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[00:44.000 --> 00:49.000]  Today in history, the year 1981, Sandra Day O'Connor is unanimously approved by the U.S.
[00:49.000 --> 00:57.000]  Senate as the first female Supreme Court justice today in history.
[00:57.000 --> 01:02.000]  In recent news, Ahmad Kham Rahami, the man sought by state investigators for possible
[01:02.000 --> 01:06.000]  connections to the detonating of some explosives in a dumpster in Manhattan and on a route
[01:06.000 --> 01:10.000]  in Seaside Park, New Jersey, and in a backpack which was detonated by police around a train
[01:10.000 --> 01:13.000]  station in Elizabeth, got into a shootout with local PD.
[01:13.000 --> 01:17.000]  Police and FBI had announced early Monday that they were seeking Rahami in connection
[01:17.000 --> 01:22.000]  with the bombings in the Chelsea District when, as Lyndon Police Captain James Sarniki
[01:22.000 --> 01:26.000]  told local NBC affiliates, officers were responding to a call about a person sleeping in a door
[01:26.000 --> 01:29.000]  way of a local bar turned out to be him.
[01:29.000 --> 01:33.000]  When approaching, the officers noticed his resemblance to the wanted bulletin, and they
[01:33.000 --> 01:35.000]  then ordered him to show his hands.
[01:35.000 --> 01:39.000]  Rahami pulled out a handgun and fired a shot at the officer, striking him in the abdomen.
[01:39.000 --> 01:42.000]  Luckily, most of the round was stopped by a protective vest.
[01:42.000 --> 01:45.000]  The officer returned fire, but Rahami simply walked away.
[01:45.000 --> 01:49.000]  He was eventually shot down the street by several police officers, where again shots
[01:49.000 --> 01:50.000]  were exchanged.
[01:50.000 --> 01:54.000]  He was taken away in an ambulance to University Hospital in Newark, where his condition is
[01:54.000 --> 01:55.000]  still unknown.
[01:55.000 --> 02:00.000]  We have every reason to believe this was an act of terror, Mayor of New York Bill Belasio
[02:00.000 --> 02:04.000]  said in a news conference, also stating that investigators are not seeking any other individuals
[02:04.000 --> 02:05.000]  at the moment.
[02:05.000 --> 02:09.000]  That is, even though apparently, according to the FBI, Rahami's role in the explosives
[02:09.000 --> 02:10.000]  remains unknown.
[02:10.000 --> 02:13.000]  Even though he was carrying a notebook containing his pro jihadist writings, including a reference
[02:13.000 --> 02:20.000]  to the slain al-Qaeda terrorist Anwar al-Waqi, and notes about killing the kufar, or unbeliever,
[02:20.000 --> 02:24.000]  as was stated by law enforcement to the Times, the FBI didn't disclose whether the five
[02:24.000 --> 02:29.000]  people taken into custody Sunday night and later released were linked to Rahami or how
[02:29.000 --> 02:31.000]  Rahami and his family fit into all of it.
[02:31.000 --> 02:35.000]  And it was reported yesterday by the New York Times that his father told authorities two
[02:35.000 --> 02:37.000]  years ago that his son was a terrorist.
[02:37.000 --> 02:41.000]  As of Monday, Ahmed has been charged with five counts of attempted murder on law enforcement
[02:41.000 --> 02:45.000]  officers and two second-degree counts of his ownership of a handgun.
[02:45.000 --> 02:49.000]  Bill has been set at $5.2 million by State Superior Judge.
[02:49.000 --> 02:56.000]  This is Rick Roady with your Lowdown for September 21, 2016.
[03:19.000 --> 03:26.000]  All right.
[03:26.000 --> 03:27.000]  Howdy, howdy.
[03:27.000 --> 03:38.000]  This is Randy Kelton of Rules Law Radio on this Friday, the 23rd day of September, 2016.
[03:38.000 --> 03:41.000]  And thank you all for listening.
[03:41.000 --> 03:43.000]  We do have the phones open.
[03:43.000 --> 03:45.000]  We'll have them open all night.
[03:45.000 --> 03:52.000]  If you have any questions or comments, give us a call, 512-646-1984.
[03:52.000 --> 04:00.000]  And I'm going to start out a little bit talking about the e-book that I'm working on.
[04:00.000 --> 04:09.000]  I'm looking for some input on how best I should structure this thing.
[04:09.000 --> 04:20.000]  I'm looking at, instead of turning it into an e-book, use it as a springboard toward
[04:20.000 --> 04:25.000]  a tool and a technology I've been working on for a very long time.
[04:25.000 --> 04:36.000]  And that is a tool where you can go onto the site and read about, first, how the law really
[04:36.000 --> 04:47.000]  works and develop a way of thinking about the legal system that will allow you to maneuver
[04:47.000 --> 04:49.000]  more effectively through it.
[04:49.000 --> 04:54.000]  Then we'll go to specific topics.
[04:54.000 --> 05:01.000]  And for a long time, I've been developing a technology whereby I use a set of questionnaires
[05:01.000 --> 05:04.000]  to mine through the codes.
[05:04.000 --> 05:11.000]  And I have a number of these questionnaires put together.
[05:11.000 --> 05:19.000]  There's some empty places in the work that I still need to fill up.
[05:19.000 --> 05:23.000]  But I have a tremendous amount of work done on it.
[05:23.000 --> 05:33.000]  So I can give you a lot of tools where, if you have a criminal issue, I can walk you
[05:33.000 --> 05:37.000]  through the first thing I want to take people through when they come to criminal is due
[05:37.000 --> 05:45.000]  process and the registration process.
[05:45.000 --> 05:53.000]  And that's because most people, when they get arrested, get charged with a crime, they
[05:53.000 --> 06:02.000]  really feel on the defensive and they feel like they're at the mercy of the prosecutor
[06:02.000 --> 06:04.000]  and the judge.
[06:04.000 --> 06:10.000]  Well, the first thing I want to do is demonstrate that you have remedy.
[06:10.000 --> 06:13.000]  You've got lots of remedy.
[06:13.000 --> 06:17.000]  The primary reason is everything we do in the criminal justice system from the rest
[06:17.000 --> 06:23.000]  of the trial is not only wrong, it's very specifically against a particular law.
[06:23.000 --> 06:33.000]  And I have a questionnaire designed to demonstrate exactly how what they're doing is
[06:33.000 --> 06:41.000]  against a particular law and what needs to be added to it.
[06:41.000 --> 06:45.000]  And what's part of the technology that I've been working on for a long time and having
[06:45.000 --> 06:56.000]  trouble getting programmers to write the code I need is the questionnaires that I've been
[06:56.000 --> 06:58.000]  developing.
[06:58.000 --> 07:06.000]  Each question goes to a legal issue or an element.
[07:06.000 --> 07:17.000]  And each of those issues and elements, if it exists within your particular fact set,
[07:17.000 --> 07:22.000]  there is a way to address that legally, to adjudicate that.
[07:22.000 --> 07:29.000]  So what I'm trying to do is get someone to write a little widget that I can add to this
[07:29.000 --> 07:33.000]  mind map tool that I use to develop it with.
[07:33.000 --> 07:42.000]  The mind map tool produces an output that's similar to a table of contents, except rather
[07:42.000 --> 07:47.000]  than projecting vertically, it projects horizontally for one thing.
[07:47.000 --> 08:00.000]  But the other thing is each node, each listing, for instance, in a table of contents goes
[08:00.000 --> 08:09.000]  to a specific issue and then each subsection goes to a subset of that issue, a more specific
[08:09.000 --> 08:12.000]  application of the issue.
[08:12.000 --> 08:19.000]  So what I'm looking to do is each time you answer a question, say you were arrested,
[08:19.000 --> 08:29.000]  and they click yes, then the system will go to my database and the database will have
[08:29.000 --> 08:33.000]  a table for you were arrested.
[08:33.000 --> 08:38.000]  It will look in that table and pull a sentence out.
[08:38.000 --> 08:43.000]  Defendant was arrested and drop it in a document.
[08:43.000 --> 08:49.000]  And as it asks you this question, each time you answer a question, it will go to the database
[08:49.000 --> 08:57.000]  and pull a statement out and add it to the document so that as you answer the questions,
[08:57.000 --> 09:01.000]  it will create you a statement of facts.
[09:01.000 --> 09:11.000]  Now, the unique and important part about this is people for the most part don't know what's
[09:11.000 --> 09:14.000]  important.
[09:14.000 --> 09:21.000]  Even if you're a lawyer and you get in a legal situation, because you have a dog in the hunt
[09:21.000 --> 09:30.000]  and you have an emotional content attached to the issue, it's really hard to isolate out
[09:30.000 --> 09:37.000]  what's important, what's important in law, as opposed to what seemed important to me
[09:37.000 --> 09:39.000]  at the time.
[09:39.000 --> 09:45.000]  So this questionnaire is designed to do that, to isolate out.
[09:45.000 --> 09:53.000]  I just talked to my local chief of police here in Boyd, Texas, about how I wanted them
[09:53.000 --> 09:59.000]  to change the way they did traffic courts.
[09:59.000 --> 10:02.000]  I wanted them to hold an examining trial.
[10:02.000 --> 10:09.000]  And the first thing you have to do in an examining trial is the person gets an opportunity to
[10:09.000 --> 10:10.000]  make a statement.
[10:10.000 --> 10:15.000]  And he said, yeah, but people don't know law, they don't know what's relevant and what's
[10:15.000 --> 10:16.000]  not relevant.
[10:16.000 --> 10:19.000]  They just get up there and they run on and on and on.
[10:19.000 --> 10:25.000]  I said, look, Greg, you're going to give them for three to five hundred bucks, the least
[10:25.000 --> 10:31.000]  you could do is be a little patient and give them the courtesy of hearing their story.
[10:31.000 --> 10:38.000]  And he sat there a second and he said, well, you got a good point there.
[10:38.000 --> 10:47.000]  But that's their complaint is you don't know what is relevant to your situation and what
[10:47.000 --> 10:50.000]  as opposed to what you didn't like about your situation.
[10:50.000 --> 11:02.000]  By following the questionnaire, each answer leads directly to the next question and each
[11:02.000 --> 11:09.000]  answer points to a legal element that we can then record.
[11:09.000 --> 11:14.000]  While the questionnaire itself is extremely large, nobody sees it.
[11:14.000 --> 11:17.000]  They only follow one path through it.
[11:17.000 --> 11:28.000]  And this will allow us to develop documents with, for instance, the bar grievance site.
[11:28.000 --> 11:35.000]  I have the questionnaire up right now that will mean about four or five questions, take
[11:35.000 --> 11:51.000]  you to most any single grievance, any single standard for all the standards, the whole
[11:51.000 --> 11:53.000]  American Bar Association standards.
[11:53.000 --> 11:58.000]  You don't have to mess with all of them because 99 percent of them you don't care about.
[11:58.000 --> 12:02.000]  And for questions, I walk you to the one that is important to you.
[12:02.000 --> 12:05.000]  So it helps to mine through the code.
[12:05.000 --> 12:11.000]  And when you get to this point, there are a set of questions that's relatively easy to
[12:11.000 --> 12:21.000]  develop that will effectively develop a claim against the lawyer.
[12:21.000 --> 12:27.000]  If you're going to make a claim against a lawyer or anyone in either a civil or a criminal
[12:27.000 --> 12:38.000]  action, the claim will be made either in the form of a criminal statute, which has certain
[12:38.000 --> 12:39.000]  elements.
[12:39.000 --> 12:47.000]  And in order for a crime to be alleged, every element of the crime must be alleged and facts
[12:47.000 --> 12:52.000]  must be shown to establish each of those elements.
[12:52.000 --> 13:02.000]  If it's civil, then you'll make your claim under a cause of action or a tort.
[13:02.000 --> 13:10.000]  And both of those, whichever one you do, there's a number of different torts, the number of
[13:10.000 --> 13:12.000]  different causes of action.
[13:12.000 --> 13:15.000]  They all have specific elements.
[13:15.000 --> 13:18.000]  And each of those elements must be addressed.
[13:18.000 --> 13:23.000]  So we just do it in the questionnaire.
[13:23.000 --> 13:27.000]  And once you're through the question, answering the questions, we have all the information
[13:27.000 --> 13:30.000]  necessary to create the claim.
[13:30.000 --> 13:36.000]  And I'm developing the technology to write the output document as you answer the question
[13:36.000 --> 13:38.000]  so that you get through.
[13:38.000 --> 13:42.000]  This thing should be able to spit you out a completed document.
[13:42.000 --> 13:47.000]  At least that's what I'm trying to get done.
[13:47.000 --> 13:57.000]  And having a little bit of difficulty is this annoying reality that the idea of having to
[13:57.000 --> 14:00.000]  work and make a living is interfering with my entertainment.
[14:00.000 --> 14:04.000]  It's interfering with me getting done what I want to do.
[14:04.000 --> 14:18.000]  But that's what I'm working toward, I'm thinking about putting up the ebook in an online website
[14:18.000 --> 14:26.000]  where people can start studying it and working with it as I develop in these various questionnaires.
[14:26.000 --> 14:28.000]  I'd like some feedback.
[14:28.000 --> 14:32.000]  If anybody has any comments, I'd like to hear it.
[14:32.000 --> 14:40.000]  We do have a whole board full of callers, so I'm going to stop blabbing for the moment.
[14:40.000 --> 14:44.000]  And we're going to go to caller who will be taking your calls all night.
[14:44.000 --> 14:46.000]  We're going to go to Scott in Texas.
[14:46.000 --> 14:48.000]  Hello, Scott.
[14:48.000 --> 14:50.000]  How are you doing this evening?
[14:50.000 --> 14:53.000]  I am doing good.
[14:53.000 --> 14:54.000]  All right.
[14:54.000 --> 14:58.000]  Well, were you able to call over there today in Rockwall?
[14:58.000 --> 15:00.000]  No, I wasn't.
[15:00.000 --> 15:02.000]  But folks, my bad.
[15:02.000 --> 15:05.000]  It's been one of those really hectic days.
[15:05.000 --> 15:06.000]  I was supposed to call.
[15:06.000 --> 15:10.000]  I was supposed to get Ken Magnuson to call Rockwall, and we were going to have some fun
[15:10.000 --> 15:12.000]  lighting them up.
[15:12.000 --> 15:17.000]  So I'm afraid I'll have to put that off until Monday.
