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[01:08.240 --> 01:12.480]  In the news, more than a year after surveillance leaks by Edward Snowden, a new survey from
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[01:18.820 --> 01:22.480]  The survey found that 80% of Americans are concerned with the government's monitoring
[01:22.480 --> 01:24.640]  of phone and internet communications.
[01:24.640 --> 01:30.080]  70% stated they had concerns that the government may access information shared on social media
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[01:33.240 --> 01:37.000]  The Rosebud Sioux Tribal President has announced that the tribe considers the U.S. House of
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[01:41.400 --> 01:45.560]  The Rosebud Sioux say they have made every effort to peacefully deal with the U.S. government
[01:45.560 --> 01:53.320]  despite not being consulted on the project, which would cross their tribal land.
[01:53.320 --> 01:57.960]  On December 10, activists in Detroit and Greece will join demonstrators in Ireland to protest
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[01:58.960 --> 02:03.280]  There are two days of large actions planned leading to a massive protest in Ireland's
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[02:06.720 --> 02:10.400]  The Detroit Water Brigade will be participating as part of their ongoing efforts to halt the
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[02:11.760 --> 02:14.920]  Officials with the city recently announced it will continue the water shutoffs through
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[05:16.200 --> 05:34.600]  Now, a little bit of what I want to talk about, I don't want to talk too long, I'd like to start taking callers as soon as we can tonight, so I want to make sure that the phones are on, and everybody knows the number, call in number 512-646-1984, okay, so give us a call and get in line.
[05:34.600 --> 06:01.200]  But one thing I do want to talk about is a video that I was watching on YouTube, it's an hour and almost 12 minutes long, and it is titled Malicious in the U.S. Now, this, I don't know when this actual committee hearing took place, but it was obviously a while back, but this video was recently put up from what I can see.
[06:01.200 --> 06:20.000]  But it's, the Senate subcommittee is questioning these militia members and leaders about why we need a militia, what do they stand for as a militia and all this kind of stuff, it would really behoove you to go and watch this.
[06:20.000 --> 06:38.960]  And the reason for that is to understand exactly what it is that the mainstream media tries to do to make it appear that militia members are radical extremists that want to kill and maim everybody they meet that doesn't agree with them, which is the farthest from the truth.
[06:38.960 --> 07:02.040]  I don't know of any good patriot that wants to hurt anyone to be free, but I know many patriots that are willing to do what's necessary against those that would prevent them from being free, and there is a big difference in the two, okay.
[07:02.040 --> 07:31.960]  The people that think they have the right to run your lives are the very people that are on this subcommittee, Feinstein's there, Specter's there, there's several, but it's very apparent by the questions that they're attempting to ask and the picture they're painting with those questions is that they are trying to assist the media in disparaging people that think militias are necessary
[07:31.960 --> 07:44.520]  and are vital to America, or that the people even have a right to form a militia on their own without any input from any governmental side of anything.
[07:44.520 --> 08:08.000]  Now, I will say this, the militia commander that's on here, he's the one that's dressed in fatigues, what he says in his addressing of the committee is exactly the things that I have been saying since I can't even begin to tell you how long.
[08:08.000 --> 08:35.800]  From the time I realized that the world was misleading me in more ways than I could count and it wasn't just for my mother's sake on her property, that's when I really got into it and I really began studying it, but the concept of being told I'm free and then that someone else can dictate what, when and where I can do something somehow never gelled well with me as being synonymous with free.
[08:35.800 --> 08:47.640]  Something was rotten in the state of Denmark and I always questioned what that was and these were some of the same things that this gentleman saying that I was saying my whole life.
[08:47.640 --> 09:05.840]  How can you say this if this is what we know to be a fact, for instance, we know it to be a fact that the founding fathers allegedly were acting as representatives of the people collectively when they created the Constitution for the United States.
[09:05.840 --> 09:35.440]  Now we know if you've read the Articles of Confederation and you understand a lot of things that are going on, that's not exactly true. They may have been acting in what they thought was the best interest of the people, but they were not acting with any actual authority from the people because the authority of the people was what was laid down in the Articles of Confederation at the time and the Articles of Confederation specifically forbade the very thing the founding fathers did in Philadelphia.
[09:35.440 --> 09:56.840]  During that Constitutional Convention so-called. So everyone's had an agenda from day one on how they think things should work and how they think they should operate and I can't say that the concepts that came out of that convention were bad because I absolutely agree with the concepts,
[09:56.840 --> 10:09.400]  the ideologies, the moralities, the ethics, the principles, everything that came out of that about what a free society and free people are I agree with.
[10:09.400 --> 10:28.000]  And in this Senate subcommittee you will see this guy saying exactly the same thing that I've been saying so many times and for as long as I've been on this show about what the government is in relation to the people and what the people are in relation to the government and it is certainly not what the government wants us to think it is.
[10:28.000 --> 10:42.400]  The government wants us to believe and accept that it is in charge and we are subordinate. That could not possibly be farther from the truth. The government exists because of the Constitution.
[10:42.400 --> 11:03.300]  They are a child, a creation of the Constitution, which by definition is a creation of the will of the people. Therefore, the creation of government is at least two levels below the existence of the people and the rights held by the people.
[11:03.300 --> 11:25.000]  The Constitution can't grant to the creator something the creator could obviously put into it. So the rights that are codified within the Constitution as protected from any encroachment by government and are certainly many of which are not even enumerated,
[11:25.000 --> 11:45.800]  were not granted or given in any way, shape, or form by that document to a single solitary person in the U.S. of A. Now that is slightly different than applying it as it would go to a U.S. citizen under the 14th amendment.
[11:45.800 --> 12:02.500]  But now I'm going to go a step further and y'all can talk about this anyway you want to, but here's my thoughts on this. The 14th amendment, as we are well aware, was written to apply directly to the freed slaves.
[12:02.500 --> 12:17.500]  And even though Jefferson put into the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence that all men are created equal, we know he was specifically putting limitations on that statement.
[12:17.500 --> 12:28.200]  Because as a slave owner, he had to know there were limitations on all men being created equal or he would have never owned a slave to begin with, nor would any of the rest of them.
[12:28.200 --> 12:38.800]  So even though they may have agreed with the concept of all men are created equal in their minds, or at least some of their minds, that concept applied only to white men.
[12:38.800 --> 12:50.000]  I don't agree with that. Therefore, I do not agree that the 14th amendment was necessary to grant rights to freed slaves that they should have had as free men from the very beginning.
[12:50.000 --> 13:03.300]  Because no one had the right to go over there and take them from their land. Even though I know, biblically speaking, their slavery and all that, for many generations and many centuries, I'm well aware of that.
[13:03.300 --> 13:12.300]  Okay? That still doesn't make it right and it doesn't make it condone. It just simply is man being inhumane to man.
[13:12.300 --> 13:25.900]  Now, I'm also of the mind that I'm not required to pay reparations for something I had no hand in doing. Don't get me wrong. I've never owned a slave. Why should I have to pay reparations to someone who was?
[13:25.900 --> 13:47.100]  And I understand the concept, but the fact is, is that most of the people who were slaves aren't alive anymore. And whatever families they got left or have generations of, they don't have a right to claim harm that never was shouldered to them.
[13:47.100 --> 14:00.900]  Now, this of course, once again, is different than the things that went on in the 40s, 50s and 60s and the 20s and so on with the Jim Crow laws and things like that in the states that had them. That's a different situation. That's not slavery. That's oppression.
[14:00.900 --> 14:10.800]  That's abuse of another race of individuals for whatever reason. Now, I don't agree with that either.
[14:10.800 --> 14:21.600]  But the fact of the matter is, is that none of the stuff that's being laid on the shoulders of the militias by this subcommittee is true.
[14:21.600 --> 14:36.300]  Even though the subcommittee addresses it very directly, these committee members, or I'm sorry, the militia members address it very correctly and very succinctly, the committee members keep looking for alternative ways to ask questions that still paint the same picture.
[14:36.300 --> 15:03.800]  Fine Stein especially. But I would really like for you guys to go out and watch it. It's called Militias in the U.S., all right? You didn't need to go on YouTube and watch it about an hour and 12 minutes long. It's worth the watch because you get to see people that know what's going on actually tell a Senate subcommittee how full of crap they really are.
[15:03.800 --> 15:17.500]  And actually tell Arlen Spector that he is a member of the corrupt federal government and he is condoning the corruptness and he's like, prove it. Go pull up his voting record, folks. It's that simple.
[15:17.500 --> 15:27.600]  Pull up Spector's voting record to see what bills he voted on that are in conflict with the limited powers of the federal government within the Constitution.
[15:27.600 --> 15:36.900]  That's all you need to prove he's acting corrupt. He won't admit that, but it's all you need because they'll argue we don't pass unconstitutional laws.
[15:36.900 --> 16:03.100]  Well, the problem is, is what you see as the proper application of the Constitution and what the people see as a proper application of the Constitution don't see eye to eye. And in case you haven't got that in your skull yet, the people's view is superior to that of the child the people created in this political instance.
[16:03.100 --> 16:12.300]  And they don't want to admit that either. They think that because they hold a public office, that's the highest thing they have to address is the office and it isn't.
[16:12.300 --> 16:24.100]  That is the people's office. He is solely the caretaker and occupant at our whim and our will, whether he likes it or not.
[16:24.100 --> 16:36.400]  Even Fred Thompson is on there talking about, and he calls us a democracy and what really gets me about this video is not a single one of the militia members jumps back on that and says we are not a democracy.
[16:36.400 --> 16:49.400]  We've never been a democracy. We weren't founded as a democracy. Stop calling it a democracy. None of them addressed that. That part bothered me because it seems like on some points they don't fully get it either.
[16:49.400 --> 17:00.400]  Anyway, on the other side, we'll start taking calls 512-646-1984. We will be right back.
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[19:11.400 --> 19:37.400]  All right folks, we are back.
[19:37.400 --> 19:52.400]  Call in number 512-646-1984. We are going to start taking your calls. Again, I do not have a call screener at the moment. It is just me, so I'm going to remind everyone when you call in, please do not use wireless headsets.
[19:52.400 --> 20:11.400]  Do not use any type of headset. Don't use your speakerphone. Do not be cursing while you're waiting online because if I pick it up and you're not paying attention, I will hear and the audience will hear everything going on in the background no matter what you're saying, and that is not always a good thing.
[20:11.400 --> 20:25.400]  So please keep your phone muted or whatever until I pick you up. I will have to go unless there's something already been up here from where you've called in before. I will have to just use your phone number to call out to you.
[20:25.400 --> 20:33.400]  Right now, though, we're going to start with, I believe it's Martichet in Tennessee. Martichet?
[20:33.400 --> 20:34.400]  How you doing?
[20:34.400 --> 20:36.400]  All right, how are you?
[20:36.400 --> 20:38.400]  Yeah, good. How you doing, sir?
[20:38.400 --> 20:43.400]  I'm doing fine. Can you get a little more into your phone there? You're a little bit low-sounding.
[20:43.400 --> 20:44.400]  Can you hear me now?
[20:44.400 --> 20:46.400]  Yeah, that's better. Go ahead.
[20:46.400 --> 21:04.400]  All right, I've been keeping track with you and studying with you for the past couple of weeks or whatnot, and everybody's different. I've been trying to keep your script and everything, and I knew that I was going to have a situation and I had one.
[21:04.400 --> 21:10.400]  And I always said that, you know what I'm saying, I'm going to try to be courteous and do everything that I was told.
[21:10.400 --> 21:35.400]  And through my studies, I also found another paper in there from, instead of the Constitution, a musical juxtaposition from a Supreme Court, a judge made out a notice for us to stick it to the courts and get it notarized, and we can go to the Kirkland courts and get that notarized also.
[21:35.400 --> 21:45.400]  So I had that paperwork with me, and I got stopped on traveling to full Florida. I got stopped in Ashburn, Georgia.
[21:45.400 --> 21:46.400]  Georgia?
[21:46.400 --> 22:01.400]  Yeah, Ashburn, Georgia. And you called me over, I'm like, okay, well, I'm going to try to be courteous to this director. It's probably going to go down. I'm a black guy, dreadlocks, and I was traveling with a Mexican friend, and you know what I'm saying?
[22:01.400 --> 22:06.400]  I saw you in trouble. That profile was high that day.
[22:06.400 --> 22:16.400]  What? And then it was a city police that pulled me over, too. They pulled me over. I'm sitting here like, look, you got your emergency lights on.
[22:16.400 --> 22:32.400]  Is there a problem? What's the emergency? They're like, yeah, I'll let you know what the emergency is after you give me your license and registration. I said, again, what's the emergency and all that good stuff.
[22:32.400 --> 22:47.400]  So it finally came down to it. I gave him that document, and I'm like, listen, I don't know what she's talking about, but I'm not driving. He's like, well, I pulled you over because you were speeding. I'm like, well, I don't know how you have to be speeding because I'm not driving.
[22:47.400 --> 22:56.400]  They were like, well, I got you on state driving and all this, and I'm looking at him like, look, I just told you you're not driving. Now you're telling me you got me on state driving. I don't know what the hell you talking about.
[22:56.400 --> 23:09.400]  I'm trying to give you my paperwork, but you don't want to accept my paperwork. You keep on trying to ask for ID. And he was like, well, I guess there was a speed track that they set up.
[23:09.400 --> 23:20.400]  And they were like, well, I got my lieutenant on the way anyways and she wanted to cooperate. I'm like, well, I don't care what you got on the way. I'm still asking you why you stopped me. Why am I under arrest?
[23:20.400 --> 23:29.400]  Well, you're not under arrest. I'm like, yes, I am under arrest. You got flashing lights behind me. I actually was on emergency and you haven't told me what the emergency is.
[23:29.400 --> 23:41.400]  If you need my assistance, that means I'm under arrest. I'm stopping you for a speed and all this. I'm like, well, okay, if that's what you're going to stop me for, you might take it and let me go.
[23:41.400 --> 23:52.400]  And then I gave him my paperwork. He wouldn't deal with it. He didn't want to look at the paperwork. Then the lieutenant came to the car. He tried to run the same gang on me, telling me, well, I have to get out of the car and all this.
[23:52.400 --> 24:04.400]  I'm like, I'm not getting out of nothing until you tell me what crime I committed. Why do I need to get out of the car? And he was saying, what authority do you have to even stop me?
