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[01:52.880 --> 01:58.080]  The New York Times reports Lebanese Ali al-Jarrah was regarded as an earnest supporter of the
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[02:20.760 --> 02:22.560]  second wife.
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[02:57.600 --> 03:12.600]  Yeah, and who you want to chip, who you think you're free to leave, who you want to chip,
[03:12.600 --> 03:17.600]  I'm not free to leave, you can't chip me, I'm a spy, don't let them chip you in the
[03:17.600 --> 03:20.600]  morning, chip you in the evening, put a chip in your body, and then when you go computer
[03:20.600 --> 03:21.600]  reading, you can't hide, me say from nobody, what me say, chip in your mom, chip in your
[03:21.600 --> 03:26.600]  daddy, chip in your grandpa and your granny, chip in me, chip in your baby, chip in your
[03:26.600 --> 03:31.600]  whole family, chip in your dad and the kids around me, chip in the beef and you still
[03:31.600 --> 03:36.600]  go eat it, chip in the fish, them all in the sea, chip in the shark and the whale around
[03:36.600 --> 03:42.600]  me, you see mankind gone chip crazy, chip in your team and they want to read it, social
[03:42.600 --> 03:46.600]  security, them go tell me, number with them give me, them repeat up you see, I'm chip
[03:46.600 --> 03:52.600]  you in the morning, chip you in the evening, chip you all the dinner time, experiment on
[03:52.600 --> 03:58.600]  mankind, but man you know say them lie, well when they want no chip man you have your body,
[03:58.600 --> 04:03.600]  freedom or something man you fight for me, you should tell them they should read it,
[04:03.600 --> 04:09.600]  constitution set us free, planted them put no chip in your body, put no chip in you dog
[04:09.600 --> 04:14.600]  or cat you see, no put no chip in your cow and go eat it, no put no chip in the fish
[04:14.600 --> 04:19.600]  and go eat it, all in the whale and the shark in the sea, put the little chip in the little
[04:19.600 --> 04:24.600]  baby, they're not going to put no chip in my baby, that's for sure, well I don't have
[04:24.600 --> 04:28.600]  any children, but the nearest thing I have to a baby is my cat and it ain't going to
[04:28.600 --> 04:32.600]  happen, I'll tell you that right now, I ain't going to put it in me either, I buy no products
[04:32.600 --> 04:37.600]  that have no chips, none of it, I won't have any of it at all, so that was Dr. Catherine
[04:37.600 --> 04:44.600]  Albrecht talking about the evils of the RFID chips, all the damage it does, the philosophical
[04:44.600 --> 04:54.600]  and ethical, moral, diabolical reasons not to allow it, period, and use Xquick, don't
[04:54.600 --> 04:59.600]  use Google, all of these kinds of things, so great interview, she stayed an hour extra,
[04:59.600 --> 05:03.600]  she gave us two hours tonight and that was just excellent because she does a daily show
[05:03.600 --> 05:07.600]  anyway, she's already been on the air two hours today already, so we really appreciate
[05:07.600 --> 05:12.600]  that, we have callers on the board now and callers if you'd like to call in, we're opening
[05:12.600 --> 05:21.600]  up the phone lines now, 512-646-1984, and you can call in about whatever is on your
[05:21.600 --> 05:25.600]  mind, we are going to go right now to Dan in Connecticut, he's been holding for quite
[05:25.600 --> 05:29.600]  a while, hey Dan, thanks for patiently waiting, I'm sorry we couldn't bring you up while
[05:29.600 --> 05:33.600]  Dr. Albrecht was on, but she just had too much information to get out, so we had to
[05:33.600 --> 05:38.600]  give her the floor the whole time, but what's on your mind tonight?
[05:38.600 --> 05:44.600]  Oh, that's cool, it's Dan from the Evil Radio Network, I actually did a show on RFID, believe
[05:44.600 --> 05:53.600]  it or not, and I did want to remind you guys that we in Connecticut, specifically myself
[05:53.600 --> 05:59.600]  and Libertarian Party, we did have a lot of victories concerning RFID going on right here
[05:59.600 --> 06:06.600]  locally, we had a bill that was actually fielded to prevent Connecticut from complying with
[06:06.600 --> 06:12.600]  the act, and I know your guest mentioned that you can't fall within the traps, you know,
[06:12.600 --> 06:15.600]  they're going to put out the version that they're going to go, oh well this is really
[06:15.600 --> 06:20.600]  insecure, this, that, and the other thing, but what I pointed out in the information
[06:20.600 --> 06:28.600]  that I gave to the legislature is that you've still got a high value identity theft target,
[06:28.600 --> 06:34.600]  and I actually did walk those people through how not only could you steal it through conventional
[06:34.600 --> 06:39.600]  means, but how that would still prevent a vulnerability through, you know, the means
[06:39.600 --> 06:45.600]  of let's just say you happen to be the guy that was recording the information or had
[06:45.600 --> 06:51.600]  access to the equipment.
[06:51.600 --> 06:54.600]  Right.
[06:54.600 --> 06:55.600]  Randy, you there?
[06:55.600 --> 06:57.600]  Yeah, I'm here.
[06:57.600 --> 06:58.600]  This is not my subject.
[06:58.600 --> 07:05.600]  While Catherine Albrock was on, I tried to find, sound extremely intelligent.
[07:05.600 --> 07:08.600]  You know, as I kept my mouth shut.
[07:08.600 --> 07:13.600]  I did notice that, and I was hoping you'd pipe in because you are an electronics engineer.
[07:13.600 --> 07:20.600]  Well, the only thing that I wanted to pipe in about was about how to disable it elegantly,
[07:20.600 --> 07:28.600]  and yes I am an electrical engineer, and I know how to disable it very elegantly.
[07:28.600 --> 07:29.600]  How?
[07:29.600 --> 07:31.600]  With a hammer.
[07:31.600 --> 07:32.600]  That's what she was saying.
[07:32.600 --> 07:37.600]  And that's something I was going to say, and I was hoping she didn't say that.
[07:37.600 --> 07:42.600]  That way I would have something else to say when I got on, but now I don't.
[07:42.600 --> 07:45.600]  We're out of Catherine's league.
[07:45.600 --> 07:53.600]  Actually, I was thinking, you know, the thing about IC chips, a chip in the 70s,
[07:53.600 --> 07:57.600]  I worked for Teletype, and we were doing primary research and development on metal
[07:57.600 --> 07:59.600]  and silicon technology.
[07:59.600 --> 08:02.600]  We were trying to develop the first PC.
[08:02.600 --> 08:06.600]  You ever heard of Teletype PCs?
[08:06.600 --> 08:07.600]  Yes.
[08:07.600 --> 08:10.600]  You know what happened to us.
[08:10.600 --> 08:12.600]  We had a Teletype, but we never got the PC out.
[08:12.600 --> 08:16.600]  But the thing about them is once it's set up and working,
[08:16.600 --> 08:20.600]  it should theoretically last 30,000 years.
[08:20.600 --> 08:25.600]  Well, I was going to ask, Randy, how are these things powered?
[08:25.600 --> 08:28.600]  I mean, they transmit radio frequencies.
[08:28.600 --> 08:32.600]  They have to be powered some kind of way with some kind of tiny battery or something.
[08:32.600 --> 08:33.600]  Heat can do it.
[08:33.600 --> 08:34.600]  Light can do it.
[08:34.600 --> 08:35.600]  Oh, okay.
[08:35.600 --> 08:36.600]  The signal can do it.
[08:36.600 --> 08:38.600]  The signal from the transmitter can do it.
[08:38.600 --> 08:39.600]  Oh, okay.
[08:39.600 --> 08:42.600]  It's such low power.
[08:42.600 --> 08:49.600]  But the key to it is while a chip would theoretically last 30,000 years,
[08:49.600 --> 08:55.600]  unlike a tube, it won't take a spike, not even a little bitty spike.
[08:55.600 --> 09:00.600]  So you don't need a microwave to fry one.
[09:00.600 --> 09:02.600]  More hammer.
[09:02.600 --> 09:03.600]  More hammer.
[09:03.600 --> 09:05.600]  You can fry them a lot more elegantly.
[09:05.600 --> 09:06.600]  Stick them next to a spark plug.
[09:06.600 --> 09:08.600]  That ought to get it.
[09:08.600 --> 09:10.600]  Or just, you know, pull a spark plug.
[09:10.600 --> 09:12.600]  Set the card next to it.
[09:12.600 --> 09:14.600]  Pull this plug and let it arc.
[09:14.600 --> 09:18.600]  It'll throw out enough garbage it should fry that thing right in the case.
[09:18.600 --> 09:28.600]  Back when everybody had CBs, you could, if you had a 100-watt linear on your CB
[09:28.600 --> 09:33.600]  and a whip antenna, if you tied a string on the antenna
[09:33.600 --> 09:36.600]  and pulled it down and pointed it at the card next to you
[09:36.600 --> 09:41.600]  and keyed the mic, you would fry their radio right in the case.
[09:41.600 --> 09:44.600]  Now, they wouldn't feel it.
[09:44.600 --> 09:46.600]  It's only 100 watts.
[09:46.600 --> 09:48.600]  A light bulb puts out that much.
[09:48.600 --> 09:56.600]  But it's enough to pass through the Faraday screen casing around the radio,
[09:56.600 --> 10:00.600]  transmit enough power into the chip to fry the chip where it's sitting.
[10:00.600 --> 10:03.600]  So it shouldn't take much to fry that chip.
[10:03.600 --> 10:07.600]  And you can't protect that.
[10:07.600 --> 10:12.600]  Even if they put a Faraday screen around it, it's a metal screen.
[10:12.600 --> 10:19.600]  So the electromagnetic wave hits the screen and the screen conducts it around the object.
[10:19.600 --> 10:25.600]  The problem is, with power, the screen itself will radiate a field.
[10:25.600 --> 10:32.600]  And if you radiate a field and it crosses that, the conductor's inside the chip,
[10:32.600 --> 10:35.600]  when an electromagnetic field passes a conductor,
[10:35.600 --> 10:40.600]  it will induce a current in the direction of rotation.
[10:40.600 --> 10:44.600]  It will induce a current in that chip, zip, it's gone.
[10:44.600 --> 10:46.600]  So it doesn't take much.
[10:46.600 --> 10:52.600]  I don't know how they can keep them working with as much energy as we pass through every day.
[10:52.600 --> 11:00.600]  One car driving by with a spark plug wire hanging loose should fry everything in the neighborhood.
[11:00.600 --> 11:02.600]  So it shouldn't be hard to fry these chips.
[11:02.600 --> 11:06.600]  And besides, if you just wrap them in tinfoil.
[11:06.600 --> 11:08.600]  Yeah, I was going to say that.
[11:08.600 --> 11:15.600]  Well, you're talking about the passport thing just to protect yourself from other people reading it.
[11:15.600 --> 11:20.600]  But I mean, how are you – you can't wrap your whole life in tinfoil.
[11:20.600 --> 11:22.600]  What if it's on your shoes?
[11:22.600 --> 11:26.600]  What if it's a tube of toothpaste?
[11:26.600 --> 11:33.600]  I mean, she's talking they can track everything you do inside your house.
[11:33.600 --> 11:38.600]  You can't wrap your whole life in everything you own in tinfoil.
[11:38.600 --> 11:40.600]  We have to stop this in other ways.
[11:40.600 --> 11:45.600]  I need to develop an RFP chip zapper.
[11:45.600 --> 11:47.600]  I've seen some already.
[11:47.600 --> 11:53.600]  Did you see that video on YouTube that was basically like a microwave gun?
[11:53.600 --> 11:56.600]  No, I didn't see that.
[11:56.600 --> 12:00.600]  See, my concern about this is that it would create burn marks.
[12:00.600 --> 12:04.600]  But if you're talking about a tube of toothpaste, that wouldn't be an issue.
[12:04.600 --> 12:13.600]  Well, see, the thing is, okay, it's good to try to destroy these things if they happen to be on things around us.
[12:13.600 --> 12:21.600]  But the thing is we have to stop it at a higher level because most people are not aware of this and they don't care.
[12:21.600 --> 12:25.600]  Okay, we have to stop these companies from doing it in the first place.
[12:25.600 --> 12:27.600]  And it sounds like Katherine just about has.
[12:27.600 --> 12:32.600]  She has singlehandedly put the Verichip company just about out of business.
[12:32.600 --> 12:43.600]  And she has, from the consumer side, as far as consumer products, she has basically with her crusade for the last seven years,
[12:43.600 --> 12:50.600]  they were going to replace the barcode with RFID in, what did she say, 2002.
[12:50.600 --> 12:53.600]  Okay, and they still haven't done it yet is because of her.
[12:53.600 --> 13:04.600]  And what she's saying now is we need, she needs help people to fight this thing on the government side to get them to stop putting the chips in the,
[13:04.600 --> 13:10.600]  you know, all these things that the government would do like the passports and driver's licenses and whatever else.
[13:10.600 --> 13:21.600]  So, I mean, we really have to put a stop to them doing it at all and not just come up with, you know, unique and creative ways to try to destroy these things
[13:21.600 --> 13:23.600]  because only a few people are going to do that.
[13:23.600 --> 13:27.600]  Everybody's not going to do that.
[13:27.600 --> 13:31.600]  People, for the most part, they don't know, they don't care.
[13:31.600 --> 13:33.600]  Even if they knew, they wouldn't care.
[13:33.600 --> 13:37.600]  I saw an interview one time of this guy.
[13:37.600 --> 13:39.600]  This was on, this is actually on mainstream media.
[13:39.600 --> 13:45.600]  This is just to let people know about the apathy that's out there, okay.
[13:45.600 --> 13:56.600]  It's had to do with these backscatter machines, okay, at airports that they've got them all over Europe now and they are starting to test them in the U.S.
[13:56.600 --> 14:08.600]  And for people who don't know what that is, what it is, it's low-level x-rays that can penetrate through your clothing and they can see your naked body under your clothes, okay.
[14:08.600 --> 14:11.600]  Everything, and it's very detailed, all right.
[14:11.600 --> 14:14.600]  And they want to put these in all the airports now.
[14:14.600 --> 14:17.600]  And I'll tell you what, I ain't going for it.
[14:17.600 --> 14:24.600]  No way, no how, I ain't going to have some stranger looking at me naked walking through that thing.
[14:24.600 --> 14:27.600]  I'm sorry, it's just not going to happen, all right.
[14:27.600 --> 14:32.600]  And they're saying, well, the alternative is, see, right now they're doing it as a test, like on a volunteer basis,
[14:32.600 --> 14:42.600]  or if they suspect you of having contraband or something, I mean, or a weapon or whatever, it's like, okay, I guess the metal detector isn't good enough anymore.
[14:42.600 --> 14:49.600]  They give you the option of, well, you could go through the backscatter machine or you could get patted down, okay.
[14:49.600 --> 14:55.600]  Well, whatever, I guess so you can either get groped or they can look at you naked, take your pick, all right.
[14:55.600 --> 14:58.600]  And so they're not forcing that in the U.S. yet.
[14:58.600 --> 15:02.600]  They're not able to yet. I'm sure it will happen soon.
[15:02.600 --> 15:04.600]  But they're testing the public on it.
[15:04.600 --> 15:06.600]  They do, it's pretty much mandatory in Europe now.
[15:06.600 --> 15:11.600]  That's one reason why I haven't traveled to Europe, because those are other countries, other governments.
[15:11.600 --> 15:12.600]  There's nothing you can do about it.
[15:12.600 --> 15:17.600]  But at any rate, they were interviewing people and how they felt about it.
[15:17.600 --> 15:25.600]  And this one guy, you know, was saying, you know, middle-aged guy, you know, old, fat, bald, whatever.
[15:25.600 --> 15:29.600]  And he's like, well, I don't care. I don't care to see me in my underwear.
[15:29.600 --> 15:32.600]  I don't care to see me naked as long as it keeps me safe.
[15:32.600 --> 15:34.600]  Yeah, well, he doesn't care.
[15:34.600 --> 15:38.600]  But every female, every woman that was interviewed said no way.
[15:38.600 --> 15:42.600]  And so it's like, okay, and some men objected to it as well.
[15:42.600 --> 15:46.600]  So, okay, it's like, all right, whatever.
[15:46.600 --> 15:53.600]  But the point is there was just such this level of apathy that people were like, I don't care, you know,
[15:53.600 --> 15:58.600]  unless they felt that they had something to lose, like a pretty girl, you know,
[15:58.600 --> 16:06.600]  but if they felt like it was no big deal, like they didn't care, you know, the man or whatever.
[16:06.600 --> 16:09.600]  So it's like we're fighting this apathy here.
[16:09.600 --> 16:17.600]  And that's why I'm saying we have to stop this at a higher level, just like with the backscatter machines, you know,
[16:17.600 --> 16:22.600]  just objecting to it yourself by yourself at the airport is not enough.
[16:22.600 --> 16:24.600]  That's not going to stop it.
[16:24.600 --> 16:26.600]  We found a way to do it in Connecticut, Deborah.
[16:26.600 --> 16:27.600]  What did you do?
[16:27.600 --> 16:33.600]  We pointed out that it would cost the state of Connecticut a lot of money.
[16:33.600 --> 16:34.600]  Yeah.
[16:34.600 --> 16:36.600]  If they actually implemented this.
[16:36.600 --> 16:38.600]  And that's when they took pause.
[16:38.600 --> 16:40.600]  We hit them in the pocketbook.
