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[00:00.000 --> 00:05.440]  The Bill of Rights contains the first 10 amendments of our Constitution.
[00:05.440 --> 00:09.400]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[00:09.400 --> 00:10.880]  Our liberty depends on it.
[00:10.880 --> 00:14.800]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember
[00:14.800 --> 00:16.920]  your First Amendment rights.
[00:16.920 --> 00:18.520]  Privacy is under attack.
[00:18.520 --> 00:22.120]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[00:22.120 --> 00:26.880]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[00:26.880 --> 00:31.960]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
[00:31.960 --> 00:34.640]  Privacy, it's worth hanging on to.
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[00:44.800 --> 00:47.760]  Spar, it's what fighters do.
[00:47.760 --> 00:50.800]  It's also how I remember the five guarantees of the First Amendment.
[00:50.800 --> 00:54.440]  If you plan to take away my rights, I'm going to spar with you.
[00:54.440 --> 01:01.520]  Spar with an extra P, S for speech, P for press, another P for petition, A for assembly,
[01:01.520 --> 01:02.880]  and R for religion.
[01:02.880 --> 01:06.960]  Most Americans are familiar with the First Amendment guarantees of free speech, press,
[01:06.960 --> 01:08.480]  assembly, and religion.
[01:08.480 --> 01:10.840]  But petition for redress is another matter.
[01:10.840 --> 01:14.560]  We have the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
[01:14.560 --> 01:18.080]  It means that if we're unhappy with what's going on in our government, we can spell out
[01:18.080 --> 01:20.760]  the reasons without fear of being thrown into jail.
[01:20.760 --> 01:22.680]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht.
[01:22.680 --> 01:31.040]  More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[01:31.040 --> 01:34.720]  The Bill of Rights contains the first 10 amendments of our Constitution.
[01:34.720 --> 01:38.160]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[01:38.160 --> 01:39.640]  Our liberty depends on it.
[01:39.640 --> 01:43.540]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember
[01:43.540 --> 01:46.680]  one of your constitutional rights.
[01:46.680 --> 01:48.280]  Privacy is under attack.
[01:48.280 --> 01:51.880]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[01:51.880 --> 01:56.640]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish, too.
[01:56.640 --> 02:01.680]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
[02:01.680 --> 02:04.400]  Privacy, it's worth hanging on to.
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[02:14.320 --> 02:20.160]  When I think of the Second Amendment, I visualize myself wrapping my two arms around the Bill
[02:20.160 --> 02:22.240]  of Rights in a big old bear hug.
[02:22.240 --> 02:26.720]  It's how I remember that the Second Amendment guarantees us the right to bear arms, arms
[02:26.720 --> 02:30.600]  that embrace our freedoms and won't let anyone take them away without a fight.
[02:30.600 --> 02:31.600]  Get it?
[02:31.600 --> 02:32.600]  Two arms?
[02:32.600 --> 02:33.600]  Bear hug?
[02:33.600 --> 02:34.600]  Bear arms?
[02:34.600 --> 02:37.480]  The late Senator Hubert Humphrey captured the spirit of the Second Amendment so well
[02:37.480 --> 02:38.720]  when he said,
[02:38.720 --> 02:43.660]  The right of the citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary government,
[02:43.660 --> 02:48.760]  one more safeguard against the tyranny, which now appears remote in America, but which historically
[02:48.760 --> 02:50.680]  has proved to always be possible.
[02:50.680 --> 02:52.400]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht.
[02:52.400 --> 03:19.280]  More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[03:22.400 --> 03:46.000]  Okay.
[03:46.000 --> 03:52.280]  We are back at the Red Fountain, in the middle of La Radio, and we're talking to Jack about
[03:52.280 --> 04:01.200]  his hypothetical friend in a hypothetical situation where he's hypothetically killed
[04:01.200 --> 04:08.320]  someone while he is hypothetically defending himself from being killed.
[04:08.320 --> 04:14.720]  Hypothetically, you should go to Texas Penal Code Section 9.31.
[04:14.720 --> 04:23.720]  Oh really, all of Chapter 9 speaks to this hypothesis, all kinds of angles of it.
[04:23.720 --> 04:24.720]  Okay.
[04:24.720 --> 04:35.760]  901, definition 902, justification as a defense, 903, confinement as justifiable force, threats
[04:35.760 --> 04:43.360]  as justifiable force, reckless injury, innocent third party, civil remedies unaffected, public
[04:43.360 --> 04:51.640]  duty, necessity, self-defense, deadly force in defense of person, defense of third person,
[04:51.640 --> 04:54.400]  protection of life under health.
[04:54.400 --> 05:03.160]  Anyway, read Chapter 9 or tell your hypothetical friend to.
[05:03.160 --> 05:19.680]  In general, you have the right to protect your property and your person.
[05:19.680 --> 05:27.280]  You have the right to use force, you have the right to use deadly force as is necessary,
[05:27.280 --> 05:32.560]  and you have the right to protect the property and the person of another as if it were your
[05:32.560 --> 05:38.240]  own and you have no duty to withdraw.
[05:38.240 --> 05:42.640]  So if you are not the aggressor, you don't have a duty to withdraw.
[05:42.640 --> 05:50.200]  That's kind of eaten in a nutshell, but the statute is a little more complex.
[05:50.200 --> 05:51.200]  Right.
[05:51.200 --> 06:04.240]  So just through Chapter 9, like say it was a clear-cut self-defense, right?
[06:04.240 --> 06:11.000]  Not the seventh shot or whatever it was you said.
[06:11.000 --> 06:18.600]  Use Chapter 9 as a defense against the over-aggressive DA.
[06:18.600 --> 06:30.160]  Self-defense, necessity, it's kind of obvious.
[06:30.160 --> 06:38.480]  Can I mean, is it an overstatement, I mean an overstepping of his bounds to charge someone
[06:38.480 --> 06:42.360]  that's clearly a self-defense?
[06:42.360 --> 06:47.960]  He has that discretion.
[06:47.960 --> 06:51.520]  I don't know why it would be overstepping his bounds.
[06:51.520 --> 06:58.760]  He doesn't have all the facts and won't necessarily know if somebody needs to bring an affirmative
[06:58.760 --> 07:04.400]  defense and say, it was self-defense.
[07:04.400 --> 07:11.080]  Or if somebody needs to bring an affirmative defense of unclean hands or necessity or some
[07:11.080 --> 07:17.060]  other kind of thing, yeah.
[07:17.060 --> 07:24.400]  He doesn't necessarily know when he has enough facts that line up with the crime and maybe
[07:24.400 --> 07:30.560]  he doesn't have the other facts that would go to an affirmative defense or somehow negate
[07:30.560 --> 07:31.560]  the crime.
[07:31.560 --> 07:32.560]  Yeah.
[07:32.560 --> 07:39.400]  This is too hypothetical for us to speak to directly because we have all the possibilities
[07:39.400 --> 07:40.400]  there.
[07:40.400 --> 07:45.040]  There's a plethora of possibilities and we wouldn't know how to speak to it.
[07:45.040 --> 07:55.400]  What about, just one more hypothetical, what about the guy, the recent guy on the New York
[07:55.400 --> 08:04.320]  subway who was led by the police after the incident because they didn't charge him,
[08:04.320 --> 08:15.720]  but the political pressure, it seems, forced the DA to press charges.
[08:15.720 --> 08:18.200]  The DA can do that.
[08:18.200 --> 08:25.920]  Actually, no, the DA, this is New York, we're in Texas.
[08:25.920 --> 08:32.120]  In Texas, there is nothing in law that allows the DA to make a determination to probable
[08:32.120 --> 08:34.360]  cause.
[08:34.360 --> 08:37.680]  Only magistrates can do that.
[08:37.680 --> 08:44.320]  So if the person is taken before a magistrate and a magistrate finds probable cause, it's
[08:44.320 --> 08:51.560]  not within the authority of the district attorney not to prosecute.
[08:51.560 --> 08:58.240]  But if he's taken before a magistrate and the magistrate does not find probable cause,
[08:58.240 --> 09:04.040]  the DA cannot overrule the magistrate.
[09:04.040 --> 09:17.400]  So your question presumes some standing or authority on the part of the district attorney
[09:17.400 --> 09:21.080]  that he almost certainly does not have.
[09:21.080 --> 09:29.880]  If he were to deflect that pressure, he's getting a lot of political pressure, he could
[09:29.880 --> 09:35.560]  deflect that by saying, well, nobody's filed a criminal complaint.
[09:35.560 --> 09:44.360]  Or he could bring the person before a magistrate, convince a magistrate to find probable cause.
[09:44.360 --> 09:48.240]  That's in Texas, though, right?
[09:48.240 --> 09:53.440]  Well, that's in most every state.
[09:53.440 --> 09:58.400]  Prosecutors or lawyers hired by the state, the only state I know of where a prosecutor
[09:58.400 --> 10:06.120]  has prosecutorial discretion by statute is Pennsylvania.
[10:06.120 --> 10:13.600]  But then in Pennsylvania, if a prosecutor elects not to prosecute, the complainant has
[10:13.600 --> 10:21.360]  standing to appeal to the Court of Common Pleas and then all the way up to the Pennsylvania
[10:21.360 --> 10:23.480]  Supreme.
[10:23.480 --> 10:32.320]  So while the prosecutor does have that authority, the remedy that the individual has is that
[10:32.320 --> 10:36.000]  they have standing to appeal the decision.
[10:36.000 --> 10:43.360]  In most other states, the states that are ruled by Spanish law, you have a duty to give
[10:43.360 --> 10:51.800]  notice of crime, but you have no standing as concerns the enforcement of the law relative
[10:51.800 --> 10:52.800]  to that crime.
[10:52.800 --> 10:56.680]  Does that make sense?
[10:56.680 --> 10:58.160]  Yeah.
[10:58.160 --> 11:03.840]  But with that said, it's not the prosecutor who makes that determination.
[11:03.840 --> 11:11.320]  It is the magistrate or the trial judge.
[11:11.320 --> 11:20.240]  I have filed criminal charges against Garza, Jose Garza, the Travis County District Attorney,
[11:20.240 --> 11:26.520]  because he decided that he didn't have jurisdiction in a case.
[11:26.520 --> 11:29.800]  Well, in part, I agreed with him.
[11:29.800 --> 11:33.000]  He didn't.
[11:33.000 --> 11:39.480]  But where the heck did he get the authority to make that determination?
[11:39.480 --> 11:44.360]  That's a determination a magistrate or a judge would have to make.
[11:44.360 --> 11:49.480]  He could petition the judge to dismiss for lack of subject matter jurisdiction, but he
[11:49.480 --> 11:55.480]  can't do it himself.
[11:55.480 --> 11:57.480]  Does that kind of answer your question?
[11:57.480 --> 12:03.360]  Just one quick final thing.
[12:03.360 --> 12:09.200]  In the case of the subway guy, the recent subway guy in New York, where the police didn't
[12:09.200 --> 12:15.480]  charge, the prosecutor went ahead and charged him, would they have to go to a magistrate
[12:15.480 --> 12:22.880]  or would they go to the grand jury then?
[12:22.880 --> 12:29.440]  That's a technical question I can't answer about New York.
[12:29.440 --> 12:34.320]  In New York, when someone's arrested, they are brought before a magistrate and they do
[12:34.320 --> 12:43.560]  do a preliminary hearing, what in Texas we call an examining trial.
[12:43.560 --> 12:54.520]  The difference between being arrested for the offense on a complaint and an indictment,
[12:54.520 --> 12:59.920]  I'm not sure exactly how that works in New York.
[12:59.920 --> 13:07.400]  I know how it works in Texas if there is an indictment and the person has not been arrested.
[13:07.400 --> 13:09.280]  I said that wrong.
[13:09.280 --> 13:20.280]  If there is a true bill, if the grand jury votes to indict, that is a true bill.
[13:20.280 --> 13:25.880]  The true bill is to be filed with the court by the foreman with a quorum of the grand
[13:25.880 --> 13:32.600]  jury present and the clerk is to make notes in the minutes of the court, unless the person
[13:32.600 --> 13:35.960]  has not been arrested.
[13:35.960 --> 13:43.040]  The person hasn't been arrested before there can be an indictment, the clerk must issue
[13:43.040 --> 13:49.880]  a capious warrant and then once the person has been indicted, then the clerk can make
[13:49.880 --> 13:52.540]  notes in the minutes of the court.
[13:52.540 --> 13:58.600]  So the way I'm reading this and interpreting it, there is no indictment until the person's
[13:58.600 --> 14:00.240]  been arrested.
[14:00.240 --> 14:05.240]  When the person is arrested, there is the presumption that they will be brought before
[14:05.240 --> 14:09.280]  a magistrate, because that's what the law commands.
[14:09.280 --> 14:14.680]  And once they're brought before a magistrate, then the clerk can enter the fact of the indictment
[14:14.680 --> 14:17.640]  into the record.
[14:17.640 --> 14:19.840]  Other states may do that different.
[14:19.840 --> 14:21.640]  All right.
[14:21.640 --> 14:33.160]  Okay, well that's just curious, it just seems unfair for some of these people to be
[14:33.160 --> 14:42.040]  charged, you know, when they're partaking in self-defense, but that's a good thing.
[14:42.040 --> 14:43.040]  Okay.
[14:43.040 --> 14:44.040]  Good.
