[00:08.600 --> 00:13.960]  I'm Bryan Hagen with your Liberty Beat for Monday, August 18th, 2014.
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[00:35.000 --> 00:39.940]  In the news, violence erupted once more Sunday night in Ferguson, Missouri, as police accused
[00:39.940 --> 00:44.520]  protesters of firing shots and throwing Molotov cocktails at officers.
[00:44.520 --> 00:48.520]  The community has been the site of protests and clashes between police and community members
[00:48.520 --> 00:52.160]  since the August 9th shooting of 18-year-old Michael Brown.
[00:52.160 --> 00:56.320]  In the early morning hours of Monday, Missouri State Highway Patrol Captain Ronald Johnson
[00:56.320 --> 01:01.040]  held a press conference detailing what led officers to fire tear gas canisters before
[01:01.040 --> 01:02.920]  the midnight curfew began.
[01:02.920 --> 01:06.360]  Johnson said there was an unrelated shooting around 8.30 p.m.
[01:06.360 --> 01:10.800]  Shortly after the shooting, looting was reported at a local McDonald's to send Domino's Pizza.
[01:10.800 --> 01:14.360]  Captain Johnson stated that a large group of protesters began making their way to a
[01:14.360 --> 01:16.800]  police command center before the curfew.
[01:16.800 --> 01:23.360]  Molotov cocktails are reportedly thrown at officers, as well as gunshots.
[01:23.360 --> 01:25.180]  Are you struggling with chronic disease?
[01:25.180 --> 01:29.440]  Are you witnessing behavior or learning disabilities in your children or grandchildren?
[01:29.440 --> 01:31.680]  Or are you simply not feeling as good as you would like?
[01:31.680 --> 01:33.460]  Well, maybe it's what you're eating.
[01:33.460 --> 01:38.680]  The Medina Farm is hosting an event to overview the nutrition research of Dr. Weston A. Price
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[01:41.520 --> 01:46.280]  You'll learn about nutrient-dense diets, what foods to avoid for the best health, and which
[01:46.280 --> 01:48.220]  nutrients are essential.
[01:48.220 --> 01:53.280]  The event will be held Sunday, August 24th, from 3 until 5 p.m. at the Medina Farm in
[01:53.280 --> 01:55.040]  Wharton, Texas.
[01:55.040 --> 02:00.540]  More information is available at thelibertybeat.com.
[02:00.540 --> 02:04.480]  On Wednesday, there will be a free magic show at Highland Mall and Airport Boulevard in
[02:04.480 --> 02:05.480]  Austin, Texas.
[02:05.480 --> 02:09.960]  There will be an unschooling and homeschooling meetup at the event, running from 2 until
[02:09.960 --> 02:11.680]  3 that afternoon.
[02:11.680 --> 02:17.160]  That is 6001 Airport Boulevard, Austin, Texas, where the event will happen.
[02:17.160 --> 02:21.400]  There will be free events all week put on by the fantastic Magic Camp performers.
[02:21.400 --> 02:23.760]  Learn more at magiccamp.com.
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[02:38.360 --> 02:40.880]  And support comes from the notorious activist Michael Cargill.
[02:40.880 --> 02:45.480]  He has a new show called Come and Talk It, live each Sunday afternoon at 4 o'clock on
[02:45.480 --> 02:47.960]  1370 a.m. in Austin.
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[02:51.520 --> 02:55.480]  This is the Liberty Beat for Monday, August 18th, 2014.
[03:21.520 --> 03:30.800]  been abused, somebody blew up a building, somebody stole their car, somebody got away,
[03:30.800 --> 03:39.280]  somebody didn't get too far, yeah, they didn't get too far.
[03:39.280 --> 03:46.040]  Grant Paffey told my Paffey back in my days, son, a man had to answer for the wicked that
[03:46.040 --> 03:47.040]  he done.
[03:47.040 --> 03:53.400]  Take all the rope in Texas, find a tall old tree, round up all of them bad boys, hang
[03:53.400 --> 04:03.320]  up high in the street, where all the people can see, that justice is the one thing you
[04:03.320 --> 04:09.600]  should always find, you gotta saddle up your boys, you gotta draw a hard line, when the
[04:09.600 --> 04:17.600]  gun smoke settles, we'll sing a victory tune, and we'll all be back at the local saloon.
[04:17.600 --> 04:28.040]  We'll raise up our glasses against evil forces singing, whiskey for my men, beer for my horses.
[04:28.040 --> 04:37.160]  All right, folks, good evening, this is the Monday Night Rule of Law Radio Show, it is
[04:37.160 --> 04:41.880]  August 18th, 2014, and I am your host, Eddie Craig.
[04:41.880 --> 04:49.360]  All right, it was an interesting day today, I haven't had sleep since yesterday, and I
[04:49.360 --> 04:53.340]  helped a friend out with an issue that he was having today, and had to deal with some
[04:53.340 --> 05:00.120]  police officers, and so on and so forth, it was an interesting kind of morning and afternoon.
[05:00.120 --> 05:05.240]  But let's just say nothing detrimental occurred, as far as anybody going to jail, or anything
[05:05.240 --> 05:10.520]  like that, though there are some issues that will have to be continued with at some point.
[05:10.520 --> 05:14.520]  Right now everybody's home and at least getting to do something they want to do instead of
[05:14.520 --> 05:17.480]  warding off somebody in a jail cell somewhere.
[05:17.480 --> 05:22.100]  But that being said, I am hoping that the calls that we take tonight are good news,
[05:22.100 --> 05:28.200]  or at least good questions dealing with issues that will lead to good news for everybody.
[05:28.200 --> 05:36.660]  Now folks, there are a lot of things going on in the communities today about what's going
[05:36.660 --> 05:37.780]  on in government.
[05:37.780 --> 05:43.920]  Everybody is up in arms about this, that, or the other, but no one still, even at this
[05:43.920 --> 05:50.180]  point, no one is focused on solving the problems at their source.
[05:50.180 --> 05:58.500]  Everybody still wants to tackle the individual issues, and I am hoping that eventually people
[05:58.500 --> 06:05.820]  will come to understand that that will not solve the problem any better than so-called
[06:05.820 --> 06:10.640]  modern medicine can cure a disease by treating the symptoms.
[06:10.640 --> 06:16.360]  If you don't go to the root cause of the problem, you're not solving it.
[06:16.360 --> 06:21.180]  If anything, you are prolonging it.
[06:21.180 --> 06:29.100]  And I am here to tell you there are two major focal points to those issues.
[06:29.100 --> 06:33.680]  One is the fact that those issues are framed by lawyers.
[06:33.680 --> 06:39.220]  The second is the fact that those lawyers are illegally taking over every department
[06:39.220 --> 06:44.200]  of government in every state of the union and writing the laws in such a way that they
[06:44.200 --> 06:50.860]  are the only ones that have any ability whatsoever to navigate them, or at least that's what
[06:50.860 --> 06:56.480]  they want us to believe, and for the most part, they are correct because not everybody
[06:56.480 --> 07:02.100]  is willing or able to take the time and effort to dedicate themselves to learning the sleight
[07:02.100 --> 07:08.480]  of hand, the legal mumbo jumbo, the tricks of the trade, and the outright corrupt nature
[07:08.480 --> 07:12.160]  of the system as it exists.
[07:12.160 --> 07:18.320]  We have a separation of powers clause for a reason, folks.
[07:18.320 --> 07:25.520]  That reason was entirely to prevent the kind of things that we're dealing with right now.
[07:25.520 --> 07:29.920]  We want to solve these problems, we have to start with our legislators.
[07:29.920 --> 07:36.100]  And we don't give them options, we don't ask their opinion, we don't say if you would only,
[07:36.100 --> 07:39.000]  we demand it.
[07:39.000 --> 07:44.560]  And we demand it while we stand in front of their desk with a railroad tie, a bucket of
[07:44.560 --> 07:50.000]  tar and a bag of feathers if we have to.
[07:50.000 --> 07:52.300]  But we demand it.
[07:52.300 --> 07:54.340]  We don't ask anymore.
[07:54.340 --> 07:56.840]  We can't ask anymore.
[07:56.840 --> 08:00.660]  Asking has got us nowhere.
[08:00.660 --> 08:09.400]  You cannot ask the guy with the gun not to rob you when you pull money out of the ATM.
[08:09.400 --> 08:13.720]  You can't keep the guy with the gun from treating you like an ATM.
[08:13.720 --> 08:17.620]  You can't keep the guy with the gun from coming to your house and demanding that you owe him
[08:17.620 --> 08:23.240]  money because you didn't wear a certain colored tie that day, or didn't strap yourself into
[08:23.240 --> 08:28.040]  your moving road vehicle that day, or any other number of things that they're using
[08:28.040 --> 08:32.680]  to steal us blind.
[08:32.680 --> 08:35.380]  The cops are not the source of the problem.
[08:35.380 --> 08:38.400]  They're one of the symptoms.
[08:38.400 --> 08:41.680]  The people that suffer at the hands of the cops are not the problem.
[08:41.680 --> 08:46.200]  Well, in a way they are because they're not taking the initiative to go after the source
[08:46.200 --> 08:50.380]  any more than anyone else is.
[08:50.380 --> 08:58.560]  But until we do that, expecting anything to change is utter lunacy.
[08:58.560 --> 09:02.200]  It's just not going to happen.
[09:02.200 --> 09:05.640]  So when is enough going to be enough?
[09:05.640 --> 09:11.960]  When do the rights that you rightfully possess that are inherent in you from our Creator,
[09:11.960 --> 09:16.280]  when do they become important enough for you to stand up and go, you know what?
[09:16.280 --> 09:17.280]  This is it.
[09:17.280 --> 09:18.280]  I'm done.
[09:18.280 --> 09:25.600]  I will not let you do this to me or anyone else any more.
[09:25.600 --> 09:32.600]  That last straw came from me way back in 2008 when it came to the state and their tax collection
[09:32.600 --> 09:35.360]  agencies for sales tax and things like that.
[09:35.360 --> 09:40.940]  And I learned a lot about it on the federal government side since way back in 1995.
[09:40.940 --> 09:46.120]  And I've been doing this at least since then as far as studying, reading, learning, challenging,
[09:46.120 --> 09:53.560]  getting answers, getting no answers and finding out how truly corrupt this system is, how
[09:53.560 --> 10:00.840]  truly ignorant most people are of what they've lost because they never had it.
[10:00.840 --> 10:05.840]  They didn't have it because they didn't grow up in a time when they, when it was allowed.
[10:05.840 --> 10:14.120]  Now their folks is a word that should never be used in relation to the people in a free
[10:14.120 --> 10:19.720]  country allowed.
[10:19.720 --> 10:31.920]  And yet the only way you do anything in America these days is because you're allowed to.
[10:31.920 --> 10:34.520]  What's wrong with this picture?
[10:34.520 --> 10:39.920]  Why are we so apathetic that we are so pathetic?
[10:39.920 --> 10:43.200]  This is ridiculous.
[10:43.200 --> 10:52.140]  No one in America should be having to teach their kids why they must never approach a
[10:52.140 --> 10:54.400]  police officer.
[10:54.400 --> 10:56.900]  Used to that was what you trained a kid to do.
[10:56.900 --> 11:03.540]  If something's wrong, if you have a problem, if you see something bad, find a police officer.
[11:03.540 --> 11:08.000]  Nowadays if a kid went looking for a police officer because he saw somebody getting mugged
[11:08.000 --> 11:12.600]  or robbed, the officer would throw the kid to the ground and write him a jaywalking ticket
[11:12.600 --> 11:16.960]  because he ran across the street waving his arms saying, help, help.
[11:16.960 --> 11:21.200]  That is how ridiculous we've let things get.
[11:21.200 --> 11:24.900]  The cops don't care about preventing crime or solving crime.
[11:24.900 --> 11:28.100]  They care about their jobs and their pensions.
[11:28.100 --> 11:36.840]  And they can only do that by running over you at the behest of those that control them.
[11:36.840 --> 11:41.000]  And here's the downside to this that really, really is going to make this bad.
[11:41.000 --> 11:46.960]  If we ever do decide to have to force a change, here's what we've done to really set ourselves
[11:46.960 --> 11:49.760]  up for a major problem.
[11:49.760 --> 11:54.960]  We have allowed the very thing the state and federal constitutions absolutely forbid.
[11:54.960 --> 11:59.960]  We have allowed every municipality, every county and every state to establish a standing
[11:59.960 --> 12:04.720]  army called law enforcement.
[12:04.720 --> 12:06.800]  They're now becoming militarized.
[12:06.800 --> 12:13.240]  They have military equipment, military arms, and most of them love the idea of getting
[12:13.240 --> 12:16.360]  to use it.
[12:16.360 --> 12:17.500]  They just love it.
[12:17.500 --> 12:24.560]  They look forward to the day they get to draw a bead on somebody and pull the trigger.
[12:24.560 --> 12:29.680]  And all the good ones that would say no, at least to that degree, and I use good very
[12:29.680 --> 12:38.400]  loosely here, keep that in mind, are leaving because they can't survive in that environment.
[12:38.400 --> 12:41.520]  So what are we going to do?
[12:41.520 --> 12:42.520]  We can whine.
[12:42.520 --> 12:43.520]  We can moan.
[12:43.520 --> 12:44.520]  We can complain.
[12:44.520 --> 12:47.960]  We can do all these things that don't accomplish anything.
[12:47.960 --> 12:50.720]  Never have, never will.
[12:50.720 --> 12:55.560]  That thing about the squeaky wheel gets the grease, well, you misunderstand that little
[12:55.560 --> 12:56.600]  saying.
[12:56.600 --> 13:00.560]  The squeaky wheel may be the one complaining, but they get greased with money to shut the
[13:00.560 --> 13:05.160]  heck up and go away, and they do.
[13:05.160 --> 13:10.160]  Nowhere is there an adage that says the squeaky wheel eventually brings people in to solve
[13:10.160 --> 13:13.160]  the problem.
[13:13.160 --> 13:16.820]  That's never happened.
[13:16.820 --> 13:19.440]  Government does not solve problems.
[13:19.440 --> 13:21.860]  It creates them.
[13:21.860 --> 13:26.320]  It makes them worse.
[13:26.320 --> 13:30.200]  It has never done anything else.
[13:30.200 --> 13:32.200]  Go back and study history.
[13:32.200 --> 13:33.740]  Wars are not started by people.
[13:33.740 --> 13:35.460]  They're not started by individuals.
[13:35.460 --> 13:40.560]  They're started by governments that are peopled with individuals that think they have the
[13:40.560 --> 13:47.800]  right to throw away the life and the property of everyone around them for their own goals.
[13:47.800 --> 13:55.240]  Cheney and Halliburton, Bush and all of his little oil, failed oilfield endeavors, their
[13:55.240 --> 14:01.160]  great grandfather who sold to both sides during the war, the Nazis and the US, he armed and
[14:01.160 --> 14:04.720]  moneyed both sides.
[14:04.720 --> 14:06.840]  What did he care who died?
[14:06.840 --> 14:08.440]  How many?
[14:08.440 --> 14:09.440]  How old?
[14:09.440 --> 14:10.440]  How young?
[14:10.440 --> 14:11.440]  What sex?
[14:11.440 --> 14:12.440]  What manner?
[14:12.440 --> 14:13.440]  Didn't care.
[14:13.440 --> 14:17.120]  He was getting wealthy off of the backs of those that would go to war and fight for an
[14:17.120 --> 14:22.520]  ideal that didn't really exist.
[14:22.520 --> 14:27.320]  And while I am a patriot in the sense that I believe in fighting for the rights of myself
[14:27.320 --> 14:31.520]  and my fellow man, I am no longer a patriot for a country.
[14:31.520 --> 14:39.760]  I am no longer and never again will be a patriot for a flag, never, because those are the things
[14:39.760 --> 14:48.400]  that are used to subvert humanity into doing things we ought not be doing to each other.
[14:48.400 --> 14:53.280]  They are what gets waved in front of us like a bone in front of a dog, like a carrot in
[14:53.280 --> 14:57.780]  front of a mule, to get the work out of us that they want.
[14:57.780 --> 15:01.360]  But that work is not for our benefit, it's for theirs.
[15:01.360 --> 15:08.400]  When are we going to wake up and understand that?
[15:08.400 --> 15:23.040]  Folks, I can't begin to explain how disheartened I am with the way Americans view things.
[15:23.040 --> 15:30.880]  We're developing into the most illiterate nation, the most apathetic nation, the most
[15:30.880 --> 15:35.280]  ill-informed nation of any on the planet.
