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[03:28.960 --> 03:37.960]  Welcome back to Rule of Law Radio, folks, and thank you for tuning in this Friday, the
[03:37.960 --> 03:42.240]  12th of September.
[03:42.240 --> 03:49.800]  Mr. Avery is, Ron Avery is our guest tonight, 9-11 is the general topic, and I see we've
[03:49.800 --> 03:54.840]  got a couple of calls, but I'd like to, before we go to the telephones, I'd like to revisit
[03:54.840 --> 04:00.800]  something that Mr. Avery brought up earlier, I believe in the beginning of the last segment.
[04:00.800 --> 04:08.760]  You'd mentioned Frederic Bastier, folks, Frederic Bastier, he was a Frenchman, and he wrote
[04:08.760 --> 04:16.240]  a book called The Law, and I want to highly recommend that everybody, excuse me, everybody
[04:16.240 --> 04:22.160]  tuned in tonight go to the Internet and find a PDF version of The Law.
[04:22.160 --> 04:26.760]  It's a very quick, very, very concise read.
[04:26.760 --> 04:30.480]  His book is titled The Law, T-H-E-L-A-W.
[04:30.480 --> 04:37.700]  I think in its physical form, it's about 74 pages, the book itself is a very small
[04:37.700 --> 04:47.380]  book, a real quick read, but the subject matter of this particular book is legal plunder.
[04:47.380 --> 04:55.680]  Legal plunder has been legalized here in the United States.
[04:55.680 --> 05:06.480]  Legal plunder has been the mechanism of the overthrow of our de jure government, and it
[05:06.480 --> 05:14.840]  is historical fact, history proves everything that Bastier has written in The Law has come
[05:14.840 --> 05:22.520]  to fruition, but I see, before we go to calls, guys, either of you got anything else to add?
[05:22.520 --> 05:24.760]  I was going to add one thing.
[05:24.760 --> 05:30.880]  I think Bastier even covered more than that because he established what the foundation
[05:30.880 --> 05:38.120]  of The Law really was and what the foundation of governments were, because governments have
[05:38.120 --> 05:44.540]  to be based on The Law, and the foundation of The Law at seven, I think it's very interesting
[05:44.540 --> 05:51.680]  that he was actually an economist, but this particular economist discovered what The Law
[05:51.680 --> 05:53.720]  was based upon.
[05:53.720 --> 06:02.880]  All law is based upon the combined right of each individual, their right to protect their
[06:02.880 --> 06:07.600]  property consisting of life, liberty, and possessions.
[06:07.600 --> 06:17.960]  And there he shows how The Law can also be perverted to become non-law, and plunder,
[06:17.960 --> 06:24.480]  as you said, is made legal, but is still unlawful.
[06:24.480 --> 06:27.480]  Agreed, 100%.
[06:27.480 --> 06:29.700]  Do not confuse legal and lawful.
[06:29.700 --> 06:31.600]  They are not synonymous.
[06:31.600 --> 06:33.040]  That's correct.
[06:33.040 --> 06:41.000]  Okay, well, unless anybody's got anything else to add, I'll take it by the silence.
[06:41.000 --> 06:42.000]  That's a no.
[06:42.000 --> 06:43.000]  Patrick in Texas.
[06:43.000 --> 06:45.120]  Good evening, and welcome to Rule of Law Radio.
[06:45.120 --> 06:46.960]  Sir, what have you got for us tonight?
[06:46.960 --> 06:47.960]  Hello, Patrick.
[06:47.960 --> 06:48.960]  Good evening.
[06:48.960 --> 06:49.960]  Yes.
[06:49.960 --> 06:50.960]  Can you hear me okay?
[06:50.960 --> 06:51.960]  Absolutely.
[06:51.960 --> 06:52.960]  You have the floor, sir.
[06:52.960 --> 06:53.960]  I called in last night.
[06:53.960 --> 06:54.960]  Very well.
[06:54.960 --> 06:55.960]  Thank you.
[06:55.960 --> 07:06.320]  I called in last night, and I kind of talked more about kind of where we're at as a country.
[07:06.320 --> 07:11.600]  But just listening to the past two hours, I didn't get everything that you said, Ron,
[07:11.600 --> 07:17.880]  and if I may call you, Ron, I mean, this is absolutely just atrocious.
[07:17.880 --> 07:24.920]  I mean, if you take and you asked for modeling, and I don't know if that's, you know, in the
[07:24.920 --> 07:30.480]  scientific or the architectural world, if that works, but modeling, it's like, there's
[07:30.480 --> 07:35.360]  no possible way they can reproduce this, let alone it's like, how ignorant do they think
[07:35.360 --> 07:41.640]  we are as a culture to allow this type of injustice to occur?
[07:41.640 --> 07:43.800]  I mean, I had no idea, to be honest with you.
[07:43.800 --> 07:48.720]  I had no idea until I started opening my mind up and listening and starting to understand.
[07:48.720 --> 07:55.880]  But from the facts, I mean, I do say facts, I mean, hard facts, black and white, unrefutable
[07:55.880 --> 08:00.840]  at this point, from what I understand, there's no possible way any of these variables could
[08:00.840 --> 08:06.480]  have occurred that they ascertain did occur, therefore, you have a willful and knowing
[08:06.480 --> 08:07.480]  fraud.
[08:07.480 --> 08:13.860]  And that's just absolutely astronomical that they can baffle almost 3 trillion people into
[08:13.860 --> 08:17.080]  believing a total fraud.
[08:17.080 --> 08:24.720]  I'm totally bewildered, even more so tonight than last night, from what you've told us.
[08:24.720 --> 08:28.600]  Yes, that's, I think you've got it correct.
[08:28.600 --> 08:31.120]  I think you've perceived it correctly.
[08:31.120 --> 08:40.080]  And I don't even think these major media moguls, as I refer to them, tyrannical, they don't
[08:40.080 --> 08:47.800]  even care that this stuff can be proved or not, or what the people think.
[08:47.800 --> 09:00.120]  All they care about is continually pounding these myths onto the people like an anvil.
[09:00.120 --> 09:11.920]  They use the news media as an anvil and they just pound these falsehoods into the society
[09:11.920 --> 09:21.240]  and it gets to where no one has enough guts to resist it because it's just a constant
[09:21.240 --> 09:23.040]  pounding with this stuff.
[09:23.040 --> 09:24.520]  Oh, so true.
[09:24.520 --> 09:32.440]  And that's something I brought up last night, you listen to what was presented in the general
[09:32.440 --> 09:36.560]  media the night before in reference to this is how we are as a nation, this is what we're
[09:36.560 --> 09:40.480]  going to do, versus what the facts are and what the reality are.
[09:40.480 --> 09:47.080]  And then what this IS, ISIS, ISL, I mean, it goes on and on and on.
[09:47.080 --> 09:53.460]  It makes no sense that you confound and you just totally just overwhelm the lack of the
[09:53.460 --> 09:59.480]  educated or ignorant, whichever term is going to set the best, and you're going to get to
[09:59.480 --> 10:00.480]  your end point.
[10:00.480 --> 10:05.800]  But when you get someone who's quasi-educated, look, I'm not an architect, I'm not an engineer,
[10:05.800 --> 10:06.800]  but you know what?
[10:06.800 --> 10:11.040]  From the facts that you've given to me, it doesn't take a genius, it doesn't take someone
[10:11.040 --> 10:18.840]  beyond probably like maybe 9th, 10th, 11th grade, these don't add up.
[10:18.840 --> 10:26.560]  Someone thinks something is not right, something is decaying, decomposing, and it's a carbon-based
[10:26.560 --> 10:32.160]  element that is going from one state to another, and that's like 9th grade science.
[10:32.160 --> 10:37.280]  And then you get into this fact, it's like, the sky is blue, it's like, well no, actually
[10:37.280 --> 10:42.760]  the sky is not blue, we put a filter in place so that it looks blue to you, but it's really
[10:42.760 --> 10:48.280]  not blue, we did that so that it seems blue to you, because blue is a better color than
[10:48.280 --> 10:49.280]  bright red.
[10:49.280 --> 10:56.440]  I mean, it's like, oh, okay, and people believe this theory, it's like, are you serious?
[10:56.440 --> 11:02.120]  I hate to think that we live with people in any world, and the majority of these people,
[11:02.120 --> 11:06.280]  regardless of their financial well-being, their education level, whatever, you can have
[11:06.280 --> 11:13.920]  a PhD, I don't care what your title is, they are ignorant enough to follow this wholeheartedly,
[11:13.920 --> 11:16.920]  just like they would love to look at their child in their crib.
[11:16.920 --> 11:22.120]  It's just like, it's a block-sided sheet, it's a slaughter theory, and they're not educated
[11:22.120 --> 11:26.120]  enough to stop and think, you say, you know what, this doesn't add up, and from what you
[11:26.120 --> 11:29.400]  presented to me, this is a no-brainer.
[11:29.400 --> 11:33.020]  I mean, why do we even have to think about this, let alone have a federal agency look
[11:33.020 --> 11:34.020]  into it?
[11:34.020 --> 11:37.520]  You don't need a federal agency, you need to have a 5th grader and a 3rd grader and
[11:37.520 --> 11:41.040]  maybe a kindergartner with some blocks, they can put all these little things together and
[11:41.040 --> 11:43.520]  say, you know what, this doesn't work.
[11:43.520 --> 11:49.320]  You can't fly 500 miles an hour, about 10 foot above the ground, and not have resistance.
[11:49.320 --> 11:52.520]  It's like, that doesn't work.
[11:52.520 --> 11:55.240]  It's scientifically not possible, period.
[11:55.240 --> 12:00.400]  God said no, and it doesn't happen, but you're selling it off as a reality?
[12:00.400 --> 12:03.120]  What is wrong with you ignorant individuals?
[12:03.120 --> 12:07.960]  I just worked up with this, but from what you said, it's just a bit more, and I appreciate
[12:07.960 --> 12:10.160]  everything you've done.
[12:10.160 --> 12:18.840]  Tell me, Patrick, are you willing to go in and kick over the tables of the money changers
[12:18.840 --> 12:24.000]  under the power of your belief?
[12:24.000 --> 12:31.900]  And then everybody has to ask themselves, am I willing to risk the overwhelming might
[12:31.900 --> 12:38.520]  of the government who can come in and take away my job, take away my home, take away
[12:38.520 --> 12:42.040]  my credit, take my kids from me and put me in jail?
[12:42.040 --> 12:49.640]  Am I willing to risk all of that to stand up for this thing that is right?
[12:49.640 --> 12:51.800]  This is the problem we have.
[12:51.800 --> 12:57.080]  This is the advantage the government knows that they can take.
[12:57.080 --> 12:58.720]  This is what we have to overcome.
[12:58.720 --> 13:03.960]  Let me bring up something that happens out here in the San Antonio area.
[13:03.960 --> 13:11.680]  See, this is pretty much of the military town, and they have the, what they call the Tea
[13:11.680 --> 13:18.600]  Party has a group here in San Antonio, so I invited them out to watch this new video
[13:18.600 --> 13:29.560]  that's out called Anatomy of a Great Deception, and none of them have responded whatsoever,
[13:29.560 --> 13:38.240]  and I'm sure it's because of the content, they're sure that this is going to imply that
[13:38.240 --> 13:43.840]  the Republican Party had something to do with this stuff, and the Republican president was
[13:43.840 --> 13:49.960]  in on some of this stuff, and so that hurts their cause because this Tea Party stuff is
[13:49.960 --> 13:57.000]  kind of basically Republican in nature, and it's also a lot of veterans and all of this,
[13:57.000 --> 14:04.480]  so they're afraid that if they advertise much of this truth about 9-11, that they would
[14:04.480 --> 14:13.640]  be boycotted by many of the veterans and people in the military in San Antonio, and also even
[14:13.640 --> 14:19.160]  members of their own group, they would be ostracized and kicked out, so it just, so
[14:19.160 --> 14:25.600]  much of this is peer pressure, and all of this though is called, all of this peer pressure
[14:25.600 --> 14:36.200]  though is caused by a tyrannical private media that's taken over, such a, just a handful
[14:36.200 --> 14:39.680]  of these guys that run all the major media sources.
[14:39.680 --> 14:46.680]  Yeah, the government very deliberately restructured things so that they could get two or three
[14:46.680 --> 14:52.600]  people controlling all of the media, then they could very easily control those three
[14:52.600 --> 15:01.960]  people. They don't, we don't have a hundred different news agencies out here now.
