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[00:44.200 --> 00:48.840]  And now the news. Three schools in Polk County, Florida have implemented what's called an
[00:48.840 --> 00:53.980]  I-SWIPE nano program without even receiving the student's parental permission. Stanley
[00:53.980 --> 00:58.200]  Convergent Security Solutions, the company responsible for developing the program, takes
[00:58.200 --> 01:02.840]  pictures of the student's irises and can then identify when and where the students get on
[01:02.840 --> 01:07.180]  the bus, when they arrive at school, when and what bus the student boards and when and
[01:07.180 --> 01:11.480]  where they get off. Rob Davis, the school board's senior director of support services
[01:11.480 --> 01:16.800]  says the program is an effort to enhance student safety and claims the I-SWIPE nano is an ideal
[01:16.800 --> 01:20.720]  replacement for the card since your child won't be responsible for having to carry an
[01:20.720 --> 01:25.560]  ID. One parent expressed outrage at a Facebook post saying the school has stolen information
[01:25.560 --> 01:30.760]  that cannot be retrieved. Due to further backlash, the school's program is currently suspended
[01:30.760 --> 01:37.760]  and Davis says that the student's information has been destroyed.
[01:39.560 --> 01:42.480]  Freedom activist Adam Kokesh has announced that he's canceling the planned Fourth of
[01:42.480 --> 01:46.920]  July armed march on Washington, D.C. and instead is urging Second Amendment supporters to march
[01:46.920 --> 01:51.580]  on their local state capitol and protest government tyranny and Second Amendment restrictions.
[01:51.580 --> 01:54.840]  In an interview with Info Wars, the radio show, Kokesh said,
[01:54.840 --> 01:58.600]  When it comes to this event being executed properly, when the government has already
[01:58.600 --> 02:03.240]  escalated the violent tactics against me personally as an organizer, I can't, in good conscience,
[02:03.240 --> 02:07.200]  go forward with a plan that is so centrally dependent and not open source.
[02:07.200 --> 02:12.020]  So far the march has gained over 5,000 Facebook supporters. According to D.C. law, a person
[02:12.020 --> 02:15.880]  carrying a gun outside of their home or place of business can face up to five years in prison
[02:15.880 --> 02:22.880]  and a $5,000 fine.
[02:23.280 --> 02:27.760]  Boston bombing suspect Dzhokhar Sarnav suffered severe bullet wounds to the neck and has been
[02:27.760 --> 02:32.960]  unable to talk until recently he regained his voice. The 19-year-old Chechnyan suspect
[02:32.960 --> 02:37.120]  made a phone call to his mother from inside the Boston medical prison where he is being
[02:37.120 --> 02:42.160]  held. Dzhokhar's mother said her son sounded normal but maintained his innocence. He told
[02:42.160 --> 02:49.160]  her his wounds were healing rapidly and that everything was in God's hands and to be patient.
[03:12.160 --> 03:19.160]  Well I received my remedy today. It came in a box just like we say. I accept it for value
[03:26.400 --> 03:33.400]  right away. If not sooner, not later. We are originators and the pathways to the best way
[03:36.600 --> 03:37.600]  to ever stay.
[03:37.600 --> 03:43.440]  Dr. Stevens here with Steve Skidmore. We're talking to James in Arizona. James, we really
[03:43.440 --> 03:46.480]  need to move ahead. The callers are really stacking up.
[03:46.480 --> 03:48.240]  Okay, buddy.
[03:48.240 --> 03:55.240]  If you want, give me a call tomorrow or send me an email at Randy at Rule of Law Radio and
[03:58.400 --> 04:00.280]  we'll talk about this when we have more time.
[04:00.280 --> 04:03.600]  Thank you, sir. I appreciate it. Have a good evening, huh?
[04:03.600 --> 04:08.600]  All righty. Take care. Now we're going to go to Ike in Texas.
[04:08.600 --> 04:09.600]  Hi.
[04:09.600 --> 04:10.600]  Hello, Ike.
[04:10.600 --> 04:12.600]  Yes, how you doing?
[04:12.600 --> 04:17.600]  I'm doing good. What do you have for us today?
[04:17.600 --> 04:24.600]  Okay, well I was here at my computer at the house and I received a citation today. I had
[04:24.600 --> 04:33.600]  some chickens out back and of course the city doesn't like that and I saw an animal control
[04:33.600 --> 04:40.600]  officer walk in my backyard and I heard some dogs barking next door, my neighbor's dogs.
[04:40.600 --> 04:46.600]  I got up to look and saw him walking around back there. I went outside and confronted
[04:46.600 --> 04:52.600]  him and told him he was on private property and he didn't need me here. Well, he started
[04:52.600 --> 04:59.600]  quoting this citation to me and said he needed to see my ID. I told him, I said, I'm not
[04:59.600 --> 05:03.600]  going to give you an ID. He said, well, come out to the truck. I need you to come out of
[05:03.600 --> 05:09.600]  the truck and I wouldn't do it. I said, you're on private property. I said, you need to leave.
[05:09.600 --> 05:13.600]  He turned around and he says, well, this is the way it's going to be, huh? I said, yeah,
[05:13.600 --> 05:16.600]  that's the way it's going to be.
[05:16.600 --> 05:21.600]  He walked out to the front, across the street to his pickup and of course I went inside
[05:21.600 --> 05:28.600]  and I grabbed a recorder and a little bit later I saw a police patrol car pull up and
[05:28.600 --> 05:37.600]  then he got out with his citation and knocked on the door, handed it to me and I told him,
[05:37.600 --> 05:43.600]  I said, listen, I have a guy come to pick these chickens up, but he just blew that off
[05:43.600 --> 05:47.600]  and give me that citation. He asked me to sign for it. I said, I'm not going to sign
[05:47.600 --> 05:53.600]  for it. I said, you're on private property. I said, you know, you keep your citation.
[05:53.600 --> 05:58.600]  I said, I'm not giving you an ID or nothing. And he looked at the police officer. He said,
[05:58.600 --> 06:05.600]  you know, basically he said, you know, you will obey the rules here and asked me to sign
[06:05.600 --> 06:09.600]  again. I said, no, I'm not taking the ticket. So he looked at the police officer and the
[06:09.600 --> 06:14.600]  police officer says, well, just throw it down the front porch. And that's what he did. Turned
[06:14.600 --> 06:19.600]  around, walked off and before he walked off, he said, he said, we'll just see what the
[06:19.600 --> 06:27.600]  judge does with you. So I kind of took that as a little threat. But my question is when
[06:27.600 --> 06:35.600]  you're in a situation like that, basically I've been listening to your show here a couple
[06:35.600 --> 06:41.600]  of months and I love it, but I'm green at this and you know, I'd like to kind of get
[06:41.600 --> 06:44.600]  some idea of what to do.
[06:44.600 --> 06:46.600]  Welcome to our life.
[06:46.600 --> 06:53.600]  Well, there's a lot you can do. You can make this guy's life a living hell.
[06:53.600 --> 06:57.600]  I want to do that. I'm on the program now.
[06:57.600 --> 07:06.600]  Yeah. Is, you know, is this, you can probably make the citation go away without too much
[07:06.600 --> 07:11.600]  trouble. Do you have a fence around your property?
[07:11.600 --> 07:16.600]  I've got part of the fence. There's some, they've got some pet bulldogs. My neighbors
[07:16.600 --> 07:22.600]  do around me and I'm having to put one up because of a, I'm afraid my granddaughter's
[07:22.600 --> 07:23.600]  going to get bit.
[07:23.600 --> 07:30.600]  Is there any kind of barrier that this person had to cross?
[07:30.600 --> 07:37.600]  He didn't have to know one side of my house. He just, it's open up. I've got my post up,
[07:37.600 --> 07:41.600]  but I just haven't got my fence up. I'm in the process of putting a fence up.
[07:41.600 --> 07:52.600]  What color is the top of your posts? What color is the top of your posts?
[07:52.600 --> 07:54.600]  I would say they're probably brown.
[07:54.600 --> 07:56.600]  You got any purple?
[07:56.600 --> 08:01.600]  Yeah, purple in there. Probably some orange too. How about that?
[08:01.600 --> 08:08.600]  This is what, this is what the trespass statute says in, I'm sorry. Go ahead, Steve. This
[08:08.600 --> 08:09.600]  is fun.
[08:09.600 --> 08:17.600]  Yes, sir. A pole driven in the ground on or behind a property line, inside a property
[08:17.600 --> 08:27.600]  line that is at least four feet in height that is painted 12 inches or more from the
[08:27.600 --> 08:34.600]  top of the pole in purple paint is a no trespass sign.
[08:34.600 --> 08:35.600]  Okay.
[08:35.600 --> 08:41.600]  So when you, when you tell me you have poles driven in the ground, Randy's talking about
[08:41.600 --> 08:48.600]  a barrier. If the top of that pole, or if you have two poles and the top of both those
[08:48.600 --> 08:53.600]  poles, guess what? You just created a, a, a visible barrier.
[08:53.600 --> 08:58.600]  Yeah, they have to be between those two poles. They're screwed.
[08:58.600 --> 09:03.600]  Yeah. They have to be within a hundred feet of each other. And the reason they did that
[09:03.600 --> 09:11.600]  is so if you've got a hundred acres of property, you don't have to put out no trespass signs
[09:11.600 --> 09:17.600]  everywhere. You can just go paint a purple stripe on a tree or hang a yellow ribbon.
[09:17.600 --> 09:23.600]  I mean, I'm sorry, yellow ribbon, hang a purple ribbon so that it's easy enough to
[09:23.600 --> 09:31.600]  mark your property. The reason I asked if there was any barrier, if there is anything
[09:31.600 --> 09:42.600]  that marks out the edge of your property that indicates where it is, that acts as a barrier
[09:42.600 --> 09:46.600]  and you can't, a public official cannot cross it.
[09:46.600 --> 09:53.600]  Now, a private citizen could because a private citizen is not entering under any official
[09:53.600 --> 09:59.600]  capacity. My chief of police told me this once, a friend of mine dropped a propane tank
[09:59.600 --> 10:04.600]  off at my house and he come and got it. And he was a personal friend of mine. I knew him
[10:04.600 --> 10:08.600]  real well and I told him, don't you come on my property. He said, I have to come on
[10:08.600 --> 10:11.600]  your property. You get the heck out of here. You come on my property, I'll call the police
[10:11.600 --> 10:16.600]  and have them arrest you. Randy, you do that to me? I'd do it in a heartbeat and I'd
[10:16.600 --> 10:21.600]  be tackling like a hyena when I did. He said, yeah, you probably would. He said, here's
[10:21.600 --> 10:28.600]  the deal. If you drove two stakes in the ground and tied a string between those two stakes,
[10:28.600 --> 10:35.600]  I couldn't cross it. Because that would mark out your property and that would be a
[10:35.600 --> 10:42.600]  barrier. Okay. Well, it doesn't have purple paint on it. What it is, it's a partial fence,
[10:42.600 --> 10:47.600]  but he had to walk. There's a chain link fence next to me and he had to come within
[10:47.600 --> 10:53.600]  my yard. There was no two ways about that. And anyway, the thing is it got me was that
[10:53.600 --> 11:03.600]  when he walked off, he threw the ticket citation down on the floor, on my porch. You've been
[11:03.600 --> 11:11.600]  served. You have been served. That was the purpose of that. Yeah. Technically, if you
[11:11.600 --> 11:19.600]  didn't know he had done it and it blew off into the ether, then you wouldn't be responsible.
[11:19.600 --> 11:26.600]  But if you know that he had an officer there as a witness. Yeah. Okay. And the thing is
[11:26.600 --> 11:33.600]  what gets me is that this is a citation. It's like what you would get on a traffic violation.
[11:33.600 --> 11:42.600]  Yes. Okay. How long have you had your chickens? I just got it today. No chickens, chickens.
[11:42.600 --> 11:52.600]  Oh, the chickens. I had them November. Okay. What does the statute say concerning chickens?
[11:52.600 --> 11:59.600]  Basically, you can't have, now what this ticket says, it says animal keeping livestock under
[11:59.600 --> 12:07.600]  five acres. But as far as poultry goes, that's what this ticket says, citation. It says as
[12:07.600 --> 12:15.600]  far as poultry goes, you have to have at least 150 feet between houses, which I guess you
[12:15.600 --> 12:23.600]  put a tape out there, you could probably see I'm not quite there. Does the ticket say what
[12:23.600 --> 12:31.600]  the distance between the houses are? No. Is it close? It says you got to have, it's under
[12:31.600 --> 12:38.600]  five acres. You have to have under five acres. That would come up in trial. I'm wondering,
[12:38.600 --> 12:48.600]  does the does the ticket, the citation, whatever, mention any specific code? Yes, it does. It's
[12:48.600 --> 12:57.600]  0024390. And that's just a, and I looked it up, and it's just an animal keeping livestock
[12:57.600 --> 13:07.600]  under five acres. Okay. How do they, within that body of code, is animal livestock or
[13:07.600 --> 13:16.600]  poultry defined within that code? Well, I didn't get into it that far. You need to,
[13:16.600 --> 13:28.600]  you need to. Okay. Okay. Here's a good lesson. Anytime you read law, if you read a line in
[13:28.600 --> 13:38.600]  law that refers to another, I say law, I'm sorry, if you read a statute that says, or
[13:38.600 --> 13:46.600]  it refers to another statute, go read it. And if that one refers to another one, go
[13:46.600 --> 13:54.600]  read that one and that one until you've exhausted all of this. I can assure you that city guy
[13:54.600 --> 14:01.600]  doesn't read them. Right. No, no, he doesn't. Because I asked him to show me the law. I
[14:01.600 --> 14:06.600]  said, I want to see the law. And I said, not statutes, you know, or ordinances. I said,
[14:06.600 --> 14:11.600]  I want to see the law that says I can't keep it. I said, you know, I haven't heard anybody.
