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[00:46.480 --> 00:51.960]  Today in History, the year 1541, after three years in exile, John Calvin returns to Geneva
[00:51.960 --> 00:56.120]  to reform the church under a body of doctrine known as Calvinism.
[00:56.120 --> 01:04.980]  In recent news, Hillary Clinton's new already-on-discount book, What Happened, officially hit store
[01:04.980 --> 01:05.980]  shelves Tuesday.
[01:05.980 --> 01:10.000]  Of the many things she blamed for her loss in the 2016 presidential race, she mentioned
[01:10.000 --> 01:13.840]  Russia in the election within the first few pages, quote, the press treated our warnings
[01:13.840 --> 01:17.400]  about Russia like it was spin we'd cooked up in order to distract from embarrassing
[01:17.400 --> 01:18.560]  revelations.
[01:18.560 --> 01:22.040]  She blamed President Trump, saying that listening to Trump, it almost felt like there was no
[01:22.040 --> 01:26.640]  such thing as truth anymore, that his strategy consisted of an appeal to the ugliest impulses
[01:26.640 --> 01:28.140]  of our national character.
[01:28.140 --> 01:29.140]  She blamed Wall Street.
[01:29.140 --> 01:32.520]  I didn't think many Americans would believe that I'd sell a lifetime of principle and
[01:32.520 --> 01:34.020]  advocacy for any price.
[01:34.020 --> 01:36.920]  I should have stayed away from anything having to do with Wall Street.
[01:36.920 --> 01:37.920]  I didn't.
[01:37.920 --> 01:38.920]  That's all me.
[01:38.920 --> 01:40.160]  Yeah, right, Hillary.
[01:40.160 --> 01:44.400]  Closed-door meetings with Wall Street corporate donors could have had no foreseeable problems.
[01:44.400 --> 01:47.600]  She blamed the scandal over state department emails on her private server.
[01:47.600 --> 01:51.120]  It was a dumb mistake, she said, but even a dumber scandal.
[01:51.120 --> 01:52.120]  It was like quicksand.
[01:52.120 --> 01:54.280]  The more you struggle, the deeper you sink.
[01:54.280 --> 01:58.040]  She blamed former FBI Director James Comey, saying that, quote, Comey made the choice
[01:58.040 --> 02:02.640]  to extricate me in public in July and then dramatically reopened the investigation on
[02:02.640 --> 02:06.720]  October 28th, all while refusing to say a word about Trump and Russia.
[02:06.720 --> 02:09.600]  Not for those decisions, everything would have been different.
[02:09.600 --> 02:14.240]  And she even blamed patriarchy, stating that sexism and misogyny played a role in the 2016
[02:14.240 --> 02:16.200]  presidential election.
[02:16.200 --> 02:24.000]  But A is the flagrantly sexist candidate one.
[02:24.000 --> 02:27.720]  Days after Hurricane Harvey's onslaught across the Lone Star State, the coast was still very
[02:27.720 --> 02:30.400]  much littered with dead fish and other sea creatures.
[02:30.400 --> 02:34.720]  Pretied to say of the National Auburn Society, discovered a strange-looking sea animal, posting
[02:34.720 --> 02:38.200]  a photo of it on Twitter to see if anyone knew what it was.
[02:38.200 --> 02:42.760]  Experts responded with guesses that it was some sort of eel, possibly a fangtooth snake
[02:42.760 --> 02:43.760]  eel.
[02:43.760 --> 02:48.160]  But it was the longest hurricane that remained a name stormed after landfall in Texas.
[02:48.160 --> 02:52.200]  It killed at least 70 people and dumped at least 51 inches of rain.
[02:52.200 --> 03:01.200]  This is Rook Rody with your Lone Down for September 13, 2017.
[03:01.200 --> 03:17.160]  Let's go, guy!
[03:17.160 --> 03:29.500]  Tell me, what she gonna do, what she gonna do Yeah, bad boys, bad boys, what she gonna
[03:29.500 --> 03:35.900]  do, what she gonna do when they come for you Bad boys, bad boys, what she gonna do, what
[03:35.900 --> 03:41.200]  she gonna do when they come for you When you were eight and you had bad trees, you
[03:41.200 --> 03:46.560]  go to school and learn to go, well they don't lose So why are you acting like a bloody fool
[03:46.560 --> 03:52.520]  If you get hot, then you must get cool Bad boys, bad boys, what she gonna do, what she
[03:52.520 --> 03:58.240]  gonna do when they come for you Bad boys, bad boys, what she gonna do, what she gonna
[03:58.240 --> 04:04.220]  do when they come for you Okay, howdy howdy, Randy Kelton, Deborah
[04:04.220 --> 04:14.080]  Stevens, Rue LeVar Radio on this Thursday, the fifth day of October 2017, and I want
[04:14.080 --> 04:21.480]  to start out today with Government Shields and Patriot Mythology.
[04:21.480 --> 04:28.320]  We've been doing this show a long time, and when we started out some ten years ago, there
[04:28.320 --> 04:37.360]  was a massive amount of Patriot mythology out there, and the two folks that set up
[04:37.360 --> 04:46.960]  Deputy Poirier and they had somehow come across some of my arguments and issues and they asked
[04:46.960 --> 04:53.160]  me to do a show on here, and I think it was because they recognized that there's so much
[04:53.160 --> 05:01.080]  Patriot mythology out there that people were getting themselves in a lot of trouble listening
[05:01.080 --> 05:08.480]  to folks who seem to always have some magic bullet.
[05:08.480 --> 05:13.720]  And over the years, if you've listened to the show for a while, you will have heard
[05:13.720 --> 05:22.880]  people come on to our show and talk about these things that are supposedly magic bullets.
[05:22.880 --> 05:34.440]  One that stands out for me was Guy in Arizona in Las Vegas who was doing some kind of work
[05:34.440 --> 05:43.200]  on automatic weapons and got the ATF and the feds after him, generally, and he went to
[05:43.200 --> 05:48.480]  the feds and filed a demand of certification of commencement.
[05:48.480 --> 05:54.960]  And wowzers, when I filed that certification, the demand of certification of the commencement,
[05:54.960 --> 05:59.160]  they released me on my own recognizance.
[05:59.160 --> 06:04.560]  And he's telling everybody, all you need to do is file a demand for certification of
[06:04.560 --> 06:10.320]  commencement and they're going to let you out, and I told him, but you're going to
[06:10.320 --> 06:17.960]  go to jail because what you're doing is not paying attention to what the law says.
[06:17.960 --> 06:24.480]  The feds almost always release people on their personal cognizance.
[06:24.480 --> 06:31.720]  And certification of commencement is just a prosecuting attorney certifying that a prosecution
[06:31.720 --> 06:32.720]  has commenced.
[06:32.720 --> 06:33.720]  Doesn't mean anything.
[06:33.720 --> 06:39.920]  Well, the guy's in jail right now.
[06:39.920 --> 06:44.840]  Somebody had told him that all he had to do was demand for a certification of commencement
[06:44.840 --> 06:51.760]  and that was this magic bullet that all of a sudden nullified all of the laws and statutes
[06:51.760 --> 06:59.360]  and he could do anything he wanted to and he was free and clear what was in jail now.
[06:59.360 --> 07:05.840]  And then we have people say that all we have to do is say, I don't agree with your contract.
[07:05.840 --> 07:10.240]  And the courts should just go away.
[07:10.240 --> 07:15.000]  And for the most part, what I told them was when you throw something at them that they
[07:15.000 --> 07:21.720]  haven't seen before, a lot of times they will mark time.
[07:21.720 --> 07:26.400]  So they can back up and do some research to figure out what in the heck is this guy talking
[07:26.400 --> 07:27.400]  about.
[07:27.400 --> 07:32.560]  Then they're going to come back and roll over you like a steamroller.
[07:32.560 --> 07:40.480]  This IRS trying to remember the exact term where you could just file some document.
[07:40.480 --> 07:45.600]  The IRS and the government would pay off all your taxes.
[07:45.600 --> 07:52.240]  It wasn't a 1040, it was OID, some number OID.
[07:52.240 --> 07:59.760]  And oh, that was just the magic bullet of what it turned out to be is they were using
[07:59.760 --> 08:04.640]  a IRS tool that was developed for business for a special purpose.
[08:04.640 --> 08:08.440]  And they were using it in a different manner.
[08:08.440 --> 08:13.480]  So the agents, when they come across this, they've never seen anything like this before.
[08:13.480 --> 08:16.360]  So they didn't know what was going on.
[08:16.360 --> 08:21.240]  So they backed up, did their research, and then they came back and landed on everybody
[08:21.240 --> 08:25.320]  like a ton of bricks.
[08:25.320 --> 08:30.920]  And there seems to be another one of these things floating around right now.
[08:30.920 --> 08:40.760]  And I do not like to point fingers at other members of the legal reform community because
[08:40.760 --> 08:44.320]  there's not enough of us out there.
[08:44.320 --> 08:53.680]  But sometimes I get concerned that those in government who don't like the fact that there
[08:53.680 --> 09:02.960]  are those like us out here, they want to put people out there who can or ideas and methods
[09:02.960 --> 09:07.720]  out there that can debunk what we're doing.
[09:07.720 --> 09:13.600]  So they come out here and create this patriot mythology and get a bunch of people to follow
[09:13.600 --> 09:19.200]  it and then have them wind up having the sky fall in on them.
[09:19.200 --> 09:25.960]  And then they paint all of us with the same brush.
[09:25.960 --> 09:29.280]  They poison our wells.
[09:29.280 --> 09:33.240]  And sometimes I think it's deliberate.
[09:33.240 --> 09:41.480]  Sometimes it appears to be people who are very well-intentioned, but don't have a broad
[09:41.480 --> 09:50.280]  enough understanding of the underlying law so that they read something out of context,
[09:50.280 --> 09:57.800]  jump to inappropriate conclusions, and then make horrendous errors of judgment, and then
[09:57.800 --> 10:07.360]  promote those errors of judgment on the unsuspected, the legally form-minded individual.
[10:07.360 --> 10:08.800]  And we have one of those right now.
[10:08.800 --> 10:14.240]  I got Debra here and I wanted to bring Debra in to talk about this issue because we had
[10:14.240 --> 10:18.000]  a couple of people on the show speak to this issue.
[10:18.000 --> 10:24.440]  One while back and we kind of debunked it and in one relatively recently, apparently
[10:24.440 --> 10:28.640]  the one a long time back has had the IRS come back after him.
[10:28.640 --> 10:30.680]  Debra, you kind of explained that.
[10:30.680 --> 10:31.680]  Yes.
[10:31.680 --> 10:35.360]  I wanted to discuss this tonight.
[10:35.360 --> 10:42.400]  Thanks, Randy, because this has come across my desk twice now today.
[10:42.400 --> 10:47.720]  And this started up a few weeks ago, maybe a month or so ago back.
[10:47.720 --> 10:54.880]  There was a caller that called in the Tom Kiley show right before our show and she was
[10:54.880 --> 10:59.440]  being real braggadocious about how she had beat the IRS in court.
[10:59.440 --> 11:03.000]  Randy, you're making a lot of background noise, by the way.
[11:03.000 --> 11:09.160]  So anyways, it sounded very intriguing and she was really making a big deal about it
[11:09.160 --> 11:12.600]  towards the end of Tom's show and couldn't really finish telling the story.
[11:12.600 --> 11:18.360]  So right before Tom got off the air, I screamed the call before she would have a chance to
[11:18.360 --> 11:19.360]  hang up.
[11:19.360 --> 11:22.600]  I said, listen, why don't you call into my show because we discussed legal issues and
[11:22.600 --> 11:24.280]  we can really get into this.
[11:24.280 --> 11:25.880]  So she said, okay.
[11:25.880 --> 11:31.920]  And so she called in and Randy, you and I talked to this woman for probably at least
[11:31.920 --> 11:35.080]  a half an hour, maybe 45 minutes.
[11:35.080 --> 11:44.040]  And finally, we get to the point where it's like, wait a minute, hold on here.
[11:44.040 --> 11:52.120]  Are you trying to say that you filed a petition in tax court and got your case dismissed and
[11:52.120 --> 11:55.120]  now you're trying to tell us that you had a victory?