[24:04.400 --> 24:16.400]  So they were like, well, I'm a police officer and all this good stuff. So I try to come out to it. They threatened to break my window because they wanted me to roll my window down.
[24:16.400 --> 24:28.400]  I'm like, no, I'm not going to roll it down. It's like eight officers out here. I'm not rolling anything now. Then when they asked me to, when they were like, well, if you don't roll down your window, we're going to break your window.
[24:28.400 --> 24:39.400]  I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I try to act accordingly and be, you know what I'm saying? Especially when I'm trying to do stuff by law. But when he says he's going to break my window, I slip.
[24:39.400 --> 24:49.400]  I went and said, I told him, I'm like, listen, I've been trying to be kind to you this whole time, but now you're threatening me. So all the good nature went out the window.
[24:49.400 --> 25:00.400]  I went to testing them out. I went to everything in the book and saying, I'm like, you know what? You already threatened me. You come and get me now. You know what I'm saying? I asked you what crime have I committed.
[25:00.400 --> 25:13.400]  I try to authenticate the recording as much as I could. I made them, I made sure that they said that name and everything. But the only thing was I was a little out of order in the car.
[25:13.400 --> 25:22.400]  I thought because after he threatened me with that, breaking my window, I went off. So, you know what I'm saying? The passenger was scared. He was trying to get out the car.
[25:22.400 --> 25:32.400]  So I like, no, I said, it's all right. I gave him, I had 400 out of my pocket. I gave him that money and I like, look, you'll get home. I said, I'm tired of this.
[25:32.400 --> 25:43.400]  I'm sorry. Sorry about that. He just told me that he does not care about my, this paperwork. He said that, well, this paperwork is signed out of Tennessee. And that doesn't mean anything to us.
[25:43.400 --> 25:53.400]  I'm like, well, if you read that, that federal court judge applied that for all states. And then it was like, well, we don't recognize this.
[25:53.400 --> 26:03.400]  I'm like, well, this is the Constitution. This was, you know what I'm saying? Got you a job and never say. Well, basically, it went down, it went down a lot uglier than I'm talking about, but I don't want to hold up too much of your time.
[26:03.400 --> 26:18.400]  And I don't want to say too much on air where it's not appropriate. But it was a very ugly, you know what I'm saying? So we came down to it, smashed my window, and then pulled me, and then pulled me and the occupant out of the vehicle.
[26:18.400 --> 26:29.400]  And before that, he told us we were on arrest. I'm like, what am I arrested for? They said, well, I'm under arrest for speeding. So I told them I'm not getting out of the vehicle. They're trying to get sick of hands.
[26:29.400 --> 26:32.400]  And I told them to remove their hands and I'm about to roll them out.
[26:32.400 --> 26:35.400]  Okay. Can I ask you a question? Yes, sir.
[26:35.400 --> 26:40.400]  If you're not driving, why are you saying you're in a vehicle?
[26:40.400 --> 26:44.400]  I didn't, I didn't say vehicle. I didn't say vehicle.
[26:44.400 --> 26:50.400]  Well, you said vehicle every single time here so far, so are you sure you didn't say vehicle at that time?
[26:50.400 --> 26:56.400]  Yes. Yes, I didn't say vehicle at that time. I said it because I'm trying to hurry up and explain to you so I don't want to miss your time.
[26:56.400 --> 26:57.400]  Okay.
[26:57.400 --> 27:12.400]  I had a paperwork with me that says that I have the right to travel and the above is being witnessed. It has my name and everything on it, saying that we have a constitutional right to travel.
[27:12.400 --> 27:16.400]  And all the, as far as they had case studies in there and everything.
[27:16.400 --> 27:23.400]  So when they took me out of it, they took me there and told me that I was being arrested for speeding.
[27:23.400 --> 27:27.400]  I said, speeding? I'm like, fine. You know what I'm saying? I sound stupid.
[27:27.400 --> 27:33.400]  But just in the ambulance came, got the glass off. I did not protect myself because I was so angry.
[27:33.400 --> 27:36.400]  You know what I'm saying? I'm like, man, go ahead, do whatever you want to.
[27:36.400 --> 27:43.400]  I actually sat near the window and I did not protect myself when they, so I did. I did get a cut on top of my eye.
[27:43.400 --> 27:48.400]  I had glass in my eye. So they called ambulance right there. The ambulance got the glass out of my eye and everything.
[27:48.400 --> 27:55.400]  Then I was speaking about, you know, I'm still upset at the time and the ambulance lady is trying to tell me, like, you know what?
[27:55.400 --> 27:58.400]  Why are you doing all this? You should have just given me your business.
[27:58.400 --> 28:08.400]  I'm like, listen, your parents, your grandparents, somebody in your family didn't die for these rights and now you're going to tell me I'm crazy for taking a nice thick set of face.
[28:08.400 --> 28:12.400]  You know what I'm saying? So then that's when it kind of hit her. Like, you know what I'm saying?
[28:12.400 --> 28:19.400]  She kind of sat there listening to me while I was handcuffed on the floor. Then she kind of understood, like, it's not just because...
[28:19.400 --> 28:28.400]  Because I had valid, I had a valid driver's license and registration insurance and everything. I just did not opt to give it to them because it was my right.
[28:28.400 --> 28:34.400]  So when they came down, I'm probably going to start this stupid and loose in a stupid way about how you're going to lose a job and all this stuff.
[28:34.400 --> 28:41.400]  Then that's when they started, everybody started kind of paying attention to her, like, well, well, now, then they said that I was under investigation.
[28:41.400 --> 28:44.400]  I'm like, wait a minute. How the hell am I under investigation now?
[28:44.400 --> 28:55.400]  You know, told me I was going to rescue you for speed and broke my window and kidding at me and now you're going to take me to jail and tell me and my passenger that we're under investigation.
[28:55.400 --> 29:05.400]  So they brought us to this jail, no matter straight to jail, and then they had us sitting there for close to 48 hours.
[29:05.400 --> 29:07.400]  Then after that...
[29:07.400 --> 29:10.400]  What did they charge the person in the car with you with?
[29:10.400 --> 29:20.400]  They charged him with obstructing a police officer because he would not open his door.
[29:20.400 --> 29:23.400]  There's no requirement that he opened the door?
[29:23.400 --> 29:34.400]  Well, that's what they charge him with. I mean, I understand that. They charge him with obstructing officers but not opening the door.
[29:34.400 --> 29:36.400]  Yeah, that ain't going to lie.
[29:36.400 --> 29:43.400]  Okay, well, hang on just a second. We're going to take a break and then we'll wrap this up on the other side, okay?
[29:43.400 --> 29:45.400]  Okay.
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[33:31.400 --> 33:52.400]  Hi folks, we are back. This is Rulelaw Radio and we are going to finish up with Martichay.
[33:52.400 --> 34:00.400]  Martichay, just before we get started on this again, just remember Debra's not happy with you or me for letting you get away with that, so don't keep that clean will ya?
[34:00.400 --> 34:06.400]  Yeah, I mean, yes, I think yes first. Alright, that's fine by that.
[34:06.400 --> 34:13.400]  Alright, so now, Debra, there's a lot of people in jail. I mean, I'm in jail, what am I here to be in here for?
[34:13.400 --> 34:23.400]  The jail's like, well, we don't know. Right now, they didn't have 48 hours to charge you and you don't have no charges right now, so what happened?
[34:23.400 --> 34:31.400]  I'm like, well, they stopped me first and they said there I was speeding. I told them there I wasn't driving, I was traveling and they got upset.
[34:31.400 --> 34:46.400]  So, like, we don't know. So finally, over two days later of sitting isolated in the booking area and there was a cold room, some judge come down, some judge come down to see us.
[34:46.400 --> 35:00.400]  I'm like, and it's on a Sunday. And I hit him like, man, how's something wrong with this? So the judge didn't talk to him and he's not too, too savvy, but because they said that separated, but he knew something was wrong.
[35:00.400 --> 35:06.400]  He's like, well, did I just see on a Sunday talking to me about something? I'm not, I'm just not going to say nothing, so something's all wrong.
[35:06.400 --> 35:23.400]  So the judge didn't talk to him and then they pulled me out. You know, like I said, I was acting real rude, extremely rude after the officers told me that they didn't give a care about our Constitution.
[35:23.400 --> 35:43.400]  And then I went off. So I was surprised when the judge was right. The judge was telling me that he appreciated, he commended what I was doing and he appreciated that I did not get violent once the cops apprehended me.
[35:43.400 --> 35:56.400]  So I'm going to say like, basically, the judge was telling me that he saw everything. He saw everything. And I guess they took my paperwork that I gave them from the notice, the notice from the federal court.
[35:56.400 --> 36:11.400]  They took that and went, and I guess they were trying to get warrants on us. So they took that paper and went to that judge or some other judge and try to get warrants out on us while we were under investigation or something.
[36:11.400 --> 36:20.400]  So when he came in, when he was talking to me, basically he was telling me that he saw everything and heard everything that I said. And he was saying, I was right.
[36:20.400 --> 36:21.400]  Who heard it?
[36:21.400 --> 36:27.400]  Like the judge, it just came to pass on Sunday.
[36:27.400 --> 36:32.400]  Right. But I mean, he heard, he watched the video or something?
[36:32.400 --> 36:33.400]  Yeah.
[36:33.400 --> 36:34.400]  When did he do that?
[36:34.400 --> 36:53.400]  He told me, I guess when, because after they brought us, after they brought us to jail station, they took that, they took the paperwork that I had, the legal notice that I had from the Supreme Court and took that with them to go show the judge and try to get warrants on us.
[36:53.400 --> 37:07.400]  So they, that's what the jail man, that's what the C.O. told us. They called it a firing citizen paper. I didn't even know it was there. I just knew it. The paper was telling me that I had rights.
[37:07.400 --> 37:21.400]  I printed it up and put it in proper form. And they were like, well, this bottom citizen paper, and when I saw them grab it, I saw them grab the identification paperwork that I gave them out my window.
[37:21.400 --> 37:35.400]  And they took that and, you know, wait, they took it to the judge to try to explain the situation and get warrants on us. That's what the correctional officer explained to me that officers were trying to do.
[37:35.400 --> 37:39.400]  That's why I didn't have any charges in the system and they couldn't tell me anything.
[37:39.400 --> 37:56.400]  So when the judge came down to see us, the judge came down to see me. He said, well, we got these, they're charging with you with these citations. But while he's talking to me, he's like, well, I have to commend the way you acted at this time.
[37:56.400 --> 38:10.400]  And I thought he was going to be all over. I mean, I said, I didn't get out of place. I wasn't physical. But once he crossed that line and told me, like, my rights ain't, I mean, my rights ain't nothing.
[38:10.400 --> 38:23.400]  I was off. And the judge was like, well, you know what I'm saying, I really commend you for this and that. And he was really talking to me in a manner where I was like, man, something was going on.
[38:23.400 --> 38:35.400]  He said, I thought, but when he came down to it, he was telling me that, well, they charged me with driving with a suspended license from Florida, which I didn't even give him no identification of.
[38:35.400 --> 38:49.400]  All I gave him was the paperwork, my name, my address, and my birthday. And then my driver's license is out of Richmond, Virginia.
[38:49.400 --> 38:55.400]  So they charged me with driving with a suspended Florida driver's license.
[38:55.400 --> 39:06.400]  What's the car driver's driver's license? Speed. And also, and then they said I was going 21 over 21 over the speed limit.
[39:06.400 --> 39:13.400]  It comes from super speed. And I know that's a lot because I do remember what speed I was traveling.
[39:13.400 --> 39:25.400]  So they said that I was a super speeder and driving with a suspended Florida driver's license, no insurance, and they crack in my front windshield.
[39:25.400 --> 39:32.400]  That's what they arrested me for. That's what they charged me for. And that's what I'm in there for.
[39:32.400 --> 39:44.400]  Okay. So the judge asked if I had any questions for him. Now, all I had to ask was, is the highest authority in your court or is the Constitution?
[39:44.400 --> 39:56.400]  And he told me, he told me, yes, it is. And then it seemed like he was trying to convince me, he was telling me that, well, the fight that I'm about to put up isn't, am I sure if I want to do it?
[39:56.400 --> 40:04.400]  Because he was trying to, he was trying to, he told me that my court was January 27. I'm like, okay. And he was like, well, are you going to be able to bond out?
[40:04.400 --> 40:10.400]  I told him no. And he was like, what's the, I'm not. I'm like, well, it's going to be too, it's not going to be too much money.
[40:10.400 --> 40:20.400]  My wife just had a baby at the time we bonded out on anything petty. And he was like, well, you know, I don't think it's a good idea for you to stay in here that long.
[40:20.400 --> 40:30.400]  You know, we, we, we can work this out where you complete no contest and all this. I'm like, no, this is a plea of honor.
[40:30.400 --> 40:39.400]  No, no, it's not. Now that was, can I appeal that? And can I do, you're like, no, I like, so yeah, that's a plea of guilt.
[40:39.400 --> 40:50.400]  Well, if you want to, you're saying, if you want to bang your head against the concrete wall, I'm sitting here like, no, you know, that's not it.
[40:50.400 --> 41:04.400]  It's the constitution needed to be upheld. The constitution needed to be upheld. And he was like, well, then I suspect that you'll be having your emotions in proper form for me to look over them and all this good stuff.
[41:04.400 --> 41:16.400]  I like, okay, well, thank you for coming out here and telling me that I'm arrested, that the police officer arrested me for driving on a Florida suspended driver's license, which I did not give him no ID.
[41:16.400 --> 41:40.400]  No, I did not give him a driver's license and speeding and cracking the window shield and they charged me with saying they charged my passenger with the law enforcement, something, obstruction to a law, yeah, obstruction to a law officer.
[41:40.400 --> 41:46.400]  Yeah.
[41:46.400 --> 42:00.400]  And never read me no right, no, nothing, never read us any right after they put us under arrest, nothing, not even when we were in jail.
[42:00.400 --> 42:11.400]  Well, that sounds about par, but you're not in that state, correct? That's not where you live.
[42:11.400 --> 42:12.400]  No sir.
[42:12.400 --> 42:16.400]  Okay, are you going to go back and fight it?
[42:16.400 --> 42:32.400]  I have to, there's no, there's no, well, and that's all, that's one thing I want to ask you also. One, yes, I want to, and I know it's going to cost me, because I got to, I'm just going to speak, so I got to go back and forth.
