --> 07:43.600]  Yeah, on the surface this sounds like UCC, but it's not, is it?
[07:43.600 --> 07:45.760]  No.
[07:45.760 --> 07:48.360]  This is federal statute.
[07:48.360 --> 08:01.680]  It's a federal arbitration act, yeah, FAA, and it's nine USC is where you find all of
[08:01.680 --> 08:05.960]  the directives on that, Title IX.
[08:05.960 --> 08:08.920]  That was the part I was most intrigued by.
[08:08.920 --> 08:15.760]  This is not your standard UCC argument.
[08:15.760 --> 08:18.560]  This is a straight statutory issue.
[08:18.560 --> 08:22.440]  But it does have UCC elements in it.
[08:22.440 --> 08:25.640]  Yeah, that's why it sounds like UCC.
[08:25.640 --> 08:34.680]  So it sounds like the process is taken from the UCC, but wherever it came from it was
[08:34.680 --> 08:42.280]  codified into U.S. code and that gives it more teeth.
[08:42.280 --> 08:48.720]  Yes, and it can be ordered by a judge or it can be part of the contract itself.
[08:48.720 --> 08:53.680]  In this case, it's part of the contract itself and if there is a disagreement on the contract
[08:53.680 --> 08:59.280]  or a noncompliance with the contract, you just send the notice that you're requesting arbitration.
[08:59.280 --> 09:01.880]  That's all this requires.
[09:01.880 --> 09:10.480]  So this kind of goes to TWIL and under UCC we want to say, we want to say the contract
[09:10.480 --> 09:17.880]  guys, the UCC guys are saying that if I send you this offer to contract, you are obligated
[09:17.880 --> 09:20.920]  to respond to me and I said, no, I'm not.
[09:20.920 --> 09:26.120]  I don't mean, you know, you see me an offer to contract.
[09:26.120 --> 09:32.720]  I can agree to it, but I don't have to deny it or refuse it.
[09:32.720 --> 09:35.280]  I can just ignore it because...
[09:35.280 --> 09:36.280]  So this is written so that...
[09:36.280 --> 09:37.280]  Yeah.
[09:37.280 --> 09:40.040]  This is written so that if they fail to respond...
[09:40.040 --> 09:45.320]  If they fail to respond to this, it's accepted as pass it, accepted to the contract.
[09:45.320 --> 09:46.320]  Exactly.
[09:46.320 --> 09:55.520]  What TWIL says is failure to respond when you have a duty to respond and this is what
[09:55.520 --> 09:57.720]  the contract guys were screwing up.
[09:57.720 --> 10:03.640]  They're saying, I can send you a contract and somehow that invokes a duty on your part
[10:03.640 --> 10:07.000]  to respond and that wasn't the case.
[10:07.000 --> 10:16.520]  But here, now under US Code 9, in this case, you have a statutory duty to respond when
[10:16.520 --> 10:19.640]  it's a petition for arbitration.
[10:19.640 --> 10:27.760]  So now, TWIL applies when you fail to respond when you have a duty and that was when we
[10:27.760 --> 10:33.640]  first talked about it was the part I had the most difficulty wrapping my head around but
[10:33.640 --> 10:42.160]  then when you referenced it to US Code 9, it's statute, it's not contract law.
[10:42.160 --> 10:52.360]  Not only that, but sending it to the QWR department doesn't...
[10:52.360 --> 10:59.000]  You can put in the first couple paragraphs, items that would be...
[10:59.000 --> 11:00.000]  What would you call it?
[11:00.000 --> 11:01.000]  QWR documents.
[11:01.000 --> 11:04.240]  In a qualified written request.
[11:04.240 --> 11:08.040]  So it looks like a qualified written request.
[11:08.040 --> 11:12.560]  But also so that it gives them an additional duty to respond and it says that you have
[11:12.560 --> 11:17.440]  to respond to each and every paragraph.
[11:17.440 --> 11:25.560]  I have a 20-something page qualified written request and it asks for all kinds of garbage
[11:25.560 --> 11:34.880]  that you're not really allowed to ask for in a qualified written request.
[11:34.880 --> 11:37.360]  But I've got it in there anyway.
[11:37.360 --> 11:42.320]  And the reason it's in there is so that the lawyer will say, ah, this is garbage, this
[11:42.320 --> 11:49.800]  is garbage, this is garbage and won't get to the last paragraph that's a notice of
[11:49.800 --> 11:50.800]  rescission.
[11:50.800 --> 11:51.800]  Exactly.
[11:51.800 --> 11:58.200]  I've never had one notice, oh, I'm sorry, I did have one response that referenced the
[11:58.200 --> 12:01.640]  notice of rescission.
[12:01.640 --> 12:02.640]  Nobody else...
[12:02.640 --> 12:06.880]  They didn't go that far and that sounds like what you're documenting.
[12:06.880 --> 12:11.240]  This is the exact kind of dirty tricks lawyers pull.
[12:11.240 --> 12:12.240]  Yes.
[12:12.240 --> 12:16.840]  That's what makes it sweet.
[12:16.840 --> 12:22.600]  Turnabout's fair play.
[12:22.600 --> 12:27.280]  That was a main issue that this is statutory and it's not commercial.
[12:27.280 --> 12:32.560]  Well, not only that, but you could add other elements to it too.
[12:32.560 --> 12:38.640]  For instance, in particular, if you have somebody sending you a loan modification, it could be
[12:38.640 --> 12:44.040]  used as a counterclaim and proof of interest or something like that.
[12:44.040 --> 12:53.680]  A counterclaim and an alternative modification document.
[12:53.680 --> 13:02.160]  So it's a response to their modification request, to their offer of the modification.
[13:02.160 --> 13:06.920]  So they would have to respond to it as a counteroffer.
[13:06.920 --> 13:10.080]  Since they may be offered.
[13:10.080 --> 13:11.080]  Yes.
[13:11.080 --> 13:15.960]  So they may be offered, then they open the door.
[13:15.960 --> 13:16.960]  Yes.
[13:16.960 --> 13:23.840]  So you could use it as a response to a loan modification request and as soon as you go
[13:23.840 --> 13:27.160]  into foreclosure, they will send you one.
[13:27.160 --> 13:30.240]  And before they can finish foreclosure, you'll have your award.
[13:30.240 --> 13:32.880]  Oh, this is good.
[13:32.880 --> 13:36.280]  You got it?
[13:36.280 --> 13:41.880]  I'm getting it, it's taken a while for me to get my head wrapped around it.
[13:41.880 --> 13:46.920]  But the fact that it's statutory, that changes the whole perspective.
[13:46.920 --> 13:52.320]  There's no more gray area here.
[13:52.320 --> 14:01.320]  So since we have a statutory duty, now all we have to do is be in contractual privity
[14:01.320 --> 14:03.160]  with the other party.
[14:03.160 --> 14:04.160]  Right.
[14:04.160 --> 14:09.160]  Yeah, otherwise there's no relationship, just wouldn't work on it.
[14:09.160 --> 14:15.040]  And so if you have a reason for them to respond to you on anything that you send, so if you
[14:15.040 --> 14:20.440]  have an open account and you send it like a QWR and have all the other stuff attached
[14:20.440 --> 14:24.680]  so that they don't grab it all at once, and they'll say, ah, I'm going to get through
[14:24.680 --> 14:29.400]  this crap, just like you said with the other QWR, they're screwed.
[14:29.400 --> 14:34.680]  Okay, I have someone I want to get you in contact with.
[14:34.680 --> 14:38.080]  Oh, this is good.
[14:38.080 --> 14:46.160]  Okay, we've got a couple more callers coming on board.
[14:46.160 --> 14:49.400]  Leslie, you're always a good caller.
[14:49.400 --> 14:52.000]  You always have good information.
[14:52.000 --> 14:55.600]  But keep us apprised of what occurs with this judge.
[14:55.600 --> 14:57.600]  It's going to be very interesting.
[14:57.600 --> 14:59.600]  Okay, Doug.
[14:59.600 --> 15:08.280]  For me, it'll be interesting to see how the judge responds to instruction from a client,
[15:08.280 --> 15:10.800]  I mean from a litigant.
[15:10.800 --> 15:13.320]  This is really what they're supposed to do.
[15:13.320 --> 15:18.680]  And the fact that you have a lawyer, go ahead.
[15:18.680 --> 15:23.360]  I want you to read the documents that I've put into Skype for you when you get off the
[15:23.360 --> 15:26.720]  air and then you'll have an idea of how I'm approaching this.
[15:26.720 --> 15:27.720]  Okay.
[15:27.720 --> 15:28.720]  We're confused.
[15:28.720 --> 15:29.720]  We're confused.
[15:29.720 --> 15:39.040]  I'm getting a little more excited about it and I've got some people I'll be sending you.
[15:39.040 --> 15:45.240]  I've gotten a lot of people already that you've got.
[15:45.240 --> 15:53.120]  Okay, thank you, Leslie, and keep us up to speed on what occurs.
[15:53.120 --> 15:55.240]  I will, I will.
[15:55.240 --> 15:58.160]  Okay, good night.
[15:58.160 --> 16:01.760]  Now we're going to go to Ken in New York.
[16:01.760 --> 16:02.760]  Hello, Ken.
[16:02.760 --> 16:03.760]  Hello, Randy.
[16:03.760 --> 16:04.760]  Hello, Brad.
[16:04.760 --> 16:08.680]  And, you know, you're right about Leslie.
[16:08.680 --> 16:14.800]  She has a very evil laugh but in a cute sort of way, if you can find us on it.
[16:14.800 --> 16:17.760]  You can't help but enjoy it.
[16:17.760 --> 16:18.760]  Yeah.
[16:18.760 --> 16:22.360]  I mean, I've been listening to her.
[16:22.360 --> 16:24.200]  She's not an attorney, is she?
[16:24.200 --> 16:26.720]  I mean, she just thought it out as a caller?
[16:26.720 --> 16:30.560]  Yeah, she's not an attorney.
[16:30.560 --> 16:36.760]  She started out as a caller, we told her what to do, and she went and researched what we
[16:36.760 --> 16:41.840]  told her and she did it better than we suggested.
[16:41.840 --> 16:47.560]  She sent me some of her documents and I looked at those and said I would that I could produce
[16:47.560 --> 16:52.760]  such a beautiful piece of work.
[16:52.760 --> 16:59.760]  The only way you can tell her documents are not, okay, we'll be right back.
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[19:31.880 --> 19:58.240]  Okay, we are back, we're in the Kelton fountain with our radio and we're going to, we're
[19:58.240 --> 20:00.840]  talking to Ken in New York.
[20:00.840 --> 20:04.720]  Okay, Ken, what do you have for us today?
[20:04.720 --> 20:13.840]  I've decided that what irks me the most is the infestation of attorneys into the public
[20:13.840 --> 20:22.280]  office and, you know, I'm talking from the town of Brookhaven, New York, which is also
[20:22.280 --> 20:23.280]  known as Court of Justice.
[20:23.280 --> 20:27.800]  Okay, let me give you a statistic that'll irk you even more.
[20:27.800 --> 20:31.960]  I love the word infestation.
[20:31.960 --> 20:40.920]  In the United States, there are 1,080,000 licensed practicing attorneys.
[20:40.920 --> 20:48.560]  There are more licensed attorneys than that, but only 1,080,000 are licensed and practicing.
[20:48.560 --> 20:58.840]  In the world, there are approximately 1,600,000 lawyers.
[20:58.840 --> 21:04.200]  But you know, for all this practicing, they never seem to get it right, do they?
[21:04.200 --> 21:06.720]  Yes, right.
[21:06.720 --> 21:13.360]  That statistic, it includes the United States.
[21:13.360 --> 21:19.520]  We have more lawyers in the United States than the rest of the world combined.
[21:19.520 --> 21:30.560]  It's almost like we have more people in prison than the world, we have more people in prison.
[21:30.560 --> 21:34.480]  We have 3% of the world's population.
[21:34.480 --> 21:41.480]  We house 20% of the world's population of inmates, worst police state the world has
[21:41.480 --> 21:46.680]  ever seen by far.
[21:46.680 --> 21:48.320]  Nobody seems to realize it.
[21:48.320 --> 21:54.160]  But then again, if you were in a police state, the vast majority of the people never have
[21:54.160 --> 21:56.000]  any problem with the police state.
[21:56.000 --> 22:00.840]  So they don't really realize they're in a police state, unless you're at war in a
[22:00.840 --> 22:05.440]  police state like Nazi Germany.
[22:05.440 --> 22:07.320]  This is by far the worst.
[22:07.320 --> 22:13.400]  Nazi Germany never incarcerated anyone near the relative number of people the United States
[22:13.400 --> 22:14.400]  does.