[15:35.280 --> 15:43.080]  We've got a Department of Education whose sole emphasis is on destroying education.
[15:43.080 --> 15:47.960]  We've got a federal government whose sole emphasis is to destroy the very instrument
[15:47.960 --> 15:51.200]  that limits what it can do.
[15:51.200 --> 15:55.720]  We've got state governments doing exactly the same thing with the state instruments
[15:55.720 --> 16:00.600]  that say what they can and can't do.
[16:00.600 --> 16:06.080]  So when are the people going to stand up and say what we can and will do?
[16:06.080 --> 16:09.540]  And we are stopping this.
[16:09.540 --> 16:13.520]  Government has now gotten to the point where it believes that it has an inherent right
[16:13.520 --> 16:19.280]  to exist and do as it pleases.
[16:19.280 --> 16:21.420]  Do you not understand that?
[16:21.420 --> 16:24.140]  Do you not see that?
[16:24.140 --> 16:29.740]  The moment government says we have the right to, they are putting themselves on par with
[16:29.740 --> 16:38.040]  and often above the people themselves in what it does because they don't have rights.
[16:38.040 --> 16:43.240]  They only have delegated authority that we gave them and it's time we started taking
[16:43.240 --> 16:44.240]  it away.
[16:44.240 --> 16:50.120]  All right, folks, this is Rule of Law Radio calling number 512-646-1984.
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[19:13.800 --> 19:31.440]  Alright folks, we are back, this is Rule of Law Radio, Monday night show, I'm your host
[19:31.440 --> 19:32.440]  Eddie Craig.
[19:32.440 --> 19:37.600]  Call in number is 512-646-1984.
[19:37.600 --> 19:40.960]  We're gonna start taking some callers, I've only got three up on the board right now.
[19:40.960 --> 19:45.600]  I am gonna need some more cause we got an hour and 45 minutes to fill.
[19:45.600 --> 19:49.440]  We're gonna start with Adam in California, Adam what can we do for you?
[19:49.440 --> 19:51.960]  Hey, how are you doing today?
[19:51.960 --> 19:52.960]  I'm doing good.
[19:52.960 --> 19:54.440]  You're not on a speakerphone are you?
[19:54.440 --> 19:56.880]  No, I'm on a headset.
[19:56.880 --> 19:59.920]  Uh, okay, it's kinda echoing behind you.
[19:59.920 --> 20:09.880]  Okay, you know what, I think I'll head outside, maybe, is this any better?
[20:09.880 --> 20:12.600]  Not really, you still got a matted echo behind you.
[20:12.600 --> 20:14.600]  Okay, how about now?
[20:14.600 --> 20:15.600]  That's better.
[20:15.600 --> 20:23.200]  Okay, okay, so I'm an attorney and I really like your show and I'm representing a driver
[20:23.200 --> 20:25.200]  and apparently he had called in a couple times.
[20:25.200 --> 20:29.520]  Now wait, wait, wait, you're representing a driver or someone accused of driving because
[20:29.520 --> 20:32.400]  they're very different things?
[20:32.400 --> 20:40.160]  I'm representing a guy who was driving a car and he was accused of breaking a law.
[20:40.160 --> 20:46.560]  Okay, you do understand that driving is relative to commercial use of the car, right?
[20:46.560 --> 20:49.760]  Yeah, he did go into that a little bit.
[20:49.760 --> 20:54.160]  He was not, while he was driving, he was not employed by a company, he was driving for
[20:54.160 --> 20:55.880]  leisure at the time he was driving.
[20:55.880 --> 20:59.640]  Okay, that's travel, that's not drive, that's what I'm trying to get you to understand.
[20:59.640 --> 21:04.880]  The semantics of the statutes, when you use the terminology relevant to the statute in
[21:04.880 --> 21:07.800]  court, they're assuming the legal meaning, not the common meaning.
[21:07.800 --> 21:09.360]  You ought to know that part.
[21:09.360 --> 21:14.160]  So when you say driving, you are implicating the statutes that govern the definition of
[21:14.160 --> 21:15.640]  that term.
[21:15.640 --> 21:21.200]  So just my opinion here, I would recommend avoiding that and say that my client was traveling,
[21:21.200 --> 21:22.400]  not driving.
[21:22.400 --> 21:23.400]  Just an FYI.
[21:23.400 --> 21:25.520]  But anyway, what's your question?
[21:25.520 --> 21:31.120]  Okay, well fair enough, I don't think that whether he was driving or traveling would
[21:31.120 --> 21:35.600]  impact the outcome of his case, but first of all I'll use traveling.
[21:35.600 --> 21:36.600]  I'll use traveling.
[21:36.600 --> 21:37.600]  Okay.
[21:37.600 --> 21:39.000]  So I have a couple of questions.
[21:39.000 --> 21:44.120]  The first question is, I believe you mentioned you might have been familiar with a woman
[21:44.120 --> 21:49.080]  in Florida that was arrested for not rolling her window down all the way.
[21:49.080 --> 21:53.800]  Yes, actually I've seen them do that to several people that there's videos on YouTube of.
[21:53.800 --> 21:58.000]  They've even broke the window out of one car on a young lady and yanked her out.
[21:58.000 --> 22:03.640]  Yeah, I think in that video the officer kind of put his hand on the window and she rolled
[22:03.640 --> 22:07.560]  it up on his fingers and then the window busted.
[22:07.560 --> 22:09.640]  She was rolling it up, but she didn't actually close it.
[22:09.640 --> 22:14.400]  It was about two inches from being closed when he yanked it and busted it.
[22:14.400 --> 22:16.400]  But anyway, please go ahead with your questions.
[22:16.400 --> 22:21.400]  Yeah, the question is, do you know what the outcome of that case was in court?
[22:21.400 --> 22:28.840]  No, I do not, because I don't recall specific names of the individuals that are in the video.
[22:28.840 --> 22:33.360]  You are talking about the young black woman that was pulled out of the car by the officer,
[22:33.360 --> 22:37.780]  the specific one with the broken window, or are you talking about the one in Florida specifically?
[22:37.780 --> 22:40.480]  I thought the one with the broken window was the one in Florida.
[22:40.480 --> 22:41.480]  The woman in Florida.
[22:41.480 --> 22:45.320]  Well, it's possible, but what I'm getting at is Florida seems to be one of the worst
[22:45.320 --> 22:49.420]  places for the officer aggression against an individual that asserts their rights.
[22:49.420 --> 22:53.280]  So when I say Florida, I've actually looked at dozens upon dozens, so I'm trying to make
[22:53.280 --> 22:55.240]  sure of the correct one.
[22:55.240 --> 23:00.160]  Yeah, it's definitely in Florida and it was definitely a young black woman and they definitely
[23:00.160 --> 23:02.060]  did break the window.
[23:02.060 --> 23:05.960]  I do not know the outcome, okay?
[23:05.960 --> 23:09.400]  Is that similar to the situation in your client's case?
[23:09.400 --> 23:10.400]  A little bit.
[23:10.400 --> 23:18.040]  The difference is the officer, in my client's case, he was mitten up, they lit him up, pull
[23:18.040 --> 23:19.040]  over.
[23:19.040 --> 23:23.360]  He used to roll his window down all the way, started off the same way with the one in Florida.
[23:23.360 --> 23:31.240]  The only difference is, to my client's benefit, is they never asked him for driver's license
[23:31.240 --> 23:34.400]  registration or insurance, they never got into it.
[23:34.400 --> 23:40.040]  The entire traffic stop, from the time that he was lit up, almost up until the time he
[23:40.040 --> 23:46.040]  was arrested, for about 10 to 15 minutes, it escalated from one officer in a patrol
[23:46.040 --> 23:53.560]  car to four patrol cars, nine officers in a helicopter, all centering on only roll your
[23:53.560 --> 23:55.880]  windows down all the way.
[23:55.880 --> 24:03.080]  And he rolled his window down about two inches, driver's window down about two inches, and
[24:03.080 --> 24:06.280]  they never said why they pulled him over, they just said, hey, two inches, that's not
[24:06.280 --> 24:08.560]  enough, roll it down all the way.
[24:08.560 --> 24:14.440]  And to make a long story short, the three officers that were material in this case was
[24:14.440 --> 24:20.480]  an officer that was a backup officer, and finally the officer, the sergeant, basically
[24:20.480 --> 24:24.360]  confirmed, okay, you've rolled your back window down enough, we can see no one else is in
[24:24.360 --> 24:30.280]  the car, you have no weapons, the only thing I think going against my client is his windows
[24:30.280 --> 24:36.080]  were tinted, pretty dark so that they couldn't see in, but he remedied that by rolling them
[24:36.080 --> 24:37.080]  down.
[24:37.080 --> 24:40.960]  And ultimately, they just said, hey, look, you're not gonna roll this down, we're gonna
[24:40.960 --> 24:44.480]  bust the windows and extract him in the car and arrest you, and that's exactly what happened.
[24:44.480 --> 24:48.480]  Now, he's been charged with two separate crimes.
[24:48.480 --> 24:54.640]  One is disobeying an order, and two is obstruction of justice.
[24:54.640 --> 24:57.480]  And he wants to fight the case, so I'm gonna fight the case.
[24:57.480 --> 25:02.080]  I've been trying to tell him that this is gonna be a roll of the dice with the jury,
[25:02.080 --> 25:06.880]  but I really wanna try the case, we're gonna go to trial more than likely, and I'm just
[25:06.880 --> 25:07.880]  trying to set him straight.
[25:07.880 --> 25:11.320]  I know he's called you a couple of times, and I think he got a little misguided, not
[25:11.320 --> 25:15.400]  by you, but just by the whole experience of trial and whatnot.
[25:15.400 --> 25:20.680]  Okay, so we still, just so I can be sure I'm clear, you still do not know exactly what
[25:20.680 --> 25:24.640]  the stop was initiated for?
[25:24.640 --> 25:27.880]  I know that now, we all know that now, because we've had a chance to look at the police reports.
[25:27.880 --> 25:28.880]  Okay.
[25:28.880 --> 25:32.400]  They allegedly stopped, yeah, they allegedly stopped him for three reasons.
[25:32.400 --> 25:37.260]  One, he was following the car in front of him too closely, which I highly doubt that
[25:37.260 --> 25:40.400]  that's the case, because I've never heard of anyone writing a ticket for that.
[25:40.400 --> 25:44.680]  And in fact, they didn't even write him a ticket for any of these three things I'm gonna
[25:44.680 --> 25:45.680]  mention.
[25:45.680 --> 25:52.280]  Two, that he had a defective brake light, which I also highly doubt, because we're gonna
[25:52.280 --> 25:57.160]  get a mechanic certification that looked at the car prior to the traffic stop and never
[25:57.160 --> 25:59.120]  noticed the brake light being out.
[25:59.120 --> 26:01.820]  And of course, again, they didn't cite him for that.
[26:01.820 --> 26:04.280]  And three, that he had expired tags.
[26:04.280 --> 26:08.600]  Now, it is true that someone took off his tag, but his registration was out.
[26:08.600 --> 26:12.280]  If a cop would have ran the place, they would have came back valid registration.
[26:12.280 --> 26:14.840]  He just had the tag.
[26:14.840 --> 26:21.480]  But to have an officer pull you over on the freeway and notice that your tag has expired
[26:21.480 --> 26:25.720]  while traveling on the freeway, and they weren't following him for too long a period of time,
[26:25.720 --> 26:29.120]  you know, I think I'm gonna try to raise enough doubt to say that this traffic stop should
[26:29.120 --> 26:33.440]  have never been made in the first place, and if I can pull that off, then the case will
[26:33.440 --> 26:35.400]  get thrown out before it even goes to trial.
[26:35.400 --> 26:40.200]  Well, what would you say if you could potentially do that based on other reasons?
[26:40.200 --> 26:44.520]  Sure, I'm open to anything.
[26:44.520 --> 26:53.440]  But the way I've seen a lot of these cases go in California is, first, you throw off
[26:53.440 --> 26:56.920]  traffic stop altogether by saying it's not a valid stop.
[26:56.920 --> 26:59.920]  If you can do that, it's case closed.
[26:59.920 --> 27:02.600]  If you can't do that, it would proceed to trial.
[27:02.600 --> 27:08.320]  You're suggesting there's another way to avoid this from going to trial, even though you
[27:08.320 --> 27:11.520]  fail to suppress the stop.
[27:11.520 --> 27:12.520]  I'm open to that.
[27:12.520 --> 27:14.320]  I think he's got a lot of interesting ideas.
[27:14.320 --> 27:19.920]  But what I see practically working in court is only those options.
[27:19.920 --> 27:25.200]  Now, you can come up with a lot of theories, and those would preserve a right to appeal.
[27:25.200 --> 27:27.120]  But the judges say, you know what, take that up on appeal.
[27:27.120 --> 27:29.160]  We're moving forward with trial.
[27:29.160 --> 27:32.160]  That's entirely possible.
[27:32.160 --> 27:36.240]  But just to interject on this, the reason I'm saying that is because have you verified
[27:36.240 --> 27:40.280]  what level of charge each of these three things are?
[27:40.280 --> 27:45.960]  Yes, all three of these alleged charges are traffic infractions.
[27:45.960 --> 27:46.960]  Infractions.
[27:46.960 --> 27:53.120]  Okay, that's your key word there, infraction.
[27:53.120 --> 27:57.720]  You are aware that California courts have already ruled, and the California statute
[27:57.720 --> 28:03.400]  specifically state that infractions are not crimes.
[28:03.400 --> 28:06.680]  That's correct, they're not crimes.
[28:06.680 --> 28:13.840]  So what probable cause could an officer have in a civil matter to seize an individual without
[28:13.840 --> 28:15.200]  a warrant?
[28:15.200 --> 28:20.120]  And how would he get a warrant, since a warrant requires probable cause of an actual crime
[28:20.120 --> 28:23.880]  to be stated before it can be issued?
[28:23.880 --> 28:27.200]  I hear you loud and clear, and I had a chance to listen to one of your podcasts.
[28:27.200 --> 28:29.600]  So now we're getting to the crux of the issue.
[28:29.600 --> 28:36.380]  You are correct that the three infractions he was cited for are not arrestable offenses,
[28:36.380 --> 28:37.960]  they are not criminal.
[28:37.960 --> 28:42.240]  The worst that would have happened is he would have said, okay, I don't agree to any of these
[28:42.240 --> 28:46.000]  three things happening, but you want to go ahead and write me a ticket, write me a ticket.
[28:46.000 --> 28:49.240]  I'm not rolling the window down all the way, stick it through the window and I'll be on
[28:49.240 --> 28:50.240]  my way.
[28:50.240 --> 28:51.240]  That would have been it.
[28:51.240 --> 28:54.540]  Well, but the thing is, what I'm getting at is they had no authority to pull him over
[28:54.540 --> 28:56.040]  in the first place.
[28:56.040 --> 29:00.280]  They never had the right to activate their lights and pull him over.
[29:00.280 --> 29:03.040]  The infraction does not authorize them to do that.
[29:03.040 --> 29:06.360]  And you've got tons of California case laws, my understanding, and I've actually seen at
[29:06.360 --> 29:11.280]  least one case of it, I don't have it, but a guy sent me the excerpt out of it.
[29:11.280 --> 29:14.680]  But it specifically says that it's not criminal.
[29:14.680 --> 29:17.460]  An officer does not have the power of arrest.
[29:17.460 --> 29:21.840]  He cannot even detain because there's no criminal suspicion.
[29:21.840 --> 29:24.520]  There's no probable cause.
[29:24.520 --> 29:30.440]  The stop itself from the very beginning was illegal under California statute.
[29:30.440 --> 29:34.360]  Everything after that is fruit of the poison tree, right?
[29:34.360 --> 29:35.520]  If the stop was illegal...
[29:35.520 --> 29:39.840]  Okay, Adam, I got to take a quick break, but if you'll hang on, I'll finish this up with
[29:39.840 --> 29:41.840]  you on the other side, okay?
[29:41.840 --> 29:42.840]  You got it.
[29:42.840 --> 29:43.840]  All right.
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[33:41.320 --> 33:44.240]  This is Rule of Law Radio, Monday night show.
[33:44.240 --> 33:45.420]  I'm your host, Eddie Craig.
[33:45.420 --> 33:48.240]  We are talking to Adam in California.
[33:48.240 --> 33:52.580]  Okay, Adam, just one more thing and then I'll let you get out everything you want to get
[33:52.580 --> 33:56.480]  out about your client here on this and it deals with the fact about rolling the window
[33:56.480 --> 33:58.600]  down specifically.