[16:40.600 --> 16:41.600]  Yep.
[16:41.600 --> 16:44.600]  And that's the same thing with the Real ID Act as well.
[16:44.600 --> 16:54.600]  That's why, well, that's one of the main reasons or at least one of the excuses, I would say plausible deniability is what it really is,
[16:54.600 --> 17:00.600]  that a lot of states are saying, no, we're not going to implement the Real ID Act because we have to pay.
[17:00.600 --> 17:09.600]  It's another unfunded federal mandate and especially in states that have, you know, Republican-dominated Congress
[17:09.600 --> 17:11.600]  that they don't want to spend any money on anything.
[17:11.600 --> 17:19.600]  Even Democrat, in Connecticut, the Department of Revenue Services lost a lot of data just like the VA did,
[17:19.600 --> 17:22.600]  just like the Social Security Administration did.
[17:22.600 --> 17:25.600]  And we said, hey, you remember all that money you had to pay out?
[17:25.600 --> 17:27.600]  You wanted to do it again?
[17:27.600 --> 17:34.600]  And they took a step back and they went, well, wait a minute, we don't like paying out a lot of money.
[17:34.600 --> 17:42.600]  That got me on the phone with the legislative aid for about an hour discussing this.
[17:42.600 --> 17:50.600]  And I was even able to give him case law citing, you know, different types of things that have come down the pike,
[17:50.600 --> 17:55.600]  you know, to the effect of, well, you're a state agent, you have to do all this stuff for the federal government.
[17:55.600 --> 17:58.600]  I cited the MAC versus the U.S. case.
[17:58.600 --> 18:01.600]  And what is that?
[18:01.600 --> 18:06.600]  That's basically where Sheriff MAC, he was the sheriff down in Texas.
[18:06.600 --> 18:08.600]  That had to do with the Brady Law.
[18:08.600 --> 18:10.600]  Yeah, we had him on the show.
[18:10.600 --> 18:13.600]  That was merged with, I believe, Prince versus U.S.
[18:13.600 --> 18:18.600]  Yeah, it cited as Prince versus U.S.
[18:18.600 --> 18:20.600]  Yes.
[18:20.600 --> 18:27.600]  But essentially what they wanted to do is they wanted the agencies do things for the federal government for free.
[18:27.600 --> 18:31.600]  Right.
[18:31.600 --> 18:33.600]  And it said that they had to pay us.
[18:33.600 --> 18:45.600]  This was someone called in about that case and referenced it yesterday when I was talking about the Secretary of State
[18:45.600 --> 18:51.600]  not approving APA steals for anything having to do with legal reform.
[18:51.600 --> 19:00.600]  And I was maintaining that they didn't have the right to decide who they would provide an APA steal for and who they wouldn't.
[19:00.600 --> 19:06.600]  And that's what this case referenced.
[19:06.600 --> 19:08.600]  So I've got to reread it.
[19:08.600 --> 19:09.600]  I haven't read it yet in a while.
[19:09.600 --> 19:11.600]  Well, that's great news, Dan.
[19:11.600 --> 19:14.600]  I'm glad that you all were able to put a stop to it.
[19:14.600 --> 19:18.600]  Yeah, I mean, the bill is still in committee.
[19:18.600 --> 19:21.600]  I'm pretty sure it's going to pass.
[19:21.600 --> 19:25.600]  I know the libertarians are pretty focused on the raw milk ban that was coming through,
[19:25.600 --> 19:33.600]  but considering the heavy hitters we had there testifying for it, we all pretty much looked at it like I had the chance to email
[19:33.600 --> 19:41.600]  what I had to say over to the point where we just buried this so much that, you know, it looks like it's going to go through.
[19:41.600 --> 19:43.600]  That's excellent.
[19:43.600 --> 19:49.600]  Unfortunately, we have another series of bills coming through for ammunition coding,
[19:49.600 --> 19:53.600]  which I will have to again go to the Capitol for.
[19:53.600 --> 20:00.600]  And we have another bill coming through concerning making rifles subject to a pistol permit type of thing.
[20:00.600 --> 20:01.600]  Oh, my goodness.
[20:01.600 --> 20:10.600]  Yeah, so I'm going to have to go there and again say that my wife is live today due to a lawful use of a gun for the third time.
[20:10.600 --> 20:12.600]  But I don't have a problem with that.
[20:12.600 --> 20:14.600]  I mean, that's just my job.
[20:14.600 --> 20:16.600]  Right.
[20:16.600 --> 20:17.600]  All right.
[20:17.600 --> 20:19.600]  Well, do you have anything else for us, Dan?
[20:19.600 --> 20:20.600]  Not much.
[20:20.600 --> 20:22.600]  I just want to register through with that.
[20:22.600 --> 20:29.600]  And Catherine did cover the points, some of the points that I wanted to make, like the hammer.
[20:29.600 --> 20:30.600]  Yeah.
[20:30.600 --> 20:32.600]  That was actually in Wired magazine as well.
[20:32.600 --> 20:34.600]  So a lot of people already know about this stuff.
[20:34.600 --> 20:35.600]  That's great.
[20:35.600 --> 20:36.600]  Which is very good news.
[20:36.600 --> 20:39.600]  That's a really elegant solution from my perspective.
[20:39.600 --> 20:43.600]  As an electrical engineer, just knock the crap out of it.
[20:43.600 --> 20:50.600]  Well, see, the thing is how are you going to hammer on a tube of toothpaste or a shampoo bottle?
[20:50.600 --> 20:51.600]  Okay.
[20:51.600 --> 20:53.600]  It's just that sort of thing is impractical sometimes.
[20:53.600 --> 20:57.600]  I mean, it's impractical to put those things in the microwave too, you know.
[20:57.600 --> 21:00.600]  So but when you can, yeah, the hammer.
[21:00.600 --> 21:02.600]  And just opt out.
[21:02.600 --> 21:03.600]  I would say boycott it.
[21:03.600 --> 21:04.600]  Opt out.
[21:04.600 --> 21:08.600]  Don't use the RFID toll tax.
[21:08.600 --> 21:10.600]  Go to the toll booth and pay cash.
[21:10.600 --> 21:11.600]  Okay.
[21:11.600 --> 21:13.600]  It won't take very long.
[21:13.600 --> 21:20.600]  You know, it's like people get lulled into this convenience and then, oh, it's so convenient, you know.
[21:20.600 --> 21:24.600]  But they don't realize what they're giving up for that convenience, you know.
[21:24.600 --> 21:25.600]  I've got pennies.
[21:25.600 --> 21:29.600]  I mean, I'm more than, you know, happy to pay with pennies when I go through those.
[21:29.600 --> 21:30.600]  Right.
[21:30.600 --> 21:31.600]  Absolutely.
[21:31.600 --> 21:32.600]  I feel like I made the point.
[21:32.600 --> 21:36.600]  Oh, my goodness.
[21:36.600 --> 21:39.600]  You can really hear those counters winding up in there.
[21:39.600 --> 21:40.600]  Oh, boy.
[21:40.600 --> 21:41.600]  Yeah.
[21:41.600 --> 21:42.600]  Yeah.
[21:42.600 --> 21:47.600]  I actually had a friend of mine whose father paid his speeding ticket with pennies.
[21:47.600 --> 21:50.600]  And it cost more to send the pennies, but, you know, they got rid of it.
[21:50.600 --> 21:51.600]  You know what?
[21:51.600 --> 21:54.600]  What was the comedian's name?
[21:54.600 --> 22:03.600]  Johnny Carson, he tried to pay his ex-wife some alimony settlements in pennies.
[22:03.600 --> 22:08.600]  And it was something like $2 million or something.
[22:08.600 --> 22:10.600]  And so he got – I'm serious.
[22:10.600 --> 22:12.600]  It's like 18-wheelers full of pennies.
[22:12.600 --> 22:13.600]  And you know what?
[22:13.600 --> 22:21.600]  I can't remember what the cutoff is, but at least at the time there was legislation on the books that after a certain amount,
[22:21.600 --> 22:24.600]  pennies aren't considered legal tender anymore.
[22:24.600 --> 22:26.600]  And he didn't know that.
[22:26.600 --> 22:31.600]  And so all these 18-wheelers show up with all the pennies on her doorstep and start dumping them off.
[22:31.600 --> 22:34.600]  And she's like, I don't have to take this.
[22:34.600 --> 22:36.600]  And so he had to take all the pennies back.
[22:36.600 --> 22:38.600]  Oh, my God.
[22:38.600 --> 22:40.600]  Yeah, but yeah, give pennies when you can.
[22:40.600 --> 22:44.600]  I can't remember what the cutoff limit is, but it's, you know, $3,000 or something.
[22:44.600 --> 22:49.600]  Hey, you know, if they're saying it's legal tender, I would insist.
[22:49.600 --> 22:52.600]  No, the law was that it's not legal tender.
[22:52.600 --> 22:56.600]  But yeah, if it is – if it's under the limit to be legal tender, then yeah.
[22:56.600 --> 22:58.600]  But I think it was like $50,000 or something.
[22:58.600 --> 22:59.600]  I can't remember what it was.
[22:59.600 --> 23:04.600]  But it's something like after $50,000 or some – it's in the tens of thousands.
[23:04.600 --> 23:08.600]  It's not considered legal tender anymore, you know.
[23:08.600 --> 23:10.600]  But kind of strange.
[23:10.600 --> 23:12.600]  I don't quite know why.
[23:12.600 --> 23:20.600]  Actually, the penny is probably the most – is worth – ironically, it's worth more than a $100 bill, really,
[23:20.600 --> 23:23.600]  as far as, you know, content and what it is.
[23:23.600 --> 23:27.600]  Except I think they're even cutting down on the amount of copper that they put in it now
[23:27.600 --> 23:31.600]  because it actually costs like 1.5 cents to make a penny.
[23:31.600 --> 23:33.600]  The copper is worth more than –
[23:33.600 --> 23:39.600]  Yeah, the content of the copper in the penny is worth more than the face value of the penny.
[23:39.600 --> 23:41.600]  And so they're trying to kill the penny now.
[23:41.600 --> 23:42.600]  But they're –
[23:42.600 --> 23:51.600]  You know, that's even considering if, like, let's just hypothetically say you want to shave off the side of each zinc penny
[23:51.600 --> 24:02.600]  and, like, expose the zinc and have, like, the copper exterior and dump, like, a whole bunch of nitric acid into it
[24:02.600 --> 24:07.600]  and dissolve all the zinc and still have, like, the copper left over, it would still be worth more.
[24:07.600 --> 24:08.600]  Yeah.
[24:08.600 --> 24:09.600]  Yeah.
[24:09.600 --> 24:11.600]  But they can't – they're trying to kill the penny.
[24:11.600 --> 24:21.600]  But basically nonprofit agency – nonprofit organizations have put a stop to the legislature trying to kill the penny
[24:21.600 --> 24:32.600]  because they're saying that, you know, they'll put jars at cash registers, like in restaurants or stores and stuff.
[24:32.600 --> 24:37.600]  And so that they get most of their donations is from pocket change.
[24:37.600 --> 24:41.600]  And pennies seem to be most of their donations.
[24:41.600 --> 24:46.600]  And so the nonprofit organizations are lobbying Congress saying, no, you can't kill the penny
[24:46.600 --> 24:49.600]  because you're going to kill all the nonprofit organizations.
[24:49.600 --> 24:51.600]  So they've managed to put a stop to it.
[24:51.600 --> 24:53.600]  But it's just ridiculous, really.
[24:53.600 --> 24:57.600]  At any rate, did you have anything else, Dan, or –
[24:57.600 --> 24:59.600]  No, that was it.
[24:59.600 --> 25:06.600]  I just wanted to say you had an excellent guest and I just wanted to add my two cents, deliver it.
[25:06.600 --> 25:07.600]  And I'll talk to you guys later.
[25:07.600 --> 25:08.600]  All right.
[25:08.600 --> 25:09.600]  Thank you.
[25:09.600 --> 25:10.600]  Thank you for calling in, Dan.
[25:10.600 --> 25:13.600]  And thank you for all of your good work as well.
[25:13.600 --> 25:14.600]  All right.
[25:14.600 --> 25:15.600]  We are –
[25:15.600 --> 25:16.600]  Talk to you later.
[25:16.600 --> 25:17.600]  Talk to you later.
[25:17.600 --> 25:18.600]  All right.
[25:18.600 --> 25:19.600]  We're going to move on now to George in Texas.
[25:19.600 --> 25:21.600]  George, thanks for calling in.
[25:21.600 --> 25:22.600]  What's on your mind tonight?
[25:22.600 --> 25:25.600]  You know, the thing is, thank you for having Kathleen Albright on.
[25:25.600 --> 25:31.600]  You know, the thing – you know, the government wants to know – wants our medical records.
[25:31.600 --> 25:36.600]  And you know, the thing is, those medical records are the property of me, not the government.
[25:36.600 --> 25:37.600]  That's right.
[25:37.600 --> 25:39.600]  I do not want my records put on the chip.
[25:39.600 --> 25:41.600]  I don't care how convenient it is.
[25:41.600 --> 25:42.600]  That's right.
[25:42.600 --> 25:44.600]  That's right.
[25:44.600 --> 25:47.600]  Well, I'd like to know, Randy, since he's an electrical engineer,
[25:47.600 --> 25:53.600]  what about having a little static electricity gun to just shoot static electricity to fry a chip?
[25:53.600 --> 25:56.600]  Oh, that would essentially do it.
[25:56.600 --> 26:04.600]  But static generally doesn't carry enough voltage – I'm sorry, enough wattage, enough power.
[26:04.600 --> 26:06.600]  It's real high voltage, but real low current.
[26:06.600 --> 26:09.600]  It's just a little tip.
[26:09.600 --> 26:16.600]  Unless you scoot across a dry rug, it would take something a little stronger than that to get past the Faraday screen.
[26:16.600 --> 26:22.600]  These things are going to have an antenna on them, and the rest of it encased in a Faraday screen.
[26:22.600 --> 26:28.600]  So it would take something to put out a pretty good signal, but it wouldn't take enough to be harmful.
[26:28.600 --> 26:36.600]  When I was in the military, they warned us about walking past the front of the aircraft
[26:36.600 --> 26:43.600]  if a crew chief was in the cockpit because he might be testing the radar,
[26:43.600 --> 26:49.600]  and it's strong enough to make you sterile, but you would never feel it.
[26:49.600 --> 26:56.600]  We had a guy that was putting flash bulbs in reconnaissance units
[26:56.600 --> 27:05.600]  and walked in front of an aircraft with the radar on, and he set the flash bulbs off in his pockets, but he couldn't feel it.
[27:05.600 --> 27:11.600]  Well, he felt flash bulbs, but he couldn't feel the power from the radar.
[27:11.600 --> 27:19.600]  So you can experience a pretty powerful RL frequency and not know it, not even feel it.
[27:19.600 --> 27:25.600]  But you know the really scary thing is everybody brags, oh, I got GPS, I got OnStar,
[27:25.600 --> 27:31.600]  and they can track your location from your cell phone and all that stuff,
[27:31.600 --> 27:36.600]  and it's really frightening how they can really get into people's privacy.
[27:36.600 --> 27:41.600]  And it's going to get worse. George Orwell didn't have a clue.
[27:41.600 --> 27:44.600]  It's a lot worse than he ever imagined.
[27:44.600 --> 27:48.600]  And you know, it's like telling these police, well, we need to know what you're doing at all times.
[27:48.600 --> 27:50.600]  I'm like, no, you don't.
[27:50.600 --> 27:57.600]  I said, if we're not doing anything wrong and we're minding our own business, it's none of your business.
[27:57.600 --> 28:03.600]  I mean, and it's just like they were supposed to have a digital television switchover.
[28:03.600 --> 28:06.600]  I wonder why they didn't have that switchover on the 17th.
[28:06.600 --> 28:11.600]  Why is it now June the 9th?
[28:11.600 --> 28:16.600]  Because they were saying not enough people had the equipment,
[28:16.600 --> 28:22.600]  and they were afraid too many people would lose their TV for too long.
[28:22.600 --> 28:25.600]  At least that's the crap story they told us.
[28:25.600 --> 28:30.600]  Well, here's the thing is, it's like the cable company Comcast down here,
[28:30.600 --> 28:34.600]  they lost a lot of accounts due to the economy.
[28:34.600 --> 28:43.600]  And also too, if you can't afford cable TV, even with the coupons, how in the world can you get a box?
[28:43.600 --> 28:51.600]  Well, the thing about TV is if it's what some people want, they will find a way to get it.
[28:51.600 --> 28:57.600]  Now, they may give up food and medicine, but they'll have their entertainment.
[28:57.600 --> 29:04.600]  In the last depression, entertainment did extremely well.
[29:04.600 --> 29:09.600]  Well, like I said, the government's just trying to relentlessly go in our privacy.
[29:09.600 --> 29:14.600]  It's like now, even though I archive show and I podcast them, you know,
[29:14.600 --> 29:19.600]  I disconnect my DSL modem from my computer when I go to bed.
[29:19.600 --> 29:28.600]  I do listen to the archives, and I don't need a screen for that anymore.
[29:28.600 --> 29:30.600]  What's that church in here you're talking about?
[29:30.600 --> 29:31.600]  I got X quick.
[29:31.600 --> 29:36.600]  X quick, I, X, and then quick.
[29:36.600 --> 29:40.600]  All right, listen, we're going to break.
