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[00:00.000 --> 00:05.440]  The Bill of Rights contains the first 10 amendments of our Constitution.
[00:05.440 --> 00:09.400]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[00:09.400 --> 00:10.880]  Our liberty depends on it.
[00:10.880 --> 00:14.800]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember
[00:14.800 --> 00:16.920]  your First Amendment rights.
[00:16.920 --> 00:18.520]  Privacy is under attack.
[00:18.520 --> 00:22.120]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[00:22.120 --> 00:26.880]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[00:26.880 --> 00:32.040]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
[00:32.040 --> 00:34.640]  Privacy, it's worth hanging on to.
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[00:44.800 --> 00:47.760]  Spar, it's what fighters do.
[00:47.760 --> 00:50.800]  It's also how I remember the five guarantees of the First Amendment.
[00:50.800 --> 00:54.440]  If you plan to take away my rights, I'm going to spar with you.
[00:54.440 --> 01:01.560]  Spar with an extra P, S for speech, P for press, another P for petition, A for assembly,
[01:01.560 --> 01:02.920]  and R for religion.
[01:02.920 --> 01:07.000]  Most Americans are familiar with the First Amendment guarantees of free speech, press,
[01:07.000 --> 01:10.840]  assembly, and religion, but petition for redress is another matter.
[01:10.840 --> 01:14.560]  We have the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
[01:14.560 --> 01:18.080]  It means that if we're unhappy with what's going on in our government, we can spell out
[01:18.080 --> 01:20.760]  the reasons without fear of being thrown into jail.
[01:20.760 --> 01:31.040]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, more news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[01:31.040 --> 01:34.680]  The Bill of Rights contains the first 10 amendments of our Constitution.
[01:34.680 --> 01:38.120]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[01:38.120 --> 01:39.640]  Our liberty depends on it.
[01:39.640 --> 01:43.520]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember
[01:43.520 --> 01:46.640]  one of your constitutional rights.
[01:46.640 --> 01:48.240]  Privacy is under attack.
[01:48.240 --> 01:51.840]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[01:51.840 --> 01:56.640]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[01:56.640 --> 02:01.760]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
[02:01.760 --> 02:04.400]  Privacy, it's worth hanging on to.
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[02:15.800 --> 02:20.160]  When I think of the Second Amendment, I visualize myself wrapping my two arms around the Bill
[02:20.160 --> 02:22.240]  of Rights in a big old bear hug.
[02:22.240 --> 02:26.720]  It's how I remember that the Second Amendment guarantees us the right to bear arms, arms
[02:26.720 --> 02:30.600]  that embrace our freedoms and won't let anyone take them away without a fight.
[02:30.600 --> 02:31.600]  Get it?
[02:31.600 --> 02:33.880]  Two arms, bear hug, bear arms?
[02:33.880 --> 02:37.480]  The late Senator Hubert Humphrey captured the spirit of the Second Amendment so well
[02:37.480 --> 02:38.480]  when he said,
[02:38.480 --> 02:43.680]  "...the right of the citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary government,
[02:43.680 --> 02:48.760]  and more safeguard against the tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which historically
[02:48.760 --> 02:50.600]  has proved to always be possible."
[02:50.600 --> 02:52.400]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht.
[02:52.400 --> 03:14.760]  More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[03:14.760 --> 03:36.340]  And here's what I want to tell you.
[03:36.340 --> 03:54.340]  get straighter every day and I can take anything that belongs to me and put it to good use what I was good for the gander was going to work for the goose
[03:54.340 --> 04:16.340]  I know some are okay we are back Randy Kelton radio phone lines are on hoping we get some questions for our speaker Mr. Harman Taylor and now I think we're getting to the good part
[04:16.340 --> 04:38.340]  how do we use this yeah after the after the wicked paradigm shift let's let's review a little bit the lies on which we're all raised is we've got a republic and because we believe that we're sitting ducks
[04:38.340 --> 04:57.340]  because why because we believe that to be there and we keep throwing the constitution at all these problems when that's never been admissible evidence of law and so one of the lessons from the terror litigation is
[04:57.340 --> 05:15.340]  kid you're doing great but stop being stupid stop talking about a constitution that doesn't apply we know why you do we know that it's part of the curriculum for your law school it's that way across the country
[05:15.340 --> 05:32.340]  and so we keep a lot of people in the dark by perpetuating that concept but if you're going to take on cases like this you need to cut that stuff out because you're not helping anybody and you're just showing that you don't understand it yet
[05:32.340 --> 05:54.340]  so cut it out this first part and then it's it's compelling then to say okay if we don't have if we have government that's not created by and therefore not limited by this language what are we dealing with okay answer federal means federal
[05:54.340 --> 06:14.340]  which is where we started federal means federal federal means by agreement how do we interact with this system pick a level and we interact with it federally we interact with it commercially what's the exception of that the exception to that is most of the
[06:14.340 --> 06:36.340]  provisions in the state penal code the national penal code is largely threshold operated by use of the funny money let me give you a couple of examples what I'm saying there is it's commercial to okay let's not get lost in the translation here
[06:36.340 --> 06:53.340]  title 18 is a whole lot more commercially neck commercial nexus dependent than the state codes which is why I'm saying the book of discipline at the state codes don't have to depend on a commercial nexus this is where we justify pushing people
[06:53.340 --> 07:15.340]  who walk up and down the sidewalk climbing people in the nose that's an assault and the people say through the power of the people through the organization we've authorized these law enforcement officers to take you into custody to take you before magistrate to get a probable cause determination and put your ass in jail
[07:15.340 --> 07:35.340]  and we're not going to put up with it so we define these things and we delegate the enforcement authority to people are trained to know how to enforce that so that not everybody who's out there has to be trained in how to be the sheriff or how to be the police officer to go around
[07:35.340 --> 07:54.340]  and enforce the law it's just it's a division of labor and so this is what I'm saying about the state penal code that's where it really is let's look at let's look at the national penal code let me give you a couple of examples to understand the commercial nexus nature of it
[07:54.340 --> 08:22.340]  and it's rich related directly to the change that we got in 1965 okay and it's going to come right back to the tarot litigation okay it's this is part of the padded two by four okay there's a case against a long-standing French banking houses number of years ago people may remember the
[08:22.340 --> 08:51.340]  name be BNP Bravo November Papa BNP Paribas it's a French banking house a very long-standing and they were doing a deal with and by in between nations on our on our bad list if we have a no fly zone and we have a no country zone and the no country zone says
[08:51.340 --> 09:04.340]  we're not going to trade with these countries because they're on the bad list and the BNP Paribas people were helping these bad countries
[09:04.340 --> 09:28.340]  do business together they never stepped foot once in the United States not once and yet this agreement this particular agreement got dragged into the US court system and demolished and BNP Paribas had to pay this enormous fine
[09:28.340 --> 09:42.340]  how did the US court system how did DOJ assert authority over a transaction that never stepped foot one anybody related to it ever step foot one United States
[09:42.340 --> 09:56.340]  answer they converted money not necessarily completely they converted money from one to US dollars to another
[09:56.340 --> 10:07.340]  it's the fact that they used US dollars at any point in that transaction that brought the entire transaction within the authority of the US court system
[10:07.340 --> 10:30.340]  BNP Paribas got nailed because part of the money conversion used US dollars okay example number two how is it that the US court system has authority over the narco traffickers that call Mexico or Central America places home
[10:30.340 --> 10:44.340]  how do we have authority over that here's a related question why are there no Russian mobsters in US jails Chinese mobsters Japanese mobsters
[10:44.340 --> 11:05.340]  why are none of them in the jail why is it the Mexican and Central American mobsters in US jails US dollars when the Mexican cartels sale their goods and services what do they sell it in exchange for US dollars
[11:05.340 --> 11:20.340]  okay it is the fact that that's the medium of exchange for the transaction that activates title 18 section 7 special territorial maritime jurisdiction
[11:20.340 --> 11:38.340]  that's the money clause and this is the point that was made in the terror litigation this ludicrous you say we don't have jurisdiction haven't you read 18 USC 7 well of course I have a million times what does that have to do with this answer
[11:38.340 --> 11:57.340]  they were talking about a transaction that involves US dollars this building was rented with US dollars we have jurisdiction bonehead of course you have jurisdiction they're using the money go understand title 18 section 7 and then come back
[11:57.340 --> 12:13.340]  here's your homework assignment for your next class you'll read this is what we're teaching you we're going to learn you about the Constitution and then we're going to teach you the rest of what you need to know here and that's exactly what they did
[12:13.340 --> 12:35.340]  I'd like to think I'm a pretty quick study and okay I fully accepted correction there and it took a while to get there but the point is if we're dealing with a by agreement system then we're dealing with a by agreement system what's the practical application
[12:35.340 --> 12:50.340]  if we don't have a Constitution what are we dealing with a commercial enterprise as a commercial enterprise function by agreement so what's the practical application how do we deal with this Leviathan how do we deal with this
[12:50.340 --> 13:08.340]  inscriptionally it's called the beast we can get into that or not how do we deal with it answer commercially how does it function commercially how do we deal with it commercially we have to change our mind I'm going straight to Paul's admonition here to the congregation
[13:08.340 --> 13:26.340]  in Rome the congregation in Rome contacted him and said we've got this and we've got that and Paul responded Paul the lawyer turned prosecutor turned judge they threw their coat at Saul is correct Saul I was saying it correctly saying no
[13:26.340 --> 13:41.340]  it's Paul no at that time it was Saul they threw their coats at Saul's feet and stone Stephen you remember that they threw their coat what does that mean we're going on the authority of Saul Saul says we get to do this and so here go the rocks
[13:41.340 --> 14:04.340]  and Stephen's dead eventually okay that got us that got to Saul that got to Saul and so we had this encounter to go get more arrest warrants which is going to Damascus to do that's when God encountered him caused him physical blindness so that he could then see
[14:04.340 --> 14:25.340]  Ananias cured the blindness after a while and Paul spent the next three years so intense lawyer prosecutor judge evangelist with a temporary stay in there so intense together that man had a material wicked paradigm shift of the divine intervention sort
[14:25.340 --> 14:44.340]  he had the burning bush experience with a different encounter his life changed and he realized he's committing murder and he got back into the evangelism circuit after three years that was a shock for him it took him three years to heal from that that's what we learned from it okay
[14:44.340 --> 15:05.340]  and so the point is we're dealing with a system that acts commercially we have got to understand after our wicked paradigm shift of the nature that Saul became Paul went through okay we have to rethink this so Paul is telling the congregation in Rome you're gonna
[15:05.340 --> 15:28.340]  have to change things if if you you're in you're in judgment of God why because of your behavior and you have the behavior have because of the way you think okay if you want approval of God if you want blessings of God guess what you're gonna have to change your behavior
[15:28.340 --> 15:48.340]  okay if you're gonna change your behavior guess what you're gonna have to change your mind you're gonna have to change your thinking so this is the fundamental message here to America we have to change our thinking we've been lied to all of our lives pick a topic
[15:48.340 --> 16:05.340]  we've been lied to all of our lives and so we've been thrown the Constitution against the wall like dirty underwear seems to go stick and it doesn't and we need to figure out why well it's never been admissible evidence of law in this system at the national
[16:05.340 --> 16:23.340]  level was not created by the Constitution it is therefore not limited by that language either it doesn't mean it's not created it doesn't mean it's not there it's just not created by the Constitution it doesn't mean it's not limited because it absolutely
[16:23.340 --> 16:49.340]  is limited we get rulings pretty much every year from the Supremes saying yep they crossed the line here they can't do that they are limited but by what principles answer commercial principles by agreement
[16:49.340 --> 16:59.340]  okay hang on Randy Kelton Brett fountain rude by radio we're going to start taking your calls the next segment so if you have a question or comment
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[19:13.340 --> 19:41.340]  All right, we are back with the rule of law radio Randy Kelton.
