[00:00.000 --> 00:09.440]  A judge has imposed a lifetime driving ban on a 17-year-old boy after a serious accident
[00:09.440 --> 00:11.520]  to send a message about reckless driving.
[00:11.520 --> 00:16.640]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht and I'll be back with more on this unusually harsh punishment
[00:16.640 --> 00:18.320]  in a moment.
[00:18.320 --> 00:20.040]  Privacy is under attack.
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[00:47.520 --> 00:52.920]  17-year-old Lyle Topo was cruising with three buddies and texting while driving.
[00:52.920 --> 00:58.400]  He crashed into a tree, badly injuring all four boys, and one was in a coma for weeks.
[00:58.400 --> 01:02.920]  The judge gave him a lecture about how the roads are littered with broken futures, then
[01:02.920 --> 01:06.400]  he revoked the boy's driver's license for life.
[01:06.400 --> 01:10.440]  What Lyle did was wrong, but at age 17, we all make mistakes.
[01:10.440 --> 01:15.320]  By revoking his license for life, the judge issued a virtual death sentence to his career
[01:15.320 --> 01:16.320]  and future.
[01:16.320 --> 01:22.200]  In 20 years, he'll be a husband and a dad, unable to even drive his son to a soccer game.
[01:22.200 --> 01:23.680]  Now that's cruel and unusual.
[01:23.680 --> 01:33.120]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht for StartPage.com, the world's most private search engine.
[01:33.120 --> 01:38.360]  In a South African game park, a rhinoceros died during an operation to embed a remotely
[01:38.360 --> 01:41.040]  readable tracking microchip in its horn.
[01:41.040 --> 01:45.720]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll have details on the tragic death of Spencer the
[01:45.720 --> 01:46.720]  Rhino.
[01:46.720 --> 01:47.720]  Next.
[01:47.720 --> 01:49.720]  Privacy is under attack.
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[02:17.120 --> 02:22.000]  Africa has a real problem with poachers who hunt endangered animals for ivory and meat.
[02:22.000 --> 02:26.640]  To stop the slaughter, they've tried various countermeasures, including locator microchips
[02:26.640 --> 02:28.240]  to track the animal's movements.
[02:28.240 --> 02:33.600]  But a game park in South Africa made the wrong decision when they tried to embed a microchip
[02:33.600 --> 02:36.440]  into the horn of a rhino named Spencer.
[02:36.440 --> 02:41.600]  To perform the procedure, veterinarians injected him with sedatives, inserted the chip, and
[02:41.600 --> 02:43.480]  tried to wake him up with stimulants.
[02:43.480 --> 02:46.680]  The combination tragically resulted in the animal's death.
[02:46.680 --> 02:51.400]  It was a painful reminder that dropping and chipping living creatures can be dangerous
[02:51.400 --> 02:52.400]  and sometimes deadly.
[02:52.400 --> 03:11.400]  I'm Dr. Cameron Albrecht for StartPage.com, the world's most private search engine.
[03:11.400 --> 03:32.400]  I'm Dr. Cameron Albrecht for StartPage.com, the world's most private search engine.
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[04:23.400 --> 04:49.400]  I'm Dr. Cameron Albrecht for StartPage.com, the world's most private search engine.
[04:49.400 --> 05:18.400]  I'm Dr. Cameron Albrecht for StartPage.com, the world's most private search engine.
[05:18.400 --> 05:25.400]  All of her family members had access to watching her 24 hours a day, seven days a week, and
[05:25.400 --> 05:29.400]  when I tried to, and it was bothering her, the delusion was bothering her that their
[05:29.400 --> 05:32.400]  family were spying on her and they were keeping her in the nursing home and weren't letting
[05:32.400 --> 05:33.400]  her out.
[05:33.400 --> 05:37.400]  And when I tried to ask her, well, do you see the camera, where are the cameras?
[05:37.400 --> 05:39.400]  Well, she didn't point them out to me.
[05:39.400 --> 05:43.400]  She couldn't prove to me that there were cameras, but she still believed they were there.
[05:43.400 --> 05:47.400]  And the more I tried to talk her out of her delusion, the matter she got at me and the
[05:47.400 --> 05:50.400]  other therapeutic rapport, I lost with her.
[05:50.400 --> 05:54.400]  So I finally had to give up trying to talk her out of her delusion.
[05:54.400 --> 05:56.400]  And I just let her have her delusion.
[05:56.400 --> 05:58.400]  It wasn't really hurting her.
[05:58.400 --> 06:01.400]  And outside of that one delusion, she wasn't delusional about anything.
[06:01.400 --> 06:03.400]  She was very logical and reasonable.
[06:03.400 --> 06:06.400]  So that was an example of a circumscribed delusion.
[06:06.400 --> 06:10.400]  And I realized when I tried to talk her out of it, she just got mad at me.
[06:10.400 --> 06:16.400]  So in a sense, let's say in the world we live in, let's say we've been given false
[06:16.400 --> 06:18.400]  information our whole lives.
[06:18.400 --> 06:20.400]  This is just a hypothetical.
[06:20.400 --> 06:23.400]  Let's say the history books we've read aren't true.
[06:23.400 --> 06:25.400]  The reasons for the wars we fought in aren't true.
[06:25.400 --> 06:29.400]  The money system that we believe in isn't really the things we read about it isn't true.
[06:29.400 --> 06:31.400]  What we hear on the news isn't true.
[06:31.400 --> 06:35.400]  You know, what we've gotten from our family, let's just assume that we've been given a
[06:35.400 --> 06:37.400]  whole bunch of information that isn't true.
[06:37.400 --> 06:43.400]  But we believe it is and we're committed to those beliefs because those, you know,
[06:43.400 --> 06:47.400]  our mental paradigms have developed based on our beliefs.
[06:47.400 --> 06:54.400]  So, you know, we would be living in a delusional world if we were given non-truthful information
[06:54.400 --> 06:56.400]  but were committed to those beliefs.
[06:56.400 --> 06:57.400]  We'll see.
[06:57.400 --> 07:00.400]  My opinion is that's the very world we live in.
[07:00.400 --> 07:04.400]  We've been given so much false information, some of it intentional.
[07:04.400 --> 07:09.400]  You know, the government has maybe tried to brainwash us in certain areas or the media has
[07:09.400 --> 07:12.400]  or some corporation hasn't wants to get us to buy their product.
[07:12.400 --> 07:17.400]  So, in some cases we've been brainwashed intentionally and in some cases we've been brainwashed
[07:17.400 --> 07:21.400]  unintentionally because our parents taught us things when we were young and we believed them
[07:21.400 --> 07:25.400]  so we've always kind of believed those things because they wouldn't intentionally lie to us.
[07:25.400 --> 07:31.400]  So, in a lot of ways we do live in a delusional world because we're committed to our beliefs
[07:31.400 --> 07:33.400]  and a lot of them may not be truthful.
[07:33.400 --> 07:42.400]  So, what it boils down to is we all find ourselves living in a world that we're trying to adapt to.
[07:42.400 --> 07:50.400]  And I believe it's maladaptive to stop looking for the truth or continue to believe things that there's no evidence for.
[07:50.400 --> 07:58.400]  I don't think that's adaptive as continuing to try to find the truth so that you can adapt to the real reality
[07:58.400 --> 08:01.400]  rather than the false reality that we've been presented with.
[08:01.400 --> 08:05.400]  So, in a lot of ways when I said before we live in a delusional world we do.
[08:05.400 --> 08:12.400]  We really do because we've been given so much false information our whole lives and yet we might be committed to our mental paradigms
[08:12.400 --> 08:18.400]  and because of the assimilation accommodation model of information processing we don't want to change those
[08:18.400 --> 08:25.400]  or because we don't want to find out the truth because then we'd have to admit everything we've learned our whole lives is alive
[08:25.400 --> 08:31.400]  and that might hurt us or we don't want to believe the government is trying to do this or that to us or the federal.
[08:31.400 --> 08:40.400]  So, there's all different reasons why the world is as screwed up as it is right now because we don't have access to the truth
[08:40.400 --> 08:42.400]  and we do live in a delusional world.
[08:42.400 --> 08:46.400]  I was going to ask a question but you essentially answered it.
[08:46.400 --> 08:56.400]  I was going to ask since this is a identifiable problem what is the solution?
[08:56.400 --> 09:02.400]  I think you answered it that we really don't have one.
[09:02.400 --> 09:06.400]  We live in such a complex society.
[09:06.400 --> 09:14.400]  We may not have a total answer to it but I think pursuit of the truth is the path that we need to be on
[09:14.400 --> 09:17.400]  and not rejecting truth.
[09:17.400 --> 09:26.400]  But again, we're trying to talk people into believing that why did that third building World Trade Center,
[09:26.400 --> 09:32.400]  why did that third building collapse and do you understand if it collapsed at its own footprint and fee-false feed?
[09:32.400 --> 09:34.400]  That means it had to be imploded.
[09:34.400 --> 09:37.400]  Now, if it had to be imploded that means there had to have been demolition charges already in them
[09:37.400 --> 09:40.400]  because you can't wire a building that size in one day
[09:40.400 --> 09:45.400]  and just the permitting process of getting demolition charges in a 47-story building
[09:45.400 --> 09:49.400]  in a concentrated area like New York would probably take months
[09:49.400 --> 09:51.400]  and then it would take months to wire it.
[09:51.400 --> 09:56.400]  So do you understand why was that building already pre-wired to come down on 9-11?
[09:56.400 --> 10:00.400]  And if it came down, why did it look like it came down the other two buildings,
[10:00.400 --> 10:02.400]  came down the same way where they pre-wired?
[10:02.400 --> 10:05.400]  When you start to look at the ramifications of building 7 falling
[10:05.400 --> 10:08.400]  and when I tell people this they look at me like I'm from Mars
[10:08.400 --> 10:10.400]  and it doesn't compute.
[10:10.400 --> 10:12.400]  It doesn't compute.
[10:12.400 --> 10:16.400]  When I tell them about the monetary system, it doesn't compute.
[10:16.400 --> 10:18.400]  But it's to their detriment.
[10:18.400 --> 10:20.400]  It's to their detriment.
[10:20.400 --> 10:22.400]  I had a fellow I worked with once.
[10:22.400 --> 10:24.400]  His name is Bill Taylor.
[10:24.400 --> 10:28.400]  And he used to say, well, by God, that's the way it is
[10:28.400 --> 10:32.400]  and I don't want to hear no proof to the contrary.
[10:32.400 --> 10:34.400]  There you go.
[10:34.400 --> 10:38.400]  And unfortunately, we live in such a complex world
[10:38.400 --> 10:42.400]  that we have to have something to believe in.
[10:42.400 --> 10:50.400]  And there's few people who can stay out on this limb
[10:50.400 --> 10:54.400]  and I can testify that it's a difficult place to be.
[10:54.400 --> 10:58.400]  Questioning everything is difficult.
[10:58.400 --> 11:02.400]  And probably the most difficult part of questioning everything
[11:02.400 --> 11:04.400]  is knowing what to question.
[11:04.400 --> 11:10.400]  There's so much that I accept without thinking about it
[11:10.400 --> 11:15.400]  that I wind up finding myself in little mental boxes
[11:15.400 --> 11:18.400]  and have no idea how I got there.
[11:18.400 --> 11:24.400]  I would very much like to find a solution to this particular dilemma.
[11:24.400 --> 11:26.400]  We do have a couple of callers
[11:26.400 --> 11:30.400]  and we're only going to have Dr. V for another five minutes or so.
[11:30.400 --> 11:38.400]  So I would like to go to Anana Mouse in the city of Nevada.
[11:38.400 --> 11:40.400]  North America.
[11:40.400 --> 11:44.400]  North America. I was wondering, where is N.A.?
[11:44.400 --> 11:46.400]  Hello, Mr. Anana Mouse.
[11:46.400 --> 11:48.400]  I think we've talked to you before.
[11:48.400 --> 11:50.400]  We talk to you all the time.
[11:50.400 --> 11:52.400]  Yeah.
[11:52.400 --> 11:54.400]  Or maybe there's a lot of people with that name.
[11:54.400 --> 11:56.400]  No, I've talked to you.
[11:56.400 --> 12:00.400]  My call screener says you have a solution.
[12:00.400 --> 12:02.400]  Yeah, a paradigm shift.
[12:02.400 --> 12:06.400]  It will practically clear crime,
[12:06.400 --> 12:10.400]  get rid of all the alphabet soups.
[12:10.400 --> 12:14.400]  Freedom actually is free.
[12:14.400 --> 12:16.400]  I got this out of the Bible.
[12:16.400 --> 12:20.400]  Jesus gave us the key long ago.
[12:20.400 --> 12:24.400]  He says, come by bread without money.
[12:24.400 --> 12:28.400]  So if everybody works for free, everything will be free.
[12:28.400 --> 12:30.400]  What would crime?