[29:40.600 --> 29:41.600]  All right, we'll be right back.
[29:41.600 --> 29:43.600]  George, you can hang on to the other side if you have anything,
[29:43.600 --> 29:45.600]  if you have any other comments or questions.
[29:45.600 --> 29:46.600]  We'll be right back.
[29:46.600 --> 29:57.600]  This has been Rule of Law, Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens on Rule of Law Radio.
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[30:57.600 --> 31:05.600]  Hello? Yes, George. How good of you to call.
[31:05.600 --> 31:10.600]  Yeah, we had dinner with the Cheneys last week.
[31:10.600 --> 31:16.600]  We had a great time sitting around talking about politics.
[31:16.600 --> 31:21.600]  I saw when Mr. Cheney was paying for the tab,
[31:21.600 --> 31:26.600]  I saw a big red stain on his wall.
[31:26.600 --> 31:28.600]  I was thinking to myself,
[31:28.600 --> 31:40.600]  heavens, you know, the war must be going splendid.
[31:40.600 --> 32:02.600]  Red money.
[32:02.600 --> 32:07.600]  Got some three-shoes posse for y'all.
[32:07.600 --> 32:09.600]  Speaking of pennies.
[32:09.600 --> 32:13.600]  We are speaking with George in Texas.
[32:13.600 --> 32:16.600]  And George, yeah, I understand your concerns.
[32:16.600 --> 32:18.600]  I feel the same way about the government
[32:18.600 --> 32:20.600]  invading our privacy and such.
[32:20.600 --> 32:24.600]  And basically that's the call for help that Catherine Albrecht
[32:24.600 --> 32:26.600]  was making on our show tonight.
[32:26.600 --> 32:32.600]  She is, you know, her crusade was in the consumer realm,
[32:32.600 --> 32:37.600]  and she needs help for people to combat this madness
[32:37.600 --> 32:41.600]  as far as government implementation of it,
[32:41.600 --> 32:44.600]  spying on our privacy and such.
[32:44.600 --> 32:47.600]  So, you know, you could be the next Catherine Albrecht.
[32:47.600 --> 32:49.600]  George, why don't you go for it?
[32:49.600 --> 32:52.600]  You know, something I like to tackle,
[32:52.600 --> 32:54.600]  I don't know where to begin to start sometimes.
[32:54.600 --> 32:56.600]  I got to pick my own battle and fight it.
[32:56.600 --> 32:57.600]  Yep, that's true.
[32:57.600 --> 33:00.600]  I can't pick too many battles because I'll hurt myself then.
[33:00.600 --> 33:02.600]  I agree. I agree.
[33:02.600 --> 33:07.600]  That's why I can't do it because I'm running a radio network now.
[33:07.600 --> 33:10.600]  Well, but anyway, coming back on when you,
[33:10.600 --> 33:12.600]  I know we were cut short yesterday.
[33:12.600 --> 33:15.600]  We were going, like, with the county judge
[33:15.600 --> 33:18.600]  overseeing certain parts of, like, disaster relief
[33:18.600 --> 33:24.600]  or local emergency, like if an F5 went through Austin
[33:24.600 --> 33:27.600]  and there was damage and the county judge oversees the emergency,
[33:27.600 --> 33:30.600]  certain aspects of the emergency operations.
[33:30.600 --> 33:32.600]  You're familiar with that, Randy, aren't you?
[33:32.600 --> 33:36.600]  No, it sounds reasonable and I would expect that would be the case,
[33:36.600 --> 33:42.600]  but no, I'm not personally familiar with the regulations and such.
[33:42.600 --> 33:45.600]  Well, but, you know, they're talking about, like, FEMA camps
[33:45.600 --> 33:48.600]  going up around the country, you know, even though they've been there
[33:48.600 --> 33:53.600]  and there's a bill being introduced in Congress
[33:53.600 --> 33:57.600]  and Alex Jones had on the other evil rival network
[33:57.600 --> 34:03.600]  had a journalist interview somebody with emergency management with FEMA,
[34:03.600 --> 34:07.600]  talk about where could he put mass graves and all that stuff.
[34:07.600 --> 34:11.600]  Would the county judge have any input into that?
[34:11.600 --> 34:14.600]  I have no idea.
[34:14.600 --> 34:20.600]  These are things that, you know, that's outside what I do.
[34:20.600 --> 34:24.600]  Yeah, and George, there's a lot of background noise on your end.
[34:24.600 --> 34:26.600]  No, I just want my wife to be quiet.
[34:26.600 --> 34:28.600]  Maybe you could close the door.
[34:28.600 --> 34:29.600]  Wait, wait a minute, George.
[34:29.600 --> 34:30.600]  Get over here.
[34:30.600 --> 34:31.600]  I'll talk to her.
[34:31.600 --> 34:32.600]  I'll help you.
[34:32.600 --> 34:33.600]  I'll take care of that.
[34:33.600 --> 34:36.600]  Oh, you'll put me on the couch.
[34:36.600 --> 34:38.600]  What?
[34:38.600 --> 34:42.600]  My favorite pastime is let you and him fight.
[34:42.600 --> 34:45.600]  Yeah, yeah.
[34:45.600 --> 34:49.600]  But anyway, well, I'm going outside.
[34:49.600 --> 34:52.600]  But I'm just saying because down here they had the county judge
[34:52.600 --> 34:56.600]  praised for overseeing emergency operations with Ike.
[34:56.600 --> 35:01.600]  And, you know, if he can oversee a hurricane operation with Ike,
[35:01.600 --> 35:05.600]  he would know something about FEMA camps.
[35:05.600 --> 35:07.600]  It would seem that way.
[35:07.600 --> 35:12.600]  And would the county judge be obligated to answer the public question
[35:12.600 --> 35:15.600]  if a sovereign American like me would ask,
[35:15.600 --> 35:20.600]  what do you know about these FEMA operations and what their input is?
[35:20.600 --> 35:26.600]  Well, if you gave him an information request, you know,
[35:26.600 --> 35:29.600]  you can't force him to tell you what's in his mind,
[35:29.600 --> 35:32.600]  but anything that's on paper you can get.
[35:32.600 --> 35:34.600]  That's right.
[35:34.600 --> 35:40.600]  Well, if anybody knows about Texas, about this area, please call in
[35:40.600 --> 35:43.600]  about what the county judge.
[35:43.600 --> 35:47.600]  But anyway, I'm going to let you go bring up more callers, okay?
[35:47.600 --> 35:49.600]  All right, thank you for calling in, George.
[35:49.600 --> 35:51.600]  All right, thank you. Bye.
[35:51.600 --> 35:55.600]  All right, callers, we like to call in 512-646-1984.
[35:55.600 --> 35:59.600]  We are going to go now to Rick from California.
[35:59.600 --> 36:00.600]  Hey, Rick, thanks for calling in.
[36:00.600 --> 36:03.600]  What's on your mind tonight?
[36:03.600 --> 36:05.600]  Rick?
[36:05.600 --> 36:07.600]  Okay, he's not there.
[36:07.600 --> 36:09.600]  All right, Rick, if you're there, call back in.
[36:09.600 --> 36:10.600]  Or if you're listening, call back in.
[36:10.600 --> 36:14.600]  All right, we got Chuck from California.
[36:14.600 --> 36:15.600]  All right, Chuck, you there?
[36:15.600 --> 36:17.600]  What's on your mind tonight?
[36:17.600 --> 36:21.600]  Yeah, I wanted to continue our conversation from last night
[36:21.600 --> 36:26.600]  about my federal complaint about federal judges.
[36:26.600 --> 36:32.600]  Yeah, I've been working on this for a while,
[36:32.600 --> 36:37.600]  and Tony Davis has been working on federal judges.
[36:37.600 --> 36:42.600]  We have a CD of a federal judges conference
[36:42.600 --> 36:48.600]  where an appeals court judge comes to the conference,
[36:48.600 --> 36:53.600]  and essentially it's a conference about how to screw procès.
[36:53.600 --> 36:56.600]  When procès come before the court, how to handle them and deal with them,
[36:56.600 --> 37:04.600]  and the appeals court judge told the others that if you rule against procès,
[37:04.600 --> 37:07.600]  we'll support your rulings.
[37:07.600 --> 37:15.600]  We also have a clerk for one of the judges in the Fifth Circuit committed suicide.
[37:15.600 --> 37:19.600]  It took the police some six hours to get the suicide note back from the judge
[37:19.600 --> 37:26.600]  who got it because what he said was one of the main reasons he committed suicide
[37:26.600 --> 37:32.600]  was he was remorseful because in the 20 years he had been a clerk,
[37:32.600 --> 37:37.600]  the federal judges never once read a procès pleading.
[37:37.600 --> 37:41.600]  They ruled against them out of hand.
[37:41.600 --> 37:43.600]  Well, that sounds like what they did to me.
[37:43.600 --> 37:52.600]  Well, that's criminal, and he's putting in motions demanding that the judge read all of the pleadings.
[37:52.600 --> 38:00.600]  He put in one motion in the middle of a paragraph that the judge should disqualify himself
[38:00.600 --> 38:07.600]  because he's having a torrid affair with a 26-year-old blonde hooker.
[38:07.600 --> 38:12.600]  The judge came into court and never said a word about that.
[38:12.600 --> 38:14.600]  That means he didn't read it.
[38:14.600 --> 38:19.600]  That's one of Tony Davis' techniques to find out if they're actually even reading these pleadings.
[38:19.600 --> 38:23.600]  They'll just make up something outrageous and put it in there,
[38:23.600 --> 38:27.600]  just total fabrication of things like that, stories like that,
[38:27.600 --> 38:31.600]  just to see, you know, if they're going to react to it, find out if they're even reading it.
[38:31.600 --> 38:33.600]  And then, you know, he's filing the dispute.
[38:33.600 --> 38:40.600]  We're going after the judges themselves, and we're looking at, you know,
[38:40.600 --> 38:46.600]  if you cross a yellow line on the highway, they'll write you a ticket.
[38:46.600 --> 38:51.600]  If you're pulling out of a parking lot and your wheels hit the public thoroughfare
[38:51.600 --> 38:55.600]  before you get your seatbelt clicked, they'll write you a ticket.
[38:55.600 --> 39:00.600]  We should do the same thing to the judges.
[39:00.600 --> 39:04.600]  Well, that's what I'd like to do, and I was hoping you could help me do that.
[39:04.600 --> 39:06.600]  That's what I'm here to do.
[39:06.600 --> 39:17.600]  If a public official violates a law relating to their office
[39:17.600 --> 39:22.600]  or fails to perform a duty they're required to perform
[39:22.600 --> 39:26.600]  and in the process denies a citizen full free access to enjoy their right,
[39:26.600 --> 39:30.600]  that's a crime under 18 U.S. Code 242.
[39:30.600 --> 39:36.600]  Yeah, I got that one, 42, 1983, 1985, 1987.
[39:36.600 --> 39:41.600]  First time, set the judge up.
[39:41.600 --> 39:46.600]  Set him up with motions you know he won't read or he won't respond to.
[39:46.600 --> 39:51.600]  And when you file a motion, if you have more than one issue in the motion
[39:51.600 --> 39:55.600]  and the judge ignores one of the issues,
[39:55.600 --> 40:01.600]  charge him with misfeasance and thereby official oppression.
[40:01.600 --> 40:04.600]  Well, he's going to say, well, I didn't do anything wrong.
[40:04.600 --> 40:06.600]  Tell it to the grand jury.
[40:06.600 --> 40:09.600]  I'm sure they'll be understanding.
[40:09.600 --> 40:15.600]  You know, it really doesn't make any difference whether or not you can prove the allegation.
[40:15.600 --> 40:18.600]  You just have to make it.
[40:18.600 --> 40:23.600]  It will sting him badly.
[40:23.600 --> 40:27.600]  Right now we've got Obama in office after Bush.
[40:27.600 --> 40:30.600]  And Bush appointed a whole bunch of federal judges.
[40:30.600 --> 40:33.600]  That's how he pays them back.
[40:33.600 --> 40:36.600]  So Obama's got some debts to pay.
[40:36.600 --> 40:41.600]  And all these Republican judges know he has some debts to pay.
[40:41.600 --> 40:46.600]  So first thing you want to know is your judge a Democrat or a Republican?
[40:46.600 --> 40:50.600]  If he's a Republican, he's got a problem.
[40:50.600 --> 40:54.600]  You want to file a complaint against him every time he blows his nose
[40:54.600 --> 41:03.600]  and then notify the White House and notify your U.S., your congressman and your senator.
[41:03.600 --> 41:06.600]  And anybody else you can think of.
[41:06.600 --> 41:10.600]  Because the judge knows Obama's going to want to appoint his own people.
[41:10.600 --> 41:15.600]  Well, how's he going to do that unless he gets rid of some of the sitting judges?
[41:15.600 --> 41:18.600]  Everybody's worried right now.
[41:18.600 --> 41:21.600]  Now's the time to go for their throats.
[41:21.600 --> 41:29.600]  It's a good time to go down and set them up to do something wrong so that you can go after them.
[41:29.600 --> 41:32.600]  Well, in my case, they've already ruled against me.
[41:32.600 --> 41:35.600]  Then start filing against them.
[41:35.600 --> 41:38.600]  So do I do this with the grand jury?
[41:38.600 --> 41:43.600]  Well, they're saying that I would try to get to the grand jury,
[41:43.600 --> 41:46.600]  but they're going to do everything they can to block you.
[41:46.600 --> 41:50.600]  And I don't have a good issue to go federal just yet.
[41:50.600 --> 41:51.600]  I may.
[41:51.600 --> 41:56.600]  I just spent a night in jail, and that may give me a good federal issue.
[41:56.600 --> 41:58.600]  I just don't know if I want to do it federal or not.
[41:58.600 --> 42:05.600]  But what I want to do to the U.S. attorney is I want to send him a criminal complaint against a public official.
[42:05.600 --> 42:12.600]  And in the complaint, I'm going to use a cover letter and demand that he give the complaint to the grand jury.
[42:12.600 --> 42:16.600]  And he's going to refuse and just do it out of hand.
[42:16.600 --> 42:26.600]  That's what I want him to do because 18 U.S. Code 3332 says that if the U.S. attorney receives the complaint
[42:26.600 --> 42:30.600]  and there is a request to present it to the grand jury, he must present it to the grand jury.
[42:30.600 --> 42:39.600]  So I charge the U.S. attorney with misfeasance and official oppression, charge him under 18 U.S. Code 242.
[42:39.600 --> 42:41.600]  Now, who are you going to file that with?
[42:41.600 --> 42:43.600]  The U.S. attorney?
[42:43.600 --> 42:44.600]  He's the bad guy.
[42:44.600 --> 42:53.600]  So you go to the district judge and petition a district judge to appoint an attorney pro tem to prosecute the prosecutor.
[42:53.600 --> 43:02.600]  And present your complaints to the district judge in his capacity as a magistrate.
[43:02.600 --> 43:12.600]  And what he's going to tell you is, oh, we don't take complaints. You'll have to give that to the FBI.
[43:12.600 --> 43:22.600]  And then what you do is you file a criminal charge against the judge for violating a ministerial duty
[43:22.600 --> 43:28.600]  and denying you and your right to petition the court for redress of grievance.
[43:28.600 --> 43:35.600]  So when you put the criminal complaint in his hand, he stops becoming a judge and becomes a magistrate.
[43:35.600 --> 43:39.600]  And in that capacity, he has no authority to refuse to complain.
[43:39.600 --> 43:41.600]  All right. Listen, Chuck, you want to hang on the line?
[43:41.600 --> 43:42.600]  Sure.
[43:42.600 --> 43:44.600]  Okay. We're going to break right now.
[43:44.600 --> 43:47.600]  This is the rule of law, Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens.
[43:47.600 --> 43:52.600]  Callers, if you would like to call in, 512-646-1984.
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[45:34.600 --> 45:42.600]  All right.
[45:42.600 --> 45:43.600]  We are back.
[45:43.600 --> 45:48.600]  We are speaking with Chuck in California.
[45:48.600 --> 45:49.600]  Okay.
[45:49.600 --> 45:50.600]  Go ahead, Randy.
[45:50.600 --> 45:52.600]  You were talking about filing charges.
[45:52.600 --> 45:55.600]  It's about a way of thinking about them.
[45:55.600 --> 45:59.600]  You know, you go into court and you file your motions and you ask the judge to do something,
[45:59.600 --> 46:06.600]  and a lot of people in the legal reform community keep saying, well, that didn't work or this didn't work.
[46:06.600 --> 46:08.600]  And I say, wait a minute.
[46:08.600 --> 46:09.600]  Wait a minute.
[46:09.600 --> 46:10.600]  What are you doing here?
[46:10.600 --> 46:12.600]  Throwing dice?
[46:12.600 --> 46:14.600]  This is law.
[46:14.600 --> 46:17.600]  Everybody has a job.
[46:17.600 --> 46:19.600]  The judge has a job.
[46:19.600 --> 46:25.600]  It's not a matter of you appealing to the judge to get the judge to do what you want him to.
[46:25.600 --> 46:28.600]  You never ask the judge to do what you want him to.
[46:28.600 --> 46:30.600]  You ask him to do what the law commands him to do.
[46:30.600 --> 46:35.600]  Actually, you tell him to do what the law commands him to do.
[46:35.600 --> 46:39.600]  Well, what if he doesn't do what the law commands him to do?
