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[04:25.160 --> 04:39.720]  He was an apprentice down at Navy Pier in Chicago as an apprentice hook baiter.
[04:39.720 --> 04:44.480]  But over time, he's worked his way up to a master.
[04:44.480 --> 04:47.560]  But anyway, he can master- Easy, easy.
[04:47.560 --> 04:50.880]  He can master- Get your mind out of the gutter.
[04:50.880 --> 04:52.720]  He can master this for you.
[04:52.720 --> 04:55.280]  He's pretty good at this kind of thing.
[04:55.280 --> 05:03.360]  And he'll be a great resource if we can get this out there where people hear it.
[05:03.360 --> 05:12.000]  As you move higher up in the court system, we say on the air all the time, everything's
[05:12.000 --> 05:13.000]  political.
[05:13.000 --> 05:18.280]  The higher up you move, the more political it is.
[05:18.280 --> 05:26.440]  And Mike, you have created a tremendous amount of politics, and you have these judges.
[05:26.440 --> 05:34.680]  This judge did something that should get her put in prison in order to protect all her
[05:34.680 --> 05:35.680]  buddies.
[05:35.680 --> 05:43.800]  If we can kick her big time, she's going to have to run for reelection.
[05:43.800 --> 05:52.880]  And if we have enough stuff out there, negative stuff on the internet, and coming back at
[05:52.880 --> 06:01.960]  her so that it looks like it's going to interfere with her next election, this is going to make
[06:01.960 --> 06:06.360]  every judge in the district say, hold on here.
[06:06.360 --> 06:14.280]  Am I willing to protect this idiot for the stupid stuff he did and lose my job?
[06:14.280 --> 06:20.280]  Mike, I think you may be the one to change- I've said this before, you may be the one
[06:20.280 --> 06:21.280]  to change everything.
[06:21.280 --> 06:22.280]  I don't know.
[06:22.280 --> 06:26.600]  I think that's optimistic, but I do appreciate the compliment.
[06:26.600 --> 06:28.960]  Today I got the- Okay, okay.
[06:28.960 --> 06:29.960]  Hold on, Mike.
[06:29.960 --> 06:30.960]  Hold on.
[06:30.960 --> 06:31.960]  Okay.
[06:31.960 --> 06:32.960]  I got to tell this on the air.
[06:32.960 --> 06:33.960]  Okay.
[06:33.960 --> 06:38.840]  Mike is so full of crap.
[06:38.840 --> 06:47.080]  He comes off as this timid, oh, I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings, all this blah, blah,
[06:47.080 --> 06:48.080]  blah.
[06:48.080 --> 06:56.240]  I was at a JP's office and Mike was with me and I started into the courtroom, the courthouse
[06:56.240 --> 07:00.360]  and they stopped me at the metal detector, told me I couldn't take that phone in.
[07:00.360 --> 07:01.360]  I said, yes, I can.
[07:01.360 --> 07:03.520]  Oh, no, no, no, you can't take that in.
[07:03.520 --> 07:05.120]  We have a rule against it.
[07:05.120 --> 07:12.960]  I said, well, I got a constitution, I got a statute and I got a first circuit federal
[07:12.960 --> 07:19.680]  appeals court decision that says I can, so you wipe your behind with that rule and they
[07:19.680 --> 07:26.440]  got really, really excited and were in the process of manhandling me and throwing me
[07:26.440 --> 07:27.440]  out.
[07:27.440 --> 07:32.440]  Well, while they were in the process of manhandling me and throwing me out, Mike was right behind
[07:32.440 --> 07:33.600]  me.
[07:33.600 --> 07:41.960]  I looked back and there is Mike, Mr. Oh, I'm sorry, I hope I didn't offend anyone.
[07:41.960 --> 07:47.240]  He is standing right in the middle of these guys, asking them their names with his camera
[07:47.240 --> 07:54.680]  on, taking pictures of them and I thought, you line SOB.
[07:54.680 --> 07:58.200]  You ain't the least bit afraid of these jerks.
[07:58.200 --> 08:02.160]  You've been setting them up from the beginning.
[08:02.160 --> 08:06.200]  I really do think that Mike may be the one to change everything.
[08:06.200 --> 08:11.320]  He has struggled with this thing for what, three, four years now?
[08:11.320 --> 08:15.040]  Yeah, it's really insane.
[08:15.040 --> 08:25.000]  There's a John Wayne movie where John Wayne and his niece gets taken by the Indians and
[08:25.000 --> 08:29.520]  the uncle and the nephew go try to get her back.
[08:29.520 --> 08:37.920]  Four years later, the nephew said, Uncle, don't you think it's time we stopped?
[08:37.920 --> 08:42.680]  And John Wayne said, the Indians are an odd critter.
[08:42.680 --> 08:46.720]  He will chase something for a while and then he'll quit.
[08:46.720 --> 08:53.840]  He just doesn't understand a critter that'll keep on coming.
[08:53.840 --> 09:02.000]  And the city of Austin and the county ran into a critter that'll just keep on coming.
[09:02.000 --> 09:09.800]  And it appears as though he has gotten so many people bound up, Judge Sparks.
[09:09.800 --> 09:15.920]  He may well get Judge Sparks thrown out of office because Judge Sparks, because he acted
[09:15.920 --> 09:22.480]  so stupid because he underestimated Mike and then Mike landed only like a ton of bricks.
[09:22.480 --> 09:29.440]  He becomes a liability.
[09:29.440 --> 09:30.440]  Perception is everything.
[09:30.440 --> 09:39.160]  And Mike is creating so much negative perception against these judges that it's been my experience
[09:39.160 --> 09:45.240]  when people fight these issues, even if it's a minor issue, they will fight you and fight
[09:45.240 --> 09:50.920]  you and never stop because they're using taxpayer money.
[09:50.920 --> 09:55.680]  And like with Mike, we were talking about when they were prosecuting him over taking
[09:55.680 --> 10:03.960]  a voice recorder into the county courthouse, they accused him of pointing a deadly weapon
[10:03.960 --> 10:08.600]  at him and it was a digital recorder.
[10:08.600 --> 10:16.600]  They went after him big time and never backed up an inch until they got to the courthouse
[10:16.600 --> 10:19.320]  steps.
[10:19.320 --> 10:27.360]  And Mike was terrified, but he never, ever backed up from these guys.
[10:27.360 --> 10:35.920]  They got to the courthouse steps and offered him a deal and he told him to cram their deal.
[10:35.920 --> 10:38.120]  I did that in Cherokee County.
[10:38.120 --> 10:46.480]  I told the jury, do your worst, but I'm here doing the right thing for the right reason.
[10:46.480 --> 10:53.360]  There is nothing you can do to me that doesn't pale into insignificance over what my, the
[10:53.360 --> 10:55.880]  price my brother paid for these rights.
[10:55.880 --> 10:58.160]  I will not back up from them.
[10:58.160 --> 11:01.280]  But I had a really good reason.
[11:01.280 --> 11:06.560]  Mike didn't have my reason, but he did not back up.
[11:06.560 --> 11:12.080]  And when they got to the courthouse steps, the prosecutor dropped everything.
[11:12.080 --> 11:19.120]  This is how they do it and Mike is pushing these guys up against the wall.
[11:19.120 --> 11:26.080]  They will kick and scratch and fight right till the last second.
[11:26.080 --> 11:28.560]  And then they'll duck and run for cover.
[11:28.560 --> 11:37.960]  And Mike has pushed this so far, when this goes to the Supreme, I am absolutely confident
[11:37.960 --> 11:42.680]  that the Supreme is going to say, you guys cannot do this.
[11:42.680 --> 11:48.800]  The Supreme Court of the United States is not going to protect some chump municipal
[11:48.800 --> 11:52.360]  judge down here in Austin.
[11:52.360 --> 11:57.640]  When he lands on all of them, Mike's going to change everything.
[11:57.640 --> 12:00.800]  Well, thank you, Randy.
[12:00.800 --> 12:02.600]  Those are, that's a lot of praise.
[12:02.600 --> 12:05.800]  I hope I can live up to that.
[12:05.800 --> 12:08.240]  You know you can, you chump.
[12:08.240 --> 12:11.240]  Well, I've got my work cut out this weekend.
[12:11.240 --> 12:14.800]  I just got my appellee brief from the county.
[12:14.800 --> 12:18.960]  And actually this marks an important, this is an important landmark.
[12:18.960 --> 12:25.520]  This is the first time that any of these people have ever even replied to any of my appellee
[12:25.520 --> 12:26.520]  briefs.
[12:26.520 --> 12:31.520]  And all these courts have just root against me without one, not so much as one word in
[12:31.520 --> 12:32.520]  opposition.
[12:32.520 --> 12:37.760]  So the county actually had to produce an appellee brief and I, I've skimmed through it as I'm
[12:37.760 --> 12:38.760]  reading it.
[12:38.760 --> 12:44.600]  I just got it today and it's full of so many fraud, you know, so many inaccurate facts.
[12:44.600 --> 12:50.200]  I mean, it's just, it really makes me kind of nauseous on, but they didn't, you know,
[12:50.200 --> 12:53.800]  they don't, they don't take things to the level that I do and the courts don't acknowledge
[12:53.800 --> 12:54.800]  it either.
[12:54.800 --> 12:56.880]  I verify every document.
[12:56.880 --> 12:57.880]  They didn't verify anything.
[12:57.880 --> 13:01.680]  They didn't even certify that any of this is true.
[13:01.680 --> 13:07.400]  It's just a story and I'm reading through it and I was like, oh, that's a nice story.
[13:07.400 --> 13:15.680]  Doesn't resemble reality, but you know, that's what I've got to do in the next 10 days and
[13:15.680 --> 13:20.080]  get my, my rebuttal back up to them.
[13:20.080 --> 13:21.080]  Never.
[13:21.080 --> 13:24.840]  So I'll have to see, this will be new territory again, a different writer rebuttal because
[13:24.840 --> 13:31.280]  no one has ever written an appellee brief against me, not in Travis County, not in the
[13:31.280 --> 13:37.600]  third court of appeals, not in the court of appeals in Texas, Texas Supreme court, not
[13:37.600 --> 13:40.440]  in the fifth circuit against city boss.
[13:40.440 --> 13:42.360]  No one has written an appellee brief.
[13:42.360 --> 13:43.360]  Wait a minute.
[13:43.360 --> 13:44.360]  Wait a minute.
[13:44.360 --> 13:46.240]  This is new.
[13:46.240 --> 13:48.840]  They actually responded.
[13:48.840 --> 13:49.840]  Actually responded.
[13:49.840 --> 13:59.280]  Oh Mike, they blinked.
[13:59.280 --> 14:01.520]  They actually blinked.
[14:01.520 --> 14:06.960]  So they, they've got to feel that, um, they, that they just don't have this completely
[14:06.960 --> 14:07.960]  sewn up.
[14:07.960 --> 14:10.880]  Otherwise they wouldn't have responded at all.
[14:10.880 --> 14:18.240]  So they must, they probably know something more than I do, but um, you know, they, they,
[14:18.240 --> 14:20.400]  this is, this is, they feel the heat.
[14:20.400 --> 14:22.760]  This is coming down to the wire.
[14:22.760 --> 14:23.760]  I think so.
[14:23.760 --> 14:29.000]  You're pushing toward the Supreme, you know, these guys down here, local, they, they try
[14:29.000 --> 14:33.480]  to cover each other and you haven't backed up.
[14:33.480 --> 14:41.600]  So everybody who tries to cover somebody winds up in trouble himself and everything they
[14:41.600 --> 14:44.720]  do makes it worse for them.
[14:44.720 --> 14:52.120]  And you know, when, when we talk about how to handle situations, you know, I was talking
[14:52.120 --> 15:01.560]  earlier about never ask a court to do a public official to do anything that you actually
[15:01.560 --> 15:07.160]  want them to do because you never ask them to do anything that they're not absolutely
[15:07.160 --> 15:09.320]  required to do.
[15:09.320 --> 15:14.200]  And when they don't do it, you're on the one hand, you're handing out the, holding out
[15:14.200 --> 15:16.120]  the offer for them to do this thing.
[15:16.120 --> 15:20.240]  And then the other hand, you got this big mallet you're fixing to whack them with when
[15:20.240 --> 15:27.320]  they don't and that's what Mike's been doing for the last three years and it's beginning
[15:27.320 --> 15:29.400]  to add up on them.
[15:29.400 --> 15:33.120]  It sounds like their house of cards is beginning to fall apart.
[15:33.120 --> 15:34.120]  I hope so.
[15:34.120 --> 15:37.120]  It's certainly starting to see some cracks.
[15:37.120 --> 15:43.000]  Well, this is one of the things I didn't bring up in the hearing was that, you know, the,
[15:43.000 --> 15:47.360]  at the 201st with Amy Clark Meacham, she said, well, who is representing Travis County?
[15:47.360 --> 15:48.360]  And she already knew.
[15:48.360 --> 15:53.640]  I mean, there must have been elaborate conversation going on that's ex parte.
[15:53.640 --> 15:58.200]  I mean, it was amazing how much she knew that I didn't have to bring anything up.
[15:58.200 --> 16:01.720]  You know, like, well, you haven't served Travis County yet.
[16:01.720 --> 16:04.560]  I mean, how did she know that?
[16:04.560 --> 16:08.000]  How did she know that the constable would want to serve?
[16:08.000 --> 16:12.960]  And here's the thing, you know, the Travis County attorney is, is the agent for Travis
[16:12.960 --> 16:13.960]  County.
[16:13.960 --> 16:15.560]  You know, so I understand.
