[00:00.000 --> 00:09.400]  The Roman Catholic Church held a closed-door meeting at the Vatican Friday to discuss sexual
[00:09.400 --> 00:13.640]  abuse of children by priests while victims protested outside.
[00:13.640 --> 00:18.760]  Barbara Blaine, a leader of the group Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests, said,
[00:18.760 --> 00:22.960]  quote, We want the bishops to turn over to police and prosecutors the personnel files
[00:22.960 --> 00:27.760]  of proven admitted child molesting clerics.
[00:27.760 --> 00:31.520]  Of polar bears face an increased risk of starvation due
[00:31.520 --> 00:36.040]  to delayed ice formation along the western coast of Hudson Bay in Canada.
[00:36.040 --> 00:39.320]  Conservationists say higher than normal temperatures have prevented ice
[00:39.320 --> 00:43.240]  from forming putting it three to four weeks behind schedule.
[00:43.240 --> 00:48.000]  The formation of sea ice is critical for polar bears which use it as a platform
[00:48.000 --> 00:51.880]  for catching seals and other marine animals.
[00:51.880 --> 00:56.960]  Allied forces killed up to 40 insurgents in eastern Afghanistan this week.
[00:56.960 --> 01:02.240]  Afghan troops and the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force, ISAF,
[01:02.240 --> 01:07.600]  wrapped up the four-day operation in the Pesh River Valley of Kunar Province Thursday.
[01:07.600 --> 01:11.680]  Five ISAF troops were killed Sunday fighting Taliban insurgents.
[01:11.680 --> 01:18.720]  In an exclusive report, investigative journalist Gareth Porter says evidence purporting
[01:18.720 --> 01:23.680]  to show Iran's secret involvement in nuclear weapons research was fabricated.
[01:23.680 --> 01:29.720]  Since 2007, the International Atomic Energy Agency has been demanding Iran explain a set
[01:29.720 --> 01:34.480]  of documents portraying a covert Iranian military nuclear program.
[01:34.480 --> 01:39.920]  The laptop documents supposedly obtained from a stolen Iranian computer and given
[01:39.920 --> 01:45.920]  to US intelligence in 2004 included drawings of a missile reentry vehicle that appeared
[01:45.920 --> 01:48.960]  to be an effort to accommodate a nuclear weapon.
[01:48.960 --> 01:52.080]  Porter says the drawings actually depict a missile design
[01:52.080 --> 01:56.360]  that Iran is now known to have abandoned in favor of an improved model
[01:56.360 --> 01:58.640]  at the time the drawings were allegedly made.
[01:58.640 --> 02:05.200]  A study released Friday by the group Food and Water Watch found in the past decade,
[02:05.200 --> 02:09.760]  food and agriculture biotechnology firms spent over half a billion dollars
[02:09.760 --> 02:12.800]  in campaign contributions and in lobbying congress
[02:12.800 --> 02:15.920]  to support genetically engineered food animals.
[02:15.920 --> 02:18.880]  The study exposed relationships and financial connections
[02:18.880 --> 02:23.520]  between former top legislators who lobby congress and federal agencies.
[02:23.520 --> 02:28.800]  Biotech firms and trade associations hired at least 13 former members of congress
[02:28.800 --> 02:32.280]  and over 300 former congressional and White House staffers.
[02:32.280 --> 02:36.360]  When known a harder, executive director of WFF said quote,
[02:36.360 --> 02:40.920]  our coalition has collected 350,000 petitions from consumers
[02:40.920 --> 02:43.280]  who oppose genetically engineered salmon.
[02:43.280 --> 02:46.800]  Yet each of these consumers would have to pay $1,500
[02:46.800 --> 02:49.960]  to match the biotech industry's lobbying influence.
[02:49.960 --> 02:54.800]  The Food and Drug Administration could approve GM salmon for human consumption
[02:54.800 --> 02:56.560]  as early as November 23rd.
[02:56.560 --> 03:02.560]  For more details on these stories, visit INNWorldRecord.net.
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[14:22.320 --> 14:29.320]  Okay, folks.
[14:29.320 --> 14:35.320]  So, that was pretty amazing.
[14:35.320 --> 14:44.320]  This guy, Mike Turner, he didn't want to give his supervisor's office phone number.
[14:44.320 --> 14:51.320]  I don't know if I would have gone so far as to ask for the cell number because that could potentially be incriminating.
[14:51.320 --> 14:55.320]  But, Mike, Mike Handel, good job.
[14:55.320 --> 14:56.320]  Thank you guys so much.
[14:56.320 --> 14:58.320]  I am impressed.
[14:58.320 --> 15:02.320]  I don't deserve that, but thank you, thank you very much.
[15:02.320 --> 15:07.320]  So, you took that little talk we had on the sidewalk that day out in front of the Cafe de Heart, didn't you?
[15:07.320 --> 15:08.320]  Oh, yeah.
[15:08.320 --> 15:15.320]  Actually, when he had commented something like, do you have some mental disability, blah, blah, blah, and I said, what do you have a mental disability?
[15:15.320 --> 15:16.320]  I'm answering a simple question.
[15:16.320 --> 15:20.320]  I was actually doing a little bit of an Eddie Craig impersonation.
[15:20.320 --> 15:29.320]  So, I was just, you know, like not going to take that kind of nonsense where he was going to just continue to insult me and try to divert the conversation.
[15:29.320 --> 15:33.320]  And that's exactly what he was doing, and you did an excellent job of countering that.
[15:33.320 --> 15:35.320]  And my hat's off to you in that regard, Michael.
[15:35.320 --> 15:38.320]  You really stuck to your guns and hung in there.
[15:38.320 --> 15:40.320]  You did take that conversation to heart.
[15:40.320 --> 15:46.320]  Do not let these public folks walk on you.
[15:46.320 --> 15:54.320]  Well, I felt a little bit bad about cutting and run at that point and, you know, just having to go to a supervisor, but I just felt that...
[15:54.320 --> 15:55.320]  Well, that's not cutting and running.
[15:55.320 --> 15:58.320]  You got ample ammunition against this guy.
[15:58.320 --> 15:59.320]  You did the smart thing.
[15:59.320 --> 16:03.320]  You went over his head and left footprints on his scalp on the way.
[16:03.320 --> 16:07.320]  Yeah, there's really nothing else that you could have done at that point.
[16:07.320 --> 16:10.320]  I felt like at some point he kind of...
[16:10.320 --> 16:17.320]  I had to re-listen to it very carefully, but it sounded like because I was continuing to ask, you wanted to reopen an investigation.
[16:17.320 --> 16:19.320]  And I was like, come on.
[16:19.320 --> 16:26.320]  But just, you know, for the record, when I go up to Jeff Hampton, his title is actually Violent Crime.
[16:26.320 --> 16:34.320]  So that kind of bothers me almost as bad as crisis intervention team when they want to commit someone for political thought.
[16:34.320 --> 16:41.320]  I don't know how violent crime involves just filing motions and affidavits in court.
[16:41.320 --> 16:42.320]  So last ditch effort.
[16:42.320 --> 16:44.320]  They're going to try to label you as crazy.
[16:44.320 --> 16:46.320]  Okay, Mike, hang on the line.
[16:46.320 --> 16:47.320]  We're going to break.
[16:47.320 --> 16:49.320]  We'll get more comments from you on the other side.
[16:49.320 --> 16:54.320]  Folks, if you'd like to call in 512-646-1984, we will be right back.
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[19:01.320 --> 19:13.320]  Well, don't let nothing get to you. Only the father can't do it by you. And don't let bad-minded people hurt you. And tell states to get behind you.
[19:13.320 --> 19:17.320]  You know what I mean, my friend?
[19:17.320 --> 19:46.320]  Alright, we are back.
[19:46.320 --> 19:51.320]  Mike, big kudos. That was just amazing.
[19:51.320 --> 19:57.320]  And I was just mentioning that, you know, this is how the cops treat people.
[19:57.320 --> 20:01.320]  I mean, Mike, what you did was an interrogation.
[20:01.320 --> 20:07.320]  This is exactly how the police and the investigators treat people, treat suspects.
[20:07.320 --> 20:13.320]  I mean, this was nothing short of, you know, a very intense interrogation.
[20:13.320 --> 20:22.320]  And I am sure that this guy, Mike Turner, this is what he does to people, and now the shoe's on the other foot.
[20:22.320 --> 20:33.320]  And he's supposed to be trying to get control over individuals that possibly are mentally ill, and now he's being treated like he's the one that's mentally ill. Good job.
[20:33.320 --> 20:35.320]  Oh, thank you. Thank you very much.
[20:35.320 --> 20:39.320]  I firmly believe I've created a monster.
[20:39.320 --> 20:43.320]  It's called Unleash the Kraken.
[20:43.320 --> 20:47.320]  Really, I mean, that was just amazing.
[20:47.320 --> 20:50.320]  I don't quite know what to say.
[20:50.320 --> 21:00.320]  And, you know, another thing I was going to add concerning the wiretapping laws here in Texas, we sure are blessed that we live in a state where the wiretapping laws are the way they are.
[21:00.320 --> 21:14.320]  If you have a telephone conversation with somebody, the person whom you're speaking with has no reasonable expectation of privacy when it comes to being recorded by the person they're talking to, okay?
[21:14.320 --> 21:23.320]  Whoever's party, whoever is party to the conversation can record the conversation without asking the other person's permission or even telling them.
[21:23.320 --> 21:32.320]  Now, you can't go and record a telephone conversation or tap into a telephone conversation that you're not party to.
[21:32.320 --> 21:33.320]  That is wiretapping.
[21:33.320 --> 21:41.320]  But if you are part of the conversation, then the person whom you're speaking with has no reasonable expectation of privacy.
[21:41.320 --> 21:45.320]  And so you are well within your right, well within the law to record this.
[21:45.320 --> 21:54.320]  And, you know, before we started playing these clips, a year or so ago I started considering, well, what about the broadcast aspect of it?
[21:54.320 --> 21:59.320]  And so I looked into that some more and, you know, the answer was pretty apparent right away.
[21:59.320 --> 22:09.320]  Since this is just standard straight-up intellectual property law and copyright law, you recorded it, you own the copyright over the sound recording.
[22:09.320 --> 22:11.320]  That's the SR copyright.
[22:11.320 --> 22:15.320]  You own that copyright regardless of whether you file with the copyright office or not.
[22:15.320 --> 22:19.320]  So you have all the copyrights.
[22:19.320 --> 22:25.320]  You'll have full ownership of the copyright and you have full ownership over the intellectual property rights of that recording.
[22:25.320 --> 22:27.320]  You can do with it whatever you want.
[22:27.320 --> 22:28.320]  If you want to broadcast it, you can.
[22:28.320 --> 22:30.320]  And so there's nothing anybody can do about it.
[22:30.320 --> 22:34.320]  And Eddie was suggesting you need to put this on YouTube.
[22:34.320 --> 22:42.320]  Okay. Yep. I was planning on doing that along with the video if I can ever find a video codec to put it up there.
[22:42.320 --> 22:50.320]  My basic consideration when I started this, I'm speaking to a public official about, you know, a public event.
[22:50.320 --> 22:55.320]  And I don't think they have any expectation of privacy because they're recording me also.
[22:55.320 --> 23:02.320]  I would be very surprised if every telephone conversation going in and out of the police department is not recorded.
[23:02.320 --> 23:05.320]  I don't have proof of that.
[23:05.320 --> 23:09.320]  I bet that guy wishes this one wasn't.
[23:09.320 --> 23:15.320]  Yeah, because he is going to get raked over the coals for not being able to maintain control if you bet on it.
[23:15.320 --> 23:16.320]  Really?
[23:16.320 --> 23:20.320]  You may very well have cost him his position and where he works.
[23:20.320 --> 23:27.320]  Because anybody that can't control a conversation with a suspect can't control people from a management standpoint
[23:27.320 --> 23:32.320]  because once they get wind of this conversation, he's toast.
[23:32.320 --> 23:38.320]  Well, I don't understand why he didn't just cough up the name of the chiefs and the supervisors to begin with.
[23:38.320 --> 23:46.320]  I mean, I can understand why he's protecting the individual who reported you to start the investigation
[23:46.320 --> 23:50.320]  because highly likely guaranteed it's the judge.
[23:50.320 --> 23:55.320]  And so that's why they're protecting, you know, the name of the entity who started all of this.
[23:55.320 --> 23:59.320]  But I don't know why he's trying to protect his boss or protect the chiefs.
[23:59.320 --> 24:03.320]  I mean, why doesn't he just go ahead and give the email address?
[24:03.320 --> 24:07.320]  It's because of the thin blue line.
[24:07.320 --> 24:11.320]  He's the citizen, the civilian.
[24:11.320 --> 24:19.320]  We are the good guys and we have to protect ourselves against them and we have to protect our brother officers.
[24:19.320 --> 24:26.320]  Well, there's another larger, more ominous aspect of this, though, that nobody's touching on.
[24:26.320 --> 24:32.320]  And that is that this officer is very well aware of the law on tampering with a witness.
[24:32.320 --> 24:39.320]  He knows that Michael has filings in an ongoing case in a municipal court.
[24:39.320 --> 24:47.320]  He also knows that the presiding judge of that court has asked this cop to interfere in an ongoing trial
[24:47.320 --> 24:51.320]  in a manner that is not within his authority under law.
[24:51.320 --> 24:57.320]  And if he gives her up, he is a party no questions asked.
[24:57.320 --> 25:11.320]  And I'm sure he's familiar, I think it's 3506, penal code, tampering with a witness, obstruction of justice, 3505, 3506.
[25:11.320 --> 25:20.320]  Isn't there a way to use open records to get the paper trail of how this investigation started?
[25:20.320 --> 25:21.320]  No.
[25:21.320 --> 25:23.320]  There is a paper trail instead of a phone call.
[25:23.320 --> 25:32.320]  This will be an ongoing investigation they'll claim that it's excluded.
[25:32.320 --> 25:37.320]  But the paper trail would reveal the name of the chief, though.
[25:37.320 --> 25:41.320]  Not if it was all done via phone call so that there wouldn't be a paper trail.
[25:41.320 --> 25:44.320]  But aren't all the phone calls recorded?
[25:44.320 --> 25:53.320]  In accordance with respondeat superior, you should subpoena Acevedo to testify in court to your sanity.
