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[03:06.400 --> 03:14.400]  512-646-1984. We've got Brian from Pennsylvania next. Brian thanks for calling in. What's on
[03:14.400 --> 03:20.880]  your mind tonight? Hi there. I want a half hour too. I got questions. Okay go ahead. All right.
[03:22.160 --> 03:28.880]  Well I am questioning, I have four particular questions if I can get to them all great.
[03:28.880 --> 03:38.800]  All right. I am looking to challenge the standing of the alleged counsel for the named plaintiff
[03:38.800 --> 03:48.080]  in an action and I was hoping for some constructive suggestions. Can I ask that you repeat that
[03:48.080 --> 03:53.840]  question one more time? All right. I'm looking for some constructive suggestions on how to
[03:53.840 --> 04:01.360]  challenge the standing of an alleged attorney for the named plaintiff. It is my suspicion
[04:02.000 --> 04:09.920]  that the plaintiff does not know of the action. Whether or not it is through contract it's
[04:09.920 --> 04:14.320]  possible that the creditor contracted with this attorney. You challenge agency.
[04:14.320 --> 04:23.920]  Does that follow motion? Challenging agency. Challenging agency. Yes agency cannot be proven
[04:23.920 --> 04:29.360]  out of the mouth of the agent. It must be proven out of the mouth of the principal.
[04:30.080 --> 04:37.760]  So the agent can't come into the court with a document allegedly signed by the principal
[04:37.760 --> 04:47.600]  and say this establishes my agency. You can say that's hearsay. That it is a document
[04:47.600 --> 04:54.480]  that gives evidence, gives prima facie evidence that he has an agent but it's no proof and he
[04:54.480 --> 05:03.360]  must prove it. So bring the principal. So what would prove it? Pardon me? What would prove it
[05:03.360 --> 05:14.640]  then letterhead of the principal? No they've got to come to court. He's rearing down on that bench
[05:14.640 --> 05:23.920]  on the witness chair and you get to examine him. Okay so even from an evidentiary hearing
[05:23.920 --> 05:34.400]  that's not conclusive enough? No that's not an affidavit is not evidence. It's hearsay. Okay.
[05:34.960 --> 05:41.840]  They have to bring the person who signed the affidavit and have them testify that they actually
[05:41.840 --> 05:50.320]  signed this and then what's on it's true. So now would that turn into a non-joinder or mis-joinder
[05:50.320 --> 06:00.160]  of necessary party? That doesn't go to joinder. No. No joinder is where you tie two together.
[06:01.200 --> 06:06.320]  Tie two plaintiffs of two or two litigants of two separate cases together into one case.
[06:09.200 --> 06:15.520]  What would be the better phrase then or the appropriate phrase? It goes to subject matter
[06:15.520 --> 06:25.680]  jurisdiction because the person claiming agency is it is unable to invoke the subject matter
[06:25.680 --> 06:33.280]  jurisdiction of the court and if you treat it that way it the court will likely take it a lot
[06:33.280 --> 06:40.880]  more serious because if you show lack of subject matter jurisdiction the judge is subject to suit
[06:40.880 --> 06:48.720]  personally. He's certainly not going to like that. Okay.
[06:52.160 --> 06:57.680]  Next I'd like to thank you for that. I'd like to inquire as if you guys are familiar with the
[06:58.320 --> 07:05.040]  concept of non-qualified or qualified foreign business corporation you know acting for
[07:05.040 --> 07:10.800]  profit within a state that are foreign to that state being a foreign business corporation and.
[07:12.560 --> 07:20.880]  I am a foreign corporation has to be licensed to do business in the state if they're not.
[07:20.880 --> 07:26.960]  By certificate of authority. Not only licensed but they have to be registered with the secretary
[07:26.960 --> 07:36.560]  of state as well. In good standing currently. If they're not they can't come into court. Right.
[07:37.440 --> 07:42.720]  If you sue them in the state and they're doing business in the state we have this issue with
[07:42.720 --> 07:48.160]  WAMU in California. They're not registered to do business in California but they were doing
[07:48.160 --> 07:55.440]  business in California. So you sue them in California and they send an attorney to represent them and
[07:55.440 --> 08:03.920]  the judge is throwing them out of the courthouse. No standing. The only way they can get standing
[08:03.920 --> 08:11.760]  before California court is to be registered to do business in California. And that goes to the
[08:11.760 --> 08:17.360]  basic principle that they haven't been contributing from a tax base to participate in the privileges
[08:17.360 --> 08:26.240]  of court procedure. Exactly. I just want to kind of make sure I'm clear on what I think I know but
[08:27.760 --> 08:32.320]  some of it sometimes is things that you know are things that I have gaps with and I want to
[08:32.320 --> 08:38.960]  make sure I've got things put together well enough. I hate it when I get in court
[08:38.960 --> 08:49.680]  and I get caught on a technicality that I missed. So I appreciate that. Right. Okay. Well I guess
[08:51.040 --> 08:57.120]  and actually while reading here while I was listening or you know on hold I think I answered
[08:57.120 --> 09:06.000]  my own question about variance. I scored a couple standard practice manuals for Pennsylvania and I'm
[09:06.000 --> 09:12.480]  really loving them. And I was unsure about what variance really was but I guess it's just
[09:13.360 --> 09:19.360]  a difference between pleadings and proof and the pleading is not really being proof to the subject
[09:19.360 --> 09:28.000]  matter at hand. Does that sound correct? That's correct. The pleading is not proof and it can't
[09:28.000 --> 09:35.920]  be proof. You can offer support, offer evidence in support of the pleading. I would say that
[09:35.920 --> 09:45.520]  I was reading about Rehnquist, Supreme Court Justice Rehnquist, a biography of him and they
[09:45.520 --> 09:52.880]  mentioned that Rehnquist would get a motion filed by one of his aides. He would go through it and
[09:52.880 --> 09:59.520]  take out everything that was argument out of the motion and I thought that was interesting.
[09:59.520 --> 10:07.120]  And in my later studies it's clear that he's right. In the motion you state what you want,
[10:07.680 --> 10:12.240]  the law in support of what you want and ask the judge to give you what you want and then you
[10:12.240 --> 10:18.320]  support that with other documents, with an affidavit in support or a memorandum of law.
[10:18.880 --> 10:25.680]  You do all your argument and explanation there not in the motion itself. It's interesting though
[10:25.680 --> 10:32.240]  in Pennsylvania because the way the preliminary objection rule is structured, the motion isn't
[10:32.240 --> 10:40.960]  supposed to include that. That is filed afterward at a closer date to the preliminary hearing
[10:42.000 --> 10:49.920]  by a brief. And that's generally a good practice. I'm surprised that it's required that way in
[10:49.920 --> 10:54.480]  Pennsylvania. Generally, you file your motion and you don't want them to know what all your arguments
[10:54.480 --> 11:03.360]  in support are. So you bring those with you later. The civil courts don't allow surprise,
[11:04.480 --> 11:14.400]  but we still want to ambush as much as we can get away with. No ambush doesn't mean we give them
[11:14.400 --> 11:21.200]  the whole enchilada. So you have to make all your claims, but you don't have to make all your
[11:21.200 --> 11:28.800]  arguments ahead of time. Now, if I could go back to the challenging standing or challenging agency,
[11:31.440 --> 11:39.760]  in trying to shoot holes in my own argument, it would almost seem that it would place an undue
[11:39.760 --> 11:48.640]  burden on the agent or the plaintiff to have to jump through such hoops to just prove that their
[11:48.640 --> 11:55.520]  attorney is really their attorney. Well, I guess if it really is that elementary, then it shouldn't
[11:55.520 --> 12:02.720]  be a problem for them to prove up. Well, see, the problem is it's not elementary. Anybody could come
[12:02.720 --> 12:09.920]  into court, if they didn't have to prove it, and say, this guy owes me money for this mortgage on
[12:09.920 --> 12:16.960]  this house. And then the court, by his story, award the guy the money. And then six months later,
[12:16.960 --> 12:20.720]  the real owner comes along and says, what's the problem here? You haven't been paying me.
[12:21.600 --> 12:26.080]  And then is the court going to give you back all that money that they forced you to pay?
[12:26.080 --> 12:35.440]  So that's incredibly important. First thing you have to do is make absolutely sure that the person
[12:35.440 --> 12:42.960]  claiming to have agency actually does, or it puts you at great risk. Because if they're not
[12:42.960 --> 12:48.000]  representing the real party in interest, then I could be opening myself up to suit in the future.
[12:48.800 --> 12:51.680]  Yeah, you could, you know, the court's going to tell you too bad,
[12:51.680 --> 12:57.040]  if the real guy comes along and proves up his agency, then you have to pay the guy that's the,
[12:58.000 --> 13:02.960]  that really owned the debt to start with. So yeah, this is real important.
[13:02.960 --> 13:08.560]  Yeah, but I think I remember, I think I remember seeing a rule in, I don't know the rule off the
[13:08.560 --> 13:14.800]  top of my head, but it is a, the rules of procedure is that there is then an affirmative defense
[13:14.800 --> 13:21.600]  in that case to alleviate you of that burden.
[13:23.120 --> 13:29.600]  So you, well, even so, it works an undue
[13:31.920 --> 13:38.960]  burden on the person that actually owned the debt. If you would be relieved of the debt for
[13:38.960 --> 13:47.200]  paying the wrong person, who's going to give remedy to the person that legitimately held the debt?
[13:47.200 --> 13:51.200]  Yeah, I don't see how that would fly. I just really don't see how that would fly, Brian.
[13:51.200 --> 13:52.000]  Okay.
[13:52.000 --> 13:53.200]  I mean, because-
[13:53.200 --> 13:55.600]  They may have some other contingencies for that.
[13:55.600 --> 14:02.400]  Well, I mean, look, just because some con artist comes along and manages to swindle, you know, a
[14:02.400 --> 14:10.320]  debtor and the courts, I don't see how that would get the debtor off the hook from actually paying
[14:11.280 --> 14:17.200]  or discharging the debt to the real creditor. I mean, it's just too bad that everyone got taken
[14:17.200 --> 14:21.920]  in by a con artist. I don't see how, I mean, just because a con artist comes along, I mean,
[14:21.920 --> 14:26.640]  like Randy was saying, then there would be no remedy for that.
[14:26.640 --> 14:32.320]  Just because a con artist comes along, I mean, like Randy was saying, then there would be no remedy for
[14:32.320 --> 14:41.760]  the creditor. I mean, if someone signed a contract with an entity, well, then you own the money,
[14:41.760 --> 14:46.960]  you know, and just because you get swindled, well, that's just your problem. You still owe
[14:46.960 --> 14:53.760]  the money to the real creditor. I mean, an agent has to prove up agency, and the only way that can
[14:53.760 --> 15:01.920]  happen is that the principal has to vouch for the agent and say, yes, I authorized this entity to
[15:01.920 --> 15:10.000]  represent me. Yeah. But I think Brian's probably right in, at least in this regard, the courts
[15:10.720 --> 15:16.880]  can be wrong. They can get bad information and they can make this error. So I suspect there is
[15:16.880 --> 15:28.480]  some contingency in law for when the court errors in this way, but it's prudent to do everything
[15:28.480 --> 15:35.520]  you can to avoid that error. And when it comes to standing, that's the most important thing you have
[15:35.520 --> 15:42.960]  to establish. So yeah, I think, yeah, they should have to jump through hoops. And if I hire an
[15:42.960 --> 15:52.400]  attorney and he goes to court to represent me, the court's going to require I show up at least once.
[15:55.040 --> 16:00.800]  And by doing that, I establish agency for the attorney. Once I've shown up, and generally it's
[16:00.800 --> 16:08.480]  the first hearing that all the litigants have to show up. And that establishes the agency of
[16:08.480 --> 16:15.680]  their representatives. And if you get in a criminal situation and you hire an attorney,
[16:16.640 --> 16:18.560]  first appearance, you're going to have to be there.
[16:21.280 --> 16:23.360]  They're not going to let your attorney do that for you. And
[16:28.880 --> 16:36.480]  any other questions? Yes, please. There was a hearing. Oh boy. Music.
[16:36.480 --> 16:41.680]  That's okay. Stay on the line, Brian. Okay. Wait a minute. He only gets 15 minutes. He
[16:41.680 --> 16:45.600]  don't get a half an hour. Okay. Let him have a little bit more time. And callers, if you like
[16:45.600 --> 16:53.440]  to call in 512-646-1984. This is the rule of law. We will be right back.
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[19:11.280 --> 19:20.080]  All right, call on his name once again. Miracles, you know he works, my friend. All right, we're going back to Brian in Pennsylvania. Okay, Brian, go ahead.
[19:20.080 --> 19:49.840]  Okay, close it more. There was a hearing that didn't go well. During that hearing, the other party didn't show. And pursuant to the rules, they were supposed to file a brief five days prior. If they weren't able to show up in person, they were to request my permission to submit on brief, which they didn't do either.
[19:49.840 --> 20:13.120]  The judge, it appears as though the judge wanted to participate in an ex parte hearing that I objected to. However, there was no court reporter present, and that violates 42 P.S.P., Pennsylvania Consolidated Statute Section 321, which I did object to.
[20:13.120 --> 20:39.360]  However, it doesn't really matter because I objected to no record. And shame on me for not, you know, trying to find local court reporters, which I plan on doing in the future. But I just wanted to know about this. I am allowed by the rules to plead over my preliminary objections. And I'm wondering if you have a suggestion on where you would put those objections in the motion.
[20:39.360 --> 20:44.160]  Oh, I got several places I'd recommend putting them, but you'd have to get them to bend over first.
[20:44.160 --> 20:47.600]  I knew that was coming somehow.
[20:47.600 --> 20:54.400]  And I'd drive them in with my boot. But that's just me. I'm a Texas guy. What can I say?
[20:54.400 --> 21:11.440]  But now that is something that I must bring up or should put in another document or put in a specific section, maybe at the end before the verification, just so it could at least be formally on the record in some way?
[21:11.440 --> 21:38.800]  If you think it'll help. Yeah, if you need the objection, I would put it early in. If you're filing this document over your objection, I would put that in as a disclaimer in the first paragraph in the motion and, you know, notice the court that this is being filed over your objection.
[21:38.800 --> 21:43.600]  So that way it's in the public record and never go away.
[21:43.600 --> 22:02.240]  Right. Okay. Kind of what I was going for, but I wasn't exactly sure if I would want to put it towards the end before the verification or towards the front just after the notice to plead and that sort of thing.
[22:02.240 --> 22:14.640]  All right. Cool. And thank you for your time. Have a good evening and pray and try to be positive.
[22:14.640 --> 22:16.640]  Wait a minute. Wait a minute. You got another 10 minutes.
[22:16.640 --> 22:18.640]  No, I'm good.
[22:18.640 --> 22:20.640]  Thank you, Brian, so much for calling in.
[22:20.640 --> 22:22.640]  Yep. Take care.
[22:22.640 --> 22:35.440]  Okay. And next we're going to Charlie in Texas. And after that we have open phone lines. Callers, if you'd like to call in, 512-646-1984. Charlie, thanks for calling in. What's on your mind?
[22:35.440 --> 23:03.840]  Well, I am a Texas physician. I practiced primary care medicine in Victoria for 26 years. And three years ago I became a whistleblower about the Texas Medical Board and uncovered quite a bit of corruption after the president of my state professional organization refused to help private physicians with some issues we had with insurance companies.
