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[00:00.000 --> 00:03.000] Bad Boys, Bad Boys, Whatcha Gonna Do?
[00:30.000 --> 00:32.000] Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[00:32.000 --> 00:34.000] Bad boys, bad boys
[00:34.000 --> 00:36.000] Whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do
[00:36.000 --> 00:38.000] When they come for you?
[00:38.000 --> 00:40.000] When you were eight and you had bad traits
[00:40.000 --> 00:42.000] You go to school and learn the golden rule
[00:42.000 --> 00:46.000] So why are you acting like a bloody fool?
[00:46.000 --> 00:48.000] If you get hot then you must get cool
[00:48.000 --> 00:50.000] Bad boys, bad boys
[00:50.000 --> 00:52.000] Whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do
[00:52.000 --> 00:54.000] When they come for you?
[00:54.000 --> 00:56.000] Bad boys, bad boys
[00:56.000 --> 00:58.000] Whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do
[00:58.000 --> 01:00.000] When they come for you?
[01:00.000 --> 01:02.000] You chuck it on that one, you chuck it on this one
[01:02.000 --> 01:06.000] You chuck it on your mother and you chuck it on your father
[01:28.000 --> 01:40.000] Okay, we are making headway
[01:40.000 --> 01:44.000] Things are moving, we got the suit we filed worked
[01:44.000 --> 01:52.000] Got the judges doing probable cause determinations
[01:52.000 --> 01:54.000] They're not doing it right
[01:54.000 --> 01:56.000] But they're doing it
[01:56.000 --> 02:00.000] And even if we don't get any further
[02:00.000 --> 02:04.000] Policemen now look at the prospect
[02:04.000 --> 02:07.000] Of someone other than the prosecutor
[02:07.000 --> 02:11.000] Looking at their probable cause statements
[02:11.000 --> 02:13.000] Prosecutors never bothered to look at them
[02:13.000 --> 02:15.000] They didn't care
[02:15.000 --> 02:18.000] As long as they get lots of charges stacked up
[02:18.000 --> 02:24.000] That they can use to coerce the individual into taking a deal
[02:24.000 --> 02:26.000] They didn't care what was in the statement
[02:26.000 --> 02:28.000] Nobody ever looked at it
[02:28.000 --> 02:32.000] Police would say and do anything they wanted to and be supported
[02:32.000 --> 02:38.000] Now they got judges looking who have been told
[02:38.000 --> 02:41.000] They have to make a determination of probable cause
[02:41.000 --> 02:46.000] Okay, they weren't told to do it exactly right
[02:46.000 --> 02:48.000] We'll get there
[02:48.000 --> 02:50.000] But they're doing it
[02:50.000 --> 02:54.000] Yeah, and the justices of the peace who do this
[02:54.000 --> 02:56.000] Whether they're doing it right or not
[02:56.000 --> 02:59.000] These are elected officials
[02:59.000 --> 03:03.000] So it's good to note from a policeman's standpoint
[03:03.000 --> 03:08.000] This review, even though it's not happening properly yet
[03:08.000 --> 03:13.000] This review is happening by somebody who's responsive to the electorate
[03:13.000 --> 03:19.000] Not somebody who was hired by the same company as the cop
[03:19.000 --> 03:25.000] To push all this through and get people to rake in the revenue
[03:25.000 --> 03:32.000] The city has what they call a prosecutor, a city attorney
[03:32.000 --> 03:39.000] And they're not elected, they're hired by the same city
[03:39.000 --> 03:48.000] So the policeman has a sense that this city attorney is going to be biased
[03:48.000 --> 03:50.000] What do you know? He is
[03:50.000 --> 03:55.000] There's a technical phrase to describe that
[03:55.000 --> 03:59.000] Conflict of interest?
[03:59.000 --> 04:03.000] No, they've all got their snouts in the same trough
[04:03.000 --> 04:06.000] Yes, that's the technical version
[04:06.000 --> 04:08.000] Yeah, yep, yep
[04:08.000 --> 04:13.000] But now they've got a magistrate in between
[04:13.000 --> 04:17.000] And it doesn't, you know
[04:17.000 --> 04:21.000] At the end of the day
[04:21.000 --> 04:27.000] For the most part, the magistrates will rule in favor of the policeman
[04:27.000 --> 04:30.000] If the policeman is acting in any way professional
[04:30.000 --> 04:33.000] But I've been watching this Judge Flashman
[04:33.000 --> 04:38.000] A flasher or flashman in Houston
[04:38.000 --> 04:43.000] And he's actually doing probable cause determinations
[04:43.000 --> 04:52.000] And he's looking at these and actually paying attention to what the policemen's claim
[04:53.000 --> 05:00.000] And in one, a guy hit a mailbox in an apartment complex
[05:00.000 --> 05:03.000] And it's two in the morning, nobody around
[05:03.000 --> 05:05.000] He called his insurance company, they didn't show up
[05:05.000 --> 05:08.000] So he went back to his house and went to bed
[05:08.000 --> 05:11.000] He was going to get a hold of him the next morning
[05:11.000 --> 05:15.000] And his cop sees the car that is damaged
[05:15.000 --> 05:20.000] And goes in the house and the prosecutor's reading what he did
[05:20.000 --> 05:23.000] Said he checked the garage, he wasn't there
[05:23.000 --> 05:26.000] And the garage door was open to the house
[05:26.000 --> 05:29.000] And he went to the house and the door wasn't locked
[05:29.000 --> 05:33.000] And the judge said, whoa, whoa
[05:33.000 --> 05:36.000] And the prosecutor went on, he went in
[05:36.000 --> 05:39.000] And the guy was in bed and he woke the guy up
[05:39.000 --> 05:43.000] And the judge is saying, whoa, whoa
[05:43.000 --> 05:47.000] And the crux was, what were you doing?
[05:47.000 --> 05:50.000] You can't go in this guy's house
[05:50.000 --> 05:58.000] So the cop kind of felt like he's accustomed to doing anything he wants to, nobody questions
[05:58.000 --> 06:05.000] All of a sudden he's got the judge's question, he throws everything out
[06:05.000 --> 06:13.000] Now the cop has to explain to the prosecutor and his boss why his charges got thrown out
[06:13.000 --> 06:20.000] All of a sudden there's consequences
[06:20.000 --> 06:25.000] So while I don't like the way they're doing it, it's not perfect
[06:25.000 --> 06:27.000] At least they're doing something
[06:27.000 --> 06:31.000] Now we move ahead
[06:31.000 --> 06:38.000] What I'm doing now is I'm going to try to get the state of Texas
[06:38.000 --> 06:47.000] To issue a referendum or a statement of intent or legislation if I have to
[06:47.000 --> 07:00.000] That would require the grand jury to hold their doors open for citizens at least one time a month
[07:00.000 --> 07:04.000] Whether anybody shows up or not
[07:04.000 --> 07:06.000] That's great
[07:06.000 --> 07:08.000] Oh, they used to do that
[07:08.000 --> 07:11.000] When I first moved to Texas, they did that in Fort Worth
[07:11.000 --> 07:14.000] And then they stopped doing it because nobody showed up
[07:14.000 --> 07:17.000] So I want to get that put back
[07:17.000 --> 07:23.000] Well, what if you start with the presumption that they must be doing it right and we're just not getting notice
[07:23.000 --> 07:27.000] So they need to more clearly give notice to the public
[07:27.000 --> 07:30.000] Of where the times are that they're available to the public
[07:30.000 --> 07:33.000] Oh, they're definitely blocking
[07:34.000 --> 07:41.000] Well, you and I know that, but that's something that they might prefer to just sweep under the rug
[07:41.000 --> 07:44.000] And say, oh yeah, we were doing it right, you just didn't have notice
[07:44.000 --> 07:46.000] That's right, that's all we need to do
[07:46.000 --> 07:48.000] And they might feel a little better about that
[07:48.000 --> 07:52.000] Well, I'm going to go test it
[07:52.000 --> 07:55.000] I'm going to go down to Tarrant County
[07:55.000 --> 08:01.000] And I'll go to a JP and give him some criminal complaints
[08:01.000 --> 08:05.000] I'll come up with some reason to give him some criminal complaints
[08:05.000 --> 08:11.000] And the magistrate will refuse to issue a warrant, which is standard procedure
[08:11.000 --> 08:13.000] Then I'll go down to the grand jury
[08:13.000 --> 08:17.000] Well, my picture used to be hanging up in the grand jury room
[08:17.000 --> 08:21.000] But it's not anymore, I don't think it is anyway
[08:21.000 --> 08:28.000] So I'm going to go down there and tell the bailiff to instruct the foreman that I have business with the grand jury
[08:28.000 --> 08:32.000] And he's going to tell me to go to the prosecuting attorney
[08:32.000 --> 08:38.000] And I'm going to tell him, no, you instruct the foreman that I have business with the grand jury
[08:38.000 --> 08:43.000] And he's going to refuse and I'm going to call 911
[08:43.000 --> 08:52.000] And make a charge against the bailiff for jury tampering
[08:52.000 --> 08:56.000] Something, official oppression, I'll make up something for him
[08:56.000 --> 08:59.000] For blocking my access to the grand jury
[08:59.000 --> 09:03.000] It's probably official oppression, exerting authority he doesn't have
[09:03.000 --> 09:10.000] It's acting to shield the accused from prosecution
[09:10.000 --> 09:15.000] And that I will run through the state
[09:15.000 --> 09:19.000] And then from the state I'll go to the Fed
[09:19.000 --> 09:30.000] I have a contact in New Jersey who has just helped Cash Patel finish up a book that he was writing
[09:30.000 --> 09:34.000] So this woman has a good contact with him
[09:34.000 --> 09:41.000] I'm going to file criminal charges against the Fifth Circuit judges who dismissed my case
[09:41.000 --> 09:46.000] And against a judge in Utah
[09:46.000 --> 09:51.000] I'll send complaints to the grand jury in Utah
[09:51.000 --> 09:55.000] And get Utah to shield them from the grand jury
[09:55.000 --> 09:59.000] And hopefully get them to call me and threaten me and do all that kind of stuff
[09:59.000 --> 10:04.000] And then I'll file against the Fifth Circuit here in Dallas
[10:04.000 --> 10:08.000] In Fort Worth, they actually have a court in Fort Worth, so I'll go to Fort Worth
[10:08.000 --> 10:16.000] And I've already called the FBI and was told by the FBI that they do not take complaints from private citizens
[10:16.000 --> 10:22.000] So, since they can't do that, then the only place left is the grand jury
[10:22.000 --> 10:27.000] So I'll go down to Fort Worth
[10:27.000 --> 10:30.000] And do they have a grand jury in Fort Worth?
[10:30.000 --> 10:32.000] Yes, they do
[10:32.000 --> 10:33.000] Good
[10:33.000 --> 10:38.000] I actually filed criminal complaints against the foreman one time
[10:38.000 --> 10:46.000] Good, okay, I'll go down there and get the US Marshals to give me some crapola
[10:46.000 --> 10:53.000] And then I'll call the state police and charge these guys with official oppression
[10:53.000 --> 11:00.000] Because the US courthouse is not a federal enclave
[11:00.000 --> 11:06.000] It does not belong, it has not been relinquished to the feds by the state
[11:06.000 --> 11:11.000] So the US Marshals are in this state
[11:11.000 --> 11:20.000] So I'll call an officer down and insist that he arrest these US Marshals
[11:20.000 --> 11:23.000] That should get interesting
[11:23.000 --> 11:31.000] But I'm hoping I've got some folks in the Fort Worth area who will come down there and end the videos
[11:31.000 --> 11:36.000] So I'm not by myself so they don't beat me into unconsciousness
[11:36.000 --> 11:44.000] And then I'll run those through the routine, get them to block me from the grand jury
[11:44.000 --> 11:52.000] Once I get the US attorney to block me from the grand jury, then I'll file with our new attorney general in DC
[11:52.000 --> 11:59.000] And see if I can get an audience with some of the higher-ups in the attorney general's office
[11:59.000 --> 12:02.000] Because I want to try to convince them
[12:02.000 --> 12:11.000] You open that grand jury, say once a month, to the general public
[12:11.000 --> 12:20.000] Everything that's going wrong, all the shenanigans public officials are pulling, somebody knows about it
[12:20.000 --> 12:27.000] But prosecutors have been shielding the grand jury from the public
[12:27.000 --> 12:39.000] I'm going to argue when I sue the US attorney in DC for jury tampering, for blocking my access to the grand jury
[12:39.000 --> 12:46.000] I will allege that they converted this republic into a democracy
[12:46.000 --> 12:56.000] By blocking me from a grand jury, that eliminated a primary defense against bad law and bad government
[12:56.000 --> 13:02.000] Yeah, and they're trying to take this, what's the fourth branch of government?
[13:02.000 --> 13:06.000] They're trying to take that away and bundle it up under the prosecutor
[13:07.000 --> 13:21.000] And since, who was it, the Montgomery v. State, the one that was murdered, the federal judge that was murdered, Scalia
[13:21.000 --> 13:29.000] He's the one that said that the grand jury is essentially a fourth branch of government
[13:29.000 --> 13:35.000] It's not a part of the judicial, executive, or the legislative
[13:35.000 --> 13:45.000] So for the judicial to block me from a different branch of government, that's going to make a great issue to push to the Fed
[13:45.000 --> 13:53.000] See if I can get them to open up the grand jury, that I believe will change everything
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[16:23.000 --> 16:40.000] The world is spinning like it's out of control
[16:40.000 --> 16:41.000] On the edge of a hole
[16:41.000 --> 16:44.000] Hey, Randy Hilton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio
[16:44.000 --> 16:52.000] And we're planning a strategy to get grand juries back in place
[16:52.000 --> 16:55.000] Now, I've done a lot of work on this in the past
[16:55.000 --> 17:02.000] And I actually got to the grand jury in Johnson County
[17:02.000 --> 17:05.000] That's down in Cleburne
[17:05.000 --> 17:12.000] The grand jury, after they have voted, is required to come before the court
[17:12.000 --> 17:14.000] With a quorum of the grand jury present
[17:14.000 --> 17:17.000] Come before the court or the clerk
[17:17.000 --> 17:19.000] With a quorum of the grand jury present
[17:19.000 --> 17:21.000] And they did that
[17:21.000 --> 17:25.000] And they came before the court, convened a hearing
[17:25.000 --> 17:29.000] And I was sitting in here in the court
[17:29.000 --> 17:32.000] Everybody's looking over me like, who is that?
[17:32.000 --> 17:39.000] And the grand jury comes in, the foreman reads all the true bills onto the record
[17:39.000 --> 17:42.000] The clerk makes notes in the minutes of the court
[17:42.000 --> 17:47.000] When they finish, the judge said, does the grand jury have any further business?
[17:47.000 --> 17:50.000] And the foreman said, no, Your Honor, we do not
[17:50.000 --> 17:54.000] And I stood up in the courtroom and said, yes, you do
[17:54.000 --> 17:57.000] The judge said, who are you? I'm Randy Hilton
[17:57.000 --> 18:00.000] What business do you have with this grand jury?
[18:00.000 --> 18:07.000] Well, the prosecutor district attorney and assistant district attorney were sitting there
[18:07.000 --> 18:08.000] And they're ducking and dodging
[18:08.000 --> 18:11.000] They know exactly what my business is
[18:11.000 --> 18:14.000] I said, well, Your Honor, I have some criminal complaints
[18:14.000 --> 18:17.000] To file against some public officials
[18:17.000 --> 18:19.000] And which officials are those?
[18:19.000 --> 18:24.000] Well, this prosecutor's assistant district attorney here
[18:24.000 --> 18:27.000] And this district attorney here
[18:27.000 --> 18:31.000] And you, Judge
[18:31.000 --> 18:34.000] It was glorious
[18:34.000 --> 18:38.000] The judge just froze in his tracks
[18:38.000 --> 18:44.000] He's looking at me like, you just bushwhacked me in front of my own grand jury
[18:44.000 --> 18:47.000] Yes, as a matter of fact, I did
[18:47.000 --> 18:53.000] And they set a time to hear my complaints
[18:53.000 --> 19:01.000] And I was called into the grand jury to present the district attorney to the grand jury
[19:01.000 --> 19:08.000] And when I went down to the courthouse
[19:08.000 --> 19:13.000] I had given them complaints
[19:13.000 --> 19:16.000] And found out when the grand jury was going to meet
[19:16.000 --> 19:21.000] I called the prosecutor that day and asked her when the grand jury was going to meet
[19:21.000 --> 19:23.000] She said, oh, Mr. Kelton, you're too late
[19:23.000 --> 19:25.000] They just met yesterday
[19:25.000 --> 19:27.000] Lie your pants on fire
[19:27.000 --> 19:29.000] I already talked to the clerk
[19:29.000 --> 19:33.000] They were in the basement meeting as we were speaking
[19:33.000 --> 19:39.000] And I said, oh, well, that's too bad
[19:39.000 --> 19:43.000] And then a few hours later she's in a court hearing
[19:43.000 --> 19:45.000] Talking to the judge
[19:45.000 --> 19:49.000] And she turns around and there I am sitting in the court
[19:49.000 --> 19:52.000] And she was just like something out of a cartoon
[19:52.000 --> 19:54.000] She's turning
[19:54.000 --> 20:00.000] And sees me and her emotions just ground to a halt
[20:00.000 --> 20:06.000] She froze for a few seconds and then ran over to her assistant
[20:06.000 --> 20:10.000] And jibber jabber jibber jabber and the assistant shot out of the courtroom
[20:10.000 --> 20:13.000] I knew what they were doing
[20:13.000 --> 20:17.000] They were taking my complaints that I gave them to give to the grand jury
[20:17.000 --> 20:21.000] And taking it and giving it to the grand jury
[20:21.000 --> 20:23.000] Too late
[20:23.000 --> 20:25.000] Better hurry up
[20:25.000 --> 20:27.000] I already did that
[20:27.000 --> 20:29.000] You're a little late
[20:29.000 --> 20:33.000] When I got there I went down to where the grand jury meets
[20:33.000 --> 20:36.000] And told the foreman my name's Randy Kelton struck the foreman
[20:36.000 --> 20:39.000] I have business with the grand jury
[20:39.000 --> 20:42.000] Can I tell him the nature of the business?
[20:42.000 --> 20:45.000] He knew exactly what the nature of the business was
[20:45.000 --> 20:47.000] This bailiff really hated me
[20:47.000 --> 20:50.000] I had to crawl down his throat a time or two
[20:50.000 --> 20:52.000] I said yes you can give him this
[20:52.000 --> 20:56.000] And I gave him a folder about two inches thick
[20:56.000 --> 20:59.000] And he looked at the folder and he looked at me
[20:59.000 --> 21:03.000] And looked at the folder and I said I know what you're thinking
[21:03.000 --> 21:09.000] You're thinking I should go talk to the district attorney
[21:09.000 --> 21:11.000] Bad idea
[21:11.000 --> 21:15.000] These complaints are against the district attorney
[21:15.000 --> 21:19.000] Well I'll just see what the foreman of the grand jury has to say
[21:19.000 --> 21:21.000] Good idea
[21:21.000 --> 21:23.000] So he goes in and gives it to him
[21:23.000 --> 21:25.000] And I'm sitting there waiting
[21:25.000 --> 21:30.000] And this little short guy had a prosecutor who was about five foot four
[21:30.000 --> 21:34.000] He's always standing up on his tippy toes trying to look taller
[21:34.000 --> 21:37.000] He come down and started to go into the jury room
[21:37.000 --> 21:40.000] And I stood up and said hold on
[21:40.000 --> 21:43.000] You do not want to go in there
[21:43.000 --> 21:46.000] They're deliberating on charges against your boss
[21:46.000 --> 21:48.000] You need to stay out of there
[21:48.000 --> 21:50.000] I'm going to go talk to the grand jury
[21:50.000 --> 21:52.000] Well before you do that
[21:52.000 --> 21:54.000] You might want to go up to your office
[21:54.000 --> 21:57.000] Get out your resume and dust it off
[21:57.000 --> 21:59.000] Because you're going to need it
[21:59.000 --> 22:02.000] He just goes on into the grand jury room
[22:02.000 --> 22:04.000] So they no-billed him
[22:04.000 --> 22:06.000] Well they called me in
[22:06.000 --> 22:10.000] And clearly the foreman was furious
[22:10.000 --> 22:14.000] Mr. Kelton what do you have against the district attorney?
[22:14.000 --> 22:16.000] Oh I don't have anything against him
[22:16.000 --> 22:18.000] He never prosecuted me
[22:18.000 --> 22:20.000] He never prosecuted anybody I know
[22:20.000 --> 22:22.000] I don't have any problem with him at all
[22:22.000 --> 22:24.000] Then why are you here?
[22:24.000 --> 22:28.000] Well he violated some law
[22:28.000 --> 22:32.000] That's why I'm here but I don't want him prosecuted
[22:32.000 --> 22:35.000] Well if you don't want him prosecuted why are you here?
[22:35.000 --> 22:39.000] Well because I'm here
[22:39.000 --> 22:42.000] And he's out there
[22:42.000 --> 22:46.000] Wondering if you're going to end his career tomorrow
[22:46.000 --> 22:48.000] That's all I need
[22:48.000 --> 22:51.000] I'm glad I'm not in your shoes
[22:51.000 --> 22:55.000] You have to decide whether or not I've given you enough information to believe
[22:55.000 --> 22:58.000] A crime has been committed and that he committed it
[22:58.000 --> 23:00.000] I'm glad I don't have to do that
[23:00.000 --> 23:02.000] Oh boy he was furious
[23:02.000 --> 23:06.000] So they no-billed him
[23:06.000 --> 23:10.000] Then he finds out his assistant DA went in there
[23:10.000 --> 23:14.000] Talked to the grand jury while they were deliberating
[23:14.000 --> 23:18.000] Deliberating on complaints against him
[23:18.000 --> 23:22.000] I come back two days later and this guy's gone
[23:22.000 --> 23:27.000] So after I talked to the grand jury I went upstairs
[23:27.000 --> 23:29.000] I'm waiting to see what they rule
[23:29.000 --> 23:34.000] And I went and sat down in the courtroom and that's when the prosecutor saw me
[23:34.000 --> 23:36.000] Oh crap
[23:36.000 --> 23:38.000] She's going to run down with these complaints
[23:38.000 --> 23:40.000] It's too late for that
[23:40.000 --> 23:44.000] And then I go out in the hall and there's a sergeant out there
[23:44.000 --> 23:46.000] And he was a pretty good guy
[23:46.000 --> 23:48.000] I got along with him really well
[23:48.000 --> 23:50.000] He knew how to handle me
[23:50.000 --> 23:52.000] He didn't cop an attitude
[23:52.000 --> 23:54.000] He dealt with me like a human being
[23:54.000 --> 23:56.000] Never had any problem with me
[23:56.000 --> 24:01.000] And he said Mr. Kelton you seem like a personable individual
[24:01.000 --> 24:03.000] I said well I try to be
[24:03.000 --> 24:06.000] He said you mind if I give you a little advice
[24:06.000 --> 24:07.000] Well sure
[24:07.000 --> 24:11.000] When you come down here poking the bear the way you do
[24:11.000 --> 24:13.000] You really need to be careful
[24:13.000 --> 24:15.000] Oh don't worry sergeant
[24:15.000 --> 24:17.000] I am always very careful
[24:17.000 --> 24:21.000] Besides you don't understand
[24:21.000 --> 24:24.000] I am the bear
[24:24.000 --> 24:27.000] And he kind of chuckled and he said
[24:27.000 --> 24:32.000] Yes Mr. Kelton today you are the bear
[24:32.000 --> 24:35.000] About five years later
[24:35.000 --> 24:37.000] I had somebody contact me
[24:37.000 --> 24:39.000] He's in a foreclosure issue
[24:39.000 --> 24:41.000] I helped him with some documents
[24:41.000 --> 24:45.000] He took him down to Philo and the clerk wouldn't file the documents
[24:45.000 --> 24:48.000] He called me all upset about it
[24:48.000 --> 24:50.000] And I said well go to the sheriff's office
[24:50.000 --> 24:52.000] And file charges against her
[24:52.000 --> 24:54.000] Oh they won't do anything
[24:54.000 --> 24:56.000] I said no guys this is Randall County
[24:56.000 --> 24:58.000] They'll do something
[24:58.000 --> 25:00.000] He goes down and tells the sheriff that he
[25:00.000 --> 25:04.000] Tried to file these motions in his case
[25:04.000 --> 25:08.000] And the clerk refused to accept him
[25:08.000 --> 25:11.000] The clerk they had got him this captain
[25:11.000 --> 25:13.000] The captain said are you in a hurry
[25:13.000 --> 25:15.000] He said no I'm not
[25:15.000 --> 25:19.000] If you'll wait here I'll go check this out
[25:19.000 --> 25:22.000] He's gone about 30 minutes he comes back
[25:22.000 --> 25:25.000] And he said the clerk said if you will
[25:25.000 --> 25:28.000] That there was a mistake if you will come down in the morning
[25:28.000 --> 25:31.000] He will take your filings
[25:31.000 --> 25:33.000] They had already closed
[25:33.000 --> 25:35.000] He went down the next day and said they were
[25:35.000 --> 25:38.000] Bending over backwards to be nice to him
[25:38.000 --> 25:40.000] Yeah how about that
[25:40.000 --> 25:43.000] That district attorney told them
[25:43.000 --> 25:47.000] If you get a complaint against a public official
[25:47.000 --> 25:49.000] You bring that to me
[25:49.000 --> 25:51.000] Do not screw with it
[25:51.000 --> 25:54.000] I'm not going here again
[25:54.000 --> 25:57.000] So it works
[25:57.000 --> 26:01.000] We step in the middle of them it works
[26:01.000 --> 26:05.000] We sued all the highest judges in Texas
[26:05.000 --> 26:09.000] They got another corrupt judge set of judges to throw it out
[26:09.000 --> 26:14.000] But to keep me from suing them again
[26:14.000 --> 26:17.000] They changed the bench book
[26:17.000 --> 26:20.000] We can do this
[26:20.000 --> 26:23.000] So now got that part in
[26:23.000 --> 26:27.000] Now we pry open the door to the grand jury
[26:27.000 --> 26:30.000] And if we get people that will
[26:30.000 --> 26:33.000] Actually go to the grand jury
[26:33.000 --> 26:36.000] And ripe, raise cane
[26:36.000 --> 26:39.000] Jump up and down and rail in righteous indignation
[26:39.000 --> 26:42.000] Whether we get these guys indicted or not
[26:42.000 --> 26:47.000] We're going to scare them with Jesus out of them
[26:47.000 --> 26:49.000] Let's start getting our acts straight
[26:49.000 --> 26:52.000] That's my story and I'm sticking to it
[26:52.000 --> 26:54.000] We've got some callers, Tina
[26:54.000 --> 26:56.000] We'll pick you up on the other side
[26:56.000 --> 26:58.000] Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain
[26:58.000 --> 27:00.000] We'll be right back
[27:02.000 --> 27:05.000] It's clear cell phones have changed the way we live and work
[27:05.000 --> 27:07.000] But have they negatively affected our health?
