ROL_2025-02-07_16k.timecode

[00:00.000 --> 00:30.000]  Bad Boys, Bad Boys
[00:56.660 --> 00:59.660]  What you gonna do when they come for you?
[00:59.660 --> 01:02.660]  You chuck it on that one, you chuck it on this one
[01:02.660 --> 01:04.660]  You chuck it on your mother and you chuck it on your father
[01:04.660 --> 01:07.660]  You chuck it on your brother and you chuck it on your sister
[01:07.660 --> 01:10.660]  You chuck it on that one and you chuck it on me
[01:10.660 --> 01:13.660]  Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do?
[01:13.660 --> 01:15.660]  What you gonna do when they come for you?
[01:32.660 --> 01:35.660]  Nobody now give you no break
[01:35.660 --> 01:37.660]  Police now give you no break
[01:37.660 --> 01:39.660]  That old soldier man a give you no break
[01:39.660 --> 01:43.660]  Not even your agent a give you no breaks
[01:43.660 --> 01:46.660]  Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do?
[01:46.660 --> 01:49.660]  What you gonna do when they come for you?
[01:49.660 --> 01:52.660]  Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do?
[01:52.660 --> 01:54.660]  Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[01:54.660 --> 01:56.660]  Bad boys, bad boys
[01:56.660 --> 01:58.660]  Whatcha gonna do?
[01:58.660 --> 02:00.660]  Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[02:00.660 --> 02:02.660]  Bad boys, bad boys
[02:02.660 --> 02:04.660]  Whatcha gonna do?
[02:04.660 --> 02:06.660]  Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[02:06.660 --> 02:08.660]  Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[02:08.660 --> 02:10.660]  Okay, howdy, howdy
[02:10.660 --> 02:12.660]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain,
[02:12.660 --> 02:14.660]  Rule of Law Radio
[02:14.660 --> 02:16.660]  Brett's having a little bit
[02:16.660 --> 02:18.660]  of a technical issue getting in
[02:18.660 --> 02:20.660]  he should be in any moment
[02:20.660 --> 02:22.660]  this is our Friday
[02:22.660 --> 02:24.660]  the 7th day of January
[02:24.660 --> 02:26.660]  the 7th day of January
[02:26.660 --> 02:28.660]  2025
[02:28.660 --> 02:30.660]  I am gonna turn the phone lines on
[02:30.660 --> 02:32.660]  I am gonna turn the phone lines on
[02:32.660 --> 02:34.660]  I do have some stuff going on
[02:34.660 --> 02:36.660]  I do have some stuff going on
[02:36.660 --> 02:38.660]  I generally talk about
[02:38.660 --> 02:40.660]  I generally talk about
[02:40.660 --> 02:42.660]  the same thing Thursday and Friday because
[02:42.660 --> 02:44.660]  we get different people Thursdays and Fridays
[02:44.660 --> 02:46.660]  I wanna make sure everybody gets this one
[02:46.660 --> 02:48.660]  I wanna make sure everybody gets this one
[02:48.660 --> 02:52.660]  in 30 years
[02:52.660 --> 02:54.660]  trying to first
[02:54.660 --> 02:56.660]  figure this out
[02:56.660 --> 02:58.660]  and then figure out how to do it
[02:58.660 --> 03:00.660]  to get it to work
[03:00.660 --> 03:02.660]  and
[03:02.660 --> 03:04.660]  I guess maybe
[03:04.660 --> 03:06.660]  the spirits
[03:06.660 --> 03:08.660]  have been
[03:08.660 --> 03:10.660]  waiting until Trump got in
[03:10.660 --> 03:12.660]  office
[03:12.660 --> 03:14.660]  because
[03:14.660 --> 03:16.660]  his
[03:16.660 --> 03:18.660]  pressure on the system
[03:18.660 --> 03:20.660]  is beginning
[03:20.660 --> 03:22.660]  to open doors
[03:22.660 --> 03:24.660]  I have opportunities
[03:24.660 --> 03:26.660]  and things I can do
[03:26.660 --> 03:28.660]  that I couldn't do before because he's
[03:28.660 --> 03:30.660]  there
[03:30.660 --> 03:32.660]  and I have a plan
[03:32.660 --> 03:34.660]  and I'm hoping I can encourage
[03:34.660 --> 03:36.660]  some other folks
[03:36.660 --> 03:38.660]  to follow this same plan
[03:38.660 --> 03:40.660]  to follow this same plan
[03:40.660 --> 03:42.660]  it's a little bit complicated because there
[03:42.660 --> 03:44.660]  are two separate parts to it
[03:44.660 --> 03:46.660]  I was talking to my
[03:46.660 --> 03:48.660]  local county judge
[03:48.660 --> 03:50.660]  with whom I have a very good relationship
[03:50.660 --> 03:52.660]  and he trusts me
[03:52.660 --> 03:54.660]  and he actually agrees with what I'm doing
[03:54.660 --> 03:56.660]  but I
[03:56.660 --> 03:58.660]  confused him because I have two different
[03:58.660 --> 04:00.660]  pieces he's trying to think of this
[04:00.660 --> 04:02.660]  as just one thing
[04:02.660 --> 04:04.660]  and if I confused
[04:04.660 --> 04:06.660]  him it's a good chance I've confused
[04:06.660 --> 04:08.660]  a lot of the listeners
[04:08.660 --> 04:10.660]  my first
[04:10.660 --> 04:12.660]  plan is
[04:12.660 --> 04:14.660]  to get the police
[04:14.660 --> 04:16.660]  when they arrest someone
[04:16.660 --> 04:18.660]  to take them
[04:18.660 --> 04:20.660]  either take them directly
[04:20.660 --> 04:22.660]  to a magistrate
[04:22.660 --> 04:24.660]  or take out
[04:24.660 --> 04:26.660]  their cell phone and call a magistrate
[04:28.660 --> 04:30.660]  and have a magistrate
[04:30.660 --> 04:32.660]  do an
[04:32.660 --> 04:34.660]  examining trial or
[04:34.660 --> 04:36.660]  I would even settle for
[04:36.660 --> 04:38.660]  a magistration
[04:38.660 --> 04:40.660]  the
[04:40.660 --> 04:42.660]  the outfit
[04:42.660 --> 04:44.660]  that trains
[04:44.660 --> 04:46.660]  magistrates
[04:46.660 --> 04:48.660]  see Texas Justice
[04:48.660 --> 04:50.660]  Court Training Center
[04:52.660 --> 04:54.660]  they have a hundred page
[04:54.660 --> 04:56.660]  booklet
[04:56.660 --> 04:58.660]  that addresses
[04:58.660 --> 05:00.660]  magistration
[05:00.660 --> 05:02.660]  one's
[05:02.660 --> 05:04.660]  title one
[05:04.660 --> 05:06.660]  article in
[05:06.660 --> 05:08.660]  chapter 15
[05:08.660 --> 05:10.660]  article 15.17
[05:10.660 --> 05:12.660]  and in my opinion
[05:12.660 --> 05:14.660]  the most piece of crap
[05:14.660 --> 05:16.660]  article in the whole
[05:16.660 --> 05:18.660]  code
[05:18.660 --> 05:20.660]  but they want to use
[05:20.660 --> 05:22.660]  that they want to call what they do
[05:22.660 --> 05:24.660]  a magistration
[05:24.660 --> 05:26.660]  call it whatever you want to
[05:26.660 --> 05:28.660]  what I'm
[05:28.660 --> 05:30.660]  looking at as
[05:30.660 --> 05:32.660]  an initial
[05:32.660 --> 05:34.660]  and primary solution
[05:34.660 --> 05:36.660]  to this division between
[05:36.660 --> 05:38.660]  the public and the police
[05:38.660 --> 05:40.660]  is
[05:40.660 --> 05:42.660]  that the policeman
[05:42.660 --> 05:44.660]  must explain himself
[05:44.660 --> 05:46.660]  for what he does
[05:46.660 --> 05:48.660]  immediately
[05:48.660 --> 05:50.660]  not tomorrow morning
[05:50.660 --> 05:52.660]  or next week
[05:52.660 --> 05:54.660]  or two months from now
[05:54.660 --> 05:56.660]  but immediately
[05:56.660 --> 05:58.660]  he has to explain himself
[05:58.660 --> 06:00.660]  to a magistrate
[06:00.660 --> 06:02.660]  someone who's not
[06:02.660 --> 06:04.660]  a police officer
[06:04.660 --> 06:06.660]  someone who's a judicial officer
[06:08.660 --> 06:10.660]  now if we get that done
[06:10.660 --> 06:12.660]  I can assure you
[06:12.660 --> 06:14.660]  that
[06:14.660 --> 06:16.660]  probably at least 96%
[06:16.660 --> 06:18.660]  if not 99%
[06:18.660 --> 06:20.660]  of the times
[06:20.660 --> 06:22.660]  when a policeman calls
[06:22.660 --> 06:24.660]  a magistrate
[06:24.660 --> 06:26.660]  and the magistrate
[06:26.660 --> 06:28.660]  holds a
[06:28.660 --> 06:30.660]  magistration
[06:30.660 --> 06:32.660]  and listens and makes
[06:32.660 --> 06:34.660]  a determination of probable cause
[06:34.660 --> 06:36.660]  he will almost always
[06:36.660 --> 06:38.660]  agree with
[06:38.660 --> 06:40.660]  the policeman tell him to take him to jail
[06:40.660 --> 06:42.660]  or set a bail
[06:42.660 --> 06:44.660]  or release him on their own recognizance
[06:44.660 --> 06:46.660]  it doesn't matter
[06:46.660 --> 06:48.660]  what the magistrate does
[06:48.660 --> 06:50.660]  the key
[06:50.660 --> 06:52.660]  to fixing this rift
[06:52.660 --> 06:54.660]  between the public
[06:54.660 --> 06:56.660]  and the police
[06:56.660 --> 06:58.660]  is that the policeman
[06:58.660 --> 07:00.660]  has someone
[07:00.660 --> 07:02.660]  someone else
[07:02.660 --> 07:04.660]  listen to what he's
[07:04.660 --> 07:06.660]  claiming immediately
[07:08.660 --> 07:10.660]  I was arrested in the district
[07:10.660 --> 07:12.660]  attorney's office
[07:12.660 --> 07:14.660]  having a private conversation with the
[07:14.660 --> 07:16.660]  district attorney
[07:16.660 --> 07:18.660]  I was arrested by a bailiff
[07:18.660 --> 07:20.660]  for the specific purpose
[07:20.660 --> 07:22.660]  of preventing me from
[07:22.660 --> 07:24.660]  giving a criminal complaint
[07:24.660 --> 07:26.660]  to the district judge
[07:26.660 --> 07:28.660]  against the county judge
[07:30.660 --> 07:32.660]  now why on earth would he think
[07:32.660 --> 07:34.660]  he could do that
[07:34.660 --> 07:36.660]  and get by with it?
[07:36.660 --> 07:38.660]  well he did
[07:40.660 --> 07:42.660]  took me straight to jail
[07:42.660 --> 07:44.660]  I spent the night in jail
[07:44.660 --> 07:46.660]  they gave me a blanket and it had a spider in it
[07:46.660 --> 07:48.660]  hit me three times
[07:48.660 --> 07:50.660]  on the head I thought I was going to die from that
[07:50.660 --> 07:52.660]  thing
[07:52.660 --> 07:54.660]  it was six weeks
[07:54.660 --> 07:56.660]  before this officer filed a report
[07:56.660 --> 07:58.660]  with
[07:58.660 --> 08:00.660]  the courts
[08:00.660 --> 08:02.660]  nobody
[08:02.660 --> 08:04.660]  ever heard a word
[08:04.660 --> 08:06.660]  he said for six
[08:06.660 --> 08:08.660]  weeks
[08:08.660 --> 08:10.660]  give him time to make up
[08:10.660 --> 08:12.660]  a report any way he wanted
[08:12.660 --> 08:14.660]  it to
[08:14.660 --> 08:16.660]  that's the way things are
[08:16.660 --> 08:18.660]  now
[08:18.660 --> 08:20.660]  a policeman can arrest you and
[08:20.660 --> 08:22.660]  accuse you of anything
[08:22.660 --> 08:24.660]  he wants to
[08:24.660 --> 08:26.660]  it makes no difference how outrageous
[08:26.660 --> 08:28.660]  or ridiculous it is
[08:28.660 --> 08:30.660]  nobody
[08:30.660 --> 08:32.660]  cares
[08:32.660 --> 08:34.660]  prosecutor is going to get the complaint
[08:34.660 --> 08:36.660]  and he's going to begin
[08:36.660 --> 08:38.660]  to pressure you to take a deal
[08:38.660 --> 08:40.660]  does not care
[08:40.660 --> 08:42.660]  you're guilty or innocent
[08:44.660 --> 08:46.660]  how does that happen?
[08:46.660 --> 08:48.660]  it happens
[08:48.660 --> 08:50.660]  because the officer doesn't
[08:50.660 --> 08:52.660]  have to do what the
[08:52.660 --> 08:54.660]  law says I just filed a
[08:54.660 --> 08:56.660]  criminal complaint against my new
[08:56.660 --> 08:58.660]  sheriff with the district judge
[08:58.660 --> 09:00.660]  and what my
[09:00.660 --> 09:02.660]  complaint said was
[09:02.660 --> 09:04.660]  that the sheriff has
[09:04.660 --> 09:06.660]  conspired with his officers
[09:06.660 --> 09:08.660]  to arrest people
[09:08.660 --> 09:10.660]  and take them to jail
[09:10.660 --> 09:12.660]  I would ask
[09:12.660 --> 09:14.660]  any of you
[09:14.660 --> 09:16.660]  to see if you can find
[09:16.660 --> 09:18.660]  and tell me where
[09:18.660 --> 09:20.660]  a police
[09:20.660 --> 09:22.660]  officer in the
[09:22.660 --> 09:24.660]  United States
[09:24.660 --> 09:26.660]  is authorized
[09:26.660 --> 09:28.660]  to arrest someone
[09:28.660 --> 09:30.660]  and take them to jail
[09:32.660 --> 09:34.660]  it's not
[09:34.660 --> 09:36.660]  in any
[09:36.660 --> 09:38.660]  code
[09:38.660 --> 09:40.660]  policemen
[09:40.660 --> 09:42.660]  are allowed to arrest someone
[09:42.660 --> 09:44.660]  for one
[09:44.660 --> 09:46.660]  reason and one reason
[09:46.660 --> 09:48.660]  only
[09:48.660 --> 09:50.660]  and that is to take
[09:50.660 --> 09:52.660]  them directly
[09:52.660 --> 09:54.660]  to the nearest magistrate
[09:54.660 --> 09:56.660]  and secure
[09:56.660 --> 09:58.660]  a probable cause
[09:58.660 --> 10:00.660]  determination
[10:00.660 --> 10:02.660]  so that the person can be held
[10:02.660 --> 10:04.660]  to stand and answer for
[10:04.660 --> 10:06.660]  the alleged crime
[10:06.660 --> 10:08.660]  otherwise it would be an order of commitment
[10:08.660 --> 10:10.660]  a judicial order of commitment
[10:10.660 --> 10:12.660]  to commit the person to jail
[10:12.660 --> 10:14.660]  that's totally different
[10:16.660 --> 10:18.660]  and why I say
[10:18.660 --> 10:20.660]  that is so important
[10:20.660 --> 10:22.660]  who was that strange
[10:22.660 --> 10:24.660]  person that just
[10:24.660 --> 10:26.660]  spoke out of the ether
[10:28.660 --> 10:30.660]  evening Brett
[10:30.660 --> 10:32.660]  but if the policeman
[10:32.660 --> 10:34.660]  knows
[10:34.660 --> 10:36.660]  that if he arrests you for
[10:36.660 --> 10:38.660]  any reason
[10:38.660 --> 10:40.660]  he is going to have to pick up his
[10:40.660 --> 10:42.660]  cell phone
[10:42.660 --> 10:44.660]  in lieu of driving directly to
[10:44.660 --> 10:46.660]  the nearest magistrate and that's what
[10:46.660 --> 10:48.660]  the codes in the case law says
[10:50.660 --> 10:52.660]  but it's okay with me
[10:52.660 --> 10:54.660]  and with what I'm after and it's
[10:54.660 --> 10:56.660]  consistent with the existing law
[10:56.660 --> 10:58.660]  for him to pick up his cell phone call a magistrate
[11:00.660 --> 11:02.660]  and
[11:02.660 --> 11:04.660]  technically
[11:04.660 --> 11:06.660]  what the law commands
[11:06.660 --> 11:08.660]  is that the accused be given
[11:08.660 --> 11:10.660]  an opportunity to make a
[11:10.660 --> 11:12.660]  statement before the officer
[11:12.660 --> 11:14.660]  before any evidence
[11:14.660 --> 11:16.660]  is entered against him
[11:16.660 --> 11:18.660]  but that's not even as important
[11:18.660 --> 11:20.660]  as the fact
[11:20.660 --> 11:22.660]  that the officer
[11:22.660 --> 11:24.660]  has to call the magistrate
[11:26.660 --> 11:28.660]  and explain to the magistrate
[11:28.660 --> 11:30.660]  why he arrested this person
[11:30.660 --> 11:32.660]  and the magistrate determines
[11:32.660 --> 11:34.660]  whether you can take him to jail or not
[11:36.660 --> 11:38.660]  consider the consequences
[11:38.660 --> 11:40.660]  you're a policeman on the street
[11:40.660 --> 11:42.660]  and you pull me over
[11:44.660 --> 11:46.660]  and I am my usual obnoxious
[11:46.660 --> 11:48.660]  and demanding self
[11:50.660 --> 11:52.660]  and you decide to issue
[11:52.660 --> 11:54.660]  an attitude
[11:54.660 --> 11:56.660]  adjustment
[11:56.660 --> 11:58.660]  if you know
[11:58.660 --> 12:00.660]  that you're going to have to explain
[12:00.660 --> 12:02.660]  yourself to a magistrate
[12:02.660 --> 12:04.660]  right now
[12:04.660 --> 12:06.660]  your passions
[12:06.660 --> 12:08.660]  will be seriously
[12:08.660 --> 12:10.660]  curbed
[12:10.660 --> 12:12.660]  it is my belief
[12:12.660 --> 12:14.660]  in my position
[12:14.660 --> 12:16.660]  that if we can get
[12:16.660 --> 12:18.660]  that one thing
[12:18.660 --> 12:20.660]  implemented
[12:20.660 --> 12:22.660]  this rift between
[12:22.660 --> 12:24.660]  the public and the police
[12:24.660 --> 12:26.660]  will simply
[12:26.660 --> 12:28.660]  go away
[12:30.660 --> 12:32.660]  they stopped doing this about 50 years
[12:32.660 --> 12:34.660]  ago
[12:34.660 --> 12:36.660]  I remember
[12:36.660 --> 12:38.660]  early on
[12:38.660 --> 12:40.660]  50 years ago I was 25
[12:42.660 --> 12:44.660]  but I grew up in Chicago
[12:44.660 --> 12:46.660]  and the police there were always
[12:46.660 --> 12:48.660]  out of control because Chicago at the time
[12:48.660 --> 12:50.660]  is one of the most corrupt
[12:50.660 --> 12:52.660]  places on the planet
[12:52.660 --> 12:54.660]  it was run by Mayor Daley
[12:54.660 --> 12:56.660]  you may have heard of Mayor Daley
[12:56.660 --> 12:58.660]  in the history books
[12:58.660 --> 13:00.660]  that John Kennedy
[13:00.660 --> 13:02.660]  went to
[13:02.660 --> 13:04.660]  Mayor Daley to get permission
[13:04.660 --> 13:06.660]  to run for president that's how powerful he was
[13:08.660 --> 13:10.660]  well he ran Chicago and Chicago
[13:10.660 --> 13:12.660]  was supremely corrupt
[13:12.660 --> 13:14.660]  but when I went to Tennessee and other
[13:14.660 --> 13:16.660]  places it wasn't like that
[13:18.660 --> 13:20.660]  the police were
[13:20.660 --> 13:22.660]  did not come across as your enemy
[13:22.660 --> 13:24.660]  we weren't afraid of them
[13:26.660 --> 13:28.660]  they didn't do all this
[13:28.660 --> 13:30.660]  crazy crap that they're doing now
[13:30.660 --> 13:32.660]  in the late
[13:32.660 --> 13:34.660]  in the early 70s
[13:34.660 --> 13:36.660]  they stopped taking people to magistrates
[13:36.660 --> 13:38.660]  and this problem began and it's been
[13:38.660 --> 13:40.660]  accruing and getting worse ever since
[13:40.660 --> 13:42.660]  we are close to the point of
[13:42.660 --> 13:44.660]  fixing it
[13:44.660 --> 13:46.660]  if we can get
[13:46.660 --> 13:48.660]  the policeman to have to explain
[13:48.660 --> 13:50.660]  to a magistrate immediately
[13:50.660 --> 13:52.660]  this problem
[13:52.660 --> 13:54.660]  this primary problem
[13:54.660 --> 13:56.660]  will go away there are others
[13:56.660 --> 13:58.660]  this is the first one we'll be right back
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[16:22.660 --> 17:18.660]  music
[17:18.660 --> 17:22.660]  from the man that came all the way from gallery
[17:22.660 --> 17:25.660]  I was looking for a safe and warm place to be
[17:25.660 --> 17:28.660]  But I don't have a hard to be behind
[17:28.660 --> 17:30.660]  And I was talking about a plan I have
[17:30.660 --> 17:33.660]  So I sued all the highest judges in Texas
[17:33.660 --> 17:39.660]  And while I was suing them, Brett was in there beating them up
[17:39.660 --> 17:45.660]  They threw out my suit with prejudice claiming it was frivolous
[17:45.660 --> 17:51.660]  But I'm thinking a lot of it had to do with the pressure Brett was putting on this
[17:51.660 --> 17:59.660]  Were you after the, let's see, the Texas Justice Court training?
[17:59.660 --> 18:01.660]  Texas Justice Court Training Center
[18:01.660 --> 18:02.660]  Good, that's the one
[18:02.660 --> 18:06.660]  I'm not after them in terms of suing them, at least not yet
[18:06.660 --> 18:12.660]  I'm at the point, I'm pushing their buttons because I'm asking for records, public records
[18:12.660 --> 18:17.660]  And I'm wanting open, I'm talking about Open Meetings Act
[18:17.660 --> 18:22.660]  And I'm trying to invite myself to all their meetings where they're planning for this training
[18:22.660 --> 18:26.660]  And they're just, they're in a tizzy about that
[18:26.660 --> 18:31.660]  Yes, what I'm seeing here is they got pressure on them
[18:31.660 --> 18:38.660]  Page 70 of their book, the Justice, what do they call it?
[18:38.660 --> 18:42.660]  This is a desk book, I see the title
[18:42.660 --> 18:47.660]  Justice Training Center, transportation, justice training
[18:47.660 --> 18:48.660]  They don't even say what it is
[18:48.660 --> 18:51.660]  Yeah, they have a Magistration Desk Book, they got several desk books
[18:51.660 --> 18:57.660]  I'm looking at the Magistration Desk Book, it doesn't say what it is on the front
[18:57.660 --> 19:00.660]  Anyway, that's what it was when I downloaded it
[19:00.660 --> 19:05.660]  On page 70, they talk about examining trials
[19:05.660 --> 19:11.660]  Through the whole book, everything is about 1517
[19:11.660 --> 19:22.660]  But on page 70, under Examining Trials, there it talks about Chapter 16
[19:22.660 --> 19:28.660]  So at least they acknowledge that it exists, but what they're trying to say is
[19:28.660 --> 19:37.660]  Is that they state specifically that you don't have to do an examining trial in a misdemeanor
[19:37.660 --> 19:40.660]  That's just absolutely wrong
[19:40.660 --> 19:46.660]  Yeah, and most interpret that to even mean there's no such thing
[19:46.660 --> 19:51.660]  Not only do you not have to do it, but it doesn't even exist for a misdemeanor
[19:51.660 --> 19:56.660]  Well, they say they don't have to
[19:56.660 --> 20:03.660]  Magistration, let's see, here it is
[20:03.660 --> 20:08.660]  I've had some tell me that it doesn't exist, and I've had others tell me that it only exists if you ask for it
[20:08.660 --> 20:12.660]  Like it's by request only
[20:12.660 --> 20:16.660]  And too late, you didn't request it in time, so you waived it
[20:16.660 --> 20:26.660]  Well, I can't, you know, the way I read the Constitution of Article 5, Section 17
[20:26.660 --> 20:31.660]  Specifically requires an indictment
[20:31.660 --> 20:36.660]  You can't have an indictment until someone's been arrested
[20:36.660 --> 20:43.660]  And if someone's arrested, the first thing you have to do is take them before a magistrate for an examining trial
[20:43.660 --> 20:48.660]  Well, they have a, I can't find it right now, but they have a section that says that
[20:48.660 --> 20:51.660]  Magistration, oh, here it is
[20:51.660 --> 21:00.660]  Magistration is not a technical term that is defined in the law as
[21:00.660 --> 21:03.660]  Law, it is an informed
[21:03.660 --> 21:04.660]  No kidding
[21:04.660 --> 21:08.660]  As gained widespread use in justice and municipal courts
[21:08.660 --> 21:10.660]  They made it up
[21:10.660 --> 21:15.660]  So anyway, they talk about Chapter 16, this whole book
[21:15.660 --> 21:19.660]  Is about avoiding Chapter 16
[21:19.660 --> 21:22.660]  And it took me a while to understand what's going on
[21:22.660 --> 21:28.660]  These, they're doing this, they got us on their case
[21:28.660 --> 21:38.660]  And one of the primary reasons I filed that suit was I wanted to force all these judges to read the brief
[21:38.660 --> 21:45.660]  To look at Article 5, Section 17 that requires an indictment and a misdemeanor
[21:45.660 --> 21:48.660]  But they all know it's there
[21:48.660 --> 21:55.660]  And now the heat's on these guys, but everybody's been doing things this way 50 years
[21:55.660 --> 21:59.660]  And these guys are training people how to do it
[21:59.660 --> 22:10.660]  Well, we're asking them to say the way we've been training people for the last 50 years is all wrong
[22:10.660 --> 22:15.660]  You should do it this other way
[22:15.660 --> 22:21.660]  They would have to admit that since there are no 16, 17 orders in the court record
[22:21.660 --> 22:26.660]  There's no jurisdiction for any of the cases they prosecuted
[22:26.660 --> 22:31.660]  Can't do that, so they're dancing on the head of this pen
[22:31.660 --> 22:37.660]  Trying to find a way to train people in doing things the way they've always done things
[22:37.660 --> 22:45.660]  Because that's the way they've always done things while they've got us coming in there and kicking them around
[22:45.660 --> 22:50.660]  So I'm thinking Brett and I are not enough
[22:50.660 --> 22:53.660]  We need you guys
[22:53.660 --> 23:00.660]  We need to start suing magistrates all over the state of Texas
[23:00.660 --> 23:04.660]  And I'm building the procedure right now
[23:04.660 --> 23:13.660]  I've got a template out there that you can download from josefromheldust.com slash templates
[23:13.660 --> 23:19.660]  And there's a magistrate suit in there under 15.09
[23:20.660 --> 23:23.660]  Go in, you file a complaint against another judge
[23:23.660 --> 23:28.660]  And when the magistrate refuses to issue a warrant and orders you out of the building
[23:28.660 --> 23:32.660]  Go to the next JP and sue him immediately
[23:32.660 --> 23:35.660]  And he knows you set him up
[23:35.660 --> 23:40.660]  You only sue him for 19 grand and the small claims court only costs 90 bucks
[23:40.660 --> 23:46.660]  If you're given an affidavit of inability to pay, and I've got one of those on the website as well
[23:46.660 --> 23:51.660]  Pull that down and fill in the blanks, give it to them
[23:51.660 --> 23:58.660]  The judge is going to get the county attorney or the district attorney to answer for him
[23:58.660 --> 24:09.660]  And then we've got the motion to strike the attorney's answer and motion for summary judgment
[24:09.660 --> 24:13.660]  So right on the front end we'll set them up
[24:13.660 --> 24:16.660]  We'll get them to do what we know they're going to do
[24:16.660 --> 24:20.660]  And then when they do it then we kick them for doing it
[24:20.660 --> 24:29.660]  That's when all of the high judges and Nathan Hitch, the Supreme Court Chief Justice of the Supreme
[24:29.660 --> 24:32.660]  That's when he got afraid
[24:32.660 --> 24:39.660]  And he demonstrated that fear by incredible anger
[24:39.660 --> 24:44.660]  He moved to dismiss my case because it was frivolous
[24:44.660 --> 24:47.660]  Because I filed it for practice
[24:47.660 --> 24:53.660]  And the only way he could know that was he had an email from the mayor of Boyd, Texas
[24:53.660 --> 24:57.660]  Not like 2,000 people in Boyd, Texas
[24:57.660 --> 25:01.660]  It might as well be named Podunk, Texas
[25:01.660 --> 25:06.660]  And the Chief Justice of the Supreme wound up with my email to my mayor
[25:07.660 --> 25:09.660]  Well, excuse me for just a second, Randy
[25:09.660 --> 25:14.660]  But in my mistaken I've missed one of these important affirmative defenses
[25:14.660 --> 25:21.660]  And one of them is that the plaintiff emailed that it was for practice purposes
[25:21.660 --> 25:23.660]  And so that gets him off the hook
[25:23.660 --> 25:25.660]  Absolutely
[25:25.660 --> 25:27.660]  That's this affirmative defense
[25:27.660 --> 25:32.660]  That is so well understood and accepted
[25:32.660 --> 25:39.660]  That he didn't need to include any law or any case law
[25:39.660 --> 25:43.660]  All he did was tell him what a scoundrel was
[25:43.660 --> 25:49.660]  The point of that, guys, is that was the Chief Justice of the Texas Supreme
[25:49.660 --> 25:52.660]  Who the heck am I?