[25:53.320 --> 25:55.320]  I was actually strongly considering that.
[25:55.320 --> 26:02.320]  The next person above Jeff Hampton, Jeff Hampton's supervisor, is Julie O'Brien.
[26:02.320 --> 26:05.320]  Oh, I don't know her.
[26:05.320 --> 26:07.320]  Her name has not come up.
[26:07.320 --> 26:18.320]  However, I consider her likely that a female judge would contact her as a commander in the Austin Police Department.
[26:18.320 --> 26:27.320]  But I'm trying to get a hold of her and I'll, you know, but I still, other than Donnie Williamson, I haven't,
[26:27.320 --> 26:35.320]  I did contact an Edward Robinson and he, Donnie Williamson, had mentioned Eddie Robinson also made a request.
[26:35.320 --> 26:38.320]  And there's an Edward Robinson in City Hall.
[26:38.320 --> 26:47.320]  So there's kind of linkages between City Hall, between Austin Municipal Court and Austin Police Department through this contact.
[26:47.320 --> 26:53.320]  And that's why I keep wanting to ask these questions is basically, you know, where does this go?
[26:53.320 --> 26:55.320]  How did this originate?
[26:55.320 --> 27:01.320]  You mean, did the judge call City Hall and City Hall called the police department?
[27:01.320 --> 27:05.320]  Did she call the police department and police department called City Hall?
[27:05.320 --> 27:07.320]  You know, I don't know.
[27:07.320 --> 27:11.320]  You know, it's still sort of trying to produce that.
[27:11.320 --> 27:22.320]  As a sovereign, you should assume that everything that was done by these officers were done and at the direct request of Chief Acevedo.
[27:22.320 --> 27:28.320]  That's a good assumption, even if it isn't 100% correct, but probably as likely to be the case.
[27:28.320 --> 27:37.320]  He is responde superior in any case and it should come down from him, force him to give up somebody below him.
[27:37.320 --> 27:38.320]  Okay.
[27:38.320 --> 27:42.320]  Especially good if he had nothing to do with it.
[27:42.320 --> 27:44.320]  That's even better.
[27:44.320 --> 27:49.320]  He's going to be really, really unhappy when you do this to him.
[27:49.320 --> 27:57.320]  Well, I guess that's going to make, you know, on the next, you know, go around for trials, I've got to put in all my subpoena requests Monday.
[27:57.320 --> 28:01.320]  I guess he's, you know, going to make the list.
[28:01.320 --> 28:05.320]  Good.
[28:05.320 --> 28:06.320]  Okay.
[28:06.320 --> 28:11.320]  Listen, I just got a note from my call screener that Roy from Texas is on the line,
[28:11.320 --> 28:19.320]  and he says that he has all the information that you need for Austin PD and their salaries and everything.
[28:19.320 --> 28:20.320]  Roy, are you there?
[28:20.320 --> 28:21.320]  Yeah, I'm here.
[28:21.320 --> 28:26.320]  While you guys were talking, I was doing some research online, so I found a Web site.
[28:26.320 --> 28:36.320]  It's www.TexasTribune.org slash library slash data with another forward slash.
[28:36.320 --> 28:44.320]  It starts with the police chief. It goes all the way down to patrol officers and gives their position and their salary.
[28:44.320 --> 28:49.320]  Does it show a hierarchy of a chain of command of who is whose supervisor?
[28:49.320 --> 28:52.320]  Yeah, it starts at the top and goes down like this.
[28:52.320 --> 28:58.320]  Jeff Hanson, he makes $112,000 a year. Mike Turner makes $98,000.
[28:58.320 --> 28:59.320]  What?
[28:59.320 --> 29:01.320]  He's pretty well paid. Yeah.
[29:01.320 --> 29:02.320]  What?
[29:02.320 --> 29:03.320]  Yeah.
[29:03.320 --> 29:05.320]  Who says crime doesn't pay?
[29:05.320 --> 29:10.320]  Wait a minute. What about the guy who first called Mike Handel?
[29:10.320 --> 29:11.320]  Donnie Williamson?
[29:11.320 --> 29:13.320]  Yeah. How much does that guy make?
[29:13.320 --> 29:17.320]  He's a little further down. He's a sergeant, so I haven't gotten to him yet.
[29:17.320 --> 29:21.320]  Right now I'm in the lieutenants and captains.
[29:21.320 --> 29:28.320]  Debra, I've got your email address. I can copy and paste and forward it to you if you like.
[29:28.320 --> 29:32.320]  Yeah. Send it to me and Eddie so we can get it to Mike.
[29:32.320 --> 29:33.320]  Sure.
[29:33.320 --> 29:35.320]  This is ridiculous.
[29:35.320 --> 29:36.320]  Okay. Thank you guys.
[29:36.320 --> 29:37.320]  All right. Thanks, Roy.
[29:37.320 --> 29:38.320]  Thank you.
[29:38.320 --> 29:41.320]  All right. Do you have anything else for us, Mike?
[29:41.320 --> 29:46.320]  I guess that's all for today. There'll probably be some more stuff developing soon.
[29:46.320 --> 29:52.320]  All right. And Eddie has more recorded phone conversations that you gave him, so we'll be playing that on Monday.
[29:52.320 --> 29:53.320]  Okay.
[29:53.320 --> 29:54.320]  All right. We'll be right back, folks.
[29:54.320 --> 29:55.320]  Thank you guys very much.
[29:55.320 --> 30:03.320]  Thank you. We'll be right back.
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[32:20.320 --> 32:38.320]  I won't let you pull your wool over my eyes.
[32:38.320 --> 32:54.320]  They must refuse your news also coming live. It seems you like to spare, but please take some words to the wise.
[32:54.320 --> 33:21.320]  I'm trying to pull the wool over my eyes.
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[33:41.320 --> 33:56.320]  All right, we are back, folks. We are taking your calls. We've got another hour and a half left in our four-hour info marathon here on the rule of law, November 19, 2010.
[33:56.320 --> 34:00.320]  We've got a caller on the line. We only have one caller on the line right now, Sandra from California.
[34:00.320 --> 34:08.320]  So, folks, if you want to call in, call in now. Get your place in the queue, because we only got an hour and a half left.
[34:08.320 --> 34:11.320]  And you know how the calls always stack up, and then we don't have time for everyone at the end.
[34:11.320 --> 34:21.320]  So call in, 512-646-1984. We're going to Sandra in California, first-time caller. Sandra, thank you for calling in.
[34:21.320 --> 34:27.320]  Oh, hi. This is my first time listening to your radio station, too, and I like it so far.
[34:27.320 --> 34:30.320]  Oh, thank you. How did you find out about us?
[34:30.320 --> 34:44.320]  A friend of mine who kept telling me to call or to listen to your radio, and I kept thinking that if I did, that probably I'd have people trying to close down my computer.
[34:44.320 --> 34:50.320]  That's exactly what Sebel Edmonds was talking about earlier. We were talking about the Panopticon. Did you hear all that?
[34:50.320 --> 34:57.320]  I did. Yeah, I really like your station. I mean, it's not as bad as I thought.
[34:57.320 --> 35:04.320]  It's not like, you know, really, really bad, like really, you know, whatever you call it. I don't know what to call it.
[35:04.320 --> 35:07.320]  You're not really wacko, weirdo.
[35:07.320 --> 35:10.320]  Yeah, right. Yeah, you're not like that.
[35:10.320 --> 35:19.320]  No, what we do is we talk about things that are the truth. We research the issues. We research our guests. We're not conspiracy theorists.
[35:19.320 --> 35:26.320]  We don't talk about UFOs and things like that. We are into truth and reality.
[35:26.320 --> 35:27.320]  And remedy.
[35:27.320 --> 35:32.320]  And remedies and teaching people how they can teach themselves.
[35:32.320 --> 35:39.320]  You know, there's a proverb, if you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day. If you teach a man a fish, you feed him for a lifetime.
[35:39.320 --> 35:50.320]  We're here about remedies and about how to teach people to fish, how to teach people to take care of their own issues and to empower folks to stand up.
[35:50.320 --> 35:55.320]  Yes, I think that's great. I wish you would put it all on YouTube.
[35:55.320 --> 35:59.320]  Well, we have the archives and they can be spread around. We have podcasts.
[35:59.320 --> 36:06.320]  And yes, so if you go to our website, ruleoflawradio.com, but that's a good idea.
[36:06.320 --> 36:09.320]  I need help with the administrative aspect of this network.
[36:09.320 --> 36:17.320]  You know, I don't have time to set up all these social networking pages like Facebook and a YouTube channel and stuff like that.
[36:17.320 --> 36:21.320]  I've got some folks that are coming on board to help. And so that's a good idea.
[36:21.320 --> 36:27.320]  We should start, I mean, we don't have video. This is a radio show. It's not also a video show.
[36:27.320 --> 36:34.320]  It's not also a television show. But, you know, we could just have, you know, just images of us in the background or something.
[36:34.320 --> 36:38.320]  We need to get a YouTube channel and start posting on the archives on YouTube. That's a good idea.
[36:38.320 --> 36:45.320]  I wanted to do that, but I couldn't find a camera with a lens that would make me look like Tom Cruise.
[36:45.320 --> 36:47.320]  Oh, boy.
[36:47.320 --> 36:49.320]  Yeah, that's hard for any of us.
[36:49.320 --> 36:54.320]  Well, thanks. Thank you, Sandra. We appreciate that. So what is on your mind tonight?
[36:54.320 --> 37:04.320]  Okay. Well, mine isn't as exciting as the guy with all those people involved with the police and all that.
[37:04.320 --> 37:12.320]  But mine is actually about foreclosure and kind of like Bank of America.
[37:12.320 --> 37:19.320]  And so, you know, I've been in foreclosure since March of this year,
[37:19.320 --> 37:25.320]  and I've been trying to get Bank of America to do a loan workout or loan modification with me.
[37:25.320 --> 37:31.320]  And we just haven't been able to get one done. I mean, they keep saying that I'm qualified.
[37:31.320 --> 37:36.320]  Okay. You have to understand. Loan modification is a scam.
[37:36.320 --> 37:38.320]  Yeah, it seems like it.
[37:38.320 --> 37:46.320]  It is a scam, and while they're conning you into dealing with the loan modification,
[37:46.320 --> 37:48.320]  they'll be running the foreclosure.
[37:48.320 --> 37:54.320]  And then they'll call you one day and say, well, we denied your modification, and they'll sell your house immediately.
[37:54.320 --> 37:59.320]  Yeah, that's what's happening is that they're doing both at the same time.
[37:59.320 --> 38:06.320]  And I told them I have half of the money, and they still have a sales date.
[38:06.320 --> 38:11.320]  Okay. And so that's going to come up before I need to get the money figured out.
[38:11.320 --> 38:15.320]  There's only one thing that's going to stop them.
[38:15.320 --> 38:17.320]  Sue them.
[38:17.320 --> 38:21.320]  Once you sue them, then they're likely to come to the table.
[38:21.320 --> 38:24.320]  Until you sue them, they have no reason to.
[38:24.320 --> 38:28.320]  Right. And you know, I tried to do that with an attorney.
[38:28.320 --> 38:30.320]  They just took my money.
[38:30.320 --> 38:35.320]  You need to go to remediesinrealestate.com.
[38:35.320 --> 38:40.320]  We have a program put together to help people get into the courts,
[38:40.320 --> 38:43.320]  get the lenders stopped, and you do it pro se.
[38:43.320 --> 38:46.320]  It doesn't cost you very much.
[38:46.320 --> 38:49.320]  And we teach you how to handle it.
[38:49.320 --> 38:58.320]  And my whole purpose is to stop as many foreclosures as possible.
[38:58.320 --> 39:04.320]  And we've got about 200 stopped so far and a lot more coming.
[39:04.320 --> 39:08.320]  And the sky's falling in on the lenders, especially Bank of America.
[39:08.320 --> 39:11.320]  Oh, good. Yeah, that's who it is.
[39:11.320 --> 39:14.320]  They seem big trouble coming at them.
[39:14.320 --> 39:15.320]  I hope so.
[39:15.320 --> 39:22.320]  We just got an offer for a bank in New York.
[39:22.320 --> 39:26.320]  The guy has two loans, a million dollars.
[39:26.320 --> 39:31.320]  They made an offer to give him quiet title if he would drop the suit.
[39:31.320 --> 39:33.320]  Really? Wow.
[39:33.320 --> 39:37.320]  The banks are beginning to see the writing on the wall.
[39:37.320 --> 39:39.320]  Before the election, the lender,
[39:39.320 --> 39:43.320]  our politicians threw the lenders to the wolves.
[39:43.320 --> 39:46.320]  And where are the wolves?
[39:46.320 --> 39:48.320]  Oh, yeah.
[39:48.320 --> 39:56.320]  So go to, just send an email to randy at remediesinrealestate.com.
[39:56.320 --> 39:59.320]  Randy at remediesinrealestate.com.
[39:59.320 --> 40:04.320]  Yeah, and someone will get a hold of you and show you what we need to do.
[40:04.320 --> 40:06.320]  It's not all that difficult.
[40:06.320 --> 40:09.320]  People think about filing a suit in federal court.
[40:09.320 --> 40:12.320]  It's not that difficult to get into court.
[40:12.320 --> 40:17.320]  Now, the courts hate procès, and that's okay.
[40:17.320 --> 40:24.320]  The reason they hate procès is because we'll teach you how to be the procès from hell.
[40:24.320 --> 40:25.320]  Okay.
[40:25.320 --> 40:29.320]  They don't hate procès because procès file stupid pleadings. They like that part.
[40:29.320 --> 40:30.320]  Right.
[40:30.320 --> 40:34.320]  They hate procès because every once in a while they get a procès that knows how to come after them.
[40:34.320 --> 40:35.320]  Right.
[40:35.320 --> 40:45.320]  If you have an attorney, your attorney is not going to do anything to protect your rights if it runs the risk of annoying the judge.
[40:45.320 --> 40:46.320]  Oh, right.
[40:46.320 --> 40:49.320]  But as a procès, you don't care if you annoy the judge.
[40:49.320 --> 40:55.320]  In fact, with him, he's going to screw you away from Sunday anyway, so we get to hammer him.
[40:55.320 --> 40:57.320]  Right. Yeah, that's true.