[27:07.000 --> 27:09.000] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht
[27:09.000 --> 27:11.000] And I'll be back in just a moment with new findings
[27:11.000 --> 27:15.000] About how cell phones may actually alter our brain chemistry
[27:15.000 --> 27:17.000] Privacy is under attack
[27:17.000 --> 27:19.000] When you give up data about yourself
[27:19.000 --> 27:21.000] You'll never get it back again
[27:21.000 --> 27:24.000] If you keep on, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too
[27:24.000 --> 27:26.000] So protect your rights
[27:26.000 --> 27:29.000] Say no to surveillance and keep your information to yourself
[27:29.000 --> 27:32.000] Privacy, it's worth hanging on to
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[27:43.000 --> 27:46.000] Cell phones emit radio frequency energy
[27:46.000 --> 27:47.000] It's a fact
[27:47.000 --> 27:49.000] But whether it's dangerous to have a phone
[27:49.000 --> 27:52.000] This kind of radiation near your head has been disputed
[27:52.000 --> 27:54.000] Some have blamed it for brain tumors
[27:54.000 --> 27:56.000] While cell phone companies have downplayed concerns
[27:56.000 --> 27:59.000] Well, now the Journal of the American Medical Association
[27:59.000 --> 28:02.000] Is confirming that cell phones affect brain chemistry
[28:02.000 --> 28:06.000] A study of 47 volunteers showed that glucose metabolism
[28:06.000 --> 28:09.000] In the area of the brain closest to the cell phone antenna
[28:09.000 --> 28:11.000] Increases when the cell phone is on
[28:11.000 --> 28:14.000] While researchers aren't sure whether this exposure causes damage
[28:14.000 --> 28:16.000] I'm not taking any chances
[28:16.000 --> 28:18.000] I always keep the phone far from my body
[28:18.000 --> 28:20.000] I use a corded headset
[28:20.000 --> 28:21.000] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht
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[31:35.000 --> 31:38.440] You told us yesterday you had some crowing to do.
[31:38.440 --> 31:45.840] Just a little crowing, but you know every step is a step in the right direction.
[31:45.840 --> 31:54.000] And this is in relation to the consignment store that defrauded more than 70 people where
[31:54.000 --> 32:00.520] I had filed an adversary proceeding and actually won that adversary proceeding after a four-year
[32:00.520 --> 32:11.440] battle, which is 99% of Chapter 7s go through without a hitch within a few months.
[32:11.440 --> 32:14.920] This lasted four years and it was denied.
[32:14.920 --> 32:16.560] We got a judgment.
[32:16.560 --> 32:22.600] The judges filed a Chapter 13 three days after the judgment was ordered.
[32:22.600 --> 32:28.920] So I fought that and the judge said, well, they're trying their best.
[32:29.160 --> 32:30.680] They're doing better.
[32:30.680 --> 32:33.280] They're trying to make a plan.
[32:33.280 --> 32:35.400] Well, no, really.
[32:35.400 --> 32:41.120] If they really wanted to make a plan and attempt to pay all the debt as fairly as they stated
[32:41.120 --> 32:47.520] in their papers, they would never have tried to file the Chapter 7 to dismiss all that debt.
[32:47.520 --> 32:48.800] Exactly.
[32:48.800 --> 32:53.400] Yeah, one would like to give their fellow man the benefit of the doubt and imagine that
[32:53.400 --> 32:54.400] they're doing their best.
[32:54.400 --> 32:59.320] However, the fruits of their actions are clear.
[32:59.320 --> 33:08.560] So I filed an appeal to, because I asked for at least her to be dismissed from the bankruptcy
[33:08.560 --> 33:11.680] after she was convicted of the felony embezzlement.
[33:11.680 --> 33:19.160] And we were awarded restitution, which is you can never discharge in bankruptcy and
[33:19.160 --> 33:21.480] neither can our civil judgment.
[33:21.480 --> 33:28.480] But anyway, they suddenly, after I filed the appeal and I put all this in the appeal,
[33:28.480 --> 33:31.240] I really think I did a pretty good job.
[33:31.240 --> 33:36.720] If I say so myself, because I called out the attorney, I called out them.
[33:36.720 --> 33:42.400] And all of a sudden, they voluntarily dismissed their Chapter 13.
[33:42.400 --> 33:43.880] Now, isn't that odd?
[33:43.880 --> 33:46.720] They were in protection.
[33:46.800 --> 33:54.320] Now, I'm thinking that their attorney decided he was going to need about $10,000 to answer
[33:54.320 --> 34:01.920] the appeal, because appeals are very expensive to, you know, if you hire an attorney to fire
[34:01.920 --> 34:06.240] one, they will insist on $10,000 to start.
[34:06.240 --> 34:13.160] And so that is my presumption that they did that, but I'm not sure exactly.
[34:13.160 --> 34:20.120] So right now, I've hired a collection agency to go to try and attach at least one of their
[34:20.120 --> 34:21.560] wages.
[34:21.560 --> 34:25.600] But in the meantime, it actually happened on my birthday.
[34:25.600 --> 34:38.160] I got a check from the, you know, our county's probation department in the grand sum of $48.93
[34:38.160 --> 34:41.640] as part of the first part of my restitution payment.
[34:41.640 --> 34:48.640] And then I got a second check, I think, three weeks later for the same amount, you know.
[34:48.640 --> 34:56.000] And she's only paid $200 in the last seven months towards this criminal restitution.
[34:56.000 --> 34:58.120] But at least I got two checks.
[34:58.120 --> 35:04.040] And the probation department said, nobody ever, you know, goes as far as you guys did.
[35:04.040 --> 35:09.920] They just don't, they give up because they run into all these hurdles.
[35:10.720 --> 35:13.720] And they said, I never give up.
[35:13.720 --> 35:19.360] And so I, you know, they transferred it down to Los Angeles County and I said, well, we
[35:19.360 --> 35:23.120] don't want it transferred down there because they're overworked, understaffed, and we'll
[35:23.120 --> 35:25.000] never get through to them.
[35:25.000 --> 35:29.040] But I did manage to get through to them today and found out, well, if the judge orders it
[35:29.040 --> 35:32.760] transferred, then it has to go that way.
[35:32.760 --> 35:37.380] But then one of them said, well, we only do the supervision of the probation.
[35:37.380 --> 35:41.660] We don't do the financials because we have to send it back to your county for distribution.
[35:41.660 --> 35:48.460] So my next thing after talking to the supervisor is I may be writing to the judge asking her
[35:48.460 --> 35:54.660] to keep jurisdiction over the financial part because we at least get to talk to the probation
[35:54.660 --> 35:55.660] department here.
[35:55.660 --> 35:56.660] They actually answer the phone.
[35:56.660 --> 36:01.460] But two checks, I know I have a long way to go because my judgment in the criminal was
[36:01.460 --> 36:06.940] 150,500, but hey, it's better than a kick in the teeth.
[36:06.940 --> 36:10.900] So it's a little bit of a win.
[36:10.900 --> 36:14.260] Wonderful.
[36:14.260 --> 36:16.780] Now you're getting rich.
[36:16.780 --> 36:22.940] Yeah, you got $48 twice.
[36:22.940 --> 36:28.700] Yeah, that's a miracle.
[36:28.700 --> 36:29.700] That is wonderful.
[36:29.900 --> 36:38.060] For those of you who haven't followed this all the way, Tina have really worked on this.
[36:38.060 --> 36:45.060] And she kind of is a mascot we need to get for Tina, an English bulldog.
[36:45.060 --> 36:46.060] Yes.
[36:46.060 --> 36:53.580] I think there's another little bit about it.
[36:53.580 --> 37:00.780] One of her attorneys in the adversary proceeding was a guy named David Lally who lived in New
[37:00.780 --> 37:06.300] York but had practiced in California and kept his license, and he represented them.
[37:06.300 --> 37:12.020] And it turns out that, you know, long story, but he'd represented someone that had gone
[37:12.020 --> 37:14.300] against me in a bankruptcy.
[37:14.300 --> 37:20.420] And once I rebutted their argument, he never contacted me again.
[37:20.660 --> 37:28.580] But he told the other debtor, Kevin, the creditor, who called him up and he said, is that other
[37:28.580 --> 37:30.580] — what did he use the word?
[37:30.580 --> 37:31.580] Like a bulldog.
[37:31.580 --> 37:35.380] It was actually, I think that was his, is she still with you?
[37:35.380 --> 37:38.260] And he said, oh yeah, she is instrumental in this.
[37:38.260 --> 37:40.540] He said, well, I have to give a credit.
[37:40.540 --> 37:41.540] She never gave up.
[37:41.540 --> 37:42.540] None of you did.
[37:42.540 --> 37:44.540] And he said, nobody does this.
[37:44.540 --> 37:47.540] He said, you know, they deserve what they're getting.
[37:47.660 --> 37:50.660] And he said, you know, they lied to me.
[37:50.660 --> 37:53.660] He said, they're just consummate liars, these two.
[37:53.660 --> 37:58.660] And he, you know, he gave him a little bit of background, but he said, I really admire
[37:58.660 --> 38:01.660] you all for sticking to it like you did.
[38:01.660 --> 38:04.660] All right.
[38:04.660 --> 38:10.860] And he quit and said, he actually put in the papers, I'm tired of babysitting.
[38:10.860 --> 38:12.340] They don't follow my orders.
[38:12.340 --> 38:13.940] They don't follow my suggestions.
[38:14.340 --> 38:16.340] They refused to give discovery.
[38:16.340 --> 38:18.340] And I want out of this case.
[38:25.340 --> 38:30.340] So if she doesn't cover the restitution, does she go back to jail?
[38:32.340 --> 38:39.900] Well, she's only served, had to serve one day in jail, but she — out of the 25th,
[38:40.860 --> 38:47.860] she will be in violation of her probation in terms of making payments to the restitution.
[38:47.860 --> 38:52.860] And that's what I'm going to put in my letter to the court if the supervisor thinks
[38:52.860 --> 38:53.860] it's right to do that.
[38:53.860 --> 38:54.860] She told me to hold off.
[38:54.860 --> 38:55.860] She suggested it.
[38:55.860 --> 39:00.860] And then once I found this information out from L.A., she said, hold off until I talk
[39:00.860 --> 39:01.860] to them.
[39:01.860 --> 39:03.860] But I'll be asking that.
[39:03.860 --> 39:07.860] I'll be saying, this person has no intention of paying us.
[39:08.820 --> 39:11.820] She's clearly lying about her income and expenses.
[39:11.820 --> 39:13.820] And I'll give you proof of that.
[39:13.820 --> 39:17.820] And I'm going to ask her if she'll put her in jail.
[39:17.820 --> 39:22.820] But yes, they can jail her if she's in violation.
[39:22.820 --> 39:23.820] Will they?
[39:23.820 --> 39:24.820] I'm not sure.
[39:27.820 --> 39:32.820] Well, at least she has the threat of jail hanging over her.
[39:33.780 --> 39:44.780] Also, since you are in California, you're near Los Angeles, aren't you, San Luis Obispo?
[39:44.780 --> 39:47.780] Yeah, I'm three hours away from L.A.
[39:49.780 --> 39:56.780] What is the temperament of Californians right now?
[39:57.740 --> 40:06.740] They are sick to death of the mayor of L.A. and Governor Newscombe.
[40:06.740 --> 40:08.740] Oh, really?
[40:08.740 --> 40:10.740] Yeah, there's been quite a turn.
[40:10.740 --> 40:13.740] They're asking for his resignation.
[40:13.740 --> 40:15.740] It's been a total mismanagement.
[40:15.740 --> 40:21.740] One of the main reservoirs near the Pasadena fire was empty and has been empty for months
[40:21.740 --> 40:23.740] and not repaired.
[40:24.700 --> 40:30.700] The mayor of L.A., right as these warnings were coming in about the winds, flew off to
[40:30.700 --> 40:33.700] Ghana to some inauguration.
[40:33.700 --> 40:36.700] So she abandoned her people.
[40:36.700 --> 40:38.700] It's not looking good for them.
[40:38.700 --> 40:40.700] People are sick.
[40:41.700 --> 40:42.700] Good.
[40:42.700 --> 40:46.700] That's what I wanted to hear because, you know, we're outside California, so we're
[40:46.700 --> 40:50.700] not hearing what's going on actually inside.
[40:51.660 --> 40:54.660] I'm hoping that the next interim election, California turns red.
[40:54.660 --> 40:55.660] Hang on.
[40:55.660 --> 40:57.660] We'll be right back.
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[43:13.500 --> 43:16.500] Whoa whoa whoa whoa
[43:19.500 --> 43:22.500] Whoa whoa whoa whoa
[43:23.500 --> 43:28.500] Always I must be careful what I'm wishing for
[43:29.500 --> 43:34.500] When I'm hungry I like to know just what I'm fishing for
[43:34.500 --> 43:39.500] I ain't asking for much I ain't trying to be no glutton
[43:40.460 --> 43:45.460] I'm just here making my living pushing buttons
[43:45.460 --> 43:51.460] I give my message out to anyone in shot and distance
[43:51.460 --> 43:57.460] I vote for bravery and against slavery showing resistance
[43:57.460 --> 44:02.460] First I'm crawling, then I'm walking, then I start strutting
[44:02.460 --> 44:08.460] Okay, we are back, Randy Kelvin, Fountain Rule of Law Radio, we're talking to Tina in California
[44:09.420 --> 44:11.420] And I was talking to Brad on the break
[44:11.420 --> 44:18.420] They have, I saw one deal where they had these super scooper firefighting planes
[44:18.420 --> 44:21.420] The one using it, it was in a museum
[44:21.420 --> 44:26.420] In a lake, but they had it as a museum piece
[44:26.420 --> 44:31.420] Canada brought some down and was helping with the fire
[44:31.420 --> 44:37.420] The airplanes that California had weren't using, Canada come down and brought them
[44:38.380 --> 44:43.380] And I watched these guys fighting that fire with big jets
[44:43.380 --> 44:46.380] Man, that is insane
[44:50.380 --> 44:53.380] Well I'm a pilot and if you've never flown an airplane
[44:53.380 --> 44:57.380] They don't maneuver like cars do
[44:57.380 --> 45:00.380] In a car you turn the wheel, the car turns
[45:00.380 --> 45:03.380] Not so in an airplane
[45:04.340 --> 45:07.340] In an airplane you put pressure on the controls
[45:07.340 --> 45:11.340] And those pressure, the controls put pressure on the air
[45:11.340 --> 45:14.340] And then the aircraft responds
[45:14.340 --> 45:17.340] There's a delay
[45:17.340 --> 45:20.340] In small airplanes like I flew, there wasn't much delay
[45:20.340 --> 45:22.340] But there was a noticeable delay
[45:22.340 --> 45:25.340] As the airplane gets bigger
[45:25.340 --> 45:28.340] There's much much more delay
[45:28.340 --> 45:31.340] And I was watching, they're filming this
[45:32.300 --> 45:35.300] Airplane dropping down, just barely cleared a ridge
[45:35.300 --> 45:38.300] And dumped the water and then had to climb out
[45:38.300 --> 45:41.300] To keep from hitting one on the other side
[45:41.300 --> 45:44.300] And I'm looking at this thinking
[45:44.300 --> 45:47.300] When he dove in over the first edge
[45:47.300 --> 45:50.300] He had to already be pulling back on the stick
[45:50.300 --> 45:53.300] Because the delay in his controls
[45:53.300 --> 45:56.300] If he's not already pulling back on the stick
[45:56.300 --> 45:59.300] He's going to hit that other side
[46:00.260 --> 46:03.260] Those were gutsy guys
[46:03.260 --> 46:06.260] And you're flying close to the ground
[46:06.260 --> 46:09.260] That big airplane with air currents moving around
[46:09.260 --> 46:12.260] These guys are risking their lives
[46:12.260 --> 46:15.260] And their airplanes
[46:15.260 --> 46:18.260] Remember too that they're facing
[46:18.260 --> 46:21.260] 60 to 80 mile an hour wind gusts
[46:21.260 --> 46:24.260] The winds were that bad
[46:24.260 --> 46:27.260] They're the highest winds that they've seen
[46:28.220 --> 46:31.220] And Oregon sent down some fire engines
[46:31.220 --> 46:34.220] But they were stopped in Sacramento
[46:34.220 --> 46:37.220] Because they didn't have some emissions
[46:37.220 --> 46:40.220] California emissions
[46:40.220 --> 46:43.220] I'm watching these guys on these YouTube channels
[46:43.220 --> 46:46.220] And they keep saying
[46:46.220 --> 46:49.220] You can't make this stuff up
[46:49.220 --> 46:52.220] Oregon sends fire trucks down
[46:52.220 --> 46:55.220] And the whole city's burning
[46:56.180 --> 46:59.180] And they want to do smog tests on them
[46:59.180 --> 47:02.180] What?
[47:02.180 --> 47:05.180] Yeah, they delayed them
[47:05.180 --> 47:08.180] Because it's only registered and tested
[47:08.180 --> 47:11.180] For the levels that are okay in Oregon
[47:11.180 --> 47:14.180] Not in California, so they're more strict
[47:14.180 --> 47:17.180] And they can't let the trucks in
[47:17.180 --> 47:20.180] Unbelievable
[47:20.180 --> 47:23.180] How insane can he get
[47:24.140 --> 47:27.140] You see what happened
[47:27.140 --> 47:30.140] The fire department had apparently requested
[47:30.140 --> 47:33.140] A budget to increase personnel
[47:33.140 --> 47:36.140] And to repair fire trucks and do everything
[47:36.140 --> 47:39.140] Well, the mayor instead reduced their budget
[47:39.140 --> 47:42.140] And put it towards ostensibly DEI hires
[47:42.140 --> 47:45.140] And Gavin Newsom
[47:45.140 --> 47:48.140] And his demonic rat crew
[47:48.140 --> 47:51.140] They approved millions of dollars
[47:51.140 --> 47:54.140] To Trump-proof California
[47:54.140 --> 47:57.140] And some of the celebrities are coming out
[47:57.140 --> 48:00.140] Saying Trump-proof, why don't you fire-proof it
[48:00.140 --> 48:03.140] Spend the money to fire-proof, not Trump-proof it
[48:03.140 --> 48:06.140] Because when you've got people in the Pacific
[48:06.140 --> 48:09.140] Palisades and Malibu are celebrity enclaves
[48:09.140 --> 48:12.140] And many, many, many of these
[48:12.140 --> 48:15.140] So-called celebrities have lost
[48:15.140 --> 48:18.140] Multi-million dollar homes, raised to ashes
[48:18.140 --> 48:21.140] And they're actually starting to turn around a little
[48:21.140 --> 48:24.140] Now you've still got some hardcore Democrats
[48:24.140 --> 48:27.140] Who say, no, he's doing the best he can
[48:27.140 --> 48:30.140] And this was nature that did this
[48:30.140 --> 48:33.140] But it's not, this was this poor management
[48:33.140 --> 48:36.140] If we had a fire like that in Dallas
[48:36.140 --> 48:39.140] Yeah, we'd say nature did that
[48:39.140 --> 48:42.140] Because that doesn't happen in Dallas
[48:42.140 --> 48:45.140] That happens in California
[48:46.140 --> 48:49.140] Every year
[48:49.140 --> 48:52.140] Every year
[48:52.140 --> 48:55.140] I mean, it's not a question of whether you're going to have these fires
[48:55.140 --> 48:58.140] You are going to have these fires
[48:58.140 --> 49:01.140] I don't get it
[49:01.140 --> 49:04.140] But I think I'm relatively certain
[49:04.140 --> 49:07.140] At the next interim election
[49:07.140 --> 49:10.140] California will be about as red as it can get
[49:10.140 --> 49:13.140] Well, it's already
[49:13.140 --> 49:16.140] Parts of California have turned really red
[49:16.140 --> 49:19.140] And I think after this more parts will
[49:19.140 --> 49:22.140] And it turns out that apparently Trump years ago
[49:22.140 --> 49:25.140] Told Newsom that he needed to get
[49:25.140 --> 49:28.140] Control of the brush and start
[49:28.140 --> 49:31.140] Cleaning that
[49:31.140 --> 49:34.140] No, Tina, it wasn't years ago, it was two months ago
[49:34.140 --> 49:37.140] No, he actually did it years ago
[49:37.140 --> 49:40.140] Two months ago he warned about this
[49:41.140 --> 49:44.140] And then two months later, boom, it happens
[49:44.140 --> 49:47.140] Yeah, and it was incredible
[49:47.140 --> 49:50.140] I know personally of four people
[49:50.140 --> 49:53.140] That lost their homes
[49:53.140 --> 49:56.140] And at least six or eight that I know personally
[49:56.140 --> 49:59.140] Were evacuated and what this has done
[49:59.140 --> 50:02.140] We already have a bad homeless problem
[50:02.140 --> 50:05.140] Where are these people going to go?