[42:32.400 --> 42:48.400]  But as in, I feel, from what I'm hearing, from what I'm reading, I feel as if there needs to be a change, and if there needs to be a change, I can't just sit here and not do anything when I have the opportunity, especially if I fought for it.
[42:48.400 --> 42:59.400]  If I fought for it and had to continue fighting for it, as long as I'm in the right, and I have understanding, then yes, I will do what, and get a second job to get that gas money to go down there.
[42:59.400 --> 43:06.400]  Whatever I need to do to survive, to help all of us make a move.
[43:06.400 --> 43:16.400]  I want to make it big, but I was, it was three different police stations, divisions out there, that they surrounded my car. I mean, it was ugly.
[43:16.400 --> 43:23.400]  That's why, and I know I could get the video tape and all that good stuff, and I made it, I made it a big scene enough for it to be ugly.
[43:23.400 --> 43:32.400]  And I guess that's what the judge was thinking, because he had to think that once they got me out of the car, it was going to be on.
[43:32.400 --> 43:39.400]  But he said that I'm well spoken, and he likes the way I carry my things, and he thinks it's the way it is.
[43:39.400 --> 43:45.400]  Well, I wish you luck with it, man. If you better study up on Georgia court procedure.
[43:45.400 --> 43:52.400]  All right, and make sure you get copies of the case law you're going to be using at the federal level to trump whatever they say they're going to be doing.
[43:52.400 --> 43:56.400]  All right, Martin State, I'm going to pick up somebody else on the other side. Thanks for calling in.
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[46:14.400 --> 46:26.400]  All right, folks, we are back.
[46:26.400 --> 46:32.400]  This is Rule of Law Radio Monday Night Call-In Show, and Martin State, once again, thanks for calling in.
[46:32.400 --> 46:38.400]  And I appreciate the efforts of what you're going through, man, but, again, don't go in there unprepared.
[46:38.400 --> 46:46.400]  Get your studying done, go in with the right attitude and the right information, and make them pay for what they did.
[46:46.400 --> 46:52.400]  That being said, we're now going to pick up Truth Raider in Oregon. Raider, what can we do for you?
[46:52.400 --> 46:55.400]  Hey, Nitty. Wow, what a horror story.
[46:55.400 --> 46:59.400]  Yeah, there will be more before there are less.
[46:59.400 --> 47:08.400]  My, I was just thinking to myself, man, just invoke, protect, and demand, and shut up, keep shutting up, and shut up some more.
[47:08.400 --> 47:16.400]  Yeah, the only thing I've got to say about what Martin State confessed up to doing is the fact that that video will be used against him later.
[47:16.400 --> 47:26.400]  When he lost control of himself, he lost control of the outcome of the case in the eyes of a jury, because a jury is not going to react well to that.
[47:26.400 --> 47:33.400]  That's exactly the reason why I try to get you folks to understand you need to make sure that you keep self-control.
[47:33.400 --> 47:36.400]  It doesn't matter what the other side says they're going to do.
[47:36.400 --> 47:42.400]  What matters is you paint the picture in the correct context of what they do do.
[47:42.400 --> 47:48.400]  If they say they're going to break your window, officer, all I've done is invoke my protected rights.
[47:48.400 --> 47:59.400]  Are you now telling me that you intend to cause damage to my private property and or possibly to myself simply because I invoke the right that you want me to waive?
[47:59.400 --> 48:01.400]  That's all it takes.
[48:01.400 --> 48:03.400]  Don't lose control of yourself.
[48:03.400 --> 48:09.400]  That's a bad place to put yourself if and when that video gets introduced into evidence.
[48:09.400 --> 48:11.400]  All right, go ahead, Raider.
[48:11.400 --> 48:12.400]  That's right.
[48:12.400 --> 48:21.400]  What I would do in that situation, I'd sit under duress, I'm not going to resist, put my hands on the wheel, and let the enemy make the mistake.
[48:21.400 --> 48:24.400]  Never interrupt your enemy while he's making a mistake.
[48:24.400 --> 48:26.400]  That's exactly what I would do.
[48:26.400 --> 48:28.400]  Okay, well, I got the script.
[48:28.400 --> 48:30.400]  Thank you very much, sir.
[48:30.400 --> 48:38.400]  In return, I'm doing the best I can to promote the show through a law radio traffic night on Monday night with Eddie Craig and doing the best I can in my local area.
[48:38.400 --> 48:42.400]  So you might pick up some calls in the future from the area up here.
[48:42.400 --> 48:45.400]  So I'm doing the best I can.
[48:45.400 --> 48:50.400]  You know, I'll do the best I can to want to get funds available to donate to the cause.
[48:50.400 --> 48:51.400]  And I appreciate it very much.
[48:51.400 --> 48:56.400]  I've got seven pages downloaded, the dues and doubts and all the details, everything to memorize.
[48:56.400 --> 48:59.400]  So I really, really appreciate that.
[48:59.400 --> 49:05.400]  So I'm going to copy them down and put them in the automobile and have them ready for use.
[49:05.400 --> 49:11.400]  The question is, after having that done, what should I be able to get here?
[49:11.400 --> 49:13.400]  This is something that probably you haven't covered.
[49:13.400 --> 49:15.400]  Maybe I've missed it, but you're covering here.
[49:15.400 --> 49:23.400]  But isn't there something called an affidavit of competency to use and travel on the highways and byways and roadways?
[49:23.400 --> 49:24.400]  I have no idea.
[49:24.400 --> 49:29.400]  If there is, it's something that somebody wrote.
[49:29.400 --> 49:30.400]  Right.
[49:30.400 --> 49:41.400]  And when I say somebody, I just, it's just somebody, not somebody in any particular place with any particular authority.
[49:41.400 --> 49:47.400]  But on the premise of having a driver's license, that is to show evidence that of course your commercial ready first and foremost,
[49:47.400 --> 49:56.400]  but it also shows proof and evidence that you are good faculties, competency and responsibilities to be able to.
[49:56.400 --> 50:04.400]  Well, just exactly what proof and evidence can you put into a piece of paper that would prove that and be considered evidence of that?
[50:04.400 --> 50:07.400]  None, not a zip from where I'm sitting.
[50:07.400 --> 50:09.400]  Okay.
[50:09.400 --> 50:17.400]  Well, according to what they structure in the Department of Motor Vehicles of those who are so-called drivers,
[50:17.400 --> 50:25.400]  they have you go through the tests, they have a record, of course, a running record of how your performance is on the roadway.
[50:25.400 --> 50:29.400]  According to traffic stop, et cetera, and things that they find over time.
[50:29.400 --> 50:38.400]  Now, I have no records of anything that's negative in my background, at least for 15 years.
[50:38.400 --> 50:46.400]  So I was wondering if I should come up with something that shows evidence and proof to an officer if I happen to get traffic stop,
[50:46.400 --> 50:56.400]  that I have no responsibilities, I don't have any, I don't have tickets, I'm in full competency.
[50:56.400 --> 50:59.400]  Is there some reason you think his computer won't tell him that?
[50:59.400 --> 51:06.400]  Well, his computer is going to say I'm suspended, that's what he's going to say, because I fired the Department of Motor Vehicles.
[51:06.400 --> 51:09.400]  Yay, I'm happy to say that I fired them.
[51:09.400 --> 51:10.400]  Okay.
[51:10.400 --> 51:13.400]  But now that's what his computer is going to say.
[51:13.400 --> 51:19.400]  Well, how did it get suspended if you gave it back?
[51:19.400 --> 51:31.400]  Well, I just refused to comply with their compulsory purchase of auto insurance to show financial responsibility is something that has not even happened.
[51:31.400 --> 51:38.400]  As you say, I could be forced to buy compulsory auto insurance, real insurance or whatever.
[51:38.400 --> 51:42.400]  If nothing has happened, you haven't done anything.
[51:42.400 --> 51:44.400]  That's a due process problem, isn't it?
[51:44.400 --> 51:48.400]  Well, there's all kinds of problems with the way they're doing things.
[51:48.400 --> 51:51.400]  Yes.
[51:51.400 --> 52:06.400]  But that's what they did to me as a punishment, is they suspended my license, which I've never used in my entire life.
[52:06.400 --> 52:08.400]  Okay.
[52:08.400 --> 52:14.400]  You know, I just want to get your thoughts on that. What do you think about it? Should come up with something that's alternative?
[52:14.400 --> 52:15.400]  Okay.
[52:15.400 --> 52:20.400]  I'm going to put this out there once more for everybody listening.
[52:20.400 --> 52:27.400]  The transportation script contains everything you need to protect your rights.
[52:27.400 --> 52:43.400]  Anything else that you produce, Canon will be used against you in a court of law and whether and the fact that you're trying to give somebody some document you wrote saying that you are competent and qualified.
[52:43.400 --> 52:47.400]  In other words, how do you declare yourself competent?
[52:47.400 --> 52:51.400]  How does anyone that's never examined you declare you competent?
[52:51.400 --> 53:02.400]  How can another individual declare you competent except under the rules that they themselves made up and call psychiatry or whatever the heck else they want to call it?
[53:02.400 --> 53:06.400]  Okay.
[53:06.400 --> 53:10.400]  You don't need all of that crap. You just don't.
[53:10.400 --> 53:11.400]  Okay.
[53:11.400 --> 53:22.400]  You're free to do whatever you want to do, but the more stuff you try to hand over and the more things you try to put into this, the bigger mess you're going to make for yourself in the long run.
[53:22.400 --> 53:24.400]  Guaranteed.
[53:24.400 --> 53:25.400]  Okay.
[53:25.400 --> 53:32.400]  Keep it simple. Keep it straight. Keep it reserved to the protection of your rights.
[53:32.400 --> 53:33.400]  Period.
[53:33.400 --> 53:47.400]  If I give the other side something they can use against you, well, yeah, I'll pull him over and he immediately began pulling all this medical paperwork saying the psychiatrist is found insane and competent and all this kind of stuff.
[53:47.400 --> 53:53.400]  And if you think that won't happen, think again.
[53:53.400 --> 53:55.400]  Alrighty.
[53:55.400 --> 54:02.400]  So just nothing, just myself behind the wheel exercising my rights is all I need then.
[54:02.400 --> 54:12.400]  Well, what else would you need? I mean, from a logical standpoint, just a common sense standpoint, see, that's the thing that's the big difference between me and lawyers.
[54:12.400 --> 54:13.400]  Okay.
[54:13.400 --> 54:17.400]  You can teach anyone legalese.
[54:17.400 --> 54:19.400]  Okay.
[54:19.400 --> 54:25.400]  But you cannot teach common sense.
[54:25.400 --> 54:30.400]  And after to me, this is a common sense issue right here.
[54:30.400 --> 54:38.400]  Why raise the issue of competency when the burden of proof is never yours to begin with?
[54:38.400 --> 54:41.400]  Alright.
[54:41.400 --> 54:52.400]  Yeah, just something that just ran through my mind and say, well, they structure something to say that you passed a test and that you're qualified to be on the roadways.
[54:52.400 --> 55:00.400]  Yes, but you can prove that that test is absolutely bogus because it's the only time you ever have to take it. The rest of the time you just go in, pay money and get a renewal.
[55:00.400 --> 55:06.400]  They don't test to see if you've lost anything, gained anything or any better or any worse.
[55:06.400 --> 55:10.400]  As long as you pay the fee, you get to renew it, right?
[55:10.400 --> 55:11.400]  Yes.
[55:11.400 --> 55:12.400]  Okay.
[55:12.400 --> 55:13.400]  Same thing with the insurance.
[55:13.400 --> 55:20.400]  How can they legitimize the necessary purchase of insurance when the insurance has nothing to do with your qualifications?
[55:20.400 --> 55:24.400]  Oh, it's to protect everybody else.
[55:24.400 --> 55:28.400]  Well, I'm not responsible for protecting everybody else.
[55:28.400 --> 55:33.400]  If I do something, then I'm required to cover it, period.
[55:33.400 --> 55:35.400]  Well, but that's what the insurance is for.
[55:35.400 --> 55:40.400]  Yeah, but the thing is you didn't make it mandatory for the insurance to do that.
[55:40.400 --> 55:49.400]  You made it mandatory for us to pay for the insurance, but you did not make it mandatory for the insurance company to pay out.
[55:49.400 --> 55:53.400]  And then if they prove fraud, just sue to get it back.
[55:53.400 --> 56:09.400]  Instead, you let them presume fraud from the beginning and make the other side have to fight to get paid and sue me in court so nothing's changed except the amount of profit the insurance company gets to make because people get frustrated and give up.
[56:09.400 --> 56:13.400]  That's my issue with this bogus insurance scheme.
[56:13.400 --> 56:20.400]  Right, right. No, I feel that way a thousand percent myself because I was all commercial anyway.
[56:20.400 --> 56:29.400]  Everything is related to so, you know, and that's what we're trying to prove that we're not commercial from the get-go.
[56:29.400 --> 56:30.400]  All right.
[56:30.400 --> 56:32.400]  Okay, I'll stand down.
[56:32.400 --> 56:33.400]  Okay.
[56:33.400 --> 56:34.400]  Thanks for going in.
[56:34.400 --> 56:42.400]  Just do my seven pages there and just read it through, make some copies, put it in the automobile.
[56:42.400 --> 56:43.400]  Thanks.
[56:43.400 --> 56:44.400]  Thanks a million.
[56:44.400 --> 56:45.400]  You're welcome.
[56:45.400 --> 56:46.400]  Have a good night.
[56:46.400 --> 56:48.400]  We'll talk to you a little bit later.
[56:48.400 --> 56:49.400]  Okay.
[56:49.400 --> 56:50.400]  All right.
[56:50.400 --> 56:51.400]  Bye-bye.
[56:51.400 --> 56:52.400]  All right.
[56:52.400 --> 56:56.400]  Charles in Georgia, I've got about a minute and a half.
[56:56.400 --> 56:59.400]  I'm going to have to cut you off, so let's get you rolling.
[56:59.400 --> 57:01.400]  How's it going, Eddie?
[57:01.400 --> 57:02.400]  Great.
[57:02.400 --> 57:03.400]  Good.
[57:03.400 --> 57:08.400]  Hey, listen, I have a family matter to discuss with you.
[57:08.400 --> 57:16.400]  I called in probably about a month ago or so and asked them for advice for me.
[57:16.400 --> 57:26.400]  Now, I am the victim of somebody's paranoia here.