[11:55.120 --> 11:56.120]  Is that what you're trying to say?
[11:56.120 --> 11:59.600]  Oh, yes, that's exactly what I'm trying to say.
[11:59.600 --> 12:10.680]  Okay, folks, listen, this goes to jurisdiction and who the petitioner is and procedure.
[12:10.680 --> 12:14.560]  The IRS does not take you to tax court, okay.
[12:14.560 --> 12:21.120]  When the IRS is after you, you have several options and two of those options are you can
[12:21.120 --> 12:27.200]  file a lawsuit against the IRS and federal district court or you can file a case, open
[12:27.200 --> 12:30.880]  a case in tax court as a petitioner.
[12:30.880 --> 12:34.400]  The only petitioners in tax court are people that are in trouble with the IRS.
[12:34.400 --> 12:36.960]  The IRS never files a case in tax court.
[12:36.960 --> 12:40.560]  You file the case in tax court if you're in trouble with the IRS.
[12:40.560 --> 12:48.640]  And so she had gotten these documents from I guess what we would have to categorize as
[12:48.640 --> 12:57.680]  one of these patronut, legal mythology type of programs filing various types of documents
[12:57.680 --> 13:06.640]  in tax court to try to get out of trouble and the tax court proceeded to dismiss her case,
[13:06.640 --> 13:12.120]  dismiss her out for lack of subject matter jurisdiction for exactly the reasons that
[13:12.120 --> 13:16.720]  she stated in the documents and she thought this was some kind of a victory.
[13:16.720 --> 13:22.840]  And we're trying to show her, no, you're the plaintiff, look, it's this simple and I'm
[13:22.840 --> 13:27.800]  going to, I'm going to, I'm getting to the microphone here, but, but people, before we
[13:27.800 --> 13:32.400]  go any further, I want you to realize something very, very important here.
[13:32.400 --> 13:37.520]  If you are the petitioner, if you are the plaintiff in any case, I don't care if it's
[13:37.520 --> 13:43.840]  tax court or administrative court or any kind of case, if you are the one bringing the case
[13:43.840 --> 13:50.840]  to the court and it gets dismissed, that means you lose, it doesn't mean you win.
[13:50.840 --> 13:58.720]  Deb, hold on a second, you didn't explain what she did, what she did was she went to
[13:58.720 --> 14:01.840]  the tax court and petitioned the tax court.
[14:01.840 --> 14:02.840]  Yes.
[14:02.840 --> 14:07.920]  And then the tax court said, okay, we'll set up your case, but you have to file these
[14:07.920 --> 14:12.720]  documents with us and there's a heck with you, I'm not filing anything with you and
[14:12.720 --> 14:17.280]  the tax court said, okay, you didn't file these documents with us.
[14:17.280 --> 14:24.280]  So you were on, you did not properly invoke our jurisdiction so we can hear your issue.
[14:24.280 --> 14:26.880]  And then they said, we got it dismissed.
[14:26.880 --> 14:27.880]  So we won.
[14:27.880 --> 14:28.880]  Yes.
[14:28.880 --> 14:29.880]  Okay.
[14:29.880 --> 14:36.800]  And she, folks, if you listen to this show and I don't remember what day it is, she absolutely
[14:36.800 --> 14:41.800]  would not accept the fact that she had lost her case.
[14:41.800 --> 14:47.640]  And these documents, the initial documents that she filed had all the legal mythology
[14:47.640 --> 14:55.160]  in it about why the IRS doesn't have authority over her and she's not at this or that, whatever
[14:55.160 --> 14:59.600]  the reasons were, okay, I don't even remember what it was, all right, but it sounded like
[14:59.600 --> 15:03.160]  a bunch of mumbo jumbo to me, okay.
[15:03.160 --> 15:10.200]  And so it was like, we kept asking her, okay, ma'am.
[15:10.200 --> 15:19.040]  How is the result that you got, how is that going to stop the IRS from proceeding to enforce
[15:19.040 --> 15:25.440]  their levy or lien or property seizure or jail, et cetera, whatever it is they're threatening
[15:25.440 --> 15:26.440]  against you?
[15:26.440 --> 15:28.480]  Well, because they don't have any jurisdiction.
[15:28.480 --> 15:29.480]  They said so.
[15:29.480 --> 15:31.320]  No, they didn't say so.
[15:31.320 --> 15:35.000]  The tax court said they didn't have jurisdiction to hear your case.
[15:35.000 --> 15:37.560]  The IRS never said they don't have jurisdiction.
[15:37.560 --> 15:42.880]  She would not accept this, okay, people who listen to this note will remember this call.
[15:42.880 --> 15:47.600]  She absolutely would not accept it and she was promoting the name of this program.
[15:47.600 --> 15:53.680]  And it sounds familiar to me, this is a third or fourth time I've heard about this now and
[15:53.680 --> 15:59.200]  it has to do with Weiss-Paris, W-E-I-S-S-P-A-R-I-S, okay.
[15:59.200 --> 16:02.600]  And I'm going to tell you more, okay, when we get on the other side.
[16:02.600 --> 16:10.200]  I have another story about somebody that just came to me today that is about to land in
[16:10.200 --> 16:15.040]  jail because of using this Weiss-Paris program, okay.
[16:15.040 --> 16:24.160]  And in fact, this mutual friend told me today that he even called into our show asking about
[16:24.160 --> 16:29.280]  this before he got involved in it and before he got too far down the road into it and we
[16:29.280 --> 16:36.280]  told him on the air not to do this and he did it anyway and now he's about to go to
[16:36.280 --> 16:38.000]  jail, okay.
[16:38.000 --> 16:41.560]  And there's not a whole lot that we can do to help at that point.
[16:41.560 --> 16:47.160]  He's going to have to get himself a good tax lawyer, IRS attorney to strike himself a deal
[16:47.160 --> 16:49.120]  with the IRS, okay.
[16:49.120 --> 16:52.120]  And I can talk some more about that on the other side, but I really want to make a big
[16:52.120 --> 16:53.120]  point about this.
[16:53.120 --> 16:56.600]  In fact, I'm going to have to make a PSA warning people about this program.
[16:56.600 --> 16:57.600]  We'll be right back.
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[19:20.920 --> 19:28.920]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, rule of law radio on the fifth day of October 2017.
[19:28.920 --> 19:35.920]  And a clarification so it's abundantly clear what we're talking about here.
[19:35.920 --> 19:44.920]  There's a lot of arguments out there saying that the IRS does not have jurisdiction over me because I don't work for the government.
[19:44.920 --> 20:04.920]  And the government hasn't paid me all of these funds. And then I go to the government and say that, you know, I have certain deductions from the tax that I would normally owe based on the funds you gave me.
[20:04.920 --> 20:09.920]  And then send them a notice of the deductions I got.
[20:09.920 --> 20:19.920]  And then the IRS says, well, okay, you got these deductions, but based on all of this, we overpaid you this amount.
[20:19.920 --> 20:28.920]  So you have to return that to us because you don't have enough deductions to account for all of it, so you have to return this to us.
[20:28.920 --> 20:34.920]  And there are legitimate arguments out there that say we don't work for the federal government, so we don't fall under.
[20:34.920 --> 20:40.920]  And you don't have jurisdiction over us because we don't fall under your rules.
[20:40.920 --> 20:45.920]  But what these guys are doing is they're mixing up jurisdiction.
[20:45.920 --> 20:58.920]  What they're doing is have people go to the court, invoke, attempt to invoke the jurisdiction of a tax court that would hear their complaints against the IRS.
[20:58.920 --> 21:05.920]  Then not give the tax court enough information to invoke the tax court's jurisdiction.
[21:05.920 --> 21:18.920]  And when the tax court says we don't have jurisdiction, then they improperly expand that claim to the IRS itself.
[21:18.920 --> 21:22.920]  No guys, don't work that way.
[21:22.920 --> 21:30.920]  You have to challenge the jurisdiction of the IRS, not the jurisdiction of the tax court, designed to hear your issues.
[21:30.920 --> 21:33.920]  So what they do is they just screw themselves.
[21:33.920 --> 21:49.920]  I'm wondering, I can't imagine an honest researcher, even one that's not as knowledgeable as he should be, making this kind of a basic error.
[21:49.920 --> 21:58.920]  Yeah, this is crazy. Now, before I totally go off on a tie rate against this White's Paris group, I do want to do a little bit more research.
[21:58.920 --> 22:10.920]  So I'm going to mildly retract for now because this woman just may not have followed their instructions properly or she just may not have understood what they were trying to tell her to do.
[22:10.920 --> 22:19.920]  But I don't like any of it because now this is like the second or third time that I've heard about somebody getting in a lot of trouble by using this program.
[22:19.920 --> 22:21.920]  Okay, that's all I know at this point.
[22:21.920 --> 22:32.920]  I mean, if these people are indeed teaching that you file these documents with the tax court and if you get yourself dismissed out, that that means victory.
[22:32.920 --> 22:40.920]  If they're actually teaching that, then yes, that is obviously totally, I mean, you can't be more wrong.
[22:40.920 --> 22:43.920]  And it's a scam, okay? It's a scam at the least.
[22:43.920 --> 22:55.920]  And it's federal shills at the worst trying to sucker people into these programs to get people thrown in jail and muddy the waters, like Randy was saying,
[22:55.920 --> 23:02.920]  to try to discredit people like us who are telling the truth and actually helping people with legitimate tools.
[23:02.920 --> 23:17.920]  So I haven't done a thorough investigation at this point, but I have heard enough to know that we need to warn our listeners to pay very close attention when they're getting themselves into programs like this.
[23:17.920 --> 23:20.920]  And if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
[23:20.920 --> 23:33.920]  And yes, you've got to make a distinction between, for example, the jurisdiction of the IRS or the authority of the IRS versus the jurisdiction of a court.
[23:33.920 --> 23:47.920]  I mean, how do you expect a court to rule in your favor, hear your case and rule in your favor against the IRS if you're not going to file the proper paperwork to invoke the jurisdiction of the court?
[23:47.920 --> 23:52.920]  The tax court is not the IRS. They're not one and the same.
[23:52.920 --> 23:59.920]  Okay, so you have to invoke the jurisdiction of the court in order to hear your case.
[23:59.920 --> 24:05.920]  And that doesn't mean that you're establishing a commercial nexus with the IRS.
[24:05.920 --> 24:09.920]  Okay, just it's the same thing that Harman Taylor teaches.
[24:09.920 --> 24:23.920]  If you're going to fight the IRS or any government agency or anything for that matter, you have to agree to participate in the court.
[24:23.920 --> 24:33.920]  You have to agree to participate in the game to the extent that you're allowing the court to have jurisdiction over the matter.
[24:33.920 --> 24:36.920]  I mean, otherwise, how are you supposed to get any help?
[24:36.920 --> 24:41.920]  You can't go to the court and say, help me, but no, I'm not going to let you help me.
[24:41.920 --> 24:45.920]  I don't agree to your jurisdiction. That makes no sense.
[24:45.920 --> 24:50.920]  Okay, you can't have it both ways.
[24:50.920 --> 24:57.920]  And we've talked about jurisdiction on here quite a bit recently, subject matter jurisdiction.
[24:57.920 --> 25:08.920]  And where we talked about a credit card case where the collection, the lawyers doing the collections filed a suit.
[25:08.920 --> 25:15.920]  But the statute required that they also file an accounting, but they didn't file the accounting.
[25:15.920 --> 25:30.920]  So we went and said, judge, you don't have subject matter jurisdiction to hear their claim because they didn't comply with the rules that allow them to invoke your jurisdiction.
[25:30.920 --> 25:31.920]  That's right.
[25:31.920 --> 25:35.920]  And that's exactly what these guys are telling them to do.
[25:35.920 --> 25:45.920]  They invoke the court, but then they don't give the court jurisdiction to rule on their issue.
[25:45.920 --> 25:47.920]  And they open themselves up to the jurisdiction.
[25:47.920 --> 25:50.920]  Okay, just to clarify, we think that's what these people are teaching.
[25:50.920 --> 25:53.920]  That was our understanding.
