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[00:43.800 --> 00:48.240]  Two remote-controlled drone helicopters could be photographing crime scenes and searching
[00:48.240 --> 00:51.480]  for missing people in Arlington as soon as next month.
[00:51.480 --> 00:55.560]  Arlington Police Chief Will Johnson announced Thursday that the Federal Aviation Administration
[00:55.560 --> 01:04.160]  is given the city permission to get the rotors turning on the project in late February.
[01:04.160 --> 01:09.000]  New Hampshire is one step closer to becoming the 19th state to legalize medical marijuana.
[01:09.000 --> 01:14.440]  On Wednesday, the state House voted 286-64 to approve legislation that would allow patients
[01:14.440 --> 01:19.120]  with chronic or terminal diseases to use medical marijuana if their doctors recommended it.
[01:19.120 --> 01:23.360]  The bill allows for state-licensed marijuana dispensaries to open and grants patients
[01:23.360 --> 01:26.680]  or caregivers the right to grow up to three cannabis plants.
[01:26.680 --> 01:30.240]  The bill now moves to the New Hampshire Senate, where similar legislation was approved in
[01:30.240 --> 01:32.360]  2009 and in 2012.
[01:32.360 --> 01:36.680]  The Republican-led New Hampshire legislature approved marijuana bill last year, but it
[01:36.680 --> 01:39.760]  was vetoed by Democratic Governor John Lynch.
[01:39.760 --> 01:43.440]  Governor claimed the legislation was too open to abuse by those who didn't really need
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[01:44.960 --> 01:53.000]  In another blow to genetically modified organisms, several major U.S. food retailers have signed
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[03:43.040 --> 04:08.680]  Okay, this is Randy Kelton there with Stevens, we will blow radio on this Thursday the 21st
[04:08.680 --> 04:15.160]  of March. Beware the odds of March, can it be that we're already a quarter of the way
[04:15.160 --> 04:22.600]  into the new year? This is frightening how quickly it's moving, but there are other things
[04:22.600 --> 04:31.920]  that are moving quickly that are even more frightening. I've been doing a little research
[04:31.920 --> 04:44.160]  on what's coming, on the new technologies that are coming at us like a freight train.
[04:44.160 --> 04:54.640]  And it occurs to me that we may be addressing issues and concerned about issues that at
[04:54.640 --> 05:06.440]  this point are absolutely irrelevant and moot. I'm looking at a page for MIT and that's
[05:06.440 --> 05:13.440]  the super geek page and in this page one of the articles are talking about a lot of
[05:13.440 --> 05:25.760]  the new innovations. And one of the ones that that concerned me the most was a technology
[05:25.760 --> 05:39.520]  that someone had developed to adjust to use cell phones to manage the environmental controls
[05:39.520 --> 05:51.520]  of a high rise building. Consider that. They were using a technology to monitor everybody's
[05:51.520 --> 05:59.240]  cell phone and read the conditions in all of the different rooms where people are and
[05:59.240 --> 06:09.280]  using that input to readjust the environmental conditions in the building. Everybody has
[06:09.280 --> 06:20.000]  cell phones. The technology for using these cell phones to gather massive amounts of information
[06:20.000 --> 06:32.720]  about us, about our every move, our every word, the notion of anonymity and personal privacy.
[06:32.720 --> 06:43.760]  I think it's beyond the ability of law to regulate at this point because the gathering
[06:43.760 --> 06:52.960]  of this information has become so pervasive and so much a part of the system that there's
[06:52.960 --> 06:57.400]  not much of anything we can do about it. Well, Randy, you know what I think about that.
[06:57.400 --> 07:01.720]  It's not going to matter what kind of laws they pass. It ain't going to do any good.
[07:01.720 --> 07:07.640]  It's up to each one of us individually to regulate the protection of our own anonymity.
[07:07.640 --> 07:12.800]  And that is absolutely possible. And there is such a thing as anonymity and we can protect
[07:12.800 --> 07:18.920]  it, but we have to take personal responsibility for it. We can't rely on some bureaucrat or
[07:18.920 --> 07:27.120]  some congressman or some politician to protect us. I mean, trying to rely. I mean, that falls
[07:27.120 --> 07:32.280]  into the whole nanny state thing anyway. The government is not our mommy. They are not
[07:32.280 --> 07:37.040]  here to protect us. Okay, we have to protect ourselves.
[07:37.040 --> 07:45.120]  That was part of where I was going and you exactly did on. That was exactly my point.
[07:45.120 --> 07:52.480]  Don't even imagine that your paid off politicians are going to do anything to protect you. They
[07:52.480 --> 07:58.520]  are not. They're going to wave a red flag in front of us and say, oh, look what we're
[07:58.520 --> 08:03.320]  doing. Oh, look at this. We passed the real estate settlement procedures act, truth and
[08:03.320 --> 08:09.560]  living act, home equity protections act. Look what we did for you. And then they set statutes
[08:09.560 --> 08:15.960]  of limitations on the enforcement of those acts so short that nobody could use them.
[08:15.960 --> 08:23.560]  This is a kind of crap that they regularly pull on us. And in looking at the technology
[08:23.560 --> 08:31.120]  and the capabilities this is giving them, we may be looking in the wrong places. I think
[08:31.120 --> 08:41.400]  we need to back up and take another look around at those things that are going on in the technology.
[08:41.400 --> 08:53.120]  There are a number of innovations that will give the appearance of making our lives easier.
[08:53.120 --> 09:04.640]  And in fact, they will. But they will usher in a totally new world, not like anyone we've
[09:04.640 --> 09:12.440]  ever dealt with before. And I'm concerned that we're trying to deal with things based
[09:12.440 --> 09:21.160]  on the old technologies. And we've got stuff coming at us like a freight train. And we're
[09:21.160 --> 09:27.760]  not even paying attention to it. Look at your cell phone you've got in your pocket. This
[09:27.760 --> 09:35.000]  is probably one of the biggest deals. But consider what that cost to produce that thing.
[09:35.000 --> 09:39.400]  They can produce these things for essentially next to nothing once they have the design
[09:39.400 --> 09:46.640]  down. It's all done by machines. The vast majority of all production now is done by
[09:46.640 --> 09:53.680]  robots. And all the manufacturing industry is not running out here waving robots in our
[09:53.680 --> 09:58.520]  face. And you may go into the factory and you'll see all these machines working. You
[09:58.520 --> 10:04.680]  won't necessarily recognize them as robots. But if you watch these commercials on the
[10:04.680 --> 10:14.120]  car manufacturing and you see these spot welders, they're the most obvious. This car is moving
[10:14.120 --> 10:20.160]  under them and these mechanical arms are moving around and pumps of sparks fly out of them
[10:20.160 --> 10:30.440]  all over. Those things are absolutely accurate. They hit the right place every time without
[10:30.440 --> 10:40.560]  thinking. They dramatically decrease the price of production. They are dramatically decreasing
[10:40.560 --> 10:49.240]  the price of production of everything. We're going into a world where we will be able to
[10:49.240 --> 11:01.280]  produce far more than we can consume. I'm looking at oil prices. We're pushing $4 a
[11:01.280 --> 11:17.680]  gallon for fuel. And that petrodollar should measure inflation, but it's not. The cost
[11:17.680 --> 11:23.800]  of oil is going up dramatically, but the cost of everything is not going up to match it.
[11:23.800 --> 11:33.560]  Because at the same time, the cost of oil and energy is going up relative to the dollar.
[11:33.560 --> 11:41.920]  The cost of production of goods and services is going down because of technology. The technology
[11:41.920 --> 11:55.440]  is changing the whole global landscape. Nothing's the way it used to be. Everything in the next
[11:55.440 --> 12:04.480]  10 years is going to be totally different than what we know now. And it is my opinion
[12:04.480 --> 12:13.000]  that we need to, all of us, need to back up and take another look. What is important to
[12:13.000 --> 12:22.120]  us today and how is that going to play out in 10 or 20 years from now? How is technology
[12:22.120 --> 12:28.160]  going to change everything? What abilities will that give our government that they don't
[12:28.160 --> 12:33.360]  necessarily have now or they have now and nobody's talked about it that we really need
[12:33.360 --> 12:43.360]  to pay attention to? Anybody got any suggestions? I'm looking at this and I don't know how to
[12:43.360 --> 12:57.360]  fix it. There is way too much coming at us, way too fast. Changes in every area of life.
[12:57.360 --> 13:05.280]  There's a company in China that has put together the largest genome research facility on the
[13:05.280 --> 13:14.840]  planet. Right now, they will do complete genome sequencing for $2,000 to $3,000. And they're
[13:14.840 --> 13:25.400]  expecting within 5 to 10 years to come down to 200. They don't know everything about you.
[13:25.400 --> 13:35.000]  And the one thing they're not talking about is with full knowledge of the genome, the
[13:35.000 --> 13:45.160]  temptation to tamper with it is going to be overwhelming. I think we've all seen the science
[13:45.160 --> 13:56.760]  fiction movies of individuals engineered for specific purposes. That is no longer beyond
[13:56.760 --> 14:12.720]  science. If it is, it won't be very long. The ability to actually change our DNA in living
[14:12.720 --> 14:22.000]  beings and they're already doing that with vector viruses. There's a lot of work being
[14:22.000 --> 14:30.680]  done on hearing. They actually grew a human ear on a mouse's back and they worked out
[14:30.680 --> 14:40.720]  how to trick the genome. They went into these mice and they gave them something that destroyed
[14:40.720 --> 14:45.240]  all the little hairs in the inner ear that causes to be able to hear. So it went stone
[14:45.240 --> 14:55.560]  deaf. And then using a vector virus, they injected the protein, a protein-producing
[14:55.560 --> 15:05.720]  virus that produced the protein that in the embryo tells the genome to produce these little
[15:05.720 --> 15:14.200]  hairs. And when the system produces these hairs, they put out a chemical. And when the concentration
[15:14.200 --> 15:21.360]  of that chemical gets high enough, it shuts this gene back off again permanently. So once
[15:21.360 --> 15:28.400]  the ear grows to maturity, the system shuts it off. It doesn't produce it anymore. That's
[15:28.400 --> 15:38.120]  just a crap out of all of us. And that was 10 or 15 years ago. What else are they able
[15:38.120 --> 15:46.720]  to do? And these are things they'll be doing to living creatures. This is not something
[15:46.720 --> 15:56.440]  where they change the zygote and or change the genetic makeup before the creature developed.
[15:56.440 --> 16:03.600]  This is a fully developed mature creature that they went in and rewrote his genome to get
[16:03.600 --> 16:12.920]  it to do something he didn't do before. We should all be afraid. We should be very afraid.
[16:12.920 --> 16:20.920]  We really start looking around at what is coming. These changes are going to happen
[16:20.920 --> 16:27.040]  and we can't stop them. How are we going to deal with them? That's the question I bring
[16:27.040 --> 16:38.160]  today. And frankly, I have no idea at this point. I kind of feel like Alex Jones at the
[16:38.160 --> 16:43.480]  moment. I'm bringing out a problem that I don't know how to fix it. If you have some
[16:43.480 --> 16:49.120]  input, I would very much like to see it. Herman, I see you there. We'll pick you up on the other
[16:49.120 --> 16:56.120]  side. This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rood Law Radio, a call in number 512-646-1984.
[16:56.120 --> 17:24.120]  We'll be right back with you.
[17:24.120 --> 17:31.120]  We'll be right back with you.
[17:54.120 --> 18:01.120]  We'll be right back with you.
[18:24.120 --> 18:50.120]  We'll be right back with you.
[18:50.120 --> 18:57.120]  We'll be right back with you.
[19:20.120 --> 19:47.320]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rood Law Radio. Sorry, Imran, I screwed up
[19:47.320 --> 19:54.320]  and called you an ermine. An ermine is a vermin and I would not consider to call you a vermin.