[16:15.560 --> 16:18.600]  And he's saying, and the judge is like, well, who's the agent?
[16:18.600 --> 16:22.760]  And Travis County attorney is like, I don't know, like, oh, really?
[16:22.760 --> 16:23.760]  You don't know.
[16:23.760 --> 16:30.440]  You're here representing the sheriff, aren't you not here to represent the county also?
[16:30.440 --> 16:33.640]  I mean, you are in this hearing.
[16:33.640 --> 16:38.120]  So what I'm going to set them up with, and I've already started this, is I put open records
[16:38.120 --> 16:39.120]  request to the clerk.
[16:39.120 --> 16:42.120]  I'll probably get to do one to Greg Abbott.
[16:42.120 --> 16:47.720]  Okay, wait, wait, wait, hang on, we're about to go to break Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens
[16:47.720 --> 16:48.720]  and Deborah Stevens.
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[19:05.040 --> 19:18.760]  Well, don't let nothing get to you, only the Father can't deliver you, don't let bad
[19:18.760 --> 19:37.960]  people hurt you, and just sit and get behind you, know what I mean, my friend, and all
[19:37.960 --> 19:56.760]  that I'm saying is, give it back, take it all back, it's getting worse, and I need you
[19:56.760 --> 20:24.080]  Okay, we are back, ready to count me, Steve Skidmore, Riverblood Radio, we're having way
[20:24.080 --> 20:25.960]  too much fun on the break.
[20:25.960 --> 20:30.120]  Okay Mike, where were we?
[20:30.120 --> 20:34.720]  We do need to kind of finish up, we've got a whole bunch of callers, but this is great,
[20:34.720 --> 20:47.440]  I am loving this, I just, I do this show in order to kind of replace myself and if there
[20:47.440 --> 20:55.360]  is anything that appears to be a replacement of me and a vast improvement over me, it's
[20:55.360 --> 20:56.360]  Mike.
[20:56.360 --> 20:57.360]  No, that's not true.
[20:57.360 --> 21:00.360]  Okay, yeah, don't start that crap.
[21:00.360 --> 21:06.560]  Okay, well anyways, I was just going to say that I'm just about ready to set up the county
[21:06.560 --> 21:11.560]  attorney in a very interesting way, so since we're at a hearing and they don't seem to
[21:11.560 --> 21:16.480]  know that they are the agent for Travis County, I'm going to do an open records request to
[21:16.480 --> 21:20.280]  them and also to the attorney general and then I'm going to get it on their letterhead
[21:20.280 --> 21:23.360]  that they are in fact the agent and then I'm going to...
[21:23.360 --> 21:28.120]  Wait a minute, wait a minute, why don't you, if they're not the agent for the county, then
[21:28.120 --> 21:29.880]  the county is not represented.
[21:29.880 --> 21:32.280]  Yeah, exactly.
[21:32.280 --> 21:36.320]  Move for default judgment against the county.
[21:36.320 --> 21:41.320]  That's a good one.
[21:41.320 --> 21:43.920]  That'll break you from sucking eggs.
[21:43.920 --> 21:51.840]  I'll do that Monday, that's a great idea, but I'm just going to try to trap them with
[21:51.840 --> 21:57.400]  a public information request that they are the agent and then they falsely entered, answered
[21:57.400 --> 22:02.160]  in court, committed perjury.
[22:02.160 --> 22:06.920]  He was the agent for the county, but he left the county underrepresented.
[22:06.920 --> 22:12.320]  Oh, that's even better.
[22:12.320 --> 22:16.680]  That should get a whopping bar grievance against him.
[22:16.680 --> 22:20.540]  It's a criminal complaint also.
[22:20.540 --> 22:25.480]  This is the problem they have, they start doing this stupid stuff and they're used to
[22:25.480 --> 22:30.960]  people just laying down and rowing over.
[22:30.960 --> 22:36.760]  They're not used to dealing with a bulldog, they're not used to somebody taking them to
[22:36.760 --> 22:38.560]  task on their behavior.
[22:38.560 --> 22:46.520]  You've got to understand, these guys are not the sharpest knives in the drawer.
[22:46.520 --> 22:50.680]  If they were smart, they'd be out making the real money.
[22:50.680 --> 22:56.160]  They wouldn't be acting as a chump lawyer for our county.
[22:56.160 --> 23:01.680]  They'd be out there making big bucks, so that gives us a great advantage.
[23:01.680 --> 23:11.000]  That's true, they're good foil, they're a good training mechanism.
[23:11.000 --> 23:24.480]  I haven't found them to be much of a test because I already know what dumb people do.
[23:24.480 --> 23:33.560]  I really enjoy it when I get in front of someone who gives me a really good set of arguments.
[23:33.560 --> 23:36.680]  My son is most annoying that way.
[23:36.680 --> 23:43.760]  He seems to always be three steps ahead of me, but he's really good for me, so I would
[23:43.760 --> 23:46.160]  like some of these guys who are really good.
[23:46.160 --> 23:53.880]  If I'm going in here fighting with these guys in order to get better, I don't get better
[23:53.880 --> 24:03.600]  against someone who's a chump, but anyway, we do need to move along.
[24:03.600 --> 24:04.600]  Thanks Mike.
[24:04.600 --> 24:15.200]  Don't stop, it looks like you're beginning to tip over the top of the bill curve.
[24:15.200 --> 24:22.600]  Okay, I just got to keep going, it's always the toughest at the summit when you push me
[24:22.600 --> 24:24.600]  for that summit push.
[24:24.600 --> 24:30.920]  That's where the air gets real thin.
[24:30.920 --> 24:34.840]  It sounds like it's getting real thin around you right now.
[24:34.840 --> 24:43.480]  Yeah, I think so, they're running out of arguments, all they can do is hope and delay me and not
[24:43.480 --> 24:50.640]  get me to the Supreme Court and hope that the Supreme doesn't rule against them.
[24:50.640 --> 24:52.840]  That's like playing Russian roulette.
[24:52.840 --> 25:00.000]  Yeah, that's all that they've got left at this point.
[25:00.000 --> 25:04.960]  Hope is all they got left and they don't have much hope at that because they've just acted
[25:04.960 --> 25:05.960]  too ignorant.
[25:05.960 --> 25:15.640]  They give me a lot of arguable material, the more they did it, and it's when things go
[25:15.640 --> 25:24.840]  to an absolute level that it's the most obvious and so they pretty much denied almost everything
[25:24.840 --> 25:29.960]  that they could possibly do and so they haven't been subtle, it's just been very aggressive
[25:29.960 --> 25:37.760]  and then that stuff only works in the short term, it doesn't work in the long term, it
[25:37.760 --> 25:38.760]  can.
[25:38.760 --> 25:47.240]  Exactly, it only works if somebody lays down and rolls over for them, but they got somebody
[25:47.240 --> 25:48.720]  who won't quit.
[25:48.720 --> 25:54.080]  Okay, good luck Mike, we need to move along, thanks a lot and keep us up to date.
[25:54.080 --> 25:57.680]  Okay, absolutely, thanks Randy, thanks Steve.
[25:57.680 --> 26:03.920]  Okay, we're going to Terrence in Tennessee.
[26:03.920 --> 26:04.920]  Hello Terrence.
[26:04.920 --> 26:13.280]  Hey, Randy and Steve, I went all the way from Kentucky to the Georgia state line, it didn't
[26:13.280 --> 26:16.280]  be too bad.
[26:16.280 --> 26:19.520]  Wait a minute, you did what?
[26:19.520 --> 26:24.120]  I made it from the Kentucky state line to the Georgia state line, go listen in.
[26:24.120 --> 26:29.840]  Oh, while we're talking?
[26:29.840 --> 26:33.280]  You must be in one of those real skinny states.
[26:33.280 --> 26:40.120]  No, I think he just ran through the Cumberland Gap, he must be over east of Nashville.
[26:40.120 --> 26:45.880]  Well, I'm east and south of Nashville now on Chattanooga.
[26:45.880 --> 26:53.840]  Oh, Chattanooga, you're way east of Nashville, wait a minute, there's hillbillies in Chattanooga.
[26:53.840 --> 26:59.360]  Okay, okay, what is your question today?
[26:59.360 --> 27:05.360]  Two issues, the first one I need Steve to stand up, face you, cross his arms, kind of
[27:05.360 --> 27:11.560]  tilt his head down and look at you and start tapping the toe.
[27:11.560 --> 27:16.080]  Next time I see him, I'll do that, we're separated by a little over 100 miles.
[27:16.080 --> 27:21.040]  Steve's got to be careful standing up, he might get his head in the ceiling fan.
[27:21.040 --> 27:23.760]  Well, that too.
[27:23.760 --> 27:30.280]  But what you did at the start of the show, Randy, was you said, all I need to know is
[27:30.280 --> 27:34.520]  what you're accused of and if you're not guilty of doing it.
[27:34.520 --> 27:43.480]  And it seems to me that you denied the presumption of innocence to the accused when you said
[27:43.480 --> 27:45.560]  you were doing your mock trial.
[27:45.560 --> 27:50.200]  Wait a minute, I didn't quite understand that.
[27:50.200 --> 27:54.720]  Well, you said you're the judge and the guy gets up and starts saying this and that and
[27:54.720 --> 27:59.720]  the other and takes your stuff and this and you said, as a judge, all you need to know
[27:59.720 --> 28:04.680]  is what you're accused of and whether you're guilty or not.
[28:04.680 --> 28:10.560]  And if you go back and listen to the recording, you denied the presumption of innocence to
[28:10.560 --> 28:13.320]  the accused.
[28:13.320 --> 28:17.600]  I didn't make any kind of determinations or anything.
[28:17.600 --> 28:25.440]  I'm merely saying that as the judge, I have a duty to determine the facts in accordance
[28:25.440 --> 28:33.040]  to the rules of evidence, then apply the law as it comes to me, the facts in the case.
[28:33.040 --> 28:38.360]  And Danny Murphy wasn't giving me facts in the case and he wasn't giving me law in support
[28:38.360 --> 28:40.200]  of those facts.
[28:40.200 --> 28:46.800]  He was giving me argument and opinion.
[28:46.800 --> 28:47.800]  I can't use that.
[28:47.800 --> 28:57.720]  As the judge, he could give me the most convincing arguments and the most concogent and well-constructed
[28:57.720 --> 29:01.920]  explanations and reasons for what he's doing.
[29:01.920 --> 29:07.600]  But for me as a judge, irrelevant.
[29:07.600 --> 29:09.000]  I need facts and law.
[29:09.000 --> 29:14.320]  The only thing I can move on as a judge is facts and law, but that has nothing to do
[29:14.320 --> 29:18.520]  with presumption.
[29:18.520 --> 29:26.840]  I have, okay, I have, as this is a mock trial, I have a prosecutor come in and say, we have
[29:26.840 --> 29:34.720]  these facts and these facts go to this law.
[29:34.720 --> 29:39.760]  And we allege based on these facts that this person violated this law.
[29:39.760 --> 29:44.120]  This overcomes the presumption.
[29:44.120 --> 29:47.840]  Now we have prima facie evidence that he's guilty.
[29:47.840 --> 29:54.240]  Now he has to come back with evidence to overcome the prima facie evidence of the prosecutor.
[29:54.240 --> 29:56.240]  Hang on, we'll be right back.
[29:56.240 --> 30:01.320]  Randy Count and Deborah Stevens, Blue Blood Radio.
[30:01.320 --> 30:05.760]  The government has dreamed up a new way to erode your privacy in the name of fighting
[30:05.760 --> 30:08.200]  terrorism, tracking prepaid debit cards.
[30:08.200 --> 30:12.840]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht and I'll give you the details of this latest assault on liberty
[30:12.840 --> 30:14.960]  in just a moment.
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[30:42.960 --> 30:48.160]  Time and again, the government finds ways to make sure Big Brother is watching, always
[30:48.160 --> 30:50.280]  in the name of the war on terror.
[30:50.280 --> 30:54.240]  The newest idea is legislation to track prepaid debit cards.
[30:54.240 --> 31:00.260]  For years, people have used these cards anonymously, just like cash, no fuss and no financial footprints.
[31:00.260 --> 31:04.600]  For low income people without a bank account, they provide important access to services
[31:04.600 --> 31:05.920]  like online purchases.
[31:05.920 --> 31:12.000]  But now, lawmakers want to burden prepaid cards with detailed record keeping and surcharges.
[31:12.000 --> 31:16.240]  The real losers, of course, won't be terrorists who never follow the rules anyway.
[31:16.240 --> 31:19.440]  As usual, it will be us and our freedoms that pay the price.
[31:19.440 --> 31:21.220]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht.
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[31:48.680 --> 31:50.040]  I'm not a conspiracy theorist.
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[33:24.880 --> 33:31.880]  I won't let you pull the wool over my eyes They must refuse your news or soak up my
[33:55.880 --> 34:04.880]  lies It seems you like the space But please take some words to the wise
[34:04.880 --> 34:13.880]  Please stop trying to pull the wool over my eyes
[34:13.880 --> 34:20.880]  Okay, we are back, Brad McAlton, Steve Skidmore, Deborah Stevens, hiding back there in the background.
[34:20.880 --> 34:26.880]  So she's watching us so we can't see anything about her and laugh hysterical or she'll come
[34:26.880 --> 34:29.880]  on the air and beat us up with the microphones.
[34:29.880 --> 34:34.880]  We're going to AMEX in Arkansas.
[34:34.880 --> 34:37.880]  Hello, AMEX.
[34:37.880 --> 34:44.880]  AMEX, did we put you to sleep?
[34:44.880 --> 34:50.880]  I might have died of old age.