[14:44.040 --> 14:45.040]  Okay.
[14:45.040 --> 14:46.040]  Okay.
[14:46.040 --> 14:47.040]  Thank you, Jack.
[14:47.040 --> 14:51.200]  Now we're going to go to Daisy in Ohio.
[14:51.200 --> 14:53.160]  Hello, Daisy.
[14:53.160 --> 14:55.560]  What do you have for us today?
[14:55.560 --> 14:57.560]  Hey, Randy.
[14:57.560 --> 14:59.560]  Hey, Brett.
[14:59.560 --> 15:00.560]  Hello.
[15:00.560 --> 15:01.560]  Hey, there.
[15:01.560 --> 15:02.560]  Hey, guys.
[15:02.560 --> 15:05.920]  Your show has been great today, by the way.
[15:05.920 --> 15:14.320]  I've been really informative and entertaining, so hopefully I can add to it.
[15:14.320 --> 15:23.800]  So I actually have so much I could report and talk about, but I'll start with one
[15:23.800 --> 15:25.800]  thing at a time.
[15:25.800 --> 15:35.640]  And so just kind of wanted to give a little update on where I'm at with the currently
[15:35.640 --> 15:43.920]  in settlement negotiations, but I did have a question before I dive into that because
[15:43.920 --> 15:52.560]  I just want to make sure that I don't overstep because we haven't actually signed anything
[15:52.560 --> 15:53.560]  yet.
[15:53.560 --> 16:01.120]  We've been on back and forth for actually, it's almost two months now.
[16:01.120 --> 16:10.400]  So I, you know, in the agreement, there's a non-disclosure, but since it's not been
[16:10.400 --> 16:18.600]  signed yet, I'm assuming it's okay to discuss some of the parameters with you guys.
[16:18.600 --> 16:26.280]  But what would you say about that, just off the cuff, if it's, you know, is that something
[16:26.280 --> 16:30.400]  I should be concerned about to talk about?
[16:30.400 --> 16:34.600]  Nothing's been signed yet, so.
[16:34.600 --> 16:42.000]  Randy, you kind of lost me there.
[16:42.000 --> 16:48.920]  She's saying that there's an NDA, a non-disclosure agreement, as part of the settlement, and
[16:48.920 --> 16:51.440]  they haven't signed anything yet.
[16:51.440 --> 16:56.080]  So there's no NDA in effect, but she knows that they are going to want that.
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[20:06.200 --> 20:15.920]  info marathon, the 26th day of May, 2023, and we're talking to Daisy in Ohio, and Daisy,
[20:15.920 --> 20:19.400]  you created a conundrum.
[20:19.400 --> 20:28.880]  You're speaking to something where there may be a nondisclosure agreement, but you're
[20:28.880 --> 20:34.560]  speaking to it on the radio.
[20:34.560 --> 20:37.000]  You're treading deep water here.
[20:37.000 --> 20:47.800]  Well, and that's why I wanted to start off with that sort of question, over-broad question
[20:47.800 --> 20:55.160]  of is that something, should I stay far away from anything in that, or is there parts of
[20:55.160 --> 20:58.360]  that that could be discussed?
[20:58.360 --> 21:05.720]  I would stay far away from that, because the other side is going to, will always be looking
[21:05.720 --> 21:12.440]  for a crack, and this could give them one.
[21:12.440 --> 21:19.080]  Yeah, even though it's not signed yet, you already have the paper, you know what the
[21:19.080 --> 21:24.560]  scope of it is, you know which things you're not supposed to be allowed to talk about,
[21:24.560 --> 21:32.160]  and if you were to go into that territory, it could just be seen as bad faith.
[21:32.160 --> 21:45.480]  The NDA would become moot, and if they're relying on the NDA to make a settlement offer,
[21:45.480 --> 21:54.240]  if you disclose what would otherwise be in the NDA, then they have no reason to make
[21:54.240 --> 21:57.240]  the offer.
[21:57.240 --> 22:16.800]  Okay, so I'm trying to think where I can move into, because there were some questions
[22:16.800 --> 22:29.080]  I had, but they were based on what is trying to be, what I'm not agreeing to, and that's
[22:29.080 --> 22:31.080]  why it's, you know, not-
[22:31.080 --> 22:35.520]  Bring them to me in an email.
[22:35.520 --> 22:37.240]  Okay.
[22:37.240 --> 22:40.240]  And I'll address them there, that way it's not on the air.
[22:40.240 --> 22:43.040]  The whole country doesn't hear it.
[22:43.040 --> 22:50.160]  In the NDA, they're buying your silence.
[22:50.160 --> 22:54.680]  If you let out what you were going to be silenced about, there's no reason for them to deal
[22:54.680 --> 22:56.680]  with you.
[22:56.680 --> 23:05.720]  Well, right, and what I was going to do is kind of go into the angle of what I'm not
[23:05.720 --> 23:14.560]  going to be silent about, because that's what we're still working out, you know, is
[23:14.560 --> 23:17.840]  what's included and what's not.
[23:17.840 --> 23:26.680]  And so, but because it is kind of a murky little situation, and it's not fully, you
[23:26.680 --> 23:32.360]  know, finalized yet, I had some questions, but I'm thinking that maybe I'll just, like
[23:32.360 --> 23:38.160]  you said, maybe send you an email concerning them.
[23:38.160 --> 23:42.720]  Yeah, that would be much better.
[23:42.720 --> 23:50.040]  You could have a real problem if you reveal something on an open radio channel, then they
[23:50.040 --> 23:56.360]  have no reason to try to buy your silence.
[23:56.360 --> 24:00.920]  That's what the NDA is, they're buying your silence.
[24:00.920 --> 24:11.520]  Right, on, and so, but that's where we're, you know, there is the issue on the table
[24:11.520 --> 24:15.680]  and then the broader, you know, issues of all the things.
[24:15.680 --> 24:27.440]  But I think what I'll switch to then is considering if we aren't, you know, if we don't settle
[24:27.440 --> 24:47.480]  and we continue being that, let me try to formulate the question, is we are so, we have
[24:47.480 --> 25:00.320]  so many motions out that the court has just stopped, hasn't ruled on at all.
[25:00.320 --> 25:06.280]  And so there's, you know, I'm actually going to, I want to scale back a little bit because
[25:06.280 --> 25:12.240]  I want to really think about what I want to ask based on what's going on.
[25:12.240 --> 25:22.440]  And so I'm just probably going to go ahead and exit the conversation now just because
[25:22.440 --> 25:26.080]  I want to maybe take this offline.
[25:26.080 --> 25:32.000]  I'm not just not sure where I'm going with it right now, now that I've had to kind of
[25:32.000 --> 25:38.360]  think about, even though the NDA is not that broad, I just don't want to risk anything.
[25:38.360 --> 25:41.680]  Yeah, that's good to be sure.
[25:41.680 --> 25:42.680]  Yeah.
[25:42.680 --> 25:54.440]  I'll just, hopefully Randy, you will get my email and be able to respond and I'll know.
[25:54.440 --> 26:03.520]  Right now you're skating on thin ice over deep water.
[26:03.520 --> 26:08.880]  Well that, yeah, that's why, I mean, obviously what's in the record is in the record, you
[26:08.880 --> 26:09.880]  know?
[26:09.880 --> 26:15.480]  So that's where I'm like, what can be even, you know, there's a court record that can't
[26:15.480 --> 26:16.480]  be...
[26:16.480 --> 26:19.680]  Yeah, there's nothing in the NDA is going to be able to keep that out of the record.
[26:19.680 --> 26:20.680]  Yeah, yeah, it can.
[26:20.680 --> 26:21.680]  Really?
[26:21.680 --> 26:24.680]  Oh, is that getting it sealed?
[26:24.680 --> 26:25.680]  Exactly.
[26:25.680 --> 26:30.280]  Oh, I don't think, well, that hasn't been brought up at all.
[26:30.280 --> 26:31.280]  Yeah.
[26:31.280 --> 26:35.360]  I mean, that hasn't been an issue that's been brought up.
[26:35.360 --> 26:42.840]  If you reveal what's in the record on the air, then it's not something you can deal
[26:42.840 --> 26:46.840]  with later.
[26:46.840 --> 26:50.640]  Let's do this off the air so we don't take the risk.
[26:50.640 --> 26:53.920]  Okay, that sounds good.
[26:53.920 --> 26:54.920]  We'll do that.
[26:54.920 --> 27:04.200]  And I'll see how this, if it doesn't go through, then I'll be able to be a bit more candid,
[27:04.200 --> 27:05.200]  I suppose.
[27:05.200 --> 27:06.200]  Good.
[27:06.200 --> 27:07.200]  So.
[27:07.200 --> 27:08.200]  All right.
[27:08.200 --> 27:09.200]  Okay.
[27:09.200 --> 27:10.200]  Thanks, guys.
[27:10.200 --> 27:11.200]  I'll hop in now.
[27:11.200 --> 27:12.200]  Okay.
[27:12.200 --> 27:13.200]  Thank you, Daisy.
[27:13.200 --> 27:14.200]  All right.
[27:14.200 --> 27:15.200]  Thank you.
[27:15.200 --> 27:16.200]  Okay.
[27:16.200 --> 27:19.040]  We have some room on the caller board.
[27:19.040 --> 27:27.400]  If you have a question or comment, give us a call, our call in number 512-646-1984.
[27:27.400 --> 27:30.640]  We do have Dr. Joe on the caller bridge.
[27:30.640 --> 27:39.240]  Dr. Joe, you had something you wanted to say about how great and wonderful the legal system
[27:39.240 --> 27:42.040]  is.
[27:42.040 --> 27:50.200]  I could not have imagined just how unspeakably corrupt and how thoroughly corrupt and how
[27:50.200 --> 27:59.080]  pervasively corrupt and how viciously corrupt and wickedly corrupt and evil the entire system
[27:59.080 --> 28:04.080]  has shown itself to me by my own personal experience.
[28:04.080 --> 28:05.080]  This isn't hearsay.
[28:05.080 --> 28:06.960]  This is what happened to me.
[28:06.960 --> 28:10.720]  So, yes, I've got a lot to say.
[28:10.720 --> 28:18.200]  I'd love to say it in front of a judiciary committee meeting or a legislative meeting.
[28:18.200 --> 28:23.840]  And I'd love to tell them just what exactly is going on in our courts and our legal system.
[28:23.840 --> 28:27.720]  I'm sure they'd be surprised.
[28:27.720 --> 28:32.160]  Yeah, I don't think they'd be surprised.
[28:32.160 --> 28:40.760]  Well, I talked to a Supreme Court justice the other day and I told what happened to
[28:40.760 --> 28:41.760]  me.
[28:41.760 --> 28:43.560]  And then I said to him, you don't look surprised.
[28:43.560 --> 28:48.400]  He said, no, I'm sorry that happened to you, but it happens all the time.
[28:48.400 --> 28:52.440]  So, as Americans-
[28:52.440 --> 28:55.440]  They know that, but they're not doing anything about it.
[28:55.440 --> 28:57.880]  Well, I don't know what to say.
[28:57.880 --> 29:03.520]  As Americans, we were trained to respect law enforcement, respect the courts, respect the
[29:03.520 --> 29:08.760]  prosecutors, and it's turned into just a dog fight.
[29:08.760 --> 29:13.960]  When you go up against a prosecutor, it's not a question of whether or not you're guilty
[29:13.960 --> 29:14.960]  or innocent.
[29:14.960 --> 29:22.640]  It's a question of if he gets a conviction on you by whatever means, lies included, then
[29:22.640 --> 29:31.680]  when he gets out of his time with the courts as a prosecutor and he'll go move on to a
[29:31.680 --> 29:38.880]  law firm and he'll bring home a higher dollar figure and that'll go to his children's education
[29:38.880 --> 29:39.880]  fund.
[29:39.880 --> 29:45.640]  So, when you are up against the prosecutor, you're not up against the facts.
[29:45.640 --> 29:50.520]  You're up against his need and desire to put money away for his family.
[29:50.520 --> 29:53.240]  And guess what?
[29:53.240 --> 29:56.240]  You're not going to do very well against that.
[29:56.240 --> 29:57.240]  Hang on.
[29:57.240 --> 29:58.240]  Hang on.
[29:58.240 --> 30:01.120]  We'll be right back.
[30:01.120 --> 30:05.520]  Everyone knows that walking is a great exercise, but you might not know that the way you walk
[30:05.520 --> 30:07.640]  could predict how long you're going to live.
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[33:32.680 --> 33:55.680]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton with a new Logos Radio we're talking about, Dr. Joe.
[33:55.680 --> 34:02.640]  Okay, in the previous segment you were kind of holding back.
[34:02.640 --> 34:06.320]  Why don't you tell us what you really think about the courts?
[34:06.320 --> 34:10.760]  Well, here's what I really think about the courts.
[34:10.760 --> 34:19.760]  I was accused of something and I made a motion to dismiss for lack of subject matter jurisdiction.
[34:19.760 --> 34:22.120]  I made 14 motions.
[34:22.120 --> 34:29.480]  The judge, Cheshire in Victoria, waited until I was in his office, along with a district
[34:29.480 --> 34:35.000]  attorney, and he denied all of them, just said, denied, denied, denied, denied, denied,
[34:35.000 --> 34:36.000]  denied.
[34:36.000 --> 34:40.960]  And the indictment against me did not name a victim.