[22:14.400 --> 22:16.400]  Anyway, it's a mess.
[22:16.400 --> 22:20.720]  We have too many lawyers, way too many lawyers.
[22:20.720 --> 22:24.800]  You touched on something earlier.
[22:24.800 --> 22:32.200]  We have another public official, a county legislator that just got arrested.
[22:32.200 --> 22:41.040]  And it has, what it will go to is, if you're suing a, let's say for example, a public
[22:41.040 --> 22:47.000]  official is harassing you, which you have some cases, I think Tim, you mentioned them.
[22:47.000 --> 22:53.560]  If this is public official, if you get into court and you get discovery, or you get into
[22:53.560 --> 23:02.040]  a suit and you get discovery, do you have the right or the can you go to court?
[23:02.040 --> 23:08.200]  Do you go fishing around for other things, like things that would hint at corruption,
[23:08.200 --> 23:13.640]  like when this person making other forms of income and et cetera?
[23:13.640 --> 23:22.040]  Only if you can show that what you're looking for is relevant to the instant case.
[23:22.040 --> 23:23.040]  Okay.
[23:23.040 --> 23:29.440]  Well, I once got it allowed by, say, just telling the judge, I'm looking for a pattern
[23:29.440 --> 23:31.200]  in practice here.
[23:31.200 --> 23:38.680]  It seems to be that there's a pattern of this behavior, and I need to confirm that.
[23:38.680 --> 23:48.640]  Well, I sent you the email of it earlier, and it's the newspaper article of it.
[23:48.640 --> 23:50.000]  There's several of them.
[23:50.000 --> 23:51.720]  Wait a minute.
[23:51.720 --> 23:54.920]  Was this the one where they're dragging the judge out of the courtroom?
[23:54.920 --> 23:55.920]  No, no, no.
[23:55.920 --> 23:56.920]  No.
[23:56.920 --> 23:58.960]  This is a county legislator.
[23:58.960 --> 24:02.960]  He was a fireman, he ran for public office.
[24:02.960 --> 24:08.840]  The legislator, we have term limited out after 12 years, and was a Democrat.
[24:08.840 --> 24:09.840]  This guy is a Republican.
[24:09.840 --> 24:16.360]  He's supposed to be a good family, managed by the fire chief, he's supposed to be an
[24:16.360 --> 24:18.880]  upstanding member of the community.
[24:18.880 --> 24:27.720]  Well, he has a salary of $102,000, and I guess he decided that was a big step down from the
[24:27.720 --> 24:33.800]  $175,000 he was making as the manager of a fire district.
[24:33.800 --> 24:38.360]  Now we have old volunteers that he went out like New York City, and this guy's making
[24:38.360 --> 24:42.920]  $175,000 a year, he runs for public office.
[24:42.920 --> 24:48.880]  Now he's making $102,000, he sets the shell corporation up through his wife, and then
[24:48.880 --> 24:55.760]  he starts consulting with the same fire departments he was working for originally at the price
[24:55.760 --> 24:59.360]  of $10,000 a month.
[24:59.360 --> 25:04.440]  And the district attorney caught him, and I'm arrested.
[25:04.440 --> 25:11.440]  And they're going through the usual thing, this is a political attack on my career.
[25:11.440 --> 25:17.080]  What did he do to get the district attorney upset at?
[25:17.080 --> 25:21.440]  Well the whistleblower blew the whistle on him, and that's what got the district attorney
[25:21.440 --> 25:23.040]  involved in it.
[25:23.040 --> 25:34.240]  He is serving, we have a county law against serving public official, also trying to make
[25:34.240 --> 25:38.960]  money in another office.
[25:38.960 --> 25:47.680]  For example, he used to be in the fire department, but now he is a legislator, he can no longer
[25:47.680 --> 25:51.760]  make any money from any other public office.
[25:51.760 --> 26:02.120]  And apparently the public office previously was a manager of a fire district, but he set
[26:02.120 --> 26:09.760]  a corporation up in his wife's name, and he went back to doing consulting work, so to
[26:09.760 --> 26:10.760]  speak.
[26:10.760 --> 26:18.400]  I don't know, $10,000 a month, he'd made $60,000 before somebody blew the whistle on him, and
[26:18.400 --> 26:19.400]  they arrested him.
[26:19.400 --> 26:27.000]  When they died, they brought it to a jury, grand jury in Suffolk County, and they decided
[26:27.000 --> 26:29.760]  to go forward with it.
[26:29.760 --> 26:35.520]  He must have made someone really upset at him, because generally public officials protect
[26:35.520 --> 26:36.520]  public officials.
[26:36.520 --> 26:43.360]  Unless it wasn't, I mean he's a volunteer fire department, I'm thinking I never heard
[26:43.360 --> 26:47.320]  anybody making $175,000 a year.
[26:47.320 --> 26:53.320]  You know, all the little guys going around, you know, responding to the fires, and taking
[26:53.320 --> 26:55.320]  the risk and doing it for free.
[26:55.320 --> 27:08.080]  Right, this guy's making $175,000, and then he was planning, he said he lied too by the
[27:08.080 --> 27:16.360]  way, they got him a perjury, five counts perjury, where he said that he did not make any money
[27:16.360 --> 27:20.760]  through this corporation, and he thought of what turned out, he was signing the checks.
[27:20.760 --> 27:27.040]  Then he was using a debit card, and he was buying groceries, and his daughter's dancing
[27:27.040 --> 27:28.040]  lesson.
[27:28.040 --> 27:34.360]  These people are crazy, don't they realize they're going to court the one and stuff?
[27:34.360 --> 27:42.600]  Okay, that leads to a document I once produced called the Rubber Bowl Theory.
[27:42.600 --> 27:55.160]  I'm trying to set up a webpage for that, and it goes to kind of explain this kind of situation.
[27:55.160 --> 28:01.640]  One of the truisms it demonstrates is that you will not achieve in your life what you
[28:01.640 --> 28:05.400]  want or what you wish for.
[28:05.400 --> 28:08.120]  You will create your internal expectations.
[28:08.120 --> 28:12.920]  Grab as much as you can, won't you?
[28:12.920 --> 28:21.080]  Well, no, your expectations, if you were raised, take the child who was abused all his life,
[28:21.080 --> 28:24.880]  take him out of the abusive environment, treat him the way he's always wanted and always
[28:24.880 --> 28:27.520]  wished for.
[28:27.520 --> 28:34.840]  You have to expect he's going to crap all over you, and that's because this is what
[28:34.840 --> 28:38.280]  he's always wanted and what he's always wished for.
[28:38.280 --> 28:44.720]  But this is an environment in which he doesn't know how to react and respond.
[28:44.720 --> 28:50.520]  And internally, there's nothing more threatening for us than pattern interruption than to have
[28:50.520 --> 28:56.080]  something occur for which we do not have a behavior.
[28:56.080 --> 29:04.080]  This is a technique public officials use to disable us when we're trying to seek
[29:04.080 --> 29:05.880]  remedy.
[29:05.880 --> 29:08.280]  They violate our expectations.
[29:08.280 --> 29:14.680]  We're taught in school from the time we first have a civics class that we live in this great
[29:14.680 --> 29:19.840]  country with all these rights and absolute rights and privileges that nobody can take
[29:19.840 --> 29:25.400]  from you, and the government is there to protect you and ensure you have these rights.
[29:25.400 --> 29:32.200]  First time you have something to do with the government, you find out that was all trash.
[29:32.200 --> 29:38.640]  The government is not there to protect you, they're your biggest enemy and we feel betrayed.
[29:38.640 --> 29:43.120]  And when we feel betrayed, we feel helpless.
[29:43.120 --> 29:45.120]  That's what they want.
[29:45.120 --> 30:03.000]  Moving on, I'll address this a little further on the other side.
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[33:29.920 --> 33:30.920]  We are back.
[33:30.920 --> 33:39.800]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain on this Friday, the 26th day of July, 2019.
[33:39.800 --> 33:44.720]  And we're talking to Ken in New York.
[33:44.720 --> 33:45.720]  People do opposites.
[33:45.720 --> 33:53.680]  I have a document called the Rubber Bowl Theory, and it addresses pattern interruption
[33:53.680 --> 34:02.840]  and a method for effectively reprogramming your life, but it leads to something.
[34:02.840 --> 34:05.960]  Take the child that's been abused all his life, treating the way he's always wanted
[34:05.960 --> 34:11.800]  and always wished for, and he's going to respond badly.
[34:11.800 --> 34:19.040]  And that's because he hasn't had opportunity to learn how to react and respond in these
[34:19.040 --> 34:20.040]  circumstances.
[34:20.040 --> 34:25.200]  So while he likes it, he's uncomfortable.
[34:25.200 --> 34:30.880]  He's always looking around, waiting for the other foot to fall.
[34:30.880 --> 34:34.240]  And if it doesn't, he will create it.
[34:34.240 --> 34:37.280]  And then when it does, oh, this is awful.
[34:37.280 --> 34:38.280]  This is horrible.
[34:38.280 --> 34:45.120]  But at least I know how to react and respond in this environment.
[34:45.120 --> 34:51.720]  And that leads to my contention that people do opposites.
[34:51.720 --> 34:52.720]  Not everybody.
[34:52.720 --> 35:01.480]  But if you ever come across someone who reacts in a way that stands out from the cultural
[35:01.480 --> 35:10.720]  norm, I was getting a phone, I was changing my phone-con carrier, and I'm in this phone
[35:10.720 --> 35:14.680]  company, a cricket or something.
[35:14.680 --> 35:19.200]  And these other two people came in and they did, bought something or did something, and
[35:19.200 --> 35:25.240]  then they asked us if we were, if we had come to God.
[35:25.240 --> 35:30.080]  Now if you listen to this show, you know I'm not particularly religious, but you also know
[35:30.080 --> 35:38.360]  that I don't have, you know, I respect religion as my, it's my consideration that the Bible
[35:38.360 --> 35:45.400]  is a compendium of cultural wisdom.
[35:45.400 --> 35:57.040]  But these two people standing in front of us professing their Christianity made me think,
[35:57.040 --> 36:02.320]  therefore, when Thou doest thine arms, be not like the scribes and Pharisees who pray
[36:02.320 --> 36:08.520]  in the streets in synagogues to have glory of men, for thoroughly, you know that part.
[36:08.520 --> 36:14.800]  These guys are doing things that really stand out from the cultural norm, and the very belief
[36:14.800 --> 36:20.920]  system that they're proclaiming forbids them from doing this, but they do it anyway.
[36:20.920 --> 36:32.960]  Now I ask myself, what statement are they trying to make to me about themselves?
[36:32.960 --> 36:39.760]  Because I consider that everything someone says or does can be construed as a statement
[36:39.760 --> 36:43.000]  to the self about the self.
[36:43.000 --> 36:49.600]  Everything I do is a projection of who I am, the way I stand, the way I dress, the way
[36:49.600 --> 36:52.960]  I interact with other people.
[36:52.960 --> 37:01.360]  I'm expressing my image of who I am on the world.
[37:01.360 --> 37:04.760]  Our scientists sent a probe to Mars.
[37:04.760 --> 37:12.080]  The first probe we sent, Carl Sagan, said it was about as smart as a grasshopper.
[37:12.080 --> 37:17.560]  But if you were on Mars and you saw this probe enter the Martian environment, slow, subtle
[37:17.560 --> 37:22.920]  to the ground, stock popping covers, arms moving, digging dirt, doing all kinds of stuff, you
[37:22.920 --> 37:26.160]  would think it was intelligent.
[37:26.160 --> 37:34.240]  But what was going on here was we had a set of scientists on Earth who had these ideas
[37:34.240 --> 37:38.400]  about the nature of the Martian environment.
[37:38.400 --> 37:48.280]  And based on these ideas, they developed certain theories and projections.
[37:48.280 --> 37:53.720]  And then they built experiments to test their theories and projections.
[37:53.720 --> 37:57.680]  They sent those experiments to this probe.
[37:57.680 --> 38:05.240]  I think of the probe as a good representation of the conscious aspect of the living mind.
[38:05.240 --> 38:09.120]  That's the part of our mind that deals and interacts with our environment.
[38:09.120 --> 38:15.320]  And it does so through a number of instruments, approximately five of them.
[38:15.320 --> 38:19.480]  Those instruments are able to detect different aspects of the Martian environment.
[38:19.480 --> 38:25.600]  One of them detects electromagnetic radiation in the atmosphere.
[38:25.600 --> 38:29.040]  One detects temperature and pressure.
[38:29.040 --> 38:31.280]  One detects vibrations.
