[00:00.000 --> 00:10.880]  Former Cuban leader Fidel Castro Thursday demanded the U.S. unconditionally return the
[00:10.880 --> 00:14.600]  U.S. base at Guantanamo to Cuba.
[00:14.600 --> 00:19.880]  Castro also accused Barack Obama of supporting Israel in its genocide of the Palestinian
[00:19.880 --> 00:23.120]  people in the Gaza Strip.
[00:23.120 --> 00:29.360]  The judge in charge of the Guantanamo hearings has ordered an end to the last trial there.
[00:29.360 --> 00:35.580]  Judge Susan Crawford made the decision days after Judge James Paul had refused a request
[00:35.580 --> 00:39.840]  from Barack Obama to suspend all hearings.
[00:39.840 --> 00:45.000]  The British government has spent $600 million on a biometric national identity card, but
[00:45.000 --> 00:50.480]  not a single police station, border entry point or job center has a reader capable of
[00:50.480 --> 00:58.840]  extracting information from the card's chip.
[00:58.840 --> 01:04.240]  In an effort to win bipartisan support for the economic stimulus package now before the
[01:04.240 --> 01:09.480]  Senate, Barack Obama is bending over backwards to compromise with conservatives.
[01:09.480 --> 01:15.680]  The result is family planning services, sexually transmitted disease prevention and other provisions
[01:15.680 --> 01:20.880]  dealing with women, children and education are being cut from the legislation.
[01:20.880 --> 01:27.460]  This week, progressive blogs released a list of items that centrist senators, Susan Collins
[01:27.460 --> 01:32.560]  and Ben Nelson have proposed cutting from the economic recovery package.
[01:32.560 --> 01:38.120]  Some of the cuts would include money for crime victims, Pell grants and Head Start.
[01:38.120 --> 01:43.880]  Other cuts are in health care, education and aid to the states.
[01:43.880 --> 01:49.320]  Critics say like Collins, Senator Nelson had no problem voting to give Wall Street $700
[01:49.320 --> 01:58.880]  billion in taxpayer dollars last year with no oversight.
[01:58.880 --> 02:03.400]  Some congressional observers are suggesting there is a link between the Bush White House
[02:03.400 --> 02:06.080]  and the Bernie Madoff Ponzi scheme.
[02:06.080 --> 02:11.480]  The development came Thursday after the Security and Exchange Commission's general counsel
[02:11.480 --> 02:18.280]  cited executive privilege as the reason he and the SEC's enforcement branch were refusing
[02:18.280 --> 02:20.800]  to answer congressional inquiries.
[02:20.800 --> 02:25.720]  The declaration of executive privilege was made at a financial services committee hearing.
[02:25.720 --> 02:31.120]  The hearing was looking into the failure of the SEC to prevent the Madoff scandal.
[02:31.120 --> 02:37.880]  Andy Vollmer, a large donut of John McCain's presidential campaign, cited executive privilege
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[02:42.800 --> 02:48.720]  Just note, the Bush holdovers of the SEC are using executive powers to prevent democratic
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[05:17.480 --> 05:21.400]  but I did mix a song to play it for you.
[05:21.400 --> 05:26.400]  So, Randy in Austin, Neighbor Neighbor.
[05:26.500 --> 05:28.900]  Okay, we are gonna go now.
[05:28.900 --> 05:31.140]  We've got a full board of callers.
[05:31.140 --> 05:32.900]  It looks like we got Dan Reel,
[05:32.900 --> 05:35.260]  we got Russell, Jim, Mike, Jeff.
[05:35.260 --> 05:37.060]  We got a whole bunch of people.
[05:37.060 --> 05:42.060]  All right, we are gonna bring up Russell in Texas.
[05:43.140 --> 05:45.340]  Hey Russell, what's on your mind?
[05:45.340 --> 05:47.600]  What's up? Hey, I was curious,
[05:47.600 --> 05:51.020]  I hadn't heard about the clerk that committed suicide.
[05:51.020 --> 05:53.020]  Wait a minute, I can't, we can't hear you, Russell.
[05:53.020 --> 05:54.540]  Can you speak up?
[05:54.540 --> 05:57.560]  I was wondering about the clerk that committed suicide.
[05:58.420 --> 05:59.740]  Yes, Fifth Circuit.
[06:00.860 --> 06:01.820]  That today or something?
[06:01.820 --> 06:03.460]  No, no, that was two years ago.
[06:03.460 --> 06:05.000]  Yeah, that was actually two years ago.
[06:05.000 --> 06:06.060]  I just found out about it.
[06:06.060 --> 06:08.420]  Yeah, he wasn't like the,
[06:08.420 --> 06:10.220]  he wasn't the clerk of the court.
[06:10.220 --> 06:12.020]  He was a judge's clerk.
[06:13.240 --> 06:14.080]  Okay.
[06:14.080 --> 06:16.020]  And he's one of the lawyers they hire
[06:16.020 --> 06:19.580]  to do all of their work for them.
[06:20.740 --> 06:23.080]  And that was why he was so upset
[06:23.080 --> 06:27.740]  because he's the one that was reading these motions
[06:27.740 --> 06:31.540]  and documents and the judge was just ignoring them all
[06:31.540 --> 06:32.360]  out of hand.
[06:32.360 --> 06:35.200]  And that's what he was so concerned about.
[06:36.300 --> 06:40.120]  Speaking of, you asked me about that Ohio conference
[06:40.120 --> 06:42.220]  where they had that conference.
[06:42.220 --> 06:43.060]  Yes.
[06:43.060 --> 06:46.300]  The judges, how to, you know, do away with the pro se.
[06:46.300 --> 06:47.140]  Yes.
[06:47.140 --> 06:49.020]  I found it on my hard drive.
[06:49.020 --> 06:50.080]  Oh, wonderful.
[06:50.080 --> 06:51.500]  I need a copy.
[06:51.500 --> 06:52.340]  Yes.
[06:52.340 --> 06:53.160]  400 megabytes.
[06:53.160 --> 06:54.780]  So I'll put it on a CD
[06:54.780 --> 06:56.340]  and that way maybe one of these nights
[06:56.340 --> 06:58.140]  you'll play it on the air.
[06:58.140 --> 07:03.140]  But it's like a five hour conference
[07:03.140 --> 07:05.860]  but they tell, they're training all the judges
[07:05.860 --> 07:08.140]  and all the clerks and all that stuff, how to do it.
[07:08.140 --> 07:09.260]  That is a good idea.
[07:09.260 --> 07:11.060]  Training them to do what, Russell?
[07:11.060 --> 07:12.660]  To do away with the pro se's.
[07:12.660 --> 07:13.500]  How to get.
[07:13.500 --> 07:16.340]  Wait, what kind of class was this?
[07:16.340 --> 07:17.180]  What kind of training?
[07:17.180 --> 07:20.660]  Something put on by the State Justice Institute
[07:20.660 --> 07:24.380]  or something, big old conference they had in Ohio
[07:24.380 --> 07:26.340]  a couple of years ago.
[07:26.340 --> 07:30.260]  And the whole topic was how to circumvent
[07:30.260 --> 07:32.540]  the pro se's in court.
[07:32.540 --> 07:37.540]  Is this appropriated through the legislature?
[07:38.780 --> 07:42.300]  The legislature funded this state court institute
[07:42.300 --> 07:44.860]  or whatever the hell it was that put on this conference.
[07:44.860 --> 07:49.860]  So taxpayer funds appropriated through state legislature
[07:52.140 --> 07:54.540]  to fund a training.
[07:54.540 --> 07:56.100]  I think it was actually Congress.
[07:56.100 --> 07:57.060]  Congress, yeah.
[07:57.060 --> 08:01.220]  To fund a training to teach judges
[08:01.220 --> 08:05.820]  how to basically screw over pro se litigants.
[08:05.820 --> 08:08.940]  Well they funded the state institute for all their training
[08:08.940 --> 08:10.580]  but then the state institute turned around
[08:10.580 --> 08:13.020]  and put one of the training things that they did
[08:13.020 --> 08:15.220]  was to train all these people
[08:15.220 --> 08:17.700]  how to deal with the pro se's in court.
[08:17.700 --> 08:18.540]  Incredible.
[08:18.540 --> 08:20.700]  Good, then if you get that to me,
[08:20.700 --> 08:23.420]  I will load it up on my website.
[08:23.420 --> 08:26.900]  Yeah, I'll run it on the stream.
[08:28.060 --> 08:30.220]  Deborah, you said earlier that the attorney
[08:30.220 --> 08:31.220]  doesn't have a license.
[08:31.220 --> 08:32.700]  They most certainly do.
[08:32.700 --> 08:35.020]  But they're issued by the Texas Supreme Court.
[08:36.540 --> 08:40.300]  Okay, in this state there actually is a license?
[08:40.300 --> 08:41.660]  Yes ma'am, there's a license.
[08:41.660 --> 08:45.020]  I mean my heart specialist, believe it or not,
[08:45.020 --> 08:48.260]  he is a dentist and he's a licensed attorney
[08:48.260 --> 08:53.260]  in Texas, Arkansas, and Louisiana.
[08:53.620 --> 08:58.020]  And all three of his hosts are hanging up in big plaques
[08:58.020 --> 09:02.100]  in his waiting room where you can read them.
[09:02.100 --> 09:04.820]  So is this a license issued by the state
[09:04.820 --> 09:06.660]  because it was my understanding that
[09:06.660 --> 09:08.740]  there wasn't such a thing that it was just a,
[09:08.740 --> 09:10.660]  these people just have bar cards
[09:10.660 --> 09:13.740]  and that Congress declares that they have
[09:13.740 --> 09:15.500]  to have a bar card in order to practice.
[09:15.500 --> 09:19.660]  This is a license issued by the Supreme Court.
[09:19.660 --> 09:21.380]  After they complete their deal,
[09:21.380 --> 09:23.380]  they get their bar card and everything else,
[09:23.380 --> 09:25.780]  they subscribe to this oath and it's given
[09:25.780 --> 09:28.020]  by the Supreme Court of every state
[09:28.020 --> 09:30.740]  or whatever organization takes care of it.
[09:30.740 --> 09:32.580]  Is this just Texas?
[09:32.580 --> 09:33.860]  Yes.
[09:33.860 --> 09:37.940]  So you were right in the jurors dictionary thing.
[09:37.940 --> 09:40.580]  Okay, all right, all right, because I've had people,
[09:40.580 --> 09:41.820]  I've had other lawyers tell me
[09:41.820 --> 09:44.100]  that there wasn't such a thing, but okay, good.
[09:44.100 --> 09:48.140]  Well I've seen five of them now by three different lawyers.
[09:48.140 --> 09:50.740]  So I mean, you know, and I was under the impression
[09:50.740 --> 09:52.300]  just like you, there is no such thing
[09:52.300 --> 09:54.580]  as a license for a lawyer.
[09:54.580 --> 09:55.900]  But I mean it's not like, you know,
[09:55.900 --> 09:57.740]  me and you go down and get a driver's license
[09:57.740 --> 09:58.580]  or something like that.
[09:58.580 --> 09:59.420]  Right, right.
[09:59.420 --> 10:02.980]  You have to, in other words, you have to set the standards
[10:02.980 --> 10:04.700]  and meet the standards of the.
[10:04.700 --> 10:06.500]  Yeah, it's a professional license,
[10:06.500 --> 10:09.740]  like a doctor or an engineer.
[10:09.740 --> 10:10.780]  Right.
[10:10.780 --> 10:11.900]  Or plumber.
[10:11.900 --> 10:14.540]  Speaking of, you mentioned physicians well ago.
[10:15.380 --> 10:17.540]  I had a little beef with a physician one time
[10:17.540 --> 10:20.980]  and I treated it just like an attorney with a bar card.
[10:20.980 --> 10:24.980]  I filed a complaint with the state physicians board
[10:24.980 --> 10:27.340]  or whatever and that thing acted just exactly
[10:27.340 --> 10:30.780]  like it was a lawyer with a grievance
[10:30.780 --> 10:34.500]  because they turn around and they send the thing
[10:34.500 --> 10:36.660]  to the doctor and the doctor is expected
[10:36.660 --> 10:40.540]  to basically get with the person that's having the problem
[10:40.540 --> 10:42.380]  and they basically adjudicate it
[10:42.380 --> 10:44.540]  or else the board gets involved.
[10:44.540 --> 10:45.380]  Oh yeah.
[10:45.380 --> 10:49.460]  I mean that process works almost exactly like a lawyer
[10:49.460 --> 10:51.740]  when you're filing a bar grievance
[10:51.740 --> 10:53.460]  and stuff against the lawyer.
[10:53.460 --> 10:54.300]  Oh yeah.
[10:54.300 --> 10:55.660]  I was pretty impressed with that.
[10:55.660 --> 10:58.180]  Except with doctors, they actually adjudicate it
[10:58.180 --> 10:59.900]  and don't throw it in the trash.
[10:59.900 --> 11:01.100]  Right.
[11:01.100 --> 11:04.660]  The doctors, I mean my doctor took it real seriously.
[11:04.660 --> 11:07.980]  I mean all this was over is my doctor took me off work
[11:07.980 --> 11:10.580]  for almost eight months and when it come time
[11:10.580 --> 11:14.300]  for me to fill out a disability paperwork stuff,
[11:14.300 --> 11:16.300]  he refused to fill it out saying
[11:16.300 --> 11:18.820]  I had no reason to be off work and I'm going,
[11:18.820 --> 11:20.540]  then why in the hell did you take me off work
[11:20.540 --> 11:22.380]  for eight months then?
[11:22.380 --> 11:23.900]  You're the one who signed the paperwork
[11:23.900 --> 11:26.140]  and did all that stuff and took me off work
[11:26.140 --> 11:29.380]  and then you're refusing to fill out the insurance paperwork.
[11:29.380 --> 11:33.140]  So when he refused, that's when I filed a grievance
[11:33.140 --> 11:35.980]  against him with the physician's deal.
[11:35.980 --> 11:36.820]  Oh yeah.
[11:36.820 --> 11:39.780]  And believe me, they take it very seriously
[11:39.780 --> 11:43.540]  because if the medical board pulls their license,
[11:43.540 --> 11:47.060]  they are really, really in a hard way
[11:47.060 --> 11:50.620]  because these people that become doctors,
[11:50.620 --> 11:55.620]  they go into debt to the tune of $100,000 plus,
[11:56.580 --> 11:58.260]  all right, in order to make it through school
[11:58.260 --> 12:00.540]  and residency and internship and everything
[12:00.540 --> 12:02.740]  and student loans like that,
[12:02.740 --> 12:05.380]  you can't get out of it with bankruptcy.
[12:05.380 --> 12:08.660]  They will garnish your wages and until the day you die,
[12:08.660 --> 12:11.820]  they will get it back one way or the other
[12:11.820 --> 12:14.940]  and if these doctor's licenses get pulled,
[12:14.940 --> 12:17.980]  they are really, really, really screwed
[12:17.980 --> 12:21.140]  because they can never own anything again.
[12:21.140 --> 12:25.420]  You know, they have to pay it all back.
[12:25.420 --> 12:30.380]  You know, the student loan companies file liens
[12:30.380 --> 12:34.180]  on bank accounts, cars, anything they ever own.
[12:34.180 --> 12:38.340]  So they do not want to mess with the medical board at all.
[12:38.340 --> 12:41.780]  They are totally vulnerable to the medical board,
[12:41.780 --> 12:45.860]  completely, just like the lawyers with the bar.
[12:45.860 --> 12:48.340]  And Randy, you've been talking about assistance to counsel.
[12:48.340 --> 12:50.460]  I mean, that's virtually almost impossible
[12:51.420 --> 12:53.820]  to get assistance to counsel, just like me.
[12:53.820 --> 12:57.780]  I have a standby counsel, but I'm still pro se.
[12:57.780 --> 13:01.540]  Yeah, well, that's what my motion is about,
[13:01.540 --> 13:05.980]  where you maintain yourself as lead counsel
[13:05.980 --> 13:10.980]  and you want an attorney as the standby counsel.
[13:14.140 --> 13:14.980]  He doesn't-
[13:14.980 --> 13:18.700]  It's still very wishy-washy between the two
[13:18.700 --> 13:21.820]  because it's not treated that way.
[13:21.820 --> 13:24.700]  I mean, my standby counsel there is to ask,
[13:24.700 --> 13:26.820]  well, in other words, if I have a legal question,
[13:26.820 --> 13:30.180]  I'm supposed to ask my standby counsel.
[13:30.180 --> 13:32.300]  Other than that, we don't communicate,
[13:32.300 --> 13:34.220]  we don't do nothing else or anything.
[13:34.220 --> 13:37.060]  And this is something that the court insisted on,
[13:37.060 --> 13:39.900]  but yet once they turn around and make judgment against me,
[13:39.900 --> 13:42.100]  they wanted me to pay the asshole.
[13:42.100 --> 13:44.100]  And I thought, there ain't no way in hell.
[13:45.300 --> 13:48.860]  So, I mean, the court, the judge even insisted,
[13:48.860 --> 13:50.340]  the court wants it that way.