[25:52.660 --> 25:57.660]  Some two-bit chump, retired
[25:57.660 --> 26:02.660]  Disgruntled vet in Redneck, Texas
[26:02.660 --> 26:05.660]  And that's the best he could come up with
[26:05.660 --> 26:07.660]  I wind his clock
[26:07.660 --> 26:10.660]  Round all their clocks
[26:10.660 --> 26:14.660]  They want to pretend like my suit was garbage
[26:14.660 --> 26:23.660]  The trial court, the magistrate judge put out a brief that was absolute trash
[26:23.660 --> 26:31.660]  The judge accepted it and the Fifth Circuit court judges accepted it
[26:31.660 --> 26:38.660]  After the Fifth Circuit judge accepted it, dismissed it with prejudice for being frivolous
[26:38.660 --> 26:46.660]  The people I sued wrote a whole book on what I complained about
[26:46.660 --> 26:49.660]  That kind of indicates it wasn't frivolous
[26:49.660 --> 26:53.660]  So when I come back, I'll tell you what I'm going to do to the Fifth Circuit judge
[26:53.660 --> 26:56.660]  They probably hadn't had this done to them before
[26:56.660 --> 26:58.660]  We'll be right back
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[30:39.660 --> 30:42.660]  Well I need a prosecutor to come and help me
[30:42.660 --> 30:45.660]  Prosecute them wicked leaders, you see
[30:45.660 --> 30:47.660]  Them murderers are liars, them tell we
[30:47.660 --> 30:50.660]  Them are liars, they tell sweet stories
[30:50.660 --> 30:52.660]  Me not believe me, say what them tell we
[30:52.660 --> 30:55.660]  3% of America vote for Bush
[30:55.660 --> 30:57.660]  So how the hell you get the presidency?
[30:57.660 --> 31:00.660]  That's why me have a warrant for you
[31:00.660 --> 31:02.660]  Everybody listen carefully
[31:02.660 --> 31:04.660]  Listen to the words of the three shoes passing
[31:04.660 --> 31:06.660]  Citizens arrest
[31:06.660 --> 31:08.660]  From this double shoe
[31:10.660 --> 31:13.660]  Okay, we are back with Randy Kelton from County LogosRadio
[31:13.660 --> 31:15.660]  I'll finish up with this segment
[31:15.660 --> 31:19.660]  Barry, hang on there, I want to get to you this time
[31:19.660 --> 31:21.660]  Okay, so
[31:21.660 --> 31:24.660]  What I've got put together
[31:24.660 --> 31:27.660]  What I'm going to do with the Fifth Circuit
[31:27.660 --> 31:32.660]  Fifth Circuit, you know, they're the next thing to the Supreme
[31:32.660 --> 31:35.660]  They're the big guys on the block
[31:35.660 --> 31:39.660]  They dismissed my case with prejudice because it was frivolous
[31:41.660 --> 31:44.660]  I'm saying that they engaged in ongoing criminal
[31:44.660 --> 31:47.660]  Conspiracy with the magistrate judge
[31:47.660 --> 31:50.660]  With the trial judge to deny
[31:50.660 --> 31:54.660]  Pro se litigants in due process
[31:54.660 --> 31:57.660]  By dismissing their cases out of hand
[31:57.660 --> 32:00.660]  In violation of Walker v. Packer
[32:00.660 --> 32:03.660]  Yeah, and in violation of the federal
[32:03.660 --> 32:06.660]  Guarantee that we have a right
[32:06.660 --> 32:09.660]  To petition our courts for redress or grievances
[32:09.660 --> 32:13.660]  Exactly, and equal protection of the laws
[32:13.660 --> 32:17.660]  Federal crimes, I'm alleging
[32:17.660 --> 32:20.660]  That they conspired one with the other
[32:20.660 --> 32:24.660]  To deny me in a right in violation
[32:24.660 --> 32:27.660]  18 U.S. Code 241
[32:27.660 --> 32:29.660]  That's a felony
[32:29.660 --> 32:32.660]  And I'm going to take complaints against the Fifth Circuit
[32:32.660 --> 32:35.660]  Now consider this, you are a U.S. attorney
[32:35.660 --> 32:38.660]  In Fort Worth, Texas
[32:38.660 --> 32:41.660]  And some jackleg, redneck
[32:41.660 --> 32:44.660]  Hillbilly comes down, jerks around
[32:44.660 --> 32:47.660]  The knuckle-draggers at the metal detector
[32:47.660 --> 32:50.660]  And tells them that I am here to give
[32:50.660 --> 32:53.660]  Notice of crime to the grand jury
[32:53.660 --> 32:56.660]  And they're going to start hopping up and down
[32:56.660 --> 32:59.660]  And if they give me much trouble I'll call 911
[32:59.660 --> 33:02.660]  I'll ask the sheriff to come out and arrest them
[33:02.660 --> 33:05.660]  And I will do my best to get them
[33:05.660 --> 33:08.660]  To sick the U.S. attorney on me
[33:08.660 --> 33:11.660]  I want him to come down and say
[33:11.660 --> 33:14.660]  You can't go to the grand jury
[33:14.660 --> 33:17.660]  And I'll say, wait right there
[33:17.660 --> 33:20.660]  Don't go anywhere, I'm going to get somebody
[33:20.660 --> 33:23.660]  Down here to arrest you
[33:23.660 --> 33:26.660]  But I want him to deny me access
[33:26.660 --> 33:29.660]  To the grand jury
[33:29.660 --> 33:32.660]  He's going to tell me I cannot present
[33:32.660 --> 33:35.660]  Complaints to the grand jury
[33:35.660 --> 33:38.660]  And I'm going to assure him
[33:38.660 --> 33:41.660]  That I am not interested in presenting complaints
[33:41.660 --> 33:44.660]  To the grand jury
[33:44.660 --> 33:47.660]  Because when he uses the word
[33:47.660 --> 33:50.660]  He's using it as a noun
[33:50.660 --> 33:53.660]  And implying that he's using it
[33:53.660 --> 33:56.660]  As a transitive verb
[33:56.660 --> 33:59.660]  Now guys
[33:59.660 --> 34:02.660]  Present is not a verb in this context
[34:02.660 --> 34:05.660]  Present refers to
[34:05.660 --> 34:08.660]  A special kind of action
[34:08.660 --> 34:11.660]  That a prosecuting attorney
[34:11.660 --> 34:14.660]  Does before a grand jury
[34:14.660 --> 34:17.660]  The way a prosecuting attorney
[34:17.660 --> 34:20.660]  Gives notice to a grand jury
[34:20.660 --> 34:23.660]  Of crime is through a presentment
[34:23.660 --> 34:26.660]  And he does a presentment
[34:26.660 --> 34:29.660]  To the grand jury
[34:29.660 --> 34:32.660]  That is a special action
[34:32.660 --> 34:35.660]  Defined in law
[34:35.660 --> 34:38.660]  And only a prosecuting attorney
[34:38.660 --> 34:41.660]  Can do that as a matter of law
[34:41.660 --> 34:44.660]  Well, I'm not here to present anything
[34:44.660 --> 34:47.660]  To the grand jury
[34:48.660 --> 34:51.660]  Yeah, I don't have a presentment
[34:51.660 --> 34:54.660]  I just have notice
[34:54.660 --> 34:57.660]  So I'm here to give notice
[34:57.660 --> 35:00.660]  And in the Fed
[35:00.660 --> 35:03.660]  All felonies
[35:03.660 --> 35:06.660]  I think that's part of where they get this idea
[35:06.660 --> 35:09.660]  That only felonies go to grand jury
[35:09.660 --> 35:12.660]  Because that's the way it is in the Fed
[35:12.660 --> 35:15.660]  That's actually in the code
[35:15.660 --> 35:18.660]  It does not restrict
[35:18.660 --> 35:21.660]  Misdemeanors
[35:21.660 --> 35:24.660]  But it doesn't require misdemeanors
[35:24.660 --> 35:27.660]  To be given to the grand jury
[35:27.660 --> 35:30.660]  Grand juries can be used
[35:30.660 --> 35:33.660]  For more than just finding true bills
[35:33.660 --> 35:36.660]  They can be used for their grand jury subpoena power
[35:36.660 --> 35:39.660]  I've got a whole brief
[35:39.660 --> 35:42.660]  On what you can't use the grand jury for
[35:42.660 --> 35:45.660]  If you can't get together information
[35:45.660 --> 35:48.660]  You can't get other ways
[35:48.660 --> 35:51.660]  But if a
[35:51.660 --> 35:54.660]  U.S. attorney
[35:54.660 --> 35:57.660]  Is made known that a felony has been committed
[35:57.660 --> 36:00.660]  Is required to give that to the grand jury
[36:00.660 --> 36:03.660]  So the grand jury
[36:03.660 --> 36:06.660]  Is required to investigate into all crimes
[36:06.660 --> 36:09.660]  That come to their knowledge by way
[36:09.660 --> 36:12.660]  Of a cheating attorney
[36:12.660 --> 36:15.660]  Or by way
[36:15.660 --> 36:18.660]  Through the knowledge of any grand jury member
[36:18.660 --> 36:21.660]  It's kind of backwards from what Texas says
[36:21.660 --> 36:24.660]  So I'm not here to present
[36:24.660 --> 36:27.660]  I'm here to give notice to a grand jury member
[36:27.660 --> 36:30.660]  Of felony crimes
[36:30.660 --> 36:33.660]  By public officials
[36:33.660 --> 36:36.660]  And when the U.S. attorney
[36:36.660 --> 36:39.660]  Is appointed to the grand jury
[36:39.660 --> 36:42.660]  And these public officials are going to be
[36:42.660 --> 36:45.660]  The justices of the Supreme Court
[36:45.660 --> 36:48.660]  I'm sorry, not the
[36:48.660 --> 36:51.660]  Judges of the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals
[36:51.660 --> 36:54.660]  Now he's afraid of those guys
[36:54.660 --> 36:57.660]  And I'm going to come down here
[36:57.660 --> 37:00.660]  Down there and ask him to present them to a grand jury
[37:00.660 --> 37:03.660]  He's not going to want to do that
[37:03.660 --> 37:06.660]  He has his buddies and he's scared of them too
[37:06.660 --> 37:09.660]  He's darn sure scared of them
[37:09.660 --> 37:12.660]  So he hasn't learned yet
[37:12.660 --> 37:15.660]  To be more afraid of me
[37:15.660 --> 37:18.660]  So I'm going to give them to him and I'm going to hope he has
[37:18.660 --> 37:21.660]  His knuckle-draggers throw me out of the courthouse
[37:21.660 --> 37:24.660]  With threats like the one in Fort Lauderdale did
[37:24.660 --> 37:27.660]  That said if I tried to contact a grand jury again
[37:27.660 --> 37:30.660]  He would charge me a jury tampering
[37:30.660 --> 37:33.660]  You charge me a jury tampering
[37:33.660 --> 37:36.660]  I'll charge you with obstruction
[37:36.660 --> 37:39.660]  We'll see how this works out for you
[37:39.660 --> 37:42.660]  He hung up, they fired the IRS agents the next day
[37:42.660 --> 37:45.660]  This works
[37:45.660 --> 37:48.660]  So I want to file against the Fifth Circuit judges
[37:48.660 --> 37:51.660]  With this attorney and get him
[37:51.660 --> 37:54.660]  To refuse to allow me to give notice
[37:54.660 --> 37:57.660]  To the grand jury so that I can go to our new
[37:57.660 --> 38:00.660]  Attorney General, Pam Bondi
[38:00.660 --> 38:03.660]  With criminal complaints
[38:03.660 --> 38:06.660]  Against the U.S. attorney
[38:06.660 --> 38:09.660]  For misprison of felony
[38:09.660 --> 38:12.660]  18 U.S. Code 4
[38:12.660 --> 38:15.660]  Right up there in the front
[38:15.660 --> 38:18.660]  And then
[38:18.660 --> 38:21.660]  Petition her
[38:21.660 --> 38:24.660]  To instruct all U.S. attorneys
[38:24.660 --> 38:27.660]  That when they receive notice of crime
[38:27.660 --> 38:30.660]  From a citizen
[38:30.660 --> 38:33.660]  That is a felony
[38:33.660 --> 38:36.660]  Federal crime that is a felony
[38:36.660 --> 38:39.660]  They are commanded to give it to the grand jury
[38:39.660 --> 38:42.660]  That'll open up the grand jury
[38:42.660 --> 38:45.660]  I'm going to argue that
[38:45.660 --> 38:48.660]  By blocking my opportunity
[38:48.660 --> 38:51.660]  To give notice to a grand jury
[38:51.660 --> 38:54.660]  I am going to call the public of Texas
[38:54.660 --> 38:57.660]  Into a democracy
[38:57.660 --> 39:00.660]  Because you did not as citizen in a republic
[39:00.660 --> 39:03.660]  The primary ability
[39:03.660 --> 39:06.660]  That separates a democracy
[39:06.660 --> 39:09.660]  From a public
[39:09.660 --> 39:12.660]  That is that in a republic
[39:12.660 --> 39:15.660]  Citizen is the ultimate
[39:15.660 --> 39:18.660]  Authority in the republic
[39:18.660 --> 39:21.660]  Our responsibility and our right
[39:21.660 --> 39:24.660]  To keep control
[39:24.660 --> 39:27.660]  Of the governmental instruments we have created
[39:27.660 --> 39:30.660]  Take that control away from us
[39:30.660 --> 39:33.660]  Turn us into a democracy
[39:33.660 --> 39:36.660]  And I'm going to tell her
[39:36.660 --> 39:39.660]  All this stuff that you're complaining about now
[39:39.660 --> 39:42.660]  There are a lot of people out here who know about that
[39:42.660 --> 39:45.660]  You opened federal grand juries up to the public
[39:45.660 --> 39:48.660]  You will get notice of crime very early
[39:48.660 --> 39:51.660]  You'll find out all the stuff that's going on
[39:51.660 --> 39:54.660]  I can get her to do that
[39:54.660 --> 39:57.660]  Now we have the door open for us
[39:57.660 --> 40:00.660]  To start suing
[40:00.660 --> 40:03.660]  Justices of the peace and judges
[40:03.660 --> 40:06.660]  For not issuing criminal complaints
[40:06.660 --> 40:09.660]  On complaints by citizens
[40:09.660 --> 40:12.660]  We'll get the door open
[40:12.660 --> 40:15.660]  We'll start filing against
[40:15.660 --> 40:18.660]  Justices of the peace
[40:18.660 --> 40:21.660]  For not holding proper examining trials
[40:21.660 --> 40:24.660]  I think we can get this fixed
[40:24.660 --> 40:27.660]  I think that's probably the same thing
[40:27.660 --> 40:30.660]  That Mary was about to tell us
[40:30.660 --> 40:33.660]  I think she's about to tell us about
[40:33.660 --> 40:36.660]  I think Mary
[40:36.660 --> 40:39.660]  Is going to straighten out everything
[40:39.660 --> 40:42.660]  Mary has all the answers, right Mary?
[40:42.660 --> 40:45.660]  Yes
[40:45.660 --> 40:48.660]  Hang on, we will pick you up on the other side
[40:48.660 --> 40:51.660]  That was Brett's really subtle way
[40:51.660 --> 40:54.660]  Of telling me to shut the heck up and go to the callers
[40:54.660 --> 40:57.660]  Okay, we'll get you on the other side
[40:57.660 --> 41:00.660]  We'll be right back
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[43:54.660 --> 43:57.660]  And slavery shows resistance
[43:57.660 --> 44:00.660]  First I'm crawling And then I'm walking
[44:00.660 --> 44:03.660]  Then I start strutting
[44:03.660 --> 44:06.660]  And just so glad to make my living pushing buttons
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[44:22.660 --> 44:30.300]  some bread fountain rule of our radio and Mary we have we have a bunch of cows and we
[44:30.300 --> 44:41.740]  have some cabbage you know what I want right I want you to tell those cows how to eat the
[44:41.740 --> 44:51.500]  cabbage okay what do you have for us Mary Mary's a high-level politician you know so
[44:51.500 --> 45:00.220]  be careful she's into politics she she is a Republican well on that note all you guys
[45:00.220 --> 45:06.820]  out there who are bored and keep telling everybody what they need to do for you and how they need to
[45:06.820 --> 45:13.220]  make a team go you are a leader already and you need to go start your own political action
[45:13.220 --> 45:18.980]  committee you need to go to your Republican or Democrat Party and go to your county meetings
[45:18.980 --> 45:26.660]  and screw the third party you're talking to a libertarian a Green Party or any other third
[45:26.660 --> 45:34.060]  party stop talking to them and go to your real party and get involved as a duty as a Christian
[45:34.060 --> 45:41.180]  duty to be involved and get yourself seated as a precinct chair at some point or on one of your
[45:41.180 --> 45:44.300]  county committees where it's a voting base.
[45:44.300 --> 45:50.340]  Okay, Mary Krennic knows everybody in politics and everybody knows her.
[45:50.340 --> 45:59.540]  Mary Krennic works on a garbage truck but everybody knows who she is.
[45:59.540 --> 46:06.820]  We have more power than you that most of us imagine.
[46:06.820 --> 46:15.980]  Mary I went down with Mary once to a Senate subcommittee hearing I won't do that again.
[46:15.980 --> 46:22.220]  I had to pull her off the sergeant at arms I thought she's gonna get us both beaten into
[46:22.220 --> 46:26.660]  unconsciousness and throw it under the jail but you go down.
[46:26.860 --> 46:29.340]  They turned off your video camera.
[46:29.340 --> 46:33.220]  Yeah, they did.
[46:33.220 --> 46:38.820]  They were holding an open meeting and they decided to make it a closed meeting right down here at
[46:38.820 --> 46:43.580]  your wealthy Texas Capitol.
[46:43.580 --> 46:48.220]  But beating up the sergeant at arms that was a little extreme.
[46:48.260 --> 46:57.500]  Now we went over to file criminal charges against the governor, the senator who was heading the
[46:57.500 --> 47:01.460]  meeting with the captain on the Capitol Police.
[47:01.460 --> 47:03.020]  That was funny enough.
[47:03.020 --> 47:09.100]  But we come back and there's Mary about to beat up the sergeant at arms.
[47:09.100 --> 47:11.500]  But well, you were I couldn't get away with it.
[47:11.500 --> 47:16.020]  But you get a lady involved and it's different.
[47:16.020 --> 47:17.540]  Well, he was pretty handsome.
[47:17.580 --> 47:19.860]  I might have been wearing a dress to that day.
[47:19.860 --> 47:21.980]  I was trying to look like a videographer.
[47:21.980 --> 47:23.220]  So I was wearing all black.
[47:23.220 --> 47:29.300]  But the trick on that one, I think, was because of my work with boat rescue, I happened to
[47:29.300 --> 47:38.820]  know where the police kept their build their their front door or their office.
[47:38.820 --> 47:39.820]  Yeah, she took us in.
[47:39.820 --> 47:41.540]  We climbed down the captain's store.
[47:41.540 --> 47:42.860]  We had a great time.
[47:42.900 --> 47:48.500]  But well, we're in front of a Senate subcommittee hearing.
[47:48.500 --> 47:54.460]  And there are about 100 or so people in this audience.
[47:54.460 --> 47:56.180]  It was busy.
[47:56.180 --> 47:59.540]  Most of them were lobbyists.
[47:59.540 --> 48:03.420]  About 10 or 15 of them were ordinary citizens.
[48:03.420 --> 48:05.500]  And these senators are up there.
[48:05.500 --> 48:11.860]  They're checking their test messages, text messages and pulling the hairs out of their
[48:11.860 --> 48:17.620]  nose and and while all these lobbyists are up there, blah, blah, blah.
[48:18.340 --> 48:28.180]  But then this woman gets up there and she is really peoed and she is climbing down their
[48:28.180 --> 48:29.020]  strokes.
[48:30.140 --> 48:36.580]  And every single one of those senators are sitting up in their seats, leaning forward,
[48:36.980 --> 48:37.980]  paying attention.
[48:39.580 --> 48:46.780]  Because what what he's looking at, if he's looking at an ordinary citizen, he sees 15
[48:46.780 --> 48:47.420]  votes.
[48:49.820 --> 48:59.220]  And they consider that every person they can get to vote for them is likely to bring them
[48:59.220 --> 49:00.500]  15 votes.
[49:02.180 --> 49:05.300]  And then each one of those can bring them 15 votes.
[49:05.580 --> 49:08.380]  Now, they don't care much about all the lobbyists.
[49:08.740 --> 49:13.500]  But when the citizens come down there and talk to them, that's important to them.
[49:13.500 --> 49:14.980]  That's what keeps them in office.
[49:15.860 --> 49:25.780]  Guys, you have way more power and authority to affect the government around you than you
[49:25.780 --> 49:26.540]  imagine.
[49:26.540 --> 49:34.060]  Because the vast majority of the public are busy with their lives.
[49:34.060 --> 49:39.580]  They got a mortgage, two car payments, three kids, two jobs.
[49:40.420 --> 49:41.780]  They don't have time for this.
[49:43.260 --> 49:49.300]  Those few of us who have time to go down to these Senate subcommittee hearings, that's
[49:49.300 --> 49:56.140]  the only time these senators get to take the pulse of the of the public that votes them
[49:56.140 --> 49:57.020]  in office.
[49:58.980 --> 50:01.460]  You guys got more power than you imagine.
[50:01.460 --> 50:06.340]  If you've never been to a Senate subcommittee hearing, you got to go to one at least once.
[50:08.220 --> 50:09.540]  And watch what happens.
[50:09.860 --> 50:14.700]  Watch the difference between the lobbyists and the ordinary citizens.
[50:16.540 --> 50:18.620]  These guys really pay attention.
[50:19.620 --> 50:29.540]  So with that said, and Mary really understands how to work politics.
[50:30.500 --> 50:35.700]  So tell us, Mary, how do we become influential?
[50:35.700 --> 50:38.580]  How do we move the politicians around us?
[50:39.100 --> 50:44.100]  Well, I wanted to talk to you last week or the week before, but I was too tired.
[50:44.140 --> 50:48.860]  I've been up since 430 AM, and I've just had a great day on the back of one of those trash
[50:48.860 --> 50:49.860]  trucks.
[50:49.860 --> 50:55.020]  I'm working with convicts, I'm working with kids, I'm working with the public, and I'm
[50:55.020 --> 50:57.900]  working with dogs, and I'm outdoors all day long.
[51:00.380 --> 51:03.980]  And she could whip me and Brett both at the same time.
[51:04.820 --> 51:07.300]  Well, at 54, I've gotten back in shape.
[51:07.340 --> 51:12.020]  So I try to go through five pounds of red meat a week with extra sea salt and fat.
[51:12.420 --> 51:15.020]  And I try to do what Dr. Joe Wallach said.
[51:15.380 --> 51:17.500]  Maybe we can get him on your radio show.
[51:18.580 --> 51:20.580]  He used to be over here.
[51:20.620 --> 51:23.220]  And, you know, he says eight eggs a day.
[51:23.260 --> 51:28.180]  So I do the raw eggs and I do them in a milkshake, or you could put them in your
[51:28.180 --> 51:33.740]  smoothies and you will start healing immediately and your diabetes will start
[51:33.740 --> 51:34.980]  going away.
[51:35.140 --> 51:37.460]  It's a very, eggs are a very powerful healer.
[51:37.500 --> 51:45.780]  I believe the yellows are the yellow part of the show, but let me get back to what I
[51:45.780 --> 51:47.740]  wanted to say to one of your callers.
[51:47.780 --> 51:51.580]  And, you know, he was a disgruntled citizen, but very intelligent.
[51:51.980 --> 51:54.940]  And he said, well, Randy, we need to do this and we need to do that.
[51:54.940 --> 51:56.820]  We need we need to come together.
[51:57.300 --> 51:58.540]  We need to come together.
[51:58.780 --> 51:59.860]  Well, guess what, sir?
[52:00.140 --> 52:01.700]  Wait a minute. I know who that is.
[52:01.740 --> 52:02.940]  That's the guy in Goliad.
[52:03.220 --> 52:07.460]  But when he was doing that, he was so drunk, he couldn't hardly talk.
[52:08.380 --> 52:09.860]  I don't think so.
[52:10.340 --> 52:11.100]  He's a great guy.
[52:11.500 --> 52:14.060]  I went to Victoria County.