[25:53.920 --> 25:58.920]  Okay, so I have to, if I'm going to spend any more time on this, I have to make sure that's what these people are teaching.
[25:58.920 --> 26:05.920]  But I don't think this woman had any misunderstanding of what this program was instructing her to do.
[26:05.920 --> 26:17.920]  And now I'm getting a message, you know, now I get, I get word through a mutual friend, you know, someone else who called our show,
[26:17.920 --> 26:26.920]  and I don't quite remember the call, but it's kind of vague in my memory, another person who called talking about the same thing.
[26:26.920 --> 26:33.920]  And apparently we weren't, you and I warned him against this Randy and he proceeded anyway and now he's about to get thrown in jail.
[26:33.920 --> 26:43.920]  And so I can't send him to Harman Taylor because Harman Taylor's whole perspective is the defenses.
[26:43.920 --> 26:46.920]  I never, I have no contract with your company.
[26:46.920 --> 26:48.920]  I never made a commercial agreement with you.
[26:48.920 --> 26:50.920]  That is a legitimate defense.
[26:50.920 --> 26:55.920]  I mean, Randy, you mentioned something earlier about people that are saying, oh, well, I have no contract with the government.
[26:55.920 --> 26:57.920]  That's enough.
[26:57.920 --> 26:59.920]  Well, yes and no.
[26:59.920 --> 27:00.920]  Okay.
[27:00.920 --> 27:12.920]  Number one, you have to establish that you have no contract with their company and you have to establish that in court either by suing them or getting sued.
[27:12.920 --> 27:13.920]  Okay.
[27:13.920 --> 27:14.920]  Something of that nature.
[27:14.920 --> 27:16.920]  You can't just say, I have no contract with them.
[27:16.920 --> 27:21.920]  I get to go do what I want in my life now and ignore court summons and ignore this and that.
[27:21.920 --> 27:24.920]  No, it doesn't work that way either.
[27:24.920 --> 27:25.920]  Okay.
[27:25.920 --> 27:34.920]  You, you have to, you have to invoke the subject matter jurisdiction of the court in order to for the judge to preside over the case so that they can rule in your favor.
[27:34.920 --> 27:35.920]  All right.
[27:35.920 --> 27:37.920]  And so Harman is probably not going to be able to help this person.
[27:37.920 --> 27:48.920]  I'm not going to send him to Harman because I'm sure this person has fallen into dozens of pitfalls of commercial neck side.
[27:48.920 --> 27:52.920]  If that's the proper plural of the word nexus with the IRS.
[27:52.920 --> 27:55.920]  Okay, so that's probably not going to be a good defense.
[27:55.920 --> 28:07.920]  I can't send him to Joe Bannister's lawyer because in order for Joe Bannister's lawyer to help, he would have to, he would have to handle the case from the beginning, just like Harman.
[28:07.920 --> 28:09.920]  I certainly wouldn't send him to somebody like Becraft.
[28:09.920 --> 28:13.920]  I mean, isn't he the one that got Sherry Jackson thrown in prison?
[28:13.920 --> 28:25.920]  I mean, at this point, the only person I know to recommend to somebody who has gotten this deep in and screwed up this bad with a program like this is Dan Pila, a tax attorney.
[28:25.920 --> 28:35.920]  He does advertise on GCN network and his angle is to strike the best deal, to make the best deal with the IRS as possible.
[28:35.920 --> 28:45.920]  Okay, to keep you out of jail and to establish payment plans and things like this, to basically keep them from taking everything you got and throwing you in jail by making a deal.
[28:45.920 --> 28:56.920]  And that's kind of a last case resort, worst case scenario, but that's the only person that I know to send to in a situation like this.
[28:56.920 --> 29:11.920]  So I'm all hot on this issue because again, I get when I'm screen calls for Tom Kiley at the end of Tom Kiley show, somebody calls in wanting to ask about this program because they heard this woman talking about it on his show and our show.
[29:11.920 --> 29:14.920]  And so I got all lit up.
[29:14.920 --> 29:18.920]  I got all, I was like, I can't believe I'm hearing about this again.
[29:18.920 --> 29:33.920]  Sometimes we'll have to hear about this and then come to find out this program is being pushed on the power hour on GCN, which the power hour is not carried anymore on the FM in Austin anymore.
[29:33.920 --> 29:41.920]  Thankfully, but you know, but before I totally pass the program, I got to make sure that they're actually instructing people to do this and that they're not misunderstanding.
[29:41.920 --> 29:49.920]  I do know of at least two or three people right now that have gotten in serious trouble with the IRS using this program.
[29:49.920 --> 29:51.920]  So people, you've got to be careful.
[29:51.920 --> 30:01.920]  And if you call in asking us about something and we tell you not to do it, please take heed. We'll be right back.
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[33:28.920 --> 33:34.920]  Okay, folks, we are back. This is the Rule of Law, Randy Kelton, and I'm Deborah Stevens here.
[33:34.920 --> 33:40.920]  And it is Thursday, October 5th, 2017, in case we didn't say the date.
[33:40.920 --> 33:46.920]  So, we're about to go to your calls. Folks, if you'd like to call in 512-646-1984.
[33:46.920 --> 33:53.920]  And, yeah, just wanted to put some bookends on this. Please be careful about these programs out there, people.
[33:53.920 --> 34:09.920]  If you have any questions, if your spidey sense goes off, call in. We can talk about it, especially on the four-hour show. Just please be careful, because a lot of these programs are really their scam.
[34:09.920 --> 34:23.920]  They could be people that mean well, that just don't know what they're doing. They could be bona fide scamsters that are not necessarily government shields, could be the CIA program, for all we know.
[34:23.920 --> 34:47.920]  A design to take in would be liberty-minded folks and thrall them in jail, or just looking to get notches on their belt as a bureaucrat, could be a CIA program to muddy the waters, to discredit the whole liberty community.
[34:47.920 --> 34:58.920]  You never know. You never know if it's generic scamsterism, or how deep the program really goes, but no matter what, you don't want to be part of it.
[34:58.920 --> 35:06.920]  So, use your spidey sense. If your spidey sense goes off, call in. Got any questions? Call in. We'll talk about it. Hey, we'll have these people on the show.
[35:06.920 --> 35:19.920]  Invite them on. Let them tell their side of the story. People who run these programs. We'll hash it out in the air. We'll get to the bottom of it if they dare.
[35:19.920 --> 35:25.920]  Now, again, I'm not saying I know for a fact that these people are scamming. It could have been a misunderstanding.
[35:25.920 --> 35:38.920]  This caller, both of these callers may not have followed the program properly. Somehow I doubt it. We shall see. But the bottom line is, if some doesn't seem right, it's probably not.
[35:38.920 --> 35:53.920]  If it seems too good to be true, it probably is. And most of all, you've got to realize that there is a difference between jurisdiction of the court and jurisdiction and authority of a government agency.
[35:53.920 --> 36:06.920]  Just because you're agreeing to the jurisdiction of the court and invoking the jurisdiction of the court does not mean that you've just established a commercial nexus with the entire government as a whole.
[36:06.920 --> 36:21.920]  That's not how it works. And you have to invoke the jurisdiction of the court if you want remedy. You can't go to the court and say, I want remedy and then say, but I'm not going to agree to your jurisdiction.
[36:21.920 --> 36:36.920]  You want to play a game on the field in a soccer game or something, but you don't want to put on a uniform and get on the field. What are you saying? What do you want?
[36:36.920 --> 36:45.920]  You want to be on the field or not? Do you want to be part of the game or not? Do you want to win or not? I mean, you can't win the game if you're not going to play the game.
[36:45.920 --> 36:52.920]  It's just that simple. Go home and get beat up. I mean, what? I get it.
[36:52.920 --> 36:59.920]  We don't have an agenda. As far as I know, there are no magic bullets.
[36:59.920 --> 37:00.920]  Not really.
[37:00.920 --> 37:11.920]  If there was a magic bullet, I'd certainly like to find it and I'm certainly open to it. And one of the main things that keeps coming up is the common law.
[37:11.920 --> 37:16.920]  And I would like for the common law to be effective and useful.
[37:16.920 --> 37:22.920]  And I have all these people claiming the common law and I say, okay, come on, come on, give me something I can use.
[37:22.920 --> 37:29.920]  I am a creature of statute. Give me some chapter and verse I can use to invoke the common law.
[37:29.920 --> 37:42.920]  And I've had a few people tell me how ignorant I was and had a number of people get all upset at me, but I've never had anyone give me something I can use.
[37:42.920 --> 37:48.920]  So we don't have an agenda here. We only have the code.
[37:48.920 --> 37:59.920]  And Ralph Winterwood quite a while ago came on the show and he was saying how the law doesn't apply, how the statutes don't apply, how the Constitution doesn't apply.
[37:59.920 --> 38:04.920]  And I said, well, what applies, Ralph? Oh, you've got to go to the National Register. I said, well, that's nice, Ralph.
[38:04.920 --> 38:11.920]  The National Register is about 65,000 pages. You want to be a little more specific?
[38:11.920 --> 38:22.920]  Well, he wouldn't get specific. So he's telling everybody that the statutes don't apply and technically he's correct.
[38:22.920 --> 38:38.920]  But the statutes can be used because the statutes are merely a publication of a group of public laws that reference the same subject
[38:38.920 --> 38:46.920]  to the degree that the statute accurately reflects the public law that it applies.
[38:46.920 --> 38:54.920]  But in any case, this guy out there with the pistol on his hip, why, he's going to act like it applies.
[38:54.920 --> 39:00.920]  And when they throw you in jail, it's going to feel like a jail that applies.
[39:00.920 --> 39:11.920]  So let's deal with the real world and I appreciate that Ralph is a serious researcher.
[39:11.920 --> 39:29.920]  But sometimes people who are serious and sophisticated in what they're saying doesn't understand how to communicate that to people who are less sophisticated in these finally focused areas
[39:29.920 --> 39:32.920]  in a way that people can use them effectively.
[39:32.920 --> 39:38.920]  And worst case scenario, you've got people that are muddying the waters on purpose just to run a scam, okay?
[39:38.920 --> 39:47.920]  And I do just want to keep, you know, as a final point, going back to this issue of there's a difference between jurisdiction of the court
[39:47.920 --> 39:50.920]  and jurisdiction of a government agency that you are at odds with.
[39:50.920 --> 39:59.920]  And you must invoke the jurisdiction of the court if you want to win against the agency that you are at odds with.
[39:59.920 --> 40:08.920]  And so just for a simple example, and I'm not going to say how you support this argument, but the Harmon Taylor argument would be,
[40:08.920 --> 40:19.920]  or the Harmon Taylor approach would be, basically I agree to the subject matter jurisdiction of this court for the purpose of presiding over this case.
[40:19.920 --> 40:30.920]  However, I do not agree that I have ever made any commercial nexus at all with X agency, whether it's IRS or whatever, whoever may be after you, okay?
[40:30.920 --> 40:37.920]  And so now it's up to you to prove that you never had any commercial nexus with them.
[40:37.920 --> 40:40.920]  And it's up to the other side to prove that you did, okay?
[40:40.920 --> 40:45.920]  And so how that is done, I'm not going to answer those questions.
[40:45.920 --> 40:56.920]  It's a very complex topic. Harmon would take him years to explain all that on the air, and he's not going to do that anyway because he charges for his services, okay?
[40:56.920 --> 41:02.920]  At some point people have to pay their own bills and, you know, we can't just give everything away for free.
[41:02.920 --> 41:10.920]  But I'm just trying to give an example that it's completely ludicrous to go into the court and say, I don't agree to your jurisdiction.
[41:10.920 --> 41:15.920]  No, I've never heard of anything so preposterous in my life.
[41:15.920 --> 41:28.920]  And so this woman who calls in and trying to act like the IRS and the tax court are the same entity and trying to tell us that the IRS no longer has jurisdiction over her because the tax court said so.
[41:28.920 --> 41:31.920]  No, the tax court never said any such thing.
[41:31.920 --> 41:40.920]  The tax court said that the tax court subject matter jurisdiction was not properly invoked and therefore they could not hear the case.