[33:58.600 --> 34:04.560]  Now of course you know your client had a right to remain silent, correct?
[34:04.560 --> 34:05.560]  Correct.
[34:05.560 --> 34:06.560]  Okay.
[34:06.560 --> 34:12.360]  That would mean not talking to the officers at all, but that would also encompass not
[34:12.360 --> 34:18.360]  providing any sort of physical information to the officer as well if that information
[34:18.360 --> 34:23.360]  could potentially incriminate him or be used against him in court, correct?
[34:23.360 --> 34:24.360]  Correct.
[34:24.360 --> 34:25.360]  Okay.
[34:25.360 --> 34:31.520]  But the fact that he did not wish to engage the officers for that purpose is an invocation
[34:31.520 --> 34:32.520]  of his right.
[34:32.520 --> 34:34.440]  He's not even required to say it.
[34:34.440 --> 34:38.780]  And we know that there's a recent Supreme Court case out there that says that once you
[34:38.780 --> 34:44.520]  start answering questions, your right to remain silent pretty well goes right out the window
[34:44.520 --> 34:49.480]  because everything you said up to that point can still be used against you and the fact
[34:49.480 --> 34:56.600]  that you refuse to answer questions can now be used against you.
[34:56.600 --> 34:59.200]  You heard about that case, right?
[34:59.200 --> 35:01.880]  Actually I don't believe that that is the case.
[35:01.880 --> 35:05.760]  Now I know that there are cases where you can invoke your right to remain silent at
[35:05.760 --> 35:11.760]  any time and refusing to answer questions beyond your invocation, I don't think that
[35:11.760 --> 35:12.760]  would be the case.
[35:12.760 --> 35:16.920]  In this particular, the case I'm describing, this was the scenario.
[35:16.920 --> 35:20.620]  The guy was being interrogated, he had been arrested and he was being interrogated for
[35:20.620 --> 35:23.680]  involvement in a murder.
[35:23.680 --> 35:28.240]  And he was freely answering questions up to the point where one of the officers asked
[35:28.240 --> 35:36.000]  him if he was the one or knew of who had actually pulled the trigger and the guy suddenly clammed
[35:36.000 --> 35:37.600]  up and demanded his lawyer.
[35:37.600 --> 35:41.320]  Well, when that went to trial, they used that information and when it got all the way up
[35:41.320 --> 35:45.980]  to the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court ruled that by answering the questions initially,
[35:45.980 --> 35:49.120]  the fact that he then clammed up could be used against him.
[35:49.120 --> 35:54.520]  Fair enough, I hadn't heard of that case, do you know the site of that?
[35:54.520 --> 35:57.280]  I can find it, it's not hard to do.
[35:57.280 --> 36:02.280]  All you gotta do is look up Supreme Court says the right to remain silent no longer
[36:02.280 --> 36:04.280]  exists.
[36:04.280 --> 36:07.160]  Okay.
[36:07.160 --> 36:11.200]  But I can find it again, that's not too hard to do.
[36:11.200 --> 36:17.080]  But in any case, please go ahead, whatever I have stepped on so far, get it out there.
[36:17.080 --> 36:18.080]  Okay.
[36:18.080 --> 36:25.040]  Well, you brought up an interesting comment about no power to detain or arrest.
[36:25.040 --> 36:32.720]  My understanding is in California, if a police officer observes someone running a red light,
[36:32.720 --> 36:37.840]  beating or running a stop sign and they go ahead and light the person up and the person
[36:37.840 --> 36:46.880]  refuses to pull over, that could create a scenario whereby they go from a traffic infraction
[36:46.880 --> 36:51.160]  to a crime because they would be felony evading.
[36:51.160 --> 36:58.600]  So I think what got the client in this case confused is that when he was lit up, he pulled
[36:58.600 --> 36:59.600]  over.
[36:59.600 --> 37:03.720]  But to suggest to him that he does not have to pull over, that might be in conflict with
[37:03.720 --> 37:09.320]  how the courts do things in California because if someone refuses to pull over, eventually
[37:09.320 --> 37:15.480]  they can use force to make him pull over and take him in and you see a lot of the TV.
[37:15.480 --> 37:20.060]  That's true, but there is case law in the books that says, now true, you can't recklessly
[37:20.060 --> 37:25.280]  endanger others when you do this, but that we do have the right to resist an unlawful
[37:25.280 --> 37:26.280]  arrest.
[37:26.280 --> 37:27.280]  Now I'm not saying your client was doing that.
[37:27.280 --> 37:30.300]  I'm just putting that out there for you to look up and check.
[37:30.300 --> 37:34.320]  But there is case law in the books that says we have the absolute right to resist an unlawful
[37:34.320 --> 37:35.320]  arrest.
[37:35.320 --> 37:38.240]  Whether the state likes it or not, we have it.
[37:38.240 --> 37:42.440]  But the point here is, and you are correct, if he pulled over, that's not going to fly
[37:42.440 --> 37:44.180]  as an excuse.
[37:44.180 --> 37:49.240]  And if you've got the video from the police cruiser to countermand that accusation, that's
[37:49.240 --> 37:51.920]  a no win statement for them.
[37:51.920 --> 37:55.840]  Yeah, here's the argument they would make.
[37:55.840 --> 38:01.200]  But I think the first point is, he was under the belief from your show, he might have misinterpreted
[38:01.200 --> 38:06.640]  or maybe you could set the record straight, but in California, if a police officer lights
[38:06.640 --> 38:13.280]  you up and you don't pull over, at some point they can arrest you for evading.
[38:13.280 --> 38:16.000]  Yeah, that's entirely possible.
[38:16.000 --> 38:17.000]  Okay.
[38:17.000 --> 38:22.000]  I'm not saying that that's not, I mean, because once you start doing something else that's
[38:22.000 --> 38:27.400]  no longer the infraction, yeah, of course they can intercede.
[38:27.400 --> 38:33.080]  Yeah, but even if you only run the red light or you only commit the speeding or you only
[38:33.080 --> 38:38.040]  run the stop sign and they light you up and you, from that point forward, obey all traffic
[38:38.040 --> 38:42.480]  laws that you just don't pull over and they're following you for 20 minutes and now they
[38:42.480 --> 38:46.720]  got a helicopter and five cars on you, he was led to believe, oh no, they still have
[38:46.720 --> 38:47.720]  no right to pull you over.
[38:47.720 --> 38:51.640]  And I was trying to tell him- Well, technically, in a lawsuit aspect, that
[38:51.640 --> 38:52.640]  is correct.
[38:52.640 --> 38:53.640]  They don't.
[38:53.640 --> 39:01.040]  But from a safety aspect, especially in California, as we should well know after all the Chris
[39:01.040 --> 39:04.600]  Donner and all the other, or I'm sorry, what was his name?
[39:04.600 --> 39:07.760]  Yeah, there was a Donner who was a police officer.
[39:07.760 --> 39:08.760]  Yeah.
[39:08.760 --> 39:11.080]  They're shooting up innocent people's cars.
[39:11.080 --> 39:13.480]  What the hell are they going to do with one they've actually decided they're going to
[39:13.480 --> 39:15.500]  chase?
[39:15.500 --> 39:17.920]  You're taking your life in your hands by not pulling over.
[39:17.920 --> 39:22.840]  The thing is, in California, my recommendation is pull over anyway, because as long as it's
[39:22.840 --> 39:26.120]  a trafficking fraction, that stops illegal.
[39:26.120 --> 39:29.240]  Take them to court and sue them for that, but don't run from them.
[39:29.240 --> 39:30.800]  Okay, got it.
[39:30.800 --> 39:32.480]  So we got the record straight on that.
[39:32.480 --> 39:38.120]  So if he gets lit up, even if it's an invalid allegation of a trafficking fraction, the
[39:38.120 --> 39:39.480]  right thing to do is to still pull over.
[39:39.480 --> 39:41.200]  So we're on the same page there.
[39:41.200 --> 39:45.960]  He did that and they came up to him and said, roll out the window.
[39:45.960 --> 39:50.760]  Now his one handicap here is his windows were tinted.
[39:50.760 --> 39:54.400]  And there is a law, there is a vehicle code violation in California for having windows
[39:54.400 --> 39:55.400]  too much tinted.
[39:55.400 --> 39:58.560]  The good news in this case is they didn't even write him a ticket for that.
[39:58.560 --> 40:01.520]  In fact, I think they went out of their way not to bring that up.
[40:01.520 --> 40:02.520]  Right.
[40:02.520 --> 40:06.360]  Well, now here's the other thing though, keep this in mind as a point of defense.
[40:06.360 --> 40:11.680]  They've never shown that his windows violated the tint rules, did they?
[40:11.680 --> 40:14.920]  They didn't make a statement that they were darker than allowed by law or anything like
[40:14.920 --> 40:16.080]  that.
[40:16.080 --> 40:17.800]  That's correct.
[40:17.800 --> 40:21.000]  So the fact that they're tinted in that case is simply irrelevant.
[40:21.000 --> 40:23.840]  He just didn't like the fact that he couldn't see into the car.
[40:23.840 --> 40:24.840]  Okay.
[40:24.840 --> 40:25.920]  Good point.
[40:25.920 --> 40:29.320]  Now that could become an issue later on, but you're right.
[40:29.320 --> 40:34.240]  There was no traffic ticket issued for any of this stuff.
[40:34.240 --> 40:37.720]  However, so now we're at the point where he did pull over.
[40:37.720 --> 40:40.720]  He also refused to roll the windows down all the way.
[40:40.720 --> 40:45.560]  And the issue here is does the officer have a safety interest to say, hey, I got to have
[40:45.560 --> 40:48.680]  you roll the windows down enough to be able to see through the car.
[40:48.680 --> 40:52.280]  We get past that issue because he did go ahead and say, okay, I'm rolling down the windows.
[40:52.280 --> 40:53.280]  And he did roll down the windows.
[40:53.280 --> 40:58.260]  And it got to the point where the sergeant was actually having a three-minute conversation
[40:58.260 --> 41:03.440]  with him and even said on the radio back to the headquarters, hey, a single male black
[41:03.440 --> 41:06.960]  in the car refusing to roll down windows down all the way.
[41:06.960 --> 41:07.960]  So that's where they are.
[41:07.960 --> 41:14.040]  Now, the two criminal charges he's charged with is refusing to obey an order and obstruction
[41:14.040 --> 41:15.040]  of justice.
[41:15.040 --> 41:21.920]  Now, on the refusal to obey an order, that's when we cross the line from a traffic infraction
[41:21.920 --> 41:24.880]  to a crime, an allegation of a crime.
[41:24.880 --> 41:25.880]  That's what he's been charged with.
[41:25.880 --> 41:31.620]  Now, I suppose in the future, if he runs into a situation like that again, he might be better
[41:31.620 --> 41:34.240]  off just rolling the windows down all the way and say, okay, I'm rolling the windows
[41:34.240 --> 41:37.240]  down all the way, but go ahead and write me the ticket if you want to.
[41:37.240 --> 41:38.240]  And then he'll fight the ticket.
[41:38.240 --> 41:41.120]  And if he beats the ticket, then he can file a lawsuit.
[41:41.120 --> 41:42.120]  Okay.
[41:42.120 --> 41:47.720]  Is there a California statute that says the officer's safety concern trumps the one in
[41:47.720 --> 41:50.320]  the car's safety concern?
[41:50.320 --> 41:55.680]  See, the problem here is the officer thinks rolling down the windows is a lawful order.
[41:55.680 --> 41:56.680]  It's not.
[41:56.680 --> 42:01.040]  There's nothing that allows him to order you to roll down your car and compromise your
[42:01.040 --> 42:04.200]  safety in sake for his.
[42:04.200 --> 42:09.400]  Nor can he say roll down your windows so that I can look around the interior car to see
[42:09.400 --> 42:13.040]  if there's something I can spot to accuse you of.
[42:13.040 --> 42:14.520]  That's a Fifth Amendment violation.
[42:14.520 --> 42:18.800]  If he can't see in, that's not your problem as long as the reason he can't see in is not
[42:18.800 --> 42:20.800]  illegal.
[42:20.800 --> 42:25.560]  I think those are great points and I think that's what's going to be brought to the jury.
[42:25.560 --> 42:27.680]  The issue is, was this a valid order?
[42:27.680 --> 42:28.760]  That's the crux of this case.
[42:28.760 --> 42:32.620]  But I just want you to be aware, I was surprised about this myself.
[42:32.620 --> 42:40.920]  There is a U.S. Supreme Court case, Pennsylvania v. MIM, 98 Supreme Court 330, 1977, which
[42:40.920 --> 42:49.120]  stated that if an officer orders you to get out of the car and you refuse, that can create
[42:49.120 --> 42:50.200]  an issue.
[42:50.200 --> 42:55.280]  In Pennsylvania v. MIM, the person complied with the order and said, hey, they should
[42:55.280 --> 42:57.000]  have never told me to get out of the car in the first place.
[42:57.000 --> 43:01.240]  And as a result, the officer saw a bullet, did a pass down, found a weapon, charged him
[43:01.240 --> 43:05.280]  with carrying a concealed weapon, and the defense lawyer in that case successfully argued
[43:05.280 --> 43:09.680]  at the trial level, hey, that's not a valid order to tell somebody to get out of the car.
[43:09.680 --> 43:11.800]  I want the gun suppressed.
[43:11.800 --> 43:14.600]  And the court ruled in the defense lawyer's favor.
[43:14.600 --> 43:18.600]  Unfortunately, it did go all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court and they said the safety
[43:18.600 --> 43:24.380]  of the officer does trump, and they didn't use the word, trumps the safety of the driver,
[43:24.380 --> 43:31.800]  but basically stated trumps the privacy rights of the driver to stay in the driver's seat.
[43:31.800 --> 43:33.320]  So that's just the side note.
[43:33.320 --> 43:34.320]  It doesn't apply in...
[43:34.320 --> 43:35.320]  Yeah.
[43:35.320 --> 43:37.520]  But again, that's to get out of the car.
[43:37.520 --> 43:39.240]  This is the roll down the window.
[43:39.240 --> 43:40.640]  You got it.
[43:40.640 --> 43:41.640]  Okay.
[43:41.640 --> 43:42.640]  So...
[43:42.640 --> 43:43.640]  Hold on one second.
[43:43.640 --> 43:44.640]  I got to...
[43:44.640 --> 43:45.640]  Yeah.
[43:45.640 --> 43:47.760]  I've got to take another break, but if you'll hang on, Adam, we'll finish this up when we
[43:47.760 --> 43:48.760]  get back.
[43:48.760 --> 43:49.760]  Okay?
[43:49.760 --> 43:50.760]  Okay.
[43:50.760 --> 43:51.760]  You got it.
[43:51.760 --> 43:52.760]  All right, folks.
[43:52.760 --> 43:56.080]  We'll be right back with question number 512646 1984.
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[46:07.200 --> 46:27.000]  All right, folks.
[46:27.000 --> 46:28.000]  We are back.
[46:28.000 --> 46:33.620]  This is Rule of Law Radio, and we are still talking with Adam in California, Brandon Truth
[46:33.620 --> 46:35.800]  Raider, other caller.
[46:35.800 --> 46:39.560]  I can't see your name, but y'all hang on, I'll get to you here as soon as I get done
[46:39.560 --> 46:40.560]  with Adam.
[46:40.560 --> 46:42.560]  All right, Adam, let's go ahead.
[46:42.560 --> 46:45.480]  Okay, just finishing off with it.
[46:45.480 --> 46:50.760]  I think we're almost done, but I think the interesting point we got to is if he orders
[46:50.760 --> 46:55.320]  you to get out of the car, the Supreme Court rules that that might be a lawful order.
[46:55.320 --> 46:59.200]  Fortunately, in my client's case, they never ordered him to get out of the car, but what
[46:59.200 --> 47:03.040]  I noticed with the woman in Florida is when they kept telling her to roll the windows
[47:03.040 --> 47:07.280]  down, finally he said, okay, get out of the car, and she refused to get out of the car.
[47:07.280 --> 47:11.880]  So it's kind of funny that we have this horrible rule out there that these officers can at
[47:11.880 --> 47:16.120]  any time order you to get out of the car, yet they're not capitalizing on it or taking
[47:16.120 --> 47:17.120]  advantage of it.
[47:17.120 --> 47:18.120]  So I disagree with the rule.
[47:18.120 --> 47:19.120]  I don't think it's a fair rule.