[13:50.340 --> 13:52.900]  The court will appoint this man the whole nine yards.
[13:52.900 --> 13:57.100]  I had no control over it whatsoever.
[13:57.100 --> 13:58.740]  Oh, you didn't ask for him?
[13:58.740 --> 13:59.580]  No.
[13:59.580 --> 14:00.400]  Oh.
[14:00.400 --> 14:02.020]  No, I told him I didn't want him.
[14:02.020 --> 14:04.300]  But yet, as soon as they turn around and give me judgment
[14:04.300 --> 14:06.940]  back in November of 2007,
[14:06.940 --> 14:09.300]  then they turn around and want me to pay him 450 bucks
[14:09.300 --> 14:10.780]  if I'm going like hell I am.
[14:13.460 --> 14:15.940]  And of course, that's one of my bond stipulations
[14:15.940 --> 14:16.760]  and everything else,
[14:16.760 --> 14:19.580]  but I already found out from my bankruptcy attorney and stuff
[14:19.580 --> 14:21.540]  that that part of the debt could be wiped out
[14:21.540 --> 14:23.380]  because that's not a judicial deal.
[14:23.380 --> 14:24.220]  Yeah.
[14:24.220 --> 14:27.060]  That's not, that's something that judge cannot order
[14:27.060 --> 14:29.260]  because that goes through his ministerial and all that.
[14:29.260 --> 14:30.580]  He can order all the other stuff,
[14:30.580 --> 14:32.620]  but he can't order me to pay an attorney
[14:32.620 --> 14:35.420]  that the court turned around and demanded to be there
[14:35.420 --> 14:37.500]  and that they put there.
[14:37.500 --> 14:38.460]  So.
[14:38.460 --> 14:39.300]  Okay.
[14:39.300 --> 14:40.660]  So, I mean, that sent me off worse.
[14:40.660 --> 14:41.500]  Okay.
[14:43.060 --> 14:43.900]  Okay.
[14:43.900 --> 14:45.140]  Thanks for calling in.
[14:45.140 --> 14:46.380]  Bye.
[14:46.380 --> 14:47.220]  Okay.
[14:47.220 --> 14:48.860]  All right, we are going to go now.
[14:48.860 --> 14:49.700]  Okay.
[14:49.700 --> 14:51.060]  I see you, Dan.
[14:51.060 --> 14:51.900]  Real.
[14:51.900 --> 14:53.220]  Dan Connecticut.
[14:53.220 --> 14:54.340]  Just hold on one second
[14:54.340 --> 14:55.740]  because we've got a lot of callers
[14:55.740 --> 14:57.020]  that have been waiting for a long time.
[14:57.020 --> 15:00.200]  We've got Jeff from Michigan.
[15:01.300 --> 15:02.140]  Hey, Jeff.
[15:02.140 --> 15:02.960]  Thanks for calling in.
[15:02.960 --> 15:04.340]  What's on your mind tonight?
[15:04.340 --> 15:05.180]  Hey, Deborah.
[15:05.180 --> 15:06.140]  Randy, how are you doing tonight?
[15:06.140 --> 15:06.980]  Good.
[15:08.140 --> 15:09.460]  I got a question.
[15:09.460 --> 15:14.420]  I put a video of me getting pulled over last summer
[15:14.420 --> 15:16.220]  when I asked the police officer,
[15:16.220 --> 15:17.820]  is this a criminal investigation?
[15:17.820 --> 15:19.740]  Why are you stopping me?
[15:19.740 --> 15:21.300]  And somebody posted something today
[15:21.300 --> 15:22.900]  and I wanted to run it by you.
[15:25.420 --> 15:28.580]  Explain how I'm understanding this whole issue
[15:28.580 --> 15:32.740]  of identity in the court system.
[15:32.740 --> 15:35.540]  The question he sent, the comment he sent back,
[15:35.540 --> 15:38.460]  is okay, speeding, running a stop sign and so on.
[15:38.460 --> 15:40.480]  None of these are criminal offenses.
[15:40.480 --> 15:41.600]  They are civil.
[15:41.600 --> 15:44.320]  That is why it's called a civil infraction.
[15:44.320 --> 15:47.300]  When you're pulled over, you must provide your license.
[15:47.300 --> 15:50.860]  When I provide, you must minimum show your license.
[15:50.860 --> 15:52.900]  Failing to do so is a criminal offense
[15:52.900 --> 15:54.820]  and you can be arrested for it.
[15:54.820 --> 15:58.940]  For the record, it doesn't have to be a criminal stop
[15:58.940 --> 16:00.660]  before you have to show ID.
[16:00.660 --> 16:03.540]  Most traffic offenses aren't criminal, they're civil.
[16:03.540 --> 16:05.580]  What state are you in?
[16:05.580 --> 16:06.420]  Michigan.
[16:06.420 --> 16:07.980]  Oh, okay.
[16:07.980 --> 16:10.660]  Because in Texas, the statute on identification
[16:11.640 --> 16:13.940]  says that you must identify,
[16:13.940 --> 16:18.940]  it's a crime not to identify yourself after arrest.
[16:19.580 --> 16:23.620]  So when you're stopped for a infraction,
[16:23.620 --> 16:26.420]  you are, if you are under arrest,
[16:26.420 --> 16:28.280]  then you have to identify yourself.
[16:28.280 --> 16:30.580]  But if you're not under arrest, you don't have to.
[16:31.540 --> 16:33.900]  I'm not sure how it reads in Michigan.
[16:33.900 --> 16:34.820]  Okay, listen.
[16:34.820 --> 16:36.940]  Jeff, hang on the line, please.
[16:38.060 --> 16:41.380]  We're going to break and we will pick this up
[16:41.380 --> 16:43.060]  on the other side.
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[18:04.140 --> 18:09.820]  I won't let you down
[18:09.820 --> 18:17.660]  I won't let you down
[18:17.660 --> 18:29.380]  Yeah.
[18:29.380 --> 18:44.380]  I won't, I won't, I won't let you pull the wool over my eyes
[18:44.380 --> 18:51.380]  I seriously must refuse your news, also nothing like
[18:51.380 --> 18:59.380]  It seems you like to spare, but please take some words to the wise
[18:59.380 --> 19:26.380]  Please stop trying to pull the wool over my eyes
[19:26.380 --> 19:37.380]  Mmm...
[19:37.380 --> 19:44.380]  An orange is an orange and will never be an apple
[19:44.380 --> 19:52.380]  These images are no good, it is no tough concept to grapple
[19:52.380 --> 20:00.380]  It's just too much to bear, I won't wear your evil shackles
[20:00.380 --> 20:22.380]  A bluebird is a bluebird and will never be a crackle
[20:22.380 --> 20:30.380]  Please stop this lie
[20:30.380 --> 20:59.380]  Whoa...
[21:00.380 --> 21:23.380]  Well, I was hit with a spark of clarity when you were talking about the Bar Association and the private club to practice law in
[21:23.380 --> 21:34.380]  Because the, how I understand it, the Bar Association stands for British Accreditation Registry
[21:34.380 --> 21:43.380]  And the law that they're practicing, the courts that we're in, the laws that we're dealing with is British Maritime Admiralty Court
[21:43.380 --> 21:45.380]  No, it's not
[21:45.380 --> 21:46.380]  It's not
[21:46.380 --> 21:59.380]  No, that's specious logic, just because they call it the Bar doesn't mean that they use British Maritime Law
[21:59.380 --> 22:06.380]  Yes, but the flag with the gold fringe indicates British Maritime Admiralty Law
[22:06.380 --> 22:21.380]  There is nothing in the court, there is nothing requiring that a flag of any kind be in the court, there's nothing giving the flag in the courtroom any relevance of any kind, period
[22:21.380 --> 22:25.380]  These guys have made this argument, it's a nonsense argument
[22:25.380 --> 22:32.380]  There are ways to get to maritime law, but we don't get to it that way
[22:32.380 --> 22:41.380]  Maritime law applies where the statutory law in the state doesn't address an issue
[22:41.380 --> 22:47.380]  If maritime law addresses that issue, then you can pull in maritime law
[22:47.380 --> 22:55.380]  But this stuff about the bar and the fringe on the flag is simply not true
[22:55.380 --> 22:58.380]  And I'm not saying that just out of hand
[22:58.380 --> 23:09.380]  I've been, since I've been doing this, trying to get these people to give me something other than because somebody uses a flag that looks this way
[23:09.380 --> 23:16.380]  Every single human on the earth that gets a flag that looks like that is exactly like the first person that had it
[23:16.380 --> 23:21.380]  That's the only connection any of them has ever made
[23:21.380 --> 23:32.380]  They're implying because these guys think that's a pretty flag that they are automatically under maritime law and it's not true
[23:32.380 --> 23:42.380]  Okay, I see your point that it's an assumption that you're automatically under British maritime law because the courts are practicing three different types of law
[23:42.380 --> 23:43.380]  Yes
[23:43.380 --> 23:45.380]  Simultaneously
[23:45.380 --> 23:48.380]  Well, not exactly, there's a hierarchy of law
[23:48.380 --> 23:50.380]  Okay, okay, okay, there's a hierarchy of law
[23:50.380 --> 23:57.380]  So essentially, yes, simultaneously, but you only use the law that applies
[23:57.380 --> 24:08.380]  Okay, I can accept that, but the Bar Association does and did represent those words throughout history
[24:08.380 --> 24:13.380]  And that's what it does mean and lawyers will argue that that's not what it stands for today
[24:13.380 --> 24:21.380]  But I have, there's a whole other part of the argument that I have points to make concerning the original 13th Amendment
[24:21.380 --> 24:29.380]  Titles and Nobility Clause, which was properly ratified in 1819 and is disregarded and ignored
[24:29.380 --> 24:39.380]  Which does not allow anybody who's a member of the Bar Association, who is the British Accreditation Registry
[24:39.380 --> 24:47.380]  Who can put Esquire after their name and it's lifted above common citizens to Esquire just below knighthood
[24:47.380 --> 24:58.380]  Every member of Congress in 1810 was like that and the people got very angry and got rid of them all because they were loyalists to the British
[24:58.380 --> 25:03.380]  And they enacted the Titles and Nobility Clause, the 13th Amendment, and it was properly ratified
[25:03.380 --> 25:05.380]  That's why the War of 1812 happened
[25:05.380 --> 25:06.380]  Okay
[25:06.380 --> 25:07.380]  To destroy those records
[25:07.380 --> 25:10.380]  No, that wasn't why the War of 1812 happened
[25:10.380 --> 25:15.380]  The War of 1812 happened because the British wanted their money
[25:15.380 --> 25:17.380]  The French, we owed the French
[25:17.380 --> 25:19.380]  Not just their money, they wanted us back
[25:19.380 --> 25:24.380]  No, we owed a lot of money to the French, the French sold the debt to the British
[25:24.380 --> 25:28.380]  The British came and went to all the banks to try to collect it and never found any
[25:28.380 --> 25:34.380]  But even so, there are no titles of nobility now
[25:34.380 --> 25:42.380]  Okay, but that flag with the gold fringe mysteriously appeared in the United States courts starting in 1856
[25:42.380 --> 25:44.380]  Okay, so?
[25:44.380 --> 25:48.380]  That's put on the flag by the order of the President
[25:48.380 --> 26:04.380]  Can you find for me one statute, one rule anywhere in United States law that addresses that flag?
[26:04.380 --> 26:07.380]  See, that's the problem
[26:07.380 --> 26:10.380]  If it's not in law, it doesn't exist
[26:10.380 --> 26:19.380]  They're public officials, they do what the law specifically authorizes them to do, and they have to be able to base it on specific law
[26:19.380 --> 26:21.380]  It's not there
[26:21.380 --> 26:30.380]  It does not need to be in the letter of the law if it is a herald in a representation of what the court stands for
[26:30.380 --> 26:34.380]  What is a herald in a representation?
[26:34.380 --> 26:43.380]  A herald is what a commander at the front of an armed force carries the colors of the nation, the flag of the country
[26:43.380 --> 26:46.380]  That is a military draped flag
[26:46.380 --> 26:51.380]  Okay, you're doing a conclusion again
[26:51.380 --> 26:55.380]  That's a conclusion, how did you get there?
[26:55.380 --> 27:00.380]  I'd have to read you my sources
[27:00.380 --> 27:05.380]  The only way I'm going to want to see it is in law
[27:05.380 --> 27:12.380]  Not in someone's opinion about the law, but what does the law say about it?
[27:12.380 --> 27:16.380]  And it's always been my problem with these arguments, and I'm not trying to be difficult
[27:16.380 --> 27:24.380]  I just don't want us to get lost in some kind of never-never land where everything is speculation
[27:24.380 --> 27:33.380]  Well, it ties into the identity argument, because the argument that you're a natural-born citizen with your Christian given name
[27:33.380 --> 27:41.380]  spelled with capital, initial, and lowercase letters, and how the courts have to consider you a corporate entity with all capital letters
[27:41.380 --> 27:46.380]  because they practice...the British maritime law has many different names
[27:46.380 --> 27:55.380]  It's military law, corporation law, banking law, and that's how they can control us
[27:55.380 --> 28:04.380]  is through identifying us as this artificial entity, this virtual person that they have autonomous control over
[28:04.380 --> 28:09.380]  No, no, no, we don't use British maritime law
[28:09.380 --> 28:15.380]  We use American law that was originally based on British maritime law
[28:15.380 --> 28:20.380]  But then the British, they used law based on Roman law
[28:20.380 --> 28:28.380]  So we can as easily say we need to go back to Rome and read all their law books and follow all of their rules
[28:28.380 --> 28:39.380]  But my analysis of historical events over the last 200 years and the hidden history that I've discovered
[28:39.380 --> 28:48.380]  indicates to me that the British government through legal maneuvering and financial manipulation
[28:48.380 --> 28:52.380]  has reconquered the United States of America as one of their subjects
[28:52.380 --> 28:56.380]  Okay, that's still a conclusion. I can't find that in law either
[28:56.380 --> 29:00.380]  Well, it's not going to be there spelled out, but...
[29:00.380 --> 29:09.380] ...and where they have this jurisdiction and how they can disregard what is clear constitutional rights
[29:09.380 --> 29:15.380]  because the Constitution, going back to number 10, says that any rights not given to the Congress
[29:15.380 --> 29:20.380]  or prohibited by the states is retained by we the people
[29:20.380 --> 29:28.380]  Exactly, and this is not about some strange hidden secret society
[29:28.380 --> 29:32.380]  This is just ordinary corruption
[29:32.380 --> 29:39.380]  This is not because some secret thing is because you and I are not climbing down their throats
[29:39.380 --> 29:43.380]  and demanding that they follow law so they can do anything they want to
[29:43.380 --> 29:45.380]  It's not so complex
[29:45.380 --> 29:49.380]  Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait, we're going to break, we're going to break
[29:49.380 --> 29:59.380]  Hang on, Jeff. We'll be right back
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[30:59.380 --> 31:07.380]  Hello? Yes, George. How good of you to call
[31:07.380 --> 31:12.380]  Yeah, we had dinner with the Cheneys last week
[31:12.380 --> 31:18.380]  We had a great time just sitting around talking about politics, you know
[31:18.380 --> 31:23.380]  And I thought when Mr. Cheney was paying for the tab
[31:23.380 --> 31:28.380]  I saw a big red stain on his wall
[31:28.380 --> 31:35.380]  And I was thinking to myself, heavens, you know, the war must be going splendid
[31:35.380 --> 31:42.380]  Mmm, I'm feeling red money
[31:42.380 --> 31:47.380]  Red money is here, it's worth it's waiting to feel red money
[31:47.380 --> 31:53.380]  Red money. Talking about fiat currency
[31:53.380 --> 32:00.380]  Okay, we are speaking with Jeff in Michigan and I have to agree with Randy
[32:00.380 --> 32:06.380]  I want to see some kind of statute or court ruling or something
[32:06.380 --> 32:11.380]  This is not something that I necessarily disagree with
[32:11.380 --> 32:14.380]  It's just not something that I can use
[32:14.380 --> 32:19.380]  Well, the evidence is right in plain sight and we don't even see it
[32:19.380 --> 32:25.380]  I can give you Mark Stevens' argument, I can depose a judge in three questions
[32:25.380 --> 32:30.380]  First question, am I entitled to a fair trial or hearing? Of course you are
[32:30.380 --> 32:35.380]  Second question, will I get a fair trial or hearing if there's a conflict of interest?
[32:35.380 --> 32:39.380]  Of course not, any three year old will tell you if the conflict of interest happens you're not going to get a fair trial
[32:39.380 --> 32:43.380]  Judge, who do you work for?