[14:11.600 --> 14:16.600]  I haven't done anything wrong. I said, you're walking on my private property. And I said,
[14:16.600 --> 14:22.600]  you're citing me. And you know, of course, like, okay. Okay. Hold on then. Why do you
[14:22.600 --> 14:27.600]  want to fight this fight? Just was a simple fact. I didn't like the guy back there doing
[14:27.600 --> 14:33.600]  what he did. And, uh, okay. Okay. Then, then coming to pick things up anyway, I was getting
[14:33.600 --> 14:42.600]  rid of them. Okay. When did you enter into a contract with the city that gave them authority
[14:42.600 --> 14:49.600]  to enforce their corporate law against you? Corporate rules? No, I don't sell or anything
[14:49.600 --> 14:59.600]  like that. You know, see, they're not, they are not authorized by the Texas constitution
[14:59.600 --> 15:06.600]  to write law. Only the Texas legislature is authorized to write law. And the Texas legislature
[15:06.600 --> 15:14.600]  is not authorized to delegate that power. This is a, this is a corporation and they
[15:14.600 --> 15:21.600]  can write corporate rules. That's why they call them ordinances. They're not laws. Okay.
[15:21.600 --> 15:28.600]  And if you are entered into a contract with them, wherein you agree to abide by their
[15:28.600 --> 15:40.600]  corporate rules, then this is all civil. None of it's criminal. So first thing, challenge
[15:40.600 --> 15:50.600]  the subject matter jurisdiction. Always the first thing prove up that you have authority
[15:50.600 --> 16:00.100]  to enforce this law against me. Show how you got jurisdiction. Okay. This will be the cheapest
[16:00.100 --> 16:08.600]  legal education you ever got. You need to listen in on Monday and call in and talk to
[16:08.600 --> 16:15.600]  Eddie Craig. Okay. He will go into this cause he primarily does traffic, but he also does
[16:15.600 --> 16:22.600]  this municipal issue. This is actually his argument. Uh, he'll give you a lot more detail
[16:22.600 --> 16:28.600]  on how to chart challenge the subject matter jurisdiction of the municipal court. I'll
[16:28.600 --> 16:36.600]  vouch for that. Well, I'll tell you what, it's amazing. I love the program. I will listen
[16:36.600 --> 16:41.600]  and I appreciate what you've done for me. Okay. Thank you. Keep us up to date on what
[16:41.600 --> 16:46.600]  matters. Okay, we're going to break. This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of
[16:46.600 --> 16:53.600]  Law Radio. Our call in number 512-646-1984. Kathy, Rob, Johnny, I see you there. We will
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[19:18.600 --> 19:27.600]  people hurt you. Until Satan get behind you. Know what I mean? My friend, knowledge actually
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[19:45.600 --> 19:52.600]  OK, we are back. Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio, and we're going to Kathy
[19:52.600 --> 19:56.600]  in Missouri. Hello, Miss Kathy.
[19:56.600 --> 19:59.600]  Hi, Randy. Hi, how are you?
[19:59.600 --> 20:08.600]  I am wonderful. Don't let him laugh. I don't care what everybody says.
[20:08.600 --> 20:13.600]  Well, I've been on the trail of, you know, trying to figure out some things and I don't know
[20:13.600 --> 20:17.600]  if you remember talking to me before, but I was the mortgage collector for both Chase and City
[20:17.600 --> 20:22.600]  after they took him as a write off. And they lied about the right to sell mortgage.
[20:22.600 --> 20:28.600]  The trustees did that I work for and come to find out the board of directors are over 35
[20:28.600 --> 20:34.600]  the top offices in our country, not just hold on, hold on, hold on. Talk a little slower.
[20:34.600 --> 20:39.600]  OK. Yeah, I don't listen that fast.
[20:39.600 --> 20:44.600]  OK, go ahead now. The company I used to work for their board of directors are over 35
[20:44.600 --> 20:49.600]  with the top law offices in the country. And they lied about the right to sell mortgage
[20:49.600 --> 20:57.600]  to me for two and a half years. Well, I ended up trying to stop the foreclosure crisis in 2008
[20:57.600 --> 21:03.600]  when I figured out what was going on and that they were stealing houses. Right.
[21:03.600 --> 21:08.600]  And they ended up removing an adversary on the court record because my attorney refused to file it.
[21:08.600 --> 21:13.600]  So then I did my own and I put this into the court record.
[21:13.600 --> 21:19.600]  OK. I'm sorry. I don't want to talk so fast.
[21:19.600 --> 21:25.600]  Slow down a little bit. Your words are kind of running together. I can't. And fidelity is not great.
[21:25.600 --> 21:31.600]  So I'm having a little trouble with it. OK, go ahead, please.
[21:31.600 --> 21:37.600]  Yes, please. Hello.
[21:37.600 --> 21:41.600]  Are you still there? I am.
[21:41.600 --> 21:46.600]  OK, great. You didn't need to slow down that much.
[21:46.600 --> 21:52.600]  OK, go ahead, Kathy. OK. I work for a company called National Asset Recovery.
[21:52.600 --> 21:57.600]  And after two and a half years, I found out they lied about the right to sell mortgage notes.
[21:57.600 --> 22:03.600]  And I found out after I took eighty thousand dollars from an investor about this.
[22:03.600 --> 22:08.600]  Needless to say, I lost my job because I didn't hang up on this mortgage debt investor.
[22:08.600 --> 22:12.600]  And come to find out, she's like what I would consider a rogue debt investor.
[22:12.600 --> 22:19.600]  She basically is buying mortgages on houses before they go to the sale to make as much as she can.
[22:19.600 --> 22:26.600]  She doesn't care who she sues, if it's a homeowner or a bank, as long as it puts money in her pocket when she buys these notes.
[22:26.600 --> 22:30.600]  And I lost my job over.
[22:30.600 --> 22:33.600]  And once I lost my job, I still had a way to pay my bills.
[22:33.600 --> 22:39.600]  It just meant that they would have to do some honest business because I took, you know, some bankers that I know to city.
[22:39.600 --> 22:44.600]  I took a guy with like one hundred fifty thousand a month and another guy with ten to fifty billion dollars a month
[22:44.600 --> 22:53.600]  and couldn't get anything done for non-performing assets, whether it was non-performing mortgages or the deficiency balance notes once they already took the houses.
[22:53.600 --> 23:01.600]  And I faced my own attorney not caring, you know, about me having a way to pay my bills.
[23:01.600 --> 23:06.600]  Well, what's the use of me having a way to pay my bills if nobody has to do anything, right?
[23:06.600 --> 23:11.600]  I don't know where you're going.
[23:11.600 --> 23:15.600]  Well, I know. And that's why I keep on going.
[23:15.600 --> 23:23.600]  At any rate, when my own attorney refused to represent me, I did my own adversary and I put it into the court record along with the one that he refused to file
[23:23.600 --> 23:27.600]  because he said I didn't have no merits on my case, you know.
[23:27.600 --> 23:33.600]  I was like, well, what's the use of me having a way to pay my bills, you know, if that's the only way I've got to pay?
[23:33.600 --> 23:37.600]  I'm a banker, you know, that's what I've been doing as a profession.
[23:37.600 --> 23:45.600]  So, I faced them removing all these court documents and everything with the adversary and I went back to court
[23:45.600 --> 23:53.600]  and I sued the federal bankruptcy judge here in St. Louis for threats on my house because if I've only got one way to pay, how the hell do you want me to pay?
[23:53.600 --> 23:59.600]  You know, if I'm telling you here somebody with $150,000 a month or somebody with $10 to $50 million a month
[23:59.600 --> 24:02.600]  and it's not good enough for the bank, what do you want me to do, you know?
[24:02.600 --> 24:06.600]  And we actually have a way to rectify the whole foreclosure crisis.
[24:06.600 --> 24:16.600]  At any rate, they removed court documents and when I sued the federal bankruptcy judge, I ended up with two recusals.
[24:16.600 --> 24:23.600]  Before I got the recusal, I asked for a temporary restraining order to stop the sale of my home in the federal court
[24:23.600 --> 24:28.600]  because of what he did in the federal bankruptcy court instead of just going to state court.
[24:28.600 --> 24:34.600]  And she denied me a temporary restraining order, so then I put in a motion to vacate that order
[24:34.600 --> 24:40.600]  and when I put in a motion to vacate her order, instead of taking less than 10 days, she took about 60 and she came back
[24:40.600 --> 24:46.600]  and she summarily denied everything as frivolous, like I filed something to try to harass the court.
[24:46.600 --> 24:53.600]  And then 60 days later, she came back on her own motion sopante, disqualified and recused herself.
[24:53.600 --> 24:56.600]  And then the next judge recused himself.
[24:56.600 --> 25:02.600]  And the final judge said that they had no subject matter jurisdiction for their final 12B6 like you were talking about
[25:02.600 --> 25:05.600]  tonight in the show, so that was really helpful.
[25:05.600 --> 25:11.600]  But long and sick of it all is my grandmother always knew something was up with my grandfather going missing.
[25:11.600 --> 25:20.600]  She didn't know exactly what it was, but he went missing to her in like 1946 and she just wanted to know what happened to him.
[25:20.600 --> 25:27.600]  So I started investigating what happened to him before she died in 2011 and it's been like a long history trail
[25:27.600 --> 25:34.600]  because the first thing I did is I called the Social Security office to see if my grandfather ever updated his Social Security card,
[25:34.600 --> 25:39.600]  gave me one of the top merch collectors, I used to call the Social Security office to see if I could find out anything, you know, for an address.
[25:39.600 --> 25:42.600]  Okay, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
[25:42.600 --> 25:44.600]  Where are you going here?
[25:44.600 --> 25:50.600]  I'm the great-granddaughter of the real Kenny O'Hara as in Gone with the Wind, I found out.
[25:50.600 --> 25:55.600]  Yeah, but do you have a question or an issue for us to address?
[25:55.600 --> 25:57.600]  Well, that's what I'm trying to get at.
[25:57.600 --> 26:02.600]  They tried to keep my true identity from me my whole life and made my grandmother out to be one of the biggest fictional characters
[26:02.600 --> 26:07.600]  of all time with Gone with the Wind.
[26:07.600 --> 26:08.600]  You see?
[26:08.600 --> 26:09.600]  Okay.
[26:09.600 --> 26:13.600]  They watched my whole life and the government has, yes.
[26:13.600 --> 26:17.600]  Okay, but is there an issue here?
[26:17.600 --> 26:23.600]  Yeah, enforced government identity fraud.
[26:23.600 --> 26:24.600]  Okay.
[26:24.600 --> 26:28.600]  That one's a little bit above my pay grade.
[26:28.600 --> 26:31.600]  I have no idea.
[26:31.600 --> 26:37.600]  Wait a minute, who has done identity fraud?
[26:37.600 --> 26:44.600]  Well, like I said, I called the Social Security office my first step of checking on my grandfather to see what happened to him.
[26:44.600 --> 26:47.600]  And he updated his Social Security card a couple times.
[26:47.600 --> 26:52.600]  And when he did, at one point in time, he put his mother down as Katie O'Hara as in Gone with the Wind.
[26:52.600 --> 26:55.600]  And I said, no way possible.
[26:55.600 --> 26:56.600]  However...
[26:56.600 --> 26:59.600]  Wait, wait, he put his mother down as what?
[26:59.600 --> 27:01.600]  You're talking too fast.
[27:01.600 --> 27:04.600]  Everything's running together.
[27:04.600 --> 27:07.600]  As Katie O'Hara as in Gone with the Wind.
[27:07.600 --> 27:08.600]  Oh, okay.
[27:08.600 --> 27:10.600]  He put her name, okay.
[27:10.600 --> 27:13.600]  He put her name down as his mother.
[27:13.600 --> 27:15.600]  And I was like, no way possible.
[27:15.600 --> 27:18.600]  Anything to do with the real movie Gone with the Wind.
[27:18.600 --> 27:19.600]  Okay.
[27:19.600 --> 27:21.600]  Okay.
[27:21.600 --> 27:34.600]  And unfortunately, unfortunately, what I figured out is that it's actually very true because one of the other family pictures I have is a man by the name of Patrick Durack.
[27:34.600 --> 27:40.600]  And what I figured out is that Mr. Durack was in the Civil War.
[27:40.600 --> 27:46.600]  He probably fought at every battle at the Civil War.
[27:46.600 --> 27:51.600]  And he served underneath some very respected members of our country.
[27:51.600 --> 27:53.600]  And he was actually a minor.
[27:53.600 --> 27:57.600]  And he actually had a quarry out in Pecos out there.
[27:57.600 --> 27:58.600]  Wait a minute.
[27:58.600 --> 27:59.600]  Okay.
[27:59.600 --> 28:01.600]  We're hearing on your whole life's history.
[28:01.600 --> 28:04.600]  What is the point here?
[28:04.600 --> 28:11.600]  The whole point is that they told Americans that Gone with the Wind was a fictional story for 80 years.
[28:11.600 --> 28:15.600]  She was not a fictional character is what I'm bringing up to a point.
[28:15.600 --> 28:19.600]  She was not a sexual what?
[28:19.600 --> 28:24.600]  Not if she said Katie O'Hara was not a fictional character.
[28:24.600 --> 28:27.600]  Katie O'Hara was your mother.
[28:27.600 --> 28:28.600]  Is that right?
[28:28.600 --> 28:30.600]  My great grandmother.
[28:30.600 --> 28:31.600]  Your great grandmother.
[28:31.600 --> 28:32.600]  Okay.
[28:32.600 --> 28:33.600]  Okay.
[28:33.600 --> 28:34.600]  Okay.
[28:34.600 --> 28:36.600]  I still don't know where you're going.
[28:36.600 --> 28:38.600]  Is there a cause of action here?
[28:38.600 --> 28:40.600]  I mean, that's kind of what we're looking for.
[28:40.600 --> 28:52.600]  Well, that's what I'm trying to figure out. I mean, because how do you tell somebody that there's somebody their whole life and you figure out in your family pictures that they lied to you about your true identity to where you don't even know who you are anymore?
[28:52.600 --> 28:53.600]  Okay.
[28:53.600 --> 28:54.600]  Wow.
[28:54.600 --> 29:10.600]  I mean, that may be annoying, but unless you were defrauded perhaps of Katie O'Hara's estate, then you don't have it. I don't know. I can't find a claim here.
[29:10.600 --> 29:24.600]  And that's what I need to find out is about the probate records, because this particular gold miner, he helped bring Ward County to fruition down there in Texas, and they put out about six million barrels of oil a year.