[15:01.960 --> 15:08.020]  This is all carefully orchestrated because they understood the nature of the human animal,
[15:08.020 --> 15:17.100]  and they've taken advantage of it. Fortunately, there are other things happening that tend
[15:17.100 --> 15:27.880]  to counteract these imbalances, and we're using it right now. You know, I have an interpretation
[15:27.880 --> 15:36.400]  of a plaque commissioned by a king, an Akkadian king, 5500 years ago. This was found in Nineveh,
[15:36.400 --> 15:44.000]  crossed from Mosul in an Akkadian library, and there were 30,000 Akkadian and Sumerian
[15:44.000 --> 15:50.520]  tablets found in there. And one of them was this plaque, and it said that the king proclaimed
[15:50.520 --> 15:57.040]  that he was reasserting the old law because those in positions of power and influence
[15:57.040 --> 16:04.820]  had so perverted the laws that the citizen could no longer achieve justice if this has
[16:04.820 --> 16:13.920]  been happening for 5500 years. And we're still here. Don't expect it to stop tomorrow.
[16:13.920 --> 16:18.680]  We've either, we're either still here or we have come full circle.
[16:18.680 --> 16:27.240]  I think we keep coming full circle. We get, in times of economic good times, we make money,
[16:27.240 --> 16:36.000]  we get comfortable, and we get less diligence. Then the other forces move things to the point
[16:36.000 --> 16:42.320]  that we can no longer tolerate them, and our children or our grandchildren stand up and
[16:42.320 --> 16:45.840]  throw them off, and the cycle starts again.
[16:45.840 --> 16:49.840]  Well, let me interject an idea here of the whole thing.
[16:49.840 --> 16:51.840]  Hang on, hang on.
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[20:00.000 --> 20:08.560]  Tonight's topic is 9-11 and being that yesterday was the 13th anniversary, this is a very special
[20:08.560 --> 20:16.700]  occasion and with us tonight is Ron Avery, an expert on 9-11, a man who has really, really
[20:16.700 --> 20:22.000]  done his research and his homework and we are speaking with Patrick in Texas.
[20:22.000 --> 20:31.720]  And Patrick, I've got a question for you. Have you not heard that the laws of physics
[20:31.720 --> 20:38.580]  were put on pause 13 years ago?
[20:38.580 --> 20:45.680]  I was not familiar with that, but I guess that must coincide with the law of public
[20:45.680 --> 20:53.040]  safety because of the violation of the CDC and the children being inoculated. So I guess
[20:53.040 --> 20:57.360]  I wasn't familiar with that part of that. I missed that and all the rest of the chaos.
[20:57.360 --> 21:05.720]  Yes, yes. According to the official story from the 9-11 commission, physics disappeared
[21:05.720 --> 21:12.440]  for about, oh, I don't know, three, maybe four hours on that day. It hasn't done it
[21:12.440 --> 21:14.980]  since, but it did it on that day.
[21:14.980 --> 21:18.120]  Those Muslim radicals, they blew up our physics.
[21:18.120 --> 21:24.480]  Well, I have a point here tonight. If this were true, you know, if the Christians are
[21:24.480 --> 21:32.440]  going to believe the 9-11 government story, then they all should become Muslims because,
[21:32.440 --> 21:40.720]  I mean, if the Muslims can suspend the laws of the nature in one day, like God did when
[21:40.720 --> 21:51.880]  he caused the sun or the earth to quit rotating so the sun stood still, then all these Christians
[21:51.880 --> 21:54.640]  should be converting to Mohammedism.
[21:54.640 --> 22:01.560]  Yeah. Islam. Wow.
[22:01.560 --> 22:07.620]  And Joshua said the sun and the moon stopped in the sky.
[22:07.620 --> 22:11.480]  I think I'd just rather believe that the government was up to no good and just flat
[22:11.480 --> 22:17.440]  didn't tell us the truth. I find that a lot more comforting.
[22:17.440 --> 22:25.300]  When we went out, when we went off, went to break, I was kind of making a point that things
[22:25.300 --> 22:31.080]  look difficult and the government looks like it's totally in control and they've contrived
[22:31.080 --> 22:37.420]  to take control and turn this into a police state. And if you think this is a police state,
[22:37.420 --> 22:49.240]  you should pay attention to the average conviction rate. It's only 99.6. But we've been going
[22:49.240 --> 22:50.240]  through these cycles.
[22:50.240 --> 22:52.240]  You mean that 0.04% get off?
[22:52.240 --> 22:53.240]  Yes, they do.
[22:53.240 --> 22:54.240]  Oh, wow.
[22:54.240 --> 22:55.240]  They get away scot-free.
[22:55.240 --> 22:56.240]  Impressive.
[22:56.240 --> 22:59.440]  Those are the guys I need to start hanging out with.
[22:59.440 --> 23:05.360]  We've been going through these cycles every 50 to 60 years for as long as records have
[23:05.360 --> 23:14.320]  been kept. We get happy and sassy and stop paying attention when things are going well
[23:14.320 --> 23:18.720]  and we let the government have more control and they inevitably screw things up to the
[23:18.720 --> 23:26.080]  point that we finally reach our gag limit and say enough of this and fix it. Our children
[23:26.080 --> 23:33.320]  and grandchildren, I guarantee you they will fix this.
[23:33.320 --> 23:35.760]  Their great-grandchildren have to do it again.
[23:35.760 --> 23:45.400]  Randy, on that note, I would like to add that my perception of where we're at in America
[23:45.400 --> 23:56.280]  is that we're in between two lawful governments and the area we're in now can accurately be
[23:56.280 --> 24:04.760]  called anarchy because we're under a dissolved, unlawful, tyrannical government, which is
[24:04.760 --> 24:11.600]  really no law. If you don't have a lawful government, then you really don't have a government
[24:11.600 --> 24:21.320]  essentially. So you're under anarchy. It's just people acting without authority.
[24:21.320 --> 24:27.960]  People get tired of living under anarchy and they begin to seek lawful government.
[24:27.960 --> 24:35.320]  So our founders, our forefathers that founded America and the Constitution and the Declaration
[24:35.320 --> 24:40.080]  of Independence, these people were thirsty for lawful government because they had been
[24:40.080 --> 24:47.040]  under tyranny and usurpation and they were tired of living that way.
[24:47.040 --> 24:52.560]  The people in America, but if they still, if they maintain the idea that they're under
[24:52.560 --> 24:58.820]  a lawful government and they must conform to it in every way and they must believe and
[24:58.820 --> 25:05.680]  do all of that in everything they're doing and saying, then you don't progress very much
[25:05.680 --> 25:12.240]  in terms of achieving a lawful government. But I think we're approaching this position
[25:12.240 --> 25:18.880]  pretty rapidly that people are beginning to say, wait a minute, we're not living under
[25:18.880 --> 25:26.000]  a lawful government anymore. And they begin to ask the question, well, how many provisions
[25:26.000 --> 25:33.160]  of our Constitution have to be overturned and changed by law without the required amendments
[25:33.160 --> 25:39.600]  before our government is no longer legitimate and authorized? Well, the answer to that is
[25:39.600 --> 25:45.640]  that there's only one and we have over 10 major provisions that are altered by law without
[25:45.640 --> 25:53.960]  amendments dissolving it 10 times over. So and it's obvious that the government knows
[25:53.960 --> 25:59.360]  this more than the people do because the government and the media are controlling the nation,
[25:59.360 --> 26:06.520]  not by law, but by creation of crises and then the response to them and manipulation
[26:06.520 --> 26:14.800]  of emotional passions of the people. So but I'm saying we're at a good point in history
[26:14.800 --> 26:19.840]  because people are saying, you know what, I don't like living that way. It's time to
[26:19.840 --> 26:23.400]  have lawful government and they're going to get it.
[26:23.400 --> 26:31.000]  And another good piece of information during the Revolutionary War, you know, only 3 percent
[26:31.000 --> 26:38.580]  of the people became sovereign citizens. Yeah. The ones who became sovereign citizens were
[26:38.580 --> 26:46.280]  the ones who stood up and fought in the revolution. That was only 3 percent. Everybody else.
[26:46.280 --> 26:50.680]  When you say became sovereign citizens, what do you actually mean by that?
[26:50.680 --> 26:59.040]  After the war, the government declared that those people who fought in this for independence
[26:59.040 --> 27:05.920]  and their progeny would be sovereign. So when they talk about sovereign citizens, that's
[27:05.920 --> 27:11.820]  something really specific. If you can trace your heritage back to someone who fought in
[27:11.820 --> 27:16.440]  the revolution, then you can claim sovereignty.
[27:16.440 --> 27:26.360]  Well, how would you do that? I can do that. I can actually do that.
[27:26.360 --> 27:31.440]  If you go to the Congress and you want to speak to the Congress and you demonstrate
[27:31.440 --> 27:37.000]  that you're a sovereign citizen, they'll bring you up. You can speak to them. But the
[27:37.000 --> 27:41.920]  point is, there's only 3 percent. Well, here's what I'm going to say about
[27:41.920 --> 27:47.240]  that, because this is my knowledge and perception of what you're talking about. To me and my
[27:47.240 --> 27:53.800]  understanding of sovereignty, sovereignty is something that you realize mentally and
[27:53.800 --> 28:01.040]  intellectually because God is him who makes people sovereign. And God does not alter this
[28:01.040 --> 28:08.480]  sovereignty based on documents written by men.
[28:08.480 --> 28:18.120]  Sovereignty is something that God delivers through a chain of authority. In other words,
[28:18.120 --> 28:21.200]  I'm sovereign no matter what the government thinks of me.
[28:21.200 --> 28:29.040]  I was speaking to sovereignty in a political sense, only as to Caesar's form of sovereignty.
[28:29.040 --> 28:32.480]  Well, Caesar recognizes your sovereignty. Yeah.
[28:32.480 --> 28:38.760]  I don't know if I'm sovereign or not, but in this country, I have public servants. I
[28:38.760 --> 28:44.200]  am a citizen. I can't be a sovereign citizen either, a sovereign or a citizen. You can't
[28:44.200 --> 28:48.700]  be both. Why is that?
[28:48.700 --> 28:57.040]  I am a citizen. I have public servants. And my relationship to the public servants is
[28:57.040 --> 29:05.360]  they are the servants. I am the master. That'll work for me. But my point on the other was
[29:05.360 --> 29:11.700]  it only took 3 percent. And that's all it'll take now. We don't have to get everybody
[29:11.700 --> 29:16.240]  to stand up. 3 percent will get it done.
[29:16.240 --> 29:21.640]  Gentlemen, I'd like to read something and challenge Patrick to tell me where I'm getting
[29:21.640 --> 29:28.720]  this from. This is a direct quote. And I'll give you a hint, Patrick. This is organic
[29:28.720 --> 29:37.880]  law, inorganic law. And I hear a break coming up. Tell you what, let's go to break and I'll
[29:37.880 --> 29:42.880]  bring this back in on the other side. Folks, you're listening to Rule of Law Radio 512-646-1984
[29:42.880 --> 29:51.640]  is the number you can dial to join us in conversation. We have Ron Avery with us tonight. Let's try
[29:51.640 --> 29:57.360]  to stay on topic tonight with the 9-11 issue. Folks, we'll be right back after this break.