[34:40.960 --> 34:42.640]  And he said, I'm going to put some names on here.
[34:42.640 --> 34:44.480]  I said, you can't do that.
[34:44.480 --> 34:46.960]  That's tampering with a government document.
[34:46.960 --> 34:50.640]  He looked at me and laughed and said, watch me.
[34:50.640 --> 34:59.080]  So in front of the district attorney, the judge committed a felony, multiple felonies,
[34:59.080 --> 35:05.200]  and I eventually was tried for something that the court never acquired jurisdiction over.
[35:05.200 --> 35:10.040]  And when I appealed, the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals said not only did they never acquire
[35:10.040 --> 35:14.600]  jurisdiction, but there were no felonies.
[35:14.600 --> 35:18.240]  So it's one thing to be tried for something you did.
[35:18.240 --> 35:19.720]  You go, okay.
[35:19.720 --> 35:24.280]  It's another thing to be tried for something you didn't do, and you say, all right.
[35:24.280 --> 35:31.200]  But when you get tried and put behind bars for nothing, for something that never happened,
[35:31.200 --> 35:35.000]  that really, that really kind of frosted my glasses.
[35:35.000 --> 35:36.000]  That was unbelievable.
[35:36.000 --> 35:40.160]  And the judges are deemed to know the law.
[35:40.160 --> 35:44.960]  They all knew that they were putting an innocent man behind bars.
[35:44.960 --> 35:49.080]  And I'd like to say hello to our friend, Judge Bobby Bell.
[35:49.080 --> 35:54.840]  I went for a hearing in front of him for bail.
[35:54.840 --> 35:57.560]  And I had been to every hearing.
[35:57.560 --> 36:02.840]  I had been a good boy, and I obeyed every document and every mandate of the court.
[36:02.840 --> 36:05.520]  I did everything right.
[36:05.520 --> 36:10.520]  The end result of that was the bail bondsman gained faith in me and said, I will give DeRuza
[36:10.520 --> 36:12.560]  whatever bail he needs.
[36:12.560 --> 36:15.160]  I went in front of Judge Bobby Bell.
[36:15.160 --> 36:18.560]  The prosecutor said, DeRuza should not be allowed bail.
[36:18.560 --> 36:24.920]  He's a flight risk, as if I couldn't get in my car and drive across state line.
[36:24.920 --> 36:28.200]  So anyways, Bobby Bell said, what will you do for bail?
[36:28.200 --> 36:31.200]  My attorney said, we'll do $100,000.
[36:31.200 --> 36:32.960]  That's murder bail.
[36:32.960 --> 36:33.960]  No one was hurt.
[36:33.960 --> 36:35.120]  No one was injured.
[36:35.120 --> 36:36.600]  No one complained.
[36:36.600 --> 36:38.120]  There were no victims.
[36:38.120 --> 36:40.480]  There was no jurisdiction.
[36:40.480 --> 36:44.920]  And the judge said, that's not enough.
[36:44.920 --> 36:48.640]  And then he asked the bail bondsman, what's DeRuza's limit?
[36:48.640 --> 36:49.640]  Will you do $1 million?
[36:49.640 --> 36:52.920]  And the bail bondsman said, we'll do $1 million.
[36:52.920 --> 36:56.480]  That's unheard of, even for murder.
[36:56.480 --> 36:58.560]  The judge said, well, what's his limit?
[36:58.560 --> 37:00.480]  The bail bondsman said, he has no limit.
[37:00.480 --> 37:01.480]  We know him.
[37:01.480 --> 37:04.000]  He's come to everything, no problems.
[37:04.000 --> 37:06.000]  The judge said, nobody has no limit.
[37:06.000 --> 37:08.160]  Will you do $5 million?
[37:08.160 --> 37:10.400]  The bail bondsman said, yes, he has no limit.
[37:10.400 --> 37:12.400]  DeRuza has no limit.
[37:12.400 --> 37:13.400]  We'll do $5 million.
[37:13.400 --> 37:17.520]  Judge Bobby Bell said, nobody has no limit.
[37:17.520 --> 37:22.160]  Will you do $100 million?
[37:22.160 --> 37:25.840]  And the bail bondsman said, we have access to lawyers of London's money.
[37:25.840 --> 37:28.040]  We'll do $100 million.
[37:28.040 --> 37:31.240]  DeRuza has no limit.
[37:31.240 --> 37:35.680]  Judge Bobby Bell said, nobody has no limit.
[37:35.680 --> 37:41.320]  Will you do $300 million?
[37:41.320 --> 37:45.520]  And the bail bondsman said, yes, he has no limit.
[37:45.520 --> 37:54.080]  We'll do $300 million for a non-existent crime in a court that never acquired jurisdiction.
[37:54.080 --> 37:59.360]  And the judge Bobby Bell of Victoria said, no, put him in jail.
[37:59.360 --> 38:02.080]  I had a statutory right to bail.
[38:02.080 --> 38:03.600]  They denied it.
[38:03.600 --> 38:10.000]  And it could not have been more an obscene mockery of justice and your listening audience
[38:10.000 --> 38:17.520]  and all of the citizens need to know what's going on inside of our courts.
[38:17.520 --> 38:23.040]  And I know everybody's wondering, why on earth would they do that?
[38:23.040 --> 38:30.240]  They charged him with class B felony, I'm sorry, a third degree felony.
[38:30.240 --> 38:35.920]  And under the law, under the facts set, the highest thing they could have charged him
[38:35.920 --> 38:43.840]  with was a class B misdemeanor, punishable by 90 days in jail.
[38:43.840 --> 38:47.360]  That would have been the highest thing they could have charged him with.
[38:47.360 --> 38:52.520]  But based on the complaints, they couldn't have gotten a conviction.
[38:52.520 --> 38:56.760]  So the question becomes, why on earth would they do something like that?
[38:56.760 --> 39:01.280]  I'll tell you why they would do something like that.
[39:01.280 --> 39:10.640]  Because Dr. Joe had the audacity to come to Victoria, Texas with assets.
[39:10.640 --> 39:12.920]  This wasn't about law.
[39:12.920 --> 39:19.080]  This was about someone with $100,000 worth of assets they could steal.
[39:19.080 --> 39:29.800]  I'm sitting here looking at a petition to seize a Belanca, notice of seizure of Belanca
[39:29.800 --> 39:35.640]  fixed-wing aircraft and model and tail number and such.
[39:35.640 --> 39:39.320]  That aircraft is worth, Dr. Joe, what, about $70,000, $75,000?
[39:39.320 --> 39:40.320]  Yeah.
[39:40.320 --> 39:45.000]  At the time, I just had it refurbished and a new engine.
[39:45.000 --> 39:48.400]  It was worth a good $75,000, yeah.
[39:48.400 --> 39:49.400]  Okay.
[39:49.400 --> 39:57.360]  So they, the officer who made the arrest seized the airplane.
[39:57.360 --> 40:04.000]  Well, they claimed he seized the airplane and we're saying, no, he didn't seize the
[40:04.000 --> 40:12.520]  airplane because Dr. Joe was charged under the Texas Penal Code.
[40:12.520 --> 40:19.200]  There are other statutes of business commerce code, there's a medical code, he could have
[40:19.200 --> 40:24.960]  been charged there, but he was charged under the penal code.
[40:24.960 --> 40:35.080]  And according to, the seizure is listed in the notice as a forfeiture under chapter 59.
[40:35.080 --> 40:43.860]  Chapter 59 authorizes a seizure of property if the property was used in the commission
[40:43.860 --> 40:50.500]  of the crime or was the spoils of the commission of the crime.
[40:50.500 --> 40:54.740]  And the crime was a first or second degree felony.
[40:54.740 --> 41:05.480]  So Beatrice Gonzalez filed this document with the district court saying that we have taken
[41:05.480 --> 41:11.480]  this airplane and we want authorization to seize it.
[41:11.480 --> 41:17.800]  And we can seize aircrafts for a violation of first or second degree felony under the
[41:17.800 --> 41:18.800]  penal code.
[41:18.800 --> 41:28.480]  What it does not have in the, in the document is what they actually charged Dr. Joe with.
[41:28.480 --> 41:35.560]  Now it has a very large section that lists all of the things that property can be seized
[41:35.560 --> 41:36.560]  for.
[41:36.560 --> 41:43.320]  None of those went to what Dr. Joe was charged with.
[41:43.320 --> 41:46.880]  He was charged with a third degree felony under the penal code.
[41:46.880 --> 41:54.680]  And of all of this junk she put in here, none of that authorized a seizure under a third
[41:54.680 --> 41:56.600]  degree felony.
[41:56.600 --> 42:00.400]  That's why she didn't put it in the document.
[42:00.400 --> 42:07.080]  It would have been abundantly clear on its face that the document was an active tampering
[42:07.080 --> 42:09.000]  with the government document.
[42:09.000 --> 42:14.520]  She put false statements on this document, statements that she had authority to seize
[42:14.520 --> 42:19.400]  this airplane, which she had no such authority.
[42:19.400 --> 42:26.520]  So when, what was Poe's first name?
[42:26.520 --> 42:27.880]  James.
[42:27.880 --> 42:30.040]  James Poe.
[42:30.040 --> 42:34.400]  He's a city of Victoria police officer.
[42:34.400 --> 42:38.200]  He's the one that took possession of the airplane.
[42:38.200 --> 42:44.240]  He took possession of the airplane without legal authority.
[42:44.240 --> 42:52.680]  So what's it called when you take possession of something by force that's not yours?
[42:52.680 --> 42:56.720]  That's theft.
[42:56.720 --> 43:04.920]  In the penal code, I read that's theft and it's aggravated 31.03 theft.
[43:04.920 --> 43:11.000]  A person commits an offense if he unlawfully appropriates property with the intent to deprive
[43:11.000 --> 43:13.400]  the owner of the property.
[43:13.400 --> 43:22.760]  However, at the time, Officer Poe, they came into the airport where Dr. Joe was with guns
[43:22.760 --> 43:30.560]  drawn and pointed guns at them so that they could facilitate the taking of his airplane
[43:30.560 --> 43:35.920]  in violation of 29.03 Texas penal code aggravated robbery.
[43:35.920 --> 43:43.680]  A person commits an offense if he commits robbery as defined in section 29.02 and he
[43:43.680 --> 43:47.520]  uses or exhibits a deadly weapon.
[43:47.520 --> 43:56.960]  However, he was at the time acting under the color or pretense of an official capacity,
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[46:22.760 --> 46:24.680]  Yeah.
[46:24.680 --> 46:30.200]  Always, I must be careful, what I'm wishing for.
[46:30.200 --> 46:35.240]  When I'm hungry, I like to know just what I'm fishing for.
[46:35.240 --> 46:41.320]  I ain't asking for much, I ain't trying to be no glutton.
[46:41.320 --> 46:47.080]  I'm just here making my living pushing buttons.
[46:47.080 --> 46:52.760]  I give my message out to anyone in shot and distance.
[46:52.760 --> 46:58.520]  I vote for bravery and against slavery showing resistance.
[46:58.520 --> 47:03.320]  First I'm crawling, then I'm walking, then I start strutting.
[47:03.320 --> 47:06.760]  I'm just so glad to make my living pushing buttons.
[47:06.760 --> 47:08.520]  Okay, we are back.
[47:08.520 --> 47:12.760]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio.
[47:12.760 --> 47:19.640]  And we were talking about the taking of Dr. Joe's airplane.
[47:19.640 --> 47:24.040]  He didn't seize the airplane, he stole it.
[47:24.040 --> 47:26.200]  And he stole it at gunpoint.
[47:26.200 --> 47:26.920]  Yeah.
[47:26.920 --> 47:31.560]  And not constructive gunpoint, but actual gunpoint.
[47:31.560 --> 47:39.160]  And we charge all of these, well, we won't charge 3101
[47:39.160 --> 47:45.560]  because that's a lesser felony than 2903.
[47:45.560 --> 47:52.600]  3101 is just theft, I'm sorry, 3103 is just theft.
[47:52.600 --> 47:56.280]  2903 is aggravated robbery.
[47:56.280 --> 48:05.720]  And the aggravated robbery was committed by Poe
[48:05.720 --> 48:09.880]  while he was acting under the color or pretense
[48:09.880 --> 48:13.720]  of an official capacity, which makes that
[48:13.720 --> 48:18.120]  first degree felony aggravated assault.
[48:18.120 --> 48:25.240]  Then the document that Beatrice Gonzalez filed with the court
[48:25.240 --> 48:29.880]  was made statements of material fact, I'm sorry,
[48:29.880 --> 48:37.640]  first she was acting under the capacity of a licensed attorney.
[48:37.640 --> 48:42.360]  And as a prosecuting attorney for the county of Victoria County,
[48:42.360 --> 48:47.160]  you knew or should have known that the document contained
[48:47.160 --> 48:55.480]  false statements of material fact in violation of 3710 penal code.
[48:55.480 --> 49:02.200]  So that's a, I think that's what is a class A misdemeanor,
[49:02.200 --> 49:03.640]  tampering with government document.
[49:03.640 --> 49:05.800]  OK.
[49:05.800 --> 49:14.440]  Then she filed that with the clerk as a legal process
[49:14.440 --> 49:19.640]  in order to seize this aircraft, knowing the document was fraudulent.