[15:17.000 --> 15:21.000]  I've done this before, and I do have a great time doing it.
[15:21.000 --> 15:28.000]  I just got too many irons in the fire and having trouble keeping up with all of them.
[15:28.000 --> 15:34.000]  And I do apologize, Scott, that this wasn't able to get to it.
[15:34.000 --> 15:36.000]  It takes some preparation.
[15:36.000 --> 15:41.000]  So I'm going to try to get Ken Magnuson on board.
[15:41.000 --> 15:43.000]  He's pretty good at this.
[15:43.000 --> 15:50.000]  And I will be calling them from Root of Law Radio, and Ken will be calling them from
[15:50.000 --> 15:54.000]  Mockingbird Films, a documentary company.
[15:54.000 --> 15:59.000]  And there is a website out there for Mockingbird Films.
[15:59.000 --> 16:05.000]  So if they check either one of us out, they will find us, and they won't like what they
[16:05.000 --> 16:07.000]  find.
[16:07.000 --> 16:11.000]  So I do apologize, Scott, for not getting to that.
[16:11.000 --> 16:12.000]  Okay.
[16:12.000 --> 16:19.000]  Well, as long as you jump on it next week, here's a real interesting thing, though.
[16:19.000 --> 16:29.000]  I sent them a registered letter, and for some reason, I sent another registered letter over
[16:29.000 --> 16:34.000]  there to them about, I sent the first one on Friday, and then I sent the second one
[16:34.000 --> 16:39.000]  on Tuesday, and I got my green card back from the Tuesday one, but not the first one.
[16:39.000 --> 16:43.000]  So it's like they're screwing around with the mail.
[16:43.000 --> 16:44.000]  Okay.
[16:44.000 --> 16:45.000]  Hang on.
[16:45.000 --> 16:46.000]  About to go to break.
[16:46.000 --> 16:47.000]  We picked this up on the other side.
[16:47.000 --> 16:50.000]  I've had similar issues with the mail.
[16:50.000 --> 16:53.000]  This is Randy Kelton, Root of Law Radio.
[16:53.000 --> 17:00.000]  We'll be right back.
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[19:25.000 --> 19:30.000]  Welcome to KELCAN, the LULA Radio, and we are talking to Scott in Texas.
[19:30.000 --> 19:34.000]  Okay, Scott, hello.
[19:34.000 --> 19:40.000]  I was talking about how I sent a registered letter, and then three days later I sent another
[19:40.000 --> 19:46.000]  one, and the one that I sent three days later, I got my green card back, but the one that
[19:46.000 --> 19:50.000]  I sent beforehand, I haven't received my green card back.
[19:50.000 --> 19:53.000]  It's like they are screwing around with the mail.
[19:53.000 --> 20:05.000]  Well, you can go down to the postmaster and ask the postmaster to run a trace on the certified
[20:05.000 --> 20:11.000]  mail number, and she can give you a printout showing where that thing has been.
[20:11.000 --> 20:19.000]  I have a case that I filed, and I filed suit, never got an answer to it, and never got my
[20:19.000 --> 20:21.000]  green card back.
[20:21.000 --> 20:25.000]  Then I went down and got a printout from the postmaster, and it showed they tried to deliver
[20:25.000 --> 20:27.000]  it once and said it was undeliverable.
[20:27.000 --> 20:33.000]  I think the guy, instead of going and delivering it, went and got a pizza or something, and
[20:33.000 --> 20:38.000]  then 30 days later they got it delivered at the same address.
[20:38.000 --> 20:43.000]  They said it was undeliverable the first time, the second time it was deliverable.
[20:43.000 --> 20:49.000]  I never got the green card, but I did get a printout from the U.S. Postal Service saying
[20:49.000 --> 20:54.000]  that it was received by the recipient.
[20:54.000 --> 20:56.000]  So you can get that.
[20:56.000 --> 21:03.000]  There's not much they can do when it comes to trying to screw around with green cards.
[21:03.000 --> 21:10.000]  Certified mail, if you refuse to sign for it after five days, the courts assume you got it.
[21:10.000 --> 21:14.000]  So that doesn't help them much.
[21:14.000 --> 21:16.000]  Yeah, I thought that was kind of odd.
[21:16.000 --> 21:23.000]  I mean, it's like, how in the world could they, because I figured whenever they brought
[21:23.000 --> 21:28.000]  them the mail, when they handed it to them, they had to sign that green, they had to sign
[21:28.000 --> 21:33.000]  for it, and you know.
[21:33.000 --> 21:36.000]  It could be the mail guy lost it.
[21:36.000 --> 21:42.000]  Postal workers do make mistakes on occasion.
[21:42.000 --> 21:43.000]  Okay.
[21:43.000 --> 21:45.000]  On purpose.
[21:45.000 --> 21:47.000]  I think that's the thing.
[21:47.000 --> 21:51.000]  They could be buddy-buddy with the post office down there, because this is going to rock
[21:51.000 --> 21:56.000]  wall, so I'm pretty sure the mailman knows those court clerks pretty well, and they've
[21:56.000 --> 22:01.000]  seen my address come across too many times now.
[22:01.000 --> 22:08.000]  And the postal guy would know that it wouldn't do him any good to mess with it, because he
[22:08.000 --> 22:10.000]  would just come back and haunt him.
[22:10.000 --> 22:14.000]  They'd probably just scoot something up.
[22:14.000 --> 22:15.000]  Okay.
[22:15.000 --> 22:22.000]  Because they did that to me once before even, and they held onto a letter.
[22:22.000 --> 22:23.000]  Go ahead.
[22:23.000 --> 22:29.000]  Go down and jump up and down with the postmaster, and they can trace these things down.
[22:29.000 --> 22:33.000]  A good chance you can find your green card.
[22:33.000 --> 22:34.000]  I'm going to have to do that with mine.
[22:34.000 --> 22:42.000]  I have a motion for no answer default that I can't get put on for hearing, because I
[22:42.000 --> 22:45.000]  don't have the green card.
[22:45.000 --> 22:48.000]  But I'm working on it.
[22:48.000 --> 22:54.000]  I'm going to go down to the postmaster and see if they can't do some digging and find
[22:54.000 --> 22:57.000]  that green card.
[22:57.000 --> 23:00.000]  Or if you get the printout, that's just as good, right?
[23:00.000 --> 23:01.000]  Yeah.
[23:01.000 --> 23:06.000]  I've got a printout, but the one they did was so light, they can't read it, so you
[23:06.000 --> 23:11.000]  have to go to a different postal post office and get them to run it, so it's got a better
[23:11.000 --> 23:17.000]  winner, or get them somehow to make me one that I can read and get it to the court so
[23:17.000 --> 23:20.000]  I can get this thing set for hearing.
[23:20.000 --> 23:21.000]  Okay.
[23:21.000 --> 23:26.000]  You have anything else for us, Scott?
[23:26.000 --> 23:29.000]  That's about it today, looks like.
[23:29.000 --> 23:30.000]  Okay.
[23:30.000 --> 23:33.000]  Thank you, and I apologize for not getting to that.
[23:33.000 --> 23:40.000]  Remind me Monday morning, and I will try to get Ken stirred up, and we'll have a little
[23:40.000 --> 23:41.000]  fun with it.
[23:41.000 --> 23:42.000]  All right.
[23:42.000 --> 23:43.000]  I'll talk to you then.
[23:43.000 --> 23:44.000]  You have a good evening.
[23:44.000 --> 23:45.000]  Okay.
[23:45.000 --> 23:46.000]  Thank you, Scott.
[23:46.000 --> 23:47.000]  Okay.
[23:47.000 --> 23:51.000]  Now we're going to Kathleen in New York.
[23:51.000 --> 23:53.000]  Hello, Kathleen.
[23:53.000 --> 23:56.000]  Hi, Randy.
[23:56.000 --> 23:59.000]  I expected to hear from you this week.
[23:59.000 --> 24:01.000]  Did you email me?
[24:01.000 --> 24:02.000]  Yes.
[24:02.000 --> 24:03.000]  I did receive your email.
[24:03.000 --> 24:05.000]  This has just been such a tough week.
[24:05.000 --> 24:07.000]  I've just been very busy with work and with-
[24:07.000 --> 24:08.000]  No, that's okay.
[24:08.000 --> 24:11.000]  I was just afraid it was me.
[24:11.000 --> 24:12.000]  Oh, no.
[24:12.000 --> 24:13.000]  I definitely received it.
[24:13.000 --> 24:14.000]  Thank you so much.
[24:14.000 --> 24:20.000]  But I did have a few things about two questions I did want to touch on before anything before
[24:20.000 --> 24:22.000]  it gets lost conversation.
[24:22.000 --> 24:28.000]  Because I know last week we didn't get around to it, but I know you were able to take a
[24:28.000 --> 24:34.000]  look at the county records of my parents' documents of the property.
[24:34.000 --> 24:39.000]  We were never able to touch bases on how that went.
[24:39.000 --> 24:41.000]  Did you see anything?
[24:41.000 --> 24:46.000]  Was there anything that was noticeable that I didn't miss?
[24:46.000 --> 24:56.000]  There was, but I've done so many of them that I would have to re- let me open my files and
[24:56.000 --> 24:58.000]  see if I can relocate it.
[24:58.000 --> 25:06.000]  I've gotten to where I'm more careful because I tend to merge things together if I'm not
[25:06.000 --> 25:07.000]  careful.
[25:07.000 --> 25:08.000]  Oh, okay.
[25:08.000 --> 25:17.000]  I got four or five cases going and I forget which issue went to which case and sometimes
[25:17.000 --> 25:19.000]  I make a mess of things.
[25:19.000 --> 25:20.000]  Okay.
[25:20.000 --> 25:27.000]  So would you like for me to resend the link to you so you can look back into it if it's
[25:27.000 --> 25:28.000]  necessary?
[25:28.000 --> 25:37.000]  Yeah, I'm looking for where I put your email and I don't see it under Charlene.
[25:37.000 --> 25:42.000]  What was the name on your email, the first name?
[25:42.000 --> 25:47.000]  Oh, you mean my email address or the subject?
[25:47.000 --> 25:51.000]  I'm not sure if I put it under your email.
[25:51.000 --> 25:52.000]  I generally use the name.
[25:52.000 --> 25:56.000]  I might have put it under your mother's name.
[25:56.000 --> 25:57.000]  Oh, okay.
[25:57.000 --> 26:01.000]  Because my email begins with G.
[26:01.000 --> 26:04.000]  Oh, I got it.
[26:04.000 --> 26:05.000]  Call me.
[26:05.000 --> 26:07.000]  I'll get the name spelled wrong.
[26:07.000 --> 26:08.000]  Okay.
[26:08.000 --> 26:10.000]  Also, I sent another email.
[26:10.000 --> 26:11.000]  I apologize.
[26:11.000 --> 26:16.000]  I sent it a few times because a few of it came back when I tried to send it to you.
[26:16.000 --> 26:22.000]  It was a list of questions I had from a prior taping show and I just had-
[26:22.000 --> 26:23.000]  Okay.
[26:23.000 --> 26:24.000]  I have it here.
[26:24.000 --> 26:27.000]  I got the name, your name spelled wrong.
[26:27.000 --> 26:36.000]  This is where your mother got a home equity loan.
[26:36.000 --> 26:37.000]  Okay.
[26:37.000 --> 26:42.000]  Her parents originally owned the property in the Bronx, purchased it in 1998,
[26:42.000 --> 26:47.000]  refinanced the property, led to complications in the mortgage.
[26:47.000 --> 26:58.000]  I have not went to the Bronx website to look up all of the documents filed in there.
[26:58.000 --> 26:59.000]  But from what you told me-
[26:59.000 --> 27:00.000]  Oh, okay.
[27:00.000 --> 27:01.000]  You didn't get around to it.
[27:01.000 --> 27:02.000]  Oh, okay.
[27:02.000 --> 27:03.000]  You didn't get around to it.
[27:03.000 --> 27:04.000]  Oh, okay.
[27:04.000 --> 27:05.000]  Oh.
[27:05.000 --> 27:14.000]  That's what I'm trying to catch up here.
[27:14.000 --> 27:22.000]  You have there, you don't quite have a notice of acceleration yet, do you?
[27:22.000 --> 27:23.000]  No.
[27:23.000 --> 27:24.000]  No.
[27:24.000 --> 27:27.000]  I actually, speaking of that, no, I definitely don't.
[27:27.000 --> 27:35.000]  But I did put in a request with the Freedom of Information Act for the HUD-1 settlement
[27:35.000 --> 27:39.000]  forms.
[27:39.000 --> 27:40.000]  But I don't know.
[27:40.000 --> 27:42.000]  I don't have the notice of acceleration yet.
[27:42.000 --> 27:47.000]  I just wanted to do a few things just in place early before.
[27:47.000 --> 27:57.000]  I have a client on the East Coast and I have you that both can't get hold of the closing
[27:57.000 --> 27:58.000]  documents.
[27:58.000 --> 28:07.000]  So if we can't find the closing documents, I have another way, a way of extrapolating
[28:07.000 --> 28:12.000]  from the numbers to get a determination of what the closing costs were.
[28:12.000 --> 28:14.000]  Oh, okay.
[28:14.000 --> 28:22.000]  If you can't find the HUD-1, they probably can't either.
[28:22.000 --> 28:23.000]  Right.
[28:23.000 --> 28:26.000]  So whatever we say it was-
[28:26.000 --> 28:27.000]  Most likely.
[28:27.000 --> 28:31.000]  The only way they can prove different is to come up with the HUD-1.
[28:31.000 --> 28:37.000]  And if they come up with the HUD-1, that's wonderful for us because then we can, oh yeah,
[28:37.000 --> 28:38.000]  we made a mistake.
[28:38.000 --> 28:44.000]  Here, we'll take this HUD-1 and we'll send it right back at you with one that we can
[28:44.000 --> 28:45.000]  verify.
[28:45.000 --> 28:51.000]  So either they can produce the HUD-1 or they have to argue with us about the claims we
[28:51.000 --> 28:52.000]  make.
[28:52.000 --> 28:53.000]  They have to rebut our claims.
[28:53.000 --> 28:54.000]  Right.
[28:54.000 --> 29:01.000]  Which they probably won't be able to reduce, to produce a HUD-1, I doubt.
[29:01.000 --> 29:02.000]  Right.
