[00:00.000 --> 00:05.000]  This news brief brought to you by the International Newsnet.
[00:05.000 --> 00:10.520]  U.S. officials say there's growing evidence Pakistan's ISI spy agency encouraged a Pakistani
[00:10.520 --> 00:16.000]  militant group, the Heccani network, to carry out last week's attack on the U.S. embassy
[00:16.000 --> 00:18.280]  and NATO headquarters in Kabul.
[00:18.280 --> 00:25.160]  A U.S. Senate committee voted this week to make $1 billion in USA to flood-ravaged Pakistan
[00:25.160 --> 00:28.360]  conditional on a crackdown on militant groups.
[00:28.360 --> 00:34.640]  Former Afghan President Muranuddin Rabani was killed Tuesday in a suicide bombing.
[00:34.640 --> 00:39.440]  A survivor of the attack and aid to the former president said Rabani was lured to his death
[00:39.440 --> 00:44.240]  by the bomber who claimed he was representing a mysterious figure mediating between the
[00:44.240 --> 00:48.880]  government and the Taliban's senior leadership.
[00:48.880 --> 00:54.040]  NATO leaders Wednesday authorized a 90-day extension of the alliance's mission in Libya.
[00:54.040 --> 00:58.760]  Libya began enforcement of a four-month no-fly zone over Libya in March.
[00:58.760 --> 01:03.240]  NATO fighter jets have flown more than 20,000 sorties over Libya, dropping thousands of
[01:03.240 --> 01:08.040]  bombs to take out Muammar Gaddafi's command centers and military materiel.
[01:08.040 --> 01:12.760]  Hundreds of civilians have been reported killed.
[01:12.760 --> 01:17.200]  Amnesty International says it has uncovered evidence that rebel forces in Libya have committed
[01:17.200 --> 01:20.960]  gross human rights abuses, some amounting to war crimes.
[01:20.960 --> 01:26.080]  The right group also reveals the Western media deliberately ignored or covered up the widespread
[01:26.080 --> 01:27.080]  atrocities.
[01:27.080 --> 01:32.600]  In a report released Tuesday, Amnesty accuses the rebels of unlawful killings, arbitrary
[01:32.600 --> 01:37.320]  arrests and widespread torture of civilians, mostly black foreigners.
[01:37.320 --> 01:43.480]  The report also confirms widely held concerns about the NTC's ability to unite the country
[01:43.480 --> 01:46.040]  and oversee a peaceful transition.
[01:46.040 --> 01:51.160]  The attacks are focused on blacks suspected of being sympathetic to ousted dictator Muammar
[01:51.160 --> 01:52.320]  Gaddafi.
[01:52.320 --> 01:57.960]  The report states, angry groups of supporters of the February 17th Revolution shot, hanged
[01:57.960 --> 02:03.120]  and lynched dozens of captured soldiers and suspected foreign mercenaries and did so with
[02:03.120 --> 02:05.240]  total impunity.
[02:05.240 --> 02:09.720]  Gaddafi's supporters have accused NATO of killing up to 800 civilians.
[02:09.720 --> 02:15.080]  Amnesty says both the NTC and Gaddafi's forces are to blame.
[02:15.080 --> 02:19.760]  U.S. combat troops in Iraq may be heading to the exits, but the U.S. government's enormously
[02:19.760 --> 02:23.400]  expensive intervention there is hardly coming to an end.
[02:23.400 --> 02:30.000]  U.S. officials are planning to expand the gargantuan embassy in Baghdad, a heavily fortified, self-contained
[02:30.000 --> 02:36.120]  compound the size of Vatican City, by far the largest embassy the world has ever seen.
[02:36.120 --> 02:40.840]  Inside its high walls, guard towers and machine gun emplacements bring not just the embassy
[02:40.840 --> 02:43.680]  itself but more than 20 other buildings.
[02:43.680 --> 02:48.280]  The number of personnel under the authority of the U.S. ambassador will swell from 8,000
[02:48.280 --> 02:49.280]  to about 16,000.
[02:49.280 --> 02:50.280]  For details on these stories, visit INNworld.net.
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[04:45.300 --> 04:50.300]  Tonight is Thursday, September 22nd.
[04:50.300 --> 04:57.300]  I'm Deborah Stevens here with my esteemed co-host, Randy Kelton and Eddie Craig.
[04:57.300 --> 05:04.300]  And tonight, as promised, we have Mr. Michael Allison as our guest.
[05:04.300 --> 05:10.300]  He is going to be discussing his recent victory in the Illinois court system
[05:10.300 --> 05:17.300]  concerning the fact that the judge struck down the wiretapping law as unconstitutional,
[05:17.300 --> 05:21.300]  which comes as no big surprise considering the First Circuit Court of Appeals
[05:21.300 --> 05:26.300]  just ruled that people do have the constitutional right to film the police.
[05:26.300 --> 05:29.300]  So Michael is going to be telling us his story tonight.
[05:29.300 --> 05:36.300]  He was charged under wiretapping laws for filming the police in his municipality.
[05:36.300 --> 05:38.300]  We're going to be discussing what led up to this.
[05:38.300 --> 05:46.300]  That is the juiciest part of this story, how he uncovered a car title scam, a theft ring,
[05:46.300 --> 05:50.300]  a vehicle car title theft ring in his municipality.
[05:50.300 --> 05:53.300]  We're going to be discussing that and that is the real reason why they were going after him
[05:53.300 --> 05:58.300]  to try to put him away for 75 years in prison for violating wiretapping laws.
[05:58.300 --> 06:00.300]  Michael, thank you for joining us tonight.
[06:00.300 --> 06:02.300]  Thank you for having me on.
[06:02.300 --> 06:07.300]  So Michael, okay, you were on Gary Johnson's show on Sunday night
[06:07.300 --> 06:12.300]  and you discussed your case and we are going to discuss the case also on this show.
[06:12.300 --> 06:18.300]  And what I really would like to get into is at first, at least the first part of the show,
[06:18.300 --> 06:25.300]  is can you tell the listeners from the get-go, from scratch, how did this all start
[06:25.300 --> 06:35.300]  and what is the big scam that you uncovered concerning the car title scam theft ring?
[06:35.300 --> 06:45.300]  Basically, it started in 2001, going all the way back to 2001 on my private property
[06:45.300 --> 06:48.300]  in the city of Bridgeport, Illinois.
[06:48.300 --> 06:57.300]  And the first instance that I had where I kind of collided with the city officials
[06:57.300 --> 07:05.300]  is whenever they sent me notice, there was a notice saying that I had 10 days
[07:05.300 --> 07:10.300]  to purchase registration for the vehicles that were on my private property
[07:10.300 --> 07:14.300]  because they said that they were in violation of the city ordinance
[07:14.300 --> 07:19.300]  that requires current and valid registration for vehicles,
[07:19.300 --> 07:23.300]  even if they're sitting parked on private property and not being driven.
[07:23.300 --> 07:27.300]  Michael, there is no state statute that requires such a thing in Illinois.
[07:27.300 --> 07:28.300]  Is that correct?
[07:28.300 --> 07:29.300]  That's correct.
[07:29.300 --> 07:33.300]  That's exactly what I discovered was that when I dug into this thing
[07:33.300 --> 07:37.300]  after they had already taken action against me,
[07:37.300 --> 07:44.300]  I discovered that there is no state law that requires the registration for vehicles
[07:44.300 --> 07:46.300]  that are not being driven.
[07:46.300 --> 07:51.300]  State law only requires registration and insurance for vehicles.
[07:51.300 --> 07:55.300]  If you take them out on the city streets or public highways,
[07:55.300 --> 07:59.300]  they have to be duly registered.
[07:59.300 --> 08:00.300]  Right.
[08:00.300 --> 08:04.300]  And I would go so far as to say, and there would have to be in a situation
[08:04.300 --> 08:06.300]  where they're engaged in commerce.
[08:06.300 --> 08:09.300]  Pretty much most state statutes regarding the transportation code,
[08:09.300 --> 08:12.300]  there has to be some commercial activity involved.
[08:12.300 --> 08:18.300]  But at any rate, there is no state statute even regarding commercial vehicles
[08:18.300 --> 08:23.300]  that are driving that a vehicle would have to be registered
[08:23.300 --> 08:25.300]  unless it's on the road.
[08:25.300 --> 08:26.300]  Right.
[08:26.300 --> 08:27.300]  Okay.
[08:27.300 --> 08:32.300]  And we were discussing the other night also the fact that,
[08:32.300 --> 08:36.300]  we were discussing the other night also the fact that in most states
[08:36.300 --> 08:40.300]  there's an enacting clause which most states constitutions,
[08:40.300 --> 08:45.300]  there's an enacting clause which says that only the legislature is authorized
[08:45.300 --> 08:50.300]  to enact law that is binding upon the citizens.
[08:50.300 --> 08:53.300]  Municipalities don't have that authority.
[08:53.300 --> 09:01.300]  Whenever I discovered what the language and the ordinance was all about,
[09:01.300 --> 09:07.300]  I didn't think that they had the right to tell me that my cars on my private property
[09:07.300 --> 09:09.300]  had to be registered.
[09:09.300 --> 09:13.300]  So what I did was when I received the notice,
[09:13.300 --> 09:20.300]  I called up the city hall and requested a meeting to take place.
[09:20.300 --> 09:27.300]  And so eventually I met with the chief of police who issued the notice
[09:27.300 --> 09:30.300]  and the mayor of the town at the time.
[09:30.300 --> 09:35.300]  And I wanted to find out what my rights were and where I stood
[09:35.300 --> 09:39.300]  and what I might need to do to comply with the ordinance.
[09:39.300 --> 09:47.300]  And in 2001, during that meeting, basically the chief of police,
[09:47.300 --> 09:55.300]  after I made several questions, it was almost like a question and answer situation
[09:55.300 --> 09:58.300]  where I wanted to find out every fact in detail I could.
[09:58.300 --> 10:05.300]  And so I was very inquisitive about the ordinance and how it's applied.
[10:05.300 --> 10:11.300]  And whenever I was asking questions about it, I asked the chief of police
[10:11.300 --> 10:18.300]  whether I could just put a tarp over my cars and would that comply.
[10:18.300 --> 10:20.300]  And he said that a tarp would not comply.
[10:20.300 --> 10:25.300]  They have to be wholly enclosed within a building or they have to be registered.
[10:25.300 --> 10:29.300]  And he knew that I didn't have a building to put them in.
[10:29.300 --> 10:35.300]  And they were sitting parked in my driveways while I was restoring two of the three cars that were on the property.
[10:35.300 --> 10:42.300]  Actually, in 2001, there was a fourth car on the property that belonged to my brother.
[10:42.300 --> 10:53.300]  And so the way that it all came about was that the chief of police basically said,
[10:53.300 --> 11:01.300]  I told him that I would register the cars and I would take the money that could be used to buy parts
[11:01.300 --> 11:07.300]  that I could be fixing the cars up with and I'll just waste that money and get the cars registered.
[11:07.300 --> 11:13.300]  And he made a threat saying that if I thought that I could just register the cars
[11:13.300 --> 11:19.300]  and then just let him sit there, that he would still hold them off for an inoperable vehicle violation.
[11:19.300 --> 11:28.300]  And what came up after that was, I said, well, all of them run except for my brother's car.
[11:28.300 --> 11:33.300]  It was kind of in a different category because it was my brother's car.
[11:33.300 --> 11:36.300]  And I couldn't even buy registration for it.
[11:36.300 --> 11:47.300]  He was living out in Arizona and his car was on my private property to just basically be stored there until he could get it out of Arizona.
[11:47.300 --> 11:59.300]  So the cars in question, my cars, I told him that every one of them start, I can start every one of them.
[11:59.300 --> 12:02.300]  And he said, but can you get them out on the road and drive them?
[12:02.300 --> 12:05.300]  And I said, no, there's little things wrong with each one of them.
[12:05.300 --> 12:09.300]  That's why they're in the process of being worked on and restored.
[12:09.300 --> 12:14.300]  And he said, if you can't get them out on the road and drive them, then they're inoperable.
[12:14.300 --> 12:16.300]  Well, how are you supposed to fix a car?
[12:16.300 --> 12:34.300]  That's one of the points of this whole statute or this ordinance is that they go as far as to even make it to where if you are even changing the oil in your car on your private property or the spark plugs even.
[12:34.300 --> 12:37.300]  And you're just doing general maintenance.