[46:39.600 --> 46:42.600]  Well, your duty is really clear.
[46:42.600 --> 46:46.600]  You file criminal charges against him if what he's done denies you in a right.
[46:46.600 --> 46:48.600]  It's a crime.
[46:48.600 --> 46:55.600]  Just like you not having your seat belt buckled when your tires hit the thoroughfare.
[46:55.600 --> 47:03.600]  If he's crossed a legal line, it is a crime and you have no business letting him do it.
[47:03.600 --> 47:07.600]  It's your duty to hold his feet to the fire.
[47:07.600 --> 47:11.600]  It's his duty to rule on point of law.
[47:11.600 --> 47:16.600]  A trial judge has a ministerial duty.
[47:16.600 --> 47:22.600]  And by ministerial, that means something over which he has no discretion.
[47:22.600 --> 47:29.600]  For instance, if I file a motion to recuse or disqualify, since it's against the judge,
[47:29.600 --> 47:35.600]  it would be inappropriate for him to say, oh, gee whiz, I'm not biased.
[47:35.600 --> 47:37.600]  Well, duh.
[47:37.600 --> 47:44.600]  So if that particular motion is filed, the legislature has said the presiding judge
[47:44.600 --> 47:49.600]  must forward the motion to the local administrative judge,
[47:49.600 --> 47:55.600]  and the judge is to appoint a different judge to hear this motion.
[47:55.600 --> 47:58.600]  Now, that's not something over which the judge has discretion.
[47:58.600 --> 48:00.600]  He must do that thing.
[48:00.600 --> 48:02.600]  That's a ministerial duty.
[48:02.600 --> 48:04.600]  I filed one of those.
[48:04.600 --> 48:07.600]  Another judge looked at it and says, oh, there's no problem here.
[48:07.600 --> 48:08.600]  Send it back.
[48:08.600 --> 48:10.600]  They always do that.
[48:10.600 --> 48:12.600]  But that was an example.
[48:12.600 --> 48:17.600]  Now, if you file a motion, it is the duty of the judge.
[48:17.600 --> 48:26.600]  It's a ministerial duty to apply the existing law to the facts developed in the case.
[48:26.600 --> 48:30.600]  If he fails to apply the existing law to the facts in the case,
[48:30.600 --> 48:34.600]  he's violated a ministerial duty.
[48:34.600 --> 48:36.600]  You sue him for that.
[48:36.600 --> 48:42.600]  And he also denied you a right, petitioned criminally for that,
[48:42.600 --> 48:45.600]  and a judicial conduct complaint.
[48:45.600 --> 48:48.600]  Now, if you file a judicial conduct complaint against the judge,
[48:48.600 --> 48:54.600]  they're going to say they find no misconduct by the judge.
[48:54.600 --> 48:56.600]  Just rubber stamp.
[48:56.600 --> 48:57.600]  I filed one of those.
[48:57.600 --> 49:01.600]  They even gave me case numbers and nothing.
[49:01.600 --> 49:08.600]  What you've got to understand is it stings him.
[49:08.600 --> 49:12.600]  He's not going to tell you it stings him.
[49:12.600 --> 49:17.600]  You know, if we get in an altercation and I got a really bad bruised up shoulder,
[49:17.600 --> 49:20.600]  I'm not going to push that shoulder up in front of your face and say,
[49:20.600 --> 49:22.600]  oh, don't hit me right here.
[49:22.600 --> 49:25.600]  It hurts.
[49:25.600 --> 49:27.600]  The judge is the same way.
[49:27.600 --> 49:34.600]  He's not going to let you know what that judicial conduct complaint does to him.
[49:34.600 --> 49:36.600]  He's a federal judge.
[49:36.600 --> 49:39.600]  He wants to be an appellate judge.
[49:39.600 --> 49:43.600]  In order to be an appellate judge, you have to be appointed.
[49:43.600 --> 49:49.600]  To get appointed, you have to somehow rise up above all the other judges.
[49:49.600 --> 49:53.600]  You're not going to do that with judicial conduct complaints against you.
[49:53.600 --> 50:02.600]  Tony Davis is just working on a judge in D.C. who is up for an appeals court appointment.
[50:02.600 --> 50:07.600]  I'm sorry, North Carolina, up for a court of appeals appointment.
[50:07.600 --> 50:12.600]  And he didn't want to overturn or he didn't want to get his case overturned,
[50:12.600 --> 50:17.600]  so he didn't rule on the sensitive issues because he still wanted to rule
[50:17.600 --> 50:21.600]  for the client that had paid him.
[50:21.600 --> 50:24.600]  So he just ignored the issues.
[50:24.600 --> 50:26.600]  Well, that's what they did in my case.
[50:26.600 --> 50:29.600]  Well, Tony went after him for it.
[50:29.600 --> 50:30.600]  Yeah.
[50:30.600 --> 50:38.600]  And he had to recuse himself from the case, and that will cost him his appointment.
[50:38.600 --> 50:41.600]  Well, I'd like to do a little more than just cost him an appointment.
[50:41.600 --> 50:44.600]  I'd like to see him get some prison time and maybe even sue him
[50:44.600 --> 50:47.600]  and get some money out of him.
[50:47.600 --> 50:52.600]  Well, now, suing is different than look at ministerial duties.
[50:52.600 --> 51:02.600]  And really hurting them is, you know, getting a good suit against them is not about so much the facts
[51:02.600 --> 51:05.600]  but the claim that you make.
[51:05.600 --> 51:11.600]  The first thing you want to do is get a book on causes of actions for California.
[51:11.600 --> 51:15.600]  Causes of action will give you a tremendous amount of tools,
[51:15.600 --> 51:23.600]  and it will tell you exactly how to frame those tools like negligence per se.
[51:23.600 --> 51:25.600]  I'm sorry, per se.
[51:25.600 --> 51:28.600]  Negligence per se.
[51:28.600 --> 51:36.600]  If a public official or if anyone who has a duty to you either under contract
[51:36.600 --> 51:44.600]  or a common law duty violates that duty, that's negligence per se.
[51:44.600 --> 51:57.600]  The judge is under contract with the United States to give a fair,
[51:57.600 --> 52:04.600]  I forget what the exact terminology is, but fair and just dealings
[52:04.600 --> 52:08.600]  in protecting the rights of the citizens.
[52:08.600 --> 52:15.600]  That makes you a third-party beneficiary to the contract,
[52:15.600 --> 52:18.600]  gives you standing to sue under the contract.
[52:18.600 --> 52:23.600]  So the judge is under contract with the United States, and you're a third-party beneficiary.
[52:23.600 --> 52:27.600]  So if he violates it, you can sue him personally.
[52:27.600 --> 52:36.600]  So if he fails to properly apply the law to the facts, you show the law, you show the facts,
[52:36.600 --> 52:42.600]  you show how he violated the law by applying a different standard to the facts,
[52:42.600 --> 52:50.600]  and charge him with violating a ministerial duty, the duty to apply the law to the facts,
[52:50.600 --> 52:55.600]  sue him for it, and then file against him criminally.
[52:55.600 --> 53:01.600]  By making, if you make the allegation right, he doesn't get summary judgment.
[53:01.600 --> 53:04.600]  They're going to want to give him summary judgment.
[53:04.600 --> 53:09.600]  Say petitioner makes no claim for which relief can be had.
[53:09.600 --> 53:14.600]  That's when you don't state a cause of action.
[53:14.600 --> 53:20.600]  Negligence per se has elements to the cause of action.
[53:20.600 --> 53:26.600]  There must be a contract or a relationship of trust.
[53:26.600 --> 53:32.600]  The defendant violates the contract or the relationship of trust.
[53:32.600 --> 53:35.600]  The party was injured by the violation.
[53:35.600 --> 53:38.600]  You have to prove all of those.
[53:38.600 --> 53:39.600]  It's not that hard to do.
[53:39.600 --> 53:41.600]  A judge just grew up everything.
[53:41.600 --> 53:43.600]  Well, they sure did in my case.
[53:43.600 --> 53:44.600]  Okay.
[53:44.600 --> 53:45.600]  Here's his problem.
[53:45.600 --> 53:47.600]  Here's the judge's problem.
[53:47.600 --> 53:50.600]  You have stated a cause of action.
[53:50.600 --> 53:56.600]  In the cause of action, you alleged that the judge violated a ministerial duty.
[53:56.600 --> 54:07.600]  Now, a judge does not have a judicial immunity for violations of a ministerial duty.
[54:07.600 --> 54:10.600]  And you have stated a cause of action.
[54:10.600 --> 54:12.600]  Now, the other side is going to disagree with it.
[54:12.600 --> 54:14.600]  But here's their problem.
[54:14.600 --> 54:20.600]  The only way for the judge not to have a lot of trouble is to get summary judgment on the front end.
[54:20.600 --> 54:35.600]  But if you make your case, state your case correctly, you can create matters of fact that are in disagreement.
[54:35.600 --> 54:41.600]  Issues of fact, that's the word the law says.
[54:41.600 --> 54:48.600]  If there is an issue of material fact unresolved, you cannot get summary judgment.
[54:48.600 --> 54:59.600]  If the attorney can show that you made no claim for which relief could be had by not stating a cause of action,
[54:59.600 --> 55:02.600]  you could say the judge did this, the judge did that, the judge did the other.
[55:02.600 --> 55:10.600]  But if you didn't state it in the form of cause of action, he can make this claim and they can say, yep, throw it out.
[55:10.600 --> 55:17.600]  But if you make a claim that is a cause of action and is defined as a cause of action,
[55:17.600 --> 55:26.600]  supported by allegations toward each of the elements, they're going to disagree with your allegations.
[55:26.600 --> 55:31.600]  Well, Bubba, that's a material fact in dispute.
[55:31.600 --> 55:38.600]  That can only be worked out in the courts in a proper hearing so they can't get summary judgment.
[55:38.600 --> 55:45.600]  The hardest thing to get past for a pro se, especially going after public officials, is summary judgment.
[55:45.600 --> 55:48.600]  They're going to throw it out immediately.
[55:48.600 --> 55:52.600]  Well, in my case, they took a year and then threw it out.
[55:52.600 --> 55:55.600]  Well, that's because you followed them like crazy.
[55:55.600 --> 56:05.600]  Had you been going after that judge's throat from the very first crack out of the hat, the whole perspective would have changed.
[56:05.600 --> 56:09.600]  You no longer ask the judge to do something.
[56:09.600 --> 56:11.600]  You demand that he do it.
[56:11.600 --> 56:16.600]  Well, you know, I did that. When I first started, I was filing motions.
[56:16.600 --> 56:20.600]  And after about the third one, I said, no, no, no, I'm not filing motions anymore.
[56:20.600 --> 56:22.600]  From now on, I'm filing notice and demand.
[56:22.600 --> 56:26.600]  I'm noticing you that it's a law and I'm demanding that you do it.
[56:26.600 --> 56:27.600]  You're right.
[56:27.600 --> 56:29.600]  That's what a motion really is.
[56:29.600 --> 56:33.600]  People think a motion is some kind of a polite request.
[56:33.600 --> 56:34.600]  It's not.
[56:34.600 --> 56:38.600]  You move the court to do what the law requires it to do.
[56:38.600 --> 56:41.600]  You're not asking, you're demanding.
[56:41.600 --> 56:44.600]  The other side is going to demand that he do something else.
[56:44.600 --> 56:50.600]  See, I demanded summary judgment because the defense never answered the complaint.
[56:50.600 --> 56:58.600]  I demanded that he provide proof on the record that he has a note of office pursuant to the Constitution.
[56:58.600 --> 57:03.600]  I filed a motion claiming the right to exercise all my constitutional rights.
[57:03.600 --> 57:09.600]  And the U.S. attorney filed a motion opposing my right to exercise my constitutional rights.
[57:09.600 --> 57:19.600]  You should have filed for sanctions against the attorney and filed a bar grievance against him for filing that.
[57:19.600 --> 57:23.600]  Bar grievances are really powerful.
[57:23.600 --> 57:27.600]  Judicial conduct complaints are really powerful.
[57:27.600 --> 57:35.600]  Now, the judicial conduct commission is going to throw the judicial conduct complaint in the trash.
[57:35.600 --> 57:41.600]  The American Bar Association is going to throw your bar complaint in the trash.
[57:41.600 --> 57:43.600]  It's still going to hurt him.
[57:43.600 --> 57:48.600]  The judge is going to hurt him because they count against him for any kind of promotion
[57:48.600 --> 57:56.600]  and very likely to count against him like now when a new administration comes in office.
[57:56.600 --> 57:58.600]  They're going to look at this.
[57:58.600 --> 58:02.600]  That's all fine, Randy, about hurting him and all that.
[58:02.600 --> 58:05.600]  But at the end of the day, I still don't have my remedy.
[58:05.600 --> 58:08.600]  Have you filed criminal charges against the judge?
[58:08.600 --> 58:09.600]  No, not yet.
[58:09.600 --> 58:14.600]  Well, you can't say there's no remedy if you haven't went after his throat.
[58:14.600 --> 58:16.600]  Well, that's what I want to do now.
[58:16.600 --> 58:17.600]  Now, can I do this?
[58:17.600 --> 58:23.600]  Can I file with the California grand jury for a federal judge?
[58:23.600 --> 58:27.600]  No. Oh, wait, maybe, maybe.
[58:27.600 --> 58:28.600]  Wait, hold on, hold on.
[58:28.600 --> 58:29.600]  Listen, guys, listen.
[58:29.600 --> 58:31.600]  Stay on to the other side.
[58:31.600 --> 58:33.600]  We're at the top of the hour at a break.
[58:33.600 --> 58:35.600]  So, Chuck, hang on the line.
[58:35.600 --> 58:38.600]  Michael from Kansas, Bill from Wisconsin, Travis from Minnesota.
[58:38.600 --> 58:41.600]  We will get to you guys, so please stay on the line as well.
[58:41.600 --> 58:42.600]  We'll be right back.
[58:42.600 --> 58:47.600]  This is the rule of law, Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens.
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[59:55.600 --> 01:00:18.600]  Yeah, a story for everyone to hear, like how we're not going to give in to the fear.
[01:00:18.600 --> 01:00:28.600]  I will identify my father's house, until he returns.
[01:00:28.600 --> 01:00:39.600]  He has to be with us, raised and with us, to aid my concerns.
[01:00:39.600 --> 01:00:50.600]  Yeah, I will identify my father's house, until I see his face.
[01:00:50.600 --> 01:01:01.600]  I will guard these walls with fences, to make our mistakes explain.
[01:01:01.600 --> 01:01:10.600]  I will identify my father's house, until he returns.
[01:01:10.600 --> 01:01:18.600]  He has to be with us, raised and with us, to aid my concerns.
[01:01:18.600 --> 01:01:23.600]  I will guard these walls with fences, to make our mistakes explain.
[01:01:23.600 --> 01:01:34.600]  I will identify my father's house, until I see his face.
[01:01:34.600 --> 01:01:45.600]  He has to be with us, raised and with us, to make our mistakes explain.
[01:01:45.600 --> 01:01:58.600]  We will occupy our father's house, until he returns back to the earth.
[01:01:58.600 --> 01:02:00.600]  Talking about a good Lord Jesus here.
[01:02:00.600 --> 01:02:04.600]  All right, we are speaking with Chuck from California.
[01:02:04.600 --> 01:02:06.600]  Callers, other callers, please hang on the line.
[01:02:06.600 --> 01:02:11.600]  We like to spend time with our callers and make sure all their questions get answered very thoroughly.
[01:02:11.600 --> 01:02:16.600]  That's why we do a four-hour show on Friday evenings, to make sure everyone has plenty of time.
[01:02:16.600 --> 01:02:20.600]  Just hang in there, people who are waiting on the line, Michael, Bill and Travis.
[01:02:20.600 --> 01:02:22.600]  We are speaking with Chuck.
[01:02:22.600 --> 01:02:27.600]  Chuck, the remedy here is to file criminal charges against this judge.
[01:02:27.600 --> 01:02:36.600]  You find ways where he has violated his jurisdiction, and then you can sue him as well.
[01:02:36.600 --> 01:02:45.600]  If you can find ministerial, administrative errors, you can sue him without even disqualifying him.
[01:02:45.600 --> 01:02:51.600]  Judges do not have immunity from lawsuits regarding their administrative decisions.
[01:02:51.600 --> 01:02:57.600]  They only have civil litigation immunity for judicial decisions that they make.
[01:02:57.600 --> 01:03:03.600]  You look at what he has done as far as administrative decisions, try to sue him for those things.
[01:03:03.600 --> 01:03:14.600]  You find out where he has violated the law, and then you can have him disqualified, file criminal charges, and sue him again.
[01:03:14.600 --> 01:03:20.600]  All right, sue him for making improper judicial decisions once you've managed to get him disqualified.
[01:03:20.600 --> 01:03:22.600]  So those are some of the remedies.
[01:03:22.600 --> 01:03:25.600]  Randy, you want to continue and explain some of this more thoroughly?
[01:03:25.600 --> 01:03:34.600]  If you're expecting to be able to just file a motion and have magic happen, it's not going to.
[01:03:34.600 --> 01:03:39.600]  These guys are going to fight you tooth and nail at every step.
[01:03:39.600 --> 01:03:47.600]  And no matter how badly you hurt them, they're going to do everything they can not to let you know.
[01:03:47.600 --> 01:03:53.600]  The last thing they want you to know is if what you're doing is effective.