[12:30.400 --> 12:32.400]  Nobody would be out robbing people.
[12:32.400 --> 12:34.400]  There's nothing to steal.
[12:34.400 --> 12:36.400]  Everything's free.
[12:36.400 --> 12:38.400]  That's the paradigm shift.
[12:38.400 --> 12:42.400]  It sounds like you've been reading the Communist Manifesto.
[12:42.400 --> 12:44.400]  I read a lot.
[12:44.400 --> 12:46.400]  I don't remember all I read.
[12:46.400 --> 12:48.400]  From each according to his ability,
[12:48.400 --> 12:52.400]  to each according to his need.
[12:52.400 --> 12:54.400]  What we got, what we can,
[12:54.400 --> 12:56.400]  and we take back what we need,
[12:56.400 --> 12:58.400]  and everybody does fine.
[12:58.400 --> 13:00.400]  Is he assuming that 100% of the people will work at all?
[13:00.400 --> 13:04.400]  What about the people that won't work or can't work?
[13:04.400 --> 13:06.400]  I've got that solution too.
[13:06.400 --> 13:10.400]  The only job that's reserved explicitly for the bankers
[13:10.400 --> 13:12.400]  is the jobs that nobody else wants to do.
[13:12.400 --> 13:16.400]  That way we can get back some of the labor that they stole.
[13:16.400 --> 13:20.400]  Well, it would be nice if we could do that.
[13:20.400 --> 13:26.400]  Unfortunately, the problem we have is human beings.
[13:26.400 --> 13:28.400]  Yeah, I agree.
[13:28.400 --> 13:36.400]  Human beings for better or for worse are what they are.
[13:36.400 --> 13:42.400]  Yeah, and people have different motivations in life.
[13:42.400 --> 13:46.400]  For some people, one of their primary motivation
[13:46.400 --> 13:48.400]  is the motivation to power motive.
[13:48.400 --> 13:50.400]  They want to have power over other people,
[13:50.400 --> 13:52.400]  and they want to control other people.
[13:52.400 --> 13:54.400]  Now, people that don't have a power motive
[13:54.400 --> 13:56.400]  don't understand people that do have it,
[13:56.400 --> 14:00.400]  but some people actually do have that.
[14:00.400 --> 14:06.400]  Yeah, and unfortunately it seems that the narcissistic sociopath,
[14:06.400 --> 14:12.400]  the one person who should never be in a position of power...
[14:12.400 --> 14:14.400]  They gravitate towards positions of power.
[14:14.400 --> 14:16.400]  Exactly.
[14:16.400 --> 14:18.400]  For those...
[14:18.400 --> 14:20.400]  Dr. Heath understands that one,
[14:20.400 --> 14:22.400]  but narcissistic sociopath,
[14:22.400 --> 14:24.400]  and I got this from Dr. Heath,
[14:24.400 --> 14:27.400]  he's the definition of a psychopath.
[14:27.400 --> 14:34.400]  And we have a lot of those in positions of high power.
[14:34.400 --> 14:37.400]  We have people carrying guns
[14:37.400 --> 14:41.400]  who got into the position where they could carry guns
[14:41.400 --> 14:45.400]  for reasons that should keep them from carrying guns.
[14:45.400 --> 14:49.400]  It's just a complex world.
[14:49.400 --> 14:52.400]  Humans are incredibly complex,
[14:52.400 --> 14:56.400]  and do you have a magic pill for us, Dr. Heath?
[14:56.400 --> 14:59.400]  I sure don't, but I wish I did.
[14:59.400 --> 15:04.400]  And the idea of everybody working
[15:04.400 --> 15:08.400]  and giving their work to those who need it
[15:08.400 --> 15:10.400]  is a great idea.
[15:10.400 --> 15:12.400]  Utopia?
[15:12.400 --> 15:15.400]  Russia tried that.
[15:15.400 --> 15:19.400]  The problem is, when you read the Bible,
[15:19.400 --> 15:23.400]  they have God as a source of check and balances.
[15:23.400 --> 15:28.400]  But in Russia, they didn't have God as a source of check and balances,
[15:28.400 --> 15:33.400]  so those people who were of a corrupt nature
[15:33.400 --> 15:39.400]  were left with great opportunity to corrupt,
[15:39.400 --> 15:42.400]  and they did a great job of it.
[15:42.400 --> 15:46.400]  Unfortunately, in our free society, they've done the same thing.
[15:46.400 --> 15:50.400]  I think this will never go away.
[15:50.400 --> 15:57.400]  I read an interpretation of a plaque from this 5,500 years ago,
[15:57.400 --> 16:00.400]  and a king proclaimed he was reasserting the old law
[16:00.400 --> 16:04.400]  because those in positions of power and money
[16:04.400 --> 16:11.400]  so perverted the laws that the citizens could no longer achieve justice.
[16:11.400 --> 16:16.400]  If we've been going in these cycles for 5,500 years,
[16:16.400 --> 16:21.400]  somehow I don't think it's going to change next week.
[16:21.400 --> 16:25.400]  Dr. Heath, do you have some closing words for us?
[16:25.400 --> 16:29.400]  Not really. If you've got a caller on the line that wants to ask a question of me,
[16:29.400 --> 16:33.400]  before I get off, I'll be glad to answer a question.
[16:33.400 --> 16:36.400]  Okay, hang on. We're about to go to break.
[16:36.400 --> 16:42.400]  If we have a question, we'll bring it on the next segment
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[19:01.400 --> 19:04.400]  Well, don't let nothing get to you.
[19:04.400 --> 19:07.400]  We're the father candidate by you.
[19:07.400 --> 19:13.400]  But don't let my people hurt you until they can get behind you.
[19:13.400 --> 19:15.400]  You know what I mean?
[19:15.400 --> 19:18.400]  My friend, Mala Jackson, is a cop.
[19:18.400 --> 19:21.400]  Just things that hurt me crazy.
[19:21.400 --> 19:24.400]  Telling you about the limit.
[19:24.400 --> 19:27.400]  Calling his name once again.
[19:27.400 --> 19:30.400]  Every day you know he works it in.
[19:30.400 --> 19:33.400]  Just things that hurt me crazy.
[19:33.400 --> 19:36.400]  Telling you about the limit.
[19:36.400 --> 19:38.400]  Calling his name once again.
[19:38.400 --> 19:40.400]  Okay, we are back.
[19:40.400 --> 19:43.400]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, and Craig of Ruleoflaw Radio.
[19:43.400 --> 19:49.400]  Dr. V had to go, so we've lost him for tonight.
[19:49.400 --> 19:54.400]  We are going to go back to Mark in Wisconsin.
[19:54.400 --> 19:57.400]  Mark, you wanted to give us an update.
[19:57.400 --> 19:58.400]  Yes.
[19:58.400 --> 20:01.400]  On your adventures in legal land.
[20:01.400 --> 20:03.400]  Oh yes, I did.
[20:03.400 --> 20:07.400]  The only other comment I had for Dr. Vitz's topic
[20:07.400 --> 20:11.400]  is the biblical idea of jubilee.
[20:11.400 --> 20:14.400]  It's a possible way of resetting the system.
[20:14.400 --> 20:19.400]  And under your idea of lead and teddy bears,
[20:19.400 --> 20:22.400]  if the government isn't the one doing the fiat,
[20:22.400 --> 20:27.400]  you'd have corporations or even we would call them market makers.
[20:27.400 --> 20:30.400]  And an example of that is Wall Street.
[20:30.400 --> 20:34.400]  And do we really want them in charge of figuring out
[20:34.400 --> 20:38.400]  what a lead versus teddy bear ratio is?
[20:38.400 --> 20:42.400]  Well, the thing about that is,
[20:42.400 --> 20:49.400]  is the economy has always been like something alive.
[20:49.400 --> 20:55.400]  And we have large companies that grow up and try to manipulate it.
[20:55.400 --> 21:02.400]  But about every 50 years, it comes back and reasserts itself.
[21:02.400 --> 21:07.400]  So since economic records have been kept,
[21:07.400 --> 21:14.400]  economies have gone through virtually a 50-year cycle.
[21:14.400 --> 21:18.400]  This one's about 20 years late statistically.
[21:18.400 --> 21:24.400]  But about every 50 years, everyone has an economic upheaval
[21:24.400 --> 21:27.400]  where the system writes itself.
[21:27.400 --> 21:32.400]  The system ultimately is based on supply and demand,
[21:32.400 --> 21:34.400]  whatever the corporation's going to do.
[21:34.400 --> 21:38.400]  The corporations can tell me what I should be buying
[21:38.400 --> 21:40.400]  and what soap I should be using.
[21:40.400 --> 21:45.400]  But in the end, I am going to use the one that I want to.
[21:45.400 --> 21:50.400]  And that has always been the most powerful influence in the system.
[21:50.400 --> 21:55.400]  So if we don't lock in on one commodity,
[21:55.400 --> 22:05.400]  that some person, cartel, or large company can take control of,
[22:05.400 --> 22:09.400]  but the market in general,
[22:09.400 --> 22:18.400]  then we'll have a system where no one could effectively control the whole system.
[22:18.400 --> 22:24.400]  If I'm trading in one commodity and the commodity doesn't appear to be trading naturally,
[22:24.400 --> 22:29.400]  I just move from that one to another one.
[22:29.400 --> 22:32.400]  So that's an idea. It's a complex idea.
[22:32.400 --> 22:39.400]  But I suspect with the technology that we have,
[22:39.400 --> 22:47.400]  we may reach a point where we don't need money in the traditional sense.
[22:47.400 --> 22:53.400]  The whole concept of money may become antiquated.
[22:53.400 --> 22:55.400]  Anyway, that was the idea.
[22:55.400 --> 22:57.400]  Okay.
[22:57.400 --> 23:01.400]  Now, the next time you're down at Travis County,
[23:01.400 --> 23:08.400]  so you can verify my correction to my original 374-gram statement,
[23:08.400 --> 23:11.400]  when you see Lady Themis take the scales from her,
[23:11.400 --> 23:13.400]  because she obviously isn't using them,
[23:13.400 --> 23:19.400]  take one tri-ounce coin and 32 $20 bills.
[23:19.400 --> 23:26.400]  And you find the 32 $20 bills, not the 374 $20 bills, would weigh more.
[23:26.400 --> 23:31.400]  So it's even worse as a ratio.
[23:31.400 --> 23:35.400]  So you could carry a lot more money in gold than in paper.
[23:35.400 --> 23:38.400]  And, well, as we went to 50s or hundreds.
[23:38.400 --> 23:39.400]  Yes.
[23:39.400 --> 23:43.400]  Now, on my adventures in legal and in fun and excitement,
[23:43.400 --> 23:49.400]  it appears that my bad ruling from the court commissioner,
[23:49.400 --> 23:53.400]  when I went in front of the judge, an actual judge,
[23:53.400 --> 23:56.400]  on a de novo as ordered by the court commissioner,
[23:56.400 --> 23:58.400]  if I didn't like his decision,
[23:58.400 --> 24:01.400]  the judge said the court commissioner was wrong
[24:01.400 --> 24:06.400]  and he's not going to hear the stopping on my discovery requests,
[24:06.400 --> 24:09.400]  because it's not timely.
[24:09.400 --> 24:15.400]  I have to wait until my lack of ability to get discovery results in a judge,
[24:15.400 --> 24:22.400]  then I can go back to the court and ask that the discovery thing be reversed.
[24:22.400 --> 24:27.400]  So effectively, I end up with a whole de novo trial in the issue.
[24:27.400 --> 24:37.400]  But the reason I'm calling is the judge or the court commissioner in the transcript
[24:37.400 --> 24:41.400]  had two different rulings regarding the discovery.
[24:41.400 --> 24:44.400]  The first was, I'm not going to require them to respond.
[24:44.400 --> 24:52.400]  Then a couple pages later, he says, I'm not going to order them to respond.
[24:52.400 --> 24:58.400]  And then when he wrote it into the official transcript, said something entirely different.
[24:58.400 --> 25:03.400]  So the official court transcript in the court record does not agree with either
[25:03.400 --> 25:11.400]  of the two statements he made in the transcript from the court reporter.
[25:11.400 --> 25:16.400]  What rule, and he's the one who wrote up what he meant.
[25:16.400 --> 25:25.400]  So is there any kind of federal thing or some procedural trick I can attempt
[25:25.400 --> 25:31.400]  to have the new court commissioner reverse the old one,
[25:31.400 --> 25:36.400]  because he said one thing and did another?
[25:36.400 --> 25:42.400]  Or is it once he signed the official record saying, this is what I meant?
[25:42.400 --> 25:45.400]  That's the one that will stand.
[25:45.400 --> 25:49.400]  All right, what he said in court.
[25:49.400 --> 25:56.400]  You know, if you ever said something and then look back on it and thought,
[25:56.400 --> 26:01.400]  that didn't come out the way I intended it to.