[29:24.600 --> 29:28.600]  And he had like 640 acres there in Texas.
[29:28.600 --> 29:32.600]  Do you have any kind of claim on that?
[29:32.600 --> 29:35.600]  That's what I'm trying to find out.
[29:35.600 --> 29:36.600]  Okay.
[29:36.600 --> 29:37.600]  Well, I would-
[29:37.600 --> 29:38.600]  County records.
[29:38.600 --> 29:39.600]  Yeah.
[29:39.600 --> 29:59.600]  This show is the wrong place for that. We sure wouldn't know how to do that. Hang on. This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio. My call-in number is 512-646-1984, and we'll be right back on the other side.
[29:59.600 --> 30:13.600]  India's snake charmers face dangers every day, but that's nothing compared to the wrath they face from animal rights activists. I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be back in just a moment to tell you why 1,000 snake handlers are taken to the streets to protest.
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[30:44.600 --> 30:58.600]  The Snake Charmers Federation of India is a coalition of thousands fighting for the right to perform street shows with live snakes, I kid you not. An amazing 800,000 Indians make a living from their craft, which is handed down from father to son.
[30:58.600 --> 31:09.600]  When India passed a wildlife protection act that outlaws the ancient practice of snake charming, 1,000 snake handlers turned out to protest. About 20,000 people are now in jail for defying the ban.
[31:09.600 --> 31:21.600]  But it turns out the charmers aren't quite as brave as they let on. Animal rights activists say they often sew snakes' mouths shut, remove their fangs, or destroy their venom glands to make them harmless and defenseless.
[31:21.600 --> 31:29.600]  Ack, that's not charming at all. I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[31:29.600 --> 31:42.600]  This is Building 7, a 47-story skyscraper that fell on the afternoon of September 11th. The government says that fire brought it down. However, 1,500 architects and engineers concluded it was a controlled demolition.
[31:42.600 --> 31:54.600]  Over 6,000 of my fellow service members have given their lives. Thousands of my fellow first responders are dying. I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I'm a structural engineer. I'm a New York City correction officer. I'm an Air Force pilot. I'm a father who lost his son.
[31:54.600 --> 32:00.600]  We're Americans, and we deserve the truth. Go to RememberBuilding7.org today.
[32:00.600 --> 32:09.600]  It is so enlightening to listen to 90.1 FM, but finding things on the internet isn't so easy, and neither is finding like-minded people to share it with.
[32:09.600 --> 32:13.600]  Oh, well, I guess you haven't heard of Brave New Books, then. Brave New Books?
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[32:24.600 --> 32:26.600]  There's no way a place like that exists.
[32:26.600 --> 32:32.600]  Go check it out for yourself. It's downtown at 1904 Guadalupe Street, just south of UT.
[32:32.600 --> 32:35.600]  By UT, there's never anywhere to park down there.
[32:35.600 --> 32:43.600]  Actually, they now offer a free hour of parking for paying customers at the 500 MLK Parking Facility, just behind the bookstore.
[32:43.600 --> 32:46.600]  It does exist, but when are they open?
[32:46.600 --> 33:00.600]  Monday through Saturday, 11 AM to 9 PM, and 1 to 6 PM on Sundays, so give them a call at 512-480-2503, or check out their events page at bravenewbookstore.com.
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[33:30.600 --> 33:49.600]  Yeah, I won't. Oh, I won't. I won't let you pull the wool over my eyes.
[33:49.600 --> 33:53.600]  I simply must refuse your news.
[33:53.600 --> 34:18.600]  My name is Calvin Deborah Stevens, ruler of Laredo, and we're talking to Kathy in Missouri. Kathy, from what I gather so far, you're assuming that because your grandfather put a name on a birth certificate or a Social Security document that indicated that one of your ancestors was Katie O'Hara.
[34:18.600 --> 34:29.600]  And you're assuming that that Katie O'Hara was not a fictional character, but actually a real human being.
[34:29.600 --> 34:39.600]  And if there was a Katie O'Hara, is that the same Katie O'Hara that was talked about in the book?
[34:39.600 --> 35:04.600]  And did the Katie O'Hara have an estate? And if they had an estate, was the estate probated or did she die without a will or some subsequent holder of the estate die without a will that would leave you in line for inheritance?
[35:04.600 --> 35:09.600]  Am I that kind of where we're at?
[35:09.600 --> 35:11.600]  Yes, that's a big part of it.
[35:11.600 --> 35:22.600]  Okay. Have you established as a fact that this Katie O'Hara is the same Katie O'Hara from the book?
[35:22.600 --> 35:35.600]  Well, the closest I've been able to get to tracking all this down with what he's put is that it's related to a gold miner that was out in El Paso.
[35:35.600 --> 35:43.600]  Now wait a minute, wait a minute. We can't run from Katie O'Hara to gold miners in El Paso. How did we get there?
[35:43.600 --> 35:57.600]  Okay, I was going to give you the next point. I've been doing all this research and what I came up with, somebody recently in April put down that my gold miner was a companion to Billy the Kid, okay, when he was out there in El Paso.
[35:57.600 --> 36:07.600]  And that Teddy Roosevelt when he was out there with the Rough Riders and the war out there, you know, in Mexico when they were there and Billy the Kid was there.
[36:07.600 --> 36:27.600]  No, wait a minute, wait a minute. That's all screwed. Hold on. That is all screwed up. The Rough Riders were in the 1890s. Billy the Kid was 1870s, 80s. They weren't anywhere near the same place. The Rough Riders were in Spain and I mean in Cuba.
[36:27.600 --> 36:38.600]  They didn't have anything to do with any conflict in between the US and Mexico. Besides, there wasn't any at that time. Something's not right here.
[36:38.600 --> 36:40.600]  All I was trying to get at.
[36:40.600 --> 36:52.600]  I still don't know where you're going. I don't know why you're here talking to us. So far, I haven't heard anything that I could give you any help with.
[36:52.600 --> 37:01.600]  I understand. Going along with this, the person who is known as the real Katie O'Hara, if you go and look her up, you can look her up online as easily as I did.
[37:01.600 --> 37:09.600]  Wait, wait. You are going to have to slow down. You're talking so fast, I can't understand a thing you're saying. Everything's just running together. You got to slow down.
[37:09.600 --> 37:19.600]  I don't mean to talk so fast, but from what I was able to read was that the real Katie O'Hara was Teddy Roosevelt's mother.
[37:19.600 --> 37:24.600]  And I didn't think that would be the case until somebody put down that Patrick was a companion to Billy the Kid.
[37:24.600 --> 37:25.600]  Okay, now wait a minute.
[37:25.600 --> 37:28.600]  And the plot thickens.
[37:28.600 --> 37:33.600]  Oh, you ought to see this affidavit I put together. It's phenomenal.
[37:33.600 --> 37:42.600]  It would be better. This is not the place to do all of this. We've got people with issues that go to what we do.
[37:42.600 --> 37:48.600]  And this is not going to anything we can give you any help in.
[37:48.600 --> 37:59.600]  I appreciate it's an interesting story, but we're using up a lot of our time and we're not going anywhere.
[37:59.600 --> 38:09.600]  If you want, send me an email. Email this to me where I can read it.
[38:09.600 --> 38:19.600]  Hello, are you there? I think she hung up. I'm sure we're still on the board.
[38:19.600 --> 38:22.600]  Yes, there she is. There she is.
[38:22.600 --> 38:25.600]  I'm here. Okay.
[38:25.600 --> 38:30.600]  Have you written this out? Do you have a synopsis of this?
[38:30.600 --> 38:35.600]  This part of it, I've almost got the affidavit for. I have a video up on YouTube already.
[38:35.600 --> 38:39.600]  I got to recuse in federal court in knowing all this.
[38:39.600 --> 38:43.600]  Send me a link to that. This is way too complex.
[38:43.600 --> 38:49.600]  I can't get it figured out. You're talking too fast. I can't really sort out what you're saying.
[38:49.600 --> 38:53.600]  If you'll send me a link to that, I'll look at it.
[38:53.600 --> 38:58.600]  And it sounds like an interesting story. But right now, I need to move along.
[38:58.600 --> 39:06.600]  We've got a stack of callers and we're running out of time. And this will take way too long for us to get to any place.
[39:06.600 --> 39:11.600]  So send me an email so I can or send me a link to your video.
[39:11.600 --> 39:17.600]  OK. And then once I understand it better, maybe I can sort this out better on the air.
[39:17.600 --> 39:21.600]  No problem. Thanks, guys. Thank you.
[39:21.600 --> 39:29.600]  OK, now we're going to go to Rob in New Mexico.
[39:29.600 --> 39:33.600]  Hey, Randy. Hello. Hello, good buddy.
[39:33.600 --> 39:39.600]  I think I can clarify a few things. It was Scarlett, not Katie, and it was Georgia, not Texas.
[39:39.600 --> 39:43.600]  But really, it was David Patrick O'Hara who played Stephen in Braveheart.
[39:43.600 --> 39:50.600]  He's the one that said he was the most wanted man on his island, except he was not on his island because he was in Scotland.
[39:50.600 --> 40:01.600]  He is a time traveler. And he went back and wrote Gone with the Wind is an allegory about Irish independence using the Civil War in America.
[40:01.600 --> 40:07.600]  Now that was on point. Now I'm thoroughly, thoroughly confused.
[40:07.600 --> 40:11.600]  Yeah. Yeah. There you go. So a couple of brief updates for you.
[40:11.600 --> 40:22.600]  We got a case appeal filed in the proper court and the clerk of the court told us that that was a civil matter.
[40:22.600 --> 40:27.600]  The traffic offense, not a criminal matter. That was kind of fun.
[40:27.600 --> 40:33.600]  And then we went back to file that proper notice of appeal in the magistrate court.
[40:33.600 --> 40:38.600]  And they were very angry with us in the magistrate court because they did not want it appealed.
[40:38.600 --> 40:43.600]  So we're waiting to hear from the district court about that.
[40:43.600 --> 40:57.600]  My federal court case against Bank of America, Bank of America just filed a motion for summary judgment and put in an affidavit from somebody claiming to know everything all about Bank of America's records.
[40:57.600 --> 41:07.600]  And in that affidavit, he claimed under penalty of perjury that they had never received any written communication from me prior to that lawsuit.
[41:07.600 --> 41:19.600]  Their own records that they produced in discovery and their own admissions and discovery acknowledge that they received my certified dispute letter.
[41:19.600 --> 41:23.600]  So have you filed criminal charges against the maker of the affidavit?
[41:23.600 --> 41:27.600]  I'm gonna.
[41:27.600 --> 41:29.600]  That ought to get their attention.
[41:29.600 --> 41:37.600]  Yeah. Now the new things that I've got going. One, I can pretty much handle.
[41:37.600 --> 41:51.600]  The county finally answered my prayers and they filed a criminal complaint against me in the magistrate court for animals running at large.
[41:51.600 --> 41:53.600]  This is over my goats.
[41:53.600 --> 41:57.600]  Animals running at large what?
[41:57.600 --> 42:08.600]  County ordinance in a fence out state because my goats have jumped over the fence and gotten out of my yard and we catch him and bring him back and they jump out.
[42:08.600 --> 42:14.600]  Are they running at large trees? Are they running at large dogs?
[42:14.600 --> 42:23.600]  Well, the main concern, I believe, is that they're running at the large crazy cat lady down the road.
[42:23.600 --> 42:25.600]  Somebody needs to keep her on her toes.
[42:25.600 --> 42:27.600]  Yeah.
[42:27.600 --> 42:29.600]  So this is going to be fun.
[42:29.600 --> 42:31.600]  They just, you know, New Mexico's offense out of state.
[42:31.600 --> 42:36.600]  Last year they had a bill before the legislature to make a defense in state.
[42:36.600 --> 42:38.600]  It failed.
[42:38.600 --> 42:49.600]  Last year there was a case in Bernalillo County, which is the next county over, where the county went after a guy that had livestock that was roaming at large and they said he couldn't do that.
[42:49.600 --> 42:58.600]  And he challenged it all the way up to the state supreme court and the state supreme court said the county can't make an ordinance that violates what they can make.
[42:58.600 --> 43:06.600]  They can't enforce an ordinance in violation of state law, which the state law says that you can have your critters grazing at large all you want.
[43:06.600 --> 43:20.600]  The only problem with having them grazing at large is if they get into someone else's fenced property without their permission and cause damage, then you're liable for the damage that your animals cause inside their fenced property.
[43:20.600 --> 43:28.600]  Okay, so you have current case law that says that they can't do this.
[43:28.600 --> 43:31.600]  These guys are screwed.
[43:31.600 --> 43:34.600]  Yeah, they're totally screwed.
[43:34.600 --> 43:36.600]  No, no, no, no.
[43:36.600 --> 43:38.600]  Screws V.U.S.
[43:38.600 --> 43:43.600]  We're about to go to break. When we come back we'll talk about Screws V.U.S.
[43:43.600 --> 43:45.600]  You are going to like this one.
[43:45.600 --> 43:48.600]  This is Randy Kelton, Dermot Stevens, Rule of Law Radio.
[43:48.600 --> 43:52.600]  Our call-in number is 512-646-1984.
[43:52.600 --> 44:01.600]  Give us a call and we'll be right back.
[44:01.600 --> 44:10.600]  Mr. President, Members of Congress, you've been making a lot of noise about taking our guns away, but you might want to review history.
[44:10.600 --> 44:14.600]  1835, Gonzales, Texas Territory.
[44:14.600 --> 44:19.600]  The authorities wanted to confiscate the big gun that protected that colony.
[44:19.600 --> 44:21.600]  You know what the people said?
[44:21.600 --> 44:23.600]  Come and take it.
[44:23.600 --> 44:28.600]  Because they were willing to fight for their freedom and their guns.
[44:28.600 --> 44:30.600]  So are we.
[44:30.600 --> 44:33.600]  Come and take it if you want it.
[44:33.600 --> 44:36.600]  Come and take it if you think you can.
[44:36.600 --> 44:39.600]  Come and take it, but I warn you.
[44:39.600 --> 44:42.600]  You'll have to pry it from our cold dead hands.
