ROL_2025-04-04_16k.timecode

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[00:30.000 --> 00:32.000]  Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[00:32.000 --> 00:34.000]  Bad boys, bad boys
[00:34.000 --> 00:35.000]  Whatcha gonna do?
[00:35.000 --> 00:37.000]  Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[00:37.000 --> 00:40.000]  When you were eight and you had bad traits
[00:40.000 --> 00:43.000]  You go to school and learn the golden rule
[00:43.000 --> 00:46.000]  So why are you acting like a bloody fool?
[00:46.000 --> 00:48.000]  If you get hot then you must get cool!
[00:48.000 --> 00:50.000]  Bad boys, bad boys
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[00:57.000 --> 00:59.000]  Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[00:59.000 --> 01:01.000]  You chuck it on that one
[01:01.000 --> 01:03.000]  You chuck it on each one
[01:03.000 --> 01:04.000]  You chuck it on your mother
[01:04.000 --> 01:05.000]  And you chuck it on your father
[01:05.000 --> 01:06.000]  You chuck it on your brother
[01:06.000 --> 01:08.000]  And you chuck it on your sister
[01:08.000 --> 01:09.000]  You chuck it on that one
[01:09.000 --> 01:10.000]  And you chuck it on me!
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[01:32.000 --> 01:37.000]  Nobody now give you no break. Police now give you no break.
[01:37.000 --> 01:43.000]  That old soldier man now give you no break. Not even your agent now give you no breaks.
[01:43.000 --> 01:49.000]  Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do? What you gonna do when they come for you?
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[01:54.000 --> 01:59.000]  Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do? What you gonna do when they come for you?
[01:59.000 --> 02:06.000]  Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do? What you gonna do when they come for you?
[02:25.000 --> 02:32.000]  Why did you have to act so mean? Don't you know you're a human being?
[02:32.000 --> 02:37.000]  Born of a mother with a lover. If a father reflection comes and reflection goes.
[02:37.000 --> 02:48.000]  I know sometimes you wanna let go. I know sometimes you wanna let go.
[02:48.000 --> 02:54.000]  Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do? What you gonna do when they come for you?
[02:54.000 --> 02:59.000]  Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do? What you gonna do when they come for you?
[02:59.000 --> 03:10.000]  You're too bad, you're too rude. You're too bad, you're too rude.
[03:10.000 --> 03:16.000]  Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do? What you gonna do when they come for you?
[03:16.000 --> 03:21.000]  Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do? What you gonna do when they come for you?
[03:21.000 --> 03:27.000]  You chuck it on that one, you chuck it on this one. You chuck it on your mother and you chuck it on your father.
[03:27.000 --> 03:32.000]  You chuck it on your brother and you chuck it on your sisters. You chuck it on that one and you chuck it on me!
[03:32.000 --> 03:37.000]  Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do? What you gonna do when they come for you?
[03:37.000 --> 03:43.000]  Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do? What you gonna do when they come for you?
[03:46.000 --> 03:55.320]  Okay, howdy, howdy, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, no, not Brett Fountain.
[03:55.320 --> 03:58.600]  He's out working today, so he's not on with us.
[03:58.600 --> 04:01.880]  We got better than Brett Fountain, that chump.
[04:01.880 --> 04:04.680]  We got Pastor Massad and Nick Gloggeley.
[04:04.680 --> 04:09.080]  It's always good to have Pastor Massad on the show.
[04:09.440 --> 04:11.840]  Pastor, say hi to everybody.
[04:11.840 --> 04:17.720]  And I know you have, both Nick and the pastor have their own subjects.
[04:17.720 --> 04:19.480]  So let's start with you, Pastor.
[04:19.480 --> 04:20.320]  What do you have?
[04:20.320 --> 04:21.760]  Wait a minute, wait a minute.
[04:21.760 --> 04:28.760]  This is Friday, the fourth day of April 2025.
[04:28.760 --> 04:34.000]  And Brett would be glad to know I got that right.
[04:34.000 --> 04:35.480]  Okay, Pastor.
[04:35.480 --> 04:38.120]  Randy, how are you tonight?
[04:39.160 --> 04:41.440]  I'm pretty good for an old fat guy.
[04:41.440 --> 04:44.880]  I'll tell you what, I tell everybody the exact same thing whenever they ask about
[04:44.880 --> 04:45.400]  you.
[04:45.400 --> 04:46.800]  Well, thank you.
[04:46.800 --> 04:48.560]  You're so welcome.
[04:48.560 --> 04:57.680]  It's nice to know I'm so well considered.
[04:57.680 --> 05:00.760]  So not only well considered, but I would actually say treasured.
[05:03.280 --> 05:04.240]  Buried treasure.
[05:06.200 --> 05:07.200]  Absolutely.
[05:07.200 --> 05:11.520]  Randy, I know that your listeners frequently talk about law.
[05:12.720 --> 05:19.800]  But I wanna take a couple of minutes and look at some of what's going on in the nation.
[05:19.800 --> 05:23.280]  Because I know you don't always pay attention to news, but
[05:23.280 --> 05:26.880]  Nick and I are constantly talking about things and paying attention.
[05:26.880 --> 05:31.240]  And the hot news tonight is the tariffs.
[05:31.760 --> 05:38.480]  And I'm interested, it's interesting I think to watch what's going on on Wall Street.
[05:38.480 --> 05:42.920]  Because for the longest time I've always said that those investors are,
[05:42.920 --> 05:48.520]  they kind of whine like little girls, and they're always panicking.
[05:49.520 --> 05:56.760]  And the reality is that if you dig a little deeper, I think there's a reason for it.
[05:56.760 --> 05:59.160]  And it has a lot to do with two things.
[05:59.200 --> 06:02.600]  One, their entitlement, and I'll come back to that in a second.
[06:02.600 --> 06:06.120]  And two, their income.
[06:07.280 --> 06:16.440]  And they've become very accustomed to always making money all the time.
[06:17.960 --> 06:21.840]  And anytime that is threatened or interrupted and the market dips at all,
[06:21.840 --> 06:23.200]  they all panic right away.
[06:23.200 --> 06:24.280]  My goodness, how can this be?
[06:24.280 --> 06:25.040]  How can we allow this?
[06:25.040 --> 06:25.840]  How can this be happening?
[06:25.840 --> 06:26.800]  We can't put up with it.
[06:26.800 --> 06:28.000]  We can't stand it.
[06:28.040 --> 06:29.560]  And the markets fall.
[06:29.560 --> 06:33.800]  And because everybody looks at Wall Street as if it is the only
[06:33.800 --> 06:37.840]  enterprise in America, it gets everybody concerned and fear.
[06:39.000 --> 06:44.960]  In reality, Main Street is much more important than Wall Street.
[06:44.960 --> 06:48.320]  And I don't want to suggest for a second that Wall Street is not important.
[06:48.320 --> 06:51.800]  But I believe Main Street is much more important than Wall Street.
[06:51.800 --> 06:57.840]  And I want to take a peek for a second at why Wall Street has been booming.
[06:57.840 --> 07:00.320]  And why Main Street's been suffering.
[07:00.320 --> 07:04.800]  And if you look at it, the reality is that what benefits Wall Street
[07:04.800 --> 07:07.720]  are these incredibly loose monetary policies.
[07:08.960 --> 07:13.520]  And that has made everything skyrocket in value.
[07:14.520 --> 07:16.520]  Because the Fed has been so loose with money,
[07:16.520 --> 07:19.800]  because they've been printing money hand over fist.
[07:19.800 --> 07:22.880]  And what you have is incredible asset inflation all over the country.
[07:23.680 --> 07:28.720]  And because of that, Wall Street is always making money hand over fist.
[07:30.000 --> 07:33.760]  But that has been at the demise of the middle class.
[07:35.120 --> 07:36.880]  And you can say, well, wait a second, wait a second.
[07:36.880 --> 07:41.680]  I mean, we can buy cheap t-shirts at Walmart and Target, and that's good.
[07:43.040 --> 07:46.480]  Okay, but life is a lot more than cheap t-shirts.
[07:47.120 --> 07:48.800]  Middle class can't buy houses anymore.
[07:49.440 --> 07:50.880]  Housing has become unreachable.
[07:51.840 --> 07:52.960]  Eggs are off the charts.
[07:54.000 --> 07:55.440]  Gas got crazy expensive.
[07:56.000 --> 07:57.120]  Cars have been expensive.
[07:58.000 --> 08:00.720]  All of this has benefited one class.
[08:00.720 --> 08:04.400]  And that is these investors, this investor class, this elite class.
[08:05.120 --> 08:11.520]  And I think it's important to begin to take a look at why they are prospering
[08:11.520 --> 08:13.200]  to the levels that they are prospering.
[08:13.200 --> 08:18.080]  There is no excuse for them having these runaway incomes and these runaway profits.
[08:18.080 --> 08:20.480]  It's only because they've been aided and abetted.
[08:20.480 --> 08:25.280]  I'll use that word because I know you know that term, Randy, from a legal perspective.
[08:25.280 --> 08:28.720]  They've been aided and abetted by actors in the government
[08:28.720 --> 08:31.440]  who've been allowing and enabling this stuff to happen.
[08:32.320 --> 08:36.480]  And so having thrown that out to you, the guy who really understands law,
[08:36.480 --> 08:38.400]  I'm curious what your thoughts are on it.
[08:38.400 --> 08:41.680]  Well, I care.
[08:44.640 --> 08:47.280]  I mean, I get what they're doing.
[08:48.400 --> 08:52.080]  We think that we're doing okay.
[08:52.080 --> 08:58.480]  But what we're not paying attention to, these investors are making a lot of money.
[08:58.480 --> 09:01.120]  But I don't know why that's questionable.
[09:02.400 --> 09:04.080]  The Fed is printing a lot of money.
[09:04.080 --> 09:09.440]  So the investors are moving a lot of a lot more money.
[09:10.560 --> 09:14.080]  But the value hasn't effectively changed.
[09:14.800 --> 09:16.400]  The value has dropped precipitously.
[09:16.960 --> 09:18.480]  Well, the value is the same.
[09:18.480 --> 09:23.200]  It just takes a whole lot more dollars now to get those products
[09:23.200 --> 09:25.360]  because they've inflated, they've weakened the dollar.
[09:25.920 --> 09:30.640]  Well, then the value, the value we're talking about is the dollars, Randy.
[09:30.880 --> 09:34.880]  Every time they weaken the dollar, my salary doesn't go up.
[09:36.480 --> 09:38.160]  But your buying power goes way down.
[09:39.280 --> 09:44.320]  So it costs me as the middle class, it costs me more for everything.
[09:44.320 --> 09:51.200]  The upper class, the investor class, they're getting all these extra dollars.
[09:51.200 --> 09:56.320]  So I don't know so much that they're getting wealthy.
[09:56.320 --> 09:58.480]  They're just staying ahead of inflation.
[09:59.280 --> 10:00.320]  I don't know if that's true.
[10:00.880 --> 10:02.880]  What's happening is you're getting, because of the inflation,
[10:02.880 --> 10:05.120]  you're getting a tremendous asset inflation.
[10:07.360 --> 10:08.560]  Yeah, everything costs more.
[10:09.200 --> 10:13.840]  Yeah, but some of these higher end things are inflating so much.
[10:13.840 --> 10:18.720]  For example, there's no reason that the average median house should be $400,000 in America today.
[10:20.640 --> 10:21.120]  I agree.
[10:21.840 --> 10:24.400]  So what's happening is it's pricing it out of people's,
[10:24.960 --> 10:26.320]  completely out of people's reach.
[10:26.480 --> 10:29.600]  So my reason for bringing this up is one of the first things that I look at
[10:29.600 --> 10:36.400]  is as Donald Trump begins to take a stand for the American worker and saying,
[10:36.400 --> 10:38.480]  we're not going to outsource your jobs anymore.
[10:38.480 --> 10:41.600]  We're going to begin demanding that they come back here to the US.
[10:41.600 --> 10:45.840]  And we're not going to allow these other countries to do what they've been doing to us,
[10:45.840 --> 10:46.800]  to interfere.
[10:47.760 --> 10:50.400]  It's going to take a little time to do it, but we're going to do it.
[10:50.400 --> 10:53.760]  And that's going to begin to lift up the middle class again,
[10:54.240 --> 10:56.960]  because they are the backbone of the nation.
[10:58.880 --> 11:04.960]  And I would think that these investors would recognize that what Trump is doing
[11:06.240 --> 11:08.160]  will stabilize our economy.
[11:08.800 --> 11:11.680]  I'm not an economist, but I've been around a while.
[11:12.640 --> 11:20.800]  And it's real easy for me to understand that if I'm an American manufacturer,
[11:20.800 --> 11:26.400]  and I have to pay a 30, 40, 50% tariff to sell my product in China,
[11:28.080 --> 11:32.480]  that my product becomes that much more expensive in China.
[11:33.600 --> 11:36.960]  And I lose business to the Chinese.
[11:38.560 --> 11:41.040]  And then we don't have equal tariffs on them.
[11:42.080 --> 11:47.120]  So I can't sell my products, they can sell their products to me.
[11:47.760 --> 11:51.920]  That on its face is not equitable and it's not sustainable.
[11:53.120 --> 11:54.960]  No, and it's been bankrupting the United States.
[11:54.960 --> 11:56.720]  We have the incredible trade imbalances.
[11:56.720 --> 11:59.600]  When you look at Canada, for example, Canada has a 250%
[12:01.600 --> 12:06.960]  tariff that they put on American dairy and farm products, 250%.
[12:08.400 --> 12:10.960]  How American farmers going to sell their product in Canada?
[12:11.600 --> 12:16.000]  And yet we allow Canada to dump all kinds of steel and things like that here.
[12:16.640 --> 12:19.200]  I think what Donald Trump's doing is absolutely tremendous.
[12:19.200 --> 12:22.640]  And it's just a matter of time before it turns things around, but it will take some time.
[12:24.320 --> 12:29.280]  And I suspect that in Wall Street, there are a lot of really smart people.
[12:30.480 --> 12:35.520]  And then there are a lot of people in there who are not so smart and a lot more volatile.
[12:36.320 --> 12:39.600]  And they don't understand the big picture.
[12:40.240 --> 12:47.520]  When things change, they get frantic and they start selling off and drive the prices down.
[12:50.640 --> 12:52.160]  It's just a fringe.
[12:52.160 --> 12:57.280]  The vast majority of those investors are far more sophisticated than that.
[12:57.280 --> 12:59.760]  They're watching the stops drop.
[13:00.560 --> 13:04.960]  They are likely to wait till it bottoms out and then buy in.
[13:05.840 --> 13:13.440]  I hope so. But you'd be presuming that most investors act rationally. Reality is, I think
[13:13.440 --> 13:19.360]  most of them tend to act emotionally and they jump out way too early and get back in way too late.
[13:19.360 --> 13:26.560]  Yeah. But the core, the professionals, the ones that do this for a living,
[13:27.600 --> 13:29.200]  they understand how this works.
[13:30.000 --> 13:31.440]  They understand how this works.
[13:33.440 --> 13:39.680]  It's not the professional investor that's so volatile in the market.
[13:41.200 --> 13:45.040]  It's these guys running a hedge fund that have to show a profit every month
[13:45.040 --> 13:46.160]  to their superiors.
[13:47.040 --> 13:52.720]  And when one of these stops start dropping, he's going to have to go to his superiors
[13:52.720 --> 13:56.400]  and they're not going to be amenable to, oh, don't worry, it's going to come back up.
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[16:19.440 --> 16:42.560]  The world is spinning like it's out of control, on the edge of a hole, inside a deep dark
[16:43.200 --> 16:45.200]  hole.
[16:45.200 --> 16:49.200]  I'm always on the lookout for something to soothe my soul.
[16:49.200 --> 17:05.200]  So I sit back and I watch the evidence unfold and I see justice is the goal, yeah, justice
[17:05.200 --> 17:07.200]  is the goal.
[17:07.360 --> 17:08.800]  Okay, we are back.
[17:08.800 --> 17:14.800]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio with our special guests, Pastor Massad
[17:14.800 --> 17:16.160]  and Nick Gologli.
[17:16.160 --> 17:22.240]  Nick, as you might have been able to tell, I was kind of stumbling around there because
[17:22.240 --> 17:26.000]  I'm absolutely out of my depth here.
[17:26.000 --> 17:28.640]  Can you explain what the pastor was talking about?
[17:29.280 --> 17:34.480]  I don't know if I can explain, but I can certainly ask questions to get some sort of
[17:35.200 --> 17:40.160]  clarification and, Randy, I appreciate you having me back on even though you know kind
[17:40.160 --> 17:42.960]  of how I operate from the last time we spoke.
[17:44.560 --> 17:50.160]  I'll get into some questions here because it sounds like, and Pastor, you can clarify
[17:50.160 --> 17:56.320]  on this, it sounds like you're saying that, I'm trying to get this as accurate as I possibly
[17:56.320 --> 18:03.440]  can, it sounds like you're saying that the folks on Wall Street are attempting to crash
[18:03.440 --> 18:10.320]  the market to create some sort of change to policies that are unfavorable to them,
[18:10.320 --> 18:11.920]  is that kind of where you're coming from?
[18:12.560 --> 18:16.480]  Good Lord, you got that out of what I said, glory to God.
[18:19.120 --> 18:22.400]  Were you and Randy out drinking tonight, what, in the world?
[18:24.000 --> 18:25.120]  No, it's what you saw.
[18:25.120 --> 18:32.480]  So I mean, I took some notes here and you were saying that what I understand is that
[18:33.680 --> 18:39.600]  the Wall Street folks were overreacting because they weren't making money, they don't want
[18:39.600 --> 18:46.880]  policies that are going to work best for the people who are walking up and down Main Street
[18:46.880 --> 18:53.520]  every day and who are working blue collar jobs and who are doing your typical 40 hour plus
[18:54.160 --> 18:58.880]  work week to benefit if it means that it's going to cost them any money.
[18:58.880 --> 19:05.840]  So if I'm entirely off, you can correct me, but that's what I was gleaning from what you were
[19:05.840 --> 19:11.440]  saying. Yeah, no, that wasn't at all, they're certainly not trying to change policy, it's just
[19:11.440 --> 19:24.320]  that this is what has been their life for decades now. Because when George Bush came into office,
[19:25.280 --> 19:30.400]  George Bush, the one who presided over September 11th, not his father, but him.
[19:30.400 --> 19:31.200]  W, yeah.
[19:31.200 --> 19:35.440]  W, there was a balanced budget. And there was a budget surplus.
[19:35.440 --> 19:37.440]  Quintin, yeah, Quintin did, yeah.
[19:37.440 --> 19:48.560]  Okay, and with September 11th, as part of it, the surplus was gone. And so we only have to go back
[19:48.560 --> 19:52.800]  20, 25 years, whatever that was, to that point to know that we had a balanced budget. Now,
[19:52.800 --> 19:58.720]  without going into the economics of what was going on at the time, we at least were at that
[19:58.720 --> 20:10.720]  point. How do we now have $36 trillion in debt? And after September 11th, in order to stimulate
[20:10.720 --> 20:17.760]  the economy, because the country was in trouble after that attack, policies were enacted that
[20:17.760 --> 20:26.640]  loosened the money. All those loose money policies made bazillions of dollars for Wall Street.
[20:28.000 --> 20:37.040]  All those loose money policies and big money coming in led us to the 2008 housing crisis.
[20:39.120 --> 20:46.480]  We then bailed out Wall Street with enormous sums of money. I can remember-
[20:46.480 --> 20:48.640]  Hundreds of billions of dollars, yeah.
[20:48.640 --> 20:49.840]  I think it was even more than that.
[20:49.840 --> 20:53.120]  I don't think it hit the rails, but yeah, hundreds of billions, yeah.
[20:53.120 --> 20:58.000]  It came pretty close to a trillion dollars or more. And, Randy, I think, and it was actually
[20:58.000 --> 21:04.240]  way bigger than that because, Randy, you'll remember that they developed a policy called
[21:04.240 --> 21:07.520]  quantitative easing. Now, that was a fancy term.
[21:07.520 --> 21:08.640]  I remember that too, yeah.
[21:08.640 --> 21:13.680]  That was a fancy term that basically said, well, if people can't pay the mortgages,
[21:13.680 --> 21:17.840]  then the government will just print up enough money to buy them so the banks don't go under.
[21:18.640 --> 21:22.320]  We will cover for the banks. We've already given them almost a trillion dollars,
[21:22.320 --> 21:25.920]  but now we're going to continue to cover for them because we can't have banks fail.
[21:27.200 --> 21:31.200]  They're too important to us. And, Randy, I remember you and I talking on our show
[21:32.160 --> 21:40.720]  back years ago about the, when, was it Lehman Brothers, I believe it was the first bank to fail.
[21:40.720 --> 21:42.960]  You could see, you could see the fear.
[21:42.960 --> 21:45.120]  Let me speak to that for a moment.
[21:45.120 --> 21:48.960]  Well, one second, then go ahead. But you could see the fear in the faces of George
[21:48.960 --> 21:52.000]  Bush and some of the other people as they were talking about it. You could see
[21:52.000 --> 21:56.640]  the fear that they realized they were on board the Titanic and it was about to go down.
[21:56.640 --> 21:57.360]  Go ahead.
[21:57.360 --> 21:59.440]  No, I don't believe that one minute.
[21:59.440 --> 22:00.640]  Okay, go ahead.
[22:00.640 --> 22:07.040]  They knew exactly what they were doing. After the depression in 29, they passed the Glass-Steagall
[22:07.040 --> 22:15.760]  Act and they passed into law a prohibition against naked short selling.
[22:17.200 --> 22:24.640]  This was to prevent another depression like we had in 29. In 1990,
[22:25.440 --> 22:32.960]  they put together this mortgage scheme, or they started putting it together. 1999,
[22:33.920 --> 22:43.680]  they removed, they repealed the Glass-Steagall Act. And the last thing the legislature did
[22:44.720 --> 22:51.040]  in the year, in 1999, just before the turn of the millennium, the last thing the legislature
[22:51.040 --> 22:56.960]  did before it closed Syndi was remove the restriction against naked short selling.
[22:56.960 --> 23:05.600]  And then they, I'm sorry, naked short selling not yet. They removed the Glass-Steagall Act
[23:05.600 --> 23:15.120]  and that allowed for derivative sales. Or they could get a mortgage, get a insurance policy on
[23:15.120 --> 23:23.440]  that mortgage, and then take that mortgage and create another one from it and factor it,
[23:23.440 --> 23:27.920]  sell it to an investor and put an insurance policy on that one.
[23:27.920 --> 23:34.880]  They would do this. China accused Bank of America of selling them the same mortgage 60 times.
[23:36.240 --> 23:42.640]  So now what they want to do is they want to collect payments from the mortgagee
[23:44.160 --> 23:52.640]  until he has paid off 15% of the principle. Because his insurance policy will pay off
[23:52.640 --> 23:58.800]  85% of the principle. Once you've paid off 15% of the principle, they want to
[23:59.920 --> 24:06.080]  crash that. They want to foreclose on the loan. They want you to default.
[24:06.800 --> 24:13.360]  Then all these insurance companies pace off. So if they sold it 60 times, they get paid 60
[24:13.360 --> 24:18.720]  times for that mortgage. During that period, they would write mortgages for anybody. If you could
[24:19.440 --> 24:22.240]  stand and breathe and sign your name, they'd write your mortgage.
[24:22.960 --> 24:24.640]  That's because they didn't want you to pay it back.
[24:26.640 --> 24:31.440]  If you paid the mortgage back, every time you made a payment, they have to make a payment on
[24:31.440 --> 24:40.480]  these 60 mortgages they sold. So they only want to do that until 15% is down. Then default the loan
[24:41.360 --> 24:48.080]  and the insurance company pays everything off and they get paid 60 times. They have sold 59
[24:48.080 --> 24:55.280]  loans that didn't exist. So the first one, they have to pay the mortgage off,
[24:55.280 --> 24:58.480]  but the rest of them doesn't have a mortgage. That's all profit.
[24:59.760 --> 25:04.800]  That's why when we were fighting foreclosures, the bank did not care what they spent
[25:05.760 --> 25:11.120]  to beat a foreclosure. They simply could not afford us to win, period.
[25:11.760 --> 25:23.600]  In 2007 in July, they removed the restriction on naked short selling.
[25:23.600 --> 25:30.720]  In August, they used naked short selling to bankrupt Shearson Lehman. That was done
[25:30.720 --> 25:38.080]  absolutely intentionally. That's what I understand happened in the
[25:38.080 --> 25:43.440]  2008 housing crash. That's what I'm talking about.
[25:43.440 --> 25:49.760]  Yeah. I don't know if we can redirect it back to the tariffs that we were talking about,
[25:49.760 --> 25:51.760]  because that was mainly what my question was about.