[26:01.400 --> 26:03.400]  You know, we've all done that.
[26:03.400 --> 26:08.400]  And the courts understand that those things occur.
[26:08.400 --> 26:13.400]  They are going to pay attention to what the judge wrote in his order,
[26:13.400 --> 26:17.400]  regardless of what he said in court.
[26:17.400 --> 26:18.400]  Okay.
[26:18.400 --> 26:21.400]  And you won't be able to hold him to what he said in court.
[26:21.400 --> 26:28.400]  Well, then I guess I just, since it's not officially a court of record,
[26:28.400 --> 26:32.400]  since it's a municipal opinion being small claims,
[26:32.400 --> 26:35.400]  I'll just have to wait if it doesn't go my way.
[26:35.400 --> 26:40.400]  I'll have to wait for, have it re-heard in the derivative.
[26:40.400 --> 26:45.400]  Well, you can use that to claim that the judge is incompetent.
[26:45.400 --> 26:49.400]  Well, in fact, that judge bailed on my case.
[26:49.400 --> 26:52.400]  And the new gal, who just started the very same day,
[26:52.400 --> 26:56.400]  I'm one of her first cases on her first day.
[26:56.400 --> 26:58.400]  So...
[26:58.400 --> 27:03.400]  Did you tell her, welcome to the deep end of the pool?
[27:03.400 --> 27:09.400]  I apologize that she had such bad luck, yes.
[27:09.400 --> 27:14.400]  I was in Travis County,
[27:14.400 --> 27:19.400]  and I had helped a fellow put together a writ of habeas corpus.
[27:19.400 --> 27:24.400]  And he filed it, and Don kept turning to me and asking me questions.
[27:24.400 --> 27:27.400]  And finally the judge said, who are you?
[27:27.400 --> 27:30.400]  I said, well, I'm the one that wrote through it.
[27:30.400 --> 27:32.400]  He said, are you a lawyer?
[27:32.400 --> 27:33.400]  Oh, no.
[27:33.400 --> 27:35.400]  You wish I was a lawyer.
[27:35.400 --> 27:39.400]  Oh, I do? Why do I wish you were a lawyer? Because if I was a lawyer,
[27:39.400 --> 27:41.400]  I wouldn't be giving you these.
[27:41.400 --> 27:45.400]  And I had a stack of verified criminal affidavits.
[27:45.400 --> 27:52.400]  And he looked those over, and there were complaints against prosecutors and judges.
[27:52.400 --> 27:57.400]  And he read them over a bit, and then he looked up at me with this,
[27:57.400 --> 28:04.400]  oh my goodness look, and I said, welcome to the deep end of the pool.
[28:04.400 --> 28:06.400]  Yep.
[28:06.400 --> 28:11.400]  That was great fun.
[28:11.400 --> 28:15.400]  Okay, so where is your case now? Where's it leading to?
[28:15.400 --> 28:21.400]  Well, because the judge went ahead, and the actual judge went ahead and said,
[28:21.400 --> 28:24.400]  my de novo's weren't at all timely since there was no decision,
[28:24.400 --> 28:29.400]  he went ahead and said, I'm not hearing it, you guys wasted your time, get out.
[28:29.400 --> 28:35.400]  Then he told me to sit there and cool my heels for until nine,
[28:35.400 --> 28:38.400]  and then I ended up cooling my heels for 20 more minutes.
[28:38.400 --> 28:43.400]  And we heard the default judgment against one of the other plaintiffs.
[28:43.400 --> 28:47.400]  And he looked at my original complaint where I pointed out the judge said
[28:47.400 --> 28:49.400]  he didn't see the stuff in the record.
[28:49.400 --> 28:55.400]  He went ahead and took not only my stamped, conformed, verified by the clerk
[28:55.400 --> 29:00.400]  of the courts in the county records, but also the folder from the thing,
[29:00.400 --> 29:07.400]  came back and said, you know, you did all the steps, you did everything humanly possible,
[29:07.400 --> 29:11.400]  and I got a default against one of the defendants.
[29:11.400 --> 29:16.400]  Wonderful. How much does that net you overall?
[29:16.400 --> 29:21.400]  If I get all the expenses, about 5K.
[29:21.400 --> 29:27.400]  But this is a group of people where they have a history of not paying their bills.
[29:27.400 --> 29:32.400]  They have a $2,000 judgment from the state of Wisconsin here.
[29:32.400 --> 29:34.400]  They didn't pay that.
[29:34.400 --> 29:38.400]  Is fraud implicated?
[29:38.400 --> 29:41.400]  Fraud implicated, I'm going to pick it up.
[29:41.400 --> 29:43.400]  Okay, we're about to go to break.
[29:43.400 --> 29:46.400]  If fraud is implicated, you can go after his house.
[29:46.400 --> 29:48.400]  It's not even protected by homestead.
[29:48.400 --> 29:51.400]  This is Randy Kelton, David Stevens, Eddie Craig, we have our radio.
[29:51.400 --> 29:53.400]  Hang on, Mark. We'll pick you up on the other side.
[29:53.400 --> 29:57.400]  Call in number 512-646-1984.
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[31:59.400 --> 32:09.400]  Okay, we are back.
[32:09.400 --> 32:27.400]  Randy Kelton, University of the City of Great New York Radio, and we're talking to Mark
[32:27.400 --> 32:29.400]  in Wisconsin.
[32:29.400 --> 32:36.400]  Okay, you've got a default against one client, a one litigant.
[32:36.400 --> 32:40.400]  How many litigants do you have in the case?
[32:40.400 --> 32:42.400]  At the moment, two.
[32:42.400 --> 32:50.400]  I'm looking to add three more because three more of them showed up in a canceled bankruptcy as owners.
[32:50.400 --> 32:58.400]  Whether or not the court commissioner allows me to amend the pleadings and add those or if I have to add them as under the idea
[32:58.400 --> 33:03.400]  that new evidence was found and there were these people, this separate issue.
[33:03.400 --> 33:19.400]  The fraud, we can go towards the use of signing a lease in February of 2006 as agent of company LLC.
[33:19.400 --> 33:22.400]  Do these guys have cars?
[33:22.400 --> 33:27.400]  The one guy was the state, won over a million dollars in back taxes.
[33:27.400 --> 33:30.400]  He's structured his life not to own a damn thing.
[33:30.400 --> 33:39.400]  But the other gentlemen who I did get the judgment against has a house, has a car, has a wife who has a job, etc.
[33:39.400 --> 33:46.400]  Oh, there's nothing like a changing venue.
[33:46.400 --> 33:52.400]  A changing venue from the court you're in to the court of angry wife.
[33:52.400 --> 33:56.400]  Did you sue his wife?
[33:56.400 --> 33:58.400]  Better than that.
[33:58.400 --> 34:10.400]  Since they weren't accepting paperwork at the business address and they were dodging service, I sent a copy of the case to his house address to him and his wife.
[34:10.400 --> 34:16.400]  Suddenly he started calling around and shopping this thing to attorneys and so you'll love this.
[34:16.400 --> 34:27.400]  An attorney contacts me by mail saying, I was contacted by defendant B. He gives me a call and says, I am not defendant's B's lawyer.
[34:27.400 --> 34:29.400]  I want nothing to do with this.
[34:29.400 --> 34:30.400]  I don't do criminal.
[34:30.400 --> 34:31.400]  I don't do trials.
[34:31.400 --> 34:35.400]  I just do business contract law, etc., etc.
[34:35.400 --> 34:42.400]  Then we talk for 40 minutes where he tells me all kinds of details that defendant B told him.
[34:42.400 --> 34:49.400]  But because he's not his lawyer, there is no client attorney privilege.
[34:49.400 --> 35:13.400]  And Wisconsin has specifically in the 799 small claims where it says, evidence that is hearsay, which would be lawyer dude saying what non-client told him, evidence that is hearsay can be entered if it is otherwise reasonable, etc.
[35:13.400 --> 35:19.400]  So I have an opportunity to add some of his claims.
[35:19.400 --> 35:21.400]  He's claiming that yeah, he's an owner.
[35:21.400 --> 35:25.400]  He knows he's an owner, but defendant A has run away with the business.
[35:25.400 --> 35:27.400]  He's the one who controls the books.
[35:27.400 --> 35:34.400]  He's the one who has control of everything and none of the ownership class knows what's going on in the business.
[35:34.400 --> 35:39.400]  His problem, not your problem.
[35:39.400 --> 35:40.400]  Exactly.
[35:40.400 --> 35:41.400]  Finger going to...
[35:41.400 --> 35:46.400]  Does his wife have a car?
[35:46.400 --> 35:49.400]  Probably.
[35:49.400 --> 35:54.400]  Finally claim against the car.
[35:54.400 --> 36:07.400]  Unless you might petition the court to restrict the litigants from liquidating any assets.
[36:07.400 --> 36:08.400]  Okay.
[36:08.400 --> 36:10.400]  Do you know where the guy lives?
[36:10.400 --> 36:11.400]  Oh yeah.
[36:11.400 --> 36:16.400]  I tried to serve him at his house and he was not available there.
[36:16.400 --> 36:21.400]  Go by and see if you can see which car the wife drives.
[36:21.400 --> 36:22.400]  Okay.
[36:22.400 --> 36:27.400]  And petition the court for a lien against the car.
[36:27.400 --> 36:29.400]  Okay.
[36:29.400 --> 36:31.400]  Here's another twist.
[36:31.400 --> 36:41.400]  The case is in one county over from his house, so does the county where the case is, is that where I should docket it?
[36:41.400 --> 36:48.400]  Or should I also docket it in the case of his where the property is?
[36:48.400 --> 36:53.400]  You can actually docket it.
[36:53.400 --> 36:58.400]  The case where the tort occurred.
[36:58.400 --> 36:59.400]  Okay.
[36:59.400 --> 37:01.400]  Where the claim is.
[37:01.400 --> 37:11.400]  You know, if you have real property, the claim goes wherever the property lies, but this goes to where the action complained of occurred.
[37:11.400 --> 37:13.400]  That's where venue lies.
[37:13.400 --> 37:14.400]  Right.
[37:14.400 --> 37:20.400]  So it doesn't matter where he lives, but this is about the political side.
[37:20.400 --> 37:21.400]  Yep.
[37:21.400 --> 37:34.400]  So if you file a claim against her car, it doesn't matter if she owes more than the car is worth to a bank.
[37:34.400 --> 37:43.400]  If you file a claim against her car, that has the effect of changing venue.
[37:43.400 --> 37:47.400]  From the court you're in to the court of angry wife.
[37:47.400 --> 37:48.400]  Yes.
[37:48.400 --> 37:51.400]  And there's no worse court to be in.
[37:51.400 --> 37:52.400]  Oh, yes.
[37:52.400 --> 38:00.400]  And if you claim that the why is Wisconsin a, what do we call it?
[38:00.400 --> 38:02.400]  Marital property state.
[38:02.400 --> 38:03.400]  Pardon me.
[38:03.400 --> 38:06.400]  Marital property state, yes.
[38:06.400 --> 38:18.400]  So anything that he has accrued through his nefarious dealings, she has benefited from.
[38:18.400 --> 38:19.400]  Yep.
[38:19.400 --> 38:22.400]  Name her in the suit.
[38:22.400 --> 38:23.400]  Okay.
[38:23.400 --> 38:24.400]  Yeah.
[38:24.400 --> 38:25.400]  Laundering the money.
[38:25.400 --> 38:26.400]  Okay.
[38:26.400 --> 38:30.400]  I will add that then as a amended.
[38:30.400 --> 38:43.400]  No, I can't at this point amend the suit to add her because it's over six months since this whole thing started at the beginning of the year and it's still dragging on.
[38:43.400 --> 38:44.400]  It doesn't matter.
[38:44.400 --> 38:47.400]  You can act as if she is included anyway.
[38:47.400 --> 38:54.400]  And one thing you might want to do is send her a set of interrogatories.
[38:54.400 --> 38:55.400]  Okay.
[38:55.400 --> 38:59.400]  Asking about her personal assets.
[38:59.400 --> 39:02.400]  All right.
[39:02.400 --> 39:14.400]  You might also want to include in those interrogatories information or verification of whether any of her personal holdings are a result of any of his enterprises.
[39:14.400 --> 39:16.400]  Okay.
[39:16.400 --> 39:18.400]  That's, that's good too.
[39:18.400 --> 39:25.400]  Because that may allow you to add her as a jointer to the suit.
[39:25.400 --> 39:27.400]  Yeah, okay.
[39:27.400 --> 39:31.400]  I'm thinking in terms not of law here, but of politics.
[39:31.400 --> 39:32.400]  Right.
[39:32.400 --> 39:35.400]  And all politics is local.
[39:35.400 --> 39:41.400]  You might want to handle her with kid gloves.
[39:41.400 --> 39:47.400]  So that you can get her on your side against him.