[44:42.600 --> 44:46.600]  We want the freedom that God gave us.
[44:46.600 --> 44:49.600]  So you best not cross that line.
[44:49.600 --> 44:54.600]  If you want this gun you gotta come through us and take it.
[44:54.600 --> 44:56.600]  One shot at a time.
[44:56.600 --> 45:00.600]  Just like Gonzales, we're keeping our guns.
[45:26.600 --> 45:28.600]  You can too.
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[46:22.600 --> 46:29.600]  Always I must be careful what I'm wishing for.
[46:29.600 --> 46:34.600]  When I'm hungry I like to know just what I'm fishing for.
[46:34.600 --> 46:40.600]  I ain't asking for much. I ain't trying to be no glutton.
[46:40.600 --> 46:46.600]  I'm just here making my living pushing buttons.
[46:46.600 --> 46:56.600]  I get my message out.
[46:56.600 --> 46:59.600]  And you guys missed the break. We had a great time on the break.
[46:59.600 --> 47:02.600]  We were telling truck driver jokes.
[47:02.600 --> 47:03.600]  Yeah.
[47:03.600 --> 47:05.600]  You still there, Ron?
[47:05.600 --> 47:09.600]  I resemble that.
[47:09.600 --> 47:13.600]  Well, we weren't joking about truck drivers.
[47:13.600 --> 47:24.600]  All right, Randy, I'm going to turn my mic off. You lie our way out of this, would you?
[47:24.600 --> 47:29.600]  We were talking about something I said to a caller several years ago.
[47:29.600 --> 47:34.600]  Anyway, where were we, Rob?
[47:34.600 --> 47:39.600]  We were talking about the county being screwed.
[47:39.600 --> 47:40.600]  Yeah. Oh, screwed.
[47:40.600 --> 47:41.600]  Screwed.
[47:41.600 --> 47:42.600]  Yeah.
[47:42.600 --> 47:49.600]  Screws v. U.S. 1945 case, still good law.
[47:49.600 --> 47:59.600]  The sheriff and two deputies in a bar drinking, they're upset at this black guy.
[47:59.600 --> 48:02.600]  And they're going to go arrest him. The bartender tries to talk him out of it.
[48:02.600 --> 48:04.600]  They won't be dissuaded.
[48:04.600 --> 48:09.600]  They arrest him and wind up beating him to death on the courthouse steps.
[48:09.600 --> 48:16.600]  They're prosecuted, they're sued in the state, then they're sued in the Fed.
[48:16.600 --> 48:26.600]  Well, they came to the Fed and complained that they didn't have notice that they could be sued in the Fed as well as the state.
[48:26.600 --> 48:46.600]  And what the court said was that if a person consistently acts in a manner that has been ruled improper by this court, he violates due process in the most basic sense of the term.
[48:46.600 --> 49:01.600]  If a public official violates a ruling of this court and he be sane, he may not be heard to say he knows not what he does.
[49:01.600 --> 49:20.600]  That means every public official is held to be knowledgeable of every court case affecting the exercise of his authority.
[49:20.600 --> 49:33.600]  These guys can't come to court and say they didn't know that the Supreme Court, that State Supreme had ruled against this particular application of law.
[49:33.600 --> 49:40.600]  I'd go after him criminally for it.
[49:40.600 --> 49:45.600]  Did we lose Rob? Oh, he's, uh...
[49:45.600 --> 49:51.600]  Rob, you were sounding far more intelligent than usual and articulate.
[49:51.600 --> 49:53.600]  Why, was I quiet?
[49:53.600 --> 49:58.600]  You were muted.
[49:58.600 --> 50:05.600]  Gee, Randy, I don't know why I was calling you. You just pick on me. I might as well just call and talk to Eddie and get good advice on Monday.
[50:05.600 --> 50:08.600]  Stop breathing.
[50:08.600 --> 50:10.600]  Okay.
[50:10.600 --> 50:29.600]  No, I've got a hearing on Monday over this, and it's before the same county magistrate that tried to railroad Kay a few months ago and wouldn't let me act as her assistance of counsel, which the state law says that I can do in magistrate court.
[50:29.600 --> 50:36.600]  Well, did you find the statute concerning official misconduct or official oppression?
[50:36.600 --> 50:45.600]  That's the one I was supposed to send you. I haven't found official misconduct or official oppression, but I did find the Government Conduct Act, which says...
[50:45.600 --> 50:48.600]  That's the one that was a felony?
[50:48.600 --> 50:54.600]  No, I misread it. It wasn't a felony. I thought it was a class four felony. It's only a misdemeanor.
[50:54.600 --> 50:59.600]  Okay, well file that with the district attorney.
[50:59.600 --> 51:03.600]  Just run the routine. That'll be great fun.
[51:03.600 --> 51:13.600]  Then when you come back before the magistrate, you disqualify him because you've already got one set of criminal charges against him. You don't want him sitting in jail too long.
[51:13.600 --> 51:26.600]  Well, this is the guy that's up for retirement in October, and we plan on letting him have an enjoyable and productive and busy retirement, fighting in federal court cases.
[51:26.600 --> 51:28.600]  Good.
[51:28.600 --> 51:31.600]  Okay, do you have anything else for us?
[51:31.600 --> 51:36.600]  Yeah, I do. It's about contract law and fraud by non-disclosure.
[51:36.600 --> 51:41.600]  I got a new job a month ago. I'll try to make this as quick as I can.
[51:41.600 --> 51:49.600]  I was hired on, not as an employee, but as an independent contractor driving a company truck pulling a company trailer.
[51:49.600 --> 51:56.600]  The owner of the company told me that sometimes their pay is late.
[51:56.600 --> 52:05.600]  I said, that's fine. I understand it's a small company. Just let me know ahead of time so that the wife can plan the bills and groceries and everything.
[52:05.600 --> 52:11.600]  I agreed to that. After I hired and signed the contract and everything, I found out that sometimes they don't pay at all.
[52:11.600 --> 52:18.600]  Sometimes the checks balance and that they've filed bankruptcy several times in the last couple of years.
[52:18.600 --> 52:24.600]  They wanted me to run completely illegal, not just coloring outside the lines a little bit.
[52:24.600 --> 52:30.600]  After about four weeks, they did not have a check for me.
[52:30.600 --> 52:39.600]  When I said, I'm not going out until you pay me, they called that a voluntary walk-off and said that I quit.
[52:39.600 --> 52:42.600]  That's theft of services.
[52:42.600 --> 52:59.600]  If you work for someone and you work the hours they direct you to work and you use their tools and equipment, you are not contract labor.
[52:59.600 --> 53:05.600]  The IRS will get real excited about that.
[53:05.600 --> 53:15.600]  They will work these guys over. Steve, do you remember what the form is to file for income tax fraud?
[53:15.600 --> 53:18.600]  No, I don't. Not offhand.
[53:18.600 --> 53:27.600]  Something 49-39-49 or something like that. We just talked about that recently.
[53:27.600 --> 53:31.600]  The IRS is not my area, so I don't continue to hold that.
[53:31.600 --> 53:38.600]  Let me see if I can pull that back up. Yeah, it rang a bell.
[53:38.600 --> 53:43.600]  There's a form to file on that issue.
[53:43.600 --> 53:51.600]  You might not want to do that until you let them know you're going to do that if they don't pay you.
[53:51.600 --> 53:56.600]  Because if the IRS gets them first, you won't get anything. The IRS will get it all.
[53:56.600 --> 54:03.600]  Well, wait a minute. Okay, there's a problem with that.
[54:03.600 --> 54:17.600]  It is extortion to hold against someone to use that as a tool to get somebody to...
[54:17.600 --> 54:33.600]  If you're seeking a remedy on a civil issue, you cannot use a criminal allegation to leverage the outcome of that civil case.
[54:33.600 --> 54:37.600]  That is extortion.
[54:37.600 --> 54:43.600]  If you're going to walk that line, walk it very, very carefully.
[54:43.600 --> 54:51.600]  I have never heard that it's extortion. I've heard the court subject to you.
[54:51.600 --> 55:02.600]  You're using criminal to gain advantage in civil, but not extortion. Extortion always goes to illegal behavior.
[55:02.600 --> 55:16.600]  Right. Well, it's illegal behavior to say that, hey, I could get you thrown in jail if you don't see things my way on this civil issue. That's extortion.
[55:16.600 --> 55:20.600]  I'd have to look at that. Could be.
[55:20.600 --> 55:23.600]  And I'd hate to advise you to commit extortion.
[55:23.600 --> 55:30.600]  No, so I should sue them and then a couple days after I file the suit, report them to the IRS?
[55:30.600 --> 55:37.600]  No. The IRS gets a hold of them. They won't have any money to pay you.
[55:37.600 --> 55:47.600]  So you might sue them and accuse them of claiming that you were contract labor when you could not be contract labor.
[55:47.600 --> 55:53.600]  And they're criminals and they did this for the purpose of defrauding you and the IRS.
[55:53.600 --> 56:06.600]  Right. If you do that in the state court, that lets them know that they got bigger problems if they don't make this go away without you threatening them directly.
[56:06.600 --> 56:12.600]  I never like direct threats anyway. They're being investigated by the federal DOT.
[56:12.600 --> 56:19.600]  And I got a business card from the federal DOT version that's investigating them.
[56:19.600 --> 56:26.600]  It sounds to me like they've got a really poor track record and that they've been under the microscope before.
[56:26.600 --> 56:36.600]  OK, this sounds like what they're trying to do is get what they owe you not construed as wages.
[56:36.600 --> 56:45.600]  This is not my area, but it seems like I remember that wages go first even before IRS.
[56:45.600 --> 56:54.600]  They were supposed to give me a check on the 18th and I went down and talked to them on the 22nd and they were already four days late.
[56:54.600 --> 57:02.600]  And they said that because I was refusing to go out and do this run on the 23rd, that they were construing that as a walk off a voluntary quit.
[57:02.600 --> 57:07.600]  And they would send me my final check, you know, whenever they got around to it.
[57:07.600 --> 57:23.600]  You might go to a court and petition for a restraining order and ask him to give you a claim against the best truck they got and go down there and put a lock on it.
[57:23.600 --> 57:24.600]  Right.
[57:24.600 --> 57:25.600]  Or all of them.
[57:25.600 --> 57:29.600]  OK. Now, can I get them for fraud by nondisclosure?
[57:29.600 --> 57:36.600]  Because they told me that sometimes they pay late, but they didn't tell me about all the other economic problems that they have.
[57:36.600 --> 57:42.600]  That's a claim you can make, but that's only a cause of action.
[57:42.600 --> 57:47.600]  Yeah, I don't see that one getting so much traction.
[57:47.600 --> 57:52.600]  An employer and Randy was alluding to this.
[57:52.600 --> 57:54.600]  Ah, hear the music.
[57:54.600 --> 57:57.600]  Annoying music again.
[57:57.600 --> 58:04.600]  If you're hired as an employee, they have a duty to pay you timely.
[58:04.600 --> 58:11.600]  If they if you were hired on a weekly deal, a month is way too long to wait.
[58:11.600 --> 58:14.600]  Yeah. And you're not contract labor.
[58:14.600 --> 58:15.600]  Right.
[58:15.600 --> 58:18.600]  They may want to call you contract labor, but you're not.
[58:18.600 --> 58:19.600]  OK.
[58:19.600 --> 58:23.600]  This is going to give them even more problems and we'll pick up some of that when we get back.
[58:23.600 --> 58:35.600]  This is Randy Kelton with my radio, Johnny, Rosanna, Mike Lewis, Doug, I see you there. We will pick you up and get back from the top of the hour break.
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[58:37.600 --> 58:41.600]  It generally builds up even more toward the end. And that's what it's doing.
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[01:03:25.600 --> 01:03:39.600]  OK, we are back. Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Blue Raw Radio and Rob.
[01:03:39.600 --> 01:03:43.600]  Yeah. Do we have anything else for you?
[01:03:43.600 --> 01:03:49.600]  I don't know if you do or not. I'm done. I just want to see if you have anything else to say about it.
[01:03:49.600 --> 01:04:05.600]  OK, we're going to move on. We've got a raft of callers. OK, thank you for calling. Now we're going to Johnny in Texas. Hello, Johnny. What do you have for us today?
[01:04:05.600 --> 01:04:22.600]  Hey, Randy. I just wanted to see if I could maybe offer a little bit of encouragement to one of your previous callers. I don't remember her name. The lady that filed her case in the state court and then it got removed to Ms. Sabrina.
[01:04:22.600 --> 01:04:40.600]  Yeah. She seemed to be a little bit concerned with a lot of what ifs and getting motions and pleadings overruled and all of that. I had a case in state court. It sounds like she's in the same area that I'm in.
[01:04:40.600 --> 01:04:56.600]  I went through a very long administrative process with some people that were trying to propose on my house, went on for about a year and a half, and it finally got to the point where they made it clear that they were just going to go ahead and propose regardless.
[01:04:56.600 --> 01:05:12.600]  You know, they were just going to take the risk. And I went to file the case in state district court at the very last minute. And when I say last minute, I mean, I was in the clerk's office filing my case while Wells Fargo was out on the courthouse steps auctioning off my property
[01:05:12.600 --> 01:05:32.600]  and got an emergency ex parte temporary restraining order and had a possible go and slap it down in front of the auctioneer for Wells Fargo to stop the sale. And up until that point, I had been in court a number of times as a defendant in their quasi criminal cases.
[01:05:32.600 --> 01:05:44.600]  And I got very good at dealing with that. I've gotten quite a few cases dismissed and basically just, you know, I'm not.
[01:05:44.600 --> 01:05:52.600]  Basically, I don't care about your court and I'm not your subject and I don't have to care about your rules. You don't have jurisdiction. You know, leave me alone.
[01:05:52.600 --> 01:06:04.600]  And when I when I filed my civil case in state district court, that was my first civil case and it was my first time as a plaintiff in anything.
[01:06:04.600 --> 01:06:17.600]  And I realized real quick, oh, crap. You know, I if I come into this court and ask them to take jurisdiction over a matter, maybe it would behoove me to actually start caring about the rules and procedure and all that.
[01:06:17.600 --> 01:06:29.600]  So I made a few mistakes early on and I was flying by the seat of my pants and I was up against a 750 dollar an hour attorney firm.