[47:19.120 --> 47:21.600]  I think people should be able to stay in their car.
[47:21.600 --> 47:27.080]  But an observation I'm making is that officers typically don't utilize that to make their
[47:27.080 --> 47:30.120]  case for obstruction or disobeying an order.
[47:30.120 --> 47:33.160]  And in my client's case, they never ordered him to get out of the car.
[47:33.160 --> 47:35.560]  They only ordered him to roll the windows down all the way.
[47:35.560 --> 47:40.320]  That's what he was being arrested for, and that's what led to the obstruction or delay.
[47:40.320 --> 47:43.440]  And in the police report, they never specifically stated what justice he obstructed.
[47:43.440 --> 47:46.560]  We can only assume it prevented him from writing a ticket.
[47:46.560 --> 47:50.200]  However, they never tried to write him a ticket, and even if they did, they could have handed
[47:50.200 --> 47:51.840]  it to him through the window.
[47:51.840 --> 47:52.840]  Exactly.
[47:52.840 --> 47:57.760]  They cannot argue that he obstructed their ability to do what they stopped him for.
[47:57.760 --> 48:00.280]  That's exactly the point.
[48:00.280 --> 48:03.080]  That is exactly the point.
[48:03.080 --> 48:07.600]  I think one of the arguments that the prosecutors may make is, well, come on, he wanted to get
[48:07.600 --> 48:11.600]  the guy's driver's license, registration, and insurance, and without that, he couldn't
[48:11.600 --> 48:12.600]  write a ticket.
[48:12.600 --> 48:15.720]  But the counter to that is, hey, you never actually asked him for it.
[48:15.720 --> 48:16.720]  Yeah.
[48:16.720 --> 48:21.280]  Not only is that one counter, the other one is, can any of the information that the officer
[48:21.280 --> 48:24.840]  was demanding be used against my client in a court of law to potentially incriminate
[48:24.840 --> 48:26.840]  him in any way?
[48:26.840 --> 48:30.320]  For instance, if he handed him an expired license or expired insurance, they could have
[48:30.320 --> 48:32.880]  charged him with something else, right?
[48:32.880 --> 48:33.880]  That's right.
[48:33.880 --> 48:34.880]  Okay.
[48:34.880 --> 48:40.040]  So how can they say that you're required to provide this when the statute is in violation
[48:40.040 --> 48:43.120]  of a protected, unalienable right when it demands that you do so?
[48:43.120 --> 48:47.680]  It's requiring that you waive a right to exercise their so-called privilege.
[48:47.680 --> 48:50.880]  And there's case law that says that can't happen.
[48:50.880 --> 48:56.920]  You cannot compel anyone to waive a right to exercise a privilege for any reason.
[48:56.920 --> 48:57.920]  Yeah.
[48:57.920 --> 49:01.000]  I mean, I think another thing a defendant can do or a driver could do is just say, look,
[49:01.000 --> 49:02.000]  I don't have it.
[49:02.000 --> 49:03.000]  And then you're not refusing.
[49:03.000 --> 49:04.000]  You're just not providing it.
[49:04.000 --> 49:05.000]  Exactly.
[49:05.000 --> 49:10.680]  It turns out in this case, he did not have anything incriminating.
[49:10.680 --> 49:15.000]  The first counter is they never asked him for it.
[49:15.000 --> 49:18.480]  So I think their argument is going to be, hey, we didn't bother to get to the point
[49:18.480 --> 49:19.880]  asking for registration insurance.
[49:19.880 --> 49:21.720]  We couldn't even get cash rolled out of the window.
[49:21.720 --> 49:27.120]  So in the end, I think it's a case that I'll be comfortable with with a jury, but what
[49:27.120 --> 49:32.080]  I was trying to point out to them is it's not a slam dunk in front of the judge because
[49:32.080 --> 49:38.040]  the law is kind of gray in this area because the violation is refusing to obey an order.
[49:38.040 --> 49:40.560]  The gray area is what is a valid order.
[49:40.560 --> 49:41.560]  We know...
[49:41.560 --> 49:42.560]  Exactly.
[49:42.560 --> 49:43.560]  US Supreme Court.
[49:43.560 --> 49:44.560]  Yeah.
[49:44.560 --> 49:49.720]  And I've actually, on my Facebook page, I actually did a dissertation on lawful orders.
[49:49.720 --> 49:54.800]  And one of the primary arguments I make is it is not a lawful order unless it has a lawful
[49:54.800 --> 49:56.920]  purpose.
[49:56.920 --> 49:57.920]  That's simple.
[49:57.920 --> 50:01.800]  Otherwise, any arbitrary statement out of an officer's mouth could be construed as an
[50:01.800 --> 50:04.000]  order, whether it actually is valid or not.
[50:04.000 --> 50:05.000]  That's right.
[50:05.000 --> 50:07.320]  He could say, get out of the car and start break dancing.
[50:07.320 --> 50:09.320]  That cannot be a valid order.
[50:09.320 --> 50:10.320]  Exactly.
[50:10.320 --> 50:11.320]  Okay.
[50:11.320 --> 50:17.880]  So again, I think he cleared up a few things about pulling over and whatnot.
[50:17.880 --> 50:19.000]  He answered the question about the girl.
[50:19.000 --> 50:20.280]  I think he answered everything.
[50:20.280 --> 50:24.840]  So I really appreciate it and I like your show and your concepts.
[50:24.840 --> 50:28.680]  I'm sure my client will be calling in again and we'll keep you posted on how this case
[50:28.680 --> 50:29.680]  goes.
[50:29.680 --> 50:32.800]  Well, I appreciate that and I especially appreciate that coming from someone in your position
[50:32.800 --> 50:33.800]  really.
[50:33.800 --> 50:39.200]  And actually, it's kind of nice because there's another lady attorney in California that listens
[50:39.200 --> 50:41.560]  to my show and calls in from time to time.
[50:41.560 --> 50:42.840]  I actually think that's great.
[50:42.840 --> 50:47.800]  I'm glad lawyers don't, at least some, don't have a major issue with what I'm saying because
[50:47.800 --> 50:50.080]  I try to do what's in the black letter law.
[50:50.080 --> 50:54.360]  I don't just fly by the cuff, but I do try to make observations about things that I'm
[50:54.360 --> 50:56.920]  pretty sure the system isn't paying any attention to.
[50:56.920 --> 50:57.920]  All right.
[50:57.920 --> 50:59.040]  Well, you can thank Mark Scott.
[50:59.040 --> 51:00.480]  He's the one who turned me onto your show.
[51:00.480 --> 51:02.040]  He's the one who wanted me to call in.
[51:02.040 --> 51:03.040]  All right.
[51:03.040 --> 51:04.920]  Well, I appreciate that and I appreciate Mark too.
[51:04.920 --> 51:05.920]  Thanks for calling in Adam.
[51:05.920 --> 51:06.920]  Thank you.
[51:06.920 --> 51:07.920]  All right.
[51:07.920 --> 51:08.920]  Bye bye.
[51:08.920 --> 51:09.920]  All right.
[51:09.920 --> 51:12.320]  Now we're going to transition over to Brandon in Texas.
[51:12.320 --> 51:14.040]  Brandon, what can we do for you?
[51:14.040 --> 51:17.360]  Hey Eddie, appreciate you taking my call tonight.
[51:17.360 --> 51:18.360]  Sure.
[51:18.360 --> 51:25.760]  Basically, I went to court today and something really, a really criminal happened.
[51:25.760 --> 51:33.240]  I was scheduled for a jury trial in a county, supposed to be a de novo trial from the municipal
[51:33.240 --> 51:34.240]  court.
[51:34.240 --> 51:41.680]  But anyway, after the judge granted the prosecution of continuance because the cop's wife had
[51:41.680 --> 51:45.560]  a health problem or whatever, he wouldn't be able to make the first trial.
[51:45.560 --> 51:50.600]  So they were granted a continuance and then this is back on June 26th.
[51:50.600 --> 51:55.720]  So the arraignment was last Thursday or the pretrial hearing was last Thursday and then
[51:55.720 --> 51:57.240]  today was supposed to be the jury trial.
[51:57.240 --> 52:03.440]  Well, I go in there today at 830 in the morning is when it was supposed to be, I show up an
[52:03.440 --> 52:07.760]  hour early, the door is open, I go in and sit down and the bailiff comes up and asks
[52:07.760 --> 52:12.360]  me what do I need today?
[52:12.360 --> 52:18.880]  And I told him, I'm here for a jury trial and he said, oh no, you've been rescheduled
[52:18.880 --> 52:20.880]  to Wednesday.
[52:20.880 --> 52:29.420]  Now there was no, whenever the continuance was given previously, a new notice to appear
[52:29.420 --> 52:33.960]  was generated and filled out and signed by myself, the state's attorney and obviously
[52:33.960 --> 52:36.960]  the judge and some other folks.
[52:36.960 --> 52:40.240]  But that never happened this time.
[52:40.240 --> 52:43.680]  Obviously when I went in on Thursday, that didn't happen.
[52:43.680 --> 52:53.600]  And the judge is claiming that he said that my jury trial date is now on a Wednesday.
[52:53.600 --> 52:57.840]  Wait a minute, the bailiff's claiming or the judge is claiming?
[52:57.840 --> 53:00.560]  The judge sent the bailiff out to tell me that.
[53:00.560 --> 53:01.620]  Now, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, wait, wait.
[53:01.620 --> 53:04.960]  Did you see the judge send the bailiff out?
[53:04.960 --> 53:06.120]  No.
[53:06.120 --> 53:07.540]  Okay.
[53:07.540 --> 53:09.400]  That's the key point here.
[53:09.400 --> 53:16.800]  Do not ever, ever under any circumstances, take anyone's word for anything that it is
[53:16.800 --> 53:21.600]  not produced in writing, especially when it comes to appearances in court.
[53:21.600 --> 53:25.480]  If that, if whatever's given to you didn't come directly from the judge or signed by
[53:25.480 --> 53:30.720]  the judge or has something proving it came from the court, don't walk out of there till
[53:30.720 --> 53:32.840]  you get something that does.
[53:32.840 --> 53:36.040]  Now that's, that's for everybody's benefit, not just yours.
[53:36.040 --> 53:37.600]  That's everybody's benefit.
[53:37.600 --> 53:40.820]  I don't care who walks up to you and tells you something.
[53:40.820 --> 53:42.400]  Get it in writing.
[53:42.400 --> 53:43.400]  Okay.
[53:43.400 --> 53:44.400]  Okay.
[53:44.400 --> 53:45.400]  Go ahead.
[53:45.400 --> 53:46.400]  All right.
[53:46.400 --> 53:47.400]  Yeah.
[53:47.400 --> 53:50.560]  Well, that's basically what happened today.
[53:50.560 --> 53:56.920]  And then, um, so, um, I, I obviously didn't do what you just said.
[53:56.920 --> 54:02.980]  Um, uh, what I did do is I went down to the clerk's office to see if something had been
[54:02.980 --> 54:10.120]  filed in there to, uh, basically stating that just to back, try to find a judge that slipped
[54:10.120 --> 54:14.200]  an order in and, you know, I didn't get notice of it and it wasn't there.
[54:14.200 --> 54:19.280]  Um, so I filed, um, I had to, we just moved to a new place.
[54:19.280 --> 54:28.200]  So I filed a change of address, um, into the record, um, which shows I was there, um, at
[54:28.200 --> 54:29.200]  the time.
[54:29.200 --> 54:32.920]  So, um, so what, what am I looking at now?
[54:32.920 --> 54:39.120]  I mean, what, uh, well, the thing is if, what have they done?
[54:39.120 --> 54:43.000]  They told you that you were supposed to have a jury trial and they said, it's set for this
[54:43.000 --> 54:45.000]  day after tomorrow.
[54:45.000 --> 54:46.000]  Yes.
[54:46.000 --> 54:47.000]  Okay.
[54:47.000 --> 54:52.160]  Then there's nothing in the record saying that then call them and tell them to send
[54:52.160 --> 54:55.300]  it to you or go down and tell them, look, I'm going to be coming down to pick up the
[54:55.300 --> 55:00.860]  reset that set my case for Wednesday instead of Monday, there was nothing signed or sent
[55:00.860 --> 55:05.460]  to me, no notice was given of the change, nothing, not even a phone call, which I wouldn't
[55:05.460 --> 55:10.660]  have accepted as notice, but still, so I need something in writing saying that my case has
[55:10.660 --> 55:13.840]  been changed from Monday to Wednesday.
[55:13.840 --> 55:15.480]  Okay.
[55:15.480 --> 55:22.080]  And then if that doesn't happen, um, what would, what would be the next step?
[55:22.080 --> 55:27.260]  I mean, well, then the thing about it is you don't have anything except the last signed
[55:27.260 --> 55:29.080]  order you got, do you?
[55:29.080 --> 55:30.080]  No.
[55:30.080 --> 55:33.760]  So it's kind of up to you, whether you're not, whether or not you show up on Wednesday,
[55:33.760 --> 55:34.760]  right?
[55:34.760 --> 55:35.760]  Yeah, that's true.
[55:35.760 --> 55:37.520]  I knew you were going to say that.
[55:37.520 --> 55:39.080]  Well, I mean, it's your choice.
[55:39.080 --> 55:44.600]  You can go in and let them do whatever they're going to do on Wednesday, or you can force
[55:44.600 --> 55:48.600]  them to comply with the law that they try to hold you to.
[55:48.600 --> 55:50.560]  They're required to do certain things.
[55:50.560 --> 55:52.400]  They don't do them.
[55:52.400 --> 55:57.300]  So when do we force them to do them?
[55:57.300 --> 56:01.240]  And again, like I say, that's your call as to whether or not you wish to play that card
[56:01.240 --> 56:03.000]  on them and force them to do anything.
[56:03.000 --> 56:06.880]  I'm not telling you to do that if you can't or won't.
[56:06.880 --> 56:11.360]  I'm just simply saying at what point do we make them comply with the same law they say
[56:11.360 --> 56:12.960]  binds us?
[56:12.960 --> 56:16.200]  Because the law was written to bind them, not us.
[56:16.200 --> 56:20.480]  It says they have to do this and they're not doing it.
[56:20.480 --> 56:23.600]  Okay.
[56:23.600 --> 56:28.460]  So if ignorance of the law is not an excuse, how about ignoring the law that's called due
[56:28.460 --> 56:29.460]  process?
[56:29.460 --> 56:31.100]  Is that an excuse?
[56:31.100 --> 56:34.640]  Right, it isn't.
[56:34.640 --> 56:38.920]  And see, you can make the claim of harm because if they issued a warrant because you didn't
[56:38.920 --> 56:44.080]  show up on Wednesday and they didn't have an actual filed order in there or anything
[56:44.080 --> 56:49.400]  like that, and then they issued an arrest warrant, you got grounds to sue after that
[56:49.400 --> 56:54.160]  because you never got actual official notice of a change of anything.
[56:54.160 --> 56:56.520]  The bailiff doesn't qualify as official notice.
[56:56.520 --> 56:59.920]  He didn't give you anything in writing.
[56:59.920 --> 57:02.720]  The bailiff, hell, there could have been two of them sitting in the back going, hey, let
[57:02.720 --> 57:04.560]  me see if I can screw this guy over for his trial.
[57:04.560 --> 57:06.760]  Let me go out and tell him his trial date's been changed.
[57:06.760 --> 57:11.960]  Watch how funny this is when he comes in on the wrong day and we're told to arrest him.
[57:11.960 --> 57:15.920]  You have no way of knowing whether that happened or not, do you?
[57:15.920 --> 57:16.920]  I don't.
[57:16.920 --> 57:17.920]  There you go.
[57:17.920 --> 57:25.120]  So I need to make that call tomorrow to get them to send me something in writing.
[57:25.120 --> 57:26.120]  Absolutely.
[57:26.120 --> 57:27.120]  Okay.
[57:27.120 --> 57:30.600]  All right, I'll get that done.
[57:30.600 --> 57:37.840]  All right, also, second question, it was about the cross-examination script.
[57:37.840 --> 57:47.120]  I understand everything except I get to the part where questioning the officer regarding
[57:47.120 --> 57:49.680]  the elements of a speeding charge.
[57:49.680 --> 57:54.000]  Okay, now wait, wait, wait, are you actually going to go to the elements in this?
[57:54.000 --> 57:59.040]  No, no, no, no, this is a question off of the cross-examination script.
[57:59.040 --> 58:00.040]  I can bring it up.