[19:54.320 --> 20:00.320]  So you're not ermine. Okay, Imran, I'm going to stop playing with your name. I know you
[20:00.320 --> 20:06.320]  have something for us tonight. What do you have for us?
[20:06.320 --> 20:10.320]  Yeah, I was wondering if you had a chance to read my email that I sent you, I think,
[20:10.320 --> 20:18.320]  like two days ago or so. I don't remember seeing an email from you two days ago. What
[20:18.320 --> 20:24.320]  was the subject? It was just a follow-up on me trying to bring criminal charges against
[20:24.320 --> 20:30.320]  some Maricopa County officials and some other people for them trying to frame me and one
[20:30.320 --> 20:38.320]  option I chose was your option of mailing a criminal complaint to federal grangers and
[20:38.320 --> 20:45.320]  I followed up with you on a few calls and everything is going just like you said. First
[20:45.320 --> 20:52.320]  of all, I didn't get any acknowledgement on the certified mail receipts so then I went
[20:52.320 --> 20:59.320]  to the courtroom to talk to the clerk of the court who called the US Marshal to come in
[20:59.320 --> 21:04.320]  and question me and stuff like that. I guess they were trying to intimidate me or something
[21:04.320 --> 21:15.320]  and then out of the blue, oh wait, then I went to the postal supervisor to try to open up
[21:15.320 --> 21:21.320]  an investigation and then out of the blue I got my parents received a box with all my
[21:21.320 --> 21:26.320]  complaints which were opened and then a letter which is what I emailed you and the letter
[21:26.320 --> 21:32.320]  reads, if you don't mind me reading it, did Mr. Jamal, you previously sent or you previously
[21:32.320 --> 21:39.320]  sent in separate envelopes material directed to the federal grand jury, we are returning
[21:39.320 --> 21:45.320]  the material to you with the explanation below. The grand jury is an arm of the court and
[21:45.320 --> 21:51.320]  the US Attorney's Office serves as a legal advisor to the grand jury. For that reason
[21:51.320 --> 21:57.320]  the material was turned over to our office. Please understand that only a federal prosecutor
[21:57.320 --> 22:03.320]  may present information or evidence to the grand jury because the grand jury does not
[22:03.320 --> 22:10.320]  have unlimited investigative authority. Rather the grand jury examines witnesses and determines
[22:10.320 --> 22:19.320]  probable cause on matters presented to it by the US Attorney and the US Attorney or his
[22:19.320 --> 22:29.320]  designee must counter sign any indictment returned to the grand jury. Hold on, he must do what
[22:29.320 --> 22:38.320]  to the indictment? I'm sorry, what was that? You said he must do something that the US Attorney
[22:38.320 --> 22:47.320]  must do something to any indictment brought to the grand jury. Oh yeah, it says the US
[22:47.320 --> 22:54.320]  Attorney or his designee must counter sign any indictment returned by the grand jury.
[22:54.320 --> 23:00.320]  So basically everything is just turning out just like you said it would.
[23:00.320 --> 23:08.320]  That's actually no it hasn't. That's exactly what I told you they would do, that the US
[23:08.320 --> 23:14.320]  Attorney would get it. I didn't tell you the US Attorney would send you that specific letter
[23:14.320 --> 23:19.320]  and worded that very way but that's exactly what we expect him to do.
[23:19.320 --> 23:24.320]  Yeah but isn't he just basically admitting that he just committed a crime?
[23:24.320 --> 23:28.320]  Yes he is. Okay, so I don't know why.
[23:28.320 --> 23:35.320]  Okay so here's the deal, he just admitted that he committed a crime. What do you do next?
[23:35.320 --> 23:44.320]  Well what I did is I've written another complaint in the form of a pleading. It's titled as
[23:44.320 --> 23:50.320]  Information and Request for Judicial Inquiry and Criminal Complaint and I just basically
[23:50.320 --> 23:55.320]  laid out the story that I gave you and then I'm using his letter as an exhibit.
[23:55.320 --> 24:00.320]  And what did you accuse the prosecutor of doing?
[24:00.320 --> 24:05.320]  Obstruction of justice and male tampering.
[24:05.320 --> 24:06.320]  And one more.
[24:06.320 --> 24:11.320]  My rights under title 18, 241 and 242 because...
[24:11.320 --> 24:14.320]  Perfect, that was the other thing, you did perfect.
[24:14.320 --> 24:25.320]  Right, because actually I went to my local university law school library and I found
[24:25.320 --> 24:33.320]  an investigation here, let me see here. I found an investigation of this Corpus Juris
[24:33.320 --> 24:41.320]  Secundum body of law. It says, quote, generally an indictment must be obtained by the authorized
[24:41.320 --> 24:49.320]  public official but unless one is required by statute an informer or project prosecutor
[24:49.320 --> 24:56.320]  is not necessary to an indictment and they give the case of Roth v. U.S.
[24:56.320 --> 24:58.320]  So basically...
[24:58.320 --> 25:05.320]  Yes and you might consider the case of, I think it's Miller v. U.S.
[25:05.320 --> 25:06.320]  Okay.
[25:06.320 --> 25:13.320]  Deborah Eusearest, that's the one. I'm pretty sure it's Miller v. U.S. 1990 case where Scalia
[25:13.320 --> 25:21.320]  said that while the court consecrates the grand jury, once the grand jury is impaneled,
[25:21.320 --> 25:26.320]  it is essentially a fourth branch of government.
[25:26.320 --> 25:31.320]  The prosecutor lied to you and that's evidence.
[25:31.320 --> 25:33.320]  Prosecutor is saying...
[25:33.320 --> 25:37.320]  The grand jury is the arm of the court, which is not.
[25:37.320 --> 25:45.320]  Basically the origins of the grand jury were as a common law body which is separate from
[25:45.320 --> 25:48.320]  the other just by understanding.
[25:48.320 --> 25:52.320]  That's exactly what Scalia said in Miller v. U.S.
[25:52.320 --> 25:53.320]  Right.
[25:53.320 --> 25:57.320]  The prosecutor doesn't have a thing to say about the grand jury.
[25:57.320 --> 26:02.320]  Right and then the attorney says the U.S. attorney's office serves as the legal advisor
[26:02.320 --> 26:07.320]  to the grand jury. Well, you may serve as legal advisor but that doesn't mean that someone
[26:07.320 --> 26:13.320]  can come on their own accord and appear before the grand jury as a matter of their common
[26:13.320 --> 26:16.320]  law right, which they have a right to do.
[26:16.320 --> 26:18.320]  Okay, no you don't.
[26:18.320 --> 26:22.320]  Okay, let me sort this out and I'm glad you brought that up because when you were reading
[26:22.320 --> 26:25.320]  the letter that was an issue you're wanting to address.
[26:25.320 --> 26:33.320]  The prosecutor said that he was the only one who could present a complaint to the grand jury.
[26:33.320 --> 26:35.320]  Right, which is false.
[26:35.320 --> 26:37.320]  That is not...
[26:37.320 --> 26:40.320]  That is a half truth.
[26:40.320 --> 26:48.320]  The prosecutor is the only one who can present a criminal complaint to the grand jury as a
[26:48.320 --> 26:54.320]  matter of legal right, statutory right.
[26:54.320 --> 27:02.320]  Anyone can present to the grand jury if they are so requested but when he said use the
[27:02.320 --> 27:10.320]  term present, he wasn't using that in the way that you use it in everyday parlance.
[27:10.320 --> 27:17.320]  He was using it in the legal term and the legal definition of presentment is a formal
[27:17.320 --> 27:23.320]  presentation of criminal accusations to a grand jury.
[27:23.320 --> 27:31.320]  There is nothing to prevent you from making it known to a grand jury member that crime
[27:31.320 --> 27:35.320]  has been committed because the duties of the grand jury say the grand jury shall
[27:35.320 --> 27:43.320]  investigate into all criminal accusations that come to their knowledge by whatever means.
[27:43.320 --> 27:46.320]  And the legislature was real clear about that.
[27:46.320 --> 27:52.320]  The prosecutors are trying very hard to hijack the grand jury and the complaints you worked
[27:52.320 --> 27:56.320]  out for that were dead on.
[27:56.320 --> 27:58.320]  You understand the process.
[27:58.320 --> 28:01.320]  It doesn't matter what they do.
[28:01.320 --> 28:06.320]  They're going to do what they do and when they do you come right back at them.
[28:06.320 --> 28:11.320]  And it winds up that everything they do makes it worse for them.
[28:11.320 --> 28:16.320]  I'm taking your next step advice which is presenting this to the judge.
[28:16.320 --> 28:24.320]  The overall privilege judge for the U.S. District Court of Arizona.
[28:24.320 --> 28:28.320]  Actually this is a state crime.
[28:28.320 --> 28:31.320]  I did both.
[28:31.320 --> 28:36.320]  I wrote a criminal complaint for the federal grand jury and then I wrote a criminal complaint
[28:36.320 --> 28:38.320]  for the Arizona grand jury.
[28:38.320 --> 28:44.320]  So the Arizona grand jury just contains the Arizona statutes and then the federal grand
[28:44.320 --> 28:47.320]  jury just contains the federal statutes.
[28:47.320 --> 28:48.320]  Perfect.
[28:48.320 --> 28:49.320]  Perfect.
[28:49.320 --> 28:53.320]  Now you get to go work over the local district attorney.
[28:53.320 --> 28:54.320]  Right.
[28:54.320 --> 28:57.320]  See he don't have a dog in that hunt.
[28:57.320 --> 28:58.320]  Right.
[28:58.320 --> 29:04.320]  And they tend not to like those smart mouth prosecutors, federal prosecutors anyway.
[29:04.320 --> 29:08.320]  You should have seen the one in Deming, New Mexico when we told him he could go after
[29:08.320 --> 29:10.320]  federal officials in the state.
[29:10.320 --> 29:12.320]  He was grinning ear from ear to ear.
[29:12.320 --> 29:14.320]  He loved that idea.
[29:14.320 --> 29:19.320]  So now when you start hammering this local prosecutor for not going after this federal
[29:19.320 --> 29:26.320]  prosecutor, he's going to be all over this fed when we create ourselves a little politics.
[29:26.320 --> 29:32.320]  Especially when the judge refuses to act and then you go after a federal judge and a local
[29:32.320 --> 29:33.320]  grand jury.
[29:33.320 --> 29:35.320]  That's going to get interesting.
[29:35.320 --> 29:36.320]  Okay.
[29:36.320 --> 29:37.320]  We are going to break.
[29:37.320 --> 29:40.320]  Ms. Mary, I see you there.
[29:40.320 --> 29:42.320]  Hang on.
[29:42.320 --> 29:45.320]  Imran, we'll be back on the other side.
[29:45.320 --> 29:48.320]  This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig.
[29:48.320 --> 29:53.320]  We'll leave the radio our call in number 512-646-1984.
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[33:56.320 --> 33:57.320]  Okay.
[33:57.320 --> 33:58.320]  We are back.
[33:58.320 --> 34:04.320]  Randy Kelton, Debbie Stevens, Ruvla Radio, and we're talking to Imran in Arizona.
[34:04.320 --> 34:05.320]  Yes.
[34:05.320 --> 34:08.320]  I've got just a few other quick questions.
[34:08.320 --> 34:15.320]  One, there was a bond forfeiture hearing and it was involved like a criminal matter.
[34:15.320 --> 34:19.320]  And then the bond forfeiture hearing basically the, actually it wasn't a judge.
[34:19.320 --> 34:26.320]  It was what Arizona calls a commissioner, which is basically a county attorney who dresses in a robe
[34:26.320 --> 34:29.320]  and publicly presents himself as a judge.
[34:29.320 --> 34:36.320]  But anyway, this person was saying that he was going to reinstate a bond
[34:36.320 --> 34:41.320]  and then he changed his mind and asked for input of a state attorney,
[34:41.320 --> 34:47.320]  which was actually a county attorney, and then he made a judgment that the bond was forfeited.
