[00:00.000 --> 00:08.300]  A task force commissioned by the Council on Foreign Relations called for Barack Obama
[00:08.300 --> 00:10.980]  to scale back the Afghan war Friday.
[00:10.980 --> 00:15.820]  The influential think tank urged Obama to stay with his initial drawdown deadline of
[00:15.820 --> 00:20.780]  July 2011, which earlier this week was extended to 2014.
[00:20.780 --> 00:25.540]  The think tank cited the slim likelihood of a U.S. victory and the burden of the war
[00:25.540 --> 00:29.380]  on the country's weak economy.
[00:29.380 --> 00:34.780]  As the world's leading anti-piracy experts met in London Friday, Somali pirates seized
[00:34.780 --> 00:38.120]  a chemical tanker in waters close to India.
[00:38.120 --> 00:43.240]  The International Maritime Bureau said a strong foreign naval presence has led pirates to
[00:43.240 --> 00:46.260]  move further away from Somalia's coast.
[00:46.260 --> 00:51.640]  Earlier this month, Somali pirates received $12 million for the release of two ships.
[00:51.640 --> 00:58.180]  Ship hijackings hit a five-year high in the first nine months of 2010.
[00:58.180 --> 01:02.600]  Health insurance profits are skyrocketing, and the outgoing chairman of the House Subcommittee
[01:02.600 --> 01:06.980]  overseeing health insurance companies wants them to return the profits in the form of
[01:06.980 --> 01:08.580]  reduced premiums.
[01:08.580 --> 01:14.020]  Representative Pete Stark, chairman of the Ways and Means Health Subcommittee, says,
[01:14.020 --> 01:19.900]  quote, your 10 firms have reported over $9.3 billion in profit for the first three quarters
[01:19.900 --> 01:27.660]  of 2010, adding, on average, your profits have gone up 41 percent from last year.
[01:27.660 --> 01:31.780]  George Bush's recent admission he authorized the use of waterboarding and that he would
[01:31.780 --> 01:37.340]  make the same decision again has caused widespread outrage in the legal profession.
[01:37.340 --> 01:41.960]  Chris Ann, as a senior attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union, said, quote, everything
[01:41.960 --> 01:46.620]  in our legal history makes waterboarding a crime, yet Bush doesn't seem in the least
[01:46.620 --> 01:50.540]  concerned about the consequences of what he is confessing to.
[01:50.540 --> 01:55.220]  Jonathan Hafitz, a professor at Seton Hall University Law School, believes, quote, the
[01:55.220 --> 02:00.180]  U.S. government's failure to hold accountable those responsible for torture constitutes
[02:00.180 --> 02:04.300]  one of the darkest legacies of our era.
[02:04.300 --> 02:09.900]  Newly published DNA tests reveal a Texas man was executed in 2000 on the basis of a hair
[02:09.900 --> 02:11.980]  sample that did not belong to him.
[02:11.980 --> 02:16.820]  The results were published by the Texas Observer, which had fought a three-year legal battle
[02:16.820 --> 02:22.740]  to gain access to the DNA evidence, which showed Claude Jones had been, quote, excluded
[02:22.740 --> 02:25.900]  as the contributor of this questioned hair.
[02:25.900 --> 02:31.380]  Jones had insisted that he was waiting in the car when his accomplice killed Alan Zylendager
[02:31.380 --> 02:34.580]  during a 1989 liquor store robbery.
[02:34.580 --> 02:39.160]  Jones was convicted of murder and denied several appeals on the basis of that single strand
[02:39.160 --> 02:42.380]  of hair which police found at the scene.
[02:42.380 --> 02:47.060]  Microscopic hair analysis was later abandoned after it was deemed inconclusive and obsolete
[02:47.060 --> 02:49.980]  with the development of a DNA testing.
[02:49.980 --> 02:55.500]  Jones requested a DNA test and a stay of execution until it could be performed, but he was denied
[02:55.500 --> 02:57.500]  by then-Governor George Bush.
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[03:21.020 --> 03:44.020]  Well, I received my remedy today, came in a box just like they say, I accepted it for
[03:44.020 --> 03:45.020]  value right away.
[03:45.020 --> 03:55.020]  It's not sooner, not later, we are originators and the pathway seems to get straighter every
[03:55.020 --> 03:56.020]  day.
[03:56.020 --> 04:01.020]  And I can take anything that belongs to me and do the too good of use.
[04:01.020 --> 04:12.020]  But I was good for the gander, I was gonna work for the goose.
[04:12.020 --> 04:19.020]  I know some parts of text, I know some entries.
[04:19.020 --> 04:26.020]  They see me every day, they know a certain seems quick.
[04:26.020 --> 04:29.020]  What's up with the blatant deception?
[04:29.020 --> 04:33.020]  What is the nature of what you might gain?
[04:33.020 --> 04:41.020]  I see something headed straight for you, I think it looks just like a train.
[04:41.020 --> 04:42.020]  Shamsunder, indeed.
[04:42.020 --> 04:52.740]  We all know who that is, those of us in the 9-11 Truth Movement, we call them Shamsunder,
[04:52.740 --> 04:54.100]  not Shyam.
[04:54.100 --> 04:59.300]  At any rate, we are going to your calls where we are halfway through our Friday evening
[04:59.300 --> 05:02.340]  info marathon here, November 12, 2010.
[05:02.340 --> 05:03.340]  We're taking your calls.
[05:03.340 --> 05:04.340]  We've got Mark from Michigan.
[05:04.340 --> 05:06.100]  Mark, thank you for calling in.
[05:06.100 --> 05:08.260]  What is your question or comment tonight?
[05:08.260 --> 05:16.540]  Hey guys, you were talking to Mike last night, and I noticed that the oath of office issue
[05:16.540 --> 05:17.540]  popped up.
[05:17.540 --> 05:26.660]  And you guys got a really great case out of Texas called Prito Bail Bonds B State of Texas.
[05:26.660 --> 05:32.320]  I don't know if you've ever seen that one before, but it deals with a judge who basically
[05:32.320 --> 05:38.140]  didn't have an oath of office, and they did away with all his cases.
[05:38.140 --> 05:40.100]  They just tossed him out.
[05:40.100 --> 05:45.900]  It's been a while since I read the case, so I can't remember it, but that one was from
[05:45.900 --> 05:57.940]  Tony D. So you might want to take a look at that when dealing with the oath of office,
[05:57.940 --> 06:06.020]  because recently I had to go after the judge in my case for not having an oath of office.
[06:06.020 --> 06:13.700]  So I just shot off a letter to the attorney general going for co-warrant, so that should
[06:13.700 --> 06:14.700]  be good fun.
[06:14.700 --> 06:17.620]  We'll see what happens there.
[06:17.620 --> 06:26.020]  But the other thing, Debra, you always recount the story about how you caught the prosecutor
[06:26.020 --> 06:33.860]  holding the case file and the prosecutor cops to the felony.
[06:33.860 --> 06:37.140]  And I was thinking about that, and I was thinking about my case.
[06:37.140 --> 06:46.380]  And I came up with a motion, because in my case, what was in the court file, not everything
[06:46.380 --> 06:48.540]  was in there.
[06:48.540 --> 06:52.100]  So I'm assuming that the prosecutor might have some of the papers in there.
[06:52.100 --> 06:57.100]  I don't really know, but that's really not the issue.
[06:57.100 --> 07:04.900]  The issue is I want to get what's in the court record onto the record in the case, because
[07:04.900 --> 07:08.820]  there's some important papers that were missing that I just happened to come upon.
[07:08.820 --> 07:17.980]  So I came up with this motion for an in-camera review of the prosecutor's case file and the
[07:17.980 --> 07:22.260]  court clerk's case file.
[07:22.260 --> 07:27.460]  I thought that might be interesting, and maybe there might be something that you all could
[07:27.460 --> 07:34.980]  adapt for what's going on in Texas.
[07:34.980 --> 07:37.140]  You're wanting to compare the two.
[07:37.140 --> 07:38.140]  Right.
[07:38.140 --> 07:39.140]  Right.
[07:39.140 --> 07:41.580]  And it was an in-camera review.
[07:41.580 --> 07:42.980]  The judge can take it back.
[07:42.980 --> 07:45.740]  He can decide what's admissible, what's not.
[07:45.740 --> 07:51.780]  Now, of course, he's a scumbag, but I want something to be moved.
[07:51.780 --> 08:00.900]  I want it on the record that we've done this, that this was a concern.
[08:00.900 --> 08:02.900]  Are you following me?
[08:02.900 --> 08:04.940]  Yeah, I'm following you.
[08:04.940 --> 08:12.100]  I'm just not sure where it's going to head, where it's going to lead to, because, I mean,
[08:12.100 --> 08:16.260]  if it's in camera, the judge can just say whatever he wants, because he's the only one
[08:16.260 --> 08:18.900]  who knows, or she would be the only one who knows.
[08:18.900 --> 08:25.900]  He can, but I found that with some of these cases, you can then go back and make the argument
[08:25.900 --> 08:30.860]  and say, look, you know, I brought this before the judge, and then you can start throwing
[08:30.860 --> 08:37.100]  out all kinds of arguments, and until somebody refutes it, well, you know, you've raised
[08:37.100 --> 08:38.100]  the issue.
[08:38.100 --> 08:42.460]  Well, see, actually, I wouldn't want all that stuff that's in the prosecutor's file to go
[08:42.460 --> 08:49.180]  into the court file, because that's one of our main sources of ammunition.
[08:49.180 --> 08:50.180]  There's no complaint.
[08:50.180 --> 08:51.180]  There's no this.
[08:51.180 --> 08:52.180]  There's no that.
[08:52.180 --> 08:53.180]  You know?
[08:53.180 --> 08:57.420]  Right, but wouldn't you want it on record that he's holding it to the exclusion of
[08:57.420 --> 09:03.260]  the court, and that's where I'm going, and at that point, you can then contest it.
[09:03.260 --> 09:07.660]  You could, you know, you could object to it, saying, hey, it's been tampered with.
[09:07.660 --> 09:09.460]  We've lost a chain of custody.
[09:09.460 --> 09:14.740]  Well, I mean, you could just go schmooze up to the prosecutor and ask a secretary for
[09:14.740 --> 09:22.660]  a copy of the file that he has against you, also, because look, a lot of these guys, okay,
[09:22.660 --> 09:24.340]  they're stupid, all right?
[09:24.340 --> 09:27.060]  They don't know the law, and they're stupid.
[09:27.060 --> 09:30.980]  They're ignorant, and they're unintelligent, and they don't realize that they're committing
[09:30.980 --> 09:37.060]  felonies by holding these documents to the exclusion of the clerk of the court, so just
[09:37.060 --> 09:40.980]  play on their ignorance and just go get a copy of the file.
[09:40.980 --> 09:45.260]  The one thing that they like to do in Michigan is they like to say, you know, well, it's
[09:45.260 --> 09:50.540]  got victim's information, or this is, you know, basically the equivalent of work product,
[09:50.540 --> 09:53.100]  you know, something that they've conjured up.
[09:53.100 --> 10:00.140]  It might be a profile of you, if you're the one charged, things like that, that they've
[10:00.140 --> 10:02.980]  conjured up for the case, so they're-
[10:02.980 --> 10:07.540]  Well, what you could do is you could ask for strategic pieces of information, like ask
[10:07.540 --> 10:15.380]  for the documents that the magistrate gave them, which is mainly the documents that are
[10:15.380 --> 10:17.940]  the most incriminating ones anyway.
[10:17.940 --> 10:21.420]  Randy, do you have any comments?
[10:21.420 --> 10:26.420]  No, I'm trying to sort this out.
[10:26.420 --> 10:31.460]  You could certainly, the Brady motion should get you everything the prosecutor has, and
[10:31.460 --> 10:34.740]  if it doesn't produce it, I'm not sure where you're at.
[10:34.740 --> 10:37.260]  I'm kind of trying to keep track here.
[10:37.260 --> 10:39.820]  Well, I'll give you an example.
[10:39.820 --> 10:47.140]  In my case, there were habeas corpus orders that were granted, they were rich prepared,
[10:47.140 --> 10:50.420]  that never made it into the case file.
[10:50.420 --> 10:51.420]  Somebody had those.
[10:51.420 --> 10:56.260]  I just happened to come across them because my old attorney had a copy of them, but I
[10:56.260 --> 10:57.260]  had never seen them before.
[10:57.260 --> 11:00.060]  You know, it was like the first time I had ever seen them.
[11:00.060 --> 11:07.140]  Okay, so you know where they're at, and they're not where they're supposed to be.
[11:07.140 --> 11:08.140]  Right.
[11:08.140 --> 11:13.500]  They weren't in the court case file, so, you know, I put them in there because it strengthens
[11:13.500 --> 11:18.620]  my argument, and, you know, with this motion, I'm saying, where the heck are they at?
[11:18.620 --> 11:25.660]  Well, see, the thing is, if you ask for the judge to compare the two files in camera,
[11:25.660 --> 11:31.620]  then you are not really going to have any evidence to file criminal charges against
[11:31.620 --> 11:34.220]  the prosecutor for tampering with the government document.
[11:34.220 --> 11:38.540]  I mean, you're the one that needs to compare the files, or at least part of the files.
[11:38.540 --> 11:39.540]  Wait a minute.
[11:39.540 --> 11:46.380]  Yeah, but the problem the judge has, if he deliberately ignores what's obviously in the
[11:46.380 --> 11:53.660]  record, then this moves on to the court of appeals.
[11:53.660 --> 11:58.740]  And they're not as likely to risk their careers by lying about what's actually in the court
[11:58.740 --> 12:00.300]  record.
[12:00.300 --> 12:07.980]  And the other thing is, this judge will be disqualified in my particular case.
[12:07.980 --> 12:13.620]  I'm moving to disqualify him, and I'm getting pretty good at getting rid of him, so I have
[12:13.620 --> 12:16.380]  no doubt I'm going to toss him out.
[12:16.380 --> 12:21.460]  So I'm thinking the next guy is going to see this and go, I don't want any part of this.
[12:21.460 --> 12:24.540]  Have you filed any judicial conduct complaints?
[12:24.540 --> 12:26.100]  Oh yeah, yeah.
[12:26.100 --> 12:31.220]  I just got notice that they're investigating whatever that means.
[12:31.220 --> 12:35.340]  That means they're using it for toilet paper.
[12:35.340 --> 12:36.340]  Right, right.
[12:36.340 --> 12:37.340]  But they're there.
[12:37.340 --> 12:43.740]  I sent in about four or five different ones, so that'll be good fun.
[12:43.740 --> 12:45.740]  But we'll see.
[12:45.740 --> 12:48.220]  I was supposed to head back this week.
[12:48.220 --> 12:49.660]  I think I'm going to postpone it.
[12:49.660 --> 12:51.940]  I'm not going to be able to make it back there.
[12:51.940 --> 12:58.020]  But I expect things to get fairly ugly fairly quickly.
[12:58.020 --> 12:59.540]  Good.
[12:59.540 --> 13:06.900]  So whenever you Google this judge's name, all my documents pop up before anything else.
[13:06.900 --> 13:07.900]  Wonderful.
[13:07.900 --> 13:10.460]  And what is this judge's name?
[13:10.460 --> 13:16.220]  Judge Cholinski out of the Third Circuit in Detroit.
[13:16.220 --> 13:21.420]  I've had a couple people contact me asking if I've gotten any progress on the oath of
[13:21.420 --> 13:25.700]  office issue, because they popped in front of them during the same time.
[13:25.700 --> 13:30.620]  So it's going to be interesting.
[13:30.620 --> 13:31.980]  Wonderful.
[13:31.980 --> 13:34.660]  We just keep turning up the heat.
[13:34.660 --> 13:36.340]  Yeah, yeah.
[13:36.340 --> 13:43.300]  So after this, I'll take them into federal court, because I didn't know about half this
[13:43.300 --> 13:45.620]  stuff when it was going on.
[13:45.620 --> 13:49.020]  So it's all new news to me.
[13:49.020 --> 13:50.860]  And he's still trying to push it off.
