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[00:00.000 --> 00:04.400] He was an investigator for the DA, so they sent him out to talk to me, and I told him,
[00:04.400 --> 00:08.200] hello, my name's Randall Kelton. He said, yeah, I know who you are.
[00:08.200 --> 00:11.960] Oh, you know who I am? Have you arrested me?
[00:11.960 --> 00:16.680] No, but I threw you out of the courthouse once when you were trying to get to the grand jury.
[00:16.680 --> 00:20.160] Oh, that was you?
[00:20.160 --> 00:25.600] But what I didn't know is Robert Davis is standing behind me.
[00:25.600 --> 00:31.440] And Robert Davis had sued him in the federal court in his personal capacity.
[00:31.440 --> 00:36.400] Oops! So got pretty interesting, and I left that day, and then I come back.
[00:36.400 --> 00:43.000] So this guy knows exactly who I am, and he knows what I've been doing over the years,
[00:43.000 --> 00:48.640] that this thing of getting to the grand jury has been an ongoing issue with me.
[00:48.640 --> 00:54.120] And that's what I told the prosecutor, that there's a problem in Texas, and I'm here to fix it.
[00:54.120 --> 01:00.640] And Franklin, I'm setting you up. I'm giving you an opportunity to do the wrong thing.
[01:00.640 --> 01:04.400] And then we're all going to go to the federal courts, you and I.
[01:04.400 --> 01:07.840] And we'll get the courts to rule on these issues.
[01:07.840 --> 01:18.360] And clearly, they were concerned, but they would not back down.
[01:18.360 --> 01:24.080] They insisted on blocking my access to the grand jury, and they called a sheriff's deputy up.
[01:24.080 --> 01:25.720] I turn around, and there's a sheriff's deputy.
[01:25.720 --> 01:31.760] Oh, wow! Boy, am I glad to see you. I was just fixing to call you.
[01:31.760 --> 01:38.680] And I made him take a statement where I accused the district attorney and these two deputies
[01:38.680 --> 01:48.040] of official misconduct by blocking my access to the grand jury and first degree felony aggravated assault.
[01:48.040 --> 01:52.960] But I made a mistake. I didn't have the criminal complaints already made up.
[01:53.000 --> 01:58.480] I actually had one for the bailiff, and I forgot about it in the heat of the moment.
[01:58.480 --> 02:06.400] So now I'll make up these complaints and send them to the district judge
[02:06.400 --> 02:17.120] and demand that the district judge send me a copy of the warrant that he creates
[02:17.120 --> 02:21.320] consequent to these criminal accusations.
[02:21.360 --> 02:29.280] So when I don't get those complaints in response to my public record request,
[02:29.280 --> 02:36.600] that gives me standing to come back after the judge and sue him personally for shielding them from prosecution.
[02:36.600 --> 02:40.200] And I'm going to charge him with first degree felony aggravated assault,
[02:40.200 --> 02:43.760] because these two guys were prominently displaying deadly weapons.
[02:43.760 --> 02:51.120] And the sheriff's deputy saw him doing it, and he refused to arrest him.
[02:51.160 --> 02:53.080] It really went well.
[02:54.720 --> 03:01.200] These guys were up on their tippy toes, and their problem was I had two witnesses back there.
[03:03.280 --> 03:10.520] And one of them, one of the investigators knew real well because he's being sued by him,
[03:10.520 --> 03:16.480] because at the time of the suit, the circumstances that led to the suit,
[03:16.480 --> 03:18.600] he was a sergeant on the sheriff's department.
[03:19.600 --> 03:23.600] And I suspect that's why he's not on the sheriff's department anymore,
[03:23.600 --> 03:26.680] because Robert sued him in the federal court.
[03:26.680 --> 03:33.120] And the guys that can't make it out on the street, they send them as investigators,
[03:33.120 --> 03:35.280] where you can keep them under control.
[03:35.280 --> 03:41.320] So he went out as a sergeant and created a federal lawsuit against the sheriff's department.
[03:41.320 --> 03:46.920] Now he's out of there, and now he's an investigator up in Montague County,
[03:47.240 --> 03:52.400] 60 miles from where he was, from West County.
[03:53.960 --> 04:00.520] So it looks like they know they have a problem, and they really, really do,
[04:00.520 --> 04:05.480] because now I'm going to sue the district attorney, the assistant district attorney,
[04:05.480 --> 04:12.680] in her personal capacity for exerting or purporting to exert authority she didn't have.
[04:12.680 --> 04:19.360] And I got all these witnesses where I gave her absolutely fair warning.
[04:19.360 --> 04:22.560] I gave her code, and she didn't want to hear it.
[04:22.560 --> 04:26.080] And apparently she was a nice lady.
[04:26.080 --> 04:32.080] She knew Robert because she was in court with Robert when he filed a habeas,
[04:32.080 --> 04:36.240] and she used to work for Wise County, and when he filed a habeas in Wise County.
[04:36.240 --> 04:42.360] So she knew who he was as well, and none of them knew who Scott was,
[04:42.360 --> 04:45.040] and he wasn't telling them.
[04:45.040 --> 04:55.000] So I didn't get to the grand jury yet, but I did get a fire started.
[04:55.000 --> 04:59.000] Now I'm going to sue the district attorney and let her go to the federal court
[04:59.000 --> 05:00.840] and explain her behavior.
[05:00.840 --> 05:03.200] Well, first I'll sue her in the state court,
[05:03.200 --> 05:11.840] and from there we will appeal up to the federal court, and we'll get some answers.
[05:11.880 --> 05:13.880] Brett, you should have been there. It was great fun.
[05:13.880 --> 05:20.720] It was almost as much fun as what we did in Travis County when I told that judge.
[05:20.720 --> 05:24.440] It does sound a whole lot more fun than what I was doing today.
[05:24.440 --> 05:26.920] I was sitting in a dentist chair.
[05:26.920 --> 05:35.520] Oh, better you than me. I hope everything came out okay.
[05:35.520 --> 05:40.440] So what did they do? Did they rip something out?
[05:40.520 --> 05:45.520] I don't know. They just drill around down there.
[05:45.520 --> 05:47.640] You know how it is with dentists.
[05:47.640 --> 05:52.120] They run all this heavy equipment in your mouth.
[05:52.120 --> 05:53.720] A jackhammer?
[05:53.720 --> 05:58.120] Yeah, prop your mouth open about seven feet wide
[05:58.120 --> 06:00.920] so they could get all their equipment down in there.
[06:00.920 --> 06:04.320] Well, I don't have to worry about that anymore.
[06:04.320 --> 06:10.120] If they want to work on my teeth, I'll just take it out and give them to them.
[06:10.120 --> 06:12.920] Sometimes they come out at the inopportune times.
[06:12.920 --> 06:19.400] I was sitting in a restaurant on the Colorado River in downtown Austin
[06:19.400 --> 06:28.000] talking to Mary Krennic, and I sneezed and my teeth bounced across the table.
[06:28.000 --> 06:30.800] That's a way to impress people.
[06:30.800 --> 06:33.800] That was difficult.
[06:33.800 --> 06:37.800] Anyway, so what do you have for us today?
[06:37.880 --> 06:42.480] Well, that definitely sounds like a lot of fun.
[06:42.480 --> 06:46.480] It would have been a good place to be.
[06:46.480 --> 06:52.280] So me, what I'm looking into right now has to do with several things.
[06:52.280 --> 06:58.280] But the one on the top of my mind right now when you're asking is this flock safety.
[06:58.280 --> 07:03.080] Basically a surveillance network of cameras
[07:03.160 --> 07:08.960] that's been set up to monitor and track and log all sorts of things.
[07:08.960 --> 07:12.680] Well, you know that recently I was at a crypto conference
[07:12.680 --> 07:14.680] and learning some things about that.
[07:14.680 --> 07:19.680] And one of the presenters was very focused on privacy
[07:19.680 --> 07:22.560] and the importance of our rights to privacy.
[07:22.560 --> 07:31.360] And this presenter demonstrated how very easy it is
[07:31.360 --> 07:37.040] to get access to these surveillance cameras,
[07:37.040 --> 07:41.240] which are intended, they're touted as being,
[07:41.240 --> 07:45.760] oh, this is going to be a deterrent to crime because now we can record license plates
[07:45.760 --> 07:49.640] as they come and go from our city and so forth.
[07:49.640 --> 07:52.960] But actually, they're recording much more than that.
[07:52.960 --> 07:56.840] They have the cameras doing automatic AI,
[07:56.840 --> 08:00.240] zooming in on faces and doing facial recognition.
[08:00.240 --> 08:04.320] They have various radios of various frequencies
[08:04.320 --> 08:09.640] that are capturing and trying to contact and talk to every Wi-Fi capable
[08:09.640 --> 08:16.320] and Bluetooth capable device, including your phones and your tablets.
[08:16.320 --> 08:19.120] And if you have a smartwatch or a Fitbit,
[08:19.120 --> 08:23.840] it wants to know about these connections that you have
[08:23.920 --> 08:34.120] and it will uniquely identify your kids' tablets and earbuds
[08:34.120 --> 08:36.720] and everything else that's in the car
[08:36.720 --> 08:42.720] and make extensive detailed logging of who,
[08:42.720 --> 08:46.720] where, when it's soccer practice on Tuesdays,
[08:46.720 --> 08:49.520] the pattern is that the kids are in the car.
[08:49.520 --> 08:53.040] And what was this guy doing over here two counties over?
[08:53.040 --> 08:58.120] There's a whole lot of surveillance going on and I'm not for it.
[08:58.120 --> 09:01.440] So that's what's on my radar right now.
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[11:12.520 --> 11:28.520] Look what we got, we asked the Christian.
[11:28.520 --> 11:33.520] Wonder what they're hiding, they don't have the answer.
[11:33.920 --> 11:38.920] Open up our eyes, we asked the Christian.
[11:38.920 --> 11:43.920] Look what we got, and they don't have the answer.
[11:43.920 --> 11:45.920] I'm sleeping, sleeping tight.
[11:45.920 --> 11:46.920] They might talk about issues,
[11:46.920 --> 11:49.920] but see Lord, how they want we to take it easy.
[11:49.920 --> 11:51.920] They might talk way too politically
[11:51.920 --> 11:54.920] and then get mad and angry.
[11:54.920 --> 11:59.920] But they're not standing up and fight and fight for the freedom and be free.
[12:00.320 --> 12:02.320] And they like them love slavery
[12:02.320 --> 12:04.320] and get handouts from the government.
[12:04.320 --> 12:08.320] Look what we got, we asked the Christian.
[12:08.320 --> 12:13.320] Wonder what they're hiding, they don't have the answer.
[12:13.320 --> 12:18.320] Open up our eyes, we asked the Christian.