[29:02.000 --> 29:05.000]  And this looks like you have Auckland in here.
[29:05.000 --> 29:09.000]  Auckland wasn't the original lender and the original lender is out of business.
[29:09.000 --> 29:14.000]  Kind of the standard thing I tend to find.
[29:14.000 --> 29:23.000]  The original lenders, the banks set these companies up as a tax scam so that the mortgage
[29:23.000 --> 29:31.000]  company writes these profitable predatory loans, sell them to the bank at a loss and
[29:31.000 --> 29:37.000]  use the alleged loss as a reason to file bankruptcy and go out of business.
[29:37.000 --> 29:47.000]  And then they bankrupt out on all of the profits so the bank gets the mortgage and they don't
[29:47.000 --> 29:49.000]  have to pay most of the taxes on it.
[29:49.000 --> 29:56.000]  So they run the mortgage company for a while and then they'll shut it down and open another
[29:56.000 --> 29:57.000]  one.
[29:57.000 --> 30:00.000]  But hang on, we'll be right back.
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[34:08.000 --> 34:09.000]  We are back.
[34:09.000 --> 34:18.000]  Randy Kelton, Rule of Law Radio on this Friday, the 23rd day of September 2016.
[34:18.000 --> 34:21.000]  And we're talking to Charlene in New York.
[34:21.000 --> 34:22.000]  Okay.
[34:22.000 --> 34:26.000]  You had some specific questions?
[34:26.000 --> 34:27.000]  Yes.
[34:27.000 --> 34:31.000]  It was actually, it was in the email I had forwarded.
[34:31.000 --> 34:36.000]  Actually, I forwarded a few times because it kept coming back to my email.
[34:36.000 --> 34:39.000]  It wasn't going through to your email, but...
[34:39.000 --> 34:42.000]  I am having a lot of trouble with Bluehost.
[34:42.000 --> 34:43.000]  That's my server.
[34:43.000 --> 34:50.000]  I'm in the process of migrating all of my websites to another server, but anybody who's
[34:50.000 --> 34:55.000]  ever done that will know this is a, can be a real pain in the rear when you're trying
[34:55.000 --> 35:02.000]  to, especially when you have databases connected to the websites, it gets really involved.
[35:02.000 --> 35:07.000]  So I don't have it all done yet, and I do apologize for the email issue.
[35:07.000 --> 35:09.000]  No problem.
[35:09.000 --> 35:10.000]  Okay.
[35:10.000 --> 35:14.000]  What is the first word in your email address?
[35:14.000 --> 35:16.000]  The first letter?
[35:16.000 --> 35:18.000]  Oh, the first word?
[35:18.000 --> 35:19.000]  Yes.
[35:19.000 --> 35:20.000]  Gains.
[35:20.000 --> 35:21.000]  Okay.
[35:21.000 --> 35:25.000]  And it is in Gainsbrain.
[35:25.000 --> 35:26.000]  Yes.
[35:26.000 --> 35:27.000]  Okay.
[35:27.000 --> 35:28.000]  I did.
[35:28.000 --> 35:29.000]  Hmm.
[35:29.000 --> 35:40.000]  I didn't get a hit on it.
[35:40.000 --> 35:41.000]  This is annoying.
[35:41.000 --> 35:50.000]  My email is, sometimes I think that God so made the world so as to anointing persons.
[35:50.000 --> 35:55.000]  That's how important I think I am.
[35:55.000 --> 35:57.000]  There it is.
[35:57.000 --> 36:00.000]  I spell it right, it works better.
[36:00.000 --> 36:01.000]  Okay.
[36:01.000 --> 36:03.000]  Unanswered questions.
[36:03.000 --> 36:04.000]  Okay.
[36:04.000 --> 36:15.000]  Discuss the statute of limitations in order for foreclosure to take place, and they are
[36:15.000 --> 36:17.000]  different in different states.
[36:17.000 --> 36:19.000]  They vary in different states.
[36:19.000 --> 36:24.000]  Yes, I believe it's six years in New York.
[36:24.000 --> 36:31.000]  I have someone I recently helped to file some documents in New York, and we addressed that
[36:31.000 --> 36:36.000]  issue, and I believe it was six years in New York.
[36:36.000 --> 36:41.000]  Okay.
[36:41.000 --> 36:42.000]  What other questions?
[36:42.000 --> 36:49.000]  It's taking too long to read all this email.
[36:49.000 --> 36:50.000]  Yes.
[36:50.000 --> 36:55.000]  I sent them from the top of my head at the moment.
[36:55.000 --> 37:02.000]  I'm not able to remember, but it was quite a few questions I had put in the email.
[37:02.000 --> 37:07.000]  It was based on my current situation with ACWIN.
[37:07.000 --> 37:18.000]  Basically, my main concern was, is my parent's documentation relevant to ACWIN?
[37:18.000 --> 37:19.000]  Yes.
[37:19.000 --> 37:22.000]  I was just looking at that question right here.
[37:22.000 --> 37:29.000]  How can I prove that the old fraudulent mortgage documents that my parents signed are relevant now?
[37:29.000 --> 37:30.000]  Right.
[37:30.000 --> 37:31.000]  That's the one.
[37:31.000 --> 37:32.000]  That's the main one.
[37:32.000 --> 37:33.000]  Yes.
[37:33.000 --> 37:44.000]  When the lender sends you a demand for payment, the question to him is, who the heck are you?
[37:44.000 --> 37:53.000]  What standing do you have to make a demand for payment in United States dollars?
[37:53.000 --> 38:00.000]  You're not the one that has to prove up the validity of a claim by producing these documents.
[38:00.000 --> 38:05.000]  They have to prove up the validity of the claim by producing these documents.
[38:05.000 --> 38:11.000]  They have to have the note and the security instrument.
[38:11.000 --> 38:21.000]  Once the contract is entered into, the documentation on which it was entered into always stays valid
[38:21.000 --> 38:28.000]  and relevant until the contract is completed.
[38:28.000 --> 38:34.000]  You're not going to have to prove that your parents' documents are valid.
[38:34.000 --> 38:46.000]  They're going to come and try to make claims using documents that you will most likely try to prove are not valid.
[38:46.000 --> 38:52.000]  Not your parents' documents, but the garbage these guys bring to the court.
[38:52.000 --> 38:59.000]  One of the things we've been working hard toward is a way to get them in court
[38:59.000 --> 39:05.000]  and get them past a Rule 12 motion to dismiss for failure to state a claim.
[39:05.000 --> 39:15.000]  Because the one thing they want to avoid, the banks want to avoid more than any other, is discovery.
[39:15.000 --> 39:27.000]  Once we get to discovery, now we get to request information from them that they would necessarily have to have
[39:27.000 --> 39:38.000]  in order to prove up a complete chain of title and holder status for their alleged principal.
[39:38.000 --> 39:42.000]  And that's the one thing they can't do.
[39:42.000 --> 39:48.000]  So they fight like a tiger to avoid ever getting to discovery.
[39:48.000 --> 39:57.000]  So what we tend to do now is file a petition for declaratory judgment.
[39:57.000 --> 40:00.000]  We have been filing quiet titles.
[40:00.000 --> 40:09.000]  They tend to remove the quiet title to the federal court, and the federal court dismisses it out of hand no matter what.
[40:09.000 --> 40:19.000]  So we try to find a way to get past the district judge, the federal district judge, who they seem to be bought and paid for,
[40:19.000 --> 40:24.000]  and get our issues to the Court of Appeals.
[40:24.000 --> 40:33.000]  If we go in with a well-crafted and finely focused petition for declaratory judgment,
[40:33.000 --> 40:40.000]  what we really want to happen is to get past the motion to dismiss.
[40:40.000 --> 40:41.000]  Right.
[40:41.000 --> 40:52.000]  And what the Rule 12 says is the motion, the plaintiff will move to dismiss for failure to state a claim on which recovery can be had.
[40:52.000 --> 40:57.000]  A petition for declaratory judgment does not ask for discovery.
[40:57.000 --> 41:09.000]  I filed criminal charges against Judge McBride in Fort Worth because I filed a petition for declaratory judgment.
[41:09.000 --> 41:14.000]  And in the form of a quiet title, they removed it to the federal court.
[41:14.000 --> 41:20.000]  Judge McBride dismissed with prejudice out of hand Sue Sponte.
[41:20.000 --> 41:29.000]  For the stated reason that I failed to make a claim on which recovery can be had.
[41:29.000 --> 41:31.000]  Well, duh.
[41:31.000 --> 41:34.000]  This was a declaratory judgment suit.
[41:34.000 --> 41:43.000]  Of course I failed to make a state of claim for which recovery can be had because I didn't ask for any recovery.
[41:43.000 --> 41:51.000]  I asked for a statement of the rights of the parties and nothing else.
[41:51.000 --> 41:59.000]  So he filed that dismissal the same day I non-suited the case.
[41:59.000 --> 42:04.000]  And I filed criminal charges against him anyway.
[42:04.000 --> 42:19.000]  The reason I non-suited was that the lender in their Rule 12 motion to dismiss for failure to state a claim, the first part was just a bunch of blah, blah, blah nonsense.
[42:19.000 --> 42:33.000]  The second part, the defendant said that the court should dismiss the case because Wells Fargo was not the lender.
[42:33.000 --> 42:37.000]  Say what?
[42:37.000 --> 42:40.000]  I couldn't believe he put that in there.
[42:40.000 --> 42:45.000]  Well, maybe they're not the lender, but they're the servicer.
[42:45.000 --> 42:48.000]  And as the servicer, they're the agent for the lender.
[42:48.000 --> 42:51.000]  So they stand in the shoes of the lender.
[42:51.000 --> 42:55.000]  I think the lawyer didn't quite understand that point.
[42:55.000 --> 43:07.000]  So he screwed up big time by stating that they weren't the lender, essentially saying they had no standing before the mortgage.
[43:07.000 --> 43:09.000]  Really?
[43:09.000 --> 43:14.000]  I thought a servicer has a legal authority on this.
[43:14.000 --> 43:17.000]  Yeah, he's the agent for the lender.
[43:17.000 --> 43:20.000]  So he is the representative for the lender.
[43:20.000 --> 43:21.000]  So he screwed up.
[43:21.000 --> 43:23.000]  So how do I catch him at it?
[43:23.000 --> 43:27.000]  I don't want him to have an opportunity to fix it.
[43:27.000 --> 43:29.000]  So I non-suit it immediately.
[43:29.000 --> 43:31.000]  Oh, my goodness.
[43:31.000 --> 43:32.000]  I'm terribly sorry.
[43:32.000 --> 43:34.000]  I must have sued the wrong party.
[43:34.000 --> 43:36.000]  I non-suit.
[43:36.000 --> 43:38.000]  That traps him.
[43:38.000 --> 43:40.000]  And now he's subject to collateral estoppel.
[43:40.000 --> 43:41.000]  We're about to get a break.
[43:41.000 --> 43:43.000]  I'll pick this up on the other side.
[43:43.000 --> 43:50.000]  Randy Kelton, the Rule of Law Radio, a call in number 512-646-1984.
[43:50.000 --> 43:54.000]  We'll be right back.
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[46:25.000 --> 46:34.000]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton with Rule of Law Radio, and we're talking to Cardin in New York.
[46:34.000 --> 46:37.000]  Okay.
[46:37.000 --> 46:45.000]  Anyway, what we did was I non-suited it in order to keep the lawyer from being able to correct his error.
[46:45.000 --> 46:51.000]  The same day I non-suited it, the judge dismissed with prejudice.
[46:51.000 --> 46:58.000]  So even though it served my purpose, what the judge did was improper,
[46:58.000 --> 47:05.000]  and I went down and filed criminal charges against him for it.
[47:05.000 --> 47:11.000]  And it seemed to have gotten his attention because some subsequent cases with pro se,
[47:11.000 --> 47:17.000]  where all of the other judges, when they would remove an eviction case to the Fed,
[47:17.000 --> 47:22.000]  the federal judges would remand it the next day.
[47:22.000 --> 47:26.000]  Well, right after I filed criminal charges against McBride,
[47:26.000 --> 47:35.000]  a friend of mine removed an eviction case to the Fed, and McBride got it, and he did not remand it.
[47:35.000 --> 47:38.000]  So maybe we got his attention.
[47:38.000 --> 47:40.000]  Maybe not.
[47:40.000 --> 47:51.000]  But in any case, if you file any claim, the judges just seem to be bought and paid for.
[47:51.000 --> 48:00.000]  It doesn't make any difference how well you document or support your claim.
[48:00.000 --> 48:09.000]  The other side is going to file a Rule 12, and the judge will grant the Rule 12 out of hand.
[48:09.000 --> 48:12.000]  So we have another strategy for that.
[48:12.000 --> 48:18.000]  And as to your question, you don't have to worry about the documentation being valid.
[48:18.000 --> 48:22.000]  The other side has to worry about that.
[48:22.000 --> 48:23.000]  Right.
[48:23.000 --> 48:27.000]  Oh, because I felt like we will have to, the side that's being foreclosed on,
[48:27.000 --> 48:36.000]  will have to sort of prove how that's valid to the present debt that's owed in property.
[48:36.000 --> 48:37.000]  No, no, no, no.
[48:37.000 --> 48:42.000]  The one being foreclosed on doesn't have to prove anything.
[48:42.000 --> 48:47.000]  The other side is the one that has to prove.
[48:47.000 --> 48:57.000]  And that's where they have the problem, and that's where we take them on, is they're the one making the claim.
[48:57.000 --> 49:00.000]  So they're the ones that have to prove up the claim.
[49:00.000 --> 49:06.000]  You dispute the claim, and they have to prove it up.
[49:06.000 --> 49:15.000]  And we're looking at ways of putting them in a position to where we can get to discovery.
[49:15.000 --> 49:21.000]  If you file a wrongful foreclosure suit, the courts are going to throw that out no matter what.
[49:21.000 --> 49:23.000]  It's just what they do.
[49:23.000 --> 49:26.000]  So they will ignore it.
[49:26.000 --> 49:34.000]  But if you file a declaratory judgment suit, that's a different can of worms.
[49:34.000 --> 49:46.000]  Now you're asking the court to do primarily what it does, is issue rulings strictly on points of law.
[49:46.000 --> 49:50.000]  And we're asking the court to declare the rights of the parties.