[39:47.400 --> 39:52.400]  Now, I know a woman is supposed to cleave through her husband.
[39:52.400 --> 40:03.400]  But in the real world we live in, women tend to want to find any reason they can beat the crap out of their husband.
[40:03.400 --> 40:17.400]  So if you start looking at her finances and doing so very apologetically, that, you know, the husband has so effectively hidden his resources,
[40:17.400 --> 40:25.400]  that you are unfortunately left with having to seek her resources.
[40:25.400 --> 40:31.400]  What do you think she's going to fix him for breakfast tomorrow?
[40:31.400 --> 40:36.400]  Whole lot of knuckle sandwich.
[40:36.400 --> 40:39.400]  You are having way too much fun with this.
[40:39.400 --> 40:51.400]  Oh, it has been a long and hard road, but I will go ahead and endorse not only any statements, but Richard Graves statement.
[40:51.400 --> 40:53.400]  Frederick, Frederick Graves.
[40:53.400 --> 40:54.400]  Frederick Graves.
[40:54.400 --> 40:56.400]  Read the code.
[40:56.400 --> 41:00.400]  Read the statutes.
[41:00.400 --> 41:07.400]  Yeah, and I can tell you read the statute is sometimes it's like reading a comic book.
[41:07.400 --> 41:13.400]  You'll read what the law actually says and laugh hysterical.
[41:13.400 --> 41:24.400]  I don't know how many times I've read the code and thought, how can these people be this stupid?
[41:24.400 --> 41:26.400]  An example of that.
[41:26.400 --> 41:34.400]  One of our, one of the maxims of law is a bell which is once rung cannot be unwrung, right?
[41:34.400 --> 41:35.400]  Exactly.
[41:35.400 --> 41:39.400]  I have used that in a variation.
[41:39.400 --> 41:41.400]  Sorry, Bubba.
[41:41.400 --> 41:44.400]  That bell's already been rung.
[41:44.400 --> 41:53.400]  State of Wisconsin LLC code goes ahead and says, if you haven't gotten their paperwork in, just catch it up and we'll consider you good.
[41:53.400 --> 41:58.400]  Then it goes ahead and says, if you don't have the corporate paperwork, you don't have any agreements.
[41:58.400 --> 41:59.400]  You don't have any of this.
[41:59.400 --> 42:02.400]  You don't have the things that you're supposed to have.
[42:02.400 --> 42:09.400]  The last line says, that doesn't mean that you're running, you know, that you're in violation of the Wisconsin statutes.
[42:09.400 --> 42:12.400]  But it says, you shall have this record.
[42:12.400 --> 42:13.400]  You shall have this record.
[42:13.400 --> 42:14.400]  You shall have this record.
[42:14.400 --> 42:16.400]  You shall, shall, shall in the last line.
[42:16.400 --> 42:19.400]  But it doesn't mean that you're in violation.
[42:19.400 --> 42:25.400]  How do you get from no violation to a bunch of shells in front of it?
[42:25.400 --> 42:39.400]  But this is why we have appellate courts and appellate court decisions and if this thing gets that far, well, there's been a lot of bell ringing on this thing.
[42:39.400 --> 42:52.400]  And in my experience, that is the thing that they tend to find the most difficult to deal with.
[42:52.400 --> 43:02.400]  Because they're accustomed to dealing with people in a way, you know, especially I'm primarily dealing with public officials.
[43:02.400 --> 43:04.400]  They do all this stuff.
[43:04.400 --> 43:11.400]  And then when somebody raises an issue, they say, okay, we'll stop beating you.
[43:11.400 --> 43:15.400]  It's kind of like the police officers beating the guy over the head with a billy club.
[43:15.400 --> 43:17.400]  Do you want me to stop or just slow down?
[43:17.400 --> 43:23.400]  Well, they say, okay, yeah, we've kind of beat you bloody.
[43:23.400 --> 43:30.400]  But if you'll just go away, we'll stop beating you bloody.
[43:30.400 --> 43:36.400]  And most people say, okay, anything to get you to quit beating me bloody.
[43:36.400 --> 43:37.400]  That's what they're used to.
[43:37.400 --> 43:42.400]  They're not used to someone who sets them up.
[43:42.400 --> 43:47.400]  Okay, we'll finish up with you on the other side. We'll have Adam from Texas.
[43:47.400 --> 43:50.400]  We'll pick you up after we get done with Mark on the other side.
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[45:01.400 --> 45:03.400]  The Oklahoma City Bombing.
[45:03.400 --> 45:05.400]  Top 10 reasons to question the official story.
[45:05.400 --> 45:09.400]  Reason number one, John Doe number two, and other accomplices.
[45:09.400 --> 45:17.400]  On the day of the bombing, nearly all of the witnesses that saw Tim McVeigh and the Rider Truck report that he was accompanied by other perpetrators.
[45:17.400 --> 45:24.400]  The FBI and federal prosecutors insist that Tim McVeigh alone delivered the Rider Truck bomb to the Murra Building and detonated it.
[45:24.400 --> 45:32.400]  The only witness the government produced to place McVeigh at the building that morning, Dana Bradley, who lost her children and one of her legs in the bombing,
[45:32.400 --> 45:39.400]  testified that she saw McVeigh with another man, the fable John Doe number two, exiting the Rider Truck.
[45:39.400 --> 45:50.400]  While at least 15 other witnesses claim to have seen McVeigh with other perpetrators the day of the bombing, no less than 226 witnesses placed him with other men in the days before the bombing,
[45:50.400 --> 45:57.400]  including when he rented the Rider Truck, and in some cases have positively identified the other perpetrators.
[45:57.400 --> 46:14.400]  For more information, please visit okcbombingtruth.com.
[46:27.400 --> 46:40.400]  Yep, you have to be careful of what you're wishing for. This is Randy Kelton, Deb Stephens, Eddie Craig, Roodle Law Radio, and we're talking to Mark in Wisconsin.
[46:40.400 --> 47:08.400]  And Mark, I've given you more time because you are an example of what I would like other people to realize is that, especially in these small claims courts, there's nothing the other side can do but what you have something you can do in return.
[47:08.400 --> 47:19.400]  And I think most people who have an issue and don't know how to adjudicate it, that's the one thing they tend not to intuitively understand.
[47:19.400 --> 47:29.400]  We care what the other side does, but not a great amount. If they don't do the right thing, there are always things we can do to beat them up.
[47:29.400 --> 47:39.400]  And it seems that the more improper what they do is, the more options we have.
[47:39.400 --> 47:49.400]  And in your fight against these folks, you have absolutely demonstrated that there's always something you can do.
[47:49.400 --> 48:08.400]  So, give us a quick, where are you now? All right, well, next month, well, actually in October, I've stacked up where your motion's hearing, pre-trial, and then a hearing, and in theory, it'll be over.
[48:08.400 --> 48:23.400]  I've had the lawyer, every time I do something where the lawyer by statute says, I can collect money, you know, because of the defeat of my motion,
[48:23.400 --> 48:30.400]  he pipes up and says, I want some money, and the judges and the commissioners have said, you ain't getting squat.
[48:30.400 --> 48:43.400]  Now, what that makes it interesting is federal code section 11, where it goes ahead and says, if you're submitting paperwork to the court,
[48:43.400 --> 48:57.400]  you're submitting it for honest purpose to be true, and you submit that it's correct, et cetera, was codified as 80405 in the state of Wisconsin in 2005.
[48:57.400 --> 49:10.400]  So, this attorney had, under what you had prefaced this segment with, the attorney submitted to the court that the defendant didn't know who the ownership class was.
[49:10.400 --> 49:27.400]  What makes this interesting is there was a November 20th-ish paperwork filed in the other county saying, we're the group of lawyers now representing this business of the gentleman I'm suing.
[49:27.400 --> 49:40.400]  Well, I filed in 2012, which means the law firm knew not only the business and who may or may not be the owners, but certainly this person showing up.
[49:40.400 --> 49:51.400]  Well, if he's the only one who ever showed up for the business, if he's the only one who ever signed the contract, if he's the only one who signed the checks to pay him,
[49:51.400 --> 50:02.400]  the question becomes, why did the lawyers submit paperwork where the person that's suing says, it is not within my mental knowledge to know who the owners are?
[50:02.400 --> 50:08.400]  If, on the other hand, other people did show, same questions can be asked.
[50:08.400 --> 50:15.400]  And that then goes to, are you submitting paperwork, which is honest, voice-counting true?
[50:15.400 --> 50:27.400]  So I have all of those options available to me. Options that I have available.
[50:27.400 --> 50:36.400]  Wait a minute. Let me make sure I understand this. You're saying you have contradictory statements by the lawyer.
[50:36.400 --> 50:49.400]  What I have by the lawyer, well, I have contradictory statements from the lawyer, and that one's coming up for a motion. It starts off where on the 27th of February,
[50:49.400 --> 50:57.400]  Defendant A showed up in court waving paper, breathing fire, and was told, get an answer in in 15 days or you're defaulted.
[50:57.400 --> 51:07.400]  On the 16th of the next month, he got defaulted, and the lawyer went ahead and said that he received the paperwork on the 16th.
[51:07.400 --> 51:15.400]  He then thought there was a default. He contacted the court. The court said there was no default, so he filed an answer.
[51:15.400 --> 51:30.400]  Then, later, I'm saying, well, 30 days passed because you did not respond to the admitted deny, and in Wisconsin, if 30 days, if an admitted deny is not re-answered,
[51:30.400 --> 51:43.400]  you can default admission. His counterargument was because there was a default entered in the case, I was under no obligation to submit any answers.
[51:43.400 --> 51:52.400]  Problem, he filed paperwork as an answer, and was told by the court this was a mistake.
[51:52.400 --> 52:05.400]  So how can he go ahead on one hand and say, I found out there was no default, and then two pages later in his own affidavit saying, because of the default,
[52:05.400 --> 52:14.400]  the two don't make, the two don't connect, and even my court reporter caught that one.
[52:14.400 --> 52:24.400]  So, if these are material statements, the lawyer has a duty to speak with candor to the court.
[52:24.400 --> 52:39.400]  That is codified in Wisconsin, Supreme Court rules 20.1.6, I want to say, could be 0.8. But, yes, that is part of the American Bar Association-derived rules.
[52:39.400 --> 52:43.400]  So it's going to be almost the same in every other court or every other court.
[52:43.400 --> 52:56.400]  The American Bar Association model standards have been adopted by 47 states. So almost all of them are all the same.
[52:56.400 --> 53:05.400]  They adopt the model standards and then they make minor variations. But this requirement to speak with candor to the court,
[53:05.400 --> 53:17.400]  that will be in every set of bar standards, whether they've accepted the, it were enacted the American Bar Association model standards or not.
[53:17.400 --> 53:34.400]  Lawyers must not lie to the court. If they make one statement and taking a particular position, then they are subject to collateral estoppel toward any other position.
[53:34.400 --> 53:41.400]  So, okay, where are you at now?
[53:41.400 --> 53:48.400]  Well, basically, you know, I've got the one default and there's three more court dates coming up.
[53:48.400 --> 53:55.400]  And I have no, I only have, I put forth many discovery questions.
[53:55.400 --> 54:09.400]  I got bogus answers on the first response for discovery and all the other discoveries, they're not answering at all because the court commissioner had said no more responses for discovery are needed.
[54:09.400 --> 54:15.400]  So the only thing I have to work with is what's in other court records.
[54:15.400 --> 54:19.400]  Did you move to disqualify the commissioner?
[54:19.400 --> 54:25.400]  The commissioner more or less self disqualified because I've got a new commissioner.
[54:25.400 --> 54:32.400]  Oh, okay, so now wait a minute. This is important.
[54:32.400 --> 54:40.400]  Was the prior commissioner disqualified or did he just step aside?
[54:40.400 --> 54:46.400]  There's nothing in the record. It's just suddenly a new commissioner.
[54:46.400 --> 54:59.400]  Okay, so they just appointed. So you need to, you might look at moving to disqualify the original commissioner for incompetence.
[54:59.400 --> 55:04.400]  And if you can get him disqualified, then all of his rulings are void.
[55:04.400 --> 55:30.400]  Oh, well, now they're secured. Oh, that's beautiful because I have right in front of God and everybody, or at least the report reporter, where he said, I do not see in the record where you attempted to get the guy's service, where you published, where you mailed the guy's
[55:30.400 --> 55:36.400]  service, and the military thing. I don't see it in the record. And it was in the record.
[55:36.400 --> 55:46.400]  And I handed him in court that day a sheet of paper with the five elements or the four spots in the record where it was.
[55:46.400 --> 55:50.400]  So I would think that would qualify. I wouldn't it?
[55:50.400 --> 56:04.400]  But failing to apply the law to the facts. So he has a duty to establish the facts in accordance with the rules of evidence, and he failed to do so.