[12:18.320 --> 12:23.320] Look what we got, and they don't have the answer.
[12:23.320 --> 12:25.320] I'm sleeping, sleeping tight.
[12:25.720 --> 12:27.720] They're tearing me, they're tearing you,
[12:27.720 --> 12:29.720] they're tearing me Lord, they're tearing the country.
[12:29.720 --> 12:31.720] They're tearing me, they're tearing me,
[12:31.720 --> 12:34.720] they're tearing you and they're tearing the country.
[12:34.720 --> 12:36.720] They don't tear up the constitution,
[12:36.720 --> 12:39.720] they're ripping trees, they're giving them out.
[12:39.720 --> 12:41.720] You don't see how this country,
[12:41.720 --> 12:44.720] how they lead we, they lead we you see.
[12:44.720 --> 12:46.720] Like we're blind and we're crazy,
[12:46.720 --> 12:49.720] they're leading with the destruction you see.
[12:49.720 --> 12:51.720] Nuclear weapon and big gun,
[12:51.720 --> 12:54.720] they're pointing at the country all on me.
[12:55.120 --> 12:57.120] They're tearing me, they're tearing you,
[12:57.120 --> 12:59.120] they're tearing me Lord.
[13:25.120 --> 13:28.120] And if I had any class, I wouldn't bring that up.
[13:32.120 --> 13:35.120] We were talking about the FLOC safety
[13:35.120 --> 13:37.120] and the problem is not FLOC safety.
[13:37.120 --> 13:39.120] FLOC is one of the brands
[13:39.120 --> 13:43.120] and there are other brands, competitors.
[13:43.120 --> 13:46.120] The problem is not the tool.
[13:46.120 --> 13:50.120] FLOC safety is a software?
[13:51.120 --> 13:53.120] No, they're the company that produces
[13:53.520 --> 13:56.520] these little cameras that sit up on a pole
[13:56.520 --> 13:59.520] with a little solar panel above it
[13:59.520 --> 14:01.520] and they kind of tuck it around.
[14:01.520 --> 14:04.520] They usually put it right behind
[14:04.520 --> 14:06.520] a city limit sign
[14:06.520 --> 14:09.520] or right behind a speed limit sign
[14:09.520 --> 14:11.520] where nobody can notice it
[14:11.520 --> 14:14.520] and then it's pointed at the traffic
[14:14.520 --> 14:16.520] that's passing by there.
[14:16.520 --> 14:19.520] But they've got them in lots of other places too.
[14:19.520 --> 14:21.520] They put them in playgrounds
[14:21.920 --> 14:23.920] and they have AI zooming in on children
[14:23.920 --> 14:27.920] and doing the AI recognition facial stuff on the children
[14:27.920 --> 14:32.920] and it's really out of control.
[14:32.920 --> 14:35.920] There has to be a way to screw that up.
[14:35.920 --> 14:38.920] I know there were guys who were selling
[14:38.920 --> 14:41.920] covers to go over your license plate
[14:41.920 --> 14:46.920] that would diffract light from the plate
[14:46.920 --> 14:48.920] so they couldn't read it.
[14:48.920 --> 14:49.920] That's true.
[14:49.920 --> 14:52.920] They passed laws against it.
[14:52.920 --> 14:53.920] Yep.
[14:53.920 --> 14:55.920] So how can we?
[14:55.920 --> 14:57.920] It's a very different thing.
[14:57.920 --> 14:59.920] The scope is completely different.
[14:59.920 --> 15:02.920] Being able to look at license plates
[15:02.920 --> 15:05.920] in those toll booths
[15:05.920 --> 15:08.920] I would consider that as a legitimate
[15:10.920 --> 15:14.920] way to use technology.
[15:14.920 --> 15:18.920] It's not doing logging
[15:18.920 --> 15:20.920] and identification
[15:20.920 --> 15:22.920] and monitoring, tracking
[15:22.920 --> 15:25.920] and letting anybody without a warrant
[15:25.920 --> 15:28.920] go log in there and just search
[15:29.920 --> 15:32.920] and find where has Randall Kelton been
[15:32.920 --> 15:34.920] in the last whatever.
[15:34.920 --> 15:37.920] They can just go back in time and search
[15:38.920 --> 15:40.920] and find all these different cameras
[15:40.920 --> 15:42.920] that your car has passed.
[15:42.920 --> 15:44.920] Open up little side bars
[15:44.920 --> 15:47.920] that tell all of the devices that you had
[15:47.920 --> 15:49.920] and all of the people
[15:49.920 --> 15:52.920] who have been identified as being associated
[15:52.920 --> 15:54.920] with those devices.
[15:54.920 --> 15:56.920] It is just...
[15:56.920 --> 16:00.920] Are you familiar with the term panopticon?
[16:00.920 --> 16:02.920] It's very dystopian.
[16:02.920 --> 16:04.920] I know the term, but I've heard the term
[16:04.920 --> 16:06.920] but I don't know what it means.
[16:08.920 --> 16:11.920] It's when surveillance goes wrong
[16:11.920 --> 16:15.920] and you're not limited to
[16:15.920 --> 16:17.920] just what's needed for the surveillance.
[16:17.920 --> 16:19.920] It's wide open viewing
[16:19.920 --> 16:21.920] of every part of your life
[16:22.920 --> 16:24.920] that's available for all the fishing expeditions.
[16:24.920 --> 16:26.920] That any of these...
[16:26.920 --> 16:28.920] What do they call them?
[16:28.920 --> 16:30.920] Overly eager officers
[16:30.920 --> 16:32.920] that want to ferret out crime.
[16:34.920 --> 16:36.920] It's gone so far beyond.
[16:36.920 --> 16:38.920] The panopticon is a design
[16:38.920 --> 16:40.920] of an industrial building
[16:40.920 --> 16:43.920] with an inbuilt system of control
[16:43.920 --> 16:46.920] originated by the English philosopher
[16:46.920 --> 16:49.920] and social theorist Jeremy Bentham.
[16:51.920 --> 16:53.920] Okay, anyway.
[16:53.920 --> 16:55.920] There's got to be...
[16:55.920 --> 16:57.920] I'm a political engineer
[16:57.920 --> 16:59.920] and I look at this and think
[16:59.920 --> 17:01.920] there's got to be a way
[17:01.920 --> 17:03.920] to screw them around.
[17:03.920 --> 17:06.920] One thing they cannot control
[17:06.920 --> 17:09.920] is low-level broadcast.
[17:10.920 --> 17:12.920] We had a CB guy
[17:12.920 --> 17:14.920] next to us years ago
[17:14.920 --> 17:16.920] and he had a 100 watt linear.
[17:16.920 --> 17:19.920] And he's blasting right across my TV.
[17:19.920 --> 17:21.920] He's blowing right through
[17:21.920 --> 17:23.920] my internal Faraday screens
[17:23.920 --> 17:25.920] because his power is so high
[17:25.920 --> 17:27.920] that the Faraday screen
[17:27.920 --> 17:29.920] can't keep him out.
[17:29.920 --> 17:33.920] And I called the FCC
[17:33.920 --> 17:35.920] and they said
[17:35.920 --> 17:37.920] your problem, not his problem.
[17:38.920 --> 17:40.920] If you're receiving something
[17:40.920 --> 17:42.920] you don't want to receive
[17:42.920 --> 17:44.920] then it's up to you
[17:44.920 --> 17:46.920] to filter your system
[17:46.920 --> 17:48.920] to where you can't receive it.
[17:48.920 --> 17:51.920] So what if I put a 100 watt linear
[17:51.920 --> 17:53.920] in my car
[17:53.920 --> 17:55.920] and set it to receive
[17:55.920 --> 17:57.920] an input signal
[17:57.920 --> 18:01.920] and do what the French did
[18:01.920 --> 18:03.920] with the exhaust?
[18:03.920 --> 18:06.920] Oh, this was back in the 50s.
[18:07.920 --> 18:09.920] The exhaust sends out
[18:09.920 --> 18:11.920] this pressure wave
[18:11.920 --> 18:13.920] and they set up
[18:13.920 --> 18:15.920] a set of speakers
[18:15.920 --> 18:17.920] that would receive the sound
[18:17.920 --> 18:21.920] would respond to the sound waves
[18:21.920 --> 18:24.920] flip the sound wave 180 degrees
[18:24.920 --> 18:26.920] and push it right back out.
[18:26.920 --> 18:28.920] So the sound wave
[18:28.920 --> 18:30.920] comes out of the engine
[18:30.920 --> 18:32.920] and it hits the speaker
[18:32.920 --> 18:34.920] or the microphone
[18:34.920 --> 18:36.920] and the speaker are the same thing.
[18:36.920 --> 18:38.920] One's just bigger than the other
[18:38.920 --> 18:40.920] and in one you send power to it
[18:40.920 --> 18:42.920] in the other you take power out of it.
[18:42.920 --> 18:44.920] If you set up to take a speaker
[18:44.920 --> 18:46.920] and bang sound against it
[18:46.920 --> 18:48.920] inside the speaker
[18:48.920 --> 18:50.920] there's a magnet
[18:50.920 --> 18:52.920] and hooked to the
[18:52.920 --> 18:54.920] fabric of the speaker
[18:54.920 --> 18:56.920] is a little coil
[18:56.920 --> 18:58.920] that wraps around that magnet.
[18:58.920 --> 19:00.920] And when the
[19:00.920 --> 19:02.920] fabric moves
[19:02.920 --> 19:04.920] from sound
[19:04.920 --> 19:06.920] it moves that little coil
[19:06.920 --> 19:08.920] back and forth.
[19:08.920 --> 19:10.920] And when you move a conductor
[19:10.920 --> 19:12.920] through a magnetic field
[19:16.920 --> 19:18.920] electricity is produced
[19:18.920 --> 19:20.920] or is induced
[19:20.920 --> 19:22.920] into the line
[19:22.920 --> 19:24.920] and that's how a microphone works.
[19:24.920 --> 19:26.920] I'm talking into this diaphragm
[19:26.920 --> 19:28.920] the diaphragm moves
[19:28.920 --> 19:30.920] and it creates
[19:30.920 --> 19:32.920] electromagnetic waves that the system picks up
[19:32.920 --> 19:34.920] amplifies them
[19:34.920 --> 19:36.920] and sends them to the speaker
[19:36.920 --> 19:38.920] and then instead of that little coil
[19:38.920 --> 19:40.920] moving
[19:40.920 --> 19:42.920] being moved by the
[19:42.920 --> 19:44.920] cloth
[19:44.920 --> 19:46.920] of the speaker
[19:46.920 --> 19:48.920] the coil itself
[19:48.920 --> 19:50.920] changes its
[19:52.920 --> 19:54.920] electromagnetic
[19:54.920 --> 19:56.920] force around it
[19:56.920 --> 19:58.920] so that it moves toward the negative end of the speaker
[19:58.920 --> 20:00.920] the positive end of the speaker
[20:00.920 --> 20:02.920] and it moves the cloth back and forth
[20:02.920 --> 20:04.920] and makes sound.