[49:50.000 --> 49:57.000]  This is not something subject to summary dismissal.
[49:57.000 --> 50:03.000]  You know, they can complain that you didn't ask the correct question or you didn't ask a question in a way that could be answered.
[50:03.000 --> 50:12.000]  There are some complaints they would make, but none of those subject the suit to summary dismissal.
[50:12.000 --> 50:21.000]  So we're trying to stick them in the courts just to get past that first pleading.
[50:21.000 --> 50:28.000]  The first thing the other side has to do is either file a motion to dismiss or file an answer.
[50:28.000 --> 50:36.000]  If they file a motion to dismiss, it stops the clock on their duty to file an answer.
[50:36.000 --> 50:41.000]  Because a motion to dismiss is a dispositive motion.
[50:41.000 --> 50:47.000]  It would dispose of the case and there would be no reason to write an answer.
[50:47.000 --> 50:52.000]  So when they file the Rule 12, it keeps them from having to answer any of the allegations.
[50:52.000 --> 50:57.000]  Because if they try to answer the allegations, the only thing they can do is lie about it.
[50:57.000 --> 50:59.000]  Because they did everything wrong.
[50:59.000 --> 51:05.000]  They don't need to go in there and say, oh, we did it right, we did it right, and then have it proved that they didn't.
[51:05.000 --> 51:09.000]  Because now you can come back after them for lying to the court.
[51:09.000 --> 51:11.000]  They do not want to answer.
[51:11.000 --> 51:14.000]  So the first thing you do is hit the Rule 12.
[51:14.000 --> 51:21.000]  But if you do a declaratory judgment, there's no grounds for Rule 12.
[51:21.000 --> 51:26.000]  But as with Judge McBride, he didn't care.
[51:26.000 --> 51:31.000]  It was a pro se litigate and he's going to dismiss it no matter what.
[51:31.000 --> 51:33.000]  So it worked for me.
[51:33.000 --> 51:39.000]  Well, I also had a challenge as a subject matter of jurisdiction.
[51:39.000 --> 51:42.000]  The other side didn't respond to it.
[51:42.000 --> 51:50.000]  So the judge had a duty to accept my statements of lack of jurisdiction as true.
[51:50.000 --> 51:55.000]  Not as prima facie, but as true.
[51:55.000 --> 51:57.000]  And he did the opposite.
[51:57.000 --> 52:02.000]  So he kind of stepped in the middle of it that time.
[52:02.000 --> 52:06.000]  And I'm still in the process of working him over.
[52:06.000 --> 52:10.000]  I took the complaints down and he wouldn't let me speak to a magistrate.
[52:10.000 --> 52:12.000]  They sent me to the clerk.
[52:12.000 --> 52:17.000]  That was the guards in the courthouse, the guys with the guns.
[52:17.000 --> 52:19.000]  I couldn't argue with them.
[52:19.000 --> 52:26.000]  And the clerk took it on the condition that it be presented to some magistrate.
[52:26.000 --> 52:30.000]  Two weeks later, he sent it back to me.
[52:30.000 --> 52:33.000]  That'll work.
[52:33.000 --> 52:37.000]  I call that pampering with a government document.
[52:37.000 --> 52:43.000]  I want to know who told him to send that back to me.
[52:43.000 --> 52:52.000]  The reason I want to know that is whoever told him that gave him legal advice.
[52:52.000 --> 52:59.000]  And when you're giving legal advice, you're not a judge.
[52:59.000 --> 53:04.000]  No immunity, zero.
[53:04.000 --> 53:16.000]  So I'm going to file against the federal court clerk with a state grand jury.
[53:16.000 --> 53:21.000]  Since I live in Wise County, Texas, I get to file in Wise County.
[53:21.000 --> 53:26.000]  I just told my prosecutor, I filed criminal charges against my district judge.
[53:26.000 --> 53:32.000]  First degree felony aggravated assault because he had a bane of touch me.
[53:32.000 --> 53:39.000]  Well, prosecutor agreed to take my complaints and give them to the grand jury, and he didn't.
[53:39.000 --> 53:41.000]  So I went and got them back from him.
[53:41.000 --> 53:47.000]  And I will go next month and give them to the grand jury myself.
[53:47.000 --> 53:56.000]  And then I told him the month after that, I will be bringing him another test case.
[53:56.000 --> 54:03.000]  And this test case is to test grand jury venue.
[54:03.000 --> 54:15.000]  A magistrate in the state of Texas can hear any complaint as a felony or misdemeanor state or federal,
[54:15.000 --> 54:18.000]  make a determination of probable cause,
[54:18.000 --> 54:24.000]  and then send that determination to the clerk of the court of original jurisdiction.
[54:24.000 --> 54:30.000]  I maintain that a grand jury can do the same thing.
[54:30.000 --> 54:33.000]  Because a magistrate essentially holds an examining trial,
[54:33.000 --> 54:35.000]  makes a determination of probable cause.
[54:35.000 --> 54:39.000]  That's what a grand jury does, essentially the same thing.
[54:39.000 --> 54:46.000]  So what I'm going to maintain is that while a grand jury is impaneled in every county,
[54:46.000 --> 54:55.000]  there is nothing in state law that indicates that a grand jury is anything other than a state grand jury,
[54:55.000 --> 54:58.000]  not a county grand jury.
[54:58.000 --> 55:00.000]  And they have statewide jurisdiction.
[55:00.000 --> 55:08.000]  So now I take my complaint to the local state grand jury.
[55:08.000 --> 55:18.000]  And the argument I make for their jurisdiction is that the judge is in a federal courthouse,
[55:18.000 --> 55:22.000]  not a federal enclave.
[55:22.000 --> 55:29.000]  The only place where the federal government has exclusive jurisdiction is property
[55:29.000 --> 55:34.000]  that has been ceded to the federal government.
[55:34.000 --> 55:38.000]  And that's whatever property has been ceded to the federal government
[55:38.000 --> 55:43.000]  now belongs to the federal government and is a part of Washington, D.C., essentially,
[55:43.000 --> 55:45.000]  or it's a part of the federal government.
[55:45.000 --> 55:47.000]  It's no longer a part of the state.
[55:47.000 --> 55:52.000]  The only two places in Texas where that's been done are two federal prisons.
[55:52.000 --> 55:56.000]  And that was done so that the feds could hire their own prison guards
[55:56.000 --> 56:03.000]  and didn't have to use officers with local jurisdiction.
[56:03.000 --> 56:10.000]  So that courthouse don't belong to the feds, belongs to the state, at least from the state.
[56:10.000 --> 56:12.000]  So the judge is in the state.
[56:12.000 --> 56:15.000]  He's not in the fed.
[56:15.000 --> 56:23.000]  And if he commits a common law crime, he does so in the state, and he's subject to state jurisdiction.
[56:23.000 --> 56:27.000]  That should get their attention.
[56:27.000 --> 56:34.000]  When the feds realize that they don't have the U.S. attorney to run interference for them,
[56:34.000 --> 56:41.000]  you see, I filed this complaint with the federal district clerk,
[56:41.000 --> 56:49.000]  and I haven't heard from the U.S. attorney's office or the FBI or anybody else.
[56:49.000 --> 56:51.000]  So nobody picked it up.
[56:51.000 --> 56:54.000]  Nobody came to me and said, you can't do this.
[56:54.000 --> 57:02.000]  They're trying to pretend like it's not there because I believe they see it as a hot potato.
[57:02.000 --> 57:04.000]  Anyway, that's off topic.
[57:04.000 --> 57:07.000]  Do you have any other questions for us, Carly?
[57:07.000 --> 57:08.000]  Yes, I do.
[57:08.000 --> 57:14.000]  Actually, another question also that's important that I want to know is,
[57:14.000 --> 57:20.000]  because I'm hearing that just because it's a defaulted loan for five years
[57:20.000 --> 57:24.000]  it hasn't been paid, that the servicer has a right to be paid, is that true?
[57:24.000 --> 57:27.000]  Do they have a right to be paid by law?
[57:27.000 --> 57:29.000]  I'm hearing that they...
[57:29.000 --> 57:42.000]  Well, if they can prove it, if the servicer is the bona fide holder of the debt instrument
[57:42.000 --> 57:49.000]  or is the proper agent for the bona fide holder.
[57:49.000 --> 57:58.000]  Yeah, he does have a right to be paid, but he has to prove that position up first.
[57:58.000 --> 58:03.000]  He doesn't have a right to be paid just because he came and knocked on your door and said,
[58:03.000 --> 58:06.000]  hey, you've got a mortgage.
[58:06.000 --> 58:10.000]  I want you to pay me for your mortgage.
[58:10.000 --> 58:14.000]  Your question is going to be, who the heck are you?
[58:14.000 --> 58:18.000]  Get lost.
[58:18.000 --> 58:21.000]  You're claiming that you have a right to be paid?
[58:21.000 --> 58:25.000]  Prove it.
[58:25.000 --> 58:26.000]  Right.
[58:26.000 --> 58:30.000]  That is the hardest thing for them to do.
[58:30.000 --> 58:31.000]  Right.
[58:31.000 --> 58:32.000]  Okay, hang on.
[58:32.000 --> 58:36.000]  About to go to break and I won't take up so much time next time.
[58:36.000 --> 58:37.000]  Hang on.
[58:37.000 --> 58:40.000]  Steve, Mark, Danny, we'll get to everybody.
[58:40.000 --> 58:50.000]  We'll be right back.
[59:10.000 --> 59:20.000]  We'll be right back.
[59:40.000 --> 01:00:00.000]  We'll be right back.
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[01:00:57.000 --> 01:01:08.000]  In recent news, Ahmad Kam Rahami, the man sought by state investigators for possible connections to the detonating of some explosives in the dumpster in Manhattan and on a route in Seaside Park, New Jersey,
[01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:13.000]  and in a backpack which was detonated by police around a train station in Elizabeth, got into a shootout with local PD.
[01:01:13.000 --> 01:01:24.000]  Police and FBI had announced early Monday that they were seeking Rahami in connection with the bombings in the Chelsea District when, as Lyndon Police Captain James Sarniki told local NBC affiliates,
[01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:29.000]  officers were responding to a call about a person sleeping in a doorway of a local bar turned out to be him.
[01:01:29.000 --> 01:01:35.000]  When approaching, the officers noticed his resemblance to the wanted bulletin, and they then ordered him to show his hands.
[01:01:35.000 --> 01:01:39.000]  Rahami pulled out a handgun and fired a shot at the officer, striking him in the abdomen.
[01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:45.000]  Luckily, most of the round was stopped by a protective vest. The officer returned fire, but Rahami simply walked away.
[01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:50.000]  He was eventually shot down the street by several police officers, where again shots were exchanged.
[01:01:50.000 --> 01:01:55.000]  He was taken away in an ambulance to University Hospital in Newark, where his condition is still unknown.
[01:01:55.000 --> 01:01:58.000]  We have every reason to believe this was an act of terror.
[01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:05.000]  Mayor of New York Bill Belasio said in a news conference, also stating that investigators are not seeking any other individuals at the moment.
[01:02:05.000 --> 01:02:10.000]  That is, even though apparently, according to the FBI, Rahami's role in the explosives remains unknown,
[01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:17.000]  even though he was carrying a notebook containing his pro-jihadist writings, including a reference to the slain al-Qaeda terrorist Anwar al-Waqi,
[01:02:17.000 --> 01:02:23.000]  and notes about killing the kufar, or unbeliever, as was stated by law enforcement to the Times.
[01:02:23.000 --> 01:02:29.000]  The FBI didn't disclose whether the five people taken into custody Sunday night and later released were linked to Rahami,
[01:02:29.000 --> 01:02:32.000]  or how Rahami and his family fit into all of it,
[01:02:32.000 --> 01:02:38.000]  and it was reported yesterday by the New York Times that his father told authorities two years ago that his son was a terrorist.
[01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:43.000]  As of Monday, Ahmed has been charged with five counts of attempted murder on law enforcement officers
[01:02:43.000 --> 01:02:46.000]  and two second-degree counts of his ownership of a handgun.
[01:02:46.000 --> 01:02:52.000]  The bill has been set at $5.2 million by State Superior Judge.
[01:02:52.000 --> 01:03:17.000]  This is Rick Roady with your Lowdown for September 21, 2016.
[01:03:17.000 --> 01:03:23.000]  Okay, we are back. You're ready to help him. You're talking to Rahami in New York.
[01:03:23.000 --> 01:03:26.000]  Any other questions for me?
[01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:33.000]  Yes. Now, Akwin is the current servicer, and I basically did some research,
[01:03:33.000 --> 01:03:41.000]  and it has mentioned that Akwin will own the servicing rights, and it buys the rights to service the loans issued by banks.
[01:03:41.000 --> 01:03:47.000]  So with that said, does that mean that they own the loan? They have the rights to the loan?
[01:03:47.000 --> 01:03:59.000]  No, no. All they are is a company that's been hired to collect the money for whoever does own the loan, supposedly.
[01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:05.000]  You don't know who owns the loan, and that's always the problem.
[01:04:05.000 --> 01:04:14.000]  For the most part, nobody knows who owns the loan, so Akwin has to do this little song and dance
[01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:22.000]  and get the court to let them to collect on this loan just because they said they held it.
[01:04:22.000 --> 01:04:28.000]  And if it's not established directly in the public record,
[01:04:28.000 --> 01:04:39.000]  and they can't prove that whoever holds the loan at this time holds the loan and the deed of trust,
[01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:45.000]  what they say is, under Carpenter Longin, is that the deed of trust follows the mortgage.
[01:04:45.000 --> 01:04:53.000]  Okay. Well, a claim under a deed of trust must be filed in the public record.
[01:04:53.000 --> 01:05:06.000]  So we don't care if you hold it. We don't care if you are the holder of the dead instrument.
[01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:13.000]  Carpenter Longin would say, if you are the holder of the dead instrument, then you're also the holder of the mortgage.
[01:05:13.000 --> 01:05:23.000]  Well, if you hold the mortgage and you didn't file your claim based on the mortgage with the county recorder,
[01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:30.000]  you can use your claim for toilet paper. You can't enforce it.
[01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:40.000]  Now, you can enforce the security, I'm sorry, you can enforce the provisions of the promissory note.
[01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:46.000]  But if you haven't properly maintained the chain of title,
[01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:53.000]  you cannot exercise a claim against the property contained in the mortgage, in the security instrument.