[38:31.280 --> 38:33.920]  I think you get the message.
[38:33.920 --> 38:38.000]  One detects chemicals in the atmosphere.
[38:38.000 --> 38:39.200]  But they're all restricted.
[38:39.200 --> 38:44.640]  They only detect information within a fixed range.
[38:44.640 --> 38:50.200]  So we monitor these environments, and there's some part inside us that gathers all this
[38:50.200 --> 38:52.920]  information tries to make sense of it.
[38:52.920 --> 38:56.400]  And we develop an idea of who and what we are.
[38:56.400 --> 39:03.480]  And when we interact with our environment, we push our theories out on the environment.
[39:03.480 --> 39:09.720]  And we have these ideas of how the environment should respond to us.
[39:09.720 --> 39:18.720]  If it responds the way we expect, then we mark this down as accurate and correct and reusable.
[39:18.720 --> 39:22.640]  But if we get a response we don't expect, and we say, hey, wait a minute, wait a minute,
[39:22.640 --> 39:27.960]  the inner mind pushes into the conscious awareness and says, wait a minute, something's wrong
[39:27.960 --> 39:29.520]  here.
[39:29.520 --> 39:32.840]  We got to make some adjustments and fix it.
[39:32.840 --> 39:34.840]  Well, this part's in the verbal theory.
[39:34.840 --> 39:39.240]  It's about pattern interruption.
[39:39.240 --> 39:50.000]  But sometimes we have people who don't notice the external environment very well.
[39:50.000 --> 39:57.160]  And they have a notion, this pathological, that they're trying to push on the environment.
[39:57.160 --> 40:02.080]  When you notice someone who acts outside the cultural norm, that means they're not picking
[40:02.080 --> 40:09.720]  up the clues that what they're doing is not fitting with the cultural norm.
[40:09.720 --> 40:13.840]  Whenever I see that, I always ask myself, what statement is that person making to himself
[40:13.840 --> 40:15.680]  about himself?
[40:15.680 --> 40:21.040]  What's he trying to convince me of and thereby convince himself of?
[40:21.040 --> 40:27.240]  And there's an example I use that if you're Christian, don't be offended by this.
[40:27.240 --> 40:30.120]  What I call Jesus Fricks.
[40:30.120 --> 40:34.320]  These aren't the truly religious people.
[40:34.320 --> 40:39.960]  Pastor Mass is one of my best friends and he's a pastor and I call him Master Pastor
[40:39.960 --> 40:42.880]  because he has control issues.
[40:42.880 --> 40:44.280]  But that's not what I'm talking about.
[40:44.280 --> 40:53.360]  I'm talking about the ones that you look at him and their posture says, oh, look at me.
[40:53.360 --> 40:56.920]  I'm so pious.
[40:56.920 --> 41:07.920]  I ask myself, what is he trying to convince me of and thereby convince himself of?
[41:07.920 --> 41:15.720]  And I presume that what he's trying to convince me of that stands out from the cultural norm.
[41:15.720 --> 41:21.040]  That he's thereby trying to convince himself of is the opposite of what he really believes.
[41:21.040 --> 41:25.000]  People do opposites.
[41:25.000 --> 41:33.720]  We project ourselves in one place, but we really live in another.
[41:33.720 --> 41:34.720]  What's his name?
[41:34.720 --> 41:36.720]  I keep losing his name.
[41:36.720 --> 41:40.680]  No, thank you for a minute, man.
[41:40.680 --> 41:50.280]  Anyway, we had a guy running for president and I think it was when Reagan was, oh, seven
[41:50.280 --> 41:52.280]  Gary Hart.
[41:52.280 --> 42:01.320]  He was essentially a shoe in for the Democratic nomination, young guy, successful businessman,
[42:01.320 --> 42:04.200]  the favorite for the nomination.
[42:04.200 --> 42:06.200]  He is in Miami, Florida.
[42:06.200 --> 42:13.560]  He's married, got two or three kids, and he's getting on a yacht with this woman who is
[42:13.560 --> 42:22.520]  at best of ill repute, was known to be a prostitute.
[42:22.520 --> 42:26.920]  What were you thinking?
[42:26.920 --> 42:30.660]  We tend to bring about our own downfall.
[42:30.660 --> 42:33.320]  We create our expectations.
[42:33.320 --> 42:39.440]  He presented himself as this good and righteous, hardworking businessman, but deep in his heart
[42:39.440 --> 42:41.160]  where he lived.
[42:41.160 --> 42:47.920]  He knew he was a scoundrel and we tend to, you know, I don't know if God created us,
[42:47.920 --> 42:51.000]  but if he did, he gave us honesty genes.
[42:51.000 --> 42:54.240]  If we lie, we pay.
[42:54.240 --> 43:10.160]  And he's lying, oh, who is the pilot for the religious guy?
[43:10.160 --> 43:11.840]  I'm getting old of losing names.
[43:11.840 --> 43:14.120]  We're about to go to break.
[43:14.120 --> 43:15.640]  I'll finish this on the other side.
[43:15.640 --> 43:23.480]  I don't want to spend too much time with it, but where am I making sense?
[43:23.480 --> 43:25.760]  Well, I hear you.
[43:25.760 --> 43:28.040]  I'm going to listen in to put the pieces together.
[43:28.040 --> 43:29.040]  Okay.
[43:29.040 --> 43:32.000]  I'll try to patch the pieces together on the other side.
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[46:25.200 --> 46:33.200]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, rule of law radio, and talking to Ken in New York.
[46:33.200 --> 46:36.200]  Jimmy Swagger, that's who I was trying to think of.
[46:36.200 --> 46:42.200]  Jimmy Swagger, born deep in the Bible Belt, told from day one he was basically rotten,
[46:42.200 --> 46:45.200]  vile, and no good.
[46:45.200 --> 46:48.200]  He did not like hearing he was rotten, vile, and no good.
[46:48.200 --> 46:57.200]  It wasn't intended that he would, but he believed it because the Giants told him that.
[46:57.200 --> 47:06.200]  He wanted that not to be true, so he did everything he could to prove to everybody that, in fact,
[47:06.200 --> 47:08.200]  he was not rotten, vile, and no good.
[47:08.200 --> 47:10.200]  He was good kind of virtuous.
[47:10.200 --> 47:13.200]  He did it by doing all these good kind of virtuous things, and everybody said,
[47:13.200 --> 47:19.200]  oh, wow, you're a really good kind and virtuous problem.
[47:19.200 --> 47:25.200]  Deep in his heart where he lived, he knew he was basically rotten, vile, and no good,
[47:25.200 --> 47:29.200]  and he was lying to these good people.
[47:29.200 --> 47:32.200]  So he went to New Orleans.
[47:32.200 --> 47:39.200]  Now, if you saw God walking down the street in New Orleans at that time, you might not recognize him,
[47:39.200 --> 47:42.200]  but they knew Jimmy Swagger.
[47:42.200 --> 47:44.200]  He was very well known there.
[47:44.200 --> 47:51.200]  So he hires this prostitute and has her take her clothes off and takes pictures of her.
[47:51.200 --> 47:57.200]  Now, I'm sure he wasn't consciously thinking hard evidence, hard evidence,
[47:57.200 --> 48:01.200]  but he's already knew exactly what he was doing.
[48:01.200 --> 48:04.200]  Well, that didn't get him in trouble.
[48:04.200 --> 48:07.200]  So he goes back to New Orleans, hires his prostitute, has her take her clothes off,
[48:07.200 --> 48:10.200]  and get out of the limo.
[48:10.200 --> 48:13.200]  Everybody knew who he was.
[48:13.200 --> 48:17.200]  He brought the sky in on him, and all of these deacons were saying,
[48:17.200 --> 48:23.200]  oh, the demons got into him, and there may be demons, but this ain't demons, guys.
[48:23.200 --> 48:25.200]  You're not listening.
[48:25.200 --> 48:29.200]  He's trying to tell you something, and you're not listening.
[48:29.200 --> 48:34.200]  I told my wife, he's going to do this again, and he did.
[48:34.200 --> 48:40.200]  But after the second time, he seemed to figure it out, and then he got it fixed.
[48:40.200 --> 48:51.200]  Had they asked themselves, what is he trying to tell us by his behavior?
[48:51.200 --> 48:58.200]  Instead of marking a label of evil on him, or demons.
[48:58.200 --> 49:05.200]  The Bible forbids that.
[49:05.200 --> 49:09.200]  You know what the real problem was?
[49:09.200 --> 49:14.200]  He was always jealous of his relative, Jerry Lee Lewis.
[49:14.200 --> 49:19.200]  They both learned on the same piano.
[49:19.200 --> 49:23.200]  What happened there? Jerry Lee Lewis did polarity response.
[49:23.200 --> 49:26.200]  I have a sister who does polarity response.
[49:26.200 --> 49:29.200]  If you say, Linda, don't do that.
[49:29.200 --> 49:32.200]  She'll do it, but her lips the pope.
[49:32.200 --> 49:35.200]  And not because she wants to.
[49:35.200 --> 49:38.200]  She's just wired that way.
[49:38.200 --> 49:41.200]  They told Jerry Lee Lewis he was basically rotten violent.
[49:41.200 --> 49:42.200]  No good.
[49:42.200 --> 49:45.200]  He said, okay, I can go with that.
[49:45.200 --> 49:50.200]  He did polarity response, but Jimmy Swagger didn't.
[49:50.200 --> 49:55.200]  He took it to heart, and it ruined his life.
[49:55.200 --> 49:59.200]  So he finally apparently figured it out.
[49:59.200 --> 50:13.200]  But the people around him, had they understood, pay attention to what people do that stand out from the cultural norm and ask yourself, what are they trying to tell you about themselves?
[50:13.200 --> 50:18.200]  You'll come to a whole different set of conclusions.
[50:18.200 --> 50:24.200]  And this guy, this guy's making a hundred and seventy grand a year.
[50:24.200 --> 50:32.200]  He is a volunteer fireman who rises up to this top position.
[50:32.200 --> 50:34.200]  Yeah, well respected.
[50:34.200 --> 50:36.200]  He's a hero.
[50:36.200 --> 50:39.200]  I have just another comment on it.
[50:39.200 --> 50:42.200]  The Republican Party.
[50:42.200 --> 51:01.200]  Hack said that the leader of the Republican Party, of course, stuck up for him and said, well, I am shocked at these baseless charges that have been brought against the man who for more than thirty two years has voluntarily run into fires to save the lives, homes and businesses of neighbors he did not even know.
[51:01.200 --> 51:07.200]  I looked out and I said, wait a minute, the guy's only forty nine years old.
[51:07.200 --> 51:13.200]  I don't think these people are all nuts.
[51:13.200 --> 51:19.200]  Yeah, I think the problem was that his mother never said no to one.
[51:19.200 --> 51:21.200]  That's what I wanted to do.
[51:21.200 --> 51:27.200]  Still everything you said in less than a hour down, his mother and father never said no.
[51:27.200 --> 51:29.200]  It was not that easy.
[51:29.200 --> 51:41.200]  He was making a hundred and seventy thousand a year as a respected fireman and he becomes a politician.
[51:41.200 --> 51:42.200]  Yeah.
[51:42.200 --> 51:49.200]  And he takes a fifty, sixty thousand or fifty thousand dollar decrease in pay.
[51:49.200 --> 51:50.200]  Right.
[51:50.200 --> 51:54.200]  And then he steals ten thousand a month.
[51:54.200 --> 51:57.200]  What is wrong with this picture?
[51:57.200 --> 52:01.200]  What is wrong with this person?
[52:01.200 --> 52:07.200]  I'm saying, look at him from a different perspective.
[52:07.200 --> 52:13.200]  He may be telling you or trying to tell everybody who he really is.
[52:13.200 --> 52:16.200]  We got honesty genes.
[52:16.200 --> 52:17.200]  They nag us.
[52:17.200 --> 52:22.200]  We live in, we are human beings, herd.
[52:22.200 --> 52:24.200]  We have a herding gene.
[52:24.200 --> 52:32.200]  That's why you can get teenagers to go to war and even risk dying and that's to protect the herd.
[52:32.200 --> 52:34.200]  So you're part of the herd.
[52:34.200 --> 52:43.200]  One of the instinctual requirements for the herd is honesty between the members.
[52:43.200 --> 52:46.200]  Otherwise the herd will fall apart.
[52:46.200 --> 52:51.200]  So he's got this instinctual honesty gene.
[52:51.200 --> 52:52.200]  Right.
[52:52.200 --> 52:56.200]  And at some point he's trying to tell the truth.
[52:56.200 --> 53:05.200]  If the people around him don't recognize and understand what's going on here, then he's wasting his time and he's wasting his life.