[13:50.860 --> 13:54.740]  He's still trying to send me up to the Court of Appeals, which is fine.
[13:54.740 --> 13:56.540]  I mean, I'll go there.
[13:56.540 --> 14:00.780]  But there's a couple more things I want to deal with in his court first.
[14:00.780 --> 14:01.780]  Good.
[14:01.780 --> 14:04.780]  You want to make sure it's ripe.
[14:04.780 --> 14:07.300]  Yeah, yeah.
[14:07.300 --> 14:11.380]  I'll shoot over this document and a couple other things.
[14:11.380 --> 14:17.420]  And if you guys have any thoughts, or if anybody else can use them, that'd be great.
[14:17.420 --> 14:18.700]  Okay.
[14:18.700 --> 14:19.700]  Thank you.
[14:19.700 --> 14:20.700]  Thanks, guys.
[14:20.700 --> 14:21.700]  All right.
[14:21.700 --> 14:22.700]  Thanks, Mark.
[14:22.700 --> 14:23.700]  Okay.
[14:23.700 --> 14:25.500]  We are going now to Carlos in California.
[14:25.500 --> 14:28.020]  All right, Carlos, thank you for calling in.
[14:28.020 --> 14:30.660]  What is your question or comment for us tonight?
[14:30.660 --> 14:31.740]  All right.
[14:31.740 --> 14:32.740]  Good evening, everybody.
[14:32.740 --> 14:38.540]  Okay, Randall, I went to my trial on my lawful detainer.
[14:38.540 --> 14:41.700]  I did have a little bit of good luck, and I would like to explain, hopefully this can
[14:41.700 --> 14:43.300]  help somebody else.
[14:43.300 --> 14:44.340]  Okay.
[14:44.340 --> 14:48.820]  So when I went to the trial, they say they didn't have a judge available.
[14:48.820 --> 14:51.060]  They said, nope.
[14:51.060 --> 14:52.060]  I need a...
[14:52.060 --> 14:56.940]  A judge is not good enough for me, but that's the least I would take.
[14:56.940 --> 15:02.420]  But I mean, I will not take less than a judge, because the lady says, what's the difference
[15:02.420 --> 15:05.700]  between a judge and the other person that's going to be here, apparently, instead of the
[15:05.700 --> 15:06.700]  judge?
[15:06.700 --> 15:09.780]  He knows almost as much as the judge, I said.
[15:09.780 --> 15:10.780]  I want a judge.
[15:10.780 --> 15:16.260]  They said, okay, you're going to have to go across the hall, and we're going to assign
[15:16.260 --> 15:18.580]  your case to a judge.
[15:18.580 --> 15:24.100]  Could be a criminal judge, but if that's what you want, that's what you'll get.
[15:24.100 --> 15:25.100]  Good.
[15:25.100 --> 15:28.700]  So I went in front of that criminal judge, and I took my reporter with me.
[15:28.700 --> 15:36.620]  And she said, and as soon as I said, according to the judge's bench book, she stopped me.
[15:36.620 --> 15:44.740]  She says, hold on, hold on, she says, well, I don't have time for this, I'm doing some
[15:44.740 --> 15:45.740]  criminal cases.
[15:45.740 --> 15:49.100]  If I have more time, I'll jump into your case.
[15:49.100 --> 15:55.740]  So we sat there for three more hours, and as soon as I said that according to the judge's
[15:55.740 --> 16:01.500]  bench book, it says, if I raise due process issue, it must be her.
[16:01.500 --> 16:05.460]  She says, you know what, I'm sorry, ran out of time.
[16:05.460 --> 16:09.380]  I'm going to postpone this for three more weeks until the 30th.
[16:09.380 --> 16:12.820]  And basically, that's what I wanted, because I wanted to get more experience on that.
[16:12.820 --> 16:16.380]  And what do you think, Randy?
[16:16.380 --> 16:21.900]  I think you stepped out, so you trapped the judge.
[16:21.900 --> 16:27.620]  You trapped the judge in her own rules, and this is what we're about.
[16:27.620 --> 16:31.060]  We take their rules back to them.
[16:31.060 --> 16:37.540]  And now she knew, you know, she got trapped into this position to cover somebody else,
[16:37.540 --> 16:41.860]  and now she's looking like she's going to get stung herself, and she doesn't want that
[16:41.860 --> 16:42.860]  to happen.
[16:42.860 --> 16:43.860]  All right.
[16:43.860 --> 16:44.860]  Wonderful.
[16:44.860 --> 16:45.860]  Thank you.
[16:45.860 --> 16:46.860]  If you can add something else, go ahead.
[16:46.860 --> 16:47.860]  Later.
[16:47.860 --> 16:48.860]  Thank you.
[16:48.860 --> 16:49.860]  Thank you, Carlos.
[16:49.860 --> 16:50.860]  OK, we're about to go to break.
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[19:16.620 --> 19:38.620]  Come on, trust in God, my friend, tell Him your problems end, call on His name once again,
[19:38.620 --> 19:54.620]  tell Him your troubles end, call on His name once again, call on His name once again, call
[19:54.620 --> 19:58.620]  Wicked man sayin', mankind you know is just leadin' me
[19:58.620 --> 20:04.620]  Just invite me friend, tell him your problem's dead
[20:04.620 --> 20:10.620]  Call his name once again, miracle you know he worth bein'
[20:10.620 --> 20:16.620]  Just invite me friend, tell him your problem's dead
[20:16.620 --> 20:22.620]  Call his name once again, miracle you know he worth bein'
[20:22.620 --> 20:28.620]  Just invite me friend, tell him your problem's dead
[20:28.620 --> 20:34.620]  Call his name once again, miracle you know he worth bein'
[20:34.620 --> 20:40.620]  Just invite me friend, tell him your problem's dead
[20:40.620 --> 20:46.620]  Call his name once again, miracle you know he worth bein'
[20:46.620 --> 20:52.620]  Just invite me friend, tell him your problem's dead
[20:52.620 --> 20:58.620]  Call his name once again, miracle you know he worth bein'
[20:58.620 --> 21:02.620]  He is the king, earth, white, full ruler
[21:02.620 --> 21:06.620]  That's why I call upon his name every hour
[21:06.620 --> 21:10.620]  Call on his name like him now I am here
[21:10.620 --> 21:14.620]  All of my faith when I put in on him
[21:14.620 --> 21:18.620]  Only God alone makes it, he is me
[21:18.620 --> 21:20.620]  He is earth, white, full ruler
[21:20.620 --> 21:24.620]  That's why I call upon his name every hour
[21:24.620 --> 21:52.620]  Call on his name, miracles you know he works in all of us
[21:52.620 --> 21:58.620]  I'm getting ready to have him do a tort letter to the city on his first case
[21:58.620 --> 22:04.620]  And what was the amount of damages that was awarded to that guy in Florida?
[22:04.620 --> 22:12.620]  A thousand and sixty five dollars a minute
[22:12.620 --> 22:20.620]  He was in for twenty three minutes and he sued for twenty five thousand and he got it
[22:20.620 --> 22:28.620]  Okay my next question is with the magistrate doing the examining trial
[22:28.620 --> 22:33.620]  He's sealed the document and write his name across the seal
[22:33.620 --> 22:35.620]  And forward to the clerk of the court
[22:35.620 --> 22:38.620]  Where in the code is that found?
[22:38.620 --> 22:42.620]  Seventeen point three zero
[22:42.620 --> 22:45.620]  That's in the code of criminal procedures?
[22:45.620 --> 22:48.620]  Code of criminal procedure, certifying proceedings
[22:48.620 --> 22:53.620]  Now what type of, what was the level of the charge that they were levying against your son?
[22:53.620 --> 22:55.620]  Misdemeanor what?
[22:55.620 --> 22:59.620]  I'm not sure on that
[22:59.620 --> 23:02.620]  Okay what was the charge?
[23:02.620 --> 23:05.620]  Possession of marijuana
[23:05.620 --> 23:06.620]  Amounts?
[23:06.620 --> 23:08.620]  Less than two ounces
[23:08.620 --> 23:12.620]  Okay it's misdemeanor, I think it's Class C misdemeanor
[23:12.620 --> 23:15.620]  Don't quote me but I'm pretty sure that's what it is
[23:15.620 --> 23:19.620]  Okay if it's Class C or A or B for that matter
[23:19.620 --> 23:24.620]  There are several steps that they must do when they arrest without a warrant
[23:24.620 --> 23:27.620]  And they don't do any of them
[23:27.620 --> 23:36.620]  I realize this, isn't the magistrate that holds the examining trial supposed to issue a warrant for the arrest at that time?
[23:36.620 --> 23:41.620]  Two things, 1617 he's required to issue an order
[23:41.620 --> 23:49.620]  Stating whether he binds the person over for trial, releases them at their liberty or sets them to bail
[23:49.620 --> 23:54.620]  Right and that same step is in 1517B
[23:54.620 --> 23:56.620]  Okay and then
[23:56.620 --> 23:57.620]  And they're supposed to do
[23:57.620 --> 24:02.620]  And then in 1620 he's required to issue a warrant
[24:02.620 --> 24:10.620]  It is the criminal accusation that gives the magistrate jurisdiction to hold an examining trial
[24:10.620 --> 24:21.620]  Then it is the warrant that the magistrate issues after a determination of probable cause that gives the state subject matter jurisdiction to prosecute
[24:21.620 --> 24:31.620]  Okay and nowhere in his file is there a by definition warrant for his arrest
[24:31.620 --> 24:37.620]  Then the accusation is that the court is without subject matter jurisdiction
[24:37.620 --> 24:38.620]  Right
[24:38.620 --> 24:41.620]  There has been no determination of probable cause
[24:41.620 --> 24:44.620]  Okay now we're to my next item
[24:44.620 --> 24:46.620]  The motion to dismiss
[24:46.620 --> 24:50.620]  His court appointed attorney won't touch it
[24:50.620 --> 24:52.620]  Violable grievance against him
[24:52.620 --> 24:55.620]  Right and we'll get to that issue here in a little bit
[24:55.620 --> 25:04.620]  And also he paid another guy $300 to do this
[25:04.620 --> 25:09.620]  And he faxed over a copy of your motion to dismiss
[25:09.620 --> 25:13.620]  And the guy says well this is gobbledygook and I'm not going to touch it
[25:13.620 --> 25:16.620]  Okay was that your son that did this?
[25:16.620 --> 25:17.620]  Yeah
[25:17.620 --> 25:20.620]  Okay and you just grieved the attorney
[25:20.620 --> 25:21.620]  Right
[25:21.620 --> 25:27.620]  You should have heard my attorney when I told him I was prepared to file a bar grievance against him
[25:27.620 --> 25:37.620]  Well his court appointed attorney says first off he told him that he was going to bar grievance him
[25:37.620 --> 25:39.620]  He goes well you can't do that
[25:39.620 --> 25:41.620]  He goes yeah I can watch me
[25:41.620 --> 25:43.620]  He goes well I don't care
[25:43.620 --> 25:46.620]  Yeah okay we'll see how much you don't care
[25:46.620 --> 25:53.620]  But now this other guy that took his $300 and didn't perform anything
[25:53.620 --> 26:02.620]  Anthony called him up to get his money back and the guy says well you owe me $12.35
[26:02.620 --> 26:04.620]  The attorney told him that?
[26:04.620 --> 26:06.620]  Yeah
[26:06.620 --> 26:09.620]  So what did he tell the attorney?
[26:09.620 --> 26:12.620]  He said I want my money back
[26:12.620 --> 26:16.620]  You didn't do what you said you were going to do I want my money back
[26:16.620 --> 26:22.620]  The guy says no you owe me $12.35 more
[26:22.620 --> 26:25.620]  So did he bar grieve this guy?
[26:25.620 --> 26:26.620]  Get ready to yeah
[26:26.620 --> 26:30.620]  Okay I suggest you don't threaten him with a bar grievance
[26:30.620 --> 26:31.620]  Just do it
[26:31.620 --> 26:33.620]  Just grieve him
[26:33.620 --> 26:34.620]  Yeah
[26:34.620 --> 26:43.620]  As far as your court appointed counsel you give him opportunity to do his duty and let him know
[26:43.620 --> 26:49.620]  For every arrest I can get 21 due process violations
[26:49.620 --> 26:50.620]  Right
[26:50.620 --> 26:57.620]  Fail to adjudicate a single one and for every one you fail to adjudicate a bar review
[26:57.620 --> 27:05.620]  Well these guys do not they will not touch due process
[27:05.620 --> 27:07.620]  I mean they are
[27:07.620 --> 27:09.620]  They don't have a clue what due process is
[27:09.620 --> 27:19.620]  Exactly because two lawyers two different answers on why they couldn't file that due process motion
[27:19.620 --> 27:23.620]  Then grieve the attorney
[27:23.620 --> 27:30.620]  The attorney will go to the court and move the court to remove him from the case
[27:30.620 --> 27:32.620]  He's already done that
[27:32.620 --> 27:34.620]  A lot of bar grievance against him for that
[27:34.620 --> 27:40.620]  And Anthony said I'm going to bar grievance you for that because you can't because I am
[27:40.620 --> 27:42.620]  You can bar grieve him for anything
[27:42.620 --> 27:53.620]  I realize that and see the thing is you know Anthony just turned 18 and so he's going to have to go in there you know without any help at all
[27:53.620 --> 28:00.620]  Because the shysters that the court has working for them are not going to help him
[28:00.620 --> 28:15.620]  They keep trying to talking into taking this either deferred adjudication or some new process of you don't put in a plea
[28:15.620 --> 28:21.620]  But you go on probation without even going to trial
[28:21.620 --> 28:24.620]  Yeah but they are going to enter a plea of no low contender
[28:24.620 --> 28:28.620]  Yeah they are going to enter a plea of no contest form for sure
[28:28.620 --> 28:30.620]  Yeah they are lying to him
[28:30.620 --> 28:39.620]  Okay now on filing a motion to dismiss Anthony can do that himself correct?