[20:04.920 --> 20:06.920] So what they did
[20:06.920 --> 20:08.920] was they took that sound
[20:08.920 --> 20:10.920] blasted out of the engine
[20:10.920 --> 20:12.920] ran it into a microphone
[20:12.920 --> 20:14.920] flipped it over 90 degrees
[20:14.920 --> 20:16.920] 180 degrees
[20:16.920 --> 20:18.920] and sent it right back
[20:18.920 --> 20:20.920] and it cancelled it
[20:20.920 --> 20:22.920] so I should be able to do that to these guys.
[20:22.920 --> 20:24.920] And their problem is
[20:24.920 --> 20:26.920] if you're receiving
[20:26.920 --> 20:28.920] something I'm transmitting
[20:28.920 --> 20:30.920] your problem
[20:30.920 --> 20:32.920] not my problem
[20:32.920 --> 20:34.920] as long as I'm not over
[20:34.920 --> 20:36.920] like 50 watts.
[20:38.920 --> 20:40.920] So you point your camera at me
[20:42.920 --> 20:44.920] I can't do camera.
[20:44.920 --> 20:46.920] Right.
[20:46.920 --> 20:48.920] You could mess up
[20:48.920 --> 20:50.920] all of their attempts to
[20:50.920 --> 20:52.920] connect to your
[20:52.920 --> 20:54.920] devices
[20:54.920 --> 20:56.920] but you couldn't
[20:58.920 --> 21:00.920] optically
[21:00.920 --> 21:02.920] change what
[21:02.920 --> 21:04.920] their camera is seeing.
[21:04.920 --> 21:06.920] They're using infrared and visible light.
[21:06.920 --> 21:08.920] They're using both cameras.
[21:08.920 --> 21:10.920] So if they connect to my device
[21:12.920 --> 21:14.920] can my device tell
[21:14.920 --> 21:16.920] that they connected to me?
[21:18.920 --> 21:20.920] It's not a connection exactly.
[21:20.920 --> 21:22.920] They
[21:22.920 --> 21:24.920] log and monitor
[21:24.920 --> 21:26.920] it is a connection. It's a back and forth
[21:26.920 --> 21:28.920] handshake that happens.
[21:28.920 --> 21:30.920] So that's what I'm talking about.
[21:30.920 --> 21:32.920] The handshake.
[21:32.920 --> 21:34.920] But your device doesn't have anything
[21:34.920 --> 21:36.920] that will pop up on there and say
[21:36.920 --> 21:38.920] because it's not using
[21:38.920 --> 21:40.920] any Bonjour protocol
[21:40.920 --> 21:42.920] or anything that's a standard way
[21:42.920 --> 21:44.920] for your device to recognize
[21:44.920 --> 21:46.920] that
[21:46.920 --> 21:48.920] a connection is
[21:48.920 --> 21:50.920] finishing.
[21:50.920 --> 21:52.920] The connection starts.
[21:52.920 --> 21:54.920] There's packets going back and forth
[21:54.920 --> 21:56.920] but then it never completes anything.
[21:56.920 --> 21:58.920] Hey, are you going to jump off the cliff?
[21:58.920 --> 22:00.920] Absolutely.
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[26:10.920 --> 26:16.280] but they're actually facilitating crime. Because of the way they've been set up,
[26:17.560 --> 26:25.160] they expose people to different kinds of crimes that could not have possibly happened otherwise.
[26:27.160 --> 26:34.440] And it's not just something like the abduction of a child from a playground where it's easy to watch
[26:35.880 --> 26:39.640] for anybody without a username and password to watch the playground and figure out
[26:40.200 --> 26:47.640] when this child goes there on a regular basis and there's nobody around. It's not just crimes like
[26:47.640 --> 26:59.880] that or crimes that are derived from an unauthorized person having easy access to find when you
[26:59.880 --> 27:07.400] typically go to work and leave your house empty and things could be stolen or even, you know,
[27:08.360 --> 27:14.200] those kinds of crimes are one level. But you also have things that are happening
[27:16.200 --> 27:26.360] where the ones who are supposed to be protecting are going fishing around in our lives, which are
[27:26.360 --> 27:36.120] all nicely categorized and tagged and linked so that they can go find without a warrant,
[27:36.120 --> 27:41.640] without any probable cause, without even any facts in support of seeking a judicial warrant.
[27:43.800 --> 27:49.320] Their system is set up so that anybody who wants to go browse around looking for a crime,
[27:49.880 --> 27:59.800] okay, we see this man and wife over here arguing and the system goes ahead and initiates,
[27:59.800 --> 28:05.560] it zooms in on them, AI figures out that there's something to pay attention to here and zooms in
[28:05.560 --> 28:14.600] on them. It uses facial recognition on the back end to identify these people to find out exactly
[28:14.600 --> 28:20.040] where they live and say, hey, this is 45 minutes away and to find out that they've just come from
[28:20.040 --> 28:30.680] church and now they're here at this outdoor marketplace where they're being watched by these
[28:30.680 --> 28:40.680] surveillance cameras. They don't even realize it and it says, well, this one of the spouse has
[28:40.680 --> 28:46.920] just been to medical school and they have this big debt problem and the other one has an irritable
[28:46.920 --> 28:55.080] bowel syndrome and it pulls up all of this stuff that obviously this is not public information and
[28:55.800 --> 29:02.040] should never be public information and by anybody's measurements, they would say,
[29:03.240 --> 29:10.360] that's not right. If you ask anybody if they intend for this kind of power to be put in the hands of
[29:12.200 --> 29:16.840] the ones who are looking for crimes, who are trying to find something to accuse you of,
[29:18.200 --> 29:24.280] that's a crime in itself. The fact that they're going and digging around in all these deep dive
[29:24.280 --> 29:31.320] databases without any warrant, it's completely unreasonable. It's a violation of the fourth
[29:31.320 --> 29:38.040] amendment. Well, here's what we can do. You talked about some technical pushback and we could
[29:39.240 --> 29:46.280] insert junk data into one camera's system and that might be really fun to do, but I'm actually
[29:47.080 --> 29:55.320] thinking about how do we... I want them to take them all down and so I want them to cancel the
[29:55.320 --> 30:00.200] contracts and stop it, not just switch to a different provider, but realize that this is
[30:00.200 --> 30:11.160] absolutely unacceptable. Oh, William. Yeah, and so I'm formulating records requests that will
[30:12.120 --> 30:19.800] ask for the records of people that don't want their information to be out there,
[30:19.800 --> 30:26.600] such as council members and maybe the mayor, and I want to see everywhere that the... I want the
[30:26.600 --> 30:36.040] camera footage that shows all this creepy, too detailed information about the mayor and the
[30:36.040 --> 30:41.240] city council members and so forth. I want to see where their kids go and how many cars park in
[30:41.240 --> 30:45.800] their driveway. I want to see all of where all those cars went and where they were at 2 in the
[30:45.800 --> 30:51.640] morning. I want to know which cities they go to and they will quickly realize this is not the
[30:51.640 --> 31:02.040] kind of information we want anybody to be collecting. This I like. This sounds like a really viable
[31:03.000 --> 31:16.360] remedy. I get it that the police want to be able to solve crime, so if I'm implicated in a crime
[31:17.800 --> 31:24.440] and I try to produce an alibi, the police want all the information they can
[31:25.240 --> 31:34.920] to determine if my alibi is valid or not. I get that, but how far can we go
[31:35.560 --> 31:42.840] when the information that we collect for the purpose of keeping the public safe,
[31:44.600 --> 31:47.960] the information we collect itself is not safe.
[31:47.960 --> 31:55.240] If I'm a bad guy and I want to abduct your child,
[31:57.000 --> 32:02.680] I can hack these systems and find out everything about you and your child
[32:03.320 --> 32:07.800] that these systems have and it gives me an incredible advantage.
[32:08.600 --> 32:19.160] You don't even have to hack it. In many cases, they configure them with no username and password
[32:19.160 --> 32:25.640] required. If they even try to set up a username and password on there or say
[32:26.840 --> 32:32.120] it's not intended to be wide open to the public, there's a physical button on the device you can
[32:32.120 --> 32:41.000] hit that will open up a local Wi-Fi admin network that allows you to just go up behind the device
[32:41.960 --> 32:52.920] and now you're root. It's like you're god, you're admin on the device. You're controlling
[32:52.920 --> 32:58.680] everything. You can delete videos, you can substitute videos, put somebody else's stuff
[32:58.680 --> 33:02.840] on there. You want a technical solution to putting bad data in there. You wouldn't even
[33:02.840 --> 33:10.760] have to turn on a radio. Several years ago, we had a woman who was in a wheelchair and she worked for
[33:10.760 --> 33:16.360] a major law firm and they decided that she was problematic. They wanted to get rid of her
[33:17.160 --> 33:24.360] and so they tried to fire her and she fought it. They were in a lawsuit and she had come on the
[33:24.360 --> 33:32.280] show and we had someone on talking about this kind of thing and he referred her to some software
[33:33.560 --> 33:42.440] that would detect anything trying to access her computer. It came on at two o'clock one morning
[33:43.640 --> 33:52.040] and the law firm was trying to put kitty porn on her computer. She caught him.
[33:52.360 --> 34:01.640] Wow. This crap actually happens. People ask us, do you have any wins? That was one of our wins.
[34:03.080 --> 34:08.520] When she caught him red-handed because of this particular software, they settled with her
[34:09.080 --> 34:21.960] very quickly. But yeah, this is scary business. I'm a guy. If someone pushes kitty porn on me,
[34:22.040 --> 34:30.440] kitty porn on my machine, I'm ruined as a human being. We were in Pennsylvania with Deborah
[34:31.960 --> 34:39.320] and we had a guy there who was afraid that he was a black bumper man and he was afraid he was
[34:39.320 --> 34:46.200] fighting the IRS and he was afraid that they were going to come in and raid his office.
[34:46.200 --> 34:55.240] So Deborah caught this. She's looking at his records. What she's trying to do is we put a
[34:56.440 --> 35:01.880] computer out in his shop up on a shelf behind some stuff so he couldn't see it.
[35:02.520 --> 35:07.960] It would come on at two o'clock in the morning, back up all her systems and all his systems and
[35:07.960 --> 35:15.560] shut off. While she's doing this, she noticed that this file contained 10 gigabytes and when
[35:15.560 --> 35:23.400] she opened it, it had almost nothing in it. That's not suspicious at all. Being the computer geek
[35:23.400 --> 35:31.960] that she was, she went into all of the files that were supposedly deleted and she found 10 gigabytes
[35:31.960 --> 35:41.960] of kitty porn on his computer. He was a black bumper man and one of my favorite human beings.