[58:00.040 --> 58:04.240]  Okay, well, hang on and we'll take it up on the other side here because I got about 40
[58:04.240 --> 58:08.040]  seconds before we go to break, so I won't have time to answer it, but now understand
[58:08.040 --> 58:12.640]  one thing, the cross-examination script is to give you practice on formulating questions.
[58:12.640 --> 58:17.640]  It's not set in stone to necessarily be used, and there's a difference between a merits
[58:17.640 --> 58:20.600]  question and a non-merits question.
[58:20.600 --> 58:25.400]  The cross-examination script that exists in there, there's one for merits, there's one
[58:25.400 --> 58:31.240]  for non-merits, and if you're asking one directly to the merits of speeding, you're using the
[58:31.240 --> 58:34.400]  wrong one if you're using a not in transportation defense.
[58:34.400 --> 58:35.400]  Okay.
[58:35.400 --> 58:36.400]  Okay?
[58:36.400 --> 58:40.040]  So keep that in mind and mull that over while we're taking this break and we'll fix that
[58:40.040 --> 58:42.040]  up on the other side, okay?
[58:42.040 --> 58:45.040]  All right, folks, this is Rule of Law Radio.
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[01:03:21.560 --> 01:03:31.400]  All right, folks, this is Rule of Law Radio, calling number 512-646-1984.
[01:03:31.400 --> 01:03:33.360]  We are talking to Brandon in Texas.
[01:03:33.360 --> 01:03:34.360]  All right, Brandon.
[01:03:34.360 --> 01:03:35.360]  All right.
[01:03:35.360 --> 01:03:40.800]  Yeah, I pulled up the cross-examination script, and the part that I was questioning about
[01:03:40.800 --> 01:03:46.360]  was basically when you get to the line of questionings if the officer is qualified to
[01:03:46.360 --> 01:03:51.320]  make competent binding legal conclusions and determinations.
[01:03:51.320 --> 01:03:57.600]  And in that line of questioning, it goes into asking the officer what are the legal elements
[01:03:57.600 --> 01:04:03.800]  required to be proven in the evidentiary fate of a criminal trial where the accuser is charged
[01:04:03.800 --> 01:04:06.040]  with allegedly speeding.
[01:04:06.040 --> 01:04:13.320]  Now, you know, you have that question right there, and then that has a note, you know,
[01:04:13.320 --> 01:04:18.280]  to ask the next two questions in exactly the way you have them written.
[01:04:18.280 --> 01:04:24.320]  And you will never get to the next two questions unless the prosecutors sound asleep, deaf
[01:04:24.320 --> 01:04:25.320]  or stupid.
[01:04:25.320 --> 01:04:26.320]  OK.
[01:04:26.320 --> 01:04:38.680]  Well, I guess the reason I ask is just for my own knowledge is because the next two questions
[01:04:38.680 --> 01:04:44.720]  is also asking the officer to kind of the same question, but just for different offenses.
[01:04:44.720 --> 01:04:50.640]  And I'm wondering why we would give them the opportunity to, you know, we're not giving
[01:04:50.640 --> 01:04:51.720]  them opportunity.
[01:04:51.720 --> 01:04:56.960]  We're giving the prosecutor opportunity to say multiple times the officer is incompetent
[01:04:56.960 --> 01:04:57.960]  to testify.
[01:04:57.960 --> 01:04:59.960]  The officer is incompetent to testify.
[01:04:59.960 --> 01:05:01.880]  The officer is incompetent to testify.
[01:05:01.880 --> 01:05:07.200]  Well, how in the hell did we ever get here if this officer is incompetent to testify?
[01:05:07.200 --> 01:05:11.800]  If he doesn't know what the elements of the charge are, then how can he make the assertion
[01:05:11.800 --> 01:05:14.480]  that a crime was committed?
[01:05:14.480 --> 01:05:19.160]  How can he say you broke the law when he has no clue what the requisites for breaking the
[01:05:19.160 --> 01:05:22.760]  law are?
[01:05:22.760 --> 01:05:24.160]  That's what we're setting them up for.
[01:05:24.160 --> 01:05:25.160]  Yeah.
[01:05:25.160 --> 01:05:26.160]  Yeah.
[01:05:26.160 --> 01:05:29.560]  That's what I was getting hung up on, because the only I'm just reading through it and going
[01:05:29.560 --> 01:05:34.520]  straight through and the only way I see like this officer did give an answer to that without
[01:05:34.520 --> 01:05:40.560]  the prosecution objecting is he would be able to interject, you know, the wrong answer.
[01:05:40.560 --> 01:05:42.120]  And then, you know, right.
[01:05:42.120 --> 01:05:46.560]  But if he interjects the wrong answer and the prosecutor failed to object, you get to
[01:05:46.560 --> 01:05:50.240]  give the right answer.
[01:05:50.240 --> 01:05:56.020]  Because he testified to it, so you get to follow up on it.
[01:05:56.020 --> 01:06:01.560]  The only saving grace for him is the objection of the prosecutor.
[01:06:01.560 --> 01:06:06.240]  And when the prosecutor does that, what can he say except, well, my witness is incompetent
[01:06:06.240 --> 01:06:07.240]  to testify?
[01:06:07.240 --> 01:06:08.840]  Yes, we know that.
[01:06:08.840 --> 01:06:12.280]  But we want to prove it and thank you for helping.
[01:06:12.280 --> 01:06:19.720]  Wow, I didn't realize the the trap that was in that line of questioning right there.
[01:06:19.720 --> 01:06:24.800]  And believe me, they don't either.
[01:06:24.800 --> 01:06:25.800]  That's exactly the point.
[01:06:25.800 --> 01:06:27.800]  They don't see it either.
[01:06:27.800 --> 01:06:28.800]  Right.
[01:06:28.800 --> 01:06:29.800]  Yeah.
[01:06:29.800 --> 01:06:32.400]  Thanks for clarifying that.
[01:06:32.400 --> 01:06:33.400]  Sure.
[01:06:33.400 --> 01:06:35.400]  Like I said, I did not see it.
[01:06:35.400 --> 01:06:36.400]  Okay.
[01:06:36.400 --> 01:06:38.400]  Yeah, I don't have anything else.
[01:06:38.400 --> 01:06:44.080]  Yeah, the one thing that's really I guess I shouldn't be surprised at this stage, but
[01:06:44.080 --> 01:06:50.000]  you know, going there into the pretrial, you know, I have all my motions and everything
[01:06:50.000 --> 01:06:57.080]  and the judge basically denied every single one of my motions.
[01:06:57.080 --> 01:06:58.080]  Yes.
[01:06:58.080 --> 01:06:59.080]  And they will out of hand.
[01:06:59.080 --> 01:07:04.380]  If you find one of these lower court judges that can read, much less will read, good luck.
[01:07:04.380 --> 01:07:07.140]  You know, they don't care what the law says.
[01:07:07.140 --> 01:07:08.440]  They don't care what the law is.
[01:07:08.440 --> 01:07:11.600]  They care about the money that comes from the conviction.
[01:07:11.600 --> 01:07:19.520]  Go in there knowing that we do not go to trial on these issues with the intention of winning
[01:07:19.520 --> 01:07:24.540]  because winning is an illusion.
[01:07:24.540 --> 01:07:32.360]  If you win at trial in Texas on a Class C misdemeanor case of any kind, it will be sheer
[01:07:32.360 --> 01:07:33.980]  dumb luck.
[01:07:33.980 --> 01:07:37.060]  It will not be anything you did.
[01:07:37.060 --> 01:07:38.920]  The system is that rigged.
[01:07:38.920 --> 01:07:47.600]  The deck is that stacked and you are being railroaded that efficiently.
[01:07:47.600 --> 01:07:52.600]  So what you go in for is to make the record necessary to get the appeal on appealable
[01:07:52.600 --> 01:07:57.580]  error and deprivation of rights under color of law and those rights being violations of
[01:07:57.580 --> 01:07:59.100]  your due process.
[01:07:59.100 --> 01:08:03.980]  That's why you have to preserve them for the appeal by filing affidavits and written pleadings
[01:08:03.980 --> 01:08:07.800]  because if you're in a court of no record, that's the only thing the appellate court
[01:08:07.800 --> 01:08:09.800]  has to review.
[01:08:09.800 --> 01:08:11.540]  Correct.
[01:08:11.540 --> 01:08:16.680]  And then just one final thing, and I know there's other folks who are awaiting.
[01:08:16.680 --> 01:08:23.900]  Whenever the, basically whenever I lose this case, I'm wondering the proper way to go to
[01:08:23.900 --> 01:08:28.920]  the next step because would I go to the courts of appeals via...
[01:08:28.920 --> 01:08:30.320]  No, no, no.
[01:08:30.320 --> 01:08:31.320]  Okay.
[01:08:31.320 --> 01:08:32.800]  This is a municipal county.
[01:08:32.800 --> 01:08:34.800]  What court is this?
[01:08:34.800 --> 01:08:36.280]  County court at law.
[01:08:36.280 --> 01:08:37.500]  County court at law.
[01:08:37.500 --> 01:08:43.520]  Is this a de novo appeal from another court or is this an original jurisdiction court?
[01:08:43.520 --> 01:08:47.920]  It's supposed to be a de novo appeal, but they have done everything thus far treating
[01:08:47.920 --> 01:08:53.440]  it as an appeal from a court of record.
[01:08:53.440 --> 01:08:55.100]  Whoa.
[01:08:55.100 --> 01:09:00.320]  They're treating it as an appeal from a court of record when it was not a court of record?
[01:09:00.320 --> 01:09:01.320]  Yes.
[01:09:01.320 --> 01:09:02.320]  Okay.
[01:09:02.320 --> 01:09:05.200]  So how are they handling the issue of no transcript?
[01:09:05.200 --> 01:09:12.240]  Um, yeah, that's, uh, your guess is as good as mine.
[01:09:12.240 --> 01:09:13.240]  Okay.
[01:09:13.240 --> 01:09:14.240]  But that was one of my motions to...
[01:09:14.240 --> 01:09:16.640]  Now, that's not necessarily a bad thing.
[01:09:16.640 --> 01:09:17.820]  Don't get me wrong.
[01:09:17.820 --> 01:09:22.840]  The nice thing about them actually treating it as an appeal is the fact that they are
[01:09:22.840 --> 01:09:26.400]  required at that point to review the record.
[01:09:26.400 --> 01:09:30.800]  That includes your pleadings, which of course they're not going to read.
[01:09:30.800 --> 01:09:31.800]  Right.
[01:09:31.800 --> 01:09:37.600]  But the point of that is, is at what point do we get to bring up the trial court's due
[01:09:37.600 --> 01:09:42.640]  process violations if it's always treated as de novo and the County court refuses to
[01:09:42.640 --> 01:09:45.040]  look at what the other court did wrong?
[01:09:45.040 --> 01:09:47.840]  Oh, we don't care that they violated your rights.
[01:09:47.840 --> 01:09:49.120]  We're going to try you here.
[01:09:49.120 --> 01:09:51.880]  And when we railroad you, we'll do a much better job.
[01:09:51.880 --> 01:09:54.520]  Well, judge, there's a problem.
[01:09:54.520 --> 01:09:58.960]  You are not the court of original jurisdiction in this here de novo court.
[01:09:58.960 --> 01:10:03.840]  You don't have jurisdiction if the original court never had jurisdiction.
[01:10:03.840 --> 01:10:08.320]  And if you're not going to review the due process violations that deprive them of that
[01:10:08.320 --> 01:10:12.840]  jurisdiction, how am I supposed to get remedy for that?
[01:10:12.840 --> 01:10:18.160]  Well, the system is designed so that you cannot is exactly the point.
[01:10:18.160 --> 01:10:25.980]  Therefore, the state has a distinct advantage when they prosecute you in a no record court
[01:10:25.980 --> 01:10:30.460]  because that gives the state two bites at the same apple.
[01:10:30.460 --> 01:10:36.040]  They get to try to convict you twice, but the second time they are now privy to your
[01:10:36.040 --> 01:10:37.760]  battle plan.
[01:10:37.760 --> 01:10:40.440]  Everything you're going to say, everything you're going to do, all the evidence you're
[01:10:40.440 --> 01:10:44.440]  going to try to use to countermand what they do, and they will be better prepared for you
[01:10:44.440 --> 01:10:49.320]  the second time around to make sure that you're blocked and your information is not allowed
[01:10:49.320 --> 01:10:53.600]  to get onto the actual record for the purpose of appeal.
[01:10:53.600 --> 01:10:58.360]  There is no equal protection of the law on coming from a no record court versus a court
[01:10:58.360 --> 01:11:00.100]  of record.
[01:11:00.100 --> 01:11:05.360]  There just isn't because the state gets to whack you twice for free when you're coming
[01:11:05.360 --> 01:11:06.920]  from a court of no record.
[01:11:06.920 --> 01:11:07.920]  Right.
[01:11:07.920 --> 01:11:08.920]  Right.
[01:11:08.920 --> 01:11:09.920]  Yeah.
[01:11:09.920 --> 01:11:16.720]  My follow up question was coming out of county court of law to appeal that I see a document
[01:11:16.720 --> 01:11:21.120]  in here for a discretionary review with the court of appeals.
[01:11:21.120 --> 01:11:28.800]  Is that a necessary step to take or can it just go straight into filing?
[01:11:28.800 --> 01:11:31.640]  You have to follow the appellate procedure process.
[01:11:31.640 --> 01:11:35.680]  What I advise you to do right now is while you're getting prepared for this de novo screw
[01:11:35.680 --> 01:11:43.160]  you over, you thoroughly study the appellate procedures, the rules of appellate procedure.
[01:11:43.160 --> 01:11:47.380]  You start getting your documents formatted the way the rules call for, laid out the way
[01:11:47.380 --> 01:11:48.380]  they're called for.
[01:11:48.380 --> 01:11:49.640]  You do everything.
[01:11:49.640 --> 01:11:56.760]  You cross every T, you dot every I, then you go back and check them again, okay?
[01:11:56.760 --> 01:11:57.760]  You get it filed.
[01:11:57.760 --> 01:12:03.140]  You do not give them any reason to reject your appeal for anything other than you actually
[01:12:03.140 --> 01:12:07.960]  don't have an appealable error and we know that ain't going to happen.
[01:12:07.960 --> 01:12:08.960]  Right.
[01:12:08.960 --> 01:12:12.800]  All you've got to do is state the appealable error in a way that they're forced to consider
[01:12:12.800 --> 01:12:14.880]  it.
[01:12:14.880 --> 01:12:19.920]  And if you understand the rules that were violated by the courts and the rights associated
[01:12:19.920 --> 01:12:24.640]  with them that deprived you of due process and the type of harm that it caused, you have
[01:12:24.640 --> 01:12:26.120]  appealable error.
[01:12:26.120 --> 01:12:28.320]  All you have to do is get it down in writing.
[01:12:28.320 --> 01:12:29.320]  Okay.
[01:12:29.320 --> 01:12:32.960]  Well, what is the point of the discretionary review then?
[01:12:32.960 --> 01:12:36.720]  What's the point of that petition?
[01:12:36.720 --> 01:12:39.920]  Well again, read the rules of appellate procedure.
[01:12:39.920 --> 01:12:43.840]  Discretionary review is whether or not they want to hear it.
[01:12:43.840 --> 01:12:48.680]  But in these de novo cases and such like this, they don't actually have a choice as long
[01:12:48.680 --> 01:12:50.680]  as the appellate requirements are met.
[01:12:50.680 --> 01:12:57.020]  For instance, the court of appeals in Texas cannot hear an appeal that is less than a
[01:12:57.020 --> 01:13:04.320]  hundred dollars, if that's what the fine turns out to be, unless there are constitutional
[01:13:04.320 --> 01:13:10.560]  issues or jurisdictional issues raised at the time.
[01:13:10.560 --> 01:13:11.560]  They won't hear an appeal.
[01:13:11.560 --> 01:13:15.880]  In other words, Texas law is set up where as long as you get fined less than a hundred
[01:13:15.880 --> 01:13:20.800]  dollars, you have no recourse but to pay, or they'll take it from you by force again
[01:13:20.800 --> 01:13:25.080]  because you cannot appeal it regardless of anything else, no matter how many due process
[01:13:25.080 --> 01:13:27.080]  violations existed.
[01:13:27.080 --> 01:13:32.940]  So your only hope is to get a fine in excess of a hundred dollars at trial or to raise
[01:13:32.940 --> 01:13:39.800]  constitutional issues or to raise jurisdictional issues that can't be ignored later.
