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[03:18.880 --> 03:46.080]  Okay, so this is Joe Esquivel, Randy Kelton, and Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio.
[03:46.080 --> 03:51.600]  We were talking, Randy, about fraud in the factum.
[03:51.600 --> 04:04.160]  And this is where the homeowner has been brought into a contract, and very many times the homeowner
[04:04.160 --> 04:12.360]  has not been educated to have an understanding to the transactions that were going to take
[04:12.360 --> 04:15.800]  place when you went to close it.
[04:15.800 --> 04:16.800]  Correct.
[04:16.800 --> 04:25.480]  It was an assumption on the homeowner's part that the people in front of her did their
[04:25.480 --> 04:28.600]  fiduciary responsibility.
[04:28.600 --> 04:31.960]  They had read the documents, there was an understanding, everything was on the up and
[04:31.960 --> 04:32.960]  up.
[04:32.960 --> 04:42.040]  Yes, when I produce a document, one of the paragraphs we put in there is that the borrower
[04:42.040 --> 04:52.520]  exercised due diligence in that the borrower by statute is a unsophisticated purchaser.
[04:52.520 --> 04:58.760]  And the borrower exercised due diligence in ensuring that he only dealt with licensed
[04:58.760 --> 05:07.960]  professionals in whom he could hold a reasonable expectation of good faith and fair dealing.
[05:07.960 --> 05:15.200]  So it wasn't necessary for us to try to read and understand every document put before us
[05:15.200 --> 05:21.280]  because by statute, we're incapable of effectively doing that.
[05:21.280 --> 05:27.440]  And that's why we have licensed professionals who are subject to governmental oversight.
[05:27.440 --> 05:28.600]  Correct.
[05:28.600 --> 05:33.880]  And take it one step further, Randy, there is a large number of states out there that
[05:33.880 --> 05:42.800]  require the homeowner pay an attorney, pay an attorney to review the documents presented
[05:42.800 --> 05:45.840]  to the homeowner.
[05:45.840 --> 05:49.120]  And the attorneys tell the homeowner, yeah, I've read it, it looks like it, sign here,
[05:49.120 --> 05:50.120]  here and here.
[05:50.120 --> 06:00.640]  When in fact, he's telling the homeowner, you're signing a document that is a legal
[06:00.640 --> 06:10.200]  enforcement possibility, that security interest is being sold.
[06:10.200 --> 06:13.480]  That payment and tangible obligation is being sold.
[06:13.480 --> 06:21.640]  The security instrument cannot follow a partial interest of the note.
[06:21.640 --> 06:29.200]  So again, it's filed, indexed, recorded at the county recorder's office.
[06:29.200 --> 06:34.080]  We have prima facie evidence of the intent.
[06:34.080 --> 06:41.160]  And now when they do this and they, for example, they sell an interest to Fannie Mae, they backed
[06:41.160 --> 06:45.320]  up their intent, they did what they were going to do.
[06:45.320 --> 06:51.320]  They sold in interest of their promissory note.
[06:51.320 --> 07:00.040]  And the homeowner had no idea that what they were doing was a legal impossibility because
[07:00.040 --> 07:05.960]  that security instrument could not follow that partial interest of the tangible promissory
[07:05.960 --> 07:06.960]  note.
[07:06.960 --> 07:14.240]  It could only follow a properly secured tangible promissory note.
[07:14.240 --> 07:16.120]  An entire note.
[07:16.120 --> 07:22.880]  But in its entirety, and go on.
[07:22.880 --> 07:29.840]  There is something that I've been kind of kicking around in trying to understand all
[07:29.840 --> 07:34.520]  of these different issues that are going on.
[07:34.520 --> 07:45.320]  This, I've made a big deal of this issue about the banks using the residential real property
[07:45.320 --> 07:55.600]  market as a tool to launder money and trying to sort out exactly how they do that.
[07:55.600 --> 07:59.960]  And I would like to kind of get your opinion on this.
[07:59.960 --> 08:08.520]  We have a lender who comes before the borrower, represents himself as the source of funding.
[08:08.520 --> 08:20.560]  Well, if it's a table-funded note, then the odds are that the lender comes before the
[08:20.560 --> 08:29.880]  borrower and gives the impression that the lender, being a licensed lender and having
[08:29.880 --> 08:36.680]  a Federal Reserve account, they give the impression that the lender will go to the Federal Reserve
[08:36.680 --> 08:42.800]  and draw the funds from the Federal Reserve to finance the transaction.
[08:42.800 --> 08:50.320]  And the Federal Reserve creates this money out of thin air, just with an entry on a ledger.
[08:50.320 --> 08:58.800]  Then when the funds are paid back, the lender will return those funds to the Federal Reserve
[08:58.800 --> 09:03.680]  and the mark will be taken off the ledger, sending the money back to the thin air from
[09:03.680 --> 09:05.240]  which it came.
[09:05.240 --> 09:08.800]  But I don't believe that's what's happening at all.
[09:08.800 --> 09:09.800]  Well, no.
[09:09.800 --> 09:19.640]  I mean, one, you can go back to Federal Reserve banking publication that came out in 1968,
[09:19.640 --> 09:24.880]  Modern Money Mechanics, and it came out from the Chicago Federal Reserve.
[09:24.880 --> 09:33.800]  And I believe it was on page 13 that was stated, money is created when loans are given.
[09:33.800 --> 09:40.120]  Again, money is created when loans are given.
[09:40.120 --> 09:42.160]  Now let's take it further.
[09:42.160 --> 09:50.320]  If one were to check their escrow incoming wire transfer log, which I have, for myself,
[09:50.320 --> 09:57.440]  now even though it says on page two of my promissory note, for a loan I have received,
[09:57.440 --> 10:02.000]  that's past tense, for a loan I have received, wait a minute.
[10:02.000 --> 10:09.520]  I put have, and I haven't even signed this document, evidencing a legal debt that I'm
[10:09.520 --> 10:13.480]  about to incur.
[10:13.480 --> 10:21.000]  And when I go back and I check this escrow incoming wire transfer log, Randy, it says
[10:21.000 --> 10:26.480]  account from, and then it says Bank of New York Mellon, wait a minute, they're not a
[10:26.480 --> 10:28.800]  party on my note.
[10:28.800 --> 10:37.600]  And then it says, requested by Countrywide Home Loans, transfer to Fidelity National
[10:37.600 --> 10:44.160]  Title Company account number, blah, blah, blah, but wait a minute, why wasn't I allowed
[10:44.160 --> 10:50.640]  to contact Bank of New York Mellon, mine said Countrywide Home Loans, this is confusing
[10:50.640 --> 10:53.520]  from the get go.
[10:53.520 --> 11:02.320]  So it appears as though they're actually securing the funds from New York Mellon and not Federal
[11:02.320 --> 11:07.000]  Reserve, yes.
[11:07.000 --> 11:17.320]  What I'm thinking is, if the lender poses as, the originator poses as the lender, then
[11:17.320 --> 11:23.320]  it gives the impression the funds are legally drawn from the Federal Reserve, but what if
[11:23.320 --> 11:24.920]  they're not?
[11:24.920 --> 11:34.600]  What if the funds are actually drawn from Mexican or Colombian drug cartels?
[11:34.600 --> 11:42.080]  Then Fannie Mae, right after consummation of the note, Fannie Mae purchases and the money
[11:42.080 --> 11:50.160]  comes back to the true source of the money, special purpose vehicle, and that money has
[11:50.160 --> 11:54.800]  the appearance now of being laundered.
[11:54.800 --> 12:00.800]  And with the perception that the money will go back to the Federal Reserve from which
[12:00.800 --> 12:11.240]  it came, but it doesn't, it goes back to the accounts of the drug cartels laundered.
[12:11.240 --> 12:18.040]  I was looking at what is Fannie Mae doing in the middle of all of this?
[12:18.040 --> 12:22.240]  And it looks like they're in the middle of all of this to help launder all this money.
[12:22.240 --> 12:30.560]  No, actually, Fannie Mae has a get out of jail card in all of that.
[12:30.560 --> 12:43.600]  Because Fannie Mae has requirements that require the sellers of these loans to follow statutory
[12:43.600 --> 12:52.440]  requirements of law regarding a valid claim to the mortgage title.
[12:52.440 --> 12:58.640]  And Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac both have this verbiage within documentation that I have
[12:58.640 --> 13:06.920]  that states the sellers of these mortgage notes shall meet the technological, operational,
[13:06.920 --> 13:13.800]  and statutory requirements of law in order to have a valid enforceable mortgage loan.
[13:13.800 --> 13:16.680]  Yeah, I've heard that crapola before.
[13:16.680 --> 13:21.320]  It's like when I was in the military, we were flying fire support for ground troops and
[13:21.320 --> 13:25.480]  my twin brother with boots on the ground in Vietnam.
[13:25.480 --> 13:31.760]  By the book, we can load 40, 750 pounders per shift.
[13:31.760 --> 13:35.840]  They would bring us a frag for 250.
[13:35.840 --> 13:42.960]  And then they give us a strict order that we will load by the book.
[13:42.960 --> 13:49.720]  The strict order meant nothing, because they created a condition to where we could not
[13:49.720 --> 13:51.920]  load by the book.
[13:51.920 --> 13:53.520]  This is what Fannie Mae is doing.
[13:53.520 --> 13:59.880]  They're creating a fraudulent condition, and then they're saying, oh, by the way, you guys
[13:59.880 --> 14:07.640]  have to follow law when they create the condition that's intended to not follow law.
[14:07.640 --> 14:10.320]  That will not be a get out of jail free court.
[14:10.320 --> 14:16.080]  Well, the whole point of Fannie Mae is, I mean, they are a for-profit entity.
[14:16.080 --> 14:22.280]  Even though just because they were chartered by Congress in 38 and Freddie Mac was chartered
[14:22.280 --> 14:27.560]  in 68, fine, so you're chartered, all right?
[14:27.560 --> 14:33.000]  Your goal is to provide a ROI, return on investment.
[14:33.000 --> 14:37.720]  You have an obligation to your shareholders to make the most money.
[14:37.720 --> 14:39.760]  And that's what they're doing.
[14:39.760 --> 14:45.160]  They give two hoots about, was it done legitimately?
[14:45.160 --> 14:50.240]  This is a greed driven machine, Randy.
[14:50.240 --> 14:56.360]  The more greed that gets in the way, the more the machine is driven.
[14:56.360 --> 14:59.120]  And right now it's spun out of control.
[14:59.120 --> 15:05.440]  Well, let's see if we can't bring this thing back in control.
[15:05.440 --> 15:07.800]  That's what I've been working on.
[15:07.800 --> 15:14.640]  And it looks like we're going to have to start going after the individuals perpetrating the
[15:14.640 --> 15:20.680]  acts criminally in order to get any traction.
[15:20.680 --> 15:23.320]  Because otherwise they just don't care.
[15:23.320 --> 15:29.240]  You know, right now, if you have a foreclosure issue, if you don't sue them, they don't even
[15:29.240 --> 15:31.640]  pay any attention to you at all.
[15:31.640 --> 15:36.200]  But even when you do, they pretty well seem to have bought the courts.
[15:36.200 --> 15:37.600]  So they're not terribly concerned.
[15:37.600 --> 15:46.760]  They have unlimited funds, but they don't have unlimited liberty.
[15:46.760 --> 15:51.520]  We need to start taking these guys to the same task they would take us to.
[15:51.520 --> 15:57.240]  And see, instead of appealing to the court of appeals, we start appealing to a grand
[15:57.240 --> 15:59.880]  jury of our peers.
[15:59.880 --> 16:02.520]  We are likely to change the landscape.
[16:02.520 --> 16:06.040]  Mylon, I see you there.
[16:06.040 --> 16:07.040]  We're about to go to break.
[16:07.040 --> 16:11.400]  When we come back from break, we will pick up your call.
[16:11.400 --> 16:15.920]  Our call in number is 512-646-1984.
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[16:16.920 --> 16:24.280]  We're into the third hour, and the calls generally pick up toward the end.
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[16:28.480 --> 16:31.280]  We'll start taking calls when we come back.
[16:31.280 --> 16:40.040]  We're here with Joe Esquivel, our resident expert on securitization, Randy Kelton.
[16:40.040 --> 16:47.400]  And maybe if we're lucky, Dave will show up in this second and third hour, no, second
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[19:05.800 --> 19:17.200]  Well, don't let nothing get to you, only the Father can deliver you.