[34:47.320 --> 34:54.320]  And I was wondering when that occurs, is that a summary judgment or is that a declaratory judgment?
[34:54.320 --> 34:56.320]  And what's the difference between the two?
[34:56.320 --> 34:57.320]  Do you know?
[34:57.320 --> 34:58.320]  Well, no, wait a minute.
[34:58.320 --> 35:07.320]  Were both parties present?
[35:07.320 --> 35:10.320]  Yeah, I believe so.
[35:10.320 --> 35:20.320]  And it wasn't a, you might call it a summary judgment, but it wasn't,
[35:20.320 --> 35:26.320]  declaratory judgment does not involve money.
[35:26.320 --> 35:27.320]  Okay.
[35:27.320 --> 35:32.320]  So this involved money, so this would be just a summary ruling.
[35:32.320 --> 35:33.320]  Okay.
[35:33.320 --> 35:40.320]  The summary judgment has a somewhat different legal definition.
[35:40.320 --> 35:42.320]  This was simply a judicial determination.
[35:42.320 --> 35:55.320]  A summary judgment is where someone's issues are ruled on without them having input because of some failure on their part.
[35:55.320 --> 36:06.320]  Like under Rule 12, they move for summary judgment of dismissal of everything because you failed to state a claim which cover can be had.
[36:06.320 --> 36:11.320]  If you don't answer a lawsuit, they'll file for summary judgment.
[36:11.320 --> 36:12.320]  Okay.
[36:12.320 --> 36:16.320]  But if both parties are there, then this is just a judicial determination.
[36:16.320 --> 36:18.320]  It wouldn't actually fall under either one of those.
[36:18.320 --> 36:19.320]  Okay.
[36:19.320 --> 36:25.320]  And another question I have is I'm applying for work at some places.
[36:25.320 --> 36:31.320]  And the social security number, I don't want to give it out.
[36:31.320 --> 36:35.320]  And when I talk to some employers, they'll be like, okay, that's fine.
[36:35.320 --> 36:40.320]  And then other employers are like, no, you have to give us a social security number.
[36:40.320 --> 36:45.320]  And actually under Title 42, there's, I think it's 408.
[36:45.320 --> 36:49.320]  There's a statement that says you do not have to give out your social security number.
[36:49.320 --> 37:01.320]  So I was wondering if you know if for people who are applying for work, how they can still apply for work and get employed without disclosing a social security number.
[37:01.320 --> 37:24.320]  Well, ask them to sign a statement of not acknowledging your objection and citing the statute that you object and that they assume responsibility for any subsequent identity theft that may occur as a result of your giving out your social security number.
[37:24.320 --> 37:34.320]  That'll probably get them to, you know, you don't want to go to your potential employer and say screw you, you got to hire me, even if I'm a jerk.
[37:34.320 --> 37:38.320]  If you go to the employer and say, no, here's the code.
[37:38.320 --> 37:53.320]  If you ask me for this and I give it to you and somebody subsequently steals my identity, since you're the only one that's got it, you're the one I'm going to have to come to.
[37:53.320 --> 38:05.320]  So ask them if they will consider some other form of information that would not be as likely to compromise your identity or financial records.
[38:05.320 --> 38:06.320]  Okay.
[38:06.320 --> 38:13.320]  And negotiate, you know, we don't want to pick our fights real careful.
[38:13.320 --> 38:30.320]  No, I mean, obviously, I don't want to like make waves or anything like that. That's what I was just wondering is like, I've heard there are some people who are able to get employed without, you know, disclosing their social security number and without being like, you know, appearing like a jerk or something like that, you know.
[38:30.320 --> 38:31.320]  Yeah.
[38:31.320 --> 38:48.320]  And if you demonstrate them to them, you're concerned. And this is such a concern that the legislature passed laws against it. And if you make this a condition of employment, you've been violation of this.
[38:48.320 --> 39:01.320]  That's not what you tell them. That's not really my concern. My concern is if somehow this gets out from your systems, since if my identity gets stolen, you're the only guy that I gave it to.
[39:01.320 --> 39:04.320]  So you'll be the one I come to look for.
[39:04.320 --> 39:08.320]  Do you really want to go there?
[39:08.320 --> 39:19.320]  And good chance they'll go back. If you have a good issue and you give them good reason, most employers will be accommodating.
[39:19.320 --> 39:34.320]  You know, and this may be a policy that's been in place for years and nobody's ever raised an objection and nobody ever thought of it. And then when the boss says, I can be responsible for identity theft, they will come up with another method.
[39:34.320 --> 39:35.320]  Most likely.
[39:35.320 --> 39:38.320]  And do you have time for one quick question?
[39:38.320 --> 39:40.320]  Yes.
[39:40.320 --> 39:41.320]  Okay.
[39:41.320 --> 39:51.320]  I was wondering for a Title 42, 1983 civil rights lawsuit, do you know what the statute of limitations is on that by any chance?
[39:51.320 --> 39:54.320]  I think it's five years.
[39:54.320 --> 39:55.320]  Five years, okay.
[39:55.320 --> 39:58.320]  Although don't quote me on that. I could be wrong on that.
[39:58.320 --> 40:09.320]  Okay. All right. Well, thanks so much for your help. And if you want, I've sent you all that stuff in an email if you want to read the U.S. Attorney's letter that he sent me.
[40:09.320 --> 40:15.320]  Yes, yes, I will. I don't remember seeing it. I just went through all of my emails yesterday. I don't remember seeing it.
[40:15.320 --> 40:19.320]  But I've been having email issues lately.
[40:19.320 --> 40:22.320]  I'll look for it because I definitely want to see that.
[40:22.320 --> 40:23.320]  Okay, no problem.
[40:23.320 --> 40:25.320]  I may even post that on the website.
[40:25.320 --> 40:27.320]  All right. Thanks.
[40:27.320 --> 40:28.320]  Okay. Thank you.
[40:28.320 --> 40:35.320]  Okay. Now we're going to go to Mary in Texas. Hello, Miss Mary.
[40:35.320 --> 40:38.320]  Hello, Mr. Randall.
[40:38.320 --> 40:42.320]  It's been a long time since I've heard your sweet voice on the air.
[40:42.320 --> 40:43.320]  You too.
[40:43.320 --> 40:46.320]  I didn't know you were on Thursday still.
[40:46.320 --> 40:49.320]  Oh, yes.
[40:49.320 --> 40:52.320]  So what do you have for us today?
[40:52.320 --> 41:05.320]  Well, you know, I'm a member of CAAB, Kixinsport Countable Government, and during this legislative session here in Texas, we're meeting at the library, the Capitol Library on the second floor twice a month.
[41:05.320 --> 41:10.320]  And I was excited in a, I guess it was February the 13th.
[41:10.320 --> 41:22.320]  We had a lot of folks come to our meeting to solicit our help, and one of them was on electronic frontier freedom, I believe.
[41:22.320 --> 41:30.320]  And then I saw her from Grits for Brexist, Scott Hansen, and is another Kathy Mitchell.
[41:30.320 --> 41:32.320]  She does consumer protection issues.
[41:32.320 --> 41:41.320]  Today, we're asking for our help, as they have with a lot of the politicians in Texas to support one of their bills.
[41:41.320 --> 41:45.320]  They're working on an amendment that reaches to privacy.
[41:45.320 --> 41:50.320]  And then Article 18 of the Texas Code of Criminal Procedures.
[41:50.320 --> 41:54.320]  So there's some positive news on that front.
[41:54.320 --> 42:08.320]  I went at the last minute to some Yale study with a lot of electronic privacy advocates, including judges, a last couple weeks, and they've got a lot of support of their bills.
[42:08.320 --> 42:14.320]  And I just encourage people to look at GritsforBrexist.org.
[42:14.320 --> 42:18.320]  I know when I turn on the radio, you were talking a little bit about this.
[42:18.320 --> 42:26.320]  What they were saying in this notice they gave out on January 9th was that cell phone companies cease to fight in surveillance requests.
[42:26.320 --> 42:31.320]  Washington, July 9th, 2012.
[42:31.320 --> 42:45.320]  Reuters mobile phone carriers received more than 1.3 million requests last year from U.S. law enforcement agencies for their customers' phone records, and their requests are on the rise, according to the data gathered, as part of a congressional inquiry into cell phone surveillance.
[42:45.320 --> 42:59.320]  Representative Edward Markey released data on Monday, July 9th, 2012 to nine wireless carriers revealing the number of requests in 2011 for cell phone records.
[42:59.320 --> 43:11.320]  Neither law enforcement nor companies are required to report such requests, making the inquiry and release of information from the company's the first public accounting of law enforcement's use of vital phone surveillance.
[43:11.320 --> 43:34.320]  Markey and Massachusetts Democrats sent letters to nine wireless carriers last month, January 9th, 2013, asking for information on the volume and scope of the request after the New York Times reported in April of 2012 that the cell phone tracking had become a common practice for police with little or no oversight.
[43:34.320 --> 43:44.320]  Okay, hang on. We're going to break that. I think I've seen a bill in the Texas House on that issue.
[43:44.320 --> 44:00.320]  We'll pick this up when we come back. This is Randy Kelton and Debra Stevens, read about radio. I call it number 512-646-1984. We'll be right back.
[44:00.320 --> 44:13.320]  Mr. President, members of Congress, you've been making a lot of noise about taking our guns away, but you might want to review history. 1835, Gonzales, Texas territory.
[44:13.320 --> 44:28.320]  The authorities wanted to confiscate the big gun that protected that colony. You know what the people said? Come and take it because they were willing to fight for their freedom and their guns.
[44:28.320 --> 44:42.320]  So are we. Come and take it if you want it. Come and take it if you think you can. Come and take it, but I want you. You'll have to buy it for my cold hands.
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[46:25.320 --> 46:35.320]  Okay, we are back. Brenda Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rue La Radio, and we're talking to Miss Mary in Texas.
[46:35.320 --> 46:49.320]  So, a couple of the disturbances I found out from the group, which is actually called Electronic Frontier Foundation and also Grips for Breakfast, was that cell phone companies make police pay for searches.
[46:49.320 --> 46:57.320]  So, instead of, I guess, providing information due to a warrant, they're actually just charging.
[46:57.320 --> 47:02.320]  Cell phone companies are making money every time the police conduct a search.
[47:02.320 --> 47:14.320]  And there is something that I believe Kathy Mitchell from the Consumer Protection Group mentioned was that the cops have some kind of cell tower in their cars, and they can reroute calls through them.
[47:14.320 --> 47:20.320]  And I think Alex had talked about that once, but I believe she backed us up on that. I have these notes here.
[47:20.320 --> 47:37.320]  And also, one more thing that was disturbing, she was saying that if the email is still online in the dot-com account or whatever account you have, for more than six months, it basically is seen as the company's data.
[47:37.320 --> 47:48.320]  So, they're basically saying because the company uses that data as part of their contract with you, they can access it freely through the company and they don't have to ask you.
[47:48.320 --> 47:54.320]  Apparently, these laws haven't been updated since 1986 or in that region.
[47:54.320 --> 48:12.320]  There's some more data that they put out on there. So, the solution is to amend Article 18 of the Texas Code of Criminal Procedures to, one, require a warrant for location tracking of individuals, regardless of the type of its device, except in the case of a life-threatening emergency.
[48:12.320 --> 48:24.320]  To allow an order tracking, allow an order for tracking to be sealed up to 180 days, unless a judge finds good cause to extend the seal.
[48:24.320 --> 48:33.320]  And last three, require reporting of aggregate information about the amount, type, and outcome of locational tracking by police agencies.
[48:33.320 --> 48:44.320]  Kathy also said that your name is opposed to us. If not necessarily to sell companies, they're kind of stuck in this gray area, but it's the police union.
[48:44.320 --> 48:59.320]  So, it's sort of the consumer protection groups against the police union, but all this information should be able to be found out by going to gritsforbreakfast.org, that's G-R-I-T-S, forbreakfast.org.