[01:13:39.800 --> 01:13:48.560]  Alright, alright, alright well cool you gave me a game plan and I got to get on it tomorrow
[01:13:48.560 --> 01:13:50.560]  bright and early.
[01:13:50.560 --> 01:13:51.560]  Alright well good luck man.
[01:13:51.560 --> 01:13:54.440]  Thanks for checking my call and thank you again.
[01:13:54.440 --> 01:13:58.040]  You're welcome, you have a great night, bye bye.
[01:13:58.040 --> 01:14:01.680]  Now we're going to go to Chris in California, Chris what do you got?
[01:14:01.680 --> 01:14:07.320]  Hey Eddie, that was the first time I've called her.
[01:14:07.320 --> 01:14:16.240]  I live in California, Thursday night I got a citation and I was wondering is this something
[01:14:16.240 --> 01:14:18.440]  I have to go to court for or is there a...
[01:14:18.440 --> 01:14:20.720]  Well I don't know, what kind of citation did you get?
[01:14:20.720 --> 01:14:24.560]  Chewing bubble gum in daylight after noon or what?
[01:14:24.560 --> 01:14:39.920]  I got a parking citation and they said, you know on the top of it says the vehicle described
[01:14:39.920 --> 01:14:50.960]  the load violation with the vehicle code but since I don't have a vehicle I was assuming
[01:14:50.960 --> 01:14:53.800]  the vehicle code doesn't apply to me.
[01:14:53.800 --> 01:14:59.880]  Well there are statutes that show that a motor vehicle in California, the California statutes
[01:14:59.880 --> 01:15:04.620]  when you get the definitions of each of the individual terms together it shows that it
[01:15:04.620 --> 01:15:10.160]  is for commercial only but what I will do is if you will send me an email that I can
[01:15:10.160 --> 01:15:16.640]  reply back to I will refer you to a friend of mine in California, his name is Kevin and
[01:15:16.640 --> 01:15:20.720]  he helps folks with that, I don't know what he charges, how much he charges, if he charges
[01:15:20.720 --> 01:15:26.000]  depending upon what it is or what information he can give you but he specifically helps
[01:15:26.000 --> 01:15:33.200]  with the parking stuff and towed cars and traffic citations and stuff like that specifically
[01:15:33.200 --> 01:15:38.480]  so you might want to give him a call in relation to the parking, I haven't looked a whole lot
[01:15:38.480 --> 01:15:42.560]  at the parking stuff but if it's based on anything in the motor vehicle code then yeah
[01:15:42.560 --> 01:15:47.160]  it's a transportation issue and it would not apply to you but if you don't know how to
[01:15:47.160 --> 01:15:51.800]  find the stuff you need to make the argument it's not going to help you much so send me
[01:15:51.800 --> 01:16:01.560]  an email to eddie at rule of law radio dot com and I will send you Kevin's contact information
[01:16:01.560 --> 01:16:02.560]  okay?
[01:16:02.560 --> 01:16:06.400]  Okay, I appreciate everything we've done Eddie.
[01:16:06.400 --> 01:16:08.000]  Sure, thanks I appreciate the call in.
[01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:11.000]  Bye-bye.
[01:16:11.000 --> 01:16:15.640]  Alright I've got about 40 seconds before I have to go to break, deliverance give me an
[01:16:15.640 --> 01:16:21.600]  idea of what you need and we'll finish you up on the other side.
[01:16:21.600 --> 01:16:27.480]  Hello deliverance in Oregon.
[01:16:27.480 --> 01:16:30.520]  Hello deliverance in Oregon.
[01:16:30.520 --> 01:16:36.560]  Alright hold that pose we'll deliver you back to the radio when we get back.
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[01:19:10.800 --> 01:19:40.480]  Thanks for watching and I'll see you in the next video.
[01:19:40.800 --> 01:19:43.720]  Alright folks, we are back.
[01:19:43.720 --> 01:19:48.760]  This is Rule of Law Radio and I'm going to see if deliverance in Oregon has picked back
[01:19:48.760 --> 01:19:49.760]  up yet.
[01:19:49.760 --> 01:19:50.760]  Deliverance, are you there?
[01:19:50.760 --> 01:19:51.760]  Hello.
[01:19:51.760 --> 01:19:52.760]  Hello.
[01:19:52.760 --> 01:19:53.760]  Hi.
[01:19:53.760 --> 01:19:54.760]  Hi.
[01:19:54.760 --> 01:19:55.760]  Sorry about that.
[01:19:55.760 --> 01:19:56.760]  That's okay.
[01:19:56.760 --> 01:20:01.760]  What can we do for you?
[01:20:01.760 --> 01:20:02.760]  Okay, hello.
[01:20:02.760 --> 01:20:13.720]  Well, I was just calling you because I received a...I had a trial date set for red light camera
[01:20:13.720 --> 01:20:22.000]  ticket violation and it was set for August...it was set at one point and then the officer
[01:20:22.000 --> 01:20:30.000]  had reset it and I got a letter like four days before and I just received a letter a
[01:20:30.000 --> 01:20:33.720]  couple of days ago that it was reset again.
[01:20:33.720 --> 01:20:42.480]  However, I noticed on here that it says, um, defendants and officers of either side may
[01:20:42.480 --> 01:20:50.240]  request one reset and it's reset again, but the first one says why, you know, that the
[01:20:50.240 --> 01:20:58.440]  officer had an emergency, but the second one, it just says, this is your notice of scheduled
[01:20:58.440 --> 01:21:01.280]  court appearance and it's a different date.
[01:21:01.280 --> 01:21:04.480]  Of what court appearance?
[01:21:04.480 --> 01:21:06.520]  Notice of my scheduled court appearance.
[01:21:06.520 --> 01:21:07.520]  Scheduled court appearance.
[01:21:07.520 --> 01:21:08.520]  Okay.
[01:21:08.520 --> 01:21:09.520]  For a second, I thought you said federal.
[01:21:09.520 --> 01:21:10.520]  I was going, wow.
[01:21:10.520 --> 01:21:11.520]  That's a hell of a red light ticket.
[01:21:11.520 --> 01:21:12.520]  No, that'd be bad.
[01:21:12.520 --> 01:21:13.520]  Yeah.
[01:21:13.520 --> 01:21:21.000]  So, I guess what I was wondering is, um, I'd like to just show up on the date that they
[01:21:21.000 --> 01:21:23.880]  gave me before and say, hey, you know...
[01:21:23.880 --> 01:21:26.680]  No, don't do that.
[01:21:26.680 --> 01:21:31.240]  Send in a written motion to dismiss.
[01:21:31.240 --> 01:21:33.440]  The officer has had his one reset.
[01:21:33.440 --> 01:21:36.360]  The second one is not recognized by law.
[01:21:36.360 --> 01:21:41.880]  Therefore, you demand a dismissal for failure to prosecute.
[01:21:41.880 --> 01:21:46.160]  Not that they're actually prosecuting because this is entirely an administrative thing,
[01:21:46.160 --> 01:21:48.520]  but the point is don't let them get away with it.
[01:21:48.520 --> 01:21:49.520]  Right.
[01:21:49.520 --> 01:21:53.880]  If the, if the law in your state specifically says they're allowed one reset and this is
[01:21:53.880 --> 01:21:57.160]  a second, then call them on it.
[01:21:57.160 --> 01:21:58.160]  Okay.
[01:21:58.160 --> 01:21:59.160]  All right.
[01:21:59.160 --> 01:22:01.160]  I will do that.
[01:22:01.160 --> 01:22:02.160]  Okay.
[01:22:02.160 --> 01:22:04.440]  Anything else we can do for you?
[01:22:04.440 --> 01:22:05.440]  No, thanks.
[01:22:05.440 --> 01:22:06.440]  Oh, no.
[01:22:06.440 --> 01:22:07.440]  That's perfect.
[01:22:07.440 --> 01:22:08.440]  Okay.
[01:22:08.440 --> 01:22:09.440]  Well, good luck.
[01:22:09.440 --> 01:22:10.440]  All right.
[01:22:10.440 --> 01:22:11.440]  All right.
[01:22:11.440 --> 01:22:12.440]  You have a good evening.
[01:22:12.440 --> 01:22:13.440]  You too.
[01:22:13.440 --> 01:22:14.440]  Bye.
[01:22:14.440 --> 01:22:15.440]  Bye.
[01:22:15.440 --> 01:22:16.440]  All right.
[01:22:16.440 --> 01:22:17.440]  Now we're going to go to Truthraider.
[01:22:17.440 --> 01:22:20.440]  Truthraider, what can we do for you?
[01:22:20.440 --> 01:22:21.440]  Hello.
[01:22:21.440 --> 01:22:22.440]  Hello.
[01:22:22.440 --> 01:22:23.440]  Hello, Eddie.
[01:22:23.440 --> 01:22:24.440]  I can.
[01:22:24.440 --> 01:22:28.040]  Was there a reason I couldn't before?
[01:22:28.040 --> 01:22:29.280]  My battery went dead.
[01:22:29.280 --> 01:22:30.280]  Ah, okay.
[01:22:30.280 --> 01:22:32.320]  Well, I guess that would explain a lot to you.
[01:22:32.320 --> 01:22:33.320]  Yeah.
[01:22:33.320 --> 01:22:34.880]  I had to jump on the backup phone.
[01:22:34.880 --> 01:22:36.440]  Okay, brother.
[01:22:36.440 --> 01:22:37.440]  Wow.
[01:22:37.440 --> 01:22:41.160]  It's a good thing a couple of those attorneys are calling in, but I tell you what, they
[01:22:41.160 --> 01:22:45.160]  need to go on down to Austin, Texas and sign up for the rule of law seminars that you have
[01:22:45.160 --> 01:22:48.480]  and get them straightened out before they represent anybody.
[01:22:48.480 --> 01:22:51.460]  That guy, if he didn't call in, would have screwed up his case.
[01:22:51.460 --> 01:22:54.560]  You know what would happen if a Texas attorney had to admit he didn't know what the hell
[01:22:54.560 --> 01:22:57.160]  the law actually says, right?
[01:22:57.160 --> 01:22:58.160]  Right.
[01:22:58.160 --> 01:23:01.520]  Everybody would be having a snowball fight in hell?
[01:23:01.520 --> 01:23:02.520]  Yeah.
[01:23:02.520 --> 01:23:03.520]  Yeah.
[01:23:03.520 --> 01:23:06.600]  They melt pretty quick too.
[01:23:06.600 --> 01:23:08.160]  All right, Eddie.
[01:23:08.160 --> 01:23:09.760]  Well, this is the Truthraider.
[01:23:09.760 --> 01:23:17.360]  The Truthraider, his mission is to bring the world the truth and bring in and expose lies
[01:23:17.360 --> 01:23:19.360]  and get into people's faces with the facts.
[01:23:19.360 --> 01:23:20.360]  That is my mission.
[01:23:20.360 --> 01:23:21.360]  Okay.
[01:23:21.360 --> 01:23:25.560]  Well, Eddie, I don't know if you recognize this or not.
[01:23:25.560 --> 01:23:29.160]  Maybe I can turn you on to a couple of things here that I've done in my research.
[01:23:29.160 --> 01:23:30.840]  I'm a fairly new researcher.
[01:23:30.840 --> 01:23:33.440]  I've only been studying for about eight or 10 years, and I'm just trying to put together
[01:23:33.440 --> 01:23:39.580]  all the facts, but there is an interesting video clip on YouTube.
[01:23:39.580 --> 01:23:43.080]  You might want to put it on mute when you go to it because it has a lot of loud music
[01:23:43.080 --> 01:23:47.840]  in it, so that's a bit distracting, but put it on mute and look at this.
[01:23:47.840 --> 01:23:49.840]  It's entitled on YouTube.
[01:23:49.840 --> 01:24:03.440]  So 30 little known facts about America, and it has 30 facts here with the references to
[01:24:03.440 --> 01:24:07.460]  prove where they come from, where they're backed up from, so I encourage you to check
[01:24:07.460 --> 01:24:08.460]  them out.
[01:24:08.460 --> 01:24:13.320]  See if you agree with them in the future, and I can talk to you sometime, maybe a month
[01:24:13.320 --> 01:24:16.200]  or so down the road if you've got a chance to take a peek at them and see if you agree
[01:24:16.200 --> 01:24:19.160]  with them or not on that.
[01:24:19.160 --> 01:24:22.480]  The United States, I don't know if you agree with this or not, but the United States really
[01:24:22.480 --> 01:24:25.240]  is a corporation.
[01:24:25.240 --> 01:24:30.400]  Well there are actually, from my own count, and I'm not sure I've exhausted that list
[01:24:30.400 --> 01:24:39.080]  by any means, there are 26 different things that the United States means and is.
[01:24:39.080 --> 01:24:47.960]  At least 26, so it's not just one, and it would be very presumptive to say that it is.
[01:24:47.960 --> 01:24:54.300]  It isn't, because everything about how they use these definitions is contextual.
[01:24:54.300 --> 01:25:00.820]  The context means everything about how it actually is defined.
[01:25:00.820 --> 01:25:06.360]  So saying the United States in every case is a corporation in relation to reading something
[01:25:06.360 --> 01:25:13.200]  in a statute, not a smart thing to do, because it is not always referring to the corporate
[01:25:13.200 --> 01:25:17.340]  entity, not always.
[01:25:17.340 --> 01:25:18.840]  That's an FYI for you.
[01:25:18.840 --> 01:25:19.840]  Alright, alright.
[01:25:19.840 --> 01:25:24.440]  A lot of information is going to come back my way about that, okay?
[01:25:24.440 --> 01:25:25.440]  Very good.
[01:25:25.440 --> 01:25:31.880]  Yeah, because at the beginning you were preaching, and you were on fire about what's going on
[01:25:31.880 --> 01:25:40.600]  in this country, how they've thrown out all of the constitutional laws that they're forced
[01:25:40.600 --> 01:25:41.600]  to abide by.
[01:25:41.600 --> 01:25:44.000]  Yeah, the limitations they're forced to abide by.
[01:25:44.000 --> 01:25:45.000]  Right.
[01:25:45.000 --> 01:25:46.000]  Exactly.
[01:25:46.000 --> 01:25:54.560]  And I had to call you on this and say that, well, because of the Federal Reserve System
[01:25:54.560 --> 01:26:02.440]  that they instituted in 1914, that puts us under a corporate control of the private Federal
[01:26:02.440 --> 01:26:08.960]  Reserve System, so that they pretty much trumped a lot of our constitutional rights, making
[01:26:08.960 --> 01:26:12.840]  us a constitutional republic.
[01:26:12.840 --> 01:26:20.120]  Well, I would agree that that's how the system is being handled.
[01:26:20.120 --> 01:26:24.800]  I would disagree that they've literally done it.
[01:26:24.800 --> 01:26:26.040]  You understand what I'm saying?
[01:26:26.040 --> 01:26:30.440]  They want us to believe they have, but that's only because most of the people have been
[01:26:30.440 --> 01:26:32.360]  indoctrinated into accepting that.
[01:26:32.360 --> 01:26:36.040]  I'm not one of those people.
[01:26:36.040 --> 01:26:41.120]  When you tell me that white is black or black is white, and I'm not colorblind, I've got
[01:26:41.120 --> 01:26:43.480]  an issue with whether or not you're telling me the truth.
[01:26:43.480 --> 01:26:45.740]  It's that simple.
[01:26:45.740 --> 01:26:49.520]  And a lot of the things that I've been taught in my life about, this is America, this is
[01:26:49.520 --> 01:26:54.360]  what it means to be American, this is what freedom is, this is what rights are, does
[01:26:54.360 --> 01:26:59.260]  not gel well with what's actually happening, hence the whole reason I ask these questions
[01:26:59.260 --> 01:27:03.160]  and make these challenges and do these things.
[01:27:03.160 --> 01:27:08.160]  As Burt Reynolds said in a very famous one liner of a movie known as The Best Little
[01:27:08.160 --> 01:27:13.000]  Whorehouse in Texas, I can tell when somebody's pissing on my boots and telling me it's a
[01:27:13.000 --> 01:27:14.000]  rainstorm.
[01:27:14.000 --> 01:27:23.760]  In layman's terms, yeah, that's pretty poignant to say.
[01:27:23.760 --> 01:27:24.760]  It is.
[01:27:24.760 --> 01:27:27.960]  But yeah, I mean, I understand where you're coming from, believe me.