[01:06:29.600 --> 01:06:34.600]  And, you know, I made a few mistakes in the beginning that were a little bit difficult to overcome.
[01:06:34.600 --> 01:06:46.600]  But all in all, I kept that case tied up in litigation for over two years and they probably spent about two times the value of my house trying to get me out of it.
[01:06:46.600 --> 01:06:54.600]  So just, you know, and she you know, I think she indicated that she'd never been in court on anything before.
[01:06:54.600 --> 01:06:59.600]  And I think she's going to find it's a very boring process. I mean, you file a motion.
[01:06:59.600 --> 01:07:05.600]  And then you've got to get it set for hearing and it may be anywhere from two weeks to over a month before you have a hearing on it.
[01:07:05.600 --> 01:07:10.600]  You're in there 15 minutes and then you're done and then you file your objections or other motions or whatever.
[01:07:10.600 --> 01:07:14.600]  And then it may be another two weeks or, you know, four weeks or six weeks.
[01:07:14.600 --> 01:07:17.600]  And you have a hearing on that and then the other side will file stuff.
[01:07:17.600 --> 01:07:23.600]  And, you know, I just if she if she's still even listening, I would say just don't be concerned about it.
[01:07:23.600 --> 01:07:30.600]  Just in my case, when, you know, everything they come up with, they filed a motion for summary judgment.
[01:07:30.600 --> 01:07:35.600]  I had no clue what that was. Never heard of it before. Went and did a little research, found all the case law on it.
[01:07:35.600 --> 01:07:39.600]  OK, here's how I deal with that. And then they'd file a special exception.
[01:07:39.600 --> 01:07:47.600]  I'd never heard of that before. So I would go and research that and, you know, find all the case law on it and say, oh, here's how I deal with that.
[01:07:47.600 --> 01:07:55.600]  And, you know, like I said, it was even though in the beginning I had no clue what I was doing, had never been a plaintiff in anything,
[01:07:55.600 --> 01:08:03.600]  had never been in a civil case before, flying just totally blind in the beginning and then by the seat of my pants.
[01:08:03.600 --> 01:08:06.600]  You know, I kept them tied up in litigation for over two years.
[01:08:06.600 --> 01:08:13.600]  And then after that, it was another year and a half before they tried again, which I'm dealing with now, as you know.
[01:08:13.600 --> 01:08:18.600]  Anyway, I just I just wanted to tell her, don't be so concerned with all the what ifs and just take it as it comes.
[01:08:18.600 --> 01:08:25.600]  And it's it's not it's not that hard and it's not as fast paced as she seems to think it's going to be.
[01:08:25.600 --> 01:08:30.600]  And I think all in all, she's going to find it's a very actually kind of a boring process.
[01:08:30.600 --> 01:08:43.600]  Johnny, I'd like to add, too, if you don't mind that you're absolutely right. And I'd like to add that the more you do this, the more you research, the more you learn, the more rabbit holes you go down.
[01:08:43.600 --> 01:08:51.600]  The easier your research gets, you start to learn how to find what you're looking for.
[01:08:51.600 --> 01:08:59.600]  On the way you learn or you should learn how to apply what it is you're looking for once you find it.
[01:08:59.600 --> 01:09:10.600]  Absolutely. And I'd like to I'd like to address that doing this has another benefit.
[01:09:10.600 --> 01:09:17.600]  You get a sense of freedom and security you never had before.
[01:09:17.600 --> 01:09:25.600]  Absolutely. It is very empowering, very empowering. And, you know, to a lot of it is is the fear of the unknown.
[01:09:25.600 --> 01:09:29.600]  And, you know, it's you don't know what's going to happen. You've never been in court before.
[01:09:29.600 --> 01:09:33.600]  You don't know how the procedures are going to go. You don't know how the attorneys are going to act.
[01:09:33.600 --> 01:09:37.600]  And by the time you get to your third or fourth hearing.
[01:09:37.600 --> 01:09:41.600]  You know, it's no longer unknown. So that fear of the unknown goes away.
[01:09:41.600 --> 01:09:47.600]  And like Steve said, you know, the more you study it, it does it kind of grows exponentially.
[01:09:47.600 --> 01:09:55.600]  And when I, you know, when I, for example, going back to the example on summary judgment, when I was studying case law on that,
[01:09:55.600 --> 01:10:00.600]  I came across three or four other things that were interesting to me at the time, but that wasn't really on point.
[01:10:00.600 --> 01:10:03.600]  So I just bookmarked him and said, I'll come back to him later.
[01:10:03.600 --> 01:10:10.600]  And I'll be darned if, you know, before it was over, everything I had bookmarked had come up and I already knew right where it was.
[01:10:10.600 --> 01:10:20.600]  And, and the one thing I would suggest to her is when she's studying case law, you know, from a personal standpoint,
[01:10:20.600 --> 01:10:26.600]  I learn more from looking at losing cases than I do at winning cases.
[01:10:26.600 --> 01:10:32.600]  I want to know exactly how and why they lost that case. That points me to learn.
[01:10:32.600 --> 01:10:40.600]  Yeah. I mean, it's easier to find. I don't know. I just mean, you know, maybe it's just a personal thing,
[01:10:40.600 --> 01:10:46.600]  but for me, I learn a lot more looking at how someone lost the case rather than how they want it.
[01:10:46.600 --> 01:10:54.600]  And I guess it stands to reason that if we are supposed to learn from the mistakes of others and our own,
[01:10:54.600 --> 01:10:58.600]  then we should go look at the mistakes of others.
[01:10:58.600 --> 01:11:04.600]  Well, absolutely. Well, and, you know, Steve, you and I have a mutual friend, Craig, up in Ohio.
[01:11:04.600 --> 01:11:05.600]  Yes.
[01:11:05.600 --> 01:11:10.600]  And he gets so frustrated with me. He tells me, stop arguing the other side's case.
[01:11:10.600 --> 01:11:17.600]  But in doing that, I can pretty well almost every time anticipate what they're, you know,
[01:11:17.600 --> 01:11:22.600]  what they're going to do next and head them off at the pass. And it's from studying the losing cases.
[01:11:22.600 --> 01:11:30.600]  But anyway, I digress. I just wanted to, you know, see if maybe I could offer her a little bit of encouragement.
[01:11:30.600 --> 01:11:34.600]  And I don't it's not going to be such a big, scary process that she seems to think it's going to be.
[01:11:34.600 --> 01:11:39.600]  And as far as what if, you know, all the what ifs, what if they overrule this motion, what if they overrule that?
[01:11:39.600 --> 01:11:42.600]  File another one. You know, keep it keep you.
[01:11:42.600 --> 01:11:46.600]  I mean, if you really want to, you can you can keep it going as long as you want.
[01:11:46.600 --> 01:11:51.600]  I could have kept my case going as long as I wanted. I could have probably kept it going another two years if I wanted.
[01:11:51.600 --> 01:11:56.600]  But then the last year of it, the opposing counsel was crying about that every year.
[01:11:56.600 --> 01:12:02.600]  Your honor, this case has been, you know, in this court for, you know, a year and a year and a half.
[01:12:02.600 --> 01:12:06.600]  And, you know, cried about irrelevant.
[01:12:06.600 --> 01:12:18.600]  But something else that that can help curb that first time jitter is to go in and set and watch a few cases.
[01:12:18.600 --> 01:12:32.600]  That is very important. And what I would do is I would go in, you know, after after the first couple of times I went, when my hearing were over, I would stay another two, three hours and watch the other cases.
[01:12:32.600 --> 01:12:54.600]  The other hearings that came after me and how the attorneys argued their respective sides and, you know, what what things were they doing that were getting sanctioned or what things were they were they doing that, you know, was making the judge turn a deaf ear to what things were they doing that that seemed to get the judge's attention.
[01:12:54.600 --> 01:13:01.600]  I mean, you you're absolutely right. You know, just after you go to your hearing or, you know, all my what process, what process?
[01:13:01.600 --> 01:13:07.600]  What ritual do they go through to get evidence entered onto the record?
[01:13:07.600 --> 01:13:09.600]  Yeah.
[01:13:09.600 --> 01:13:10.600]  Remember that one?
[01:13:10.600 --> 01:13:14.600]  That is very important. You know, I got the jury stuff.
[01:13:14.600 --> 01:13:20.600]  And, you know, Dr. Graves talks about how important it is, you know, to get your evidence then.
[01:13:20.600 --> 01:13:26.600]  And but he doesn't go through the low level stuff.
[01:13:26.600 --> 01:13:35.600]  The, you know, step by step, you have to, you know, you have there is there is a legal ritual.
[01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:52.600]  Yeah, exactly. And it's very easy. But it's something that if you don't know, I mean, I spent the first six months of my case saying, Your Honor, and I literally I had this huge about a probably three foot by three foot box full of documents.
[01:13:52.600 --> 01:13:56.600]  And I'm standing there saying, Your Honor, I have all this evidence if you want to see it.
[01:13:56.600 --> 01:14:02.600]  And, you know, I have this that says that and this that says that and and they weren't interested in seeing it.
[01:14:02.600 --> 01:14:07.600]  And I couldn't understand why. And the other side's moving for summary judgment because I haven't presented any evidence.
[01:14:07.600 --> 01:14:10.600]  And I'm saying, yes, I have. In this hearing, I said I had this.
[01:14:10.600 --> 01:14:14.600]  Well, what I was missing is you have to tell the judge I have this piece of evidence.
[01:14:14.600 --> 01:14:17.600]  Here's what it is. Here's what I intend to prove with it.
[01:14:17.600 --> 01:14:22.600]  I'm giving the other side a copy of it. And I would like to have it marked for exhibit purposes.
[01:14:22.600 --> 01:14:26.600]  And then after you go through all of that, then you offer them into evidence.
[01:14:26.600 --> 01:14:35.600]  The other side has an opportunity to object. And if you can get it, get your evidence and over the other guy's objection, then it becomes admitted as evidence.
[01:14:35.600 --> 01:14:39.600]  And it's only at that point that the court can even pretend that it exists.
[01:14:39.600 --> 01:14:48.600]  Now they can see it. Aha. It's appeared. It's on the record. Now I can take it now. All right. Let's look at your evidence.
[01:14:48.600 --> 01:14:52.600]  Exactly. So it magically appeared.
[01:14:52.600 --> 01:15:03.600]  Exactly. And those are those are simple things that, you know, I've never I have never come across any documentation on the Web, even in jurisdiction area.
[01:15:03.600 --> 01:15:10.600]  I haven't seen anybody actually describe that low level fine grained stuff, even as simple as it is.
[01:15:10.600 --> 01:15:18.600]  They don't explain it. I think it's a very common mistake that people think that, well, I've got exhibit A, exhibit B, exhibit C.
[01:15:18.600 --> 01:15:24.600]  OK, now I'm entering since I've got this in my motion and I've filed my motion with the court.
[01:15:24.600 --> 01:15:28.600]  Now I have evidence on the record. No, you don't. You have a motion on the record.
[01:15:28.600 --> 01:15:35.600]  You still got to admit your evidence on the record of evidence as evidence.
[01:15:35.600 --> 01:15:40.600]  Exactly right. And so those those types of things.
[01:15:40.600 --> 01:15:48.600]  And that's just one example. But there are a lot of low level fine grained things that you need to know.
[01:15:48.600 --> 01:15:54.600]  And they are extremely simple. But you're not going to find them anywhere except sitting there and watching.
[01:15:54.600 --> 01:16:04.600]  You know, either go all my hearings, just about every one of my hearings during that two plus year period all happened to be first thing in the morning.
[01:16:04.600 --> 01:16:13.600]  So I had to stay afterwards and watch the attorneys. But, you know, if you have afternoon hearings or whatever, go in a couple hours early or, you know, otherwise stay a couple hours after and just watch.
[01:16:13.600 --> 01:16:22.600]  And you'll be amazed at how much you learn just from that. And you'll learn, you know, as simple as they are, they are still incredibly important.
[01:16:22.600 --> 01:16:29.600]  And that's the only place you're going to learn it is by sitting there and watching it. So you're absolutely right about that.
[01:16:29.600 --> 01:16:34.600]  You've got to watch a dancer dance if you expect to be able to put your feet in their footsteps.
[01:16:34.600 --> 01:16:40.600]  Yep. Yep. That's right. So I hope she's still listening and I hope she can get some encouragement from that.
[01:16:40.600 --> 01:16:44.600]  I know you got a lot of callers, so I'm going to drop off and look at that.
[01:16:44.600 --> 01:16:47.600]  Thank you, Johnny. OK. Thank you, Johnny.
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[01:20:22.600 --> 01:20:30.600]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rooda Bar Radio, and we're going to Rosanna in Ohio.
[01:20:30.600 --> 01:20:32.600]  Hello, Ms. Rosanna.
[01:20:32.600 --> 01:20:34.600]  Hi, Randy.
[01:20:34.600 --> 01:20:37.600]  Hello, what do you have for us today?
[01:20:37.600 --> 01:20:41.600]  Well, I'm calling in here.
[01:20:41.600 --> 01:20:45.600]  Well, I've got the last guy topped. I've been in mine in six years.
[01:20:45.600 --> 01:20:48.600]  I've kept mine going for six years.
[01:20:48.600 --> 01:20:51.600]  Good for you. In court? How long?
[01:20:51.600 --> 01:20:55.600]  Not really. I would trade my story for anybody's I hear.
[01:20:55.600 --> 01:21:02.600]  This started with my mother's murder and my dad was mentally impaired and I've been in a probate.
[01:21:02.600 --> 01:21:09.600]  I've talked with you before in probate trying to get guardianship of my father because she was his caretaker.
[01:21:09.600 --> 01:21:16.600]  And the court just hung with the suspect of my mother's death and abuser of my father like nobody's business.
[01:21:16.600 --> 01:21:20.600]  Because they knew that's where the money would be made.
[01:21:20.600 --> 01:21:24.600]  I've had five cases killed before the Ohio Supreme Court.
[01:21:24.600 --> 01:21:32.600]  And the first one I won because I had to file a public records writ against the judge because he was holding public records.
[01:21:32.600 --> 01:21:38.600]  And after that, since I won, it was downhill for me because you know they're not going to take that.