[53:05.200 --> 53:14.200]  My philosophy has always been I'm just like an old, you know, like the Italian play what goes around, come around.
[53:14.200 --> 53:16.200]  I'm definitely afraid of that.
[53:16.200 --> 53:21.200]  And if that's what keeps me...
[53:21.200 --> 53:29.200]  Well, this sounds like a situation where he went to a lot of trouble to bring this retribution on himself.
[53:29.200 --> 53:31.200]  Yeah.
[53:31.200 --> 53:33.200]  Really?
[53:33.200 --> 53:34.200]  Okay.
[53:34.200 --> 53:42.200]  All this whole story may not be true, but it is a different way of looking at things.
[53:42.200 --> 53:55.200]  Sometimes a different way of looking at things tends to generate answers that the easy determinations don't.
[53:55.200 --> 54:02.200]  Well, when he became elected, he asked the legislature to rule on what he was doing if it was an ethics violation.
[54:02.200 --> 54:05.200]  They told him it was and he went and did it anyway.
[54:05.200 --> 54:08.200]  And then when he got caught, he lied about it.
[54:08.200 --> 54:12.200]  So he took what he was doing and waved it in front of them.
[54:12.200 --> 54:14.200]  Yeah.
[54:14.200 --> 54:17.200]  And said, hey, look at me. You look at what I'm doing.
[54:17.200 --> 54:21.200]  What same rational person does that?
[54:21.200 --> 54:23.200]  Yeah.
[54:23.200 --> 54:25.200]  Something else is going on here.
[54:25.200 --> 54:27.200]  There's a different dynamic.
[54:27.200 --> 54:29.200]  We have something called a Suffolk County farm here.
[54:29.200 --> 54:35.200]  He's going to be milking cows on the sheriff's farm over in New York.
[54:35.200 --> 54:45.200]  It may be. However, like Jimmy Swaggered, he got that monkey off his back.
[54:45.200 --> 54:51.200]  He finally told the truth about himself or what he believed to be the truth.
[54:51.200 --> 54:56.200]  The problem with Jimmy Swaggered is he never was rotten bile and no good.
[54:56.200 --> 55:01.200]  But he was led to believe that.
[55:01.200 --> 55:14.200]  While he lost his position and respect, at least he was able to come to groups with himself.
[55:14.200 --> 55:22.200]  If we think about people different and the Bible is filled with incredible insight.
[55:22.200 --> 55:28.200]  Judge, not that you be not judge.
[55:28.200 --> 55:33.200]  The Bible did not stutter.
[55:33.200 --> 55:40.200]  Maybe Jesus and God can pass this kind of judgment.
[55:40.200 --> 55:44.200]  They may be able to think in terms of good and evil.
[55:44.200 --> 55:46.200]  But you've been warned about that.
[55:46.200 --> 55:49.200]  If you're a Christian, you have been warned.
[55:49.200 --> 55:52.200]  You don't you dare.
[55:52.200 --> 56:00.200]  And if you can't think of someone in terms of good and evil, what do you got left?
[56:00.200 --> 56:04.200]  You have to find something else to make sense of things.
[56:04.200 --> 56:12.200]  And I don't know if this is right, but it's a different way.
[56:12.200 --> 56:20.200]  And it doesn't allow you to wash your hands of a difficult issue.
[56:20.200 --> 56:33.200]  If I can brand someone as evil, then I can rail at them in righteous indignation and take no responsibility for finding method of change.
[56:33.200 --> 56:39.200]  If I can't brand them as evil, then I have to say, well, something's wrong.
[56:39.200 --> 56:48.200]  And if I say something's wrong, then that begs the question, what is wrong and how do we fix it?
[56:48.200 --> 56:51.200]  And that's all the preaching I'm going to do today.
[56:51.200 --> 56:54.200]  That is the Gospel according to Randy.
[56:54.200 --> 57:07.200]  And my favorite quote, and I use it over and over again, was from the prison warden in Coolhand, Luke 3.
[57:07.200 --> 57:18.200]  What we got here is failure to communicate with people you just can't reach.
[57:18.200 --> 57:21.200]  What is wrong with you?
[57:21.200 --> 57:23.200]  Yes, I remember that.
[57:23.200 --> 57:26.200]  What we have here is a failure.
[57:26.200 --> 57:27.200]  What?
[57:27.200 --> 57:28.200]  Communicate.
[57:28.200 --> 57:29.200]  Buchanan.
[57:29.200 --> 57:31.200]  You remember the guy's name Buchanan?
[57:31.200 --> 57:34.200]  Struthamarton.
[57:34.200 --> 57:37.200]  That was the actor's name, the blonde haired actor.
[57:37.200 --> 57:38.200]  Yeah.
[57:38.200 --> 57:41.200]  And he was talking to Paul Newman.
[57:41.200 --> 57:42.200]  Yeah.
[57:42.200 --> 57:44.200]  What do we got here?
[57:44.200 --> 57:49.200]  I always liked that guy.
[57:49.200 --> 57:50.200]  Okay.
[57:50.200 --> 57:51.200]  Okay.
[57:51.200 --> 57:52.200]  Good night.
[57:52.200 --> 57:53.200]  Okay.
[57:53.200 --> 57:54.200]  Thank you, Ken.
[57:54.200 --> 57:55.200]  Good night.
[57:55.200 --> 57:56.200]  Okay.
[57:56.200 --> 58:00.200]  Now we're going to wait for my screen to refresh.
[58:00.200 --> 58:04.200]  We're going to Shane in New York.
[58:04.200 --> 58:09.200]  What do you have for us in 45 seconds?
[58:09.200 --> 58:10.200]  Okay.
[58:10.200 --> 58:11.200]  Time's up.
[58:11.200 --> 58:12.200]  Hang on.
[58:12.200 --> 58:16.200]  We will pick this up on the other side.
[58:16.200 --> 58:21.200]  I'm patting myself on the back because I didn't jump off the cliff again.
[58:21.200 --> 58:26.200]  This is Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain with our radio.
[58:26.200 --> 58:32.200]  We've got another hour and one caller so if you have a question or comment, give us a
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[58:33.200 --> 58:37.200]  We'll have time to pitch you in because if we get some more callers, we'll dump Shane
[58:37.200 --> 58:38.200]  like a hotlock.
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[01:00:06.200 --> 01:00:13.200]  Markets for Monday the 22nd of July 2019 open with precious metals, gold at $1,429 an ounce,
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[01:00:46.200 --> 01:00:52.200]  In history, the year 1916, the preparedness day bombing, a time suitcase bomb was detonated
[01:00:52.200 --> 01:00:57.200]  on Market Street in San Francisco during the World War I preparedness day parade,
[01:00:57.200 --> 01:01:04.200]  killing 10 and entering 40 today in history.
[01:01:04.200 --> 01:01:09.200]  In recent news, since Governor Greg Abbott signed House Bill 1325 legalizing heaven
[01:01:09.200 --> 01:01:13.200]  to Texas law back in June, county prosecutors around the state including Houston,
[01:01:13.200 --> 01:01:17.200]  Austin, and San Antonio have been dropping marijuana possession charges and even refusing
[01:01:17.200 --> 01:01:22.200]  to file new ones since they are stipulating that they do not have the time or the laboratory
[01:01:22.200 --> 01:01:27.200]  equipment to test the herb for THC. Margaret Moore, the Travis County District Attorney
[01:01:27.200 --> 01:01:31.200]  announced earlier this month that she was dismissing 32 felony possession and delivery
[01:01:31.200 --> 01:01:33.200]  of marijuana cases because of the law.
[01:01:33.200 --> 01:01:37.200]  Mr. Abbott and other state officials including the Attorney General stipulated in a letter
[01:01:37.200 --> 01:01:42.200]  that county district attorneys back on Thursday that marijuana has not been decriminalized
[01:01:42.200 --> 01:01:48.200]  in Texas and that these actions demonstrate a misunderstanding of how HB 1325 works,
[01:01:48.200 --> 01:01:53.200]  as well as other cities too like the District Attorney in El Paso, Kyma Esparza,
[01:01:53.200 --> 01:01:58.200]  a Democrat who also stated earlier this month that the law, quote, will not have an effect
[01:01:58.200 --> 01:02:01.200]  on the prosecution of marijuana cases in El Paso.
[01:02:01.200 --> 01:02:06.200]  However, the issue was succinctly summarized by Mr. Brandon Ball, an assistant public defender
[01:02:06.200 --> 01:02:10.200]  in Harris County who stated that, quote, the law is constantly changing on what makes
[01:02:10.200 --> 01:02:13.200]  something illegal based on its chemical makeup.
[01:02:13.200 --> 01:02:17.200]  It's important that if someone is charged with something, the test matches with their
[01:02:17.200 --> 01:02:19.200]  charged with.
[01:02:22.200 --> 01:02:27.200]  A paper by Tulane University identified a 5-and-a-half inch American pocket shark
[01:02:27.200 --> 01:02:32.200]  as the first of its kind in the Gulf of Mexico, the specimen being only the second
[01:02:32.200 --> 01:02:37.200]  pocket shark ever captured or recorded with the other one being found way back in 1979
[01:02:37.200 --> 01:02:39.200]  in the East Pacific Ocean.
[01:02:39.200 --> 01:02:44.200]  According to the university paper, the shark secretes a lumus fluid from a gland near its
[01:02:44.200 --> 01:02:51.200]  front fins for the purposes hypothesized to lure and prey who may be drawn into the glow.
[01:03:14.200 --> 01:03:34.200]  Okay, we are back.
[01:03:34.200 --> 01:03:40.200]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rue's Law Radio, and we're talking to Shane in New York.
[01:03:40.200 --> 01:03:46.200]  Over the break, we talked about you and we laughed and we laughed.
[01:03:46.200 --> 01:03:49.200]  Well, you're going to laugh even harder this time around.
[01:03:49.200 --> 01:03:56.200]  Okay, and I have Leslie on and you're going to want to talk to her.
[01:03:56.200 --> 01:04:01.200]  Okay, you filed bankruptcy.
[01:04:01.200 --> 01:04:05.200]  How is that working in your mom's foreclosure?
[01:04:05.200 --> 01:04:09.200]  Well, the good news is it stopped to sell the property on Wednesday.
[01:04:09.200 --> 01:04:16.200]  They already had a buyer and once the county judge found out about it, we went to court
[01:04:16.200 --> 01:04:20.200]  on Monday and they immediately told us to get the hell out of here.
[01:04:20.200 --> 01:04:29.200]  This is done on submission and a real strong black male which found out later it was a female.
[01:04:29.200 --> 01:04:35.200]  It looked like a male, but she was very, you know, almost wanted to tell us to get the
[01:04:35.200 --> 01:04:39.200]  hell out, but she said get your stuff and get out of here.
[01:04:39.200 --> 01:04:40.200]  Not on a docket sheet.
[01:04:40.200 --> 01:04:41.200]  This is done on submission.
[01:04:41.200 --> 01:04:42.200]  Get out of here.
[01:04:42.200 --> 01:04:46.200]  And the judge stopped her proceedings on the criminal case as we walked in because we're
[01:04:46.200 --> 01:04:47.200]  on submission.
[01:04:47.200 --> 01:04:48.200]  We want to be heard.
[01:04:48.200 --> 01:04:49.200]  We want to put stuff on the record.
[01:04:49.200 --> 01:04:56.200]  So we left and on Wednesday, I went down there to make sure they didn't sell the property
[01:04:56.200 --> 01:05:03.200]  and filed some other forms in bankruptcy court regarding my bankruptcy for Chapter 13.
[01:05:03.200 --> 01:05:09.200]  Also, you know, Randy, on Friday, I did attach the quick claim to it, the voluntary petition
[01:05:09.200 --> 01:05:15.200]  and got schedules A done and then immediately filed a motion for extension of time for 45
[01:05:15.200 --> 01:05:20.200]  days so I can pull my credit reports and find out and find out if there's any other liabilities
[01:05:20.200 --> 01:05:22.200]  out there and put it in the plan.
[01:05:22.200 --> 01:05:26.200]  So this gets even more interesting.
[01:05:26.200 --> 01:05:32.200]  So now here we are, July 24, Wednesday, I go down to the courthouse to make sure they
[01:05:32.200 --> 01:05:37.200]  don't sell the property and the whole court building is completely surrounded with sheriffs.
[01:05:37.200 --> 01:05:44.200]  Well, there was a bomb squad at the Erie County clerk's office on that day and it was shut
[01:05:44.200 --> 01:05:50.200]  down for the whole day and I was waiting around, waiting around and obviously they did never
[01:05:50.200 --> 01:05:51.200]  sold it.
