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[04:33.640 --> 04:51.640] Nobody knows you don't recognize you. [04:51.640 --> 04:59.080] out the show, we have Leslie from Pennsylvania. I'm going to go to Leslie in a moment. We [04:59.080 --> 05:07.640] have had some discourse back and forth for a while and Leslie has been taking on a foreclosure [05:07.640 --> 05:14.800] issue and she had an interesting development recently and I would very much like her to [05:14.800 --> 05:21.520] tell you what's going on. It's indicative of what I see happening across the country. [05:21.520 --> 05:29.000] Hello Leslie, it's glad to see you here. I'm glad to see you here. [05:29.000 --> 05:36.880] I'm so excited I can't see straight. You know our email earlier when I was telling [05:36.880 --> 05:43.920] you about the consent order that the attorney offered me? [05:43.920 --> 05:48.360] Okay, wait, wait. Bring everybody up to speed. [05:48.360 --> 05:55.640] I filed for quiet title. I sued my lender in federal court for till and respite violations [05:55.640 --> 06:02.600] and it got 12b6 because of, they said timeliness, they said it wasn't tollable and equitable [06:02.600 --> 06:07.720] tolling and all that kind of stuff. So rather than pursue it any longer in that court I [06:07.720 --> 06:14.280] decided I would be much better off to just go quiet title because when I sued them they [06:14.280 --> 06:23.960] gave me my min summary and milestone report in order to get released from the lawsuit. [06:23.960 --> 06:28.120] And because the original lender said well we don't have this loan anymore, we don't [06:28.120 --> 06:34.120] even have an interest in the mortgage since 2007 and they gave a specific date and they [06:34.120 --> 06:38.600] gave the min milestone report and everything to back them up and so now it's part of the [06:38.600 --> 06:45.080] court record so they can't argue with that anymore. So I left them off of that lawsuit [06:45.080 --> 06:57.480] and I, you know, went further with the other but that got 12b6 anyway and then I went and [06:57.480 --> 07:06.240] I went quiet title against the original lender. Now in Pennsylvania you have to have all of [07:06.240 --> 07:14.160] your assignments recorded within six months. If it is not recorded in six months it doesn't [07:14.160 --> 07:21.760] exist. So it's been five years and that's the only mortgage I'm there. So I went after [07:21.760 --> 07:26.320] the one that was recorded. You know, you're not supposed to play guessing games with these [07:26.320 --> 07:28.960] things. That's why we have a records office, right? [07:28.960 --> 07:38.640] Precisely. If we didn't have that law, you know, I've mentioned on the air that in Texas [07:38.640 --> 07:50.680] we have 13.001 that says a deed of trust not properly filed with the county clerk is void. [07:50.680 --> 08:00.360] Every state has to have similar legislation or the filing of the records with the clerk [08:00.360 --> 08:06.520] would be worthless and there would be no such thing as quiet title. [08:06.520 --> 08:14.000] In the last few minutes but anyway, so I went after them and they went into default on May [08:14.000 --> 08:24.720] 29th. So 10 days into defaults or more, this attorney calls me that represents the bank [08:24.720 --> 08:31.720] and she says, can you give me an extension of time to answer? I said, what would you [08:31.720 --> 08:37.440] say differently? You know, hello, you already admitted in court that you don't own the [08:37.440 --> 08:45.560] loan there, that you have no interest in 2007. What more can you say? I got from this thing [08:45.560 --> 08:49.280] that, well, gee, the bank gave her this work to do and she's got to do it. She can't just [08:49.280 --> 08:57.360] let her ride. So she called me back later and she said, how about my client has said [08:57.360 --> 09:05.600] we'll give you a consent order. I said, what does that mean? She said, well, we'll give [09:05.600 --> 09:10.960] you what you're asking for in your complaint, you know, and what you have in the sample [09:10.960 --> 09:16.240] order that you're looking at. I said, and she says, and we'll put in the date that [09:16.240 --> 09:23.160] we gave up interest as part of the thing. I said, okay. So I got today an email from [09:23.160 --> 09:31.080] her today, you know, and she says, and this email has two documents in it and they're [09:31.080 --> 09:37.440] not a consent order. One is an affidavit of no interest and it is so full of holes that [09:37.440 --> 09:44.000] means that my quiet title would be worthless as far as they were concerned because they're [09:44.000 --> 09:47.800] saying we don't have interest now but we may have interest later and that does not preclude [09:47.800 --> 09:57.120] us from getting interest later. So Monday I'm going to go get a default. [09:57.120 --> 10:07.000] Yeah, I would say as far as for the court, the question would become your honor. The [10:07.000 --> 10:14.080] only way they can have interest later is if I enter into the loan with them. Therefore, [10:14.080 --> 10:21.960] they have a judicial admission that they have no interest at this point. [10:21.960 --> 10:29.640] Well, I already have some of the other documents. You know, I have that in those documents from [10:29.640 --> 10:35.480] the federal court, so I just admitted them. I put them in a sentence first off. [10:35.480 --> 10:47.960] Okay, so this raises a question. If you can demonstrate that there is no claim against [10:47.960 --> 10:55.280] your property, is there anything in Pennsylvania law that would keep the lender from coming [10:55.280 --> 11:00.000] back and suing you personally for the loan? [11:00.000 --> 11:08.840] Well, not that I know of because they're supposed to be together. I mean, it's a package deal, [11:08.840 --> 11:16.640] right? You have the mortgage note on the mortgage note and it says mortgage and it says, you [11:16.640 --> 11:21.400] have the loan on the mortgage and the mortgage and it's supposed to be securing that note, [11:21.400 --> 11:25.080] so it's a package deal. If you don't have one, you have neither. [11:25.080 --> 11:35.600] No, I don't know if I buy that presumption. The deed of trust or the mortgage gives the [11:35.600 --> 11:42.360] lender a claim against your property as well as a claim against you. When you enter into [11:42.360 --> 11:48.920] the note, the lender accrued a claim against you personally, but for the lender since the [11:48.920 --> 11:54.360] note was for the purpose of the purchase of the property, he was concerned that without [11:54.360 --> 12:00.440] some protection, you could arbitrarily liquidate or lean up the property and that would leave [12:00.440 --> 12:06.160] him with no collateral, so he asked for a claim against the property as well. [12:06.160 --> 12:13.120] Well, there's already another claim on the property. I did a real clever thing. I think [12:13.120 --> 12:22.960] I'm very clever. I got a mortgage, a friendly mortgage for 3,000 pieces of a 3,000 American [12:22.960 --> 12:28.640] Eagle Silver 1-ounce coin. [12:28.640 --> 12:40.360] Good. Okay. Well, that brings in the third party, which always works well. However... [12:40.360 --> 12:42.160] Second mortgage. [12:42.160 --> 12:50.960] Yes. However, how do you defend against a claim against you personally, against your personal [12:50.960 --> 12:51.960] assets? [12:51.960 --> 12:58.920] Well, I'm putting everything... I don't have anything that's visible. [12:58.920 --> 13:05.160] That was going to be... That was exactly where I was going because in making the deed of [13:05.160 --> 13:11.400] trust go away, then the only focus the lender has is to come back after the signature on [13:11.400 --> 13:17.760] the note. But if he comes and looks at the signature on the note, now he's looking at [13:17.760 --> 13:25.800] running into a Chapter 7 bankruptcy. If he tries to take an action against you, you move [13:25.800 --> 13:31.240] in with the Chapter 7 and he comes in as an unsecured lender. [13:31.240 --> 13:38.400] Well, we have a couple other interesting things. Before we started this quiet title suit and [13:38.400 --> 13:44.600] in between the federal suit, we put a revocation of mortgage in. Did I ever send you a copy [13:44.600 --> 13:46.480] of that? [13:46.480 --> 13:56.880] I think you have. And how did you... What was your grounds for revocation of the mortgage? [13:56.880 --> 14:07.040] Front. Because actually in Pennsylvania, because it is a judicial state, the mortgage is a... [14:07.040 --> 14:13.120] What would you call it? It's an agreement. It's a contract. But there's nowhere that [14:13.120 --> 14:18.400] the bank ever signed anything. They never accepted it. They never agreed on it. [14:18.400 --> 14:20.760] The bank doesn't have to. [14:20.760 --> 14:23.040] Well, anyway... [14:23.040 --> 14:33.880] A contract is not entered into because two people sign an agreement. That does not constitute [14:33.880 --> 14:42.120] a contract. What constitutes a contract is when something of value changes hands. [14:42.120 --> 14:53.280] And in this case, that's happened, where in the lender granted you a loan against... They [14:53.280 --> 15:00.000] provided you with a warranty deed. And you accepted that warranty deed under the condition [15:00.000 --> 15:03.880] that you grabbed the mortgage. [15:03.880 --> 15:12.800] So that contract is created not by the signing of the document, but by the offer and acceptance [15:12.800 --> 15:30.200] of something of value. However, I am pulling up right now a Fannie Mae Freddie Mac uniform [15:30.200 --> 15:39.720] instrument for Pennsylvania. Let me know where there it is. This is something I've been working [15:39.720 --> 15:47.880] on here lately. Is MERS included in your mortgage document? [15:47.880 --> 15:51.680] Oh, absolutely. And that was the second part I was getting to. [15:51.680 --> 15:58.600] Okay. Is MERS included in the definitions sections and in definitions themes? [15:58.600 --> 16:02.240] No. [16:02.240 --> 16:10.360] Is MERS included in the transfer section? Or where is MERS included on your document? [16:10.360 --> 16:13.840] It's right on the front page where it says it is the nominee. [16:13.840 --> 16:25.800] Okay. You'll have paragraph A. And the very first thing in the mortgage are the definitions. [16:25.800 --> 16:30.960] The first one is security instrument means this document, which is dated so-and-so together [16:30.960 --> 16:37.000] with all writers to this document. B. Let me pick this up on the other side. I'm going [16:37.000 --> 16:44.120] somewhere and you are going to like it. Okay. This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, [16:44.120 --> 17:00.720] Lady Craig. We look like radio. We'll be right back on the other side. [17:00.720 --> 17:04.360] Capital Coin and Bullion is a family-owned business built on the promise to bring you [17:04.360 --> 17:09.800] affordable pricing on all coin and bullion products. 