[32:43.380 --> 32:47.380]  The only answer he can give if he's going to answer it is he works for the state
[32:47.380 --> 32:54.380]  The prosecution is the state, the clear conflict of interest
[32:54.380 --> 32:58.380]  No
[32:58.380 --> 33:04.380]  The prosecution is not the state
[33:04.380 --> 33:11.380]  The prosecution also works for the state
[33:11.380 --> 33:16.380]  That's spacious logic, logic based on false premise
[33:16.380 --> 33:20.380]  Both of them work for the state
[33:20.380 --> 33:24.380]  But they are not the same thing, the judge does not work for the prosecutor
[33:24.380 --> 33:26.380]  But he's not impartial
[33:26.380 --> 33:30.380]  Yeah, but the one doesn't lead from the other
[33:30.380 --> 33:43.380]  Now, in your defense, from your side, Tony Davis makes the argument that in fact the federal judges do work for the executive branch
[33:43.380 --> 33:52.380]  And I haven't went deep into how he gets there, but that's a serious concern he has that they're under the Department of Justice
[33:52.380 --> 33:57.380]  But it's not from something really esoteric
[33:57.380 --> 34:05.380]  It's not from this kind of conclusion saying that because they both work for the state that the judges necessarily compromise
[34:05.380 --> 34:13.380]  He's not because they both essentially work for us from the same line of logic
[34:13.380 --> 34:16.380]  Well, that's not the truth
[34:16.380 --> 34:22.380]  You see, if you're going to draw that kind of logical connection, then you have to extend it
[34:22.380 --> 34:26.380]  You can't just draw the one that you like and throw out the ones you don't
[34:26.380 --> 34:28.380]  This is every public
[34:28.380 --> 34:36.380]  And we are the sovereigns and they are the governmental entities we have created to serve us
[34:36.380 --> 34:42.380]  And that's the misnomer because they are our servants acting as our masters
[34:42.380 --> 34:44.380]  That's a conclusion
[34:44.380 --> 34:48.380]  That's evidence, evidentiary logic
[34:48.380 --> 34:53.380]  You have evidence, but from the evidence you drew the conclusion you want to do
[34:53.380 --> 34:57.380]  I can come to a lot of other conclusions from the same evidence
[34:57.380 --> 35:03.380]  So it doesn't become a fact, it's not something that's true, it's just something we believe
[35:03.380 --> 35:09.380]  And we really need to move on, but this is not what we do in this show
[35:09.380 --> 35:18.380]  And frankly, this is an area I would like to understand all these implications a lot more clearly
[35:18.380 --> 35:21.380]  But I can't do it in this show
[35:21.380 --> 35:25.380]  And I'm really not trying to give you a hard time
[35:25.380 --> 35:35.380]  It's just here we deal with the law that those guys are pretending to follow
[35:35.380 --> 35:44.380]  When I look at the law they're pretending to follow, I find all the checks and balances I need
[35:44.380 --> 35:52.380]  Especially in Texas, man, we have a good code of criminal procedure, penal code
[35:52.380 --> 35:55.380]  We have everything we need in there
[35:55.380 --> 36:03.380]  So far I haven't seen a single state that comes up to the sophistication of Texas law
[36:03.380 --> 36:09.380]  The problem with it is not that there's some secret forces out there
[36:09.380 --> 36:17.380]  You and I, the sovereigns of the republic just haven't went in there and kicked their behinds every way from Sunday
[36:17.380 --> 36:23.380]  We start doing that, especially the judges and defense counsel
[36:23.380 --> 36:27.380]  I am no longer even concerned with the prosecutor attorney, he is not a problem
[36:27.380 --> 36:32.380]  The police aren't a problem, the magistrates aren't a problem, none of those guys are a problem
[36:32.380 --> 36:37.380]  My attorney and that judge, that's where the problem is
[36:37.380 --> 36:40.380]  I never had any trust in the prosecutors anyway
[36:40.380 --> 36:45.380]  But the two I'm supposed to be able to trust are the ones that are betraying me the worst
[36:45.380 --> 36:51.380]  And I want to kick their behinds every way from Sunday and force them to do their jobs
[36:51.380 --> 36:53.380]  These problems will go away
[36:53.380 --> 36:59.380]  And I've had an attorney tell me he's just not going to represent me if I pursue my defense, as stated
[36:59.380 --> 37:02.380]  Did you file a bar grievance against him?
[37:02.380 --> 37:03.380]  No
[37:03.380 --> 37:05.380]  That's what you should have done
[37:05.380 --> 37:13.380]  I accepted an under advisement, a year under advisement settlement just to drop the issue
[37:13.380 --> 37:16.380]  And it's the only thing I would accept and he gave it to me
[37:16.380 --> 37:18.380]  If you got your deal, you're okay
[37:18.380 --> 37:25.380]  But the way to get the attorney to do his job is to kick his behind
[37:25.380 --> 37:29.380]  I wish I knew that five years ago, I'd have taken the tab
[37:29.380 --> 37:31.380]  This is what we're setting up
[37:31.380 --> 37:37.380]  And in doing this for all of this time, it's become clear where the problem really lies
[37:37.380 --> 37:44.380]  I think in the end, the biggest problem is defense counsel
[37:44.380 --> 37:51.380]  The people are not so much getting screwed by unscrupulous prosecutors or unscrupulous judges
[37:51.380 --> 37:55.380]  They're getting screwed by their own attorneys
[37:55.380 --> 38:00.380]  If their own attorneys were doing their jobs, these things would not be happening
[38:00.380 --> 38:06.380]  So we need to start beating the crap out of our own counsel
[38:06.380 --> 38:12.380]  And I'm setting up a way to go after your own attorney personally
[38:12.380 --> 38:17.380]  And when the judge tries to protect him, you get to go after the judge too
[38:17.380 --> 38:22.380]  In administrative areas where they have no protections
[38:22.380 --> 38:29.380]  Once we get them naked before us, they'll start getting their act straight
[38:29.380 --> 38:31.380]  At least that's my philosophy
[38:31.380 --> 38:33.380]  We really need to move along
[38:33.380 --> 38:34.380]  Okay
[38:34.380 --> 38:36.380]  Thanks Jeff, that was a good debate
[38:36.380 --> 38:38.380]  I don't get to do that often
[38:38.380 --> 38:40.380]  Okay, I'll talk to you soon
[38:40.380 --> 38:41.380]  Goodbye
[38:41.380 --> 38:42.380]  Okay, thank you
[38:42.380 --> 38:43.380]  Thank you Jeff
[38:43.380 --> 38:46.380]  Okay, we're going to go now to Dan in Connecticut
[38:46.380 --> 38:48.380]  Dan Reel, The Reel Deal
[38:48.380 --> 38:50.380]  What's up, Dan?
[38:50.380 --> 38:51.380]  Nothing much
[38:51.380 --> 38:58.380]  The thing that I hate about calling into your program is it usually leads into another comment that I had originally intended
[38:58.380 --> 38:59.380]  I'll keep it short
[38:59.380 --> 39:00.380]  That's okay
[39:00.380 --> 39:02.380]  I've got some good news for you
[39:02.380 --> 39:05.380]  The Reel ID Nullification in Connecticut is a go
[39:05.380 --> 39:09.380]  We have a bill written and we have a co-sponsor
[39:09.380 --> 39:10.380]  Wonderful
[39:10.380 --> 39:17.380]  Post Senate Bill 436, all I had to do with my basic electronics knowledge is explain
[39:17.380 --> 39:20.380]  Here's how the Reel ID can be used against you
[39:20.380 --> 39:26.380]  I did it for my state senator's legislative aid and he got the co-sponsor form out
[39:26.380 --> 39:31.380]  He filled it out and emailed me and said, hey, I got the form filled out
[39:31.380 --> 39:36.380]  That last caller you mentioned, how's your Latin doing today, Randy?
[39:36.380 --> 39:39.380]  Not very well
[39:39.380 --> 39:42.380]  Okay, well I'll just run it by you anyway
[39:42.380 --> 39:44.380]  It may ring a bell
[39:44.380 --> 39:47.380]  I don't know if you've been in touch with Dave Merland on this and all
[39:47.380 --> 39:51.380]  But I'm sure he's a statutory purist and it'll probably ring a bell with him anyway
[39:51.380 --> 40:01.380]  Basically saves you the trouble, if it's not in the law, it ain't there
[40:01.380 --> 40:03.380]  Statutory maxim
[40:03.380 --> 40:04.380]  Good
[40:04.380 --> 40:08.380]  If it doesn't say anything about the pretty flag, then it's not there
[40:08.380 --> 40:09.380]  Yeah
[40:09.380 --> 40:15.380]  If the law says this law includes hobbits and badgers, it does not include unicorns
[40:15.380 --> 40:17.380]  Precisely
[40:17.380 --> 40:19.380]  And that was my point
[40:19.380 --> 40:28.380]  There may be influences from those areas, but they're very indirect if they're there at all
[40:28.380 --> 40:32.380]  And I used to make the same mistake, believe it or not
[40:32.380 --> 40:35.380]  I'm probably sure you might have done it at the same point
[40:35.380 --> 40:41.380]  But once I started really looking into this, and especially when I went to Juris Informatics
[40:41.380 --> 40:44.380]  And I actually listened to what Dave Merland had to say
[40:44.380 --> 40:50.380]  And as far as how he constructed his arguments, it really came together for me
[40:50.380 --> 40:55.380]  I mean, it was coming together before, but that really got it together, how he did it
[40:55.380 --> 41:03.380]  That pointed me in the direction of statutory interpretation as far as the canons of it went
[41:03.380 --> 41:06.380]  I mean, decided matters in how it was done
[41:06.380 --> 41:08.380]  It really made life simple
[41:08.380 --> 41:18.380]  Yeah, and I look at the case law, and I'm surprised how well-written most of it is
[41:18.380 --> 41:24.380]  Oh yeah, like Roe v. Wade, I had a guy that was a liberal Democrat
[41:24.380 --> 41:26.380]  He sent me this email about it
[41:26.380 --> 41:30.380]  And it was this discussion I had with him about the Internal Revenue Code
[41:30.380 --> 41:34.380]  And I said, it's perfect, go read it
[41:34.380 --> 41:39.380]  And of course, that maxim I just gave, I mean, if you actually read it, it says
[41:39.380 --> 41:43.380]  Includes A, B, and C, does not include D
[41:43.380 --> 41:47.380]  Dave Merland makes the same exact point
[41:47.380 --> 41:52.380]  And this guy brought up Roe v. Wade, and I'm like, glad you brought that case up
[41:52.380 --> 41:57.380]  It did not say Roe v. Wade suddenly legalizes abortion
[41:57.380 --> 42:03.380]  The question in the case law with Roe v. Wade was that it was void for vagueness
[42:03.380 --> 42:08.380]  And it was a due process violation, that's all
[42:08.380 --> 42:14.380]  And that goes to a question that I keep asking
[42:14.380 --> 42:18.380]  I'm sorry, it goes to a statement I keep making about questions
[42:18.380 --> 42:24.380]  If you don't ask the right question, you won't get the right answer
[42:24.380 --> 42:29.380]  And I find people quoting case law all the time
[42:29.380 --> 42:33.380]  Where they're talking about a different answer
[42:33.380 --> 42:38.380]  As if it's addressing a different question than the one that was asked in the case
[42:38.380 --> 42:45.380]  Exactly, you mentioned Screws v. United States, that is an excellent case to read, by the way
[42:45.380 --> 42:48.380]  I'm probably sure you know that, but I'm just saying that for your listeners
[42:48.380 --> 42:52.380]  It's one of my favorites
[42:52.380 --> 42:57.380]  When I get a public official on the stand, my first question is
[42:57.380 --> 43:01.380]  Are you insane?
[43:01.380 --> 43:03.380]  Objection, objection
[43:03.380 --> 43:10.380]  And in the common language it seems so crazy to ask it, pardon the pun, I think it was a good one
[43:10.380 --> 43:14.380]  It's sidebar, sidebar, and we go up and I explain Screws
[43:14.380 --> 43:21.380]  For those who don't know, my favorite section out of Screws, Screws goes to notice
[43:21.380 --> 43:28.380]  Two deputies and a sheriff in a bar in Mississippi, 1945, drinking, upset at this black guy
[43:28.380 --> 43:33.380]  They're going to go arrest him, bartender tries to talk him out of it, they won't be dissuaded
[43:33.380 --> 43:37.380]  They go arrest him, wind up beating him to death on the courthouse steps
[43:37.380 --> 43:41.380]  Okay, listen, we're going to break, hold the story, Dan
[43:41.380 --> 43:43.380]  I'll let you guys go, I just wanted to put that in for you
[43:43.380 --> 43:59.380]  Okay, great, alright, we'll go to Mike from Texas and Jim from Texas when we come back
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[45:12.380 --> 45:27.380]  It's all according to the will of the Almighty
[45:27.380 --> 45:35.380]  I read his book and it says there's none for the unsightly
[45:35.380 --> 45:42.380]  These warmongers come by that term of right
[45:42.380 --> 45:49.380]  I won't pay for the war with my body
[45:49.380 --> 45:52.380]  Ain't gonna pay for the car with my money
[45:52.380 --> 45:56.380]  I won't pay for the fun with my body
[45:56.380 --> 45:59.380]  Their plans wicked and their logic shoddy
[45:59.380 --> 46:03.380]  Ain't gonna pay for the oil with my body
[46:03.380 --> 46:06.380]  I won't pay for the boys with my money
[46:06.380 --> 46:10.380]  Ain't gonna pay for the kids with my body
[46:10.380 --> 46:14.380]  Their whole agenda smells funny
[46:14.380 --> 46:20.380]  I wanna fight in a war of my own
[46:20.380 --> 46:27.380]  That one would speak less at the death row
[46:27.380 --> 46:33.380]  I wanna pay for a war of my own
[46:33.380 --> 46:40.380]  They live in glass houses so I can watch them throw bones
[46:40.380 --> 46:44.380]  I wanna fight in a war I can win
[46:44.380 --> 46:47.380]  I can never win the one that they have me in
[46:47.380 --> 46:51.380]  That one lose one before it begins
[46:51.380 --> 46:54.380]  I wanna pay for a war I can win
[46:54.380 --> 47:01.380]  When I'm fighting in my own war
[47:01.380 --> 47:08.380]  It's such a peaceful feeling
[47:08.380 --> 47:15.380]  When I'm paying for my own war
[47:15.380 --> 47:20.380]  I take time for the healing
[47:20.380 --> 47:25.380]  Yeah
[47:25.380 --> 47:32.380]  It's all according to the will of the Almighty
[47:32.380 --> 47:39.380]  Irish book and it says it cares not for the unsightly
[47:39.380 --> 47:42.380]  These fear mongers come by that tongue right
[47:42.380 --> 47:58.380]  Yeah
[47:58.380 --> 48:02.380]  Fear monger, war monger, we don't need you
[48:02.380 --> 48:11.380]  We're stronger
[48:11.380 --> 48:16.380]  Ain't gonna pay, I won't pay for the war with my body
[48:16.380 --> 48:23.380]  All right, rule of law, rule of law radio, Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens.
[48:23.380 --> 48:27.380]  Okay, we are going to continue to go to your calls.
[48:27.380 --> 48:35.380]  We're going to take calls for the rest of the evening, 512-646-1984.
[48:35.380 --> 48:39.380]  All right, we have Mike from Texas.
[48:39.380 --> 48:43.380]  Hey, Mike, thanks for calling in. What's on your mind tonight?
[48:43.380 --> 48:48.380]  Well, hi, this is Mike from Houston.
[48:48.380 --> 48:52.380]  I had called in, what, a couple of weeks ago about the FDCPA.
[48:52.380 --> 48:55.380]  You remember that?
[48:55.380 --> 48:56.380]  Give me some details.
[48:56.380 --> 48:57.380]  Yeah, refreshes.
[48:57.380 --> 49:01.380]  The FDCPA, remember you had George call in?
[49:01.380 --> 49:02.380]  Yeah.
[49:02.380 --> 49:14.380]  He had somebody, he had a prestigious bank call him in reference to his father-in-law's debt.
[49:14.380 --> 49:16.380]  Yeah, I remember that.
[49:16.380 --> 49:17.380]  Yeah, you remember?
[49:17.380 --> 49:18.380]  Yeah.
[49:18.380 --> 49:31.380]  Anyhow, I wanted to mention, well, first of all, Randy, did you get my email?
[49:31.380 --> 49:34.380]  Don't know.
[49:34.380 --> 49:35.380]  Oh, okay.
[49:35.380 --> 49:37.380]  Let me check.
[49:37.380 --> 49:40.380]  Yeah, I might have got it.
[49:40.380 --> 49:44.380]  I get so many, I might have not recognized the email address.
[49:44.380 --> 49:49.380]  Don't worry about it, man.
[49:49.380 --> 49:55.380]  I have a book by a guy named Peter Ericson, Cracking the Code.
[49:55.380 --> 49:56.380]  Yes, I'm familiar with that.
[49:56.380 --> 49:57.380]  Are you familiar with that word?
[49:57.380 --> 49:58.380]  Oh, yeah.
[49:58.380 --> 50:00.380]  Oh, okay, good, good.
[50:00.380 --> 50:12.380]  I was listening to your program, and I'm seeing some parallels between, you know, not just
[50:12.380 --> 50:25.380]  cracking the IRS code, but broad scheme, I mean, all throughout the legal system and
[50:25.380 --> 50:38.380]  really about how we conduct our lives as Americans, and I'm seeing a lot of parallels there.