[49:19.640 --> 49:23.080]  That's simulation of a legal process, violation,
[49:23.080 --> 49:27.880]  Texas Penal Code 32.48.
[49:27.880 --> 49:31.960]  And all of this was done in furtherance of
[49:31.960 --> 49:38.600]  a ongoing criminal conspiracy on the part of Victoria County,
[49:38.600 --> 49:42.760]  district judges, prosecutors,
[49:42.760 --> 49:48.360]  sheriff's deputies, and municipal police officers.
[49:48.360 --> 49:53.320]  They regularly seize property.
[49:53.320 --> 50:03.320]  And if the accused forfeits the property to the state,
[50:03.320 --> 50:08.840]  then they drop the charges and look through their records.
[50:08.840 --> 50:13.480]  So all of the forfeiture cases are filed as civil cases.
[50:13.480 --> 50:15.160]  So there's a separate ledger.
[50:15.160 --> 50:20.200]  I had the clerk do a database search and pull me up
[50:20.200 --> 50:25.080]  all of the forfeiture cases for a two or three month period.
[50:25.080 --> 50:29.880]  And I found something very interesting there.
[50:29.880 --> 50:34.280]  In every single case where someone was arrested
[50:34.280 --> 50:41.400]  and charged with a crime and had property confiscated,
[50:41.400 --> 50:46.440]  where if they abandoned their property,
[50:46.440 --> 50:49.880]  if they forfeited their property to the state,
[50:49.880 --> 50:57.240]  the state dropped the charges against them, every single one.
[50:57.240 --> 51:01.960]  That's bad enough, but there were others in there.
[51:01.960 --> 51:08.520]  One of them, they seized $79,000 in cash.
[51:08.520 --> 51:14.280]  And that $79,000 was forfeited to the state.
[51:14.280 --> 51:18.120]  But there were never any charges filed.
[51:18.120 --> 51:23.080]  About half of them were instances where cash
[51:23.080 --> 51:28.040]  and other valuables were seized, forfeited to the state,
[51:28.040 --> 51:30.760]  and no charges were filed.
[51:30.760 --> 51:36.120]  How is that, in any way, how is that different than
[51:36.120 --> 51:39.560]  armed robbery at gunpoint?
[51:39.560 --> 51:45.320]  Good point, because without charges,
[51:45.320 --> 51:48.120]  there is no standing for forfeiture.
[51:48.120 --> 51:51.880]  Even if the guy wants to give it to the courts,
[51:51.880 --> 51:55.320]  you see, when they seize property,
[51:55.320 --> 52:00.520]  if you fight the forfeiture and the state wins,
[52:00.520 --> 52:06.440]  the court can liquidate the property,
[52:06.440 --> 52:11.080]  and they keep 70% of the funds they receive
[52:11.080 --> 52:13.480]  from liquidating the property.
[52:13.480 --> 52:17.640]  If you forfeit the property to the state,
[52:17.640 --> 52:24.280]  the courts get to keep 100% of the amounts they receive
[52:24.280 --> 52:27.160]  in liquidating the property, and it goes into their budget,
[52:27.160 --> 52:32.760]  I think. It's supposed to go into their budget,
[52:32.760 --> 52:36.920]  but we're not sure yet where it goes.
[52:36.920 --> 52:42.360]  But when they seize property and no charges are filed,
[52:42.360 --> 52:43.480]  what is going on there?
[52:43.480 --> 52:47.240]  And I'm seeing in here where they're seizing
[52:47.240 --> 52:53.480]  large amounts of money, mostly cash,
[52:53.480 --> 52:55.560]  and that money is forfeited to the state
[52:55.560 --> 52:57.320]  and no charges are filed.
[52:57.320 --> 52:59.640]  So this guy's got a gambling operation,
[52:59.640 --> 53:03.080]  an illegal gambling operation,
[53:03.080 --> 53:10.840]  and they go in and they seize $79,000 in cash.
[53:10.840 --> 53:16.200]  He forfeits it to the state and no charges are filed.
[53:16.200 --> 53:18.920]  What does that sound like?
[53:18.920 --> 53:21.160]  Armed robbery.
[53:21.160 --> 53:26.360]  Oh, that sounds like payola.
[53:26.360 --> 53:29.160]  Oh, okay.
[53:29.160 --> 53:34.920]  Yeah, they have no power to seize and liquidate those funds
[53:34.920 --> 53:37.320]  if there's no charges filed.
[53:37.320 --> 53:41.800]  Has to be a first- to second-degree felony.
[53:41.800 --> 53:47.320]  But when no charges are filed, there's no authority at all.
[53:47.320 --> 53:49.400]  So I got this gambling operation.
[53:49.400 --> 53:55.640]  I'm making a couple million bucks a month or a year
[53:55.640 --> 53:58.200]  in Victoria County.
[53:58.200 --> 54:00.200]  And every once in a while, I tell them,
[54:00.200 --> 54:02.360]  well, I got this operation over here.
[54:02.360 --> 54:03.880]  You might go have a look at it.
[54:03.880 --> 54:10.280]  And the sheriff goes in there and he finds $79,000.
[54:10.280 --> 54:14.600]  They take the $79,000, they give it to the court,
[54:14.600 --> 54:18.200]  and no charges are ever filed.
[54:18.200 --> 54:19.880]  The guy doesn't get arrested.
[54:19.880 --> 54:26.760]  His gambling operation doesn't get shut down.
[54:26.760 --> 54:30.280]  Now I want to know where the money goes.
[54:30.280 --> 54:31.960]  Exactly.
[54:31.960 --> 54:38.200]  This is way, way too much money for it all to go
[54:38.200 --> 54:45.800]  in the judge's budget, no one in accounting.
[54:45.800 --> 54:49.960]  That, you would wonder why they would do what they did to Dr. Joe.
[54:49.960 --> 54:52.760]  The Darnier killed him.
[54:52.760 --> 54:54.520]  They put him in jail.
[54:54.520 --> 54:56.440]  He got COVID.
[54:56.440 --> 54:58.360]  Darnier died.
[54:58.360 --> 55:03.000]  Two weeks later, he's finally well enough to take him back to jail.
[55:03.000 --> 55:05.480]  Put him back in the same environment,
[55:05.480 --> 55:08.840]  he immediately catches COVID again.
[55:08.840 --> 55:10.360]  Nearly killed him the second time.
[55:10.360 --> 55:13.960]  He subsequently had a couple of strokes.
[55:13.960 --> 55:18.040]  What they did was horrendously outrageous.
[55:18.040 --> 55:21.080]  And I was looking at this.
[55:21.080 --> 55:24.520]  They didn't just seize an airplane from Dr. Joe.
[55:24.520 --> 55:32.440]  They seized about $30,000 worth of funds from him as well.
[55:32.440 --> 55:40.200]  And when I looked at the case, he was prosecuted
[55:40.200 --> 55:44.600]  by the 24th Judicial District.
[55:44.600 --> 55:52.920]  The airplane was seized and processed through the 377th Judicial District.
[55:52.920 --> 56:03.080]  And these other sets of funds, there was a 2,700 and an 8,000 and an 11,000.
[56:03.080 --> 56:08.920]  They were each processed through a different court.
[56:08.920 --> 56:12.040]  So I looked at that and said, what the heck is going on?
[56:12.040 --> 56:15.560]  Everybody gets their palms greased.
[56:15.560 --> 56:18.280]  Ta-da!
[56:18.280 --> 56:21.480]  They all had their fingers in the pie.
[56:21.480 --> 56:22.360]  Exactly.
[56:22.360 --> 56:27.640]  Everybody got a piece of the action.
[56:27.640 --> 56:33.480]  I wonder how many counties are doing exactly the same thing.
[56:33.480 --> 56:39.720]  And how could they do this without the feds shutting them down?
[56:39.720 --> 56:45.160]  My first thought was, I need to take this to the feds.
[56:45.160 --> 56:51.320]  But I have every reason to believe the feds are doing the same thing.
[56:51.320 --> 56:53.880]  The last thing they're going to want to do
[56:53.880 --> 56:59.880]  is prosecute these guys for doing what they're doing.
[56:59.880 --> 57:06.200]  So we have ourselves a conundrum here.
[57:06.200 --> 57:11.720]  Trying to figure out how to do this without getting shot.
[57:11.720 --> 57:18.760]  One way to kind of spread this out is to put it on open media.
[57:18.760 --> 57:23.720]  If you live in a county, you might go down to the district court
[57:23.720 --> 57:30.920]  and ask to see the files for all of the civil forfeitures of the county
[57:30.920 --> 57:35.880]  for the last year and have a look at what you see in there.
[57:35.880 --> 57:38.360]  You may be surprised.
[57:38.360 --> 57:46.280]  You may find what we're finding here is they're all not just corrupt.
[57:46.280 --> 57:53.560]  They are horribly corrupt and have absolutely no remorse,
[57:53.560 --> 57:55.640]  no moral fiber.
[57:55.640 --> 57:57.080]  It's not about the right of things.
[57:57.080 --> 57:58.600]  It's not about the police law.
[57:58.600 --> 58:01.240]  It's not about justice and order.
[58:01.240 --> 58:07.480]  It's all about the money.
[58:07.480 --> 58:13.960]  That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
[58:13.960 --> 58:17.960]  Unbelievable.
[58:17.960 --> 58:19.880]  I wish it was unbelievable.
[58:19.880 --> 58:22.680]  It would be better if it was.
[58:22.680 --> 58:26.680]  Could these guys be this corrupt?
[58:26.680 --> 58:30.200]  Absolutely, they could be this corrupt.
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[01:00:05.800 --> 01:00:09.240]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[01:00:09.240 --> 01:00:10.760]  Our liberty depends on it.
[01:00:10.760 --> 01:00:14.600]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember
[01:00:14.600 --> 01:00:17.480]  one of your constitutional rights.
[01:00:17.480 --> 01:00:19.080]  Privacy is under attack.
[01:00:19.080 --> 01:00:22.680]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[01:00:22.680 --> 01:00:27.440]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[01:00:27.440 --> 01:00:32.640]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
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[01:00:46.560 --> 01:00:48.880]  Imagine your mom and dad are getting ready for bed.
[01:00:48.880 --> 01:00:51.960]  They pull back the covers and find a third party there.
[01:00:51.960 --> 01:00:55.160]  He announces, I'm with the military and I'm sleeping here tonight.
[01:00:55.160 --> 01:00:59.320]  That shocking image of a third party in my parents' bed reminds me what the Third Amendment
[01:00:59.320 --> 01:01:00.920]  was designed to prevent.
[01:01:00.920 --> 01:01:05.120]  It protects us from being forced to share our homes with soldiers, a common demand in
[01:01:05.120 --> 01:01:07.240]  the days of our founding fathers.
[01:01:07.240 --> 01:01:08.920]  Third party, Third Amendment?
[01:01:08.920 --> 01:01:09.920]  Get it?
[01:01:09.920 --> 01:01:13.400]  So if you answer a knock at your door and guys in fatigues demand lodging, tell them
[01:01:13.400 --> 01:01:16.920]  to dust off their copy of the Bill of Rights and reread the Third Amendment.
[01:01:16.920 --> 01:01:18.720]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht.
[01:01:18.720 --> 01:01:31.920]  More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[01:01:31.920 --> 01:01:35.600]  The Bill of Rights contains the first 10 amendments of our Constitution.
[01:01:35.600 --> 01:01:39.040]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[01:01:39.040 --> 01:01:40.560]  Our liberty depends on it.
[01:01:40.560 --> 01:01:44.420]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember
[01:01:44.420 --> 01:01:47.400]  one of your constitutional rights.
[01:01:47.400 --> 01:01:49.000]  Privacy is under attack.
[01:01:49.000 --> 01:01:52.600]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[01:01:52.600 --> 01:01:57.360]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[01:01:57.360 --> 01:02:02.440]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
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[01:02:26.480 --> 01:02:27.960]  search and seizure.
[01:02:27.960 --> 01:02:28.960]  Fourth Amendment?
[01:02:28.960 --> 01:02:30.340]  Four eyes staring at you?
[01:02:30.340 --> 01:02:31.340]  Get it?
[01:02:31.340 --> 01:02:34.440]  Unfortunately, the government is trampling our Fourth Amendment rights in the name of
[01:02:34.440 --> 01:02:35.440]  security.
[01:02:35.440 --> 01:02:39.960]  Case in point, TSA airport scanners that peer under your clothing.
[01:02:39.960 --> 01:02:44.000]  When government employees demand a peep at your privates without probable cause, I say
[01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:46.800]  it's time to sound the constitutional alarm bells.
[01:02:46.800 --> 01:02:51.120]  Join me in asking our representatives to dust off the Bill of Rights and use their googly
[01:02:51.120 --> 01:02:53.400]  eyes to take a gander at the Fourth.
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[01:03:55.160 --> 01:04:21.600]  Okay, we are back in the Kelton-Brett Fountain on this Friday, the 26th day of May, 2023.
[01:04:21.600 --> 01:04:25.960]  And we're going to go, we have a first-time caller on the board, so we're going to go
[01:04:25.960 --> 01:04:26.960]  to our caller.
[01:04:26.960 --> 01:04:35.480]  If you're from the 716 area code, give us a first name and a state.
[01:04:35.480 --> 01:04:41.720]  Randy, this is Shane from Buffalo.
[01:04:41.720 --> 01:04:43.040]  Shane from Buffalo.