[41:40.920 --> 41:44.920]  It doesn't mean the IRS doesn't have anything on her anymore.
[41:44.920 --> 41:47.920]  It doesn't mean the IRS doesn't have jurisdiction over her.
[41:47.920 --> 42:00.920]  I mean, anyway, just that simple bottom line, if you're the plaintiff, it is your responsibility to fulfill all the requirements to invoke the subject matter jurisdiction of the court so that the court can give you the remedy you're looking for.
[42:00.920 --> 42:05.920]  And if you're not willing to do that, then don't file the case.
[42:05.920 --> 42:22.920]  And just because you follow the steps to invoke the subject matter jurisdiction of the court, whether it be an administrative court or tax court or district court, that doesn't mean that you've just made a commercial agreement or that you've somehow waived all of your rights.
[42:22.920 --> 42:24.920]  It doesn't mean any of that.
[42:24.920 --> 42:27.920]  It doesn't mean that you've just made an agreement with the IRS.
[42:27.920 --> 42:28.920]  It doesn't mean that.
[42:28.920 --> 42:33.920]  It means that you agree that the court is going to be the referee over the situation.
[42:33.920 --> 42:34.920]  That's all it means.
[42:34.920 --> 42:37.920]  So is that clear, Randy?
[42:37.920 --> 42:38.920]  Yes.
[42:38.920 --> 42:45.920]  We're a good place to come because we don't believe in magic tricks.
[42:45.920 --> 42:48.920]  We don't believe in silver bullets.
[42:48.920 --> 42:53.920]  When we don't have a dog in this heart, we're not trying to sell you anything.
[42:53.920 --> 43:00.920]  So we're going to give you our best opinion on how we think things are going to work.
[43:00.920 --> 43:11.920]  And after 10 years of doing this, and those of you who listen know that I kind of get into the courts pretty serious myself, we've learned some things that work and things that don't.
[43:11.920 --> 43:18.920]  And the one thing I've never, ever found was a silver bullet.
[43:18.920 --> 43:22.920]  There may be one out there, but I haven't found it.
[43:22.920 --> 43:31.920]  Hard work, careful reasoning, and close attention to a very sophisticated body of law.
[43:31.920 --> 43:38.920]  If you learn the law surrounding your particular issue, then you can take it too often.
[43:38.920 --> 43:40.920]  But they're not stupid.
[43:40.920 --> 43:42.920]  They're not inexperienced.
[43:42.920 --> 43:44.920]  It's not going to be easy.
[43:44.920 --> 43:46.920]  All right, look, we're coming up to break now.
[43:46.920 --> 43:49.920]  We've got Jeff from Mississippi and Scott from Texas.
[43:49.920 --> 43:52.920]  And we'll start taking your calls on the other side.
[43:52.920 --> 43:55.920]  We'd like to call in 512-646-1984.
[43:55.920 --> 43:57.920]  We'll be right back.
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[46:46.920 --> 46:52.920]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, rule of law radio on the 5th of October 2017.
[46:52.920 --> 46:55.920]  And we're going to Scott in Texas. Hello, Scott.
[46:55.920 --> 46:59.920]  What do you have for us today?
[46:59.920 --> 47:07.920]  Well, I had to go to court here in Garland for a...
[47:07.920 --> 47:15.920]  They called it a first appearance, and basically, you just went in there and...
[47:15.920 --> 47:19.920]  Hold on, hold on. First appearance. Let's take a step back.
[47:19.920 --> 47:25.920]  Is this the appearance that you agreed to make when you signed the ticket?
[47:25.920 --> 47:31.920]  Uh, no, I didn't really agree to anything, but...
[47:31.920 --> 47:33.920]  No, no, wait a minute. Hold on, hold on.
[47:33.920 --> 47:41.920]  When you sign the ticket, the policeman releases you on your own recognizance on a promise to appear.
[47:41.920 --> 47:47.920]  Had you already ever appeared at the court before?
[47:47.920 --> 47:49.920]  No.
[47:49.920 --> 47:57.920]  Okay, then the reason I'm saying this is we're going to go to what is an arraignment.
[47:57.920 --> 48:03.920]  Once you sign that ticket and you agree to appear before a magistrate,
[48:03.920 --> 48:06.920]  then you must appear before a magistrate.
[48:06.920 --> 48:14.920]  If you're called to court to appear and talk to a prosecutor,
[48:14.920 --> 48:18.920]  that's a whole other animal, so that's us trying to make that distinction.
[48:18.920 --> 48:22.920]  So this is your... You get a ticket, you promise to appear before a magistrate,
[48:22.920 --> 48:26.920]  and you go down there, and what happened?
[48:26.920 --> 48:32.920]  Well, naturally, I had to wait to be very last, and he cleared the courtroom out,
[48:32.920 --> 48:37.920]  and then he went ahead and called court into order and said,
[48:37.920 --> 48:44.920]  this is the court record, I'm here, the prosecutor's here, and the defendant's here,
[48:44.920 --> 48:49.920]  and we are here for the first appearance, and how do you plead?
[48:49.920 --> 48:53.920]  And I told him, I said, I'm here at Arms Wing to the court,
[48:53.920 --> 49:00.920]  and in special appearance, and I cannot consciously enter a plea or make a plea,
[49:00.920 --> 49:03.920]  and he said he would enter a plea for me.
[49:03.920 --> 49:08.920]  So I was like, okay, and they're going to do what they're going to do,
[49:08.920 --> 49:13.920]  and then he basically said it for a motion hearing,
[49:13.920 --> 49:20.920]  and I had already filed a ton of documents because I got it off the trafficticket.website
[49:20.920 --> 49:25.920]  and stuck in about a hundred pages of those documents,
[49:25.920 --> 49:29.920]  and he looked down and said, well, we're going to set this up for a motion hearing.
[49:29.920 --> 49:33.920]  I see you've already submitted some motions here,
[49:33.920 --> 49:37.920]  and I kind of grin and tried not to grin too much,
[49:37.920 --> 49:39.920]  and I was like, yes, sir.
[49:39.920 --> 49:46.920]  And so he said, okay, then we'll be back in a couple of weeks
[49:46.920 --> 49:49.920]  and go in on the motions hearing,
[49:49.920 --> 49:53.920]  and so that's basically where that's at right now,
[49:53.920 --> 50:02.920]  and so I was busy kind of looking up some of the law as it goes to 28.01 on the pre-trial
[50:02.920 --> 50:05.920]  and the reasons that they can call you to court,
[50:05.920 --> 50:11.920]  and at first appearance, this is not one of those reasons.
[50:11.920 --> 50:13.920]  Hold on, hold on.
[50:13.920 --> 50:24.920]  Actually, that first appearance was an appearance that you agreed to make before a magistrate,
[50:24.920 --> 50:30.920]  so the court could convene the hearing,
[50:30.920 --> 50:36.920]  but he had a duty under Chapter 16, Texas Code of Criminal Procedure,
[50:36.920 --> 50:41.920]  and the first thing he was to do is to give you opportunity and a statement if you wanted to,
[50:41.920 --> 50:45.920]  and to advise you of your rights, your right to a lawyer,
[50:45.920 --> 50:50.920]  give you opportunity to secure counsel if you wanted to,
[50:50.920 --> 50:56.920]  and then give you opportunity to make a statement to the court before anything is presented.
[50:56.920 --> 51:01.920]  That's called an examining trial.
[51:01.920 --> 51:06.920]  So did he do all those things?
[51:06.920 --> 51:11.920]  Not that I can recall.
[51:11.920 --> 51:25.920]  He just told me you could go for like a deferred adjudication type thing on one of the tickets,
[51:25.920 --> 51:31.920]  and the rest of it, it was that,
[51:31.920 --> 51:41.920]  and so basically he just, I don't recall him asking if I wanted to retain counsel or anything like that.
[51:41.920 --> 51:50.920]  Okay, to your knowledge, did he enter an order stating whether probable cause was found,
[51:50.920 --> 51:57.920]  or whether the defendant was released at his liberty,
[51:57.920 --> 52:02.920]  bound to the court for on bail,
[52:02.920 --> 52:07.920]  released on bail, or remanded to the jail,
[52:07.920 --> 52:13.920]  sealed that in a document, cause his name to be written across the seal of the document forwarded to clerk the court of jurisdiction.
[52:13.920 --> 52:16.920]  Do you do those things to your knowledge?
[52:16.920 --> 52:19.920]  Not to my knowledge.
[52:19.920 --> 52:22.920]  Well, the way I read the code,
[52:22.920 --> 52:27.920]  he committed a social oppression and that he failed to perform, and he was required to perform,
[52:27.920 --> 52:37.920]  and in the process, denied you the full free access to enjoyment right and that right being a right to due process.
[52:37.920 --> 52:49.920]  The due process right that was denied was the statutory requirement that the magistrate hold an examining trial.
[52:49.920 --> 52:55.920]  That should get, class A, misdemeanor, facial oppression against the judge,
[52:55.920 --> 52:59.920]  conspiracy to commit against the prosecutor,
[52:59.920 --> 53:05.920]  bar grievance against the prosecutor, did a seconda complaint against the judge,
[53:05.920 --> 53:08.920]  just for yucks.
[53:08.920 --> 53:09.920]  Oh.
[53:09.920 --> 53:16.920]  Okay, Scott and I talked about this earlier, and Scott, you said they were real nice to you.
[53:16.920 --> 53:24.920]  Yes, they were extremely nice, and even at the very end after, you know, he said,
[53:24.920 --> 53:32.920]  okay, we're going to go ahead and set this up for, you know, your motions hearing, and it was basically over with.
[53:32.920 --> 53:35.920]  Well, nobody was talking the whole time.
[53:35.920 --> 53:37.920]  It was kind of eerily quiet.
[53:37.920 --> 53:43.920]  So when I got ready to leave, I even walked out, I said, you know, you are, but I do kind of like you.
[53:43.920 --> 53:46.920]  And he goes, what's that? I said, I do kind of like you.
[53:46.920 --> 53:55.920]  And then I looked over at the prosecutor, and I said, you know, you're really the nicest prosecutor I've ran across a long time, something to that effect.
[53:55.920 --> 54:00.920]  And so the judge, he was like, well, you might want to wait until after the trial.
[54:00.920 --> 54:06.920]  I said, oh, no, it don't matter, you know, no matter the outcome, you know, I still, that's what I kind of think about you.
[54:06.920 --> 54:14.920]  And then when I was walking past the prosecutor, he was smiling and waving and just being real super friendly and all that.
[54:14.920 --> 54:18.920]  And so it was kind of really like a little bit of a mind game.
[54:18.920 --> 54:24.920]  I mean, I do kind of like them, but, you know, I mean, when you're in court, you're the belligerent litigant.
[54:24.920 --> 54:26.920]  And so you just have to go all out.
[54:26.920 --> 54:31.920]  But yeah, they are, they were really super nice to me.
[54:31.920 --> 54:42.920]  And now is the perfect time to sting them because they certainly won't see it coming.
[54:42.920 --> 54:45.920]  And they're going to say, I thought he said we were nice.
[54:45.920 --> 54:49.920]  Yeah, but nice don't really have anything to do with it.
[54:49.920 --> 54:51.920]  Yeah.
[54:51.920 --> 55:00.920]  I bet if you were nice to the police officer, he'd write you a ticket anyway.
[55:00.920 --> 55:12.920]  And he was super nice after, you know, I handed him a letter that asked him to sign, to read and sign it.
[55:12.920 --> 55:18.920]  And half of it was basically stating about, you know, the right to liberty and the right to travel.
[55:18.920 --> 55:26.920]  And the second half specifically cited Texas statutes and codes on duties of the officer.
[55:26.920 --> 55:32.920]  And they don't have any authority to enforce.
[55:32.920 --> 55:37.920]  And after he kind of glanced at that and read it for a little bit, the first part, he probably just get passed.
[55:37.920 --> 55:47.920]  But when he started reading the second part, which basically is all the, all the ball that we've been pulling out and using in all these motions and stuff.
[55:47.920 --> 55:51.920]  When he came back, he was extremely nice.
[55:51.920 --> 55:55.920]  And he still wrote me a ticket.