[19:41.340 --> 19:50.340]  I'm Brett fountain, and we're talking with our special guest tonight Harmon Taylor, do we have tone.
[19:50.340 --> 19:53.340]  Have tone.
[19:53.340 --> 19:55.340]  I heard one.
[19:55.340 --> 19:56.340]  Yes.
[19:56.340 --> 20:03.340]  So we're talking with Harmon Taylor and Harmon you were when we went out, you were saying we on.
[20:03.340 --> 20:09.340]  Yes.
[20:09.340 --> 20:12.340]  Yeah, I wasn't hearing you I think my volume got just okay.
[20:12.340 --> 20:19.340]  Okay, so we went out, you were talking about everything's by agreement. Everything's by agreement. Yes.
[20:19.340 --> 20:24.340]  Let's use the word agreement, let's talk about that right now.
[20:24.340 --> 20:30.340]  The Patriot community has been addicted to the concept of contract.
[20:30.340 --> 20:33.340]  And let's address that.
[20:33.340 --> 20:39.340]  We have the pick a topic.
[20:39.340 --> 20:46.340]  Let's just, let's just go with income tax because everybody has a general intuitive understanding of that.
[20:46.340 --> 20:56.340]  If income tax were contract it'd be impossible for anybody to go to jail why they can't, I mean we don't have debtors prison.
[20:56.340 --> 21:00.340]  What is a debt, it's a contract.
[21:00.340 --> 21:12.340]  And so I talk about federal being by agreement, so that we broaden our minds sometimes it is a contract but most of the time we're talking about trust obligation.
[21:12.340 --> 21:14.340]  What's the difference.
[21:14.340 --> 21:18.340]  The difference is, you can go to jail for breach of trust.
[21:18.340 --> 21:23.340]  It doesn't mean you go to jail for breach of trust it just makes it an option.
[21:23.340 --> 21:33.340]  So anytime there is language out there that's not codified in the penal code and that is a possible criminal sanction.
[21:33.340 --> 21:37.340]  We know that it's commercial because the entire system is commercial.
[21:37.340 --> 21:42.340]  Even some of the penal code provisions depend on a commercial nexus.
[21:42.340 --> 21:44.340]  They depend on an agreement.
[21:44.340 --> 21:57.340]  And if it's even possible, it doesn't mean you go to jail, but if it's even possible for there to be any criminal sanction, even if it's fine only, the obligation sounds in trust.
[21:57.340 --> 22:00.340]  It's the only way it can work.
[22:00.340 --> 22:04.340]  It's the only way it can work.
[22:04.340 --> 22:21.340]  So even when we have that, we can't go into court and say, you know, do you remember that popular fast food chain where the ad with that lady who was a little bit less than attractive would go up to the counter.
[22:21.340 --> 22:22.340]  Where's the beef.
[22:22.340 --> 22:23.340]  Where's the beef.
[22:23.340 --> 22:25.340]  You remember that ad.
[22:25.340 --> 22:27.340]  Yeah.
[22:27.340 --> 22:36.340]  Okay, we can't go into court and say, where's the agreement, where's the agreement, because we're going to get that shoved right back down our throats.
[22:36.340 --> 22:39.340]  We have to know that we're dealing with agreements.
[22:39.340 --> 22:46.340]  We have to know the nature of the agreement fundamentally, we have to study trust law.
[22:46.340 --> 22:54.340]  We have to know how we get into the agreement that is being alleged against us.
[22:54.340 --> 23:04.340]  And we have to know for sometimes at trial and sometimes before the issue of dispute ever comes up.
[23:04.340 --> 23:14.340]  Typically, it's better before the dispute ever to come up to know this where the agreement comes from so that we can prove we don't have it.
[23:14.340 --> 23:32.340]  If we can't prove at the time that the conflict is at its threshold moment that we don't have an agreement, then we need to be prepared to have the agreement enforced against us.
[23:32.340 --> 23:35.340]  It can be treated as if there is that agreement, right?
[23:35.340 --> 23:36.340]  Is that what I'm hearing?
[23:36.340 --> 23:39.340]  Yes, that's the premise.
[23:39.340 --> 23:53.340]  If we don't understand at the time of the initiation of the contact, with this or that law enforcement agency, this or that fourth branch agency,
[23:53.340 --> 24:04.340]  what the agreement is that they would enforce, how it comes about, and confirm absolutely from that moment that there is no agreement,
[24:04.340 --> 24:10.340]  and just stick to that like glue, where's your agreement?
[24:10.340 --> 24:19.340]  Then we're giving in to the commercial nexus, which can be formed during litigation.
[24:19.340 --> 24:22.340]  We don't have to have one before the dispute starts.
[24:22.340 --> 24:25.340]  It depends on which agency.
[24:25.340 --> 24:31.340]  It depends on how that agency suckers the target into the commercial nexus.
[24:31.340 --> 24:33.340]  What is administrative law?
[24:33.340 --> 24:39.340]  The art of suckering the target into an enforceable commercial nexus.
[24:39.340 --> 24:42.340]  That's administrative law in a nutshell.
[24:42.340 --> 24:44.340]  What's administrative law in a nutshell?
[24:44.340 --> 24:49.340]  The art of suckering the target into an enforceable commercial nexus.
[24:49.340 --> 24:52.340]  That's what that whole structure is about.
[24:52.340 --> 24:53.340]  We have a caller.
[24:53.340 --> 24:55.340]  I'd like to bring a caller on.
[24:55.340 --> 24:56.340]  He dropped off before.
[24:56.340 --> 24:59.340]  I want to catch him before he drops off again.
[24:59.340 --> 25:00.340]  Good.
[25:00.340 --> 25:06.340]  If you are from Tennessee, give us a first name.
[25:06.340 --> 25:09.340]  931 Area Code.
[25:09.340 --> 25:10.340]  Wait a minute.
[25:10.340 --> 25:11.340]  I know where that's at.
[25:11.340 --> 25:14.340]  That's West Tennessee.
[25:14.340 --> 25:18.340]  No, that's 731.
[25:18.340 --> 25:22.340]  Janet?
[25:22.340 --> 25:26.340]  Thanks for calling.
[25:26.340 --> 25:27.340]  Yes, thanks for calling.
[25:27.340 --> 25:28.340]  It kind of confused me.
[25:28.340 --> 25:32.340]  I'm from Tennessee, and 931 was familiar for some reason.
[25:32.340 --> 25:33.340]  Okay.
[25:33.340 --> 25:36.340]  What do you have for us today?
[25:36.340 --> 25:40.340]  I'd like to say thank you to Harmon.
[25:40.340 --> 25:44.340]  He is so interesting and blowing my mind.
[25:44.340 --> 25:54.340]  And I've been listening to all of this, and I really almost hate to change the subject.
[25:54.340 --> 25:56.340]  We're open for that.
[25:56.340 --> 26:05.340]  My question is not really about the topics that he's been on, but they've been fascinating.
[26:05.340 --> 26:13.340]  I'm going to try to make this as short as I can, even though this is my first time calling
[26:13.340 --> 26:17.340]  and it's kind of a complicated case.
[26:17.340 --> 26:26.340]  My son has been in the county jail for three and a half years.
[26:26.340 --> 26:29.340]  He's not been sentenced yet.
[26:29.340 --> 26:36.340]  He did do some things wrong, and he had some serious charges.
[26:36.340 --> 26:47.340]  And I've learned so much just listening to you guys and following along on the group.
[26:47.340 --> 26:53.340]  And we've not ever been at a place where he could represent himself.
[26:53.340 --> 26:58.340]  And I've just watched this develop.
[26:58.340 --> 27:07.340]  And I think that a lot of it has also been, he's been trumped up on some of his charges.
[27:07.340 --> 27:14.340]  Wait a minute, hold on.
[27:14.340 --> 27:23.340]  Give us a synopsis of his case before you give us opinions about how he's been treated.
[27:23.340 --> 27:27.340]  We need to kind of have an idea of what is actually going on.
[27:27.340 --> 27:32.340]  To be in jail for three years without trial, that sounds pretty serious.
[27:32.340 --> 27:36.340]  There has to be something else going on here.
[27:36.340 --> 27:39.340]  Well, he made a lot of people mad.
[27:39.340 --> 27:44.340]  And I have just recently, this is the main part of the question.
[27:44.340 --> 27:54.340]  I've just recently understood that he was denied bond over a non-capital offense.
[27:54.340 --> 27:55.340]  That can happen.
[27:55.340 --> 27:58.340]  Has he ever failed to appear?
[27:58.340 --> 28:08.340]  No, he was apprehended at the time, and he was not ever given bail or bond.
[28:08.340 --> 28:13.340]  Has he threatened someone with harm?
[28:13.340 --> 28:17.340]  He did. That is one of his charges.
[28:17.340 --> 28:19.340]  That'll do it.
[28:19.340 --> 28:20.340]  Okay.
[28:20.340 --> 28:25.340]  Consider you're the judge sitting up there.
[28:25.340 --> 28:31.340]  The accused has threatened to harm someone, and the threat is credible.