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[33:19.160 --> 33:38.800]  Welcome back to Rule of Law Radio folks. 512-646-1984 is the number you can dial to join us in conversation
[33:38.800 --> 33:46.160]  as Patrick in Texas did. And Patrick, before we go back, we were kind of talking over the
[33:46.160 --> 33:56.560]  break and we were talking about balance. There are a lot of broadcasters out here on, what
[33:56.560 --> 34:02.160]  shall I call this, just for lack of a better vernacular, let's call it Patriot Radio or
[34:02.160 --> 34:09.080]  Alternative Radio. Radio such as Rule of Law Radio, Logos Radio Network are all of our
[34:09.080 --> 34:15.840]  hosts and broadcasters. We've got to have balance. There's a lot of people that get
[34:15.840 --> 34:23.840]  on the radio and they use their microphone simply to bring up the problems. We know the
[34:23.840 --> 34:29.560]  problems. What we need are solutions. This is one of the things that I pride myself on
[34:29.560 --> 34:35.080]  being a broadcaster here on Rule of Law Radio or being a co-host here at Rule of Law Radio
[34:35.080 --> 34:41.820]  is that we actually bring some solution to the table. And without that balance, everything
[34:41.820 --> 34:47.940]  is out of balance. Everything has been out of balance and that is the problem. What we
[34:47.940 --> 34:56.080]  need to do, we the people need to do is bring balance and it is our duty. And Patrick, I
[34:56.080 --> 35:01.780]  had a challenge for you before we went to break and that challenge was to tell me where
[35:01.780 --> 35:09.220]  I am getting the following quote, speaking of balance. Prudence indeed will dictate that
[35:09.220 --> 35:15.000]  governments long established should not be changed for light or transient causes. And
[35:15.000 --> 35:24.080]  accordingly, all experience has shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer while
[35:24.080 --> 35:32.640]  evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are
[35:32.640 --> 35:40.960]  accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations pursuing invariably the same
[35:40.960 --> 35:51.200]  object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it
[35:51.200 --> 36:00.280]  is their duty to throw off such government and provide new guards for their future security.
[36:00.280 --> 36:10.120]  Where did I get that, Patrick? No, I cannot tell you exactly, but I feel very compelled
[36:10.120 --> 36:21.080]  to say the bill is right. Think, think Tommy. Think Tommy, oh my. Thomas Jefferson, you
[36:21.080 --> 36:31.040]  are right. Thomas, yes. Declaration of Independence. Thank you very much. In Congress, July the
[36:31.040 --> 36:38.440]  4th, 1776, that is our Declaration of Independence. Ladies and gentlemen, this imposes a duty
[36:38.440 --> 36:49.440]  on you, on me, on each of us. We have reached that point. I would say that's correct. When
[36:49.440 --> 36:54.960]  you've got a government that is, that will not investigate a crime with all this kind
[36:54.960 --> 37:01.560]  of evidence that has surfaced, you no longer have a lawful government in place. And that
[37:01.560 --> 37:10.120]  means you have tyranny and anarchy in place. And it's our God-given right to seek a lawful
[37:10.120 --> 37:15.360]  government for the protection of our property. And that's exactly what Thomas Jefferson was
[37:15.360 --> 37:20.800]  talking about in the Declaration of Independence. Yes. Exactly. And that's the one thing I was
[37:20.800 --> 37:28.000]  trying to relay prior to 9-11 of this year was, I don't know if you listen to Alex Jones
[37:28.000 --> 37:32.160]  or not, but anyone else out there speaking, bottom line is, okay, so they're going to
[37:32.160 --> 37:36.440]  go off. They might do a false flag event. They'll take away more of our freedom. You
[37:36.440 --> 37:43.200]  know what? No. Bottom line is your INS, your border patrol, your Homeland Security, all
[37:43.200 --> 37:48.200]  of the TSA, all of these things that you've ramped up in the past 13 years have failed
[37:48.200 --> 37:55.240]  miserably. And it's nothing to do with anything to do with terrorism, because obviously, if
[37:55.240 --> 37:59.760]  we're going to start talking about terrorism, then we're going to start talking about individuals
[37:59.760 --> 38:07.040]  inside our own government, because this is the reality. Based upon total fact, and this
[38:07.040 --> 38:12.040]  is why I have such a hard problem, these people think they can have more and more and more
[38:12.040 --> 38:17.120]  rights stripped from them when another terror event, quote-unquote terror, please use that
[38:17.120 --> 38:24.440]  very, very, very lightly, occurs, because they think that they need to be more protected.
[38:24.440 --> 38:32.040]  But you know what? All you are being is more stripped. And that's the thing that the blind
[38:32.040 --> 38:38.240]  sheep, I guess, is the best way to put it, being led to slaughter, understands, is that
[38:38.240 --> 38:43.000]  if something happens, I need more security. Oh, you gave me a fence. Oh, great. Now the
[38:43.000 --> 38:49.320]  wolf can't get me. No, that's basic one-on-one. The reality outside of that is the wolf is
[38:49.320 --> 38:54.240]  the individual who caused the event to cause the fence to build, to cause you to feel that
[38:54.240 --> 38:58.960]  you need someone else to protect you. That's just the frustrating part that people can't
[38:58.960 --> 39:02.160]  see past or understand. And we get...
[39:02.160 --> 39:07.880]  Well, Patrick, that brings us back to the question that Randy asked you earlier. Are
[39:07.880 --> 39:14.080]  you willing, you, sir, are you, Patrick in Texas, willing to turn over the tables and
[39:14.080 --> 39:21.640]  the money changers? Are you the one that is willing to bring about the change that was
[39:21.640 --> 39:22.640]  promised?
[39:22.640 --> 39:28.560]  Let me interject something here, too, if you don't mind, because I know what happens sometimes
[39:28.560 --> 39:39.440]  is that people advocate some kind of response to government tyranny. One thing I've done
[39:39.440 --> 39:45.560]  in my research and all the things, and I've researched all kinds of aspects about this
[39:45.560 --> 39:51.520]  present unlawful government, what's going on in the tax system, what's going on in the
[39:51.520 --> 39:59.680]  judicial system, now what's going on in its black ops and false flag operations, what
[39:59.680 --> 40:08.560]  this leads me to is that no individual can stand up alone against this stuff. We have
[40:08.560 --> 40:14.740]  to actually work together. And I don't think we ought to challenge people to go out and
[40:14.740 --> 40:22.760]  particularly do anything. And I think the main thing to do is just educate ourselves
[40:22.760 --> 40:29.680]  and educate everybody around us and just keep doing that until the momentum of facts and
[40:29.680 --> 40:35.840]  knowledge and information and the desire for lawful government eventually reaches a point
[40:35.840 --> 40:46.440]  where it just naturally occurs. I don't advocate anybody lay down in front of a freight train
[40:46.440 --> 40:51.600]  on a railroad track, because we know that doesn't stop it.
[40:51.600 --> 41:00.280]  Let me explain why I even brought that up. It wasn't that I'm advocating that people
[41:00.280 --> 41:07.320]  put themselves in harm's way. I was bringing out the point of they're not all bad guys
[41:07.320 --> 41:14.400]  out there. All these people who are focused on other things, they got families, they got
[41:14.400 --> 41:21.160]  debts to pay, they've got a job they're struggling to keep. You can't expect everybody to be
[41:21.160 --> 41:25.600]  in a position where they can go kick over the tables with money changers.
[41:25.600 --> 41:35.080]  But if you see this injustice and you feel that you're unable to do anything about it,
[41:35.080 --> 41:43.360]  it is highly frustrating. And my point is, let's not be too quick to condemn our fellow
[41:43.360 --> 41:55.320]  man. It is up to us as those who are willing to stand up and kick the money tables over
[41:55.320 --> 42:04.680]  to sit back and think about how can we make this something that people can stand behind?
[42:04.680 --> 42:12.100]  How can we give them something they can rally around? Because if we just stand up and rail
[42:12.100 --> 42:18.360]  in righteous indignation, we're serving no purpose. We serve a little purpose in that
[42:18.360 --> 42:24.280]  we bring it to someone's attention. But if we're bringing horrible things to their attention,
[42:24.280 --> 42:30.360]  I think I can think of very little that's worse than 9-11, that our government would
[42:30.360 --> 42:41.280]  slaughter 3400 human beings, especially Americans, in order to incite the American public against
[42:41.280 --> 42:51.160]  Islam or that belief system. It kind of sounds like what happened in the Spanish American
[42:51.160 --> 42:58.840]  War, where they rallied the people behind the slogan, Remember the Maine. And it turns
[42:58.840 --> 43:11.160]  out 50 years later, or 90 years later, that we fired on that vessel and killed 1300 Marines
[43:11.160 --> 43:17.120]  so that we could incite the American public against the Spanish. So will our government
[43:17.120 --> 43:19.560]  do these things? Of course they'll do these things.
[43:19.560 --> 43:23.520]  They're called false flag events for a reason.
[43:23.520 --> 43:29.360]  Does our government consider us chattel or those human beings who were in positions of
[43:29.360 --> 43:36.560]  power and authority? Yeah. Do they think they're doing the hard things for the right reason?
[43:36.560 --> 43:45.800]  Yeah, they probably do. But still the wrong thing. Wait, hang on, hang on. We're about
[43:45.800 --> 43:55.680]  to go to break. Randy Kelton and Steve Skidmore here with Ron Avery. I call in number 512-646-1984.
[43:55.680 --> 43:58.040]  We'll be right back.
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[46:25.480 --> 46:32.480]  Always, I must be careful what I'm wishing for. When I'm hungry, I like to know just
[46:32.480 --> 46:41.480]  what I'm fishing for. I ain't asking for much. I ain't trying to be no glutton. I'm just
[46:41.480 --> 46:52.480]  here making my living pushing buttons. I get my message out to anyone in shouting distance.
[46:52.480 --> 47:01.680]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Steve Skidmore, Rule of Law Radio. Benjamin Franklin once
[47:01.680 --> 47:10.240]  said, a great empire, like a great cake is most easily diminished at the edges. That
[47:10.240 --> 47:16.120]  was essentially my point going out. We're talking about some really horrible stuff going
[47:16.120 --> 47:27.000]  on and it can get overwhelming. And I kind of feel uncomfortable indicating that there's
[47:27.000 --> 47:34.460]  something out here that's so overwhelming, there's nothing we can do about it. And absolutely,
[47:34.460 --> 47:43.980]  there is something we can do about it. And Patrick, in order to add your voice and your
[47:43.980 --> 47:50.120]  influence to the pressure we put on the government, you don't have to go in and kick over the
[47:50.120 --> 47:55.960]  tables of the money changers. This is a more intractable enemy and there are other ways
[47:55.960 --> 48:05.460]  to get at him. So I'm hoping that along with giving notice of the problem that we're also
[48:05.460 --> 48:12.840]  able to offer solutions. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
[48:12.840 --> 48:18.080]  Over the break, I'd kind of like to bring this to the air. Over the break, I asked our
[48:18.080 --> 48:25.080]  guest Ron Avery, do you have grandchildren? And to which he responded, yes, I have three.
[48:25.080 --> 48:31.280]  So I then asked, have you been subject to an animated film, a Pixar film called A Bug's
[48:31.280 --> 48:38.100]  Life? Any of you folks who've got kids over the age of five are probably very familiar
[48:38.100 --> 48:44.760]  with A Bug's Life. There was a scene in A Bug's Life and I've got a point to this here.
[48:44.760 --> 48:52.860]  I've got actually two points. One being the media doesn't always lie, but in the truth,
[48:52.860 --> 48:59.280]  it's told in A Bug's Life. There's a specific scene there in A Bug's Life. And let me kind
[48:59.280 --> 49:05.560]  of set this up very briefly. The good guys are the ants, the bad guys are the grasshoppers.
[49:05.560 --> 49:12.720]  There are the totalitarians, the grasshoppers are. There's a lead or a head grasshopper,
[49:12.720 --> 49:20.040]  big guy, got a scar across his face, real tyrannical figure. And there's another one
[49:20.040 --> 49:28.360]  that's kind of his subject that's really not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but the
[49:28.360 --> 49:36.080]  whole story is based on an offering given by the ants to the grasshoppers to be left
[49:36.080 --> 49:44.160]  alone, kind of like a mafia scenario. You pay us and nothing will happen to your store
[49:44.160 --> 49:53.920]  windows. So the task, an annual task for the ants were to gather not only food for themselves,
[49:53.920 --> 50:02.480]  but food for the grasshoppers as well. So there was this one ant, he was an ingenious
[50:02.480 --> 50:12.140]  inventor and he figured out how to harvest seeds a lot more efficiently. And he was doing
[50:12.140 --> 50:18.440]  a good job, unfortunately, for the colony. He was a little bit of a klutz and he knocked
[50:18.440 --> 50:23.480]  over all of the seeds that were gathered. And it was just about the time for the grasshoppers
[50:23.480 --> 50:32.640]  to come and receive their offering, ensuring safety to the colony of ants. Well, the grasshoppers
[50:32.640 --> 50:40.720]  had, they showed up and lo and behold, there's no offering this year. So the little subject
[50:40.720 --> 50:45.320]  grasshopper was talking to the big grasshopper. He had a seed in his hand and he says, but
[50:45.320 --> 50:51.840]  boss, what about the seeds? And the boss grasshopper, the guy with scar across his eye, he knocked
[50:51.840 --> 50:59.680]  the seed out of his hand. He says, you moron, it's not about the seeds. It's about control.