[55:55.920 --> 56:00.920]  So, you'll be extremely nice while you're bar-grieving him.
[56:00.920 --> 56:05.920]  And find judicial conduct complaints and criminal complaints.
[56:05.920 --> 56:07.920]  It's a civil.
[56:07.920 --> 56:11.920]  We all need to be civil.
[56:11.920 --> 56:13.920]  Well, I'll be extremely civil.
[56:13.920 --> 56:20.920]  You know, it was kind of ironic too, because he was, it looked like he got done with the last person.
[56:20.920 --> 56:25.920]  And then he said, oh, courts and recess for five minutes, and he took off.
[56:25.920 --> 56:32.920]  Maybe he went to the bathroom and then came back because he thought this might be kind of a rough go or something.
[56:32.920 --> 56:38.920]  And I kind of thought he was trying to work himself up into a little bit of frenzy to get kind of mad stuff.
[56:38.920 --> 56:40.920]  So, I immediately diffused it.
[56:40.920 --> 56:45.920]  As soon as I walked up, he said, good afternoon, Mr. Rooster.
[56:45.920 --> 56:50.920]  I said, hello, sir, how are you doing today?
[56:50.920 --> 56:53.920]  He goes, well, fine, thanks for asking.
[56:53.920 --> 56:57.920]  So, I immediately just got super nice about everything.
[56:57.920 --> 57:05.920]  So, I kind of diffused everything because it was really kind of strange, you know, being in there by myself.
[57:05.920 --> 57:15.920]  They had a couple of spectators in there watching because I'd already filed two lawsuits on the cop and the chief of police.
[57:15.920 --> 57:20.920]  And the mayor already has a tort letter all for all this stuff.
[57:20.920 --> 57:26.920]  And so they knew immediately this was not going to be their normal rodeo.
[57:26.920 --> 57:28.920]  Let's make a deal.
[57:28.920 --> 57:33.920]  And how soon you're going to be able to pay the fine.
[57:33.920 --> 57:38.920]  They went straight into, they knew this was going to be a fight.
[57:38.920 --> 57:47.920]  And the two guys sitting in the back, I don't know who they were, but they certainly seem to have a whole lot of interest in it.
[57:47.920 --> 57:55.920]  Good chance they were the civil lawyers, but this is exactly how we want to deal with them.
[57:55.920 --> 58:03.920]  Because you got to know those guys are sitting there thinking, what have we got hold of here?
[58:03.920 --> 58:08.920]  This guy's not doing anything like we expect him to be.
[58:08.920 --> 58:12.920]  It comes in here, he's pleasant, he's civil.
[58:12.920 --> 58:16.920]  How are we going to raise an issue against this guy?
[58:16.920 --> 58:22.920]  And once he got up his sleeve that he's not telling us.
[58:22.920 --> 58:26.920]  This is why I say to people, never give them any legal advice.
[58:26.920 --> 58:29.920]  You don't want them to have a clue where you're coming from.
[58:29.920 --> 58:36.920]  So I have no doubt that when you walked out they were all standing there scratching their heads wondering what just happened.
[58:36.920 --> 58:42.920]  On about to go to break Randy Kelton, real of like Randy Kelton, they received his real of love radio.
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[01:02:51.920 --> 01:03:20.920]  This was Brook Lodi with your lowdown for September 13, 2017.
[01:03:21.920 --> 01:03:43.920]  Okay, we are back.
[01:03:43.920 --> 01:03:53.920]  Thank you for having me.
[01:03:53.920 --> 01:04:02.920]  Well, in the morning, it looks like I got a letter two days ago that the city of Mesquite had went ahead
[01:04:02.920 --> 01:04:11.920]  and put a warrant out for my arrest again for me not paying that ticket that I've been going back and forth with them.
[01:04:11.920 --> 01:04:16.920]  In the morning, I got to go to their little warrant hearing again,
[01:04:16.920 --> 01:04:18.920]  but the judge didn't sign it on this time.
[01:04:18.920 --> 01:04:25.920]  It looks like he just had the deputy clerk sign it because he already has a...
[01:04:25.920 --> 01:04:31.920]  He's ordered to court on a case that I filed against him.
[01:04:31.920 --> 01:04:38.920]  So that's going to be kind of interesting to go in there and have to meet with him again
[01:04:38.920 --> 01:04:48.920]  because we're going to be going to court next year over him tampering with a government record in court.
[01:04:48.920 --> 01:04:56.920]  So that's about what I got going on there.
[01:04:56.920 --> 01:05:00.920]  That should be interesting.
[01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:05.920]  Technically, the judge should recuse himself.
[01:05:05.920 --> 01:05:14.920]  You can't disqualify him because if you could disqualify a judge simply because you sued him,
[01:05:14.920 --> 01:05:19.920]  then every criminal defendant would just simply sue the judge.
[01:05:19.920 --> 01:05:23.920]  If they didn't like the judge, they'd just sue him and get him thrown out.
[01:05:23.920 --> 01:05:36.920]  But since the judge has been sued by you for improper behavior, it would be appropriate for him to recuse himself.
[01:05:36.920 --> 01:05:45.920]  But in your case, with your history and your accumulating reputation,
[01:05:45.920 --> 01:05:54.920]  it's better that the judge have to sit there and rule because now he's expecting you to sue him again.
[01:05:54.920 --> 01:05:57.920]  You've essentially poisoned his will.
[01:05:57.920 --> 01:06:01.920]  So that should be an interesting hearing.
[01:06:01.920 --> 01:06:05.920]  Yeah, I know what they're going to say.
[01:06:05.920 --> 01:06:08.920]  Basically, the first time they'll put you on the payment plan.
[01:06:08.920 --> 01:06:13.920]  The second time they want to put you on a community service.
[01:06:13.920 --> 01:06:17.920]  And then if you don't follow through with all that, then they want to put you in jail.
[01:06:17.920 --> 01:06:22.920]  So it looks like this time I'll have to go do some community service.
[01:06:22.920 --> 01:06:24.920]  Wait a minute.
[01:06:24.920 --> 01:06:29.920]  Have you filed a challenge to subject meta jurisdiction in this case?
[01:06:29.920 --> 01:06:33.920]  Oh yeah, and he denied it.
[01:06:33.920 --> 01:06:37.920]  Did you appeal?
[01:06:37.920 --> 01:06:39.920]  Did you not appeal this case?
[01:06:39.920 --> 01:06:45.920]  Yeah, I appealed it. He got denied.
[01:06:45.920 --> 01:06:51.920]  You should sue the judge personally for this case.
[01:06:51.920 --> 01:06:57.920]  Well, the only time you can sue a judge is when he doesn't have subject meta jurisdiction.
[01:06:57.920 --> 01:07:03.920]  He can't deny the suit.
[01:07:03.920 --> 01:07:06.920]  Well, I've got plenty I could sue on that.
[01:07:06.920 --> 01:07:09.920]  So much stuff.
[01:07:09.920 --> 01:07:14.920]  You've got to make up a suit and file it on every one of them.
[01:07:14.920 --> 01:07:18.920]  Oh, well, yeah, that's going to be, that should come in.
[01:07:18.920 --> 01:07:20.920]  I mean, there's so much stuff.
[01:07:20.920 --> 01:07:28.920]  The problem is when I go to file and I go, especially if you do a federal suit, you know,
[01:07:28.920 --> 01:07:34.920]  they'll grant you the informal poppers and all that stuff until it goes up to the FIS circuit.
[01:07:34.920 --> 01:07:42.920]  And the district courts want to withdraw your informal poppers saying that, you know,
[01:07:42.920 --> 01:07:48.920]  it was filed in bad faith and they withdraw your IFP.
[01:07:48.920 --> 01:07:52.920]  And so that was a bunch of hope that I sent you today.
[01:07:52.920 --> 01:07:59.920]  Okay, I need to get Ken on for this issue, but that's not something they could do.
[01:07:59.920 --> 01:08:07.920]  It's petition to have you declarating of vexatious litigants.
[01:08:07.920 --> 01:08:09.920]  Right.
[01:08:09.920 --> 01:08:26.920]  But to withdraw your indigency status because you exercise your rights, that goes to due process and retaliation.
[01:08:26.920 --> 01:08:28.920]  Yeah, it's pretty scary.
[01:08:28.920 --> 01:08:32.920]  I mean, because they want to deny you, as soon as the case starts getting legs,
[01:08:32.920 --> 01:08:39.920]  they want to chop it out, chop the legs out from underneath it because they see it's just kind of going down the road here
[01:08:39.920 --> 01:08:45.920]  and they don't like where it's going.
[01:08:45.920 --> 01:08:51.920]  Well, if I look at suing the judge, the original judge, hard to get at the FIS circuit
[01:08:51.920 --> 01:08:55.920]  or the higher court federal judges, it's really hard to get to them.
[01:08:55.920 --> 01:09:04.920]  But the lower court judges, especially these JPs and municipal court judges, they're cannon fodder.
[01:09:04.920 --> 01:09:10.920]  And one civil lawsuit because it's all the same issue.
[01:09:10.920 --> 01:09:16.920]  The policeman never had jurisdiction to enforce the code in the first instance.
[01:09:16.920 --> 01:09:26.920]  Therefore, he can't invoke the subject matter jurisdiction of anybody and every one of them would be the same suit.
[01:09:26.920 --> 01:09:32.920]  Well, that's just more paperwork to get.
[01:09:32.920 --> 01:09:39.920]  I mean, it wouldn't, as soon as I can get the master document wrote, the rest is a copy and paste after that.
[01:09:39.920 --> 01:09:49.920]  Give me some basic master documents and I will lay them into TrafficTicket.Website
[01:09:49.920 --> 01:09:56.920]  and then we can start making them available through TrafficTicket.Website.
[01:09:56.920 --> 01:10:01.920]  So all people have to do, you know, this will be, we make this part of the package.
[01:10:01.920 --> 01:10:03.920]  We have the front end package.
[01:10:03.920 --> 01:10:11.920]  We'll add some back end packages so that we get more people filing suit against these guys.
[01:10:11.920 --> 01:10:16.920]  The judges are going to go berserk.
[01:10:16.920 --> 01:10:21.920]  Oh, yeah. Well, I've already sent you some, so you already have a few of them already,
[01:10:21.920 --> 01:10:27.920]  but now just go back and start working on, I guess, one for the subject matter jurisdiction
[01:10:27.920 --> 01:10:30.920]  because they all get that stuff and they all deny it.
[01:10:30.920 --> 01:10:34.920]  So they all run the same play.
[01:10:34.920 --> 01:10:41.920]  Exactly. So we should run the same suit against them.
[01:10:41.920 --> 01:10:50.920]  Their problem is when loser draw, it's when you sue that judge, it stings in big time.
[01:10:50.920 --> 01:11:00.920]  Even if they throw it out and when they throw it out, we'll develop an appeal for them to throw it out the suit.
[01:11:00.920 --> 01:11:10.920]  And the advantage we have is we're using this site and making these documents available to a bunch of people.
[01:11:10.920 --> 01:11:20.920]  So we will get just about every argument they can come up with and we'll have them in the system.
[01:11:20.920 --> 01:11:33.920]  And each time we get a new argument, we go into our document documentation and write in arguments to thwart whatever they're throwing at us.
[01:11:33.920 --> 01:11:38.920]  So for the lawyers, it gets more and more sophisticated.
[01:11:38.920 --> 01:11:45.920]  Every time they throw a new curve, we adjust that curve and go right back at them.
[01:11:45.920 --> 01:11:53.920]  We will wind up getting all of their insurance policies cancelled.
[01:11:53.920 --> 01:12:09.920]  Well, that's all that I got going on for right now. It's just a bunch of stuff and seems to be a little bit overwhelming at times, but that's just a matter of don't give up.
[01:12:09.920 --> 01:12:19.920]  Well, hang in there and I'm back in Texas now for a couple of weeks and my wife's going to get her throat cut.
[01:12:19.920 --> 01:12:24.920]  Now that sounds insensitive for me to say about my wife.
[01:12:24.920 --> 01:12:36.920]  She's getting some bone spurs taken off her neck, but that's exactly what she told me about her sister when she was getting it done, so I get to say it about her.