[28:31.340 --> 28:36.340]  And you let this guy out, and he goes and harms that person.
[28:36.340 --> 28:41.340]  The judge, that's one of the things you have to be careful about.
[28:41.340 --> 28:46.340]  Be especially careful about what you say.
[28:46.340 --> 28:51.340]  Probably won't beat that, depending on how, on the nature of the claim.
[28:51.340 --> 28:56.340]  But what else, what is he charged with?
[28:56.340 --> 29:12.340]  He was charged with aggravated assault, with aggravated, especially aggravated kidnapping and aggravated kidnapping.
[29:12.340 --> 29:19.340]  There's some really bad charges.
[29:19.340 --> 29:34.340]  But some of them, some of the things that have happened, he's had some bad lawyers.
[29:34.340 --> 29:43.340]  Okay, when we come back, in order for us to be able to help you, we need to kind of understand what's going on, so we know how to address things.
[29:43.340 --> 29:46.340]  When you speak about bad lawyers, we get it.
[29:46.340 --> 29:51.340]  Oh yeah, because Harman used to be a lawyer.
[29:51.340 --> 29:54.340]  Hang on, we'll fix this up on the other side.
[29:54.340 --> 30:00.340]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, we'll be right back.
[30:00.340 --> 30:07.340]  Everyone knows that walking is a great exercise, but you might not know that the way you walk could predict how long you're going to live.
[30:07.340 --> 30:13.340]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be back to tell you more about walking prognostication in just a moment.
[30:13.340 --> 30:15.340]  Privacy is under attack.
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[33:26.340 --> 33:49.340]  I won't, I won't, I won't let you pull the wool over my eyes.
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[34:32.340 --> 34:39.340]  Okay, we are back.
[34:39.340 --> 34:45.340]  Randy Kelton, we're at Fountain Road of Law Radio and we're talking to, what was your first name?
[34:45.340 --> 34:47.340]  Janet.
[34:47.340 --> 34:48.340]  Janet.
[34:48.340 --> 34:49.340]  Okay, that's what I said, Janet.
[34:49.340 --> 34:50.340]  Okay.
[34:50.340 --> 34:52.340]  Janet in Tennessee.
[34:52.340 --> 34:59.340]  And Janet, you have succeeded in giving me a very large headache.
[34:59.340 --> 35:02.340]  I'm so sorry.
[35:02.340 --> 35:04.340]  This is not a traffic ticket.
[35:04.340 --> 35:07.340]  This is really serious business.
[35:07.340 --> 35:08.340]  Yes, sir.
[35:08.340 --> 35:15.340]  He's charged with, is this a family court issue?
[35:15.340 --> 35:18.340]  Yes, it is.
[35:18.340 --> 35:26.340]  That's, and you said that he has never been in a position to where he could represent himself.
[35:26.340 --> 35:31.340]  He is charged with aggravated kidnapping and it's a family issue.
[35:31.340 --> 35:41.340]  If it was like a daughter or something that he kidnapped, that kind of lowers the potential severity somewhat.
[35:41.340 --> 35:42.340]  Well, it was-
[35:42.340 --> 35:43.340]  I mean, it's not like-
[35:43.340 --> 35:54.340]  His wife, it's his ex-wife and his son in their own home.
[35:54.340 --> 35:57.340]  That did not make sense.
[35:57.340 --> 35:58.340]  That's what she's saying.
[35:58.340 --> 35:59.340]  His ex-wife and-
[35:59.340 --> 36:03.340]  He's charged with kidnapping them in their own home.
[36:03.340 --> 36:04.340]  Yes.
[36:04.340 --> 36:05.340]  Is that what you're saying?
[36:05.340 --> 36:07.340]  I'm sorry, what?
[36:07.340 --> 36:11.340]  He's charged with kidnapping them in their own home.
[36:11.340 --> 36:14.340]  Yes.
[36:14.340 --> 36:17.340]  Okay, there may be something in Tennessee to address that.
[36:17.340 --> 36:21.340]  This sounds like a unique fact pattern to me.
[36:21.340 --> 36:26.340]  But was there some kind of a police standoff?
[36:26.340 --> 36:31.340]  No, no, there was not.
[36:31.340 --> 36:43.340]  I'm trying to imagine how the charge can have authority, their own home, not his home.
[36:43.340 --> 36:45.340]  Did he live there too?
[36:45.340 --> 36:47.340]  When you said there, does that mean all of them's home?
[36:47.340 --> 36:51.340]  All of them live there, yes, they all live there.
[36:51.340 --> 36:57.340]  In Texas, abduction actually has two meanings, one very little used meaning, that you're
[36:57.340 --> 37:02.340]  trapped in one place that you're not allowed to get out of, as opposed to being taken somewhere.
[37:02.340 --> 37:05.340]  I wonder, is that what was going on with your home?
[37:05.340 --> 37:11.340]  I'm sorry, with his home, their home, they were being trapped and not allowed to leave,
[37:11.340 --> 37:13.340]  or allegedly so?
[37:13.340 --> 37:14.340]  Correct.
[37:14.340 --> 37:25.340]  He was accused of the especially aggravated kidnapping would have been his own child in
[37:25.340 --> 37:34.340]  his own house, which he did have authority to tell the child to stay or to come or to
[37:34.340 --> 37:36.340]  go in their own home.
[37:36.340 --> 37:39.340]  Did he use a weapon?
[37:39.340 --> 37:41.340]  He did have a weapon.
[37:41.340 --> 37:45.340]  This is not good at all.
[37:45.340 --> 37:49.340]  No, it's not good at all.
[37:49.340 --> 37:53.340]  He absolutely should not represent himself.
[37:53.340 --> 38:00.340]  I represented myself once, I was charged with a Class A misdemeanor in Cherokee County.
[38:00.340 --> 38:08.340]  And I went down there with all my knowledge and my skills and abilities, and I managed
[38:08.340 --> 38:13.340]  to get that jury to throw the book at me.
[38:13.340 --> 38:16.340]  No, I knew what I was doing.
[38:16.340 --> 38:19.340]  At least I thought I did.
[38:19.340 --> 38:29.340]  But when I had to step up there and defend myself, I was tongue-tied.
[38:29.340 --> 38:31.340]  I had no idea what to do.
[38:31.340 --> 38:35.340]  He should absolutely not represent himself.
[38:35.340 --> 38:38.340]  No, he should not.
[38:38.340 --> 38:45.340]  It's okay to know what your lawyer should be doing for you, but in this case, I'm gonna
[38:45.340 --> 38:53.340]  suggest, just from what little I've heard, is pick your fights very carefully.
[38:53.340 --> 38:58.340]  If I'm going in for a traffic ticket, I'll go in there and I'll fight like crazy.
[38:58.340 --> 38:59.340]  I'll bar-grieve everybody.
[38:59.340 --> 39:01.340]  I'll judicial conduct a complaint to judge.
[39:01.340 --> 39:03.340]  I'll ask the plaintiff to arrest the judge.
[39:03.340 --> 39:06.340]  I'll just have a great time.
[39:06.340 --> 39:13.340]  But when my liberty is at risk, that changes everything.
[39:13.340 --> 39:15.340]  We have to be very careful.
[39:15.340 --> 39:21.340]  I'm gonna suggest, with the severity of this case, don't use any of my maneuvers.
[39:21.340 --> 39:23.340]  No, no.
[39:23.340 --> 39:31.340]  I had hoped to look for something that would give him a new trial, where he might have
[39:31.340 --> 39:39.340]  a better opportunity to at least address the kidnapping issue, which his attorney did not
[39:39.340 --> 39:44.340]  argue any element of that.
[39:44.340 --> 39:55.340]  And I didn't know if the denial of the bond, if that was an issue, since the court had
[39:55.340 --> 40:03.340]  previously taken a position that he was mentally capable of having trial, and then they also
[40:03.340 --> 40:11.340]  took the position that he was mentally, that they would not release him on bond for mental
[40:11.340 --> 40:12.340]  issues.
[40:12.340 --> 40:13.340]  The mental issues.
[40:13.340 --> 40:22.340]  The one mental issue is that he was able to understand what was going on in the court
[40:22.340 --> 40:23.340]  proceedings.
[40:23.340 --> 40:30.340]  The other mental issue is if he's a homicidal maniac, he can fully understand what's going
[40:30.340 --> 40:34.340]  on in the trial, so he'd be competent to stand trial.
[40:34.340 --> 40:43.340]  But if he's already killed 20 people, they're not gonna let him out, because he has a mental
[40:43.340 --> 40:46.340]  condition that may cause more issues.
[40:46.340 --> 40:49.340]  And that's probably why this is the case.
[40:49.340 --> 40:53.340]  So he has already, okay, he's been convicted?
[40:53.340 --> 40:54.340]  No.
[40:54.340 --> 40:56.340]  He's in the county?
[40:56.340 --> 41:02.340]  Yes, he has been convicted, he has not been sentenced.
[41:02.340 --> 41:06.340]  Was he convicted of a felony or a misdemeanor?
[41:06.340 --> 41:08.340]  A felony.
[41:08.340 --> 41:18.340]  Okay, so I'm surprised he's still in county and not already been sent downstate.
[41:18.340 --> 41:26.340]  You're probably way too late, and did he get a, he hasn't been sentenced yet.
[41:26.340 --> 41:34.500]  I'm gonna suggest that you suggest to him that if he has any anger, put it away.
[41:34.500 --> 41:41.500]  If he has any disagreements with the court or the way they've treated him, don't mention
[41:41.500 --> 41:42.820]  it.
[41:42.820 --> 41:49.020]  Right now, he is at the mercy of the court, and if he doesn't convince the court that
[41:49.020 --> 41:58.020]  he's not going to be a continuing threat to this family, he can go away for an extremely
[41:58.020 --> 41:59.020]  long time.
[41:59.020 --> 42:00.020]  Yes, sir.
[42:00.020 --> 42:06.420]  It's one of the things you can get life in prison for, is aggravated kidnapping.
[42:06.420 --> 42:11.860]  So don't use any of my techniques.
[42:11.860 --> 42:19.580]  He can try to do everything he can, ask him to do everything he can to demonstrate to
[42:19.580 --> 42:29.900]  him that he will not be a continuing threat, or he'll go away a long time.
[42:29.900 --> 42:40.180]  We had hoped to appeal, but his trial attorney did not object to anything?