[50:05.140 --> 50:08.140] There is not enough housing to house all these people
[50:09.140 --> 50:12.140] So
[50:12.140 --> 50:15.140] That's a big problem
[50:15.140 --> 50:18.140] While this is a horrible thing that happened
[50:18.140 --> 50:21.140] It may actually turn California
[50:21.140 --> 50:24.140] Back into a sane state
[50:24.140 --> 50:27.140] If that's possible
[50:27.140 --> 50:30.140] But you're looking at people who've lost their businesses
[50:30.140 --> 50:33.140] People who, the housekeepers, grand keepers
[50:33.140 --> 50:36.140] All those people who work for these celebrities
[50:36.140 --> 50:39.140] And for the restaurants that have been shut down
[50:39.140 --> 50:42.140] They've now lost their jobs and there's no one to
[50:42.140 --> 50:45.140] They can't get hired anywhere because
[50:45.140 --> 50:48.140] Everybody's going to try to be rebuilding
[50:48.140 --> 50:51.140] It's really, really sad
[50:51.140 --> 50:54.140] It's just a disaster, an absolute unmitigated disaster
[50:57.140 --> 51:00.140] It's horrible this happened
[51:00.140 --> 51:03.140] But I hope they learn from it
[51:03.140 --> 51:06.140] Often
[51:06.140 --> 51:09.140] Hoping that idiots learn from their experiences
[51:09.140 --> 51:12.140] Often a fool's gamble
[51:12.140 --> 51:15.140] Okay, we are proud of you, Tina
[51:15.140 --> 51:18.140] Thank you
[51:18.140 --> 51:21.140] I think you'll be getting a lot more people coming to Texas now
[51:21.140 --> 51:24.140] We're getting too many now
[51:24.140 --> 51:27.140] I'm in a small town
[51:27.140 --> 51:30.140] And I pulled up to the main road
[51:30.140 --> 51:33.140] I pulled out and this guy charged up
[51:33.140 --> 51:36.140] To block me, shove me off on the shoulder
[51:36.140 --> 51:39.140] And there's no other cars on the road
[51:39.140 --> 51:42.140] And go back to California
[51:42.140 --> 51:45.140] We don't generally drive that way here in Texas
[51:48.140 --> 51:51.140] It's getting to where I can't use my blinker
[51:51.140 --> 51:54.140] If I turn on my blinker to change lanes
[51:54.140 --> 51:57.140] We have so many people from California
[51:57.140 --> 52:00.140] And New York and Chicago
[52:00.140 --> 52:03.140] They'll run up and block you
[52:03.140 --> 52:06.140] Just last week I was
[52:06.140 --> 52:09.140] In traffic and I put on my blinker
[52:09.140 --> 52:12.140] This guy's way back there and he stomped on the gas
[52:12.140 --> 52:15.140] I turned in front of him and I was about 30 degrees
[52:15.140 --> 52:18.140] And I stopped in the highway
[52:18.140 --> 52:21.140] Looked over my shoulder at him
[52:21.140 --> 52:24.140] He's sitting there stopped in the roadway
[52:24.140 --> 52:27.140] He looked like he thought I was going to get out
[52:27.140 --> 52:30.140] And rip him out of his window
[52:33.140 --> 52:36.140] We were proposing to put a sign
[52:36.140 --> 52:39.140] At the New Mexico border
[52:39.140 --> 52:42.140] Welcoming people from California
[52:42.140 --> 52:45.140] But asking them not to stop
[52:45.140 --> 52:48.140] Until they passed Orange
[52:49.140 --> 52:52.140] Orange is about 10 miles from
[52:52.140 --> 52:55.140] Louisiana
[52:55.140 --> 52:58.140] I don't blame you
[52:58.140 --> 53:01.140] You don't mind people coming in
[53:01.140 --> 53:04.140] But leave that California attitude at home
[53:04.140 --> 53:07.140] When I first came down here
[53:07.140 --> 53:10.140] If you broke down on the side of the highway
[53:10.140 --> 53:13.140] In five minutes somebody would have pulled over
[53:13.140 --> 53:16.140] I never broke down
[53:16.140 --> 53:19.140] I have a number more people stopping to help me
[53:19.140 --> 53:22.140] Than I could use and they often got in the way
[53:22.140 --> 53:25.140] Because I had to explain to them
[53:25.140 --> 53:28.140] I didn't need their help but more people than I could get to
[53:28.140 --> 53:31.140] And
[53:31.140 --> 53:34.140] A guy shoots his girlfriend
[53:34.140 --> 53:37.140] At the Valley View Mall
[53:37.140 --> 53:40.140] He chased her down the sidewalk outside the mall
[53:40.140 --> 53:43.140] And shot her in the back of the head
[53:43.140 --> 53:46.140] And somebody blew out his femoral artery
[53:46.140 --> 53:49.140] He bled out six blocks away
[53:49.140 --> 53:52.140] It's Texas
[53:52.140 --> 53:55.140] You don't mess with women in Texas
[53:55.140 --> 53:58.140] Somebody will beat you up
[53:58.140 --> 54:01.140] The police asked for two weeks for whoever did this
[54:01.140 --> 54:04.140] To come in and bring in your weapon
[54:04.140 --> 54:07.140] The Xerox salesman shows up
[54:07.140 --> 54:10.140] 44 Mag, when I heard the story
[54:10.140 --> 54:13.140] He came out of the car
[54:13.140 --> 54:16.140] But didn't account for acceleration
[54:16.140 --> 54:19.140] He hesitated and the car moved out from front of his weapon
[54:19.140 --> 54:22.140] And he blew a hole through the door
[54:22.140 --> 54:25.140] And blew out this guy's femoral artery
[54:25.140 --> 54:28.140] So they take the gun
[54:28.140 --> 54:31.140] They go back and check it and they come back and said
[54:31.140 --> 54:34.140] Yep, that's the one that killed him alright
[54:34.140 --> 54:37.140] Gave it back to him and sent him home
[54:37.140 --> 54:40.140] You have the right to protect your property
[54:40.140 --> 54:43.140] And your person, you have the right to use force
[54:43.140 --> 54:46.140] You have the right to use deadly force
[54:46.140 --> 54:49.140] You also have the right
[54:49.140 --> 54:52.140] To protect the property and the person of another
[54:52.140 --> 54:55.140] As if it were your own
[54:55.140 --> 54:58.140] And we have
[54:58.140 --> 55:01.140] Good Samaritan law
[55:01.140 --> 55:04.140] If I try to help you and do everything wrong
[55:04.140 --> 55:07.140] You absolutely cannot be sued
[55:07.140 --> 55:10.140] Period
[55:10.140 --> 55:13.140] So you're safe to try to help people
[55:13.140 --> 55:16.140] In Texas
[55:16.140 --> 55:19.140] Unlike it was in Chicago, hang on Randy Kelton
[55:19.140 --> 55:22.140] A little bit earlier
[55:22.140 --> 55:25.140] I came back from Vietnam
[55:25.140 --> 55:28.140] I was back in country two days
[55:28.140 --> 55:31.140] Downtown Chicago, state Madison
[55:31.140 --> 55:34.140] And I looked around and thinking
[55:34.140 --> 55:37.140] This is the scariest place on earth
[55:37.140 --> 55:40.140] I could fall down here and die
[55:40.140 --> 55:43.140] And these people step over me
[55:43.140 --> 55:46.140] The worst part is it would break their hearts
[55:46.140 --> 55:49.140] They'd be afraid to try to help me
[55:49.140 --> 55:52.140] That's why I came to Texas
[55:52.140 --> 55:55.140] We'll be right back
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[56:59.140 --> 57:02.140] The Bill of Rights contains
[57:02.140 --> 57:05.140] The first ten amendments of our Constitution
[57:05.140 --> 57:08.140] They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect
[57:08.140 --> 57:11.140] Our liberty depends on it
[57:11.140 --> 57:14.140] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way
[57:14.140 --> 57:17.140] To remember one of your constitutional rights
[57:17.140 --> 57:20.140] Privacy is under attack
[57:20.140 --> 57:23.140] When you give up data about yourself you'll never get it back again
[57:23.140 --> 57:26.140] And once your privacy is gone you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too
[57:26.140 --> 57:29.140] So protect your rights, say no to surveillance
[57:29.140 --> 57:32.140] And keep your information to yourself
[57:32.140 --> 57:35.140] Privacy, it's worth hanging on to
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[57:44.140 --> 57:47.140] Imagine your mom and dad are getting ready for bed
[57:47.140 --> 57:50.140] They pull back the covers and find a third party there
[57:50.140 --> 57:53.140] He announces, I'm with the military and I'm sleeping here tonight
[57:53.140 --> 57:56.140] That shocking image of a third party in my parent's bed
[57:56.140 --> 57:59.140] Reminds me what the Third Amendment was designed to prevent
[57:59.140 --> 58:02.140] It protects us from being forced to share our homes with soldiers
[58:02.140 --> 58:05.140] A common demand in the days of our founding fathers
[58:05.140 --> 58:08.140] Third party, Third Amendment, get it?
[58:08.140 --> 58:11.140] So if you answer a knock at your door and guys in fatigues demand lodging
[58:11.140 --> 58:14.140] Tell them to dust off their copy of the Bill of Rights
[58:14.140 --> 58:17.140] And re-read the Third Amendment
[58:17.140 --> 58:20.140] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, more news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com
[58:23.140 --> 58:26.140] The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution
[58:26.140 --> 58:29.140] They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect
[58:29.140 --> 58:32.140] Our liberty depends on it
[58:32.140 --> 58:35.140] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way
[58:35.140 --> 58:38.140] To remember one of your constitutional rights
[58:38.140 --> 58:41.140] Privacy is under attack
[58:41.140 --> 58:44.140] When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again
[58:44.140 --> 58:47.140] And once your privacy is gone, you'll never get it back again
[58:47.140 --> 58:50.140] And once your privacy is gone, you'll never get it back again
[58:50.140 --> 58:53.140] And once your privacy is gone, you'll never get it back again
[58:53.140 --> 58:56.140] And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too
[58:56.140 --> 58:59.140] So protect your rights, say no to surveillance
[58:59.140 --> 59:02.140] And keep your information to yourself
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[59:14.140 --> 59:17.140] Imagine four eyes staring at you through binoculars
[59:17.140 --> 59:20.140] A magnifying glass or a pair of x-ray goggles
[59:20.140 --> 59:23.140] That imagery reminds me that the Fourth Amendment guarantees Americans
[59:23.140 --> 59:26.140] Freedom from unreasonable search and seizure
[59:26.140 --> 59:29.140] Fourth Amendment? Four eyes staring at you? Get it?
[59:29.140 --> 59:32.140] Unfortunately, the government is trampling our Fourth Amendment rights
[59:32.140 --> 59:35.140] In the name of security
[59:35.140 --> 59:38.140] Case in point, TSA airport scanners that peer under your clothing
[59:38.140 --> 59:41.140] When government employees demand a peep at your privates
[59:41.140 --> 59:44.140] Without probable cause, I say it's time to sound the constitutional alarm bells
[59:45.140 --> 59:48.140] Join me in asking our representatives to dust off the Bill of Rights
[59:48.140 --> 59:51.140] And use their googly eyes to take a gander at the Fourth
[59:51.140 --> 59:54.140] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht
[59:54.140 --> 59:57.140] More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com
[01:00:14.140 --> 01:00:17.140] Okay, we are back
[01:00:17.140 --> 01:00:20.140] Randy Kelton, Barrett Fountain, VoodooVlog Radio
[01:00:20.140 --> 01:00:23.140] And we're talking to Tina
[01:00:23.140 --> 01:00:26.140] Tina, are we about done with you?
[01:00:26.140 --> 01:00:29.140] Yeah, we're about done with you
[01:00:29.140 --> 01:00:32.140] Okay, we're about done with you
[01:00:32.140 --> 01:00:35.140] Okay, we're about done with you
[01:00:35.140 --> 01:00:38.140] Okay, we're about done with you
[01:00:38.140 --> 01:00:41.140] Okay, we're about done with you
[01:00:41.140 --> 01:00:44.140] We're talking to Tina
[01:00:44.140 --> 01:00:47.140] Tina, are we about done with you?
[01:00:47.140 --> 01:00:50.140] Yes, I just wanted to mention one thing
[01:00:50.140 --> 01:00:53.140] I'm in the midst of writing a motion to the bankruptcy court
[01:00:53.140 --> 01:00:56.140] To ask them if they will bar these debtors
[01:00:56.140 --> 01:00:59.140] From ever filing another bankruptcy for at least 10 years
[01:00:59.140 --> 01:01:02.140] I don't know if it'll go through
[01:01:02.140 --> 01:01:05.140] But I'm just saying they've abused the bankruptcy system
[01:01:05.140 --> 01:01:08.140] And I'm going to write it anyway and see what happens
[01:01:08.140 --> 01:01:11.140] Good
[01:01:11.140 --> 01:01:14.140] And I don't ever want you after me
[01:01:14.140 --> 01:01:17.140] Well, same goes here
[01:01:17.140 --> 01:01:20.140] I don't want you after me, Albrecht
[01:01:20.140 --> 01:01:23.140] Tenacious
[01:01:23.140 --> 01:01:26.140] Okay, thank you, tenacious Tina
[01:01:26.140 --> 01:01:29.140] Okay, now we're going to go to Alex in California
[01:01:29.140 --> 01:01:32.140] Hello, Alex
[01:01:32.140 --> 01:01:35.140] What do you have for us today?
[01:01:35.140 --> 01:01:38.140] Okay, so I was thinking
[01:01:38.140 --> 01:01:41.140] Okay, so I was thinking
[01:01:41.140 --> 01:01:44.140] To avoid or to better manage
[01:01:44.140 --> 01:01:47.140] To avoid or to better manage
[01:01:47.140 --> 01:01:50.140] With my action against the judges
[01:01:50.140 --> 01:01:53.140] With my action against the judges
[01:01:53.140 --> 01:01:56.140] To overcome all these unlawful immunity doctrines
[01:01:56.140 --> 01:01:59.140] To overcome all these unlawful immunity doctrines
[01:01:59.140 --> 01:02:02.140] And whatever else they have
[01:02:02.140 --> 01:02:05.140] Because I've been looking into
[01:02:05.140 --> 01:02:08.140] Common law, common law claims versus
[01:02:08.140 --> 01:02:11.140] Civil law
[01:02:11.140 --> 01:02:14.140] And I came across
[01:02:14.140 --> 01:02:17.140] And I've only like gathered a little bit about it
[01:02:17.140 --> 01:02:20.140] And I just wanted to present that
[01:02:20.140 --> 01:02:23.140] To you guys and see if you have any input
[01:02:23.140 --> 01:02:26.140] And basically my intent is
[01:02:26.140 --> 01:02:29.140] And basically my intent is
[01:02:29.140 --> 01:02:32.140] If I make the 42, 1983
[01:02:32.140 --> 01:02:35.140] A cause of action
[01:02:35.140 --> 01:02:38.140] Then they will have all their case law
[01:02:38.140 --> 01:02:41.140] That they will try to apply
[01:02:41.140 --> 01:02:44.140] That will bulldoze me just like
[01:02:44.140 --> 01:02:47.140] They do with you guys and other people
[01:02:47.140 --> 01:02:50.140] And if I
[01:02:50.140 --> 01:02:53.140] If I prevent them
[01:02:53.140 --> 01:02:56.140] From application of it
[01:02:56.140 --> 01:02:59.140] Then they actually would have to assess my claims
[01:02:59.140 --> 01:03:02.140] Hopefully through the eyes of
[01:03:02.140 --> 01:03:05.140] The constitution
[01:03:05.140 --> 01:03:08.140] So for example, there is a common law
[01:03:08.140 --> 01:03:11.140] Trespass on the case claim
[01:03:11.140 --> 01:03:14.140] Which would be an injury without violence
[01:03:14.140 --> 01:03:17.140] So that common law trespass on the case
[01:03:17.140 --> 01:03:20.140] And if I would
[01:03:20.140 --> 01:03:23.140] Where do you find this common law
[01:03:23.140 --> 01:03:26.140] You're breaking up
[01:03:33.140 --> 01:03:36.140] You're breaking up
[01:03:42.140 --> 01:03:45.140] Alex, we're not able to hear you very well
[01:03:45.140 --> 01:03:48.140] We're only hearing one syllable out of every two words
[01:03:48.140 --> 01:03:51.140] If you can make some adjustments
[01:03:51.140 --> 01:03:54.140] On your network there
[01:03:54.140 --> 01:03:57.140] I know that sounds broad, but
[01:03:57.140 --> 01:04:00.140] It seems like a lot of packet loss
[01:04:00.140 --> 01:04:03.140] Do you have a lot of devices streaming video near you
[01:04:03.140 --> 01:04:06.140] Or something where you can
[01:04:06.140 --> 01:04:09.140] Either shut those down or get on your own link
[01:04:09.140 --> 01:04:12.140] Because we're not able to hear you
[01:04:12.140 --> 01:04:15.140] I have a suggestion
[01:04:15.140 --> 01:04:18.140] Hold on
[01:04:18.140 --> 01:04:21.140] Stand on your head and just walk in like a chicken
[01:04:21.140 --> 01:04:24.140] It might not work, but it'd be entertaining
[01:04:24.140 --> 01:04:27.140] Sorry, what was that?
[01:04:27.140 --> 01:04:30.140] What was that?
[01:04:30.140 --> 01:04:33.140] That's better, that's better
[01:04:33.140 --> 01:04:36.140] That's better, thank you
[01:04:36.140 --> 01:04:39.140] See, just stand on your head and just walk in like a chicken's working
[01:04:39.140 --> 01:04:42.140] Okay, is it still better
[01:04:42.140 --> 01:04:45.140] Because then I'll stay here
[01:04:45.140 --> 01:04:48.140] Okay
[01:04:48.140 --> 01:04:51.140] So should I
[01:04:51.140 --> 01:04:54.140] Repeat everything or
[01:04:54.140 --> 01:04:57.140] Yes, whatever you were saying
[01:04:57.140 --> 01:05:00.140] We couldn't make sense of it
[01:05:00.140 --> 01:05:03.140] We were asking where this common law is at
[01:05:03.140 --> 01:05:06.140] No, I wasn't
[01:05:06.140 --> 01:05:09.140] Okay, so basically
[01:05:09.140 --> 01:05:12.140] I want to present you guys with current knowledge
[01:05:12.140 --> 01:05:15.140] And see if you happen to have any more inputs
[01:05:15.140 --> 01:05:18.140] And what I'm trying to do is
[01:05:18.140 --> 01:05:21.140] To prevent them
[01:05:21.140 --> 01:05:24.140] Because I filed in 1983 against judges
[01:05:24.140 --> 01:05:27.140] So they obviously come back with judicial immunity
[01:05:27.140 --> 01:05:30.140] And there's so much case law on this
[01:05:30.140 --> 01:05:33.140] On this unlawful doctrine
[01:05:33.140 --> 01:05:36.140] So I'm trying to prevent them to be able
[01:05:36.140 --> 01:05:39.140] To even use all this
[01:05:39.140 --> 01:05:42.140] From what I see
[01:05:42.140 --> 01:05:45.140] From what you guys tried
[01:05:45.140 --> 01:05:48.140] And what other people tried
[01:05:48.140 --> 01:05:51.140] They just bulldozed us with their stupid doctrines
[01:05:51.140 --> 01:05:54.140] And we
[01:05:54.140 --> 01:05:57.140] To get them to be accountable
[01:05:57.140 --> 01:06:00.140] And to answer to their actions
[01:06:00.140 --> 01:06:03.140] So I'm trying to use a strategy
[01:06:03.140 --> 01:06:06.140] So I was looking into the differences between
[01:06:06.140 --> 01:06:09.140] Okay
[01:06:09.140 --> 01:06:12.140] Where are you finding
[01:06:12.140 --> 01:06:15.140] Information on a common law action
[01:06:21.140 --> 01:06:24.140] Hold on
[01:06:27.140 --> 01:06:30.140] Problem is
[01:06:30.140 --> 01:06:33.140] I've been doing this for over 30 years
[01:06:33.140 --> 01:06:36.140] I have never ever
[01:06:36.140 --> 01:06:39.140] Been able to find common law
[01:06:39.140 --> 01:06:42.140] So
[01:06:42.140 --> 01:06:45.140] Can you find it? I haven't
[01:06:45.140 --> 01:06:48.140] Okay
[01:06:48.140 --> 01:06:51.140] So basically I started with
[01:06:56.140 --> 01:06:59.140] You're breaking up again
[01:06:59.140 --> 01:07:02.140] Okay let me
[01:07:02.140 --> 01:07:05.140] Let me put in the headset
[01:07:13.140 --> 01:07:16.140] Is this any different?