[25:52.240 --> 26:00.480]  Okay. I just want to know, because if what I had written down while you were talking was that it
[26:00.480 --> 26:07.760]  seemed that your contention was that the wealthy in the country, the people who have more sway and
[26:07.760 --> 26:17.440]  pull in the stock market are attempting to change policy by negatively affecting the stock market,
[26:17.440 --> 26:26.880]  because they don't want to see people who are in the working class be more successful than they are.
[26:27.520 --> 26:30.560]  No, I'm not saying that at all. What I'm saying is they've become accustomed
[26:31.120 --> 26:39.760]  to free money, easy money policies that support that. As soon as they stop making big money,
[26:39.760 --> 26:42.960]  they complain loudly, because their interests are not Main Street's interests.
[26:42.960 --> 26:45.440]  Complaining through crashing the stock market?
[26:45.440 --> 26:47.040]  No, not at all. The market is falling.
[26:47.040 --> 26:49.920]  Well, I mean, it is falling significantly today.
[26:49.920 --> 26:54.640]  They're not doing it. In the last two days, it's gone down 1,600 points a day. That's a lot.
[26:55.600 --> 26:56.880]  Right, because of the tariffs.
[26:57.840 --> 26:58.720]  Because of fear.
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[30:11.280 --> 30:18.080]  Yeah, I got a warrant and I'm gonna solve them
[30:19.920 --> 30:25.120]  to the help of government them, prosecute them. Okay.
[30:25.840 --> 30:27.840]  Okay.
[30:33.200 --> 30:34.240]  For Mr. Bush,
[30:35.920 --> 30:44.240]  this is a race for the team. Well, I need a prosecutor to come and help me prosecute
[30:44.240 --> 30:49.920]  them wicked leader. Yeah, you see, they might be a liar. They tell me they're lying. I tell
[30:49.920 --> 30:55.280]  sweet stories. I don't believe what they tell me. 3% of America vote for Bush.
[30:55.840 --> 31:00.160]  So how the hell do you get the presidency? That's why we have a warrant for you.
[31:01.120 --> 31:04.320]  Everybody listen carefully. Listen to the words of the three shoes.
[31:04.800 --> 31:07.920]  This is a race for Mr. Bush.
[31:14.480 --> 31:15.280]  This is a race.
[31:27.120 --> 31:32.720]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kaltenberg, Fountain Rouge, L'Oreal. Here with our special guest,
[31:33.360 --> 31:39.680]  Pastor Massad and Nick Gloggoli. Now, they're out of upstate New York.
[31:40.560 --> 31:46.480]  So don't hold that against them. Go ahead, hold that against them. Okay.
[31:47.600 --> 31:56.640]  When we went out, we were talking about the fear of the terrorists. I'm not an expert in finance,
[31:56.640 --> 32:04.480]  but I listened to what's going on. And to me, it looks like we will benefit greatly from this.
[32:06.000 --> 32:11.040]  So why are all of these investors dumping all their stocks?
[32:13.520 --> 32:19.760]  Well, again, I think it's them being reactionary. I don't believe-
[32:19.760 --> 32:25.840]  Sure. I'm glad you said that, because when you said that they're not acting rationally,
[32:27.520 --> 32:32.880]  I actually wrote down a note that investors don't act rationally. They react reactionary.
[32:36.240 --> 32:42.320]  That's typically how they react. It sounds funny to say it, but they react in a reactive way.
[32:43.200 --> 32:51.280]  Yeah, not all investors. Some investors who understand time and the way things move in
[32:51.280 --> 32:57.680]  cycles, they don't panic. But most people, fear is a very strong motivator. And the fear of loss
[32:57.680 --> 33:01.840]  is a very strong motivator in the market. And people will immediately, upon fear of loss,
[33:01.840 --> 33:07.280]  look to bail out of things. Sure, which is why there were plenty of people
[33:07.920 --> 33:20.720]  during the COVID-19 pandemic when the markets crashed prior to, I think it was spring of 2020,
[33:20.720 --> 33:28.240]  I think is when it was, that the markets crashed, biggest single day drop. And all of those people
[33:28.240 --> 33:33.920]  who you would think who shouldn't be afraid of things, but seem to be afraid of things,
[33:33.920 --> 33:42.240]  are the people who made the most from the crisis. The Nancy Pelosi, the Jeff Bezos,
[33:42.240 --> 33:48.320]  the Gates, I'm talking about Bill, not Matt Gates, and Elon Musk, those type of people,
[33:48.320 --> 33:53.680]  increased their wealth significantly during a downturn of the stock market.
[33:54.480 --> 34:00.080]  I'm listening to Trump saying, oh, he's going to put all these tariffs on everybody. They're all
[34:00.080 --> 34:03.760]  saying, oh, we're going to have a trade war. And if I'm an investor and I don't have to be a horrible
[34:03.760 --> 34:10.240]  terribly sophisticated investor, it is very clear to me that when Trump puts on these tariffs,
[34:11.040 --> 34:13.680]  the stock market is going to go down precipitously.
[34:15.360 --> 34:21.760]  And then it's going to come back up. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.
[34:22.320 --> 34:33.840]  But Wall Street tends to be very nearsighted. They're not looking for what's going to happen
[34:33.840 --> 34:37.680]  in the country over the course of the next two years, five years, 10 years. They only want to
[34:37.680 --> 34:43.600]  know about the profits they can lock in today. But I'm not an investor and I look at this and
[34:43.600 --> 34:49.360]  this is clear. How can they miss this? If I'm hearing Trump saying all this stuff,
[34:49.360 --> 34:53.360]  I'm going to be selling. And when Trump puts in all these tariffs-
[34:53.360 --> 34:55.120]  Sure, selling causes it to go down.
[34:55.120 --> 35:02.960]  Yeah, they're selling before he announces, I'm going to be quietly moving out of this stock into
[35:02.960 --> 35:09.760]  another one, into one that will hedge against this drop, gold, silver, something hard.
[35:10.720 --> 35:17.040]  And then when the market drops, I'll come back and buy at the bottom or close to the bottom.
[35:17.200 --> 35:18.320]  I think that's what's happening.
[35:19.040 --> 35:24.640]  Yes, that's why I'm thinking on the break, I was talking to Pastor Massey, I was in combat.
[35:25.440 --> 35:30.880]  And in combat, you got to be careful. When your opponent does something really stupid,
[35:32.240 --> 35:35.840]  don't run in there and try to beat him up. No, no, no, no, no, no.
[35:36.480 --> 35:42.880]  These guys are all doing life and death. You cannot assume they're stupid, especially the
[35:42.880 --> 35:51.280]  Vietnamese. That's the only army that defeated Genghis Khan. These guys are anything but stupid.
[35:51.920 --> 35:57.840]  It's interesting that you bring up Vietnam because I work for a very large furniture
[35:58.400 --> 36:08.080]  manufacturer that sources a lot of their product from Vietnam. And I don't know if either you know
[36:08.080 --> 36:15.680]  this, but the representatives from the Vietnamese government were in Washington DC today trying to
[36:15.680 --> 36:27.200]  negotiate the tariffs with the Trump administration. And this is why I'm kind of halfway
[36:28.080 --> 36:35.200]  between where I view you two as being and where I view the people who are absolutely panicked
[36:35.200 --> 36:46.000]  about things is because our manufacturer is looking into investing more into the United States
[36:47.840 --> 36:54.880]  as opposed to getting most of the things from the other countries that they get it from. So I see
[36:54.880 --> 37:04.160]  that as perhaps a positive, but I would ask does it cost more for these manufacturers to pay a
[37:04.160 --> 37:12.320]  tariff on imported goods or does it cost more for these manufacturers to pay American workers
[37:12.320 --> 37:17.200]  and American companies to do that same work? And I think that's what it's going to come down to.
[37:18.320 --> 37:22.960]  Strictly a calculation. The Vietnamese agreed to zero out all their tariffs.
[37:27.280 --> 37:31.840]  These guys knew what was happening. What I'm thinking is they knew they saw what was coming
[37:31.840 --> 37:37.280]  beforehand. And like you and I who have nothing to do with any of that,
[37:37.280 --> 37:43.520]  we may not understand what's going on, but they do. When I was in combat, both sides are in combat.
[37:44.480 --> 37:48.880]  And when you're doing life and death, you're not going to do anything really, really stupid.
[37:48.880 --> 37:52.960]  It's going to get you wiped out. So when my opponent does something that appears to be
[37:52.960 --> 37:59.680]  really, really stupid, and I want to say, goody, now I get to go beat him up. Everybody
[38:00.640 --> 38:07.040]  that was there would say, whoa, hold on. Let's not run out there too quickly.
[38:07.040 --> 38:13.440]  And- Sure, and I think that's the strength of Donald Trump is that Donald Trump is not
[38:13.440 --> 38:19.760]  some guy walking up to a giant and saying, I'm going to take you down.
[38:19.760 --> 38:24.240]  Donald Trump has the full power and wealth of the United States behind him. He's
[38:24.800 --> 38:29.840]  David walking up to Goliath. Not that David has any power necessarily,
[38:29.840 --> 38:36.320]  but that David is backed by the power. Everybody that's in business knew what
[38:36.320 --> 38:41.120]  Donald Trump was doing. Yeah, I'm going to put on his horrible outrageous tariffs.
[38:42.160 --> 38:44.560]  And then he just threw out a poker hand.
[38:46.720 --> 38:52.880]  Reminds me of Ronald Reagan. He took down the Soviet Union playing poker.
[38:54.240 --> 39:01.840]  He said, if you guys don't pull that wall down, I'm gonna build Star Wars. He didn't have Star
[39:01.840 --> 39:08.160]  Wars. He said, I'll build it. And the Russians, they went to their Russian scientists and said,
[39:08.160 --> 39:13.120]  can he build that? Yeah, he can. Can we defend against it? Yeah, we can, but it'll bankrupt us.
[39:14.080 --> 39:18.640]  He got to bankrupt themselves to defend against a system we never built.
[39:18.640 --> 39:20.080]  This is what Trump is doing.
[39:20.960 --> 39:24.720]  You are correct about that. You are correct about that, Randy, because Donald Trump is
[39:24.720 --> 39:29.440]  definitely playing a game of guts poker. This is the art of the deal, that's for sure.
[39:29.440 --> 39:32.080]  Well, that's why he said that Zelensky doesn't have the cards.
[39:33.200 --> 39:34.400]  That's right, it's very true.
[39:36.400 --> 39:41.440]  They should know. Didn't they read his book? Don't ask for what you want.
[39:44.720 --> 39:49.760]  The problem that I have with this is that even good poker players will lose significantly.
[39:50.400 --> 39:59.360]  And I've been watching the news as I typically do. And the news headlines, and I think this was out
[39:59.360 --> 40:07.520]  of the New York Times, I believe it was, said that Donald Trump is showing during his second term
[40:07.520 --> 40:13.920]  that he has no concern for the amount of risks that he is taking.
[40:14.880 --> 40:18.800]  What risks? Yeah, I agree with you, Randy. What risks?
[40:20.960 --> 40:23.760]  The tariffs are a risk. How? No, they're not.
[40:24.560 --> 40:34.800]  Eventually. So let's look to Canada and the gentleman in Canada who had said that he was
[40:34.800 --> 40:41.520]  going to charge, and I'm not going to get specifics correct here because it's been a couple weeks.
[40:41.520 --> 40:49.440]  It was something like 100 or 200 percent tariff on electricity that was being imported
[40:49.440 --> 40:54.640]  from Canada to certain northeastern states. Wait, hold on. About to go to our sponsors,
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[43:22.320 --> 43:28.160]  Yeah, always, I must be careful what I'm wishing for.
[43:29.520 --> 43:37.520]  When I'm hungry, I like to know just what I'm fishing for. I ain't asking for much. I ain't
[43:37.520 --> 43:44.000]  trying to be no glutton. I'm just here making my living pushing buttons.
[43:44.000 --> 43:55.520]  I give my message out to anyone in shot and distance. I vote for bravery and against slavery,
[43:55.520 --> 44:02.480]  showing resistance. First I'm crawling, then I'm walking, then I start strutting.
[44:02.480 --> 44:06.640]  I'm just so glad to make my living pushing buttons.
[44:14.000 --> 44:21.600]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio with our special guest,
[44:21.600 --> 44:26.400]  Pastor Massad and Nick Gallagherly. Am I pronouncing that right, Nick?
[44:26.400 --> 44:28.800]  Nick Gallagherly It's Irish. It's Gulloghly.
[44:28.800 --> 44:31.200]  Nick Gallagherly Say that again?
[44:31.200 --> 44:33.600]  Nick Gallagherly Gulloghly.
[44:33.600 --> 44:36.880]  Nick Gallagherly But it's never been pronounced right.
[44:36.880 --> 44:41.120]  Nick Gallagherly Okay, then I won't, I won't. I don't want to be inconsistent.
[44:41.120 --> 44:43.680]  Nick Gallagherly Yeah, this is not a concern of mine.
[44:44.160 --> 44:48.720]  Nick Gallagherly In the history of mankind, it's never been pronounced right.
[44:48.720 --> 44:51.840]  Nick Gallagherly For years, doctors have been trying to
[44:51.840 --> 44:56.160]  treat people who try to pronounce it correctly. Nick Gallagherly
[44:56.160 --> 45:02.720]  That's actually how my parents used to figure out who was a, they wouldn't call it a spam call then,
[45:02.720 --> 45:06.960]  but a spam call was how badly they pronounce the last name.
[45:06.960 --> 45:11.120]  Nick Gallagherly Well, it can be overcome. I know how to say
[45:11.120 --> 45:12.720]  Worcester. Nick Gallagherly
[45:12.720 --> 45:15.200]  Good man. It took a while, but we taught you.
[45:15.200 --> 45:16.080]  Nick Gallagherly It did.
[45:16.080 --> 45:20.720]  Nick Gallagherly Okay, who was that we were talking about?
[45:20.720 --> 45:23.440]  Nick Gallagherly We were talking about Doug Ford, who's the
[45:24.240 --> 45:35.280]  Premier of Ontario and his threats of the tariffs on the US electricity, which
[45:36.240 --> 45:44.480]  I view as the reason why Donald Trump didn't double the tariffs on the percentage that he
[45:44.480 --> 45:50.800]  was talking about for the tariffs for Canada on the aluminum. And I think that's why he backed
[45:50.800 --> 45:57.680]  off. I know that they tried to paint it differently. I think that he actually lost the negotiation on
[45:57.680 --> 46:04.320]  that. And so that's why I see one of the reasons that I see that there's a limit to the amount of
[46:04.320 --> 46:09.040]  power that Donald Trump is able to exert on certain allies.
[46:09.040 --> 46:10.640]  Nick Gallagherly And you have to know
[46:11.200 --> 46:19.920]  that Donald Trump knows that. This is poker. He knows he's not going to win every single one of
[46:19.920 --> 46:25.920]  them. Who cares? He's going to win most of them. Nick Gallagherly
[46:26.000 --> 46:36.080]  Yes, sure. But if it's little losses, it's fine. If you're two chips in or three chips in,
[46:36.080 --> 46:40.080]  it's fine. But if you're all in, then that's where the problem might lie.
[46:40.080 --> 46:43.280]  Nick Gallagherly Well, you're assuming that he's going to do
[46:45.200 --> 46:52.080]  the outside limit of what he says he's going to do. When you're playing poker,
[46:52.080 --> 46:55.840]  it's all about getting in the head of the other player.
[46:57.360 --> 47:01.120]  Hey, read his art of the deal. Never ask for what you want.
[47:02.080 --> 47:05.040]  Always ask for a lot more. Give yourself room to negotiate back.
[47:07.200 --> 47:13.280]  Mexico got it. Canada got it. Vietnam got it. Korea got it.
[47:14.320 --> 47:19.440]  They all come to him and say, okay, let's negotiate back. This is your starting point.
[47:19.440 --> 47:23.120]  Now we got a place to work from. Now we find a little.
[47:23.120 --> 47:27.920]  Nick Gallagherly The new Prime Minister of Canada is attempting
[47:27.920 --> 47:33.520]  to manufacture more aluminum in Canada and purchase less from the United States. I don't
[47:33.520 --> 47:37.680]  get how that's a gain for the United States. Nick Gallagherly
[47:37.680 --> 47:43.280]  Well, the United States can gear up aluminum production of their own.
[47:43.280 --> 47:48.960]  Nick Gallagherly Yeah, but if the United States is selling
[47:49.040 --> 47:55.520]  aluminum to Canada and Canada says, okay, if you're going to charge us 50% or whatever the number is
[47:56.320 --> 48:00.640]  on aluminum that we purchased from you and we start manufacturing our own,
[48:00.640 --> 48:02.800]  that means the United States is selling lots of aluminum.
[48:02.800 --> 48:06.240]  Nick Gallagherly One second, one second, guys. You're missing
[48:06.240 --> 48:10.720]  the point. The problem is that Canada has been dumping aluminum here and not allowing us to
[48:10.720 --> 48:16.080]  sell any there. And we've been buying cheap Canadian aluminum and I think cheap Canadian steel.
[48:16.080 --> 48:21.760]  So what's been happening is we've been building these nations and that needs to absolutely stop.
[48:21.760 --> 48:26.800]  That's what Donald Trump is doing. And though you might find an issue like, for example,
[48:26.800 --> 48:33.360]  the electricity. If the governor of Ontario had turned off the electricity quickly,
[48:33.360 --> 48:38.000]  that might have been a serious ploy he could have used. I'm not really sure.
[48:38.000 --> 48:42.080]  Nick Gallagherly But I think it dropped because
[48:42.080 --> 48:45.040]  Donald Trump backed off on the doubling of the tariffs.
[48:45.280 --> 48:50.320]  And I think you're possibly correct. But understand something, in the long run,
[48:50.320 --> 48:55.120]  Canada needs the United States way more than the United States needs Canada. And ultimately,
[48:55.920 --> 48:59.520]  Donald Trump might need to drop back and go, didn't see the electricity thing coming.
[48:59.520 --> 49:04.560]  How do we work around that? And he'll come back and get what he wants. He will eliminate
[49:04.560 --> 49:10.240]  the incredible tariffs that they charge against American products, or they will pay an incredible
[49:10.240 --> 49:16.000]  price that they can't afford to pay. The United States is the biggest trading partner on the
[49:16.000 --> 49:23.600]  planet. Nobody's bigger than us. Nobody makes more stuff than us, nobody. And now there has
[49:23.600 --> 49:28.800]  been a deliberate effort for the last 30, even 40 years to deliberately outsource the greatness
[49:28.800 --> 49:37.520]  of our nation around the world. And then we're paying people to subsidize their economies while
[49:37.520 --> 49:42.960]  ours is going to pot. This was all put together by the globalist. This has, anyone who makes the
[49:42.960 --> 49:49.440]  mistake, listen to this one second. Correct, that's when it all really began. Anyone who
[49:49.440 --> 49:56.560]  makes the mistake of saying that the American companies went and manufactured in other countries
[49:56.560 --> 50:02.240]  because they wanted cheap labor is lying to you. They may not know the truth, but that statement
[50:02.240 --> 50:07.280]  is a lie. That did not drive the companies over there. What drove the companies over there was
[50:07.280 --> 50:11.600]  massive tax breaks and incentives from the US government, because they were functioning here.
[50:11.600 --> 50:16.480]  It was working well. And once they did not just leave the US, one second, they didn't just leave
[50:16.480 --> 50:22.000]  the US for cheap labor. So therefore, why did the government make all those incentives, deals they
[50:22.000 --> 50:26.880]  couldn't turn down, deals they couldn't refuse to outsource all of our greatness?
[50:27.840 --> 50:39.280]  Why not go back to Donald Trump in 2017 and give companies tax incentives and tax breaks
[50:39.840 --> 50:47.520]  to manufacture in the United States rather than to squeeze them to hopefully do so?
[50:48.480 --> 50:51.920]  He gave them breaks to come back here.
[50:51.920 --> 51:00.240]  I have a story about that. I live in DFW area. In 1985, I was driving around looking at all the
[51:00.240 --> 51:06.400]  building that was going on. High-rise is going up everywhere. And I'm looking at this thing,
[51:06.400 --> 51:12.960]  this is crazy. They're building, building, building. This place is growing on its growth.
[51:13.920 --> 51:14.240]  Correct.
[51:14.240 --> 51:17.520]  And then in 1985, everything crashed.
[51:18.400 --> 51:21.520]  And I was there when that happened, Randy. I was there. I remember those
[51:22.080 --> 51:24.960]  office buildings. They call them see-through office buildings.
[51:24.960 --> 51:30.720]  Yeah, everywhere these frames are up there. And one of them I knew of,
[51:30.720 --> 51:37.600]  sat there for 11 years, just a frame. Well, the Dallas and Fort Worth put together a commission,
[51:38.080 --> 51:45.840]  and they got the government to agree to massive tax breaks for business.
[51:45.840 --> 51:51.200]  And oh, the Democrats were just railing in righteous indignation. You're giving these
[51:51.200 --> 51:56.320]  companies all these tax breaks. And these guys said, look, we need them to come here.
[51:57.280 --> 52:01.760]  If they come here, our economy will grow and everybody will benefit.
[52:02.720 --> 52:07.440]  Well, the Republican side won, and they went out and gave all these companies these massive
[52:07.520 --> 52:18.080]  tax breaks. We are now, the DFW area is one of the most fast-growing and prosperous industrial
[52:18.080 --> 52:20.880]  areas in the nation. Yep, that's true.
[52:20.880 --> 52:27.600]  They went to New York. They went to Illinois, where they were taxing companies out of business
[52:27.600 --> 52:37.280]  and say, if you come to us, we won't tax you so heavy. You come to us, you give our people
[52:37.280 --> 52:44.720]  jobs, and we'll take care of you. And that was just good sense. Once his name did that,
[52:47.520 --> 52:52.640]  he ran for president. Well, I'll think of it in a minute. He built an alliance there for it.
[52:53.360 --> 52:59.280]  And it worked. It worked perfectly. Bob, Megan, George Bush, Bill Clinton?
[53:00.240 --> 53:16.640]  No. He had an electrical company. He built electronics and I'll think of it in a second.
[53:16.640 --> 53:22.640]  Anyway, you cannot tax business. Democrats don't get that. You can't tax business.
[53:23.600 --> 53:28.960]  You're talking about parole. The individual pays the tax no matter what.
[53:29.520 --> 53:34.240]  Sure, but isn't a tariff a tax? Not exactly.
[53:34.960 --> 53:38.320]  Yeah, not exactly. Tariff is a trade. But so what?
[53:39.520 --> 53:45.120]  But if it's effectively a tax, then that argument would be the same for a tariff at work, right?
[53:45.120 --> 53:48.720]  Well, you're saying tariff is a tax, but on who? We're already paying.
[53:48.720 --> 53:51.840]  I said effectively. No, it's not. It's not a tax.
[53:51.840 --> 53:55.040]  Negative. Negative. Negative. It is not effectively a tax.
[53:55.040 --> 53:58.800]  It is not effectively a tax. It is effectively a tax because
[54:00.400 --> 54:06.160]  I'm sorry. If I'm buying products from Vietnam and Vietnam is paying a 25%,
[54:07.280 --> 54:11.760]  which is probably where they're going to... I mean, they said they were going to do nothing
[54:11.760 --> 54:17.600]  and these are supposed to be reciprocal tariffs. If they end up being reciprocal tariffs,
[54:17.600 --> 54:20.960]  I don't have a problem with it. But they haven't been up to this point.
[54:21.840 --> 54:27.440]  If Vietnam is paying a 25% tariff to import product to the United States,
[54:27.440 --> 54:32.560]  they're just going to charge 25% more, which means I pay 25% more cost,
[54:32.560 --> 54:37.280]  which means that the cost to my consumer goes up by 50% just to keep the margins right.
[54:40.080 --> 54:45.360]  At the end of the day, I want to say I'm going to defend negative. It's not true
[54:45.360 --> 54:49.360]  because you can buy American, then there's no tariff. So it is not effectively a tax.
[54:50.000 --> 54:55.120]  Sure, you could. You could transition into that, but immediately that's what's going to happen.
[55:02.640 --> 55:07.840]  It takes time to ramp up manufacturing in a different country. In this case,
[55:07.840 --> 55:11.440]  the country being the United States, it's not going to happen in a week.
[55:11.440 --> 55:13.600]  It's going to take six to eight months for it to happen.
[55:14.560 --> 55:15.680]  Perhaps.
[55:17.200 --> 55:22.560]  But unlike a tax, that is an intermediary cost that will go away.
[55:23.280 --> 55:23.680]  That's right.
[55:24.480 --> 55:29.920]  The tax. And if you tax a company, when they sell the product, you pay the tax.
[55:29.920 --> 55:36.480]  The consumer always pays all the tax, period. Hang on, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain,
[55:36.480 --> 55:42.720]  Wheel of Life Radio, I'm going to turn the phone lines on. Nah, I'm going to wait until the next
[55:42.720 --> 55:46.080]  hour to turn the phone lines on. Hang on. We'll be right back.
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[57:00.000 --> 57:04.960]  The Bill of Rights contains the first 10 amendments of our constitution.