[42:40.180 --> 42:50.260]  We can always file a motion for rehearing based on ineffective assistance of counsel.
[42:50.260 --> 42:52.260]  For rehearing?
[42:52.260 --> 42:58.900]  Yes, you can ask for a new trial based on ineffective assistance of counsel.
[42:58.900 --> 43:01.380]  Was this court appointing counsel?
[43:01.380 --> 43:04.460]  It was not, unfortunately.
[43:04.460 --> 43:17.580]  Okay, well, because you got a bad outcome, you got paid to counsel, and I would be remiss
[43:17.580 --> 43:21.300]  if I criticized counsel without good cause.
[43:21.300 --> 43:30.220]  Now, I don't have a lot of faith in attorneys, but in order for me to offer any kind of advice
[43:30.220 --> 43:33.020]  about that, I would need a timeline.
[43:33.020 --> 43:34.020]  Okay.
[43:34.020 --> 43:35.020]  Have you written up a timeline?
[43:35.020 --> 43:36.020]  I have worked on it.
[43:36.020 --> 43:43.180]  Get one written up, send that to me, then let me look at it, and I can get a better
[43:43.180 --> 43:50.580]  idea based on what's there, what his attorney should have done, and then we can address
[43:50.580 --> 43:51.580]  it from there.
[43:51.580 --> 43:57.020]  Even if he's convicted, if he's sentenced, you'll still have time to appeal.
[43:57.020 --> 44:00.500]  Hang on, Randy Kelton with Family Legal Radio.
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[46:50.780 --> 47:11.740]  Okay, we are back, Brandy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Louvo Radio, we're talking to Janette in Tennessee,
[47:11.740 --> 47:14.420]  Janette in Tennessee, I said that wrong.
[47:14.420 --> 47:15.420]  That's okay.
[47:15.420 --> 47:18.140]  And yeah, give me a timeline.
[47:18.140 --> 47:19.140]  Okay.
[47:19.140 --> 47:25.660]  And it's okay to put comments in the timeline, I just, I need to know what happened from
[47:25.660 --> 47:32.620]  start to back and email it to me, brandy at louvo radio.com.
[47:32.620 --> 47:36.940]  I'll look at it and then I can give you my best assessment.
[47:36.940 --> 47:40.180]  Thank you so much, good stuff.
[47:40.180 --> 47:47.260]  If your guy hasn't preserved any errors, then that'll probably be good grounds for ineffective
[47:47.260 --> 47:49.540]  assistance to counsel.
[47:49.540 --> 47:50.540]  Okay.
[47:50.540 --> 47:51.540]  Okay.
[47:51.540 --> 47:55.260]  So get that to me and then we can talk.
[47:55.260 --> 48:01.140]  Is the motion for rehearing something that can be done before sentencing or does that
[48:01.140 --> 48:02.700]  have to be done after?
[48:02.700 --> 48:08.860]  No, it can be done before or after, well, I don't know what the timeline is, you may
[48:08.860 --> 48:16.620]  be out of time, but if you have a lawyer who's not interested in a rehearing, it's not going
[48:16.620 --> 48:17.620]  to be helpful.
[48:17.620 --> 48:24.220]  Why not just go ahead and put it in there and then, then see about if you can get another
[48:24.220 --> 48:25.220]  lawyer.
[48:25.220 --> 48:32.300]  Well, I'm thinking, I'm thinking about, uh, annoying the judge too much right now.
[48:32.300 --> 48:40.900]  The judge has his life in his hand right now and you, you want to show contrition and you've
[48:40.900 --> 48:52.660]  already been convicted, you want to show contrition and not, uh, be too aggressive in your methods
[48:52.660 --> 48:57.260]  because that will, that will reflect back to what he's convicted of.
[48:57.260 --> 49:00.300]  Does that make sense?
[49:00.300 --> 49:01.300]  Yeah.
[49:01.300 --> 49:02.300]  Yeah.
[49:02.300 --> 49:09.220]  I'm the judge sitting up here and I have a duty to protect the child and the wife or
[49:09.220 --> 49:14.620]  the ex-wife or whatever she is from this guy.
[49:14.620 --> 49:18.820]  So I'm going to be watching this guy really close.
[49:18.820 --> 49:22.540]  He has, he has to be very careful what he shows to the judge.
[49:22.540 --> 49:30.020]  Now he can certainly object to the effect of his effectiveness of his counsel, but right
[49:30.020 --> 49:34.380]  now he has to be very careful.
[49:34.380 --> 49:37.780]  You want to get as small a sentence as possible.
[49:37.780 --> 49:39.500]  Yeah.
[49:39.500 --> 49:40.940]  Yeah.
[49:40.940 --> 49:49.980]  So the thing, Harman, how long has he got on effective, ineffective assistance of counsel?
[49:49.980 --> 49:58.820]  That'll come up on direct appeal and the appellate time period won't start until you have typically,
[49:58.820 --> 50:01.700]  that sounds like he's not going to get a deferred adjudication.
[50:01.700 --> 50:09.140]  Sometimes you can do an appeal ahead of a final judgment for sentencing, but my expectation
[50:09.140 --> 50:14.300]  in this case is you'll have a final judgment once the sentence is pronounced.
[50:14.300 --> 50:20.860]  It depends upon how long he's going to get credit for, for the time he's already in.
[50:20.860 --> 50:24.620]  It depends on how, how bad the judge sees it.
[50:24.620 --> 50:25.620]  He can get released.
[50:25.620 --> 50:30.460]  He's been in, let's just say he's been in for three and a half years and the judge says,
[50:30.460 --> 50:35.220]  okay, your sentence is three and a half years and therefore you're done.
[50:35.220 --> 50:39.260]  And I don't want to hear any more of these kinds of problems.
[50:39.260 --> 50:46.820]  I don't know what the sentencing limit is there, but for review, you need a final judgment.
[50:46.820 --> 50:54.340]  A final judgment comes with both the guilty determination and the sentence.
[50:54.340 --> 50:58.100]  That's the combination that produces a final judgment.
[50:58.100 --> 51:01.540]  And then the appellate time period starts.
[51:01.540 --> 51:08.220]  In Texas, if you do a motion for a new trial, then you get additional time period to initiate
[51:08.220 --> 51:09.220]  the appeal.
[51:09.220 --> 51:15.820]  In the event motion for new trial is denied, I haven't studied Tennessee procedure at
[51:15.820 --> 51:21.820]  any kind of level enough to tell you what to expect there.
[51:21.820 --> 51:26.300]  You might need a motion for new trial if there's a no evidence concept.
[51:26.300 --> 51:27.540]  That's how it is in Texas.
[51:27.540 --> 51:30.620]  I don't know what it is there.
[51:30.620 --> 51:33.260]  You don't need a motion for new trial in the US system.
[51:33.260 --> 51:34.820]  They just presume that.
[51:34.820 --> 51:38.300]  A little bit different evidentiary standard there.
[51:38.300 --> 51:46.460]  But long story short, the attorney can probably fill you in promptly on what the appellate
[51:46.460 --> 51:53.820]  timetable is and that time period starts when he gets the sentence.
[51:53.820 --> 51:59.620]  If that information helps at all on appeal, then you can raise the effective assistance
[51:59.620 --> 52:00.620]  thing.
[52:00.620 --> 52:02.300]  It's a tough defense.
[52:02.300 --> 52:05.540]  It's not something that is all that easy.
[52:05.540 --> 52:06.540]  It happens.
[52:06.540 --> 52:14.780]  But it's not all that easy a defense to expect to get a lot of traction with.
[52:14.780 --> 52:20.940]  Just practical matter that helps on planning.
[52:20.940 --> 52:25.660]  I would suggest now do everything you can to get as small a sentence as possible.
[52:25.660 --> 52:34.780]  If he gets a time served, don't do anything.
[52:34.780 --> 52:40.900]  Don't make things worse because this really goes to the discretion of the judge.
[52:40.900 --> 52:42.260]  But send me an email.
[52:42.260 --> 52:45.940]  Let me look at your timeline and then I can better address this.
[52:45.940 --> 52:49.940]  This is too sensitive to address on the air anyway, completely.
[52:49.940 --> 52:50.940]  Okay.
[52:50.940 --> 52:51.940]  Okay.
[52:51.940 --> 52:52.940]  Thank you.
[52:52.940 --> 52:56.140]  Thanks greatly for the call.
[52:56.140 --> 52:57.140]  Thank you so much.
[52:57.140 --> 52:58.140]  Appreciate it.
[52:58.140 --> 52:59.140]  Okay.
[52:59.140 --> 53:00.140]  Good.
[53:00.140 --> 53:01.140]  Bye-bye.
[53:01.140 --> 53:02.140]  Okay.
[53:02.140 --> 53:03.140]  Bye-bye.
[53:03.140 --> 53:04.140]  Okay.
[53:04.140 --> 53:13.140]  We don't have any callers on the board or call in number 512-646-1984 if you have a
[53:13.140 --> 53:17.740]  question or comment, give us a call and in the meantime, there was one more subject we
[53:17.740 --> 53:28.860]  wanted to address and that being contracts and trusts.
[53:28.860 --> 53:29.860]  Yes.
[53:29.860 --> 53:31.380]  Are we up to that one?
[53:31.380 --> 53:32.380]  Yes.
[53:32.380 --> 53:33.380]  I think we are.
[53:33.380 --> 53:34.380]  Okay.
[53:34.380 --> 53:35.380]  We had talked.
[53:35.380 --> 53:36.380]  We had talked.
[53:36.380 --> 53:37.380]  No constitution.
[53:37.380 --> 53:38.380]  Correct.
[53:38.380 --> 53:39.380]  Money system and currency.
[53:39.380 --> 53:43.620]  You addressed money system a little bit, but just kind of in passing.
[53:43.620 --> 53:44.620]  Okay.
[53:44.620 --> 53:53.700]  It's another confirmation of how we know what kind of system we're dealing with.
[53:53.700 --> 53:58.940]  If we had a constitution, if the constitution were admissible evidence of law, it would
[53:58.940 --> 54:02.660]  have been fundamentally illegal.
[54:02.660 --> 54:11.340]  It would have been systemically impossible to change the money system out.
[54:11.340 --> 54:17.300]  It's one of these subtle things, we're using IOUs, not troy ounces fine silver, not troy
[54:17.300 --> 54:19.460]  ounces fine gold.
[54:19.460 --> 54:23.860]  We're using IOUs and scrap metal tokens.
[54:23.860 --> 54:31.260]  That would be impossible if the national system existed according to the constitution.