[01:07:16.140 --> 01:07:19.140] It's a little more muffled
[01:07:19.140 --> 01:07:22.140] The headset's not likely to help you with losing packets
[01:07:22.140 --> 01:07:25.140] But go ahead
[01:07:25.140 --> 01:07:28.140] Okay
[01:07:28.140 --> 01:07:31.140] So
[01:07:31.140 --> 01:07:34.140] The difference between the common
[01:07:34.140 --> 01:07:37.140] And the civil law is actually
[01:07:37.140 --> 01:07:40.140] In the constitution in multiple places
[01:07:40.140 --> 01:07:43.140] Where they distinguish
[01:07:43.140 --> 01:07:46.140] A case in law
[01:07:46.140 --> 01:07:49.140] And in equity
[01:07:49.140 --> 01:07:52.140] So equity is that civil statutory realm
[01:07:52.140 --> 01:07:55.140] And common law is the common law
[01:07:55.140 --> 01:07:58.140] No no no common law is the common law
[01:07:58.140 --> 01:08:01.140] I get all these people telling me about the common law
[01:08:01.140 --> 01:08:04.140] I can't come into court with something
[01:08:04.140 --> 01:08:07.140] I just pulled out of the thin air
[01:08:07.140 --> 01:08:10.140] Where is common law and how does it
[01:08:10.140 --> 01:08:13.140] Get authority
[01:08:16.140 --> 01:08:19.140] I stole what I found out
[01:08:19.140 --> 01:08:22.140] So our common law comes from through the Magna Carta
[01:08:22.140 --> 01:08:25.140] Basically
[01:08:25.140 --> 01:08:28.140] Let's talk about the Magna Carta
[01:08:28.140 --> 01:08:31.140] The Magna Carta
[01:08:31.140 --> 01:08:34.140] 1215 AD
[01:08:34.140 --> 01:08:37.140] We had a number of dukes
[01:08:37.140 --> 01:08:40.140] Who were essentially sovereign over the lands
[01:08:40.140 --> 01:08:43.140] They could protect
[01:08:43.140 --> 01:08:46.140] And they had a set of law
[01:08:46.140 --> 01:08:49.140] That was the general law
[01:08:49.140 --> 01:08:52.140] The general customs
[01:08:52.140 --> 01:08:55.140] Methods that everyone
[01:08:55.140 --> 01:08:58.140] Tended to agree to
[01:08:58.140 --> 01:09:01.140] That was the common law
[01:09:01.140 --> 01:09:04.140] It wasn't a written law
[01:09:04.140 --> 01:09:07.140] It was what everyone did
[01:09:07.140 --> 01:09:10.140] It started out with a good example
[01:09:10.140 --> 01:09:13.140] Of the vikings
[01:09:13.140 --> 01:09:16.140] In one of these series on vikings
[01:09:16.140 --> 01:09:19.140] He attacks this place
[01:09:19.140 --> 01:09:22.140] And the other clansman's brother
[01:09:22.140 --> 01:09:25.140] Ahead of it tried to rape
[01:09:25.140 --> 01:09:28.140] The main guy's wife and she killed him
[01:09:28.140 --> 01:09:31.140] He's concerned for her
[01:09:31.140 --> 01:09:34.140] So he claims he killed him
[01:09:34.140 --> 01:09:37.140] And they bring him before the entire clan
[01:09:37.140 --> 01:09:40.140] Both sides make their case
[01:09:40.140 --> 01:09:43.140] And the clan decides
[01:09:43.140 --> 01:09:46.140] What will be done based on
[01:09:46.140 --> 01:09:49.140] Their beliefs and their traditions
[01:09:49.140 --> 01:09:52.140] That's the common law
[01:09:52.140 --> 01:09:55.140] And then we got the Magna Carta
[01:09:55.140 --> 01:09:58.140] The Magna Carta referenced
[01:09:58.140 --> 01:10:01.140] The common law that all these dukes
[01:10:01.140 --> 01:10:04.140] Used what the people believed was right
[01:10:04.140 --> 01:10:07.140] That's what the common law was
[01:10:07.140 --> 01:10:10.140] And in the Magna Carta it says
[01:10:10.140 --> 01:10:13.140] That the magistrates
[01:10:13.140 --> 01:10:16.140] Not the king, the aristocracy
[01:10:16.140 --> 01:10:19.140] Passes an edict
[01:10:19.140 --> 01:10:22.140] And it is offensive to the common law
[01:10:22.140 --> 01:10:25.140] The magistrates may not enforce it
[01:10:25.140 --> 01:10:28.140] That's where I think they're getting
[01:10:28.140 --> 01:10:31.140] This claim of common law
[01:10:31.140 --> 01:10:34.140] The common law was laid down in the Magna Carta
[01:10:34.140 --> 01:10:37.140] And the charter of the forest
[01:10:37.140 --> 01:10:40.140] The charter of the forest really laid down
[01:10:40.140 --> 01:10:43.140] But when we came to the US
[01:10:43.140 --> 01:10:46.140] We adopted a constitution
[01:10:46.140 --> 01:10:49.140] And the constitution
[01:10:49.140 --> 01:10:52.140] Created a legislature for us
[01:10:52.140 --> 01:10:55.140] It was our legislature empowered by us
[01:10:55.140 --> 01:10:58.140] And we had our legislature
[01:10:58.140 --> 01:11:01.140] Write laws for us
[01:11:01.140 --> 01:11:04.140] And then we had our legislature
[01:11:04.140 --> 01:11:07.140] Create courts
[01:11:07.140 --> 01:11:10.140] And those courts were empowered
[01:11:10.140 --> 01:11:13.140] To enforce our law for us
[01:11:15.140 --> 01:11:18.140] Now we have somebody saying
[01:11:18.140 --> 01:11:21.140] There's this common law out there
[01:11:21.140 --> 01:11:24.140] It's not written down anywhere
[01:11:24.140 --> 01:11:27.140] It's just whatever I pull out of the
[01:11:27.140 --> 01:11:30.140] Clear blue sky and call common law
[01:11:30.140 --> 01:11:33.140] I expect you to treat that as if
[01:11:33.140 --> 01:11:36.140] It is law
[01:11:36.140 --> 01:11:39.140] I'm not buying that story
[01:11:39.140 --> 01:11:42.140] The only thing that approaches
[01:11:42.140 --> 01:11:45.140] What is left over of the common law
[01:11:45.140 --> 01:11:48.140] Is the Magna Carta
[01:11:48.140 --> 01:11:51.140] Instead of bringing an issue
[01:11:51.140 --> 01:11:54.140] In controversy to the whole clan
[01:11:54.140 --> 01:11:57.140] They selected representative
[01:11:57.140 --> 01:12:00.140] Members of the clan
[01:12:00.140 --> 01:12:03.140] To hear the controversy
[01:12:03.140 --> 01:12:06.140] And what this group ruled
[01:12:06.140 --> 01:12:09.140] What they decided ruled
[01:12:12.140 --> 01:12:15.140] The king could not overrule
[01:12:15.140 --> 01:12:18.140] Common law jury
[01:12:18.140 --> 01:12:21.140] And as we developed
[01:12:21.140 --> 01:12:24.140] We kept the jury
[01:12:24.140 --> 01:12:27.140] Jefferson said
[01:12:27.140 --> 01:12:30.140] The primary defense against bad law
[01:12:30.140 --> 01:12:33.140] Is a jury who will not enforce law
[01:12:33.140 --> 01:12:36.140] The courts want to say
[01:12:36.140 --> 01:12:39.140] That the jury determines the fact
[01:12:39.140 --> 01:12:42.140] And the court determines the law
[01:12:42.140 --> 01:12:45.140] No, they don't
[01:12:45.140 --> 01:12:48.140] The court can notice the jury
[01:12:48.140 --> 01:12:51.140] Of what the law is
[01:12:51.140 --> 01:12:54.140] But the jury can do whatever
[01:12:54.140 --> 01:12:57.140] It chooses
[01:12:57.140 --> 01:12:59.140] That is the remnant that's left over from the common law
[01:12:59.140 --> 01:13:02.140] It's what the jury decides
[01:13:02.140 --> 01:13:05.140] Not what the judges decide
[01:13:05.140 --> 01:13:08.140] So if there's anything that is common law
[01:13:08.140 --> 01:13:11.140] It's determinations by juries
[01:13:11.140 --> 01:13:14.140] But as to common law courts
[01:13:14.140 --> 01:13:17.140] And common law juries
[01:13:17.140 --> 01:13:20.140] There is nothing in law anywhere
[01:13:20.140 --> 01:13:23.140] In American law that establishes
[01:13:23.140 --> 01:13:26.140] Common law courts and common law juries
[01:13:26.140 --> 01:13:29.140] So I can't go into a court and say
[01:13:29.140 --> 01:13:32.140] You have to follow this
[01:13:32.140 --> 01:13:35.140] Now, got guys that have common law rulings
[01:13:35.140 --> 01:13:38.140] That the courts are upholding
[01:13:38.140 --> 01:13:41.140] And I'm trying to figure out how that happens
[01:13:41.140 --> 01:13:44.140] Because nobody can tell me how to convene
[01:13:44.140 --> 01:13:47.140] Common law court
[01:13:47.140 --> 01:13:50.140] How to impanel a common law jury
[01:13:50.140 --> 01:13:53.140] And how to get a ruling from one
[01:13:53.140 --> 01:13:56.140] Been working on it 30 years, ain't found it yet
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[01:16:58.140 --> 01:17:01.140] Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Wheelabla Radio
[01:17:01.140 --> 01:17:08.140] On this Friday, the 17th day of January 2025
[01:17:08.140 --> 01:17:12.140] And we're talking to Alex in California
[01:17:12.140 --> 01:17:15.140] And Alex, I didn't mean to take that over
[01:17:15.140 --> 01:17:19.140] But when you're speaking to the common law
[01:17:19.140 --> 01:17:23.140] You're speaking to one of our pet peeves
[01:17:23.140 --> 01:17:30.140] It is my opinion that feds put out this notion of common law
[01:17:30.140 --> 01:17:36.140] To discredit the legal reform community
[01:17:36.140 --> 01:17:40.140] And they did a really good job
[01:17:40.140 --> 01:17:44.140] I have been called all over the country to get people out of jail
[01:17:44.140 --> 01:17:49.140] For following the common law
[01:17:49.140 --> 01:17:54.140] If you try to do that, you're gonna have problems
[01:17:54.140 --> 01:18:01.140] So then I'm not fully, I'm actually not fully following
[01:18:01.140 --> 01:18:09.140] Because, for example, the common law is mentioned a lot in rulings
[01:18:09.140 --> 01:18:14.140] And I agree, I'm not really sure how to convene a common law court
[01:18:14.140 --> 01:18:16.140] I don't know that either yet
[01:18:16.140 --> 01:18:18.140] And I don't know if it's any different
[01:18:18.140 --> 01:18:21.140] But that's not what I'm trying to do
[01:18:21.140 --> 01:18:25.140] But to go back to what I wanted to say
[01:18:25.140 --> 01:18:30.140] Common law is referenced in a lot of doctrines
[01:18:30.140 --> 01:18:33.140] Especially in the immunity doctrine
[01:18:33.140 --> 01:18:38.140] It is titled as common law immunity
[01:18:38.140 --> 01:18:41.140] That's literally what it says, common law immunity
[01:18:41.140 --> 01:18:50.140] And this is where the, I think this is where only the judges' absolute immunity comes from
[01:18:50.140 --> 01:18:56.140] Not the qualified immunity, but the judicial immunity does have
[01:18:56.140 --> 01:19:02.140] In their language, common law, derived from the common law
[01:19:02.140 --> 01:19:07.140] That's because the legislature never spoke to immunity
[01:19:07.140 --> 01:19:14.140] And this notion of common law immunity, they should talk to King John about that
[01:19:14.140 --> 01:19:19.140] No, the court, in their rulings, in their...
[01:19:19.140 --> 01:19:23.140] They were gonna cut King John's head off
[01:19:23.140 --> 01:19:31.140] Randy's saying that these judges who pretend to be immune ought to see what King John thought about that
[01:19:31.140 --> 01:19:33.140] They were gonna cut his head off
[01:19:33.140 --> 01:19:36.140] So much for immunity and the common law
[01:19:36.140 --> 01:19:39.140] There wasn't any, never has been any
[01:19:39.140 --> 01:19:46.140] The immunity they're calling common law is immunity created by judges
[01:19:46.140 --> 01:19:48.140] Yes, exactly
[01:19:48.140 --> 01:19:59.140] We just had a federal judge in Mississippi rule that there is no immunity known to federal law
[01:19:59.140 --> 01:20:05.140] No, he said there is no basis in law for qualified immunity
[01:20:05.140 --> 01:20:11.140] I got your email, I think I know which suit you're talking about, but that was for qualified immunity
[01:20:11.140 --> 01:20:15.140] That was not for judicial immunity
[01:20:16.140 --> 01:20:27.140] There's nothing, there's nothing in law other than judicial determinations that address judicial immunity
[01:20:27.140 --> 01:20:29.140] Nothing
[01:20:29.140 --> 01:20:31.140] Judges made it up
[01:20:31.140 --> 01:20:33.140] Yeah, yeah, exactly
[01:20:33.140 --> 01:20:39.140] So my point is, because you said that common law isn't mentioned anywhere
[01:20:39.140 --> 01:20:45.140] And I wanted to say that it is mentioned when they invent these doctrines
[01:20:45.140 --> 01:20:48.140] So they do recognize the common law
[01:20:48.140 --> 01:20:59.140] And also it was actually mentioned when you follow the 42 USC 1983
[01:20:59.140 --> 01:21:05.140] And it was worded differently, there was the notwithstanding clause in it
[01:21:05.140 --> 01:21:15.140] And then it was taken out and the notwithstanding clause had the language of custom and usage
[01:21:15.140 --> 01:21:21.140] And custom and usage is basically common law, that's what that stood for
[01:21:21.140 --> 01:21:26.140] So it is recognized, that's my point
[01:21:26.140 --> 01:21:32.140] It's not that it's not out there, it is actually there
[01:21:32.140 --> 01:21:38.140] Yeah, well there are references to it there
[01:21:38.140 --> 01:21:43.140] But I can't find it actually being there
[01:21:43.140 --> 01:21:51.140] These judges are referencing common law, but they're calling common law decisions that they make
[01:21:51.140 --> 01:21:53.140] And that's not common law
[01:21:53.140 --> 01:21:57.140] Yeah, yeah, I got it
[01:21:57.140 --> 01:22:00.140] Okay, so let me formulate my question
[01:22:00.140 --> 01:22:10.140] What would happen if I would amend my complaint, I would take out all statutes
[01:22:10.140 --> 01:22:17.140] And I would just say that this is a common law, trespass on the case claim
[01:22:17.140 --> 01:22:29.140] And that I am one of the people of the United States of America and of the state that I'm residing in
[01:22:29.140 --> 01:22:42.140] And that I claim that these two men and these two women have done something that they weren't authorized to do
[01:22:42.140 --> 01:22:50.140] And then I would describe that and then I would claim that they didn't have permission to do what they did
[01:22:50.140 --> 01:22:56.140] And that they also were bound to act differently through their oath
[01:22:56.140 --> 01:23:00.140] Okay, hold on, there's a problem with that
[01:23:00.140 --> 01:23:01.140] Okay
[01:23:01.140 --> 01:23:07.140] You're saying they did things that they were not authorized to do, who says?
[01:23:07.140 --> 01:23:12.140] I say that, I claim that
[01:23:12.140 --> 01:23:25.140] Okay, Walker V. Packer says a judge has no discretion in properly applying the law to the facts
[01:23:25.140 --> 01:23:34.140] That the judge's only duty in trial court is to determine the facts in accordance with the rules of evidence
[01:23:34.140 --> 01:23:39.140] Then apply the laws that comes to him to the facts in the case, that's his job
[01:23:39.140 --> 01:23:51.140] If you go to the court and you give him no specific facts or give him facts and you don't give him specific law that addresses those facts
[01:23:51.140 --> 01:23:55.140] He doesn't have anything he can rule on
[01:23:55.140 --> 01:24:05.140] So if you're going to come in there with the common law, you have to give him specification as to what is the common law
[01:24:05.140 --> 01:24:16.140] And how he is to address, apply the facts to that law or that law to the facts
[01:24:16.140 --> 01:24:21.140] But I can't find any common law, it's just some ethereal thing
[01:24:21.140 --> 01:24:28.140] That each person makes up to fit their own particular circumstance
[01:24:28.140 --> 01:24:35.140] So I would come in, I would present their oath for the constitution, I would present the constitution
[01:24:35.140 --> 01:24:46.140] I would present myself as one of the people that invested these men and women with those specific limited powers
[01:24:46.140 --> 01:24:51.140] And I would claim that he didn't have the power to do what he did
[01:24:51.140 --> 01:24:54.140] There's another problem with that
[01:24:54.140 --> 01:25:02.140] These people you're referring to have authorized the judge to do what he's doing
[01:25:02.140 --> 01:25:11.140] They have authorized our legislature to create law and they have authorized our judges to enforce that law
[01:25:11.140 --> 01:25:22.140] So by you coming in and claiming that you decide common law based on your personal preferences or prerogatives
[01:25:22.140 --> 01:25:29.140] You essentially nullify all of us
[01:25:29.140 --> 01:25:35.140] And so in that regard everybody would get to make up their own law to suit their own fancy
[01:25:35.140 --> 01:25:42.140] I can't see that working well and I can't see the courts enforcing that
[01:25:42.140 --> 01:26:00.140] I don't agree with, well what I don't agree with is that we the people invested the judges with the power to act contrary to the constitution
[01:26:00.140 --> 01:26:02.140] We did not do that
[01:26:02.140 --> 01:26:04.140] No we did not do that
[01:26:04.140 --> 01:26:06.140] That's correct
[01:26:06.140 --> 01:26:09.140] And that's what I would be claiming
[01:26:09.140 --> 01:26:13.140] Let's not start juxtaposing issues
[01:26:13.140 --> 01:26:24.140] We're saying that we empowered our legislature to write law and we empowered our judicial to enforce that law
[01:26:24.140 --> 01:26:26.140] Correct
[01:26:26.140 --> 01:26:28.140] We did that through our constitution
[01:26:28.140 --> 01:26:30.140] Yes
[01:26:30.140 --> 01:26:37.140] So you can't come back now and say oh all that stuff doesn't apply because I don't want it to
[01:26:37.140 --> 01:26:39.140] I didn't say that
[01:26:39.140 --> 01:26:43.140] What are you saying? It is what I say it is
[01:26:43.140 --> 01:26:47.140] So if I say it this way, none of that other stuff matters
[01:26:47.140 --> 01:26:52.140] You can't enforce that other law against me because I came in and made up my own
[01:26:52.140 --> 01:26:55.140] No I'm not saying that
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[01:31:16.560 --> 01:31:23.920] define it. I think it could be helpful to note that common law is not something, America
[01:31:23.920 --> 01:31:30.320] didn't come up with common law. This is something common to man, common to people, and something
[01:31:30.320 --> 01:31:39.440] that was just generally recognized. And we have codified that to the best of our ability
[01:31:40.000 --> 01:31:49.360] legislatures have codified that and made an attempt to say, okay, this is a crime. Yes,
[01:31:49.360 --> 01:31:54.800] we're going to prosecute this and it has these elements in it. And once it's been
[01:31:58.480 --> 01:32:06.240] presented in that way, then to prosecute it in a common law way is more fuzzy. And they say,
[01:32:06.240 --> 01:32:11.520] well, we're not going to do the fuzzy prosecutions. That's why we see comments
[01:32:14.160 --> 01:32:22.720] by legislatures saying the common law prosecutions are abolished because they figure they've covered
[01:32:22.720 --> 01:32:32.560] the bases well enough with codifying crimes that would have otherwise been just understood.
[01:32:36.560 --> 01:32:45.360] I mean, even Black's law even defines a court of record as a court that proceeds according
[01:32:45.360 --> 01:32:49.040] to the common law. This is literally out of Black's law.
[01:32:50.000 --> 01:32:57.520] What does the common law mean? Are they using common law there as a noun or as a transitive verb?
[01:32:57.520 --> 01:33:07.120] Are they using it as the common law as a noun or the law common to
[01:33:08.320 --> 01:33:12.960] the people? And that's the law that we've codified into code.
[01:33:15.680 --> 01:33:16.560] Yeah, I don't disagree.
[01:33:16.560 --> 01:33:22.480] I don't know. Are you looking at a Black that has some references to show
[01:33:23.120 --> 01:33:26.000] which case law they got that idea from, that definition?
[01:33:28.480 --> 01:33:32.320] I could look in the fourth edition because that has a lot of case law.
[01:33:33.280 --> 01:33:36.000] Right, that could be useful to help clarify.
[01:33:38.480 --> 01:33:44.240] A dictionary definition that has no case, especially a legal dictionary definition that
[01:33:44.240 --> 01:33:49.200] does not base its definition on specific case law is meaningless.
[01:33:49.200 --> 01:34:01.680] We have tried to take the common law and codified it into a code that everybody could read
[01:34:01.680 --> 01:34:12.480] and understand. And now we have people trying to make a distinction between this common law,
[01:34:12.480 --> 01:34:15.200] this law that's common to everybody and everybody knows it.
[01:34:16.080 --> 01:34:23.120] As opposed to that portion of the common law, we've tried to specify and lay down so everyone
[01:34:23.120 --> 01:34:31.760] would treat the application of the law consistently. So I will give you a very good example that comes
[01:34:31.760 --> 01:34:40.400] out of the statute of 42 USC 1983. And that had the mentioning of common law in it,
[01:34:40.400 --> 01:34:50.080] and then they took it out. And those were the 16 words that they took out where in the middle
[01:34:50.080 --> 01:35:00.720] of the language of the 1983 statute, it said notwithstanding to ordinance, blah, blah,
[01:35:00.720 --> 01:35:07.520] and then custom and usage. And custom and usage is the term describing common law. And there is
[01:35:08.240 --> 01:35:14.880] a amicus brief going to the Supreme Court from the Institute of Justice that talks about this,
[01:35:15.440 --> 01:35:21.680] about the removing of the words and what that means. And then there's the Supreme Court ruling
[01:35:23.520 --> 01:35:29.440] that- Wait a minute, what words were removed?
[01:35:31.440 --> 01:35:37.200] Yeah, I'd like to speak to that just briefly when you get you finished there.
[01:35:37.200 --> 01:35:38.240] Yeah, yeah.
[01:35:42.800 --> 01:35:52.400] Okay, so she was talking about notwithstanding ordinances, customs or usage and interpreting
[01:35:52.400 --> 01:36:01.760] that to mean common law. And I read that a little differently. When I've seen that phrase, it looks
[01:36:01.760 --> 01:36:11.600] to me like it's saying that you can sue a state actor for depriving you of your protected rights,
[01:36:11.600 --> 01:36:20.960] even if a state ordinance or a state custom or a state usage, de facto, this is the way we do
[01:36:20.960 --> 01:36:29.360] things around here. Even if some of that contradicts your protected right, you can still sue that state
[01:36:29.360 --> 01:36:35.760] actor because your right is still protected by the constitution, even if there is some
[01:36:36.320 --> 01:36:43.040] custom or usage. I don't think it's referring to common law in the way that you're drawing that
[01:36:43.040 --> 01:36:52.480] distinction as law that is common to all men versus law that has been codified. I don't think that's
[01:36:52.480 --> 01:36:58.320] what it's referencing there. I think it's just guaranteeing you that you can sue these state
[01:36:58.320 --> 01:37:05.040] actors for violating your protected rights. Yeah, I just sent you on Telegram. I sent you
[01:37:05.040 --> 01:37:13.040] the amicus brief of the Institute for Justice, and they went over the meaning of those 16 words
[01:37:13.040 --> 01:37:19.440] and then the removal from the statute. And they reference the common law many, many times. And
[01:37:19.440 --> 01:37:26.240] this is where I got it out. Okay, cool. Amongst other things. But then there's also the Supreme
[01:37:26.240 --> 01:37:36.080] Court ruling that did not rule favorable to them. But still, this is a reference to what this means
[01:37:39.840 --> 01:37:46.640] and explains that removal of these 16 words, basically, out of that statute.
[01:37:47.600 --> 01:37:54.560] So I feel like that there is a lot of reference to common law in the case law, actually.
[01:37:55.280 --> 01:38:04.560] And I don't... The point of all bringing this up here is not... I don't want to convince anyone
[01:38:04.560 --> 01:38:13.120] that there is common law. My intent for this phone call tonight was rather to see if you guys would
[01:38:13.680 --> 01:38:24.160] have a suspicion of what would happen if I reword my complaint into what I said,
[01:38:25.120 --> 01:38:34.240] leaving out all these statutes. If I just word it as that I claim that I am one of the people
[01:38:35.040 --> 01:38:40.400] that granted the government limited powers, and I'm here and I'm claiming that
[01:38:40.720 --> 01:38:51.920] there was a trespass on the case. Basically, that's a term that I got from another filing
[01:38:51.920 --> 01:38:57.920] common law claim papers that I read. And that I claim that these men and women didn't have
[01:38:57.920 --> 01:39:04.240] the right to do what they did. And so I cite the Constitution. I cite the oaths that they swore.
[01:39:04.320 --> 01:39:11.360] So I make it very simple. I don't mention statutes. And I'm just wondering
[01:39:12.480 --> 01:39:17.520] what would happen, because I believe everything that I claim I could support with evidence.
[01:39:19.120 --> 01:39:28.720] Yes, with evidence that's good enough for you. But how do you take something fuzzy like common law,
[01:39:29.680 --> 01:39:38.880] which is the way I look at it? Everybody defines common law so many different ways.
[01:39:39.600 --> 01:39:45.280] And I think that's because you can't go to check out a book and find, here's the book that says
[01:39:45.280 --> 01:39:50.640] the common law, and here it is from A to Z. You can't go read it. It doesn't exist. Some
[01:39:50.640 --> 01:39:56.480] lawyers even try to say that it includes case law, which is nothing but judicial opinions.
[01:39:59.200 --> 01:40:05.280] Honestly, the way I think it is, is the golden rule. Do unto others as you would have them do
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[01:43:22.160 --> 01:43:44.800] Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio. And I'm having a concern here,
[01:43:44.800 --> 01:43:51.120] and this is a concern I've had for a long time. That's why we're spending so much time on this.
[01:43:52.320 --> 01:44:01.040] I'm listening to you speak to common law and you're using the word common,
[01:44:02.400 --> 01:44:09.920] actually the phrase common law, in what appears to be at one point you're using it as a noun
[01:44:10.640 --> 01:44:13.840] and then the next time you're using it as a verb or an adjective.
[01:44:13.920 --> 01:44:18.640] And we're mixing these two uses of it together.
[01:44:20.320 --> 01:44:25.200] I know that probably doesn't make any sense, but the problem with the argument is the argument
[01:44:25.200 --> 01:44:32.800] doesn't make sense. Our legislature took what was considered to be the common law
[01:44:34.000 --> 01:44:42.240] and carefully analyzed and defined it and said, this is what the law of fraud is.
[01:44:43.120 --> 01:44:48.720] So we have common law fraud. Okay, how do I prove common law fraud?
[01:44:49.840 --> 01:44:55.760] Well, he told me I was fat and ugly, and I'm not fat and ugly. Well,
[01:44:57.120 --> 01:45:03.520] you may look at me and say, yeah, you are fat and ugly. So the belief is common to who?
[01:45:05.200 --> 01:45:11.920] The law is common to who? So the legislature said, okay, let's take this common law and let's
[01:45:12.800 --> 01:45:22.000] specify it. Let's add all of the pieces to it that are required in order to establish fraud
[01:45:23.440 --> 01:45:31.040] as opposed to other potential claims. Let's come up with a way to specifically define it.
[01:45:32.720 --> 01:45:39.120] It did not stop being part of the common law because the legislature carefully defined it.
[01:45:39.120 --> 01:45:50.400] But it just became more clear. So you're using common law and not being using it with enough
[01:45:50.400 --> 01:45:59.360] specificity for me to get sentences straightened out. I'm struggling to try to figure out how to
[01:45:59.360 --> 01:46:05.520] say something that's been bothering me for a very long time. Am I making any sense at all
[01:46:05.520 --> 01:46:21.440] or am I just rambling? So I would say that, like I said, I don't wanna prove what common law is.
[01:46:21.440 --> 01:46:30.080] I know it exists because Supreme Court rulings have it in their language.
[01:46:31.040 --> 01:46:35.040] No, wait a minute. Yeah, but you're saying our common law exists. Are you saying
[01:46:35.840 --> 01:46:43.840] law that is common exists? Or are you saying the noun common law, the proper noun common law
[01:46:43.840 --> 01:46:52.160] exists? The noun common law exists. That term exists. It's in many, many opinions.
[01:46:52.240 --> 01:47:00.000] What gives it, what is it then if it's a noun, it's a thing? Where do I find it?