[23:03.840 --> 23:20.640]  And on February 6th I testified before the whole board about the crimes of its current medical director, not medical director, executive director about which I had personal knowledge.
[23:20.640 --> 23:50.240]  And two weeks later I got noticed that they were going to suspend my medical license. And on March 24th they suspended my medical license with no new complaints about me and no new information on any old complaints, although they have kept complaints open about me on trivial matters for about five years ever since I became a whistleblower at them.
[23:50.240 --> 24:06.640]  And I now don't have a way to support myself. And my 26-year-old practice in Victoria has been destroyed. And this is happening over Texas.
[24:06.640 --> 24:15.840]  I've heard of this before. Somehow somebody needs to sue the board.
[24:15.840 --> 24:32.640]  Well, somebody is suing the board. The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons has sued them in federal court and has named them as the worst medical board in the country. I'm a member of that organization.
[24:32.640 --> 24:38.440]  What did they say they were sanctioning you for?
[24:38.440 --> 25:08.240]  Well, during the process of blowing the whistle, they recruited, I believe, and I've got circumstantial evidence to support this, but I believe that they recruited Texas Department of Public Safety to do a shakedown of me while I was on my way to a national meeting of my national profession.
[25:08.240 --> 25:19.040]  I was in a professional organization to confront the president of the Texas Academy of Family Physicians about his conflicts of interest in Blue Cross Blue Shield.
[25:19.040 --> 25:45.440]  And at that shakedown, I was stopped on Highway 59 North going to Houston Intercontinental Airport. And I was going 74 miles an hour in a 65-mile-per-hour lane. And the officer tailgated me to run my plate, turned on his lights and siren when he tailgated me at 74 miles an hour.
[25:45.440 --> 26:02.240]  And he shook me up quite a bit during that aggressive behavior and refused to accept my request to go to a lighted area, which would be important.
[26:02.240 --> 26:19.240]  And I told him that I wasn't comfortable with opening the window and getting out for him like he'd requested. And I said, I'm going to go to the next town, and you follow me.
[26:19.240 --> 26:39.240]  And so I started heading toward Wharton from Victoria very slowly and carefully with my lights flashing. And he called another officer, and the other officer pulled me over while we were proceeding in a very safe manner.
[26:39.240 --> 26:58.240]  And this officer threatened to break into my car and remove my force if I didn't roll down the window. And I told him, if you do that, I'm out of here. And he started to do that just as an 18-wheeler was about to be upon me, a speeding 18-wheeler in my lane.
[26:58.240 --> 27:11.240]  And I didn't see the 18-wheeler, and I pulled out right in front of him and came very close to being killed. And that really shook me up. And I floored my car at that point.
[27:11.240 --> 27:28.240]  I really lost my thoughts, wasn't thinking straight. And for 93 seconds, according to the video, I went at speeds over 100 miles an hour to escape what I thought was an attempt on my life.
[27:28.240 --> 27:44.240]  And so out of that incident, the Texas Department of Public Safety filed three felony charges against me. One of them was aggravated assault of a law enforcement officer.
[27:44.240 --> 28:05.240]  They said I tried to kill the officer, but I didn't. I was trying to. He wasn't in my line of my driveway. My bird's on my shoulder, sorry. But I drove away, and I have to put my bird up.
[28:05.240 --> 28:11.240]  How did they say you tried to kill this officer by running him over with a car or what?
[28:11.240 --> 28:16.240]  I was supposed to try to run him over with a car, but he was not in my pathway.
[28:16.240 --> 28:20.240]  The car moves when the cop's even looking at it, they try to charge you.
[28:20.240 --> 28:41.240]  The cop moved toward my car, according to the video. We've got the video of it. The cop moved toward my car, put his hand on my car as I was beginning my drive away slowly. And I didn't try to run over him.
[28:41.240 --> 29:01.240]  The cop that moved toward my car was shouting to me and the second officer to stop that there was traffic coming. And that was when the, and I didn't, it didn't register to me what he was saying, and I pulled out right in front of the 18-wheeler.
[29:01.240 --> 29:07.240]  This is why, this is why we have a right to pull over in a safe place.
[29:07.240 --> 29:17.240]  Well, we don't have that right. I've been unable to find that in writing anywhere in any state.
[29:17.240 --> 29:22.240]  Well, wait a minute, we were just discussing this earlier. Eddie, you were saying something about that.
[29:22.240 --> 29:26.240]  Well, I didn't, one of the other callers did.
[29:26.240 --> 29:43.240]  Okay. Yeah, I was concerned about that because I've never seen it. And Metta was talking about it. And I think she was addressing it as a matter of a natural light because I have never seen that in law either.
[29:43.240 --> 29:47.240]  Okay, listen, hang on the line, Shirley. We'll get right back to you on the other side, okay?
[29:47.240 --> 29:48.240]  Okay.
[29:48.240 --> 30:02.240]  Okay, we'll be right back. We've got Steve from Montana, Ken from Texas. We'll be taking your calls on the other side. We're going to go back to Shirley as soon as we get on the other side of the break. We'll be right back.
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[31:16.240 --> 31:41.240]  Mm hmm. Yeah, I want. Oh, I want. I won't let you pull the wool over my eyes.
[31:41.240 --> 32:06.240]  Refuse your nose. Also, I've been lying. It seems you like the face, but please take some words to the wise. Stop trying to pull the wool over my eyes.
[32:06.240 --> 32:19.240]  OK, we are back. We're speaking with Shirley in Texas. OK, Randy, Eddie, do one of y'all want to make a comment here before we go back to Shirley?
[32:19.240 --> 32:24.240]  No, let Shirley go ahead. She was still giving us. OK, go ahead, Shirley.
[32:24.240 --> 32:53.240]  Well, this is a very, very long, complicated story and involves corruption in several different Texas agencies. But the things that have affected my patients are that as of March 25th, 2009, I no longer had a medical practice after 26 years of primary care medicine, a private primary care medicine.
[32:53.240 --> 33:11.240]  And the medical board forced me to abandon all of my patients overnight. And as far as what it's done to me, I now stay at home. I don't have any way to support myself.
[33:11.240 --> 33:38.240]  And I do have an attorney, but he doesn't seem to be particularly in any hurry to help me get my medical license back. Supposedly, the reason that they suspended my license, they released a, they sent a press release to the Victoria Advocate stating that based on, well, they didn't say what it was based on, but they said that I was mentally impaired.
[33:38.240 --> 33:46.240]  And that my conduct was unprofessional and disloyal.
[33:46.240 --> 33:52.240]  Have you? Yeah, but so far these are just charges against you. You haven't actually been convicted of anything.
[33:52.240 --> 34:16.240]  I was in a felony trial. I was acquitted in the aggravated assault charges, but I was convicted of two charges of fleeing arrest with a deadly weapon. And the Porton County District Attorney seized my car September 29th, 2007, and they still have it.
[34:16.240 --> 34:18.240]  Seized your car?
[34:18.240 --> 34:22.240]  That was the deadly weapon.
[34:22.240 --> 34:24.240]  Oh, boy.
[34:24.240 --> 34:26.240]  Randy?
[34:26.240 --> 34:34.240]  Well, there is a problem that you left the scene.
[34:34.240 --> 34:51.240]  I told them that I would because I was frightened. I realized that in every state there are two components of a crime, a mens rea or a guilty mind and an actus reus, the guilty act.
[34:51.240 --> 35:03.240]  There's no doubt that I committed the act, but my mindset was not to flee arrest. My mindset was to go to safety.
[35:03.240 --> 35:13.240]  And in a perfect world, good chance that would be a viable plea. But we're in a totally corrupt system.
[35:13.240 --> 35:16.240]  I know that.
[35:16.240 --> 35:42.240]  Okay. I just got a Skype chat from our call screener that said that Meta called in. I'm trying to get the case citations right now, but she says that there are Supreme Court rulings regarding roadside safety of police pulling people over, and there are Supreme Court rulings regarding safety of women and I guess all individuals regarding rape and murder on the roadside by fake police.
[35:42.240 --> 35:44.240]  Yeah, these weren't fake police.
[35:44.240 --> 35:52.240]  Yes, but that's not the point. The point is you don't know it could be somebody that murdered a cop and stole his car and put his suit on.
[35:52.240 --> 36:07.240]  Okay. And the point is that we actually do have the right, according to Meta, to wait until we pull over, to wait until it is a safe place, what we deem safe, well lit with other people around, that is our right.
[36:07.240 --> 36:14.240]  Okay. There is one other thing that I'd like to interject to you and something that we need to work on changing.
[36:14.240 --> 36:19.240]  I looked and I couldn't find them and neither did any of my lawyers.
[36:19.240 --> 36:28.240]  Okay. Well, Meta is saying that this is a, this is case law, court case rulings, not necessarily statute. Go ahead, Eddie, you were saying something?
[36:28.240 --> 36:42.240]  Yeah, and that is, you know, when the officers are engaged in an unlawful act to begin with, one of the problems we have in Texas law is that we're not allowed to resist an unlawful act by an official actor.
[36:42.240 --> 36:59.240]  And right off the bat, I find that a problem because, you know, the law says in several places that if he's using force greater than is necessary to subdue you and blah, blah, blah, then you have the right to defend yourself and so on and so forth.
[36:59.240 --> 37:13.240]  But they never allow you to do that. Whatsoever. He just threatened me, he threatened me with arrest before he told me why he stopped me.
[37:13.240 --> 37:24.240]  And, but he did, he did, you know, after he threatened me with the arrest, he did tell me that I was going 74 and a 65 mile per hour zone, which I knew that was what my cruise controller set off.
[37:24.240 --> 37:29.240]  Wait a minute, wait a minute. He can't arrest you for that.
[37:29.240 --> 37:34.240]  Yeah, not only can he not arrest you, but he can't apply that to you.
[37:34.240 --> 38:02.240]  Well, that's what he said. And the whole, the situation alarmed me. He acted afraid, which the way he tailgated me, I was also, I was in the process of passing another vehicle on with cruise control on.
[38:02.240 --> 38:19.240]  I wasn't speeding up to pass another vehicle. I was just in the process of passing it and he tailgated me and turned on his lights and his siren at 74 miles an hour and called in my license plate to dispatch.
[38:19.240 --> 38:42.240]  And their video, which they produced in court, started with the dispatcher giving back my name. It did not start with the lights and siren coming on, which is what triggers the camera in Department of Public Safety vehicles in Texas.
[38:42.240 --> 38:56.240]  So part of their video was missing and the DA failed to produce that even though I filed a motion to compel production of it and the judge granted the motion.
[38:56.240 --> 39:08.240]  The DA in Wharton County ignored that motion. I mean ignored that the judge granted the motion.
[39:08.240 --> 39:21.240]  That's kind of standard practice. The judges just seem to be out of, lack control of their own courtrooms and they lack the will to take control back.
[39:21.240 --> 39:34.240]  Yeah. The next hearing I filed a motion to hold the DA in contempt of court and the judge denied that motion.
[39:34.240 --> 39:52.240]  Randy, you had another issue that we were discussing on the break and, you know, going back to pulling over in a safe place and that is concerning the fact that, Charlie, perhaps, well, if it was me, I would have just not pulled over at all until I got to a safe place.
[39:52.240 --> 40:07.240]  But the fact that you did pull over and then attempted to leave and did leave the scene, that kind of puts you in a vulnerable position concerning the law. Is that correct, Randy?
[40:07.240 --> 40:30.240]  Explain how the first stop happened. I was going 74 miles an hour on speed control. I was beginning to pass a vehicle on my right. This was a four lane highway and the officer turned on his lights and siren when he was less than a car length behind me.
[40:30.240 --> 40:45.240]  I had no idea he was after me. I thought, I'm going to get the heck out of the way here. I'm going to go over to the median and stop. I turned to the median immediately to give him room to get by me.
[40:45.240 --> 41:00.240]  And I was listening to a CD and I didn't even cut off my CD. I expected him to go zoom in by me and when he didn't, I turned it off and turned around and looked and he was parked 300 feet behind me.
[41:00.240 --> 41:12.240]  I believe if we had the original video that it probably would have shown him backing up because that's the only way he could have gotten that far back.
[41:12.240 --> 41:29.240]  I guess what I'm trying to say is the fact that you pulled over and stopped at all, even if you didn't think it was because he was pulling over to stop you, the fact that you stopped your car at all could be a problem instead of you just slowing down and pulling over.
[41:29.240 --> 41:33.240]  Randy, what do you think about this?
[41:33.240 --> 41:47.240]  It's going to be difficult. That's a difficult one to get around because you did actually stop and they were clearly marked as police officers.
[41:47.240 --> 42:13.240]  That's correct. The first car was, the second car was an unmarked car and the first officer, I had told the officer I wanted to go to a lighted populated area and when he refused to give me permission to do that, I told him I'm going to do it anyway sir, please follow me.
[42:13.240 --> 42:22.240]  I had my flashers on and I started out very slowly on the median, five miles an hour, then I went up to ten miles an hour.
[42:22.240 --> 42:32.240]  When I got up to 40 miles an hour, I pulled onto the highway and then I speeded up to, and the guy was following me, the first officer was following me.
[42:32.240 --> 42:52.240]  Then I speeded up to about the speed limit, about 55 miles an hour and while we were going in this orderly way, not dangerous in any way whatsoever, the second officer, which the first officer told me he wouldn't call a second officer,
[42:52.240 --> 43:02.240]  a second officer in an unmarked vehicle came and pulled me over, basically running me off the road on the right.
[43:02.240 --> 43:24.240]  I would have had a wreck if I hadn't stopped for him and then he immediately, I was still alarmed and I still wanted to go to the lighted area and I refused to roll down my window.
[43:24.240 --> 43:34.240]  My window had a mechanism that if I pushed the button to roll it down, to start rolling it down, it would roll all the way down.
[43:34.240 --> 43:37.240]  Okay, wait a minute, hold on, we're going to break Shirley, we're going to break Shirley.
[43:37.240 --> 43:38.240]  Okay.
[43:38.240 --> 43:48.240]  I know Kevin, I'm sorry, I know that we've got Stephen from Montana on the line and Ken from Texas and that Randy and Eddie have some comments about this on the other side.
[43:48.240 --> 43:54.240]  So just hang on and we'll be right back with you to make some comments. This is the rule of law.
[43:54.240 --> 44:22.240]  Randy, Eddie and Deborah, we will be right back.
[44:24.240 --> 44:51.240]  We'll be right back.
[44:54.240 --> 45:04.240]  This is a great way to change your life, so call 908-691-2608 or visit us at hempusa.org today.
[45:24.240 --> 45:48.240]  Thank you.
[45:48.240 --> 45:59.240]  I give my message out to anyone who's shouting distance, vote for bravery and against slavery, show resistance.
[45:59.240 --> 46:04.240]  First I'm crawling, then I'm walking, then I start strutting.
[46:04.240 --> 46:22.240]  I'm just so glad to make my living pushing buttons.
[46:22.240 --> 46:27.240]  We sat down to play Monopoly, we all wanted to win the game.
[46:27.240 --> 46:34.240]  We gave some guy endless money supply, we must have not been thinking this way.
[46:34.240 --> 46:47.240]  After some time, the worth of my dime got me down to dinner, nothing I might have been doing all right until I make my living pushing buttons.
[46:47.240 --> 46:48.240]  Okay, we are back.
[46:48.240 --> 46:51.240]  We're talking with Shirley from Texas.