[54:31.260 --> 54:36.820]  If the constitution had been admissible evidence of law, it would have been impossible to change
[54:36.820 --> 54:38.420]  the money system.
[54:38.420 --> 54:39.420]  Okay.
[54:39.420 --> 54:45.460]  Scripturally, on the money system, just to put this into context, it's Eden all over
[54:45.460 --> 54:46.460]  again.
[54:46.460 --> 54:49.180]  With the honest weights and measures, we have God's law.
[54:49.180 --> 54:52.500]  What is the hedge in the garden?
[54:52.500 --> 54:54.100]  God's law.
[54:54.100 --> 54:55.100]  What's the garden?
[54:55.100 --> 54:56.340]  The hedged in area.
[54:56.340 --> 54:57.340]  What's the hedge?
[54:57.340 --> 54:58.340]  God's law.
[54:58.340 --> 55:00.460]  What protects us?
[55:00.460 --> 55:01.460]  God's law.
[55:01.460 --> 55:07.660]  How do we have God's law generally answer circulation of honest weights and measures?
[55:07.660 --> 55:08.660]  Why?
[55:08.660 --> 55:11.620]  Because it's what God said to use.
[55:11.620 --> 55:17.380]  It's silver, not that we can't use gold and not that gold isn't fully recognized as honest
[55:17.380 --> 55:19.100]  system weights and measures.
[55:19.100 --> 55:21.380]  God's money is silver.
[55:21.380 --> 55:25.340]  It has healthy qualities with it.
[55:25.340 --> 55:27.220]  I think it's antibacterial.
[55:27.220 --> 55:34.940]  I think silver functions as an antibacterial material just naturally, so it's healthy to
[55:34.940 --> 55:36.220]  circulate silver.
[55:36.220 --> 55:42.340]  It's just healthy, physically, bodily, but other than that, it's not a fluctuating medium
[55:42.340 --> 55:45.140]  of exchange.
[55:45.140 --> 55:52.900]  Roger Sherman wrote the book, and he's the only one that signed all the major documents.
[55:52.900 --> 55:59.780]  He's from Connecticut, and he talked about fluctuating medium of exchange.
[55:59.780 --> 56:02.160]  It goes all the way back to that.
[56:02.160 --> 56:05.820]  The reason for calling the Constitutional Convention, which is nowhere mentioned, I
[56:05.820 --> 56:09.020]  don't know where else you're going to get this information, but I will tell you what
[56:09.020 --> 56:15.820]  it is anyway, the reason for calling the Constitutional Convention was the addiction of the states
[56:15.820 --> 56:22.260]  to do what the Constitution talks about as bills of credit.
[56:22.260 --> 56:23.820]  That was the funny money of the day.
[56:23.820 --> 56:33.100]  It was the international effort of the day to get control via the use of money.
[56:33.100 --> 56:40.260]  It took them until 1965 to accomplish it, and by 1965, God said, you can have them.
[56:40.260 --> 56:43.580]  I am withdrawing my protection.
[56:43.580 --> 56:52.860]  I'm withdrawing my protection by setting up a system that defies honest weights and measures.
[56:52.860 --> 57:05.260]  We have the IOU system in circulation right now, the debt-based currency system, and in
[57:05.260 --> 57:09.860]  that, God has withdrawn his protection.
[57:09.860 --> 57:10.860]  How do we know that?
[57:10.860 --> 57:15.500]  Because he's withdrawn his money from general circulation, so it's eaten all over again.
[57:15.500 --> 57:21.820]  We have been expelled, we have been outlawed, we've been outlawed by God.
[57:21.820 --> 57:24.140]  Why mention this at all?
[57:24.140 --> 57:28.860]  To solve a problem, we have to identify it correctly, and we can focus forever and a
[57:28.860 --> 57:36.980]  day on what this governmental system is doing and just spin the mud out from under our tire
[57:36.980 --> 57:39.220]  when we're stuck in the mud.
[57:39.220 --> 57:40.220]  Because why?
[57:40.220 --> 57:43.900]  Because the problem really isn't the fact that we don't have a constitution.
[57:43.900 --> 57:45.580]  That's not the problem.
[57:45.580 --> 57:50.420]  The problem isn't really the fact that we don't have gold and silver in general circulation.
[57:50.420 --> 57:57.260]  They're symptoms of the problem, but the problem is the direct interaction with God Almighty.
[57:57.260 --> 58:03.820]  We have adopted a moral code that God finds rebellious.
[58:03.820 --> 58:09.060]  God finds our adoption of what we've been raised on, and we don't know any better, frankly.
[58:09.060 --> 58:10.060]  We don't know any better.
[58:10.060 --> 58:11.860]  We've been doing what we've been taught.
[58:11.860 --> 58:14.620]  We've been doing in very good faith what we've been taught.
[58:14.620 --> 58:17.980]  What we've been taught is not God's moral code.
[58:17.980 --> 58:21.460]  We have not been taught the way.
[58:21.460 --> 58:23.980]  We've been taught a lot of substitutes.
[58:23.980 --> 58:26.620]  God's put us on notice, put us on notice, put us on notice.
[58:26.620 --> 58:27.620]  Here's all your judgment.
[58:27.620 --> 58:33.260]  And it took getting rid of the money to establish this beast system in earnest, which He told
[58:33.260 --> 58:34.260]  us was coming.
[58:34.260 --> 58:36.460]  I mean, none of this is unpredicted.
[58:36.460 --> 58:38.340]  All of it's predicted.
[58:38.340 --> 58:44.860]  But as we get to the point of realizing we do not have any real control over this system
[58:44.860 --> 58:50.260]  except commercially, then when we realize how wrapped up in them.
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[01:00:20.940 --> 01:00:22.700]  You'll never get it back again.
[01:00:22.700 --> 01:00:27.460]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish, too.
[01:00:27.460 --> 01:00:32.420]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
[01:00:32.420 --> 01:00:35.220]  Privacy, it's worth hanging on to.
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[01:00:45.220 --> 01:00:48.840]  Imagine your mom and dad are getting ready for bed.
[01:00:48.840 --> 01:00:51.940]  They pull back the covers and find a third party there.
[01:00:51.940 --> 01:00:55.120]  He announces, I'm with the military and I'm sleeping here tonight.
[01:00:55.120 --> 01:00:59.260]  That shocking image of a third party in my parents' bed reminds me what the Third Amendment
[01:00:59.260 --> 01:01:00.860]  was designed to prevent.
[01:01:00.860 --> 01:01:05.060]  It protects us from being forced to share our homes with soldiers, a common demand in
[01:01:05.060 --> 01:01:07.180]  the days of our founding fathers.
[01:01:07.180 --> 01:01:08.900]  Third party, Third Amendment?
[01:01:08.900 --> 01:01:09.900]  Get it?
[01:01:09.900 --> 01:01:13.340]  So if you answer a knock at your door and guys in fatigues demand lodging, tell them
[01:01:13.340 --> 01:01:16.820]  to dust off their copy of the Bill of Rights and reread the Third Amendment.
[01:01:16.820 --> 01:01:32.020]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, more news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[01:01:32.020 --> 01:01:35.700]  The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution.
[01:01:35.700 --> 01:01:39.140]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[01:01:39.140 --> 01:01:40.660]  Our liberty depends on it.
[01:01:40.660 --> 01:01:44.520]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember
[01:01:44.520 --> 01:01:47.500]  one of your constitutional rights.
[01:01:47.500 --> 01:01:49.100]  Privacy is under attack.
[01:01:49.100 --> 01:01:52.700]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[01:01:52.700 --> 01:01:57.460]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[01:01:57.460 --> 01:02:02.620]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
[01:02:02.620 --> 01:02:05.220]  Privacy, it's worth hanging on to.
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[01:02:16.740 --> 01:02:22.100]  Imagine four eyes staring at you through binoculars, a magnifying glass, or a pair of x-ray goggles.
[01:02:22.100 --> 01:02:26.580]  That imagery reminds me that the Fourth Amendment guarantees Americans freedom from unreasonable
[01:02:26.580 --> 01:02:28.060]  search and seizure.
[01:02:28.060 --> 01:02:29.060]  Fourth Amendment?
[01:02:29.060 --> 01:02:30.420]  Four eyes staring at you?
[01:02:30.420 --> 01:02:31.420]  Get it?
[01:02:31.420 --> 01:02:34.540]  Unfortunately, the government is trampling our Fourth Amendment rights in the name of
[01:02:34.540 --> 01:02:35.540]  security.
[01:02:35.540 --> 01:02:40.060]  Case in point, TSA airport scanners that peer under your clothing.
[01:02:40.060 --> 01:02:44.100]  When government employees demand a peep at your privates without probable cause, I say
[01:02:44.100 --> 01:02:46.940]  it's time to sound the constitutional alarm bells.
[01:02:46.940 --> 01:02:51.180]  Join me in asking our representatives to dust off the Bill of Rights and use their googly
[01:02:51.180 --> 01:02:53.340]  eyes to take a gander at the Fourth.
[01:02:53.340 --> 01:02:55.260]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht.
[01:02:55.260 --> 01:03:10.700]  More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[01:03:10.700 --> 01:03:26.080]  Dr. Albrecht spoken.
[01:03:26.080 --> 01:03:29.580]  I will, I will, I will, I will, I will, I will, I will, I will, I will, I will, I will, I will, I will, I will, I this is my mistake and comprised of utter ignorances.
[01:03:30.080 --> 01:03:32.080]  I will, I will, I will, I will, I will, I will, I will, I will, I will, I will, I will, I will, I will, I will, I will, I will, I will, I will, I will, I will, I will, I will, I will, I will, I will.