[01:05:53.000 --> 01:05:57.000]  Because of the title? Because of the chain of title?
[01:05:57.000 --> 01:06:03.000]  Yeah, because you breached the covenants of the mortgage instrument,
[01:06:03.000 --> 01:06:10.000]  one of which is the lender agreed to abide by all standing law.
[01:06:10.000 --> 01:06:17.000]  And the Real Estate Mortgage, Real Estate Settlement Procedures Act requires that any change of beneficial interest
[01:06:17.000 --> 01:06:25.000]  in the mortgage instrument be noticed to the borrower.
[01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:30.000]  And they fail to give you that notice because you don't know who holds the beneficial interest.
[01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:37.000]  So you don't care. You don't care. You don't know who it is. You weren't noticed.
[01:06:37.000 --> 01:06:45.000]  You granted a privilege in the mortgage instrument.
[01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:51.000]  You granted a privilege of a claim against the property.
[01:06:51.000 --> 01:07:01.000]  If I give you a loan and you sign a promise to pay and you don't pay, I can sue you.
[01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:05.000]  Well, the bank said, that's not good enough.
[01:07:05.000 --> 01:07:10.000]  Since we're giving you this loan so that you can purchase this property over here,
[01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:16.000]  we want you to also write us a lien against that property.
[01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:18.000]  So that's how the mortgage works.
[01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:29.000]  Well, you wrote the lien and granted the lender a claim against the property under certain conditions.
[01:07:29.000 --> 01:07:32.000]  But the lender breached those conditions.
[01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:38.000]  They can't come now and claim the lien against the property.
[01:07:38.000 --> 01:07:44.000]  If you look at a mechanics lien, you won't find any of that nonsense language.
[01:07:44.000 --> 01:07:52.000]  And that's because a mechanics lien is a direct claim based on time or materials,
[01:07:52.000 --> 01:07:57.000]  if it's a material man's lien, based on materials put into the property.
[01:07:57.000 --> 01:08:04.000]  And there, there are no reporting requirements. But the mortgage is different.
[01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:17.000]  There were specific conditions that the lender had to meet in order to be able to exercise the privilege in the mortgage instrument.
[01:08:17.000 --> 01:08:19.000]  They didn't do that.
[01:08:19.000 --> 01:08:28.000]  Now, they still have a claim against you or they have a claim against your mother and the estate.
[01:08:28.000 --> 01:08:32.000]  Unless your mother and father passed, so now the estate moves to the heirs.
[01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:38.000]  They have a claim against the estate, but not the property.
[01:08:38.000 --> 01:08:42.000]  Oh, okay. So it's not the, oh, I just thought it was the same thing.
[01:08:42.000 --> 01:08:50.000]  Yes. So they have to sue the estate and then get a judgment and then go to the court
[01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:56.000]  and ask that judge, the court to apply that judgment to the property
[01:08:56.000 --> 01:09:02.000]  so that they can liquidate the property and recover the judgment.
[01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:06.000]  With a mortgage, they can do essentially an in rim.
[01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:09.000]  The in rim suit is where you sue the property.
[01:09:09.000 --> 01:09:15.000]  So they get to bypass one step in the process and they need to be able to bypass it
[01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:19.000]  because if they sue you, you can sell the property in the meantime.
[01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:24.000]  The only thing that keeps you from selling the property is the mortgage.
[01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:26.000]  But they breached it. Right.
[01:09:26.000 --> 01:09:28.000]  And that'll be your claim.
[01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:33.000]  So that's the position you want to take is they breached this mortgage, they can't collect on it.
[01:09:33.000 --> 01:09:39.000]  And if you can get the court to rule that they breached the mortgage, then you file bankruptcy.
[01:09:39.000 --> 01:09:47.000]  You bankrupt the estate and the lender comes to the estate with an unsecured mortgage
[01:09:47.000 --> 01:09:52.000]  or with an unsecured loan.
[01:09:52.000 --> 01:09:54.000]  That's why you want to go after that mortgage.
[01:09:54.000 --> 01:09:59.000]  You get that mortgage declared void because they failed to do the proper assignments.
[01:09:59.000 --> 01:10:07.000]  Now the mortgage, once the mortgage is void, they no longer have the claim against the property.
[01:10:07.000 --> 01:10:14.000]  So you can drop another lien on the property and that protects the property from this lender.
[01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:19.000]  Now they can only sue you or sue the estate in this case.
[01:10:19.000 --> 01:10:26.000]  And if you bankrupt the estate, they got nothing.
[01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:27.000]  Right.
[01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:30.000]  Because they're not filed in the county records.
[01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:33.000]  I don't see awkward near.
[01:10:33.000 --> 01:10:41.000]  And also I did when I had analysis done on my parents' mortgage, I was informed that the mortgage was void.
[01:10:41.000 --> 01:10:44.000]  I didn't know what that means, still don't a little bit.
[01:10:44.000 --> 01:10:47.000]  It said that the mortgage was voided on the property.
[01:10:47.000 --> 01:10:50.000]  So I didn't understand and there was an unsecured.
[01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:53.000]  Yeah, that would, you have to be careful with that.
[01:10:53.000 --> 01:11:00.000]  That would depend on who is saying it and the mortgage.
[01:11:00.000 --> 01:11:03.000]  What does the mean?
[01:11:03.000 --> 01:11:09.000]  We want to be sure that, you know, sometimes we look in the record and we see a release of lien.
[01:11:09.000 --> 01:11:14.000]  Then we say, oh goody, they released the claim, they released the mortgage.
[01:11:14.000 --> 01:11:20.000]  But you'll generally find those when you do a refinance.
[01:11:20.000 --> 01:11:21.000]  Right.
[01:11:21.000 --> 01:11:30.000]  So the original mortgage, if there was a refinance, they'll file a release of the original lien.
[01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:38.000]  But they'll follow that with filing a new lien, a new deed of trust.
[01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:39.000]  Okay, yeah.
[01:11:39.000 --> 01:11:42.000]  That was definitely because they had a bank down to refinance.
[01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:43.000]  That's what would happen.
[01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:48.000]  Yeah, so that's probably why someone looked at this and said this mortgage is void.
[01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:56.000]  And you probably interpreted that to mean the current mortgage is void when it really meant
[01:11:56.000 --> 01:12:00.000]  that the original mortgage or the prior mortgage was void.
[01:12:00.000 --> 01:12:03.000]  Right, right, the prior, right.
[01:12:03.000 --> 01:12:08.000]  So as soon as I get all of the documents from the public record, I can look at them
[01:12:08.000 --> 01:12:13.000]  and I'll tell you which one's void and I can show you how to go after them.
[01:12:13.000 --> 01:12:14.000]  Do you have any other questions?
[01:12:14.000 --> 01:12:16.000]  When you're able to.
[01:12:16.000 --> 01:12:18.000]  Yes, I did have one more.
[01:12:18.000 --> 01:12:19.000]  It's been linked.
[01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:24.000]  When you had mentioned about a claim for declaratory judgment, so when someone filed,
[01:12:24.000 --> 01:12:30.000]  when a claim for a declaratory judgment is filed, do they file that following a notice of
[01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:33.000]  rescission or is that something totally separate?
[01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:35.000]  That's separate.
[01:12:35.000 --> 01:12:44.000]  Now, we'll file one based on rescission, but we need a notice of acceleration before we
[01:12:44.000 --> 01:12:49.000]  can file the qualified written request with notice of rescission in it.
[01:12:49.000 --> 01:12:54.000]  There are two opportunities to rescind under the Truth in Lending Act.
[01:12:54.000 --> 01:13:04.000]  Under 15 U.S. Code 1635-G, you can rescind a mortgage within three years of its inception
[01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:10.000]  if the lender failed to give you notice that you could rescind it.
[01:13:10.000 --> 01:13:12.000]  That's what Jasenowski was about.
[01:13:12.000 --> 01:13:16.000]  But there's another provision for rescission.
[01:13:16.000 --> 01:13:25.000]  After notice of acceleration, after the foreclosure process is initiated, if you can show
[01:13:25.000 --> 01:13:35.000]  more than $35 of unreported fees, then your right to rescind is reinvigorated.
[01:13:35.000 --> 01:13:39.000]  That's why it's so important to find that HUD-1 settlement statement.
[01:13:39.000 --> 01:13:44.000]  We'll claim all the fees on the HUD-1 settlement statement were falsely reported, and that
[01:13:44.000 --> 01:13:50.000]  gets us well past the $35 and we file a notice of rescission.
[01:13:50.000 --> 01:13:51.000]  Oh, okay.
[01:13:51.000 --> 01:13:54.000]  So that has, so basically it's one of the other...
[01:13:54.000 --> 01:13:55.000]  Wait, hold on, hold on.
[01:13:55.000 --> 01:14:03.000]  Once the time limit for them to rescind has ran, then we will file a petition for declaratory
[01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:12.000]  judgment and ask the court to say that the lender may retain the property with no further
[01:14:12.000 --> 01:14:18.000]  obligation because the borrower, I'm sorry, the borrower may retain the property because
[01:14:18.000 --> 01:14:25.000]  the lender failed to act in accordance with 1635 I.
[01:14:25.000 --> 01:14:33.000]  They got 20 days in which to rescind the mortgage and recover the property or file an opposition
[01:14:33.000 --> 01:14:35.000]  in the court.
[01:14:35.000 --> 01:14:40.000]  If they fail to do either, after 20 days, the borrower may retain the property with
[01:14:40.000 --> 01:14:42.000]  no further obligation.
[01:14:42.000 --> 01:14:48.000]  So, we ask the court to rule that this circumstance has occurred.
[01:14:48.000 --> 01:14:54.000]  So, that's the, we would do a declaratory judgment in that case, but we're not up to
[01:14:54.000 --> 01:14:55.000]  that yet.
[01:14:55.000 --> 01:15:03.000]  What we'll do first is we look at Aquin and we ask the court to rule that there is no
[01:15:03.000 --> 01:15:13.000]  document in the public record which shows that Aquin or Aquin's alleged principle has
[01:15:13.000 --> 01:15:21.000]  standing to enforce the mortgage, strictly by what's in the public record.
[01:15:21.000 --> 01:15:26.000]  A real easy question for the judge to answer.
[01:15:26.000 --> 01:15:32.000]  All he has to do is look in the public record and see if he sees a complete chain of title.
[01:15:32.000 --> 01:15:37.000]  If he doesn't see a complete chain of title, makes no difference.
[01:15:37.000 --> 01:15:44.000]  Your question is, is there a complete chain of title to Aquin?
[01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:52.000]  Showing under New York law that Aquin has standing to enforce the provisions of the
[01:15:52.000 --> 01:15:54.000]  mortgage instrument.
[01:15:54.000 --> 01:15:56.000]  In Texas, you have a similar statute.
[01:15:56.000 --> 01:16:02.000]  I don't have it memorized for New York, but in Texas, the statute says, and all of them
[01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:04.000]  essentially say the same thing.
[01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:12.000]  It says, any claim against real property not properly acknowledged or proven and filed
[01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:17.000]  in the public record is void as to the holder.
[01:16:17.000 --> 01:16:20.000]  So, you see, we don't care what they hold.
[01:16:20.000 --> 01:16:24.000]  If they haven't properly filed it in the record, they can use it as toilet paper.
[01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:29.000]  And we're going to ask the judge to rule that they did not properly file it in the
[01:16:29.000 --> 01:16:30.000]  public record.
[01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:34.000]  And that's all we want to do.
[01:16:34.000 --> 01:16:35.000]  All right.
[01:16:35.000 --> 01:16:36.000]  We get that.
[01:16:36.000 --> 01:16:38.000]  We've got rest judicata.
[01:16:38.000 --> 01:16:43.000]  Then we come back and petition the court for our cease and desist.
[01:16:43.000 --> 01:16:44.000]  Hang on.
[01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:45.000]  About to go to break.
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[01:19:35.000 --> 01:19:37.000]  Randy Kelton, Rule of Law Radio.
[01:19:37.000 --> 01:19:40.000]  We're talking to Charlene in New York.
[01:19:40.000 --> 01:19:51.000]  And we were talking about Linder having to file his claim in the public record.
[01:19:51.000 --> 01:20:01.000]  In 1635, the pilgrims that landed at Plymouth put together a property registry.
[01:20:01.000 --> 01:20:05.000]  That's how important they considered that to be.
[01:20:05.000 --> 01:20:14.000]  The very first settlers here put together a registry where you could file your claim against property.
[01:20:14.000 --> 01:20:23.000]  Every state has a requirement that if you have a claim against property, you must file it in the public record.
[01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:28.000]  And that's so that, say you want to sell me your property.
[01:20:28.000 --> 01:20:33.000]  I say, okay, or you want me to work on your property and you don't have the money to pay me,
[01:20:33.000 --> 01:20:40.000]  so you want me to take a mechanics lien against the property as security for your payment.
[01:20:40.000 --> 01:20:49.000]  So I say, okay, first thing I'm going to do is go down and look in the public record and see if there is a prior claim.
[01:20:49.000 --> 01:20:59.000]  If I don't find a prior claim, you bet, I'll take a lien against your property in lieu of immediate payment.
[01:20:59.000 --> 01:21:04.000]  So say I go down there and I check in the record and I don't find a claim.
[01:21:04.000 --> 01:21:10.000]  And I file my claim and then six months later somebody else comes along and says, hey, wait a minute, wait a minute.
[01:21:10.000 --> 01:21:16.000]  You can't collect your claim because I got one first.
[01:21:16.000 --> 01:21:23.000]  If that were the case, no one in his right mind would buy real property in the United States.
[01:21:23.000 --> 01:21:28.000]  Because there would be no way to tell if somebody else had a claim against it.
[01:21:28.000 --> 01:21:35.000]  So every state has a law that says if you have a claim against real property, you have to make it public.
[01:21:35.000 --> 01:21:40.000]  You have to file it in the public record so that anybody can find it.
[01:21:40.000 --> 01:21:44.000]  Does that make sense, Carlene?
[01:21:44.000 --> 01:21:45.000]  Wow.
[01:21:45.000 --> 01:21:47.000]  See, that's the claim we make.
[01:21:47.000 --> 01:21:51.000]  Not that they, we're not saying you don't have a claim.
[01:21:51.000 --> 01:21:59.000]  We're saying you didn't bother to file it in the record so you can't bring that claim.