[34:50.880 --> 34:53.880]  I've got him unmuted.
[34:53.880 --> 35:03.880]  Okay, Chris, you want to check him and we'll come right back to him.
[35:03.880 --> 35:06.880]  Okay, we're going to go to Terrence.
[35:06.880 --> 35:10.880]  Weren't we talking to Terrence in Tennessee?
[35:10.880 --> 35:12.880]  I lost where I was at.
[35:12.880 --> 35:17.880]  I don't know how we skipped over AMEX.
[35:17.880 --> 35:22.880]  Okay, anyway, we'll go back to him as soon as we can get him up live.
[35:22.880 --> 35:25.880]  Okay, sorry, Terrence.
[35:25.880 --> 35:27.880]  Am I still here?
[35:27.880 --> 35:29.880]  You are here.
[35:29.880 --> 35:31.880]  Okay.
[35:31.880 --> 35:40.880]  Well, it seems the judge or the courts allowing the prosecutor or the state granting all their
[35:40.880 --> 35:48.880]  presumptions and allowing none for the defendant, that's how I get out of that.
[35:48.880 --> 35:51.880]  I'll move on to my second question.
[35:51.880 --> 35:54.880]  Okay, hold on, hold on.
[35:54.880 --> 36:00.880]  If you misunderstood that point that I was making that wasn't the case, you see,
[36:00.880 --> 36:08.880]  Danny Murphy was a personal friend of mine and I knew the case and we were holding
[36:08.880 --> 36:11.880]  mock trials because he's being prosecuted.
[36:11.880 --> 36:13.880]  We was afraid he'd go to jail.
[36:13.880 --> 36:19.880]  So we had picked and we had people go out and ask people on the street if they would
[36:19.880 --> 36:27.880]  sit in as a jury in a mock trial and we had a jury of people that didn't know him.
[36:27.880 --> 36:29.880]  And I'm sitting up here as the judge.
[36:29.880 --> 36:32.880]  I'm on his side.
[36:32.880 --> 36:37.880]  I want him to be able to present his case where he can win it.
[36:37.880 --> 36:45.880]  But as sitting as the judge, I can't tell him what he should be giving me.
[36:45.880 --> 36:52.880]  And it's kind of like when you play chess, you sit down at a chessboard, play six moves,
[36:52.880 --> 36:58.880]  and then both players gets up and walks around the table and takes the other side.
[36:58.880 --> 37:02.880]  When you look at the chessboard, it looks so totally different.
[37:02.880 --> 37:13.880]  When Pastor Massad asked me to sit as a mock judge, my perspective was totally different.
[37:13.880 --> 37:22.880]  And I was astounded at how different it was and how difficult it was because Danny is
[37:22.880 --> 37:31.880]  arguing all this patriot mythology stuff that has nothing to do with the merits of his case.
[37:31.880 --> 37:40.880]  And I'm hearing it and yeah, yeah, I understand all this, but what's that got to do with anything?
[37:40.880 --> 37:46.880]  What's that got to do with the allegation against you, the facts against you?
[37:46.880 --> 37:50.880]  Give me something I can work with.
[37:50.880 --> 37:57.880]  And we had someone that we were working with go into a Fort Worth bankruptcy court.
[37:57.880 --> 38:05.880]  And the lawyers on the other side on a foreclosure issue, they brought in all their paperwork.
[38:05.880 --> 38:09.880]  And this person did exactly what we told her to do.
[38:09.880 --> 38:15.880]  And she said, Your Honor, this lawyer over here has got a big stack of papers he's referring to.
[38:15.880 --> 38:17.880]  Can I see those?
[38:17.880 --> 38:20.880]  And the judge said, well, Counselor, show them to her.
[38:20.880 --> 38:24.880]  So she gives them to her and it's all her closing documents.
[38:24.880 --> 38:28.880]  And she said, Your Honor, I've never seen these before.
[38:28.880 --> 38:32.880]  And the lawyer, the judge said, well, isn't that your signature?
[38:32.880 --> 38:35.880]  I never signed these papers.
[38:35.880 --> 38:37.880]  These were photocopies.
[38:37.880 --> 38:40.880]  She had never seen those photocopies before.
[38:40.880 --> 38:47.880]  She said the judge ground on her for 10 minutes and she would not back down.
[38:47.880 --> 38:49.880]  She'd never seen these before.
[38:49.880 --> 38:50.880]  She didn't sign these.
[38:50.880 --> 38:52.880]  She didn't know anything about this.
[38:52.880 --> 39:00.880]  And she said, after about 10 minutes, the judge sat back and smiled and looked over at the lawyers on the other side and said,
[39:00.880 --> 39:07.880]  Well, Counselor, it seems she has never seen these before.
[39:07.880 --> 39:11.880]  You're going to have to bring in the originals.
[39:11.880 --> 39:15.880]  You see, the judge got it from the beginning.
[39:15.880 --> 39:20.880]  But he made sure that she knew exactly where she was at.
[39:20.880 --> 39:29.880]  She knew exactly the position she was taking and wasn't confused, wasn't missing the point and would not back down.
[39:29.880 --> 39:36.880]  And what I took from that is he said, Yes, she gave me what I need.
[39:36.880 --> 39:42.880]  Now he can turn to these lawyers and say, Well, Bubba, you're going to have to bring in the originals.
[39:42.880 --> 39:43.880]  They never did.
[39:43.880 --> 39:47.880]  They wrote off the loan.
[39:47.880 --> 39:50.880]  The judge actually got what he could work with.
[39:50.880 --> 39:52.880]  And that's the problem I was having.
[39:52.880 --> 39:59.880]  Danny's not given me what I need to give him the decision that he needs.
[39:59.880 --> 40:02.880]  Does that make sense, Terrence?
[40:02.880 --> 40:12.880]  Yes, it makes a lot of sense that it seems like there's so much more burden on the accused.
[40:12.880 --> 40:18.880]  Like you said, the judge hounded her. Are you sure? Are you sure? Are you sure?
[40:18.880 --> 40:21.880]  OK, well, this one was civil.
[40:21.880 --> 40:27.880]  In Danny's case, Pastor Massad was acting as the prosecutor.
[40:27.880 --> 40:33.880]  And he came in first and said, You know, we have this evidence.
[40:33.880 --> 40:37.880]  He did this, he did this, he did this, he did this, he did this.
[40:37.880 --> 40:41.880]  Therefore, we have reason to believe and do believe he committed this act.
[40:41.880 --> 40:46.880]  Now he's presented prima facie evidence.
[40:46.880 --> 40:47.880]  He gave facts.
[40:47.880 --> 40:59.880]  He gave law interpreting those facts sufficient to create a prima facie case against Danny.
[40:59.880 --> 41:05.880]  Once that's done, now the burden shifts.
[41:05.880 --> 41:09.880]  Before that, the presumption had to be that Danny was innocent.
[41:09.880 --> 41:18.880]  But once sufficient evidence is presented to indicate or to give a prima facie evidence of guilt,
[41:18.880 --> 41:21.880]  now Danny has to overcome that evidence.
[41:21.880 --> 41:24.880]  That's how the trial works.
[41:24.880 --> 41:32.880]  When the prosecutor came in and presented his side first, now Danny is in a position to rebut.
[41:32.880 --> 41:37.880]  So we didn't deny a presumption of innocence.
[41:37.880 --> 41:39.880]  Okay, you explained that well.
[41:39.880 --> 41:45.880]  Now it's the light of the bulb is starting to come on.
[41:45.880 --> 41:48.880]  Thank you very much for that explanation.
[41:48.880 --> 41:52.880]  My second point, and this is strictly your opinion and from your studies,
[41:52.880 --> 41:55.880]  because you've studied so much more than I,
[41:55.880 --> 42:01.880]  but it has been said that the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair
[42:01.880 --> 42:04.880]  and took as many of them for wives as they chose.
[42:04.880 --> 42:10.880]  Hold on, hold on. You did not quite quote that accurately.
[42:10.880 --> 42:12.880]  Don't force me to be...
[42:12.880 --> 42:14.880]  Hold on, hold on. Go back and check.
[42:14.880 --> 42:18.880]  It didn't say the sons of God.
[42:18.880 --> 42:29.880]  It said the sons of gods found the daughters of men to be fair to them wives,
[42:29.880 --> 42:34.880]  each as they choose. Both were plural.
[42:34.880 --> 42:37.880]  That was interesting.
[42:37.880 --> 42:47.880]  But my question is, why was the men condemned to only 125 years of life?
[42:47.880 --> 42:50.880]  Oh, you misunderstand.
[42:50.880 --> 43:02.880]  The men were the gods and their life, that passage was one that came from the Sumerian
[43:02.880 --> 43:05.880]  and didn't get out of the Bible.
[43:05.880 --> 43:10.880]  That goes back to Anu, Enlil, Murd, Marduk.
[43:10.880 --> 43:20.880]  Supposedly, under the Sumerians, we had the greater gods, which were the planets,
[43:20.880 --> 43:26.880]  and their destinies were the orbits, where there are paths around the sun.
[43:26.880 --> 43:35.880]  And then we have the lesser gods that came here from a 12th planet.
[43:35.880 --> 43:42.880]  And these lesser gods lived 120 years by their years.
[43:42.880 --> 43:47.880]  And that planet they came from is on a 3,600-year elliptical orbit.
[43:47.880 --> 43:50.880]  That made their lifespan 450,000 years.
[43:50.880 --> 43:55.880]  Hang on, Randy Kelton, Steve Skidmore, We'll Be Right Back.
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[46:01.880 --> 46:24.880]  MUSIC
[46:24.880 --> 46:29.880]  Always I must be careful what I'm wishing for
[46:29.880 --> 46:34.880]  When I'm hungry, I like to know just what I'm fishing for
[46:34.880 --> 46:40.880]  I ain't asking for much, I ain't trying to be no glutton
[46:40.880 --> 46:46.880]  I'm just here making my living, pushing buttons
[46:46.880 --> 46:51.880]  I give my message out to anyone who's shouting distance
[46:51.880 --> 46:57.880]  I hope for bravery and against slavery, showing resistance
[46:57.880 --> 47:02.880]  First I'm crawling, then I'm walking, then I start strutting
[47:02.880 --> 47:07.880]  I'm just so glad to make my living, pushing buttons
[47:07.880 --> 47:16.880]  Okay, Terrence, I have to apologize. I kind of jumped in there a little too quick.
[47:16.880 --> 47:26.880]  I was corrected off the air, and some of the versions don't have gods as plural.
[47:26.880 --> 47:31.880]  But I didn't let you finish as to where you were going.
[47:31.880 --> 47:36.880]  I was making some reference to some more ancient Sumerian texts,
[47:36.880 --> 47:46.880]  and let it not be construed that I propose those as being in any way true or accurate or relevant.
[47:46.880 --> 47:53.880]  All I know is they're out there, and they propose a different explanation to some things.
[47:53.880 --> 47:59.880]  You were saying about the hundred and twenty years reference,
[47:59.880 --> 48:02.880]  and I interrupted you, and I apologize for that.
[48:02.880 --> 48:07.880]  Go back to where you were and make your point.
[48:07.880 --> 48:12.880]  I'm thinking, well, the sons of God must have been men themselves.
[48:12.880 --> 48:16.880]  Why would God punish men for something the sons of God did?
[48:16.880 --> 48:21.880]  I mean, all the men did was have daughters. It's not their fault that the sons of God liked them.
[48:21.880 --> 48:30.880]  No, wait. I don't see. That's not where God punished women.
[48:30.880 --> 48:36.880]  No, he punished the men. Because the sons of God saw that the daughters were fair,
[48:36.880 --> 48:38.880]  he limited the life of man to a hundred and twenty-five years,
[48:38.880 --> 48:46.880]  and I'm wondering why did he do that to the men when the sons of God are the ones flirting around?
[48:46.880 --> 48:56.880]  That's kind of a complex, and that actually goes to an area we don't generally do on the air.
[48:56.880 --> 49:06.880]  We're more toward law than religion. We've got some pretty varied beliefs on religion.
[49:06.880 --> 49:10.880]  I tend to be an engineer, so I don't have a belief system.
[49:10.880 --> 49:12.880]  I don't believe one way or another.
[49:12.880 --> 49:16.880]  I just look at what is out there and try to make sense of it.
[49:16.880 --> 49:21.880]  So I don't really have a belief about that.
[49:21.880 --> 49:25.880]  And that's too sophisticated a question for me to ask anyway.
[49:25.880 --> 49:27.880]  Or be the answer, I think.
[49:27.880 --> 49:34.880]  But you explain it well that it's a Sumerian thing and it's mistranslated,
[49:34.880 --> 49:39.880]  and that that's why it's often is why would God punish men for something the sons of God did?
[49:39.880 --> 49:44.880]  And that's why I was wondering that, and I was just asking you to speculate on it anyway.
[49:44.880 --> 49:52.880]  Yeah, yeah, and I kind of see, and I'm not the expert,
[49:52.880 --> 50:00.880]  but I want Deborah to come in and talk more about this and explain that better than me.
[50:00.880 --> 50:04.880]  This is not an area I've looked at real close.
[50:04.880 --> 50:09.880]  I mean, the Sumerians talk about, you know, people living a thousand years.
[50:09.880 --> 50:15.880]  Adam lived, what, six hundred years, and Moses and Methuselah.
[50:15.880 --> 50:21.880]  And even the thousand and one tales of the Arabian Nights,
[50:21.880 --> 50:29.880]  the very first one speaks of a merchant who's sitting in his yard.
[50:29.880 --> 50:39.880]  He's concerned that his wife, Allah had given him the ability to understand animals,
[50:39.880 --> 50:43.880]  but was warned, don't reveal what they say or that day you die.