[01:04:43.040 --> 01:04:46.560]  Okay, what do you have for us today?
[01:04:46.560 --> 01:04:51.240]  I just want to inform you, I do have a new number.
[01:04:51.240 --> 01:04:54.240]  Wait a minute.
[01:04:54.240 --> 01:04:58.040]  You called in the radio show to tell me that?
[01:04:58.040 --> 01:05:00.760]  Yes.
[01:05:00.760 --> 01:05:07.360]  I would like you to take the phone and beat yourself around the eyes and ears.
[01:05:07.360 --> 01:05:10.600]  I'm just kidding with you.
[01:05:10.600 --> 01:05:15.840]  This is the chump that sends me emails every other day.
[01:05:15.840 --> 01:05:20.940]  Okay, he's from New York after all.
[01:05:20.940 --> 01:05:24.640]  So we'll make allowances.
[01:05:24.640 --> 01:05:28.020]  Just want to give you a quick update.
[01:05:28.020 --> 01:05:33.600]  We are now getting close to nine years of fighting this foreclosure action in upstate
[01:05:33.600 --> 01:05:35.320]  New York.
[01:05:35.320 --> 01:05:42.040]  And the only one that can sell the property, it's a bank that is ready to go out of business
[01:05:42.040 --> 01:05:45.820]  called KeyBank in Cleveland, Ohio.
[01:05:45.820 --> 01:05:50.560]  And they filed a motion, actually a few days ago, a motion to lift the state to proceed
[01:05:50.560 --> 01:05:53.400]  in the sale of the property.
[01:05:53.400 --> 01:05:57.960]  What was interesting about it is that the notice of mortgage payment is a brand new
[01:05:57.960 --> 01:06:00.080]  account number.
[01:06:00.080 --> 01:06:05.960]  And also they never followed the proof of claim under registered claims and bankruptcy.
[01:06:05.960 --> 01:06:13.280]  That's the thing I want to bring to the attention today is that I don't think they can move
[01:06:13.280 --> 01:06:15.120]  forward if we're going to respond accordingly.
[01:06:15.120 --> 01:06:19.520]  But that hearing is on until June the 12th regarding bankruptcy.
[01:06:19.520 --> 01:06:23.160]  I don't think they can do that.
[01:06:23.160 --> 01:06:28.360]  But what's on the docket next week is a motion to dismiss for failure to have a valid Chapter
[01:06:28.360 --> 01:06:29.520]  13 payment plan.
[01:06:29.520 --> 01:06:35.320]  But how do you have a payment plan with no proof of claim in the record from bankruptcy?
[01:06:35.320 --> 01:06:39.440]  So basically what I'm saying to you is that they really don't have any standing to lift
[01:06:39.440 --> 01:06:44.040]  the state to pursue the foreclosure proceeding on the property.
[01:06:44.040 --> 01:06:48.480]  And I was just going to basically have a little discussion about that.
[01:06:48.480 --> 01:06:55.520]  So they're complaining about no payment plan when there's nothing to pay.
[01:06:55.520 --> 01:06:56.520]  Correct.
[01:06:56.520 --> 01:06:59.800]  There's no proof of claim filed at all.
[01:06:59.800 --> 01:07:06.400]  So the court hasn't ruled that they have a claim to be paid on.
[01:07:06.400 --> 01:07:11.960]  They have not made a ruling on it because the hearing is not set until June 6th for
[01:07:11.960 --> 01:07:14.560]  the trustee her motion.
[01:07:14.560 --> 01:07:16.960]  That sounds like a frivolous filing.
[01:07:16.960 --> 01:07:17.960]  Yeah.
[01:07:17.960 --> 01:07:24.360]  Is it going to get a request for sanctions?
[01:07:24.360 --> 01:07:31.840]  You know, I'm so busy right now because I'm working on the KeyBank's motion to lift the
[01:07:31.840 --> 01:07:32.840]  state.
[01:07:32.840 --> 01:07:33.840]  So I've been focusing on that.
[01:07:33.840 --> 01:07:38.960]  And right now I've got, you know, it's several pages long.
[01:07:38.960 --> 01:07:43.200]  I've been busting my tail off because that hearing is set for June 12th.
[01:07:43.200 --> 01:07:49.680]  I certainly understand that because especially having helped people with foreclosures, you
[01:07:49.680 --> 01:07:51.960]  can really get buried in documentation.
[01:07:51.960 --> 01:07:53.720]  Yeah, you can.
[01:07:53.720 --> 01:07:56.520]  So I just want to let you know.
[01:07:56.520 --> 01:07:58.800]  So we got that going on.
[01:07:58.800 --> 01:08:04.920]  And then personally, myself, I have my brief that I filed in the Second Circuit of Manhattan,
[01:08:04.920 --> 01:08:08.240]  which is going to be heard sometime in September.
[01:08:08.240 --> 01:08:18.000]  And that was my bankruptcy proceeding on establishing the original note.
[01:08:18.000 --> 01:08:19.760]  And they still have not produced that.
[01:08:19.760 --> 01:08:25.560]  And they keep bringing up all these frivolous arguments that it's already been decided and
[01:08:25.560 --> 01:08:26.560]  hasn't.
[01:08:26.560 --> 01:08:29.020]  Nobody's ever decided on the merits.
[01:08:29.020 --> 01:08:30.680]  And they just keep on bouncing around it.
[01:08:30.680 --> 01:08:36.760]  And we just can never put our thumb on that penny, you know, hold them to the note.
[01:08:36.760 --> 01:08:37.760]  And they just won't answer.
[01:08:37.760 --> 01:08:40.960]  They bounce all over the place and they bring up, you know, three, four hundred, five hundred
[01:08:40.960 --> 01:08:44.960]  pages of documents of copies on top of copies.
[01:08:44.960 --> 01:08:46.000]  And that's your answer.
[01:08:46.000 --> 01:08:51.720]  But anyways, I just want to let you know that this is an endless fight.
[01:08:51.720 --> 01:08:53.800]  It never ends.
[01:08:53.800 --> 01:08:54.800]  Never ends.
[01:08:54.800 --> 01:09:02.640]  The only way we've ever won in a foreclosure issue is by making a deal.
[01:09:02.640 --> 01:09:04.880]  Yeah.
[01:09:04.880 --> 01:09:12.520]  These guys need that foreclosure so they can collect it on all their derivatives.
[01:09:12.520 --> 01:09:16.480]  They probably sold that mortgage 50 times.
[01:09:16.480 --> 01:09:17.960]  Yes.
[01:09:17.960 --> 01:09:19.400]  Yeah.
[01:09:19.400 --> 01:09:24.640]  Every month that goes by, they have to make a payment on all 50 of those.
[01:09:24.640 --> 01:09:27.320]  So you've held them for nine years.
[01:09:27.320 --> 01:09:40.000]  That's a third of the original mortgage amount you have cost them an ungodly fortune.
[01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:42.200]  Have you attempted to make a deal with them?
[01:09:42.200 --> 01:09:44.680]  No, because they haven't reached out to us yet.
[01:09:44.680 --> 01:09:48.760]  We just keep on filing a lawsuit on top of a lawsuit on top of a lawsuit, which I'm not
[01:09:48.760 --> 01:09:52.200]  going to get into all the other lawsuits going on.
[01:09:52.200 --> 01:09:57.840]  But I just want to focus on that one thing, because they're the only ones that can technically
[01:09:57.840 --> 01:10:00.200]  really sell the property.
[01:10:00.200 --> 01:10:06.160]  And I've never heard of this before, and they filed a motion to stay with no proof of claim
[01:10:06.160 --> 01:10:07.160]  filed.
[01:10:07.160 --> 01:10:09.960]  And I checked it a couple hours ago, there's still nothing there.
[01:10:09.960 --> 01:10:13.400]  And the bankruptcy, now remember the bankruptcy started back on January, or wait, wait, March
[01:10:13.400 --> 01:10:14.400]  of 2023.
[01:10:14.400 --> 01:10:18.240]  I think it was like March 26 or 27.
[01:10:18.240 --> 01:10:21.360]  So they have ample amount of time to get the proof of claim filed.
[01:10:21.360 --> 01:10:26.120]  And I think their deadline is June the 7th, is the last day you can file a proof of claim.
[01:10:26.120 --> 01:10:30.440]  So they're really waiting till the last minute.
[01:10:30.440 --> 01:10:32.480]  Can they file a proof of claim?
[01:10:32.480 --> 01:10:34.800]  Do they have it?
[01:10:34.800 --> 01:10:35.800]  I don't know.
[01:10:35.800 --> 01:10:41.000]  I mean, we know the notice of mortgage payment, which is completely different from the proof
[01:10:41.000 --> 01:10:45.400]  of claim, has a different account number from the old bankruptcy.
[01:10:45.400 --> 01:10:47.640]  It's a completely different account number.
[01:10:47.640 --> 01:10:51.680]  And it also has a different bank on it, too.
[01:10:51.680 --> 01:10:57.120]  It's got like first Niagara Bank slash Key Bank, so I've never seen that before.
[01:10:57.120 --> 01:10:59.800]  So it looks like the bank involved.
[01:10:59.800 --> 01:11:04.240]  Have you asked them to prove up the amounts they claim are owed?
[01:11:04.240 --> 01:11:05.240]  Yes.
[01:11:05.240 --> 01:11:10.280]  That's all going to be in the answer that I'm working on.
[01:11:10.280 --> 01:11:14.800]  Have you addressed the fees charged on the HUD-1 settlement statement?
[01:11:14.800 --> 01:11:18.440]  Well, this is a home equity line of credit.
[01:11:18.440 --> 01:11:19.440]  Oh, okay.
[01:11:19.440 --> 01:11:23.640]  Yeah, there's nothing like that at all.
[01:11:23.640 --> 01:11:28.480]  And I told you this before, I hate to be redundant, but the first lien holder cannot sell the
[01:11:28.480 --> 01:11:34.080]  property because of all the litigation and the indictment they got hit with.
[01:11:34.080 --> 01:11:38.120]  They sold that to another law firm, and that law firm sold it to another law firm.
[01:11:38.120 --> 01:11:41.480]  So even the chief judge of the bankruptcy court says, how in the world are you going
[01:11:41.480 --> 01:11:43.520]  to sell the property when you don't have no titles?
[01:11:43.520 --> 01:11:45.200]  You have no power of attorneys.
[01:11:45.200 --> 01:11:47.320]  You have a lot of issues with your assignments.
[01:11:47.320 --> 01:11:51.240]  So they've been using a second lien holder, the key lock, home equity line of credit.
[01:11:51.240 --> 01:11:56.280]  Now remember this, there was only like 20 or $30,000 owed on it, allegedly, right?
[01:11:56.280 --> 01:11:58.000]  But they can't find a note.
[01:11:58.000 --> 01:12:00.320]  They don't answer any of the motions at all.
[01:12:00.320 --> 01:12:04.560]  And we've just been going in circles for going on almost nine years now.
[01:12:04.560 --> 01:12:07.960]  Well, you have a long way to go.
[01:12:07.960 --> 01:12:16.360]  I had someone call into the show several years ago, and they needed help with their bankruptcy.
[01:12:16.360 --> 01:12:19.160]  And they said, we've ran out of options.
[01:12:19.160 --> 01:12:22.920]  I said, well, I'm not bankruptcy, I'm sorry, help with their foreclosure.
[01:12:22.920 --> 01:12:26.440]  I said, how long have you been fighting this?
[01:12:26.440 --> 01:12:34.720]  She said, 18 years, 18 years she fought.
[01:12:34.720 --> 01:12:45.720]  I said, you are way out of my league, but that's what you got to, that's what you got
[01:12:45.720 --> 01:12:46.720]  to live up to.
[01:12:46.720 --> 01:12:58.200]  Well, we're halfway there, but I don't know how much experience you have in bankruptcy,
[01:12:58.200 --> 01:13:01.520]  but I'd never heard of them trying to lift the state and they still don't have a proof
[01:13:01.520 --> 01:13:06.160]  of claim file in order, like which I'm reading the rules and, you know, how would you even
[01:13:06.160 --> 01:13:08.840]  have standing to even lift the state with no, with no claim?
[01:13:08.840 --> 01:13:11.280]  How could you even have a payment plan with no claim?
[01:13:11.280 --> 01:13:12.280]  There's nothing.
[01:13:12.280 --> 01:13:13.280]  It's crazy.
[01:13:13.280 --> 01:13:17.080]  Have you raised that issue objected to them?
[01:13:17.080 --> 01:13:20.760]  Well, yes, we are finally, yes, we're doing it.
[01:13:20.760 --> 01:13:21.760]  Yes.
[01:13:21.760 --> 01:13:22.760]  That's all in the answer.
[01:13:22.760 --> 01:13:28.360]  That's going to be probably filed on Tuesday because Monday's a holiday.
[01:13:28.360 --> 01:13:32.680]  It's an opposition to deny the motion to lift the state and that's one of the arguments
[01:13:32.680 --> 01:13:35.880]  right there.
[01:13:35.880 --> 01:13:41.080]  Now there's several tentacles, but I'm not going to get into all the details, but the
[01:13:41.080 --> 01:13:45.040]  bottom line is that I believe based on everything I read and do the research is that you have
[01:13:45.040 --> 01:13:49.040]  to file a proof of claim to have standing to lift the state.