[01:21:38.600 --> 01:21:47.600]  And anyway, my dad has recently, last September, my brother was finally arrested, taken out of the home.
[01:21:47.600 --> 01:21:51.600]  My dad was taken out of the home. He's in a nursing home trying to kill himself.
[01:21:51.600 --> 01:21:54.600]  He's got him chemically restrained.
[01:21:54.600 --> 01:22:00.600]  And I reopened my guardianship for an emergency when my brother was arrested in September.
[01:22:00.600 --> 01:22:08.600]  Of course, they turned around and gave it to the lawyer who has known about all this abuse, the fraud, everything.
[01:22:08.600 --> 01:22:13.600]  And I'm still fighting to get my father out of the nursing home.
[01:22:13.600 --> 01:22:19.600]  I found fraud. I found letters that the lawyer's guardian lied him to has written.
[01:22:19.600 --> 01:22:23.600]  They were talking about this inventory being wrong. I have letters with their signatures on it now.
[01:22:23.600 --> 01:22:29.600]  They were writing to financial institutions, so I have proof that they absolutely knew this inventory was wrong.
[01:22:29.600 --> 01:22:32.600]  Have you went after them criminally?
[01:22:32.600 --> 01:22:36.600]  When we talked last, you said, do I really believe that's an absolutely...
[01:22:36.600 --> 01:22:39.600]  There's $205,000 missing out of my parents' estate.
[01:22:39.600 --> 01:22:44.600]  $250,000, a quarter of a million. They'll take the other half, the other quarter million.
[01:22:44.600 --> 01:22:49.600]  You told me to file a criminal complaint. What I've done, here's what I've done.
[01:22:49.600 --> 01:22:55.600]  I mean, all of this is a process, and you still have a life to try to live and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[01:22:55.600 --> 01:22:58.600]  I'm tired. I'm really tired.
[01:22:58.600 --> 01:23:02.600]  What I did was, and I just sent an email to you, okay?
[01:23:02.600 --> 01:23:06.600]  Yesterday, I filed, we talked about this last week, it was a book.
[01:23:06.600 --> 01:23:13.600]  I filed an affidavit of disqualification on the second judge because he's ignored everything I put in.
[01:23:13.600 --> 01:23:18.600]  You'll see all this in my affidavit in my motion to reopen my first guardianship.
[01:23:18.600 --> 01:23:22.600]  He's refused me a restraining order to keep that fansular lawyer out of the house.
[01:23:22.600 --> 01:23:28.600]  He's went in there and thrown evidence away to link my brother, my brother's a suspect of my mother's death.
[01:23:28.600 --> 01:23:32.600]  He went in there and threw a scutting everything, throwing it all away.
[01:23:32.600 --> 01:23:40.600]  Unbelievable, just unbelievable this judge could sit on my restraining order to keep him out until we could take inventory.
[01:23:40.600 --> 01:23:47.600]  I wonder if there was any exculpatory evidence that was tampered with.
[01:23:47.600 --> 01:23:54.600]  Oh, the house is loaded with, my brother tape records everybody and everything.
[01:23:54.600 --> 01:23:59.600]  My son didn't walk around without a tape recorder on him because my dad's mentally impaired.
[01:23:59.600 --> 01:24:05.600]  And you got to see the transcripts I got in the house after my brother was arrested in September.
[01:24:05.600 --> 01:24:14.600]  It was, once you see the photos, you'll see them in my affidavit to disqualify. I've got pictures of the house, the hoarding, the cat shit my fell father was living in.
[01:24:14.600 --> 01:24:20.600]  It's, it's, I mean, I don't know.
[01:24:20.600 --> 01:24:28.600]  Okay, you sound very frustrated. You sound tired, burned out.
[01:24:28.600 --> 01:24:33.600]  What is it you are trying to accomplish at the moment?
[01:24:33.600 --> 01:24:44.600]  Last week, on the 22nd, I filed a motion to reopen my, I don't know if it's ever been done, to reopen my first guardianship with all the fraud in that case.
[01:24:44.600 --> 01:24:51.600]  I can prove that the internal medicine doctor has now had my father on psychotropic drugs all this six years.
[01:24:51.600 --> 01:24:59.600]  I now have, one of the pieces of evidence is in there. It's from a hospital, he's on VSPAR, that's a psychotropic drug.
[01:24:59.600 --> 01:25:06.600]  Okay, you're talking about things that are absolutely criminal.
[01:25:06.600 --> 01:25:09.600]  Yes, but once you see my reopening motion.
[01:25:09.600 --> 01:25:16.600]  Wait a minute, wait a minute, you have, if you have knowledge that a crime's been committed, you have a duty to report that crime. Have you done that?
[01:25:16.600 --> 01:25:19.600]  The prosecutor won't take it, he won't touch it.
[01:25:19.600 --> 01:25:23.600]  Okay, we don't care about that.
[01:25:23.600 --> 01:25:29.600]  Okay, when I file a criminal complaint, I hope the prosecutor doesn't take it.
[01:25:29.600 --> 01:25:32.600]  Then I get the hammer of the prosecutor.
[01:25:32.600 --> 01:25:39.600]  I know, I know, and here's what I was going to do. When you see my affidavit of disqualification I just put in the Supreme Court yesterday.
[01:25:39.600 --> 01:25:49.600]  What I did was, and I thought was kind of smart, I reopened the first guardianship case because of all the criminal activity now that was going on in it.
[01:25:49.600 --> 01:25:57.600]  I incorporated it into the affidavit of disqualification of the exhibit. It was kind of really neat that way, I thought.
[01:25:57.600 --> 01:26:01.600]  That puts it in the public record where it never goes away.
[01:26:01.600 --> 01:26:06.600]  Uh-huh. It will be, right.
[01:26:06.600 --> 01:26:10.600]  Nice move. Yeah, nice touch.
[01:26:10.600 --> 01:26:22.600]  Anytime you have this much fraud, your only real option is to start filing criminal charges. Do you have grand juries in Ohio?
[01:26:22.600 --> 01:26:26.600]  Well, yeah, in our counties, if you can get to them.
[01:26:26.600 --> 01:26:27.600]  Okay.
[01:26:27.600 --> 01:26:28.600]  That goes.
[01:26:28.600 --> 01:26:40.600]  When you went to them, you don't stop. There's a procedure to follow. You file with the prosecutor. When he refuses to act, you file with the next guy above him and just walk your way up.
[01:26:40.600 --> 01:26:48.600]  Involve everybody in an issue that they don't have anything to do with.
[01:26:48.600 --> 01:26:49.600]  Uh-huh.
[01:26:49.600 --> 01:27:02.600]  They get stuck to this tar baby, and when these judges have higher level judges breathing down their throats, that has a tendency to change their perspective.
[01:27:02.600 --> 01:27:12.600]  They apparently feel as though there is no remedy for you, that they can do anything they want to without having to worry about any kind of retribution.
[01:27:12.600 --> 01:27:14.600]  Right.
[01:27:14.600 --> 01:27:17.600]  You need to bring them some retribution.
[01:27:17.600 --> 01:27:25.600]  Well, what I was going to do was that motion to reopen my guardianship where I listed all the $2900 of 2900 code.
[01:27:25.600 --> 01:27:31.600]  I listed a lot of 2900 criminal codes in my motion to reopen, and then I had an affidavit of facts with it.
[01:27:31.600 --> 01:27:33.600]  And I put some of the evidence.
[01:27:33.600 --> 01:27:37.600]  And then that's incorporated in my affidavit of disqualification.
[01:27:37.600 --> 01:27:45.600]  And what I was going to do is sit down and fill out these forms for a criminal complaint because they're on a high up criminal rules of procedure.
[01:27:45.600 --> 01:27:55.600]  I'm going to fill those out, put the names of the people down there with the criminal codes with them, then send that with the motion to the prosecutor and say, look, I've got proof of this.
[01:27:55.600 --> 01:27:57.600]  Now, you need to file this.
[01:27:57.600 --> 01:27:58.600]  Okay, wait a minute.
[01:27:58.600 --> 01:28:00.600]  Are you kidding me?
[01:28:00.600 --> 01:28:07.600]  Do you really think a prosecutor is going to try to prosecute a judge or other lawyers?
[01:28:07.600 --> 01:28:09.600]  No, but that's what we do.
[01:28:09.600 --> 01:28:10.600]  Never.
[01:28:10.600 --> 01:28:12.600]  Send it to the grand jury.
[01:28:12.600 --> 01:28:15.600]  You're saying bypass the prosecutor altogether?
[01:28:15.600 --> 01:28:16.600]  Absolutely.
[01:28:16.600 --> 01:28:20.600]  Okay, you won't bypass the prosecutor.
[01:28:20.600 --> 01:28:27.600]  If you send it to the foreman of the grand jury, the prosecutor will intercept it.
[01:28:27.600 --> 01:28:32.600]  Then you file mail fraud against the prosecutor.
[01:28:32.600 --> 01:28:34.600]  So put it through the mail, as you're saying.
[01:28:34.600 --> 01:28:35.600]  Oh, always mail.
[01:28:35.600 --> 01:28:38.600]  Never go down there if you can avoid it.
[01:28:38.600 --> 01:28:39.600]  Okay.
[01:28:39.600 --> 01:28:46.600]  And if they want you to come down there and meet with them, say absolutely not.
[01:28:46.600 --> 01:28:54.600]  You meet with me in a neutral location and take two recorders with you.
[01:28:54.600 --> 01:28:57.600]  This is my favorite dirty trick.
[01:28:57.600 --> 01:29:07.600]  Put the first recorder on the table in front of them, and when they ask you to turn it off, tell them, sure, no problem.
[01:29:07.600 --> 01:29:15.600]  If they don't ask you to turn the second one off, if they don't ask you if you have a second one, too bad.
[01:29:15.600 --> 01:29:25.600]  Once they get you to turn the recorder off, they'll feel more comfortable of talking freely, and they're more likely to say something really stupid.
[01:29:25.600 --> 01:29:38.600]  We had a guy from New York play us the recording of the police officers trying to figure out how to erase the recording on the first device in the table.
[01:29:38.600 --> 01:29:39.600]  Sweet.
[01:29:39.600 --> 01:29:40.600]  Okay.
[01:29:40.600 --> 01:29:41.600]  Hey, hang on.
[01:29:41.600 --> 01:29:46.600]  When we come back, I'll go into a little more detail of how to go after these guys.
[01:29:46.600 --> 01:29:49.600]  This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Roo of Our Radio.
[01:29:49.600 --> 01:30:00.600]  Our call-in number, 512-646-1984. We'll be right back.
[01:30:00.600 --> 01:30:02.600]  Foot-in-mouth syndrome. We've all been there.
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[01:30:43.600 --> 01:30:47.600]  In social situations, there are some things you should never say.
[01:30:47.600 --> 01:30:48.600]  These top my list.
[01:30:48.600 --> 01:30:50.600]  When is the baby due?
[01:30:50.600 --> 01:30:54.600]  Never say this to a woman. Imagine the embarrassment if she simply gained a few pounds.
[01:30:54.600 --> 01:30:57.600]  Don't talk baby unless she brings it up.
[01:30:57.600 --> 01:31:02.600]  You look good for your age, or you look great after losing all that weight are indirect insults.
[01:31:02.600 --> 01:31:06.600]  Instead, just say, you look terrific. What's your secret?
[01:31:06.600 --> 01:31:10.600]  Finally, no matter how bad someone looks, never say, you look awful.
[01:31:10.600 --> 01:31:12.600]  That'll just make the person feel worse.
[01:31:12.600 --> 01:31:14.600]  Instead, say, how are things going?
[01:31:14.600 --> 01:31:16.600]  If they want to talk, that'll open the door.
[01:31:16.600 --> 01:31:19.600]  And those are today's tips for taming your tongue.
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[01:33:00.600 --> 01:33:11.600]  You are listening to the Logos Radio Network. LogosRadioNetwork.com
[01:33:30.600 --> 01:33:44.600]  Okay, we are back with the Randy, Kelton, and Deborah Stevens.
[01:33:44.600 --> 01:33:48.600]  We're here with my radio and we're talking to Rosanna in Ohio.
[01:33:48.600 --> 01:33:55.600]  And this is just a routine. Once you get it down, you'll really like it.
[01:33:55.600 --> 01:34:04.600]  Best if they never see you, because then you're an unknown quantity. They don't know what they're dealing with.
[01:34:04.600 --> 01:34:08.600]  If they see you, they'll feel like they can take your measure.
[01:34:08.600 --> 01:34:13.600]  If they never see you, then you're just sharpshooting them from a distance.
[01:34:13.600 --> 01:34:23.600]  And so you send a set of complaints to the grand jury, send it to the foreman of the grand jury, registered restricted.
[01:34:23.600 --> 01:34:26.600]  That means only he can sign for it.
[01:34:26.600 --> 01:34:32.600]  But the prosecutor's office will sign for it anyway. They won't even pay any attention to that.
[01:34:32.600 --> 01:34:40.600]  And then the prosecutor will send you a letter back saying you examined into your accusations and decided to take no action.
[01:34:40.600 --> 01:34:54.600]  Then you send a complaint to the postal inspectors claiming you sent this registered restricted and these other people intercepted this mail
[01:34:54.600 --> 01:34:58.600]  and secreted it from the person it was directed to.
[01:34:58.600 --> 01:35:10.600]  And then in the state, you can file a tamper with the government document against the prosecutor for secreting the government document,
[01:35:10.600 --> 01:35:17.600]  because your complaint becomes a government document, from the person or department it's addressed to.
[01:35:17.600 --> 01:35:30.600]  And if you have a statute like we have in Texas, Article 2.03, that gives the prosecutor a duty when he's made known that a public official is violating law,
[01:35:30.600 --> 01:35:34.600]  to give the complaint to the grand jury, you can charge him with that one.
[01:35:34.600 --> 01:35:39.600]  If you don't, you can charge him with official misconduct.
[01:35:39.600 --> 01:35:49.600]  And claim that the prosecutor, while he has been granted a certain amount of prosecutorial discretion,
[01:35:49.600 --> 01:35:54.600]  in this case he did not exercise discretion.