[50:59.680 --> 51:08.200]  If you allow one of these puny little ants to step out of line, they'll all step out
[51:08.200 --> 51:21.180]  of line and they outnumber us a thousand to one. Now that's my first point. We out numbered
[51:21.180 --> 51:34.440]  them folks, millions to one. So where are we? Are we willing to turn over the tables?
[51:34.440 --> 51:45.420]  Not specifically, but collectively. Now, second point, the media does tell us the truth sometimes,
[51:45.420 --> 51:52.000]  but they tell us the truth in these little animated things or in a film, in a movie.
[51:52.000 --> 51:59.980]  They'll tell us outright truth, but they tell us in such a way that if we mention it to
[51:59.980 --> 52:07.000]  our neighbors, to our friends, to our loved ones, we will immediately be deemed insane.
[52:07.000 --> 52:13.660]  Are you kidding me? You mean to believe that, you mean to tell me that you believe that
[52:13.660 --> 52:22.720]  what you saw in a cartoon is truth? Well, yeah, actually I do because I'm smart enough
[52:22.720 --> 52:35.040]  to see it. Pretty good. So Patrick, I think I'll show that movie right along with anatomy
[52:35.040 --> 52:40.700]  of a great deception. There you go. Yeah. Just pull that scene out, isolate it and there
[52:40.700 --> 52:48.040]  you go. But it's absolute truth. You know, they will tell us in such a fashion that if
[52:48.040 --> 52:57.920]  we raise the issue as truth, we're deemed idiots, certifiably crazy. Yeah. I'd like
[52:57.920 --> 53:06.540]  to at least add one small thing about what people could do regarding this 9-11 stuff
[53:06.540 --> 53:14.540]  is that my good friend, Richard Gage, the founder of Architects and Engineers for 9-11
[53:14.540 --> 53:23.980]  Truth, he is a good guy to support with any kind of donations, even a small donation and
[53:23.980 --> 53:32.060]  a good source of information to buy DVDs from and they've made some very good DVDs that
[53:32.060 --> 53:41.100]  you can hand out and you can buy them really at a pretty good price in bulk. And there's
[53:41.100 --> 53:50.160]  all kinds of information you can get from him, all kinds of flyers and little brochures
[53:50.160 --> 53:55.540]  and things, little postcard type things that are really well done and has good information
[53:55.540 --> 54:03.980]  on it. They do a really good job of printing all that and it's pretty economical and he's
[54:03.980 --> 54:10.380]  just a good guy to support in relation to this and I would advocate people at least
[54:10.380 --> 54:22.140]  get involved with that. Their website is ae911truth.org. So I'd advocate you can do that. One more
[54:22.140 --> 54:34.780]  time. Ae911truth.org. And I'll back you up on that. My wife and I, we no longer have
[54:34.780 --> 54:42.140]  a television in our house. We do not watch television. I put the television on the curb
[54:42.140 --> 54:52.100]  where it belongs years ago and it's because of publications such as the one that you just
[54:52.100 --> 54:57.940]  mentioned. By the way, that gives me another idea. I've often had this idea and I've never
[54:57.940 --> 55:04.260]  really organized it or done it but I'm dying to do it. Hopefully I can get some people
[55:04.260 --> 55:11.660]  involved in it. It's kind of a crazy demonstration but I wanted to get cardboard boxes and paint
[55:11.660 --> 55:18.420]  them like television sets and just have a whole bunch of them out and take them out
[55:18.420 --> 55:29.020]  of the park with a bunch of baseball bats and paint CBS, NBC, ABC, Fox, CNN and just
[55:29.020 --> 55:35.960]  beat the living smut out of these things in the park. I think it would just be fantastic
[55:35.960 --> 55:44.100]  and film it and put it on YouTube and see how far we could go with that. I think it
[55:44.100 --> 55:50.660]  would be too. I've been wanting to do it for years and I mentioned it on Facebook and a
[55:50.660 --> 55:57.080]  few places here and there but nothing ever happened. I'd love to do it. Well my wife
[55:57.080 --> 56:02.980]  collects boxes. Where do I send them? Really? Yeah. Well I'm going to send you my email
[56:02.980 --> 56:07.780]  and I'll send you my physical address and you can shoot them on over to me. There you
[56:07.780 --> 56:14.060]  go. Well Patrick, we do have some other callers. Do you have anything else for us this evening?
[56:14.060 --> 56:19.860]  Yeah and I apologize. We've lost by so much time. I do. I do have some theories and one
[56:19.860 --> 56:26.380]  thing I propose is very simply, it's like you put the people that are quasi in power
[56:26.380 --> 56:31.700]  I guess you'd say, your senators, legislators, you know, you can say very simply to them
[56:31.700 --> 56:36.820]  it's like look you need to take action on the machines to do this or you need to step
[56:36.820 --> 56:41.740]  down because if you don't then you're going to be held in contempt and you do the same
[56:41.740 --> 56:46.660]  thing. It's just like if we have these breaches, when we have these agencies in place like
[56:46.660 --> 56:51.020]  INS and Border Patrol and all this, it's because they're going to be effective or you need
[56:51.020 --> 56:54.620]  to disband them because they are no longer effective and we need to start talking to
[56:54.620 --> 57:01.100]  them on an individual level to reimburse us for their salaries for ineffectiveness. You
[57:01.100 --> 57:06.140]  need to start holding these individuals accountable. Even Ted Cruz, even Rand Paul, these guys
[57:06.140 --> 57:12.060]  it's like look, I know they've got you by the lower level of the intestinal fortitude
[57:12.060 --> 57:17.780]  below the waistline but you know what, you've got to step up and either do what it is you
[57:17.780 --> 57:25.260]  feel and what you compel and what you speak about or we need this to come to this and
[57:25.260 --> 57:31.380]  live in this world. And I really wish that I had an outlet, I mean if I could get a body
[57:31.380 --> 57:36.700]  of even 20,000 people in this small number to be able to advocate this and I'd go forward
[57:36.700 --> 57:41.340]  and say look guys, here's the problem, we need to bring a solution to the table and
[57:41.340 --> 57:45.340]  if you don't bring a solution to the table there's a financial ramifications. And so
[57:45.340 --> 57:48.940]  now we have President Obama saying okay we're going to go to war. It's like where are you
[57:48.940 --> 57:53.580]  getting the funds from Mr. Obama? Well I'm going to get it from the US government. More
[57:53.580 --> 57:58.220]  importantly where are you getting the authority? Let me remind you it is their right, it is
[57:58.220 --> 58:05.420]  their duty to throw off such government and provide a new guard for their future security.
[58:05.420 --> 58:11.980]  And I hear the music in the background folks, 512-646-1984 is the number that you can dial,
[58:11.980 --> 58:16.380]  we're coming up at the top of the hour of break. And Patrick if you've got something
[58:16.380 --> 58:22.060]  else we'll come back to you on the other side. But before we go to break I'd like to mention
[58:22.060 --> 58:28.620]  that you're talking about trying to hold these guys accountable. It's way past that. We are
[58:28.620 --> 58:37.940]  way, we are so far beyond that at this point. I agree. There is no fixing what is already
[58:37.940 --> 58:46.860]  there, it's got to be thrown off and replaced. Completely. I agree. Start from scratch. We'll
[58:46.860 --> 58:53.860]  be right back. Stay tuned. Wow.
[59:16.860 --> 59:23.860]  Thank you.
[59:46.860 --> 59:53.860]  Thank you.
[01:00:16.860 --> 01:00:23.860]  We'll be right back.
[01:00:46.860 --> 01:00:54.860]  We'll be right back.
[01:01:17.860 --> 01:01:23.860]  Gun Owners of America is the latest and largest organization to publicly support Shafer Cox,
[01:01:23.860 --> 01:01:27.860]  the American political prisoner who's locked in a cage for allegedly conspiring to overthrow
[01:01:27.860 --> 01:01:32.860]  the government. They've designed a flyer about Shafer to be handed out at gun shows. You can
[01:01:32.860 --> 01:01:37.860]  download a copy by visiting FreeShaferCox.com. Included in the flyer is a quote from Shafer
[01:01:37.860 --> 01:01:42.860]  himself written from his jail cell in Marion, Illinois. He writes in part, our self-ownership,
[01:01:42.860 --> 01:01:47.860]  self-determination, and self-esteem rest on three essential lags. We must be able to think
[01:01:47.860 --> 01:01:53.860]  for ourselves, provide for ourselves, and defend ourselves.
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[01:01:57.860 --> 01:02:02.860]  while working on a lawnmower, according to a report from Fox 13 in Houston. Not only
[01:02:02.860 --> 01:02:06.860]  was he suspended from work, but the city's mayor is now demanding a public apology, as
[01:02:06.860 --> 01:02:11.860]  well as asking him to attend a flag retiring ceremony. Although the employee's actions
[01:02:11.860 --> 01:02:15.860]  were not illegal, it's causing an uproar, and he has yet to apologize.
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[01:03:25.860 --> 01:03:48.860]  Thank you.
[01:03:48.860 --> 01:04:08.860]  Welcome back to Rule Law Radio, folks. I made a statement before we went out on air
[01:04:08.860 --> 01:04:15.860]  and I really want people to pay very, very close attention to that. Let me go back and
[01:04:15.860 --> 01:04:27.860]  read that again. The words of Thomas Jefferson in Congress, July 4, 1776, it is their right,
[01:04:27.860 --> 01:04:37.860]  it is their duty to throw off such government. What part of that says fix what you got, guys?
[01:04:37.860 --> 01:04:43.860]  It's too late to fix it. There is no fix it.
[01:04:43.860 --> 01:04:46.860]  Can you hear me? I can. Go ahead.
[01:04:46.860 --> 01:04:54.860]  Oh, good. I want to add to that. That just blew me away. You said we need to form a new
[01:04:54.860 --> 01:05:01.860]  government from scratch and very few people I know of have actually said that and I've
[01:05:01.860 --> 01:05:12.860]  said that for a number of years now. In fact, I sent all 100 senators a notice of dissolution
[01:05:12.860 --> 01:05:22.860]  of the United States federal government back in about 2005 and it's online at postwtc.com.
[01:05:22.860 --> 01:05:25.860]  Say that again?
[01:05:25.860 --> 01:05:33.860]  Post, P-O-S-T, wtc.com, World Trade Center, postworldtradescenter.com.
[01:05:33.860 --> 01:05:34.860]  Very good.
[01:05:34.860 --> 01:05:43.860]  And look under Letters on the left-hand side of the menu and click on that and look under
[01:05:43.860 --> 01:05:50.860]  Notice of Dissolution and you'll find it. But the reason I think that is so important,
[01:05:50.860 --> 01:05:58.860]  I want to bring up the concept of why that's where we're at. When a government is dissolved
[01:05:58.860 --> 01:06:06.860]  by the alteration of its provisions by law without the required amendments, it destroys
[01:06:06.860 --> 01:06:14.860]  the authority of every branch of government. And there's no one with any authority in the
[01:06:14.860 --> 01:06:21.860]  federal government any longer to even try cases or to alter the law or do anything like
[01:06:21.860 --> 01:06:29.860]  that. What happened and obviously when the structure of the government is destroyed by
[01:06:29.860 --> 01:06:37.860]  this means that they have done, you cannot repair it by replacing the people that sit
[01:06:37.860 --> 01:06:46.860]  in those offices because the offices are destroyed. So all we're doing is spending a lot of
[01:06:46.860 --> 01:06:54.860]  time and a lot of money every four years or every two years and four years on replacing
[01:06:54.860 --> 01:07:01.860]  tyrants. Because even if you put a good man in an office with no authority, everything
[01:07:01.860 --> 01:07:07.860]  he does is without authority and that happens to be the definition of tyranny. It's the
[01:07:07.860 --> 01:07:17.860]  exercise of power without authority. So as you can see now that when government is so
[01:07:17.860 --> 01:07:24.860]  destroyed like our federal government, it can't be repaired from inside it by replacing
[01:07:24.860 --> 01:07:30.860]  people and doing, trying to pass laws. Well, they don't even have authority to pass laws.
[01:07:30.860 --> 01:07:41.860]  They don't have authority to rescind laws or to repeal them. It's just a, we don't even
[01:07:41.860 --> 01:07:46.860]  have to remove it. It removed itself. It has no authority.
