[00:00.000 --> 00:05.100]  This news brief brought to you by the International News Net.
[00:05.100 --> 00:10.560]  Libyan Sammy Al-Sadi has filed a criminal complaint with London Police stating Britain's
[00:10.560 --> 00:16.640]  MI6 spy service and the CIA handed him over to Mamar Gaddafi's regime in 2004.
[00:16.640 --> 00:22.320]  Al-Sadi said he and his family of six were detained while living in London, then illegally
[00:22.320 --> 00:24.600]  rendered to Libyan authorities.
[00:24.600 --> 00:30.400]  British legal charity Reprieve has asked Scotland Yard to investigate allegations of conspiracy
[00:30.400 --> 00:33.240]  to torture.
[00:33.240 --> 00:37.560]  Police early Thursday cleared an Occupy camp set up by protesters on the campus of the
[00:37.560 --> 00:39.320]  University of California Berkeley.
[00:39.320 --> 00:42.800]  They bulldozed and moved into the area after the raid.
[00:42.800 --> 00:48.040]  Graduate student Ian Saxon said, this size of force is entirely unnecessary, asking
[00:48.040 --> 00:53.160]  this is what they do to students who exercise their first amendment right.
[00:53.160 --> 00:58.880]  Anti-fascist demonstrators in Poland recently deployed tiny homemade drones equipped with
[00:58.880 --> 01:03.960]  a video camera to get a bird's eye view of police battalions and riot gear.
[01:03.960 --> 01:09.360]  Wired magazine editor-in-chief Chris Anderson says an aerial view is the next step and do
[01:09.360 --> 01:11.640]  it yourself citizen video.
[01:11.640 --> 01:17.120]  Anderson suggests Occupy movement protesters strap live stream equipment to model aircraft
[01:17.120 --> 01:21.560]  and document history as it unfolds.
[01:21.560 --> 01:26.200]  Tens of thousands of protesters gathered in Taria Square Friday for a rally aimed at
[01:26.200 --> 01:31.680]  pushing Egypt's ruling military to cede power 10 months after the uprising that toppled
[01:31.680 --> 01:33.840]  Hosni Mubarak's regime.
[01:33.840 --> 01:38.960]  As elections drew near, the first poll since Mubarak was ousted, protesters are demanding
[01:38.960 --> 01:43.960]  more control over the constitution the new parliament is set to draft.
[01:43.960 --> 01:48.680]  They want to withdraw every government document that proposes shielding the military's budget
[01:48.680 --> 01:50.400]  from public scrutiny.
[01:50.400 --> 01:55.760]  The Supreme Council of the Armed Forces, which took charge after Mubarak's ouster and suspended
[01:55.760 --> 02:00.360]  the constitution and parliament, claims it will hand over power once a new president
[02:00.360 --> 02:03.400]  is elected, which could be more than a year from now.
[02:03.400 --> 02:08.360]  Al Jazeera said there are calls for a sit-in until the document is withdrawn by the government
[02:08.360 --> 02:11.480]  adding there is big momentum behind the protest.
[02:11.480 --> 02:19.160]  A report Tuesday by the Justice Policy Institute details the impact of policing in public schools.
[02:19.160 --> 02:24.360]  It found police presence in schools devastates the learning environment, increases the number
[02:24.360 --> 02:29.880]  of arrests and referrals of youth into the juvenile justice system, and disrupts a child's
[02:29.880 --> 02:35.560]  educational process by favoring suspension and expulsion over communal learning.
[02:35.560 --> 02:41.200]  The report says metal detectors, drug-sniffing dogs, armed guards, riot police, and high
[02:41.200 --> 02:47.920]  walls topped with barbed wire are reminiscent of a prison or a checkpoint in a war zone.
[02:47.920 --> 02:53.120]  Even in the U.S., these scenes of surveillance and control are most visible in public schools,
[02:53.120 --> 02:58.120]  wherein some education is becoming increasingly synonymous with incarceration.
[02:58.120 --> 03:09.120]  More details on this story visit INN4report.net
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[03:21.920 --> 03:40.920]  Alright folks, we are back, this is Rural Law Radio.
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[03:51.920 --> 03:54.920]  So the rest of the show, we're going to be taking your calls.
[03:54.920 --> 03:57.920]  We may or may not get you screened before we go.
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[04:03.920 --> 04:06.920]  Right now, we're going to go ahead and finish up with Rick in California.
[04:06.920 --> 04:09.920]  Alright, Rick, go ahead.
[04:09.920 --> 04:14.920]  So basically what happened was she was let off, she goes back to court, demands, you know,
[04:14.920 --> 04:16.920]  and follows a trial by jury motion.
[04:16.920 --> 04:21.920]  They said unless she had $500, she wasn't going to get one.
[04:21.920 --> 04:25.920]  This was actually by the Fourth Clerk who told her that.
[04:25.920 --> 04:32.920]  And so when she goes in front of the judge, basically she says she's already a trial by jury because it's criminal.
[04:32.920 --> 04:34.920]  This was a municipal court of record.
[04:34.920 --> 04:40.920]  Basically if I'm guilty, any motion she filed was just like, yeah, okay, just move on, move on.
[04:40.920 --> 04:42.920]  Next motion denied.
[04:42.920 --> 04:47.920]  So, you know, basically one of the questions I guess you guys answered was about the appeal bond.
[04:47.920 --> 04:51.920]  They say she has to pay $300 and something, almost $100.
[04:51.920 --> 04:58.920]  They say she has to pay a good amount of almost $700 just to appeal.
[04:58.920 --> 05:02.920]  Well, she can do an appeal bond, a PR bond.
[05:02.920 --> 05:05.920]  She does not have to post it in money.
[05:05.920 --> 05:11.920]  The problem is, like I said, these judges think they can dictate the type of bond.
[05:11.920 --> 05:13.920]  That's not true.
[05:13.920 --> 05:19.920]  There has to be a good cause for them to set a cash bond.
[05:19.920 --> 05:23.920]  And this is not one of them.
[05:23.920 --> 05:30.920]  Normally a cash bond would only apply to someone that has repeatedly failed to appear
[05:30.920 --> 05:35.920]  or skipped out on a previous bond, then will they actually demand a cash bond?
[05:35.920 --> 05:36.920]  Yeah, Randy.
[05:36.920 --> 05:38.920]  That's what they're doing.
[05:38.920 --> 05:42.920]  I can't find anything in law to authorize it.
[05:42.920 --> 05:43.920]  Well, that's true.
[05:43.920 --> 05:45.920]  That's the whole point.
[05:45.920 --> 05:48.920]  Yeah, they're just doing what they're deciding to do.
[05:48.920 --> 05:56.920]  The cash part is, at least in Texas law, is your option and it's very clear in law.
[05:56.920 --> 06:03.920]  That's an option that can be exercised by the defendant, not by the court.
[06:03.920 --> 06:09.920]  So they may be able to demand a higher bond, but not cash.
[06:09.920 --> 06:11.920]  Maybe you guys can correct me in something.
[06:11.920 --> 06:18.920]  The craziest part of all of this, which I didn't explain to you guys, was she was given
[06:18.920 --> 06:23.920]  supposedly a citation for speeding, which she was not.
[06:23.920 --> 06:27.920]  She was charged for driving them a suspended license.
[06:27.920 --> 06:32.920]  However, for the driving them a suspended license case, what happened was when they
[06:32.920 --> 06:38.920]  went and they were doing that case, the officer said he gave her another notice to appear,
[06:38.920 --> 06:41.920]  which they wouldn't show to her because he never did.
[06:41.920 --> 06:45.920]  And so they basically gave her a different court date out of that court date.
[06:45.920 --> 06:46.920]  It was just weird.
[06:46.920 --> 06:53.920]  They just basically gave her another court date for speeding when he never basically cited her for that.
[06:53.920 --> 06:57.920]  Just a lot of weird stuff going on over there in Texas, I guess.
[06:57.920 --> 07:02.920]  Well, yeah, to say the very least.
[07:02.920 --> 07:06.920]  There is a tremendous amount of incompetence.
[07:06.920 --> 07:09.920]  Extreme amount of incompetence.
[07:09.920 --> 07:17.920]  I mean, basically these judges in these lower courts and district courts are trying to turn Texas into an oligarchy.
[07:17.920 --> 07:19.920]  So here's the question.
[07:19.920 --> 07:24.920]  You have a right to try by jury and every criminal matter that they denier that.
[07:24.920 --> 07:26.920]  Why don't you just go to federal court?
[07:26.920 --> 07:29.920]  What's all this focus of going back into the appeal?
[07:29.920 --> 07:31.920]  Well, yeah, you can sue them immediately.
[07:31.920 --> 07:37.920]  The question is whether or not you have a witness or something on the record where they did that.
[07:37.920 --> 07:44.920]  Otherwise, it's just your word against theirs and they will always prevail because they will all collude to life.
[07:44.920 --> 07:49.920]  So you better have witnesses and you better have something on the record or recording.
[07:49.920 --> 07:54.920]  They don't know about the proves that they did exactly what you're accusing them of.
[07:54.920 --> 07:57.920]  So basically she was in the court of record.
[07:57.920 --> 08:02.920]  If they didn't ask her in some way that she were to get the recording or from the sender graphic reporter.
[08:02.920 --> 08:08.920]  If she can get proof that the judge said that you're not going to get the trial by jury because you have to pay money.
[08:08.920 --> 08:11.920]  Then she has a solid case in the federal court, basically.
[08:11.920 --> 08:12.920]  Oh, absolutely.
[08:12.920 --> 08:13.920]  Has a solid case.
[08:13.920 --> 08:16.920]  She had a file criminal charges against the judge.
[08:16.920 --> 08:18.920]  Not less than $400 for a federal lawsuit.
[08:18.920 --> 08:24.920]  I mean, let me do it easier for people just to the federal court, which is what I'm going to start showing people how to do.
[08:24.920 --> 08:25.920]  Yeah.
[08:25.920 --> 08:31.920]  However, in the courts of record, they need to make sure that the first thing they do when they're called is ask for all procedures.
[08:31.920 --> 08:33.920]  To be on the record.
[08:33.920 --> 08:38.920]  Even a quarter record by default has no court reporter active.
[08:38.920 --> 08:41.920]  Unless one of the parties moves to have it.
[08:41.920 --> 08:42.920]  Yeah.
[08:42.920 --> 08:43.920]  File the motion to that effect.
[08:43.920 --> 08:44.920]  Right.
[08:44.920 --> 08:45.920]  Okay.
[08:45.920 --> 08:46.920]  I see.
[08:46.920 --> 08:47.920]  Look on my website.
[08:47.920 --> 08:49.920]  I've got one request for court report.
[08:49.920 --> 08:50.920]  Yeah.
[08:50.920 --> 08:51.920]  So do I.
[08:51.920 --> 08:52.920]  So.
[08:52.920 --> 08:53.920]  Okay.
[08:53.920 --> 08:54.920]  Well, thank you very much, guys.
[08:54.920 --> 08:55.920]  I really appreciate it.
[08:55.920 --> 08:57.920]  And I guess she's probably going to try to do that.
[08:57.920 --> 09:09.920]  But if they make it cash, then I think that the courts are basically doing nothing more than doing it off of people's wealth, which is illegal anyway.
[09:09.920 --> 09:12.920]  So that'll be another federal issue question right there.
[09:12.920 --> 09:13.920]  Yeah.
[09:13.920 --> 09:20.920]  Rick, if you'll hit me up on Skype, I will send you a copy of that motion for a court reporter.
[09:20.920 --> 09:24.920]  So you can see exactly why we want one here in Texas.
[09:24.920 --> 09:32.920]  But even the court of records presume everything is off the record unless one of the parties demands it be on the record.
[09:32.920 --> 09:33.920]  Okay.
[09:33.920 --> 09:34.920]  Okay.
[09:34.920 --> 09:35.920]  That makes sense.
[09:35.920 --> 09:36.920]  You're doing on Skype.
[09:36.920 --> 09:37.920]  Yeah.
[09:37.920 --> 09:40.920]  You're already in my contact list.
[09:40.920 --> 09:42.920]  I should already be in yours.
[09:42.920 --> 09:43.920]  Okay.
[09:43.920 --> 09:44.920]  Okay.
[09:44.920 --> 09:45.920]  I think you're right.
[09:45.920 --> 09:46.920]  You're right.
[09:46.920 --> 09:47.920]  Okay.
[09:47.920 --> 09:48.920]  Well, thank you guys.
[09:48.920 --> 09:49.920]  And I'll let you guys get on to the next caller.
[09:49.920 --> 09:50.920]  All right, Rick.
[09:50.920 --> 09:52.920]  I'm really glad you're back, Randy.
[09:52.920 --> 09:53.920]  Thank you.
[09:53.920 --> 09:54.920]  Nice to be back.
[09:54.920 --> 09:55.920]  Thank you, Eddie.
[09:55.920 --> 09:56.920]  You guys are the good ones.
[09:56.920 --> 09:57.920]  Yep.
[09:57.920 --> 09:58.920]  You too, Rick.
[09:58.920 --> 09:59.920]  Thanks for calling in.
[09:59.920 --> 10:00.920]  All right.
[10:00.920 --> 10:02.920]  We're going to go to Storm in Oregon.
[10:02.920 --> 10:04.920]  Storm, what can we do for you?
[10:04.920 --> 10:06.920]  How y'all doing tonight?
[10:06.920 --> 10:08.920]  Doing all right.
[10:08.920 --> 10:10.920]  Just had a question.
[10:10.920 --> 10:18.920]  Just sat through a seminar from Tim Turner.
[10:18.920 --> 10:23.920]  Yeah, I noticed that Randy was in there, I recognized his voice as soon as he came up and asked questions.
[10:23.920 --> 10:26.920]  I've been listening to you guys for, you know, so long.
[10:26.920 --> 10:29.920]  I just knew Randy's voice when he came up to the mic.
[10:29.920 --> 10:31.920]  So I just wanted to run it by you guys.
[10:31.920 --> 10:33.920]  And I know I don't want to upset Eddie.
[10:33.920 --> 10:39.920]  I know he makes the, you know, mixing the commercial and, you know, the UCC and all that.
[10:39.920 --> 10:44.920]  So I don't want to upset Eddie, but I just had to run it by and see what you guys thought of that.
[10:44.920 --> 10:48.920]  And if you do anything with it.
[10:48.920 --> 10:53.920]  I am not happy with Tim Turner, not wondering a bit.
[10:53.920 --> 11:09.920]  He invited me to that seminar and halfway through it, he stopped the seminar and got up there and started talking about this Restore America program where they had a couple of generals who was going to go with them.
[11:09.920 --> 11:19.920]  And they were going to remove all of these public officials and try them in court or all of these legislators and then hang them.
[11:19.920 --> 11:28.920]  And I thought, I'm sitting here on camera and he's talking high treason.
[11:28.920 --> 11:37.920]  I wanted to choke him and I have so many people tell me they've seen that seminar that make me cringe every time I hear that.
[11:37.920 --> 11:41.920]  I sat through Tim's presentation.
[11:41.920 --> 11:46.920]  I came out of the presentation knowing no more than when I went into it.
[11:46.920 --> 11:57.920]  I looked at Tim's case law and all of it that I looked at was bogus off point or didn't have anything to do with what he was talking about.