[57:26.400 --> 57:29.400]  You're a victim of someone's paranoia?
[57:29.400 --> 57:30.400]  Yes.
[57:30.400 --> 57:31.400]  Okay.
[57:31.400 --> 57:39.400]  I have a stalking ex-party temporary protective order served to me.
[57:39.400 --> 57:40.400]  Okay.
[57:40.400 --> 57:48.400]  When the officer brought this thing to the house here, he knocked on the door.
[57:48.400 --> 57:54.400]  And I told him first, I asked him who it was and he identified himself as the officer.
[57:54.400 --> 57:56.400]  So, I hit the news there.
[57:56.400 --> 58:00.400]  Yeah, we got about 30 more seconds.
[58:00.400 --> 58:07.400]  When he identified himself as the officer, I told him, I asked him, you know, do you
[58:07.400 --> 58:08.400]  have a warrant?
[58:08.400 --> 58:09.400]  He said no.
[58:09.400 --> 58:10.400]  So, you have a subpoena.
[58:10.400 --> 58:11.400]  He said no.
[58:11.400 --> 58:12.400]  So, I asked him to leave promptly.
[58:12.400 --> 58:13.400]  I asked him to leave.
[58:13.400 --> 58:14.400]  He said no, I need you to look at something.
[58:14.400 --> 58:15.400]  I said no.
[58:15.400 --> 58:22.400]  So, you can put it on the floor or you can put it in the mailbox, but I'm not opening this
[58:22.400 --> 58:23.400]  door here.
[58:23.400 --> 58:29.400]  Okay, Charles, hold that thought just one second and we'll pick you up when we get back,
[58:29.400 --> 58:30.400]  alright?
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[01:03:39.320 --> 01:03:40.320]  Call in number 512-646-1984.
[01:03:40.320 --> 01:03:41.320]  We are currently talking with Charles in Georgia.
[01:03:41.320 --> 01:03:42.320]  All right, Charles, please continue.
[01:03:42.320 --> 01:03:43.320]  Okay, buddy.
[01:03:43.320 --> 01:03:52.640]  So I'm going to make a little bit of a long story real short with this one.
[01:03:52.640 --> 01:03:54.600]  The officer ended up leaving.
[01:03:54.600 --> 01:03:57.840]  He asked me to come to the window and look at this, look at what he had.
[01:03:57.840 --> 01:04:00.080]  I told him I wasn't coming to the window.
[01:04:00.080 --> 01:04:07.280]  This is the second time I want to ask you to leave and I'm not, you know, and whatever
[01:04:07.280 --> 01:04:09.120]  you have, you're not telling me what it is.
[01:04:09.120 --> 01:04:11.480]  I'm not going to come look out the window.
[01:04:11.480 --> 01:04:19.200]  So he continued to bark for about two minutes and then finally we just went ahead and left.
[01:04:19.200 --> 01:04:24.080]  But that was just the first part of a long story, just a little bit of a deal there.
[01:04:24.080 --> 01:04:28.920]  I want to get to the meat of what I'm calling about.
[01:04:28.920 --> 01:04:29.920]  I was served with this.
[01:04:29.920 --> 01:04:35.840]  I mean, I, you know, at the end, I went up to the courthouse and got this, and got this
[01:04:35.840 --> 01:04:37.640]  order because that's what he was talking about.
[01:04:37.640 --> 01:04:44.840]  So he said I had a stalking order and that kind of made my heart jump up into my throat
[01:04:44.840 --> 01:04:47.320]  to find out that I had this order against me.
[01:04:47.320 --> 01:04:50.800]  So I went to the courthouse the next day and picked this thing up and tried to see what
[01:04:50.800 --> 01:04:52.800]  was going on.
[01:04:52.800 --> 01:04:59.720]  Well, they gave me 10 days, we're going to have this hearing, this petition, this stalking
[01:04:59.720 --> 01:05:02.520]  petition order heard.
[01:05:02.520 --> 01:05:06.240]  So I'm here, I've done a lot of work on it.
[01:05:06.240 --> 01:05:09.440]  I just need to figure out which road I need to go.
[01:05:09.440 --> 01:05:16.320]  What I would like to do is have an examining trial before this court to figure out what
[01:05:16.320 --> 01:05:24.360]  kind of evidence does this, does the adverse party have against me and should I, so should
[01:05:24.360 --> 01:05:26.200]  I file for an examining trial?
[01:05:26.200 --> 01:05:31.760]  Well, I don't know, does Georgia allow examining trials in these cases for these things?
[01:05:31.760 --> 01:05:38.520]  See, the difference in examining trial is usually held only in relation to an actual
[01:05:38.520 --> 01:05:49.040]  charge and these types of cases are for protective orders and things like that.
[01:05:49.040 --> 01:05:57.120]  You have the right to go in and answer them, but generally they're granted out of hand
[01:05:57.120 --> 01:06:01.080]  and they can be granted with just one party rather than both.
[01:06:01.080 --> 01:06:05.560]  So you're not guaranteed a right to argue your side of anything usually when they're
[01:06:05.560 --> 01:06:09.280]  looking at a protective order of some kind.
[01:06:09.280 --> 01:06:14.040]  If Georgia has different rules on that, then by all means go for it.
[01:06:14.040 --> 01:06:18.240]  But as to what you can demand, that's all covered by whatever the Georgia Rules of Procedure
[01:06:18.240 --> 01:06:23.680]  are for these types of hearings and procedures.
[01:06:23.680 --> 01:06:30.280]  I see, I see, okay.
[01:06:30.280 --> 01:06:36.040]  My next question, I'm glad you covered that up there because I needed to know what was
[01:06:36.040 --> 01:06:37.040]  going on.
[01:06:37.040 --> 01:06:43.280]  My next question is, should I file in this kind of hearing, is it allowable for me to
[01:06:43.280 --> 01:06:46.880]  file a motion in Lemony?
[01:06:46.880 --> 01:06:53.320]  Well, again, a motion in Lemony is something that's done prior to a trial.
[01:06:53.320 --> 01:06:57.880]  I doubt very seriously if you're going to be able to bring up any issues at Lemony in
[01:06:57.880 --> 01:07:00.360]  the request for a protective order.
[01:07:00.360 --> 01:07:04.200]  But again, you're going to have to check and see what the Rules of Procedure for Georgia
[01:07:04.200 --> 01:07:05.200]  say.
[01:07:05.200 --> 01:07:10.200]  Okay, okay.
[01:07:10.200 --> 01:07:22.360]  Now, this is a civil matter.
[01:07:22.360 --> 01:07:30.640]  Well, the matter underlying it may be civil and the protective order may be civil, but
[01:07:30.640 --> 01:07:38.280]  it will quickly become criminal if it's granted and it's violated.
[01:07:38.280 --> 01:07:40.280]  Right.
[01:07:40.280 --> 01:07:47.760]  Well, that's what I'm trying to avoid at all costs.
[01:07:47.760 --> 01:07:55.240]  And I'm trying to follow the procedures, trying to go down the right path to avoid that.
[01:07:55.240 --> 01:08:01.080]  Because we stay in a small town here in Georgia and it's not like I'm not going to run across
[01:08:01.080 --> 01:08:04.400]  anybody within this small town here in Smyrna.
[01:08:04.400 --> 01:08:09.840]  So, you know, just because you see someone don't mean that you need to file some kind
[01:08:09.840 --> 01:08:12.080]  of protective order.
[01:08:12.080 --> 01:08:16.880]  So I'm going to move on with my next question.
[01:08:16.880 --> 01:08:23.920]  You know, this petition and several trials, would it be wise to file it for a jury trial
[01:08:23.920 --> 01:08:24.920]  in this hearing?
[01:08:24.920 --> 01:08:27.440]  You, there will be no jury trials.
[01:08:27.440 --> 01:08:30.120]  This is not a trial.
[01:08:30.120 --> 01:08:32.280]  It's a hearing.
[01:08:32.280 --> 01:08:40.000]  It will be one or both parties and a judge.
[01:08:40.000 --> 01:08:42.280]  Okay.
[01:08:42.280 --> 01:08:45.120]  So this is a hearing.
[01:08:45.120 --> 01:08:48.880]  So this is not something that I can plead but not guilty to.
[01:08:48.880 --> 01:08:49.880]  No.
[01:08:49.880 --> 01:08:52.840]  No, there are no charges.
[01:08:52.840 --> 01:08:59.680]  This is one person telling a judge, I have reason to fear the presence and or threats
[01:08:59.680 --> 01:09:02.680]  from this other person.
[01:09:02.680 --> 01:09:06.160]  Please do something to protect me.
[01:09:06.160 --> 01:09:08.200]  That's all this is.
[01:09:08.200 --> 01:09:14.280]  And the court has the power to issue an order doing exactly that if it can be justified.
[01:09:14.280 --> 01:09:22.080]  But it's not normally a requirement that the person that is being accused of being a threat
[01:09:22.080 --> 01:09:27.520]  has an opportunity to be heard or to be granted.
[01:09:27.520 --> 01:09:32.080]  Now if they're aware of it, they should certainly be allowed in most states that I'm aware of
[01:09:32.080 --> 01:09:34.320]  to come in and address it.
[01:09:34.320 --> 01:09:39.240]  But in many, there's not a requirement that they even be told until after it's done.
[01:09:39.240 --> 01:09:45.200]  Because in your case, they've already got the order, it would appear unless you said
[01:09:45.200 --> 01:09:47.920]  that the guy said, I have a protective order, right?
[01:09:47.920 --> 01:09:48.920]  Yeah.
[01:09:48.920 --> 01:09:52.800]  What I have is a stocking edge party temporary protective order.
[01:09:52.800 --> 01:09:53.800]  Okay.
[01:09:53.800 --> 01:09:55.640]  So they've already got the temporary protective order.
[01:09:55.640 --> 01:10:01.640]  The temporary part in this case means this is in effect until we can hold an actual hearing
[01:10:01.640 --> 01:10:03.760]  where both sides can be heard.
[01:10:03.760 --> 01:10:05.760]  That's correct.
[01:10:05.760 --> 01:10:06.760]  Okay.
[01:10:06.760 --> 01:10:08.360]  Well, that's exactly what's going to happen.
[01:10:08.360 --> 01:10:12.000]  You're going to go in and you're going to present your side and rebuttal of what they're
[01:10:12.000 --> 01:10:14.200]  asking for and why.
[01:10:14.200 --> 01:10:20.920]  If I were you, I would take any other persons with me that have knowledge as to your character
[01:10:20.920 --> 01:10:27.200]  and any interaction between you and the person requesting the order that can tell, testifies
[01:10:27.200 --> 01:10:34.720]  to whether or not the facts being presented against you are true or they are false.
[01:10:34.720 --> 01:10:39.760]  That will determine whether or not the order gets granted, at which point you may be able
[01:10:39.760 --> 01:10:48.440]  to ask for sanctions and or something against the other side for doing it maliciously when
[01:10:48.440 --> 01:10:50.440]  there was no cause for it.
[01:10:50.440 --> 01:10:55.400]  It was done just to impugn your character.
[01:10:55.400 --> 01:11:01.280]  But you're going to have to bring the stuff to prove that, whatever that might be, because
[01:11:01.280 --> 01:11:02.800]  I don't know what it is.
[01:11:02.800 --> 01:11:08.080]  Now, I have plenty here and I've been preparing for this since they gave me the order on the
[01:11:08.080 --> 01:11:16.840]  11th last week and the hearing is coming up on the 21st really fast.
[01:11:16.840 --> 01:11:20.400]  Another thing I wanted to ask is if possible for me to plead out, well, I guess there's
[01:11:20.400 --> 01:11:21.400]  nothing to plead.
[01:11:21.400 --> 01:11:22.400]  You can't plead.
[01:11:22.400 --> 01:11:25.920]  There's nothing to plead here.
[01:11:25.920 --> 01:11:26.920]  Okay.
[01:11:26.920 --> 01:11:29.920]  I guess I have to show up.
[01:11:29.920 --> 01:11:30.920]  I just can't.
[01:11:30.920 --> 01:11:31.920]  I can't answer.
[01:11:31.920 --> 01:11:36.240]  Well, you have to show up if you're going to rebut it, otherwise it's going to get granted
[01:11:36.240 --> 01:11:39.240]  out of hand.
[01:11:39.240 --> 01:11:41.240]  Right.
[01:11:41.240 --> 01:11:42.240]  Okay.
[01:11:42.240 --> 01:11:48.080]  So, when I do get there, should I move to vacate this, this protective order?
[01:11:48.080 --> 01:11:54.640]  You can, well, the whole thing is, if you prevail, the order being temporary will no
[01:11:54.640 --> 01:11:56.520]  longer be enforced.
[01:11:56.520 --> 01:12:02.680]  It will be recalled, or a new order will be written removing the protective order.
[01:12:02.680 --> 01:12:07.560]  But you have to prevail, or the judge has to find that there's not proper grounds to
[01:12:07.560 --> 01:12:11.280]  do that, which means you still prevail.
[01:12:11.280 --> 01:12:16.200]  But if you don't go in there and say and do something, the only voice being heard is
[01:12:16.200 --> 01:12:18.040]  that on the other side.
[01:12:18.040 --> 01:12:21.280]  And without anything opposing them, they can say and do anything they want and get the
[01:12:21.280 --> 01:12:23.280]  order granted.
[01:12:23.280 --> 01:12:27.400]  Well, I'm definitely going to show up.
[01:12:27.400 --> 01:12:28.600]  I'm definitely going to be there.
[01:12:28.600 --> 01:12:29.600]  I'm definitely going to be there.
[01:12:29.600 --> 01:12:34.120]  Then definitely go in there with your head on straight and your attitude straight.
[01:12:34.120 --> 01:12:40.360]  Keep your head, watch your mouth, and address specifically what is said.
[01:12:40.360 --> 01:12:41.480]  Don't lose your temper.
[01:12:41.480 --> 01:12:43.320]  Don't go off on tangents.
[01:12:43.320 --> 01:12:45.960]  Don't do character assassination.
[01:12:45.960 --> 01:12:51.280]  Rebut whatever is thrown at you and present facts that prove the rebuttal.
[01:12:51.280 --> 01:12:56.360]  That's it.
[01:12:56.360 --> 01:13:01.720]  Because anything you lose control of in that courtroom, the judge will use against you
[01:13:01.720 --> 01:13:06.240]  if he finds it necessary or believes it necessary.