[12:37.300 --> 12:45.300]  Then at that time, whenever that car is being worked on, since you can't start that car, it's considered inoperable.
[12:45.300 --> 13:01.300]  And so they will justify harassing you or threatening you or charging you a $500 fine or even threatening to take the car, even if you're in the process of changing the oil.
[13:01.300 --> 13:10.300]  Now, weren't you telling me the other night, Michael, that there was somebody that you knew that was in the process of repairing the car, of their car?
[13:10.300 --> 13:17.300]  And they went to the parts store to buy a part and while they were at the parts store, they came back and the car was gone.
[13:17.300 --> 13:25.300]  That's my understanding is the way that it worked was they had a car that was registered and insured.
[13:25.300 --> 13:48.300]  And the car was registered and insured and it was in the process of being worked on. They had already bought in some parts and they went to the parts store to get more parts and the car was parked on this woman's grandmother's property.
[13:48.300 --> 13:55.300]  And she had permission to have it there. Her grandmother knew the car was there.
[13:55.300 --> 14:09.300]  And from my understanding is that after they actually, the mayor sent the tow truck operator onto the private property and seized this car.
[14:09.300 --> 14:19.300]  And the mayor had a personal involvement because it was a personal vendetta against this woman because she used to rent a property from the mayor.
[14:19.300 --> 14:35.300]  And he was personally involved in this and whenever the car was taken, afterwards, after my whole situation, I went and interviewed her and she told me that when she tried to get that car back,
[14:35.300 --> 14:40.300]  the tow truck operator wanted $2,000 to get that car back.
[14:40.300 --> 14:42.300]  $2,000 for what?
[14:42.300 --> 14:47.300]  For what they're calling towing fees and end-pound storage fees.
[14:47.300 --> 14:50.300]  How long had the tow truck driver had the car?
[14:50.300 --> 15:09.300]  I'm not sure about the details of it. I'm just basically going by what she told me is that by the time she was able to find out where the car was and track it down and get it back, she was told that it was going to cost her $2,000 to get the car back.
[15:09.300 --> 15:12.300]  Okay, so then what happened? Did she come up with the money or what?
[15:12.300 --> 15:21.300]  I asked her myself what happened to the car and she said, well, I didn't have $2,000 and so they kept it.
[15:21.300 --> 15:38.300]  So that's what I wanted to find out was what happened to the car because whenever I had depositions that took place in 2007, in my case, that I filed in 2005 after the action they had taken against me,
[15:38.300 --> 15:54.300]  I wanted to find out by that time I knew that they were taking cars and obtaining titles to these cars because the tow truck operator threatened to do so with my cars when my mother was trying to get them back.
[15:54.300 --> 16:00.300]  And at that time I had left the state of Illinois to go to work on a construction job.
[16:00.300 --> 16:12.300]  In 2003 when they actually seized the cars off of my private property, my mother came to get my mail and noticed the cars were gone so she went about everything it took to get them back.
[16:12.300 --> 16:25.300]  And at the time the tow truck operator threatened that he was going to be able to obtain a title for those cars within 20 days if she didn't do everything that they required for her to get them back.
[16:25.300 --> 16:38.300]  And he threatened that if we didn't comply with all of their requirements that he would obtain a title for those cars and keep them.
[16:38.300 --> 16:41.300]  Okay, we'll pick that up right on the other side.
[16:41.300 --> 16:45.300]  Ladies and gentlemen, we are speaking with Michael Allison of Illinois.
[16:45.300 --> 16:57.300]  He is the man who just beat a 75-year prison sentence for illegal wiretapping charges for filming the police. We're discussing what led up to all of this. We'll be right back.
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[20:21.300 --> 20:28.300]  For those who may just be tuning in, we're here with a very special guest, Mr. Michael Allison from Bridgeport, Illinois.
[20:28.300 --> 20:47.300]  He has made national headline news in the last few weeks because he was facing 75-year prison sentence for illegal wiretapping charges for filming the police in public with his own camera on his own property.
[20:47.300 --> 20:54.300]  Now, just to get the listeners updated, last Friday this breaking news just came down this past Friday.
[20:54.300 --> 21:12.300]  The judge, the state judge, I believe it was a county judge the way their state court system is set up, the county judge threw out the case against him and threw the whole thing out saying that this Illinois law is unconstitutional because people have a first amendment right to film the police.
[21:12.300 --> 21:19.300]  It's not just limited to the press, any citizen has the right to gather information and disseminate it.
[21:19.300 --> 21:28.300]  That's first amendment right and that's not surprising because the First Circuit Court of Appeals just ruled that in the Glick case on August 28th.
[21:28.300 --> 21:42.300]  So we are discussing what led up to Michael's victory and his pending lawsuit whereas he is going to sue these people for violating his rights and more causes of action.
[21:42.300 --> 21:44.300]  We'll talk about that a little bit later in the show.
[21:44.300 --> 22:03.300]  But right now we are discussing the reason that all this happened, the reason they were going after him for the 75-year sentence was because he had uncovered the scam of the century in Bridgeport, Illinois concerning this illegal car title theft ring.
[22:03.300 --> 22:20.300]  So Michael, this woman you knew, she got her car basically stolen off her property while she was in the process of repairing it and I want to get your take at some point concerning who is behind this ordinance.
[22:20.300 --> 22:29.300]  It sounds to me like the car repair shops may be behind this ordinance because it would make it literally so that nobody could repair their own vehicle on their property.
[22:29.300 --> 22:37.300]  You have to take it to a car repair shop or else you risk getting it stolen by the municipality, by the police and the tow truck companies.
[22:37.300 --> 22:56.300]  But at any rate, she let the car go because by the time she found out who had the car and why, she was facing $2,000 impound charges and quote unquote towing costs for having her car quote unquote towed even though she didn't ask for it to be towed.
[22:56.300 --> 23:09.300]  And so now the tow truck company basically was telling her that if she didn't pay within 20 days that he was going to get title and the tow truck company was telling you this as well.
[23:09.300 --> 23:10.300]  Is that right?
[23:10.300 --> 23:37.300]  Yes, basically what you was just saying is just spot on whenever they basically they're saying that they had the right to put a lien against your vehicle and they called a towing fee and it's not a towing fee simply because the vehicle owner did not request it to be towed.
[23:37.300 --> 23:54.300]  It was actually illegally seized from private property and since this is not rooted in any kind of rule of law that they don't have the legal right to do this, you could technically say that it was stolen with a tow truck.
[23:54.300 --> 24:09.300]  And once they obtain the access to the vehicle and actually possess the vehicle, they basically hold it for ransom for what they're calling towing fees and impound storage fees.
[24:09.300 --> 24:17.300]  And if you don't pay it, they claim that that's a legitimate lien that they have against the vehicle.
[24:17.300 --> 24:24.300]  And they go about the process of obtaining a title based on that bogus lien.
[24:24.300 --> 24:26.300]  And what kind of lien are they filing?
[24:26.300 --> 24:29.300]  Didn't you say it was a mechanical lien, a mechanics lien or something?
[24:29.300 --> 24:52.300]  After I discovered a few questions that I asked in discovery in the conference that we had, like a deposition that took place, I asked some specific questions and based on those answers that I received, I requested documents from the state of Illinois.
[24:52.300 --> 25:12.300]  And when I requested them, I said I wanted any kind of document related to how someone would obtain a title for any vehicle through any kind of other means other than being signed over by the legal title holder.
[25:12.300 --> 25:31.300]  So the documents that I would receive were a mechanics lien, storage lien, affirmation sheet, and something called certificate of title that is also filled out by law enforcement.
[25:31.300 --> 25:37.300]  So the certificate of title is filled out by law enforcement at this point?
[25:37.300 --> 25:40.300]  After the lien is filed.
[25:40.300 --> 25:44.300]  It will probably be state law enforcement like it is here in Texas.
[25:44.300 --> 25:49.300]  It's actually the county is what I found out who was involved in it.
[25:49.300 --> 25:53.300]  The county is the one that issued certificate of title for automobiles?
[25:53.300 --> 26:02.300]  No, I mean the county is the one that was involved in filling out these forms and sending them to the state of Illinois.
[26:02.300 --> 26:11.300]  Right, and that's the same way it is here as the tax assessor collector will fill out the application for the certificate of title and forward it to the state.
[26:11.300 --> 26:31.300]  And based on the information that I have received in this, they were obtaining the titles by one of two ways and one of them is a mechanics lien, storage lien, which the tow truck operator or anyone else involved in this scheme could fill that out.
[26:31.300 --> 26:41.300]  And during the follow up question that I asked, basically the tow truck operator implicated the Sheriff's Department, Lawrence County Sheriff's Department.
[26:41.300 --> 26:47.300]  And he said that in order to obtain the title, I have to go through the Lawrence County Sheriff's Department.
[26:47.300 --> 26:55.300]  And he said that there was a individual who filled out the paperwork and sent it to Springfield.
[26:55.300 --> 27:07.300]  Okay, so let me get this straight. Okay, the city of Bridgeport has this ordinance that people can't have inoperable or unregistered vehicles on their property.
[27:07.300 --> 27:19.300]  If somebody, even if it's registered, if they're working on it, they go to the parts store, they risk getting the car stolen literally by the tow truck companies and the municipality.
[27:19.300 --> 27:28.300]  The tow truck company, apparently it's quite a process to even find out who has the car, what tow truck entity's impound yard has the car.
[27:28.300 --> 27:34.300]  Once you find out who has the car, then you've racked up to the tune of $2,000 plus.
[27:34.300 --> 27:47.300]  People can't afford to get it out, but the car would be useless to the tow truck yard owner unless he can get title and then he can send it to the shop shop or sell it or whatever.
[27:47.300 --> 28:03.300]  And so after, at this point, they let 20 days go by, the tow truck yard lets 20 days go by, and then they file a bogus mechanics or storage lien on the title against the car, against the title of the car.
[28:03.300 --> 28:14.300]  And then they have to go through the Sheriff's Department to get a county law enforcement public servant to sign off on the certificate of title.
[28:14.300 --> 28:19.300]  And then they send it to the state in order for the tow truck company to get the certificate of title.
[28:19.300 --> 28:21.300]  Do I have this right?
[28:21.300 --> 28:46.300]  One point is that I think it's either or a situation. The mechanics lien, storage lien, and that information can be filled out by the tow truck operator or any other person involved in the scheme, and then while I was wanting more detail of the process by which they were obtaining titles,
[28:46.300 --> 28:51.300]  the tow truck operator said, and this was under oath, it's a deposition that was taken under oath.
[28:51.300 --> 29:08.300]  And I have the transcripts from it too, that he said that in order to obtain the title, he was going through the, had to go through the Lawrence County Sheriff's Department and that they had an individual that filled out the paperwork.
[29:08.300 --> 29:25.300]  So I asked the state of Illinois for the documents that it would take for a Sheriff's Department or any law enforcement to obtain the title for any vehicles that were not actually signed over by the vehicle owner.
[29:25.300 --> 29:46.300]  And they sent me what they call a certificate of purchase, and it has an affirmation on it that requires the transfer of titles for what they're calling abandoned vehicles. Abandoned, lost, or stolen vehicles is what it says.
[29:46.300 --> 29:51.300]  Okay, so some of these liens, they filed an abandoned, lost, or stolen lien on it.
[29:51.300 --> 29:52.300]  Right.
[29:52.300 --> 29:58.300]  They have the stolen part correct. Yeah, they did indeed. We'll be right back, folks.
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[32:00.300 --> 32:06.300]  Yes, Mr. Albrecht has taken the line ahead.
[32:06.300 --> 32:11.300]  Won't you follow the law of the land?
[32:11.300 --> 32:14.300]  Oh, man, it's bad.
[32:14.300 --> 32:20.300]  The job is to protect the service, not be an abuser.
[32:20.300 --> 32:22.300]  Abuser?
[32:22.300 --> 32:37.300]  When are they going to stop abusing the power?
[32:37.300 --> 32:43.300]  The answer is never, not until we stop them. We've got to stop them, and that's what this show is about.
[32:43.300 --> 32:53.300]  That's what we are here to help folks do, and we've got very special guest Michael Allison here on the line. He is doing a lot to stop them from abusing their power.
[32:53.300 --> 33:02.300]  He uncovered this car title scam ring in Illinois, in his county, in his municipality. It probably goes on throughout the state.
[33:02.300 --> 33:10.300]  It probably goes on everywhere. However, this sort of thing can't really go on in Texas, and Eddie, you were going to say why.