[01:05:51.200 --> 01:05:53.200]  It was taken off the list, but I had no bother to later.
[01:05:53.200 --> 01:05:55.200]  It was taken off the list.
[01:05:55.200 --> 01:06:01.200]  And I walked outside and ran right into the county judge and she thought it was somebody
[01:06:01.200 --> 01:06:04.200]  else that introduced myself and she got really mad.
[01:06:04.200 --> 01:06:09.200]  She goes, oh, you filed bankruptcy and she just shook her head and just walked away from
[01:06:09.200 --> 01:06:10.200]  it.
[01:06:10.200 --> 01:06:11.200]  She was pissed.
[01:06:11.200 --> 01:06:17.200]  And I said, well, we tried to see you on Monday and she just kept on walking.
[01:06:17.200 --> 01:06:22.200]  I said, you wouldn't let's talk to us on Monday and we had two motions on there.
[01:06:22.200 --> 01:06:27.200]  And one was that there was no hearing for the referee fraudulent debt that they made up
[01:06:27.200 --> 01:06:31.200]  and the other motion was the dismiss because they never even filed a motion for summary
[01:06:31.200 --> 01:06:32.200]  judgment.
[01:06:32.200 --> 01:06:33.200]  So there's two major issues.
[01:06:33.200 --> 01:06:35.200]  I'm just giving you a clip notes.
[01:06:35.200 --> 01:06:36.200]  Okay.
[01:06:36.200 --> 01:06:39.200]  What judge is this?
[01:06:39.200 --> 01:06:41.200]  County district?
[01:06:41.200 --> 01:06:42.200]  County.
[01:06:42.200 --> 01:06:43.200]  The lowest court.
[01:06:43.200 --> 01:06:44.200]  It was shipped.
[01:06:44.200 --> 01:06:49.200]  The state lifted my mom's bankruptcy case and they were going to sell the property on July
[01:06:49.200 --> 01:06:50.200]  24.
[01:06:50.200 --> 01:06:52.200]  Why did the judge care?
[01:06:52.200 --> 01:06:54.200]  Yeah, that's what I was just wondering.
[01:06:54.200 --> 01:07:00.200]  I mean, maybe I'm missing something here, but why would the judge be upset about that?
[01:07:00.200 --> 01:07:05.200]  It's supposed to be totally fair and impartial, not have a dog in the hood.
[01:07:05.200 --> 01:07:11.200]  You know, and one of the chances of me running into her on that day, just like, you know,
[01:07:11.200 --> 01:07:12.200]  that's like getting hit by light.
[01:07:12.200 --> 01:07:13.200]  What was the chance?
[01:07:13.200 --> 01:07:14.200]  Wait a minute.
[01:07:14.200 --> 01:07:15.200]  Wait a minute.
[01:07:15.200 --> 01:07:16.200]  Wait a minute.
[01:07:16.200 --> 01:07:17.200]  Have you filed?
[01:07:17.200 --> 01:07:23.200]  Do you have a copy of my financial disclosure request for the judge?
[01:07:23.200 --> 01:07:24.200]  Yes.
[01:07:24.200 --> 01:07:25.200]  Yes.
[01:07:25.200 --> 01:07:27.200]  But I have not filed it into the case yet.
[01:07:27.200 --> 01:07:29.200]  Now is a good time to file it.
[01:07:29.200 --> 01:07:30.200]  Yes.
[01:07:30.200 --> 01:07:33.200]  But can I still file it even though we're in bankruptcy because everything's come to a
[01:07:33.200 --> 01:07:34.200]  complete halt?
[01:07:34.200 --> 01:07:35.200]  Oh yeah.
[01:07:35.200 --> 01:07:39.200]  This has nothing to do with the disposition of the case.
[01:07:39.200 --> 01:07:42.200]  Yes, absolutely file it.
[01:07:42.200 --> 01:07:45.200]  So she was going to make a ruling on Friday.
[01:07:45.200 --> 01:07:52.200]  I'm sorry, not Friday, but this Monday and she never did because she found out about
[01:07:52.200 --> 01:07:53.200]  bankruptcy that afternoon.
[01:07:53.200 --> 01:07:58.200]  Somehow she got noticed from the bankruptcy court and I ran into her Wednesday.
[01:07:58.200 --> 01:08:02.200]  And I was real nice to her, shook hands with her and then she thought it was somebody else.
[01:08:02.200 --> 01:08:05.200]  And then as soon as she found out who it was, she goes, oh, you found bankruptcy.
[01:08:05.200 --> 01:08:07.200]  She shook her head and walked away from me.
[01:08:07.200 --> 01:08:08.200]  Like yeah, right.
[01:08:08.200 --> 01:08:10.200]  Like you're going to rule in our favor anyways, right?
[01:08:10.200 --> 01:08:11.200]  Give me a minute.
[01:08:11.200 --> 01:08:13.200]  Why did she have that?
[01:08:13.200 --> 01:08:15.200]  That raises the question.
[01:08:15.200 --> 01:08:20.200]  So now file the request for judicial disclosure.
[01:08:20.200 --> 01:08:21.200]  She's going to ignore it.
[01:08:21.200 --> 01:08:24.200]  She's going to refuse to answer it.
[01:08:24.200 --> 01:08:28.200]  But that lets her know that you're looking behind the curtain.
[01:08:28.200 --> 01:08:39.200]  Then go to the county assessor collector and the registrar of deeds and look her name up.
[01:08:39.200 --> 01:08:40.200]  Right.
[01:08:40.200 --> 01:08:42.200]  See if she has any properties.
[01:08:42.200 --> 01:08:49.200]  And then once you see the properties, see if there have been any mortgages against the
[01:08:49.200 --> 01:08:53.200]  property that were paid off relatively quickly.
[01:08:53.200 --> 01:09:00.200]  That is the primary way judges use to launder their.
[01:09:00.200 --> 01:09:04.200]  You'll gotten gains.
[01:09:04.200 --> 01:09:05.200]  That's amazing, Randy.
[01:09:05.200 --> 01:09:09.200]  I think I'm going to do that on month this Monday coming up.
[01:09:09.200 --> 01:09:10.200]  Yeah.
[01:09:10.200 --> 01:09:15.200]  And whether you find anything or not odds are the judge is going to find out you're looking.
[01:09:15.200 --> 01:09:17.200]  Now look at look at the judge.
[01:09:17.200 --> 01:09:20.200]  Where is she from?
[01:09:20.200 --> 01:09:24.200]  Is her family from this county?
[01:09:24.200 --> 01:09:29.200]  If they're not, look where she's originally from because if she bought property,
[01:09:29.200 --> 01:09:32.200]  that's where she's most likely by it.
[01:09:32.200 --> 01:09:39.200]  So do a property check in Erie County and find out what she owes.
[01:09:39.200 --> 01:09:48.200]  And look at see if you can look up a buy owner, find out where she was born, where she went to school, check those counties.
[01:09:48.200 --> 01:09:53.200]  And then do the judicial petition for disclosure of financial assets.
[01:09:53.200 --> 01:09:54.200]  Correct.
[01:09:54.200 --> 01:09:58.200]  Yes, file that and then go do your own digging.
[01:09:58.200 --> 01:10:07.200]  Would it also be a good that would be the right time to go check in and see about her bond?
[01:10:07.200 --> 01:10:12.200]  Yes.
[01:10:12.200 --> 01:10:13.200]  You there, Shane?
[01:10:13.200 --> 01:10:14.200]  How would we pull?
[01:10:14.200 --> 01:10:16.200]  Yeah, how would we pull the bond?
[01:10:16.200 --> 01:10:30.200]  The county comptroller generally or the tax assessor collector generally the comptroller would be the one that would handle the bonds for the different public employees.
[01:10:30.200 --> 01:10:36.200]  Do you have a commissioners court in New York?
[01:10:36.200 --> 01:10:37.200]  Find out, Randy.
[01:10:37.200 --> 01:10:42.200]  Find out who handles the money for the county.
[01:10:42.200 --> 01:10:45.200]  Who does the budgets and stuff.
[01:10:45.200 --> 01:10:49.200]  Like in Texas, we have a county commissioners court.
[01:10:49.200 --> 01:10:54.200]  And Tennessee, we have a county mayor.
[01:10:54.200 --> 01:10:58.200]  And some some you'll have a comptroller.
[01:10:58.200 --> 01:11:09.200]  See who handles the money, who handles the bonding for public officials.
[01:11:09.200 --> 01:11:10.200]  And check into the judge's bond.
[01:11:10.200 --> 01:11:15.200]  When you do that, the judge is going to find out about it.
[01:11:15.200 --> 01:11:18.200]  That's going to tell you, you're looking behind the curtain.
[01:11:18.200 --> 01:11:19.200]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:11:19.200 --> 01:11:27.200]  I will say one thing is my dad was in front of her 10 years ago with what yours is 2019.
[01:11:27.200 --> 01:11:31.200]  Oh my God, where's the time to go over any 14 years ago.
[01:11:31.200 --> 01:11:38.200]  And that was that Liberty dollar case that almost all 10 of us got arrested for having those Liberty coins in our pocket.
[01:11:38.200 --> 01:11:41.200]  Talking about not in the house.
[01:11:41.200 --> 01:11:42.200]  Yeah, Vana.
[01:11:42.200 --> 01:11:44.200]  Yes, the same.
[01:11:44.200 --> 01:11:47.200]  The, you know, the repeal the Federal Reserve and all that stuff.
[01:11:47.200 --> 01:11:49.200]  That happened back in December 2005.
[01:11:49.200 --> 01:11:57.200]  And they threw my dad in the can back in 2006 and she was the county judge on the rid of Hapius corpus to get him released.
[01:11:57.200 --> 01:12:00.200]  And just basically made fun of him and said, oh, you don't know what you're talking about.
[01:12:00.200 --> 01:12:02.200]  I'm not going to grant you Hapius corpus.
[01:12:02.200 --> 01:12:04.200]  And then he had to do some other petition.
[01:12:04.200 --> 01:12:05.200]  He finally got off.
[01:12:05.200 --> 01:12:09.200]  He set in jail for 10 days for just having silver in his pocket.
[01:12:09.200 --> 01:12:14.200]  I always liked that one.
[01:12:14.200 --> 01:12:19.200]  So maybe you can return the favor to this judge.
[01:12:19.200 --> 01:12:22.200]  Yeah.
[01:12:22.200 --> 01:12:27.200]  Just doing the research, you know, that'll get back to her.
[01:12:27.200 --> 01:12:37.200]  And then if a word comes back to you about it, then you get to go after the judge and move to have her recused.
[01:12:37.200 --> 01:12:47.200]  Yeah, she, she, she was already trying to talk to me about the case and then she just like stopped and just kept on walking.
[01:12:47.200 --> 01:12:51.200]  And the boy, I never seen a judge so mad before.
[01:12:51.200 --> 01:12:54.200]  That's probably means she has a dog in the hunt.
[01:12:54.200 --> 01:13:01.200]  And now it's appropriate for you to try to figure out what that dog is.
[01:13:01.200 --> 01:13:10.200]  Okay, so you're did the bank, they did pull your property from the sale list.
[01:13:10.200 --> 01:13:14.200]  Yes, yes, exactly the way you said in the last radio show.
[01:13:14.200 --> 01:13:16.200]  Okay, yeah.
[01:13:16.200 --> 01:13:18.200]  Leslie.
[01:13:18.200 --> 01:13:21.200]  Yeah, right here.
[01:13:21.200 --> 01:13:23.200]  Can you address that part?
[01:13:23.200 --> 01:13:26.200]  How long were you in foreclosure?
[01:13:26.200 --> 01:13:36.200]  And where the bank had given a notice of intent to foreclose or to do a sale, but never get.
[01:13:36.200 --> 01:13:48.200]  Well, they started in 2010 with giving me a notice of sale of notice of intent to foreclose in March of 2010.
[01:13:48.200 --> 01:14:02.200]  And it was February, no, January, the, the last week of January, 2015, two weeks after the Jesenowski case came out that they filed for foreclosure.
[01:14:02.200 --> 01:14:06.200]  They were still in the court of appeal.
[01:14:06.200 --> 01:14:14.200]  And there was a sheriff's bill, but they can't go any further because still in the court of appeals and it can be thrown out.
[01:14:14.200 --> 01:14:20.200]  And I'll get my house back.
[01:14:20.200 --> 01:14:28.200]  That's why they generally don't sell the property as long as there is litigation in place.
[01:14:28.200 --> 01:14:41.200]  Yeah, because if they lose at the end of the day, then sometimes if they've sold a party, sold the house to a third party who's essentially an innocent party, you generally can't get your house back.