[35:41.960 --> 35:49.720] Of course, that wasn't what he wanted. That would have ruined his life. Oh man. I'll go back to this
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[38:57.560 --> 38:57.960] Okay.
[39:00.440 --> 39:06.120] Randy Fountainborough Radio. I was going to have Brett bring in but I needed to finish up what I
[39:06.120 --> 39:11.560] was talking about. This guy, it turned out one of his children or great grandchildren were
[39:13.160 --> 39:20.840] doing porn and when they got done they deleted everything. What they didn't realize
[39:21.800 --> 39:27.080] is when you delete something off your computer it doesn't erase it.
[39:28.760 --> 39:35.800] It takes the first character of the file name and change it. What does it change it to Brett?
[39:37.240 --> 39:43.160] Well that's what it used to do, yeah. They would put either a tilde or some kind of non-printable
[39:43.160 --> 39:49.080] character or just even edit the index to the files. The file's still sitting there
[39:49.640 --> 39:53.000] but it's gone from like the table of contents.
[39:55.080 --> 40:02.600] So if you go in there and when Windows first came out I was pretty good with DOS
[40:02.600 --> 40:08.280] and I knew how to do this. When you put that character on the front of a file, the file's
[40:08.280 --> 40:16.360] still there. It just put this character on the front of the name. I could run a DOS batch file
[40:16.360 --> 40:21.720] that would go in and look for this character and change it to a one or an A or anything
[40:23.000 --> 40:30.680] and all those files were restored. So if when you when you load something on your hard drive
[40:30.680 --> 40:39.080] it will go down and look for this character and it sees this character and it follows this file to
[40:39.080 --> 40:45.480] the end of the file and that's free space now. You can write something over it but if you haven't,
[40:45.480 --> 40:53.880] if your system hasn't written something over it, it's still there. Oh and this had 10 gig
[40:54.840 --> 41:02.120] of K-Porn. When I told him, I brought him up in an office and told him about it and he was standing
[41:02.120 --> 41:12.600] up and he physically wavered. I grabbed him and set him down. This, it would have ruined his entire
[41:12.600 --> 41:19.960] life and then we have someone call into our show and catches a law firm loading K-Porn
[41:19.960 --> 41:26.120] on her computer at two o'clock in the morning and she don't know anything about it. Brett,
[41:27.320 --> 41:35.720] this crap has to stop. Yep, I agree. So I'm considering how to best formulate
[41:36.600 --> 41:44.760] a federal declaratory judgment suit but first I would like to collect some records.
[41:47.880 --> 41:55.000] It's very easy to just find an unprotected camera that's pointed out there at the public
[41:55.640 --> 42:02.840] and it doesn't redact faces or anything. Hold on, hold on. What does protected mean?
[42:03.000 --> 42:09.400] When I say protected, in that sentence all I meant was with a username and password.
[42:12.520 --> 42:17.880] With a, you mean it's only protected, oh it's not protected. It's easy to find some that have no,
[42:17.880 --> 42:23.320] that don't require a username and password. Anybody on the internet all over China or wherever,
[42:23.320 --> 42:27.160] if they want to go and pull it up, they can and they can look at your kids and see what your kids
[42:27.160 --> 42:33.400] have been doing and where they go every night. It's so out of control ridiculous. It's a national
[42:33.400 --> 42:40.760] security issue. So if I set up security cameras around my house and I don't password protect them,
[42:42.280 --> 42:48.120] anybody can log into my computers and you know. Not necessarily into your computers,
[42:48.120 --> 42:53.480] maybe if there are security vulnerabilities, which in this situation there are major security
[42:53.480 --> 42:58.280] vulnerabilities. So even if they make an attempt to configure it with a username and password,
[42:58.920 --> 43:04.840] these vulnerabilities are huge. I had, I was flipping houses and we had this house we're
[43:04.840 --> 43:10.680] working on and we don't, we don't want people breaking into it and busting it all up. So I
[43:10.680 --> 43:17.240] had some old phones. I put one in a cup. I plugged in a power supply to it and put it in a cup
[43:17.960 --> 43:23.720] and we had internet was hooked up to this house and I put a program on it that if
[43:24.520 --> 43:31.880] it would look out at the house, at the room and take a photograph every 15 seconds or fifth of a
[43:31.880 --> 43:36.760] second or whatever it was. And then it would take another photograph and it would compare the two.
[43:37.720 --> 43:45.720] If it saw X percentage of pixel differences, it would email me immediately.
[43:46.680 --> 43:50.360] I could respond to it and I could see what the camera was seeing.
[43:51.480 --> 43:58.920] So if I've got that and I don't have it password word protective, would you be able to scan the
[43:58.920 --> 44:04.920] neighborhood and find that? Could you scan the neighborhood with a signal that would get that
[44:05.000 --> 44:13.080] thing to respond to you? Yes. See that is problematic. If I got a camera on my kid's room
[44:14.680 --> 44:21.480] and this is between me and my child, I don't figure I need to password protect this.
[44:22.440 --> 44:30.760] Some pervert down the street can lock into my camera and know what's going on in my kid's
[44:30.760 --> 44:36.200] room. That is security business. Or not just down the street. Maybe they're placing orders
[44:36.200 --> 44:43.240] from Puerto Rico. So if they're in Bangkok, Thailand. Yeah and they want to order a kid
[44:43.240 --> 44:58.760] that looks like yours. Okay, solution. So my initial approach to finding solutions is
[44:59.720 --> 45:09.720] with records requests and with building up to a federal declaratory judgment suit. Hold on,
[45:09.720 --> 45:16.360] hold on. Records requests? I wasn't thinking about that. So you're saying we have all of these
[45:16.360 --> 45:26.360] government cameras out there that while they may be protected and we can't access them online,
[45:26.440 --> 45:31.080] that we may be able to access them with record requests? Yeah, it's all public records.
[45:33.800 --> 45:39.400] So what they're going to do is they're going to say, oh well, we're going to have to redact that
[45:39.400 --> 45:46.600] for protecting these people's confidentiality. So okay, so just like with any public records we
[45:46.600 --> 45:52.840] request, if somebody's personal identifying information is part of that record, then they
[45:52.840 --> 45:59.320] have to redact to that portion of the record, but they have to release the rest of the record.
[46:00.040 --> 46:08.120] Is my address public? Yeah, but technically Texas categorizes that as one of in statute.
[46:08.120 --> 46:12.920] It's specifically mentioned as one of the things that is personal identifying information.
[46:12.920 --> 46:21.320] Oh okay, good, good. Okay, I'm just sitting here brainstorming trying to imagine all the crap they
[46:21.320 --> 46:27.880] can pull on me. If I'm driving down the street, I had a friend who contacted me
[46:30.040 --> 46:37.640] because I do the show. His daughter was in Austin going to college in Austin and somebody was
[46:38.280 --> 46:45.000] taking this guy following her in a Jeep and he was driving up next to her and waving at her trying
[46:45.000 --> 46:51.960] to get her attention. So she rode next to him and got to an exit ramp and drove off the exit ramp.
[46:53.240 --> 46:58.120] This guy, he cut down through the grass to get back behind her and she finally lost him.
[46:59.640 --> 47:06.520] The next day she was working for a real estate agency. He showed up in the real estate office.
[47:07.000 --> 47:14.440] Oh, he found her by her license plate. Yeah, that's easy. He came in and sat down and talked to her
[47:15.240 --> 47:20.920] and introduced himself. He was a lawyer and opened his coat and showed her he had a pistol
[47:22.680 --> 47:30.280] under his coat. Wow, that's not creepy at all. Yeah, you know, this was a friend of mine that I knew
[47:30.280 --> 47:36.360] to have someone going after one of my children and using, he was a lawyer, so he's able to access
[47:36.360 --> 47:46.440] these systems that you and I couldn't access. This thing of all of this. But this is stuff that
[47:46.440 --> 47:52.520] anybody can access and you don't have to be a hacker to take advantage of these
[47:53.320 --> 47:59.640] so dozens of major vulnerabilities. Without doing any hacking, it's easy to find things that are
[47:59.640 --> 48:07.800] unprotected. And it's even been demonstrated that you can, there's a blade antenna that you could
[48:07.800 --> 48:14.440] point at the device and you can watch live stream video from it. And you can see that there's a
[48:14.680 --> 48:19.720] can there's a blade antenna that you could point at the device and you can watch
[48:19.720 --> 48:24.520] live stream video from it. I just had a disturbing thought.
[48:26.600 --> 48:31.160] You're talking about this and I'm thinking, well, I don't know how to do this. And maybe most people
[48:31.160 --> 48:40.760] don't know how to do this. But I have Claude, which is an AI engine. If I were to ask Claude,
[48:40.760 --> 48:54.120] can you find me any video surveillance cameras that show breath on? Could it do that?
[48:57.400 --> 49:05.320] I don't know that there's an interface that's exposed. There may be an interface like that,
[49:05.320 --> 49:12.360] that's exposed to the law enforcement people. In fact, that's one way that they can do their
[49:12.360 --> 49:17.080] search is initiated by is a term, one of the keywords they can use as your name.
[49:17.720 --> 49:26.040] The thing that disturbed me is there's so much stuff I don't know. But with AI coming on,
[49:27.240 --> 49:34.920] AI knows pretty well everything. So all I have to know how to do is ask AI and AI can go find it.
[49:35.320 --> 49:44.920] So there would need to be some sort of an automated interface between your Claude LLM
[49:45.720 --> 49:55.080] and these open surveillance nodes. And right now there's not anything like that.
[49:55.640 --> 50:01.080] It would be very hard to create one and that would just make everything exponentially worse.
[50:01.080 --> 50:04.760] But right now, that doesn't have access to them.
[50:04.760 --> 50:07.880] Yeah, it doesn't have to if it can tell me what to look.
[50:09.240 --> 50:13.640] It can tell, I don't know how to find this stuff, but even though Claude may not have
[50:13.640 --> 50:22.360] direct access to it, could Claude tell me how to find it? This is one of the things I'm finding
[50:22.360 --> 50:32.040] with AI. Anything you want to know, AI can tell you how to find it. And now we're talking about
[50:32.040 --> 50:40.520] stuff that we don't want people to be able to know, but AI can find it. So if I'm a low,
[50:40.520 --> 50:46.760] no, no good pervert, I have the same access as everybody else. This is scary. Hang on,
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[52:02.600 --> 52:06.360] The Bill of Rights contains the first 10 amendments of our constitution.