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The Michael Mirris Proven Method is the solution [18:36.880 --> 18:41.560] for how to stop debt collectors. Personal consultation is available as well. For more [18:41.560 --> 18:46.840] information, please visit ruleoflawradio.com and click on the blue Michael Mirris banner [18:46.840 --> 18:55.680] or email michaelmirris at yahoo.com. That's ruleoflawradio.com or email m-i-c-h-a-e-l-m-i-r-r-a-s [18:55.680 --> 19:02.680] at yahoo.com to learn how to stop debt collectors now. [19:25.680 --> 19:43.680] Okay, we're back. We're talking to Leslie in Pennsylvania. And we were talking about [19:43.680 --> 19:52.680] the mortgage in Pennsylvania. And I'm leading somewhere, Leslie. Do you have the... [19:52.680 --> 20:01.360] Yes, under paragraph C. It says, Mars is a mortgage electronic recording system, a separate [20:01.360 --> 20:06.120] corporation. I think solely as nominee, Mars is a mortgage owner. It's a security instrument [20:06.120 --> 20:07.120] organization. [20:07.120 --> 20:10.040] Where does that occur on the mortgage document? [20:10.040 --> 20:14.800] It's paragraph C right under borrower in the definition. [20:14.800 --> 20:23.680] Okay, I have up... Okay, go down to the bottom of the page. Does it have a footer that says [20:23.680 --> 20:33.560] Pennsylvania single-family Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Uniform Instrument Form 3039? [20:33.560 --> 20:36.280] That's it. [20:36.280 --> 20:44.800] Okay, I have up from the Fannie Mae website. Pennsylvania single-family Fannie Mae, Freddie [20:44.800 --> 20:54.720] Mac, Uniform Instrument Form 3039. And paragraph C on this document reads, Lender is and has [20:54.720 --> 21:01.320] a blank for lender. Lender is a blank organized and existing under the laws of blank. Lender's [21:01.320 --> 21:08.440] address is, Lender is the mortgagee under the security instrument. Now, let's go down [21:08.440 --> 21:11.800] to this section on transfer. [21:11.800 --> 21:15.920] Something called D, Lender is. [21:15.920 --> 21:26.600] Okay, I won't give you some one word. Let's see. No, this says Lender is. Does not say [21:26.600 --> 21:27.600] D, Lender. [21:27.600 --> 21:28.600] Okay, let's go... [21:28.600 --> 21:31.600] Number D is Lender. [21:31.600 --> 21:37.600] Pardon me? Oh, I'm aware of that. Number C is Mer's, D is Lender. [21:37.600 --> 21:38.600] Yes. [21:38.600 --> 21:46.320] That's exactly where I'm going. Now, go down to transfer of rights. It's on the top of [21:46.320 --> 21:47.320] page three. [21:47.320 --> 21:50.320] On the top of page three? [21:50.320 --> 21:51.320] Yes. [21:51.320 --> 21:52.320] Period. [21:52.320 --> 21:53.320] Yes, I see. [21:53.320 --> 21:58.760] Would you read what it says for transfer of rights in the property? [21:58.760 --> 22:02.960] This security instrument secures to lender the repayment of the loan and all renewals, [22:02.960 --> 22:07.680] extensions and modifications of the notes and the performance of borrower's covenants [22:07.680 --> 22:14.160] and agreements under this security instrument and the notes. For this purpose, borrower [22:14.160 --> 22:20.280] does hereby mortgage, grant and convey to Mer's solely as nominee for lender and lender's [22:20.280 --> 22:26.200] successors and assigns, and to the successors and assigns of Mer's, the following described [22:26.200 --> 22:30.600] property located in the county of... [22:30.600 --> 22:31.600] Okay. [22:31.600 --> 22:32.600] ...recording... [22:32.600 --> 22:40.720] Okay, now let me read you what the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Uniform Instruments Form [22:40.720 --> 22:47.880] 3039, taken from the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac website says, the security instrument secures [22:47.880 --> 22:52.880] to lender, repayment of the loan and all renewals, extensions, modifications of the note and [22:52.880 --> 22:56.240] the performance of borrower's covenants and agreements under the security instruments [22:56.240 --> 23:02.160] and the note. For this purpose, borrower does hereby mortgage and grant, convey to [23:02.160 --> 23:11.680] lender the following described property located in the county of Blank Point. [23:11.680 --> 23:20.840] This document that you have has that footer that indicates that the document you have [23:20.840 --> 23:29.040] is the Pennsylvania single family Freddie Mae, Freddie Mac Uniform Instrument Form 39 [23:29.040 --> 23:34.360] and it is no such thing. [23:34.360 --> 23:41.600] This document, the first half of the document lists what it calls Uniform Covenants, right? [23:41.600 --> 23:44.840] Here on bottom of page 3. [23:44.840 --> 23:50.560] And then on down the document there's another section that says Non-Uniform Covenants. [23:50.560 --> 23:59.040] Well, this portion where Mer's is included in the document is within the section listed [23:59.040 --> 24:01.240] as Uniform Covenants. [24:01.240 --> 24:06.920] It is in the first part of the document. [24:06.920 --> 24:12.280] It would give a reasonable person of ordinary prudence reason to believe that what they [24:12.280 --> 24:22.120] are looking at is a standard uniform instrument approved by Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and used [24:22.120 --> 24:29.720] throughout the state and it is no such thing. [24:29.720 --> 24:39.320] It is a fraudulent document that constitutes a grant of your property to a third party [24:39.320 --> 24:41.880] with no interest in the property. [24:41.880 --> 24:47.120] Remember what I said about what created a contract? [24:47.120 --> 24:49.720] Something of value must change hands. [24:49.720 --> 24:57.920] Now, there must be offer and acceptance and even with offer and acceptance, there must [24:57.920 --> 25:01.080] be consideration. [25:01.080 --> 25:07.040] In entering into the mortgage, you were given consideration by the warranty deed. [25:07.040 --> 25:15.840] You gave consideration by the promise to pay and the mortgage. [25:15.840 --> 25:23.720] The inclusion of Mer's not only was secreted into the document, was done so under the guise [25:23.720 --> 25:33.840] of this being a uniform document, but the inclusion of Mer's granted you no consideration. [25:33.840 --> 25:40.880] It did grant the lender consideration and I was talking to David today and I haven't [25:40.880 --> 25:44.800] seen it yet myself but I'll be looking at it. [25:44.800 --> 25:54.080] On the Mer's website in Mer's manual, Mer's specifically states that the inclusion of [25:54.080 --> 26:03.680] Mer's is for the specific purpose of separating the note and the deed of trust. [26:03.680 --> 26:07.080] So now go down to paragraph 20. [26:07.080 --> 26:09.080] Oh, yes. [26:09.080 --> 26:12.160] Yeah, you're familiar with that one. [26:12.160 --> 26:15.440] I put that in my quiet title complaint. [26:15.440 --> 26:16.440] Okay. [26:16.440 --> 26:23.440] Well, this will add to your argument on quiet title. [26:23.440 --> 26:27.960] This can go more toward nullifying the note. [26:27.960 --> 26:32.120] Sale of note, change of loan servicer, notice of grievance. [26:32.120 --> 26:40.640] The note or a partial interest in the note together with this security instrument can [26:40.640 --> 26:44.680] be sold one or more times without prior notice to borrower. [26:44.680 --> 26:55.760] Now, this is the only limitation that you placed on the lender in the entire document. [26:55.760 --> 27:01.280] Everything else in this document grants privileges to the lender. [27:01.280 --> 27:11.440] This is the only limitation in the whole document to gather with this security instrument. [27:11.440 --> 27:18.760] Now if you go to Mer's manual and it says the purpose of the inclusion of Mer's is [27:18.760 --> 27:24.640] so that the note and the security instrument can be separated. [27:24.640 --> 27:34.280] Mer says that when the lender entered into this contract, they did so without full disclosure. [27:34.280 --> 27:41.920] They did so fraudulently by providing a document that purported to be a uniform instrument [27:41.920 --> 27:44.960] when it was no such thing. [27:44.960 --> 27:54.320] And they did so for the very specific purpose of violating paragraph 20 of the deed of trust [27:54.320 --> 28:02.560] that causes a repudiation of the contract and under contract law that goes to a agreed [28:02.560 --> 28:04.560] decision of the contract. [28:04.560 --> 28:05.560] Yes. [28:05.560 --> 28:13.120] Well, we put that in our complaint for quiet title, all of what you have said because they [28:13.120 --> 28:18.240] withheld information that it was going to be securitized that's not written into the [28:18.240 --> 28:20.760] contract at all. [28:20.760 --> 28:31.120] We put and we said that failure to disclose alone, you know, removes the obligation to [28:31.120 --> 28:33.920] repay under the UCC. [28:33.920 --> 28:41.760] Well, yeah, under standard contract law, any time you violate a provision of a contract, [28:41.760 --> 28:44.560] you repudiate the contract. [28:44.560 --> 28:46.120] Exactly. [28:46.120 --> 28:50.680] And that affects the agreed decision. [28:50.680 --> 28:59.880] And in this one, you can show that the lender clearly connived and planned to breach the [28:59.880 --> 29:03.640] only limitation in the contract when he signed it. [29:03.640 --> 29:07.480] And David made an interesting observation. [29:07.480 --> 29:10.880] Why didn't they just take that out of there? [29:10.880 --> 29:11.880] Yeah. [29:11.880 --> 29:14.920] That's what I thought about. [29:14.920 --> 29:16.600] That's a good point. [29:16.600 --> 29:19.680] Why didn't they just take it out of there? [29:19.680 --> 29:24.320] For whatever reason, they left it in there. [29:24.320 --> 29:29.840] Since they've already butchered up the supposed uniform instrument, they might as well butchered [29:29.840 --> 29:31.840] it up a little more. [29:31.840 --> 29:37.040] But I guess they just weren't very smart. [29:37.040 --> 29:38.040] Okay. 