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[00:00.000 --> 00:05.800]  The Bill of Rights contains the first 10 amendments of our Constitution.
[00:05.800 --> 00:09.440]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[00:09.440 --> 00:10.920]  Our liberty depends on it.
[00:10.920 --> 00:14.860]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember
[00:14.860 --> 00:16.960]  your First Amendment rights.
[00:16.960 --> 00:18.560]  Privacy is under attack.
[00:18.560 --> 00:22.160]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[00:22.160 --> 00:26.920]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[00:26.920 --> 00:32.000]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
[00:32.000 --> 00:34.680]  Privacy, it's worth hanging on to.
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[00:44.840 --> 00:47.800]  Spar, it's what fighters do.
[00:47.800 --> 00:51.280]  It's also how I remember the five guarantees of the First Amendment.
[00:51.280 --> 00:54.480]  If you plan to take away my rights, I'm going to spar with you.
[00:54.480 --> 01:01.600]  Spar with an extra P, S for speech, P for press, another P for petition, A for assembly,
[01:01.600 --> 01:02.960]  and R for religion.
[01:02.960 --> 01:07.040]  Most Americans are familiar with the First Amendment guarantees of free speech, press,
[01:07.040 --> 01:08.560]  assembly, and religion.
[01:08.560 --> 01:10.920]  But petition for redress is another matter.
[01:10.920 --> 01:14.640]  We have the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
[01:14.640 --> 01:18.160]  It means that if we're unhappy with what's going on in our government, we can spell out
[01:18.160 --> 01:20.800]  the reasons without fear of being thrown into jail.
[01:20.800 --> 01:22.760]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht.
[01:22.760 --> 01:31.200]  More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[01:31.200 --> 01:34.880]  The Bill of Rights contains the first 10 amendments of our Constitution.
[01:34.880 --> 01:38.340]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[01:38.340 --> 01:39.840]  Our liberty depends on it.
[01:39.840 --> 01:43.720]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember
[01:43.720 --> 01:46.840]  one of your constitutional rights.
[01:46.840 --> 01:48.440]  Privacy is under attack.
[01:48.440 --> 01:52.040]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[01:52.040 --> 01:56.800]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish, too.
[01:56.800 --> 02:01.840]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
[02:01.840 --> 02:04.560]  Privacy, it's worth hanging on to.
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[02:14.480 --> 02:20.320]  When I think of the Second Amendment, I visualize myself wrapping my two arms around the Bill
[02:20.320 --> 02:22.400]  of Rights in a big old bear hug.
[02:22.400 --> 02:26.880]  It's how I remember that the Second Amendment guarantees us the right to bear arms, arms
[02:26.880 --> 02:30.760]  that embrace our freedoms and won't let anyone take them away without a fight.
[02:30.760 --> 02:31.760]  Get it?
[02:31.760 --> 02:32.760]  Two arms?
[02:32.760 --> 02:33.760]  Bear hug?
[02:33.760 --> 02:34.760]  Bear arms?
[02:34.760 --> 02:37.640]  The late Senator Hubert Humphrey captured the spirit of the Second Amendment so well
[02:37.640 --> 02:38.880]  when he said,
[02:38.880 --> 02:43.840]  The right of the citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary government,
[02:43.840 --> 02:48.920]  one more safeguard against the tyranny, which now appears remote in America, but which historically
[02:48.920 --> 02:50.600]  has proved to always be possible.
[02:50.600 --> 02:52.600]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht.
[02:52.600 --> 03:19.480]  More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[03:53.600 --> 04:06.600]  I know some architects, I know some engineers, they've seen the evidence, they know something
[04:06.600 --> 04:15.600]  seems queer, what's up with the blatant deception, what is the nature of what you might gain?
[04:15.600 --> 04:21.600]  I see something headed straight for you, I think it looks just like a train.
[04:21.600 --> 04:29.360]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelken, Brett Fountain, Root of Love Radio, on this Friday, the 21st
[04:29.360 --> 04:33.520]  day of April, 2023.
[04:33.520 --> 04:42.720]  And we're talking to Scott in Georgia, Scott, Brett wanted to talk about the rules of evidence.
[04:42.720 --> 04:45.880]  Go ahead, Brett.
[04:45.880 --> 04:53.680]  Yeah, early on, you mentioned, Scott, you were talking about some, you had found the
[04:53.680 --> 05:01.760]  word must or shall, that the judge is required to admit something or other as evidence.
[05:01.760 --> 05:13.080]  Are you looking at rule 201 in, let's see, if I can find, Georgia has, yeah, it looks
[05:13.080 --> 05:19.760]  like in Georgia, they kept the numbering, but they've got it prefixed with 24-2.
[05:19.760 --> 05:24.560]  So what you're looking at, 24-2, 201?
[05:24.560 --> 05:38.640]  I think it's 24-1-103, preliminary questions.
[05:38.640 --> 05:48.960]  Let me direct your attention over to 201, and this is mandatory judicial notice.
[05:48.960 --> 05:55.000]  So what you can do, you can put in an affidavit, if you're willing to swear to something as
[05:55.000 --> 06:02.360]  being true and you're doing it under penalty of perjury, for example, this photo is a before
[06:02.360 --> 06:04.840]  and this photo is an after.
[06:04.840 --> 06:14.920]  This is the repair that supposedly happened on the 5th of June, and you can swear to this
[06:14.920 --> 06:19.240]  being factual.
[06:19.240 --> 06:24.880]  You can't draw conclusions from that and say, so as the court can see, he's not doing
[06:24.880 --> 06:25.880]  his job.
[06:25.880 --> 06:26.880]  This is a breach of duty.
[06:26.880 --> 06:28.160]  You can't go there.
[06:28.160 --> 06:37.440]  That's not a fact that you can bring, that's something that would have to be decided.
[06:37.440 --> 06:43.920]  It's subject to reasonable dispute whether or not there was a breach of duty.
[06:43.920 --> 06:49.240]  But you can say, this is a photo of how it was on June 5, and this is a photo of how
[06:49.240 --> 06:52.920]  it was on June 6.
[06:52.920 --> 07:07.440]  Or you can say some fact that's not up for dispute such as this property is located within
[07:07.440 --> 07:11.400]  the territory of such and such a city.
[07:11.400 --> 07:17.320]  You can put these kinds of facts out there and you can swear to them in an affidavit,
[07:17.320 --> 07:21.540]  and then you can reference them in a judicial notice.
[07:21.540 --> 07:29.520]  Judicial notice is mandatory for the judge to take judicial notice of something if it
[07:29.520 --> 07:32.520]  is certain kinds of facts.
[07:32.520 --> 07:41.960]  Take a look at your Georgia Code, Section 242-201, and provide the court with those
[07:41.960 --> 07:42.960]  facts.
[07:42.960 --> 07:43.960]  I did.
[07:43.960 --> 07:52.200]  All my petitions and all my motions are swore to under penalty of perjury, and I have asked
[07:52.200 --> 07:58.800]  the court several times to take judicial notice of all my relevance, my photos and videos,
[07:58.800 --> 08:01.280]  and they will not look at it.
[08:01.280 --> 08:03.400]  Don't worry about it.
[08:03.400 --> 08:04.400]  I guess it.
[08:04.400 --> 08:05.400]  Yeah, don't worry about it.
[08:05.400 --> 08:06.400]  Don't worry about it.
[08:06.400 --> 08:09.320]  You're just setting a record.
[08:09.320 --> 08:14.080]  When you get to the appellate court, they will look at it.
[08:14.080 --> 08:15.080]  Yeah.
[08:15.080 --> 08:18.080]  Don't be frustrated and give up and feel betrayed and all of that.
[08:18.080 --> 08:21.920]  Just take it in stride.
[08:21.920 --> 08:28.080]  They as a whole, this big ethereal they, they often do things wrong.
[08:28.080 --> 08:29.080]  Don't worry about it.
[08:29.080 --> 08:31.080]  Make a note of it.
[08:31.080 --> 08:34.080]  Move on.
[08:34.080 --> 08:40.360]  You're just setting the record for the appellate court.
[08:40.360 --> 08:47.680]  Yes, I found that appellate court case where it talks about someone appealed an issue to
[08:47.680 --> 08:49.680]  the appellate courts.
[08:49.680 --> 08:55.320]  And the appellate court remanded the summer judgment back because of insufficiency of
[08:55.320 --> 08:56.320]  evidence.
[08:56.320 --> 09:03.440]  And nothing's been authenticated on the record, and I've tried to show this to them and they,
[09:03.440 --> 09:06.480]  I don't know if it's coming down to an offer and accepted thing.
[09:06.480 --> 09:13.920]  Well, what you know, you're making a tactical error.
[09:13.920 --> 09:15.240]  You're in the trial court.
[09:15.240 --> 09:18.200]  You feel like the trial courts mistreating you.
[09:18.200 --> 09:21.080]  Don't worry about it.
[09:21.080 --> 09:24.640]  Your purpose in the trial court is not to get a ruling in your favor.
[09:24.640 --> 09:29.640]  I mean, that would be nice if you did, but that's not your purpose.
[09:29.640 --> 09:35.440]  Your purpose is to set the record for the appellate court.
[09:35.440 --> 09:40.440]  As long as you get your facts on the record, don't worry about the trial court.
[09:40.440 --> 09:43.480]  The appellate court's where the action is.
[09:43.480 --> 09:48.600]  And if you talk to Dr. Graves, he'll tell you that everything you do in the trial court
[09:48.600 --> 09:52.080]  is just to set the record for the appellate court.
[09:52.080 --> 09:57.280]  You do anything else, you're wasting your time.
[09:57.280 --> 10:07.800]  And have you looked at the pattern jury charge for the claim that you're making?
[10:07.800 --> 10:11.280]  A pattern jury charge?
[10:11.280 --> 10:13.480]  Yes.
[10:13.480 --> 10:19.560]  Before you step in the front door, you need to know what's going to happen when you come
[10:19.560 --> 10:22.040]  out the back door.
[10:22.040 --> 10:27.840]  And the last thing that's going to happen in the trial court is the judge is going to
[10:27.840 --> 10:35.760]  say to the jury, this is what you must find.
[10:35.760 --> 10:40.360]  And then he'll list what the jury must find.
[10:40.360 --> 10:45.480]  Let's say you're making a claim for fraud by non-disclosure.
[10:45.480 --> 10:54.840]  You must find that the defendant made a voluntary statement of fact, that the defendant failed
[10:54.840 --> 11:02.880]  to give full disclosure of relevant facts, that the plaintiff did not have equal access
[11:02.880 --> 11:08.080]  to the information, that the defendant knew the plaintiff did not have equal access to
[11:08.080 --> 11:17.000]  the information, that the plaintiff made a determination based on the false facts, on
[11:17.000 --> 11:26.520]  the facts delivered without full disclosure, that the plaintiff was harmed thereby.
[11:26.520 --> 11:31.680]  You must plead and prove each one of those.
[11:31.680 --> 11:38.480]  If you miss one of those, the court cannot rule in your favor.
[11:38.480 --> 11:43.880]  These pattern jury charges are delivered to the jury after they've heard all the evidence,
[11:43.880 --> 11:48.480]  after everybody's been arguing, and it's time for the jury to go back in their back room
[11:48.480 --> 11:52.560]  and deliberate and come up with their final decision.
[11:52.560 --> 11:55.000]  This is what the judge tells them at that point.
[11:55.000 --> 11:56.040]  He gives them this list.
[11:56.040 --> 11:57.520]  You need to find this, this, this, this.
[11:57.520 --> 12:00.520]  They have a little bullet point thing.
[12:00.520 --> 12:01.600]  That's what Randy's talking about.
[12:01.600 --> 12:08.080]  You need to know that and craft your presentation toward that.
[12:08.080 --> 12:15.040]  If you have argued anything that is not in the pattern jury charge, you've wasted your
[12:15.040 --> 12:22.400]  time in the court's time because the court can't hear it and the jury can't hear it.
[12:22.400 --> 12:24.580]  So get pattern jury charge.
[12:24.580 --> 12:29.920]  That will be your guide.
[12:29.920 --> 12:33.820]  I can't get to a jury, so to get to the jury charge.
[12:33.820 --> 12:35.400]  It doesn't matter.