[56:04.400 --> 56:14.400]  Ms. Feeson's in office. And in the process denied you in your right to petition the court for redress of grievance. That's due process, right?
[56:14.400 --> 56:20.400]  That's a fundamental error. Move to disqualify him for incompetence.
[56:20.400 --> 56:28.400]  Beautiful. That will certainly stick across a bunch of people's gizzards.
[56:28.400 --> 56:32.400]  And also, did you file a judicial conduct complaint against him for this?
[56:32.400 --> 56:48.400]  I have the paperwork done. I haven't sent it. If I had filed a judicial conduct or a bar complaint against the lawyer, I might have heard back that they're not going to do anything.
[56:48.400 --> 57:01.400]  Although if I had filed and if I had received a reply, they might not have even touched the idea of not speaking with candor to counsel or to the tribunal.
[57:01.400 --> 57:12.400]  Okay, who cares? We don't care about that. They're going to double his malpractice insurance anyway.
[57:12.400 --> 57:21.400]  That's the point. And when they do that, the lawyer is going to be very, very annoyed.
[57:21.400 --> 57:34.400]  And if I have to deal with someone, especially someone in a position like this, I want them annoyed. I don't want them cool and calculated.
[57:34.400 --> 57:52.400]  That's why I told Roger Jones, if you've just been over, well, pull that while ahead and you'll be fine for you. I wanted him annoyed because when people are annoyed, they do stupid things.
[57:52.400 --> 58:00.400]  And if you double his malpractice insurance from 40 to 80, he's going to be annoyed.
[58:00.400 --> 58:10.400]  Okay, let's finish up quickly on the other side. And so we can go to Adam. Appreciate your mark. You're why we do this show.
[58:10.400 --> 58:21.400]  Okay, hang on. We'll be right back. This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevenson, David Craig. We use our radio. Our call in number is 512-646-1984.
[58:21.400 --> 58:29.400]  We're going into our last hour. So if you have a question or comment, give us a call. Get in line. Adam, I see you there.
[58:29.400 --> 58:33.400]  We'll pick you up. It seems we've finished with Mark on the other side.
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[01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:11.400]  A top cybersecurity expert has a warning for America. If you build an electrical smart grid, the hackers will come and they could cause a catastrophic blackout.
[01:00:11.400 --> 01:00:23.400]  And Dr. Catherine Albrecht, back with the shocking details in a moment.
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[01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:59.400]  So they're installing a national network of smart meters to remotely monitor electric use for efficiency and avoid grid failure.
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[01:01:08.400 --> 01:01:14.400]  Working remotely, they could tap in and black out the entire nation, leaving us vulnerable to our enemies.
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[01:03:09.400 --> 01:03:31.400]  Okay, we are back. We're heading to our last hour and we're talking to Mark in Wisconsin.
[01:03:31.400 --> 01:03:46.400]  You're correct also on the low stakes and if you screw up, it's not as big a deal in small claims in the state of Wisconsin.
[01:03:46.400 --> 01:03:54.400]  The worst case scenario would be having to pay the statutory lawyer fee of $300.
[01:03:54.400 --> 01:04:04.400]  That's it. Wonderful. So how many bar grievances have you filed so far in this?
[01:04:04.400 --> 01:04:13.400]  Again, since bar grievances are private, I'm not asking you what's in them.
[01:04:13.400 --> 01:04:25.400]  Oh, okay. Just one. Only how many? It was, you know, I continued adding to it over time because of course every time there would be something, I'd add something to it.
[01:04:25.400 --> 01:04:31.400]  Wait a minute. Hold on. Hold on. It? The bar grievance, yes.
[01:04:31.400 --> 01:04:41.400]  No, no, no. You're missing something. Each action that they take that is improper should be different bar grievance.
[01:04:41.400 --> 01:04:54.400]  Ah, because if you put in a number of things, they'll pick one that's the easiest to argue against and dismiss it for that and then forget about all the rest of it.
[01:04:54.400 --> 01:05:06.400]  All right. Well, in that particular case, that's what they did. I will go ahead and file for each interaction where there was a problem then. Thank you.
[01:05:06.400 --> 01:05:19.400]  Yeah. And okay, what the bar will tell you is we're going to consolidate these all into one and you don't care because the insurance company is not going to consolidate them all into one.
[01:05:19.400 --> 01:05:30.400]  They're going to count all of them and increase his rate or cancel his insurance accordingly.
[01:05:30.400 --> 01:05:37.400]  Okay. And is that insurance tied to his law firm or separate?
[01:05:37.400 --> 01:05:47.400]  We're talking malpractice insurance. Now, if he is with a law firm, if you get one bar grievance, your first year of practice, they'll cancel immediately.
[01:05:47.400 --> 01:05:56.400]  If you get two bar grievances, any one year of practice, they will cancel. If you get three, they'll cancel your law firm's malpractice insurance.
[01:05:56.400 --> 01:06:05.400]  Now, if they'll cancel your individual insurance and you're part of a law firm, they're going to up the law firm's malpractice insurance. This is all about the money.
[01:06:05.400 --> 01:06:06.400]  Okay.
[01:06:06.400 --> 01:06:09.400]  It's going to cost them a lot.
[01:06:09.400 --> 01:06:14.400]  Oh, the folder that he brought in this time? Seven inches thick.
[01:06:14.400 --> 01:06:34.400]  Wonderful. It'll get even thicker when you start filing bar grievances. And one thing to keep in mind, when you file a bar grievance against him, I suspect it's going to be the same in Wisconsin as it is in Texas.
[01:06:34.400 --> 01:06:40.400]  He's forbidden to talk to you about it or even mention it.
[01:06:40.400 --> 01:06:54.400]  It is the bar's place to handle these issues, not the lawyer. They don't want a lawyer using his position to intimidate a witness against him.
[01:06:54.400 --> 01:06:57.400]  So he's forbidden to talk to you about it.
[01:06:57.400 --> 01:07:06.400]  So if the lawyer comes into court and complains to the judge that you've grieved him, that gets a grievance.
[01:07:06.400 --> 01:07:19.400]  Well, and the closest I've come to that is a second lawyer showed up at the one hearing whose purpose was to defend the honor of the law firm, and not once but twice.
[01:07:19.400 --> 01:07:32.400]  He said that the appeal is before the Supreme Court. Well, the Supreme Court, the only thing they have anything to do with would be bar grievances at this stage.
[01:07:32.400 --> 01:07:34.400]  You should have asked him.
[01:07:34.400 --> 01:07:37.400]  Are you speaking to the bar grievance?
[01:07:37.400 --> 01:07:45.400]  Since that's the only thing before the Supreme Court, are you addressing a bar grievance that I filed against your client?
[01:07:45.400 --> 01:07:48.400]  And he's going to say, yes. Good.
[01:07:48.400 --> 01:07:51.400]  Now you've got another one. I never tell him.
[01:07:51.400 --> 01:07:55.400]  I wasn't sharp enough. I apologize for not being your phone.
[01:07:55.400 --> 01:08:00.400]  Okay, take the microphone and beat yourself around the eyes and the ears.
[01:08:00.400 --> 01:08:02.400]  Yes, sir.
[01:08:02.400 --> 01:08:04.400]  Okay.
[01:08:04.400 --> 01:08:09.400]  Well, that is all that I have. Hopefully this brings you a little joy this evening.
[01:08:09.400 --> 01:08:11.400]  Oh, yes, it does.
[01:08:11.400 --> 01:08:21.400]  And I greatly appreciate the filing for the removal of a judge who's already, or a commissioner who's already been removed. That's good.
[01:08:21.400 --> 01:08:27.400]  Not removal, disqualification. You can disqualify him. Everything he did is void.
[01:08:27.400 --> 01:08:29.400]  Okay.
[01:08:29.400 --> 01:08:33.400]  That'll be great fun. Okay. Thank you very much, Mark.
[01:08:33.400 --> 01:08:38.400]  Now we're going to go to Adam in Texas.
[01:08:38.400 --> 01:08:43.400]  Adam, what do you have for us today?
[01:08:43.400 --> 01:08:47.400]  Well, it's a bit off-topic. Now we've got...
[01:08:47.400 --> 01:08:54.400]  Adam, I'm having a little trouble hearing you. Are you on a cordless phone or a speakerphone?
[01:08:54.400 --> 01:08:59.400]  I'm on a cell phone. Let's keep your phone at home.
[01:08:59.400 --> 01:09:04.400]  Okay. Do you have your head stuck inside a toilet?
[01:09:04.400 --> 01:09:07.400]  No, sir. I'm just way out in the kitchen.
[01:09:07.400 --> 01:09:16.400]  Okay. Try to speak kind of slowly and clearly because we're getting a lot of static in your voice and it's a little bit hard to understand.
[01:09:16.400 --> 01:09:19.400]  I was only kidding about the toilet thing.
[01:09:19.400 --> 01:09:23.400]  Well, can you hear me better now that I walk over at this point?
[01:09:23.400 --> 01:09:36.400]  Not much. Try not to talk too loud. When you talk loud, it starts to, pretty call it, distort the mic.
[01:09:36.400 --> 01:09:39.400]  All right. Mr. Kelton, how's this right here?
[01:09:39.400 --> 01:09:41.400]  That is good. That is good.
[01:09:41.400 --> 01:09:47.400]  Okay. I'll try to...
[01:09:47.400 --> 01:09:55.400]  I've enjoyed the whole radio program. It's the first time I've called in. I actually called in about two hours ago. I've been listening the whole time.
[01:09:55.400 --> 01:10:00.400]  Very interesting conversations y'all have.
[01:10:00.400 --> 01:10:06.400]  However, my question is a little off-topic, but I mean, y'all did...
[01:10:06.400 --> 01:10:09.400]  First y'all were talking about monetary policy.
[01:10:09.400 --> 01:10:14.400]  I mean, y'all started talking about it's literally meeting people and then this other fella called in.
[01:10:14.400 --> 01:10:21.400]  Okay. It's okay now. Dr. Feith dropped off, so we're open mic. Any issue you want to bring?
[01:10:21.400 --> 01:10:27.400]  Okay. The first is y'all want to bring...
[01:10:27.400 --> 01:10:31.400]  You know, just wanting to seek truth.
[01:10:31.400 --> 01:10:51.400]  The fact is that WorldCom controls and manages all the information on every Texan, and if Texan goes and he gets his hunt mic'ed, whether it be a Supercombo or a DayTask to Fish in the Bay,
[01:10:51.400 --> 01:10:55.400]  WorldCom controls all that information.
[01:10:55.400 --> 01:10:59.400]  That's the fact I've heard from Game Ones.
[01:10:59.400 --> 01:11:04.400]  Secondly, the issue of driver's licenses here in Texas.
[01:11:04.400 --> 01:11:08.400]  I'm not all states have adopted this surcharge policy.
[01:11:08.400 --> 01:11:16.400]  Texas, unfortunately, is one of the states that has adopted this new surcharge policy, new surcharge of laws.
[01:11:16.400 --> 01:11:24.400]  Are you familiar, Mr. Kelton, with the surcharge laws that are in place here in our great state of tech?
[01:11:24.400 --> 01:11:29.400]  Licensing are not my issue, but Eddie probably is. Eddie.
[01:11:29.400 --> 01:11:31.400]  Is Eddie here today?
[01:11:31.400 --> 01:11:33.400]  Yes.
[01:11:33.400 --> 01:11:37.400]  He's just been snoozing.
[01:11:37.400 --> 01:11:52.400]  My question is, can you describe in detail for me and every other listener, because I know personally I've been affected by these new surcharge laws,
[01:11:52.400 --> 01:11:59.400]  and I'm not sure when they come about, I mean, the 2003 or 2009, I'm not sure how they've changed,
[01:11:59.400 --> 01:12:12.400]  but I do know that most everybody I know is having surcharge problems with their driver's licenses that are issued by the state of Texas.
[01:12:12.400 --> 01:12:17.400]  That's because everybody you know is playing right into the transportation scheme.
[01:12:17.400 --> 01:12:34.400]  Yes, sir. My question, dealing with me directly, is there a long choice that if you could, I guess, caught or convicted or driving without insurance,
[01:12:34.400 --> 01:12:48.400]  do the new laws cover the fact that if you could caught driving without insurance, your driver's license gets mandatory suspended for two years?
[01:12:48.400 --> 01:12:58.400]  Plus, you still have to pay the surcharges and show proof of driver responsibility with your insurance.
[01:12:58.400 --> 01:13:03.400]  Is that the case or am I just, I have some other...
[01:13:03.400 --> 01:13:11.400]  No, that's not the case unless they made a change that just took effect that I'm not aware of.
[01:13:11.400 --> 01:13:23.400]  But what it is is you're going to wind up paying the surcharges if you allow yourself to be sucked into that scheme of engaging in transportation when you're not.
[01:13:23.400 --> 01:13:40.400]  The problem with the surcharges amounts to the same thing as a whole host of other fines and fees that are declared by statute only in the transportation code and ordinances and everywhere else.