[46:51.240 --> 47:01.240]  Okay, and we do have a first-time caller, Joe, in Wyoming that we want to get to next, and then we'll go to Stephen and Ken.
[47:01.240 --> 47:05.240]  So, Eddie, you had some comments for Shirley.
[47:05.240 --> 47:06.240]  Okay, Shirley?
[47:06.240 --> 47:07.240]  Yes.
[47:07.240 --> 47:16.240]  All right, first thing is, as far as the conviction on the driving thing and all that, you're going to have to consider that water under the bridge.
[47:16.240 --> 47:25.240]  The problem with that is that the things they actually convicted you on other than the felony assault was accurate.
[47:25.240 --> 47:33.240]  I said that the things that they convicted you on other than the felony assault, which you said they dropped, was accurate.
[47:33.240 --> 47:44.240]  If you had simply turned on your emergency flashers and gone to a location without ever stopping the first time, your troubles would have been nonexistent.
[47:44.240 --> 47:53.240]  But because you stopped the motion of that car and started it up again, you gave yourself a whole other problem.
[47:53.240 --> 47:55.240]  Well, I do disagree with you.
[47:55.240 --> 47:59.240]  I don't know if you're going to allow me to address it or not.
[47:59.240 --> 48:01.240]  Well, yes, Shirley, we know you disagree.
[48:01.240 --> 48:03.240]  I mean, you've – I think you've pretty much stated –
[48:03.240 --> 48:06.240]  I understand what you have to say, but so –
[48:06.240 --> 48:13.240]  Well, but now, as far as the medical license thing goes, you said that somebody is already suing the State Board of Licenses, right?
[48:13.240 --> 48:15.240]  The Texas Medical Board, yes.
[48:15.240 --> 48:16.240]  Okay.
[48:16.240 --> 48:19.240]  You need to join in on that suit.
[48:19.240 --> 48:20.240]  I am.
[48:20.240 --> 48:22.240]  I'm a member of the organization.
[48:22.240 --> 48:24.240]  Okay.
[48:24.240 --> 48:30.240]  But are you joined in as a complainant or are you just joined in as an organizational member?
[48:30.240 --> 48:31.240]  There's going to be a difference.
[48:31.240 --> 48:32.240]  Okay.
[48:32.240 --> 48:36.240]  I'll have to make sure – I'll have to make sure that they list me as one of the complainants.
[48:36.240 --> 48:46.240]  Yes, because you're not going to be able to argue your case and get your license back if that's what you're seeking if you're not a complainant in the case.
[48:46.240 --> 48:50.240]  Okay.
[48:50.240 --> 48:51.240]  All right?
[48:51.240 --> 49:00.240]  But what I was saying, that's – but other than that, you know, that's as far as we're able to help you as far as the license thing on that side goes.
[49:00.240 --> 49:07.240]  Well, I do have plenty of stuff in the works, you know, other than calling y'all on the license issue.
[49:07.240 --> 49:09.240]  Yes, ma'am.
[49:09.240 --> 49:14.240]  And I understand we want to have good, easy answers.
[49:14.240 --> 49:15.240]  Right.
[49:15.240 --> 49:16.240]  There are.
[49:16.240 --> 49:17.240]  Sometimes we just don't.
[49:17.240 --> 49:18.240]  Right.
[49:18.240 --> 49:21.240]  And yours is – a lot of it is just out of our league.
[49:21.240 --> 49:23.240]  I understand.
[49:23.240 --> 49:30.240]  I mean, there's all kinds of things I can tell you that was wrong from the beginning of what happened with the police officers.
[49:30.240 --> 49:31.240]  Right.
[49:31.240 --> 49:47.240]  But the biggest problem is once you stopped that car and they approached it, I don't care whether they were in the wrong or not, the problem is you're never going to win that fight in Texas.
[49:47.240 --> 49:54.240]  They will rig that trial any way they have to to make you look like the bad guy to that jury, and they will do it.
[49:54.240 --> 49:56.240]  That's exactly what they did.
[49:56.240 --> 50:03.240]  But you are never, ever going to win that fight in Texas if you stopped that car and tried to start it up again after they approached it.
[50:03.240 --> 50:05.240]  You're just not.
[50:05.240 --> 50:11.240]  That doesn't mean that what I didn't do wasn't honorable and that I'm going to continue pursuing it.
[50:11.240 --> 50:12.240]  No, no, no.
[50:12.240 --> 50:13.240]  I'm not saying that.
[50:13.240 --> 50:15.240]  You know, I'm not saying that at all.
[50:15.240 --> 50:21.240]  I'm just simply saying that that is going to be not an uphill battle.
[50:21.240 --> 50:24.240]  You're going to be fighting a completely vertical battle.
[50:24.240 --> 50:25.240]  Okay?
[50:25.240 --> 50:35.240]  I am aware of that, but I do have some strong advocates, and I'm not about to proclaim defeat yet.
[50:35.240 --> 50:36.240]  All right.
[50:36.240 --> 50:37.240]  Good deal, Shirley.
[50:37.240 --> 50:38.240]  Wonderful.
[50:38.240 --> 50:39.240]  We're glad to hear that.
[50:39.240 --> 50:51.240]  Please feel free to send me an e-mail and keep me updated on what's going on, because anything that I can get information on that we can use in these matters to help other people, you're willing to share it, I'm willing to use it.
[50:51.240 --> 50:52.240]  Okay.
[50:52.240 --> 50:53.240]  And you're Randy?
[50:53.240 --> 50:54.240]  No, that's Eddie.
[50:54.240 --> 50:55.240]  Okay.
[50:55.240 --> 50:59.240]  Do you want to be on my e-mail list?
[50:59.240 --> 51:00.240]  That'll be fine.
[51:00.240 --> 51:02.240]  You can get my e-mail address off the Web site.
[51:02.240 --> 51:03.240]  Okay.
[51:03.240 --> 51:05.240]  Thank you, Shirley.
[51:05.240 --> 51:06.240]  All right.
[51:06.240 --> 51:07.240]  Stay in there.
[51:07.240 --> 51:08.240]  Keep fighting.
[51:08.240 --> 51:09.240]  Okay.
[51:09.240 --> 51:12.240]  We're going to go now to Joe in Wyoming, first-time caller.
[51:12.240 --> 51:14.240]  Joe, thanks for calling in.
[51:14.240 --> 51:15.240]  What's on your mind?
[51:15.240 --> 51:16.240]  And Stephen, just sit tight.
[51:16.240 --> 51:17.240]  We're going to you next.
[51:17.240 --> 51:19.240]  Thanks, Joe.
[51:19.240 --> 51:20.240]  Oh, yeah.
[51:20.240 --> 51:24.240]  Thank you for letting me on the show.
[51:24.240 --> 51:34.240]  You know, that lady down there in Texas, she's really got a load of problems out there.
[51:34.240 --> 51:41.240]  You know, the whole thing is I believe that these people took a note to uphold the law
[51:41.240 --> 51:50.240]  and not just run ragged over these people down there.
[51:50.240 --> 51:51.240]  Isn't that true?
[51:51.240 --> 51:52.240]  Well, you're right.
[51:52.240 --> 51:54.240]  They did.
[51:54.240 --> 52:02.240]  Well, what I'm thinking about, I've been around a good 85 years now.
[52:02.240 --> 52:07.240]  I think that we have to get these sheriffs on the ball so they're not doing that kind
[52:07.240 --> 52:17.240]  of thing, because back in 1930, when I was growing up, we didn't have this kind of thing
[52:17.240 --> 52:20.240]  going on.
[52:20.240 --> 52:27.240]  And people just let everybody do what they kind of wanted, and we knew that driving and
[52:27.240 --> 52:34.240]  all that was just one of those for a higher kind of deal now.
[52:34.240 --> 52:45.240]  Well, do you think you can win that case down there with those people?
[52:45.240 --> 52:50.240]  I'm joining on like that.
[52:50.240 --> 52:52.240]  Well, it depends on which case you're talking about.
[52:52.240 --> 52:55.240]  Are you talking about the previous caller, Charlie?
[52:55.240 --> 53:01.240]  I believe that's the one, yes.
[53:01.240 --> 53:08.240]  She may get her license back, but the conviction, she'll have a hard time winning that one.
[53:08.240 --> 53:10.240]  What do you think about that?
[53:10.240 --> 53:12.240]  Was she a doctor or something like that?
[53:12.240 --> 53:16.240]  Yes, she was an M.D. and they took away her license.
[53:16.240 --> 53:18.240]  Oh, boy.
[53:18.240 --> 53:24.240]  Well, that's the problem with having regulated the press.
[53:24.240 --> 53:26.240]  Yes, it is.
[53:26.240 --> 53:28.240]  Yes, it is, Joe.
[53:28.240 --> 53:30.240]  I totally agree.
[53:30.240 --> 53:33.240]  I think that that's the biggest abomination in the world.
[53:33.240 --> 53:38.240]  What are they going to do, give us farmers out here licenses to grow weed or something?
[53:38.240 --> 53:44.240]  They would try to license everything we do, including breathing, if we let them get away
[53:44.240 --> 53:45.240]  with it, Joe.
[53:45.240 --> 53:50.240]  They want to tax us and regulate us and license anything and everything we would do or not
[53:50.240 --> 53:51.240]  do.
[53:51.240 --> 53:54.240]  That's the new freedom.
[53:54.240 --> 53:56.240]  That's the new liberty, Joe.
[53:56.240 --> 54:02.240]  We have to really, really push back on this and get back to fundamental libertarian principles.
[54:02.240 --> 54:03.240]  You're absolutely right, Joe.
[54:03.240 --> 54:05.240]  I couldn't agree with you more.
[54:05.240 --> 54:08.240]  Now, let me ask you something.
[54:08.240 --> 54:16.240]  I'm a farmer up here and we're going to have a crop coming in sometime around June.
[54:16.240 --> 54:25.240]  Do you think I could get away with accidentally spilling the load in front of a cop car?
[54:25.240 --> 54:26.240]  I don't know, Joe.
[54:26.240 --> 54:31.240]  Hey, we had a guy here in Nacogdoches that drove with an entire bed full of it freshly cut out of
[54:31.240 --> 54:36.240]  the field right through the middle of town with a cop car following him.
[54:36.240 --> 54:43.240]  I tell you, Joe, you know, you got to hang in there and fight alongside us because this NAIS
[54:43.240 --> 54:49.240]  business, they want to make you chip all your farm animals, your horses, cattle if you have
[54:49.240 --> 54:51.240]  cattle, you know, fish.
[54:51.240 --> 54:57.240]  They want you to implant fish in your pond with microchips, everything.
[54:57.240 --> 55:03.240]  Well, you know up here they're trying to get us licensed to use fertilizer, but we're making
[55:03.240 --> 55:06.240]  out our own land up here now.
[55:06.240 --> 55:07.240]  Well, good for you.
[55:07.240 --> 55:08.240]  That's the way to go.
[55:08.240 --> 55:13.240]  By the department of motor vehicle up here.
[55:13.240 --> 55:18.240]  I think that's just something way off in, you know, somewhere else.
[55:18.240 --> 55:21.240]  I ain't going for that one now.
[55:21.240 --> 55:23.240]  Good for you.
[55:23.240 --> 55:24.240]  Good for you guys, too.
[55:24.240 --> 55:28.240]  Keep the good work up, you youngins, and keep on hitting them.
[55:28.240 --> 55:29.240]  Thank you, Joe.
[55:29.240 --> 55:30.240]  We appreciate the call.
[55:30.240 --> 55:31.240]  You hang in there.
[55:31.240 --> 55:34.240]  You stick in there with them, buddy.
[55:34.240 --> 55:37.240]  I especially appreciate being called a youngin.
[55:37.240 --> 55:40.240]  I don't get that much.
[55:40.240 --> 55:47.240]  Well, being in my late 80s now, I just got to support you doing this, because I heard
[55:47.240 --> 55:54.240]  from some people up here that this was a good call, and oh, Lordy, I just had to call in.
[55:54.240 --> 55:55.240]  Thank you very much.
[55:55.240 --> 55:56.240]  Thank you, Joe.
[55:56.240 --> 56:00.240]  Are you listening to us on the Internet up there in Wyoming?
[56:00.240 --> 56:06.240]  I didn't know you had an Internet call up here, but somebody gave you a phone number.
[56:06.240 --> 56:07.240]  Okay.
[56:07.240 --> 56:08.240]  Well, listen.
[56:08.240 --> 56:16.240]  Yeah, you can listen to us on the Internet at ruleoflawradio.com, and there's a listener
[56:16.240 --> 56:20.240]  line if you want to call in to just listen.
[56:20.240 --> 56:30.240]  This is a caller line, but the listener line is 512-485-9010, and we're on the air every
[56:30.240 --> 56:37.240]  night starting at 6, this network from 6 to 10 p.m. and 6 to midnight on Fridays, and
[56:37.240 --> 56:44.240]  our show starts at 8 p.m., 8 to 10 on Mondays and Thursdays and Fridays, 8 to midnight on
[56:44.240 --> 56:46.240]  Fridays, that is.
[56:46.240 --> 56:47.240]  Okay.
[56:47.240 --> 56:52.240]  Well, do you think a 56K connection would work good on that?
[56:52.240 --> 56:54.240]  Yes, that would work fine.
[56:54.240 --> 56:59.240]  We have a 16K stream for people who are on low-speed Internet.
[56:59.240 --> 57:04.240]  If you go to the website, you'll see there's some links to click on the 16K stream, and
[57:04.240 --> 57:06.240]  you can listen on the Internet.
[57:06.240 --> 57:13.240]  Yes, because we're so far out that, you know, we don't get that high-speed kind of stuff.
[57:13.240 --> 57:14.240]  Right, right.
[57:14.240 --> 57:20.240]  Well, that's why we have a – we've got a 64K stream, and we've got a 16K stream,
[57:20.240 --> 57:24.240]  so you can click on the 16K and be able to listen.
[57:24.240 --> 57:25.240]  Okay.
[57:25.240 --> 57:27.240]  Well, thank you much.
[57:27.240 --> 57:29.240]  Thank you, Joe.
[57:29.240 --> 57:31.240]  Yes, okay.
[57:31.240 --> 57:32.240]  All right.
[57:32.240 --> 57:33.240]  You hang in there, Joe.
[57:33.240 --> 57:34.240]  I'm doing it.
[57:34.240 --> 57:35.240]  Okay.
[57:35.240 --> 57:36.240]  All right.
[57:36.240 --> 57:37.240]  All right.
[57:37.240 --> 57:38.240]  I'll talk to you – talk to you soon.
[57:38.240 --> 57:40.240]  All right, guys, what do you think?
[57:40.240 --> 57:43.240]  Joe in Wyoming, 85 years old.
[57:43.240 --> 57:45.240]  He's up there kicking.
[57:45.240 --> 57:46.240]  He says, forget the licensing.
[57:46.240 --> 57:49.240]  I love it.
[57:49.240 --> 57:51.240]  I absolutely agree.
[57:51.240 --> 57:53.240]  What do you – what do you say, youngin'?
[57:53.240 --> 57:56.240]  He called me a youngin'.
[57:56.240 --> 57:59.240]  He's dirt older than me, and I'm called a youngin'.
[57:59.240 --> 58:00.240]  I don't get that often.
[58:00.240 --> 58:01.240]  You youngins keep fighting.