[01:12:36.920 --> 01:12:38.920]  But she never finds me as funny as I do.
[01:12:38.920 --> 01:12:43.920]  Oh, I won't do a show tomorrow night because I'll be in the hospital with my wife.
[01:12:43.920 --> 01:12:52.920]  And so we'll have to run an archive tomorrow. Now apologize for that, but it's kind of a medical thing.
[01:12:52.920 --> 01:12:54.920]  Okay, thank you, Scott.
[01:12:54.920 --> 01:13:01.920]  And now we're going to go to Jeff in Mississippi. Hello, Jeff.
[01:13:01.920 --> 01:13:04.920]  Hey, Randy. Thanks for having me on.
[01:13:04.920 --> 01:13:13.920]  I'm glad to have you on and I met Jeff in Jackson, Tennessee, and I'm getting some documentation for him.
[01:13:13.920 --> 01:13:25.920]  And what we're going to do is we're going to file a cert with the Mississippi Supreme in his case.
[01:13:25.920 --> 01:13:32.920]  You want to kind of bring this up to date on where you're at, Jeff?
[01:13:32.920 --> 01:13:39.920]  Kind of bushwhacked you there. What did you call it for before I get to this other stuff?
[01:13:39.920 --> 01:13:45.920]  Actually, I was going to comment on what you and Deborah were talking about before.
[01:13:45.920 --> 01:13:47.920]  But we can go ahead and...
[01:13:47.920 --> 01:13:54.920]  No, no, Deborah's still in the background there. Let's go to that part.
[01:13:54.920 --> 01:14:07.920]  Okay. Well, for one thing, I got a really nice letter from a fellow named Walt up north. And in his letter, he put down the...
[01:14:07.920 --> 01:14:13.920]  You know, we have rights and common law and God is supreme and stuff.
[01:14:13.920 --> 01:14:18.920]  But I agree with all that. And I think that falls right in with our topic.
[01:14:18.920 --> 01:14:31.920]  I went into the court and basically said a bunch of that stuff. And even though I agree with a lot of it, it didn't do me any good with the judge.
[01:14:31.920 --> 01:14:40.920]  Let me make a comment about that. Yeah, God may be great. He may have created everything.
[01:14:40.920 --> 01:14:49.920]  But when it comes to Caesar, he didn't take responsibility for that.
[01:14:49.920 --> 01:14:56.920]  He said, render unto Caesar. That's your business. That's for you to take care of.
[01:14:56.920 --> 01:15:03.920]  Don't ask God to handle this for you. And don't blame it on him.
[01:15:03.920 --> 01:15:11.920]  It's people's stuff and he left that for us to deal with. So leave him out of it.
[01:15:11.920 --> 01:15:19.920]  Well, I suspect if he talked to you directly, he would say, I told you, your business, don't ask me to fix that for you.
[01:15:19.920 --> 01:15:35.920]  And when you get to court, it's about law that human beings have set up to give the kind of justice that God would be happy with.
[01:15:35.920 --> 01:15:41.920]  But God didn't. That's not part of God's contract with us. He left that to us.
[01:15:41.920 --> 01:15:45.920]  That's my story and that's all I'm going to say about it. Go ahead, Jeff.
[01:15:45.920 --> 01:15:58.920]  No, I completely agree with Walt. God is supreme and I did walk in and argued, well, number one, I reserve my rights. They didn't care.
[01:15:58.920 --> 01:16:10.920]  I argued UCC 1-308. They didn't care. I argued the lack of jurisdiction. You have not proven jurisdiction. They didn't care.
[01:16:10.920 --> 01:16:19.920]  I got in with the group for a little while. I was listening to their show that believed that the judge...
[01:16:19.920 --> 01:16:29.920]  Wait a minute. Are you telling me that you listened to another show and you didn't tell us about it?
[01:16:29.920 --> 01:16:45.920]  Exactly. No. But it was a pretty interesting group of people. They were saying that the judge is a black priest. And I will continue that on the other side of the break.
[01:16:45.920 --> 01:16:59.920]  Okay. I'm glad you did bring that group to us. Hang on. Randy Kelp and Deborah Steeves rule of the radio. Call it number 512-646-1984. We'll be right back.
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[01:19:30.920 --> 01:19:45.920]  Hang on to me with that same old trick again. I was blindsided, but now I can see your back. You put the fear in my pockets, took all my money from my head.
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[01:20:03.920 --> 01:20:16.920]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Denver Stevens, Roodleville Radio, and we're talking to Jeff in Mississippi. And Jeff, before I forget about it, make sure you send me an e-mail. I need some more documents.
[01:20:16.920 --> 01:20:20.920]  Oh, okay. Absolutely.
[01:20:20.920 --> 01:20:29.920]  Okay, we were talking about guys who called judges Black Robed Priests.
[01:20:29.920 --> 01:20:41.920]  The Black Priest group. Now, it sounds like I'm making fun of them, but this is actually one of the most fascinating stories that has happened during my trial.
[01:20:41.920 --> 01:21:02.920]  So, the Black Priest is that the judge gets up and he walks out of the courtroom right during trial. He just gets up and walks out, and then he comes back in. That first time is he changes the jurisdiction to maritime jurisdiction, admiralty.
[01:21:02.920 --> 01:21:22.920]  The second time he gets up and walks out, now he comes back as a Black Priest. So, what happened is he gets up and walks out on me the first time, and when he walks in, I say, Objection, you just changed this jurisdiction to admiralty.
[01:21:22.920 --> 01:21:29.920]  And I went on to object, and of course, he looked at me like I was crazy, but that's fine.
[01:21:29.920 --> 01:21:41.920]  Well, you know, in a trial, trials are long, and they take recesses every time you turn around. It seems like every 10 minutes, they all have to recess to go to the bathroom or to get paperwork or something.
[01:21:41.920 --> 01:21:54.920]  Well, after I accused him of changing it to admiralty jurisdiction, he turns around and calls for another recess about an hour later or so, and usually everybody leaves.
[01:21:54.920 --> 01:22:04.920]  Everybody, you know, goes out and gets a donut and stuff like that, and they come back. We left, and we came back, and the judge was still sitting there.
[01:22:04.920 --> 01:22:16.920]  And he had opened up his rear doors, I guess, that were leading out into his chamber. The doors that he walks through into the courtroom, he opened them up. It looked like to get some air.
[01:22:16.920 --> 01:22:24.920]  And I even said, Judge, you didn't want to go get a drink of water, and he just kind of looked down and refused to acknowledge me.
[01:22:24.920 --> 01:22:30.920]  So there may be a little bit of truth to that. I don't know. I just find that really fascinating.
[01:22:30.920 --> 01:22:48.920]  But to go on, I objected, I declined their offer. I accused the prosecutor of violating Title 18, 1001, and 1918, you know, false statements and false documentation.
[01:22:48.920 --> 01:23:03.920]  I accused him of perjury. And finally, I accused him or objected to lack of jurisdiction. You have not proven the jurisdiction. And I stopped the trial, and he had me carted off.
[01:23:03.920 --> 01:23:12.920]  And he had me arrested for what's it called when you disrupt the contempt of court.
[01:23:12.920 --> 01:23:19.920]  What was the nature of the contempt? Civil or criminal?
[01:23:19.920 --> 01:23:22.920]  Well, I was in a criminal case.
[01:23:22.920 --> 01:23:30.920]  No, but the contempt is... Why did he charge you with contempt?
[01:23:30.920 --> 01:23:47.920]  Well, I kept jumping up and stopping the trial, because I said, you don't have any jurisdiction. This court is shut down right now. And he would say, Mr. Hill, if you say that one more time, because I said it like 5 or 10 times, you say that one more time, I'm going to have you arrested.
[01:23:47.920 --> 01:23:56.920]  I jumped up. Objection, lack of jurisdiction. You have to shut this down now. And of course, the bailiff came over, grabbed me with a handcuffs and took me away.
[01:23:56.920 --> 01:24:02.920]  And I screamed out as I got let out of the courtroom, you have no judicial authority.
[01:24:02.920 --> 01:24:10.920]  So a lot of this patriot stuff I have on transcripts, because I parked it out in the courtroom, but I still went to prison.
[01:24:10.920 --> 01:24:11.920]  And that's...
[01:24:11.920 --> 01:24:15.920]  Yeah, I was going to say, so I had that workout for you, bubba.
[01:24:15.920 --> 01:24:23.920]  Yeah. You see C1-308, I'm sure it's all true, but I still went to prison.
[01:24:23.920 --> 01:24:33.920]  Okay, here's the deal. Your only purpose in the trial court is to set the record for appeal.
[01:24:33.920 --> 01:24:44.920]  Always, we have to keep that in mind. Once you have challenged subject matter jurisdiction, there is no need to re-challenge.
[01:24:44.920 --> 01:24:57.920]  It's already before the court, and you can move on. And in this case, the judge was correct in having you arrested for contempt.
[01:24:57.920 --> 01:25:08.920]  Because once the judge, once you do something that disrupts the court, then the judge has to give you notice and opportunity.
[01:25:08.920 --> 01:25:15.920]  He gave you notice and opportunity, and you didn't pay attention.
[01:25:15.920 --> 01:25:27.920]  And he does have the authority to maintain the dignity of the forum, and he can't find you in contempt for disrupting the forum.
[01:25:27.920 --> 01:25:39.920]  So these guys in legal reform, I don't know how much of that they actually promote and how much is misunderstanding.
[01:25:39.920 --> 01:25:46.920]  The idea of changing to Admiralty is just nonsense.
[01:25:46.920 --> 01:25:57.920]  Because in the Fed, Admiralty has been codified into the civil code, and essentially there is no more Admiralty.
[01:25:57.920 --> 01:26:02.920]  All of that's combined, 1965, it was combined into the civil code.
[01:26:02.920 --> 01:26:14.920]  So Admiralty is essentially an archaic term in this context, as there is no specific distinction.
[01:26:14.920 --> 01:26:24.920]  But when they say that the judge changed jurisdiction, that calls up one of my rules.
[01:26:24.920 --> 01:26:29.920]  Never make a proactive statement of law out of your own mouth.
[01:26:29.920 --> 01:26:41.920]  What law, what case law did they cite to support their assertion that by walking out of the courtroom, the judge changes jurisdiction?
[01:26:41.920 --> 01:26:47.920]  Oh, they didn't cite anything. He just banged the gavel and said overruled. That's all he ever said.
[01:26:47.920 --> 01:26:56.920]  No, no, this group that claimed that the fact that the judge got up and walked out of the courtroom and came back changed jurisdiction.
[01:26:56.920 --> 01:27:00.920]  You know, that sounds like waving the magic wand, hocus pocus.
[01:27:00.920 --> 01:27:09.920]  I'm a creature statute. Statutorily, how does that change jurisdiction?
[01:27:09.920 --> 01:27:15.920]  Oh, they never said. Or if they did, I was too new and didn't understand it.
[01:27:15.920 --> 01:27:21.920]  Okay. We'll say that they didn't state that.
[01:27:21.920 --> 01:27:34.920]  I have listened to a lot of this stuff. When I first got into Legal Reform on 10, 12 years ago, there was a lot of this stuff floating around.
[01:27:34.920 --> 01:27:40.920]  And I ran into Kid Magnuson the first time at one of these hearings.
[01:27:40.920 --> 01:27:52.920]  And frankly, Ken was all over these guys. He reamed them good. They didn't like him being there because he called them to task on it.
[01:27:52.920 --> 01:27:59.920]  And back 10, 12 years ago, there was a lot of this stuff. We don't see much of that anymore.
[01:27:59.920 --> 01:28:06.920]  So I'm surprised about this group. And it kind of surprises me because I've never heard of them.
[01:28:06.920 --> 01:28:15.920]  You should have sent them to my show. I'd have ferreted out the details on how they get to these issues.
[01:28:15.920 --> 01:28:19.920]  Oh, the black group?
[01:28:19.920 --> 01:28:31.920]  The black priest or whatever issue. These are the kinds of things that do nothing but discredit us in court.
[01:28:31.920 --> 01:28:42.920]  We're in their form. And the best way to deal with their form is to follow their rules the way they follow their rules.