[01:13:40.400 --> 01:13:55.400]  The problem legally is that such charges, by definition, are completely forbidden by both law and constitution, federal and state.
[01:13:55.400 --> 01:14:01.400]  The reason for that is because these surcharges are administrative charges.
[01:14:01.400 --> 01:14:06.400]  There is no judicial review of those charges.
[01:14:06.400 --> 01:14:11.400]  They are not a part of your trial. They are not assessed by the jury.
[01:14:11.400 --> 01:14:35.400]  They are tacked on whether you go to trial and get convicted or not because they are dealt with in a separate administrative process that does not stop or wait for the appeals process to complete on the alleged criminal side of the process dealing with the ticket.
[01:14:35.400 --> 01:14:47.400]  Now, the problem here is that these constitute specifically what is known in law as a bill of pains and penalties.
[01:14:47.400 --> 01:14:57.400]  Now, when we go read bouviets, we can see right off the bat that those are specifically prohibited.
[01:14:57.400 --> 01:15:02.400]  You can find it in Black's Law 6 edition that is specifically prohibited.
[01:15:02.400 --> 01:15:11.400]  Let me try to pull it up here and I'll read it off to you verbatim so you know exactly what we're talking about.
[01:15:11.400 --> 01:15:21.400]  Okay, this is known as a bill of attainder which is applicable to some act for which you could be put to death.
[01:15:21.400 --> 01:15:26.400]  That's the level of severity of a bill of attainder.
[01:15:26.400 --> 01:15:34.400]  A bill of pains and penalties is any penalty less than death as punishment.
[01:15:34.400 --> 01:15:38.400]  Now, this is the legal definition of a bill of attainder.
[01:15:38.400 --> 01:15:59.400]  Legislative acts no matter what their form that apply either to named individuals or to easily ascertainable members of a group in such a way as to inflict punishment on them without a judicial trial.
[01:15:59.400 --> 01:16:09.400]  An act is a bill of attainder when the punishment is death and a bill of pains and penalties when the punishment is less severe.
[01:16:09.400 --> 01:16:26.400]  Both kinds of punishment fall within the scope of the constitutional prohibition found in the U.S. Constitution Article 1, Section 9, Clause 3 and Article 1, Section 10 of the Texas Constitution.
[01:16:26.400 --> 01:16:29.400]  Okay?
[01:16:29.400 --> 01:16:34.400]  So, right there that is what these surcharges are.
[01:16:34.400 --> 01:16:46.400]  They are legislative acts declaring that you will be punished through this assessment of these fees outside of any judicial review.
[01:16:46.400 --> 01:16:50.400]  They are illegal on their face.
[01:16:50.400 --> 01:16:52.400]  Alright folks, we're going to take a break.
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[01:19:19.400 --> 01:19:23.400]  Alright folks, we are back. This is Rule of Law Radio.
[01:19:23.400 --> 01:19:29.400]  Call in number 512-646-1984. We do have a pretty full board right now.
[01:19:29.400 --> 01:19:36.400]  And we are talking to Adam. Alright Adam, is there anything else you want to ask about these surcharges?
[01:19:36.400 --> 01:19:49.400]  Yes sir. If a person gets, you know, first of all, you get pulled over and you drive down the road and you pull over.
[01:19:49.400 --> 01:19:53.400]  And you don't have a driver's license on you and you don't have proof of insurance.
[01:19:53.400 --> 01:20:01.400]  You get a ticket for that and some county precinct with a county clerk and everything involved in that.
[01:20:01.400 --> 01:20:06.400]  They tell you that if you don't come pay the ticket, they're going to mess up your driver's license.
[01:20:06.400 --> 01:20:15.400]  They're going to put all liens on your driver's license. You know, they're going to screw up your bills so you just legally drive or travel.
[01:20:15.400 --> 01:20:28.400]  If you go pay those tickets, if you pay those tickets, they count that as a condition.
[01:20:28.400 --> 01:20:41.400]  Absolutely. When you pay the ticket and so they say that they base their punishments, which to me seems like double jeopardy to me,
[01:20:41.400 --> 01:20:47.400]  but when you pay the ticket and they say, if you just pay this ticket, everything's going to be okay.
[01:20:47.400 --> 01:21:00.400]  And then you go pay the ticket and then turn around the DPS comes back and says, well, now you've been ticket, now you've basically considered a condition of these.
[01:21:00.400 --> 01:21:06.400]  Okay, that's the problem with agreeing to participate in the transportation system.
[01:21:06.400 --> 01:21:12.400]  The presumption is that you have agreed to be liable for those excess fees.
[01:21:12.400 --> 01:21:18.400]  So what happens is you go and they say just pay the money and everything will be okay. You go and you pay the money.
[01:21:18.400 --> 01:21:22.400]  Everything will be okay for their bank account, but not yours.
[01:21:22.400 --> 01:21:31.400]  Right. And then you turn around and the DPS slaps surcharges on you because they consider a condition that you pay the tickets.
[01:21:31.400 --> 01:21:42.400]  So what they did to me is I got a ticket in 2004. I was driving down the road into my van. I'm on business.
[01:21:42.400 --> 01:21:50.400]  And that's nature pulling me over. I didn't have a driver's license on me and I didn't have insurance.
[01:21:50.400 --> 01:22:06.400]  So he gave me a ticket for a driver's license and no insurance. And five years later, the county clerk in that precinct of that county at a particular time wasn't doing their job.
[01:22:06.400 --> 01:22:17.400]  So five years later, a new county clerk who got elected came in and started backtracking and doing the undone job of the previous county clerk.
[01:22:17.400 --> 01:22:26.400]  So they brought these, you know, because I thought everything would be forgotten because I got a new driver's license and everything.
[01:22:26.400 --> 01:22:35.400]  Adam, we have a really full call board. Can you get to the question?
[01:22:35.400 --> 01:22:47.400]  The question is, do they have the right to mandatory sustain my driver's license and my means of work and travel? And I can't live without driving legally.
[01:22:47.400 --> 01:22:56.400]  And every time I go to work and I don't have a driver's license, I could get pulled over for some jerk and he can throw me in jail and just ruin my life all over again.
[01:22:56.400 --> 01:22:59.400]  Okay. Do you drive professionally?
[01:22:59.400 --> 01:23:02.400]  No, sir. I do not have a CDL.
[01:23:02.400 --> 01:23:09.400]  That's not my question. You don't have to have a CDL to be a delivery driver or something like that. Do you drive professionally?
[01:23:09.400 --> 01:23:14.400]  No, I drive to work and when I get off work, I drive home.
[01:23:14.400 --> 01:23:18.400]  Okay. Then what makes you think you need a license for that activity?
[01:23:18.400 --> 01:23:23.400]  If I don't have one, they'll pull me over and throw me in jail for not having one.
[01:23:23.400 --> 01:23:37.400]  They will till you learn how to make them pay for that mistake. That's the problem. As long as they are allowed to get away with what they're doing, they will continue to get away with what they're doing.
[01:23:37.400 --> 01:23:49.400]  Till people learn the truth about how this system works, they will remain victims of that system. That's the whole reason I'm here is to change that.
[01:23:49.400 --> 01:23:53.400]  Can they take my license away?
[01:23:53.400 --> 01:23:58.400]  As long as you're agreeing to participate in the system, absolutely.
[01:23:58.400 --> 01:23:59.400]  Okay.
[01:23:59.400 --> 01:24:10.400]  That's like asking if you give your gun to somebody else and ask them to put it between your eyes and pull the trigger knowing it's fully loaded and they comply.
[01:24:10.400 --> 01:24:13.400]  Can they legally blow your brains out?
[01:24:13.400 --> 01:24:18.400]  Well, no, they can't do it legally, but they did it anyway, didn't they?
[01:24:18.400 --> 01:24:24.400]  But I'm scared that if I go around driving with no license plate, no registration stickers.
[01:24:24.400 --> 01:24:29.400]  Well, that's the whole reason, Adam, that I became the sacrificial lamb in this little event.
[01:24:29.400 --> 01:24:45.400]  Since I do know what is going on with the system and I do understand it and I do know how to fight it, then I have put myself in the position of setting up a case as an example to these people and making one of them for a change.
[01:24:45.400 --> 01:24:58.400]  And that case is progressing through the appeals courts here in Texas right now so that we can eventually get it out of there when the decision is overturned from the trial court so we can then sue in federal court.
[01:24:58.400 --> 01:25:09.400]  So I'm all tied up right now with the DPS and the MSB, a private corporation which is on the letterhead of every surcharge notice. How are they involved?
[01:25:09.400 --> 01:25:17.400]  Okay, I can't answer that. You're asking me to explain the entire system in a phone call and that's not going to happen.
[01:25:17.400 --> 01:25:27.400]  Okay, I can't make you understand it in a single call. I couldn't take the entire four hours tonight and make you understand it from top to bottom. That's just not going to happen.
[01:25:27.400 --> 01:25:38.400]  So now that they say I can't drive, but I've got to drive because I've got to go to work because I've got to make money because I've got to buy food and I've got to live, what do I do?
[01:25:38.400 --> 01:25:50.400]  Okay, I don't have a magic silver bullet answer for you. You've allowed yourself to get tangled up in this boat anchor and you're in deep water.
[01:25:50.400 --> 01:26:11.400]  If you're going to deal in the system, then you have to follow the system's rules. If you want to step outside the system and argue that you have the right to travel, then you have to figure out how to fight this issue.
[01:26:11.400 --> 01:26:25.400]  Nobody's going to do it for you. Nobody cares if you have difficulty and I'm not being facetious, but your public officials simply do not care.
[01:26:25.400 --> 01:26:36.400]  So if you have the heart to fight the issue, fight the issue. If you don't have the heart to fight the issue, follow their rules.
[01:26:36.400 --> 01:26:54.400]  Yeah, the one thing I can tell everyone out there is that I am actively pursuing getting a website set up that will allow me to conduct online classes as needed and it will be able to be done worldwide because the classes will be online.
[01:26:54.400 --> 01:27:11.400]  You'll be able to access my website. We'll be able to join classes. It will be a paid site because we've got to support the network in ourselves while we're doing this, but we'll be able to participate in online classes, discussion groups, legal issues, the whole nine yards.
[01:27:11.400 --> 01:27:21.400]  So there is a tool coming. Okay, just be patient and let me get it finished and working because when it is ready to be used, it will be announced on the show.
[01:27:21.400 --> 01:27:37.400]  Okay, but till then, either start reading, learning and studying or stay mired down in the bottom of the quicksand pit because if you remain ignorant, you will never get free.
[01:27:37.400 --> 01:27:45.400]  Okay, we are really running out of time. All right, Adam, I want to let you go. We're going to move on to the next caller. Thanks for calling in though.
[01:27:45.400 --> 01:27:52.400]  All right, now we're going to go to Jerry in Texas. Jerry, you've got about two minutes for the next break. What can we do for you?
[01:27:52.400 --> 01:28:17.400]  Okay, I've emailed y'all a thing about a force I went through and I'm in County Court 3 in Montgomery County and I was just curious. I've heard y'all talk about how I read where I had a judge actually basically wouldn't let me present any evidence on my acts
[01:28:17.400 --> 01:28:40.400]  and she basically and she wouldn't let me file a countersuit either and then awarded her with a $40,000 judgment and just basically shut me down and shut my lawyer down and basically she told the lawyer she wasn't going to allow us to file a countersuit.
[01:28:40.400 --> 01:28:54.400]  So did that suit me in? Well, the judge can't prevent you if you're actually filing a suit. Now, if you're making a cross claim in a divorce suit, that they can probably do.
[01:28:54.400 --> 01:29:01.400]  Okay.
[01:29:01.400 --> 01:29:30.400]  What was the nature of your counter claim? My ex-wife got the primary residence, which was still in my, financed under my name, and she fell to make the payment and ended up spending me the 60 days late so I couldn't get financing on my apartments to pay her out for $40,000.
[01:29:30.400 --> 01:29:49.400]  Hmm. This we need Ken for. He's our resident expert on family law. Family law is really complex and really difficult. Okay. Hang on. We'll be right back. This is Randy Kelton, Debbie Stevens, Eddie Craig. We'll go radio.
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[01:32:23.400 --> 01:32:36.400]  All right, folks, we are back. This is Rule of Law Radio. We are in the last half hour of our four-hour info marathon. Right now, we are talking with Jerry in Texas.
[01:32:36.400 --> 01:32:39.400]  All right, Jerry, please continue.
[01:32:39.400 --> 01:32:58.400]  Yeah, and other things. This judge, I lost my job. This was a year ago, and I went in to change my child support because I didn't have the income that I had before and ended up working for Walmart, making about $1,200 a month.
[01:32:58.400 --> 01:33:16.400]  And the judge set my child support as a bouse. And she goes, well, you need to just go get another job. And I'm like, excuse me, I should be paying 30% of whatever this is.