[58:01.240 --> 58:02.240]  I love it.
[58:02.240 --> 58:06.240]  Okay, folks, we are going to the top-of-the-hour break here.
[58:06.240 --> 58:08.240]  We've got Stephen in Montana next.
[58:08.240 --> 58:11.240]  Boy, we got a lot of calls from the Midwest tonight.
[58:11.240 --> 58:13.240]  Wyoming, Montana.
[58:13.240 --> 58:15.240]  I love it.
[58:15.240 --> 58:17.240]  And then we got Ken from Texas.
[58:17.240 --> 58:20.240]  Okay, Stephen, Ken, you two are up next.
[58:20.240 --> 58:26.240]  Callers, if you'd like to call in, 512-646-1984.
[58:26.240 --> 58:27.240]  After that, we have open filings.
[58:27.240 --> 58:29.240]  We've got one hour left.
[58:29.240 --> 58:30.240]  We'll be right back.
[58:30.240 --> 58:58.240]  Us youngins will be right back, folks.
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[01:00:06.240 --> 01:00:09.240]  A new government report on our broken health care system
[01:00:09.240 --> 01:00:13.240]  details how insurance companies prosper as Americans suffer.
[01:00:13.240 --> 01:00:18.240]  Underscoring the urgency of reform, profits for the 10 largest insurance companies
[01:00:18.240 --> 01:00:23.240]  increased 250 percent between 2000 and 2009.
[01:00:23.240 --> 01:00:31.240]  The CEOs of America's five largest insurers each made up to $24 million in 2008.
[01:00:31.240 --> 01:00:35.240]  Barack Obama's establishment by executive order of a bipartisan commission
[01:00:35.240 --> 01:00:39.240]  on Deficits Thursday is the latest step in the administration's attack
[01:00:39.240 --> 01:00:42.240]  on health care and retirement programs.
[01:00:42.240 --> 01:00:46.240]  The 18-member panel will propose measures to slash government spending
[01:00:46.240 --> 01:00:50.240]  on Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security.
[01:00:50.240 --> 01:00:55.240]  A new medical report claims it is scientific proof that inhaled cannabis
[01:00:55.240 --> 01:01:00.240]  holds medical value at or above the level of prescription medicines.
[01:01:00.240 --> 01:01:06.240]  The California Center for Medicinal Cannabis Research says cannabis is a promising treatment
[01:01:06.240 --> 01:01:12.240]  in selected pain syndromes caused by injury or diseases of the nervous system.
[01:01:12.240 --> 01:01:16.240]  Top of the hour news brought to you by INN World Report.
[01:01:16.240 --> 01:01:21.240]  The Obama administration announced a $1.25 billion settlement Thursday
[01:01:21.240 --> 01:01:26.240]  to resolve charges by thousands of black farmers who say that for decades
[01:01:26.240 --> 01:01:30.240]  the Agriculture Department discriminated against them in loan programs.
[01:01:30.240 --> 01:01:35.240]  Cabinet officials exhorted Congress to approve the deal by setting aside money
[01:01:35.240 --> 01:01:40.240]  for the farmers who have fought through three administrations to secure justice.
[01:01:40.240 --> 01:01:45.240]  Cultural Secretary Tom Vilsack said in the worst cases farmers lost their property
[01:01:45.240 --> 01:01:49.240]  after local administrators slow-pedaled loan applications,
[01:01:49.240 --> 01:01:52.240]  leaving them unable to plant key crops.
[01:01:52.240 --> 01:01:58.240]  The government paid $1 billion to settle a related case with 16,000 black farmers in 1999,
[01:01:58.240 --> 01:02:04.240]  but notification and communication errors led to some farmers being omitted from that settlement.
[01:02:04.240 --> 01:02:08.240]  The new agreement would provide cash payments and debt relief to farmers
[01:02:08.240 --> 01:02:11.240]  who applied too late to participate in the earlier settlement.
[01:02:11.240 --> 01:02:18.240]  Analysts say more than 70,000 farmers might apply this time.
[01:02:18.240 --> 01:02:24.240]  Anthem Blue Cross's parent company Wellpoint has been challenged by Congressman Henry Waxman
[01:02:24.240 --> 01:02:28.240]  over discrepancies between the company's public explanation for hiking rates
[01:02:28.240 --> 01:02:33.240]  on individual insurance premiums in California and its own internal documents,
[01:02:33.240 --> 01:02:35.240]  which tell a different story.
[01:02:35.240 --> 01:02:40.240]  Waxman's parents said it was forced to increase rates due to the poor economic climate
[01:02:40.240 --> 01:02:44.240]  and the fact that healthy individuals decided to drop their coverage.
[01:02:44.240 --> 01:02:48.240]  But Waxman pointed out in a letter to Wellpoint's CEO Angela Braley
[01:02:48.240 --> 01:02:53.240]  that according to data the company submitted to the National Association of Insurance Commissioners,
[01:02:53.240 --> 01:02:58.240]  membership did not decrease but increased by over 7 percent.
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[01:03:39.240 --> 01:03:51.240]  All right, we youngins are back.
[01:03:51.240 --> 01:03:53.240]  We're taking your calls.
[01:03:53.240 --> 01:03:57.240]  512-646-1984.
[01:03:57.240 --> 01:04:00.240]  We have Steven from Montana.
[01:04:00.240 --> 01:04:02.240]  Oh, and I see Mike from Texas has called back in.
[01:04:02.240 --> 01:04:03.240]  Mike, we'll go to you next.
[01:04:03.240 --> 01:04:04.240]  Thanks, Steve.
[01:04:04.240 --> 01:04:05.240]  What's on your mind?
[01:04:05.240 --> 01:04:09.240]  Hi, guys.
[01:04:09.240 --> 01:04:13.240]  Just a little background on my case that I've done.
[01:04:13.240 --> 01:04:18.240]  I put in a notice to abatement challenging the veracity of the ticket
[01:04:18.240 --> 01:04:21.240]  and the officer issuing a summons to appear.
[01:04:21.240 --> 01:04:29.240]  All that, anyways, it was all supported by memorandum and it put them in default.
[01:04:29.240 --> 01:04:37.240]  When I issued the clerk to enter default on everybody, she never did that.
[01:04:37.240 --> 01:04:43.240]  And then also I had the clerk, I gave her a notice of acceptance of constitutions
[01:04:43.240 --> 01:04:50.240]  and then written precipice defaults, you know, and asked them to,
[01:04:50.240 --> 01:04:57.240]  and then I did a mandamus after they didn't enter the default to mandate them to enter the default.
[01:04:57.240 --> 01:05:01.240]  And then also including in the envelope I asked for,
[01:05:01.240 --> 01:05:06.240]  I did a self-addressed stamped envelope of certified copies sent back to me.
[01:05:06.240 --> 01:05:11.240]  She never did any of that.
[01:05:11.240 --> 01:05:17.240]  And then last week, I have a trial next week or a pretrial next week.
[01:05:17.240 --> 01:05:23.240]  And last week I asked for certified copies of all of my docket,
[01:05:23.240 --> 01:05:27.240]  and that was last Friday and I had to do a response to a,
[01:05:27.240 --> 01:05:31.240]  or a rebuttal to a response to one of my motions to dismiss.
[01:05:31.240 --> 01:05:39.240]  And I feel that the clerk has been procrastinating in giving me my documents.
[01:05:39.240 --> 01:05:43.240]  She finally sent it out today, so it's been a week later.
[01:05:43.240 --> 01:05:51.240]  Now I don't have enough time to make my rebuttal without those documents.
[01:05:51.240 --> 01:05:57.240]  I'm wondering if you could think of any crimes she'd committed there.
[01:05:57.240 --> 01:05:58.240]  Well, yeah.
[01:05:58.240 --> 01:06:00.240]  That's one of my issues.
[01:06:00.240 --> 01:06:06.240]  You know, you're required to have a public court and she's denying you in a public court.
[01:06:06.240 --> 01:06:11.240]  She's going to say that she did respond and did give you the documentation,
[01:06:11.240 --> 01:06:16.240]  but you're going to say that she didn't respond in a timely manner and therefore denied you of the right.
[01:06:16.240 --> 01:06:21.240]  So you should file against the clerk and go down and find out who her insurance carrier is
[01:06:21.240 --> 01:06:25.240]  and file a claim against her insurance.
[01:06:25.240 --> 01:06:29.240]  That will absolutely get the clerk's attention.
[01:06:29.240 --> 01:06:34.240]  Okay, because I asked why yesterday I sent in for a motion to continuance,
[01:06:34.240 --> 01:06:40.240]  and in that, you know, because I didn't have enough time to respond because of what she's done.
[01:06:40.240 --> 01:06:44.240]  And I don't know whether or not she'll get a continuance for that,
[01:06:44.240 --> 01:06:54.240]  but in the continuance I just kind of accused her of tampering with evidence and official misconduct.
[01:06:54.240 --> 01:07:02.240]  And denying you a public court, that goes to Constitution.
[01:07:02.240 --> 01:07:08.240]  Yeah, not only that, when they tell you things like you can't have a jury trial and all this kind of stuff,
[01:07:08.240 --> 01:07:11.240]  that's a problem for them.
[01:07:11.240 --> 01:07:14.240]  Well, yeah, they're giving me a jury trial.
[01:07:14.240 --> 01:07:19.240]  I just believe that they were holding off on sending me my documents
[01:07:19.240 --> 01:07:22.240]  because I was going to attach them all as exhibits to my response,
[01:07:22.240 --> 01:07:26.240]  and then I was going to do a counterclaim also with them all attached as exhibits.
[01:07:26.240 --> 01:07:32.240]  And now I'm not going to have enough time before pretrial to get that in.
[01:07:32.240 --> 01:07:34.240]  So that's that issue.
[01:07:34.240 --> 01:07:41.240]  The other thing I wanted to ask, Randy, was I work on the road,
[01:07:41.240 --> 01:07:47.240]  and I was wondering how I can start filing criminal complaints, you know, through certified mail
[01:07:47.240 --> 01:07:54.240]  to different, you know, prosecutors or judges, like what you do.
[01:07:54.240 --> 01:07:58.240]  What do you think would be the best way about going about that through the mail?
[01:07:58.240 --> 01:08:06.240]  Well, I like mail because then they don't get to look at you and talk to you and reason with you.
[01:08:06.240 --> 01:08:10.240]  And, you know, they can't make these veiled threats.
[01:08:10.240 --> 01:08:15.240]  They have to do everything in writing.
[01:08:15.240 --> 01:08:18.240]  Yeah, you'd be surprised how much you can get done through the mail.
[01:08:18.240 --> 01:08:25.240]  I mean, even like with the four FCC cases that I've taken care of right now,
[01:08:25.240 --> 01:08:29.240]  everything we've done has been through the mail,
[01:08:29.240 --> 01:08:33.240]  except there was one hearing a long time ago where we called a motion hearing
[01:08:33.240 --> 01:08:38.240]  for a temporary restraining order at the state level that we didn't get granted
[01:08:38.240 --> 01:08:42.240]  because the judge was afraid to do anything without the U.S. prosecutor present.
[01:08:42.240 --> 01:08:45.240]  But so far we've been able to do everything by mail,
[01:08:45.240 --> 01:08:50.240]  and we're going to continue to do everything by mail and file objections to oral arguments
[01:08:50.240 --> 01:08:53.240]  and ask the judge to rule on our pleadings alone.
[01:08:53.240 --> 01:08:58.240]  Most of the time when we can get away with it, we're going to have to do some oral arguments.
[01:08:58.240 --> 01:09:02.240]  And folks, we really do need your help and donations for 9.1 right now
[01:09:02.240 --> 01:09:08.240]  because we are going to have to go to New Orleans at some point for some oral arguments.
[01:09:08.240 --> 01:09:10.240]  But for the most case, you can do everything by mail.
[01:09:10.240 --> 01:09:11.240]  Go ahead, Eddie.
[01:09:11.240 --> 01:09:15.240]  Yeah, now what I was going to suggest is if you're going to file it by mail,
[01:09:15.240 --> 01:09:20.240]  send it to the grand jury of whatever town you're making the charge in.
[01:09:20.240 --> 01:09:27.240]  Send it to them certified mail, return receipt requested to whatever address you're going to be at,
[01:09:27.240 --> 01:09:34.240]  and then just put in a self-addressed stamped envelope with, as Randy suggests,
[01:09:34.240 --> 01:09:40.240]  with something for the grand jury foreman to initial certifying that he got it.
[01:09:40.240 --> 01:09:43.240]  And when you don't get that, then you can file with the grand jury
[01:09:43.240 --> 01:09:46.240]  against the district attorney for intercepting United States mail
[01:09:46.240 --> 01:09:48.240]  and seek to post the service on him.
[01:09:48.240 --> 01:09:51.240]  Right. Yeah, that's exactly what I was going to ask Randy about that too
[01:09:51.240 --> 01:09:53.240]  because he said send it restricted mail.
[01:09:53.240 --> 01:09:57.240]  So that means that the foreman of the grand jury is the one that actually has to sign for it?
[01:09:57.240 --> 01:10:01.240]  Yes. Restricted delivery with certified mail.
[01:10:01.240 --> 01:10:08.240]  So on the address, he was saying to county attorney, right?
[01:10:08.240 --> 01:10:15.240]  Well, you send it to the district attorney, but in the name of grand jury 1, 2, 3, 4, whatever.
[01:10:15.240 --> 01:10:19.240]  Unless the grand jury has a different mailing address,
[01:10:19.240 --> 01:10:28.240]  you call down to the clerk's office and find out if it's like a different room number or office number,
[01:10:28.240 --> 01:10:32.240]  like here in Travis County, the grand jury has their own office number.
[01:10:32.240 --> 01:10:37.240]  It's right next door to the DA's office, so it's a different suite number.
[01:10:37.240 --> 01:10:40.240]  It's a different room number at the justice building.
[01:10:40.240 --> 01:10:50.240]  And so if they have their own mailing address or their own physical office address that's separate from the DA,
[01:10:50.240 --> 01:10:56.240]  then find out what that is and send it there and send it, yes, restricted delivery address to the foreman.
[01:10:56.240 --> 01:10:58.240]  Find out who the foreman is.
[01:10:58.240 --> 01:11:05.240]  Okay. So then I could do that with this clerk, files criminal complaints on what she's done,
[01:11:05.240 --> 01:11:11.240]  you know, the arresting officer from not having probable cause to pull me over because I wasn't in commerce,
[01:11:11.240 --> 01:11:18.240]  blah, blah, blah, being blown over by the judge, you know, not respecting the default,
[01:11:18.240 --> 01:11:20.240]  all that kind of stuff that I can come up with.
[01:11:20.240 --> 01:11:23.240]  Just put it all in an envelope, send it there.
[01:11:23.240 --> 01:11:31.240]  Yeah. And, you know, they won't know anything about it until somebody higher up comes down and says,
[01:11:31.240 --> 01:11:35.240]  hey, why is this guy trying to get you to get us to arrest you?
[01:11:35.240 --> 01:11:40.240]  Now, Phil, make sure that it's a verified criminal affidavit, not just a letter.
[01:11:40.240 --> 01:11:45.240]  Right, right, yeah. Yeah, I understand that.
[01:11:45.240 --> 01:11:51.240]  Yeah, it's not like going to the police and filling out a complaint, like a police report.