[57:04.960 --> 57:08.400]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[57:08.400 --> 57:12.480]  Our liberty depends on it. I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht and I'll be right back with an
[57:12.480 --> 57:15.760]  unforgettable way to remember one of your constitutional rights.
[57:16.320 --> 57:21.760]  Privacy is under attack. When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[57:21.760 --> 57:26.640]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[57:26.640 --> 57:31.920]  So protect your rights. Say no to surveillance and keep your information to yourself.
[57:31.920 --> 57:36.480]  Privacy, it's worth hanging on to. This public service announcement is brought to you by
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[57:48.000 --> 57:51.840]  They pull back the covers and find a third party there. He announces,
[57:51.840 --> 57:56.000]  I'm with the military and I'm sleeping here tonight. That shocking image of a third party
[57:56.000 --> 58:00.000]  in my parents' bed reminds me what the Third Amendment was designed to prevent.
[58:00.000 --> 58:03.360]  It protects us from being forced to share our homes with soldiers,
[58:03.360 --> 58:08.560]  a common demand in the days of our founding fathers. Third party, Third Amendment? Get it?
[58:08.560 --> 58:12.320]  So if you answer a knock at your door and guys in fatigues demand lodging,
[58:12.320 --> 58:16.560]  tell them to dust off their copy of the Bill of Rights and reread the Third Amendment.
[58:16.560 --> 58:20.720]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[58:31.200 --> 58:34.880]  The Bill of Rights contains the first 10 amendments of our Constitution.
[58:34.880 --> 58:38.320]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[58:38.320 --> 58:42.320]  Our liberty depends on it. I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht and I'll be right back with an
[58:42.320 --> 58:45.680]  unforgettable way to remember one of your constitutional rights.
[58:46.240 --> 58:51.760]  Privacy is under attack. When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[58:51.760 --> 58:56.560]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[58:56.560 --> 59:02.720]  So protect your rights. Say no to surveillance and keep your information to yourself. Privacy,
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[59:13.920 --> 59:20.000]  Imagine four eyes staring at you through binoculars, a magnifying glass or a pair of
[59:20.000 --> 59:25.280]  x-ray goggles. That imagery reminds me that the Fourth Amendment guarantees Americans freedom from
[59:25.280 --> 59:30.960]  unreasonable search and seizure. Fourth Amendment, four eyes staring at you. Get it? Unfortunately,
[59:30.960 --> 59:35.680]  the government is trampling our Fourth Amendment rights in the name of security. Case in point,
[59:35.680 --> 59:40.480]  TSA airport scanners that peer under your clothing. When government employees demand
[59:40.480 --> 59:45.520]  a peep at your privates without probable cause, I say it's time to sound the constitutional alarm
[59:45.520 --> 59:50.000]  bells. Join me in asking our representatives to dust off the Bill of Rights and use their
[59:50.000 --> 59:55.680]  googly eyes to take a gander at the Fourth. I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. More news and information
[59:55.680 --> 59:58.720]  at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[01:00:11.440 --> 01:00:16.720]  I read his book and it says he cares not for the unsightly
[01:00:18.880 --> 01:00:22.720]  These warmongers come by that term rightly
[01:00:27.680 --> 01:00:30.960]  I won't pay for the war with my bite
[01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:34.400]  Ain't gonna pay for the car with my money
[01:00:34.400 --> 01:00:37.680]  I won't pay for the fun with my bite
[01:00:37.680 --> 01:00:41.120]  Their plans wicked and their logic shoddy
[01:00:41.120 --> 01:00:44.560]  Ain't gonna pay for the war with my bite
[01:00:44.560 --> 01:00:47.920]  I won't pay for the boys with my money
[01:00:47.920 --> 01:00:52.080]  Ain't gonna pay for the kids with my bite
[01:00:52.080 --> 01:00:55.440]  Their whole agenda smells funny
[01:00:55.440 --> 01:01:00.000]  I wanna fight in a war of my own
[01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:07.120]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton. We're at Fountain. Rue de la Radio on this Friday,
[01:01:07.120 --> 01:01:14.400]  the fourth day of April 2025. And we have our special guest, Pastor Massad and Nick
[01:01:14.960 --> 01:01:20.960]  Galogeley. Did I do that right? Oh, it's a bit of an ah.
[01:01:20.960 --> 01:01:25.440]  No, you did it right. You did it really well. I think you probably catch his breath.
[01:01:25.440 --> 01:01:29.360]  That was about as close as everyone could get to it.
[01:01:30.560 --> 01:01:32.640]  Are you saying Galogeley or Galogeley?
[01:01:32.640 --> 01:01:38.000]  No, you, no, no. Galogeley, you had it. Yeah, I tell people it used to be Nick Galogeley,
[01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:43.040]  but we dropped the Nick. Okay, so I can also say Worcester.
[01:01:44.080 --> 01:01:51.680]  I'm so proud of you, Randy. It took the pastor two months to teach me that.
[01:01:51.680 --> 01:01:55.600]  It did. And you had to be there the whole time. It ain't Worcester, sir.
[01:01:56.480 --> 01:01:57.760]  Okay. That's correct.
[01:01:58.720 --> 01:02:03.920]  Randy, can I jump us in a little different direction here?
[01:02:03.920 --> 01:02:14.960]  Yes. I think we've talked the tariffs to death, at least for now. But that is one aspect of
[01:02:16.560 --> 01:02:22.480]  the shock and awe that Donald Trump is creating in the nation and actually even in the world.
[01:02:23.280 --> 01:02:31.760]  And I don't believe the Democrats ever expected him to win, first of all. Second of all,
[01:02:33.280 --> 01:02:38.080]  they absolutely had no understanding at all of what he was going to do so quickly
[01:02:38.080 --> 01:02:43.040]  with all the incredible changes that he's making.
[01:02:43.440 --> 01:02:50.080]  Pastor, you're fading in and out.
[01:02:50.080 --> 01:02:56.320]  There's two parts to this. I want to go into a question. Am I back now? Am I good? Can you
[01:02:56.320 --> 01:03:03.520]  hear me? Yes, you're back. Good. Can you hear me? Yes, you're good. Can anybody hear me?
[01:03:03.920 --> 01:03:11.440]  Can you hear me? All right. There's a young man.
[01:03:14.080 --> 01:03:20.480]  Actually, there was a question that came up. There was some Sanskrit writings. I don't know
[01:03:20.480 --> 01:03:26.400]  if it's properly called Sanskrit. I'm not much of an archaeology fan. But it was some writings
[01:03:26.400 --> 01:03:39.440]  that no one could understand. Are you guys with me? Yes. Yes, no? Yes, I'm with you.
[01:03:40.080 --> 01:03:49.440]  Okay, so there were some writings that nobody could really understand. And after lots and lots
[01:03:49.440 --> 01:03:58.720]  of time of these leading archaeologists trying to decipher this writing, they put it out
[01:03:58.720 --> 01:04:05.040]  in the public domain in hopes that somebody could find it, understand it. And for years,
[01:04:05.040 --> 01:04:14.640]  and I want to say decades, no one has been able to understand it. And recently,
[01:04:15.600 --> 01:04:23.120]  someone actually broke the code and has been able to, and because of that, they've all been
[01:04:23.120 --> 01:04:29.920]  able to begin to decipher all these, this language and all these manuscripts and things.
[01:04:31.040 --> 01:04:37.200]  Are you speaking to the writings of the temples in such in South America?
[01:04:38.960 --> 01:04:44.160]  I'm not sure where they were actually. They tried to understand it for years and years and years.
[01:04:44.160 --> 01:04:48.800]  And then the 15 year old son of an archaeologist figured it out.
[01:04:49.920 --> 01:04:53.120]  No, this is something different. This is something much more complex that they've
[01:04:53.120 --> 01:05:00.480]  been looking at for the longest time. And they haven't been able to to break it until very
[01:05:00.480 --> 01:05:10.640]  recently. And it was broken by a 19 year old American kid. Now what's unique about this 19
[01:05:10.640 --> 01:05:19.360]  year old kid having broken this code is his name. His name is Big Balls.
[01:05:21.920 --> 01:05:28.720]  Oh, why is that significant? He's with Musk. Because Big Ball is the one who's working with
[01:05:28.720 --> 01:05:34.800]  Elon Musk. Literally one of the smartest young men on the planet. And he's working with Elon
[01:05:34.800 --> 01:05:40.960]  Musk. And their goal has been to go in there and unearth all the fraud, all the waste,
[01:05:40.960 --> 01:05:49.200]  all the criminality going on. They're the ones who found out the USAID is running an amazing scam
[01:05:49.200 --> 01:05:57.360]  where they're sending out money and creating all kinds of fake NGOs, non-governmental organizations
[01:05:58.080 --> 01:06:02.960]  that's then sending billions and billions and hundreds of billions of dollars
[01:06:03.680 --> 01:06:09.440]  back to the United States through all these other NGOs landing in the direction of George Soros and
[01:06:09.440 --> 01:06:16.160]  others who are paying people enormous sums of money to go and disrupt and disturb and riot and
[01:06:16.160 --> 01:06:21.040]  all these things. And they've got all of this there. And all the Democrats have been able to do
[01:06:21.040 --> 01:06:28.720]  is to look in shock that their scam, for lack of a better term, has been uncovered.
[01:06:28.720 --> 01:06:35.520]  And they have no idea what to do. And in all of the turmoil that this has caused in their ranks,
[01:06:35.520 --> 01:06:39.680]  they're completely unable to respond to what Donald Trump is doing.
[01:06:41.040 --> 01:06:48.720]  Now, because they have been unable to respond and effectively get anywhere, they have now been
[01:06:49.360 --> 01:06:58.320]  taking Marxist activist judges and trying to sabotage legally what the president is doing.
[01:06:59.680 --> 01:07:06.560]  Some federal judge will make a ruling that says, I'm sorry, I want that plane full of
[01:07:08.480 --> 01:07:14.000]  deportees returned back to the United States. And I'll tell you when and if they can leave.
[01:07:14.720 --> 01:07:18.960]  And they said, and the president's people said, well, gee, judge, we're sorry, but it's kind of
[01:07:18.960 --> 01:07:24.480]  out of US airspace now and we really can't control it. And they're kind of tap dancing the judge.
[01:07:25.120 --> 01:07:31.040]  And Randy, this is where I wanna get your opinions here today because constitutionally,
[01:07:31.680 --> 01:07:38.320]  these judges do not have the authority to do what they're doing. And what's happening is
[01:07:38.320 --> 01:07:45.120]  we have three separate but equal branches of our government.
[01:07:46.080 --> 01:07:53.760]  And the judiciary is trying to emerge as the superior branch that all other branches must
[01:07:53.760 --> 01:07:59.280]  bow to. And that will not lead us to anything, any type of a nation that we want to have.
[01:07:59.280 --> 01:08:04.000]  So I wanna just look at one particular judge for a second. He's been all over the news,
[01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:10.320]  Judge James Boasberg. And he's the one who ordered the plane to come back, who is trying to
[01:08:11.840 --> 01:08:15.840]  issue various orders restricting what Donald Trump will do.
[01:08:15.840 --> 01:08:20.080]  Now, the way I'm looking at it is Donald Trump is the duly elected president of the United States.
[01:08:20.080 --> 01:08:24.320]  And these areas of foreign policy, these areas of national security,
[01:08:24.320 --> 01:08:29.760]  this judge has no authority over period. And for him to assert himself into that
[01:08:30.320 --> 01:08:35.360]  is something akin to treason. I don't know what the proper legal term would be,
[01:08:35.360 --> 01:08:40.240]  but it's something akin to treason. He is attempting to reach into another branch,
[01:08:40.240 --> 01:08:45.440]  take power and take authority that he does not have, usurp that power and authority and
[01:08:45.440 --> 01:08:51.280]  enforce his unelected opinion as well as gospel into.
[01:08:51.280 --> 01:08:57.120]  And so- Can I ask him a question before Randy answers?
[01:08:57.120 --> 01:09:05.440]  Go ahead. Was Kilmar Garcia on the flight that the judge told the jury instructed?
[01:09:05.440 --> 01:09:09.600]  Is that the one person whose wife is running around saying he really is a good person?
[01:09:09.680 --> 01:09:18.960]  Is that the one person who ICE admitted was an administrative error?
[01:09:20.160 --> 01:09:25.200]  Okay, then- Donald Trump, that ICE says they can't bring back.
[01:09:25.200 --> 01:09:32.960]  He's in the highest maximum security prison in El Salvador made for gang members.
[01:09:32.960 --> 01:09:37.280]  Actually, I haven't heard what you just said. I have not heard that he was an administrative
[01:09:37.280 --> 01:09:44.800]  mistake. What I have heard from Pam Monte is that he is in fact a member of Trende Aragua,
[01:09:44.800 --> 01:09:49.120]  and he is actually a bad guy. That's what I've heard. I'm not arguing one case.
[01:09:49.120 --> 01:09:52.160]  I'll read it to you. I refuse to talk about one person.
[01:09:54.640 --> 01:09:59.440]  We have 20 million people who invaded the country. And if a person or two gets caught up,
[01:09:59.440 --> 01:10:02.400]  I'm sorry about that. I really am, but I don't care because we have 20 million
[01:10:02.400 --> 01:10:06.720]  bad people who have to leave the country. Yeah, but if you wanted to do things correctly,
[01:10:06.720 --> 01:10:13.920]  you would bring the person back who you incorrectly deported into a gang prison.
[01:10:13.920 --> 01:10:17.120]  If that's possible, then I hope they can do it. If it's not possible, I'm sorry.
[01:10:17.120 --> 01:10:19.920]  They say it's not possible, but it is a phone call.
[01:10:19.920 --> 01:10:22.400]  Hold on. That's a red herring.
[01:10:23.120 --> 01:10:30.480]  Exactly. Mistakes happen to condemn the whole system because of a mistake.
[01:10:31.440 --> 01:10:34.160]  No, but you should be willing to correct the mistake.
[01:10:34.800 --> 01:10:42.960]  So what? What's that got to do with this judge ordering Trump to do something the judge doesn't
[01:10:42.960 --> 01:10:48.160]  have the power to order him to do? And I want to stay with that. And I'm not going to talk
[01:10:48.160 --> 01:10:53.120]  about one individual case because I want to make a point here and I want to see what you guys
[01:10:53.120 --> 01:11:00.480]  think is the correct answer to this. And so then there's a couple of avenues to take it.
[01:11:00.480 --> 01:11:06.800]  First of all, without question, that judge has overstepped his bounds and I can tend to be
[01:11:07.840 --> 01:11:13.280]  very dogmatic and very hard-nosed. And I'm looking at it a little differently,
[01:11:13.280 --> 01:11:15.200]  and I'm going to get into probably a better way to look at it.
[01:11:15.200 --> 01:11:17.280]  But I want to start with my outrageous thoughts first.
[01:11:19.520 --> 01:11:27.040]  I want to hear your outrageous thoughts. The president has access to various police agencies,
[01:11:27.040 --> 01:11:32.960]  whichever one or ones are appropriate for him, whether it's US Marshals or FBI, whoever it is.
[01:11:33.520 --> 01:11:36.560]  He has quote unquote control over those. Those are the ones that he can direct.
[01:11:37.440 --> 01:11:38.960]  Hold on, hold on. I believe what he should do.
[01:11:38.960 --> 01:11:40.960]  The president shouldn't have access to FBI.
[01:11:40.960 --> 01:11:48.400]  He has every branch of government has access to some police authority. Congress has the Capitol
[01:11:48.400 --> 01:11:55.520]  Police, et cetera, et cetera. Okay, and so the president has the access to whatever,
[01:11:55.520 --> 01:11:58.640]  US Marshals, FBI. I don't know who it is, but I know he has access.
[01:11:59.440 --> 01:12:08.720]  US Marshals, ATF, FBI, all answer directly to the president of the United States through the
[01:12:08.720 --> 01:12:14.000]  Attorney General. And Bill Clinton called the ATF on to Waco, Texas.
[01:12:14.000 --> 01:12:18.320]  Yeah. Please hold on a second. I'm going back to this. I don't care about all this other stuff.
[01:12:18.400 --> 01:12:24.400]  I'm trying to make a point. He has authority, and he has authority with power behind it.
[01:12:25.520 --> 01:12:31.120]  And I believe that the president should send in one of his agencies, whichever one he chooses,
[01:12:31.120 --> 01:12:36.480]  to go and arrest that judge and put him in jail. That's what I honestly believe.
[01:12:36.480 --> 01:12:40.800]  And people will say, that would cause a constitutional crisis. Bulldoinkies, it would
[01:12:40.800 --> 01:12:46.800]  not. That would highlight that this judge had no authority. He's acting as an activist Marxist,
[01:12:47.200 --> 01:12:51.840]  who is now, because they failed in every attempt to stop him legally.
[01:12:51.840 --> 01:12:55.840]  Now they're gonna try to do something that quasi looks legal. But the reality is,
[01:12:55.840 --> 01:12:59.840]  he has no authority to do. And that's what should happen to that judge. Randy, go ahead,
[01:12:59.840 --> 01:13:01.600]  cuz I know what Nick's gonna probably try to say.
[01:13:01.600 --> 01:13:09.040]  I was pleased with Trump, in that this judge told him to do something. And Trump,
[01:13:09.040 --> 01:13:14.480]  I'm sure he sat back and he said, okay, what's gonna happen if I don't do it?
[01:13:15.040 --> 01:13:16.640]  What can the judge do about it?
[01:13:16.640 --> 01:13:17.360]  Nothing.
[01:13:18.080 --> 01:13:23.760]  So he said, screw you, take your best shot. If you have grounds and if you have the authority
[01:13:23.760 --> 01:13:27.360]  to do something, take this through the courts and adjudicate it.
[01:13:27.360 --> 01:13:32.000]  I'm sorry, but that wasn't not the position of the Trump administration. The position of
[01:13:32.000 --> 01:13:36.320]  the Trump administration was that they had sent out the flights prior to the day.
[01:13:37.280 --> 01:13:39.280]  Look, I was in the military, that's horse manure.
[01:13:39.280 --> 01:13:41.200]  That was Marco Rubio's response.
[01:13:41.200 --> 01:13:46.720]  That was horse manure. Trump said, I don't care, tell him a story.
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[01:18:30.320 --> 01:18:35.040]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain. We live on our radio and here with our special
[01:18:35.040 --> 01:18:57.040]  guest Pastor Massad and Dick Galloghly. We were talking about the power of the two branches of
[01:18:57.040 --> 01:19:02.800]  government. The power of the president versus the power of the judiciary. This is not about
[01:19:03.440 --> 01:19:11.040]  some judge and some politician. This is about the power of the president as opposed to
[01:19:11.040 --> 01:19:19.440]  the power of the executive as opposed to the power of the judiciary. And I'm agreeing with you,
[01:19:19.440 --> 01:19:26.560]  Pastor Massad. And this was the fear of our founders when they put this country together,
[01:19:26.560 --> 01:19:34.080]  especially James Madison, was horribly afraid of the judiciary overstepping their bounds.
[01:19:35.920 --> 01:19:43.440]  And when all this went down, that's what I saw, is a test between the two. And you mentioned treason.
[01:19:44.800 --> 01:19:55.760]  Maybe sedition. Treason requires armed insurrection. Sedition
[01:19:55.760 --> 01:20:06.960]  is more subtle. And this judge is trying to claim what the president says is more power than he has.
[01:20:09.200 --> 01:20:12.320]  It does not just take the president to say it. And before I go into this,
[01:20:12.880 --> 01:20:15.760]  because I'm going to bring the third branch of government in in a minute.
[01:20:15.760 --> 01:20:21.040]  But before I do that, I just want to note that anyone who's paying attention to our last segment
[01:20:21.600 --> 01:20:27.120]  realizes that it's such a blessing that we didn't waste the whole night just talking about tariffs
[01:20:27.120 --> 01:20:31.520]  because it's getting a little more lively. So I want to look at this for a second,
[01:20:31.520 --> 01:20:35.920]  because I really do think that the president should act and arrest the judge.
[01:20:35.920 --> 01:20:41.920]  That said, I can understand that that might not be the wisest thing,
[01:20:42.640 --> 01:20:48.000]  because that would get everybody all fired up. And it might be more extreme of an example than
[01:20:48.000 --> 01:20:53.360]  you really need to do. I personally think it's the way to go. But let's go to a more moderate,
[01:20:53.360 --> 01:20:59.440]  but still just as powerful direction. This is all found in Article 3 of the Constitution.
[01:20:59.440 --> 01:21:04.960]  And judicial tyranny is a problem, one that was recognized at the founding of our country,
[01:21:04.960 --> 01:21:12.560]  as you just said. And so what Article 3, Section 1 says is the judicial power of the United States
[01:21:12.560 --> 01:21:20.000]  shall be vested in one Supreme Court and in such inferior courts as Congress may from time to time
[01:21:20.000 --> 01:21:26.320]  ordain and establish. So let's look at this for a minute. The Constitution establishes one court,
[01:21:26.320 --> 01:21:33.520]  Supreme. It does not establish any other court. And so all the inferior courts,
[01:21:34.480 --> 01:21:41.120]  the inferior federal judges, the meddling James Boasberg inferior federal judge,
[01:21:42.320 --> 01:21:48.080]  are all there because Congress has decided to create a position for them.
[01:21:48.080 --> 01:21:52.800]  And Congress has the authority to strip the jurisdiction of all the federal courts
[01:21:53.440 --> 01:21:59.600]  to decide these cases, period. And so when you look at judges, federal judges,
[01:21:59.600 --> 01:22:04.400]  who are now sabotaging the president's agenda, forget that it's Donald Trump,
[01:22:05.040 --> 01:22:12.640]  a president. You got federal judges sabotaging president's authority and agenda.
[01:22:12.640 --> 01:22:19.120]  They were not elected by the people. And the fact that they have authority in one
[01:22:19.120 --> 01:22:25.440]  federal jurisdiction and only over a case that is brought to it does not give them
[01:22:25.520 --> 01:22:30.240]  authority in any other jurisdiction, any other federal district in the country. It's clear.
[01:22:30.240 --> 01:22:35.200]  It's so clear. It's stunning to me that Nolan is actually really promoting what I'm saying
[01:22:35.200 --> 01:22:41.440]  because it's just so clear in the Constitution. The fact of judicial inferiority is absolutely
[01:22:41.440 --> 01:22:47.520]  clear in the Constitution. And the Constitution makes it very clear that Congress has the
[01:22:47.520 --> 01:22:52.240]  ultimate power over the Supreme Court because there's a clause that says that the Congress
[01:22:52.880 --> 01:23:01.120]  has the authority to tell the Supreme Court, stop hearing that case, you may not enter a decision.
[01:23:01.120 --> 01:23:06.080]  A lot of people don't realize that's in the Constitution, but it is. And it is not something
[01:23:06.080 --> 01:23:12.400]  that is almost never done. It happens periodically. And it's not necessarily always successful that
[01:23:12.400 --> 01:23:20.320]  the Congress unites to stop it, but the actions to stop the bills to stop the Supreme Court from
[01:23:20.320 --> 01:23:26.640]  hearing a case go forward somewhat regularly. It happens more often than people realize.
[01:23:26.640 --> 01:23:30.400]  But Congress has the absolute authority to look at the Supreme Court and say, stop,
[01:23:30.400 --> 01:23:35.200]  you can't make a ruling on this case. We don't wanna hear it. And the Supreme Court has answered
[01:23:35.200 --> 01:23:39.600]  on more than one occasion and said, though we believe our decision could be important,
[01:23:39.600 --> 01:23:44.400]  Congress, according to the Constitution, has the authority to tell us we may not answer,
[01:23:44.400 --> 01:23:48.560]  and therefore we are dropping this case and we render no decision. That's happened more than,
[01:23:49.360 --> 01:23:54.000]  quite a few times. I'm gonna say more than once, a lot of times in our history and our recent history.
[01:23:54.000 --> 01:23:59.440]  But Congress has the authority to ordain and establish all these inferior courts. And if
[01:23:59.440 --> 01:24:04.960]  they have the authority to establish them, then, Randy, that means they have the authority to
[01:24:04.960 --> 01:24:13.040]  abolish them. Exactly, and they have the authority to limit their powers and ability and authority in
[01:24:13.680 --> 01:24:22.000]  operation. I listened to a judicial scholar and he was saying, in order for a federal judge to have
[01:24:22.000 --> 01:24:28.080]  any jurisdiction, there must be a controversy. There must be a plaintiff and there must be a
[01:24:28.080 --> 01:24:34.320]  defendant. And he was saying, in this case, there's not. And that's been established by
[01:24:34.320 --> 01:24:40.880]  the Supreme Court as the minimal indicia for any case to be heard in any jurisdiction in
[01:24:40.880 --> 01:24:47.440]  the United States. You have to have the irreducible minimum indicia in order for
[01:24:47.440 --> 01:24:53.040]  a case to be justiciable in the United States. Someone came to this judge and asked for an
[01:24:53.040 --> 01:24:59.440]  injunction. A criminal case, you're talking about a criminal case. No, any case. Not any case.