[33:10.300 --> 33:12.300]  You were talking about this on the break.
[33:12.300 --> 33:23.300]  Yeah, the Transportation Code in Texas specifically forbids municipalities and counties from enacting any ordinances regarding the registration of motor vehicles.
[33:23.300 --> 33:29.300]  So they can't do anything as far as registration goes.
[33:29.300 --> 33:49.300]  Now they can enact ordinances dealing with permits, like for taxicab companies or something like that, to operate within the territorial limits of the city, but they cannot touch anything in regard to the registration or titling in any way of a motor vehicle.
[33:49.300 --> 33:54.300]  That is strictly the venue and area belonging to state authority.
[33:54.300 --> 34:09.300]  And I was saying there will probably be an Illinois statute to that effect, and then you said you researched the vehicle code there and said that the municipalities can enact specific types of ordinances, but
[34:09.300 --> 34:28.300]  I'm willing to bet if you read it a little bit closer, there's two things. There has to be a state law that supports the ordinance, and I doubt if it's going to give them the authority to enact ordinances that have the ability to interfere with actual state enacted law on the same subject matter.
[34:28.300 --> 34:39.300]  It may allow them to do things relating to it, but it's not going to allow them to do things that supersede what the state law allows.
[34:39.300 --> 35:08.300]  Right. I'm pretty sure that the language in the code more is leaning towards dealing with the situation of any kind of abandoned, derelict, or inoperable vehicle more than it does the registration, but it gives the municipality pretty broad power
[35:08.300 --> 35:18.300]  or interpretation to enact ordinances that govern any kind of vehicles on private property within the city of municipality limits.
[35:18.300 --> 35:32.300]  Now, see, this is where I think that this municipality is going to run into trouble in the higher court system because, like I was saying earlier, it's pretty much the case with every state that in a state constitution,
[35:32.300 --> 35:46.300]  there's something called an enacting clause which says that only the legislature has the authority and the power to enact law that is binding upon the citizens, and there's very good reason for that.
[35:46.300 --> 35:58.300]  Otherwise, if you don't have that, then the courts could run a muck and legislate from the bench, or you could get an executive branch that runs a muck, and basically you'd be in a situation of a dictatorship,
[35:58.300 --> 36:09.300]  but the other good reason for that enacting clause is that it prevents local municipalities from running a muck, like is the case here, or county authorities, like sheriff's departments,
[36:09.300 --> 36:20.300]  and so otherwise, if you don't have the enacting clause in the statute restricting the authority to enact law strictly to the state legislative branch,
[36:20.300 --> 36:37.300]  otherwise, why even bother having a legislature? Just let the municipalities make their own law. Anybody could. And so the fact that there is no underlying state law that authorizes municipalities to deal with the registration issue,
[36:37.300 --> 36:43.300]  I think that they're going to run into trouble and that law is not that these ordinances are not going to stand.
[36:43.300 --> 36:50.300]  Now, Eddie, I wanted to ask you quickly before we go back to Michael's story here concerning Michael brought up the point about that.
[36:50.300 --> 36:58.300]  Mainly these ordinances, from his research, it has to do with derelict or abandoned vehicles.
[36:58.300 --> 37:07.300]  Now, I know here in Austin that the city will tow an impound, quote unquote, abandoned vehicles. I see it all the time.
[37:07.300 --> 37:18.300]  You'll be going down the road and you'll see a car that's got a big giant orange sticker on the back, big bright neon, big square, like one foot by one foot on the back windshield.
[37:18.300 --> 37:26.300]  That's to indicate to the owner, hey, move it or lose it, pal, and then you'll see, yeah, about two weeks later, the car's gone.
[37:26.300 --> 37:33.300]  So how can the city of Austin do this if there's no underlying state statute or is there?
[37:33.300 --> 37:41.300]  Well, they can do that because normally those types of vehicles you're referring to, if that's what they actually are,
[37:41.300 --> 37:52.300]  are in a location that makes them dangerous to the traffic involving the general public and commerce in general because they're usually on the side of the highway
[37:52.300 --> 37:59.300]  or they're close to an exit ramp. They present a general impediment to the regular normal use and flow of traffic.
[37:59.300 --> 38:05.300]  Or they may be parked on the side of the road but not necessarily on the shoulder or something like that.
[38:05.300 --> 38:10.300]  Correct. Yeah, they can be off in a place where they actually present a danger.
[38:10.300 --> 38:19.300]  Like, for instance, if someone actually had to slam on their brakes to avoid ruining another car and had no choice but to swerve over onto the shoulder
[38:19.300 --> 38:24.300]  and here's this car parked there that shouldn't be there, they're going to hit that anyway.
[38:24.300 --> 38:31.300]  That presents a public danger. So by avoiding one accident, they're actually getting involved in another.
[38:31.300 --> 38:42.300]  Okay, but that is no excuse for the municipality to start stealing people's cars that are parked on their own private property that impose no danger
[38:42.300 --> 38:47.300]  or impediment to the general public engaged in transportation or travel.
[38:47.300 --> 38:56.300]  Right, and that's exactly why when I tell people, even when you're getting pulled over for a traffic ticket, do not pull over on the side of the road.
[38:56.300 --> 39:09.300]  Ever. Exit the roadway, the highway, whatever you're on and pull into some private parking lot or some private drive where they're not going to complain about you being there.
[39:09.300 --> 39:17.300]  That way we can't tell your car. This prevents the state. Yeah, this prevents anyone acting under the authority of traffic from towing the car legally
[39:17.300 --> 39:27.300]  because the only way they can tow the car legally is if they can show that it's a commercial vehicle that's been declared out of service under Chapter 644
[39:27.300 --> 39:32.300]  or it presents a public hazard by remaining where it is.
[39:32.300 --> 39:36.300]  Okay, very good. All right, thank you, Eddie. That's very helpful information.
[39:36.300 --> 39:45.300]  Okay, back to Michael now. Okay, Michael, so we got up to the point where you're in deposition now where you're deposing these people.
[39:45.300 --> 39:54.300]  Now, this is a deposition that you were taking from people in a federal lawsuit that you filed. Is this correct?
[39:54.300 --> 40:07.300]  Yes, in 2003, they actually came onto my private property and seized two of the three cars that I had on the property in 2003.
[40:07.300 --> 40:16.300]  Excuse me, I got them back. My mother actually got them back, did everything that she needed to do to get them back.
[40:16.300 --> 40:28.300]  And once they were on the property as a condition to have them returned, she had to purchase registration for the two cars that they took.
[40:28.300 --> 40:34.300]  And so in 2003, it was current and valid.
[40:34.300 --> 40:47.300]  In 2005, it had passed expired about six months or so. And so the city sent another notice saying that I was once again in violation of the city ordinance
[40:47.300 --> 40:53.300]  because the registration that had been purchased in 2003 was once again expired.
[40:53.300 --> 41:09.300]  And in 2005, whenever this all took place, I was in the local area. So I had taken the advice of a local attorney that I had contacted to find out what my rights were and what I needed to do.
[41:09.300 --> 41:16.300]  And he advised me not to worry about the 10-day notice and just wait until they had issued a ticket.
[41:16.300 --> 41:33.300]  And no tickets came. And once again, they came onto the private property while I was not at home and seized the same two cars and left the third car behind just like they had done in 2003.
[41:33.300 --> 41:56.300]  And what's significant about that is that in the language of their ordinance, they claim that the ordinance exists to eliminate junk and dilapidated motor vehicles from the city municipality to protect the health, the safety and the well-being of the residents.
[41:56.300 --> 42:11.300]  What I say is what's interesting is that the two cars that they seized on both occasions were 60s Buicks that I was in the process of restoring.
[42:11.300 --> 42:20.300]  And the motors had already been restored and rebuilt. And they were in real good shape. They were well on their way to being restored.
[42:20.300 --> 42:33.300]  And the third car that was on the property was a 60s Osmobile. And the Osmobile had been wrecked. The wrecked parts had been dismantled.
[42:33.300 --> 42:45.300]  And while it was sitting there, the car had been vandalized. So it was in really rough shape. It would be what they would consider to be a junk car.
[42:45.300 --> 42:54.300]  Now to me, it wasn't junk. It still has value to me. It's my private property for one thing and it's still a good old car.
[42:54.300 --> 43:12.300]  But if their goal was to eliminate junk and abandoned cars for the health, safety and the well-being of the residents, the Osmobile would more comply with what they were trying to do if that was their goal.
[43:12.300 --> 43:23.300]  The whole thing is ridiculous. This is the sort of thing that I call the grass police ordinances for the health and safety and welfare and well-being of the people.
[43:23.300 --> 43:30.300]  If it's sitting on your private property, how is it harming anybody else's health or safety or well-being?
[43:30.300 --> 43:48.300]  The scenario that Eddie described, like a car on the shoulder of a highway, that is an impediment to somebody's health or safety or well-being if they're trying to pull over or if a car is parked in a lane or something like that.
[43:48.300 --> 44:01.300]  But sitting on your private property, I'm sorry. The state run amok. We'll be right back, folks.
[44:19.300 --> 44:26.300]  D&T Catherine Mallet also overheard one agent say to another, close, is that why we got the page to not come in today, end quote.
[44:26.300 --> 44:33.300]  Bruce Shaw, as interviewed on KS4RTV, was also told by ATF agents that they had been paged to not come in to work.
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[46:29.300 --> 46:36.300]  Okay, folks, we are back with our very special guest, Mr. Michael Allison.
[46:36.300 --> 46:41.300]  Now, for those who may be just tuning in, brief little recap here.
[46:41.300 --> 47:02.300]  Michael Allison was facing 75 years in prison for illegal wiretapping charges for audio recording the police in Illinois in relation to his discovery of this car title scam theft ring that we've been discussing.
[47:02.300 --> 47:12.300]  And he had filed a federal lawsuit, which we're going to continue to talk about this federal lawsuit in this segment, and what else you found in deposition.
[47:12.300 --> 47:16.300]  So, Eddie, did you want to ask your question first?
[47:16.300 --> 47:25.300]  Well, yeah, in relation to what the sheriff and these towing companies are doing, I'm sure you're a towing attorney if he's worth assault has considered this.
[47:25.300 --> 47:40.300]  But when we're dealing with why these people are engaged in this activity, have you done any discovery to determine whether or not the sheriff's office is being paid any fees for the generation of this title paperwork?
[47:40.300 --> 47:55.300]  Are they in any way taking a cut of the sale? Because from what you stated before we went to break, it is very obvious that they're doing selective enforcement only on cars that have resale value to them.
[47:55.300 --> 48:21.300]  Yes. And I've specifically tried to get in my discovery that that information about where the cars are going, who gets paid through the who profits from this, whether they keep the car, sell the car, or it's chopped up just like any other kind of an illegal chop shop might do.
[48:21.300 --> 48:43.300]  I wanted to find out where the money is going. And basically, as the case progressed, the time for discovery had lapsed through some kind of a technical technicality that my attorney submitted a document that wasn't signed proper or whatever.
[48:43.300 --> 49:04.300]  And whenever the opposition attorney required it to be redone, it was done outside the time of discovery so that basically whenever the discovery request was made again, the opposition attorney said, well, now the discovery is closed and you're not getting anything.
[49:04.300 --> 49:15.300]  So that's what forced my hand to voluntarily dismiss the case in order to refile it and try to get all my deadlines for discovery restarted.
[49:15.300 --> 49:38.300]  And so I went about it the second go around of refiling the case and requesting discovery and everything was done exactly the way it should have been. And the magistrate judge cited against me in the opposition and completely throughout my request for discovery basically saying that my request for discovery
[49:38.300 --> 49:53.300]  and my request for motion to compel them to produce discovery was moot. And that threw my whole case into basically a situation where the case was in peril.
[49:53.300 --> 50:13.300]  And it was going to be basically a completely waste of time the second go around. And as a result of that, I turned it back over to an attorney that had originally filed it and told him to take it to the end of the case.
[50:13.300 --> 50:24.300]  And whatever the outcome of the case is, I'm going to file it in the Court of Appeals because I was cheated out of my discovery.
[50:24.300 --> 50:32.300]  Even the basic questions like you were asking, where is the money going? Who's getting a cut of this? They refused to answer it.
[50:32.300 --> 50:52.300]  They answered every question by saying that it was overbroad, burdensome, irrelevant, immaterial and would not lead to any evidence that I can't remember the exact technical language of it.