[40:57.320 --> 41:00.320]  And primarily what you want to do is stop them.
[41:00.320 --> 41:01.320]  Yeah.
[41:01.320 --> 41:04.320]  And a bad lawsuit will stop them.
[41:04.320 --> 41:11.320]  A good lawsuit will most likely bring them to the table.
[41:11.320 --> 41:18.320]  It will stop them anyway, but it will most likely bring them to the table, especially if you're in modification.
[41:18.320 --> 41:29.320]  We're changing up what we're doing somewhat so that everyone that files, we're preparing for them a request for modification.
[41:29.320 --> 41:31.320]  We don't prepare the legal documents.
[41:31.320 --> 41:34.320]  We're contracting with attorneys to do that.
[41:34.320 --> 41:38.320]  We prepare a qualified written request and a tort letter.
[41:38.320 --> 41:45.320]  These are administrative documents, but we do all of the investigation, all of the analysis on the note,
[41:45.320 --> 41:50.320]  and we do a major calculation on the amount of fraud in the note.
[41:50.320 --> 41:55.320]  And then we send that through an attorney, get it converted into a lawsuit,
[41:55.320 --> 42:01.320]  and the attorney will effectively sell the documents to you to be cheap.
[42:01.320 --> 42:02.320]  And it's not that expensive?
[42:02.320 --> 42:04.320]  No, it's not.
[42:04.320 --> 42:11.320]  And nobody here is going to ask you for a percentage of your property if you win.
[42:11.320 --> 42:13.320]  And we sell documents.
[42:13.320 --> 42:15.320]  That's all we do.
[42:15.320 --> 42:17.320]  And we offer training.
[42:17.320 --> 42:20.320]  We offer pro se training.
[42:20.320 --> 42:22.320]  We don't want your property.
[42:22.320 --> 42:25.320]  We don't want a percentage of your property.
[42:25.320 --> 42:28.320]  We just sell you the documents.
[42:28.320 --> 42:34.320]  We want to get you into the courts, get the foreclosure stopped.
[42:34.320 --> 42:38.320]  We have a secondary reason for that.
[42:38.320 --> 42:49.320]  We're trying to stop as many foreclosures as possible to help stabilize the economy as much as we possibly can
[42:49.320 --> 42:56.320]  and thwart the real money people who are trying to swallow this country.
[42:56.320 --> 42:57.320]  I know.
[42:57.320 --> 43:01.320]  We realize we can't get it all done, but we're doing the best we can.
[43:01.320 --> 43:09.320]  So we set it up so that we can get people in at really low amounts.
[43:09.320 --> 43:13.320]  Generally, it's about one or one and a half house payments.
[43:13.320 --> 43:14.320]  Say that again?
[43:14.320 --> 43:17.320]  Generally, it will cost you about one or one and a half house payments
[43:17.320 --> 43:20.320]  depending on how high your payment is or how low it is.
[43:20.320 --> 43:21.320]  Okay.
[43:21.320 --> 43:24.320]  We want this available to everybody.
[43:24.320 --> 43:27.320]  And then eventually you'll have to have counsel.
[43:27.320 --> 43:35.320]  And we're cultivating attorneys that will use our procedures and build you by what he does,
[43:35.320 --> 43:39.320]  not ask for $10,000 and do nothing.
[43:39.320 --> 43:40.320]  Right.
[43:40.320 --> 43:42.320]  That way it's easy to handle.
[43:42.320 --> 43:46.320]  When you get to the point you need an attorney, you'll be able to afford the attorney,
[43:46.320 --> 43:49.320]  you'll be a reasonable price, and we get things done.
[43:49.320 --> 43:50.320]  Okay.
[43:50.320 --> 43:52.320]  I can't see my clock.
[43:52.320 --> 43:54.320]  All right, folks, we're about to go to break.
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[46:48.320 --> 47:17.320]  All right, folks.
[47:17.320 --> 47:18.320]  We are back.
[47:18.320 --> 47:22.320]  Rule of Law Radio, Eddie Craig, Debra Stevens, Randy Kelton.
[47:22.320 --> 47:25.320]  Randy, you're having a conversation with this young lady about her foreclosure.
[47:25.320 --> 47:26.320]  Yes, Sandra.
[47:26.320 --> 47:27.320]  Yes.
[47:27.320 --> 47:30.320]  Okay.
[47:30.320 --> 47:33.320]  How far along in the foreclosure are you?
[47:33.320 --> 47:38.320]  Well, there's a sales date of December the 15th.
[47:38.320 --> 47:40.320]  Okay, you need to move quickly.
[47:40.320 --> 47:41.320]  Yes, I know.
[47:41.320 --> 47:43.320]  December 15th, you have enough time.
[47:43.320 --> 47:46.320]  It's always hard to get emergency restraining order.
[47:46.320 --> 47:52.320]  But if we go in and just ask for a preliminary injunction, that's a lot easier.
[47:52.320 --> 47:57.320]  And emergency restraining order is if you have less than 14 days.
[47:57.320 --> 48:02.320]  So you need to get in quickly to avoid the emergency restraining order.
[48:02.320 --> 48:05.320]  Generally, when the judge denies the emergency restraining order,
[48:05.320 --> 48:07.320]  he denies the preliminary injunction.
[48:07.320 --> 48:12.320]  And we want to go in and say that you're working the loan modification,
[48:12.320 --> 48:21.320]  and the chump is trying to foreclose while he's pretending to work the modification.
[48:21.320 --> 48:23.320]  So he's trying to defraud you,
[48:23.320 --> 48:27.320]  and you want to ask the court to restrain him from foreclosing
[48:27.320 --> 48:32.320]  until you can have an effective loan modification.
[48:32.320 --> 48:36.320]  And good chance we can get that one.
[48:36.320 --> 48:37.320]  So you need to move quickly.
[48:37.320 --> 48:42.320]  So just send an e-mail, someone will get back to you probably tomorrow.
[48:42.320 --> 48:44.320]  Oh, send you an e-mail?
[48:44.320 --> 48:48.320]  Yes, just send it to randyatribediesinrealestate.com.
[48:48.320 --> 48:49.320]  Okay.
[48:49.320 --> 48:50.320]  All right, I will.
[48:50.320 --> 48:51.320]  Okay.
[48:51.320 --> 48:55.320]  And then you'll tell me kind of how to proceed, because I do see your Web site,
[48:55.320 --> 48:58.320]  but yeah, that's a good start.
[48:58.320 --> 49:00.320]  I just wouldn't know where to go.
[49:00.320 --> 49:06.320]  Okay, we have a pro se program where we train you in what to expect
[49:06.320 --> 49:09.320]  and how to handle yourself.
[49:09.320 --> 49:10.320]  You'll like it.
[49:10.320 --> 49:12.320]  You'll like it.
[49:12.320 --> 49:17.320]  Is that on here too on this page or back at the radio?
[49:17.320 --> 49:20.320]  No, that will be remedies in real estate.
[49:20.320 --> 49:22.320]  Oh, okay, so it's here too.
[49:22.320 --> 49:27.320]  I'll just get ahold of them and they'll get you all set up.
[49:27.320 --> 49:30.320]  Okay, so that's here.
[49:30.320 --> 49:32.320]  I didn't see that here.
[49:32.320 --> 49:34.320]  Pro se program you said?
[49:34.320 --> 49:37.320]  Oh, they'll explain that to you.
[49:37.320 --> 49:38.320]  Okay.
[49:38.320 --> 49:40.320]  Did you want to ask them something?
[49:40.320 --> 49:42.320]  No, no, I have a friend who wants to ask something.
[49:42.320 --> 49:43.320]  Would that be okay?
[49:43.320 --> 49:44.320]  Yes, go ahead.
[49:44.320 --> 49:48.320]  Okay, hold on.
[49:48.320 --> 49:49.320]  Hi.
[49:49.320 --> 49:50.320]  Hello.
[49:50.320 --> 49:55.320]  Hi, I just want to know more because we've been burned by, you know,
[49:55.320 --> 49:57.320]  people wanting to help and everything,
[49:57.320 --> 50:04.320]  and because this is our last kind of like last ditch effort to, you know,
[50:04.320 --> 50:09.320]  find some to help us with the foreclosure,
[50:09.320 --> 50:14.320]  and I just don't want to get like burned again by people, you know.
[50:14.320 --> 50:16.320]  Okay.
[50:16.320 --> 50:20.320]  I just want to make sure that, you know, you guys are legit and...
[50:20.320 --> 50:25.320]  Okay, what could I do to make you feel like we were legit?
[50:25.320 --> 50:29.320]  That you won't charge us until we get the settlement,
[50:29.320 --> 50:32.320]  until we get the foreclosure stopped.
[50:32.320 --> 50:34.320]  Okay, we sell a product.
[50:34.320 --> 50:35.320]  Uh-huh.
[50:35.320 --> 50:38.320]  So we make the exchange.
[50:38.320 --> 50:40.320]  You pay us, we give you the product.
[50:40.320 --> 50:43.320]  We don't do a lot of song and dance.
[50:43.320 --> 50:45.320]  We don't ask for any percentages.
[50:45.320 --> 50:48.320]  We don't ask for any of that garbage.
[50:48.320 --> 50:51.320]  If you don't like the product, we're going to give it to you, send it back.
[50:51.320 --> 50:55.320]  We send you money back immediately.
[50:55.320 --> 50:56.320]  Okay.
[50:56.320 --> 50:58.320]  And how much is that now?
[50:58.320 --> 51:01.320]  I am forbidden to let that out on the air.
[51:01.320 --> 51:03.320]  My CEO is...
[51:03.320 --> 51:05.320]  Is that like a sliding scale?
[51:05.320 --> 51:06.320]  Pardon me?
[51:06.320 --> 51:07.320]  Is that like a sliding scale?
[51:07.320 --> 51:08.320]  No.
[51:08.320 --> 51:09.320]  So?
[51:09.320 --> 51:10.320]  It's cheap.
[51:10.320 --> 51:12.320]  So it's just like one price for...
[51:12.320 --> 51:13.320]  Yes.
[51:13.320 --> 51:14.320] ...regardless of where you live.
[51:14.320 --> 51:16.320]  It's one price for the original documents,
[51:16.320 --> 51:23.320]  and then if we have to produce others, we have pretty well standard documents
[51:23.320 --> 51:25.320]  that the computer produces.
[51:25.320 --> 51:29.320]  And then we have paralegals if we have to make adjustments.
[51:29.320 --> 51:30.320]  But it's just...
[51:30.320 --> 51:33.320]  If there's an adjustment, it's just whatever the paralegal time is,
[51:33.320 --> 51:36.320]  and that's like $30 an hour.
[51:36.320 --> 51:37.320]  Yeah.
[51:37.320 --> 51:41.320]  How about like people who scam people who are like...
[51:41.320 --> 51:44.320]  People who are like desperate to find solutions,
[51:44.320 --> 51:47.320]  and then they go with like lawyers who are like...
[51:47.320 --> 51:50.320]  Don't really do anything and say they'll help you modify,
[51:50.320 --> 51:53.320]  but then they take your money and they don't really do anything.
[51:53.320 --> 51:57.320]  Which we end up, you know, doing ourselves right now
[51:57.320 --> 52:01.320]  because, you know, they're not doing anything, and they took money.
[52:01.320 --> 52:03.320]  This is part of why we got into this.
[52:03.320 --> 52:06.320]  People had no remedy.
[52:06.320 --> 52:09.320]  We've got a couple hundred people that's still in their houses
[52:09.320 --> 52:13.320]  because they filed our paperwork.
[52:13.320 --> 52:19.320]  But talk to the people there and make your decision.
[52:19.320 --> 52:22.320]  You know, ask them lots of questions.
[52:22.320 --> 52:25.320]  And absolutely, if you're not satisfied, we'll give you money back.
[52:25.320 --> 52:29.320]  This is not about seeing how much money we can make.
[52:29.320 --> 52:30.320]  All right.
[52:30.320 --> 52:31.320]  Okay.
[52:31.320 --> 52:32.320]  All right.
[52:32.320 --> 52:34.320]  Well, that's all my question, and I'll check your website.
[52:34.320 --> 52:35.320]  Here's Sandra.
[52:35.320 --> 52:36.320]  Okay.
[52:36.320 --> 52:39.320]  Just listen to our radio show.
[52:39.320 --> 52:40.320]  We're on.
[52:40.320 --> 52:43.320]  We've been on for four years.
[52:43.320 --> 52:46.320]  So far, people have been happy with us.
[52:46.320 --> 52:49.320]  Yeah, I'm happy so far.
[52:49.320 --> 52:51.320]  That was my friend's most.
[52:51.320 --> 52:53.320]  She just gets a little...
[52:53.320 --> 52:57.320]  She's concerned, and it's good to be concerned.
[52:57.320 --> 52:59.320]  And frankly, I don't mind those questions
[52:59.320 --> 53:01.320]  because they're legitimate questions.
[53:01.320 --> 53:06.320]  She's more concerned on the 2Q trusting, and that's how I know.
[53:06.320 --> 53:09.320]  That's how we lost the money with the attorneys.
[53:09.320 --> 53:13.320]  So I'll email you tonight or tomorrow, or probably right now,
[53:13.320 --> 53:16.320]  and so you'll have it tomorrow then, my email address.
[53:16.320 --> 53:18.320]  Someone will get back to you.
[53:18.320 --> 53:19.320]  All right.
[53:19.320 --> 53:20.320]  Thank you, Randy.
[53:20.320 --> 53:21.320]  That was real helpful.
[53:21.320 --> 53:22.320]  Okay.
[53:22.320 --> 53:23.320]  You are welcome.
[53:23.320 --> 53:24.320]  All right.
[53:24.320 --> 53:25.320]  Thanks.
[53:25.320 --> 53:26.320]  Bye-bye.
[53:26.320 --> 53:27.320]  Okay.
[53:27.320 --> 53:28.320]  Now we're going to Mark from Texas.
[53:28.320 --> 53:30.320]  Mark, what's on your mind about it?
[53:30.320 --> 53:32.320]  It's Mike.
[53:32.320 --> 53:34.320]  Oh, it is Mike.
[53:34.320 --> 53:35.320]  Yeah.
[53:35.320 --> 53:41.320]  Oops, somehow I had Mark from Wisconsin in my brain when I looked at it.