[01:07:46.860 --> 01:07:50.860]  All we the people have to do is recognize that for fact.
[01:07:50.860 --> 01:07:55.860]  That's correct. That is correct. All you need to do is recognize it.
[01:07:55.860 --> 01:08:00.860]  Patrick, you got anything to say in parting, sir? We do have another caller we need to
[01:08:00.860 --> 01:08:01.860]  get to.
[01:08:01.860 --> 01:08:03.860]  No, I apologize. Yes, I do.
[01:08:03.860 --> 01:08:06.860]  No, no need for no need for an apology.
[01:08:06.860 --> 01:08:12.860]  No, I apologize. We're not trying to repair it. These people are beyond that. There's
[01:08:12.860 --> 01:08:18.860]  an office that I will call the Hitler Peace Prize and I won't go into it because it's
[01:08:18.860 --> 01:08:24.860]  going to be too long to be able to explain for people to get a proper understanding of
[01:08:24.860 --> 01:08:31.860]  it. And don't make the name wrong because it's not an element supported by the U.S.
[01:08:31.860 --> 01:08:36.860]  and all the U.N. for a Nazi Jew elimination project. That's not what it is.
[01:08:36.860 --> 01:08:40.860]  Is this something in your head or is this something that's available online, something
[01:08:40.860 --> 01:08:43.860]  that people can access?
[01:08:43.860 --> 01:08:48.860]  Not yet. It's still in my head. And I've got it, but I haven't published it. But it is
[01:08:48.860 --> 01:08:50.860]  available to publish soon.
[01:08:50.860 --> 01:08:52.860]  I encourage you to.
[01:08:52.860 --> 01:08:58.860]  That's holding all countries and all governments accountable. So it's not just for us, but
[01:08:58.860 --> 01:09:03.860]  that's beyond where we're at right now. Now, what I was talking about earlier is holding
[01:09:03.860 --> 01:09:08.860]  them accountable to try and make some change. You and I know that's total BS. They're
[01:09:08.860 --> 01:09:12.860]  not going to change. They're all controlled, whether it's a global, whether it's just
[01:09:12.860 --> 01:09:17.860]  because you have the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers and all these other entities involved in
[01:09:17.860 --> 01:09:20.860]  it. Who knows who it is? And I don't even care who it is.
[01:09:20.860 --> 01:09:25.860]  Bottom line is, you all suck. Bottom line. And you don't have any ethics. You don't
[01:09:25.860 --> 01:09:32.860]  have any morals. And you don't want to further and foster this country as it was designed
[01:09:32.860 --> 01:09:34.860]  to be. And that's what we-
[01:09:34.860 --> 01:09:39.860]  That is a prerequisite for a political life these days.
[01:09:39.860 --> 01:09:45.860]  Right. But they need to go. All of them. And my thing was, very clearly, if there was a
[01:09:45.860 --> 01:09:51.860]  9-11 event this year, then all of you are immediately removed from office. You all will
[01:09:51.860 --> 01:09:54.860]  be removed from the U.S. and you'll be detained-
[01:09:54.860 --> 01:09:59.860]  Whoa, whoa, whoa. Why put that stipulation? We've already had it. We've already had
[01:09:59.860 --> 01:10:05.860]  the 9-11. They're done. They're toast. If they're not, we are. It's time. We, the
[01:10:05.860 --> 01:10:13.860]  people, step up to the plate and we perform our duty as outlined in the words of Thomas
[01:10:13.860 --> 01:10:21.860]  Jefferson some 200-plus years ago. Folks, grab yourself by your guts. It's time.
[01:10:21.860 --> 01:10:26.860]  Yes, yes, yes. Dude, we need a party to remove them. Bottom line is, the U.S. will never
[01:10:26.860 --> 01:10:32.860]  be able to recover from $17-plus trillion in debt. We need to declare some national
[01:10:32.860 --> 01:10:34.860]  bankruptcy. We're not going to-
[01:10:34.860 --> 01:10:41.860]  In 1971, we were taken off the silver standard. In 1933, we were taken off the gold standard.
[01:10:41.860 --> 01:10:48.860]  Since then, since 1971, thank you, Mr. Nixon, we have been on a 100% debt currency. You
[01:10:48.860 --> 01:10:53.860]  will never borrow your way out of debt, period, period, period.
[01:10:53.860 --> 01:10:54.860]  Never.
[01:10:54.860 --> 01:11:04.860]  Along with our form of government, we must abolish that form of control, that Federal
[01:11:04.860 --> 01:11:08.860]  Reserve note. There's nothing federal about it. There's no reserve and it's not a note.
[01:11:08.860 --> 01:11:14.860]  No, it's not. They're all false, false, and false, period.
[01:11:14.860 --> 01:11:17.860]  Yes, it's all got to go.
[01:11:17.860 --> 01:11:24.860]  Well, even the debt was created unlawfully by a violation of the U.S. Constitution, so
[01:11:24.860 --> 01:11:32.860]  the debt is not foreclosable. The debt is not secure. It cannot be secure because it
[01:11:32.860 --> 01:11:38.860]  was even created in violation of the law, so it was fraud. The debt itself is fraud.
[01:11:38.860 --> 01:11:46.860]  It ought to be- I forgot the name of it now. It's the legal definition of declaring it
[01:11:46.860 --> 01:11:52.860]  unlawful. There's a term for it. I can't think of it.
[01:11:52.860 --> 01:11:58.860]  Well, for intent to defraud, I mean, we can go on and on and on, but no, I know what you
[01:11:58.860 --> 01:12:06.860]  talked about. We need to stop paying these monthly and yearly accruals for this debt.
[01:12:06.860 --> 01:12:09.860]  We don't owe you anything. We're not going to pay to-
[01:12:09.860 --> 01:12:13.860]  Think of it- Okay, Patrick, think of it this way. I hate to keep interrupting you, but
[01:12:13.860 --> 01:12:14.860]  think of it this way.
[01:12:14.860 --> 01:12:15.860]  Yep. Okay.
[01:12:15.860 --> 01:12:25.860]  If- Okay. Again, you will never borrow your way out of debt, so if we are dealing with
[01:12:25.860 --> 01:12:32.860]  a monster, an evil monster, and I believe that we are, this is a monster that you cannot
[01:12:32.860 --> 01:12:39.860]  deal with, you cannot bargain with, you cannot bribe, you cannot buy. The only thing you
[01:12:39.860 --> 01:12:43.860]  can do is starve the damn thing to death.
[01:12:43.860 --> 01:12:45.860]  Yes.
[01:12:45.860 --> 01:12:55.860]  Starve it to death. If it feeds on money, if it feeds on your energy, if it feeds on
[01:12:55.860 --> 01:13:01.860]  your life source, quit giving those things to it. Quit giving in to it.
[01:13:01.860 --> 01:13:07.860]  Well, now, if you're talking about not paying taxes, that's one of those lay yourself
[01:13:07.860 --> 01:13:13.860]  down on the railroad track. I don't advocate that because I've seen too many people who
[01:13:13.860 --> 01:13:17.860]  have actually ended up dying in prison from doing that.
[01:13:17.860 --> 01:13:18.860]  Yes.
[01:13:18.860 --> 01:13:19.860]  So I don't advocate-
[01:13:19.860 --> 01:13:25.860]  If you're in prison or on the street, and yes, let me put on the record, I'm with you,
[01:13:25.860 --> 01:13:33.860]  Ron. Do not lay yourself down in front of a mob of people with guns or that theoretical
[01:13:33.860 --> 01:13:37.860]  or hypothetical freight train.
[01:13:37.860 --> 01:13:41.860]  Yeah, IRS. The IRS is the freight train.
[01:13:41.860 --> 01:13:42.860]  Yes. Exactly.
[01:13:42.860 --> 01:13:47.860]  It's a controlling entity. They use the IRS to control individuals that get beyond their
[01:13:47.860 --> 01:13:51.860]  control. The IRS is nothing more. Obviously, you guys know it's illegal-
[01:13:51.860 --> 01:13:57.860]  Understood. Understood. But now let's talk about an alternative. We've got three minutes
[01:13:57.860 --> 01:14:02.860]  before we go to break. Let's talk about an alternative. There are other ways, rather
[01:14:02.860 --> 01:14:08.860]  than protesting or not paying your taxes, there are other ways. There are so many groups
[01:14:08.860 --> 01:14:18.860]  out there, folks, that barter. If you've got a car, I'll come mow your grass for the next
[01:14:18.860 --> 01:14:26.860]  year for that car. I have a garden. If you paint houses, I can't climb the ladder. I'm
[01:14:26.860 --> 01:14:31.860]  in a wheelchair, but I've got a garden. I'll feed you for the next six months all the fresh
[01:14:31.860 --> 01:14:36.860]  vegetables that you can eat if you'll come by and paint my house. There are other ways
[01:14:36.860 --> 01:14:42.860]  of getting around that tyrannical tax thing without laying yourself down in front of that
[01:14:42.860 --> 01:14:48.860]  freight train. Patrick, we're going to have to cut you short here, buddy. We do have Robert
[01:14:48.860 --> 01:14:55.860]  in Texas that's been waiting very patiently. In the next two minutes, can you sum up what's
[01:14:55.860 --> 01:14:57.860]  on your mind so that we can move on?
[01:14:57.860 --> 01:15:03.860]  Yes. The bottom line is we need to find... You have everyone talking about, this is not right,
[01:15:03.860 --> 01:15:07.860]  this is not right. What can we do? What can we do? We need to find an execution. We need
[01:15:07.860 --> 01:15:13.860]  to find a body of execution. I need a large number of individuals to move forward. I'm
[01:15:13.860 --> 01:15:17.860]  sure Ron agrees with me. We need to have a large body to move forward to say, look, you
[01:15:17.860 --> 01:15:24.860]  guys, you're accountable to us. You are public servants. Understand, you serve us. Period.
[01:15:24.860 --> 01:15:26.860]  We don't succumb to you.
[01:15:26.860 --> 01:15:32.860]  No, they don't. Quit fooling yourself. They don't serve us. They serve their masters.
[01:15:32.860 --> 01:15:36.860]  They can pay them a lot more money than we ever could.
[01:15:36.860 --> 01:15:44.860]  If you don't serve us, you leave office because we don't need or want you. Those are the things.
[01:15:44.860 --> 01:15:49.860]  They understand. They are not the supreme beings. They are not exonerated from the laws
[01:15:49.860 --> 01:15:54.860]  they passed. All these little variables that people have no clue about, they are not that.
[01:15:54.860 --> 01:16:00.860]  If you keep revering them as that, then it will continue on and on and on. We can't change
[01:16:00.860 --> 01:16:05.860]  them. We need to eradicate them. I wholly agree with you. At the same time, we need
[01:16:05.860 --> 01:16:11.860]  to set them up. They've already done enough. We all know there's plenty of grounds for
[01:16:11.860 --> 01:16:18.860]  fraud. We also intend to deceive monetary embezzlement. You can go through all the different
[01:16:18.860 --> 01:16:24.860]  fraud and criminal aspects. They've done it left and right. For some reason, the individuals
[01:16:24.860 --> 01:16:29.860]  that could possibly do some right have been controlled, whether they're mitigated by,
[01:16:29.860 --> 01:16:33.860]  you cheated on your wife, and if you do this and you go the wrong way, we're going to tell
[01:16:33.860 --> 01:16:39.860]  your wife, whatever it is, there's levels of control. We have to execute a level that
[01:16:39.860 --> 01:16:46.860]  will change the mentality of the parties involved or they will self-retire and remove themselves
[01:16:46.860 --> 01:16:52.860]  from office. Absolutely, absolutely agree. We've got to cut you loose there, buddy. We're
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[01:19:34.860 --> 01:19:38.860]  If I can't get everything I want, yeah
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[01:19:58.860 --> 01:20:02.860]  If the people of the world can't get happiness
[01:20:02.860 --> 01:20:06.860]  We are here with our guest Ron Avery, tonight's topic
[01:20:06.860 --> 01:20:10.860]  we'd like to stay on topic as best we can. 9-11
[01:20:10.860 --> 01:20:14.860]  being that yesterday was the 13th anniversary and Patrick
[01:20:14.860 --> 01:20:18.860]  in Texas thank you for calling in. Let's go
[01:20:18.860 --> 01:20:22.860]  now to Robert in Texas. Hello Robert and thank you very much
[01:20:22.860 --> 01:20:26.860]  for staying on so long. Yeah, no problem man. How's it going?