[11:57.920 --> 12:08.920]  And I've had a number of people call me who have tried to use his process and they call me to try to keep them out of jail.
[12:08.920 --> 12:13.920]  Got myself into this mess now. How do I get out?
[12:13.920 --> 12:19.920]  Exactly. I had two guys. Robert Fox called me. I was in North Carolina.
[12:19.920 --> 12:27.920]  And there were these, I'm sorry, there were three guys. They since wound up on 60 minutes.
[12:27.920 --> 12:31.920]  They had filed liens against the judge.
[12:31.920 --> 12:42.920]  I said, and the U.S. attorney came after him for tampering with a male or some kind of male fraud issue.
[12:42.920 --> 12:54.920]  I said, well, how big were the liens? 11 trillion? Oh, well, what was the issue? Traffic?
[12:54.920 --> 13:00.920]  I said, what were you thinking?
[13:00.920 --> 13:08.920]  And they just wound up on 60 minutes over that night. They asked me what I thought would happen. I said, oh, you win.
[13:08.920 --> 13:15.920]  You'll be acquitted. I said, oh, wonderful. Yeah, you've been the tatties, but you won't be tied.
[13:15.920 --> 13:19.920]  You'll beat the time, but you won't beat the ride.
[13:19.920 --> 13:23.920]  I had just came from talking to Ed Waller.
[13:23.920 --> 13:30.920]  He was a long time radio talk show host and he filed a lot of these liens and then Feds came after him.
[13:30.920 --> 13:36.920]  And with what they charged him with, he would have served 160 years.
[13:36.920 --> 13:41.920]  He spent a year in federal lockup waiting for trial, he went to trial.
[13:41.920 --> 13:46.920]  And Dr. Clarkson came on and put him on the stand.
[13:46.920 --> 13:51.920]  And when he was done, they found him not guilty on all counts.
[13:51.920 --> 13:55.920]  And he was crowing about winning this one.
[13:55.920 --> 13:59.920]  And I said, well, tell me, Ed, where are you living now?
[13:59.920 --> 14:01.920]  I said, I'm living in this travel trailer over here.
[14:01.920 --> 14:07.920]  I said, well, where were you living before this started? Nice three bedroom house.
[14:07.920 --> 14:12.920]  What about your family? Where are they? Oh, my wife divorced me.
[14:12.920 --> 14:16.920]  He lost his family. He lost everything he owned.
[14:16.920 --> 14:23.920]  He spent a year in a federal lockup and he won.
[14:23.920 --> 14:31.920]  Excuse me. I have seen no one achieve remedy using the commercial process.
[14:31.920 --> 14:38.920]  Now, I've heard people claim, make claims of remedy, but I've never talked to those people.
[14:38.920 --> 14:43.920]  I never could find them. I wanted to talk to those people.
[14:43.920 --> 14:50.920]  But I have never talked to anyone who has personally achieved remedy in the commercial process.
[14:50.920 --> 14:59.920]  I have yet to find a court case that shows anyone filed anything that achieved remedy in the commercial process.
[14:59.920 --> 15:10.920]  And Tim Turner came on this show and told everybody he was an attorney when he was no such thing.
[15:10.920 --> 15:14.920]  And I was not happy about that either.
[15:14.920 --> 15:21.920]  Well, I'm glad it was a good feeling when I was watching this and I saw you there.
[15:21.920 --> 15:24.920]  I couldn't wait to get a hold of you.
[15:24.920 --> 15:31.920]  And I figured calling in was the best way, asking you to pick in your brain and seeing what you thought about that.
[15:31.920 --> 15:37.920]  To change the subject, just a hair, Eddie, did you receive my, I did two.
[15:37.920 --> 15:41.920]  I got motions from Dan over there in Connecticut.
[15:41.920 --> 15:48.920]  The limny motion and the brady motion.
[15:48.920 --> 15:51.920]  And I did those for Oregon, the best I could.
[15:51.920 --> 15:59.920]  I think I sent you a copy. I don't know if you got them or not, but I'm putting the money I can buy.
[15:59.920 --> 16:07.920]  If you have a bunch of Oregon documentation, if you'll send it to me, I'll put it up on Jurisian Proofs.
[16:07.920 --> 16:13.920]  Yeah, I, okay, I mean, I can send you a copy as well. You're at Randy at Rule of Law.
[16:13.920 --> 16:16.920]  Yes.
[16:16.920 --> 16:22.920]  I'll make an Oregon folder so people from Oregon can go there and look for documentation.
[16:22.920 --> 16:33.920]  Anybody out there who has some good basic motions that we can turn into essentially blank motions where people can just fill in the blanks and stuff.
[16:33.920 --> 16:37.920]  Just send it to me. I'll post it in my state.
[16:37.920 --> 16:42.920]  And then I just kind of plagiarize them and give what I could to them.
[16:42.920 --> 16:47.920]  Go ahead and send me another email so I can find it in my email and I'll see what I can do.
[16:47.920 --> 16:52.920]  You plagiarized? I can't believe that.
[16:52.920 --> 17:03.920]  All right, we're about to go on break. This is Rule of Law Radio 512646984. We'll be right back.
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[19:22.920 --> 19:33.920]  Call in number is 512-646-1984. We are going to go ahead and finish up with our callers here.
[19:33.920 --> 19:39.920]  Or at least we're going to try to. We have a little over an hour and 40 minutes left in the show.
[19:39.920 --> 19:44.920]  Okay, area code 210. Can you let us know what you got?
[19:44.920 --> 19:49.920]  Please, can I get your first name in the state you're calling from?
[19:49.920 --> 19:52.920]  Alrighty, this is Sandy in San Antonio, Texas.
[19:52.920 --> 19:53.920]  Hi Sandy.
[19:53.920 --> 19:55.920]  Hi, how are you?
[19:55.920 --> 19:56.920]  I'm doing fine.
[19:56.920 --> 20:06.920]  That's great. We talked the other day and I sent you my case with all my motions and everything.
[20:06.920 --> 20:07.920]  Yes ma'am.
[20:07.920 --> 20:20.920]  And I did go to the jury trial as we discussed and I was found guilty and I filed for the motion for retrial.
[20:20.920 --> 20:23.920]  Motion for new trial?
[20:23.920 --> 20:25.920]  New trial. Yeah, new trial.
[20:25.920 --> 20:26.920]  Okay.
[20:26.920 --> 20:31.920]  That's correct. And I took it over there the next day like you told me.
[20:31.920 --> 20:40.920]  And the clerk, the county clerk was there. It's a small community.
[20:40.920 --> 20:52.920]  And she told me that the judge would not be back in until November the 30th, but that I only had 30, I only had 10 days.
[20:52.920 --> 21:01.920]  Still, I just had 10 days to do the appeal if I chose to.
[21:01.920 --> 21:09.920]  And I was listening when you were talking with the person just a few minutes ago about the bond.
[21:09.920 --> 21:17.920]  Well first, let's see, she told me I had five days and she said he wouldn't be there until the 30th.
[21:17.920 --> 21:24.920]  There was a court of no record, but I had also asked for a court reporter.
[21:24.920 --> 21:35.920]  So she also said that my bond would be $1,000. They didn't tell me, well, I'm assuming...
[21:35.920 --> 21:38.920]  What was the total amount of fines assessed in court?
[21:38.920 --> 21:50.920]  He, the judge assessed $150 and court cost was $105.10. So it's $255.10.
[21:50.920 --> 21:53.920]  So where did they get a thousand from?
[21:53.920 --> 22:08.920]  She said in order for them to transfer the translation fee for the recording that they made, I had to put a $500 deposit for that, but it wouldn't be...
[22:08.920 --> 22:13.920]  It may not be that much, but that's about what it was the last time they had to do one.
[22:13.920 --> 22:23.920]  So if it was less than that, I would get money back. If it was more than that, then it's in their bill.
[22:23.920 --> 22:29.920]  So I would have to pay $500 for the recording.
[22:29.920 --> 22:35.920]  Did they tell you, okay, they have to give you something more reasonable than that?
[22:35.920 --> 22:39.920]  They have to tell you how much it's going to cost for the transcript.
[22:39.920 --> 22:51.920]  And the thing is, if this is not an actual court of record, I don't know how that recording would constitute a copy of the record.
[22:51.920 --> 23:02.920]  What I would do is simply get a copy of the audio recording itself, which should only be a few bucks, $10, $15 at the most, and transcribe it myself.
[23:02.920 --> 23:04.920]  Okay.
[23:04.920 --> 23:12.920]  So I would be able to... Wait, wait a minute. Hold on. The clerk doesn't charge you anything for the record.
[23:12.920 --> 23:15.920]  That's a court reporter must do that.
[23:15.920 --> 23:18.920]  Well, there was no reporter. They did it on a recording.
[23:18.920 --> 23:19.920]  Yes.
[23:19.920 --> 23:21.920]  Then there is no recording.
[23:21.920 --> 23:33.920]  A handheld paper quarter the judge had in front of him. He turned it off and on, you know, at different times when we were talking.
[23:33.920 --> 23:37.920]  Why? Did he say he was going off the record when he did that?
[23:37.920 --> 23:39.920]  Yes, I believe he did.
[23:39.920 --> 23:41.920]  And did he say why?
[23:41.920 --> 23:59.920]  Like, it was a question or something, and when the jury went out and went out of the room.
[23:59.920 --> 24:06.920]  Off the record, questions before the court are not off the record, Jim.
[24:06.920 --> 24:16.920]  Like motions and such that when you bring up an issue that the jury can't hear, that's not off the record.
[24:16.920 --> 24:31.920]  Actually, I don't remember what was said because also, you know, they had sent... The judge had... The prosecutor had motions before we went into court.
[24:31.920 --> 24:46.920]  And when I sent in the motion for new trial, you had told me everything that I was thinking that I was going to say.
[24:46.920 --> 24:55.920]  He told me I couldn't bring up in court about the... Basically about the motions and...
[24:55.920 --> 24:59.920]  You don't bring it up in court. You write it into the motion for new trial.
[24:59.920 --> 25:03.920]  Okay, I did. I gave him, you know, exactly what you told me.
[25:03.920 --> 25:17.920]  And I put it in there where you said to... Well, exactly like you said, that according to the motion of the prosecutor,
[25:17.920 --> 25:25.920]  the points eight and nine of the state's motion in Lemony that was approved by him, I put it just like you said.
[25:25.920 --> 25:34.920]  Yeah, Randy, what the state moved in a motion in Lemony to deprive her of declaring her innocence before the jury
[25:34.920 --> 25:43.920]  and also denied her to make any legal arguments of any kind about her case.
[25:43.920 --> 25:46.920]  And the judge granted it.
[25:46.920 --> 25:55.920]  And that should get a mistrial. It should get criminal charges against the judge for denying you your right to refer a trial.
[25:55.920 --> 26:05.920]  And she'll get a grievance against the attorney for filing for this plea.
[26:05.920 --> 26:11.920]  In other words, Sandra, they're still being as crooked where you win as where they are everywhere else.
[26:11.920 --> 26:22.920]  Yeah, I think so. Because everything I had to ask for is, you know, he says we've already talked about it before we went to court
[26:22.920 --> 26:26.920]  and no, you can't bring those up.
[26:26.920 --> 26:27.920]  So...
[26:27.920 --> 26:29.920]  Who is we?
[26:29.920 --> 26:35.920]  The judge and the prosecutor and myself, you know, he already...
[26:35.920 --> 26:43.920]  Okay, I was going to say, if they did that without your presence and consent, they've got a whole nother problem.
[26:43.920 --> 26:48.920]  Yeah, when we went over my motions and stuff, and that's what he was considering.
[26:48.920 --> 26:54.920]  We've already discussed that and, you know, you can't bring it up.
[26:54.920 --> 27:00.920]  So I didn't. So I was found guilty and I did everything.
[27:00.920 --> 27:05.920]  But when you said... And when you said I...
[27:05.920 --> 27:17.920]  A while ago, when you were speaking with the other gentlemen, you said that after I received some information about my motion for new trial,
[27:17.920 --> 27:24.920]  then if they deny it, then I can go back and file an appeal.
[27:24.920 --> 27:30.920]  Yes, as soon as they deny your motion for new trial, then you can file your notice of appeal.
[27:30.920 --> 27:31.920]  Okay, well...
[27:31.920 --> 27:39.920]  Technically, they have up to 75 days. I can't find a time limit anywhere else in statute other than under the municipal court of record
[27:39.920 --> 27:42.920]  and the rules of appellate procedure.
[27:42.920 --> 27:47.920]  A motion for new trial has 75 days. They can sit on it and do nothing.
[27:47.920 --> 27:53.920]  On day 76, it's considered denied and you can immediately file your motion for appeal.
[27:53.920 --> 28:00.920]  Now, if there is a time limit less than that in these particular courts, somebody please, if you find it, let me know.
[28:00.920 --> 28:09.920]  But right now, the only definitive time limit I can find is in the appellate procedures and it says 75 days.
[28:09.920 --> 28:18.920]  Okay, and then what... Then after she said, you know, he wouldn't be back till November 30th because that's definitely over the 10 days of the appeal,
[28:18.920 --> 28:26.920]  she said, if I want to file an appeal, I have to do it within 10 days. She didn't say...
[28:26.920 --> 28:35.920]  10 days of the denial of the motion for new trial. If they deny you the appeal without ruling on the motion for new trial,
[28:35.920 --> 28:40.920]  they have definitely violated the rules of procedure and your right of due process.
[28:40.920 --> 28:52.920]  Okay, so you should file against the clerk. Well, hang on, Sandra, Randy's trying to say something, then you can pick that up again, please.
[28:52.920 --> 28:53.920]  Okay.
[28:53.920 --> 28:58.920]  You file against the clerk for giving you legal advice.
[28:58.920 --> 29:02.920]  Well, and she did say, I can't give you legal advice, but...
[29:02.920 --> 29:03.920]  But here it is anyway.
[29:03.920 --> 29:13.920]  But I'm going to give you legal advice that's all illegal. So this is not illegal advice, I'm just lying like a dog to you.
[29:13.920 --> 29:16.920]  You should file against her anyway.
[29:16.920 --> 29:23.920]  Yes, she basically told me that if I didn't file my appeal within 10 days, even if I haven't gotten an answer back from this motion,
[29:23.920 --> 29:27.920]  that I wouldn't be able to file an appeal.
[29:27.920 --> 29:33.920]  That's a deliberate act. That would be official oppression, 39 on 3 p.m. code.
[29:33.920 --> 29:34.920]  Okay.
[29:34.920 --> 29:38.920]  She gave you that false advice for the purpose of denying you a new right.
[29:38.920 --> 29:47.920]  So that kind of scared me when she said that, because she's already telling me it's going to be November 30th before the judge even comes back to the office.
[29:47.920 --> 29:57.920]  That was exactly the point I could try to deny you a new right to appeal. This is Randy Kelton.
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[32:18.920 --> 32:25.920]  Hi folks, we are back.
[32:25.920 --> 32:27.920]  This is Rule of Law Radio.
[32:27.920 --> 32:31.920]  Call it number is 512-646-1984.
[32:31.920 --> 32:34.920]  We have about an hour and a half left in the show.
[32:34.920 --> 32:37.920]  We are currently talking to Sandra in San Antonio.
[32:37.920 --> 32:39.920]  Sandra, I stand corrected.