[53:41.320 --> 53:42.320]  Okay.
[53:42.320 --> 53:43.320]  Hello, Mike.
[53:43.320 --> 53:46.320]  Hey, listen, how's the call board?
[53:46.320 --> 53:49.320]  Is it pretty heavy right now?
[53:49.320 --> 53:50.320]  No, it's pretty good.
[53:50.320 --> 53:52.320]  We've got a couple of people, so we've got some time.
[53:52.320 --> 53:53.320]  Okay.
[53:53.320 --> 54:03.320]  Well, I just wanted to make a comment, and then I wanted to ask a question.
[54:03.320 --> 54:05.320]  My comment is this.
[54:05.320 --> 54:10.320]  I just couldn't believe you had Sabelle Edmonds on.
[54:10.320 --> 54:16.320]  I had no idea until I turned on the program that Sabelle Edmonds was going to be on,
[54:16.320 --> 54:19.320]  and it just blew my mind.
[54:19.320 --> 54:31.320]  She is just an incredible person and so much courage.
[54:31.320 --> 54:34.320]  She took on the big guys.
[54:34.320 --> 54:35.320]  Yeah, I know.
[54:35.320 --> 54:38.320]  I mean, wow.
[54:38.320 --> 54:46.320]  Anyway, it really made me think.
[54:46.320 --> 54:51.320]  I hope you guys will indulge me, but when I was a kid growing up,
[54:51.320 --> 54:54.320]  I didn't have a lot of heroes.
[54:54.320 --> 55:03.320]  All the kids around me had all these heroes, football players and people like that,
[55:03.320 --> 55:06.320]  and I didn't really have any.
[55:06.320 --> 55:18.320]  It just felt funny to me that somebody would look up to other people.
[55:18.320 --> 55:27.320]  I would say in the last five years, I've really figured out what a real hero
[55:27.320 --> 55:36.320]  and a real role model is all about, and it is in this movement.
[55:36.320 --> 55:41.320]  It is in the freedom movement.
[55:41.320 --> 55:49.320]  All of the people involved in this are powerful people,
[55:49.320 --> 55:58.320]  and you, Randy, and Deborah, and Eddie, are very powerful.
[55:58.320 --> 56:06.320]  I don't even know if you guys even realize that, but you're very powerful,
[56:06.320 --> 56:12.320]  and I don't even know if the listeners even really get it,
[56:12.320 --> 56:17.320]  that you could just as easily turn your whole back on,
[56:17.320 --> 56:24.320]  you could turn your back on the public and just make yourself a nice little career
[56:24.320 --> 56:30.320]  and just go wherever if you wanted to.
[56:30.320 --> 56:36.320]  I think what makes a real hero is somebody who says, hey, you know,
[56:36.320 --> 56:44.320]  some things are more important, and I really see that in you three.
[56:44.320 --> 56:54.320]  I really love this program, and it means a lot to me.
[56:54.320 --> 57:00.320]  I can remember when you guys were on the We the People Network,
[57:00.320 --> 57:07.320]  and I remember the last broadcast that you did on there and how emotional Deborah was,
[57:07.320 --> 57:12.320]  and it was scary to me.
[57:12.320 --> 57:17.320]  It was so scary to me, I was thinking, they're gone.
[57:17.320 --> 57:23.320]  I'm never going to find them again.
[57:23.320 --> 57:28.320]  When I found out that you guys did what you did,
[57:28.320 --> 57:34.320]  I can't tell you what an inspiration that's been to me.
[57:34.320 --> 57:42.320]  And I mean, we have so many people in this movement that are just regular people.
[57:42.320 --> 57:50.320]  They're not rock stars, they're not football players, they're not, you know, fancy politicians.
[57:50.320 --> 57:55.320]  These are just regular people who have guts.
[57:55.320 --> 58:01.320]  Well, I think, you know, a lot of people know me personally,
[58:01.320 --> 58:06.320]  and they think I'm a regular person, and I think I'm a regular person.
[58:06.320 --> 58:12.320]  And we are, we just have special motivations.
[58:12.320 --> 58:16.320]  And I'd like to address that when I come back,
[58:16.320 --> 58:22.320]  this thing of worshiping somebody as a hero is kind of inappropriate.
[58:22.320 --> 58:25.320]  Eddie, Deborah, and I were put in this place to do this thing,
[58:25.320 --> 58:28.320]  and we don't really have any choice about it.
[58:28.320 --> 58:31.320]  We're just following the path put before us.
[58:31.320 --> 58:34.320]  We're going to break, we'll come back on the other side,
[58:34.320 --> 58:37.320]  we'll address this on the other side a little bit,
[58:37.320 --> 58:42.320]  but I really do appreciate the fact that we think what we're doing is important.
[58:42.320 --> 58:46.320]  Sometimes when you're sitting looking at a microphone, it's hard to tell that.
[58:46.320 --> 58:49.320]  Okay, this is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig,
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[01:03:20.320 --> 01:03:34.320]  Okay, we're back. Randy Kelton, Devin Stevens, Eddie Craig, Rule of Law Radio.
[01:03:34.320 --> 01:03:39.320]  And I do want to talk about this hero thing.
[01:03:39.320 --> 01:03:50.320]  None of us who do this think of ourselves as heroes, me especially.
[01:03:50.320 --> 01:03:54.320]  Frankly, I have no choice.
[01:03:54.320 --> 01:04:01.320]  This path was put in front of me, and I have no option but to follow it.
[01:04:01.320 --> 01:04:05.320]  Other people are put on different paths.
[01:04:05.320 --> 01:04:10.320]  And what Sebel was saying earlier about it doesn't take everyone.
[01:04:10.320 --> 01:04:16.320]  It just takes a few to move the mass.
[01:04:16.320 --> 01:04:19.320]  So everybody doesn't have to be out here doing what we're doing.
[01:04:19.320 --> 01:04:28.320]  And if somebody, you know, if you've got a wife, you've got kids, you've got a mortgage, you've got responsibilities,
[01:04:28.320 --> 01:04:31.320]  don't feel bad because you're not out here doing what I'm doing.
[01:04:31.320 --> 01:04:35.320]  My kids are grown. My house is paid for.
[01:04:35.320 --> 01:04:41.320]  I don't owe anybody anything. I have no debt.
[01:04:41.320 --> 01:04:46.320]  So I can afford to take more risks.
[01:04:46.320 --> 01:04:51.320]  My children are grown. I have fulfilled my contract with life.
[01:04:51.320 --> 01:04:54.320]  I get to do other things.
[01:04:54.320 --> 01:05:01.320]  And I don't like it that people feel like they're shirking their duty because they're not throwing down their whole life
[01:05:01.320 --> 01:05:08.320]  and running out here getting their ribs kicked in, teeth knocked out, collarbones broke.
[01:05:08.320 --> 01:05:15.320]  Anyway, everybody, you know, we each have our own path to follow.
[01:05:15.320 --> 01:05:25.320]  But I absolutely do appreciate that, you know, people are listening and that we're having an effect.
[01:05:25.320 --> 01:05:30.320]  Eddie and Deborah and I, we sit here and we speak into a microphone.
[01:05:30.320 --> 01:05:33.320]  We don't have people looking at us.
[01:05:33.320 --> 01:05:37.320]  So we can't see the kinds of responses we're getting.
[01:05:37.320 --> 01:05:52.320]  I think, look, the other Mike, the other Mike from Texas, you know, that is an example of just how powerful.
[01:05:52.320 --> 01:05:59.320]  I'm glad you mentioned that. My primary study is psychology and language. It's not law.
[01:05:59.320 --> 01:06:08.320]  And for me to listen to that, I don't think Mike even realizes how remarkable that was.
[01:06:08.320 --> 01:06:20.320]  Can you hear in his voice that it's like, hey, I'm going to throw myself up against you.
[01:06:20.320 --> 01:06:28.320]  And, you know, I'm a little worried about that, but I'm a little bit more worried if I don't.
[01:06:28.320 --> 01:06:34.320]  That's kind of the message that I got from listening to that conversation tonight.
[01:06:34.320 --> 01:06:41.320]  And I got to say that that man has earned my respect.
[01:06:41.320 --> 01:06:47.320]  Mine too, and mine for a subtle reason.
[01:06:47.320 --> 01:06:55.320]  There's something he did linguistically that was extremely difficult.
[01:06:55.320 --> 01:07:02.320]  We kept him on task the whole time. I was incredibly impressed with that.
[01:07:02.320 --> 01:07:10.320]  If I ask you a question, you have this internal impulse to respond to me.
[01:07:10.320 --> 01:07:19.320]  If I make an accusation against you, you have this internal impulse to defend yourself or to explain yourself.
[01:07:19.320 --> 01:07:25.320]  Conditioning. It's conditioning. We're conditioned on Earth. Act that way.
[01:07:25.320 --> 01:07:32.320]  Well, in normal conversation, that's fine. It's a great way to be.
[01:07:32.320 --> 01:07:38.320]  But Mike demonstrated a more advanced technology.
[01:07:38.320 --> 01:07:40.320]  Absolutely.
[01:07:40.320 --> 01:07:50.320]  He was not in normal conversation, and he was able to shut off that set of skills and draw on another set of skills.
[01:07:50.320 --> 01:07:55.320]  I am in awe of that guy. I wish I could do that.
[01:07:55.320 --> 01:08:02.320]  I think we should all listen to that recording a number of times.
[01:08:02.320 --> 01:08:11.320]  And not so much to pay attention to what is said, but pay attention to how you feel.
[01:08:11.320 --> 01:08:24.320]  When the officer asks a question or when he makes an accusation, listen to yourself and listen to how you feel like responding to it.
[01:08:24.320 --> 01:08:34.320]  And understand that he is deliberately attempting to elicit exactly that kind of response.
[01:08:34.320 --> 01:08:39.320]  And what Mike kept doing is what in psychology we call pattern interruptions.
[01:08:39.320 --> 01:08:47.320]  The officer initiated an interaction, and he had an expectation of a response.
[01:08:47.320 --> 01:08:54.320]  And Mike didn't give him that response, and he didn't give him the alternative.
[01:08:54.320 --> 01:08:59.320]  He didn't go for the detour. I was so proud of him for that.
[01:08:59.320 --> 01:09:05.320]  He was just like, I'm digging my teeth into you, and I'm not going to let go until you give me that answer.
[01:09:05.320 --> 01:09:13.320]  Okay, let me put in a word for the officer. I listened to what went on.
[01:09:13.320 --> 01:09:24.320]  The officer put up with a lot from Mike and never lost his cool, never got ignorant.
[01:09:24.320 --> 01:09:35.320]  And what I got from that is that he knew he had been suckered into doing something stupid, something he didn't like doing.
[01:09:35.320 --> 01:09:40.320]  It went against his grain, but he did it because his bosses ordered him to.
[01:09:40.320 --> 01:09:47.320]  And now he's sitting here having to put up with this retribution that he knew full well he earned.
[01:09:47.320 --> 01:09:57.320]  Hey, you know, there's another possibility that that very well may have been initiated by that officer.
[01:09:57.320 --> 01:09:58.320]  Not a chance.
[01:09:58.320 --> 01:10:08.320]  That investigation could have been initiated by him, not as an official investigation, but as an intimidation tactic.
[01:10:08.320 --> 01:10:11.320]  Yeah, he knew that. He knew Mike knew that.
[01:10:11.320 --> 01:10:18.320]  It was clear that everybody knew that that was an attempt to intimidate a witness.
[01:10:18.320 --> 01:10:25.320]  But Mike put him on the spot, and I could feel that cop's heart jumping.
[01:10:25.320 --> 01:10:30.320]  When Mike was sticking to that, he was like, I'm not falling for your tactics.
[01:10:30.320 --> 01:10:39.320]  Well, normally when you step in the middle of a cop that way, they get all angry and they do all this mucho macho crap.
[01:10:39.320 --> 01:10:40.320]  This guy...
[01:10:40.320 --> 01:10:48.320]  He had too much to lose, though. I mean, he really, I think he really, this really was, this was not,
[01:10:48.320 --> 01:10:55.320]  I don't think this was an overt official investigation of the conversation that I heard.
[01:10:55.320 --> 01:10:56.320]  Everybody knows.
[01:10:56.320 --> 01:10:58.320]  I mean, that's just my feeling about it.
[01:10:58.320 --> 01:11:05.320]  You're right. Everybody knows this was absolutely nonsense and it was absolutely intended to intimidate.
[01:11:05.320 --> 01:11:06.320]  Yeah.
[01:11:06.320 --> 01:11:12.320]  But what I got from that conversation is I have to give the cop credit.
[01:11:12.320 --> 01:11:13.320]  Oh, yeah.
[01:11:13.320 --> 01:11:18.320]  He was very professional. He handled himself well. He was in an untenable situation.
[01:11:18.320 --> 01:11:27.320]  Somebody else put him in that spot. Now he's stuck with it. He doesn't dare give up his boss.
[01:11:27.320 --> 01:11:28.320]  Yeah.
[01:11:28.320 --> 01:11:35.320]  So he's got to take all this guff from this guy, but he never lost his cool.
[01:11:35.320 --> 01:11:40.320]  He knew that if he lost his cool, that it would go downhill, that it would be worse for him.
[01:11:40.320 --> 01:11:42.320]  Right. That's what I think.
[01:11:42.320 --> 01:11:47.320]  Well, from my perspective, it was good that he had that technology himself.
[01:11:47.320 --> 01:11:48.320]  Yeah.
[01:11:48.320 --> 01:11:52.320]  That he had the personal self-discipline to be a professional.
[01:11:52.320 --> 01:11:59.320]  From both sides, I thought that was pleasing.
[01:11:59.320 --> 01:12:11.320]  Well, not only that, but the fact that you guys aired that on the program tonight is an incredible educational opportunity for everybody who's listening.
[01:12:11.320 --> 01:12:34.320]  And that kind of leads back into the comment that I was making earlier, which is so many people who are involved in the different aspects of the freedom movement in this country,
[01:12:34.320 --> 01:12:42.320]  they really can be, and really by all rights should be, in positions of authority.
[01:12:42.320 --> 01:12:49.320]  And yet they, rather than turning their back on the public, they turn their back on the control.
[01:12:49.320 --> 01:12:53.320]  And they say, you know what? The control belongs to the people.