[01:14:41.200 --> 01:14:47.200]  But you can get damages.
[01:14:47.200 --> 01:14:53.200]  Yeah, major damages if they've done all these properties.
[01:14:53.200 --> 01:14:57.200]  In my case, they sold the house to Fannie Mae.
[01:14:57.200 --> 01:15:00.200]  Oh, that's, that's just like not selling it.
[01:15:00.200 --> 01:15:06.200]  So as long as there's not a third party involved, Fannie Mae is not a third party.
[01:15:06.200 --> 01:15:10.200]  So that's like the bank buying it back itself.
[01:15:10.200 --> 01:15:26.200]  So I'm not sure that that's even a bad thing because now there's no question of a third party entering the mix because the third party is essentially an innocent party.
[01:15:26.200 --> 01:15:31.200]  And that can restrict your ability to recover your property at the end of the day.
[01:15:31.200 --> 01:15:40.200]  So if Fannie Mae bought it, then nothing's going to happen to the property as long as you're in court with them.
[01:15:40.200 --> 01:15:47.200]  And if you're still in the appellate court, you've still got another year or so at least, depending on what the appellate court does.
[01:15:47.200 --> 01:15:55.200]  We haven't even, we've not even due to file our appellate brief until September.
[01:15:55.200 --> 01:16:03.200]  Yes, because it's a different, it's a different appeal. It's all on the subject of jurisdiction.
[01:16:03.200 --> 01:16:08.200]  And so if there's no jurisdiction, they had no right to sell it to begin with and I'll get it back.
[01:16:08.200 --> 01:16:17.200]  And that's on top of the arbitration award and all the damages I collected there.
[01:16:17.200 --> 01:16:23.200]  Wait, are the, is the arbitration based on this property?
[01:16:23.200 --> 01:16:24.200]  Yes.
[01:16:24.200 --> 01:16:31.200]  Oh, so that would be interesting. These are the arbitration award.
[01:16:31.200 --> 01:16:46.200]  Would that be construed as, now what's the word? You're, you're being, you're covering harm.
[01:16:46.200 --> 01:16:48.200]  What, what is that?
[01:16:48.200 --> 01:16:51.200]  We're going to take a break here.
[01:16:51.200 --> 01:17:00.200]  Then we'll almost fell off the cliff. Hang on. We'll be right back.
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[01:19:24.200 --> 01:19:26.200]  Randy Hilton, Real World Radio.
[01:19:26.200 --> 01:19:33.200]  And we're talking to Shane in New York and we've got Ms. Leslie on the line.
[01:19:33.200 --> 01:19:42.200]  And I brought Leslie in because Shane, you're just at the point of foreclosure.
[01:19:42.200 --> 01:19:51.200]  I had gotten people who were at that point, two of them was Pastor Massad, one of them in New York.
[01:19:51.200 --> 01:20:01.200]  And I got him at the point of foreclosure, we stopped the foreclosure, and he finally lost the property seven years later.
[01:20:01.200 --> 01:20:05.200]  And he only lost it because he didn't do what we told him to.
[01:20:05.200 --> 01:20:20.200]  Take half the mortgage and put it in a bank so that when you get to that point, then you've got a handful of money that you can go to them and broker a deal.
[01:20:20.200 --> 01:20:27.200]  So you're not even close to losing the property.
[01:20:27.200 --> 01:20:34.200]  What's even really interesting is the first lean holder has not even filed a motion to stay in a bankruptcy cooler.
[01:20:34.200 --> 01:20:39.200]  So they're using the second lean holder, which the judgements only for $59,000.
[01:20:39.200 --> 01:20:58.200]  And we want the court back at the county level on Monday to be heard because the judge never even had a hearing for us to sit and have a hearing with the referee to establish what they believe we owe, or my mom owes, I should say, not me.
[01:20:58.200 --> 01:21:04.200]  And they just skipped it and granted an order and a reference to the referee with no due process hearing, no nothing.
[01:21:04.200 --> 01:21:12.200]  We didn't even know the referee report was done, Randy. It was done last year, back in April 2018. They just did it.
[01:21:12.200 --> 01:21:16.200]  No notice, no nothing.
[01:21:16.200 --> 01:21:21.200]  So have you moved to have that ruling stricken?
[01:21:21.200 --> 01:21:25.200]  Yes, that's what the motions were on Monday to be heard.
[01:21:25.200 --> 01:21:35.200]  And as soon as we found out we were kicked out of the courthouse, or I'm sorry, as soon as we found out that was going to be done on submissions, I said, screw this, I'm going to bankruptcy court.
[01:21:35.200 --> 01:21:39.200]  They're not going to ruin our favor at all. They don't want us to make a record.
[01:21:39.200 --> 01:21:48.200]  The writing was on the wall, Randy. The writing was on the wall. So I went down there Friday and filed the skeleton bones of Chapter 13.
[01:21:48.200 --> 01:21:58.200]  Got that all filed, got the filing fee paid, and got at least Schedule A done, but I still have the other schedules to get done, but I have to pull up my credit reports, which I just sent out today.
[01:21:58.200 --> 01:22:11.200]  And so anyways, at least we stopped the sale. And I got my work cut out because the meeting is already set for September 3rd, the 341 meeting, and I already got the credit counseling class done already.
[01:22:11.200 --> 01:22:18.200]  And that's really important to get that done. It's supposed to get that done immediately. The pre and then the post is done after the 341 meeting.
[01:22:18.200 --> 01:22:21.200]  They give you 60 days, but I don't think it's done anyway.
[01:22:21.200 --> 01:22:29.200]  You know you can file an adversarial pleading in the bankruptcy.
[01:22:29.200 --> 01:22:36.200]  I absolutely know that. I didn't want to talk about that because it's kind of premature because I still have five weeks to get to that point.
[01:22:36.200 --> 01:22:47.200]  But yeah, that's already in my... I'm already in the process of doing that, but I got to get the preliminary stuff in.
[01:22:47.200 --> 01:22:58.200]  And the thing I was going to ask you really quick, since I got a couple more minutes with you, is I don't make a lot of income on the books for Chapter 13.
[01:22:58.200 --> 01:23:03.200]  Is that going to play a huge role?
[01:23:03.200 --> 01:23:11.200]  Well, okay, I have a question. Why 13 instead of 7?
[01:23:11.200 --> 01:23:18.200]  I don't have an answer for you because it was easy to do, I knew how to do it, and I don't really...
[01:23:18.200 --> 01:23:21.200]  Okay, you can change to a 7.
[01:23:21.200 --> 01:23:38.200]  A 13, you agree to pay every... you set up payment plans and stuff. What kind of debt do you have? Do you have secured debt and do you have unsecured debt?
[01:23:38.200 --> 01:23:41.200]  Very little debt at all, right?
[01:23:41.200 --> 01:23:53.200]  Oh. Then a 13 may be better than a 7.
[01:23:53.200 --> 01:24:07.200]  Actually, if you want my opinion, if you had an arbitration award, he could throw that in and change it to a Chapter 7 and make them pay on the arbitration.
[01:24:07.200 --> 01:24:18.200]  That's why I wanted to bring you in. This may be a good place to run the arbitration routine on them.
[01:24:18.200 --> 01:24:26.200]  Have you been listening, Shane, to what Lizzie was talking about with the arbitration?
[01:24:26.200 --> 01:24:31.200]  Yeah, I have. I just know that you need to be thrown here and then stay in New York.
[01:24:31.200 --> 01:24:34.200]  Can we be done anywhere in our country?
[01:24:34.200 --> 01:24:37.200]  Okay, that's huge.
[01:24:37.200 --> 01:24:42.200]  U.S. Code 9, you are in contractual privity with these people.
[01:24:42.200 --> 01:24:44.200]  Yeah.
[01:24:44.200 --> 01:24:57.200]  So you can run the routine. So you need to talk to Leslie, send me an email asking for an introduction. I will forward the email to Leslie.
[01:24:57.200 --> 01:25:10.200]  Yeah, because what they can do is it only takes about four weeks to get an arbitratable contract with all of the defaults.
[01:25:10.200 --> 01:25:16.200]  It takes less than four weeks. It takes two more weeks to get an arbitration award.
[01:25:16.200 --> 01:25:27.200]  And the day you get the award, you can file it into the bankruptcy and change your bankruptcy at that time into a Chapter 7.
[01:25:27.200 --> 01:25:37.200]  And what that will do is force them the referee or the trustee.
[01:25:37.200 --> 01:25:44.200]  It'll force the trustee to collect that award.
[01:25:44.200 --> 01:25:46.200]  It's that simple.
[01:25:46.200 --> 01:25:48.200]  I even heard of it before.
[01:25:48.200 --> 01:25:57.200]  Well, it's an asset. And the award is an asset. That's what they're all about, liquidating assets. They will leave.
[01:25:57.200 --> 01:26:02.200]  Oh, that is good.
[01:26:02.200 --> 01:26:07.200]  If you get the federal court to collect your money for you.
[01:26:07.200 --> 01:26:09.200]  Yeah.
[01:26:09.200 --> 01:26:18.200]  Then you don't have to pay the U.S. Marshal or anybody else because it's all in the bankruptcy court.
[01:26:18.200 --> 01:26:30.200]  Because the U.S. Marshal charges $50,000 on the award I would have just to collect it.
[01:26:30.200 --> 01:26:36.200]  I would love to know more about that. I guess I'll Randy, I'll give you an email sometime tonight or tomorrow.
[01:26:36.200 --> 01:26:49.200]  One thing I wanted to tell you really quick is as soon as I emailed the secretary for the judge, Latilio, the Italian lady, small little lady,
[01:26:49.200 --> 01:26:59.200]  and I see through the attorney in Rochester, David P. K., smart boyals, and there's another one, young kids.
[01:26:59.200 --> 01:27:07.200]  Within 15 minutes after our email, E-mailer Pacers popped up and they filed a notice of appearance and demanded all service.
[01:27:07.200 --> 01:27:15.200]  And it's Chapter 13, they're done to be served all papers. And they already have me listed as a debtor and secured to them.
[01:27:15.200 --> 01:27:24.200]  I don't have no contract with this bank. I have nothing to do with any of this stuff and they're already trying to attach a less debt.
[01:27:24.200 --> 01:27:34.200]  Good thing. That's a good thing because that gives you the opportunity to give them an arbitration agreement to force them.
[01:27:34.200 --> 01:27:43.200]  I would love to. If I can ask you really quick, what's required for me to get involved in all that?
[01:27:43.200 --> 01:27:53.200]  All I need is basically your name, your address, the name of the creditor, and stuff like that.
[01:27:53.200 --> 01:27:57.200]  I can send you a questionnaire as soon as I get your email address.
[01:27:57.200 --> 01:28:00.200]  Okay, wonderful. Should I give it to Randy?
[01:28:00.200 --> 01:28:06.200]  Yeah, give it to Randy and he'll email it to me.
[01:28:06.200 --> 01:28:12.200]  Okay, great. Randy, thanks a lot for putting me on the air again tonight and just want to let you know that,
[01:28:12.200 --> 01:28:22.200]  from my understanding, a lot of people are really mad because the property was selling for around $59,000 and it's worth close to $300,000.
[01:28:22.200 --> 01:28:24.200]  Oh, wow.
[01:28:24.200 --> 01:28:30.200]  They were selling it for $59,000 and the first lean holder is a complete mess.
[01:28:30.200 --> 01:28:42.200]  That law firm got indicted by the federal government, a civil indicted, and they paid a big fine back in December of $6.8 million for using Franny and Freddie's name,
[01:28:42.200 --> 01:28:44.200]  exactly what they did to us.
[01:28:44.200 --> 01:28:57.200]  And originally, the first lean holder was HSBC, but they bailed out that we have no interest in this property at all, so they changed the judgment from HSBC to the Federal National Mortgage Association 30 days later.
[01:28:57.200 --> 01:29:00.200]  And then two weeks after they did that, get this.
[01:29:00.200 --> 01:29:09.200]  That's when the government announced the big bolt and that Rosicki and Rosicki has been civilly indicted, not a criminal indictment, it's a civil indictment.
[01:29:09.200 --> 01:29:17.200]  And eight months after that, they had to pay, I think, maybe $6.9 million to law firm out in New York City.
[01:29:17.200 --> 01:29:24.200]  And they had our case for almost four years, but they couldn't budge on it because we were right on top of all the filings.
[01:29:24.200 --> 01:29:29.200]  And that's another long story, but the first lean holder will not file a motion with the state bankruptcy court.
[01:29:29.200 --> 01:29:35.200]  So they used the second, the junior lean holder, the key bank to try to sell the property on Wednesday.