[01:11:51.240 --> 01:11:55.240]  Right. So do you think that for the clerk there,
[01:11:55.240 --> 01:12:01.240]  you think tampering with evidence would be a one, official misconduct?
[01:12:01.240 --> 01:12:04.240]  Not tampering. No.
[01:12:04.240 --> 01:12:07.240]  Unless she changed something.
[01:12:07.240 --> 01:12:17.240]  But, well, yeah, tampering, if she secreted the document, did she not get a motion filed with the court timely?
[01:12:17.240 --> 01:12:26.240]  No, what she did was I sent in, you know, recipes, defaults, and stuff, and then asked her to send certified.
[01:12:26.240 --> 01:12:33.240]  And then I put a self-adjusted stamped envelope with a cover letter telling her to send me the certified copy
[01:12:33.240 --> 01:12:39.240]  because I put extra copies in there and tell her to send it back to me so I could have that, you know, also.
[01:12:39.240 --> 01:12:41.240]  And she never sent any of that stuff back.
[01:12:41.240 --> 01:12:44.240]  Well, did you send that to her certified mail to begin with?
[01:12:44.240 --> 01:12:49.240]  Yes. Do you know if she ever filed the document?
[01:12:49.240 --> 01:12:54.240]  I don't know yet because she's been, like, last, it's been a week.
[01:12:54.240 --> 01:13:00.240]  Well, since she didn't send them back to you, you have reason to believe she didn't file them.
[01:13:00.240 --> 01:13:03.240]  So file on her for it.
[01:13:03.240 --> 01:13:08.240]  Can you go to the court to see if your motions are in the file?
[01:13:08.240 --> 01:13:15.240]  That's what I've been trying to do. It's been a week since I've asked for certified copies of everything in my docket.
[01:13:15.240 --> 01:13:18.240]  Well, that's not what I mean. I mean, if you're in the same town, can you just...
[01:13:18.240 --> 01:13:19.240]  No, I'm not in the same town.
[01:13:19.240 --> 01:13:20.240]  Okay. All right.
[01:13:20.240 --> 01:13:22.240]  That's my problem.
[01:13:22.240 --> 01:13:28.240]  I was called there and told her to get everything ready because my mom was going to go pick them up and then mail them to me.
[01:13:28.240 --> 01:13:29.240]  Is this a federal case?
[01:13:29.240 --> 01:13:31.240]  No, it's Justice of the Peace.
[01:13:31.240 --> 01:13:36.240]  Okay. All right. Because I was going to say if it's federal, you could look it up on Pacer and see if the pleading had been filed.
[01:13:36.240 --> 01:13:41.240]  Yeah, no. It's just a simple traffic thing.
[01:13:41.240 --> 01:13:45.240]  All right. Well, I guess that's probably about it then.
[01:13:45.240 --> 01:13:55.240]  Those JP clerks tend to be the least professional I ever come across, and they always have an attitude.
[01:13:55.240 --> 01:13:59.240]  And I really enjoy adjusting their attitudes.
[01:13:59.240 --> 01:14:02.240]  Yeah, they just seem like they can do whatever they want.
[01:14:02.240 --> 01:14:08.240]  Yeah. I filed against one in Azalea, Texas, and she quit immediately.
[01:14:08.240 --> 01:14:10.240]  What did you file, a criminal complaint?
[01:14:10.240 --> 01:14:15.240]  Yeah, I filed official oppression against her.
[01:14:15.240 --> 01:14:21.240]  I probably at least got that charged on her, official misconduct, official oppression.
[01:14:21.240 --> 01:14:25.240]  Yeah. I mean, you could file tampering with the government documents.
[01:14:25.240 --> 01:14:30.240]  There's plenty of reason to believe that she did not file the documents.
[01:14:30.240 --> 01:14:33.240]  Oh, tampering. Well, what about the evidence issue?
[01:14:33.240 --> 01:14:42.240]  Because that's evidence in my countersuit is what I need that for.
[01:14:42.240 --> 01:14:45.240]  That would fall under destruction of evidence.
[01:14:45.240 --> 01:14:51.240]  Yeah. Try to find the allegation that fits best.
[01:14:51.240 --> 01:14:56.240]  You need to read the penal code and the criminal procedure code for your state.
[01:14:56.240 --> 01:14:59.240]  Yeah, and has the biggest hole to push them off into.
[01:14:59.240 --> 01:15:03.240]  When I file criminal charges, I never stretch.
[01:15:03.240 --> 01:15:08.240]  I make sure that what they've done is dead on what I charge them with.
[01:15:08.240 --> 01:15:10.240]  That's so they don't have a lot of wiggle room.
[01:15:10.240 --> 01:15:12.240]  Right.
[01:15:12.240 --> 01:15:17.240]  Yeah, I do the same thing, and I still get at least six charges every time they do something.
[01:15:17.240 --> 01:15:20.240]  Yeah, getting good ones is easy.
[01:15:20.240 --> 01:15:27.240]  I mean, the ideas that we're coming up with, we're coming from the perspective of Texas law.
[01:15:27.240 --> 01:15:32.240]  Montana law is probably similar, but the terminology may be different.
[01:15:32.240 --> 01:15:38.240]  Well, Montana law kind of sucks because it's not very much to it.
[01:15:38.240 --> 01:15:42.240]  I mean, it's really vague, everything in it is vague.
[01:15:42.240 --> 01:15:44.240]  They don't really say much.
[01:15:44.240 --> 01:15:49.240]  So it's really hard cross-referencing when I have you guys' documents to our state.
[01:15:49.240 --> 01:15:51.240]  Is this Stephen M., by the way?
[01:15:51.240 --> 01:15:52.240]  Yeah.
[01:15:52.240 --> 01:15:53.240]  Okay.
[01:15:53.240 --> 01:15:57.240]  I got your Skype earlier today.
[01:15:57.240 --> 01:16:00.240]  All right, well, so you think it would be better to just do it to the grand jury
[01:16:00.240 --> 01:16:05.240]  and then not even try to send it to the prosecutor or the district judge or maybe all three?
[01:16:05.240 --> 01:16:09.240]  Not if you actually – you can send them copies to let them know that you did it,
[01:16:09.240 --> 01:16:13.240]  but I'd send those about a week after I send them to the grand jury.
[01:16:13.240 --> 01:16:16.240]  Yeah, it kind of depends on who you want to start a fight with.
[01:16:16.240 --> 01:16:19.240]  Well, I kind of want to take your motion and go all the way to the district judge,
[01:16:19.240 --> 01:16:21.240]  but it's hard to do because I'm not in the county.
[01:16:21.240 --> 01:16:22.240]  I'm on the road.
[01:16:22.240 --> 01:16:26.240]  I travel with my job, so it's kind of hard to be there,
[01:16:26.240 --> 01:16:33.240]  and plus the county seats like 70 miles away from my hometown anyways.
[01:16:33.240 --> 01:16:35.240]  So, all right, well, I'll let you guys go.
[01:16:35.240 --> 01:16:36.240]  All right, thanks, Steve.
[01:16:36.240 --> 01:16:39.240]  Yeah, go for the grand jury for sure.
[01:16:39.240 --> 01:16:40.240]  Okay, great.
[01:16:40.240 --> 01:16:42.240]  All right, we are going to break now.
[01:16:42.240 --> 01:16:47.240]  We will go to Mike in Texas next.
[01:16:47.240 --> 01:16:50.240]  Mike called in earlier, waited for a long time, then he dropped us a line.
[01:16:50.240 --> 01:16:52.240]  So, Mike, thanks for calling back in.
[01:16:52.240 --> 01:16:54.240]  We're going to go to you next,
[01:16:54.240 --> 01:17:00.240]  and then we're going to go to Ken from Texas is right after that.
[01:17:00.240 --> 01:17:02.240]  We'll be right back.
[01:17:02.240 --> 01:17:06.240]  Do you feel tired when talking about important topics like money and politics?
[01:17:06.240 --> 01:17:07.240]  Sorry.
[01:17:07.240 --> 01:17:09.240]  Are you confused by words like the Constitution or the Federal Reserve?
[01:17:09.240 --> 01:17:10.240]  What?
[01:17:10.240 --> 01:17:15.240]  If so, you may be diagnosed with the deadliest disease known today, stupidity.
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[01:18:04.240 --> 01:18:27.240]  Oh, come on
[01:18:27.240 --> 01:18:32.240]  If I can get everything I want
[01:18:32.240 --> 01:18:38.240]  Should I maybe get a ranger?
[01:18:38.240 --> 01:18:43.240]  If I can get everything I need
[01:18:43.240 --> 01:18:49.240]  Should I maybe get a ranger?
[01:18:49.240 --> 01:18:54.240]  If people of the world can get happiness and peace
[01:18:54.240 --> 01:19:01.240]  Should I maybe get a ranger?
[01:19:01.240 --> 01:19:06.240]  If we can get all these crazy wars to see
[01:19:06.240 --> 01:19:24.240]  Should I maybe get a ranger?
[01:19:24.240 --> 01:19:28.240]  Looking for a little bitty smith in the hole
[01:19:28.240 --> 01:19:35.240]  Should I get a ranger?
[01:19:35.240 --> 01:19:39.240]  I want to reach the top of the hill, sliding on a slippery slope
[01:19:39.240 --> 01:19:45.240]  Looking for a ranger, yeah
[01:19:45.240 --> 01:19:50.240]  Trying to get away from all this sorrow
[01:19:50.240 --> 01:19:57.240]  Can I get a ranger?
[01:19:57.240 --> 01:20:02.240]  If not this day, maybe tomorrow
[01:20:02.240 --> 01:20:03.240]  Give me a rain check
[01:20:03.240 --> 01:20:05.240]  Alright, if not today, maybe tomorrow.
[01:20:05.240 --> 01:20:11.240]  We want a rain check by tomorrow for sure, at the latest.
[01:20:11.240 --> 01:20:14.240]  Okay, we're moving on to the rest of the callers.
[01:20:14.240 --> 01:20:16.240]  We've got Mike from Texas who called back in.
[01:20:16.240 --> 01:20:19.240]  Mike, thanks for patiently holding so long a while back
[01:20:19.240 --> 01:20:20.240]  and thanks for calling back in.
[01:20:20.240 --> 01:20:22.240]  What can we do for you tonight?
[01:20:22.240 --> 01:20:24.240]  Great, how are you guys doing tonight?
[01:20:24.240 --> 01:20:26.240]  We're doing pretty well.
[01:20:26.240 --> 01:20:32.240]  Hey, I wanted to, you know, Elizabeth from Texas,
[01:20:32.240 --> 01:20:34.240]  they called in earlier,
[01:20:34.240 --> 01:20:39.240]  and you had given her a lot of really good stuff,
[01:20:39.240 --> 01:20:42.240]  a lot of good, useful stuff, you know,
[01:20:42.240 --> 01:20:44.240]  with the code and the jurisdictionary.
[01:20:44.240 --> 01:20:49.240]  Do you guys have your seminar on DVD yet?
[01:20:49.240 --> 01:20:52.240]  The seminar, you mean the video?
[01:20:52.240 --> 01:20:53.240]  Yeah.
[01:20:53.240 --> 01:20:58.240]  No, no, we don't, I definitely do not have time to do the video editing.
[01:20:58.240 --> 01:21:01.240]  I spent months editing the audio.
[01:21:01.240 --> 01:21:03.240]  I'm working on it.
[01:21:03.240 --> 01:21:05.240]  Are you working on it, Eddie?
[01:21:05.240 --> 01:21:06.240]  Yes, I'm working on it.
[01:21:06.240 --> 01:21:07.240]  Okay, Eddie's working on it.
[01:21:07.240 --> 01:21:10.240]  With 56 cases and doing that at the same time,
[01:21:10.240 --> 01:21:12.240]  I'm getting a little bit behind.
[01:21:12.240 --> 01:21:14.240]  Yeah, we don't have like a team.
[01:21:14.240 --> 01:21:15.240]  We do have the audio, though.
[01:21:15.240 --> 01:21:18.240]  We do have the audio, and that's really the most important.
[01:21:18.240 --> 01:21:22.240]  I mean, the video, I mean, just seeing our faces on a screen,
[01:21:22.240 --> 01:21:25.240]  you're not going to get any more information than by listening.
[01:21:25.240 --> 01:21:30.240]  Yeah, and I'm a very big distraction, not just in looking at me,
[01:21:30.240 --> 01:21:32.240]  but, you know, in listening to me.
[01:21:32.240 --> 01:21:34.240]  Everybody thought, you know, they were getting a kidney stone
[01:21:34.240 --> 01:21:37.240]  pounded out by one of those sonic machines.
[01:21:37.240 --> 01:21:39.240]  What was that, Mike?
[01:21:39.240 --> 01:21:44.240]  I was just saying that might be another good resource for Elizabeth.
[01:21:44.240 --> 01:21:46.240]  The traffic seminar, yeah.
[01:21:46.240 --> 01:21:47.240]  She might want to get that.
[01:21:47.240 --> 01:21:51.240]  Yeah, now, folks, if you all want to order the traffic seminar,
[01:21:51.240 --> 01:21:54.240]  you can order it directly through the Rule of Law Radio Web site,
[01:21:54.240 --> 01:21:59.240]  and you will get a username and password to download the materials,
[01:21:59.240 --> 01:22:02.240]  and you will want to have high-speed Internet
[01:22:02.240 --> 01:22:04.240]  because the files are quite large,
[01:22:04.240 --> 01:22:12.240]  and Eddie has thrown in at least 3 gigs or more of reference materials.
[01:22:12.240 --> 01:22:13.240]  2.1, 2.1 gigs.
[01:22:13.240 --> 01:22:17.240]  2.1 gigs, okay, 2.1 gigs of reference materials
[01:22:17.240 --> 01:22:23.240]  in addition to the actual book and the materials
[01:22:23.240 --> 01:22:26.240]  that were available at the seminar and the audio.
[01:22:26.240 --> 01:22:28.240]  So you can order directly from us.
[01:22:28.240 --> 01:22:32.240]  You'll get a username and password within 48 hours,
[01:22:32.240 --> 01:22:34.240]  so you can download the stuff.
[01:22:34.240 --> 01:22:36.240]  If you don't have high-speed Internet,
[01:22:36.240 --> 01:22:40.240]  then you can order the materials on DVD.
[01:22:40.240 --> 01:22:45.240]  Now, it's not like a DVD that you can pop into your CD player and play.
[01:22:45.240 --> 01:22:48.240]  They are MP3 files on a DVD,
[01:22:48.240 --> 01:22:52.240]  and you can order that from Brave New Books.
[01:22:52.240 --> 01:22:54.240]  And how much is that going to cost me?
[01:22:54.240 --> 01:22:56.240]  That's $250 either way.
[01:22:56.240 --> 01:22:59.240]  Awesome. Great deal.
[01:22:59.240 --> 01:23:02.240]  Hey, I had a question for Randy.
[01:23:02.240 --> 01:23:04.240]  Go ahead.
[01:23:04.240 --> 01:23:11.240]  Randy, you had a caller earlier that was Dr. Shirley Pygar,
[01:23:11.240 --> 01:23:19.240]  and I am the one who asked her to call you.
[01:23:19.240 --> 01:23:30.240]  Now, if the police officers arrested her and took her straight to the jail,
[01:23:30.240 --> 01:23:36.240]  isn't that aggravated kidnapping?
[01:23:36.240 --> 01:23:38.240]  Any word?
[01:23:38.240 --> 01:23:40.240]  Go ahead, Randy.