[48:59.320 --> 49:02.320]  It's an interesting name, easy to remember.
[49:02.320 --> 49:11.320]  Well, I think, yeah, let me see. He's been around in Austin for at least 25 years, and he does oppositional opponent research.
[49:11.320 --> 49:15.320]  And he's been working with the Texas Innocence Project.
[49:15.320 --> 49:22.320]  And so, I don't know, I wanted to give everybody some hope on that, but I'm asking everyone to get involved.
[49:22.320 --> 49:32.320]  And I think your main access point on this is gritsforbreakfast.org or CAG, Texas accountable government, because we have elected to help them with this project.
[49:32.320 --> 49:37.320]  See if you can get him in contact with me. I'd like to bring him on the show.
[49:37.320 --> 49:42.320]  Okay, definitely. I would love to do that. I also want to do that.
[49:42.320 --> 49:44.320]  Yeah, go ahead.
[49:44.320 --> 49:53.320]  We as a community need to take a step forward so that we're not always chasing behind the bad guys.
[49:53.320 --> 49:58.320]  And these folks that help us at least catch up with them.
[49:58.320 --> 50:04.320]  Definitely. They came to the CAG meeting, not even really knowing what we could do for them.
[50:04.320 --> 50:08.320]  And we were just surrounded by a lot of great people there from other groups also.
[50:08.320 --> 50:14.320]  It was really nice to be in the capital. CAG is about three or four years old now.
[50:14.320 --> 50:21.320]  And we were having our meeting in the library and we had international nonprofits coming to us, asking for support.
[50:21.320 --> 50:32.320]  And these well institutionalized groups coming to us with electronic frontier foundation and gritsforbreakfast.
[50:32.320 --> 50:36.320]  So it was just really powerful.
[50:36.320 --> 50:43.320]  And I myself on my own decided to write a bill, which at this point is going to be in the form of an amendment relating to
[50:43.320 --> 50:48.320]  and protecting to the use of audio, video, and typewriting in court.
[50:48.320 --> 50:59.320]  I've already gone to all of the house committee, Judiciary Committee offices, and I've made about a good friend in my own area,
[50:59.320 --> 51:07.320]  Elliot Neistat. He's been so helpful and encouraging. So I have my local guy helping me.
[51:07.320 --> 51:14.320]  And then there's two, there's a senator from Houston who's on the National Innocence Project Board, the guy that busted
[51:14.320 --> 51:21.320]  Williamson County with the Morton case. And his office is very friendly and there's a lady,
[51:21.320 --> 51:29.320]  Synchronia. She is African American and has been in office about 36 years. I'm calling her the Black Ann Richards.
[51:29.320 --> 51:37.320]  She has so much savvy and she's on the Judiciary Committee board. So I'm going to be working on the amendment.
[51:37.320 --> 51:45.320]  I'm going to be working on getting every office telling me why or why not they're interested in this bill.
[51:45.320 --> 51:51.320]  And I'm going to be taking it forward. Primarily I'll be using my candle story to back up my concerns.
[51:51.320 --> 51:59.320]  My own issue of having my email text after I did a judicial conduct complaint for Judge Jenkins.
[51:59.320 --> 52:10.320]  And also I'll be talking about the problems Carolyn Barnes went through with her forced drugging in Vernon State Hospital
[52:10.320 --> 52:18.320]  when she wouldn't drop the lawsuit. She did for her client where eight of the local cops were subpoenaed.
[52:18.320 --> 52:22.320]  She subpoenaed them for lack of evidence, lost the case, set it for appeal.
[52:22.320 --> 52:28.320]  And the day after she set it for appeal, they basically raided her house with a sniper on her head.
[52:28.320 --> 52:35.320]  And she ended up being thrown into an insane asylum, a forensic insane asylum where they forcibly drugged her four times.
[52:35.320 --> 52:40.320]  And she was getting beat up by some of the criminal inmates there.
[52:40.320 --> 52:45.320]  And CCHR really helped me with that, Citizens' Commission on Human Rights.
[52:45.320 --> 52:52.320]  They are part of this religious Scientology community and I just think they're great people.
[52:52.320 --> 52:59.320]  I had a wonderful time working with them and I don't know if we could have gotten her out if it wasn't for them.
[52:59.320 --> 53:01.320]  She asked me to call them for her when she was in.
[53:01.320 --> 53:14.320]  So I'll be using my experience with the judicial conduct complaints and my candles and Carolyn Barnes is sort of my main testimony.
[53:14.320 --> 53:18.320]  So, Quincy's Carolyn Barnes next hearing?
[53:18.320 --> 53:25.320]  I'm not sure. It's in April at some point. She had one, I believe, since then.
[53:25.320 --> 53:31.320]  She got out about a month and a half ago. All of a sudden, they just said she was competent.
[53:31.320 --> 53:37.320]  And that was right after they had raided her room, had stolen all of her laptop.
[53:37.320 --> 53:43.320]  She had just written a federal lawsuit against Williamson County and I believe Doug Shaver, judge Doug Shaver,
[53:43.320 --> 53:51.320]  he's a retired judge who I've been told that sentenced more people to death than any other judge in Texas.
[53:51.320 --> 53:58.320]  They raided her room, they took all of her journals and CCHR helped get those back.
[53:58.320 --> 54:02.320]  They went there a few days later and required an inventory.
[54:02.320 --> 54:09.320]  That hospital she was in in Kerrville was the same one that Andrea Yanks is in.
[54:09.320 --> 54:16.320]  But I don't think they had any association. Carolyn actually was able to freely walk the ground.
[54:16.320 --> 54:21.320]  She could have walked off at any time, you know, to go from unit to unit and she had gotten,
[54:21.320 --> 54:25.320]  she was like in the highest functioning unit.
[54:25.320 --> 54:28.320]  But, you know, a new DA is now in Williamson County.
[54:28.320 --> 54:36.320]  It's no longer John Bradley who had a real disdain for Desi and Carolyn, I guess,
[54:36.320 --> 54:42.320]  and some others that were actually helping and supporting sovereign travelers.
[54:42.320 --> 54:50.320]  So the time that she had gotten incarcerated was when she was supporting a sovereign freedom to travel folk with,
[54:50.320 --> 54:55.320]  I believe you might have even had a private license plate on.
[54:55.320 --> 55:02.320]  I know many friends have gotten tased and jailed in Williamson County for doing that activity.
[55:02.320 --> 55:07.320]  Carolyn has started a website since she's been out. It's called Crazy Free.
[55:07.320 --> 55:13.320]  Look it up. It will give, it gives you a medical directive, in case you're incarcerated,
[55:13.320 --> 55:19.320]  that they are disallowed from engaging you with any kind of antipsychotics.
[55:19.320 --> 55:23.320]  Some of these antipsychotics, none the front part of your brain.
[55:23.320 --> 55:27.320]  And as I've been told, if you're looking at, say, a Christmas tree, you can't even think about it.
[55:27.320 --> 55:31.320]  You can look at something and knowingly non-cognizate.
[55:31.320 --> 55:35.320]  So I guess it's sort of like being accidentally drunk.
[55:35.320 --> 55:41.320]  So she has a website called Crazy Free, and it provides medical directives
[55:41.320 --> 55:48.320]  or anti-psychiatry use, especially in the confinement and jailing situation.
[55:48.320 --> 55:56.320]  Well, good. I may want to talk to her about putting together a set of tools similar to bar grievance.
[55:56.320 --> 56:01.320]  If you guys have to talk to her, I have the tool to develop it with.
[56:01.320 --> 56:08.320]  If she's interested, we'll put one together so that people can file professional conduct complaints
[56:08.320 --> 56:12.320]  against psychiatrists and psychologists and public health workers.
[56:12.320 --> 56:14.320]  Let's do that, yeah.
[56:14.320 --> 56:18.320]  So I really appreciate it. I'll let you get back to the show.
[56:18.320 --> 56:25.320]  I'm giving you an air hug and an air kiss, and look forward to seeing you soon.
[56:25.320 --> 56:33.320]  All the listeners out there, get involved, run for office, go farm, learn some karate, learn yoga, meditate.
[56:33.320 --> 56:38.320]  You know, get out there, make friends, use skills, and be an entrepreneur.
[56:38.320 --> 56:41.320]  Be a capitalist, and get involved and have fun.
[56:41.320 --> 56:47.320]  You know, whatever's going to happen, this still is our life, and we are our brother's keepers.
[56:47.320 --> 56:50.320]  So let's lead by example, you guys.
[56:50.320 --> 56:56.320]  Okay, thank you very much, Barry. It's always good to hear from you.
[56:56.320 --> 57:01.320]  Okay, now we're going to go to Robin in Florida.
[57:01.320 --> 57:04.320]  Hello, Robin. What do you have for us today?
[57:04.320 --> 57:07.320]  Hey, Randy. Good evening.
[57:07.320 --> 57:16.320]  I've got sort of a roundabout foreclosure question, but it's actually a sort of complex.
[57:16.320 --> 57:23.320]  Here's the background. I have three properties, all three in foreclosure, two of them rented.
[57:23.320 --> 57:27.320]  I had an agent come to me about two and a half years ago.
[57:27.320 --> 57:34.320]  Hey, you know, he wanted to buy the house, one of them, when I was rented to him, basing for cheap rent,
[57:34.320 --> 57:38.320]  and he was going to do a short sale on it and buy it from me.
[57:38.320 --> 57:46.320]  So that was three years ago, July. So he's been paying me rent for, you know, for that period of time.
[57:46.320 --> 57:53.320]  He's been paying me personal check, his wife's check, sometimes his company check.
[57:53.320 --> 57:57.320]  I guess you're going to break.
[57:57.320 --> 58:03.320]  Okay, hold on. We're going to go to break. We're going to the top of the heartbreak.
[58:03.320 --> 58:06.320]  Okay, you've got about 30 seconds more. Go ahead.
[58:06.320 --> 58:13.320]  Okay, well, he's been paying me with these checks from his one of his company entities.
[58:13.320 --> 58:20.320]  And now I just got a 1099 all of a sudden after two years for last year.
[58:20.320 --> 58:25.320]  There's been some sort of a loose cannon in a lot of ways, so that's...
[58:25.320 --> 58:30.320]  Okay, hang on. We'll pick that up when we come back on the other side.
[58:30.320 --> 58:39.320]  This is Randy Kelton, Debbie Stephens, Eddie Craig, Rule of Law Radio, our call in number 512-646-1984.
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[01:03:20.320 --> 01:03:37.320]  Okay, we're back. Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens, Rule of Law Radio, and we're talking to Robin in Florida.
[01:03:37.320 --> 01:03:43.320]  Okay, Robin, you got a 1099.
[01:03:43.320 --> 01:03:54.320]  Yes, I got a 1099 from this gentleman. He's been there two and almost three years now and all of a sudden I get a 1099 for 2012.
[01:03:54.320 --> 01:04:10.320]  In the meantime, he was short selling the property, had a company that was doing that. They weren't moving at all. I didn't really care, to be honest, because we were pushing everything off the sale and all that stuff.
[01:04:10.320 --> 01:04:24.320]  So in the meantime, he was getting, you know, there's a sale coming up, so he's worried about that. He wanted to get the short sale done, so he switches companies and gets this attorney and his law firm and the short sale company involved,
[01:04:24.320 --> 01:04:34.320]  which I talked to them and I agreed, okay, let's use this new company. So they're involved in the middle now, which is fine, but might...
[01:04:34.320 --> 01:04:42.320]  They're very good, very professional, going back and forth to emailing, making sure everything's good, totally different from his previous company.
[01:04:42.320 --> 01:04:50.320]  But he's sort of a loose cannon in this new company and this new company group.
[01:04:50.320 --> 01:04:52.320]  Okay, wait a minute.