[19:17.200 --> 19:23.520]  Don't let bad-minded people hurt you until they say something, get behind them.
[19:23.520 --> 19:28.320]  You know what I mean, my friend, knowledge at your service.
[19:28.320 --> 19:29.320]  Come on.
[19:29.320 --> 19:57.320]  Trust in God, my friend, tell Him you're probably in pain, call on His name once again,
[19:57.320 --> 20:21.720]  let me tell you how He worked me in.
[20:21.720 --> 20:22.720]  Okay.
[20:22.720 --> 20:23.720]  We are back.
[20:23.720 --> 20:26.000]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule Of Law Radio.
[20:26.000 --> 20:29.680]  And we're going to go to Mylan in Texas.
[20:29.680 --> 20:31.720]  Hello, Mylan.
[20:31.720 --> 20:35.600]  Hello, it's actually Milan.
[20:35.600 --> 20:37.360]  Milan, okay.
[20:37.360 --> 20:39.400]  My bad, my bad.
[20:39.400 --> 20:41.000]  Don't worry.
[20:41.000 --> 20:48.520]  I actually met you at High Park Grill with Mary Krennic a long time ago and I had quite
[20:48.520 --> 20:53.160]  the case going on, which I lost thanks to some crappy lawyers.
[20:53.160 --> 21:00.160]  And they sanctioned me and now, but now I feel like they're targeting me for trying
[21:00.160 --> 21:02.040]  to get justice for myself.
[21:02.040 --> 21:06.040]  It's totally unrelated subject, so I don't know if you want to talk about it now or maybe
[21:06.040 --> 21:11.480]  offline, give me your numbers, we could reconnect.
[21:11.480 --> 21:20.440]  But I got re-arrested for nothing, basically stopped fines that they made up and he pulled
[21:20.440 --> 21:25.200]  me out of the car and jacked up my arms that I'm resisting.
[21:25.200 --> 21:27.560]  I was like, well, what am I being arrested for?
[21:27.560 --> 21:30.680]  And then they tortured me for 30 hours in jail.
[21:30.680 --> 21:38.000]  And now they've separated that one incident into like four different cases and like three
[21:38.000 --> 21:39.000]  different courts.
[21:39.000 --> 21:40.000]  Okay.
[21:40.000 --> 21:41.000]  Wait a minute.
[21:41.000 --> 21:42.520]  I am totally confused.
[21:42.520 --> 21:46.120]  I have no idea where you're going.
[21:46.120 --> 21:52.640]  Do you have a something to address other than that they're bad guys?
[21:52.640 --> 21:54.760]  I got that part.
[21:54.760 --> 22:05.840]  Well, how do you, when they don't even issue proper summons or they're not even, the cops
[22:05.840 --> 22:13.400]  lie on the entire report and I ordered jurisdictionary and stuff, but like, how do you?
[22:13.400 --> 22:14.880]  Wait a minute.
[22:14.880 --> 22:17.760]  Have you been through jurisdictionary?
[22:17.760 --> 22:19.240]  I haven't finished it.
[22:19.240 --> 22:22.520]  I'm, I'm just in the middle.
[22:22.520 --> 22:23.520]  Okay.
[22:23.520 --> 22:27.040]  It's important that you get through that.
[22:27.040 --> 22:36.120]  You will have a lot better idea of the tools you have available to address these issues.
[22:36.120 --> 22:42.320]  Listening to the way you're describing the issue, it tells me you don't have a grasp
[22:42.320 --> 22:45.120]  of the underlying law.
[22:45.120 --> 22:47.400]  The only way we're going to do this is.
[22:47.400 --> 22:48.400]  Yeah.
[22:48.400 --> 22:52.960]  I just felt like they're jerking me around and putting court dates on the same day.
[22:52.960 --> 22:53.960]  Big deal.
[22:53.960 --> 22:54.960]  Join the club.
[22:54.960 --> 23:02.920]  They jerk us all around and they're going to jerk you around until you start jerking
[23:02.920 --> 23:04.800]  back.
[23:04.800 --> 23:09.680]  How many criminal complaints have you filed against them with the district attorney?
[23:09.680 --> 23:10.680]  None.
[23:10.680 --> 23:14.760]  Well, duh.
[23:14.760 --> 23:18.000]  They can jerk you around all they want to.
[23:18.000 --> 23:21.320]  So I just need to fight, start fighting.
[23:21.320 --> 23:24.280]  They take one little tug at me.
[23:24.280 --> 23:27.960]  They get a 911 call.
[23:27.960 --> 23:34.560]  I just went before a justice of the peace in Lake Worth, Texas and she was extremely
[23:34.560 --> 23:43.000]  careful because the last time I was in her courtroom, I was in the front part of it and
[23:43.000 --> 23:47.600]  I asked to see some records and her clerks give me a bit of a hard time, but I pressed
[23:47.600 --> 23:48.600]  them.
[23:48.600 --> 23:54.960]  They brought me the records and then the magistrate came out and said, you can't look at those
[23:54.960 --> 24:01.560]  records because you are a security risk.
[24:01.560 --> 24:05.840]  And I said, I've already got them open looking at them, I said, I can't look at these records
[24:05.840 --> 24:06.840]  I've already looking at.
[24:06.840 --> 24:08.240]  No, you can't look at those.
[24:08.240 --> 24:09.240]  You're a security risk.
[24:09.240 --> 24:14.440]  So I closed them, pushed them back and the bailiff had kind of eased up there by this
[24:14.440 --> 24:16.880]  time and I said, Mr. Bailiff, did you hear that?
[24:16.880 --> 24:20.040]  Yes, Mr. Kelton, I did.
[24:20.040 --> 24:22.840]  I said, arrest that woman.
[24:22.840 --> 24:26.440]  He said, Mr. Kelton, if you create a disturbance, I'll arrest you.
[24:26.440 --> 24:28.080]  I said, are you threatening me?
[24:28.080 --> 24:29.440]  No, Mr. Kelton.
[24:29.440 --> 24:32.160]  I just want to get, are you threatening me?
[24:32.160 --> 24:35.280]  Well, no, Mr. Kelton, then arrest that woman.
[24:35.280 --> 24:38.400]  And the justice of peace stand right there in front of me.
[24:38.400 --> 24:39.400]  Why can't arrest her?
[24:39.400 --> 24:40.400]  This is her court.
[24:40.400 --> 24:41.400]  Of course you can.
[24:41.400 --> 24:42.400]  I'm sorry.
[24:42.400 --> 24:43.400]  She said, this is her court.
[24:43.400 --> 24:44.400]  You're mistaken.
[24:44.400 --> 24:46.960]  It is not her court.
[24:46.960 --> 24:53.320]  This is my court and I very generously allow her to administer it according to my law and
[24:53.320 --> 24:57.000]  she just broke one of them in your sight and in your presence, arrest her.
[24:57.000 --> 25:02.280]  Oh no, Mr. Kelton, I'm not going to arrest the judge.
[25:02.280 --> 25:05.240]  I said, Mr. Bailiff, I want you to take your chicken suit off.
[25:05.240 --> 25:12.920]  Mr. Kelton, I am not going to take my chicken suit off and get me somebody to arrest you.
[25:12.920 --> 25:21.440]  This is, if we don't start taking them to task, then we're going to keep getting more
[25:21.440 --> 25:23.960]  of the same.
[25:23.960 --> 25:29.360]  When you start taking them to task and the only way you're going to take them to task
[25:29.360 --> 25:34.400]  is you have to read the code.
[25:34.400 --> 25:37.240]  Get out the penal code.
[25:37.240 --> 25:41.080]  It's not very big.
[25:41.080 --> 25:47.800]  It looks big, but that's because everything is out mined and it's filled with white space
[25:47.800 --> 25:52.560]  and there's a lot of that stuff when you look at it, that don't have anything to do with
[25:52.560 --> 25:53.560]  me.
[25:53.560 --> 25:59.920]  The first part of it, the first 40 or 50 pages, you read through it.
[25:59.920 --> 26:05.640]  Don't try to understand it, just cruise right through it and then go back and read it again.
[26:05.640 --> 26:12.200]  The reason you do that is the legislature passes the laws as they come to them and they
[26:12.200 --> 26:15.280]  put the law in the public law.
[26:15.280 --> 26:19.760]  They make it the public law and they put it in the register.
[26:19.760 --> 26:25.920]  The law winds up all scattered through the registry.
[26:25.920 --> 26:33.360]  The state hired a publishing company to go through the registry, pull out all the laws,
[26:33.360 --> 26:36.800]  for instance, all the laws that go to crimes.
[26:36.800 --> 26:41.880]  Let's put these all together in a logical order.
[26:41.880 --> 26:48.960]  You have laws in the front that when you read it, it's not clear what they're going to.
[26:48.960 --> 26:56.600]  When you read article 2.11 that says that when a magistrate sits for the purpose of
[26:56.600 --> 27:02.240]  examining into a criminal accusation, that is an examining trial, that is an examining
[27:02.240 --> 27:03.240]  court.
[27:03.240 --> 27:08.200]  Why don't we make much sense until you get to chapter 16?
[27:08.200 --> 27:10.880]  Chapter 16 defines an examining court.
[27:10.880 --> 27:13.800]  These are all of the things they have to do.
[27:13.800 --> 27:20.000]  The second time you read it and you get to 2.11, you will say, ah, that's what they're
[27:20.000 --> 27:22.480]  referring to.
[27:22.480 --> 27:29.040]  The second time you go through it, you will know their code better than they do.
[27:29.040 --> 27:34.800]  I talked to my local county attorney, he's the district attorney now, and he warned me
[27:34.800 --> 27:39.160]  about the illegal practice of law and I said, ah, you don't have to worry about that.
[27:39.160 --> 27:44.360]  That only goes to representing somebody in a personal injury suit, action.
[27:44.360 --> 27:45.360]  He said, what?
[27:45.360 --> 27:49.600]  I said, yeah, yeah, look up 38.122, or 123.
[27:49.600 --> 27:53.440]  He looked it up and it said exactly what I told him.
[27:53.440 --> 27:57.680]  I said, Greg, you ought to be ashamed of yourself.
[27:57.680 --> 27:59.680]  When was the last time you read that thing?
[27:59.680 --> 28:03.520]  He said, well, Mr. Kelton, I don't know that I've ever read the whole thing.
[28:03.520 --> 28:07.400]  Oh, you ought to be ashamed of yourself.
[28:07.400 --> 28:12.720]  He said, well, Mr. Kelton, I don't know of a single lawyer who's read the whole thing.
[28:12.720 --> 28:15.560]  Oh, my, gee.
[28:15.560 --> 28:17.360]  I said, that's pitiful.
[28:17.360 --> 28:19.640]  He said, yes, it is.
[28:19.640 --> 28:21.240]  And that's true.
[28:21.240 --> 28:22.240]  Okay.
[28:22.240 --> 28:24.200]  They are learning counsel.
[28:24.200 --> 28:29.120]  These guys get out of law school and they don't know squat.
[28:29.120 --> 28:33.000]  They know how, they learn how to argue issues.
[28:33.000 --> 28:34.480]  They don't learn how to practice law.
[28:34.480 --> 28:35.720]  They don't learn how to file a motion.
[28:35.720 --> 28:37.680]  All that stuff in Jurisdictionary.
[28:37.680 --> 28:39.520]  They don't learn that in law school.
[28:39.520 --> 28:40.520]  They learn that once they get out.
[28:40.520 --> 28:45.480]  And that's what makes it overwhelming because I'm like reading it and I'm going, well, what
[28:45.480 --> 28:49.960]  do you do when they're not even following those laws, like how do you fix them?
[28:49.960 --> 28:51.320]  You file a criminal charge.
[28:51.320 --> 28:56.680]  You call 911 and report the crime.
[28:56.680 --> 28:58.400]  You are the sovereign.
[28:58.400 --> 29:01.320]  You are the CEO.
[29:01.320 --> 29:05.760]  And Johnson County had this little smart mouth prosecutor.
[29:05.760 --> 29:09.720]  And I told him, Mr. Prosecutor, I think you misunderstand something.
[29:09.720 --> 29:10.720]  You're a public servant.
[29:10.720 --> 29:13.400]  And he said, yes, Mr. Kelton, I am.
[29:13.400 --> 29:14.600]  I pointed at him.
[29:14.600 --> 29:15.600]  You're the servant.
[29:15.600 --> 29:17.160]  Tap my chest.
[29:17.160 --> 29:22.240]  I am the master and you are not to forget it.