[01:03:53.600 --> 01:04:01.600]  So if we're ever going to get our courts back, we've just got to start hammering at them and stay after them.
[01:04:01.600 --> 01:04:06.600]  If they've already dismissed your case, you've got nothing to lose.
[01:04:06.600 --> 01:04:07.600]  Go for their throats.
[01:04:07.600 --> 01:04:11.600]  If you find where the judge has violated a law relating to his office,
[01:04:11.600 --> 01:04:20.600]  move to disqualify the judge from the beginning under the ab initio, trespass ab initio doctrine.
[01:04:20.600 --> 01:04:24.600]  There's all kind of things you can do to beat them up.
[01:04:24.600 --> 01:04:32.600]  And now that, you know, if they've already ruled against you, you can't lose.
[01:04:32.600 --> 01:04:33.600]  You can only win.
[01:04:33.600 --> 01:04:37.600]  It only gets bad for them.
[01:04:37.600 --> 01:04:42.600]  I just spent a night in jail here in Travis County.
[01:04:42.600 --> 01:04:49.600]  They bashed my face in, messed up my new suit, and gave me 24 hours in a little cell.
[01:04:49.600 --> 01:04:52.600]  Well, that was really uncomfortable.
[01:04:52.600 --> 01:05:01.600]  But all the time I'm in there, I'm thinking, you guys are not going to believe what's going to happen to you when I get out of here.
[01:05:01.600 --> 01:05:11.600]  And today I was on the phone to Major John Madden, and I crawled down his throat like he was a little kid.
[01:05:11.600 --> 01:05:22.600]  I was on the phone, and I said, Major Madden, tell me, who sent Sergeant McNeil out to beat the crap out of me and throw me in jail?
[01:05:22.600 --> 01:05:25.600]  Because I exerted my Fifth Amendment right.
[01:05:25.600 --> 01:05:27.600]  Who sent him out there to do that?
[01:05:27.600 --> 01:05:30.600]  Oh, I didn't do it.
[01:05:30.600 --> 01:05:32.600]  Well, are you Respondent Superior?
[01:05:32.600 --> 01:05:36.600]  Well, I don't know what you're talking about.
[01:05:36.600 --> 01:05:39.600]  Well, let me explain it to you then.
[01:05:39.600 --> 01:05:52.600]  I spent about 20 minutes explaining what all went on, that I had about six DPS officers out there, and I'd give them a hard time, and all of them had acted professionally.
[01:05:52.600 --> 01:06:06.600]  So somebody down there sent this sergeant down to show your deputies what to do when a citizen exerts his Fifth Amendment right and tells him he doesn't want to talk to him.
[01:06:06.600 --> 01:06:12.600]  He went down there and showed him how to grab the guy up and beat the crap out of him and throw him in jail.
[01:06:12.600 --> 01:06:17.600]  Who sent him down there to train those officers that way?
[01:06:17.600 --> 01:06:20.600]  Oh, Mr. Colton, I don't think that was part of the training.
[01:06:20.600 --> 01:06:22.600]  Sure looked like it.
[01:06:22.600 --> 01:06:23.600]  Wasn't he a supervisor?
[01:06:23.600 --> 01:06:24.600]  Isn't that what he does?
[01:06:24.600 --> 01:06:27.600]  Doesn't he show your officers how to conduct themselves?
[01:06:27.600 --> 01:06:31.600]  I was just all over this major.
[01:06:31.600 --> 01:06:46.600]  And you know the major is not going to be happy with me crawling down his throat and accusing him of being Respondent Superior when it wasn't even his territory.
[01:06:46.600 --> 01:06:48.600]  And I knew that.
[01:06:48.600 --> 01:07:09.600]  So he's going to call the major who is over this guy and tell him that he's got some guy crawling down his throat accusing him of being Respondent Superior because one of your sergeants beat the crap out of him for exerting his Fifth Amendment right.
[01:07:09.600 --> 01:07:13.600]  So he'll give the major a heads up.
[01:07:13.600 --> 01:07:17.600]  But what he'll also do is embarrass the major.
[01:07:17.600 --> 01:07:26.600]  And when Major Remy gets through with Sergeant McNeil, Sergeant McNeil is going to wish he hadn't messed with me.
[01:07:26.600 --> 01:07:42.600]  But when I get through with Sergeant McNeil, he may wind up in prison because I knew the law going in and I will hold them to every single tiny little letter of it.
[01:07:42.600 --> 01:07:51.600]  Well see now that's what I think is important because if we start getting some of these people behind bars, maybe the others will sit up and take notice.
[01:07:51.600 --> 01:07:57.600]  Even if we don't get them behind bars, they will take notice anyway.
[01:07:57.600 --> 01:08:02.600]  I was doing a seminar in Colorado and I was talking about this.
[01:08:02.600 --> 01:08:11.600]  When you go for the grand jury, when you make grand jury noises, it scares the crap out of everybody.
[01:08:11.600 --> 01:08:21.600]  Now they know, they're pretty sure that this guy, well he'll never get to the grand jury and even if he does, why they won't indict me.
[01:08:21.600 --> 01:08:28.600]  But they could. And what if he did? And they did. Um, history.
[01:08:28.600 --> 01:08:33.600]  So I said, okay guys, who here wants to play Russian Roulette?
[01:08:33.600 --> 01:08:41.600]  Here, we don't want you to use a six-shooter. Let's take a nine mil and put 14 blanks in one live cartridge.
[01:08:41.600 --> 01:08:45.600]  Just shuffle them up, load up the clip. Who wants to take the first shot?
[01:08:45.600 --> 01:08:52.600]  What, no takers? Public officials are bigger cowards than anyone.
[01:08:52.600 --> 01:08:58.600]  You start going after them personally, it scares the crap all out of them.
[01:08:58.600 --> 01:09:04.600]  They know how corrupt the system is and the last thing they want is to get wound up in it.
[01:09:04.600 --> 01:09:16.600]  Well now speaking of going after them, before the break we started to talk about if I could go to the L.A. County grand jury to file complaints against federal judges
[01:09:16.600 --> 01:09:20.600]  because the crimes they committed were committed in California.
[01:09:20.600 --> 01:09:23.600]  Yes, within the boundaries of the state of California.
[01:09:23.600 --> 01:09:33.600]  What you can maintain is, is that if the judge violated a law relating to his office,
[01:09:33.600 --> 01:09:43.600]  he has, what's the term, repudiated his contract with the United States.
[01:09:43.600 --> 01:09:49.600]  He's in a contract with the United States. All this stuff about an oath of office?
[01:09:49.600 --> 01:09:54.600]  That establishes a contract. That's what's so important about it.
[01:09:54.600 --> 01:10:00.600]  That binds him in a contract and you're the third party beneficiary.
[01:10:00.600 --> 01:10:11.600]  The contract he entered into, he entered into for your benefit personally and he's in a relationship of trust with you.
[01:10:11.600 --> 01:10:24.600]  If he fails to perform on the contract, then he abrogates the contract and renders the contract void.
[01:10:24.600 --> 01:10:32.600]  Could you say then that he's no longer acting in a judicial capacity, but he's masquerading as he's an imposter?
[01:10:32.600 --> 01:10:40.600]  You got it. You got it. Dead on. That's exactly what you claim.
[01:10:40.600 --> 01:10:48.600]  And then let him show that he didn't abrogate the contract, that he did follow law.
[01:10:48.600 --> 01:10:56.600]  So he's no longer in a federal venue or federal territory. He's now within the state of California committing crimes.
[01:10:56.600 --> 01:11:05.600]  Ta-da! Exactly. That's the allegation you make before, for a state grand jury.
[01:11:05.600 --> 01:11:14.600]  You're going to have to have a good argument, primarily look for trespass ab initio.
[01:11:14.600 --> 01:11:27.600]  What the trespass ab initio doctrine says, that if you trespass on the law, then even if you're, like it references a police officer,
[01:11:27.600 --> 01:11:40.600]  if a police officer makes an arrest and the arrest is proper, if he subsequently violates a law, then he becomes a trespasser ab initio from the beginning and all his acts are defeated.
[01:11:40.600 --> 01:11:52.600]  That's how we go to the judge. If anywhere in the process of adjudicating your case he violates a law, he becomes a trespasser from the beginning.
[01:11:52.600 --> 01:12:05.600]  And you go back and charge him with impersonating a judicial officer. You charge him with perjury on his oath, aggravated perjury when he filed his oath,
[01:12:05.600 --> 01:12:17.600]  maintaining that when he filed the oath, he filed it falsely, knowing that he would not, he would abrogate the contract.
[01:12:17.600 --> 01:12:25.600]  Now he left prove he didn't, you know, that's one he'll probably beat, but we want to file all the charges we can against him.
[01:12:25.600 --> 01:12:40.600]  And 18 U.S. Code 232 and another thing to look at, even if they pull you from the state back to the Fed, read 18 U.S. Code 13.
[01:12:40.600 --> 01:12:57.600]  What 13 says is that if there is no federal statute covering a specific act and there is a state statute covering that act within the,
[01:12:57.600 --> 01:13:13.600]  that surrounds the jurisdiction wherein the federal territory exists, you can migrate the state statute to the federal and prosecute him in the federal with the state statute.
[01:13:13.600 --> 01:13:18.600]  Can we reverse that and bring federal law into the state court?
[01:13:18.600 --> 01:13:35.600]  Absolutely. That you can always do. If someone's in the state and he violates a federal statute that's not, he does something that's not addressed in state statute
[01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:39.600]  but is addressed in the federal, you can migrate the federal.
[01:13:39.600 --> 01:13:48.600]  If he does something in the state that's not addressed by the state but is addressed by another state, you can migrate that into the state.
[01:13:48.600 --> 01:13:51.600]  Is that under the 14th Amendment equal protection?
[01:13:51.600 --> 01:13:59.600]  No, that goes to hierarchy of law. That's really not in statute, it's in case law.
[01:13:59.600 --> 01:14:16.600]  And the basis of it is, is that if you have an issue that your legislature has not addressed, they trust all the other state's legislators to pass fair and equitable law.
[01:14:16.600 --> 01:14:30.600]  So if there's a well established statute in another jurisdiction that addresses something our legislature has yet to address, then you can migrate a statute
[01:14:30.600 --> 01:14:34.600]  another legislature has addressed and bring it into the state.
[01:14:34.600 --> 01:14:40.600]  This goes to hierarchy. So you can pull down federal law, you can pull down other state's law.
[01:14:40.600 --> 01:14:48.600]  If you're in the Fed, you can pull up state law for anything the Fed hasn't addressed directly.
[01:14:48.600 --> 01:14:55.600]  The jurisdiction, whatever jurisdiction you're in, their law is the highest law.
[01:14:55.600 --> 01:15:05.600]  So you can't pull, if the state has a statute that's not written the way you like it, you can't go to another state and pull one in and use it instead.
[01:15:05.600 --> 01:15:10.600]  If the state has one, you have to use theirs if they've addressed the issue.
[01:15:10.600 --> 01:15:13.600]  But if they haven't addressed the issue, you can pull it in.
[01:15:13.600 --> 01:15:28.600]  This way we can, whichever way we go, it's better to prosecute the Fed and the state and the state and the feds, whatever it says, because they're not in bed with each other.
[01:15:28.600 --> 01:15:35.600]  But if you can just simply attack the judge's jurisdiction, you've got a good shot at bringing him back to the state.
[01:15:35.600 --> 01:15:38.600]  And it's all about convincing the grand jury.
[01:15:38.600 --> 01:15:44.600]  It's not about an ultimate conviction because that's extremely difficult to get.
[01:15:44.600 --> 01:15:52.600]  Judges, even if they're state judges prosecuting federal judges, they don't want to convict judges.
[01:15:52.600 --> 01:15:55.600]  It's real hard and it's against human nature.
[01:15:55.600 --> 01:16:02.600]  But grand jury members are not judges, so they don't have that reluctance.
[01:16:02.600 --> 01:16:10.600]  If you can convince them and get an indictment, the judge's history, his career is over.
[01:16:10.600 --> 01:16:14.600]  See, that's what I'd like to do and then go against him civilly.
[01:16:14.600 --> 01:16:27.600]  That's why you look at, look real close at the kinds of decisions he's making, administrative and, what is it?
[01:16:27.600 --> 01:16:28.600]  Lost the term.
[01:16:28.600 --> 01:16:29.600]  Judicial.
[01:16:29.600 --> 01:16:30.600]  No, not judicial.
[01:16:30.600 --> 01:16:32.600]  Ministerial and administrative.
[01:16:32.600 --> 01:16:33.600]  Administrative.
[01:16:33.600 --> 01:16:36.600]  Those he has no immunity from.
[01:16:36.600 --> 01:16:37.600]  We'll be right back on the other side.
[01:16:37.600 --> 01:16:40.600]  We'll try to move along because we've got a bunch of folks on there.
[01:16:40.600 --> 01:16:41.600]  Yes.
[01:16:41.600 --> 01:16:43.600]  Okay, Chuck, hang on to the other side.
[01:16:43.600 --> 01:16:47.600]  We're going to finish up and then we'll go to Michael, Bill, Travis and Mena.
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[01:19:34.600 --> 01:19:37.600]  We are the people of generation X, Y and Z.
[01:19:37.600 --> 01:19:41.600]  Babylon, but you're not going to be full of this generation too.
[01:19:41.600 --> 01:19:44.600]  You say that we're not blind, you know that we can't see.
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[01:20:04.600 --> 01:20:07.600]  They keep making, they keep making so angry.
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[01:20:27.600 --> 01:20:33.600]  All right, we are talking right now with Chuck in California about how to sue these judges,
[01:20:33.600 --> 01:20:35.600]  how to go after them criminally.
[01:20:35.600 --> 01:20:36.600]  Okay, Randy, please continue.
[01:20:36.600 --> 01:20:41.600]  You were talking about they can be sued for administrative and ministerial decisions,
[01:20:41.600 --> 01:20:44.600]  which are basically just about the same thing.
[01:20:44.600 --> 01:20:50.600]  And then you've got the judicial decisions that they can't really be sued for unless you can disqualify them.
[01:20:50.600 --> 01:20:58.600]  Yeah, we see if you move for continuance, and the other side objects to the continuance,
[01:20:58.600 --> 01:21:03.600]  and the judge listens to both of you and decides whether or not to give you a continuance,
[01:21:03.600 --> 01:21:06.600]  that's a judicial decision.
[01:21:06.600 --> 01:21:16.600]  If you file a motion to disqualify, giving the motion to the head administrative judge of the district,
[01:21:16.600 --> 01:21:21.600]  that's ministerial, that's something the law mandates he must do.
[01:21:21.600 --> 01:21:30.600]  And say you do like something I'm planning on doing is I've got a guy here that got a DUI.
[01:21:30.600 --> 01:21:35.600]  I'm going to give him, I've got to set a blank motions.
[01:21:35.600 --> 01:21:38.600]  He just fills in the blanks and files them.
[01:21:38.600 --> 01:21:47.600]  And they will address about 21 due process violations that occur on every arrest.
[01:21:47.600 --> 01:21:50.600]  Give those to his attorney.
[01:21:50.600 --> 01:21:56.600]  And his attorney is going to refuse to file them because one thing, they're way out of his league.
[01:21:56.600 --> 01:22:02.600]  The other, there are allegations against the judge in there.
[01:22:02.600 --> 01:22:06.600]  And he's not going to want to make any allegations against the judge because he's buddies with the judge
[01:22:06.600 --> 01:22:08.600]  and he makes a lot of money with the judge.
[01:22:08.600 --> 01:22:11.600]  So he's going to refuse to file them.
[01:22:11.600 --> 01:22:17.600]  The guy is going to file 21 bar grievances against the attorney and that will end his career.
[01:22:17.600 --> 01:22:21.600]  The attorney is going to run to the judge and ask to be removed from the case.
[01:22:21.600 --> 01:22:25.600]  And we're going to run to the judge and demand that he not remove him from the case.
[01:22:25.600 --> 01:22:27.600]  We have a contract with him.
[01:22:27.600 --> 01:22:28.600]  I paid him.
[01:22:28.600 --> 01:22:30.600]  He has a duty to represent me.
[01:22:30.600 --> 01:22:33.600]  And the judge is going to go ahead and remove him.
[01:22:33.600 --> 01:22:39.600]  Then the judge finds out why we did it because we're setting up the judge.
[01:22:39.600 --> 01:22:43.600]  That is not a ministerial decision.
[01:22:43.600 --> 01:22:45.600]  Neither is it a judicial decision.
[01:22:45.600 --> 01:22:48.600]  That's an administrative decision.
[01:22:48.600 --> 01:22:56.600]  It goes to the administration of the case, not to the facts of the case, to the issues of the case,
[01:22:56.600 --> 01:23:00.600]  but to how the case is administrated.
[01:23:00.600 --> 01:23:02.600]  No immunity for that one.
[01:23:02.600 --> 01:23:04.600]  We sue the judge.
[01:23:04.600 --> 01:23:11.600]  And we look for, look close at the kinds of decisions the judge is making.
[01:23:11.600 --> 01:23:17.600]  If we can set him up to violate a ministerial duty or...
[01:23:17.600 --> 01:23:22.600]  Would you say that he has a ministerial duty to rule on all the issues?
[01:23:22.600 --> 01:23:25.600]  Yes, he most certainly does.