[52:06.360 --> 52:11.240] They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect. Our liberty depends on
[52:11.240 --> 52:15.720] it. I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember one
[52:15.720 --> 52:21.960] of your constitutional rights. Privacy is under attack. When you give up data about yourself,
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[53:33.080 --> 53:36.920] The bill of rights contains the first 10 amendments of our constitution.
[53:36.920 --> 53:40.600] They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[53:40.600 --> 53:44.600] Our liberty depends on it. I'm Dr. Katherine Albrecht and I'll be right back with an
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[56:28.920 --> 56:36.040] All right. Welcome to the second hour of Rule of Law Radio. This is Thursday, the 26th of March,
[56:36.040 --> 56:45.560] 2026. And we're talking about surveillance systems that are being increasingly implemented secretly
[56:46.600 --> 56:54.040] all around the country. And there's one popular brand, Flock Safety, but it's actually not just
[56:54.040 --> 57:02.840] them. They have competitors, and we're talking about what I'm in the middle of doing right now,
[57:02.840 --> 57:09.800] which is records requests. Because these are all public records. Courts have held that,
[57:10.360 --> 57:18.920] so that helps. And they're talking about, oh, you have no expectation of privacy once you're
[57:18.920 --> 57:23.000] out in the public. So I'm going to say the same thing to them when I'm asking for
[57:24.440 --> 57:32.520] extra creepy requests that show records that they don't want disclosed. And my records requests
[57:32.520 --> 57:40.840] will ask for, like, audit-style requests. I want to find out about all the searches that have been
[57:40.840 --> 57:47.560] done. I want to find out which officer searched for what and for whom and how many times in ways.
[57:48.360 --> 57:55.480] And what did he find? Show me what came of those searches. Yeah, now show me where was the
[57:55.480 --> 58:00.440] probable cause and the warrant that backed up his ability to go do all that searching.
[58:00.440 --> 58:06.280] Oh, you didn't have one. Okay, next officer, next search. What you got on the next search?
[58:06.840 --> 58:14.280] Yeah, tell me about that search. Who was it? Identify the officer for me. The name and rank and,
[58:14.360 --> 58:21.560] you know, title, agency. I want to know all about your data sharing. I recognize that you are
[58:23.400 --> 58:30.840] accessing records that are beyond what your city surveillance is installed. So what sort of data
[58:30.840 --> 58:36.440] sharing reciprocality do you have in place? I want to see those memorandums of agreement
[58:36.440 --> 58:45.400] that allow you to access their cameras. In fact, tell me who are all of the people that have access
[58:45.400 --> 58:55.960] to your cameras? These kind of questions are one prong of my approach that I'm launching into here.
[58:57.160 --> 59:02.920] The other prong is going to be a federal declaratory judgment suit. And I say that
[59:02.920 --> 59:11.960] because I don't want to sue them right off the bat for violating, depriving me or my family of
[59:11.960 --> 59:17.720] our Fourth Amendment rights, even though that would be perfectly appropriate. I want to first
[59:17.720 --> 59:25.320] get a declaratory judgment out there, which they wouldn't be able to 12b6 it. They wouldn't be able
[59:25.320 --> 59:33.480] to say, oh, well, we're immune or in any kind of way they don't have any immunity. There's no 12b1
[59:33.480 --> 59:40.920] or 12b6 to talk about because there's no claim. I'm trying to have the court declare. Hold on,
[59:41.480 --> 59:47.560] let me clarify that. This is critically important. If you're still a public official,
[59:48.360 --> 59:54.520] the first thing they're going to do is a 12b1, 12b6 claim of absolute immunity, claim
[59:54.520 --> 59:58.520] of failure, state of claim of which recovery can be had because I have immunity.
[01:00:00.040 --> 01:00:08.280] If you've petitioned for a declaratory judgment, you're not making any claims. Exactly. So 12b1,
[01:00:08.280 --> 01:00:15.400] 12b6 do not apply. You bypass that altogether and you go straight to discovery, which is the last
[01:00:15.400 --> 01:00:22.120] one they want to do. And then you get in discovery and push them into making you a deal. And when
[01:00:22.120 --> 01:00:30.840] they make a deal, the deal acts essentially as a admission. Then you come back and go after them
[01:00:31.960 --> 01:00:38.520] before damages. But my concern was, which kind of occurred to me just a few days ago, I was talking
[01:00:38.520 --> 01:00:44.680] to Scott about this, that he was filing a petition to declare to our judgment because they did some
[01:00:44.680 --> 01:00:49.560] things and he wanted to know what authority they had to do those things. And I'm thinking,
[01:00:49.560 --> 01:00:58.680] huh, okay, if they've damaged me and I file suit to force them under petition with declaratory
[01:00:58.680 --> 01:01:05.480] judgment to declare exactly how they had authority to do this thing, have I elected my remedy?
[01:01:08.360 --> 01:01:10.760] I have a basic set of facts here.
[01:01:11.400 --> 01:01:17.160] I would say, no, you have not gotten any remedy just by asking the courts to clarify
[01:01:17.160 --> 01:01:21.800] your rights and status. That's what the declaratory judgment is. I need to find out
[01:01:21.800 --> 01:01:28.600] what are my rights and status because I need to know if I even have a remedy is appropriate here.
[01:01:28.600 --> 01:01:34.680] But I'm the defendant here and you forced me to come into court and hire lawyers and adjudicate
[01:01:34.680 --> 01:01:43.320] all this stuff based on this fact set. You can't come and force me back into court on this fact
[01:01:43.320 --> 01:01:52.040] set. Again, you elected your remedy. And that was, you know, that's what occurred to me.
[01:01:52.040 --> 01:02:02.360] And it made me take a different fact set. Hey, look at this court. It happened again the next day.
[01:02:03.240 --> 01:02:07.240] That would, that would take care of it. You need to make sure you're going to have a fact set
[01:02:07.240 --> 01:02:11.880] to where you have another set of facts set. Because if I say they come in and did all this
[01:02:11.880 --> 01:02:18.680] horrible shit to me, and I'm sorry, all this horrible feces to me, and I sue them
[01:02:20.200 --> 01:02:26.200] in a petition for declaratory judgment, I forced them to hire lawyers and incur expense and spend
[01:02:26.200 --> 01:02:35.640] time dealing with this issue. In my benefit, you know, for my favor, then I want to come back and
[01:02:35.640 --> 01:02:41.960] sue them again. And they're going to say, wait a minute, I already hired lawyers once and dealt
[01:02:41.960 --> 01:02:51.800] with this. So if it is a pattern of behavior, and I get my declaratory judgment on an action
[01:02:52.520 --> 01:03:00.600] at one point in time, and then I can come back, I can't come back on that one because I've used up
[01:03:00.600 --> 01:03:11.640] my choice of what's the verbiage election. I don't think that's true, though. I don't think
[01:03:11.640 --> 01:03:15.880] you've got any remedy. You just got your rights and status clarified. That's all. And if they
[01:03:15.880 --> 01:03:20.920] wouldn't hire lawyers to do that, that's their problem. That's exactly a question that, you know,
[01:03:20.920 --> 01:03:28.120] I wasn't sure. And choice of remedy, choice of remedy is a problem. If you choose your remedy
[01:03:28.120 --> 01:03:34.200] in declaratory judgment, do you still have the ability to choose another remedy
[01:03:35.320 --> 01:03:41.160] in punitive for punitive? I would say there's no remedy involved in the declaratory judgment
[01:03:41.160 --> 01:03:47.480] because all you're getting is clarification. There's no claim. So how could there be remedy?
[01:03:47.480 --> 01:03:52.360] You sued me for declaratory judgment, and I have to hire lawyers and I have to be out
[01:03:53.000 --> 01:04:01.160] on the road. So if you end up not having, if I don't get a judgment in my favor,
[01:04:01.160 --> 01:04:06.840] then you could turn around and sue me for having, for the cost of your attorneys because...
[01:04:07.480 --> 01:04:10.840] But the courts have consistently said you have to choose your remedy.
[01:04:12.040 --> 01:04:15.400] So if you choose... If you go for a declaratory judgment suit,
[01:04:15.400 --> 01:04:20.120] there is no remedy involved. Yeah, this is something I don't personally have an answer for.
[01:04:20.120 --> 01:04:25.880] That's something that occurred to me. Holy crap. I was saying I want to sue for declaratory
[01:04:25.880 --> 01:04:30.840] judgment. When I get my judgment, then I'm going to come back and sue for damages. And then this
[01:04:30.840 --> 01:04:39.960] whole notion of choice of remedy, I force the defendant to come into court and defend himself
[01:04:39.960 --> 01:04:48.760] on one set of issues relative to this spec set. And he does so. Then I come back and force him to...
[01:04:48.760 --> 01:04:54.120] He's not defending himself, technically. There's no claim to defend.
[01:04:54.920 --> 01:05:03.000] Good point. But okay, this is something I need to examine in the case law, but that's a good point.
[01:05:04.360 --> 01:05:06.280] He don't have to defend if he doesn't want to.
[01:05:07.560 --> 01:05:12.920] Right. You're asking the court to clarify about the law and the status, your rights.
[01:05:13.560 --> 01:05:16.680] I'm not suing him. Exactly.
[01:05:16.680 --> 01:05:23.080] I'm suing the court. He's just a respondent. He's not a defendant. He's a respondent.
[01:05:24.280 --> 01:05:31.000] So he has an interest in this. So if he doesn't like where this is going, he can come to the court
[01:05:31.000 --> 01:05:37.400] and say it should go to somewhere else, but he's not defending himself. So if he comes to court,
[01:05:37.400 --> 01:05:45.480] he does so voluntarily, and therefore I'm not precluded from suing him personally.
[01:05:48.520 --> 01:05:50.440] That's how it looks to me.
[01:05:50.440 --> 01:05:56.040] Yeah. It's just doing a mental exercise here. We'd have to go in and look at the case law,
[01:05:56.040 --> 01:06:01.800] but this seems reasonable. Otherwise, declaratory judgment would be of no real value.
[01:06:02.520 --> 01:06:08.520] I agree. Well, hey, we've got Roger over here on the call board.
[01:06:08.520 --> 01:06:12.040] Who's this guy? We were talking to Roger in Wisconsin.
[01:06:12.920 --> 01:06:15.160] Good evening, Roger. What's on your mind?
[01:06:15.160 --> 01:06:19.800] I didn't know anybody. Roger even knew how to speak in Wisconsin, knew how to speak English.
[01:06:23.240 --> 01:06:28.440] I used to live in Illinois, just south of Wisconsin, and we always picked on Wisconsin.
[01:06:28.440 --> 01:06:30.520] Okay, Roger, what do you have for us?
[01:06:31.400 --> 01:06:36.120] You're from my old neighborhood, Randy in Chicago. That's where I'm from.