[50:38.380 --> 50:49.380]  You know, you had a caller earlier talking about the Admiralty flag and all that, and
[50:49.380 --> 50:58.380]  I think what we've lost sight of, we get caught up in these little, like, pound-word spirals
[50:58.380 --> 50:59.380]  is what I call them.
[50:59.380 --> 51:08.380]  You know, we get caught up in one little aspect of the whole picture, and we have very bright,
[51:08.380 --> 51:18.380]  like, the caller that called in is, you know, obviously a very bright person, but we get
[51:18.380 --> 51:27.380]  caught in this downward spiral, and I think we've got to figure out it's not about the
[51:27.380 --> 51:37.380]  flag or it's not about, you know, the particular law that we're having to adhere to in any
[51:37.380 --> 51:38.380]  particular case.
[51:38.380 --> 51:49.380]  The fact of the matter is that we are the law, the people are the law, and, you know,
[51:49.380 --> 51:56.380]  I know there's certain ways that we have to present that when we're in a court, but
[51:56.380 --> 52:06.380]  I think in a larger aspect, we've always got to keep in mind that we are the law.
[52:06.380 --> 52:14.380]  The biggest problem is that we've all kind of lost sight of that, and we've let these
[52:14.380 --> 52:20.380]  people manipulate and rampage through our...
[52:20.380 --> 52:22.380]  Yeah, it goes to sovereignty.
[52:22.380 --> 52:29.380]  We've forgotten our sovereignty, and not to disparage the caller, on this show, that's
[52:29.380 --> 52:33.380]  not a place that we tend to go.
[52:33.380 --> 52:36.380]  Right, that is a very good point.
[52:36.380 --> 52:43.380]  I mean, that's one of the big things that I've gotten from the show, from you and Deborah,
[52:43.380 --> 52:50.380]  is that, hey, you know what, we're supposed to be in charge, why aren't we?
[52:50.380 --> 52:54.380]  Exactly, and the key to everything is empowerment.
[52:54.380 --> 53:02.380]  Once we realize that you and I as individuals really are the sovereigns in this republic,
[53:02.380 --> 53:08.380]  and the problem with the system is not the system.
[53:08.380 --> 53:12.380]  All the laws we need are there, and it's very well structured.
[53:12.380 --> 53:21.380]  We just haven't been exercising it, and everything about the show is intended to help people
[53:21.380 --> 53:25.380]  realize how powerful they already are.
[53:25.380 --> 53:36.380]  When I went to Randall County, there was nothing special about me other than I asked the right questions.
[53:36.380 --> 53:42.380]  Well, see, that is what's special about you, is that you did ask the right questions, that
[53:42.380 --> 53:53.380]  you did, you know, I guess for lack of better words, you put your head on the chopping block.
[53:53.380 --> 54:00.380]  You're the one who went out there, and you had the courage to face these people and say,
[54:00.380 --> 54:02.380]  hey, you know what, I'm in charge.
[54:02.380 --> 54:05.380]  You're not in charge.
[54:05.380 --> 54:10.380]  The thing I try to get across on the show is it's not really courage.
[54:10.380 --> 54:17.380]  I mean, once you find out, once you realize how impotent they are in the long run,
[54:17.380 --> 54:20.380]  yeah, they can sting you in the short run.
[54:20.380 --> 54:25.380]  The Williamson County arrested me, and it was embarrassing, and it was uncomfortable
[54:25.380 --> 54:28.380]  sleeping on that concrete floor.
[54:28.380 --> 54:38.380]  But now I get to punish Williamson County for years, and they will eventually pay me
[54:38.380 --> 54:44.380]  a whole lot of money for that time I spent on that floor.
[54:44.380 --> 54:48.380]  Besides, this is our job.
[54:48.380 --> 54:51.380]  Sovereign, this is our job.
[54:51.380 --> 54:52.380]  Thank you very much.
[54:52.380 --> 54:56.380]  You know, I wish more people realized that.
[54:56.380 --> 55:11.380]  It's my job, it's your job, it's everybody's job to make sure that our society is handled.
[55:11.380 --> 55:19.380]  Well, let's not disparage those who weren't put here for the same purpose that we were.
[55:19.380 --> 55:22.380]  I have this path I was put here to follow.
[55:22.380 --> 55:23.380]  I didn't make up the path.
[55:23.380 --> 55:27.380]  It was just put in front of me, and other people have different paths.
[55:27.380 --> 55:34.380]  They have other things that they're here to do, and I have to give them respect for that.
[55:34.380 --> 55:41.380]  What I'm trying to do on this show is find those people out there who were put here to
[55:41.380 --> 55:44.380]  be on this path.
[55:44.380 --> 55:51.380]  Rick from California, Wendy from Tennessee, we're getting a number of them, and try to
[55:51.380 --> 55:55.380]  give them some tools that can help them along the path.
[55:55.380 --> 56:02.380]  Those who have other paths, I certainly won't disparage them for not doing what I'm doing.
[56:02.380 --> 56:04.380]  Right.
[56:04.380 --> 56:05.380]  Oh, no, no.
[56:05.380 --> 56:06.380]  I agree with you.
[56:06.380 --> 56:20.380]  You know, I think one of the greatest things about this show is that you have people calling
[56:20.380 --> 56:30.380]  in that really do want to see change happen.
[56:30.380 --> 56:39.380]  They'll go to the ends of the earth to make sure that that happens, or they take their
[56:39.380 --> 56:46.380]  own path into making that happen.
[56:46.380 --> 56:55.380]  I think that's probably one of the greatest things about living in this country is that
[56:55.380 --> 57:01.380]  you have so many different angles to attack this thing.
[57:01.380 --> 57:05.380]  Yes, and that's what we're trying to get out.
[57:05.380 --> 57:17.380]  Yeah, once we bring people's attention to it, then there's all kinds of angles in which
[57:17.380 --> 57:18.380]  to attack it.
[57:18.380 --> 57:34.380]  But I got to say, there really isn't any kind of show like this.
[57:34.380 --> 57:37.380]  I really don't know how to put it into words.
[57:37.380 --> 57:44.380]  I'm just so grateful for you and Deborah.
[57:44.380 --> 57:45.380]  Well, thank you.
[57:45.380 --> 57:56.380]  And just bringing that out to us, because I've always, even since I was a little kid,
[57:56.380 --> 58:00.380]  I've always just known that things aren't right.
[58:00.380 --> 58:11.380]  It isn't right, and it's so easy for you to put that aside and say, you know, somebody
[58:11.380 --> 58:15.380]  else will fix it or somebody will make it right, or maybe I'm crazy or something.
[58:15.380 --> 58:16.380]  Okay, we're about to go to break.
[58:16.380 --> 58:18.380]  Yeah, we're at the top of the hour.
[58:18.380 --> 58:19.380]  Oh, okay.
[58:19.380 --> 58:20.380]  Thank you.
[58:20.380 --> 58:22.380]  Thank you for calling in, Mike.
[58:22.380 --> 58:23.380]  We really appreciate it.
[58:23.380 --> 58:25.380]  Thank you so much for the support.
[58:25.380 --> 58:27.380]  We really, really do appreciate it.
[58:27.380 --> 58:32.380]  All right, we've got Jim from Texas, Meta from Texas, Gail's called back in as well.
[58:32.380 --> 58:37.380]  Callers, if you'd like to call in, 512-646-1984.
[58:37.380 --> 58:41.380]  Yeah, and let's take Meta next, she's probably on the satellite phone.
[58:41.380 --> 58:42.380]  On the satellite phone, yeah.
[58:42.380 --> 58:46.380]  So sorry, Jim, I know you were next, but we need to take Meta because she's on the satellite
[58:46.380 --> 58:47.380]  phone.
[58:47.380 --> 58:48.380]  All right, we'll be right back.
[58:48.380 --> 59:03.380]  Are you the plaintiff or defendant in a lawsuit?
[59:03.380 --> 59:07.380]  Yes, I'm the plaintiff.
[59:07.380 --> 59:08.380]  Okay.
[59:08.380 --> 59:09.380]  Thank you.
[59:09.380 --> 59:10.380]  Thank you.
[59:10.380 --> 59:11.380]  Thank you.
[59:11.380 --> 59:12.380]  Thank you.
[59:12.380 --> 59:13.380]  Thank you.
[59:13.380 --> 59:14.380]  Thank you.
[59:14.380 --> 59:15.380]  Thank you.
[59:15.380 --> 59:16.380]  Thank you.
[59:16.380 --> 59:44.380]  Thank you.
[59:47.380 --> 59:48.380]  Thank you.
[59:48.380 --> 59:49.380]  Thank you.
[59:49.380 --> 59:50.380]  Thank you.
[59:50.380 --> 01:00:17.380]  Thank you.
[01:00:20.380 --> 01:00:47.380]  Thank you.
[01:00:47.380 --> 01:00:50.380]  Thank you.
[01:00:50.380 --> 01:01:18.380]  Thank you.
[01:01:18.380 --> 01:01:20.380]  Thank you.
[01:01:48.380 --> 01:01:50.380]  Thank you.
[01:01:50.380 --> 01:01:52.380]  Thank you.
[01:01:52.380 --> 01:01:54.380]  Thank you.
[01:01:54.380 --> 01:01:56.380]  Thank you.
[01:01:56.380 --> 01:02:24.380]  Thank you.
[01:02:24.380 --> 01:02:26.380]  Thank you.
[01:02:55.380 --> 01:03:10.140]  We will occupy our Father's house, talking about our good Lord Jesus, our Father, we
[01:03:10.140 --> 01:03:15.380]  are stewards of His house, the Earth till He comes.
[01:03:15.380 --> 01:03:22.780]  Okay, before we continue with the calls, I have an announcement and request to make.
[01:03:22.780 --> 01:03:30.480]  All right, I've been getting some complaints from owners of various FM stations that are
[01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:40.000]  carrying rule of law radio network because of flagrancy with language on the part of
[01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:43.080]  the callers mostly.
[01:03:43.080 --> 01:03:52.360]  There's been a couple of hosts that have slipped once or twice, but people listen.
[01:03:52.360 --> 01:03:59.160]  We are being carried on eight FM stations and two AM stations.
[01:03:59.160 --> 01:04:01.480]  This isn't just internet.
[01:04:01.480 --> 01:04:03.600]  We are trying to get syndicated.
[01:04:03.600 --> 01:04:07.300]  We're trying to grow.
[01:04:07.300 --> 01:04:17.060]  In order to have a system set up with a stream delay, with a beep, that equipment costs about
[01:04:17.060 --> 01:04:20.200]  $5,000 to be honest.
[01:04:20.200 --> 01:04:26.840]  I could probably build a computer and write some software and scripts in Linux to emulate
[01:04:26.840 --> 01:04:30.960]  something like that and set something up.
[01:04:30.960 --> 01:04:38.400]  I need to hire somebody to run it anyway, even if I just bought the equipment.
[01:04:38.400 --> 01:04:44.800]  You have no idea what Randy and I, the sacrifices that we've made to do this.
[01:04:44.800 --> 01:04:52.120]  I have been working every minute of my life, every minute of my life that I am not out
[01:04:52.120 --> 01:04:54.640]  trying to make money to pay my bills.
[01:04:54.640 --> 01:05:01.600]  My husband supports us mostly, and people, please have some respect.
[01:05:01.600 --> 01:05:08.080]  You've got to have some respect with the language, all right?
[01:05:08.080 --> 01:05:15.880]  Because it's going to put me through a lot of grief and misery and a lot of work if I
[01:05:15.880 --> 01:05:21.960]  have to set up a censoring beep, if you guys can't hold your tongues, okay?
[01:05:21.960 --> 01:05:24.480]  Give me a break, please, please, callers.
[01:05:24.480 --> 01:05:26.040]  All right, that's all.
[01:05:26.040 --> 01:05:27.040]  That's all.
[01:05:27.040 --> 01:05:37.360]  I have to say that because we're risking getting dropped from the FM stations if people don't
[01:05:37.360 --> 01:05:40.800]  start holding their tongues, all right?
[01:05:40.800 --> 01:05:41.800]  Okay.
[01:05:41.800 --> 01:05:42.800]  Okay.
[01:05:42.800 --> 01:05:43.800]  It slipped.
[01:05:43.800 --> 01:05:44.800]  It won't happen again.
[01:05:44.800 --> 01:05:45.800]  All right.
[01:05:45.800 --> 01:05:52.120]  I know, but it's happened a lot lately, so I got to... You have to realize the gravity
[01:05:52.120 --> 01:05:55.320]  of the situation, callers.
[01:05:55.320 --> 01:05:57.560]  This isn't funny business here, okay?
[01:05:57.560 --> 01:05:59.600]  It's not cute, all right?
[01:05:59.600 --> 01:06:04.560]  We're sacrificing everything we have to do this, all right?
[01:06:04.560 --> 01:06:09.840]  All our finances, all our resources, our whole lives, our families supporting us through
[01:06:09.840 --> 01:06:13.440]  all of this, you got to help, all right?
[01:06:13.440 --> 01:06:15.760]  All right, let's move on.
[01:06:15.760 --> 01:06:18.800]  We're going to go to Jim in Texas.
[01:06:18.800 --> 01:06:19.800]  I'm sorry.
[01:06:19.800 --> 01:06:22.320]  Wait, we're going to go to Meta because she's on the cell iPhone.
[01:06:22.320 --> 01:06:24.120]  Meta, thanks for calling in.
[01:06:24.120 --> 01:06:25.120]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:06:25.120 --> 01:06:27.400]  Why don't you go ahead and go to Jim?
[01:06:27.400 --> 01:06:33.120]  I'm in civilization tonight, so I'm on a normal phone, but why don't you go to Jim first?
[01:06:33.120 --> 01:06:39.680]  Okay, all right, we're going to go to Jim in Texas.
[01:06:39.680 --> 01:06:40.680]  What's on your mind, Jim?
[01:06:40.680 --> 01:06:51.240]  I got a question for you on traffic citations, and first off, I need to ask you how my phone
[01:06:51.240 --> 01:06:52.240]  is.
[01:06:52.240 --> 01:06:55.880]  If it's not good tonight, I'll go back in on my cell phone.
[01:06:55.880 --> 01:07:00.000]  Usually my phone has a lot of echo in it.
[01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:04.680]  Okay, I'm not understanding.
[01:07:04.680 --> 01:07:10.040]  Okay, first I was just asking how my phone was, if it sounds okay.
[01:07:10.040 --> 01:07:11.040]  You sound fine.
[01:07:11.040 --> 01:07:13.040]  Do you have a question for Randy or me?
[01:07:13.040 --> 01:07:14.400]  Yes, I do.
[01:07:14.400 --> 01:07:24.040]  What I wanted to ask is on a traffic citation, is the traffic citation an information or
[01:07:24.040 --> 01:07:25.040]  a complaint?
[01:07:25.040 --> 01:07:26.040]  It's a complaint.
[01:07:26.040 --> 01:07:27.040]  It is a complaint.
[01:07:27.040 --> 01:07:37.120]  There is a special statute in the transportation code that authorizes the court to proceed
[01:07:37.120 --> 01:07:38.920]  on the complaint alone.
[01:07:38.920 --> 01:07:46.120]  Right, but the complaint has certain requirements, and it has to be in the name of the state,
[01:07:46.120 --> 01:07:50.720]  and all the new computer generated traffic citations are not that way.
[01:07:50.720 --> 01:07:58.200]  The statute says that the court can proceed on the citation.
[01:07:58.200 --> 01:08:01.200]  On the citation?
[01:08:01.200 --> 01:08:02.200]  Yes.
[01:08:02.200 --> 01:08:03.200]  Okay.
[01:08:03.200 --> 01:08:08.520]  Essentially, a complaint is really not terribly specific.
[01:08:08.520 --> 01:08:09.520]  Okay.
[01:08:09.520 --> 01:08:17.360]  There's only one thing that I could find that was a fatal flaw in a complaint, and that
[01:08:17.360 --> 01:08:23.280]  is if they get the date wrong so that you're accused of committing a crime before the date
[01:08:23.280 --> 01:08:25.640]  they say you committed it.
[01:08:25.640 --> 01:08:29.880]  A criminal complaint in the Texas criminal code under-
[01:08:29.880 --> 01:08:30.880]  1505.
[01:08:30.880 --> 01:08:37.280]  45.019 of the criminal code.
[01:08:37.280 --> 01:08:39.600]  Okay, that's justice court.
[01:08:39.600 --> 01:08:42.960]  Right, and that's what this is.
[01:08:42.960 --> 01:08:51.120]  It says it's sufficient if it's- it doesn't have to be in any specific form, but it has
[01:08:51.120 --> 01:08:57.400]  to contain certain things in the name of the state and by the authority of the state.
[01:08:57.400 --> 01:08:58.400]  Yes.
[01:08:58.400 --> 01:09:02.880]  Okay, and it has to conclude a certain way.