[12:35.400 --> 12:37.160]  Jury doesn't matter.
[12:37.160 --> 12:41.880]  This is what must be proven.
[12:41.880 --> 12:44.200]  This is what you can take to you.
[12:44.200 --> 12:47.160]  I think he's not understanding.
[12:47.160 --> 12:48.400]  This is different.
[12:48.400 --> 12:50.840]  This is not something that you're talking to the jury.
[12:50.840 --> 12:56.840]  What Randy's talking about is you go to a book, they're on the internet.
[12:56.840 --> 13:01.840]  Pattern jury charges, you look it up for the cause of action that you're dealing with,
[13:01.840 --> 13:06.440]  and you can look at the list of things that would be read to a jury.
[13:06.440 --> 13:09.040]  Does that make sense?
[13:09.040 --> 13:11.040]  Yeah, yes.
[13:11.040 --> 13:12.040]  Yeah.
[13:12.040 --> 13:16.680]  And it doesn't matter if you have a jury or not.
[13:16.680 --> 13:21.760]  The judge already knows what these are, so he doesn't have to tell them to himself.
[13:21.760 --> 13:25.720]  But when he's got a jury, he's got to tell them all the stuff you got to tell the judge.
[13:25.720 --> 13:29.160]  If you tell the judge anything else, he can't hear you.
[13:29.160 --> 13:33.200]  Oh, he can hear you, but it doesn't make any difference.
[13:33.200 --> 13:36.040]  He's going to sit there and he's going to look interested.
[13:36.040 --> 13:40.100]  He's going to nod his head, but he's not going to be paying any attention to it because he's
[13:40.100 --> 13:43.880]  not allowed to.
[13:43.880 --> 13:48.360]  You must put before the judge every element of your case.
[13:48.360 --> 13:57.480]  If you miss one of them, the judge has no power to rule in your favor.
[13:57.480 --> 14:03.080]  If you prove every element before the court, then he must rule in your favor.
[14:03.080 --> 14:06.880]  And that's what you take to the Court of Appeals.
[14:06.880 --> 14:14.800]  So go back, find the pattern jury charge for your particular issue, read it two or three
[14:14.800 --> 14:20.960]  times and then come back and look at what you've presented to the court.
[14:20.960 --> 14:23.440]  And then to then determine where you're at.
[14:23.440 --> 14:24.440]  Yeah.
[14:24.440 --> 14:31.320]  Pattern jury charge, and you say interlocutory appeal is to-
[14:31.320 --> 14:33.960]  Interlocutory appeal.
[14:33.960 --> 14:44.240]  What that is, is if there has been a ruling that will interfere with your ability to adjudicate
[14:44.240 --> 14:51.440]  the rest of your case, then you can stop right there, go out to the appellate court and ask
[14:51.440 --> 14:57.280]  the appellate court to review that ruling and that ruling only.
[14:57.280 --> 15:02.920]  And if they rule in your favor, they will remand this back to the judge and say, this
[15:02.920 --> 15:08.440]  is how you must rule and this is how you must move forward from this point.
[15:08.440 --> 15:09.440]  Does that make sense?
[15:09.440 --> 15:12.680]  Yeah, that makes perfect sense.
[15:12.680 --> 15:19.720]  But what if you've got to put $10,000 in the court registry to get to the-
[15:19.720 --> 15:23.400]  Then you file a petition for inability to pay.
[15:23.400 --> 15:24.400]  Okay.
[15:24.400 --> 15:30.480]  Well, I think they ignore a lot of those too.
[15:30.480 --> 15:37.280]  No, you make the statement, you say, you have to swear to it, make the statement of inability
[15:37.280 --> 15:43.000]  to pay court, not to pay, it's a forward, statement of inability to afford court costs
[15:43.000 --> 15:45.120]  and fees.
[15:45.120 --> 15:53.160]  So there are certain data points that they are going to try to collect and you put in
[15:53.160 --> 15:58.880]  there and be honest and say, what's your situation?
[15:58.880 --> 16:01.840]  And you don't have to, it's like Randy was saying a little while ago, you don't have
[16:01.840 --> 16:05.080]  to be completely broke, don't have two nickels rubbed together.
[16:05.080 --> 16:11.960]  This is just, it would be an undue hardship to afford these things.
[16:11.960 --> 16:15.960]  It's not saying that you can't sell your only truck.
[16:15.960 --> 16:19.320]  I've only got the pickup truck and that's how I get back and forth to work.
[16:19.320 --> 16:21.920]  I could sell it and I could get the $500.
[16:21.920 --> 16:24.280]  That's not what it's saying.
[16:24.280 --> 16:30.360]  It's saying it would be an undue hardship on you to have to come up with it considering
[16:30.360 --> 16:31.360]  basic expenses.
[16:31.360 --> 16:38.880]  It's not an affidavit of indigency, it's not an affidavit of indigency.
[16:38.880 --> 16:45.240]  Essentially, yes, you need a motion to go with the affidavit of indigency.
[16:45.240 --> 16:50.120]  Okay, all right.
[16:50.120 --> 16:56.440]  Okay, we're about to go to our sponsors, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Ruva Radio, we'll
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[20:24.440 --> 20:32.640]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton with Fountain Rule of Law Radio, and we're talking to Scott
[20:32.640 --> 20:33.640]  and Georgia Scott.
[20:33.640 --> 20:34.640]  Yes.
[20:34.640 --> 20:38.440]  Did we give you some more, enough work to do?
[20:38.440 --> 20:40.480]  Oh, yes.
[20:40.480 --> 20:41.480]  Yes.
[20:41.480 --> 20:49.000]  Yeah, I think you will feel a lot better once you've looked at the pattern of jury charges.
[20:49.000 --> 20:57.640]  There's another way to do this, you can look at causes of action, your claims and causes
[20:57.640 --> 21:00.040]  of action.
[21:00.040 --> 21:04.320]  Do you have a specific named cause of action?
[21:04.320 --> 21:07.320]  I've got several.
[21:07.320 --> 21:08.320]  Look them up.
[21:08.320 --> 21:17.160]  Each one will have a set of elements, but the best thing to have is pattern jury charge.
[21:17.160 --> 21:25.280]  Pattern jury charges are argued by lawyers constantly in court, and when everybody comes
[21:25.280 --> 21:30.840]  up with a set that everybody can agree with, then it becomes the pattern jury charge.
[21:30.840 --> 21:33.360]  So that is the best thing to have.
[21:33.360 --> 21:39.160]  Then you can go into court and you can be comfortable that you're addressing everything
[21:39.160 --> 21:42.080]  you need to address.
[21:42.080 --> 21:47.600]  Okay, so keep us up to date on how this goes.
[21:47.600 --> 21:51.040]  All right, will do.
[21:51.040 --> 21:53.440]  Okay, thank you, Scott.
[21:53.440 --> 21:57.520]  Okay, now we're going to go to Ken in Wisconsin.
[21:57.520 --> 22:02.800]  Brett, is Roger the one that dropped off?
[22:02.800 --> 22:05.080]  I don't know who dropped off.
[22:05.080 --> 22:12.040]  I wasn't paying attention to the name that was after Scott, but I see we got Roger the
[22:12.040 --> 22:16.720]  one that just joined in, but I don't know if he was there earlier.
[22:16.720 --> 22:22.960]  Roger, were you there earlier and dropped off and called back?
[22:22.960 --> 22:26.160]  Hello, this is Roger.
[22:26.160 --> 22:27.640]  Can you hear me?
[22:27.640 --> 22:32.440]  Yeah, did you call earlier and drop off and then call back?
[22:32.440 --> 22:37.760]  Well, I attempted to call before, but it wouldn't...
[22:37.760 --> 22:38.760]  Oh, okay.
[22:38.760 --> 22:41.200]  Then you called while it was full.
[22:41.200 --> 22:46.000]  We had someone who had been holding for quite a while and then dropped off, and I hated
[22:46.000 --> 22:50.800]  to skip over him, but since it wasn't you, you can wait.
[22:50.800 --> 22:54.840]  Okay, sorry about that, but this is-
[22:54.840 --> 22:56.320]  I'm just being annoying.
[22:56.320 --> 22:59.040]  Okay, we'll get to you shortly.
[22:59.040 --> 23:00.440]  Don't go away.
[23:00.440 --> 23:03.360]  Okay, now we're going to Ken in Wisconsin.
[23:03.360 --> 23:06.360]  Hello, Ken.
[23:06.360 --> 23:26.640]  Well, I don't hear him snoring, and our next in line is Tina, and oh my goodness, oh, she's
[23:26.640 --> 23:27.640]  not snoring again.
[23:27.640 --> 23:28.640]  Hello, Tina.
[23:28.640 --> 23:29.640]  Are you there?
[23:29.640 --> 23:30.640]  Yeah.
[23:30.640 --> 23:35.640]  You are being very childish again tonight, Randy.
[23:35.640 --> 23:40.320]  I don't know what's got into you this week.
[23:40.320 --> 23:41.320]  Okay.
[23:41.320 --> 23:44.280]  What do you have for us today?
[23:44.280 --> 23:46.720]  I'm putting people to sleep.
[23:46.720 --> 23:56.520]  Well, I was looking into these attorney fees that the attorneys just arbitrarily added
[23:56.520 --> 24:05.320]  to my loan balance without telling me why, and they just said, oh, they can do it because
[24:05.320 --> 24:07.360]  it's collecting on a debt.
[24:07.360 --> 24:17.520]  Well, some interesting stuff I found today that might be helpful to anybody specifically
[24:17.520 --> 24:28.840]  in California, because it's called the American Rule, and it specifically states that the
[24:28.840 --> 24:36.080]  American Rule, it says California generally follows what is commonly referred to as the
[24:36.080 --> 24:43.000]  American Rule, which provides that each party to a lawsuit must ordinarily pay his own attorney
[24:43.000 --> 24:44.240]  fees.
[24:44.240 --> 24:52.560]  It's codified in Code of Civil Procedure 1021, which states in relevant part, except as attorney
[24:52.560 --> 24:56.800]  fees are specifically provided for by statute.
[24:56.800 --> 25:03.600]  The measure and mode of compensation of attorneys and counselors at law is left to the agreement
[25:03.600 --> 25:08.160]  expressed or implied of the parties.
[25:08.160 --> 25:16.240]  California law requires express authorization by statute or contract for an attorney fees
[25:16.240 --> 25:23.040]  award to the prevailing party, and view of the well-established American Rule generally
[25:23.040 --> 25:28.280]  denying the allowance of attorney fees in the absence of contract or statute.
[25:28.280 --> 25:37.120]  Courts have often stated that statutory attorney fees may be awarded only when expressly, explicitly,
[25:37.120 --> 25:43.120]  or specifically authorized by statute, and then statutes allowing an award of fees will
[25:43.120 --> 25:45.120]  be strictly construed.
[25:45.120 --> 25:55.960]  Yes, and you will find in most every contract, there will be an attorney fee clause.
[25:55.960 --> 26:04.080]  Well, in my note, it says on number eight, borrowers failure to pay.
[26:04.080 --> 26:12.080]  It says in enforcing the note, the legal fees they charged were not for enforcing the note,
[26:12.080 --> 26:18.840]  they were for defending the lawsuit and a small claim suit, and it doesn't say reasonable
[26:18.840 --> 26:19.840]  attorney fees.
[26:19.840 --> 26:25.160]  There is nothing reasonable, and it says reasonable attorney fees, there's nothing-
[26:25.160 --> 26:26.160]  Hold on, hold on.
[26:26.160 --> 26:27.160] ... attorney fees.
[26:27.160 --> 26:32.200]  Was this, are you speaking to your mortgage issue?
[26:32.200 --> 26:37.280]  I'm speaking to the mortgage issue, but this is part in part.
[26:37.280 --> 26:40.160]  Okay, let's take a step back.
[26:40.160 --> 26:44.440]  Do you have your HUD-1 settlement statement?
[26:44.440 --> 26:47.880]  Yes, I do.
[26:47.880 --> 26:57.000]  Look at that statement on page two at item 703.
[26:57.000 --> 27:03.720]  From 703, it goes to 801, and then go down that statement and see if you can tell me
[27:03.720 --> 27:08.920]  precisely what each of those fees are for.