[01:13:06.240 --> 01:13:17.840]  Okay, because I do, in this complaint, I have already written a document refuting everything
[01:13:17.840 --> 01:13:21.040]  that is in this document already.
[01:13:21.040 --> 01:13:24.000]  I already have everything written down.
[01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:27.360]  Then you need to write it down in the form of an affidavit.
[01:13:27.360 --> 01:13:36.360]  Dates, places, people, times, facts, not colorization of it, not anything.
[01:13:36.360 --> 01:13:41.440]  Don't tell a story other than just a story straight by facts.
[01:13:41.440 --> 01:13:45.360]  On such and such date and such and such time, I was in such and such place with such and
[01:13:45.360 --> 01:13:47.000]  such person.
[01:13:47.000 --> 01:13:50.320]  Such and such person did A, such and such person did B.
[01:13:50.320 --> 01:13:57.680]  I did C, I did D, I did E. The result was this and blah, blah, blah.
[01:13:57.680 --> 01:13:59.180]  Okay?
[01:13:59.180 --> 01:14:00.180]  That's it.
[01:14:00.180 --> 01:14:04.200]  Do it as a certified, notarized affidavit.
[01:14:04.200 --> 01:14:08.640]  Present that to the court and say, Judge, everything in this affidavit is a direct
[01:14:08.640 --> 01:14:13.920]  bundle of everything stated in that complaint and if it pleases the court, I will go through
[01:14:13.920 --> 01:14:19.440]  each statement of fact in the complaint and rebut it by the statement of fact in my affidavit
[01:14:19.440 --> 01:14:24.600]  and if you find that I'm incorrect in some way, I'll produce whatever supporting evidence
[01:14:24.600 --> 01:14:27.760]  I need as I go.
[01:14:27.760 --> 01:14:32.720]  So anything you're putting in there to rebut, you bring any witness, any document or anything
[01:14:32.720 --> 01:14:36.960]  of the sort that you have in your possession that supports that fact and rebuts the other
[01:14:36.960 --> 01:14:37.960]  side.
[01:14:37.960 --> 01:14:38.960]  Okay.
[01:14:38.960 --> 01:14:39.960]  Okay.
[01:14:39.960 --> 01:14:40.960]  Excellent.
[01:14:40.960 --> 01:14:41.960]  Excellent.
[01:14:41.960 --> 01:14:42.960]  Excellent.
[01:14:42.960 --> 01:14:43.960]  Excellent.
[01:14:43.960 --> 01:14:44.960]  Excellent.
[01:14:44.960 --> 01:14:52.440]  I wrote these questions down earlier to ask you and you just answered them all with Grace
[01:14:52.440 --> 01:14:54.400]  and I appreciate it very much.
[01:14:54.400 --> 01:14:55.400]  No problem for all of us.
[01:14:55.400 --> 01:14:58.280]  Glad I could help if I could help.
[01:14:58.280 --> 01:15:02.480]  Yeah, I will be taking my affidavit.
[01:15:02.480 --> 01:15:09.400]  I will be making an affidavit in the morning and I can't submit evidence in the morning.
[01:15:09.400 --> 01:15:10.400]  Can I?
[01:15:10.400 --> 01:15:14.440]  No, you're going to need to take it and present it in court on the day in question.
[01:15:14.440 --> 01:15:15.440]  Okay.
[01:15:15.440 --> 01:15:19.440]  Well, that's all I ask.
[01:15:19.440 --> 01:15:20.440]  Okay.
[01:15:20.440 --> 01:15:26.320]  Now, if you do have any documentation, you can attach that to your affidavit and just
[01:15:26.320 --> 01:15:34.800]  in the affidavit make it Defense Exhibit B or Respondent Exhibit A or whatever you want
[01:15:34.800 --> 01:15:40.400]  it needed to be if you have documentation in support of a fact in the affidavit.
[01:15:40.400 --> 01:15:45.080]  But don't put your only copy of that documentation on there.
[01:15:45.080 --> 01:15:50.600]  Just make a copy and put it to it and see Defense Exhibit B copy of.
[01:15:50.600 --> 01:15:51.600]  Okay.
[01:15:51.600 --> 01:15:52.600]  Exactly.
[01:15:52.600 --> 01:15:53.600]  I will.
[01:15:53.600 --> 01:16:01.200]  We'll do and I will be calling you back Monday to let you know the outcome of what happens
[01:16:01.200 --> 01:16:02.200]  on Friday.
[01:16:02.200 --> 01:16:03.200]  All right.
[01:16:03.200 --> 01:16:04.200]  Well, good luck, man.
[01:16:04.200 --> 01:16:05.200]  Thank you very much.
[01:16:05.200 --> 01:16:06.200]  I really do appreciate it.
[01:16:06.200 --> 01:16:08.760]  I appreciate what you guys do there at Truth Radio.
[01:16:08.760 --> 01:16:09.760]  All right.
[01:16:09.760 --> 01:16:10.760]  Well, thank you much.
[01:16:10.760 --> 01:16:11.760]  All right.
[01:16:11.760 --> 01:16:12.760]  All right.
[01:16:12.760 --> 01:16:13.760]  Bye-bye.
[01:16:13.760 --> 01:16:14.760]  All right.
[01:16:14.760 --> 01:16:17.320]  Doug at Indiana, you're going to have to hang on.
[01:16:17.320 --> 01:16:19.880]  I've only got about 40 seconds before we go to break.
[01:16:19.880 --> 01:16:23.080]  But as soon as we get back, I will be picking you up and beginning with you.
[01:16:23.080 --> 01:16:25.560]  Rob, Eric, I see y'all there as well.
[01:16:25.560 --> 01:16:29.280]  We'll pick all of y'all up after we come back from this upcoming break.
[01:16:29.280 --> 01:16:32.480]  But no sense in getting y'all rolling just to have to cut you off again.
[01:16:32.480 --> 01:16:33.480]  See?
[01:16:33.480 --> 01:16:34.480]  There we go.
[01:16:34.480 --> 01:16:35.480]  All right, folks.
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[01:20:03.680 --> 01:20:07.480]  All right, Doug, I'm sorry, I'm gonna take Collin and Marilyn real quick.
[01:20:07.480 --> 01:20:09.680]  He has some information for the previous caller.
[01:20:09.680 --> 01:20:10.680]  Collin, go ahead.
[01:20:10.680 --> 01:20:12.680]  Yeah, you're going in.
[01:20:12.680 --> 01:20:13.680]  Thank you so much.
[01:20:13.680 --> 01:20:18.680]  Yeah, I just went through this, so I think he ought to be prepared in the following manner
[01:20:18.680 --> 01:20:25.560]  the way that worked for me, although it's all another story, but go look up the definition
[01:20:25.560 --> 01:20:32.560]  of the words that they presented as the charges so you know what the definitions of them are
[01:20:32.560 --> 01:20:35.560]  for that state in which you are in.
[01:20:35.560 --> 01:20:40.880]  The setup when you go in there, it actually is a lot like a trial.
[01:20:40.880 --> 01:20:46.560]  I got to cross-examine and that's when I was able to simply point blank ask, did I follow
[01:20:46.560 --> 01:20:52.400]  you because that is the first word in harassment under the section of 208, I believe it is
[01:20:52.400 --> 01:20:55.920]  in Marilyn, of the definition of harassment.
[01:20:55.920 --> 01:21:03.240]  It says to follow someone in a public place or to what was the other one, it had to do
[01:21:03.240 --> 01:21:04.240]  with threatening your body.
[01:21:04.240 --> 01:21:06.520]  I have it right here, but I'm kind of nervous right now.
[01:21:06.520 --> 01:21:07.520]  Yeah, I agree.
[01:21:07.520 --> 01:21:13.880]  He definitely needs to be reading whatever the alleged charge is they're making that
[01:21:13.880 --> 01:21:17.960]  they need protection from him from and so on and so forth.
[01:21:17.960 --> 01:21:18.960]  I have it now.
[01:21:18.960 --> 01:21:26.400]  Stalking is defined as in this section, stalking means a malicious course of conduct which
[01:21:26.400 --> 01:21:33.120]  includes approaching or pursuing another where the person intends or plays or knows recently
[01:21:33.120 --> 01:21:39.760]  should have known the conduct would otherwise be reason to create another in reasonable
[01:21:39.760 --> 01:21:40.760]  fear.
[01:21:40.760 --> 01:21:46.360]  One, not just reasonable fear, but reasonable fear of the following, one of serious bodily
[01:21:46.360 --> 01:21:51.400]  injury, not just bodily injury, but serious bodily injury of an assault in any degree
[01:21:51.400 --> 01:21:58.120]  of rape, sexual assault, a offense as defined in 3Dex 303 and of this article intends, if
[01:21:58.120 --> 01:22:00.840]  or a false imprisonment or death.
[01:22:00.840 --> 01:22:04.760]  So we're talking serious stuff, and what they're doing is they're twisting it to be
[01:22:04.760 --> 01:22:09.840]  something that is really not and it also here in this statute, in order to do it, it must
[01:22:09.840 --> 01:22:15.320]  let me continue that a third person likely will suffer any of the acts listed in item
[01:22:15.320 --> 01:22:20.760]  1, which is to be a bodily harm to the rape or otherwise will until there's a dual thing
[01:22:20.760 --> 01:22:23.960]  that judge has to see clear and convincing, also look it up.
[01:22:23.960 --> 01:22:28.800]  Here it says they must have clear and convincing evidence, okay, prohibited.
[01:22:28.800 --> 01:22:33.640]  The provisions of this section do not apply to the conduct that is one, perform to ensure
[01:22:33.640 --> 01:22:37.920]  compliance with the court order, probably not true in your case, two, perform to carry
[01:22:37.920 --> 01:22:42.520]  out a specific lawful commercial purpose, like in my case it was business, I was there
[01:22:42.520 --> 01:22:48.520]  conducting business, or three, authorized, required, or protected by state, local, or
[01:22:48.520 --> 01:22:49.520]  federal laws.
[01:22:49.520 --> 01:22:52.040]  Freedom of expression is always protected.
[01:22:52.040 --> 01:22:53.040]  And then it goes on.
[01:22:53.040 --> 01:23:01.080]  So I wanted to read that and here's harassment, again, the first word was follow.
[01:23:01.080 --> 01:23:06.320]  A person may not follow another in a, in or about a public place or maliciously engage
[01:23:06.320 --> 01:23:12.200]  in the course of conduct that alarms or seriously annoys the other one with the intent.
[01:23:12.200 --> 01:23:13.200]  There's the intent again.
[01:23:13.200 --> 01:23:20.760]  With the intent to harass, alarm, or annoy the other two after, after, so here's a condition
[01:23:20.760 --> 01:23:28.240]  proceeding, after receiving a reasonable warning or request to stop by or on behalf
[01:23:28.240 --> 01:23:31.600]  of the other, and three, without legal purpose.
[01:23:31.600 --> 01:23:36.040]  In my case I gave the person a note, but in my note it was for a legal purpose to notify
[01:23:36.040 --> 01:23:41.520]  them that they were slandering me without cause, exception, and they went in Maryland
[01:23:41.520 --> 01:23:42.520]  and put an exception.
[01:23:42.520 --> 01:23:44.800]  There's a whole kind of case law on that anyway.
[01:23:44.800 --> 01:23:50.800]  This section does not apply to a peaceful, peaceable activity intended to express a political
[01:23:50.800 --> 01:23:54.280]  view or provide information to others.
[01:23:54.280 --> 01:23:58.200]  So once you look it up and you understand what the elements are, and when you get to
[01:23:58.200 --> 01:24:02.280]  cross-examine them, you will basically like point blank at some point to just stop me
[01:24:02.280 --> 01:24:03.280]  from asking questions.
[01:24:03.280 --> 01:24:08.000]  And so I just went straight for the gut and I said, did I ever follow you?
[01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:09.800]  And she said, no, it was too late.
[01:24:09.800 --> 01:24:13.760]  I said, then I said, did I ever intimidate you?
[01:24:13.760 --> 01:24:14.760]  She's far threatened you.
[01:24:14.760 --> 01:24:16.840]  She said, no, that was it.
[01:24:16.840 --> 01:24:20.960]  And then the other questions I asked, is there any way I could have known that you were uncomfortable
[01:24:20.960 --> 01:24:21.960]  with me?
[01:24:21.960 --> 01:24:22.960]  She said, no.
[01:24:22.960 --> 01:24:27.000]  So there, how can there be any intent if I didn't even know that I was making you uncomfortable,
[01:24:27.000 --> 01:24:28.760]  just because I was wearing a dust mask?
[01:24:28.760 --> 01:24:30.560]  It makes no sense.
[01:24:30.560 --> 01:24:34.720]  But I don't know what your particulars are, but once you understand the statutes themselves
[01:24:34.720 --> 01:24:39.080]  and read them several times and go over and understand it and read it, now you can hold
[01:24:39.080 --> 01:24:43.640]  them to the law, but they have to fulfill the requirements or the elements that's in
[01:24:43.640 --> 01:24:44.640]  that statute.
[01:24:44.640 --> 01:24:47.520]  If they can't do it, that court doesn't have the ability to make a judgment.
[01:24:47.520 --> 01:24:51.240]  Now, of course, they're probably going to make a judgment against you anyway, and then
[01:24:51.240 --> 01:24:52.720]  you have to do, what's the next process?
[01:24:52.720 --> 01:24:55.920]  I was doing a motion to vacate, but we judge, what do you think, then?
[01:24:55.920 --> 01:25:02.960]  Well, sounds reasonable if you've got a judgment against you, but I mean, if you prove that
[01:25:02.960 --> 01:25:10.320]  the facts necessary to commit the act were non-existent, then you should be able to get
[01:25:10.320 --> 01:25:16.920]  it, the judgment void, because there's no act that's consistent with the letter of the
[01:25:16.920 --> 01:25:17.920]  law.
[01:25:17.920 --> 01:25:18.920]  There you go.
[01:25:18.920 --> 01:25:26.040]  I forget exactly what that is, but there's, on the criminal side, there is...
[01:25:26.040 --> 01:25:29.600]  It requires, first of all, you have to have intent.
[01:25:29.600 --> 01:25:34.120]  If I'm doing something, even the judge yourself says, you know, you asking her for help may
[01:25:34.120 --> 01:25:36.000]  have been completely innocent in every fashion.