[01:47:01.280 --> 01:47:05.840] I can only tell you what I understand. But as I said, I didn't wanna
[01:47:07.120 --> 01:47:11.200] prove to you what exactly it is because I'm not an expert on it.
[01:47:12.640 --> 01:47:18.560] We can't talk about it because you're saying the word common law and I'm sure it means something
[01:47:18.560 --> 01:47:24.640] to you. I'm not having the same meaning.
[01:47:25.760 --> 01:47:34.640] Okay, so to me, common law is defined as custom and usage unwritten. It's unwritten. That means
[01:47:34.640 --> 01:47:44.960] that what people do, what society does, you walk on the street, you meet someone that you know,
[01:47:44.960 --> 01:47:49.280] you will say hi. That's not a law. That's just common. It's just common practice.
[01:47:50.960 --> 01:48:00.480] It's unwritten. So basically what I understand, a common law proceeding in courts, and that's
[01:48:00.480 --> 01:48:07.840] also what I wanted to mention is the jury would determine the verdict, basically, would determine
[01:48:07.840 --> 01:48:12.320] what it is. The judge would just- Well, but here's the tricky part with that.
[01:48:13.280 --> 01:48:19.920] When you get a jury, you have to hand them, here's exactly what this person is charged with
[01:48:19.920 --> 01:48:27.200] and here are the elements of that. So you hand them like pattern jury charges or
[01:48:27.200 --> 01:48:31.600] standard jury instructions, they might be called. But it has a little checklist
[01:48:32.480 --> 01:48:41.440] that each juror can look at that list. There might be five check boxes. And so as they listen to the
[01:48:41.440 --> 01:48:51.280] witnesses coming up to testify, and they look at the evidence that's admitted, they can check
[01:48:51.280 --> 01:48:59.280] the boxes off and say, yes, there were facts sufficient and adequate to support a finding of
[01:48:59.280 --> 01:49:07.440] facts that supports this element. And if all those elements get supported, then you would have a
[01:49:07.440 --> 01:49:15.360] guilty. But without elements, if you have no elements, everything's just fuzzy.
[01:49:15.360 --> 01:49:22.000] Well, I believe he did wrong. Well, what's wrong? How do you punish somebody for what's
[01:49:22.000 --> 01:49:29.520] wrongness? It's general and fuzzy. I believe this guy committed child abuse by having sex with a
[01:49:30.240 --> 01:49:36.880] 14 year old girl. That depends on what country you're in, because in some countries in Africa,
[01:49:36.880 --> 01:49:44.800] it's the job of the uncle to teach the niece how to have sex.
[01:49:44.800 --> 01:49:51.840] So when she gets married, they will have a good relationship. Now in that culture,
[01:49:51.840 --> 01:49:57.360] that was perfectly fine. That was common law. Yep, not perfectly fine in this culture.
[01:49:58.240 --> 01:50:06.640] I was the movie pilot where this guy goes to Japan back in the time of the samurai.
[01:50:06.640 --> 01:50:13.200] The samurai kills this older guy, this servant, does something they didn't like. And the samurai
[01:50:13.200 --> 01:50:22.400] cut his head off. The pilot was just aghast. And the woman who was there to help him, she said,
[01:50:22.400 --> 01:50:27.600] no, you don't understand. Famine is rampant in Japan.
[01:50:29.680 --> 01:50:37.280] The samurai gave this man, who otherwise would likely die of starvation in old age,
[01:50:37.280 --> 01:50:42.800] gave him an honorable death. And because he gave this man an honorable death,
[01:50:42.800 --> 01:50:47.440] someone else won't starve to death. That's their common law.
[01:50:47.600 --> 01:50:54.480] Yeah, right. So, yeah, common law is not so common. And our legislatures and our courts said,
[01:50:54.480 --> 01:50:59.760] well, the legislature said, okay, let's take the common beliefs of the people.
[01:51:00.560 --> 01:51:05.040] Yeah, which were largely from England at the time. They got everything mainly from England.
[01:51:06.240 --> 01:51:13.680] And let's specify it. So it doesn't change with the day. It doesn't change with the season.
[01:51:13.840 --> 01:51:22.240] It doesn't change with the season. The law now becomes consistent. So how is this not the common
[01:51:22.240 --> 01:51:32.880] law? Just because it's specified and defined. Okay, now maybe we can get back to her question
[01:51:32.880 --> 01:51:40.720] with that that you've just said. Maybe we can link back to her question about what if she were to
[01:51:40.800 --> 01:51:46.800] take out everything in her pleadings that refers to a statute. What if she were to simply reference
[01:51:47.680 --> 01:51:54.880] common law in a general and vague way and say, hey, I'm one of the people you're responsible to
[01:51:54.880 --> 01:52:00.640] do according to your oath. You're not authorized to do this. And so this is a common law action
[01:52:00.640 --> 01:52:10.640] against you. What if? And I would say you lost your teeth. It lost its teeth. It lost its ability
[01:52:10.800 --> 01:52:17.200] to have a punishment that goes with it. Something that's codified that this kind of wrongdoing
[01:52:17.920 --> 01:52:23.840] has these elements that would, this is how you prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.
[01:52:24.560 --> 01:52:31.120] And if somebody does that, it has, what do you know? It's a third degree felony. It's a whatever.
[01:52:31.840 --> 01:52:35.520] It has this punishment associated with it. You lose all that.
[01:52:35.520 --> 01:52:44.480] But would I, so the punishment, I mean, that would come with the jury. The jury at the end would,
[01:52:44.480 --> 01:52:51.600] I guess, decide the punishment. But my main goal is to not get my case dismissed with prejudice,
[01:52:51.600 --> 01:52:57.920] which will likely happen because that's what they keep apparently doing. That's from what I'm reading
[01:52:57.920 --> 01:53:02.240] all the other cases. So if I look out their immunity.
[01:53:02.240 --> 01:53:09.680] Okay. That's a better question. I think that we can be more helpful with is how do we take
[01:53:11.280 --> 01:53:20.400] a pleading and get past their immunity? I think that we can work with a lot more easily.
[01:53:21.360 --> 01:53:28.400] I've gotten past the immunity question in the Fed. And I think Randy did with your
[01:53:29.520 --> 01:53:33.440] recent one, you got past immunity, right? They weren't claiming immunity at the end, were they?
[01:53:34.000 --> 01:53:34.800] No, they did not.
[01:53:34.800 --> 01:53:38.560] I think they started that way. But then when you show them that they don't have any,
[01:53:38.560 --> 01:53:40.640] they kind of shut up and start talking about other things.
[01:53:42.400 --> 01:53:48.080] What I did was I backed them into a corner. I asked them to do something they couldn't do.
[01:53:48.080 --> 01:53:56.080] I asked them for $485 million. And I asked for that from each of these judges individually. Well,
[01:53:56.080 --> 01:54:01.600] that's not gonna happen. So they didn't dismiss my case on its merits.
[01:54:03.200 --> 01:54:09.360] They didn't dismiss my case because I failed to state a claim.
[01:54:09.360 --> 01:54:13.600] They didn't dismiss my case because the judges had immunity.
[01:54:13.600 --> 01:54:18.880] They dismissed it because it was frivolous, because they wanted to.
[01:54:19.840 --> 01:54:26.640] So that's gonna happen. And there's some things, there's no magic here.
[01:54:28.800 --> 01:54:35.440] There's no incantation that you can do that will magically make people do the right thing.
[01:54:36.000 --> 01:54:39.680] Right. It's just hard work holding them accountable when they don't.
[01:54:40.400 --> 01:54:46.880] And if you rewrite the pleading, I sat as a mock judge in a mock trial in Massachusetts.
[01:54:47.680 --> 01:54:54.000] And these guys were getting up there talking about all this patriot theory.
[01:54:54.880 --> 01:54:57.920] And I sat there and listened to them, and I'm sitting here as the judge.
[01:54:57.920 --> 01:55:03.360] Okay, it is my job to determine the facts in accordance with the rules of evidence
[01:55:03.360 --> 01:55:06.160] and apply the laws that comes to me to the facts of the case.
[01:55:06.160 --> 01:55:08.880] And I'm sitting here and say, okay, give me some facts.
[01:55:09.680 --> 01:55:12.320] And now give me some law as it goes to those facts.
[01:55:13.840 --> 01:55:20.240] They're not doing any of that stuff. And I'm thinking, I got nothing I can use here.
[01:55:20.960 --> 01:55:27.360] I have not given me anything I can rule on. If you do that, if you take out all the facts and stuff
[01:55:27.360 --> 01:55:32.080] and just tell them what you believe the common law is, the judge may agree with you.
[01:55:33.040 --> 01:55:38.640] But you haven't given the judge anything he can rule on. It's his job to
[01:55:39.440 --> 01:55:41.520] determine the facts and apply the law to the facts.
[01:55:42.160 --> 01:55:46.000] Without that, you haven't asked the judge to do anything. We'll be right back.
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[02:00:03.040 --> 02:00:18.880] I received my remedy today.
[02:00:20.560 --> 02:00:28.640] Game in the box, just like they say. I accept it for value right away, if not sooner,
[02:00:29.280 --> 02:00:37.280] not later. We are originators, and the pathway seems to get straighter every day.
[02:00:38.960 --> 02:00:44.480] And I can take anything that belongs to me and put it to good use.
[02:00:46.080 --> 02:00:51.280] What I was good for, the gander, is gonna work for the goose.
[02:00:51.280 --> 02:01:05.680] Okay, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rue Le Blanc radio. And this time, finally, Brett told me
[02:01:05.680 --> 02:01:14.800] what year it was. But he told me he's wrong. That's elder abuse.
[02:01:15.680 --> 02:01:26.560] Okay, this is January the 17th, 2025. Thank you very much, Brett. Okay, Teresa, this has been a
[02:01:26.560 --> 02:01:35.600] good conversation because this has always been a very difficult problem. Brett and I have dealt
[02:01:35.600 --> 02:01:41.760] with this common law issues. We get people coming on with common law stuff, and they bring out the
[02:01:41.760 --> 02:01:48.800] absolute craziest stuff you can imagine. And then they wind up going to jail,
[02:01:49.680 --> 02:01:57.600] and they don't understand, they're flabbergasted. And every time somebody mentions common law,
[02:01:57.600 --> 02:02:05.200] we tense up. Because what you're doing is rational and reasonable.
[02:02:06.800 --> 02:02:11.360] I'm gonna say it's not gonna work, but you're taking a rational and reasonable approach to it.
[02:02:11.760 --> 02:02:19.840] But these guys do the absolute nutsiest stuff. And then when they get in jail, they call us to
[02:02:19.840 --> 02:02:28.560] get them out. And it really gets frustrating for us. So this was a good conversation, trying to
[02:02:28.560 --> 02:02:35.520] figure out how to address this to these guys. Because I really think the feds put this out here
[02:02:36.400 --> 02:02:40.000] to nullify the legal reform community.
[02:02:41.760 --> 02:02:48.720] And they've done a really good job of it. You don't see it much on our show because
[02:02:48.720 --> 02:02:54.080] we have those guys come on and we send them packing. They do the same things, all of them
[02:02:54.080 --> 02:02:59.440] do exactly the same thing. They will state something that's preposterous. And when you
[02:02:59.440 --> 02:03:04.720] demonstrate how it's preposterous, yeah, but what about this? And they'll jump to something else,
[02:03:04.720 --> 02:03:09.200] totally different justice preposterous. And you shoot down that one, oh, what about this?
[02:03:09.200 --> 02:03:13.760] And they jump to something else and something else and something else. All of them do that
[02:03:13.760 --> 02:03:19.200] exact same thing. I don't know where that comes from. I don't know who teaches that.
[02:03:20.880 --> 02:03:27.360] But they all tell the same preposterous story, same way. And if you challenge them,
[02:03:28.160 --> 02:03:33.200] their method of response is insulting and dismissive.
[02:03:34.960 --> 02:03:39.360] It's really rude what they do, but all of them do that the same way.
[02:03:42.320 --> 02:03:44.000] Who is teaching that stuff?
[02:03:44.000 --> 02:03:50.000] I mean, there's so many people that teach, I guess, what you talk about,
[02:03:50.000 --> 02:03:57.920] the patriot mythology and stuff. And the thing is, I think they are mixing
[02:03:58.320 --> 02:04:06.000] the actual common law, which did exist. And I sent you that as well, Randy, on Telegram.
[02:04:06.720 --> 02:04:12.560] It does exist in the judicial realm still, because they reference it, they respond to it.
[02:04:13.120 --> 02:04:20.880] I can't exactly tell you the definition, because I'm really not educated enough about it. But I
[02:04:20.880 --> 02:04:30.560] know that it exists, because it is referenced in a multitude of legal opinions, and it's there.
[02:04:32.880 --> 02:04:36.800] I've been 30 years telling these people, I would love to find this.
[02:04:37.920 --> 02:04:44.960] This would be a great tool to use. But Winston Shroud, he's one of the originals.
[02:04:45.600 --> 02:04:52.320] Sam Kennedy, Winston Shroud, George, not George Gordon, Tim Turner.
[02:04:54.160 --> 02:04:56.960] What's the one that's dying of cancer right now, Brett?
[02:04:59.280 --> 02:04:59.760] I don't know.
[02:05:00.560 --> 02:05:05.600] Oh, the lesson. But all of these guys are teaching the same spiel.
[02:05:05.600 --> 02:05:14.800] And I never could get it. They all do the same things exactly the same way.
[02:05:15.360 --> 02:05:22.880] They're even insulting and dismissive in exactly the same way. What the heck is going on here?
[02:05:24.080 --> 02:05:25.760] What do you think about George Gordon?
[02:05:28.160 --> 02:05:32.240] He was, George Gordon was, I learned from George Gordon.
[02:05:32.880 --> 02:05:39.440] George Gordon was a creature of statute. He didn't do everything the way I did it,
[02:05:39.440 --> 02:05:45.920] but he did everything by law. He didn't do any, go ahead.
[02:05:49.440 --> 02:05:56.720] He didn't do any patriot mythology. This is my problem with Winston Shroud. I said,
[02:05:57.520 --> 02:06:00.480] Winston, he's telling me about all the bankruptcy and all this stuff.
[02:06:01.360 --> 02:06:04.560] I said, Winston, where did you come up with all this stuff?
[02:06:06.160 --> 02:06:12.560] He said, well, I ask him first, where is the law supporting what you're saying?
[02:06:13.200 --> 02:06:19.840] He said, well, I don't think you'll find any. Well, where did you come up with this? Said,
[02:06:20.640 --> 02:06:31.520] I figured it out. So essentially, you made it up. Long pause, and I weren't live on the air.
[02:06:31.520 --> 02:06:35.120] Long pause, and he said, well, yeah, I guess I did.
[02:06:36.640 --> 02:06:41.920] Said, Winston, I'm a creature of statute. I can't go into court without made it up.
[02:06:42.080 --> 02:06:50.480] I have to give the court facts and law. And whatever we think of the common law, when we're
[02:06:50.480 --> 02:07:01.760] in court, the only thing he can pay attention to is facts and law as it's codified by the legislature
[02:07:02.400 --> 02:07:07.120] and applied by the courts. That's the only thing he can see.
[02:07:07.120 --> 02:07:13.440] He could agree with you. I said in this mock court, and I agreed with these guys.
[02:07:13.440 --> 02:07:20.960] What he did was, while it was improperly unethical, it wasn't illegal.
[02:07:22.080 --> 02:07:24.480] It was a loophole in the law. They hadn't closed.
[02:07:26.560 --> 02:07:30.720] But he's not arguing that. He's arguing all this patriot stuff.
[02:07:31.280 --> 02:07:37.600] And I'm saying, I can't use that. Give me facts and law. Show how
[02:07:39.760 --> 02:07:45.280] what they're filing these liens against public officials is right there in the code.
[02:07:45.280 --> 02:07:52.720] It says you can do that. Now, he used it in a way that it wasn't intended to be used.
[02:07:53.840 --> 02:07:59.360] But it was right there in the code. So to stop all that, they had to pass new law.
[02:08:00.320 --> 02:08:04.400] If George Gordon, he would argue the law. He would say exactly,
[02:08:05.040 --> 02:08:08.560] this is where the code allows me to write a lien.
[02:08:11.680 --> 02:08:17.680] Yeah, and George Gordon taught common law. This is what his school was named.
[02:08:19.840 --> 02:08:28.000] I never, okay, I didn't study George Gordon deep enough to get into his common law arguments. I've
[02:08:28.000 --> 02:08:36.560] never seen any of his common law arguments. I would like to, because that guy was, he did his homework.
[02:08:37.920 --> 02:08:38.880] Yeah, I think so.
[02:08:40.320 --> 02:08:44.080] I'll see if you can find some of George Gordon's work on common law.
[02:08:44.880 --> 02:08:46.320] I would love to be able to use it.
[02:08:47.680 --> 02:08:52.800] Yeah, I mean, I listened to all his YouTube videos that are still on YouTube.
[02:08:52.800 --> 02:09:00.080] There's, I mean, he basically, he argued the same thing that I'm arguing. He argued that there's
[02:09:00.080 --> 02:09:06.000] the Constitution, the people gave the government the power, it's limited. The government doesn't
[02:09:06.000 --> 02:09:12.160] have the power to tell us to wear seat belts or that we need a license for private purposes
[02:09:12.160 --> 02:09:19.920] or any such stuff. That's the same coming from the same angle, basically. And that's where I take-
[02:09:20.160 --> 02:09:29.520] No, that's a different issue. Where the government, if he's talking the traffic issue,
[02:09:29.520 --> 02:09:34.320] that's a separate issue. The government does have the power to do that in Arizona.
[02:09:35.680 --> 02:09:42.160] Because in Arizona, they passed the traffic laws into the general statutes. In Texas,
[02:09:42.560 --> 02:09:46.880] they didn't pass the traffic law into the general statutes.
[02:09:48.080 --> 02:09:54.240] So they can pass all these traffic laws they want to, but they don't apply to me.
[02:09:56.480 --> 02:09:58.880] Because I've got plates on that say deadheading.
[02:10:00.800 --> 02:10:10.240] That says I'm not in commerce. And if you say that I have to display license plates,
[02:10:10.240 --> 02:10:17.280] and this is exactly what I said to the GPS officer. So you're saying that the public
[02:10:17.280 --> 02:10:24.080] roadways are no longer public, but they can only be used for commercial purposes.
[02:10:26.160 --> 02:10:31.680] And he took a step back, physically he took a step back. He had nothing he could say.
[02:10:31.680 --> 02:10:41.040] That's right. You can pass, you can tell me I have to wear a seatbelt,
[02:10:41.040 --> 02:10:46.240] but if I'm not in commerce, that doesn't apply to me, so you can't tell me that.
[02:10:47.360 --> 02:10:52.880] The legislature, if they pass laws that are not pugnitor constitution,
[02:10:53.360 --> 02:11:03.040] they can pass any law they want to. We authorize them to do that with our constitution.
[02:11:06.400 --> 02:11:07.840] And essentially-
[02:11:07.840 --> 02:11:11.040] Well, they can pass any law that they want to. They can only
[02:11:11.040 --> 02:11:15.600] exercise power that they have been given and that-
[02:11:15.600 --> 02:11:22.400] Yeah, they can pass any law they want to within the scope of that constitution.
[02:11:23.200 --> 02:11:27.760] Right, and it's not big. It's actually very small, but they-
[02:11:27.760 --> 02:11:33.040] They can pass laws as long as it doesn't step on a constitutional right.
[02:11:34.000 --> 02:11:36.720] Yeah. We authorized them to do that.
[02:11:39.440 --> 02:11:50.320] So with what you're purporting to do, the problem I have with it is you're not moving the court to
[02:11:50.320 --> 02:11:59.280] do something. You're just telling them what your opinion is, like these guys in that mock court.
[02:11:59.280 --> 02:12:05.920] I called a recess and they actually picked a jury off the street, these people to participate,
[02:12:05.920 --> 02:12:10.640] and they had this common law jury in there too. I'm sorry, mock jury.
[02:12:11.520 --> 02:12:16.480] And I called a recess and I told him, told this guy, this guy over here helping you,
[02:12:16.640 --> 02:12:22.320] if he gets up and says anything else, you have my permission to shoot him.
[02:12:23.840 --> 02:12:29.680] He's gonna get you put in prison, because they spent two and a half hours
[02:12:30.400 --> 02:12:38.160] going through every bit of patriot mythology you could imagine. Not one bit of it based on
[02:12:38.960 --> 02:12:45.680] any law whatsoever. They just pulled all this stuff
[02:12:46.480 --> 02:12:58.560] out of nowhere. They started out with a 1863 treaty that created the United States as a
[02:12:58.560 --> 02:13:12.640] corporation. Probably heard of that. I read it. When they said use the word corporation,
[02:13:12.640 --> 02:13:21.680] they used it as a transitive verb, not as a noun. They said we have 10 municipalities
[02:13:21.680 --> 02:13:30.000] in this 10 square miles. They straddle the line between Virginia and Rhode Island.
[02:13:33.600 --> 02:13:38.640] And so we're gonna incorporate all of these into one jurisdiction.
[02:13:38.640 --> 02:13:45.440] They used incorporate as a verb, not as a noun.
[02:13:46.640 --> 02:13:50.400] And then the patriots come along and said, it's a corporation.
[02:13:51.120 --> 02:13:58.160] To know it's incorporated into one thing. And from that they went crazy. Hang on, we'll be right back.
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[02:16:54.240 --> 02:17:08.800] Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio. We're talking to Alex in
[02:17:10.480 --> 02:17:13.440] California, and we have spent a lot of time on this, but
[02:17:15.440 --> 02:17:21.840] this is one of my favorite subjects, and it's been a thorny issue, so I appreciate
[02:17:22.720 --> 02:17:30.720] getting the time to take this apart. I'm trying to find a really effective way
[02:17:31.760 --> 02:17:38.640] to address this so people don't take these patriot notions and go get themselves in trouble.
[02:17:40.960 --> 02:17:46.160] Did you know, Randy, that in this document that I sent you last week about
[02:17:46.880 --> 02:17:55.520] what they published for the court to overcome the sovereign citizen movement,
[02:17:56.480 --> 02:17:59.440] in that document they actually mentioned George Gordon.
[02:18:04.720 --> 02:18:10.800] I understand them wanting to mention George Gordon because he's probably someone who gave him a fit.
[02:18:11.520 --> 02:18:18.000] Tim Turner and Sam Kennedy and Winston Shroud, they were not a problem
[02:18:20.000 --> 02:18:22.240] because they didn't do any law. George Gordon,
[02:18:22.960 --> 02:18:27.600] he took the law to him, so I can see him not being happy with him.
[02:18:30.560 --> 02:18:35.840] Yeah, I was actually trying to find cases of George Gordon. I only found one where he lost.
[02:18:35.840 --> 02:18:41.040] I didn't find all the other ones. Maybe they scrubbed him from the internet. I don't know,
[02:18:41.040 --> 02:18:43.840] but I would love to read them. Can't find them.
[02:18:46.480 --> 02:18:55.360] His institute is still up and running, as I understand. His wife or his son or somebody is.
[02:18:56.800 --> 02:18:57.760] His wife, I think.
[02:18:58.720 --> 02:19:07.680] But yeah, I'll try to find them. But I found that, I think, I find it kind of alarming that they
[02:19:08.560 --> 02:19:15.520] smush together the really crazy ones that you're referring to and the actual people who go by what's
[02:19:15.520 --> 02:19:22.400] on what we actually have as laws. We're the ones that are the problem.
[02:19:24.080 --> 02:19:26.640] These patriot mythologists, they're easy to handle.
[02:19:28.720 --> 02:19:34.560] But when was the last time the Chief Justice of the Supreme got played like a cheap fiddle then
[02:19:34.560 --> 02:19:41.440] sued for $20 billion in his personal capacity to the federal court? That makes them real unhappy.
[02:19:42.720 --> 02:19:46.400] They are gonna want to find a way to neutralize Brett and I.
[02:19:48.720 --> 02:19:53.680] We're taking these guys to task and they are not happy about it.
[02:19:53.680 --> 02:19:56.400] The patriot mythologists, heck, they were a piece of cake.
[02:20:00.320 --> 02:20:07.760] George Gordon Institute of TAFE. Technical and Further Education.
[02:20:10.160 --> 02:20:21.440] So apparently still around. You can go into PACER and do a search for George Gordon.
[02:20:22.320 --> 02:20:26.720] She did get a hit. He was out of Oklahoma.