[27:08.920 --> 27:16.160]  The HUD-1 was before the mortgage was done, this was where they added attorney fees for
[27:16.160 --> 27:22.800]  a litigation that I had against them years later, and they just added, they didn't-
[27:22.800 --> 27:30.860]  Wait, wait, no, no, no, the HUD-1 is the document that they gave you at closing, that listed
[27:30.860 --> 27:33.200]  all of the closing costs.
[27:33.200 --> 27:37.560]  But this wasn't relevant to the closing.
[27:37.560 --> 27:42.960]  I just have someone help, we'll see, you're talking about fees.
[27:42.960 --> 27:46.680]  No, I'm not talking about fees.
[27:46.680 --> 27:49.440]  You're talking about attorney fees.
[27:49.440 --> 28:01.640]  Well, I'm talking about specific attorney fees that the attorneys for the bank added
[28:01.640 --> 28:09.360]  to my loan balance after I had filed a lawsuit against the bank.
[28:09.360 --> 28:19.160]  They didn't ask for the attorney fees from the court, they just added them to the loan
[28:19.160 --> 28:20.160]  balance.
[28:20.160 --> 28:25.920]  Haven't you addressed that before?
[28:25.920 --> 28:32.600]  Well, I have attempted to, but I never knew until I got my loan, because they would always
[28:32.600 --> 28:36.680]  refuse to tell me what they did for those legal fees.
[28:36.680 --> 28:42.040]  They would not tell me, they kept saying that they didn't have to tell me exactly what
[28:42.040 --> 28:43.040]  they did.
[28:43.040 --> 28:47.000]  I just had to pay them because they were collecting on a debt.
[28:47.000 --> 28:51.880]  Now bear in mind, they said they weren't, and this wasn't collecting on a debt, they
[28:51.880 --> 28:54.280]  were defending a lawsuit.
[28:54.280 --> 28:57.200]  Wait a minute, are you on a hands-free?
[28:57.200 --> 29:02.880]  Hold on one second, let me try to get...
[29:02.880 --> 29:07.160]  Either that or your head's in a toilet.
[29:07.160 --> 29:11.280]  Well, I can show you it isn't that.
[29:11.280 --> 29:14.360]  Okay, that's better.
[29:14.360 --> 29:18.280]  So they added these fees to my loan balance.
[29:18.280 --> 29:24.680]  They did not ask the court for permission to get attorney fees from that case.
[29:24.680 --> 29:31.880]  The problem is, it may be too late to adjudicate that particular issue.
[29:31.880 --> 29:44.840]  Hang on, see there, I was trying to protect you from diving off the cliff, because that's
[29:44.840 --> 29:51.640]  the kind of guy I am, and my wife keeps saying, yeah, I know what kind of guy you are.
[29:51.640 --> 30:01.280]  Hang on, Randy Kelton, Red Fountain, Rue La Radio, we'll be right back.
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[33:32.880 --> 34:00.040]  Okay, we are back.
[34:00.040 --> 34:07.600]  And we're talking to Tina in California, and Tina, that is a good point, and everybody
[34:07.600 --> 34:10.080]  should look at it.
[34:10.080 --> 34:18.320]  If you're in a case, you need to know what every fine or fee is, where it come from and
[34:18.320 --> 34:26.040]  how it got onto the bill, because these guys just put anything you want to in there.
[34:26.040 --> 34:32.400]  So they did, and they just said, you have to pay whatever we say you owe.
[34:32.400 --> 34:40.240]  And they refused discovery, but I got my loan file, and that is where I found out that over
[34:40.240 --> 34:50.960]  $15,000 of legal fees was added for my small claims case against Mnuchin during that time.
[34:50.960 --> 35:01.920]  Now, you can't get more than $150 in small claims fees, you know, and they're a cat.
[35:01.920 --> 35:09.320]  The max you can get with special permission is $1,000, but it's clearly state, so Melvany
[35:09.320 --> 35:15.040]  and Myers were advising them, that's a huge law firm out of New York, were advising them
[35:15.040 --> 35:21.440]  on this, and they charged like, you know, $9,000 or $10,000 or $11,000.
[35:21.440 --> 35:27.960]  And then the law firm I'm going against right now for the fraud and deliberate acts where
[35:27.960 --> 35:34.880]  you saw the letter they wrote, they admitted that they had every intention to deceive me.
[35:34.880 --> 35:42.120]  They added another, I don't know, $8,000 or $9,000 for these small claims case against
[35:42.120 --> 35:43.120]  Mnuchin.
[35:43.120 --> 35:50.080]  It says on the litigation invoice, charged to loan.
[35:50.080 --> 35:51.080]  You can't do that.
[35:51.080 --> 35:52.080]  I've just discovered this.
[35:52.080 --> 35:56.480]  This is what I've been asking, where these fees came from.
[35:56.480 --> 35:58.040]  Okay, hold on.
[35:58.040 --> 36:00.160]  That raises an issue.
[36:00.160 --> 36:03.760]  You just discovered it.
[36:03.760 --> 36:07.200]  Could you have discovered it sooner?
[36:07.200 --> 36:14.840]  How could I have discovered that they charged these small claims case to the loan balance
[36:14.840 --> 36:16.960]  when I didn't have any discovery?
[36:16.960 --> 36:19.200]  They refused to tell me.
[36:19.200 --> 36:20.200]  Okay.
[36:20.200 --> 36:26.640]  No, hold on, hold on, I'm trying to get to something very specific.
[36:26.640 --> 36:31.000]  When did your claim become ripe?
[36:31.000 --> 36:39.480]  Your claim becomes ripe either when you discover the fraud or when you could have or should
[36:39.480 --> 36:42.800]  have discovered the fraud.
[36:42.800 --> 36:48.560]  So how are you able to discover the fraud now?
[36:48.560 --> 36:56.720]  Because I was asked to be a witness and do a deposition, which was four hours long, in
[36:56.720 --> 37:05.360]  the case of the whistleblower suing Warm West Bank for defrauding the government.
[37:05.360 --> 37:07.400]  That was a case in Texas.
[37:07.400 --> 37:16.360]  Now because I did that, I asked the attorney if she could get my loan file for me and she
[37:16.360 --> 37:18.840]  asked, said, well, let me try.
[37:18.840 --> 37:25.440]  I will request it because you are one of the witnesses in this case and she requested it
[37:25.440 --> 37:27.640]  so she could look through it.
[37:27.640 --> 37:32.040]  And she asked me if I'd seen a couple of these letters and I said, no, I've never seen those.
[37:32.040 --> 37:33.800]  She said, I thought not.
[37:33.800 --> 37:36.960]  And then I said, can I get a copy of that?
[37:36.960 --> 37:40.600]  And she said she would ask the bank if there was any-
[37:40.600 --> 37:42.400]  Okay, okay, hold on, hold on.
[37:42.400 --> 37:45.160]  How long ago was this?
[37:45.160 --> 37:47.520]  Last year.
[37:47.520 --> 37:48.520]  Last year.
[37:48.520 --> 37:51.200]  Then the claim is ripe.
[37:51.200 --> 37:52.200]  Yeah.
[37:52.200 --> 37:58.640]  You sue them for fraud.
[37:58.640 --> 38:02.360]  Because this was not something you could discover sooner.
[38:02.360 --> 38:03.360]  No.
[38:03.360 --> 38:04.360]  No.
[38:04.360 --> 38:11.880]  Because you were denied the discovery.
[38:11.880 --> 38:19.800]  Your claim, the clock on your claim starts when you discover the fraud or when you could
[38:19.800 --> 38:22.400]  have discovered the fraud.
[38:22.400 --> 38:29.000]  Since you weren't provided access to discover it, then it didn't start then.
[38:29.000 --> 38:30.000]  Yeah.
[38:30.000 --> 38:31.000]  Yeah.
[38:31.000 --> 38:35.120]  I mean, there's no way I could have discovered this without this loan file.
[38:35.120 --> 38:43.080]  I could never have discovered that they charged these fees to my loan without the court's
[38:43.080 --> 38:44.080]  permission.
[38:44.080 --> 38:47.680]  They never asked the court.
[38:47.680 --> 38:53.440]  And they totally charged some of it for-
[38:53.440 --> 38:56.440]  It's time to go after them again.
[38:56.440 --> 39:03.320]  Yeah, and get the old, it's all bought by residue to garner.
[39:03.320 --> 39:08.720]  Well, how can we get this out of the state and into the Fed?
[39:08.720 --> 39:18.840]  Well, I'm planning on filing criminal charges against them because they cannot do this,
[39:18.840 --> 39:19.840]  the type of thing.
[39:19.840 --> 39:26.000]  And it says here in California Civil Code Section 1717, it allows for the collection
[39:26.000 --> 39:31.320]  of attorneys fees if there is a clause in a contract specifying such a provision.
[39:31.320 --> 39:36.760]  The provision, however, cannot be one-sided, meaning both the plaintiff and defendant should
[39:36.760 --> 39:39.960]  be able to recover attorney's fees if they win.
[39:39.960 --> 39:46.040]  And then I found the cap on attorney's fees in small claims.
[39:46.040 --> 39:54.760]  It says in the Section 116790, the amount can be up to 1,000 if the superior court finds
[39:54.760 --> 39:59.760]  the, that's if you appeal it, was without substantial merit.
[39:59.760 --> 40:03.440]  Other than that, it's limited to $150.
[40:03.440 --> 40:07.480]  And they charged over $15,000 between two law firms.
[40:07.480 --> 40:16.440]  And it's clearly safe for minutiae small claims charged to loan.
[40:16.440 --> 40:18.160]  That sounds like a really good suit.
[40:18.160 --> 40:20.360]  You sue the law firms themselves.
[40:20.360 --> 40:21.360]  Mm-hmm.
[40:21.360 --> 40:27.760]  Well, I'm actually in with the law firm.
[40:27.760 --> 40:32.440]  You sue the law firm for the full amount of the property that you lost.
[40:32.440 --> 40:33.440]  Mm-hmm.
[40:33.440 --> 40:34.440]  Interplicate.
[40:34.440 --> 40:48.040]  The fraud they committed against you was a proximate cause of your default.
[40:48.040 --> 40:56.480]  And the inability to pay this suddenly inflated amount which they called, you know, what did
[40:56.480 --> 41:04.800]  they call it, you know, advance, corporate advances, they called it, on all my notices.
[41:04.800 --> 41:10.440]  It was a total of like $26,000 or something like that, $27,000, and it changed, you know,
[41:10.440 --> 41:11.440]  month by month.
[41:11.440 --> 41:13.720]  But that's what they called it.
[41:13.720 --> 41:19.840]  And when I asked for invoices and specified, they said, we don't have to give you them.
[41:19.840 --> 41:28.800]  You can sue them for the full, three times the amount of the property value that this
[41:28.800 --> 41:35.920]  cost you, and you might consider suing them as a private attorney general suit and sue
[41:35.920 --> 41:36.920]  them in the Fed.
[41:36.920 --> 41:37.920]  Hmm.
[41:37.920 --> 41:44.120]  Private attorney general suit, I like that.
[41:44.120 --> 41:56.280]  This was a federal bank or a bank that's not out of California, so that gets you in defense.
[41:56.280 --> 42:02.240]  It is out of, well, technically, I don't know whether they class it as California or Texas,
[42:02.240 --> 42:05.520]  because they've got offices in both states.
[42:05.520 --> 42:09.120]  If they have, wherever their main office is.
[42:09.120 --> 42:11.880]  California, I think.
[42:11.880 --> 42:14.320]  That's where they class it.
[42:14.320 --> 42:21.320]  Well, if part of, okay, international shoe.
[42:21.320 --> 42:27.880]  If this small claims case, did it take place in California or Texas?
[42:27.880 --> 42:30.560]  It took place in California.
[42:30.560 --> 42:31.880]  Hmm.
[42:31.880 --> 42:40.440]  Well, does the claim include actions that occurred in Texas?
[42:40.440 --> 42:47.440]  I don't recall, because that was back in 2013, and I've got to find what I put in there.
[42:47.440 --> 42:52.520]  So I can't recall that at all.
[42:52.520 --> 42:56.440]  Was the bank a national association?