[01:33:16.400 --> 01:33:22.400]  And she said, if you don't like it, just take it to the next court.
[01:33:22.400 --> 01:33:31.400]  Wait a minute. Is the judge, is there law specifying what the judge is to charge?
[01:33:31.400 --> 01:33:37.400]  Yeah, and I have three kids. It should be 30% of my girls.
[01:33:37.400 --> 01:33:43.400]  Then charge the judge with official oppression. Go after the judge.
[01:33:43.400 --> 01:33:47.400]  That's what I was wondering.
[01:33:47.400 --> 01:33:57.400]  If the judge failed to apply the law to the facts and in the process denied you in the due course of the law, so that's a crime in Texas.
[01:33:57.400 --> 01:34:00.400]  Okay.
[01:34:00.400 --> 01:34:07.400]  Go to the district attorney and start a little politics.
[01:34:07.400 --> 01:34:08.400]  Yeah.
[01:34:08.400 --> 01:34:13.400]  Run the routine on the district attorney. Do you listen to our show much?
[01:34:13.400 --> 01:34:24.400]  I know y'all talked about Eddie's traffic court thing. Will that help me on learning this? And I've also heard y'all advertise to jurisprudence.
[01:34:24.400 --> 01:34:33.400]  It'll help you in learning how to read and understand law, but it's not going to teach you and how to read and dissect statute.
[01:34:33.400 --> 01:34:41.400]  But it's not going to teach you specific law relative to family court. You're going to have to go read that for yourself.
[01:34:41.400 --> 01:34:46.400]  Pull the family code and read it twice.
[01:34:46.400 --> 01:34:58.400]  Well, the problem you're having here is this. You are finding yourself embroiled in the most corrupt, even more so than the transportation courts.
[01:34:58.400 --> 01:35:15.400]  You are in by far the the most corrupt, if not a near second to probate law, but the most corrupt section of law there is in the entire state family court.
[01:35:15.400 --> 01:35:31.400]  The judges of family court think they are omnipotent and untouchable and as long as the state is responsible for controlling them, they are right.
[01:35:31.400 --> 01:35:43.400]  So when you take this and you move against this judge, you need to be doing it in a federal capacity, not in a state capacity, because at the state level, they will be fully protected and shielded.
[01:35:43.400 --> 01:35:51.400]  Okay.
[01:35:51.400 --> 01:35:54.400]  Okay. Do you have anything else for us?
[01:35:54.400 --> 01:35:56.400]  No, thank you.
[01:35:56.400 --> 01:36:02.400]  Okay. And if we seem short, family law is really not what we do.
[01:36:02.400 --> 01:36:15.400]  We can, we can talk to you about due process and what the courts are supposed to do, but going directly to family law, family laws are really difficult area.
[01:36:15.400 --> 01:36:28.400]  I thought about the position of the judge in a family law case. If the judge does his job well, he's likely to come out of the court with both sides upset at him.
[01:36:28.400 --> 01:36:33.400]  So family law is hard for everybody, but read the code.
[01:36:33.400 --> 01:36:45.400]  Read the family law. Don't try to understand it. Just read through it and then go back and read it again. The second time you read it, it's not near as long as it appears just from looking at it.
[01:36:45.400 --> 01:37:01.400]  And then you'll have a good general overview of what the law is, how they all fit together. Then you can better look at where the judge exceeded their authority and then go after the judge directly.
[01:37:01.400 --> 01:37:15.400]  During, on these two shows, we often talk about due process and how to use the prosecuting attorney to create yourself a little politics where we're going to run out of time tonight so we don't have time to do that.
[01:37:15.400 --> 01:37:21.400]  But if you listen to the show, we will talk about how to file criminal charges against the judge with the prosecutor.
[01:37:21.400 --> 01:37:36.400]  The prosecutor fails to act on him. You go to a higher judge and file against the prosecutor. And when that judge fails to act, file against that judge and get him mad at the prosecutor because you're giving his political opponents political cannon fodder to use as him.
[01:37:36.400 --> 01:37:41.400]  We create a little local politics and we can show you how to do that.
[01:37:41.400 --> 01:37:58.400]  But first, read the code and then come back and you can ask us more specific questions you will. You will be asking a lot more directed questions and just reading it will tell you a whole lot you can do to correct your situation.
[01:37:58.400 --> 01:38:00.400]  Okay. All right, we'll thank you.
[01:38:00.400 --> 01:38:09.400]  Okay. Thank you, Jerry. Now we're going to go to Andy in Texas.
[01:38:09.400 --> 01:38:16.400]  Hello, Andy. What do you have for us today?
[01:38:16.400 --> 01:38:21.400]  I have this problem. I tend to put people to sleep with my voice.
[01:38:21.400 --> 01:38:31.400]  Andy, I know you've waited a while and perhaps you've dropped the call. We're going to go on to Chris in Texas.
[01:38:31.400 --> 01:38:37.400]  Oops, hold on there just a second. Gotcha. Okay. Go ahead, Chris.
[01:38:37.400 --> 01:38:39.400]  Okay, Randy, I'll try to make it quick.
[01:38:39.400 --> 01:38:41.400]  Already?
[01:38:41.400 --> 01:38:46.400]  As you know, I've been running the process there in Fort Worth.
[01:38:46.400 --> 01:38:56.400]  My question is, on an arrest warrant, is it supposed to have an affidavit attached to it or at least in...
[01:38:56.400 --> 01:39:11.400]  Not necessarily. If they state sufficient facts in the... Oh, wait, arrest warrant. Yes, an arrest warrant should have an affidavit in support of the warrant.
[01:39:11.400 --> 01:39:19.400]  Now, they don't have to give you that affidavit when they execute the warrant. They do have to give you the complaint.
[01:39:19.400 --> 01:39:26.400]  The warrant, but not the affidavit, but the judge should have the affidavit.
[01:39:26.400 --> 01:39:28.400]  Okay, because...
[01:39:28.400 --> 01:39:34.400]  And he's required to make it available for inspection immediately after execution.
[01:39:34.400 --> 01:39:43.400]  Okay, because in the records that I received back, I received the arrest warrant. There's no affidavit in the records.
[01:39:43.400 --> 01:39:58.400]  Then you need to make a specific request, demand the affidavit filed with the court in support of this particular warrant.
[01:39:58.400 --> 01:40:07.400]  And if the clerk doesn't have it, what I'm doing with my information request now is at the bottom, I put a little paragraph.
[01:40:07.400 --> 01:40:15.400]  If you have no records responsive to this request, initial here.
[01:40:15.400 --> 01:40:23.400]  That's what you want to get back from them. And now it's not your testimony, it's theirs.
[01:40:23.400 --> 01:40:33.400]  Okay, and one other thing. Is it odd that there's no cause number, no case number for this deal yet?
[01:40:33.400 --> 01:40:42.400]  Absolutely. When the warrant was issued, the clerk should have created a cost number.
[01:40:42.400 --> 01:40:50.400]  There's no cause number, no case number, and I have several of them on audio recording.
[01:40:50.400 --> 01:41:09.400]  Okay, this is how it's supposed to work. When a warrant is issued, the warrant, the complaint to the magistrate gives the magistrate authority to issue the warrant.
[01:41:09.400 --> 01:41:23.400]  Then the magistrate issues the warrant. When he holds an examining trial on the complaint in order to secure the warrant, once he makes a determination of probable cause,
[01:41:23.400 --> 01:41:31.400]  he's to seal all documents had in the hearing cause is named to be written across the seal of the envelope and forward it to the clerk of the court of jurisdiction.
[01:41:31.400 --> 01:41:37.400]  Now, when he sits for the purpose of a search warrant, that's an examining trial.
[01:41:37.400 --> 01:41:44.400]  He must determine if there's sufficient probable cause to issue the warrant.
[01:41:44.400 --> 01:41:52.400]  And once he's done, he's to send that to the clerk of the court, and that moves jurisdiction from the magistrate to the court.
[01:41:52.400 --> 01:42:11.400]  17.30 code of criminal procedure. If he fails to do that, then jurisdiction never moves from the magistrate to the court of jurisdiction, and he has in effect secreted documents from the person or entity is directed.
[01:42:11.400 --> 01:42:23.400]  The document is directed to an under 37.10 Texas penal code. That is tampering with the government document and it's felled in Stas, Texas.
[01:42:23.400 --> 01:42:31.400]  Okay. That's what I needed to know. I sure appreciate your help, Randy, and I'll continue to run the process on these guys.
[01:42:31.400 --> 01:42:38.400]  Wonderful. And if you see the prosecutors, tell them I said hello.
[01:42:38.400 --> 01:42:46.400]  Now, maybe you better not that might get you beat into unconsciousness in Tarrant County.
[01:42:46.400 --> 01:42:54.400]  They've probably taken my picture down from the grand jury room by now, but it used to be up in there.
[01:42:54.400 --> 01:42:57.400]  Okay. Thank you, Chris.
[01:42:57.400 --> 01:43:03.400]  Now we're going to go to Robert in Texas.
[01:43:03.400 --> 01:43:06.400]  Hello, Robert. What do you have for us today?
[01:43:06.400 --> 01:43:14.400]  Well, do you remember I called about a couple of weeks ago about the dog catcher?
[01:43:14.400 --> 01:43:18.400]  Yeah, the guy that came on your property when you told him not to.
[01:43:18.400 --> 01:43:35.400]  Yes, and he didn't have a oath of office statement and then the city manager told me to get out of his office when I tried to get the oath of office and then the judge had the expert in all that.
[01:43:35.400 --> 01:43:42.400]  Okay. Don't remember all of that. Hang on. We will be right back on the other side and we'll pick this up when we get back.
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[01:48:28.400 --> 01:48:39.400]  Okay, we are going to Robert in Texas, and you were talking about the dog catcher.
[01:48:39.400 --> 01:48:54.400]  Yeah, well, as I said back then, I also had the police come about the vehicles, and they tried to tag my vehicles, and I told them that they were not motor vehicles, that they were private property, and I had the right to own them.
[01:48:54.400 --> 01:49:00.400]  And they left me alone for a while, but then they came back on the 19th.
[01:49:00.400 --> 01:49:09.400]  And I told them that, you know, I explained to them again, you know, the officer, he said, well, I'm just here enforcing the code.
[01:49:09.400 --> 01:49:18.400]  And I said, sir, I have the right to own this property, and I don't consent to you being here, so I'm asking you to leave, and he still wouldn't leave.
[01:49:18.400 --> 01:49:24.400]  And when he did leave, I said, if you come back, that would be criminal trespassing because I do not consent to be here.
[01:49:24.400 --> 01:49:27.400]  I have no trespassing signs, and I have already warned you.
[01:49:27.400 --> 01:49:42.400]  Now, he came back a total of, like, four times on my property, looking up VIN numbers and stuff, and then he called another officer, and the other officer, before he even stepped onto my property, I told him, I said, sir, I do not consent to you being here.
[01:49:42.400 --> 01:49:46.400]  If you come on my property, you will be criminally trespassing.
[01:49:46.400 --> 01:49:50.400]  And he basically told me he didn't care, and he said she didn't.
[01:49:50.400 --> 01:49:53.400]  Okay, why didn't you call 911?
[01:49:53.400 --> 01:50:01.400]  I have tried to call the, ever since the last incident when I called the Sheriff's Department, I've tried to call the Sheriff's Department, and they do not answer the phone.
[01:50:01.400 --> 01:50:03.400]  I guess they know my phone number or whatever.
[01:50:03.400 --> 01:50:05.400]  Did you dial 911?
[01:50:05.400 --> 01:50:08.400]  I dialed the Sheriff's Department number.
[01:50:08.400 --> 01:50:11.400]  Dial 911.
[01:50:11.400 --> 01:50:20.400]  Well, you have someone criminally trespassing on your property while prominently displaying a deadly weapon.
[01:50:20.400 --> 01:50:24.400]  Yes, and I told him, I explained all that to him, and he said he didn't care.
[01:50:24.400 --> 01:50:26.400]  I've got it all on video.
[01:50:26.400 --> 01:50:28.400]  Now, listen, listen, you're arguing with a police officer.
[01:50:28.400 --> 01:50:30.400]  What the heck are you doing that for?
[01:50:30.400 --> 01:50:36.400]  Do you really think the police officer is going to say, oh my God, you are right.
[01:50:36.400 --> 01:50:38.400]  I got to get the heck out of here.
[01:50:38.400 --> 01:50:40.400]  No, he said he didn't care.
[01:50:40.400 --> 01:50:41.400]  Of course you didn't care.
[01:50:41.400 --> 01:50:43.400]  Stop.
[01:50:43.400 --> 01:50:45.400]  Do not argue with these people.
[01:50:45.400 --> 01:50:48.400]  You have no trespassing signs.