[50:43.880 --> 50:46.880]  His wife found out he could do it and she wouldn't know what to say.
[50:46.880 --> 50:51.880]  And at one point he's sitting in the yard, his children playing in the yard,
[50:51.880 --> 50:57.880]  and he's lamenting the fact that his wife would be willing to risk his death
[50:57.880 --> 51:07.880]  in order to satisfy her idle curiosity after we have been married these hundred and twenty years.
[51:07.880 --> 51:10.880]  I put on the brakes when I saw that.
[51:10.880 --> 51:17.880]  There are references to human beings living a thousand years or plus or minus.
[51:17.880 --> 51:21.880]  And then there are references to certain human beings never dying,
[51:21.880 --> 51:26.880]  Noah being one of them, Enoch being another one, and there's a couple more.
[51:26.880 --> 51:30.880]  So this is a complex subject.
[51:30.880 --> 51:38.880]  But for the most part, as it goes to the Bible itself and what the belief system is,
[51:38.880 --> 51:41.880]  don't really mean too much to the belief system overall.
[51:41.880 --> 51:47.880]  It's just some historical information we don't have all the facts for.
[51:47.880 --> 51:50.880]  Deborah, did you want to step in on this?
[51:50.880 --> 51:53.880]  Yeah, I was trying to. Thanks, Randy, for asking me on the air.
[51:53.880 --> 51:56.880]  Yeah, I was trying to. And wait, before I say anything else,
[51:56.880 --> 52:00.880]  Terrence, are you on a speakerphone right now?
[52:00.880 --> 52:06.880]  A headset that I'm in a truck with. I've got a GV8 in front of me with a loud speaker.
[52:06.880 --> 52:11.880]  Okay, okay. Yeah, if you could just maybe turn your headset down, because when Randy talks,
[52:11.880 --> 52:16.880]  his voice is coming through your speaker of your headset
[52:16.880 --> 52:19.880]  and feeding back into your microphone and going back out on the air.
[52:19.880 --> 52:21.880]  So it's kind of noisy.
[52:21.880 --> 52:24.880]  So if you could just turn your headphones down a little bit, I'd appreciate it.
[52:24.880 --> 52:30.880]  Yeah. Terrence, turn up your hearing aid, turn down your headset. That's what I have to do.
[52:30.880 --> 52:32.880]  Yeah, thanks, Randy, for asking me on.
[52:32.880 --> 52:36.880]  I was listening to some of that and I was kind of wanting to say a little something.
[52:36.880 --> 52:42.880]  Yeah, in the biblical scripture, it does say the sons of God came down,
[52:42.880 --> 52:48.880]  saw that the daughters of men were fair and came down and mated with them.
[52:48.880 --> 52:56.880]  And it's pretty clear if you read that within the context and in those passages of the Word
[52:56.880 --> 53:00.880]  that what they're talking about is angels, okay,
[53:00.880 --> 53:07.880]  spiritual beings that were created to be servants of God in the spiritual realm,
[53:07.880 --> 53:16.880]  and they left their position and basically came down to do what they weren't supposed to do,
[53:16.880 --> 53:18.880]  which was mate with mankind.
[53:18.880 --> 53:24.880]  And most biblical scholars agree this is where the race of the Nephilim came from.
[53:24.880 --> 53:31.880]  All right, so that is a totally different issue from the question that you are asking,
[53:31.880 --> 53:37.880]  which is why was man's days limited to 120 years?
[53:37.880 --> 53:40.880]  And Randy is correct.
[53:40.880 --> 53:48.880]  Up until the days of Noah, up until the Great Flood, men and women lived hundreds,
[53:48.880 --> 53:51.880]  even upwards to a thousand years.
[53:51.880 --> 53:58.880]  And I have read reference in the Bible of Noah passing, you know, of Noah dying,
[53:58.880 --> 54:06.880]  but the only two human beings that in the Old Testament at least that I have read
[54:06.880 --> 54:10.880]  that were raptured or that did not die were Enoch.
[54:10.880 --> 54:13.880]  It says Enoch walked with God and then he was translated.
[54:13.880 --> 54:16.880]  All right, and then Elijah, Elijah was taken.
[54:16.880 --> 54:21.880]  Those are the only two that I have read, and I've studied the Word pretty intensely.
[54:21.880 --> 54:30.880]  And so at any rate, up until the days of Noah, man lived hundreds, even upwards to a thousand years.
[54:30.880 --> 54:39.880]  And man, see, because of the fall of man, and Randy and I have discussed this on the air before,
[54:39.880 --> 54:44.880]  concerning the poison, all right, the genetic poison.
[54:44.880 --> 54:52.880]  That's how I liken it to, like, similar to DU poisoning, okay, or some kind of radiation poisoning.
[54:52.880 --> 54:57.880]  It's literally passed through your genes and it's literally passed through the DNA,
[54:57.880 --> 54:59.880]  and it gets worse over time.
[54:59.880 --> 55:02.880]  It gets worse from generation to generation to generation,
[55:02.880 --> 55:08.880]  and that's why mankind was becoming so degraded and corrupted.
[55:08.880 --> 55:15.880]  And so when it says after the flood, after righteous Noah and his family passed through the flood,
[55:15.880 --> 55:23.880]  then God limited man's days to 120 years because of the sin and his flesh, God said,
[55:23.880 --> 55:27.880]  I cannot strive, my spirit cannot strive with man any longer than that.
[55:27.880 --> 55:29.880]  That's what the Word says.
[55:29.880 --> 55:38.880]  And so it's just God is, it's like putting, you know, clean water into a dirty glass, okay?
[55:38.880 --> 55:40.880]  It just doesn't jive.
[55:40.880 --> 55:42.880]  You have to clean the glass.
[55:42.880 --> 55:45.880]  And so if, can I finish, Randy, okay?
[55:45.880 --> 55:48.880]  And so at any rate, I'm just telling you what the Word says.
[55:48.880 --> 55:50.880]  You can take it or leave it.
[55:50.880 --> 55:51.880]  I'm just answering the question.
[55:51.880 --> 55:52.880]  No, I'm not arguing.
[55:52.880 --> 55:54.880]  Okay, well, you can laugh.
[55:54.880 --> 55:55.880]  Okay, but I'm just answering.
[55:55.880 --> 55:56.880]  No, it's not that.
[55:56.880 --> 56:00.880]  Yeah, it sounds like God can only put up with us for 120 years.
[56:00.880 --> 56:03.880]  That's basically what the Word says.
[56:03.880 --> 56:05.880]  Yes, that's basically what it says.
[56:05.880 --> 56:11.880]  He says my spirit can only strive with man for so long because of the sin and his flesh.
[56:11.880 --> 56:13.880]  God just can't take it, okay?
[56:13.880 --> 56:17.880]  That's why Jesus died for us so that we could be cleansed,
[56:17.880 --> 56:23.880]  but still we are in such a degraded and corrupted condition that basically, Randy, you're right.
[56:23.880 --> 56:25.880]  God can only put up with us for about 120 years.
[56:25.880 --> 56:26.880]  That's about the max.
[56:26.880 --> 56:32.880]  And there are other places in the Old Testament that say things like, you know,
[56:32.880 --> 56:38.880]  man's day shall be upwards of three score, okay, around 60 years,
[56:38.880 --> 56:43.880]  but for strength perhaps another score upwards of 80.
[56:43.880 --> 56:47.880]  And look, look at what the normal lifespan is right about now.
[56:47.880 --> 56:48.880]  It's 75, 80 years old.
[56:48.880 --> 56:52.880]  And there are some people that will live 100, 110, 120.
[56:52.880 --> 56:58.880]  We've heard even as of recently, people in Asia may be living up to around 130.
[56:58.880 --> 57:00.880]  But that is the reason.
[57:00.880 --> 57:03.880]  It's because basically Randy's right.
[57:03.880 --> 57:06.880]  God can only put up with the flesh of our sin for so long.
[57:06.880 --> 57:11.880]  But if we have faith in Christ, we have eternal life and we will receive a new body.
[57:11.880 --> 57:13.880]  So that's what the Word says.
[57:13.880 --> 57:15.880]  Take it or leave it, okay?
[57:15.880 --> 57:17.880]  But that's the answer to the question.
[57:17.880 --> 57:20.880]  I hope I've been able to adequately answer the question.
[57:20.880 --> 57:23.880]  That hurts. He can only put up with me for 120 years.
[57:23.880 --> 57:28.880]  Yeah, well, that's humbling.
[57:28.880 --> 57:29.880]  Okay, so does that make sense, Terrence?
[57:29.880 --> 57:34.880]  That has nothing to do with the passage talking about the sons of God coming down to the daughters of men.
[57:34.880 --> 57:41.880]  Those were evil angels, the angelic entities, the evil spirits in the spiritual realm
[57:41.880 --> 57:44.880]  that were part of the rebellion that followed Satan.
[57:44.880 --> 57:52.880]  And they are actually, God has already locked them up in what's called the gloomy pits of Tartarus right now.
[57:52.880 --> 57:54.880]  That's explained in the New Testament.
[57:54.880 --> 57:58.880]  They are in the gloomy pits of Tartarus because of what they did,
[57:58.880 --> 58:01.880]  because of coming down and creating the race of the Nephilim.
[58:01.880 --> 58:03.880]  Anyway, that's what the Word says.
[58:03.880 --> 58:05.880]  Like I said, take it or leave it.
[58:05.880 --> 58:06.880]  But that's what the Bible says.
[58:06.880 --> 58:08.880]  Does that make sense, Terrence?
[58:08.880 --> 58:12.880]  That's the best I've heard and I can comprehend that.
[58:12.880 --> 58:13.880]  Thank you guys very much.
[58:13.880 --> 58:15.880]  All right, thank you, Terrence.
[58:15.880 --> 58:20.880]  Thank you, Randy, for bringing me on to give that explanation.
[58:20.880 --> 58:26.880]  Okay, this is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Steve Skidmore with our radio.
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[01:03:26.880 --> 01:03:28.880]  Okay, we are back.
[01:03:28.880 --> 01:03:30.880]  Miranda Kelton, Debra Stevens,
[01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:36.880]  and we're here with our special guest, Mr. Steve Skidmark.
[01:03:36.880 --> 01:03:38.880]  More?
[01:03:38.880 --> 01:03:40.880]  You did it again.
[01:03:40.880 --> 01:03:44.880]  I did it again, and I pretended like it was an accident.
[01:03:44.880 --> 01:03:46.880]  You did good.
[01:03:46.880 --> 01:03:50.880]  Okay, we're going to Mike in North Carolina.
[01:03:50.880 --> 01:03:52.880]  Hello, Mike.
[01:03:52.880 --> 01:03:55.880]  828, that sounds like Asheville.
[01:03:55.880 --> 01:03:56.880]  That's it.
[01:03:56.880 --> 01:03:59.880]  Well, about 20 miles from Asheville, Henderson Mill.
[01:03:59.880 --> 01:04:02.880]  Man, there's hillbillies out there.
[01:04:02.880 --> 01:04:06.880]  There's hillbillies everywhere.
[01:04:06.880 --> 01:04:08.880]  Yeah, there's one on the radio right now.
[01:04:08.880 --> 01:04:11.880]  There's three on the radio right now.
[01:04:11.880 --> 01:04:15.880]  Okay, touché.
[01:04:15.880 --> 01:04:17.880]  Okay, what do you have for us tonight?
[01:04:17.880 --> 01:04:19.880]  Well, I had a question.
[01:04:19.880 --> 01:04:25.880]  If I could contact you guys off air about information questions on a declaratory judgment.
[01:04:25.880 --> 01:04:35.880]  But my question now was I had a foreclosure sale happen this past Tuesday the 14th on my house,
[01:04:35.880 --> 01:04:43.880]  and was kind of curious if you guys had any ideas or any advice.
[01:04:43.880 --> 01:04:47.880]  Okay, place to start.
[01:04:47.880 --> 01:04:57.880]  What has been filed with the county registrar of deeds?
[01:04:57.880 --> 01:05:08.880]  Pull every document filed with the registrar of deeds from the date you received a warranty deed on the property.
[01:05:08.880 --> 01:05:11.880]  Look at those documents very carefully.
[01:05:11.880 --> 01:05:19.880]  In the year 2000, the bank started a program where they were going to make a fortune
[01:05:19.880 --> 01:05:24.880]  and break the back of the economy, and they did just exactly that.
[01:05:24.880 --> 01:05:33.880]  They created this securitization scheme where they would take residential mortgages,
[01:05:33.880 --> 01:05:46.880]  which were long-term indebtedness, and sell it to long-term investments, primarily your retirement funds.
[01:05:46.880 --> 01:05:49.880]  It would look like a perfect match.
[01:05:49.880 --> 01:06:07.880]  The problem is round whole square peg, residential mortgages had reporting requirements that made it not work for securities investing.
[01:06:07.880 --> 01:06:15.880]  In the process of putting this scheme together, they really screwed up the paperwork.
[01:06:15.880 --> 01:06:21.880]  So without going into all of the details of what all this scheme was about,
[01:06:21.880 --> 01:06:32.880]  the net result to you is the paperwork they have in the county registrar's office is trash.
[01:06:32.880 --> 01:06:38.880]  And every state is going to have a statute similar to this one.
[01:06:38.880 --> 01:06:46.880]  In order for the county registrar of deeds to have any force in effect,
[01:06:46.880 --> 01:06:53.880]  it must have a statute that says any claim against real property
[01:06:53.880 --> 01:07:02.880]  not properly filed in the county registrar's office is unenforceable as to the holder.