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[31:36.000 --> 31:42.000] Actually, they now offer a free hour of parking for paying customers at the 500 MLK parking [31:42.000 --> 31:44.000] facility just behind the bookstore. [31:44.000 --> 31:46.000] Oh, it does exist. [31:46.000 --> 31:48.000] But when are they open? [31:48.000 --> 31:52.000] Monday through Saturday, 11 a.m. to 9 p.m., and 1 to 6 p.m. on Sundays. [31:52.000 --> 32:00.000] So get them a call at 512-480-2503, or check out their events page at bravenewbookstore.com. [32:00.000 --> 32:06.000] Yeah, I got a warrant. [32:06.000 --> 32:15.000] I'm not going to solve that to the head of a man that prosecutes them. [32:15.000 --> 32:17.000] Okay. [32:17.000 --> 32:21.000] Oh, sir. [32:21.000 --> 32:26.000] The questions are written on a double sheet. [32:26.000 --> 32:30.000] The questions are written on a double sheet. [32:30.000 --> 32:39.000] Okay, we're back. [32:39.000 --> 32:42.000] What is the next step? [32:42.000 --> 32:46.000] We seem to have judicial admission on the part of the other party. [32:46.000 --> 32:55.000] I'm sure that lawyer wrote that nonsense language just so she could show her boss that she was doing something. [32:55.000 --> 32:57.000] So what's your next step now? [32:57.000 --> 33:03.000] It is for a read or no read, and I didn't give her a read receipt on that. [33:03.000 --> 33:06.000] So she doesn't even know if I saw it or not. [33:06.000 --> 33:12.000] But Monday morning, I'm going to go down and just get a regular plain old default judgment that I should have got a week ago. [33:12.000 --> 33:20.000] And what I started to tell you was, in that revocation of mortgage, I had an entire page on there, [33:20.000 --> 33:35.000] diverged to MERS and how it made the mortgage fraudulent and how it affected not, you know, in general and specifically how it made the mortgage fraudulent. [33:35.000 --> 33:39.000] And today I called somebody that I've been in contact with before. [33:39.000 --> 33:41.000] And her name is Nancy Becker. [33:41.000 --> 33:45.000] She is the recorder of deeds in Montgomery County. [33:45.000 --> 33:48.000] She made national headlines fighting MERS. [33:48.000 --> 33:54.000] And I had sent her some of my documents, and she flipped out. [33:54.000 --> 33:56.000] She said, this is terrific. [33:56.000 --> 33:57.000] I love it. [33:57.000 --> 33:58.000] She made copies. [33:58.000 --> 34:00.000] She's going to pass them out. [34:00.000 --> 34:03.000] Share them with everybody. [34:03.000 --> 34:08.000] I can't give you legal advice, but here we did. [34:08.000 --> 34:12.000] Yeah, exactly. [34:12.000 --> 34:16.000] I said that is better if they're not even in foreclosure. [34:16.000 --> 34:26.000] I'm really glad to hear that because here in Texas, I went to see my local county clerk and she's a real sweet heart. [34:26.000 --> 34:32.000] I've known her a long time and talk to her about this issue. [34:32.000 --> 34:36.000] And she was very concerned about this issue. [34:36.000 --> 34:43.000] And I hadn't thought about it that way, but all of the clerks do is keep the record. [34:43.000 --> 34:51.000] And now because these banks have been screwing around, her records are a mess. [34:51.000 --> 34:54.000] And these clerks are not happy campers. [34:54.000 --> 34:56.000] Oh, tell me about it. [34:56.000 --> 34:59.000] She's fighting. [34:59.000 --> 35:07.000] So we have the clerk who's not a happy camper and the clerk has the ear of the judge. [35:07.000 --> 35:23.000] I think this is a very good time to start going to the local courts to get just exactly what you have is quiet title as concerns the security instrument. [35:23.000 --> 35:28.000] Now the only claim they have is against the individual themselves. [35:28.000 --> 35:43.000] And the problem they have there is the reason you got quiet title is because fraud on their part in creating the trust of the mortgage in the first place. [35:43.000 --> 35:47.000] And that fraud bleeds over into the note. [35:47.000 --> 35:57.000] And we have the doctrine that no man shall be allowed to profit from his own misdeeds. [35:57.000 --> 36:07.000] So when they try to come back, if they do try to come back and seal the note itself, they have an uphill battle based on Residucata. [36:07.000 --> 36:16.000] Residucata is indirect, but you have a judicial determination that they repudiated the deed of trust by fraud. [36:16.000 --> 36:21.000] Make it harder for them to get back at the lender from the start. [36:21.000 --> 36:28.000] You know, you've read my complaint. It has several points of fraud in there. [36:28.000 --> 36:41.000] I brought up paragraph 20 and paragraph 16 where they didn't follow the state laws and paragraph two where they securitized the loan without my permission. [36:41.000 --> 36:45.000] And it didn't even give me any money for it. [36:45.000 --> 36:57.000] Okay, I've heard that argument, but I don't know how that one stands up because the note wasn't yours. [36:57.000 --> 37:00.000] The note was theirs. [37:00.000 --> 37:01.000] Right. [37:01.000 --> 37:06.000] Yeah, you gave it to them and traded it to them for the warranty deed. [37:06.000 --> 37:16.000] I also put in there that, you know, they didn't disclose that it was going to be securitized and that my title to my house would be unmarketable. [37:16.000 --> 37:26.000] They didn't disclose that to me and therefore that non-disclosure renders the obligation to pay in mute. [37:26.000 --> 37:35.000] Yeah, I've put in a lot of those arguments. When I first started doing these suits, I put in a whole bunch of those and the courts absolutely ignored them. [37:35.000 --> 37:47.000] And that was frustrated because I put a lot of time into crafting those arguments and the courts just ignored them out of hand. [37:47.000 --> 38:00.000] So what I started doing is what you're doing, what you did is put a lot more factual detail concerning the individual document. [38:00.000 --> 38:16.000] I started out trying to find a forensic analysis and those people close to me who know me know I have put a tremendous amount of time in trying to put together a functional forensic analysis. [38:16.000 --> 38:27.000] And I finally gave up on it because no matter how much I did, it was of no real value. [38:27.000 --> 38:41.000] I have this extensive questionnaire, a very extensive interactive online questionnaire, but it doesn't really lead me to adjudicatable issues. [38:41.000 --> 39:02.000] When I stopped trying to do an overall forensic analysis and went back and looked at the documents, looked at the public record, and went through the public record with the fine tooth comb, that's when I started finding really interesting information [39:02.000 --> 39:14.000] and information that's very specific to the individual note and the kind of information a local judge can look at and sink his teeth into. [39:14.000 --> 39:38.000] This argument about the footer on the mortgage, claiming that this is a standard Fannie Mae Freddie Mac document, that's not something the judge needs to understand anything about mortgages to wrap his head around. [39:38.000 --> 39:47.000] That goes strictly to contract law, it goes strictly to the kinds of fraud he deals with all of the time. [39:47.000 --> 39:57.000] So with this we take the judge where he lives, we take him to the kinds of things he's used to and comfortable with ruling on. [39:57.000 --> 40:05.000] So he doesn't have to get to where's the note, the securitization process, he doesn't have to deal with any of that. [40:05.000 --> 40:12.000] He can merely deal with you misrepresented this document straight up on his face. [40:12.000 --> 40:22.000] And this is something you can take to a judge and say, here's the document, we look at the four corners of this document. [40:22.000 --> 40:39.000] This says it's this standard form and it has this inclusion in it, well here's the standard form directly from Fannie Mae and it doesn't have that inclusion in it. [40:39.000 --> 40:50.000] This is not a provocative decision, he doesn't have to rule against any longstanding law, he doesn't have to rule against the banks directly. [40:50.000 --> 40:57.000] He can rule basically on the four corners of this document and say, well you've got a good point there. [40:57.000 --> 41:06.000] This is not the standard Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, uniform document, so we strike it as a voyage. [41:06.000 --> 41:09.000] And that appears to be what you've got. [41:09.000 --> 41:19.000] And for all of this stuff we're doing in the federal court and all this jumping up and down and waving our arms and railing in righteous indignation. [41:19.000 --> 41:28.000] This is snuck in there and jerked a rug right up from under there. [41:28.000 --> 41:35.000] So as far as your note goes, it would appear as though your house is clear. [41:35.000 --> 41:39.000] Yes. [41:39.000 --> 41:44.000] So are you going to start teaching other people how to do this? [41:44.000 --> 41:46.000] Oh I have been. [41:46.000 --> 41:48.000] Wonderful. [41:48.000 --> 41:52.000] I've got four people in the pipeline already working on it. [41:52.000 --> 41:57.000] There's someone else that's getting their quiet title Monday also. [41:57.000 --> 42:14.000] One thing that does interest me and you may be able to help with is, well I'm in Texas and most of the states are based on Spanish law, except Louisiana and we don't know what Louisiana is based on. [42:14.000 --> 42:17.000] That's a whole different world. [42:17.000 --> 42:36.000] But the colonies and most of the Commonwealth states of the eastern seaboard are based on the older, technically they're based on the common law that is grew into the English law. [42:36.000 --> 42:38.000] That's somewhat different. [42:38.000 --> 42:44.000] I mean I think Pennsylvania is the only place that has a profanitary. [42:44.000 --> 42:48.000] Your courts are somewhat different. [42:48.000 --> 42:57.000] How is it different in Pennsylvania and other places you've looked at as far as how you adjudicate this issue in the courts? [42:57.000 --> 43:01.000] Well in New Jersey and Pennsylvania very, very similar. [43:01.000 --> 43:04.000] Yeah, there are also commonwealths. [43:04.000 --> 43:07.000] No, New Jersey is not a commonwealth. [43:07.000 --> 43:08.000] No. [43:08.000 --> 43:09.000] New Jersey is a regular state. [43:09.000 --> 43:13.000] It was a colony but it's not a commonwealth. [43:13.000 --> 43:30.000] One of the eastern seaboard states from Virginia, North Carolina and South Carolina are more toward the Spanish law, but from Virginia and North almost everybody is based on the Commonwealth laws, except for New York. [43:30.000 --> 43:35.000] And that is somewhat different. [43:35.000 --> 43:43.000] We would like to talk about that. This is when we come back. This is Randy Kelton, David Stevens, Eddie Craig with the radio. [43:43.000 --> 43:48.000] This is our four hour info marathon. [43:48.000 --> 43:52.000] Our call in number is 512-646-1984. [43:52.000 --> 43:57.000] If you have any questions on or off topic, give us a call. [43:57.000 --> 44:00.000] We'd be glad to take your calls. [44:00.000 --> 44:05.000] The Oakland City bombing. 