[01:25:36.000 --> 01:25:37.680]  I just went, okay, I can close my books.
[01:25:37.680 --> 01:25:41.440]  I started leaving because she just told me that she knew that there was no intent.
[01:25:41.440 --> 01:25:43.480]  Nevertheless, a malicious intent.
[01:25:43.480 --> 01:25:48.160]  Yeah, well, that's the judge writing law from the bench.
[01:25:48.160 --> 01:25:52.800]  What you should have done was object it on the record, so that judge objection, one of
[01:25:52.800 --> 01:25:56.000]  the necessary elements is intent.
[01:25:56.000 --> 01:26:00.920]  Do you intend to rewrite the law sitting on that bench, or do you intend to uphold it
[01:26:00.920 --> 01:26:03.240]  as written by the legislature?
[01:26:03.240 --> 01:26:04.240]  Yeah.
[01:26:04.240 --> 01:26:10.800]  Right now, I'm choosing to collect evidence against them so I can show a pattern of unlawful
[01:26:10.800 --> 01:26:11.800]  activity.
[01:26:11.800 --> 01:26:13.120]  So when we do a...
[01:26:13.120 --> 01:26:14.120]  What is it?
[01:26:14.120 --> 01:26:15.120]  A...
[01:26:15.120 --> 01:26:16.120]  With 1980...
[01:26:16.120 --> 01:26:22.400]  Well, the problem is, is you can't touch the judge as long as the judge is acting judicially,
[01:26:22.400 --> 01:26:26.960]  but you have to show that the judge didn't act judicially.
[01:26:26.960 --> 01:26:31.600]  And that's exactly what you would have had to make the objection for, because the judge
[01:26:31.600 --> 01:26:36.400]  cannot act judicially if the judge is attempting to act legislatively.
[01:26:36.400 --> 01:26:37.400]  Mm-hmm.
[01:26:37.400 --> 01:26:38.400]  Mm-hmm.
[01:26:38.400 --> 01:26:39.400]  Okay.
[01:26:39.400 --> 01:26:40.400]  I agree.
[01:26:40.400 --> 01:26:41.400]  I agree.
[01:26:41.400 --> 01:26:42.400]  All right.
[01:26:42.400 --> 01:26:43.400]  Well, anything else, Colin?
[01:26:43.400 --> 01:26:49.400]  We all play that self-book of the guy, huh?
[01:26:49.400 --> 01:26:50.400]  Anything else then?
[01:26:50.400 --> 01:26:56.280]  No, I was just going to say, hopefully that's helpful to him to be prepared for, and he
[01:26:56.280 --> 01:26:58.640]  may or may not want to take the stand.
[01:26:58.640 --> 01:27:04.200]  If they don't have the elements, what I did is I let it go to the point where her testimony
[01:27:04.200 --> 01:27:05.200]  was given.
[01:27:05.200 --> 01:27:06.200]  There was nothing in writing.
[01:27:06.200 --> 01:27:07.600]  I've had several people look at the writing.
[01:27:07.600 --> 01:27:08.600]  There was no element there.
[01:27:08.600 --> 01:27:13.960]  There was nothing except that she felt uncomfortable, was the only thing that was ever stated.
[01:27:13.960 --> 01:27:15.600]  And I got her to answer all the questions.
[01:27:15.600 --> 01:27:17.080]  So there's no elements there whatsoever.
[01:27:17.080 --> 01:27:20.760]  So that's when I challenged the jurisdiction of the court, and of course, the judge did
[01:27:20.760 --> 01:27:21.760]  what I thought it was.
[01:27:21.760 --> 01:27:24.760]  She just leaned forward and goes, this court has jurisdiction.
[01:27:24.760 --> 01:27:26.240]  I was like, okay, whatever.
[01:27:26.240 --> 01:27:28.560]  I said, I'm jacked for the record, you know?
[01:27:28.560 --> 01:27:29.560]  Yeah.
[01:27:29.560 --> 01:27:30.560]  Objection, judge.
[01:27:30.560 --> 01:27:34.720]  If the witness has already confessed that the act, the elements of the charge do not
[01:27:34.720 --> 01:27:37.840]  exist, then there is no charge.
[01:27:37.840 --> 01:27:40.080]  Therefore this court does not have jurisdiction.
[01:27:40.080 --> 01:27:41.080]  Mm-hmm.
[01:27:41.080 --> 01:27:45.600]  Well, I figure I have to put that in writing and try to...
[01:27:45.600 --> 01:27:51.400]  Not if it's a proceeding that's on record, which it should be.
[01:27:51.400 --> 01:27:52.400]  Yeah.
[01:27:52.400 --> 01:27:53.400]  I have a copy.
[01:27:53.400 --> 01:27:54.400]  I have a tape of it.
[01:27:54.400 --> 01:27:55.400]  There's the audio of it.
[01:27:55.400 --> 01:27:56.400]  In fact, I got it right away.
[01:27:56.400 --> 01:27:57.400]  Yeah.
[01:27:57.400 --> 01:28:00.280]  Well, you'd still need an official court transcript for it to be an actual record you could use
[01:28:00.280 --> 01:28:01.280]  against them.
[01:28:01.280 --> 01:28:06.480]  But the fact of the matter is, if there's a court reporter there or you can get it transcribed
[01:28:06.480 --> 01:28:10.720]  by a court reporter, then you've got an official record that has what you need.
[01:28:10.720 --> 01:28:15.840]  You don't have to worry about submitting it in writing if it's brought up in court.
[01:28:15.840 --> 01:28:18.340]  Okay.
[01:28:18.340 --> 01:28:24.400]  What you could do is use that for sanctions against the judge and you could use it for
[01:28:24.400 --> 01:28:26.840]  the purpose of appealing the order.
[01:28:26.840 --> 01:28:27.840]  Okay.
[01:28:27.840 --> 01:28:28.840]  Good.
[01:28:28.840 --> 01:28:29.840]  That's where I'm at then.
[01:28:29.840 --> 01:28:30.840]  That's where I'm going, yeah.
[01:28:30.840 --> 01:28:31.840]  Okay.
[01:28:31.840 --> 01:28:32.840]  No.
[01:28:32.840 --> 01:28:33.840]  Okay.
[01:28:33.840 --> 01:28:34.840]  Yep.
[01:28:34.840 --> 01:28:37.440]  That's pretty much what I was figuring on doing is just using the record, getting
[01:28:37.440 --> 01:28:41.360]  it, like you say, transcribed and then using it as evidence of her improper activity.
[01:28:41.360 --> 01:28:42.360]  Yeah.
[01:28:42.360 --> 01:28:43.360]  All right.
[01:28:43.360 --> 01:28:44.360]  Well, that's good to know, Colin.
[01:28:44.360 --> 01:28:45.360]  Appreciate you calling in.
[01:28:45.360 --> 01:28:46.360]  Let me know.
[01:28:46.360 --> 01:28:48.560]  For me, I have a question for me.
[01:28:48.560 --> 01:28:49.560]  Is that okay?
[01:28:49.560 --> 01:28:50.560]  Sure.
[01:28:50.560 --> 01:28:51.560]  Go ahead.
[01:28:51.560 --> 01:28:52.560]  Okay.
[01:28:52.560 --> 01:28:53.560]  Old Blue, because where is it?
[01:28:53.560 --> 01:28:59.200]  In the Constitution, I was leading it again for the hundredth millionth time and I'd say
[01:28:59.200 --> 01:29:02.200]  the United States Constitution.
[01:29:02.200 --> 01:29:03.200]  Okay.
[01:29:03.200 --> 01:29:09.240]  And where the heck did it go, it's always here.
[01:29:09.240 --> 01:29:16.440]  And let me do it by memory, because I can't find the bell, don't think.
[01:29:16.440 --> 01:29:26.040]  In Article 6, no, not 6, what is it, 4, oh my goodness, I forgot already, where it says,
[01:29:26.040 --> 01:29:33.880]  oh, it's in Article 1, Section 2, the second paragraph, where it says that in all cases
[01:29:33.880 --> 01:29:42.640]  of legislative and so forth, in all cases where a state is a party, the Supreme Court
[01:29:42.640 --> 01:29:45.560]  has original jurisdiction.
[01:29:45.560 --> 01:29:51.200]  Can you please explain, when you come back, explain why it is that we can't go and call
[01:29:51.200 --> 01:29:56.480]  the Supreme Court has original jurisdiction at any time the state is a party to an action.
[01:29:56.480 --> 01:30:01.920]  Okay, well we'll see, hang on just a second.
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[01:33:34.120 --> 01:33:42.440]  All right folks, we are back, this is Gullivall Radio and Colin, you asked a question about
[01:33:42.440 --> 01:33:43.440]  Article 1.
[01:33:43.440 --> 01:33:44.440]  I apologize.
[01:33:44.440 --> 01:33:45.440]  Article 3.
[01:33:45.440 --> 01:33:46.440]  Yeah, Article 3.
[01:33:46.440 --> 01:33:51.480]  In all cases, it affects you.
[01:33:51.480 --> 01:33:55.640]  In all cases, it's affecting ambassadors, other public ministers and councils and those
[01:33:55.640 --> 01:33:57.960]  in which a state shall be a party.
[01:33:57.960 --> 01:34:01.240]  The Supreme Court shall have original jurisdiction.
[01:34:01.240 --> 01:34:04.320]  So you want to know why we can't go to the Supreme Court?
[01:34:04.320 --> 01:34:07.320]  You're not the state.
[01:34:07.320 --> 01:34:13.400]  No, but if they bring an action against you, then they are a party to an action.
[01:34:13.400 --> 01:34:14.400]  Who is?
[01:34:14.400 --> 01:34:15.400]  The state.
[01:34:15.400 --> 01:34:21.160]  If it says the state of, like for instance, the state of Maryland versus Colin, then that
[01:34:21.160 --> 01:34:23.360]  is where they are a party to the case.
[01:34:23.360 --> 01:34:27.520]  It says right there, in all cases, where the state is a party to an action, the Supreme
[01:34:27.520 --> 01:34:32.200]  Court shall have your original jurisdiction and it makes only sense because how can if
[01:34:32.200 --> 01:34:36.360]  the states bring, that would be like the Hatfields and McCoy's and the Hatfields says, well,
[01:34:36.360 --> 01:34:39.080]  we're going to charge you with our rules and you're going to come into our court and we're
[01:34:39.080 --> 01:34:40.840]  going to determine whether you're guilty of it.
[01:34:40.840 --> 01:34:45.960]  So it makes perfect sense to me that once the state says, hey, we're a party to the action,
[01:34:45.960 --> 01:34:49.480]  we're making a claim, clearly the state can't be the judge of that claim.
[01:34:49.480 --> 01:34:54.960]  So it makes sense and it says it, it clearly says it, in which a state is a party.
[01:34:54.960 --> 01:34:57.920]  Well, it's true, it does say it.
[01:34:57.920 --> 01:35:01.600]  I can guarantee you they're going to try to interpret that to mean only if the state's
[01:35:01.600 --> 01:35:07.880]  a party against another state or against the federal government or against a foreign country,
[01:35:07.880 --> 01:35:12.560]  not against an individual within it, I can almost guarantee you that's how they're going
[01:35:12.560 --> 01:35:13.960]  to try to construe that.
[01:35:13.960 --> 01:35:19.440]  Yeah, well, I guess we're going to find out.
[01:35:19.440 --> 01:35:28.480]  I mean, it's arguably doable as far as making the argument, but making them accept it, that's
[01:35:28.480 --> 01:35:30.480]  a whole other matter.
[01:35:30.480 --> 01:35:34.520]  Well, that could be a whole case all the way to the Supreme Court, couldn't it?
[01:35:34.520 --> 01:35:37.880]  Well, but then again, you're arguing the Supreme Court was supposed to have heard it in the
[01:35:37.880 --> 01:35:43.240]  first place and the Supreme Court says, no, this is how we want to interpret it, then
[01:35:43.240 --> 01:35:44.240]  what?
[01:35:44.240 --> 01:35:45.240]  You see what I'm saying?
[01:35:45.240 --> 01:35:49.480]  The fact that the thing has particular words in it's never made much of a difference to
[01:35:49.480 --> 01:35:53.560]  the courts anyway.
[01:35:53.560 --> 01:35:55.440]  Not that I'm saying don't try it.
[01:35:55.440 --> 01:36:00.680]  Anything is worth a try when it can be supported by the words that's in it, but I'm just saying
[01:36:00.680 --> 01:36:04.880]  look for them to figure wiggle room in there somewhere to get themselves out of having
[01:36:04.880 --> 01:36:05.880]  to do it.
[01:36:05.880 --> 01:36:09.680]  Well, I know this is going to be a little bit of a battle, so that's why I'm in.
[01:36:09.680 --> 01:36:11.960]  No, it ain't going to be no little bit of a battle.
[01:36:11.960 --> 01:36:16.040]  That's going to be the Battle of the Frickin' Bulge.
[01:36:16.040 --> 01:36:19.120]  I was being facetious, yes.
[01:36:19.120 --> 01:36:24.760]  And just for a tickler, one of my favorites is Article 3, Section 1, Second Sentence.
[01:36:24.760 --> 01:36:32.080]  The judges, both of the superior and the inferior courts shall hold their office during good
[01:36:32.080 --> 01:36:37.040]  behavior, which to me means that anything less than good behavior constitutes they don't
[01:36:37.040 --> 01:36:38.040]  hold their office.
[01:36:38.040 --> 01:36:39.520]  Am I correct on that?
[01:36:39.520 --> 01:36:44.480]  That would be a proper interpretation, but once again, what they have determined it means
[01:36:44.480 --> 01:36:46.480]  is something completely different.
[01:36:46.480 --> 01:36:55.880]  When you have to rely on a corrupt system to hold itself accountable, guess what?
[01:36:55.880 --> 01:36:59.960]  What should have happened is the founding fathers should have been a little bit more
[01:36:59.960 --> 01:37:03.520]  meticulous in defining some of the terms they used.
[01:37:03.520 --> 01:37:09.920]  Granted, they were willing to say that this is common understanding and meaning to everyone
[01:37:09.920 --> 01:37:15.520]  with a brain, but they did not foresee the fact that our country would suddenly be run
[01:37:15.520 --> 01:37:19.800]  by the highly overeducated, but also completely brainless.
[01:37:19.800 --> 01:37:20.800]  Yeah.
[01:37:20.800 --> 01:37:21.800]  Solace wonders.