[01:09:02.880 --> 01:09:05.880]  Against the peace and dignity of the state of Texas.
[01:09:05.880 --> 01:09:06.880]  Right.
[01:09:06.880 --> 01:09:14.040]  It also says in a transportation code that they can pursue- that the court can proceed
[01:09:14.040 --> 01:09:19.240]  on the citation instead of a complaint.
[01:09:19.240 --> 01:09:20.640]  In the transportation code.
[01:09:20.640 --> 01:09:27.240]  Yeah, we could argue that that violates- that that puts the transportation code in conflict
[01:09:27.240 --> 01:09:31.280]  with the code of criminal procedure, and the code of criminal procedure under the hierarchy
[01:09:31.280 --> 01:09:35.840]  of law stands over the transportation code.
[01:09:35.840 --> 01:09:40.920]  So where the transportation code conflicts, code of criminal procedure governs.
[01:09:40.920 --> 01:09:41.920]  Right.
[01:09:41.920 --> 01:09:45.680]  We could raise that issue, just it hasn't been raised or it hasn't been adjudicated
[01:09:45.680 --> 01:09:46.680]  through the court yet.
[01:09:46.680 --> 01:09:47.680]  It's fixing to be.
[01:09:47.680 --> 01:09:48.680]  Good.
[01:09:48.680 --> 01:09:49.680]  Wonderful.
[01:09:49.680 --> 01:09:56.280]  Well, and that's my first- my first question is when they- I've got the arraignment on
[01:09:56.280 --> 01:09:57.280]  Tuesday.
[01:09:57.280 --> 01:09:58.280]  Okay.
[01:09:58.280 --> 01:10:03.560]  Oh wait, now if you're going to adjudicate this-
[01:10:03.560 --> 01:10:04.560]  Right.
[01:10:04.560 --> 01:10:07.240]  You need to come up to speed.
[01:10:07.240 --> 01:10:08.240]  What is an arraignment?
[01:10:08.240 --> 01:10:14.920]  Well, the arraignment is where they read the charges against you.
[01:10:14.920 --> 01:10:21.880]  What code of criminal procedure says an arraignment is a hearing for the purpose of determining
[01:10:21.880 --> 01:10:26.280]  the identity of the accused and taking a plea.
[01:10:26.280 --> 01:10:27.280]  Right.
[01:10:27.280 --> 01:10:28.280]  Nothing else.
[01:10:28.280 --> 01:10:29.280]  Right.
[01:10:29.280 --> 01:10:34.880]  Now, what they'll try to do is have you meet with the prosecutor.
[01:10:34.880 --> 01:10:36.880]  I won't do it.
[01:10:36.880 --> 01:10:37.880]  Good.
[01:10:37.880 --> 01:10:40.400]  I tell them I don't talk to persecutors.
[01:10:40.400 --> 01:10:41.600]  Right.
[01:10:41.600 --> 01:10:43.400]  And that always drives them crazy.
[01:10:43.400 --> 01:10:48.520]  And there's a chance, is it a small community?
[01:10:48.520 --> 01:10:51.400]  No, it's a fairly good size.
[01:10:51.400 --> 01:10:56.640]  I mean, the- the- it's Montgomery County, Texas.
[01:10:56.640 --> 01:10:57.640]  Oh.
[01:10:57.640 --> 01:10:58.640]  Down around Corsica.
[01:10:58.640 --> 01:10:59.640]  Yeah.
[01:10:59.640 --> 01:11:02.800]  I was thrown- I was thrown out of a courthouse in Montgomery County.
[01:11:02.800 --> 01:11:03.800]  Yeah.
[01:11:03.800 --> 01:11:08.520]  Well, I may be, but- Yeah, your district court.
[01:11:08.520 --> 01:11:14.640]  I filed a really habeas corpus and they stopped a murder trial and the judge heard my petition
[01:11:14.640 --> 01:11:18.040]  and then threw me out in the street.
[01:11:18.040 --> 01:11:24.600]  Well, my- my whole thing was is the complaint doesn't meet the standards, the- whether it
[01:11:24.600 --> 01:11:27.640]  be civil or criminal.
[01:11:27.640 --> 01:11:28.640]  Okay.
[01:11:28.640 --> 01:11:29.640]  Yeah.
[01:11:29.640 --> 01:11:30.640]  Okay.
[01:11:30.640 --> 01:11:38.720]  If it's- if you don't challenge- you have to challenge hierarchy of law to get here
[01:11:38.720 --> 01:11:41.720]  because the transportation code authorizes it.
[01:11:41.720 --> 01:11:42.720]  Right.
[01:11:42.720 --> 01:11:48.680]  So, in order to get there, you have to challenge it on hierarchy of law because the transportation
[01:11:48.680 --> 01:11:55.680]  code conflicts with the code of criminal procedure, code of criminal procedure governs.
[01:11:55.680 --> 01:12:02.160]  I have an issue that I haven't been put in a position where I get to adjudicate it yet,
[01:12:02.160 --> 01:12:03.160]  but I'm working.
[01:12:03.160 --> 01:12:04.160]  I want to.
[01:12:04.160 --> 01:12:05.640]  And that's open records law.
[01:12:05.640 --> 01:12:06.640]  Mm-hmm.
[01:12:06.640 --> 01:12:11.440]  The open records law says that the prosecuting- that a- you- you file a complaint under the
[01:12:11.440 --> 01:12:16.280]  open records act with a district attorney and the district attorney may determine whether
[01:12:16.280 --> 01:12:19.640]  or not he believes the crime's been committed.
[01:12:19.640 --> 01:12:26.800]  2.03 code of criminal procedure says when a prosecuting attorney is made known in any
[01:12:26.800 --> 01:12:31.320]  manner that a public official has violated a law relating to his office, he shall reduce
[01:12:31.320 --> 01:12:34.240]  complaint information submitted to the grand jury.
[01:12:34.240 --> 01:12:37.320]  With or without his discretion.
[01:12:37.320 --> 01:12:38.320]  Exactly.
[01:12:38.320 --> 01:12:39.320]  No discretion.
[01:12:39.320 --> 01:12:40.320]  Zero.
[01:12:40.320 --> 01:12:47.520]  So, my argument is code of criminal procedure under hierarchy of law comes first.
[01:12:47.520 --> 01:12:52.800]  Anything after that that conflicts with the code of criminal procedure, code of criminal
[01:12:52.800 --> 01:12:53.800]  procedure governs.
[01:12:53.800 --> 01:12:54.800]  Mm-hmm.
[01:12:54.800 --> 01:12:56.800]  And that's how you would do it here.
[01:12:56.800 --> 01:12:57.800]  Okay.
[01:12:57.800 --> 01:13:02.880]  Go to 45, chapter 45, we're on complaints.
[01:13:02.880 --> 01:13:03.880]  Right.
[01:13:03.880 --> 01:13:07.720]  Because chapter 45 comes over transportation code.
[01:13:07.720 --> 01:13:08.720]  Right.
[01:13:08.720 --> 01:13:14.400]  The judge that's hearing the case, these particular statutes are specifically for him.
[01:13:14.400 --> 01:13:15.400]  Right.
[01:13:15.400 --> 01:13:17.600]  But transportation code is general.
[01:13:17.600 --> 01:13:18.600]  Mm-hmm.
[01:13:18.600 --> 01:13:23.600]  So, you can make the argument there and in the alternative make the argument from the
[01:13:23.600 --> 01:13:25.440]  code of criminal procedure.
[01:13:25.440 --> 01:13:35.800]  Well, and that is what I want to do because my intent is to, I want to challenge it on
[01:13:35.800 --> 01:13:42.480]  this and if they want to proceed with this, they both have oath of office, the judge and
[01:13:42.480 --> 01:13:48.520]  the county attorney, so...
[01:13:48.520 --> 01:13:51.120]  That means they're under contract with you.
[01:13:51.120 --> 01:13:52.120]  Right.
[01:13:52.120 --> 01:13:56.360]  But they are also under contract to obey the law.
[01:13:56.360 --> 01:13:57.360]  That's the contract.
[01:13:57.360 --> 01:13:58.360]  Right.
[01:13:58.360 --> 01:14:00.800]  That's the one they signed.
[01:14:00.800 --> 01:14:09.320]  And it's perfect as far as I can see that if they go forth with this when they don't
[01:14:09.320 --> 01:14:14.040]  meet their requirements, I get to sue both of them civilly for violation of contract.
[01:14:14.040 --> 01:14:15.040]  I got one...
[01:14:15.040 --> 01:14:16.040]  It's an obligation.
[01:14:16.040 --> 01:14:20.560]  I got another one for you.
[01:14:20.560 --> 01:14:26.120]  Are you familiar with transportation code 543-005-008?
[01:14:26.120 --> 01:14:29.120]  543-005-005.
[01:14:29.120 --> 01:14:34.680]  You will love this.
[01:14:34.680 --> 01:14:43.360]  This would make a good argument as to why it's inappropriate to use the citation.
[01:14:43.360 --> 01:14:52.720]  Because the citation for most every county in Texas violates 543-006 paragraph A and
[01:14:52.720 --> 01:14:53.720]  B.
[01:14:53.720 --> 01:14:54.720]  Right.
[01:14:54.720 --> 01:14:59.280]  And that is the date on the citation.
[01:14:59.280 --> 01:15:00.280]  Right.
[01:15:00.280 --> 01:15:01.280]  Right.
[01:15:01.280 --> 01:15:03.920]  It's the honor before.
[01:15:03.920 --> 01:15:04.920]  It's the violation.
[01:15:04.920 --> 01:15:05.920]  Right.
[01:15:05.920 --> 01:15:07.960]  And I agree with that.
[01:15:07.960 --> 01:15:13.480]  And this also states honor before, not a state certain.
[01:15:13.480 --> 01:15:14.760]  So that one...
[01:15:14.760 --> 01:15:20.120]  In that particular case, the officer has violated the provisions of the act and the subject
[01:15:20.120 --> 01:15:21.760]  removal from office.
[01:15:21.760 --> 01:15:29.120]  So it would show why it would be inappropriate to use this garbage that you should go to
[01:15:29.120 --> 01:15:30.840]  a proper criminal complaint.
[01:15:30.840 --> 01:15:31.840]  Right.
[01:15:31.840 --> 01:15:39.680]  See, the whole thing is now the state, this is the DPS, and I don't know that municipalities
[01:15:39.680 --> 01:15:47.860]  are doing it or county or anybody else, but they are going to a computer-generated ticket.
[01:15:47.860 --> 01:15:52.560]  They don't sign it, so there is no signature on the complaint.
[01:15:52.560 --> 01:15:53.560]  No problem.
[01:15:53.560 --> 01:16:02.400]  But the courts have held is when the officer files the citation, it is presumed to be filed
[01:16:02.400 --> 01:16:04.600]  under oath.
[01:16:04.600 --> 01:16:13.120]  Well, in the file itself, the citation is there, but there is no signature one way or
[01:16:13.120 --> 01:16:14.120]  the other.
[01:16:14.120 --> 01:16:15.120]  And it does state...
[01:16:15.120 --> 01:16:16.120]  Ah.
[01:16:16.120 --> 01:16:18.120] ...that he has to sign it.
[01:16:18.120 --> 01:16:19.120]  If it's...
[01:16:19.120 --> 01:16:21.400]  Either that or fix his mark.
[01:16:21.400 --> 01:16:24.680]  Now that is valid.
[01:16:24.680 --> 01:16:27.120]  Now you have no accuser.
[01:16:27.120 --> 01:16:28.920]  Right.
[01:16:28.920 --> 01:16:29.920]  Without an...
[01:16:29.920 --> 01:16:31.280]  Under law, that's affirmation.
[01:16:31.280 --> 01:16:34.880]  It must be affirmed by his hand.
[01:16:34.880 --> 01:16:38.700]  And that's exactly what the law says, that when he signs the ticket, he does so under
[01:16:38.700 --> 01:16:39.700]  oath.
[01:16:39.700 --> 01:16:40.700]  Right.
[01:16:40.700 --> 01:16:41.700]  Even by his...
[01:16:41.700 --> 01:16:42.700]  He could put an X on it.
[01:16:42.700 --> 01:16:44.760]  It's fine, but he didn't put anything on it.
[01:16:44.760 --> 01:16:47.440]  So no documents have been filed.
[01:16:47.440 --> 01:16:49.200]  It's invalid on its face.
[01:16:49.200 --> 01:16:50.200]  Right.
[01:16:50.200 --> 01:16:53.600]  And my intent is to get them to proceed with this.
[01:16:53.600 --> 01:16:54.760]  Wait, wait.
[01:16:54.760 --> 01:16:58.480]  One other consideration.
[01:16:58.480 --> 01:17:05.680]  That means that that particular document is not sufficient to invoke the subject matter
[01:17:05.680 --> 01:17:07.720]  jurisdiction of the court.
[01:17:07.720 --> 01:17:08.720]  Right.
[01:17:08.720 --> 01:17:09.720]  So...
[01:17:09.720 --> 01:17:13.500]  See, I didn't want to challenge it on subject matter, but I'm afraid I'm going to have to
[01:17:13.500 --> 01:17:20.120]  because both officers have an oath of office.
[01:17:20.120 --> 01:17:26.760]  Now if I challenge it, they convert no jurisdiction to the court because it's not signed, it's
[01:17:26.760 --> 01:17:29.400]  not in the name of the court, it's not anywhere.
[01:17:29.400 --> 01:17:37.800]  And even if the citation had been signed, it was prepared in violation of law and since
[01:17:37.800 --> 01:17:49.320]  it's printed that way, whatever jurisdiction they worked for, they acted in concert and
[01:17:49.320 --> 01:17:53.800]  collusion in the form of a conspiracy to violate this law.
[01:17:53.800 --> 01:17:54.800]  Absolutely.
[01:17:54.800 --> 01:17:56.800]  They know the law of screws versus U.S.
[01:17:56.800 --> 01:17:57.800]  Absolutely.
[01:17:57.800 --> 01:17:58.800]  That's their problem.
[01:17:58.800 --> 01:18:02.160]  Oh, I was telling that earlier and I didn't finish it.
[01:18:02.160 --> 01:18:04.600]  Let me finish that quickly.
[01:18:04.600 --> 01:18:08.120]  They arrested this guy, beat him to death on the courthouse steps.
[01:18:08.120 --> 01:18:09.640]  They were sued in the...
[01:18:09.640 --> 01:18:13.840]  They were prosecuted in the state and they were sued in the state.
[01:18:13.840 --> 01:18:17.280]  And then they were sued again in the federal and they complained to the federal court that
[01:18:17.280 --> 01:18:21.080]  we didn't have adequate notice that we could be sued in the federal.
[01:18:21.080 --> 01:18:26.840]  And the courts went into a whole dissertation on the nature of notice and they said that
[01:18:26.840 --> 01:18:33.160]  a private citizen cannot claim ignorance of the law as a defense to prosecution.
[01:18:33.160 --> 01:18:39.680]  A public official, and I'm paraphrasing here, in a position to affect the rights of a citizen
[01:18:39.680 --> 01:18:42.480]  is held to a much higher standard.
[01:18:42.480 --> 01:18:45.520]  And here I'm not paraphrasing.
[01:18:45.520 --> 01:18:54.080]  If a public official violates a ruling of this court and he be sane, he may not be heard
[01:18:54.080 --> 01:18:57.000]  to say he knows not what he does.
[01:18:57.000 --> 01:19:00.480]  That's why I ask him if he's insane.
[01:19:00.480 --> 01:19:05.560]  We'll get a sidebar and I'll quote screws to him and say, your honor, I'm going to demonstrate
[01:19:05.560 --> 01:19:12.760]  that this officer has violated the statute and his defense will be under official oppression
[01:19:12.760 --> 01:19:18.520]  if public official violates a law relating to his office, knowing his conduct is unlawful.
[01:19:18.520 --> 01:19:23.880]  Unless he's insane, he can't claim that he didn't know his conduct was unlawful.
[01:19:23.880 --> 01:19:24.880]  That's a hoot.
[01:19:24.880 --> 01:19:25.880]  Okay.
[01:19:25.880 --> 01:19:26.880]  I'm sorry.
[01:19:26.880 --> 01:19:27.880]  Interrupted.
[01:19:27.880 --> 01:19:28.880]  Fantastic.
[01:19:28.880 --> 01:19:32.720]  I've got one other question really quick.
[01:19:32.720 --> 01:19:33.720]  Criminal complaint.
[01:19:33.720 --> 01:19:38.880]  You said an officer has to make a criminal complaint in his private capacity.
[01:19:38.880 --> 01:19:39.880]  Yes.
[01:19:39.880 --> 01:19:45.560]  How does he do that when he's being paid at the same time by the state, the city, the
[01:19:45.560 --> 01:19:46.560]  county or somebody?
[01:19:46.560 --> 01:19:47.560]  Yeah.
[01:19:47.560 --> 01:19:48.880]  I've brought up that point before too.
[01:19:48.880 --> 01:19:55.480]  You know, if I was a garbage collector and I happen to be in a place because I'm collecting
[01:19:55.480 --> 01:19:59.680]  garbage and I see you commit a crime, I go file a complaint.