[01:03:33.080 --> 01:03:37.080]  He has led me with his faith and wisdom and
[01:03:37.580 --> 01:03:40.580]  able my concern
[01:03:41.080 --> 01:03:50.580]  I will, I will, I will, I will, I will, I will, I will, I will my Frithes hos
[01:03:50.580 --> 01:03:54.580]  I will like to prop my father's house
[01:03:54.580 --> 01:03:58.580]  I will guard these walls and fences
[01:03:58.580 --> 01:04:01.580]  Like I must take his place
[01:04:01.580 --> 01:04:05.580]  I will like to prop my father's house
[01:04:05.580 --> 01:04:08.580]  Make a tooth in her denite, show the father empty
[01:04:08.580 --> 01:04:11.580]  Kiss all the parasites from around her
[01:04:11.580 --> 01:04:14.580]  Teeth will blight her and teeth will murder her
[01:04:14.580 --> 01:04:17.580]  Kiss her not the house because they cannot enter
[01:04:17.580 --> 01:04:20.580]  Pure and dark and clean signs only
[01:04:20.580 --> 01:04:23.580]  Only them could enter in God's house you see
[01:04:23.580 --> 01:04:25.580]  See a real soul surrender quickly
[01:04:25.580 --> 01:04:28.580]  That's what we are doing now we have the house you see
[01:04:28.580 --> 01:04:31.580]  I will like to prop my father's house
[01:04:31.580 --> 01:04:34.580]  I will guard these walls and fences
[01:04:34.580 --> 01:04:38.580]  I will like to prop my father's house
[01:04:38.580 --> 01:04:41.580]  You gotta keep me sleeping
[01:04:41.580 --> 01:04:52.580]  Okay, we are back Randy Kelkin, Brett Fountain, LulaVla Radio on this the 14th day of April 2023
[01:04:52.580 --> 01:04:57.580]  And we don't have any callers on our call board if you have a question or comment give us a call
[01:04:57.580 --> 01:05:02.580]  In the meantime we have a very special guest, Harmon Taylor
[01:05:02.580 --> 01:05:09.580]  And you just told me where we were at and I lost it again
[01:05:09.580 --> 01:05:12.580]  How tightly we are enmeshed in this commercialism
[01:05:12.580 --> 01:05:15.580]  He was saying we don't realize
[01:05:15.580 --> 01:05:18.580]  How do you remember that?
[01:05:18.580 --> 01:05:21.580]  Part of the job
[01:05:21.580 --> 01:05:24.580]  He's not as old as I am
[01:05:24.580 --> 01:05:27.580]  We get the habit of taking notes
[01:05:27.580 --> 01:05:32.580]  I think the bumper music came in mid-sentence so I just stopped
[01:05:32.580 --> 01:05:37.580]  But where we understand we are dealing with a commercial system
[01:05:37.580 --> 01:05:40.580]  Our entire thinking has to change
[01:05:40.580 --> 01:05:41.580]  This is the point
[01:05:41.580 --> 01:05:44.580]  We've got to change our minds about what we are dealing with
[01:05:44.580 --> 01:05:48.580]  And we are talking about solving a problem
[01:05:48.580 --> 01:05:55.580]  We can't solve a law of God problem by throwing law of man at it
[01:05:55.580 --> 01:05:59.580]  There's nothing about the constitution that changes
[01:05:59.580 --> 01:06:05.580]  The reason that God has subjected us to the level of judgment in which we find ourselves
[01:06:05.580 --> 01:06:10.580]  And so it matters that we understand the law of man
[01:06:10.580 --> 01:06:11.580]  It matters
[01:06:11.580 --> 01:06:13.580]  For what reason?
[01:06:13.580 --> 01:06:20.580]  Because if we know we are dealing with a commercial nexus
[01:06:20.580 --> 01:06:26.580]  And we know we haven't affirmatively ended it
[01:06:26.580 --> 01:06:30.580]  Then it makes our time in court much more efficient
[01:06:30.580 --> 01:06:34.580]  If we are the target and we are good for it
[01:06:34.580 --> 01:06:41.580]  Then we need to meet with our opposite number on the way to court
[01:06:41.580 --> 01:06:45.580]  And try to make settlement
[01:06:45.580 --> 01:06:50.580]  If we are 100% certain that we do not have a commercial nexus
[01:06:50.580 --> 01:06:52.580]  And the system doesn't recognize that
[01:06:52.580 --> 01:06:54.580]  That's the issue to fight
[01:06:54.580 --> 01:06:57.580]  It's the only issue to fight
[01:06:57.580 --> 01:06:59.580]  On the commercial areas
[01:06:59.580 --> 01:07:03.580]  If we are into traditional penal code things
[01:07:03.580 --> 01:07:08.580]  The caller was talking about some things that I consider to be non-commercial
[01:07:08.580 --> 01:07:11.580]  Those are traditional penal code things
[01:07:11.580 --> 01:07:14.580]  There's no commercial nexus there
[01:07:14.580 --> 01:07:17.580]  Either they've got facts for it or they don't
[01:07:17.580 --> 01:07:20.580]  And those cases depend on the facts
[01:07:20.580 --> 01:07:26.580]  The commercial nexus dependent matters depend on whether there's a commercial nexus or not
[01:07:26.580 --> 01:07:31.580]  If there's a commercial nexus and the charge is raised
[01:07:31.580 --> 01:07:35.580]  Then at the end of the day we're good for it
[01:07:35.580 --> 01:07:37.580]  Because there's obviously a breach
[01:07:37.580 --> 01:07:42.580]  Or why are they complaining, you see
[01:07:42.580 --> 01:07:51.580]  So what we're talking about
[01:07:51.580 --> 01:08:00.580]  Is being efficient in how we respond to the case
[01:08:00.580 --> 01:08:06.580]  Okay, let's say I've got a traffic ticket
[01:08:06.580 --> 01:08:07.580]  Okay
[01:08:07.580 --> 01:08:13.580]  Now we understand that traffic is certainly commercial
[01:08:13.580 --> 01:08:15.580]  It absolutely is
[01:08:15.580 --> 01:08:20.580]  How do I address the traffic ticket differently than I would
[01:08:20.580 --> 01:08:26.580]  If I didn't understand the commercial nexus?
[01:08:26.580 --> 01:08:34.580]  If you're in a transportation matter without an understanding of commercial nexus
[01:08:34.580 --> 01:08:37.580]  Then let's say it's a speeding ticket
[01:08:37.580 --> 01:08:42.580]  The only real defense there is challenging the calibration of the machine
[01:08:42.580 --> 01:08:44.580]  It's a possible defense
[01:08:44.580 --> 01:08:50.580]  It's a 99 percentile loser
[01:08:50.580 --> 01:08:54.580]  Okay, if it's a failure to stop the stop sign
[01:08:54.580 --> 01:08:58.580]  This sort of thing in a transportation matter
[01:08:58.580 --> 01:09:02.580]  Then it's a factual dispute
[01:09:02.580 --> 01:09:07.580]  And so it's the party's word against the police officer
[01:09:07.580 --> 01:09:09.580]  How do you think that's going to go?
[01:09:09.580 --> 01:09:12.580]  It's not that you don't have a defense
[01:09:12.580 --> 01:09:17.580]  It's a matter of how practical is it
[01:09:17.580 --> 01:09:24.580]  Generally where I want to go here and where we normally go is commerce
[01:09:24.580 --> 01:09:28.580]  First thing, I tell people if you're going to a traffic ticket
[01:09:28.580 --> 01:09:32.580]  Do not argue the merits
[01:09:32.580 --> 01:09:38.580]  You get to the merits, it goes to the discretion of the court
[01:09:38.580 --> 01:09:41.580]  And the court will always rule against you
[01:09:41.580 --> 01:09:44.580]  They're just sitting there waiting to rule against you
[01:09:44.580 --> 01:09:47.580]  So let's go to jurisdiction
[01:09:47.580 --> 01:09:50.580]  How do they get in the front door?
[01:09:50.580 --> 01:09:58.580]  And I'm looking for how that particular argument would be different
[01:09:58.580 --> 01:10:03.580]  If I understood that everything's by agreement
[01:10:03.580 --> 01:10:09.580]  Okay, let's talk Texas
[01:10:09.580 --> 01:10:11.580]  We've got people from all over the country
[01:10:11.580 --> 01:10:14.580]  And so this may or may not help them directly
[01:10:14.580 --> 01:10:16.580]  But it gives them a place to start
[01:10:16.580 --> 01:10:18.580]  In Texas we have a code criminal procedure
[01:10:18.580 --> 01:10:22.580]  Code criminal procedure says thou shalt plead one of three ways
[01:10:22.580 --> 01:10:25.580]  Guilty, not guilty, no contest
[01:10:25.580 --> 01:10:32.580]  I am particularly versed in challenging that provision
[01:10:32.580 --> 01:10:36.580]  Why? Because if it's not a penal code matter
[01:10:36.580 --> 01:10:38.580]  And even some of the things that are penal code matters
[01:10:38.580 --> 01:10:42.580]  Everything outside the penal code has another response
[01:10:42.580 --> 01:10:44.580]  It's called plea the jurisdiction
[01:10:44.580 --> 01:10:47.580]  How do you plead to this? I plead the jurisdiction
[01:10:47.580 --> 01:10:49.580]  Well, I'm going to say not guilty
[01:10:49.580 --> 01:10:52.580]  Well, that's compelled consent
[01:10:52.580 --> 01:10:54.580]  It's compelled consent, why?
[01:10:54.580 --> 01:10:57.580]  Because if it's a commercial nexus dependent matter
[01:10:57.580 --> 01:11:01.580]  And the defense is I've never agreed to that and I can prove it
[01:11:01.580 --> 01:11:06.580]  Then to say not guilty is to jump over this threshold hurdle
[01:11:06.580 --> 01:11:10.580]  To say not guilty is to say there's an agreement but I didn't do it
[01:11:10.580 --> 01:11:12.580]  That's compelled commerce
[01:11:12.580 --> 01:11:16.580]  And so what I'm saying is it's an out of sight out of mind problem
[01:11:16.580 --> 01:11:22.580]  If the only thinking that we do is governed by what we read in the code criminal procedure
[01:11:22.580 --> 01:11:24.580]  We're stuck
[01:11:24.580 --> 01:11:30.580]  The code of criminal procedure is flawed in this area
[01:11:30.580 --> 01:11:36.580]  And it's flawed in this area for the obvious and specific reason of not planting the seed
[01:11:36.580 --> 01:11:42.580]  In anybody's mind in this plethora of commercial nexus dependent charges
[01:11:42.580 --> 01:11:45.580]  To challenge the agreement itself
[01:11:45.580 --> 01:11:48.580]  It's not accidental that that's not in there
[01:11:48.580 --> 01:11:49.580]  Say again
[01:11:49.580 --> 01:11:50.580]  We do have it
[01:11:50.580 --> 01:11:55.580]  It's not in the chapter 45 where the municipal and justice courts like to live
[01:11:55.580 --> 01:11:58.580]  But it is there in chapter 27
[01:11:58.580 --> 01:12:00.580]  If we look at
[01:12:00.580 --> 01:12:02.580]  Play the jurisdiction?