[42:56.440 --> 43:05.360]  It was a national association at one time, and then it changed to, again, with an F.
[43:05.360 --> 43:07.760]  I can't remember the exact thing.
[43:07.760 --> 43:10.680]  But it was at one point a national association.
[43:10.680 --> 43:11.680]  Okay.
[43:11.680 --> 43:19.760]  We need to do this off the air to see if we can get jurisdiction into the Fed.
[43:19.760 --> 43:30.240]  Do you have evidence to indicate that this was done to more than one person?
[43:30.240 --> 43:38.640]  I could ask the attorneys for Susan to see if they know that.
[43:38.640 --> 43:45.600]  When you think about this over the break, there's a way to get this into the Fed.
[43:45.600 --> 43:46.600]  Hang on.
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[46:55.520 --> 47:07.920]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton and Brett Fountain, Blue of Law Radio, and Brett and
[47:07.920 --> 47:16.040]  I kicked this around over the break and we couldn't find a way to get it into the Fed.
[47:16.040 --> 47:21.440]  Sucks having to sue back in the state because the state's trying to stop you from suing,
[47:21.440 --> 47:26.540]  but this is sounds like a good clean suit.
[47:26.540 --> 47:35.600]  You would think it would be, and there's a lot of, you know, what I'm finding is, you
[47:35.600 --> 47:42.840]  know, fees have to be equitable, there's a lot of things I've found that you really can't
[47:42.840 --> 47:47.960]  just arbitrarily add, you know, fees that are not reasonable.
[47:47.960 --> 47:55.720]  Wait a minute, wait a minute, hold on, you're arguing an issue that's not an issue.
[47:55.720 --> 48:00.000]  It's pattern jury charge.
[48:00.000 --> 48:06.720]  They were forbidden to charge these fees over a certain amount.
[48:06.720 --> 48:11.920]  The only issue is they charge these fees over this certain amount.
[48:11.920 --> 48:18.640]  If you argue that the fees were not equitable, you tacitly agree that they can charge these
[48:18.640 --> 48:19.640]  fees.
[48:19.640 --> 48:20.640]  Okay.
[48:20.640 --> 48:24.200]  It's a pattern jury charge.
[48:24.200 --> 48:28.200]  Only argue what you have to argue.
[48:28.200 --> 48:34.720]  And in this case, it's going to be, they were forbidden by this statute to charge fees above
[48:34.720 --> 48:35.720]  this amount.
[48:35.720 --> 48:42.240]  They charged fees above this amount, that's all.
[48:42.240 --> 48:44.600]  Okay.
[48:44.600 --> 48:53.240]  So when it says what is an unconscionable fee, rule 1.5A prohibits the lawyer from charging
[48:53.240 --> 48:57.440]  an unconscionable or illegal fee.
[48:57.440 --> 49:04.080]  That would only be, unconscionable would only be a fee within the range they're allowed
[49:04.080 --> 49:06.080]  to charge.
[49:06.080 --> 49:13.680]  Well it says here on the rule 1.5A, it is described unconscionability has been described
[49:13.680 --> 49:20.880]  as a fee that is so exorbitant and wholly disproportionate to the services performed
[49:20.880 --> 49:23.080]  as to shock the conscience.
[49:23.080 --> 49:24.080]  Conscious.
[49:24.080 --> 49:30.200]  You're still going to the fact that they charged all of this amount of money.
[49:30.200 --> 49:33.360]  That's tacit agreement that they can.
[49:33.360 --> 49:35.040]  Don't go there.
[49:35.040 --> 49:36.040]  Okay.
[49:36.040 --> 49:39.880]  They can only charge this amount of money.
[49:39.880 --> 49:48.880]  Even if their fees were absolutely 100% justified, too bad, makes no difference.
[49:48.880 --> 49:50.080]  Yeah.
[49:50.080 --> 49:55.760]  You can't charge this amount and don't go beyond what you have to prove.
[49:55.760 --> 49:58.360]  You open doors you might not want to open.
[49:58.360 --> 50:02.040]  Yeah, and the way that Randy said it was nice and clean.
[50:02.040 --> 50:07.760]  They're not allowed, this, such and such says they're not allowed to charge more than X.
[50:07.760 --> 50:09.440]  They did charge more than X.
[50:09.440 --> 50:10.440]  Yeah.
[50:10.440 --> 50:19.360]  And the charge, the charge more than X was the proximate cause of your loss of your property.
[50:19.360 --> 50:26.080]  So you sue them for three times the value of the property.
[50:26.080 --> 50:30.580]  That's what I mean right now, but they're not even allowed to charge legal fees without
[50:30.580 --> 50:32.200]  an order from the court.
[50:32.200 --> 50:37.680]  It says here, recovery of legal costs is always at the discretion of the court.
[50:37.680 --> 50:42.520]  There isn't an absolute right to recover your legal costs even if you win.
[50:42.520 --> 50:47.160]  The court needs to exercise its discretion before making a decision.
[50:47.160 --> 50:51.120]  That doesn't mean it's completely arbitrary, but that means they have to go to the court
[50:51.120 --> 50:54.160]  to ask for attorney fees.
[50:54.160 --> 50:58.880]  So you get to claim that all the fees were fraudulent.
[50:58.880 --> 51:00.880]  Yes.
[51:00.880 --> 51:04.520]  Good, this sounds like a great case.
[51:04.520 --> 51:06.280]  This is actually one you might win.
[51:06.280 --> 51:12.160]  Well, what you do is you sue the crap out of them and then make a deal, then find out
[51:12.160 --> 51:20.080]  what their insurance coverage is, and it's almost certainly a million per.
[51:20.080 --> 51:22.880]  How many lawyers do you have involved?
[51:22.880 --> 51:31.120]  Well, the whole firm is 220 lawyers, and there's two specifically that have been on this case
[51:31.120 --> 51:34.120]  with me, against me.
[51:34.120 --> 51:39.920]  Okay, here you would only be able to make a claim against the lawyers who were actually
[51:39.920 --> 51:40.920]  involved.
[51:40.920 --> 51:45.000]  The fact that they were part of the firm won't get you a claim against them.
[51:45.000 --> 51:51.240]  Now, you should bar-grieve everybody, but you can't sue everybody, so you got two.
[51:51.240 --> 52:00.840]  So first you do some discovery to find out how much of an insurance rider they have.
[52:00.840 --> 52:11.160]  Then you do a storage request, a request under the storage doctrine, for an amount just under
[52:11.160 --> 52:14.160]  the amount of their insurance.
[52:14.160 --> 52:16.080]  How do you get their insurance amount?
[52:16.080 --> 52:19.040]  How do you get that information?
[52:19.040 --> 52:20.040]  Discovery.
[52:20.040 --> 52:21.320]  They won't let me-
[52:21.320 --> 52:22.320]  They will have to-
[52:22.320 --> 52:23.320]  Discovery.
[52:23.320 --> 52:24.320]  I mean-
[52:24.320 --> 52:26.560]  Yeah, they'll have to produce that in discovery.
[52:26.560 --> 52:27.640]  That's not even a question.
[52:27.640 --> 52:32.320]  They're required to do that, I think, just by standard rules.
[52:32.320 --> 52:33.320]  Even in California?
[52:33.320 --> 52:46.960]  Well, you got a point there, but the insurance company will step in and defend them, and
[52:46.960 --> 52:49.920]  they will tell you how much their limits are.
[52:49.920 --> 52:50.920]  They'll have to.
[52:50.920 --> 52:58.200]  And then you make a request just under their limits, and that puts the insurance company
[52:58.200 --> 52:59.840]  on the dot.
[52:59.840 --> 53:07.160]  Well, you make an offer to settle, so you sue for three times the amount of the property,
[53:07.160 --> 53:08.160]  if that's enough.
[53:08.160 --> 53:09.720]  How much was the property worth?
[53:09.720 --> 53:14.720]  Well, when it went 900,000.
[53:14.720 --> 53:15.720]  That's enough.
[53:15.720 --> 53:20.160]  You can sue for 2.7 million.
[53:20.160 --> 53:24.800]  No, what's the property worth now?
[53:24.800 --> 53:26.840]  1.5 million.
[53:26.840 --> 53:33.760]  Then you sue for 4.5 million.
[53:33.760 --> 53:38.480]  And then you offer to settle for, if they got a million-dollar rider, you offer to settle
[53:38.480 --> 53:41.360]  for 1.9 million.
[53:41.360 --> 53:47.960]  And if they don't settle and you win your case, their insurance company has to pay the
[53:47.960 --> 53:52.280]  whole thing.
[53:52.280 --> 53:57.120]  And the lawyers are going to be telling the insurance company to pay her, get rid of this
[53:57.120 --> 54:03.960]  case, get it off my desk, pay them.
[54:03.960 --> 54:06.560]  How would 2 million do you?
[54:06.560 --> 54:09.160]  Well, that would be quite helpful.
[54:09.160 --> 54:12.920]  Although it's more than that, because they've lost over the years, not being able to get
[54:12.920 --> 54:14.880]  the rental income from it.
[54:14.880 --> 54:20.000]  So you may have a good shot at them.
[54:20.000 --> 54:22.240]  It's not over yet.
[54:22.240 --> 54:24.080]  It's not over.
[54:24.080 --> 54:27.360]  It's not over till the British lady sings.
[54:27.360 --> 54:29.400]  That's right.
[54:29.400 --> 54:31.640]  And she's not about to give up yet.
[54:31.640 --> 54:36.800]  She's had her moments, but now I've found this discovery stuff where, oh, and I also
[54:36.800 --> 54:43.400]  found in that loan file where it specifically states they knew those grant deeds, which
[54:43.400 --> 54:48.000]  they submitted into court to get the interim, were false.
[54:48.000 --> 54:50.360]  They knew they were false.
[54:50.360 --> 54:56.320]  And two months later, no, three months later, they submitted them into court anyway, and
[54:56.320 --> 55:01.560]  passed them off as being recorded, and they knew they were not recorded three months before
[55:01.560 --> 55:02.560]  that.
[55:02.560 --> 55:10.040]  That's a violation of the California Penal Code.
[55:10.040 --> 55:11.640]  File criminally then?
[55:11.640 --> 55:15.640]  Well, that's what I'm in the process of working on right now.
[55:15.640 --> 55:16.640]  Oh, good.
[55:16.640 --> 55:17.640]  Yeah.
[55:17.640 --> 55:25.520]  They tell you a lot of things when you can get them.
[55:25.520 --> 55:26.520]  You're not done yet.
[55:26.520 --> 55:29.480]  You're likely to win this thing yet.
[55:29.480 --> 55:32.240]  Well, I'm going to try.
[55:32.240 --> 55:37.280]  And I'm going to give them a good fight, and they're spending a lot of money fighting me.
[55:37.280 --> 55:42.800]  They've already been out like almost $200,000, which they tried to get, but they didn't.
[55:42.800 --> 55:46.000]  When they asked the courts, the courts didn't award them it.
[55:46.000 --> 55:48.000]  This is good.
[55:48.000 --> 55:50.920]  It's not over till it's over.
[55:50.920 --> 55:51.920]  Nope.
[55:51.920 --> 55:58.640]  Anyway, I'll post this stuff about the California and the American rule in the telegram site,
[55:58.640 --> 56:04.600]  because it might be helpful for other people too, especially in California.
[56:04.600 --> 56:05.600]  Good.
[56:05.600 --> 56:06.600]  Good.
[56:06.600 --> 56:07.600]  Good.
[56:07.600 --> 56:08.600]  Wonderful.
[56:08.600 --> 56:09.600]  Okay.
[56:09.600 --> 56:10.600]  Okay.
[56:10.600 --> 56:11.600]  Do you have anything else for us?
[56:11.600 --> 56:12.600]  No.
[56:12.600 --> 56:13.600]  Not today.
[56:13.600 --> 56:14.600]  Okay.
[56:14.600 --> 56:15.600]  We only have one more caller on the board.
[56:15.600 --> 56:23.400]  So if anybody's out there has a question or comment, give us a call, 512-646-1984.
[56:23.400 --> 56:29.480]  And Tina, keep us up to date and call me off the air.
[56:29.480 --> 56:30.960]  I'd like to talk about this.
[56:30.960 --> 56:31.960]  Okay.
