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[00:04.480 --> 00:10.240]  At least 18 people were killed Thursday in an explosion at a cafe in the Moroccan city of Marrakech.
[00:10.240 --> 00:14.320]  Twenty were wounded. The cafe was a popular spot with tourists.
[00:14.320 --> 00:16.960]  Both foreigners and Moroccans were among the dead.
[00:16.960 --> 00:24.320]  An Iraqi investigation confirmed Wednesday U.S. forces were involved in the escape earlier this year
[00:24.320 --> 00:27.760]  of a dozen Al-Qaeda members from a prison in Basra,
[00:27.760 --> 00:33.200]  the committee established by the Iraqi parliament found U.S. forces were behind an operation
[00:33.200 --> 00:38.400]  to help the Al-Qaeda members escape from prison, which was carried out by a group of Iraqi officers.
[00:39.920 --> 00:44.400]  A new Gallup USA Today poll indicates most Americans are unsure whether
[00:44.400 --> 00:48.880]  leading Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump was born in the U.S.
[00:48.880 --> 00:52.240]  50% of respondents could not definitely say he was.
[00:52.240 --> 00:57.360]  Trump had questioned whether Barack Obama was born in the U.S. and eligible to be president.
[00:57.360 --> 01:00.240]  After Obama released his birth certificate Wednesday,
[01:00.240 --> 01:04.320]  Trump took credit and called for Obama to release his college records.
[01:05.920 --> 01:10.960]  In a resounding victory for big business, the Supreme Court ruled Wednesday a company can
[01:10.960 --> 01:15.760]  require its customers or employees to arbitrate disputes individually
[01:15.760 --> 01:18.480]  rather than joining forces in a class action.
[01:18.480 --> 01:23.760]  The five-to-four decision overturned a 2005 California Supreme Court ruling allowing
[01:23.760 --> 01:28.240]  customers to form a class with other buyers who had similar grievances.
[01:28.240 --> 01:34.880]  A lawyer for the plaintiffs, a California couple contesting a $30 cell phone fee from AT&T,
[01:34.880 --> 01:38.880]  called the ruling, quote, a crushing blow to American consumers.
[01:38.880 --> 01:44.160]  AT&T said the court recognized arbitration as a speedy and effective procedure
[01:44.160 --> 01:46.000]  that often helped consumers.
[01:46.000 --> 01:51.280]  Justice Antonin Scalia's majority opinion, which stated businesses facing class actions,
[01:51.280 --> 01:54.960]  quote, will be pressured into settling questionable claims,
[01:54.960 --> 01:59.040]  could also signal difficulties for a pending sex discrimination case
[01:59.040 --> 02:02.880]  on behalf of 500,000 female employees of Walmart.
[02:02.880 --> 02:08.240]  The court is to rule by the end of June on whether that case can proceed as a class action.
[02:10.000 --> 02:14.560]  As the crackdown on the majority Shiite opposition movement continues in Bahrain,
[02:14.560 --> 02:18.800]  the nation's Sunni leader, King Hamad bin Issa al-Khalifa,
[02:18.800 --> 02:22.160]  and his military regime, backed by Saudi armed forces,
[02:22.160 --> 02:25.600]  has moved from assaults on protesters to state terror.
[02:25.600 --> 02:29.440]  Critics say unmarked vehicles whisking activists away in the dead of night
[02:29.440 --> 02:34.800]  and suppression of the media are fast pushing Bahrain into an abyss of impunity.
[02:34.800 --> 02:37.040]  Amnesty International reported last week,
[02:37.040 --> 02:41.760]  Bahrain's human rights crisis has reached a level of grave severity.
[02:41.760 --> 02:43.920]  The rights group said Western governments,
[02:43.920 --> 02:47.440]  who are quick to safeguard the rights of protesters elsewhere in the region,
[02:47.440 --> 02:52.320]  should act fast to alleviate accusations of political selectivity and hypocrisy.
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[04:32.080 --> 04:40.280]  When we come for you here at the Rule of Law, ruleoflawradio.com.
[04:40.280 --> 04:45.600]  I'm Deborah Stevens, we're here with Eddie Craig, tonight is Thursday, April 28th, we're
[04:45.600 --> 04:48.840]  also here with Randy Kelton.
[04:48.840 --> 04:52.160]  We do have some very special guests for you tonight.
[04:52.160 --> 05:01.360]  We have DZ Cofield, he is the senior pastor from the Good Hope Missionary Baptist Church.
[05:01.360 --> 05:07.520]  He gave a testimony at the House Committee hearing, the Criminal Jurisprudence Committee
[05:07.520 --> 05:16.120]  hearing on House Bill 1471 which would up the penalties for official oppression to a
[05:16.120 --> 05:25.240]  third degree felony or a second degree felony depending on the extent of bodily injury.
[05:25.240 --> 05:29.480]  So we've got the pastor on the line right now, we're also going to be having Representative
[05:29.480 --> 05:34.440]  Miles join us shortly, Representative, I'm sorry Pastor Cofield, thank you for joining
[05:34.440 --> 05:35.440]  us tonight.
[05:35.440 --> 05:38.880]  Thank you for having me, I appreciate you having me.
[05:38.880 --> 05:43.480]  Alright so we've got Eddie here with us, so pastor why don't you give us a little idea
[05:43.480 --> 05:47.800]  here about how did you get involved with this bill?
[05:47.800 --> 05:57.280]  Well I actually got involved with the bill out of a crisis that happened here in Houston.
[05:57.280 --> 06:03.680]  We had the beating of a young man who was 15 years old at the time.
[06:03.680 --> 06:14.080]  He was charged with burglary of a habitation but the beating of this young man caught national
[06:14.080 --> 06:21.080]  attention because as he was fleeing from the police, he jumped over a police car that tried
[06:21.080 --> 06:28.920]  to hit him, fell on the ground, assumed the position of surrender and then after he put
[06:28.920 --> 06:34.720]  his hands behind his head, the police came and literally started punching and kicking
[06:34.720 --> 06:38.600]  him even after he was handcuffed.
[06:38.600 --> 06:46.840]  And what happened out of it was an investigation on the part of the police department, basically
[06:46.840 --> 06:53.840]  an investigation of the police department by the NAACP locally that basically resulted
[06:53.840 --> 06:57.800]  in us beginning to look at the laws of the land.
[06:57.800 --> 07:02.560]  And I think one of the things that's important for you listeners to understand is this problem
[07:02.560 --> 07:11.000]  of the excessive use of force by law enforcement agencies is a systemic problem and what police
[07:11.000 --> 07:18.120]  agencies have done across the state is built in legislative protection for themselves.
[07:18.120 --> 07:24.520]  So even if they're caught on camera using excessive force, the most they could be charged
[07:24.520 --> 07:30.440]  with was a Class A misdemeanor and most of them would plead down out of that Class A
[07:30.440 --> 07:36.760]  misdemeanor, official oppression, and would be able to go on with their careers.
[07:36.760 --> 07:45.320]  In 1989 we discovered that the reports of internal affairs departments were now excluded
[07:45.320 --> 07:47.040]  from the Open Records Act.
[07:47.040 --> 07:51.360]  So now they can do whatever they want, investigate it and hide it from the public.
[07:51.360 --> 07:59.480]  And so we just saw things over and over again that we're taking that kept people from being
[07:59.480 --> 08:02.520]  able to hold officers accountable.
[08:02.520 --> 08:05.680]  And this is not to penalize good officers.
[08:05.680 --> 08:13.160]  This is about holding officers accountable to what they do and being able to punish bad
[08:13.160 --> 08:16.800]  officers who are doing what they should not do.
[08:16.800 --> 08:21.440]  Well, Pastor, one thing I wanted to mention to you and we didn't get a chance to speak
[08:21.440 --> 08:25.240]  with you at the committee hearing, you remember Eddie testifying, don't you?
[08:25.240 --> 08:32.600]  Oh man, I was inspired by Eddie's testimony, I really was because when we came up there
[08:32.600 --> 08:40.720]  we anticipated that some police agencies might be up there to testify against the bill.
[08:40.720 --> 08:50.120]  Representative Miles had received some threats regarding his filing of this bill because
[08:50.120 --> 08:55.240]  the police lobbyists have such a strong voice and we didn't want it to be a racial issue.
[08:55.240 --> 09:00.440]  One of the things that we learned in Houston as we opened up and went throughout various
[09:00.440 --> 09:07.360]  communities hearing reports of the excessive use of force by policing agencies, there were
[09:07.360 --> 09:13.120]  Hispanics, there were Anglos, there were African-Americans, I mean there were people of all races, creeds
[09:13.120 --> 09:17.840]  and colors who were complaining about the use of excessive force.
[09:17.840 --> 09:22.920]  So when you get there and you see a man like Eddie, especially somebody who has come out
[09:22.920 --> 09:28.800]  of law enforcement and a white brother who is speaking boldly about this, man I was like
[09:28.800 --> 09:35.760]  go Eddie go, go Eddie go, I mean it really was inspiring and I think to be honest with
[09:35.760 --> 09:43.760]  you his testimony, maybe more than any other testimony, really kind of swayed I think that
[09:43.760 --> 09:48.800]  committee to really think about allowing this bill to come out of that committee and to
[09:48.800 --> 09:49.800]  go to the full house.
[09:49.800 --> 09:53.440]  So I appreciate Eddie being courageous enough to take that stand.
[09:53.440 --> 09:56.520]  Well one thing I wanted to mention to you, go ahead Eddie.
[09:56.520 --> 10:00.960]  I was just thinking in all honesty I could feel the eyes burning into my back from those
[10:00.960 --> 10:05.080]  at the back of the room with the badges and the guns, especially when I started mentioning
[10:05.080 --> 10:06.080]  DAs specifically.
[10:06.080 --> 10:13.320]  Eddie wasn't so brave, he's just too dumb to know any better.
[10:13.320 --> 10:14.320]  Oh Randy.
[10:14.320 --> 10:21.120]  But you know what Eddie, I'll tell you one of the things that I'm convinced of, I've
[10:21.120 --> 10:25.440]  been at several meetings today discussing some of these same issues locally here in
[10:25.440 --> 10:31.440]  Houston and one of the things I'm convinced of is it would be nice if people did the right
[10:31.440 --> 10:35.880]  thing because it's the right thing to do, but the truth of the matter is most people
[10:35.880 --> 10:41.160]  don't do the right thing unless they're made to do the right thing and until you hold people
[10:41.160 --> 10:46.480]  accountable and you were absolutely right, I agree with you 100%, you know this is like
[10:46.480 --> 10:50.000]  an onion that you're peeling back, it has multiple layers.
[10:50.000 --> 10:56.200]  We've got to deal with the local law enforcement policies stemming out of Texas Local Government
[10:56.200 --> 11:03.040]  Code 143, we've got to deal with district attorneys, we've got to deal with judges,
[11:03.040 --> 11:08.880]  you know we've got to deal with legislators and we just have to deal with all of it in
[11:08.880 --> 11:15.440]  order to really come to a solution that is in the best interest of all the people of
[11:15.440 --> 11:16.920]  the state of Texas.
[11:16.920 --> 11:23.600]  Now pastor, I was going to tell you I've been tracking this bill online and folks, if you
[11:23.600 --> 11:33.560]  have bills that you are interested in, you can go to www.legis.state.tx.us, that's the
[11:33.560 --> 11:39.120]  Texas legislature online and you can sign up for the bill alerts and I highly suggest
[11:39.120 --> 11:42.640]  that folks do that because when they have these committee hearings, you only get five
[11:42.640 --> 11:49.060]  days notice so you need to get on the bill alert for emails and concerning the committee's
[11:49.060 --> 11:56.400]  reaction to the bill, there has been some activity as of Tuesday, it was considered
[11:56.400 --> 12:00.560]  in the formal meeting of the committee, a committee substitute was considered, there
[12:00.560 --> 12:05.760]  was an amendment added and it was reported favorably as substituted.
[12:05.760 --> 12:11.720]  So apparently there has been a committee substitute which I believe was discussed at the hearing
[12:11.720 --> 12:16.120]  and so this to me is a good sign that the committee intends to send this bill forward
[12:16.120 --> 12:20.800]  to the full house because otherwise they would just leave it pending, they wouldn't substitute
[12:20.800 --> 12:27.200]  a committee substitution and what I also wanted to mention to you pastor, I didn't get a
[12:27.200 --> 12:31.240]  chance to speak to you after the hearing, we were waiting to testify on another bill,
[12:31.240 --> 12:40.440]  was concerning this prosecutor in Houston who is saying, who is just insistent that
[12:40.440 --> 12:46.520]  there is no other statute that they possibly could have charged these police officers under,
[12:46.520 --> 12:51.360]  oh poor prosecutor, the only thing they could do was charge them with official oppression
[12:51.360 --> 12:58.400]  and oh woe is them, it's only a misdemeanor, well that is just a blatant lie because there
[12:58.400 --> 13:08.600]  is a provision under the assault statute for aggravated assault committed by a public servant
[13:08.600 --> 13:15.840]  acting under color of law and that is a first degree felony if it's an aggravated assault
[13:15.840 --> 13:20.880]  and aggravated assault simply means that you are wearing a pistol, that you are armed,
[13:20.880 --> 13:26.080]  that somebody was, whoever committed the crime was bearing arms when they committed a crime
[13:26.080 --> 13:30.040]  and it doesn't have anything to do with the nature of the bodily injury or the extent
[13:30.040 --> 13:35.240]  of bodily injury, aggravated assault just means that they were bearing a weapon and
[13:35.240 --> 13:41.880]  so these police clearly committed aggravated assault by a public servant acting in the
[13:41.880 --> 13:48.600]  line of duty under color of law that is, what statute is it Randy, it's like section 202?