[01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:04.800]  There's no difference. As far as the authority of the court is concerned,
[01:25:04.800 --> 01:25:09.280]  there's no difference between civil and criminal. Criminal is a subset of civil.
[01:25:09.280 --> 01:25:14.480]  Correct. Well, listen, hold on. Let me go a step further, because history plays into this here,
[01:25:14.480 --> 01:25:18.640]  too. And it's very important to understand it, because what has the president done?
[01:25:18.640 --> 01:25:25.360]  He's invoked this 1798 Aliens and Enemies Act. And under that, he clearly has the authority to do it.
[01:25:25.360 --> 01:25:30.720]  But where did all this stuff come from? Go back to Thomas Jefferson, because in the election of
[01:25:31.280 --> 01:25:38.400]  1800, he was the populist candidate at the time. And the ruling people at the time,
[01:25:38.400 --> 01:25:40.800]  the deep state, if you will, at the time was the federalists.
[01:25:41.760 --> 01:25:49.280]  And they were so alarmed when he became president that they decided to write the Aliens and Enemies
[01:25:49.280 --> 01:26:00.320]  Act. And what that did is they created that because they viewed the judiciary as the only
[01:26:00.320 --> 01:26:05.360]  ones that could stop Thomas Jefferson and his populist people and his populist movement.
[01:26:05.360 --> 01:26:08.160]  They viewed that that was the only thing that could possibly do it,
[01:26:08.160 --> 01:26:13.520]  because Jefferson also wanted to shrink the size and scope of the federal government at that time.
[01:26:13.520 --> 01:26:17.920]  So what Jefferson wrote is, if we can but prevent the government from wasting the
[01:26:17.920 --> 01:26:22.960]  labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them, then they'll all have to become
[01:26:22.960 --> 01:26:28.320]  happy. You see, at that time, the government was wasting people's money, just like it is today.
[01:26:29.120 --> 01:26:33.920]  And so with that in mind, the Republicans in Congress, who aren't the same Republicans as
[01:26:33.920 --> 01:26:39.600]  they are today, they took aim at the federalist-dominated judiciary, and they actually used
[01:26:39.600 --> 01:26:48.720]  the Judiciary Act of 1802 right after the Aliens and Enemies Act of 1798, four years later.
[01:26:48.720 --> 01:26:56.720]  They did the Judicial Act of 1802, and they eliminated 16 federal judgeships.
[01:26:56.720 --> 01:26:58.720]  Okay, hang on. We'll be right back.
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[01:30:43.920 --> 01:31:12.560]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio,
[01:31:12.560 --> 01:31:19.120]  and we're here with our special guest, Pastor Mastered, and I'll get it right, Nick Goggally.
[01:31:23.120 --> 01:31:30.080]  Glo-gally. I need to put a big O in there. I'm gonna make that capital. Glo-gally. Okay,
[01:31:30.080 --> 01:31:35.840]  got it. And Pastor, you were finishing up. I just want, thank you. I just wanna go back to this
[01:31:35.840 --> 01:31:42.480]  because historically, I wanna look at Thomas Jefferson for just another minute here.
[01:31:42.720 --> 01:31:48.720]  Because all of these, today we see a, there's a big lesson we can learn from the Jeffersonian
[01:31:48.720 --> 01:31:57.280]  era. And basically, what we see is the emerging dictatorship, wannabe dictators of the district
[01:31:57.280 --> 01:32:04.800]  court behaving and acting like their president should really be something that alarms every
[01:32:04.800 --> 01:32:11.840]  single American. And what we need to do is just read the Judiciary Act of 1802. Because
[01:32:11.840 --> 01:32:16.480]  Thomas Jefferson and his party completely revised the court system.
[01:32:16.480 --> 01:32:20.720]  They abolished the whole series of federalist judges that they deemed were illegitimate.
[01:32:21.280 --> 01:32:27.520]  And he signed it. Jefferson signed it. And he eliminated and restructured several federal
[01:32:27.520 --> 01:32:32.560]  courts over partisanship concerns. And you know what? Those judges lost their seats,
[01:32:32.560 --> 01:32:38.080]  and the republic did not collapse. American people elected Donald Trump to be president.
[01:32:39.040 --> 01:32:42.160]  Not just to cut costs, but to restore a constitutional republic.
[01:32:43.520 --> 01:32:47.520]  That's what we need to do. That's what's going on. And I think Article 3 and an understanding
[01:32:47.520 --> 01:32:52.160]  of that will help to put these judges out of business because they're out of control.
[01:32:53.200 --> 01:32:54.560]  That's all I have to say about that.
[01:32:54.560 --> 01:33:02.640]  I just had a conversation with someone today who is relatively high up in the Republican
[01:33:02.640 --> 01:33:10.320]  Party here in Texas. He knows all of the Supreme Court judges and Texas Court of Criminal Appeals
[01:33:10.320 --> 01:33:22.240]  judges. And he is saying that they're using him to take some action that will strip the
[01:33:23.520 --> 01:33:29.920]  judiciary of a lot of its power. Because these are the highest judges in Texas saying that
[01:33:29.920 --> 01:33:32.800]  the lower courts are absolutely out of control.
[01:33:32.800 --> 01:33:34.960]  That's correct.
[01:33:34.960 --> 01:33:40.160]  They're taking action to get them back in control. And they can't do it themselves
[01:33:40.160 --> 01:33:48.480]  because they're judges. There's only one person that can do it. That's a citizen in a republic.
[01:33:50.080 --> 01:33:58.720]  And that's something that I'm working on is reestablishing the focus on citizens in a republic,
[01:33:59.360 --> 01:34:06.880]  a republic as opposed to a democracy. Nick, what's the difference? Functionally,
[01:34:07.440 --> 01:34:12.080]  what is the difference in this country between a democracy and a republic?
[01:34:15.600 --> 01:34:22.480]  I'm sorry. Give me one second. My AirPods died. And I'm going to get reconnected here.
[01:34:22.480 --> 01:34:25.520]  Okay. And while you're doing that, I'll admit that was a trick question.
[01:34:25.520 --> 01:34:37.040]  I've been working on this for 40 years now. And I can only find one difference between the United
[01:34:37.040 --> 01:34:44.880]  States and each of the several states, difference between them as a democracy and them as a republic.
[01:34:46.320 --> 01:34:53.360]  And that is the power of a citizen to go unimpeded to a grand jury.
[01:34:55.840 --> 01:35:01.760]  The only difference between a democracy and a republic is the ability of the singular citizen
[01:35:03.680 --> 01:35:11.840]  to take his system to task and control the governmental instruments that he has created.
[01:35:11.840 --> 01:35:18.640]  And the only way we can do that in our current structure is by going to a grand jury of our
[01:35:18.640 --> 01:35:26.320]  peers, which is in each of the states that have them, and definitely in the Fed, a fourth branch
[01:35:26.320 --> 01:35:34.400]  of government. While according to Scalia in Williams v. State, State v. Williams,
[01:35:35.920 --> 01:35:41.840]  while the district court impanels a grand jury, once the grand jury is impaneled,
[01:35:41.840 --> 01:35:47.520]  the district court has no more say over the actions of the grand jury. And grand juries
[01:35:48.480 --> 01:35:51.440]  federal grand juries can examine into anything they want to.
[01:35:52.240 --> 01:35:59.360]  There is no control over them. And I'm in the process of filing criminal charges against
[01:35:59.360 --> 01:36:05.360]  federal judges. And I'm saying that when I file a criminal complaint against a federal judge
[01:36:06.560 --> 01:36:15.600]  directed to a grand jury, no branch of government has any jurisdiction over a criminal
[01:36:15.600 --> 01:36:26.880]  complaint alleging a felony other than a grand jury. The FBI, the ATTF, none of those,
[01:36:27.520 --> 01:36:34.080]  they don't have any jurisdiction at all until there is an indictment by a federal grand jury.
[01:36:35.520 --> 01:36:42.080]  They can investigate, but they can't arrest someone. They can't take jurisdiction until
[01:36:42.080 --> 01:36:51.120]  a grand jury has found an indictment. Only a grand jury can find an indictment. And only
[01:36:51.120 --> 01:36:58.160]  an indictment can invest the government with the power to prosecute a criminal accusation.
[01:36:59.520 --> 01:37:07.920]  Once a grand jury has found a true bill, then the judiciary gets jurisdiction to prosecute.
[01:37:07.920 --> 01:37:13.440]  The prosecutor gets jurisdiction to act as a lawyer for the United States. But until
[01:37:14.000 --> 01:37:24.720]  there is an indictment, nobody has jurisdiction. We have prosecutors asking people accused of crime
[01:37:24.720 --> 01:37:31.520]  to waive an indictment. There is no power in law for them to do that.
[01:37:32.480 --> 01:37:39.200]  If we can get that grand jury back, we can step back into the place we're supposed to be
[01:37:39.200 --> 01:37:48.320]  as a republic. And the next set of complaints I'm sending are against federal judges.
[01:37:48.320 --> 01:37:53.520]  And I'm sending them to the attorney general and directing the attorney general to give them to
[01:37:53.520 --> 01:38:00.080]  the grand jury. And when she doesn't, I'll sue the president because I'm a citizen in a republic.
[01:38:00.880 --> 01:38:06.720]  Pam Bondi, the attorney general, doesn't answer to me. She answers to the president.
[01:38:07.840 --> 01:38:15.920]  President answers to me. And part of my purpose doing this show is to get everybody to realize
[01:38:16.880 --> 01:38:24.160]  this is a republic. And you as a citizen, everybody answers to you.
[01:38:24.160 --> 01:38:32.560]  But they only answer to you if you stand up. I'm preaching here, Pastor.
[01:38:32.560 --> 01:38:37.200]  Yeah, if you don't know, you're actually correct. If you don't know who you are,
[01:38:38.240 --> 01:38:43.200]  you can't get anywhere. The Supreme Court has even said only the belligerent have rights in court.
[01:38:43.200 --> 01:38:47.680]  You have to know who you are. It's also been said any right that you're not willing to defend,
[01:38:47.680 --> 01:38:53.040]  you don't have. That was a ruling that started primarily with Barker Wingo.
[01:38:53.520 --> 01:38:59.440]  Barker Wingo was a First Amendment case. And in Barker Wingo, they said that in order for you
[01:38:59.440 --> 01:39:07.200]  to be able to enjoy your right to a speedy trial, you must timely demand it and you must show harm.
[01:39:08.640 --> 01:39:13.840]  And I'm saying, where in the heck do you come up with that nonsense? That is judicial activism.
[01:39:15.520 --> 01:39:21.760]  That is nonsense. Before I would allow my public official to take office,
[01:39:21.840 --> 01:39:27.200]  I demanded that he swear on his oath that he would do certain things.
[01:39:28.400 --> 01:39:34.880]  And then the judiciary come along and said, you don't have to do those things unless the individual
[01:39:35.520 --> 01:39:41.280]  commands you to do it. Now, they've entered into a contract with the state. I'm not a party to that
[01:39:41.280 --> 01:39:48.880]  contract, but I am the intended third party beneficiary. And they're saying that the parties
[01:39:48.880 --> 01:39:56.160]  to the contract does not have to abide by the contract unless a third party beneficiary demands
[01:39:56.160 --> 01:40:02.160]  that they do. That's not what their oath said. That's not what my oath said. I swore on my oath
[01:40:02.160 --> 01:40:06.400]  that I'd protect this country from all enemies foreign and domestic. And I didn't say I would
[01:40:06.400 --> 01:40:13.040]  do that only if a citizen ordered me to. I said I would do that. They said they would
[01:40:14.000 --> 01:40:19.360]  protect the Constitution and uphold the laws. They didn't say they'd only do that if a citizen
[01:40:19.360 --> 01:40:31.600]  commanded them to. That opened the door to give these agencies the ability to just ignore the law
[01:40:31.600 --> 01:40:41.120]  at their pleasure. They extended it from Speedy Trial, Texas in 72. Barker Wingo was 1970.
[01:40:41.760 --> 01:40:47.120]  They said that you don't have a right to examining trial unless you demand one.
[01:40:48.560 --> 01:40:53.680]  They took that from Barker Wingo. And when they took examining trials out of the system,
[01:40:53.680 --> 01:40:58.640]  they destabilized the whole thing. Andy Kelton, Brett Fountain, we'll be right back.
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[01:43:24.480 --> 01:43:47.120]  As we saw, so shall we be. So many crucial words get put on all that we see. Try as we
[01:43:47.120 --> 01:44:16.640]  will. Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio and here with our
[01:44:16.640 --> 01:44:22.480]  special guest, Pastor Massad and Nick Gologley. Did I do that right?
[01:44:24.720 --> 01:44:30.640]  You've gotten it at this point. Randy, I knew we could train you. It was just a matter of time.
[01:44:30.640 --> 01:44:37.840]  Well, and Pastor Massad, we also have Dr. Joe on the board. Just for his-
[01:44:38.640 --> 01:44:42.240]  On the quiet mic. Yeah, if we need a little sarcasm,
[01:44:42.240 --> 01:44:48.640]  consciousness. Is Dr. Joe with us now? Yes, he is.
[01:44:48.640 --> 01:44:55.280]  Randy, everyone gets in life just about what they deserve. As for me, I'm just here to make sure.
[01:44:57.120 --> 01:45:02.720]  You know, Dr. Joe, it is so good to hear your voice. I have to go back to a little story
[01:45:03.280 --> 01:45:10.640]  from upstate New York when you gentlemen were up here and you guys and Nick went to dinner one
[01:45:10.640 --> 01:45:16.640]  night at Applebee's or Ruby Tuesday's, whatever it was. And I didn't know much about that until
[01:45:16.640 --> 01:45:21.120]  the following week when I went to the same restaurant with Nicholas.
[01:45:21.120 --> 01:45:25.600]  And when we sat down, apparently we had the same waitress that you guys had
[01:45:25.600 --> 01:45:29.840]  who came up to the table, looked at Nick and said, is he as bad as the other two?
[01:45:29.840 --> 01:45:36.160]  True story.
[01:45:41.360 --> 01:45:45.360]  That was when you were talking about your suicide hotline?
[01:45:47.440 --> 01:45:49.280]  You think Dr. Joe was talking about that?
[01:45:50.720 --> 01:45:54.560]  I think that's when Dr. Joe was using his best espanol.
[01:45:55.440 --> 01:46:01.520]  Well, the suicide hotline is very important. Randy, why don't you tell people about it?
[01:46:03.200 --> 01:46:08.160]  It's yours. We were in a restaurant in, what was that town?
[01:46:09.360 --> 01:46:09.920]  Herkimer.
[01:46:10.720 --> 01:46:11.200]  Herkimer.
[01:46:15.440 --> 01:46:18.480]  Pastor Madison said he wanted to put together a suicide hotline.
[01:46:19.840 --> 01:46:23.120]  And he's going to call it, going to call it, why wait?
[01:46:24.720 --> 01:46:30.080]  And it got two, two boosts down, almost fell out in the floor laughing. The whole place erupted.
[01:46:35.040 --> 01:46:37.840]  Okay, we don't think that.
[01:46:37.840 --> 01:46:45.040]  I am turning on the phone lines. After this next segment, we will start taking your calls.
[01:46:45.040 --> 01:46:53.040]  It'd be nice if we had some calls on point. So if you have a question or comment for our guests,
[01:46:53.040 --> 01:46:58.320]  give us a call, 512-646-1984. Okay.
[01:46:58.320 --> 01:47:01.680]  Also, if you want to try to pronounce Galoagly.
[01:47:02.960 --> 01:47:03.760]  Galoagly.
[01:47:03.760 --> 01:47:04.320]  Give a call.
[01:47:05.280 --> 01:47:06.400]  I thought it was Galoagly.
[01:47:08.960 --> 01:47:11.200]  I can't give them the answer before they call in.
[01:47:12.000 --> 01:47:21.600]  Okay. So anyway, so give us a call. We were, pastor, you were looking at the difference
[01:47:23.280 --> 01:47:30.400]  the authority, the actual authority of the federal courts as opposed to their claimed authority.
[01:47:31.760 --> 01:47:35.600]  And it looks like Trump was testing their authority.
[01:47:38.640 --> 01:47:41.600]  Because they ordered him to do something he didn't think they had the power to
[01:47:41.600 --> 01:47:43.680]  order him to do so he thumbed his nose at him.
[01:47:47.120 --> 01:47:49.120]  What do you think will be the result of that pastor?
[01:47:50.000 --> 01:47:56.720]  Well, I think that the result is, what the result will be was very clear by what the
[01:47:56.720 --> 01:48:01.920]  attorney general said in the following days. And she made it very clear that the judge does
[01:48:01.920 --> 01:48:06.160]  not have the authority to do this. And the media jumps all over and says, well,
[01:48:06.160 --> 01:48:09.760]  clearly he's the judge, he has the authority. And they simply needed to be schooled and
[01:48:09.760 --> 01:48:13.520]  still need to be schooled. No, judges have limits to their authority.
[01:48:13.520 --> 01:48:17.600]  And we have three equal branches, co-equal branches of government. And we're not going
[01:48:17.600 --> 01:48:23.600]  just sit back and allow a judicial tyranny to develop in the nation so that every other
[01:48:23.600 --> 01:48:29.280]  branch of government must come to believe that they have to bow down to the judiciary,
[01:48:29.280 --> 01:48:31.360]  these unelected people, absolutely not.
[01:48:33.760 --> 01:48:40.000]  If the judiciary cannot say when the presidency is acting in a
[01:48:40.720 --> 01:48:48.560]  tyrannical way, who can say when the president and the executive branch is acting in a
[01:48:48.560 --> 01:48:57.680]  tyrannical way? The answer to the question is we the people.
[01:48:59.440 --> 01:49:01.840]  That's what impeachment's for. That's correct.
[01:49:03.360 --> 01:49:05.840]  That's the legislature's job, not the judiciary's.
[01:49:05.840 --> 01:49:13.520]  House and the Senate both have to. What president has gotten actually removed from office in the
[01:49:13.520 --> 01:49:15.120]  history of the country? Nixon.
[01:49:15.120 --> 01:49:24.560]  No, he did not. Nixon resigned in lieu of impeachment, but it was coming. Wasn't it McKinley?
[01:49:24.560 --> 01:49:28.880]  There were three presidents that were impeached. I don't think anybody has ever actually gotten
[01:49:28.880 --> 01:49:32.080]  removed from office. That's because they resigned.
[01:49:33.040 --> 01:49:40.240]  No, Andrew Johnson did not resign and he was not removed. The only other president who was impeached,
[01:49:40.240 --> 01:49:51.840]  I thought, was. It was Jackson, Clinton, and Trump, and none of them were removed from office.
[01:49:51.840 --> 01:49:56.560]  Correct. They either resigned or they finished out the term.
[01:49:57.360 --> 01:50:03.120]  Nixon resigned. But he was not impeached.
[01:50:03.120 --> 01:50:08.160]  So you're using that as an example to say that impeachment is not a remedy. It is a remedy.
[01:50:08.800 --> 01:50:15.040]  It is the remedy. The judiciary doesn't have the power to remove the president.
[01:50:16.640 --> 01:50:21.200]  They don't have the power to interfere with the president's duties or authorities.
[01:50:21.200 --> 01:50:24.240]  But removing is different than checking.
[01:50:25.360 --> 01:50:32.480]  Yeah, but that is how you check. And for the record, why does Congress have that authority?
[01:50:33.200 --> 01:50:39.760]  Because Congress is to read the people assembly. So ultimately, we the people,
[01:50:39.760 --> 01:50:42.960]  through our representatives, have the power to remove the president. No one else does.
[01:50:43.600 --> 01:50:46.560]  And they have the power to remove federal judges. Nobody else does.
[01:50:46.560 --> 01:50:54.000]  Yes. Sure, but if the president makes an action that is unconstitutional,
[01:50:55.200 --> 01:51:02.960]  do the courts not have any authority to declare it as unconstitutional?
[01:51:02.960 --> 01:51:08.720]  No. No. This is understanding the Constitution. The courts will tell you,
[01:51:08.720 --> 01:51:13.280]  don't bring the Constitution into my court. The courts will tell you not to bring the
[01:51:13.280 --> 01:51:15.680]  Constitution into court? Yes, they will.
[01:51:15.680 --> 01:51:22.240]  What do the courts decide on? The law implemented by the legislature
[01:51:23.120 --> 01:51:28.240]  to implement the Constitution. So you can't bring the Constitution in.
[01:51:28.240 --> 01:51:31.520]  You must bring in the law that implements the Constitution.
[01:51:32.960 --> 01:51:40.880]  Pretty sad, huh, Nick? Or in other words, the administrative laws,
[01:51:41.440 --> 01:51:43.440]  because they are just administrative courts.
[01:51:46.000 --> 01:51:55.600]  The court has no power over the president unless someone has accused the president
[01:51:56.160 --> 01:52:02.560]  of violating a law or someone has filed a civil action against the president.
[01:52:02.560 --> 01:52:09.360]  That's the only way the courts can get any jurisdiction. In this case, someone came to
[01:52:09.360 --> 01:52:14.320]  him and said, we don't like what he's doing. We want you to issue an injunction.
[01:52:15.040 --> 01:52:21.120]  What they should have done was filed a suit against the president, accusing the president
[01:52:21.120 --> 01:52:28.720]  of violating the limits of his office, serve the president, give the president
[01:52:28.720 --> 01:52:32.720]  opportunity to respond, and then file an injunction.
[01:52:35.280 --> 01:52:38.800]  I think your remedy would be flawed constitutionally when you just outlined, Randy.
[01:52:39.200 --> 01:52:43.760]  The Constitution doesn't matter. It's based off of laws. Interpreting the Constitution by
[01:52:43.760 --> 01:52:45.680]  Congress is what you're saying. Yes.
[01:52:46.960 --> 01:52:56.720]  Okay, so let's say, for example, that I am one of many people in the military who was fired
[01:52:57.680 --> 01:53:06.160]  due to not wanting to get the COVID-19 vaccination. And the court said, no,
[01:53:06.160 --> 01:53:11.600]  Mr. President, you can't do that. The president then has the authority to ignore that order
[01:53:11.600 --> 01:53:15.840]  unless Congress removes him or makes a law saying that he can't do that.
[01:53:15.840 --> 01:53:17.440]  And that's what Joe Biden did.
[01:53:20.080 --> 01:53:26.800]  What we're talking about is the nature of remedy. If I feel that I have been improperly
[01:53:26.800 --> 01:53:34.080]  removed from the military, I have recourse. The judge has no power preemptively
[01:53:35.040 --> 01:53:39.760]  to take some action. I have to come to the court with a controversy.
[01:53:42.160 --> 01:53:52.000]  I file creates jurisdiction for the court. So if someone says I was deported into a El Salvadorian
[01:53:52.000 --> 01:53:59.040]  prison and I had no criminal record, could then the judge decide on the case? No.
[01:53:59.040 --> 01:54:01.200]  But why no? Because there's no
[01:54:01.200 --> 01:54:03.680]  controversy before the court. There's a controversy.
[01:54:03.680 --> 01:54:05.280]  He was- There is a controversy,
[01:54:05.280 --> 01:54:10.240]  but it's not before the court. In order to put the controversy before the court,
[01:54:10.240 --> 01:54:17.120]  he must file a petition with the court and give notice to the opposing party and give
[01:54:17.120 --> 01:54:21.520]  opposing party opportunity to respond to that petition.
[01:54:21.520 --> 01:54:24.560]  And the response- Hold on, hold on.
[01:54:24.640 --> 01:54:34.800]  That is what is necessary to give the judiciary jurisdiction. I'm not saying these things aren't
[01:54:34.800 --> 01:54:43.360]  wrong. I'm saying in order for the judiciary to have jurisdiction, there must be a case
[01:54:43.360 --> 01:54:48.880]  in controversy filed before the court. The court cannot on its own,
[01:54:49.440 --> 01:54:53.520]  sui sponte do what it wants to. I understand.
[01:54:53.520 --> 01:54:57.600]  There's one more qualification in all that, Randy. Well, one second. There's one more
[01:54:57.600 --> 01:55:02.720]  qualification in all that, Randy, and that's that the moving party must have standing before the
[01:55:02.720 --> 01:55:12.960]  court. They must be able to show- So let's talk as humans, not persons. Let's not say persons,
[01:55:13.040 --> 01:55:20.960]  because we all know what persons means. Let's talk as humans. If someone was deported
[01:55:20.960 --> 01:55:27.760]  as a gang member and was being held in a maximum security gang prison,
[01:55:28.640 --> 01:55:32.800]  and they have never done any of those things, is that wrong as a human?
[01:55:34.160 --> 01:55:38.320]  Yes, maybe if we think it's wrong, but that's not relevant.
[01:55:39.280 --> 01:55:40.400]  Well, it should be relevant.
[01:55:43.520 --> 01:55:47.040]  But we'll pick it up on the other side. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain. We'll be right back.