[56:31.960 --> 56:32.960]  Sounds good.
[56:32.960 --> 56:33.960]  We'll do.
[56:33.960 --> 56:34.960]  We'll call you Sunday.
[56:34.960 --> 56:35.960]  Okay.
[56:35.960 --> 56:36.960]  Okay.
[56:36.960 --> 56:37.960]  Okay.
[56:37.960 --> 56:38.960]  Bye-bye.
[56:38.960 --> 56:39.960]  Bye-bye.
[56:39.960 --> 56:40.960]  Okay.
[56:40.960 --> 56:41.960]  Now we're going to Roger in Wisconsin.
[56:41.960 --> 56:42.960]  Hello, Roger.
[56:42.960 --> 56:43.960]  What do you have for us today?
[56:43.960 --> 56:44.960]  Yes.
[56:44.960 --> 56:48.640]  Hi, Randy and Brad.
[56:48.640 --> 56:59.600]  Thank you guys for the education because your show goes beyond a regular courtroom action.
[56:59.600 --> 57:04.240]  And I took on a telecommunications giant.
[57:04.240 --> 57:10.320]  And if you recall, I called in at the last part of the show asking about the recorded
[57:10.320 --> 57:19.840]  conversation two-way and, Brad, thank you for your quick research on the subject and
[57:19.840 --> 57:28.760]  finding that 11 states do not allow it, if you recall that.
[57:28.760 --> 57:32.160]  Yeah, I vaguely do.
[57:32.160 --> 57:35.880]  Looking at two-party versus one-party states, yeah.
[57:35.880 --> 57:37.880]  Yes, exactly.
[57:37.880 --> 57:46.080]  And what it was was I was a new customer and responding to a promotional deal.
[57:46.080 --> 57:54.680]  And it was like I got bounced around by customer service and then put on hold and then, oh,
[57:54.680 --> 57:55.680]  wait a minute.
[57:55.680 --> 57:56.680]  Wait a minute.
[57:56.680 --> 57:57.680]  I need to put you on hold.
[57:57.680 --> 57:58.680]  That's my luck, yeah.
[57:58.680 --> 57:59.680]  Okay.
[57:59.680 --> 58:00.680]  Funny.
[58:00.680 --> 58:09.080]  Don't check your watch.
[58:09.080 --> 58:11.680]  This could be a while.
[58:11.680 --> 58:16.480]  That was a little bit soon, but I couldn't resist it doing it.
[58:16.480 --> 58:19.400]  I see John from New York's on.
[58:19.400 --> 58:22.560]  I see you there, John, and we won't forget about you.
[58:22.560 --> 58:25.960]  This is Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Hulu Law Radio.
[58:25.960 --> 58:30.720]  Our call-in number, 512-646-1984.
[58:30.720 --> 58:33.560]  We got two callers and a full hour.
[58:33.560 --> 58:36.560]  So if you have a question or comment, give us a call.
[58:36.560 --> 58:37.560]  Hang on.
[58:37.560 --> 58:41.240]  We'll be right back in about 10 seconds.
[58:41.240 --> 58:43.240]  Brett, save me here.
[58:43.240 --> 58:50.400]  Well, that was really good with Tina.
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[01:04:12.480 --> 01:04:29.480]  Okay, we are back on this third hour of our four hour info marathon on this 21st day of April 2023.
[01:04:29.480 --> 01:04:43.480]  And we're talking to Roger in Wisconsin. Okay, Roger, where were we? You were taking on this internet company?
[01:04:43.480 --> 01:04:49.480]  Well, yeah, they also have internet. It's a telecommunications giant with the mobile phone.
[01:04:49.480 --> 01:04:56.480]  And I was a new customer responding to a promotion that didn't pan out too well at all.
[01:04:56.480 --> 01:05:05.480]  And I was in dispute and going through the customer service hoops, jumping through hoops.
[01:05:05.480 --> 01:05:08.480]  And they would put you on hold and transfer you.
[01:05:08.480 --> 01:05:21.480]  But persistence pays and also listening to rule of law paid pertaining to that issue with the two-way recording,
[01:05:21.480 --> 01:05:26.480]  whether it be legal in certain states and not in others.
[01:05:26.480 --> 01:05:34.480]  And you guys confirmed it. And I brought that to their attention.
[01:05:34.480 --> 01:05:38.480]  And they were digging in their heels.
[01:05:38.480 --> 01:05:45.480]  I got bounced around from different states and departments and customer retention specialists.
[01:05:45.480 --> 01:05:58.480]  And then finally, one guy that was higher up there had power to override, which nobody they state does.
[01:05:58.480 --> 01:06:10.480]  But I explained, I said, well, he asked, could you prove that this former upon your signing up for this plan or whatever,
[01:06:10.480 --> 01:06:17.480]  that you canceled or whatever? And I said, well, yeah, I would have to have had the recording,
[01:06:17.480 --> 01:06:23.480]  which could be illegal in some of the states that I was transferred to.
[01:06:23.480 --> 01:06:31.480]  So with that, he goes, OK, I'll call you back or whatever, so like the next day or whatever.
[01:06:31.480 --> 01:06:46.480]  And they gave me a very favorable and they kept me as a customer and gave me a very favorable plan and waved a whole bunch of fees and whatever.
[01:06:46.480 --> 01:06:53.480]  And I'd like to thank you guys for that education.
[01:06:53.480 --> 01:07:03.480]  Not only in a courtroom, it's also used far and beyond. And that is that is good to hear.
[01:07:03.480 --> 01:07:09.480]  This is this is why we do the show is to empower the public.
[01:07:09.480 --> 01:07:22.480]  Exactly. And I also wish to extend again the invitation to Joe Baker's remedy report for you and Brett and Deborah again.
[01:07:22.480 --> 01:07:28.480]  And I'll send you an email or details if you wish or accept.
[01:07:28.480 --> 01:07:39.480]  Joe Baker's remedy report. Yeah, he was fantastic.
[01:07:39.480 --> 01:07:44.480]  Do you recognize that, Brett? That doesn't sound familiar yet.
[01:07:44.480 --> 01:07:50.480]  Is this something that we've discussed before and I've just forgotten?
[01:07:50.480 --> 01:08:00.480]  Well, I think I extended an invitation the last time, but Eddie Craig was on and fantastic, amazing show we had with him.
[01:08:00.480 --> 01:08:06.480]  And I'd like to have him on again as well, if you could relay that.
[01:08:06.480 --> 01:08:20.480]  And all you guys either either singularly or all together, you know, would even like to get Edward G.
[01:08:20.480 --> 01:08:27.480]  Edward Griffin on again again. Edward Griffin.
[01:08:27.480 --> 01:08:37.480]  I haven't seen him in years. Yeah, he's fantastic creature. Yeah, we we did a seminar together in Austin.
[01:08:37.480 --> 01:08:54.480]  Oh, probably 10 years ago. Yes, I think I think he might have been in New Mexico as well when we did a seminar out there with Dr. Graves.
[01:08:54.480 --> 01:08:57.480]  Yeah, Al Capoco.
[01:08:57.480 --> 01:09:01.480]  Joe interviewed him in Al Capoco.
[01:09:01.480 --> 01:09:08.480]  Summoner, a financial seminar, Bitcoin or something.
[01:09:08.480 --> 01:09:11.480]  OK, Joe Baker.
[01:09:11.480 --> 01:09:16.480]  Remedy report. Yeah, Joe Baker report.
[01:09:16.480 --> 01:09:21.480]  If he's interested, ask him to send me an email.
[01:09:21.480 --> 01:09:24.480]  Yes, I will. I certainly will.
[01:09:24.480 --> 01:09:31.480]  And and Brett also and Deborah, we sent one to Deborah already.
[01:09:31.480 --> 01:09:35.480]  I think I thought we sent one to you, but that's OK.
[01:09:35.480 --> 01:09:40.480]  We'll we'll get you you guys individually.
[01:09:40.480 --> 01:09:44.480]  I've got the name. I'll check my email, see if it's in there.
[01:09:44.480 --> 01:09:55.480]  OK, oh, great, great. And also, you know, it occurred to me that based on what you spoke about tonight.
[01:09:55.480 --> 01:10:04.480]  With attorneys and then I remembered years ago at 321 LaSalle, you should be familiar with that, right?
[01:10:04.480 --> 01:10:09.480]  Well, I'm familiar with downtown LaSalle Street.
[01:10:09.480 --> 01:10:15.480]  I don't remember what I don't remember what's at 321.
[01:10:15.480 --> 01:10:20.480]  Traffic court. Oh, OK.
[01:10:20.480 --> 01:10:26.480]  Been there. It's been it's been 40 years since I was in Chicago.
[01:10:26.480 --> 01:10:32.480]  Were you born and raised in Texas and then went to Chicago and then back to Texas because you got.
[01:10:32.480 --> 01:10:36.480]  No, I was born in Tennessee.
[01:10:36.480 --> 01:10:41.480]  Oh, OK, that's where your accent is from then.
[01:10:41.480 --> 01:10:47.480]  We say that again. Your accent, you have like a.
[01:10:47.480 --> 01:10:54.480]  I don't I couldn't tell what it was a cowboy. Well, I'm not a multilingual.
[01:10:54.480 --> 01:11:09.480]  I speak Hillebilly, Yankee and Texan, Redneck. And a basic refusal in Chicago, just those and done.
[01:11:09.480 --> 01:11:16.480]  That's funny. And the first story I was wondering, was it a rainbow trout at all?
[01:11:16.480 --> 01:11:23.480]  Because we were on a bus one time. Oh, it might have been.
[01:11:23.480 --> 01:11:28.480]  Yeah, that one. That was bad.
[01:11:28.480 --> 01:11:35.480]  I was standing by the curb and some guys got his head out the window of the bus staring at me.
[01:11:35.480 --> 01:11:42.480]  And I stared back at him. He got up to me and he stuck out this huge fish, hit me upside the head with it,
[01:11:42.480 --> 01:11:48.480]  knocked me clean off my feet. And man, it was nasty smell.
[01:11:48.480 --> 01:11:56.480]  Could you tell if it was a rainbow trout? Because it might have been two friends of mine that were out.
[01:11:56.480 --> 01:12:01.480]  They were laughing about something. And then I'm like, well, what are you laughing about?
[01:12:01.480 --> 01:12:05.480]  You know, I distinctively remember that.
[01:12:05.480 --> 01:12:12.480]  So when you told that story, I'm like, was it done, you know, the northwest side there?
[01:12:12.480 --> 01:12:21.480]  It was on the northwest side. It might have been them guys. I'm sorry.
[01:12:21.480 --> 01:12:29.480]  You know, I can't see who else would. If those are the two guys, tell them I'm looking for them.
[01:12:29.480 --> 01:12:35.480]  Oh, yeah. Well, I don't even know. I know one of them isn't around anymore,
[01:12:35.480 --> 01:12:42.480]  but the other guy, maybe I could possibly get a hold of them out.
[01:12:42.480 --> 01:12:49.480]  I got a kick out of that story, though. That was funny. Thank you.
[01:12:49.480 --> 01:12:55.480]  It was funny years later. It wasn't so funny at the time.
[01:12:55.480 --> 01:13:02.480]  I wound up sitting on my butt on the sidewalk that's smelling like a dead fish.
[01:13:02.480 --> 01:13:09.480]  It was a CTA bus, right? Yes, it was a CTA electric bus.
[01:13:09.480 --> 01:13:15.480]  They had electric buses in those days. Yeah, yeah.
[01:13:15.480 --> 01:13:23.480]  That wasn't us then. That was, gosh, that was what, in the 60s?
[01:13:23.480 --> 01:13:27.480]  You guys were too young. Yeah, it was back in the 60s. Yeah.
[01:13:27.480 --> 01:13:37.480]  This would have been about 66, 67. Yeah, no, this was a diesel job.
[01:13:37.480 --> 01:13:47.480]  But the attorney that I had, he was a high pollutant attorney that used to be a chief of the state's attorney's office.
[01:13:47.480 --> 01:13:51.480]  And I was his mechanic on the Porsches and Mercedes and stuff.
[01:13:51.480 --> 01:14:05.480]  He was a race car driver as well. But I remember he went to 321 for me for like, I got five tickets by a captain's son.