[13:48.600 --> 13:57.080]  It's 2202 B2A 2202 B2A of the penal code of the state of
[13:57.080 --> 14:04.600]  Texas, it's already a first degree felony The statute for assault, if you commit simple
[14:04.600 --> 14:13.080]  assault and are at the time displaying a deadly weapon, that is a second degree felony unless
[14:13.080 --> 14:21.800]  and the legislature went to specific trouble to address this very particularly unless you
[14:21.800 --> 14:29.400]  are a public official acting under the color or pretense of an official capacity in which
[14:29.400 --> 14:38.800]  case it's a first degree felony, never ever has anyone in Texas ever been prosecuted for
[14:38.800 --> 14:47.400]  that violation, now the next paragraph makes it a first degree felony if you commit assault
[14:47.400 --> 14:52.040]  against a public official, now on that one I got 30,000 hits
[14:52.040 --> 14:58.800]  30,000 hits for assault against a public official but if it's committed by the public
[14:58.800 --> 15:11.320]  servant, zero prosecutions They call it, lost the term, official abuse
[15:11.320 --> 15:15.520]  of excessive use of force Official oppression and abuse of official
[15:15.520 --> 15:20.840]  offense They call it excessive use of force, it's
[15:20.840 --> 15:26.400]  not excessive use of force, it's first degree felony aggravated assault
[15:26.400 --> 15:31.600]  It's one of the statutes all of your people should be aware of
[15:31.600 --> 15:36.320]  Yes and to me this is not police brutality, this is assault
[15:36.320 --> 15:41.840]  That's the term I was looking for, in the code of criminal procedure, duties of officers
[15:41.840 --> 15:47.640]  started article 2.01, 2.01 says it shall be your primary duty to prosecute an attorney
[15:47.640 --> 15:53.000]  not to convict him but to ensure that justice is served, well that's nice high minded rhetoric
[15:53.000 --> 15:58.240]  but it really doesn't tell the prosecutor to do anything in particular, 202 tells him
[15:58.240 --> 16:07.600]  what cases he will handle, 203 the very first one that places a specific duty on the prosecutor
[16:07.600 --> 16:14.200]  tells him when he is made known in any manner that a public official has violated a law
[16:14.200 --> 16:19.960]  relating to his office, he shall reduce point of information sent to the grand jury, no
[16:19.960 --> 16:26.520]  discretion zero, he must give it to the grand jury, it was not intended that a prosecutor
[16:26.520 --> 16:31.920]  decide whether or not to prosecute someone he knows and works with and that was appropriate
[16:31.920 --> 16:32.920]  Absolutely and
[16:32.920 --> 16:35.320]  He told him give it to the grand jury, none of them do it
[16:35.320 --> 16:36.320]  And pastor
[16:36.320 --> 16:37.320]  That's a classic Mr. Mayor
[16:37.320 --> 16:41.040]  Absolutely so pastor if you hold on we are going to go over this again because I think
[16:41.040 --> 16:47.720]  that there are some remedies for this young man and his family that the prosecutor does
[16:47.720 --> 16:52.200]  not want you to know about even though it is a wonderful thing we are pushing this bill
[16:52.200 --> 16:57.680]  through we need to do that but there are other remedies immediately at hand for this family
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[19:12.440 --> 19:37.360]  They do not have the answers, their oaths they are not abiding, they put us on a slope
[19:37.360 --> 19:43.440]  and slippery sliding, tyranny them a tear you, them a tear me, them a tear up the whole
[19:43.440 --> 19:48.440]  country if we would let them get away with it, that is our band Three Shoes Posse and
[19:48.440 --> 19:51.480]  we are not letting them get away with it that is why we do this radio show, that is why
[19:51.480 --> 19:57.040]  we do what we do, we walk the walk, we are not just talking heads here and we are going
[19:57.040 --> 20:03.120]  to go over one more time some tools here for the pastor and the family of this young man
[20:03.120 --> 20:09.520]  can use concerning filing criminal complaints, alright there is a statute in place we just
[20:09.520 --> 20:15.520]  went over that concerning aggravated assault committed by a public servant, it is a first
[20:15.520 --> 20:22.720]  degree felony, now what needs to happen here is that somebody and anybody can file it that
[20:22.720 --> 20:27.800]  either saw the video, the boy can file it or the young man rather, his parents, anybody
[20:27.800 --> 20:33.920]  that has even indirect knowledge can file the criminal complaint, now there has to be
[20:33.920 --> 20:39.360]  a competent fact witness that signs an affidavit, we will get to that part later but anybody
[20:39.360 --> 20:44.760]  who even saw the video or even heard about this can file a criminal complaint and it
[20:44.760 --> 20:50.640]  is a specific document, it is not a police report, you do not go to the police and complain
[20:50.640 --> 20:55.720]  and fill out a police report, no, no, no this is a legal document called a criminal complaint
[20:55.720 --> 20:59.920]  and you have it notarized, there is a statement of probable cause and you give that to the
[20:59.920 --> 21:05.600]  district attorney, now the district attorney as Randy was just mentioning before the break,
[21:05.600 --> 21:14.600]  if the complaint is against a public servant, the district attorney is required by law to
[21:14.600 --> 21:21.360]  reduce that complaint to an information and submit that to the grand jury for review,
[21:21.360 --> 21:25.400]  alright the information is a different document but basically it is based on the criminal
[21:25.400 --> 21:32.000]  complaint, district attorney does not have any discretion at all, no leeway and if the
[21:32.000 --> 21:37.760]  district attorney does not submit that document to the grand jury based on the complaint
[21:37.760 --> 21:43.640]  that has been filed with him or her, that is a class A misdemeanor in the state of Texas
[21:43.640 --> 21:48.400]  and then what we do is we go directly to the grand jury with charges against the district
[21:48.400 --> 21:55.400]  attorney for not submitting that information to the grand jury, this is what we have to
[21:55.400 --> 22:00.320]  do, this is how we are going to solve this problem because when things like this happen
[22:00.320 --> 22:06.760]  I think it is wonderful that they are upping the penalty hopefully for official oppression
[22:06.760 --> 22:11.480]  but we already have some good laws on the books and so Randy you want to go over that
[22:11.480 --> 22:18.360]  one time and cite the specific statutes for this for Pastor Cofield?
[22:18.360 --> 22:26.040]  I think upping the penalty for official oppression is wonderful, it is focusing attention on
[22:26.040 --> 22:31.400]  this issue and the vast majority of policemen out there are really good policemen, there
[22:31.400 --> 22:39.120]  are a few, one leads the other, they get excited, they get high on adrenaline and they let things
[22:39.120 --> 22:45.880]  get out of hand, it is our job, it is our place to protect the police if need be from
[22:45.880 --> 22:51.720]  themselves and I tell people on the air I never want to get anybody indicted but these
[22:51.720 --> 22:55.840]  public officials are like my grandchildren, I love them dearly.
[22:55.840 --> 23:00.840]  Yeah well I want to get them indicted, that is where you and I differ, go ahead.
[23:00.840 --> 23:08.160]  If one of us runs out in the road I am fixing to tan his hide and we need to tan some hides
[23:08.160 --> 23:16.360]  here and upping the penalty for official oppression is a great way to do that but even then the
[23:16.360 --> 23:22.120]  prosecutors pretty well do what they want to and the one thing we try to do on this
[23:22.120 --> 23:28.480]  show more than any other is convince people who the most powerful guy in the courthouse
[23:28.480 --> 23:36.760]  is, it is you, it is the ordinary citizen, we are the baddest motor scooters in the building,
[23:36.760 --> 23:43.200]  we go in and exercise our authority and not just complain but we have a whole routine
[23:43.200 --> 23:48.080]  we run on the prosecuting attorney, we file a criminal complaint with him against a public
[23:48.080 --> 23:53.940]  official when he refuses to act then we send a criminal complaint, I like to send it to
[23:53.940 --> 24:00.320]  a high level judge, a district judge and when the district judge refuses to act on it and
[24:00.320 --> 24:06.120]  he is required to because he is a magistrate then we send a criminal complaint to the grand
[24:06.120 --> 24:12.920]  jury against the district judge accusing the district judge of shielding the prosecuting
[24:12.920 --> 24:19.240]  attorney from prosecution, so now who is going to get in your way going to the grand jury,
[24:19.240 --> 24:25.520]  the prosecutor, the complaints are against him, it makes the water get really deep that
[24:25.520 --> 24:32.560]  he is wading around in, I actually personally presented a district attorney in Johnson County
[24:32.560 --> 24:41.240]  to the grand jury and I did it this way, they realized that these rascals they set me up
[24:41.240 --> 24:46.120]  and if we can get folks doing this and one thing to understand when you file a criminal
[24:46.120 --> 24:54.000]  complaint you are absolutely protected and if anyone is afraid that the police will retaliate
[24:54.000 --> 25:00.600]  against them that is why we go to the high level judge, after I have filed a complaint
[25:00.600 --> 25:07.860]  against the highest judge I can find, if any policeman says or does anything I don't like
[25:07.860 --> 25:14.600]  I accuse that judge personally of sending that policeman to retaliate against me and
[25:14.600 --> 25:19.520]  when the judge finds out that I am charging him with retaliation because of what a policeman
[25:19.520 --> 25:28.240]  did and he is absolutely innocent he is going to go ballistic and those police will never
[25:28.240 --> 25:39.280]  bother you again, this is kind of our position, so what do you think pastor, do we have the
[25:39.280 --> 25:50.280]  pastor there, yeah I am here, so what do you think about that, no I think I need to get
[25:50.280 --> 25:56.480]  your numbers offline or have my executive make sure I get your numbers so we can strategize
[25:56.480 --> 26:03.120]  on how we need to do that, the late Vernon John said if you see a good fight get in it
[26:03.120 --> 26:09.200]  and I have added a phrase if you don't see a good fight start one, I love it, you are
[26:09.200 --> 26:19.880]  absolutely right, the ones that win the most are the ones you go down and start, they don't
[26:19.880 --> 26:27.680]  expect those to come at you, absolutely not and when you go in and there is no claim against
[26:27.680 --> 26:35.520]  you everybody has got trouble, I do this all the time I go down and pick the fight, I don't
[26:35.520 --> 26:41.080]  like when they start it but when you pick it now they really have a problem, if you
[26:41.080 --> 26:45.640]  want to start good fights pastor you are sitting in the right company I will tell you that,
[26:45.640 --> 26:57.240]  I hear it, I am feeling that, we can also tell you what not to do, I think again and
[26:57.240 --> 27:05.320]  I think it was just stated, I think Randy just said it, we have given up the power that
[27:05.320 --> 27:13.800]  we have, the power of the people, we actually and I hate to say this but I think we have
[27:13.800 --> 27:21.440]  gotten to a place where we trust our public officials and trust those who work for us
[27:21.440 --> 27:30.040]  too much and we just blindly believe them, blindly believe that they are going to automatically
[27:30.040 --> 27:36.720]  do the right thing and the truth of the matter is that is not the case and you know you need
[27:36.720 --> 27:41.380]  to have knowledge, you need to know what is going on and you need to know how to fight
[27:41.380 --> 27:48.600]  and I think what you are sharing is actually powerful information you know that most people
[27:48.600 --> 27:55.800]  will not value or appreciate until their loved one gets in trouble.
[27:55.800 --> 28:02.740]  That is precisely the situation, the only people in this country who trust the legal
[28:02.740 --> 28:11.200]  system have never had anything to do with it, we did a show, a live show at the city
[28:11.200 --> 28:16.920]  hall where chief Acevedo, the chief of police in Austin wanted to draw blood, wanted his
[28:16.920 --> 28:21.400]  officer to draw blood on the side of the highway and I asked him why, he said well he needed
[28:21.400 --> 28:26.800]  the evidence so he could increase his conviction rate and I asked him well what is your conviction
[28:26.800 --> 28:40.680]  rate now, he did not know so I said well how about say 90%, well maybe 99 maybe, 99.6 would
[28:40.680 --> 28:43.600]  you recognize a police state if you were in one.
[28:43.600 --> 28:46.440]  Yeah one more evidence they need, I don't see how the conviction rate could get much
[28:46.440 --> 28:47.440]  higher.
[28:47.440 --> 28:48.440]  Right.
[28:48.440 --> 28:54.360]  It can't, it rounds up to 100 and that is because the prosecutor controls everything
[28:54.360 --> 29:00.640]  and that is why he does not want to go after these police officers, we do not care what
[29:00.640 --> 29:07.560]  he wants to do, he is our servant and he will either obey our law or we will get out our
[29:07.560 --> 29:10.720]  paddle and we will spank him severely.
[29:10.720 --> 29:16.080]  And that is what the grand jury is for and don't let the prosecutor pump a bunch of lies
[29:16.080 --> 29:19.720]  into your head folks out there when they say well the grand jury is secret, you can't
[29:19.720 --> 29:23.040]  talk to them, you can't even know who they are and everything about them is secret, that
[29:23.040 --> 29:28.440]  is not true, the only thing about grand juries that are secret are their deliberations, that
[29:28.440 --> 29:35.200]  is it, they have minutes that are made public and it is our right to present criminal charges
[29:35.200 --> 29:40.120]  or not technically present but it is our right to inform the grand jury that crimes have
[29:40.120 --> 29:46.840]  been committed and that is even enumerated in statute, any credible person can go before
[29:46.840 --> 29:53.600]  the grand jury to inform them of criminal activity for them to investigate and look
[29:53.600 --> 29:58.400]  into and that is exactly what we need to do and the main perp here is the prosecutor,
[29:58.400 --> 29:59.400]  we will be right back.
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[32:15.880 --> 32:43.920]  When are you going to stop abusing your POW hours?
[32:43.920 --> 32:50.520]  Well they're not going to stop abusing their power, folks, until we do something about
[32:50.520 --> 32:51.520]  it.
[32:51.520 --> 32:54.600]  Please, Mr. Officer, when are you going to stop abusing the power?
[32:54.600 --> 32:58.560]  And like I said, this is not a case of police brutality.
[32:58.560 --> 33:03.680]  This is not something that would require an administrative remedy.
[33:03.680 --> 33:04.680]  This is assault.
[33:04.680 --> 33:06.760]  We've got to call it for what it is.
[33:06.760 --> 33:11.440]  So at any rate, we've got Pastor Cofield on the line here.
[33:11.440 --> 33:16.040]  Pastor, you are also the president of the NAACP Houston branch.
[33:16.040 --> 33:20.400]  So if you would please, why don't you tell our listeners, give us a background of yourself
[33:20.400 --> 33:23.440]  and your grassroots activities, and you're also a pastor.
[33:23.440 --> 33:30.200]  And how did you get involved with preaching the gospel and leading a congregation with
[33:30.200 --> 33:32.640]  the Lord and all these sorts of things?
[33:32.640 --> 33:34.960]  Can you give us a background on yourself, please?
[33:34.960 --> 33:35.960]  Sure, sure.
[33:35.960 --> 33:38.640]  I'm from New York originally.
[33:38.640 --> 33:43.280]  Born in Brooklyn, New York, grew up on the Lower East Side of New York, grew up in the
[33:43.280 --> 33:50.160]  Decker Reef Housing Project in New York City in what the section is called Alphabet City,
[33:50.160 --> 33:59.200]  and came to the Lord when I was in high school, went to college as a new believer.
[33:59.200 --> 34:06.060]  My dad started preaching, and now it's called the ministry, started preaching in an independent
[34:06.060 --> 34:10.920]  Baptist church when I was in high school.
[34:10.920 --> 34:19.080]  And I acknowledged my call to ministry my sophomore year in college, went through a
[34:19.080 --> 34:26.040]  series of events, and eventually ended up here in Houston at the Good Hope Missionary
[34:26.040 --> 34:27.040]  Baptist Church.
[34:27.040 --> 34:29.840]  I've been here for 17 years now.
[34:29.840 --> 34:35.520]  And my commitment to community, I think, has always been there.
[34:35.520 --> 34:41.920]  I've always had a heart, always had a passion to help people who couldn't help themselves.
[34:41.920 --> 34:48.840]  And for me, it really came home during the Katrina relief effort.
[34:48.840 --> 34:54.800]  We saw hundreds of thousands of people coming into the Houston metropolitan area out of
[34:54.800 --> 35:02.880]  New Orleans and the surrounding community, and I saw people not treated fairly.
[35:02.880 --> 35:09.480]  I saw people in Houston who were not being treated fairly by the city of Houston.
[35:09.480 --> 35:17.920]  I saw people who were providing relief effort on the words of FEMA and our city officials,
[35:17.920 --> 35:20.080]  and those promises were being reneged on.
[35:20.080 --> 35:27.280]  And so, you know, I got involved in that fight, not for my sake, but on behalf of small churches
[35:27.280 --> 35:34.480]  who were housing people and saw their utility bills increase 1,000%.
[35:34.480 --> 35:40.360]  And got involved then and tried to bring a level of credibility to the argument.
[35:40.360 --> 35:47.040]  I've always had a passion for juvenile justice, and so was always fighting on behalf of young
[35:47.040 --> 35:57.000]  people and fought laws and actions that attempted to treat juveniles like they were adults.
[35:57.000 --> 36:01.680]  You know, most of us, if we can remember back to when we were children, did a lot of stupid
[36:01.680 --> 36:10.160]  things, and to have a lifetime mark put on you for some mistakes were things that I just
[36:10.160 --> 36:16.080]  could not stand by and allow to happen without voicing my opinion against it.
[36:16.080 --> 36:25.200]  I got involved with the NAACP in 2009, was elected president, and took office in January
[36:25.200 --> 36:27.000]  of this year.
[36:27.000 --> 36:32.720]  And our churches, you know, we really try to take ownership of our parish by four or
[36:32.720 --> 36:34.720]  five square blocks around our church.
[36:34.720 --> 36:41.000]  We're in the third ward area of the city of Houston, kind of in the medical center area.
[36:41.000 --> 36:48.040]  I try to make sure I know everybody in the community from the store owner to the prostitutes
[36:48.040 --> 36:52.040]  to the drug dealers to the gang members.
[36:52.040 --> 36:58.400]  You know, and I claim that that's our neighborhood, that that's our territory, and we fight for
[36:58.400 --> 37:00.800]  people, you know, in our community.
[37:00.800 --> 37:06.560]  And you know, it's interesting, you know, when you stand for what's right, you know,
[37:06.560 --> 37:13.720]  I've gotten very, very little pushback from the quote-unquote undesirable element in our
[37:13.720 --> 37:18.840]  neighborhood because they know I'm serious, they know I'm committed to helping kids.
[37:18.840 --> 37:21.680]  We started a charter school for at-risk kids.
[37:21.680 --> 37:24.080]  You know, we like to say there are three kinds of kids in the world.