[01:35:54.600 --> 01:36:06.600]  He decided who he, you know, he didn't determine if there was sufficient evidence to give a reasonable person of ordinary prudence cause to believe that a crime had been committed
[01:36:06.600 --> 01:36:14.600]  and this person had committed a crime, he determined who he wanted to prosecute and who he did not want to prosecute,
[01:36:14.600 --> 01:36:19.600]  and that's prosecutorial caprice, and that is not an authority that he has.
[01:36:19.600 --> 01:36:23.600]  So charge him with official misconduct with that, send that to the grand jury.
[01:36:23.600 --> 01:36:29.600]  And the prosecutor is going to intercept this one, and when he opens it, he's going to say,
[01:36:29.600 --> 01:36:39.600]  that rascal set me up for this, yeah we did Bubba, it's about knowing what they're going to do.
[01:36:39.600 --> 01:36:44.600]  So we know they're not going to do the right thing, at least we hope they don't, this way we get to hammer them.
[01:36:44.600 --> 01:36:56.600]  So after you don't get a response to the second one, then you look at how does the legal hierarchy stack up in Ohio.
[01:36:56.600 --> 01:37:07.600]  Because you want to find the highest level political official you can and kick him right in his professional pants.
[01:37:07.600 --> 01:37:18.600]  Here in Texas, when it's a complaint against a public official, the state attorney general has concurrent jurisdiction with the prosecutor.
[01:37:18.600 --> 01:37:24.600]  So we send the criminal complaint against the prosecutor to the attorney general.
[01:37:24.600 --> 01:37:28.600]  And he's going to refuse to prosecute.
[01:37:28.600 --> 01:37:35.600]  And then we send another complaint back to the grand jury against the attorney general,
[01:37:35.600 --> 01:37:42.600]  for not prosecuting the prosecutor, for secreting complaints from the grand jury.
[01:37:42.600 --> 01:37:49.600]  And when the prosecutor opens this, he's going to say, this is getting out of hand here.
[01:37:49.600 --> 01:37:58.600]  And if he sends anybody out to talk to you, you know if he tries to call you into his office, don't go.
[01:37:58.600 --> 01:38:05.600]  You go to his office and they can make up any story they want to.
[01:38:05.600 --> 01:38:09.600]  And they will do that.
[01:38:09.600 --> 01:38:14.600]  Test of lying has been raised to an art form.
[01:38:14.600 --> 01:38:22.600]  So don't go there. If you want to meet with me, you come meet with me in a neutral place. I am not going in there.
[01:38:22.600 --> 01:38:27.600]  And then what they're likely to do is send an investigator out to talk to you.
[01:38:27.600 --> 01:38:33.600]  And the investigator is not there to investigate into the accusation. He's there to convince you not to pursue.
[01:38:33.600 --> 01:38:36.600]  Yeah, find something on me.
[01:38:36.600 --> 01:38:41.600]  Okay, keep in mind, he has a pistol on his hip.
[01:38:41.600 --> 01:38:50.600]  So when he gives you this sage advice and tells you how much trouble you can get in for filing false complaints,
[01:38:50.600 --> 01:38:55.600]  that gets a 911 call.
[01:38:55.600 --> 01:39:02.600]  The last time two investigators from the district attorney's office threw me out of the Parker County courthouse,
[01:39:02.600 --> 01:39:08.600]  while they're throwing me out, I'm dialing 911.
[01:39:08.600 --> 01:39:13.600]  That's great fun. You haven't lived until you call the police on the police.
[01:39:13.600 --> 01:39:14.600]  Yeah.
[01:39:14.600 --> 01:39:20.600]  It puts them in such an impossible position.
[01:39:20.600 --> 01:39:25.600]  That's once you've done that once, they don't want anything to do with you.
[01:39:25.600 --> 01:39:28.600]  You don't have to worry about the police arresting you.
[01:39:28.600 --> 01:39:31.600]  I'd like to get to that point.
[01:39:31.600 --> 01:39:33.600]  Yeah, that's easy.
[01:39:33.600 --> 01:39:38.600]  You file against the attorney general?
[01:39:38.600 --> 01:39:44.600]  I've been to every agency at the state level. I've been trying to get to the FBI because of mom's death.
[01:39:44.600 --> 01:39:47.600]  Okay, okay. Here's my suggestion.
[01:39:47.600 --> 01:39:51.600]  Take your hat out of your hand.
[01:39:51.600 --> 01:39:53.600]  Put it back on your head.
[01:39:53.600 --> 01:39:56.600]  You're not there to curry favor.
[01:39:56.600 --> 01:40:01.600]  You are the sovereign and they are not to forget it.
[01:40:01.600 --> 01:40:09.600]  Never ask an official to do something unless the law requires him to do it.
[01:40:09.600 --> 01:40:17.600]  And when he doesn't do it, best you have your complaint already made up.
[01:40:17.600 --> 01:40:22.600]  We call this our tar baby scenario.
[01:40:22.600 --> 01:40:24.600]  I got this little tar baby.
[01:40:24.600 --> 01:40:26.600]  You want to touch it?
[01:40:26.600 --> 01:40:28.600]  Go ahead. Here, touch it.
[01:40:28.600 --> 01:40:31.600]  Go ahead. Don't do what you're supposed to.
[01:40:31.600 --> 01:40:34.600]  And you stick to my tar baby.
[01:40:34.600 --> 01:40:37.600]  I come in here asking you to arrest the prosecuting attorney.
[01:40:37.600 --> 01:40:39.600]  Oh, you don't want to do your job?
[01:40:39.600 --> 01:40:43.600]  My favorite thing to tell a bailiff when I ask him to arrest a judge.
[01:40:43.600 --> 01:40:46.600]  And he says, well, I'm not going to arrest a judge.
[01:40:46.600 --> 01:40:50.600]  Well, Bubba, life is filled with little decisions.
[01:40:50.600 --> 01:40:52.600]  We all get to make some.
[01:40:52.600 --> 01:40:54.600]  Your turn.
[01:40:54.600 --> 01:40:59.600]  Are you going to keep the peace in the courtroom regardless of who breaches it?
[01:40:59.600 --> 01:41:06.600]  Or are you going to shield this judge from prosecution in violation of 3805 Penal Code?
[01:41:06.600 --> 01:41:08.600]  It's your call.
[01:41:08.600 --> 01:41:10.600]  But be careful.
[01:41:10.600 --> 01:41:13.600]  This could be a career decision.
[01:41:13.600 --> 01:41:14.600]  Right.
[01:41:14.600 --> 01:41:18.600]  Well, the first judge that was in all of this mess for three years,
[01:41:18.600 --> 01:41:25.600]  the one I had to file a writ of public, writ of mandamus against for the public records he was holding,
[01:41:25.600 --> 01:41:32.600]  I found out last year in Ohio, ORC 2.23, all the judges have to get their O's,
[01:41:32.600 --> 01:41:37.600]  their certificate of O's to the clerk of their courts within 20 days of taking office.
[01:41:37.600 --> 01:41:38.600]  It's very specific.
[01:41:38.600 --> 01:41:40.600]  You get it there within 20 days.
[01:41:40.600 --> 01:41:42.600]  The Supreme Court keeps repeating it.
[01:41:42.600 --> 01:41:44.600]  Everybody keeps repeating it.
[01:41:44.600 --> 01:41:46.600]  Get it there within 20 days.
[01:41:46.600 --> 01:41:49.600]  Well, I found out she doesn't have his O's.
[01:41:49.600 --> 01:41:51.600]  She didn't have his O's last year.
[01:41:51.600 --> 01:41:56.600]  Oh, have you moved to void all her judgments?
[01:41:56.600 --> 01:41:59.600]  Okay, here's what it says.
[01:41:59.600 --> 01:42:04.600]  If the judge doesn't transmit his O's to the clerk of courts within 20 days,
[01:42:04.600 --> 01:42:08.600]  that means he is deemed to have refused his office and is considered vacant.
[01:42:08.600 --> 01:42:10.600]  Those are the exact words in the statute.
[01:42:10.600 --> 01:42:12.600]  I know them by heart.
[01:42:12.600 --> 01:42:15.600]  Move to void judgment.
[01:42:15.600 --> 01:42:16.600]  Huh?
[01:42:16.600 --> 01:42:22.600]  Move to void judgment and file criminally against the judge for impersonating a public official.
[01:42:22.600 --> 01:42:26.600]  Well, that's part of my Motion 60B along with all those other evidence that I have.
[01:42:26.600 --> 01:42:30.600]  Motion's not a complaint.
[01:42:30.600 --> 01:42:31.600]  That won't help.
[01:42:31.600 --> 01:42:32.600]  No.
[01:42:32.600 --> 01:42:33.600]  That's part of my...
[01:42:33.600 --> 01:42:38.600]  When I reopened my guardianship, I put it with the Motion 60B for new evidence.
[01:42:38.600 --> 01:42:40.600]  It is new evidence.
[01:42:40.600 --> 01:42:46.600]  They control everything in civil.
[01:42:46.600 --> 01:42:49.600]  They don't control the grand jury.
[01:42:49.600 --> 01:42:51.600]  You need something out of their control.
[01:42:51.600 --> 01:42:52.600]  Right.
[01:42:52.600 --> 01:42:55.600]  That's what you're saying on the criminal side.
[01:42:55.600 --> 01:42:58.600]  Yeah, they don't control that.
[01:42:58.600 --> 01:43:02.600]  That's like a loose cannon out there.
[01:43:02.600 --> 01:43:08.600]  When I go in and file criminal charges against a public official,
[01:43:08.600 --> 01:43:12.600]  they think, ah, they're not going to get that done.
[01:43:12.600 --> 01:43:16.600]  But what if they did?
[01:43:16.600 --> 01:43:20.600]  The public official's career is over.
[01:43:20.600 --> 01:43:23.600]  He's history.
[01:43:23.600 --> 01:43:28.600]  So you can file complaints and not get them acted on all you want to.
[01:43:28.600 --> 01:43:31.600]  You only got to get one.
[01:43:31.600 --> 01:43:38.600]  Well, this is my Motion 60, I mean, I'm sorry, my reopened guardianship is lined up with the criminal code
[01:43:38.600 --> 01:43:41.600]  so I can pick them right out of there and fill out the form.
[01:43:41.600 --> 01:43:42.600]  Okay.
[01:43:42.600 --> 01:43:43.600]  Okay, do that.
[01:43:43.600 --> 01:43:45.600]  I really have to move ahead.
[01:43:45.600 --> 01:43:50.600]  We've got about four or five calls and only a couple of segments left.
[01:43:50.600 --> 01:43:53.600]  We'll finish this up on the other side, but I need to move kind of quickly.
[01:43:53.600 --> 01:43:59.600]  You'll be right back.
[01:43:59.600 --> 01:44:05.600]  It is so enlightening to listen to 90.1 FM, but finding things on the Internet isn't so easy,
[01:44:05.600 --> 01:44:08.600]  and neither is finding like-minded people to share it with.
[01:44:08.600 --> 01:44:11.600]  Oh, well, I guess you haven't heard of Brave New Books, then.
[01:44:11.600 --> 01:44:12.600]  Brave New Books?
[01:44:12.600 --> 01:44:19.600]  Yes, Brave New Books has all the books and DVDs you're looking for by authors like Alex Jones, Ron Paul, and G. Edward Griffin.
[01:44:19.600 --> 01:44:23.600]  They even stock inner food, Berkey products, and Calvin soaps.
[01:44:23.600 --> 01:44:26.600]  There's no way a place like that exists.
[01:44:26.600 --> 01:44:31.600]  Go check it out for yourself. It's downtown at 1904 Guadalupe Street, just south of UT.
[01:44:31.600 --> 01:44:35.600]  Oh, by UT, there's never anywhere to park down there.
[01:44:35.600 --> 01:44:42.600]  Actually, they now offer a free hour of parking for paying customers at the 500 MLK parking facility just behind the bookstore.
[01:44:42.600 --> 01:44:46.600]  It does exist, but when are they open?
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[01:46:21.600 --> 01:46:44.600]  Okay, we are back, Miranda Kelton and Deborah Stevens here with Steve Skidmore.
[01:46:44.600 --> 01:46:47.600]  We're talking to Rosanna in Ohio.
[01:46:47.600 --> 01:46:49.600]  We really have to move on.
[01:46:49.600 --> 01:46:58.600]  If you'll call back in next Thursday, I'll do the first part of the show on due process.
[01:46:58.600 --> 01:47:07.600]  This is actually a very structured process.
[01:47:07.600 --> 01:47:15.600]  You do not want these guys to do what you're asking them to do.
[01:47:15.600 --> 01:47:21.600]  If you're asking them to do something you want them to do, you're screwing up.
[01:47:21.600 --> 01:47:26.600]  You want them to refuse to do it.
[01:47:26.600 --> 01:47:31.600]  You're not going to win your case because you have the law and the facts on your side.
[01:47:31.600 --> 01:47:36.600]  You will only win your case if you have the politics on your side.
[01:47:36.600 --> 01:47:40.600]  Here we start generating some politics.
[01:47:40.600 --> 01:47:45.600]  I really need to rescue my dad. He's chemically restrained. You'll see him in the picture.
[01:47:45.600 --> 01:47:48.600]  He's holding onto the counter. He can't even walk around.
[01:47:48.600 --> 01:47:50.600]  This is bad.
[01:47:50.600 --> 01:47:58.600]  Call in Thursday. Call in early Thursday and we will do the whole first half of the show on due process.
[01:47:58.600 --> 01:48:03.600]  Okay, because I was going to ask you since I put in this motion to reopen my guardianship,
[01:48:03.600 --> 01:48:10.600]  now that it's in, I was going to demand a trial by jury with the criminal charges in it.
[01:48:10.600 --> 01:48:12.600]  I was going to demand a trial by jury.
[01:48:12.600 --> 01:48:15.600]  Absolutely. Demand a trial by jury.
[01:48:15.600 --> 01:48:17.600]  That's what I think.
[01:48:17.600 --> 01:48:22.600]  This is likely to get the sympathy of the jury. They're not going to have much sympathy for the crooked lawyers.
[01:48:22.600 --> 01:48:23.600]  No.