[28:39.620 --> 28:42.620]  The attorney is going to tell him that he can't
[28:42.620 --> 28:43.620]  Right I understand that
[28:43.620 --> 28:47.620]  So what he does then is tell the attorney
[28:47.620 --> 28:48.620]  Stand aside
[28:48.620 --> 28:50.620]  Yeah you're fired get out of here
[28:50.620 --> 28:53.620]  Yeah lead, follow or get out of the way
[28:53.620 --> 28:59.620]  Yeah then file the motions and then demand that the court appoint you competent counsel
[28:59.620 --> 29:03.620]  Okay who does he file that motion with
[29:03.620 --> 29:04.620]  The court
[29:04.620 --> 29:05.620]  The clerk of the court
[29:05.620 --> 29:06.620]  Yeah
[29:06.620 --> 29:10.620]  Okay and when the clerk of the court refuses to take it
[29:10.620 --> 29:15.620]  You call security and ask the security to arrest the clerk
[29:15.620 --> 29:16.620]  Roger copy over
[29:16.620 --> 29:23.620]  And when security refuses you know don't get upset say that's okay no problem I just need a name
[29:23.620 --> 29:26.620]  I'm just following all the steps
[29:26.620 --> 29:31.620]  And that will scare them more than anything
[29:31.620 --> 29:34.620]  Anthony's got a lot of me in him
[29:34.620 --> 29:36.620]  Good
[29:36.620 --> 29:41.620]  Which I don't like putting up with crap
[29:41.620 --> 29:45.620]  Alright listen Gerald do you want to hang on the lines
[29:45.620 --> 29:48.620]  Yeah I've got just a couple more items that I'd like to talk about
[29:48.620 --> 29:49.620]  Okay great just stay right there
[29:49.620 --> 29:51.620]  After that we've got Paul, Dave and Raymond
[29:51.620 --> 29:52.620]  We'll be right back folks
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[32:17.620 --> 32:23.620]  Okay folks we're back we're speaking with Gerald in Texas right now, Anthony's father
[32:23.620 --> 32:27.620]  We love it, they're not putting up with it
[32:27.620 --> 32:29.620]  They're mad as hell they're not going to take it anymore
[32:29.620 --> 32:31.620]  Okay Gerald go ahead
[32:31.620 --> 32:35.620]  Okay on direct solicitation by lawyers
[32:35.620 --> 32:38.620]  I understand there's a law against that
[32:38.620 --> 32:40.620]  Called baritree
[32:40.620 --> 32:41.620]  Correct
[32:41.620 --> 32:43.620]  Well now wait a minute there's an exception
[32:43.620 --> 32:47.620]  The lawyers can I think it's like what it's like a hundred bucks a month or something
[32:47.620 --> 32:52.620]  There's some fee that they can pay to get a list a listing of all the arrests
[32:52.620 --> 32:56.620]  That have taken place in that month or that or that week or whatever
[32:56.620 --> 33:00.620]  And that is the only exception to ambulance chasing in Texas
[33:00.620 --> 33:04.620]  If you've been arrested they can get the list of everybody that's been arrested
[33:04.620 --> 33:06.620]  And they can send them a direct mailing
[33:06.620 --> 33:09.620]  That's the only exception to ambulance chasing in Texas
[33:09.620 --> 33:15.620]  Okay yeah because what happened was about a week after you got arrested
[33:15.620 --> 33:18.620]  A couple envelopes come in the mail
[33:18.620 --> 33:20.620]  That's okay yeah
[33:20.620 --> 33:24.620]  Nothing in the envelopes just the lawyers
[33:24.620 --> 33:26.620]  That's allowed
[33:26.620 --> 33:28.620]  They can do that
[33:28.620 --> 33:36.620]  Okay on bar grievances let's do the Texas Bar Association file it on their website
[33:36.620 --> 33:42.620]  Yeah you can find a downloadable grievance form that you can fill out
[33:42.620 --> 33:46.620]  Okay and I heard you talking about it the other day
[33:46.620 --> 33:51.620]  But I didn't catch the whole thing on they have
[33:51.620 --> 33:59.620]  Examples they use the legalese and all that for writing your bar grievance
[33:59.620 --> 34:01.620]  You don't care about the legalese
[34:01.620 --> 34:04.620]  They forbid you to use case law
[34:04.620 --> 34:05.620]  Okay
[34:05.620 --> 34:09.620]  And they're going to throw out your bar grievance no matter what you put on it
[34:09.620 --> 34:13.620]  Yeah I understand that but his insurance company is not going to fill it out
[34:13.620 --> 34:22.620]  Right so but you want to write the bar grievance in the language of the standard you accuse him of violating
[34:22.620 --> 34:23.620]  Okay
[34:23.620 --> 34:26.620]  That was joking out in their shorts
[34:26.620 --> 34:28.620]  Okay
[34:28.620 --> 34:41.620]  What they were saying was if you didn't write the grievance in the terms of a standard they considered it an offer a request for mediation
[34:41.620 --> 34:42.620]  Okay
[34:42.620 --> 34:45.620]  So they're trying to do a song and dance to cover their buddies
[34:45.620 --> 34:47.620]  Yeah I understand that
[34:47.620 --> 34:50.620]  If you put it in the terms of a grievance they don't get to do that
[34:50.620 --> 34:52.620]  Okay
[34:52.620 --> 34:58.620]  And that's why I planned on putting in the header this is a grievance
[34:58.620 --> 34:59.620]  Good
[34:59.620 --> 35:04.620]  Let it be known that
[35:04.620 --> 35:07.620]  You mean you're not going to cut them any slack
[35:07.620 --> 35:08.620]  No
[35:08.620 --> 35:10.620]  Wonderful
[35:10.620 --> 35:11.620]  Okay
[35:11.620 --> 35:22.620]  I did 23 years in the military and I didn't spend that time so they could bring in a police state and walk all over the rights that I protected
[35:22.620 --> 35:23.620]  Good
[35:23.620 --> 35:24.620]  This is
[35:24.620 --> 35:25.620]  Good for you
[35:25.620 --> 35:28.620]  I think maybe the government has created their own worst enemies
[35:28.620 --> 35:29.620]  Yeah
[35:29.620 --> 35:31.620]  Yeah I think they have
[35:31.620 --> 35:39.620]  Because guys like you have the audacity to actually abide by the oath you swore to
[35:39.620 --> 35:41.620]  They got to hate that
[35:41.620 --> 35:42.620]  Yeah
[35:42.620 --> 35:44.620]  And
[35:44.620 --> 35:47.620]  Well we'll see if they abide by their oath
[35:47.620 --> 35:48.620]  Wonderful
[35:48.620 --> 35:49.620]  Thank you
[35:49.620 --> 35:50.620]  Okay you guys have a good night
[35:50.620 --> 35:52.620]  Excellent show
[35:52.620 --> 35:53.620]  Alright thank you Gerald
[35:53.620 --> 35:54.620]  Thank you
[35:54.620 --> 35:57.620]  Okay we're going now to Paul in Texas
[35:57.620 --> 36:02.620]  Paul thank you for calling in what is on your mind tonight what's your question or comment
[36:02.620 --> 36:11.620]  Yes this is directed there to Randy thank you folks for your service there appreciate it
[36:11.620 --> 36:19.620]  Randy I've gone to your remedies and real estate website and on the truth of lending form that you have posted on the internet
[36:19.620 --> 36:28.620]  We had water damage back a hundred year flood here in San Antonio and lost that truth of lending statement I went to the courthouse
[36:28.620 --> 36:37.620]  And I pulled every record that is on my residence and I don't see the truth of lending unless it's under a different title
[36:37.620 --> 36:43.620]  No it won't be there what you can do is go to the trustee who did the closing
[36:43.620 --> 36:50.620]  He will most likely have it if your lender has gone bankrupt which a lot of them have
[36:50.620 --> 37:01.620]  When it's sold out two or three times they claim after five years are not required to keep the records but generally you can find it with the title company
[37:01.620 --> 37:02.620]  Okay
[37:02.620 --> 37:10.620]  And as far as the calculation that is just one of the calculations it's not more one of the more critical ones
[37:10.620 --> 37:16.620]  The second page of the hard one settlement statements that's the biggie
[37:16.620 --> 37:17.620]  Correct
[37:17.620 --> 37:24.620]  It's got all the fees they charged you and there's always going to be at least one that's bogus
[37:24.620 --> 37:33.620]  So I need to the original document and now hopefully with all the stuff that's going on
[37:33.620 --> 37:41.620]  If I don't find the original document or just a copy of the document then of course we're going to have to have legal remedy
[37:41.620 --> 37:47.620]  Well we can if you have the hard one we still can get other calculations
[37:47.620 --> 37:57.620]  And frankly the calculations aren't that important other than creating a number to wave in front of the jury
[37:57.620 --> 38:10.620]  The real issues that the attorneys on the other side are not going to want to deal with primarily go to standing agency standing in capacity
[38:10.620 --> 38:11.620]  Okay
[38:11.620 --> 38:20.620]  They have to show that either they have agency to represent the holder or that they are the holder
[38:20.620 --> 38:21.620]  Correct
[38:21.620 --> 38:28.620]  And if they get past that one then they have to show that they have standing to enforce the note
[38:28.620 --> 38:39.620]  Enforce the provisions on the deed in response to a failure to perform on the note and in order to do that they have to have both of them
[38:39.620 --> 38:40.620]  Okay I see
[38:40.620 --> 38:55.620]  And even if they have both of them if they have the deed of trust and they can show an uninterrupted chain of possession of the deed of trust from the original lender to them
[38:55.620 --> 39:02.620]  Then they also have to have the original promissory note
[39:02.620 --> 39:13.620]  And if they have the promissory note they also have to be able to show that that promissory note was transferred to them by a valid holder
[39:13.620 --> 39:28.620]  And the only way someone can be a valid holder is to have the note transferred to them by a valid holder all the way back in a direct uninterrupted line to the original lender
[39:28.620 --> 39:29.620]  Okay
[39:29.620 --> 39:44.620]  They are not going to be able to do that and almost certainly the note is in one entity's name the lien document the deed of trust is in someone else's
[39:44.620 --> 39:50.620]  And if that's the case they don't have standing to express the note
[39:50.620 --> 39:51.620]  Okay
[39:51.620 --> 40:04.620]  Even if they prove upstanding now they have to show that they have the capacity to come before the court and that's a whole other issue
[40:04.620 --> 40:07.620]  Right and then it just goes on from that point
[40:07.620 --> 40:18.620]  Yeah I'm trying to fill out that form and of course I need to get the truth on the lending document so that way I can fill out for your webpage and I'm hoping that we don't stumble around with
[40:18.620 --> 40:30.620]  Okay don't waste time if you don't have truth in lending don't worry about it put in what you have get it to us we'll look at it we can seek out the truth in lending later
[40:30.620 --> 40:38.620]  Better to get what you can in there we get a set of numbers so you can kind of look at what we're going to get to throw at them
[40:38.620 --> 40:47.620]  About 25% of the time we don't find the disparate discrepancy between truth in lending statement and the note
[40:47.620 --> 40:56.620]  So it may be that even if you find it especially if you're in California we may not find that discrepancy
[40:56.620 --> 41:03.620]  So that one is not that terribly important we'll find plenty on the HUD one
[41:03.620 --> 41:17.620]  Excellent that sounds great so yeah the equity has gone up I mean we're in Texas or San Antonio we haven't had a big hit but I know that it's going around and you know it should be a concern for everybody no matter where you're located
[41:17.620 --> 41:23.620]  And we're current but I still want to investigate if there's anything any fraud you know we need to take care of this
[41:23.620 --> 41:40.620]  Current is the best time to hammer them because you come in with absolutely clean hands you don't have to struggle with the temporary restraining order or with the preliminary injunction
[41:40.620 --> 41:47.620]  Trying to get the judge to stop the lender from foreclosing you don't have to go through any of that
[41:47.620 --> 41:57.620]  And the lender has no counterclaim has no way of coming out of this with anything but a loss
[41:57.620 --> 42:02.620]  He looks at it he's going to lose that's all there is to it
[42:02.620 --> 42:12.620]  We have two other properties there too just in case should we just do this one at a time how do we work that or should I make three different forms and send it to you guys
[42:12.620 --> 42:19.620]  It depends on the condition of the notes if they're all up to date run them all at once
[42:19.620 --> 42:21.620]  Are they with the same lenders?
[42:21.620 --> 42:26.620]  One is with the different and the other two are with one lender so it will be two different lenders
[42:26.620 --> 42:35.620]  If you've got two with one lender he's going to want to make a deal and we're talking to people now who do loan modifications
[42:35.620 --> 42:45.620]  And we're looking at putting in a request for a loan modification at the same time that we're filing the suit
[42:45.620 --> 42:56.620]  So instead of going for a loan modification with your hat in your hand you go for a loan modification with your boot up their behinds
[42:56.620 --> 42:57.620]  Yes sir
[42:57.620 --> 43:05.620]  And you say Bubba make me a deal I can't live without and I'll save you all these attorney fees
[43:05.620 --> 43:07.620]  That sounds great
[43:07.620 --> 43:11.620]  So you're in the best position
[43:11.620 --> 43:18.620]  Well okay well thank you so much and I know it's tough out there tough times right now it's going to get worse by yourself and people
[43:18.620 --> 43:21.620]  Yes and it's going to get much worse for the lender
[43:21.620 --> 43:23.620]  That's right
[43:23.620 --> 43:37.620]  The legislature has thrown them to the wolves and the judges are getting enough decisions against them that they're getting more comfortable ruling against the lenders
[43:37.620 --> 43:40.620]  So time is on our side
[43:40.620 --> 43:42.620]  Alright thank you Randy thank you guys
[43:42.620 --> 43:48.620]  Thank you very much for calling Mr. Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig, Wheel of Law Radio
[43:48.620 --> 43:54.620]  We've still got another hour and fifteen minutes we'll be right back on the other side
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[46:33.620 --> 46:35.620]  Alright folks we are back
[46:35.620 --> 46:42.620]  Just here making our living pushing buttons in more ways than one
[46:42.620 --> 46:46.620]  Alright we are getting the message out that is for sure
[46:46.620 --> 46:49.620]  Alright we are going now to Raymond in California
[46:49.620 --> 46:52.620]  And after that we've only got a couple more people on the line
[46:52.620 --> 46:57.620]  So folks if you'd like to call in 512-646-1984 Raymond from California
[46:57.620 --> 47:00.620]  Thank you for calling in what's on your mind tonight?
[47:00.620 --> 47:02.620]  Alright am I coming in alright?