[01:12:02.580 --> 01:12:04.580]  Yes, where we say
[01:12:04.580 --> 01:12:10.580]  There's I raise an exception to the charging instrument
[01:12:10.580 --> 01:12:16.580]  Which is the exception that you would raise is obviously that it's
[01:12:16.580 --> 01:12:19.580]  There's no jurisdiction
[01:12:19.580 --> 01:12:22.580]  It also says it leaves a wide open one at the end
[01:12:22.580 --> 01:12:26.580]  It says and any other motions or pleadings that the defendant can make
[01:12:26.580 --> 01:12:28.580]  Yeah, there you go
[01:12:28.580 --> 01:12:30.580]  And of course, that's not part of the training
[01:12:30.580 --> 01:12:33.580]  You get three options according to most people
[01:12:33.580 --> 01:12:34.580]  And okay
[01:12:34.580 --> 01:12:40.580]  So we we raise the objection to get formally recognized where you're headed is good
[01:12:40.580 --> 01:12:43.580]  It does indirectly allow that
[01:12:43.580 --> 01:12:45.580]  But that's not the practice
[01:12:45.580 --> 01:12:48.580]  The practice is you've got three choices
[01:12:48.580 --> 01:12:50.580]  And so that's the challenge
[01:12:50.580 --> 01:12:54.580]  And where the court is saying you don't get this
[01:12:54.580 --> 01:12:56.580]  Then the court is compelling consent
[01:12:56.580 --> 01:13:01.580]  You jump over the threshold hurdle, which is the defense
[01:13:01.580 --> 01:13:03.580]  And the question is one of jurisdiction
[01:13:03.580 --> 01:13:07.580]  Okay, where we challenge the agreement
[01:13:07.580 --> 01:13:12.580]  And the the plaintiff has no commercial nexus to enforce
[01:13:12.580 --> 01:13:16.580]  What does that translate into by other words?
[01:13:16.580 --> 01:13:18.580]  No standing
[01:13:18.580 --> 01:13:23.580]  What happens when the plaintiff has no standing?
[01:13:23.580 --> 01:13:28.580]  What's the what's the legal result?
[01:13:28.580 --> 01:13:31.580]  No jurisdiction
[01:13:31.580 --> 01:13:33.580]  No jurisdiction
[01:13:33.580 --> 01:13:37.580]  Now the transportation area with two different things to challenge
[01:13:37.580 --> 01:13:41.580]  There's personal jurisdiction and subject matter jurisdiction
[01:13:41.580 --> 01:13:43.580]  Why do we challenge personal jurisdiction?
[01:13:43.580 --> 01:13:47.580]  That's the fiduciary capacity area
[01:13:47.580 --> 01:13:52.580]  To challenge capacity is to raise a personal jurisdiction issue
[01:13:52.580 --> 01:13:56.580]  That's not anything that stood on ceremony very often either
[01:13:56.580 --> 01:14:03.580]  We're challenging personal jurisdiction by saying I'm not liable in the capacity charged
[01:14:03.580 --> 01:14:06.580]  Yes, and we argue that a lot
[01:14:06.580 --> 01:14:07.580]  Okay
[01:14:07.580 --> 01:14:10.580]  They say well didn't you enter into this agreement?
[01:14:10.580 --> 01:14:13.580]  Didn't you apply for a license?
[01:14:13.580 --> 01:14:14.580]  Yes, I did
[01:14:14.580 --> 01:14:17.580]  And I have a license
[01:14:17.580 --> 01:14:21.580]  My favorite stop ever I was in Austin
[01:14:21.580 --> 01:14:25.580]  I got pulled over by an Austin police officer
[01:14:25.580 --> 01:14:28.580]  And when he came up I handed him an ID
[01:14:28.580 --> 01:14:33.580]  This was a number of years ago when you could have an ID and a driver's license
[01:14:33.580 --> 01:14:38.580]  He came back and he came back and said Mr. Kelton this is a Texas ID
[01:14:38.580 --> 01:14:40.580]  I said yes it is
[01:14:40.580 --> 01:14:43.580]  He said do you have a driver's license?
[01:14:43.580 --> 01:14:49.580]  I said yes I do but I'm not using it right now
[01:14:49.580 --> 01:14:53.580]  He said are you one of those guys? Yes I am
[01:14:53.580 --> 01:14:55.580]  Here have a nice day
[01:14:55.580 --> 01:14:57.580]  He just didn't want to have to fight
[01:14:57.580 --> 01:15:00.580]  Yeah I don't know how long ago that would be
[01:15:00.580 --> 01:15:05.580]  It wouldn't work now not just because they don't issue but one or the other
[01:15:05.580 --> 01:15:09.580]  But because they've been trained into a totally different area
[01:15:09.580 --> 01:15:11.580]  Which distracts from the fundamentals
[01:15:11.580 --> 01:15:15.580]  Yeah there's some other parts about that we would need to talk about offline
[01:15:15.580 --> 01:15:17.580]  Because it gets too detailed
[01:15:17.580 --> 01:15:22.580]  But at the end of the day I'll just tell you that the existence of a driver's license
[01:15:22.580 --> 01:15:26.580]  In your name active is one indicia of consent
[01:15:26.580 --> 01:15:27.580]  Yes
[01:15:27.580 --> 01:15:34.580]  So it doesn't matter whether I mean if you have a tag on the car then you have to have a license
[01:15:34.580 --> 01:15:38.580]  Here's the argument I make on that
[01:15:38.580 --> 01:15:44.580]  I have this automobile and it has a commercial license plate on it
[01:15:44.580 --> 01:15:50.580]  That means that I can operate this vehicle in commerce if I want to
[01:15:50.580 --> 01:15:59.580]  I'm authorized to do so and also have a driver's license that allows me to operate in commerce if I want to
[01:15:59.580 --> 01:16:05.580]  But I also have a pilot's license that allows me to fly an airplane if I want to
[01:16:05.580 --> 01:16:09.580]  But I'm not flying an airplane right now
[01:16:09.580 --> 01:16:16.580]  And while I am operating a conveyance
[01:16:16.580 --> 01:16:26.580]  I am not operating that conveyance in commerce so I am not acting under the authority of the contract
[01:16:26.580 --> 01:16:30.580]  Okay two questions
[01:16:30.580 --> 01:16:37.580]  How has that worked for you and if the law were different from that would you want to know?
[01:16:37.580 --> 01:16:45.580]  Absolutely I'd want to know and it has never made any difference whatsoever what I brought into a traffic court
[01:16:45.580 --> 01:16:53.580]  I have never had a judge read one of my pleadings they just deny everything out of hand
[01:16:53.580 --> 01:17:10.580]  Okay I'm hearing bumper music we'll come back
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[01:20:18.580 --> 01:20:24.580]  Okay we are back we're into Kelton Brett Fountain Rue La Radio
[01:20:24.580 --> 01:20:31.580]  We kind of got to talking about the traffic side while we were on the break
[01:20:31.580 --> 01:20:33.580]  Harmon do you want to address that now?
[01:20:33.580 --> 01:20:35.580]  You said that was a whole course
[01:20:35.580 --> 01:20:38.580]  Do we have time to address that today?
[01:20:38.580 --> 01:20:46.580]  Well no there really isn't a time or a good reason to go through the whole of the study
[01:20:46.580 --> 01:20:51.580]  Outside of individual coursework for the simple reason being
[01:20:51.580 --> 01:20:56.580]  It's a wicked paradigm shift and we've talked about wicked paradigm shift about the nature of government
[01:20:56.580 --> 01:21:01.580]  Once we get into mind what it is that we're dealing with namely commercial nexus
[01:21:01.580 --> 01:21:10.580]  The transportation defense is probably one of the most complicated commercial matters to deal with in American jurisprudence
[01:21:10.580 --> 01:21:19.580]  We have to understand what the point of the traffic circumstance is to understand why it's so onerous
[01:21:19.580 --> 01:21:24.580]  Let's go there really briefly it has to do with the money
[01:21:24.580 --> 01:21:31.580]  You've seen pictures you may actually have had a grandparent or a great grandparent with one
[01:21:31.580 --> 01:21:37.580]  You remember the original radios their furniture they stand two and a half feet off the ground
[01:21:37.580 --> 01:21:40.580]  They're rounded on top got a bunch of tiles on them
[01:21:40.580 --> 01:21:46.580]  We walked from my house to the next house which is two miles down the road
[01:21:46.580 --> 01:21:53.580]  We went into this room and this some guy got up I was about four at the time
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[01:22:17.580 --> 01:22:19.580]  What a great radio show
[01:22:19.580 --> 01:22:28.580]  Okay so in these original radios we've got a coarse tuned dial and we've got a fine tuned dial
[01:22:28.580 --> 01:22:38.580]  Okay our money system at the national level functions by IOUs
[01:22:38.580 --> 01:22:50.580]  IOUs eventually get paid whether they're paid or discharged on the accounting side of it they're treated as paid
[01:22:50.580 --> 01:22:58.580]  Okay an IOU that's paid can no longer circulate
[01:22:58.580 --> 01:23:08.580]  We have to take the amount of paid IOUs out of circulation general circulation every year
[01:23:08.580 --> 01:23:14.580]  Debt instruments expire by some amount or other
[01:23:14.580 --> 01:23:23.580]  That amount has to be removed from general circulation annually
[01:23:23.580 --> 01:23:34.580]  Guess what the coarse tuned mechanism is for removing the amount of paid debt from general circulation
[01:23:34.580 --> 01:23:38.580]  No you're not going to tell me traffic
[01:23:38.580 --> 01:23:43.580]  That's the fine tuned the coarse tuned is income tax
[01:23:43.580 --> 01:23:51.580]  We've never had an income tax for purposes of revenue that's never been the point of it
[01:23:51.580 --> 01:23:59.580]  The income tax got started so that when they threw the switch on the money system it would appear seamless
[01:23:59.580 --> 01:24:05.580]  Life wouldn't change as dramatically as it did change once the money changed
[01:24:05.580 --> 01:24:17.580]  We see in First World War Germany what happens when we don't take paid debt out of general circulation
[01:24:17.580 --> 01:24:25.580]  Here's the general analogy we take the wheelbarrow of paper to buy a loaf of bread in the morning
[01:24:25.580 --> 01:24:32.580]  And we take two wheel barrels of paper to buy the loaf of bread in the afternoon
[01:24:32.580 --> 01:24:36.580]  I bet that's an actual reality of what was happening there
[01:24:36.580 --> 01:24:43.580]  That's what happens we have unsolvable inflation
[01:24:43.580 --> 01:24:50.580]  Paper becomes worthless literally by the minute after a certain point
[01:24:50.580 --> 01:24:57.580]  It's a positive feedback system that wipes out the credibility of that medium of exchange