[01:14:05.480 --> 01:14:15.480]  And he walked up to the judge, and I remember distinctively USC, although I had no idea what he was talking about.
[01:14:15.480 --> 01:14:18.480]  He rattled off something, and I just remembered USC.
[01:14:18.480 --> 01:14:33.480]  And then when I heard you guys mention that on the show, 20 years later, even longer maybe, it dawned on me what actually was going on.
[01:14:33.480 --> 01:14:38.480]  And he actually got a standing ovation at 321 Lucille.
[01:14:38.480 --> 01:14:45.480]  And everyone was asking me for his card, and he gave me a bunch of cards to hand out to people.
[01:14:45.480 --> 01:15:03.480]  And that's kind of like a secret weapon with these attorneys that are in the know about that stuff pertaining to whereas it's not a commercial vehicle, it's a passenger car.
[01:15:03.480 --> 01:15:13.480]  And the officer apparently had no right to pull a person in a passenger car over to begin with.
[01:15:13.480 --> 01:15:21.480]  Yeah, we kind of argue that. Eddie does it more than we do. He takes on traffic almost exclusively.
[01:15:21.480 --> 01:15:27.480]  Right, right. Yeah, he's amazing. He really is.
[01:15:27.480 --> 01:15:31.480]  Okay, we do need to move on. We've got a couple more callers.
[01:15:31.480 --> 01:15:36.480]  Well, thanks for taking my call, and I'll send you the emails then.
[01:15:36.480 --> 01:15:42.480]  Okay, thank you, Roger. Okay, now we're going to John in Texas.
[01:15:42.480 --> 01:15:47.480]  No, John in New York. Hello, John.
[01:15:47.480 --> 01:15:50.480]  This is Yankee John.
[01:15:50.480 --> 01:15:55.480]  Southern drawl, because I'm in Texas.
[01:15:55.480 --> 01:15:58.480]  Don't do that, John.
[01:15:58.480 --> 01:16:02.480]  That's a bad southern drawl. I need to practice.
[01:16:02.480 --> 01:16:04.480]  You need more practice.
[01:16:04.480 --> 01:16:07.480]  I need to practice on my southern drawl.
[01:16:07.480 --> 01:16:16.480]  Well, remember at one point I had asked you about the grass police.
[01:16:16.480 --> 01:16:21.480]  Oh, Jerry in Pennsylvania.
[01:16:21.480 --> 01:16:23.480]  Huh?
[01:16:23.480 --> 01:16:34.480]  Jerry in Pennsylvania, he got the grass police charged with criminal trespass for coming on his property to photograph the weeds.
[01:16:34.480 --> 01:16:41.480]  In the Fed, he got them zapped.
[01:16:41.480 --> 01:16:48.480]  Okay, I'm afraid your time is up, John. We gave you your shot.
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[01:19:50.480 --> 01:19:52.480]  Okay, John.
[01:19:52.480 --> 01:19:53.480]  All right.
[01:19:53.480 --> 01:19:55.480]  Got your marching orders.
[01:19:55.480 --> 01:19:58.480]  Okay, gotcha.
[01:19:58.480 --> 01:20:05.480]  I asked you about the grass police and then you had mentioned about whether the state
[01:20:05.480 --> 01:20:08.480]  has these laws in place.
[01:20:08.480 --> 01:20:14.480]  So I called the grass police, which is like asking the fox to guard the hen house, but
[01:20:14.480 --> 01:20:16.480]  you know how that is.
[01:20:16.480 --> 01:20:20.480]  But I thought it would be interesting to ask them if there were state laws or if they were
[01:20:20.480 --> 01:20:27.480]  local laws that they went by to observe the code, whether, you know, how long your grass
[01:20:27.480 --> 01:20:32.480]  is and your bushes and how your yard has to be and so on.
[01:20:32.480 --> 01:20:39.480]  And they said that New York State has the code in their state laws.
[01:20:39.480 --> 01:20:45.480]  And right away I said, well, if that's true, then they've got jurisdiction or, you know,
[01:20:45.480 --> 01:20:49.480]  they've got the authority to tell you how long you can mow your grass.
[01:20:49.480 --> 01:20:54.480]  They said that the state laws are a little more lax and the local laws were a little
[01:20:54.480 --> 01:20:57.480]  bit more stringent.
[01:20:57.480 --> 01:21:02.480]  Like in the, in the state law, I think they quoted like 10 inches or 12 inches, your grass
[01:21:02.480 --> 01:21:04.480]  has to be below that.
[01:21:04.480 --> 01:21:08.480]  And in the local, it's got to be six inches or less.
[01:21:08.480 --> 01:21:11.480]  So anyway, so that's what they told me.
[01:21:11.480 --> 01:21:18.480]  And so according to that, but I don't take their word for it because they, you know,
[01:21:18.480 --> 01:21:19.480]  authorities lie all the time.
[01:21:19.480 --> 01:21:24.480]  Cops lie about laws, judges make up things from the bench.
[01:21:24.480 --> 01:21:25.480]  Okay, hold on.
[01:21:25.480 --> 01:21:26.480]  Hold on.
[01:21:26.480 --> 01:21:29.480]  What is your, your question about?
[01:21:29.480 --> 01:21:36.480]  Is it about how tall the grass is or is it about whether these are actually laws or not?
[01:21:36.480 --> 01:21:37.480]  That's right.
[01:21:37.480 --> 01:21:38.480]  Now, where would I look?
[01:21:38.480 --> 01:21:44.480]  I've tried to look up in New York State if there are any of these laws and it's one big
[01:21:44.480 --> 01:21:45.480]  jumble.
[01:21:45.480 --> 01:21:48.480]  Okay, here's the deal.
[01:21:48.480 --> 01:21:52.480]  I can almost assure you they're not laws.
[01:21:52.480 --> 01:21:54.480]  They're ordinances.
[01:21:54.480 --> 01:21:55.480]  Okay.
[01:21:55.480 --> 01:21:59.480]  Yeah, but they said it was done in the state.
[01:21:59.480 --> 01:22:04.480]  They said the state legislature.
[01:22:04.480 --> 01:22:10.480]  Because they said it doesn't make it so if that's the case, it's the only state I've
[01:22:10.480 --> 01:22:17.480]  ever heard of where the legislature gets into passing laws about how tall your grass could
[01:22:17.480 --> 01:22:18.480]  be.
[01:22:18.480 --> 01:22:19.480]  Ah, okay.
[01:22:19.480 --> 01:22:26.480]  See, I didn't, I heard what he said and I took him at his word temporarily.
[01:22:26.480 --> 01:22:34.480]  He probably did not understand the difference between a law and a ordinance.
[01:22:34.480 --> 01:22:35.480]  That's right.
[01:22:35.480 --> 01:22:38.480]  So he just lumped them all in with law.
[01:22:38.480 --> 01:22:39.480]  Yeah.
[01:22:39.480 --> 01:22:42.480]  So you need to check and see these codes.
[01:22:42.480 --> 01:22:49.480]  There are a set of universal codes and most jurisdictions adopt them.
[01:22:49.480 --> 01:22:56.880]  There's universal building code, universal electric code, plumbing code, and most all
[01:22:56.880 --> 01:22:59.480]  jurisdictions adopt them, but they're not laws.
[01:22:59.480 --> 01:23:00.480]  Right.
[01:23:00.480 --> 01:23:06.480]  This is not something the legislature gets into.
[01:23:06.480 --> 01:23:12.480]  These are ordinances and they don't call them ordinances by mistake.
[01:23:12.480 --> 01:23:17.720]  They can't call them laws because if they were called laws, they would have to be passed
[01:23:17.720 --> 01:23:20.480]  by the legislature and for the most part they're not.
[01:23:20.480 --> 01:23:30.400]  Now, it could be that the legislature adopted the universal codes, but I have never heard
[01:23:30.400 --> 01:23:31.400]  of that occurring.
[01:23:31.400 --> 01:23:38.520]  If that's the case, then when they say it's a law, it's not.
[01:23:38.520 --> 01:23:43.960]  And they have no right, they have, what do they call it, no authority or no jurisdiction
[01:23:43.960 --> 01:23:46.640]  or...
[01:23:46.640 --> 01:23:55.200]  If they are ordinances and they were passed by local jurisdictions, our argument is only
[01:23:55.200 --> 01:24:00.960]  the legislature has the authority to write law that affect the people.
[01:24:00.960 --> 01:24:01.960]  That's right.
[01:24:01.960 --> 01:24:02.960]  That's correct.
[01:24:02.960 --> 01:24:13.400]  Now, local jurisdictions, they can pass ordinances, but those ordinances can only apply to someone
[01:24:13.400 --> 01:24:21.120]  who is in contractual privity with the jurisdiction wherein they have agreed to the statutory
[01:24:21.120 --> 01:24:30.440]  scheme or someone who is employed by the jurisdiction or they've also agreed to the statutory scheme.
[01:24:30.440 --> 01:24:38.640]  If they apply the ordinances to the general public, then it has the effect of law and
[01:24:38.640 --> 01:24:42.480]  only the legislature can pass law.
[01:24:42.480 --> 01:24:52.640]  We filed that with the court of appeals here in Texas and they didn't rule on it.
[01:24:52.640 --> 01:25:00.680]  We filed a petition for writ of mandamus and they found another reason to grant us our
[01:25:00.680 --> 01:25:01.680]  mandamus.
[01:25:01.680 --> 01:25:07.920]  It actually was a motion to challenge the subject matter jurisdiction in the form of
[01:25:07.920 --> 01:25:10.400]  a mandamus.
[01:25:10.400 --> 01:25:16.720]  And they found a different reason to dismiss the case rather than the issue that we brought
[01:25:16.720 --> 01:25:23.320]  up because they didn't want to risk the other side challenging their opinion and getting
[01:25:23.320 --> 01:25:29.600]  this to the Supreme because if the Supreme ruled against them, all the ordinances in
[01:25:29.600 --> 01:25:31.720]  the state go in the trash can.
[01:25:31.720 --> 01:25:32.720]  Right.
[01:25:32.720 --> 01:25:35.720]  They didn't want to establish a precedent for that.
[01:25:35.720 --> 01:25:37.760]  Is that an accurate way to say it?
[01:25:37.760 --> 01:25:38.760]  Exactly.
[01:25:38.760 --> 01:25:45.440]  Well, they didn't want to risk the Supreme Court saying that these ordinances cannot
[01:25:45.440 --> 01:25:48.200]  apply to the general public.
[01:25:48.200 --> 01:25:49.200]  Right.
[01:25:49.200 --> 01:25:51.200]  Absent agreement.
[01:25:51.200 --> 01:25:52.200]  Right.
[01:25:52.200 --> 01:25:53.200]  Okay.
[01:25:53.200 --> 01:25:54.200]  So...
[01:25:54.200 --> 01:26:03.000]  They'll check to see if they're called ordinances or laws and if they call them laws, who passed
[01:26:03.000 --> 01:26:05.520]  those laws?
[01:26:05.520 --> 01:26:11.360]  If that's the case, then they don't have the authority to do what they're doing.
[01:26:11.360 --> 01:26:12.360]  That's right.
[01:26:12.360 --> 01:26:20.920]  That doesn't mean that if they do that, public officials exert authority they don't have
[01:26:20.920 --> 01:26:21.920]  all the time.
[01:26:21.920 --> 01:26:22.920]  That's nothing new.
[01:26:22.920 --> 01:26:23.920]  Oh, that's old hat.
[01:26:23.920 --> 01:26:24.920]  Yeah.
[01:26:24.920 --> 01:26:25.920]  That happens all the time.
[01:26:25.920 --> 01:26:26.920]  Sure.
[01:26:26.920 --> 01:26:27.920]  All right.
[01:26:27.920 --> 01:26:40.560]  So, it is likely then that New York State does not have laws about how the grass is
[01:26:40.560 --> 01:26:43.760]  supposed to grow and how long it's supposed to be.
[01:26:43.760 --> 01:26:49.120]  Now, where would I find those if they do exist?
[01:26:49.120 --> 01:26:50.120]  How do I find them?
[01:26:50.120 --> 01:26:51.120]  Because I...
[01:26:51.120 --> 01:26:57.400]  Go to the county and ask the county if they have a set of ordinances.