[29:22.240 --> 29:30.440]  You need, once you understand that you are the master and they are the servants, you
[29:30.440 --> 29:32.360]  have prescribed law.
[29:32.360 --> 29:35.280]  This is not a democracy you're in.
[29:35.280 --> 29:37.760]  This is a republic.
[29:37.760 --> 29:40.800]  That makes you the sovereign without subjects.
[29:40.800 --> 29:42.840]  You are the CEO.
[29:42.840 --> 29:46.320]  They owe their allegiance to you personally.
[29:46.320 --> 29:50.160]  But if you don't force them into it, they can do anything they want to.
[29:50.160 --> 29:51.160]  Hang on.
[29:51.160 --> 29:54.080]  This is Randy Kelton, David Stevens, Rule of Law Radio.
[29:54.080 --> 29:56.440]  I call it number 512-646-1984.
[29:56.440 --> 30:01.480]  We'll be right back.
[30:01.480 --> 30:06.320]  Passing on knowledge is an age-old tradition, but in our over-regulated society, authorities
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[33:06.160 --> 33:27.160]  Yeah, yeah, I, oh, mmm, yeah, I want to, I want to, I want to, I want to, I want to,
[33:27.160 --> 33:42.120]  I want to, go away.
[33:42.120 --> 33:57.120]  I won't let you pull the wool over my eyes, I certainly must refuse your news, also come in lies.
[33:57.120 --> 34:07.120]  It seems you like to spare, but please take some words to the wise, please stop trying to pull the wool over my eyes.
[34:07.120 --> 34:17.120]  Sorry, I'm sorry we took so long coming back in, but we were trying to find a 10 year old to tell our producer which button to push.
[34:17.120 --> 34:21.120]  I do have a great time picking on our producer.
[34:21.120 --> 34:40.120]  Okay, we're talking to Milan and what I suggest, and I'm basing this suggestion on your original evaluation of the issue.
[34:40.120 --> 34:43.120]  You don't know the right question to ask.
[34:43.120 --> 34:44.120]  Right.
[34:44.120 --> 34:50.120]  Have you ever been to Eddie's class on Sundays at Brave New Books?
[34:50.120 --> 35:05.120]  Well, I did go to that for a while and then actually I am hesitant to say, but the lawyer he works for is one of the ones that screwed me.
[35:05.120 --> 35:08.120]  Screwed me bad.
[35:08.120 --> 35:24.120]  Okay, the thing about lawyers, here's how it works with lawyers. When you have a case in the court, do you play chess?
[35:24.120 --> 35:26.120]  A little.
[35:26.120 --> 35:38.120]  Okay, imagine you're sitting at a three sided chessboard. Instead of one opponent across from you, you have two opponents.
[35:38.120 --> 35:54.120]  In a court situation, you have yourself as one player, you have your lawyer as another player, and you have the other side's lawyer as a third player.
[35:54.120 --> 36:03.120]  The third party's client is irrelevant. You're dealing with your lawyer and his lawyer.
[36:03.120 --> 36:10.120]  It's all about alliances, and your lawyer and his lawyer already have alliances.
[36:10.120 --> 36:19.120]  If you think that your lawyer is there to represent your interests exclusively, you are dreaming.
[36:19.120 --> 36:33.120]  Your lawyer is in business to make money, and in order to be able to facilitate making money, he needs to have a working relationship with the prosecution on the other side.
[36:33.120 --> 36:52.120]  He has an alliance with the prosecutor, and they're going to work the system so that the lawyer can get as much money from you as he can before both lawyers are going to try to extract as much from their clients as they can.
[36:52.120 --> 37:03.120]  Then they're going to come together and try to find a deal that both of the clients can live with and not come back and file grievances and sue them.
[37:03.120 --> 37:12.120]  This is how it works in the world we live in. Now, that may not be right, but that's how it actually works.
[37:12.120 --> 37:26.120]  You will never win your case simply because you have the law and the facts on your side. To think so is naive. You will only win the case if you have the politics on your side, and it all goes to a three-sided chessboard.
[37:26.120 --> 37:42.120]  You have to do something with that lawyer to interfere with his alliance with the prosecutor and make it important to him to ally himself with you.
[37:42.120 --> 37:57.120]  The last case I had in Travis County, I bet that lawyer told me 50 times if he told me once that I was going to get him disbarred.
[37:57.120 --> 38:13.120]  I wanted him to subpoena a judge. I can subpoena a judge. I'll get disbarred. Don't worry about it. He said, I can't examine a judge on the stand. I'll get disbarred. Don't worry about it. I'll do that myself. He lived a long time to be on the stand.
[38:13.120 --> 38:34.120]  You'll get me disbarred. I broke his alliance. Actually, I used his alliance. Now, he's got to go to the other side and take advantage of that alliance and say, look, guys, I'm trying to work this out to help you guys out, but I got an unruly client here.
[38:34.120 --> 38:53.120]  He's going to screw me. You got to help me out. You got to learn how to handle the lawyer. You just got to be smart. You got to figure this out. You don't care what that lawyer did. Don't expect anybody to act in your benefit.
[38:53.120 --> 38:57.120]  No, I know why I'm doing this on my own right now.
[38:57.120 --> 39:03.120]  That's how it always is. No matter what, you can have a lawyer. You're still doing it on your own.
[39:03.120 --> 39:08.120]  Yeah, I know. In the real world, this is how it always works.
[39:08.120 --> 39:16.120]  Yeah, and you're telling them to file certain dismissals and complaints and stuff like, I mean, they had me.
[39:16.120 --> 39:26.120]  Okay, listen, listen, don't complain about what they don't do if you didn't bar-greet him every time he didn't do what you told him to.
[39:26.120 --> 39:38.120]  It's great fun. You bar-greet him. He can't even complain about it. And then if he tries to get removed from the case, you bar-greet him for that.
[39:38.120 --> 39:48.120]  First thing I told this lawyer, he's trying to, they appointed me counsel. I didn't ask for it. The judge said, Mr. Kelton, do you have counsel? I said, no, I don't.
[39:48.120 --> 39:53.120]  Are you going to hire an attorney? Nope. Do you want me to appoint one? I don't care what you do.
[39:53.120 --> 40:01.120]  She said, well, Mr. Kelton, I'm going to appoint you counsel. I said, well, if you do, Judge, make sure you appoint somebody you really don't like.
[40:01.120 --> 40:07.120]  And they appointed this guy, and the first thing he did is told me, this is how things are going to go and blah, blah, blah.
[40:07.120 --> 40:14.120]  I said, wait a minute, wait a minute. That's not how they're going to go. And he got real cocky. Well, it wasn't just how are they going to go.
[40:14.120 --> 40:20.120]  Well, here's how they're going to go. You're going to go to that judge and ask to be removed from this case.
[40:20.120 --> 40:28.120]  And I'm going to go to that judge and tell her, don't you dare remove him from this case. He is my counsel of choice, and he is under contract.
[40:28.120 --> 40:33.120]  And the lawyer said, well, Mr. Kelton, I'm not under contract with you. I'm under contract with the state.
[40:33.120 --> 40:39.120]  He said, yes, you are, but I'm the intended third party beneficiary, and I have standing before the contract.
[40:39.120 --> 40:46.120]  And the judge is going to remove you from the case. He said, yes, you will. Then I get to sue the judge for interfering with the contract.
[40:46.120 --> 40:56.120]  And he sat back in his chair and he looked at me and I could see it in his eyes. This guy's going to get me disbarred.
[40:56.120 --> 41:08.120]  And for the lawyer, it went downhill from there. They dismissed the case to keep me from ending my lawyer's career.
[41:08.120 --> 41:18.120]  You have to fight these guys. Don't trust any of them to do anything in your benefit unless you put them in a position to where they have no alternative.
[41:18.120 --> 41:27.120]  You listen to the show, we will give you some tools to do that with. Go talk, go to Eddie's, get Eddie's seminar he has for traffic.
[41:27.120 --> 41:33.120]  You have a traffic issue. He will give you a whole mountain of tools.
[41:33.120 --> 41:42.120]  When a cop pulls in behind me and his lights come on, I don't get this empty feeling in the pit of my stomach.
[41:42.120 --> 41:49.120]  I look up in rear view mirror and I think, go ahead, Bubba, take your best shot.
[41:49.120 --> 41:56.120]  I'm fixing to give you a romp through the legal system. You are not going to believe.
[41:56.120 --> 42:05.120]  This is empowering and it will give you a freedom you have never known.
[42:05.120 --> 42:11.120]  And it will get rid of a lot of the anger and frustration I hear in your voice.
[42:11.120 --> 42:19.120]  Yeah. Well, and quite honestly, I feel like Eddie gets frustrated at me.
[42:19.120 --> 42:29.120]  I don't know what it is about me, but he seems to not want to help me. I've sent him documents, I've sent him...
[42:29.120 --> 42:34.120]  If you're asking Eddie to do everything for you, he's going to get frustrated.
[42:34.120 --> 42:43.120]  No, I just want to know what to do next. I said I filed this to people and I did this and I don't know. I mean, it's overwhelming.
[42:43.120 --> 42:47.120]  Have you bought his seminar and went through it?
[42:47.120 --> 42:53.120]  No, because I'm going through jurisdictionary and I don't, you know, I'm not super...
[42:53.120 --> 42:55.120]  I don't have a lot of money.
[42:55.120 --> 42:59.120]  Well, it's just a couple hundred bucks. It's chump change.
[42:59.120 --> 43:04.120]  It's way less than what it's going to cost you for these issues.
[43:04.120 --> 43:09.120]  If you don't learn to do it, Eddie can't do it for you.
[43:09.120 --> 43:15.120]  And I understand the frustration. I get frustrated in trying to help people.
[43:15.120 --> 43:22.120]  The hardest thing to overcome is what we learned in school.
[43:22.120 --> 43:26.120]  In school, they tell you about all these great wonderful rights you have.
[43:26.120 --> 43:32.120]  But while they very clearly demonstrate, don't you even think of trying to enforce one of those while you're in this school.
[43:32.120 --> 43:35.120]  The whole weight of the system and land rights score on your head.
[43:35.120 --> 43:41.120]  And then when we get called before court, that's the only response that we have.
[43:41.120 --> 43:46.120]  Go before them feeling like we're called before the principal.
[43:46.120 --> 43:52.120]  We need to change from that to the parent and go in and want to know why you're not doing things right.
[43:52.120 --> 43:54.120]  Hold on. We're going to break.
[43:54.120 --> 43:56.120]  Randy Kelton, W. Stevens, Rule of Law Radio.
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[46:14.120 --> 46:24.120]  Whoa, whoa, yeah.
[46:24.120 --> 46:30.120]  Always, I must be careful what I'm wishing for.
[46:30.120 --> 46:35.120]  When I'm hungry, I like to know just what I'm fishing for.
[46:35.120 --> 46:44.120]  I ain't asking for much, I ain't trying to be no glutton.
[46:44.120 --> 46:45.120]  I'm joking, I'm joking.
[46:45.120 --> 46:49.120]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio.
[46:49.120 --> 46:55.120]  And, Milan, I'm not trying to be difficult, but I understand the frustration.
[46:55.120 --> 47:04.120]  And I also understand the momentum that team tends to keep us in our misery.
[47:04.120 --> 47:09.120]  You have to shift gears. You're clearly not PO'd enough.
[47:09.120 --> 47:15.120]  You've got to get a little bit mad and not just feel mistreated and put upon.
[47:15.120 --> 47:18.120]  At some point, you've got to be like Eddie Chiles.
[47:18.120 --> 47:24.120]  I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore and pick this up.
[47:24.120 --> 47:35.120]  We try to change this state of mind from being called before the principal to being the parent,
[47:35.120 --> 47:42.120]  being called going into the principal, wanting to know what in the heck is going on here.
[47:42.120 --> 47:48.120]  If you can shift to that gear, all of these problems will change dramatically.
[47:48.120 --> 47:53.120]  As a matter of fact, you won't perceive them as problems anymore.
[47:53.120 --> 47:56.120]  They are not problems. They are opportunities.
[47:56.120 --> 48:02.120]  They're opportunities for you to help change and fix the system.
[48:02.120 --> 48:08.120]  I have some children. My brother was talking once about the problems he has with his kids.
[48:08.120 --> 48:10.120]  And then he stopped and he said,
[48:10.120 --> 48:14.120]  Randall, I don't remember you ever talking about the problems you had with your kids.