[01:27:27.960 --> 01:27:33.780]  And it's not so much that they've actually replaced it as they've convinced people that
[01:27:33.780 --> 01:27:38.880]  they have that what the illusion they're living is actually the real thing.
[01:27:38.880 --> 01:27:41.980]  They've got it set up very well in a house of mirrors.
[01:27:41.980 --> 01:27:44.900]  When you're looking this way and think you're seeing one thing, you're really seeing the
[01:27:44.900 --> 01:27:50.800]  reflection of what they want you to see that looks similar but isn't really the same.
[01:27:50.800 --> 01:27:58.720]  They've turned our whole nation into a constitutional and legislative funhouse.
[01:27:58.720 --> 01:28:01.320]  And turned it into a ball of confusion in the process.
[01:28:01.320 --> 01:28:05.200]  Well, that's the thing about funhouses, that's generally the point.
[01:28:05.200 --> 01:28:11.000]  Okay, I have one more item to share with you and then I do have a question.
[01:28:11.000 --> 01:28:16.360]  My item is I was working over on the west side of the city of Portland.
[01:28:16.360 --> 01:28:23.120]  The west side and the environs just south of there is the upscale district of the Portland
[01:28:23.120 --> 01:28:25.320]  metro area.
[01:28:25.320 --> 01:28:28.640]  And there's a suburb town called Beaverton.
[01:28:28.640 --> 01:28:37.520]  And over there, you see Mercedes and Porsches and Lexes and Bugattis and Maseratis and Lamborghinis
[01:28:37.520 --> 01:28:39.920]  and Ferraris over there.
[01:28:39.920 --> 01:28:43.320]  And they live pretty well, nice condos and everything.
[01:28:43.320 --> 01:28:50.000]  And this is the only place where I found on the west side that they're doing these violations
[01:28:50.000 --> 01:28:54.180]  by law enforcement, the color of law violations on the public over there.
[01:28:54.180 --> 01:29:02.640]  They set up a van, a speed van, you've seen them, where they have a digital clock there
[01:29:02.640 --> 01:29:05.360]  with your speed.
[01:29:05.360 --> 01:29:10.320]  And of course, they had a motor cop with a laser gun sitting there when I was going out
[01:29:10.320 --> 01:29:14.360]  to get some lunch when I was working over there in an event over there on the west side.
[01:29:14.360 --> 01:29:17.080]  And I said, wow, okay, there it is.
[01:29:17.080 --> 01:29:18.080]  They have this over here.
[01:29:18.080 --> 01:29:23.760]  So it's no coincidence that they're trying to get money out of the people where the money
[01:29:23.760 --> 01:29:24.760]  is at.
[01:29:24.760 --> 01:29:25.760]  Oh, yeah.
[01:29:25.760 --> 01:29:26.760]  Exactly.
[01:29:26.760 --> 01:29:30.720]  So I don't see any of that over here, but over there in that particular jurisdiction,
[01:29:30.720 --> 01:29:32.720]  that particular agency doing that.
[01:29:32.720 --> 01:29:33.720]  Yeah.
[01:29:33.720 --> 01:29:34.720]  Okay.
[01:29:34.720 --> 01:29:35.720]  I have my question coming up.
[01:29:35.720 --> 01:29:36.720]  I'm going on to the break here.
[01:29:36.720 --> 01:29:37.720]  Yeah.
[01:29:37.720 --> 01:29:39.720]  If you'll hang on, we'll get your question on the other side.
[01:29:39.720 --> 01:29:40.720]  Okay.
[01:29:40.720 --> 01:29:41.720]  All right.
[01:29:41.720 --> 01:29:42.720]  All right, folks.
[01:29:42.720 --> 01:29:43.720]  This is Rule of Law Radio.
[01:29:43.720 --> 01:29:45.440]  I am your host, Eddie Craig.
[01:29:45.440 --> 01:29:48.760]  We got a couple or we got two more segments left in the show.
[01:29:48.760 --> 01:29:55.760]  I've got Truthreader and Sam up for calls, I may need somebody else, 512-646-1984.
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[01:33:33.800 --> 01:33:34.800]  We are back.
[01:33:34.800 --> 01:33:38.840]  This is Rule of Law Radio, and we are talking to Truth Rater.
[01:33:38.840 --> 01:33:40.840]  All right, Rater, go ahead.
[01:33:40.840 --> 01:33:45.560]  Well, Eddie, I just want to tell you this before I get onto the question.
[01:33:45.560 --> 01:33:47.840]  I do endorse your show quite a bit.
[01:33:47.840 --> 01:33:51.400]  I go out, and I tell as many people as much as possible, do you realize that you don't
[01:33:51.400 --> 01:33:54.400]  have to have a driver's license if you're not engaging in commerce?
[01:33:54.400 --> 01:33:58.720]  And then I tell them what your show is, and I plug the site.
[01:33:58.720 --> 01:33:59.720]  So...
[01:33:59.720 --> 01:34:00.720]  Yeah.
[01:34:00.720 --> 01:34:01.720] ... I get more calls from Oregon.
[01:34:01.720 --> 01:34:02.720]  Definitely appreciate that.
[01:34:02.720 --> 01:34:03.720]  Yeah.
[01:34:03.720 --> 01:34:04.720]  Yep.
[01:34:04.720 --> 01:34:08.800]  So I think... I don't know who Deliverance is, but perhaps she was one of the people
[01:34:08.800 --> 01:34:11.160]  I might have turned her onto the show.
[01:34:11.160 --> 01:34:12.780]  Well, that's good to know.
[01:34:12.780 --> 01:34:16.160]  I don't know if that's the first time they've called in or not, but either way, works for
[01:34:16.160 --> 01:34:18.080]  me and hopefully for them.
[01:34:18.080 --> 01:34:19.080]  Excellent.
[01:34:19.080 --> 01:34:20.080]  Excellent.
[01:34:20.080 --> 01:34:22.080]  Now I'm going to get onto the question here.
[01:34:22.080 --> 01:34:23.680]  Okay.
[01:34:23.680 --> 01:34:28.020]  I've already put in the notice of cancellation for my own insurance.
[01:34:28.020 --> 01:34:33.080]  The premium did go out of my checking account electronically already, so I'm good till about
[01:34:33.080 --> 01:34:36.560]  the middle part of September, and then the policy will be canceled.
[01:34:36.560 --> 01:34:37.560]  Okay.
[01:34:37.560 --> 01:34:43.600]  At that point, within 30 to 60 days, I'm sure I'll get a notice from the state, Department
[01:34:43.600 --> 01:34:49.480]  of Motor Vehicles, saying that intent to suspend license if I don't show proof of financial
[01:34:49.480 --> 01:34:50.480]  responsibility.
[01:34:50.480 --> 01:34:55.560]  So when that time happens, when I receive that notice, at that point, do I have any
[01:34:55.560 --> 01:34:56.560]  damages?
[01:34:56.560 --> 01:35:00.440]  No, you do not.
[01:35:00.440 --> 01:35:06.920]  See, the thing here is, what you have is you have, unless of course the license is associated
[01:35:06.920 --> 01:35:12.280]  with your livelihood, because they can't arbitrarily suspend the license without due process if
[01:35:12.280 --> 01:35:14.180]  it's related to livelihood.
[01:35:14.180 --> 01:35:17.400]  The federal courts have ruled on that time and time again.
[01:35:17.400 --> 01:35:20.380]  But the issue for the harm here is this.
[01:35:20.380 --> 01:35:24.740]  One of the conditions associated with having the license and the privilege of using it
[01:35:24.740 --> 01:35:27.320]  is to meet the financial responsibility requirements.
[01:35:27.320 --> 01:35:28.320]  Okay.
[01:35:28.320 --> 01:35:34.520]  Now, it would be one thing if the license expired naturally on its own.
[01:35:34.520 --> 01:35:40.320]  How can they suspend that which was, by law, already a dead issue?
[01:35:40.320 --> 01:35:41.880]  Okay.
[01:35:41.880 --> 01:35:49.320]  Whereas, if they suspend it, now if they find you on the road, they've increased the level
[01:35:49.320 --> 01:35:56.680]  of offense they can charge you with and thus create an additional harm to you, then you
[01:35:56.680 --> 01:36:02.480]  would have damages, okay, if you can prove and make the argument that you were not using
[01:36:02.480 --> 01:36:06.720]  a license because you were not engaged in commerce, therefore the arrest and charges
[01:36:06.720 --> 01:36:10.220]  and the fines and everything that went with it was illegal.
[01:36:10.220 --> 01:36:15.920]  The problem is that's a tough fight to make unless you start from the very beginning with
[01:36:15.920 --> 01:36:22.160]  a not in transportation issue and do it all correctly because every single issue you've
[01:36:22.160 --> 01:36:27.560]  got to word exactly the right way or the court will convert it from a non-transportation
[01:36:27.560 --> 01:36:29.120]  issue to a transportation issue.
[01:36:29.120 --> 01:36:32.980]  I have read case law after case law after case law where they've done that.
[01:36:32.980 --> 01:36:37.460]  The person is arguing in violation of the use of the terminology because it requires
[01:36:37.460 --> 01:36:42.160]  conclusions and evidence that were never submitted to the court and yet the appeals court is
[01:36:42.160 --> 01:36:46.700]  using that terminology as if that's the only way for the case to go and we know darn well
[01:36:46.700 --> 01:36:49.960]  it isn't.
[01:36:49.960 --> 01:36:56.160]  So you cannot count on the courts to do the right thing, not at this day and age.
[01:36:56.160 --> 01:36:59.960]  That's one of the reasons why we have to go to the source of what's causing this problem.
[01:36:59.960 --> 01:37:04.160]  It's not the codes, it's the people that write them.
[01:37:04.160 --> 01:37:07.460]  Correct.
[01:37:07.460 --> 01:37:13.240]  It would be extremely easy for them to put at the very beginning of the code, any of
[01:37:13.240 --> 01:37:19.780]  them, the terms of this code and all statutes inside of it apply only to those using the
[01:37:19.780 --> 01:37:27.340]  roads for commercial purposes but they can't steal money hand over fist from every member
[01:37:27.340 --> 01:37:32.240]  of society if they admit that's the limit of their authority.
[01:37:32.240 --> 01:37:37.800]  By convincing everybody that they have to be part of this system this way they can steal
[01:37:37.800 --> 01:37:43.500]  money just nobody questions it.
[01:37:43.500 --> 01:37:48.960]  So no matter how you do this that's going to be an uphill fight because nobody wants
[01:37:48.960 --> 01:37:52.600]  to give up the money they're stealing, nobody.
[01:37:52.600 --> 01:37:57.080]  Even a burglar when he gets used to robbing the same houses successfully night after night
[01:37:57.080 --> 01:38:01.640]  after night and no one's challenged him it's not going to be too long before he walks us
[01:38:01.640 --> 01:38:06.240]  in in broad daylight demanding they turn the stuff over because he's been so successful
[01:38:06.240 --> 01:38:09.440]  at it.
[01:38:09.440 --> 01:38:11.840]  Well that's where we are.
[01:38:11.840 --> 01:38:17.120]  Yep these burgers have been quite successful at it.
[01:38:17.120 --> 01:38:25.620]  Now proactively Eddie when I do get this threat in the mail from the DMV should I be proactive
[01:38:25.620 --> 01:38:31.040]  and go to the DMV and tell them hey I'm not engaging in transportation?
[01:38:31.040 --> 01:38:36.240]  You can do that but the question is are you going to be able to make them admit that that's
[01:38:36.240 --> 01:38:38.480]  the only way the license applies?
[01:38:38.480 --> 01:38:42.800]  Now let's see you're in where are you you're in Oregon?
[01:38:42.800 --> 01:38:43.800]  I'm in Oregon.
[01:38:43.800 --> 01:38:48.600]  Okay if I'm not mistaken the Oregon statutes are extremely close to the Washington state
[01:38:48.600 --> 01:38:53.920]  statutes and they also make it clear that it applies to commercial only.
[01:38:53.920 --> 01:38:57.840]  All you got to do is find that.
[01:38:57.840 --> 01:39:02.840]  You find that you go to the department that issues the licenses you go the ones that issue
[01:39:02.840 --> 01:39:07.640]  the tags you go the one that that says you got to have insurance if it's a motor vehicle
[01:39:07.640 --> 01:39:13.440]  well fine I'm not saying it doesn't but mine is not a motor vehicle here's your own statutes
[01:39:13.440 --> 01:39:18.360]  that proves it's not a motor vehicle and that I'm not a driver leave me alone because anything
[01:39:18.360 --> 01:39:22.720]  you do from this point forward will result in a lawsuit.
[01:39:22.720 --> 01:39:26.880]  Sure you can do that you can be proactive but do you have the necessary information
[01:39:26.880 --> 01:39:29.120]  to succeed at being proactive?
[01:39:29.120 --> 01:39:30.120]  That's going to be your question.
[01:39:30.120 --> 01:39:35.560]  Yeah that's what I'm going to try to do I'm going to try to get that information and take
[01:39:35.560 --> 01:39:38.880]  that up there as soon as it comes so I have a good at least a good window of three months
[01:39:38.880 --> 01:39:45.680]  perhaps before this could happen but you could send me this threatening letter in the mail.
[01:39:45.680 --> 01:39:46.680]  Yeah well good luck.
[01:39:46.680 --> 01:39:52.200]  All right Eddie that's all I got right now I'll let you get on to the other other callers
[01:39:52.200 --> 01:39:56.760]  there okay to the other callers and thanks again we'll talk to you in the weeks to come.
[01:39:56.760 --> 01:39:58.440]  Yes sir you have a good evening thanks for calling in.
[01:39:58.440 --> 01:39:59.440]  You too Rob.
[01:39:59.440 --> 01:40:00.440]  All right bye-bye.
[01:40:00.440 --> 01:40:01.440]  Bye-bye.
[01:40:01.440 --> 01:40:06.920]  All right now we're going to go to Sam in North Dakota Sam what can we do for you?
[01:40:06.920 --> 01:40:07.920]  Can you hear me okay?
[01:40:07.920 --> 01:40:08.920]  I can.
[01:40:08.920 --> 01:40:15.000]  Okay my question is on the fruit of the poisonous tree doctor thing when they charge you with
[01:40:15.000 --> 01:40:21.200]  an infraction that's non-criminal where do you make the argument in a motion like a suppress
[01:40:21.200 --> 01:40:24.080]  motion or wait the trial?
[01:40:24.080 --> 01:40:29.320]  Yeah it'll be a motion to suppress or motion to dismiss.
[01:40:29.320 --> 01:40:33.220]  You can use it in either of them the point of it being that fruit of the poison tree
[01:40:33.220 --> 01:40:39.780]  doctrine is the result of any evidence or information being used against you was illegally
[01:40:39.780 --> 01:40:45.240]  obtained because the premise used to make the arrest or the stop or whatever that allowed
[01:40:45.240 --> 01:40:51.000]  it to be discovered was itself illegal.
[01:40:51.000 --> 01:40:58.560]  No it's it's a non-criminal right and if like I'm saying if they seized you in other words
[01:40:58.560 --> 01:41:04.600]  they stopped you for the specific purpose of do of charging you with an infraction that's
[01:41:04.600 --> 01:41:11.080]  an illegal seizure if it's an infraction and it's civil that's an illegal seizure they
[01:41:11.080 --> 01:41:15.840]  didn't have a warrant they didn't have a criminal probable cause they didn't have any reasonable
[01:41:15.840 --> 01:41:20.200]  suspicion of criminal activity because the act isn't a crime.
[01:41:20.200 --> 01:41:26.400]  So they could not under any circumstances of due process even begin to get a warrant
[01:41:26.400 --> 01:41:32.460]  to make an arrest for that purpose because there was no crime to base the statement of
[01:41:32.460 --> 01:41:35.800]  probable cause on to get the warrant.
[01:41:35.800 --> 01:41:41.220]  So an infraction as far as what they're doing legally speaking is pretty much useless because
[01:41:41.220 --> 01:41:47.960]  they can't seize you under it it's civil but they're doing it and people that don't know
[01:41:47.960 --> 01:41:53.600]  that it's illegal that's how they get their money out of them.