[52:15.100 --> 52:20.020]  And, you know, I feel like I really don't know someone until I've been in a tight
[52:20.020 --> 52:20.780]  spot with him.
[52:21.580 --> 52:24.220]  You know, Eddie Craig, Eddie Craig can really be a snot.
[52:25.380 --> 52:26.460]  He can be a jerk.
[52:27.300 --> 52:32.620]  But I took him to Randall County with me and he's never seen me do this stuff.
[52:33.060 --> 52:36.860]  So he's standing behind me and I'm in this hallway.
[52:37.140 --> 52:42.580]  It's got a glass section here and the district attorney's office is there.
[52:42.860 --> 52:45.980]  And the elected district attorney was about five foot two.
[52:47.540 --> 52:52.220]  Now, the other side of the glass, there was this about a little over a foot wide
[52:52.220 --> 52:57.780]  shelf there and he was standing, put his hands on that shelf and was standing up
[52:57.780 --> 52:59.140]  on his tippy toes.
[53:00.100 --> 53:06.180]  So it was clear that being a short guy in Texas was a problem for him.
[53:06.180 --> 53:10.980]  He's trying to look taller and I'm trying to get him to arrest a judge.
[53:12.420 --> 53:14.820]  And he's refusing to take my complaint.
[53:15.700 --> 53:18.420]  So I told him, I need security.
[53:19.980 --> 53:23.460]  And he leaned forward and he said, Mr.
[53:23.460 --> 53:26.660]  Kelton, you're very secure here.
[53:27.420 --> 53:32.340]  I leaned into the glass and looked down at him and said, you're not.
[53:33.780 --> 53:36.260]  I need security to arrest you.
[53:36.740 --> 53:41.900]  And I looked over my shoulder at Eddie and Eddie did not even blinch.
[53:45.060 --> 53:53.620]  For all of his faults and his bad attitude, when I did something that terrifies
[53:53.620 --> 53:57.340]  most people, he didn't even bat an eye.
[53:57.380 --> 53:59.220]  He didn't back up half an inch.
[54:00.100 --> 54:03.300]  And I know Mary, you don't like Eddie Craig and I get it.
[54:05.100 --> 54:09.380]  But if you're in a tight spot, you'll be there.
[54:10.340 --> 54:11.580]  He won't back up and run.
[54:12.740 --> 54:16.740]  And same thing with Mary Crinnick.
[54:16.740 --> 54:20.340]  Mary Crinnick went down to the courthouse with me.
[54:21.020 --> 54:23.980]  Remember that Mary?
[54:23.980 --> 54:33.820]  She was my backup until I guess she'll take on the sergeant at arms.
[54:33.820 --> 54:36.060]  She'll take on anybody you need to know.
[54:36.060 --> 54:37.980]  She ran out of the courthouse.
[54:41.300 --> 54:48.300]  She ran like a rabbit or one of your best friends that you can rely on.
[54:49.060 --> 54:50.820]  That doesn't lie to you or steal.
[54:52.020 --> 54:53.740]  Well, you don't have to worry about none of that.
[54:53.980 --> 54:55.660]  I thought you were about to rescue.
[54:56.460 --> 54:56.940]  Okay.
[54:56.940 --> 54:59.700]  When we come back on the other side, I really want to get back to the
[54:59.700 --> 55:00.820]  value of Mary Crinnick.
[55:01.620 --> 55:03.380]  Mary Crinnick is very valuable to me.
[55:03.380 --> 55:06.180]  And I would like you guys to listen to her.
[55:06.380 --> 55:09.340]  She knows how to handle politics.
[55:10.260 --> 55:13.980]  And I generally don't do politics on this show.
[55:14.460 --> 55:18.820]  She has been training me on how to deal with politics.
[55:21.140 --> 55:22.260]  We got 30 seconds.
[55:22.780 --> 55:26.620]  Mary, where do you want me to lead to when we come back?
[55:27.500 --> 55:31.380]  Well, I just, I did want to comment about the power of political action
[55:31.380 --> 55:35.380]  committees and the power of getting involved with your party, becoming a
[55:35.900 --> 55:37.660]  committee member of your party.
[55:37.900 --> 55:38.380]  Pick one.
[55:38.380 --> 55:39.700]  I don't care if it's a Democrat.
[55:40.260 --> 55:44.820]  And becoming a consensus builder, a team builder in your party.
[55:45.540 --> 55:45.820]  Okay.
[55:45.820 --> 55:46.260]  Hang on.
[55:48.260 --> 55:48.980]  We'll be right back.
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[58:12.700 --> 58:15.980]  tell them to dust off their copy of the bill of rights and reread the third
[58:16.020 --> 58:16.540]  amendment.
[58:17.060 --> 58:17.380]  I'm Dr.
[58:17.380 --> 58:21.140]  Catherine Albrecht, more news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[58:31.500 --> 58:35.100]  The bill of rights contains the first 10 amendments of our constitution.
[58:35.220 --> 58:38.580]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[58:38.660 --> 58:40.060]  Our liberty depends on it.
[58:40.380 --> 58:40.700]  I'm Dr.
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[58:43.860 --> 58:46.100]  remember one of your constitutional rights.
[58:46.620 --> 58:48.340]  Privacy is under attack.
[58:48.580 --> 58:51.900]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
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[01:00:10.340 --> 01:00:19.340]  I read his book and he says, he cares none for the unsightly, these warmongers come
[01:00:19.340 --> 01:00:31.740]  by that term rightly, I won't pay for the war with my body, ain't gonna pay for their
[01:00:31.740 --> 01:00:38.540]  car with my money, I won't pay for the fun with my body, their plans wicked and
[01:00:39.420 --> 01:00:46.340]  their logic shoddy, ain't gonna pay for the oil with my body, I won't pay for the
[01:00:46.340 --> 01:00:53.500]  boys with my money, ain't gonna pay for the kids with my body, their whole agenda
[01:00:53.500 --> 01:01:05.660]  smells funny, I wanna fight in a war of my own, that one would be less accident
[01:01:05.660 --> 01:01:19.740]  pro, I wanna pay for war of my own, they live in glass houses so I can watch them
[01:01:19.740 --> 01:01:28.100]  throw bones, I wanna fight in a war I can win, I can never win the one that they
[01:01:28.100 --> 01:01:36.540]  have me in, that one I lose long before it begins, I wanna pay for a war I can win when
[01:01:36.540 --> 01:01:45.380]  I'm fighting in my own war, it's such a peaceful feeling.
[01:01:49.220 --> 01:01:55.460]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Brett Pound, we're looking at our radio on this
[01:01:55.460 --> 01:02:04.380]  Friday, the seventh day of February 2025, and we're talking to Ms. Mary and she's
[01:02:04.380 --> 01:02:11.620]  gonna teach us how to do politics, how to be politically effective.
[01:02:13.140 --> 01:02:17.180]  Oh, do even better when I unmute you, okay.
[01:02:20.380 --> 01:02:21.900]  Okay, talk to us.
[01:02:22.860 --> 01:02:24.540]  Well, first off, I was gonna get a little concerned.
[01:02:24.540 --> 01:02:26.780]  Teach us, we are in tour.
[01:02:27.820 --> 01:02:32.220]  Well, first off, I was gonna be a little concerned because you had introduced this
[01:02:32.220 --> 01:02:35.820]  program as January the seventh, when you started earlier.
[01:02:36.860 --> 01:02:38.100]  Oh, did I say January?
[01:02:38.100 --> 01:02:46.700]  Oh, that's bad, we'll have to get Debra to fix that, oh, months ago, Brett, did you
[01:02:46.700 --> 01:02:48.060]  tell me it was January?
[01:02:49.860 --> 01:02:51.060]  He does that to me all the time.
[01:02:51.500 --> 01:02:54.860]  You wouldn't believe me, but you did it by yourself, that's just classic.
[01:02:56.820 --> 01:02:58.580]  This is elder abuse.
[01:03:01.380 --> 01:03:05.620]  Okay, it's February with an R.
[01:03:09.260 --> 01:03:11.100]  Okay, we'll get Debra to go back and fix that.
[01:03:13.020 --> 01:03:18.100]  And it's important, the very first one is really important, it's important I get it right.
[01:03:19.100 --> 01:03:22.780]  Okay, go ahead, teach us, be our mentor.
[01:03:22.780 --> 01:03:28.940]  Oh, okay, well, just remember next Friday is Valentine, so buy your wife something.
[01:03:30.580 --> 01:03:38.300]  Oh, yeah, don't forget that, that's dangerous, I'd love to go into Walmart on Valentine's
[01:03:38.300 --> 01:03:44.500]  Day, you see all these guys running there and grabbing up all the flowers, and I'd
[01:03:44.500 --> 01:03:46.020]  pick on them and laugh at them.
[01:03:46.420 --> 01:03:47.340]  Anyway, okay.
[01:03:47.820 --> 01:03:49.860]  You'd probably get in trouble if you got her something.
[01:03:50.700 --> 01:03:51.620]  Yeah, probably would.
[01:03:52.380 --> 01:03:53.700]  My wife hates roses.
[01:03:55.620 --> 01:04:02.780]  Okay, well, that's nuts, anyway, tell us how to do politics, tell us how to
[01:04:02.780 --> 01:04:08.500]  understand how politics works and why we should even care.
[01:04:09.980 --> 01:04:14.300]  Well, it's a Christian duty, it's a Christian duty, it's a Christian duty.
[01:04:15.220 --> 01:04:19.660]  It's a Christian duty to show up, you know who won Pennsylvania for Trump?
[01:04:20.820 --> 01:04:26.180]  The Shakers, we tried to shake the Shakers out of their good food and their good
[01:04:26.180 --> 01:04:31.260]  products, and they rebelled and came to the polling booth, Elon Musk was saying
[01:04:31.260 --> 01:04:36.300]  they gave, the Shakers and Quakers can't drive, but they can sit in your van on
[01:04:36.300 --> 01:04:37.420]  the way to the voting booth.
[01:04:38.100 --> 01:04:41.380]  You're talking about the black bumper Mennonites and the Amish.
[01:04:42.700 --> 01:04:43.500]  Well, whoever.
[01:04:44.020 --> 01:04:50.700]  They live their lives in the private, but at the appropriate times, they understand
[01:04:50.700 --> 01:04:55.060]  the difference between the public and the private, and I have people in the
[01:04:55.060 --> 01:04:58.460]  Patriot community talking about that, and I was telling them, stop, stop, stop.
[01:04:58.980 --> 01:05:02.420]  If you want to understand the difference between the public and the private,
[01:05:03.180 --> 01:05:04.700]  go talk to the Amish.
[01:05:06.300 --> 01:05:11.100]  They fully understand when they're operating in the public, when they're
[01:05:11.100 --> 01:05:12.260]  operating in the private.
[01:05:14.260 --> 01:05:18.940]  And you're saying they came out of the public, out of the private, into the
[01:05:18.940 --> 01:05:22.700]  public, because they got it.
[01:05:23.460 --> 01:05:30.660]  And they won, they won that race in Pennsylvania for Trump.
[01:05:32.580 --> 01:05:39.700]  So, they say your vote matters, I'm not sure it does.
[01:05:40.940 --> 01:05:43.260]  I'm not sure they count the votes, guys.
[01:05:44.220 --> 01:05:49.820]  But I tell you, when you go to your Republican or Democrat County monthly
[01:05:49.820 --> 01:05:51.660]  meetings, guess what?
[01:05:51.660 --> 01:05:58.020]  We count our votes in public and we count them with paper and we count
[01:05:58.020 --> 01:06:00.260]  them in front of all the people.
[01:06:01.300 --> 01:06:04.580]  And so, you know, it's a Christian duty to be involved.
[01:06:04.580 --> 01:06:06.700]  It's a Christian duty to understand law.
[01:06:07.340 --> 01:06:12.140]  Hell, it's a Christian duty to be, to be literate.
[01:06:13.140 --> 01:06:19.940]  And so, I do challenge you to join a party, Republican or Democrat.
[01:06:20.500 --> 01:06:24.860]  And you can have friends that are anarchistic or a libertarian or the
[01:06:24.860 --> 01:06:30.820]  Green Party or whatnot, have those friends who are intellectual scholars
[01:06:30.820 --> 01:06:35.180]  and whatnot, debate with them and learn with them, but please involve yourself
[01:06:35.300 --> 01:06:41.260]  in these two groups that form the basis of almost world politic.
[01:06:42.180 --> 01:06:45.500]  You must be involved, your vote does count there because we count them
[01:06:45.500 --> 01:06:47.900]  in public at your committee meetings.
[01:06:48.980 --> 01:06:52.740]  You can get on a committee without being a precinct chair, or you can sit
[01:06:52.740 --> 01:06:57.980]  on the, get a, get a nominate yourself and become a precinct chair member.
[01:06:57.980 --> 01:07:02.940]  Please show up and there's ways once you're a precinct chair, we can show
[01:07:02.940 --> 01:07:08.260]  you through the text messaging apps and using data that you're privileged to,
[01:07:09.060 --> 01:07:12.020]  to contact members in your precinct.
[01:07:12.540 --> 01:07:18.740]  About political issues, solutions, education, and events, form your own pack.
[01:07:18.780 --> 01:07:20.740]  Get out there and form a legal pack.
[01:07:21.140 --> 01:07:24.580]  Get involved, make money, make money on all this stuff.
[01:07:24.580 --> 01:07:30.060]  You know, I find that leadership does not always teach us how to become leaders,
[01:07:30.740 --> 01:07:36.140]  but we become leaders like Randy by, by getting in the, in the mix.
[01:07:37.060 --> 01:07:41.740]  And so tell us about packs these, you've mentioned this before,
[01:07:41.740 --> 01:07:43.260]  political action committees.
[01:07:43.340 --> 01:07:49.620]  What's, what's, what is it and what, what's it good for first?
[01:07:49.620 --> 01:07:53.260]  Let me say, you're always welcome to your city council meetings, citizens
[01:07:53.260 --> 01:07:59.660]  communication, your counts or your county meetings and your state legislative
[01:07:59.660 --> 01:08:03.420]  meetings, you don't have to be in a party to come to those and express your opinions.
[01:08:04.380 --> 01:08:07.620]  So those are all direct avenues we should be involved in.
[01:08:07.620 --> 01:08:13.740]  And we all should be allowed to be, to watch court, to freely watch court trials.
[01:08:14.820 --> 01:08:19.940]  So going to the pack, I still have a much to learn about packs.
[01:08:20.340 --> 01:08:25.140]  Once you start raising money, you are going to have to start performing tax
[01:08:25.140 --> 01:08:30.540]  audits on yourself, presenting tax information to the government.
[01:08:31.020 --> 01:08:36.460]  But otherwise, if there's not money being raised, it's easier to do what you will.
[01:08:37.460 --> 01:08:41.180]  These, but this can be run similar to sort of a nonprofit or
[01:08:41.180 --> 01:08:42.780]  corporation or a business.
[01:08:43.300 --> 01:08:48.140]  And that's about as far as that advice can go there outside of, I believe you
[01:08:48.140 --> 01:08:52.500]  need a board and who was on the board is best situated as your family and
[01:08:52.500 --> 01:08:55.620]  friends, not other leaders.
[01:08:56.180 --> 01:08:56.420]  Okay.
[01:08:56.420 --> 01:08:57.300]  Hold on, hold on.
[01:08:57.300 --> 01:08:59.220]  You took a step forward.
[01:09:00.140 --> 01:09:11.740]  Tell us about packs and how they affect your standing or gravitas when you're
[01:09:11.740 --> 01:09:13.300]  talking to public officials.
[01:09:14.820 --> 01:09:21.860]  Well, the gravitas is that we're going to help elect you or once you're seated and
[01:09:21.900 --> 01:09:30.580]  you have rebuffed your promises and your words that we can do a recall on you.
[01:09:30.900 --> 01:09:34.500]  So we're going to, we're going to promote local politicians and then we will
[01:09:34.500 --> 01:09:37.460]  recall them if we need to, we will hold them accountable.
[01:09:37.780 --> 01:09:44.860]  Packs can also form loose social networks and social activities as well.
[01:09:45.220 --> 01:09:49.860]  So you can be around like-minded individuals, have softball groups, go
[01:09:49.860 --> 01:09:54.020]  camping, have, you know, different parties, workshops.
[01:09:54.020 --> 01:09:58.380]  What Mary was telling me before about packs is that if you're talking to
[01:09:58.380 --> 01:10:03.420]  politicians and you're just a citizen, you know, they'll tend to pay attention
[01:10:03.420 --> 01:10:04.980]  to you because you're one of the voters.
[01:10:05.980 --> 01:10:12.260]  But if you're a pack, if you have a pack behind you, no matter how big it is, that
[01:10:12.260 --> 01:10:15.460]  changes their perspective considerably.
[01:10:16.100 --> 01:10:19.220]  Now they don't look at you as 15 votes.
[01:10:19.940 --> 01:10:23.620]  They look at you as a large block of votes.
[01:10:24.300 --> 01:10:28.980]  Well, I like to form coalitions with other pack member, with other packs.
[01:10:29.100 --> 01:10:34.340]  So we will form broad coalitions or you can form an issue-based coalition on
[01:10:34.340 --> 01:10:36.420]  people that you're normally divergent from.
[01:10:37.580 --> 01:10:38.340]  So, okay.
[01:10:39.660 --> 01:10:44.740]  And then what about this part where you said you'll get them out of office if
[01:10:44.740 --> 01:10:46.740]  they need to be brought out of office?
[01:10:46.820 --> 01:10:51.420]  Do the, do these public officials have that sense?
[01:10:51.460 --> 01:10:53.980]  Will they have that feeling that you're, you're going to maybe do
[01:10:53.980 --> 01:10:55.340]  that if that's necessary?
[01:10:55.420 --> 01:11:00.220]  We in Austin, we in Austin have carried campaigns out like that.
[01:11:00.340 --> 01:11:08.940]  And also the Tea Party, now the True Texas Project, they watch closely the
[01:11:08.940 --> 01:11:14.980]  people they present, but they also help direct them, especially the younger folks.
[01:11:17.100 --> 01:11:20.220]  A pack is something too, that can have longevity.
[01:11:20.540 --> 01:11:22.580]  Well, you might have a young upstart.
[01:11:22.700 --> 01:11:27.300]  Like I ran for mayor at one point, but I, my main issue was to become a
[01:11:27.300 --> 01:11:29.100]  damaged party in election fraud.
[01:11:29.700 --> 01:11:34.700]  So like Randy said, you know, expect them to do what you don't want them to do.
[01:11:34.860 --> 01:11:37.740]  Expect them to do what you're doing and then orchestrate around it.
[01:11:37.740 --> 01:11:39.180]  That's what Rosa Parks did.
[01:11:39.420 --> 01:11:44.060]  When she sat on the, on the front of the bus, the black lady and got arrested,
[01:11:44.100 --> 01:11:46.940]  she had already had a team of lawyers behind her.
[01:11:47.980 --> 01:11:52.420]  So we had also done that one time on one of the businesses I was part of.
[01:11:53.140 --> 01:11:57.100]  When we were performing a taxi cab like duty, we set the police up
[01:11:57.100 --> 01:12:02.460]  with a reverse sting operation, videotaped them arresting our, our
[01:12:02.460 --> 01:12:07.820]  president of a corporation, of our small corporation, of a golf, a solar cab,
[01:12:07.820 --> 01:12:11.780]  golf carts, or these are just, yeah, no, these are electric cabs.
[01:12:11.860 --> 01:12:18.180]  And so anyways, it's a reverse engineering lawsuit like Randy talks about.
[01:12:18.340 --> 01:12:27.380]  And so outside of all that stuff, um, back when, um, you have the tea party
[01:12:27.380 --> 01:12:34.220]  that's now a true Texas project and all this stuff, um, let's say, okay.
[01:12:34.700 --> 01:12:39.660]  When I ran for mayor, I was running, you know, for several things, I was
[01:12:39.740 --> 01:12:44.700]  care occurs, you know, I promoted it as a certain different ideas, you know,
[01:12:44.700 --> 01:12:48.620]  different things I stood for, but primarily I was just running to
[01:12:48.620 --> 01:12:49.900]  sue on election fraud.
[01:12:50.860 --> 01:12:56.860]  And so, um, all that being said, that was a campaign that lasted maybe
[01:12:56.860 --> 01:12:59.020]  three months, maybe four or five months.
[01:12:59.060 --> 01:12:59.940]  It was very fun.
[01:12:59.940 --> 01:13:01.140]  It was very interesting.
[01:13:01.780 --> 01:13:06.300]  And it was also fun to see people that I thought were on my side, who weren't on
[01:13:06.300 --> 01:13:10.900]  my side, I'm thinking of a female friend of mine, but it's fun to see
[01:13:10.900 --> 01:13:11.860]  people under pressure.
[01:13:11.860 --> 01:13:16.940]  Like you said, um, somebody can get angry.
[01:13:16.940 --> 01:13:20.900]  They can run for office and then they're out like a flame.
[01:13:20.940 --> 01:13:22.100]  They're out like a light.
[01:13:22.340 --> 01:13:26.860]  They never return instead of wasting your energy on a flipping campaign,
[01:13:26.900 --> 01:13:30.540]  which I see, I see, you know, multimillionaires do in Austin.
[01:13:30.980 --> 01:13:33.940]  And I tell them all, start a pack, brand your name.
[01:13:34.220 --> 01:13:38.900]  That pack can last five, 10, 20 years or a hundred to 200 years.
[01:13:40.260 --> 01:13:42.220]  And that pack can control politics.
[01:13:46.660 --> 01:13:47.940]  And it could be Christian.
[01:13:48.260 --> 01:13:49.500]  It could be vegetarian.
[01:13:49.540 --> 01:13:50.660]  It could be anything.
[01:13:53.060 --> 01:13:53.420]  Okay.
[01:13:53.420 --> 01:13:54.020]  Hang on.
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[01:16:27.420 --> 01:16:43.700]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Yulia Larrillo, and we're
[01:16:43.700 --> 01:16:45.740]  talking to Mary in Texas.
[01:16:45.740 --> 01:16:50.020]  And, you know, I was talking to Brett on the break about this, I can go
[01:16:50.020 --> 01:16:52.900]  to a public official as Randy Kelton.
[01:16:54.260 --> 01:16:55.780]  And they are not impressed.
[01:16:57.180 --> 01:17:00.220]  But if, but if I'm more impressed than if you were a lobbyist,
[01:17:01.300 --> 01:17:03.100]  that, yeah, that is true.
[01:17:03.580 --> 01:17:05.500]  Well, it depends on how much money I've given them.
[01:17:06.260 --> 01:17:14.820]  But if I go to them as a representative of a pack that then we get their
[01:17:14.820 --> 01:17:20.380]  attention, we can have influence and Mary has influence.
[01:17:23.020 --> 01:17:24.980]  She works on the back of a garbage truck.
[01:17:25.660 --> 01:17:30.700]  But if you go to Austin government, everybody knows who Mary Krennic is.
[01:17:33.380 --> 01:17:36.500]  You can have power and influence.
[01:17:36.700 --> 01:17:46.500]  And, and Mary, she's, Mary's primary gift is she's able to put people together.
[01:17:48.900 --> 01:17:51.380]  Mary is not the one that goes in and changes things.
[01:17:51.580 --> 01:17:56.380]  She's the one that, that pulls the right people together and puts them in the
[01:17:56.380 --> 01:17:59.060]  place where they need to be so they can change things.
[01:17:59.060 --> 01:18:01.940]  And that's a really powerful tool to have.
[01:18:02.900 --> 01:18:11.620]  But I was most impressed about the idea of packs and how a pact helps to,
[01:18:12.820 --> 01:18:15.500]  for, to give someone influence.
[01:18:16.420 --> 01:18:21.220]  Anyway, so how do we set up a pact and what all's involved in it?
[01:18:22.100 --> 01:18:27.380]  Well, well, just let me just close with these three things and we can talk more
[01:18:27.380 --> 01:18:30.460]  on this later and then I want to ask you a question about your lawsuit.
[01:18:31.140 --> 01:18:37.460]  But so primarily my, this is what, you know, I'm not a hippie anymore.
[01:18:38.100 --> 01:18:38.580]  Okay.
[01:18:38.580 --> 01:18:40.860]  I'm 11 years sober, born again.
[01:18:40.900 --> 01:18:41.260]  Okay.
[01:18:41.260 --> 01:18:43.700]  I'm 11 years sober, born again.
[01:18:44.500 --> 01:18:46.140]  You're a recovering hippie.
[01:18:47.940 --> 01:18:52.740]  Uh, I'm, I'm 11 years sober and I'm a born again Christian.
[01:18:54.100 --> 01:19:00.300]  And so, but hippies used to say, speak power to, to truth or what?
[01:19:00.300 --> 01:19:05.180]  And what we used to say, speak, speak truth to power, speak truth to power.
[01:19:05.180 --> 01:19:05.660]  Right.
[01:19:06.460 --> 01:19:09.780]  And so I've, I've saw one of my hippie friends, he had that button
[01:19:09.860 --> 01:19:13.980]  question authority and I said, he goes, do you want one?
[01:19:14.220 --> 01:19:15.420]  I said, that's a great button.
[01:19:15.420 --> 01:19:17.940]  I said, no, actually I am authority now.
[01:19:18.460 --> 01:19:20.940]  I don't, I don't question authority cause I am authority.
[01:19:21.340 --> 01:19:27.380]  And so once, once, um, you have a change in your thinking and an adulting, you
[01:19:27.380 --> 01:19:33.380]  know, of a critical thinking and stuff, you're no longer approaching these
[01:19:33.380 --> 01:19:35.340]  people as a victim or subject.
[01:19:35.740 --> 01:19:37.140]  And that's one thing you taught me.
[01:19:37.140 --> 01:19:42.540]  And I took a long time for my brain to move from permanent victim, subject
[01:19:42.540 --> 01:19:48.300]  status, but as a child of God, that also brings my status to a different
[01:19:48.300 --> 01:19:53.420]  jurisdiction, my status into a different jurisdiction.
[01:19:54.100 --> 01:19:57.780]  All that said, I told my friend, I don't want that button, but thank you.
[01:19:58.180 --> 01:20:02.580]  And, and so now what I do is I speak power to truth.
[01:20:03.180 --> 01:20:04.260]  I speak power to true.
[01:20:04.260 --> 01:20:08.340]  So if you come to us, you say, my children are being hurt school, they're
[01:20:08.340 --> 01:20:13.540]  being masked, they want them to have mRNA, eugenic vaccines, and I start
[01:20:13.540 --> 01:20:18.540]  speaking power to you, you can raise money, you can start a business, you
[01:20:18.540 --> 01:20:20.420]  can come together, you can learn.
[01:20:20.420 --> 01:20:23.500]  We will help you, but I can't pay your bill.
[01:20:23.500 --> 01:20:25.460]  You're going to have to learn how to start paying your bills.
[01:20:25.500 --> 01:20:27.940]  I can't do this, but we're going to be here for you.
[01:20:28.540 --> 01:20:29.820]  So that's what I do now.
[01:20:29.820 --> 01:20:32.460]  I don't speak truth to power.
[01:20:32.780 --> 01:20:34.540]  I speak power to truth.