[48:14.120 --> 48:18.120]  And I said, well, I thought about it and I said, well, I really haven't had any.
[48:18.120 --> 48:21.120]  Well, didn't they ever do anything wrong? Oh, sure they did.
[48:21.120 --> 48:26.120]  But those weren't problems. Those are opportunities.
[48:26.120 --> 48:29.120]  I get opportunities to teach them.
[48:29.120 --> 48:33.120]  I think of my public officials like my grandchildren.
[48:33.120 --> 48:35.120]  I love them dearly.
[48:35.120 --> 48:42.120]  But if one of them runs out into the street, I'm fixing to tan his hide.
[48:42.120 --> 48:46.120]  We need to do the same thing to our public officials.
[48:46.120 --> 48:50.120]  You are the sovereign.
[48:50.120 --> 48:52.120]  This is your duty.
[48:52.120 --> 48:57.120]  You don't get to sit back and say, oh, poor me, poor me.
[48:57.120 --> 48:59.120]  They mistreated me, woe is me.
[48:59.120 --> 49:01.120]  No, no, no, we don't get to do this.
[49:01.120 --> 49:03.120]  This is not a democracy.
[49:03.120 --> 49:06.120]  I just want to run away.
[49:06.120 --> 49:09.120]  Leave me alone.
[49:09.120 --> 49:15.120]  If you get angry enough and you get to work on this, you go through that code twice.
[49:15.120 --> 49:17.120]  Everything will change.
[49:17.120 --> 49:21.120]  Code of criminal procedure and penal code, you go through those twice.
[49:21.120 --> 49:23.120]  Your whole perspective will change.
[49:23.120 --> 49:29.120]  You'll just start marking it off, violated this law, violated this law.
[49:29.120 --> 49:34.120]  And when you start fighting against them, everything changes.
[49:34.120 --> 49:43.120]  You haven't lived until you've dialed 911 and asked a policeman to come out and arrest a policeman.
[49:43.120 --> 49:48.120]  I did that one time years ago, but it didn't go over so well.
[49:48.120 --> 49:50.120]  It was in Reno, Nevada.
[49:50.120 --> 49:57.120]  But anyway, who do you file a criminal complaint with against them?
[49:57.120 --> 50:05.120]  Everything in law directs a criminal complaint to some magistrate.
[50:05.120 --> 50:07.120]  Okay.
[50:07.120 --> 50:12.120]  Now, you can take one, if it's against a public official, you can take it to the prosecuting attorney,
[50:12.120 --> 50:15.120]  but he's going to refuse to act on it.
[50:15.120 --> 50:20.120]  And there's a mindset to do this from.
[50:20.120 --> 50:21.120]  Okay.
[50:21.120 --> 50:24.120]  First off, never give these guys legal advice.
[50:24.120 --> 50:25.120]  Okay.
[50:25.120 --> 50:29.120]  Don't tell them, now I said you're supposed to do this, you're supposed to do that.
[50:29.120 --> 50:32.120]  They know what the law is.
[50:32.120 --> 50:36.120]  Bushwhack is a whole lot more fun.
[50:36.120 --> 50:39.120]  You go in with your little tar baby.
[50:39.120 --> 50:45.120]  You don't ever want to ask them to do something that you actually want them to do.
[50:45.120 --> 50:51.120]  You want them not to do it because you got this big club you're fixing to whack them with when they don't.
[50:51.120 --> 50:56.120]  I go to the prosecuting attorney and I give them this criminal complaint.
[50:56.120 --> 51:00.120]  And he says, well, I examined into your accusation, decided to take no actions.
[51:00.120 --> 51:01.120]  Is that a fact?
[51:01.120 --> 51:03.120]  Check.
[51:03.120 --> 51:07.120]  Well, 2.03 Code of Criminal Procedure says when a prosecuting attorney is made known in any manner
[51:07.120 --> 51:12.120]  that a public official's violated law relating to his office, he shall reduce complaint information submitted to the grand jury.
[51:12.120 --> 51:14.120]  You didn't do that.
[51:14.120 --> 51:17.120]  You failed to perform a duty you were required to perform.
[51:17.120 --> 51:20.120]  And that's a violation of 39.03 penal code.
[51:20.120 --> 51:22.120]  Class A misdemeanor.
[51:22.120 --> 51:25.120]  I take that to some magistrate.
[51:25.120 --> 51:33.120]  And when the magistrate gives me this sage advice, oh, Mr. Kelton, you really need to take that to the police department.
[51:33.120 --> 51:34.120]  I said, okay, I'll do that.
[51:34.120 --> 51:40.120]  So I go to the police department and I file a criminal complaint against the magistrate for official oppression,
[51:40.120 --> 51:44.120]  for failing to perform a duty he is required to perform.
[51:44.120 --> 51:46.120]  You see how this works?
[51:46.120 --> 51:56.120]  About one trip through them that way, their whole perspective will change really, really fast.
[51:56.120 --> 52:02.120]  All of a sudden, they will want to get as far away from you as they can.
[52:02.120 --> 52:07.120]  And that is the only way we're going to be able to fix it.
[52:07.120 --> 52:13.120]  If they're coming after you, this is the only way you get them off of you.
[52:13.120 --> 52:18.120]  And I suggest you are the sovereign.
[52:18.120 --> 52:22.120]  You don't go down to the guy on the bottom.
[52:22.120 --> 52:29.120]  If you're a CEO of a big company and you walk into the mailroom and the guy in the mailroom is goofing off,
[52:29.120 --> 52:32.120]  you don't go chew out the guy in the mailroom.
[52:32.120 --> 52:36.120]  You go to the vice president and say, what the heck is going on down there?
[52:36.120 --> 52:39.120]  Can't you people manage my company?
[52:39.120 --> 52:46.120]  And then the president is going to go to the manager of that department and get on him because I just got chewed out by the CEO.
[52:46.120 --> 52:52.120]  And the time it gets down to this poor guy in the mailroom, he is in a world of hurt.
[52:52.120 --> 52:53.120]  They don't care what he did.
[52:53.120 --> 52:57.120]  All they know is they're all getting in trouble because of him.
[52:57.120 --> 53:09.120]  I have filed criminal charges against the chief justice of the Supreme Court of the state of Texas because he failed to act on my criminal complaints I sent to him.
[53:09.120 --> 53:20.120]  Of all people that should know what his duty is in the Code of Criminal Procedure 2.09, who are magistrates?
[53:20.120 --> 53:28.120]  Very first one, justices of the Supreme Court. Didn't you read the book?
[53:28.120 --> 53:35.120]  You go after the top guy, these policemen down there.
[53:35.120 --> 53:37.120]  You know, I had a policeman come up in my yard.
[53:37.120 --> 53:43.120]  I live next to City Hall and I was doing some welding on a plastic tank.
[53:43.120 --> 53:46.120]  He said I couldn't have that open flame.
[53:46.120 --> 53:57.120]  And I accused him of coming down here to harass me because the district judge sent you down here to harass me, didn't he?
[53:57.120 --> 54:07.120]  Just because I filed one crummy little terroristic threat complaint against him with the attorney general, he sent you down here to harass me, didn't he?
[54:07.120 --> 54:12.120]  This policeman stepped back, held up both hands with his palms out.
[54:12.120 --> 54:18.120]  And no, Mr. Kelton, just one moment, please. He took out his cell phone, dialed something.
[54:18.120 --> 54:24.120]  About 45 seconds later, the chief of police stepped out of City Hall and looked across at us.
[54:24.120 --> 54:28.120]  Randy, what are you doing to my new officer?
[54:28.120 --> 54:32.120]  Oh, Tom, I was just jerking his cane.
[54:32.120 --> 54:41.120]  And this policeman said, oh, God, I saw my whole career pass before my eyes.
[54:41.120 --> 54:44.120]  Understand the power you have.
[54:44.120 --> 54:47.120]  You can go chew out the district judge.
[54:47.120 --> 54:53.120]  And when you go to those higher level judges, they are very, very political.
[54:53.120 --> 54:58.120]  They know full well how dangerous you are.
[54:58.120 --> 55:04.120]  And then once you've hammered a district judge, the policeman say two words to you.
[55:04.120 --> 55:11.120]  You accuse the district judge of sending them after you and you watch them run like rabbits.
[55:11.120 --> 55:12.120]  All right.
[55:12.120 --> 55:13.120]  OK, I really need to go on.
[55:13.120 --> 55:16.120]  My call board is really filling up.
[55:16.120 --> 55:18.120]  Go to Eddie's.
[55:18.120 --> 55:20.120]  Don't use Eddie's lawyer.
[55:20.120 --> 55:22.120]  Go to his seminars.
[55:22.120 --> 55:24.120]  Learn the material.
[55:24.120 --> 55:25.120]  All right.
[55:25.120 --> 55:28.120]  Then you can take these guys on.
[55:28.120 --> 55:29.120]  OK.
[55:29.120 --> 55:31.120]  OK, thank you, Melon.
[55:31.120 --> 55:32.120]  Thank you.
[55:32.120 --> 55:33.120]  OK.
[55:33.120 --> 55:35.120]  Bless you.
[55:35.120 --> 55:39.120]  OK, we are going to Julius in Texas.
[55:39.120 --> 55:40.120]  Hello, Julius.
[55:40.120 --> 55:44.120]  What kind of trouble are you in now?
[55:44.120 --> 55:47.120]  Well, I've not been beaten to a pulp yet.
[55:47.120 --> 55:49.120]  Oh, well, we tried.
[55:49.120 --> 55:52.120]  We just couldn't get them to do it.
[55:52.120 --> 55:55.120]  Julian called in one day from a parking lot.
[55:55.120 --> 56:05.120]  It was in St. Mary's College, St. Edward's College, and the security was harassing him
[56:05.120 --> 56:10.120]  and were giving him directions of what to do, trying to get these guards to beat him
[56:10.120 --> 56:13.120]  into unconsciousness.
[56:13.120 --> 56:16.120]  But he managed to get out of that one.
[56:16.120 --> 56:19.120]  OK, what do you have for us today, Julius?
[56:19.120 --> 56:27.120]  OK, what I've got is I'm going to be working on a response to this impeding traffic appeal
[56:27.120 --> 56:31.120]  case that I'm in, and I spoke to you last week about it.
[56:31.120 --> 56:35.120]  And I'm going to be filing criminal charges against the prosecutor.
[56:35.120 --> 56:37.120]  I have a question.
[56:37.120 --> 56:42.120]  Do you know any case law that I can use in my defense or rebuttal?
[56:42.120 --> 56:51.120]  Because this was a traffic citation situation, but this prosecutor used an A portion of a
[56:51.120 --> 56:58.120]  transportation code when there's both an A portion and a B portion, which comprises all
[56:58.120 --> 57:05.120]  the elements of this statute, which you need to understand the B portion before you understand
[57:05.120 --> 57:07.120]  the whole code.
[57:07.120 --> 57:13.120]  So the prosecutor is trying to fluff one off to the county court of law stating that he
[57:13.120 --> 57:18.120]  only charged me with the A portion of this transportation code.
[57:18.120 --> 57:27.120]  I can't do that because you need to read the A and the B to understand what that statute is.
[57:27.120 --> 57:40.120]  For instance, transportation code 545.363 in the state of Texas leads somewhat to the effect
[57:40.120 --> 57:44.120]  you were moving so slow as to impede the normal flow of traffic.
[57:44.120 --> 57:47.120]  Now, that's in the A portion.
[57:47.120 --> 57:56.120]  The B portion has wording that there was a state highway and or turnpike study done to
[57:56.120 --> 58:01.120]  determine the safety regulations, blah, blah, blah.
[58:01.120 --> 58:07.120]  Now, the prosecutor used only the A portion to charge me and never disclosed the transportation
[58:07.120 --> 58:10.120]  code at all throughout all trial proceedings.
[58:10.120 --> 58:13.120]  I hear the music.
[58:13.120 --> 58:15.120]  Okay, hang on.
[58:15.120 --> 58:17.120]  We'll pick this up.
[58:17.120 --> 58:24.120]  I'm juggling As and Bs, and I still don't understand really where you're going, but I'm
[58:24.120 --> 58:28.120]  sure you'll get to that when we come back on the other side.
[58:28.120 --> 58:32.120]  This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio.
[58:32.120 --> 58:36.120]  I call in number 512-646-1984.
[58:36.120 --> 58:37.120]  Give us a call.
[58:37.120 --> 58:43.120]  We're going into our last hour, and things tend to pick up in the last hour.