[02:20:31.200 --> 02:20:32.480] I thought he was in Oklahoma.
[02:20:33.680 --> 02:20:38.000] Well, when he talked, he was always talking about Ada County and Idaho.
[02:20:38.880 --> 02:20:40.800] Oh, okay. That's right.
[02:20:41.920 --> 02:20:43.200] Ada County, Idaho.
[02:20:43.200 --> 02:20:56.160] So you go into PACER and you do a search for the Idaho federal court
[02:20:56.880 --> 02:21:01.680] and then do a search for George Gordon. She did get cases that hit.
[02:21:03.200 --> 02:21:06.080] Yeah, I'll have to make an account. Just a quick-
[02:21:06.080 --> 02:21:07.840] Oh, wait a minute. Wait a minute.
[02:21:07.840 --> 02:21:08.340] Yeah.
[02:21:08.420 --> 02:21:18.340] Charles George Gordon, this says. No, maybe that's somebody else.
[02:21:22.020 --> 02:21:29.700] It says General Charles Gordon, George Gordon. That must be one of his ancestors.
[02:21:38.900 --> 02:21:47.940] This is saying this George Gordon Institute started in 1885.
[02:21:49.060 --> 02:21:56.740] Gordon Institute of TAFE. That's just to be the wrong one. Okay, I'll try to pick up George Gordon.
[02:21:59.620 --> 02:22:05.620] Because he said he won over 30 cases and he said that in the 80s when he was talking.
[02:22:05.620 --> 02:22:11.940] So I was trying to find those cases. But yeah, I'll have to make a PACER account. I haven't done
[02:22:11.940 --> 02:22:19.220] that yet. Okay, so we need to go on.
[02:22:22.580 --> 02:22:28.100] Can I just one quick question, Brett? Did they claim judicial immunity, Brett,
[02:22:28.100 --> 02:22:34.740] in your case and how did you overcome that? In mine, I wasn't suing a judge.
[02:22:35.620 --> 02:22:40.420] I was suing a prosecutor. So they were going after her prosecutorial immunity,
[02:22:40.420 --> 02:22:47.140] hoping they could grasp at that straw. And then when I showed them they don't get to have that straw,
[02:22:48.180 --> 02:22:52.980] well, they started going at other straws and seeing what else they could.
[02:22:54.340 --> 02:23:01.300] But they didn't come back to that. Okay, in my case, they claim judicial immunity
[02:23:01.300 --> 02:23:11.140] under Texas Civil Practice and Remedies Code 104.001.
[02:23:13.780 --> 02:23:23.060] What that one says is the state shall indemnify a public official sued in his official capacity.
[02:23:24.020 --> 02:23:31.060] Oh yeah, indemnify. Immunity is not in there anywhere. And that was what I argued.
[02:23:32.820 --> 02:23:38.260] Why didn't they claim judicial immunity? And that's what they always do, like the actual doctrine.
[02:23:39.940 --> 02:23:44.420] Well, they couldn't because I did not sue them for a judicial act.
[02:23:47.540 --> 02:23:51.220] But they could have claimed, no, that was a judicial act or something.
[02:23:53.060 --> 02:23:58.980] They could, but I sued the state actors in the federal courts.
[02:24:01.540 --> 02:24:10.020] There's no way for the state to immunize its officials so that they're
[02:24:13.220 --> 02:24:19.060] without impunity to just deprive you of your federally protected rights.
[02:24:20.020 --> 02:24:22.580] The state can't do that.
[02:24:23.940 --> 02:24:28.660] That would violate the supremacy clause. That's what the case law says.
[02:24:30.580 --> 02:24:33.540] But at the end of the day, I'm going to suggest you stay with
[02:24:34.340 --> 02:24:39.940] the statute and case law that the courts use. If you go to something they don't use,
[02:24:39.940 --> 02:24:44.100] they're just going to blow you away. Or do whatever they want.
[02:24:44.100 --> 02:24:51.140] Did they claim 11th Amendment immunity? No.
[02:24:53.540 --> 02:25:00.580] Interesting. Wow. Okay. All right. I know you have to move on and we talked so long.
[02:25:00.580 --> 02:25:03.460] And thank you so much for your time, both of you.
[02:25:04.500 --> 02:25:10.500] Okay. Thank you, Alex. Okay. Now we're going to Teresa in California. Hello, Teresa.
[02:25:11.140 --> 02:25:13.140] What do you have for us today?
[02:25:15.140 --> 02:25:24.900] Okay. So I was walking down the street about four or five months ago, and I was
[02:25:24.900 --> 02:25:32.020] ambushed by three sheriff's deputies that claimed I fit the description of a
[02:25:32.020 --> 02:25:36.900] suspect that had just robbed a local store. Oh, my.
[02:25:36.980 --> 02:25:44.420] Hi. Yeah. And I invoked my first amendment right to remain silent and demanded an attorney.
[02:25:45.140 --> 02:25:51.300] And immediately I had some guy who was groping me. I was thrown in cuffs and then thrown,
[02:25:51.300 --> 02:26:01.380] strapped into the police, the sheriff's vehicle. So I requested a copy of the incident report
[02:26:01.940 --> 02:26:12.260] of the burglary and a copy of the description of the suspect. And they just, can I?
[02:26:12.260 --> 02:26:22.260] Smart. Yeah. This is a question I want to ask you guys. So they are claiming that both the incident
[02:26:22.260 --> 02:26:29.220] report and a description of the suspect are exempt from disclosure.
[02:26:30.740 --> 02:26:42.660] And claiming what? She said exempt from disclosure. Now, what they might be saying is if it's
[02:26:42.660 --> 02:26:49.860] requested as a public records request, but we'll help you get that translated into a discovery
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[02:30:54.020 --> 02:30:58.900] Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Radio and we're talking to Teresa in California.
[02:31:01.060 --> 02:31:04.020] Teresa, did they take you to a magistrate?
[02:31:05.620 --> 02:31:11.300] Well, what wound up happening was after they strapped me in the car,
[02:31:12.100 --> 02:31:18.020] I said, okay, I'll give you my last name. You have to take me out of the cuffs in the car first,
[02:31:18.980 --> 02:31:24.980] uh, which they did. Then I gave them my last name and then they wanted my date of birth.
[02:31:25.540 --> 02:31:29.860] So, and, and I told them, I'm not going to give you my date of birth. You'll have to put me back
[02:31:29.860 --> 02:31:38.180] in the car and take me to jail, which they didn't do. So I walked away. But the, the question is,
[02:31:39.140 --> 02:31:44.580] am I entitled to that record if that's the reason that I was handcuffed?
[02:31:44.580 --> 02:31:48.740] Okay. Hold on. Hold on. Were you charged with this offense?
[02:31:51.220 --> 02:31:56.100] Pardon me? Were you charged and prosecuted for this offense?
[02:31:57.140 --> 02:32:00.100] No. They just let you walk.
[02:32:01.220 --> 02:32:04.900] They didn't give you a summons to show up in court and defend yourself about anything?
[02:32:06.180 --> 02:32:08.340] Uh, no, because I went to. Okay.
[02:32:09.220 --> 02:32:15.940] If there is no case in no, in controversy, it's open records.
[02:32:16.820 --> 02:32:24.820] Yep. So what I suggest is, is what, what we're doing here is instead of going in there and
[02:32:24.820 --> 02:32:29.060] fighting with these guys, trying to get them to do the right thing. Cause you're in California.
[02:32:29.940 --> 02:32:36.740] Yes. Yeah. We have people calling in and say, oh, my county is the most corrupt county in the nation.
[02:32:37.700 --> 02:32:41.780] And now I tell them, not if you're not in California, it ain't.
[02:32:44.900 --> 02:32:50.100] California has a really great body of law. There's nobody follows it. So,
[02:32:51.700 --> 02:33:02.260] uh, these guys want to fight. Let's take it to them. I went to a judge here in Texas and
[02:33:02.260 --> 02:33:06.020] gave him a criminal complaint against the sheriff.
[02:33:07.860 --> 02:33:17.060] And the law says that when I, a complaint is presented forwarded to a judge and is complete
[02:33:17.060 --> 02:33:22.900] in accordance with 1505, the judge shall forth with issue a warrant. He didn't force it with
[02:33:22.900 --> 02:33:30.900] issue a warrant. I went down to the JP court and sued him in the JP court for $19,000 in his
[02:33:30.900 --> 02:33:38.020] personal capacity. How's that work for you, Bubba? So this, you have asked for these records.
[02:33:39.220 --> 02:33:48.420] The prosecutor didn't give them to you. Make up a small claims court case. In Texas, it costs like
[02:33:48.420 --> 02:34:00.100] $54 and sue him in his personal capacity in the federal court or in the, in the small claims court.
[02:34:01.860 --> 02:34:08.020] Because if these were open records, he had a duty to give those to you. He denied you
[02:34:08.020 --> 02:34:13.940] full and free access to or enjoyment of a right and committed the act of official misconduct.
[02:34:14.500 --> 02:34:21.140] And criminal acts are not within scope. And since they're not within scope, he has no immunity.
[02:34:22.260 --> 02:34:26.100] Let him argue immunity in the small claims court.
[02:34:26.100 --> 02:34:32.260] Well, it wasn't the prosecutor. It was the sheriff's department refused-
[02:34:32.260 --> 02:34:34.100] That'll do. Yeah, whoever it is.
[02:34:34.100 --> 02:34:34.660] Doesn't matter.
[02:34:35.220 --> 02:34:36.340] Let's start suing him.
[02:34:36.900 --> 02:34:38.100] It doesn't matter, yeah.
[02:34:38.100 --> 02:34:40.420] Yeah, it don't matter if we win or not.
[02:34:41.460 --> 02:34:48.020] Hold the top dog accountable. I like to go for the man or woman that's standing in your face.
[02:34:48.900 --> 02:34:55.860] Whoever that man or woman, pick that name and then draw a line all the way up the org chart
[02:34:55.860 --> 02:35:02.500] to the highest head of that whole agency or entity. Because they're the one who's
[02:35:02.500 --> 02:35:08.020] responsible for the proper training. And so the man or woman who's standing in front of you,
[02:35:08.020 --> 02:35:15.860] doing you wrong, stepping all over your rights is doing it as an agent of that top dog.
[02:35:15.860 --> 02:35:17.860] So I name those two.
[02:35:18.820 --> 02:35:24.420] Let me tell you what started me on this direction. I've been trying to figure out a way to fix this
[02:35:24.420 --> 02:35:32.580] system for a long time. And then I hear about this kid in Colorado Springs. He's across the
[02:35:32.580 --> 02:35:39.140] street from the sheriff's department videotaping the police department. He's videotaping them.
[02:35:40.340 --> 02:35:46.100] They come over and arrest him and hold him for 14 hours and turn him loose. No charges.
[02:35:46.340 --> 02:35:54.980] He sues them for 70 something thousand. In four months, they settled for $17,000.
[02:35:59.700 --> 02:36:04.980] Would you spend 14 hours in jail for $17,000?
[02:36:04.980 --> 02:36:07.700] No.
[02:36:09.940 --> 02:36:17.300] I would. I spent more time in that in jail for less than that. But to keep this from happening,
[02:36:17.860 --> 02:36:22.180] you were arrested. They cuffed you and put you in the patrol car.
[02:36:23.220 --> 02:36:23.460] Right.
[02:36:23.460 --> 02:36:28.100] That's false imprisonment. And for a charge of false imprisonment,
[02:36:28.660 --> 02:36:35.220] that is one of the only things for which the state waives its sovereign immunity.
[02:36:37.860 --> 02:36:41.620] You sue for false imprisonment, they got no immunity.
[02:36:42.980 --> 02:36:50.180] Okay. Can I read you guys the code that he cited in order to claim that these two records were
[02:36:50.180 --> 02:36:52.740] exempt from disclosure? Yes.
[02:36:53.540 --> 02:37:02.180] It's short. Okay. It's 7923.600. This division does not require the disclosure of records of
[02:37:02.180 --> 02:37:10.740] complaints or investigations conducted by records intelligence security procedures of any estate or
[02:37:10.740 --> 02:37:20.100] local police agency or any investigatory or security files. So, I mean, they said that the
[02:37:20.740 --> 02:37:28.820] investigation is still open, but it seems to me to kind of defy logic that if I was arrested,
[02:37:28.820 --> 02:37:34.820] because I fit the description of the suspect, that that should be disposable to me under the
[02:37:34.820 --> 02:37:38.340] California Public Records Act. Or am I going to have to get-
[02:37:38.340 --> 02:37:42.660] No, no, no, no, no. Not Public Records Act. Discovery.
[02:37:44.420 --> 02:37:48.580] Yeah. You could get at it via discovery if they were coming after you.
[02:37:49.540 --> 02:37:55.380] But if they are legitimately still trying to find that criminal, then you don't get to,
[02:37:55.380 --> 02:38:02.020] you as part of the public, don't get to access that record while they're doing their investigation.
[02:38:03.380 --> 02:38:10.340] You can only get it once they've finished investigating. Then you can take a look at,
[02:38:10.340 --> 02:38:14.660] here's all the stuff that they were told, and here's who told them and when, and
[02:38:15.220 --> 02:38:17.220] here's who forwarded an email to whom.
[02:38:17.220 --> 02:38:20.100] You can look at all that stuff, but not while they're investigating.
[02:38:20.740 --> 02:38:23.540] Wait a minute. Wait a minute. This is a done deal.
[02:38:25.940 --> 02:38:31.700] No. They cuffed you and then they released you without charge.
[02:38:32.340 --> 02:38:35.380] Yeah, that part is the unlawful restraint is over.
[02:38:35.940 --> 02:38:36.900] That is a done deal.
[02:38:36.900 --> 02:38:41.140] You can go after them about that. But she would have to sue them in order to have discovery.
[02:38:41.380 --> 02:38:45.700] But yes, what I'm saying, sue them in the small claims court.
[02:38:46.260 --> 02:38:50.500] It only costs you a few bucks. And then you can do discovery.
[02:38:51.220 --> 02:38:56.260] Yeah. So if you sue them, then you get access to those records, not by public records,
[02:38:57.540 --> 02:39:04.100] not by whatever the California has for public records laws, but by discovery, court discovery.
[02:39:04.100 --> 02:39:09.780] You go into court and you compel them to disclose those records.
[02:39:10.740 --> 02:39:15.620] Okay. So in other words, I can get discovery if I file a small claim suit.
[02:39:16.980 --> 02:39:21.380] Yes. Oh, I didn't know that. Okay.
[02:39:22.900 --> 02:39:26.260] It will make them so crazy if you start suing them.
[02:39:27.220 --> 02:39:31.060] They will so hate you. They won't send you any Christmas cards.
[02:39:33.380 --> 02:39:36.100] That's a serious drawback. You have to consider that part.
[02:39:37.060 --> 02:39:39.460] But they also won't pull you over anymore.
[02:39:41.540 --> 02:39:47.060] They pull up your name and they'll get this red line, diagonal line across it that says,
[02:39:47.620 --> 02:39:49.220] do not detain.
[02:39:50.820 --> 02:39:54.740] That has happened to me twice in the past six months. Yeah.
[02:39:56.020 --> 02:40:00.340] That you've been stopped this way? Sue both of them.
[02:40:01.300 --> 02:40:04.260] I'm I'm going to, I'm going to.
[02:40:06.180 --> 02:40:10.820] With the California highway patrol, when I back my car into a ditch
[02:40:12.100 --> 02:40:18.100] and they were harassing me for about 13 minutes and I refused to give them, well,
[02:40:18.100 --> 02:40:21.540] he grabbed the license out of my hand, but I'm not going to get into that.
[02:40:21.540 --> 02:40:27.860] The other time was when these guys cuffed me and then they ran my name and then they let me go.
[02:40:28.820 --> 02:40:32.020] Oh, cops cuss you. Oh, wonderful.
[02:40:33.780 --> 02:40:39.540] Yeah. Pardon me. The shaft that you said. Oh, wonderful. Just sue him.
[02:40:40.740 --> 02:40:44.740] Okay. This will make this is how we're going to get control of our system.
[02:40:45.460 --> 02:40:50.660] Of all the things I've done, nothing worked until I sued them.
[02:40:51.380 --> 02:40:55.620] Hang on. We'll be right back.
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[02:43:25.300 --> 02:43:31.940] Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio, and we're talking to
[02:43:33.780 --> 02:43:40.260] Teresa in California. Okay, this is, when 30 years trying to
[02:43:41.780 --> 02:43:48.420] figure out how to fix this system, I have filed more criminal complaints that I can count.
[02:43:49.940 --> 02:43:53.460] Been beat up, thrown in jail more times than I remember.
[02:43:54.740 --> 02:44:00.980] Three dislocated ribs, two broken collarbones, tipped elbow, and a tooth knocked out.
[02:44:02.820 --> 02:44:09.460] And none of that did any good until I sued them. And in Brett sued them.
[02:44:11.300 --> 02:44:16.900] And Glenn Willingham sued them. That makes them nuts.
[02:44:17.540 --> 02:44:23.940] So I like the idea of suing them for bull crap.
[02:44:26.420 --> 02:44:33.140] What I was doing with criminal complaints is I would go in and get them to do something so I
[02:44:33.140 --> 02:44:37.220] could file criminal charges against them. Well, that worked pretty good. That really got their
[02:44:37.220 --> 02:44:44.100] attention. But when I sent a criminal complaint to the Chief Justice of the Supreme against the
[02:44:44.180 --> 02:44:52.020] governor and demanded that he issue warrants, and when he didn't, since the law commanded him to do
[02:44:52.020 --> 02:44:59.140] it, that made it an ministerial duty for which he had no immunity. I sued him in the federal
[02:44:59.140 --> 02:45:06.900] court for $20 million. And it was clear to him later that I played him like a cheap fiddle.
[02:45:06.900 --> 02:45:13.060] And that's what made him the most angry is that I played him.
[02:45:14.180 --> 02:45:22.340] So you get these guys to stop you and sue them the next day. We have a guy in San Antonio
[02:45:22.980 --> 02:45:31.620] went in and to a JP and filed a criminal complaints against a municipal judge.
[02:45:32.580 --> 02:45:39.620] And the JP refused to issue a warrant. When he told the bailiff to arrest the judge,
[02:45:39.620 --> 02:45:41.700] the judge had the bailiff throw him out of the building.
[02:45:42.900 --> 02:45:48.100] So he went to the next JP and within, what did he say, Brett, 36 minutes?
[02:45:50.580 --> 02:45:54.100] 36 minutes. Yeah, I don't know exactly, but yeah, it was pretty quick.
[02:45:55.380 --> 02:46:00.500] After he was thrown out of this JP refused to issue a warrant and threw him out of the
[02:46:00.500 --> 02:46:06.740] courthouse. He went to the next courthouse and sued him within 36 minutes.
[02:46:08.740 --> 02:46:13.700] And you know, as soon as he left the JP's office, this JP called the one he sued.
[02:46:14.500 --> 02:46:21.540] So the guy knew. This guy came and did that to me and had that suit in his hand.
[02:46:23.220 --> 02:46:28.500] Played me like a cheap fiddle. Nobody likes to be played.
[02:46:30.820 --> 02:46:35.140] If we start doing that to them, they're going to start getting really careful.
[02:46:36.660 --> 02:46:37.860] What do you think, Theresa?
[02:46:39.300 --> 02:46:46.180] Well, I've called in to you guys before and I was in the, when they arrested me,
[02:46:46.980 --> 02:46:55.460] I had a multi-million dollar lawsuit filed against Monterey County. So I've found that.
[02:46:55.460 --> 02:46:57.700] I knew I liked you for some reason.
[02:46:58.420 --> 02:47:01.620] Yeah, I'm the lady that got arrested on the beach. Remember?
[02:47:02.180 --> 02:47:05.620] Oh, okay. You won that one, didn't you?
[02:47:06.580 --> 02:47:16.660] No. He, let's see, despite the fact that I've been reporting all of the rules of
[02:47:16.660 --> 02:47:22.740] discovery that they violated and all this evidence that they destroyed when I had
[02:47:22.740 --> 02:47:29.300] requested it prior to litigation and told them to preserve it. And they destroyed like 70% of it
[02:47:29.300 --> 02:47:34.820] anyway. And I'm also the woman that found that the attorney had been practicing law
[02:47:34.820 --> 02:47:38.740] outside jurisdiction. Is this ringing a bell for you guys?
[02:47:39.380 --> 02:47:41.460] Yes. Oh, I know exactly who you are now.
[02:47:42.900 --> 02:47:52.100] Okay. And then the judge wound up dismissing my case because I didn't comply with discovery.
[02:47:52.980 --> 02:47:58.820] And he never acknowledged all that destruction. But he did wind up.
[02:48:00.820 --> 02:48:06.980] I had three, through my research, I didn't do it. Through my research, I had three attorneys
[02:48:07.780 --> 02:48:14.660] sanctioned. One lost his 20-year partnership in the firm. He's been referred over to the
[02:48:14.660 --> 02:48:19.540] professional standards committee. What is it? Standards committee on professional conduct.
[02:48:20.260 --> 02:48:22.580] And his entire firm was as well.
[02:48:23.780 --> 02:48:30.340] Have you sued him? Lawyers are low-hanging fruit.
[02:48:31.700 --> 02:48:37.060] You're like you when you get in an accident. You're driving along and somebody bashes into
[02:48:37.060 --> 02:48:41.860] you and blames you for it. And you swear on a stack of Bibles it wasn't your fault and
[02:48:41.860 --> 02:48:45.940] your insurance company don't care. They're gonna pay the claim.
[02:48:45.940 --> 02:48:56.420] I had a lawyer tell me that if somebody sues me, I want the insurance company just to pay them,
[02:48:56.420 --> 02:49:03.940] get it off my plate. So I'm going to other things. So you sue the lawyer, the insurance
[02:49:03.940 --> 02:49:08.260] carrier takes over the suit. I think in this case, it's California, it'll be the bar.
[02:49:08.260 --> 02:49:18.500] Okay. And they're likely to write you a check to keep it from costing them more for litigation
[02:49:18.500 --> 02:49:26.500] because their lawyers cost a couple hundred bucks an hour. Yeah. So you sue them for a lot and then
[02:49:27.220 --> 02:49:31.780] offer to settle for a little. They write you a check and you go out and get them to screw
[02:49:31.780 --> 02:49:41.700] something up so you can sue them again. But if you got him sanctioned, suing him is dead bang.
[02:49:43.940 --> 02:49:50.260] Okay. So I want to go back to what Brett was saying before. I think both of you guys were
[02:49:50.260 --> 02:49:58.820] saying before to sue them in small claims. Am I suing the custodian of records for not disclosing
[02:49:58.820 --> 02:50:05.780] those two records or am I suing the deputies because you can't appeal a small claim suit
[02:50:05.780 --> 02:50:12.340] in California? You can't appeal a small claims?
[02:50:13.700 --> 02:50:21.060] No, you can't appeal. How much does it cost to sue them in the county court?
[02:50:21.060 --> 02:50:30.820] I can't remember. There's two different tiers, one for
[02:50:31.540 --> 02:50:38.420] limited civil liability and then for unlimited. And maybe the one is $75 and I don't remember
[02:50:38.420 --> 02:50:44.820] what the other one is. That's not bad. Last time I sued in the county court in Texas,
[02:50:44.820 --> 02:50:53.220] it cost me just over 400 bucks. That was too much. That's why I was doing small claims.
[02:50:56.420 --> 02:51:00.420] Okay, but if I do it in the state court, then I would be able to appeal.
[02:51:00.980 --> 02:51:08.740] Okay. And then I could get the discovery because what happened was they knew that the woman's name
[02:51:08.740 --> 02:51:16.420] was Sophia, the suspect that robbed the store. And as soon as they approached me, they said,
[02:51:16.420 --> 02:51:26.180] is your name Teresa? So they knew that I didn't even have the name of the suspect. And what these
[02:51:26.180 --> 02:51:34.660] adults did, they put in their police report. She immediately became defensive and refused to
[02:51:34.660 --> 02:51:41.300] identify herself. She requested an attorney and wanted to invoke her rights to remain silent
[02:51:41.300 --> 02:51:47.140] while also threatening to sue the Monterey County Sheriff's Office. Bacola boasted she was involved
[02:51:47.140 --> 02:51:51.860] in multiple multimillion dollar lawsuits against various entities of Monterey County.
[02:51:56.340 --> 02:51:58.900] Wow. They just went ahead and put it right in there.