[01:23:25.600 --> 01:23:31.600]  And when he ignores all the issues and instead fabricates, for example,
[01:23:31.600 --> 01:23:36.600]  my case involves the IRS and the Franchise Tax Board.
[01:23:36.600 --> 01:23:42.600]  And in there, one of the claims that I made is that I have never received wages
[01:23:42.600 --> 01:23:45.600]  as defined in the Internal Revenue Code.
[01:23:45.600 --> 01:23:49.600]  The judge, and giving grounds for dismissing my case,
[01:23:49.600 --> 01:23:55.600]  stated that plain enough, me, claims wages are not taxable.
[01:23:55.600 --> 01:23:57.600]  I never made that claim.
[01:23:57.600 --> 01:24:02.600]  It's a fraud, isn't it?
[01:24:02.600 --> 01:24:06.600]  Not necessarily.
[01:24:06.600 --> 01:24:09.600]  That's when I informed him of his mistake.
[01:24:09.600 --> 01:24:12.600]  And I said, no, I never made that claim.
[01:24:12.600 --> 01:24:15.600]  Did he make it in open court?
[01:24:15.600 --> 01:24:19.600]  Well, no, this was federal court, so it was just all paperwork back and forth.
[01:24:19.600 --> 01:24:24.600]  So eventually you should get in court, but it's better to do it in paperwork.
[01:24:24.600 --> 01:24:26.600]  Do you have it on paper?
[01:24:26.600 --> 01:24:27.600]  Yes.
[01:24:27.600 --> 01:24:30.600]  And he stated on paper that he didn't make the claim?
[01:24:30.600 --> 01:24:35.600]  No, he stated that one of the reasons for dismissing my complaint
[01:24:35.600 --> 01:24:41.600]  was that I claimed wages are not taxable, and I never made that claim.
[01:24:41.600 --> 01:24:42.600]  Okay.
[01:24:42.600 --> 01:24:50.600]  That is, unless he made a statement of material fact under oath that was untrue,
[01:24:50.600 --> 01:24:53.600]  you can't really go directly at him for that,
[01:24:53.600 --> 01:24:56.600]  but you can go at him for violating a ministerial duty
[01:24:56.600 --> 01:24:59.600]  by claiming that he didn't read the motion.
[01:24:59.600 --> 01:25:07.600]  Or if he did read the motion, he was incompetent and was unable to understand it.
[01:25:07.600 --> 01:25:10.600]  Well, yeah, because, I mean, they ignored just about all of that.
[01:25:10.600 --> 01:25:15.600]  It's about how you think about the judge.
[01:25:15.600 --> 01:25:20.600]  He is your servant just like the prosecutor is.
[01:25:20.600 --> 01:25:23.600]  They're there to follow law.
[01:25:23.600 --> 01:25:27.600]  Well, Randy, could he also appeal the decision?
[01:25:27.600 --> 01:25:33.600]  Because the judge is saying on paper that the reason he's not,
[01:25:33.600 --> 01:25:38.600]  the reason that he made the decision is because he's saying that Chuck here
[01:25:38.600 --> 01:25:41.600]  made certain arguments in his motions that Chuck,
[01:25:41.600 --> 01:25:43.600]  and those arguments were never made by Chuck.
[01:25:43.600 --> 01:25:44.600]  Okay.
[01:25:44.600 --> 01:25:47.600]  So couldn't the decision be challenged also?
[01:25:47.600 --> 01:25:49.600]  Wait a minute.
[01:25:49.600 --> 01:25:57.600]  Yeah, it could, but you're in tax court, and they pay attention to no law.
[01:25:57.600 --> 01:25:59.600]  Well, no, I wasn't in tax court.
[01:25:59.600 --> 01:26:01.600]  I'm in federal court.
[01:26:01.600 --> 01:26:03.600]  Well, it's federal court, but it's a tax issue.
[01:26:03.600 --> 01:26:08.600]  Have you ever had your master file decoded?
[01:26:08.600 --> 01:26:09.600]  No.
[01:26:09.600 --> 01:26:10.600]  Well, wait a minute, wait a minute.
[01:26:10.600 --> 01:26:11.600]  What court was this?
[01:26:11.600 --> 01:26:15.600]  Was this a tax court, like an administrative IRS court,
[01:26:15.600 --> 01:26:18.600]  or was this actually federal court?
[01:26:18.600 --> 01:26:20.600]  No, but see, here's the thing, though.
[01:26:20.600 --> 01:26:24.600]  The judge cannot make rulings on assumptions of fact.
[01:26:24.600 --> 01:26:29.600]  He can only rule on the facts, evidence, and law put on the case, on the record.
[01:26:29.600 --> 01:26:30.600]  Yes.
[01:26:30.600 --> 01:26:36.600]  Have you filed a judicial notice of facts?
[01:26:36.600 --> 01:26:38.600]  Not worded exactly like that.
[01:26:38.600 --> 01:26:40.600]  I file all kinds of stuff.
[01:26:40.600 --> 01:26:42.600]  Well, I mean, have you filed...
[01:26:42.600 --> 01:26:45.600]  I find judicial notices informing them of facts.
[01:26:45.600 --> 01:26:46.600]  Yes.
[01:26:46.600 --> 01:26:48.600]  Have you filed a...
[01:26:48.600 --> 01:26:57.600]  Okay, the judicial notice that you filed, did the prosecution object to the notice?
[01:26:57.600 --> 01:26:59.600]  Yes.
[01:26:59.600 --> 01:27:01.600]  Okay, then it's still...
[01:27:01.600 --> 01:27:05.600]  Was there a ruling on the facts?
[01:27:05.600 --> 01:27:07.600]  No.
[01:27:07.600 --> 01:27:09.600]  Okay.
[01:27:09.600 --> 01:27:11.600]  Then they're still up.
[01:27:11.600 --> 01:27:23.600]  Okay, for each motion that you file, you should prepare a Findings of Fact and Conclusions at Law.
[01:27:23.600 --> 01:27:33.600]  And file it with the motion and ask the judge to adopt your Findings of Fact and Conclusions at Law.
[01:27:33.600 --> 01:27:36.600]  We're in the alternative.
[01:27:36.600 --> 01:27:41.600]  This case has already been dismissed. I appealed it and they dismissed it.
[01:27:41.600 --> 01:27:43.600]  They dismissed your appeal.
[01:27:43.600 --> 01:27:44.600]  Yes.
[01:27:44.600 --> 01:27:45.600]  Okay.
[01:27:45.600 --> 01:27:49.600]  Not only that, they gave me a $1,000 sanction for filing a frivolous lawsuit.
[01:27:49.600 --> 01:27:57.600]  Yes, that's standard practice now in order to try to intimidate people and stop them from exercising their rights.
[01:27:57.600 --> 01:28:00.600]  Exactly, but isn't that a crime in itself?
[01:28:00.600 --> 01:28:03.600]  No.
[01:28:03.600 --> 01:28:09.600]  I mean, it may be reprehensible, but it's not a crime. If it's in the law, they can do it.
[01:28:09.600 --> 01:28:12.600]  But for exercising my constitutional rights?
[01:28:12.600 --> 01:28:23.600]  Okay, you've got to understand, fair, right, inequitable, and law is not necessarily the same thing.
[01:28:23.600 --> 01:28:25.600]  Unfortunately, you're right on that.
[01:28:25.600 --> 01:28:38.600]  There are occasions, and this happens a lot with people getting into these kinds of things, that you expect that your judge is going to be fair and equitable.
[01:28:38.600 --> 01:28:43.600]  That's the trust that you have with him and he violates it.
[01:28:43.600 --> 01:28:47.600]  Now we have to go back and take him apart on the details.
[01:28:47.600 --> 01:28:55.600]  First thing you need to do is get your master file and get it decoded.
[01:28:55.600 --> 01:29:02.600]  There's another file that I've heard about, and somebody told me what it was that says more important than the master file.
[01:29:02.600 --> 01:29:04.600]  Tony Davis knows about it.
[01:29:04.600 --> 01:29:06.600]  Get that decoded.
[01:29:06.600 --> 01:29:08.600]  How could I get ahold of Tony Davis?
[01:29:08.600 --> 01:29:14.600]  He's on our network Tuesday nights, 8 to 10.
[01:29:14.600 --> 01:29:16.600]  Tuesdays, 8 to 10.
[01:29:16.600 --> 01:29:18.600]  Yeah, call into his show.
[01:29:18.600 --> 01:29:21.600]  Yeah, and he can tell you about this.
[01:29:21.600 --> 01:29:28.600]  The first thing everybody who has a tax issue needs to do is get their master file decoded.
[01:29:28.600 --> 01:29:33.600]  That will tell you what they did, what they were supposed to do, and what they did that they shouldn't have done.
[01:29:33.600 --> 01:29:35.600]  Okay, listen, we're going to break.
[01:29:35.600 --> 01:29:39.600]  Okay, well, you know, I'm going to back off so some of these other folks can answer questions.
[01:29:39.600 --> 01:29:40.600]  All right, thank you.
[01:29:40.600 --> 01:29:42.600]  All right, we'll go to Michael from – thank you so much, Chuck.
[01:29:42.600 --> 01:29:44.600]  We'll go to Michael in Kansas, and we'll get back on the other side.
[01:29:44.600 --> 01:29:45.600]  We'll be right back.
[01:29:45.600 --> 01:29:53.600]  This is the Rule of Law, Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens.
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[01:30:53.600 --> 01:31:12.600]  How about you smell this, Jerry? You smell something 200 miles away in the cold? Yeah, man, that's not something 200 miles away.
[01:31:12.600 --> 01:31:16.600]  Like they're pushing up their noses and they don't want to talk?
[01:31:16.600 --> 01:31:19.600]  It's the cold shoulder, man. But, you know, it's all right.
[01:31:19.600 --> 01:31:23.600]  My grandpa used to always say, don't worry, sonny. Let them give you the cold shoulder.
[01:31:23.600 --> 01:31:28.600]  You can't freeze me. As it goes on, rest your mind peacefully, you know?
[01:31:28.600 --> 01:31:30.600]  Come on, Jerry.
[01:31:30.600 --> 01:31:32.600]  Smell the cold shoulder.
[01:31:32.600 --> 01:31:34.600]  Man, darling.
[01:31:34.600 --> 01:31:36.600]  Smell the cold shoulder.
[01:31:36.600 --> 01:31:38.600]  Sugar don't blend.
[01:31:38.600 --> 01:31:43.600]  Smell the cold shoulder from 200 miles away.
[01:31:43.600 --> 01:31:49.600]  Oh, Lord, oh, Lord, oh, what me say? Me miss me, darling. Me say me miss me, honey.
[01:31:49.600 --> 01:31:53.600]  But I don't have no phone. Me say to call see.
[01:31:53.600 --> 01:31:57.600]  Me split me A-A-T-E-N-T. Now what for me?
[01:31:57.600 --> 01:32:01.600]  MCIS said that they want take me.
[01:32:01.600 --> 01:32:05.600]  But they said that me pretending no good, you see.
[01:32:05.600 --> 01:32:09.600]  So they don't want me call. Me say, man, my honey.
[01:32:09.600 --> 01:32:13.600]  200 miles away is where she there for me.
[01:32:13.600 --> 01:32:17.600]  She think that me have somebody else, you see.
[01:32:17.600 --> 01:32:21.600]  So she give me a cold shoulder. She don't want that to me.
[01:32:21.600 --> 01:32:25.600]  Me honey, my darling, sugar don't blend.
[01:32:25.600 --> 01:32:29.600]  The bliss is what you friend, devil, not saying.
[01:32:29.600 --> 01:32:33.600]  The A-T-E-N-T on screens is not working.
[01:32:33.600 --> 01:32:37.600]  MCIS said that they not calling.
[01:32:37.600 --> 01:32:41.600]  They say my credit is not good, me A-T-E-N-T.
[01:32:41.600 --> 01:32:45.600]  Me buy a phone care to fast, me run out and take.
[01:32:45.600 --> 01:32:49.600]  Me sugar, darling, me fat don't please don't blame.
[01:32:49.600 --> 01:32:53.600]  Me honey, man, you sweet like a nice chicken wing.
[01:32:53.600 --> 01:32:57.600]  When the cold shoulder. Me darling.
[01:32:57.600 --> 01:33:01.600]  The cold shoulder. Sugar don't blend.
[01:33:01.600 --> 01:33:06.600]  The cold shoulder from 200 miles away.
[01:33:06.600 --> 01:33:10.600]  Me honey, my sweet do do.
[01:33:10.600 --> 01:33:11.600]  I love you, love you.
[01:33:11.600 --> 01:33:14.600]  All right. We can smell the cold shoulder.
[01:33:14.600 --> 01:33:18.600]  All right. Randy and I were discussing on the break just now.
[01:33:18.600 --> 01:33:24.600]  I think there was a little bit of confusion about addressing a certain point with his last caller
[01:33:24.600 --> 01:33:29.600]  regarding that the judge made a ruling.
[01:33:29.600 --> 01:33:35.600]  And apparently one of the reasons he made this ruling, and this was on the paper, on the record,
[01:33:35.600 --> 01:33:45.600]  was that the judge was saying that Chuck made a certain argument that wages weren't taxable in his motions.
[01:33:45.600 --> 01:33:47.600]  And Chuck never made that argument.
[01:33:47.600 --> 01:33:53.600]  And so I'm thinking and Chuck is thinking that that ruling should be dismissed and thrown out
[01:33:53.600 --> 01:34:00.600]  because what is the point of law here because Chuck never made that argument in his paperwork.
[01:34:00.600 --> 01:34:05.600]  And I'm not sure that that ever really got properly addressed here.
[01:34:05.600 --> 01:34:08.600]  And so Randy and I were discussing it on the break.
[01:34:08.600 --> 01:34:14.600]  And okay, Randy, tell the listeners what you were telling me on the break about this so that we can have some closure here.
[01:34:14.600 --> 01:34:16.600]  Okay. Yeah. She straightened me out on that point.
[01:34:16.600 --> 01:34:22.600]  I didn't fully address why I went on the way I did.
[01:34:22.600 --> 01:34:30.600]  You said that that was one of the reasons that he made the ruling.
[01:34:30.600 --> 01:34:33.600]  The judge only needs one reason to make his ruling.
[01:34:33.600 --> 01:34:38.600]  If that was just one of them and it wasn't the key reason, it's moot.
[01:34:38.600 --> 01:34:43.600]  If it's not primary, then it goes to no harm, no foul.
[01:34:43.600 --> 01:34:49.600]  Okay. If it was the only reason he made that ruling, then it's a big deal.
[01:34:49.600 --> 01:34:53.600]  It's a big deal. It's a point of law. You can challenge the decision, et cetera, et cetera.
[01:34:53.600 --> 01:34:58.600]  But basically, Randy, what you're saying is that the judge only needs one primary reason
[01:34:58.600 --> 01:35:07.600]  and he could theoretically put on there and I'm also ruling this way because you part your hair on the wrong side or something
[01:35:07.600 --> 01:35:15.600]  and it wouldn't make any difference or I don't really like you because you look like a tax protester or whatever.
[01:35:15.600 --> 01:35:19.600]  I don't like the suit you wore in court that day and so that's why I'm making the decision.
[01:35:19.600 --> 01:35:24.600]  He could basically list off any number of bogus reasons and it wouldn't matter
[01:35:24.600 --> 01:35:29.600]  as long as there's one primary reason that is valid. Is that what you're saying, Randy?
[01:35:29.600 --> 01:35:30.600]  Exactly what I said.
[01:35:30.600 --> 01:35:32.600]  Okay. That's what we wanted to know.
[01:35:32.600 --> 01:35:40.600]  What I was really wanting to do is bring the focus away from the things that make you angry.
[01:35:40.600 --> 01:35:48.600]  You have to take your anger and your frustration and set it aside and get really clinical.
[01:35:48.600 --> 01:35:54.600]  And generally, when someone's been beat up as much as Chuck has, it's hard to do that.
[01:35:54.600 --> 01:36:00.600]  You need to give it to somebody else who's somewhat knowledgeable
[01:36:00.600 --> 01:36:07.600]  and let them take what you have done and rip you to pieces.
[01:36:07.600 --> 01:36:10.600]  Let them tell you all of the things you missed, all the things you did right,
[01:36:10.600 --> 01:36:17.600]  and all the things you did wrong without feeling hurt or feeling like you screwed up
[01:36:17.600 --> 01:36:24.600]  because every time I do something, people tell me what I did right and what I did wrong.
[01:36:24.600 --> 01:36:28.600]  Debra, she's especially good. She has a special skill at that.
[01:36:28.600 --> 01:36:29.600]  Oh, would you come on?
[01:36:29.600 --> 01:36:33.600]  I'm trying to compliment you here.
[01:36:33.600 --> 01:36:34.600]  Oh, gosh.
[01:36:34.600 --> 01:36:37.600]  But yeah, this is not personal. It can't be personal.
[01:36:37.600 --> 01:36:41.600]  When it becomes personal, you lose your focus.
[01:36:41.600 --> 01:36:42.600]  Right. Exactly.
[01:36:42.600 --> 01:36:45.600]  Yeah. Back up. Get that master file decoded.
[01:36:45.600 --> 01:36:48.600]  You will be surprised at the crapola you'll find in there.
[01:36:48.600 --> 01:36:49.600]  All right. Yes.
[01:36:49.600 --> 01:36:53.600]  It'll give you ways of going at these guys you never even dreamed of.