[47:02.620 --> 47:04.620]  Yes go ahead please
[47:04.620 --> 47:10.620]  Alright I'm calling because I would like to find out more about grand jury investigations
[47:10.620 --> 47:14.620]  And how one can be initiated
[47:14.620 --> 47:18.620]  Are there any hard fast rules as to what the requirements are
[47:18.620 --> 47:24.620]  And more specifically this is a case that started off in federal court
[47:24.620 --> 47:31.620]  It was a retirement case that had to do with ERISA and the basic labor agreement
[47:31.620 --> 47:36.620]  Because of a company that had closed and the company still of course
[47:36.620 --> 47:40.620]  There were remaining benefits that had already accrued
[47:40.620 --> 47:46.620]  And so the still workers were laid off and they retained some benefits
[47:46.620 --> 47:52.620]  Now it went to federal court and it was adjudicated properly
[47:52.620 --> 47:54.620]  And they were awarded their benefits
[47:54.620 --> 48:00.620]  But the plaintiffs later discovered that they had not been paid all of their benefits
[48:00.620 --> 48:07.620]  So they sued in district court the attorneys that were handling their case
[48:07.620 --> 48:17.620]  In district court the plaintiff's attorney was passive to the point of collusion
[48:17.620 --> 48:19.620]  And did not fight the case
[48:19.620 --> 48:27.620]  And so what the defendant attorneys did is they started re-arguing the original federal case
[48:27.620 --> 48:29.620]  To re-argue the basic labor agreement
[48:29.620 --> 48:35.620]  They raised the original issues out of that case and argued those
[48:35.620 --> 48:37.620]  But this was a res judicata case
[48:37.620 --> 48:44.620]  It had been settled and it had been done and the war had already been adjudicated
[48:44.620 --> 48:47.620]  And so they re-argued that
[48:47.620 --> 48:51.620]  So it was a foregone conclusion that you would get tossed
[48:51.620 --> 48:56.620]  Well they were trying to re-argue the old federal case
[48:56.620 --> 49:00.620]  Rather than arguing the issues in the new case that they had not been paid their benefits
[49:00.620 --> 49:02.620]  From the original adjudication
[49:02.620 --> 49:09.620]  Yeah it sounds like the attorneys deliberately brought an argument calculated to lose
[49:09.620 --> 49:14.620]  Because it had already been adjudicated for res judicata
[49:14.620 --> 49:19.620]  Well see what they were trying to do is reinterpret the federal case
[49:19.620 --> 49:25.620]  And they were claiming that the plaintiffs did not qualify for these benefits
[49:25.620 --> 49:29.620]  They were claiming that the plaintiffs they were suing for the benefits
[49:29.620 --> 49:31.620]  They were now trying to say they did not qualify
[49:31.620 --> 49:34.620]  But there was already an award given in the federal case that said they did not qualify
[49:34.620 --> 49:37.620]  Okay I misunderstood I thought it was your attorney
[49:37.620 --> 49:41.620]  You were going back for what you did not get
[49:41.620 --> 49:46.620]  And you were trying to get more than what you got in the original case
[49:46.620 --> 49:48.620]  And your attorneys argued the same issues
[49:48.620 --> 49:56.620]  So this is the other side arguing issues that had already been adjudicated
[49:56.620 --> 50:03.620]  Yes to put it in a nutshell I'm trying to avoid making it too complicated
[50:03.620 --> 50:05.620]  For this phone call
[50:05.620 --> 50:11.620]  But just to put it in a nutshell the company closed its plant
[50:11.620 --> 50:15.620]  And the employees had benefits remaining
[50:15.620 --> 50:18.620]  And of course when you accrue benefits and you're simply laid off
[50:18.620 --> 50:21.620]  You don't lose those benefits
[50:21.620 --> 50:24.620]  So they did a trial in the federal court
[50:24.620 --> 50:29.620]  And they used their labor agreement in the ERISA the Federal ERISA Act
[50:29.620 --> 50:34.620]  And they adjudicated that these benefits were in fact due to the employees
[50:34.620 --> 50:38.620]  As well as other things you know pension and what not
[50:38.620 --> 50:43.620]  Well later they discovered that they had not been given certain benefits
[50:43.620 --> 50:47.620]  So they decided to go to district court and sue their attorneys
[50:47.620 --> 50:49.620]  Okay stop stop
[50:49.620 --> 50:56.620]  Okay they you're talking about those who had benefits accrued
[50:56.620 --> 51:03.620]  The employees the employees sued their former counsel
[51:03.620 --> 51:07.620]  And they essentially won in the first case
[51:07.620 --> 51:14.620]  But found that they hadn't pleaded all of the issues they had available
[51:14.620 --> 51:18.620]  No they had pleaded the original case just fine
[51:18.620 --> 51:23.620]  And they had sued in the district court also to get
[51:23.620 --> 51:29.620]  Okay wait help us out here and avoid using pronouns
[51:29.620 --> 51:31.620]  Yeah I'm sorry
[51:31.620 --> 51:34.620]  That way we'll know which one you're referring to
[51:34.620 --> 51:39.620]  Okay when I write this I can see the flaw in the speech
[51:39.620 --> 51:43.620]  But when I'm talking it's a little bit difficult to keep track of myself
[51:43.620 --> 51:52.620]  But I will the employees had not been fully paid their benefits from the federal case
[51:52.620 --> 51:57.620]  So the employees hired attorneys to represent them in a district case
[51:57.620 --> 52:02.620]  To sue their formal counsel in the federal case
[52:02.620 --> 52:10.620]  You see so the plaintiff's counsel in the federal case are now being sued by the employees
[52:10.620 --> 52:14.620]  What was their claim against counsel was that malpractice in that
[52:14.620 --> 52:22.620]  The counsel failed to properly adjudicate all of their all of the awards they had available
[52:22.620 --> 52:26.620]  They didn't pay them yeah they didn't pay them all their money
[52:26.620 --> 52:28.620]  The attorneys kept their money
[52:28.620 --> 52:35.620]  Oh okay so they weren't saying that they didn't get as much award as they should have
[52:35.620 --> 52:38.620]  They're saying they got the award and the attorneys didn't give it to them
[52:38.620 --> 52:39.620]  Oh okay
[52:39.620 --> 52:46.620]  They're not disputing the federal case the federal case was adjudicated properly
[52:46.620 --> 52:51.620]  It was fine they were given all of their monies in the award
[52:51.620 --> 52:56.620]  It's just that their counsel who received the check from the company
[52:56.620 --> 52:59.620]  Did not pay all of the money to the employees
[52:59.620 --> 53:01.620]  Did they make any claims
[53:01.620 --> 53:06.620]  Did they make a claim as to why they didn't
[53:06.620 --> 53:14.620]  Well when they were sued in district court for not
[53:14.620 --> 53:23.620]  When the attorneys were sued in district court for not paying their clients all of the money due to them
[53:23.620 --> 53:31.620]  They claimed at that point that the employees did not qualify for it as a matter of law
[53:31.620 --> 53:37.620]  So they started re-arguing the original federal case and they tried to reinterpret the federal case
[53:37.620 --> 53:46.620]  Wait a minute this is the attorneys that argued that you were that you did qualify for these
[53:46.620 --> 53:50.620]  So they won the case and the court said you qualified for them
[53:50.620 --> 53:56.620]  And then the attorneys that won the case came back and said oh well you didn't really apply
[53:56.620 --> 53:59.620]  You didn't really qualify after all
[53:59.620 --> 54:01.620]  That's in fact correct yes
[54:01.620 --> 54:06.620]  Or are they saying that yes we have these funds
[54:06.620 --> 54:14.620]  And we have a duty to distribute these funds to those employees who are qualified to receive these funds
[54:14.620 --> 54:20.620]  But you, you, you and you, you don't qualify to receive these funds
[54:20.620 --> 54:25.620]  Yeah they're using as a defense to being sued for not paying the employees
[54:25.620 --> 54:28.620]  They're claiming that the employees didn't qualify
[54:28.620 --> 54:31.620]  And the way that they're doing that is they're warping
[54:31.620 --> 54:36.620]  First of all they're re-arguing the federal case which is Rez Judicata
[54:36.620 --> 54:42.620]  Instead of arguing we should have paid them but didn't or we paid them
[54:42.620 --> 54:45.620]  And so we don't have to pay them again
[54:45.620 --> 54:48.620]  They didn't even argue the material issues in the district court case
[54:48.620 --> 54:53.620]  They tried to, they started raising and re-arguing the issues in the federal case
[54:53.620 --> 54:57.620]  But that had already been settled but they were now trying to kill the district court
[54:57.620 --> 55:00.620]  Oh they don't qualify, they didn't qualify
[55:00.620 --> 55:03.620]  Okay let me ask another question here
[55:03.620 --> 55:08.620]  Did they not distribute any of the funds
[55:08.620 --> 55:11.620]  They distributed some of the money
[55:11.620 --> 55:20.620]  Okay didn't they distribute the money evenly across the, the class
[55:20.620 --> 55:23.620]  Well here's the thing about that
[55:23.620 --> 55:26.620]  They didn't keep any records and so in the district case
[55:26.620 --> 55:31.620]  They tried to get authentic records to see how the money was disseminated
[55:31.620 --> 55:39.620]  And the employees tried to get the records of the distribution of the monies
[55:39.620 --> 55:46.620]  But the defendant attorneys who were at one time representing these employees
[55:46.620 --> 55:51.620]  Said that they don't keep the records
[55:51.620 --> 55:56.620]  If they don't keep records of disbursements there were no disbursements
[55:56.620 --> 56:00.620]  Well this is part of the problem
[56:00.620 --> 56:04.620]  Yeah if these attorneys receive the funds in their keeping
[56:04.620 --> 56:10.620]  And they're claiming they disbursed those funds, they're going to have to prove it
[56:10.620 --> 56:13.620]  Well this is where, this is where the case gets interesting
[56:13.620 --> 56:19.620]  Because as they went through this district court case
[56:19.620 --> 56:24.620]  Hiring a new counsel to represent them in the district court case
[56:24.620 --> 56:29.620]  To sue their former counsel in the federal case for not having paid them their full benefits
[56:29.620 --> 56:37.620]  Their new counsel remained passive and did not preserve the case or argue the case in any way
[56:37.620 --> 56:42.620]  And was allowing them to start raising these issues from the former case
[56:42.620 --> 56:45.620]  And when they raised the issues from the former case
[56:45.620 --> 56:52.620]  They started saying that they didn't qualify because they were quote unquote effectively discharged
[56:52.620 --> 56:56.620]  Now they were not discharged, they were laid off
[56:56.620 --> 56:59.620]  And discharge comes under a different set of rules
[56:59.620 --> 57:02.620]  And again I'm trying to keep this as simple as possible
[57:02.620 --> 57:06.620]  But so they twisted the meaning by reinterpreting the federal case
[57:06.620 --> 57:11.620]  Said that they were effectively discharged so that they can use discharge rules under the BLA
[57:11.620 --> 57:15.620]  That shows that well if you're discharged you lose your benefits
[57:15.620 --> 57:16.620]  But they were never discharged
[57:16.620 --> 57:21.620]  See a discharge is when you're a bad boy and you do something terrible to the company and they fire you
[57:21.620 --> 57:23.620]  But these people were never fired
[57:23.620 --> 57:28.620]  This is taking too long we used up a whole second
[57:28.620 --> 57:32.620]  Yes that's why I was trying to just get to the point about doing a
[57:32.620 --> 57:38.620]  The question is these attorneys are holding the funds
[57:38.620 --> 57:44.620]  Are they holding the funds in a non-interest bearing account
[57:44.620 --> 57:49.620]  And if not are they accounting for the interest in the accounts
[57:49.620 --> 57:55.620]  Or are they drawing monies from these funds
[57:55.620 --> 57:59.620]  They're refusing to answer any of the questions that you're asking me now
[57:59.620 --> 58:01.620]  They're refusing to show records
[58:01.620 --> 58:04.620]  And when we come back let's talk about grand juries
[58:04.620 --> 58:07.620]  This is my favorite subject
[58:07.620 --> 58:11.620]  And I'm sitting here looking at a book called
[58:11.620 --> 58:15.620]  Texas Legal Malpractice and Lawyer Discipline
[58:15.620 --> 58:19.620]  I haven't been able to find this kind of literature anywhere else
[58:19.620 --> 58:21.620]  And this is a 1990 book
[58:21.620 --> 58:26.620]  But we will look at this at what you can sue an attorney for
[58:26.620 --> 58:29.620]  And I think you'll like what we find here
[58:29.620 --> 58:35.620]  This is Randy Kelton, Eddie Craig, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio
[58:35.620 --> 58:39.620]  When we come back we're going to talk about grand juries
[58:39.620 --> 58:44.620]  And how to get attorneys' attention
[58:44.620 --> 58:47.620]  We'll come back on the other side
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[01:00:04.620 --> 01:00:08.620]  Barack Obama's Deficit Commission sparked universal criticism Wednesday
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[01:01:01.620 --> 01:01:06.620]  Over its intention to build 2,100 illegal new homes in the West Bank
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[01:02:27.620 --> 01:02:36.620]  A UN panel alleges North Korea has exported banned nuclear and ballistic missile technology to several rogue nations
[01:02:36.620 --> 01:02:42.620]  The 75 page report compiled for the UN Security Council states North Korea is involved in
[01:02:42.620 --> 01:02:48.620]  quote nuclear and ballistic missile related activities in Iran, Syria and Myanmar
[01:02:48.620 --> 01:03:14.620]  And that special attention should be given to inhibit such activities
[01:03:18.620 --> 01:03:23.620]  Yeah, a story for everyone to hear
[01:03:23.620 --> 01:03:27.620]  About how we're not going to live in fear
[01:03:27.620 --> 01:03:31.620]  Yeah, a story
[01:03:31.620 --> 01:03:36.620]  About how we're not going to live in fear
[01:03:36.620 --> 01:03:40.620]  How will I live by my mother's arms
[01:03:40.620 --> 01:03:43.620]  How will I live till either time
[01:03:43.620 --> 01:03:48.620]  I will live by my mother's arms
[01:03:48.620 --> 01:03:52.620]  As I live with this faith and with dogs
[01:03:52.620 --> 01:03:55.620]  I will aid my concern
[01:03:55.620 --> 01:03:58.620]  I will live by my mother's arms
[01:03:58.620 --> 01:04:03.620]  Yeah, I will live by my father's arms
[01:04:03.620 --> 01:04:06.620]  I will fill out his space
[01:04:06.620 --> 01:04:10.620]  I will live by my mother's arms
[01:04:10.620 --> 01:04:14.620]  Oh God, this world's expected
[01:04:14.620 --> 01:04:17.620]  They come to take this place
[01:04:17.620 --> 01:04:21.620]  I will live by my mother's arms
[01:04:21.620 --> 01:04:24.620]  Take a tiki every night to show your father enter
[01:04:24.620 --> 01:04:27.620]  Cheat all the parasites from around ya
[01:04:27.620 --> 01:04:30.620]  Cheat the people of Europe and leave the murderers
[01:04:30.620 --> 01:04:32.620]  Kiss them out the house because they cannot enter
[01:04:32.620 --> 01:04:35.620]  You're in water, cleansed hands only
[01:04:35.620 --> 01:04:38.620]  Only them could enter in God's house, you see
[01:04:38.620 --> 01:04:41.620]  I will live by my mother's arms
[01:04:41.620 --> 01:04:44.620]  How will I live by my father's arms
[01:04:44.620 --> 01:04:47.620]  How will I live by my mother's arms
[01:04:47.620 --> 01:04:50.620]  I will live by my mother's arms
[01:04:50.620 --> 01:04:53.620]  Oh God, this world's expected
[01:04:53.620 --> 01:04:56.620]  They come to take this place
[01:04:56.620 --> 01:04:59.620]  I will live by my mother's arms
[01:04:59.620 --> 01:05:02.620]  Take a tiki every night to show your father enter
[01:05:02.620 --> 01:05:05.620]  Cheat all the parasites from around ya
[01:05:05.620 --> 01:05:08.620]  Cheat the people of Europe and leave the murderers
[01:05:08.620 --> 01:05:37.620]  I will live by my mother's arms
[01:05:37.620 --> 01:05:42.620]  How are these individuals acting criminally
[01:05:42.620 --> 01:05:45.620]  as opposed to simply civil
[01:05:45.620 --> 01:05:54.620]  creating civil torts or contractual violations?
[01:05:54.620 --> 01:05:55.620]  Raymond?
[01:05:55.620 --> 01:05:58.620]  If I may, I'd like to just very quickly
[01:05:58.620 --> 01:06:01.620]  bring you up to date as to where the case is at
[01:06:01.620 --> 01:06:04.620]  I'm going to give you a real quick synopsis
[01:06:04.620 --> 01:06:07.620]  The original defense for the case was the motion
[01:06:07.620 --> 01:06:09.620]  to dismiss for statute of limitations
[01:06:09.620 --> 01:06:11.620]  but the plaintiffs had won that
[01:06:11.620 --> 01:06:13.620]  When the plaintiffs found their counsel
[01:06:13.620 --> 01:06:15.620]  was not representing them properly
[01:06:15.620 --> 01:06:18.620]  in the district court case and demanded that they do so
[01:06:18.620 --> 01:06:21.620]  their counsel abandoned the case and left them standing there
[01:06:21.620 --> 01:06:23.620]  so they became pro se plaintiffs, they had no choice
[01:06:23.620 --> 01:06:26.620]  They couldn't get representation for this case at this point
[01:06:26.620 --> 01:06:28.620]  and that's another story
[01:06:28.620 --> 01:06:31.620]  But they actually got to proving their case in the district court
[01:06:31.620 --> 01:06:33.620]  and they were demanding the evidence
[01:06:33.620 --> 01:06:35.620]  The judge, who we believe to be colluding
[01:06:35.620 --> 01:06:37.620]  with the defendant attorneys
[01:06:37.620 --> 01:06:39.620]  dismissed it on statute of limitations
[01:06:39.620 --> 01:06:41.620]  but the statute of limitations had been won
[01:06:41.620 --> 01:06:42.620]  at the beginning of the case
[01:06:42.620 --> 01:06:46.620]  so he disturbed the residue to cut the statute of limitations argument
[01:06:46.620 --> 01:06:48.620]  that it was at the beginning of the case
[01:06:48.620 --> 01:06:50.620]  So then it went to appeal
[01:06:50.620 --> 01:06:54.620]  and in the appeal, they denied the plaintiffs an appeal
[01:06:54.620 --> 01:06:58.620]  but did admit that they were in fact not discharged
[01:06:58.620 --> 01:07:01.620]  So now it's going to federal court
[01:07:01.620 --> 01:07:03.620]  with the original claims including now
[01:07:03.620 --> 01:07:08.620]  brought up on the court collusion and denial of due process
[01:07:08.620 --> 01:07:12.620]  What are the criminal accusations you'll be making
[01:07:12.620 --> 01:07:15.620]  and who will you be making them against?