[02:51:58.900 --> 02:52:09.060] Okay. Yes. So yeah, who am I suing? Am I suing? Oh, you said, okay, it's the state court. Okay.
[02:52:09.060 --> 02:52:19.620] The other question I have is, do you have to identify if they are looking for a thief in the area?
[02:52:20.020 --> 02:52:26.980] No. No. But wait, don't get past this part of, you have these other things and they said they know
[02:52:26.980 --> 02:52:31.940] that you have these other things going on because that means that when you do sue them,
[02:52:32.900 --> 02:52:39.300] you get to ring them up not only for this unlawful restraint, false arrest, or whatever California
[02:52:39.300 --> 02:52:49.540] calls it, you get to also ring them up for the witness intimidation. And I think that's
[02:52:50.260 --> 02:52:56.260] the retaliation and obstruction of justice and witness intimidation that's involved with
[02:52:56.980 --> 02:53:04.020] going after you because you're going after them. That's retaliation. Yeah.
[02:53:04.900 --> 02:53:07.540] They're trying to shut you up because you're a potential witness.
[02:53:08.420 --> 02:53:12.580] Yeah. If they're trying to shut you up, that's tampering with witness.
[02:53:12.580 --> 02:53:27.380] Yes. Okay. Yeah, because he also tried a gander at my last name. He said,
[02:53:28.500 --> 02:53:35.700] I mean, they clearly knew who I was. No, pardon me. He didn't. He didn't have my last name correct.
[02:53:35.700 --> 02:53:42.340] He said, are you Teresa Bungalow? And that's not my last name. So clearly,
[02:53:42.980 --> 02:53:48.980] I did not fit the description of the suspect. And I went to talk to the woman that got robbed
[02:53:48.980 --> 02:53:56.740] and she said, you don't look anything like her. She has long frizzy brown hair and a big butt.
[02:53:58.340 --> 02:54:03.380] And she's shorter. If I remember your picture, you did not have a big butt.
[02:54:03.940 --> 02:54:08.340] I don't think I've ever had a picture of my butt online, but.
[02:54:09.780 --> 02:54:15.380] Well, your general structure, you were rather petite, as I recall.
[02:54:15.940 --> 02:54:20.820] Back out of it, Randy. I am squealing in reverse.
[02:54:25.780 --> 02:54:27.860] Open mouth, insert foot.
[02:54:27.860 --> 02:54:36.580] We do not have to identify if they are investigating a crime.
[02:54:39.860 --> 02:54:44.900] No. They can investigate all they want to, but that doesn't mean you are compelled to
[02:54:44.900 --> 02:54:51.380] give them evidence. They can investigate. These guys are doing these audits.
[02:54:52.100 --> 02:54:57.460] The cop says they're investigating. He said, well, I have no duty to help you investigate.
[02:54:57.460 --> 02:55:03.780] So go investigate. Don't bother me. Right. And if he wants to investigate,
[02:55:03.780 --> 02:55:10.660] and let's say he's trying to look inside some box and you're getting in blocking and
[02:55:10.660 --> 02:55:15.860] physically preventing him from looking in that box, now you're obstructing him.
[02:55:17.220 --> 02:55:23.540] But if all you're doing is you're being silent because you refuse to be compelled to give
[02:55:23.540 --> 02:55:28.180] evidence, well, that's not, you're not bothering his investigation.
[02:55:30.260 --> 02:55:35.380] Okay, great. And then they can't threaten me and from, I mean, it was really scary.
[02:55:37.300 --> 02:55:43.780] Of course. And well, you're saying what they can do, and there's what they may and what they
[02:55:43.780 --> 02:55:47.860] do, two different things. But hold that thought. We'll be right back.
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[03:00:25.620 --> 03:00:54.580] Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Brat Fountain Rula Radio on this
[03:00:55.620 --> 03:01:03.300] Friday, the 17th day of January 2025. And we're talking to Teresa in California.
[03:01:04.260 --> 03:01:10.180] And Teresa has been beating him up big deal. You know big time, you know Bob in California,
[03:01:10.180 --> 03:01:11.300] don't you? I do.
[03:01:13.300 --> 03:01:23.540] That guy sent me a picture of his humanoid operation. That is just wrong.
[03:01:24.340 --> 03:01:28.820] I will never get that image scraped off the back of my eyeball.
[03:01:32.580 --> 03:01:36.020] Yeah, I think we went through this on the last time I called in.
[03:01:38.820 --> 03:01:42.340] Okay, yeah, I know who you are now. I remember seeing a picture of you.
[03:01:44.340 --> 03:01:48.580] Yeah, okay, so I want to read you a few of the other things that they wrote in the report.
[03:01:49.140 --> 03:01:56.740] I conducted, these guys are so dumb. I conducted the pat search of her outer clothing
[03:01:56.740 --> 03:02:02.500] and placed Teresa in the backseat of my patrol vehicle. I advised her once more she was not
[03:02:02.500 --> 03:02:08.100] under arrest, but she was still detained until we could determine her identity. She stated she
[03:02:08.100 --> 03:02:13.140] refused to identify herself because she wanted her attorney present. There they go again,
[03:02:13.780 --> 03:02:19.700] admitting that I was invoking my six-minute right, for she believed she was being placed under
[03:02:19.700 --> 03:02:27.940] arrest for suspicion of burglary. Deputy Bradford advised Teresa she was mandated by law to provide
[03:02:27.940 --> 03:02:34.420] her identifying information while being lawfully detained by law enforcement. She still refused to
[03:02:34.420 --> 03:02:40.660] identify herself. Oh, he has, so he's admitted in his statement.
[03:02:44.100 --> 03:02:45.940] That he lied to you.
[03:02:48.740 --> 03:02:54.020] He was, he admitted you were being detained. He didn't, he said lawfully, but that don't mean
[03:02:54.020 --> 03:03:01.540] it was lawfully. Right. Well, it's also interesting that if he's, if he's saying that you've got all
[03:03:01.540 --> 03:03:07.860] these actions against the city and county and whatever, well then clearly he knows your name.
[03:03:07.860 --> 03:03:16.260] Well, it was, no, what wound up happening was before they threw the cuffs on, I said, you know,
[03:03:16.260 --> 03:03:20.580] you guys should probably call somebody to find out who I am first because I already have a
[03:03:20.580 --> 03:03:26.740] multi-million dollar lawsuit against the county. And I think it was Bradford who kind of rolled
[03:03:26.740 --> 03:03:33.940] his eyes and he said something like, yeah, lawsuits, sure. Cause they probably thought I was
[03:03:33.940 --> 03:03:40.820] blown smoke. And I don't, you know, and I, and actually right before I walked away, I said,
[03:03:40.820 --> 03:03:44.980] yeah, I'm going to be in action in the federal court in San Jose on Wednesday morning at 10 o'clock
[03:03:44.980 --> 03:03:50.420] if you guys want to come, because we had a hearing. So no, I wasn't blown, I wasn't blown
[03:03:50.420 --> 03:03:57.780] smoke up their ass. Now it's their turn. He admitted they arrested you.
[03:03:57.780 --> 03:04:06.020] He said it was lawful. That doesn't mean it was lawful. He patted you down.
[03:04:08.340 --> 03:04:10.340] You interpret that as fondling.
[03:04:12.980 --> 03:04:15.700] It is fondling. He had his hands all over my butt.
[03:04:19.860 --> 03:04:22.820] Well, I saw your picture. That was no big deal.
[03:04:23.220 --> 03:04:28.100] I'm recovering, Brett. I'm recovering. Did you just stick the other foot in there?
[03:04:28.100 --> 03:04:35.060] No, no, no. I'm saying she didn't have a big butt. Trying to recover from earlier.
[03:04:39.780 --> 03:04:46.260] She's one of those tiny women like my wife. Those tiny women are mean, mean, mean.
[03:04:46.420 --> 03:04:51.220] Those tiny women are mean, mean, mean. Okay, anyway.
[03:04:53.540 --> 03:04:56.100] So I'm thinking of what you could sue him for.
[03:04:57.780 --> 03:05:00.020] Doesn't matter what you can prove up. Who cares?
[03:05:01.140 --> 03:05:04.100] Well, they already wrote it in their stupid report.
[03:05:06.500 --> 03:05:09.140] So sue him in the small claims court.
[03:05:09.140 --> 03:05:18.820] Let them try to bring up any claims they want to. That's false imprisonment. False imprisonment,
[03:05:19.460 --> 03:05:26.980] no immunity. Or sue him in that county court that costs like 75 bucks.
[03:05:28.260 --> 03:05:33.860] So you've got the ability to appeal it out. So they're not going to want you to do that.
[03:05:34.820 --> 03:05:38.020] So they're likely to write you a check just to get you to leave them alone.
[03:05:38.820 --> 03:05:45.460] Since you have a history of suing them, they'll know you like it. And if you can force them to
[03:05:45.460 --> 03:05:51.700] make a deal, then that looks good for you. Okay. Okay.
[03:05:51.700 --> 03:05:55.380] They can complain about you suing a whole lot if you lose them all.
[03:05:56.740 --> 03:06:01.700] But if you deal them out, then they don't get to complain about it. That means you're outstanding.
[03:06:01.700 --> 03:06:12.420] Well, I just filed a notes of appeal on the other case. And I was just,
[03:06:13.540 --> 03:06:20.020] I want to tell you guys that in the report, they have, I didn't give them any of this.
[03:06:20.020 --> 03:06:28.500] They have my date of birth, my driver's license, my address. They shouldn't, I mean, isn't that a
[03:06:28.500 --> 03:06:32.260] violation of my fourth amendment, right? Because I didn't give them all that stuff.
[03:06:34.980 --> 03:06:42.420] I mean, if they were able to pull it from public records, where did they get that?
[03:06:44.180 --> 03:06:49.540] Well, like I said, I've been taken there twice already, which is the reason I was suing the
[03:06:49.540 --> 03:06:55.220] county. What I mean, did they recognize you and they just remembered that that was you or
[03:06:56.180 --> 03:07:00.420] were you, did you have a car that had a registration, the plates,
[03:07:01.940 --> 03:07:06.260] you look up the plates and it leads back to you? What was the, how did they get
[03:07:07.700 --> 03:07:11.220] from pretending like they need to know who you are, but they already know who you are?
[03:07:12.340 --> 03:07:18.500] Well, it only came out in their report later. And no, I wasn't in my car. I was just walking.
[03:07:19.220 --> 03:07:25.460] And so I assume that they got all of that information from their jail
[03:07:25.460 --> 03:07:28.980] system because I'm in the book there. I have been booked.
[03:07:30.660 --> 03:07:36.580] But is that, I mean, do they have a right to access all those files because I just gave them my name?
[03:07:38.580 --> 03:07:45.060] Yes, the police can. If they're doing an investigation, they can.
[03:07:45.460 --> 03:07:53.140] No, they would have to have a search warrant. And the search warrant would have to be established
[03:07:53.140 --> 03:07:58.180] based on probable cause. There'd have to be a crime. They'd have to go to the judge and say,
[03:07:58.180 --> 03:08:03.620] hey, this lady fits the description, whatever, and convince the judge to sign a search warrant
[03:08:03.620 --> 03:08:07.620] and let them do some, otherwise it's just a phishing expedition.
[03:08:08.180 --> 03:08:13.940] Not to do a once in warrants. They can do a once in warrants without.
[03:08:14.020 --> 03:08:15.220] Yeah, but they didn't have her name.
[03:08:16.900 --> 03:08:18.180] No, I gave them my name.
[03:08:20.260 --> 03:08:23.540] Oh, I thought you said you only gave them your last name.
[03:08:25.140 --> 03:08:30.100] No, my first and last name so that they wouldn't take me to jail and they would
[03:08:30.100 --> 03:08:36.180] take me out of the handcuffs and out of the car. Okay. Well, you need to get clear on what
[03:08:36.260 --> 03:08:45.300] specifically California requires for, is California one of these stop and identify states?
[03:08:45.860 --> 03:08:46.660] No, it is not.
[03:08:47.540 --> 03:08:52.900] Okay. And you need to get clear on what constitutes an identification
[03:08:53.940 --> 03:08:58.820] because they might demand certain things that you don't have to give them. You might,
[03:08:58.820 --> 03:09:04.900] for example, need to only give them your name, address and date of birth, but they'll ask for
[03:09:04.900 --> 03:09:12.180] more, you know, so just get clear on what those items are. But yeah, once they have
[03:09:12.180 --> 03:09:22.340] a little bit, they can look up the rest. Okay. Okay. All right, gentlemen, I think that's it
[03:09:22.340 --> 03:09:26.980] for me. Okay. All right. Well, thanks for calling.
[03:09:28.020 --> 03:09:34.020] Thank you. Keep up the good work. I will. I will. All right. Good night.
[03:09:34.980 --> 03:09:38.340] Okay. Now we're going to Eric in Massachusetts. Hello, Eric.
[03:09:39.460 --> 03:09:42.740] You were going to explain to us the common law.
[03:09:43.620 --> 03:09:47.460] I'll explain it to you. It's not that hard. It really isn't. It does, you know,
[03:09:47.460 --> 03:09:51.460] sort of take a little bit to wrap your head around, but it's not that complicated.
[03:09:51.460 --> 03:09:57.220] So let's start with the patriot. This will only take a few minutes. So let's start with the
[03:09:57.220 --> 03:10:06.180] patriot mythos guys, right? So for example, if you went to an insane asylum, right? And would you
[03:10:06.180 --> 03:10:11.620] expect to be able to explain the lot, logically explain what these people thought? Of course not
[03:10:11.620 --> 03:10:17.780] because they're insane. Now, patriot mythos people are, as all three of us would agree,
[03:10:17.780 --> 03:10:23.860] they're undereducated. They don't know what they're talking about. So we can't expect them
[03:10:23.860 --> 03:10:30.500] to understand what common law is. We can't expect them to have a grasp of the law system at all.
[03:10:30.500 --> 03:10:34.820] So what these people are doing, which we're all sort of guilty of at some point,
[03:10:35.940 --> 03:10:43.060] is we're trying to grasp a magic wand, a magic word that will open up the gate
[03:10:43.700 --> 03:10:50.500] to the law that we think we deserve, right? Right, right. It's the, this is how they get you.
[03:10:51.460 --> 03:10:56.820] If you just say this or just hold your tongue right, sign at an angle. Now they can't get you.
[03:10:58.100 --> 03:11:03.940] Right. Exactly. Because we, in sort of the common law, common sense, we think, well,
[03:11:03.940 --> 03:11:08.820] this is the way it's supposed to be. So there's this magic wand. Now, Randy, have you ever seen
[03:11:08.820 --> 03:11:16.260] the movie Fantasia? Are you a little bit older than that movie? In that movie, in that movie,
[03:11:16.820 --> 03:11:22.340] Mickey Mouse picks up the magic wand, but that didn't make him a magician, did it?
[03:11:23.060 --> 03:11:30.500] What did it do? It caused a lot of problems, a big giant mess until the actual magician came along
[03:11:30.500 --> 03:11:36.260] and had to unwind everything that Mickey Mouse was doing. So all these Patriot mythos guys,
[03:11:36.260 --> 03:11:42.340] they pick up the magic wand and create a big giant problem. So everything that they do,
[03:11:42.980 --> 03:11:48.180] you can't make it logical and you can't rationalize it and you just have to discount it
[03:11:48.180 --> 03:11:51.540] because they're looking for the magic wand. All right. So that's the Patriot mythos.
[03:11:52.820 --> 03:11:58.980] If you read through common, through a lot of stuff, you see common law, they use the term
[03:11:58.980 --> 03:12:07.860] common law. Common law is both sort of logic, what we as Western society Christians, Christian based
[03:12:07.860 --> 03:12:17.380] law system, as this makes sense to us, and what is case law. So case law is common law, but not
[03:12:17.380 --> 03:12:25.460] all common law is necessarily case law. You can still sort of plead something as common law,
[03:12:25.460 --> 03:12:32.820] but as your inclination is to believe, it's not going to be easy because you're in the realm of
[03:12:33.780 --> 03:12:43.460] equity. The courts, especially the higher courts, will look at things sort of in an equitable manner,
[03:12:43.460 --> 03:12:53.540] which is not hard facts. There's a little bit of room there. And Alexis, our friend Alexis,
[03:12:53.540 --> 03:12:59.140] he found a case, which is probably a good example. I'm assuming it exists. I didn't see it myself.
[03:12:59.220 --> 03:13:06.260] So Dr. Kevorkian. So he went up in trial three times in Michigan. The first two times,
[03:13:06.260 --> 03:13:12.180] they tried to take him, as I understand it, as I remember, they tried to take him under law.
[03:13:13.380 --> 03:13:19.540] But there is no law. There was no law for assisted suicide. He's not doing the work.
[03:13:20.500 --> 03:13:26.260] He's just letting the other guy do the work. But the Michigan attorney general, supposedly,
[03:13:26.900 --> 03:13:32.820] brought him a third time under common law. And what would that make? What would that be?
[03:13:32.820 --> 03:13:38.180] The common law would be, well, you help somebody kill somebody. You help somebody kill themselves.
[03:13:39.540 --> 03:13:45.060] That's common law. You can't help somebody kill themselves. Does that make sense?
[03:13:46.500 --> 03:13:52.180] No, I'm more confused now than when you started. No, not at all.
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[03:16:48.180 --> 03:16:53.300] Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, beautiful radio. And it may be Eric,
[03:16:53.300 --> 03:17:00.500] you're talking faster than I can listen. Luckily, we record the program so you can listen to it a
[03:17:00.500 --> 03:17:13.060] bunch of times. I'll give you another one. Tort law, I'm guessing, is essentially common law
[03:17:13.060 --> 03:17:18.820] because there's no laws that say you can't slander somebody, right? I could be wrong,
[03:17:18.820 --> 03:17:24.500] but a lot of- Yeah, there are. Well, there's not laws that say you can't slander. There are
[03:17:24.500 --> 03:17:32.420] laws that say that if you do slander, you are subject to being- Yeah, the flandery has a cause
[03:17:32.420 --> 03:17:42.980] of action. Right, but again, correct me. I haven't researched it fully, but that's all from case law
[03:17:43.060 --> 03:17:52.340] law, right? There's not- Yes, yes. As a matter of fact, it is. Yes. I don't know. I think it
[03:17:52.340 --> 03:17:58.820] goes way back before that too, for America, straight out of the Bible. Slander is a cause
[03:17:58.820 --> 03:18:09.700] of action. So it's from the common law, but it has been codified into a cause of action.
[03:18:10.660 --> 03:18:17.460] Exactly. Right. But all of the common law has been, for the most part, the common law has been
[03:18:17.460 --> 03:18:24.020] codified into either civil causes of action or criminal statutes.
[03:18:27.140 --> 03:18:33.940] Okay. At least my understanding of it. Yeah, criminal causes of action would be crimes,
[03:18:33.940 --> 03:18:47.620] so criminal offenses. But there's lots of torts that I think are strictly from case law. And again,
[03:18:47.620 --> 03:18:55.620] I could be wrong, but- Yeah, I'm sure the truth there are. Well, I think when you get into some
[03:18:55.620 --> 03:19:02.980] of the newer things, then you'll find that to be more and more true. Because as the society develops
[03:19:02.980 --> 03:19:11.220] more, then it needs more things like, yeah, they violated, there was a copyright infringement.
[03:19:11.860 --> 03:19:19.060] They stepped on my trademark or something. And then those start to become more and more distant
[03:19:19.060 --> 03:19:25.620] from common law. People treat each other how you want to be treated. It starts to become more
[03:19:25.620 --> 03:19:33.460] distant from what is innately the right and wrong way to be to each other.
[03:19:35.780 --> 03:19:40.660] That's philosophically what common law is. I'm more interested in common law
[03:19:41.460 --> 03:19:48.500] as in terms of how it's used. And looked at a court case where the judge said they couldn't touch
[03:19:48.500 --> 03:19:55.940] this case because it was cited in a common law court. What is a common law court? Convene one.
[03:19:55.940 --> 03:20:03.300] What are the rules? What are the structures? I think Alex is correct, and you have to look at
[03:20:03.300 --> 03:20:10.740] black law. But from what I've seen a lot of times when the courts are referencing common law,
[03:20:11.460 --> 03:20:15.300] they're referencing case law. And I made a post.
[03:20:15.300 --> 03:20:21.060] I don't think so. I think they're referencing principles.
[03:20:21.060 --> 03:20:33.540] The courts, they want us to think that their case law is common law. It's not.
[03:20:33.700 --> 03:20:43.700] But what common law, in case law, is case law. Case law is judicial decisions based on applications
[03:20:43.700 --> 03:20:51.620] of statutory law. Statutory law is the sovereign's law, not the common law. They made that distinct,
[03:20:51.700 --> 03:21:03.220] common law. They made that distinct, what do you call it, Brett? Agnacarta libertatum made that
[03:21:03.220 --> 03:21:13.380] distinction that if the sovereign issued an order or edict and it was not compatible with
[03:21:13.380 --> 03:21:20.340] the common law, the magistrates were forbidden to enforce sovereign's edict. So the common law
[03:21:20.340 --> 03:21:33.460] was different. Rather, our statutory law is a problem with words. It is the sovereign law,
[03:21:33.460 --> 03:21:39.620] but we're the sovereign. So just for the sovereign, we're the common people.
[03:21:40.740 --> 03:21:47.620] It's our law. It's not like we have a king who can issue ediction. So
[03:21:47.620 --> 03:22:00.100] all law, I look at it as common law. It's just our legislature has taken common law and defined it,
[03:22:01.860 --> 03:22:02.580] specified it.
[03:22:02.580 --> 03:22:09.620] Common law is defined as unwritten law. I think Alex said that, and I agree with that.
[03:22:09.620 --> 03:22:15.140] It's unwritten law is not law. That's a contradiction of terms.
[03:22:16.100 --> 03:22:19.460] It's unstated. There's no statute to it.
[03:22:21.780 --> 03:22:28.740] And it has no, it's not law, it's custom. And that's what Agnacarta said it was.
[03:22:30.100 --> 03:22:30.600] Okay.
[03:22:33.060 --> 03:22:36.020] It was the customs of people. That was the common law.
[03:22:36.020 --> 03:22:45.220] But all the little we have done as the commoners and the sovereign is we took that common law
[03:22:45.860 --> 03:22:51.860] and ask our legislators and legislators and our judges,
[03:22:53.220 --> 03:22:56.180] legislatures first to take this common law.
[03:22:57.140 --> 03:23:02.980] Murder was a common law crime. Take that crime and define it, specify it.
[03:23:03.940 --> 03:23:08.580] So we can be more accurate in wielding the common law.
[03:23:09.940 --> 03:23:15.780] But at this point, these guys come in and they're going to use a common law court.
[03:23:16.740 --> 03:23:22.340] Okay, just exactly how do you convene a common law court?
[03:23:23.380 --> 03:23:24.580] Right, great question.
[03:23:26.340 --> 03:23:28.420] This is what we've always been looking for.
[03:23:28.420 --> 03:23:32.820] Then I get this song and dance and seltzer down your pants.
[03:23:34.020 --> 03:23:37.060] Again, I think you're trying to rationalize uneducated people's
[03:23:37.060 --> 03:23:42.020] opinion on our common law court. 800 years ago might have been a jury.
[03:23:42.740 --> 03:23:48.180] And that's what they considered a common law court, which is kind of what Alex said.
[03:23:49.460 --> 03:23:50.260] So I can see.
[03:23:50.260 --> 03:23:55.940] Yeah. Well, the way I explained it, I did some research on it recently,
[03:23:56.260 --> 03:24:04.260] is like the older cultures, when someone did something wrong, they brought up people.
[03:24:05.780 --> 03:24:13.300] And they made their arguments before the people and the people ruled. They decided what to do.
[03:24:14.500 --> 03:24:20.340] If it was dunking the witch 50 times or burning them at the stake or whatever,
[03:24:21.300 --> 03:24:23.380] people decided it was the common law.
[03:24:24.900 --> 03:24:32.260] But as we became more sophisticated, then we had more people doing bad things and
[03:24:32.820 --> 03:24:37.380] couldn't get the whole community together all at once. So we started picking groups
[03:24:38.180 --> 03:24:47.540] of people from the common people, your peers. And that turned into a jury of our peers.
[03:24:48.260 --> 03:24:51.620] Here, I have a, go ahead.