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[01:58:30.320 --> 01:58:34.640]  The Bill of Rights contains the first 10 amendments of our Constitution. They guarantee
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[02:00:10.080 --> 02:00:26.320]  Well, I received my remedy today. It came in a box just like they say. I accepted it for value
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[02:00:50.240 --> 02:00:55.120]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Wheel of Law Radio here with Pastor
[02:00:55.120 --> 02:01:01.600]  Acid and Nick Galugali. Galugali, Galugali, Nick. You can't say it wrong at this point. You got it.
[02:01:01.600 --> 02:01:06.320]  How the courts work. And the question was,
[02:01:08.080 --> 02:01:16.160]  did Trump have to listen to this judge? And the answer is no. Because in order for the court
[02:01:17.120 --> 02:01:24.560]  to get jurisdiction in any case, there has to be a controversy before the court.
[02:01:25.840 --> 02:01:31.120]  And in order for a controversy to be before the court, there must be a plaintiff,
[02:01:31.760 --> 02:01:40.480]  and there must be a defendant. All courts are civil. Criminal is a subset of civil.
[02:01:41.680 --> 02:01:48.720]  In order to initiate jurisdiction of the court, someone must file a complaint with the court.
[02:01:49.360 --> 02:01:56.960]  An original petition in a civil case is a complaint, same as with a criminal case.
[02:01:56.960 --> 02:02:05.440]  Someone must file with the court, claiming that a law was violated, that this court has
[02:02:05.440 --> 02:02:12.240]  authority to adjudicate. Would a state against state lawsuit be valid, in your view?
[02:02:13.200 --> 02:02:18.400]  Wait, would a what? A state against state lawsuit be valid?
[02:02:19.280 --> 02:02:21.600]  Yes. But where is the-
[02:02:21.600 --> 02:02:29.360]  Where is the injured party? Okay, you're mixing up the patriot stuff.
[02:02:31.120 --> 02:02:39.840]  You're mixing criminal with civil. Civil does not require an injured party.
[02:02:42.480 --> 02:02:47.920]  Yes. The plaintiff is the injured party, always.
[02:02:48.880 --> 02:02:52.320]  Okay, so if a state sues a state, what is the injured party?
[02:02:53.040 --> 02:02:56.640]  Whoever is the one who filed the suit is the injured party.
[02:03:02.400 --> 02:03:09.120]  I'm not talking something philosophical here. One date must come to the Fed and say,
[02:03:10.640 --> 02:03:15.440]  we had an agreement with this state, and this state did not abide by that agreement,
[02:03:15.520 --> 02:03:18.000]  and we were harmed thereby. Okay.
[02:03:18.560 --> 02:03:26.400]  He's the injured party. We have statutory laws in this state, and this individual violated
[02:03:26.400 --> 02:03:33.360]  one of our state laws, and when a criminal law is violated, the state is the injured party.
[02:03:33.920 --> 02:03:38.640]  The state has the power to invoke the jurisdiction of the court in criminal.
[02:03:38.720 --> 02:03:44.000]  The citizen has the power to invoke the jurisdiction of the court in civil.
[02:03:45.200 --> 02:03:52.000]  In both cases, in any case, in order for the court to have jurisdiction, some party
[02:03:52.560 --> 02:03:55.760]  must petition the court for redress of grievance.
[02:03:57.600 --> 02:04:01.680]  And that petition invests the court with jurisdiction.
[02:04:02.640 --> 02:04:06.160]  That's the only way the court can get jurisdiction.
[02:04:07.120 --> 02:04:13.840]  There must be an injured party, and there must be two parties, and there must be a case in
[02:04:13.840 --> 02:04:26.320]  controversy. If I see the legislature passes a law that's absolutely 100% unconstitutional,
[02:04:26.320 --> 02:04:34.400]  I can't do anything about it unless I am harmed by it.
[02:04:36.800 --> 02:04:43.280]  I have to be able to come to the court and say, because of this law, I was harmed.
[02:04:44.480 --> 02:04:46.960]  If the law is just out there and I haven't been harmed,
[02:04:50.400 --> 02:04:53.200]  nobody has standing to bring the issue before the court.
[02:04:54.160 --> 02:05:00.560]  In this case, Trump is taking these guys back to El Salvador. Democrats didn't like it,
[02:05:01.200 --> 02:05:07.280]  and they went to the judge and say, hey, we want you to enter an injunction to stop him
[02:05:07.280 --> 02:05:12.400]  from taking those people to El Salvador. Who is they?
[02:05:14.960 --> 02:05:19.840]  Someone in the Democratic Party filed for an injunction. I don't know what their name was.
[02:05:20.400 --> 02:05:26.320]  They filed for an injunction. What they didn't do is bring a controversy before the court.
[02:05:27.200 --> 02:05:33.600]  So like any attorney general who brings a lawsuit, I'm sorry, I shouldn't say any.
[02:05:35.280 --> 02:05:40.320]  Let's say an attorney general, let's just say Letitia James of New York, brings
[02:05:40.960 --> 02:05:48.400]  a petition before the court that says 50 New Yorkers were
[02:05:50.880 --> 02:05:58.720]  deported from New York and into El Salvador because they had tattoos or something.
[02:06:00.480 --> 02:06:02.080]  Would that be a valid petition?
[02:06:02.080 --> 02:06:11.040]  No. There has to be an injured party.
[02:06:16.800 --> 02:06:20.880]  People who were harmed are the ones that must bring the issue.
[02:06:20.880 --> 02:06:30.000]  If the attorney general came before the court and said, this party
[02:06:30.000 --> 02:06:37.840]  took citizens from our state and illegally in violation of this law,
[02:06:39.520 --> 02:06:43.360]  blackballed them from this state and took them to another place.
[02:06:43.920 --> 02:06:47.520]  All the constitutions forbid blackballing someone.
[02:06:47.520 --> 02:06:50.480]  So they would have to have their own individual lawyers?
[02:06:50.480 --> 02:06:58.560]  No, the state could say this individual violated this state law.
[02:06:59.520 --> 02:07:04.560]  That would give the attorney general standing as the lawyer for the state,
[02:07:05.760 --> 02:07:08.720]  for the state to bring a controversy before the court.
[02:07:09.440 --> 02:07:12.400]  If they did that, then they would have to file suit.
[02:07:12.960 --> 02:07:18.320]  They would have to serve the other party. And once the other party was served,
[02:07:19.040 --> 02:07:25.600]  now the court has jurisdiction. Until that's done, the court can't step in at all.
[02:07:25.760 --> 02:07:32.240]  In this case, they didn't do that. They said, hey, sending all these people to El Salvador,
[02:07:32.240 --> 02:07:39.120]  you got to stop him. You got to do it now because if we wait until we get a suit filed,
[02:07:39.840 --> 02:07:42.640]  it'll be moot, they'll already be in El Salvador.
[02:07:44.160 --> 02:07:49.840]  And the judge cannot preemptively take on the case because some harm may accrue in the interim.
[02:07:50.080 --> 02:08:00.000]  They have to file an action showing harm, put it before the court with their original
[02:08:00.000 --> 02:08:06.000]  complaint, they can ask for an injunction. So you think that judicial stays should not exist?
[02:08:07.360 --> 02:08:11.760]  Yeah, they exist. No, but they should not exist.
[02:08:12.400 --> 02:08:14.880]  No, but they should not exist.
[02:08:14.880 --> 02:08:22.160]  Only when the judiciary has jurisdiction. And there are steps that must be taken.
[02:08:23.040 --> 02:08:26.400]  Whoever filed for this injunction should have filed suit.
[02:08:28.000 --> 02:08:33.600]  So if there was a stay against the COVID vaccine under the Biden administration,
[02:08:33.600 --> 02:08:38.160]  would that not be valid? No, not unless someone claimed harm.
[02:08:38.720 --> 02:08:45.440]  Okay. And file suit, and then based on my suit, ask for a stay.
[02:08:46.160 --> 02:08:47.440]  Pastor, do you agree with that?
[02:08:50.960 --> 02:08:58.560]  I will admit that Mr. Kelton's knowledge of the particulars of law is superior to mine.
[02:08:58.560 --> 02:09:01.120]  I've been listening to him. He sounds like he's saying he's correct.
[02:09:02.000 --> 02:09:07.840]  No, but would you agree that the stays put on the vaccine mandate during the Biden administration
[02:09:07.840 --> 02:09:13.520]  were valid or not valid? Because they were valid. Biden, Biden obeyed them.
[02:09:16.800 --> 02:09:18.160]  Who issued the stay?
[02:09:20.160 --> 02:09:24.080]  It would have been the courts. It would have been some sort of district or circuit court.
[02:09:24.720 --> 02:09:27.680]  I don't know the particulars about it, but there were stays that were put on
[02:09:28.240 --> 02:09:34.640]  the vaccine mandates. If you go back and look at it, you're going to find somebody filed suit
[02:09:34.640 --> 02:09:38.480]  because of these vaccine mandates.
[02:09:39.840 --> 02:09:43.520]  So the courts started misbehaving under the Trump administration?
[02:09:45.120 --> 02:09:49.040]  You're talking very hypothetical at the moment. You're going very hypothetical. We're not talking
[02:09:49.040 --> 02:09:54.400]  about specific cases. You're generalizing it, and I could not, and even Randy can't give a specific
[02:09:54.400 --> 02:09:59.360]  answer to a hypothetical case. I know you're saying they happened. I kind of remember that.
[02:09:59.360 --> 02:10:00.080]  They did, yeah.
[02:10:00.880 --> 02:10:04.800]  But which cases and what were the facts of the case? I can't answer. You guys are getting
[02:10:04.800 --> 02:10:06.880]  bogged down on this. You're probably going to bore the listeners.
[02:10:08.000 --> 02:10:16.880]  This is in order for a court to have jurisdiction, there must be a case in controversy.
[02:10:16.880 --> 02:10:24.720]  And if the courts issued injunctions, they had to issue an injunction based on a case that was
[02:10:24.720 --> 02:10:29.280]  filed before them. You can't file one just because they think something's wrong.
[02:10:30.480 --> 02:10:32.720]  We can agree on that.
[02:10:32.720 --> 02:10:41.040]  And that's what Trump is saying. Nobody sued me. Somebody has to sue me and tell me precisely
[02:10:41.040 --> 02:10:48.560]  why I'm being sued. And once that suit is filed with the court, now you can ask the court for
[02:10:48.560 --> 02:10:54.160]  an injunction because to file this suit, I brought this controversy before the court.
[02:10:54.160 --> 02:11:00.320]  Now stop him before he drops him off in El Salvador because if that happens,
[02:11:00.320 --> 02:11:07.280]  then the whole issue will be moot. So I would lose my remedy. So the court would have power
[02:11:07.280 --> 02:11:10.880]  to issue that injunction. And what Trump is saying, nobody filed suit.
[02:11:12.640 --> 02:11:21.680]  The court just sues Sponte issued an order. He don't have power to do that. Does that make sense?
[02:11:24.160 --> 02:11:25.520]  Pastor, have I missed something?
[02:11:27.760 --> 02:11:31.600]  No, not at all. I think you're good. I think we should go beyond this though,
[02:11:31.600 --> 02:11:34.640]  because where else do you wanna go?
[02:11:37.200 --> 02:11:41.200]  I think you guys have done a good job answering this issue.
[02:11:43.520 --> 02:11:48.640]  Okay, so now what's gonna happen? What do you think will happen?
[02:11:48.960 --> 02:11:56.640]  I'm looking at it and I'm thinking that when this gets before the appellate courts,
[02:11:56.640 --> 02:12:02.160]  the appellate courts are gonna say, judge, show me the case in controversy,
[02:12:02.160 --> 02:12:06.800]  they're gonna throw it out. I think Trump knew that his lawyers told him that
[02:12:07.760 --> 02:12:14.160]  if I can figure it out and I'm just a pro se chump, he's got some of the best lawyers
[02:12:14.160 --> 02:12:18.480]  in the country. They figured it out quickly, but sometimes they don't.
[02:12:18.480 --> 02:12:25.440]  Our attorney general on the voting issue, he filed suit against Wisconsin,
[02:12:26.960 --> 02:12:36.720]  claiming that Wisconsin's laws, voting laws were corrupt and they diluted the power of
[02:12:36.720 --> 02:12:42.640]  Texan citizens' votes. What did he claim? What did he claim, Randy?
[02:12:43.040 --> 02:12:49.040]  Because they didn't follow their laws, they changed, they got different voting outcomes
[02:12:49.040 --> 02:12:52.000]  and that hurt Texas. That was his claim, Mr. Paxton.
[02:12:52.000 --> 02:12:58.240]  I looked at it and said, okay, Wisconsin didn't follow Wisconsin law.
[02:12:59.600 --> 02:13:07.760]  You don't have standing to raise that issue. I'm just a pro se, I looked at it and it
[02:13:07.760 --> 02:13:09.040]  jumped right out at me.
[02:13:10.000 --> 02:13:16.400]  But he has standing, Randy, if Wisconsin's actions injured Texans, he maintained it.
[02:13:16.400 --> 02:13:19.360]  The Supreme got it and said, are you kidding?
[02:13:20.240 --> 02:13:27.840]  You have no standing. It doesn't matter if what Wisconsin did diluted your vote,
[02:13:27.840 --> 02:13:31.440]  as long as Wisconsin did what Wisconsin did in Wisconsin.
[02:13:32.400 --> 02:13:35.200]  If they had come to Texas and done something, you'd have standing.
[02:13:36.160 --> 02:13:40.160]  But if you don't, there would have had to be a case in controversy.
[02:13:41.520 --> 02:13:43.360]  He should have known that, I knew that.
[02:13:44.880 --> 02:13:50.080]  I'm just, any lawyer would look at, first thing you gotta have is jurisdiction.
[02:13:50.080 --> 02:13:55.440]  They're gonna say, you don't have it, or standing. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain,
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[02:17:20.960 --> 02:17:22.880]  Trust in God, my friend.
[02:17:24.080 --> 02:17:25.840]  Tell him your problem, Dave.
[02:17:26.960 --> 02:17:28.640]  Call on his name once again.
[02:17:29.680 --> 02:17:31.680]  Miracle, you know, he worked the hand.
[02:17:32.480 --> 02:17:35.440]  The business, what you call him, you call him Buhuda.
[02:17:35.440 --> 02:17:38.080]  You call him an Allah, or you call him Jeovia.
[02:17:38.720 --> 02:17:40.960]  Call upon his name, and you call Rasta.
[02:17:41.680 --> 02:17:44.320]  Pray to him, and he'll deliver.
[02:17:44.320 --> 02:17:47.280]  Miracle, he work, and he work it all over.
[02:17:47.280 --> 02:17:49.440]  Make the blind see, and the deaf hear.
[02:17:50.240 --> 02:17:53.120]  Even make the cripple man get up walk, you see.
[02:17:53.120 --> 02:17:55.520]  Thank you for how that be, because you did it for me.
[02:17:56.320 --> 02:17:58.080]  Okay, we are back.
[02:17:58.080 --> 02:18:00.000]  Randy Kelton, Brent Fountainbuehler Radio,
[02:18:00.000 --> 02:18:01.920]  and everybody dropped off the board.
[02:18:01.920 --> 02:18:03.200]  This is Friday night.
[02:18:03.200 --> 02:18:05.520]  Sometimes on Friday nights,
[02:18:05.520 --> 02:18:08.480]  our phone server reboots itself for some reason.
[02:18:08.480 --> 02:18:11.200]  No, no, our phone server does not reboot itself.
[02:18:11.200 --> 02:18:12.560]  It's our provider.
[02:18:12.560 --> 02:18:14.080]  They reboot their servers.
[02:18:14.080 --> 02:18:16.640]  Our phone server provider reboots itself.
[02:18:16.640 --> 02:18:18.400]  We don't do it, but this is something
[02:18:18.400 --> 02:18:19.760]  we don't have control over.
[02:18:19.760 --> 02:18:21.440]  Everyone's want it reboots itself.
[02:18:21.440 --> 02:18:23.760]  So when that happens, if you get dropped off,
[02:18:23.760 --> 02:18:24.800]  just call back in.
[02:18:24.800 --> 02:18:25.200]  Mary, if you're...
[02:18:25.200 --> 02:18:26.080]  Tell them to call back in.
[02:18:26.880 --> 02:18:28.160]  There's money on the account.
[02:18:28.160 --> 02:18:29.280]  Just tell them to call back in.
[02:18:32.080 --> 02:18:33.440]  Do I sound confused, guys?
[02:18:34.400 --> 02:18:37.280]  My producer's talking to me in my headset while I'm talking.
[02:18:37.280 --> 02:18:39.600]  And I did not multitask well.
[02:18:39.600 --> 02:18:41.680]  I'm not on the air, by the way, guests.
[02:18:41.680 --> 02:18:42.720]  I'm not on the air.
[02:18:42.720 --> 02:18:44.080]  Okay, yeah, yeah.
[02:18:44.080 --> 02:18:46.480]  The VoIP provider rebooted their servers.
[02:18:46.480 --> 02:18:47.840]  This happens on Friday nights once in a while.
[02:18:47.840 --> 02:18:48.960]  Just tell people to call back in.
[02:18:49.680 --> 02:18:50.400]  Okay, I got it.
[02:18:50.400 --> 02:18:50.900]  Okay.
[02:18:52.960 --> 02:18:59.520]  So Pastor Massad, we've kind of beat up this issue.
[02:19:02.240 --> 02:19:03.680]  I don't know if you've beat up the issue,
[02:19:03.680 --> 02:19:05.520]  but you sure beat up Nick, which is good.
[02:19:07.840 --> 02:19:12.960]  But anyway, I want to talk about something else.
[02:19:12.960 --> 02:19:14.160]  We can raise another subject here.
[02:19:14.160 --> 02:19:15.840]  If callers come in, we can jump in and out.
[02:19:17.280 --> 02:19:25.040]  There was recently a meeting in the Oval Office with President Zelensky from Ukraine.
[02:19:26.000 --> 02:19:28.000]  And obviously, President Trump,
[02:19:28.560 --> 02:19:30.960]  Vice President Vance, there are other people there.
[02:19:30.960 --> 02:19:34.480]  And they get into quite an argument going on.
[02:19:34.480 --> 02:19:42.240]  And I personally want to say I was so proud of Vice President Vance for just jumping in.
[02:19:42.240 --> 02:19:44.720]  Because you know that before any meeting like that,
[02:19:45.360 --> 02:19:49.440]  all the people have hammered out all these details and they've come forth with an agreement.
[02:19:49.440 --> 02:19:56.320]  That's the only reason a live meeting in the Oval is happening with the American press
[02:19:56.320 --> 02:20:02.480]  right there. And from what I could glean out of it, Mr. Zelensky was going off script.
[02:20:02.480 --> 02:20:08.160]  And Mr. Vance called him on that and said, basically, how dare you do that in front of
[02:20:08.160 --> 02:20:13.520]  the American media? Relitigate this with all due respect, sir. And it's been very interesting to
[02:20:14.080 --> 02:20:19.280]  see afterward some of the things that Mr. Zelensky was saying under his breath
[02:20:19.280 --> 02:20:23.360]  in whatever the Ukrainian language is, some people have interpreted it.
[02:20:23.360 --> 02:20:29.680]  And he was quite upset. And Donald Trump shut him down, said, listen, you're not holding any cards.
[02:20:29.680 --> 02:20:36.800]  And then he began to do a few things, I believe, just to let Mr. Zelensky know that he's very
[02:20:36.800 --> 02:20:42.800]  serious. And he withheld intelligence information from him and a couple of other things.
[02:20:42.800 --> 02:20:47.440]  And Nick observed all that and had some thoughts. And I wanna give him an opportunity,
[02:20:47.440 --> 02:20:50.880]  if we can, to share some of his thoughts. He began to write a white paper about it.
[02:20:51.520 --> 02:20:53.360]  And Nick, go ahead, you kinda take it away there.
[02:20:54.080 --> 02:21:05.920]  Sure. I wrote a very negative op-ed, not an op-ed in paper, but an op-ed on my laptop
[02:21:06.480 --> 02:21:17.360]  about what had happened. And I was pretty negative about it. I think that bringing up the
[02:21:18.000 --> 02:21:24.480]  clothing that the president of Ukraine is wearing is not good.
[02:21:26.960 --> 02:21:33.920]  I think that having a yelling match with the president of a war-torn country is not good.
[02:21:36.320 --> 02:21:39.040]  I basically disagreed with all of it. I disagree with the
[02:21:39.200 --> 02:21:47.280]  the stopping of the sharing of the intelligence with Ukraine in regard to what Russia was doing
[02:21:47.280 --> 02:21:53.360]  and what they were going to do next. I disagreed with stopping of the military aid. And there were
[02:21:53.360 --> 02:22:01.680]  some rumors about stopping the Starlink that Elon Musk had provided to Ukraine to provide them with
[02:22:01.680 --> 02:22:13.440]  internet. That was a problem there. And I've admitted to Pastor that things have basically
[02:22:15.040 --> 02:22:21.280]  mellowed out. After that point, Europe stepped up its funding to Ukraine. Zelensky is more
[02:22:21.920 --> 02:22:29.920]  receptive to what Donald Trump has to say. So it seems like a net benefit. But I did have
[02:22:29.920 --> 02:22:40.640]  issues with the course of action that was taken to get to that place. And so that's kind of where
[02:22:40.640 --> 02:22:48.640]  I was at it. I agree with you. I was very uncomfortable with what I saw. I thought having that
[02:22:51.120 --> 02:22:55.440]  in front of the public was exceptionally unprofessional.
[02:22:56.320 --> 02:23:04.800]  Both, primarily the president had Zelensky in as a guest. And the president and the vice president
[02:23:04.800 --> 02:23:09.120]  jumped all over him in front of the press. I thought that was just wrong.
[02:23:09.840 --> 02:23:12.240]  Should have stopped that interview, sent the press out.
[02:23:13.280 --> 02:23:16.960]  You do this in the background. Don't have your fights in front of the public.
[02:23:17.600 --> 02:23:22.960]  I was in the military. This kind of stuff don't happen in the military.
[02:23:23.680 --> 02:23:30.960]  If two individuals of equal stature are having a disagreement, they take that in the back. They
[02:23:30.960 --> 02:23:39.920]  don't do it in front of everybody. I thought it diminished the president's standing, his image
[02:23:39.920 --> 02:23:48.080]  greatly. Especially with Vance and Trump both attacking him about his dress. His dress was
[02:23:48.080 --> 02:23:58.480]  how it was his signature. For them to attack him based on his dress, that was just nonsense.
[02:23:58.480 --> 02:24:07.040]  I was really not happy with that. However, in understanding what the real problem is,
[02:24:07.040 --> 02:24:10.480]  I never hear the press talking about what the real problem is.
[02:24:11.280 --> 02:24:16.320]  The real problem is Ukraine is trying to join NATO.
[02:24:20.640 --> 02:24:25.920]  Cuba tried to join the Soviet Union. Remember what we did?
[02:24:26.720 --> 02:24:33.440]  Yep, not gonna happen. Brought us to the brink of thermonuclear exchange.
[02:24:33.440 --> 02:24:40.000]  We were not gonna have missiles off the coast of Florida. Not gonna happen. I was sitting
[02:24:40.480 --> 02:24:48.560]  the freshman in high school, sitting watching a television and I still remember seeing that
[02:24:48.560 --> 02:24:53.920]  merchant ships steam out from the flotilla and this battleship cameras on the battleship.
[02:24:53.920 --> 02:25:00.480]  The battleship turned and those 15 inch guns lowered on that merchant marine.
[02:25:00.480 --> 02:25:07.360]  And I'm thinking, holy gee me crickets, if they fire on that thing, all hell's gonna break loose.
[02:25:08.320 --> 02:25:16.400]  And in later history, it turned out it was. We had generals on each side ready to push the button.
[02:25:16.400 --> 02:25:21.600]  So if we're willing to do that to keep thermonuclear missiles off our border,
[02:25:22.480 --> 02:25:26.640]  what do you think Russia's gonna do to keep thermonuclear missiles
[02:25:26.640 --> 02:25:34.320]  from within 200 miles or 200 clicks of Moscow? He would be insane to let that happen.
[02:25:35.280 --> 02:25:40.560]  The European Union set this up on purpose. They knew there was no way
[02:25:41.200 --> 02:25:46.720]  the Soviet Union is gonna allow Ukraine to become a part of NATO.
[02:25:46.720 --> 02:25:53.600]  Randy, you say they knew. They didn't know. It was known from the beginning.
[02:25:54.160 --> 02:25:58.240]  It was Joe Biden who encouraged the whole thing. And from the very beginning,
[02:25:58.880 --> 02:26:03.440]  before anyone said a word, Vladimir Putin for years had made it clear he would never allow
[02:26:03.440 --> 02:26:08.480]  Ukraine to become NATO because at that point, Moscow would be indefensible.
[02:26:09.120 --> 02:26:11.360]  Can I ask a question? Yeah.