[58:43.120 --> 58:45.120]  So call in pretty quickly.
[58:45.120 --> 58:47.120]  We've got Julius and Tommy.
[58:47.120 --> 58:50.120]  We'll be right back.
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[01:04:09.760 --> 01:04:17.400]  Okay. We are back. Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens, The Rule of Law Radio. We're talking to Julius in Texas.
[01:04:17.400 --> 01:04:24.520]  I know where you're going, Julius, but we need to get to it. We're talking about elements here.
[01:04:24.520 --> 01:04:30.720]  It's like causes of action. When you claim a cause of action, you have to claim all the elements.
[01:04:30.720 --> 01:04:36.200]  When you accuse somebody of a criminal act, you have to state all the elements.
[01:04:36.200 --> 01:04:44.600]  If you're accusing someone of going too slow, you have to define what too slow is.
[01:04:44.600 --> 01:04:53.600]  It can't be arbitrary and capricious. Otherwise, reasonable people, if they could disagree on what is too slow,
[01:04:53.600 --> 01:04:58.600]  then the statute is too arbitrary and capricious to meet constitutional muster.
[01:04:58.600 --> 01:05:00.600]  Is that where you're going, Julius?
[01:05:00.600 --> 01:05:08.600]  That's exactly where I'm going. The B portion of that statute clearly defines that it's a highway or a turnpike code, period.
[01:05:08.600 --> 01:05:15.600]  I was in a downtown, slower moving place where everyone is slow moving or stopped.
[01:05:15.600 --> 01:05:19.600]  They're trying to claim that I'm moving so slow as to impede traffic.
[01:05:19.600 --> 01:05:27.600]  Well, that's not possible under transportation code 545.363 because the code is written for a highway.
[01:05:27.600 --> 01:05:37.600]  What you're saying is, according to portion B, that the statute names a highway or a turnpike.
[01:05:37.600 --> 01:05:44.600]  Therefore, what is not included is excluded from the application of the statute.
[01:05:44.600 --> 01:05:54.600]  That's correct. The prosecuting attorney not only did not disclose transportation code 545.363,
[01:05:54.600 --> 01:06:01.600]  he just put in the complaint portions of the A portion, which are deceiving.
[01:06:01.600 --> 01:06:12.600]  They're very deceptive because it doesn't show that, first of all, they claim that the normal conditions of the roads at that time are not slow moving
[01:06:12.600 --> 01:06:21.600]  because the A portion of the statute is making it out to be that I'm moving slow when other traffic is moving fast.
[01:06:21.600 --> 01:06:30.600]  But you can support that with the B portion of the statute, knowing that it's only a turnpike or a highway code.
[01:06:30.600 --> 01:06:40.600]  The jury never had access to that information and convicted me thinking that the law was correct
[01:06:40.600 --> 01:06:50.600]  because both the court, the judge, the prosecutor, they're all together and they're in cahoots.
[01:06:50.600 --> 01:06:54.600]  Did you bargrieve the prosecutor?
[01:06:54.600 --> 01:07:00.600]  I'm on bargrievens.net right now as we speak.
[01:07:00.600 --> 01:07:07.600]  I'm going through the prosecution function and I'm answering the questions.
[01:07:07.600 --> 01:07:11.600]  Duty to respond to misconduct. I love this.
[01:07:11.600 --> 01:07:17.600]  I'm just trancing through it right now and that's why I called you.
[01:07:17.600 --> 01:07:22.600]  I said I just wanted to thank you for finally getting that up.
[01:07:22.600 --> 01:07:29.600]  Good. You will like it. You will find things you can grieve them for that you didn't expect.
[01:07:29.600 --> 01:07:32.600]  Now, there's two sides to that.
[01:07:32.600 --> 01:07:44.600]  The second side I don't quite have up yet and it is the American Bar Association standards for the prosecutorial function.
[01:07:44.600 --> 01:07:46.600]  Right. I saw that flow chart.
[01:07:46.600 --> 01:07:51.600]  You have this kind of flow chart going on that is still a work in progress?
[01:07:51.600 --> 01:07:57.600]  Yes. That one, it's up but it's not as good as I'd like it yet.
[01:07:57.600 --> 01:07:59.600]  I just haven't had time to fix it.
[01:07:59.600 --> 01:08:06.600]  But go through that. You will be surprised at what you can nail a prosecutor for.
[01:08:06.600 --> 01:08:13.600]  I have a book by a guy out of Austin, Charles Herring, on malpractice.
[01:08:13.600 --> 01:08:20.600]  I tell people nobody who's a lawyer read this book before they became a lawyer.
[01:08:20.600 --> 01:08:21.600]  Right.
[01:08:21.600 --> 01:08:25.600]  Because if they had, they would went into another profession.
[01:08:25.600 --> 01:08:28.600]  You can nail them for everything.
[01:08:28.600 --> 01:08:29.600]  Good.
[01:08:29.600 --> 01:08:31.600]  So have fun with that, Julius.
[01:08:31.600 --> 01:08:34.600]  I will, Randy. Thank you.
[01:08:34.600 --> 01:08:39.600]  You are welcome. Okay, we're going to go to Tommy in Texas.
[01:08:39.600 --> 01:08:42.600]  Hello, Tommy. What do you have for us today?
[01:08:42.600 --> 01:08:50.600]  Hey, well, a couple of things. I had a small victory in the family court, not a huge one, but a small one.
[01:08:50.600 --> 01:08:52.600]  I got exactly what I wanted.
[01:08:52.600 --> 01:08:57.600]  Wait a minute. I'm having a little trouble understanding you.
[01:08:57.600 --> 01:09:02.600]  Okay. Well, I'm on my cell phone and I'm traveling from my work to my house.
[01:09:02.600 --> 01:09:06.600]  Oh, okay. Okay. Go ahead.
[01:09:06.600 --> 01:09:15.600]  Well, the lawyer for the opposition was trying to tell me that I must pay my child support
[01:09:15.600 --> 01:09:20.600]  through the child disbursement unit of the state of Texas through the attorney general's office.
[01:09:20.600 --> 01:09:26.600]  And I said, no, I don't. I will not. I never have, and I'm not going to.
[01:09:26.600 --> 01:09:33.600]  And she said, well, by definition, anything that is not paid through the child disbursement unit
[01:09:33.600 --> 01:09:38.600]  will not count as child support and it will only be counted as a gift.
[01:09:38.600 --> 01:09:45.600]  I said, no, because that's not what the order is going to say because I'm going to faff my own language
[01:09:45.600 --> 01:09:47.600]  and the judge will sign it.
[01:09:47.600 --> 01:09:51.600]  And she said, no, the judge will not sign it. I said, well, we will speak.
[01:09:51.600 --> 01:09:59.600]  And so I faffed at the language and it was very difficult at first time to understand the language in the family code.
[01:09:59.600 --> 01:10:06.600]  It takes down a couple different rabbit trails and it's very deceptive.
[01:10:06.600 --> 01:10:11.600]  But, you know, and I was really not understanding.
[01:10:11.600 --> 01:10:15.600]  I just prayed to the Lord, Lord, I'm kind of understanding it.
[01:10:15.600 --> 01:10:17.600]  I'm not sure where I need to go with this.
[01:10:17.600 --> 01:10:19.600]  Can you just show me what I need to see?
[01:10:19.600 --> 01:10:21.600]  And slept on it.
[01:10:21.600 --> 01:10:25.600]  And the next day I started rereading it and everything just fell into place.
[01:10:25.600 --> 01:10:30.600]  I crafted the language, the judge signed it, didn't say anything.
[01:10:30.600 --> 01:10:39.600]  And I'm now paying directly to my ex-wife, the child support, instead of going through the state.
[01:10:39.600 --> 01:10:49.600]  Well, okay, be careful because make sure you can validate every payment.
[01:10:49.600 --> 01:10:51.600]  Keep records.
[01:10:51.600 --> 01:10:57.600]  I did it electronically and with the note that it is, in fact, child support.
[01:10:57.600 --> 01:11:02.600]  And I have a verification from my ex-wife that this is how she wants it.
[01:11:02.600 --> 01:11:05.600]  And I've got email verification on everything.
[01:11:05.600 --> 01:11:08.600]  And that's the way it's been for the last 10 years.
[01:11:08.600 --> 01:11:12.600]  And so it's working out.
[01:11:12.600 --> 01:11:24.600]  In fact, a week after this, I got a letter from the Attorney General's office saying, we are now responsible for your child support.
[01:11:24.600 --> 01:11:27.600]  You need to send a check to our child dispersal unit.
[01:11:27.600 --> 01:11:31.600]  I said, whoa, wait a minute, this is not correct.
[01:11:31.600 --> 01:11:43.600]  Well, I called the district clerk who was processing it and she said, well, we have the child support supervisor right here.
[01:11:43.600 --> 01:11:54.600]  And so they put me on with her and I explained to her, I said, look, the judge's orders specifically state that I will pay directly to my child support.
[01:11:54.600 --> 01:11:57.600]  And she pulled the order out and she says, and can you believe this?
[01:11:57.600 --> 01:12:01.600]  She says, well, Mr. Hargraves, you are correct.
[01:12:01.600 --> 01:12:04.600]  And she says, my name is Sherry.
[01:12:04.600 --> 01:12:09.600]  I am the supervisor and this was my fault.
[01:12:09.600 --> 01:12:13.600]  She says, I apologize for any inconvenience this has caused you.
[01:12:13.600 --> 01:12:23.600]  And I will talk to the child dispersal unit directly, immediately and have them close out your account.
[01:12:23.600 --> 01:12:26.600]  You got lucky.
[01:12:26.600 --> 01:12:31.600]  Generally, they don't care what the law says.
[01:12:31.600 --> 01:12:39.600]  Well, you know, the nothing in the law specifically states that every person shall pay directly through the child dispersal unit.
[01:12:39.600 --> 01:12:49.600]  It kind of leads you that way, but there's nothing in the law that states that specifically unless you're having to go through the Title IV process.
[01:12:49.600 --> 01:12:57.600]  And then and only then will they take it out of your paycheck and go through the child dispersal unit.
[01:12:57.600 --> 01:13:00.600]  That's it.
[01:13:00.600 --> 01:13:02.600]  Well, that's good.
[01:13:02.600 --> 01:13:03.600]  I'm glad you were able to do that.
[01:13:03.600 --> 01:13:10.600]  I'm glad to hear that the attorney general's office didn't just try to bowl over you.
[01:13:10.600 --> 01:13:11.600]  Yeah.
[01:13:11.600 --> 01:13:18.600]  Well, you know, I went into court bowled as a lion because I was in the right and I felt like I had a pretty tight cage.
[01:13:18.600 --> 01:13:19.600]  And I was ready.
[01:13:19.600 --> 01:13:23.600]  I was prepared to answer any question that the judge threw at me.
[01:13:23.600 --> 01:13:26.600]  And so it really worked out well.
[01:13:26.600 --> 01:13:28.600]  What I wanted to ask you about was this.
[01:13:28.600 --> 01:13:35.600]  I guess it's the jurisdictionary, I guess the legal course somewhat out of Florida.
[01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:36.600]  Yes.
[01:13:36.600 --> 01:13:37.600]  Yes.
[01:13:37.600 --> 01:13:47.600]  Dr. Frederick Grace, you can go to rule of law radio or to logosradionetwork.com and you can order it from there.
[01:13:47.600 --> 01:13:50.600]  It's only a couple hundred bucks.
[01:13:50.600 --> 01:13:55.600]  Absolutely the best course in law you'll ever get.
[01:13:55.600 --> 01:13:59.600]  Every lawyer when he gets out of law school should get Dr.
[01:13:59.600 --> 01:14:07.600]  Grace's work and go through it because it will teach you all of the stuff they don't teach in law school.
[01:14:07.600 --> 01:14:12.600]  The practical side of this is what the motion is.
[01:14:12.600 --> 01:14:13.600]  This is when you file the motion.
[01:14:13.600 --> 01:14:15.600]  This is how you file the motion.
[01:14:15.600 --> 01:14:19.600]  This is how you think about the courts.
[01:14:19.600 --> 01:14:24.600]  Twile court is only for setting the record for appeal.
[01:14:24.600 --> 01:14:36.600]  If you get that point, then when the judge rules against you, you don't feel frustrated and defeated and betrayed and lose your perspective.
[01:14:36.600 --> 01:14:40.600]  You say, eh, got that one marked for appeal.
[01:14:40.600 --> 01:14:49.600]  I tell people, expect the judge to rule against you out of hand at every turn.