[01:12:53.320 --> 01:13:08.320]  And because of what you're doing, we're seeing results from that. And I think Mike is an excellent, excellent example of that.
[01:13:08.320 --> 01:13:13.320]  And Mike is, he's about as ordinary as they get.
[01:13:13.320 --> 01:13:25.320]  And I think that, well, in one respect, dealing with that officer, there wasn't a thing ordinary about that. And I always am pleased to find depth in people.
[01:13:25.320 --> 01:13:31.320]  And he showed a lot of depth. Our call board is beginning to build up.
[01:13:31.320 --> 01:13:45.320]  Let me ask one question of all of you guys. The Max Kaiser buying silver, $500 silver thing, what are your thoughts on that?
[01:13:45.320 --> 01:13:48.320]  And then I'll let you go, because I know you've got to call us.
[01:13:48.320 --> 01:13:50.320]  Max Kaiser.
[01:13:50.320 --> 01:13:58.320]  Yeah, the big $500 silver movement to shut down JP Morgan and all that. Have you guys not heard about that?
[01:13:58.320 --> 01:14:00.320]  No, I have not.
[01:14:00.320 --> 01:14:04.320]  Okay, check that out. Go to MaxKaiser.com and check that out.
[01:14:04.320 --> 01:14:13.320]  It's hard. Generally, Eddie and I don't keep up well with current events because we're buried in research.
[01:14:13.320 --> 01:14:17.320]  This is an incredibly important thing to check out, though.
[01:14:17.320 --> 01:14:18.320]  I will have a look at it.
[01:14:18.320 --> 01:14:28.320]  Yeah, I mean, it's been so long since I've gotten into a current event. I didn't even get to see Reagan's speech yesterday.
[01:14:28.320 --> 01:14:35.320]  Yeah, I don't own a television or a radio. Wouldn't have time for him if I did.
[01:14:35.320 --> 01:14:40.320]  Wow, you wouldn't get to hear about Max Kaiser if you were watching TV or listening to radio.
[01:14:40.320 --> 01:14:50.320]  That's probably true. Speaking of heroes, I would like to go to Jason next. I talked to Jason at Brave New Books.
[01:14:50.320 --> 01:14:52.320]  Oh, yeah.
[01:14:52.320 --> 01:14:56.320]  And he's the one that went to the grand jury.
[01:14:56.320 --> 01:14:59.320]  Oh, yeah. I can't wait to hear about that.
[01:14:59.320 --> 01:15:04.320]  I felt like the master sitting at the feet of the student. Here's another one.
[01:15:04.320 --> 01:15:06.320]  I can't wait to hear this one.
[01:15:06.320 --> 01:15:15.320]  He conducted himself like a consummate professional. And when you do that to him, they have no way of dealing with you.
[01:15:15.320 --> 01:15:16.320]  Absolutely.
[01:15:16.320 --> 01:15:18.320]  Okay, Jason, are you there?
[01:15:18.320 --> 01:15:20.320]  Hey, Randy.
[01:15:20.320 --> 01:15:24.320]  Okay, who have you stirred up today?
[01:15:24.320 --> 01:15:26.320]  Well, you got Jason, but I think you got the wrong one.
[01:15:26.320 --> 01:15:33.320]  Oh, okay. You're not the Jason from Texas who beat up the Travis County grand jury.
[01:15:33.320 --> 01:15:35.320]  No, I wish it was me, but no, it's not me.
[01:15:35.320 --> 01:15:39.320]  Okay. You're a hero for calling into our show anyway.
[01:15:39.320 --> 01:15:41.320]  I'll take that.
[01:15:41.320 --> 01:15:51.320]  Hey, I've got a quick question about motions. In my case, I'll be filing six criminal charges against six police officers.
[01:15:51.320 --> 01:15:59.320]  And when I do finally get my pretrial hearing, I'm going to be filing motions to disqualify those officers.
[01:15:59.320 --> 01:16:10.320]  And my question is, in my motions, do I mention anything about the criminal charges that I've filed or any of their actions being criminal, or do I just...
[01:16:10.320 --> 01:16:11.320]  Absolutely.
[01:16:11.320 --> 01:16:12.320]  Okay.
[01:16:12.320 --> 01:16:16.320]  Have you looked on Jurisimprudence.com?
[01:16:16.320 --> 01:16:17.320]  I live there.
[01:16:17.320 --> 01:16:22.320]  Okay. Did you find my motion to disqualify the police officer?
[01:16:22.320 --> 01:16:23.320]  Yes, I sure did.
[01:16:23.320 --> 01:16:27.320]  Good, good. Did you plagiarize it?
[01:16:27.320 --> 01:16:29.320]  Very much so.
[01:16:29.320 --> 01:16:30.320]  Oh, good.
[01:16:30.320 --> 01:16:38.320]  And I added different things, but I just needed to know if I need to stick to the due process or include that.
[01:16:38.320 --> 01:16:43.320]  Okay, hold on. We're about to go to break. We'll pick this back up on the other side.
[01:16:43.320 --> 01:16:52.320]  Randy Kelton, David Stevens, Eddie Craig, The Rule of Law Radio. We'll be back shortly with Hero Jason.
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[01:18:09.320 --> 01:18:12.320]  Oh, well, I guess you haven't heard of Brave New Books, then.
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[01:19:02.320 --> 01:19:25.320]  Oh, come on.
[01:19:25.320 --> 01:19:34.320]  Okay, this is Randy Kelton. That was Steve and David Craig, Rule of Law Radio.
[01:19:34.320 --> 01:19:37.320]  We're back. We're talking to Hero Jason from Texas.
[01:19:37.320 --> 01:19:41.320]  And you really are a hero. You're taking on your own case and fighting these guys.
[01:19:41.320 --> 01:19:45.320]  Yeah, I've got to do something about it. You know, I've been delayed.
[01:19:45.320 --> 01:19:51.320]  It's been over almost a year and four months now, and I still haven't even had a pre-trial motion to keep getting delayed.
[01:19:51.320 --> 01:19:58.320]  But getting to this motion, your motion covers a lot of due process.
[01:19:58.320 --> 01:20:06.320]  And the reason I'm moving to disqualify them is because they fabricated evidence in order to effect an arrest.
[01:20:06.320 --> 01:20:12.320]  So being that that is above and beyond due process, would I include that in the motion as well?
[01:20:12.320 --> 01:20:19.320]  Because I'm trying to be as clinical as I can about this and just include their due process violations.
[01:20:19.320 --> 01:20:26.320]  And I kind of think that if I start throwing accusations into a motion, would that jeopardize?
[01:20:26.320 --> 01:20:30.320]  Okay, your motion is a motion to disqualify.
[01:20:30.320 --> 01:20:31.320]  Yes.
[01:20:31.320 --> 01:20:39.320]  And in a motion to disqualify, you have to make accusations to give cause for disqualification.
[01:20:39.320 --> 01:20:40.320]  Okay.
[01:20:40.320 --> 01:20:43.320]  So it's absolutely appropriate.
[01:20:43.320 --> 01:20:47.320]  Okay. Well, that'll work. I know you've got colors backing up. That answered my question. I appreciate it.
[01:20:47.320 --> 01:20:50.320]  Okay. You can call them dirty rotten scumbags.
[01:20:50.320 --> 01:20:54.320]  I got worse than that.
[01:20:54.320 --> 01:21:02.320]  But yeah, nice and professional, nice and to the point and go right for their hearts.
[01:21:02.320 --> 01:21:05.320]  No quarter.
[01:21:05.320 --> 01:21:07.320]  Okay. Thank you.
[01:21:07.320 --> 01:21:11.320]  Okay. Now we're going to Chad from Texas.
[01:21:11.320 --> 01:21:14.320]  Chad, what's on your mind tonight?
[01:21:14.320 --> 01:21:17.320]  Hey, guys.
[01:21:17.320 --> 01:21:23.320]  I filed a motion to dismiss for lack of jurisdiction, no information or indictment in a traffic case.
[01:21:23.320 --> 01:21:30.320]  And the judge said it's a justice of the peace, that she doesn't have authority to dismiss a case,
[01:21:30.320 --> 01:21:33.320]  that only the district attorney can do that.
[01:21:33.320 --> 01:21:36.320]  That sounds like it.
[01:21:36.320 --> 01:21:38.320]  Well, that's true and that's false.
[01:21:38.320 --> 01:21:44.320]  The district attorney can petition to have it dismissed and then the judge can grant the petition,
[01:21:44.320 --> 01:21:48.320]  but she cannot, neither of them can simply dismiss it themselves.
[01:21:48.320 --> 01:21:51.320]  Whoa, of course she can.
[01:21:51.320 --> 01:21:54.320]  If she finds no grounds for the cause, she can.
[01:21:54.320 --> 01:22:00.320]  No, she can dismiss the case in the interest of justice. That's in her discretion.
[01:22:00.320 --> 01:22:06.320]  And if she finds that there's insufficient cause to continue the case, she has a duty to dismiss.
[01:22:06.320 --> 01:22:11.320]  And if you give her cause to dismiss, she absolutely has authority.
[01:22:11.320 --> 01:22:16.320]  Well, I very clearly laid out the law in my motion to dismiss.
[01:22:16.320 --> 01:22:27.320]  It sounds like your JP bought that story and used a dodge to keep from dismissing.
[01:22:27.320 --> 01:22:29.320]  Well, I don't think she's a lawyer.
[01:22:29.320 --> 01:22:34.320]  And I think she was just going on whatever the prosecutor told her the law was.
[01:22:34.320 --> 01:22:43.320]  Then you should file a judicial conduct complaint against her, not out of anger or meanness,
[01:22:43.320 --> 01:22:52.320]  but if she wants to listen to these lawyers who the only way you can tell if they're lying is if their mouth's moving,
[01:22:52.320 --> 01:22:59.320]  you need to demonstrate to her why that can be a bad idea.
[01:22:59.320 --> 01:23:04.320]  But even if you like her, those are the best ones.
[01:23:04.320 --> 01:23:09.320]  We had a JP in the town I live in. Her name was Elizabeth Raspberry.
[01:23:09.320 --> 01:23:12.320]  Everybody called her Plum.
[01:23:12.320 --> 01:23:19.320]  And she was absolutely a sweetheart, one of my favorite human beings on the planet.
[01:23:19.320 --> 01:23:25.320]  I got arrested for driving with a headlight out. That's what started this whole odyssey.
[01:23:25.320 --> 01:23:30.320]  And I demanded that she prosecute.
[01:23:30.320 --> 01:23:33.320]  And she said, no, she wasn't going to prosecute.
[01:23:33.320 --> 01:23:38.320]  You better prosecute. If you don't prosecute, I'm going to file a judicial conduct complaint against you.
[01:23:38.320 --> 01:23:43.320]  She said, Mr. Kelton, you would file a judicial conduct complaint against me?
[01:23:43.320 --> 01:23:48.320]  I said, Plum, you're one of my favorite human beings on earth.
[01:23:48.320 --> 01:23:53.320]  Yes, I will.
[01:23:53.320 --> 01:23:57.320]  Actually, I didn't. She refused to prosecute, and I just couldn't bring myself to.
[01:23:57.320 --> 01:24:00.320]  But it would have been appropriate.
[01:24:00.320 --> 01:24:11.320]  Better, the justice of the peace that took her place is someone else that I respect highly, and he is a good friend.
[01:24:11.320 --> 01:24:21.320]  And I did the same thing to him because I absolutely, I told him that he's the best one for me to do this to.
[01:24:21.320 --> 01:24:27.320]  I filed about 15 criminal complaints against him with the attorney general.
[01:24:27.320 --> 01:24:34.320]  I filed against every justice of the peace in the county, and I went to him and told him I was doing it.
[01:24:34.320 --> 01:24:40.320]  And I said, Mark, would it help if I told you that I prepared your complaints last?
[01:24:40.320 --> 01:24:44.320]  No, Mr. Kelton, that doesn't help.
[01:24:44.320 --> 01:24:50.320]  But I told him, it's best that I file these against you.
[01:24:50.320 --> 01:24:52.320]  He said, well, why me?
[01:24:52.320 --> 01:24:56.320]  Because I like you, and I respect you.
[01:24:56.320 --> 01:25:04.320]  And nobody will say I'm doing this out of meanness or from some lascivious purpose.
[01:25:04.320 --> 01:25:07.320]  I'm doing this to right a civil wrong.
[01:25:07.320 --> 01:25:16.320]  And if I do it to somebody I like, maybe I can actually get someone to look to merits.
[01:25:16.320 --> 01:25:18.320]  So this is about doing our job.
[01:25:18.320 --> 01:25:23.320]  It's not about retribution or payback or any of that kind of stuff.
[01:25:23.320 --> 01:25:29.320]  If they violate the law, it is your duty as the sovereign to hammer them for it.
[01:25:29.320 --> 01:25:32.320]  And the quicker you do it, the better.
[01:25:32.320 --> 01:25:37.320]  The more minor the accusation you claim against them, the better.
[01:25:37.320 --> 01:25:42.320]  The thing is, I don't think she realizes that she's going around the law.
[01:25:42.320 --> 01:25:45.320]  I think she's just going on what the attorney for the state is telling her.
[01:25:45.320 --> 01:25:46.320]  Exactly.
[01:25:46.320 --> 01:25:50.320]  Well, my emotions are frivolous when they're not.
[01:25:50.320 --> 01:25:57.320]  When my grandkids run out into the road, I don't think they realize how dangerous that is.
[01:25:57.320 --> 01:26:03.320]  And when I paddle their behinds, it's not out of anger or avarice.
[01:26:03.320 --> 01:26:06.320]  It's to teach them.
[01:26:06.320 --> 01:26:14.320]  And I think you need to paddle this JP, give her an object lesson.
[01:26:14.320 --> 01:26:16.320]  Okay.
[01:26:16.320 --> 01:26:20.320]  She denied the motion to dismiss based on what the attorney told her,
[01:26:20.320 --> 01:26:23.320]  that the complaint serves as a charging instrument.
[01:26:23.320 --> 01:26:26.320]  And the attorney for the state moved for a jury trial setting,
[01:26:26.320 --> 01:26:29.320]  saying the state has a right to a jury trial.
[01:26:29.320 --> 01:26:31.320]  It does.