[37:24.080 --> 37:27.920]  There's regular strength, commercial strength, and industrial strength kids.
[37:27.920 --> 37:30.560]  We get the industrial strength kids.
[37:30.560 --> 37:33.280]  People ask me how many of our kids go to college.
[37:33.280 --> 37:36.840]  You know, the purpose of our school is to keep kids out of jail and to try to get them
[37:36.840 --> 37:39.800]  on a productive path for the rest of their lives.
[37:39.800 --> 37:45.000]  If they go to college, great, but we get just as excited when kids go to vocational school,
[37:45.000 --> 37:50.840]  when kids go into service, when they do something productive with their lives, because we believe,
[37:50.840 --> 37:55.480]  you know, every child deserves a chance, and every child is not going to go to college.
[37:55.480 --> 38:00.320]  And so, you know, we've just gotten involved and just started working.
[38:00.320 --> 38:08.200]  When this issue came up, an opportunity to leave the NAACP and fight on behalf of people,
[38:08.200 --> 38:13.520]  one of the seniors in our community came to me and said, you know, Pastor, you don't need
[38:13.520 --> 38:17.600]  the NAACP to do what you've been doing because you've been doing it in the community.
[38:17.600 --> 38:24.000]  We've been watching you, but we need you at the NAACP.
[38:24.000 --> 38:28.200]  And so, you know, I took his counsel along with several other people and got involved.
[38:28.200 --> 38:31.760]  And it's been a fascinating journey.
[38:31.760 --> 38:37.720]  And again, you know, I think what's interesting is people don't do the right thing because
[38:37.720 --> 38:39.400]  they're supposed to.
[38:39.400 --> 38:41.840]  People do the right thing for the most part because they're made to.
[38:41.840 --> 38:48.720]  And I think one of the issues that Christians in particular need to understand, you know,
[38:48.720 --> 38:56.760]  the children of Israel first missed the promised land because of an unwillingness to fight
[38:56.760 --> 38:59.400]  for what God had promised them.
[38:59.400 --> 39:03.120]  They believed that God was supposed to deliver it to them.
[39:03.120 --> 39:07.920]  They didn't believe they were supposed to put forth an effort to get what God had promised
[39:07.920 --> 39:08.920]  them.
[39:08.920 --> 39:18.360]  And people don't, especially people who know God, who are believers, just don't have a
[39:18.360 --> 39:22.320]  righteous indignation against injustice.
[39:22.320 --> 39:26.520]  And we fail to realize that justice is God's fight.
[39:26.520 --> 39:34.800]  There's a great book called Generous Justice by Timothy Keller.
[39:34.800 --> 39:36.640]  And he does a tremendous job.
[39:36.640 --> 39:40.000]  He's a white pastor of a Presbyterian church.
[39:40.000 --> 39:48.920]  But he does a tremendous job of arguing exegetically, both from the Old Testament and the New Testament,
[39:48.920 --> 39:57.640]  God's continued concern for the least, the last, the lost, the locked out, and why we
[39:57.640 --> 40:04.880]  have a responsibility as his children to take up the same mantle and to fight the same fights.
[40:04.880 --> 40:12.840]  And so that's what I live my life to do, to just help people fulfill their potential and
[40:12.840 --> 40:22.080]  to fight against the powers that be that will seek to use the system to unfairly oppress
[40:22.080 --> 40:23.080]  people.
[40:23.080 --> 40:28.640]  I don't believe people should go to jail just because they're poor.
[40:28.640 --> 40:31.320]  I believe people are actually innocent until proven guilty.
[40:31.320 --> 40:33.760]  I believe people should get a second chance.
[40:33.760 --> 40:39.360]  And so, you know, those are some of the tenets that just kind of guide what I do.
[40:39.360 --> 40:40.360]  That's wonderful.
[40:40.360 --> 40:41.360]  I like to think that-
[40:41.360 --> 40:46.640]  That's a radical notion that people should not go to jail because they're poor.
[40:46.640 --> 40:47.640]  Yeah.
[40:47.640 --> 40:48.640]  Yeah.
[40:48.640 --> 40:49.640]  Yeah.
[40:49.640 --> 40:50.640]  Especially in Harris County.
[40:50.640 --> 40:57.040]  You know, we leave the nation in death row committals.
[40:57.040 --> 41:01.560]  And you know, it's a horrible thing.
[41:01.560 --> 41:07.480]  I tell people all the time, you know, I'm very conservative in terms of my theology.
[41:07.480 --> 41:14.800]  And I believe the Bible teaches capital punishment, but I don't believe the capital punishment
[41:14.800 --> 41:17.960]  that we practice in our country and in our state.
[41:17.960 --> 41:27.360]  I've just seen too many innocent people who are wrongly convicted because district attorneys
[41:27.360 --> 41:34.640]  see a person's life as a game and they're trying to win a game instead of trying to
[41:34.640 --> 41:36.680]  find out the truth.
[41:36.680 --> 41:41.040]  And people are trying to get promoted on convictions and arrests.
[41:41.040 --> 41:43.040]  And I see all of that.
[41:43.040 --> 41:48.000]  And so it's hard for me now to say, you know, I believe in this being practiced in our state
[41:48.000 --> 41:54.160]  when I see the kinds of things, the kind of egregious, you know, prosecutions that are
[41:54.160 --> 42:01.560]  taking place in our society is something that, you know, really shifts that in any Christian
[42:01.560 --> 42:05.400]  who is concerned about people doing the right thing.
[42:05.400 --> 42:12.120]  Well that's the problem with the ability of a prosecuting attorney to get ahead is based
[42:12.120 --> 42:15.400]  upon his conviction rate, right or wrong.
[42:15.400 --> 42:23.960]  He gets promoted or gets higher office because he was successful as a prosecuting attorney.
[42:23.960 --> 42:28.400]  And his rate of success is made by the number of convictions.
[42:28.400 --> 42:31.680]  No matter how many of them get overturned later, that's irrelevant.
[42:31.680 --> 42:34.800]  That's never brought out.
[42:34.800 --> 42:37.800]  It's simply the fact that he got them convicted.
[42:37.800 --> 42:40.320]  You're absolutely right.
[42:40.320 --> 42:44.200]  And you know, we played a game here and I'm sure it's played in your county, you know,
[42:44.200 --> 42:48.720]  where, you know, they'll just keep a person in jail and just keep on resetting the case.
[42:48.720 --> 42:50.880]  We keep on resetting the case.
[42:50.880 --> 42:56.280]  You know, personal recognition bonds are almost unheard of in Harris County.
[42:56.280 --> 42:59.760]  And they set the bail so high that if you're poor, you can't get out.
[42:59.760 --> 43:03.040]  And then they offer you a deal, you know, and they'll give you time served and you get
[43:03.040 --> 43:04.040]  out.
[43:04.040 --> 43:08.040]  And you know, people, I mean, who have been in jail, not just months, some have been locked
[43:08.040 --> 43:13.840]  up for years, you know, while the district attorney is trying to build a case.
[43:13.840 --> 43:18.920]  You know, those kinds of injustices and bullying people into taking plea bargains are the kinds
[43:18.920 --> 43:23.920]  of things that I think I know the Lord would be displeased with.
[43:23.920 --> 43:26.800]  And I think we as God's people should be displeased with.
[43:26.800 --> 43:27.800]  Absolutely.
[43:27.800 --> 43:28.800]  And it's worse than that.
[43:28.800 --> 43:35.360]  There's not even a case because in most cases, the criminal complaint has not even been filed
[43:35.360 --> 43:36.360]  to the court.
[43:36.360 --> 43:41.320]  The prosecutor has committed felony tampering with a government document by holding on to
[43:41.320 --> 43:44.400]  all of the documents, nothing's filed to the court.
[43:44.400 --> 43:50.080]  And so these these victims can't even file motions or documents in their own defense
[43:50.080 --> 43:53.120]  because technically there's not even a case.
[43:53.120 --> 43:57.280]  The prosecutor holds on to everything and files it after they squeeze the deal.
[43:57.280 --> 44:00.280]  We'll be right back with Pasha Cofield.
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[46:07.320 --> 46:26.320]  If you did not have any problems, where are you going to look for one?
[46:26.320 --> 46:35.320]  If you could not wait any longer, would you purposefully die?
[46:35.320 --> 46:43.640]  All right, watching the sparks fly and hopefully this time it will be because the police are
[46:43.640 --> 46:50.880]  going to get prosecuted, which is what needs to happen in the case of Chad Holly, 15-year-old
[46:50.880 --> 46:56.560]  young man who was assaulted brutally by HPD.
[46:56.560 --> 46:58.400]  We've got to call it for what it is.
[46:58.400 --> 47:00.680]  This is not police brutality.
[47:00.680 --> 47:09.120]  This isn't an overstepping of excessive use of force or anything, any kind of euphemism
[47:09.120 --> 47:10.120]  like that.
[47:10.120 --> 47:18.240]  This is not something that would require or mandate an administrative remedy or any kind
[47:18.240 --> 47:24.680]  of, you know, punishment concerning their job that would come down, like leave without
[47:24.680 --> 47:25.680]  pay or whatever.
[47:25.680 --> 47:26.680]  This is assault.
[47:26.680 --> 47:31.680]  Okay, and there's already a statute on the books about it and I myself am committed to
[47:31.680 --> 47:37.320]  helping these people file criminal complaints under the aggravated assault statute that
[47:37.320 --> 47:43.520]  is specifically written for situations where a public servant commits aggravated assault
[47:43.520 --> 47:47.760]  in the line of duty under color of law, which is exactly what happened here.
[47:47.760 --> 47:52.160]  So that's where we need to head with this right now and in the future when these sorts
[47:52.160 --> 47:56.720]  of things happen, hopefully they can also be prosecuted under the official oppression
[47:56.720 --> 48:00.800]  statute, should this bill pass, which it looks like it's going to come out of committee.
[48:00.800 --> 48:03.480]  It seemed like the committee had a very favorable response.
[48:03.480 --> 48:06.880]  So that's where we're headed with that and we definitely want to help the family, want
[48:06.880 --> 48:08.960]  to help you, Pastor.
[48:08.960 --> 48:14.400]  And these archives are available for download at the end of the show and so y'all can download
[48:14.400 --> 48:19.400]  those and go back over them and get the information from the beginning of the show when we discuss
[48:19.400 --> 48:20.400]  those statutes.
[48:20.400 --> 48:23.840]  Now, Pastor, we have you on for one more segment.
[48:23.840 --> 48:29.560]  Can you please tell us, just to get a little history of how you got involved with this,
[48:29.560 --> 48:34.880]  with Chad Holly's family and Boris Miles, how was this connection made?
[48:34.880 --> 48:38.760]  Is Chad Holly and their family part of your congregation or did they come to you through
[48:38.760 --> 48:45.000]  another group and how did this matter be brought to Representative Boris Miles?
[48:45.000 --> 48:57.000]  Well, the lady who actually saw the footage on the security camera called Minister Cornel
[48:57.000 --> 49:05.400]  X, who's one of the activists in our community, and gave him a copy of the footage, he in
[49:05.400 --> 49:17.880]  turn turned it over to the police chief who viewed it, turned a copy over to the district
[49:17.880 --> 49:30.920]  attorney and called the FBI to begin a federal investigation of what was going on.
[49:30.920 --> 49:37.880]  Once that happened, everything kind of died down because nobody had seen the video.
[49:37.880 --> 49:49.240]  But then one of the officers filed a case, a complaint against Cornel X.
[49:49.240 --> 49:58.360]  Well, when that officer filed that complaint, then the judge ruled that Cornel could get
[49:58.360 --> 50:01.280]  a copy of the videotape.
[50:01.280 --> 50:05.200]  Previous to that, I don't think Cornel had even viewed the videotape.
[50:05.200 --> 50:11.240]  He turned it right over to the police, but I guess he hadn't released it.
[50:11.240 --> 50:13.920]  I think he viewed it, but he hadn't released it.
[50:13.920 --> 50:21.560]  So there was such an uproar at that point that he called several stations to release
[50:21.560 --> 50:22.560]  it.
[50:22.560 --> 50:27.680]  It's interesting, and this again speaks to the system in our country.
[50:27.680 --> 50:37.840]  No news media outlet was willing to take it and release it except for the ABC affiliate
[50:37.840 --> 50:44.800]  here in Houston, who basically said, if we're going to get sued, then let them sue us, but
[50:44.800 --> 50:46.840]  we're going to put it out there.
[50:46.840 --> 50:54.440]  The judge that had put the gag order on it, of course, his gag order was not inclusive
[50:54.440 --> 51:00.320]  of the media because the media wasn't part of it, tried to get the case, tried to get
[51:00.320 --> 51:05.320]  it stopped from being released, was too late, it was released.
[51:05.320 --> 51:13.640]  We got a call from Cornel after the initial release because at that point, he was being
[51:13.640 --> 51:19.680]  threatened and people, there was a lot of backlash against the release of it.
[51:19.680 --> 51:26.400]  He was threatened by some people in the city, police officers were upset, the mayor was
[51:26.400 --> 51:34.440]  upset, and so he came to us and we basically stood with him in solidarity saying, justice
[51:34.440 --> 51:35.440]  is justice.
[51:35.440 --> 51:40.360]  There were some complaints made and people were saying that the case is going to be moved
[51:40.360 --> 51:43.040]  because the officers couldn't get a fair trial.
[51:43.040 --> 51:49.120]  Well, the truth of the matter is the record of the district attorney in Harris County
[51:49.120 --> 51:55.280]  convicting law enforcement officers of anything is abysmal.
[51:55.280 --> 51:59.200]  That just doesn't happen in Harris County.
[51:59.200 --> 52:05.840]  There was no reason to think that if it stays in Harris County, it's going to go the way
[52:05.840 --> 52:08.440]  of true justice.
[52:08.440 --> 52:15.960]  That's how we got involved in the case as we started holding hearings and that's when
[52:15.960 --> 52:23.800]  we started learning about the number of people who were coming out saying, hey, we had problems
[52:23.800 --> 52:25.520]  with the police.
[52:25.520 --> 52:31.000]  Police use excessive force and in our situation, people who testified, loved ones who were
[52:31.000 --> 52:41.960]  killed by the police, erroneously, bad tips, policemen going in the houses, pulling guns
[52:41.960 --> 52:45.280]  on innocent people and shooting them.
[52:45.280 --> 52:52.920]  It was just a plethora of things that came out and it was just amazing to see the systemic
[52:52.920 --> 52:59.880]  issues that are part of law enforcement and those complaints were made against the Harris
[52:59.880 --> 53:05.160]  County Sheriff's Department, made against constables and made against the Houston Police
[53:05.160 --> 53:06.160]  Department.
[53:06.160 --> 53:14.840]  There's just a mentality there and the sad part is, number one, while there are good
[53:14.840 --> 53:22.920]  cops in the system, the system is not set up to encourage good cops.
[53:22.920 --> 53:30.720]  There are people who would say, hey, I've heard numbers as high as 20 percent of officers
[53:30.720 --> 53:33.720]  are bad.
[53:33.720 --> 53:39.560]  The problem is that 80 percent of officers are not encouraged and there is no system
[53:39.560 --> 53:43.840]  to support them when they step up and say enough is enough.
[53:43.840 --> 53:46.280]  No, and in fact, the bad officers are encouraged.
[53:46.280 --> 53:48.280]  They are the ones that get promoted.
[53:48.280 --> 53:49.280]  Exactly.
[53:49.280 --> 53:50.280]  You're exactly right.
[53:50.280 --> 53:55.600]  The bad officers get promoted, the bad officers get protected, the good officers get hung
[53:55.600 --> 54:02.360]  out to dry, the bad officers, especially if their buddies are in leadership in the union,
[54:02.360 --> 54:08.920]  they make sure they get the arbitrators who rule in favor of the police no matter what.
[54:08.920 --> 54:17.280]  So give an example with the Chad Holly incident, the chief of police fired seven of the officers.
[54:17.280 --> 54:21.640]  Four of them were indicted, criminal oppression.
[54:21.640 --> 54:26.640]  Two of them were also indicted on a violation of the young man's civil rights.
[54:26.640 --> 54:33.880]  Two of the three officers who were not charged but were terminated by the police chief, their
[54:33.880 --> 54:37.200]  jobs were given back to them by an arbitrator.