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[46:51.000 --> 46:56.000] And Leslie has apparently gotten that done in Pennsylvania. [46:56.000 --> 47:12.000] And one of the things you mentioned about Pennsylvania, that if a claim is not filed, if an assignment is not filed within 66 months in its void, I have never seen that in any other state. [47:12.000 --> 47:18.000] I've never seen any reference to an assignment. [47:18.000 --> 47:32.000] Well, it says in the paper, in the law, that any conveyance has to be recorded within 90 days, or it's fraudulent and void against all comers, except for the borrower. [47:32.000 --> 47:40.000] However, if a conveyance isn't recorded within six, if an assignment must be recorded within six months, that's what it says. [47:40.000 --> 47:42.000] It must be. [47:42.000 --> 48:09.000] See, that was interesting because I was just reading a brief by MERS over a suit that Craig Watkins, the district attorney for Dallas County, filed against MERS for all of the money so that they failed to pay the county clerk for all of the notices they did not file in the county court. [48:09.000 --> 48:21.000] And MERS claimed that the lawsuit was frivolous because there was no statutory requirement to file anything. [48:21.000 --> 48:26.000] And when I read it, I thought, that's what I thought I read when I read the law. [48:26.000 --> 48:29.000] I didn't see any statutory requirements. [48:29.000 --> 48:43.000] Now, there are statutory authorizations in that the law says you can file a deed of trust, you can file a warranty deed. [48:43.000 --> 49:00.000] And what they're saying is, is we set up this public record system, and we set up this system to maintain the land records, and you may file these things into these land records. [49:00.000 --> 49:10.000] We do have some issues with clerks not accepting filings in the public record. [49:10.000 --> 49:30.000] And in looking at the issue, you know, I have, I kind of hammered my local clerk over this, but I think she may have been right in that the law has stipulated what you can file into these public records. [49:30.000 --> 49:42.000] And that's within their purview as legislation created this county registrar's office. [49:42.000 --> 49:54.000] And because it's statutorily created, not constitutionally created, the legislature who created it can set limitations on it. [49:54.000 --> 50:03.000] So the legislature created it and they said, you can file these kinds of documents in this particular record. [50:03.000 --> 50:09.000] And then we get guys wanting to just file things because they want them in the public record. [50:09.000 --> 50:14.000] And the clerks are saying, wait a minute, these are not documents that are authorized. [50:14.000 --> 50:34.000] But land records are specifically authorized. Warranty deeds, deeds of trust, assignments of deeds of trust, or documents affecting beneficial interest in real property are authorized to be filed in the county record. [50:34.000 --> 50:37.000] But they're not required. [50:37.000 --> 50:47.000] And this is what Murray said. And I thought the lawyers made a good, cogent, well-structured argument. [50:47.000 --> 51:01.000] But I think they were a bit full of themselves because they went on to claim that while we're not required to make these filings, it's a good idea if you do. [51:01.000 --> 51:08.000] Because if you don't, you may not have a perfected claim. [51:08.000 --> 51:13.000] And I thought, that is right, Bubba. [51:13.000 --> 51:25.000] Well, there was a case beside it. I think it was in 2005, no, 2003. It was filed in 2003. [51:25.000 --> 51:45.000] And the gist of the decision was that on its face, the mortgage was fraudulent and void because its recording violated the clear mandate of 21-444 that all deeds and conveyances shall be recorded in the office for the recording of these where such lands are lying and being, et cetera, et cetera, [51:45.000 --> 51:58.000] within 90 days after the execution of such deeds and conveyance, since both 444 and 621 were violated, the mortgage should have been a judge fraudulent and void. [51:58.000 --> 52:01.000] That was in the court decision, federal court. [52:01.000 --> 52:12.000] You know, I'm glad to see that because that sets a precedent for what should be law in every state. [52:12.000 --> 52:20.000] Yeah. And it may turn out to be because of the, okay, go ahead. [52:20.000 --> 52:27.000] All mortgages are to be in writing. They have all assignments are to be in writing. [52:27.000 --> 52:30.000] That's another strategy. [52:30.000 --> 52:43.000] We have that in Texas that you can't have a verbal mortgage agreement. That has to be in writing, but it does not have to be filed. [52:43.000 --> 52:46.000] So they have to be filed. [52:46.000 --> 53:05.000] And I think that would be a valuable addition to the laws of the state of Texas and other states that would have eliminated a lot of these problems and give us a more definitive stand like you have. [53:05.000 --> 53:14.000] You have definitive law that says if it wasn't here on this time and on this date, then it doesn't exist. [53:14.000 --> 53:23.000] We actually have one 13.001, but it only goes to a deed of trust. [53:23.000 --> 53:32.000] And it says specifically that a deed of trust not properly filed with the clerk of the court and with the county clerk is void. [53:32.000 --> 53:37.000] And I'd like that it says not properly filed. [53:37.000 --> 53:44.000] But it doesn't go to these other documents. And this is what Craig Watkins was complaining about. [53:44.000 --> 53:46.000] And Merz was right. [53:46.000 --> 53:51.000] They didn't have to file them. So they didn't know the clerk and the filing fee for not filing them. [53:51.000 --> 54:01.000] But these lawyers who argued that if they did not file them, they may not have a perfected claim. [54:01.000 --> 54:08.000] Established against Merz, at least in Texas, collateral estoppel. [54:08.000 --> 54:20.000] They can't come in with an unfiled claim and try to adjudicate it because they've already stipulated to the court that if it's not filed, it's not perfected. [54:20.000 --> 54:24.000] So I was very pleased to see that. [54:24.000 --> 54:33.000] Right. On subsection 625 in the 21, title 21, there's a... [54:33.000 --> 54:37.000] Okay, wait. Hold on. Title 21 of what? [54:37.000 --> 54:39.000] Pennsylvania statute. [54:39.000 --> 54:47.000] Okay. So you don't have a Pennsylvania property code like we have a Texas property code and all kinds of different codes. [54:47.000 --> 54:52.000] So all of yours are in the general statutes. [54:52.000 --> 55:04.000] It says that there has to be a certificate of residence of mortgagee or assignee on the document and on the mortgage or the assignee. [55:04.000 --> 55:09.000] So that shows you it's important that they know who has the interest. [55:09.000 --> 55:13.000] Wait a minute. Wait a minute. [55:13.000 --> 55:18.000] Wait, hold on. A certificate of residence. [55:18.000 --> 55:23.000] Who is that certificate of residence referring to? [55:23.000 --> 55:25.000] The mortgagee. [55:25.000 --> 55:31.000] So he has to establish that he's doing business in the state? [55:31.000 --> 55:35.000] No. He has to establish his correct address. [55:35.000 --> 55:37.000] Ah, okay. [55:37.000 --> 55:42.000] The mortgage or the assignee and there's a reason for it. It says it in the statute. [55:42.000 --> 55:53.000] The recorder has to make a record so many times a year to the tax department of who all of the people with interest in a property is. [55:53.000 --> 56:00.000] And if it's not recorded, they can't make that report. [56:00.000 --> 56:10.000] That is interesting. I suspect that would give us grounds for asking for this kind of legislature here. [56:10.000 --> 56:26.000] The certificate to be recorded with said mortgage assignment or agreement and therefrom the said recorder shall prepare and deliver at stated intervals to the proper board of revision of taxes and other officials charged with the assessment of state tax. [56:26.000 --> 56:47.000] The list of said mortgages, assignments, and agreements with the names and residences of said mortgagees, assignees, or persons entitled to interest with the amount and the date of said mortgages, assignments, and articles of agreement with the date of recording and the properties upon which the deaths are secured. [56:47.000 --> 56:49.000] Can it be any clearer than that? [56:49.000 --> 57:01.000] Yes, that sounds like it will have the effect of dramatically lowering the numbers of properties sold at tax sale. [57:01.000 --> 57:07.000] Because this will give, this will, go ahead. [57:07.000 --> 57:14.000] No, I mean the people open their eyes and look at the law and fight for it. [57:14.000 --> 57:24.000] Well, sometimes that's harder for people than you would think. Those of us who actually do what you're doing are rare. [57:24.000 --> 57:25.000] Unfortunately. [57:25.000 --> 57:32.000] It takes someone with this kind of focus and time and motivation. [57:32.000 --> 57:53.000] So I used to get frustrated because people didn't work harder to protect their own interest. But over time it became clear that everybody has their own focus and some of us were put here to do this part for those who were doing other parts. [57:53.000 --> 58:04.000] But I find this particular line of inquiry very interesting. I think that's a good idea for what we might be able to use in Texas. [58:04.000 --> 58:10.000] Okay, this is Wren Chilton-Beck students at Cleveland Radio. [58:10.000 --> 58:14.000] This is our four hour info marathon. [58:14.000 --> 58:24.000] So give us a call. You don't have to be on topic. Our phone lines are open. 512-646-1984. [58:24.000 --> 58:29.000] Going to our top of the hour break, so it would be a little bit longer break. [58:29.000 --> 58:34.000] When we come back, we will continue. Leslie, can you hang on with us? [58:34.000 --> 58:35.000] Sure, no. [58:35.000 --> 58:36.000] Wonderful. [58:36.000 --> 58:47.000] Okay, there's some other issues I would like to talk about concerning this mortgage situation. So we'll get back to this when we get back on the other side. [58:47.000 --> 59:10.000] So give us a call. Get in line. 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We started out by looking at forensic analysis and we essentially started out with the naive belief that all we had to do was find something that the lenders have done wrong and we could come in and adjudicate those wrongs in the court. [01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:28.000] We've certainly found out that that is not necessarily the case because we've had a lot of people with these forensic analysis programs and we've had, I guess this leads to a conversation we really need to have about mortgage foreclosure issue problems, scams. [01:04:28.000 --> 01:04:49.000] And there are problems out there because we have people who are truly scam artists to start with. If somebody comes to you and asks you to hand them a whole bunch of money for something they might do sometime in the future, be very, very careful. [01:04:49.000 --> 01:05:09.000] If somebody comes to you and offers to help you get a loan modification, be extremely cautious because if you listen to this program for a while, you're probably up on the fact that loan modification is a scam by the banks. [01:05:09.000 --> 01:05:26.000] Anybody trying to help the banks with the loan modifications, helping them with the scam, even if they're honest. And if someone is acting within that area and promoting the loan modification process, they have to know it's a scam. [01:05:26.000 --> 01:05:40.000] So that's problematic, especially if they come and ask you for a lot of money or if they ask you to write your property over to them. [01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:57.000] Now, there are times when that's not necessarily a problem, but only when the person has already given up on the property. But if someone's living in their property and wants to stay living in their property and you get someone coming along and saying, [01:05:57.000 --> 01:06:13.000] well, you know, I can adjudicate this for you, but you have to write me a warranty deed. Be very, very careful because you are giving them your property. [01:06:13.000 --> 01:06:34.000] And this is something that the regulatory agencies are looking