[01:19:59.680 --> 01:20:03.320]  I'm working for the city, but I don't have any special capacity.
[01:20:03.320 --> 01:20:06.080]  There's nothing in law that gives me a special capacity to do this.
[01:20:06.080 --> 01:20:12.760]  Yeah, but Randy, you would clock out of the time, you know, of your timing of, you know,
[01:20:12.760 --> 01:20:18.800]  your billing your employer, you know, I mean, you wouldn't bill for those hours to stop
[01:20:18.800 --> 01:20:21.600]  collecting garbage and go down and fill out paperwork.
[01:20:21.600 --> 01:20:27.120]  And I've brought this up before too that these cops are still getting paid on the clock to
[01:20:27.120 --> 01:20:29.840]  go fill out the paperwork in their private capacity.
[01:20:29.840 --> 01:20:31.360]  So I have a problem with that too.
[01:20:31.360 --> 01:20:38.960]  There is nothing in law that gives a policeman any special capacity to file a criminal complaint.
[01:20:38.960 --> 01:20:42.680]  Nowhere, nothing, nada.
[01:20:42.680 --> 01:20:43.920]  I agree with that.
[01:20:43.920 --> 01:20:52.240]  I don't believe there is, but when they say that he has to do it in his individual capacity,
[01:20:52.240 --> 01:20:53.240]  you know.
[01:20:53.240 --> 01:20:54.240]  He has to sign it under oath.
[01:20:54.240 --> 01:20:55.240]  True.
[01:20:55.240 --> 01:20:57.840]  Well, he signs everything he signs under oath.
[01:20:57.840 --> 01:20:58.840]  Yeah.
[01:20:58.840 --> 01:20:59.840]  So that's individual.
[01:20:59.840 --> 01:21:06.000]  Yeah, but I think, I think what Jim is saying, and I definitely know from my perspective,
[01:21:06.000 --> 01:21:11.160]  I have a problem with the fact that he's on the clock and getting paid while he's doing
[01:21:11.160 --> 01:21:12.160]  that.
[01:21:12.160 --> 01:21:15.560]  Where's the division, I guess, is what I- Exactly.
[01:21:15.560 --> 01:21:19.920]  It happens to be his job to taste down crime.
[01:21:19.920 --> 01:21:29.000]  It would be unreasonable to have him arrest someone, bring him to court, go clock out,
[01:21:29.000 --> 01:21:31.600]  fill out the complaint, give it to the court, go clock back in.
[01:21:31.600 --> 01:21:32.600]  Why?
[01:21:32.600 --> 01:21:33.600]  Why is that unreasonable?
[01:21:33.600 --> 01:21:37.600]  Because they do this so much and there's so many police.
[01:21:37.600 --> 01:21:38.600]  Are you kidding?
[01:21:38.600 --> 01:21:42.720]  How much taxpayer money would it save for them to clock out?
[01:21:42.720 --> 01:21:43.720]  Give me a break.
[01:21:43.720 --> 01:21:44.720]  Yeah, but what is the point?
[01:21:44.720 --> 01:21:45.720]  Well.
[01:21:45.720 --> 01:21:46.720]  I know.
[01:21:46.720 --> 01:21:47.720]  I know.
[01:21:47.720 --> 01:21:48.720]  I know.
[01:21:48.720 --> 01:21:49.720]  It's nitpicking.
[01:21:49.720 --> 01:21:53.560]  It's nitpicking, but still, it's the principle of the matter.
[01:21:53.560 --> 01:21:54.560]  That's right.
[01:21:54.560 --> 01:22:04.840]  It says that basically, it's in his own individual capacity, and it just makes you think.
[01:22:04.840 --> 01:22:05.840]  Yeah.
[01:22:05.840 --> 01:22:12.160]  The only reason I go to that is because you and I have the same capacity he does.
[01:22:12.160 --> 01:22:13.160]  Right.
[01:22:13.160 --> 01:22:20.560]  So, when they say, like this... Oh, a thing I forgot to mention about Randall County is
[01:22:20.560 --> 01:22:25.400]  she told me that in Randall County, complaints are filed with the clerk.
[01:22:25.400 --> 01:22:26.400]  Hmm.
[01:22:26.400 --> 01:22:27.400]  Hoo-ha.
[01:22:27.400 --> 01:22:28.400]  I said, wonderful.
[01:22:28.400 --> 01:22:29.400]  Wait a minute.
[01:22:29.400 --> 01:22:35.240]  There's nothing in law that directs criminal complaints to be filed with the clerk.
[01:22:35.240 --> 01:22:37.480]  I brought that up to her.
[01:22:37.480 --> 01:22:39.840]  She said, there's nothing to keep them from it either.
[01:22:39.840 --> 01:22:46.520]  I said, normally, I can file a civil complaint with the clerk, but generally, a criminal
[01:22:46.520 --> 01:22:47.520]  complaint is filed with the magistrate.
[01:22:47.520 --> 01:22:52.800]  She said, well, she knows that, but there's nothing forbidding the clerk from taking a
[01:22:52.800 --> 01:22:53.800]  criminal complaint.
[01:22:53.800 --> 01:22:56.800]  No, there's nothing forbidding it, but- Oh, no.
[01:22:56.800 --> 01:22:58.040]  There's the mayor of the town.
[01:22:58.040 --> 01:22:59.760]  A lot of people can take complaints.
[01:22:59.760 --> 01:23:01.280]  Yeah, but he's a magistrate.
[01:23:01.280 --> 01:23:02.280]  The clerk is not.
[01:23:02.280 --> 01:23:06.200]  So, I told the clerk, that's wonderful.
[01:23:06.200 --> 01:23:08.800]  I've been trying to get complaints filed with the clerk forever.
[01:23:08.800 --> 01:23:11.080]  Now, I can just bring them straight to you.
[01:23:11.080 --> 01:23:14.560]  She said, well, you're not a police officer.
[01:23:14.560 --> 01:23:15.560]  What?
[01:23:15.560 --> 01:23:17.880]  Wait, let me finish.
[01:23:17.880 --> 01:23:20.840]  She said, well, you're not a police officer.
[01:23:20.840 --> 01:23:28.200]  I said, ma'am, I have briefed that particular issue thoroughly.
[01:23:28.200 --> 01:23:34.880]  When I come down to file complaints against these public officials, you need to do your
[01:23:34.880 --> 01:23:38.680]  homework before you tell me there's a difference between me and the police.
[01:23:38.680 --> 01:23:40.680]  Well, Randy, I have a question.
[01:23:40.680 --> 01:23:45.160]  If these clerks are going to take these criminal complaints, is there anything in law that
[01:23:45.160 --> 01:23:50.760]  requires or directs the clerk to give the complaints to a magistrate, because ultimately
[01:23:50.760 --> 01:23:55.840]  the magistrate has to see it or else there's no due process?
[01:23:55.840 --> 01:23:56.840]  Good question.
[01:23:56.840 --> 01:23:59.760]  They're just doing what they want to.
[01:23:59.760 --> 01:24:06.280]  Well, I mean, you're saying that, okay, these people can file criminal complaints with the
[01:24:06.280 --> 01:24:08.160]  clerk of the court in this county.
[01:24:08.160 --> 01:24:11.680]  Well, I can file a criminal complaint with anybody I want.
[01:24:11.680 --> 01:24:12.680]  I could give it to you.
[01:24:12.680 --> 01:24:13.680]  I could give it to Jerry.
[01:24:13.680 --> 01:24:15.160]  I could go give it to Pat.
[01:24:15.160 --> 01:24:17.120]  I mean, that doesn't mean anything.
[01:24:17.120 --> 01:24:21.960]  When you file it with the district clerk, she gives it a cause number.
[01:24:21.960 --> 01:24:24.400]  It becomes a part of the permanent record.
[01:24:24.400 --> 01:24:31.640]  Yeah, but the magistrate still has to review it and have a finding of probable cause or
[01:24:31.640 --> 01:24:33.560]  else there's no due process.
[01:24:33.560 --> 01:24:34.560]  I know that.
[01:24:34.560 --> 01:24:39.360]  I didn't argue that with her because I'm going to bring a whole stack of criminal complaints
[01:24:39.360 --> 01:24:40.960]  to her and give them to her.
[01:24:40.960 --> 01:24:41.960]  Oh, my goodness.
[01:24:41.960 --> 01:24:45.320]  Well, let's see what she does with them to say.
[01:24:45.320 --> 01:24:46.880]  That's exactly what I want to see.
[01:24:46.880 --> 01:24:48.560]  I have one more thing to tell.
[01:24:48.560 --> 01:24:52.760]  It's just for information for the people that are looking for them.
[01:24:52.760 --> 01:24:58.640]  On the justice of the peace and the county attorneys, the oath of office, if they are
[01:24:58.640 --> 01:25:04.760]  looking for them, are filed with the commissioner's court records.
[01:25:04.760 --> 01:25:06.760]  Ah, okay.
[01:25:06.760 --> 01:25:15.040]  So they're not in the records of the county clerk and recorder, they're in the commissioner's
[01:25:15.040 --> 01:25:16.040]  court.
[01:25:16.040 --> 01:25:17.040]  Oh, good.
[01:25:17.040 --> 01:25:18.040]  Wonderful.
[01:25:18.040 --> 01:25:28.600]  And if you need the anti-bribery oath, they all are not in the commissioner's court nor
[01:25:28.600 --> 01:25:29.600]  in the...
[01:25:29.600 --> 01:25:30.720]  Secretary of state, isn't it?
[01:25:30.720 --> 01:25:33.920]  They are all in the secretary of state's office.
[01:25:33.920 --> 01:25:37.920]  So just for information for people that are looking for them, I know there's a lot of
[01:25:37.920 --> 01:25:38.920]  them.
[01:25:38.920 --> 01:25:39.920]  Good.
[01:25:39.920 --> 01:25:40.920]  That's good information.
[01:25:40.920 --> 01:25:41.920]  We really need to go to Meta.
[01:25:41.920 --> 01:25:42.920]  All right.
[01:25:42.920 --> 01:25:43.920]  Thanks, Jim.
[01:25:43.920 --> 01:25:44.920]  Bye.
[01:25:44.920 --> 01:25:45.920]  Yes.
[01:25:45.920 --> 01:25:46.920]  Thank you, Jim.
[01:25:46.920 --> 01:25:47.920]  Okay.
[01:25:47.920 --> 01:25:48.920]  Excellent call.
[01:25:48.920 --> 01:25:49.920]  Excellent callers.
[01:25:49.920 --> 01:25:50.920]  We've got great callers.
[01:25:50.920 --> 01:25:51.920]  Okay.
[01:25:51.920 --> 01:25:52.920]  We're going to go to Meta in Texas.
[01:25:52.920 --> 01:25:53.920]  Okay, Meta.
[01:25:53.920 --> 01:25:54.920]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:25:54.920 --> 01:25:55.920]  What's the update?
[01:25:55.920 --> 01:26:01.240]  Well, one of the things I was curious about is on the change of venue and I was reading
[01:26:01.240 --> 01:26:08.200]  over it and I'm not a judge, I'm not a defendant, so I was kind of trying to figure out what
[01:26:08.200 --> 01:26:14.120]  is the best format since I'm the complainant wanting to change a venue.
[01:26:14.120 --> 01:26:15.800]  You can't change...
[01:26:15.800 --> 01:26:21.240]  If you are filing a criminal complaint, you have no standing.
[01:26:21.240 --> 01:26:22.780]  Okay.
[01:26:22.780 --> 01:26:28.640]  If you're filing a civil action, then you have standing to challenge venue.
[01:26:28.640 --> 01:26:35.520]  But in filing a criminal complaint, all you're doing is notifying the court that you have
[01:26:35.520 --> 01:26:38.080]  reason to believe a crime has been committed.
[01:26:38.080 --> 01:26:45.200]  Now, it's the duty of the court to look at your allegation and see if there is sufficient
[01:26:45.200 --> 01:26:48.720]  allegation of probable cause to warrant a prosecution.
[01:26:48.720 --> 01:26:56.240]  But what if it's the court and the grand jury, i.e. the foreman, that I'm filing against?
[01:26:56.240 --> 01:27:02.160]  Now in that case, you have standing to move to disqualify.
[01:27:02.160 --> 01:27:10.520]  You would move the district court to disqualify the foreman of the grand jury, the prosecutor
[01:27:10.520 --> 01:27:19.000]  if he's one of them, anybody involved with the complaint who would have any kind of jurisdiction
[01:27:19.000 --> 01:27:22.000]  over the complaint.
[01:27:22.000 --> 01:27:23.800]  Including the judge who impaneled?
[01:27:23.800 --> 01:27:24.800]  Yes.
[01:27:24.800 --> 01:27:27.240]  Do I go to his court to do this?
[01:27:27.240 --> 01:27:35.840]  You go to his court, file a motion to disqualify or to recuse himself, a motion to appoint
[01:27:35.840 --> 01:27:41.000]  an attorney pro tem to prosecute all of them.
[01:27:41.000 --> 01:27:47.080]  Because if the prosecutor is named, then he can't sit because he's disqualified.
[01:27:47.080 --> 01:27:53.080]  So ask the court to appoint an attorney pro tem to prosecute all of them.
[01:27:53.080 --> 01:27:58.560]  And then ask the court to appoint, to impanel a special investigative grand jury because
[01:27:58.560 --> 01:28:04.080]  the current grand jury has been contaminated by association with the accused.
[01:28:04.080 --> 01:28:05.080]  Okay.
[01:28:05.080 --> 01:28:11.760]  And one other thing, petition the court for a court of inquiry.
[01:28:11.760 --> 01:28:12.760]  Okay.
[01:28:12.760 --> 01:28:23.760]  Look in chapter 52, Texas rules of civil procedure.
[01:28:23.760 --> 01:28:24.760]  Civil procedure, okay.
[01:28:24.760 --> 01:28:25.760]  I'm sorry.
[01:28:25.760 --> 01:28:26.760]  Criminal procedure.
[01:28:26.760 --> 01:28:27.760]  Okay.
[01:28:27.760 --> 01:28:28.760]  Criminal.
[01:28:28.760 --> 01:28:29.760]  Yeah.
[01:28:29.760 --> 01:28:30.760]  Yeah.
[01:28:30.760 --> 01:28:31.760]  Criminal procedure is court of inquiry.
[01:28:31.760 --> 01:28:39.120]  Civil procedure is your corporation unless you object to it and rules of evidence is
[01:28:39.120 --> 01:28:40.120]  habeas corpus.
[01:28:40.120 --> 01:28:48.200]  To answer a question from way back when you're talking about pro se, pro se says you're representing
[01:28:48.200 --> 01:28:49.200]  yourself.
[01:28:49.200 --> 01:28:51.120]  There's another title that you could put on your forms.
[01:28:51.120 --> 01:28:52.120]  I didn't know.
[01:28:52.120 --> 01:28:53.120]  Suri Juris.
[01:28:53.120 --> 01:29:00.640]  Oh, there's another one and I'll have to email it to you because it's in West Texas with
[01:29:00.640 --> 01:29:04.880]  Patrick, but it basically says, I'm not representing myself.
[01:29:04.880 --> 01:29:05.880]  I am myself.
[01:29:05.880 --> 01:29:08.400]  Pro se is saying you're representing.
[01:29:08.400 --> 01:29:09.400]  Yeah.
[01:29:09.400 --> 01:29:14.240]  I've seen those, but in terms of the court, they have no real meaning.
[01:29:14.240 --> 01:29:17.520]  It's all going to amount to the same thing in the eyes of the court.
[01:29:17.520 --> 01:29:18.520]  Yeah.
[01:29:18.520 --> 01:29:23.480]  There's a lot of these guys that make these distinctions without a difference and I get
[01:29:23.480 --> 01:29:28.680]  frustrated with those because it focuses people on things that just don't matter.
[01:29:28.680 --> 01:29:29.680]  Okay.
[01:29:29.680 --> 01:29:32.520]  Now I've got a question for you.
[01:29:32.520 --> 01:29:42.080]  On your site, you had a class last year and you also said you were going to have a videotape.
[01:29:42.080 --> 01:29:46.680]  Is there any future classes or videotape?
[01:29:46.680 --> 01:29:49.920]  We're putting together, we have a guy who did a TV interview.
[01:29:49.920 --> 01:29:51.680]  We never did get that videotape.
[01:29:51.680 --> 01:29:52.680]  Yes.
[01:29:52.680 --> 01:29:55.880]  Sam, I'm sorry, I'm forgetting his last name.
[01:29:55.880 --> 01:30:03.760]  He does video and audio for Free Talk Alive and he came into the studio with us one night
[01:30:03.760 --> 01:30:08.520]  and filmed us while we were doing a show and we also did an interview with him the next
[01:30:08.520 --> 01:30:10.280]  day at Brave New Books.
[01:30:10.280 --> 01:30:14.980]  He's putting together a professional video for us and that should come out soon.
[01:30:14.980 --> 01:30:27.840]  We did have some video made of the seminar last year but the lighting wasn't right.