[02:26:12.720 --> 02:26:17.600]  Okay, so if Donald Trump says that Ukraine will not become part of NATO,
[02:26:18.480 --> 02:26:23.680]  no matter what, why does Russia wanna leave the lines drawn where they are now?
[02:26:26.000 --> 02:26:29.360]  What lines? The lines that they have now.
[02:26:30.000 --> 02:26:37.440]  Russia has occupied a portion of Ukraine. And why do they not wanna withdraw those lines?
[02:26:39.920 --> 02:26:41.680]  Because they want access to the Black Sea.
[02:26:43.120 --> 02:26:47.120]  Well, that's a different point. If Russia attacked Ukraine because of
[02:26:47.120 --> 02:26:50.160]  the fact that they were going to become part of NATO,
[02:26:51.680 --> 02:26:55.760]  it's different than if Russia attacked Ukraine because they want access to the Black Sea.
[02:26:56.720 --> 02:26:58.640]  That was the Black Sea issue.
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[02:30:41.440 --> 02:30:54.800]  I won't let you pull the wool over my eyes. I simply must refuse your news, all soaked up in lies.
[02:30:54.800 --> 02:31:00.800]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Weave Law Radio, and we're going to go to our
[02:31:00.800 --> 02:31:11.520]  callers. We have Mary in Texas. Mary is a staunch, dyed-in-the-wool Republican. What do you have for
[02:31:12.400 --> 02:31:18.800]  Republican Mary? Who used to be a Democrat, but now she's reformed.
[02:31:18.800 --> 02:31:23.680]  Well, everyone wants to say I used to be a Democrat, but I was nothing
[02:31:23.680 --> 02:31:29.360]  before I was a Republican. I was devoted to the underclass and
[02:31:31.920 --> 02:31:40.960]  un-united grassroots, the real grassroots, as a boycott to the system. And then I discovered
[02:31:40.960 --> 02:31:46.320]  through some of our own friends that it is time to be an adult and join a party and argue at
[02:31:46.320 --> 02:31:52.240]  your executive committees under Robert rules of order. If you have not ever been on a committee
[02:31:52.240 --> 02:31:57.680]  or a commission or a board that uses Robert's rules of order, it will teach you quite a bit.
[02:31:57.680 --> 02:32:04.560]  And I think the point was made by one of the folks tonight that in order to gain access to
[02:32:04.560 --> 02:32:11.120]  the court, one must be, in some regard, a belligerent opponent. So it's as if one is
[02:32:11.120 --> 02:32:18.400]  entering the court, a tennis court, and decides to play a game. So once we all get to strict voting
[02:32:18.400 --> 02:32:27.520]  that parties do during their executive committees and at Democrat, Republican party functions,
[02:32:28.400 --> 02:32:35.200]  one realizes that often a secret ballot has to be counted. I mean, the ballots are promoted or
[02:32:36.400 --> 02:32:43.280]  given secretly, sometimes verbally, sometimes by the room. So becoming a participant
[02:32:44.080 --> 02:32:52.960]  in the government or what I see now as our children. So relating to the philosophy of
[02:32:52.960 --> 02:33:00.000]  this government being a republic, not a democracy or communism, relating to that as what a republic is
[02:33:00.640 --> 02:33:11.920]  that we own and control the government as purely an administration function of our societal compact.
[02:33:13.360 --> 02:33:22.800]  So the point being that if one isn't using their rights and isn't reflecting their knowledge,
[02:33:22.800 --> 02:33:28.640]  they cannot enter court, which has been stated on some pro se documents and some pro se issues
[02:33:28.640 --> 02:33:34.640]  about to enter court. I can't just be pro se by duplicating Randy's documents. I have to
[02:33:34.640 --> 02:33:41.920]  understand them. I can't enter court without understanding law. So all these sayings is what
[02:33:41.920 --> 02:33:48.800]  grants one a privilege to operate in these capacities. And it's like I was telling a
[02:33:50.080 --> 02:33:56.160]  very active military fellow at the Capitol, thank you for what you've done. And he said,
[02:33:56.160 --> 02:34:03.760]  it was an honor and a privilege. So these capacities that we must hold are honors
[02:34:03.760 --> 02:34:10.800]  and privileges, but unfortunately, they're also duties. I think we can call in people's duties by
[02:34:10.800 --> 02:34:20.480]  not engaging in public safety when they know a crime's being enacted. So if someone is full
[02:34:20.480 --> 02:34:28.400]  of fear, they really shouldn't enter court. If someone's full of ignorance or denial,
[02:34:28.400 --> 02:34:34.800]  they shouldn't enter court. It's a real battle. It is a very real battle. And some claim these
[02:34:34.800 --> 02:34:42.640]  battles are ecclesiastical, that they are spiritual. It's a very real battle. But my point,
[02:34:42.640 --> 02:34:48.080]  Randy, tonight was that that's what brought us together, is how do we deal with corrupt judges?
[02:34:48.080 --> 02:34:53.120]  I think we're all very clear that politicians are corrupt, that the military can get corrupt. But
[02:34:53.120 --> 02:35:00.720]  now that I have understanding of who God is and what spiritual authority means, or even what the
[02:35:00.720 --> 02:35:09.920]  power of truth is, it gives me an ability to function in an arena that might cause many dismay.
[02:35:11.520 --> 02:35:22.720]  So the jest is that we control the courts because we have knowledge and we have
[02:35:22.720 --> 02:35:32.560]  courage. And furthermore, teamwork, because I suggest everyone start a PAC or become a precinct
[02:35:32.560 --> 02:35:40.720]  chair. Done. Okay. I have a question for you, Mary. Remember a while back when I told you about all
[02:35:40.720 --> 02:35:48.240]  of the judges in Travis County are Democrats? We've looked into that, Randy. We've already
[02:35:48.240 --> 02:35:52.560]  looked into that, and we're not sure you had your facts correct. Because a lot of these seats were
[02:35:52.640 --> 02:35:58.960]  not oppositioned. I don't even know that they all were filled. I'm not sure. I mean, this is something
[02:35:58.960 --> 02:36:04.880]  that- Well, let me tell everybody else what I was talking about. I looked up this chart that showed
[02:36:04.880 --> 02:36:11.760]  the last election and the Democrat and Republican individual and what they won by. And all of these
[02:36:11.760 --> 02:36:21.200]  judges won by one to 2%. All of them. Yes. Narrow margin. This is something I had talked to somebody
[02:36:21.200 --> 02:36:29.360]  about and we dismissed it, but I need to look into it again because I forgot what our understanding
[02:36:29.360 --> 02:36:36.960]  of it was. Yeah. We might have one or two close races. How many district judges are there in
[02:36:36.960 --> 02:36:44.960]  Travis County? Is it 12? Oh, sir, you know more than I do on this. I think it's either 12 or 18.
[02:36:44.960 --> 02:36:51.680]  But I know there's at least 12. And every one I looked at, one of them was half a percentage point,
[02:36:51.680 --> 02:37:00.160]  like 0.59 and 1.2 and 2.1. All of them. That was disturbing.
[02:37:01.440 --> 02:37:06.000]  No, that is disturbing. And I'm gonna bring this up. We should be having a meeting again soon.
[02:37:09.760 --> 02:37:13.280]  It's difficult dealing with corruption. And if you're a Christian,
[02:37:13.280 --> 02:37:19.200]  you understand that it's nothing new about understanding the corruptive appetite of the
[02:37:19.200 --> 02:37:27.040]  human heart. As a poet, as a prior liberal, I thought the heart was the most pure thing.
[02:37:27.040 --> 02:37:34.720]  Christians view it as the most evil thing, that the heart is deeply corrupted. So all this being
[02:37:34.720 --> 02:37:39.920]  said, maybe I have no understanding of this because I come from divorced family and all kinds of stuff.
[02:37:39.920 --> 02:37:47.200]  I don't understand some basic things about family unity. But regardless, I now have learned to not
[02:37:47.200 --> 02:37:52.960]  necessarily trust the flesh and seek the New Testament.
[02:37:54.080 --> 02:37:58.640]  I was talking to Pastor Massad about my perception of the Bible.
[02:38:00.480 --> 02:38:04.400]  Everybody who listens to me very often knows I'm not religious.
[02:38:04.400 --> 02:38:13.840]  But in working and doing what I'm doing and working with police and public officials and
[02:38:14.880 --> 02:38:22.640]  people, something has stood out to me. There are no bad guys here. Okay, maybe there's one or two
[02:38:22.640 --> 02:38:29.120]  bad guys somewhere. They get around a lot. But for the most part, we have people
[02:38:29.120 --> 02:38:35.360]  doing what they think is right for what they think is the right reasons.
[02:38:36.080 --> 02:38:47.600]  But people come to cross purposes. I've read the Bible carefully, and while I'm not religious,
[02:38:48.160 --> 02:38:55.040]  I find it to be an absolute wonderful source of cultural wisdom.
[02:38:55.040 --> 02:39:02.640]  Judge not that you be not judged. Don't do that because God said you should.
[02:39:03.280 --> 02:39:11.760]  Do that because as a strategy dealing with human beings, it works really well.
[02:39:15.760 --> 02:39:23.280]  I'm trying to figure out what's wrong in the system. And once I set aside this whole notion
[02:39:23.280 --> 02:39:28.560]  of good and evil, set that over to the side there. And I assume that everybody out here is
[02:39:28.560 --> 02:39:33.360]  doing everything they're doing for what they believe from their perspective is in their own
[02:39:33.360 --> 02:39:40.000]  personal self-interest and in the self-interest of the group. Made this a whole lot easier.
[02:39:41.920 --> 02:39:47.760]  Now I don't get as angry at the police as I used to. I look at them and look at the position that
[02:39:47.840 --> 02:39:56.000]  we, you and I as citizens in a republic, have allowed the system to devolve into.
[02:39:58.000 --> 02:40:02.080]  The police were put in a position to where there were no checks and balances on them.
[02:40:03.600 --> 02:40:10.640]  So they could pretty well do anything they want to. We need discipline. We need checks and balances.
[02:40:10.640 --> 02:40:16.080]  I told my mother one day that, you know, when I was growing up,
[02:40:17.200 --> 02:40:21.200]  we had this guy, Benjamin Spock, who said, don't discipline your kids.
[02:40:21.760 --> 02:40:26.080]  Don't raise your kids the way they've done it for the last 6,000 years. Let them find themselves.
[02:40:26.960 --> 02:40:36.320]  We are now reaping the whirlwind of that. I told my mom that, you know, Benjamin Spock said this,
[02:40:36.320 --> 02:40:41.040]  but you and daddy, you're just a couple of old ignorant sharecroppers. You're too darn
[02:40:41.040 --> 02:40:46.960]  know any better. You raised me the way your father raised you and his father him.
[02:40:46.960 --> 02:40:49.600]  She said, well, thanks a lot. I said, yeah, thanks a lot.
[02:40:51.040 --> 02:40:55.680]  You gave me discipline. We have a whole generation that doesn't have it.
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[02:43:22.480 --> 02:43:28.320]  Yeah, always I must be careful what I'm wishing for.
[02:43:29.680 --> 02:43:37.680]  When I'm hungry, I like to know just what I'm fishing for. I ain't asking for much. I ain't
[02:43:37.680 --> 02:43:44.160]  trying to be no glutton. I'm just here making my living pushing buttons.
[02:43:44.160 --> 02:43:56.320]  I get my message out to anyone in shouting distance. I vote for bravery and against slavery showing
[02:43:56.320 --> 02:44:04.480]  resistance. First I'm crawling, then I'm walking, then I start strutting. I'm just so glad to make
[02:44:04.480 --> 02:44:06.800]  my living pushing buttons.
[02:44:20.320 --> 02:44:26.640]  We sat down to play Monopoly. We all wanted to win the game. We gave some guy
[02:44:26.640 --> 02:44:33.040]  endless money supply. We must have not been thinking with brains. After some time worth of
[02:44:33.040 --> 02:44:39.680]  my dime got beat down. Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio.
[02:44:39.680 --> 02:44:46.400]  Okay, Mary, what do you have for us? Have you listened to our conversation up to this point?
[02:44:46.400 --> 02:44:59.920]  I have. A comment about the judges. I believe me and a chairman had decided that those judges
[02:45:00.640 --> 02:45:04.320]  that narrowly won, that most of them were uncontested.
[02:45:04.880 --> 02:45:08.160]  I mean, this is something we can look into, but it was our blanket.
[02:45:08.160 --> 02:45:12.960]  No, you can't narrowly win if you're uncontested. I didn't see any that were uncontested. Every one
[02:45:12.960 --> 02:45:19.200]  of them had a running mate. I had an opponent and they showed to beat them by one to two points.
[02:45:20.160 --> 02:45:26.000]  I'll look into it again. We both had thought they hadn't had a contest because a lot of our seats
[02:45:26.000 --> 02:45:37.120]  here were not contested. Yeah, we get a lot of that. In the county I live in, the prosecutors
[02:45:37.120 --> 02:45:42.880]  and the judges, they never get contested. They want the job. But this is the beginning.
[02:45:44.880 --> 02:45:50.640]  I was concerned with it being a blue bastion in a red state
[02:45:51.920 --> 02:45:58.960]  that somebody's manipulating the vote. Well, we'll talk at length about this privately
[02:45:58.960 --> 02:46:05.120]  because we had both dismissed it, me and a chairman of a committee. We both dismissed it as a
[02:46:07.840 --> 02:46:10.960]  non-raise. No one was seating against the person.
[02:46:12.480 --> 02:46:14.800]  Well, the ones I looked at all had an opponent.
[02:46:16.320 --> 02:46:23.040]  Okay, we'll go into those numbers later. But I'm just calling. Pastor Massad,
[02:46:23.040 --> 02:46:25.200]  it's so nice to meet you. I hear about you all the time.
[02:46:26.240 --> 02:46:27.280]  Well, it's good to meet you.
[02:46:28.640 --> 02:46:32.560]  And Mary, I always say nice things about the pastor, right? Right, right, right.
[02:46:33.360 --> 02:46:39.280]  Always. You just entertained him on a nice visit, didn't you, up in the north?
[02:46:40.800 --> 02:46:44.080]  Yes, I did. It was always a pleasure to have Randy come here and spend some time.
[02:46:45.520 --> 02:46:49.680]  Yeah, I've heard very good things about you. Are you the one that lives near the ancient
[02:46:51.280 --> 02:46:53.520]  electrical bridge dam?
[02:46:54.800 --> 02:46:55.040]  Yes.
[02:46:55.040 --> 02:46:56.320]  Oh, yeah, that one.
[02:46:56.320 --> 02:47:04.080]  Yes. First, I was able to get Randy, a private audience, in with that generator,
[02:47:04.080 --> 02:47:06.400]  hydroelectric. The first ones were built.
[02:47:07.200 --> 02:47:08.480]  That was a gift.
[02:47:09.600 --> 02:47:10.560]  By Thomas Edison.
[02:47:12.800 --> 02:47:16.640]  That's amazing. I wish maybe you'd do a documentary on that.
[02:47:17.440 --> 02:47:23.600]  Yeah, there's this three or four story factory building and the Canadian river is out back.
[02:47:24.240 --> 02:47:27.440]  It's not very deep and it's wide and it's pretty fast moving.
[02:47:27.440 --> 02:47:30.880]  And they've got a dam there, about six or eight feet high.
[02:47:32.160 --> 02:47:38.320]  And it went up there and you could hear the turbine spinning inside this building.
[02:47:38.320 --> 02:47:42.880]  And he took us in there and the old circular generator was still there,
[02:47:42.880 --> 02:47:47.200]  but it wasn't hooked up. They had a newer one hooked up to it running.
[02:47:48.160 --> 02:47:54.560]  The first hydroelectric plant ever made on planet Earth, built by Thomas Edison himself.
[02:47:55.200 --> 02:47:59.840]  That was an incredible gift and I thank you again for that, Pastor Massad.
[02:48:00.400 --> 02:48:03.760]  It was an exciting day for sure. You were like a kid in a candy store.
[02:48:03.760 --> 02:48:06.240]  Yeah. Well, I'm an engineer. I love that.
[02:48:09.120 --> 02:48:10.960]  Okay. Do you have anything else for us, Mary?
[02:48:11.680 --> 02:48:17.040]  Well, I was going to ask Mr. Massad, how did he become a preacher and what was his background?
[02:48:17.760 --> 02:48:28.480]  I grew up in the Northeast outside of Boston. I was very serious Catholic, was really considering
[02:48:28.480 --> 02:48:34.160]  becoming a Catholic priest at one point. It made up my mind I was going to. And to make a long story
[02:48:34.160 --> 02:48:42.000]  very short, I ended up in what I thought was a chance meeting, meeting of a born again Christian
[02:48:42.000 --> 02:48:47.440]  couple. And all they do is they help me raise a few questions. And over the course of the next
[02:48:47.440 --> 02:48:51.760]  year, the Lord made himself very real to me and showed me that the call into the ministry was
[02:48:51.760 --> 02:48:56.560]  legitimate, but that he wanted me into more of the Christian church rather than the Catholic
[02:48:56.560 --> 02:49:01.360]  church. And I see all the differences and we're very blessed to see the power of God move all
[02:49:01.360 --> 02:49:06.560]  the time and we see people be healed and lots of deliverances. And it's led to what we have here
[02:49:06.560 --> 02:49:10.560]  in New York and we have a huge missionary operation in Mexico now as well.
[02:49:12.080 --> 02:49:17.440]  Tell us about your next operation. Do you still have the two orphanages?
[02:49:18.400 --> 02:49:24.480]  We do that. We have a Bible college there. We partner with the rehab center as well.
[02:49:25.040 --> 02:49:29.040]  And our ministry there is in over 55 cities now and growing.
[02:49:29.040 --> 02:49:43.040]  That's amazing. With Mexico and foreign countries, is the drive to put ministries there
[02:49:43.040 --> 02:49:49.120]  to convert the pagan or are these already Catholics? Are these folks who've never been
[02:49:49.120 --> 02:49:56.240]  churched? Why do we always look at ministries going international rather than stay home and
[02:49:56.240 --> 02:50:02.960]  doing ministries here? Well, in our case, it was a door open, an opportunity came up.
[02:50:04.320 --> 02:50:11.200]  We took advantage of the opportunity and honestly, I didn't think much would come except for the
[02:50:11.200 --> 02:50:18.800]  first orphanage. But God had other plans and over the course of 20 plus years now, we've really
[02:50:18.800 --> 02:50:24.560]  grown. So we were, as a US pastor, I never had any interest in missions. I always respected
[02:50:24.560 --> 02:50:28.160]  missionaries, thought they did a great job, loved it when they came to our church.
[02:50:29.040 --> 02:50:34.560]  But I was a US pastor, I had no vision for missions whatsoever. And God had other plans
[02:50:34.560 --> 02:50:43.440]  and now here we are. Can a mission be done in one's own nation? Sure, absolutely.
[02:50:45.120 --> 02:50:51.520]  And would that be seen as something going to a poverty stricken area or inner city or how?
[02:50:52.480 --> 02:50:57.600]  Or D, all the above kind of thing. I mean, I'm waiting for the Lord to give me the call
[02:50:57.600 --> 02:51:07.840]  to Beverly Hills to open up a mission there. When I was thinking and I just saw this,
[02:51:07.840 --> 02:51:14.160]  Randy, while I was on hold, I went to YouTube and JD Vance was announcing how they're going to take
[02:51:14.160 --> 02:51:20.960]  a case to the Supreme Court. Now, I know a lot of pro se activists in the past, including a friend
[02:51:20.960 --> 02:51:26.960]  or two of ours, have been upset when they go to the Supreme Court and get treated once again
[02:51:26.960 --> 02:51:38.480]  poorly by corrupt judiciary. So the question goes into the idea of educating people on how to control
[02:51:38.480 --> 02:51:44.960]  their government. I think as a sovereign and how you discuss the citizen's duty in a republic
[02:51:45.600 --> 02:51:53.440]  and the last point on media and mass misunderstanding of the citizen's duty
[02:51:54.320 --> 02:52:03.600]  and crime and civil unrest, I guess, carries on to like a narrative that these judges are
[02:52:05.920 --> 02:52:10.720]  activist judges. They're not using the words tyrannical. They're not using the words
[02:52:10.720 --> 02:52:15.440]  seditious. They're not using any of these criminal words and they're still not
[02:52:15.440 --> 02:52:21.440]  seeming to choose to empower the people with their ability to make criminal complaints.
[02:52:22.640 --> 02:52:29.760]  So can you go into why judge is not an activist judge as everyone is calling them now,
[02:52:29.760 --> 02:52:32.080]  but they're actually what would you call them?
[02:52:32.080 --> 02:52:40.720]  Are you asking me or Randy?
[02:52:40.720 --> 02:52:43.440]  I'm asking Randy, I'm sorry.
[02:52:43.440 --> 02:52:50.400]  Oh, I thought you were asking Esther. I've looked at these judges and I have a good friend in
[02:52:50.400 --> 02:52:59.360]  White County, a judge. And when you get to know them and see who the house they live in,
[02:53:00.000 --> 02:53:03.920]  kind of get a different perspective. Pastor Massie gave me my
[02:53:03.920 --> 02:53:09.600]  best perspective on being a judge. He asked me to sit as a judge in mock court.
[02:53:11.440 --> 02:53:18.240]  And this was a guy in the patriot movement who had filed some liens against some public officials
[02:53:18.240 --> 02:53:26.160]  in Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania come after him. And I do my radio show and I talk to people about
[02:53:26.160 --> 02:53:32.080]  these issues. But when he set me up on that bench, I took off my radio
[02:53:33.680 --> 02:53:37.760]  broadcaster hat and put on a mock judicial hat.
[02:53:38.800 --> 02:53:44.880]  So I'm sitting up here waiting for them to bring me the facts and the laws that applies to those
[02:53:44.880 --> 02:53:51.840]  facts. Well, they're preaching all this patriot stuff. At one point, I called for a recess
[02:53:51.840 --> 02:53:54.800]  and I told the guy, I said, you got this guy helping you here.
[02:53:54.800 --> 02:53:58.720]  If he gets up and says anything else, you have my permission to shoot him.
[02:53:59.920 --> 02:54:07.920]  He's gonna get you put in jail. I'm the judge here. The only thing I can do,
[02:54:09.040 --> 02:54:13.840]  the only thing I could use is you must give me the facts in accordance with the rules of evidence.
[02:54:14.800 --> 02:54:22.080]  Then give me the law as it applies to those facts. The prosecutor, he will,
[02:54:22.080 --> 02:54:27.840]  it was Pastor Massad. He was tough. He brought the wrath of God on him.
[02:54:28.800 --> 02:54:33.920]  He brought me the facts and he gave me a different set of law. First guy never gave me any law.
[02:54:34.960 --> 02:54:40.320]  He gave me political theory and ideology. And I'm sitting here saying, okay,
[02:54:40.880 --> 02:54:47.840]  I wanna be on your side. I'm one of you guys. Give me something I can work with. But they didn't.
[02:54:49.280 --> 02:54:56.560]  And it was incredibly frustrating having to sit there listening to them, knowing they're
[02:54:56.560 --> 02:55:04.480]  shooting themselves in the foot. But because I'm bound within this position, I can't tell them
[02:55:04.480 --> 02:55:11.600]  you're shooting yourself in the foot. I can't guide them. And I watched these judges. The last
[02:55:11.600 --> 02:55:16.880]  time I was in my district court, some people called me, this kid is, the courts are coming
[02:55:16.880 --> 02:55:21.360]  after him and they're trying to railroad him and blah, blah, blah. I get down there, he's got five
[02:55:21.360 --> 02:55:30.160]  criminal charges against him, two for spousal abuse, two for drugs and one for DUI. And he's
[02:55:30.160 --> 02:55:34.880]  representing himself. The district judge, whom before that I didn't think much of at all,
[02:55:35.920 --> 02:55:46.560]  he spent 45 minutes trying to convince this guy, you need counsel. These charges are far too serious.
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[03:00:09.200 --> 03:00:19.120]  Okay, we're back.
[03:00:22.000 --> 03:00:35.520]  On this, the fourth day of April 2025, and our Friday four hour info marathon. I'll get that
[03:00:35.520 --> 03:00:44.560]  right in a minute. And we're talking to Mary in Texas. And I was talking about being a mock judge.
[03:00:44.560 --> 03:00:49.280]  Pastor Massad and Nick had to drop off. It's midnight in New York where they're at.
[03:00:49.840 --> 03:00:54.640]  I think we kind of wore them out. But I said as a mock judge and he was frustrating.
[03:00:56.240 --> 03:01:03.120]  We, Mary, we should put together some mock courts and have people rotate through the different
[03:01:03.120 --> 03:01:12.960]  positions. Be the policeman and come before the court and do things from the perspective
[03:01:12.960 --> 03:01:17.280]  of the policeman. You'll get to see things from a different set of eyes.