[32:39.920 --> 32:45.920]  I just didn't read far enough, and my memory's kind of lapsing with all the writing I've been doing this past week on this stuff.
[32:45.920 --> 32:51.920]  But 45.038 new trial granted under the Code of Criminal Procedure.
[32:51.920 --> 32:58.920]  No later than the 10th day after the date that the judgment is entered, a justice or judge may, for good cause,
[32:58.920 --> 33:00.920]  shown grant the defendant a new trial.
[33:00.920 --> 33:06.920]  Whenever the justice or judge considers that justice has not been done, the defendant in the trial of the case.
[33:06.920 --> 33:12.920]  If a motion for a new trial is not granted before the 11th day after the date that the judgment is entered,
[33:12.920 --> 33:15.920]  the motion shall be considered denied.
[33:15.920 --> 33:17.920]  So, by the 11th day.
[33:17.920 --> 33:29.920]  So, the problem here is, is they appear to have set this up where the whole thing has to be done together.
[33:29.920 --> 33:38.920]  Article 45.042a, appeals from a justice or municipal court, including appeals from final judgments and bond forwarders,
[33:38.920 --> 33:43.920]  shall be heard by the county court, accepting cases where the county court has no jurisdiction,
[33:43.920 --> 33:47.920]  in which counties such appeals shall be heard by the proper court.
[33:47.920 --> 33:55.920]  Unless the appeal is taken from a municipal court of record, and the appeal is based on error reflected in the record, the trial shall be de novo.
[33:55.920 --> 34:06.920]  Now, if we go down to 45.0425, appeal bond, it tells you that the appeal bond must be taken blah, blah, blah.
[34:06.920 --> 34:20.920]  45.0426, filing bond, perfects appeal, this appears to make it where both the appeal bond and the actual new trial motion
[34:20.920 --> 34:24.920]  have to be filed simultaneously in these cases only.
[34:24.920 --> 34:29.920]  Because here, subsection A of 45.0426 reads,
[34:29.920 --> 34:37.920]  When the appeal bond has been filed with a justice or judge who tried the case not later than the 10th day after the date the judgment was entered,
[34:37.920 --> 34:40.920]  the appeal in such case shall be held to be perfected.
[34:40.920 --> 34:51.920]  If an appeal bond is not timely, the appellate court does not have jurisdiction over the case, and shall remand the case to the justice or municipal court for execution of the sentence.
[34:51.920 --> 34:57.920]  An appeal may not be dismissed because the defendant failed to give notice of appeal in open court.
[34:57.920 --> 35:03.920]  An appeal by the defendant or the state may not be dismissed on account of any defect in the transcript.
[35:03.920 --> 35:09.920]  So, then you go to 45.043, effective appeal.
[35:09.920 --> 35:18.920]  When a defendant files the appeal bond required by law with the justice or municipal court, all further proceedings in the case in the justice or municipal court shall cease.
[35:18.920 --> 35:32.920]  So, this statute is making it look like in these particular types of fine only cases, the appeal bond and the motion for new trial run within the same 10 days.
[35:32.920 --> 35:38.920]  The problem here is that you don't know whether or not they're going to grant you a new trial.
[35:38.920 --> 35:43.920]  You have to file your notice of appeal and you have to cough up your money in order to get your appeal.
[35:43.920 --> 35:50.920]  Or you have to put in a surety bond for the appeal.
[35:50.920 --> 35:53.920]  Okay, and a surety bond is...
[35:53.920 --> 35:59.920]  A surety bond is when you have two people that are willing to sign for the amount of the appeal bond.
[35:59.920 --> 36:02.920]  No, no, no, no, hold on, hold on.
[36:02.920 --> 36:11.920]  A surety bond at 17.02, code of code of procedure, is written undertaking between the accused and the state.
[36:11.920 --> 36:26.920]  It does not require more than one security if you have sufficient property whose unencumbered value is in excess of double the value of any potential fine.
[36:26.920 --> 36:29.920]  You can sign a surety yourself.
[36:29.920 --> 36:33.920]  If you can't do that, then you can get someone else to sign a surety.
[36:33.920 --> 36:41.920]  Or in lieu of having someone sign a surety, you can post monies of the United States.
[36:41.920 --> 36:47.920]  That's what 17.02 code of procedure goes to.
[36:47.920 --> 36:56.920]  It doesn't say anything about the judge being authorized to assess a fee.
[36:56.920 --> 36:58.920]  Don't worry, I'm sticking to it.
[36:58.920 --> 37:04.920]  Let me set you something here to hear about, Randy, and you can tell me what you think about this.
[37:04.920 --> 37:09.920]  This is the appeal bond under 45.0425.
[37:09.920 --> 37:17.920]  Subsection A, if the court from whose judgment and sentence the appeal is taken is in session, the court must approve the bail.
[37:17.920 --> 37:26.920]  The amount of a bail bond may not be less than two times the amount of the fine and cost of judge against a defendant payable to the state of Texas.
[37:26.920 --> 37:30.920]  The bail may not in any case be for some less than $50.
[37:30.920 --> 37:46.920]  If the appeal bond otherwise meets the requirement of this code, the court without requiring a court appearance by the defendant shall approve the appeal bond in the amount the court under article 27.14b notified the defendant would be approved.
[37:46.920 --> 38:00.920]  Subsection B, an appeal bond shall recite that in the cause the defendant was convicted and has appealed and be conditioned that the defendant shall make the defendant's personal appearance before the court to which the appeal bond is taken in standard.
[38:00.920 --> 38:14.920]  If the court is in session or if the court is not in session at its next regular term, stating the time and place of that session and there remain from day to day in term to term and answering the cause in the court.
[38:14.920 --> 38:21.920]  Now, that very clearly says bail bond in 1702 and it defines a bail bond.
[38:21.920 --> 38:24.920]  Right.
[38:24.920 --> 38:36.920]  All right, Sandra, so given that you should be able to use a surety bond and there shouldn't be anything they can do about it, if they deny you in that right, then there's a good chance they're going to have a serious problem later.
[38:36.920 --> 38:40.920]  Okay.
[38:40.920 --> 38:44.920]  And then I shouldn't have to come up with all this.
[38:44.920 --> 38:46.920]  Yes, it's a surety bond.
[38:46.920 --> 38:53.920]  Yeah, look on jurisimprudence.com in the documents and research blank section.
[38:53.920 --> 38:56.920]  I have a surety bond in there, the blank one.
[38:56.920 --> 38:57.920]  Jared.
[38:57.920 --> 38:58.920]  And it's right out of the code.
[38:58.920 --> 39:01.920]  Jurisimprudence.
[39:01.920 --> 39:12.920]  Yes, Jurisimprudence.com.
[39:12.920 --> 39:17.920]  Okay, I can do that.
[39:17.920 --> 39:19.920]  All right, I'll do that.
[39:19.920 --> 39:20.920]  Okay.
[39:20.920 --> 39:23.920]  And then I'll probably see you Sunday.
[39:23.920 --> 39:24.920]  All right, Sandra.
[39:24.920 --> 39:25.920]  Thanks for calling in.
[39:25.920 --> 39:26.920]  We appreciate it.
[39:26.920 --> 39:27.920]  Okay.
[39:27.920 --> 39:28.920]  Thank you.
[39:28.920 --> 39:29.920]  Have a great evening.
[39:29.920 --> 39:30.920]  You're welcome.
[39:30.920 --> 39:33.920]  Okay, let's go to our next caller.
[39:33.920 --> 39:38.920]  By the way, folks calling number is 512-646-1984.
[39:38.920 --> 39:41.920]  So give us a call if you have a question or query.
[39:41.920 --> 39:46.920]  Right now we're going to the individual from area code 620.
[39:46.920 --> 39:48.920]  Are you there?
[39:48.920 --> 39:50.920]  Hello, how are we doing, Eddie?
[39:50.920 --> 39:51.920]  Doing fine.
[39:51.920 --> 39:52.920]  How are you?
[39:52.920 --> 39:55.920]  Can I get your first name and the state you're calling from, please?
[39:55.920 --> 39:57.920]  This is Jerry out of Kansas.
[39:57.920 --> 39:58.920]  Hi, Jerry.
[39:58.920 --> 39:59.920]  What can we do for you?
[39:59.920 --> 40:01.920]  Well, I just had a question.
[40:01.920 --> 40:10.920]  Back on 923 of this year, you guys had a departmentator on for a four hour Friday evening barn burn.
[40:10.920 --> 40:11.920]  Right.
[40:11.920 --> 40:17.920]  And he was talking a little bit about the gold and silver and the money issue.
[40:17.920 --> 40:23.920]  And myself, I've chosen, you know, Reagan Davis, Gold and Silver back in 86.
[40:23.920 --> 40:34.920]  And I do some private contracting where I would accept silver or gold, but he had mentioned something in there about and preferably silver.
[40:34.920 --> 40:42.920]  And I was just wondering what the thoughts were on accepting silver rather than gold.
[40:42.920 --> 40:46.920]  Why you may be, there may be an issue with the gold.
[40:46.920 --> 40:56.920]  Well, it's not so much an issue as the fact that the silver is being eaten away at as far as the supply goes versus the gold.
[40:56.920 --> 41:00.920]  The silver is used in industrial applications.
[41:00.920 --> 41:07.920]  And in some cases, those industrial applications actually destroy the silver in the process, which means it's gone.
[41:07.920 --> 41:09.920]  There's nothing to replenish it.
[41:09.920 --> 41:22.920]  So the supply may come to the point where the silver may actually be worth more than the gold itself before too long, simply because of the supply and demand issue.
[41:22.920 --> 41:33.920]  But at the moment, there is also the question of whether or not silver is to be recognized as a monetary system that's acceptable to the powers that be versus gold.
[41:33.920 --> 41:39.920]  We know gold is, but we're not so sure that they're still operating on a money or we know they're not.
[41:39.920 --> 41:49.920]  But if they would willingly operate on a money standard that involves silver versus gold, even though that's always originally in effect.
[41:49.920 --> 41:56.920]  Yeah, back when it actually denoted that silver or so many grains of silver was a dollar.
[41:56.920 --> 41:59.920]  Right.
[41:59.920 --> 42:06.920]  And I didn't know, you know, with exception, the reason I do it is when I do my private contract.
[42:06.920 --> 42:14.920]  Normally, in my day job, I'm a commercial truck driver, but I've worked a lot of years working on farm equipment too.
[42:14.920 --> 42:22.920]  And when I do the farm equipment, the only thing I will accept is property for my labor.
[42:22.920 --> 42:23.920]  Right.
[42:23.920 --> 42:24.920]  I didn't know if they were my...
[42:24.920 --> 42:25.920]  So you do barter.
[42:25.920 --> 42:27.920]  Excuse me?
[42:27.920 --> 42:29.920]  Do you barter?
[42:29.920 --> 42:30.920]  Yes.
[42:30.920 --> 42:35.920]  Well, I accept dollars because I still have a social security number, so I'll still have to pay.
[42:35.920 --> 42:38.920]  I'll still have to report it.
[42:38.920 --> 42:39.920]  You know.
[42:39.920 --> 42:43.920]  I have a question for you since you're a truck driver.
[42:43.920 --> 42:44.920]  Sure.
[42:44.920 --> 42:49.920]  Did you hear the one about the college professor, what was going to bury the pollock?
[42:49.920 --> 42:50.920]  No, I haven't.
[42:50.920 --> 42:51.920]  Randy, what is that?
[42:51.920 --> 43:00.920]  Oh, he felt bad because he was so much smarter than she was, so he went to a neurosurgeon to see if he could have half his brain taken out.
[43:00.920 --> 43:04.920]  And the surgeon told him, we could have that after he'd done it.
[43:04.920 --> 43:05.920]  He woke up, covered the room.
[43:05.920 --> 43:07.920]  The surgeon come to him and said, look, I'm sorry.
[43:07.920 --> 43:09.920]  It seems I had a hangover.
[43:09.920 --> 43:13.920]  And the accident, you took out three quarters of your brain.
[43:13.920 --> 43:20.920]  And that college professor looked him right now and said, ten-four, good buddy.
[43:20.920 --> 43:21.920]  Ta-da.
[43:21.920 --> 43:22.920]  Okay.
[43:22.920 --> 43:26.920]  I couldn't help myself.
[43:26.920 --> 43:31.920]  You want his address?
[43:31.920 --> 43:36.920]  If you come to gun range.
[43:36.920 --> 43:42.920]  I like it when you guys have to, when we talk about status, I guess, too.
[43:42.920 --> 43:44.920]  All right, well, hang in there.
[43:44.920 --> 43:46.920]  We'll be right back on the other side of the break.
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[45:00.920 --> 45:04.920]  The Oklahoma City bombing, top 10 reasons to question the official story.
[45:04.920 --> 45:08.920]  Reason number one, John Doe number two, and other accomplices.
[45:08.920 --> 45:13.920]  On the day of the bombing, nearly all of the witnesses that saw Tim McVeigh and the Ryder truck
[45:13.920 --> 45:16.920]  report that he was accompanied by other perpetrators.
[45:16.920 --> 45:20.920]  The FBI and federal prosecutors insist that Tim McVeigh alone
[45:20.920 --> 45:24.920]  delivered the Ryder truck bomb to the Murrah building and detonated it.
[45:24.920 --> 45:28.920]  The only witness the government produced to place McVeigh at the building that morning,
[45:28.920 --> 45:32.920]  Dana Bradley, who lost her children and one of her legs in the bombing,
[45:32.920 --> 45:38.920]  testified that she saw McVeigh with another man, the faithful John Doe number two, exiting the Ryder truck.
[45:38.920 --> 45:43.920]  While at least 15 other witnesses claim to have seen McVeigh with other perpetrators the day of the bombing,
[45:43.920 --> 45:50.920]  no less than 226 witnesses placed him with other men in the days before the bombing,
[45:50.920 --> 45:56.920]  including when he rented the Ryder truck, and in some cases, have positively identified the other perpetrators.
[45:56.920 --> 46:02.920]  For more information, please visit okcbombingtruth.com.
[46:26.920 --> 46:33.920]  All right folks, we are back. This is rule of law radio.
[46:33.920 --> 46:37.920]  Calling number is 512-646-1984.
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[46:59.920 --> 47:01.920]  Okay, let's go ahead and finish up.
[47:01.920 --> 47:03.920]  All right, sir, go ahead.
[47:03.920 --> 47:06.920]  The only other question I had, dealing in barter like that,
[47:06.920 --> 47:15.920]  and I'm under the assumption that a dollar is a dollar whether it's printed on a banknote or a piece of metal.
[47:15.920 --> 47:22.920]  On a tax issue, would they come back and try to do fair market value?
[47:22.920 --> 47:28.920]  Yeah, they've tried that before with people that are getting paid in gold coin,
[47:28.920 --> 47:32.920]  but then the federal court ruled against them and said money is money,
[47:32.920 --> 47:35.920]  and the face value is all that matters.
[47:35.920 --> 47:37.920]  Okay, that's...
[47:37.920 --> 47:40.920]  If it's coined by the US Mint...
[47:40.920 --> 47:42.920]  Yeah, that's a good idea.
[47:42.920 --> 47:48.920]  Technically, the argument is that the IRS can tax dollars.
[47:48.920 --> 47:52.920]  They can't tax barter because that's trade.
[47:52.920 --> 47:54.920]  So it's technically not profit.