[01:26:57.400 --> 01:26:58.400]  Uh-huh.
[01:26:58.400 --> 01:27:04.400]  Because these are called ordinances, not laws.
[01:27:04.400 --> 01:27:10.800]  So, and then go to local municipality and ask if they have a set of ordinances.
[01:27:10.800 --> 01:27:11.800]  Right.
[01:27:11.800 --> 01:27:16.760]  Wouldn't they be called code?
[01:27:16.760 --> 01:27:20.040]  I think they refer to them as code.
[01:27:20.040 --> 01:27:29.520]  Well, whatever they refer to them as, ask them, was this passed by the council or the
[01:27:29.520 --> 01:27:32.880]  commissioner's court or was it passed by the legislature?
[01:27:32.880 --> 01:27:33.880]  Right.
[01:27:33.880 --> 01:27:34.880]  Who passed it?
[01:27:34.880 --> 01:27:35.880]  Okay.
[01:27:35.880 --> 01:27:36.880]  All right.
[01:27:36.880 --> 01:27:37.880]  And where do I go?
[01:27:37.880 --> 01:27:38.880]  I go to the county?
[01:27:38.880 --> 01:27:39.880]  The county clerk?
[01:27:39.880 --> 01:27:40.880]  Yeah.
[01:27:40.880 --> 01:27:41.880]  Is that it?
[01:27:41.880 --> 01:27:42.880]  Yeah.
[01:27:42.880 --> 01:27:43.880]  Yeah.
[01:27:43.880 --> 01:27:44.880]  Go to the county clerk.
[01:27:44.880 --> 01:27:45.880]  She can send you to the right place.
[01:27:45.880 --> 01:27:51.880]  And then go to a city and ask the city if their city council passes their own ordinances.
[01:27:51.880 --> 01:27:52.880]  Right.
[01:27:52.880 --> 01:27:53.880]  All right.
[01:27:53.880 --> 01:27:54.880]  Got it.
[01:27:54.880 --> 01:27:55.880]  Okay.
[01:27:55.880 --> 01:27:56.880]  City council.
[01:27:56.880 --> 01:27:57.880]  Okay.
[01:27:57.880 --> 01:27:58.880]  Go.
[01:27:58.880 --> 01:28:03.880]  Anything else?
[01:28:03.880 --> 01:28:06.880]  We've got a minute and a half.
[01:28:06.880 --> 01:28:07.880]  Okay.
[01:28:07.880 --> 01:28:10.880]  Minute and a half.
[01:28:10.880 --> 01:28:18.200]  Well, they just, I'll just reiterate what I said last night a little bit and I'll try
[01:28:18.200 --> 01:28:22.240]  to find everything in writing to send you an email.
[01:28:22.240 --> 01:28:31.640]  What it boils down to is in 2009, there was supposedly a swine flu epidemic, but there
[01:28:31.640 --> 01:28:33.240]  really wasn't.
[01:28:33.240 --> 01:28:36.520]  The CDC quit counting cases.
[01:28:36.520 --> 01:28:44.200]  Cheryl Atkinson, our investigative reporter for CBS News, came upon that information and
[01:28:44.200 --> 01:28:46.240]  wondered what the heck is going on?
[01:28:46.240 --> 01:28:50.520]  That's the CDC's primary role, to count diseases.
[01:28:50.520 --> 01:28:53.000]  And they stopped counting swine flu cases.
[01:28:53.000 --> 01:28:59.040]  Then she did a little digging and found out that there were no swine flu cases.
[01:28:59.040 --> 01:29:04.600]  And then later on, Med Something or other, Medline or something, Med Something, published
[01:29:04.600 --> 01:29:10.280]  a story that 22 million cases of swine flu were in the US alone.
[01:29:10.280 --> 01:29:17.320]  And the CDC was getting ready to flex their muscles and do a vaccine for the swine flu.
[01:29:17.320 --> 01:29:22.880]  Well, Cheryl, in the meantime, doesn't work for CBS anymore, I guess she lost her job.
[01:29:22.880 --> 01:29:28.480]  CBS News okayed the first story and they put it on the internet.
[01:29:28.480 --> 01:29:34.600]  And then when it really counts on the TV nightly news, they said, no, we're not doing that.
[01:29:34.600 --> 01:29:38.720]  And she ended up looking for another network, so I think she lost her job over it.
[01:29:38.720 --> 01:29:44.040]  In other words, it was a fraudulent pandemic and they got caught with their pants down
[01:29:44.040 --> 01:29:46.040]  in the CDC deal.
[01:29:46.040 --> 01:29:47.440]  Okay.
[01:29:47.440 --> 01:29:48.440]  Thank you, John.
[01:29:48.440 --> 01:29:49.440]  Time's up.
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[01:33:24.760 --> 01:33:51.800]  Okay, we are back to Reed Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio, and we were going to go
[01:33:51.800 --> 01:33:59.840]  to Hannah, but Hannah just dropped off the board, Hannah, you dropped off once before,
[01:33:59.840 --> 01:34:05.360]  so we'll hang on a bit to see if hopefully she'll call right back.
[01:34:05.360 --> 01:34:06.360]  Tina.
[01:34:06.360 --> 01:34:08.360]  Oh, there you go.
[01:34:08.360 --> 01:34:10.840]  I was wondering if you bumped her off the board.
[01:34:10.840 --> 01:34:11.840]  Here she is.
[01:34:11.840 --> 01:34:14.080]  We got Hannah back.
[01:34:14.080 --> 01:34:15.080]  Okay.
[01:34:15.080 --> 01:34:18.000]  Hello, Hannah.
[01:34:18.000 --> 01:34:20.240]  What do you have for us today?
[01:34:20.240 --> 01:34:27.280]  Yeah, sorry, I don't know what's going on with my internet, it's been super weird the
[01:34:27.280 --> 01:34:31.880]  last 20 minutes since I started listening to you guys.
[01:34:31.880 --> 01:34:39.480]  Well, when I have problems with my internet, I generally pray about it.
[01:34:39.480 --> 01:34:41.040]  You worry about it?
[01:34:41.040 --> 01:34:43.720]  No, I pray about it.
[01:34:43.720 --> 01:34:45.680]  Oh, yes.
[01:34:45.680 --> 01:34:46.680]  Yeah.
[01:34:46.680 --> 01:34:50.160]  Okay, he's, Brett doesn't want me to pray about it.
[01:34:50.160 --> 01:34:51.160]  Okay.
[01:34:51.160 --> 01:35:04.240]  No, I was just wondering if you guys have ever heard of a sheriff's return on an annexed
[01:35:04.240 --> 01:35:06.240]  writ of restitution?
[01:35:06.240 --> 01:35:07.240]  Yes.
[01:35:07.240 --> 01:35:08.240]  Yeah?
[01:35:08.240 --> 01:35:19.360]  Yes, I have, the sheriff is, gets a real restitution, he's supposed to get property to the person
[01:35:19.360 --> 01:35:24.920]  who belongs to, and he gets it signed and he takes the return back to the court to show
[01:35:24.920 --> 01:35:28.640]  that the person's property was restituted.
[01:35:28.640 --> 01:35:39.720]  Correct, right, but is it always then when he returns it, files it in the court, it becomes
[01:35:39.720 --> 01:35:42.480]  annexed?
[01:35:42.480 --> 01:35:45.480]  It becomes what?
[01:35:45.480 --> 01:35:47.480]  Annexed.
[01:35:47.480 --> 01:35:55.760]  I'm not sure what you mean by annexed, it's filed in a case, so it becomes a part of the
[01:35:55.760 --> 01:35:56.760]  case.
[01:35:56.760 --> 01:36:09.640]  Right, so in my unlawful detainer that happened in November, I've been slowly getting back
[01:36:09.640 --> 01:36:19.080]  records requests, and one of them is the sheriff's return on the writ of restitution, but in the
[01:36:19.080 --> 01:36:30.280]  actual document, the sheriff states that he does hereby certify and return that the annexed
[01:36:30.280 --> 01:36:37.440]  writ of restitution and request for storage of personal property, yada, yada, yada, but
[01:36:37.440 --> 01:36:46.520]  he calls it annexed, the annexed writ.
[01:36:46.520 --> 01:36:52.440]  I'm not sure what that means, that would be specific to Washington.
[01:36:52.440 --> 01:36:55.040]  Can you look that up, Brett, while we're yacking here?
[01:36:55.040 --> 01:36:57.360]  Yeah, I'm not familiar with that either.
[01:36:57.360 --> 01:37:15.240]  I'm just wondering if it speaks to an annexed city, or what do they call it?
[01:37:15.240 --> 01:37:22.840]  I'm thinking he's calling it annexed to the case, and that sounds like just an odd turn
[01:37:22.840 --> 01:37:30.200]  of phrase, because normally you don't call that annexing something to the case, he's
[01:37:30.200 --> 01:37:39.680]  just calling it filing it into the case, unless there's something else they do with a return
[01:37:39.680 --> 01:37:46.680]  on a writ of restitution, but I can't imagine what that is, all that is is a receipt.
[01:37:46.680 --> 01:38:01.080]  And do you think it could somehow speak to that county being annexed, or the city?
[01:38:01.080 --> 01:38:04.080]  No.
[01:38:04.080 --> 01:38:14.120]  It's just interesting, the city where this happened was in Everett, Washington, which
[01:38:14.120 --> 01:38:24.160]  is in Nahomish County, but when I was putting in records requests for like the deed and
[01:38:24.160 --> 01:38:36.680]  title and whatever on the house, I sent it to Nahomish County, and they told me that
[01:38:36.680 --> 01:38:54.640]  I had to go to the Everett and ask them, because it was in an area that was unincorporated
[01:38:54.640 --> 01:39:02.880]  from Nahomish County, it was really weird, because then when I sent the same request
[01:39:02.880 --> 01:39:12.280]  to the city of Everett, they said the exact same thing that I had to go to Nahomish County
[01:39:12.280 --> 01:39:24.560]  to find those records, and after even more digging the district or division that I was
[01:39:24.560 --> 01:39:39.040]  living in, they had it as international zip code, because it's right in the port of Everett,
[01:39:39.040 --> 01:39:50.600]  which it was supposed to be the capital of Washington, but ended up being Olympia.
[01:39:50.600 --> 01:39:55.600]  Is the port of Everett on the border, like with Canada?
[01:39:55.600 --> 01:40:07.920]  No, but it's surrounded by three sides of water, or like a peninsula.
[01:40:07.920 --> 01:40:14.480]  Still, it would be Washington State, so I don't understand why would it say international
[01:40:14.480 --> 01:40:15.480]  zip code.
[01:40:15.480 --> 01:40:16.480]  What's that about?
[01:40:16.480 --> 01:40:37.440]  That's kind of where I was confused, because it ends up going into... What is it?
[01:40:37.440 --> 01:40:42.640]  Aren't all zip codes essentially effective internationally?
[01:40:42.640 --> 01:40:48.920]  What does international zip code mean?
[01:40:48.920 --> 01:41:06.760]  I guess I was assuming it was because of international waters, and if you're surrounded by three
[01:41:06.760 --> 01:41:15.840]  sides, your peninsula, but if it's right, essentially, into the ocean and...
[01:41:15.840 --> 01:41:21.200]  Yeah, but it doesn't matter how much water is around it.
[01:41:21.200 --> 01:41:26.680]  If it's part of the state, it's part of the state.
[01:41:26.680 --> 01:41:27.680]  It could be an island.
[01:41:27.680 --> 01:41:35.760]  It could be like a Hawaii, a string of islands, but that doesn't affect anything about the
[01:41:35.760 --> 01:41:40.440]  service of process or execution of a writ.
[01:41:40.440 --> 01:41:44.200]  I looked up international zip code.
[01:41:44.200 --> 01:41:49.040]  I can't find a definition of it.
[01:41:49.040 --> 01:42:07.400]  Yeah, again, it's the only one that is labeled or categorized like that, which is just weird
[01:42:07.400 --> 01:42:19.720]  to me, but I mean, there's other cities in Washington that are unincorporated or incorporated
[01:42:19.720 --> 01:42:20.720]  or even...
[01:42:20.720 --> 01:42:27.600]  Okay, that peninsula, is that peninsula part of the port?