[54:37.200 --> 54:41.600]  The third one, his firing, was upheld.
[54:41.600 --> 54:50.160]  So one of the questions that we have is what is the arbitration process and how can three
[54:50.160 --> 54:58.280]  arbitrators at a case and one of them uphold the chief's decision, two of them overturn
[54:58.280 --> 54:59.280]  the chief's decision.
[54:59.280 --> 55:03.840]  Now those two that were overturned, the city has filed an appeal and they're going through
[55:03.840 --> 55:12.800]  that process but it just shows you how this whole systemic injustice is multi-layered
[55:12.800 --> 55:17.640]  and how we can't fight it coming at it from just one angle, we've got to come at it from
[55:17.640 --> 55:18.640]  multiple angles.
[55:18.640 --> 55:23.360]  Absolutely and the prosecutor is one of the biggest problems, if not the biggest problem
[55:23.360 --> 55:29.360]  because he protects these rogues by not prosecuting them and then trying to get in the way of
[55:29.360 --> 55:31.040]  us being able to get to the grand jury.
[55:31.040 --> 55:35.680]  And speaking to the prosecutor, pastor, I wanted to ask you, what is your take on this
[55:35.680 --> 55:40.480]  prosecutor giving a neutral testimony on this bill?
[55:40.480 --> 55:46.520]  I thought that was very bizarre and almost seemed like, well, he's really against it
[55:46.520 --> 55:51.080]  but he doesn't want to say it but he can't say he's for it either and I'll tell you what,
[55:51.080 --> 55:57.400]  that committee really grilled him hard and I was loving every minute of it and we actually
[55:57.400 --> 56:04.640]  played the whole committee hearing on this bill on our show, not this past Friday but
[56:04.640 --> 56:08.240]  the Friday before that so folks can download that archive and hear that, they can hear
[56:08.240 --> 56:09.240]  your testimony.
[56:09.240 --> 56:16.520]  But what is your take on this prosecutor giving this neutral, you know, weasely testimony
[56:16.520 --> 56:17.520]  in front of the committee?
[56:17.520 --> 56:18.960]  What did you think about that?
[56:18.960 --> 56:24.720]  I'll be honest with you, I don't even know why they were there, quite honestly.
[56:24.720 --> 56:33.400]  I would not have sent a representative to be there to be a neutral witness or give a
[56:33.400 --> 56:40.560]  neutral testimony to the bill unless I was summoned by somebody or the chair of that
[56:40.560 --> 56:41.560]  committee.
[56:41.560 --> 56:45.040]  I wouldn't have sent anybody because it just looked absolutely ridiculous and you're absolutely
[56:45.040 --> 56:46.040]  right.
[56:46.040 --> 56:52.040]  I mean, I was sitting there like, wow, he is getting grilled and he's doing his best
[56:52.040 --> 56:57.240]  to keep this neutral position but it's not looking good for the district attorney at
[56:57.240 --> 56:58.240]  all.
[56:58.240 --> 57:00.080]  Oh, it did not look good for him at all.
[57:00.080 --> 57:02.360]  I was sitting there cracking up, I couldn't believe it.
[57:02.360 --> 57:06.960]  I mean, Randy calls it the chicken dance, that was the best chicken dance I ever saw,
[57:06.960 --> 57:09.200]  the guys shuffling from one foot to the next.
[57:09.200 --> 57:11.200]  I mean, it was unbelievable.
[57:11.200 --> 57:15.400]  Well, Pastor, is this video on YouTube so folks can go watch it?
[57:15.400 --> 57:21.800]  I believe it is, it should be on there now if you, yeah, I think, yeah, I'm almost sure
[57:21.800 --> 57:22.800]  it is.
[57:22.800 --> 57:31.720]  If you go on there and YouTube, Chad Holly, H-O-L-L-E-Y, Chad Holly Beating, it's probably
[57:31.720 --> 57:40.000]  the ABC affiliate video, Channel 13, which is actually the station that had the courage.
[57:40.000 --> 57:45.920]  Wayne DelSofino is the reporter who had the courage to say, hey, we're going to show this
[57:45.920 --> 57:51.440]  and like I said, you know, and here's the interesting thing about this.
[57:51.440 --> 57:58.360]  The young man that they beat was not in the house that was burglarized.
[57:58.360 --> 58:04.920]  The police officers testified that they're not even sure he was a lookout or if he was
[58:04.920 --> 58:07.360]  just with the guy.
[58:07.360 --> 58:12.120]  But again, you know, guilt by association, he's with them.
[58:12.120 --> 58:17.480]  When they go after them, he jumps out of the truck, you know, they jump on them and the
[58:17.480 --> 58:18.480]  rest is history.
[58:18.480 --> 58:24.320]  But your viewers can check it out there at YouTube, Chad Holly Beating in Houston, Texas.
[58:24.320 --> 58:25.320]  All right.
[58:25.320 --> 58:31.320]  Well, listen, we are at the end of the first hour, Pastor Cofield, we appreciate you standing
[58:31.320 --> 58:36.680]  up for what is right and doing what is right in the eyes of the Lord and what is right
[58:36.680 --> 58:39.360]  in the eyes of those who are righteous.
[58:39.360 --> 58:43.200]  We believe it's the right thing to do and we're behind you and behind this family 100
[58:43.200 --> 58:44.200]  percent.
[58:44.200 --> 58:45.200]  We'll do everything we can to help.
[58:45.200 --> 58:46.200]  Thank you for joining us this evening.
[58:46.200 --> 58:51.400]  Well, I appreciate it and please keep up the great work of challenging those of us who
[58:51.400 --> 58:56.180]  are Christians that we cannot be so heavenly minded that we know earthly good.
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[01:03:23.920 --> 01:03:32.720]  All right, listeners, we are back and Pastor DZ Cofield has agreed to stay with us for
[01:03:32.720 --> 01:03:37.320]  just a few more minutes because we didn't get all of our questions answered here.
[01:03:37.320 --> 01:03:42.000]  We wanted to know, there were two issues that he's going to address before he has to go
[01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:46.160]  and he's got other engagements right now that he needs to get to, but we appreciate you
[01:03:46.160 --> 01:03:47.960]  staying on for a few extra moments.
[01:03:47.960 --> 01:03:55.760]  We wanted to know how did this whole situation, how was it brought to Boris Miles, Representative
[01:03:55.760 --> 01:04:00.400]  Boris Miles for him to do something about it, how did that whole thing get orchestrated
[01:04:00.400 --> 01:04:06.320]  and also apparently there was a threat against Representative Boris Miles for introducing
[01:04:06.320 --> 01:04:07.320]  this bill.
[01:04:07.320 --> 01:04:11.640]  If you could go over those two situations, we'd appreciate it, Pastor.
[01:04:11.640 --> 01:04:20.880]  We had a town hall meeting regarding the Chad Holly beating and any of your listeners who
[01:04:20.880 --> 01:04:27.520]  would pull that YouTube video up, I think would just be... I mean, you can't help but
[01:04:27.520 --> 01:04:31.680]  be shocked at behavior of the police officers.
[01:04:31.680 --> 01:04:36.880]  This young man was not resisting in any way, was not fighting in any way and to run up
[01:04:36.880 --> 01:04:42.320]  and stomp him on the head, stomp his legs, attempt to kick him in the groin while he's
[01:04:42.320 --> 01:04:46.880]  laying down, not resisting at all, even after he's handcuffed.
[01:04:46.880 --> 01:04:52.800]  The total time in real time from when the first blow was struck to the last blow was
[01:04:52.800 --> 01:05:01.000]  about a minute and 30 seconds, so it was that kind of egregious activity.
[01:05:01.000 --> 01:05:06.000]  We had a town hall meeting with the mayor, people police was invited, he sent his first
[01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:12.080]  assistant, he was out of town, and the district attorney, she sent her first assistant, Mr.
[01:05:12.080 --> 01:05:19.360]  Jim Leitner to come and to be honest with you, they faced a very angry crowd that was
[01:05:19.360 --> 01:05:24.800]  concerned about how something like this could happen.
[01:05:24.800 --> 01:05:31.720]  Jim Leitner, the first assistant district attorney stood and said, and there's footage
[01:05:31.720 --> 01:05:37.920]  of him saying this, that that's the only thing that they had to charge those officers with
[01:05:37.920 --> 01:05:43.920]  because there was not excessive force used that resulted in bodily injury.
[01:05:43.920 --> 01:05:48.360]  He said that's the only thing they could be charged with.
[01:05:48.360 --> 01:05:54.840]  Representative Miles was not there, but he was in phone contact with our leaders who
[01:05:54.840 --> 01:05:56.560]  were in the meeting.
[01:05:56.560 --> 01:06:02.920]  They informed him of what was said, he called and said, listen, if the district attorney
[01:06:02.920 --> 01:06:07.520]  is saying they cannot charge these officers with anything else, that's all that's on
[01:06:07.520 --> 01:06:08.520]  the books.
[01:06:08.520 --> 01:06:15.840]  He said that I make a commitment tonight to file a bill to increase the penalty for the
[01:06:15.840 --> 01:06:18.920]  use of excessive force.
[01:06:18.920 --> 01:06:23.320]  And I think your listeners really need to understand, we're not talking about, number
[01:06:23.320 --> 01:06:27.400]  one, a grown man, we're talking about a 15 year old kid.
[01:06:27.400 --> 01:06:34.080]  Number two, this young man was not resisting arrest in any way, shape, form or fashion.
[01:06:34.080 --> 01:06:38.460]  Number three, for most of the beating, he was handcuffed.
[01:06:38.460 --> 01:06:44.400]  So here he is handcuffed on the ground and you have seven officers who were teeing off
[01:06:44.400 --> 01:06:45.400]  on this young man.
[01:06:45.400 --> 01:06:49.280]  I mean, it was absolutely, absolutely ridiculous.
[01:06:49.280 --> 01:06:52.240]  And so that's how Representative Boris Miles got involved.
[01:06:52.240 --> 01:06:57.320]  When he went to file the bill and that bill was initially filed, he was approached, if
[01:06:57.320 --> 01:07:05.680]  I'm not mistaken, by some officials of police unions who were there lobbying on behalf of
[01:07:05.680 --> 01:07:13.280]  police officers and them getting as many laws as possible to protect rogue officers in their
[01:07:13.280 --> 01:07:14.280]  misbehavior.
[01:07:14.280 --> 01:07:21.720]  And he was informed that the last time somebody tried to file something like that or file
[01:07:21.720 --> 01:07:27.160]  something against an officer, that he found sugar in his tank.
[01:07:27.160 --> 01:07:31.680]  And there was something else that was said and the guy kind of, you know, tried to kind
[01:07:31.680 --> 01:07:37.920]  of laugh it off like, you know, ha ha ha ha, word to the wise should be sufficient.
[01:07:37.920 --> 01:07:42.840]  And you know, so, you know, Representative Miles said, you know, okay, I hear what you're
[01:07:42.840 --> 01:07:47.000]  saying, I'm going to file the bill anyway, this is what we're going to do.
[01:07:47.000 --> 01:07:52.320]  And so we appreciated, you know, our state representative for having that kind of courage.
[01:07:52.320 --> 01:07:58.200]  He filed the bill, he filed it alone, no other state representatives jumped on the bandwagon
[01:07:58.200 --> 01:07:59.200]  with him.
[01:07:59.200 --> 01:08:05.040]  But, you know, we believe that truth and justice will win out.
[01:08:05.040 --> 01:08:11.920]  Absolutely, I believe that too, because the Lord Jesus is in control of everything and
[01:08:11.920 --> 01:08:13.800]  we are here to do his work.
[01:08:13.800 --> 01:08:17.080]  And that's what I would like to believe that we are doing right now.
[01:08:17.080 --> 01:08:19.800]  Well, Pastor, thank you so much for joining us.
[01:08:19.800 --> 01:08:22.120]  Do you have anything else you would like to add before we let you go?
[01:08:22.120 --> 01:08:24.320]  You want to plug your website or anything else?
[01:08:24.320 --> 01:08:29.800]  Sure, I mean, anybody can come and check out a church if you're in the Houston area, the
[01:08:29.800 --> 01:08:38.360]  Good Hope Missionary Baptist Church, you can go to goodhope.org, one word, G-O-O-D-H-O-P-E.org
[01:08:38.360 --> 01:08:39.360]  and check us out.
[01:08:39.360 --> 01:08:44.200]  You can download some of our sermons, podcasting, see what our ministry is about.
[01:08:44.200 --> 01:08:48.800]  You know, God has really blessed us and, you know, we're trying to be the best church that
[01:08:48.800 --> 01:08:55.760]  we can be touching people holistically, mentally, emotionally, physically, and spiritually.
[01:08:55.760 --> 01:08:59.000]  And we believe that's the commission that God has given us and so we certainly want
[01:08:59.000 --> 01:09:05.560]  to solicit the prayers of, you know, your listening audience for God's covering to be
[01:09:05.560 --> 01:09:11.560]  upon us and His protection to continue to walk beside us, that we can do, you know,
[01:09:11.560 --> 01:09:16.040]  the work that God has for us to do for the season that we're here to serve.
[01:09:16.040 --> 01:09:17.040]  Amen to that.
[01:09:17.040 --> 01:09:24.800]  All right, well, listen, Pastor, you and your assistant have our contact information.
[01:09:24.800 --> 01:09:30.280]  Shana Lynn has our phone numbers and if you all don't have the email addresses, that's
[01:09:30.280 --> 01:09:35.160]  on the website, ruleoflawradio.com, and we'll have an archive of this show posted shortly
[01:09:35.160 --> 01:09:36.160]  after the show.
[01:09:36.160 --> 01:09:37.160]  All right.
[01:09:37.160 --> 01:09:38.160]  I look forward to it.
[01:09:38.160 --> 01:09:39.160]  Thank you all again.
[01:09:39.160 --> 01:09:40.160]  All right.
[01:09:40.160 --> 01:09:41.160]  Thank you, Pastor.
[01:09:41.160 --> 01:09:42.160]  I look forward to talking to you again soon.
[01:09:42.160 --> 01:09:43.160]  All right.
[01:09:43.160 --> 01:09:44.160]  All right.
[01:09:44.160 --> 01:09:45.160]  You have a good night.
[01:09:45.160 --> 01:09:46.160]  All right.
[01:09:46.160 --> 01:09:47.160]  There he goes.
[01:09:47.160 --> 01:09:48.160]  That was Pastor D.Z.
[01:09:48.160 --> 01:09:54.680]  Cofield from the Good Hope Missionary Baptist Church in Houston doing the work of the Lord,
[01:09:54.680 --> 01:10:01.560]  working for justice for Chad Holly, an incredibly unfortunate situation, and we are going to
[01:10:01.560 --> 01:10:05.480]  try to fight for this young man's justice indeed.
[01:10:05.480 --> 01:10:06.480]  Okay.
[01:10:06.480 --> 01:10:08.920]  So, we are now into the second hour.
[01:10:08.920 --> 01:10:16.440]  Callers, if you'd like to call us on this topic or any other, you can call 512-646-1984.
[01:10:16.440 --> 01:10:19.980]  We've got open topic now, so you're welcome to call about any topics.
[01:10:19.980 --> 01:10:25.600]  In the meantime, while we're waiting on your calls, Eddie, you had some motions you wanted
[01:10:25.600 --> 01:10:26.600]  to discuss.
[01:10:26.600 --> 01:10:33.840]  Yeah, I've actually been working on some new documentation for the seminar today.
[01:10:33.840 --> 01:10:38.240]  There are three new documents that I've come up with.
[01:10:38.240 --> 01:10:45.720]  One is a motion to disqualify the judge, along with an affidavit in support of that disqualification.
[01:10:45.720 --> 01:10:50.560]  Now, what both the motion and the affidavit deal with, for those of you that have been
[01:10:50.560 --> 01:10:56.760]  to the seminar classes and everything, is the failure of the magistrate to perform their
[01:10:56.760 --> 01:11:06.280]  duties in accordance with Article 15.17G, and then the remainder of 1517 itself, along
[01:11:06.280 --> 01:11:11.080]  with a few other minor articles of the Code of Criminal Procedure.