[01:04:52.320 --> 01:04:54.320]  What's your issue?
[01:04:54.320 --> 01:05:09.320]  The issue is the 1099 and the reason why he sent it to me. We've been having issues with him, requesting for an issue, he gets upset because, you know, short sale, you need a lot of financial information.
[01:05:09.320 --> 01:05:14.320]  You got to get a contract from him. You got to get the whole bunch of stuff you need.
[01:05:14.320 --> 01:05:25.320]  So I had sent him an email, basically told him, listen, I don't want to go on to the whole specific of it, so it's sort of long.
[01:05:25.320 --> 01:05:35.320]  So basically I just told him, listen, quit doing this, give the people what they need, whatever, basically threaten him, you know, in a professional way.
[01:05:35.320 --> 01:05:38.320]  Quit acting like that.
[01:05:38.320 --> 01:05:43.320]  Okay, I don't understand the point of the 1099.
[01:05:43.320 --> 01:05:51.320]  Well, here's the thing, the 1099 came in the name of one of the best deals.
[01:05:51.320 --> 01:05:56.320]  Hey, you know, my son is a 1099 non-employee compensation.
[01:05:56.320 --> 01:06:05.320]  Now he had used this company, I guess, to pay the rent to me, but this company never appears on any of these checks he sent me.
[01:06:05.320 --> 01:06:14.320]  So all of a sudden I'm getting a 1099 for last year, miscellaneous income, so now I got the IRS going to be on me at some point.
[01:06:14.320 --> 01:06:24.320]  So I'm thinking he's doing this in retaliation as to why I'm thinking this, but it just doesn't make, it's very strange that all of a sudden he sent me a 1099.
[01:06:24.320 --> 01:06:29.320]  Now I have no relationship with this company. My relationship is with him.
[01:06:29.320 --> 01:06:34.320]  I have no contract with this company that sent me this 1099 or anything.
[01:06:34.320 --> 01:06:48.320]  Well, you might send them a letter to cease and desist and admonish them not to file that 1099 with the IRS because you have no business with them.
[01:06:48.320 --> 01:07:01.320]  Okay. Now the other question is, one of the checks that he sent me for rent had the DBA of this company, apparently.
[01:07:01.320 --> 01:07:11.320]  Does that, does that, you know, what's my legal, I don't know the right word.
[01:07:11.320 --> 01:07:17.320]  Does he have any time to complain that, oh, you received a check from them so we have a relationship with that company?
[01:07:17.320 --> 01:07:23.320]  Okay, wait a minute. Is the check from them directly or are they from this guy?
[01:07:23.320 --> 01:07:35.320]  What is the company name? Well, actually, this company doesn't appear on any of these checks, but this company is one of his entities.
[01:07:35.320 --> 01:07:41.320]  Again, this, this company has never appeared anywhere in our relationship at all.
[01:07:41.320 --> 01:08:01.320]  So, so now he's paying you through a company. And if the 1099 shows anything more than that one check, then there's a form to file with the IRS for reporting IRS fraud.
[01:08:01.320 --> 01:08:13.320]  Yeah, that's what I was getting at. That might jerk a knot in his behind, but if you're trying to do a short sale to him, you probably don't want to get into too big a fight.
[01:08:13.320 --> 01:08:24.320]  And but the problem I have with this is I'm not very good at, at the IRS issue. That's not my area.
[01:08:24.320 --> 01:08:43.320]  So I really don't know how to what the real significance of the 1099 is, or more appropriately, what the significance would be of him filing a 1099 that was not accurate.
[01:08:43.320 --> 01:08:55.320]  Yeah, I don't know either. Maybe he's, because I haven't filed for like three or four years and he knows I haven't filed, not that I'm trying to avoid taxes. It's just stuff going on.
[01:08:55.320 --> 01:09:04.320]  I'm just okay. Let me just put that off to the side for a while. I've only owed some money some years, whatever the case may be, but I put that off.
[01:09:04.320 --> 01:09:07.320]  And he knows I haven't filed.
[01:09:07.320 --> 01:09:19.320]  Oh, so he's just trying to goad you. So you need to contact the IRS and say, I don't know what he's talking about. He sent me this 1099. Does the 1099 stayed in the mount?
[01:09:19.320 --> 01:09:22.320]  Yes, 5,000 over five grand.
[01:09:22.320 --> 01:09:29.320]  Yeah, you send it to them. I never received five grand from this company. I don't know what they're talking about.
[01:09:29.320 --> 01:09:42.320]  They're trying to defraud you on your taxes. And when he gets a call from the IRS wanting to know what's going on, because as far as I know, rent payments are not deductible.
[01:09:42.320 --> 01:09:46.320]  No, and this is a personal, he's living in.
[01:09:46.320 --> 01:09:56.320]  So he, or better yet, you might call him first and say, guy, you're stepping in at big time.
[01:09:56.320 --> 01:10:00.320]  You can't send it in email communication to that effect.
[01:10:00.320 --> 01:10:04.320]  Okay, you know, whatever.
[01:10:04.320 --> 01:10:07.320]  No quick answer.
[01:10:07.320 --> 01:10:18.320]  Well, if he doesn't give you a positive response, then go to the IRS with that. I think it's ins with 939 59 or 49 59.
[01:10:18.320 --> 01:10:28.320]  There's some form you can file to report fraud. And when he gets a call from the IRS, that'll get him real excited.
[01:10:28.320 --> 01:10:35.320]  Okay, yeah, because I'm going that angle. I think that's good. I'm going the political.
[01:10:35.320 --> 01:10:48.320]  Just give him answer to them. Because he's trying to get the IRS to pressure me, I guess, basically retaliation because of all the shenanigans he's starting to do and I'm starting to call him out on it.
[01:10:48.320 --> 01:10:51.320]  And all of a sudden he's just 1099.
[01:10:51.320 --> 01:10:58.320]  So this may this would probably get his attention.
[01:10:58.320 --> 01:11:11.320]  If he knows that the IRS has been alerted that these refer that the only relationship we had with this person is the renter and have no business relationship with him other than that.
[01:11:11.320 --> 01:11:18.320]  And rental payments are not deductible. Then that looks like tax fraud.
[01:11:18.320 --> 01:11:20.320]  Absolutely.
[01:11:20.320 --> 01:11:31.320]  So my concern is not necessarily the short bills because I'm just putting everything off.
[01:11:31.320 --> 01:11:40.320]  If I do this, do they send an investigator or something or just call him up?
[01:11:40.320 --> 01:11:49.320]  They'll probably call him first. But this sounds pretty serious. This could get real ugly for him.
[01:11:49.320 --> 01:11:54.320]  Good chance what it will do is put him on the list to get audited.
[01:11:54.320 --> 01:12:01.320]  Absolutely. And I know this is if you file fraudulent 1099, that's criminal.
[01:12:01.320 --> 01:12:07.320]  Yeah, that'll make him real unhappy.
[01:12:07.320 --> 01:12:12.320]  So thinking maybe I should give him a call and give me off.
[01:12:12.320 --> 01:12:14.320]  That would not bother me.
[01:12:14.320 --> 01:12:21.320]  Yeah, give him give him fair warning that, you know, he's he's stepping in real deep here.
[01:12:21.320 --> 01:12:30.320]  And if he's not careful, he might once the IRS gets on you, then you have a problem getting them off of you.
[01:12:30.320 --> 01:12:38.320]  And if they see evidence of inappropriate behavior in one place, they're going to look a lot harder in other places.
[01:12:38.320 --> 01:12:51.320]  And with the economic downturn and the government struggling for funds, you can expect these agents to be a lot more thorough.
[01:12:51.320 --> 01:12:56.320]  Okay. Sounds good. I appreciate your help.
[01:12:56.320 --> 01:13:00.320]  Okay. How are your foreclosure suits going?
[01:13:00.320 --> 01:13:10.320]  Okay. The reason I filed a BK to stop the sale recently is I've called you about these cases before.
[01:13:10.320 --> 01:13:16.320]  Did you file the BK as a chapter seven?
[01:13:16.320 --> 01:13:18.320]  Yes.
[01:13:18.320 --> 01:13:28.320]  Good. Good. We just had one in Arizona where his lawyer had filed the bankruptcy.
[01:13:28.320 --> 01:13:37.320]  Under chapter 13 and put down the property as under this on the secured list, but made a challenge.
[01:13:37.320 --> 01:13:43.320]  He, what do you call it? He challenged the debt.
[01:13:43.320 --> 01:13:48.320]  And the judge said, since it's on this form, it's it's secured.
[01:13:48.320 --> 01:13:55.320]  So the guy reopened his bankruptcy and put the put everything down is unsecured.
[01:13:55.320 --> 01:14:06.320]  The bank in a position and the bankruptcy court accepted it and put the bank in a position to where they had to come back and prove up agency standing capacity.
[01:14:06.320 --> 01:14:09.320]  They never showed up.
[01:14:09.320 --> 01:14:23.320]  Wow. He went, he went to the hearing and they wrote it all off and the bank contacted him and told him that his property had been permanently removed from the foreclosure sale list.
[01:14:23.320 --> 01:14:27.320]  It looks like he won the whole enchilada.
[01:14:27.320 --> 01:14:33.320]  Wow. And that was just a chapter seven, putting it down as unsecured. It wasn't an adversarial proceeding or anything.
[01:14:33.320 --> 01:14:37.320]  No, no adversarial proceeding, just unsecured.
[01:14:37.320 --> 01:14:40.320]  Oh, I'll make sure I do that.
[01:14:40.320 --> 01:14:53.320]  Yeah, make sure it's unsecured because what it does is puts all the creditors that are on that list, if they claim they're secured, they have to come and prove that to the court.
[01:14:53.320 --> 01:14:55.320]  Absolutely.
[01:14:55.320 --> 01:14:58.320]  And these guys couldn't prove it to the court.
[01:14:58.320 --> 01:15:02.320]  So they didn't even bother to show up.
[01:15:02.320 --> 01:15:07.320]  Just wrote it off. So that may be a really good strategy.
[01:15:07.320 --> 01:15:10.320]  I appreciate that.
[01:15:10.320 --> 01:15:20.320]  Okay, good luck with that and stay after them because the one who tends to always win is the one who never quits.
[01:15:20.320 --> 01:15:26.320]  And I've been working on this research map that I've put together.
[01:15:26.320 --> 01:15:37.320]  And as I looked at it, frankly, even though I put it together, I look at it and I'm amazed at all of the things you can do to beat these guys up.
[01:15:37.320 --> 01:15:41.320]  No matter what they do, dismissed, dismissed with prejudice.
[01:15:41.320 --> 01:15:46.320]  We don't care. We got lots of things we can come back after them with.
[01:15:46.320 --> 01:15:50.320]  So if anybody's got a mortgage issue, take them on.
[01:15:50.320 --> 01:16:00.320]  The only way you're going to get any remedy at all is sue them or if you're in a judicial state like Florida, then they have to sue you.
[01:16:00.320 --> 01:16:02.320]  You got them in court.
[01:16:02.320 --> 01:16:10.320]  Now you got lots of stuff you can do to them and you can keep doing it to them till they get old.
[01:16:10.320 --> 01:16:13.320]  I had someone call me from Houston.
[01:16:13.320 --> 01:16:19.320]  They had been fighting their foreclosure for 18 years.
[01:16:19.320 --> 01:16:26.320]  They were running out of options, so they were going to the federal side.
[01:16:26.320 --> 01:16:29.320]  They'll be there another 10, 15 years.
[01:16:29.320 --> 01:16:31.320]  Okay.
[01:16:31.320 --> 01:16:33.320]  Robin, thank you for calling.
[01:16:33.320 --> 01:16:35.320]  We're about to go to break.
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[01:19:55.320 --> 01:20:01.320]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rood of Law Radio.
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[01:20:07.320 --> 01:20:13.320]  And on the break, I've just got some absolutely wonderful news.