[01:14:49.600 --> 01:14:50.600]  Okay.
[01:14:50.600 --> 01:14:52.600]  Maybe he won't.
[01:14:52.600 --> 01:14:55.600]  Maybe the judge will actually rule in your favor.
[01:14:55.600 --> 01:14:58.600]  If he does, that's a freebie.
[01:14:58.600 --> 01:15:00.600]  That's a bonus.
[01:15:00.600 --> 01:15:07.600]  But lawyers on both sides expect the judge to rule against them out of hand at every turn.
[01:15:07.600 --> 01:15:11.600]  So they plan for the judge ruling against them.
[01:15:11.600 --> 01:15:13.600]  If the judge doesn't, okay, good.
[01:15:13.600 --> 01:15:16.600]  They don't have to follow through with the plan.
[01:15:16.600 --> 01:15:19.600]  But if he does, they don't get all excited and upset.
[01:15:19.600 --> 01:15:21.600]  They're ready for that.
[01:15:21.600 --> 01:15:32.600]  And jurisdictionary will help you tremendously to be ready for what they try to throw at you.
[01:15:32.600 --> 01:15:35.600]  Randy, I thank you for taking my call.
[01:15:35.600 --> 01:15:37.600]  I'll let you get to the next caller.
[01:15:37.600 --> 01:15:44.600]  And I just appreciate everything that you guys have done for us and everyone else out there.
[01:15:44.600 --> 01:15:48.600]  It's really been a boon for me in the case I've been going through.
[01:15:48.600 --> 01:15:50.600]  So I thank you.
[01:15:50.600 --> 01:15:51.600]  You are most welcome.
[01:15:51.600 --> 01:15:55.600]  And I do appreciate you folks listening.
[01:15:55.600 --> 01:16:00.600]  And we were talking earlier about how we get such good questions.
[01:16:00.600 --> 01:16:09.600]  You know, and it's really good to hear someone who goes in pro se, takes them on, does his homework.
[01:16:09.600 --> 01:16:15.600]  And that's the one thing you said as you went in there, loaded for bear.
[01:16:15.600 --> 01:16:18.600]  There's nothing makes up for homework.
[01:16:18.600 --> 01:16:19.600]  So thank you, Tommy.
[01:16:19.600 --> 01:16:21.600]  I appreciate you.
[01:16:21.600 --> 01:16:23.600]  Okay, we are about to go to break.
[01:16:23.600 --> 01:16:25.600]  Laurie, I see you there.
[01:16:25.600 --> 01:16:28.600]  We will pick you up when we come back on the other side.
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[01:19:30.600 --> 01:19:40.600]  If I can't get everything I want,
[01:19:40.600 --> 01:19:46.600]  I need to get a range, yeah.
[01:19:46.600 --> 01:19:51.600]  If I can't get everything I need,
[01:19:51.600 --> 01:19:57.600]  I need to get a range, yeah.
[01:19:57.600 --> 01:20:00.600]  Okay, we are back.
[01:20:00.600 --> 01:20:03.600]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Joe Esquivel.
[01:20:03.600 --> 01:20:07.600]  We have our radio, and we're going to Lori in Oregon.
[01:20:07.600 --> 01:20:10.600]  Hello, Ms. Lori.
[01:20:10.600 --> 01:20:14.600]  Hi.
[01:20:14.600 --> 01:20:15.600]  Wow, where to start?
[01:20:15.600 --> 01:20:17.600]  I got hit with the foreclosures.
[01:20:17.600 --> 01:20:19.600]  Some ends here, wow, bad.
[01:20:19.600 --> 01:20:28.600]  I managed to get my motion in per se.
[01:20:28.600 --> 01:20:31.600]  I'll be the first to admit that there were some things missing in it,
[01:20:31.600 --> 01:20:38.600]  but the judge granted it for an extension of time.
[01:20:38.600 --> 01:20:46.600]  So now I've been going through all of my escrow stuff,
[01:20:46.600 --> 01:20:55.600]  and I just find it really strange that it's an 80-20 long thing.
[01:20:55.600 --> 01:20:59.600]  Okay, okay, hold on, stop, back up.
[01:20:59.600 --> 01:21:06.600]  Okay, Oregon is a judicial state where they have to sue in the court.
[01:21:06.600 --> 01:21:09.600]  Is that correct?
[01:21:09.600 --> 01:21:12.600]  Sorry, I missed that.
[01:21:12.600 --> 01:21:15.600]  Oregon is a judicial state, right?
[01:21:15.600 --> 01:21:20.600]  They have to sue to foreclose.
[01:21:20.600 --> 01:21:22.600]  It's not a deed of trust state.
[01:21:22.600 --> 01:21:26.600]  I'm not quite as up on that as I planned on being.
[01:21:26.600 --> 01:21:33.600]  Okay, if you're not up on that part, you really need to get to work
[01:21:33.600 --> 01:21:37.600]  if you're going to defend yourself.
[01:21:37.600 --> 01:21:44.600]  First thing you need to do is go down to the county registrar's office
[01:21:44.600 --> 01:21:49.600]  and pull all of the documents that have been filed in the record
[01:21:49.600 --> 01:21:54.600]  from the date that you received a warranty deed.
[01:21:54.600 --> 01:22:00.600]  That'll be the closing date for the purchase of the property.
[01:22:00.600 --> 01:22:04.600]  Pull all those documents, and once you have all those documents,
[01:22:04.600 --> 01:22:06.600]  call us back and we'll talk about those.
[01:22:06.600 --> 01:22:10.600]  What is the current condition of your mortgage?
[01:22:10.600 --> 01:22:16.600]  Okay, how far behind are you?
[01:22:16.600 --> 01:22:18.600]  A couple of years.
[01:22:18.600 --> 01:22:26.600]  A couple of years, so have they taken any action prior to this?
[01:22:26.600 --> 01:22:36.600]  There was one, but no action came from it.
[01:22:36.600 --> 01:22:40.600]  Okay, I'm looking for res judicata.
[01:22:40.600 --> 01:22:47.600]  I'm looking for issues that may already be adjudicated that you can't bring.
[01:22:47.600 --> 01:22:52.600]  If no action is taken, then you have all your options open.
[01:22:52.600 --> 01:23:03.600]  Is the entity that is doing the foreclosure the same entity who gave you the loan?
[01:23:03.600 --> 01:23:05.600]  No.
[01:23:05.600 --> 01:23:08.600]  That's good.
[01:23:08.600 --> 01:23:13.600]  Do you have your deed of trust?
[01:23:13.600 --> 01:23:17.600]  You need to look and see if MERS is included in the deed of trust.
[01:23:17.600 --> 01:23:22.600]  Mortgage Electronic Registration Systems.
[01:23:22.600 --> 01:23:23.600]  Randy?
[01:23:23.600 --> 01:23:24.600]  Yes.
[01:23:24.600 --> 01:23:32.600]  RealtyTrack.com is showing Oregon as being either or judicial and or non-judicial.
[01:23:32.600 --> 01:23:37.600]  Okay, that's what I thought I remembered something on about Oregon.
[01:23:37.600 --> 01:23:40.600]  Oregon and Massachusetts are kind of like that.
[01:23:40.600 --> 01:23:45.600]  But it appears as though here they're doing a judicial foreclosure.
[01:23:45.600 --> 01:23:49.600]  Have they filed a complaint?
[01:23:49.600 --> 01:23:54.600]  Because if they filed a complaint, then we have exhibits entered into court,
[01:23:54.600 --> 01:24:04.600]  and she needs to go down to the court and pull all the courthouse records and pull those exhibits because that's what you would analyze,
[01:24:04.600 --> 01:24:12.600]  and those are the exhibits that you're going to attack as well as the documents that have been entered into public record.
[01:24:12.600 --> 01:24:22.600]  So especially if they're going to have a copy of the debt instrument, then that debt instrument is going to be used as evidence.
[01:24:22.600 --> 01:24:30.600]  So even if it's a copy, once it's entered into the court record, now you have something to attack.
[01:24:30.600 --> 01:24:32.600]  Are there any incomplete stampings?
[01:24:32.600 --> 01:24:35.600]  Are there any complete endorsements?
[01:24:35.600 --> 01:24:38.600]  Are they claiming that it's bear paper?
[01:24:38.600 --> 01:24:42.600]  Those are the questions that can be asked after the documents have been gathered.
[01:24:42.600 --> 01:24:47.600]  That's where the fun is for me.
[01:24:47.600 --> 01:24:59.600]  I guess the whole point of our show is not to say you need to do this one thing or that one thing.
[01:24:59.600 --> 01:25:05.600]  The whole point of the show is there's a whole lot of stuff you can do,
[01:25:05.600 --> 01:25:13.600]  and we try to pick of all of the options, the thing that will give you the best remedy,
[01:25:13.600 --> 01:25:20.600]  you have a lot of options in front of you, and it's not as complex as it appears.
[01:25:20.600 --> 01:25:25.600]  Well, part of it is pretty complex, but the basic part is not.
[01:25:25.600 --> 01:25:28.600]  Who did you give the loan to?
[01:25:28.600 --> 01:25:36.600]  If a different person is doing the foreclosure than the one they give the loan to, how did they get to that person?
[01:25:36.600 --> 01:25:38.600]  Who is that guy?
[01:25:38.600 --> 01:25:51.600]  And generally what we do to help somebody stop the bank is we file a suit and ask one question.
[01:25:51.600 --> 01:25:55.600]  Who are you?
[01:25:55.600 --> 01:26:00.600]  You claim to have authority to prosecute this foreclosure.
[01:26:00.600 --> 01:26:03.600]  Well, just how did you get that?
[01:26:03.600 --> 01:26:04.600]  I don't know you.
[01:26:04.600 --> 01:26:06.600]  I never entered into a contract with you.
[01:26:06.600 --> 01:26:08.600]  You never entered into a contract.
[01:26:08.600 --> 01:26:12.600]  We do an alleged principle, so who are you?
[01:26:12.600 --> 01:26:22.600]  And this goes to the Fair Debt Collections Practices Act, 15 U.S. Code 1692-G.
[01:26:22.600 --> 01:26:32.600]  When you send a, when you dispute the debt, now you can do it with a debt validation letter,
[01:26:32.600 --> 01:26:37.600]  but if we file a suit against them, then we also dispute the debt, saying who are you?
[01:26:37.600 --> 01:26:39.600]  We don't know you.
[01:26:39.600 --> 01:26:42.600]  We don't accept that you have authority to prosecute this debt.
[01:26:42.600 --> 01:26:48.600]  Now they are put on notice that they have to prove up their position.
[01:26:48.600 --> 01:26:49.600]  Here's the deal.
[01:26:49.600 --> 01:26:56.600]  Like we were saying a little earlier, you can expect the courts to rule against you out of hand at every turn.
[01:26:56.600 --> 01:26:58.600]  Absolutely.
[01:26:58.600 --> 01:27:03.600]  So you file this debt validation, you say, you know, prove up who you are.
[01:27:03.600 --> 01:27:09.600]  Well, they're going to file a Rule 12 motion to dismiss for failed state of claim, whichever it can be at,
[01:27:09.600 --> 01:27:18.600]  and you're going to file an opposition to the motion to dismiss, and a judge is going to dismiss,
[01:27:18.600 --> 01:27:24.600]  and you're going to file a motion for reconsideration, and the judge is going to deny it,
[01:27:24.600 --> 01:27:32.600]  and you're going to file a notice of intent to appeal, and then you file an appeal.
[01:27:32.600 --> 01:27:39.600]  And we have had a guy here in Austin, went through the process, filed the appeal.
[01:27:39.600 --> 01:27:47.600]  It took the appeals court a year to get to his appeal.
[01:27:47.600 --> 01:27:48.600]  They threw it out.
[01:27:48.600 --> 01:27:50.600]  They dropped the whole thing.
[01:27:50.600 --> 01:27:54.600]  So now we come back with another suit.
[01:27:54.600 --> 01:27:58.600]  Keep these guys in court till they get old.
[01:27:58.600 --> 01:28:06.600]  We stopped a, he's already been through the eviction process, eviction hearing, and they've got a writ of possession,
[01:28:06.600 --> 01:28:09.600]  but we still got them stopped.
[01:28:09.600 --> 01:28:13.600]  There are a lot of things you can do, but you have to do a lot of homework.