[01:11:11.080 --> 01:11:15.680]  Basically, we spell it out, here's where the judge has violated law.
[01:11:15.680 --> 01:11:23.520]  The judge has gone directly from the initial appearance, skipped over the examining trial,
[01:11:23.520 --> 01:11:30.040]  and without performing any of the necessary steps mandated by law, moved directly to arraignment
[01:11:30.040 --> 01:11:37.080]  and entered a plea on behalf of the defendant, all of that absent any jurisdiction because
[01:11:37.080 --> 01:11:41.600]  there is no complaint in charging instrument in the file.
[01:11:41.600 --> 01:11:48.200]  So how's a magistrate going to enter a plea by denial of due process and violations of
[01:11:48.200 --> 01:11:50.120]  law and get away with it?
[01:11:50.120 --> 01:11:52.120]  These documents say, you're not.
[01:11:52.120 --> 01:11:57.560]  Now, on top of that, the third document that I've been working on to go with that is the
[01:11:57.560 --> 01:12:00.880]  motion to withdraw the magisterially entered plea.
[01:12:00.880 --> 01:12:05.640]  In other words, I don't care what you entered on my behalf, here's the motion to withdraw
[01:12:05.640 --> 01:12:09.080]  it because you didn't have the authority to make it.
[01:12:09.080 --> 01:12:14.800]  There's also a reiteration of the fact that you violated law to try to railroad me into
[01:12:14.800 --> 01:12:19.640]  your jurisdiction, and I'm not having any of that.
[01:12:19.640 --> 01:12:24.160]  So along with the other updates I've been working on over the past three or four weeks
[01:12:24.160 --> 01:12:30.040]  in the seminar material documents, there will soon be a documents update as far as the legal
[01:12:30.040 --> 01:12:33.400]  paperwork for the seminar material, folks.
[01:12:33.400 --> 01:12:38.440]  So as soon as we have that done, I will make sure and get that in Deborah's hands, or if
[01:12:38.440 --> 01:12:44.120]  you've got the seminar, you can send me your seminar information as far as the download
[01:12:44.120 --> 01:12:48.960]  page that you were sent by Deborah originally, and I will email you the updated documents
[01:12:48.960 --> 01:12:52.440]  and take some of the load off of her having to contend with it.
[01:12:52.440 --> 01:13:03.000]  So hopefully by the first part of next week, these will all be completed and ready to go.
[01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:04.000]  That's all I got, Deborah.
[01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:05.000]  All right.
[01:13:05.000 --> 01:13:06.000]  Very good.
[01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:07.000]  Okay.
[01:13:07.000 --> 01:13:08.000]  I have a little.
[01:13:08.000 --> 01:13:10.160]  Go ahead, Randy.
[01:13:10.160 --> 01:13:19.440]  I went to Cherokee County last Monday, and I got to see a judge do a chicken dance.
[01:13:19.440 --> 01:13:27.120]  You know, I get on the show here, and sometimes I get rather pompous, and I say.
[01:13:27.120 --> 01:13:28.120]  Sometimes.
[01:13:28.120 --> 01:13:36.400]  Well, you should do this, and you should do that, and then I went to Cherokee County to
[01:13:36.400 --> 01:13:45.280]  file criminal charges against this judge, and went to his courtroom while he's having
[01:13:45.280 --> 01:13:52.040]  a hearing over Robert Fox, and stood up in the courtroom and told him that I have just
[01:13:52.040 --> 01:13:58.200]  filed criminal charges against you with the grand jury for criminal acts you committed
[01:13:58.200 --> 01:14:03.200]  in this court in this particular trial.
[01:14:03.200 --> 01:14:06.680]  You do need to stand down from that bench.
[01:14:06.680 --> 01:14:12.560]  Well the judge told me I need to get the heck out of his courtroom, and he sent a bailiff
[01:14:12.560 --> 01:14:17.160]  over with a big pistol to ensure that that happened.
[01:14:17.160 --> 01:14:26.640]  The next day, the judge issued a warrant for my arrest on an allegation that I was operating
[01:14:26.640 --> 01:14:31.560]  a investigating business without a license.
[01:14:31.560 --> 01:14:37.360]  This was in 2009, and they've pretty well been after me ever since.
[01:14:37.360 --> 01:14:42.200]  I went to Cherokee County for trial.
[01:14:42.200 --> 01:14:54.080]  I had trial set, but the problem was I'd never been to their court for any kind of hearing.
[01:14:54.080 --> 01:15:01.800]  I was there once before, but I had filed a motion to disqualify, and Eddie was with me
[01:15:01.800 --> 01:15:02.800]  that time.
[01:15:02.800 --> 01:15:05.320]  I drove 200 miles.
[01:15:05.320 --> 01:15:08.520]  We left at, what, two in the morning, Eddie?
[01:15:08.520 --> 01:15:11.160]  Yes, something like that.
[01:15:11.160 --> 01:15:16.360]  Drove out there, walked into his courtroom, and he said, Mr. Kelton, you have a motion
[01:15:16.360 --> 01:15:22.680]  to disqualify, but I'm going to treat it as a motion to recuse, and I'm going to forward
[01:15:22.680 --> 01:15:26.320]  it to the head administrative judge of the district.
[01:15:26.320 --> 01:15:35.560]  I said, you made me drive 200 miles for this?
[01:15:35.560 --> 01:15:39.600]  Well, Mr. Kelton, it's your motion that brought us here.
[01:15:39.600 --> 01:15:41.400]  Well, it shouldn't have brought us here.
[01:15:41.400 --> 01:15:44.920]  You should have just sent it when you first got it.
[01:15:44.920 --> 01:15:49.200]  So we came back.
[01:15:49.200 --> 01:15:53.720]  After that, he sent my motion to disqualify to the head administrative judge of the district.
[01:15:53.720 --> 01:15:55.960]  This is Judge Ovart.
[01:15:55.960 --> 01:16:05.960]  Judge Ovart is a retired judge, and the district judges in 35 counties in East Texas elected
[01:16:05.960 --> 01:16:10.480]  him as an administrative judge.
[01:16:10.480 --> 01:16:17.920]  What he does is he administrates the business of the court, and an added duty is when a
[01:16:17.920 --> 01:16:21.760]  motion is made to recuse or disqualify.
[01:16:21.760 --> 01:16:27.800]  That motion is required to be forwarded to him, and he is to appoint a judge to hear
[01:16:27.800 --> 01:16:28.800]  the motion.
[01:16:28.800 --> 01:16:33.240]  But this judge has a peculiar habit.
[01:16:33.240 --> 01:16:36.360]  If you're a pro se litigant, he just trashes your motion.
[01:16:36.360 --> 01:16:39.360]  He dismisses it.
[01:16:39.360 --> 01:16:43.720]  And that's a bad thing, and we'll explain why it's a bad thing when we get back on the
[01:16:43.720 --> 01:16:44.720]  other side.
[01:16:44.720 --> 01:16:48.120]  Will you bring us out there, but I'll have the page up.
[01:16:48.120 --> 01:16:51.160]  All right, folks, we'll be back, and we do have a number of callers on the board.
[01:16:51.160 --> 01:16:53.080]  We've got Ben, Frank, and Paul.
[01:16:53.080 --> 01:16:54.080]  Hang on the line.
[01:16:54.080 --> 01:16:56.080]  We'll be taking your calls when we get back on the other side.
[01:16:56.080 --> 01:17:00.680]  We'll be right back.
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[01:18:20.000 --> 01:18:22.360]  thousands, but there is a remedy.
[01:18:22.360 --> 01:18:31.640]  Go to remediesinrealestate.com or call me at 512-430-4140 and find out how to use the
[01:18:31.640 --> 01:18:37.220]  consumer protection laws to recover what the lenders have stolen through fraud and deception.
[01:18:37.220 --> 01:18:42.040]  We will prepare for you a qualified written request that will expose the fraud and put
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[01:19:02.640 --> 01:19:25.640]  Alright folks, we are back, we are going to start taking your calls in just a moment.
[01:19:25.640 --> 01:19:28.640]  Okay Randy, you wanted to finish your story first.
[01:19:28.640 --> 01:19:34.800]  Okay, this judge dismissed my complaint, he said he, my motion to disqualify, he said
[01:19:34.800 --> 01:19:37.160]  he was going to treat it as a motion to recuse.
[01:19:37.160 --> 01:19:39.160]  There is a difference.
[01:19:39.160 --> 01:19:43.400]  And dismissed it because it wasn't verified.
[01:19:43.400 --> 01:19:49.720]  Problem, first, it was filed as a motion to disqualify and a motion to disqualify does
[01:19:49.720 --> 01:19:55.240]  not have to be verified, that's why he decided to treat it as a motion to recuse.
[01:19:55.240 --> 01:20:00.360]  Second, he is the head administrative judge of the district.
[01:20:00.360 --> 01:20:04.840]  He has no judicial authority.
[01:20:04.840 --> 01:20:10.760]  And when I tell you, you know, if you are going to win these cases, you got to fight,
[01:20:10.760 --> 01:20:12.360]  you got to be willing to take them on.
[01:20:12.360 --> 01:20:17.720]  But when I got down there and they had issued a hearing, set a hearing and didn't notify
[01:20:17.720 --> 01:20:24.760]  me, held a hearing, issued a warrant, $10,000 cash bond, they really wanted me in their
[01:20:24.760 --> 01:20:25.760]  hands.
[01:20:25.760 --> 01:20:30.840]  And I am down there thinking, you know, I have been telling everybody you ought to do
[01:20:30.840 --> 01:20:36.240]  these things, but now the shoe is on my foot.
[01:20:36.240 --> 01:20:43.600]  And knowing what I know, it was still hard, but not that hard, I filed two criminal charges
[01:20:43.600 --> 01:20:48.600]  against the head administrative judge of the district, accused him of impersonating a judicial
[01:20:48.600 --> 01:20:56.400]  officer and of acting in conspiracy with the local judge, the local prosecutor and all
[01:20:56.400 --> 01:20:59.800]  these other people I filed criminal charges with.
[01:20:59.800 --> 01:21:06.360]  When the judge saw that, the local judge, he liked to have crapped his drawers.
[01:21:06.360 --> 01:21:13.280]  The judge was not the least bit afraid of me, but he was afraid of that head administrative
[01:21:13.280 --> 01:21:14.280]  judge of the district.
[01:21:14.280 --> 01:21:21.560]  And when I filed criminal charges against him, accusing the head administrative judge
[01:21:21.560 --> 01:21:26.800]  of conspiring with this local judge, this local judge could see his career pass before
[01:21:26.800 --> 01:21:29.000]  his eyes.
[01:21:29.000 --> 01:21:35.840]  And all of a sudden, he's wanting to do everything he can to get my case dismissed.
[01:21:35.840 --> 01:21:42.000]  So when I tell you everything is about politics, everything is politics.
[01:21:42.000 --> 01:21:47.640]  And the way you get politics is you bring somebody higher up and hit these guys lower
[01:21:47.640 --> 01:21:53.360]  down on the head with them, and you can't be bashful.
[01:21:53.360 --> 01:21:56.720]  You can't be shy.
[01:21:56.720 --> 01:22:00.320]  Looks like the next time I go in, this whole case is going to go away.
[01:22:00.320 --> 01:22:02.960]  So that's my going locker rooster for the day.
[01:22:02.960 --> 01:22:03.960]  We've got a bunch of callers.
[01:22:03.960 --> 01:22:07.280]  I moved kind of quickly because I don't want to short everybody up.
[01:22:07.280 --> 01:22:08.280]  All right.
[01:22:08.280 --> 01:22:09.880]  Good for you, Randy.
[01:22:09.880 --> 01:22:12.040]  Half claps all around.
[01:22:12.040 --> 01:22:13.040]  All right.
[01:22:13.040 --> 01:22:14.040]  Here we go.
[01:22:14.040 --> 01:22:18.000]  I was patting myself on the back, but I think I sprained my wrist.
[01:22:18.000 --> 01:22:19.000]  Okay.
[01:22:19.000 --> 01:22:22.480]  And, you know, Randy, it's not just talking the talk.
[01:22:22.480 --> 01:22:27.000]  I mean, you've done this many, many times, so it's not just like you tell people to do
[01:22:27.000 --> 01:22:28.000]  it and don't do it.
[01:22:28.000 --> 01:22:31.920]  You've already been doing it for years, so you don't need to make excuses or anything.
[01:22:31.920 --> 01:22:32.920]  Okay.
[01:22:32.920 --> 01:22:33.920]  Oh, yes.
[01:22:33.920 --> 01:22:34.920]  Oh, yes.
[01:22:34.920 --> 01:22:35.920]  Wait, wait.
[01:22:35.920 --> 01:22:45.280]  Hey, Craig, he was there whipping the attorneys in the building apart, hammering the district
[01:22:45.280 --> 01:22:47.960]  attorney, going after the grand jury.
[01:22:47.960 --> 01:22:49.680]  Randy Wailer was there.
[01:22:49.680 --> 01:22:52.000]  Will McNamara was there.
[01:22:52.000 --> 01:22:55.880]  I appreciate everyone who was there.
[01:22:55.880 --> 01:22:58.000]  Robert Fox was there.
[01:22:58.000 --> 01:22:59.560]  Shirley Nelson was there.
[01:22:59.560 --> 01:23:07.200]  We had people show up, and the bailiff was running around trying to figure out who everybody
[01:23:07.200 --> 01:23:08.200]  was.
[01:23:08.200 --> 01:23:09.680]  It's none of his business who everybody is.
[01:23:09.680 --> 01:23:10.680]  It's a public court.
[01:23:10.680 --> 01:23:11.680]  Anybody can go in.
[01:23:11.680 --> 01:23:12.680]  Yeah.
[01:23:12.680 --> 01:23:14.280]  But they were really worried.
[01:23:14.280 --> 01:23:15.280]  Will wouldn't tell her.
[01:23:15.280 --> 01:23:23.040]  I told him, you don't know me, you're a gadfly, and he really jerked them around.
[01:23:23.040 --> 01:23:24.960]  They did everything they could to find out.
[01:23:24.960 --> 01:23:27.280]  They said, well, you know, Mr. Kelton's going to sit in the courtroom.
[01:23:27.280 --> 01:23:29.280]  He said, who's Mr. Kelton?
[01:23:29.280 --> 01:23:31.800]  He's the one who's here to trial.
[01:23:31.800 --> 01:23:32.800]  He's in the courtroom.
[01:23:32.800 --> 01:23:33.800]  He said, is he the judge?
[01:23:33.800 --> 01:23:36.800]  No, he's not the judge.
[01:23:36.800 --> 01:23:42.800]  The bailiff was clearly perturbed because he didn't know who all these people were.
[01:23:42.800 --> 01:23:44.200]  It shouldn't matter to him.
[01:23:44.200 --> 01:23:45.200]  It's an open court.
[01:23:45.200 --> 01:23:46.800]  It's a public court.
[01:23:46.800 --> 01:23:47.800]  I know that.
[01:23:47.800 --> 01:23:53.640]  But the point is, when you have people come and support you in court, that is really a
[01:23:53.640 --> 01:23:54.640]  big deal.
[01:23:54.640 --> 01:23:55.640]  Yeah, it is.
[01:23:55.640 --> 01:23:56.640]  All right.
[01:23:56.640 --> 01:23:57.640]  Very well.
[01:23:57.640 --> 01:23:58.640]  We're going to pay attention.
[01:23:58.640 --> 01:23:59.640]  We're moving on.
[01:23:59.640 --> 01:24:03.000]  We're going to go to Paul in Texas first, because Randy told him to call in.
[01:24:03.000 --> 01:24:06.600]  Paul, you have a question regarding appraisals and taxes?
[01:24:06.600 --> 01:24:08.720]  Yes, ma'am.
[01:24:08.720 --> 01:24:12.160]  My sister bought a house, I guess, a few years back.
[01:24:12.160 --> 01:24:16.400]  They've been here approximately four years or so.
[01:24:16.400 --> 01:24:21.720]  The house appraisal has not went up, and the taxes are based on the appraisal, allegedly,
[01:24:21.720 --> 01:24:22.720]  that stipulation.
[01:24:22.720 --> 01:24:28.560]  At this point, the house has went down a bit, I believe, in the appraisal, I'm pretty sure.