[03:01:19.520 --> 03:01:26.560]  Sit as a judge. You sit as a prosecutor, defense counselor. You'll get a different perspective on
[03:01:27.280 --> 03:01:37.200]  why these things work too. Don't be quite so prone to demonize these people.
[03:01:39.360 --> 03:01:48.400]  Watch this judge sit in this traffic case and they got one guy after another, after another,
[03:01:48.400 --> 03:01:54.000]  after another, after another, after another. They're all arguing the same things. They're all
[03:01:54.000 --> 03:01:57.040]  jumping up and down and railing in righteous indignation.
[03:01:57.040 --> 03:02:01.920]  And the judge has to sit there and listen to it. And you can just see how frustrated he is.
[03:02:02.720 --> 03:02:06.880]  Because they have no idea what they're doing. They're arguing the wrong issues,
[03:02:06.880 --> 03:02:11.280]  not giving him anything to work with. And he winds up finding everybody guilty.
[03:02:13.920 --> 03:02:18.720]  I don't think I could be a judge. It'd make me crazy. Could you be a judge, Mary?
[03:02:19.280 --> 03:02:25.520]  Um, maybe after a little bit of study, but not-
[03:02:25.520 --> 03:02:30.000]  Could you sit up there watching someone screw themselves?
[03:02:31.040 --> 03:02:37.280]  This district judge saw this guy screwing himself. And he knew he was screwing himself.
[03:02:38.080 --> 03:02:45.040]  He spent 45 minutes trying to convince this guy. He had court appointed counsel and it fired him.
[03:02:45.040 --> 03:02:52.320]  Trying to get him to take that counsel. Did not want to convict this guy
[03:02:52.320 --> 03:02:55.440]  without him having representation. What kind of judge does that?
[03:02:58.240 --> 03:03:05.760]  Certainly wasn't trying to railroad this guy. This was a bad guy. Beating up his wife,
[03:03:05.760 --> 03:03:12.960]  beating his kids, drunk, on drugs. I mean, guy was really a scumbag, but the judge still
[03:03:15.040 --> 03:03:19.200]  didn't want him to screw himself any worse than he had to.
[03:03:21.120 --> 03:03:26.720]  I talked to a county judge who I'm also friends with. He told me what he tells people when they
[03:03:26.720 --> 03:03:30.720]  come before him. Tells them, you know, you can make a statement if you want to.
[03:03:32.480 --> 03:03:36.960]  But you might be careful about that. Because if you make a statement,
[03:03:38.880 --> 03:03:44.160]  you know everything that happened. Prosecutor, he may or may not know.
[03:03:45.200 --> 03:03:51.920]  So if you make a statement, might wind up telling the prosecutor something he can use against you.
[03:03:53.520 --> 03:03:59.680]  I sat there and listened to him and this guy's just, he's a real easygoing guy anyway.
[03:03:59.680 --> 03:04:02.880]  I wanted him to videotape his cheatings.
[03:04:02.880 --> 03:04:05.440]  Nice.
[03:04:06.560 --> 03:04:12.640]  The guy before him, Judge Coode, he was just a genuinely nice guy.
[03:04:13.280 --> 03:04:19.680]  And I go sit in his court and he is absolutely polite and respectful to everybody.
[03:04:20.720 --> 03:04:26.720]  The only ones I see that are real stinkers are municipal judges and JPs.
[03:04:28.320 --> 03:04:32.160]  Down here on the bottom, you get up higher and these judges are professionals and
[03:04:32.160 --> 03:04:36.080]  act like professionals. And everybody should see these guys.
[03:04:36.080 --> 03:04:40.000]  They should have saw this district judge, whom I have very little useful,
[03:04:42.000 --> 03:04:48.720]  obviously struggling and tortured that this kid is trying to represent himself.
[03:04:48.720 --> 03:04:55.760]  And obviously, he has no idea what he's doing. He has no idea how to get evidence,
[03:04:55.760 --> 03:04:59.040]  put on the record, has no idea how to defend himself.
[03:04:59.600 --> 03:05:04.640]  But he's talked to these patriot guys and I'm sitting out there and I appear to be one of them.
[03:05:05.600 --> 03:05:09.520]  But they told him all this BS and all they're gonna do is get him put in jail.
[03:05:10.720 --> 03:05:14.480]  It's frustrating. So they're not all bad guys.
[03:05:15.440 --> 03:05:19.840]  And the whole perspective of me reading back through the Bible,
[03:05:19.840 --> 03:05:23.680]  looking for a prescription for life, I found it was right.
[03:05:25.760 --> 03:05:34.800]  Judge not that you be not judged. But I took that at heart. If I can say he's just evil,
[03:05:35.840 --> 03:05:43.200]  then I can wash my hands of it. But if I can't say he's evil, what can I do? What have I got?
[03:05:44.400 --> 03:05:47.600]  There is no such thing as good and evil. Now, Bible tells you
[03:05:48.640 --> 03:05:52.240]  that there may be such things as good and evil. You can't think that way.
[03:05:52.240 --> 03:05:58.800]  Jesus and God, maybe they can, you can't. So if I can't think in terms of good and evil,
[03:05:58.800 --> 03:06:08.960]  what have I got left? Well, it's wrong. And if I decide he's wrong, that begs the question,
[03:06:08.960 --> 03:06:17.440]  how is he wrong? And how he's wrong begs the question, what's the remedy?
[03:06:18.400 --> 03:06:27.040]  And it invokes in me the responsibility of bringing the remedy and correcting someone
[03:06:27.040 --> 03:06:34.400]  who's wrong, I don't get to wash my hands of him. So whether there's good, evil or not,
[03:06:35.040 --> 03:06:42.160]  end of the day doesn't matter. If I conduct myself as if there is no such thing as
[03:06:42.160 --> 03:06:44.480]  good and evil, then I can wash my hands of him.
[03:06:44.480 --> 03:06:49.120]  People only are what they are. Everybody does what they believe is in their
[03:06:50.240 --> 03:06:53.040]  personal self-interest and in the self-interest of the group.
[03:06:54.560 --> 03:06:57.840]  If they're not doing a good job of it and they're going in the wrong direction,
[03:06:59.200 --> 03:07:04.320]  then it behooves me to help them figure that out. Just leads to better outcomes.
[03:07:04.320 --> 03:07:12.640]  That's my story, I'm sticking to it. But back to these judges, do we still have
[03:07:13.200 --> 03:07:19.760]  someone in Austin pushing for, who was it that was pushing for paper ballots counting?
[03:07:24.000 --> 03:07:32.960]  I think right now Laura Presley was requesting some help with ballot watching, I think,
[03:07:32.960 --> 03:07:40.000]  ballot counting. She has a procedure and there's some active members in our executive committee.
[03:07:41.760 --> 03:07:43.200]  I would like to talk to them.
[03:07:44.960 --> 03:07:50.640]  I reached Laura with my other friend, I'll probably see them monthly.
[03:07:51.840 --> 03:07:54.880]  What I want to tell them is, look, there's a different strategy here.
[03:07:55.840 --> 03:08:02.560]  If you're a poll watcher and you think something is being done improperly,
[03:08:02.560 --> 03:08:05.440]  don't go in there and jump up and down and shake your fist at them.
[03:08:09.760 --> 03:08:14.640]  That's what the police are for. They're not here just to arrest people and throw them in jail.
[03:08:14.640 --> 03:08:23.120]  They're here to handle disagreements, handle problems and issues. If you go in there,
[03:08:23.120 --> 03:08:30.400]  there'll be a big fight. Call 911 and ask for an officer. Tell them, I think I see
[03:08:31.120 --> 03:08:37.040]  improprieties, the voting process. I need you to send an officer down here to investigate.
[03:08:39.040 --> 03:08:43.760]  When the officer goes in there and talks to them, starts asking them questions,
[03:08:45.200 --> 03:08:48.960]  he's going to get their attention in a way that you would not.
[03:08:53.920 --> 03:08:57.680]  He's not going to go in there with the idea of arresting someone.
[03:08:58.800 --> 03:09:04.080]  He's going to go in there as a mediator. Since he's wearing the badge, he's going to say,
[03:09:05.520 --> 03:09:08.240]  they have reason to believe that crimes have been committed here.
[03:09:08.880 --> 03:09:17.360]  Want to show me why that's not true. And then the voting judge, they're up on their tippy toes.
[03:09:18.240 --> 03:09:22.560]  They got to answer to this policeman. They might not feel like they have to answer to you.
[03:09:23.920 --> 03:09:28.880]  But whether they're doing something wrong or not, you have put them on their guard.
[03:09:30.880 --> 03:09:33.920]  And nobody gets in trouble. It's in a fight.
[03:09:35.280 --> 03:09:41.120]  Then you become a powerful presence. That makes sense.
[03:09:41.200 --> 03:09:47.440]  Yeah. Yeah, I was just talking with a friend at the union today. And
[03:09:49.200 --> 03:09:53.120]  she was saying that when she worked at the bank, the police didn't always come,
[03:09:53.760 --> 03:09:59.920]  which they needed them. We're not always seeing the police respond.
[03:10:00.960 --> 03:10:01.520]  Austin.
[03:10:01.520 --> 03:10:05.200]  The police got defunded with the Georgia thing.
[03:10:05.200 --> 03:10:09.680]  Defunded. Austin is the only place I've ever called 911 and they didn't dispatch.
[03:10:10.640 --> 03:10:12.240]  Oh, really? What year was that?
[03:10:12.240 --> 03:10:17.040]  This is after the- They essentially told me scratch.
[03:10:18.560 --> 03:10:20.080]  Yeah, we get that a lot now.
[03:10:22.080 --> 03:10:26.320]  You were there. No, no, no, you weren't. You had ran out of the courthouse.
[03:10:30.320 --> 03:10:35.200]  Ran like a rabbit when I called 911 on the cop.
[03:10:36.160 --> 03:10:40.960]  Three or four verbal oppositions after I got three or four warnings.
[03:10:42.320 --> 03:10:45.840]  Yeah, Mary was with me. We went into the courthouse and they
[03:10:49.360 --> 03:10:54.640]  bailiff there gave me some crap and I crawled down his throat and Mary hit the door.
[03:10:54.640 --> 03:10:59.600]  That was good because if I got arrested, I needed somebody to drive my car home.
[03:10:59.600 --> 03:11:02.400]  Oh, well, there's-
[03:11:02.400 --> 03:11:07.200]  Went to Williamson County with Deborah and she made me give her my car keys.
[03:11:08.560 --> 03:11:09.280]  She knows.
[03:11:09.280 --> 03:11:11.760]  It was a good thing because I went out in handcuffs.
[03:11:16.320 --> 03:11:20.160]  Yeah, that's the day you served edition papers on the governor.
[03:11:21.520 --> 03:11:26.560]  Yeah, you were with me. Yeah, but I filed the complaints against him and that worked,
[03:11:26.560 --> 03:11:27.200]  or you know.
[03:11:29.200 --> 03:11:30.080]  That's amazing.
[03:11:31.360 --> 03:11:32.560]  Do you know what he did?
[03:11:36.000 --> 03:11:42.160]  That went before the grand jury. The governor rescinded all of his, all the 17 executive orders.
[03:11:43.520 --> 03:11:46.080]  That went in front of the grand jury?
[03:11:48.880 --> 03:11:52.000]  When he got in front of them, they no-billed him on all of it,
[03:11:52.000 --> 03:11:55.440]  but he rescinded all of his executive orders.
[03:11:56.720 --> 03:11:57.360]  What we did-
[03:11:57.360 --> 03:11:58.960]  How did you know they no-billed him?
[03:12:01.760 --> 03:12:02.720]  Prosecutor told me,
[03:12:06.240 --> 03:12:14.720]  but he sent them in front of him. He rescinded all of them. 18 states immediately followed suit.
[03:12:16.880 --> 03:12:18.000]  What state were those?
[03:12:18.960 --> 03:12:25.040]  See, these guys are, none of them were being bad guys. I looked at what happened and Trump
[03:12:26.000 --> 03:12:29.040]  threw a monkey wrench in all their works. They had this planned.
[03:12:30.560 --> 03:12:37.040]  They didn't expect Trump to get elected. He got elected and now they had a problem.
[03:12:37.840 --> 03:12:44.080]  He wasn't going for this nonsense. So they pulled the trigger on the pandemic earlier
[03:12:44.080 --> 03:12:45.120]  than they intended to.
[03:12:45.920 --> 03:12:46.240]  Yeah.
[03:12:47.840 --> 03:12:51.600]  Pandemic happened and the governor's sitting here and all this bad stuff's happening.
[03:12:51.600 --> 03:12:56.000]  And he's looking around and saying, I'm the highest executive officer in the state.
[03:12:56.000 --> 03:13:04.880]  I gotta do something. So he did these executive orders. Well, the problem is,
[03:13:04.880 --> 03:13:09.600]  is he exceeded his authority. And then Joe Sixpack is getting PO'd at him.
[03:13:10.480 --> 03:13:10.960]  Yeah.
[03:13:10.960 --> 03:13:17.760]  So his constituents are getting upset and he's looking around, what the heck do I do?
[03:13:18.320 --> 03:13:23.200]  So I go down there and file criminal charges against him. Now he's got plausible deniability.
[03:13:24.320 --> 03:13:29.520]  Okay, okay, rather than getting prosecuted for all of this, I'll rescind them all.
[03:13:30.640 --> 03:13:34.320]  And as soon as he rescinded his, 17 states did the same thing
[03:13:34.320 --> 03:13:42.000]  because they were having the same problem. Harry, you and I can have really powerful effect.
[03:13:43.760 --> 03:13:45.200]  Nobody knows we did that.
[03:13:45.200 --> 03:13:46.560]  I'm starting to believe you.
[03:13:49.040 --> 03:13:51.920]  Nobody knows we did that. We're in the background.
[03:13:52.720 --> 03:13:57.040]  The governor didn't say, oh, they kicked my behind. Hang on, we'll be right back.
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[03:17:37.840 --> 03:17:44.400]  Okay. We are back. Randy Kelton, Fountain Rouge, La Radio. We're talking to Mary in Texas. Okay,
[03:17:44.400 --> 03:17:49.040]  Mary, you have anything else for us? No, I think that's about it.
[03:17:50.800 --> 03:17:54.480]  Thank you for calling and thank you for being patient. My pleasure.
[03:17:56.160 --> 03:18:02.480]  Okay. Thank you. Good night, Mary. Good night. Okay. Now we're going to Roger in Wisconsin. Roger,
[03:18:02.480 --> 03:18:11.520]  what do you have for us today? Yes. Hi, Randy and Brett and anybody else still there, I guess.
[03:18:12.480 --> 03:18:18.640]  Yeah, the pastor and Nick dropped off. It's midnight in New York, so I kind of wore them out.
[03:18:19.920 --> 03:18:23.680]  Yeah, I did have a question for the pastor, but that's okay.
[03:18:23.680 --> 03:18:31.280]  Anyways, several different things. Once, when I was a young man with the Air Force,
[03:18:31.280 --> 03:18:37.200]  I know I really liked your story about your abrupt landing with the C-130.
[03:18:37.280 --> 03:18:44.320]  Oh. Did they tell you about taking off with the Jato bottles?
[03:18:46.320 --> 03:18:55.280]  No, I didn't. Yeah, they made us sign this contract and we went in in civilian clothes
[03:18:55.920 --> 03:19:05.200]  and they flew us all over in this Air America C-130. And we dropped into places and repaired
[03:19:05.760 --> 03:19:13.040]  primarily mini guns. And I think it's the M53, the 20 millimeter cannon that sits in the door
[03:19:13.040 --> 03:19:19.840]  of the helicopters, like 1,600 rounds a minute. And if they get dirty, they'll misfire. And if
[03:19:19.840 --> 03:19:28.880]  they misfire, they got this huge block about eight inches wide and 14 inches long at the chamber.
[03:19:30.080 --> 03:19:34.880]  It's got a pipe sticking out of the top of it. If it misfires, you got to grab that thing with
[03:19:34.880 --> 03:19:41.920]  both hands and recharge it. Well, if you're in a firefight, that's tough, takes a long time.
[03:19:41.920 --> 03:19:48.560]  So they sent us around cleaning these weapons. And we went into this one place in a C-130,
[03:19:48.560 --> 03:19:54.960]  the only place you can see out is the little sight glass by the rear main gear.
[03:19:54.960 --> 03:19:58.720]  So you can see if it's down and locked. And I always like to sit at the back so
[03:19:59.680 --> 03:20:04.800]  when the gear was down, I could see outside. Well, we're flying along and all of a sudden
[03:20:04.800 --> 03:20:13.440]  he rocks it over to about 40 degrees. 60, I'm a pilot at 60 degrees generally on a high wing
[03:20:13.440 --> 03:20:21.680]  aircraft. At 60 degrees, if you release the air, the controls, it'll come back level. At 61 degrees,
[03:20:21.760 --> 03:20:28.640]  it'll roll over the top. So we're about 45 degrees, that's pretty stiff, circling down in.
[03:20:28.640 --> 03:20:34.560]  And I'm looking out this side hole and all I can see is mountains. He rolls it over, sets it down,
[03:20:35.360 --> 03:20:39.600]  full reverse on the engine, full brakes, nearly threw us out of the straps.
[03:20:41.760 --> 03:20:49.360]  In a C-130, for you guys who don't know, it's maybe a cargo aircraft. And along the side,
[03:20:49.360 --> 03:20:54.320]  they've got cargo straps. They actually made it kind of a bench out of cargo straps.
[03:20:55.360 --> 03:21:02.560]  You sit on these straps and you buckle yourself in. Well, that two-inch cargo strap will go up to
[03:21:02.560 --> 03:21:08.480]  cracking your butt. Oh, it's horribly uncomfortable. So we're sitting in these and he hits the brakes
[03:21:08.480 --> 03:21:13.680]  and we thought we were going to break the straps. He's breaking so hard. We get out and this looked
[03:21:13.680 --> 03:21:22.240]  like a helicopter LZ. Now, I understood how he could get in because you can come in, lean back
[03:21:22.240 --> 03:21:28.400]  on the flaps and turn that airplane straight up in the air and push it into the wind and use the
[03:21:28.400 --> 03:21:34.160]  wings to stop it quickly. But we're looking around and said, how the heck is he going to get out of
[03:21:34.160 --> 03:21:40.720]  here? All there are are mountains around us and look about 10, 15,000 feet all around us. How the
[03:21:40.720 --> 03:21:45.280]  heck are we getting out of here? So we go fix the weapons. We come back and they've got three
[03:21:45.280 --> 03:21:52.640]  Jato bottles, jet assisted takeoff attached to each side of the airplane. They backed it up as
[03:21:52.640 --> 03:22:00.880]  far as they could. He told us to grab hold of something. The pilot did. They rev the engines
[03:22:00.880 --> 03:22:07.360]  all the way up, holding the brakes down, hit these Jato bottles. He let go of the brakes.
[03:22:07.360 --> 03:22:14.880]  That C-130 squatted and leaps straight up. I figured he'd circle out.
[03:22:14.880 --> 03:22:20.720]  He didn't. He went straight up just like a rocket. And the pilots are up there up front hollering,
[03:22:22.720 --> 03:22:27.760]  it went up to 30,000 feet and just set level, just like an elevator.
[03:22:28.000 --> 03:22:31.440]  That's STOL, if I ever did hear something else.
[03:22:32.800 --> 03:22:38.240]  You what? That was what? That's STOL, if I ever did hear that.
[03:22:39.840 --> 03:22:44.400]  T-O-L, what does that mean? STOL, short takeoff.
[03:22:44.400 --> 03:22:49.440]  Oh, stall, yes, short takeoff and landing. That's as short takeoff and landing as it gets.
[03:22:50.400 --> 03:22:51.440]  Really?
[03:22:51.440 --> 03:22:56.560]  They use STOL techniques to get it in, but to get it out, oh, that was incredible.
[03:22:58.960 --> 03:23:03.040]  Variable pitch props. Yeah, they do.
[03:23:06.080 --> 03:23:11.200]  I was with H, Ground Power, 928th Chicago Air Military.
[03:23:13.280 --> 03:23:14.720]  I was a weapon specialist.
[03:23:15.680 --> 03:23:16.160]  Yeah.
[03:23:16.160 --> 03:23:20.880]  I got the honor and privilege of loading bombs and rockets on fighter-type aircraft.
[03:23:20.880 --> 03:23:26.640]  When I got out of the military, I went to Eastern Airlines, wanted a job. They said,
[03:23:26.640 --> 03:23:31.440]  well, what did you do? And I said, I loaded bombs and rockets on fighter-type aircraft.
[03:23:31.440 --> 03:23:35.680]  They said, well, as soon as we start loading bombs and rockets, we'll call you.
[03:23:35.840 --> 03:23:42.480]  Yeah. Well, yeah, one good thing about that, there's no comebacks.
[03:23:44.640 --> 03:23:48.320]  Yeah, well, yeah, there was. Yeah, I know, I know.
[03:23:49.280 --> 03:23:58.720]  They get weather over the target, they come back. Man, we had one, a RB-66 come in with no nose gear.
[03:23:58.720 --> 03:24:00.960]  Yeah.
[03:24:00.960 --> 03:24:04.720]  You come in high, and I'm a pilot, and this guy's coming in about 100 feet.
[03:24:05.840 --> 03:24:09.200]  All the helicopters got up, got this little helicopter. It looks like the
[03:24:09.200 --> 03:24:16.240]  helicopter they used in MASH, that glass bell. And it had this ball under it.
[03:24:17.360 --> 03:24:21.840]  They had it on a trailer, and he would hover over it, and they'd hook onto it,
[03:24:21.840 --> 03:24:25.200]  and he would take off with it. And the guy's in a truck pulling the trailer
[03:24:25.920 --> 03:24:30.560]  to keep up with him until he got enough speed that he could lift it up. He could barely
[03:24:30.560 --> 03:24:37.040]  carry it. Well, he would get out over the runway, way down at the end of the runway.
[03:24:37.920 --> 03:24:42.880]  And as the airplane come in, it would pass over him, and then he'd take off and chase it.
[03:24:45.440 --> 03:24:48.960]  This guy had a, this ball under it was fire suppression.
[03:24:49.760 --> 03:24:56.320]  We had an F-4 come in with gear, with the tires out on one side. He hit the panic button
[03:24:56.320 --> 03:25:03.920]  to jettison all of his equipment, and the panic button failed. So he had 17, 750 pounders aboard,
[03:25:04.800 --> 03:25:11.680]  four sidewinders, four AIM-7s, two fuel tanks. This guy was loaded to the hilt.
[03:25:11.680 --> 03:25:19.040]  He's got a set of tires out. He sets this, eases this thing down. That
[03:25:20.320 --> 03:25:26.480]  gear with the bad tire hit the ground and lit up, and the whole, the wingtip hit the ground.
[03:25:26.480 --> 03:25:32.880]  The tank went off, and you could see him, a spiral of flame moving down the runway.
[03:25:33.520 --> 03:25:39.520]  And as that's happening, this little helicopter chases him down. As soon as he stopped,
[03:25:39.520 --> 03:25:46.320]  the helicopter ran over the top of him. He popped this ball open, and there was so much heat,
[03:25:46.320 --> 03:25:49.680]  the helicopter bobbed up like a cork, and then he got the heck out of there.
[03:25:51.920 --> 03:25:55.440]  We used to gripe about there, the firemen, because they got
[03:25:55.440 --> 03:25:59.760]  hazardous duty pain. We didn't. They sat around and didn't do anything all day.
[03:25:59.840 --> 03:26:09.040]  Except this day, we're back here. There's about 100 feet of flame.
[03:26:09.040 --> 03:26:15.200]  We see this fire truck pull up in front of it. It looked miniature relative to that wall of flame.
[03:26:16.080 --> 03:26:21.680]  And two guys got out in silver suits and ran through that wall of fire like it wasn't even there.
[03:26:23.280 --> 03:26:29.120]  We were impressed. And in about a couple minutes later, they come out
[03:26:29.120 --> 03:26:34.320]  like two silver Santa Clauses with a silver blanket behind them.
[03:26:34.320 --> 03:26:42.720]  They got the pilot and co-pilot in it. I looked at that and said, those guys, certifiably insane.
[03:26:44.240 --> 03:26:49.280]  But that ball put the airplane out, so there was a circle of fire around it.
[03:26:51.280 --> 03:26:52.400]  Okay. Amazing.
[03:26:52.400 --> 03:26:57.760]  Hang on. Going to break. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Wheel of Law Radio. We'll be right back.
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[03:30:18.080 --> 03:30:43.520]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton from Fountain Rule of Law Radio.
[03:30:44.160 --> 03:30:47.520]  I was talking to Deborah on the break, and she wanted me to finish the story,
[03:30:47.520 --> 03:30:55.600]  because there's more to this story. They got the airplane put out. Now, it had 17 750-pounders on
[03:30:55.600 --> 03:31:06.320]  it. These 750-pounders, 500 to 750, these bombs, they stand them on end and put a star-shaped
[03:31:06.880 --> 03:31:14.320]  form in the middle of it, and they mix up like concrete and pour it in around that form.