at very carefully and they should. If anybody comes to you and gives you any kind of guarantee, don't walk, run away from them. [01:06:34.000 --> 01:06:44.000] I think most of the people who listen to this program understand that part, that we talk about all the time how corrupt the courts are. [01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:57.000] So this notion that you can come to the court with the facts and the law on your side and imagine that you're going to win because you have the facts and the law on your side is naive. [01:06:57.000 --> 01:07:13.000] Leslie seems to have won this issue, but I suspect that had she been at this position two years ago, the courts would have denied her quiet title. [01:07:13.000 --> 01:07:34.000] And they had done that because the politics was different. Two years ago, we were going into a congressional election and we were talking about how we expected that because of the low popularity rating of the Congress, [01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:48.000] that the Congress politicians were going to need a scapegoat to throw to the voter to get some of them to vote for them because they were going in with a 12% approval rating. [01:07:48.000 --> 01:08:09.000] And the only one out there was the lender and they threw him under the bus, but it has still taken a couple of years for the courts to begin to come around. And I can't help but believe that the only reason the courts are coming around is the politics. [01:08:09.000 --> 01:08:20.000] They're beginning to see the pressure, feel the pressure. That's the advantage of having lower level judges that are elected. They have to pay attention to the public. [01:08:20.000 --> 01:08:34.000] And right now the public is waking up from its stupor that has been in for the last 15 years, 50 years of relative easy good times and now things are getting difficult. [01:08:34.000 --> 01:08:44.000] The public's waking up, Bubba came for his bass boat and his widescreen TV and he is not happy. [01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:59.000] So these judges are having to pay attention to the politics and the politics is definitely moving in our favor and we're coming up on another congressional election. [01:08:59.000 --> 01:09:05.000] At the last congressional election, they had the largest turnover ever in history. [01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:11.000] They went in with a 9%, I'm sorry, they went in with a 12% approval rating. [01:09:11.000 --> 01:09:31.000] The last I heard here, they were at a 9%. And I heard that from a show where an interviewer was interviewing a first time congressman, one of these that had been elected in, one of what they called the Tea Party Congressman. [01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:43.000] And the interviewer referenced that there were the legislature only had a 9% approval rate. [01:09:43.000 --> 01:09:49.000] And this guy said, where are they? I haven't seen any of those. [01:09:49.000 --> 01:09:57.000] So we're going in with a less lower approval rate than we did last time and this is just what they're admitting. [01:09:57.000 --> 01:10:03.000] So I fully expect a larger turnover this time than last time. [01:10:03.000 --> 01:10:19.000] And I think all of our elected judges are looking at what's going on and they realize that when the public is up in arms as they are now, they may not know who to vote for, but they certainly know who to vote against. [01:10:19.000 --> 01:10:30.000] And there's always the incumbent. In good times, the incumbent has an advantage. In bad times, he is the scapegoat, he is the problem. [01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:36.000] We may not know who to put in there, but we certainly know we want somebody else. [01:10:36.000 --> 01:10:54.000] And now they have to pay attention to us. It was interesting that we had an election here in Addison, Texas, in North Suburb of Dallas, and in a suburb of Houston where a city council election was determined by a towing cost. [01:10:54.000 --> 01:11:11.000] Towing cost, coin toss. In Addison, Addison is a city of a couple hundred thousand. The election netted 118 votes for each candidate. [01:11:11.000 --> 01:11:27.000] That was absolutely pitiful. But then on the other hand, the politicians are aware that it doesn't take a lot of votes to tip the balance to one side or another. [01:11:27.000 --> 01:11:44.000] So we're getting little politics building up on our side. It's time for all of us to take advantage of that, stand up, do something, get in there, beat these guys up, make them pay for what they've done, write the system. [01:11:44.000 --> 01:11:58.000] If we get it straightened out here in 2012, 50 years from now our grandkids are going to have to do it again. But at least we'll have it straightened out for about 50 years. [01:11:58.000 --> 01:12:04.000] Okay, Leslie, do you have anything else for us tonight? [01:12:04.000 --> 01:12:22.000] No, I guess that's it for right now. I'm really excited about helping other people and being able to get things done and learning new things because every day somebody brings something else to the table. It's never fail. [01:12:22.000 --> 01:12:35.000] I will definitely be sending you some folks. We get a number of people from the Northeast colony and I will definitely reference them to you if that's okay with you. [01:12:35.000 --> 01:12:37.000] That's fine. [01:12:37.000 --> 01:12:46.000] Wonderful. Thank you very much, Leslie. We have a couple more calls. Keep us updated on what happens in your case. [01:12:46.000 --> 01:12:58.000] Okay, thank you. And now we're going to go to Lisa in Texas. Hello, Lisa. What do you have for us today? [01:12:58.000 --> 01:13:17.000] Hi. Yes, I was calling. Actually, this is all new to me. It's concerning land laws in Louisiana and we have our inheritance that we got from our mother. This is a long story so I'm going to make it short. [01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:36.000] And what's going on is that our mother died and our grandparents died and they left us a lot of land and it's our inheritance and what happened was my aunt, I guess my auntie was in charge of the land and what have you, [01:13:36.000 --> 01:13:51.000] they went and they got together and they sold their part of the land to a gentleman who has oil wells on the land and my brothers and sisters and I, since my mother passed, it was supposed to be our share. [01:13:51.000 --> 01:14:10.000] It was supposed to go to us but somehow they, I don't know if it was illegal or how they did it but they said that she didn't get hardly any land and they took all the land and they sold it to the gentleman and got mineral rights and we didn't get anything. [01:14:10.000 --> 01:14:21.000] So, and based on, I believe in Louisiana, it's based on, I think it's still in the French law, I'm not sure it's still in the French law, somehow we're... [01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:25.000] Napoleonic law is what it's called. [01:14:25.000 --> 01:14:43.000] And somehow they got away with it based on the gentleman as he has a lot of money so whenever we try to go to court about it, he pretty much can pay people off or whatever he wants to do so we really know what to do about that, how we should pursue it in order to get it back [01:14:43.000 --> 01:14:54.000] because he has tried threatening us to get the sign off and he wants to give us like $800 worth but we know that he knows that he did something wrong and he doesn't want us to pursue it. [01:14:54.000 --> 01:15:07.000] So, we're trying to see how we should go about this who should be, because we go to the court system in Louisiana and he's just going to pay off the judges or the attorneys or whomever and that's been, you know, we already know that he knows everybody there. [01:15:07.000 --> 01:15:16.000] So, it's kind of a tricky situation because with us being in Texas, trying to get there to do anything. [01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:31.000] This is an issue with Louisiana. Everybody I know who's in Louisiana talks about how corrupted it is there and how different the laws are. [01:15:31.000 --> 01:15:42.000] And for us, this is a probate issue and I personally don't have any background in probate. [01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:50.000] I didn't come from a family who had anything that I could inherit and my mother is 90. [01:15:50.000 --> 01:16:12.000] She's going to live forever. But frankly, I don't have any real knowledge of probate law and I would hate to try to expound on something about which I know little or nothing because any advice that I were to give would be worth exactly what you pay for it. [01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:20.000] Eddie, do you have any insight into... Not when it comes to Louisiana, no. [01:16:20.000 --> 01:16:27.000] Napoleonic law is a whole different animal than what we're dealing with most of the time. [01:16:27.000 --> 01:16:35.000] Basically, when she started mentioning somebody with money, well, there you go. That's the basis of Napoleonic law. [01:16:35.000 --> 01:16:47.000] Okay, I wish we had more for you, but I'm afraid you're just not qualified to give you good advice on what you can do here. [01:16:47.000 --> 01:16:50.000] You definitely know what you're going to have this for. [01:16:50.000 --> 01:16:55.000] Okay, this is Randy Calton, Debbie Stevens, Eddie Craig. We'll be on the radio. [01:16:55.000 --> 01:17:00.000] We are calling number 512-646-1984. [01:17:00.000 --> 01:17:07.000] Capital Coin & Bullion is a family-owned business built on the promise to bring you affordable pricing on all coin and bullion products. 