[01:24:28.560 --> 01:24:35.200]  At this point, I believe that their taxes started out at about $2,000, then it went
[01:24:35.200 --> 01:24:36.200]  up to $2,500.
[01:24:36.200 --> 01:24:42.400]  It went up to $4,000, and now they're trying to make it, I believe, a bit over $5,000.
[01:24:42.400 --> 01:24:43.640]  This is all in four years.
[01:24:43.640 --> 01:24:44.640]  Okay.
[01:24:44.640 --> 01:24:45.640]  Well, wait a minute.
[01:24:45.640 --> 01:24:46.640]  Wait a minute.
[01:24:46.640 --> 01:24:48.440]  I probably have an explanation for that.
[01:24:48.440 --> 01:24:52.040]  You're saying the appraised value of the home did not go up?
[01:24:52.040 --> 01:24:54.560]  Yes, it went down a little bit.
[01:24:54.560 --> 01:24:55.560]  Okay.
[01:24:55.560 --> 01:25:02.440]  So we have to look at the history, but what can happen is that when somebody buys a house
[01:25:02.440 --> 01:25:07.760]  or when somebody buys a property, if it's their home, if they intend to live there,
[01:25:07.760 --> 01:25:12.920]  then what they do is they get a homestead exemption the year that they buy the property.
[01:25:12.920 --> 01:25:21.640]  What that does is that it caps the taxable base of the appraised value that year, and
[01:25:21.640 --> 01:25:30.080]  no matter how much the property value increases in subsequent years, the tax base that it
[01:25:30.080 --> 01:25:34.080]  can be taxed on can only increase by 10% each year.
[01:25:34.080 --> 01:25:37.840]  So effectively, your taxes only go up by 10% each year.
[01:25:37.840 --> 01:25:42.320]  Now, typically, it goes up a little bit more than 10%, even though the base only goes up
[01:25:42.320 --> 01:25:44.720]  10% because they increase the tax rate.
[01:25:44.720 --> 01:25:50.760]  But the theory is that it only goes up 10% each year, and so if what has happened in
[01:25:50.760 --> 01:25:58.320]  the past is that she bought the property and it was for a really good price, and then it
[01:25:58.320 --> 01:26:03.200]  went way up in value the next year, see, the reason that they have these homestead exemptions
[01:26:03.200 --> 01:26:10.160]  is to keep people from being hit really, really hard, like, say, if their property value quadruples
[01:26:10.160 --> 01:26:17.520]  in one year, okay, and they have an income level that they bought taking into consideration
[01:26:17.520 --> 01:26:20.280]  the value of their property.
[01:26:20.280 --> 01:26:24.520]  If they, all of a sudden, their property is worth four times as much, it'll put them out
[01:26:24.520 --> 01:26:28.160]  of their home, and so that's why it's called a homestead exemption, and it can only increase
[01:26:28.160 --> 01:26:30.880]  by 10% every year, so that may be what's going on.
[01:26:30.880 --> 01:26:35.080]  Now, you do look like the property appraisal has went down.
[01:26:35.080 --> 01:26:40.600]  Right, but what I'm saying is that if it went up in the first few years and then started
[01:26:40.600 --> 01:26:45.720]  to come back down, then it could still be climbing back, it could still be climbing
[01:26:45.720 --> 01:26:48.000]  in that 10% range.
[01:26:48.000 --> 01:26:55.440]  Now, the taxes have more than doubled, so that's not really pacing that 10% a year.
[01:26:55.440 --> 01:27:03.160]  Have you looked at the numbers on the appraisals and on the tax sheet to see if the rate, if
[01:27:03.160 --> 01:27:05.640]  the tax rate has increased?
[01:27:05.640 --> 01:27:11.400]  Okay, and the other item as well, I did not look at that, just to answer the question,
[01:27:11.400 --> 01:27:16.440]  but the other item is talk to four or five of the neighbors, one of the neighbors has
[01:27:16.440 --> 01:27:21.200]  a house built exactly like this, and none of the taxes have went up.
[01:27:21.200 --> 01:27:27.680]  Okay, you may want to get in touch with some property tax advocates in the area, but the
[01:27:27.680 --> 01:27:34.600]  first thing, and just do a search, there are a number of property tax advocates in Austin.
[01:27:34.600 --> 01:27:41.560]  I see you have a 512 area code that will do this for people for free, and that's not something
[01:27:41.560 --> 01:27:46.280]  that I could help you with, but I would suggest just doing a search online for property tax
[01:27:46.280 --> 01:27:52.000]  advocates in the Austin area, or fighting property taxes or something like that, and
[01:27:52.000 --> 01:27:58.440]  there are a number of entities that will help people for free now, especially in a situation
[01:27:58.440 --> 01:27:59.440]  like this.
[01:27:59.440 --> 01:28:05.560]  It sounds kind of strange, but what I would suggest is do the math, pull up the old property
[01:28:05.560 --> 01:28:11.160]  tax bills from year to year and see if you can determine whether it's an increase in
[01:28:11.160 --> 01:28:13.840]  the tax rate that is causing this.
[01:28:13.840 --> 01:28:19.320]  You know, they also said something to the effect of you should have called in by such
[01:28:19.320 --> 01:28:24.120]  and such date and we would have kept it the same, so it seems kind of arbitrary.
[01:28:24.120 --> 01:28:26.400]  Well, no, there is a certain date.
[01:28:26.400 --> 01:28:31.400]  If you intend to protest your property taxes or if you intend to protest the appraised
[01:28:31.400 --> 01:28:37.120]  value of your home, either one, you do have to file a formal administrative protest by
[01:28:37.120 --> 01:28:38.120]  a certain date.
[01:28:38.120 --> 01:28:39.120]  It's not arbitrary.
[01:28:39.120 --> 01:28:40.120]  That's in the statute.
[01:28:40.120 --> 01:28:44.720]  And how is it that the other houses are not?
[01:28:44.720 --> 01:28:47.480]  Well, that's what I'm saying.
[01:28:47.480 --> 01:28:52.320]  Without having all your paperwork in front of me, I can't really answer those questions,
[01:28:52.320 --> 01:28:57.920]  so you need to look at the bills from year to year and see what the numbers are and get
[01:28:57.920 --> 01:29:02.280]  out a calculator and do the math yourself and see if it's the tax rate that caused
[01:29:02.280 --> 01:29:08.200]  the problem or just what exactly has happened here, but I would suggest bringing the case
[01:29:08.200 --> 01:29:10.880]  to one of these tax advocates here in Austin.
[01:29:10.880 --> 01:29:16.800]  Now, can you understand how it's more than doubles in a four-year period as well?
[01:29:16.800 --> 01:29:17.800]  That seems kind of strange.
[01:29:17.800 --> 01:29:18.800]  That's not 10% pay.
[01:29:18.800 --> 01:29:21.400]  Well, it depends on what the original amount was.
[01:29:21.400 --> 01:29:28.760]  I mean, double of $1,000 or double of $2,000, yeah, I could see that that could easily happen.
[01:29:28.760 --> 01:29:34.320]  Our property taxes have gone up $1,000 every year of my home and that's with a homestead
[01:29:34.320 --> 01:29:40.640]  exemption and our property value has fluctuated up and down since then because it went up
[01:29:40.640 --> 01:29:46.520]  so dramatically the first few years after we bought the home, so yeah.
[01:29:46.520 --> 01:29:52.120]  I mean, when you say double, that's relative because double of $100 is $200, double of
[01:29:52.120 --> 01:29:56.240]  $5,000 is $10,000, so it depends what number you're multiplying.
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[01:32:11.560 --> 01:32:13.560]  Okay folks, we are back.
[01:32:13.560 --> 01:32:14.560]  Okay Paul, right.
[01:32:14.560 --> 01:32:19.360]  So what I was trying to tell you before we went to break is that doubling, you know,
[01:32:19.360 --> 01:32:21.680]  you're considering a multiplying factor here.
[01:32:21.680 --> 01:32:27.520]  You know, two times 100 is 200, two times 1,000 is 2,000, two times 5,000 is 10,000,
[01:32:27.520 --> 01:32:28.800]  so it's relative.
[01:32:28.800 --> 01:32:36.520]  It's not the multiplying factor that is the issue here, it's how much it has increased.
[01:32:36.520 --> 01:32:42.960]  And like I said, our taxes have increased by 1,000 bucks a year since we've been here
[01:32:42.960 --> 01:32:44.160]  for the last five years.
[01:32:44.160 --> 01:32:46.120]  We've had this place for over 10 years.
[01:32:46.120 --> 01:32:51.960]  So you know, when you're telling me it went from 2,000 to 4,000 in a few years, that doesn't
[01:32:51.960 --> 01:32:53.480]  seem that unreasonable to me.
[01:32:53.480 --> 01:32:54.600]  This is Austin.
[01:32:54.600 --> 01:32:59.560]  But again, without having your documents in front of me, I can't really give you specific
[01:32:59.560 --> 01:33:05.280]  answers to the questions and we can't really do a mathematical analysis of the last four
[01:33:05.280 --> 01:33:10.320]  years of your tax appraisals and tax bills on the air that would take too long.
[01:33:10.320 --> 01:33:15.440]  You need to go and look over those documents yourself and get out a calculator and figure
[01:33:15.440 --> 01:33:20.400]  out exactly the reason, at least what they're saying on paper of why this is happening,
[01:33:20.400 --> 01:33:24.200]  make sure there's no mathematical errors, and then go to one of the tax advocates in
[01:33:24.200 --> 01:33:25.200]  town.
[01:33:25.200 --> 01:33:27.880]  So that's the best advice I can give you right now without having any more information.
[01:33:27.880 --> 01:33:30.400]  I just don't have enough information to answer your questions.
[01:33:30.400 --> 01:33:31.880]  Okay, we're going to move on now.
[01:33:31.880 --> 01:33:33.840]  We're going to go to Ben in Texas.
[01:33:33.840 --> 01:33:35.900]  Ben, thank you for calling.
[01:33:35.900 --> 01:33:37.600]  What is your question or comment tonight?
[01:33:37.600 --> 01:33:43.640]  Okay, I've called in a few times regarding this illegal dumping nightmare that was dumped
[01:33:43.640 --> 01:33:48.720]  upon me by our friends here in Travis County.
[01:33:48.720 --> 01:33:54.320]  And basically, all the injustices and stuff, I'm working as hard as I can to fight back
[01:33:54.320 --> 01:33:55.320]  against all that.
[01:33:55.320 --> 01:34:00.440]  Basically, I had to plead no contest just to get out of jail on this thing, but I filed
[01:34:00.440 --> 01:34:09.360]  a motion for new trial with County Court 6, which was Judge Brandi Mueller.
[01:34:09.360 --> 01:34:15.360]  And let's see, I went to the law library and researched all this out, so I wrote a really
[01:34:15.360 --> 01:34:16.360]  good motion.
[01:34:16.360 --> 01:34:24.520]  And I had an affidavit attached that basically made the motion introduce new evidence and
[01:34:24.520 --> 01:34:25.520]  stuff.
[01:34:25.520 --> 01:34:30.800]  And I listed out all these due process violations that happened and quoted all the code and
[01:34:30.800 --> 01:34:32.640]  all that stuff.
[01:34:32.640 --> 01:34:34.600]  And so, my next step was to present it.
[01:34:34.600 --> 01:34:38.440]  Well, I went this last Friday, actually had to take a day off work, which I've been rebuilding
[01:34:38.440 --> 01:34:39.440]  my life from scratch.
[01:34:39.440 --> 01:34:42.680]  I managed to get a really good job, but we worked a lot of hours.
[01:34:42.680 --> 01:34:46.880]  I had to take a day off just to go and present this to the judge.
[01:34:46.880 --> 01:34:49.920]  And basically, she didn't know what was going on when I got up there.
[01:34:49.920 --> 01:34:55.440]  I tried to copy it on the way in, because you have to copy your files there and pay
[01:34:55.440 --> 01:34:57.960]  like 20 cents a page, too, on top of that.
[01:34:57.960 --> 01:35:03.280]  But yeah, I tried to copy it, but she already had the motion there, so I couldn't copy the
[01:35:03.280 --> 01:35:04.280]  motion.
[01:35:04.280 --> 01:35:05.280]  So I didn't have it.
[01:35:05.280 --> 01:35:08.480]  And she was like, well, you're supposed to present that to me.
[01:35:08.480 --> 01:35:11.160]  I'm like, well, yeah, but you already have it, because that's what I...
[01:35:11.160 --> 01:35:15.320]  I went down to the county clerk, and she said you have it.
[01:35:15.320 --> 01:35:17.440]  And she's like, oh, okay.
[01:35:17.440 --> 01:35:18.440]  And she was completely dumb.
[01:35:18.440 --> 01:35:19.440]  She didn't even know.
[01:35:19.440 --> 01:35:24.880]  She was like, you can't just walk in here and ask me to grant your motion.
[01:35:24.880 --> 01:35:25.880]  And I was like, no.
[01:35:25.880 --> 01:35:26.880]  I filed the motion.
[01:35:26.880 --> 01:35:27.880]  She was like, oh, you filed a motion?
[01:35:27.880 --> 01:35:28.880]  I was like, yeah.
[01:35:28.880 --> 01:35:29.880]  Why don't you think I was here?
[01:35:29.880 --> 01:35:33.240]  And she's still like completely busy the whole time and didn't know what was going on.
[01:35:33.240 --> 01:35:35.240]  And then she just decided she was going to reset the court date.
[01:35:35.240 --> 01:35:37.480]  So now I have to take another day off work.
[01:35:37.480 --> 01:35:38.480]  I'm supposed to go in tomorrow.
[01:35:38.480 --> 01:35:42.160]  But I've tried to call and get them to reset it, and they don't answer their phone at all.
[01:35:42.160 --> 01:35:43.960]  They don't return any of my messages.
[01:35:43.960 --> 01:35:46.960]  I mean, it's craziness.
[01:35:46.960 --> 01:35:55.160]  Well, I'm not so sure you would need to continue the case by telephone.
[01:35:55.160 --> 01:35:59.720]  I mean, anything that happens over the phone is not official.
[01:35:59.720 --> 01:36:04.760]  If you want to continue the case, you need to file a motion for continuance.
[01:36:04.760 --> 01:36:07.240]  If you want to postpone the court case, you don't...
[01:36:07.240 --> 01:36:10.560]  This isn't like making an appointment with somebody.
[01:36:10.560 --> 01:36:12.160]  I mean, it's a court date.
[01:36:12.160 --> 01:36:15.000]  If you want to continue it, you need to file a motion for continuance.
[01:36:15.000 --> 01:36:17.080]  You don't call.
[01:36:17.080 --> 01:36:18.080]  Okay.
[01:36:18.080 --> 01:36:20.080]  Well, it's not actually a court date.
[01:36:20.080 --> 01:36:21.080]  It's presentment.
[01:36:21.080 --> 01:36:22.080]  Basically...
[01:36:22.080 --> 01:36:23.080]  All right.
[01:36:23.080 --> 01:36:24.080]  I looked up the case law on this.
[01:36:24.080 --> 01:36:25.080]  And this is what...
[01:36:25.080 --> 01:36:28.120]  There's only two cases that deal with what the word present means in this instance.
[01:36:28.120 --> 01:36:30.320]  What present means is just bring it to the attention of the judge.
[01:36:30.320 --> 01:36:31.320]  So this basically...
[01:36:31.320 --> 01:36:33.320]  I brought my motion to the attention of the judge.
[01:36:33.320 --> 01:36:37.360]  She went in the back room, read it, came out, and then said, oh, come back in a week.
[01:36:37.360 --> 01:36:41.000]  Well, I already did what I was supposed to by law, so there's no reason for me to come
[01:36:41.000 --> 01:36:42.000]  back at all.
[01:36:42.000 --> 01:36:43.000]  That's the thing.
[01:36:43.000 --> 01:36:46.000]  She's just trying to inconvenience me and make me miss work.
[01:36:46.000 --> 01:36:47.000]  Well, wait a minute.
[01:36:47.000 --> 01:36:48.000]  Wait a minute.