[47:54.920 --> 47:56.920]  They try to tax it anyway.
[47:56.920 --> 48:01.920]  You know, any way you try to beat taxes or feds, the IRS,
[48:01.920 --> 48:04.920]  they're going to come back and try to beat you.
[48:04.920 --> 48:10.920]  So if you want to use that as a way to avoid taxes,
[48:10.920 --> 48:17.920]  and avoiding taxes is perfectly legal, then be ready for a fight.
[48:17.920 --> 48:21.920]  Yeah, yeah, and know how to defend.
[48:21.920 --> 48:24.920]  Know you're pleading.
[48:24.920 --> 48:26.920]  Precisely.
[48:26.920 --> 48:30.920]  Yeah, and that was my main concern, you know.
[48:30.920 --> 48:33.920]  It's not illegal to owe the government money.
[48:33.920 --> 48:35.920]  It's illegal to try to beat them out of it.
[48:35.920 --> 48:37.920]  That's what did you put, jail.
[48:37.920 --> 48:42.920]  Well, no, you can beat them out of it as far as the avoiding the payment of taxes
[48:42.920 --> 48:47.920]  is the question of whether or not you owe the taxes and try to beat them out of it.
[48:47.920 --> 48:51.920]  There's nothing illegal about lessening your tax liability.
[48:51.920 --> 48:54.920]  Absolutely nothing illegal about it.
[48:54.920 --> 48:59.920]  The illegality is if you rightfully owe the taxes and won't pay it.
[48:59.920 --> 49:01.920]  That's right, that's right.
[49:01.920 --> 49:03.920]  You can avoid nutty bade.
[49:03.920 --> 49:10.920]  Yeah, that's why on my private contract, that's why I would accept the U.S. coin.
[49:10.920 --> 49:18.920]  Because, you know, it's purchasing powers a lot more than the Federal Reserve.
[49:18.920 --> 49:25.920]  Yeah, you can price it in silver coin.
[49:25.920 --> 49:27.920]  Yeah, that's what I'd do with ice.
[49:27.920 --> 49:30.920]  Price it less.
[49:30.920 --> 49:34.920]  And that's the one that the Fed's lost in Arizona.
[49:34.920 --> 49:37.920]  The guy was paying in gold coin.
[49:37.920 --> 49:42.920]  And the Fed tried to assess the weight of the species in the Fed.
[49:42.920 --> 49:44.920]  The government said no.
[49:44.920 --> 49:47.920]  The United States net coined that.
[49:47.920 --> 49:49.920]  It's coin.
[49:49.920 --> 49:52.920]  It stays at its value.
[49:52.920 --> 49:58.920]  Yeah, yeah, but where I make enough to report through my day job,
[49:58.920 --> 50:03.920]  you know, I'll have to report the face value at least.
[50:03.920 --> 50:05.920]  Okay, a little trick.
[50:05.920 --> 50:11.920]  I used to have a very good accountant and he wouldn't take a home office expense
[50:11.920 --> 50:15.920]  and he wouldn't take uniform expense.
[50:15.920 --> 50:19.920]  He said those will get you audited.
[50:19.920 --> 50:25.920]  And he always calculated the tax and paid a little bit more.
[50:25.920 --> 50:28.920]  Yeah, yeah, just to be on the safe side.
[50:28.920 --> 50:32.920]  No, he said if you pay a little bit more, they'll never audit you
[50:32.920 --> 50:37.920]  because they're afraid to have to give you back.
[50:37.920 --> 50:40.920]  Yeah, and he's paid like 25, 30 bucks extra.
[50:40.920 --> 50:42.920]  Yeah.
[50:42.920 --> 50:45.920]  And he was right, I've never been audited.
[50:45.920 --> 50:48.920]  Yeah, we'll see at least transportation.
[50:48.920 --> 50:55.920]  Ask your accountant, not what can I take as a deduction?
[50:55.920 --> 50:57.920]  What will get me audited?
[50:57.920 --> 50:59.920]  Well, I'm my accountant.
[50:59.920 --> 51:01.920]  That's a lot more important.
[51:01.920 --> 51:03.920]  I'm my accountant.
[51:03.920 --> 51:08.920]  But in the transportation industry, we get to do per damn on the nights we're out.
[51:08.920 --> 51:12.920]  So what I always do is I make sure I don't claim all them days.
[51:12.920 --> 51:16.920]  That way, if they ever come back to audit me, there's more there.
[51:16.920 --> 51:18.920]  They would have to pay me back.
[51:18.920 --> 51:20.920]  Good, good.
[51:20.920 --> 51:22.920]  They'll do that once and then they'll say,
[51:22.920 --> 51:24.920]  leave this guy alone, he's setting you up.
[51:24.920 --> 51:26.920]  So that's good.
[51:26.920 --> 51:28.920]  Well, that's the only question.
[51:28.920 --> 51:30.920]  Wait a minute, you're a smart truck driver.
[51:30.920 --> 51:32.920]  I thought that was a contradiction of terms.
[51:32.920 --> 51:36.920]  Well, you know, I haven't always been a truck driver.
[51:36.920 --> 51:38.920]  Oh, okay.
[51:38.920 --> 51:40.920]  You know, it's diesel fumes.
[51:40.920 --> 51:45.920]  Diesel fumes cause deadheading.
[51:45.920 --> 51:47.920]  Uh-huh.
[51:47.920 --> 51:49.920]  Okay, enough truck driver jokes.
[51:49.920 --> 51:53.920]  I gotta get my nose out of that stack.
[51:53.920 --> 51:56.920]  Now, that being said, consider this.
[51:56.920 --> 52:03.920]  You actually drive a truck, Randy could only wash them.
[52:03.920 --> 52:05.920]  I could do that though.
[52:05.920 --> 52:06.920]  Yeah.
[52:06.920 --> 52:10.920]  Well, I know how deep I'm down the rabbit hole as far as my status is
[52:10.920 --> 52:13.920]  and where I stand as far as being an individual.
[52:13.920 --> 52:18.920]  I got the status of employee and my goal is to get the status
[52:18.920 --> 52:21.920]  of being an individual and I don't want to affect trade,
[52:21.920 --> 52:24.920]  commerce, or business and have a private business
[52:24.920 --> 52:35.920]  and just deal on private contract eventually.
[52:35.920 --> 52:39.920]  In this culture that's hard to do, it gets harder every day.
[52:39.920 --> 52:44.920]  Yeah, if you look back at how we got into this situation
[52:44.920 --> 52:50.920]  and what we're in now back to 1913 when they put the Fed in
[52:50.920 --> 52:53.920]  and how our law started changing into Admiralty law
[52:53.920 --> 52:58.920]  and everything we do is it took more and more property out of that note
[52:58.920 --> 53:02.920]  that we're using now.
[53:02.920 --> 53:06.920]  Everyone wants to, you know, we got all the stuff happening on Wall Street
[53:06.920 --> 53:10.920]  and stuff like that now which it's nice that people eyes are starting to get open
[53:10.920 --> 53:17.920]  but I'm afraid they still haven't reached the right conclusion.
[53:17.920 --> 53:20.920]  Well, I don't think everybody will ever reach the right conclusions.
[53:20.920 --> 53:25.920]  We're always going to be in this state of flux
[53:25.920 --> 53:32.920]  where the haves and the have-nots push back and forth across each other.
[53:32.920 --> 53:37.920]  You know, when times get bad, those of us who aren't in control of all the money
[53:37.920 --> 53:41.920]  get upset and annoyed and we make adjustments.
[53:41.920 --> 53:45.920]  But when things are doing good, we sit back and take it easy
[53:45.920 --> 53:49.920]  and let those guys who are aggressive and have need of more money
[53:49.920 --> 53:52.920]  take all of our money.
[53:52.920 --> 53:55.920]  It's always been this way.
[53:55.920 --> 53:59.920]  It's always going to be this way.
[53:59.920 --> 54:06.920]  In spite of the guys screaming doom and gloom, this is how it's always worked.
[54:06.920 --> 54:12.920]  Every 15 years, since records have been kept, there has been an economic upheaval.
[54:12.920 --> 54:17.920]  Every 50 years, like clockwork, that then things settle out
[54:17.920 --> 54:22.920]  and we go back through a period of good times and then we have another upheaval.
[54:22.920 --> 54:26.920]  This is not the end of the world, this is just the standard stuff
[54:26.920 --> 54:33.920]  and what we need to do is understand the ebb and flow
[54:33.920 --> 54:42.920]  and try to position ourselves so that we take advantage of what's going on around us.
[54:42.920 --> 54:47.920]  Right now, sell your property, get out a dollar in a dominated assets,
[54:47.920 --> 54:53.920]  get into something hard, gold, silver, machinery.
[54:53.920 --> 54:58.920]  Right now, all these companies have got put out of business, especially construction.
[54:58.920 --> 55:03.920]  You've got all this equipment laying around all over, selling it all over the world, China and everywhere else.
[55:03.920 --> 55:07.920]  Buy a bunch of that, store it, because in two, three years,
[55:07.920 --> 55:11.920]  the construction industry is going to turn around big time.
[55:11.920 --> 55:15.920]  All of this stuff will be worth more than gold and silver.
[55:15.920 --> 55:18.920]  So there's a lot of places to put ourselves.
[55:18.920 --> 55:23.920]  If you're in property, get out of it, rent for a couple of years,
[55:23.920 --> 55:26.920]  take that money you had, put it in something hard.
[55:26.920 --> 55:30.920]  In a couple of years, when the prices have bottomed out and they start back up again,
[55:30.920 --> 55:32.920]  jump in there and buy.
[55:32.920 --> 55:37.920]  It's not bad times, it's the only times changing.
[55:37.920 --> 55:44.920]  Well, what I've been doing lately is just practicing all the trials with the gold and silver.
[55:44.920 --> 55:50.920]  You know, practicing the...
[55:50.920 --> 55:55.920]  Gold and silver is a great investment right now, but it may not stay that way.
[55:55.920 --> 56:01.920]  Look at Las Vegas right now, you could buy property for 25 cents on a dollar.
[56:01.920 --> 56:07.920]  But in another three years, that's going to start climbing back up again.
[56:07.920 --> 56:13.920]  And when it starts climbing back up, that's a really good time to jump in there and purchase what you can.
[56:13.920 --> 56:19.920]  It's likely for two or three to five years afterward,
[56:19.920 --> 56:24.920]  rise quickly and try to come back up where it should be.
[56:24.920 --> 56:28.920]  So that's a good time to be back in property.
[56:28.920 --> 56:34.920]  So it's not that we're having such bad times that things are so difficult, it's just changing.
[56:34.920 --> 56:42.920]  And trying to opt out of the system, that's not a very viable option either
[56:42.920 --> 56:47.920]  because the system is here no matter what we want.
[56:47.920 --> 56:54.920]  Best thing we can do is to get our notes.
[56:54.920 --> 56:57.920]  We are moving out of...
[56:57.920 --> 57:03.920]  We're going to wind up with a ledger system, in any case, because of the technology.
[57:03.920 --> 57:11.920]  And I talked to Capital Gold William about setting me up a ledger.
[57:11.920 --> 57:26.920]  And I have a business and I probably touched about 2% of all of the dollars that went through my business.
[57:26.920 --> 57:29.920]  The rest of it were just marks on a ledger.
[57:29.920 --> 57:35.920]  I had marks on the ledger come in and then I sent some out and they put a mark on the ledger and it went out.
[57:35.920 --> 57:38.920]  I never seen it, saw it, I never touched it.
[57:38.920 --> 57:47.920]  I wanted the guy to come up and set me up an account where people would pay me by putting silver in my ledger.
[57:47.920 --> 57:59.920]  Now they didn't have to actually have the physical silver, just store my value in terms of silver species.
[57:59.920 --> 58:09.920]  Now if I needed green dollars, I'd take that silver and have it turned it into green dollars at the current rate for the amount that I needed.
[58:09.920 --> 58:13.920]  But I used silver to preserve my value.
[58:13.920 --> 58:18.920]  It also helps with the number of dollars they paid me.
[58:18.920 --> 58:22.920]  Silver is going to be argued with the tax on all the dollars on board.
[58:22.920 --> 58:25.920]  Okay, do you have any more for us on the other side?
[58:25.920 --> 58:28.920]  No, no. Thank you. Thank you for what you did.
[58:28.920 --> 58:32.920]  Thank you very much. This is Randy Kelton, Debra Stephens and Craig.
[58:32.920 --> 58:39.920]  We'll go on radio. Our calling number is 512-646-1984.
[58:39.920 --> 58:44.920]  Give us a call. Ask any some hard questions.
[58:44.920 --> 58:49.920]  But not me. I'm old. I need to be nice to you.
[58:49.920 --> 58:59.920]  This is Randy Kelton. We'll be right back.
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[01:00:03.920 --> 01:00:08.920]  The Inter-American Commission on Human Rights Thursday criticized the arrest and assault of journalists
[01:00:08.920 --> 01:00:12.920]  during Occupy Wall Street protests in New York and other U.S. cities.
[01:00:12.920 --> 01:00:19.920]  The Commission called for authorities to guarantee and protect the practice of journalism at public demonstrations.
[01:00:19.920 --> 01:00:26.920]  Three journalists covering the Occupy movement have been assaulted by police since October and dozens have been arrested.
[01:00:26.920 --> 01:00:34.920]  The U.S. Army's hypersonic weapon prototype flew its maiden test flight Thursday at 3,800 miles per hour,
[01:00:34.920 --> 01:00:41.920]  five times the speed of sound paving the way for the capability to strike targets anywhere on Earth in an hour.
[01:00:41.920 --> 01:00:51.920]  An unmanned aircraft that can travel at 20 times the speed of sound will take off from an Air Force base in California for a test flight Wednesday.
[01:00:51.920 --> 01:00:58.920]  Republican presidential candidates Mitt Romney and Herman Cain Thursday denounced the Occupy Wall Street movement
[01:00:58.920 --> 01:01:04.920]  as it celebrated its second month anniversary with protests in cities across the country.
[01:01:04.920 --> 01:01:12.920]  The scandal-mild Cain accused protesters of trying to destroy the greatest nation in the world after disrupting morning commuters.
[01:01:12.920 --> 01:01:16.920]  Romney saluted the recent spate of crackdowns on the Occupy movement.
[01:01:16.920 --> 01:01:24.920]  With the presidential election campaign underway, Barack Obama has expressed empathy with the Occupy Wall Street movement,
[01:01:24.920 --> 01:01:32.920]  yet federal agencies answering directly to the president coordinated the nationwide crackdowns on Occupy camps behind the scenes.
[01:01:32.920 --> 01:01:38.920]  Obama's reaction to the New York Police Department's raid of Zuccotti Park on Tuesday was, quote,
[01:01:38.920 --> 01:01:44.920]  every municipality has to make its own decision on how to balance free speech and the concerns of the community.
[01:01:44.920 --> 01:01:52.920]  But Rick Ellis of theexaminer.com cited the Justice Department official as saying the recent nationwide evictions of Occupy camps,
[01:01:52.920 --> 01:02:00.920]  including Salt Lake City, Denver, Portland, Oakland and New York, were, quote, coordinated with the help of Homeland Security,
[01:02:00.920 --> 01:02:03.920]  the FBI and other federal police agencies.