[03:31:15.200 --> 03:31:20.720]  Then they pull the form out. They put a fuse in each end, and when the fuse ignites, it fires,
[03:31:21.600 --> 03:31:27.680]  the fuse fires into the bomb, and it burns on this surface. The starship is in there
[03:31:27.680 --> 03:31:36.000]  to give it a lot more surface to burn on. And it'll burn building pressure inside the bomb,
[03:31:36.000 --> 03:31:42.000]  and at one point, the pressure will build to the point that all of the remaining tritonal in the
[03:31:42.000 --> 03:31:47.440]  bomb will spontaneously detonate like a diesel. That gives you a high-order yield.
[03:31:48.800 --> 03:31:56.480]  If the fuse breaks off, then it'll be like a firecracker that spews, except it'll throw a
[03:31:56.480 --> 03:32:04.320]  50-foot fireball around it. But this tritonal is really tough. We'd pick the—we got a 40-foot
[03:32:04.320 --> 03:32:10.320]  trailer with two 4x4s, run down the length of the trailer, and we'd set the bombs crossways
[03:32:10.320 --> 03:32:14.880]  on the trailer, front to back. And it'd pull under my hoist, and I'd pick up two of them,
[03:32:15.440 --> 03:32:19.600]  bring them over, and set them on two carts that would slide under my bomb racks.
[03:32:19.600 --> 03:32:23.280]  And then I'd go back, and I've got empty space under me. I'd spread my chains out
[03:32:23.840 --> 03:32:30.160]  and pick up a hook on a bomb on each side, raise it up, and the bombs would just clear the floor
[03:32:30.160 --> 03:32:35.680]  when they came together, and whack, whack, whack, whack. That's 750 pounds a piece.
[03:32:35.680 --> 03:32:40.800]  Put that down, and then I would reach out and get a third set. Those would be about a foot in the
[03:32:40.800 --> 03:32:47.440]  air when they came together. They'd slam together and bounce. But the tritonal is really tough.
[03:32:48.880 --> 03:32:57.520]  But once they've been subjected to some 12-negative Gs or to heat, the tritonal will crack and break
[03:32:57.520 --> 03:33:06.240]  in there. And if you turn it just right, a piece of that tritonal slides across. It can ignite,
[03:33:06.240 --> 03:33:12.720]  set the whole thing off. So they put the fire out, and they called out EOD,
[03:33:12.720 --> 03:33:19.840]  Explosive Ordnance Disposal. These five fat super-sarges sat around and did nothing all day,
[03:33:19.840 --> 03:33:24.320]  and they got hazardous duty pay. We loaded these things every day, and we didn't get
[03:33:24.320 --> 03:33:29.440]  hazardous duty pay. So these guys come out there, and they're about 50 feet from the airplane.
[03:33:29.440 --> 03:33:34.720]  The airplane's sitting there, and steam and smoke's still rising from it. They look it over,
[03:33:34.720 --> 03:33:41.680]  and they said, oh yeah, the guy pulled a cigar out of his mouth. Oh yeah, we certify the aircraft's
[03:33:41.680 --> 03:33:47.840]  safe to download. And he said, I was the crew chief's airman. You can download the airplane.
[03:33:47.840 --> 03:33:53.840]  I said, not a chance. I'm not touching that airplane. So they called the squadron commander,
[03:33:53.840 --> 03:33:59.840]  squadron commander come down. He knew me personally. We had a couple of run-ins together.
[03:34:01.520 --> 03:34:07.280]  And he came up, Sir, Airman Colton, what seems to be the problem here? And this EOD guy comes over,
[03:34:08.000 --> 03:34:15.040]  the chief master sergeant. Sir, we certified this aircraft safe to download, and this
[03:34:15.040 --> 03:34:22.800]  airman refused to allow his crew to download it. And the major looked at me and said,
[03:34:23.520 --> 03:34:26.800]  Airman Colton, is that true? Sir, yes, sir.
[03:34:27.840 --> 03:34:34.080]  Well, Airman Colton, why wouldn't you download this airplane? Well, sir, we could get killed, sir.
[03:34:35.600 --> 03:34:39.760]  Oh, you don't think that's, he turned to the
[03:34:41.760 --> 03:34:47.440]  chief EOD, and he said, sergeant, have you certified this aircraft safe to download? Sir,
[03:34:47.440 --> 03:34:53.120]  yes, sir. Well then, sergeant, won't mind downloading it, will you?
[03:34:57.120 --> 03:35:03.200]  The guy on the jammer, on the bob lift truck, he's running the jammer underneath one of the bombs,
[03:35:03.200 --> 03:35:10.240]  and they're gingerly unhooking the bomb. And the guy's got a cigarette in his mouth,
[03:35:10.240 --> 03:35:15.200]  and it's bouncing up and down. And the commander looked at his cigarette. He said,
[03:35:16.160 --> 03:35:19.200]  he's going to wind up with that fire on his cigarette in his lap.
[03:35:20.400 --> 03:35:24.720]  He said, I'm glad that it's safe to download. Sir, I am too, sir.
[03:35:26.880 --> 03:35:33.120]  The pilots were great. Titley Swaffs, the officers that were
[03:35:34.400 --> 03:35:39.920]  not pilots, they were always trying to prove themselves, and they were absolutely miserable,
[03:35:39.920 --> 03:35:46.560]  but I never had problems with pilots, except the Marines.
[03:35:49.920 --> 03:35:55.440]  I'm doing DRM on end of runway. We load the bombs on the airplane, and we put a pin in
[03:35:56.160 --> 03:36:02.000]  the ejector rack with a big long red streamer on it. That pin prevents them from dropping the
[03:36:02.000 --> 03:36:08.000]  bombs on the runway. They pull to the end of runway. The last thing that happens is we go
[03:36:08.000 --> 03:36:14.880]  pull those pins. I've got about 10 pins in my hand with my finger through the,
[03:36:14.880 --> 03:36:21.120]  there's a cable that goes from the pin to the stringer, and the stringer is like heavy canvas.
[03:36:21.120 --> 03:36:25.680]  And I stick my finger through that cable loop, and I've got about eight or 10 of them.
[03:36:26.480 --> 03:36:31.600]  And I walk past the engine. The pilot is supposed to put his hands up on the con,
[03:36:31.600 --> 03:36:35.840]  so we can see him. Well, he's a Marine pilot, and he's there screwing around,
[03:36:35.840 --> 03:36:42.720]  and he bumped the throttle. On an F-4 Phantom, the wing, the intake comes about
[03:36:42.720 --> 03:36:49.040]  eight inches below my shoulder. And I'm just walking past it when he bumped the throttle,
[03:36:49.040 --> 03:36:52.240]  and he grabbed those streamers and sucked them right down the intake.
[03:36:53.280 --> 03:37:00.560]  I've got a handful of hardened pins. If I lose those pins and they go down that intake,
[03:37:01.360 --> 03:37:08.000]  that initial compressor is gonna start breaking blades off. It's gonna collapse in on itself.
[03:37:08.000 --> 03:37:13.600]  It's gonna erupt right out the front, right where I'm at. So I'm holding on. I'm holding
[03:37:13.600 --> 03:37:18.400]  with both hands and got my head back so my ear textures don't go down the intake.
[03:37:21.120 --> 03:37:27.200]  My crew chief ran over and ripped off my headset and then banged on the side of the airplane and
[03:37:27.200 --> 03:37:32.560]  motioned the pilot to cut you, like cutting his throat to cut the engine. He sees what's
[03:37:32.560 --> 03:37:37.840]  going on. He kills the engine. Crew chief ran over and grabbed me, and when the suction dropped
[03:37:37.840 --> 03:37:44.080]  enough that it let go, he threw me to the ground, banged on the airplane, and gave him a circle
[03:37:44.880 --> 03:37:50.720]  to hook it back in. He kicks it back on. It coughed a couple of times. It caught, came up.
[03:37:51.440 --> 03:37:55.440]  If that engine had not came back up, that pilot's career would have been over.
[03:37:57.280 --> 03:38:03.520]  After that, every time we were at into runway, oh, the crew chief got the armament placard out
[03:38:03.520 --> 03:38:08.400]  and rode on it. Nothing happened and held it up to the pilot and the pilot agreed.
[03:38:09.760 --> 03:38:12.720]  Every time we came to into runway after that, we had a case of beer
[03:38:13.520 --> 03:38:19.360]  sitting there, and I thought it was the pilot. I'm in
[03:38:19.360 --> 03:38:28.720]  Tanzania Air Base in country, and my commander in Florida had
[03:38:29.360 --> 03:38:33.440]  steel-grey eyes, almost white, strangest eyes I'd ever seen.
[03:38:35.040 --> 03:38:41.280]  Helicopters all go up. This bent bird comes in. They've taken a hit in the exhaust,
[03:38:41.920 --> 03:38:48.160]  and it's went through the exhaust into the fuselage, so it's blowing hot exhaust out into
[03:38:48.160 --> 03:38:54.160]  the fuselage. They come in. The canopies are gone, so they pull the panic, the cord to eject.
[03:38:55.040 --> 03:38:59.200]  The backseater was jammed. He didn't go out. If the backseater doesn't go, the frontseater
[03:38:59.200 --> 03:39:04.720]  doesn't go. Plus, if the backseater, if the frontseater goes, if the backseater in there, his
[03:39:06.400 --> 03:39:11.200]  ejection seat will kill the backseater, so the backseater has to go out first.
[03:39:11.200 --> 03:39:15.920]  He don't go. Nobody does, so they couldn't eject, so they had to land it.
[03:39:16.880 --> 03:39:22.480]  The backseater gets out, staggers down the wing, fell down on the wing. We
[03:39:22.480 --> 03:39:28.800]  drug him off the wing. He was soaked in sweat. The frontseater, the pilot, gets out and walks
[03:39:28.800 --> 03:39:33.840]  down the wing. Well, I'm walking along next to him. This is an F-4 Phantom. The wing
[03:39:33.840 --> 03:39:40.560]  comes about the middle of my, just below my chin, the top of the wing, so I'm kind of following him
[03:39:40.560 --> 03:39:45.280]  along the wing, and he's kind of staggering, and he turned toward me and fell forward,
[03:39:45.920 --> 03:39:52.000]  reached up and caught him by his lapels, pulled his feet off the wing and held him so his feet
[03:39:52.000 --> 03:39:58.720]  rotated so he was standing up, reached up, turned his through and lifted the visor on that helmet,
[03:39:58.720 --> 03:40:05.760]  and there were those steel gray eyes. I hadn't seen him since I was in Florida, so now I'm in Thailand.
[03:40:05.760 --> 03:40:09.680]  He looked out at me and said, why, Airman Kelton,
[03:40:10.800 --> 03:40:14.560]  you seem to make a habit pulling pilots out of a spot.
[03:40:16.880 --> 03:40:20.560]  He knew about that. He's the one that put the case of beer down there,
[03:40:21.360 --> 03:40:28.480]  not the Marine. That was the only, about the only good thing that happened to me, combat.
[03:40:30.480 --> 03:40:34.800]  All the rest of it is terrible. I don't talk about it. I have to get really,
[03:40:34.800 --> 03:40:39.440]  really drunk to talk about the rest of it. That's Randy's share fund.
[03:40:40.560 --> 03:40:45.360]  Yeah. Even then, it's not good for me to go there. I can go to the easy part,
[03:40:45.360 --> 03:40:51.360]  but not that other part. It gets ugly from there. Hang on. We need to go to your question when we
[03:40:51.360 --> 03:40:56.800]  get back. No more war stories. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, WheelRaw Radio. We'll be right back.
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[03:43:25.600 --> 03:43:29.680]  Okay, we are back. Randy Camp, Brett Fountain,
[03:43:29.680 --> 03:43:35.520]  Wheel of Law Radio and we're talking to Roger in Wisconsin. Okay, Roger, what do you have for us?
[03:43:36.880 --> 03:43:43.360]  Well, yeah, when I was the epitome of ignorance is bliss, you know, during that time,
[03:43:44.320 --> 03:43:50.640]  the Carter administration and I think I've mentioned this story before in the show,
[03:43:50.640 --> 03:43:56.240]  but I forgot the president was coming in. I had a presidential clearance with age,
[03:43:57.360 --> 03:44:04.560]  flight line, you know, and my master staff sergeant, Jerry O'Rourke, God bless you,
[03:44:04.560 --> 03:44:11.840]  and Mike Hymas, corporal. Okay, wait a minute, was Nixon the president then?
[03:44:13.120 --> 03:44:17.040]  President Jimmy Carter. Oh, okay, you're later than me. Okay.
[03:44:18.000 --> 03:44:25.200]  Yeah, and I had like a severe hangover probably. I'm in a
[03:44:26.480 --> 03:44:30.560]  quadripenia shirt with the radiation symbol on it, you know,
[03:44:33.680 --> 03:44:38.000]  like a black piece. Oh, yeah, he did tell me about this.
[03:44:39.040 --> 03:44:45.520]  Yeah, and I totally forgot he was coming in and master staff sergeant,
[03:44:45.520 --> 03:44:51.200]  Jerry O'Rourke and Hymas were laughing and saying, oh, this is going to be good. And they go,
[03:44:51.200 --> 03:44:58.160]  okay, Roger, take this generator and compress the high packs, you know, both high packs,
[03:44:58.160 --> 03:45:03.040]  out to hard stand, whatever, you know. So I do, and it was like a ghost town out there.
[03:45:04.400 --> 03:45:09.600]  But I seen all these jumbos take, it was like a Twilight Zone episode where the guy goes to
[03:45:09.600 --> 03:45:17.760]  that town and nobody's there, you know. And so I see this jumbo come in to land and then he's
[03:45:17.760 --> 03:45:23.600]  taxing over. And then he takes a left turn or something, and I see the presidential symbol.
[03:45:23.600 --> 03:45:32.640]  I'm like, oh my God. So Roger Dummy's out there. Yeah, yeah, it was one of them days. And so he
[03:45:32.720 --> 03:45:40.800]  gets up there and, you know, anybody could shake the president's hand, but to be in close
[03:45:40.800 --> 03:45:46.800]  proximity of Air Force One, now that's where the security clearance comes in, you know. And,
[03:45:47.920 --> 03:45:53.760]  well, anybody without him, you know, on the watch list or something. But so anyways,
[03:45:53.760 --> 03:46:00.240]  when Jimmy came to me to go to shake my hand, I just froze. And the only thing I could do is like
[03:46:00.240 --> 03:46:08.400]  salute, you know, and I was out of, you know. And anyways, he was so intelligent. He, within a
[03:46:08.400 --> 03:46:13.200]  fraction of a second, he knew why, because I had the Army sniper units, you know, using my dumb
[03:46:13.200 --> 03:46:18.080]  brain as for targeting. They were on the hangar roofs. I didn't even know they were up there
[03:46:18.720 --> 03:46:24.560]  until after, you know, the whole event. But they had checkpoints with the news media and everybody
[03:46:24.560 --> 03:46:30.640]  and allow the public to come in, you know, at different points. And it was just,
[03:46:31.840 --> 03:46:38.800]  throughout my whole life, I figured, okay, the president is just one person. And then, you know,
[03:46:38.800 --> 03:46:47.360]  I co-related to Air Force One being we the people, you know. And it's more or less like,
[03:46:49.280 --> 03:46:53.520]  I came up with the idea, you know, being a mechanic, you know, you fix things or come up
[03:46:53.520 --> 03:47:01.360]  with ideas. And one of them was to form a new Continental Congress, remove all politicians and
[03:47:01.360 --> 03:47:07.200]  replace with a computer software program equivalent to what American Idol had, where millions of
[03:47:07.200 --> 03:47:15.360]  people all called in and voted for their favorite singer or dancer. And, you know, you get vetted
[03:47:15.360 --> 03:47:21.520]  people, you know. And in order to solve these problems, I mean, we'd probably pay off the
[03:47:21.520 --> 03:47:31.840]  national debt in a week. Yeah. I've got one presidential story. I never saw Dixon,
[03:47:31.840 --> 03:47:38.080]  but he had a White House in Bimini. I was stationed in the south of Miami. And I'm flying
[03:47:39.600 --> 03:47:48.560]  a Cessna 150 across Biscayne Bay, from Florida over to Biscayne Bay. I knew he had a place down
[03:47:48.560 --> 03:47:57.760]  there on Miami Beach, but I wouldn't think anything about it. I'm at 800 feet over Biscayne Bay,
[03:47:57.760 --> 03:48:04.640]  just tootling along, and I hear, you, you and the aircraft. Somebody's hollering at me,
[03:48:04.640 --> 03:48:13.040]  and I'm 800 feet in the air. And a Huey rose up on each side of me. He gave me 116, so I turned to
[03:48:13.040 --> 03:48:21.200]  116. He said, you are approaching restricted airspace. You are to change directions immediately.
[03:48:22.000 --> 03:48:28.000]  I gave him a thumbs up, shoved the nose down. I pushed that thing down as hard as I could,
[03:48:28.000 --> 03:48:35.120]  and these two choppers dove down with me. I got up as much airspeed as I could and hauled back on it,
[03:48:35.120 --> 03:48:39.920]  jerked it straight up on his tail. These two choppers come right up with me. They knew exactly
[03:48:39.920 --> 03:48:44.240]  what I was doing. I pulled that thing back. I got full power straight up.
[03:48:44.800 --> 03:48:48.960]  It starts to sputter, and just as it starts to fall off the wing,
[03:48:48.960 --> 03:48:55.840]  I hit the rudder and did a hammerhead stall. It just flipped over. So I'm going in,
[03:48:56.480 --> 03:49:02.960]  I pull straight up, and then when I turn over, when I come out, I'll be in the opposite direction.
[03:49:02.960 --> 03:49:07.120]  That's a maneuver in case you run into a blind canyon or something.
[03:49:07.840 --> 03:49:12.160]  When I hit the rudder and that airplane rotated over the wing,
[03:49:12.160 --> 03:49:17.760]  these two helicopters crossed above me. When I come out, they were right next to me.
[03:49:19.280 --> 03:49:22.560]  This pilot looked over at me like, chomp.
[03:49:24.560 --> 03:49:30.720]  I thought, these guys had my number. They were not impressed.
[03:49:32.800 --> 03:49:35.120]  Here I thought I was going to put on a show for them.
[03:49:37.200 --> 03:49:40.400]  That's dangerous, though, isn't it? They'd blow you out of the sky.
[03:49:43.680 --> 03:49:47.280]  They told me to change directions, and I did. When I shoved the nose down,
[03:49:48.400 --> 03:49:54.640]  they knew exactly what I was going to do. They were ready for it. At Homestead,
[03:49:55.680 --> 03:50:01.440]  I walked out on the base one day. I'm a weapons specialist, and I see what looks like an RB-66
[03:50:02.000 --> 03:50:08.560]  sitting out all by itself. I'm walking past it, and I see what looks like a red light up on the con.
[03:50:10.000 --> 03:50:13.680]  I thought, this guy, this thing's not hooked up. There shouldn't be any lights on.
[03:50:13.680 --> 03:50:17.360]  So I went over and pushed the button, the ladder come down. I climbed up the ladder and looked at
[03:50:17.360 --> 03:50:26.480]  it. It was an iridescent sickle and hammer. I'm looking at that sickle and hammer thinking,
[03:50:27.040 --> 03:50:34.400]  what the heck? This is 1969, and a crew chief walked up behind me and turned back,
[03:50:35.120 --> 03:50:38.240]  and he said, yes, Airman, it's a sickle and hammer.
[03:50:39.360 --> 03:50:43.760]  I said, what is this? He said, what do you think it is? So it looks like an RB-66.
[03:50:44.320 --> 03:50:52.080]  He said, no, Airman, that's a MiG-17, a Cuban pilot. He's training other pilots.
[03:50:52.080 --> 03:50:58.000]  They're in the south of Key West, Florida, and they're doing practice bombing runs.
[03:50:58.000 --> 03:51:05.680]  That's where you dive in with full load aboard, full power and afterburner. You dive as fast as
[03:51:05.680 --> 03:51:10.400]  you can, pickle your bombs away, and then get the heck out of there. You want enough airspeed so
[03:51:10.400 --> 03:51:16.640]  they can't hit you. So he has all these guys do it, and he's going to show them how. He dives in,
[03:51:17.600 --> 03:51:23.680]  pickles his bombs away, levels out 50 feet off the water, zip, he's gone.
[03:51:24.560 --> 03:51:32.560]  He ran up. Nixon had just pulled down all the AWACS that he had had controlling the Florida
[03:51:32.560 --> 03:51:38.640]  shirts, and this guy knew it, so they couldn't see him from above. He went 50 feet off of
[03:51:39.600 --> 03:51:46.240]  Key West Air Naval Station, zipped right up the keys, and a guy from my duty section walked out
[03:51:46.240 --> 03:51:50.720]  of a beer joint in Homestead, Florida, and he looks up, and coming down US-1,
[03:51:51.360 --> 03:51:57.280]  this jet airplane 50 feet off the ground, zip. He calls the tower, and he said, hey guys,
[03:51:57.280 --> 03:52:03.040]  I just walked out of this beer joint, and a MiG-17 went over me at 50 feet.
[03:52:03.760 --> 03:52:11.760]  They said, Sarge, go have another beer. He contacted New Tamiami Airport for the May Day,
[03:52:11.840 --> 03:52:20.400]  and told him who he was. He was defecting, low on fuel. They gave him a DF steer into Homestead
[03:52:20.400 --> 03:52:29.120]  Air Base. Homestead Air Base didn't know he was there until he's lined up on the runway 50 feet
[03:52:29.120 --> 03:52:34.800]  off the ground. Somebody in the alert squadron looked up and saw this MiG-17, hit the panic
[03:52:34.800 --> 03:52:43.840]  button. Have you ever seen them do a cart start? Oh, it's incredible. These guys run out there,
[03:52:43.840 --> 03:52:50.880]  and they jump in these F-4s, and the canopy closes. They pull all the equipment away,
[03:52:50.880 --> 03:52:56.240]  and then they exploded. Kaboom, boom, boom, boom. All of them disappeared in smoke,
[03:52:56.960 --> 03:53:02.800]  and you hear the engine whining. And then zip, all the smoke went down the intake,
[03:53:02.800 --> 03:53:07.920]  poof, they were gone. The jet engine comes up hot. They got to the end of the one way,
[03:53:07.920 --> 03:53:12.720]  just as this guy sat down in front of him. He could have took out the whole base.
[03:53:13.600 --> 03:53:19.360]  A shotgun blast to start up the— Yeah, it's a big—it's a container about
[03:53:20.880 --> 03:53:28.320]  six inches in diameter and about eight inches long. It's a gas charge. It explodes.
[03:53:28.480 --> 03:53:33.840]  Okay. Builds pressure in the compressor and spins the compressor. That was cool to watch.
[03:53:35.680 --> 03:53:42.320]  Anyway, he pulls down. He gets to the end of the one way, and the tower sent a fuel truck down
[03:53:42.320 --> 03:53:50.240]  to fuel him because he was low on fuel. He goes down the end of the runway, and the fuel truck
[03:53:50.240 --> 03:53:56.640]  driver calls the tower and said, where's that F-86 I'm supposed to refuel? They said it's right in
[03:53:56.640 --> 03:54:03.840]  front of you. He said, no, that's not an F-86. That's a MiG-17. That's when everything went
[03:54:03.840 --> 03:54:10.560]  nuts. And Nixon was in Florida, and Air Force One was on the ramp. This pilot sees it. He pulls
[03:54:10.560 --> 03:54:16.400]  around the fuel truck. He's heading right for US-1, and the fuel truck went and cut him off.
[03:54:19.200 --> 03:54:23.680]  They put—they made him fly it back with American flags on the bottom of it. They did give it back
[03:54:23.680 --> 03:54:30.480]  to him. It was August of 1968.
[03:54:32.240 --> 03:54:40.640]  Yeah. But speaking of Homestead, my best friend, he was in the Army, but he was stationed at
[03:54:40.640 --> 03:54:49.760]  Homestead, and they put him in one of those—it's a nuclear attack site too, right? And they had him
[03:54:49.760 --> 03:54:57.520]  in those small little armored shacks, you know, and they'd give him a couple of grenades and a
[03:54:57.520 --> 03:55:07.120]  .45. And he sent home pictures at the time, which were not really too good to be released,
[03:55:07.120 --> 03:55:16.560]  but they had fun and get drunk and get naked and raise those missiles, and they'd be sitting on
[03:55:16.560 --> 03:55:21.120]  top of them and raise them up and take pictures and send them back to the—you know. But that
[03:55:21.120 --> 03:55:31.280]  explains a lot of UFO sighting. Yeah, I was checked out on nukes. Anyway, thank you all for listening.
[03:55:31.280 --> 03:55:40.000]  We'll be back next week with our regular shows. So thank you all for listening, and good night.
[03:55:40.000 --> 03:55:49.440]  Good night. Thank you.