[01:36:48.000 --> 01:36:51.200]  If you file a motion, what you're supposed to do at that point, if the judge doesn't
[01:36:51.200 --> 01:36:57.000]  make a ruling on the motion within a reasonable period of time, you schedule a motion hearing.
[01:36:57.000 --> 01:36:58.000]  Okay.
[01:36:58.000 --> 01:36:59.000]  Yes.
[01:36:59.000 --> 01:37:00.000]  Yeah.
[01:37:00.000 --> 01:37:01.000]  The motion...
[01:37:01.000 --> 01:37:07.720]  I guess you could call it that, but the Texas Criminal Litigation Handbook, the law library,
[01:37:07.720 --> 01:37:08.720]  they called it...
[01:37:08.720 --> 01:37:12.520]  They just said present it to the judge.
[01:37:12.520 --> 01:37:14.960]  And present means just bring your motion to the judge's attention.
[01:37:14.960 --> 01:37:15.960]  That's what I did.
[01:37:15.960 --> 01:37:21.400]  I went in and I set this date, went in, presented the motion to her, and then she was just like,
[01:37:21.400 --> 01:37:23.720]  just acted really dumb and reset the date.
[01:37:23.720 --> 01:37:28.680]  Well, yeah, because generally when you file a motion, you file a motion with the clerk
[01:37:28.680 --> 01:37:34.400]  of the court, and then it's in the record, and you don't go and hand it to the judge
[01:37:34.400 --> 01:37:41.720]  unless you're in a hearing for your case and you want to file motions with the court on
[01:37:41.720 --> 01:37:43.320]  the spot in the middle of a hearing.
[01:37:43.320 --> 01:37:47.240]  I mean, generally what happens is you file the motion with the clerk of the court, and
[01:37:47.240 --> 01:37:53.160]  then you wait and give the judge time to make a ruling on the motion, and if the judge doesn't
[01:37:53.160 --> 01:37:58.960]  make a ruling within a reasonable period of time, you go to the clerk again and schedule
[01:37:58.960 --> 01:38:03.200]  a motion hearing, and that forces the judge to make a ruling on the hearing.
[01:38:03.200 --> 01:38:04.200]  This is all in jurisdictionary.
[01:38:04.200 --> 01:38:06.920]  Randy, you had some comments on this?
[01:38:06.920 --> 01:38:07.920]  Yes.
[01:38:07.920 --> 01:38:17.000]  When you file a motion, nothing happens unless you go to the judge's coordinator.
[01:38:17.000 --> 01:38:18.840]  Sometimes they call it the judge's clerk.
[01:38:18.840 --> 01:38:24.360]  They have different names for it, but the judge has essentially a secretary who keeps
[01:38:24.360 --> 01:38:26.960]  the judge's calendar.
[01:38:26.960 --> 01:38:34.280]  You go to the judge's clerk and ask the clerk, when does the judge next hold motion hearings?
[01:38:34.280 --> 01:38:39.720]  Motion hearings don't take very long, so the court set a day aside and all they do is hear
[01:38:39.720 --> 01:38:40.720]  motions.
[01:38:40.720 --> 01:38:49.080]  You find out when those days are, you get two days from them, and you send the two days
[01:38:49.080 --> 01:38:54.240]  to the opposing party and say, I'm going to set this motion for hearing on one of these
[01:38:54.240 --> 01:38:55.480]  two days.
[01:38:55.480 --> 01:38:58.120]  Which one do you like?
[01:38:58.120 --> 01:39:03.040]  And if the other side says, I don't like either one of them, too bad.
[01:39:03.040 --> 01:39:08.240]  You pick one, I'm setting one or the other, and then you set it for hearing.
[01:39:08.240 --> 01:39:13.040]  You ask the judge's coordinator to set this on the hearing docket for this day.
[01:39:13.040 --> 01:39:20.420]  You do that in writing, and then you send a notice to the other side, if it's a prosecutor
[01:39:20.420 --> 01:39:28.680]  or if it's an opposing counsel, and then you come on that day and you hear the motion.
[01:39:28.680 --> 01:39:33.200]  There's nonsense of presenting a motion to the judge, you don't present motions.
[01:39:33.200 --> 01:39:35.000]  No, I have never heard of that.
[01:39:35.000 --> 01:39:37.360]  That's not the way it works.
[01:39:37.360 --> 01:39:39.360]  You file them with the clerk of the court.
[01:39:39.360 --> 01:39:41.360]  That's what they actually called me and asked me to do this, too.
[01:39:41.360 --> 01:39:46.320]  Not only did I read it, but the county clerk actually called me and said, hey, we received
[01:39:46.320 --> 01:39:52.560]  your motion and everything looks good, but you need to come and have a motion hearing.
[01:39:52.560 --> 01:39:53.560]  That's what they said.
[01:39:53.560 --> 01:39:55.960]  You need to arrange that with the judge, that's what I did.
[01:39:55.960 --> 01:39:58.280]  I arranged the day, that was that Friday.
[01:39:58.280 --> 01:40:03.280]  I went there, talked to her, and she just reset the date, she didn't make a decision.
[01:40:03.280 --> 01:40:07.640]  Then file a judicial conduct complaint against the judge.
[01:40:07.640 --> 01:40:09.720]  File a judicial conduct complaint, okay.
[01:40:09.720 --> 01:40:14.080]  Yeah, for misreasons in office, she had a duty to hear that motion.
[01:40:14.080 --> 01:40:17.240]  She doesn't want to do her job, sting her.
[01:40:17.240 --> 01:40:23.200]  She can screw around attorneys all she wants to, but you're a pro se, she can't screw you
[01:40:23.200 --> 01:40:25.200]  around, you can kick her in the professional's teeth.
[01:40:25.200 --> 01:40:28.400]  She can see the 60 hours a week, I mean, I can't, like...
[01:40:28.400 --> 01:40:32.240]  Well, if you want, you can file a judicial conduct complaint with her, but if you really
[01:40:32.240 --> 01:40:36.760]  want your motion heard, if she rescheduled the motion hearing, go to the next motion
[01:40:36.760 --> 01:40:38.920]  hearing or else your motion's not going to be heard.
[01:40:38.920 --> 01:40:40.960]  That's the remedy in the short run.
[01:40:40.960 --> 01:40:45.280]  I know it's inconvenient, but that's what you're faced with right now.
[01:40:45.280 --> 01:40:49.460]  The only remedy for that is to file a judicial conduct complaint, like Randy said, and hopefully
[01:40:49.460 --> 01:40:51.480]  she won't do it again.
[01:40:51.480 --> 01:40:54.640]  Did you have any... Go ahead, Randy.
[01:40:54.640 --> 01:41:01.040]  And a judicial conduct complaint, never, ever mention it to the judge, and if she ever mentions
[01:41:01.040 --> 01:41:06.080]  it to you, you immediately ask her to stand down from the bench, and she won't mention
[01:41:06.080 --> 01:41:12.960]  it to you, but it's just kind of like giving her a smack on the wrist, telling her, do
[01:41:12.960 --> 01:41:15.400]  your job or I'm going to sting you good.
[01:41:15.400 --> 01:41:21.160]  Now, most people are afraid to file judicial conduct complaints, but it stings the judge,
[01:41:21.160 --> 01:41:25.560]  and she's not going to come after you because she's not going to want you to do that to
[01:41:25.560 --> 01:41:26.560]  her again.
[01:41:26.560 --> 01:41:28.000]  This is what proceeds can do.
[01:41:28.000 --> 01:41:30.160]  You are the sovereign.
[01:41:30.160 --> 01:41:31.680]  She is the servant.
[01:41:31.680 --> 01:41:32.680]  You're not her servant.
[01:41:32.680 --> 01:41:36.880]  Yeah, and Ben, I would highly recommend getting jurisdictionary so that you can become very
[01:41:36.880 --> 01:41:41.000]  familiar with court procedure and what's supposed to happen and when.
[01:41:41.000 --> 01:41:43.200]  Actually, I'm pretty familiar with all that stuff.
[01:41:43.200 --> 01:41:45.440]  I've been studying like crazy since I got out of jail.
[01:41:45.440 --> 01:41:49.720]  They put me in 15 days for a time I didn't even commit, and that whole 15 days I was
[01:41:49.720 --> 01:41:50.720]  there and I didn't even get to dinner.
[01:41:50.720 --> 01:41:51.720]  Wait a minute.
[01:41:51.720 --> 01:41:52.720]  Wait a minute.
[01:41:52.720 --> 01:41:59.960]  If you're just going in studying law, you don't have a clue because there's so much
[01:41:59.960 --> 01:42:03.360]  to study.
[01:42:03.360 --> 01:42:04.360]  Absolutely get jurisdictionary.
[01:42:04.360 --> 01:42:05.360]  He said he has it.
[01:42:05.360 --> 01:42:06.360]  He said he already has it.
[01:42:06.360 --> 01:42:07.360]  No, he said he's been studying.
[01:42:07.360 --> 01:42:08.360]  Do you have jurisdictionary?
[01:42:08.360 --> 01:42:09.360]  I've been studying.
[01:42:09.360 --> 01:42:12.360]  Well, I don't actually have it, but I've been going through...
[01:42:12.360 --> 01:42:19.600]  Oh, I thought you said you had jurisdictionary.
[01:42:19.600 --> 01:42:20.600]  You need jurisdictionary.
[01:42:20.600 --> 01:42:24.240]  It's a course that teaches you how to deal with the court.
[01:42:24.240 --> 01:42:26.320]  I've been going to Mary.
[01:42:26.320 --> 01:42:27.320]  Mary plays it on...
[01:42:27.320 --> 01:42:28.320]  No, no, no, no.
[01:42:28.320 --> 01:42:30.200]  Stop, stop, stop.
[01:42:30.200 --> 01:42:34.640]  Jurisdictionary will say, okay, these are the basics.
[01:42:34.640 --> 01:42:37.720]  Step one, step two, step three, step four, step five.
[01:42:37.720 --> 01:42:42.760]  Once you've walked through the basics, then go talk to Mary.
[01:42:42.760 --> 01:42:48.000]  Now you know how the basic system works and Mary can help you.
[01:42:48.000 --> 01:42:55.200]  You need to have the course for yourself, Ben, because what Mary does is she runs a
[01:42:55.200 --> 01:43:01.520]  discussion group for people that have the course, that have already taken it, that have
[01:43:01.520 --> 01:43:03.840]  already studied it.
[01:43:03.840 --> 01:43:08.600]  I know that she's not just giving it away because that would be very egregious to Frederick
[01:43:08.600 --> 01:43:10.200]  Graves.
[01:43:10.200 --> 01:43:13.840]  You need to get it yourself if you really want to understand what's going on in Mary's
[01:43:13.840 --> 01:43:14.840]  discussion.
[01:43:14.840 --> 01:43:22.280]  And the reason is, if you study it yourself, if you just study law yourself, there will
[01:43:22.280 --> 01:43:27.840]  be these large holes in your knowledge, big gaps.
[01:43:27.840 --> 01:43:36.040]  What Jurisdictionary will do will give you all of the basics in one coherent piece.
[01:43:36.040 --> 01:43:40.040]  Now you do your own study and you know how to put everything together.
[01:43:40.040 --> 01:43:41.040]  Okay, Ben.
[01:43:41.040 --> 01:43:42.040]  Listen.
[01:43:42.040 --> 01:43:43.040]  Yeah.
[01:43:43.040 --> 01:43:44.040]  Let's not bend that too much.
[01:43:44.040 --> 01:43:45.040]  Okay.
[01:43:45.040 --> 01:43:46.040]  All right.
[01:43:46.040 --> 01:43:47.040]  We need to move on.
[01:43:47.040 --> 01:43:49.040]  We've got one segment left and a few other callers.
[01:43:49.040 --> 01:43:50.040]  Okay.
[01:43:50.040 --> 01:43:51.040]  Okay.
[01:43:51.040 --> 01:43:52.040]  Thank you, Ben.
[01:43:52.040 --> 01:43:53.800]  Call back tomorrow night if you have more.
[01:43:53.800 --> 01:43:54.800]  All right.
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[01:46:04.400 --> 01:46:22.000]  All right.
[01:46:22.000 --> 01:46:39.120]  Somebody's going to police the police, man.
[01:46:39.120 --> 01:46:40.800]  Somebody is going to bully the bully.
[01:46:40.800 --> 01:46:44.920]  That would be us, and hopefully that's also you, listeners.
[01:46:44.920 --> 01:46:47.240]  Together, we will make a change here.
[01:46:47.240 --> 01:46:48.240]  We already are.
[01:46:48.240 --> 01:46:49.240]  All right.
[01:46:49.240 --> 01:46:50.240]  We've got our final segment here.
[01:46:50.240 --> 01:46:52.240]  We've got two callers on the board, Dan and Frank.
[01:46:52.240 --> 01:46:57.560]  Callers, if you want to sneak in at the last minute, 512-646-1984.
[01:46:57.560 --> 01:46:59.120]  We've got Dan up next.
[01:46:59.120 --> 01:47:00.480]  Dan, thank you for calling in.
[01:47:00.480 --> 01:47:02.200]  What is your question or comment tonight?
[01:47:02.200 --> 01:47:03.200]  Oh, just three-
[01:47:03.200 --> 01:47:04.200]  Wait a minute.
[01:47:04.200 --> 01:47:05.200]  Wait a minute, Dan.
[01:47:05.200 --> 01:47:06.200]  What?
[01:47:06.200 --> 01:47:10.280]  What's this I hear about you and Michael Bannerick?
[01:47:10.280 --> 01:47:13.000]  Oh, he's coming to Connecticut.
[01:47:13.000 --> 01:47:14.920]  That was just the first piece of good news.
[01:47:14.920 --> 01:47:20.520]  You want in Connecticut, go to lpct.org forward slash events.html.
[01:47:20.520 --> 01:47:25.440]  If you pre-register, it's $10 less.
[01:47:25.440 --> 01:47:30.760]  That was just the one piece of good news, which is you'll like the next good news better.
[01:47:30.760 --> 01:47:31.760]  You'll really love this.
[01:47:31.760 --> 01:47:32.760]  All right.
[01:47:32.760 --> 01:47:33.760]  Go ahead.
[01:47:33.760 --> 01:47:38.800]  The Chief Justice of the Connecticut Supreme Court gave her state of the judiciary speech
[01:47:38.800 --> 01:47:44.880]  on 413 Thomas Jefferson's birthday, and do you know how many cases involved at least
[01:47:44.880 --> 01:47:49.560]  one pro-state party in the Civil Docket in 2010?
[01:47:49.560 --> 01:47:52.120]  How many?
[01:47:52.120 --> 01:47:53.600]  28%.
[01:47:53.600 --> 01:47:56.120]  Ooh, 28?
[01:47:56.120 --> 01:48:01.640]  28% had at least one unrepresented party.
[01:48:01.640 --> 01:48:04.800]  That should tell these attorneys something.
[01:48:04.800 --> 01:48:06.800]  Exactly.
[01:48:06.800 --> 01:48:10.440]  And I got the last piece of really good news, and I know you're going to love this because
[01:48:10.440 --> 01:48:12.440]  you're doing the foreclosure stuff.
[01:48:12.440 --> 01:48:19.600]  That's what the IRS discovered, remixed, specifically, they were being abused.
[01:48:19.600 --> 01:48:21.840]  Oh, no.
[01:48:21.840 --> 01:48:24.240]  Yeah, wait.
[01:48:24.240 --> 01:48:30.680]  It's going to be a $2 trillion steel cage match between them and the banksters.
[01:48:30.680 --> 01:48:34.360]  They're investigating it finally.
[01:48:34.360 --> 01:48:42.400]  This is just the IRS trying to get all the money before we get it from them.
[01:48:42.400 --> 01:48:43.400]  Okay.
[01:48:43.400 --> 01:48:44.400]  Those chumps.
[01:48:44.400 --> 01:48:53.000]  Now, they let them do this this whole time without complaint, and now when the sky's
[01:48:53.000 --> 01:48:57.040]  falling again, they want to come back and get all the money they didn't get in the first
[01:48:57.040 --> 01:48:59.680]  place.
[01:48:59.680 --> 01:49:04.040]  But that'll help us because now these guys can look at going to prison for income tax
[01:49:04.040 --> 01:49:05.040]  evasion.