[01:07:15.620 --> 01:07:17.620]  Well, they're being made against
[01:07:17.620 --> 01:07:20.620]  the first judge for inventing a term called
[01:07:20.620 --> 01:07:22.620]  effectively discharged
[01:07:22.620 --> 01:07:26.620]  and then fraudulently using the original BLA ruling
[01:07:26.620 --> 01:07:28.620]  from the federal case to deny them
[01:07:28.620 --> 01:07:31.620]  based on the theory that they were discharged
[01:07:31.620 --> 01:07:33.620]  when in fact they were not discharged, they were laid off
[01:07:33.620 --> 01:07:35.620]  Okay, okay
[01:07:35.620 --> 01:07:37.620]  Official oppression
[01:07:37.620 --> 01:07:39.620]  If a public official
[01:07:39.620 --> 01:07:41.620]  I'm quoting a Texas statute
[01:07:41.620 --> 01:07:45.620]  but it's been a while since I was in California
[01:07:45.620 --> 01:07:47.620]  but it is represented in California
[01:07:47.620 --> 01:07:50.620]  I don't remember what statute it is
[01:07:50.620 --> 01:07:53.620]  but it reflects 18 U.S. Code 242
[01:07:53.620 --> 01:07:56.620]  If a public official acting on the code of his authority
[01:07:56.620 --> 01:07:59.620]  fails to perform a duty he's required to perform
[01:07:59.620 --> 01:08:03.620]  or exercises or purports to exercise an authority
[01:08:03.620 --> 01:08:06.620]  that he does not expressly have
[01:08:06.620 --> 01:08:09.620]  that's a class A misdemeanor in Texas
[01:08:09.620 --> 01:08:11.620]  it's also a federal class A misdemeanor
[01:08:11.620 --> 01:08:16.620]  and I'm not sure exactly how the statutes are
[01:08:16.620 --> 01:08:19.620]  the nomenclature of the statutes in California
[01:08:19.620 --> 01:08:21.620]  but it's going to be a similar accusation
[01:08:21.620 --> 01:08:23.620]  a high level misdemeanor
[01:08:23.620 --> 01:08:26.620]  Well now wouldn't we need the district attorney
[01:08:26.620 --> 01:08:28.620]  or wouldn't we need
[01:08:28.620 --> 01:08:30.620]  I mean criminal charges are for the state
[01:08:30.620 --> 01:08:32.620]  not for our pro-state plaintiff, is that correct?
[01:08:32.620 --> 01:08:33.620]  Oh, no, no, okay, okay
[01:08:33.620 --> 01:08:34.620]  Here's how we do this
[01:08:34.620 --> 01:08:37.620]  This is the good part
[01:08:37.620 --> 01:08:43.620]  The state needs the cooperation of the citizens
[01:08:43.620 --> 01:08:46.620]  in the fight against crime
[01:08:46.620 --> 01:08:53.620]  The state needs citizens to report crimes to the state
[01:08:53.620 --> 01:08:56.620]  Los Angeles has Chinatown
[01:08:56.620 --> 01:09:00.620]  In China, China has been so corrupt
[01:09:00.620 --> 01:09:03.620]  that it is traditional that the Chinese people
[01:09:03.620 --> 01:09:06.620]  don't trust their government
[01:09:06.620 --> 01:09:09.620]  So if you go into Chinatown and somebody commits a crime
[01:09:09.620 --> 01:09:12.620]  they tend to take care of that themselves
[01:09:12.620 --> 01:09:14.620]  They do not want to talk to the police
[01:09:14.620 --> 01:09:19.620]  because they consider them a bigger threat than the criminals
[01:09:19.620 --> 01:09:22.620]  In the United States, we don't want that to happen
[01:09:22.620 --> 01:09:27.620]  We want the citizens to participate with the police
[01:09:27.620 --> 01:09:29.620]  in the fight against crime
[01:09:29.620 --> 01:09:34.620]  So we, in the United States, any person
[01:09:34.620 --> 01:09:38.620]  who has knowledge that a crime has been committed
[01:09:38.620 --> 01:09:40.620]  can report the crime
[01:09:40.620 --> 01:09:45.620]  If it is a felony and the person doesn't report the crime
[01:09:45.620 --> 01:09:48.620]  that's a crime in itself
[01:09:48.620 --> 01:09:53.620]  So if you must do something by statute
[01:09:53.620 --> 01:09:59.620]  you cannot receive any retribution or retaliation
[01:09:59.620 --> 01:10:03.620]  because of doing what you're required to do, report crime
[01:10:03.620 --> 01:10:11.620]  And in effect, the corpus juris absolutely protects the witness
[01:10:11.620 --> 01:10:15.620]  And when you report crime, you're simply a witness
[01:10:15.620 --> 01:10:18.620]  When you report crime, you harm no one
[01:10:18.620 --> 01:10:23.620]  Even if your report of crime is absolutely, completely
[01:10:23.620 --> 01:10:26.620]  totally without foundation
[01:10:26.620 --> 01:10:31.620]  In the reporting of crime, you harm no one
[01:10:31.620 --> 01:10:36.620]  You bring a criminal accusation to a magistrate
[01:10:36.620 --> 01:10:42.620]  and the magistrate will then examine into the sufficiency of the allegation
[01:10:42.620 --> 01:10:46.620]  And if the magistrate finds that the allegation is sufficient
[01:10:46.620 --> 01:10:49.620]  to give a reasonable person of ordinary reason to believe
[01:10:49.620 --> 01:10:51.620]  that crime has been committed
[01:10:51.620 --> 01:10:54.620]  and that the accused has committed the crime
[01:10:54.620 --> 01:11:01.620]  then the magistrate issues an order and a warrant
[01:11:01.620 --> 01:11:06.620]  in the form of a determination of probable cause
[01:11:06.620 --> 01:11:13.620]  Subject to that warrant, the person can be arrested and can experience harm
[01:11:13.620 --> 01:11:20.620]  But they cannot experience harm simply based on a citizen filing the complaint
[01:11:20.620 --> 01:11:22.620]  That doesn't do anything
[01:11:22.620 --> 01:11:27.620]  The only thing that could cause harm is that finding a probable cause
[01:11:27.620 --> 01:11:36.620]  And also, anyone testifying either before a court or a magistrate
[01:11:36.620 --> 01:11:44.620]  is absolutely, completely, totally immune from civil litigation, period
[01:11:44.620 --> 01:11:51.620]  If people could be sued for their testimony, no one would dare testify
[01:11:51.620 --> 01:11:58.620]  So if you get on the stand and you lie like a dog
[01:11:58.620 --> 01:12:02.620]  you cannot be sued, period
[01:12:02.620 --> 01:12:04.620]  Not a consideration
[01:12:04.620 --> 01:12:08.620]  Now, you can be prosecuted for perjury, but that's criminal
[01:12:08.620 --> 01:12:10.620]  You cannot be sued
[01:12:10.620 --> 01:12:15.620]  So when you go in and file a criminal complaint, you are absolutely protected
[01:12:15.620 --> 01:12:17.620]  And it's your duty
[01:12:17.620 --> 01:12:21.620]  And Randy, I wanted to make a comment about, just want to back up a second
[01:12:21.620 --> 01:12:23.620]  what you were saying a minute ago
[01:12:23.620 --> 01:12:27.620]  about when somebody reports a crime to the police or files a criminal complaint
[01:12:27.620 --> 01:12:30.620]  they can't be sued for libel or slander or anything like that
[01:12:30.620 --> 01:12:32.620]  because there's no harm done
[01:12:32.620 --> 01:12:37.620]  And the reason is because if a finding of probable cause is determined
[01:12:37.620 --> 01:12:40.620]  or if there's an indictment or if there's a trial
[01:12:40.620 --> 01:12:44.620]  the accused has a chance to vindicate him or herself
[01:12:44.620 --> 01:12:46.620]  Precisely
[01:12:46.620 --> 01:12:51.620]  That's different with libel and slander, like say, you know, something in print
[01:12:51.620 --> 01:12:54.620]  or something on the radio or something in the media
[01:12:54.620 --> 01:12:59.620]  because then the accused, quote unquote, doesn't have a chance to vindicate themselves
[01:12:59.620 --> 01:13:02.620]  and that's why there is potentially a civil tort in that matter
[01:13:02.620 --> 01:13:07.620]  But when it comes to criminal accusations, the accused has a chance to get the indictment
[01:13:07.620 --> 01:13:12.620]  Well, first off, if there's no finding of probable cause, then the accused is exonerated
[01:13:12.620 --> 01:13:17.620]  Even if there is an indictment, the accused has a chance to overturn and dismiss the indictment
[01:13:17.620 --> 01:13:21.620]  If the indictment stands, then there's always the trial
[01:13:21.620 --> 01:13:27.620]  So there's several chances along the way for the accused to vindicate him or herself
[01:13:27.620 --> 01:13:33.620]  and that's why there's no way that anybody can be held civilly liable
[01:13:33.620 --> 01:13:36.620]  for filing a criminal complaint or reporting a crime or testifying
[01:13:36.620 --> 01:13:38.620]  Exactly
[01:13:38.620 --> 01:13:42.620]  And, now, that's the legal position
[01:13:42.620 --> 01:13:46.620]  Now I'd like to go to the sovereign position
[01:13:46.620 --> 01:13:49.620]  You and I are the sovereigns
[01:13:49.620 --> 01:13:53.620]  and we may do anything we want to
[01:13:53.620 --> 01:13:57.620]  unless the law specifically forbids us to
[01:13:57.620 --> 01:14:06.620]  Our public officials, on the other hand, may only do what they are specifically authorized to do by statute
[01:14:06.620 --> 01:14:12.620]  If a public official attempts to restrict a sovereign citizen
[01:14:12.620 --> 01:14:16.620]  in the full and free access to or enjoyment of any right
[01:14:16.620 --> 01:14:21.620]  and that official does so without legal authority, that's a crime on their part
[01:14:21.620 --> 01:14:29.620]  So, what we do, what I suggest you do, is craft a criminal accusation
[01:14:29.620 --> 01:14:36.620]  against those individuals that you want to prosecute
[01:14:36.620 --> 01:14:45.620]  And if they're attorneys, you can be sure that the system is not going to want to turn on itself
[01:14:45.620 --> 01:14:56.620]  They consider themselves a special and outside the rules that govern the rest of us ordinary civilians
[01:14:56.620 --> 01:15:02.620]  Well, I bristle when I'm considered a civilian
[01:15:02.620 --> 01:15:06.620]  I've been in an occupied country, I've been in a war zone
[01:15:06.620 --> 01:15:10.620]  and there were the combatants and the civilians
[01:15:10.620 --> 01:15:14.620]  The civilians were just collateral damage
[01:15:14.620 --> 01:15:18.620]  I'm not a civilian, I am a sovereign
[01:15:18.620 --> 01:15:22.620]  Everybody works for me in the military
[01:15:22.620 --> 01:15:26.620]  I would stand over the general
[01:15:26.620 --> 01:15:31.620]  And if you don't believe it, go to a military base sometimes
[01:15:31.620 --> 01:15:38.620]  They treat civilians with an incredible level of deference
[01:15:38.620 --> 01:15:45.620]  Because they know, you give me some crapola, I'll go to the base commander and I'll crawl down his throat
[01:15:45.620 --> 01:15:49.620]  And when I get done with him, he's going to go to the squadron commander, he's going to go to your OIC
[01:15:49.620 --> 01:15:52.620]  He's going to go to your NCOIC
[01:15:52.620 --> 01:15:57.620]  And when your NCOIC gets to you, he's going to rip your lungs out
[01:15:57.620 --> 01:16:02.620]  So they understand, on a military base, they understand who the sovereign is
[01:16:02.620 --> 01:16:07.620]  And they only understand it because we're not subject to the military protocols
[01:16:07.620 --> 01:16:09.620]  We can go straight to the base commander and shoot him out
[01:16:09.620 --> 01:16:12.620]  Yeah, we're not in a martial law, folks
[01:16:12.620 --> 01:16:15.620]  And we're not in an occupied zone, okay
[01:16:15.620 --> 01:16:25.620]  This is civilian law enforcement here and the feds are training the police to call us civilians and treat us as civilians
[01:16:25.620 --> 01:16:28.620]  And it's totally disgusting, you can't put up with it
[01:16:28.620 --> 01:16:30.620]  We're not civilians, we're sovereigns
[01:16:30.620 --> 01:16:31.620]  That's exactly right
[01:16:31.620 --> 01:16:36.620]  And when I go to the grand jury, nobody better get in my way
[01:16:36.620 --> 01:16:40.620]  And we will go right into that, but you still have a lot of time here
[01:16:40.620 --> 01:16:45.620]  When we come back, I'll walk through a strategy for going to grand juries
[01:16:45.620 --> 01:16:47.620]  We've only got a couple callers left
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[01:16:53.620 --> 01:16:55.620]  We'll be right back on the other side
[01:16:55.620 --> 01:16:59.620]  We'll talk about the strategy for using grand juries
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[01:19:19.620 --> 01:19:25.620]  Okay, this is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Ada Craig, Rule of Law Radio
[01:19:25.620 --> 01:19:28.620]  We're back and talking about grand juries
[01:19:28.620 --> 01:19:34.620]  Okay, I went through a lot of stuff, a lot of setup in the last segment
[01:19:34.620 --> 01:19:41.620]  And it may have sounded like it wasn't terribly relevant, but I assure you it is
[01:19:41.620 --> 01:19:45.620]  Everything is about how you hold your mind
[01:19:45.620 --> 01:19:53.620]  If we are to be effective, we need to understand who we are and who they are
[01:19:53.620 --> 01:20:03.620]  We are the sovereigns, and once we understand that, we can become an incredibly powerful force
[01:20:03.620 --> 01:20:09.620]  First thing we do is we determine what criminal accusation we're going to make
[01:20:09.620 --> 01:20:12.620]  And then we look at a strategy
[01:20:12.620 --> 01:20:18.620]  It's not enough just to come down and write a bunch of words on a piece of paper and wave it at them
[01:20:18.620 --> 01:20:20.620]  You know, they get this all the time
[01:20:20.620 --> 01:20:25.620]  And they're very good at dealing with irate individuals
[01:20:25.620 --> 01:20:34.620]  If they can't schmooze them into going away, then they pull out their mucho macho crapola