[01:23:40.240 --> 01:23:43.240]  Well, yes and no.
[01:23:43.240 --> 01:23:45.240]  In this case, you know,
[01:23:45.240 --> 01:23:50.240]  normally we claim that they had no authority to make the arrest to start with.
[01:23:50.240 --> 01:23:56.240]  But, yeah, since they did make no effort to locate a magistrate,
[01:23:56.240 --> 01:23:59.240]  what time of day was it?
[01:23:59.240 --> 01:24:01.240]  You know, I don't...
[01:24:01.240 --> 01:24:02.240]  Actually, we have Shirley back on the line.
[01:24:02.240 --> 01:24:03.240]  Let's ask her.
[01:24:03.240 --> 01:24:05.240]  Shirley, what time of day was it?
[01:24:05.240 --> 01:24:10.240]  It was 8.15 at night.
[01:24:10.240 --> 01:24:11.240]  Okay.
[01:24:11.240 --> 01:24:14.240]  It's reasonable if it's not before 11,
[01:24:14.240 --> 01:24:17.240]  then they had a duty to make an effort to locate a magistrate,
[01:24:17.240 --> 01:24:20.240]  and they didn't as a matter of practice.
[01:24:20.240 --> 01:24:24.240]  That's aggravated assault, aggravated kidnapping.
[01:24:24.240 --> 01:24:27.240]  You have a great suit against them.
[01:24:27.240 --> 01:24:34.240]  This would have been a great suit to bring before the conviction
[01:24:34.240 --> 01:24:37.240]  so as to give them leverage,
[01:24:37.240 --> 01:24:45.240]  give them reason to give you something real light to plead to in return for the suit.
[01:24:45.240 --> 01:24:48.240]  But you don't think that she'll be able to use this after the fact
[01:24:48.240 --> 01:24:50.240]  to get the conviction overturned or anything?
[01:24:50.240 --> 01:24:51.240]  No.
[01:24:51.240 --> 01:24:56.240]  No, now they're just going to cast it in a lot of her being a disgruntled loser.
[01:24:56.240 --> 01:25:00.240]  Prosecutorial misconduct and judicial error.
[01:25:00.240 --> 01:25:04.240]  I've got a hearing set for that on March 25th.
[01:25:04.240 --> 01:25:05.240]  Okay.
[01:25:05.240 --> 01:25:11.240]  You might want to look at raising a lot of issues that occurred after arrest
[01:25:11.240 --> 01:25:15.240]  that were illegal and would give you a right to dismissal.
[01:25:15.240 --> 01:25:16.240]  Okay.
[01:25:16.240 --> 01:25:18.240]  And we got a lot of them.
[01:25:18.240 --> 01:25:19.240]  Okay.
[01:25:19.240 --> 01:25:20.240]  How do I find out about them?
[01:25:20.240 --> 01:25:21.240]  Okay.
[01:25:21.240 --> 01:25:24.240]  I have a website, jurisimprudence.com.
[01:25:24.240 --> 01:25:25.240]  Okay.
[01:25:25.240 --> 01:25:28.240]  Go to that, and it comes up with a bunch of frogs on the front.
[01:25:28.240 --> 01:25:31.240]  I call this the frog farm conspiracy.
[01:25:31.240 --> 01:25:32.240]  Okay.
[01:25:32.240 --> 01:25:37.240]  Top frog on the left goes to a writ of habeas corpus.
[01:25:37.240 --> 01:25:38.240]  Okay.
[01:25:38.240 --> 01:25:42.240]  I wrote this for a kid in Montgomery County,
[01:25:42.240 --> 01:25:46.240]  but it walks through Texas due process top to bottom.
[01:25:46.240 --> 01:25:47.240]  Okay.
[01:25:47.240 --> 01:25:48.240]  Jurisim, what?
[01:25:48.240 --> 01:25:49.240]  Say that again.
[01:25:49.240 --> 01:25:54.240]  Jurisimprudence, like jurisprudence except jurisimprudence.
[01:25:54.240 --> 01:25:55.240]  Okay.
[01:25:55.240 --> 01:25:56.240]  Imprudence.
[01:25:56.240 --> 01:25:57.240]  Yes.
[01:25:57.240 --> 01:25:58.240]  Dot com, yes.
[01:25:58.240 --> 01:25:59.240]  Dot com.
[01:25:59.240 --> 01:26:00.240]  Okay.
[01:26:00.240 --> 01:26:04.240]  And when you read this, you'll think I'm talking about your arrest.
[01:26:04.240 --> 01:26:07.240]  Well, why didn't you talk about that earlier?
[01:26:07.240 --> 01:26:12.240]  Well, you were discussing other issues, so I'm glad you did call back,
[01:26:12.240 --> 01:26:14.240]  so we got to go to this one.
[01:26:14.240 --> 01:26:21.240]  Frankly, your other call, I hate calls like this where I don't have an easy answer.
[01:26:21.240 --> 01:26:22.240]  Uh-huh.
[01:26:22.240 --> 01:26:24.240]  It gives me stress.
[01:26:24.240 --> 01:26:27.240]  There was another call, Gail, that calls in,
[01:26:27.240 --> 01:26:33.240]  and she terrified me when she first started calling in because, like you,
[01:26:33.240 --> 01:26:37.240]  what she was calling in about was so serious,
[01:26:37.240 --> 01:26:42.240]  and I'm terrified about giving the wrong direction.
[01:26:42.240 --> 01:26:43.240]  Uh-huh.
[01:26:43.240 --> 01:26:44.240]  I hate to say advice.
[01:26:44.240 --> 01:26:45.240]  We can't give advice.
[01:26:45.240 --> 01:26:46.240]  That would be fun.
[01:26:46.240 --> 01:26:47.240]  I understand.
[01:26:47.240 --> 01:26:48.240]  But direction.
[01:26:48.240 --> 01:26:49.240]  You're on your website now.
[01:26:49.240 --> 01:26:50.240]  This is serious.
[01:26:50.240 --> 01:26:54.240]  Allegations don't go to the merits.
[01:26:54.240 --> 01:26:55.240]  Okay.
[01:26:55.240 --> 01:27:03.240]  They go to the due process, to the rights you had after arrest that they violated.
[01:27:03.240 --> 01:27:04.240]  Okay.
[01:27:04.240 --> 01:27:10.240]  And if you have a good attorney, if you'll look at these,
[01:27:10.240 --> 01:27:16.240]  and if he wants to contact me, I can talk to him about how to adjudicate him.
[01:27:16.240 --> 01:27:17.240]  Okay.
[01:27:17.240 --> 01:27:21.240]  He can put some pressure on these guys and maybe get the whole thing turned over.
[01:27:21.240 --> 01:27:22.240]  Okay.
[01:27:22.240 --> 01:27:24.240]  For technical reasons.
[01:27:24.240 --> 01:27:25.240]  Okay.
[01:27:25.240 --> 01:27:26.240]  That sounds good.
[01:27:26.240 --> 01:27:28.240]  But get that document and read it.
[01:27:28.240 --> 01:27:30.240]  It's about 50 pages.
[01:27:30.240 --> 01:27:34.240]  And you're talking about the one on the writ of habeas corpus,
[01:27:34.240 --> 01:27:36.240]  a brief on due course of law?
[01:27:36.240 --> 01:27:37.240]  Yes.
[01:27:37.240 --> 01:27:38.240]  Yes, ma'am.
[01:27:38.240 --> 01:27:39.240]  Okay.
[01:27:39.240 --> 01:27:40.240]  I will look that up.
[01:27:40.240 --> 01:27:41.240]  I'll click on that frog.
[01:27:41.240 --> 01:27:44.240]  I've got him right now.
[01:27:44.240 --> 01:27:45.240]  Okay.
[01:27:45.240 --> 01:27:46.240]  Just don't hurt my frog.
[01:27:46.240 --> 01:27:47.240]  Okay.
[01:27:47.240 --> 01:27:50.240]  Don't you be dissecting my frog.
[01:27:50.240 --> 01:27:54.240]  They look pretty healthy.
[01:27:54.240 --> 01:27:57.240]  Okay, Mike, so what else do you have for us?
[01:27:57.240 --> 01:28:03.240]  Well, actually, this question is for you, Deborah.
[01:28:03.240 --> 01:28:04.240]  Okay.
[01:28:04.240 --> 01:28:09.240]  I have a very close friend.
[01:28:09.240 --> 01:28:18.240]  He and his wife just had a baby, and two days after she gave birth, she got an infection.
[01:28:18.240 --> 01:28:22.240]  She got a strep A infection.
[01:28:22.240 --> 01:28:25.240]  And she is in the hospital right now.
[01:28:25.240 --> 01:28:27.240]  She's in a coma right now.
[01:28:27.240 --> 01:28:31.240]  They've had to do all kinds of surgery on her.
[01:28:31.240 --> 01:28:37.240]  And these are two of the best people in the world that I've ever met.
[01:28:37.240 --> 01:28:48.240]  And I wanted to ask you if it was okay if I plug a website where people can make donations to help them
[01:28:48.240 --> 01:28:50.240]  because they really need help.
[01:28:50.240 --> 01:28:51.240]  It's really serious.
[01:28:51.240 --> 01:28:52.240]  Of course.
[01:28:52.240 --> 01:28:53.240]  Sure.
[01:28:53.240 --> 01:28:54.240]  Go ahead.
[01:28:54.240 --> 01:28:55.240]  Okay.
[01:28:55.240 --> 01:29:06.240]  As a matter of fact, the music track on the Hemp USA spot on that ad, Al is the guy who did the music on that.
[01:29:06.240 --> 01:29:11.240]  He composed it, played it, and recorded it.
[01:29:11.240 --> 01:29:15.240]  And I was actually on the phone with Tom when he did the voiceover on it.
[01:29:15.240 --> 01:29:16.240]  Great.
[01:29:16.240 --> 01:29:17.240]  Well, go ahead.
[01:29:17.240 --> 01:29:18.240]  Give us the website.
[01:29:18.240 --> 01:29:19.240]  Okay.
[01:29:19.240 --> 01:29:24.240]  The website is my44music.com.
[01:29:24.240 --> 01:29:31.240]  That's my44, the number 44, music.com.
[01:29:31.240 --> 01:29:36.240]  And make sure you donate to Rule of Law Radio first.
[01:29:36.240 --> 01:29:43.240]  And if you can help out my friend Al and Katie, they're the most wonderful people in the world.
[01:29:43.240 --> 01:29:45.240]  And I really would appreciate it.
[01:29:45.240 --> 01:29:46.240]  All right.
[01:29:46.240 --> 01:29:47.240]  Help out Mike's friends.
[01:29:47.240 --> 01:29:49.240]  Plug that website one more time, Mike.
[01:29:49.240 --> 01:29:53.240]  my44music.com.
[01:29:53.240 --> 01:29:55.240]  Okay, Mike, do you have anything else for us?
[01:29:55.240 --> 01:29:56.240]  We're going to break.
[01:29:56.240 --> 01:29:57.240]  No.
[01:29:57.240 --> 01:29:58.240]  Okay, great.
[01:29:58.240 --> 01:29:59.240]  Okay.
[01:29:59.240 --> 01:30:02.240]  We'll be right back.
[01:30:30.240 --> 01:30:33.240]  We'll be right back.
[01:30:33.240 --> 01:31:01.240]  Thank you.
[01:31:03.240 --> 01:31:04.240]  Thank you.
[01:31:04.240 --> 01:31:31.240]  Thank you.
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[01:32:26.240 --> 01:32:27.240]  Okay.
[01:32:27.240 --> 01:32:28.240]  We are back.
[01:32:28.240 --> 01:32:38.240]  We're going to Ken in Texas, and callers, if you'd like to call in, 512-646-1984, we got a half an hour left.
[01:32:38.240 --> 01:32:42.240]  All right, Ken, thanks for calling in. What's on your mind tonight? Thanks for patiently holding.
[01:32:42.240 --> 01:32:48.240]  Hi there, Deborah. This is actually, I think, for Randy.
[01:32:48.240 --> 01:33:00.240]  Randy, I was just wondering if you could tell us anything about the Robert Fox trial coming up, and will you be attending?
[01:33:00.240 --> 01:33:02.240]  What trial was that?
[01:33:02.240 --> 01:33:04.240]  Robert Fox's trial.
[01:33:04.240 --> 01:33:10.240]  Oh, no. I won't be attending. They would really like to get their hands on me.
[01:33:10.240 --> 01:33:18.240]  Yeah, there's an arrest warrant, apparently, for Randy in Cherokee County, so he's not going to be going to that trial.
[01:33:18.240 --> 01:33:22.240]  Not unless I got $5,000 cash.
[01:33:22.240 --> 01:33:28.240]  Yeah, the thing is, no one else in any other county in Texas will enforce the warrant.
[01:33:28.240 --> 01:33:32.240]  They don't want to touch it with a 10-foot pole. They don't want anything to do with it.
[01:33:32.240 --> 01:33:44.240]  Well, I didn't mean to bring up the sore spot there, Randy, but is there anything that you could tell the listeners that would be meaningful, anything about this Robert Fox trial, in case they can make it down there?
[01:33:44.240 --> 01:33:51.240]  Well, I'm reluctant to. Robert didn't want to discuss it on the air.
[01:33:51.240 --> 01:33:52.240]  I see.
[01:33:52.240 --> 01:34:01.240]  So I would be reluctant to. If he doesn't want to, it's kind of his call.
[01:34:01.240 --> 01:34:04.240]  He may not be asking for court watchers.
[01:34:04.240 --> 01:34:14.240]  That's why I've never really brought it up, because Robert seemed reluctant to have it aired, so I kind of left it be.
[01:34:14.240 --> 01:34:20.240]  Okay. I guess one last question. Do you know what time it's supposed to start by any chance?
[01:34:20.240 --> 01:34:23.240]  I'm having trouble understanding.
[01:34:23.240 --> 01:34:26.240]  Do you know what time the trial is supposed to start?
[01:34:26.240 --> 01:34:36.240]  Oh, no, I don't. Generally 9 o'clock, but I don't think it's his trial tomorrow. It's a motion hearing.
[01:34:36.240 --> 01:34:43.240]  Okay. Well, that's really all I have for tonight.
[01:34:43.240 --> 01:34:50.240]  Okay. Well, thank you. And I wish I could talk about it, but I have to respect his privacy.
[01:34:50.240 --> 01:34:56.240]  Of course. Thank you.
[01:34:56.240 --> 01:35:06.240]  Okay. Callers, open phone lines 512-646-1984.
[01:35:06.240 --> 01:35:12.240]  So, Randy, did you have something that you wanted to discuss? You were mentioning earlier?
[01:35:12.240 --> 01:35:22.240]  Yes. There was something I wanted to go over with what I'm doing with this real estate thing,
[01:35:22.240 --> 01:35:27.240]  primarily to get information out about how to take these guys on.
[01:35:27.240 --> 01:35:40.240]  I've been working on this for a long time, and I'm familiar with what Steve Skidmore and English Fraud is doing, and this is somewhat different.
[01:35:40.240 --> 01:35:45.240]  Well, it's not that it's different. It arguments what they're doing.
[01:35:45.240 --> 01:35:55.240]  And I wanted to talk about how to handle a delinder.
[01:35:55.240 --> 01:36:05.240]  What I was doing, I was trying to figure out, I was working out the forensic analysis, and it took a while.