[01:20:13.320 --> 01:20:23.320]  When I first started this about four years ago, I had a friend who was facing an eviction hearing.
[01:20:23.320 --> 01:20:32.320]  And he came to me and knew I was researching the foreclosure issue and needed a lawsuit.
[01:20:32.320 --> 01:20:37.320]  And I told him that I'm not ready yet. I haven't finished my research.
[01:20:37.320 --> 01:20:40.320]  And he told me he didn't have time for me to finish his research.
[01:20:40.320 --> 01:20:43.320]  He had an eviction hearing coming out.
[01:20:43.320 --> 01:20:49.320]  So I went on the internet and pulled out a bunch of stuff off the internet
[01:20:49.320 --> 01:20:53.320]  and stuck it all together into a suit and he filed it.
[01:20:53.320 --> 01:20:59.320]  They went into the JP Court with a challenge subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:20:59.320 --> 01:21:05.320]  The JP looked at it and said, well, there's a tidal issue here. I can't hear this.
[01:21:05.320 --> 01:21:08.320]  Tossed him out of the eviction court.
[01:21:08.320 --> 01:21:15.320]  So the other side, the lawyer filed a response and it essentially said,
[01:21:15.320 --> 01:21:19.320]  Your Honor, this suits a piece of crap.
[01:21:19.320 --> 01:21:25.320]  And the judge responded saying, you're right, this suits a piece of crap.
[01:21:25.320 --> 01:21:27.320]  Amend it.
[01:21:27.320 --> 01:21:31.320]  So that took about 90 days or so to get all that done.
[01:21:31.320 --> 01:21:39.320]  And we rewrote it and better this time because I had more time to do some digging and scratching and file that one.
[01:21:39.320 --> 01:21:42.320]  And the lawyer came back again and said, Your Honor, this suits a piece of crap.
[01:21:42.320 --> 01:21:46.320]  Amend it again. So we amending it again.
[01:21:46.320 --> 01:21:53.320]  The third time it took, that was four years ago.
[01:21:53.320 --> 01:21:59.320]  And I just heard today they won the whole Lanchilada.
[01:21:59.320 --> 01:22:01.320]  Now they won and I didn't.
[01:22:01.320 --> 01:22:04.320]  Yeah, but they didn't win on that suit though.
[01:22:04.320 --> 01:22:09.320]  That's what I just said. Let me finish.
[01:22:09.320 --> 01:22:12.320]  They did it. I didn't. That's what I meant.
[01:22:12.320 --> 01:22:16.320]  They went on from what I gave them.
[01:22:16.320 --> 01:22:22.320]  They went on to other things and really worked at this issue.
[01:22:22.320 --> 01:22:25.320]  And this goes exactly to what I was saying before the break.
[01:22:25.320 --> 01:22:28.320]  The ones who win and the ones who never get up give up.
[01:22:28.320 --> 01:22:36.320]  And I've talked to them at times and they were so frustrated and so dejected because everything seemed to go against them.
[01:22:36.320 --> 01:22:40.320]  But they just kept after it.
[01:22:40.320 --> 01:22:44.320]  And Dave, do you want to kind of give a kind of a synopsis of what we know on today?
[01:22:44.320 --> 01:22:49.320]  Yeah, it's a short synopsis and I may not have all the details exactly right.
[01:22:49.320 --> 01:22:55.320]  But eventually that one lawsuit that they filed, they ended up losing the suit.
[01:22:55.320 --> 01:23:01.320]  But they ended up getting an attorney, believe it or not, that actually was helpful.
[01:23:01.320 --> 01:23:17.320]  And there was another attorney that filed suit against them, purporting to represent some client that was trying to foreclose on them again or something like that.
[01:23:17.320 --> 01:23:22.320]  And what ended up happening was the company had gone out of business.
[01:23:22.320 --> 01:23:24.320]  It didn't exist anymore.
[01:23:24.320 --> 01:23:30.320]  They weren't registered to do business in Texas on the Texas Secretary of State website and this and that.
[01:23:30.320 --> 01:23:36.320]  Well, it was obvious that this slime bag attorney did not have a client.
[01:23:36.320 --> 01:23:37.320]  Okay.
[01:23:37.320 --> 01:23:45.320]  And so at the hearing a couple of months ago, it was very clear that the attorney really didn't have a client.
[01:23:45.320 --> 01:23:54.320]  And so our friend came with all this documentation with his attorney, of course, his attorney was running the case at the time.
[01:23:54.320 --> 01:24:01.320]  And all these documents were being submitted trying to, you know, they were wanting to submit these documents into evidence to show that this client did not exist.
[01:24:01.320 --> 01:24:07.320]  And that indeed this attorney did not even have a client, which is, you know, baritry.
[01:24:07.320 --> 01:24:17.320]  So at any rate, as all these documents are being submitted, you know, those other attorneys objecting to this or that saying, oh, this is here.
[01:24:17.320 --> 01:24:27.320]  They're saying, you know, there's no way to verify this with the Texas Secretary of State because they don't have affidavits from the Secretary of State's office and blah, blah, blah.
[01:24:27.320 --> 01:24:29.320]  And the judge is like, oh, really?
[01:24:29.320 --> 01:24:31.320]  Well, let's just see.
[01:24:31.320 --> 01:24:39.320]  And so the judge has his computer at the bench that has internet and is like, we're just going to get it online on the Texas Secretary of State website right now.
[01:24:39.320 --> 01:24:41.320]  We're just going to verify this.
[01:24:41.320 --> 01:24:49.320]  Oh, yeah, well, indeed, this entity is not authorized to do business in the state of Texas.
[01:24:49.320 --> 01:24:53.320]  No mention of this entity at all in the Texas Secretary of State website.
[01:24:53.320 --> 01:24:55.320]  And so all these things on and on and on.
[01:24:55.320 --> 01:25:07.320]  The age of the internet has really, really changed the nature of litigation because in the past those objections probably would have stuck.
[01:25:07.320 --> 01:25:33.320]  But since the judge could look up all these things online right there in the middle of the hearing, every single document that our friend and his attorney attempted to submit to get admitted into evidence actually got admitted into evidence that this attorney had no client.
[01:25:33.320 --> 01:25:39.320]  Not only had no client, but the suppose that the client did not even exist.
[01:25:39.320 --> 01:25:40.320]  Okay.
[01:25:40.320 --> 01:25:51.320]  And so after like four or five of these documents get admitted into evidence and the judge is looking at this guy like, you're about to get sanctioned, buddy.
[01:25:51.320 --> 01:25:55.320]  This slime bag attorney goes, you're on her objection.
[01:25:55.320 --> 01:25:57.320]  This is ambush litigation.
[01:25:57.320 --> 01:25:58.320]  I object.
[01:25:58.320 --> 01:26:00.320]  I had no time to prepare for this.
[01:26:00.320 --> 01:26:04.320]  And so the judge goes, oh, well, that's okay.
[01:26:04.320 --> 01:26:08.320]  How about we can reschedule this hearing?
[01:26:08.320 --> 01:26:11.320]  Are you agreeable to reschedule the hearing?
[01:26:11.320 --> 01:26:13.320]  Ms. So-and-So talking to the other attorney.
[01:26:13.320 --> 01:26:15.320]  And she's like, sure, no problem.
[01:26:15.320 --> 01:26:16.320]  We can reschedule.
[01:26:16.320 --> 01:26:18.320]  And so they're like, how about the justice?
[01:26:18.320 --> 01:26:22.320]  How about tomorrow and the slime bag attorney?
[01:26:22.320 --> 01:26:23.320]  Oh, I don't know.
[01:26:23.320 --> 01:26:24.320]  That's not enough time.
[01:26:24.320 --> 01:26:26.320]  Well, how about Thursday?
[01:26:26.320 --> 01:26:27.320]  Oh, okay.
[01:26:27.320 --> 01:26:28.320]  Well, that's fine.
[01:26:28.320 --> 01:26:31.320]  But anyways, it went on and on like that.
[01:26:31.320 --> 01:26:32.320]  There was scheduled conflicts.
[01:26:32.320 --> 01:26:40.320]  Well, finally, they ended up rescheduling the hearing for like six weeks out after that, six to eight weeks.
[01:26:40.320 --> 01:26:42.320]  I can't remember how long it was.
[01:26:42.320 --> 01:26:56.320]  Well, get this, the day before the hearing, the slime bag attorney filed a motion to dismiss his own case with prejudice.
[01:26:56.320 --> 01:26:57.320]  They won.
[01:26:57.320 --> 01:26:58.320]  They have the house.
[01:26:58.320 --> 01:27:01.320]  And it is a done deal.
[01:27:01.320 --> 01:27:16.320]  And it's only going to be another, I think, 60 days before the statute of limitations runs out for anybody being able to try to foreclose on it again, ever again, over this issue, this particular issue that they were dealing with.
[01:27:16.320 --> 01:27:19.320]  And after that, he's launching his federal quiet title suit.
[01:27:19.320 --> 01:27:22.320]  And then the whole thing will be over for good.
[01:27:22.320 --> 01:27:23.320]  And they have the house.
[01:27:23.320 --> 01:27:25.320]  So that's wonderful.
[01:27:25.320 --> 01:27:27.320]  That's it in a nutshell.
[01:27:27.320 --> 01:27:32.320]  And we should probably get this person on to more accurately tell the story.
[01:27:32.320 --> 01:27:44.320]  I was just looking up his e-mail to send him a really, really nasty e-mail for not telling me this so I could get him on there so he could crow like a bandit.
[01:27:44.320 --> 01:27:53.320]  Yeah, we need to get him on the air to crow big time because he, after much expense, after doing a lot pro se, after doing a lot with an attorney.
[01:27:53.320 --> 01:27:57.320]  So, hey, you know, sometimes having an attorney isn't too bad.
[01:27:57.320 --> 01:28:05.320]  The only thing the attorney didn't do that he really wanted her to do was to holler out in court.
[01:28:05.320 --> 01:28:09.320]  Your Honor, opposing counsel is committing baritry.
[01:28:09.320 --> 01:28:11.320]  He has no clients.
[01:28:11.320 --> 01:28:13.320]  And she wouldn't do that.
[01:28:13.320 --> 01:28:16.320]  And after the hearing, our friend was like, why didn't you do this?
[01:28:16.320 --> 01:28:18.320]  Why didn't you say something about this?
[01:28:18.320 --> 01:28:20.320]  And she goes, are you kidding me?
[01:28:20.320 --> 01:28:23.320]  I've only had my bar card for two years.
[01:28:23.320 --> 01:28:25.320]  I am not going after another attorney.
[01:28:25.320 --> 01:28:27.320]  You've got me?
[01:28:27.320 --> 01:28:33.320]  So she's gladly refused to go after another attorney, but at least they won the case.
[01:28:33.320 --> 01:28:38.320]  But the door now, the door is absolutely open for him to go in.
[01:28:38.320 --> 01:28:39.320]  Oh, yeah, yeah.
[01:28:39.320 --> 01:28:42.320]  He can go after the other attorney now and he will.
[01:28:42.320 --> 01:28:43.320]  He will.
[01:28:43.320 --> 01:28:44.320]  That's in the works.
[01:28:44.320 --> 01:28:50.320]  This guy, you know, I've talked to him off and on this whole time.
[01:28:50.320 --> 01:28:55.320]  And if anybody ever earned a win, he earned this.
[01:28:55.320 --> 01:28:58.320]  Absolutely, absolutely.
[01:28:58.320 --> 01:29:00.320]  Yes, they really struggled.
[01:29:00.320 --> 01:29:05.320]  He worked constantly to find out what to do and how to do.
[01:29:05.320 --> 01:29:11.320]  And he wound up helping a lot of other people with the knowledge that he gained.
[01:29:11.320 --> 01:29:14.320]  And here he comes and pulls it off.
[01:29:14.320 --> 01:29:20.320]  And for me, it's great because he is the first guy I ever helped with one of these issues.