[01:20:35.500 --> 01:20:40.380]  That's why Mary Crinnick has always been so important to me.
[01:20:44.460 --> 01:20:46.300]  This is besides she's very accepted.
[01:20:47.860 --> 01:20:55.140]  Well, sitting in Austin at a restaurant right on the lake, it's six foot
[01:20:55.140 --> 01:21:01.740]  hot looking babe sneezed and my false teeth bounced across the table.
[01:21:03.140 --> 01:21:07.300]  She almost caught him and was very understanding.
[01:21:08.900 --> 01:21:11.780]  That was the day that you, you wanted me to go.
[01:21:12.100 --> 01:21:12.420]  Yeah.
[01:21:12.540 --> 01:21:13.380]  Hey everybody.
[01:21:13.380 --> 01:21:13.660]  Yeah.
[01:21:13.660 --> 01:21:17.700]  I ran out of the courthouse because Randy was just presenting
[01:21:17.700 --> 01:21:20.020]  sedition papers on the governor.
[01:21:22.300 --> 01:21:23.340]  Yeah, I was doing that.
[01:21:24.780 --> 01:21:28.580]  Who was with you then to deliver sedition papers on go.
[01:21:28.860 --> 01:21:32.100]  And the only crazy thing is it actually worked.
[01:21:32.620 --> 01:21:36.620]  Two weeks later, the governor never sent in the mass mandate and 20
[01:21:36.620 --> 01:21:40.300]  other states copied you copied this paper.
[01:21:41.860 --> 01:21:42.900]  Yeah, that was pretty cool.
[01:21:43.020 --> 01:21:49.260]  The only bad part about it was, was the, the Supreme court in Kentucky.
[01:21:50.220 --> 01:21:57.340]  Cited the Magna Carta libertatum and nobody calls it the Magna
[01:21:57.340 --> 01:21:59.180]  Carta libertatum except me.
[01:22:00.140 --> 01:22:06.380]  So they, they cited what I had put in my document.
[01:22:07.420 --> 01:22:10.100]  Problem was it was wrong.
[01:22:13.340 --> 01:22:17.580]  And I just come across somebody else who's, who, who cited the same thing.
[01:22:18.220 --> 01:22:23.300]  I said that the requirement to take someone before a magistrate first
[01:22:23.300 --> 01:22:26.900]  came into law in the Magna Carta libertatum in 1215 AD.
[01:22:26.900 --> 01:22:33.380]  But it didn't, it didn't get put into the Magna Carta until 1689.
[01:22:35.340 --> 01:22:40.940]  But the Supreme, the Supreme court of Kentucky cited it as getting
[01:22:40.940 --> 01:22:42.940]  put in there in 1215 AD.
[01:22:44.420 --> 01:22:46.940]  So they cited my complaint against the governor.
[01:22:47.060 --> 01:22:51.860]  So it, it does look like that complaint got around, but first, just so
[01:22:51.860 --> 01:22:54.860]  everybody understands what the real deal was.
[01:22:55.500 --> 01:23:01.940]  What the real deal was is the governor knew that this is not working good.
[01:23:02.860 --> 01:23:09.380]  Joe Sixpack is not happy with all these BS restrictions, but, but I put them in
[01:23:09.380 --> 01:23:12.140]  place and now they're not working out.
[01:23:12.140 --> 01:23:13.900]  Well, what the heck do I do now?
[01:23:13.900 --> 01:23:14.820]  How do I get rid of them?
[01:23:16.580 --> 01:23:18.820]  Oh, some guys trying to get me put in jail.
[01:23:19.300 --> 01:23:22.500]  Oh, now I got plausible deniability.
[01:23:22.500 --> 01:23:24.220]  Now I can get rid of this son of a guns.
[01:23:25.860 --> 01:23:27.100]  I think that's important.
[01:23:27.100 --> 01:23:28.180]  We understand.
[01:23:29.420 --> 01:23:32.300]  We need to understand the underlying politics.
[01:23:34.860 --> 01:23:37.180]  And when I did that, that's what I was looking at.
[01:23:37.180 --> 01:23:39.660]  It was clear the governor were struggling.
[01:23:40.380 --> 01:23:45.820]  This was right in the backside of COVID and everybody is getting really tired of
[01:23:45.820 --> 01:23:50.420]  all these restrictions and the governor's trying to find a way to bring his
[01:23:50.420 --> 01:23:51.860]  popularity back up.
[01:23:51.860 --> 01:23:55.980]  I filed this criminal complaint, he jokes, he uses that as an excuse and then right
[01:23:55.980 --> 01:23:58.220]  away his popularity starts coming back up.
[01:23:59.660 --> 01:24:01.260]  Everything's politics guys.
[01:24:03.140 --> 01:24:08.940]  The hardest thing for us to do is look past our immediate issue.
[01:24:10.700 --> 01:24:19.660]  Look out at the more pressing issues around us and how can we lump with the
[01:24:19.660 --> 01:24:27.820]  can we lump what we're after into things that other people are after so we can
[01:24:28.300 --> 01:24:29.940]  more effectively get what we want.
[01:24:29.940 --> 01:24:36.260]  It's, it's not as simple as reading this code and said this code and it says you
[01:24:36.260 --> 01:24:38.780]  must do this, therefore you must do that.
[01:24:39.180 --> 01:24:43.820]  And we somehow think that because the code says they must do that, it's going to
[01:24:43.820 --> 01:24:46.940]  happen automatically and good luck with that.
[01:24:47.300 --> 01:24:47.660]  Right.
[01:24:47.740 --> 01:24:49.100]  I used to think that kind of thing.
[01:24:49.900 --> 01:24:56.900]  And so how do we put these public officials into a position to where either they have
[01:24:56.900 --> 01:25:02.820]  no choice or they think that what they're about to do is in their best interest.
[01:25:03.420 --> 01:25:05.140]  It may actually be in their best interest.
[01:25:05.140 --> 01:25:09.220]  It's better if it is, but whether it is or not, if we can get them to think that
[01:25:09.220 --> 01:25:12.940]  then we can, can kind of maneuver them into doing what we want.
[01:25:13.820 --> 01:25:18.140]  And I know this is harder, everybody gets their heads wrapped around, but if we're
[01:25:18.140 --> 01:25:23.780]  going to have it be effective and make powerful change, we need to get past the
[01:25:23.780 --> 01:25:25.820]  simple part and get more sophisticated.
[01:25:26.140 --> 01:25:30.700]  And Mary, I'm going to want you as a resource to help us get there.
[01:25:31.980 --> 01:25:33.340]  Let me say this real quickly.
[01:25:33.340 --> 01:25:39.300]  It's like I'm at this trashed apartment and I'm pretty vocal and I'm pretty
[01:25:39.780 --> 01:25:41.580]  caring and compassionate too.
[01:25:42.180 --> 01:25:45.860]  And so I get beat up a little bit by the HR.
[01:25:46.180 --> 01:25:51.700]  So I decide to use all of our internal formats for complaints and whatnot.
[01:25:51.740 --> 01:25:53.660]  So I go, I learn all of them.
[01:25:54.060 --> 01:25:57.140]  They don't benefit me that much, but guess who it benefits?
[01:25:57.180 --> 01:26:02.300]  My other coworkers who I give advice to all the time because I went ahead and looked
[01:26:02.300 --> 01:26:08.060]  at our sort of internal judicial process on complaints and how all the way up it
[01:26:08.060 --> 01:26:13.940]  goes into other groups and other departments that have civil servant grievance
[01:26:13.940 --> 01:26:20.300]  processes and stuff, and even up to unions, attorneys and other PACs, Workers
[01:26:20.300 --> 01:26:24.300]  Defense Fund, which is mostly communist, but I'm going to start working with them
[01:26:24.300 --> 01:26:25.020]  on these issues.
[01:26:25.540 --> 01:26:30.180]  So I've learned the whole process knowing that I wanted to know the whole process
[01:26:30.300 --> 01:26:33.180]  on some of my Newton fractions I did or didn't do.
[01:26:33.620 --> 01:26:38.540]  And then I've helped face other people's jobs in my own department because I
[01:26:38.580 --> 01:26:46.100]  learned the whole grievance process all the way up to outside PAC alliances.
[01:26:46.620 --> 01:26:49.020]  But of course, with the union and other things.
[01:26:49.220 --> 01:26:53.140]  And then so primarily I've used that to help other people because...
[01:26:53.140 --> 01:26:54.540]  Hey, hang on, hang on.
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[01:30:42.260 --> 01:30:47.700]  Randy Kelson, we're going to talk to Mary in Texas.
[01:30:47.700 --> 01:30:53.020]  Mary, when you came on, I kind of bushwhacked you and took you where I wanted to go.
[01:30:53.020 --> 01:30:56.460]  Did you have something you wanted to address specifically?
[01:30:56.460 --> 01:31:00.620]  Well, I just want to sum up.
[01:31:00.620 --> 01:31:06.500]  Get involved in a PAC and go to their events or start a PAC and have events.
[01:31:06.500 --> 01:31:08.100]  Get involved with your party.
[01:31:08.100 --> 01:31:14.100]  I hope it's Republican, but if it's Democrat, that's fine, because we're all constitutionalists.
[01:31:14.100 --> 01:31:16.740]  Go to your parties.
[01:31:16.740 --> 01:31:21.100]  How do we find PACs?
[01:31:21.100 --> 01:31:27.180]  And then the third one is get, go to a church or start a church in ministry and get involved.
[01:31:27.180 --> 01:31:32.500]  They all require getting involved, taking leadership, becoming a team player.
[01:31:32.500 --> 01:31:35.860]  And anyone listening to the show should probably go ahead and get their law degree.
[01:31:35.860 --> 01:31:40.580]  With PAC information, I'll have to do a little research and come back with you, but this
[01:31:40.580 --> 01:31:46.420]  is, a PAC is basically a, think of a PAC as a political business.
[01:31:46.420 --> 01:31:49.660]  You will have to provide tax information on it.
[01:31:49.660 --> 01:31:55.260]  Think of a PAC as bigger than a nonprofit, and it's a way you can also make money.
[01:31:55.260 --> 01:32:00.460]  You can get involved with campaigns, it's strictly a political type of being.
[01:32:00.460 --> 01:32:05.500]  It's a political being, and who you want on the board are your family and your friends.
[01:32:05.500 --> 01:32:13.100]  You don't want to have all your political rivals or other folks in the game that you
[01:32:13.100 --> 01:32:16.260]  don't know, you know, or if they could be flipped.
[01:32:16.260 --> 01:32:20.940]  You want to have people only that you can trust and your PAC can be a coalition with
[01:32:20.940 --> 01:32:22.420]  other PACs.
[01:32:22.420 --> 01:32:28.060]  People like us need to each have their very own PACs if they're serious, but otherwise,
[01:32:28.060 --> 01:32:30.500]  you know, we're here to help people as well.
[01:32:30.500 --> 01:32:38.360]  And so my question was, Randy, do you know what the FEMA people said in South Carolina
[01:32:38.360 --> 01:32:43.140]  when they were, they said that they were told to not help people who were dying because
[01:32:43.140 --> 01:32:46.940]  they had Trump flags and signs in their yard.
[01:32:46.940 --> 01:32:51.820]  Do you know what they said as their criminal defense?
[01:32:51.820 --> 01:32:53.460]  What did they say is a criminal defense?
[01:32:53.460 --> 01:32:56.460]  I don't know.
[01:32:56.460 --> 01:33:05.500]  They just in that last hurricane or what was it, Brett, and Carolina, like what?
[01:33:05.500 --> 01:33:06.500]  Four months ago?
[01:33:06.500 --> 01:33:11.980]  When all they had a criminal defense, I don't understand the criminal part of it.
[01:33:11.980 --> 01:33:14.180]  What do you mean about that?
[01:33:14.180 --> 01:33:18.980]  Their defense was that they were told to, they were told to ignore people that had Trump
[01:33:18.980 --> 01:33:19.980]  flags.
[01:33:19.980 --> 01:33:20.980]  Oh, wow.
[01:33:20.980 --> 01:33:21.980]  Okay.
[01:33:21.980 --> 01:33:23.940]  That's what they were told.
[01:33:23.940 --> 01:33:28.340]  And so what I'm saying, and I'm somebody who works in a bureaucracy, okay.
[01:33:28.340 --> 01:33:34.700]  And somebody, you know, so what Randy's trying to do with that phone call to the magistrate
[01:33:34.700 --> 01:33:41.700]  is he's trying to redevelop a chain of command because it's very clear to me that the higher
[01:33:42.020 --> 01:33:46.740]  ups know what the lower downs are doing and what they're getting away with.
[01:33:46.740 --> 01:33:51.740]  But as long as they're not involved with the chain of command, they have plausible.
[01:33:51.740 --> 01:33:52.740]  Deniability.
[01:33:52.740 --> 01:33:58.740]  And so, Randy, that's what you're keeping from happening.
[01:33:58.740 --> 01:34:01.820]  They should not have plausible deniability.
[01:34:01.820 --> 01:34:06.380]  Their neglect is transparent that they have no understanding.
[01:34:06.380 --> 01:34:09.020]  They have neglected their position.
[01:34:09.060 --> 01:34:11.140]  A general leads from behind.
[01:34:11.140 --> 01:34:12.780]  That's like a general leads from behind.
[01:34:12.780 --> 01:34:16.780]  If they don't know, they're not managing properly.
[01:34:16.780 --> 01:34:20.180]  So you just want to establish a chain of command again.
[01:34:20.180 --> 01:34:27.420]  Yeah, from my perspective, the way I'm doing this, that's military bearing.
[01:34:27.420 --> 01:34:29.260]  That's the way it works in the military.
[01:34:29.260 --> 01:34:35.260]  I once almost ran over the flight safety officer with my bomb lift truck.
[01:34:35.260 --> 01:34:38.520]  And a whole bunch of super sergeants converged on me.
[01:34:38.520 --> 01:34:41.040]  They were really unhappy.
[01:34:41.040 --> 01:34:47.200]  And my tech sergeant, my next in command, walked up in the middle of these chief and
[01:34:47.200 --> 01:34:53.080]  senior master sergeants, the highest level non-commission officer you could get.
[01:34:53.080 --> 01:34:56.160]  And he wanted to know what the heck is going on here.
[01:34:56.160 --> 01:35:01.760]  And they said, your troop did this, did that, and the other said, I don't care about that.
[01:35:01.760 --> 01:35:08.280]  What are you doing raising your voice to one of my troops?
[01:35:08.280 --> 01:35:14.160]  If you have a problem with my troop, you come to me.
[01:35:14.160 --> 01:35:15.440]  This guy was a tech sergeant.
[01:35:15.440 --> 01:35:18.200]  He was way below them.
[01:35:18.200 --> 01:35:22.040]  But everybody took a giant step back.
[01:35:22.040 --> 01:35:28.240]  And a chief master, the highest rank in NCO you can be, stepped up and said, sergeant,
[01:35:28.240 --> 01:35:30.240]  you're right, we apologize.
[01:35:30.240 --> 01:35:32.240]  We'll take this through the commander.
[01:35:32.240 --> 01:35:34.240]  And they all left.
[01:35:34.240 --> 01:35:40.160]  And I watched this and thought, what in the hell just happened?
[01:35:40.160 --> 01:35:47.080]  He turned to me and he said, I don't know what you did, but don't you ever put me in
[01:35:47.080 --> 01:35:50.880]  a spot like that again.
[01:35:50.880 --> 01:35:59.640]  I put him in a spot to where he had to stand up and protect his subordinates.
[01:35:59.640 --> 01:36:03.640]  All of his subordinates answered to him.
[01:36:03.640 --> 01:36:09.480]  And they answered to nobody else but him.
[01:36:09.480 --> 01:36:13.080]  And he protected them from everybody else.
[01:36:13.080 --> 01:36:16.000]  That's how military bearing works.
[01:36:16.000 --> 01:36:22.480]  So if you're the head of this agency and your people are doing something wrong, I don't
[01:36:22.480 --> 01:36:25.360]  go to your people and complain about it.
[01:36:25.360 --> 01:36:27.680]  I come to you.
[01:36:27.680 --> 01:36:29.240]  This is your job.
[01:36:29.240 --> 01:36:31.680]  You go to them and get them straight.
[01:36:31.680 --> 01:36:34.960]  Does that make sense, Mary?
[01:36:34.960 --> 01:36:42.000]  Yeah, well, there's a chain of command and it's been broken either by the top, it's been
[01:36:42.000 --> 01:36:48.000]  broken because the top has willfully chosen neglect because they know what's going on
[01:36:48.000 --> 01:36:49.000]  is wrong.
[01:36:49.000 --> 01:36:52.120]  They're reestablishing that chain of command.
[01:36:52.120 --> 01:36:57.400]  And I hate to tell everybody, but the Democrat and the Republican Party and any governmental
[01:36:58.320 --> 01:37:00.680]  is part of the military.
[01:37:00.680 --> 01:37:03.960]  Anybody we elect has full military control.
[01:37:03.960 --> 01:37:08.080]  So these organizations are military organizations.
[01:37:08.080 --> 01:37:12.200]  God's church, though, we have to be involved in the church as well because that's where
[01:37:12.200 --> 01:37:14.040]  grace is.
[01:37:14.040 --> 01:37:16.040]  But military uses law.
[01:37:16.040 --> 01:37:17.040]  The church uses grace.
[01:37:17.040 --> 01:37:24.280]  If the church is dead, there will be no healing in the community or for nature.
[01:37:24.280 --> 01:37:32.520]  So I'm now involved in politics, not because I'm just a truther or some loudmouth or somebody
[01:37:32.520 --> 01:37:35.160]  who's upset about things, angry all the time.
[01:37:35.160 --> 01:37:37.400]  I'm coming because I have a duty.
[01:37:37.400 --> 01:37:43.680]  Otherwise, I literally would leave town and go live on a chicken farm because I'm really
[01:37:43.680 --> 01:37:47.080]  kind of confused where things have been the last few years.
[01:37:47.080 --> 01:37:51.280]  And I really, really prayerfully on my knees hope they go right.
[01:37:51.280 --> 01:37:55.680]  And I want to be in the right place, the right time with God's grace.
[01:37:55.680 --> 01:37:56.800]  I think you are.
[01:37:56.800 --> 01:37:58.000]  I think we all are.
[01:37:58.000 --> 01:38:00.280]  I think we've been led to this place.
[01:38:00.280 --> 01:38:09.100]  We are at the point to where I am witnessing the greatest change in my lifetime.
[01:38:09.100 --> 01:38:15.360]  The only thing that comes close to this was Reagan.
[01:38:15.360 --> 01:38:19.160]  Reagan was like this when he came in.
[01:38:19.160 --> 01:38:20.840]  He changed things.
[01:38:20.840 --> 01:38:24.320]  He did essentially what Trump is doing.
[01:38:24.320 --> 01:38:28.880]  He came in and the air traffic controllers were going to strike and he said, you can't
[01:38:28.880 --> 01:38:29.880]  strike.
[01:38:29.880 --> 01:38:31.960]  It's in your contract.
[01:38:31.960 --> 01:38:39.740]  If you strike, you put the whole system, you put everybody who's flying in physical jeopardy.
[01:38:39.740 --> 01:38:41.520]  You're not allowed to by your contract.
[01:38:41.520 --> 01:38:44.360]  Well, we're going to strike if you don't do this that near other.
[01:38:44.360 --> 01:38:49.120]  And he said, if you do, I will fire every one of you.
[01:38:49.120 --> 01:38:50.120]  They struck.
[01:38:50.200 --> 01:38:53.200]  He fired every one of them.
[01:38:53.200 --> 01:38:54.200]  Wow.
[01:38:54.200 --> 01:38:55.800]  He got everybody's attention.
[01:38:55.800 --> 01:39:00.120]  He defeated the Soviet Union.
[01:39:00.120 --> 01:39:02.920]  He was like Trump.
[01:39:02.920 --> 01:39:10.540]  He said, if you don't do what we want you to, we will develop Star Wars.
[01:39:10.540 --> 01:39:17.640]  And the Russians, the higher ups went to their scientists and asked them, can the United
[01:39:17.640 --> 01:39:19.760]  States develop Star Wars?
[01:39:19.760 --> 01:39:25.520]  Satellites, weaponized satellites.
[01:39:25.520 --> 01:39:27.520]  And they said, yes, they can.
[01:39:27.520 --> 01:39:30.760]  They said, can we defend against it?
[01:39:30.760 --> 01:39:34.680]  Yes, we can, but it'll bankrupt us.
[01:39:34.680 --> 01:39:43.040]  Reagan bankrupted the Soviet Union, getting them to try to defend against a weapon system
[01:39:43.040 --> 01:39:48.220]  we never developed.
[01:39:48.220 --> 01:39:50.740]  That was so John Wayne.
[01:39:50.740 --> 01:39:57.780]  And Trump is essentially doing the same thing, but Trump is way over the top, way more than
[01:39:57.780 --> 01:39:58.780]  Reagan was.
[01:39:58.780 --> 01:40:02.860]  Well, and we're graced with the father figure.
[01:40:02.860 --> 01:40:05.980]  Right now, he's really having this grandpa energy.
[01:40:05.980 --> 01:40:08.380]  He's not even yelling at anybody.
[01:40:08.380 --> 01:40:12.500]  And so whatever happens, we need to have PACs established.
[01:40:12.500 --> 01:40:14.940]  We need to have our churches established.
[01:40:14.940 --> 01:40:19.660]  We need to be established in these parties as team players and leaders.
[01:40:19.660 --> 01:40:22.180]  And we need to help guide those parties.
[01:40:22.180 --> 01:40:25.220]  They say where the Christians are, there's restraint.
[01:40:25.220 --> 01:40:32.380]  So we need to see what we can do while we still have a civilization and carry these
[01:40:32.380 --> 01:40:38.700]  strong words of Trump's into these next decades, supporting the Constitution with both parties.
[01:40:38.700 --> 01:40:40.820]  And I'm going to let you get to the next caller.
[01:40:40.820 --> 01:40:42.180]  I'm going to take up all segments.
[01:40:42.180 --> 01:40:43.180]  I'm going to be out.
[01:40:43.180 --> 01:40:44.180]  Good night.
[01:40:44.180 --> 01:40:45.180]  Thank you, Mary.
[01:40:45.180 --> 01:40:46.900]  You need to come around.
[01:40:46.900 --> 01:40:48.900]  Thanks for calling.
[01:40:48.900 --> 01:40:54.780]  Okay, we are going to our sponsors, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Wheel of Life Radio.
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[01:43:04.760 --> 01:43:09.080]  Well, you know karma is lurking around the corner.
[01:43:09.080 --> 01:43:16.680]  You better watch every step you take, and you didn't put me to follow you.
[01:43:16.680 --> 01:43:19.160]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:43:19.160 --> 01:43:26.760]  Yeah, baby Jerry, sing reality.
[01:43:26.760 --> 01:43:29.720]  Okay, karma is lurking around the corner.
[01:43:29.720 --> 01:43:31.320]  Sing, Jerry, come on.
[01:43:31.320 --> 01:43:38.920]  As we sow, so shall we reap.
[01:43:38.920 --> 01:43:46.120]  So many crucial works yet put on, oh, while we see.
[01:43:46.120 --> 01:43:55.000]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio on this Friday, the seventh
[01:43:55.000 --> 01:44:02.920]  day of February 2025, and we're going to Chris in Colorado.
[01:44:02.920 --> 01:44:05.560]  Chris, what do you have for us today?
[01:44:07.400 --> 01:44:09.960]  Hey, gentlemen, I have a quick question, hopefully.
[01:44:11.480 --> 01:44:14.680]  Oh, no, no, no, we've only got two callers.
[01:44:16.120 --> 01:44:17.400]  No quick questions.
[01:44:18.920 --> 01:44:20.840]  Okay, and I'll speak really slowly.
[01:44:21.560 --> 01:44:29.160]  Okay, I thought about what you had said in the recent past about, I think it was Jefferson,
[01:44:30.040 --> 01:44:34.280]  and that the remedy for bad law is a jury, essentially.
[01:44:34.280 --> 01:44:41.000]  Thomas Jefferson, remedy for, the best remedy for bad law is a jury who will not enforce bad law.
[01:44:41.560 --> 01:44:46.440]  If the jury will not enforce bad law, the legislature will have to change it.
[01:44:46.440 --> 01:44:56.440]  Okay, so I'm hearing a reoccurring theme, and last night I heard Ted talk, and I tried
[01:44:56.440 --> 01:45:01.000]  to call in to throw in a couple of cents, but it was at the last minute.
[01:45:01.000 --> 01:45:05.080]  And this is my concern.
[01:45:05.080 --> 01:45:11.800]  So our whole goal, and I'm starting to understand it on a deeper level, is to just set the record
[01:45:11.800 --> 01:45:14.120]  straight for, set the record for appeal.
[01:45:15.080 --> 01:45:19.240]  But the interesting thing is, is that in my case, and it sounds like Ted,
[01:45:19.880 --> 01:45:25.000]  we were never allowed to actually affect the record in the appropriate way.
[01:45:25.960 --> 01:45:32.440]  So we get to the appeal process, and then, of course, the defense, they raise this thing that
[01:45:34.200 --> 01:45:40.360]  it goes through some of the case law that says, well, if you didn't argue it in the trial court,
[01:45:40.360 --> 01:45:41.880]  then you can't bring it up in appeal.
[01:45:42.760 --> 01:45:45.640]  But I found case law that doesn't support that.
[01:45:47.240 --> 01:45:52.040]  I found, actually, several case references, and I used them. That was a huge section of mine.
[01:45:53.000 --> 01:45:55.720]  And- Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
[01:45:56.440 --> 01:46:03.720]  Just started my plagiarist, Spidey census tingling.
[01:46:06.360 --> 01:46:08.200]  Are you on our Telegram channel?
[01:46:09.720 --> 01:46:10.440]  I am, yeah.
[01:46:11.400 --> 01:46:14.040]  Can you drop your research into Telegram?
[01:46:15.480 --> 01:46:15.980]  Sure.
[01:46:17.160 --> 01:46:18.360]  Very much like to see that.
[01:46:19.560 --> 01:46:23.800]  Okay. And it basically just talked about due process, that, you know,
[01:46:23.800 --> 01:46:29.160]  it would be an injustice to not have discretion. So all the cases that I found,
[01:46:29.160 --> 01:46:33.880]  I think there was about four, maybe five, that said the appellate court has great discretion
[01:46:34.440 --> 01:46:39.720]  to not only consider the facts, but also consider new points brought up.
[01:46:41.560 --> 01:46:45.400]  And it wasn't just related to the original facts. It was actually new arguments that were
[01:46:46.600 --> 01:46:53.560]  supportive or relevant. So this is what I'm finding. I think you've talked about this.
[01:46:53.560 --> 01:46:59.560]  You can find an argument in almost any direction, which can be good, and it can be a pain in the
[01:46:59.560 --> 01:47:07.800]  butt, right? But what I'm, my question here is, how do we get to a jury when bad law is being
[01:47:08.360 --> 01:47:11.560]  supported by the lower court, just because that's what they're used to doing?