[01:37:21.800 --> 01:37:22.800]  Something like that.
[01:37:22.800 --> 01:37:23.800]  Yeah.
[01:37:23.800 --> 01:37:24.800]  I appreciate it.
[01:37:24.800 --> 01:37:25.800]  I don't want to take any more of your time.
[01:37:25.800 --> 01:37:26.800]  I know a jump line here.
[01:37:26.800 --> 01:37:27.800]  So thanks so much.
[01:37:27.800 --> 01:37:28.800]  All right, Colin.
[01:37:28.800 --> 01:37:29.800]  Thanks for calling in.
[01:37:29.800 --> 01:37:30.800]  All right.
[01:37:30.800 --> 01:37:34.680]  Now we're going to go to Doug in Indiana.
[01:37:34.680 --> 01:37:37.680]  Doug, what can we do for you?
[01:37:37.680 --> 01:37:45.480]  Well, I have talked to you before a couple of times, a couple of months ago, I guess
[01:37:45.480 --> 01:37:46.480]  was.
[01:37:46.480 --> 01:37:51.880]  I got a couple of friends that are having issues with child support courts.
[01:37:51.880 --> 01:37:52.880]  Okay.
[01:37:52.880 --> 01:37:58.720]  Just constantly throwing them in jail over contempt for not paying.
[01:37:58.720 --> 01:38:04.000]  And one of them has been put in jail so many times.
[01:38:04.000 --> 01:38:09.080]  He's been put in jail 13 times and has stolen and neglected the defendant's mouth.
[01:38:09.080 --> 01:38:12.200]  And he can't get a job because of his record.
[01:38:12.200 --> 01:38:16.040]  I mean, nobody wants to give him a job.
[01:38:16.040 --> 01:38:18.840]  They took his driver's license away from him.
[01:38:18.840 --> 01:38:23.840]  And in this state, if you don't have a valid driver's license, nobody can hire you.
[01:38:23.840 --> 01:38:24.840]  State law.
[01:38:24.840 --> 01:38:27.760]  But I have tried to help him out.
[01:38:27.760 --> 01:38:35.280]  I've got him out of jail twice, but he, well, actually, both of them have signed the power
[01:38:35.280 --> 01:38:38.280]  of attorney.
[01:38:38.280 --> 01:38:44.920]  But when I go in to try to help them out, the court just absolutely refuses to recognize
[01:38:44.920 --> 01:38:47.280]  the power of attorney.
[01:38:47.280 --> 01:38:50.080]  And they just tell them, oh, I'm not a lawyer, you need to step back.
[01:38:50.080 --> 01:38:54.120]  You know, you can't be up here past the bar.
[01:38:54.120 --> 01:38:59.880]  And it gets absolutely refused to even look at the power of attorney to see, you know,
[01:38:59.880 --> 01:39:03.040]  if I ever like to speak for him because...
[01:39:03.040 --> 01:39:09.080]  Well, he can't, unfortunately, that will not give you the power to speak for him.
[01:39:09.080 --> 01:39:15.120]  But in federal court, you can go in as next friend and do it.
[01:39:15.120 --> 01:39:16.120]  Yes.
[01:39:16.120 --> 01:39:18.280]  Yes, that's what I did in the appeals court.
[01:39:18.280 --> 01:39:20.720]  I went in as next friend.
[01:39:20.720 --> 01:39:29.480]  Yeah, because he was incarcerated at the time, so he had no access to the court.
[01:39:29.480 --> 01:39:32.320]  So I did it as an explain.
[01:39:32.320 --> 01:39:33.320]  Had no problems there.
[01:39:33.320 --> 01:39:35.280]  The appeals court's like, oh, no problem.
[01:39:35.280 --> 01:39:36.280]  Okay.
[01:39:36.280 --> 01:39:38.080]  I'm waiting right now.
[01:39:38.080 --> 01:39:47.600]  I'm waiting for a ruling on this because he's been back to court twice on this very
[01:39:47.600 --> 01:39:51.440]  same issue and they want to put him back in jail and the appeals court have a bit of ruling
[01:39:51.440 --> 01:39:54.200]  on it yet.
[01:39:54.200 --> 01:40:01.720]  And I'm thinking that once it's in the appeals court, doesn't that lesser court only have
[01:40:01.720 --> 01:40:04.360]  a limited jurisdiction in the case at that time?
[01:40:04.360 --> 01:40:10.880]  Well, in almost every state I'm aware of, once a case goes forward on appeal, the original
[01:40:10.880 --> 01:40:14.480]  trial court has zero jurisdiction while it's on appeal.
[01:40:14.480 --> 01:40:19.400]  Well, I mean, they can do like administrative stuff.
[01:40:19.400 --> 01:40:24.440]  They can't do anything that's involved with adjudication or record keeping of the case
[01:40:24.440 --> 01:40:28.880]  because all of that is supposed to be in the possession of the appellate court until the
[01:40:28.880 --> 01:40:34.440]  appeal is completed and it's remanded or it's sent back down as upheld.
[01:40:34.440 --> 01:40:38.680]  Well, I can say one thing about Indiana.
[01:40:38.680 --> 01:40:46.200]  They do, when somebody does appeal a child support decision for contempt of court, they
[01:40:46.200 --> 01:40:52.880]  do normally disagree with the court and find on our side because these courts around here
[01:40:52.880 --> 01:40:59.760]  have a bad habit of not proving that you have the ability to pay plus they'll set such a
[01:40:59.760 --> 01:41:03.160]  high bond that you don't hold the keys in your own hand.
[01:41:03.160 --> 01:41:06.960]  You know, the keys of your cell in your own hand.
[01:41:06.960 --> 01:41:07.960]  You know, they'll mean no.
[01:41:07.960 --> 01:41:10.840]  Well, that's true of every type of family law court.
[01:41:10.840 --> 01:41:17.840]  You're talking about absolutely the most corrupt, probably, if not more corrupt than
[01:41:17.840 --> 01:41:24.960]  probate, very, very near corrupt to the level of probate, but absolutely one of the worst
[01:41:24.960 --> 01:41:28.640]  areas of jurisprudence in existence is family law court.
[01:41:28.640 --> 01:41:34.720]  Oh, yeah, and you can't get back into these judges.
[01:41:34.720 --> 01:41:39.280]  They've had six different public defenders, of course, you know, they work for the court,
[01:41:39.280 --> 01:41:43.440]  so they're not going to do anything court don't want them to do.
[01:41:43.440 --> 01:41:44.880]  They don't object or do anything.
[01:41:44.880 --> 01:41:47.640]  They just stand there and go, yes, your honor, yes, your honor, yes, your honor.
[01:41:47.640 --> 01:41:49.640]  I'm like, yes, man.
[01:41:49.640 --> 01:41:50.640]  Okay.
[01:41:50.640 --> 01:41:55.080]  Well, I got all that part, but what I need to know is do you have a question or anything
[01:41:55.080 --> 01:41:57.080]  in relation to any of this?
[01:41:57.080 --> 01:42:04.440]  Well, I am trying to figure out is there a way to get these lower courts to recognize
[01:42:04.440 --> 01:42:12.360]  that power of attorney, because in the one county that I'm in, they have closed the doors
[01:42:12.360 --> 01:42:17.480]  on the, if you're not a party to the case, you can't go in the courtroom.
[01:42:17.480 --> 01:42:18.960]  That's absolutely illegal.
[01:42:18.960 --> 01:42:19.960]  Yeah.
[01:42:19.960 --> 01:42:23.960]  Sixth Amendment and First Amendment, isn't it?
[01:42:23.960 --> 01:42:26.760]  Like the public trial and then I'll react to the court.
[01:42:26.760 --> 01:42:27.760]  Exactly.
[01:42:27.760 --> 01:42:32.280]  And I'm quite sure in your particular state constitution, there's also something that
[01:42:32.280 --> 01:42:35.440]  says that all trials and proceedings shall be public.
[01:42:35.440 --> 01:42:36.440]  Yes.
[01:42:36.440 --> 01:42:37.440]  Okay.
[01:42:37.440 --> 01:42:38.440]  Yes.
[01:42:38.440 --> 01:42:42.040]  So, when they close those doors, they're already committing crimes.
[01:42:42.040 --> 01:42:43.040]  Yeah.
[01:42:43.040 --> 01:42:49.120]  In that county, the girl that I'm helping, I've known her for like 30 years, she has
[01:42:49.120 --> 01:42:50.640]  learning disabilities.
[01:42:50.640 --> 01:42:57.600]  She knows, she don't understand anything, I try to tell her to try to help herself out.
[01:42:57.600 --> 01:43:00.120]  She don't know how to make a proper judgment or anything like that.
[01:43:00.120 --> 01:43:01.720]  She didn't even finish high school.
[01:43:01.720 --> 01:43:09.520]  Well, what you need to do is find the federal case law on next friend and take that with
[01:43:09.520 --> 01:43:16.800]  you and say, look, now the problem, it needs to be preferably something from a federal
[01:43:16.800 --> 01:43:22.360]  court in your area, or at least one where the federal court in your area has agreed
[01:43:22.360 --> 01:43:23.360]  with it.
[01:43:23.360 --> 01:43:24.360]  Yeah.
[01:43:24.360 --> 01:43:27.600]  There's a lot of them in our circuit court here, seventh circuit.
[01:43:27.600 --> 01:43:28.600]  Okay.
[01:43:28.600 --> 01:43:29.600]  Then that's all you need.
[01:43:29.600 --> 01:43:33.480]  Get those, get those that say very clearly that you have the right to do it.
[01:43:33.480 --> 01:43:39.520]  Well, the problem is, well, wait a minute, this is not in federal court, this is in state
[01:43:39.520 --> 01:43:40.520]  court, right?
[01:43:40.520 --> 01:43:41.520]  Yeah.
[01:43:41.520 --> 01:43:42.520]  Okay.
[01:43:42.520 --> 01:43:45.040]  Well, that's going to be another problem.
[01:43:45.040 --> 01:43:49.240]  Okay, Doug, hang on just a second, we're going to break.
[01:43:49.240 --> 01:43:50.240]  Okay.
[01:43:50.240 --> 01:43:51.240]  All right, folks.
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[01:45:56.560 --> 01:46:26.480]  All right folks, we are back, this is rule of law radio.
[01:46:26.480 --> 01:46:28.600]  We are talking to Doug in Indiana.
[01:46:28.600 --> 01:46:34.360]  Okay, Doug, just find the case law that will make it where the state courts are required
[01:46:34.360 --> 01:46:38.400]  to do it, but good luck with that because most of the time there isn't any state courts
[01:46:38.400 --> 01:46:41.080]  or notorious for doing what they want, how they want.
[01:46:41.080 --> 01:46:43.080]  Yeah, that's the problem, I can't.
[01:46:43.080 --> 01:46:51.200]  And my area issue is with that court that's got the closed doors, I was considering just
[01:46:51.200 --> 01:46:56.560]  filing out for myself on an issue on that, but would the appeals court be the appropriate
[01:46:56.560 --> 01:46:58.840]  place for that or would that be a supreme court?
[01:46:58.840 --> 01:47:05.120]  No, you can't file a case in an appeals court, hence the word appeal, not trial.
[01:47:05.120 --> 01:47:11.920]  Yeah, okay, but I thought it just had to, I mean would I initiate that like in a different
[01:47:11.920 --> 01:47:12.920]  way, all of it.
[01:47:12.920 --> 01:47:17.960]  You would have to do it in some court that's higher than or equal to the one you've got,
[01:47:17.960 --> 01:47:23.200]  that I would go and file it federally rather than whatever, I would get a federal injunction
[01:47:23.200 --> 01:47:24.200]  against it.
[01:47:24.200 --> 01:47:29.160]  Because I doubt very seriously if you're going to be able to go directly after anyone for
[01:47:29.160 --> 01:47:34.960]  monetary damages because you can't show an actual harm other than because it's the person
[01:47:34.960 --> 01:47:39.440]  that's being locked in the courtroom alone that's suffering the harm.
[01:47:39.440 --> 01:47:42.560]  They're the one that's going to have to sue, the federal court's going to say you don't
[01:47:42.560 --> 01:47:44.640]  have any standing to sue.
[01:47:44.640 --> 01:47:50.560]  Wouldn't I under the First Amendment to my right of access to the courts?
[01:47:50.560 --> 01:47:54.200]  There is what?
[01:47:54.200 --> 01:47:55.920]  Right of access to the courts.
[01:47:55.920 --> 01:47:58.920]  Where is that in the First Amendment?
[01:47:58.920 --> 01:48:09.760]  Well, it isn't that I found case law where some courts have said that it is, not actually
[01:48:09.760 --> 01:48:12.040]  in there.
[01:48:12.040 --> 01:48:15.120]  Okay, start with the state constitution.
[01:48:15.120 --> 01:48:17.400]  What does the state constitution say?
[01:48:17.400 --> 01:48:26.400]  Because you can sue in federal court for violations of the state constitution as well if the right
[01:48:26.400 --> 01:48:31.640]  affected by the deprivation under the state constitution also affects a federally protected
[01:48:31.640 --> 01:48:34.640]  one.
[01:48:34.640 --> 01:48:44.440]  Yeah, well, I was thinking in initiating it on her behalf too because you cannot initiate.
[01:48:44.440 --> 01:48:46.320]  Am I not being clear about that?
[01:48:46.320 --> 01:48:52.320]  Yeah, yeah, I understand what you're saying there.
[01:48:52.320 --> 01:48:55.000]  You cannot demonstrate a harm.
[01:48:55.000 --> 01:48:59.880]  Only the person that's isolated in the courtroom can do that.
[01:48:59.880 --> 01:49:01.880]  Yeah.
[01:49:01.880 --> 01:49:08.720]  Well, nobody around there is on the town, I guess, because they've been doing it for
[01:49:08.720 --> 01:49:09.720]  a long time.
[01:49:09.720 --> 01:49:10.720]  Nobody's...
[01:49:10.720 --> 01:49:14.720]  Well, maybe no one's thought to pay an attorney to try, but I sure as heck wouldn't use an
[01:49:14.720 --> 01:49:17.520]  attorney from the area if I was going to do it.
[01:49:17.520 --> 01:49:19.520]  Oh, heaven's not on...
[01:49:19.520 --> 01:49:24.520]  I could go to another town, probably going to County Highman because I'm in one county
[01:49:24.520 --> 01:49:27.880]  over from them, but I've tried to go in there, you know.