[01:26:31.320 --> 01:26:32.320]  Really?
[01:26:32.320 --> 01:26:33.320]  The state has a right?
[01:26:33.320 --> 01:26:34.320]  Yeah.
[01:26:34.320 --> 01:26:36.320]  The state has authorities granted to it by the Constitution,
[01:26:36.320 --> 01:26:38.320]  but where does the state get rights from?
[01:26:38.320 --> 01:26:45.320]  The state has a right as a party in the action.
[01:26:45.320 --> 01:26:48.320]  Both parties in the action have the constitutional right.
[01:26:48.320 --> 01:26:49.320]  Really?
[01:26:49.320 --> 01:26:50.320]  Yeah.
[01:26:50.320 --> 01:26:52.320]  The state in this case is a party.
[01:26:52.320 --> 01:26:57.320]  So in that case, it's been given the right by the Constitution.
[01:26:57.320 --> 01:26:58.320]  Yeah.
[01:26:58.320 --> 01:27:00.320]  Either party can demand a jury trial.
[01:27:00.320 --> 01:27:03.320]  That's good for you because then the state pays for it.
[01:27:03.320 --> 01:27:09.320]  But the problem for the prosecutor is, is if the court lacks jurisdiction for some other cause,
[01:27:09.320 --> 01:27:14.320]  the state has no right because there is no jurisdiction to invoke that right.
[01:27:14.320 --> 01:27:15.320]  Exactly.
[01:27:15.320 --> 01:27:18.320]  Yeah, and they're skipping over the issue of jurisdiction
[01:27:18.320 --> 01:27:23.320]  and going to go to a trial on the merits before a jury.
[01:27:23.320 --> 01:27:31.320]  And you might move for interlocutory appeal in the interest of judicial economy.
[01:27:31.320 --> 01:27:39.320]  I looked that up online and it's one of the, I think, three requirements for that is that
[01:27:39.320 --> 01:27:44.320]  if you're appealing an issue that would be unappealable on final judgment.
[01:27:44.320 --> 01:27:54.320]  Or if you're appealing an issue that a positive ruling in the issue would end the litigation.
[01:27:54.320 --> 01:27:56.320]  Which would be a final judgment.
[01:27:56.320 --> 01:28:01.320]  It would create a harm that could not be corrected.
[01:28:01.320 --> 01:28:05.320]  If there is no subject matter jurisdiction, this is a malicious prosecution.
[01:28:05.320 --> 01:28:12.320]  And it creates a harm against you that can't be undone.
[01:28:12.320 --> 01:28:17.320]  The trauma of having to defend yourself against a criminal accusation
[01:28:17.320 --> 01:28:24.320]  and the slander that will be brought against you in the community can't be undone.
[01:28:24.320 --> 01:28:28.320]  This is proper for interlocutory appeal.
[01:28:28.320 --> 01:28:30.320]  Besides, it would be fun.
[01:28:30.320 --> 01:28:33.320]  So I appeal to the county court?
[01:28:33.320 --> 01:28:35.320]  Yes.
[01:28:35.320 --> 01:28:36.320]  Okay.
[01:28:36.320 --> 01:28:39.320]  Is there a form somewhere that I can get started on that with?
[01:28:39.320 --> 01:28:41.320]  No.
[01:28:41.320 --> 01:28:44.320]  I don't have a form on interlocutory appeal.
[01:28:44.320 --> 01:28:48.320]  I found criminal defense forms in the library,
[01:28:48.320 --> 01:28:53.320]  but I didn't see anything on the interlocutory appeal.
[01:28:53.320 --> 01:28:55.320]  You might just have to research it out.
[01:28:55.320 --> 01:28:58.320]  But if you do research it out, send me the research.
[01:28:58.320 --> 01:29:03.320]  I haven't researched that out in a long, long time.
[01:29:03.320 --> 01:29:04.320]  It saves me my work.
[01:29:04.320 --> 01:29:05.320]  All right.
[01:29:05.320 --> 01:29:06.320]  Okay.
[01:29:06.320 --> 01:29:07.320]  Oh, one last thing.
[01:29:07.320 --> 01:29:10.320]  Is there such thing as a special appearance in a criminal trial?
[01:29:10.320 --> 01:29:12.320]  The attorney of the state said there wasn't.
[01:29:12.320 --> 01:29:15.320]  Of course there is.
[01:29:15.320 --> 01:29:28.320]  A special appearance is for three things, a challenge subject matter jurisdiction,
[01:29:28.320 --> 01:29:38.320]  what is it, deusticum, an inconvenient or improper jurisdiction, and double jeopardy.
[01:29:38.320 --> 01:29:43.320]  Those are the special pleadings, and they apply to criminal as in any other case.
[01:29:43.320 --> 01:29:46.320]  Attorneys don't know squat.
[01:29:46.320 --> 01:29:47.320]  Thank you.
[01:29:47.320 --> 01:29:48.320]  Okay.
[01:29:48.320 --> 01:29:49.320]  Thank you.
[01:29:49.320 --> 01:29:59.320]  We'll be right back on the other side, and we'll take Mark from Wisconsin.
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[01:31:18.320 --> 01:31:21.320]  When you're having a bad day, there's nothing better than a hug from mom.
[01:31:21.320 --> 01:31:24.320]  But what if she's thousands of miles away?
[01:31:24.320 --> 01:31:28.320]  Don't worry, she can still turn a frown into a smile with just the sound of her voice.
[01:31:28.320 --> 01:31:32.320]  Researchers dressed out young girls with math exams and public speaking assignments.
[01:31:32.320 --> 01:31:36.320]  As expected, their level of cortisol, the stress hormone, shot through the roof.
[01:31:36.320 --> 01:31:40.320]  Then their moms consoled the girls with either a personal hug or a phone chat.
[01:31:40.320 --> 01:31:43.320]  Amazingly, the phone worked just as well.
[01:31:43.320 --> 01:31:49.320]  Mom's voice alone was enough to flood the girls with oxytocin, the feel-good comfort hormone.
[01:31:49.320 --> 01:31:52.320]  I'm Dr. Katherine Albrecht, and I think I'll give my mom a call.
[01:31:52.320 --> 01:32:02.320]  More news and information at KatherineAlbrecht.com.
[01:32:22.320 --> 01:32:32.320]  Thank you for watching.
[01:32:52.320 --> 01:32:57.320]  Hi, folks.
[01:32:57.320 --> 01:32:59.320]  This is Rule of Law Radio.
[01:32:59.320 --> 01:33:02.320]  Eddie Craig, Debra Stevens, Randy Kelton.
[01:33:02.320 --> 01:33:05.320]  We've got two segments left, a half an hour.
[01:33:05.320 --> 01:33:11.320]  If you're out there listening, please feel free to give us a call, 512-646-1984.
[01:33:11.320 --> 01:33:13.320]  And we'll get back to Randy here.
[01:33:13.320 --> 01:33:16.320]  He was having a comment on the way out.
[01:33:16.320 --> 01:33:18.320]  Okay, we were done.
[01:33:18.320 --> 01:33:21.320]  We were going to go to Mark from Wisconsin.
[01:33:21.320 --> 01:33:23.320]  He's always got some trouble.
[01:33:23.320 --> 01:33:24.320]  He's starting.
[01:33:24.320 --> 01:33:27.320]  Mark, what are you into this week?
[01:33:27.320 --> 01:33:30.320]  Actually, this is Boom Boom from Vietnam.
[01:33:30.320 --> 01:33:33.320]  Boom Boom from Vietnam.
[01:33:33.320 --> 01:33:34.320]  Yes.
[01:33:34.320 --> 01:33:36.320]  Hey, Randy.
[01:33:36.320 --> 01:33:41.320]  Yeah, you are somewhat, if I remember my Vietnamese, ba-bob-able.
[01:33:41.320 --> 01:33:45.320]  At least you're crazy.
[01:33:45.320 --> 01:33:49.320]  Hey, have you noticed how educated your collars are now?
[01:33:49.320 --> 01:33:51.320]  Yes, I have.
[01:33:51.320 --> 01:33:56.320]  I had Rick Schramm on the show one time.
[01:33:56.320 --> 01:34:00.320]  And after the show was over, he had his own show for 20 years.
[01:34:00.320 --> 01:34:05.320]  He said, where did you get those collars?
[01:34:05.320 --> 01:34:07.320]  And I asked him, what do you mean?
[01:34:07.320 --> 01:34:11.320]  They ask such good questions.
[01:34:11.320 --> 01:34:16.320]  So, yes, I am very pleased with my audience.
[01:34:16.320 --> 01:34:20.320]  You know, if I was looking at a 10-year criminal sentence, Randy,
[01:34:20.320 --> 01:34:24.320]  I would trust 50% of the callers that called in tonight
[01:34:24.320 --> 01:34:28.320]  over just about any attorney in the area.
[01:34:28.320 --> 01:34:30.320]  I think I would, too.
[01:34:30.320 --> 01:34:33.320]  The guy was talking about heroes earlier.
[01:34:33.320 --> 01:34:35.320]  You know, this is what we do all the time.
[01:34:35.320 --> 01:34:41.320]  But consider, people listening to this show could be watching TV,
[01:34:41.320 --> 01:34:44.320]  watching a football game or a movie.
[01:34:44.320 --> 01:34:46.320]  But they're not.
[01:34:46.320 --> 01:34:48.320]  They shut off all of that,
[01:34:48.320 --> 01:34:54.320]  and they sit and listen to a radio to hear people talk about legal issues.
[01:34:54.320 --> 01:34:56.320]  What's with that?
[01:34:56.320 --> 01:34:59.320]  That takes a lot of dedication.
[01:34:59.320 --> 01:35:07.320]  And you folks got to know, I really appreciate you folks.
[01:35:07.320 --> 01:35:10.320]  Sometimes what we're doing is really difficult.
[01:35:10.320 --> 01:35:14.320]  Mark, I'm sure you're well aware of that.
[01:35:14.320 --> 01:35:17.320]  Do you remember when I started out,
[01:35:17.320 --> 01:35:20.320]  you told me how to go after this attorney,
[01:35:20.320 --> 01:35:24.320]  this prosecutor, a judge and policeman,
[01:35:24.320 --> 01:35:27.320]  and they yelled case dismissed and ran out of the courtroom.
[01:35:27.320 --> 01:35:28.320]  Remember that?
[01:35:28.320 --> 01:35:31.320]  Yes, I do.
[01:35:31.320 --> 01:35:35.320]  The judge didn't even sit down.
[01:35:35.320 --> 01:35:39.320]  Well, this is, you know, it won't take everybody to do this.
[01:35:39.320 --> 01:35:41.320]  We can get just get a few,
[01:35:41.320 --> 01:35:45.320]  we can get two or three people in every county hammering these guys.
[01:35:45.320 --> 01:35:48.320]  We'll start making some changes.
[01:35:48.320 --> 01:35:51.320]  I'm not going to make the changes.
[01:35:51.320 --> 01:35:52.320]  You're going to do it.
[01:35:52.320 --> 01:35:53.320]  Go ahead.
[01:35:53.320 --> 01:35:56.320]  That Mike guy, man, you guys really got to support that guy down there,
[01:35:56.320 --> 01:35:59.320]  because it's going to start raining crap on him pretty soon.
[01:35:59.320 --> 01:36:01.320]  Oh, I don't think so.
[01:36:01.320 --> 01:36:05.320]  They've already rained all the crap on him.
[01:36:05.320 --> 01:36:10.320]  And when they got done, he was right there, right in the middle of them.
[01:36:10.320 --> 01:36:11.320]  They'll stand in there.
[01:36:11.320 --> 01:36:16.320]  They're clearly beginning to realize that this guy is not going away.
[01:36:16.320 --> 01:36:19.320]  He's not going to be frightened or intimidated.
[01:36:19.320 --> 01:36:22.320]  He's going to kick your behinds.
[01:36:22.320 --> 01:36:25.320]  And it's always the case.
[01:36:25.320 --> 01:36:29.320]  About the time you think this is never going to get anywhere,
[01:36:29.320 --> 01:36:32.320]  they'll lay down and roll over.
[01:36:32.320 --> 01:36:37.320]  They've pulled out all the stops on him, and he is all over them.
[01:36:37.320 --> 01:36:47.320]  You got to know, this guy he talked to, this captain, is not a happy camper.
[01:36:47.320 --> 01:36:52.320]  This is an experience he will remember throughout his career.
[01:36:52.320 --> 01:36:55.320]  Yeah, he stuck his face in a boo-boo and came up with a frown.
[01:36:55.320 --> 01:37:00.320]  Yes, I bet he's never been through a workout like that.
[01:37:00.320 --> 01:37:07.320]  But then to his credit, he fully understood the importance of what was happening.
[01:37:07.320 --> 01:37:16.320]  They did something stupid and careless, and they got the wrong guy.
[01:37:16.320 --> 01:37:21.320]  He called them on it, and now he's standing on this guy's throat.
[01:37:21.320 --> 01:37:24.320]  The guy understands what he's doing.
[01:37:24.320 --> 01:37:27.320]  Both of them understood exactly what was going on,
[01:37:27.320 --> 01:37:30.320]  and I had to give the policeman credit.
[01:37:30.320 --> 01:37:34.320]  He was smart enough to keep his cool,
[01:37:34.320 --> 01:37:41.320]  and he tried to revert back to his macho cop routine,
[01:37:41.320 --> 01:37:47.320]  but clearly it wasn't working with this guy, and he was smart enough not to continue.
[01:37:47.320 --> 01:37:48.320]  I like that.
[01:37:48.320 --> 01:37:50.320]  He was smart enough to keep his cool,
[01:37:50.320 --> 01:37:54.320]  but he wasn't smart enough to realize it was a stupid mistake to begin with.
[01:37:54.320 --> 01:37:57.320]  No, he was stuck.
[01:37:57.320 --> 01:38:02.320]  He probably does this a lot to people and doesn't get the repercussion,
[01:38:02.320 --> 01:38:08.320]  and I suspect this is the first time that he's had somebody who handled him this well,
[01:38:08.320 --> 01:38:10.320]  and he knew this was trouble.
[01:38:10.320 --> 01:38:17.320]  I think this cop was sitting there watching his career flash before his eyes
[01:38:17.320 --> 01:38:20.320]  and doing everything he could to save it.