[01:47:12.520 --> 01:47:17.960]  And let's say we get to a biased jury who doesn't, I mean, to a biased appellate court
[01:47:17.960 --> 01:47:21.720]  who doesn't want to hear it. How do we get to a jury to actually-
[01:47:21.720 --> 01:47:28.360]  Okay. Perfect question. Perfect question. And that's what I'm working on right now.
[01:47:30.040 --> 01:47:35.800]  The Fifth Circuit dismissed my case with prejudice,
[01:47:36.920 --> 01:47:42.040]  with one statement said, one sentence said this case is frivolous, dismissed with prejudice.
[01:47:43.640 --> 01:47:53.160]  So I felt like the Fifth Circuit failed to properly apply the law to the facts and in the
[01:47:53.160 --> 01:47:59.800]  process denied me in the full and free access to or enjoyment of my right to petition the
[01:47:59.800 --> 01:48:13.320]  court to redress of grievance. That's a crime in the Fed. 18 U.S. Code, well, it was my opinion
[01:48:13.880 --> 01:48:23.960]  that because the Fifth Circuit accepted the ruling to trial judge who accepted the
[01:48:24.760 --> 01:48:32.360]  brief by the magistrate, it was my opinion that the Fifth Circuit, the trial judge,
[01:48:32.360 --> 01:48:40.200]  and the magistrate conspired to deny me due process. That's a criminal act.
[01:48:40.680 --> 01:48:47.400]  And they worked one with the other toward that purpose, and that's a violation of 18 U.S. Code
[01:48:47.400 --> 01:48:58.920]  241. That's a crime. So why aren't we taking these judges to task criminally?
[01:49:01.640 --> 01:49:08.760]  Nobody does that. We have two forms of remedy against public officials and we need to start
[01:49:08.920 --> 01:49:14.920]  using them. When I filed criminal charges against the chief justice,
[01:49:16.360 --> 01:49:21.640]  I actually, I filed criminal charges against the governor with him. He ignored him.
[01:49:21.640 --> 01:49:27.400]  So I filed criminal charges against him. It's a presiding judge of the Court of Criminal Appeals.
[01:49:27.400 --> 01:49:33.160]  We have two high courts in Texas, Supreme for civil, Court of Criminal Appeals for criminal.
[01:49:33.720 --> 01:49:37.000]  When the chief justice refused to issue warrants against the governor,
[01:49:38.120 --> 01:49:43.400]  I filed against the chief justice, the presiding judge of the Court of Criminal Appeals,
[01:49:44.200 --> 01:49:50.120]  all the highest judges, I'm engaging them. And she didn't act on the criminal complaints.
[01:49:51.400 --> 01:49:59.880]  Then I sued them all. Right now, I'm filing against the Fifth Circuit
[01:50:00.280 --> 01:50:11.800]  judges, accusing them of conspiring with the trial judge and the magistrate to deny pro se
[01:50:11.800 --> 01:50:16.520]  litigants in their right to petition the court for redress agreements. I'm filing a criminal
[01:50:16.520 --> 01:50:24.600]  charge with the U.S. attorney, the local U.S. attorney here in Fort Worth. I'm going to file
[01:50:24.600 --> 01:50:27.720]  with the grand jury and I'm going to get the U.S. attorney to block.
[01:50:29.880 --> 01:50:35.880]  And then I filed criminal charges against the U.S. attorney for shielding these judges from
[01:50:35.880 --> 01:50:44.920]  prosecution. And I filed that in D.C. with the new attorney general alleging misprision of felony.
[01:50:47.480 --> 01:50:54.040]  This is a big deal. This U.S. attorney, he's just had to render his resignation
[01:50:54.600 --> 01:51:02.440]  to the incoming president. The incoming president can toss him out of office
[01:51:03.240 --> 01:51:06.360]  and he doesn't have to have any good reason just that he wants to.
[01:51:08.200 --> 01:51:14.600]  So I asked the U.S. attorney general to arrest this U.S. attorney.
[01:51:17.080 --> 01:51:21.800]  I don't care if I get him arrested or not. I got your attention.
[01:51:21.800 --> 01:51:29.720]  And I asked the U.S. attorney to file criminal charges against the,
[01:51:31.240 --> 01:51:36.600]  ask the attorney general to file against the U.S. attorney because the U.S. attorney didn't give
[01:51:36.600 --> 01:51:45.240]  my complaints against the Fifth Circuit judges to the grand jury. So she's going to be looking at
[01:51:45.240 --> 01:51:55.000]  that. And if she doesn't do what I want her to do, then I'll take her to a grand jury.
[01:51:57.000 --> 01:52:03.400]  Nobody wants to be sit before a grand jury. I just talked to the local county judge here in
[01:52:03.400 --> 01:52:09.720]  Wise County with whom I have a very good relationship. And he says about grand juries,
[01:52:10.280 --> 01:52:15.240]  you never know what they're going to do. They're always a crap shoot.
[01:52:17.880 --> 01:52:23.160]  That's perfect. We don't care if we get them indicted or not.
[01:52:24.840 --> 01:52:26.920]  But who wants to play Russian roulette?
[01:52:29.640 --> 01:52:36.040]  I presented the district attorney in Randall County to a grand jury once. They no-billed him.
[01:52:36.040 --> 01:52:45.400]  Eight years later, someone tried to file something with the county clerk.
[01:52:47.400 --> 01:52:54.920]  And I sued the district attorney for blocking, for dismissing criminal complaints against public
[01:52:54.920 --> 01:53:02.040]  officials. So the guy that told me this eight years later, the grand jury no-billed the district
[01:53:02.040 --> 01:53:07.880]  attorney. But they called me in and I personally presented him to them.
[01:53:08.680 --> 01:53:15.720]  And the forming of the grand jury was just livid. Mr. Kelton, what do you have against
[01:53:15.720 --> 01:53:21.480]  the district attorney? I don't have anything against him. He never prosecuted me, never
[01:53:21.480 --> 01:53:29.160]  prosecuted anybody I know. I don't have anything against him at all. He said, then why are you here?
[01:53:29.160 --> 01:53:39.320]  Well, he violated law, but I don't want him indicted. And if Foreman's getting frustrated,
[01:53:39.320 --> 01:53:45.720]  well, then Mr. Kelton, why are you here? Because I'm here and he's sitting out there
[01:53:47.000 --> 01:53:52.280]  wondering if I'm going to end his career tomorrow. That's all I need.
[01:53:52.280 --> 01:54:00.280]  And they no-billed him. Eight years later, I tell this guy, well, if the clerk wouldn't
[01:54:00.280 --> 01:54:04.920]  let you file these documents, go file criminal charges against you with the sheriff.
[01:54:04.920 --> 01:54:14.600]  And he did. And the sheriff sent out a lieutenant to talk to him. And it was like three in the
[01:54:14.600 --> 01:54:19.880]  evening. He said, sir, are you in a hurry? He said, no, I'm not. Well, I'm going to go to the
[01:54:19.880 --> 01:54:25.320]  clerk's office and I'll be right back. He leaves about an hour later, he comes back.
[01:54:26.280 --> 01:54:30.600]  And he said, the clerk said, if you could come down in the morning,
[01:54:31.640 --> 01:54:36.360]  that they will file your complaints that they made a mistake and they were sorry,
[01:54:36.360 --> 01:54:46.040]  and they would get your complaints filed. No BS. The prosecutor told him, if somebody files
[01:54:46.040 --> 01:54:50.120]  a complaint against a public official, you don't screw around with it.
[01:54:51.880 --> 01:54:57.720]  I'm not going to be put in front of a grand jury again. This really works.
[01:54:59.480 --> 01:55:04.520]  Grand juries are incredibly powerful, not because we get anybody indicted,
[01:55:06.440 --> 01:55:13.160]  but just by the prospect of the possibility of getting indicted. Does that make sense?
[01:55:13.160 --> 01:55:21.880]  Or did I get off track? How do we get this? Oh, you don't have to get there. Just go down there
[01:55:21.880 --> 01:55:29.240]  and make grand jury noises. And I'm going to go down and get the U.S. attorney to block me from
[01:55:29.240 --> 01:55:36.280]  the grand jury. Oh, goody goody. Then I get to drag the U.S. attorney to the attorney general in
[01:55:36.280 --> 01:55:44.840]  D.C. and ask her to indict him. Now, he's worried about either getting indicted or getting fired.
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[01:57:57.160 --> 01:58:03.080]  P for press, another P for petition, A for assembly, and R for religion. Most Americans
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[01:58:07.880 --> 01:58:12.040]  But petition for redress is another matter. We have the right to petition the government
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[01:58:30.600 --> 01:58:34.920]  The Bill of Rights contains the first 10 amendments of our Constitution. They guarantee
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[01:59:41.000 --> 01:59:45.960]  guarantee against arbitrary government, one more safeguard against the tyranny, which now appears
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[02:00:05.960 --> 02:00:19.320]  Well, I received my remedy today.
[02:00:21.000 --> 02:00:30.760]  Came in the box, just like they say. I accepted it for value right away, if not sooner, not later.
[02:00:31.640 --> 02:00:37.640]  We are originators, and the pathway seems to get straighter every day.
[02:00:39.320 --> 02:00:44.840]  And I can take anything that belongs to me and put it to good use.
[02:00:46.360 --> 02:00:51.560]  What I was good for, the gander, was gonna work for the goose.
[02:00:53.880 --> 02:00:59.560]  I know some architects. I know some engineers.
[02:01:01.160 --> 02:01:07.240]  They've seen the evidence. They know something seems queer.
[02:01:07.240 --> 02:01:13.640]  Okay, we are back. Grant Council Brett Fountain, Root of Love Radio on this Friday,
[02:01:14.600 --> 02:01:24.280]  the seventh day of February 2025. And we're talking to Chris in Colorado.
[02:01:24.520 --> 02:01:29.560]  Okay, Chris, I have to be careful. Sometimes when I have an agenda,
[02:01:31.320 --> 02:01:41.400]  I tend to push everything toward my agenda. And right now, I'm pretty excited about the way things
[02:01:41.400 --> 02:01:50.200]  are going. There's a lot of politics going on, and I talk about everything at the end of the day is
[02:01:50.200 --> 02:01:55.880]  political. And this is probably the most political time in my lifetime.
[02:01:57.880 --> 02:02:02.840]  And after 30 years of working toward an outcome, I think we're getting close to it.
[02:02:02.840 --> 02:02:11.080]  And one of it takes a change in mindset. This whole thing about us being the sovereigns
[02:02:12.680 --> 02:02:19.880]  and it being our duty to control the governmental instruments that we have created.
[02:02:20.200 --> 02:02:27.560]  And we have tools to do that with. And in my opinion, one of the most powerful tools is a grand jury.
[02:02:29.720 --> 02:02:36.040]  I don't ever care if I actually get before a grand jury. That's not the important part.
[02:02:38.200 --> 02:02:44.680]  Important part is our public officials having to deal with the possibility
[02:02:45.640 --> 02:02:51.720]  of me getting before a grand jury. Just making grand jury noises.
[02:02:55.080 --> 02:03:04.520]  So that's what I'm suggesting that we don't necessarily only think in terms of civil remedies.
[02:03:06.920 --> 02:03:12.360]  Start using the criminal remedies to get us the civil remedy that we want. Am I making sense?
[02:03:14.680 --> 02:03:24.280]  Hold on. Okay. Somebody did not unmute Chris. There we go. Go ahead, Chris. I'm sorry we didn't
[02:03:24.280 --> 02:03:31.000]  have you unmuted. I'm all about during a politics, but I'm also all about implying
[02:03:33.080 --> 02:03:37.880]  making a threat. Like let's imply that you're going to get pressure one way or the other if
[02:03:37.880 --> 02:03:42.760]  you don't do what you're required to do. But I'm also getting to the point that
[02:03:43.720 --> 02:03:48.680]  I want to go past the settlement conference. I know I've only done one, but I want to go through
[02:03:48.680 --> 02:03:54.040]  a summary judgment. I want to get to trial. I want the court to fail because that's what they're very
[02:03:54.040 --> 02:04:00.920]  good at. And then I want the higher courts to make a ruling that starts to tip the scale the other way.
[02:04:00.920 --> 02:04:07.560]  Now, from what I'm looking at, by the way, I posted those four quotes in Telegram for the appellate
[02:04:07.560 --> 02:04:12.280]  discretion. And I tagged you and Brett and everyone actually.
[02:04:15.160 --> 02:04:22.200]  This is not a new topic. Apparently there was justice at one time. I don't know. So these cases,
[02:04:22.200 --> 02:04:27.720]  three of these cases are Supreme Court cases. And the first one that goes back as far as 1936
[02:04:28.520 --> 02:04:33.960]  and then 1941, then 1976, and then I have an eighth circuit in there from 1991. They basically
[02:04:33.960 --> 02:04:40.680]  all say that the courts can consider new topics, but they also have great discretion to address
[02:04:40.680 --> 02:04:49.880]  things that may be procedurally strict on the lower levels. So I guess what I'm after is what's
[02:04:49.880 --> 02:04:54.920]  going to be the best approach? Should I go through the normal channels and hope that I get before a
[02:04:54.920 --> 02:05:05.080]  jury and try to sway the jury into considering the unfair and lack of due process that some of
[02:05:05.080 --> 02:05:11.320]  these procedures are, the barriers that these procedures are causing for the average lay person,
[02:05:11.320 --> 02:05:19.240]  or do I go to the grand jury and actually get them to hear reason and start to leverage their power?
[02:05:20.360 --> 02:05:24.680]  Because I don't know what else it's going to take. I think at some point we're going to back them
[02:05:24.680 --> 02:05:31.160]  into a corner. I think the scales are changing. I think the amount of force and power that we have
[02:05:31.160 --> 02:05:37.800]  is growing. And at some point we're going to come to a line and who's going to give? And I think
[02:05:37.800 --> 02:05:44.680]  I want it to be them because they're the ones that need to shift. We're the ones who are changing
[02:05:45.240 --> 02:05:52.440]  at a pretty rapid rate. So that's what I'm trying to figure out this jury thing. What is the most
[02:05:52.440 --> 02:05:57.640]  effective way to get there and which is the most effective jury? It sounds like you're angling
[02:05:57.640 --> 02:06:07.080]  towards the grand jury, but I've never even, I don't even know where to go in Colorado to talk
[02:06:07.080 --> 02:06:14.040]  to them. I just go to US attorney. I don't really care if I ever get in front of a grand jury.
[02:06:15.080 --> 02:06:17.880]  The power is making grand jury noises.
[02:06:17.880 --> 02:06:24.040]  Nobody wants to be put in front of a grand jury. I've just talked to my county attorney,
[02:06:24.040 --> 02:06:31.160]  I mean, county judge a couple of days ago, and about having policemen
[02:06:32.200 --> 02:06:39.160]  take people directly to the magistrate for an examining trial and ask him if he would have a
[02:06:39.240 --> 02:06:51.880]  problem with it. Absolutely not. So he liked the idea and I asked him about the grand juries
[02:06:52.840 --> 02:06:59.240]  and would you have a problem with taking people to a grand jury? He said, oh, absolutely not.
[02:07:00.200 --> 02:07:08.840]  I mentioned to him that in Texas, the constitution requires an indictment in a misdemeanor, but
[02:07:09.160 --> 02:07:14.280]  nobody does that. I said, but you have a problem with that? Oh, absolutely not.
[02:07:15.080 --> 02:07:19.400]  Said, I get these policemen bring me these cases and they're just garbage.
[02:07:20.600 --> 02:07:24.920]  And if I try to tell them that they're garbage, then the police get upset at me
[02:07:26.280 --> 02:07:32.840]  just thinking I don't want to prosecute their cases. So if I had a grand jury I could send them to,
[02:07:33.480 --> 02:07:36.360]  then I could tell them, blame it on the grand jury, don't blame it on me.
[02:07:39.160 --> 02:07:43.720]  One good thing about cultivating a relationship with some public officials
[02:07:45.160 --> 02:07:50.360]  is they will give you tools. They'll tell you how to talk to public officials.
[02:07:52.200 --> 02:07:58.760]  So now I go to county attorneys and I say, if the policeman had to
[02:07:59.640 --> 02:08:02.840]  contact a magistrate every time he arrested someone,
[02:08:02.840 --> 02:08:10.040]  if he arrested someone for some garbage case, well, the magistrate would just toss it and I
[02:08:10.040 --> 02:08:17.000]  won't have to deal with it. Okay, I'm kind of getting off point. This is something that
[02:08:17.000 --> 02:08:25.560]  I found very interesting is that the judge, when he was talking about when he was a prosecutor,
[02:08:26.120 --> 02:08:31.080]  how this would have been to great advantage for him, the grand juries would.
[02:08:31.080 --> 02:08:37.800]  And I'm thinking about grand juries as if when you're dealing with public officials or even judges,
[02:08:38.760 --> 02:08:45.080]  just the idea of being presented to a grand jury is scary.
[02:08:46.600 --> 02:08:56.600]  Because they all know a grand jury is a crap shoot. These are lay people, they don't know squat.
[02:08:57.320 --> 02:09:03.400]  And if a prosecutor comes in and presents a sophisticated case
[02:09:03.400 --> 02:09:06.680]  to the grand jury, they're not gonna really understand anything.
[02:09:09.880 --> 02:09:11.800]  So there's no telling what they will do.
[02:09:14.840 --> 02:09:16.600]  And that's the best thing I could hear.
[02:09:19.080 --> 02:09:24.360]  It's not about getting somebody indicted. It's about making public officials afraid of being
[02:09:24.360 --> 02:09:29.080]  indicted by this grand jury doesn't know what they're doing or talking about.
[02:09:30.200 --> 02:09:35.800]  It keeps these public officials from acting inappropriately. Am I making sense?
[02:09:37.560 --> 02:09:42.200]  Yeah, again, I'm happy to do that. I just wanna actually see somebody get indicted.
[02:09:43.320 --> 02:09:47.000]  Yeah, me too. And have Pastor Massad, he always picks on me about that.
[02:09:47.640 --> 02:09:50.520]  You've been doing this all this time and you haven't got anybody arrested.
[02:09:51.240 --> 02:09:56.440]  I said, I know, but getting somebody arrested is not my primary purpose. My
[02:09:57.080 --> 02:10:05.800]  primary purpose is changing the system. And how best can I change the system?
[02:10:08.200 --> 02:10:11.080]  If I were getting public officials indicted,
[02:10:12.280 --> 02:10:17.880]  they're likely to run to their legislators and say, oh, this is horrible. We can't work
[02:10:17.960 --> 02:10:24.600]  under these conditions. You need to get the law changed. And if they change the law,
[02:10:24.600 --> 02:10:31.080]  then they block me. So I don't really care. The law doesn't need to be changed. It needs
[02:10:31.080 --> 02:10:36.360]  to be followed. Yeah, it doesn't need to be. But when you start messing with public officials,
[02:10:36.360 --> 02:10:40.680]  they're gonna wanna change to protect them. And I don't want that to happen.
[02:10:41.320 --> 02:10:48.200]  So I don't care if they actually get indicted. It is the specter of indictment.
[02:10:50.280 --> 02:10:58.760]  That's my most powerful tool. The fear that they might get indicted will keep them from
[02:10:58.760 --> 02:11:04.360]  doing stupid stuff that would cause me to try to get them indicted in the first place.
[02:11:04.360 --> 02:11:15.560]  And I see that all the time. These guys are terrified of the system. So the problem is,
[02:11:15.560 --> 02:11:24.600]  we haven't been using it. And it's about perspective. I use the grand jury as a cudgel
[02:11:25.480 --> 02:11:31.080]  to club them over the head with. And if I can get them to abuse the grand jury,
[02:11:31.480 --> 02:11:37.880]  I get to jump up and down real and righteous indignation at the inequity of it all.
[02:11:37.880 --> 02:11:43.320]  I'm gonna get you all thrown in prison, blah, blah, blah. I don't wanna get them thrown in prison.
[02:11:45.880 --> 02:11:53.160]  It's like my daddy's mule that every time he had hook it up, he couldn't get it to do anything
[02:11:53.160 --> 02:11:58.760]  till he picked up a two before and hit it behind the ear. He wasn't abusing the mule.
[02:11:58.760 --> 02:12:07.320]  He was just getting his attention. And grand juries and criminal complaints,
[02:12:07.320 --> 02:12:14.920]  they are excellent tools for getting their attention. They're making sense.
[02:12:18.200 --> 02:12:27.480]  Strategy-wise, you don't care if they indict. You just make the criminal complaint
[02:12:28.280 --> 02:12:33.400]  to tighten their anal sphincter muscle and give them reason to take a step back
[02:12:34.840 --> 02:12:39.080]  and not feel like they can roll over this pro se like a freight train.
[02:12:41.800 --> 02:12:47.480]  It would be easier for us to pay attention and give this guy a good ruling
[02:12:48.840 --> 02:12:52.600]  than to screw around with him and have him attack us. Am I making sense, Chris?
[02:12:52.600 --> 02:13:01.880]  Yeah, I'm going to, maybe if I'm forced to, I'm gonna start using these tactics. I mean,
[02:13:01.880 --> 02:13:03.960]  I'm gonna get everybody's attention at some point.
[02:13:04.680 --> 02:13:09.480]  Wait a minute, wait a minute. Hold on, no, no. You said, maybe if I'm forced to.
[02:13:10.440 --> 02:13:21.080]  No, no, no, no. This is a tactic. This is a strategic tool. Forced to, I go down there and
[02:13:21.080 --> 02:13:29.960]  try to get them to give me some reason so that I can jump up and down rail and register indignation,
[02:13:29.960 --> 02:13:33.560]  take out my cell phone and demand that somebody come down here and arrest him
[02:13:33.560 --> 02:13:37.160]  and just stomp my feet and raise cane. I don't want the guy arrested.
[02:13:38.840 --> 02:13:45.800]  I just want his attention. I want him to think I'm the most unreasonable,
[02:13:46.600 --> 02:13:53.320]  no good scoundrel they ever come across. I want him to not do bad things in the first place.
[02:13:56.520 --> 02:13:57.800]  Hang on, we'll be right back.
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[02:16:12.200 --> 02:16:16.360]  Well, don't let nothing get to you. Only the father can deliver you.
[02:16:17.160 --> 02:16:22.040]  So don't let bad-mind people hurt you. And tell Satan get behind you.
[02:16:23.640 --> 02:16:27.720]  Norman, my friend, knowledge of children.
[02:16:41.560 --> 02:16:43.720]  My friend.
[02:16:52.120 --> 02:16:57.320]  He is everything. He's everything to me. That's why I call him.
[02:17:00.840 --> 02:17:03.160]  Because he's the only one who could answer him.
[02:17:03.960 --> 02:17:09.560]  Been a business, what wicked man's saying. Mankind, you know, is this leading the kind of
[02:17:09.560 --> 02:17:17.240]  trust in God, my friend. Tell him your problems, Dave. I'll read them once again.
[02:17:21.240 --> 02:17:25.880]  Trust in God, my friend. Tell him your problems, Dave.
[02:17:25.880 --> 02:17:33.480]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Bret Fountain Rule of Law Radio. We're talking to Chris in
[02:17:33.480 --> 02:17:42.840]  Colorado. Chris, I'm hoping something I'm trying to get across. Grand juries are like playing
[02:17:42.840 --> 02:17:49.720]  Russian roulette. So if I take a public official and I shake him in front of the grand jury,
[02:17:50.920 --> 02:17:55.480]  I'm going to scare the crap out of him. Whether I get him indicted or not,
[02:17:56.360 --> 02:18:03.960]  not so important is I get his attention and get him to be more careful so that he don't wind up
[02:18:03.960 --> 02:18:08.920]  with this jackass Randy Kelton pulling this nonsense on him again. Does that make sense?
[02:18:10.760 --> 02:18:11.260]  Yes.
[02:18:13.160 --> 02:18:14.920]  Criminal complaints are just a tool.
[02:18:18.600 --> 02:18:20.280]  Sophisticated screwdriver.
[02:18:20.280 --> 02:18:26.440]  Is the grand jury only for criminal?
[02:18:27.560 --> 02:18:28.060]  Yes.
[02:18:29.800 --> 02:18:30.300]  Okay.
[02:18:31.480 --> 02:18:40.600]  Except in California, grand juries are given authorization to examine into all kinds of things,
[02:18:41.240 --> 02:18:49.720]  utility projects and all the political type stuff. But most states don't have that.
[02:18:49.720 --> 02:18:56.280]  And the Fed doesn't have that. Generally, a grand jury only goes to criminal prosecutions.
[02:18:57.960 --> 02:19:01.320]  And they were put in there for one reason and one reason only.
[02:19:03.000 --> 02:19:06.440]  To protect the public from prosecuting attorneys.
[02:19:08.760 --> 02:19:12.280]  Prosecuting attorneys in their zeal to get a conviction
[02:19:12.440 --> 02:19:20.120]  will alter their purposes. I'm trying to remember exactly what that case law says,
[02:19:20.120 --> 02:19:28.120]  but that came from some case law. That prosecutors, it's their job to prosecute.
[02:19:29.960 --> 02:19:37.240]  So they lean toward prosecution. We can't have a prosecutor determining whether or not to prosecute.
[02:19:37.480 --> 02:19:41.640]  Now, they're the ones that has to do the prosecution. So they feel like since they're
[02:19:41.640 --> 02:19:48.680]  learned counsel, they should be the one to make that decision. But our founders said, bad, bad idea.
[02:19:50.120 --> 02:20:02.200]  Absolutely not. We're gonna put together a group of people, just ordinary citizens,
[02:20:02.200 --> 02:20:09.160]  to hear these complaints. Because they tend not to have a hidden agenda.
[02:20:11.320 --> 02:20:18.920]  Turned out, although the idea of grand juries is great, the reality is not so great.
[02:20:20.600 --> 02:20:29.000]  But we use them as a way to threaten these guys. I mean, who wants to play Russian roulette with
[02:20:29.000 --> 02:20:39.080]  your liberty or your career? And what the prosecutor told me when he said, those grand,
[02:20:39.080 --> 02:20:45.400]  darn grand jurors, you never know what they're gonna do. For me, that was perfect.
[02:20:47.240 --> 02:20:51.480]  Even if they never indict. Chris, you got all these public officials,
[02:20:52.360 --> 02:20:58.680]  and they appear to be acting in violation of law and the right of things.
[02:20:59.000 --> 02:21:06.280]  Take them to grand jury. Make them dance on the head of that pen.
[02:21:08.600 --> 02:21:12.920]  Because you never know what they're gonna do. You don't think they'll indict you because you're a
[02:21:12.920 --> 02:21:19.800]  high level public official. But that doesn't mean there is not a grand jury member on there
[02:21:20.360 --> 02:21:24.920]  who's been screwed around like this, who's gonna pay you back.
[02:21:24.920 --> 02:21:35.880]  So I'm saying use Pettit and grand juries to your great effect. Grand juries more so than Pettit
[02:21:35.880 --> 02:21:43.800]  jurors. Because just the mere allegation of wrongdoing gets you to the grand jury.
[02:21:43.800 --> 02:21:48.200]  You don't have to have all the facts. It doesn't even have to be true.
[02:21:49.080 --> 02:21:57.240]  It's as long as your facts are correct, you can use that to apply pressure, political pressure.