[01:42:27.600 --> 01:42:29.120]  Yes.
[01:42:29.120 --> 01:42:37.520]  In that peninsula, if it's part of the port, some of the only lands in the United States
[01:42:37.520 --> 01:42:47.720]  that have been ceded to the federal government are federal prisons and ports.
[01:42:47.720 --> 01:42:55.040]  That might be a national zip code, not an international zip code, because that portion
[01:42:55.040 --> 01:43:01.720]  of the peninsula is probably in the United States.
[01:43:01.720 --> 01:43:03.680]  Okay.
[01:43:03.680 --> 01:43:12.960]  It's like, remember the movie, The Presidio?
[01:43:12.960 --> 01:43:16.720]  The Presidio is a Marine base near San Diego.
[01:43:16.720 --> 01:43:23.320]  There's a movie with Sean Connery where someone was murdered on the Presidio.
[01:43:23.320 --> 01:43:28.800]  Well, the Presidio was an Army base, and it was not ceded to the federal government, so
[01:43:28.800 --> 01:43:33.680]  the local sheriff investigated the murder.
[01:43:33.680 --> 01:43:41.360]  If a murder occurred in a port or in a federal prison, then the federal police would handle
[01:43:41.360 --> 01:43:45.840]  that, because that is in the Fed.
[01:43:45.840 --> 01:43:50.040]  Hang on, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, we have a radio.
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[01:46:15.720 --> 01:46:44.200]  Okay, we are back for our last segment in our four-hour info marathon, and we're talking
[01:46:44.200 --> 01:46:52.240]  to Hannah in Washington, and Hannah, Brett and I talked over the break, and we have no
[01:46:52.240 --> 01:46:54.200]  idea what you're talking about.
[01:46:54.200 --> 01:46:55.200]  Okay.
[01:46:55.200 --> 01:47:02.200]  What's this all about?
[01:47:02.200 --> 01:47:18.120]  It just struck me as odd when I was reading the sheriff's return for the writ.
[01:47:18.120 --> 01:47:19.880]  Where was the property located?
[01:47:19.880 --> 01:47:29.680]  Was it located in a section that may have been annexed by this city or a county?
[01:47:29.680 --> 01:47:34.640]  I believe so.
[01:47:34.640 --> 01:47:42.000]  So the annex may be a reference to the property being annexed to some jurisdiction.
[01:47:42.000 --> 01:47:46.440]  So who annexed it?
[01:47:46.440 --> 01:47:53.120]  The county, I think.
[01:47:53.120 --> 01:48:01.240]  Honestly, I'm not 100%, but I had looked into it, and it's actually...they have a
[01:48:01.240 --> 01:48:18.040]  whole committee and a process for which residents can either petition to be annexed from a county.
[01:48:18.040 --> 01:48:20.480]  Oh, so you're not...
[01:48:20.480 --> 01:48:22.680]  What do you want to do about this?
[01:48:22.680 --> 01:48:23.760]  Is this your land?
[01:48:23.760 --> 01:48:29.320]  Are you like auditing their procedure or what's happening?
[01:48:29.320 --> 01:48:30.320]  I'm sorry.
[01:48:30.320 --> 01:48:31.320]  I didn't...
[01:48:31.320 --> 01:48:32.320]  No, no, no.
[01:48:32.320 --> 01:48:36.360]  If there was a writ of restitution, that means you were just evicted from some property.
[01:48:36.360 --> 01:48:37.360]  Is that correct?
[01:48:37.360 --> 01:48:38.360]  Correct.
[01:48:38.360 --> 01:48:41.360]  In November or October.
[01:48:41.360 --> 01:48:42.360]  Okay.
[01:48:42.360 --> 01:48:46.160]  Are you trying to recover the property?
[01:48:46.160 --> 01:48:49.160]  Essentially.
[01:48:49.160 --> 01:48:53.440]  Yes.
[01:48:53.440 --> 01:48:54.440]  Okay.
[01:48:54.440 --> 01:49:01.160]  So what is your plan to recover the property?
[01:49:01.160 --> 01:49:08.320]  I, from my...
[01:49:08.320 --> 01:49:13.240]  Well, let me back up and ask you a different question.
[01:49:13.240 --> 01:49:23.120]  Was the eviction based on a foreclosure or a rental?
[01:49:23.120 --> 01:49:26.120]  It was a rental.
[01:49:26.120 --> 01:49:30.680]  Wait, say that again?
[01:49:30.680 --> 01:49:32.160]  Oh, rental.
[01:49:32.160 --> 01:49:33.160]  Okay.
[01:49:33.160 --> 01:49:38.800]  So are you trying to...wishing to re-rent the property?
[01:49:38.800 --> 01:49:51.680]  Essentially, take title, take ownership of it because...
[01:49:51.680 --> 01:49:58.480]  How do you plan to do that?
[01:49:58.480 --> 01:50:08.560]  Because my fiance and I, we were caregiving for the lady who had the rental agreement
[01:50:08.560 --> 01:50:09.560]  in this house.
[01:50:09.560 --> 01:50:23.680]  And we were living in the house for over a year and she had acquired tenure.
[01:50:23.680 --> 01:50:35.080]  And the presumed landlord is actually not...through fraud and...
[01:50:35.080 --> 01:50:39.480]  Wait, wait a minute.
[01:50:39.480 --> 01:50:42.840]  Did you say she acquired a payer?
[01:50:42.840 --> 01:50:43.840]  No.
[01:50:43.840 --> 01:50:50.720]  She said acquired tenure.
[01:50:50.720 --> 01:51:07.400]  And the landlord, his deed that he filed that he claims gives him ownership is void.
[01:51:07.400 --> 01:51:11.360]  It's a fraud.
[01:51:11.360 --> 01:51:22.080]  Okay, well, how would you have standing to raise a claim?
[01:51:22.080 --> 01:51:38.520]  Because she had tenure and I had established residency as a occupant and she passed in
[01:51:38.520 --> 01:51:45.880]  the house leaving me and my fiance, the remaining occupant, so...
[01:51:45.880 --> 01:51:50.720]  Okay, you're calling yourself occupant and not renter.
[01:51:50.720 --> 01:51:57.640]  No, because we rented from him, from the landlord.
[01:51:57.640 --> 01:51:59.520]  We were caregiving.
[01:51:59.520 --> 01:52:01.520]  She was.
[01:52:01.520 --> 01:52:08.800]  Oh, okay, so you were caregivers for this person who passed?
[01:52:08.800 --> 01:52:11.800]  Correct.
[01:52:11.800 --> 01:52:16.400]  And you wanted to stay in the property after this person passed?
[01:52:16.400 --> 01:52:17.880]  Correct.
[01:52:17.880 --> 01:52:30.200]  And he...the landlord even was...he did applications for us.
[01:52:30.200 --> 01:52:37.680]  Did you have a contract that allowed you to stay in the property after the person for
[01:52:37.680 --> 01:52:41.440]  whom you were a caregiver passed?
[01:52:41.440 --> 01:52:47.040]  There was an oral agreement from him.
[01:52:47.040 --> 01:52:55.120]  Did the agreement grant you permanent residence?
[01:52:55.120 --> 01:53:08.960]  No, it was in the process of screening for it.
[01:53:08.960 --> 01:53:13.280]  Wait, that didn't make sense.
[01:53:13.280 --> 01:53:16.200]  In the process of screening for it?
[01:53:16.200 --> 01:53:17.200]  What does that mean?
[01:53:17.200 --> 01:53:27.360]  We were doing improvements on the house per his wishes.
[01:53:27.360 --> 01:53:38.000]  We were also...he was doing an application for us because we had expressed that we wanted
[01:53:38.000 --> 01:53:47.920]  to remain in the house and to take over the rental.
[01:53:47.920 --> 01:54:01.720]  And as we were clearing out the house of her belongings and doing the improvements, we
[01:54:01.720 --> 01:54:10.080]  had a very civil relationship and he was screening us.
[01:54:10.080 --> 01:54:11.080]  Okay.
[01:54:11.080 --> 01:54:19.480]  Did you have an agreement with the property owner or simply with the renter?
[01:54:19.480 --> 01:54:23.000]  So he is one and the same.
[01:54:23.000 --> 01:54:26.000]  He's claiming to be the property owner.
[01:54:26.000 --> 01:54:30.800]  No, no, no.
[01:54:30.800 --> 01:54:40.840]  The woman you were caring for or the person you were caring for, was that person renting
[01:54:40.840 --> 01:54:44.880]  this property or did that person own the property?
[01:54:44.880 --> 01:54:45.880]  She was renting.
[01:54:45.880 --> 01:54:50.040]  She had been for over 10 years.
[01:54:50.040 --> 01:54:51.040]  Okay.
[01:54:51.040 --> 01:54:57.720]  Did you have an agreement with the property owner or with the renter?
[01:54:57.720 --> 01:55:08.600]  With the renter and then when she passed with the property owner.
[01:55:08.600 --> 01:55:14.160]  What was the nature of the agreement with the property owner?
[01:55:14.160 --> 01:55:25.520]  To clear out the house of her belongings, make improvements, do maintenance painting,
[01:55:25.520 --> 01:55:30.360]  you know, ready the house for.
[01:55:30.360 --> 01:55:36.960]  So you were getting the house ready to rent out?
[01:55:36.960 --> 01:55:42.240]  Essentially and-
[01:55:42.240 --> 01:55:48.300]  How long did it take you to get the property ready?
[01:55:48.300 --> 01:55:51.200]  How long were we making improvements?
[01:55:51.200 --> 01:55:52.200]  Yes.
[01:55:52.200 --> 01:56:00.840]  Um, probably two to three months at least.
[01:56:00.840 --> 01:56:02.440]  Okay.
[01:56:02.440 --> 01:56:07.000]  Did you have, was it your intention to rent the property yourself?
[01:56:07.000 --> 01:56:08.000]  Yes.
[01:56:08.000 --> 01:56:12.600]  Me and my fiance, we wanted to.
[01:56:12.600 --> 01:56:13.600]  Okay.
[01:56:13.600 --> 01:56:17.960]  Did you put a down payment on it?
[01:56:17.960 --> 01:56:18.960]  No.
[01:56:18.960 --> 01:56:29.520]  Well, I'm trying to get to why you were evicted.
[01:56:29.520 --> 01:56:33.520]  Why did he evict you?
[01:56:33.520 --> 01:56:43.680]  Because he didn't want to pay us for our labor and said he-
[01:56:43.680 --> 01:56:47.520]  Did you sue him for that?
[01:56:47.520 --> 01:56:57.520]  That's what we are in the drafting of.
[01:56:57.520 --> 01:57:00.120]  Okay.
[01:57:00.120 --> 01:57:04.880]  It's, this sounds very confused.
[01:57:04.880 --> 01:57:09.120]  It is, yes, and I apologize.
[01:57:09.120 --> 01:57:12.920]  Have you filed suit?
[01:57:12.920 --> 01:57:16.400]  Not yet.
[01:57:16.400 --> 01:57:20.400]  And if you've already been evicted, it'll be almost impossible to force your way back
[01:57:20.400 --> 01:57:21.400]  in.
[01:57:21.400 --> 01:57:26.120]  You may be able to sue him for damages, but that's about it.
[01:57:26.120 --> 01:57:28.120]  Right.
[01:57:28.120 --> 01:57:42.560]  Um, I'm not planning on stemming from the eviction case.
[01:57:42.560 --> 01:57:44.680]  Okay.
[01:57:44.680 --> 01:57:49.040]  We are out of time to get this figured out.
[01:57:49.040 --> 01:57:58.320]  This is, you were coming up on the end of the show and it sounds like you were renting
[01:57:58.320 --> 01:58:03.440]  the property, fixing the property up so he could rent it.
[01:58:03.440 --> 01:58:08.880]  And then when you got to the point of renting it, uh, you wanted him to pay you for fixing
[01:58:08.880 --> 01:58:13.960]  it up, but you stayed there while you were fixing up the property.
[01:58:13.960 --> 01:58:16.640]  So that would have incurred a rental cost.
[01:58:16.640 --> 01:58:21.600]  It sounds like he's probably thinks this is evened out, but we are out of time.
[01:58:21.600 --> 01:58:24.680]  This is Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Root of Law Radio.
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