[01:06:37.880 --> 01:06:47.160] But anyways, I think it's a catch-22, downed if you do, downed if you don't situation
[01:06:47.880 --> 01:06:57.320] when it comes to all of this heightened security, because we've got, what, 50 million illegal
[01:06:57.320 --> 01:07:03.480] immigrants running around in this country. How many of those are potential terrorists?
[01:07:06.280 --> 01:07:15.800] We've kicked a hornet's nest within the past month or two with Iran, so basically it's more
[01:07:15.800 --> 01:07:23.480] or less like if we have a situation like if you recall the movie Invasion USA with Chuck Norris,
[01:07:23.880 --> 01:07:34.040] our rest in peace, people are going to say after a bunch of terroristic attacks, it's like,
[01:07:34.840 --> 01:07:40.920] we have all this technology. How come you didn't use it? Well, they'll say, well, because we had
[01:07:42.840 --> 01:07:52.760] a lot of people that filed lawsuits or whatever, FOIAs. You see what I'm saying?
[01:07:54.120 --> 01:07:59.240] Brett, can you understand him? I can hear him, but I'm losing the high tone,
[01:07:59.240 --> 01:08:03.480] so I can't understand what you're saying. It was the last part, it started to trail off.
[01:08:03.480 --> 01:08:09.720] I was able to track while he was talking about Iran, kicking a hornet's nest,
[01:08:10.520 --> 01:08:18.920] but then it started getting quieter. Roger, for me, your voice is kind of distant, so if you can
[01:08:19.560 --> 01:08:26.840] speak up a little bit, it would help. Okay, so we kicked this hornet's nest,
[01:08:27.640 --> 01:08:35.080] and we have the technology, so if they start flying commercial airlines in the big buildings,
[01:08:36.120 --> 01:08:43.080] people are going to say, we have all this technology, how come they were allowed to do this?
[01:08:43.480 --> 01:08:50.840] I see what you're saying. Well, so this is a two-edged sword, so it would be technically
[01:08:50.840 --> 01:08:57.240] possible to go back and see who did it, but it would also be technically possible to have that
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[01:11:32.680 --> 01:11:36.600] Ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again
[01:11:37.560 --> 01:11:45.560] I was blindsided but now I can see your plan You put the fear in my pockets
[01:11:45.560 --> 01:11:51.960] Took money from my hand Ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again
[01:11:52.680 --> 01:12:01.800] Okay, welcome back to the Lula Blah Radio. Randy Kelton, I'm Brett Fountain. We are talking right
[01:12:01.800 --> 01:12:11.160] now with Roger in Wisconsin. And Roger, we were talking about what if Iran does something, we've
[01:12:11.160 --> 01:12:16.200] kicked a hornet's nest, and what if they do this? Well, we would want to use our systems to catch
[01:12:17.160 --> 01:12:23.240] the perpetrators, right? What I would be more concerned about is what if
[01:12:25.400 --> 01:12:33.960] get a couple of Iranian script kiddies, 15 years old, logging in and putting Roger's face into
[01:12:33.960 --> 01:12:42.040] that surveillance network, saving it on top of, you know, in other words, changing
[01:12:42.680 --> 01:12:50.520] what the terrorist looks like, and put Roger's face on it. Why not? Now Roger's a member of the Taliban.
[01:12:50.520 --> 01:13:01.240] You're not. Well, you know, it wouldn't surprise me, you know, with the way things are going and all,
[01:13:01.240 --> 01:13:10.360] but anyways, we got basically, what would you estimate how many illegal immigrants and out of
[01:13:10.440 --> 01:13:15.960] immigrants and out of that, how many do you feel are potential terrorists?
[01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:27.000] Yeah, I don't have numbers for that. With four million, I'm going to suggest one hundredth of one
[01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:38.920] percent, but one hundredth of one percent of four million are way, way too many.
[01:13:41.640 --> 01:13:44.120] They can do a lot of damage, right? You know, I mean.
[01:13:46.600 --> 01:13:52.440] Yeah, but I'm amazed. You know, we've heard all this stuff about all these sleeper cells and
[01:13:53.160 --> 01:13:59.240] are coming in through the border, but we haven't had any terroristic tracks.
[01:13:59.800 --> 01:14:12.680] We're hammering around big time. And these supposed sleeper cells appear to be still asleep.
[01:14:13.320 --> 01:14:25.880] Well, they've pretty much threatened, you know, I don't know if it's idle or not, but I wouldn't
[01:14:25.880 --> 01:14:37.640] put it past them to light the fire here and, you know, good old USA. So it's a catch 22,
[01:14:37.640 --> 01:14:43.400] whereas damned if you do it, you know, and damned if you don't. So I mean.
[01:14:43.400 --> 01:14:48.840] OK, wait a minute, wait a minute. We're hammering Iran big time.
[01:14:50.520 --> 01:15:00.040] Trump has unloaded on them. So if they had sleeper cells that could turn the do some really horrible
[01:15:00.040 --> 01:15:07.800] stuff in the U.S. like 9-11 or something in that order and turn the American public against the
[01:15:07.800 --> 01:15:16.760] president, we would think they would have done it. But either nothing has occurred or if it has
[01:15:16.760 --> 01:15:24.360] occurred, it's been completely kept secret from the public. And I don't see how they can do that
[01:15:24.360 --> 01:15:30.920] in these days and times. So the our government is jumping up and down rail and right sending
[01:15:30.920 --> 01:15:35.240] nation about all these sleeper cells that snuck in through the southern border. Well,
[01:15:36.280 --> 01:15:42.840] at the time that Iran is in the most peril, you would think they would stand up.
[01:15:44.360 --> 01:15:48.120] But they haven't. What does that mean?
[01:15:48.120 --> 01:15:58.520] Well, they probably know that we'd be at a height of security and not to do it at this point now
[01:15:58.520 --> 01:15:59.320] and to wait.
[01:16:02.440 --> 01:16:06.600] Wait, did you understand that, Brett? Not to wait for what?
[01:16:07.400 --> 01:16:15.400] No, they would identify that we are at a heightened state of security
[01:16:16.440 --> 01:16:19.720] and that they would prefer to wait, possibly.
[01:16:20.520 --> 01:16:21.960] Oh, I see what you're saying.
[01:16:21.960 --> 01:16:30.760] Oh, wait until Iran is ground into complete dust. Duh.
[01:16:31.400 --> 01:16:31.900] Duh.
[01:16:33.320 --> 01:16:38.040] He's saying that if if there were some sleeper cells, they don't want to act yet.
[01:16:41.480 --> 01:16:46.200] They want to wait till the dust settles and things die down and and they wouldn't be
[01:16:47.000 --> 01:16:51.160] people not such on edge and ready to notice things.
[01:16:51.800 --> 01:16:57.640] When when the dust settles, Iran will be in the toilet
[01:16:59.880 --> 01:17:05.000] because, you know, we're bombing Iran into oblivion. If there are sleep cells out there
[01:17:05.000 --> 01:17:10.680] who could do something to create some political influence, it would seem they would be doing that
[01:17:11.880 --> 01:17:17.960] instead of waiting until Iran has absolutely no power to resist.
[01:17:18.680 --> 01:17:22.840] You know, what would be the point? You go down and do some kind of
[01:17:22.840 --> 01:17:28.120] horrible thing in the United States and just P.O.S. more at you at Iran.
[01:17:30.040 --> 01:17:33.400] It would think that if these sleeper cells were actually here and they were active,
[01:17:33.400 --> 01:17:40.840] they would have done something to help influence the the world against what Trump is doing,
[01:17:40.840 --> 01:17:41.480] but they're not.
[01:17:41.480 --> 01:17:45.480] What's going on here?
[01:17:50.760 --> 01:17:51.320] Religion.
[01:17:54.040 --> 01:17:55.000] It keeps going.
[01:17:58.760 --> 01:18:01.640] OK, I missed that. Brett, what did he say? I couldn't get it.
[01:18:01.640 --> 01:18:06.120] He's saying religion. He's speaking to the whole Islam.
[01:18:06.920 --> 01:18:13.400] And basically the Arabs want to kill as many Jews as possible. They hate the Jews and
[01:18:14.920 --> 01:18:19.240] Shiites hate everybody. They want to kill everybody. They can't.
[01:18:20.840 --> 01:18:26.440] So he's saying this is a religious thing. And I see his point. This is not about
[01:18:27.000 --> 01:18:30.760] where lines are drawn. As long as there's one Jew alive, they're still going to be.
[01:18:30.760 --> 01:18:34.120] And they've said this. It's not I'm not, you know, putting words in their mouth.
[01:18:34.600 --> 01:18:41.080] And as long as they continue to one Jew, one Sunni, these are Shiite Muslims.
[01:18:41.080 --> 01:18:48.280] We have Sunni Muslims. Most of the Muslim world is Sunni. We have Iran and a few others
[01:18:48.280 --> 01:18:56.920] that are associated with Iran that are Shiite and the Sunnis. They're at each other's throat
[01:18:57.000 --> 01:19:04.520] constantly to kill for a Sunni to kill a Shiite.
[01:19:06.360 --> 01:19:11.320] Infidel, less than a dog. And the same way on the other side.
[01:19:13.480 --> 01:19:17.960] And you have to keep in mind that Islam's only about 600 years old.
[01:19:20.200 --> 01:19:25.880] They are a very young culture compared to the Christians that are a couple thousand years old.
[01:19:26.920 --> 01:19:34.600] And the Christians have had time to realize you can't eliminate everybody who don't agree with you.
[01:19:36.600 --> 01:19:41.080] So you have to find a way to deal with them. Islam hasn't done that yet.
[01:19:43.400 --> 01:19:50.120] That far as they're concerned, if you're not a proper Islam, as I believe Islam to be,
[01:19:51.080 --> 01:19:53.720] it is my job to kill you.
[01:19:56.280 --> 01:20:01.400] And right now it seems to be coming back on them big time.
[01:20:03.480 --> 01:20:15.080] And I think after this Islam will, if it survives, will moderate and come closer to what the
[01:20:15.080 --> 01:20:22.040] Christians are doing and decide that it's probably not a good idea to try to slaughter
[01:20:22.040 --> 01:20:31.640] everybody that doesn't agree with you. And Iran just, I'm amazed at how they're responding.
[01:20:33.320 --> 01:20:41.320] Come on guys, we've beaten you into oblivion. Lighten up a little bit.
[01:20:41.960 --> 01:20:47.560] Give us a little bit of room so we can find a way to live with you
[01:20:49.000 --> 01:20:52.360] and we'll stop slaughtering you. But they just, I don't get it.
[01:20:54.680 --> 01:20:55.960] Brett, am I missing something?