[01:02:03.920 --> 01:02:07.920]  Even though the decision to evict protesters rested with local authorities,
[01:02:07.920 --> 01:02:13.920]  police departments, quote, received tactical and planning advice from national agencies.
[01:02:13.920 --> 01:02:20.920]  Palestinian officials denied Thursday reports claiming they were willing to freeze their statehood bid at the UN
[01:02:20.920 --> 01:02:24.920]  if Israel handed over tax collection funds it had withheld.
[01:02:24.920 --> 01:02:29.920]  A European diplomat said Wednesday the PA had offered to freeze all mo-
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[01:03:53.920 --> 01:03:57.920]  Okay, we're going to go ahead and go to Harold.
[01:03:57.920 --> 01:04:00.920]  Alright Harold, what can we do for you?
[01:04:00.920 --> 01:04:07.920]  I have a question about property taxes.
[01:04:07.920 --> 01:04:08.920]  Okay.
[01:04:08.920 --> 01:04:20.920]  I'm curious, justifications for property taxes, what can you do to, you know, maybe stop that kind of stuff.
[01:04:20.920 --> 01:04:25.920]  It sounds to me like it's a contract.
[01:04:25.920 --> 01:04:29.920]  And, you know, I don't know, give me some answers.
[01:04:29.920 --> 01:04:39.920]  Well, you want an answer that doesn't really exist other than what we've seen work part of the time and not work part of the time.
[01:04:39.920 --> 01:04:45.920]  And the reason for that once again is what the courts are or are not doing in relation to law.
[01:04:45.920 --> 01:04:54.920]  Technically speaking, if you can be charged a tax on a piece of property and the property be taken for failure to pay the tax, you don't own the property.
[01:04:54.920 --> 01:05:00.920]  Well, you know, obviously that's my misconception.
[01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:05.920]  My house, I have paid for, my house is paid for.
[01:05:05.920 --> 01:05:07.920]  I don't have a mortgage.
[01:05:07.920 --> 01:05:10.920]  I don't have anything like that, but...
[01:05:10.920 --> 01:05:11.920]  Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
[01:05:11.920 --> 01:05:13.920]  You say the house is paid for.
[01:05:13.920 --> 01:05:15.920]  How did you pay for it?
[01:05:15.920 --> 01:05:26.920]  At a point, a couple of years back, we were inundated with, oh, you've got to buy flood insurance.
[01:05:26.920 --> 01:05:34.920]  I live in southwest Texas, okay, outside the 500-year floodplain.
[01:05:34.920 --> 01:05:36.920]  Wait, wait, wait, wait, Harold, not my question.
[01:05:36.920 --> 01:05:44.920]  My question is, how did you pay for your house?
[01:05:44.920 --> 01:05:53.920]  My mother borrowed the money against her CD to pay the balance of the house off.
[01:05:53.920 --> 01:05:56.920]  Borrowed what money?
[01:05:56.920 --> 01:05:58.920]  Pardon me?
[01:05:58.920 --> 01:06:01.920]  Borrowed what kind of money?
[01:06:01.920 --> 01:06:06.920]  She had a CD that was...
[01:06:06.920 --> 01:06:09.920]  Okay, you kind of missed my point, but let me fill you in here.
[01:06:09.920 --> 01:06:14.920]  You paid for your house with FRNs, right? Federal Reserve Notes.
[01:06:14.920 --> 01:06:16.920]  Oh, well, yeah, apparently.
[01:06:16.920 --> 01:06:19.920]  Well, you know, no bank transfers, whatever the case may be.
[01:06:19.920 --> 01:06:21.920]  I mean, we went to the bank.
[01:06:21.920 --> 01:06:25.920]  The bank said, okay, you have a CD that's worth $75,000.
[01:06:25.920 --> 01:06:28.920]  You owe $35,000 on the house.
[01:06:28.920 --> 01:06:34.920]  We will give you a loan for the $35,000 against...
[01:06:34.920 --> 01:06:36.920]  Okay, again, not relevant.
[01:06:36.920 --> 01:06:38.920]  Not relevant to the point here.
[01:06:38.920 --> 01:06:43.920]  The point here simply being that what is a Federal Reserve Note?
[01:06:43.920 --> 01:06:47.920]  A note by definition is a debt instrument.
[01:06:47.920 --> 01:06:49.920]  It's not a paying instrument.
[01:06:49.920 --> 01:06:51.920]  It's a debt instrument.
[01:06:51.920 --> 01:06:56.920]  It's one that signifies the existence of a debt.
[01:06:56.920 --> 01:07:01.920]  You cannot settle a debt with another debt.
[01:07:01.920 --> 01:07:03.920]  That's the implication of using the funding money.
[01:07:03.920 --> 01:07:08.920]  That's why I'm asking, how did you pay for your house?
[01:07:08.920 --> 01:07:14.920]  Now, the other issue here is, what does your deed say you are?
[01:07:14.920 --> 01:07:18.920]  Most of the deeds in Texas, if you'll read them real careful,
[01:07:18.920 --> 01:07:23.920]  you're identified as the tenant, not the owner.
[01:07:23.920 --> 01:07:31.920]  I mean, I don't know that I have a warranty of deed.
[01:07:31.920 --> 01:07:34.920]  What is a warranty, Harold?
[01:07:34.920 --> 01:07:37.920]  A warranty deed. That's what everybody gets a warranty deed.
[01:07:37.920 --> 01:07:38.920]  Right.
[01:07:38.920 --> 01:07:44.920]  That means he is the legal owner of the property.
[01:07:44.920 --> 01:07:48.920]  Okay, well, but the terminology is what's important when you get down to this.
[01:07:48.920 --> 01:07:50.920]  So you need to pay attention here a little bit.
[01:07:50.920 --> 01:07:56.920]  A warranty deed makes you the legal owner, not the equity owner.
[01:07:56.920 --> 01:08:01.920]  And I've given the definition of a legal owner on this show many times.
[01:08:01.920 --> 01:08:07.920]  A legal owner is one that has all the appearance of ownership,
[01:08:07.920 --> 01:08:12.920]  but none of the actual rights, including disposition of the property.
[01:08:12.920 --> 01:08:20.920]  And that's why I still owe them property taxes, obviously.
[01:08:20.920 --> 01:08:22.920]  Very good.
[01:08:22.920 --> 01:08:33.920]  They have their way around the fact that I don't owe a mortgage on this house to anybody.
[01:08:33.920 --> 01:08:35.920]  But you don't own it, either.
[01:08:35.920 --> 01:08:36.920]  Well, I don't own it.
[01:08:36.920 --> 01:08:38.920]  Yeah, I don't own it.
[01:08:38.920 --> 01:08:41.920]  I need to know how well it needs to be.
[01:08:41.920 --> 01:08:47.920]  I need to know how can I own the house that I have paid for.
[01:08:47.920 --> 01:08:53.920]  There are two ways that you can do it, probably both used in conjunction would be better.
[01:08:53.920 --> 01:08:59.920]  One is to get a land patent for the land on which the house sits.
[01:08:59.920 --> 01:09:01.920]  Okay.
[01:09:01.920 --> 01:09:09.920]  The second is, is once you have that patent, go to a court and have a judge declare the patent private property,
[01:09:09.920 --> 01:09:12.920]  which it should be when you get the patent anyway.
[01:09:12.920 --> 01:09:22.920]  But now you've got a court order from a judge that declares it to be private property rather than real property.
[01:09:22.920 --> 01:09:23.920]  Right.
[01:09:23.920 --> 01:09:24.920]  Right.
[01:09:24.920 --> 01:09:25.920]  I understand.
[01:09:25.920 --> 01:09:26.920]  There's a difference in the terms.
[01:09:26.920 --> 01:09:27.920]  I understand.
[01:09:27.920 --> 01:09:28.920]  That's right.
[01:09:28.920 --> 01:09:30.920]  And from the research I've done, here's what that is.
[01:09:30.920 --> 01:09:34.920]  Private property is property that is truly owned by someone.
[01:09:34.920 --> 01:09:39.920]  That someone cannot be taxed on property they truly own.
[01:09:39.920 --> 01:09:46.920]  Real property by definition is property that is used to generate gain or profit for someone else,
[01:09:46.920 --> 01:09:51.920]  usually meaning corporate owned property.
[01:09:51.920 --> 01:09:55.920]  You understand the difference here?
[01:09:55.920 --> 01:09:57.920]  Somewhat, yes I do.
[01:09:57.920 --> 01:10:05.920]  But when you talk about corporate, is that not something subject to contract?
[01:10:05.920 --> 01:10:06.920]  Not necessarily.
[01:10:06.920 --> 01:10:12.920]  A corporation doesn't have to have a contract in order to own property.
[01:10:12.920 --> 01:10:15.920]  It can simply have property.
[01:10:15.920 --> 01:10:24.920]  But every piece of property owned by a corporation is presumed to be used for the purpose of generating profit for said corporation,
[01:10:24.920 --> 01:10:28.920]  which brings us to the issue of personal property.
[01:10:28.920 --> 01:10:37.920]  Not just the real property itself, but the personal property such as chairs, desks, potted plants.
[01:10:37.920 --> 01:10:48.920]  Whatever is in the corporation's ownership capacity, that is not an actual building or piece of land.
[01:10:48.920 --> 01:11:00.920]  And at that point I would ask what's the difference of having a house on a piece of land and being taxed on it
[01:11:00.920 --> 01:11:14.920]  and having a car in the parking lot or on the, you know, where I live, my car is there.
[01:11:14.920 --> 01:11:22.920]  Why don't they include my car in the property versus the house on the property?
[01:11:22.920 --> 01:11:24.920]  Because the car is movable.
[01:11:24.920 --> 01:11:27.920]  The house and the land are not.
[01:11:27.920 --> 01:11:28.920]  That's the difference.
[01:11:28.920 --> 01:11:34.920]  Anything that is movable is considered personal property.
[01:11:34.920 --> 01:11:37.920]  Okay, I understand that.
[01:11:37.920 --> 01:11:47.920]  But then again, I also understand I don't own my car either because I don't have an MSC or NCO or whatever it is there.
[01:11:47.920 --> 01:11:54.920]  I mean, listen, I understand there's a lot of fraud going on, bottom line.
[01:11:54.920 --> 01:11:56.920]  Right, there is.
[01:11:56.920 --> 01:11:58.920]  Absolutely, a lot of fraud.
[01:11:58.920 --> 01:12:02.920]  But does that answer your question?
[01:12:02.920 --> 01:12:04.920]  To a degree, yes.
[01:12:04.920 --> 01:12:06.920]  Yeah.
[01:12:06.920 --> 01:12:09.920]  Okay, is there anything else you want to ask about?
[01:12:09.920 --> 01:12:11.920]  What can I do?
[01:12:11.920 --> 01:12:15.920]  How can I get a patent on my...
[01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:21.920]  You need to go and talk to the patent office as far as the land services office.
[01:12:21.920 --> 01:12:23.920]  They can tell you what to do.
[01:12:23.920 --> 01:12:28.920]  You can even look through their records and see other land patents that have been filed.
[01:12:28.920 --> 01:12:34.920]  Okay, and that would be at an abstract office or the county court house.
[01:12:34.920 --> 01:12:36.920]  No, that's down here in Austin.
[01:12:36.920 --> 01:12:39.920]  There's a land office in Austin you can go to.
[01:12:39.920 --> 01:12:42.920]  And apparently they're very helpful in that regard.
[01:12:42.920 --> 01:12:47.920]  Yeah, they even know what it is and have a handling.
[01:12:47.920 --> 01:12:52.920]  Yeah, because, you know, I listened to other people and they said, oh, you know what?
[01:12:52.920 --> 01:12:59.920]  I filed to get a land patent and they just kind of laughed at me and said, no way, that's not going to happen.
[01:12:59.920 --> 01:13:01.920]  Well, that's incorrect.
[01:13:01.920 --> 01:13:05.920]  I personally know people that have gotten them.
[01:13:05.920 --> 01:13:13.920]  So, you know, to get one, what would be the process?
[01:13:13.920 --> 01:13:18.920]  Well, that's a little more in depth than what we can cover on the show.
[01:13:18.920 --> 01:13:22.920]  That's where you're going to have to step up and do your own research and dig in.
[01:13:22.920 --> 01:13:24.920]  If you go to the land patent office...
[01:13:24.920 --> 01:13:26.920]  Go ahead, Randy.
[01:13:26.920 --> 01:13:31.920]  The land, I forget what it's called, it's not to cause a patent office.
[01:13:31.920 --> 01:13:33.920]  Oh, it's a land...
[01:13:33.920 --> 01:13:35.920]  You can look it up.
[01:13:35.920 --> 01:13:40.920]  It's in Austin and apparently these people don't get many people coming down there.
[01:13:40.920 --> 01:13:45.920]  So when you do, they just bend over backwards to help you get this done.
[01:13:45.920 --> 01:13:47.920]  It's a relatively simple procedure.
[01:13:47.920 --> 01:13:49.920]  And they'll tell you exactly how to do it.
[01:13:49.920 --> 01:13:52.920]  They don't think it costs about five bucks.
[01:13:52.920 --> 01:13:54.920]  Yeah, well, that would be no problem.
[01:13:54.920 --> 01:14:03.920]  Once you've brought the patent forward and you declare your property private,
[01:14:03.920 --> 01:14:09.920]  now you'll have to contract for fire and police services.
[01:14:09.920 --> 01:14:10.920]  Okay.
[01:14:10.920 --> 01:14:15.920]  Because you're not paying the taxes, you're not paying for the services.
[01:14:15.920 --> 01:14:16.920]  Right.
[01:14:16.920 --> 01:14:20.920]  Yeah, and see, what they're doing is they're, as Mark Stevens aptly puts it,
[01:14:20.920 --> 01:14:25.920]  they're forcing the services down our throat at the barrel of a gun with these taxes.
[01:14:25.920 --> 01:14:30.920]  Whether we want the services or not, they're forcing us to pay for them.
[01:14:30.920 --> 01:14:31.920]  Yeah.
[01:14:31.920 --> 01:14:34.920]  That's what this all really boils down to.
[01:14:34.920 --> 01:14:36.920]  I understand that.
[01:14:36.920 --> 01:14:42.920]  You know, Mark Stevens, I like, I got his book.
[01:14:42.920 --> 01:14:48.920]  Can't wait for his next one to come out, but...
[01:14:48.920 --> 01:14:51.920]  You know, one of these days, we'll figure it out,
[01:14:51.920 --> 01:14:57.920]  and then I can pass it on to everybody that I know in the neighborhood.
[01:14:57.920 --> 01:14:59.920]  Well, hopefully by the time it's figured out,
[01:14:59.920 --> 01:15:03.920]  we'll be educated enough to put a stop to it to begin with,
[01:15:03.920 --> 01:15:08.920]  so that they can't do it to anybody ever at all.
[01:15:08.920 --> 01:15:14.920]  But that's going to take a mass education here to make that happen.
[01:15:14.920 --> 01:15:20.920]  Yeah, or, you know, let's put Ron Paul in and see what he can come up with.
[01:15:20.920 --> 01:15:23.920]  He's not going to be able to change everything in the time he's in there.
[01:15:23.920 --> 01:15:26.920]  If he tries, he's going to wind up like JFK.
[01:15:26.920 --> 01:15:28.920]  Well, I understand that too.