[01:29:35.200 --> 01:29:37.200]  And then I came in and stopped that.
[01:29:37.200 --> 01:29:39.200]  So this is the third time.
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[01:33:35.200 --> 01:33:41.200]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio, and we're talking to...
[01:33:41.200 --> 01:33:43.200]  We finished up with Shane.
[01:33:43.200 --> 01:33:44.200]  Wait a minute.
[01:33:44.200 --> 01:33:46.200]  Shane, you're still there.
[01:33:46.200 --> 01:33:52.200]  Leslie, will you talk to Shane about what you talked to me about on the break?
[01:33:52.200 --> 01:33:57.200]  Okay, you're saying that the junior lienholder wants to foreclose
[01:33:57.200 --> 01:34:01.200]  and they're selling it for $69,000.
[01:34:01.200 --> 01:34:07.200]  What that means is they can sell it at an auction for that much money,
[01:34:07.200 --> 01:34:16.200]  but whoever buys it is subject to the first lien because that is not removed.
[01:34:16.200 --> 01:34:26.200]  So if you have a $250,000 mortgage on that property and it sells for $59,000 by the second lienholder,
[01:34:26.200 --> 01:34:36.200]  they're selling it subject to the other people paying as settlement the $259,000 first lien.
[01:34:36.200 --> 01:34:37.200]  Do you follow me?
[01:34:37.200 --> 01:34:43.200]  Shane, how large is the claim against the property?
[01:34:43.200 --> 01:34:50.200]  Well, it's super inflated, completely fraudulent, but the alleged is $144,000 first lienholder,
[01:34:50.200 --> 01:34:55.200]  $60,000 for the second lienholder, the first lienholder, but even higher now,
[01:34:55.200 --> 01:34:57.200]  but that is such a mess, Randy.
[01:34:57.200 --> 01:35:00.200]  I don't want to spend too much time presenting that other colors,
[01:35:00.200 --> 01:35:05.200]  but one thing I will say about the first lienholder, the referee did the report last year
[01:35:05.200 --> 01:35:10.200]  and said that my mom owes $144,000.
[01:35:10.200 --> 01:35:18.200]  Remember, we recorded that conversation with the Federal National Mortgage Association out in Washington, D.C.,
[01:35:18.200 --> 01:35:23.200]  and you can even go online and look up the Federal National Mortgage Association,
[01:35:23.200 --> 01:35:26.200]  put the property address in, social security number and all that,
[01:35:26.200 --> 01:35:30.200]  and said there are no liens or loans with the Federal National Mortgage Association.
[01:35:30.200 --> 01:35:32.200]  Zilch, none.
[01:35:32.200 --> 01:35:37.200]  And they gave me two law firms that represent the Federal National Mortgage Association
[01:35:37.200 --> 01:35:44.200]  and none of them that filed a proof of claim have been hired by the Federal National Mortgage Association.
[01:35:44.200 --> 01:35:48.200]  So basically, there is no debt owed to the first lienholder.
[01:35:48.200 --> 01:35:50.200]  Well, even a sign...
[01:35:50.200 --> 01:36:03.200]  You can file an adversarial action and demand proof that they represent Fannie Mae by a contract that they have with Fannie Mae.
[01:36:03.200 --> 01:36:05.200]  Yes, for copy the contract.
[01:36:05.200 --> 01:36:06.200]  Exactly.
[01:36:06.200 --> 01:36:07.200]  That's what we did.
[01:36:07.200 --> 01:36:13.200]  That's exactly what we did in the adversary proceeding, Randy, way back about three months ago.
[01:36:13.200 --> 01:36:19.200]  The judge that had the bankruptcy case shifted it over to another judge that was retiring.
[01:36:19.200 --> 01:36:20.200]  Actually, next month, he's retired.
[01:36:20.200 --> 01:36:21.200]  Next month, of all people.
[01:36:21.200 --> 01:36:28.200]  And he had everybody come in, and he dismissed everything, and he said nobody in here is allowed to talk.
[01:36:28.200 --> 01:36:29.200]  I want everybody quiet.
[01:36:29.200 --> 01:36:33.200]  Just introduce your names for the record, and I want nobody to say a word.
[01:36:33.200 --> 01:36:42.200]  And he said, and all he said, everybody wants to scream, fraud this, fraud that, fraud that, fraud this, and then nobody wants to pay their bills.
[01:36:42.200 --> 01:36:43.200]  That's what we got going on here.
[01:36:43.200 --> 01:36:45.200]  Therefore, this case is hereby dismissed.
[01:36:45.200 --> 01:36:47.200]  He just like, I mean, it was...
[01:36:47.200 --> 01:36:50.200]  No, because that's easy enough to fix.
[01:36:50.200 --> 01:36:51.200]  We've...
[01:36:51.200 --> 01:36:54.200]  No way, that's on the field of the district court.
[01:36:54.200 --> 01:36:55.200]  Yeah.
[01:36:55.200 --> 01:37:02.200]  That'll go, you know, you appeal that, and then you need to file against the judge.
[01:37:02.200 --> 01:37:05.200]  You ought to file a criminal against the judge.
[01:37:05.200 --> 01:37:07.200]  That is criminal.
[01:37:07.200 --> 01:37:08.200]  You're entitled...
[01:37:08.200 --> 01:37:12.200]  You're entitled to prove that they represent the party they say they do.
[01:37:12.200 --> 01:37:14.200]  And they don't.
[01:37:14.200 --> 01:37:15.200]  We already talked...
[01:37:15.200 --> 01:37:17.200]  We already talked to the Federal National Morgan Association.
[01:37:17.200 --> 01:37:18.200]  We already talked to them.
[01:37:18.200 --> 01:37:27.200]  And we also talked to Key Bank, and nobody to this day has produced any of the documents that they represent Key Bank or the Federal National Morgan Association.
[01:37:27.200 --> 01:37:32.200]  So we have two issues. The first one is a complete joke.
[01:37:32.200 --> 01:37:37.200]  The first one is a smaller mass compared to the first lean holder.
[01:37:37.200 --> 01:37:44.200]  But, Randy, I don't want to keep on rattling on and everything like that, but this has been going on for almost five years.
[01:37:44.200 --> 01:37:46.200]  Oh, that's not long at all.
[01:37:46.200 --> 01:37:49.200]  I've been at it 10 years.
[01:37:49.200 --> 01:37:52.200]  I've been at it 10 years.
[01:37:52.200 --> 01:37:56.200]  Okay, that was the point I wanted to make to you, Shane.
[01:37:56.200 --> 01:38:06.200]  The fact that they're trying to sell the property doesn't mean very much because you're just getting warmed up on them.
[01:38:06.200 --> 01:38:10.200]  So don't start unpacking yet.
[01:38:10.200 --> 01:38:11.200]  We have not...
[01:38:11.200 --> 01:38:14.200]  Not only that, Randy.
[01:38:14.200 --> 01:38:36.200]  I would really be interested to see what happens when he's got an award that far exceeds the amount owed on the House, and the trustee has to liquidate that and pay everybody, and he's going to prove who owed what to who before he releases any funds.
[01:38:36.200 --> 01:38:37.200]  Am I right?
[01:38:37.200 --> 01:38:40.200]  To get involved in this.
[01:38:40.200 --> 01:38:45.200]  Am I right, Randy?
[01:38:45.200 --> 01:39:06.200]  Randy, when the trustee has an award in excess of the amount owed on the House and they have to liquidate that to pay the bills, won't he be very sure who he's paying before he releases any funds?
[01:39:06.200 --> 01:39:14.200]  Absolutely. Now they have to prove up their numbers. They can't just come in there and say, you owe this much.
[01:39:14.200 --> 01:39:19.200]  That's where you go to my qualified written request.
[01:39:19.200 --> 01:39:20.200]  Yes.
[01:39:20.200 --> 01:39:25.200]  I've got a qualified written request that'll rip them to shreds on the numbers.
[01:39:25.200 --> 01:39:32.200]  Yeah, we can add that to my arbitration agreement.
[01:39:32.200 --> 01:39:37.200]  Can I ask you what the fee of arbitration is? What the fee is?
[01:39:37.200 --> 01:39:43.200]  The fees run from $500 to $700, and then it costs...
[01:39:43.200 --> 01:39:51.200]  When you have it...when you put it into a district court for confirmation, it costs $400.
[01:39:51.200 --> 01:40:02.200]  If you're already in bankruptcy, the trustee has that as an asset belonging to you, and then you can have that to liquidate your estate.
[01:40:02.200 --> 01:40:08.200]  Okay. And who do we contact for that? How do we get step one going on a Monday?
[01:40:08.200 --> 01:40:14.200]  I will give you...you send me an email. I'll send it to Leslie, and Leslie and you can...
[01:40:14.200 --> 01:40:21.200]  I'll send you a questionnaire, and I'll generate the paperwork, and then you can start mailing stuff.
[01:40:21.200 --> 01:40:30.200]  And it'll take about four weeks. It's 10 days. It takes about two weeks for the contract to mature because you have to wait 10 days.
[01:40:30.200 --> 01:40:37.200]  And then after 10 days, you have to send a notice of false and opportunity to cure.
[01:40:37.200 --> 01:40:45.200]  That takes an extra four days by the time you mail it, they get it, it comes back to you, and then you have another one that takes another four or five days.
[01:40:45.200 --> 01:40:49.200]  And then you just file for an arbitration.
[01:40:49.200 --> 01:40:53.200]  Now, if we do that with...can we do that with Keybank?
[01:40:53.200 --> 01:40:57.200]  Even though they haven't filed a proof of claim about bankruptcy yet, can we still do that with Keybank?
[01:40:57.200 --> 01:41:00.200]  You do it with any banks. Did you have an account?
[01:41:00.200 --> 01:41:11.200]  Does Keybank claim contractual privity? They claim you owe them something.
[01:41:11.200 --> 01:41:15.200]  Well, I don't...that's the whole thing. I think I wonder if my mom should do this for the bankruptcy.
[01:41:15.200 --> 01:41:21.200]  Can I still do this? But I don't have any contracts with Keybank for the first loan, although none.
[01:41:21.200 --> 01:41:24.200]  And you have a...you have a quick claim.
[01:41:24.200 --> 01:41:27.200]  I have a quick claim. Correct.
[01:41:27.200 --> 01:41:34.200]  I think I would let his mother get into it, too, if he's more concerned about his mother's property.
[01:41:34.200 --> 01:41:40.200]  Well, it's really my property, because she quick-claimed it over to me, and we did this two years ago, not knowing the future.
[01:41:40.200 --> 01:41:46.200]  And I'm so glad we did this now, Randy, because it stopped the sale of the property on Wednesday. Otherwise, it would have been sold.
[01:41:46.200 --> 01:41:47.200]  Okay.
[01:41:47.200 --> 01:41:53.200]  And that would have to be out in 30 days. So it's really amazing how it all worked out. It bought us another...you know...
[01:41:53.200 --> 01:41:55.200]  Under the quick claim.
[01:41:55.200 --> 01:41:57.200]  Under the order.
[01:41:57.200 --> 01:42:02.200]  You have the same claim your mother would have had.
[01:42:02.200 --> 01:42:11.200]  So you have enough to claim contractual privity and move on the arbitration award.
[01:42:11.200 --> 01:42:18.200]  Leslie, would that create a weak spot in the default?
[01:42:18.200 --> 01:42:21.200]  No.
[01:42:21.200 --> 01:42:32.200]  Because he's going to send something that looks like the QWR, has QWR questions in it, on top of the other questions with the arbitration agreement, and the...
[01:42:32.200 --> 01:42:35.200]  Okay. I think I understand.
[01:42:35.200 --> 01:42:43.200]  In order for that to create a weak spot, the other party would have to claim that weakness.
[01:42:43.200 --> 01:42:47.200]  If they don't claim it, then they waive it.
[01:42:47.200 --> 01:42:52.200]  Right. If they respond with less than full response, that's a waiver.
[01:42:52.200 --> 01:42:58.200]  If they respond to each and every point, it's admission of fraud.
[01:42:58.200 --> 01:43:07.200]  So...and if they say that, you know, they have no interest in him, then they have to quit doing what they're doing.
[01:43:07.200 --> 01:43:10.200]  So they can't respond.
[01:43:10.200 --> 01:43:11.200]  That's the problem.
[01:43:11.200 --> 01:43:18.200]  The T...Randy, what was the name that you said, the written, qualified request? I can't really do that until they file their proof of claim.
[01:43:18.200 --> 01:43:20.200]  And then they game on, right?
[01:43:20.200 --> 01:43:24.200]  No, no. You can file anything you want to.