[01:13:49.040 --> 01:13:57.400]  Well, that only makes sense because what would be the point of lifting the state if you have
[01:13:57.400 --> 01:14:05.120]  no standing to collect any funds, right?
[01:14:05.120 --> 01:14:15.600]  They have no standing to even talk to the court because I haven't proved up to claim.
[01:14:15.600 --> 01:14:17.040]  Correct.
[01:14:17.040 --> 01:14:23.760]  I might as well go down there and make a claim.
[01:14:23.760 --> 01:14:29.960]  I would have as much standing as they do.
[01:14:29.960 --> 01:14:36.280]  Now I don't know if you had an opportunity to, I believe I sent you their motion to lift
[01:14:36.280 --> 01:14:42.840]  the state, but in there the first five or six pages was all the abuse that we've caused
[01:14:42.840 --> 01:14:46.640]  on lawsuits filed being here, small claims over here, another lawsuit over there, another
[01:14:46.640 --> 01:14:51.280]  lawsuit filed in Cleveland, Ohio, one filed here in New York, and he listed all the lawsuits
[01:14:51.280 --> 01:14:56.320]  but never really directly focused on, you know, we do have the original note.
[01:14:56.320 --> 01:14:59.120]  They will not talk about it.
[01:14:59.120 --> 01:15:00.120]  They just won't do it.
[01:15:00.120 --> 01:15:02.000]  But anyways, that's all I wanted to tell you for tonight.
[01:15:02.000 --> 01:15:04.920]  So we're still, we're still here.
[01:15:04.920 --> 01:15:09.200]  Thank you, Shane, hang in there.
[01:15:09.200 --> 01:15:11.480]  You still got nine years to go.
[01:15:11.480 --> 01:15:12.480]  Okay.
[01:15:12.480 --> 01:15:13.480]  Okay.
[01:15:13.480 --> 01:15:15.480]  Thank you, Shane.
[01:15:15.480 --> 01:15:16.480]  Thanks.
[01:15:16.480 --> 01:15:17.480]  Okay.
[01:15:17.480 --> 01:15:19.640]  We, we don't have any callers.
[01:15:19.640 --> 01:15:25.600]  I'm going to go back and, oh, no, no, no, that wasn't, I didn't want to go back to
[01:15:25.600 --> 01:15:32.560]  Victoria County, kind of finish that one, but I did want to talk to Dr. Joe.
[01:15:32.560 --> 01:15:42.200]  We've been putting together a program for training in neurolinguistic programming.
[01:15:42.200 --> 01:15:48.840]  And Dr. Joe is probably the most knowledgeable guy in neurolinguistic programming that I've
[01:15:48.840 --> 01:15:50.240]  ever come across.
[01:15:50.240 --> 01:15:55.880]  Actually, he's the most knowledgeable guy in a number of areas that I've ever come
[01:15:55.880 --> 01:15:59.160]  across.
[01:15:59.160 --> 01:16:04.400]  And besides that, he is absolutely the most obnoxious person I've ever met in my life.
[01:16:04.400 --> 01:16:08.480]  He holds that accolade as well.
[01:16:08.480 --> 01:16:17.600]  When you sing my praises like that, I know I'm making progress.
[01:16:17.600 --> 01:16:25.720]  But if anybody's interested in NLP and neurolinguistic programming, send me an email.
[01:16:25.720 --> 01:16:35.640]  We are putting together some audios that we would like to get some input on, kind of see
[01:16:35.640 --> 01:16:44.840]  what people are looking for, what's important to them, what they want to know about NLP.
[01:16:44.840 --> 01:16:49.520]  So if you have any interest in it, send us an email.
[01:16:49.520 --> 01:16:50.520]  Let us know.
[01:16:50.520 --> 01:16:51.520]  Hang on.
[01:16:51.520 --> 01:16:53.520]  We'll pick this up on the other side.
[01:16:53.520 --> 01:17:00.160]  We're about to go to break, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, we'll be right back.
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[01:20:00.600 --> 01:20:14.000]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Root of La Radio.
[01:20:14.000 --> 01:20:22.800]  And on the break, Dr. Joe was talking about a cure for suicidal ideation.
[01:20:22.800 --> 01:20:25.000]  You address that for us.
[01:20:25.000 --> 01:20:29.720]  Oh, I'll give you a background briefly.
[01:20:29.720 --> 01:20:38.280]  I was in Miami, and two medical doctors talked to me about a patient they had named Dora,
[01:20:38.280 --> 01:20:42.760]  who was a Colombian woman, 40 years of age.
[01:20:42.760 --> 01:20:48.960]  And she had been told by her boyfriend that she was too old, and he hit 40, and he was
[01:20:48.960 --> 01:20:49.960]  dumping her.
[01:20:49.960 --> 01:20:56.160]  And she went into depression so severe she didn't want to eat, wash her hair.
[01:20:56.160 --> 01:20:57.400]  She was suicidal.
[01:20:57.400 --> 01:21:00.240]  She didn't want to live anymore.
[01:21:00.240 --> 01:21:08.120]  And as you know, Randy, I do something called prenatal re-imprinting, and I put in the position
[01:21:08.120 --> 01:21:13.040]  that enhances the recall of prenatal memories.
[01:21:13.040 --> 01:21:15.800]  And I asked her what was going on.
[01:21:15.800 --> 01:21:21.080]  And she said, my parents have me as the last of seven children.
[01:21:21.080 --> 01:21:22.080]  They have no money.
[01:21:22.080 --> 01:21:28.760]  They're poor peasants living in the mountains of Colombia, and they wish I wasn't here.
[01:21:28.760 --> 01:21:34.440]  And after talking to this gal for a while, I came to realize that she had developed a
[01:21:34.440 --> 01:21:41.680]  prenatal presupposition that whenever things were difficult, the best thing would be for
[01:21:41.680 --> 01:21:45.080]  her to die, for her to not be here.
[01:21:45.080 --> 01:21:52.380]  So I worked with her, changed the structure of her ideation, and her suicidal depression
[01:21:52.380 --> 01:21:53.960]  went away.
[01:21:53.960 --> 01:22:00.760]  I've had an opportunity to work with many suicidal people after that.
[01:22:00.760 --> 01:22:09.000]  And without exception, they have a prenatal trauma in which they create a complex generalization
[01:22:09.000 --> 01:22:15.440]  that whenever things are difficult, the best thing is for them to die or not be born or
[01:22:15.440 --> 01:22:19.200]  something that would involve their not being here.
[01:22:19.200 --> 01:22:27.120]  And without exception, that's what I've identified as a cause of suicidal ideation.
[01:22:27.120 --> 01:22:34.200]  And without exception, every time that ideation is changed, the suicidal tendency goes away.
[01:22:34.200 --> 01:22:39.520]  To say definitively that this is the cure and the cause, it's premature.
[01:22:39.520 --> 01:22:45.000]  But nonetheless, it's highly indicative that this is a fruitful direction that we should
[01:22:45.000 --> 01:22:46.000]  follow.
[01:22:46.000 --> 01:22:49.120]  Does that make sense?
[01:22:49.120 --> 01:22:54.720]  That makes, for me, it makes sense and maybe more for me because I've studied neuro-linguistic
[01:22:54.720 --> 01:22:58.520]  programming for so long.
[01:22:58.520 --> 01:23:07.280]  I studied it since the late 70s and I have all these tools and the people who are listening
[01:23:07.280 --> 01:23:14.160]  who listen a lot have heard me mention NLP before and some of the tools that we have.
[01:23:14.160 --> 01:23:17.680]  But there has always been a problem for me.
[01:23:17.680 --> 01:23:25.440]  Neuro-linguistic programming is a tool for helping people make changes on a level that's
[01:23:25.440 --> 01:23:28.680]  outside conscious awareness.
[01:23:28.680 --> 01:23:34.680]  We have all these tools to do this, but it's not subconscious.
[01:23:34.680 --> 01:23:42.160]  It's a level of awareness that we tend not to pay direct attention to.
[01:23:42.160 --> 01:23:47.460]  But and I talk about, I joke about secret hypnosis and standing on your head squawking
[01:23:47.460 --> 01:23:51.080]  like a chicken, but it's not like that.
[01:23:51.080 --> 01:23:57.460]  Hypnosis is not some weird thing you do where the brain goes away and somebody does something
[01:23:57.460 --> 01:23:59.200]  to you while you're not paying attention.
[01:23:59.200 --> 01:24:01.080]  It's not like that.
[01:24:01.080 --> 01:24:09.400]  Hypnosis is just a set of tools for helping someone to focus on one particular thing to
[01:24:09.400 --> 01:24:12.160]  the exclusion of others.
[01:24:12.160 --> 01:24:19.960]  And in the process of trying to help people change, one of the problems I had was for
[01:24:19.960 --> 01:24:30.960]  the most part when I tried to introduce a change, I'm introducing a surface level behavior.
[01:24:30.960 --> 01:24:41.240]  And there's some outward presentation of behavior, but I did not have the tools to get to the
[01:24:41.240 --> 01:24:45.480]  underlying root cause of that behavior.
[01:24:45.480 --> 01:24:54.600]  And the first time Dr. Joe explained the prenatal re-imprinting, how the prenatal works.
[01:24:54.600 --> 01:25:04.920]  Dr. Joe, would you explain how prenatal conditions affect the fetus?
[01:25:04.920 --> 01:25:08.480]  How prenatal conditions affect the fetus?
[01:25:08.480 --> 01:25:15.480]  When you have a sperm meets an unfertilized ovum, it forms a fertilized egg.
[01:25:15.480 --> 01:25:21.720]  And are you aware that there's a little flash of light that occurs at that moment?
[01:25:21.720 --> 01:25:25.120]  No, I'm not.
[01:25:25.120 --> 01:25:28.320]  It's been well-researched and documented.
[01:25:28.320 --> 01:25:34.640]  At the time when the sperm penetrates the ovum, when it makes the internal connection,
[01:25:34.640 --> 01:25:42.160]  there's a little tiny flash of light when life first begins.
[01:25:42.160 --> 01:25:45.000]  And there are videotapes of this.
[01:25:45.000 --> 01:25:50.400]  This is actually a very exciting area of embryology right at the moment.
[01:25:50.400 --> 01:25:56.160]  But prenatal re-imprinting has a formal dogma that I've recited many times.
[01:25:56.160 --> 01:26:00.720]  An unfertilized egg meets a sperm, it forms a fertilized ovum.
[01:26:00.720 --> 01:26:04.920]  That divides into two cells, four cells, eight cells, 16 cells.
[01:26:04.920 --> 01:26:09.320]  And when it reaches the 32-cell stage, it's called a blastula.
[01:26:09.320 --> 01:26:14.680]  At that point, the intercell mass of the blastula begins to spread out toward what will be the
[01:26:14.680 --> 01:26:20.640]  head and what will be the feet and immediately differentiates into the first nervous tissue
[01:26:20.640 --> 01:26:23.920]  of the human body, the neural plate.
[01:26:23.920 --> 01:26:29.160]  It is important to understand that the first differentiated tissue of the human body is
[01:26:29.160 --> 01:26:31.320]  nervous tissue.
[01:26:31.320 --> 01:26:39.000]  At this point, that nervous tissue begins to record simple reflexes caused by stimulation
[01:26:39.000 --> 01:26:42.040]  from the external environment.
[01:26:42.040 --> 01:26:48.480]  And all of the problems that we have in life without exception are the end result of maladaptive
[01:26:48.480 --> 01:26:55.640]  reflexes, simple Pavlovian stimulus-response reflexes established in the prenatal period
[01:26:55.640 --> 01:27:01.960]  under conditions of maternal and or fetal distress, and I've not found an exception
[01:27:01.960 --> 01:27:04.440]  from that simple rule.
[01:27:04.440 --> 01:27:05.440]  Have you?
[01:27:05.440 --> 01:27:09.620]  I haven't done enough research on it.
[01:27:09.620 --> 01:27:16.760]  This is fairly new for me, but will you explain some of the conditions that you encounter
[01:27:16.760 --> 01:27:24.640]  on a fairly regular basis, for instance like the problems with the umbilical cord and problems
[01:27:24.640 --> 01:27:36.000]  with the amniotic fluid because of smoking, stress, and other conditions of the parent?
[01:27:36.000 --> 01:27:43.160]  At the time when the neural plate is forming, the embryo is extraordinarily sensitive to
[01:27:43.160 --> 01:27:46.720]  stimulus from the external environment.
[01:27:46.720 --> 01:27:50.920]  And one of the things that people have problems with, they have problems with feelings of
[01:27:50.920 --> 01:27:56.180]  inadequacy, inferiority, uncertainty, and insecurity.
[01:27:56.180 --> 01:28:04.000]  What I've found is that when this naive cell is formed, it begins to take on impressions
[01:28:04.000 --> 01:28:10.600]  from the world around it, especially in molecules of emotion.
[01:28:10.600 --> 01:28:18.000]  Whatever milieu, chemical milieu this baby is soaking in, has chemicals and they influence
[01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:26.720]  the internal synthesis of proteins in gene expression, and they do that by becoming sensitive
[01:28:26.720 --> 01:28:29.680]  to cell surface receptor sites.
[01:28:29.680 --> 01:28:36.000]  So what this translates into is mom and dad are fighting and mom is upset, she'll have
[01:28:36.000 --> 01:28:43.760]  elevated levels of hydrochloric acid in her blood, she'll have elevated levels of uric
[01:28:43.760 --> 01:28:49.720]  acid, bile salts, and the breakdown products of adrenaline.