[01:15:28.920 --> 01:15:30.920]  You know, I really do.
[01:15:30.920 --> 01:15:35.920]  And that's a shame, but, you know...
[01:15:35.920 --> 01:15:40.920]  Okay, you know, kill a hundred of them, we got a hundred more.
[01:15:40.920 --> 01:15:43.920]  Yeah, well, when was the last time we had a JFK?
[01:15:43.920 --> 01:15:46.920]  For that matter, when was the last time we had an Andrew Jackson,
[01:15:46.920 --> 01:15:51.920]  who is toted as the last honest president we ever had?
[01:15:51.920 --> 01:15:54.920]  Well, and Thomas Jefferson and...
[01:15:54.920 --> 01:15:58.920]  Oh, they preceded Jackson by a considerable margin.
[01:15:58.920 --> 01:16:00.920]  Well, yeah, they did.
[01:16:00.920 --> 01:16:03.920]  Yeah, I agree, I agree.
[01:16:03.920 --> 01:16:14.920]  And, you know what, there's a whole bunch of papers that say enough's enough.
[01:16:14.920 --> 01:16:18.920]  Ah, well, we need to get them all standing in one place, saying that.
[01:16:18.920 --> 01:16:20.920]  Then we can make a difference.
[01:16:20.920 --> 01:16:22.920]  Well, that is true, that is true.
[01:16:22.920 --> 01:16:29.920]  And, you know what, we may be in a position now where, okay, it's starting to happen.
[01:16:29.920 --> 01:16:33.920]  Twenty years from now, maybe it will.
[01:16:33.920 --> 01:16:36.920]  All right, Harold, is there anything else?
[01:16:36.920 --> 01:16:39.920]  No, you know, that was the bottom line.
[01:16:39.920 --> 01:16:43.920]  I just, I don't want to get a little information about that.
[01:16:43.920 --> 01:16:45.920]  Okay, well, we appreciate that.
[01:16:45.920 --> 01:16:46.920]  We're about to go to break.
[01:16:46.920 --> 01:16:48.920]  This is Rural Law Radio.
[01:16:48.920 --> 01:16:51.920]  The call in number is 512-646-1984.
[01:16:51.920 --> 01:16:53.920]  Tony, I see you on the board.
[01:16:53.920 --> 01:16:55.920]  Hang on, we'll get you on the other side at the break.
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[01:19:24.920 --> 01:19:29.920]  If I can't get everything I want,
[01:19:29.920 --> 01:19:35.920]  forget a ranger.
[01:19:35.920 --> 01:19:39.920]  If I can't get everything I need.
[01:19:39.920 --> 01:19:40.920]  All right, folks, we are back.
[01:19:40.920 --> 01:19:42.920]  This is Rule of Law Radio.
[01:19:42.920 --> 01:19:46.920]  Call in number is 512-646-1984.
[01:19:46.920 --> 01:19:48.920]  We only have one caller up on the board
[01:19:48.920 --> 01:19:52.920]  and 45 minutes left in the show, so don't leave us hanging.
[01:19:52.920 --> 01:19:54.920]  If we don't have any callers to talk to,
[01:19:54.920 --> 01:19:57.920]  we have to let Randy talk, so y'all give us a call.
[01:19:57.920 --> 01:20:00.920]  Let's go to Tony in Illinois.
[01:20:00.920 --> 01:20:03.920]  Ian and Tony, what can we do for you?
[01:20:03.920 --> 01:20:06.920]  A few comments, two questions.
[01:20:06.920 --> 01:20:12.920]  You had that caller earlier speaking about silver versus gold.
[01:20:12.920 --> 01:20:15.920]  Well, one thing about silver is it doesn't have the history
[01:20:15.920 --> 01:20:19.920]  of being confiscated,
[01:20:19.920 --> 01:20:23.920]  but it is probably unlikely in the future due to the industrial use
[01:20:23.920 --> 01:20:26.920]  as you mentioned yourself.
[01:20:26.920 --> 01:20:31.920]  Also, the price is pretty suppressed right now.
[01:20:31.920 --> 01:20:36.920]  Traditionally, the ratio of gold to silver is 15 to 1 as far as price.
[01:20:36.920 --> 01:20:41.920]  Right now, it's about 50 or 60 to 1.
[01:20:41.920 --> 01:20:47.920]  Also, there's a lot of manipulation as far as that goes as well.
[01:20:47.920 --> 01:20:56.920]  Another form of it that one might look into trading or bartering with
[01:20:56.920 --> 01:21:01.920]  is the junk silver, which is pre-1965 dimes and quarters,
[01:21:01.920 --> 01:21:05.920]  which are now worth far more than face value.
[01:21:05.920 --> 01:21:10.920]  Oh, yeah, like $2.20 or $0.50 a piece.
[01:21:10.920 --> 01:21:14.920]  Yeah, I think the quarters are more than that, maybe like four.
[01:21:14.920 --> 01:21:18.920]  Well, it has come down recently because there was a dollar rally
[01:21:18.920 --> 01:21:22.920]  a couple of months ago, but that's going to be a short list.
[01:21:22.920 --> 01:21:26.920]  Along that and the same line, when you had Harmon Taylor on,
[01:21:26.920 --> 01:21:31.920]  I had meant to mention, I believe earlier this year,
[01:21:31.920 --> 01:21:36.920]  when Bernanke was in committee with Ron Paul, Ron Paul asked him
[01:21:36.920 --> 01:21:38.920]  what is the definition of a dollar,
[01:21:38.920 --> 01:21:45.920]  and Bernanke's response was, whatever you can buy with it.
[01:21:45.920 --> 01:21:47.920]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:21:47.920 --> 01:21:49.920]  Knowing full well, that's not an answer,
[01:21:49.920 --> 01:21:55.920]  and it shows the instability and undermining of the economy itself.
[01:21:55.920 --> 01:22:02.920]  Well, he also said that gold wasn't money as well in committee, too.
[01:22:02.920 --> 01:22:08.920]  Maybe some months ago, you had been speaking with a caller
[01:22:08.920 --> 01:22:11.920]  about the Qualified Written Request,
[01:22:11.920 --> 01:22:23.920]  and you said that the guy had put a mention of an accounting error,
[01:22:23.920 --> 01:22:25.920]  but you said that that wasn't enough,
[01:22:25.920 --> 01:22:30.920]  so how specific do you have to get in a Qualified Written Request
[01:22:30.920 --> 01:22:33.920]  because it's really easy.
[01:22:33.920 --> 01:22:36.920]  Pull out your HUD 1 settlement statement.
[01:22:36.920 --> 01:22:37.920]  Right.
[01:22:37.920 --> 01:22:39.920]  Look at the second page.
[01:22:39.920 --> 01:22:43.920]  It lists all of the fees that the lender charged you.
[01:22:43.920 --> 01:22:46.920]  On the first page, it says how much the note was
[01:22:46.920 --> 01:22:50.920]  and how much taxes were.
[01:22:50.920 --> 01:22:52.920]  There's general stuff.
[01:22:52.920 --> 01:22:54.920]  You go to the second page,
[01:22:54.920 --> 01:22:57.920]  and from line 800 down,
[01:22:57.920 --> 01:23:00.920]  it lists all of the fees they charged you.
[01:23:00.920 --> 01:23:03.920]  Well, under the real estate settlement procedures act,
[01:23:03.920 --> 01:23:06.920]  they're only allowed to charge you those fees
[01:23:06.920 --> 01:23:11.920]  that you would have to pay if you purchased the property and cash.
[01:23:11.920 --> 01:23:15.920]  And those fees, the borrower, I mean, sorry,
[01:23:15.920 --> 01:23:19.920]  those fees the lender must pay to a third-party vendor
[01:23:19.920 --> 01:23:23.920]  for extraordinary services.
[01:23:23.920 --> 01:23:28.920]  Those services that are the normal part of doing business
[01:23:28.920 --> 01:23:33.920]  are considered to be part of the finance charge,
[01:23:33.920 --> 01:23:37.920]  the reason you charge the interest that you do.
[01:23:37.920 --> 01:23:42.920]  So those fees are intended to be taken out of the interest that you pay,
[01:23:42.920 --> 01:23:45.920]  but instead, they add all the fees to the head of the note
[01:23:45.920 --> 01:23:47.920]  and charge the interest on it for 30 years.
[01:23:47.920 --> 01:23:49.920]  So you look at those fees and say,
[01:23:49.920 --> 01:23:53.920]  add them all up, say, or it's better in your filing
[01:23:53.920 --> 01:23:55.920]  if you list each one of them.
[01:23:55.920 --> 01:23:59.920]  You say, the line 801,
[01:23:59.920 --> 01:24:03.920]  it's a yield spread premium.
[01:24:03.920 --> 01:24:05.920]  That can only be 1% of the notes,
[01:24:05.920 --> 01:24:10.920]  generally what they pay the originator of the note
[01:24:10.920 --> 01:24:15.920]  for a commission for bringing the note to them.
[01:24:15.920 --> 01:24:20.920]  Now, you didn't provide documentation to show that that fee
[01:24:20.920 --> 01:24:27.920]  was an extraordinary fee other than not a normal cost to do in business.
[01:24:27.920 --> 01:24:30.920]  You didn't show that these, all of these fees,
[01:24:30.920 --> 01:24:33.920]  some of them are valid, we know that,
[01:24:33.920 --> 01:24:35.920]  but nobody proves them up.
[01:24:35.920 --> 01:24:38.920]  So you say, you didn't provide documentation to show
[01:24:38.920 --> 01:24:42.920]  that these fees were actually charged,
[01:24:42.920 --> 01:24:46.920]  that it was paid for services that was actually done,
[01:24:46.920 --> 01:24:51.920]  and that if the service was done, that the service was necessary,
[01:24:51.920 --> 01:24:53.920]  and that the service was extraordinary,
[01:24:53.920 --> 01:24:57.920]  so you didn't have to include as part of the service charge,
[01:24:57.920 --> 01:25:02.920]  that you didn't pay that fee to a front company
[01:25:02.920 --> 01:25:06.920]  for one of my fiduciaries in order to bribe my fiduciary
[01:25:06.920 --> 01:25:09.920]  into breaching his duty to me, for instance,
[01:25:09.920 --> 01:25:15.920]  a real estate agent to bribe him into upselling the note to me
[01:25:15.920 --> 01:25:17.920]  and committing fraud by non-disclosure,
[01:25:17.920 --> 01:25:22.920]  but not telling me everything in order to get me to accept his note.
[01:25:22.920 --> 01:25:27.920]  And you didn't provide documentation to indicate
[01:25:27.920 --> 01:25:32.920]  that you didn't take an unauthorized markup on the fee charged.
[01:25:32.920 --> 01:25:37.920]  Therefore, I dispute all of these fees,
[01:25:37.920 --> 01:25:39.920]  because they are improper and incorrect,
[01:25:39.920 --> 01:25:46.920]  and I have built a spreadsheet that you can load these fees into,
[01:25:46.920 --> 01:25:51.920]  and that's what my Calculate Fraud page does on the Remedies and Readers side.
[01:25:51.920 --> 01:25:58.920]  You put in these fees in a virtual HUD 1 that I have on the website,
[01:25:58.920 --> 01:26:01.920]  and it'll conch the numbers.
[01:26:01.920 --> 01:26:04.920]  It will take all of those fees, add them all together,
[01:26:04.920 --> 01:26:07.920]  and track it from the principal,
[01:26:07.920 --> 01:26:17.920]  and run the note with that amount taken off as an overpayment on the first payment.
[01:26:17.920 --> 01:26:22.920]  And then see how much you'll overpay the note
[01:26:22.920 --> 01:26:28.920]  based on that amount of fees removed from the principal.
[01:26:28.920 --> 01:26:35.920]  One of the first ones I did was 115,006 at 6%.
[01:26:35.920 --> 01:26:39.920]  They charged him $12,000 in fees.
[01:26:39.920 --> 01:26:43.920]  If you take the $12,000 off and run the note,
[01:26:43.920 --> 01:26:50.920]  he will overpay the note by $50,000 and change.
[01:26:50.920 --> 01:26:55.920]  That's almost half of the note.
[01:26:55.920 --> 01:27:00.920]  You wouldn't think he was paying like $47 extra a month.
[01:27:00.920 --> 01:27:02.920]  You wouldn't think it would be that much,
[01:27:02.920 --> 01:27:06.920]  but it really adds up when you're taking amounts off the head of the note
[01:27:06.920 --> 01:27:09.920]  and not paying interest on them for 30 years.
[01:27:09.920 --> 01:27:15.920]  So you take that amount, and you say, I dispute this amount.
[01:27:15.920 --> 01:27:17.920]  I think it is incorrect.
[01:27:17.920 --> 01:27:20.920]  You've made an accounting error.
[01:27:20.920 --> 01:27:24.920]  You have improperly charged me these fees.
[01:27:24.920 --> 01:27:29.920]  Take them off the note, recalculate my note.
[01:27:29.920 --> 01:27:31.920]  That's an accounting error.
[01:27:31.920 --> 01:27:35.920]  Or you can look at escrow if you find a problem with escrow.
[01:27:35.920 --> 01:27:40.920]  They're only allowed to collect from you twice the amount
[01:27:40.920 --> 01:27:44.920]  that they would have to pay in a given month.
[01:27:44.920 --> 01:27:49.920]  If they have kept a positive escrow balance in excess of that,
[01:27:49.920 --> 01:27:53.920]  then that's an accounting error.
[01:27:53.920 --> 01:28:01.920]  If they've collected escrow amounts that weren't added to your escrow account,
[01:28:01.920 --> 01:28:06.920]  any accounting error where they've charged you for something
[01:28:06.920 --> 01:28:10.920]  that you didn't get, where you paid for something you didn't get credit for,
[01:28:10.920 --> 01:28:13.920]  and one on the HUD 1 settlement statement, you can always do that
[01:28:13.920 --> 01:28:18.920]  when we have close to around 500 federal lawsuits out there.
[01:28:18.920 --> 01:28:23.920]  And most every one of them makes this claim.
[01:28:23.920 --> 01:28:32.920]  And we have yet to have a single lender prove up a single fee.
[01:28:32.920 --> 01:28:35.920]  So this was a good one to claim.
[01:28:35.920 --> 01:28:39.920]  Now we know some of those fees are valid,
[01:28:39.920 --> 01:28:47.920]  but we also know that at least two or three of them are always invalid.
[01:28:47.920 --> 01:28:54.920]  And that comes up criminal theft no matter how you slice it.
[01:28:54.920 --> 01:28:59.920]  So when we ask them to prove it up, all of these fees,
[01:28:59.920 --> 01:29:03.920]  they don't prove up any because if they prove up one,
[01:29:03.920 --> 01:29:07.920]  and don't prove up another, it creates an adverse inference
[01:29:07.920 --> 01:29:11.920]  that the one you didn't prove up was exactly what we said it was.
[01:29:11.920 --> 01:29:17.920]  A false fee charged for the purpose of vibing our fiduciary, the fiduciary
[01:29:17.920 --> 01:29:21.920]  is to breach the fiduciary duty to us.
[01:29:21.920 --> 01:29:23.920]  So they don't dare prove any of them.
[01:29:23.920 --> 01:29:27.920]  That's the way I go about any qualified request.
[01:29:27.920 --> 01:29:29.920]  And I hope that explains it.