[01:20:34.620 --> 01:20:37.620]  And try to frighten them into going away
[01:20:37.620 --> 01:20:42.620]  So, I'm suggesting a strategy
[01:20:42.620 --> 01:20:49.620]  What we do is we make up a complaint against the individual that we want prosecuted
[01:20:49.620 --> 01:20:53.620]  Then we go to the district attorney
[01:20:53.620 --> 01:20:59.620]  And we demand that the district attorney take our criminal complaint and act on it in accordance with law
[01:20:59.620 --> 01:21:03.620]  And prosecute these dirty rotten scoundrels
[01:21:03.620 --> 01:21:07.620]  Now, we don't want to sound too smart at this point
[01:21:07.620 --> 01:21:11.620]  Unless you have trouble getting to the prosecutor
[01:21:11.620 --> 01:21:17.620]  So, I'm going to take a little time here to kind of walk through the whole procedure
[01:21:17.620 --> 01:21:22.620]  When I go to file a criminal complaint, I generally do it against public officials
[01:21:22.620 --> 01:21:28.620]  In this case it's somewhat different, but if it were an attorney, they're close enough
[01:21:28.620 --> 01:21:31.620]  I make up two criminal complaints
[01:21:31.620 --> 01:21:37.620]  One of them I sign before a notary and have it notarized, the other I do not
[01:21:37.620 --> 01:21:40.620]  So, you go down to the prosecuting attorney's office
[01:21:40.620 --> 01:21:43.620]  And you ask to see a prosecutor
[01:21:43.620 --> 01:21:47.620]  And they'll ask you why you want to see the prosecutor, and you tell them
[01:21:47.620 --> 01:21:52.620]  Well, I've got these dirty rotten scoundrel lawyers, I want the prosecutor to prosecute
[01:21:52.620 --> 01:21:57.620]  And the prosecutor is absolutely not going to see you
[01:21:57.620 --> 01:22:00.620]  He's going to send out an investigator
[01:22:00.620 --> 01:22:06.620]  And the investigator will come out and he'll have a shiny little badge and pistol on his hip
[01:22:06.620 --> 01:22:09.620]  So, the first thing you want to say is
[01:22:09.620 --> 01:22:15.620]  Are you a prosecuting attorney? And he'll say, well, no, I'm not, I'm an investigator from the prosecutor's office
[01:22:15.620 --> 01:22:19.620]  Wonderful! You are just the guy I need to see
[01:22:19.620 --> 01:22:27.620]  I have this criminal accusation here that I need to file against some dirty rotten scoundrel attorneys
[01:22:27.620 --> 01:22:30.620]  And I want to sign this in your presence
[01:22:30.620 --> 01:22:33.620]  And I want you to verify this criminal affidavit for me
[01:22:33.620 --> 01:22:35.620]  Here, get out your pencil
[01:22:35.620 --> 01:22:39.620]  Here, I've got a pencil for you, hold this, I'm going to sign this, you watch me sign it
[01:22:39.620 --> 01:22:42.620]  And I'm going to want you to verify it
[01:22:42.620 --> 01:22:45.620]  And then you get to see the chicken dance
[01:22:45.620 --> 01:22:52.620]  Well, gee whiz, let me see, I need to go talk to the prosecutor
[01:22:52.620 --> 01:22:55.620]  Smart move, bubba
[01:22:55.620 --> 01:23:00.620]  So, he'll run back and tell the prosecutor, this guy's trying to get me to verify criminal accusation
[01:23:00.620 --> 01:23:03.620]  And that's when you'll generally get to see a prosecutor
[01:23:03.620 --> 01:23:07.620]  Because now you scared the crap out of the investigator
[01:23:07.620 --> 01:23:12.620]  And when the prosecutor comes out, he's going to want to see this complaint you want him to sign
[01:23:12.620 --> 01:23:18.620]  You want the investigator to sign
[01:23:18.620 --> 01:23:22.620]  Now, the investigator can do that because he's a certified police officer
[01:23:22.620 --> 01:23:26.620]  And certified police officers are authorized to verify criminal affidavits
[01:23:26.620 --> 01:23:32.620]  You could file a complaint with a police officer and he could verify your signature
[01:23:32.620 --> 01:23:35.620]  So, he's going to want to see this complaint
[01:23:35.620 --> 01:23:42.620]  Well, you don't give the prosecutor the complaint that you're going to give the investigator
[01:23:42.620 --> 01:23:47.620]  You give the prosecutor the one that's verified
[01:23:47.620 --> 01:23:54.620]  And once you put a verified criminal affidavit in the hand of the prosecutor
[01:23:54.620 --> 01:23:59.620]  You invoke a duty on the part of the prosecutor
[01:23:59.620 --> 01:24:07.620]  There is a difference between filing a verified criminal affidavit and complaining
[01:24:07.620 --> 01:24:10.620]  If you go to the police department to file a complaint
[01:24:10.620 --> 01:24:15.620]  They will provide for you a voluntary statement
[01:24:15.620 --> 01:24:19.620]  A voluntary statement is not a complaint
[01:24:19.620 --> 01:24:22.620]  Complaint is a term of art
[01:24:22.620 --> 01:24:26.620]  It is specifically defined in statute
[01:24:26.620 --> 01:24:29.620]  What the requisites of a complaint are
[01:24:29.620 --> 01:24:33.620]  You need to look at the requisites in California
[01:24:33.620 --> 01:24:37.620]  They're pretty well universal across the states
[01:24:37.620 --> 01:24:41.620]  If you look on jurisimprudence.com
[01:24:41.620 --> 01:24:44.620]  Top frog on the right
[01:24:44.620 --> 01:24:46.620]  Documents and research
[01:24:46.620 --> 01:24:49.620]  Click documents and research and then click blanks
[01:24:49.620 --> 01:24:52.620]  You'll find a criminal complaint in there
[01:24:52.620 --> 01:24:56.620]  It's a Texas formatted document
[01:24:56.620 --> 01:24:58.620]  But it's relatively consistent
[01:24:58.620 --> 01:25:03.620]  In that a complaint must run in the name of the state
[01:25:03.620 --> 01:25:07.620]  This says in the name of the state of Texas
[01:25:07.620 --> 01:25:11.620]  And it must state that
[01:25:11.620 --> 01:25:14.620]  Based on that you believe
[01:25:14.620 --> 01:25:17.620]  That you have reason to believe
[01:25:17.620 --> 01:25:21.620]  And do believe that this person committed
[01:25:21.620 --> 01:25:24.620]  Generally what they say is
[01:25:24.620 --> 01:25:27.620]  I have reason to believe and do believe
[01:25:27.620 --> 01:25:32.620]  That's kind of a key wordage
[01:25:32.620 --> 01:25:35.620]  I have reason to believe and I do believe
[01:25:35.620 --> 01:25:37.620]  Based on the following
[01:25:37.620 --> 01:25:42.620]  And then you do a simple statement of facts
[01:25:42.620 --> 01:25:49.620]  And therefore that honor before this date
[01:25:49.620 --> 01:25:53.620]  This person violated this criminal statute
[01:25:53.620 --> 01:25:56.620]  And that's basically what a criminal complaint needs in it
[01:25:56.620 --> 01:25:59.620]  And then you sign it before a notary
[01:25:59.620 --> 01:26:03.620]  And have the notary notarize it
[01:26:03.620 --> 01:26:06.620]  Or any police officer can notarize it
[01:26:06.620 --> 01:26:10.620]  Or any prosecutor attorney can verify it
[01:26:10.620 --> 01:26:14.620]  In law verification means notary
[01:26:14.620 --> 01:26:17.620]  Affirmation means signature
[01:26:17.620 --> 01:26:19.620]  So you take two with you
[01:26:19.620 --> 01:26:21.620]  You give one to the investigator
[01:26:21.620 --> 01:26:23.620]  When the prosecutor comes out
[01:26:23.620 --> 01:26:25.620]  You give him the one that's verified
[01:26:25.620 --> 01:26:28.620]  When you put the verified criminal complaint in his hand
[01:26:28.620 --> 01:26:30.620]  You're not complaining
[01:26:30.620 --> 01:26:37.620]  You have invoked his duty as a prosecuting attorney
[01:26:37.620 --> 01:26:42.620]  And you can be certain he's not going to exercise that duty
[01:26:42.620 --> 01:26:45.620]  At least you hope he doesn't
[01:26:45.620 --> 01:26:47.620]  And I know this is kind of counterintuitive
[01:26:47.620 --> 01:26:52.620]  Because we want to be the sovereign citizens we're told that we are
[01:26:52.620 --> 01:26:54.620]  And we want to go down there and get our public officials
[01:26:54.620 --> 01:26:59.620]  Our public servants to serve the way we expect them to serve
[01:26:59.620 --> 01:27:01.620]  When we tell them we want somebody prosecuted
[01:27:01.620 --> 01:27:02.620]  We want them prosecuted
[01:27:02.620 --> 01:27:04.620]  We don't want to crap about it
[01:27:04.620 --> 01:27:05.620]  And they won't do it
[01:27:05.620 --> 01:27:07.620]  So we tend to get upset, frustrated
[01:27:07.620 --> 01:27:11.620]  And feel like we've lost
[01:27:11.620 --> 01:27:14.620]  We don't want him to prosecute
[01:27:14.620 --> 01:27:17.620]  Now we're going to act like we do
[01:27:17.620 --> 01:27:19.620]  But we're setting him up
[01:27:19.620 --> 01:27:21.620]  So we give him the complaint
[01:27:21.620 --> 01:27:23.620]  He's going to refuse to act on it
[01:27:23.620 --> 01:27:25.620]  Wonderful
[01:27:25.620 --> 01:27:26.620]  We don't get upset
[01:27:26.620 --> 01:27:28.620]  We don't get angry
[01:27:28.620 --> 01:27:32.620]  And we don't fall into that trap
[01:27:32.620 --> 01:27:35.620]  Public officials
[01:27:35.620 --> 01:27:37.620]  Especially in the criminal area
[01:27:37.620 --> 01:27:41.620]  Police officers, clerks, prosecutors, judges
[01:27:41.620 --> 01:27:46.620]  Are very accustomed to dealing with confrontation
[01:27:46.620 --> 01:27:48.620]  They do it every day all day
[01:27:48.620 --> 01:27:50.620]  And to think you can go down there
[01:27:50.620 --> 01:27:53.620]  And get into a confrontation with them
[01:27:53.620 --> 01:27:54.620]  And win the confrontation
[01:27:54.620 --> 01:27:56.620]  You are naive
[01:27:56.620 --> 01:28:00.620]  You are out of your league
[01:28:00.620 --> 01:28:03.620]  So let's stay out of that area
[01:28:03.620 --> 01:28:05.620]  Let's go down and ask them to do something
[01:28:05.620 --> 01:28:09.620]  We absolutely do not want them to do
[01:28:09.620 --> 01:28:11.620]  But we have to ask them to do it
[01:28:11.620 --> 01:28:14.620]  In order to invoke their duty
[01:28:14.620 --> 01:28:15.620]  To actually do it
[01:28:15.620 --> 01:28:17.620]  And then when they don't
[01:28:17.620 --> 01:28:20.620]  Now we get to kick them in their teeth
[01:28:20.620 --> 01:28:24.620]  So when the prosecutor refuses to prosecute
[01:28:24.620 --> 01:28:26.620]  The individual you're complaining against
[01:28:26.620 --> 01:28:28.620]  What you do
[01:28:28.620 --> 01:28:30.620]  Is you make up a criminal complaint
[01:28:30.620 --> 01:28:35.620]  And send it to the highest level judge you can find
[01:28:35.620 --> 01:28:37.620]  Now I get a lot of people
[01:28:37.620 --> 01:28:39.620]  Who are concerned about the police
[01:28:39.620 --> 01:28:42.620]  Retaliating against them
[01:28:42.620 --> 01:28:46.620]  Now I seriously doubt
[01:28:46.620 --> 01:28:49.620]  That you could find anyone
[01:28:49.620 --> 01:28:55.620]  Who is more obnoxious and outrageous than me
[01:28:55.620 --> 01:28:58.620]  When I'm dealing with public officials
[01:28:58.620 --> 01:29:01.620]  I tend to crawl right down their throats
[01:29:01.620 --> 01:29:06.620]  I am arrogant and demanding and unreasonable
[01:29:06.620 --> 01:29:09.620]  And they hate me
[01:29:09.620 --> 01:29:12.620]  But I have never
[01:29:12.620 --> 01:29:16.620]  Ever been threatened with contempt to court
[01:29:16.620 --> 01:29:18.620]  Even when I'm standing in the courtroom
[01:29:18.620 --> 01:29:21.620]  And I say, Mr. Bailiff, did you hear that?
[01:29:21.620 --> 01:29:24.620]  The bailiff said, yes, Mr. Kelton, I did
[01:29:24.620 --> 01:29:26.620]  Drag that judge down off that bench
[01:29:26.620 --> 01:29:28.620]  Judge, you get off that bench
[01:29:28.620 --> 01:29:30.620]  You're disqualified
[01:29:30.620 --> 01:29:32.620]  I do that to them in court
[01:29:32.620 --> 01:29:35.620]  I've never had one threaten me
[01:29:35.620 --> 01:29:38.620]  Reason being, I am the sovereign
[01:29:38.620 --> 01:29:40.620]  I know I'm the sovereign
[01:29:40.620 --> 01:29:42.620]  And they know I know
[01:29:42.620 --> 01:29:45.620]  But when I come back, we'll go to the rest of the strategy
[01:29:45.620 --> 01:29:49.620]  Of how to use this position
[01:29:49.620 --> 01:29:51.620]  To force them
[01:29:51.620 --> 01:29:54.620]  To force the attorney to do what you want
[01:29:54.620 --> 01:30:09.620]  I'll be right back
[01:30:25.620 --> 01:30:28.620]  Who planted these bombs and why is the government lying about them?
[01:30:28.620 --> 01:30:31.620]  For more information, go to okcbombingtruth.com
[01:30:31.620 --> 01:30:37.620]  The Indian government may be wiping the smile off of Colgate's face
[01:30:37.620 --> 01:30:41.620]  Activists claim the toothpaste giant patented an ancient Indian recipe
[01:30:41.620 --> 01:30:43.620]  They've been using for thousands of years
[01:30:43.620 --> 01:30:46.620]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, I'll be back in a moment to tell you more
[01:30:46.620 --> 01:30:48.620]  Privacy is under attack
[01:30:48.620 --> 01:30:52.620]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again
[01:30:52.620 --> 01:30:57.620]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too
[01:30:57.620 --> 01:31:02.620]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance and keep your information to yourself
[01:31:02.620 --> 01:31:05.620]  Privacy, it's worth hanging on to
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[01:31:15.620 --> 01:31:18.620]  Is Colgate a copycat?