[01:38:20.320 --> 01:38:26.320]  If he doesn't shield his boss, his career is over anyway,
[01:38:26.320 --> 01:38:29.320]  so this guy was in a really bad spot,
[01:38:29.320 --> 01:38:32.320]  and I have no doubt he didn't put himself in that spot.
[01:38:32.320 --> 01:38:34.320]  Somebody else put him in that spot,
[01:38:34.320 --> 01:38:39.320]  so you've got to know he is not happy with these people,
[01:38:39.320 --> 01:38:46.320]  and this is when it begins to turn around to get into this crabs in a bucket.
[01:38:46.320 --> 01:38:48.320]  He's likely to go to his boss and say,
[01:38:48.320 --> 01:38:50.320]  you guys need to do something.
[01:38:50.320 --> 01:38:51.320]  You got me into this.
[01:38:51.320 --> 01:38:53.320]  You need to get me out.
[01:38:53.320 --> 01:38:56.320]  It goes back to the thin blue line.
[01:38:56.320 --> 01:38:59.320]  He did his job and protected them.
[01:38:59.320 --> 01:39:04.320]  Now they owe it to him to do the same.
[01:39:04.320 --> 01:39:11.320]  So that was really a great interaction there.
[01:39:11.320 --> 01:39:14.320]  We can all learn from that.
[01:39:14.320 --> 01:39:18.320]  Hey, I just got another settlement in federal court.
[01:39:18.320 --> 01:39:21.320]  Oh, wonderful.
[01:39:21.320 --> 01:39:24.320]  So thanks for that.
[01:39:24.320 --> 01:39:26.320]  So how much did you come away with?
[01:39:26.320 --> 01:39:28.320]  Did you come away with enough to buy Christmas?
[01:39:28.320 --> 01:39:30.320]  Oh, man.
[01:39:30.320 --> 01:39:32.320]  Hey, check this out, Randy.
[01:39:32.320 --> 01:39:34.320]  I can't talk about the settlement,
[01:39:34.320 --> 01:39:42.320]  but I got a suggestion for some people out there who are litigating FDCPA cases.
[01:39:42.320 --> 01:39:44.320]  Fair Debt Collection Procedures Act.
[01:39:44.320 --> 01:39:45.320]  Right.
[01:39:45.320 --> 01:39:51.320]  What you should do is stack up five, 10 violations, hold back half of them,
[01:39:51.320 --> 01:39:55.320]  go to court on the first half, and then when it comes down to the settlement,
[01:39:55.320 --> 01:39:58.320]  you say, hey, I want an extra $1,000,
[01:39:58.320 --> 01:40:03.320]  or I'm going to litigate these other five cases right here,
[01:40:03.320 --> 01:40:05.320]  and I may decide to do them one at a time.
[01:40:05.320 --> 01:40:11.320]  What do you want to do?
[01:40:11.320 --> 01:40:16.320]  I think we've created a couple of monsters here.
[01:40:16.320 --> 01:40:22.320]  Yeah, but at least they're on our side this time.
[01:40:22.320 --> 01:40:25.320]  That is wonderful.
[01:40:25.320 --> 01:40:28.320]  Yeah, yeah, because you know it comes down to money,
[01:40:28.320 --> 01:40:34.320]  and you know an FDCPA violation is only worth $1,000,
[01:40:34.320 --> 01:40:40.320]  but if you threaten to litigate them one at a time, oh, my God,
[01:40:40.320 --> 01:40:46.320]  you should see their wigs come off.
[01:40:46.320 --> 01:40:49.320]  They know you know their weakness.
[01:40:49.320 --> 01:40:54.320]  Yeah, and they know you're serious, too, because you're already in there.
[01:40:54.320 --> 01:40:56.320]  So that is great.
[01:40:56.320 --> 01:40:57.320]  Okay, we've got two more callers.
[01:40:57.320 --> 01:40:59.320]  Do you have any more comments?
[01:40:59.320 --> 01:41:00.320]  That's it.
[01:41:00.320 --> 01:41:01.320]  Keep up the good work.
[01:41:01.320 --> 01:41:02.320]  Great job, Mark.
[01:41:02.320 --> 01:41:06.320]  Bye-bye.
[01:41:06.320 --> 01:41:13.320]  Okay, now we're going to go to Don from Oklahoma.
[01:41:13.320 --> 01:41:14.320]  Don, are you there?
[01:41:14.320 --> 01:41:15.320]  Yes, sir.
[01:41:15.320 --> 01:41:16.320]  Can you hear me?
[01:41:16.320 --> 01:41:17.320]  Yes, I can hear you now.
[01:41:17.320 --> 01:41:18.320]  Okay.
[01:41:18.320 --> 01:41:21.320]  Well, I appreciate everything you guys do.
[01:41:21.320 --> 01:41:23.320]  Like I say, I'm kind of new to it,
[01:41:23.320 --> 01:41:26.320]  but it's like I have a new addiction listening to the show.
[01:41:26.320 --> 01:41:31.320]  What I do, I downloaded some of your MPP-3 files.
[01:41:31.320 --> 01:41:35.320]  It was August the 19th and October the 15th on your mortgage that you did.
[01:41:35.320 --> 01:41:39.320]  I've been listening to it over and over because I've been gone a lot.
[01:41:39.320 --> 01:41:44.320]  But what I've done is, first of all, on my house, I'm not in foreclosure.
[01:41:44.320 --> 01:41:47.320]  I'm current on my payments, and everything's fine.
[01:41:47.320 --> 01:41:51.320]  But I went through stuff like you said, and I have multiple.
[01:41:51.320 --> 01:41:54.320]  The company that I was dealing with at the time was FFA Mortgage,
[01:41:54.320 --> 01:41:58.320]  which was a broker, and they don't exist anymore.
[01:41:58.320 --> 01:42:03.320]  There was multiple fees paid to them, a couple of fees paid to the other,
[01:42:03.320 --> 01:42:07.320]  my actual mortgage company that I could send the payments to,
[01:42:07.320 --> 01:42:11.320]  and there was mirrors in the loop.
[01:42:11.320 --> 01:42:16.320]  So I guess basically my question is, since I'm not in trouble with foreclosure
[01:42:16.320 --> 01:42:20.320]  or anything, if I go through a process, what would my goal be to shoot for?
[01:42:20.320 --> 01:42:24.320]  Well, modifications, certainly.
[01:42:24.320 --> 01:42:28.320]  Generally, when we have folks file that aren't behind,
[01:42:28.320 --> 01:42:33.320]  that's the first thing they get is a very quick offer to modify.
[01:42:33.320 --> 01:42:42.320]  But if you've got mirrors in the mix, you have no idea if you're paying off your mortgage or not.
[01:42:42.320 --> 01:42:46.320]  You could be just pouring money down a rabbit hole.
[01:42:46.320 --> 01:42:49.320]  Yeah, that's the reason I'm pursuing this.
[01:42:49.320 --> 01:42:57.320]  So you get to go in and say, come on, guys, prove it up, show me who you are.
[01:42:57.320 --> 01:43:02.320]  Otherwise, if you can't prove who you are and prove that you have a claim,
[01:43:02.320 --> 01:43:07.320]  whoever has the proper claim, please stand up.
[01:43:07.320 --> 01:43:13.320]  If nobody stands up, I want quiet title.
[01:43:13.320 --> 01:43:16.320]  Okay, since it was a refi, it doesn't matter.
[01:43:16.320 --> 01:43:18.320]  I bought it in 1993.
[01:43:18.320 --> 01:43:20.320]  So the fact that I did a refi, does that make?
[01:43:20.320 --> 01:43:22.320]  No, it makes no difference.
[01:43:22.320 --> 01:43:23.320]  Okay.
[01:43:23.320 --> 01:43:29.320]  So the refi, that's the one they sold, and that's if they went through MERS,
[01:43:29.320 --> 01:43:31.320]  they've lost the security instrument.
[01:43:31.320 --> 01:43:34.320]  They've lost the chain of title.
[01:43:34.320 --> 01:43:41.320]  They're going to have no way of proving up who they are and who has the right to collect.
[01:43:41.320 --> 01:43:44.320]  You know, you go in saying, I know somebody.
[01:43:44.320 --> 01:43:46.320]  I just want to make sure I pay the right one.
[01:43:46.320 --> 01:43:47.320]  Okay, we're about to go to break.
[01:43:47.320 --> 01:43:49.320]  We'll pick this up on the other side.
[01:43:49.320 --> 01:43:51.320]  We've got one more caller and one more segment.
[01:43:51.320 --> 01:43:53.320]  Randy Kelton, Debbie Stevens, Eddie Craig.
[01:43:53.320 --> 01:44:00.320]  We'll be right back.
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[01:46:39.320 --> 01:46:43.320]  We're Andrew Calkin, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig, Rule of Law Radio.
[01:46:43.320 --> 01:46:46.320]  We're going into our last segment.
[01:46:46.320 --> 01:46:52.320]  Okay, Don, since you're up to date, you're in the best position.
[01:46:52.320 --> 01:46:58.320]  And since you have MERS on your note, you're in an even better position.
[01:46:58.320 --> 01:47:04.320]  We had a San Diego court render a ruling that essentially made anyone
[01:47:04.320 --> 01:47:09.320]  with MERS on their note unforeclosable.
[01:47:09.320 --> 01:47:21.320]  And if you go in and demand to be that the claimant, whoever is claiming the note,
[01:47:21.320 --> 01:47:29.320]  whoever makes a claim for payment under 3-501, when you request production
[01:47:29.320 --> 01:47:33.320]  of the original note, they have to present it.
[01:47:33.320 --> 01:47:40.320]  And what I suggest you do is we prepare the qualified written request and tort letter.
[01:47:40.320 --> 01:47:43.320]  We get that into them first.
[01:47:43.320 --> 01:47:48.320]  And in the tort letter, you tell them that you've been harmed.
[01:47:48.320 --> 01:47:51.320]  Make me whole or be sued.
[01:47:51.320 --> 01:47:53.320]  And give them a certain number of days.
[01:47:53.320 --> 01:48:00.320]  And on that last day or on the day after the last day, file.
[01:48:00.320 --> 01:48:03.320]  And that lets them know you're not screwing around.
[01:48:03.320 --> 01:48:05.320]  You're coming after them.
[01:48:05.320 --> 01:48:09.320]  And almost no doubt, first thing you'll get is an offer to modify
[01:48:09.320 --> 01:48:12.320]  and a substantial offer to modify.
[01:48:12.320 --> 01:48:19.320]  Then you have to decide whether you want to accept that or negotiate.
[01:48:19.320 --> 01:48:22.320]  But do it all, do this pro se or do any of the lawyer?
[01:48:22.320 --> 01:48:24.320]  Oh, this pro se so far.
[01:48:24.320 --> 01:48:25.320]  Okay.
[01:48:25.320 --> 01:48:28.320]  Initially getting into court, pro se is not too difficult.
[01:48:28.320 --> 01:48:31.320]  They're going to file a motion, the Rule 12 motion,
[01:48:31.320 --> 01:48:33.320]  and we've been reworking the documentation
[01:48:33.320 --> 01:48:39.320]  and increasing the sophistication dramatically to stop these Rule 12 motions.
[01:48:39.320 --> 01:48:41.320]  They'll file them anyway, but they'll start losing them
[01:48:41.320 --> 01:48:48.320]  because we'll almost have the case completely adjudicated in the filing.
[01:48:48.320 --> 01:48:56.320]  So there's not much more they can ask for than what we'll have in the pleadings.
[01:48:56.320 --> 01:49:00.320]  And once you get in, if they don't answer,
[01:49:00.320 --> 01:49:11.320]  which the first person who filed who wasn't behind, they didn't answer.
[01:49:11.320 --> 01:49:15.320]  The seven days after he filed, they sent him an offer to modify
[01:49:15.320 --> 01:49:20.320]  from 6.5% interest to two.
[01:49:20.320 --> 01:49:23.320]  He asked me, what should I do?
[01:49:23.320 --> 01:49:28.320]  Pretend like you didn't get that until the 21 days have passed.
[01:49:28.320 --> 01:49:32.320]  Don't do anything until you get an answer.
[01:49:32.320 --> 01:49:39.320]  He waited, he didn't get an answer, so he went after them for no answer default.
[01:49:39.320 --> 01:49:43.320]  So the first thing you'll get is an offer to modify
[01:49:43.320 --> 01:49:48.320]  because like Mark said, it's all about the money.
[01:49:48.320 --> 01:49:53.320]  And here's the one that's up to date, and they have no claim.
[01:49:53.320 --> 01:49:55.320]  They're not going to get to foreclose.
[01:49:55.320 --> 01:49:59.320]  They're not going to get to do anything where they can draw a profit.
[01:49:59.320 --> 01:50:02.320]  This is going to be loss from top to bottom.
[01:50:02.320 --> 01:50:07.320]  So they have to determine how much loss they're willing to deal with
[01:50:07.320 --> 01:50:09.320]  and what they can do to mitigate it.
[01:50:09.320 --> 01:50:15.320]  And almost certainly they'll come up with an offer to modify very quickly.
[01:50:15.320 --> 01:50:21.320]  Well, they don't have much to lose on CDRM, about six years in to 15 fixed,
[01:50:21.320 --> 01:50:24.320]  and I got it at four and three quarters.
[01:50:24.320 --> 01:50:28.320]  So there's only 70K left on the loan.
[01:50:28.320 --> 01:50:32.320]  They may write the whole thing off rather than fight it.
[01:50:32.320 --> 01:50:36.320]  Yeah, that's way less than half the value of the house.
[01:50:36.320 --> 01:50:42.320]  So that could, like you said, they don't have that much to lose on this deal.
[01:50:42.320 --> 01:50:47.320]  We have one here where he's waiting for an offer,
[01:50:47.320 --> 01:50:52.320]  where they only had like 20 grand to lose.
[01:50:52.320 --> 01:50:56.320]  So he said, you know, it's going to cost you more than that to fight me.
[01:50:56.320 --> 01:50:58.320]  And I've sued you for almost a million dollars,
[01:50:58.320 --> 01:51:02.320]  and when I get you in court, the jury's going to be so PO'd at you,
[01:51:02.320 --> 01:51:04.320]  they're likely to give me the whole thing.
[01:51:04.320 --> 01:51:09.320]  And the attorney actually said to him, well, you could be right about that.