[02:21:58.920 --> 02:22:03.640]  And from my experience, it is really powerful. Okay, go ahead, Chris.
[02:22:04.680 --> 02:22:06.360]  What was the other one you said, Pettit jury?
[02:22:07.480 --> 02:22:09.480]  Pettit jury is a trial jury.
[02:22:10.600 --> 02:22:12.120]  Okay, okay, sorry.
[02:22:12.120 --> 02:22:13.960]  As opposed to a grand jury.
[02:22:14.920 --> 02:22:24.040]  Okay. So I'm warming up. I mean, again, when I'm forced to, then I will be more in the
[02:22:24.040 --> 02:22:30.520]  realm that you're going after, which is actual individual officials. I'm right now going after
[02:22:30.520 --> 02:22:37.800]  the policies and the laws themselves, or I should say, the way the laws are being interpreted by the
[02:22:37.880 --> 02:22:42.120]  lower courts, which they're turning into policies and practices.
[02:22:42.120 --> 02:22:49.000]  Yeah, all I'm speaking to is not, it's not something that you're doing in your case.
[02:22:50.280 --> 02:22:57.320]  It's an overriding strategy of how you watch your case. It's a tool in your toolbox.
[02:22:58.440 --> 02:23:06.360]  I never want anybody indicted. Last thing I want to do is ruin a public official's career.
[02:23:06.360 --> 02:23:10.840]  I had a bailiff drag me out of the courthouse, shoved me down the stairs and broke my elbow.
[02:23:12.760 --> 02:23:14.520]  I did not go after him.
[02:23:17.480 --> 02:23:21.320]  Yeah, he shouldn't have pushed me, but he just gave me a tiny little push,
[02:23:22.120 --> 02:23:26.200]  just as my foot landed on a carpet they had there to clean your feet with.
[02:23:26.840 --> 02:23:30.360]  And the push was just enough to cause that carpet to scoot,
[02:23:31.320 --> 02:23:37.160]  causing my feet to come out from me and me fall backwards. He did not mean to do that.
[02:23:38.920 --> 02:23:43.160]  And I could have went after him for it. I'd have had him dead bang,
[02:23:44.600 --> 02:23:49.480]  but I would have ruined a 30-year career. I'd have probably cost him his pension.
[02:23:51.880 --> 02:23:59.560]  And I had put him over the edge. So I don't want to ruin these guys' career.
[02:24:01.320 --> 02:24:07.560]  And several years later, I was in the court and I was giving the judge a hard time. The judge said,
[02:24:07.560 --> 02:24:14.040]  Mr. Bailiff, arrest this man. And Dick, the one that broke my elbow, he was the head bailiff.
[02:24:14.680 --> 02:24:23.800]  He took a giant step backwards. I said, no. Mr. Kelton was right. I'm not arresting him.
[02:24:23.800 --> 02:24:28.520]  And the sergeant stepped up, put his hand on my shoulder. And because he did,
[02:24:28.520 --> 02:24:31.720]  I charged the judge with first-degree felony aggravated assault.
[02:24:33.400 --> 02:24:41.080]  But I don't want to ruin anybody's career. I don't want to even harm anybody.
[02:24:42.840 --> 02:24:50.120]  But criminal complaints are a great tool just for getting their attention.
[02:24:51.000 --> 02:24:59.080]  I come in, they do something crappy, like the bailiff. If he hadn't have
[02:24:59.080 --> 02:25:03.240]  knocked me down and broke my elbow, I would have filed criminal charges against him
[02:25:05.240 --> 02:25:07.080]  just for throwing me out of the courthouse.
[02:25:09.160 --> 02:25:13.800]  Nobody's going to convict him for throwing me out of the courthouse.
[02:25:14.760 --> 02:25:21.240]  They'll tell him, you got to cut that stuff out. And they would have embarrassed him
[02:25:22.040 --> 02:25:27.320]  and give him reason not to do that again. And that's what I want to do.
[02:25:27.880 --> 02:25:34.760]  Whenever I'm doing a civil trial, the one thing they don't get is, especially public officials,
[02:25:36.040 --> 02:25:38.840]  is the criminal law follows what they're doing.
[02:25:39.640 --> 02:25:44.680]  If they're a public official, and they don't perform a duty they're required to perform,
[02:25:44.680 --> 02:25:49.560]  well, that's a crime. So I want to use it against them.
[02:25:51.560 --> 02:25:55.480]  I go in to the judge, and I give him a criminal complaint against a public official,
[02:25:56.200 --> 02:26:03.080]  and he refuses to issue a warrant. Gotcha. I asked the bailiff to arrest him.
[02:26:03.480 --> 02:26:10.760]  I asked the bailiff to arrest him. Every time I've done that to a judge in court, he was
[02:26:11.800 --> 02:26:21.000]  mortified. They were horribly embarrassed by that. They are not used to a citizen in a republic
[02:26:21.640 --> 02:26:26.120]  demanding that they do the job the way the law commands them to do.
[02:26:26.680 --> 02:26:32.280]  So once you've filed a criminal complaint against the judge once, and they throw it in the trash,
[02:26:33.160 --> 02:26:37.720]  he is not going to want you to do that again. Or if you've asked the bailiff to arrest him
[02:26:38.360 --> 02:26:43.720]  and embarrassed him in front of the court, he is not going to want that to happen again.
[02:26:44.440 --> 02:26:49.560]  They get more careful. I hope that makes sense. And I think I'm talking too much.
[02:26:49.560 --> 02:26:52.760]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Reelz All Radio, we'll be right back.
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[02:30:29.240 --> 02:30:56.680]  Okay, we are back in St. Helens and we're talking to Chris in Colorado and Chris,
[02:30:59.240 --> 02:31:06.600]  I'm doing something. So I'm using a lot of verbiage here, but I'm trying to find
[02:31:06.600 --> 02:31:16.600]  to figure out a way to craft a rather complex idea into just a few words.
[02:31:18.280 --> 02:31:25.080]  I have, you know, when I talk about the legal 101, I have these rules.
[02:31:25.160 --> 02:31:31.480]  One of the rules is never give fair warning. It took me a long time to figure that one out
[02:31:33.000 --> 02:31:37.320]  because, you know, we go before these public officials and they do stuff we don't want
[02:31:37.320 --> 02:31:42.040]  and we jump up and down railing righteous indignation. Oh, my God, I got this right.
[02:31:42.040 --> 02:31:49.560]  I got that right. Blah, blah, blah. It's a natural tendency. Now I spent a long time trying to figure
[02:31:49.960 --> 02:32:00.040]  out how do I interrupt that pattern? So I come up with this. Finally, after years,
[02:32:01.320 --> 02:32:09.800]  this rule never give fair warning. Chris, you hear me say that it's clear to you exactly what
[02:32:09.800 --> 02:32:24.840]  I mean by that. So how to use the criminal side of law as a tool in civil litigation?
[02:32:27.640 --> 02:32:33.560]  That's what I've been doing in these last couple segments. I'm trying to figure out
[02:32:34.520 --> 02:32:40.200]  how do I say this in just a few words so someone will get it?
[02:32:41.880 --> 02:32:48.920]  We don't care about prosecution. We just want to use this as a tool to influence the other party.
[02:32:50.440 --> 02:32:53.480]  So how would you explain that to me?
[02:32:53.480 --> 02:33:02.040]  Well, I mean, I've been listening to you guys for, I can't believe I'm going to say this, years now,
[02:33:02.840 --> 02:33:09.160]  a few years. And what I've learned from what you said, and I won't call them mistakes,
[02:33:09.160 --> 02:33:14.680]  but from the experiences you've had is that we don't go after the whole system all at once.
[02:33:14.680 --> 02:33:19.720]  What I hear a lot of people do is they get all frustrated. Like you said, I got this right and
[02:33:19.720 --> 02:33:24.040]  that right. And they feel like they're at war with the entire system. Now, while that might be
[02:33:24.040 --> 02:33:30.920]  slightly true, it hasn't seemed like, oh, we've had, people have had a whole lot of success going
[02:33:30.920 --> 02:33:35.560]  out and getting a pistol and, you know, metaphorically and going after everybody who's got
[02:33:36.680 --> 02:33:41.800]  legions of armies to come back at us. Like it's just not some type of battle we can take on on
[02:33:41.800 --> 02:33:48.440]  that level. So what I'm trying to wrap my head around is what's going to work best for a strategy
[02:33:48.440 --> 02:33:54.200]  of what you're saying. Do I go at them criminally first, or do I save it for like,
[02:33:54.920 --> 02:33:56.360]  how many moves down the road?
[02:33:59.560 --> 02:34:08.600]  Now, that's a sophisticated question. That all goes to this Bible term called divination.
[02:34:10.760 --> 02:34:13.720]  I don't think there's any way to say when you should do that.
[02:34:14.680 --> 02:34:21.240]  But once you understand the tool, your intuition will tell you that answer.
[02:34:22.760 --> 02:34:30.680]  Yes. And ironically enough, my landlord is giving me some insight to the,
[02:34:30.680 --> 02:34:37.240]  and relevance to our discussion. Like he's, today he did something that I warned him almost a year
[02:34:37.240 --> 02:34:43.400]  ago never to do again. And he didn't listen, apparently. And he's just one of those people
[02:34:43.400 --> 02:34:52.200]  that's very unstable, rageful, and he gets violently against people who's close to him.
[02:34:52.200 --> 02:34:58.040]  So what happened today is he crossed that line. And now I didn't realize I had this in me,
[02:34:58.040 --> 02:35:05.240]  but I was actually prepared for criminal response. The first thing I did today is I got on the horn
[02:35:05.240 --> 02:35:09.400]  with the police and I said, what should I do? Should I file a report or should I go down and
[02:35:09.400 --> 02:35:14.520]  get a restraining order? And he said, it's up to you, but here's the process and we'll be here
[02:35:14.520 --> 02:35:20.440]  for you when you're ready. And that was a long, this is over a two year relationship, ups and
[02:35:20.440 --> 02:35:25.560]  downs, all kinds of crazy stuff, but the dude's off his rocker when he loses it. So what I'm being
[02:35:25.560 --> 02:35:30.360]  shown is it's kind of a last resort. Be as patient as possible, get to know people,
[02:35:30.360 --> 02:35:34.440]  know them, get to know them really well, get their system, know their system really well.
[02:35:34.440 --> 02:35:36.120]  And then if they blow it, use it against them.
[02:35:36.120 --> 02:35:47.320]  And then sometimes, you said as a last resort, 90% of the time when someone calls the police
[02:35:48.280 --> 02:35:56.280]  over a local dispute, the police get very good at resolving these issues.
[02:35:57.400 --> 02:36:04.120]  They do this all the time. They're pros at it. So don't expect just because you call the police,
[02:36:04.120 --> 02:36:08.680]  you're going to come out here and arrest someone. What they're going to try to do is mediate
[02:36:09.560 --> 02:36:17.080]  whatever the issue is. So look at who you're dealing with. And if this guy
[02:36:19.160 --> 02:36:27.960]  has a lack of self-control, you're a grown up, you're a grown up male.
[02:36:28.280 --> 02:36:36.760]  And you're a big boy and you got your big boy pants on. And he's not going to harm you.
[02:36:36.760 --> 02:36:43.960]  You can handle this guy. But what about someone who's just got out of high school and
[02:36:44.520 --> 02:36:48.120]  starting out in the world and he runs into a landlord like this guy?
[02:36:48.280 --> 02:36:55.480]  How do you give this guy reason to be careful
[02:36:57.560 --> 02:37:06.920]  so that when he gets around someone who's not as capable as you, he has reason to not harm someone?
[02:37:10.120 --> 02:37:12.760]  The way I think about it, when I'm dealing with the courts,
[02:37:12.760 --> 02:37:20.840]  they're used to just running over process. I am not going to file against the judges
[02:37:20.840 --> 02:37:25.000]  at the Court of Criminal Appeals because I'm angry at them. I'm not.
[02:37:27.400 --> 02:37:34.600]  I'm grown up, I'm functional, I'm capable. I can take care of my business.
[02:37:35.800 --> 02:37:42.600]  But what about my children? What about people who aren't as sophisticated as I
[02:37:42.760 --> 02:37:52.280]  am? I've been focused on this for 30 years. What about the guy who's got two cars, a mortgage,
[02:37:52.280 --> 02:37:58.600]  three kids, two jobs? And they've run into these guys and they screw them over.
[02:38:00.440 --> 02:38:08.920]  What can I do as I'm dealing with these public officials to give them reason to be cautious?
[02:38:09.400 --> 02:38:14.040]  Give them reason to think you never know when one of these guys are going to land on you
[02:38:14.040 --> 02:38:24.920]  like a ton of bricks. You're in a case now and in your particular instance,
[02:38:24.920 --> 02:38:32.680]  I'm trying to find a way to say this so it's elegant and efficient. But they're doing things
[02:38:32.680 --> 02:38:40.040]  that are improper, or even if they appear to be improper, even if they're not.
[02:38:42.600 --> 02:38:51.880]  The more minor a infraction or a misdirection on the part of public officials from my part, the
[02:38:51.880 --> 02:38:59.880]  better. If I hammer this public official and he steps half inch across the legal line,
[02:39:00.200 --> 02:39:07.080]  I may keep him from doing something really stupid. Or if I'm dealing with this arrogant smart mouth
[02:39:07.080 --> 02:39:16.120]  prosecutor who thinks he's just dealing with a pro se litigant, and he comes in like in
[02:39:16.120 --> 02:39:24.760]  a friend of mine's case who filed a criminal, a suit against a JP for not issuing a warrant.
[02:39:24.920 --> 02:39:26.440]  For not issuing a warrant.
[02:39:29.720 --> 02:39:33.560]  In the prosecuting attorney, a district attorney responded for him.
[02:39:35.400 --> 02:39:39.960]  Wonderful. So he lands on the prosecuting attorney,
[02:39:42.360 --> 02:39:48.360]  files against him and criminally against him. Now you got the guy that you're after,
[02:39:48.360 --> 02:39:53.960]  he's back here saying, oh, I need to be more careful.
[02:39:56.840 --> 02:40:03.240]  And there's nothing, you know, when I go into court, I don't expect them to simply rule in my
[02:40:03.240 --> 02:40:18.280]  favor. I only rule in my favor if I'm right. So I want to give them reason to rule properly.
[02:40:18.760 --> 02:40:26.040]  I am definitely struggling with how to say this. So I'm talking too much.
[02:40:27.320 --> 02:40:29.960]  Tell me how to do this. How do I get this to make sense?
[02:40:33.000 --> 02:40:37.480]  Well, I don't know the answer yet because I'm still practicing it myself, but I'll speak to
[02:40:37.480 --> 02:40:43.640]  something somebody said, which didn't make any sense at the time. But when we come back,
[02:40:43.640 --> 02:40:48.520]  I'll share what Cliff High said one time. I don't know if people know what Cliff High is,
[02:40:48.520 --> 02:40:55.160]  but some people might. Okay. Hang on. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain. We'll be right back.
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[02:43:24.840 --> 02:43:33.400]  Always, I must be careful what I'm wishing for. When I'm hungry, I like to know just what I'm
[02:43:33.400 --> 02:43:42.760]  fishing for. I ain't asking for much, I ain't trying to be no glutton. I'm just here making my
[02:43:42.760 --> 02:43:53.880]  living pushing buttons. I give my message out to anyone in shot and distance. I vote for bravery
[02:43:53.880 --> 02:44:02.840]  and against slavery, showing resistance. First I'm crawling, then I'm walking, then I start strutting.
[02:44:02.840 --> 02:44:06.920]  I'm just so glad to make my living pushing buttons.
[02:44:18.280 --> 02:44:21.960]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio,
[02:44:21.960 --> 02:44:24.680]  and Chris, it's gotta be obvious that I'm struggling here.
[02:44:24.680 --> 02:44:34.200]  I want to be able to say something in just a few words and have it immediately make sense,
[02:44:34.200 --> 02:44:41.000]  but I don't have this one down yet. Help me out.
[02:44:41.000 --> 02:44:47.160]  I think you're trying to teach us a strategy of it's borderline intimidation,
[02:44:47.160 --> 02:44:52.920]  what they're doing to us, but it's also using the system that they're afraid of
[02:44:53.880 --> 02:44:59.960]  and using it and knocking on their door with it. I think that's what we're all doing in our own
[02:44:59.960 --> 02:45:05.240]  ways. I'm trying to figure out what's the most effective. I think, again, like I said,
[02:45:05.240 --> 02:45:09.640]  I've learned from you guys, it's not going in there and screaming and yelling because they
[02:45:09.640 --> 02:45:13.560]  don't care. They don't care about us as an individual, but they do care about the system.
[02:45:13.560 --> 02:45:17.800]  They care about the system that we're wielding against them. That's the thing that's always
[02:45:17.800 --> 02:45:21.320]  fascinated me since the first time I started listening to you guys is that I actually can
[02:45:21.320 --> 02:45:26.920]  file a case and have to take it seriously for just even a short period of time.
[02:45:26.920 --> 02:45:34.680]  They have to take it seriously, even if they're pretending. What I'm trying to figure out now is
[02:45:34.680 --> 02:45:42.120]  what are their weaknesses. This guy named Cliff High, a few years ago, he talked about this.
[02:45:42.120 --> 02:45:45.720]  Somebody brought a lawsuit against him because he said something about somebody else and it was
[02:45:45.720 --> 02:45:51.320]  slanderous. Anyway, it was taking up a lot of his time and money. He figured out that
[02:45:52.120 --> 02:45:57.320]  if he structured his response in a certain way, I can't remember if it was the appeals court or
[02:45:57.320 --> 02:46:02.440]  the trial court, it backed them into the corner. That is, they ruled in one direction,
[02:46:02.440 --> 02:46:06.840]  it would set a precedent, and they ruled in the other direction, and it would set a precedent,
[02:46:06.840 --> 02:46:14.280]  so they just dismissed the case. I asked him, how did you do that? Of course, he's Cliff High,
[02:46:14.280 --> 02:46:17.720]  didn't want to talk, so he just figured out yourself. Basically, you have to find their
[02:46:17.720 --> 02:46:25.800]  weaknesses. I'm trying to do that in finding law that they're using against us and find law
[02:46:25.800 --> 02:46:31.800]  that I can use against them. They can't get out from acknowledging it because if they don't
[02:46:31.800 --> 02:46:37.320]  acknowledge it, then that's a problem. If they do acknowledge it, then it's a problem also.
[02:46:37.800 --> 02:46:41.320]  And I think that's exactly what I'm speaking to.
[02:46:42.760 --> 02:46:50.760]  The criminal is something they can't get away from. They think, for the most part,
[02:46:51.960 --> 02:46:58.760]  these courts are not gonna prosecute me criminally. But what if they do?
[02:46:58.840 --> 02:47:05.880]  Russian roulette, who wants to play Russian roulette with their career?
[02:47:06.760 --> 02:47:10.120]  I got this guy over here who's trying to get me indicted.
[02:47:12.600 --> 02:47:15.880]  Well, I don't think the grand jury will indict me, but
[02:47:17.960 --> 02:47:25.400]  what if there's one guy on the grand jury that's been screwed over similar to what this guy's
[02:47:25.400 --> 02:47:35.160]  talking about? You screwed up a Jesus out of him. And it's been my experience when I start
[02:47:35.160 --> 02:47:40.440]  speaking to grand juries and criminal complaints, and this is nothing radical.
[02:47:42.120 --> 02:47:51.800]  If I get a litigant that does something that the law forbids them to do, what's hard about that?
[02:47:51.800 --> 02:47:58.840]  You're in a civil case, but if they do something criminal in the civil case,
[02:47:59.720 --> 02:48:06.040]  even if they don't do something criminal, if they do something you can make look as though it's
[02:48:06.040 --> 02:48:13.080]  criminal, now they have to shift gears in neuro-linguistic programming. We call that
[02:48:13.080 --> 02:48:21.880]  a pattern interruption. They have these patterns that they run and they have these
[02:48:21.880 --> 02:48:26.440]  internal expectations. They expect things to go a certain way.
[02:48:27.640 --> 02:48:33.560]  And about the worst thing you can do to someone is interrupt their internal expectations.
[02:48:36.440 --> 02:48:42.600]  When I'm dealing with lawyers, they deal with judges and other lawyers all the time. They
[02:48:42.600 --> 02:48:47.160]  just do it over and over and over. And when they come along across me,
[02:48:48.360 --> 02:48:50.920]  lawyers don't charge other lawyers criminally
[02:48:53.320 --> 02:48:56.040]  because they don't want that lawyer charging him criminally.
[02:48:56.600 --> 02:49:01.000]  They don't directly challenge other lawyers' case law
[02:49:03.000 --> 02:49:08.760]  because they don't want that other law directly challenging his case law and getting them both
[02:49:08.760 --> 02:49:14.200]  in trouble. So they kind of cover for one another even though they appear to be on opposite sides.
[02:49:15.720 --> 02:49:24.680]  But you're per se, you don't fall under any of that professional courtesy BS.
[02:49:27.800 --> 02:49:34.040]  So it's kind of what I'm talking about here, but more to the criminal side. If someone does
[02:49:34.040 --> 02:49:42.920]  something or says something and I can construe that it appears to be criminal, I can file on them.
[02:49:45.880 --> 02:49:49.720]  And then they have to answer. That gets their attention.
[02:49:49.720 --> 02:49:54.200]  And it's been my experience that these lawyers and public officials,
[02:49:55.160 --> 02:49:57.320]  they know they're violating law all the time.
[02:49:57.480 --> 02:50:05.480]  So you get to, they know they're the bad guys and you're going to shine a light on it.
[02:50:09.800 --> 02:50:13.880]  Just by paying attention to the potential criminal side, am I making sense?
[02:50:16.760 --> 02:50:18.440]  Do I need to shut up now?
[02:50:20.440 --> 02:50:22.920]  Well, are there any other callers?
[02:50:24.120 --> 02:50:26.600]  There's one more caller, but we've got time.
[02:50:27.640 --> 02:50:33.400]  Okay, the lawyer that had been helping me, and he's one of the rare lawyers, the one in a thousand,
[02:50:34.040 --> 02:50:37.720]  he does. He challenges the system right up to the border.
[02:50:38.440 --> 02:50:42.840]  Even when they're doing extensions, and a lawyer is abusing the extension policy,
[02:50:42.840 --> 02:50:46.360]  most courts will just grant it and grant it and grant it like three or four times.
[02:50:46.360 --> 02:50:55.400]  Okay, hold on, hold on. If you have a real lawyer, would you or me ask him if he would
[02:50:55.400 --> 02:51:05.080]  be willing to come on my show, that show to talk to people about where lawyers live?
[02:51:08.200 --> 02:51:10.200]  If he's a lawyer who wants to do the right thing,
[02:51:12.280 --> 02:51:17.720]  would he be willing to come to talk to people about what it's like to be a lawyer and what
[02:51:17.720 --> 02:51:20.040]  they need to know when they talk to their lawyer?
[02:51:20.040 --> 02:51:26.920]  Maybe, I'm actually trying to picture myself asking him that question. He might be pretty
[02:51:26.920 --> 02:51:33.480]  reserved to that possibility, but I'll ask. It doesn't matter if he does or not, just that
[02:51:34.520 --> 02:51:45.480]  if you tell him that you know the host here and they preach to the legal reform community
[02:51:46.200 --> 02:51:50.200]  and you would appeal to the legal reform community.
[02:51:51.560 --> 02:51:56.280]  They would like to hear and understand how honest lawyers do what they do.
[02:51:57.720 --> 02:52:02.920]  We don't want any corrupt shysters. We want an honest lawyer to talk to us about how to
[02:52:02.920 --> 02:52:10.120]  handle ourselves in law. I try to do this all the time because if somebody's doing something right,
[02:52:10.840 --> 02:52:18.440]  I want to tell them. I want to give them a claim for that. My son is a weightlifter.
[02:52:19.720 --> 02:52:25.480]  He's got two PhDs and he pumps dumbbells. He can press my body weight.
[02:52:26.760 --> 02:52:31.800]  And he ordered a pizza once and the guy showed up and said he had just got out of the shower and
[02:52:31.800 --> 02:52:37.640]  had his shorts on and a towel over his neck and he opened the door. And he said the guy looked at
[02:52:37.640 --> 02:52:49.880]  him and said, holy mackerel, I deliver a pizza to the Hulk. And my son said that was the only time
[02:52:50.760 --> 02:53:00.200]  anyone had ever commented on how he looked. And he worked all constantly to get that look.
[02:53:01.320 --> 02:53:05.640]  He looked good, but nobody ever commented about it.
[02:53:07.880 --> 02:53:14.840]  So when I was in an airport getting my luggage and this woman came to get her luggage,
[02:53:14.840 --> 02:53:21.880]  she was about five foot four, maybe 120 pounds. And I turned and looked at her and stopped a
[02:53:21.880 --> 02:53:26.840]  second and took a second look. And I looked down at her and she looked up at me like,
[02:53:26.840 --> 02:53:32.520]  what the hell's your problem? I said, ma'am, do you pump iron?
[02:53:32.520 --> 02:53:42.360]  She said, why did you ask me that? You look buff. And she just gushed. She said,
[02:53:43.080 --> 02:53:47.480]  nobody ever tells me that. She competed, she was a bodybuilder.
[02:53:49.000 --> 02:53:59.320]  She competed, but nobody ever acknowledged that to her. And I have found that to be extremely
[02:53:59.320 --> 02:54:08.760]  powerful. You tell this lawyer, and like you told me honestly, he wants to do what's right.
[02:54:10.600 --> 02:54:14.920]  And if he would be willing to come on my show, I'd be glad to have him on my show.
[02:54:15.800 --> 02:54:20.440]  But I was in a restaurant a couple days ago with Dr. Joe and we're walking out.
[02:54:20.440 --> 02:54:23.480]  And there's this black guy sitting at this table and I stopped and looked at him.
[02:54:24.280 --> 02:54:31.560]  And I said, holy crap. And he looked up like, what? You got muscles in places
[02:54:31.560 --> 02:54:36.200]  that I don't even have places. And he just beamed.
[02:54:37.960 --> 02:54:41.000]  But I knew that because my son had told me about that.
[02:54:43.800 --> 02:54:49.720]  Look at these guys, you've got a lawyer who's, you gave me an honest recommendation about him.
[02:54:49.720 --> 02:54:55.480]  I'd very much like to have him on my show. And I'd very much like to let him know how much
[02:54:55.480 --> 02:54:58.920]  we appreciate what appears to be an honest lawyer.
[02:55:00.040 --> 02:55:07.960]  Yeah. And he's even goes after other lawyers and files, what do you call them? Bargreeves?
[02:55:07.960 --> 02:55:08.600]  Bargreeves?
[02:55:11.240 --> 02:55:13.000]  We definitely want to talk to this lawyer.
[02:55:13.000 --> 02:55:17.720]  And we do our best to bring him some business.
[02:55:18.760 --> 02:55:22.280]  Because people keep asking me, do you have a lawyer you can recommend? And I have to say,
[02:55:23.000 --> 02:55:27.800]  I've only been doing this show for 17 years. And unfortunately,
[02:55:27.800 --> 02:55:30.840]  I haven't had enough time to find an honest lawyer.