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[01:20:03.000 --> 01:20:09.000] But the one I'm working on at the moment is basically the Texas Traffic Court Survivors Guide, [01:20:09.000 --> 01:20:13.000] which is all about taking the legal issues to court. [01:20:13.000 --> 01:20:20.000] And based upon what we did in the first seminar, it's great that we taught people what the traffic statutes actually say. [01:20:20.000 --> 01:20:25.000] We taught them how to use that information to read and learn statute. [01:20:25.000 --> 01:20:37.000] But none of that is really going to help if you can't take the information that you derive from all this and use it in court to help yourself. [01:20:37.000 --> 01:20:47.000] So what I'm going to try to do is start seeing if we have enough interest to do regular seminars around Texas. [01:20:47.000 --> 01:20:57.000] And what I would like to do is to do this entirely on the legal issues of going to court, [01:20:57.000 --> 01:21:03.000] documenting everything that we do in court and what the court refuses to do, [01:21:03.000 --> 01:21:10.000] and basically beating the living tar out of them at the appellate level to get the case law in our favor, [01:21:10.000 --> 01:21:21.000] to get the trial court verdict overturned, and to open up an avenue of access to the judge and the prosecutor to sue them for malicious prosecution. [01:21:21.000 --> 01:21:31.000] So at this juncture, what we'd like to do is discuss that for a few moments and what we can accomplish with that, we hope. [01:21:31.000 --> 01:21:36.000] And whether or not people that are listening would have any interest in attending, [01:21:36.000 --> 01:21:41.000] we had a very gracious attendance here in Austin for the 2009 traffic seminar. [01:21:41.000 --> 01:21:51.000] Well, folks, I'm telling you, the new seminar would absolutely put the shame anything that you learned in 2009, [01:21:51.000 --> 01:21:57.000] because 2009 showed you how to make and find the tools. [01:21:57.000 --> 01:22:02.000] Now we're going to teach you how to take those tools to work. [01:22:02.000 --> 01:22:09.000] And that's what the new seminar platform that I'm looking at doing will be. [01:22:09.000 --> 01:22:14.000] It will be all about the same things that I teach in class here in Austin every Sunday. [01:22:14.000 --> 01:22:25.000] It will be taking the traffic issues to the courts, fighting against them, documenting everything they do to violate due process, [01:22:25.000 --> 01:22:35.000] and people, it is not just the courts. Due process violations are specifically engineered into this process. [01:22:35.000 --> 01:22:39.000] They are engineered by legislative enactment. [01:22:39.000 --> 01:22:48.000] I can prove that hands down in every piece of the statute that it is engineered in directly by the legislature. [01:22:48.000 --> 01:23:01.000] Why? Because this is their revenue generator. This is where they manage to collect more illegal taxes than they can by any other means in the entire state. [01:23:01.000 --> 01:23:11.000] This process rakes in more money than sales tax. It rakes in almost as much money as property tax. [01:23:11.000 --> 01:23:20.000] It is an outright scam that we're letting them steal us blind in these traffic courts. [01:23:20.000 --> 01:23:27.000] And we really, really need to get people educated on how to properly take these issues to court. [01:23:27.000 --> 01:23:30.000] And when I say property, let me give you an example. [01:23:30.000 --> 01:23:45.000] I just got an email here. Somebody in Arizona begging to have people help him get his case on TV in the whole nine yards when he goes into a justice court in Arizona for a traffic ticket. [01:23:45.000 --> 01:24:03.000] Now, he's going to go in there and he's going to argue the all caps name, the straw man, the UCC, and all of the utter, utter BS completely useless arguments that have failed everyone, everywhere for so long. [01:24:03.000 --> 01:24:07.000] And for some reason, this guy thinks he's got it right. [01:24:07.000 --> 01:24:13.000] Folks, it's not right. It's nowhere near right. [01:24:13.000 --> 01:24:20.000] No one with hardly any exception whatsoever. There are a few but not many. [01:24:20.000 --> 01:24:29.000] The people that come to my class, myself, Randy, Deborah, we go to where the source of their alleged authority comes from. [01:24:29.000 --> 01:24:45.000] We then take the source of that authority, we learn it for ourselves, and then we determine that they're trying to use it in a manner that they were never given authority to do and to use it for. [01:24:45.000 --> 01:24:48.000] That's where your power lies. [01:24:48.000 --> 01:25:04.000] There's a, I forget who coined the adage, but it goes something like this. The easiest way to hamper the functions of any institution is to gum it up by its own rules. [01:25:04.000 --> 01:25:15.000] That was never more true than it is with the Texas courts, especially when it comes to transportation offenses. [01:25:15.000 --> 01:25:20.000] They have rules they are supposed to follow and they don't. [01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:31.000] We have to know what rules they're supposed to follow and when they don't so that we can document that as a due process violation. [01:25:31.000 --> 01:25:40.000] The defense of these cases does not change regardless of the alleged offense in the transportation code. It doesn't change. [01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:47.000] The way to defend is to destroy the false presumptions that they base their entire case on. [01:25:47.000 --> 01:26:07.000] The first and foremost false presumption is that you are engaging in a regulatable activity called transportation and that by default, they have the power to regulate you as being in transportation. [01:26:07.000 --> 01:26:24.000] If we don't change that false presumption at the trial level by objecting to that presumption properly, then we're going to miss what we need to establish in the record to get it overturned on appeal. [01:26:24.000 --> 01:26:30.000] And that folks is what we're going to base all of the new seminar platform on. [01:26:30.000 --> 01:26:47.000] We're going to base it on taking the issues that you learned about the transportation laws and going to court and documenting your case so that the appeals court has no choice but to overturn the railroad job of the trial court. [01:26:47.000 --> 01:27:01.000] Randy, if you've got any commentaries or input on this, please jump in. Yes, I do. I have something I was thinking about when you were talking about litigation. [01:27:01.000 --> 01:27:09.000] We need to develop a generic lawsuit to file against them. [01:27:09.000 --> 01:27:19.000] Right now, Texas is one of the highest ticket costs of any state I've ever looked at. [01:27:19.000 --> 01:27:30.000] In New York, they cost about 40, 50 bucks for a ticket. Here you get a ticket you're not likely to get out for less than 3 to 500. [01:27:30.000 --> 01:27:43.000] At that amount, it's a lot cheaper to sue them in the county court or even the district court than it is to pay the ticket. [01:27:43.000 --> 01:28:05.000] And if they're using the ticket generation process as a revenue stream, if we could get 1% of the people who receive tickets to file suit against them, it would essentially eliminate any profit for their revenue stream. [01:28:05.000 --> 01:28:22.000] It wouldn't matter whether they win the case or not. Them having to hire lawyers and spend the time to fight these issues would turn the whole system on its head. [01:28:22.000 --> 01:28:32.000] So I would like to look at putting together a set of causes of action and we have enough research on the right to travel. [01:28:32.000 --> 01:28:42.000] And this is an issue that the courts cannot easily overturn because this is a very long-standing basic right. [01:28:42.000 --> 01:28:51.000] It is the basic tenet that the states cannot regulate rights on the privilege. [01:28:51.000 --> 01:29:04.000] So they would have to turn travel into a right and into a privilege instead of a right and it will cause them so many problems in other places that they're not going to want to do that. [01:29:04.000 --> 01:29:21.000] So I'd very much like to see that, add more tools, but even with that said, if you go in and fight these guys, in the end the judges and the police for the most part are good guys. [01:29:21.000 --> 01:29:31.000] They're just in a system that they didn't create and we haven't monitored and regulated and we've allowed it to get out of hand. [01:29:31.000 --> 01:29:34.000] So it's time to fight. [01:29:34.000 --> 01:29:36.000] I'm ready. [01:29:36.000 --> 01:29:40.000] We'll pick this up a little bit more on the other side if that's alright with you. [01:29:40.000 --> 01:29:42.000] That'll work for me. [01:29:42.000 --> 01:29:51.000] Alright folks, this is Rule of Law Radio. Call that number is 512-646-1984. 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[01:32:31.000 --> 01:32:34.000] Tyler, give us just a minute and we'll be picking up on you, okay? [01:32:34.000 --> 01:32:41.000] Anyway, Randy, I'm not really sure if we would have to go to a lawsuit on right to travel. [01:32:41.000 --> 01:32:46.000] I think one of our best routes to take on this is compelled commerce. [01:32:46.000 --> 01:32:54.000] The state is essentially trying to compel everyone in the state to participate in a commercial activity against their will. [01:32:54.000 --> 01:33:04.000] Whether they want to be or not, the state is forcing them to acquire and use a commercial activity license. [01:33:04.000 --> 01:33:12.000] Yeah, I think that would be a great challenge to make because people can understand that. [01:33:12.000 --> 01:33:17.000] You know, I talk to people about this issue and they look confused and I said, [01:33:17.000 --> 01:33:24.000] well, what kind of license is that you have? And when I tell them, you know that's a chauffeur's license. [01:33:24.000 --> 01:33:29.000] They kind of understand that and that's when it begins to make sense to them. [01:33:29.000 --> 01:33:34.000] Why do you have a chauffeur's license? And they say, why don't know? [01:33:34.000 --> 01:33:44.000] I said, why don't either? So that is a good point and there are other things and this is due process. [01:33:44.000 --> 01:33:49.000] This is the big deal. These courts have become so outrageous. [01:33:49.000 --> 01:33:55.000] We need to go right back at them and take them to task for the due process violations. [01:33:55.000 --> 01:34:00.000] We have Steve, we have Steve up on the board and we're going to when we get to Steve, [01:34:00.000 --> 01:34:07.000] we're going to talk about due process violations that this is something we can readily adjudicate. [01:34:07.000 --> 01:34:19.000] In traffic, the due process violations are so consistent that we could very easily build a generic lawsuit [01:34:19.000 --> 01:34:27.000] that someone could just go online, fill in the blanks, download, sign and send. [01:34:27.000 --> 01:34:34.000] Now, it's going to cost you three to five hundred bucks to pay your ticket and if you try to fight the ticket, [01:34:34.000 --> 01:34:42.000] they're going to screw you around and you know it just so they can collect the money. [01:34:42.000 --> 01:34:49.000] Let's see if we can't turn this on its head and we go fight the ticket, not to win the ticket, [01:34:49.000 --> 01:34:59.000] but to give us causes of action against them so we can sue them and especially if we start suing them personally, [01:34:59.000 --> 01:35:06.000] claiming that if they took an action they're not authorized to take and in the process [01:35:06.000 --> 01:35:13.000] that now you need the full and free access to enjoyment of right, that is not within scope. [01:35:13.000 --> 01:35:18.000] They have derivative immunity if they're acting within scope. [01:35:18.000 --> 01:35:26.000] Committing crimes in office is not in scope and you know these guys are the bottom of the rung, [01:35:26.000 --> 01:35:37.000] the traffic, the chops, they're the ones that the judicial conduct uses to make it look like they're actually doing something [01:35:37.000 --> 01:35:45.000] and Ken Magnuson's brother was a municipal judge and he was terrified of the commission [01:35:45.000 --> 01:35:51.000] because the only ones they ever hammer are municipal judges so let's have them out here, [01:35:51.000 --> 01:35:58.000] let's start hammering the municipal judges and give them a reason to start actually obeying the