[01:28:49.720 --> 01:29:00.480]  And these very caustic chemicals will be imprinted on the surface of this new embryo, and that
[01:29:00.480 --> 01:29:03.440]  is exactly what they're used to.
[01:29:03.440 --> 01:29:09.400]  And so you'll see them 50 years later causing a fight with their own spouse so that they
[01:29:09.400 --> 01:29:16.040]  can have the same molecules of emotion that were initially imprinted on the surface of
[01:29:16.040 --> 01:29:20.160]  the cell when they were just a tiny embryo.
[01:29:20.160 --> 01:29:24.880]  And that's why people will tend to have the same emotional states over the course of a
[01:29:24.880 --> 01:29:32.080]  lifetime and if anything changes, they will find a way to go back to that to recapitulate
[01:29:32.080 --> 01:29:36.240]  that which they are most used to.
[01:29:36.240 --> 01:29:39.280]  That make sense?
[01:29:39.280 --> 01:29:46.440]  That makes, for me, the first time I heard this, I was astounded because it was exactly
[01:29:46.440 --> 01:29:52.080]  what I was looking for so that I could help people make ethical changes.
[01:29:52.080 --> 01:30:01.360]  Hang on, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rudy LaRidio, we'll be right back.
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[01:33:24.440 --> 01:33:32.840]  I say, tools of ingenuity, to use against the workers of iniquity, tools of massive capability,
[01:33:32.840 --> 01:33:40.840]  available for all eternity, they come from natural divinity, with steadfast roots in
[01:33:40.840 --> 01:33:41.840]  authenticity.
[01:33:41.840 --> 01:33:51.840]  I say, tools to regain dignity, to rebuild the credibility, and I say, truth in nature
[01:33:51.840 --> 01:34:03.840]  must be justice, I believe, truth in nature must be justice, and love is a daunting task,
[01:34:03.840 --> 01:34:11.840]  at least I got the peace and seed, I said more to just take off the silly mask, and in
[01:34:11.840 --> 01:34:17.840]  the light of day we all will pass, and I say, tools of ingenuity, to use against the workers
[01:34:17.840 --> 01:34:25.840]  of iniquity, tools of ingenuity, to use against the workers of iniquity.
[01:34:25.840 --> 01:34:34.640]  Okay, we are back, Andy Kelton, Bret Fountain, ruleoflawradio, and we're talking to Dr. Joe
[01:34:34.640 --> 01:34:38.240]  about prenatal re-imprinting.
[01:34:38.240 --> 01:34:50.040]  And when we went out, you were talking about the effect that the situation of the parents
[01:34:50.040 --> 01:34:56.440]  have on the developing fetus.
[01:34:56.440 --> 01:35:03.400]  I quite frequently see feelings of inadequacy, inferiority, uncertainty, and insecurity,
[01:35:03.400 --> 01:35:15.360]  and if you question the patient, what you'll find is these situations are completely, logically
[01:35:15.360 --> 01:35:25.040]  consistent, completely, and there are mysteries, but not so much as there used to be.
[01:35:25.040 --> 01:35:29.800]  And one time I was working with a psychologist and I put him into the prenatal position,
[01:35:29.800 --> 01:35:38.300]  by the way, much of this is reflective of, but more sophisticated than the basic neuro-linguistic
[01:35:38.300 --> 01:35:42.240]  programming techniques with which many people are familiar.
[01:35:42.240 --> 01:35:48.160]  I was working with Dr. Ross Stewart from Dallas, and we were doing prenatal re-imprinting,
[01:35:48.160 --> 01:35:55.080]  and he had a prenatal memory and a resolution of an issue that haunted him, and when he
[01:35:55.080 --> 01:36:01.600]  put his head up, he looked at me and he said, this is not a metaphor, this is not a simile,
[01:36:01.600 --> 01:36:09.120]  this is not guided imagery, this is not a parable, this is actually what happened before
[01:36:09.120 --> 01:36:11.920]  I was born.
[01:36:11.920 --> 01:36:14.160]  And I said, that's correct.
[01:36:14.160 --> 01:36:21.920]  This is a prenatal memory, and under certain circumstances, using certain NLP-based techniques,
[01:36:21.920 --> 01:36:29.240]  these memories can be retrieved, elicited, retrieved, and any trauma associated with
[01:36:29.240 --> 01:36:30.240]  them results.
[01:36:30.240 --> 01:36:36.000]  And the end result is that the person's life changes dramatically.
[01:36:36.000 --> 01:36:41.280]  And the best way to put it is, you get a different human being with a different neuro-psychiatric
[01:36:41.280 --> 01:36:42.800]  history.
[01:36:42.800 --> 01:36:47.840]  Their sorting systems are different, what they go toward and away from is different.
[01:36:47.840 --> 01:36:52.520]  It's just an astonishing difference in a human being.
[01:36:52.520 --> 01:37:00.560]  And a good psychologist could identify those parameters before and after the prenatal re-imprinting
[01:37:00.560 --> 01:37:01.560]  intervention.
[01:37:01.560 --> 01:37:15.240]  Dr. Joe, approximately how many prenatal re-imprinting sessions have you done over the years?
[01:37:15.240 --> 01:37:17.640]  Oh, thousands.
[01:37:17.640 --> 01:37:24.080]  I first developed the concept of prenatal re-imprinting, I've been working in a medical
[01:37:24.080 --> 01:37:31.280]  school in a hospital in a place called San Cristobal, Dominican Republic.
[01:37:31.280 --> 01:37:40.720]  And in the books on obstetrics gynecology, the OBGYN book says that if the mother is
[01:37:40.720 --> 01:37:48.960]  horribly upset, then the infant may very well defecate into the amniotic fluid.
[01:37:48.960 --> 01:37:56.760]  And I saw that, and I saw how disturbed these infants were, and it just stuck in my mind.
[01:37:56.760 --> 01:37:58.440]  And I kept that memory for years.
[01:37:58.440 --> 01:38:06.340]  It took years, literally decades, of putting together seemingly unrelated medical facts
[01:38:06.340 --> 01:38:12.520]  before I came up with the concept that before we are born, our personality structure is
[01:38:12.520 --> 01:38:15.240]  developed to a large degree.
[01:38:15.240 --> 01:38:21.120]  And after we're born, much of what we do is simply the recognition at the biochemical
[01:38:21.120 --> 01:38:28.720]  level of the circumstances of our earliest prenatal period.
[01:38:28.720 --> 01:38:32.120]  Fascinating study.
[01:38:32.120 --> 01:38:41.440]  When Dr. Joe first went through this with me, I had been trying to figure out how do
[01:38:41.440 --> 01:38:49.160]  I ethically use these tools to help people make changes?
[01:38:49.160 --> 01:38:53.720]  What changes can I ethically help make?
[01:38:53.720 --> 01:39:02.280]  These are very powerful tools, and you can change behaviors that in one circumstance
[01:39:02.280 --> 01:39:12.000]  may appear inappropriate, but on closer examination, they're important behaviors for the overall
[01:39:12.000 --> 01:39:15.640]  well-being of the individual.
[01:39:15.640 --> 01:39:23.040]  How do you figure out what to change?
[01:39:23.040 --> 01:39:30.920]  Well, you know, when people have problems of any kind, what's going on is somehow the
[01:39:30.920 --> 01:39:38.720]  natural order has been blocked or impaired or inhibited, and when an acupuncturist finds
[01:39:38.720 --> 01:39:44.560]  that there is an impairment in the flow of energy in, we'll say, the large intestine
[01:39:44.560 --> 01:39:53.920]  meridian, as it crosses the wrist, and they put a needle in that acupuncture point, what
[01:39:53.920 --> 01:39:59.600]  they're doing is they're pushing nature, they're helping nature do what nature wants to do.
[01:39:59.600 --> 01:40:04.760]  So I start with the presumption that everybody wants to be in rapport and be productive and
[01:40:04.760 --> 01:40:10.200]  be accepted and be loved and be welcomed and be prosperous and be intelligent and be useful
[01:40:10.200 --> 01:40:17.680]  and to be contributory to their family and friends and community.
[01:40:17.680 --> 01:40:24.960]  And when they're not, it's because something is impairing the natural order, and so I never
[01:40:24.960 --> 01:40:32.000]  feel bad about helping people as long as what I'm doing would tend to restore the natural
[01:40:32.000 --> 01:40:33.000]  order.
[01:40:33.000 --> 01:40:38.360]  I never feel bad about doing marriage and family therapy when two people who were fighting
[01:40:38.360 --> 01:40:45.920]  like animals in a cage, when they came into my office, when they left, they were holding
[01:40:45.920 --> 01:40:47.720]  hands and smiling.
[01:40:47.720 --> 01:40:51.600]  I never felt bad about that, because what was I doing, Randy?
[01:40:51.600 --> 01:40:58.400]  I was restoring the natural order.
[01:40:58.400 --> 01:41:02.860]  And that's what we do with prenatal re-imprinting and neuro-linguistic programming and other
[01:41:02.860 --> 01:41:08.760]  than conscious communication and bio-data and Ericksonian hypnosis and all these marvelous
[01:41:08.760 --> 01:41:13.760]  tools, they exist in large part to help us do what?
[01:41:13.760 --> 01:41:17.440]  Restore the natural order.
[01:41:17.440 --> 01:41:20.520]  That's my motto, just restore the natural order.
[01:41:20.520 --> 01:41:25.540]  It's natural for men and women, husband and wife, to love each other and to want to support
[01:41:25.540 --> 01:41:26.540]  each other.
[01:41:26.540 --> 01:41:32.760]  This arguing and bickering stuff, this is against the natural order, and it's always
[01:41:32.760 --> 01:41:37.800]  easy for me to do my job, because people walk in and they don't say it in so many words,
[01:41:37.800 --> 01:41:43.200]  but what they're saying is, inside of me or inside of my relationship, the natural order
[01:41:43.200 --> 01:41:44.200]  has been impaired.
[01:41:44.200 --> 01:41:49.160]  Please figure out what's doing that and fix it and make things the way God and Mother
[01:41:49.160 --> 01:41:54.080]  Nature always wanted them to be.
[01:41:54.080 --> 01:41:56.080]  That make sense to you?
[01:41:56.080 --> 01:41:57.080]  That makes sense.
[01:41:57.080 --> 01:42:05.320]  One of the things that was clear to me in trying to help people make changes is I listen
[01:42:05.320 --> 01:42:13.640]  to the person and make decisions and determinations about what I think is going on, and then I
[01:42:13.640 --> 01:42:17.960]  craft interventions to lay in place.
[01:42:17.960 --> 01:42:27.960]  If I can work at a level that's below the conscious aspect, and I get this impression
[01:42:27.960 --> 01:42:37.920]  that a certain thing is causing their problem, but I'm wrong, and I attempt to introduce
[01:42:37.920 --> 01:42:41.020]  an intervention to correct that.
[01:42:41.020 --> 01:42:48.920]  If I'm wrong, it became clear relatively early on that what I'm doing will have no effect.
[01:42:48.920 --> 01:42:54.680]  What you're doing will have no effect.
[01:42:54.680 --> 01:43:01.040]  If I hit the right point, then it will have an effect and will allow them to change on
[01:43:01.040 --> 01:43:09.680]  a level of which I'm not involved in that change.
[01:43:09.680 --> 01:43:11.640]  There are so many levels of activity.
[01:43:11.640 --> 01:43:14.240]  I remember telling you one time I had a girlfriend.
[01:43:14.240 --> 01:43:17.600]  She came to me and she said, I'm constipated.
[01:43:17.600 --> 01:43:22.240]  Is there anything you can do with acupuncture or herbs or anything like that?
[01:43:22.240 --> 01:43:26.400]  I looked at her and I said, I don't think I can help you with this.
[01:43:26.400 --> 01:43:27.400]  She was disappointed.
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[01:43:35.480 --> 01:43:36.480]  What's going on?
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[01:43:44.200 --> 01:43:49.640]  They just slide down the hill and they can't be stopped.
[01:43:49.640 --> 01:43:54.760]  She looked at me and took a deep breath and said, you son of a gun, and then she went
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[01:46:57.920 --> 01:47:08.640]  into the city, they will shuffle, many long nights, many strong hills.
[01:47:08.640 --> 01:47:09.640]  Okay.
[01:47:09.640 --> 01:47:10.640]  We are back.
[01:47:10.640 --> 01:47:15.120]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio, and we're talking to Dr. Joe about
[01:47:15.120 --> 01:47:19.000]  prenatally unprinted.
[01:47:19.000 --> 01:47:24.920]  For me, this has been something I had been looking for since I studied neuro-linguistic
[01:47:24.920 --> 01:47:25.920]  programming.
[01:47:25.920 --> 01:47:30.560]  Neuro-linguistic programming has a lot of tools.
[01:47:30.560 --> 01:47:36.400]  But what was missing from neuro-linguistic programming is how to think about when and
[01:47:36.400 --> 01:47:39.680]  how to use those tools.
[01:47:39.680 --> 01:47:48.200]  And the thing I liked about prenatal re-imprinting, if it allows an individual to go back and
[01:47:48.200 --> 01:47:53.320]  re-examine things they normally don't think about.