[50:52.300 --> 51:05.300]  But they were basically saying that every question that I had that was relevant to the case was irrelevant and immaterial and overbroad and burdensome for them to answer it.
[51:05.300 --> 51:10.300]  So they just answered it by saying that statement over and over and over again for every question.
[51:10.300 --> 51:22.300]  And this magistrate sided with them, unfortunately. The magistrate judge sided with them and whenever I made a motion to compel, he said that my motion to compel was moot.
[51:22.300 --> 51:32.300]  Now, I don't understand how a motion to compel to get discovery according to the federal rules of civil procedure could be moot in an ongoing case.
[51:32.300 --> 51:40.300]  These magistrates are very difficult to deal with and that's why I'm not an attorney.
[51:40.300 --> 51:46.300]  This is a federal case that he filed for violation of his rights.
[51:46.300 --> 51:51.300]  Harmon is very adamant that you don't accept a federal magistrate.
[51:51.300 --> 52:05.300]  And what I tell people, never deal with a magistrate if at all possible, and what I tell people, and I'm not an attorney, I can't give legal advice, but I always file and at the same time that I file a petition in federal court as a plaintiff or if I'm a defendant, it doesn't matter.
[52:05.300 --> 52:11.300]  The very first document I file, one of the first documents I file, is an objection to non-judicial decision making.
[52:11.300 --> 52:15.300]  No magistrates, no clerks on the case.
[52:15.300 --> 52:23.300]  And so that's always the first thing. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, but yeah, these magistrates don't know what they're doing or they're totally corrupt.
[52:23.300 --> 52:25.300]  It's much better to deal with a real judge.
[52:25.300 --> 52:37.300]  Okay, so you went through the case the second time and now you are looking for an attorney to help you so you can file the third time because the case was dismissed without prejudice, which means fortunately you can file it again.
[52:37.300 --> 52:50.300]  So another purpose of this show, point of the show, is that Michael Allison is making a plea here to find an attorney who would help him sue under his, you know, sue for civil rights.
[52:50.300 --> 53:06.300]  You know, we've got all these statues, like you're saying in section 1983, so that he can take this into federal court because one of the downfalls of this, even though he won the criminal case against him, unfortunately this Illinois law is still in the books.
[53:06.300 --> 53:13.300]  They could still do this to other people. They are still doing this to other people, and so the only way to get this struck down is in federal court.
[53:13.300 --> 53:16.300]  And so that's where he is going with this.
[53:16.300 --> 53:22.300]  Now, Michael, can you tell us what else did you find out about this car title scan?
[53:22.300 --> 53:44.300]  Basically, like you were saying about the actual abandoned vehicle that is abandoned on the side of the road, and they put the orange sticker on it that everybody's seen, big bright orange sticker saying that you have a certain period of time to remove the vehicle from the side of the road or side of the highway.
[53:44.300 --> 54:13.300]  In that instance, that vehicle is considered an abandoned vehicle, and so what I discovered was that whenever the Sheriff's Department gets involved with this doing the paperwork and the certificate of purchase, the Sheriff's Department is swearing under oath and affirming whenever they submit this document.
[54:13.300 --> 54:30.300]  To the state of Illinois that this vehicle, this particular vehicle that they're wanting to get a title for was, and the wording is that it was an abandoned, comma, lost, comma, stolen, comma.
[54:30.300 --> 54:39.300]  I'm not looking at this document myself right now, so I'm just getting close to the general language of it.
[54:39.300 --> 54:57.300]  They're basically saying that it's a lost, stolen, or abandoned vehicle, and what that would entail is that they are claiming that this vehicle was basically on the side of the road, and it complied with the idea of the fact that they did a background check on it.
[54:57.300 --> 55:13.300]  They found out that it was actually an abandoned vehicle, or it was lost or stolen, and came into their possession by them having to tow it from that city property or state highway or wherever they're saying that it came from.
[55:13.300 --> 55:24.300]  So what they're doing is fraudulently affirming that this vehicle that they actually ordered seized from private property.
[55:24.300 --> 55:43.300]  They're claiming that it was an abandoned, lost, or stolen vehicle, and they came into possession of it, legally and lawfully, and according to the statutes, and so now they are claiming they have a legal right to obtain a title through a certificate of purchase.
[55:43.300 --> 56:11.300]  So that's how the Sheriff's Department is getting the titles if they're doing it that way, and then if they choose to, the towing company can get the title through a mechanics lean or storage lean by falsely affirming under oath that he's obtained this title through a lean that was generated for some service provided
[56:11.300 --> 56:17.300]  or work performed on the vehicle done at the request of the vehicle owner.
[56:17.300 --> 56:42.300]  So in the instance of the mechanics lean and storage lean, they're basically saying that in my case, they would be saying that if they had a legitimate lean against my car and wanted the title for that car, that they're saying that I myself requested the car to be towed and didn't pay the towing bill,
[56:42.300 --> 57:04.300]  and therefore he has a legitimate lean, and the state forms on the form itself specifically, and you're affirming to this language that the request was made for some service provided or work performed, and that request was made at the request of the vehicle owner.
[57:04.300 --> 57:23.300]  And so they're falsely affirming, which entails fraud, they're fraudulently and falsely affirming that I myself requested some service provided, which gave them the right to generate a legitimate lean to obtain this title.
[57:23.300 --> 57:39.300]  And they send that paperwork to Springfield, and the Springfield office does not know that it's fraud, so they go about the process of producing what they consider a legitimate title for a stolen vehicle.
[57:39.300 --> 57:52.300]  Oh my. Well, this sounds like it's time for criminal charges against the tow truck company owners or whoever is signing these bogus affidavits. They're lying under penalty of perjury.
[57:52.300 --> 57:59.300]  Exactly. It's definitely, it's perjury, it's fraud, and they know what they're doing is illegal.
[57:59.300 --> 58:04.300]  Are you including these tow truck people in your lawsuit, in your federal lawsuit?
[58:04.300 --> 58:12.300]  I named the one that actually seized my car on both occasions. He's named as a defendant in the lawsuit.
[58:12.300 --> 58:14.300]  Well, good for you.
[58:14.300 --> 58:43.300]  Okay, folks, we are speaking with a very special guest, Mr. Michael Allison. He has made headline news, national headline news over the last several weeks because he was facing 75 years in prison on illegal wiretapping charges for recording the police during the process of him while he was exposing this illegal car title scam ring that we have been discussing for the last hour.
[58:43.300 --> 58:56.300]  When we get back on the other side, we are going to continue on and we're going to talk about what actually happened regarding the recording of the police and what happened next and what we can do about it. We'll be right back, folks.
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[01:00:27.300 --> 01:00:42.300]  First gang member Lawrence Brewer was executed Wednesday in Huntsville, Texas for the infamous slaying of James Byrd, a black man from East Texas. Byrd was chained to the back of a pickup truck and pulled to his death along a bumpy road.
[01:00:42.300 --> 01:00:49.300]  Codefendant John King, who was also convicted of capital murder, is appealing the death sentence.
[01:00:49.300 --> 01:01:02.300]  Americans Josh Fatal and Shane Bauer, released from an Iranian prison after more than two years behind bars accused of spies, arrived Wednesday in Oman under a $1 million bail for freedom deal.
[01:01:02.300 --> 01:01:08.300]  Bauer called for freedom for political prisoners in America and Iran.
[01:01:08.300 --> 01:01:25.300]  On Wednesday, executed Troy Davis, a black man accused of killing a white police officer, a crime he denied committing to the end. A large crowd gathered outside the prison in Jackson erupted in cheers as the execution scheduled for 7pm was halted by the US Supreme Court.
[01:01:25.300 --> 01:01:41.300]  Four hours later, it rejected a stay of execution. Moments before he was executed, Davis said, I am innocent, I did not have a gun. Seven of nine key witnesses against Davis changed or recanted their testimony and no forensic evidence tied Davis to the crime.
[01:01:41.300 --> 01:01:57.300]  Shortly before his execution, Davis said, for those about to take my life, may God have mercy on your souls, adding, the struggle for justice doesn't end with me. This struggle is for all the Troy Davises who came before me and all the ones who will come after me.
[01:01:57.300 --> 01:02:13.300]  Addressing the UN General Assembly Wednesday, Barack Obama expressed frustration at the Palestinians' decision to seek full membership of the UN. Obama said, Palestinians need to live in a sovereign state of their own. Their vision has been delayed for too long.
[01:02:13.300 --> 01:02:27.300]  Yet America's commitment to Israel's security is unshakable and our friendship with it is enduring. Members of the General Assembly, where pro-Palestinian sentiment is high, had only a muted response to Obama's speech.
[01:02:27.300 --> 01:02:44.300]  Obama later told Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas the US would veto any Security Council move to recognize Palestinian statehood. Earlier tens of thousands of people gathered in Ramallah and Nablus in the occupied West Bank in a show of support for the Palestinian bid.
[01:02:44.300 --> 01:02:53.300]  UN recognition would be largely symbolic for Palestinians long occupied by Israel who view the bid as an assertion of their basic rights.
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[01:04:13.300 --> 01:04:39.300]  Tonight is Thursday, September 22nd, 2011. I am Deborah Stevens. I'm here with my esteemed co-host, Randy Kelton and Eddie Craig. We are also here with a very special guest for those of you who are just tuning in at the top of the hour.
[01:04:39.300 --> 01:05:01.300]  We have a very special guest, Mr. Michael Allison. Michael Allison made national headline news over the last several weeks concerning the fact that he was facing up to 75 years in prison for illegal wiretapping violations for recording the police in Bridgeport, Illinois.
[01:05:01.300 --> 01:05:26.300]  We have been discussing for the past hour what led up to this. We're not quite there to the actual filming of the police, recording of the police, but he's been discussing that actually what led up to this was his breaking, his exposing of this illegal car title scam ring by the tow truck owners, the tow truck companies, the sheriff's department, the municipality and the state of Illinois.
[01:05:26.300 --> 01:05:40.300]  And so we've been discussing this and what he found out in deposition regarding these federal lawsuits that he filed that he subsequently had to withdraw for some various technical legal reasons. You can go back and listen to the archive to get the details on that.
[01:05:40.300 --> 01:05:59.300]  And he is making a plea for an attorney to help him file this suit again. And of course there are three various statutes that can be, that you can file under, that he did file under. One of them is Title 28, Section 1343, Civil Rights Violations.
[01:05:59.300 --> 01:06:17.300]  Also Title 42, Section 1983, Civil Action for Deprivation of Rights. And you could even go Title 18, Section 242, Deprivation of Rights under color of law. We'll be discussing some more of the legal remedies later this hour at this point in time.
[01:06:17.300 --> 01:06:38.300]  And we're also going to get Randy's take on it as well because of course a lot of criminal charges could be filed here for fraud, for filing bogus liens and all these sorts of things. But at this point in time, Michael, you wanted to finish up on the title issue and make the transition into recording the police and there are multiple counties involved.
[01:06:38.300 --> 01:06:41.300]  So please continue with your story.
[01:06:41.300 --> 01:07:03.300]  Okay. After I had discovered the way that they were fraudulently and illegally obtaining titles to these stolen cars, and I still had a pending lawsuit filed in my original lawsuit that was filed in 2005, was still pending at that time.
[01:07:03.300 --> 01:07:21.300]  But I did not have an attorney. I had already tried to get an attorney to replace the original attorney because it was technically his responsibility to get the discovery and fail to do so.
[01:07:21.300 --> 01:07:35.300]  And when he said that he was going to go forward even without the discovery and just take what he could get, I said that that's not acceptable and basically we parted ways.
[01:07:35.300 --> 01:07:55.300]  And I wanted to try to find a more aggressive attorney that could really dig into this thing and expose it for what it was. And so what ultimately led to the fact that I was operating without an attorney at the time,
[01:07:55.300 --> 01:08:17.300]  trying to get the discovery and the documents and everything under the idea that I was still entitled to it, and the court ultimately ruled against me, but I had already submitted paperwork to the court laying out what I had discovered
[01:08:17.300 --> 01:08:31.300]  and basically asking the court for a leave of court to file an amended complaint to add a RICO charge where I was actually going to allege racketeering, extortion, and vehicle theft,
[01:08:31.300 --> 01:08:40.300]  and add other defendants and request more discovery to be able to prove this aspect of the case.