[01:29:29.920 --> 01:29:31.920]  I suspect it over.
[01:29:31.920 --> 01:29:42.920]  Yeah, I heard about that.
[01:29:42.920 --> 01:29:44.920]  Yeah, I got a little more.
[01:29:44.920 --> 01:29:45.920]  Okay, good.
[01:29:45.920 --> 01:29:46.920]  Good.
[01:29:46.920 --> 01:29:47.920]  Good.
[01:29:47.920 --> 01:29:48.920]  Good.
[01:29:48.920 --> 01:29:49.920]  Good.
[01:29:49.920 --> 01:29:50.920]  Good.
[01:29:50.920 --> 01:29:51.920]  Good.
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[01:29:55.920 --> 01:29:56.920]  Good.
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[01:32:39.920 --> 01:32:45.920]  Alright, Randy, do you want to pick back up a little bit with the caller, please?
[01:32:45.920 --> 01:32:46.920]  Yeah.
[01:32:46.920 --> 01:32:50.920]  Oh, man, somebody muted my mic again.
[01:32:50.920 --> 01:32:53.920]  Yes, uh, go ahead, Tony, I'm sorry.
[01:32:53.920 --> 01:32:58.920]  Um, speaking of Robert Fox and seminars,
[01:32:58.920 --> 01:33:06.920]  recently we saw a seminar that took place in Texas in 1995 by the Erwin Rommel School of Law.
[01:33:06.920 --> 01:33:08.920]  Are you familiar with them at all?
[01:33:08.920 --> 01:33:10.920]  Yes, I am.
[01:33:10.920 --> 01:33:13.920]  What's your opinion of them?
[01:33:13.920 --> 01:33:19.920]  Well, uh, I'm not intimately familiar with what they did,
[01:33:19.920 --> 01:33:22.920]  but for the most part they tended to follow law.
[01:33:22.920 --> 01:33:23.920]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:33:23.920 --> 01:33:26.920]  Because this seminar that I watched was excellent,
[01:33:26.920 --> 01:33:31.920]  especially the presentation by Mike Brown or Michael Brown.
[01:33:31.920 --> 01:33:35.920]  And he did the first four tapes, basically.
[01:33:35.920 --> 01:33:40.920]  I guess it was seven tapes, I think, and then about two hours on each.
[01:33:40.920 --> 01:33:45.920]  And what he did was specifically talk about law,
[01:33:45.920 --> 01:33:54.920]  especially federal statute, and his experiences with, let's say, litigation,
[01:33:54.920 --> 01:33:58.920]  and ruining judges' careers.
[01:33:58.920 --> 01:34:02.920]  And he might be a good guy to have on the show sometimes.
[01:34:02.920 --> 01:34:07.920]  So there was a Peter John Simpson who had some, uh,
[01:34:07.920 --> 01:34:11.920]  certain biblical opinions that might have run people the wrong way.
[01:34:11.920 --> 01:34:18.920]  And there was DeWayne Rogers who, I guess his specialty is kind of playing word games
[01:34:18.920 --> 01:34:22.920]  with the authorities and not really answering questions and that sort of thing,
[01:34:22.920 --> 01:34:24.920]  which was interesting as well.
[01:34:24.920 --> 01:34:32.920]  But especially the Mike Brown part is really strong as far as being about the law.
[01:34:32.920 --> 01:34:38.920]  And he also specifically said, spoke against the whole Patriot mythology stuff.
[01:34:38.920 --> 01:34:44.920]  And the reason I said Robert Fox is that he was on that tape listed as, I guess,
[01:34:44.920 --> 01:34:46.920]  a contact or whatever.
[01:34:46.920 --> 01:34:51.920]  The funny thing is he was listed as Ambassador Robert Fox.
[01:34:51.920 --> 01:34:55.920]  So that might go into some of the disagreements you had with him,
[01:34:55.920 --> 01:34:57.920]  specifically aside from that.
[01:34:57.920 --> 01:35:01.920]  No, Robert Fox, the reason he does that, there's a history to that.
[01:35:01.920 --> 01:35:03.920]  Yeah.
[01:35:03.920 --> 01:35:10.920]  Robert Fox has a, a, a seminal case with his name on it.
[01:35:10.920 --> 01:35:16.920]  He was pulled over for having, having forged,
[01:35:16.920 --> 01:35:22.920]  or he was arrested by the fence for having forged documents.
[01:35:22.920 --> 01:35:23.920]  Wow.
[01:35:23.920 --> 01:35:27.920]  He had documents that showed that he was the ambassador for the,
[01:35:27.920 --> 01:35:31.920]  for the Kingdom of Israel.
[01:35:31.920 --> 01:35:34.920]  And he threw them in the federal lockup and prosecution.
[01:35:34.920 --> 01:35:37.920]  He went to court and the court said,
[01:35:37.920 --> 01:35:45.920]  you arrested this man for having forged documents from the Kingdom of Israel.
[01:35:45.920 --> 01:35:50.920]  There is no Kingdom of Israel.
[01:35:50.920 --> 01:35:52.920]  They said, we have forged documents.
[01:35:52.920 --> 01:36:00.920]  You cannot forge documents from a non-existent country and threw them out of his court.
[01:36:00.920 --> 01:36:06.920]  So, and that's why he still calls himself the ambassador.
[01:36:06.920 --> 01:36:09.920]  But people can actually check out that seminar.
[01:36:09.920 --> 01:36:10.920]  It's on YouTube.
[01:36:10.920 --> 01:36:12.920]  It doesn't have very many views at all.
[01:36:12.920 --> 01:36:18.920]  But you could search it by just, you could just put in Rommel as an urban Rommel.
[01:36:18.920 --> 01:36:19.920]  They're not mouthy or anything.
[01:36:19.920 --> 01:36:21.920]  It's just something that came out.
[01:36:21.920 --> 01:36:22.920]  He explains it.
[01:36:22.920 --> 01:36:30.920]  But you just put Rommel and then put 1-7A through.
[01:36:30.920 --> 01:36:32.920]  Can you email me a link to that?
[01:36:32.920 --> 01:36:34.920]  What's that?
[01:36:34.920 --> 01:36:37.920]  Can you email me a link to that?
[01:36:37.920 --> 01:36:40.920]  You can just search it on YouTube or Rommel School of Law.
[01:36:40.920 --> 01:36:42.920]  It'll come up.
[01:36:42.920 --> 01:36:44.920]  But I'm just telling you how it's numbered.
[01:36:44.920 --> 01:36:50.920]  It's 1-7A and then for the second tape it's 2-7A.
[01:36:50.920 --> 01:36:55.920]  There's B and C and D and D because each segment is only 10 minutes long on YouTube.
[01:36:55.920 --> 01:37:03.920]  But there's about 10 or 12 segments per tape and there's 7 tapes.
[01:37:03.920 --> 01:37:08.920]  So, like I was saying, it's 3-7 and etc.
[01:37:08.920 --> 01:37:11.920]  One more thing before I go.
[01:37:11.920 --> 01:37:19.920]  If people want free legal advice from lawyers to kind of find out procedure
[01:37:19.920 --> 01:37:24.920]  or whatever, they can check out A-V-V-O.com.
[01:37:24.920 --> 01:37:28.920]  That's Apple, Victor, Victor, Oreo.com.
[01:37:28.920 --> 01:37:33.920]  And there's a lot of free answers to questions and whatever.
[01:37:33.920 --> 01:37:39.920]  And it might help you actually find that competent attorney if that's something you want to do,
[01:37:39.920 --> 01:37:44.920]  especially in the DUI situation.
[01:37:44.920 --> 01:37:47.920]  A lot of these lawyers just want to plead.
[01:37:47.920 --> 01:37:52.920]  But there's some good lawyers, especially Dan Ranzel, that really know their stuff.
[01:37:52.920 --> 01:37:57.920]  And to make that stuff away, I'm sure Eddie could talk about this.
[01:37:57.920 --> 01:38:02.920]  All the things they do wrong when they do the field sobriety test and all that.
[01:38:02.920 --> 01:38:04.920]  Everything they do wrong.
[01:38:04.920 --> 01:38:06.920]  Right, right.
[01:38:06.920 --> 01:38:13.920]  But yeah, Dan Ranzel in particular, R-E-M-S-D-E,
[01:38:13.920 --> 01:38:17.920]  based in the DUI, I might want to check him out on A-V-V-O.com.
[01:38:17.920 --> 01:38:19.920]  But anyway, thanks guys.
[01:38:19.920 --> 01:38:23.920]  Okay, thank you very much.
[01:38:23.920 --> 01:38:25.920]  Can we pick it up, Eddie?
[01:38:25.920 --> 01:38:26.920]  Yes, sir.
[01:38:26.920 --> 01:38:29.920]  All right, we're going to go to Robin in Florida.
[01:38:29.920 --> 01:38:31.920]  Robin, what can we do for you?
[01:38:31.920 --> 01:38:33.920]  Hey gentlemen, how are you doing tonight?
[01:38:33.920 --> 01:38:35.920]  All right, how are you?
[01:38:35.920 --> 01:38:37.920]  All right, do you hear me okay?
[01:38:37.920 --> 01:38:39.920]  So far.
[01:38:39.920 --> 01:38:46.920]  And I've got a few questions for closure, debt related, et cetera, et cetera.
[01:38:46.920 --> 01:38:51.920]  I filed a BK bankruptcy about three weeks ago.
[01:38:51.920 --> 01:39:01.920]  I'm still getting calls and a couple days ago, I had my bank account drained by a garnishment.
[01:39:01.920 --> 01:39:06.920]  So that's an obvious violation of the automatic stay for bankruptcy.
[01:39:06.920 --> 01:39:10.920]  So I filed a bigger resist to stop a sale on a property.
[01:39:10.920 --> 01:39:13.920]  So here's my question.
[01:39:13.920 --> 01:39:20.920]  I got the money back, I raised hell with them.
[01:39:20.920 --> 01:39:24.920]  They were very quick to put that money back to say the least.
[01:39:24.920 --> 01:39:33.920]  My question is this, it was about $5,000 or $6,000 that they took out and they put it back.
[01:39:33.920 --> 01:39:44.920]  They still haven't paid me back non-sufficient fund fees, the statutory fee that the state charges to give to the garnish sheet.
[01:39:44.920 --> 01:39:48.920]  You're probably going to have to sue them to get it too.
[01:39:48.920 --> 01:39:52.920]  Yeah, this is my question.
[01:39:52.920 --> 01:39:55.920]  I have a few options.
[01:39:55.920 --> 01:40:02.920]  I can go through the bankruptcy court, I guess, and file a motion for sanctions, I guess, to do that.
[01:40:02.920 --> 01:40:10.920]  Or I can file in small claims or I can file in federal court for fair debt collection practices violations.
[01:40:10.920 --> 01:40:22.920]  No, actually, if you have a claim that's related to the bankruptcy, you'll have to file the claim in the court that you're already in.
[01:40:22.920 --> 01:40:23.920]  Okay.
[01:40:23.920 --> 01:40:30.920]  If you try to file in another court, they're going to remove it back to this one and likely the file sanctions against you.
[01:40:30.920 --> 01:40:33.920]  Then it'll cost you a filing fee for no purpose.
[01:40:33.920 --> 01:40:45.920]  Once this court has subject matter jurisdiction over any part of the issue, they have subject matter jurisdiction over all parts of the issue.
[01:40:45.920 --> 01:40:48.920]  So you would bring it all to the same court.
[01:40:48.920 --> 01:40:51.920]  So I'd have to do it through the bankruptcy court now?
[01:40:51.920 --> 01:41:00.920]  Yeah, do the sanctions. And generally, bankruptcy court judges don't like it when somebody screws with their jurisdiction.
[01:41:00.920 --> 01:41:03.920]  And that's what this was.
[01:41:03.920 --> 01:41:09.920]  And they're likely to thump these guys to make sure they don't do that in the future.
[01:41:09.920 --> 01:41:13.920]  So the bankruptcy court is probably the best place to come to.
[01:41:13.920 --> 01:41:22.920]  Slating, slating. Okay. So what would that be? I would motion the court then or would I have the trustee does that automatically?
[01:41:22.920 --> 01:41:24.920]  I would need to motion the court.
[01:41:24.920 --> 01:41:30.920]  No, you motion the court for sanctions. The trustee is not going to ask for sanctions for you.
[01:41:30.920 --> 01:41:40.920]  He may ask for them to return the money they took, but any other harm that you may suffer, he's not going to care about.
[01:41:40.920 --> 01:41:44.920]  So you'd have to file a motion for sanctions for that purpose.
[01:41:44.920 --> 01:41:54.920]  If you were to file a claim against them beyond the sanctions, you'd need to file an adversarial proceeding in the bankruptcy court.
[01:41:54.920 --> 01:42:03.920]  So let's say the overdraft fee and the statutory fee that they haven't returned to me yet.
[01:42:03.920 --> 01:42:06.920]  I'd have to do an adversarial proceeding for those fees.
[01:42:06.920 --> 01:42:12.920]  Right. You can't ask them to return those because they never took those.
[01:42:12.920 --> 01:42:22.920]  They returned what they took, but these were costs that were incurred, the costs they took it.
[01:42:22.920 --> 01:42:23.920]  Yeah.
[01:42:23.920 --> 01:42:27.920]  So that you'll have to ask somebody to force them to pay.
[01:42:27.920 --> 01:42:32.920]  You should send them a letter and say, you know, you did this improperly.
[01:42:32.920 --> 01:42:37.920]  This is what you cost me, make me whole.
[01:42:37.920 --> 01:42:38.920]  Yeah.
[01:42:38.920 --> 01:42:44.920]  Most likely they will, you know, tell them make me whole so that I don't have to go to the court for sanctions.
[01:42:44.920 --> 01:42:51.920]  And tell them it's relatively going to be chump change and they're not going to be more embarrassing for the court.
[01:42:51.920 --> 01:42:53.920]  So they're probably just paying to you.
[01:42:53.920 --> 01:42:55.920]  Okay.
[01:42:55.920 --> 01:42:57.920]  Another quick question.
[01:42:57.920 --> 01:43:01.920]  I got a letter in the mail from Chase.
[01:43:01.920 --> 01:43:06.920]  This is a mortgage apparently that they claim I owe them.
[01:43:06.920 --> 01:43:10.920]  It's like three different people making a claim on this same thing.
[01:43:10.920 --> 01:43:17.920]  And they say, oh, this is not an attempt to collect the debt, but the last page, they want me to give them bank account information.
[01:43:17.920 --> 01:43:21.920]  That's an attempt to collect the debt no matter what they say.
[01:43:21.920 --> 01:43:22.920]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:43:22.920 --> 01:43:24.920]  Wilson v. something or other.
[01:43:24.920 --> 01:43:31.920]  So I've got some might do the first suit that we find is an FTCP.
[01:43:31.920 --> 01:43:35.920]  And this guy is filled with case law that goes exactly decision.
[01:43:35.920 --> 01:43:36.920]  Gonna have to move on.
[01:43:36.920 --> 01:43:39.920]  We've got two more colors and only a segment.
[01:43:39.920 --> 01:43:41.920]  Thank you for calling.
[01:43:41.920 --> 01:43:43.920]  Okay.
[01:43:43.920 --> 01:43:45.920]  Oh, really good one.
[01:43:45.920 --> 01:43:47.920]  Okay.