[01:47:53.320 --> 01:48:00.240]  And will you talk about Lawrence Whaley and when you were trying to, working with him
[01:48:00.240 --> 01:48:03.120]  to become more assertive?
[01:48:03.120 --> 01:48:15.120]  Well, it's difficult to comprehend the enormous sophistication of biological systems.
[01:48:15.120 --> 01:48:21.540]  The concept of molecules of emotion is absolutely on the money and so pervasive.
[01:48:21.540 --> 01:48:27.640]  I had this friend and client, whose name is Lawrence, but we won't mention his last name,
[01:48:27.640 --> 01:48:36.160]  and he had problems with being a forceful, dynamic individual in his chosen profession.
[01:48:36.160 --> 01:48:38.560]  And so we talked about it for a while.
[01:48:38.560 --> 01:48:46.240]  I had him retrieve the feelings of being not strong or weak in a certain context, and we
[01:48:46.240 --> 01:48:53.000]  used the NLP technique known as anchoring, or Pavlovian Stimulus Response Reflex Arc.
[01:48:53.000 --> 01:48:59.560]  We stabilized the feeling, and then we had him assume the prenatal position, which interestingly
[01:48:59.560 --> 01:49:09.840]  enough fires the neurons, the population of neuronal structures in the neck and the skull
[01:49:09.840 --> 01:49:17.400]  in such a way that it enables us to do a trans-derivational search or a retrieval of the information.
[01:49:17.400 --> 01:49:19.960]  I said, what's going on?
[01:49:19.960 --> 01:49:25.560]  And he said, my mother is with a group of women and her husband is being taken off to
[01:49:25.560 --> 01:49:32.480]  war and she doesn't feel good about that, and she feels helpless.
[01:49:32.480 --> 01:49:35.320]  I said, well, how does that translate to you?
[01:49:35.320 --> 01:49:40.280]  And he said, well, when I go to do what I do, sometimes I feel helpless.
[01:49:40.280 --> 01:49:45.960]  And then I say, what I always ask is, is it the same feeling, a different feeling, or
[01:49:45.960 --> 01:49:47.720]  a parallel feeling?
[01:49:47.720 --> 01:49:53.800]  Is it the same feeling exactly, a different feeling completely, or a parallel feeling?
[01:49:53.800 --> 01:49:57.480]  He said, no, it's the exact same feeling.
[01:49:57.480 --> 01:50:01.480]  And that is consistent with my research over and over and over again.
[01:50:01.480 --> 01:50:06.640]  When people have problems, I'll have them anchor that feeling, take it back and do an
[01:50:06.640 --> 01:50:12.360]  age regression, similar to age regression in the Ericksonian hypnosis, and then do an
[01:50:12.360 --> 01:50:21.640]  analysis of the prenatal experience, and invariably it will have the same emotional tenor as their
[01:50:21.640 --> 01:50:26.320]  current state matches exactly the prenatal state.
[01:50:26.320 --> 01:50:28.880]  And that's what is absolutely so fascinating.
[01:50:28.880 --> 01:50:34.160]  And what's even more fascinating is, by using our tools of neuro-linguistic programming,
[01:50:34.160 --> 01:50:42.240]  we can change the structure of the internal experience, and when we do that, the problem
[01:50:42.240 --> 01:50:44.440]  goes away and it never comes back.
[01:50:44.440 --> 01:50:49.480]  As a matter of fact, what's really frequent is people will have a problem of some sort,
[01:50:49.480 --> 01:50:55.680]  it'll trouble them their entire life, they'll have a prenatal session with me, and then
[01:50:55.680 --> 01:51:00.640]  the problem that troubled them their entire life, they actually have a hard time remembering
[01:51:00.640 --> 01:51:01.920]  that they ever had it.
[01:51:01.920 --> 01:51:05.520]  To me, that's a hallmark of really, really, really good therapy.
[01:51:05.520 --> 01:51:07.920]  What do you think, Randy?
[01:51:07.920 --> 01:51:16.520]  Well, I put together a document I called the rubber ball theory, and it was a tool for
[01:51:16.520 --> 01:51:21.900]  interrupting someone on a subliminal level.
[01:51:21.900 --> 01:51:29.200]  And I warned people that when they use this tool, that when you start interrupting someone
[01:51:29.200 --> 01:51:34.880]  on a level that's outside their conscious awareness, they will change behaviors that
[01:51:34.880 --> 01:51:41.000]  they've done their entire life and get conscious amnesia for ever doing it.
[01:51:41.000 --> 01:51:47.720]  I had a friend whose wife ran off with his best friend, and my wife and I were in the
[01:51:47.720 --> 01:51:55.960]  local cafe, and he's all upset, and he's threatening to shoot Tommy.
[01:51:55.960 --> 01:52:00.080]  And so I said, well, what are you going to shoot him with?
[01:52:00.080 --> 01:52:03.760]  And the wife starts kicking me under the table.
[01:52:03.760 --> 01:52:05.560]  He said, well, I've got that pistol.
[01:52:05.560 --> 01:52:10.880]  I said, no, man, don't use that pistol, because they can pull that bullet out of Tommy's
[01:52:10.880 --> 01:52:13.440]  brain and push it right down the barrel of that pistol.
[01:52:13.440 --> 01:52:14.440]  Don't you have a shotgun?
[01:52:14.440 --> 01:52:17.280]  You don't got a double barrel shotgun.
[01:52:17.280 --> 01:52:23.480]  Well, take that shotgun and go down there to the 90-degree corner he has to make coming
[01:52:23.480 --> 01:52:26.240]  home every night, and he comes home just after dark.
[01:52:26.240 --> 01:52:32.560]  And when he rounds the corner, level that shotgun just above his headlight and unload
[01:52:32.560 --> 01:52:38.680]  both barrels and leave his brains dripping off the back of the pickup truck.
[01:52:38.680 --> 01:52:41.600]  And the wife is kicking me the whole time.
[01:52:41.600 --> 01:52:48.960]  So two weeks later, we're in there, and she asked him about Tommy, said, you still going
[01:52:48.960 --> 01:52:49.960]  to shoot Tommy?
[01:52:49.960 --> 01:52:50.960]  Now I'm kicking her.
[01:52:50.960 --> 01:52:54.360]  And he said, what are you talking about?
[01:52:54.360 --> 01:52:57.360]  She said, well, last time in here, you said you were going to shoot Tommy.
[01:52:57.360 --> 01:53:03.160]  He said, no, I didn't, and I'm kicking her trying to get her to stop.
[01:53:03.160 --> 01:53:08.680]  And finally, he said, oh, that, I was just blowing off.
[01:53:08.680 --> 01:53:14.240]  What I did was created an image of his best friend's brains dripping off the back of
[01:53:14.240 --> 01:53:15.640]  his pickup truck.
[01:53:15.640 --> 01:53:20.240]  He was mad, and he had this notion of payback.
[01:53:20.240 --> 01:53:26.880]  And I took him beyond where he was at to the backside of what he was thinking.
[01:53:26.880 --> 01:53:33.760]  It so changed his behavior that he completely had complete conscious amnesia for what he
[01:53:33.760 --> 01:53:35.640]  had been doing.
[01:53:35.640 --> 01:53:43.280]  Just the rubber ball theory, which is nowhere near as sophisticated as what Dr. Joe does.
[01:53:43.280 --> 01:53:50.000]  You intensified his experience until he flipped and had a polarity response and also had amnesia.
[01:53:50.000 --> 01:53:53.080]  Good going there, Randy.
[01:53:53.080 --> 01:53:57.480]  With the rubber ball theory, I find it happens all the time.
[01:53:57.480 --> 01:54:06.480]  And that's why the prenatal was so powerful, because now I get to work at a level that
[01:54:06.480 --> 01:54:12.200]  doesn't really go to your everyday life.
[01:54:12.200 --> 01:54:19.560]  It goes to a really subtle influence that changes how you react and respond to your
[01:54:19.560 --> 01:54:20.600]  environment.
[01:54:20.600 --> 01:54:26.640]  If I'm wrong, and I try to change something down there that's not influencing you, it
[01:54:26.640 --> 01:54:29.120]  won't have any effect.
[01:54:29.120 --> 01:54:30.920]  I miss it all together.
[01:54:30.920 --> 01:54:39.800]  But if I'm right and I do it carefully, what it does is puts in an internal pattern interrupt.
[01:54:39.800 --> 01:54:41.080]  I don't change anything.
[01:54:41.080 --> 01:54:44.040]  Dr. Joe doesn't change anything.
[01:54:44.040 --> 01:54:51.760]  What he does is forces up from your inner mind, your inner behavior.
[01:54:51.760 --> 01:54:55.320]  We've got all these patterns, we run automatically.
[01:54:55.320 --> 01:55:02.080]  Somebody says a certain thing, our system pushes up this response.
[01:55:02.080 --> 01:55:07.840]  That response may be adequate, may be proper, and it may not.
[01:55:07.840 --> 01:55:14.400]  If it's not proper and we don't get the response back we expect, the inner mind says, wow,
[01:55:14.400 --> 01:55:16.200]  that didn't work out so good.
[01:55:16.200 --> 01:55:21.160]  So this automatic pattern that it keeps pushing up, it says that thing didn't work out so
[01:55:21.160 --> 01:55:22.560]  good.
[01:55:22.560 --> 01:55:29.120]  So the next time you encounter this stimulus, instead of this automatic pattern just jumping
[01:55:29.120 --> 01:55:35.180]  up and you run the pattern, it'll come up with a little warning buzzer to kind of force
[01:55:35.180 --> 01:55:38.080]  you to take a look at it.
[01:55:38.080 --> 01:55:42.400]  It's asking you to check this out, is this the right thing to do?
[01:55:42.400 --> 01:55:45.760]  And then you can make little adjustments to it and put it back.
[01:55:45.760 --> 01:55:48.800]  This happens so fast we don't even notice it.
[01:55:48.800 --> 01:55:53.800]  We're constantly adjusting our behavior using that kind of mechanism.
[01:55:53.800 --> 01:56:02.120]  So if we can intentionally put a little pattern interruption in there, we don't change their
[01:56:02.120 --> 01:56:04.480]  behavior.
[01:56:04.480 --> 01:56:12.520]  All it does is when Lawrence experiences this feeling of helplessness, something in his
[01:56:12.520 --> 01:56:17.400]  mind says, wait a minute, wait a minute, that may not be appropriate.
[01:56:17.400 --> 01:56:22.720]  And now he's got an opportunity to make a different decision and try something else.
[01:56:22.720 --> 01:56:26.560]  If you try something else and it doesn't work, next time you'll try something else until
[01:56:26.560 --> 01:56:28.560]  something does work.
[01:56:28.560 --> 01:56:33.600]  All this goes on outside of conscious awareness for the most part.
[01:56:33.600 --> 01:56:44.080]  And my problem and my difficulty with neuro-linguistic programming is to find key influences at this
[01:56:44.080 --> 01:56:50.200]  level so I could put a little speed bump in front of them and then step back and see how
[01:56:50.200 --> 01:56:51.560]  the system adjusts.
[01:56:51.560 --> 01:56:54.280]  Does that make sense, Dr. Joe?
[01:56:54.280 --> 01:56:55.280]  It really does.
[01:56:55.280 --> 01:57:01.520]  NLP is an extraordinarily powerful set of tools, but you have to know what to use those
[01:57:01.520 --> 01:57:07.640]  tools on and you have to know what you want to do with those tools.
[01:57:07.640 --> 01:57:10.160]  And that was the problem for many people.
[01:57:10.160 --> 01:57:17.480]  If you take neuro-linguistic programming and apply it to prenatal experience of Cetrix
[01:57:17.480 --> 01:57:23.520]  gynecology, you come up with prenatal re-imprinting.
[01:57:23.520 --> 01:57:30.120]  But you have to take a tool and apply it to a problem and it takes time and training and
[01:57:30.120 --> 01:57:37.200]  experience and just hard work in order to make this come alive and be productive for
[01:57:37.200 --> 01:57:38.200]  us.
[01:57:38.200 --> 01:57:43.240]  And when you develop a certain level of expertise in neuro-linguistic programming, Katie bar
[01:57:43.240 --> 01:57:51.160]  the doors because you can do wonderful, wonderful things in both therapy and the simple analysis
[01:57:51.160 --> 01:57:53.000]  of what's going on here.
[01:57:53.000 --> 01:58:01.600]  I love using NLP to analyze the structure of problems and the structure of conversations
[01:58:01.600 --> 01:58:06.200]  and just the structure of what life's experience is for us.
[01:58:06.200 --> 01:58:09.120]  It's a beautiful set of tools, outstanding.
[01:58:09.120 --> 01:58:16.360]  Yes, and they have been a great benefit to me over the years, but prenatal imprinting
[01:58:16.360 --> 01:58:20.480]  was the one piece that had always been missing.
[01:58:20.480 --> 01:58:27.160]  And thanks to Dr. Joe, I've got a whole different way of going about this.
[01:58:27.160 --> 01:58:28.160]  Thank you, Dr. Joe.
[01:58:28.160 --> 01:58:29.880]  We're about to run out of time.
[01:58:29.880 --> 01:58:30.880]  Thank you all for listening.
[01:58:30.880 --> 01:58:38.880]  We will be back next week at our regular two-hour show on Thursday, four-hour show on Friday
[01:58:38.880 --> 01:58:44.320]  and check out Monday night with Eddie Craig on his traffic show.
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