[03:24:51.620 --> 03:24:57.620] If anything is common law, that's it. Thomas Jefferson said,
[03:24:58.420 --> 03:25:04.580] best remedy to bad law is a jury who cannot enforce it. Judges want to say,
[03:25:06.020 --> 03:25:10.580] jury determines the facts, judge determines the law.
[03:25:10.580 --> 03:25:14.580] Horse manure, jury determines both of them.
[03:25:16.260 --> 03:25:23.220] They, the judges want to take control of the law, take it away from the common law.
[03:25:23.220 --> 03:25:30.980] And common law is still the jury. And it's still in law, the jury determines the facts and the law.
[03:25:33.940 --> 03:25:38.660] Judges are trying to take that, and that's one of the fights I wanna get to, but just not yet.
[03:25:38.660 --> 03:25:41.940] So if we have common law, it's the jury's.
[03:25:44.500 --> 03:25:45.220] Don't have any-
[03:25:45.220 --> 03:25:54.740] Let's see here about this, the Black's law dictionary that we were trying to hear about earlier
[03:25:55.460 --> 03:26:02.340] and the cases that support this definition. There's a piece of it here that looks particularly
[03:26:02.340 --> 03:26:11.540] salient. It says, as distinguished from law created by the enactment of legislatures,
[03:26:13.220 --> 03:26:23.300] the common law, common please law, comprises the body of those principles and rules of action
[03:26:24.260 --> 03:26:28.020] relating to the government and security of persons and property,
[03:26:28.980 --> 03:26:37.300] which derive their authority solely from usages and customs of immemorial antiquity,
[03:26:38.740 --> 03:26:44.180] or from the judgments and decrees of courts recognizing, affirming, and enforcing such
[03:26:44.740 --> 03:26:55.380] usages and customs. Now that, to me, that I think encapsulates it very well,
[03:26:55.380 --> 03:26:57.380] and it references a whole string of-
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[03:30:28.660 --> 03:30:43.140] Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio. We're talking
[03:30:43.140 --> 03:30:48.820] to Eric in Massachusetts, and I've kind of come to the conclusion that we can't figure out what
[03:30:48.820 --> 03:30:57.220] common law really is. But I'm also to the conclusion that we don't have any kind of definition of a
[03:30:57.220 --> 03:31:05.060] common law court. So we're how to invoke one or how to convert one that you've been dragged into,
[03:31:05.060 --> 03:31:09.940] and people say, oh, well, once you've been dragged in there, you just say this and it converts it to
[03:31:09.940 --> 03:31:23.060] a common law court. I don't see where that can happen. Okay, anything else, Eric? Yeah, I have
[03:31:23.060 --> 03:31:27.380] a couple of simple questions. Quick, where does common law court ever get mentioned anywhere?
[03:31:27.380 --> 03:31:36.420] Like where is it? It's not in Article 1 court, Article 3 court, Marine court or whatever that is.
[03:31:37.620 --> 03:31:43.220] Maritime, yeah. Maritime court. I don't know. Where's the common law court mentioned anywhere?
[03:31:44.340 --> 03:31:50.980] Good point. Exactly. All right, so my simple question. This is a yes or no question. Can you
[03:31:50.980 --> 03:31:57.700] still do, if you have a case going on, can you still do a FOIA or whatever it is at the state level
[03:31:58.340 --> 03:32:06.740] or do you only have to do discovery? No. Once you file a case, you no longer have access
[03:32:06.740 --> 03:32:12.580] to open records, at least it's that way in Texas. Some open records will be available to you and
[03:32:12.580 --> 03:32:20.100] others won't. You won't have access to open records that would be records that would be
[03:32:20.100 --> 03:32:26.500] subject to discovery. Exactly. So most of the things that you would think of that are going
[03:32:26.500 --> 03:32:32.420] to be exculpatory evidence, that's going to be tied up in your specific case and that's
[03:32:32.420 --> 03:32:37.220] actually that's available via discovery and so then it's not available via public records request.
[03:32:38.500 --> 03:32:47.300] However, your buddy, your sister-in-law, your neighbor can make those public records requests
[03:32:47.620 --> 03:32:53.380] and you can also do those same requests via discovery.
[03:32:54.180 --> 03:32:59.860] So can I say there's more than one way to skin a cat or would that be insensitive?
[03:33:02.900 --> 03:33:05.460] It's only an expression. Hopefully you're not actually skinning a cat.
[03:33:06.420 --> 03:33:11.940] Okay, so I won't. I'll say there's more than one way to skin a dog. Okay.
[03:33:12.900 --> 03:33:19.300] Next question, simple question. Here's an interesting one. So I filed a lawsuit against
[03:33:19.300 --> 03:33:24.980] the Board of Health in their personal capacity because they were operating outside of scope,
[03:33:24.980 --> 03:33:32.580] but the city keeps involving itself, keeps financially defending using their attorneys
[03:33:32.580 --> 03:33:41.380] to defend this Board of Health and I motioned the court to not allow that and they denied
[03:33:41.380 --> 03:33:46.740] my motion and that lawyers keep defending, but I was thinking, well, wait a minute,
[03:33:46.740 --> 03:33:53.380] that's an interesting way to let's say you don't file two months in advance to file a lawsuit
[03:33:53.380 --> 03:34:03.860] against somebody, a municipality or government or whatever, and if the city is involving itself,
[03:34:04.820 --> 03:34:11.060] well, then I don't have to give them notice, right? I mean, basically they've involved themselves,
[03:34:11.060 --> 03:34:16.740] so now they're already kind of an interesting little trick.
[03:34:18.740 --> 03:34:29.140] So then let's say I went against the board, right? Does the town have to pay me?
[03:34:31.780 --> 03:34:37.540] Are you talking about adding the board as an entity, a fictional entity of itself as its own
[03:34:37.540 --> 03:34:44.100] defendant? Well, you know, so I basically sued the Board of Health and I named every individual
[03:34:44.100 --> 03:34:49.460] and I named them, I said, I'm suing these people in their individual capacity. They operated outside
[03:34:49.460 --> 03:34:56.020] of scope. Right, because they're criminals. Right. But the town is still defending them,
[03:34:56.020 --> 03:35:06.340] the town is still utilizing their lawyers and their money and the judge didn't allow,
[03:35:06.340 --> 03:35:14.740] this allowed me to exclude their lawyers. So that is an issue that you need to take before
[03:35:14.740 --> 03:35:26.100] another judge. What I would do is disqualify that judge. He's either incompetent or he's insane or
[03:35:26.100 --> 03:35:31.140] he's intentionally criminal. I don't care which he's not, he can't sit on this case. He needs to
[03:35:31.140 --> 03:35:39.300] get thumped off. And I want to take this matter of his ruling that the public has to pay for
[03:35:40.740 --> 03:35:46.260] the judge's buddy to get defense. That can come out of the public coffers.
[03:35:47.700 --> 03:35:54.980] No. So take that ruling of him throwing your motion to strike pleadings, take that ruling
[03:35:54.980 --> 03:36:02.020] and make an interlocutory appeal. You petition the appellate court for an interlocutory order
[03:36:02.020 --> 03:36:14.580] to that effect. Yeah. Okay. But, but so, which I agree with, but does that now put the,
[03:36:14.580 --> 03:36:21.460] the city on the hook? So let's say I do win the case. Does the town have to pay for that?
[03:36:21.460 --> 03:36:28.980] Like I don't. No, I don't think so because the town is not properly a defendant.
[03:36:29.780 --> 03:36:35.140] The town's money is being sucked up inappropriately to pay for these criminals
[03:36:36.260 --> 03:36:42.420] to have some legal defense. But that doesn't mean that the town is properly named and properly
[03:36:43.300 --> 03:36:51.140] charged with anything. You don't have a count in your causes of action. You don't have a count
[03:36:51.140 --> 03:36:59.940] that says that the city as an entity did this. Here's the list of facts that go to essential
[03:36:59.940 --> 03:37:07.460] elements for some cause of action that the city did. You don't have that. So no, the city is not
[03:37:08.340 --> 03:37:15.140] on the hook. Okay. But you think I should take it to the appeals court, which is interesting.
[03:37:15.620 --> 03:37:21.540] So as I'm, as I'm doing this. Yeah. And I would also, not just that, I would make sure that in
[03:37:21.540 --> 03:37:28.340] the trial court, you file an exception, raise an exception to the judicial error. So that's,
[03:37:28.340 --> 03:37:33.220] you're preserving it as best you can in the trial court. And you're petitioning the appellate court
[03:37:33.220 --> 03:37:41.620] to review and reverse it. You could also at the same time, in parallel track, you could be filing
[03:37:41.620 --> 03:37:52.340] a judicial misconduct complaint because this judge allows some publicly paid attorney to defend
[03:37:53.140 --> 03:38:00.660] criminals of his choosing. He wouldn't do that if it was you. He wouldn't hire the city attorneys
[03:38:00.660 --> 03:38:04.820] to be your defenders. Yeah.
[03:38:10.900 --> 03:38:18.820] So what, what's interesting is just real quick. What's interesting is the town solicitor, the
[03:38:18.820 --> 03:38:27.700] lawyer explained in part of his motion and his reply motion or opposition motion that the board
[03:38:27.700 --> 03:38:34.420] of health is actually not a board of health and is operating somehow differently than the state
[03:38:34.420 --> 03:38:48.260] law allows. Okay. Like based on ordinances. So they, they, they wrote ordinances that allow this,
[03:38:48.260 --> 03:38:55.380] which, you know, we have a home rule and we have a strong, a very strong sort of home rule. So
[03:38:55.380 --> 03:39:02.500] all legislature cannot be overwritten by state ordinance. So our home rule, I guess our home rule
[03:39:02.500 --> 03:39:08.580] is weak. It's not strong. So they can't do that. And I'm like, I can't believe this guy just sent
[03:39:08.580 --> 03:39:14.660] this to me, which, you know, only supports that these people are operating outside of the code
[03:39:14.660 --> 03:39:18.100] because they're, they're not even a board of health. So call themselves a board of health,
[03:39:18.100 --> 03:39:23.060] but they're not a board of health. So I'm glad I asked that question because you brought a whole
[03:39:23.060 --> 03:39:29.140] new dimension to it that I didn't even think about. So, so if you wish to move on, you can.
[03:39:30.420 --> 03:39:39.860] Oh, cool. I'm glad that was helpful. You have someone else waiting. Yes, we do. Okay. I'll let
[03:39:39.860 --> 03:39:47.620] you go on then. Thank you so much. All right. Thanks for calling Eric. Yep. All right. And next up
[03:39:48.580 --> 03:39:53.620] we've got Steve in Georgia. Good evening, Steve. What's on your mind?
[03:39:55.220 --> 03:40:01.380] Hey, good evening, guys. Hey, did you guys get a chance to take notice and review
[03:40:02.100 --> 03:40:04.980] of that case law, Betterman versus Montana?
[03:40:07.300 --> 03:40:07.800] No.
[03:40:10.180 --> 03:40:10.900] No.
[03:40:10.900 --> 03:40:12.740] Did we have a chance to do a what?
[03:40:12.740 --> 03:40:18.340] A, a citizen. I don't remember seeing your email
[03:40:21.460 --> 03:40:26.500] or I would have looked at it, but I don't remember seeing anything from here.
[03:40:28.740 --> 03:40:31.300] That doesn't mean I didn't. They couldn't, we could have missed it.
[03:40:35.380 --> 03:40:39.300] Yeah, it's nice. It came to you guys two weeks ago over the air.
[03:40:39.300 --> 03:40:42.500] Is that a reading assignment?
[03:40:45.700 --> 03:40:49.460] No, it wasn't an email. Okay. What was it? Betterman?
[03:40:51.220 --> 03:40:58.340] Yeah. Betterman versus Montana. Oh, Betterman. Okay. Yeah. Oh, 578 U.S.
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[03:43:51.140 --> 03:44:17.540] Okay, we are back. This is the Rule of Law Radio, Randy Kelton. I'm Brett Fountains,
[03:44:17.620 --> 03:44:25.940] and we are talking with Steve in Georgia. All right, Steve, you had just mentioned,
[03:44:25.940 --> 03:44:32.980] right before we went to the sponsors, you had mentioned a reference to a case, Betterman
[03:44:33.620 --> 03:44:42.820] versus Montana. I don't know if this is the one you're talking about. I found a 578 US 437
[03:44:43.700 --> 03:44:50.820] in 2016 that's talking about Speedy Trial. Is that what you had on your mind?
[03:44:52.100 --> 03:44:57.060] Yes, that's the one I was referring to, United States Constitutional right to a Speedy Trial.
[03:44:58.660 --> 03:45:01.620] Yes. Well, what's your question about that?
[03:45:03.780 --> 03:45:05.300] Did you guys ever review it?
[03:45:07.460 --> 03:45:12.500] Well, no, I haven't until just now. When we went to sponsors, I just kind of skimmed through it
[03:45:13.220 --> 03:45:19.620] right now. Well, as I bring it to everybody's attention, if they're ever
[03:45:19.620 --> 03:45:24.180] arrested again, I mean, I think you guys have been arrested, I'm sure a few others,
[03:45:25.620 --> 03:45:31.620] that in a criminal proceeding, which under Betterman, this Sixth Amendment United States
[03:45:31.620 --> 03:45:38.900] Constitutional right, it shields the accused upon an arrest or a formal accusation before
[03:45:38.900 --> 03:45:48.580] a conviction, meaning it's already 30 days. And if you're arrested, that means the moving party,
[03:45:48.580 --> 03:45:53.860] which would be the cop that arrests you and the prosecutor, on their misdemeanor, they have to
[03:45:53.860 --> 03:46:00.180] bring you, you have a right to a trial within 30 days and a felony, it would be 70 days
[03:46:00.740 --> 03:46:07.300] under Betterman. And it's a United States Supreme Court case that protects the accused,
[03:46:07.300 --> 03:46:17.940] the opinion, it was unanimous, it was written by Ginsburg, and Thomas and Alito agreed. So it was
[03:46:17.940 --> 03:46:27.300] a unanimous decision that it will trump Barker versus Wingo if a prosecutor tries to use Barker
[03:46:27.300 --> 03:46:34.660] versus Wingo where the accused has to prove, no, it's already asserted there for you. And once the
[03:46:34.660 --> 03:46:40.100] cop puts your hands on you and he arrests you without going to the state first, would it be
[03:46:40.100 --> 03:46:47.540] the prosecutor to ask him about preferring charges? Well, that triggered the arrest,
[03:46:47.540 --> 03:46:52.500] meaning the clock starts ticking right there. The cop put his hands on you, he arrested you,
[03:46:53.060 --> 03:47:00.420] put you in jail, wherever picked up off a warrant. Well, they got 30 days to bring you before
[03:47:00.420 --> 03:47:06.020] an impartial jury trial. And when they don't, they violate it. And under Betterman,
[03:47:06.660 --> 03:47:11.860] violation of the United States Constitution right to the Sixth Amendment Speedy Trial Clause
[03:47:12.580 --> 03:47:20.580] is dismissal of the charges. Everybody should have that written down if they're ever falsely arrested
[03:47:20.580 --> 03:47:27.300] or one of the authorities put their hands on you and falsely arrest you. You don't let them
[03:47:27.940 --> 03:47:32.420] take months and months like they normally do before they take...
[03:47:32.420 --> 03:47:38.500] Yeah, they do normally try that. That's handy. That's good because it specifies days here.
[03:47:38.500 --> 03:47:44.580] And this is federal, so that's pretty cool. It specifies 30 days between arrest and indictment.
[03:47:45.700 --> 03:47:51.620] And of course, you know, when they're trying to have, a lot of times they're wanting to go ahead
[03:47:51.620 --> 03:47:55.140] and skip the indictment and just jump to the part where you say you're guilty of something.
[03:47:56.100 --> 03:48:04.900] But yeah, once 30 days passes, then that time's up. That's their chance. That's it.
[03:48:06.420 --> 03:48:14.660] Right. That's just misdemeanors. The felonies is 70 days. And this is only for criminal proceedings,
[03:48:14.660 --> 03:48:20.260] and you can't be convicted. I mean, you have to be not convicted of it yet for it to apply.
[03:48:21.060 --> 03:48:27.060] Under Betteman, he pled guilty because he bail jumped and failed to appear.
[03:48:28.100 --> 03:48:35.620] So it did apply for him, but it will apply for a person that hasn't been convicted but arrested.
[03:48:35.620 --> 03:48:42.020] So that triggers the start. It starts ticking. That 30 days, if it's a misdemeanor,
[03:48:42.020 --> 03:48:46.980] they got to bring you before an impartial jury trial. And if they don't,
[03:48:47.940 --> 03:48:53.780] under that 90th State Supreme Court case, Justice Ginsburg delivered,
[03:48:54.740 --> 03:49:02.580] and she also goes on with an excellent opinion on this. If I can read some, it says, let's see.
[03:49:07.060 --> 03:49:13.380] Ultimately found to be innocent, the major evils protected against the speedy trial guarantees
[03:49:13.380 --> 03:49:19.140] we observe. Arrest is a public act that may seriously interfere with the defendant's liberty,
[03:49:19.140 --> 03:49:25.220] whether he is free on bail or not, and that may disrupt his employment, drain his financial
[03:49:25.220 --> 03:49:32.420] resources, curtail his associations, subject him to public ability, and create anxiety in him,
[03:49:32.420 --> 03:49:38.420] his family, and his friends. We acknowledge in Marion that even a pre-arrest, a stage at
[03:49:38.420 --> 03:49:45.060] which the right to a speedy trial does not arise, the passage of time may impair memories, cause
[03:49:45.060 --> 03:49:50.580] evidence to be lost, deprive the defendant of witnesses, and otherwise interfere with his
[03:49:50.580 --> 03:49:58.180] ability to defend himself. So, nevertheless, this possibility of presence at trial is not
[03:49:58.180 --> 03:50:04.820] itself sufficient reason to wrench the Sixth Amendment from its proper arrest or charge
[03:50:04.820 --> 03:50:12.420] triggered. So, she wrote, Justice Ginsburg, I mean, that is a real good case law, and she
[03:50:12.420 --> 03:50:23.380] detects the accused. Yeah, I think you're right. That is pretty strong. Yeah, so if they ever try
[03:50:23.380 --> 03:50:30.100] to bring up Boxer versus Wingo, that you got to prove, you don't have to prove nothing on
[03:50:30.100 --> 03:50:35.300] the betterment. So, I'll register it for you and cite that case law. Oh, wait a minute.
[03:50:36.580 --> 03:50:41.620] Betterment after Wingo? So, does it distinguish Wingo?
[03:50:43.700 --> 03:50:50.180] No. I don't see a mention of Wingo. This is 2016, and I don't see a mention of Wingo.
[03:50:51.620 --> 03:50:55.140] That would still have the effect of distinguishing it.
[03:50:55.140 --> 03:51:02.180] Oh, yes, it does mention Barker v. Wingo. Good. Okay, where it's going, I must have missed that.
[03:51:04.820 --> 03:51:16.500] Yeah. Where it says it, let's see, it's, that's at 442 is where it says that.
[03:51:17.060 --> 03:51:26.100] Yeah, but this is what I'm saying. It trumps Wingo, meaning Wingo under Barker v. Wingo,
[03:51:27.140 --> 03:51:30.740] it wants the accused to prove how he was dilated.
[03:51:32.420 --> 03:51:43.380] That was the objection I had to it, that the officials sworn his oath he would do this thing.
[03:51:44.180 --> 03:51:50.660] He didn't swear on his oath he would do this thing only if I demanded that he do this thing.
[03:51:51.700 --> 03:51:55.380] Yeah. He swore on his oath as a condition of the contract.
[03:51:55.380 --> 03:52:02.180] Yeah, that's what he's going to do. Yeah, Barker v. Wingo was in 1972,
[03:52:03.380 --> 03:52:08.100] and this betterment v. Montana is in 2016.
[03:52:08.100 --> 03:52:15.300] So that's nice and recent. Yeah, and it mentions Barker v. Wingo,
[03:52:15.300 --> 03:52:17.060] so they're taking that into account.
[03:52:20.180 --> 03:52:26.580] And it trumps it. I mean, it trumps Barker v. Wingo. So you don't have to prove it. It's already
[03:52:26.580 --> 03:52:32.020] there. It's been asserted for you. And you just make sure when they violate you like that,
[03:52:32.100 --> 03:52:38.660] I mean, the prosecutor in the state gets to put you through a bunch of mental anguish and anxiety.
[03:52:38.660 --> 03:52:43.860] It takes them six, seven months to get you to trial. Well, that's a deprivation right there.
[03:52:43.860 --> 03:52:50.260] And that's what Justice Greenberg was saying. So you will win. Even if the crooked courts
[03:52:50.260 --> 03:52:54.100] convict you, you still would probably win on appeal to take it to the U.S. Supreme Court.
[03:52:54.100 --> 03:53:00.820] They've already spoken, and it was a humane decision. Yeah, and then here's a reflection
[03:53:00.820 --> 03:53:07.380] back to common law, like we were talking about earlier. So many things have come up about that
[03:53:07.380 --> 03:53:11.700] tonight. But it says, our reading, this is in Betterman, our reading comports with the
[03:53:11.700 --> 03:53:18.900] historical understanding. The Speedy Trial right has its roots at the very foundation of our English
[03:53:18.900 --> 03:53:24.820] law heritage. Its first articulation in modern jurisprudence appears to have been made in Magna
[03:53:24.820 --> 03:53:31.060] Carta. And then they cite a couple of cases and say, regarding the framers comprehension of the
[03:53:31.060 --> 03:53:37.460] right, as it existed at the founding, we've cited Sir Edward Coke's Institute of the Laws of England.
[03:53:39.380 --> 03:53:42.580] And Coke wrote that the innocent shall not be worn and wasted
[03:53:43.300 --> 03:53:50.900] by long imprisonment, but speedily come to trial. So that's kind of cool. There's a reference in
[03:53:50.900 --> 03:53:54.820] there in this Betterman case, a reference to some common law principles.
[03:53:56.980 --> 03:54:02.740] Yeah, see the state, unfortunately, that's the cops go out there and arrest people. I mean,
[03:54:02.740 --> 03:54:07.220] if they witness a crime, that's one thing. They witnessed it, they got person firsthand knowledge.
[03:54:07.220 --> 03:54:08.660] Exactly. That's different.
[03:54:08.660 --> 03:54:12.900] If they're just abusing people and arrest them because they want to arrest them,
[03:54:12.900 --> 03:54:18.100] well, if the prosecutor ain't ready because they got about 20,000 cases, well, that's their problem.
[03:54:18.260 --> 03:54:23.380] Don't let your cops go out there and commit UPL, unpracticed law, because they're not
[03:54:23.380 --> 03:54:30.180] state licensed attorney. And that's what the cops do. And therefore there's a backlog in the system
[03:54:30.180 --> 03:54:37.060] where the poor accuser who's innocent or could be innocent, he's got to wait seven, eight months
[03:54:37.620 --> 03:54:42.020] for the prosecution to get ready. No, that damages that person. I mean, evidence-
[03:54:42.020 --> 03:54:48.420] Yeah. And make him attend like half a dozen, take off work to go to the courthouse half
[03:54:48.420 --> 03:54:54.100] a dozen times. Yeah. And God forbid it's something about his driver's license,
[03:54:54.100 --> 03:54:57.780] because then he can't drive it and he has to take Uber or get somebody else to drive him there.
[03:55:00.100 --> 03:55:03.140] Do you have to talk about wearing out his resources? That's right.
[03:55:04.660 --> 03:55:10.340] So thanks to the United States Supreme Court Justice Ginsburg and its unanimous decision,
[03:55:10.980 --> 03:55:14.180] we got a protection here. So I'm just letting everybody know out here,
[03:55:15.620 --> 03:55:19.460] when they put their hands on you and call to arrest you, you hold them to betterment versus
[03:55:19.460 --> 03:55:25.140] Montana. They got 30 days to amnesty and not violate that fifth amendment.
[03:55:25.860 --> 03:55:29.460] Yeah, very good. I'm glad you called in. You waited a long time to get on,
[03:55:31.060 --> 03:55:34.740] see you were on the board for a good long while and you were patient. I appreciate you bringing
[03:55:34.740 --> 03:55:39.620] that up to us tonight. I think that can be helpful to a lot of people. Well, all right,
[03:55:39.620 --> 03:55:44.340] we are to the end of the evening. It's been a really good one. I'm glad everybody was able
[03:55:44.340 --> 03:55:49.140] to call in and we'll talk to you again next week. Good night.