[01:28:42.920 --> 01:28:52.920]  Now, the rules are not weighted against you. And a lot of people say, oh, they're everything's against us. No, it's not.
[01:28:52.920 --> 01:29:02.920]  They have all kinds of protections in there. And the reason they do is they know that they're not the only scoundrel in the building.
[01:29:02.920 --> 01:29:12.920]  All the rest of these guys are scoundrels. And they need rules and procedures to protect themselves from the other scoundrels.
[01:29:12.920 --> 01:29:18.920]  So we can go in and use those rules to protect ourselves from the other scoundrels.
[01:29:18.920 --> 01:29:33.920]  We don't need some magic hocus pocus unexplained magic incantation because these guys are corrupted. Even if we're right, they're not going to pay attention to it.
[01:29:33.920 --> 01:29:41.920]  But if we get them to undermine their own rules, that they're not going to want to do because it undermines their own protections.
[01:29:41.920 --> 01:29:51.920]  Hang on. Radio. I'll call it number 512-646-1984. We'll be right back.
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[01:34:01.920 --> 01:34:12.920]  Okay, we are back.
[01:34:12.920 --> 01:34:16.920]  We're at the Calton-Dover-Stevens Roodleville Radio. We're talking to Jeff from Mississippi.
[01:34:16.920 --> 01:34:23.920]  Jeff, are we about done? I've got another guy that I really want to talk to. I was in court with him today.
[01:34:23.920 --> 01:34:33.920]  I've got two quick questions, and this goes back to our writ of search. When I was arrested for the rifle on campus,
[01:34:33.920 --> 01:34:39.920]  I produced the land title that proved that the campus was private property.
[01:34:39.920 --> 01:34:45.920]  The judge suppressed that. He would not allow that in court. He escorted the jury out so they couldn't hear it.
[01:34:45.920 --> 01:34:54.920]  However, I had filed a motion to dismiss before, and I included the land title in the motion.
[01:34:54.920 --> 01:35:00.920]  So we had a motion hearing. They overruled my motion, but if you look in the transcripts,
[01:35:00.920 --> 01:35:05.920]  my motion along with that land title are in the transcripts.
[01:35:05.920 --> 01:35:10.920]  So could we say that that's actually been entered into evidence or not?
[01:35:10.920 --> 01:35:17.920]  Absolutely. Okay, so that is on the official record then in my motion.
[01:35:17.920 --> 01:35:21.920]  It is. It is properly before the court.
[01:35:21.920 --> 01:35:26.920]  Now, the judge, during the trial while I was arguing the land title,
[01:35:26.920 --> 01:35:31.920]  one of his reasons for throwing the land title out is he claimed that it was not authentic.
[01:35:31.920 --> 01:35:40.920]  And looking back, I wasn't quick enough. I objected, but I should have said that the seal of the county clerk
[01:35:40.920 --> 01:35:47.920]  was authentication itself, and I didn't do that. So was that...
[01:35:47.920 --> 01:35:55.920]  It didn't matter. You objected to his ruling, and you can show that his ruling was improper, and that's all you need to do.
[01:35:55.920 --> 01:36:05.920]  Okay. Well, send me an e-mail and give me a synopsis of this conversation so that I don't forget it.
[01:36:05.920 --> 01:36:12.920]  Okay, sure. All right. Well, I just want to thank Walt. Walt's right, but the court plays a different game.
[01:36:12.920 --> 01:36:22.920]  Okay. I think Rock's full of crapola, but we won't go there.
[01:36:22.920 --> 01:36:26.920]  All right. Well, hey, thanks, Randy, and I'll talk to you next week.
[01:36:26.920 --> 01:36:31.920]  Okay. Thank you. Okay. Now we're going to go to Tim, Texas. Hello, Tim.
[01:36:31.920 --> 01:36:33.920]  Hello, sir.
[01:36:33.920 --> 01:36:39.920]  Okay. What do you have for us today? I assume it's about the hearing we were at today.
[01:36:39.920 --> 01:36:54.920]  Well, yeah, I just got so many questions going through my mind, but it seems like they've ignored our challenge of subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:36:54.920 --> 01:37:07.920]  Yes, okay. Hang on. I have Tim file a... He owns an auto shop in Newark, Texas, and he had some vehicles out there that weren't currently tagged,
[01:37:07.920 --> 01:37:17.920]  so he's working on them and such. And his wife was on the city council and didn't vote for the city administrator's raise.
[01:37:17.920 --> 01:37:24.920]  And as soon as she got off the council, the administrator orchestrated the city to come after Tim.
[01:37:24.920 --> 01:37:29.920]  So they had a hearing. They screwed everything up. We filed a challenge subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:37:29.920 --> 01:37:48.920]  They didn't respond to it. And today they filed a petition for temporary restraining order and they set a hearing for a permanent injunction based on a lawsuit they haven't filed.
[01:37:48.920 --> 01:38:00.920]  And they called them and told them they were filing for the temporary restraining order. And so I changed clothes, jumped the car and ran down there.
[01:38:00.920 --> 01:38:16.920]  And I couldn't see a copy of what they were asking to restrain, but as they talked to the judge, I got enough to tell that they weren't trying to shut down Tim's business,
[01:38:16.920 --> 01:38:26.920]  that they were trying to restrain him from something else. And what the restraining was, was to restrain him from having jumped vehicles on the property.
[01:38:26.920 --> 01:38:32.920]  Well, apparently Tim, you got all that taken care of, so that's not an issue anymore.
[01:38:32.920 --> 01:38:44.920]  Well, I've got a couple on there that are not... One's got the engine torn apart, but it's got permanent license for antique vehicle in Alabama.
[01:38:44.920 --> 01:38:50.920]  So you've got enough to argue that there is nothing that's in violation of the code.
[01:38:50.920 --> 01:39:02.920]  Well, when I look through the photographs, basically I think what they're trying to say is that my business is a hazard to children.
[01:39:02.920 --> 01:39:13.920]  We don't need to go there yet. They want to come after you because you went after them. And this is what happens. They're used to people just knuckling under for them.
[01:39:13.920 --> 01:39:15.920]  Right.
[01:39:15.920 --> 01:39:29.920]  And when someone doesn't, they get really, really stupid. It took about halfway through this hearing before I realized these guys are screwing up big time.
[01:39:29.920 --> 01:39:30.920]  Right.
[01:39:30.920 --> 01:39:43.920]  And that's when I called Tim over. He was up and I had him go up stand by the defense table and he come back and I said, leave him alone, leave him alone. Don't interfere with them when they're screwing up.
[01:39:43.920 --> 01:39:56.920]  They, the lawyer asked the judge to set an administrative hearing after Tim asked for a jury trial. They charged him criminally under the local ordinances.
[01:39:56.920 --> 01:40:11.920]  And they convened this administrative hearing for the purpose of determining if the vehicles that they were citing were actually junk by the definition of the term.
[01:40:11.920 --> 01:40:17.920]  But that's not what they did in the hearing. They convicted him of the criminal accusations.
[01:40:17.920 --> 01:40:28.920]  Even after he had requested a jury trial, well, we filed a challenge, subject matter jurisdiction. Well, they told the judge that these were administrative penalties.
[01:40:28.920 --> 01:40:40.920]  They lied to the court. They never told the judge that we had an unanswered challenge to subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:40:40.920 --> 01:40:50.920]  And I'm listening to them talk to the judge about some administrative rule that allows them to secure an injunction.
[01:40:50.920 --> 01:40:59.920]  And I'm thinking, wait a minute, they didn't charge him administratively. They charge him criminally. They're lying to the judge.
[01:40:59.920 --> 01:41:12.920]  Now, this judge is a real tense, smart mouth character. I asked him a question after the hearing was over. And he got real smart with me.
[01:41:12.920 --> 01:41:22.920]  Now, I'm asking my question anyway. He answered it because heck, he wasn't a judge anymore. The court was not convened.
[01:41:22.920 --> 01:41:30.920]  And I'm considering filing a bargery. I mean, it's just a conduct complaint against him. Yeah, I'm waiting.
[01:41:30.920 --> 01:41:42.920]  Because, yeah, yeah, he's my he's the servant. I'm the master. I don't come to court to be treated with that kind of disrespect from my public servants.
[01:41:42.920 --> 01:41:52.920]  But I'll only do that if it serves the case. But anyway, we've got this, these lawyers trying to intimidate Tim.
[01:41:52.920 --> 01:41:57.920]  They're claiming to file a hundred thousand dollar lawsuit against them.
[01:41:57.920 --> 01:42:06.920]  Well, I already talked when they were coming in the courtroom, I was talking to the district attorney. I don't think they knew who he was.
[01:42:06.920 --> 01:42:13.920]  And I told Greg, I said, you need to go in there. These guys are going to commit crimes. They're going to commit baritry.
[01:42:13.920 --> 01:42:21.920]  And I need you to see it. And as they're walking up, he said, look, I'm the district attorney. I'm not a witness.
[01:42:21.920 --> 01:42:29.920]  Don't ask me to watch. I said, come on, Greg, take your chicken suit off. This is going to be fun and interesting.
[01:42:29.920 --> 01:42:42.920]  He ran from the courthouse. I like Greg, but he was right. He wasn't the witness. But what they did was baritry.
[01:42:42.920 --> 01:42:58.920]  They said that. And the thing about it is that you have to get one corrupt judge who's a lawyer, a corrupt lawyer, to agree with another corrupt lawyer who works for a corrupt law firm.
[01:42:58.920 --> 01:43:08.920]  They're just in it for the money. They can keep you and I, who are just tax-paying citizens running around, paying their vacation money.
[01:43:08.920 --> 01:43:17.920]  Okay. And what I had told Tim from the beginning is we're going to bargue him into the Stone Age, but not yet.
[01:43:17.920 --> 01:43:25.920]  They're not through screwing up. Tim and his wife called today and they were really concerned about this restraining order.
[01:43:25.920 --> 01:43:35.920]  And I understood their concern and that was these lawyers' intent to try to bully and intimidate.
[01:43:35.920 --> 01:43:42.920]  Well, their problem was is they got a third party who don't have a dog in the hot, so I didn't get excited.
[01:43:42.920 --> 01:43:49.920]  I backed up and said, okay, what in the heck is going on here? And it didn't take long to become clear.
[01:43:49.920 --> 01:43:58.920]  These guys are just trying to rattle their saber and give Tim to run away. And we'll explain why he won't when we come back. We'll be right back.
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[01:46:30.920 --> 01:46:39.920]  Somebody's on a police, that police man. Somebody's on a police, a police.
[01:46:39.920 --> 01:46:48.920]  There's always room at the top of the hill. I hear through the grapevine and it's lonely left too.
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[01:47:00.920 --> 01:47:06.920]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton with our radio, and we're talking to Tim in Texas.
[01:47:06.920 --> 01:47:13.920]  And Tim, you're right at the tipping point. I had told Tim, they're screwing up all this stuff.
[01:47:13.920 --> 01:47:21.920]  And you've got all these bar grievances and complaints you can file against them, but don't do it yet because they're not done screwing up.
[01:47:21.920 --> 01:47:26.920]  This filing opened the door.
[01:47:26.920 --> 01:47:31.920]  I told the prosecuting attorney that what they're doing is baritry.
[01:47:31.920 --> 01:47:35.920]  Texas is the only state in the union that has baritry laws.
[01:47:35.920 --> 01:47:45.920]  And what they've done here, and I've got Ken on the guest bridge and I'm going to unmute him because he may have a baritry comment.
[01:47:45.920 --> 01:47:57.920]  The lawyers advised the city to take an action that resulted in litigation that the lawyers could then represent.
[01:47:57.920 --> 01:48:09.920]  In this case, they filed their claim to be filing a civil action to sue to collected administrative penalty.
[01:48:09.920 --> 01:48:12.920]  But there was no administrative penalty.
[01:48:12.920 --> 01:48:19.920]  They had an administrative tribunal convict them of criminal charges against them.
[01:48:19.920 --> 01:48:24.920]  And they got to challenge the subject matter jurisdiction as a result.
[01:48:24.920 --> 01:48:30.920]  And the lawyers advised the city to take an action that's patently legal.