[01:20:57.080 --> 01:21:03.160] We just sent a bunch of Marines and Special Forces over there to boot on the ground,
[01:21:03.960 --> 01:21:13.080] to really stir things up a bit, carrying forward and that straight to the horn move.
[01:21:13.640 --> 01:21:19.880] I don't know why they don't bomb that with the mines through the shipping lanes.
[01:21:23.480 --> 01:21:32.360] Get out in front of the tankers and bomb the mines and then get the flow of traffic going.
[01:21:33.160 --> 01:21:43.160] But I think Trump has a strategy. He's not telling us what it is,
[01:21:44.040 --> 01:21:49.640] but he seems to be leading this issue. Hang on, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain,
[01:21:49.640 --> 01:21:57.560] you're moving on radio. I'll call in number 512-646-1984. We'll be right back.
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[01:25:35.560 --> 01:25:46.760] Okay, welcome back to the Rule of Law Radio. Randy Kelston, I'm Brett Fountain,
[01:25:47.480 --> 01:25:53.960] and right now we're talking with Roger in Wisconsin. Roger, I'm pretty sure we haven't
[01:25:53.960 --> 01:25:59.400] got to whatever legal question you had when you called in. Do you have a legal question for us,
[01:25:59.400 --> 01:26:06.360] something about a law issue going on or some kind of comment about legal?
[01:26:07.720 --> 01:26:19.480] Yeah, pertaining to this undeclared war, what's your prediction for the future of any international
[01:26:20.200 --> 01:26:25.640] lawsuits regarding us bombing the crap out of them?
[01:26:29.800 --> 01:26:36.680] I don't think that's a legal question. Predictions about international lawsuits.
[01:26:38.200 --> 01:26:41.880] Yeah, I don't have any predictions like that, but if there's something that's...
[01:26:43.560 --> 01:26:45.720] It is an undeclared war, right?
[01:26:45.720 --> 01:26:55.080] Yeah, in fact, it's apparently just preemptive because it was all about
[01:26:56.360 --> 01:27:03.880] they keep refusing over and over to stop doing their nuclear program, nuclear weapons program,
[01:27:03.880 --> 01:27:15.080] and so eventually there was enough pushback that we just said, okay,
[01:27:16.680 --> 01:27:22.040] we can't allow this to continue, destabilizing the region and whatever, but none of that is
[01:27:22.040 --> 01:27:29.160] a question that we here can address. Rule of Law Radio, we can't really deal, we can't do anything
[01:27:29.160 --> 01:27:40.760] about that, and what court could you possibly go to and deal with that if you wanted to? What cause
[01:27:40.760 --> 01:27:43.640] of action would you bring? Do you know what a cause of action is?
[01:27:44.920 --> 01:27:51.160] I mean... Would it be a war crime, like a head court type action?
[01:27:54.120 --> 01:27:58.200] No, there's no jurisdiction for who hates whom.
[01:27:58.200 --> 01:28:14.920] I mean, wouldn't they... They meaning the opposition, of course, would they try and
[01:28:15.720 --> 01:28:21.640] bring Trump to the head court or something for war crimes, being an undeclared war?
[01:28:22.600 --> 01:28:29.080] I'll leave the predictions to you. That can be your territory. I don't have any predictions to make.
[01:28:31.480 --> 01:28:37.560] Well, I'll tell you a prediction. At Straits of Hormuz, if you look at a map
[01:28:37.560 --> 01:28:42.760] and knowing our past, like the Panama Canal with the Army Corps of Engineers,
[01:28:43.320 --> 01:28:50.840] I wouldn't doubt if they'd bypass that bottleneck. That's my prediction for the future.
[01:28:51.800 --> 01:28:58.040] And it would be in cooperation with the 22 countries that were allied on this with.
[01:29:01.960 --> 01:29:08.600] Okay. Well, Randy?
[01:29:11.240 --> 01:29:12.920] I have no idea what he's talking about.
[01:29:14.520 --> 01:29:19.160] He's making predictions about what's going to happen in the Middle East.
[01:29:22.360 --> 01:29:30.120] What if we were to get back to talking about this federal declaratory judgment suit angle
[01:29:30.680 --> 01:29:38.200] and considering what we need to gather, what records we would need to gather when we have
[01:29:41.080 --> 01:29:46.760] a whole bunch of cities and counties and police departments that they're gathering up
[01:29:46.760 --> 01:29:52.600] surveillance data in violation of the Fourth Amendment and they're sharing it with each other
[01:29:53.160 --> 01:30:01.560] and we need to find a way to substantiate that before a federal court. So I'm thinking,
[01:30:02.200 --> 01:30:08.520] what records do we need to gather? Do you have some more ideas beyond the ones that I was
[01:30:09.160 --> 01:30:09.800] talking about?
[01:30:16.040 --> 01:30:20.600] Randy, do you have some ideas of public records that we could? I mean, like one thing would be
[01:30:21.640 --> 01:30:31.000] I was mentioning is requesting records that would expose the privacy of the people who
[01:30:31.080 --> 01:30:38.360] implemented the system. That's one way. Another angle would be I want to see,
[01:30:38.360 --> 01:30:40.760] you know, all the records that you have. I want to see that you've.
[01:30:43.160 --> 01:30:46.440] For me, that's kind of a general question because this is an issue
[01:30:47.160 --> 01:30:55.800] I have been addressing for a very long time. I look at the Texas Code of Criminal Procedure
[01:30:55.800 --> 01:31:07.560] and it stipulates how the flow of records is to occur. But when we look at the practice,
[01:31:07.560 --> 01:31:18.040] the practice is not anything like what the code commands. So where are the records?
[01:31:18.840 --> 01:31:23.480] Guy gets arrested, guy gets accused of a crime, an officer arrests him,
[01:31:25.480 --> 01:31:28.760] takes him straight to jail, they throw him in jail all night,
[01:31:28.760 --> 01:31:34.840] next morning goes in front of this magistrate and the magistrate does this little song and dance
[01:31:35.080 --> 01:31:41.560] down your pants and sets bail and then goes away.
[01:31:44.120 --> 01:31:53.480] Well, if this was done in compliance with any code, then the magistrate would have had to
[01:31:53.480 --> 01:31:58.840] seal all the documents had in here and cause his name to be written across the document and
[01:32:00.040 --> 01:32:03.160] file it and forward it to the clerk of the court of jurisdiction.
[01:32:03.800 --> 01:32:04.440] Exactly.
[01:32:05.400 --> 01:32:07.480] That never happens.
[01:32:09.400 --> 01:32:13.000] You know, I was watching an old rerun of Perry Mason and I saw it happen.
[01:32:16.360 --> 01:32:18.680] Yeah, go ahead. They used to do it right.
[01:32:18.680 --> 01:32:25.240] It never happens in our current day. We don't see them doing it. They used to not skip that step.
[01:32:26.040 --> 01:32:30.520] In fact, when they called the guy in for arraignment, the judge has looked over the
[01:32:30.520 --> 01:32:35.880] bench. I'm looking at this black and white scene right from the reruns and the judge looks over
[01:32:35.880 --> 01:32:46.280] and says to the guy, you've seen the information and or did he say indictment? I don't remember
[01:32:47.160 --> 01:32:55.880] and you've had a chance to read it and now how do you plead? Well, shoot, we never get that part.
[01:32:56.280 --> 01:33:01.640] They skipped that part too. There aren't any documents that have been filed or served on
[01:33:01.640 --> 01:33:07.080] the supposed defendant and yet they're trying to have an arraignment, sans paperwork.
[01:33:09.000 --> 01:33:12.280] How do you plead? That's where they want to start with the responsive pleading instead of
[01:33:12.280 --> 01:33:19.480] the primary pleading. Okay, Brett said sans paperwork. Will you explain to everybody what that meant?
[01:33:19.480 --> 01:33:29.880] Well, in any criminal case, criminal or not, the person who has a problem and wants the court to
[01:33:29.880 --> 01:33:37.080] adjudicate it needs to activate the jurisdiction of that court by filing some paperwork. Now,
[01:33:37.080 --> 01:33:45.240] in a civil case, it might be called a petition or a complaint, but the four corners of that document
[01:33:45.240 --> 01:33:52.120] have to contain something that that court is allowed by law to adjudicate. So you've got
[01:33:52.120 --> 01:33:57.800] certain courts are for copyright law or certain courts are for, you know, this or that. And so
[01:33:57.800 --> 01:34:03.720] we've got criminal courts. Well, in a criminal case, that first paperwork that gets filed
[01:34:03.720 --> 01:34:09.400] doesn't come from somebody who's a supposed witness or who has information and belief.
[01:34:09.400 --> 01:34:16.120] If that first paperwork comes from the state or in some states, they call it the commonwealth
[01:34:16.120 --> 01:34:25.880] or the people. The wrong that is assumed to have been done or is being alleged, it didn't harm
[01:34:26.600 --> 01:34:34.600] necessarily a man or woman. And even if it did, that man or woman is not the one who's prosecuting
[01:34:35.560 --> 01:34:42.920] the accused. So that man or woman is not the one that comes to court. Who comes to court is the
[01:34:42.920 --> 01:34:51.560] state. So it would be an elected attorney for the state. That's who needs to come to that court and
[01:34:51.560 --> 01:34:56.920] file paperwork with the court saying, hey, court, we need your help to adjudicate this controversy.
[01:34:56.920 --> 01:35:04.360] We're bringing you we're presenting you a controversy. And the paperwork in a criminal case
[01:35:04.440 --> 01:35:13.080] is called an indictment or an information. Some states allow for either one, and some states
[01:35:14.120 --> 01:35:20.040] will say it's only an indictment. It just depends which state most states will allow for both,
[01:35:20.680 --> 01:35:25.000] because an indictment comes from a grand jury and boy, it sure is a bottleneck if everything
[01:35:25.000 --> 01:35:32.200] is going to come from a grand jury. But the alternate way is to have an attorney for the
[01:35:32.280 --> 01:35:38.120] state, the elected attorney, district attorney or county attorney can himself look at the facts,
[01:35:38.120 --> 01:35:43.000] the sworn complaints and take a look at things and say, yeah, I'm going to draw up an information
[01:35:43.000 --> 01:35:52.360] based on this. So the primary pleadings in a criminal action are an indictment or an information.
[01:35:53.320 --> 01:35:57.640] And when I say sans paperwork, I'm saying you're looking the record and none of that's there.
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[01:38:16.520 --> 01:38:17.160] Oh
[01:38:23.880 --> 01:38:31.160] Some things in this world I will never understand. Some things I realize fully.
[01:38:32.520 --> 01:38:39.160] Somebody's gonna police that policeman. Somebody's gonna police the police.
[01:38:39.160 --> 01:38:39.880] Hey
[01:38:41.080 --> 01:38:48.280] There's always a room at the top of the hill. I hear through the grapevine and it's lonely.