[02:55:36.520 --> 02:55:42.680]  Okay. Hang on. That was fun getting to do that. I don't get to just say this often,
[02:55:43.560 --> 02:55:47.560]  not everybody out there is a bad guy. And I want to bring on the good guys. We'll be right back.
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[02:56:58.600 --> 02:57:05.240]  The Bill of Rights contains the first 10 amendments of our constitution.
[02:57:05.240 --> 02:57:08.680]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[02:57:08.680 --> 02:57:12.760]  Our liberty depends on it. I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht and I'll be right back with an
[02:57:12.760 --> 02:57:18.520]  unforgettable way to remember one of your constitutional rights. Privacy is under attack.
[02:57:18.520 --> 02:57:23.880]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again. And once your privacy is gone,
[02:57:23.880 --> 02:57:28.360]  you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too. So protect your rights,
[02:57:28.360 --> 02:57:34.600]  say no to surveillance and keep your information to yourself. Privacy, it's worth hanging on to.
[02:57:34.600 --> 02:57:39.480]  This public service announcement is brought to you by Startpage.com, the private search engine
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[02:57:45.640 --> 02:57:50.520]  Imagine your mom and dad are getting ready for bed. They pull back the covers and find a third
[02:57:50.520 --> 02:57:54.520]  party there. He announces, I'm with the military and I'm sleeping here tonight.
[02:57:54.520 --> 02:57:59.080]  That shocking image of a third party in my parents' bed reminds me what the Third Amendment was
[02:57:59.080 --> 02:58:04.120]  designed to prevent. It protects us from being forced to share our homes with soldiers, a common
[02:58:04.120 --> 02:58:09.640]  demand in the days of our founding fathers. Third party, Third Amendment, get it? So if you answer
[02:58:09.640 --> 02:58:14.200]  a knock at your door and guys in fatigues demand lodging, tell them to dust off their copy of the
[02:58:14.200 --> 02:58:19.400]  Bill of Rights and reread the Third Amendment. I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. More news and information
[02:58:19.400 --> 02:58:21.000]  at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[02:58:31.480 --> 02:58:36.440]  The Bill of Rights contains the first 10 amendments of our constitution. They guarantee the specific
[02:58:36.440 --> 02:58:41.480]  freedoms Americans should know and protect. Our liberty depends on it. I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht
[02:58:41.480 --> 02:58:45.960]  and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember one of your constitutional rights.
[02:58:46.600 --> 02:58:52.120]  Privacy is under attack. When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[02:58:52.120 --> 02:58:56.920]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[02:58:56.920 --> 02:59:03.080]  So protect your rights. Say no to surveillance and keep your information to yourself. Privacy,
[02:59:03.080 --> 02:59:08.280]  it's worth hanging on to. This public service announcement is brought to you by Startpage.com,
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[02:59:15.960 --> 02:59:20.360]  Imagine four eyes staring at you through binoculars, a magnifying glass or a pair of
[02:59:20.360 --> 02:59:25.640]  x-ray goggles. That imagery reminds me that the Fourth Amendment guarantees Americans freedom from
[02:59:25.640 --> 02:59:31.320]  unreasonable search and seizure. Fourth Amendment, four eyes staring at you? Get it? Unfortunately,
[02:59:31.320 --> 02:59:36.040]  the government is trampling our Fourth Amendment rights in the name of security. Case in point,
[02:59:36.040 --> 02:59:41.560]  TSA airport scanners that peer under your clothing. When government employees demand a peep at your
[02:59:41.560 --> 02:59:46.520]  privates without probable cause, I say it's time to sound the constitutional alarm bells.
[02:59:46.520 --> 02:59:49.800]  Join me in asking our representatives to dust off the Bill of Rights
[02:59:49.800 --> 02:59:52.760]  and use their googly eyes to take a gander at the Fourth.
[02:59:53.400 --> 02:59:57.560]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[03:01:11.960 --> 03:01:14.680]  T.F. Liar and even Murderer
[03:01:14.680 --> 03:01:17.320]  Chasing out the house because they cannot enter
[03:01:17.320 --> 03:01:20.120]  Flowing water, clean signs only
[03:01:20.120 --> 03:01:23.000]  Only them could enter in God's house you see
[03:01:23.000 --> 03:01:25.720]  See if your soul surrender quickly
[03:01:25.720 --> 03:01:27.800]  That's what you're doing now we have the house you see
[03:01:27.800 --> 03:01:31.800]  I will only find my purpose now
[03:01:31.800 --> 03:01:34.520]  I won't allow the wicked
[03:01:34.520 --> 03:01:38.920]  I will only find my purpose now
[03:01:38.920 --> 03:01:42.280]  You've got to keep me sleeping still and true
[03:01:42.280 --> 03:01:45.240]  I will lie so long with you
[03:01:45.240 --> 03:01:46.760]  I will lie so long with you
[03:01:46.760 --> 03:01:56.520]  On this Friday, the seventh day of February at 2025 and we're talking to Scott Scott.
[03:01:56.520 --> 03:02:02.600]  We're talking to Chris in Colorado and we were a little bit overdue there,
[03:02:02.600 --> 03:02:05.400]  but we were having so much fun on the break.
[03:02:06.040 --> 03:02:11.400]  Deborah was reminding me of some of the really irreverent stuff I said years ago.
[03:02:12.360 --> 03:02:22.360]  Anyway, okay, Chris, back to not anything specific to do,
[03:02:22.360 --> 03:02:28.920]  but how to think about how we're dealing with these people
[03:02:29.800 --> 03:02:38.120]  people and using criminal as a way to get their focus.
[03:02:38.120 --> 03:02:42.280]  Sometimes we do things and we do them the same way over and over and over
[03:02:42.920 --> 03:02:44.440]  and we kind of lose our focus.
[03:02:46.040 --> 03:02:48.600]  Sometimes we need to do something to get their attention
[03:02:49.800 --> 03:02:54.440]  and I have found that criminal is an extremely powerful tool
[03:02:55.400 --> 03:02:58.600]  for getting these public officials' attention.
[03:02:58.600 --> 03:03:03.080]  And I'm just doing this because we're having so much fun on the break.
[03:03:03.080 --> 03:03:07.720]  I completely forgot where we were at when we came out, Chris.
[03:03:10.280 --> 03:03:16.520]  Well, I got to get going just because I'm still way past my bedtime now,
[03:03:16.520 --> 03:03:23.160]  but I want another angle that I guess that I'm working on is using their own words against them.
[03:03:25.080 --> 03:03:28.040]  And I think that's a form of backing them into the corner.
[03:03:29.000 --> 03:03:31.560]  Oh, yes, and watch their case law.
[03:03:32.440 --> 03:03:37.960]  Oh, do I love taking their case law and cramming it down their throats.
[03:03:39.160 --> 03:03:39.480]  Right.
[03:03:41.320 --> 03:03:43.400]  So it's not hard.
[03:03:47.240 --> 03:03:51.880]  It sounds like that would be something that you have to really work hard to pick it apart.
[03:03:52.680 --> 03:03:54.360]  Oh, my goodness, they make it easy.
[03:03:55.480 --> 03:04:00.920]  They put such garbage out that it's not difficult at all to rip them shreds.
[03:04:02.120 --> 03:04:04.280]  Okay, so where are you now?
[03:04:08.280 --> 03:04:08.680]  Go ahead.
[03:04:10.440 --> 03:04:11.480]  You mean with my cases?
[03:04:12.600 --> 03:04:15.480]  Well, I'm just sitting tight and I've got some work to do.
[03:04:15.480 --> 03:04:21.400]  My appeals case has been briefed, but I want to read just one quote.
[03:04:22.280 --> 03:04:23.240]  And I don't know.
[03:04:23.960 --> 03:04:25.640]  I think this means what it says.
[03:04:26.360 --> 03:04:28.600]  But for those who are afraid of the appeals court,
[03:04:29.480 --> 03:04:32.280]  I was afraid even when I was hearing Dr. Gray's talk,
[03:04:33.320 --> 03:04:34.520]  don't even worry about the trial court.
[03:04:34.520 --> 03:04:36.120]  You just want to go to the appeals court.
[03:04:36.120 --> 03:04:37.320]  I was still afraid of it.
[03:04:37.880 --> 03:04:40.440]  And now I'm not because now I've been through my first appeal.
[03:04:40.440 --> 03:04:41.960]  I don't know which way it's going to go.
[03:04:41.960 --> 03:04:48.760]  But I found some of the language that may give us some confidence.
[03:04:49.720 --> 03:04:56.760]  And this is from Singleton versus Wolf, W-U-L-F-F.
[03:04:56.760 --> 03:05:01.720]  And it says, the matter of what questions may be taken up and resolved for the first time on appeal
[03:05:01.720 --> 03:05:04.760]  is one left primarily to the discretion of the court of appeals
[03:05:05.480 --> 03:05:08.760]  to be exercised on the facts of individual cases.
[03:05:10.200 --> 03:05:16.680]  So it's especially relevant for pro-stays because we don't know how to always argue
[03:05:16.680 --> 03:05:21.720]  every detail to the letter to all the elements of a claim in the lower courts.
[03:05:21.720 --> 03:05:24.360]  And especially if the lower courts aren't giving us our day in court,
[03:05:24.360 --> 03:05:25.560]  they just kick our butts out.
[03:05:26.680 --> 03:05:30.760]  We've essentially lost our ability to put things on the record.
[03:05:32.040 --> 03:05:36.760]  Yeah, or if we are in the court and we do want to argue all the right things,
[03:05:36.760 --> 03:05:39.800]  maybe we even have notes and we're prepared to argue all the right things.
[03:05:40.600 --> 03:05:43.720]  For some reason, they won't respect the rules of evidence
[03:05:43.720 --> 03:05:46.760]  or they won't respect their own procedural rules.
[03:05:46.760 --> 03:05:51.000]  And we end up not being able to make a record because of that.
[03:05:51.000 --> 03:05:55.720]  And so we have to object and we have to go through extra hoops.
[03:05:58.040 --> 03:06:02.680]  Right. And so I think that the appeals court shouldn't be like,
[03:06:03.240 --> 03:06:05.480]  this is barred because you didn't argue below.
[03:06:05.480 --> 03:06:08.440]  And unfortunately, there are some cases that say that.
[03:06:08.440 --> 03:06:12.520]  But generally, the Supreme Court is saying, no, that's not how this works.
[03:06:13.320 --> 03:06:16.440]  If you're not given due process, you're not given your day in court,
[03:06:16.440 --> 03:06:20.520]  you have your next court to be given your day in court.
[03:06:20.520 --> 03:06:22.680]  And you can bring stuff up for the first time there
[03:06:22.680 --> 03:06:25.080]  because the low court denied you the ability to do that.
[03:06:25.960 --> 03:06:29.160]  And now they're not going to rule on your case, but they're going to say,
[03:06:29.160 --> 03:06:32.040]  yeah, there's enough here for this to get remanded back down.
[03:06:33.160 --> 03:06:36.680]  Yeah. And that would be a perfectly acceptable answer.
[03:06:36.680 --> 03:06:45.240]  So I'm looking for all that and I want to back the courts into a corner so they can't deny
[03:06:45.240 --> 03:06:49.320]  this language. Because if they do, then maybe that actually is criminal.
[03:06:50.600 --> 03:06:54.280]  And I would probably be pretty happy to go to the next level and say,
[03:06:54.280 --> 03:07:00.040]  let's go to the grand jury and say, hey, you've got judges who are conspiring behind the scenes
[03:07:00.040 --> 03:07:04.040]  and ignoring their own rulings from the Supreme Court.
[03:07:05.000 --> 03:07:11.000]  And it's crazy because I don't know what clubs form, but this case that I'm dealing with,
[03:07:11.000 --> 03:07:15.640]  the defense is pulling up all kinds of case law that just shuts down proceeds,
[03:07:15.640 --> 03:07:20.760]  shuts down due process. You have no right unless you're part of the club.
[03:07:20.760 --> 03:07:25.480]  And then I'll find a case that'll say, no, if you didn't get to argue it in your complaint
[03:07:26.360 --> 03:07:31.160]  and then you bring it up in your answer and you ask for a leave to amend,
[03:07:31.240 --> 03:07:34.760]  that's essentially the same as making a motion for a leave to amend.
[03:07:34.760 --> 03:07:38.840]  And yet there's another case that says if you don't ask for a motion for a leave to amend,
[03:07:38.840 --> 03:07:44.040]  you don't get to amend. And therefore, nothing that was in your original complaint gets considered
[03:07:44.040 --> 03:07:48.680]  anywhere later on, even in an appeals court. Who are these people that say stuff like that?
[03:07:49.560 --> 03:07:55.240]  But there are cases that these lawyers are using. And here I have Supreme Court cases that say, no,
[03:07:55.880 --> 03:08:02.440]  that's not how it works. If you're denied due process and you didn't argue in the courts below,
[03:08:02.440 --> 03:08:06.760]  you can argue it in the higher courts. And it's up to their discretion whether they consider it or
[03:08:06.760 --> 03:08:20.360]  not. So that's pretty positive, I think. I think you're right. I appreciate you bringing that stuff
[03:08:20.360 --> 03:08:28.440]  up. Yeah. So I heard Ted last night, he's discouraged, but I think actually on a deeper
[03:08:28.440 --> 03:08:33.080]  level, he's afraid of the appeals court. He's afraid of getting shut down again because he's
[03:08:33.080 --> 03:08:42.120]  been shut down so much. And he's been through stuff that most of us can't fathom, but he's been
[03:08:42.120 --> 03:08:47.960]  shut down. So he's trying to preemptively set them up so they can't shut them down again.
[03:08:47.960 --> 03:08:53.160]  And he's basically setting himself up to be shut down again. That's what I heard last night. I mean,
[03:08:53.160 --> 03:09:01.160]  I was half awake. And it just sounds like if you go in and just tell the real story and demand that
[03:09:01.160 --> 03:09:08.440]  the courts hear the story, because it is related to everything, and use these cases kind of not
[03:09:08.440 --> 03:09:14.760]  really against them, but to remind them. They have a duty to listen to us and to afford us due
[03:09:14.760 --> 03:09:21.160]  process. It's not, you're probably not part of the club thing. The early cases that I'm reading
[03:09:21.160 --> 03:09:28.840]  here don't have any of that language. So I hope, I don't know, has anybody had any success in the
[03:09:28.840 --> 03:09:33.880]  appeals court? Have they had things remanded? I mean, this is my first time doing it, but I'm curious.
[03:09:37.320 --> 03:09:40.040]  Not that I know of. I'm not the
[03:09:40.600 --> 03:09:48.760]  authoritative answer about that though. Okay. Randy, have you been hearing about things like that?
[03:09:50.120 --> 03:09:57.640]  People turning their cases remanded? Yes. From appellate courts? Am I muted? Can you hear me?
[03:09:57.640 --> 03:10:06.040]  I hear you. Okay. Yes, I have heard about that. And that's going to be problematic for them.
[03:10:10.360 --> 03:10:15.400]  What, getting remanded or? Yeah, well, you can't just,
[03:10:21.000 --> 03:10:23.480]  see, how was I going to say that? I lost my track.
[03:10:25.240 --> 03:10:29.640]  When the appellate court remands something back to the trial court.
[03:10:30.440 --> 03:10:36.200]  The appellate court will almost do it with instructions, like in Dr. Joe's case.
[03:10:37.160 --> 03:10:41.240]  They remanded back to the trial court and said, this is what you're supposed to do.
[03:10:41.880 --> 03:10:45.640]  They'll render a ruling and say, you've ruled in this way,
[03:10:46.760 --> 03:10:50.840]  but that rule is improper. You have to rule this other way.
[03:10:50.840 --> 03:10:54.200]  Now we remand this back so you can render that proper ruling.
[03:10:56.200 --> 03:10:59.160]  But that's a good thing, right? It's generally what the courts always say.
[03:10:59.160 --> 03:11:06.680]  Okay. But that's a good thing because you get access now to an actual trial with the pressure
[03:11:06.680 --> 03:11:10.920]  from the higher court saying, you're not allowed to dismiss it outright. Here's instructions for
[03:11:10.920 --> 03:11:16.440]  actually applying, trying the case properly. That's a good thing, right? Yes, it absolutely is.
[03:11:17.720 --> 03:11:24.360]  Okay. So I'm just looking for people in the group, in the law groups who have had success
[03:11:24.360 --> 03:11:27.560]  at getting their cases remanded instead of getting shut down again.
[03:11:28.280 --> 03:11:34.200]  And I think when we have more of those, then we'll learn how to not be so intimidated and
[03:11:34.200 --> 03:11:37.880]  not be so aggressive at fighting them and try to work with them. I think that's what we're trying
[03:11:38.840 --> 03:11:44.120]  to connect with is a way to work with the appellate court because the lower courts are
[03:11:44.120 --> 03:11:49.320]  a crap suit, right? Like you said, but the appellate court should uphold more integrity.
[03:11:49.320 --> 03:11:55.000]  And so I'm holding out on that. I'm hoping that case brings their attention to that.
[03:11:55.000 --> 03:12:06.120]  I'm looking at being a citizen in a republic. And as a citizen in a republic, it is my duty
[03:12:06.680 --> 03:12:11.800]  to maintain the governmental instruments that I have created.
[03:12:14.280 --> 03:12:22.360]  So it's our job to make sure they do it right. So the appellate court,
[03:12:23.320 --> 03:12:30.280]  they're secondary to us. And I'm losing track of why I said that. Brett, why'd I say that?
[03:12:33.240 --> 03:12:36.040]  I guess I'm tired. This has really been a long day for me.
[03:12:37.960 --> 03:12:45.160]  I think your point is that, yes, even though they should be the arbiter of the best decisions,
[03:12:45.160 --> 03:12:47.800]  we still have to make sure they're making those best decisions.
[03:12:48.760 --> 03:12:55.000]  Exactly. And yeah, I'm going to file criminal charges against the judges of the Fifth Circuit
[03:12:55.800 --> 03:12:59.400]  because they just blew off my case because I was a pro se.
[03:13:01.000 --> 03:13:08.120]  You got a judge in Austin who's handling the docket that three judges should be handling.
[03:13:08.120 --> 03:13:19.800]  And he's the only openly gay federal judge in existence.
[03:13:21.480 --> 03:13:29.720]  What, judge? Judge Pittman. And Judge Sparks retired.
[03:13:30.680 --> 03:13:37.160]  And then Judge Yankel said that he's got such a crowded docket that he could work as hard
[03:13:37.160 --> 03:13:41.560]  as he could all month. And next month he'd have more cases than he had this month.
[03:13:41.560 --> 03:13:47.560]  So, you know, he's out of here. I'm leaving. He retires. And now he puts all three of them on
[03:13:47.560 --> 03:13:54.200]  Pittman. Pittman blows off my case because I'm a pro se. And I get it. He's got more than he can
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[03:16:52.360 --> 03:16:57.160]  Okay, we're back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Root of Our Radio. We're talking to Chris in
[03:16:57.160 --> 03:17:04.440]  Colorado. Chris, getting brain dead for work and we're out. I get off because I think you have
[03:17:04.440 --> 03:17:07.240]  one more caller. I want to make sure he has some time or she has some time. So
[03:17:10.200 --> 03:17:15.240]  that's all that's where I'm at. I didn't get exactly where you're at in your case.
[03:17:16.200 --> 03:17:23.000]  You've been kicking butt. Well, I finished briefing and then I think last time I'll
[03:17:23.000 --> 03:17:28.520]  just say that I found it interesting that they cited a recent authority that talked nothing about
[03:17:28.520 --> 03:17:33.800]  my case and they didn't even talk about it. So I just think they have weak arguments in my case.
[03:17:33.800 --> 03:17:39.320]  But again, we never know what's going to happen. But I'm waiting to hear how my appeal goes. I
[03:17:39.320 --> 03:17:46.600]  hope to God that it works. And you know, I've been complaining, Brett and I just off the air
[03:17:46.600 --> 03:17:54.120]  were saying how it's almost standard for a courts, the federal courts to throw out
[03:17:54.680 --> 03:18:00.040]  pro se litigant just because it's pro se. But then I forgot who I was talking to.
[03:18:02.120 --> 03:18:07.400]  You're not being thrown out. No, none of my cases have been thrown out.
[03:18:08.360 --> 03:18:12.760]  Well, one was, but now I'm in the appeals court and no, they're not tossing anything.
[03:18:13.640 --> 03:18:14.840]  Who did you pay off?
[03:18:19.160 --> 03:18:25.160]  That says a lot about the quality of your pleadings. They blew me off one sentence.
[03:18:27.160 --> 03:18:28.680]  So why didn't they blow you off?
[03:18:31.240 --> 03:18:37.320]  Well, I've learned from you guys and I'm not going for the horse's head. I mean, I'm nibbling
[03:18:37.400 --> 03:18:44.120]  here and there and trying to get to know who these people are. I'm trying to communicate as if they're
[03:18:44.760 --> 03:18:49.960]  on the same level and make them make sure that they know that, you know, I'm not a lawyer,
[03:18:49.960 --> 03:18:54.600]  but I want to be on the same level. And then if they act up, I'll find other ways to go at it.
[03:18:54.600 --> 03:18:58.920]  But I'm not, I'm not just going in there and tearing up the place. I'm trying to figure out
[03:18:58.920 --> 03:19:04.760]  how things work. And it's like, I'm sure many times people have said, are you a lawyer, Randy?
[03:19:04.760 --> 03:19:08.520]  Well, I'm getting that. Like in every one of my cases, people are saying, are you a lawyer?
[03:19:09.720 --> 03:19:13.080]  And they don't know that chat GBT is now writing half of my stuff, but
[03:19:14.680 --> 03:19:18.120]  I was at the court a couple of days ago and someone asked me if I was a lawyer.
[03:19:18.840 --> 03:19:26.200]  Why? And I didn't do anything to insult you. It was the baby when I was coming in the front door.
[03:19:26.200 --> 03:19:31.320]  So I had a satchel. You're a lawyer. Oh man. Why would you assault me like that?
[03:19:32.280 --> 03:19:37.080]  So yeah, it does feel like it, but.
[03:19:38.280 --> 03:19:40.120]  But you have, you have done really well.
[03:19:42.440 --> 03:19:45.000]  You have beat the norm. So is that
[03:19:46.040 --> 03:19:49.160]  norm? Are you beating that norm because you're in Colorado?
[03:19:51.720 --> 03:19:55.640]  I haven't won anything in Colorado. I'm in three states. Well, technically I've been in three
[03:19:55.640 --> 03:20:01.240]  states. I won in Chicago, in Illinois. I'm in Wyoming in the appeals court,
[03:20:01.240 --> 03:20:06.520]  and then I have two cases in Colorado. So, but I gotta say the judge's tone is supportive in
[03:20:06.520 --> 03:20:12.360]  all the cases except the one in Wyoming, of course. We need to learn from you how you do that.
[03:20:14.200 --> 03:20:20.120]  Because from my perspective, Chicago is the most corrupt place I've ever been. I grew up there.
[03:20:20.360 --> 03:20:26.920]  And for you to get the courts to rule against you against a towing company, all the towing companies
[03:20:27.960 --> 03:20:35.400]  are either owned or directed by the mob. It's been that way for ever.
[03:20:36.840 --> 03:20:42.520]  Yeah, that was a surprising win you had there. To a towing company in Chicago?
[03:20:42.760 --> 03:20:49.880]  In Chicago? I'm surprised they didn't have guys show up in expensive suit
[03:20:49.880 --> 03:20:55.160]  with scars on their knuckles to talk to you. To make you an offer you can't refuse.
[03:20:55.160 --> 03:20:59.720]  Exactly. Well, that's the convenience of my life. They have no idea where I was.
[03:21:03.000 --> 03:21:07.400]  Well, this literally has to go to the quality of your pleadings.
[03:21:07.400 --> 03:21:16.040]  I think it's, I don't know if they're that good. I mean, I think it's the strategy. I'm just not
[03:21:16.040 --> 03:21:21.720]  trying to fight every single person. I'm in there to figure out how to win, but I'm not also
[03:21:22.760 --> 03:21:28.520]  screaming at everybody. You're keeping your focus on your outcome.
[03:21:29.480 --> 03:21:38.200]  Yeah. And I'm also learning how their pleadings work. It's not that hard. You guys figured this
[03:21:38.200 --> 03:21:42.680]  out. Once you learn how they talk, you just talk like them and then they're all surprised. Why are
[03:21:42.680 --> 03:21:49.960]  you talking like me? Well, your language isn't that hard. But surprisingly to the point, Randy,
[03:21:49.960 --> 03:21:55.080]  like you say, you tell us all the time, the courts will tell you if you come to the table
[03:21:55.080 --> 03:21:58.760]  and say, I'm trying to do the best I can. I'm not trying to cause a problem.
[03:21:58.760 --> 03:22:02.680]  They will tell you what to do. That's what they've done in every court.
[03:22:02.680 --> 03:22:07.720]  They've told me what to do to fix it. And then the second one goes wrong and they
[03:22:07.720 --> 03:22:17.000]  allow it in and they're like, okay, you're in. But I just got a call from North Carolina today.
[03:22:17.720 --> 03:22:27.640]  Okay. And these people are, they were in the tornado and they set up their property and
[03:22:28.520 --> 03:22:34.360]  they set up small buildings for people who were homeless. And now they've got the county coming
[03:22:34.360 --> 03:22:44.440]  after them. And it was just an incredibly horrible mess. And this is what they need to learn about.
[03:22:44.440 --> 03:22:49.720]  They need to learn how to do, you know, I've listened to what they did and they followed
[03:22:49.720 --> 03:22:58.760]  this guy named David Strait. And he had him do all this patriot nonsense and the courts
[03:22:58.760 --> 03:23:08.600]  came after him like a, like a buzzsaw. They arrested the wife, took her down to the station,
[03:23:08.680 --> 03:23:16.280]  strip searched her and, and in front of male guards and all kinds of stuff just to punish them.
[03:23:17.720 --> 03:23:23.640]  And to hear you talk about what you're doing, the way you're doing,
[03:23:24.840 --> 03:23:31.000]  this is what everybody needs to hear. Not that patriot mythology nonsense
[03:23:31.720 --> 03:23:34.840]  that gets the courts to screw them royal.
[03:23:34.840 --> 03:23:41.400]  You need to write a dissertation on how to deal with the courts.
[03:23:41.400 --> 03:23:49.880]  Well, I don't know if I can do that yet. I'm still learning it, but all I'm doing is I'm
[03:23:49.880 --> 03:23:54.360]  almost like walking in there. I'll be honest. I'm walking in there like a student teach me
[03:23:55.080 --> 03:24:00.200]  and they kind of laugh at you like, you know, and but then they kind of feel obligated to do it.
[03:24:01.160 --> 03:24:07.720]  And then I'm not kidding. Jet, jet GPT is, is pretty amazing when you get in a rhythm with it.
[03:24:08.760 --> 03:24:13.560]  I tell people like, I'll get all emotional and I'll get all, you know, wordy and just
[03:24:13.560 --> 03:24:17.160]  tell my whole story. I wake up in the morning and be pissed and that thing will refine it back.