[01:36:53.600 --> 01:36:56.600]  Okay. Well, let's move on, Randy, to the college I've been waiting forever.
[01:36:56.600 --> 01:36:59.600]  We've got Michael from Kansas.
[01:36:59.600 --> 01:37:04.600]  Michael, thank you for holding so long. What's on your mind tonight?
[01:37:04.600 --> 01:37:07.600]  Thanks for waking me up here.
[01:37:07.600 --> 01:37:08.600]  Okay.
[01:37:08.600 --> 01:37:10.600]  Have I been putting you to sleep?
[01:37:10.600 --> 01:37:12.600]  I'm taking it personal.
[01:37:12.600 --> 01:37:14.600]  You're taking it personal. Okay. What's on your mind?
[01:37:14.600 --> 01:37:19.600]  Well, the second thing that was on my mind since I was listening to you is,
[01:37:19.600 --> 01:37:25.600]  very recently I've come to the conclusion that it's time to take it very personal
[01:37:25.600 --> 01:37:30.600]  and go to your neighbors and knock on their door with a piece of paper in your hand
[01:37:30.600 --> 01:37:32.600]  and say, come on out, sheeple.
[01:37:32.600 --> 01:37:35.600]  We have to go visit with some more neighbors.
[01:37:35.600 --> 01:37:38.600]  And the piece of paper is a recall petition.
[01:37:38.600 --> 01:37:42.600]  Until we, the sheeple, get away from their tail-lie visions,
[01:37:42.600 --> 01:37:44.600]  I like that.
[01:37:44.600 --> 01:37:48.600]  there is going to be no solution to any of these problems
[01:37:48.600 --> 01:37:53.600]  that we've got in this unconstitutional, constitutional republic.
[01:37:53.600 --> 01:37:56.600]  Well, have courage.
[01:37:56.600 --> 01:38:00.600]  Times are, it looks like times are tough.
[01:38:00.600 --> 01:38:02.600]  You ain't seen nothing yet.
[01:38:02.600 --> 01:38:03.600]  I know it.
[01:38:03.600 --> 01:38:04.600]  It's about to get really tough.
[01:38:04.600 --> 01:38:07.600]  And that's when the sheeple get their eyes open.
[01:38:07.600 --> 01:38:09.600]  And I really don't like calling them sheeple.
[01:38:09.600 --> 01:38:12.600]  It's really not fair.
[01:38:12.600 --> 01:38:16.600]  Each of us are put here for our own purpose.
[01:38:16.600 --> 01:38:20.600]  And everybody's following their own path.
[01:38:20.600 --> 01:38:26.600]  And some of us are put here to raise these issues and some are not.
[01:38:26.600 --> 01:38:31.600]  If everybody was doing this, what we were doing,
[01:38:31.600 --> 01:38:36.600]  what we're doing now wouldn't be special.
[01:38:36.600 --> 01:38:39.600]  And everybody else has their own special things they're doing,
[01:38:39.600 --> 01:38:43.600]  and we need to honor them for who they are and where they are
[01:38:43.600 --> 01:38:50.600]  and where the one's put in the position to help in this regard.
[01:38:50.600 --> 01:38:54.600]  Let's just do our part and trust them that when the time is right for them,
[01:38:54.600 --> 01:38:56.600]  they'll step in and help.
[01:38:56.600 --> 01:38:57.600]  They will.
[01:38:57.600 --> 01:39:00.600]  I think that all that Michael is saying is that we have to wake people up
[01:39:00.600 --> 01:39:05.600]  because you could have people that would want to do the right thing
[01:39:05.600 --> 01:39:09.600]  to make a difference, but if they don't know there's a problem,
[01:39:09.600 --> 01:39:12.600]  then they'll never know and they won't do anything about it.
[01:39:12.600 --> 01:39:19.600]  And that's why I enjoy talk radio shows that are strictly news-related,
[01:39:19.600 --> 01:39:20.600]  reporting on what's going on.
[01:39:20.600 --> 01:39:25.600]  Like Alex Jones, he may not offer a whole lot of solutions.
[01:39:25.600 --> 01:39:28.600]  He has some solutions, but I can't criticize at all what he does
[01:39:28.600 --> 01:39:31.600]  because he's information.
[01:39:31.600 --> 01:39:32.600]  It's about the information.
[01:39:32.600 --> 01:39:35.600]  It's about informing people and waking them up.
[01:39:35.600 --> 01:39:39.600]  And then we take that and then we offer some solutions.
[01:39:39.600 --> 01:39:41.600]  So everybody has something to offer.
[01:39:41.600 --> 01:39:45.600]  But I'll tell you what, I never would have thought several years ago
[01:39:45.600 --> 01:39:48.600]  that I would not only be a talk show host,
[01:39:48.600 --> 01:39:54.600]  but now I have built, designed and run my own talk radio network
[01:39:54.600 --> 01:40:00.600]  and that my show and my other host shows that I produce are on many FM
[01:40:00.600 --> 01:40:01.600]  and AM stations.
[01:40:01.600 --> 01:40:04.600]  I never would have thought that I would find myself in this position.
[01:40:04.600 --> 01:40:09.600]  And the whole reason for it, and it's been a progression over the years,
[01:40:09.600 --> 01:40:14.600]  is because I was, my husband was just hitting the seek scan button one day
[01:40:14.600 --> 01:40:20.600]  and heard Alex Jones on the radio and other shows that were on the local FM,
[01:40:20.600 --> 01:40:22.600]  micro FM Patriot station.
[01:40:22.600 --> 01:40:26.600]  And so it's about getting the news out and getting the word out
[01:40:26.600 --> 01:40:29.600]  because you never know who you're going to touch
[01:40:29.600 --> 01:40:32.600]  that will be able to make a huge difference.
[01:40:32.600 --> 01:40:34.600]  And I'm not trying to toot my own horn or anything,
[01:40:34.600 --> 01:40:37.600]  but it's just like Randy, we need to, you know, he...
[01:40:37.600 --> 01:40:38.600]  Can I toot my horn?
[01:40:38.600 --> 01:40:40.600]  Randy, you can toot your horn, you know?
[01:40:40.600 --> 01:40:43.600]  But, you know, he found out things and he's doing something about it.
[01:40:43.600 --> 01:40:49.600]  And frankly, I'm not doing this for you guys.
[01:40:49.600 --> 01:40:52.600]  I'm doing this for me.
[01:40:52.600 --> 01:40:53.600]  You have to do it for you.
[01:40:53.600 --> 01:40:59.600]  If you're not doing it for you, you won't be effective.
[01:40:59.600 --> 01:41:04.600]  I do this because I get more back than I put in.
[01:41:04.600 --> 01:41:08.600]  There's going to be a time in my life when I'll have to look back at my life.
[01:41:08.600 --> 01:41:13.600]  And when I look at some of the things I've done and places I've been,
[01:41:13.600 --> 01:41:15.600]  I'm going to cringe.
[01:41:15.600 --> 01:41:21.600]  But there's going to be one place I get to look back and say, yes,
[01:41:21.600 --> 01:41:25.600]  at least once I did the right thing because it was the right thing.
[01:41:25.600 --> 01:41:31.600]  And even in the process of doing it, what I get back is a lot more than I give out.
[01:41:31.600 --> 01:41:35.600]  And what you're doing, Michael, you are absolutely right.
[01:41:35.600 --> 01:41:37.600]  We've got to wake these people up.
[01:41:37.600 --> 01:41:40.600]  But give them a break.
[01:41:40.600 --> 01:41:42.600]  They're not as bad as we think.
[01:41:42.600 --> 01:41:49.600]  And if we trust them, you're not going to get maybe one in a hundred.
[01:41:49.600 --> 01:41:54.600]  If you get one in a hundred, you're doing good.
[01:41:54.600 --> 01:41:56.600]  It'll take a lot of footwork for sure.
[01:41:56.600 --> 01:42:00.600]  I know myself, I used to be an imbecile by choice primarily.
[01:42:00.600 --> 01:42:03.600]  I just did what I was told to do and think what I was told to think.
[01:42:03.600 --> 01:42:14.600]  And that's the way the tele-vision people are trained to think the same way.
[01:42:14.600 --> 01:42:19.600]  Not only that, but the pulpits from the public tool systems
[01:42:19.600 --> 01:42:24.600]  and the churches have got people all kind of mixed up in so many ways
[01:42:24.600 --> 01:42:27.600]  and just more or less anesthetized.
[01:42:27.600 --> 01:42:34.600]  Unless you and everybody else over there starts telling people,
[01:42:34.600 --> 01:42:38.600]  hey, this is my opinion anyway.
[01:42:38.600 --> 01:42:41.600]  Well, yeah, and it's good to have the one-to-one contact.
[01:42:41.600 --> 01:42:46.600]  I mean, we're on the radio broadcasting to thousands of people,
[01:42:46.600 --> 01:42:49.600]  but the one-to-one contact is definitely important.
[01:42:49.600 --> 01:42:53.600]  And it's very crucial and effective because you have a lot of impact
[01:42:53.600 --> 01:42:55.600]  because these people know you.
[01:42:55.600 --> 01:42:58.600]  They know you personally, your friends, your neighbors.
[01:42:58.600 --> 01:43:03.600]  You know, Michael, you don't know which person you talk to
[01:43:03.600 --> 01:43:09.600]  is going to be the next Deborah Stevens, the next Alex Jones.
[01:43:09.600 --> 01:43:11.600]  You just never know.
[01:43:11.600 --> 01:43:13.600]  Besides, you'll get more back from it.
[01:43:13.600 --> 01:43:16.600]  This is worth the trouble.
[01:43:16.600 --> 01:43:21.600]  I know that I was put here and kept here for this purpose.
[01:43:21.600 --> 01:43:25.600]  Recently, a few years ago, I was inside a big tank that blew up.
[01:43:25.600 --> 01:43:27.600]  Well, I was in it, so it didn't bother me.
[01:43:27.600 --> 01:43:30.600]  All the fire and stuff belched outside of it.
[01:43:30.600 --> 01:43:33.600]  So everybody thought I was killed in there, but I wasn't hurt at all.
[01:43:33.600 --> 01:43:36.600]  And we got to talk about near-death experiences.
[01:43:36.600 --> 01:43:41.600]  And the guy I was talking to about it said, finally said, what are you doing here?
[01:43:41.600 --> 01:43:44.600]  I said, I don't know, man. I'm here for some reason.
[01:43:44.600 --> 01:43:47.600]  This is the reason he kept me here.
[01:43:47.600 --> 01:43:49.600]  Are we going to skip this break?
[01:43:49.600 --> 01:43:52.600]  We're going to skip the break because we're running low on time here.
[01:43:52.600 --> 01:43:54.600]  Do you have anything else for us, Michael?
[01:43:54.600 --> 01:44:00.600]  Well, I called when Dr. A was on just to kind of give you a hard time a little bit
[01:44:00.600 --> 01:44:06.600]  and ask you if you were mad at me because I didn't send any money into Randy's beer fund.
[01:44:06.600 --> 01:44:09.600]  Hey, I got my nickel. I got it right here.
[01:44:09.600 --> 01:44:11.600]  I've got two computers on.
[01:44:11.600 --> 01:44:16.600]  Let's say that this right-hand computer, I'm using Winamp,
[01:44:16.600 --> 01:44:20.600]  the other computer on the left had nothing open whatsoever.
[01:44:20.600 --> 01:44:25.600]  And my firewalls asked me if I wanted this app to go out.
[01:44:25.600 --> 01:44:37.600]  It was NT – I'm not a techie – NT Operating System Colonel, EXV, I think is what it was.
[01:44:37.600 --> 01:44:41.600]  And it was for an echo request packet.
[01:44:41.600 --> 01:44:45.600]  And I don't even remember where it was going, but there was nothing open.
[01:44:45.600 --> 01:44:47.600]  And I just said no.
[01:44:47.600 --> 01:44:52.600]  And then a few minutes later, over on the right-hand side where I'm listening to using Winamp,
[01:44:52.600 --> 01:45:02.600]  there comes my firewall asking me if the service installer app is trying to send a type 8 echo request packet
[01:45:02.600 --> 01:45:06.600]  to stream.ruleoflawradio.com.
[01:45:06.600 --> 01:45:10.600]  And so I thought, well, I'm going to call in and find out what this is all about
[01:45:10.600 --> 01:45:13.600]  because I'm not a techie and I just wanted to give you a hard time a little bit.
[01:45:13.600 --> 01:45:16.600]  It's just – that's just typical streaming technology.
[01:45:16.600 --> 01:45:18.600]  It's just wanting to connect to the stream.
[01:45:18.600 --> 01:45:20.600]  That's all.
[01:45:20.600 --> 01:45:22.600]  Is that what – yeah.
[01:45:22.600 --> 01:45:24.600]  Maybe the stream was broken or something?
[01:45:24.600 --> 01:45:26.600]  No, the stream's not broken.
[01:45:26.600 --> 01:45:27.600]  We're on the air.
[01:45:27.600 --> 01:45:30.600]  I've never seen anything like – or that's what –
[01:45:30.600 --> 01:45:37.600]  Oh, it's probably – with packets, in the stream it sends a set of packets.
[01:45:37.600 --> 01:45:42.600]  And the stream on the other side is noticed to how many packets are coming
[01:45:42.600 --> 01:45:46.600]  and then it counts the packets and then it echoes back how many packets it got.
[01:45:46.600 --> 01:45:53.600]  So if the parity doesn't match, then it knows it has a problem and it resends the packets.
[01:45:53.600 --> 01:45:59.600]  So it may have dropped a packet so that the number it expected to see it didn't see
[01:45:59.600 --> 01:46:03.600]  and it's echoing back to the other side what it got.
[01:46:03.600 --> 01:46:05.600]  That's just a guess of what it could be.
[01:46:05.600 --> 01:46:06.600]  Yeah.
[01:46:06.600 --> 01:46:09.600]  It all depends on how people have their computers configured, really.
[01:46:09.600 --> 01:46:11.600]  There's nothing wrong with a stream.
[01:46:11.600 --> 01:46:13.600]  Well, I'm just skeptical.
[01:46:13.600 --> 01:46:14.600]  I think it's a CLA.
[01:46:14.600 --> 01:46:15.600]  Yeah, really.
[01:46:15.600 --> 01:46:20.600]  One computer had no program open whatsoever, nothing.
[01:46:20.600 --> 01:46:26.600]  It's probably your Internet connection to – or your router, bottlenecks and stuff like that.
[01:46:26.600 --> 01:46:28.600]  But if you don't have anything else, we really need to go.
[01:46:28.600 --> 01:46:30.600]  We need to move on because we're coming to the end of the show.
[01:46:30.600 --> 01:46:31.600]  We've got three more calls.
[01:46:31.600 --> 01:46:36.600]  Do you hear a helicopter above you and can't see it?
[01:46:36.600 --> 01:46:37.600]  All right.
[01:46:37.600 --> 01:46:38.600]  Thank you for calling in, Michael.
[01:46:38.600 --> 01:46:39.600]  All righty.
[01:46:39.600 --> 01:46:40.600]  Have a good one.
[01:46:40.600 --> 01:46:41.600]  All right.
[01:46:41.600 --> 01:46:42.600]  We're going to go now.
[01:46:42.600 --> 01:46:43.600]  Bill in Wisconsin.
[01:46:43.600 --> 01:46:44.600]  Bill, thanks for calling in.
[01:46:44.600 --> 01:46:45.600]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:46:45.600 --> 01:46:46.600]  Okay.
[01:46:46.600 --> 01:46:50.600]  First of all, I'd like to thank you for having Katherine Albrook on.
[01:46:50.600 --> 01:46:52.600]  She's been a favorite of mine for years.
[01:46:52.600 --> 01:46:53.600]  Yeah.
[01:46:53.600 --> 01:46:58.600]  And when you were talking there, well, I should say –
[01:46:58.600 --> 01:46:59.600]  Wait.
[01:46:59.600 --> 01:47:00.600]  Hold on a second, Bill.
[01:47:00.600 --> 01:47:01.600]  Yes?
[01:47:01.600 --> 01:47:02.600]  Can I ask a favor?
[01:47:02.600 --> 01:47:03.600]  Sure.
[01:47:03.600 --> 01:47:07.600]  We got Mehta from Texas and she calls in on a satellite line.
[01:47:07.600 --> 01:47:08.600]  Okay.
[01:47:08.600 --> 01:47:11.600]  It's about two bucks a minute or so and she keeps breaking off.
[01:47:11.600 --> 01:47:12.600]  Oh, yeah.
[01:47:12.600 --> 01:47:13.600]  I know where you're going.
[01:47:13.600 --> 01:47:14.600]  I've heard Mehta.
[01:47:14.600 --> 01:47:15.600]  Go right ahead.
[01:47:15.600 --> 01:47:16.600]  Okay.
[01:47:16.600 --> 01:47:17.600]  Sorry, Bill.
[01:47:17.600 --> 01:47:18.600]  Yeah.
[01:47:18.600 --> 01:47:19.600]  Okay.
[01:47:19.600 --> 01:47:20.600]  Let's hold on.
[01:47:20.600 --> 01:47:21.600]  Okay.
[01:47:21.600 --> 01:47:22.600]  We only have 10 more minutes left of the show, so let's try to be brief with the callers,
[01:47:22.600 --> 01:47:23.600]  try to be respectful of each other.
[01:47:23.600 --> 01:47:24.600]  We have Mehta, Travis, and Bill.