[01:08:40.300 --> 01:09:00.300]  So the court ultimately ruled against me saying that the time for discovery had lapsed and that I didn't make my request under that time period, so therefore discovery was closed and they were going to go forward and have me go forward with the case
[01:09:00.300 --> 01:09:19.300]  without obtaining all of this discovery. And I was prepared for them to make that ruling, so I had already pre-prepared a motion to voluntarily dismiss the case with the intent to refile it and everything would automatically restart
[01:09:19.300 --> 01:09:38.300]  and my discovery time would be all restored by refiling the case. So I voluntarily dismissed the case and they granted that motion and exactly 71 days after I had dismissed the case against Bridgeport,
[01:09:38.300 --> 01:09:51.300]  I believe that everyone involved assumed that I had lost the case and it was all done and over with and they weren't held accountable for any of the action that they had taken against me
[01:09:51.300 --> 01:10:02.300]  and they were not forced to pay any damages. It was basically like the lawsuit was a waste of time in their opinion.
[01:10:02.300 --> 01:10:20.300]  That's my opinion of what they might be thinking because the actions that followed exactly 71 days after I had dismissed the case, I was in my mother's backyard and I saw a Robinson, she lives in the city of Robinson in Crawford County
[01:10:20.300 --> 01:10:35.300]  and I was in the process of working on and restoring a car that my mother actually owned. It was in her driveway and it was a 1987 Cadillac and I was rebuilding and restoring the motor in the car.
[01:10:35.300 --> 01:10:50.300]  It was a nice good old car and it had a problem with the motor so I tore it down and was going to rebuild it. So I was in the backyard and I saw a police car, a Robinson City police car roll up in front of the house.
[01:10:50.300 --> 01:11:05.300]  I went up there and the police officer said that the two vehicles that were parked in the driveway were in violation of the city ordinance that requires the vehicles to be registered.
[01:11:05.300 --> 01:11:26.300]  I said I know what this is all about. I've dealt with the same situation in the city of Bridgeport and I said if you take any action against me, if you force me to pay a fine or remove the cars or any action at all is taken against me in enforcing this ordinance,
[01:11:26.300 --> 01:11:43.300]  I'm going to sue you in federal court the same way that I had sued Bridgeport and I basically let them know that I was going to expose their little extortion scheme, their vehicle theft and extortion racket that they've been running just like I did against the city of Bridgeport.
[01:11:43.300 --> 01:12:05.300]  I believe at that point they saw that as a veiled threat without any kind of backup merit to it because they all knew that my case against the city of Bridgeport had been dismissed and I believe that's the reason they were in the process of retaliation.
[01:12:05.300 --> 01:12:24.300]  I don't think that they thought that I had any way to fight back and if I had then I wouldn't have dismissed the case. So I think it was a clear case of retaliation and they were going to do whatever they wanted to do and they figured there wasn't anything I could do about it.
[01:12:24.300 --> 01:12:45.300]  So the first time this took place it took me by surprise, I wasn't expecting it. But afterwards when I realized this is going to be an ongoing situation, I wanted to do whatever I needed to do to document anything that was going to take place.
[01:12:45.300 --> 01:13:10.300]  So I started basically carrying a digital recorder and trying to have it available for any aspect of the enforcement of this bogus ordinance and any threats, intimidation directed towards me and also to capture any kind of evidence of crimes being committed.
[01:13:10.300 --> 01:13:29.300]  Because at that point in time I was convinced that this was a criminal conspiracy to steal the vehicles and illegally convert the titles of those vehicles and not only that but to extort cash in the form of fines, towing fees and impound storage fees.
[01:13:29.300 --> 01:13:42.300]  So whenever I started documenting each incident that came up afterwards, which ultimately they wrote out a citation that sent me to a court in Crawford County.
[01:13:42.300 --> 01:13:59.300]  And the very day before the court hearing I went to the circuit clerk and requested a court reporter because I believed that the bogus, the citation was wrote out by the cops bogus.
[01:13:59.300 --> 01:14:19.300]  It was a bogus citation without merit because the ordinance in Robinson governs real property located in the city of Robinson for residents or property owners and they issued this citation to me and it was without merit and without jurisdiction.
[01:14:19.300 --> 01:14:32.300]  And I believed the whole thing was a setup and that I wasn't going to receive any kind of justice in this court and so I wanted to document the court hearing also.
[01:14:32.300 --> 01:14:38.300]  And so I requested a court reporter and my request was denied.
[01:14:38.300 --> 01:14:43.300]  Now was this supposed to be a court of record under law, under statute?
[01:14:43.300 --> 01:14:54.300]  As far as what I've dug into the information I think that the municipal court may not be a court of record.
[01:14:54.300 --> 01:15:05.300]  So I think that if that's the case they're not technically required to make a record of the court proceedings but I could be wrong.
[01:15:05.300 --> 01:15:30.300]  I don't know the legalities of that but if that is the case I think that if they have some kind of a court rules or something that says that they're not required to make a record I think in that instance the citizens should have a right to make their own record.
[01:15:30.300 --> 01:15:36.300]  And they forbid you from bringing in your own court reporters, is that correct?
[01:15:36.300 --> 01:15:43.300]  Yes, I found out later you're not even allowed to hire your own court reporter in the courtroom.
[01:15:43.300 --> 01:16:07.300]  If you were to hire an actual court reporter I found out from actually trying to hire a court reporter later on in the court proceedings that followed that every time I tried to find out if I could hire this one or that one I was told by the court reporter themselves
[01:16:07.300 --> 01:16:28.300]  that they're not allowed to go into a courtroom and make an actual record of the court hearing because they're only to be hired in a private setting and the courts have their own reporters that are assigned to each court to make the official record.
[01:16:28.300 --> 01:16:37.300]  And so I was told by the court reporter that they couldn't be hired to make an actual public record.
[01:16:37.300 --> 01:16:50.300]  Okay, hold that thought right there. If the municipality is not a court of record then generally what happens is that when you go to the appeal it would be a trial de novo but I understand the concern to want to have it documented.
[01:16:50.300 --> 01:16:59.300]  Alright, when we get back we're going to continue talking with Michael Allison, very special guest. We'll be right back.
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[01:19:29.300 --> 01:19:33.300]  A very special guest, Mr. Michael Allison.
[01:19:33.300 --> 01:19:36.300]  He's telling his story.
[01:19:36.300 --> 01:19:42.300]  So apparently Michael, you had received some kind of infraction tickets.
[01:19:42.300 --> 01:19:48.300]  You were accused of an infraction that is in Rockport, is that correct?
[01:19:48.300 --> 01:19:49.300]  That's Robinson.
[01:19:49.300 --> 01:20:05.300]  Robinson, I'm sorry, Robinson for having vehicles on the property that were unregistered, et cetera, inoperable and you were fighting this in court and you wanted a court reporter there.
[01:20:05.300 --> 01:20:07.300]  They denied that there would be a court reporter.
[01:20:07.300 --> 01:20:15.300]  They told you you couldn't have your own court reporter and you weren't clear or you're not clear on whether or not that is a court of record.
[01:20:15.300 --> 01:20:20.300]  And as I was saying before the break, generally in municipalities, they're either a court of record or they're not.
[01:20:20.300 --> 01:20:32.300]  And if they're not a court of record, generally the procedure is when you go to do your appeal instead of appealing using the record, you would have a trial de novo, which basically means a brand new trial at the appellate level.
[01:20:32.300 --> 01:20:37.300]  But at any rate, you wanted a court reporter there one way or the other.
[01:20:37.300 --> 01:20:38.300]  They wouldn't give it to you.
[01:20:38.300 --> 01:20:48.300]  They told you it was illegal for you to bring your own in and now I don't see how they could enforce such a thing or how a law could even like that could even stand.
[01:20:48.300 --> 01:20:56.300]  I mean, courts are open to the public so anybody could come in and bring a pen and paper and take shorthand notes if they wanted to.
[01:20:56.300 --> 01:21:05.300]  So then to tell you that you can't bring somebody in there to take notes, whether a stenography or otherwise, I don't see how that could possibly stand.
[01:21:05.300 --> 01:21:12.300]  But at any rate, that's what they told you. You're talking to this clerk and you had a recorder, so please continue.
[01:21:12.300 --> 01:21:18.300]  And then we're going to transition from this to how you actually got charged with the wiretapping.
[01:21:18.300 --> 01:21:19.300]  So please continue.
[01:21:19.300 --> 01:21:31.300]  Okay. Just to clarify, when I was talking to the circuit clerk, at that point in time, she never said that I couldn't bring my own court reporter.
[01:21:31.300 --> 01:21:42.300]  That came up later on after they had taken action against me and the actual arrest and all of that followed.
[01:21:42.300 --> 01:21:45.300]  That came up out of that whole instance.
[01:21:45.300 --> 01:22:00.300]  But at the time, I was using my digital recorder as basically a visual aid to make it plain that I wanted a record made of this court hearing
[01:22:00.300 --> 01:22:02.300]  that was going to take place the next day.
[01:22:02.300 --> 01:22:10.300]  And even though the recorder was turned off at the time, I was not recording the conversation with the circuit clerk.
[01:22:10.300 --> 01:22:17.300]  But I did make it plain that I wanted a record made of this court hearing after she had already denied my request.
[01:22:17.300 --> 01:22:32.300]  And I re-requested by stating I want a record made of this court hearing because I intend to sue the city, the city police, the city attorney, and everybody who's had anything to do with this whole ordinance enforcement
[01:22:32.300 --> 01:22:45.300]  and vehicle theft scheme that has been perpetrated and is exactly the same situation I've dealt with the city of Bridgeport.
[01:22:45.300 --> 01:22:53.300]  And I told them that I was going to sue them the same way that I did the city of Bridgeport and I wanted a record made of this court hearing.
[01:22:53.300 --> 01:22:59.300]  So she denied it once again and that was basically where it was left.
[01:22:59.300 --> 01:23:05.300]  And she didn't specifically tell me that I could not record it myself.
[01:23:05.300 --> 01:23:07.300]  That's one point.
[01:23:07.300 --> 01:23:10.300]  Some of the reports have been wrong on that.
[01:23:10.300 --> 01:23:13.300]  I didn't tell them that I was going to record it specifically.
[01:23:13.300 --> 01:23:18.300]  But I just made the request and she assumed that I was going to record it.
[01:23:18.300 --> 01:23:26.300]  And by assuming so, she didn't bother to tell me that recording that court hearing would be prohibited.
[01:23:26.300 --> 01:23:40.300]  So what she did do was the very next day she had previously informed the judge, the sheriff deputy who was acting as a bailiff,
[01:23:40.300 --> 01:23:51.300]  the clerk that was in the courtroom, and the city attorney who was prosecuting the alleged ordinance violation against me.
[01:23:51.300 --> 01:23:56.300]  All of the people in that courtroom knew what was about to happen.
[01:23:56.300 --> 01:24:06.300]  Whenever I walked through the door of that courtroom that day, they had a clear situation that they had a meeting of the minds
[01:24:06.300 --> 01:24:15.300]  where they colluded and conspired before that hearing took place the very next day and set this whole thing up.
[01:24:15.300 --> 01:24:25.300]  And as soon as I walked through the door of that courtroom, I was in the process of putting my recorder in my pocket while I was facing the judge.
[01:24:25.300 --> 01:24:29.300]  And the judge was looking right at me when I put it in my pocket.
[01:24:29.300 --> 01:24:33.300]  And she asked me, do you have a recording device on you?
[01:24:33.300 --> 01:24:36.300]  And I said yes. And she said yes, it turned on.
[01:24:36.300 --> 01:24:38.300]  And I said yes.
[01:24:38.300 --> 01:24:42.300]  She read the Illinois eavesdropping statute she had laid out on the desk.
[01:24:42.300 --> 01:24:49.300]  It was already open to the page right out of the Illinois eavesdropping, I mean out of the Illinois compiled statutes.
[01:24:49.300 --> 01:24:58.300]  She had the eavesdropping statute open to the page already prepared for me to walk through that door with that recorder.
[01:24:58.300 --> 01:25:14.300]  So after she quoted the statute, she told me and informed me that I had just committed a Class 1 felony offense of eavesdropping against her personally
[01:25:14.300 --> 01:25:21.300]  because I did not get her permission to record her and that I violated her right to privacy in that courtroom.
[01:25:21.300 --> 01:25:23.300]  Right to privacy.
[01:25:23.300 --> 01:25:30.300]  That's what she said. She said that I violated her right to privacy. And I was in an open court hearing.