[01:43:47.920 --> 01:43:49.920]  We'll be right back on the other side.
[01:43:49.920 --> 01:43:54.920]  Thank you.
[01:44:19.920 --> 01:44:21.920]  Thank you.
[01:44:49.920 --> 01:45:03.920]  Hey, did you hear Ron Paul has announced he's running for president in 2012?
[01:45:03.920 --> 01:45:04.920]  It is Ron Paul.
[01:45:04.920 --> 01:45:05.920]  Really?
[01:45:05.920 --> 01:45:07.920]  Okay, put down the cell phone for one minute.
[01:45:07.920 --> 01:45:10.920]  Your friends really don't care about your Twitter updates on what you had for breakfast.
[01:45:10.920 --> 01:45:13.920]  Oh, but I love to make those little smiley faces with punctuation marks.
[01:45:13.920 --> 01:45:14.920]  Of course you do.
[01:45:14.920 --> 01:45:20.920]  Now listen closely, you need to go down to Brave New Books and learn as much as you can about Ron Paul and his message before it's too late.
[01:45:20.920 --> 01:45:22.920]  They have all of his books and many of the books he talks about.
[01:45:22.920 --> 01:45:27.920]  They also have t-shirts, bumper stickers and yard signs so that you can show your support for him during the campaign.
[01:45:27.920 --> 01:45:28.920]  Brave New Books?
[01:45:28.920 --> 01:45:30.920]  Do they have Harry Potter and Twilight?
[01:45:30.920 --> 01:45:36.920]  No, but they do carry a large selection of survival and preparedness books to protect your family in time of emergency.
[01:45:36.920 --> 01:45:39.920]  Ugh, that sounds like that show in the Discovery Channel.
[01:45:39.920 --> 01:45:46.920]  Yeah, there's even a wilderness survival expert that teaches classes called Earth Skills School that you can sign up for on the website bravenewbookstore.com.
[01:45:46.920 --> 01:45:47.920]  What are you doing?
[01:45:47.920 --> 01:45:52.920]  I'm tweeting all my friends that they should go to bravenewbookstore.com or down to the bookstore in person.
[01:45:52.920 --> 01:45:53.920]  Where's it located?
[01:45:53.920 --> 01:45:55.920]  1904 Guadalupe Street.
[01:45:55.920 --> 01:45:56.920]  There, it's sent.
[01:45:56.920 --> 01:45:57.920]  I even made a smiley face.
[01:45:57.920 --> 01:46:22.920]  Great.
[01:46:22.920 --> 01:46:24.920]  Hi folks, we are back.
[01:46:24.920 --> 01:46:29.920]  This is Rule of Law Radio, Eddie Quinn, Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens.
[01:46:29.920 --> 01:46:33.920]  We are in our last segment and we have Hondo in Texas.
[01:46:33.920 --> 01:46:35.920]  Come on, Hondo, what you got?
[01:46:35.920 --> 01:46:38.920]  How are y'all doing tonight?
[01:46:38.920 --> 01:46:48.920]  I want to tell you, Eddie, on Monday I really enjoyed your show and would encourage people to get that archive if they hadn't heard it.
[01:46:48.920 --> 01:46:55.920]  Also, I hadn't told y'all before, but I've got a victory out in rural West Texas.
[01:46:55.920 --> 01:47:00.920]  The prosecution attorney dismissed twice.
[01:47:00.920 --> 01:47:07.920]  In the same case, the second time with prejudice by ourselves, so she was tired of me.
[01:47:07.920 --> 01:47:08.920]  Well, good.
[01:47:08.920 --> 01:47:11.920]  Let me take that note for one second, Hondo.
[01:47:11.920 --> 01:47:19.920]  Everybody that's out there listening that has used any of the information, advice, or paperwork from the traffic seminar or from class,
[01:47:19.920 --> 01:47:26.920]  if you would please send me an email saying Case 1.
[01:47:26.920 --> 01:47:35.920]  Doesn't matter whether it was dismissed or whatever, just send me an email with Case 1, WON, in the subject line.
[01:47:35.920 --> 01:47:42.920]  I'm trying to compile a more or less accurate count so that we have people that are coming to class that are saying,
[01:47:42.920 --> 01:47:44.920]  yeah, who could prove this and blah, blah, blah.
[01:47:44.920 --> 01:47:46.920]  I want you guys to prove it.
[01:47:46.920 --> 01:47:47.920]  Tell me who you are.
[01:47:47.920 --> 01:47:55.920]  Send me an email so I can bring these emails to class and show these folks that what we're doing is working.
[01:47:55.920 --> 01:47:59.920]  Doesn't matter if you're in Texas or in some other state.
[01:47:59.920 --> 01:48:04.920]  If you use the information we helped you figure out and provide, let me know, please.
[01:48:04.920 --> 01:48:06.920]  Sorry, Hondo, go ahead.
[01:48:06.920 --> 01:48:07.920]  No, that's fine.
[01:48:07.920 --> 01:48:09.920]  I'll try to be quick here.
[01:48:09.920 --> 01:48:19.920]  Caller, I think it was yesterday, was from California or something, was wondering about filing habeas corpus to Claire's name.
[01:48:19.920 --> 01:48:24.920]  And I heard you ask him, are you out on bond?
[01:48:24.920 --> 01:48:39.920]  And he said no, and that made me think if a person is out on bond, would a writ of habeas corpus get their money back and make them start over?
[01:48:39.920 --> 01:48:45.920]  If you can show that the bond was illegally placed on the individual, yes.
[01:48:45.920 --> 01:48:55.920]  That's the purpose of a writ of habeas corpus is to take the person that is under some form of restriction and get the restriction off of them.
[01:48:55.920 --> 01:49:04.920]  They're restricted in their liberty either by being physically incarcerated or bound by a bond that doesn't let them leave a particular area or whatever.
[01:49:04.920 --> 01:49:07.920]  All of that is something a habeas corpus can address.
[01:49:07.920 --> 01:49:08.920]  Okay.
[01:49:08.920 --> 01:49:12.920]  Yes, but guest to getting your money back.
[01:49:12.920 --> 01:49:22.920]  If you're out on a bond, then no money changed hands or at least, let's say, assessed a fee.
[01:49:22.920 --> 01:49:35.920]  If you paid a bondsman to post your bond and the habeas gets rid of the charge and the bail goes away, the bondsman doesn't give you back that money.
[01:49:35.920 --> 01:49:36.920]  Okay.
[01:49:36.920 --> 01:49:41.920]  Because, yeah, you paid him for his service and that part you don't get back.
[01:49:41.920 --> 01:49:43.920]  Well, I didn't pay a bondsman.
[01:49:43.920 --> 01:49:51.920]  Actually, it was a $160 ticket for an inspection sticker and they put me in jail.
[01:49:51.920 --> 01:49:53.920]  I won't go into that.
[01:49:53.920 --> 01:50:02.920]  But anyway, the next morning I went and I was pretty much forced to plead not guilty, so I did.
[01:50:02.920 --> 01:50:09.920]  And so they put me back in jail and charged me, of course, twice the amount to get out, whatever that's called.
[01:50:09.920 --> 01:50:11.920]  I got out of jail and they have three.
[01:50:11.920 --> 01:50:12.920]  Yeah.
[01:50:12.920 --> 01:50:13.920]  What that's called is illegal.
[01:50:13.920 --> 01:50:17.920]  The judge is required to release you on a PR bond for a fine-only offense.
[01:50:17.920 --> 01:50:18.920]  That's right.
[01:50:18.920 --> 01:50:24.920]  The judge must show good cause as to why the person cannot be released on a PR bond.
[01:50:24.920 --> 01:50:27.920]  That is right in 1517G.
[01:50:27.920 --> 01:50:36.920]  Well, and he wouldn't let me, you know, say anything except not guilty or guilty or no real contingent.
[01:50:36.920 --> 01:50:43.920]  And I tried to say something else and he said, if you say anything else besides what I asked you, you're going back in jail.
[01:50:43.920 --> 01:50:44.920]  I'll see you in the morning.
[01:50:44.920 --> 01:50:46.920]  And I was tired of being in there.
[01:50:46.920 --> 01:50:53.920]  So anyway, so really, Havies Corpus would be able to get that back and that's my question.
[01:50:53.920 --> 01:50:57.920]  It should, yes, because the judge's actions were entirely illegal.
[01:50:57.920 --> 01:50:58.920]  Okay.
[01:50:58.920 --> 01:50:59.920]  Well, I'm going to research that.
[01:50:59.920 --> 01:51:03.920]  No statutes and file the writ.
[01:51:03.920 --> 01:51:06.920]  Was this a justice or municipal court, Hondo?
[01:51:06.920 --> 01:51:19.920]  Well, it was a municipal court, but the justice was, he's sitting as a justice for the precinct and the municipal judge for a town, a small town outside it.
[01:51:19.920 --> 01:51:22.920]  So yeah, he's two different.
[01:51:22.920 --> 01:51:23.920]  Wait a minute.
[01:51:23.920 --> 01:51:24.920]  He's a JP?
[01:51:24.920 --> 01:51:29.920]  Yeah, he's a JP and he also sits as a judge for a small town.
[01:51:29.920 --> 01:51:39.920]  Oh, who's that? Two offices, offices of public in my argument are forbidden.
[01:51:39.920 --> 01:51:44.920]  That is no, no, that should get a warrant.
[01:51:44.920 --> 01:51:45.920]  What?
[01:51:45.920 --> 01:51:50.920]  And a quiet town action to recover all the monies he's received as JP.
[01:51:50.920 --> 01:51:56.920]  Really, I would be very interested in looking into that.
[01:51:56.920 --> 01:52:08.920]  Well, the problem is this chapter 45 says very clearly that the appeal or the plea is to be entered when the jury is impaneled.
[01:52:08.920 --> 01:52:16.920]  The judge is skipping your 1517 and your examining trial and going straight to arraignment, which is what all of them do.
[01:52:16.920 --> 01:52:21.920]  All of them skip those first two proceedings, which is highly illegal.
[01:52:21.920 --> 01:52:22.920]  And that's arraignment.
[01:52:22.920 --> 01:52:31.920]  Now, I've cited these cases on the show a couple of weeks ago, but I'll go ahead and give them to you again.
[01:52:31.920 --> 01:52:48.920]  The ones you need to be aware of is Reese v. State 772 Southwest 2nd 288 comma 290 and Parker v. State 745 Southwest 2nd 934 comma 937.
[01:52:48.920 --> 01:53:04.920]  Parker v. State says very clearly that the procedural or I'm sorry, the Reese v. State says that the procedures in the code of criminal procedure are to be treated as statute, meaning they are law and the judges are bound by them and they're not obeying them.
[01:53:04.920 --> 01:53:23.920]  The Parker v. State says very clearly that if any part of the procedural due process in the code of criminal procedure is skipped over and it can show to have caused a harm to the defendant, then the defendant has a right to complain and the court of appeals must listen.
[01:53:23.920 --> 01:53:35.920]  I see. Okay, I'll look at those.
[01:53:35.920 --> 01:53:39.920]  Then I would criminally complain against him on top of that.
[01:53:39.920 --> 01:53:54.920]  I've been working on a judicial conduct complaint about how to put together all the statutes and violations and just need to send that in.
[01:53:54.920 --> 01:54:09.920]  I've got a, I'm sorry, Randy, go ahead. One thing about judicial conduct complaints on the state form, it says do not include case law.
[01:54:09.920 --> 01:54:15.920]  Screw that.
[01:54:15.920 --> 01:54:30.920]  Put it in there anyway. They'll have a much harder time ignoring that then. Now, Hondo, I know you have a seminar material. I do have a motion to disqualify, which I'm converting to a motion to recuse and an affidavit in support.
[01:54:30.920 --> 01:54:45.920]  List all of the due process violations these judges commit from the moment you set foot in their court. Each one of those can be used as a basis for a bar grievance and as a judicial conduct complaint.
[01:54:45.920 --> 01:54:55.920]  And most of them can also be criminal complaints under 39.02 and 39.03 penal code.
[01:54:55.920 --> 01:55:08.920]  So if you don't have the latest version of those, let me know what you may or may not, but I'll go ahead and send you the two documents in email and you can take a look at them.
[01:55:08.920 --> 01:55:11.920]  But use those things to do that.
[01:55:11.920 --> 01:55:25.920]  Okay, I came across something interesting that was just put in an 07 39.015.
[01:55:25.920 --> 01:55:34.920]  What it says is, is if you take a complaint, you file it with a district attorney and district attorney refuses to act on it.
[01:55:34.920 --> 01:55:53.920]  You come back with a complaint against the district attorney. 39.015 says that with the permission of the prosecuting attorney, the attorney general has concurrent jurisdiction in the prosecution of a case under this section.
[01:55:53.920 --> 01:56:05.920]  And since the prosecuting attorney is the accused, he can't grant or deny leave. And the jurisdiction should necessarily fall to the attorney general.
[01:56:05.920 --> 01:56:08.920]  So I'm looking at changing the procedure.
[01:56:08.920 --> 01:56:26.920]  First, we filed against the judge, he gets the prosecutor to refuse to act on it. Then we filed with the attorney general against the prosecutor claiming he has concurrent jurisdiction for prosecutions of public officials.
[01:56:26.920 --> 01:56:32.920]  And since the prosecutor is the accused, it differs to the attorney general.
[01:56:32.920 --> 01:56:37.920]  Then we take the attorney general to the grand jury.
[01:56:37.920 --> 01:56:43.920]  The only problem there though, Randy, is the constitutional limitations on the attorney general's power.
[01:56:43.920 --> 01:56:55.920]  He is allowed only to represent the state before the Texas Supreme Court for the purposes of civil suits against corporations and the revocation of corporate charters.
[01:56:55.920 --> 01:57:01.920]  That's all he can do. He can only act in an advisory capacity to a county or district attorney.
[01:57:01.920 --> 01:57:07.920]  Okay, here's the deal. The statute is in place.
[01:57:07.920 --> 01:57:15.920]  If you want to argue that the statute is unconstitutional, argue that it's unconstitutional.
[01:57:15.920 --> 01:57:22.920]  But until it's declared unconstitutional, it is a statute.
[01:57:22.920 --> 01:57:24.920]  I understand that.
[01:57:24.920 --> 01:57:35.920]  Wait a minute. I'm trying to educate the listeners on the issue of it being unconstitutional. Not arguing with you. Take a volume.
[01:57:35.920 --> 01:57:37.920]  I'm only trying to argue.
[01:57:37.920 --> 01:57:44.920]  I'm offering a different way to go at this. And you're saying don't bother because it's unconstitutional.
[01:57:44.920 --> 01:57:50.920]  I never said don't bother. I never said that. I'm just trying to get that additional information out.
[01:57:50.920 --> 01:57:55.920]  Okay. That's all.
[01:57:55.920 --> 01:57:57.920]  Anything else, sir, Hondo?
[01:57:57.920 --> 01:57:59.920]  That's it, fellas. I appreciate it.
[01:57:59.920 --> 01:58:02.920]  Hey, no problem. I'll get that stuff out to you in the email, okay?
[01:58:02.920 --> 01:58:04.920]  Thank you, sir.
[01:58:04.920 --> 01:58:11.920]  Yes, sir. All right, folks, thanks for listening. This has been the Rule of Law Radio with Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens, Eddie Craig.
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