[01:07:02.880 --> 01:07:11.880]  And what that means is it don't matter if you are in fact the true and proper holder of the note and the deed of trust,
[01:07:11.880 --> 01:07:24.880]  that you have every right to collect on this note and thereby enforce the security instrument on default.
[01:07:24.880 --> 01:07:31.880]  If you don't have that properly filed in the county record, you cannot enforce it.
[01:07:31.880 --> 01:07:36.880]  Reason being, I sold a guy a business.
[01:07:36.880 --> 01:07:43.880]  He wanted me to give him credit and take a lien against his property, a mechanics lien.
[01:07:43.880 --> 01:07:45.880]  So I went down, looked in the county records.
[01:07:45.880 --> 01:07:48.880]  I didn't find a lien against his property.
[01:07:48.880 --> 01:07:52.880]  So I took a lien against his property.
[01:07:52.880 --> 01:07:56.880]  Now I've got JP Morgan Chase coming back saying, oh, we had a lien against the property.
[01:07:56.880 --> 01:07:59.880]  Well, sorry, Bubba.
[01:07:59.880 --> 01:08:02.880]  It wasn't in there when I checked.
[01:08:02.880 --> 01:08:08.880]  So you can't come back later now that I've taken a lien in good faith and try to exercise yours.
[01:08:08.880 --> 01:08:11.880]  OK. Does that make sense, Mike?
[01:08:11.880 --> 01:08:15.880]  It does. It does. And that's actually who I'm dealing with.
[01:08:15.880 --> 01:08:20.880]  OK. First place to look. Look at those records.
[01:08:20.880 --> 01:08:23.880]  And when I look at the records, this is what I look at. OK.
[01:08:23.880 --> 01:08:27.880]  Who's the borrower? When did it occur?
[01:08:27.880 --> 01:08:32.880]  Who's the trustee if it's a nonjudicial state?
[01:08:32.880 --> 01:08:36.880]  If it's not, who is the lender?
[01:08:36.880 --> 01:08:42.880]  Then I look at is there an assignment of the security instrument?
[01:08:42.880 --> 01:08:45.880]  If there is an assignment of the security instrument,
[01:08:45.880 --> 01:08:50.880]  I go back to that deed of trust and look to see if it's an FHA loan.
[01:08:50.880 --> 01:08:57.880]  If it's an FHA loan, there is no authorization to sell.
[01:08:57.880 --> 01:09:03.880]  I look at who did the assignment. Is MERS included in the deed of trust?
[01:09:03.880 --> 01:09:04.880]  Oh, yes.
[01:09:04.880 --> 01:09:11.880]  And if MERS is included in the deed of trust and there is an assignment of the deed of trust to somebody else,
[01:09:11.880 --> 01:09:14.880]  did MERS do the assignment?
[01:09:14.880 --> 01:09:23.880]  And if they did, did they say MERS as nominee for the original lender?
[01:09:23.880 --> 01:09:28.880]  Because if they didn't put the original lender's name in there,
[01:09:28.880 --> 01:09:34.880]  that probably means the original lender is out of business.
[01:09:34.880 --> 01:09:41.880]  And if the original lender is out of business, that means he's dead.
[01:09:41.880 --> 01:09:48.880]  The lender, a fictional entity is a person under law.
[01:09:48.880 --> 01:09:56.880]  I have one case here where Southern Star Lending issued the note in 2005.
[01:09:56.880 --> 01:10:00.880]  Southern Star Lending went out of business in 2007.
[01:10:00.880 --> 01:10:06.880]  In 2009, Deutsche Bank gave a loan modification.
[01:10:06.880 --> 01:10:12.880]  In 2012, MERS assigned the note from Southern Star to Deutsche Bank.
[01:10:12.880 --> 01:10:14.880]  Now, hold on, guys.
[01:10:14.880 --> 01:10:22.880]  2009, how in the heck did Deutsche Bank give a loan modification?
[01:10:22.880 --> 01:10:33.880]  There's nothing in the record saying that Deutsche Bank has the power to make any claim against the property.
[01:10:33.880 --> 01:10:41.880]  2012, MERS assigned this deed of trust from Southern Star to Deutsche Bank.
[01:10:41.880 --> 01:10:42.880]  Now, wait a minute.
[01:10:42.880 --> 01:10:48.880]  Southern Star was a person under law and that person died in 2007.
[01:10:48.880 --> 01:10:51.880]  You can't be an agent for a dead guy.
[01:10:51.880 --> 01:10:52.880]  Right.
[01:10:52.880 --> 01:10:54.880]  And that's been upheld.
[01:10:54.880 --> 01:10:57.880]  These are the kinds of things we look for.
[01:10:57.880 --> 01:11:01.880]  First, just look at names, dates, who did what.
[01:11:01.880 --> 01:11:13.880]  Nobody can make a claim against property unless there's something in the record showing that they have the power to make that claim.
[01:11:13.880 --> 01:11:17.880]  That's the biggest thing you look for.
[01:11:17.880 --> 01:11:19.880]  And there are a lot of other details.
[01:11:19.880 --> 01:11:26.880]  We have a lot of guys talking about bifurcation of the note and securitization and all this stuff.
[01:11:26.880 --> 01:11:33.880]  Well, you know, that's pretty well been beat up by the courts.
[01:11:33.880 --> 01:11:43.880]  And I think the banks waved that around at us in order to send us down that rabbit hole.
[01:11:43.880 --> 01:11:50.880]  They didn't want us to go back and look at what they've got filed in the county record.
[01:11:50.880 --> 01:11:57.880]  The trustee or the person who did the sale, were they properly appointed to do that?
[01:11:57.880 --> 01:12:04.880]  Were they properly appointed to do that by someone who had power to properly appoint them?
[01:12:04.880 --> 01:12:05.880]  We look at these details.
[01:12:05.880 --> 01:12:08.880]  They don't want us going there.
[01:12:08.880 --> 01:12:20.880]  Read that security instrument, especially those sections that put limitations on the borrower, on the lender.
[01:12:20.880 --> 01:12:24.880]  Covenant 13, 14, 15.
[01:12:24.880 --> 01:12:27.880]  13 generally limits the fees.
[01:12:27.880 --> 01:12:35.880]  It tells them they can only charge fees that are authorized by law or I forget exactly what it says.
[01:12:35.880 --> 01:12:37.880]  It addresses the fees they charge.
[01:12:37.880 --> 01:12:41.880]  And we talked about that earlier in the show.
[01:12:41.880 --> 01:12:48.880]  14 generally requires certain notices.
[01:12:48.880 --> 01:12:54.880]  15 defines governing law and severability.
[01:12:54.880 --> 01:13:01.880]  And in 15, both parties agree to abide by all governing law.
[01:13:01.880 --> 01:13:07.880]  If you can find any law that the lender violated, he breached the contract.
[01:13:07.880 --> 01:13:09.880]  He's in default.
[01:13:09.880 --> 01:13:18.880]  If you can find any notice he was required to give, hope or tea or respite, whatever the notice, the requirement was, federal or state,
[01:13:18.880 --> 01:13:23.880]  you don't claim the Federal Consumer Protection Act.
[01:13:23.880 --> 01:13:31.880]  You don't claim a harm under that because they're kicking into the federal court.
[01:13:31.880 --> 01:13:34.880]  And they'll claim statute of limitations.
[01:13:34.880 --> 01:13:39.880]  You claim breach of contract, which doesn't have a statute of limitations.
[01:13:39.880 --> 01:13:42.880]  So there's a lot of things you can claim.
[01:13:42.880 --> 01:13:51.880]  If you have been foreclosed on, look through the records, find some claims you can make,
[01:13:51.880 --> 01:13:56.880]  then it doesn't matter if you prove them up or not.
[01:13:56.880 --> 01:13:59.880]  As long as you make them, make them sound good.
[01:13:59.880 --> 01:14:06.880]  File a quiet title action in the state court.
[01:14:06.880 --> 01:14:19.880]  The eviction court, the justice court, they have jurisdiction to determine who has a right to possession.
[01:14:19.880 --> 01:14:29.880]  And they come to the table under the presumption that the substitute trustee's deed is valid.
[01:14:29.880 --> 01:14:37.880]  The JP has no authority to make a determination concerning the validity of the substitute trustee's deed.
[01:14:37.880 --> 01:14:49.880]  So you file a quiet title action claiming that the substitute trustee's deed is invalid and ask the court for declaratory judgment,
[01:14:49.880 --> 01:15:01.880]  declaring that this document is insufficient on its face because the person or entity who did the foreclosure lacked authority
[01:15:01.880 --> 01:15:07.880]  because the security instrument was void by default.
[01:15:07.880 --> 01:15:14.880]  The assignments were void as the person who did the, whatever the reason,
[01:15:14.880 --> 01:15:22.880]  that the documents relied on to do the foreclosure were insufficient.
[01:15:22.880 --> 01:15:24.880]  Does that make sense?
[01:15:24.880 --> 01:15:26.880]  Absolutely.
[01:15:26.880 --> 01:15:31.880]  I can talk to you off the air and help you with that if you like, but we need to move quickly.
[01:15:31.880 --> 01:15:34.880]  If there's been an eviction, here's how it works.
[01:15:34.880 --> 01:15:37.880]  I mean eviction, I have foreclosure.
[01:15:37.880 --> 01:15:42.880]  Check to see if the bank bought it back.
[01:15:42.880 --> 01:15:48.880]  And that's getting more and more common because people are getting leery about buying these properties.
[01:15:48.880 --> 01:15:54.880]  If the bank didn't buy it back, then you have to sue the purchaser.
[01:15:54.880 --> 01:16:04.880]  If you have claims in the record, look at the record based on the public record.
[01:16:04.880 --> 01:16:07.880]  It's obvious that these problems exist.
[01:16:07.880 --> 01:16:15.880]  Therefore, the purchaser, when they made the purchase, had full knowledge of these problems.
[01:16:15.880 --> 01:16:19.880]  If they did not have direct knowledge, they had imputed knowledge
[01:16:19.880 --> 01:16:26.880]  and cannot claim they didn't know that the foreclosure was improper, so you sue whoever purchased it.
[01:16:26.880 --> 01:16:34.880]  When you sue the guy who purchased it, he's going to get real excited that he's going to sue the guy who sold it to him.
[01:16:34.880 --> 01:16:41.880]  And once you do that, they will generally stop all action to force you out of the property
[01:16:41.880 --> 01:16:44.880]  because they don't want to force you out and leave the property empty.
[01:16:44.880 --> 01:16:46.880]  It becomes a toxic asset.
[01:16:46.880 --> 01:16:54.880]  Hang on, Randy Kelton, Steve Skidmore, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio, our call at number 512-646-1984.
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[01:20:30.880 --> 01:20:35.880]  Okay, we are back and we're talking to Mike in North Carolina.
[01:20:35.880 --> 01:20:43.880]  Before we go back to Mike, I want to address again the fact that Wednesday I beat a traffic ticket.
[01:20:43.880 --> 01:20:54.880]  And the way I beat that traffic, excuse me, the way I beat that traffic ticket is that I built a...
[01:20:54.880 --> 01:21:00.880]  Excuse me. I think a bug flew up my nose.
[01:21:00.880 --> 01:21:08.880]  I took Eddie's traffic seminar material and just cut and pasted out of his material into a document
[01:21:08.880 --> 01:21:14.880]  and made up a challenge to subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:21:14.880 --> 01:21:27.880]  I demanded to see the officer's certification to act as a police officer in the state of Texas.
[01:21:27.880 --> 01:21:32.880]  And gave it to the...
[01:21:32.880 --> 01:21:37.880]  filed it with the court and I went in Wednesday and asked the prosecutor if he had read it.
[01:21:37.880 --> 01:21:39.880]  And he said he had skimmed over it.
[01:21:39.880 --> 01:21:46.880]  I said, well, you know, you have a jury trial set and we're not going to get to that jury.
[01:21:46.880 --> 01:21:52.880]  So we already called in all of the jury panel.
[01:21:52.880 --> 01:21:59.880]  I said, well, the problem is I have a subject matter jurisdiction motion before the court.
[01:21:59.880 --> 01:22:03.880]  So I'm coming before the court at arm's length.
[01:22:03.880 --> 01:22:09.880]  If the judge grants my challenge to subject matter jurisdiction, there won't be a hearing.
[01:22:09.880 --> 01:22:13.880]  If the judge denies my challenge to subject matter jurisdiction,
[01:22:13.880 --> 01:22:20.880]  I will still be standing at arm's length to the court and therefore cannot participate with the jury.
[01:22:20.880 --> 01:22:24.880]  So we're not even going to get to our jury today.
[01:22:24.880 --> 01:22:27.880]  Besides, you should read that motion before we move ahead.
[01:22:27.880 --> 01:22:34.880]  And oh, by the way, here's a response from your city attorney for my information request
[01:22:34.880 --> 01:22:40.880]  for certification of the officer to enforce the traffic laws.
[01:22:40.880 --> 01:22:45.880]  I can't believe your lawyer gave me such a stupid response.
[01:22:45.880 --> 01:22:48.880]  You're going to love this.
[01:22:48.880 --> 01:22:54.880]  So they start the hearing and the judge is up there reading all the names off.
[01:22:54.880 --> 01:22:58.880]  And he reads, Randall Kelton, is the state ready?
[01:22:58.880 --> 01:23:01.880]  The state's not ready, Your Honor.
[01:23:01.880 --> 01:23:03.880]  Case is dismissed.
[01:23:03.880 --> 01:23:06.880]  Quack, quack, quack.
[01:23:06.880 --> 01:23:14.880]  He read the material, he read the arguments, and he did not want to argue them in the court.