[01:21:59.000 --> 01:22:00.000]  Right.
[01:22:00.000 --> 01:22:01.000]  Because it's not there.
[01:22:01.000 --> 01:22:03.000]  I don't see anything to mark with.
[01:22:03.000 --> 01:22:08.000]  But I'm hearing that they have the right, all the rights to collect.
[01:22:08.000 --> 01:22:11.000]  Oh, they're going to tell you that, sure.
[01:22:11.000 --> 01:22:16.000]  If I was trying to collect your mortgage, I would assure you I had the right to collect.
[01:22:16.000 --> 01:22:22.000]  And so your question to them is, prove it.
[01:22:22.000 --> 01:22:25.000]  So can they sue me as an heir?
[01:22:25.000 --> 01:22:30.000]  Because I'm also hearing that Aquin can sue me.
[01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:32.000]  Not exactly you.
[01:22:32.000 --> 01:22:36.000]  They can sue the estate.
[01:22:36.000 --> 01:22:38.000]  They can't sue you.
[01:22:38.000 --> 01:22:41.000]  You have said that they're after the estate, not the property.
[01:22:41.000 --> 01:22:44.000]  Because I was slightly confused.
[01:22:44.000 --> 01:22:49.000]  But the property is part of the estate.
[01:22:49.000 --> 01:22:50.000]  Right.
[01:22:50.000 --> 01:22:55.000]  And they would have to sue the estate.
[01:22:55.000 --> 01:22:58.000]  Oh, they're suing the...
[01:22:58.000 --> 01:23:02.000]  Yeah, they would have, they'll have to sue to foreclose.
[01:23:02.000 --> 01:23:03.000]  Right.
[01:23:03.000 --> 01:23:06.000]  And good luck with that, Bubba.
[01:23:06.000 --> 01:23:08.000]  We'll see how that works out for you.
[01:23:08.000 --> 01:23:14.000]  Because the first thing you'll do is file a challenge subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:23:14.000 --> 01:23:17.000]  These lawyers, they...
[01:23:17.000 --> 01:23:19.000]  Okay, when will I file that?
[01:23:19.000 --> 01:23:22.000]  You file that after they file suit.
[01:23:22.000 --> 01:23:25.000]  You're not at that point yet.
[01:23:25.000 --> 01:23:27.000]  So don't worry about them filing suit.
[01:23:27.000 --> 01:23:28.000]  You're in a judicial estate.
[01:23:28.000 --> 01:23:30.000]  They have to go through the courts.
[01:23:30.000 --> 01:23:35.000]  This guy I'm helping, I've had him in court for about six years.
[01:23:35.000 --> 01:23:36.000]  I can't believe that.
[01:23:36.000 --> 01:23:37.000]  Wow.
[01:23:37.000 --> 01:23:42.000]  I messed it up a lot because he's doing a lot of this patriot mythology stuff.
[01:23:42.000 --> 01:23:50.000]  And I had to come back two or three times and bail him out from junk he had filed with the court.
[01:23:50.000 --> 01:23:53.000]  That's about to cause him his claim.
[01:23:53.000 --> 01:24:04.000]  And I come back and one of them, I withdrew his claim or I amended his claim and replaced it with another claim.
[01:24:04.000 --> 01:24:08.000]  If this was such a mess, they would have thrown him right out on his ear.
[01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:13.000]  But he messed it all up and he's still in court with him.
[01:24:13.000 --> 01:24:14.000]  How did that happen?
[01:24:14.000 --> 01:24:16.000]  Wow.
[01:24:16.000 --> 01:24:21.000]  I'm telling you, there are so many claims against these guys.
[01:24:21.000 --> 01:24:23.000]  And that's what I do.
[01:24:23.000 --> 01:24:31.000]  I look for ways to raise questions that the other guy doesn't want to answer.
[01:24:31.000 --> 01:24:42.000]  And one of the strategies that we've learned since the court will dismiss your claims out of hand without regard for the right of things in the rule of law.
[01:24:42.000 --> 01:24:43.000]  Okay.
[01:24:43.000 --> 01:24:44.000]  We got that.
[01:24:44.000 --> 01:24:46.000]  That's a parameter.
[01:24:46.000 --> 01:24:48.000]  It's not necessarily a problem.
[01:24:48.000 --> 01:24:50.000]  It's just a condition.
[01:24:50.000 --> 01:24:55.000]  You know, I drive down the road and the road's got holes in it.
[01:24:55.000 --> 01:24:57.000]  Well, it's got holes in it.
[01:24:57.000 --> 01:25:05.000]  So I got to redesign my car so the holes won't destroy it because not getting rid of the holes in the road.
[01:25:05.000 --> 01:25:06.000]  Okay.
[01:25:06.000 --> 01:25:08.000]  The judges are correct.
[01:25:08.000 --> 01:25:09.000]  Okay.
[01:25:09.000 --> 01:25:12.000]  So we design our approach with that in mind.
[01:25:12.000 --> 01:25:19.000]  Instead of taking every single claim you can think of and sticking it all together in a suit and throwing it at them.
[01:25:19.000 --> 01:25:20.000]  Right.
[01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:28.000]  So we back up and say, hold on here, let's do a little strategy here.
[01:25:28.000 --> 01:25:33.000]  And the first thing we want to do are declaratory judgment suits.
[01:25:33.000 --> 01:25:57.000]  We want the judge in the first instance to say there is nothing in the public record which shows that Aquin has authority to represent a principle with standing or capacity to make a claim against the property.
[01:25:57.000 --> 01:25:59.000]  That's all we want them to say.
[01:25:59.000 --> 01:26:02.000]  We don't want them to say they don't have a claim.
[01:26:02.000 --> 01:26:06.000]  We don't want them to say that we don't owe money.
[01:26:06.000 --> 01:26:13.000]  We only want them to say they didn't properly file their claim in the public record.
[01:26:13.000 --> 01:26:16.000]  That's not so hard.
[01:26:16.000 --> 01:26:19.000]  And even if the judge rules against us, we'll keep them in five years.
[01:26:19.000 --> 01:26:21.000]  We'll keep them in court five years over that one.
[01:26:21.000 --> 01:26:22.000]  Right.
[01:26:22.000 --> 01:26:26.000]  Because there's so many different, you know, they're saying they don't file.
[01:26:26.000 --> 01:26:29.000]  They file it a different way now electronically.
[01:26:29.000 --> 01:26:30.000]  It's more updated.
[01:26:30.000 --> 01:26:32.000]  They don't file the records.
[01:26:32.000 --> 01:26:36.000]  And we filed the action.
[01:26:36.000 --> 01:26:38.000]  They got 20 days to respond.
[01:26:38.000 --> 01:26:40.000]  They filed a response.
[01:26:40.000 --> 01:26:45.000]  And they filed a Rule 12 motion to dismiss fair state claim which can't be had.
[01:26:45.000 --> 01:26:49.000]  And we filed an opposition to the Rule 12.
[01:26:49.000 --> 01:26:52.000]  And each one of these, you get like 30, 60 days apiece.
[01:26:52.000 --> 01:26:58.000]  And when both sides get all their filings in, that will take about 90 to 120 days.
[01:26:58.000 --> 01:27:03.000]  Then the judge will take six months to get to it because his docket's so flawed.
[01:27:03.000 --> 01:27:05.000]  And then he'll rule against us.
[01:27:05.000 --> 01:27:08.000]  And he'll tell us why he ruled against us.
[01:27:08.000 --> 01:27:12.000]  So we'll file an amended pleading to correct those errors.
[01:27:12.000 --> 01:27:15.000]  The whole process starts all over again.
[01:27:15.000 --> 01:27:22.000]  And by the time we get through just these front pieces, we'll be a couple years down the road.
[01:27:22.000 --> 01:27:25.000]  And then the court will rule against us out of hand.
[01:27:25.000 --> 01:27:27.000]  And we'll file a motion for reconsideration.
[01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:29.000]  Then the judge will take three or four months.
[01:27:29.000 --> 01:27:32.000]  And he'll deny the motion for reconsideration.
[01:27:32.000 --> 01:27:34.000]  And then we'll file a notice of appeal.
[01:27:34.000 --> 01:27:37.000]  We got 90 days to file an appeal.
[01:27:37.000 --> 01:27:39.000]  And then we file the appeal.
[01:27:39.000 --> 01:27:46.000]  And it will take the court probably a year to get to our appeal.
[01:27:46.000 --> 01:27:48.000]  Is there any way they can throw it out?
[01:27:48.000 --> 01:27:50.000]  Yeah, they can throw it out.
[01:27:50.000 --> 01:27:54.000]  And then we'll file a petition for sociology with the Supreme Court.
[01:27:54.000 --> 01:27:57.000]  And they'll take another six months to a year to get to that.
[01:27:57.000 --> 01:28:00.000]  And then they'll deny our certiorari.
[01:28:00.000 --> 01:28:05.000]  Now we're about four years down the road.
[01:28:05.000 --> 01:28:08.000]  And we come back with the next step.
[01:28:08.000 --> 01:28:20.000]  We file a claim that the mortgage is void because they lied to us when they made the note.
[01:28:20.000 --> 01:28:24.000]  There's all kind of problems with the mortgage instrument that we can claim.
[01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:25.000]  So we go back.
[01:28:25.000 --> 01:28:30.000]  Now we do a quiet title action against the deed of trust.
[01:28:30.000 --> 01:28:34.000]  We say the deed of trust is void on its face.
[01:28:34.000 --> 01:28:36.000]  It says that MERS is the beneficiary.
[01:28:36.000 --> 01:28:39.000]  And the courts have said MERS can't be the beneficiary.
[01:28:39.000 --> 01:28:42.000]  So this document is void on the face.
[01:28:42.000 --> 01:28:53.000]  The lender can't have standing because in the mortgage instrument you made MERS the beneficiary.
[01:28:53.000 --> 01:28:55.000]  So the lender's not the beneficiary.
[01:28:55.000 --> 01:28:56.000]  MERS is.
[01:28:56.000 --> 01:28:59.000]  But then the court said that MERS can't be the beneficiary.
[01:28:59.000 --> 01:29:01.000]  Sorry, guys.
[01:29:01.000 --> 01:29:03.000]  I didn't write this stupid mortgage.
[01:29:03.000 --> 01:29:04.000]  You guys did.
[01:29:04.000 --> 01:29:08.000]  If there's a problem with it, you're the ones that created it.
[01:29:08.000 --> 01:29:10.000]  You're responsible for the problem.
[01:29:10.000 --> 01:29:12.000]  That's another suit you make.
[01:29:12.000 --> 01:29:15.000]  Another five years to get through that one.
[01:29:15.000 --> 01:29:18.000]  And that's a suit on.
[01:29:18.000 --> 01:29:22.000]  What claim is that one?
[01:29:22.000 --> 01:29:28.000]  That one is just one that I can make on any deed of trust.
[01:29:28.000 --> 01:29:29.000]  Okay.
[01:29:29.000 --> 01:29:36.000]  Just the deed of trust, whoever wrote it, had to be high on coke.
[01:29:36.000 --> 01:29:37.000]  It don't make sense.
[01:29:37.000 --> 01:29:41.000]  As a reasonable person, it does not make any sense.
[01:29:41.000 --> 01:29:42.000]  Hang on.
[01:29:42.000 --> 01:29:43.000]  Back to do the break.
[01:29:43.000 --> 01:29:44.000]  We do need to move along.
[01:29:44.000 --> 01:29:45.000]  We'll come back.
[01:29:45.000 --> 01:29:49.000]  We've got a bunch of guys we need to hang patient with us, hanging on a long time.
[01:29:49.000 --> 01:29:52.000]  Steve, Mark, Danny, we'll get to everybody.
[01:29:52.000 --> 01:30:03.000]  We'll be right back.
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[01:33:38.000 --> 01:33:43.000]  Okay, have we answered all your questions?
[01:33:43.000 --> 01:33:49.000]  Yes, but I do have one final question that I've been holding on to.
[01:33:49.000 --> 01:33:53.000]  So this is based on the Notice of Acceleration.
[01:33:53.000 --> 01:34:04.000]  So my concern is if I happen to receive a Notice of Acceleration before I receive a request back from about the HUB1 settlement form,
[01:34:04.000 --> 01:34:10.000]  because it said it takes about 30 to 45 days, what do I do in that moment?
[01:34:10.000 --> 01:34:11.000]  Don't worry about it.
[01:34:11.000 --> 01:34:23.000]  We will – what I need to do is I need to look at the – at a statement at what they claim you owe,
[01:34:23.000 --> 01:34:32.000]  and I'll make up a qualified written request based on what they claim you owe.
[01:34:32.000 --> 01:34:38.000]  Because I'll look at the note because we have a copy – you have the note, don't you?
[01:34:38.000 --> 01:34:39.000]  Yes.
[01:34:39.000 --> 01:34:41.000]  Okay, so all I need is the note.
[01:34:41.000 --> 01:34:46.000]  I can take the note and do an amortization on the note itself,
[01:34:46.000 --> 01:34:52.000]  and that will tell me what they should be charging according to the note,
[01:34:52.000 --> 01:34:55.000]  and then I compare that to what they're actually charging.
[01:34:55.000 --> 01:34:59.000]  It is almost never the same.
[01:34:59.000 --> 01:35:07.000]  And then we'll go in and write a challenge against the amounts they're collecting for escrow,
[01:35:07.000 --> 01:35:13.000]  claiming that they're charging too much for insurance, they're charging too much for taxes,
[01:35:13.000 --> 01:35:24.000]  which they almost always do, and use that as a claim of an accounting error.
[01:35:24.000 --> 01:35:29.000]  See, the claim doesn't have to be true, doesn't have to be accurate.
[01:35:29.000 --> 01:35:33.000]  You're claiming an accounting error and you want them to correct it.
[01:35:33.000 --> 01:35:38.000]  Well, they can look at it and say, oh, well, it's okay, it's not incorrect,
[01:35:38.000 --> 01:35:47.000]  but it doesn't make any difference as to rendering your document a qualified written request.
[01:35:47.000 --> 01:35:52.000]  Qualified written request is not proof of an accounting error, just a claim of an accounting error.
[01:35:52.000 --> 01:35:54.000]  So that's all we need.
[01:35:54.000 --> 01:35:59.000]  So we claim the accounting error and stick the rescission in the back of it.