[01:30:27.840 --> 01:30:30.120]  It didn't come out that well.
[01:30:30.120 --> 01:30:35.840]  What we really want to do is we're going to do another seminar but we're going to release
[01:30:35.840 --> 01:30:37.800]  the litigation engine first.
[01:30:37.800 --> 01:30:43.520]  We have a product to hand out to people and we are going to do another seminar, another
[01:30:43.520 --> 01:30:44.520]  class for people.
[01:30:44.520 --> 01:30:45.520]  Yes.
[01:30:45.520 --> 01:30:48.240]  We have just been buried with this network.
[01:30:48.240 --> 01:30:49.240]  Yes.
[01:30:49.240 --> 01:30:59.200]  Unfortunately, I had to set up a radio network out of the blue, off the cuff, on the fly
[01:30:59.200 --> 01:31:00.880]  so to speak.
[01:31:00.880 --> 01:31:05.520]  That's not something that I really was planning on having to do in my life at this point in
[01:31:05.520 --> 01:31:06.520]  time.
[01:31:06.520 --> 01:31:09.440]  Basically, everything else got put on hold because of that.
[01:31:09.440 --> 01:31:15.360]  I understand that you always take your battles and your battle right now is to make sure
[01:31:15.360 --> 01:31:18.720]  that you get the word out to as many people as possible.
[01:31:18.720 --> 01:31:19.720]  Absolutely.
[01:31:19.720 --> 01:31:20.720]  Exactly.
[01:31:20.720 --> 01:31:21.720]  That's why we're doing what we're doing.
[01:31:21.720 --> 01:31:27.480]  The best battle we can fight is this one because then we wind up with people like you out there
[01:31:27.480 --> 01:31:29.800]  who are taking it to them.
[01:31:29.800 --> 01:31:30.800]  Okay.
[01:31:30.800 --> 01:31:32.240]  Well, thank you.
[01:31:32.240 --> 01:31:34.200]  I'll do everything I can to help you.
[01:31:34.200 --> 01:31:35.200]  Okay.
[01:31:35.200 --> 01:31:39.600]  I'm going to read Chapter 52 and thank you.
[01:31:39.600 --> 01:31:40.600]  Okay.
[01:31:40.600 --> 01:31:45.200]  Also, I have a petition for Court of Inquiry.
[01:31:45.200 --> 01:31:46.200]  I'll e-mail to you.
[01:31:46.200 --> 01:31:47.200]  All right.
[01:31:47.200 --> 01:31:48.200]  Yeah.
[01:31:48.200 --> 01:31:52.320]  Randy, we need to post all these documents up on the site too so that we're not always
[01:31:52.320 --> 01:31:53.920]  having to constantly e-mail stuff to people.
[01:31:53.920 --> 01:31:55.400]  All this is posted up there.
[01:31:55.400 --> 01:31:56.400]  Okay.
[01:31:56.400 --> 01:31:57.400]  Great.
[01:31:57.400 --> 01:31:58.400]  All right.
[01:31:58.400 --> 01:31:59.400]  Listen, Mehta, we're going to break.
[01:31:59.400 --> 01:32:00.400]  All right.
[01:32:00.400 --> 01:32:01.400]  We'll be right back.
[01:32:01.400 --> 01:32:02.400]  Bye-bye.
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[01:33:32.080 --> 01:33:38.080]  Return to creation.
[01:33:38.080 --> 01:33:44.080]  From Genesis to Revelation.
[01:33:44.080 --> 01:33:51.080]  Return to creation.
[01:33:51.080 --> 01:33:57.080]  From Genesis to Revelation.
[01:33:57.080 --> 01:34:04.080]  You pull a generation X, Y and Z. You made your Babylon to water down for we.
[01:34:04.080 --> 01:34:07.080]  We're not gonna drink tea. Babylon we could see.
[01:34:07.080 --> 01:34:10.080]  A medical war you try to kill all of we.
[01:34:10.080 --> 01:34:13.080]  You poor people we have suffer daily.
[01:34:13.080 --> 01:34:17.080]  But we both have a life money shall guide we.
[01:34:17.080 --> 01:34:20.080]  Not join your navy. Not join your army.
[01:34:20.080 --> 01:34:23.080]  So Babylon come listen carefully.
[01:34:23.080 --> 01:34:27.080]  Return to creation.
[01:34:27.080 --> 01:34:36.080]  From Genesis to Revelation.
[01:34:36.080 --> 01:34:40.080]  Return to creation.
[01:34:40.080 --> 01:34:50.080]  From Genesis to Revelation.
[01:34:50.080 --> 01:34:56.080]  You pull a generation X, Y and Z. Babylon but you're not gonna full of this your generation too.
[01:34:56.080 --> 01:35:00.080]  You said that we not blind you know so we can see.
[01:35:00.080 --> 01:35:03.080]  You're a politician then you want to be contrary.
[01:35:03.080 --> 01:35:06.080]  But I lie to them, I tell them, I tell their thinking story.
[01:35:06.080 --> 01:35:09.080]  But we both have a life man you know we really.
[01:35:09.080 --> 01:35:13.080]  And yes so Babylon that's right you can't control we.
[01:35:13.080 --> 01:35:16.080]  So feed them of something we are go fight for we.
[01:35:16.080 --> 01:35:19.080]  So you can understand by this generation what we see
[01:35:19.080 --> 01:35:22.080]  The youth is getting what they're making so angry
[01:35:22.080 --> 01:35:26.080]  For the land now you are mislead, the youth them daily
[01:35:26.080 --> 01:35:29.080]  You now teach them about the Bible, you'll see so
[01:35:29.080 --> 01:35:32.080]  He's right in true creation
[01:35:32.080 --> 01:35:36.080]  He'll book our lives with faith, faith in Him
[01:35:36.080 --> 01:35:39.080]  He'll contain our sins through revelation
[01:35:39.080 --> 01:35:42.080]  For the human being knows that you are
[01:35:42.080 --> 01:35:45.080]  Taught in true creation
[01:35:45.080 --> 01:35:48.080]  Walking through to creation
[01:35:48.080 --> 01:35:54.080]  From Genesis to Revelation
[01:35:54.080 --> 01:35:58.080]  Babylon, you know you are wrong
[01:35:58.080 --> 01:36:02.080]  Alright, we have the Father, we have the Spirit
[01:36:02.080 --> 01:36:07.080]  We have Jesus, and we also have Metta from Texas on the line
[01:36:07.080 --> 01:36:11.080]  Also Gale, okay, Randy, okay
[01:36:11.080 --> 01:36:15.080]  A couple more comments for Gale or Gale, I'm sorry for Metta
[01:36:15.080 --> 01:36:18.080]  Metta, you were about to say something before we went to break
[01:36:18.080 --> 01:36:22.080]  I've been into all your documents online
[01:36:22.080 --> 01:36:25.080]  And you have quite a few broken links
[01:36:25.080 --> 01:36:28.080]  That you might want to go in and check on
[01:36:28.080 --> 01:36:32.080]  And on Monday I have an appointment or I'm scheduled
[01:36:32.080 --> 01:36:35.080]  To go talk to the Commissioner's Court
[01:36:35.080 --> 01:36:39.080]  I sent them a letter on the 8th of January
[01:36:39.080 --> 01:36:42.080]  To say that they had a problem in their county
[01:36:42.080 --> 01:36:45.080]  That the County Sheriff and the County Attorney
[01:36:45.080 --> 01:36:48.080]  Were refusing to do their jobs in accordance with
[01:36:48.080 --> 01:36:51.080]  The Texas Code of Criminal Procedure
[01:36:51.080 --> 01:36:54.080]  And of course now I'm also going to include a County Judge
[01:36:54.080 --> 01:36:57.080]  But he tried to block me from attending this meeting
[01:36:57.080 --> 01:37:00.080]  On several occasions, but
[01:37:00.080 --> 01:37:06.080]  You might tell the County Commissioners
[01:37:06.080 --> 01:37:10.080]  That you have a constitutional right to petition the court
[01:37:10.080 --> 01:37:13.080]  For redress of grievance
[01:37:13.080 --> 01:37:19.080]  And that these officers are committing acts of misfeasance
[01:37:19.080 --> 01:37:24.080]  In that they're failing to perform a duty they're required to perform
[01:37:24.080 --> 01:37:28.080]  The police will say, we have no duty to protect you
[01:37:28.080 --> 01:37:34.080]  That's true, but they do have a duty to enforce law
[01:37:34.080 --> 01:37:37.080]  You bring the law to them, they refuse to enforce it
[01:37:37.080 --> 01:37:40.080]  They violate a duty, they deny you your right
[01:37:40.080 --> 01:37:44.080]  To petition the court for redress of grievance
[01:37:44.080 --> 01:37:49.080]  And notify the court of how you've been harmed
[01:37:49.080 --> 01:37:52.080]  And the amount that you've been harmed
[01:37:52.080 --> 01:37:56.080]  And demand that they make you whole
[01:37:56.080 --> 01:38:00.080]  That's called a tort, it's a tort letter
[01:38:00.080 --> 01:38:04.080]  And in order to sue the County
[01:38:04.080 --> 01:38:11.080]  You have to notify the County within 60 days prior to suit
[01:38:11.080 --> 01:38:14.080]  That will act as serious warning for them
[01:38:14.080 --> 01:38:20.080]  That means you, that'll tell them that you mean business
[01:38:20.080 --> 01:38:22.080]  Okay
[01:38:22.080 --> 01:38:25.080]  They know, like I said, they've always been given a letter
[01:38:25.080 --> 01:38:27.080]  Saying that we have a problem in the County
[01:38:27.080 --> 01:38:30.080]  And it does say in their local code
[01:38:30.080 --> 01:38:36.080]  That I am required to inform them before I file suit
[01:38:36.080 --> 01:38:39.080]  And I was just wondering
[01:38:39.080 --> 01:38:43.080]  Since they know and they control the purse strings
[01:38:43.080 --> 01:38:46.080]  You know, one of the provisions under local government
[01:38:46.080 --> 01:38:50.080]  Is the bond for the sheriff is on the condition
[01:38:50.080 --> 01:38:55.080]  That he enforces the state statute
[01:38:55.080 --> 01:38:57.080]  Interesting
[01:38:57.080 --> 01:38:59.080]  Did you need to notify
[01:38:59.080 --> 01:39:01.080]  The sheriff under local government
[01:39:01.080 --> 01:39:04.080]  Okay, while you're at the Commissioner's Court
[01:39:04.080 --> 01:39:07.080]  Ask them who their bonding company is
[01:39:07.080 --> 01:39:09.080]  Okay
[01:39:09.080 --> 01:39:16.080]  That'll cause the anal sphincter tightening factor
[01:39:16.080 --> 01:39:20.080]  Because if you go to the bonding company with these complaints
[01:39:20.080 --> 01:39:25.080]  They could either lose their bond rating or get it raised
[01:39:25.080 --> 01:39:28.080]  Oh, I love you
[01:39:28.080 --> 01:39:32.080]  That's going to be where their weakness is
[01:39:32.080 --> 01:39:35.080]  Well, I've already written to the Bar Association
[01:39:35.080 --> 01:39:38.080]  Against the County Attorney and two different letters
[01:39:38.080 --> 01:39:41.080]  One from Patrick from his incident and one from me from my incident
[01:39:41.080 --> 01:39:44.080]  To the Commission of Judicial Review
[01:39:44.080 --> 01:39:46.080]  And then for the bailiff
[01:39:46.080 --> 01:39:48.080]  Who wouldn't let my husband go before the grand jury
[01:39:48.080 --> 01:39:52.080]  And for the County Sheriff
[01:39:52.080 --> 01:39:56.080]  I wrote the Commission of Law Enforcement Standards and Education
[01:39:56.080 --> 01:39:57.080]  A complaint letter
[01:39:57.080 --> 01:39:59.080]  Too close
[01:39:59.080 --> 01:40:01.080]  Yes
[01:40:01.080 --> 01:40:04.080]  This is how we get to them
[01:40:04.080 --> 01:40:11.080]  This is how they find out how powerful the sovereign citizen really is
[01:40:11.080 --> 01:40:13.080]  And this is why I'm doing this show
[01:40:13.080 --> 01:40:15.080]  Is to find folks like you
[01:40:15.080 --> 01:40:19.080]  Well, I don't know where else to write unless I want to write Obama
[01:40:19.080 --> 01:40:22.080]  And say, do you want a new judge?
[01:40:22.080 --> 01:40:27.080]  Oh, wait, no, no, we can get to Obama
[01:40:27.080 --> 01:40:31.080]  You need to find a federal violation
[01:40:31.080 --> 01:40:34.080]  Besides the jury tampering?
[01:40:34.080 --> 01:40:36.080]  I think that would still be state
[01:40:36.080 --> 01:40:39.080]  On a service fraud?
[01:40:39.080 --> 01:40:42.080]  Because I expected this judge to do his job
[01:40:42.080 --> 01:40:46.080]  But he's a state official, so you're still stuck in the state
[01:40:46.080 --> 01:40:51.080]  The county is getting federal funds for grants
[01:40:51.080 --> 01:40:54.080]  Especially the Sheriff's Department
[01:40:54.080 --> 01:40:57.080]  Homeland Security has hooked up into their computers and everything
[01:40:57.080 --> 01:41:05.080]  Yeah, and I want to see the statute that authorizes them
[01:41:05.080 --> 01:41:10.080]  To be able to take funding from the feds
[01:41:10.080 --> 01:41:13.080]  Okay, because public officials, public servants
[01:41:13.080 --> 01:41:15.080]  They can't just do whatever they want
[01:41:15.080 --> 01:41:19.080]  They can only do what we authorize them to do under statute
[01:41:19.080 --> 01:41:25.080]  Personally, I don't see a law anywhere that authorizes them to take money from the feds
[01:41:25.080 --> 01:41:27.080]  I file criminal complaints against them just for that
[01:41:27.080 --> 01:41:30.080]  If I go offer the sheriff 50 bucks
[01:41:30.080 --> 01:41:31.080]  You're no kidding
[01:41:31.080 --> 01:41:32.080]  I'm going to jail
[01:41:32.080 --> 01:41:33.080]  Right
[01:41:33.080 --> 01:41:37.080]  Where do they get the authority to take money from somewhere else?
[01:41:37.080 --> 01:41:38.080]  Exactly
[01:41:38.080 --> 01:41:42.080]  The commissioner's court provides them with their budget
[01:41:42.080 --> 01:41:46.080]  Our county judge is big on that
[01:41:46.080 --> 01:41:49.080]  The one I'm filing on
[01:41:49.080 --> 01:41:52.080]  He's big on collecting federal funds?
[01:41:52.080 --> 01:41:54.080]  No, yes, putting in for grants
[01:41:54.080 --> 01:41:59.080]  I want you to understand that our county has about 1200 people in it
[01:41:59.080 --> 01:42:00.080]  That's total
[01:42:00.080 --> 01:42:02.080]  It's bigger than Bear County
[01:42:02.080 --> 01:42:08.080]  And we are like $6.5 million in the black
[01:42:08.080 --> 01:42:09.080]  Ooh
[01:42:09.080 --> 01:42:12.080]  That is outrageous
[01:42:12.080 --> 01:42:15.080]  And my property taxes went up this year
[01:42:15.080 --> 01:42:20.080]  It was for 192 acres, roughly $27 last year
[01:42:20.080 --> 01:42:22.080]  And this year it's going up a little bit
[01:42:22.080 --> 01:42:25.080]  I think about $34
[01:42:25.080 --> 01:42:28.080]  30 bucks for 30 acres?
[01:42:28.080 --> 01:42:29.080]  What's the deal?
[01:42:29.080 --> 01:42:30.080]  192 acres
[01:42:30.080 --> 01:42:34.080]  Well, you know, Randi, Metta really brings up a good point
[01:42:34.080 --> 01:42:35.080]  And this is something
[01:42:35.080 --> 01:42:39.080]  This is an issue that I've been wanting to address for a while
[01:42:39.080 --> 01:42:44.080]  About the federalization of our police and the commissioner's courts
[01:42:44.080 --> 01:42:47.080]  And the municipal courts
[01:42:47.080 --> 01:42:56.080]  And just everything, just total federalization of all local county governmental bodies, all right?
[01:42:56.080 --> 01:43:04.080]  And it's like the dangling the carrot on the stick, okay, of the Homeland Security and all the training and everything
[01:43:04.080 --> 01:43:06.080]  And I want to nip this in the bud
[01:43:06.080 --> 01:43:08.080]  This has got to go
[01:43:08.080 --> 01:43:15.080]  And I say we should start filing criminal charges against these county commissioners, against these judges, against these police
[01:43:15.080 --> 01:43:21.080]  You know, the chiefs of police and all these people that are taking federal funds
[01:43:21.080 --> 01:43:22.080]  Because where's the law?
[01:43:22.080 --> 01:43:27.080]  Where is the law that says that they can take money from the feds?