[01:48:30.920 --> 01:48:44.920]  And the lawyers have almost certainly got paid to produce this restraining order document and the suit they are led there, asserted to.
[01:48:44.920 --> 01:48:50.920]  Ken, what does baritry laws in Texas say about that?
[01:48:50.920 --> 01:48:55.920]  Well, it doesn't give you a very long definition from what I've read.
[01:48:55.920 --> 01:49:00.920]  No, hold on, Tim.
[01:49:00.920 --> 01:49:03.920]  Ken, are you there?
[01:49:03.920 --> 01:49:08.920]  I've come in late to the show, so I don't really have a comment on this.
[01:49:08.920 --> 01:49:23.920]  Baritry, when a lawyer advises a client to take an action that results in litigation that the lawyer then represents and makes money from, isn't that felony baritry?
[01:49:23.920 --> 01:49:27.920]  Baritry is a felony in Texas.
[01:49:27.920 --> 01:49:32.920]  So, now they've really stuck their foot in it.
[01:49:32.920 --> 01:49:46.920]  Now, we not only get to go after them with bar grievances and just a condo complaint, but we also get to, when they hold this hearing, when you petition for a temporary restraining order,
[01:49:46.920 --> 01:49:53.920]  they'll restrain the other party long enough to hold an evidentiary hearing.
[01:49:53.920 --> 01:49:57.920]  They opened the door for an evidentiary hearing in front of a district judge.
[01:49:57.920 --> 01:50:02.920]  And this guy's kind of a jerk. Wonderful.
[01:50:02.920 --> 01:50:06.920]  We'll use his jerkness against these lawyers.
[01:50:06.920 --> 01:50:17.920]  By the time Tim gets to the evidentiary hearing, we'll already have four or five bar grievances against each of these attorneys.
[01:50:17.920 --> 01:50:27.920]  We'll have judicial conduct complaints against the municipal court judge and criminal complaints against the municipal court judge.
[01:50:27.920 --> 01:50:29.920]  We'll have them all.
[01:50:29.920 --> 01:50:33.920]  Now they'll find out what we really had in store for them.
[01:50:33.920 --> 01:50:38.920]  And then we'll be getting in front of this judge for the evidentiary hearing.
[01:50:38.920 --> 01:50:49.920]  Then we will all invoke the judge's duty as a magistrate and see how straight-laced he really is.
[01:50:49.920 --> 01:50:57.920]  See if he's just got attitude or if he really is straight-laced and follows law.
[01:50:57.920 --> 01:50:58.920]  Tim?
[01:50:58.920 --> 01:51:00.920]  Yes, sir.
[01:51:00.920 --> 01:51:03.920]  Have you looked over the documents?
[01:51:03.920 --> 01:51:15.920]  I looked over it and it looks like in the document it shows where the city had, I think it was September the 5th or 1st.
[01:51:15.920 --> 01:51:25.920]  I think there's two different ones where they had taken and filed so that it would be a new ordinance.
[01:51:25.920 --> 01:51:32.920]  So they're changing their ordinances to fit me, I suppose.
[01:51:32.920 --> 01:51:35.920]  Okay, one question I had.
[01:51:35.920 --> 01:51:41.920]  In the little bit I saw in the documents, they referenced $100,000 lawsuit.
[01:51:41.920 --> 01:51:45.920]  Okay, I think that was just a category.
[01:51:45.920 --> 01:51:53.920]  Okay, well they referenced a claim against you in order to file a temporary restraining order.
[01:51:53.920 --> 01:51:55.920]  You have to have a lawsuit filed.
[01:51:55.920 --> 01:51:59.920]  $1,000 in less, I think, is what the wording is.
[01:51:59.920 --> 01:52:01.920]  Oh, I thought it said $100,000.
[01:52:01.920 --> 01:52:02.920]  Well, it does.
[01:52:02.920 --> 01:52:05.920]  It says $100,000 ordinance.
[01:52:05.920 --> 01:52:13.920]  Okay, did you have a lawsuit in that paperwork?
[01:52:13.920 --> 01:52:16.920]  Wait, did I have a lawsuit against me?
[01:52:16.920 --> 01:52:18.920]  Yeah.
[01:52:18.920 --> 01:52:20.920]  Well, no.
[01:52:20.920 --> 01:52:23.920]  Well, they had a whole big file.
[01:52:23.920 --> 01:52:25.920]  I didn't go through all of it.
[01:52:25.920 --> 01:52:34.920]  It was just basically all the ordinances that they had, and then they had a bunch of pictures they had been taking of people who bring their cars to my shop.
[01:52:34.920 --> 01:52:39.920]  These were not even vehicles that were named in the original complaint.
[01:52:39.920 --> 01:52:43.920]  But the people bring vehicles to me so they can get them on the road again.
[01:52:43.920 --> 01:52:46.920]  They're not always registered and inspected.
[01:52:46.920 --> 01:52:47.920]  No, wait, wait, wait, wait.
[01:52:47.920 --> 01:52:49.920]  We don't have time to argue all the issues.
[01:52:49.920 --> 01:52:53.920]  Okay, well, I don't know the answer to your question.
[01:52:53.920 --> 01:52:58.920]  Okay, well, I'm trying to get at what they're claiming.
[01:52:58.920 --> 01:53:01.920]  Are they claiming that they filed a new ordinance?
[01:53:01.920 --> 01:53:07.920]  They passed the new ordinance, and now they're moving against you with that new ordinance?
[01:53:07.920 --> 01:53:15.920]  I think so because it's September is when it shows the city administrator as the notary.
[01:53:15.920 --> 01:53:29.920]  Let me read this, is plaintiff's original petition to collect administrative penalties, verified application for temporary restraining order, and request for temporary and permanent injunction and request for disclosure.
[01:53:29.920 --> 01:53:34.920]  That's what this whole thing says that they filed today.
[01:53:34.920 --> 01:53:39.920]  Plaintiff's petition to collect administrative penalties.
[01:53:39.920 --> 01:53:44.920]  Yes, that's probably trying to collect the $8,000.
[01:53:44.920 --> 01:53:46.920]  Basically, that was retaliation from me.
[01:53:46.920 --> 01:53:48.920]  Oh, wait a minute.
[01:53:48.920 --> 01:53:49.920]  Hold on.
[01:53:49.920 --> 01:53:50.920]  That's your arguing issue.
[01:53:50.920 --> 01:53:51.920]  Hang on.
[01:53:51.920 --> 01:53:52.920]  Come back.
[01:53:52.920 --> 01:53:53.920]  Okay.
[01:53:53.920 --> 01:53:59.920]  What administrative penalties were you assessed?
[01:53:59.920 --> 01:54:03.920]  Well, the $8,000 is what they're saying.
[01:54:03.920 --> 01:54:05.920]  Well, now wait a minute.
[01:54:05.920 --> 01:54:13.920]  Now you've got to separate what you think about what they're saying from what they're actually saying.
[01:54:13.920 --> 01:54:25.920]  Were you subjected to an administrative claim that they filed against you administratively?
[01:54:25.920 --> 01:54:27.920]  Not that I know of.
[01:54:27.920 --> 01:54:31.920]  Yeah, I thought they filed against you criminally.
[01:54:31.920 --> 01:54:43.920]  Ms. McFlane, the original prosecutor, she said today in court that I requested an administrative hearing.
[01:54:43.920 --> 01:54:51.920]  And in the recording that she doesn't know that we have, she suggested, because I told her I was not guilty.
[01:54:51.920 --> 01:54:52.920]  And she said, well, I have pictures.
[01:54:52.920 --> 01:54:53.920]  I said, I don't care.
[01:54:53.920 --> 01:54:54.920]  I'm not guilty.
[01:54:54.920 --> 01:55:03.920]  And she said, well, what we can do is we can go before an administrative board or administrative hearing.
[01:55:03.920 --> 01:55:06.920]  And I said, whatever, but I'm not guilty.
[01:55:06.920 --> 01:55:07.920]  Okay.
[01:55:07.920 --> 01:55:11.920]  Here's what the recording said.
[01:55:11.920 --> 01:55:28.920]  Your Honor, Mr. Pixler would like an administrative hearing for the purpose of determining if the automobiles in question are junked by the definition of the code.
[01:55:28.920 --> 01:55:34.920]  That's what the transcript says, or that's what is on the recording.
[01:55:34.920 --> 01:55:41.920]  The recording they took was a mess. I had to master it, but that's clearly what she said.
[01:55:41.920 --> 01:55:48.920]  And the court granted a hearing for that limited purpose.
[01:55:48.920 --> 01:55:52.920]  You were charged criminally with violating city ordinances.
[01:55:52.920 --> 01:56:05.920]  You were not charged administratively. And an administrative hearing prosecuted and convicted you for a criminal accusation.
[01:56:05.920 --> 01:56:06.920]  Right.
[01:56:06.920 --> 01:56:09.920]  And then they came before the court.
[01:56:09.920 --> 01:56:12.920]  And that's when I realized what was going on.
[01:56:12.920 --> 01:56:15.920]  They told the court these reminiscence penalties.
[01:56:15.920 --> 01:56:21.920]  And when I heard that, that's when I called you over and I said, stop, stop, stop.
[01:56:21.920 --> 01:56:24.920]  Don't interfere.
[01:56:24.920 --> 01:56:28.920]  Never interfere with somebody when they screw it up.
[01:56:28.920 --> 01:56:29.920]  Right.
[01:56:29.920 --> 01:56:37.920]  The prosecutor didn't say, I'm reading from the recording when we were in the room with her, not inside the court with the judge.
[01:56:37.920 --> 01:56:39.920]  She said, and go from there.
[01:56:39.920 --> 01:56:47.920]  And if you disagree with their findings, then find, there we can bring it to the judiciary, of course.
[01:56:47.920 --> 01:56:57.920]  Oh, when she says we can bring it to the judiciary, that's why she's like, she's given me an option to disagree with this thing.
[01:56:57.920 --> 01:57:02.920]  I'm thinking, you know, this is just a bunch of people getting together and discussing this.
[01:57:02.920 --> 01:57:06.920]  Yeah. And there's another problem. There's another problem with that.
[01:57:06.920 --> 01:57:22.920]  You were brought to court based on criminal accusations and under the American Bar Association standards for the prosecutorial function, a prosecuting attorney is forbidden to give legal advice to the accused, to the defendant.
[01:57:22.920 --> 01:57:29.920]  And she gave you legal advice and advised you to request an administrative hearing.
[01:57:29.920 --> 01:57:43.920]  Did she use that administrative hearing in order to get an administrative panel who was there to determine if vehicles were junk to convict you of criminal charges?
[01:57:43.920 --> 01:57:48.920]  They were handpicked by the city administrator, probably filled.
[01:57:48.920 --> 01:57:56.920]  Well, one of them was an employee. The other one was the crazy lady that lives across the highway from my shop who caused trouble ever since she's gotten there.
[01:57:56.920 --> 01:58:01.920]  And then the other one is the guy who was on city council who was causing trouble in his neighborhood.
[01:58:01.920 --> 01:58:07.920]  So my specific question is, you know, when these things...
[01:58:07.920 --> 01:58:10.920]  Okay, we wait quickly. You've got 40 seconds.
[01:58:10.920 --> 01:58:21.920]  Well, okay. Originally, when I walked into the courtroom the first day, there was a paper that showed that every one of the vehicles they had me were fined with a total of $808.
[01:58:21.920 --> 01:58:27.920]  When I accepted the administrative hearing, they fined me $8,000.
[01:58:27.920 --> 01:58:30.920]  So it's retaliation. That's exactly what it is. It's bullying.
[01:58:30.920 --> 01:58:36.920]  It's all retaliation. Okay. Sorry, guys. Sorry, Joseph. We won't get to you real out of time.
[01:58:36.920 --> 01:58:39.920]  Randy Kelk, Denver Stevens, Reba Radio. I won't be here tomorrow night.
[01:58:39.920 --> 01:58:44.920]  We'll have an archive. I have a medical issue with the wife. But we'll be here next week.
[01:58:44.920 --> 01:58:49.920]  Thank you all for listening and good night.
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