[01:29:20.320 --> 01:29:28.320]  And like a lot of people that have got in the door, they very quickly graduate away from me.
[01:29:28.320 --> 01:29:30.320]  And that was wonderful.
[01:29:30.320 --> 01:29:37.320]  And he picked that up and ran with it and I could not be more pleased.
[01:29:37.320 --> 01:29:40.320]  I'm very happy for them.
[01:29:40.320 --> 01:29:41.320]  Yeah.
[01:29:41.320 --> 01:29:45.320]  Okay, this is Randy Kelton, Debbie Stephens.
[01:29:45.320 --> 01:29:50.320]  We'll allow radio or call in number 512-646-1984.
[01:29:50.320 --> 01:29:51.320]  Give us a call.
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[01:31:12.320 --> 01:31:16.320]  But think twice before redecorating, changing the thermostat or modulating your voice.
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[01:31:47.320 --> 01:31:52.320]  Some of these columns were ripped up, shredded, tossed around.
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[01:33:26.320 --> 01:33:55.320]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Debbie Stevens, Rule of Law Radio.
[01:33:55.320 --> 01:34:00.320]  And we're going to go to Tony in Illinois.
[01:34:00.320 --> 01:34:06.320]  Hello, Mr. Tony. How is your issue going?
[01:34:06.320 --> 01:34:17.320]  Well, the lady I was originally helping, we're not getting in until April, so there remains to be seen.
[01:34:17.320 --> 01:34:29.320]  And we're just going to do, like I said before, we're just going to try to have the motion to strike the blank and dismiss the foreclosure heard again.
[01:34:29.320 --> 01:34:41.320]  I did, however, I've been working on a guy for a few weeks. He was being foreclosed on, not as a resident, but he was going to do a deed in lieu.
[01:34:41.320 --> 01:34:55.320]  And finally, he quick claimed to me and I'm doing an option for his wife.
[01:34:55.320 --> 01:35:13.320]  And then that is his wife's share of the property, not his wife. And on this particular issue, it's affidavit of lost assignment. So we'll see how that goes.
[01:35:13.320 --> 01:35:18.320]  So I'm doing a little digging. I have to, I might see it.
[01:35:18.320 --> 01:35:24.320]  Okay, they have, the other side filed an affidavit of lost assignment?
[01:35:24.320 --> 01:35:28.320]  The publisher did.
[01:35:28.320 --> 01:35:34.320]  Are they kidding me? They didn't get another one.
[01:35:34.320 --> 01:35:35.320]  Huh?
[01:35:35.320 --> 01:35:40.320]  Why didn't they get another one?
[01:35:40.320 --> 01:35:44.320]  Well, basically saying they don't have it.
[01:35:44.320 --> 01:35:55.320]  Now, the question for the court is they lost the assignment. There never was an assignment until it was filed in the county record.
[01:35:55.320 --> 01:36:04.320]  So if one was actually produced, what did the guy lose it on the way to the clerk's office to file it?
[01:36:04.320 --> 01:36:05.320]  I don't know.
[01:36:05.320 --> 01:36:17.320]  And if he did, if he did, if he lost it on the way to the recorders office, it would seem like he could just go to the same people and get another one and take it down and file it.
[01:36:17.320 --> 01:36:28.320]  This notice of lost assignment is, what's the term?
[01:36:28.320 --> 01:36:34.320]  They're not speaking with candor to the court. This is unreasonable.
[01:36:34.320 --> 01:36:42.320]  No, no, no, I'm lost the exact term, but this is horsemen. I think, oh, here it is. The right term is horse manure.
[01:36:42.320 --> 01:36:49.320]  I understand. This was filed in the case. It's actually been continued for about a year and a half.
[01:36:49.320 --> 01:37:01.320]  And I think the wording in the judge's order is something like for them to give time for prove up or something like that.
[01:37:01.320 --> 01:37:11.320]  But that's not, it wasn't the plaintiff that filed this in the recorders office. This is another entity, this is Awkwin.
[01:37:11.320 --> 01:37:16.320]  You know, they were servicers, whereas HSBC is the plaintiff.
[01:37:16.320 --> 01:37:22.320]  Okay, so an Awkwin filed this? Sue Awkwin.
[01:37:22.320 --> 01:37:30.320]  And he was actually going to do the deed in lieu with Awkwin.
[01:37:30.320 --> 01:37:36.320]  And if he's transferred it to you, get Awkwin to say something to you about it.
[01:37:36.320 --> 01:37:43.320]  Because if you've taken a quit claim, well, actually you still have his claim.
[01:37:43.320 --> 01:37:54.320]  You can sue Awkwin, sue them directly, claiming that, claiming fraud on their part.
[01:37:54.320 --> 01:38:01.320]  That they attempted to collect money on a debt to which they had no authority to collect.
[01:38:01.320 --> 01:38:04.320]  Yeah, that's a violation, right?
[01:38:04.320 --> 01:38:14.320]  Pardon me? Yeah, when you, no, they would already had a validation if they're trying to foreclose and they have filed this document.
[01:38:14.320 --> 01:38:17.320]  This is an absolutely absurd document.
[01:38:17.320 --> 01:38:23.320]  No, no, they're not, they're not the ones that are foreclosing actually.
[01:38:23.320 --> 01:38:25.320]  And I don't know if there's a relationship.
[01:38:25.320 --> 01:38:27.320]  Okay, wait a minute.
[01:38:27.320 --> 01:38:32.320]  Hold on, hold on.
[01:38:32.320 --> 01:38:34.320]  Hold on, somebody stop talking.
[01:38:34.320 --> 01:38:35.320]  Okay, go ahead.
[01:38:35.320 --> 01:38:43.320]  These delays, you always wait for the other person to talk and both of us start talking at the same time and both of us stop at the same time.
[01:38:43.320 --> 01:38:44.320]  Okay, go ahead.
[01:38:44.320 --> 01:38:46.320]  And then we start at the same time.
[01:38:46.320 --> 01:38:48.320]  We need some protocol for this.
[01:38:48.320 --> 01:39:02.320]  Anyway, what does Awkwin, if they're the servicer, and they're the ones that filed this notice of lost assignment, what do they have to do with anything?
[01:39:02.320 --> 01:39:03.320]  That's a good question.
[01:39:03.320 --> 01:39:08.320]  And as far as being a servicer, I don't think he ever made a payment to Awkwin.
[01:39:08.320 --> 01:39:10.320]  The original lender was...
[01:39:10.320 --> 01:39:21.320]  So what did Awkwin do in order to get him to agree to a deed in lieu?
[01:39:21.320 --> 01:39:23.320]  They must have contacted him somehow.
[01:39:23.320 --> 01:39:27.320]  I think he'd been sending him letters every month.
[01:39:27.320 --> 01:39:30.320]  Get the letters from him.
[01:39:30.320 --> 01:39:33.320]  This is...
[01:39:33.320 --> 01:39:35.320]  Go ahead.
[01:39:35.320 --> 01:39:43.320]  Another thing is, he told me that he asked them who owns it now, and they said they don't know.
[01:39:43.320 --> 01:39:49.320]  And I told them, see if you can get them to pass that to you in writing.
[01:39:49.320 --> 01:39:53.320]  You can sue them directly.
[01:39:53.320 --> 01:39:56.320]  Here's the deal with fraud.
[01:39:56.320 --> 01:40:06.320]  In a matter of fraud, you do not claim the amount you were actually defrauded of.
[01:40:06.320 --> 01:40:14.320]  You claim the amount you would have been defrauded of had the perpetrator's plan ran to fruition.
[01:40:14.320 --> 01:40:17.320]  But you don't sue for that amount.
[01:40:17.320 --> 01:40:20.320]  You sue for triple.
[01:40:20.320 --> 01:40:40.320]  So you sue Awkwin for three times the amount of the original principal for fraud, for attempting to fraudulently secure a title to a property to which they had no claim.
[01:40:40.320 --> 01:40:47.320]  This is what the requirement to file in the court record is all about.
[01:40:47.320 --> 01:40:49.320]  That's the whole purpose of it.
[01:40:49.320 --> 01:41:02.320]  Somebody can't come out of the blue and say, you know, you have to pay me this money on this claim, or I'll take your property when they have no claim.
[01:41:02.320 --> 01:41:11.320]  This sounds, regardless of what the foreclosure folks do, you may get the property paid for anyway.
[01:41:11.320 --> 01:41:21.320]  And then go down to the district attorney and run the routine on the prosecuting attorney.
[01:41:21.320 --> 01:41:23.320]  And you have fun with that.
[01:41:23.320 --> 01:41:31.320]  This is, you know, if you've been prosecuting it, it's a really traumatic experience.
[01:41:31.320 --> 01:41:40.320]  But when you're the prosecutor instead of the prosecutor, and that's a whole other animal.
[01:41:40.320 --> 01:41:52.320]  And the one thing you find out about lawyers, when lawyers are put on the sharp end of what they do, they really suck.
[01:41:52.320 --> 01:41:55.320]  You get a lawyer on the stand as a witness.
[01:41:55.320 --> 01:41:56.320]  They really suck.
[01:41:56.320 --> 01:41:59.320]  They screw themselves regular.
[01:41:59.320 --> 01:42:09.320]  And when you start after this prosecutor, he is not going to be a happy camper, especially if you just run the routine with him.
[01:42:09.320 --> 01:42:18.320]  If you were listening earlier and heard him run from the first call, he's just running the routine on him.
[01:42:18.320 --> 01:42:25.320]  And everything they do jacks it up a little more and creates a lot of politics.
[01:42:25.320 --> 01:42:29.320]  And this is everything yours is in the state.
[01:42:29.320 --> 01:42:31.320]  So you go in and file with the prosecutor.
[01:42:31.320 --> 01:42:37.320]  When he refuses to act, you file with a district judge in his capacity as a magistrate.
[01:42:37.320 --> 01:42:42.320]  When he refuses to act, file with the attorney general against the district judge.
[01:42:42.320 --> 01:42:54.320]  And then when he refused to act, you come back and file with the district attorney against all of them and ask the district attorney to appoint an attorney pro tem to prosecute all of them.
[01:42:54.320 --> 01:42:57.320]  These guys are really going to be unhappy.
[01:42:57.320 --> 01:42:59.320]  You're in Chicago.
[01:42:59.320 --> 01:43:01.320]  I grew up in Chicago.
[01:43:01.320 --> 01:43:09.320]  The Chicago is absolutely the epitome of politics, dirty politics.
[01:43:09.320 --> 01:43:23.320]  And when you have criminal charges against these criminal public officials, they know that their criminal opponents are going to use those against them in their next election.
[01:43:23.320 --> 01:43:25.320]  You'll get some politics.
[01:43:25.320 --> 01:43:36.320]  Now, should I use that affidavit of law assignment against HSBC or should I just have you bring that up?
[01:43:36.320 --> 01:43:38.320]  Hold on, hold on.
[01:43:38.320 --> 01:43:40.320]  Let's pick this up on the other side.
[01:43:40.320 --> 01:43:41.320]  This is Randy Kelton.
[01:43:41.320 --> 01:43:43.320]  Denver Stevens, Rural Law Radio.
[01:43:43.320 --> 01:43:47.320]  I call in number 512-646-1984.
[01:43:47.320 --> 01:43:50.320]  We're talking to Tony in Illinois.
[01:43:50.320 --> 01:43:59.320]  We'll be right back on the other side.
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[01:46:52.320 --> 01:46:59.320]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, rule of law radio, and we're talking to Tony in Illinois.
[01:46:59.320 --> 01:47:03.320]  Okay, Tony, so that is an interesting issue.
[01:47:03.320 --> 01:47:17.320]  This is, it appears like a totally side issue, but how did HSBC get to foreclosing?
[01:47:17.320 --> 01:47:21.320]  Were they the original lender?
[01:47:21.320 --> 01:47:25.320]  No, it was Dean Witter.