[01:31:18.620 --> 01:31:23.620]  Indian activists say the company's newly minted patent for tooth powder is an ancient recipe
[01:31:23.620 --> 01:31:25.620]  And they plan to fight it
[01:31:25.620 --> 01:31:26.620]  Colgate is brushing this off
[01:31:26.620 --> 01:31:29.620]  It claims a new twist on the traditional formula
[01:31:29.620 --> 01:31:32.620]  The patent calls for red iron oxide instead of red ochre
[01:31:32.620 --> 01:31:35.620]  But red ochre contains iron oxide
[01:31:35.620 --> 01:31:38.620]  The threatened patent challenge could have teeth
[01:31:38.620 --> 01:31:42.620]  In 1995, India fought U.S. efforts to patent turmeric
[01:31:42.620 --> 01:31:43.620]  India won
[01:31:43.620 --> 01:31:47.620]  In the meantime, India is documenting 30 million web pages worth of its ancient herbal formulas
[01:31:47.620 --> 01:31:53.620]  Officials hope this step will prevent companies like Colgate from patenting India's age-old recipes
[01:31:53.620 --> 01:31:54.620]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht
[01:31:54.620 --> 01:32:23.620]  More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com
[01:32:23.620 --> 01:32:24.620]  Okay, we're back
[01:32:24.620 --> 01:32:28.620]  Randy Kelton, Debra Stevenson, Craig, Google Law Radio
[01:32:28.620 --> 01:32:30.620]  And we're talking about grand juries
[01:32:30.620 --> 01:32:34.620]  And I know I used up a lot of time there
[01:32:34.620 --> 01:32:40.620]  And it may not be immediately apparent why all of that's important
[01:32:40.620 --> 01:32:47.620]  But the most important thing for us to do as individuals and activists
[01:32:47.620 --> 01:32:53.620]  Is to very carefully structure how we hold our mind
[01:32:53.620 --> 01:33:00.620]  And it is intuitive that we hold certain expectations from our public officials
[01:33:00.620 --> 01:33:04.620]  And when they violate those expectations, we tend to get frustrated and angry
[01:33:04.620 --> 01:33:09.620]  And we tend to act inappropriately
[01:33:09.620 --> 01:33:14.620]  It is important we understand that we are the sovereign
[01:33:14.620 --> 01:33:16.620]  They have duties
[01:33:16.620 --> 01:33:20.620]  And when they fail to perform those duties, we can kick their behinds
[01:33:20.620 --> 01:33:24.620]  So what I suggest we do is we make up the complaint
[01:33:24.620 --> 01:33:29.620]  And for the most part, I don't suggest that people go down to the prosecuting attorney's office
[01:33:29.620 --> 01:33:32.620]  I do that, but I have a lot of experience at it
[01:33:32.620 --> 01:33:36.620]  I've learned a whole lot
[01:33:36.620 --> 01:33:39.620]  I've got a lot of broken bones to show for
[01:33:39.620 --> 01:33:43.620]  The three-stove-in ribs, two-collar bones, broken elbow
[01:33:43.620 --> 01:33:45.620]  I know a lot of things not to do
[01:33:45.620 --> 01:33:49.620]  Most people don't have that kind of experience
[01:33:49.620 --> 01:33:55.620]  So I suggest that you make up a criminal complaint and send it to the prosecuting attorney
[01:33:55.620 --> 01:34:00.620]  And when the prosecuting attorney doesn't act on it, wonderful
[01:34:00.620 --> 01:34:04.620]  Because then we get to go to the district judge
[01:34:04.620 --> 01:34:10.620]  We want to find the highest judge that we can, the highest-level judge
[01:34:10.620 --> 01:34:13.620]  There's something you need to understand about the system
[01:34:13.620 --> 01:34:20.620]  The police, the clerks, defense counsel, prosecutors
[01:34:20.620 --> 01:34:25.620]  Everybody is terrified of judges
[01:34:25.620 --> 01:34:29.620]  Judges can screw everybody in the system
[01:34:29.620 --> 01:34:31.620]  And everybody's afraid of the judges
[01:34:31.620 --> 01:34:36.620]  And the judges have reveled in this kind of fear
[01:34:36.620 --> 01:34:43.620]  And they have come to the point that they consider themselves to be next to Godhood
[01:34:43.620 --> 01:34:45.620]  We need to fix that
[01:34:45.620 --> 01:34:49.620]  And the way we do it is to set them up
[01:34:49.620 --> 01:34:54.620]  What they know, what the higher level the judge
[01:34:54.620 --> 01:34:58.620]  The more they're aware of their vulnerability
[01:34:58.620 --> 01:35:04.620]  The highest-level judge in the district knows that every other judge in the district wants his position
[01:35:04.620 --> 01:35:08.620]  And the higher-level judges are elected
[01:35:08.620 --> 01:35:12.620]  So bad press is really bad for them
[01:35:12.620 --> 01:35:21.620]  Now, they have a lot of control over police, clerks, defense counsel, and prosecutors
[01:35:21.620 --> 01:35:26.620]  What they have no control over is the sovereign citizen
[01:35:26.620 --> 01:35:34.620]  I tell people in my seminars when I walk into a courtroom, a courthouse, I am the baddest motor scooter in the building
[01:35:34.620 --> 01:35:38.620]  There's only one reason I'm the baddest motor scooter in the building
[01:35:38.620 --> 01:35:41.620]  It's not that I'm the sovereign
[01:35:41.620 --> 01:35:46.620]  It's that I understand that I am the sovereign
[01:35:46.620 --> 01:35:53.620]  And everybody in that building works for me, especially the highest-level judge in the building
[01:35:53.620 --> 01:35:58.620]  And I am not the least bit bashful about climbing down his throat
[01:35:58.620 --> 01:36:07.620]  Because what I found out in doing this is he is very well aware of the danger I pose for his position
[01:36:07.620 --> 01:36:21.620]  A singular, ordinary citizen who understands the power he has is the most frightening thing to walk into the judge's chambers or into his courtroom
[01:36:21.620 --> 01:36:26.620]  He knows it. He hopes that we don't know it
[01:36:26.620 --> 01:36:28.620]  You need to understand that
[01:36:28.620 --> 01:36:34.620]  So when the prosecutor refuses to act on your criminal complaint, wonderful
[01:36:34.620 --> 01:36:42.620]  Then we make up a complaint against the prosecuting attorney and we send it to the highest-level judge in the district
[01:36:42.620 --> 01:36:45.620]  And then he will refuse to act on it
[01:36:45.620 --> 01:36:52.620]  He'll tell you, oh, well, you need to take this to a justice of the peace or someone else
[01:36:52.620 --> 01:36:58.620]  I bushwhacked Bob Perkins, head criminal district judge for Travis County
[01:36:58.620 --> 01:37:02.620]  I understand just a couple of weeks ago he retired
[01:37:02.620 --> 01:37:05.620]  I hated to see that. I really liked this guy
[01:37:05.620 --> 01:37:08.620]  It was the day before yesterday
[01:37:08.620 --> 01:37:12.620]  Is that right? He was a really pleasant individual
[01:37:12.620 --> 01:37:15.620]  I bushwhacked him in his courtroom
[01:37:15.620 --> 01:37:21.620]  And the way I do it is I walk into the courtroom, nice suit, nice tie, red folder
[01:37:21.620 --> 01:37:28.620]  I walk up to the bar, look around for the bailiff, point at the bailiff, you, come here
[01:37:28.620 --> 01:37:30.620]  They hate that
[01:37:30.620 --> 01:37:33.620]  I summon the bailiff over, I tell the bailiff, my name is Randall Kelton
[01:37:33.620 --> 01:37:35.620]  I always tell them my name first
[01:37:35.620 --> 01:37:38.620]  If you're ever in the courtroom, courthouse, and you're dealing with public officials
[01:37:38.620 --> 01:37:41.620]  First thing you do is tell them what your name is
[01:37:41.620 --> 01:37:45.620]  You don't want any crapola of them asking you for identification
[01:37:45.620 --> 01:37:49.620]  This is who I am. They ask me for ID, I show it to them
[01:37:49.620 --> 01:37:52.620]  I don't get into that argument about I don't have to show it
[01:37:52.620 --> 01:37:54.620]  I show it to them immediately
[01:37:54.620 --> 01:37:56.620]  Because I have other issues
[01:37:56.620 --> 01:37:58.620]  So I tell them my name is Randall Kelton
[01:37:58.620 --> 01:38:02.620]  Instruct the judge that I have business with the court
[01:38:02.620 --> 01:38:07.620]  And I assure you, for the bailiff, that will be a pattern interruption
[01:38:07.620 --> 01:38:11.620]  He does not get that often
[01:38:11.620 --> 01:38:16.620]  And they have consistently always said the same thing
[01:38:16.620 --> 01:38:21.620]  May I tell the judge the nature of your business?
[01:38:21.620 --> 01:38:24.620]  And I consistently say the same thing
[01:38:24.620 --> 01:38:26.620]  No, you may not
[01:38:26.620 --> 01:38:29.620]  I have business with the court and it's none of yours
[01:38:29.620 --> 01:38:33.620]  You're dismissed, I walk away, I go sit down
[01:38:33.620 --> 01:38:38.620]  Now you gotta know that the bailiff is not a happy camper
[01:38:38.620 --> 01:38:42.620]  He wants to reach across the bar and grab me by the throat
[01:38:42.620 --> 01:38:45.620]  And squeeze me till my eyes bug out
[01:38:45.620 --> 01:38:48.620]  But it's not his courtroom, it's the judge's
[01:38:48.620 --> 01:38:50.620]  And he knows better than to do that
[01:38:50.620 --> 01:38:52.620]  Actually, it's our courtroom
[01:38:52.620 --> 01:38:55.620]  Well, as far as the bailiff is concerned
[01:38:55.620 --> 01:38:57.620]  The judge is the one that runs the courtroom
[01:38:57.620 --> 01:39:00.620]  You're right, it is my courtroom
[01:39:00.620 --> 01:39:05.620]  And we very generously allow the judge to administer it
[01:39:05.620 --> 01:39:10.620]  According to our rules, so you are exactly right
[01:39:10.620 --> 01:39:13.620]  So the bailiff is going to run up to the judge
[01:39:13.620 --> 01:39:17.620]  And this is exactly what they did in Bob Perkins' case
[01:39:17.620 --> 01:39:22.620]  If you decide you're gutsy enough to do this
[01:39:22.620 --> 01:39:26.620]  Pick a time when the judge is holding motion hearings
[01:39:26.620 --> 01:39:30.620]  Because there's lots of breaks, it takes like 30 seconds to do most of these motions
[01:39:30.620 --> 01:39:33.620]  They're just kind of perfunctory
[01:39:33.620 --> 01:39:39.620]  So it's not like they're selecting a jury or they're cross-examining witnesses in a trial
[01:39:39.620 --> 01:39:42.620]  Where there's no breaks, here's the concept of breaks
[01:39:42.620 --> 01:39:46.620]  When you hammer the bailiff
[01:39:46.620 --> 01:39:48.620]  And he runs up to the judge and tells the judge
[01:39:48.620 --> 01:39:51.620]  There's a jerk out here that tells me I have business
[01:39:51.620 --> 01:39:55.620]  And he won't tell me what it is, he tells me it's none of my business
[01:39:55.620 --> 01:39:58.620]  The judge is going to want to know what is going on
[01:39:58.620 --> 01:40:03.620]  And he looks out there and he sees some jerk out there holding up a red folder
[01:40:03.620 --> 01:40:07.620]  And something about red, human beings just can't help it
[01:40:07.620 --> 01:40:10.620]  They've got to know what's in it
[01:40:10.620 --> 01:40:15.620]  So the judge will almost always finish whatever motion he's hearing
[01:40:15.620 --> 01:40:20.620]  And in this case, Judge Perkins said, Mr. Colton, I understand you have business with the court
[01:40:20.620 --> 01:40:25.620]  Yes, Your Honor, I do, may I approach and I hold up the folder
[01:40:25.620 --> 01:40:29.620]  What that means is, can I give you this folder?
[01:40:29.620 --> 01:40:33.620]  And he will either direct the bailiff to come and retrieve it
[01:40:33.620 --> 01:40:36.620]  Which normally happens or he'll call you up to his desk
[01:40:36.620 --> 01:40:39.620]  Which Bob Perkins did
[01:40:39.620 --> 01:40:42.620]  So I came up to his desk and I handed him the folder, he opened it up
[01:40:42.620 --> 01:40:46.620]  He's looking at criminal complaints against the district attorney
[01:40:46.620 --> 01:40:54.620]  Accusing the district attorney of secreting criminal complaints from all the highest judges in Texas from the grand jury
[01:40:54.620 --> 01:40:57.620]  The judge looked down at that document
[01:40:57.620 --> 01:41:01.620]  Looked up at me with this look that said
[01:41:01.620 --> 01:41:05.620]  You scoundrel, you bushwhacked me
[01:41:05.620 --> 01:41:10.620]  And I looked back with this little grin that said, yes I did
[01:41:10.620 --> 01:41:14.620]  You don't have to go in court to do that
[01:41:14.620 --> 01:41:20.620]  When the prosecuting attorney refuses to perform his duty
[01:41:20.620 --> 01:41:23.620]  And prosecute the accused
[01:41:23.620 --> 01:41:29.620]  Then you accuse the prosecuting attorney of obstruction of justice
[01:41:29.620 --> 01:41:34.620]  Okay, now the prosecutor is going to claim that he has prosecutorial discretion
[01:41:34.620 --> 01:41:38.620]  In our complaint we will say yes he does
[01:41:38.620 --> 01:41:41.620]  But in this case he did not exercise prosecutorial discretion
[01:41:41.620 --> 01:41:44.620]  He exercised caprice in that
[01:41:44.620 --> 01:41:47.620]  He did not determine whether or not there was sufficient evidence
[01:41:47.620 --> 01:41:52.620]  To believe a crime had been committed and that the person accused had committed that crime
[01:41:52.620 --> 01:41:59.620]  What he did instead was decided who he wanted to prosecute and who he didn't want to bother with
[01:41:59.620 --> 01:42:03.620]  And that is not an authority that he has
[01:42:03.620 --> 01:42:07.620]  So we charge him with obstruction of justice and give it to the judge
[01:42:07.620 --> 01:42:15.620]  Well, you can be certain the judge is not going to pursue prosecuting his own prosecuting attorney
[01:42:15.620 --> 01:42:20.620]  Then we go to the grand jury
[01:42:20.620 --> 01:42:25.620]  Now we make up a complaint against the district judge
[01:42:25.620 --> 01:42:36.620]  Accused the district judge of misfeasance in office by failing to perform his magisterial duty
[01:42:36.620 --> 01:42:40.620]  When I dropped these complaints on Bob Perkins, he read them and he said
[01:42:40.620 --> 01:42:42.620]  Well, Mr. Kelton, these are criminal complaints
[01:42:42.620 --> 01:42:44.620]  I said yes, Your Honor, they are
[01:42:44.620 --> 01:42:48.620]  Well, Mr. Kelton, district judges in Travis County don't take criminal complaints
[01:42:48.620 --> 01:42:50.620]  I said that's okay, Your Honor
[01:42:50.620 --> 01:42:53.620]  I'm not here to invoke your duty as a district judge
[01:42:53.620 --> 01:42:57.620]  I'm here to invoke your duty as a magistrate
[01:42:57.620 --> 01:43:02.620]  And that's a duty from which you may not shield yourself
[01:43:02.620 --> 01:43:10.620]  And that's exactly the position the judge is in because every judge is a magistrate
[01:43:10.620 --> 01:43:12.620]  Magistrate only has three things he can do
[01:43:12.620 --> 01:43:17.620]  He can marry people and they put that in so he can make a little extra money
[01:43:17.620 --> 01:43:22.620]  They set magistrates all around the county because the intended person was arrested for any reason
[01:43:22.620 --> 01:43:26.620]  They are to be taken directly to the nearest magistrate
[01:43:26.620 --> 01:43:32.620]  And the magistrate would hear the complaint and make a determination of probable cause
[01:43:32.620 --> 01:43:34.620]  This is what the judge had a duty to do
[01:43:34.620 --> 01:43:39.620]  If he doesn't do it, he filed against him with the grand jury
[01:43:39.620 --> 01:43:47.620]  When you go to the grand jury and file against the judge, who's going to interfere with you?
[01:43:47.620 --> 01:43:50.620]  I took a little longer than I meant to
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[01:46:21.620 --> 01:46:32.620]  Okay, this is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Andy Craig, Rule of Law Radio
[01:46:32.620 --> 01:46:38.620]  And I know it took longer than I meant to, but this is really important that we understand the steps here
[01:46:38.620 --> 01:46:42.620]  File with a district attorney, he'll refuse to act
[01:46:42.620 --> 01:46:44.620]  File with a district judge, he'll refuse to act
[01:46:44.620 --> 01:46:49.620]  Then go to the grand jury with a complaint against the district judge
[01:46:49.620 --> 01:46:55.620]  Accusing the district judge of shielding the prosecuting attorney from prosecution
[01:46:55.620 --> 01:47:03.620]  Because the district attorney refused to prosecute the one you originally accused
[01:47:03.620 --> 01:47:07.620]  When you go to the grand jury, and here you need to go down to the court
[01:47:07.620 --> 01:47:12.620]  When the grand jury is going to be sitting, you find out which judge impaneled the grand jury
[01:47:12.620 --> 01:47:16.620]  Talk to his coordinator or his clerk or whatever they call them
[01:47:16.620 --> 01:47:19.620]  The one who keeps the calendar for the judge
[01:47:19.620 --> 01:47:24.620]  And ask that person when the grand jury is scheduled to next meet
[01:47:24.620 --> 01:47:27.620]  If it's a large jurisdiction, they'll meet all the time
[01:47:27.620 --> 01:47:30.620]  You go down to the court when the grand jury is meeting
[01:47:30.620 --> 01:47:33.620]  And you go to the room where the grand jury meets
[01:47:33.620 --> 01:47:38.620]  And there will be a surly-looking bailiff standing in front of the grand jury room
[01:47:38.620 --> 01:47:42.620]  And you tell the bailiff, you tell him your name
[01:47:42.620 --> 01:47:46.620]  And start performing that I have business with the grand jury
[01:47:46.620 --> 01:47:48.620]  And he'll say, may I tell the nature of the business?
[01:47:48.620 --> 01:47:49.620]  Yeah, give him these
[01:47:49.620 --> 01:47:54.620]  And you have a folder for each grand jury member
[01:47:54.620 --> 01:48:00.620]  And what the bailiff will do invariably is call the prosecuting attorney
[01:48:00.620 --> 01:48:03.620]  And ask the prosecuting attorney what to do
[01:48:03.620 --> 01:48:06.620]  And then you file against the bailiff for obstruction of justice
[01:48:06.620 --> 01:48:12.620]  Your complaints implicate the district attorney
[01:48:12.620 --> 01:48:17.620]  You want to be able to file complaints against an innocent party
[01:48:17.620 --> 01:48:21.620]  They will scream the loudest
[01:48:21.620 --> 01:48:23.620]  And when the judge finds out
[01:48:23.620 --> 01:48:26.620]  Now you're not going to get to the grand jury and you hope you don't
[01:48:26.620 --> 01:48:29.620]  Because if you get to the grand jury, there's just no bill
[01:48:29.620 --> 01:48:34.620]  It's really hard to get a grand jury to indict a public official
[01:48:34.620 --> 01:48:37.620]  Doing what the public official thinks he's authorized to do
[01:48:37.620 --> 01:48:40.620]  So you don't want to actually get before the grand jury
[01:48:40.620 --> 01:48:44.620]  You just want to go down and make grand jury noises
[01:48:44.620 --> 01:48:50.620]  Because probably within seconds the district judge is going to know
[01:48:50.620 --> 01:48:54.620]  That you're down there trying to get him indicted
[01:48:54.620 --> 01:48:58.620]  For not prosecuting the district attorney
[01:48:58.620 --> 01:49:02.620]  And the district judge is not going to be a happy camper
[01:49:02.620 --> 01:49:05.620]  Because he is essentially innocent in this matter
[01:49:05.620 --> 01:49:08.620]  He's going to go to the only one he has control over
[01:49:08.620 --> 01:49:10.620]  And ask the prosecutor and he's going to say
[01:49:10.620 --> 01:49:12.620]  What the heck is going on here?