[01:43:27.080 --> 01:43:28.080]  That's a bribe
[01:43:28.080 --> 01:43:30.080]  That's a bribe by definition
[01:43:30.080 --> 01:43:31.080]  Exactly
[01:43:31.080 --> 01:43:37.080]  Let's file some criminal charges against all these public officials that are taking federal grant money
[01:43:37.080 --> 01:43:41.080]  I'll give you all this money if you'll do these things I want you to do
[01:43:41.080 --> 01:43:53.080]  Remember, under local government, they hold the purse strings and they set the policy for the employees, even for the elected ones
[01:43:53.080 --> 01:43:57.080]  You know, they don't say your hours are here or there, but they control them through the purse strings
[01:43:57.080 --> 01:43:58.080]  Yes
[01:43:58.080 --> 01:44:00.080]  That's exactly right
[01:44:00.080 --> 01:44:09.080]  And so the way to get them to file is when these employees and elected officials, our employees of the county, fail to do their jobs
[01:44:09.080 --> 01:44:19.080]  Then these county commissioners, who are our elected representatives of the citizens, do our day-to-day jobs, i.e. make sure these people do their jobs
[01:44:19.080 --> 01:44:22.080]  And that's how you go after them
[01:44:22.080 --> 01:44:23.080]  Yeah
[01:44:23.080 --> 01:44:29.080]  If they don't correct this problem, if they've been made aware of it, they are now criminally liable
[01:44:29.080 --> 01:44:48.080]  Yeah, I say we file criminal charges against the very individual that takes the check and deposits it in the bank account of the, you know, whatever the fund is of that particular agency
[01:44:48.080 --> 01:45:04.080]  All right, another thing, we're getting that paperwork together, the letter, and I'm going to pop it off Monday, requesting for the list of all the jury, people who were on the grand jury for the last two years, not just in panel, but selected
[01:45:04.080 --> 01:45:06.080]  Yeah, the jury panel
[01:45:06.080 --> 01:45:23.080]  But I'm also going into the treasurer, and I want the names of the individuals, everything else excluded, that have been paid, and what dates they were paid for grand jury duty
[01:45:23.080 --> 01:45:24.080]  Wonderful
[01:45:24.080 --> 01:45:25.080]  Even if they show up
[01:45:25.080 --> 01:45:26.080]  That's
[01:45:26.080 --> 01:45:27.080]  Something to marry up
[01:45:27.080 --> 01:45:34.080]  Yeah, those are records, there's no way they can hide, because all disbursements are open
[01:45:34.080 --> 01:45:48.080]  And I saw your open records reference, and I love that little blurb about this is a criminal and jail time, etc. I kind of plagiarized a little bit, like that whole bottom half
[01:45:48.080 --> 01:45:53.080]  Yes, good, by all means plagiarized
[01:45:53.080 --> 01:46:22.080]  As going into both those letters, when I take them in Monday, requesting those documents. Now, I was listening to you a little bit in Austin, and then I lost you. I go up to clean twice a month to pick up my son. So I got home, I missed it, but could you kind of go over again about the open records, the difference between the open records, which is what I think I'm asking for, versus what you were talking about, they can't wait 10 days
[01:46:22.080 --> 01:46:38.080]  Court records. Okay, court records are anything held by the clerk in the clerk's office, those are court records. And those records don't fall under the open records act.
[01:46:38.080 --> 01:47:05.080]  I've requested records in my latest versions of my information requests. I've taken out any reference to 552 government code or to 124 code of criminal procedure. 124 code of criminal procedure says all courts shall be public. And under that, all of the records of the court are public.
[01:47:05.080 --> 01:47:18.080]  Anything else falls under the open records act 552 government code, but I've taken both references out and put in that these are requested under the appropriate statutory statutory requirements.
[01:47:18.080 --> 01:47:36.080]  So whichever one applies, that's the one that applies. So I don't get this crapola. When I give a information request to the clerk, you can't get these because they don't fall under the open records act. Now it says whatever it falls under, give them to me anyway.
[01:47:36.080 --> 01:47:59.080]  So, but court records, 124 government code. The court under rule 12 can ask for a written request and take up to 10 days to respond. Okay, I lied to her. It's only a little one.
[01:47:59.080 --> 01:48:12.080]  Okay. It really wasn't a lie, but it's not in the code. And I told her that, you know, you can make that request, but you can't withhold the records unless you have some reason to believe that they're exempted from public disclosure.
[01:48:12.080 --> 01:48:23.080]  I kind of felt like I could adjudicate that, but actually that was kind of a whopper. She didn't know. And in the open records act, that is what it says.
[01:48:23.080 --> 01:48:40.080]  They still must present the records unless they have reason to believe that they're exempted. Now when you file an open records request, if it's something they don't want to give you, you can expect them to ask for an opinion from the attorney general.
[01:48:40.080 --> 01:49:03.080]  So as a matter of practice, I tend to ask for one type of record in a request. If I want more than one type of record, I'll give different requests because if it's all in one, they'll withhold everything waiting for the attorney general's opinion on one of the items.
[01:49:03.080 --> 01:49:18.080]  So now they're each one separate. So unless they have a specific objection to a record in a document, they have to produce it. And here's the other deal.
[01:49:18.080 --> 01:49:43.080]  The custodian can withhold the record if they have reason to believe the records are exempted. But the 552 requires that after an examination of the attorney general's opinions, if there is no adjudication, then they can make the request.
[01:49:43.080 --> 01:50:01.080]  If there exists a, if there's a pre-existing determination, they may not withhold. So if they ask for an opinion from the state attorney general when there is a pre-existing determination, I file criminally against them immediately.
[01:50:01.080 --> 01:50:22.080]  Or if they send me a letter back like I just got from Cherokee County when I demanded all of the records collected, assembled, maintained by the department that are specifically referenced by Article 1730 Code of Criminal Procedure from the first day of November 2008 to the last day of January 2009.
[01:50:22.080 --> 01:50:25.080]  That's real clear, real specific.
[01:50:25.080 --> 01:50:37.080]  He sent me a letter asking me to clarify. Non-responsive. Just like I didn't get the letter, I'll just file against him.
[01:50:37.080 --> 01:50:41.080]  He's doing the standard song and dance.
[01:50:41.080 --> 01:50:48.080]  The records I requested are specifically made open by Article 124 Government Code.
[01:50:48.080 --> 01:51:02.080]  If he is holding them, he's the district attorney, county attorney, if he's holding those records, they're not attorney, prosecutor records, they're court records.
[01:51:02.080 --> 01:51:07.080]  And they're commanded to be open for public inspection.
[01:51:07.080 --> 01:51:20.080]  They want to claim that they're a work product of the prosecutor attorney. No, they're felonies. That's what they are. If you got them, you're committing felonies, bubba.
[01:51:20.080 --> 01:51:23.080]  It's called tampering with a government document.
[01:51:23.080 --> 01:51:26.080]  Because the clerk doesn't have them, I looked.
[01:51:26.080 --> 01:51:37.080]  Now, it's okay for the prosecutor to have them if the clerk also has them, but he or she can't have them to the exclusion of the clerk. That's tampering with the government documents. Felony in Texas.
[01:51:37.080 --> 01:51:39.080]  And he already knows where I'm going.
[01:51:39.080 --> 01:51:51.080]  Of course, and I got the county prosecutor in Williamson County to cop to that felony right in his own office in front of me and Randy and a whole bunch of other people, too.
[01:51:51.080 --> 01:51:53.080]  Yeah, she grilled him pretty good.
[01:51:53.080 --> 01:51:59.080]  Yeah, he admitted that he had documents directly from the magistrate and they weren't filed with the clerk.
[01:51:59.080 --> 01:52:08.080]  Yes. Okay. So when you make your request, if you look at my latest blanks on my site, oh, I don't even know if I uploaded them.
[01:52:08.080 --> 01:52:10.080]  I'll have to do that.
[01:52:10.080 --> 01:52:22.080]  I'll update, update, upload my latest one. But look at my complaint. If it has a reference to 552 government code, take that out and replace it with any applicable code.
[01:52:22.080 --> 01:52:24.080]  Okay.
[01:52:24.080 --> 01:52:31.080]  That way there's no open records, court records, crapola from them.
[01:52:31.080 --> 01:52:35.080]  Okay. And take out that one about the jail time.
[01:52:35.080 --> 01:52:38.080]  No, that's still a crime in either case.
[01:52:38.080 --> 01:52:41.080]  Okay. I'll just take out the reference to that one.
[01:52:41.080 --> 01:52:50.080]  Yeah, to 552 government code. If it falls under court records, the accusation is official oppression.
[01:52:50.080 --> 01:52:59.080]  The Open Records Act calls it official misconduct, but it still falls under the same statute.
[01:52:59.080 --> 01:53:01.080]  Okay.
[01:53:01.080 --> 01:53:07.080]  So either case, you get to invoke screws. They're screwed.
[01:53:07.080 --> 01:53:09.080]  Okay. Well, thank you.
[01:53:09.080 --> 01:53:11.080]  Okay. You're welcome.
[01:53:11.080 --> 01:53:15.080]  Bye-bye.
[01:53:15.080 --> 01:53:22.080]  Well, Randy, this is a new twist. We're coming up to the end of the show. We don't have any more callers.
[01:53:22.080 --> 01:53:24.080]  That's the first time that's happened in a long time.
[01:53:24.080 --> 01:53:35.080]  I know. Well, callers, listen, if you guys want to call in, ladies too, 512-646-1984. Got about five minutes left.
[01:53:35.080 --> 01:53:39.080]  Yeah, I can kind of close out on back on Randall's count.
[01:53:39.080 --> 01:53:45.080]  Yeah. I was going to say, why don't you go over what happened up in the panhandle?
[01:53:45.080 --> 01:53:47.080]  Yeah. Randall County was...
[01:53:47.080 --> 01:53:49.080]  Randall County.
[01:53:49.080 --> 01:53:58.080]  It was one of the most fun that I've done actually. I could not believe how these officers responded to me.
[01:53:58.080 --> 01:54:01.080]  I don't see how anything could be more fun than Secret Agent Blue Tie.
[01:54:01.080 --> 01:54:04.080]  Okay. Well, yeah.
[01:54:04.080 --> 01:54:08.080]  Let me explain that one for the folks that haven't heard it.
[01:54:08.080 --> 01:54:23.080]  Deborah and I were in Philadelphia, and we were looking at these raids that IRS, ATF, FBI, and federal marshals are doing
[01:54:23.080 --> 01:54:32.080]  because I had some friends here in Dallas area that they had no litigation against them of any kind.
[01:54:32.080 --> 01:54:40.080]  And then one day the feds come in and raided them and took their computers and guns and coins and dispirited.
[01:54:40.080 --> 01:54:49.080]  There never has been any litigation against them. And I got to looking at that and I'm wondering what the heck's going on here.
[01:54:49.080 --> 01:54:51.080]  Sounds like armed robbery to me.
[01:54:51.080 --> 01:54:55.080]  That's what it sounded like. So I got to looking at it and we went to...
[01:54:55.080 --> 01:55:02.080]  We were in Philadelphia and I have a friend there that I was trying to help and he was afraid he was going to get raided by the IRS.
[01:55:02.080 --> 01:55:18.080]  So I went and did some research. We went to the federal clerk and I asked for the cause numbers of all warrants that have been issued and sealed.
[01:55:18.080 --> 01:55:23.080]  And he said, oh, I can't give you those.
[01:55:23.080 --> 01:55:31.080]  I said, okay, I want to see the statutory authorization that authorizes you not to give me those.
[01:55:31.080 --> 01:55:36.080]  He said, oh, no, no, that's not it. I don't have them.
[01:55:36.080 --> 01:55:40.080]  Wait a minute, you don't have them? He said, no, I don't have them.
[01:55:40.080 --> 01:55:45.080]  Well, when a warrants issued, do you issue a cause number? He said, yes, we do.
[01:55:45.080 --> 01:55:49.080]  Do you have a special set of cause numbers for warrants?
[01:55:49.080 --> 01:55:55.080]  Well, no. So you just issue a regular cause number. Yes, we do.
[01:55:55.080 --> 01:55:58.080]  And you don't have the cause number.
[01:55:58.080 --> 01:56:03.080]  And in the meantime, I had kind of explained to him what I thought was going on.
[01:56:03.080 --> 01:56:06.080]  So I needed to be able to find these.
[01:56:06.080 --> 01:56:10.080]  And he got a little kind of a grin on his face like he agreed with me.
[01:56:10.080 --> 01:56:19.080]  So when I asked him about the cause numbers, you issue a cause number, but if I want to see it, it's not there.
[01:56:19.080 --> 01:56:28.080]  He looked to one side, looked to the other side, and he looked back at me and said, no, the cause number is not there.
[01:56:28.080 --> 01:56:31.080]  I know. Wait, we have a couple of callers on the line.
[01:56:31.080 --> 01:56:33.080]  Okay, let me finish this quickly.
[01:56:33.080 --> 01:56:39.080]  Okay, I'm going to cut the music out. Okay, we're coming down to the end of the show, but go ahead.
[01:56:39.080 --> 01:56:42.080]  Okay, I'll show a couple of minutes. All right, go ahead. Go ahead.
[01:56:42.080 --> 01:56:50.080]  And then I asked him, I said, well, so if a warrant is sealed, they remove the cause number.
[01:56:50.080 --> 01:56:58.080]  And he looked to one side, he looked to the other side, looked back, and he said, I don't have the number.
[01:56:58.080 --> 01:57:06.080]  I grinned real big. He grinned real big. I left. This is what I think they're doing.
[01:57:06.080 --> 01:57:12.080]  You get a bunch of unscrupulous officers, they go down the list of cause numbers, they find one missing.
[01:57:12.080 --> 01:57:20.080]  They go make up a warrant, put that cause number on it, fill it all out, go to the police department,
[01:57:20.080 --> 01:57:25.080]  and show them this warrant and say, we need you to provide security.
[01:57:25.080 --> 01:57:29.080]  Well, they're feds, so they provide security.
[01:57:29.080 --> 01:57:33.080]  If they have a question, they'll call the clerk, and the clerk will tell them, well, we don't have this cause number,
[01:57:33.080 --> 01:57:37.080]  and that generally means that the warrant is sealed.
[01:57:37.080 --> 01:57:45.080]  So they say, okay. They go out and provide security while the feds come in, steal everything you got, and they just disappear.
[01:57:45.080 --> 01:57:50.080]  So I wrote a letter to every U.S. magistrate in Pennsylvania asking for the cause numbers
[01:57:50.080 --> 01:57:56.080]  of all of the warrants they issued that had been subsequently executed
[01:57:56.080 --> 01:58:00.080]  so that I could petition the district court for writ of mandamus to order them to come before them
[01:58:00.080 --> 01:58:03.080]  so cause why they're still being sealed.
[01:58:03.080 --> 01:58:09.080]  Because I believe that there were some unscrupulous officers out there stealing from people.
[01:58:09.080 --> 01:58:16.080]  And we were going down to the agencies, and I was talking to an FBI agent, and asked him his name.
[01:58:16.080 --> 01:58:19.080]  I'm sorry, callers, we're coming to the end of the show.
[01:58:19.080 --> 01:58:24.080]  I wanted callers to call in, and they called in, but Randy was finished in the store.
[01:58:24.080 --> 01:58:28.080]  But now we're at the end, so Randy, you got about 30 seconds, so hurry up.
[01:58:28.080 --> 01:58:31.080]  So I asked him his name, and he ducked his head down, and he said,
[01:58:31.080 --> 01:58:35.080]  we're not allowed to identify ourselves, and he had on this garish blue tie.
[01:58:35.080 --> 01:58:38.080]  Yeah, it was horrible, secret agent blue tie.
[01:58:38.080 --> 01:58:41.080]  So I said, what do we call you? Do we have secret police now?
[01:58:41.080 --> 01:58:43.080]  What do I call you, secret agent blue tie?
[01:58:43.080 --> 01:58:44.080]  Exactly.
[01:58:44.080 --> 01:58:47.080]  And Debra nearly fell out of the seat.
[01:58:47.080 --> 01:58:51.080]  No, he nearly fell out of the seat when I was laughing at her.
[01:58:51.080 --> 01:58:54.080]  All right, quickly, Aaron.
[01:58:54.080 --> 01:58:55.080]  Oh, hi guys.
[01:58:55.080 --> 01:58:59.080]  You got about 10 seconds, 20 seconds to make a comment.
[01:58:59.080 --> 01:59:03.080]  Funny story, a guy keeps getting tickets, having too dark of window tint.
[01:59:03.080 --> 01:59:05.080]  The cop pulls him over.
[01:59:05.080 --> 01:59:08.080]  I told him, why are you rolling your windows up so you can measure it?
[01:59:08.080 --> 01:59:10.080]  Okay, all right, we got to go.
[01:59:10.080 --> 01:59:12.080]  I'm sorry, we're at the end of the show.
[01:59:12.080 --> 01:59:14.080]  Thank you for calling in.
[01:59:14.080 --> 01:59:16.080]  This is the rule of law.
[01:59:16.080 --> 01:59:26.080]  We'll be back Monday.
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