[01:47:24.600 --> 01:47:25.600]  Mehta, what's on your mind?
[01:47:25.600 --> 01:47:26.600]  This is Pat.
[01:47:26.600 --> 01:47:27.600]  Hey, Pat.
[01:47:27.600 --> 01:47:28.600]  This is Antonio.
[01:47:28.600 --> 01:47:29.600]  Yeah.
[01:47:29.600 --> 01:47:30.600]  Mehta's in San Antonio this weekend.
[01:47:30.600 --> 01:47:36.600]  I'm still out here in West Texas and I'm still alive.
[01:47:36.600 --> 01:47:38.600]  That's good.
[01:47:38.600 --> 01:47:41.600]  I got your letters today.
[01:47:41.600 --> 01:47:42.600]  Good.
[01:47:42.600 --> 01:47:47.600]  I was going to call down there Wednesday, but I was sort of indisposed.
[01:47:47.600 --> 01:47:48.600]  Yes, I heard.
[01:47:48.600 --> 01:47:53.600]  I was listening the other night.
[01:47:53.600 --> 01:47:58.600]  I can appreciate where you were at, believe me.
[01:47:58.600 --> 01:48:04.600]  Every time I go into town now, I'm getting followed by either the chief deputy or by the sheriff himself.
[01:48:04.600 --> 01:48:08.600]  And the border patrol are all waving at me.
[01:48:08.600 --> 01:48:12.600]  So I don't know if this is a good sign or a bad sign.
[01:48:12.600 --> 01:48:13.600]  I'm not sure yet.
[01:48:13.600 --> 01:48:18.600]  Well, Monday, I got your letter and I read it.
[01:48:18.600 --> 01:48:19.600]  Yeah.
[01:48:19.600 --> 01:48:21.600]  Monday, I'm going to be all over this guy.
[01:48:21.600 --> 01:48:22.600]  All right.
[01:48:22.600 --> 01:48:31.600]  Well, what I wanted to ask, do you want us to go ahead and send out a full package to
[01:48:31.600 --> 01:48:35.600]  the DA in Del Rio?
[01:48:35.600 --> 01:48:42.600]  Because I've got 12 packets here that I've prepared all notarized and everything ready to go to the grand jury.
[01:48:42.600 --> 01:48:48.600]  I would not send one to the prosecutor unless it was just a courtesy copy.
[01:48:48.600 --> 01:48:52.600]  Is he named in any of the allegations?
[01:48:52.600 --> 01:48:55.600]  Not in this first set, no.
[01:48:55.600 --> 01:48:58.600]  Do you have any allegations against him?
[01:48:58.600 --> 01:48:59.600]  Yes.
[01:48:59.600 --> 01:49:07.600]  Then include with it a motion to appoint an attorney pro tem.
[01:49:07.600 --> 01:49:08.600]  Oh, did I?
[01:49:08.600 --> 01:49:10.600]  I need to send you some documents.
[01:49:10.600 --> 01:49:11.600]  Yeah.
[01:49:11.600 --> 01:49:26.600]  And I'll send you my request for a, I forgot, a examining court.
[01:49:26.600 --> 01:49:28.600]  What is it now?
[01:49:28.600 --> 01:49:29.600]  I'll think of it in a second.
[01:49:29.600 --> 01:49:38.600]  But it's under Chapter 52, I believe, Code of Criminal Procedure for it.
[01:49:38.600 --> 01:49:41.600]  It asks for an investigation into certain things.
[01:49:41.600 --> 01:49:43.600]  It's real specific.
[01:49:43.600 --> 01:49:44.600]  Sure.
[01:49:44.600 --> 01:49:45.600]  And examining court.
[01:49:45.600 --> 01:49:47.600]  No, it's not examining court.
[01:49:47.600 --> 01:49:48.600]  I'll think of it in a second.
[01:49:48.600 --> 01:49:49.600]  All right.
[01:49:49.600 --> 01:49:50.600]  That's fine.
[01:49:50.600 --> 01:49:52.600]  Just put it in the email and we'll take care of it.
[01:49:52.600 --> 01:49:56.600]  One of the things that I filed with the...
[01:49:56.600 --> 01:49:57.600]  Oh, court of inquiry.
[01:49:57.600 --> 01:49:58.600]  Court of inquiry.
[01:49:58.600 --> 01:50:00.600]  Yeah, court of inquiry.
[01:50:00.600 --> 01:50:10.600]  I had already gone in and requested a bunch of information on who were the grand jury commissioners,
[01:50:10.600 --> 01:50:20.600]  who appointed the commissioners, and a bunch of other things along those lines because of the jury tampering possibilities.
[01:50:20.600 --> 01:50:28.600]  And when I gave that to the county clerk, her eyes crossed and looked at me and kind of stuttered a little bit.
[01:50:28.600 --> 01:50:46.600]  But we are getting back in writing that the complaint that I filed with the magistrate has never been given or afforded through the court clerk as is required.
[01:50:46.600 --> 01:50:50.600]  So now... Oh, wonderful.
[01:50:50.600 --> 01:50:54.600]  Now we file against the judge for violating a ministerial duty.
[01:50:54.600 --> 01:50:57.600]  Well, that will be the second one.
[01:50:57.600 --> 01:50:58.600]  Yeah.
[01:50:58.600 --> 01:51:02.600]  He keeps off the whole thing in the middle of the presentation of the complaint.
[01:51:02.600 --> 01:51:09.600]  In fact, a copy of it to the DA.
[01:51:09.600 --> 01:51:18.600]  You need to get the DA a verified copy of the complaint.
[01:51:18.600 --> 01:51:21.600]  That puts him on a legal dive.
[01:51:21.600 --> 01:51:22.600]  All right.
[01:51:22.600 --> 01:51:26.600]  I'll send that out on Monday then by restricted delivery.
[01:51:26.600 --> 01:51:27.600]  Good.
[01:51:27.600 --> 01:51:32.600]  And don't tell him about Article 203 Code of Criminal Procedure.
[01:51:32.600 --> 01:51:37.600]  Better to hit him over the head with it when we go to the grand jury with it.
[01:51:37.600 --> 01:51:39.600]  I'll send this out.
[01:51:39.600 --> 01:51:40.600]  Okay.
[01:51:39.600 --> 01:51:41.600]  And we only have about seven minutes left.
[01:51:41.600 --> 01:51:44.600]  I wanted to make sure that we were able to talk to Bill and Travis.
[01:51:44.600 --> 01:51:47.600]  I will email you a bunch of documents.
[01:51:47.600 --> 01:51:50.600]  Yeah.
[01:51:50.600 --> 01:51:56.600]  It was one other thing that I can't think of it as present.
[01:51:56.600 --> 01:51:57.600]  Okay.
[01:51:56.600 --> 01:51:57.600]  Yeah.
[01:51:57.600 --> 01:51:59.600]  You can call back in on Monday, Travis.
[01:51:59.600 --> 01:52:00.600]  Send me an email.
[01:52:00.600 --> 01:52:01.600]  Meta.
[01:52:01.600 --> 01:52:02.600]  I'm sorry, Pat.
[01:52:02.600 --> 01:52:04.600]  I'm looking at the call screen here.
[01:52:04.600 --> 01:52:05.600]  Okay.
[01:52:04.600 --> 01:52:05.600]  Thank you.
[01:52:05.600 --> 01:52:07.600]  Okay, bye-bye.
[01:52:07.600 --> 01:52:08.600]  All right.
[01:52:08.600 --> 01:52:10.600]  We are going to go back to Bill now.
[01:52:10.600 --> 01:52:13.600]  Okay, Bill, go ahead.
[01:52:13.600 --> 01:52:14.600]  Oh, okay.
[01:52:14.600 --> 01:52:19.600]  I was just saying also I wanted to, I've been using IX Quick for, I don't know,
[01:52:19.600 --> 01:52:20.600]  a couple of months now.
[01:52:20.600 --> 01:52:25.600]  I think it's a great search engine and I don't have any particular problems with it.
[01:52:25.600 --> 01:52:26.600]  Absolutely.
[01:52:26.600 --> 01:52:27.600]  It's great.
[01:52:27.600 --> 01:52:29.600]  I would say that's a good issue.
[01:52:29.600 --> 01:52:33.600]  You got into talking about the email thing.
[01:52:33.600 --> 01:52:38.600]  One of the things I wanted to ask you, there's a thing called digital signatures
[01:52:38.600 --> 01:52:40.600]  and then you can send emails encrypted.
[01:52:40.600 --> 01:52:43.600]  Is this really what it's cracked up to be?
[01:52:43.600 --> 01:52:45.600]  I mean, are you getting security and privacy using that?
[01:52:45.600 --> 01:52:47.600]  Do you know anything about that?
[01:52:47.600 --> 01:52:49.600]  Yeah, I can answer that in one word.
[01:52:49.600 --> 01:52:50.600]  Okay.
[01:52:50.600 --> 01:52:51.600]  No.
[01:52:51.600 --> 01:52:52.600]  No email.
[01:52:52.600 --> 01:52:55.600]  No email is really going to be that.
[01:52:55.600 --> 01:52:59.600]  I mean, like I said, there's hush mail that is encrypted.
[01:52:59.600 --> 01:53:03.600]  I think it's about the best thing going.
[01:53:03.600 --> 01:53:08.600]  I do have a guy from Las Vegas who has developed an encryption method
[01:53:08.600 --> 01:53:11.600]  that can't be broke.
[01:53:11.600 --> 01:53:17.600]  The government is trying to buy it from him and he's not selling it to them,
[01:53:17.600 --> 01:53:22.600]  but he's looking at licensing it to them to keep them from swallowing him.
[01:53:22.600 --> 01:53:26.600]  But this one apparently can't be broken.
[01:53:26.600 --> 01:53:29.600]  It's just not out yet.
[01:53:29.600 --> 01:53:36.600]  Up until this point, I have a friend who we have every reason to believe is a
[01:53:36.600 --> 01:53:43.600]  spook who tells me that in the 90s there was a shortage of processors.
[01:53:43.600 --> 01:53:47.600]  The reason being is the government bought a million, put them all together in
[01:53:47.600 --> 01:53:53.600]  one building for the purpose of breaking code in her encryption.
[01:53:53.600 --> 01:53:58.600]  She says they've got it down to milliseconds.
[01:53:58.600 --> 01:54:00.600]  They can break most anything.
[01:54:00.600 --> 01:54:06.600]  But apparently this new one, the guy in Vegas had, they couldn't break,
[01:54:06.600 --> 01:54:09.600]  and he's been about 15 years putting it together.
[01:54:09.600 --> 01:54:13.600]  So we may have one on the market before too long they can't break,
[01:54:13.600 --> 01:54:16.600]  or at least for the time being.
[01:54:16.600 --> 01:54:20.600]  If the government really wants to break the encryption, they will.
[01:54:20.600 --> 01:54:24.600]  But the thing is, it's like locks on a door.
[01:54:24.600 --> 01:54:25.600]  Don't really keep burglars out.
[01:54:25.600 --> 01:54:28.600]  They keep an honest man honest.
[01:54:28.600 --> 01:54:35.600]  And the thing is you just don't want to leave yourself vulnerable.
[01:54:35.600 --> 01:54:42.600]  Like I was saying on the air earlier, I use server-based email just because I
[01:54:42.600 --> 01:54:48.600]  don't want my email stored on somebody else's server like Hotmail or whatever.
[01:54:48.600 --> 01:54:51.600]  I don't want my stuff on somebody else's server.
[01:54:51.600 --> 01:54:53.600]  So I use my own server-based email.
[01:54:53.600 --> 01:54:58.600]  And if I really, really feel like I need to send a sensitive email that I don't
[01:54:58.600 --> 01:55:03.600]  want the government or somebody else to see, I'll use Hushmail but rarely.
[01:55:03.600 --> 01:55:06.600]  I mean, when you're dealing with communications nowadays,
[01:55:06.600 --> 01:55:08.600]  whether you're talking on the phone or email or whatever,
[01:55:08.600 --> 01:55:12.600]  just assume that other people can access it.
[01:55:12.600 --> 01:55:20.600]  And go to extreme lengths if you have to really send something that's private.
[01:55:20.600 --> 01:55:22.600]  But that's about all I know about that.
[01:55:22.600 --> 01:55:25.600]  We have three minutes left, and then we've got to go off the air.
[01:55:25.600 --> 01:55:28.600]  Bill, if you don't have anything else and want to go to Travis.
[01:55:28.600 --> 01:55:29.600]  No, that was it.
[01:55:29.600 --> 01:55:30.600]  I just wanted to get your comments on that.
[01:55:30.600 --> 01:55:31.600]  Okay.
[01:55:31.600 --> 01:55:32.600]  All right.
[01:55:32.600 --> 01:55:33.600]  Thank you.
[01:55:33.600 --> 01:55:35.600]  I always assume they're listening.
[01:55:35.600 --> 01:55:37.600]  I always assume that they're reading the email.
[01:55:37.600 --> 01:55:40.600]  But like I said, Hushmail I think is reasonable.
[01:55:40.600 --> 01:55:42.600]  All right, we're going to go to Travis now.
[01:55:42.600 --> 01:55:43.600]  Travis, thanks for calling in.
[01:55:43.600 --> 01:55:44.600]  What's on your mind?
[01:55:44.600 --> 01:55:48.600]  Well, with so little time, I just wanted to quickly ask about the iXquick.
[01:55:48.600 --> 01:55:49.600]  What do you like about that?
[01:55:49.600 --> 01:55:51.600]  What makes it better than, say, Google?
[01:55:51.600 --> 01:55:57.600]  Oh, did you listen to or earlier on the show, Katherine Albrecht?
[01:55:57.600 --> 01:55:59.600]  Oh, you know, maybe I'll just check back later.
[01:55:59.600 --> 01:56:04.600]  Yeah, if you didn't hear the first two hours, she talked about it at great lengths.
[01:56:04.600 --> 01:56:09.600]  And basically the reasons are the iXquick does not record your IP address.
[01:56:09.600 --> 01:56:14.600]  Google records your IP address and they keep a log of everything that you've searched for.
[01:56:14.600 --> 01:56:21.600]  They actually have maps and they put little dots when you search for certain things so that they can mark it to you.
[01:56:21.600 --> 01:56:25.600]  They report to the government their findings, okay?
[01:56:25.600 --> 01:56:33.600]  And so basically Google records everything that you do and associates it directly with your IP address so they know where you are,
[01:56:33.600 --> 01:56:36.600]  they know who you are, and they report everything that you search for to the government.
[01:56:36.600 --> 01:56:39.600]  That's why Google is the devil, okay?
[01:56:39.600 --> 01:56:41.600]  I thought it was most insightful.
[01:56:41.600 --> 01:56:50.600]  I hadn't thought about it that way, but by the questions you ask Google, they know what's in your mind.
[01:56:50.600 --> 01:56:57.600]  And, you know, I hadn't thought about it that way, but absolutely that's a way to crawl right in my mind and find out what's in there.
[01:56:57.600 --> 01:56:59.600]  Yeah, you do it like she was saying.
[01:56:59.600 --> 01:57:03.600]  You know, if you don't, if you're too lazy to get out the phone book and look up your doctor's phone number,
[01:57:03.600 --> 01:57:10.600]  and you look it up on Google to find his website and get his phone number, well, now they know who your doctor is, okay?
[01:57:10.600 --> 01:57:14.600]  If you do a lot of searching, if you have a diagnosis of a certain medical condition and you're on Google
[01:57:14.600 --> 01:57:20.600]  and you're trying to look up information about that diagnosis, well, now they know what kinds of health problems you have, okay?
[01:57:20.600 --> 01:57:27.600]  They know everything about you by what you search for on Google, on the Internet, and so that's why you got to get away from it.
[01:57:27.600 --> 01:57:35.600]  And as far as real encryption, you can use something called Tor, T-O-R, and look that up on Ixquick.
[01:57:35.600 --> 01:57:46.600]  It's basically proxy server business so that you can do Internet surfing without your IP address being associated with what you're doing and where you're going.
[01:57:46.600 --> 01:57:50.600]  Because even if you do searches on Ixquick where they don't record your IP addresses,
[01:57:50.600 --> 01:58:00.600]  when you start going to those other websites that you searched for, your IP address will be out there and could be possibly logged on those websites,
[01:58:00.600 --> 01:58:02.600]  and the government can tell what you're doing by your Internet traffic.
[01:58:02.600 --> 01:58:09.600]  So if you really have to do sensitive types of searching, you need to use proxy server and not a proxy server service
[01:58:09.600 --> 01:58:11.600]  because then they know what you're doing too.
[01:58:11.600 --> 01:58:15.600]  Use something called Tor, and I don't have time to really explain what it is.
[01:58:15.600 --> 01:58:21.600]  I'm tunneling in encryption and proxy server business, so look that up.
[01:58:21.600 --> 01:58:25.600]  And we are just about out of time.
[01:58:25.600 --> 01:58:32.600]  So, listeners, thank you so much for tuning in to our Friday evening show.
[01:58:32.600 --> 01:58:37.600]  This is The Rule of Law, Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens.
[01:58:37.600 --> 01:58:38.600]  Thank you, Travis.
[01:58:38.600 --> 01:58:48.600]  Stay tuned Monday night. We will be back Monday.
[01:59:08.600 --> 01:59:18.600]  Thank you.
[01:59:38.600 --> 01:59:48.600]  Thank you.