[01:28:13.600 --> 01:28:19.600]  If you're going to save your property, or even if you're just going to get to be able to stay in it another four or five years,
[01:28:19.600 --> 01:28:22.600]  I can do a lot of homework to do this.
[01:28:22.600 --> 01:28:26.600]  Yeah, and, you know, you figure, you know, what's the mortgage payment?
[01:28:26.600 --> 01:28:31.600]  You got that much money a month to pay you to do this research.
[01:28:31.600 --> 01:28:39.600]  And the best benefit from all of this is you're learning how to fight these guys.
[01:28:39.600 --> 01:28:42.600]  You learn how to take the system on.
[01:28:42.600 --> 01:28:49.600]  That will give you a sense of freedom that you'd never had before.
[01:28:49.600 --> 01:28:50.600]  So.
[01:28:50.600 --> 01:28:53.600]  And that would be just entirely wonderful.
[01:28:53.600 --> 01:28:54.600]  Okay.
[01:28:54.600 --> 01:28:56.600]  We do a call.
[01:28:56.600 --> 01:29:00.600]  We only want to do the dictionary.
[01:29:00.600 --> 01:29:04.600]  Get jurisdictionary first.
[01:29:04.600 --> 01:29:10.600]  Go to either ruleoflawradio.com or logosradionetwork.com.
[01:29:10.600 --> 01:29:16.600]  And look for the banner for jurisdictionary.
[01:29:16.600 --> 01:29:22.600]  That is the most basic primer on law you'll ever come across.
[01:29:22.600 --> 01:29:26.600]  It's somewhat large, but it goes through all of the different motions.
[01:29:26.600 --> 01:29:29.600]  It goes through all of the basics.
[01:29:29.600 --> 01:29:34.600]  And once you have the basics down, you're really in good shape.
[01:29:34.600 --> 01:29:37.600]  From the basics, we'll go to the specific issues.
[01:29:37.600 --> 01:29:39.600]  We'll show you how to address this thing.
[01:29:39.600 --> 01:29:43.600]  This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio.
[01:29:43.600 --> 01:29:47.600]  Our call-in number, 512-646-1984.
[01:29:47.600 --> 01:29:48.600]  We're going to break.
[01:29:48.600 --> 01:29:49.600]  Hang on, Lori.
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[01:33:11.600 --> 01:33:40.600]  OK, we are back.
[01:33:40.600 --> 01:33:44.600]  Randy Kelton, Joe Esquivel, and Deborah Stevens,
[01:33:44.600 --> 01:33:48.600]  and we are talking to Lori in Oregon.
[01:33:48.600 --> 01:33:54.600]  Lori, when you first started, it was clear that this is new information for you,
[01:33:54.600 --> 01:34:00.600]  so let me kind of walk through the basics.
[01:34:00.600 --> 01:34:05.600]  When you look at foreclosure, you see all this different stuff
[01:34:05.600 --> 01:34:07.600]  that you have to try to figure out.
[01:34:07.600 --> 01:34:10.600]  It's kind of like riding a bicycle.
[01:34:10.600 --> 01:34:14.600]  First time you get on a bicycle, you've got all this stuff you have to think about,
[01:34:14.600 --> 01:34:22.600]  and the biggest problem is you don't know what you don't need to pay attention to.
[01:34:22.600 --> 01:34:26.600]  For instance, you said you were going through the escrow.
[01:34:26.600 --> 01:34:31.600]  I've looked at escrow, but in dealing with people's foreclosure issues,
[01:34:31.600 --> 01:34:34.600]  I've never had to go there yet.
[01:34:34.600 --> 01:34:39.600]  The place to start is with what is in the record.
[01:34:39.600 --> 01:34:44.600]  You want to look in the record, and the first thing you want to do
[01:34:44.600 --> 01:34:52.600]  is pull every document that's been filed, and this is how you search the record.
[01:34:52.600 --> 01:34:59.600]  All of the clerks pretty much around the country now have gone to electronic filing.
[01:34:59.600 --> 01:35:04.600]  So, you know, I think when I go to the clerks, I tell them, you know,
[01:35:04.600 --> 01:35:09.600]  I'm an old guy and I'm computer intolerant,
[01:35:09.600 --> 01:35:13.600]  so I don't know how to do all of this stuff.
[01:35:13.600 --> 01:35:19.600]  Will you want to search for me on this property and give me a list of everything you find?
[01:35:19.600 --> 01:35:30.600]  The reason I do that is sometimes the other guys file documents in the wrong place.
[01:35:30.600 --> 01:35:33.600]  Sometimes I think they do that on purpose,
[01:35:33.600 --> 01:35:41.600]  but I have a right to trust what I see in the record,
[01:35:41.600 --> 01:35:51.600]  and I don't have to be computer literate in order to exercise my rights to a public record.
[01:35:51.600 --> 01:35:55.600]  So, since the clerk decided to put all this in computers,
[01:35:55.600 --> 01:36:00.600]  they can't expect me to go out and take a computer course just so I can exercise my right.
[01:36:00.600 --> 01:36:07.600]  So I ask the clerk to run a search on my property and give me a list of everything you find.
[01:36:07.600 --> 01:36:13.600]  If somebody has filed something and they haven't filed it correctly,
[01:36:13.600 --> 01:36:21.600]  you may know that it's filed in there, but you don't want to take responsibility for knowing.
[01:36:21.600 --> 01:36:24.600]  So you get the clerk to tell you what's there,
[01:36:24.600 --> 01:36:29.600]  and if you don't see something that needs to be there, they're a problem.
[01:36:29.600 --> 01:36:33.600]  I have a friend here that I went to check the records. There's no deed of trust.
[01:36:33.600 --> 01:36:37.600]  So I sold him a business that I had already closed down
[01:36:37.600 --> 01:36:42.600]  and took a lien against the property in excess of the amount of the loan that was against it,
[01:36:42.600 --> 01:36:44.600]  filed it in the record.
[01:36:44.600 --> 01:36:48.600]  Now this chase is going to come back and try to sue for a foreclosure,
[01:36:48.600 --> 01:36:51.600]  and I'm going to say, hold on, guys.
[01:36:51.600 --> 01:36:56.600]  This guy owned the property before he was married, so it's not community property.
[01:36:56.600 --> 01:37:00.600]  I checked the record. I found no deed of trust.
[01:37:00.600 --> 01:37:03.600]  I took a claim against the property.
[01:37:03.600 --> 01:37:08.600]  Well, we had this loan against the property, and we filed it in the record.
[01:37:08.600 --> 01:37:12.600]  It turns out they filed it in his wife's name.
[01:37:12.600 --> 01:37:16.600]  And I tell them, your problem, not my problem.
[01:37:16.600 --> 01:37:21.600]  My problem is I looked in the record and I didn't find your claim.
[01:37:21.600 --> 01:37:24.600]  So I get to trust what I see there.
[01:37:24.600 --> 01:37:29.600]  If the clerk filed it wrong, that's between you and the clerk.
[01:37:29.600 --> 01:37:34.600]  So get a listing of everything that's been filed, and then from every document,
[01:37:34.600 --> 01:37:39.600]  anybody who signed for a company,
[01:37:39.600 --> 01:37:44.600]  like if there's an assignment of deed of trust or assignment of mortgage,
[01:37:44.600 --> 01:37:49.600]  and it's got this guy's signature on it and he signed it for MERS,
[01:37:49.600 --> 01:37:54.600]  send a letter to MERS and tell them you got this document, this guy's signature on it.
[01:37:54.600 --> 01:38:00.600]  But you looked in the record and you didn't find evidence of power of attorney for this guy.
[01:38:00.600 --> 01:38:02.600]  Now, I don't know who he is.
[01:38:02.600 --> 01:38:08.600]  Will you provide me evidence of power of attorney for this person that authorizes him to sign?
[01:38:08.600 --> 01:38:12.600]  You can go to the court and say, your honor, this guy's a robot signer.
[01:38:12.600 --> 01:38:16.600]  His name's bled all over the internet. And the court's going to say, so what?
[01:38:16.600 --> 01:38:21.600]  That doesn't mean he doesn't have authority to sign in this case.
[01:38:21.600 --> 01:38:25.600]  So you tell the judge he's a robot signer and we found his name all over the internet.
[01:38:25.600 --> 01:38:32.600]  So we sent a letter to the company asking for evidence of power of attorney and they did not respond.
[01:38:32.600 --> 01:38:38.600]  Therefore, we have reason to believe that he's a robot signer and this document's invalid.
[01:38:38.600 --> 01:38:43.600]  Send a letter, and I'm going kind of quickly here because we're getting toward the end of the show,
[01:38:43.600 --> 01:38:48.600]  send a letter to every notary that notarized the document
[01:38:48.600 --> 01:38:53.600]  and send them for evidence of the authentication.
[01:38:53.600 --> 01:38:56.600]  Most of those won't respond.
[01:38:56.600 --> 01:39:00.600]  You start out with a set of claims you can make against them,
[01:39:00.600 --> 01:39:07.600]  and then you need to listen some more and we'll kind of give you an idea of how to evaluate those documents,
[01:39:07.600 --> 01:39:13.600]  what needs to be in those documents. That is absolutely the first place.
[01:39:13.600 --> 01:39:20.600]  Then once we get through the issue of who has authority to do what,
[01:39:20.600 --> 01:39:27.600]  or who has apparent authority based on the documents you see there,
[01:39:27.600 --> 01:39:38.600]  then we go to the shenanigans that the banks pull that will show that what they put in the record was fraudulent.
[01:39:38.600 --> 01:39:45.600]  Joe, will you go to that, the securities side?
[01:39:45.600 --> 01:39:48.600]  Okay.
[01:39:48.600 --> 01:39:53.600]  You've got a number of ways that you can attack it. You can attack the document itself.
[01:39:53.600 --> 01:40:01.600]  You can attack, again, you've got numerous areas that you can get into.
[01:40:01.600 --> 01:40:09.600]  We do mortgage fraud investigations every day, and we go into the parties that signed it,
[01:40:09.600 --> 01:40:16.600]  the places of employment that they claim to be employed by, the titles that they claim.
[01:40:16.600 --> 01:40:22.600]  You've got parties that work for half a dozen companies,
[01:40:22.600 --> 01:40:33.600]  entitle-wise, but while in effect many of them are employed by law firms, they're employed by lender processing services,
[01:40:33.600 --> 01:40:38.600]  and that's just one of the many areas that we can get into.
[01:40:38.600 --> 01:40:48.600]  One of the areas that we look at is, as you said earlier, look at the documents.
[01:40:48.600 --> 01:40:56.600]  What is it that the document is saying, Randy? That's what I want to find out.
[01:40:56.600 --> 01:41:01.600]  What is the document purporting to be?
[01:41:01.600 --> 01:41:06.600]  Many times it's saying that it's doing one thing on the face of it,
[01:41:06.600 --> 01:41:13.600]  but within the verbiage contained in the document, it's saying something else.
[01:41:13.600 --> 01:41:19.600]  You need to look in the body of the document. Is this a fraudulent document?
[01:41:19.600 --> 01:41:28.600]  Are the parties that are claiming to do what they say, are they really employed by these companies?
[01:41:28.600 --> 01:41:39.600]  Yes, and a lot of times they sell a portion of the note, and once they've sold a portion of the note, they don't tell you that.
[01:41:39.600 --> 01:41:47.600]  So if you look at your documents, you don't know that they don't really have control of the property
[01:41:47.600 --> 01:41:52.600]  the way they're claiming to have control when they file the documents.
[01:41:52.600 --> 01:42:00.600]  They're claiming to assign the mortgage from the original lender to some other company.
[01:42:00.600 --> 01:42:07.600]  Well, maybe they have power to do that, maybe they don't, and this is one of the things that Joe will tell you.
[01:42:07.600 --> 01:42:13.600]  That's what his evaluation is for, is to go into the securities records
[01:42:13.600 --> 01:42:17.600]  and find where they've sold the stuff they hadn't told you.
[01:42:17.600 --> 01:42:25.600]  One of the other things is we look for, read your mortgage document.
[01:42:25.600 --> 01:42:33.600]  Just read that, and there's a section in there that says that the lender, you and the lender both,
[01:42:33.600 --> 01:42:37.600]  it's a severability clause, have to abide by all law.
[01:42:37.600 --> 01:42:44.600]  Covered in 16, if you're in a Freddie, Fannie, multi-state uniform document.
[01:42:44.600 --> 01:42:54.600]  And the one in front of that, 15, 15 requires that they give you all notices by certified mail.