[01:43:24.200 --> 01:43:32.200]  They just...if they think there's a problem with it, treat it as a qualified written request or treat it as discovery.
[01:43:32.200 --> 01:43:35.200]  Hang on. I'm about to go to break.
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[01:46:27.200 --> 01:46:36.200]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, rule of law radio, and we're talking to Shane, but we have Tina on the line.
[01:46:36.200 --> 01:46:46.200]  And I suspect she has a comment on this issue. Hello, Tina.
[01:46:46.200 --> 01:46:50.200]  Did you have a comment on what we're talking about?
[01:46:50.200 --> 01:47:02.200]  Well, I have a question, and I don't... forgive me, bad grammar, if I asked you this before, because my memory is terrible.
[01:47:02.200 --> 01:47:12.200]  Yeah, we understand your bad grammar because we know you're not a native speaker of English.
[01:47:12.200 --> 01:47:25.200]  Oh, yes, I'm going to give you some English lessons, one of these days. Could this help, this arbitration, help somebody who's already been put closed on, like me?
[01:47:25.200 --> 01:47:33.200]  Is there any way to do that when it's gone?
[01:47:33.200 --> 01:47:42.200]  That's a good question, to be honest with you. Like, they sold my house already, but we're still in the courts actively.
[01:47:42.200 --> 01:47:51.200]  So mine is not completely finished, and I got my award before they sold the house.
[01:47:51.200 --> 01:48:02.200]  But I don't know if they've already sold the house if you have no contractual relationship with them, how that would help you.
[01:48:02.200 --> 01:48:03.200]  That's the problem.
[01:48:03.200 --> 01:48:08.200]  I wish I'd known you and Randy, you know, three years ago.
[01:48:08.200 --> 01:48:10.200]  Yeah.
[01:48:10.200 --> 01:48:19.200]  I still have my beautiful, lovely house and income. I wouldn't be a destitute corporate right now.
[01:48:19.200 --> 01:48:21.200]  Yeah.
[01:48:21.200 --> 01:48:32.200]  I do have someone in Florida who's about to lose. He's been fighting the same bank for 10 years, and he's a veteran. He's almost a suicide.
[01:48:32.200 --> 01:48:37.200]  I swear I've talked to him when he's just been crying and said, I just want to end it all.
[01:48:37.200 --> 01:48:51.200]  And he said, I took a nose to, you know, to fight domestic terrorists and barren, and here I'm fighting a domestic terrorist in one way or the other.
[01:48:51.200 --> 01:48:59.200]  At the end of his rope, I don't know if he can take much more. I'd like to see if you could help him.
[01:48:59.200 --> 01:49:04.200]  I don't know that he can even fill out forms anymore to distraught.
[01:49:04.200 --> 01:49:16.200]  All he needs to do is answer a questionnaire because I have the forms already into where I could put the names and information in a database and spit out forms like crazy.
[01:49:16.200 --> 01:49:27.200]  Yeah. He lost one half of his property. He had a unity of title, and they were able to take one half of it, but he's fought and fought for the other.
[01:49:27.200 --> 01:49:34.200]  If he could throw a spanner in the works, he would. That's wrench to you, Randy. A spanner is a...
[01:49:34.200 --> 01:49:41.200]  Ah, yeah. I know a spanner is a wrench. My grandfather looks like he does.
[01:49:41.200 --> 01:49:51.200]  Just clarifying things for Randy because, you know, he's a little flowy from Podunk, you know, Tennessee.
[01:49:51.200 --> 01:50:00.200]  Well, if you could help him, even if I can't be helped with this, this would be awesome because, you know, I've gone through this journey with him, you know, sitting there.
[01:50:00.200 --> 01:50:03.200]  And when you've heard a grown man cry on the phone...
[01:50:03.200 --> 01:50:05.200]  Oh, yeah.
[01:50:05.200 --> 01:50:07.200]  It's like his lender, by the way.
[01:50:07.200 --> 01:50:14.200]  This is the third one I've done. Well, it was one worst thing. It started with IndieMix. They got sold.
[01:50:14.200 --> 01:50:18.200]  Yes. I recently heard a grown man cry.
[01:50:18.200 --> 01:50:27.200]  Yeah. It's horrible. Yeah. I put in a... I took out the bathtub for my mother's bathroom because she couldn't get in it and put it in a shower.
[01:50:27.200 --> 01:50:34.200]  And I went to the VA and they asked me if I... They always check you for PTSD.
[01:50:34.200 --> 01:50:39.200]  And they asked me if I'd had any traumatic experiences lately. And I said, yes, I have.
[01:50:39.200 --> 01:50:50.200]  I put in that shower and I had to check it out to make sure it works. And over my mom's vanity, she has this big six foot mirror.
[01:50:50.200 --> 01:50:55.200]  And I accidentally saw myself naked.
[01:50:55.200 --> 01:50:57.200]  Oh, that's a horrible situation.
[01:50:57.200 --> 01:51:02.200]  The nurse said, was it that bad? Oh, yeah. It was bad.
[01:51:02.200 --> 01:51:05.200]  Do I get a disability? No.
[01:51:05.200 --> 01:51:10.200]  Hey, I don't get a disability.
[01:51:10.200 --> 01:51:19.200]  But yeah, I mean, I just... One guy I called, he lost his house, but twice I've been on the phone with him for two hours trying to talk him out of suicide.
[01:51:19.200 --> 01:51:23.200]  I ended up having to call him first time since I had prevention.
[01:51:23.200 --> 01:51:30.200]  And it's... But this guy, he's just such a fighter and a hard worker, but I can tell he's at the end of his rope.
[01:51:30.200 --> 01:51:40.200]  He needs a miracle right now. But he's relied way too much on horrible attorneys who have taken him for every penny he's got.
[01:51:40.200 --> 01:51:55.200]  I will tell you right now, attorneys are wonderful for some things, but you have to create every pleading and tell them when exactly to put it in and don't take no for an answer.
[01:51:55.200 --> 01:52:03.200]  Because I had attorneys screw me left and right, and it's not what you pay or what you don't pay. It's their carelessness.
[01:52:03.200 --> 01:52:10.200]  They don't have a dog in the hunt, so they're not... They really are not what you call focused.
[01:52:10.200 --> 01:52:14.200]  No. And nobody's focused like you are.
[01:52:14.200 --> 01:52:16.200]  He proved me royally.
[01:52:16.200 --> 01:52:17.200]  Yeah.
[01:52:17.200 --> 01:52:29.200]  He refused to put in an objection to the proof of claim. He said, I've read it. It's fine. It had so much fraud in it, and the figures were incorrect, and he refused.
[01:52:29.200 --> 01:52:31.200]  How long ago was...
[01:52:31.200 --> 01:52:33.200]  Then you should have fired him and it doesn't hurt yourself.
[01:52:33.200 --> 01:52:36.200]  You should sue the lawyer for the value of the property.
[01:52:36.200 --> 01:52:47.200]  Well, then I had another attorney. I was recommended to this other BK attorney. She said, oh, I've never lost the case yet, but you need to change this to Chapter 7.
[01:52:47.200 --> 01:52:59.200]  But like the other guy, I didn't have any debt except this house. I had already taken care of all that, and then she failed to file something on time, and then the judge just said, no, this belongs in the state court.
[01:52:59.200 --> 01:53:11.200]  I had taken it out, and I lost the house because of the judge, the attorney, and the judge failing to do something on time and just lying about it.
[01:53:11.200 --> 01:53:13.200]  And so...
[01:53:13.200 --> 01:53:23.200]  I'll tell you something here. I had the same thing this week. I had an appeal here in Arizona on a foreclosure case where I had...
[01:53:23.200 --> 01:53:41.200]  They found against me, and they violated the law to do it, and we have it in a court of appeals, and they said the amount was due by the 25th, and the lawyer didn't send the money in in time, and I told him a week ago to do it.
[01:53:41.200 --> 01:53:59.200]  Fortunately, they filed some paperwork and got an extension of three days. But it's like I'm saying, you have to be on them all the time. Do not trust an attorney to be by himself. You stay right on his back end and check everything he files.
[01:53:59.200 --> 01:54:11.200]  And they don't... Their worst is when they come to in front of the judge. You know, I told my last attorney, I said, you're a total pussy in front of the judge. You're too afraid of him, and this is wrong.
[01:54:11.200 --> 01:54:21.200]  I said, are you even talking to the other side? And I swear he was talking to the other side, and just make using me to pay his rent.
[01:54:21.200 --> 01:54:26.200]  I would stop hiring attorneys if you could do it for yourself better.
[01:54:26.200 --> 01:54:39.200]  I mean it. I'm trying to write this. They're doing the declaratory judgment. I did that, and I'm trying to get the answer. I have troubles writing it, but I'm trying not to hire an attorney, probably because I don't have any money to hire one anyway.
[01:54:39.200 --> 01:54:51.200]  I have to do it myself now, and I'm trying to help others. So if I can put James Beakman away from Florida, if you can help him, it would be a miracle because he needs this miracle.
[01:54:51.200 --> 01:54:57.200]  He is just literally at the end of a rope.
[01:54:57.200 --> 01:55:04.200]  I don't charge for what I do. I do not charge for what I do with my daughter.
[01:55:04.200 --> 01:55:06.200]  Huh?
[01:55:06.200 --> 01:55:17.200]  He would be willing to pay you anything that he could afford if you can save his house, because it's his business too. If he has to move from...
[01:55:17.200 --> 01:55:30.200]  Yeah, well, he has to save his money to pay the arbitration board and to have it confirmed, and it'll cost him a total of about $1,200.
[01:55:30.200 --> 01:55:37.200]  I will put him... I will send you his email and his phone number. I will tell him he has to talk to you.
[01:55:37.200 --> 01:55:49.200]  Somebody else from Arizona supposedly helping him, and she is some kind of paralegal. I got to tell you, she has missed every deadline.
[01:55:49.200 --> 01:55:59.200]  She spends hours telling him and me how wonderful she is. She screwed me over and missed every deadline and kept saying, you need my perfect other suit.
[01:55:59.200 --> 01:56:07.200]  I said, no, I hired you to write a complaint against the judges, because you said you've had judges and policemen kicked off.
[01:56:07.200 --> 01:56:15.200]  That's what I hired you to do. And she didn't do it. She kept saying, you need another complaint. No, I've got residue to cut her.
[01:56:15.200 --> 01:56:24.200]  I've got all this. I need to file these complaints in time. Of course, she spent eight months telling me how wonderful she was and then didn't do it.
[01:56:24.200 --> 01:56:33.200]  And she's still trying to do the same with James. So if he can go kind of behind the scenes like you're doing, I think it's a wonderful idea.
[01:56:33.200 --> 01:56:43.200]  And I wish I had a few more people that you could help to do this. In fact, I do have one, but I don't even think she can make the money for the arbitration.
[01:56:43.200 --> 01:56:48.200]  But maybe I can figure out a way to help her somehow.
[01:56:48.200 --> 01:57:00.200]  So, yeah, thank you for letting me know that you can't help me on this. But if you can help James, I would be eternally grateful because I've known him for years now all through this, never met him.
[01:57:00.200 --> 01:57:08.200]  We've become a little family of online people and from people just by being screwed by One West Bank.
[01:57:08.200 --> 01:57:19.200]  And he started with IndieMag, went to One West, and now it is SIT Group because One West sold their operation to SIT Group. So it's gone through all these steps.
[01:57:19.200 --> 01:57:26.200]  And he's got so much food in his, you would just have a feel today with it.
[01:57:26.200 --> 01:57:39.200]  And it's Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and all those others are all involved. And he's the one we wrote an attorney complaint for because he wrote a really emotional one and I helped him clean it up.
[01:57:39.200 --> 01:57:46.200]  Thanks to you guys teaching me how to do that. And the attorney withdrew from all cases.
[01:57:46.200 --> 01:58:01.200]  Yeah. Well, like I said, attorneys I do not trust. It's not that I do not trust the attorneys, their hearts are good, but their focus is not.
[01:58:01.200 --> 01:58:14.200]  So you have to be focused on your case and keep pushing him. And then if you don't like it, tell him, look, I'm taking you off my case, you're only going to be there for arguments in the court.
[01:58:14.200 --> 01:58:19.200]  Okay. Hold on. We are out of time.
[01:58:19.200 --> 01:58:24.200]  Oh, I'm enjoying it.
[01:58:24.200 --> 01:58:32.200]  Cindy, you have your numbers. You can contact each other and finish this.
[01:58:32.200 --> 01:58:43.200]  But we've got to sign out. Thank you all for listening. We'll be back next week. Same time, same station. Good night.
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