[01:20:26.860 --> 01:20:30.860]  Good, good, good. What's on your mind tonight?
[01:20:30.860 --> 01:20:38.740]  Well, no, I've just been listening for maybe 45 minutes to an hour.
[01:20:38.740 --> 01:20:44.300]  I'd like to go back a little bit first to kind of what one of the callers was talking
[01:20:44.300 --> 01:20:45.300]  about.
[01:20:45.300 --> 01:20:54.060]  We were talking about sovereignty from the Revolutionary War, and then the guy says,
[01:20:54.060 --> 01:20:57.100]  well, I'm sovereign because of God.
[01:20:57.100 --> 01:20:58.340]  And I agree with that.
[01:20:58.340 --> 01:21:04.820]  I think, even though my family fought in the Revolutionary War, I believe in sovereignty
[01:21:04.820 --> 01:21:05.820]  with that.
[01:21:05.820 --> 01:21:06.880]  I'm proud of it.
[01:21:06.880 --> 01:21:09.980]  The guy is Ron Avery.
[01:21:09.980 --> 01:21:10.980]  Ron Avery.
[01:21:10.980 --> 01:21:11.980]  That's fine.
[01:21:11.980 --> 01:21:20.300]  I think, yeah, I feel that if we put our faith in God in that manner, and we put that first,
[01:21:20.300 --> 01:21:24.180]  we have complete faith in it, we're already liberated from all of this anyway.
[01:21:24.180 --> 01:21:30.780]  No matter what they do, no matter how hard they try, they can't take that.
[01:21:30.780 --> 01:21:36.060]  So no matter what, even though we're frustrated and we're angry, we have to be prepared to
[01:21:36.060 --> 01:21:41.940]  follow the teachings of Jesus anyway, to the full extent, the best we can, which includes
[01:21:41.940 --> 01:21:47.460]  forgiveness and patience, all these other things.
[01:21:47.460 --> 01:21:49.620]  You bring up a very good point.
[01:21:49.620 --> 01:21:56.980]  This is something that I have a big, forgiving somebody for something, for causing me a wrong
[01:21:56.980 --> 01:22:04.060]  is one of the most difficult things that I've found to perform.
[01:22:04.060 --> 01:22:07.660]  Though I can forgive, I can't forget.
[01:22:07.660 --> 01:22:14.900]  And since I can't forget, I've got to ask that question, have I fully forgiven?
[01:22:14.900 --> 01:22:22.500]  Now let's bring that into perspective to our controllers, our politicians.
[01:22:22.500 --> 01:22:23.820]  Can we forgive them?
[01:22:23.820 --> 01:22:25.220]  Should we forgive them?
[01:22:25.220 --> 01:22:31.020]  I know the Bible tells us to love thy neighbor, love thy enemy, and so on and so forth.
[01:22:31.020 --> 01:22:41.920]  And yes, the Bible does speak of a peaceful coexistence, and I thirst for a peaceful coexistence,
[01:22:41.920 --> 01:22:45.060]  but at this point, this is when reality kicks in.
[01:22:45.060 --> 01:22:53.020]  A peaceful coexistence is only possible if your neighbor has a conscience.
[01:22:53.020 --> 01:23:02.100]  And I believe the mass majority, I'm going to go out on a limb and say 99.999% of our
[01:23:02.100 --> 01:23:08.980]  political leaders, be them anywhere from a municipal level all the way up to the White
[01:23:08.980 --> 01:23:13.700]  House, are absolutely devoid of conscience.
[01:23:13.700 --> 01:23:17.740]  Now, wait a minute, let me take issue with that.
[01:23:17.740 --> 01:23:18.740]  Okay, good.
[01:23:18.740 --> 01:23:19.740]  I'm glad you did.
[01:23:19.740 --> 01:23:22.100]  I thought you fell asleep back there, Randy.
[01:23:22.100 --> 01:23:29.180]  Now, I'm going to suggest that they are, for the most part, rational human beings.
[01:23:29.180 --> 01:23:30.180]  And they use-
[01:23:30.180 --> 01:23:32.060]  Well, you're giving them a whole lot of benefit for the doubt.
[01:23:32.060 --> 01:23:38.420]  Well, they use their rational minds to do what they do best, is rationalize the way
[01:23:38.420 --> 01:23:41.740]  their behavior.
[01:23:41.740 --> 01:23:49.980]  I suspect that most of the people performing the worst of the wrongs against us have convinced
[01:23:49.980 --> 01:23:54.620]  themselves that they are doing the right thing for the right reasons.
[01:23:54.620 --> 01:23:57.180]  And therein lies the biggest difficulty.
[01:23:57.180 --> 01:24:01.980]  And it goes back to the Bible, judge not that you be not judged.
[01:24:01.980 --> 01:24:04.900]  Okay, if I can't judge this guy.
[01:24:04.900 --> 01:24:13.500]  If I can't cast him into this little box over here that says, he's been adjudicated a chump
[01:24:13.500 --> 01:24:17.060]  and I don't have to deal with that.
[01:24:17.060 --> 01:24:21.380]  If I can't pass that judgment, then I have to look at this different.
[01:24:21.380 --> 01:24:22.380]  What is wrong here?
[01:24:22.380 --> 01:24:27.780]  What is really going on and what can I do to make it different?
[01:24:27.780 --> 01:24:31.660]  And that doesn't mean that I play patty cake with him.
[01:24:31.660 --> 01:24:37.460]  You know, I have grandchildren and I love them dearly.
[01:24:37.460 --> 01:24:47.020]  But if one of them runs out into the road, I'm fixing to tan his hide.
[01:24:47.020 --> 01:24:53.580]  Can I address the sovereignty issue that Robert brought up?
[01:24:53.580 --> 01:25:05.260]  Even though the concept of sovereignty was theologically developed, the way that flows, obviously, is from creator to creator.
[01:25:05.260 --> 01:25:13.620]  God creates mankind and individuals and therefore, he grants them sovereignty over their own
[01:25:13.620 --> 01:25:16.700]  property and themselves.
[01:25:16.700 --> 01:25:29.260]  And then the mankind creates the state to help defend his property and the property
[01:25:29.260 --> 01:25:33.220]  of those that are incapable of doing so.
[01:25:33.220 --> 01:25:41.340]  And this means that the individual is sovereign over the state that they create.
[01:25:41.340 --> 01:25:50.140]  And then the state may create a federation of states like our federal government.
[01:25:50.140 --> 01:25:56.260]  And therefore, the states are sovereign over the federal government.
[01:25:56.260 --> 01:26:05.380]  So when I said that I was sovereign, it meant that in truth, the way that the flow of sovereignty
[01:26:05.380 --> 01:26:14.260]  works is that I'm a sovereign and you can also be a sovereign citizen because the sovereign
[01:26:14.260 --> 01:26:20.660]  creates a state in which he is a citizen of, he is a member of it.
[01:26:20.660 --> 01:26:24.220]  You can call him a citizen or you can call him a member.
[01:26:24.220 --> 01:26:36.060]  So a member of a state can be a sovereign because he, well, he is the sovereign because he created the state.
[01:26:36.060 --> 01:26:51.460]  And so there are certain cases where I might not be a sovereign in the particular cases,
[01:26:51.460 --> 01:26:54.380]  but that's another topic altogether.
[01:26:54.380 --> 01:26:58.980]  Yeah, that's a whole other encyclopedia.
[01:26:58.980 --> 01:27:02.780]  Let me address something on sovereign citizen.
[01:27:02.780 --> 01:27:09.820]  I think the problem we have with sovereign citizen is we kind of shorten it.
[01:27:09.820 --> 01:27:16.060]  I should be able to say, and I don't know if I can, but Ron can trace his lineage back
[01:27:16.060 --> 01:27:22.300]  so he can say he's a sovereign and he's a citizen.
[01:27:22.300 --> 01:27:26.580]  We tend to have left out the and, so we're both.
[01:27:26.580 --> 01:27:30.460]  But if we say it without the and in there, then we're a sovereign citizen and that's
[01:27:30.460 --> 01:27:31.460]  contradiction of terms.
[01:27:31.460 --> 01:27:32.460]  It is.
[01:27:32.460 --> 01:27:33.460]  Well, what is a citizen, then?
[01:27:33.460 --> 01:27:34.460]  Maybe that's the problem.
[01:27:34.460 --> 01:27:43.420]  The way I see it, Ron, is that a sovereign is not a subject as where a citizen is, subject
[01:27:43.420 --> 01:27:52.260]  to the state or subject to some federal entity here keeping it local here in the United States.
[01:27:52.260 --> 01:27:58.940]  I think that's where the quote-unquote sovereign citizen movement kind of fell into trouble
[01:27:58.940 --> 01:28:05.660]  is that they were saying that they were sovereign and a sovereign is capable of creating his
[01:28:05.660 --> 01:28:11.220]  own money, creating his own country, creating his own state, so on and so forth, as where
[01:28:11.220 --> 01:28:13.100]  a citizen is not.
[01:28:13.100 --> 01:28:17.460]  A citizen is subject to the state already created.
[01:28:17.460 --> 01:28:27.660]  I think that's where the danger lies, is not recognizing that, not being unaware of that.
[01:28:27.660 --> 01:28:33.260]  I think there's a trap that's kind of been laid before us and a lot of people have walked
[01:28:33.260 --> 01:28:34.260]  into it.
[01:28:34.260 --> 01:28:40.500]  Well, I think the trap is a mental one, it's a psychological one.
[01:28:40.500 --> 01:28:47.780]  If the person doesn't recognize that they, as a citizen, are sovereign, now, I'm not
[01:28:47.780 --> 01:28:58.020]  a sovereign related to Germany because I didn't create Germany, I'm not a citizen of Germany.
[01:28:58.020 --> 01:29:04.020]  Of course, Germany would have to look at me as a sovereign because I'm not under their
[01:29:04.020 --> 01:29:07.660]  jurisdiction either.
[01:29:07.660 --> 01:29:16.860]  So what I'm driving at is, if you're a member of a particular society of which you are in
[01:29:16.860 --> 01:29:25.260]  a position of the formation of it, your forefathers or you moved there, you're one of the people.
[01:29:25.260 --> 01:29:34.060]  The people that are in a state are the sovereign in it, in the sense that they create the state,
[01:29:34.060 --> 01:29:40.140]  in the sense that they can do anything they want to, as if they lived in a state of nature
[01:29:40.140 --> 01:29:48.140]  without government and they were sovereign over their decision-making, over how they
[01:29:48.140 --> 01:29:53.140]  handled all their property, over how they feel about somebody else and what they're
[01:29:53.140 --> 01:29:54.140]  going to do with somebody else.
[01:29:54.140 --> 01:29:55.980]  Ron, Ron, I've got to pause you right there, buddy.
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[01:33:36.360 --> 01:33:43.380]  Thank you guys so much for being with us for the 120 day brotherhood season.
[01:33:43.380 --> 01:33:48.380]  To regain dignity And rebuild the crown of visibility
[01:33:48.380 --> 01:33:55.380]  And I say Truth in nature must be justice I believe
[01:33:55.380 --> 01:34:01.380]  Truth in nature must be justice
[01:34:01.380 --> 01:34:06.380]  And though it's a daunting task At least I got the decency
[01:34:06.380 --> 01:34:11.380]  I sent them all to just take off the silly mask
[01:34:11.380 --> 01:34:16.380]  Now in the light of day we all will pass And we'll be Jews of ingenuity
[01:34:16.380 --> 01:34:19.380]  The music is the workers of iniquity
[01:34:19.380 --> 01:34:21.380]  The Jews of ingenuity
[01:34:21.380 --> 01:34:23.380]  Welcome back to Rule of Law Radio, folks.
[01:34:23.380 --> 01:34:29.380]  512-646-1984 is the number that you can dial to join us in conversation.
[01:34:29.380 --> 01:34:34.380]  And when we went to break, we were speaking with Robert in Texas.
[01:34:34.380 --> 01:34:37.380]  Robert, you have the floor again, sir.