[01:25:30.300 --> 01:25:41.300]  Right. Well, see, this is one reason why these bogus, outrageous, wiretapping laws are going to eventually get overturned
[01:25:41.300 --> 01:25:46.300]  because of the doctrine concerning being in public.
[01:25:46.300 --> 01:25:51.300]  When you're in public, you do not have a right to privacy.
[01:25:51.300 --> 01:26:02.300]  Now, whatever you say, now if you're leaning over in a corner in a restaurant whispering to somebody, you have a somewhat reasonable expectation of privacy.
[01:26:02.300 --> 01:26:13.300]  But when you're in open public and you're like on a megaphone or something or in a courtroom where everything you're saying is being heard by everyone around
[01:26:13.300 --> 01:26:21.300]  are at a place giving a seminar, you do not have a reasonable expectation of privacy. And so it's just preposterous.
[01:26:21.300 --> 01:26:23.300]  But anyway, continue, please.
[01:26:23.300 --> 01:26:30.300]  After she informed me, I mean, it has stunned me to even hear what she was saying.
[01:26:30.300 --> 01:26:37.300]  She said that I had just committed a Class 1 felony and when I heard that, I couldn't even believe what I was hearing.
[01:26:37.300 --> 01:26:49.300]  And when I realized what they were all doing, you know, how big this whole thing had gotten, I just couldn't believe my ears.
[01:26:49.300 --> 01:26:56.300]  And I listened to her while she read the statute and everything and the Class 1 felony and all of that.
[01:26:56.300 --> 01:27:09.300]  After she got done doing all of her whole thing that she was in the process of doing, she told me to turn the recorder off.
[01:27:09.300 --> 01:27:20.300]  And it took me a while to come to grips with the whole situation and whenever I thought about it, I thought, I can't believe what's taking place.
[01:27:20.300 --> 01:27:32.300]  But I feel the need to try to explain my side of the situation here. So I told her, I said, the only reason that I brought this, and I was saying the recorder,
[01:27:32.300 --> 01:27:41.300]  is because I came up to the courtroom the day before and the circuit clerk denied my request for a court report.
[01:27:41.300 --> 01:27:55.300]  So she said that she did not give her consent to being recorded and that I had violated her right to privacy and then she told me to turn it off again so I turned it off.
[01:27:55.300 --> 01:28:05.300]  So once I had made it plain that that was the only reason that I brought the recorder was because my request for a court reporter was denied.
[01:28:05.300 --> 01:28:16.300]  The judge had the clerk that was already in the courtroom go over to the other side of the courtroom and start taking down a record of the court area.
[01:28:16.300 --> 01:28:25.300]  So even after my request for a court reporter had been denied, they went ahead and started making a record of this bogus court area.
[01:28:25.300 --> 01:28:26.300]  Interesting.
[01:28:26.300 --> 01:28:34.300]  Okay, so then they made a record. So then what happened? Did you lose the case and then you tried to appeal or what?
[01:28:34.300 --> 01:28:43.300]  This was just a first appearance on this ordinance violation and so it was not a trial of any sort.
[01:28:43.300 --> 01:28:49.300]  It was just a procedural hearing.
[01:28:49.300 --> 01:29:13.300]  So after the judge had basically said that this is what's interesting about it is she's just claimed that I had just committed a crime, an alleged crime, and that she's allegedly the victim of this crime.
[01:29:13.300 --> 01:29:25.300]  But she didn't bother to have me immediately arrested and she didn't bother to recuse herself from any kind of a conflict of interest after saying that she's a victim of this alleged crime.
[01:29:25.300 --> 01:29:42.300]  So she goes ahead with this hearing and at the end of the hearing, after she set a date for a bench trial, she tells me I'm free to go and then a sheriff deputy stops me at the door and says you're under arrest for eavesdropping.
[01:29:42.300 --> 01:29:56.300]  Oh my goodness. Okay. All right. Well, we're going to break right now. We'll be back on the other side with a very special guest, Michael Allison, who did end up beating the charge against him for wiretapping concerning recording public servants.
[01:29:56.300 --> 01:30:20.300]  We'll be right back.
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[01:30:30.300 --> 01:30:46.300]  Ohio Congressman Steve Shabbat faced angry protesters at a town hall meeting in Avondale, Ohio. What to do? Elis the local police is your own private army to confiscate cameras. I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht and I'll be right back with the story.
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[01:31:15.300 --> 01:31:28.300]  In this day of YouTube, you can't be too careful, or so thought Representative Steve Shabbat when he faced angry protesters at a town hall meeting. He was so worried about looking bad online that he had his staff pre-screen all questions.
[01:31:28.300 --> 01:31:33.300]  Many of the signs put up prohibiting cameras, quote, for security purposes.
[01:31:33.300 --> 01:31:49.300]  Obediently, police confiscated cameras from two middle-aged constituents and forced them to leave the meeting. Of course, cameras only posed a, quote, security threat to Shabbat's ego. Preventing the public from documenting government meetings has made Shabbat look especially bad on the Internet.
[01:31:49.300 --> 01:31:53.300]  Too bad for him, his camera censorship plan backfired.
[01:31:53.300 --> 01:32:04.300]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[01:32:23.300 --> 01:32:52.300]  Alright folks, we are back.
[01:32:52.300 --> 01:33:07.300]  Speaking with a very special guest, Mr. Michael Allison, he was facing up to 75 years in prison for wiretapping violations for recording public servants. He beat that.
[01:33:07.300 --> 01:33:28.300]  He is also going to be refiling his federal lawsuit. Okay, so Michael, we're up to the point in the case. This was like a pretrial or some first-appearance type of hearing in the municipal court concerning one of these alleged infractions of having an unregistered vehicle on property or whatever.
[01:33:28.300 --> 01:33:47.300]  This ridiculous grass police type of ordinances and you wanted it to be a court of record. You brought in this recorder, this audio recorder. The judge reads you the statute. They proceed with the hearing. You turned it off when she asked you to and then she says you're free to go.
[01:33:47.300 --> 01:33:54.300]  And then the bailiff, this was a sheriff's deputy, arrests you for violating the wiretapping statute.
[01:33:54.300 --> 01:34:08.300]  After the sheriff's deputy said you're under arrest for eavesdropping, I said, I tried to reason with him. I said, you know, if that hit me like a rock too, I couldn't believe that that was even happening.
[01:34:08.300 --> 01:34:25.300]  But I responded by saying she told me to turn it off and I turned it off. So he said you're under arrest for eavesdropping yesterday with the circuit clerk and for eavesdropping about a week ago with the city attorney secretary.
[01:34:25.300 --> 01:34:41.300]  So whenever he was reaching for his handcuffs and he said, am I going to have any problem? And I said, no, you're not going to have any problem. I said, I can't believe this is even happening, but you're not going to have any problem.
[01:34:41.300 --> 01:34:53.300]  You do whatever you got to do. So he didn't put me in handcuffs, but he escorted me straight from the courthouse to the Crawford County Jail and put me behind bars for the first time in my entire life.
[01:34:53.300 --> 01:35:07.300]  I'd ever been arrested and put behind bars. And so the way that it happened afterwards, my mother was in the courtroom and witnessed the whole thing.
[01:35:07.300 --> 01:35:16.300]  And she left and went home to try to make phone calls to find out what to do and how to get me out of jail.
[01:35:16.300 --> 01:35:25.300]  And so she called the state's attorney's office and she was told that I was going to be released and to go pick me up.
[01:35:25.300 --> 01:35:42.300]  So what they told me was that the same sheriff deputy who arrested me came back to the jail cell and told me through the bars that I was going to be released and in about a week they were going to issue a warrant for my arrest and that they were going to arrest me again.
[01:35:42.300 --> 01:35:53.300]  So I told him, I said, that doesn't make any sense to me. I'm already under arrest. I'm already here. Why are you going to release me and then arrest me again?
[01:35:53.300 --> 01:36:03.300]  And he wouldn't elaborate. He only repeated what he had already said. And so eventually after about an hour they released me and they kept my recorder.
[01:36:03.300 --> 01:36:11.300]  And I specifically asked for my recorder back and they said that it was going to be kept and used as evidence.
[01:36:11.300 --> 01:36:29.300]  So what followed was that they went through that recorder after keeping it, after letting me go and found every instance that was on the recorder where they wanted to hit me with a charge and that's where the five felony counts came from.
[01:36:29.300 --> 01:36:46.300]  Because you had recorded, and this is an audio recording, it wasn't actually like video or film, you had recorded audio of every encounter with all these rogue municipal public servants and probably also had you recorded any of the interactions with the tow truck people as well?
[01:36:46.300 --> 01:37:05.300]  In this instance there was no tow truck that got involved directly because I had voluntarily, not necessarily voluntarily, I removed the cars from my mother's property to keep them from being able to actually come on the property and seize them.
[01:37:05.300 --> 01:37:22.300]  Well question, did they ever get a warrant to search this recorder? No, they did obtain a warrant after they seized the recorder and they obtained the warrant to go through the recorder after it was already illegally seized.
[01:37:22.300 --> 01:37:26.300]  But they did not at the time it was seized have a valid warrant.
[01:37:26.300 --> 01:37:29.300]  Did they come back and arrest you again like they said they would?
[01:37:29.300 --> 01:37:44.300]  It actually took place, I sat for five months went by trying to find out, you know, being basically terrified, terrorized and everything of what was about to come next.
[01:37:44.300 --> 01:37:59.300]  And he said that I was going to be arrested again in a week and that week turned into five months later and I was on the way to the grocery store to buy a bag of potatoes for my mother.
[01:37:59.300 --> 01:38:12.300]  And I met one of the same police officers that was responsible for all of the threats and harassment that led up to this whole instance.
[01:38:12.300 --> 01:38:25.300]  He met me on the road and recognized me and he turned around and followed me into the grocery store parking lot and he told me that he believed that there was a warrant for my arrest and that he would have to check.
[01:38:25.300 --> 01:38:32.300]  So he did this check and he came back and said there was a warrant for your arrest, you're under arrest.
[01:38:32.300 --> 01:38:39.300]  And so they arrested me right there in front of everybody and in front of the whole grocery store parking lot.
[01:38:39.300 --> 01:38:43.300]  And this was over the five count, they had five counts on you at this point.
[01:38:43.300 --> 01:38:44.300]  Right.
[01:38:44.300 --> 01:38:52.300]  They went through the recorder after keeping it and that's interesting because in that period of five months after I was arrested the first time,
[01:38:52.300 --> 01:39:02.300]  the first thing that we did, me and my mother went to the library to find out what this eavesdropping statute was all about.
[01:39:02.300 --> 01:39:13.300]  And I dug into that and the possession of things seized under the Illinois criminal code of criminal procedure.
[01:39:13.300 --> 01:39:28.300]  And I found out that if a person under the statute, if a person is arrested without a warrant and held without a charge and then released without a charge being preferred against them,
[01:39:28.300 --> 01:39:35.300]  that any articles or instruments or things seized have to be returned to them upon release.
[01:39:35.300 --> 01:39:44.300]  And they violated that Illinois code by keeping my recorder and letting me go on that day on January 13th of 2009.
[01:39:44.300 --> 01:39:46.300]  Because they released you without a charge the first time?
[01:39:46.300 --> 01:39:47.300]  Right.
[01:39:47.300 --> 01:39:53.300]  So they arrested you the first time at the courthouse but then didn't charge you?
[01:39:53.300 --> 01:39:54.300]  They didn't charge me.
[01:39:54.300 --> 01:39:55.300]  Wait, hold on.
[01:39:55.300 --> 01:39:59.300]  They arrested you in the courthouse and took you to jail?
[01:39:59.300 --> 01:40:00.300]  Yes.
[01:40:00.300 --> 01:40:02.300]  Without a warrant?
[01:40:02.300 --> 01:40:12.300]  They arrested you without a warrant in a courthouse full of magistrates and took you to jail.
[01:40:12.300 --> 01:40:14.300]  They arrested me right in front of you?
[01:40:14.300 --> 01:40:16.300]  Well, remember, this is Illinois.
[01:40:16.300 --> 01:40:18.300]  They may not have that requirement.
[01:40:18.300 --> 01:40:19.300]  Yes, they do.
[01:40:19.300 --> 01:40:26.300]  They arrested me in front of the very judge that was claiming that she was a victim of this crime.
[01:40:26.300 --> 01:40:32.300]  And there was no other witnesses of authority.