[01:41:53.600 --> 01:41:58.360]  So yeah you put it in a motion to suppress you put it in a motion to dismiss the search
[01:41:58.360 --> 01:42:04.120]  was illegal because the stop was illegal the citation was illegal as fruit of the poison
[01:42:04.120 --> 01:42:09.400]  tree blah blah blah because this was a civil infraction there was no probable cause there
[01:42:09.400 --> 01:42:14.720]  was no reasonable suspicion there was no warrant at least you have it preserved for appeal
[01:42:14.720 --> 01:42:21.800]  in any way correct okay okay so i would put it in every document where it could be pertinent
[01:42:21.800 --> 01:42:28.720]  a motion to dismiss as well as a motion to suppress okay all right well i guess that's
[01:42:28.720 --> 01:42:33.960]  really all i had so okay i guess i'll let somebody else call all right well i appreciate
[01:42:33.960 --> 01:42:41.660]  you calling in sam yep bye bye bye all right now we're going to go to rob in illinois rob
[01:42:41.660 --> 01:42:46.960]  what can we do for you hello eddie i would like to comment real fast uh you were talking
[01:42:46.960 --> 01:42:52.080]  about the united states all the 26 different definitions and uh there's a guy out there
[01:42:52.080 --> 01:42:58.760]  uh his name is thomas clark nelson have you heard of him not that i can think of okay
[01:42:58.760 --> 01:43:02.520]  if anybody wants to just go online look up thomas clark nelson he's got a bunch of stuff
[01:43:02.520 --> 01:43:08.520]  at archive.org and he's got a lot of information on this and i'll make it short here it says
[01:43:08.520 --> 01:43:13.960]  here under the homeland security act of 2002 and there's section two with definitions it
[01:43:13.960 --> 01:43:22.200]  says number 14 the term state means any state of the united states the district of columbia
[01:43:22.200 --> 01:43:28.040]  the commonwealth of puerto rico the virgin islands guam american Samoa the commonwealth
[01:43:28.040 --> 01:43:33.760]  of no of the northern mariana islands and any possession of the united states yeah but
[01:43:33.760 --> 01:43:38.760]  state of the united states is not defined that's one of those oxymoron definitions where
[01:43:38.760 --> 01:43:43.520]  they use the term being defined within the term as another definition for the term it's
[01:43:43.520 --> 01:43:48.120]  a circular argument term hang on just a second rob we're gonna take a break and we'll be
[01:43:48.120 --> 01:43:53.720]  right back all right folks this is money night rule of law radio show your host eddie craig
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[01:46:24.200 --> 01:46:30.020]  alright folks we are back this is rule of law radio all right we are talking with rob
[01:46:30.020 --> 01:46:37.100]  in illinois all right rob yeah eddie i wanted to continue here again he goes into uh it
[01:46:37.100 --> 01:46:43.160]  was uh thomas clark nelson goes into the term of the united states and this is in the homeland
[01:46:43.160 --> 01:46:49.200]  security act and like i said they're all circular definitions they all mean the same uh it says
[01:46:49.200 --> 01:46:55.720]  here you get into the national defense authorization act it's the same thing uh same thing with
[01:46:55.720 --> 01:47:02.600]  the title 26 internal revenue code the the term state includes the district of columbia
[01:47:02.600 --> 01:47:07.240]  the commonwealth of puerto rico the virgin islands guam and american samoa around and
[01:47:07.240 --> 01:47:13.800]  round we go so it's uh it's all in there they're all pretty much the same but as you were saying
[01:47:13.800 --> 01:47:20.560]  there's probably 25 other definitions of state and united states out there as well yes there
[01:47:20.560 --> 01:47:25.320]  are in fact you will notice you will recognize when they're actually talking about one of
[01:47:25.320 --> 01:47:30.520]  the states of the union federal code specifically defined and i found two different ways there
[01:47:30.520 --> 01:47:35.600]  may be more but these are the two i know for a fact exist you will see where it says the
[01:47:35.600 --> 01:47:42.640]  union of several states and you will see where it says the 50 states of the union that you
[01:47:42.640 --> 01:47:48.520]  know which what it's referring to when it's that is part of the definition of state if
[01:47:48.520 --> 01:47:54.480]  it does not contain that a state of the united states is not one of the several states of
[01:47:54.480 --> 01:48:04.000]  the union never has been never will be they specifically say uh the 50 states of the union
[01:48:04.000 --> 01:48:08.780]  or uh one of the states of the several states of the union that's exactly how they define
[01:48:08.780 --> 01:48:13.720]  it so you know when they're talking about texas or washington or oregon or something
[01:48:13.720 --> 01:48:23.240]  like that versus a federal territorial jurisdiction that they're calling a state yeah and i think
[01:48:23.240 --> 01:48:27.220]  that's how they're weaseling their way around oh that's absolutely how they're doing it
[01:48:27.220 --> 01:48:34.400]  and that's exactly why a lawyer interpreting statute that's just it's stupid because a
[01:48:34.400 --> 01:48:39.360]  lawyer will be the first one to go to court and argue it to the left and then when you're
[01:48:39.360 --> 01:48:43.440]  sitting there asking the lawyer questions and pointing out why that doesn't work he's
[01:48:43.440 --> 01:48:47.760]  going to argue it to the right in order to throw you off of what he thinks he wants that
[01:48:47.760 --> 01:48:53.160]  you know or don't know there i mean there is no more two-faced individual on the planet
[01:48:53.160 --> 01:48:59.700]  in most cases than a lawyer i'm saying that there are some good ones but i've only talked
[01:48:59.700 --> 01:49:05.720]  to maybe two i don't know it i'm sure that there are lawyers that want to do the right
[01:49:05.720 --> 01:49:09.920]  thing but i've yet to meet one i may have talked to a couple on the show at least it
[01:49:09.920 --> 01:49:16.760]  sounds like i have but unfortunately and of most surprisingly they're in california all
[01:49:16.760 --> 01:49:20.800]  the other ones i know of got disbarred because they stood up for doing the right thing so
[01:49:20.800 --> 01:49:31.720]  technically calling him a lawyer anymore isn't proper yeah well this is a very good uh document
[01:49:31.720 --> 01:49:36.000]  he put together it's like 27 pages and he goes into all this stuff and it's amazing
[01:49:36.000 --> 01:49:41.120]  that we think the united states means all all the 50 union states when it actually doesn't
[01:49:41.120 --> 01:49:46.680]  mean that it's just their words of trickery are just unbelievable oh yeah i agree you
[01:49:46.680 --> 01:49:52.080]  will get no argument from me yeah and that's why you got the patriot act oh these these
[01:49:52.080 --> 01:49:55.760]  laws only apply to the united states well the united states is the district of columbia
[01:49:55.760 --> 01:50:03.640]  and all of its territories it's not out here on the uh 50 uh 50 union states yeah i agree
[01:50:03.640 --> 01:50:09.240]  and i i have said exactly that for a long time that the fed was never given power has
[01:50:09.240 --> 01:50:15.660]  no jurisdiction to write a law of any kind directly affecting the people within the actual
[01:50:15.660 --> 01:50:21.200]  states of the union they can't they're not given any the only nexus for the fed to write
[01:50:21.200 --> 01:50:26.740]  a law directly impacting the people of the states is in the commerce clause itself at
[01:50:26.740 --> 01:50:32.060]  least that's the way the courts have interpreted it now my straight up reading of it is this
[01:50:32.060 --> 01:50:37.060]  if we're limiting government power and authority to do something then you can't say the commerce
[01:50:37.060 --> 01:50:42.720]  clause can be used to circumvent everything else that we forbade you can't do that and
[01:50:42.720 --> 01:50:48.280]  under those strict conditions the only reasonable interpretation of the commerce clause is the
[01:50:48.280 --> 01:50:54.040]  fed can prevent the states from creating monopolies denying other states ability to access their
[01:50:54.040 --> 01:51:01.080]  internal markets or to uh charge levies and fees and taxes on imports coming in out into
[01:51:01.080 --> 01:51:06.480]  or out of any other state that's the limit of the federal authority there's nothing in
[01:51:06.480 --> 01:51:11.120]  that in that in that clause in my opinion that allows them to reach within a state and
[01:51:11.120 --> 01:51:18.880]  touch a manufacturer and say you must do it this way you must follow follow OSHA standards
[01:51:18.880 --> 01:51:25.400]  you must do the federal thing there's no authority for that there absolutely isn't the courts
[01:51:25.400 --> 01:51:37.420]  lawyers are the reason we are there not common sense lawyers yep hey do you have any more
[01:51:37.420 --> 01:51:43.500]  callers waiting uh i do in fact two okay two okay i'll keep this real short then uh he
[01:51:43.500 --> 01:51:46.740]  goes on to say this i got one sentence to read and then something to tell you about
[01:51:46.740 --> 01:51:53.460]  the red light cameras he says as of july 4th 1776 till the advent of social security no
[01:51:53.460 --> 01:52:00.200]  legislature has general power of personal legislative jurisdiction over any american
[01:52:00.200 --> 01:52:06.140]  residing within the exterior limits of any union state except as history tells us those
[01:52:06.140 --> 01:52:12.480]  that can be bamboozled into believing that they reside in a state of the united states
[01:52:12.480 --> 01:52:18.840]  and there are and therefore our subject of legislation that mentions these words exactly
[01:52:18.840 --> 01:52:26.960]  hence the ambiguity of the phrase in every code in every state this state this state
[01:52:26.960 --> 01:52:33.640]  is not defined in any code so what is it talking about what is this state where the mistake
[01:52:33.640 --> 01:52:39.720]  comes in as people presume this state is actually talking about the interior territorial boundaries
[01:52:39.720 --> 01:52:49.140]  of where they live and it isn't it absolutely isn't if the bible numbers 1530 talks about
[01:52:49.140 --> 01:52:55.320]  presumption we shouldn't presume exactly all right rod you got anything else yeah one real
[01:52:55.320 --> 01:53:01.200]  fast thing last week made it on uh abc channel 7 news the red light cameras are taking a
[01:53:01.200 --> 01:53:07.480]  lot of heat here for chicago and uh the judge was thrown out a whole bunch of them because
[01:53:07.480 --> 01:53:12.840]  the yellow lights were 2.5 seconds when they should be three yeah exactly they're they're
[01:53:12.840 --> 01:53:18.440]  cheating okay give me a government solution and i will show you a government theft in
[01:53:18.440 --> 01:53:28.640]  action it's that simple yep red flex this corporation is just uh they are that i from
[01:53:28.640 --> 01:53:32.120]  what i've heard they've admitted to all this corruption bribing people why are these red
[01:53:32.120 --> 01:53:36.920]  light cameras still here after all this stuff because there's money for the local politicians
[01:53:36.920 --> 01:53:45.560]  and keeping them in place that's why oh that's that's a good reason at least from their perspective
[01:53:45.560 --> 01:53:50.400]  exactly all right let me grab these other callers rob all right thank you eddie you're
[01:53:50.400 --> 01:53:56.120]  welcome bye-bye okay all right now we're going to go to robert in texas robert what do you
[01:53:56.120 --> 01:54:03.720]  got well uh i sent you my copy of my citation remember via email um you know it didn't meet
[01:54:03.720 --> 01:54:12.080]  the uh was at the 7 0 7 0 8.105 okay when did you what did you send that from what email
[01:54:12.080 --> 01:54:26.880]  address i sent it to uh no not to from or was from uh das munda at the sbc well you
[01:54:26.880 --> 01:54:29.360]  know but um you know you answered me and said it was illegal because and it's it's right
[01:54:29.360 --> 01:54:34.920]  it doesn't have the that you know a conviction of an offense under the traffic law it's or
[01:54:34.920 --> 01:54:41.000]  you know that yeah exactly the 7 0 8.105 statement that's required to be the largest typeface
[01:54:41.000 --> 01:54:46.480]  on the citation and it's not an option it's not a possibility it's not a could have should
[01:54:46.480 --> 01:54:52.840]  have it is an absolute must according to the statute yeah well you know i got pulled over
[01:54:52.840 --> 01:54:59.520]  because of quote speeding you know and and i you know i i had your script all in my head
[01:54:59.520 --> 01:55:04.960]  and i didn't even get that far in the script because um you know the guy wanted my id and
[01:55:04.960 --> 01:55:09.880]  all this and and proof of insurance and i said well sir for the record i'm not engaged
[01:55:09.880 --> 01:55:14.640]  in transportation at this time you acknowledge this and he's like well what are you doing
[01:55:14.640 --> 01:55:18.880]  then i see you driving i said no sir i'm not driving i said uh well let me give you my
[01:55:18.880 --> 01:55:22.980]  name uh you know i asked him if i was unrest or free to go he says well you're not free
[01:55:22.980 --> 01:55:27.920]  to go i said okay well i assume i'm under arrest then he goes well you are being detained
[01:55:27.920 --> 01:55:32.600]  i said well i i'm assuming that i'm under arrest being that i'm not free to go and if
[01:55:32.600 --> 01:55:37.560]  i'm under arrest i invoke my rights uh not to give you any information and criminate
[01:55:37.560 --> 01:55:43.240]  myself or you know that can be used against me in the court of law so i with that my name
[01:55:43.240 --> 01:55:48.680]  is robert parsons and i give him you know my address whatever and my address and date
[01:55:48.680 --> 01:55:53.440]  of birth and i said that's all i'm required to give you sir so you know if you have a
[01:55:53.440 --> 01:55:57.520]  citation let me sign it be on my way because i'm on my way to work and i really don't have
[01:55:57.520 --> 01:56:02.560]  time for this though uh with that he went ahead and opened my door and he he took me
[01:56:02.560 --> 01:56:06.840]  out and put handcuffs on me and then i i demanded to see a magistrate immediately and he says
[01:56:06.840 --> 01:56:12.320]  no you're gonna wait there till i my supervisor gets here well you know okay well good you've
[01:56:12.320 --> 01:56:18.080]  got a lawsuit against the cop now yeah i mean well you know i immediately demanded to be
[01:56:18.080 --> 01:56:22.880]  taken before the magistrate and he said nope you're gonna wait for my supervisor even after
[01:56:22.880 --> 01:56:27.620]  i signed the citation i said well look i really gotta go i signed the citation technically
[01:56:27.620 --> 01:56:34.220]  i'm free to go okay if he held you after you signed the citation and the stop was concluded
[01:56:34.220 --> 01:56:43.080]  now he's in real trouble clean up to his fake hairline yeah and i i told him i said well
[01:56:43.080 --> 01:56:48.640]  are you guys going to fabricate any more uh offenses that i've done because so far that's
[01:56:48.640 --> 01:56:52.480]  all you've done here i said i've done nothing wrong i've committed no crime i've been arrested
[01:56:52.480 --> 01:56:58.760]  without a warrant uh i've asked to see the magistrate and and you haven't taken me before
[01:56:58.760 --> 01:57:03.200]  him i said uh and now you know they said well you're not going until you give us a fingerprint
[01:57:03.200 --> 01:57:08.480]  i said sir i've invoked my rights i've already signed your citation there is absolutely no
[01:57:08.480 --> 01:57:13.280]  authority for them to take fingerprints on the side of the road for any reason no law
[01:57:13.280 --> 01:57:21.280]  exists for that if you don't sue these guys i am going to be so disappointed in you well
[01:57:21.280 --> 01:57:28.360]  i'm i'm new at this city but you know this will be my second time going before these
[01:57:28.360 --> 01:57:33.200]  guys uh you know on a speeding uh you know speeding allegation and the first time i got
[01:57:33.200 --> 01:57:37.760]  kangarooed and didn't have the money to appeal and you know i'm sorry for that because i
[01:57:37.760 --> 01:57:42.880]  realize i'm not in this just for myself it's for everybody we're trying to do this um but
[01:57:42.880 --> 01:57:47.920]  this one um i'm gonna try my best you know but i had some questions to ask you but it
[01:57:47.920 --> 01:57:51.920]  sounds like you're going off the yeah we're out of time sorry about that if you got some
[01:57:51.920 --> 01:57:55.840]  questions you need answers to i'll see what i can do shoot me an email with them okay
[01:57:55.840 --> 01:58:02.000]  okay i'll do that eddie all right robert thanks for calling in dallas fred i am so sorry guys
[01:58:02.000 --> 01:58:08.800]  we are out of time if this is something important please send me an email eddie eddie at rule
[01:58:08.800 --> 01:58:14.640]  of law radio.com and i will get back with you as quickly as i can uh please remember
[01:58:14.640 --> 01:58:20.920]  i am in and out an awful lot here lately with things going on so i'm not right here to answer
[01:58:20.920 --> 01:58:25.400]  them right away all the time but i will when i can folks i want to thank you all for listening
[01:58:25.400 --> 01:58:31.600]  for all the callers please keep working let's get the change done that we want not what
[01:58:31.600 --> 01:58:38.840]  they want this country belongs to us not to them take it back i want y'all to have a blessed
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