[01:34:37.380 --> 01:34:45.380]  Yeah, thanks. Where I'm going with that is, and I agree with Ron,
[01:34:45.380 --> 01:34:50.380]  that there's a certain point where we're spiritual,
[01:34:50.380 --> 01:34:54.380]  and there's the fact that God sent Jesus to us,
[01:34:54.380 --> 01:34:58.380]  where he may show us the light, but we are also not Jesus.
[01:34:58.380 --> 01:35:00.380]  We try, we're born sinners.
[01:35:00.380 --> 01:35:03.380]  But beyond all that, I think all of us have reached
[01:35:03.380 --> 01:35:08.380]  kind of a level of maturity and to a point to where we're kind of fed up with things,
[01:35:08.380 --> 01:35:12.380]  and we've seen the light. I've heard conversation about throwing away TVs
[01:35:12.380 --> 01:35:18.380]  and these other things that make you kind of frustrated with things that are going on,
[01:35:18.380 --> 01:35:23.380]  because we see what's happening before our eyes, and we care.
[01:35:23.380 --> 01:35:33.380]  So it's like we want solutions, and it's like, well, what is blinding these people?
[01:35:33.380 --> 01:35:40.380]  I think the first step to solution, the first step to solving any problem
[01:35:40.380 --> 01:35:43.380]  is first realizing that there's a problem.
[01:35:43.380 --> 01:35:47.380]  The second step is realizing who you are.
[01:35:47.380 --> 01:35:54.380]  Let's go back a couple of centuries, or a few centuries, rather, and revisit the art of war.
[01:35:54.380 --> 01:35:55.380]  Sun Tzu.
[01:35:55.380 --> 01:36:04.380]  Sun Tzu taught us that if you know yourself, but know not your enemy,
[01:36:04.380 --> 01:36:07.380]  for every victory you will suffer a defeat.
[01:36:07.380 --> 01:36:13.380]  If you know not yourself nor your enemy, you will never know victory.
[01:36:13.380 --> 01:36:20.380]  But if you know yourself and you know your enemy, you need not fear a thousand battles.
[01:36:20.380 --> 01:36:25.380]  Now, I will take that to the next step.
[01:36:25.380 --> 01:36:29.380]  Knowing yourself comes in two parts.
[01:36:29.380 --> 01:36:32.380]  You can know yourself from your own perspective,
[01:36:32.380 --> 01:36:40.380]  and that's where we usually kind of try to ground ourselves in self-awareness.
[01:36:40.380 --> 01:36:48.380]  But in a battle situation, and let's make no bones about it, folks, we are in a battle situation.
[01:36:48.380 --> 01:36:53.380]  It's come down to a point where the generations alive and on this earth right now,
[01:36:53.380 --> 01:37:00.380]  if we are not the ones to stand up and reclaim our freedom, it will never happen.
[01:37:00.380 --> 01:37:09.380]  So in order to bring that to fruition, we must also know ourselves from the perspective of our enemy,
[01:37:09.380 --> 01:37:13.380]  and our enemy is a federal government and world government.
[01:37:13.380 --> 01:37:20.380]  Right. Well, that too, but we also got to realize that our state government emulates the federal government
[01:37:20.380 --> 01:37:21.380]  because they want to be liked.
[01:37:21.380 --> 01:37:24.380]  Certainly. Certainly. They all get grants.
[01:37:24.380 --> 01:37:28.380]  You know, where do you think the Humvees come from?
[01:37:28.380 --> 01:37:34.380]  Where do you think all this war equipment comes from?
[01:37:34.380 --> 01:37:37.380]  Our police are militarized.
[01:37:37.380 --> 01:37:41.380]  It doesn't come from Wal-Mart, folks.
[01:37:41.380 --> 01:37:43.380]  It comes from the federal government.
[01:37:43.380 --> 01:37:57.380]  What's not being sent overseas and used to enslave other races, other indigenous people, the...
[01:37:57.380 --> 01:37:58.380]  Populations?
[01:37:58.380 --> 01:38:00.380]  Yeah, populations. Thank you.
[01:38:00.380 --> 01:38:06.380]  Didn't want to say citizens, but populations of foreign countries is being used here against us.
[01:38:06.380 --> 01:38:08.380]  Right.
[01:38:08.380 --> 01:38:13.380]  This has got to stop, and it's up to you, and it's up to me, and it's up to all of us to stop it.
[01:38:13.380 --> 01:38:15.380]  It's not going to stop by itself.
[01:38:15.380 --> 01:38:21.380]  If left uncontrolled, it's over. Game over, folks.
[01:38:21.380 --> 01:38:28.380]  But I also think there's some other preventative things that we can do because we're dealing with youth
[01:38:28.380 --> 01:38:30.380]  and future generations.
[01:38:30.380 --> 01:38:36.380]  Like, when I was coming up, I'm 43, you guys sound a little older than me.
[01:38:36.380 --> 01:38:39.380]  Well, we took history class and civics class.
[01:38:39.380 --> 01:38:41.380]  We studied the Constitution.
[01:38:41.380 --> 01:38:46.380]  We went over the Bill of Rights on a weekly basis.
[01:38:46.380 --> 01:38:53.380]  And I asked kids in my neighborhood or kids I coach in ball teams what the Bill of Rights are,
[01:38:53.380 --> 01:38:57.380]  and they have no clue what the Bill of Rights are.
[01:38:57.380 --> 01:38:58.380]  Not a clue.
[01:38:58.380 --> 01:39:00.380]  Yeah.
[01:39:00.380 --> 01:39:09.380]  And I think that's part of the systematic breakdown that the federal government is doing with their education programs,
[01:39:09.380 --> 01:39:12.380]  including prayer, not in school.
[01:39:12.380 --> 01:39:17.380]  But I don't think prayer legally not being allowed in school should inhibit prayer in school anyway,
[01:39:17.380 --> 01:39:19.380]  because really what can they do?
[01:39:19.380 --> 01:39:25.380]  If 1,500 kids in a school simultaneously prayed, what are they really going to do?
[01:39:25.380 --> 01:39:27.380]  Nothing.
[01:39:27.380 --> 01:39:32.380]  I mean, I would tell my kids, go to school, pray.
[01:39:32.380 --> 01:39:35.380]  And they don't care what anybody else says, just do it.
[01:39:35.380 --> 01:39:38.380]  It's okay to do that.
[01:39:38.380 --> 01:39:42.380]  So, as far as I'm concerned, and I'm not particularly religious,
[01:39:42.380 --> 01:39:50.380]  however, when thou doest thine alms, may not like the scribes and Pharisees who pray in the streets and synagogues to have glory of men,
[01:39:50.380 --> 01:39:52.380]  because you know what they say about that.
[01:39:52.380 --> 01:39:58.380]  So if you do it privately, I don't think anyone would have any objection.
[01:39:58.380 --> 01:40:06.380]  But if you do it publicly, now you're stepping right on the restriction.
[01:40:06.380 --> 01:40:16.380]  Yeah, I believe that, in a way, some of the school prayer is used as a distractionary tool to, again, excite the emotions of the people.
[01:40:16.380 --> 01:40:22.380]  We can't make lawful government out of tyranny merely by having prayer in school.
[01:40:22.380 --> 01:40:29.380]  We're going to have to have something more severe than that to get control of the situation.
[01:40:29.380 --> 01:40:38.380]  But since we're on kind of a religious note, I want to say one thing that I do often think of,
[01:40:38.380 --> 01:40:47.380]  and that is when we see our country in this kind of shape, our nation, it automatically makes me think that,
[01:40:47.380 --> 01:41:05.380]  and especially when the churches are resistant to truth and are participating in this crime against humanity of destroying innocent people for things they didn't do.
[01:41:05.380 --> 01:41:10.380]  It shows me that the church has fallen away.
[01:41:10.380 --> 01:41:19.380]  And that was one of the main things that has to occur before the return of Christ, is that the church had to fall away.
[01:41:19.380 --> 01:41:27.380]  And if this isn't a condition of the falling away of Christianity, I really don't know what is,
[01:41:27.380 --> 01:41:36.380]  because I actually believe that premillennialism is a very theological instrument that has released Satan from the pit.
[01:41:36.380 --> 01:41:44.380]  And Satan is having his way with the world in such a fashion that he has not had in a long time.
[01:41:44.380 --> 01:41:56.380]  And so I'm thinking this is also in terms of theology, Christian theology, that it's looking right for the return of Christ once again.
[01:41:56.380 --> 01:42:05.380]  Right. I agree, man. I'm a Christian, but if I take away Christianity and say all believers in God,
[01:42:05.380 --> 01:42:13.380]  because Judaism and Islam all believe in this, and Christianity believe in the same God, if we took all believers, right,
[01:42:13.380 --> 01:42:22.380]  and we came up with a number and said, you know, obviously, in a capitalistic, democratic society, majority rules,
[01:42:22.380 --> 01:42:27.380]  even though we have to make laws to protect the minority, we don't even have to do a count.
[01:42:27.380 --> 01:42:41.380]  We know believers are the majority of this country, without even taking a vote on issues that are related to things of moral standards
[01:42:41.380 --> 01:42:46.380]  or political standards within righteousness.
[01:42:46.380 --> 01:42:53.380]  But yet, for some reason, we're able to take not only a minority, but extreme minorities.
[01:42:53.380 --> 01:43:01.380]  We're talking down, you know, a thousand people may feel a certain way, and we change a complete law through the Supreme Court.
[01:43:01.380 --> 01:43:11.380]  That goes against all of our fundamental practices that we even started this country to seek religious freedom from tyranny to begin with.
[01:43:11.380 --> 01:43:13.380]  Right.
[01:43:13.380 --> 01:43:21.380]  And how does that get pushed through? And all these guys, when they all run for office, they all pray.
[01:43:21.380 --> 01:43:23.380]  They pray during Congress.
[01:43:23.380 --> 01:43:26.380]  Who do they pray to?
[01:43:26.380 --> 01:43:34.380]  Don't get me wrong, everyone has a right to worship the way they want, but it seems to me everybody's at least a believer, you know.
[01:43:34.380 --> 01:43:45.380]  And it just fascinates me how they could push these things through, so it means, you know, money is still the root of all evil and greed.
[01:43:45.380 --> 01:43:48.380]  Hey, I'd like to touch on that when we come back from this break.
[01:43:48.380 --> 01:43:50.380]  Robert, stay tuned. Everybody else, stay tuned.
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[01:46:22.380 --> 01:46:38.380]  Welcome back to Rule of Law Radio, folks, and thank you for tuning in this Friday night, the 12th day of September 2014.
[01:46:38.380 --> 01:46:43.380]  And Robert in Texas, you touched a nerve, buddy, right there on the way out.
[01:46:43.380 --> 01:46:48.380]  Let me come back and revisit The Root of All Evil.
[01:46:48.380 --> 01:46:58.380]  Folks, let me just get this off my chest.
[01:46:58.380 --> 01:47:10.380]  The Bible teaches us that the love of money, not money itself, but the love of money is the root of all evil.
[01:47:10.380 --> 01:47:18.380]  OK, let me let me get this out. I'm going to bring something to your mind that might might surprise you. It might not.
[01:47:18.380 --> 01:47:28.380]  But then again, it might be the love of money. OK, Robert, do you have children?
[01:47:28.380 --> 01:47:35.380]  No. You have no children. OK, let's say that you did just for sake of argument and sake of story.
[01:47:35.380 --> 01:47:41.380]  Let's say that you had children. I'm very open. OK, OK, good.
[01:47:41.380 --> 01:47:46.380]  Then be open to this. Let's say for sake of argument that you had children.
[01:47:46.380 --> 01:47:50.380]  For those of you folks out there who do have children, let me ask you this.
[01:47:50.380 --> 01:47:57.380]  Is it possible for me to love your children the same way you do or as much as you do?
[01:47:57.380 --> 01:48:05.380]  Robert, simply yes or no, it's possible to come close, but no, not totally no.
[01:48:05.380 --> 01:48:12.380]  Thank you. The reason being, I believe, is because I had no hand in their creation.
[01:48:12.380 --> 01:48:21.380]  Now, let's apply that principle to money. Who created what we call money?
[01:48:21.380 --> 01:48:28.380]  We've got to go back to Jekyll Island the year 1910.
[01:48:28.380 --> 01:48:41.380]  Warburgs, Ross Childs, other banking moguls of the day created the Federal Reserve on Jekyll Island.
[01:48:41.380 --> 01:48:45.380]  If you don't believe me, then read. Please don't believe me.