[01:23:14.880 --> 01:23:26.880]  I suggest that if you have an inclination to exercise your freedom in the face of government oppression,
[01:23:26.880 --> 01:23:34.880]  the place to start, the place to learn the ropes is in traffic court.
[01:23:34.880 --> 01:23:35.880]  I mean, what are they going to do?
[01:23:35.880 --> 01:23:39.880]  They're going to charge you what they were going to charge you anyway.
[01:23:39.880 --> 01:23:42.880]  You don't have anything to lose.
[01:23:42.880 --> 01:23:45.880]  Get Eddie's traffic course.
[01:23:45.880 --> 01:23:50.880]  If you get his traffic course, it's 250 bucks.
[01:23:50.880 --> 01:23:53.880]  One ticket will cost you that much.
[01:23:53.880 --> 01:24:05.880]  And if you get his traffic course, you'll get 10 spots in our drawing for the two weapons that are being offered.
[01:24:05.880 --> 01:24:12.880]  So it's just up to the end of this month, so get in there quickly.
[01:24:12.880 --> 01:24:15.880]  Get this course, you will be amazed at what's in there.
[01:24:15.880 --> 01:24:23.880]  It'll give you the ability to take these guys on and not just be subject to whatever they do.
[01:24:23.880 --> 01:24:30.880]  And once you beat them up in the traffic court, the lessons you learn there, you'll be able to use in higher courts.
[01:24:30.880 --> 01:24:42.880]  If you get falsely accused of something really serious, you don't want to wait until it's too late to try to figure out how to handle it.
[01:24:42.880 --> 01:24:46.880]  This is the absolutely cheapest legal education you can get.
[01:24:46.880 --> 01:24:47.880]  Okay.
[01:24:47.880 --> 01:24:53.880]  With that said, we're going to go back to Mike in North Carolina.
[01:24:53.880 --> 01:24:59.880]  Okay, Mike, have I answered your question concerning the foreclosure?
[01:24:59.880 --> 01:25:06.880]  You said it had already been sold, and I was trying to give you some confidence that there's something you can do.
[01:25:06.880 --> 01:25:09.880]  There's a lot of things you can do, actually.
[01:25:09.880 --> 01:25:12.880]  Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. That's a huge help.
[01:25:12.880 --> 01:25:16.880]  I just wanted to let you know the bank did purchase the property back.
[01:25:16.880 --> 01:25:18.880]  They were the only bidder.
[01:25:18.880 --> 01:25:32.880]  And also, Merge did prepare the assignment and the substitution, but that was a year and a half after the original lender was taken away from me.
[01:25:32.880 --> 01:25:36.880]  Okay. Is the original lender still in business?
[01:25:36.880 --> 01:25:37.880]  No.
[01:25:37.880 --> 01:25:42.880]  And if not, were they in business when Merge made the transfer?
[01:25:42.880 --> 01:25:45.880]  No.
[01:25:45.880 --> 01:25:47.880]  Wonderful. They got big problems.
[01:25:47.880 --> 01:25:49.880]  And here's the deal.
[01:25:49.880 --> 01:26:00.880]  If you file an action as a pro se, you can expect the courts to rule against you out of hand at every turn.
[01:26:00.880 --> 01:26:03.880]  But who cares?
[01:26:03.880 --> 01:26:09.880]  We tend to go to the court with this notion that the courts are about the rule of law.
[01:26:09.880 --> 01:26:12.880]  They're about no such thing.
[01:26:12.880 --> 01:26:14.880]  That's the shucking and jiving.
[01:26:14.880 --> 01:26:18.880]  What they're really about is politics.
[01:26:18.880 --> 01:26:22.880]  You will not win your case because you have the law and the facts on your side.
[01:26:22.880 --> 01:26:24.880]  It's not that way now. It never has been that way.
[01:26:24.880 --> 01:26:26.880]  You win your case if you have politics on your side.
[01:26:26.880 --> 01:26:29.880]  It's all politics.
[01:26:29.880 --> 01:26:32.880]  Figure out the politics, you figure out how to get your case won.
[01:26:32.880 --> 01:26:39.880]  And the biggest political factor is the money.
[01:26:39.880 --> 01:26:46.880]  Filing a suit against them doesn't make any difference if the court's ultimately going to rule against you.
[01:26:46.880 --> 01:26:53.880]  In order to give a show, the other side has to respond to your issues.
[01:26:53.880 --> 01:26:57.880]  That's going to cost them a lot of money.
[01:26:57.880 --> 01:27:04.880]  So I'm kind of evolving what we're doing.
[01:27:04.880 --> 01:27:08.880]  I've been telling people, don't get caught up in the fight.
[01:27:08.880 --> 01:27:12.880]  Know what your intended outcome is so you don't get lost in the fight.
[01:27:12.880 --> 01:27:16.880]  And I was saying that while I was lost in the fight.
[01:27:16.880 --> 01:27:22.880]  The first thing you want to do, sue the court, sue the lender.
[01:27:22.880 --> 01:27:26.880]  The second thing you want to do is go to the lender and say,
[01:27:26.880 --> 01:27:32.880]  guys, let's make a deal to make all this garbage go away.
[01:27:32.880 --> 01:27:39.880]  Before you can do that though, you need to sit down and say, and write down,
[01:27:39.880 --> 01:27:45.880]  what for you would be an equitable outcome?
[01:27:45.880 --> 01:27:50.880]  What for you would be an acceptable end result?
[01:27:50.880 --> 01:27:54.880]  Write that down so you know what it is.
[01:27:54.880 --> 01:27:59.880]  Then go to the bank and see how close to that you can push them.
[01:27:59.880 --> 01:28:06.880]  Stay after them about making a deal because the courts want you to make a deal.
[01:28:06.880 --> 01:28:11.880]  If you come back to the courts and apologize to the courts for having to be here,
[01:28:11.880 --> 01:28:13.880]  I've tried to make a deal with these guys.
[01:28:13.880 --> 01:28:15.880]  They won't negotiate with me.
[01:28:15.880 --> 01:28:17.880]  I'm sorry I'm wasting your time.
[01:28:17.880 --> 01:28:23.880]  That's going to create political pressure against the lender by the court to make a deal
[01:28:23.880 --> 01:28:26.880]  so that the judge don't have to sit in this annoying hearing.
[01:28:26.880 --> 01:28:30.880]  He'd rather be out playing golf.
[01:28:30.880 --> 01:28:32.880]  Does that make sense?
[01:28:32.880 --> 01:28:35.880]  Absolutely.
[01:28:35.880 --> 01:28:37.880]  I really appreciate it, man.
[01:28:37.880 --> 01:28:39.880]  If there's any way I could...
[01:28:39.880 --> 01:28:45.880]  Send me an email, randy at ruleoflawradio.com, and I will respond to you.
[01:28:45.880 --> 01:28:46.880]  I appreciate it, man.
[01:28:46.880 --> 01:28:47.880]  Thanks so much.
[01:28:47.880 --> 01:28:49.880]  You guys are awesome.
[01:28:49.880 --> 01:28:50.880]  Okay.
[01:28:50.880 --> 01:28:51.880]  You are welcome.
[01:28:51.880 --> 01:28:56.880]  Now we're going to go to Matthew in Texas.
[01:28:56.880 --> 01:28:57.880]  Wait a minute.
[01:28:57.880 --> 01:28:58.880]  This is...
[01:28:58.880 --> 01:29:02.880]  I think our callers are getting bounced around.
[01:29:02.880 --> 01:29:03.880]  Okay.
[01:29:03.880 --> 01:29:05.880]  We'll go to Matthew next.
[01:29:05.880 --> 01:29:06.880]  Hello, Matthew.
[01:29:06.880 --> 01:29:07.880]  What do you have for us?
[01:29:07.880 --> 01:29:08.880]  Hey.
[01:29:08.880 --> 01:29:09.880]  Hi, Randy.
[01:29:09.880 --> 01:29:11.880]  Are you hearing me okay?
[01:29:11.880 --> 01:29:12.880]  Yes, I am.
[01:29:12.880 --> 01:29:13.880]  All right.
[01:29:13.880 --> 01:29:14.880]  Honor to speak with you.
[01:29:14.880 --> 01:29:15.880]  You're an awesome guy.
[01:29:15.880 --> 01:29:19.880]  I've seen a lot of your YouTube videos, and they've kind of helped me move along.
[01:29:19.880 --> 01:29:25.880]  And to keep it all in line with what you're saying, when I first got this notice, and I'm
[01:29:25.880 --> 01:29:32.880]  being sued after, I guess it's about seven years at this point, since 2006, I was asking
[01:29:32.880 --> 01:29:34.880]  myself, what would be an acceptable issue?
[01:29:34.880 --> 01:29:36.880]  I'm not in the home.
[01:29:36.880 --> 01:29:41.880]  I'm well out of it because I've gotten notices that it was going to be foreclosed upon, and
[01:29:41.880 --> 01:29:43.880]  it would be sold at the county steps in Arkansas.
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[01:34:04.880 --> 01:34:07.880]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, James Kidmore.
[01:34:07.880 --> 01:34:11.880]  We're on the radio, and we're talking to Matthew in Texas.
[01:34:11.880 --> 01:34:13.880]  Okay, Matthew.
[01:34:13.880 --> 01:34:15.880]  Hey.
[01:34:15.880 --> 01:34:18.880]  You vacated the property.
[01:34:18.880 --> 01:34:21.880]  Have they foreclosed yet?
[01:34:21.880 --> 01:34:26.880]  They are suing me right now, and they just filed for summary judgment recently.
[01:34:26.880 --> 01:34:29.880]  I slipped on that.
[01:34:29.880 --> 01:34:30.880]  Hang on, hang on.
[01:34:30.880 --> 01:34:36.880]  Is this a, what do you call it, a HOPA, I mean, a home improvement loan?
[01:34:36.880 --> 01:34:37.880]  Or is it a...
[01:34:37.880 --> 01:34:38.880]  You are.
[01:34:38.880 --> 01:34:41.880]  Are they suing you on the deed of trust?
[01:34:41.880 --> 01:34:46.880]  They're suing me on the deed of trust or the warranty deed.
[01:34:46.880 --> 01:34:47.880]  Wait a minute.
[01:34:47.880 --> 01:34:49.880]  You're in Texas.
[01:34:49.880 --> 01:34:50.880]  Oh, forgive me.
[01:34:50.880 --> 01:34:56.880]  I'm in Texas, but I bought a home in Arkansas, my mother and my stepfather's home, to save it.
[01:34:56.880 --> 01:34:57.880]  Oh, okay.
[01:34:57.880 --> 01:35:03.880]  And for those of you who didn't understand that little interchange, Texas is a nonjudicial state.
[01:35:03.880 --> 01:35:05.880]  They wouldn't have to sue.
[01:35:05.880 --> 01:35:06.880]  Right.
[01:35:06.880 --> 01:35:07.880]  Okay.
[01:35:07.880 --> 01:35:10.880]  Did you not respond to the lawsuit?
[01:35:10.880 --> 01:35:16.880]  I have responded, and then they responded to me.
[01:35:16.880 --> 01:35:22.880]  And they were asking me for a list of all defenses and all this, and I got intimidated, as many people might.
[01:35:22.880 --> 01:35:26.880]  And I didn't respond in time.
[01:35:26.880 --> 01:35:29.880]  I'm at a point where a friend of mine who's...
[01:35:29.880 --> 01:35:31.880]  Sorry?
[01:35:31.880 --> 01:35:33.880]  Yeah, you just didn't respond in time.
[01:35:33.880 --> 01:35:35.880]  That's not necessarily a problem.
[01:35:35.880 --> 01:35:38.880]  Yeah, I think I'll probably be okay on that.
[01:35:38.880 --> 01:35:49.880]  A friend of mine who's an insurance attorney who doesn't know the ropes in and out here has pretty much said that she believes most judges are going to be pretty friendly to, if you state it right,
[01:35:49.880 --> 01:36:02.880]  to the response that you're representing yourself, pro se, you're working 50 hours a week, and you have found new and genuine articles of interest.
[01:36:02.880 --> 01:36:03.880]  I don't know.
[01:36:03.880 --> 01:36:06.880]  That wasn't exactly what she said, but she more or less said that I needed...
[01:36:06.880 --> 01:36:08.880]  Causes of action or claims.
[01:36:08.880 --> 01:36:15.880]  Causes of action or potential fraud, that type of thing, although that might be going a little too far.
[01:36:15.880 --> 01:36:25.880]  But she said pretty much you need to respond and note something directly to the points that they're making and then add something additional.
[01:36:25.880 --> 01:36:27.880]  So I think I'll be okay.
[01:36:27.880 --> 01:36:29.880]  I'm writing that up this weekend.
[01:36:29.880 --> 01:36:31.880]  I have a few questions.
[01:36:31.880 --> 01:36:33.880]  Okay, hold on.
[01:36:33.880 --> 01:36:35.880]  Yes, sir.
[01:36:35.880 --> 01:36:41.880]  What are the causes of action that the other side has brought?
[01:36:41.880 --> 01:36:46.880]  Good question, in that I don't know exactly how to articulate a response.
[01:36:46.880 --> 01:36:47.880]  It's simply that, you know...
[01:36:47.880 --> 01:36:48.880]  Okay, hold on.
[01:36:48.880 --> 01:36:49.880]  That was a trick question.
[01:36:49.880 --> 01:36:51.880]  Okay, good.
[01:36:51.880 --> 01:36:52.880]  Okay.
[01:36:52.880 --> 01:37:00.880]  And I asked that question to find out how aware you was of how to respond to the document.