[01:35:59.000 --> 01:36:05.000]  You seem to be real concerned about the notice of default.
[01:36:05.000 --> 01:36:06.000]  Don't worry about it.
[01:36:06.000 --> 01:36:14.000]  You are so far ahead of the game that you're way out there in front of most people that we get here.
[01:36:14.000 --> 01:36:16.000]  So don't be too concerned.
[01:36:16.000 --> 01:36:19.000]  These guys got a long way to go.
[01:36:19.000 --> 01:36:20.000]  Okay.
[01:36:20.000 --> 01:36:24.000]  So the note, I was told, is filed in the public record.
[01:36:24.000 --> 01:36:26.000]  There's just so many different opinions.
[01:36:26.000 --> 01:36:29.000]  No, no, no, the note is generally not filed in the record.
[01:36:29.000 --> 01:36:32.000]  The deed of trust is or the mortgage is.
[01:36:32.000 --> 01:36:40.000]  You're in a judicial state where you have a mortgage instead of a deed of trust.
[01:36:40.000 --> 01:36:44.000]  And the term mortgage is confusing because...
[01:36:44.000 --> 01:36:47.000]  That's why I got confused when you asked about the note.
[01:36:47.000 --> 01:36:48.000]  So I guess I should ask.
[01:36:48.000 --> 01:36:49.000]  Yeah.
[01:36:49.000 --> 01:36:51.000]  I don't like calling it a mortgage.
[01:36:51.000 --> 01:36:59.000]  Let's call it a security instrument, a note, and warranty deed.
[01:36:59.000 --> 01:37:05.000]  Those three documents make up a mortgage in the general sense of mortgage.
[01:37:05.000 --> 01:37:11.000]  In judicial states, they call the security instrument a mortgage.
[01:37:11.000 --> 01:37:16.000]  Better to think of it as a security instrument because in a non-judicial state,
[01:37:16.000 --> 01:37:19.000]  you have a deed of trust, which is a security instrument.
[01:37:19.000 --> 01:37:23.000]  Security instrument, warranty deed, note.
[01:37:23.000 --> 01:37:28.000]  The lender traded you the warranty deed for the note
[01:37:28.000 --> 01:37:36.000]  and took the security instrument to secure his interest.
[01:37:36.000 --> 01:37:39.000]  Let me say that again so it makes sense.
[01:37:39.000 --> 01:37:44.000]  The lender purchased the property from the borrower.
[01:37:44.000 --> 01:37:51.000]  The lender purchased the property from the seller and got a warranty deed
[01:37:51.000 --> 01:37:55.000]  and traded you that warranty deed or your mother that warranty deed
[01:37:55.000 --> 01:37:59.000]  for a promissory note, a promise to pay,
[01:37:59.000 --> 01:38:05.000]  and took a security instrument to secure payment.
[01:38:05.000 --> 01:38:09.000]  Those three documents are the mortgage.
[01:38:09.000 --> 01:38:13.000]  The security instrument in a judicial state is often called a mortgage as well.
[01:38:13.000 --> 01:38:16.000]  It gets confusing.
[01:38:16.000 --> 01:38:18.000]  Right, so it's difficult to get a hold of a note.
[01:38:18.000 --> 01:38:20.000]  I don't know where I would find it.
[01:38:20.000 --> 01:38:23.000]  Now, you've basically corrected me on that point.
[01:38:23.000 --> 01:38:28.000]  I thought it was the same thing, a note that I had to note, but I guess...
[01:38:28.000 --> 01:38:29.000]  Yeah, okay.
[01:38:29.000 --> 01:38:37.000]  Well, if the other side tries to make a claim, you can request a note from them.
[01:38:37.000 --> 01:38:40.000]  That's the only thing on which they can make their claim.
[01:38:40.000 --> 01:38:42.000]  Right, that's what I'm nervous about because if they say
[01:38:42.000 --> 01:38:45.000]  if they have the note, that means they can foreclose.
[01:38:45.000 --> 01:38:50.000]  If they have the note, you want to see it.
[01:38:50.000 --> 01:38:52.000]  You don't believe it, you want to see it.
[01:38:52.000 --> 01:38:59.000]  So that way you'll have the note and then we can make a claim back against it.
[01:38:59.000 --> 01:39:00.000]  Right, right.
[01:39:00.000 --> 01:39:04.000]  Thank you for clarifying that because I definitely put it in the same boat.
[01:39:04.000 --> 01:39:11.000]  I was not really informed properly.
[01:39:11.000 --> 01:39:16.000]  Right, and they're not going to do anything to inform you properly if they can avoid it.
[01:39:16.000 --> 01:39:21.000]  But the whole point of me spending this much time on these mortgage issues
[01:39:21.000 --> 01:39:24.000]  is for everybody to understand.
[01:39:24.000 --> 01:39:28.000]  There are so many things you can do to beat these guys up.
[01:39:28.000 --> 01:39:30.000]  You will not believe it.
[01:39:30.000 --> 01:39:35.000]  So if you have a mortgage issue, if you have a foreclosure issue,
[01:39:35.000 --> 01:39:39.000]  don't be too terribly concerned.
[01:39:39.000 --> 01:39:43.000]  Ninety-five percent of all the people who get into a foreclosure situation
[01:39:43.000 --> 01:39:46.000]  just walk away from the property.
[01:39:46.000 --> 01:39:47.000]  Right, right.
[01:39:47.000 --> 01:39:48.000]  That's what I tell you to do, just walk away.
[01:39:48.000 --> 01:39:50.000]  We were told that.
[01:39:50.000 --> 01:39:54.000]  Yeah, heck with you, Bubba.
[01:39:54.000 --> 01:39:59.000]  We'll sue you, cost you a fortune, and lease out the property for the next 10 years.
[01:39:59.000 --> 01:40:07.000]  I have someone call in the show who had been fighting their foreclosure for 18 years.
[01:40:07.000 --> 01:40:09.000]  How did I let them stay in the house that long?
[01:40:09.000 --> 01:40:10.000]  That doesn't sound real.
[01:40:10.000 --> 01:40:16.000]  I've had this property for 18 years, but not fighting for it for 18 years.
[01:40:16.000 --> 01:40:19.000]  These people have been fighting foreclosure for 18 years.
[01:40:19.000 --> 01:40:23.000]  It was absolutely insane.
[01:40:23.000 --> 01:40:24.000]  Really?
[01:40:24.000 --> 01:40:26.000]  I don't know how they got the banks to let them stay.
[01:40:26.000 --> 01:40:30.000]  There are so many claims you can make against these people.
[01:40:30.000 --> 01:40:37.000]  If you don't make all your claims at one time, you can make them one at a time.
[01:40:37.000 --> 01:40:39.000]  Each one they have to adjudicate.
[01:40:39.000 --> 01:40:45.000]  If you make all your claims at once, these courts, they'll take one claim,
[01:40:45.000 --> 01:40:50.000]  deny that claim, and throw out all the rest, not even address them.
[01:40:50.000 --> 01:40:53.000]  The courts are corrupt.
[01:40:53.000 --> 01:40:57.000]  You can't afford to put two claims in one lawsuit
[01:40:57.000 --> 01:41:00.000]  because the judge just won't rule on them.
[01:41:00.000 --> 01:41:05.000]  The law says absolutely that they have to, but they don't.
[01:41:05.000 --> 01:41:07.000]  They don't care what the law says.
[01:41:07.000 --> 01:41:11.000]  You only give them one at a time.
[01:41:11.000 --> 01:41:15.000]  That's going to take forever.
[01:41:15.000 --> 01:41:24.000]  Do you remember if it was a judicial state or nonjudicial that that claim occurred for 18 years?
[01:41:24.000 --> 01:41:26.000]  It was a nonjudicial.
[01:41:26.000 --> 01:41:27.000]  Wow.
[01:41:27.000 --> 01:41:31.000]  See, that makes it harder.
[01:41:31.000 --> 01:41:35.000]  They tried to foreclose, and they didn't have to go to court to foreclose.
[01:41:35.000 --> 01:41:38.000]  In New York, they got to go to court.
[01:41:38.000 --> 01:41:45.000]  I've got the one guy that's been in, I think he's pushing a little over six years now.
[01:41:45.000 --> 01:41:49.000]  They hadn't got their foreclosure done yet.
[01:41:49.000 --> 01:41:50.000]  Wow.
[01:41:50.000 --> 01:41:53.000]  I don't know if it's different from the state or the city.
[01:41:53.000 --> 01:41:55.000]  I'm in New York City, so I don't know.
[01:41:55.000 --> 01:41:57.000]  No, it makes no difference, no difference.
[01:41:57.000 --> 01:42:00.000]  Oh, okay.
[01:42:00.000 --> 01:42:02.000]  Okay, so don't be too concerned.
[01:42:02.000 --> 01:42:04.000]  You're ahead of the game.
[01:42:04.000 --> 01:42:06.000]  Okay, I do need to move along.
[01:42:06.000 --> 01:42:08.000]  Okay, I will be in touch this week.
[01:42:08.000 --> 01:42:09.000]  I do have your number.
[01:42:09.000 --> 01:42:12.000]  I know you asked me to call.
[01:42:12.000 --> 01:42:13.000]  All righty.
[01:42:13.000 --> 01:42:15.000]  Call me, and we'll get something set up.
[01:42:15.000 --> 01:42:17.000]  Okay, thank you so much.
[01:42:17.000 --> 01:42:18.000]  All righty.
[01:42:18.000 --> 01:42:20.000]  Okay, now we're going to go to Steve in California.
[01:42:20.000 --> 01:42:23.000]  Hello, Steve.
[01:42:23.000 --> 01:42:25.000]  Hello, Mr. Kelton.
[01:42:25.000 --> 01:42:30.000]  Honey, what can we do for you today?
[01:42:30.000 --> 01:42:33.000]  Well, I called you earlier in the summer.
[01:42:33.000 --> 01:42:37.000]  I have a case in Florida.
[01:42:37.000 --> 01:42:47.000]  I was vacationing there, and walking down the street, a woman said that I grabbed my wife.
[01:42:47.000 --> 01:42:52.000]  Well, she was concentrating on her iPhone, and she's stepping off the curb into traffic.
[01:42:52.000 --> 01:43:00.000]  But the woman made a threat against this, and she said, is that...
[01:43:00.000 --> 01:43:02.000]  She doesn't want you to follow her.
[01:43:02.000 --> 01:43:04.000]  Said that to me about my wife.
[01:43:04.000 --> 01:43:10.000]  She called us in, made allegations that I grabbed my wife and was chasing her,
[01:43:10.000 --> 01:43:21.000]  and we were stopped by officers on bicycle cops who basically screamed for my ID,
[01:43:21.000 --> 01:43:26.000]  and then two seconds later grabbed me and started wrestling me to the ground,
[01:43:26.000 --> 01:43:30.000]  pepper-strayed us both, and tased me.
[01:43:30.000 --> 01:43:35.000]  It's been a couple nights in jail.
[01:43:35.000 --> 01:43:38.000]  Pepper-strayed you and your wife both?
[01:43:38.000 --> 01:43:41.000]  Yes, because my wife was saying, stop, what's going on?
[01:43:41.000 --> 01:43:42.000]  What are you doing?
[01:43:42.000 --> 01:43:44.000]  Why are you beating my husband?
[01:43:44.000 --> 01:43:45.000]  Okay, hang on.
[01:43:45.000 --> 01:43:47.000]  We're about to go to break.
[01:43:47.000 --> 01:43:53.000]  Randy Kelton, Radio Call-In Number 512-646-1984.
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[01:46:02.000 --> 01:46:17.000]  Okay, we are back.
[01:46:17.000 --> 01:46:19.000]  Randy Kelcom, Rule of Law Radio.
[01:46:19.000 --> 01:46:21.000]  We're talking to Steve in California.
[01:46:21.000 --> 01:46:26.000]  Okay, Steve, so I take it, did they arrest both of you?
[01:46:26.000 --> 01:46:28.000]  Yes, they did.
[01:46:28.000 --> 01:46:30.000]  And what were the charges?
[01:46:30.000 --> 01:46:34.000]  My wife was charged with two counts
[01:46:34.000 --> 01:46:38.000]  because there were two officers that performed that maneuver.
[01:46:38.000 --> 01:46:44.000]  She has obstruction without violence, two counts.
[01:46:44.000 --> 01:46:49.000]  I had a failure to give ID.
[01:46:49.000 --> 01:46:56.000]  I had a count of domestic violence and two assaults on Leos.
[01:46:56.000 --> 01:47:03.000]  Oh, so you stand up their knuckles with your face?
[01:47:03.000 --> 01:47:08.000]  That's right.
[01:47:08.000 --> 01:47:13.000]  They dropped the failure to give ID charge.
[01:47:13.000 --> 01:47:17.000]  They dropped the domestic violence charge.
[01:47:17.000 --> 01:47:19.000]  They had no probable.
[01:47:19.000 --> 01:47:24.000]  They had no dead wife or black-eyed wife or bruised wife.
[01:47:24.000 --> 01:47:27.000]  There was a alleged victim who was saying,
[01:47:27.000 --> 01:47:28.000]  what are you doing?
[01:47:28.000 --> 01:47:29.000]  This is nonsense.
[01:47:29.000 --> 01:47:31.000]  Let us explain it to you.
[01:47:31.000 --> 01:47:33.000]  There's nothing going on here.
[01:47:33.000 --> 01:47:37.000]  You got a call from a nosy lady who didn't like what we said to her
[01:47:37.000 --> 01:47:40.000]  because I told a nosy lady, you know, with all due respect,
[01:47:40.000 --> 01:47:44.000]  mind your own business, we've been happily married for a decade, you know.
[01:47:44.000 --> 01:47:49.000]  And the woman called us in, said, grab in, chase in.
[01:47:49.000 --> 01:47:56.000]  Yeah, we're just months down the line now,
[01:47:56.000 --> 01:47:59.000]  and the wheels of justice move slowly.
[01:47:59.000 --> 01:48:03.000]  All the action that is taking place is a discovery exhibit,
[01:48:03.000 --> 01:48:06.000]  which says the officer and my wife are witnesses.
[01:48:06.000 --> 01:48:10.000]  The prosecution will use if we go to trial.
[01:48:10.000 --> 01:48:12.000]  Did the...
[01:48:12.000 --> 01:48:16.000]  Yeah, their problem is if they dropped the family violence
[01:48:16.000 --> 01:48:18.000]  because they didn't have anything.