[01:48:23.600 --> 01:48:28.600]  Okay, I really need to move ahead. We've got one segment left and about six callers on the line.
[01:48:28.600 --> 01:48:33.600]  Okay, and if you can look at the email, I would appreciate it. It would help a lot.
[01:48:33.600 --> 01:48:35.600]  Okay, I'll try to look at it in the morning.
[01:48:35.600 --> 01:48:37.600]  Okay, thank you, Randy.
[01:48:37.600 --> 01:48:45.600]  Okay, thank you for calling. Now we're going to go to Mike in Texas.
[01:48:45.600 --> 01:48:48.600]  Hello, Mike. What are you up to now?
[01:48:48.600 --> 01:48:55.600]  Hey, Randy. Well, I had a little bit of interesting things that happened with the federal court today for this week.
[01:48:55.600 --> 01:49:00.600]  Did Judge Sparks send you a birthday card?
[01:49:00.600 --> 01:49:04.600]  He did. They were in the form of verified criminal affidavits.
[01:49:04.600 --> 01:49:15.600]  I filed into the docket that he decided that he didn't even want to look at them, so he sent them back to me.
[01:49:15.600 --> 01:49:21.600]  And I also have a letter from the county attorney.
[01:49:21.600 --> 01:49:35.600]  I guess they're asking me to please go take my petition for claim of relief to the county commissioner's court.
[01:49:35.600 --> 01:49:39.600]  Okay, claim. You filed it with the county attorney?
[01:49:39.600 --> 01:49:41.600]  No, I mean, they're opposing me.
[01:49:41.600 --> 01:49:44.600]  And the county attorney, I filed in a petition for claim.
[01:49:44.600 --> 01:49:50.600]  They had a court order to produce a document stating exactly what I'm seeking damages for.
[01:49:50.600 --> 01:49:58.600]  And so the county attorney immediately responded saying, you know, go file this in the county commissioner's court.
[01:49:58.600 --> 01:50:02.600]  Yeah, that's the right place to file it.
[01:50:02.600 --> 01:50:07.600]  That's where a claim is filed against any county official.
[01:50:07.600 --> 01:50:10.600]  Okay.
[01:50:10.600 --> 01:50:13.600]  So that was correct.
[01:50:13.600 --> 01:50:22.600]  So have you done anything about Sparks throwing, removing documents from the public record?
[01:50:22.600 --> 01:50:24.600]  I had kind of a tough time this week.
[01:50:24.600 --> 01:50:27.600]  My car didn't, you know, was in the shop.
[01:50:27.600 --> 01:50:31.600]  And so this is actually the first time I've had a chance to do anything.
[01:50:31.600 --> 01:50:40.600]  But what I'm planning on doing is either sending these to, maybe I could do all three of the above, to the attorney general of the United States,
[01:50:40.600 --> 01:50:50.600]  to the attorney general of Texas, and also since he's so fond of secreting them from the court, I was thinking about putting them in the public record.
[01:50:50.600 --> 01:50:53.600]  You can't, wait, what public record?
[01:50:53.600 --> 01:50:56.600]  The Travis County public record.
[01:50:56.600 --> 01:50:57.600]  No, you can't.
[01:50:57.600 --> 01:50:58.600]  Okay.
[01:50:58.600 --> 01:51:01.600]  Yeah, those, you can't file those kind of documents there.
[01:51:01.600 --> 01:51:10.600]  The legislature created the registrar's office, and they stipulated what kind of documents can be filed in there.
[01:51:10.600 --> 01:51:15.600]  There's a lot of misunderstanding about that in the Patriot community.
[01:51:15.600 --> 01:51:16.600]  Okay.
[01:51:16.600 --> 01:51:32.600]  If you look at Texas Probate Code 489, it's about power of attorney, and it stipulates what documents must have a power of attorney.
[01:51:32.600 --> 01:51:40.600]  And that list of documents is the list of the documents that can be filed with the county registrar's office.
[01:51:40.600 --> 01:51:42.600]  Okay.
[01:51:42.600 --> 01:51:45.600]  And it's all about real property.
[01:51:45.600 --> 01:51:54.600]  If you have it filed in a court case as an exhibit, then it's in the public record.
[01:51:54.600 --> 01:51:55.600]  Okay.
[01:51:55.600 --> 01:51:58.600]  We've decided to remove those from the public record.
[01:51:58.600 --> 01:52:09.600]  And so I was going to file a notice of fraud, violation of the First Amendment, you know, able, you know, access to have due process and seek remedy in the courts.
[01:52:09.600 --> 01:52:14.600]  You know, I was also thinking about filing an interlocutory appeal and sending it up.
[01:52:14.600 --> 01:52:16.600]  And also I was thinking about...
[01:52:16.600 --> 01:52:28.600]  That was going to be my next comment, is hit the Fifth Circuit and ask them to order him to put him back.
[01:52:28.600 --> 01:52:29.600]  So...
[01:52:29.600 --> 01:52:30.600]  Let him argue his...
[01:52:30.600 --> 01:52:35.600]  And one of those was a complaint, an accusation against him?
[01:52:35.600 --> 01:52:36.600]  No, not yet.
[01:52:36.600 --> 01:52:38.600]  But that's coming right now.
[01:52:38.600 --> 01:52:44.600]  Now that I've got...I would plan on filing that in, but he beat me to the punch.
[01:52:44.600 --> 01:52:47.600]  He's kicked him out faster than I could.
[01:52:47.600 --> 01:52:48.600]  Okay.
[01:52:48.600 --> 01:52:56.600]  Then charge him with...he's still charging with tampering with the government documents.
[01:52:56.600 --> 01:53:02.600]  And let him show the statutory authority for him to do that.
[01:53:02.600 --> 01:53:06.600]  And absolutely file with the attorney general.
[01:53:06.600 --> 01:53:09.600]  And I was going to file a judicial complaint.
[01:53:09.600 --> 01:53:14.600]  Yeah, just black his eye as much as possible.
[01:53:14.600 --> 01:53:21.600]  We don't want this guy on the Court of Appeals and we certainly don't want him buying a Supreme Court position.
[01:53:21.600 --> 01:53:22.600]  Oh, yeah.
[01:53:22.600 --> 01:53:28.600]  And you may be the guy to end that for him.
[01:53:28.600 --> 01:53:29.600]  Okay.
[01:53:29.600 --> 01:53:31.600]  We don't have much time.
[01:53:31.600 --> 01:53:33.600]  Do you have anything else for us?
[01:53:33.600 --> 01:53:34.600]  That's pretty much it.
[01:53:34.600 --> 01:53:36.600]  That's all the news for this week.
[01:53:36.600 --> 01:53:37.600]  Okay.
[01:53:37.600 --> 01:53:38.600]  Thanks a lot, Mike.
[01:53:38.600 --> 01:53:39.600]  Keep after him.
[01:53:39.600 --> 01:53:40.600]  Oh, thanks.
[01:53:40.600 --> 01:53:41.600]  Okay.
[01:53:41.600 --> 01:53:42.600]  Bye-bye.
[01:53:42.600 --> 01:53:54.600]  You know, Randy, I think with everything going on with Ken Anderson out here, I think a lot of judges around here should be a little bit nervous about what's...about some of the decisions they're making at the bench.
[01:53:54.600 --> 01:53:56.600]  Ken Anderson.
[01:53:56.600 --> 01:53:58.600]  Oh, no, the guy that...
[01:53:58.600 --> 01:54:01.600]  In that murder case, yeah.
[01:54:01.600 --> 01:54:02.600]  Yeah.
[01:54:02.600 --> 01:54:06.600]  That was in prison for like 19 years.
[01:54:06.600 --> 01:54:08.600]  Yeah, Morton.
[01:54:08.600 --> 01:54:13.600]  And it turned out that he was not guilty and the prosecutor...
[01:54:13.600 --> 01:54:14.600]  Right, yeah.
[01:54:14.600 --> 01:54:15.600] ...had suppressed him.
[01:54:15.600 --> 01:54:18.600]  Anderson was suppressing mixed-sculpatory evidence.
[01:54:18.600 --> 01:54:21.600]  That's one of the reasons I brought that up earlier.
[01:54:21.600 --> 01:54:22.600]  Yeah.
[01:54:22.600 --> 01:54:24.600]  This guy could wind up in jail yet.
[01:54:24.600 --> 01:54:25.600]  Yeah.
[01:54:25.600 --> 01:54:26.600]  The prosecutor.
[01:54:26.600 --> 01:54:28.600]  That would be great.
[01:54:28.600 --> 01:54:31.600]  That would get everybody looking over their shoulder.
[01:54:31.600 --> 01:54:32.600]  Yes.
[01:54:32.600 --> 01:54:34.600]  And that's how we want them.
[01:54:34.600 --> 01:54:49.600]  You know, I keep saying my primary purpose is to place every judge in the country in a position such that when they step up behind the bench and look out across the bar at the gallery, I want them wondering which one...
[01:54:49.600 --> 01:54:50.600]  Yeah.
[01:54:50.600 --> 01:54:59.600] ...which one of those scoundrels out there in the gallery and waiting for me to read the ruling he doesn't like so he can run down and try to get me arrested.
[01:54:59.600 --> 01:55:01.600]  You ruined my career.
[01:55:01.600 --> 01:55:04.600]  Then we'll start getting ourselves some decent rulings.
[01:55:04.600 --> 01:55:08.600]  Okay, I'm going to go to Lewis in Texas.
[01:55:08.600 --> 01:55:09.600]  Hello, Lewis.
[01:55:09.600 --> 01:55:11.600]  What do you have for us today?
[01:55:11.600 --> 01:55:12.600]  Hey, Randy.
[01:55:12.600 --> 01:55:14.600]  I really love your show.
[01:55:14.600 --> 01:55:27.600]  I'll make this real quick, as quickly as I can shrink it down to in maybe 1977, 76, somewhere in there.
[01:55:27.600 --> 01:55:34.600]  I was living in McNeil Island at the penitentiary there, the federal penitentiary.
[01:55:34.600 --> 01:55:46.600]  And one day Marshall people showed up, Clinton people's the famous one, and he put me in chains and we started driving back towards Texas.
[01:55:46.600 --> 01:55:51.600]  And I had the detainers in Texas, and I told them I didn't want to go into Texas.
[01:55:51.600 --> 01:55:53.600]  She dropped me into Mexico.
[01:55:53.600 --> 01:55:56.600]  I got a writ to get in front of a federal judge.
[01:55:56.600 --> 01:56:09.600]  The day before I was supposed to go in front of the federal judge, I was taken back and he came and picked me up and dropped me off at Dallas County Jail.
[01:56:09.600 --> 01:56:14.600]  At the time, Texas had a speedy trial act.
[01:56:14.600 --> 01:56:22.600]  You had to come to trial within 180 days, and there was no prosecutor nor the defense attorney could ask for more time.
[01:56:22.600 --> 01:56:26.600]  They've changed it since then, but at that time that was the law.
[01:56:26.600 --> 01:56:32.600]  And they waited way past 180 days and came to me.
[01:56:32.600 --> 01:56:37.600]  They were asking life imprisonment is what the prosecutor said, I won't give you life.
[01:56:37.600 --> 01:56:40.600]  He told them my mother and myself.
[01:56:40.600 --> 01:56:51.600]  And so they came to me and said, will you waive your, if you'll waive your 180 days under the state statute, we'll reduce the charges, I want to say, to five years or something like that.
[01:56:51.600 --> 01:56:56.600]  So I went ahead and I protested and my attorney said, no, no, no, that they're going to win.
[01:56:56.600 --> 01:57:03.600]  And they said they'll keep you here in the Texas system until your case runs all the way to the Supreme Court.
[01:57:03.600 --> 01:57:06.600]  And I was held in.
[01:57:06.600 --> 01:57:09.600]  OK, we need to move along. We're running out of time.
[01:57:09.600 --> 01:57:10.600]  I've got a minute left.
[01:57:10.600 --> 01:57:13.600]  They have over me. They held me in solitary confinement.
[01:57:13.600 --> 01:57:15.600]  Twenty four period.
[01:57:15.600 --> 01:57:17.600]  I'd never got out.
[01:57:17.600 --> 01:57:21.600]  So I went ahead, signed off on it, got the five years.
[01:57:21.600 --> 01:57:23.600]  And what is your issue?
[01:57:23.600 --> 01:57:24.600]  You only got a minute left.
[01:57:24.600 --> 01:57:31.600]  You comes with there's something called the Interstate Compact for detainers or the interstate agreement on detainers.
[01:57:31.600 --> 01:57:35.600]  And it's a federal law and it's the federal law that brought me back to Texas.
[01:57:35.600 --> 01:57:42.600]  And the federal law says that after 180 days, I have to drop the charges with prejudice.
[01:57:42.600 --> 01:57:46.600]  OK, I didn't find out about this till about two months ago.
[01:57:46.600 --> 01:57:57.600]  And my question is, I believe I was denied procedural due process because the state knew that they brought me back under this detainer law and knew they had to drop the charges.
[01:57:57.600 --> 01:58:09.600]  So that's absolutely you know, this is a really complex issue, but it certainly sounds like you would have a good claim there.
[01:58:09.600 --> 01:58:12.600]  But I'm sorry.
[01:58:12.600 --> 01:58:16.600]  We can't go into it much because we're out of time. I'm sorry.
[01:58:16.600 --> 01:58:20.600]  Call back in Thursday. This is something I'd like to talk about.
[01:58:20.600 --> 01:58:23.600]  OK. OK. Thank you so much.
[01:58:23.600 --> 01:58:29.600]  You are most welcome. I'm sorry. We're out of time. This is Randy Calton, Deborah Stevens and Steve Skidmore.
[01:58:29.600 --> 01:58:32.600]  Thank you for spending your time with us.
[01:58:32.600 --> 01:58:36.600]  Thank you for the invitation. Maybe we'll have a chance next time to finish up that document.
[01:58:36.600 --> 01:58:38.600]  Yes, I would like to do that.
[01:58:38.600 --> 01:58:43.600]  OK. Thank you all for listening. And we'll be back next week.
[01:58:43.600 --> 01:59:09.600]  And good night.
[01:59:13.600 --> 01:59:19.600]  Bye bye.
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