[01:36:05.240 --> 01:36:08.240]  Sometimes it takes a while for the lights to come on.
[01:36:08.240 --> 01:36:18.240]  I'm trying to figure out all of the things they're doing wrong, and finally it became clear, why am I trying to figure out what they're doing wrong?
[01:36:18.240 --> 01:36:25.240]  What they're required to do, they're required to do by statute.
[01:36:25.240 --> 01:36:35.240]  So since they're required to do it by statute, I shouldn't have to prove they did it wrong. They should have to prove they did it right.
[01:36:35.240 --> 01:36:42.240]  And what you do is, is you look at, first thing you want to look at is your note.
[01:36:42.240 --> 01:36:49.240]  Take out your note, take your pad of paper and write down the principal and the interest off the note.
[01:36:49.240 --> 01:36:53.240]  And then get out a truth in lending statement.
[01:36:53.240 --> 01:36:58.240]  Truth in lending statement generally has your payment amounts on it.
[01:36:58.240 --> 01:37:05.240]  And write down the principal and interest off the truth in lending statement, compare it to the note.
[01:37:05.240 --> 01:37:16.240]  What you'll generally find is the note has a higher principal by two or three thousand dollars, and less interest.
[01:37:16.240 --> 01:37:23.240]  The truth in lending statement will have a few thousand less on principal, but a higher interest rate.
[01:37:23.240 --> 01:37:30.240]  Now you're required to get that truth in lending statement at least one day before closing, but that never happens.
[01:37:30.240 --> 01:37:39.240]  They sit you down at closing the inch and a half high stack of documents, and it looks incredibly daunting.
[01:37:39.240 --> 01:37:48.240]  But ninety percent of those documents are just disclosures, and they're going to want you to read all of these first.
[01:37:48.240 --> 01:37:53.240]  This is, in psychology, what we would call a reality stack.
[01:37:53.240 --> 01:37:58.240]  They put this disclosure in front of you like it's really important, they want you to read it.
[01:37:58.240 --> 01:38:02.240]  And you read it, and you're still trying to, when you're done, you're still trying to figure out why it's important,
[01:38:02.240 --> 01:38:05.240]  figuring you missed something. And they give you another one, same way.
[01:38:05.240 --> 01:38:11.240]  And after about a dozen of these, you begin to get brain fog.
[01:38:11.240 --> 01:38:15.240]  They run you through all of that, and then they get to the real deal.
[01:38:15.240 --> 01:38:21.240]  You put this note in front of you, truth in lending statement in front of you,
[01:38:21.240 --> 01:38:25.240]  and I just talked to a guy the other day, and he said, I noticed that was different.
[01:38:25.240 --> 01:38:28.240]  I said, well, why didn't you say something about it?
[01:38:28.240 --> 01:38:32.240]  He said, well, I just had so much going, I couldn't keep up with all of it.
[01:38:32.240 --> 01:38:36.240]  That's exactly what they intend.
[01:38:36.240 --> 01:38:48.240]  But what I do with these is you run an amortization on the truth in lending statement.
[01:38:48.240 --> 01:38:54.240]  It'll have what your payments are, so that tends to be what you actually pay.
[01:38:54.240 --> 01:39:02.240]  And then run an amortization on the note and look at the difference in the payment.
[01:39:02.240 --> 01:39:06.240]  The one I did recently had a $58 difference in the payment.
[01:39:06.240 --> 01:39:13.240]  So I took the note amortization because it is the intent of the lender
[01:39:13.240 --> 01:39:16.240]  that you pay the amount on the truth in lending.
[01:39:16.240 --> 01:39:20.240]  Well, if that amount's higher than it should be, then you pay an extra every month.
[01:39:20.240 --> 01:39:26.240]  So you take the note, and whatever the difference in the payments are,
[01:39:26.240 --> 01:39:28.240]  the note's what you should be paying.
[01:39:28.240 --> 01:39:34.240]  So if you're paying more, you subtract it, take the result,
[01:39:34.240 --> 01:39:42.240]  and subtract it from the principal each month from the note side
[01:39:42.240 --> 01:39:48.240]  and run that for 30 years or whatever the term of the note is.
[01:39:48.240 --> 01:40:02.240]  On this particular one, we looked at a $118,000 note, 6%, $115,000 on the truth in lending, 6.5%.
[01:40:02.240 --> 01:40:10.240]  If they'd have paid out the amount on the truth in lending statement for 30 years,
[01:40:10.240 --> 01:40:14.240]  you would have paid $41,000 extra.
[01:40:14.240 --> 01:40:21.240]  So when you sit down at closing and you look at these numbers and they look slightly different,
[01:40:21.240 --> 01:40:27.240]  half a percent makes a lot of difference.
[01:40:27.240 --> 01:40:32.240]  Now, if you just ran the two notes and then compared how much you pay,
[01:40:32.240 --> 01:40:40.240]  it won't give you an accurate result because you're actually paying too much every month.
[01:40:40.240 --> 01:40:49.240]  If you run the note, just run a 30-year amortization on it, you're not paying extra interest.
[01:40:49.240 --> 01:40:53.240]  You take that extra payment off the top, pull it off the principal,
[01:40:53.240 --> 01:40:57.240]  next month you don't pay interest on that $50.
[01:40:57.240 --> 01:41:01.240]  Next month it's $100 you don't pay interest in.
[01:41:01.240 --> 01:41:07.240]  And then it's over $600 a year. That adds up quickly.
[01:41:07.240 --> 01:41:11.240]  So the amount you should be paying reduces even more.
[01:41:11.240 --> 01:41:15.240]  So it adds up to a considerable amount.
[01:41:15.240 --> 01:41:21.240]  So what I did with these, the first thing I did was run that comparison.
[01:41:21.240 --> 01:41:30.240]  Occasionally you'll find one where the truth in lending and the note are exactly the same.
[01:41:30.240 --> 01:41:34.240]  Then you look at the settlement statement.
[01:41:34.240 --> 01:41:43.240]  The lender is only allowed to pay the broker 1% interest.
[01:41:43.240 --> 01:41:46.240]  It's the maximum amount of commission he's allowed to pay him.
[01:41:46.240 --> 01:41:51.240]  And the reason for this is the broker is supposed to be your representative.
[01:41:51.240 --> 01:41:55.240]  He's supposed to find you the best deal.
[01:41:55.240 --> 01:42:02.240]  If the lender is able to pay the broker anything, any amount of commissions he wants,
[01:42:02.240 --> 01:42:06.240]  the broker is not going to find you the best deal.
[01:42:06.240 --> 01:42:09.240]  He's going to find himself the best deal.
[01:42:09.240 --> 01:42:18.240]  And the lender would like to pay the broker extra to bring the lender good loans,
[01:42:18.240 --> 01:42:22.240]  higher principal, higher interest.
[01:42:22.240 --> 01:42:29.240]  And they call it upselling where the lender pays the broker to bring them a client
[01:42:29.240 --> 01:42:36.240]  convinced to take a note higher than what they qualify for.
[01:42:36.240 --> 01:42:41.240]  So they all make more money for free, so they want to give a little back to the broker to do that.
[01:42:41.240 --> 01:42:46.240]  Well, the Congress said not supposed to happen.
[01:42:46.240 --> 01:42:48.240]  1%, that's it.
[01:42:48.240 --> 01:42:51.240]  So all of the lenders are on an even playing field.
[01:42:51.240 --> 01:42:59.240]  So it's not in the broker's best interest to use one lender or another
[01:42:59.240 --> 01:43:02.240]  so he will tend to get his client the best deal.
[01:43:02.240 --> 01:43:05.240]  Well, that's not how it happens.
[01:43:05.240 --> 01:43:14.240]  What they do is add fees to the settlement statement that aren't allowed.
[01:43:14.240 --> 01:43:20.240]  The only fee they can charge you at settlement are the fees that you would have to pay
[01:43:20.240 --> 01:43:29.240]  if you purchased the building in cash, title search, appraisal, these sorts of things,
[01:43:29.240 --> 01:43:35.240]  or those fees that they would have to pay a third-party vendor.
[01:43:35.240 --> 01:43:36.240]  All right, Randy, we're going to break.
[01:43:36.240 --> 01:43:39.240]  Plug your Web site so people can get more information.
[01:43:39.240 --> 01:43:42.240]  No, that's not why I'm doing this.
[01:43:42.240 --> 01:43:44.240]  I want them to understand the information.
[01:43:44.240 --> 01:43:46.240]  Okay, well, if you don't want to plug your Web site, that's fine.
[01:43:46.240 --> 01:43:50.240]  We are going to break and we have two callers on the board,
[01:43:50.240 --> 01:43:53.240]  so let's go to the callers and we get back on the other side.
[01:43:53.240 --> 01:43:55.240]  This is the rule of law.
[01:43:55.240 --> 01:44:02.240]  We will be right back.
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[01:45:40.240 --> 01:45:41.240]  Okay, we are back.
[01:45:41.240 --> 01:45:43.240]  We are almost at the end of the show.
[01:45:43.240 --> 01:45:44.240]  We are coming down the homestretch here.
[01:45:44.240 --> 01:45:47.240]  We have got two more callers, Josh and Gary.
[01:45:47.240 --> 01:45:49.240]  And Randy, you changed your mind.
[01:45:49.240 --> 01:45:51.240]  You did want to plug your website and then we will go to Josh.
[01:45:51.240 --> 01:45:56.240]  Okay, I was doing this in deference to Steve and Neil
[01:45:56.240 --> 01:45:59.240]  because when I got into this I did not know what they were doing.
[01:45:59.240 --> 01:46:03.240]  And we wound up doing the same things and I was trying not to step on each other.
[01:46:03.240 --> 01:46:06.240]  But apparently we are going to lose those guys.
[01:46:06.240 --> 01:46:09.240]  Well, they are very busy.
[01:46:09.240 --> 01:46:13.240]  I wanted to let them make the announcement, Randy,
[01:46:13.240 --> 01:46:15.240]  because they have not made the announcement yet.
[01:46:15.240 --> 01:46:17.240]  Oh, I am sorry.
[01:46:17.240 --> 01:46:20.240]  I will just call Steve a chump then.
[01:46:20.240 --> 01:46:24.240]  It will be one of my last chances to chump Steve on the air.
[01:46:24.240 --> 01:46:35.240]  Anyway, my website is remediesinrealestate.com.
[01:46:35.240 --> 01:46:37.240]  Okay, let me go on.
[01:46:37.240 --> 01:46:39.240]  This is about how to handle...
[01:46:39.240 --> 01:46:42.240]  Okay, and quickly because we have two calls left and this is our last segment.
[01:46:42.240 --> 01:46:44.240]  Okay, I will tell you what.
[01:46:44.240 --> 01:46:47.240]  Why do not we do this next Friday?
[01:46:47.240 --> 01:46:50.240]  Yes, because we have got 12 minutes left and I want to be able to take these two calls.
[01:46:50.240 --> 01:46:53.240]  Let us take the callers and then I will do this next Friday.
[01:46:53.240 --> 01:46:55.240]  Yes, because I just wanted you to quickly plug your website.
[01:46:55.240 --> 01:46:56.240]  That was all.
[01:46:56.240 --> 01:47:00.240]  And it would not be in that much of conflict to Endless Fraud Detection anyway
[01:47:00.240 --> 01:47:04.240]  because what they do and what you are doing is very different.
[01:47:04.240 --> 01:47:07.240]  So it is not really that much competition.
[01:47:07.240 --> 01:47:08.240]  You all are really competing.
[01:47:08.240 --> 01:47:11.240]  Okay, we are going to go to Josh in Austin, a first-time caller.
[01:47:11.240 --> 01:47:12.240]  Josh, thanks for calling in.
[01:47:12.240 --> 01:47:14.240]  What is on your mind tonight?
[01:47:14.240 --> 01:47:15.240]  Thanks for having me this evening.
[01:47:15.240 --> 01:47:17.240]  I am a huge fan of you guys.
[01:47:17.240 --> 01:47:21.240]  Randy, you flipped me on a few years ago when I heard you talking law.
[01:47:21.240 --> 01:47:22.240]  It makes me laugh, your interpretation.
[01:47:22.240 --> 01:47:24.240]  I like it.
[01:47:24.240 --> 01:47:26.240]  Thank you.
[01:47:26.240 --> 01:47:30.240]  My attorney, I have a case right now in Travis County Court,
[01:47:30.240 --> 01:47:34.240]  driving with license invalid, which is kind of a specious charge.
[01:47:34.240 --> 01:47:38.240]  As we all know, I am not in commerce and I do not need a license.
[01:47:38.240 --> 01:47:42.240]  My attorney is your favorite, Brian Guerra,
[01:47:42.240 --> 01:47:49.240]  and he does not understand where I am coming from when I want him to present my case.
[01:47:49.240 --> 01:47:53.240]  He keeps showing me these cheater textbooks of the law
[01:47:53.240 --> 01:47:57.240]  and not the actual code book that has definitions in it.
[01:47:57.240 --> 01:48:02.240]  He says, see right here, this is the one that says you have to have a driver's license.
[01:48:02.240 --> 01:48:03.240]  It is everybody.
[01:48:03.240 --> 01:48:05.240]  I said, no, Brian, you need to break out the definitions.
[01:48:05.240 --> 01:48:07.240]  We need to go through that statute and read it
[01:48:07.240 --> 01:48:11.240]  and see that an operator is someone in commerce and that is not me.
[01:48:11.240 --> 01:48:13.240]  He does not want to hear my points of view
[01:48:13.240 --> 01:48:20.240]  and he thinks I am just a crazy freedom-loving person.
[01:48:20.240 --> 01:48:23.240]  He does not really want to prosecute my case.
[01:48:23.240 --> 01:48:26.240]  Is this attorney a personal friend of yours?
[01:48:26.240 --> 01:48:28.240]  No, no, no.
[01:48:28.240 --> 01:48:32.240]  Then you might want to tell him what I told my attorney.
[01:48:32.240 --> 01:48:40.240]  You will either adequately adjudicate every single one of my due process rights
[01:48:40.240 --> 01:48:46.240]  or I will file a bar grievance against you for each one you do not.
[01:48:46.240 --> 01:48:50.240]  And I guarantee you that got his attention.
[01:48:50.240 --> 01:48:51.240]  Okay.
[01:48:51.240 --> 01:48:57.240]  He got real excited and hammered them so bad that we went out to lunch
[01:48:57.240 --> 01:49:02.240]  and they snuck in behind us at lunch and moved for a continuance.
[01:49:02.240 --> 01:49:07.240]  I had told him, you tell them don't you dare try to get a continuance unless it is,
[01:49:07.240 --> 01:49:11.240]  I mean, a dismissal, unless it is a dismissal with prejudice.
[01:49:11.240 --> 01:49:15.240]  Yeah, basically he has got me to the point where it is a plea bargain
[01:49:15.240 --> 01:49:18.240]  and down to 10 hours of community service
[01:49:18.240 --> 01:49:21.240]  and it will be moved down to the misdemeanor court and out of the county
[01:49:21.240 --> 01:49:25.240]  and it will be a failure to present with a plea bargain.
[01:49:25.240 --> 01:49:27.240]  But again, it goes back to the I feel like I am innocent
[01:49:27.240 --> 01:49:31.240]  and I don't need to ask the government's permission to move.
[01:49:31.240 --> 01:49:32.240]  Okay.
[01:49:32.240 --> 01:49:36.240]  Well, first question is are you willing to argue it yourself?