[01:37:00.880 --> 01:37:03.880]  You flunked.
[01:37:03.880 --> 01:37:05.880]  Oh, no kidding.
[01:37:05.880 --> 01:37:06.880]  Okay.
[01:37:06.880 --> 01:37:11.880]  There's some basics you need to know.
[01:37:11.880 --> 01:37:12.880]  I can help you with that.
[01:37:12.880 --> 01:37:14.880]  Give me an email offline.
[01:37:14.880 --> 01:37:23.880]  And the first thing you need to do is troop down to the county registrar of deeds.
[01:37:23.880 --> 01:37:28.880]  Get all the documents that were filed of record.
[01:37:28.880 --> 01:37:37.880]  Do you have someone in Arkansas who can do that or is the registrar of deeds online where you can access them from the Internet?
[01:37:37.880 --> 01:37:38.880]  We've already done it.
[01:37:38.880 --> 01:37:43.880]  And that's what makes this kind of interesting.
[01:37:43.880 --> 01:37:47.880]  In 2006, the warranty deed is filed.
[01:37:47.880 --> 01:37:49.880]  The mortgage is filed.
[01:37:49.880 --> 01:37:54.880]  The title company never sent me a copy of the mortgage.
[01:37:54.880 --> 01:38:00.880]  And originally in my response, I was stating I would like to see the original copy.
[01:38:00.880 --> 01:38:01.880]  I've never seen it.
[01:38:01.880 --> 01:38:02.880]  I've never gotten it.
[01:38:02.880 --> 01:38:03.880]  When you look at the notarization...
[01:38:03.880 --> 01:38:04.880]  Hold on.
[01:38:04.880 --> 01:38:05.880]  Hold on.
[01:38:05.880 --> 01:38:06.880]  You didn't get one at closing?
[01:38:06.880 --> 01:38:08.880]  I did not get one at closing.
[01:38:08.880 --> 01:38:11.880]  I got the warranty deed, but I didn't get the mortgage at all.
[01:38:11.880 --> 01:38:20.880]  And I have a document from the title company that has checkmark boxes and only the warranty deed is checked, not the mortgage.
[01:38:20.880 --> 01:38:34.880]  The thing there that's questionable and might be a defense incomplete for it is that it's notarized by a member of their staff in Arkansas, and I didn't attend the closing.
[01:38:34.880 --> 01:38:44.880]  I simply faxed back a document in a very hurried fashion with my name on it or whatever, but it was never notarized in front of that person.
[01:38:44.880 --> 01:38:54.880]  Okay. That won't help you because the court will say, okay, this wasn't properly notarized.
[01:38:54.880 --> 01:39:06.880]  Did you sign a note and security instrument to secure this loan?
[01:39:06.880 --> 01:39:07.880]  And you're going to say yes.
[01:39:07.880 --> 01:39:16.880]  So, notary, on the note and security instrument will become irrelevant because it can be proven.
[01:39:16.880 --> 01:39:17.880]  Got it.
[01:39:17.880 --> 01:39:20.880]  And I made payments after for a while anyway.
[01:39:20.880 --> 01:39:23.880]  So, I get that.
[01:39:23.880 --> 01:39:24.880]  Then the next thing is MERS.
[01:39:24.880 --> 01:39:36.880]  Very interestingly, I suspect you know, I think it was 2010, there was a ruling by the Arkansas Supreme Court that MERS at least didn't have standing to foreclose.
[01:39:36.880 --> 01:39:41.880]  And I understand that MERS has to assign the note to someone.
[01:39:41.880 --> 01:39:46.880]  I originally financed it with Fremont Financial in 2007.
[01:39:46.880 --> 01:39:48.880]  No, no, no, no, no. Hold on.
[01:39:48.880 --> 01:39:49.880]  Sorry.
[01:39:49.880 --> 01:39:52.880]  MERS never actually has possession.
[01:39:52.880 --> 01:39:59.880]  MERS merely acts as an agent for someone who does have possession.
[01:39:59.880 --> 01:40:03.880]  The original lender, is the original lender still in business?
[01:40:03.880 --> 01:40:07.880]  The original lender, Fremont, I believe, is still in business.
[01:40:07.880 --> 01:40:15.880]  And the MERS assigned it to Chase in August of this year and my suit happened in September.
[01:40:15.880 --> 01:40:20.880]  At the same time, I was contacted by a servicing agent called SPS Services.
[01:40:20.880 --> 01:40:27.880]  And we've come to a point over the last few months at which they're offering me a deed in lieu of foreclosure.
[01:40:27.880 --> 01:40:33.880]  So I've got one hand that's shaking and I have another one with a loaded gun to kill me.
[01:40:33.880 --> 01:40:37.880]  No, they're not offering you a deed.
[01:40:37.880 --> 01:40:41.880]  They're asking you to give them a deed in lieu of foreclosure.
[01:40:41.880 --> 01:40:42.880]  Okay, you're right.
[01:40:42.880 --> 01:40:43.880]  Yes, good.
[01:40:43.880 --> 01:40:44.880]  I'm sorry.
[01:40:44.880 --> 01:40:47.880]  I think that's a way to think about it.
[01:40:47.880 --> 01:40:58.880]  For me, I think that might be an acceptable outcome, but I'm interested in ultimately standing up for people who have suffered much more than I.
[01:40:58.880 --> 01:41:01.880]  And I've suffered quite a bit going through the process.
[01:41:01.880 --> 01:41:06.880]  I've tried to do workouts three, four times, never worked, it all made sense.
[01:41:06.880 --> 01:41:08.880]  And I wonder about this.
[01:41:08.880 --> 01:41:12.880]  MERS assigns this to Chase in August of this year.
[01:41:12.880 --> 01:41:24.880]  So during a number of years between 2006 and 2013, they are attempting to negotiate with me, do some kind of workout.
[01:41:24.880 --> 01:41:28.880]  Could that simply be a fraudulent process based on the documents?
[01:41:28.880 --> 01:41:30.880]  No, no, no, that can be a great process.
[01:41:30.880 --> 01:41:38.880]  What you need to do at this point, you're going to the table with your hat in your hand.
[01:41:38.880 --> 01:41:47.880]  You need to look over the records and develop claims against them and go to them with your boot up there behind.
[01:41:47.880 --> 01:41:48.880]  I hear you.
[01:41:48.880 --> 01:41:49.880]  Yeah.
[01:41:49.880 --> 01:41:55.880]  I've been listening to your show earlier and there are analyses that I need to do that I think will help here.
[01:41:55.880 --> 01:42:00.880]  I do believe I'll probably have some continuance and I'll be able to analyze things further.
[01:42:00.880 --> 01:42:01.880]  Okay.
[01:42:01.880 --> 01:42:06.880]  The reason I asked you that question earlier is you don't yet have the background.
[01:42:06.880 --> 01:42:08.880]  Contact me off the air.
[01:42:08.880 --> 01:42:12.880]  Send me an email and we'll discuss how we can do this.
[01:42:12.880 --> 01:42:17.880]  I do analyses of the county records.
[01:42:17.880 --> 01:42:20.880]  I give you a handful of claims.
[01:42:20.880 --> 01:42:24.880]  Here is one of the issues you'll have.
[01:42:24.880 --> 01:42:29.880]  The bank is not going to negotiate with you in good faith.
[01:42:29.880 --> 01:42:30.880]  I know that.
[01:42:30.880 --> 01:42:35.880]  They never negotiate with the borrower.
[01:42:35.880 --> 01:42:44.880]  We're putting together a program where we can get someone else to come in and negotiate.
[01:42:44.880 --> 01:42:48.880]  They'll negotiate with a third party but not with the borrower.
[01:42:48.880 --> 01:42:49.880]  Yeah.
[01:42:49.880 --> 01:42:54.880]  I tried to do that once and found that I wasn't dealing with the right people.
[01:42:54.880 --> 01:42:58.880]  What I think is very interesting here, and I want to ask you what you think of this,
[01:42:58.880 --> 01:43:05.880]  Arkansas is a non-judicial foreclosure state and they have for many years had the ability
[01:43:05.880 --> 01:43:07.880]  just to go to the courthouse steps and sell it.
[01:43:07.880 --> 01:43:14.880]  I have four documents that were filed and these are there at the county record that say
[01:43:14.880 --> 01:43:17.880]  mortgagee's notice of default and intention to sell.
[01:43:17.880 --> 01:43:24.880]  This is prior to MERS assigning this to Chase but yet on Chase's behalf.
[01:43:24.880 --> 01:43:28.880]  I believe there's some material issue that's very important for many people.
[01:43:28.880 --> 01:43:32.880]  There's a very specific material issue there.
[01:43:32.880 --> 01:43:33.880]  Yeah.
[01:43:33.880 --> 01:43:37.880]  That makes those notices void and unenviable force in effect,
[01:43:37.880 --> 01:43:42.880]  but you would have to file the claim against those documents.
[01:43:42.880 --> 01:43:48.880]  You do that in form of a quiet title action.
[01:43:48.880 --> 01:43:51.880]  Let's pick this up on the other side.
[01:43:51.880 --> 01:43:54.880]  Randy Caldwell-Stevens, we do need to move quickly.
[01:43:54.880 --> 01:43:56.880]  We've got three more callers.
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[01:46:25.880 --> 01:46:27.880]  Bradley Kelton and Deborah Stevens.
[01:46:27.880 --> 01:46:29.880]  Steve Skidmore, Rule of Law Radio.
[01:46:29.880 --> 01:46:31.880]  We're talking to Matthew in Texas.
[01:46:31.880 --> 01:46:33.880]  Matthew, we're on our last segment.
[01:46:33.880 --> 01:46:35.880]  We're running out of time.
[01:46:35.880 --> 01:46:40.880]  Send me an email, and we'll talk about this offline.
[01:46:40.880 --> 01:46:41.880]  There is a lot you can do.
[01:46:41.880 --> 01:46:43.880]  There's a lot we can help you with.
[01:46:43.880 --> 01:46:45.880]  That I will definitely do.
[01:46:45.880 --> 01:46:48.880]  I guess you guys will give me your email on the back end.
[01:46:48.880 --> 01:46:50.880]  Do you want to give it to the world?
[01:46:50.880 --> 01:46:52.880]  It's okay.
[01:46:52.880 --> 01:46:58.880]  Okay, send me an email, Randy at ruleoflawradio.com.
[01:46:58.880 --> 01:46:59.880]  All right, we'll do.
[01:46:59.880 --> 01:47:00.880]  Thank you very much.
[01:47:00.880 --> 01:47:03.880]  And I appreciate you guys very much.
[01:47:03.880 --> 01:47:05.880]  And carry on.
[01:47:05.880 --> 01:47:06.880]  Thank you.
[01:47:06.880 --> 01:47:07.880]  Thank you.
[01:47:07.880 --> 01:47:11.880]  Okay, now we're going to go to Patrick in Texas.
[01:47:11.880 --> 01:47:16.880]  Hello, Patrick.
[01:47:16.880 --> 01:47:19.880]  Hello, Patrick.
[01:47:19.880 --> 01:47:21.880]  Looks like we lost Patrick.
[01:47:21.880 --> 01:47:27.880]  Now we're going to go to Dallas in Texas.
[01:47:27.880 --> 01:47:29.880]  Hello, Dallas.
[01:47:29.880 --> 01:47:31.880]  Hello, guys.
[01:47:31.880 --> 01:47:33.880]  What do you have for us tonight?
[01:47:33.880 --> 01:47:36.880]  I wanted to get your opinion on something.
[01:47:36.880 --> 01:47:41.880]  I have this funny little habit of going down to the courthouse on any given day.
[01:47:41.880 --> 01:47:42.880]  Wait a minute.
[01:47:42.880 --> 01:47:45.880]  Are you on a wireless handset?
[01:47:45.880 --> 01:47:47.880]  I'm on my speaker phone.
[01:47:47.880 --> 01:47:49.880]  I'm trying to speak directly into the mic, Randy.
[01:47:49.880 --> 01:47:50.880]  I apologize.
[01:47:50.880 --> 01:47:51.880]  Okay.
[01:47:51.880 --> 01:47:53.880]  We're getting a lot of weird beeps and stuff.
[01:47:53.880 --> 01:47:54.880]  Yeah.
[01:47:54.880 --> 01:47:56.880]  That's not working too well.
[01:47:56.880 --> 01:47:59.880]  Can you shut off the speaker phone?
[01:47:59.880 --> 01:48:07.880]  I can.
[01:48:07.880 --> 01:48:08.880]  You there?
[01:48:08.880 --> 01:48:09.880]  Anybody?
[01:48:09.880 --> 01:48:10.880]  Hello, Dallas.
[01:48:10.880 --> 01:48:11.880]  Anybody?
[01:48:11.880 --> 01:48:15.880]  No, we're still getting some serious background noise.
[01:48:15.880 --> 01:48:17.880]  I apologize, guys.
[01:48:17.880 --> 01:48:18.880]  Go ahead and move on.
[01:48:18.880 --> 01:48:19.880]  I'll try again.
[01:48:19.880 --> 01:48:20.880]  No, no.
[01:48:20.880 --> 01:48:21.880]  That's better.
[01:48:21.880 --> 01:48:22.880]  Okay.
[01:48:22.880 --> 01:48:23.880]  Keep going.
[01:48:23.880 --> 01:48:24.880]  Okay.
[01:48:24.880 --> 01:48:25.880]  Here you go.
[01:48:25.880 --> 01:48:26.880]  Damn.
[01:48:26.880 --> 01:48:27.880]  Now you're beeping again.
[01:48:27.880 --> 01:48:29.880]  Did you take it off the speaker phone?