[01:49:05.040 --> 01:49:06.040]  Yeah.
[01:49:06.040 --> 01:49:12.640]  Normally, I don't use the words good news and IRS nearly within the same paragraph or
[01:49:12.640 --> 01:49:18.760]  hour or file, but this is one of the cases where I'm like, you know what, go get them.
[01:49:18.760 --> 01:49:23.160]  I think we're talking about a down ship or airplane full, right?
[01:49:23.160 --> 01:49:27.080]  Let me explain RIMIC for those who don't know.
[01:49:27.080 --> 01:49:33.320]  When your broker gets you to sign the note, he sells it to what's called a special purpose
[01:49:33.320 --> 01:49:34.320]  vehicle.
[01:49:34.320 --> 01:49:38.400]  These guys get together to get a bunch of investments and they put together a special
[01:49:38.400 --> 01:49:39.400]  purpose vehicle.
[01:49:39.400 --> 01:49:45.240]  It's a special purpose vehicle for the purpose of securing a group of notes that when they
[01:49:45.240 --> 01:49:53.680]  reach their investment limit, then they will codify all of that into a real estate mortgage
[01:49:53.680 --> 01:50:01.160]  investment conduit, file that with the IRS and get this incredible tax break.
[01:50:01.160 --> 01:50:03.280]  That's what the RIMIC is.
[01:50:03.280 --> 01:50:10.680]  If a loan in the RIMIC defaults, they have to pull that loan out and replace it with
[01:50:10.680 --> 01:50:19.680]  one of a similar value to keep from changing the collateral base of the RIMIC.
[01:50:19.680 --> 01:50:28.200]  They can only change 5% otherwise the RIMIC collapses, they lose all their tax breaks.
[01:50:28.200 --> 01:50:31.440]  That's basically what a RIMIC is.
[01:50:31.440 --> 01:50:33.760]  It was designed to be corrupt.
[01:50:33.760 --> 01:50:35.960]  Go ahead, Dave.
[01:50:35.960 --> 01:50:45.080]  And correct me if I'm wrong, don't they have 120 days to fix something?
[01:50:45.080 --> 01:50:49.280]  I'm not sure how all of that works.
[01:50:49.280 --> 01:50:50.840]  The RIMICs are really complex.
[01:50:50.840 --> 01:50:58.520]  I've looked at it, I think it's 386 of the IRS code addresses RIMICs, but it's incredibly
[01:50:58.520 --> 01:51:00.560]  complex.
[01:51:00.560 --> 01:51:04.480]  So complex that no normal human being could ever understand it.
[01:51:04.480 --> 01:51:12.320]  And that means fertile field for fraud.
[01:51:12.320 --> 01:51:13.680]  And these guys all want it there.
[01:51:13.680 --> 01:51:17.640]  That way, anytime they want to, they can go after anybody they want to.
[01:51:17.640 --> 01:51:19.520]  Now they want to go after the lenders.
[01:51:19.520 --> 01:51:25.120]  So that's for us, for anybody in foreclosure, that's a good thing.
[01:51:25.120 --> 01:51:30.920]  The IRS is your friend when the IRS is attacking your enemy.
[01:51:30.920 --> 01:51:38.240]  Okay, damn, we've got one more caller, anything else for us?
[01:51:38.240 --> 01:51:43.320]  I just wanted to give you the good news and let you know about all the exciting developments.
[01:51:43.320 --> 01:51:49.960]  I was excited about that 28%, though that really made me go, wow, we're working now.
[01:51:49.960 --> 01:51:54.360]  That is a great statistic.
[01:51:54.360 --> 01:51:58.480]  That should make all of these attorneys very uncomfortable.
[01:51:58.480 --> 01:52:04.920]  That means that people no longer trust them enough to hire them, they'd rather do it themselves.
[01:52:04.920 --> 01:52:10.040]  And if they think they would do better by themselves, they're right.
[01:52:10.040 --> 01:52:13.600]  Because then you only have the court try to screw you instead of your own attorney.
[01:52:13.600 --> 01:52:14.600]  Okay.
[01:52:14.600 --> 01:52:15.600]  All right, good deal, Dan.
[01:52:15.600 --> 01:52:16.600]  Thank you, Dan.
[01:52:16.600 --> 01:52:17.600]  All right, take it easy, guys.
[01:52:17.600 --> 01:52:18.600]  I figured you'd like that.
[01:52:18.600 --> 01:52:19.600]  All right, thanks.
[01:52:19.600 --> 01:52:20.600]  Good night.
[01:52:20.600 --> 01:52:24.520]  Okay, we're going to go now to Frank in New York.
[01:52:24.520 --> 01:52:25.880]  Frank, thank you for calling in.
[01:52:25.880 --> 01:52:27.880]  What is your question or comment tonight?
[01:52:27.880 --> 01:52:33.400]  Okay, I'll make this short.
[01:52:33.400 --> 01:52:38.920]  I'm the guy with the false charges and they are going to be dropped, supposedly, I don't
[01:52:38.920 --> 01:52:39.920]  know anything about that.
[01:52:39.920 --> 01:52:44.320]  Why do they need me in the courtroom?
[01:52:44.320 --> 01:52:45.320]  That's basically the short of it.
[01:52:45.320 --> 01:52:49.280]  Why do they need me to go down there if I have never been up here there?
[01:52:49.280 --> 01:52:56.680]  The district attorney talked to me on the phone, said, oh, yeah, just come in, we'll
[01:52:56.680 --> 01:53:02.280]  give you an ROR or an owner cognizance or whatever, and you'll come back again.
[01:53:02.280 --> 01:53:04.680]  And I'm like, wait a minute.
[01:53:04.680 --> 01:53:05.680]  Why do you even need me?
[01:53:05.680 --> 01:53:07.760]  I never even showed up for court in the first place.
[01:53:07.760 --> 01:53:09.240]  The kid don't want to press charges.
[01:53:09.240 --> 01:53:12.240]  Why are you trying to lure me into court?
[01:53:12.240 --> 01:53:16.080]  Okay, anybody can answer that.
[01:53:16.080 --> 01:53:17.080]  That's a good question.
[01:53:17.080 --> 01:53:22.200]  The problem is, is we don't have enough information.
[01:53:22.200 --> 01:53:27.520]  You're assuming we remember all the details and I have no idea what you're talking about.
[01:53:27.520 --> 01:53:29.960]  Can you give us a real quick brief update?
[01:53:29.960 --> 01:53:30.960]  Quick.
[01:53:30.960 --> 01:53:31.960]  Okay.
[01:53:31.960 --> 01:53:34.960]  Son pressed false charges.
[01:53:34.960 --> 01:53:36.520]  Oh, okay.
[01:53:36.520 --> 01:53:43.920]  You're the boyfriend of the mother and the son filed criminal charges against you because
[01:53:43.920 --> 01:53:47.560]  he was PO'd at you for dating the mother.
[01:53:47.560 --> 01:53:48.560]  Right.
[01:53:48.560 --> 01:53:51.400]  Oh, okay.
[01:53:51.400 --> 01:53:54.760]  And so have you, do you have a warrant?
[01:53:54.760 --> 01:53:57.120]  Yeah, I got a warrant.
[01:53:57.120 --> 01:54:04.080]  The kid was persuaded by his brother who didn't want to get involved in the case to drop the
[01:54:04.080 --> 01:54:05.760]  charges.
[01:54:05.760 --> 01:54:10.520]  So supposedly, I don't know anything in the first hand, but he supposedly called the district
[01:54:10.520 --> 01:54:14.160]  attorney, told him he wanted out.
[01:54:14.160 --> 01:54:16.000]  The district attorney, I talked to him.
[01:54:16.000 --> 01:54:23.240]  I tricked him into talking to me by using Cindy's cell phone or the mother's cell phone.
[01:54:23.240 --> 01:54:27.120]  He called, I answered, and I told him, I didn't want to discuss the case, but I wanted to
[01:54:27.120 --> 01:54:31.960]  know why did they need me if the kid's dropping the charges and I've never been to court.
[01:54:31.960 --> 01:54:36.600]  I've never been there for hearing or anything.
[01:54:36.600 --> 01:54:38.160]  So why do you need me to drop a warrant?
[01:54:38.160 --> 01:54:39.160]  What if I died?
[01:54:39.160 --> 01:54:42.600]  Why would you do that?
[01:54:42.600 --> 01:54:43.600]  It's a no-brainer.
[01:54:43.600 --> 01:54:49.400]  I mean, I've never been in front of the judge, the charges are false.
[01:54:49.400 --> 01:54:50.400]  They have no case.
[01:54:50.400 --> 01:54:51.400]  They have no claim.
[01:54:51.400 --> 01:54:52.400]  They have no witness.
[01:54:52.400 --> 01:54:54.040]  Why do they need me at all?
[01:54:54.040 --> 01:54:58.000]  I think it's suspicious because I'm not going to go through the...
[01:54:58.000 --> 01:55:00.000]  I would think the same thing.
[01:55:00.000 --> 01:55:05.120]  It sounds to me like they didn't really drop the warrant and they're trying to lure you
[01:55:05.120 --> 01:55:07.200]  in there so they can get you in their jail.
[01:55:07.200 --> 01:55:08.200]  That's what it sounds like to me.
[01:55:08.200 --> 01:55:09.200]  That's what I think.
[01:55:09.200 --> 01:55:13.440]  Or they're trying to lure you in there with some bogus threat so that they can try to
[01:55:13.440 --> 01:55:15.600]  get you to cop to a plea.
[01:55:15.600 --> 01:55:16.600]  What are the others?
[01:55:16.600 --> 01:55:17.600]  Who is it?
[01:55:17.600 --> 01:55:19.080]  Do you know who the magistrate is?
[01:55:19.080 --> 01:55:21.920]  No, but I don't trust anybody over there.
[01:55:21.920 --> 01:55:22.920]  They screw me once.
[01:55:22.920 --> 01:55:24.560]  Here's the deal.
[01:55:24.560 --> 01:55:32.800]  Anytime a magistrate issues the warrant, the warrant always says the same thing, arrest
[01:55:32.800 --> 01:55:37.720]  this person and bring him before me.
[01:55:37.720 --> 01:55:45.720]  So my suggestion is if you can figure out who the magistrate is, go before the magistrate
[01:55:45.720 --> 01:55:48.720]  yourself.
[01:55:48.720 --> 01:55:52.320]  Then the warrant becomes moot.
[01:55:52.320 --> 01:55:57.800]  You're already before the magistrate so there is no need to arrest you and bring you before
[01:55:57.800 --> 01:56:00.440]  the magistrate.
[01:56:00.440 --> 01:56:03.440]  If they arrest you, then that's absolutely false imprisonment.
[01:56:03.440 --> 01:56:04.440]  Okay.
[01:56:04.440 --> 01:56:10.920]  But how do I... So what I'm going to do is wait until my paycheck comes and then make
[01:56:10.920 --> 01:56:11.920]  sure I have bail.
[01:56:11.920 --> 01:56:12.920]  Yes.
[01:56:12.920 --> 01:56:19.040]  Even though they say these things, I've got to talk to a bondsman, get a bondsman who
[01:56:19.040 --> 01:56:23.800]  will agree if you don't want to pay the whole thing to bail you out.
[01:56:23.800 --> 01:56:29.600]  You may not need it, but have your bondsman in the wings and then go down there and set
[01:56:29.600 --> 01:56:30.600]  him up.
[01:56:30.600 --> 01:56:31.600]  Right.
[01:56:31.600 --> 01:56:39.040]  So go before the magistrate that issued the warrant and... See, I don't trust these guys
[01:56:39.040 --> 01:56:40.040]  are real jerks.
[01:56:40.040 --> 01:56:44.840]  Well, call the prosecutor and say, hey, I want to come down there and turn myself in.
[01:56:44.840 --> 01:56:48.280]  Who is the magistrate that issued the warrant?
[01:56:48.280 --> 01:56:49.280]  I don't even know.
[01:56:49.280 --> 01:56:50.280]  I don't even know.
[01:56:50.280 --> 01:56:51.280]  No, no, no.
[01:56:51.280 --> 01:56:54.800]  I'm saying call the prosecutor and ask him.
[01:56:54.800 --> 01:56:55.800]  Right.
[01:56:55.800 --> 01:57:05.080]  If he is bleeding out or reluctant to give you the name, oh, so you're a lying scoundrel,
[01:57:05.080 --> 01:57:06.080]  are you?
[01:57:06.080 --> 01:57:07.080]  Right.
[01:57:07.080 --> 01:57:09.400]  Because I don't have to deal with this.
[01:57:09.400 --> 01:57:12.200]  I mean, I could just go... I'm an artisan.
[01:57:12.200 --> 01:57:13.240]  I just travel around.
[01:57:13.240 --> 01:57:16.640]  I could go to Pennsylvania and wait this thing out for two years.
[01:57:16.640 --> 01:57:19.440]  I could go anywhere and work.
[01:57:19.440 --> 01:57:22.200]  I don't have a residence here up in New York.
[01:57:22.200 --> 01:57:23.200]  That's you.
[01:57:23.200 --> 01:57:26.240]  Well, the warrant won't go away just because you do.
[01:57:26.240 --> 01:57:27.240]  Yeah.
[01:57:27.240 --> 01:57:28.800]  Well, what if I died or something?
[01:57:28.800 --> 01:57:30.800]  What would they do then?
[01:57:30.800 --> 01:57:33.600]  Well, they'd serve it on your tombstone.
[01:57:33.600 --> 01:57:35.200]  There you go.
[01:57:35.200 --> 01:57:36.200]  Yeah.
[01:57:36.200 --> 01:57:37.200]  Once... Okay.
[01:57:37.200 --> 01:57:45.360]  Once the complaint is filed, once a complaint is presented to some magistrate, the statute
[01:57:45.360 --> 01:57:48.400]  of limitations stop... Stop.
[01:57:48.400 --> 01:57:52.720]  The statute of limitations clock stops.
[01:57:52.720 --> 01:57:53.720]  Okay.
[01:57:53.720 --> 01:58:00.960]  Yeah, once the complaint is presented to your magistrate, it stops until you are arrested
[01:58:00.960 --> 01:58:05.520]  and then the speedy trial clock stops, so you can't wait that out.
[01:58:05.520 --> 01:58:06.520]  Okay.
[01:58:06.520 --> 01:58:07.520]  All right.
[01:58:07.520 --> 01:58:09.320]  Listen, we're at the end of the show, Frank.
[01:58:09.320 --> 01:58:10.320]  All right.
[01:58:10.320 --> 01:58:12.520]  And Taco Man, we see you on the board.
[01:58:12.520 --> 01:58:14.600]  He's a local here in Austin.
[01:58:14.600 --> 01:58:18.240]  He's got a right to travel issue concerning an electric skateboard.
[01:58:18.240 --> 01:58:19.240]  Sorry, Taco Man.
[01:58:19.240 --> 01:58:20.960]  We're out of time.
[01:58:20.960 --> 01:58:25.840]  Can you call back tomorrow about your right to travel on your electric skateboard?
[01:58:25.840 --> 01:58:26.840]  We definitely want to hear...
[01:58:26.840 --> 01:58:27.840]  I want to hear this.
[01:58:27.840 --> 01:58:28.840]  Yeah.
[01:58:28.840 --> 01:58:31.160]  We want to hear about the electric skateboard.
[01:58:31.160 --> 01:58:34.880]  You definitely have a right to travel with your electric skateboard, Taco Man.
[01:58:34.880 --> 01:58:36.960]  So we will discuss this tomorrow.
[01:58:36.960 --> 01:58:39.120]  Call back tomorrow night, Taco Man.
[01:58:39.120 --> 01:58:42.680]  Taco Man with the electric skateboard is going to call back tomorrow night.
[01:58:42.680 --> 01:58:43.680]  Right to travel issue.
[01:58:43.680 --> 01:58:44.680]  All right, folks.
[01:58:44.680 --> 01:58:47.560]  This has been the rule of law, rule of law radio.
[01:58:47.560 --> 01:58:48.840]  It's Thursday, April 28th.
[01:58:48.840 --> 01:58:53.120]  We'll be back tomorrow night for a Friday four hour info marathon.
[01:58:53.120 --> 01:59:22.760]  Now have a very blessed evening.