[01:49:12.620 --> 01:49:14.620]  I don't prosecute you
[01:49:14.620 --> 01:49:16.620]  Now they're trying to get me thrown out of office
[01:49:16.620 --> 01:49:19.620]  If I get an indictment, I'm removed from office immediately
[01:49:19.620 --> 01:49:22.620]  All court warrant removal
[01:49:22.620 --> 01:49:25.620]  His career is over
[01:49:25.620 --> 01:49:27.620]  So he is not going to be happy
[01:49:27.620 --> 01:49:31.620]  And he's going to let the prosecutor know that he is not happy
[01:49:31.620 --> 01:49:34.620]  Do something, make this go away
[01:49:34.620 --> 01:49:38.620]  And what do you think the prosecutor is going to say
[01:49:38.620 --> 01:49:42.620]  To the attorney that you're trying to get to prosecute
[01:49:42.620 --> 01:49:45.620]  You better fix this Bubba
[01:49:45.620 --> 01:49:51.620]  I'm not having the district judge come down on me because of you
[01:49:51.620 --> 01:49:54.620]  This is how we use politics
[01:49:54.620 --> 01:49:57.620]  Now, I've taken a lot longer than I meant to
[01:49:57.620 --> 01:50:00.620]  We have Raymond, I'd like to hang on
[01:50:00.620 --> 01:50:03.620]  We have two callers with quick questions
[01:50:03.620 --> 01:50:05.620]  I'll come back to you if I can
[01:50:05.620 --> 01:50:08.620]  But I hope I've answered most of your questions
[01:50:08.620 --> 01:50:10.620]  Okay, we're going to go to Mitchell in Texas
[01:50:10.620 --> 01:50:12.620]  Mitchell, thank you for calling in
[01:50:12.620 --> 01:50:13.620]  What is your question?
[01:50:13.620 --> 01:50:15.620]  Okay, I'll try to be quick
[01:50:15.620 --> 01:50:18.620]  I've got a non-refundable airline ticket
[01:50:18.620 --> 01:50:22.620]  And to use the ticket, you know, like we've all heard
[01:50:22.620 --> 01:50:23.620]  Over the past couple weeks
[01:50:23.620 --> 01:50:28.620]  There's some pretty extreme security measures
[01:50:28.620 --> 01:50:34.620]  And also with the whole federal insanity that's going on
[01:50:34.620 --> 01:50:37.620]  To me, it seems like there's almost increased
[01:50:37.620 --> 01:50:38.620]  The likelihood of an incident
[01:50:38.620 --> 01:50:41.620]  So short story, I don't want to use the ticket
[01:50:41.620 --> 01:50:44.620]  Unfortunately, it's a non-refundable ticket
[01:50:44.620 --> 01:50:48.620]  I've contacted the airline and they basically by email
[01:50:48.620 --> 01:50:54.620]  Denied and verbally denied the demand for an exception to their rules
[01:50:54.620 --> 01:50:58.620]  So my question is, with it seeming like the only way
[01:50:58.620 --> 01:51:03.620]  I can use this sort of properly commerce ticket
[01:51:03.620 --> 01:51:07.620]  Is either to subject myself to a potential threat
[01:51:07.620 --> 01:51:09.620]  That I don't want to, obviously
[01:51:09.620 --> 01:51:14.620]  Or subject myself, if I was wanting to take the flight
[01:51:14.620 --> 01:51:17.620]  Subject myself to a higher radiation dose
[01:51:17.620 --> 01:51:19.620]  Than I really want to take
[01:51:19.620 --> 01:51:24.620]  Or waive my constitutionally Texas and United States protected rights
[01:51:24.620 --> 01:51:27.620]  Against unreasonable search and seizure
[01:51:27.620 --> 01:51:30.620]  Physically assaulted, all that kind of stuff
[01:51:30.620 --> 01:51:35.620]  So to me, obviously, it seems I've got good cause
[01:51:35.620 --> 01:51:40.620]  And that they should just grant this and sell the ticket to someone else for a higher price
[01:51:40.620 --> 01:51:42.620]  Last question
[01:51:42.620 --> 01:51:44.620]  Let me just spit this out
[01:51:44.620 --> 01:51:49.620]  My question is, what recommendations would you have
[01:51:49.620 --> 01:51:56.620]  Either for a cause of action or seeking an injunction to get some type of remedy?
[01:51:56.620 --> 01:51:58.620]  Go ahead, Eddie
[01:51:58.620 --> 01:52:01.620]  Okay, first thing is, when you purchased the ticket
[01:52:01.620 --> 01:52:04.620]  Did it tell you up front that it was a non-refundable ticket?
[01:52:04.620 --> 01:52:07.620]  Yes, absolutely it did
[01:52:07.620 --> 01:52:15.620]  Now my next question is, is when a thunderstorm comes through your neighborhood, do you go hide under your bed?
[01:52:15.620 --> 01:52:23.620]  Because that's the gist of what most of these security warnings they post out there amount to
[01:52:23.620 --> 01:52:24.620]  It's fear mongering
[01:52:24.620 --> 01:52:29.620]  And you're walking right into it just as big as they could wish for
[01:52:29.620 --> 01:52:34.620]  Okay, they're controlling everything that we do or want to do by fear mongering on us
[01:52:34.620 --> 01:52:40.620]  And making it look like we should be avoiding exercising our rights to do anything
[01:52:40.620 --> 01:52:44.620]  Because they're trying to protect us and we should give them up so they can
[01:52:44.620 --> 01:52:49.620]  Right, and yeah, obviously we don't want them to sort of win on that count
[01:52:49.620 --> 01:52:51.620]  And believe me, I'm fully on board with that
[01:52:51.620 --> 01:52:53.620]  That's not the airline's fault, okay?
[01:52:53.620 --> 01:52:55.620]  That's not the airline's fault
[01:52:55.620 --> 01:52:58.620]  The issue here is you're wanting to know what to do with the ticket
[01:52:58.620 --> 01:53:00.620]  Either use it or lose it
[01:53:00.620 --> 01:53:05.620]  Here's what I suggest just quickly because we're running out of time here
[01:53:05.620 --> 01:53:07.620]  And we've got one more call that we want to take
[01:53:07.620 --> 01:53:11.620]  I suggest that you go and try to fly
[01:53:11.620 --> 01:53:16.620]  And if they try to make you go through the naked body scanner, say no
[01:53:16.620 --> 01:53:18.620]  And if they try to
[01:53:18.620 --> 01:53:21.620]  Yes, you can refuse that, let me finish
[01:53:21.620 --> 01:53:25.620]  You can refuse that, but then what they want to do is that they want to
[01:53:25.620 --> 01:53:32.620]  With women, they want to grab and horrendously, painfully squeeze their breasts
[01:53:32.620 --> 01:53:37.620]  And twist them to make sure that if there's breast implants that are not bombs
[01:53:37.620 --> 01:53:38.620]  This is the new policy
[01:53:38.620 --> 01:53:42.620]  And men and women both get their genitals squeezed so hard that it hurts
[01:53:42.620 --> 01:53:47.620]  Okay, so what I suggest is that if they pull you out of the line for the naked body scanner
[01:53:47.620 --> 01:53:48.620]  You say no
[01:53:48.620 --> 01:53:51.620]  And when they say, okay, well, then now it's time for the pat down
[01:53:51.620 --> 01:53:52.620]  You say no
[01:53:52.620 --> 01:53:55.620]  And then say, I guess I'm not going to fly
[01:53:55.620 --> 01:54:03.620]  And then you get to sue the airline and TSA for restricting your right to travel
[01:54:03.620 --> 01:54:05.620]  This is what my friend Phil Wiseman is doing
[01:54:05.620 --> 01:54:07.620]  We've had him on the show before
[01:54:07.620 --> 01:54:14.620]  And actually now he's got two groups that are volunteering to represent his case
[01:54:14.620 --> 01:54:17.620]  Right, and I fully sort of understand that
[01:54:17.620 --> 01:54:23.620]  Unfortunately, with some situations like that, you need capital or something behind you
[01:54:23.620 --> 01:54:28.620]  Or you need to have the option of not flying
[01:54:28.620 --> 01:54:31.620]  And unfortunately, I don't have
[01:54:31.620 --> 01:54:33.620]  I mean, I've got to be somewhere at a certain date
[01:54:33.620 --> 01:54:38.620]  Listen, all you need is leverage, toy letter
[01:54:38.620 --> 01:54:43.620]  You send them a toy letter, the airport's going to roll over
[01:54:43.620 --> 01:54:46.620]  Elaborate quickly
[01:54:46.620 --> 01:54:51.620]  You just sent a letter to the airline saying you were unable to make this flight
[01:54:51.620 --> 01:54:58.620]  Because the unreasonable demands of TSA that they denied you your rights
[01:54:58.620 --> 01:55:01.620]  And that they acted in accordance with the
[01:55:01.620 --> 01:55:06.620]  They acted with acceptance and collusion with the airline
[01:55:06.620 --> 01:55:09.620]  So they denied you the right to fly, almost certainly
[01:55:09.620 --> 01:55:11.620]  And threatens to sue them if they don't give you a refund
[01:55:11.620 --> 01:55:14.620]  But listen, we've got literally two and a half minutes left
[01:55:14.620 --> 01:55:15.620]  Mitchell, why don't you call back in
[01:55:15.620 --> 01:55:17.620]  We can talk about this some more on Monday
[01:55:17.620 --> 01:55:18.620]  Thanks, guys
[01:55:18.620 --> 01:55:20.620]  Okay, we've got Jen in text
[01:55:20.620 --> 01:55:22.620]  I'm not sure how to pronounce the name
[01:55:22.620 --> 01:55:23.620]  Jen, thank you
[01:55:23.620 --> 01:55:25.620]  What is your question?
[01:55:25.620 --> 01:55:26.620]  I'm on air
[01:55:26.620 --> 01:55:28.620]  Yes, what is your question?
[01:55:28.620 --> 01:55:29.620]  We're running out of time
[01:55:29.620 --> 01:55:31.620]  About speeding tickets
[01:55:31.620 --> 01:55:38.620]  I was on 35 going 70 on 60 speed limit
[01:55:38.620 --> 01:55:41.620]  But simple, he wrote me a ticket
[01:55:41.620 --> 01:55:46.620]  And you know, right, that portion where they write like violation
[01:55:46.620 --> 01:55:49.620]  There's two portions of that
[01:55:49.620 --> 01:55:51.620]  So on your portion
[01:55:51.620 --> 01:55:53.620]  Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait
[01:55:53.620 --> 01:55:57.620]  I don't mean to interrupt, but you're starting in the wrong place
[01:55:57.620 --> 01:56:01.620]  You're going to the merits
[01:56:01.620 --> 01:56:03.620]  Whether you were speeding or not
[01:56:03.620 --> 01:56:10.620]  If you go to the merits in court to go to rule against you every time
[01:56:10.620 --> 01:56:13.620]  The policeman is going to come in there and testify
[01:56:13.620 --> 01:56:16.620]  And tell the judge anything he wants to tell him
[01:56:16.620 --> 01:56:20.620]  And the judge will accept what the policeman says
[01:56:20.620 --> 01:56:25.620]  And pay no attention to what you say at rule against you out of hand
[01:56:25.620 --> 01:56:29.620]  Yeah, but my question is actually when he wrote the ticket
[01:56:29.620 --> 01:56:34.620]  He wrote like where they write alleged speed
[01:56:34.620 --> 01:56:37.620]  He was 65, like where I was going
[01:56:37.620 --> 01:56:40.620]  He not down 5, so
[01:56:40.620 --> 01:56:42.620]  No, you don't understand
[01:56:42.620 --> 01:56:44.620]  It doesn't make any difference
[01:56:44.620 --> 01:56:47.620]  No, but the next thing I'm going to tell you
[01:56:47.620 --> 01:56:51.620]  With the speed limit portion, he wrote 70
[01:56:51.620 --> 01:56:54.620]  I'll tell you, it's not going to make a difference
[01:56:54.620 --> 01:56:59.620]  Well, no, wait, Randy, he's saying that he cited him for traveling less than the posted speed limit
[01:56:59.620 --> 01:57:01.620]  Oh, Reagan, I missed that
[01:57:01.620 --> 01:57:05.620]  Fine, hang on to that ticket, hang him out to dry
[01:57:05.620 --> 01:57:09.620]  He said you were doing 60 in a 70 instead of 70 in a 60
[01:57:09.620 --> 01:57:11.620]  Exactly
[01:57:11.620 --> 01:57:13.620]  Here's your problem
[01:57:13.620 --> 01:57:18.620]  He's going to come into the court and say that he made a mistake
[01:57:18.620 --> 01:57:21.620]  That you were actually doing 70 in a 60
[01:57:21.620 --> 01:57:25.620]  And the court's going to say, you're right, okay
[01:57:25.620 --> 01:57:30.620]  Now, the courts are corrupt, you have to understand that
[01:57:30.620 --> 01:57:35.620]  If you go to the merits at all, they're going to blow you out
[01:57:35.620 --> 01:57:39.620]  If you go in there and say you were actually doing 60 in a 70
[01:57:39.620 --> 01:57:45.620]  They're going to ask, what was the speed limit that day in that particular place?
[01:57:45.620 --> 01:57:48.620]  Oh, it's actually 60?
[01:57:48.620 --> 01:57:49.620]  Yeah
[01:57:49.620 --> 01:57:52.620]  Here's your evidence
[01:57:52.620 --> 01:57:55.620]  Here's the other problem though
[01:57:55.620 --> 01:58:03.620]  If they do not correct the ticket and you go before the judge on the day of trial
[01:58:03.620 --> 01:58:08.620]  And they're using that as they always do as the complaint
[01:58:08.620 --> 01:58:12.620]  Then they violated your right to due process because you're entitled to have a copy of that complaint
[01:58:12.620 --> 01:58:16.620]  No later than one day prior to the trial on the merit
[01:58:16.620 --> 01:58:21.620]  Exactly, go to due process, don't get seduced into going to the merits
[01:58:21.620 --> 01:58:26.620]  Send me an email with your phone number and I'll object with you tomorrow
[01:58:26.620 --> 01:58:30.620]  Well also, John, listen, Monday nights is our traffic night
[01:58:30.620 --> 01:58:34.620]  Okay, so why don't you call in Monday night and we'll discuss this more, okay?
[01:58:34.620 --> 01:58:38.620]  Okay, and where do I get Eddie's number or email address?
[01:58:38.620 --> 01:58:44.620]  You need to go to ruleoflawradio.com and you can click on the contacts link and get his email there
[01:58:44.620 --> 01:58:47.620]  Alright, we are out of time folks, thank you for joining us
[01:58:47.620 --> 01:58:49.620]  We will be back on Monday night
[01:58:49.620 --> 01:58:53.620]  This is the Rule of Law Radio Show, Randy Kelton, Eddie Craig, and Deborah Stevens
[01:58:53.620 --> 01:59:20.620]  Ruleoflawradio.com, have a blessed weekend
[01:59:23.620 --> 01:59:27.620]  I'm about to chop you, I'm about to chop you from the beginning
[01:59:27.620 --> 01:59:32.620]  I'm like a stepping eraser, don't watch my eyes
[01:59:32.620 --> 01:59:36.620]  I'm dangerous, I'm dangerous
[01:59:36.620 --> 01:59:40.620]  I'm like a stepping eraser, don't watch my eyes
[01:59:40.620 --> 01:59:43.620]  I'm dangerous, dangerous
[01:59:43.620 --> 01:59:58.620]  I'm like a stepping eraser, don't watch my eyes