[01:48:29.880 --> 01:48:30.880]  Yes, I did.
[01:48:30.880 --> 01:48:32.880]  I'm speaking into the mic.
[01:48:32.880 --> 01:48:33.880]  Okay.
[01:48:33.880 --> 01:48:34.880]  We'll try that.
[01:48:34.880 --> 01:48:35.880]  Sure.
[01:48:35.880 --> 01:48:39.880]  I witnessed something in a local county courthouse here that kind of struck me as being odd.
[01:48:39.880 --> 01:48:44.880]  I happened to be there on a morning where they were doing some property tax hearing,
[01:48:44.880 --> 01:48:46.880]  and they called the docket.
[01:48:46.880 --> 01:48:52.880]  Immediately after calling the docket, the judge instructed the men and women that were there
[01:48:52.880 --> 01:48:57.880]  for these particular property tax hearings that they were all going to go downstairs
[01:48:57.880 --> 01:49:01.880]  into another little room along with the attorney and the people from the school district
[01:49:01.880 --> 01:49:05.880]  and the people from the appraisal, blah, blah, blah.
[01:49:05.880 --> 01:49:09.880]  All of this was to take place off the record.
[01:49:09.880 --> 01:49:12.880]  Let's make a deal.
[01:49:12.880 --> 01:49:14.880]  Okay.
[01:49:14.880 --> 01:49:15.880]  This wasn't open.
[01:49:15.880 --> 01:49:18.880]  I mean, it's open to the public, so I just kind of joined in the group,
[01:49:18.880 --> 01:49:20.880]  and I followed them down there.
[01:49:20.880 --> 01:49:27.880]  The whole deal was this attorney told these men and women that I'm not here to do anything,
[01:49:27.880 --> 01:49:32.880]  but know when and how you're going to pay.
[01:49:32.880 --> 01:49:41.880]  I thought that was a little odd because it seems to me that doesn't exactly follow due process.
[01:49:41.880 --> 01:49:43.880]  It sure doesn't.
[01:49:43.880 --> 01:49:52.880]  The judge can order them to mediation, but if the prosecutor or whoever the attorney is
[01:49:52.880 --> 01:49:59.880]  is not actually doing mediation, then I would consider that improper.
[01:49:59.880 --> 01:50:05.880]  That's exactly kind of what I thought, and I was wondering if it had been me in that position.
[01:50:05.880 --> 01:50:10.880]  I wonder if it would have been prudent to say, excuse me, but I think I object to this
[01:50:10.880 --> 01:50:17.880]  because I don't have any interest in discussing any matter pertaining to these cases off the record.
[01:50:17.880 --> 01:50:21.880]  Everything I have to say, I want to say on the record.
[01:50:21.880 --> 01:50:24.880]  Yeah, absolutely you can do that.
[01:50:24.880 --> 01:50:31.880]  I had a judge recently want to go into chambers and discuss something not going to happen.
[01:50:31.880 --> 01:50:32.880]  All right, okay.
[01:50:32.880 --> 01:50:33.880]  Excellent.
[01:50:33.880 --> 01:50:34.880]  You've got something to say.
[01:50:34.880 --> 01:50:36.880]  We say it out here in public.
[01:50:36.880 --> 01:50:37.880]  That's right.
[01:50:37.880 --> 01:50:43.880]  Last time I did that, I got beaten up, thrown in jail, and they made up lies about what went on in private.
[01:50:43.880 --> 01:50:45.880]  That ain't happening again.
[01:50:45.880 --> 01:50:52.880]  No, and I hope they don't want to beat me up and throw me in jail for $1,000 with the property taxes.
[01:50:52.880 --> 01:50:57.880]  Definitely you don't have to talk to that lawyer.
[01:50:57.880 --> 01:50:58.880]  I don't.
[01:50:58.880 --> 01:50:59.880]  Absolutely not.
[01:50:59.880 --> 01:51:01.880]  Tell him to go scratch.
[01:51:01.880 --> 01:51:04.880]  Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
[01:51:04.880 --> 01:51:12.880]  They would allege that this would be a civil matter in the nature of a contract, yet they cannot produce a contract.
[01:51:12.880 --> 01:51:20.880]  So I think that some challenges to subject matter as well as in personum jurisdiction would be proven.
[01:51:20.880 --> 01:51:21.880]  Personum they probably have.
[01:51:21.880 --> 01:51:24.880]  Subject matter you can probably get to.
[01:51:24.880 --> 01:51:28.880]  But you might call in and talk to Eddie on the Monday night show.
[01:51:28.880 --> 01:51:32.880]  He is also well versed in property tax issues.
[01:51:32.880 --> 01:51:35.880]  Yes, and I know you guys have spent a tremendous amount of time in the courts here in Texas,
[01:51:35.880 --> 01:51:38.880]  and I appreciate all that you do, so thank you very much.
[01:51:38.880 --> 01:51:40.880]  Okay, thank you, Dallas.
[01:51:40.880 --> 01:51:45.880]  Okay, now we're going to go to Brian in Illinois.
[01:51:45.880 --> 01:51:46.880]  Hello, Brian.
[01:51:46.880 --> 01:51:47.880]  Hello, Randall.
[01:51:47.880 --> 01:51:49.880]  How are you today?
[01:51:49.880 --> 01:51:50.880]  I am good.
[01:51:50.880 --> 01:51:52.880]  What do you have for us today?
[01:51:52.880 --> 01:51:58.880]  Well, I wanted to tell you that I followed your instructions, and I had an absolute blast.
[01:51:58.880 --> 01:52:02.880]  I haven't had so much fun in probably 20 years.
[01:52:02.880 --> 01:52:09.880]  I had a hearing at a local municipality, and to be honest with you,
[01:52:09.880 --> 01:52:12.880]  I spent all night preparing, trying to memorize the statutes.
[01:52:12.880 --> 01:52:20.880]  And I basically by the end of the hearing, I had turned the tables on the adjudicator,
[01:52:20.880 --> 01:52:22.880]  and he was pretty much shaking.
[01:52:22.880 --> 01:52:26.880]  His hands, when he was holding the documents, his hands were shaking so excessively.
[01:52:26.880 --> 01:52:30.880]  It was like somebody had a 9-millimeter to his head.
[01:52:30.880 --> 01:52:38.880]  And I mean, I've hired attorneys to represent me in other cases,
[01:52:38.880 --> 01:52:43.880]  and they never had power like that or showed their power like that in court,
[01:52:43.880 --> 01:52:46.880]  and I just couldn't believe it.
[01:52:46.880 --> 01:52:53.880]  And when you say it's a grand time, it's awesome, until you feel that, you're absolutely right.
[01:52:53.880 --> 01:53:00.880]  I mean, you can talk the talk and walk the walk, but until you do it, now I believe you.
[01:53:00.880 --> 01:53:03.880]  Is that fun or what?
[01:53:03.880 --> 01:53:07.880]  And I want everybody to hear me, and do it.
[01:53:07.880 --> 01:53:13.880]  And it was on a red light violation that is not reportable against my driving record,
[01:53:13.880 --> 01:53:20.880]  and they found me guilty, and they fought me at every level, but I was right on every level,
[01:53:20.880 --> 01:53:27.880]  and I handed them the paperwork on every level, and I set it straight on the record on every level.
[01:53:27.880 --> 01:53:30.880]  That's what the appellate court is for.
[01:53:30.880 --> 01:53:34.880]  Well, and that's exactly what I did, what you guys told me to do.
[01:53:34.880 --> 01:53:38.880]  And one of the first things that I did is I told the adjudicator,
[01:53:38.880 --> 01:53:44.880]  I said I need you to produce your bar card and your certifications.
[01:53:44.880 --> 01:53:48.880]  As an adjudicator, you're required to have three years' experience,
[01:53:48.880 --> 01:53:54.880]  and you're supposed to have these four requirements, and here's the statue that says that.
[01:53:54.880 --> 01:53:59.880]  And he wouldn't produce any of the documents to me.
[01:53:59.880 --> 01:54:03.880]  So did you move to disqualify him?
[01:54:03.880 --> 01:54:07.880]  No, but I moved to dismiss the...
[01:54:07.880 --> 01:54:10.880]  Okay, here's a little more fun you can have.
[01:54:10.880 --> 01:54:14.880]  Okay.
[01:54:14.880 --> 01:54:16.880]  Did you bar grieve him yet?
[01:54:16.880 --> 01:54:19.880]  No, no, no, this just happened yesterday.
[01:54:19.880 --> 01:54:20.880]  Oh, good.
[01:54:20.880 --> 01:54:24.880]  Bar grieve him, that'll really give him apoplexy.
[01:54:24.880 --> 01:54:27.880]  Oh, I know, I know, and you should have seen him at the end of the thing.
[01:54:27.880 --> 01:54:36.880]  He goes, I have to go out and have a cigarette.
[01:54:36.880 --> 01:54:37.880]  That's good.
[01:54:37.880 --> 01:54:41.880]  You know, you do this in a red light.
[01:54:41.880 --> 01:54:44.880]  Is this one of those red light camera deals?
[01:54:44.880 --> 01:54:51.880]  Yeah, there's a certain company in a certain state that everybody is familiar with that is involved with most of these municipalities.
[01:54:51.880 --> 01:54:57.880]  So, I mean, this is about as not a big deal as you can get.
[01:54:57.880 --> 01:55:01.880]  Oh, exactly, yeah, it doesn't even count on my driver's record if I'm found guilty.
[01:55:01.880 --> 01:55:04.880]  So who cares?
[01:55:04.880 --> 01:55:06.880]  Once you've done this...
[01:55:06.880 --> 01:55:10.880]  Anyway, right, right, but I wasted the time for an hour.
[01:55:10.880 --> 01:55:18.880]  You know, I made him produce papers, I made him spend money on sending me certified letters, and I haven't paid a dime yet.
[01:55:18.880 --> 01:55:26.880]  And if the judge failed to follow the law, you need to send a tort letter to the city,
[01:55:26.880 --> 01:55:36.880]  noticing then that the judge denied you in your rights and you were harmed by this amount, make behold would be sued.
[01:55:36.880 --> 01:55:40.880]  Now, this is very, very interesting.
[01:55:40.880 --> 01:55:51.880]  They have a statute that says if they use a videotape or a photo, that that videotape or that photo must have a time stamp stating the time, the date, the location.
[01:55:51.880 --> 01:56:00.880]  Well, when he ID'd my vehicle and, you know, saying that I was the registered owner, and when they used the videotape to prosecute me,
[01:56:00.880 --> 01:56:04.880]  none of those photos or tapes had those time stamps.
[01:56:04.880 --> 01:56:09.880]  And I brought those up to him, and it was the same thing like the other gentleman said,
[01:56:09.880 --> 01:56:16.880]  yeah, that might be it, but that's not how I see it, and found me guilty, you know?
[01:56:16.880 --> 01:56:19.880]  So judicial conduct complaints the judge.
[01:56:19.880 --> 01:56:21.880]  Yeah.
[01:56:21.880 --> 01:56:24.880]  These things are so powerful.
[01:56:24.880 --> 01:56:28.880]  You know, lawyers never do that kind of thing to judges and other lawyers.
[01:56:28.880 --> 01:56:35.880]  Now, I have one other thing to ask you. We were in the middle of the hearing, and I had him going for about 25 minutes,
[01:56:35.880 --> 01:56:45.880]  and as I was reading off the ordinances, you know, with my arguments, he goes, I'm not going to argue with these issues with you.
[01:56:45.880 --> 01:56:55.880]  Just hand me what you have as proof, and we'll go to the next issue, and I'll put it in as, what do they call that?
[01:56:55.880 --> 01:56:57.880]  Judicial notice?
[01:56:57.880 --> 01:57:01.880]  No, not, he marked it as exhibits.
[01:57:01.880 --> 01:57:02.880]  Okay.
[01:57:02.880 --> 01:57:07.880]  You know, as I handed in my, you know, arguments to him, and then what he did is he goes, you know what?
[01:57:07.880 --> 01:57:16.880]  This is taking too long. You go sit down. I'm going to go and handle these other people in front of you, okay?
[01:57:16.880 --> 01:57:23.880]  And so I sat down, and I think he handed my paperwork to somebody else, and they started reading it,
[01:57:23.880 --> 01:57:33.880]  and basically when I went to sit down, somebody pulled their placards off of where they sit at the podium,
[01:57:33.880 --> 01:57:39.880]  and they put their placards with their names down so I couldn't write their names.
[01:57:39.880 --> 01:57:42.880]  Wonderful.
[01:57:42.880 --> 01:57:51.880]  And then when they called me back up, that's where I noticed he was shaken, and then I gained my momentum, and then I just whacked him at the end.
[01:57:51.880 --> 01:57:54.880]  This is great. You need to do more of this.
[01:57:54.880 --> 01:57:57.880]  Go get more tickets. Think of all the fun.
[01:57:57.880 --> 01:57:59.880]  Go get more tickets.
[01:57:59.880 --> 01:58:01.880]  Get some good ones.
[01:58:01.880 --> 01:58:03.880]  Yeah.
[01:58:03.880 --> 01:58:05.880]  Okay, thank you, Brian.
[01:58:05.880 --> 01:58:08.880]  Yep. All right, Randy, I'll send you a follow-up email.
[01:58:08.880 --> 01:58:10.880]  Okay, thank you.
[01:58:10.880 --> 01:58:11.880]  Okay, bye-bye.
[01:58:11.880 --> 01:58:12.880]  Okay.
[01:58:12.880 --> 01:58:18.880]  Okay, this is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Steve Skidmore, Rue La Radio.
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