[01:38:50.200 --> 01:38:56.360] They're wishing it was more than a position to fill. They know that if they don't do it,
[01:38:56.360 --> 01:39:05.400] somebody will. Some things in this world I will never understand. Some things I realize fully.
[01:39:06.360 --> 01:39:13.640] Somebody's gonna police that policeman. Somebody's gonna police the police.
[01:39:14.680 --> 01:39:23.320] I know they will. Yeah, they're gonna put the bill. Cause I see so much injustice still.
[01:39:23.320 --> 01:39:31.640] I know they will never fail to tip back that scale. I know they will never fail to tip back the scale.
[01:39:36.040 --> 01:39:43.640] I know they will. I never knew. Expectation hours, huh?
[01:39:44.680 --> 01:39:47.640] I know they will.
[01:39:49.960 --> 01:39:57.640] Went down to that old rock quarry the other day. That's where I heard that old rock quarry man say.
[01:39:57.640 --> 01:40:04.200] He knew I'd always have a place for my head to lay. I still got my truck,
[01:40:04.200 --> 01:40:12.280] wave goodbye and drove away. Some things in this world I will never understand. Some things I
[01:40:12.280 --> 01:40:20.040] realize fully. Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton from Red Fountain Radio. And we've been talking
[01:40:20.040 --> 01:40:28.680] about all of this surveillance. And that's disturbing. It's disturbing on a couple of levels.
[01:40:29.640 --> 01:40:40.040] One is that the ability to do surveillance has increased so dramatically
[01:40:41.480 --> 01:40:48.040] that I can't imagine a way that we can put this genie back in the bottle.
[01:40:48.680 --> 01:40:56.840] So, since there's all this surveillance out there, Brett, how do we
[01:40:59.320 --> 01:41:07.000] take actions that may help to get all of this information gathering and dissemination
[01:41:07.000 --> 01:41:16.040] under control? Well, you know how you say it's not the facts and the law that'll help you win,
[01:41:16.040 --> 01:41:23.800] it's the politics and politics are local? Well, that makes me think about having the people who
[01:41:23.800 --> 01:41:31.080] are doing the installation, the people who are signing whatever they need to sign to get
[01:41:31.080 --> 01:41:39.960] taxpayer funds diverted over here to surveillance against the taxpayers. Those people are the ones
[01:41:39.960 --> 01:41:51.000] that are going to be, we need to make them either expose the fact that they're doing this
[01:41:51.720 --> 01:41:58.120] or expose their records, one or the other or both, to get them to realize, whoa,
[01:41:59.400 --> 01:42:07.400] this is not the kind of world I want to live in. This is, you know, dystopian.
[01:42:08.360 --> 01:42:18.680] And get them to cancel their subscriptions to all of this surveillance, get them to change that
[01:42:18.680 --> 01:42:27.080] particular plan. How do we get ordinary people, reasonable people of ordinary prudence
[01:42:27.080 --> 01:42:37.960] to weigh the value of all of this information gathering with the rights of the individual?
[01:42:38.600 --> 01:42:46.200] Where do we find a center, I want to say a center ground, where do we find a middle ground?
[01:42:46.200 --> 01:42:55.480] Yeah, like a reference. Well, I will say that with all of the exponential increase in
[01:42:56.280 --> 01:43:06.360] technological capabilities, all of our case law about this is outdated. Everything that's
[01:43:06.360 --> 01:43:14.120] being referenced is as saying like you have no reasonable expectation of privacy in public or to
[01:43:14.120 --> 01:43:22.120] say, you know, the automated license plate readers are all referencing something about 1923, a case
[01:43:22.120 --> 01:43:29.160] that said that there's that your, once your car is out there, then anybody could look at it and
[01:43:29.160 --> 01:43:43.080] that's okay. My question is, is I'm forced to display a private contract in the form of a license
[01:43:43.160 --> 01:43:54.360] plate? Yeah. I'm going to contract with this. In order for me to be able to operate my vehicle
[01:43:54.360 --> 01:44:02.280] on the public roadways, the state has ordered me to enter into a private contract with the state.
[01:44:03.320 --> 01:44:09.400] Well, but that's not the worst part of it. Let's say that they were doing it with the
[01:44:09.400 --> 01:44:17.480] windshield sticker like they used to, and instead of seeing if something's expired or not,
[01:44:17.480 --> 01:44:22.360] they're actually identifying you, logging you, tracking, uniquely identifying you, making it
[01:44:22.360 --> 01:44:30.440] where you can't go about your business in privacy anymore. Yeah. So if I get in my vehicle and I go
[01:44:30.440 --> 01:44:35.640] to a trucking company and try to do some business with them, they're going to know.
[01:44:35.640 --> 01:44:44.120] Exactly. They're going to know it's none of their business. They should not know this.
[01:44:44.120 --> 01:44:47.880] And Randy, if I scared you before, I don't want to scare you more, but
[01:44:48.520 --> 01:44:54.520] they've also got their cameras with pan tilt zoom, they will follow you around. And it's
[01:44:54.520 --> 01:44:59.560] not just when you passed in front of something, it's actually following you, zooming in
[01:44:59.560 --> 01:45:06.920] with artificial intelligence, zooming in to follow you, zoom in and see what's on your phone.
[01:45:06.920 --> 01:45:09.080] What are you looking at on that phone right now?
[01:45:10.440 --> 01:45:18.040] Most of us, older people, I'm old school, and I think, why would the government
[01:45:18.680 --> 01:45:28.680] care anyway for most of what I do? In the old days, I had a right to privacy and for the most
[01:45:28.680 --> 01:45:40.920] part, the government couldn't intrude on that. But now they can unobtrusively intrude into everything.
[01:45:43.400 --> 01:45:50.200] So here I am. It's not just obtrusive. It's secret. It's clandestine. Yeah. It's sneaky.
[01:45:50.200 --> 01:45:56.280] It's on purpose. I'm living in this world. How do I adjust my living behavior?
[01:45:58.680 --> 01:46:05.080] To accommodate for the fact that everything I do is potentially available to,
[01:46:05.880 --> 01:46:13.080] not just not necessarily the public, but to my government. This is shades of China.
[01:46:14.360 --> 01:46:17.720] I suggest that we need to change the behavior of the people who are
[01:46:18.440 --> 01:46:21.640] thinking that it's a good idea to install all this stuff using our money.
[01:46:23.160 --> 01:46:28.280] This is part of technology. It's coming. There's not going to be anything we can do about it.
[01:46:29.080 --> 01:46:36.520] How do we deal with it once it gets here? How do we negate its negative aspects?
[01:46:39.080 --> 01:46:42.360] It's like a freight train's coming at us and the brakes are out.
[01:46:44.280 --> 01:46:48.280] We're not going to be able to stop it. So how do we deal with it?
[01:46:48.280 --> 01:47:04.040] I'm not looking at it like it's unstoppable. I see situations around the country where
[01:47:05.640 --> 01:47:12.200] once this gets exposed and once the people take it back to their decision makers
[01:47:12.200 --> 01:47:20.920] and say, look what you're doing, then they get canceled contracts. This thing stops. They take
[01:47:20.920 --> 01:47:27.640] the cameras down, either city-wide, county-wide. They take these cameras down. And that's what I
[01:47:27.640 --> 01:47:33.480] think is appropriate. I'm not throwing in the towel. Yeah, who knows? Maybe it'll come around
[01:47:33.480 --> 01:47:38.840] again in some years. I don't think there's any way human beings can turn in the towel.
[01:47:38.840 --> 01:47:46.680] We're not made that way. We just keep coming back to find ways of changing this and fixing it.
[01:47:48.680 --> 01:47:54.520] Now we're at a conundrum. We have the government able to collect massive amounts of information
[01:47:54.520 --> 01:48:00.280] that they can then throw at us and say, we collected this information, therefore it's true.
[01:48:02.360 --> 01:48:06.040] Now we're stuck with this mountain of evidence that they can produce against us
[01:48:06.680 --> 01:48:15.800] and adjust. I'm struggling here because I don't want to sound like a conspiracy therapist.
[01:48:18.520 --> 01:48:24.440] You don't have to theorize very much when you see everything that's coming together to violate our
[01:48:24.440 --> 01:48:29.160] rights. But you've got this prosecutor out here and he's trying to protect his public and he's
[01:48:29.160 --> 01:48:35.000] got all these bad guys he's dealing with and he's struggling to clear his docket. He's not the bad
[01:48:35.000 --> 01:48:42.440] guy. Okay, he may be doing things that we think are bad. If he were wanting to do things right,
[01:48:43.080 --> 01:48:49.320] then he would not have already abused these systems and done so many false arrests and
[01:48:49.320 --> 01:48:54.440] false positives. How do I keep this child abuser off the street?
[01:48:58.760 --> 01:49:04.280] We've got a prosecutor here who's straddling this line. Who do I prosecute?
[01:49:04.280 --> 01:49:08.600] He's not straddling. He owns the line. He thinks he does.
[01:49:11.080 --> 01:49:19.480] Both sides of the line are him. I'm saying there needs to be none of this, no fishing expedition,
[01:49:19.480 --> 01:49:25.880] no violations of fourth amendment, no violations of people being compelled essentially to give
[01:49:25.880 --> 01:49:33.160] evidence against themselves. The fifth amendment says nobody can be compelled to give evidence.
[01:49:33.160 --> 01:49:40.520] Well, what happens every single time one of these little radio transceivers tries to talk
[01:49:40.520 --> 01:49:46.440] to your phone and it uniquely identifies that you were here at a certain time, time stamps it,
[01:49:46.440 --> 01:49:55.400] and it puts, you know, it says that you had your earbuds, your little wireless earbuds with you.
[01:49:55.400 --> 01:49:58.760] It identifies that your wife or your granddaughter was in the car.
[01:49:58.760 --> 01:50:04.520] That's giving evidence, being compelled to give evidence against one of themselves.
[01:50:06.760 --> 01:50:13.560] What's the alternative? How do we move ahead? The technology's here. We cannot make the technology
[01:50:13.560 --> 01:50:19.960] go away. Same as anything else. Anybody who's going to use the technology must follow the law
[01:50:19.960 --> 01:50:24.360] as it's written. You better get somebody with some facts, somebody that has some personal knowledge
[01:50:24.360 --> 01:50:29.240] and can swear to something. They can bring a sworn statement. There can be a judicial
[01:50:29.240 --> 01:50:35.560] signature on a search warrant and then they can go on their fishing expedition. But it will be
[01:50:35.560 --> 01:50:41.560] at least supported by a sworn statement of facts by somebody who can be held accountable for perjury.
[01:50:42.680 --> 01:50:50.200] Perfect. Thank you. Great show. We'll be back tomorrow night on our four hour info rarefied.
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