[01:50:48.400 --> 01:50:58.400]  When he stepped on the property and you ordered him to leave and he didn't leave, he did that while displaying a deadly weapon.
[01:50:58.400 --> 01:51:01.400]  That's a first degree felony.
[01:51:01.400 --> 01:51:05.400]  Do not talk to him any further.
[01:51:05.400 --> 01:51:07.400]  Call 911.
[01:51:07.400 --> 01:51:10.400]  When you call 911, that is recorded.
[01:51:10.400 --> 01:51:19.400]  Tell them you have someone on your property who is in the process of criminal trespass while prominently displaying a deadly weapon.
[01:51:19.400 --> 01:51:22.400]  Get someone out here.
[01:51:22.400 --> 01:51:30.400]  The problem is, I know the code, 30.05, and I know that he was doing it.
[01:51:30.400 --> 01:51:33.400]  My problem is, I don't know how to file any of this paperwork.
[01:51:33.400 --> 01:51:43.400]  So let me ask you this, would it be best to get the jurisdiction or would it be best to get Eddie's course?
[01:51:43.400 --> 01:51:45.400]  Actually, neither of those go to this.
[01:51:45.400 --> 01:51:49.400]  The best thing you can do is go down to the hardware store and buy a tart and throw it over the cars.
[01:51:49.400 --> 01:51:50.400]  Okay.
[01:51:50.400 --> 01:51:51.400]  Well, I mean, they run in everything.
[01:51:51.400 --> 01:51:53.400]  It's just that, you know, I don't.
[01:51:53.400 --> 01:51:54.400]  It doesn't matter.
[01:51:54.400 --> 01:51:55.400]  It doesn't matter.
[01:51:55.400 --> 01:51:56.400]  Are they licensed?
[01:51:56.400 --> 01:51:58.400]  Registering and doing all that.
[01:51:58.400 --> 01:51:59.400]  You know, I'm trying to get away from them.
[01:51:59.400 --> 01:52:08.400]  Listen, listen, if you don't, if you don't want to have this fight, throw a tart over them.
[01:52:08.400 --> 01:52:09.400]  Yeah.
[01:52:09.400 --> 01:52:20.400]  Well, I have a 40 foot bus in my yard, 50 feet from City Hall.
[01:52:20.400 --> 01:52:22.400]  The mayor come over.
[01:52:22.400 --> 01:52:25.400]  You got to get that bus out of here.
[01:52:25.400 --> 01:52:30.400]  I told him, beat it.
[01:52:30.400 --> 01:52:31.400]  He left.
[01:52:31.400 --> 01:52:32.400]  He come back the next day.
[01:52:32.400 --> 01:52:33.400]  I got a tarp over it.
[01:52:33.400 --> 01:52:34.400]  Yeah.
[01:52:34.400 --> 01:52:38.400]  Well, he's an expensive vehicle and I still, you know, it's been two, it's been two weeks.
[01:52:38.400 --> 01:52:39.400]  It'll be two weeks this Sunday.
[01:52:39.400 --> 01:52:41.400]  I still haven't received anything in the mail.
[01:52:41.400 --> 01:52:44.400]  Like he said, he was going to send me something in the mail.
[01:52:44.400 --> 01:52:45.400]  So.
[01:52:45.400 --> 01:52:46.400]  Okay.
[01:52:46.400 --> 01:52:47.400]  Okay.
[01:52:47.400 --> 01:52:58.400]  Look on Jurisimprudence.com on there in the documents and research section.
[01:52:58.400 --> 01:53:01.400]  You will find blank criminal complaints.
[01:53:01.400 --> 01:53:02.400]  Okay.
[01:53:02.400 --> 01:53:03.400]  Okay.
[01:53:03.400 --> 01:53:05.400]  This takes homework.
[01:53:05.400 --> 01:53:06.400]  Okay.
[01:53:06.400 --> 01:53:08.400]  Look up the statute.
[01:53:08.400 --> 01:53:10.400]  Look up criminal trespass.
[01:53:10.400 --> 01:53:16.400]  If you look on the front of the site, there's a reference to Cherokee County.
[01:53:16.400 --> 01:53:24.400]  Click on that and look at the complaints that I've written against Cherokee County.
[01:53:24.400 --> 01:53:25.400]  Okay.
[01:53:25.400 --> 01:53:32.400]  I have the criminal, the criminal affidavit is a statement of facts concerning it.
[01:53:32.400 --> 01:53:35.400]  Read that affidavit and then look at the complaints.
[01:53:35.400 --> 01:53:39.400]  You'll see how I can structure the complaints.
[01:53:39.400 --> 01:53:41.400]  They're all basically the same.
[01:53:41.400 --> 01:53:42.400]  Okay.
[01:53:42.400 --> 01:53:43.400]  In their structure.
[01:53:43.400 --> 01:53:45.400]  This will show you how to structure the complaint.
[01:53:45.400 --> 01:53:56.400]  Then get the code, read criminal trespass and also read aggravated assault, 2204.
[01:53:56.400 --> 01:53:57.400]  2204.
[01:53:57.400 --> 01:53:58.400]  Okay.
[01:53:58.400 --> 01:54:01.400]  Just a couple of things too.
[01:54:01.400 --> 01:54:03.400]  I wanted to throw you away.
[01:54:03.400 --> 01:54:08.400]  I read the state versus Hobbs case, which kind of addresses this criminal trespassing.
[01:54:08.400 --> 01:54:10.400]  Are you familiar with that?
[01:54:10.400 --> 01:54:11.400]  No.
[01:54:11.400 --> 01:54:18.400]  Well, the appeals court in Texas basically said cops, if they trespass, they're criminal
[01:54:18.400 --> 01:54:23.400]  trespassing and any evidence they get is inadmissible after, if they do that, you know.
[01:54:23.400 --> 01:54:24.400]  Okay.
[01:54:24.400 --> 01:54:25.400]  That's pretty well a maxim.
[01:54:25.400 --> 01:54:26.400]  Yeah.
[01:54:26.400 --> 01:54:27.400]  To the poison tree.
[01:54:27.400 --> 01:54:31.400]  There's another case out of California.
[01:54:31.400 --> 01:54:36.400]  I thought I'd throw it to you because it has to deal with traffic cam, how they violate
[01:54:36.400 --> 01:54:43.400]  rule 602 and this was people versus Khalid and that's an orange county superior court
[01:54:43.400 --> 01:54:44.400]  case.
[01:54:44.400 --> 01:54:47.400]  I didn't know if you know that, but it is precedent and I thought I'd throw it at you
[01:54:47.400 --> 01:54:50.400]  so you can like be searchable and I imagine it would help some people.
[01:54:50.400 --> 01:54:52.400]  It's precedent in California.
[01:54:52.400 --> 01:54:55.400]  It has no bearing or effect in Texas.
[01:54:55.400 --> 01:54:56.400]  Okay.
[01:54:56.400 --> 01:55:03.400]  But I mean, but I don't see how they can use that being that it's violating rule 602.
[01:55:03.400 --> 01:55:07.400]  So it's inadmissible to me, it seems like it would be inadmissible because you have
[01:55:07.400 --> 01:55:10.400]  nobody that directly can testify.
[01:55:10.400 --> 01:55:14.400]  It is inadmissible if you know how to properly challenge it as being admissible.
[01:55:14.400 --> 01:55:20.400]  But if you make no motion to suppress the evidence or move that it be suppressed as
[01:55:20.400 --> 01:55:25.400]  inadmissible hearsay, then they will proceed as if it's perfectly valid.
[01:55:25.400 --> 01:55:26.400]  Okay.
[01:55:26.400 --> 01:55:29.400]  And you know, I mean, you guys do such great work.
[01:55:29.400 --> 01:55:33.400]  You know, and I know a lot of stuff, I've done a lot of ring, but it's just the paperwork
[01:55:33.400 --> 01:55:35.400]  is what I don't know how to do.
[01:55:35.400 --> 01:55:39.400]  You know, I don't know how to do the paperwork and there's so many people here that, you
[01:55:39.400 --> 01:55:44.400]  know, I do know a lot of stuff, but and they are being victimized as well.
[01:55:44.400 --> 01:55:46.400]  And it's just getting worse and worse.
[01:55:46.400 --> 01:55:51.400]  And, you know, there, one thing I did do was when I went to the city commissioners meeting
[01:55:51.400 --> 01:55:55.400]  and I mentioned how they were arresting people for not having driver's license and now they
[01:55:55.400 --> 01:55:59.400]  were violating, you know, their rights and whatnot.
[01:55:59.400 --> 01:56:01.400]  And, you know, it spoke to the code.
[01:56:01.400 --> 01:56:05.400]  You're talking about how arrest changes and everything, you know, in the code.
[01:56:05.400 --> 01:56:07.400]  And they said they'd look into it.
[01:56:07.400 --> 01:56:11.400]  Of course they didn't really, but I called the state attorney general's office and I
[01:56:11.400 --> 01:56:16.400]  guess it must have hit a bell because they got a call here saying they couldn't do that
[01:56:16.400 --> 01:56:17.400]  anymore.
[01:56:17.400 --> 01:56:21.400]  And it seems like ever since I've done that, they've been just looking for anything to
[01:56:21.400 --> 01:56:22.400]  arrest me on.
[01:56:22.400 --> 01:56:23.400]  And it's just really...
[01:56:23.400 --> 01:56:24.400]  Well, that would be true.
[01:56:24.400 --> 01:56:26.400]  They would drive them of a lot of stolen money.
[01:56:26.400 --> 01:56:27.400]  Yeah.
[01:56:27.400 --> 01:56:28.400]  Okay.
[01:56:28.400 --> 01:56:33.400]  Well, harassment is really easy to handle.
[01:56:33.400 --> 01:56:34.400]  9-1-1.
[01:56:34.400 --> 01:56:38.400]  I'm telling you, that really works.
[01:56:38.400 --> 01:56:43.400]  You haven't lived until you've called the police on the police.
[01:56:43.400 --> 01:56:50.400]  Well, if you guys were to take up all these cases and stuff and you were to sue them for
[01:56:50.400 --> 01:56:51.400]  a set of...
[01:56:51.400 --> 01:56:52.400]  Can you do that?
[01:56:52.400 --> 01:56:54.400]  For a set amount of money or...
[01:56:54.400 --> 01:56:56.400]  Because on my trespassing signs, I say...
[01:56:56.400 --> 01:56:57.400]  I say if...
[01:56:57.400 --> 01:57:02.400]  You know, I'll charge them rent for being here for part of the day or the day, you know,
[01:57:02.400 --> 01:57:03.400]  $5,000.
[01:57:03.400 --> 01:57:05.400]  I mean, I have that on my sign.
[01:57:05.400 --> 01:57:06.400]  So, I mean...
[01:57:06.400 --> 01:57:10.400]  You have posted on the sign your entry upon my property.
[01:57:10.400 --> 01:57:13.400]  Is your consent to this agreement?
[01:57:13.400 --> 01:57:15.400]  Yeah, I have it on my sign.
[01:57:15.400 --> 01:57:17.400]  And I said, there's my sign.
[01:57:17.400 --> 01:57:21.400]  I pointed at him and he goes, oh, that applies to police too.
[01:57:21.400 --> 01:57:27.400]  And I said, it says all persons, FBI and all federal and government agencies and all persons.
[01:57:27.400 --> 01:57:30.400]  And he just basically laughs at it.
[01:57:30.400 --> 01:57:31.400]  Okay, your sign makes...
[01:57:31.400 --> 01:57:39.400]  Do you really think that the sign has the power to change the officer's behavior?
[01:57:39.400 --> 01:57:41.400]  No, it doesn't, but you know...
[01:57:41.400 --> 01:57:48.400]  Okay, the only thing that has the power to change the officer's behavior is your behavior.
[01:57:48.400 --> 01:57:55.400]  All your sign is his notice not to do it, but that notice is not self-enforcing.
[01:57:55.400 --> 01:57:56.400]  That falls on you.
[01:57:56.400 --> 01:57:58.400]  Yeah, that's true.
[01:57:58.400 --> 01:58:01.400]  Next time they step in your yard, dial 911.
[01:58:01.400 --> 01:58:06.400]  There's a man trespassing on my property and he's got a gun.
[01:58:06.400 --> 01:58:11.400]  Go file a complaint on each officer that's appeared at your house for criminal trespass.
[01:58:11.400 --> 01:58:13.400]  Do I do that at the police department or...
[01:58:13.400 --> 01:58:14.400]  No!
[01:58:14.400 --> 01:58:18.400]  You're going to go to the police to complain about the police, okay?
[01:58:18.400 --> 01:58:21.400]  Yeah, go to the district attorney.
[01:58:21.400 --> 01:58:25.400]  Anyway, Robert, we're about to go off the air, so thanks for calling in.
[01:58:25.400 --> 01:58:30.400]  Alright, folks, thank you so much for calling in tonight and for listening to the show.
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