[01:49:27.880 --> 01:49:28.880]  Okay, wait, wait, wait.
[01:49:28.880 --> 01:49:32.200]  But I don't have time to go into all these dissertations on what you can and can't do
[01:49:32.200 --> 01:49:33.200]  as far as that goes.
[01:49:33.200 --> 01:49:36.720]  If you're going to help this girl, you've got to figure out some other way to do it
[01:49:36.720 --> 01:49:41.080]  because the state court's never going to let you go in and talk for her.
[01:49:41.080 --> 01:49:44.880]  She's going to have to get a lawyer and somebody's going to have to hold that lawyer accountable
[01:49:44.880 --> 01:49:45.880]  into story.
[01:49:45.880 --> 01:49:51.640]  Well, I think she's just going to have to get away from the being public defenders
[01:49:51.640 --> 01:49:56.480]  and just hire her one.
[01:49:56.480 --> 01:49:59.080]  That could be the case, okay?
[01:49:59.080 --> 01:50:01.080]  Okay, thanks.
[01:50:01.080 --> 01:50:02.960]  All right, Doug, thanks for calling in.
[01:50:02.960 --> 01:50:05.760]  All right, now we've got Rob in Illinois.
[01:50:05.760 --> 01:50:07.600]  My other caller dropped off the line.
[01:50:07.600 --> 01:50:09.880]  I may have time to get back to you.
[01:50:09.880 --> 01:50:10.880]  Please call back in.
[01:50:10.880 --> 01:50:11.880]  Rob, go ahead.
[01:50:11.880 --> 01:50:17.080]  Eddie, I have one quick comment about Westlaw.
[01:50:17.080 --> 01:50:21.880]  I know somebody who's accessing it and they're having great success finding case law in there.
[01:50:21.880 --> 01:50:26.440]  So if people want to go to Westlaw on the Internet, I think you probably have a great
[01:50:26.440 --> 01:50:27.440]  success.
[01:50:27.440 --> 01:50:28.440]  You have to pay for the service.
[01:50:28.440 --> 01:50:33.080]  Yeah, you do, and that's the whole point of Westlaw is to have great access to case
[01:50:33.080 --> 01:50:34.080]  law.
[01:50:34.080 --> 01:50:35.080]  Yes.
[01:50:35.080 --> 01:50:36.080]  For a fee?
[01:50:36.080 --> 01:50:37.080]  Yeah.
[01:50:37.080 --> 01:50:40.080]  And it's a big one.
[01:50:40.080 --> 01:50:41.080]  A what?
[01:50:41.080 --> 01:50:42.080]  Per month?
[01:50:42.080 --> 01:50:43.080]  Per year?
[01:50:43.080 --> 01:50:45.680]  Yeah, it's very expensive.
[01:50:45.680 --> 01:50:49.120]  That's why only lawyers and law firms have it.
[01:50:49.120 --> 01:50:53.040]  In other words, it's to give them a tool the public doesn't have access to.
[01:50:53.040 --> 01:50:56.720]  It's to give them an unfair playing field because the public can't afford to pay for
[01:50:56.720 --> 01:50:59.280]  the type of access those lawyers can't.
[01:50:59.280 --> 01:51:00.280]  Right.
[01:51:00.280 --> 01:51:06.160]  In fact, the one guy that was accessing it says he's got more access than 10,000 attorneys
[01:51:06.160 --> 01:51:12.080]  working for him at once, within seconds he can get what he wants, usually.
[01:51:12.080 --> 01:51:15.480]  So that's one thing people can pursue.
[01:51:15.480 --> 01:51:21.000]  The one question I have for you, Eddie, is do local municipalities come under the legislative
[01:51:21.000 --> 01:51:23.360]  or executive branch?
[01:51:23.360 --> 01:51:24.360]  What?
[01:51:24.360 --> 01:51:29.560]  Local, like your local police department, the villages and stuff, are they under the
[01:51:29.560 --> 01:51:32.680]  legislature or under the executive branch?
[01:51:32.680 --> 01:51:35.840]  They're not under either.
[01:51:35.840 --> 01:51:38.360]  Okay.
[01:51:38.360 --> 01:51:48.200]  They are considered a state subset, an extension of the state, and they're granted certain
[01:51:48.200 --> 01:51:54.480]  powers as far as that goes for self-management in some cases.
[01:51:54.480 --> 01:52:01.160]  But that self-management means they're themselves, not us, and corporations within their territorial
[01:52:01.160 --> 01:52:03.960]  boundaries, not us.
[01:52:03.960 --> 01:52:09.000]  So technically, it's in their governmental capacity, they don't relate to the people
[01:52:09.000 --> 01:52:14.040]  at all, except that they can't do what the people don't want them to do, even though
[01:52:14.040 --> 01:52:18.760]  they do it anyway.
[01:52:18.760 --> 01:52:19.760]  Okay.
[01:52:19.760 --> 01:52:26.320]  Great, you answered my question, because you said before, I guess some of the state police,
[01:52:26.320 --> 01:52:28.320]  they come under the executive branch?
[01:52:28.320 --> 01:52:35.920]  The state police are executive under the law, yes, they're created by statute.
[01:52:35.920 --> 01:52:41.360]  They don't exist in the Constitution as a member of any particular branch of government,
[01:52:41.360 --> 01:52:45.440]  and neither do municipal police officers.
[01:52:45.440 --> 01:52:50.560]  Those were created entirely by the corporate entity themselves, just like state police
[01:52:50.560 --> 01:52:57.320]  were created entirely by the corporate entity known as the state of, because they're not
[01:52:57.320 --> 01:53:01.000]  constitutionally created in either case.
[01:53:01.000 --> 01:53:06.600]  In fact, in Texas, the only law enforcement agencies even mentioned in the Constitution
[01:53:06.600 --> 01:53:11.600]  are the sheriffs and the constables.
[01:53:11.600 --> 01:53:15.200]  Yeah, that's the same thing for Illinois.
[01:53:15.200 --> 01:53:21.440]  I've become very familiar with the 1818 Constitution, and it only creates the sheriff and his deputies
[01:53:21.440 --> 01:53:25.920]  as far as if you want to call it law enforcement is considered.
[01:53:25.920 --> 01:53:26.920]  Right.
[01:53:26.920 --> 01:53:27.920]  Yeah.
[01:53:27.920 --> 01:53:30.200]  All right, Eddie, that was it.
[01:53:30.200 --> 01:53:33.200]  If there's other callers that want to jump back in, I think.
[01:53:33.200 --> 01:53:36.520]  At the moment, there doesn't appear to be.
[01:53:36.520 --> 01:53:41.400]  The other caller that was on here dropped off thinking that I was not going to get to
[01:53:41.400 --> 01:53:42.400]  them.
[01:53:42.400 --> 01:53:46.480]  So, there's my guess, unless they just lost their connection.
[01:53:46.480 --> 01:53:49.040]  But they haven't called back in.
[01:53:49.040 --> 01:53:50.040]  Right.
[01:53:50.040 --> 01:53:51.040]  Yeah.
[01:53:51.040 --> 01:53:55.040]  So, if there's something else you want to ask, you've got time.
[01:53:55.040 --> 01:54:00.360]  Yeah, I really can't think of anything other than if people have the money and the means
[01:54:00.360 --> 01:54:06.200]  to get a hold of Westlaw, it will help them out significantly from what I've heard.
[01:54:06.200 --> 01:54:12.800]  Just so people everywhere are aware, generally, if you have a state law library, the state
[01:54:12.800 --> 01:54:18.480]  law library has computer services already available for Westlaw for free.
[01:54:18.480 --> 01:54:23.040]  You can go down to that state law library and access Westlaw directly from those computers.
[01:54:23.040 --> 01:54:24.960]  You don't have to pay the monthly charges.
[01:54:24.960 --> 01:54:31.480]  Now, of course, that does you no good if you're not in a city or town that has a state law
[01:54:31.480 --> 01:54:33.240]  library available.
[01:54:33.240 --> 01:54:37.840]  I'm fortunate in the fact that, one, I'm in Austin at the moment and, two, when I'm
[01:54:37.840 --> 01:54:44.720]  at home in Nacogdoches, Stephen F. Austin State University there is a state and federal
[01:54:44.720 --> 01:54:49.360]  book repository and it has a law library entirely of its own.
[01:54:49.360 --> 01:54:54.080]  So, I've been kind of lucky in my ability to get access to things over the years to
[01:54:54.080 --> 01:54:57.040]  do the studying that I've needed to do.
[01:54:57.040 --> 01:55:00.440]  But again, it's all about learning where those resources are.
[01:55:00.440 --> 01:55:04.000]  And generally, you can go down and talk to people at the courthouse and things like that
[01:55:04.000 --> 01:55:09.720]  to find out if there's something like that in your area that you can have access to.
[01:55:09.720 --> 01:55:16.800]  Sometimes even your local public library, whether it's a state law library or not, might
[01:55:16.800 --> 01:55:18.120]  have access to it.
[01:55:18.120 --> 01:55:19.120]  It just depends.
[01:55:19.120 --> 01:55:21.360]  So, you have to ask.
[01:55:21.360 --> 01:55:24.880]  But in any case, that's something to keep in mind.
[01:55:24.880 --> 01:55:32.680]  All right, well, we only got, if I can put in a plug here for you, Eddie, if people
[01:55:32.680 --> 01:55:37.600]  out there are listening and they have the means to donate to Eddie, Eddie and his crew
[01:55:37.600 --> 01:55:43.320]  over there at a rule of law radio are donating a lot of their time and helping us out.
[01:55:43.320 --> 01:55:48.560]  And if anybody has the means to send them a little cabbage their way, I'm sure they
[01:55:48.560 --> 01:55:50.560]  would appreciate it.
[01:55:50.560 --> 01:55:55.360]  Yeah, definitely would appreciate it, I mean, every little bit helps.
[01:55:55.360 --> 01:55:58.280]  And believe me, a little bit is what we see most of the time.
[01:55:58.280 --> 01:56:02.040]  Now, you have it up on your website, Rick, for the donate?
[01:56:02.040 --> 01:56:07.320]  Yes, there are several places up there where they can donate to either the network as a
[01:56:07.320 --> 01:56:12.920]  whole or to the individual host, whichever one you're deciding to do, make sure you
[01:56:12.920 --> 01:56:15.680]  click the correct link.
[01:56:15.680 --> 01:56:20.000]  Each one of us has one if you're donating directly to one of us in support or if you're
[01:56:20.000 --> 01:56:23.160]  going to donate to the network.
[01:56:23.160 --> 01:56:27.960]  So the only way that an individual host sees the money is if you donate directly to that
[01:56:27.960 --> 01:56:29.400]  individual host.
[01:56:29.400 --> 01:56:33.520]  So keep that in mind if that's your intent.
[01:56:33.520 --> 01:56:34.520]  Anything else there, Rob?
[01:56:34.520 --> 01:56:39.000]  Yeah, I see it right here on your home page, it's the third bar down for donations.
[01:56:39.000 --> 01:56:40.000]  Yeah.
[01:56:40.000 --> 01:56:41.920]  So, yep, it's real easy to get to.
[01:56:41.920 --> 01:56:42.920]  Okay.
[01:56:42.920 --> 01:56:48.200]  Okay, that's it, Eddie, hopefully we'll see you next week if we don't have a good Thanksgiving.
[01:56:48.200 --> 01:56:50.200]  You and Deborah and...
[01:56:50.200 --> 01:56:52.800]  All right, well, I appreciate it, same to you.
[01:56:52.800 --> 01:56:54.200]  Okay, thanks, Eddie.
[01:56:54.200 --> 01:56:55.200]  All right, bye-bye.
[01:56:55.200 --> 01:56:56.200]  Okay, bye-bye.
[01:56:56.200 --> 01:56:57.200]  Bye-bye.
[01:56:57.200 --> 01:57:04.200]  Okay, I've got an on-screen caller here from California, it looks like, 830.
[01:57:04.200 --> 01:57:09.880]  Are you talking to...am I on?
[01:57:09.880 --> 01:57:11.320]  You are on.
[01:57:11.320 --> 01:57:15.200]  You've got about 30 to 45 seconds before you're not.
[01:57:15.200 --> 01:57:16.200]  Okay, great.
[01:57:16.200 --> 01:57:19.200]  This is Clint, Clint Dolan.
[01:57:19.200 --> 01:57:22.200]  Yes, sir?
[01:57:22.200 --> 01:57:28.200]  Hey, you have a saying I'm trying to remember, slow is smooth and smooth is fast, there's
[01:57:28.200 --> 01:57:30.200]  more to it, I thought.
[01:57:30.200 --> 01:57:35.200]  Yeah, you're talking about the line from the movie Shooter with Mark Wahlberg where he's
[01:57:35.200 --> 01:57:41.200]  talking, where he's trying to train the FBI agent in being a sniper.
[01:57:41.200 --> 01:57:46.200]  Yes, sir, slow is smooth, smooth is fast.
[01:57:46.200 --> 01:57:53.200]  Okay, I remember doing our synod, we had a better...we figured out a better saying.
[01:57:53.200 --> 01:57:58.200]  That's entirely possible, but at this point I can't remember my name by breakfast, so,
[01:57:58.200 --> 01:57:59.200]  you know.
[01:57:59.200 --> 01:58:27.200]  Clint, I'm sorry man, you're breaking up really bad with the background music, we're about
[01:58:27.200 --> 01:58:30.200]  10 seconds away from our 20 seconds left to get off here.
[01:58:30.200 --> 01:58:34.200]  Give me a call, man, I ain't talked to you in a while anyway, okay?
[01:58:34.200 --> 01:58:35.200]  Hi.
[01:58:35.200 --> 01:58:36.200]  Alright, thanks.
[01:58:36.200 --> 01:58:40.200]  Alright folks, this has been the Monday Night Rule of Law Radio Show, this is your host,
[01:58:40.200 --> 01:58:41.200]  Eddie Craig.
[01:58:41.200 --> 01:58:43.200]  Thank you all so much for listening, for calling in.
[01:58:43.200 --> 01:58:47.200]  Please see us again Thursday and Friday and me again next Monday.
[01:58:47.200 --> 01:59:16.200]  Good night, God bless.
[01:59:17.200 --> 01:59:41.200]  We'll see you in the next one.
[01:59:41.200 --> 01:59:57.200]  We'll see you then.