[01:40:32.300 --> 01:40:38.300]  There were other people that heard what was going on in the hallway of the courthouse.
[01:40:38.300 --> 01:40:41.300]  Okay, a question.
[01:40:41.300 --> 01:40:54.300]  The officer who made the arrest, was he in the courtroom when the judge, when this alleged act occurred?
[01:40:54.300 --> 01:40:58.300]  Yes, he was in the courtroom the entire time.
[01:40:58.300 --> 01:41:02.300]  Okay, then he personally saw her defense being committed.
[01:41:02.300 --> 01:41:07.300]  Now, he had the authority to arrest based on an on-site offense.
[01:41:07.300 --> 01:41:13.300]  But he was required to take you directly to the nearest magistrate.
[01:41:13.300 --> 01:41:17.300]  Which would be the exact same judge that had me arrested to begin with?
[01:41:17.300 --> 01:41:18.300]  That's right.
[01:41:18.300 --> 01:41:27.300]  Actually, technically, that one would have been disqualified as that one would have been a witness in the incident.
[01:41:27.300 --> 01:41:29.300]  Well, she wasn't the only witness.
[01:41:29.300 --> 01:41:31.300]  There were other people in the courtroom.
[01:41:31.300 --> 01:41:34.300]  She was the only magistrate in the courtroom.
[01:41:34.300 --> 01:41:36.300]  She was the only magistrate.
[01:41:36.300 --> 01:41:38.300]  She would be disqualified as the magistrate.
[01:41:38.300 --> 01:41:40.300]  But she's in the courthouse.
[01:41:40.300 --> 01:41:44.300]  It's full of magistrates.
[01:41:44.300 --> 01:41:50.300]  So they arrested you in a courthouse, full of magistrates, and took you straight to jail.
[01:41:50.300 --> 01:41:53.300]  These guys want to fight, you should give them one.
[01:41:53.300 --> 01:41:56.300]  Yeah, that's what I...
[01:41:56.300 --> 01:41:59.300]  Aggravated kidnapping, aggravated assault.
[01:41:59.300 --> 01:42:01.300]  I agree with that too.
[01:42:01.300 --> 01:42:10.300]  I did enough discovery on this issue, digging into it, that there is a claim to be made of even kidnapping.
[01:42:10.300 --> 01:42:16.300]  Okay, go to jurismprudence.com.
[01:42:16.300 --> 01:42:18.300]  That's my website.
[01:42:18.300 --> 01:42:21.300]  And on there, you see a bunch of frogs.
[01:42:21.300 --> 01:42:24.300]  I call this the frog farm conspiracy.
[01:42:24.300 --> 01:42:26.300]  Yeah, I have actually seen that.
[01:42:26.300 --> 01:42:34.300]  Top frog on the left goes to a writ of habeas corpus, but it is a treatment of due process.
[01:42:34.300 --> 01:42:37.300]  It walks right down the requirements of due process.
[01:42:37.300 --> 01:42:39.300]  You should read through that.
[01:42:39.300 --> 01:42:40.300]  Okay.
[01:42:40.300 --> 01:42:43.300]  This tells you what the police were supposed to do.
[01:42:43.300 --> 01:42:47.300]  It's written in Texas law, but it follows the federal law.
[01:42:47.300 --> 01:42:50.300]  This would be consistent across all of the states.
[01:42:50.300 --> 01:42:51.300]  Okay.
[01:42:51.300 --> 01:42:54.300]  They are to take you directly to the nearest magistrate.
[01:42:54.300 --> 01:42:58.300]  If they don't take you directly to the nearest magistrate,
[01:42:58.300 --> 01:43:09.300]  then when the officer, after he makes the arrest, when he points toward the jail instead of some magistrate,
[01:43:09.300 --> 01:43:17.300]  having made no due diligent effort to locate a magistrate to perform an examining trial,
[01:43:17.300 --> 01:43:28.300]  then he becomes a trespasser on law himself and is a trespasser ab initio from the beginning and all his acts are defeated.
[01:43:28.300 --> 01:43:35.300]  Any evidence they may have secured subsequently is considered fruit of the poisoned tree.
[01:43:35.300 --> 01:43:36.300]  Yes.
[01:43:36.300 --> 01:43:41.300]  But more than that, their acts are criminal.
[01:43:41.300 --> 01:43:43.300]  I agree with that.
[01:43:43.300 --> 01:43:47.300]  If you commit kidnapping, if you restrict someone in their movement,
[01:43:47.300 --> 01:43:52.300]  and you do so whilst displaying a deadly weapon, that's first-degree felony.
[01:43:52.300 --> 01:43:54.300]  Every state.
[01:43:54.300 --> 01:43:56.300]  It's also aggravated assaults.
[01:43:56.300 --> 01:43:59.300]  This is Randy Kelton, never seen with Eddie Craig or anything like that.
[01:43:59.300 --> 01:44:00.300]  Hey, did you hear?
[01:44:00.300 --> 01:44:03.300]  Ron Paul has announced he's running for president in 2012.
[01:44:03.300 --> 01:44:04.300]  Who's Ron Paul?
[01:44:04.300 --> 01:44:05.300]  Really?
[01:44:05.300 --> 01:44:07.300]  Okay, put down the cell phone for one minute.
[01:44:07.300 --> 01:44:10.300]  Your friends really don't care about your Twitter updates on what you had for breakfast.
[01:44:10.300 --> 01:44:12.300]  Oh, but I'd love to make those little smiley faces with punctuation marks.
[01:44:12.300 --> 01:44:13.300]  Of course you do.
[01:44:13.300 --> 01:44:14.300]  Now, listen closely.
[01:44:14.300 --> 01:44:19.300]  You need to go down to Brave New Books and learn as much as you can about Ron Paul and his message before it's too late.
[01:44:19.300 --> 01:44:22.300]  They have all of his books and many of the books he talks about.
[01:44:22.300 --> 01:44:27.300]  They also have t-shirts, bumper stickers and yard signs so that you can show your support for him during the campaign.
[01:44:27.300 --> 01:44:28.300]  Brave New Books?
[01:44:28.300 --> 01:44:30.300]  Do they have Harry Potter and Twilight?
[01:44:30.300 --> 01:44:36.300]  No, but they do carry a large selection of survival and preparedness books to protect your family in time of emergency.
[01:44:36.300 --> 01:44:38.300]  Ugh, that sounds like that show on the Discovery Channel.
[01:44:38.300 --> 01:44:46.300]  Yeah, there's even a wilderness survival expert that teaches classes called Earth Skills School that you can sign up for on the website BraveNewBookstore.com.
[01:44:46.300 --> 01:44:47.300]  What are you doing?
[01:44:47.300 --> 01:44:52.300]  I'm tweeting all my friends that they should go to BraveNewBookstore.com or down to the bookstore in person.
[01:44:52.300 --> 01:44:53.300]  Where's it located?
[01:44:53.300 --> 01:44:55.300]  1904, Guadalupe Street.
[01:44:55.300 --> 01:44:56.300]  There, it's sent.
[01:44:56.300 --> 01:44:57.300]  I even made a smiley face.
[01:44:57.300 --> 01:44:58.300]  Great.
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[01:46:07.300 --> 01:46:08.300]  Hello.
[01:46:09.300 --> 01:46:11.300]  Oh man, this is jail.
[01:46:12.300 --> 01:46:13.300]  Got a box in there?
[01:46:13.300 --> 01:46:22.300]  Oh man, I'm broke here.
[01:46:22.300 --> 01:46:26.300]  Sometimes in this world I will never understand
[01:46:26.300 --> 01:46:30.300]  Sometimes I realize foolish
[01:46:30.300 --> 01:46:34.300]  Somebody's on a police, that police man
[01:46:34.300 --> 01:46:38.300]  Somebody's on a police, a police
[01:46:38.300 --> 01:46:43.300]  There's always room at the top of the head
[01:46:43.300 --> 01:46:48.300]  I hear through the grapevine and it's lonely left to
[01:46:48.300 --> 01:46:52.300]  They're wishing it was more than opposition to bills
[01:46:52.300 --> 01:46:57.300]  They know that if they don't do it, somebody will remain
[01:46:57.300 --> 01:47:00.300]  This world will never understand
[01:47:00.300 --> 01:47:04.300]  Sometimes I realize foolish
[01:47:04.300 --> 01:47:09.300]  Somebody's on a police, that police man
[01:47:09.300 --> 01:47:13.300]  Somebody's on a police
[01:47:13.300 --> 01:47:15.300]  I know they will
[01:47:15.300 --> 01:47:17.300]  Yeah, they're gonna put the bill
[01:47:17.300 --> 01:47:18.300]  I know they will
[01:47:18.300 --> 01:47:21.300]  Because I don't see so much injustice
[01:47:21.300 --> 01:47:22.300]  I know they will
[01:47:22.300 --> 01:47:25.300]  I'm never fast enough to get back that scale
[01:47:25.300 --> 01:47:27.300]  I know they will
[01:47:27.300 --> 01:47:30.300]  I'm never fast enough to get back that scale
[01:47:30.300 --> 01:47:31.300]  I know they will
[01:47:31.300 --> 01:47:35.300]  I'm never fast enough to get back that scale
[01:47:35.300 --> 01:47:36.300]  I know they will
[01:47:36.300 --> 01:47:39.300]  I'm never fast enough to get back that scale
[01:47:39.300 --> 01:47:40.300]  I know they say they can
[01:47:40.300 --> 01:47:41.300]  Okay folks, we're back.
[01:47:41.300 --> 01:47:44.300]  All right, we've got the final segment here
[01:47:44.300 --> 01:47:49.300]  with our very special guest, Mr. Michael Allison.
[01:47:49.300 --> 01:47:51.300]  Okay, so the long and short of it,
[01:47:51.300 --> 01:47:54.300]  he had five counts pending against him
[01:47:54.300 --> 01:47:59.300]  in this concerning illegal wiretapping.
[01:47:59.300 --> 01:48:02.300]  Eavesdropping statute.
[01:48:02.300 --> 01:48:05.300]  So what basically ended up happening
[01:48:05.300 --> 01:48:08.300]  is that this was a state judge,
[01:48:08.300 --> 01:48:10.300]  or I guess in Illinois,
[01:48:10.300 --> 01:48:13.300]  the trial court is in county level.
[01:48:13.300 --> 01:48:16.300]  The county court, county judge threw it out
[01:48:16.300 --> 01:48:19.300]  and ruled that the law was unconstitutional
[01:48:19.300 --> 01:48:21.300]  because people have a constitutional right
[01:48:21.300 --> 01:48:23.300]  to record public servants.
[01:48:23.300 --> 01:48:25.300]  Is that basically correct, Michael?
[01:48:25.300 --> 01:48:26.300]  Yes.
[01:48:26.300 --> 01:48:30.300]  My attorney had made a motion to dismiss
[01:48:30.300 --> 01:48:32.300]  based on three points
[01:48:32.300 --> 01:48:35.300]  and the challenge was to the first amendment right
[01:48:35.300 --> 01:48:38.300]  to record and disseminate information
[01:48:38.300 --> 01:48:43.300]  and the 14th amendment right under due process
[01:48:43.300 --> 01:48:49.300]  that the statute actually criminalizes innocent behavior
[01:48:49.300 --> 01:48:52.300]  and it does so without due process.
[01:48:52.300 --> 01:48:57.300]  The third was that the statute should be void for vagueness
[01:48:57.300 --> 01:49:02.300]  because the language and the statute to be constitutional,
[01:49:02.300 --> 01:49:07.300]  the language has to be plain enough and clear enough
[01:49:07.300 --> 01:49:09.300]  that a person of average intelligence
[01:49:09.300 --> 01:49:13.300]  can read and understand the statute
[01:49:13.300 --> 01:49:16.300]  and know what is and is not prohibited.
[01:49:16.300 --> 01:49:19.300]  Well obviously the judge did not qualify.
[01:49:19.300 --> 01:49:25.300]  The judge, I don't understand, did not qualify.
[01:49:25.300 --> 01:49:28.300]  The original one that accused you of violating it
[01:49:28.300 --> 01:49:30.300]  obviously didn't qualify to be intelligent enough
[01:49:30.300 --> 01:49:31.300]  to understand it.
[01:49:31.300 --> 01:49:33.300]  I agree with that.