[01:48:45.380 --> 01:48:52.380]  Read the creature from Jekyll Island. Read the Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Eustace Mullins.
[01:48:52.380 --> 01:49:00.380]  You will come to an understanding of who created this Federal Reserve system that has one product
[01:49:00.380 --> 01:49:07.380]  and it mass produces this product and distributes it through every bank on this continent.
[01:49:07.380 --> 01:49:09.380]  It's the Federal Reserve.
[01:49:09.380 --> 01:49:17.380]  Now, who would love money more than the people that chase it, but its creator?
[01:49:17.380 --> 01:49:24.380]  If you want to put names and faces on the root of all evil, cuibono.
[01:49:24.380 --> 01:49:26.380]  Who benefits? Follow the money.
[01:49:26.380 --> 01:49:30.380]  Follow the money back to its creation. Its creators.
[01:49:30.380 --> 01:49:35.380]  You're right. It's not the money itself, but the things that money gets you.
[01:49:35.380 --> 01:49:39.380]  And one of those things is power, right? Absolutely.
[01:49:39.380 --> 01:49:44.380]  Because money is power. Knowledge is also power.
[01:49:44.380 --> 01:49:48.380]  But for knowledge to be powerful, you must do two things.
[01:49:48.380 --> 01:49:59.380]  First, possess it. Second, know how to use it.
[01:49:59.380 --> 01:50:02.380]  Randy, I heard you piping in. What you got?
[01:50:02.380 --> 01:50:07.380]  No, I was going to bring in a quote about knowledge being power from James Madison,
[01:50:07.380 --> 01:50:13.380]  but I lost where I wrote it down.
[01:50:13.380 --> 01:50:16.380]  Anyway, I'll let you keep going. I agree.
[01:50:16.380 --> 01:50:22.380]  The one thing I would want to say about that is it all goes back to the money changers.
[01:50:22.380 --> 01:50:24.380]  Absolutely.
[01:50:24.380 --> 01:50:29.380]  And who's ready to kick over the tables of the money changers?
[01:50:29.380 --> 01:50:34.380]  They didn't crucify Jesus for going around and preaching a different doctrine.
[01:50:34.380 --> 01:50:36.380]  No.
[01:50:36.380 --> 01:50:39.380]  No, they said, okay, you know, we got all these people preaching these different stuff.
[01:50:39.380 --> 01:50:44.380]  They let him run around the countryside, Mach 5, with his hair on fire for years.
[01:50:44.380 --> 01:50:50.380]  And it wasn't until he kicked over the tables of the money changers that he got in trouble.
[01:50:50.380 --> 01:50:52.380]  Correct.
[01:50:52.380 --> 01:50:58.380]  Our government and those in power will try to push all sorts of evils in front of us.
[01:50:58.380 --> 01:51:06.380]  So as to distract us and get us chasing after things over which they have no concern.
[01:51:06.380 --> 01:51:11.380]  The last thing they want us to do is look back at the money changers.
[01:51:11.380 --> 01:51:18.380]  Let me put this on the table. When Christ was crucified, the bankers of the day were given a choice.
[01:51:18.380 --> 01:51:24.380]  Barabbas or Yeshua. They chose Barabbas. Why?
[01:51:24.380 --> 01:51:36.380]  Barabbas was a drunkard. He was a rapist. He was a thief. He was just the epitome of a social degenerate.
[01:51:36.380 --> 01:51:40.380]  But they said, give us Barabbas. Why?
[01:51:40.380 --> 01:51:46.380]  Well, Barabbas may have been a threat to society, but he was not a threat to the banking system of the day.
[01:51:46.380 --> 01:51:51.380]  As were Yeshua, was a direct threat.
[01:51:51.380 --> 01:51:54.380]  Naturally, give us Barabbas.
[01:51:54.380 --> 01:51:57.380]  Society be damned.
[01:51:57.380 --> 01:52:02.380]  If society wants Barabbas gone, society will take care of Barabbas.
[01:52:02.380 --> 01:52:08.380]  But right now Pontius Pilate, you've got to deal with Yeshua.
[01:52:08.380 --> 01:52:12.380]  Because he is a direct threat to our scheme.
[01:52:12.380 --> 01:52:18.380]  And things have not changed in over two thousand years.
[01:52:18.380 --> 01:52:26.380]  And that's true. A lot of that was prophesied too.
[01:52:26.380 --> 01:52:32.380]  Barabbas was a military leader rebel, kind of like the IRA to England at the time, with the Romans.
[01:52:32.380 --> 01:52:39.380]  They wanted someone with the warrior mentality to give them some sort of respect and pride.
[01:52:39.380 --> 01:52:43.380]  And Jesus taught, forget, forget, turn the other cheek.
[01:52:43.380 --> 01:52:51.380]  He talked about all these peaceful ways of handling your soul.
[01:52:51.380 --> 01:52:57.380]  And it's kind of like someone was talking earlier about the bug's life.
[01:52:57.380 --> 01:53:02.380]  And it kind of reminds me of Watership Down a little bit.
[01:53:02.380 --> 01:53:04.380]  The book Watership Down.
[01:53:04.380 --> 01:53:16.380]  And also kind of reminds me of the story of Joseph, Jacob's son, that got sold to slavery in Egypt and rose to the top of Egypt.
[01:53:16.380 --> 01:53:18.380]  And then his family came and he forgave them.
[01:53:18.380 --> 01:53:22.380]  And then they took over the land of Goshen and stayed there until the time of Moses.
[01:53:22.380 --> 01:53:26.380]  And then had to leave the promised land.
[01:53:26.380 --> 01:53:31.380]  And the reason that they were turned into slaves is because it became too many.
[01:53:31.380 --> 01:53:35.380]  Somebody touched on earlier about us outnumbering people.
[01:53:35.380 --> 01:53:39.380]  Well, we get to the point to where we outnumber them and we gain too much power.
[01:53:39.380 --> 01:53:43.380]  They're going to want to turn the sword on us and enslave us, right?
[01:53:43.380 --> 01:53:49.380]  Because they like their power, they like their money, right?
[01:53:49.380 --> 01:53:54.380]  So what are we going to do to prevent that from happening?
[01:53:54.380 --> 01:53:56.380]  What am I going to do?
[01:53:56.380 --> 01:54:00.380]  Well, I think me personally, I have to start with myself and my own household, I think.
[01:54:00.380 --> 01:54:04.380]  And then I think it has to be built up in my own neighborhood as far as...
[01:54:04.380 --> 01:54:10.380]  Okay, well, that sounds nice, but that was kind of a non-answer.
[01:54:10.380 --> 01:54:15.380]  What would you be willing to do to make things different?
[01:54:15.380 --> 01:54:18.380]  Like, what would I be willing to do?
[01:54:18.380 --> 01:54:21.380]  I don't know what you mean by willing to do.
[01:54:21.380 --> 01:54:22.380]  Like, I don't know.
[01:54:22.380 --> 01:54:27.380]  I think, you know, I'm more of a pen is my ear than a sword type guy.
[01:54:27.380 --> 01:54:30.380]  And I'm a Christian, I'm a turn the other cheek guy.
[01:54:30.380 --> 01:54:32.380]  And I'm a thinker.
[01:54:32.380 --> 01:54:37.380]  So I think there's many ways to fight a disease, even within medicine.
[01:54:37.380 --> 01:54:46.380]  And I think there are a lot of ways through innovation to overpower this system.
[01:54:46.380 --> 01:54:49.380]  Okay, okay, hold on. I'm making a point here.
[01:54:49.380 --> 01:54:53.380]  I'm a combat veteran and I know how to fight.
[01:54:53.380 --> 01:54:59.380]  And one thing you learn when you're in real fights, where they're shooting real bullets,
[01:54:59.380 --> 01:55:02.380]  pick your fights really, really careful.
[01:55:02.380 --> 01:55:05.380]  Don't get into a fight just because you can.
[01:55:05.380 --> 01:55:12.380]  And don't get into a fight that even if you win it, you won't gain anything.
[01:55:12.380 --> 01:55:15.380]  Always have an exit strategy.
[01:55:15.380 --> 01:55:21.380]  Sit back, think about what you're doing, make a plan, follow the plan.
[01:55:21.380 --> 01:55:30.380]  What can you and I as individuals do to change what's happening?
[01:55:30.380 --> 01:55:32.380]  And what could you do?
[01:55:32.380 --> 01:55:40.380]  Like we've said several times on the show today, we're not asking anybody to lay down in front of a freight train.
[01:55:40.380 --> 01:55:53.380]  But what could we do to lay little speed bumps in front of the onrush?
[01:55:53.380 --> 01:55:56.380]  That's what this show is really all about.
[01:55:56.380 --> 01:56:01.380]  I think innovation in the long run will do it.
[01:56:01.380 --> 01:56:04.380]  If you got a speeding ticket, do you fight the speeding ticket?
[01:56:04.380 --> 01:56:05.380]  Or is it just easier to pay?
[01:56:05.380 --> 01:56:10.380]  Oh yeah, I always fight it if I'm honest, but I'm not going to lie.
[01:56:10.380 --> 01:56:12.380]  If I'm really speeding, I'm going to pay it.
[01:56:12.380 --> 01:56:17.380]  But if I'm not and I kind of get lumped in, I'm going to fight it.
[01:56:17.380 --> 01:56:21.380]  Fight it even if you were speeding.
[01:56:21.380 --> 01:56:22.380]  Fight it.
[01:56:22.380 --> 01:56:25.380]  Always make them work for it.
[01:56:25.380 --> 01:56:29.380]  And don't fight it to win the case.
[01:56:29.380 --> 01:56:34.380]  Fight it to ensure that they follow the code.
[01:56:34.380 --> 01:56:46.380]  We got in this position because our public officials made minor adjustments toward administrative convenience and adjudicative expediency.
[01:56:46.380 --> 01:56:53.380]  And the first time they made one of those adjustments, we didn't stand up and rail in righteous indignation.
[01:56:53.380 --> 01:56:57.380]  We said, oh, well, that's not a big deal.
[01:56:57.380 --> 01:57:05.380]  And after some 30, 40 years now, we look around and we don't recognize the system that we're under.
[01:57:05.380 --> 01:57:10.380]  We can't go back and rail at these guys for doing these horrible things.
[01:57:10.380 --> 01:57:12.380]  They didn't create this mess.
[01:57:12.380 --> 01:57:14.380]  You did.
[01:57:14.380 --> 01:57:20.380]  And I did for sitting on our behinds and not raising an issue over the minor things.
[01:57:20.380 --> 01:57:22.380]  Acquiescence is acceptance.
[01:57:22.380 --> 01:57:24.380]  Exactly.
[01:57:24.380 --> 01:57:26.380]  The way we're going to fix it.
[01:57:26.380 --> 01:57:29.380]  Speaking of fixing it, what causes it?
[01:57:29.380 --> 01:57:30.380]  Wait a minute.
[01:57:30.380 --> 01:57:34.380]  I've been listening to some of this now.
[01:57:34.380 --> 01:57:38.380]  Acquiescence is not exactly acceptance.
[01:57:38.380 --> 01:57:55.380]  No one can force an unlawful law or unlawful provision on you because you didn't stand up and try to resist it at the time.
[01:57:55.380 --> 01:57:59.380]  You either have a legitimate law or you don't.
[01:57:59.380 --> 01:58:07.380]  And a lot of our problems in America have to do with illegitimate and unlawful laws.
[01:58:07.380 --> 01:58:14.380]  And it violates the principles of the Constitution and the principles of property.
[01:58:14.380 --> 01:58:20.380]  And just because I haven't gone to war with these guys every instant.
[01:58:20.380 --> 01:58:22.380]  Thirty seconds, Ron.
[01:58:22.380 --> 01:58:30.380]  That doesn't mean that it's also now legal that I'm under that stuff.
[01:58:30.380 --> 01:58:37.380]  I agree with you and we need more time to shake this one out because I absolutely agree with you.
[01:58:37.380 --> 01:58:39.380]  But we fight what we can.
[01:58:39.380 --> 01:58:41.380]  I'm sorry we are out of time.
[01:58:41.380 --> 01:58:47.380]  Randy Kelton and Steve Skidmore with their thanks to Mr. Avery.
[01:58:47.380 --> 01:58:49.380]  Enjoyed being on.
[01:58:49.380 --> 01:58:52.380]  Thank you.
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