[01:42:54.600 --> 01:43:02.600]  If they don't give you a notice, they have defaulted on the document and therefore can't enforce it.
[01:43:02.600 --> 01:43:06.600]  If they violated a law, they defaulted on the document.
[01:43:06.600 --> 01:43:13.600]  There are guys out there making arguments of bifurcation and securitization.
[01:43:13.600 --> 01:43:18.600]  Well, yeah, you can make those arguments, but the judge is going to say, okay, so they bifurcated it.
[01:43:18.600 --> 01:43:20.600]  How did it hurt you?
[01:43:20.600 --> 01:43:24.600]  Well, Covenant 20.
[01:43:24.600 --> 01:43:29.600]  Covenant 20, we put that in there so we wouldn't have to come in here and explain how it hurt us.
[01:43:29.600 --> 01:43:36.600]  We said you can sell a portion of the note or the entire note together with this security instrument.
[01:43:36.600 --> 01:43:38.600]  They breached the contract.
[01:43:38.600 --> 01:43:40.600]  That's all the claim you have to make.
[01:43:40.600 --> 01:43:45.600]  These are a lot easier claims to make than some of the more complex ones.
[01:43:45.600 --> 01:43:48.600]  Okay, we're going into our last segment.
[01:43:48.600 --> 01:43:52.600]  So, Lori, call us back next Thursday.
[01:43:52.600 --> 01:43:55.600]  We'll try to give you some more information.
[01:43:55.600 --> 01:43:59.600]  This is Randy Kelton, Denver Stevens, Joe Esquivel, we'll be right back.
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[01:46:21.600 --> 01:46:38.600]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio, and we're going to go to Terrence in Ohio.
[01:46:38.600 --> 01:46:41.600]  Hello Terrence, what do you have for us today?
[01:46:41.600 --> 01:46:44.600]  Can you hear me, Randy?
[01:46:44.600 --> 01:46:46.600]  Yes, I can.
[01:46:46.600 --> 01:46:54.600]  Okay, everything, this mortgage stuff seems so confusing when it should be really very simple.
[01:46:54.600 --> 01:47:00.600]  The seller meets buyer and is united with the bank through a broker.
[01:47:00.600 --> 01:47:12.600]  So the bank agrees to give the seller some money, the buyer gets the title to the land, and the bank puts a lien on that title.
[01:47:12.600 --> 01:47:16.600]  Okay, so all is happy and everybody's happy.
[01:47:16.600 --> 01:47:29.600]  Now when this bank is to sell his interest or whatever, sell his lien, shouldn't he have to remove his lien and whoever he sells it to puts on a new lien?
[01:47:29.600 --> 01:47:36.600]  And the buyer is informed of all this and everything is all peaceful and happy.
[01:47:36.600 --> 01:47:47.600]  My question is, is the bank selling this mortgage, say it's a $100,000 mortgage, and if it's played out, it costs the buyer $200,000?
[01:47:47.600 --> 01:47:55.600]  Okay, you're talking about, for the most part, you're talking about the way things used to be.
[01:47:55.600 --> 01:48:02.600]  Before the repeal of the Glass-Steel Act and the repeal of the Prohibition Against Derivatives,
[01:48:02.600 --> 01:48:13.600]  these tradings used to be that a bank would give out a mortgage and hold that mortgage and collect it over the life of the note.
[01:48:13.600 --> 01:48:18.600]  Well, sometimes if the bank's going out of business or if they're changing their type of business,
[01:48:18.600 --> 01:48:22.600]  they might want to take their mortgage business and sell it to somebody else.
[01:48:22.600 --> 01:48:30.600]  And they would sell the whole thing to somebody else and they would put in a release of lien because they don't have a claim anymore.
[01:48:30.600 --> 01:48:37.600]  The person who's transferred to would put their claim in the record and we'd know who the holder was.
[01:48:37.600 --> 01:48:48.600]  Well, this whole scheme of securitizing residential mortgages, it looked like a perfect match.
[01:48:48.600 --> 01:48:59.600]  You have this long-term obligation and then you've got these retirement funds and hedge funds that are looking for a long-term investment.
[01:48:59.600 --> 01:49:01.600]  Perfect match. Put them together.
[01:49:01.600 --> 01:49:13.600]  Problem, real property has reporting requirements and restrictions that other types of securities investments did not have.
[01:49:13.600 --> 01:49:26.600]  And the banks tried to put together this cherry-rigged method so that they could use the residential mortgages
[01:49:26.600 --> 01:49:31.600]  as a way to make a whole bunch of money on the securities market.
[01:49:31.600 --> 01:49:33.600]  And in short, they screwed it up.
[01:49:33.600 --> 01:49:48.600]  Now, this purported transfer or assignment is not what it used to be because the bank doesn't hold the entire note.
[01:49:48.600 --> 01:49:51.600]  Joe, you want to explain that?
[01:49:51.600 --> 01:49:53.600]  Well, I like what you're saying.
[01:49:53.600 --> 01:50:01.600]  Okay, you're right. Securitization, when done properly, is good.
[01:50:01.600 --> 01:50:11.600]  Securitization has been around since the 70s when the Salomon Brothers, which was an investment bank, made it popular.
[01:50:11.600 --> 01:50:17.600]  And from the 70s to about 1998, they were securitizing.
[01:50:17.600 --> 01:50:25.600]  Randy, they were going from party A to party B, party B to party C, party C to party D.
[01:50:25.600 --> 01:50:35.600]  And with every sale of the tangible promissory note, there was a recording of an assignment of interest in public record.
[01:50:35.600 --> 01:50:38.600]  There was the sale of the payment and tangible obligation.
[01:50:38.600 --> 01:50:51.600]  So the entire mortgage loan instrument was sold as a whole, was recorded, was resold, was reassigned, entered in public record,
[01:50:51.600 --> 01:50:56.600]  and it took about an average of about 120 days.
[01:50:56.600 --> 01:51:07.600]  And this was done. So there were still sponsors, sellers, depositors, trustees, except you were right, greed got in the way.
[01:51:07.600 --> 01:51:10.600]  And when greed got in the way, you look at the difference.
[01:51:10.600 --> 01:51:22.600]  And when you're talking billions of dollars, billions, and, you know, we're in a RMBS market that has trillions.
[01:51:22.600 --> 01:51:38.600]  So if you just take a small portion of billions out and look at the interest that you could make in a period of, say, 120 days versus, say, 20 days,
[01:51:38.600 --> 01:51:45.600]  and you add that up month after month after month, year after year.
[01:51:45.600 --> 01:51:52.600]  And many of these banks, you know, they have anywhere from, you know, 50 trusts, 200 trusts.
[01:51:52.600 --> 01:51:56.600]  So the money was just phenomenal.
[01:51:56.600 --> 01:52:08.600]  So you're right. With the inception of MERS and the first properties went into MERS in late 1997, and all MERS is is a registry.
[01:52:08.600 --> 01:52:16.600]  You know, we've got our assignment statutes go back to 1636 prior to the American Revolution.
[01:52:16.600 --> 01:52:24.600]  But recording versus registering are two different things. And you hit it right on the spot.
[01:52:24.600 --> 01:52:34.600]  Our land record system's integrity is at stake. It's been lost.
[01:52:34.600 --> 01:52:44.600]  And the public land recordation system needs to be restored to the integrity that it once had.
[01:52:44.600 --> 01:53:05.600]  And that's the problem, because about 80 percent of the properties that are out there are in this registration system called MERS, in which MERS purports to own the mortgages.
[01:53:05.600 --> 01:53:16.600]  They don't own Jack, all right, because MERS is about records, electronic records.
[01:53:16.600 --> 01:53:24.600]  And electronic records pertain to personal property, not real property.
[01:53:24.600 --> 01:53:37.600]  There is no statutory requirements for electronic notes, because electronic notes, electronic mortgages are not negotiable instruments.
[01:53:37.600 --> 01:53:43.600]  It's a record. What is a record? A record is a copy.
[01:53:43.600 --> 01:53:50.600]  So there is a lot of misrepresentation, Randy, and you were so right.
[01:53:50.600 --> 01:53:57.600]  Who are the parties that were involved? When you were telling the caller earlier, look at your documents.
[01:53:57.600 --> 01:54:06.600]  Who are the names on there? I mean, for all purposes, it could be Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck.
[01:54:06.600 --> 01:54:17.600]  The parties in public record, the parties on your note, they change them around, they sell them, they split them up.
[01:54:17.600 --> 01:54:27.600]  So anything after 1998 is very questionable. I would question anything after 1998.
[01:54:27.600 --> 01:54:29.600]  Alarm. Go on.
[01:54:29.600 --> 01:54:44.600]  Consider if you are a foreign investor, and one of the primary things that made the United States the most powerful economic engine on the planet is everybody all over the world invested in the United States.
[01:54:44.600 --> 01:54:51.600]  And by investing in the United States, they didn't worry about the government coming in and confiscating everything.
[01:54:51.600 --> 01:55:02.600]  They could buy property here. They could buy property with assurance that there are no unregistered claims against that property,
[01:55:02.600 --> 01:55:11.600]  so that tomorrow or next week somebody is going to come along and say, hey, I got a claim against this, try to take it away from us, because we had a good recording system.
[01:55:11.600 --> 01:55:17.600]  You could trust what you saw in the record. That has been utterly destroyed.
[01:55:17.600 --> 01:55:29.600]  Who in their white mind would invest in property in this country if they can't be sure that someone else won't come along and try to take it away from them?
[01:55:29.600 --> 01:55:30.600]  You're right.
[01:55:30.600 --> 01:55:32.600]  We have to fix that.
[01:55:32.600 --> 01:55:46.600]  And that's one of the issues that I raise. I mean, one, I'm a licensed private investigator. So when I look at something, if I see that there's a wrong, I'm under an obligation to report it.
[01:55:46.600 --> 01:55:51.600]  I can't turn my head away and pretend I didn't see it.
[01:55:51.600 --> 01:56:00.600]  I have an obligation to my clients to give them all of the facts.
[01:56:00.600 --> 01:56:13.600]  So we take all the facts, we put them all together, and, you know, we go forth in the complaints, you know, with specificity and particularity.
[01:56:13.600 --> 01:56:22.600]  And this way a property determination can be made. Is this party coming forth with this action, the proper party? No.
[01:56:22.600 --> 01:56:25.600]  What are we doing here then?
[01:56:25.600 --> 01:56:35.600]  Because it's not a question of do I owe money? Yes, I owe an obligation. We'll deal with that at a later time.
[01:56:35.600 --> 01:56:44.600]  Right now the issue is in the foreclosure action, is this the proper party to come forth with this action? No.
[01:56:44.600 --> 01:56:55.600]  They had a choice. They could have come forth with monetary or a foreclosure action, and they're choosing the foreclosure action because they want the property.
[01:56:55.600 --> 01:57:03.600]  And even if this person is the one who has authority to come forth, can they prove it?
[01:57:03.600 --> 01:57:13.600]  Well, what was acquired? They're claiming they have the right. The right to what?
[01:57:13.600 --> 01:57:22.600]  That's a question nobody answers. We have the right to foreclose. Really, how did you acquire that right?
[01:57:22.600 --> 01:57:29.600]  How did the homeowner give up his rights? What rights were given up? When were they given up?
[01:57:29.600 --> 01:57:36.600]  Because that's all title is, Randy. It's not about ownership at all.
[01:57:36.600 --> 01:57:39.600]  It's about rights.
[01:57:39.600 --> 01:57:46.600]  When you have title to your property, you have rights to the property.
[01:57:46.600 --> 01:57:55.600]  It's not ownership. It's not like you're going to dig up the dirt and take the dirt with you and go someplace and replant it.
[01:57:55.600 --> 01:58:03.600]  It's not like that at all. If I can't take it with me, I'm just not going.
[01:58:03.600 --> 01:58:11.600]  We're going to get you a big dump truck to take all of this dirt with you when you decide to move.
[01:58:11.600 --> 01:58:19.600]  Because you bought that dirt, and you paid for that dirt, and that's your dirt.
[01:58:19.600 --> 01:58:26.600]  Okay, I am afraid we are about out of time. Thank you, Joe, for being here.
[01:58:26.600 --> 01:58:33.600]  This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Joe Esquivel. Not necessarily in that order.
[01:58:33.600 --> 01:58:41.600]  We will be back Monday night with Eddie Quague and Deborah Stevens, and Deborah and I will be back Thursday.
[01:58:41.600 --> 01:58:50.600]  Thank you all for listening, and good night.
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