[01:51:09.320 --> 01:51:14.320]  The attorney actually spoke his mind.
[01:51:14.320 --> 01:51:17.320]  So what kind of damages, if you wanted to really go to the end of it,
[01:51:17.320 --> 01:51:20.320]  what kind of damages and value would you put on that?
[01:51:20.320 --> 01:51:21.320]  Oh, it would depend.
[01:51:21.320 --> 01:51:22.320]  We'll run the numbers.
[01:51:22.320 --> 01:51:29.320]  I'll come up with a specific amount of fraud based on the variance
[01:51:29.320 --> 01:51:33.320]  between the truth and lending statement and the note, if there is one.
[01:51:33.320 --> 01:51:36.320]  About 25 percent of the time there's not.
[01:51:36.320 --> 01:51:44.320]  And then we'll take all of the HUD-1 fees and deduct them from the note
[01:51:44.320 --> 01:51:46.320]  and then run the note without that fee on it.
[01:51:46.320 --> 01:51:47.320]  And that gets us a pretty good number.
[01:51:47.320 --> 01:51:53.320]  And then we run the respitee, the violations.
[01:51:53.320 --> 01:51:54.320]  We come up with a pretty good number.
[01:51:54.320 --> 01:51:57.320]  If you've got on the average $300,000 note,
[01:51:57.320 --> 01:52:02.320]  we'll find you 1 to 1.2 mil claim against the lender.
[01:52:02.320 --> 01:52:06.320]  Enough to get their attention.
[01:52:06.320 --> 01:52:07.320]  Okay.
[01:52:07.320 --> 01:52:09.320]  You have multiple websites.
[01:52:09.320 --> 01:52:10.320]  Which one should I go to?
[01:52:10.320 --> 01:52:14.320]  Go to remediesinrealestate.com.
[01:52:14.320 --> 01:52:17.320]  Okay.
[01:52:17.320 --> 01:52:20.320]  And just you can email me, Randy, at remediesinrealestate,
[01:52:20.320 --> 01:52:23.320]  and we'll have somebody get back to you.
[01:52:23.320 --> 01:52:24.320]  Okay.
[01:52:24.320 --> 01:52:25.320]  I'll do that.
[01:52:25.320 --> 01:52:26.320]  Okay.
[01:52:26.320 --> 01:52:27.320]  I appreciate all your help.
[01:52:27.320 --> 01:52:28.320]  Thanks a lot.
[01:52:28.320 --> 01:52:34.320]  Okay, now we're going to go to Robin in Florida.
[01:52:34.320 --> 01:52:35.320]  Hello, Robin.
[01:52:35.320 --> 01:52:36.320]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:52:36.320 --> 01:52:37.320]  Hey, Randy.
[01:52:37.320 --> 01:52:38.320]  How are you doing?
[01:52:38.320 --> 01:52:39.320]  Okay.
[01:52:39.320 --> 01:52:41.320]  We need to go quickly because we've got Dan from Connecticut
[01:52:41.320 --> 01:52:43.320]  that says he has an announcement.
[01:52:43.320 --> 01:52:44.320]  Okay.
[01:52:44.320 --> 01:52:45.320]  Quick.
[01:52:45.320 --> 01:52:50.320]  I got a notice for case management in my foreclosure case.
[01:52:50.320 --> 01:52:54.320]  Is that just like an administrative type of thing?
[01:52:54.320 --> 01:52:59.320]  It's strictly administrative, it's not adversarial.
[01:52:59.320 --> 01:53:02.320]  Did you run a suit with us?
[01:53:02.320 --> 01:53:03.320]  No.
[01:53:03.320 --> 01:53:04.320]  Okay.
[01:53:04.320 --> 01:53:08.320]  Then go to, oh, Chris is running the board tonight.
[01:53:08.320 --> 01:53:09.320]  His screening policy can tell me.
[01:53:09.320 --> 01:53:12.320]  I think it's 26, Chapter 26.
[01:53:12.320 --> 01:53:15.320]  Look in the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.
[01:53:15.320 --> 01:53:17.320]  Just look up case management.
[01:53:17.320 --> 01:53:18.320]  Okay.
[01:53:18.320 --> 01:53:19.320]  It'll pretty well tell you.
[01:53:19.320 --> 01:53:27.320]  You tell them how long you think Discovery is going to take.
[01:53:27.320 --> 01:53:29.320]  It's been like two years already.
[01:53:29.320 --> 01:53:30.320]  Only macro.
[01:53:30.320 --> 01:53:33.320]  That's taken them a long time.
[01:53:33.320 --> 01:53:34.320]  Wonderful.
[01:53:34.320 --> 01:53:37.320]  I'm cutting them off with all my motions.
[01:53:37.320 --> 01:53:41.320]  The real question I have is they're trying to substitute party planning
[01:53:41.320 --> 01:53:46.320]  and put in Deutsche Bank who's the investor or trustee.
[01:53:46.320 --> 01:53:50.320]  It's Indy Mac was the servicer.
[01:53:50.320 --> 01:53:54.320]  What was the claim you made against the lender?
[01:53:54.320 --> 01:53:55.320]  No.
[01:53:55.320 --> 01:53:58.320]  They're suing me.
[01:53:58.320 --> 01:54:00.320]  On the local court.
[01:54:00.320 --> 01:54:02.320]  Have you counterclaimed?
[01:54:02.320 --> 01:54:03.320]  Yes.
[01:54:03.320 --> 01:54:04.320]  It was dismissed.
[01:54:04.320 --> 01:54:06.320]  I didn't know what the heck I was doing at the time.
[01:54:06.320 --> 01:54:08.320]  This is the same thing I told you about this judge.
[01:54:08.320 --> 01:54:13.320]  I got a file, a judicial comment complaint committed by felonies, all that stuff.
[01:54:13.320 --> 01:54:14.320]  Okay.
[01:54:14.320 --> 01:54:19.320]  You might want to look at filing on the fraud in the federal court.
[01:54:19.320 --> 01:54:20.320]  Yes.
[01:54:20.320 --> 01:54:24.320]  Then move to combine the cases.
[01:54:24.320 --> 01:54:25.320]  Okay.
[01:54:25.320 --> 01:54:28.320]  I don't want to do that.
[01:54:28.320 --> 01:54:37.320]  As far as substituting party planning, is that like a new complaint within the complaint
[01:54:37.320 --> 01:54:41.320]  where they need an affidavit from that trustee?
[01:54:41.320 --> 01:54:44.320]  You have to look at why they're doing that.
[01:54:44.320 --> 01:54:53.320]  If the party that originally took the action didn't have standing, they can't substitute.
[01:54:53.320 --> 01:54:56.320]  The whole suit is out of here.
[01:54:56.320 --> 01:55:01.320]  I put in a motion to dismiss initially because of that.
[01:55:01.320 --> 01:55:03.320]  There's mirrors involved.
[01:55:03.320 --> 01:55:10.320]  They assigned the mortgage right before or actually after the complaint, the whole mess.
[01:55:10.320 --> 01:55:11.320]  Okay.
[01:55:11.320 --> 01:55:15.320]  If they don't go for that, you ought to file in the federal court because we're getting
[01:55:15.320 --> 01:55:17.320]  better rulings now.
[01:55:17.320 --> 01:55:18.320]  Okay.
[01:55:18.320 --> 01:55:22.320]  Sky's falling in on the lenders.
[01:55:22.320 --> 01:55:27.320]  If it's been two years, they're probably going to start moving toward close out the case,
[01:55:27.320 --> 01:55:32.320]  so you might want to file in the Fed to crank it all back up again because time is against
[01:55:32.320 --> 01:55:35.320]  the lender right now.
[01:55:35.320 --> 01:55:36.320]  Yeah.
[01:55:36.320 --> 01:55:42.320]  Just I got the idea from Mark in Wisconsin about that grand jury email.
[01:55:42.320 --> 01:55:43.320]  Oh.
[01:55:43.320 --> 01:55:45.320]  I made up my own.
[01:55:45.320 --> 01:55:48.320]  I have grandjury911.
[01:55:48.320 --> 01:55:50.320]  That's great.
[01:55:50.320 --> 01:55:54.320]  I figured if I have any correspondence with any attorneys in a local court, I'm going
[01:55:54.320 --> 01:55:59.320]  to make up bargrievance.aol.com or something like that.
[01:55:59.320 --> 01:56:00.320]  Okay.
[01:56:00.320 --> 01:56:05.320]  You can't get bargrievance.net.
[01:56:05.320 --> 01:56:06.320]  I got that one.
[01:56:06.320 --> 01:56:07.320]  I love it, Mark.
[01:56:07.320 --> 01:56:12.320]  The guy in Wisconsin, I'm getting motivation from him.
[01:56:12.320 --> 01:56:13.320]  Anyway, that's it.
[01:56:13.320 --> 01:56:16.320]  I'll let you get to the last guy here.
[01:56:16.320 --> 01:56:17.320]  Okay.
[01:56:17.320 --> 01:56:18.320]  Thank you.
[01:56:18.320 --> 01:56:19.320]  Okay.
[01:56:19.320 --> 01:56:23.320]  Dan, you have an announcement.
[01:56:23.320 --> 01:56:24.320]  Yes.
[01:56:24.320 --> 01:56:30.320]  The crash course on the court part two will be held tomorrow morning at 1030 a.m. at Otis
[01:56:30.320 --> 01:56:36.320]  Public Library in Norwich, Connecticut, and the local paper even ran a story on it.
[01:56:36.320 --> 01:56:37.320]  Interesting.
[01:56:37.320 --> 01:56:38.320]  Yeah.
[01:56:38.320 --> 01:56:39.320]  Very interesting.
[01:56:39.320 --> 01:56:44.320]  This idea of learning about the courts has become immensely popular.
[01:56:44.320 --> 01:56:45.320]  Lord knows why.
[01:56:45.320 --> 01:56:48.320]  I have no idea why.
[01:56:48.320 --> 01:56:50.320]  Why would anybody care about that?
[01:56:50.320 --> 01:56:55.320]  It could be all the rogue public officials, the mortgage fraud, the whole nine yards.
[01:56:55.320 --> 01:57:00.320]  But I also wanted to let you know that file on the administrative hearing is too big.
[01:57:00.320 --> 01:57:01.320]  It's 15 meg.
[01:57:01.320 --> 01:57:04.320]  I need to make it smaller so I can send it to you.
[01:57:04.320 --> 01:57:05.320]  Zip what?
[01:57:05.320 --> 01:57:06.320]  Zip.
[01:57:06.320 --> 01:57:07.320]  Zip?
[01:57:07.320 --> 01:57:08.320]  Yeah.
[01:57:08.320 --> 01:57:09.320]  Can you zip it?
[01:57:09.320 --> 01:57:12.320]  It doesn't get much smaller when I zip it.
[01:57:12.320 --> 01:57:15.320]  Then you might need to break it up.
[01:57:15.320 --> 01:57:18.320]  Yeah, because it is immensely entertaining.
[01:57:18.320 --> 01:57:23.320]  There's a whole seven minutes of them trying to get me to waive my right to counsel.
[01:57:23.320 --> 01:57:27.320]  Eddie, how best could he get us a...
[01:57:27.320 --> 01:57:30.320]  Skype's the easiest way if he's using it.
[01:57:30.320 --> 01:57:31.320]  Oh, yeah.
[01:57:31.320 --> 01:57:34.320]  I could probably transfer that through Skype, I think.
[01:57:34.320 --> 01:57:35.320]  Yeah.
[01:57:35.320 --> 01:57:36.320]  Oh, yeah.
[01:57:36.320 --> 01:57:40.320]  I've transferred gigabytes through Skype, so that's not a problem.
[01:57:40.320 --> 01:57:41.320]  Yeah.
[01:57:41.320 --> 01:57:44.320]  I'll just look for rule of law radio on Skype.
[01:57:44.320 --> 01:57:45.320]  Yeah.
[01:57:45.320 --> 01:57:48.320]  No, look for rule...
[01:57:48.320 --> 01:57:52.320]  Yeah, I think mine is rule of law radio.
[01:57:52.320 --> 01:57:53.320]  Okay, yeah.
[01:57:53.320 --> 01:57:57.320]  I'll do that, and I'll let you guys get on with the show.
[01:57:57.320 --> 01:57:58.320]  Okay.
[01:57:58.320 --> 01:57:59.320]  Get on with the show.
[01:57:59.320 --> 01:58:01.320]  We only got a minute left.
[01:58:01.320 --> 01:58:02.320]  Well, exactly.
[01:58:02.320 --> 01:58:05.320]  There's show left.
[01:58:05.320 --> 01:58:09.320]  Well, this has been an extraordinary show.
[01:58:09.320 --> 01:58:21.320]  And I want to end the show by expressing my appreciation to Mike for his surprising performance on that tape.
[01:58:21.320 --> 01:58:23.320]  You did good.
[01:58:23.320 --> 01:58:24.320]  Yep.
[01:58:24.320 --> 01:58:29.320]  And I would like to express thanks to all of you folks that listened to us and take a lesson from what Mike did.
[01:58:29.320 --> 01:58:31.320]  You are not powerless.
[01:58:31.320 --> 01:58:33.320]  We are not heroes.
[01:58:33.320 --> 01:58:35.320]  We're just willing to not take it anymore.
[01:58:35.320 --> 01:58:36.320]  Be that way.
[01:58:36.320 --> 01:58:37.320]  Eddie...
[01:58:37.320 --> 01:58:38.320]  That's how we all need to be.
[01:58:38.320 --> 01:58:40.320]  Eddie Childs, ex-mayor of Fort Worth.
[01:58:40.320 --> 01:58:43.320]  I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore.
[01:58:43.320 --> 01:58:47.320]  This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig.
[01:58:47.320 --> 01:58:52.320]  Wheel of Law Radio will be back Monday with Eddie on the traffic night.
[01:58:52.320 --> 01:58:54.320]  Thank you for listening.
[01:58:54.320 --> 01:58:55.320]  Good night.
[01:58:55.320 --> 01:58:56.320]  Yep.
[01:58:56.320 --> 01:59:18.320]  We'll see you again, folks.
[01:59:18.320 --> 01:59:40.320]  Thank you.
[01:59:40.320 --> 01:59:58.320]  Thank you.