[01:49:36.240 --> 01:49:38.240]  Yeah, absolutely.
[01:49:38.240 --> 01:49:39.240]  Okay.
[01:49:39.240 --> 01:49:45.240]  Go to the January 11th and the January 18th archive for rule of law.
[01:49:45.240 --> 01:49:52.240]  On the January 11th, I go over the specifics of exactly how to voir dire an officer
[01:49:52.240 --> 01:49:54.240]  regarding a driver's license.
[01:49:54.240 --> 01:49:55.240]  Okay.
[01:49:55.240 --> 01:50:02.240]  And on the 18th, I go over the problem of having an attorney do anything for you to begin with.
[01:50:02.240 --> 01:50:03.240]  Okay.
[01:50:03.240 --> 01:50:10.240]  That part I am aware of and I know from hearing you guys quite often before
[01:50:10.240 --> 01:50:16.240]  that there should be some motions I should file to let the court know that he is just assisting me
[01:50:16.240 --> 01:50:17.240]  and that I retain all my rights.
[01:50:17.240 --> 01:50:19.240]  What is that?
[01:50:19.240 --> 01:50:21.240]  What is that motion called?
[01:50:21.240 --> 01:50:23.240]  Look on my website.
[01:50:23.240 --> 01:50:28.240]  It is titled in the blank section, non-waiver.
[01:50:28.240 --> 01:50:30.240]  Okay.
[01:50:30.240 --> 01:50:39.240]  It is non-waiver, but it is really by telling the judge, oh, is your attorney court appointed?
[01:50:39.240 --> 01:50:41.240]  I paid for him.
[01:50:41.240 --> 01:50:42.240]  You paid him?
[01:50:42.240 --> 01:50:43.240]  Yeah.
[01:50:43.240 --> 01:50:44.240]  Bummer.
[01:50:44.240 --> 01:50:46.240]  That makes it tougher.
[01:50:46.240 --> 01:50:47.240]  Okay.
[01:50:47.240 --> 01:50:52.240]  If you hammer your attorney, he is going to want to resign, but since this is criminal,
[01:50:52.240 --> 01:50:55.240]  you have a right to counsel your choice.
[01:50:55.240 --> 01:51:01.240]  The first thing I told my attorney is he was telling me how things were going to work,
[01:51:01.240 --> 01:51:03.240]  and I told him, no, this is how it is going to work.
[01:51:03.240 --> 01:51:07.240]  You are going to go to the judge and try to get the judge to remove you from the case,
[01:51:07.240 --> 01:51:11.240]  and I am going to go to the judge and tell her, don't you dare remove him from this case,
[01:51:11.240 --> 01:51:15.240]  and she is going to remove you, and when she does, I am going to sue her.
[01:51:15.240 --> 01:51:17.240]  Bar grieve?
[01:51:17.240 --> 01:51:22.240]  No, I didn't tell him bar grieve yet, but he is looking at me.
[01:51:22.240 --> 01:51:25.240]  This guy is going to use me so he can sue the judge.
[01:51:25.240 --> 01:51:27.240]  He is going to get me disbarred.
[01:51:27.240 --> 01:51:33.240]  It was later that night I told him I was going to bar grieve him, and it terrified him.
[01:51:33.240 --> 01:51:37.240]  He made noise about a bar grievance, and he got shaky, and I feel kind of bad
[01:51:37.240 --> 01:51:41.240]  about taking someone's career away from him like that.
[01:51:41.240 --> 01:51:44.240]  He has no problem with stealing your money.
[01:51:44.240 --> 01:51:50.240]  He has no problem having somebody go to jail that should go out on the street.
[01:51:50.240 --> 01:51:54.240]  He won't risk his bar card for your liberty.
[01:51:54.240 --> 01:52:00.240]  His adherence to the law and the procedures needs to be absolute.
[01:52:00.240 --> 01:52:07.240]  I keep saying on the show here, it is never my intent to harm anybody.
[01:52:07.240 --> 01:52:11.240]  I don't want to cross his career, but I do want him to represent me as I see fit,
[01:52:11.240 --> 01:52:16.240]  and I want him to present the case that I believe is correct.
[01:52:16.240 --> 01:52:18.240]  There is so much case law floating around about it.
[01:52:18.240 --> 01:52:22.240]  I sent him foresight of case law that states pretty specifically that the state of Texas holds
[01:52:22.240 --> 01:52:27.240]  there is no such thing as a driver's license, and he is like, that is neat case law,
[01:52:27.240 --> 01:52:29.240]  but this is the statute.
[01:52:29.240 --> 01:52:34.240]  Okay, listen, if he gets harmed, you know, that is collateral damage.
[01:52:34.240 --> 01:52:36.240]  He is cannon fodder.
[01:52:36.240 --> 01:52:40.240]  It is not my intent to harm the attorney.
[01:52:40.240 --> 01:52:42.240]  I am just going to follow the thunder.
[01:52:42.240 --> 01:52:48.240]  If he doesn't do his job and gets harmed in the process, you know, life is tough, guy.
[01:52:48.240 --> 01:52:50.240]  He makes his choices.
[01:52:50.240 --> 01:52:55.240]  I am kind of fine with that attitude, and I am definitely, because, you know,
[01:52:55.240 --> 01:52:59.240]  that is the liberty we are dealing with and me getting built by the system that we are dealing with
[01:52:59.240 --> 01:53:04.240]  and him being a minion of the system and not a representative of his people.
[01:53:04.240 --> 01:53:07.240]  I think, yeah, probably that is the best way to go.
[01:53:07.240 --> 01:53:09.240]  There is more to it than that.
[01:53:09.240 --> 01:53:14.240]  You kick this attorney in his teeth and make him do his job.
[01:53:14.240 --> 01:53:16.240]  I just kicked one in his teeth.
[01:53:16.240 --> 01:53:20.240]  If we can get half a dozen people doing this to these attorneys,
[01:53:20.240 --> 01:53:23.240]  they are all going to start saying, hold on here.
[01:53:23.240 --> 01:53:29.240]  Whoa, guys, we cannot afford to lose our career just to kiss the judge's behinds.
[01:53:29.240 --> 01:53:34.240]  Yeah, why don't the attorneys actually want to make money and have a profitable record?
[01:53:34.240 --> 01:53:36.240]  Why don't they embrace your tactics?
[01:53:36.240 --> 01:53:39.240]  Because the judge will put them out of business.
[01:53:39.240 --> 01:53:44.240]  That is why the judge will screw their next client, and it will give them a bad reputation.
[01:53:44.240 --> 01:53:46.240]  They will not be able to get clients anymore.
[01:53:46.240 --> 01:53:47.240]  That is why.
[01:53:47.240 --> 01:53:54.240]  So what this non-waiver does is puts the judge on notice and your attorney on notice.
[01:53:54.240 --> 01:54:00.240]  So in effect, it tells the judge, this attorney has an unruly client.
[01:54:00.240 --> 01:54:01.240]  Right.
[01:54:01.240 --> 01:54:07.240]  And this client is going to end that attorney's career, so now you have to protect the attorney.
[01:54:07.240 --> 01:54:12.240]  Yes, and so that gives the attorney plausible deniability to basically go to the judge and say,
[01:54:12.240 --> 01:54:17.240]  look, I am sorry, I have to do this, I am in between a rock and a hard place.
[01:54:17.240 --> 01:54:21.240]  But if the attorneys just do it on their own without us forcing their hand,
[01:54:21.240 --> 01:54:23.240]  the judges will put them out of business.
[01:54:23.240 --> 01:54:24.240]  They will screw their next clients.
[01:54:24.240 --> 01:54:30.240]  But see, we as pro-says, we do not have to worry about that because we do not have clients.
[01:54:30.240 --> 01:54:36.240]  You should have seen this guy when the prosecutor dismissed the case.
[01:54:36.240 --> 01:54:39.240]  He was doing his best not to jump up and down.
[01:54:39.240 --> 01:54:44.240]  He was trying to keep his composure, but clearly he was giddy.
[01:54:44.240 --> 01:54:47.240]  He just whooped their behinds.
[01:54:47.240 --> 01:54:49.240]  So he was pleased.
[01:54:49.240 --> 01:54:52.240]  And the innocent or, you know, what happened to an innocent plea?
[01:54:52.240 --> 01:54:55.240]  Why is it guilty, not guilty or no contention?
[01:54:55.240 --> 01:54:57.240]  I do not understand that.
[01:54:57.240 --> 01:55:01.240]  Well, listen, also, Josh, you can stay on the line if you want, but I want to bring up Gary.
[01:55:01.240 --> 01:55:04.240]  We got literally three minutes left and I want to take this last call.
[01:55:04.240 --> 01:55:05.240]  Absolutely.
[01:55:05.240 --> 01:55:10.240]  Hey, just before I go, I wanted to tell you that you guys received an e-mail from my girlfriend a few weeks ago
[01:55:10.240 --> 01:55:16.240]  about her getting surreptitiously taken up in a SWAT raid with the Round Rock Police in Austin.
[01:55:16.240 --> 01:55:19.240]  And you guys sent her an e-mail back.
[01:55:19.240 --> 01:55:21.240]  She wants to call in, but we do not have the time for it today.
[01:55:21.240 --> 01:55:22.240]  Okay.
[01:55:22.240 --> 01:55:23.240]  All right.
[01:55:23.240 --> 01:55:25.240]  Well, then call in next week then.
[01:55:25.240 --> 01:55:26.240]  Absolutely.
[01:55:26.240 --> 01:55:29.240]  And I will shoot you guys an e-mail and hopefully you can maybe give me a little flow chart.
[01:55:29.240 --> 01:55:30.240]  Okay, great.
[01:55:30.240 --> 01:55:31.240]  Start getting motion spot.
[01:55:31.240 --> 01:55:32.240]  Okay, awesome.
[01:55:32.240 --> 01:55:34.240]  We appreciate your help and bless you for all you guys do.
[01:55:34.240 --> 01:55:35.240]  All right.
[01:55:35.240 --> 01:55:36.240]  Thank you, Josh.
[01:55:36.240 --> 01:55:38.240]  Okay, we are going to go now to Gary in Texas.
[01:55:38.240 --> 01:55:40.240]  Sorry, Gary, we do not have much time left.
[01:55:40.240 --> 01:55:41.240]  What is on your mind?
[01:55:41.240 --> 01:55:42.240]  Not much.
[01:55:42.240 --> 01:55:46.240]  I just was listening to what Randy was talking about, his truth and lending on his settlement
[01:55:46.240 --> 01:55:52.240]  statements and stuff, and kind of giving a place to look and look under the appraisal fee.
[01:55:52.240 --> 01:55:58.240]  And when you look under the appraisal fee and it shows that it is, I will throw out a figure here, $500,
[01:55:58.240 --> 01:56:04.240]  you really need to get back and look at what is happening is since this new law came into
[01:56:04.240 --> 01:56:11.240]  effect last May that is called HVCC, this new law came into effect that you have to
[01:56:11.240 --> 01:56:17.240]  go through appraisal management company, which are owned by the lenders, which they get like
[01:56:17.240 --> 01:56:19.240]  50% of that appraisal fee.
[01:56:19.240 --> 01:56:24.240]  So, you go back and you look at that $500 fee and then only $250 went to the appraiser
[01:56:24.240 --> 01:56:28.240]  and actually $250 went back to the lender, which adds back to that.
[01:56:28.240 --> 01:56:30.240]  That is perfect.
[01:56:30.240 --> 01:56:33.240]  I have not got to researching out appraisals yet.
[01:56:33.240 --> 01:56:38.240]  There is appraisal in escrow I have got to do some detailed work on.
[01:56:38.240 --> 01:56:40.240]  That is exactly the kinds of things.
[01:56:40.240 --> 01:56:43.240]  Next Friday I will get to a lot of that.
[01:56:43.240 --> 01:56:47.240]  Okay, I am a broker and I have got about 30 years in it and I am an appraiser and I have
[01:56:47.240 --> 01:56:49.240]  got about 30 years at that too.
[01:56:49.240 --> 01:56:52.240]  Oh, I am definitely going to want to talk to you.
[01:56:52.240 --> 01:56:56.240]  We have talked about other stuff, but I was listening to what you had to say and I will
[01:56:56.240 --> 01:56:58.240]  be glad to help you out in any way I can.
[01:56:58.240 --> 01:56:59.240]  I know settlement statements.
[01:56:59.240 --> 01:57:00.240]  Oh, wonderful.
[01:57:00.240 --> 01:57:03.240]  I am not an attorney, but I can help you out.
[01:57:03.240 --> 01:57:06.240]  Oh, wait until you find out what I am doing with the settlement statement.
[01:57:06.240 --> 01:57:08.240]  You are going to love this.
[01:57:08.240 --> 01:57:09.240]  Give me a call.
[01:57:09.240 --> 01:57:11.240]  Okay, send me an email.
[01:57:11.240 --> 01:57:13.240]  Okay, I will do it.
[01:57:13.240 --> 01:57:14.240]  Take care and I enjoy your program.
[01:57:14.240 --> 01:57:15.240]  It is wonderful.
[01:57:15.240 --> 01:57:17.240]  I never miss any of them.
[01:57:17.240 --> 01:57:18.240]  Thank you.
[01:57:18.240 --> 01:57:19.240]  You bet.
[01:57:19.240 --> 01:57:20.240]  Bye-bye.
[01:57:20.240 --> 01:57:22.240]  Okay, I guess that is it.
[01:57:22.240 --> 01:57:23.240]  All right, we are about at the end of the show.
[01:57:23.240 --> 01:57:25.240]  We have got about a minute and a half left.
[01:57:25.240 --> 01:57:28.240]  So, folks, I just want to thank you all for listening.
[01:57:28.240 --> 01:57:34.240]  And if you are in Austin, don't forget to go out tomorrow to Darwin Betteker's gun show,
[01:57:34.240 --> 01:57:36.240]  texasgunshows.net.
[01:57:36.240 --> 01:57:39.240]  You can download a coupon and get a dollar off.
[01:57:39.240 --> 01:57:41.240]  Admission is $7.
[01:57:41.240 --> 01:57:46.240]  If you buy your ticket on Saturday, you get in for free on Sunday in case you see something that you like
[01:57:46.240 --> 01:57:51.240]  and you need to go home and think about it or discuss the situation with your better half,
[01:57:51.240 --> 01:57:54.240]  you know, look at your finances, et cetera, these sort of things.
[01:57:54.240 --> 01:57:57.240]  Or if you just want to go back and hang out and meet more people,
[01:57:57.240 --> 01:58:04.240]  please make sure you go out to the gun show and support Darwin and support the community.
[01:58:04.240 --> 01:58:09.240]  So, I want to thank you all for your support of Rule of Law Radio
[01:58:09.240 --> 01:58:13.240]  and the people at 9.1 FM also thank you.
[01:58:13.240 --> 01:58:18.240]  So, with that, I guess we will see you all on Monday.
[01:58:18.240 --> 01:58:25.240]  And don't forget to tune in to Gary Johnson's Live and Let Live Sunday evening at 8 PM Central Time.
[01:58:25.240 --> 01:58:47.240]  We'll see you all on Monday evening.
[01:58:55.240 --> 01:59:22.240]  We'll see you all on Monday evening.
[01:59:22.240 --> 01:59:46.240]  Thank you.
[01:59:46.240 --> 02:00:00.240]  Thank you.