[01:48:18.000 --> 01:48:23.000]  The only thing they're holding on to is the assault against the officers?
[01:48:23.000 --> 01:48:27.000]  That's right, and the obstruction for my wife.
[01:48:27.000 --> 01:48:31.000]  Did either of them have body cams?
[01:48:31.000 --> 01:48:34.000]  No, they did not.
[01:48:34.000 --> 01:48:37.000]  So they don't have any videos?
[01:48:37.000 --> 01:48:39.000]  That's correct.
[01:48:39.000 --> 01:48:41.000]  To our knowledge, they have no videos.
[01:48:41.000 --> 01:48:47.000]  Did either of the officers go to the hospital and get treated?
[01:48:47.000 --> 01:48:51.000]  Not to our knowledge, we don't believe so.
[01:48:51.000 --> 01:48:55.000]  Were either of the officers injured?
[01:48:55.000 --> 01:48:57.000]  No, not to our knowledge.
[01:48:57.000 --> 01:49:07.000]  They alleged in the report that I hit an officer in the face with my open palm.
[01:49:07.000 --> 01:49:10.000]  With your open palm.
[01:49:10.000 --> 01:49:16.000]  Yeah, and the other officer's report said it was open palms, plural.
[01:49:16.000 --> 01:49:18.000]  So I recall...
[01:49:18.000 --> 01:49:22.000]  Wait a minute, are they saying you bitch slapped a cop?
[01:49:22.000 --> 01:49:25.000]  That's right.
[01:49:25.000 --> 01:49:31.000]  Their narrative is very, very creative, and I can't see through it all.
[01:49:31.000 --> 01:49:34.000]  But I'm just wondering what kind of...
[01:49:34.000 --> 01:49:37.000]  Have you heard of that trick where they charge you for...
[01:49:37.000 --> 01:49:40.000]  You know, they stop you for one thing, but drop that charge, but leave...
[01:49:40.000 --> 01:49:42.000]  Oh yeah, that's standard procedure.
[01:49:42.000 --> 01:49:47.000]  They will charge you with everything they can think of,
[01:49:47.000 --> 01:49:52.000]  so that they can drop the charges that absolutely cannot stick.
[01:49:52.000 --> 01:49:59.000]  The only charges left are those that rely strictly on the word of the police officer.
[01:49:59.000 --> 01:50:03.000]  And we know they'll lie like dogs,
[01:50:03.000 --> 01:50:09.000]  but the police officers can lie all they want to because there's no way to refute it.
[01:50:09.000 --> 01:50:14.000]  So, let's go back to the technical side.
[01:50:14.000 --> 01:50:19.000]  You're in California, they're in Florida trying to prosecute you,
[01:50:19.000 --> 01:50:24.000]  and you're having to hire a lawyer in Florida,
[01:50:24.000 --> 01:50:29.000]  and they're probably going to want you to travel back and forth.
[01:50:29.000 --> 01:50:34.000]  Sue them in the federal court for civil rights violations.
[01:50:34.000 --> 01:50:38.000]  It seems like a very black and white case to me,
[01:50:38.000 --> 01:50:46.000]  and I keep hearing a lot about these trial judges.
[01:50:46.000 --> 01:50:49.000]  These trial judges will give you no due process.
[01:50:49.000 --> 01:50:52.000]  I'm wondering how and when...
[01:50:52.000 --> 01:50:57.000]  Denial of due process is a federal offense.
[01:50:57.000 --> 01:50:59.000]  Okay.
[01:50:59.000 --> 01:51:04.000]  That's what brings you to the fence.
[01:51:04.000 --> 01:51:08.000]  So, okay, these cops are not going to drop this
[01:51:08.000 --> 01:51:14.000]  because they want you to pay for all of this time.
[01:51:14.000 --> 01:51:19.000]  They dropped the stuff they absolutely had no grounds for,
[01:51:19.000 --> 01:51:25.000]  and they're just trying to...prosecutors trying to recoup some money,
[01:51:25.000 --> 01:51:27.000]  and it's all about the money.
[01:51:27.000 --> 01:51:30.000]  So, file a federal lawsuit against them.
[01:51:30.000 --> 01:51:33.000]  It's not that difficult.
[01:51:33.000 --> 01:51:36.000]  It don't even have to be a good one.
[01:51:36.000 --> 01:51:39.000]  It just has to be one.
[01:51:39.000 --> 01:51:44.000]  And since you live in California, you file it in California,
[01:51:44.000 --> 01:51:49.000]  and they have to hire a lawyer in California.
[01:51:49.000 --> 01:51:52.000]  And do I not have to have dismissed charges
[01:51:52.000 --> 01:51:57.000]  or an adjudication of not guilty in order to file?
[01:51:57.000 --> 01:51:59.000]  No, no, no, no, no, no.
[01:51:59.000 --> 01:52:01.000]  This is due process violations.
[01:52:01.000 --> 01:52:04.000]  It doesn't have nothing to do with guilt or not guilt.
[01:52:04.000 --> 01:52:06.000]  Okay.
[01:52:06.000 --> 01:52:09.000]  They stopped you for family violence
[01:52:09.000 --> 01:52:13.000]  of which they did not have sufficient probable cause,
[01:52:13.000 --> 01:52:15.000]  and you can come up with it.
[01:52:15.000 --> 01:52:17.000]  When they arrested you, did they take you directly
[01:52:17.000 --> 01:52:21.000]  to the nearest magistrate and explain themselves?
[01:52:21.000 --> 01:52:22.000]  No, no.
[01:52:22.000 --> 01:52:26.000]  Ah, they took you to jail and locked you in a jail cell
[01:52:26.000 --> 01:52:29.000]  so they could sit down and talk to one another
[01:52:29.000 --> 01:52:31.000]  and work out their BS story.
[01:52:31.000 --> 01:52:33.000]  That's what they did.
[01:52:33.000 --> 01:52:36.000]  That is a due process violation.
[01:52:36.000 --> 01:52:40.000]  That'll get you to the federal court.
[01:52:40.000 --> 01:52:47.000]  You have lots of things that'll get you in the federal court.
[01:52:47.000 --> 01:52:51.000]  You're not going to live in the federal court.
[01:52:51.000 --> 01:52:53.000]  The courts are corrupt.
[01:52:53.000 --> 01:52:54.000]  Okay.
[01:52:54.000 --> 01:52:57.000]  We deal with that.
[01:52:57.000 --> 01:53:05.000]  You as a pro se, you have ability to run these guys through the mill.
[01:53:05.000 --> 01:53:09.000]  They want to try to convict you over this and let them try.
[01:53:09.000 --> 01:53:11.000]  We'll take you to the federal court.
[01:53:11.000 --> 01:53:17.000]  Now, you can petition a local court.
[01:53:17.000 --> 01:53:25.000]  The federal court has no power to order the state court to stay prosecution.
[01:53:25.000 --> 01:53:29.000]  But you can go to a state court, a higher court,
[01:53:29.000 --> 01:53:33.000]  and ask the court to issue a plea and abatement,
[01:53:33.000 --> 01:53:37.000]  to hear a plea and abatement and abate the criminal proceedings
[01:53:37.000 --> 01:53:43.000]  until the federal due process violations are adjudicated.
[01:53:43.000 --> 01:53:48.000]  Because if you can show that they breached your federal rights,
[01:53:48.000 --> 01:53:56.000]  then they are disqualified and they can't prosecute the convictions,
[01:53:56.000 --> 01:54:00.000]  the criminal charges against you.
[01:54:00.000 --> 01:54:01.000]  Excellent.
[01:54:01.000 --> 01:54:06.000]  You read my mind and answered my first question that was written down to ask you.
[01:54:06.000 --> 01:54:07.000]  Thank you.
[01:54:07.000 --> 01:54:13.000]  My question would have been, what creative filings or motions can I do ahead of time?
[01:54:13.000 --> 01:54:15.000]  And you've answered that.
[01:54:15.000 --> 01:54:22.000]  That's at a higher court in Florida with a civil in the works.
[01:54:22.000 --> 01:54:27.000]  And you can actually file charges against them.
[01:54:27.000 --> 01:54:31.000]  Like you can file against the officers for not taking you to a magistrate.
[01:54:31.000 --> 01:54:35.000]  You can file against the jailers for not taking you to a magistrate.
[01:54:35.000 --> 01:54:42.000]  You can file against, did they bring you before a judge?
[01:54:42.000 --> 01:54:45.000]  Oh, the next morning, yes.
[01:54:45.000 --> 01:54:46.000]  Yeah, okay.
[01:54:46.000 --> 01:54:50.000]  You file against the judge for not holding the proper examining trial.
[01:54:50.000 --> 01:54:54.000]  Were the arresting officers there at that hearing?
[01:54:54.000 --> 01:54:55.000]  No, they were not.
[01:54:55.000 --> 01:55:00.000]  So you file against the judge for denying you due process,
[01:55:00.000 --> 01:55:04.000]  procedural due process in not holding the proper examining trial.
[01:55:04.000 --> 01:55:07.000]  You charge the officers with failure to bring you,
[01:55:07.000 --> 01:55:11.000]  to timely bring you before a magistrate.
[01:55:11.000 --> 01:55:15.000]  There's so many claims you can make against them.
[01:55:15.000 --> 01:55:18.000]  In the end, it's all political.
[01:55:18.000 --> 01:55:20.000]  That will hurt them.
[01:55:20.000 --> 01:55:24.000]  Yeah, it's going to cost them a lot of money.
[01:55:24.000 --> 01:55:25.000]  It's all about the money.
[01:55:25.000 --> 01:55:28.000]  If you sue them in the federal court,
[01:55:28.000 --> 01:55:34.000]  they have to hire a lawyer in California to defend them.
[01:55:34.000 --> 01:55:39.000]  And then the first thing you want to do is bar-grieve the lawyer.
[01:55:39.000 --> 01:55:44.000]  When you bar-grieve the lawyer, he's going to have a conniption fit.
[01:55:44.000 --> 01:55:46.000]  And he's going to quit.
[01:55:46.000 --> 01:55:48.000]  They're going to have to hire another lawyer.
[01:55:48.000 --> 01:55:51.000]  The other lawyer is going to know why the first one quit.
[01:55:51.000 --> 01:55:54.000]  And he's going to charge them a fortune.
[01:55:54.000 --> 01:55:56.000]  Okay.
[01:55:56.000 --> 01:55:57.000]  Okay.
[01:55:57.000 --> 01:56:05.000]  In the end, lawyers are not supposed to make these kinds of calculations.
[01:56:05.000 --> 01:56:08.000]  But you're not in there dangling by your bar card.
[01:56:08.000 --> 01:56:11.000]  They can make any kind of calculation you want to.
[01:56:11.000 --> 01:56:17.000]  And you can bar-grieve him because you don't like the way he parts his hair.
[01:56:17.000 --> 01:56:19.000]  They'll throw the bar-griever out,
[01:56:19.000 --> 01:56:25.000]  but his malpractice insurance carrier will double his malpractice insurance anyway.
[01:56:25.000 --> 01:56:29.000]  They got politics that works on their side.
[01:56:29.000 --> 01:56:33.000]  You can create politics that works on your side.
[01:56:33.000 --> 01:56:34.000]  Excellent.
[01:56:34.000 --> 01:56:38.000]  I had a little creative idea about that because we have depositions set
[01:56:38.000 --> 01:56:42.000]  where my attorney will speak with the two officers.
[01:56:42.000 --> 01:56:48.000]  And I was wondering, one, should I go?
[01:56:48.000 --> 01:56:53.000]  Two, should maybe some family go to show support?
[01:56:53.000 --> 01:56:58.000]  Number three, what I thought was, oh, yeah, I know a former state attorney.
[01:56:58.000 --> 01:57:03.000]  I have an acquaintance who knows a former state attorney who has some interest in my case.
[01:57:03.000 --> 01:57:05.000]  Could he go on?
[01:57:05.000 --> 01:57:08.000]  Absolutely.
[01:57:08.000 --> 01:57:13.000]  Or a big talk show person down there who I might have a connection with
[01:57:13.000 --> 01:57:16.000]  who might be interested in our story too, could they go instead?
[01:57:16.000 --> 01:57:22.000]  Well, your attorney, no, only you or your attorney.
[01:57:22.000 --> 01:57:32.000]  Now, your attorney friend probably won't go because if he goes, that attaches him to the case.
[01:57:32.000 --> 01:57:36.000]  He sticks to it like glue.
[01:57:36.000 --> 01:57:40.000]  And he probably won't want that to happen.
[01:57:40.000 --> 01:57:42.000]  Who would go and stick to it like glue?
[01:57:42.000 --> 01:57:43.000]  The prosecutor?
[01:57:43.000 --> 01:57:44.000]  Well, I don't.
[01:57:44.000 --> 01:57:51.000]  If you have an attorney and you ask for a recording of the deposition,
[01:57:51.000 --> 01:57:54.000]  I wouldn't think it would be necessary.
[01:57:54.000 --> 01:58:00.000]  They probably wouldn't want you there in the room because you'd be disrupted.
[01:58:00.000 --> 01:58:04.000]  Okay, so just transcribe, get it transcribed, and that's for?
[01:58:04.000 --> 01:58:08.000]  Yeah, because you'd say, that guy, he's lying, he's full of crap,
[01:58:08.000 --> 01:58:12.000]  and then they'd wind up throwing you out anyway.
[01:58:12.000 --> 01:58:15.000]  Yeah, I was just wondering if having a news media person,
[01:58:15.000 --> 01:58:19.000]  I was wondering if having a news media person who just was a personal point of view.
[01:58:19.000 --> 01:58:23.000]  No, the lawyers wouldn't allow it in there.
[01:58:23.000 --> 01:58:24.000]  Okay.
[01:58:24.000 --> 01:58:29.000]  The only way a lawyer would get in is if you hired him as a co-counsel
[01:58:29.000 --> 01:58:32.000]  and your lawyer would have a conniption fit.
[01:58:32.000 --> 01:58:33.000]  That probably won't work.
[01:58:33.000 --> 01:58:35.000]  Hang on, we're about to go to break.
[01:58:35.000 --> 01:58:37.000]  Randy Kelton, Wheel of Law Radio.
[01:58:37.000 --> 01:58:42.000]  I call in number 512-646-1984.
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