[01:47:25.320 --> 01:47:32.320]  Is there an assignment from Dean Witter to HSBC?
[01:47:32.320 --> 01:47:53.320]  There is not, and actually, Aquinn, in that affidavit of lost assignment, says that HSBC, no, Dean Witter assigned it to HSBC, and that was lost.
[01:47:53.320 --> 01:48:07.320]  And then there's a second affidavit of lost assignment saying HSBC assigned it to the parent company of the truck.
[01:48:07.320 --> 01:48:31.320]  So HSBC is filing as trustee for Sequoia Mortgage Truck, and that's who Aquinn was claiming, but then when, even when, you know, this seller, I guess you could refer to him as was, it was talking to Aquinn, they told him that they don't know who the owner is.
[01:48:31.320 --> 01:48:44.320]  Okay, question. What does Illinois law say about who can make a claim against real property?
[01:48:44.320 --> 01:49:06.320]  Okay, let me preface that. In Texas, we have a statute, 13.001 property code that says a claim not properly filed in the county record, not properly authorized or proven and filed, a property filed in the county record is void as to the claimant.
[01:49:06.320 --> 01:49:13.320]  You have to have a similar statute in Illinois.
[01:49:13.320 --> 01:49:34.320]  You need to find that statute and then do a case law search on it. See if anywhere the courts have said, yeah, that's what the statute says, but if you just come in and say, well, I lost it on the way to the clerk's office, well, that's okay, you can make your claim anyway.
[01:49:34.320 --> 01:49:41.320]  That would completely undermine the whole purpose of the county registrar's office.
[01:49:41.320 --> 01:49:54.320]  I can guarantee you, you are going to have that statute that says a claim must be filed, and there's going to be no way for them to make the claim without it.
[01:49:54.320 --> 01:49:57.320]  You need to find that statute.
[01:49:57.320 --> 01:50:09.320]  I'm looking at 2005 Illinois code, Chapter 765 property, but I haven't been through it, so I probably shouldn't do that on air.
[01:50:09.320 --> 01:50:19.320]  The county clerk or their registrar of deeds in Texas, that would be the county clerk, but it's not that way in all states.
[01:50:19.320 --> 01:50:33.320]  Call whoever handles the registrar of deeds office and ask them where the statute is that requires people to file stuff with your office.
[01:50:33.320 --> 01:50:42.320]  Or if there's not one that requires it, where is the one that addresses that issue that gives people reason to file?
[01:50:42.320 --> 01:50:46.320]  If he's in Texas, you're not required to file.
[01:50:46.320 --> 01:50:49.320]  They're saying, you don't have to file anything if you don't want to.
[01:50:49.320 --> 01:50:51.320]  You can screw yourself.
[01:50:51.320 --> 01:50:54.320]  That's perfectly legal.
[01:50:54.320 --> 01:50:57.320]  This is the consequence if you don't.
[01:50:57.320 --> 01:51:06.320]  But Illinois is going to have one or the other, either a requirement or a stipulation that if you don't, you have no claim.
[01:51:06.320 --> 01:51:11.320]  The clerk can probably tell you which one that is right off the top of your head.
[01:51:11.320 --> 01:51:15.320]  That's what you have to go into court with.
[01:51:15.320 --> 01:51:20.320]  Against HSBC, against Aquin, whoever.
[01:51:20.320 --> 01:51:26.320]  And I suggest you file criminal charges against the lawyers for HSBC.
[01:51:26.320 --> 01:51:30.320]  They don't have an assignment in the record.
[01:51:30.320 --> 01:51:41.320]  And you go in and find that the law actually requires them to have that in the record in order to have a claim that they're trying to steal your property.
[01:51:41.320 --> 01:51:53.320]  Just because they're a major bank, you might go to remediesandreadestate.com, click on the free forensic analysis.
[01:51:53.320 --> 01:51:59.320]  And on the right-hand side, the second item down, click on that.
[01:51:59.320 --> 01:52:07.320]  And there's a section in there on drug cartel money laundering.
[01:52:07.320 --> 01:52:11.320]  You'll find HSBC in there.
[01:52:11.320 --> 01:52:13.320]  Oh yeah, I know all about it.
[01:52:13.320 --> 01:52:14.320]  Okay.
[01:52:14.320 --> 01:52:17.320]  That needs to be brought into court.
[01:52:17.320 --> 01:52:20.320]  That's collateral asopo.
[01:52:20.320 --> 01:52:33.320]  You bring that into court in order to show that nothing HSBC says can be accepted as prima facie evidence.
[01:52:33.320 --> 01:52:44.320]  Because according to this prior adjudication, they cannot be construed as a credible witness.
[01:52:44.320 --> 01:52:50.320]  They're collateral is stopped from claiming to be a credible witness.
[01:52:50.320 --> 01:52:55.320]  Therefore, they must prove up their accusations.
[01:52:55.320 --> 01:52:59.320]  And absent proof, they're trying to steal the property.
[01:52:59.320 --> 01:53:02.320]  And that's criminal, even if it's a big bank.
[01:53:02.320 --> 01:53:09.320]  You don't go after the big bank because corporations can't commit crimes.
[01:53:09.320 --> 01:53:13.320]  Living, breathing, human beings commit crimes.
[01:53:13.320 --> 01:53:19.320]  And you don't even know if HSBC has anything to do with this.
[01:53:19.320 --> 01:53:31.320]  You only know that some lawyer brought a document down and filed it in the court and said that somebody had something, that the HBC had something to do with this.
[01:53:31.320 --> 01:53:34.320]  And said that I'm representing HSBC.
[01:53:34.320 --> 01:53:36.320]  That's all you really know.
[01:53:36.320 --> 01:53:39.320]  You don't know if it really is representing them or not.
[01:53:39.320 --> 01:53:43.320]  This is what we talked about earlier here in Texas.
[01:53:43.320 --> 01:53:45.320]  That was the issue before the court.
[01:53:45.320 --> 01:53:55.320]  A lawyer was trying to foreclose on a property for a company that didn't exist.
[01:53:55.320 --> 01:53:57.320]  He needs to go to prison.
[01:53:57.320 --> 01:54:04.320]  If you tried that crap, they put you in prison.
[01:54:04.320 --> 01:54:09.320]  I see one of the foreclosure mails that's doing that foreclosure.
[01:54:09.320 --> 01:54:12.320]  Wait, say that again?
[01:54:12.320 --> 01:54:16.320]  I said it's one of the big foreclosure mails and she dies of it's doing the foreclosure.
[01:54:16.320 --> 01:54:17.320]  Good.
[01:54:17.320 --> 01:54:20.320]  File criminally against that lawyer.
[01:54:20.320 --> 01:54:21.320]  Personally.
[01:54:21.320 --> 01:54:24.320]  And then run the routine on the prosecutor.
[01:54:24.320 --> 01:54:26.320]  He's going to be talking to these foreclosures.
[01:54:26.320 --> 01:54:28.320]  He'll say, what is going on guys?
[01:54:28.320 --> 01:54:29.320]  You're getting me in trouble.
[01:54:29.320 --> 01:54:30.320]  Do something.
[01:54:30.320 --> 01:54:38.320]  The prosecutor, you could well have one that's had enough grief from the foreclosure issue.
[01:54:38.320 --> 01:54:42.320]  That he may want to make some public statements.
[01:54:42.320 --> 01:54:44.320]  Everything's political.
[01:54:44.320 --> 01:54:54.320]  If you get all over him and create negative, potential negative political influence against him.
[01:54:54.320 --> 01:54:59.320]  He may be looking at this coming up at his next bid for a reelection.
[01:54:59.320 --> 01:55:04.320]  And he's going to want the public on his side, not against him.
[01:55:04.320 --> 01:55:15.320]  So you give him a real good reason to go to these lawyers and say, guys, you better make this go away.
[01:55:15.320 --> 01:55:21.320]  I'm not going to lose my office to protect you.
[01:55:21.320 --> 01:55:25.320]  This is how we make these things work.
[01:55:25.320 --> 01:55:27.320]  And you're at a great position.
[01:55:27.320 --> 01:55:35.320]  After awkward, awkward is really hanging in the breeze to lost assignments.
[01:55:35.320 --> 01:55:44.320]  And where in law is there an exemption for a lost assignment?
[01:55:44.320 --> 01:55:53.320]  I would take that as stipulation from the other side that they left standing.
[01:55:53.320 --> 01:55:57.320]  They've admitted that they have no assignment.
[01:55:57.320 --> 01:55:59.320]  They're claiming they lost it.
[01:55:59.320 --> 01:56:08.320]  But, you know, that's like me saying, well, when I shot that guy three times, I didn't know the gun was loaded.
[01:56:08.320 --> 01:56:17.320]  Of course, going to look at that, they're going to say, so you pulled the trigger, whether you knew it was loaded or not.
[01:56:17.320 --> 01:56:24.320]  These guys pulled the trigger on the foreclosure when they knew it was when they knew the gun wasn't loaded.
[01:56:24.320 --> 01:56:34.320]  So saying that they have a lost assignment, that don't mean anything.
[01:56:34.320 --> 01:56:37.320]  Right. Now, I said it's been continued.
[01:56:37.320 --> 01:56:41.320]  The case itself has been continued for a year and a half.
[01:56:41.320 --> 01:56:53.320]  And there's about six to eight of these orders. And it basically says plaintiff requesting additional time to resent the necessary documents and affidavits to approve up on the court being advised in the premises.
[01:56:53.320 --> 01:56:59.320]  So it's been continued. And this was like six to eight times over the past year and a half.
[01:56:59.320 --> 01:57:08.320]  Do you have any documentation that has been filed by these folks in the county record?
[01:57:08.320 --> 01:57:12.320]  An appointment of substitute trustees, something like that.
[01:57:12.320 --> 01:57:13.320]  No, you don't have that.
[01:57:13.320 --> 01:57:19.320]  Simon, I don't think there was anything besides the affidavit of lost assignment filed by Auckland.
[01:57:19.320 --> 01:57:25.320]  Okay, then. Is MERS included in the documentation?
[01:57:25.320 --> 01:57:28.320]  I couldn't tell you that off the top of my head.
[01:57:28.320 --> 01:57:29.320]  Okay.
[01:57:29.320 --> 01:57:31.320]  Is it an FHA law?
[01:57:31.320 --> 01:57:35.320]  I couldn't tell you. No, it's not. It wouldn't be.
[01:57:35.320 --> 01:57:50.320]  Okay. It does. Does it have the paragraph that authorizes the lender to sell a portion of the note or the entire note together with this security instrument?
[01:57:50.320 --> 01:57:55.320]  Without having it in front of me, I would think it yet.
[01:57:55.320 --> 01:57:57.320]  So I'll have that second for me.
[01:57:57.320 --> 01:58:04.320]  Good. Good. Okay. Read that mortgage document three times.
[01:58:04.320 --> 01:58:08.320]  The third time will go quickly, but you need to read it three times.
[01:58:08.320 --> 01:58:13.320]  And then all of these, the whole thing will start fitting together in your mind.
[01:58:13.320 --> 01:58:21.320]  And you'll be amazed at, read it for the purpose of finding breaches of contract on the part of the lender.
[01:58:21.320 --> 01:58:24.320]  Okay. We are out of time.
[01:58:24.320 --> 01:58:25.320]  Thanks a lot.
[01:58:25.320 --> 01:58:27.320]  Thank you. Thanks for calling in.
[01:58:27.320 --> 01:58:28.320]  This is Randy Kelton.
[01:58:28.320 --> 01:58:30.320]  Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig.
[01:58:30.320 --> 01:58:37.320]  We will be back tomorrow night, and I hope to have a guest who does securities analysis.
[01:58:37.320 --> 01:58:43.320]  And Tony, he is from Chicago, and they do really nice work.
[01:58:43.320 --> 01:58:45.320]  So you're going to want to be here tomorrow night.
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