[03:24:17.800 --> 03:24:23.000]  It'll pull it back and say, yeah, that's all good, but here's how you should do professional.
[03:24:23.000 --> 03:24:28.120]  And it's, it's, it's the levels above. Well, I shouldn't say levels above, but it's above
[03:24:28.120 --> 03:24:34.440]  the average lawyer when you can, when you can guide it that way. So I have to give credit to AI.
[03:24:34.440 --> 03:24:42.680]  I gotta be honest with you. Could you do us a segment where you instruct us on how to use chat
[03:24:42.680 --> 03:24:51.160]  GTP? Oh boy. Possibly.
[03:24:52.760 --> 03:25:00.360]  You know, I know how to go to chat GTP.com and I know how to put in a question,
[03:25:01.640 --> 03:25:04.280]  but I don't know how to get the answer I'm looking for.
[03:25:04.280 --> 03:25:17.720]  Can you, could you do us an hour or so instructing everyone on how to use the AI engines?
[03:25:19.960 --> 03:25:24.040]  Probably. I mean, it's, it's pretty self-explanatory, but yeah, I mean, there,
[03:25:24.040 --> 03:25:29.160]  there is some, you have to steer it. You do have to steer it and you have to keep it in,
[03:25:29.240 --> 03:25:36.520]  in line. But if you can, if you can keep up with a lot of tasks and you can, you can juggle your own
[03:25:36.520 --> 03:25:39.960]  cause it'll make notes and notes and notes and notes, but it's you that's gotta keep it back.
[03:25:39.960 --> 03:25:44.440]  Cause it'll, it'll get lost. And then you bring it back. But once you get into the pleading,
[03:25:44.440 --> 03:25:50.600]  like it's pretty crazy sometimes what it's fits out. And then that's how I do it. I'll do it in
[03:25:50.600 --> 03:25:54.200]  segments. But anyway, I'd be happy to, at some point, sure. I mean, I'd have to sit down and
[03:25:54.200 --> 03:25:58.440]  maybe do a little bit organized on how to do that for people. But Eric asked me one time,
[03:25:59.000 --> 03:26:03.000]  I was listening on the show and I just took what he was saying and I threw it in there
[03:26:03.000 --> 03:26:06.360]  and it's fit something out. And he's like, holy hell, where did you get this from? What did you
[03:26:06.360 --> 03:26:11.480]  say to it? And I just said it to him. You know, here's your story. And chat GPT took the story
[03:26:11.480 --> 03:26:19.960]  and gave him a phrase to use. And it's, you know, I'd say 70% of the time it'll do stuff like that.
[03:26:19.960 --> 03:26:27.400]  So it's pretty consistent. And that's good because the only problem, the main problem I have with
[03:26:27.480 --> 03:26:35.320]  chat GTP is when it gives me some really nice stuff, I copy it out and I drop it into my document
[03:26:36.200 --> 03:26:43.720]  and it's really hard to get it formatted, right? Yeah, I know, I know. That's my worst complaint
[03:26:43.720 --> 03:26:51.080]  about chat GTP. Any other problems I have with chat GTP is because I don't know how to talk to it.
[03:26:51.080 --> 03:26:55.080]  And that's what I'd like you to help us with. Hang on to going to our sponsors,
[03:26:55.080 --> 03:26:57.000]  Randy Fountain, Brett Fountain. We'll be right back.
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[03:31:04.120 --> 03:31:13.000]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio and Scott,
[03:31:13.560 --> 03:31:22.840]  Scott, Chris, you have been a great caller and, but I gotta blow you off because we got two segments
[03:31:22.840 --> 03:31:29.240]  and two callers. Okay. Thank you very much and think about
[03:31:29.240 --> 03:31:38.600]  how you can teach us how to use chat GTP. Brett, did I say that right?
[03:31:40.120 --> 03:31:45.000]  GPT. That's when I was saying GTP and you told me it was backwards.
[03:31:46.680 --> 03:31:53.800]  Oh well, chat, whatever. How do you use AI? And I use it, but it's clear
[03:31:54.600 --> 03:32:01.880]  you have to learn how to talk to it. Think about data on Star Trek.
[03:32:05.240 --> 03:32:11.160]  You had to know how to talk to data to get him to give you the information you needed.
[03:32:13.080 --> 03:32:21.800]  And AI is like that. And so think about doing it, of course, on telling us how to use it to do
[03:32:21.800 --> 03:32:29.240]  legal research. Okay, I'll share my, I'll share how I do it. Not the most efficient,
[03:32:29.240 --> 03:32:35.000]  but I'm sure it'll steer people in some direction. Okay, if it's not the most efficient,
[03:32:35.800 --> 03:32:39.000]  it's gonna be way more efficient than what I do.
[03:32:42.360 --> 03:32:48.280]  I've got literally 30 something different or 40 different things now, titles and sections
[03:32:48.280 --> 03:32:52.920]  that I'm keeping up with, but I generally keep my lawsuits under one title, but I've burnt out.
[03:32:52.920 --> 03:32:57.640]  Your threads will get so long, it'll say you've met your max. I've done that like three times
[03:32:57.640 --> 03:33:04.840]  for the appeals. I had to start over three times. But anyway, I'll be happy to share some stuff.
[03:33:04.840 --> 03:33:09.880]  Okay, thank you very much. And I'm gonna let you go now. We gotta go to get these other colleagues
[03:33:09.880 --> 03:33:13.880]  out. We're gonna run out of time. Okay, thanks guys. Appreciate it.
[03:33:13.880 --> 03:33:22.680]  Thank you, Chris. Okay, now we're gonna go to Scott in New York. Hello, Scott. What do you
[03:33:22.680 --> 03:33:30.040]  have for us today? Hey, fellas, I didn't know if the two bit retired chump had me unmuted or not.
[03:33:30.040 --> 03:33:37.400]  You just unmuted me now? Yeah, you're unmuted now. How you doing? You haven't heard from me in years,
[03:33:37.400 --> 03:33:43.720]  right? It's been a while. I've been busy, Stella, but my paperwork's been working.
[03:33:44.120 --> 03:33:50.840]  I moved to court twice, and they didn't even get to see my third document when I showed up for trial
[03:33:50.840 --> 03:33:56.840]  in landlord tenant on the 3rd of January. However... Wait a minute, wait a minute.
[03:33:56.840 --> 03:34:02.200]  You're starting in the middle of something. Give us a brief synopsis to bring us up to speed.
[03:34:04.040 --> 03:34:08.920]  Well, now I have to sit in on hold for three hours. That'll be difficult. I would have commented
[03:34:08.920 --> 03:34:14.440]  for like two hours worth of stuff. Everything you've covered was in my case. The lawyers did
[03:34:14.440 --> 03:34:20.520]  the same thing to me. They said what you were saying in your case... Oh, but they added...
[03:34:23.240 --> 03:34:28.280]  What was the word you used? Your paperwork was like rubbish. The same word they use with mine.
[03:34:29.400 --> 03:34:34.840]  They call you frivolous? Oh, frivolous. Frivolous, frivolous paperwork. They sent me...
[03:34:35.800 --> 03:34:42.680]  Anyway, let's start from the beginning because you mentioned a lot of great things like Dr.
[03:34:42.680 --> 03:34:46.680]  Joel Wallace, that woman we're talking about. Do you know who that is? He's hilarious.
[03:34:47.640 --> 03:34:55.480]  My friend is his mentor for like 35, 40 years. He works with him. He's hilarious. She should
[03:34:55.480 --> 03:35:02.920]  be interested in the Dr. Kelly story. But my case started... It's not my case. My case,
[03:35:03.000 --> 03:35:09.160]  now I can get a chance to get back to, which is a suspended license and a warrant before the Sandy
[03:35:09.160 --> 03:35:18.680]  Superstorm that I'm now in between phase, just like Chris. Is Chris the same person that was
[03:35:18.680 --> 03:35:30.200]  in Chicago that did these... Yes, he is. And Chris kicked their behinds. In 2016, he did the
[03:35:30.200 --> 03:35:39.400]  towing bill of rights. Yes, he beat them. So that's what I wanted to do seven years ago,
[03:35:39.400 --> 03:35:45.800]  eight years ago for my cases on Long Island, Nassau County. What I got going on here in the city
[03:35:45.800 --> 03:35:55.800]  is really the owner of the house that they did the Article 81 temporary guardianship two separate
[03:35:55.800 --> 03:36:02.760]  times as I just cooperated and ignored them and just acted like a witness. I never went to the
[03:36:02.760 --> 03:36:10.840]  court for nothing. Then everything switches. So many things you said on the court calls tonight
[03:36:10.840 --> 03:36:20.360]  would have tied to my case. So the deal is from the get-go, I've been overwhelmed since 2005 with
[03:36:20.360 --> 03:36:26.440]  court cases. Generally, I don't go to the court. Even with a suspended license, the target vehicle
[03:36:26.440 --> 03:36:33.640]  and stuff, I just avoid the courts. Twice I got pulled over and arrested with a warrant
[03:36:34.360 --> 03:36:41.000]  from before the Sandy Storm and they never brought me there because that court, that's where I want
[03:36:41.000 --> 03:36:48.600]  to go get my license back. So anyway, the deal is I solely single-handedly got the Article 81 temporary
[03:36:48.600 --> 03:36:55.640]  guardianship closed from one filing back in December, not this December, last December.
[03:36:56.440 --> 03:37:03.320]  It was my answer, response to when I got railroaded, I never go to court. As I said,
[03:37:03.320 --> 03:37:09.240]  I went to that court. I won't go into the details because the lady said she was threatened by the
[03:37:09.240 --> 03:37:14.920]  bad judge. So I went to court. She wouldn't put in the writing. And then they railroaded me.
[03:37:15.720 --> 03:37:23.480]  And she said, she set up a trial and she said, I have 30 days to write an answer. And if it's not
[03:37:23.480 --> 03:37:31.960]  on my answer, I can't bring it up in trial. That's been going on for seven years. So that's my answer
[03:37:31.960 --> 03:37:39.880]  that I responded to that landlord-tenant, got the, in quotes, bad judge to close the case.
[03:37:40.360 --> 03:37:47.640]  And this owner did that from me and she kept pursuing the eviction. Even though I stopped
[03:37:47.640 --> 03:37:54.920]  them from selling this house, I have two documents that were going to sell this house. And I got very
[03:37:54.920 --> 03:38:03.080]  little documents and nothing ever made sense here. And here's the killer of killer of killer of stuff.
[03:38:03.640 --> 03:38:11.320]  Cause my case was one in a billion back in 2008 from four different attorneys, one in Long Island
[03:38:11.320 --> 03:38:16.840]  and three in the zoom meeting from big New York city lawyers. And my case was dismissed in the
[03:38:16.840 --> 03:38:23.320]  interest of justice at the Supreme court, Long Island assault, where I recorded the police.
[03:38:24.120 --> 03:38:30.680]  And that way I was told that was one in a billion back then in 2008 before I knew you
[03:38:31.560 --> 03:38:36.440]  or Mark Stevens taught me that you could ask these tyrants questions. I never knew that.
[03:38:36.440 --> 03:38:43.960]  I never knew you could ask authority questions. So the deal was that's how I closed this case just
[03:38:43.960 --> 03:38:53.320]  now. I sent, I didn't actually file it. The only document I filed was the 14 page affidavit answer
[03:38:54.120 --> 03:39:01.000]  rebuttal thing for the landlord tenant after seven years, two separate times they were here. Two
[03:39:01.000 --> 03:39:07.800]  separate times showed up with a bunch of cops, bunch of locksmith and threatened to come in the
[03:39:07.800 --> 03:39:17.400]  door. So I first followed the one document, got the case dismissed. And this lady and her sister
[03:39:17.960 --> 03:39:27.800]  turns out are narcissists of the highest level, manipulating even the courts all those years,
[03:39:27.800 --> 03:39:31.480]  telling them, Scott's the problem. She doesn't have tenants because the Scott,
[03:39:31.480 --> 03:39:38.840]  she doesn't have this. And I didn't know any of this. That's how I don't have the words for what
[03:39:38.840 --> 03:39:44.520]  these women are, but both sisters, one of this owner here is a covert narcissist and the sister
[03:39:44.520 --> 03:39:51.960]  is an in-your-face narcissist, hater, sheep, gnat. I can't believe nothing ever made sense for the,
[03:39:51.960 --> 03:39:58.040]  all the years I'm here, nothing. Now everything makes sense. And the deal is to sum it up and
[03:39:58.040 --> 03:40:02.840]  quickly, because we're talking so many years of stuff. So the first document, a different judge
[03:40:03.960 --> 03:40:09.800]  and landlord tenant set for trial. And then I went to court a few times and I got a couple
[03:40:09.800 --> 03:40:15.960]  of adjournments for my health. My health has been deteriorating. So I didn't file that document. I
[03:40:15.960 --> 03:40:24.120]  showed up back in November and handed him a four page document and he refused to read it. It was
[03:40:24.120 --> 03:40:31.720]  an affidavit, also a notice. And he said, I don't have to read no affidavit. And he just asked me
[03:40:31.720 --> 03:40:37.880]  to explain it. How can I explain seven years of craziness when I had just found out
[03:40:39.720 --> 03:40:46.040]  that she was a narcissist three or four days before that court hearing? I had no idea she was a narcissist.
[03:40:46.040 --> 03:40:53.720]  Okay, hold on Scott. We're about to go to our sponsors. And at this point, I have no idea what
[03:40:53.720 --> 03:40:58.040]  you're talking about. You've been all over the place. Hang on. We'll be right back.
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[03:43:23.480 --> 03:43:43.160]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio, and we're talking to Scott
[03:43:43.160 --> 03:43:50.440]  in New York. Okay, Scott, now we've got kind of an update on where you're at. What is your question
[03:43:50.440 --> 03:44:00.040]  for us tonight? Well, that's a good question. You brought up so many things in the show
[03:44:01.400 --> 03:44:07.640]  that I really wanted to cover. So that is the same man that was on Chris that did the
[03:44:07.640 --> 03:44:11.240]  towing bill of rights, because I was just- Yes, that's the same guy.
[03:44:12.280 --> 03:44:17.480]  From 2019, there's a show on the 27th I've been trying to listen to. I see the dealers I've been
[03:44:17.480 --> 03:44:23.400]  so overwhelmed. Just to sum it up, I didn't actually do enough so you actually can understand
[03:44:23.400 --> 03:44:29.480]  just what's going on, because it's very complex. But we're running out of time. We've got one more
[03:44:29.480 --> 03:44:38.760]  caller and- Oh, the caller. I didn't even speak for 10 minutes. Can I at least close where my case
[03:44:38.760 --> 03:44:45.480]  ended? Because you mentioned on this call a few times that there's a lot of good people in the
[03:44:45.480 --> 03:44:51.720]  system. Now is the chance that our paperwork will continue to carry over as things change.
[03:44:51.720 --> 03:44:57.160]  The smallest state republic is still there. It's going to be visible soon. There's a lot going on.
[03:44:57.160 --> 03:45:03.240]  You even said it yourself. I have Inside Connect. There's a lot going on that things are going to-
[03:45:03.240 --> 03:45:08.120]  our paperwork is going to start actually working. And I have a lot of people filing paperwork that's
[03:45:08.120 --> 03:45:13.880]  not working, but I've been having success with my paperwork because there's good people in the system
[03:45:13.880 --> 03:45:21.240]  and really what it comes down to, if you don't actually understand truly what a narcissist is
[03:45:21.240 --> 03:45:27.560]  and what they're capable of and how they operate, then I can't even explain because I just found
[03:45:27.560 --> 03:45:35.400]  that out recently. But the first judge doesn't know that she's been having fraud on the court
[03:45:35.400 --> 03:45:41.640]  done to her for seven years through these two sisters and all the tenants that they brought in
[03:45:41.720 --> 03:45:46.280]  and all the witnesses. So the deal is even the court doesn't know that they've been-
[03:45:47.880 --> 03:45:54.680]  they do fraud on the court 24-7. And it comes down to I chose to go after the free lawyer in this
[03:45:54.680 --> 03:46:01.320]  case. And then when I sued him in small claims, a lot of things that you said on the call tonight
[03:46:01.320 --> 03:46:06.520]  came to through it. It's like that lawyer is a protected class. Everybody's protecting him.
[03:46:06.600 --> 03:46:13.560]  He hired four Manhattan lawyers and I wound up having to drop that case. I missed the date by
[03:46:13.560 --> 03:46:18.840]  accident. I was so busy with this eviction that should have ended when the case ended.
[03:46:18.840 --> 03:46:24.680]  The woman still kept trying to evict me even though I saved her house and shut the case
[03:46:24.680 --> 03:46:29.960]  and got the guardianship case closed, which nobody ever does. I did that alone
[03:46:30.280 --> 03:46:32.040]  and she was still trying to evict me.
[03:46:32.040 --> 03:46:37.320]  Okay, wait a minute. Stop, stop. We have an issue here.
[03:46:39.480 --> 03:46:41.080]  You've been in the fight too long.
[03:46:42.360 --> 03:46:44.120]  Oh, now the fight's done. Now-
[03:46:44.840 --> 03:46:51.000]  Okay, well, when someone's been in the fight a long time, they tend to go through all this stuff.
[03:46:52.360 --> 03:46:54.440]  Let's get to what your question is.
[03:46:55.320 --> 03:47:00.280]  Oh, well, my question is I just wanted to give you a little update and I want to do something
[03:47:00.280 --> 03:47:09.240]  maybe with my suspended license, including I want to do that towing bill of rights. I have such,
[03:47:09.240 --> 03:47:15.400]  I have video evidence of something from years ago where they suspended my license. And then
[03:47:15.400 --> 03:47:19.960]  I have something from recent where the same tenant that was the witness against me in this case
[03:47:19.960 --> 03:47:27.000]  has videos there where they recorded at the tow yard that, nope, he has an inspection and he has
[03:47:27.000 --> 03:47:31.480]  a side view mirror. They never should have pulled them over. And another recording two of them in
[03:47:31.480 --> 03:47:36.040]  the police station asking why was I pulled over? There was no reason to pull me over.
[03:47:36.040 --> 03:47:37.960]  I was set up. I had an inspection.
[03:47:37.960 --> 03:47:40.600]  Okay. I think this is about your van.
[03:47:41.880 --> 03:47:46.920]  Well, no, the deal is I haven't had a chance to go get my license back in. That was like
[03:47:46.920 --> 03:47:51.720]  a before the Sandy Superstorm. I didn't even know when that was.
[03:47:51.720 --> 03:47:57.720]  Wait a minute. You're insisting on telling us about all the bad things that happened.
[03:47:58.680 --> 03:48:01.000]  That's what happens when someone's in the fight too long.
[03:48:03.000 --> 03:48:07.480]  Yeah. You have so many bad things that happened. You need to get them out. Okay. We got that. You
[03:48:07.480 --> 03:48:11.320]  got a lot of bad things. I have a lot of good things that happened and now I have to work.
[03:48:11.320 --> 03:48:13.720]  So you're not getting to those and we're running out of time.
[03:48:14.360 --> 03:48:19.160]  Oh, I just want to say hello. I haven't been able to call into your show or any shows for years.
[03:48:19.160 --> 03:48:22.120]  I didn't know what was going on and I figured it all out.
[03:48:22.120 --> 03:48:28.120]  And I'm trying to move you along and you keep going back to all the bad things.
[03:48:28.120 --> 03:48:32.200]  That's what happens. Look, I'm not trying to be critical. Look,
[03:48:32.200 --> 03:48:38.040]  when you've been in the fight too long, it's really traumatic and it makes you nuts.
[03:48:38.760 --> 03:48:45.400]  And I know I've been there and I still haven't turned her into the city. I haven't. I could
[03:48:45.400 --> 03:48:50.200]  bring the guardianship back with one letter. What do you want from us?
[03:48:51.240 --> 03:48:54.600]  Oh, nothing. I just want to say hello and comment a little bit about.
[03:48:54.600 --> 03:49:01.960]  Oh, okay. Okay. Cause then good. Then we kind of went, we took you late. So
[03:49:01.960 --> 03:49:06.040]  uh, try us next week. And uh,
[03:49:06.040 --> 03:49:09.800]  he also had a question. He wanted to do something about his driver's license.
[03:49:10.680 --> 03:49:13.320]  Don't worry. I'll call back again. Don't worry. I'll be in touch.
[03:49:13.320 --> 03:49:17.640]  Yeah. Yeah. We'll, we'll, we'll try to take you earlier. Try to call early in the show
[03:49:18.360 --> 03:49:27.400]  so we can, we can get to you early. I called 11 35, 10 35, 9 35 tonight.
[03:49:28.040 --> 03:49:35.640]  You didn't call at eight o'clock when we started. We will, we will take you when I see you call.
[03:49:35.640 --> 03:49:38.600]  I'll, I'll take you earlier next time. Okay.
[03:49:40.120 --> 03:49:48.120]  If we've got somebody like Bob from California, we'll stick him to the last. Right, Bob?
[03:49:49.160 --> 03:49:56.600]  Well, I wish I could do telegram to hook up with Chris. Um, I, I'm going to go to, uh,
[03:49:57.240 --> 03:50:00.440]  go to the law society on telegram.
[03:50:01.640 --> 03:50:07.000]  I don't do telegram. I just got my cell phone working, but it's old flip phone type thing.
[03:50:07.000 --> 03:50:10.600]  Well, actually it's an Android in there. Um, but yeah, I haven't, I,
[03:50:10.600 --> 03:50:14.120]  you don't understand what I've been through for so many years.
[03:50:14.120 --> 03:50:18.440]  That's why I haven't been in the cold. Uh, okay. So under attack,
[03:50:18.440 --> 03:50:23.480]  then send a lady was still attacking me. Okay. No, no, don't go back into all the stuff.
[03:50:23.480 --> 03:50:26.360]  Call us back next week. And we'll take it earlier.
[03:50:29.880 --> 03:50:33.880]  Wait a minute. We've got five minutes left and we've got one more caller. Call us back next
[03:50:33.880 --> 03:50:37.720]  week. We'll take you earlier. Okay. I'll hang up cause you won't. Bye.
[03:50:42.680 --> 03:50:47.160]  Okay, Bob, what do you have for us today?
[03:50:48.360 --> 03:50:53.160]  Well, I wanted to talk about what Chris was talking about cases being remanded.
[03:50:54.440 --> 03:50:59.000]  And also about what you were talking about. They kind of play in together.
[03:50:59.720 --> 03:51:08.040]  And I don't know if you remember in 2020, I had a case remanded in traffic court.
[03:51:08.920 --> 03:51:19.480]  And I'm sure it wasn't because of my great appeal. As much as it was that I filed criminal
[03:51:19.480 --> 03:51:31.480]  complaints against the DA, the presiding judge and two other judges and to the assistant DA
[03:51:32.280 --> 03:51:38.600]  in Contra Costa County. And my case got dismissed.
[03:51:40.120 --> 03:51:42.920]  I'm not. Yeah. Funny how that happens.
[03:51:43.720 --> 03:51:52.040]  Yeah. Anyway, that was for what I heard Chris talking about that the criminal complaints that
[03:51:52.040 --> 03:52:00.040]  you're talking about are the way to handle them does work because I had never wrote an appeal
[03:52:00.040 --> 03:52:07.480]  brief in my life. And I'm sure it wasn't that the appeal brief was that good to get it remanded.
[03:52:08.200 --> 03:52:13.080]  But when I walked in the court, they just missed the case.
[03:52:14.760 --> 03:52:17.480]  And I used a criminal complaint.
[03:52:18.680 --> 03:52:25.080]  They wanted to get you off is the prosecutor's case.
[03:52:28.600 --> 03:52:35.880]  Yeah, that's the only strategy I've found that gets their attention.
[03:52:37.640 --> 03:52:44.280]  If you come in as a defendant, they're going to grind you into the dirt.
[03:52:46.280 --> 03:52:50.440]  So if they want to fight, well, let's have one.
[03:52:52.280 --> 03:52:55.080]  And it turns out these guys don't like a fair fight.
[03:52:55.720 --> 03:53:00.840]  Well, I think part of it is because they watch the system grind everybody into dirt
[03:53:00.840 --> 03:53:05.560]  day in day out and they know it's not right in their gut. They know that's not justice.
[03:53:07.560 --> 03:53:09.640]  And they would hate to have that happen to them.
[03:53:11.080 --> 03:53:16.120]  So if it starts to look like, oh my gosh, I'm going to be a defendant,
[03:53:17.880 --> 03:53:23.000]  then I think that very factor is what makes it seem more scary.
[03:53:25.560 --> 03:53:33.240]  And then my experience that the police and the people in the system are more afraid of the system
[03:53:33.880 --> 03:53:41.720]  than you and I are. They're inside it all the time, especially police.
[03:53:43.160 --> 03:53:49.400]  The only time a policeman gets prosecuted if he is a real stinker.
[03:53:50.760 --> 03:53:56.120]  And they got to get rid of him because he's going to cause the bond carrier to raise the bond rating.
[03:53:56.440 --> 03:54:00.920]  So they go after him and they just crucify him.
[03:54:02.040 --> 03:54:09.320]  And these other cops are watching this and the only time they see a policeman prosecuted at all,
[03:54:09.320 --> 03:54:16.440]  he gets crucified. Now they don't understand that this guy's a real problem and they're just trying
[03:54:16.440 --> 03:54:23.320]  to get rid of him. They think that if the system comes after you, they're going to crucify you.
[03:54:23.320 --> 03:54:25.080]  So they're more afraid of it than you are.
[03:54:27.240 --> 03:54:31.000]  And Brett and I have been using that for a long time against them.
[03:54:33.000 --> 03:54:35.000]  And Bob, you've been using it as well.
[03:54:35.000 --> 03:54:42.200]  I just recently used a similar thing against the police.
[03:54:43.800 --> 03:54:48.280]  They were parking illegally in a little honeypot where they were nailing people
[03:54:49.080 --> 03:54:51.400]  and they nailed me. Well.
[03:54:52.920 --> 03:54:56.360]  But I have a way. You already know how to win every case.
[03:54:57.080 --> 03:55:03.400]  All you have to do is send the prosecutor a picture of your hemorrhoid operation.
[03:55:05.160 --> 03:55:10.200]  The guy, he did that to me.
[03:55:12.520 --> 03:55:16.760]  He sends me this email and I open it up and it's a picture of his
[03:55:16.760 --> 03:55:20.200]  hemorrhoid. You can never scrape that off the back of your eye.
[03:55:21.080 --> 03:55:23.000]  Who would do such a thing?
[03:55:23.000 --> 03:55:27.000]  That's just wrong. Bob, you ought to be ashamed of yourself.
[03:55:28.920 --> 03:55:30.600]  Send that to every prosecutor.
[03:55:30.760 --> 03:55:36.840]  This is this is me after I had you excised.
[03:55:39.400 --> 03:55:43.000]  OK, thanks, Bob. We're out of time.
[03:55:43.000 --> 03:55:44.600]  Thank you all for listening.
[03:55:44.600 --> 03:55:47.000]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Wheel of Our Radio.
[03:55:47.800 --> 03:55:50.840]  Good night.