following law. [01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:06.000] Yeah well the thing is is I don't know how these judges could ever establish that any of the municipal or J.P. judges [01:36:06.000 --> 01:36:09.000] were acting under any authority that would grant them immunity. [01:36:09.000 --> 01:36:14.000] I mean let's look at the three areas of law these procedures can take place in. [01:36:14.000 --> 01:36:20.000] They can operate in criminal which is what they're telling us these alleged violations are. [01:36:20.000 --> 01:36:24.000] They can operate in civil or they can operate in administrative. [01:36:24.000 --> 01:36:33.000] Now we all know from the statutes these are administrative hence by definition have nothing to do with the general public [01:36:33.000 --> 01:36:37.000] but they're still treating them against all of us as if they're criminal. [01:36:37.000 --> 01:36:48.000] The problem is is you can't find any one of these three established sets of principled rules that these guys are following. [01:36:48.000 --> 01:36:51.000] Here's what you're supposed to do in the Code of Criminal Procedure. [01:36:51.000 --> 01:37:00.000] You're not doing any of it hence I have the appearance of either one you're not being fair impartial and unbiased [01:37:00.000 --> 01:37:09.000] or two we're not playing by those rules but it doesn't look like you're following any of the civil procedure rules either. [01:37:09.000 --> 01:37:20.000] So those are out the window and we can't see where anything you're doing jives with what would even be considered administrative due process. [01:37:20.000 --> 01:37:32.000] So essentially speaking these guys are just making it up as they go along with only the most basic of appearance and lip service toward justice of any kind. [01:37:32.000 --> 01:37:37.000] There is no justice in these courts people it's not about justice. [01:37:37.000 --> 01:37:39.000] Let me give you a perfect example. [01:37:39.000 --> 01:37:53.000] 2010 the city of Austin by its lonesome stole 64 million plus dollars from the people of Texas that passed through its territorial boundaries. [01:37:53.000 --> 01:37:57.000] That's just the people that went through its territorial boundaries. [01:37:57.000 --> 01:38:04.000] It got to keep 32 plus million of that 50% of that generated revenue. [01:38:04.000 --> 01:38:19.000] The other 50 went to guess who the state who is utterly responsible for the lack of training that these local idiots wearing guns and let me just call them what they are. [01:38:19.000 --> 01:38:38.000] Anytime a peace officer takes his power and uses it to enforce a law that violates his oath the laws of the state and the people's constitutional prohibitions on the powers of government. [01:38:38.000 --> 01:38:40.000] He's not a peace officer. [01:38:40.000 --> 01:38:43.000] He's a freaking hired thug. [01:38:43.000 --> 01:38:44.000] Okay. [01:38:44.000 --> 01:38:48.000] He's a gun toting enforcer. [01:38:48.000 --> 01:38:51.000] He is not a peace officer. [01:38:51.000 --> 01:38:56.000] And the sooner we realize that and act accordingly the better off we're going to be. [01:38:56.000 --> 01:38:59.000] I think the term is jackboot. [01:38:59.000 --> 01:39:01.000] That's one possible term. [01:39:01.000 --> 01:39:02.000] Yes. [01:39:02.000 --> 01:39:07.000] But I can't use the correct term on family radio. [01:39:07.000 --> 01:39:18.000] But that being said, we need to understand that when these officers are enforcing the law simply because it's what they're told to do, hey, the Nazis use the same excuse. [01:39:18.000 --> 01:39:21.000] Look where it got the ones that got caught. [01:39:21.000 --> 01:39:22.000] Okay. [01:39:22.000 --> 01:39:31.000] You want to shave your heads, wear your pith, your Nazi style helmets on your SWAT teams and everything else to enforce a traffic citation. [01:39:31.000 --> 01:39:33.000] You idiots. [01:39:33.000 --> 01:39:35.000] You other freaking idiots. [01:39:35.000 --> 01:39:48.000] I think when we start filing civil actions against the police officers, no matter what happens, the police officers are not going to be happy cameras. [01:39:48.000 --> 01:39:55.000] And we'll get them in a position to where we will give them plausible deniability. [01:39:55.000 --> 01:40:08.000] So when the boss says you got to go out there and write X number of tickets, they'll tell the boss you go out there and write those tickets. I don't want to lose my basketball. [01:40:08.000 --> 01:40:12.000] Well, Steve, you got any comments on any of this? [01:40:12.000 --> 01:40:14.000] Have I got any comments on what? [01:40:14.000 --> 01:40:17.000] Have you got any comments on any of this? [01:40:17.000 --> 01:40:25.000] Well, I do, but like yourself, I can't really say so in mixed company. [01:40:25.000 --> 01:40:31.000] The whole issue makes me just completely, it boils my blood. [01:40:31.000 --> 01:40:34.000] You look at what's going on in the courts today. [01:40:34.000 --> 01:40:44.000] You look how the judges, the attorneys and the armed guards are all in collusion, conspiring to work against the common man. [01:40:44.000 --> 01:40:49.000] It leaves you very little room to do anything. [01:40:49.000 --> 01:40:56.000] I mean, I say this on there, but if they want a bloody revolution, I can't think of a better way to do it. [01:40:56.000 --> 01:40:58.000] That's a good point. [01:40:58.000 --> 01:41:04.000] I have a friend who was a captain in the KGB. [01:41:04.000 --> 01:41:17.000] And she said that in Russia, the courts are on the bottom end with the individuals, the courts are far more fair than they are here. [01:41:17.000 --> 01:41:31.000] Because they fully understand that in a totalitarian regime, if the people become unhappy with you, they will throw you out. [01:41:31.000 --> 01:41:35.000] So you have to keep the pen to hand. [01:41:35.000 --> 01:41:43.000] Our officials have forgotten this, and now this worm is beginning to turn. [01:41:43.000 --> 01:41:47.000] And it's time for us to bring this to their attention. [01:41:47.000 --> 01:41:52.000] I personally do not want to see a bloody revolution. [01:41:52.000 --> 01:41:59.000] I want to see this handled in a more expeditious manner, and we have the tools to do it with. [01:41:59.000 --> 01:42:02.000] We have the internet, if we can. [01:42:02.000 --> 01:42:04.000] Go ahead, Steve. [01:42:04.000 --> 01:42:12.000] Well, I forget how many of our founding fathers told us and warned us that he who does not know his history is doomed to repeat it. [01:42:12.000 --> 01:42:16.000] History tells us that bloodshed does not work. [01:42:16.000 --> 01:42:20.000] It's only gotten us right back to where we're at right now. [01:42:20.000 --> 01:42:24.000] There is no doubt in my mind that there is a revolution coming. [01:42:24.000 --> 01:42:34.000] This one is going to have to, in order for it to work, it's going to have to be a revolution of the mind, of the paradigm, of the way we think, of the way we operate, of the way we use law. [01:42:34.000 --> 01:42:38.000] And in order to do that, we must first know the law. [01:42:38.000 --> 01:42:40.000] Period. There's no other way. [01:42:40.000 --> 01:42:45.000] Unfortunately, we have the tools to get that done with. [01:42:45.000 --> 01:42:47.000] Yes. [01:42:47.000 --> 01:42:49.000] So I'm looking forward to it. [01:42:49.000 --> 01:42:53.000] Okay, our board is building up. [01:42:53.000 --> 01:42:57.000] Yeah, we've only got about a minute and a half or so before break, though. [01:42:57.000 --> 01:43:00.000] So we'll start taking calls on the other side if that's all right. [01:43:00.000 --> 01:43:02.000] That is perfectly all right. [01:43:02.000 --> 01:43:04.000] You have my permission. [01:43:04.000 --> 01:43:05.000] Folks, we do see you there. [01:43:05.000 --> 01:43:07.000] Tyler, Tony, Andy Brent, we do see you. [01:43:07.000 --> 01:43:13.000] So hang on and we will pick up on y'all at the other side of the break and also take in what Steve's got going on there. [01:43:13.000 --> 01:43:17.000] I believe he has a comment about something that happened at a court. [01:43:17.000 --> 01:43:31.000] But folks, we really would appreciate it if you would send an email letting us know whether or not your area of Texas, whether it be Dallas or Houston or San Antonio or even here in Austin again. [01:43:31.000 --> 01:43:46.000] If you would be willing to come to a due process of law seminar that will be about two days long, but we will be beating up on the traffic laws and the traffic courts specifically for those two days. [01:43:46.000 --> 01:43:51.000] And teaching you exactly what the tools are you need to make them pay. [01:43:51.000 --> 01:43:52.000] This is Rural Law Radio. [01:43:52.000 --> 01:43:56.000] Eddie Craig, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens will be right back on the other side. [01:43:56.000 --> 01:44:00.000] So hang in there. [01:44:00.000 --> 01:44:06.000] It is so enlightening to listen to 90.1 FM, but finding things on the internet isn't so easy. [01:44:06.000 --> 01:44:09.000] And neither is finding like-minded people to share it with. [01:44:09.000 --> 01:44:12.000] Oh, well, I guess you haven't heard of Brave New Books then. [01:44:12.000 --> 01:44:13.000] Brave New Books? 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[01:46:41.000 --> 01:46:45.000] Okay, now we're going to bring Steve up here, but before we do that, [01:46:45.000 --> 01:46:53.000] if you would have interest in attending a due process of law seminar specifically on combating the traffic courts [01:46:53.000 --> 01:47:03.000] and the traffic citation system in general, please send us an email to eddydieatruleoflawradio.com. [01:47:03.000 --> 01:47:11.000] Please be sure and let me know what city you're in, how many people you could talk to that you think might attend, [01:47:11.000 --> 01:47:17.000] and so on and so forth. Just enough information that we can check and see if we'd have enough people out there listening [01:47:17.000 --> 01:47:22.000] to actually make it possible for us to set up and schedule a seminar there. [01:47:22.000 --> 01:47:27.000] Okay, Steve, before we start with our callers, what was the issue you had for us? [01:47:27.000 --> 01:47:34.000] Well, I've got a friend of mine. I know these issues are going to start with due process, [01:47:34.000 --> 01:47:37.000] but I also know that there's a lot more to it. [01:47:37.000 --> 01:47:41.000] This friend of mine filed a motion before the court. [01:47:41.000 --> 01:47:48.000] His court hearing was to be held at 9 o'clock on any given morning. [01:47:48.000 --> 01:47:57.000] He shows up at 9 o'clock and the armed guard at the door would not let him enter the court building. [01:47:57.000 --> 01:48:02.000] What else can you throw at this guy besides the kitchen sink? [01:48:02.000 --> 01:48:07.000] Was the building itself closed for some reason? [01:48:07.000 --> 01:48:13.000] No. No, no, no. Anybody else was allowed in there except for this guy. [01:48:13.000 --> 01:48:20.000] Okay, have you read the Terroristic Threat Statute for the State of Texas? [01:48:20.000 --> 01:48:29.000] Well, I