[01:49:33.300 --> 01:49:38.300]  In my first filing of this case,
[01:49:38.300 --> 01:49:42.300]  where I've actually tried to take pro se action
[01:49:42.300 --> 01:49:45.300]  and get this into the federal court,
[01:49:45.300 --> 01:49:49.300]  I mentioned that the judge knew or should have known
[01:49:49.300 --> 01:49:52.300]  that the statute, the language and the statute
[01:49:52.300 --> 01:49:55.300]  does not prohibit what I did.
[01:49:55.300 --> 01:50:02.300]  I think that the language in the statute is very vague
[01:50:02.300 --> 01:50:04.300]  and should be void for vagueness
[01:50:04.300 --> 01:50:07.300]  but the judge that I was in front of
[01:50:07.300 --> 01:50:12.300]  in this case with the charges pending against me
[01:50:12.300 --> 01:50:17.300]  basically went against us on the issue of it being vague
[01:50:17.300 --> 01:50:22.300]  and we lost on that point and he sided with us
[01:50:22.300 --> 01:50:25.300]  in the idea that the statute does violate
[01:50:25.300 --> 01:50:29.300]  the First Amendment right to record public servants
[01:50:29.300 --> 01:50:34.300]  and gather and receive and disseminate information
[01:50:34.300 --> 01:50:37.300]  involving public servants.
[01:50:37.300 --> 01:50:41.300]  So we won on the First Amendment right issue
[01:50:41.300 --> 01:50:44.300]  and we also won on the 14th Amendment right issue
[01:50:44.300 --> 01:50:49.300]  that the statute criminalizes
[01:50:49.300 --> 01:50:54.300]  an innocent behavior without due process of law.
[01:50:54.300 --> 01:50:56.300]  Okay, so this is an incredible victory
[01:50:56.300 --> 01:50:59.300]  and coming right on the heels of the First Circuit Court
[01:50:59.300 --> 01:51:02.300]  of Appeals decision in the GLIC case
[01:51:02.300 --> 01:51:06.300]  where that man sued, this was a civil case
[01:51:06.300 --> 01:51:10.300]  and the circuit court ruled in his favor
[01:51:10.300 --> 01:51:12.300]  basically on the same issue
[01:51:12.300 --> 01:51:16.300]  saying that fundamentally citizens have the same rights
[01:51:16.300 --> 01:51:19.300]  as the press concerning the gathering
[01:51:19.300 --> 01:51:21.300]  and dissemination of information.
[01:51:21.300 --> 01:51:25.300]  Now in this last segment I want to talk a little bit about your case.
[01:51:25.300 --> 01:51:27.300]  You're going to refile your federal lawsuit.
[01:51:27.300 --> 01:51:31.300]  Now you filed under Title 42, Section 1983 last time.
[01:51:31.300 --> 01:51:32.300]  Is that correct?
[01:51:32.300 --> 01:51:33.300]  That's correct.
[01:51:33.300 --> 01:51:37.300]  Okay, did you also file under Title 28, 1343?
[01:51:37.300 --> 01:51:39.300]  I think that that is the case.
[01:51:39.300 --> 01:51:41.300]  I don't have it pulled up right here in front of me,
[01:51:41.300 --> 01:51:49.300]  but I basically mirrored the language and everything
[01:51:49.300 --> 01:51:55.300]  to get the venue and the proper venue
[01:51:55.300 --> 01:51:58.300]  and everything done with my federal case
[01:51:58.300 --> 01:52:02.300]  that I had an actual attorney filed for me
[01:52:02.300 --> 01:52:06.300]  for the Bridgeport case in 2005.
[01:52:06.300 --> 01:52:10.300]  Then also you could file under Title 18, Section 242
[01:52:10.300 --> 01:52:13.300]  for deprivation of rights under color of law.
[01:52:13.300 --> 01:52:15.300]  I wanted to back up a little bit.
[01:52:15.300 --> 01:52:18.300]  I was going to mention when you were talking about the Illinois statute
[01:52:18.300 --> 01:52:22.300]  that says that if a person, if somebody is arrested
[01:52:22.300 --> 01:52:25.300]  and then released without being charged,
[01:52:25.300 --> 01:52:28.300]  all of their belongings have to be returned to them.
[01:52:28.300 --> 01:52:30.300]  They can't keep anything as evidence.
[01:52:30.300 --> 01:52:35.300]  Yet in your case they kept the recorder, your audio recorder,
[01:52:35.300 --> 01:52:40.300]  that is basically violation of due process,
[01:52:40.300 --> 01:52:44.300]  of civil rights, due process rights under Illinois statute.
[01:52:44.300 --> 01:52:47.300]  That's something that should be mentioned in your federal case
[01:52:47.300 --> 01:52:49.300]  when you file again.
[01:52:49.300 --> 01:52:50.300]  Right.
[01:52:50.300 --> 01:52:52.300]  I think that that's a very big important part of this case
[01:52:52.300 --> 01:52:56.300]  and why I believe that they would never be able to convict me
[01:52:56.300 --> 01:52:58.300]  of anything on several points,
[01:52:58.300 --> 01:53:04.300]  but that being the main point is that they actually
[01:53:04.300 --> 01:53:10.300]  premeditatedly set this whole thing up.
[01:53:10.300 --> 01:53:14.300]  It was a premeditated attempt of entrapment
[01:53:14.300 --> 01:53:20.300]  and everything that followed was tainted with their criminality
[01:53:20.300 --> 01:53:24.300]  of what they were intending to do with malicious intent.
[01:53:24.300 --> 01:53:26.300]  Absolutely.
[01:53:26.300 --> 01:53:31.300]  By the fact that they kept that recorder in violation of that statute
[01:53:31.300 --> 01:53:34.300]  and then went through the recorder to get their information
[01:53:34.300 --> 01:53:39.300]  and evidence which led to them issuing the warrant for the arrest,
[01:53:39.300 --> 01:53:44.300]  the second arrest, and the charges that were brought
[01:53:44.300 --> 01:53:47.300]  by the state's attorney all came from that recorder
[01:53:47.300 --> 01:53:50.300]  as evidence of root of the poisonous tree,
[01:53:50.300 --> 01:53:55.300]  which means that the whole case was built on the foundation of nothing.
[01:53:55.300 --> 01:54:05.300]  The case itself, whenever I found out all of the details
[01:54:05.300 --> 01:54:09.300]  of the ins and outs of the basis for this case,
[01:54:09.300 --> 01:54:12.300]  I told my mother whenever this first started
[01:54:12.300 --> 01:54:16.300]  that a good attorney could kill this in two hours.
[01:54:16.300 --> 01:54:19.300]  At the time, we didn't hire a good attorney.
[01:54:19.300 --> 01:54:23.300]  We hired an attorney out of Chicago who ended up ripping us off.
[01:54:23.300 --> 01:54:28.300]  He wanted to pay money up front and he wasn't a very good attorney.
[01:54:28.300 --> 01:54:30.300]  He didn't do hardly anything for me.
[01:54:30.300 --> 01:54:34.300]  He made two motions and then withdrew from the case
[01:54:34.300 --> 01:54:37.300]  and kept all the money that he was paid up front
[01:54:37.300 --> 01:54:41.300]  and that put me in a situation I couldn't afford to hire another attorney.
[01:54:41.300 --> 01:54:44.300]  That's an average attorney. That's not a bad attorney.
[01:54:44.300 --> 01:54:46.300]  That's an average attorney.
[01:54:46.300 --> 01:54:54.300]  By him kind of botching the case, it continued and continued and continued.
[01:54:54.300 --> 01:55:00.300]  We need to look at filing my practice against the attorney,
[01:55:00.300 --> 01:55:04.300]  at least file a bar grievance or two. That was stinging big time.
[01:55:04.300 --> 01:55:08.300]  To me, what I would like to do,
[01:55:08.300 --> 01:55:12.300]  if we could just get our money back from the guy,
[01:55:12.300 --> 01:55:16.300]  which he told us that we were entitled to a refund,
[01:55:16.300 --> 01:55:20.300]  and then ultimately send a letter saying that he wasn't going to issue a refund,
[01:55:20.300 --> 01:55:24.300]  if we could just get the money back, that would be a help.
[01:55:24.300 --> 01:55:28.300]  We won't have time on this show. We're going to run out of time,
[01:55:28.300 --> 01:55:35.300]  but you can go to bargrievance.net and put together a bar grievance against him.
[01:55:35.300 --> 01:55:37.300]  That'll sting him good.
[01:55:37.300 --> 01:55:42.300]  I was going to say also concerning when you refile this federal case,
[01:55:42.300 --> 01:55:50.300]  one thing that we always like to do is to write up criminal complaints against the perps
[01:55:50.300 --> 01:55:54.300]  and include them as exhibits in your federal case,
[01:55:54.300 --> 01:55:58.300]  because that helps to support and prove up your causes of action.
[01:55:58.300 --> 01:56:04.300]  All right. Do we have enough time to just make one more point?
[01:56:04.300 --> 01:56:06.300]  Yes, go ahead. We've got a couple minutes left.
[01:56:06.300 --> 01:56:11.300]  One thing that's real interesting in this situation is that the arresting officer
[01:56:11.300 --> 01:56:15.300]  who was acting as a bailiff in the courtroom that day on January 13th,
[01:56:15.300 --> 01:56:17.300]  his name is Jason Langley.
[01:56:17.300 --> 01:56:23.300]  Jason Langley has a brother named Jim Langley,
[01:56:23.300 --> 01:56:28.300]  and Jim Langley runs Langley's record service in the city of Robinson.
[01:56:28.300 --> 01:56:30.300]  Isn't that interesting?
[01:56:30.300 --> 01:56:36.300]  If you followed what I discovered in the Lawrence County situation
[01:56:36.300 --> 01:56:41.300]  where the tow truck company told me that he goes through the Sheriff's Department
[01:56:41.300 --> 01:56:48.300]  to obtain titles to these cars and then bring it back to the Crawford County situation
[01:56:48.300 --> 01:56:54.300]  where the deputy who works in the Crawford County Sheriff's Department
[01:56:54.300 --> 01:56:57.300]  has a brother that runs a tow truck company,
[01:56:57.300 --> 01:57:02.300]  and this Sheriff's deputy who was the one who arrested me in that courtroom that day
[01:57:02.300 --> 01:57:11.300]  and knew that I intended to sue over the issue of exposing this whole extortion and vehicle theft scam.
[01:57:11.300 --> 01:57:15.300]  He knew that before he arrested me.
[01:57:15.300 --> 01:57:17.300]  Interesting. Very interesting.
[01:57:17.300 --> 01:57:20.300]  And another thing that's interesting that I wanted to note,
[01:57:20.300 --> 01:57:24.300]  you had mentioned on Gary's show concerning that the Illinois Supreme Court,
[01:57:24.300 --> 01:57:27.300]  the state supreme court has a court rule,
[01:57:27.300 --> 01:57:32.300]  a local court rule that says that if people get permission from the court,
[01:57:32.300 --> 01:57:39.300]  then they can record audio or video of the court proceedings.
[01:57:39.300 --> 01:57:43.300]  And I thought that was very interesting because even if they got permission of the court,
[01:57:43.300 --> 01:57:47.300]  that would still be a violation of the wiretapping statute, now wouldn't it?
[01:57:47.300 --> 01:57:53.300]  Yes, and that's one of the questions that the judge in this case that gave me this favorable ruling
[01:57:53.300 --> 01:57:58.300]  asked the state's attorney in one of the prior hearings,
[01:57:58.300 --> 01:58:05.300]  he asked the state's attorney if I was to get permission to have brought that recorder into the courtroom,
[01:58:05.300 --> 01:58:08.300]  would it have been a violation of the statute?
[01:58:08.300 --> 01:58:11.300]  And at first he answered yes, and then he answered no,
[01:58:11.300 --> 01:58:17.300]  and he was contradicting himself all over the place trying to figure out how to answer that question.
[01:58:17.300 --> 01:58:22.300]  And I think that was one of the things that had a major impact on the case.
[01:58:22.300 --> 01:58:25.300]  All right, well, Michael, I wish we had more time, but we're out of time.
[01:58:25.300 --> 01:58:27.300]  Thank you so much for joining us tonight.
[01:58:27.300 --> 01:58:29.300]  Thank you for having me on.
[01:58:29.300 --> 01:58:34.300]  Okay, folks, we'll be back tomorrow night for a four-hour info marathon barn burner.
[01:58:34.300 --> 01:58:37.300]  Please call in tomorrow night with your questions.
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