was going to tell you that the guy at the door that wouldn't grant him access to a public building was wearing a gun. [01:48:29.000 --> 01:48:35.000] Yeah, but I was in the courtroom once talking to the bailiffs, [01:48:35.000 --> 01:48:39.000] and the district judge, Wise County ran in and said, [01:48:39.000 --> 01:48:46.000] Mr. Kelston, you're creating a disturbance. You get out of this courthouse or I'll have you arrested. [01:48:46.000 --> 01:48:49.000] I said, oh, jeez, judge, I'm sorry. [01:48:49.000 --> 01:48:53.000] I reached in my pocket and pulled out this little digital recorder. [01:48:53.000 --> 01:48:55.000] I didn't have this turned on. [01:48:55.000 --> 01:48:59.000] I stuck it right in his face. Will you say that again? [01:48:59.000 --> 01:49:05.000] He stood there breathing heavy and I know what he was thinking. [01:49:05.000 --> 01:49:11.000] That darn district attorney, he didn't tell me everything and he was right. He didn't. [01:49:11.000 --> 01:49:17.000] I was talking to the bailiff for the purpose of making criminal charges against the district attorney [01:49:17.000 --> 01:49:28.000] because the sheriff refused to dispatch an officer to arrest the DA and said that the bailiff was the county court security officer and I should take it to him. [01:49:28.000 --> 01:49:41.000] So I'm making the complaint to a police officer and the judge runs in the room and orders me to leave the building or he'll have me arrested. [01:49:41.000 --> 01:49:56.000] The way I read the code, if you threaten someone for the purpose of denying them access to a public building or interrupting their access to a public building, [01:49:56.000 --> 01:50:14.000] that under I think it's 2207 penal code is making a terroristic threat and when that bailiff blocked this person's access while prominently displaying a deadly weapon, [01:50:14.000 --> 01:50:18.000] I would interpret that as a terroristic threat. [01:50:18.000 --> 01:50:22.000] Well, he was, yeah, I would too because there was something else that happened. [01:50:22.000 --> 01:50:29.000] This guy was told to stay right there. He said, do not enter this building. Stay right there. [01:50:29.000 --> 01:50:37.000] He went into the cop went into the courtroom had a couple of words chatted with the judge came back out and said, oh, that's already been heard. [01:50:37.000 --> 01:50:42.000] You lost. [01:50:42.000 --> 01:50:45.000] Okay, they're saying that. [01:50:45.000 --> 01:50:58.000] Well, that should go to the judge as well because apparently it's much better to file it against somebody who actually didn't do anything or doesn't think he did anything. [01:50:58.000 --> 01:51:02.000] But the judge sent the bailiff. [01:51:02.000 --> 01:51:07.000] He used the bailiff as a deadly weapon. [01:51:07.000 --> 01:51:16.000] In order to interrupt this guy's access to a public building, you have any we any idea why they did that? [01:51:16.000 --> 01:51:19.000] I have an idea. [01:51:19.000 --> 01:51:21.000] What was the case he was going in for? [01:51:21.000 --> 01:51:29.000] Yeah, he's going into contest a forcible detainer. [01:51:29.000 --> 01:51:45.000] Now, I have my idea is that the judges in these forcible detainer hearings doing some background work on these guys, we realize that all of their campaign contributions are public knowledge. [01:51:45.000 --> 01:52:02.000] We're not surprised anymore when we do this background work to find out that several banks, trustees, mortgage electronic registration systems give charitable contributions to these judges campaigns. [01:52:02.000 --> 01:52:06.000] So that could go to bribery. [01:52:06.000 --> 01:52:11.000] We know that so in order to keep from getting caught. [01:52:11.000 --> 01:52:18.000] The only thing they can do is, is have an exporter hearing and deny this guy access. [01:52:18.000 --> 01:52:20.000] Was this in Texas? [01:52:20.000 --> 01:52:22.000] It was. [01:52:22.000 --> 01:52:25.000] Oh, what county? [01:52:25.000 --> 01:52:28.000] Well, I'm kind of reluctant to say. [01:52:28.000 --> 01:52:32.000] I will say it is a neighboring county to the west of Travis. [01:52:32.000 --> 01:52:34.000] Okay. [01:52:34.000 --> 01:52:37.000] Gee, that narrows me down. [01:52:37.000 --> 01:52:40.000] Well, there's a lot of counties out west. [01:52:40.000 --> 01:52:55.000] I would suggest that he look at filing terroristic threat charges against the judge who used the bailiff as a deadly weapon in order to deny him access to a public building. [01:52:55.000 --> 01:53:00.000] What is the definition of conspiracy, Randy? [01:53:00.000 --> 01:53:10.000] When one person has a meeting, I'd have to go read it to get exact definition, but I would avoid conspiracy here. [01:53:10.000 --> 01:53:20.000] Leave the bailiff out of it and accuse the judge of using the bailiff to threaten him with. [01:53:20.000 --> 01:53:23.000] And the judge is going to say, did you threaten him with your pistol? [01:53:23.000 --> 01:53:25.000] And he's going to say, no, I didn't do nothing. [01:53:25.000 --> 01:53:27.000] I just couldn't come into the building. [01:53:27.000 --> 01:53:29.000] Why is he trying to get me arrested? [01:53:29.000 --> 01:53:34.000] You get the judge mad at the bailiff and get these two guys fighting with each other. [01:53:34.000 --> 01:53:41.000] I love to charge the one who ordered something. [01:53:41.000 --> 01:53:54.000] And if he orders something and the guy who does it doesn't do it diplomatically, then you charge the first person, not the second. [01:53:54.000 --> 01:54:04.000] Or like, you know, when I run the routine, I file against the prosecutor for not doing his job and with the judge and then judge them do his job. [01:54:04.000 --> 01:54:13.000] I file against the judge for not arresting the prosecutor and the judge is going to be absolutely irate because he didn't do nothing. [01:54:13.000 --> 01:54:18.000] I'm just trying to cover your behind and now I'm in trouble. [01:54:18.000 --> 01:54:24.000] I'm going to interject. I don't want them fighting with each other. [01:54:24.000 --> 01:54:32.000] I want the situation to be where they're now fighting mad dog killer and crusher in the neighboring jail cell. [01:54:32.000 --> 01:54:36.000] Well, this is how we'll get them there if we turn them against each other. [01:54:36.000 --> 01:54:40.000] We won't get them if they line up behind each other. [01:54:40.000 --> 01:54:43.000] Hey, that just makes the shooting easier. [01:54:43.000 --> 01:55:00.000] I'm not ready to go there. I've spent too much time on the sharp end and I don't see that as a good solution if we can get them fighting with one another to have less energy to fight with us. [01:55:00.000 --> 01:55:13.000] And especially if you can get the bailiff and we get the judge crawling down the bailiff's throat because the judge is getting in trouble for what the bailiff did, but then the judge told him to. [01:55:13.000 --> 01:55:25.000] Now we get these guys. We have to get them separated somehow, but the real culprit here is not the bailiff. He's just a funky. [01:55:25.000 --> 01:55:26.000] Right. [01:55:26.000 --> 01:55:30.000] That's the armed thug complex I was talking about a minute ago. [01:55:30.000 --> 01:55:34.000] He doesn't understand his job. He shouldn't be wearing the uniform trying to do that. [01:55:34.000 --> 01:55:38.000] Yeah, I agree, but you're not going to teach him anything. [01:55:38.000 --> 01:55:43.000] He's a toadie. They hire him because he's a narcissistic sociopath. [01:55:43.000 --> 01:55:46.000] 75 IQ isn't it, Steve? That's why we can't teach him anything. [01:55:46.000 --> 01:55:47.000] Yeah, exactly. [01:55:47.000 --> 01:55:56.000] That's not the real reason they hire him. They hire him because they're sociopaths. 25% of the people are sociopaths. [01:55:56.000 --> 01:56:07.000] If you're in a restaurant and a baby cries out, 75% of the people will cringe and feel empathy for the baby. [01:56:07.000 --> 01:56:10.000] 25% won't. [01:56:10.000 --> 01:56:19.000] Now they may have to understand psychological empathy, but they won't feel it. [01:56:19.000 --> 01:56:26.000] And these guys, the courts and the police look for the sociopaths. [01:56:26.000 --> 01:56:39.000] The guys who don't have these, this empathy, you can get those guys to do most anything, especially if they're also narcissistic, totally self centered. [01:56:39.000 --> 01:56:45.000] That's the definition of psychopath. [01:56:45.000 --> 01:56:49.000] And they hire these guys specifically because of those characteristics. [01:56:49.000 --> 01:56:57.000] And you have to understand when you got this guy here and you have people come in and all day and they're distraught and frustrated and they're angry. [01:56:57.000 --> 01:57:03.000] If you have someone who's empathetic, it make him nuts. [01:57:03.000 --> 01:57:11.000] He'll feel for these people and driving crazy and you wind up with ulcers and in the hospital, you have to quit. [01:57:11.000 --> 01:57:14.000] They hire the sociopaths. The sociopaths don't have that problem. [01:57:14.000 --> 01:57:20.000] But they have other problems in that they're not empathetic and they do stupid stuff. [01:57:20.000 --> 01:57:25.000] They don't know when to back off and shut their mouths and act like a professional. [01:57:25.000 --> 01:57:33.000] So when they do that, then we turn that around and accuse the judge because we're the sovereigns. [01:57:33.000 --> 01:57:35.000] We don't deal with flunkies on the bottom. [01:57:35.000 --> 01:57:40.000] We deal with the leaders that we put in place. [01:57:40.000 --> 01:57:50.000] Everything the bailiff does, he does directly at the behest of the JP and I will hold the JP responsible, not the flunky. [01:57:50.000 --> 01:57:59.000] Because you're not going to do any good if you get rid of him. They've got a hundred flunky standing behind him waiting to take his place. [01:57:59.000 --> 01:58:07.000] Just like that intelligence issue we talked about earlier, we need to go for the head of the snake. [01:58:07.000 --> 01:58:11.000] That's my position and I'm sticking to it. [01:58:11.000 --> 01:58:15.000] Alright folks, yep, I'm sorry, Rene, go ahead. You're going to take us out? [01:58:15.000 --> 01:58:19.000] Very good. No, let's argue about who's going to take us out. [01:58:19.000 --> 01:58:23.000] Alright, this is Ray DeCalton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig with La Radio. [01:58:23.000 --> 01:58:27.000] I call in numbers 512-646-1984. [01:58:27.000 --> 01:58:30.000] We're going to the top of the hour break. [01:58:30.000 --> 01:58:35.000] Tyler, Tony, Andy, Brent, Edward, Barrett, I see you there. [01:58:35.000 --> 01:58:45.000] We will finish up with Steve on the other side and if Steve is gracious enough, we'll keep him with us for some of his input. [01:58:45.000 --> 01:58:47.000] So I'll put you on the dime, Steve. [01:58:47.000 --> 01:58:50.000] I can do that. Okay, good. [01:59:17.000 --> 01:59:20.000] Good, good, good. [01:59:47.000 --> 01:59:51.000] That's freestudybible.com. [01:59:51.000 --> 02:00:18.000] You are listening to the Logos Radio Network. LogosRadionetwork.com.