[01:24:57.580 --> 01:25:03.580]  To protect the credibility of that of an IOU based a debt based currency
[01:25:03.580 --> 01:25:08.580]  We have to take out of general circulation the amount that's been paid
[01:25:08.580 --> 01:25:14.580]  And the amount that's been paid isn't just the amount okay we borrowed ten thousand we paid it back with interest
[01:25:14.580 --> 01:25:19.580]  Okay that takes ten thousand dollars out of general circulation
[01:25:19.580 --> 01:25:26.580]  But what about the guy that didn't pay it and it gets written off it's paid according to the accounting it's been paid because it's been written off
[01:25:26.580 --> 01:25:30.580]  But how do we take that ten thousand out of general circulation
[01:25:30.580 --> 01:25:35.580]  Okay answer a money supply management mechanism
[01:25:35.580 --> 01:25:41.580]  What is the income tax the money supply management mechanism what
[01:25:41.580 --> 01:25:50.580]  This sounds familiar I was just writing a treatise on how the foreclosure problem occurred
[01:25:50.580 --> 01:25:56.580]  And I spoke to fractional reserve accounts
[01:25:56.580 --> 01:26:02.580]  They were a great idea this Bank of America gets this huge loan
[01:26:02.580 --> 01:26:06.580]  They go to the Federal Reserve and they put down ten percent
[01:26:06.580 --> 01:26:12.580]  And the Federal Reserve creates ninety percent by a stroke on a spreadsheet
[01:26:12.580 --> 01:26:16.580]  They create money out of the thin air
[01:26:16.580 --> 01:26:22.580]  They create debt it's not money it's debt and they can create as much debt as they want
[01:26:22.580 --> 01:26:28.580]  And then they take this debt and they use it to purchase a property
[01:26:28.580 --> 01:26:36.580]  And then when the lender pays the money back
[01:26:36.580 --> 01:26:42.580]  It goes back to the Federal Reserve and back to the thin air from which it came
[01:26:42.580 --> 01:26:48.580]  Increase the velocity of money without increasing the volume of money
[01:26:48.580 --> 01:26:52.580]  So if they did this and they didn't put the money back
[01:26:52.580 --> 01:26:56.580]  Then we would have massive inflation
[01:26:56.580 --> 01:27:01.580]  If they didn't take the paid amount out of general circulation yes
[01:27:01.580 --> 01:27:04.580]  That's what happened in post World War I Germany
[01:27:04.580 --> 01:27:11.580]  France demanded reparations Germany said no no no eventually they said okay we'll show you
[01:27:11.580 --> 01:27:17.580]  And they wiped themselves off the face of the mat by printing what they wanted to be worthless paper
[01:27:17.580 --> 01:27:20.580]  It got there and it destroyed their economy
[01:27:20.580 --> 01:27:26.580]  So then we got Second World War Germany that's an interesting vignette in history the point being
[01:27:26.580 --> 01:27:32.580]  We didn't have that problem and we didn't have that problem because we put a drain in the bottom of the tub
[01:27:32.580 --> 01:27:39.580]  Once you go to an IOU system the faucet is on perpetually why because debt expires
[01:27:39.580 --> 01:27:44.580]  Debt is either paid or written off and either way it's treated as paid
[01:27:44.580 --> 01:27:53.580]  Debt expires and therefore to have debt in general circulation it has constantly to be coming in why
[01:27:53.580 --> 01:28:02.580]  Because it's constantly evaporating and that's the nature of an IOU system a debt based system
[01:28:02.580 --> 01:28:12.580]  The funny money system is a debt system to manage it paid debt has to be removed from general circulation
[01:28:12.580 --> 01:28:20.580]  The coarse tuned dial that we analogy to the original radio the coarse tuned dial is income tax
[01:28:20.580 --> 01:28:28.580]  The fine tuned dial is traffic we know how brutally enforced the income tax is why
[01:28:28.580 --> 01:28:35.580]  Because it's how the bank maintains credibility by keeping all these people in fear
[01:28:35.580 --> 01:28:42.580]  Not thinking about where the commercial nexus comes from but I don't want to go to jail I'm not going to fight it
[01:28:42.580 --> 01:28:47.580]  They're brutal I don't want to fight them okay it works it's a brilliant system
[01:28:47.580 --> 01:28:51.580]  Look at it from their point of view it works flawlessly
[01:28:51.580 --> 01:29:01.580]  Okay the income tax is possible to manage the way they manage it because why because it's centrally monitored
[01:29:01.580 --> 01:29:07.580]  There are a few people who know exactly how it works and those are the people who make the decision
[01:29:07.580 --> 01:29:13.580]  On whether the civil amount can be collected and whether there's a criminal case they understand the system
[01:29:13.580 --> 01:29:19.580]  They understand what has to be in place for either a civil or criminal case to move forward
[01:29:19.580 --> 01:29:29.580]  It's possible to manage that one from the top it is impossible to manage traffic at the top so they don't try
[01:29:29.580 --> 01:29:39.580]  They make it an almost impossible system to defeat by the commercial nexus mechanism
[01:29:39.580 --> 01:29:47.580]  And we have to know everything about everything about how it works to stand a chance at making a defense successful
[01:29:47.580 --> 01:29:54.580]  And I don't know how many other people in the country have successful defense I'm one of them
[01:29:54.580 --> 01:29:59.580]  I'm satisfied I'm the first in Texas
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[01:34:00.580 --> 01:34:05.580]  Jack, meet Harmon Taylor
[01:34:05.580 --> 01:34:10.580]  I don't know what you're talking about. That's what I'm calling about
[01:34:10.580 --> 01:34:14.580]  It's good to meet you. Thanks for calling
[01:34:14.580 --> 01:34:18.580]  It's been a terrific show asking for all the information
[01:34:18.580 --> 01:34:22.580]  Here's my question
[01:34:22.580 --> 01:34:31.580]  I'd like to learn more about this, and I have seen other people who have courses or they teach or whatever
[01:34:31.580 --> 01:34:35.580]  And it costs an arm and a leg and I don't have it
[01:34:35.580 --> 01:34:47.580]  I was wondering if there is an original set of documents, history, like it started at the beginning
[01:34:47.580 --> 01:34:58.580]  Take it step by step and learn the process and all the stuff you've been talking about
[01:34:58.580 --> 01:35:11.580]  There may be. I have been working with a client for at least 10 years now on transportation things
[01:35:11.580 --> 01:35:19.580]  We've run into a barrier, and part of that barrier has to do with, I'm just going to call it
[01:35:19.580 --> 01:35:25.580]  The court, pastries, committing fraud on the court against themselves
[01:35:25.580 --> 01:35:32.580]  And literally fraud against America in their analysis of the transportation code
[01:35:32.580 --> 01:35:42.580]  We're getting no traction to challenge that because yours truly, at the time that case went to trial
[01:35:42.580 --> 01:35:48.580]  Hadn't pictured there being more than one beneficial interest
[01:35:48.580 --> 01:35:57.580]  There's at least two, and for that fact pattern reason, we're saying there's no commercial nexus when there was one
[01:35:57.580 --> 01:36:05.580]  And so at the end of the day, we see the commercial nexus, we figured that out
[01:36:05.580 --> 01:36:12.580]  There's a lot of details to go through there, but at the end of the day, the key appellate court
[01:36:12.580 --> 01:36:19.580]  The trial court and the appellate court in this particular system have announced to the world
[01:36:19.580 --> 01:36:23.580]  There's no consent element in the transportation code
[01:36:23.580 --> 01:36:29.580]  Let me just illustrate how obviously moronic this is, this assertion is
[01:36:29.580 --> 01:36:41.580]  The paperwork, the title paperwork that we have, that people have, is called a certificate
[01:36:41.580 --> 01:36:47.580]  It used to be a manufacturer's statement of origin, now it's a certificate of origin
[01:36:47.580 --> 01:36:54.580]  What is that code for? What does certificate in the title paperwork tell us?
[01:36:54.580 --> 01:36:57.580]  It tells us that there's a full title somewhere
[01:36:57.580 --> 01:37:03.580]  When it says certificate of title, certificate of this, certificate of that, dealing with title
[01:37:03.580 --> 01:37:10.580]  We've even seen it in land now, if land has developed, you know, houses, is purchased through the government
[01:37:10.580 --> 01:37:15.580]  The party doesn't get a title, the party gets a certificate of title
[01:37:15.580 --> 01:37:20.580]  That property in itself is already owned in trust
[01:37:20.580 --> 01:37:28.580]  So we get a certificate, when the car rolled, my 57 Chevy, when it rolled off the assembly line
[01:37:28.580 --> 01:37:31.580]  Got a manufacturer's statement of origin, what does that mean?
[01:37:31.580 --> 01:37:34.580]  That means that the manufacturer owned that product
[01:37:34.580 --> 01:37:37.580]  They made it, it's theirs, full title
[01:37:37.580 --> 01:37:42.580]  Their certificate didn't come into existence until the title was traded at the state level
[01:37:42.580 --> 01:37:50.580]  Now there's a certificate of manufacturer, which means when that, it's not a 57 Chevy
[01:37:50.580 --> 01:37:56.580]  When that Chevy rolls off the line now, this had been after 71 or 72, it's in that time period
[01:37:56.580 --> 01:38:04.580]  When that truck, when that car, when that van rolls off the assembly line, during or after, let's just call it 1972
[01:38:04.580 --> 01:38:09.580]  It's already owned in trust, there's a beneficial interest at the national level
[01:38:09.580 --> 01:38:17.580]  And then when that certificate of manufacturer is traded at the state level for the certificate of title
[01:38:17.580 --> 01:38:23.580]  There's a new beneficiary and a continuity of the trust that got set up in the beginning
[01:38:23.580 --> 01:38:26.580]  Why do you have to have a driver's license to buy a car?
[01:38:26.580 --> 01:38:35.580]  Because you have to show consent to the trust obligation just to buy the car
[01:38:35.580 --> 01:38:38.580]  Because why? Because it's already owned in trust
[01:38:38.580 --> 01:38:42.580]  It's owned in trust the minute it rolls off the assembly line
[01:38:42.580 --> 01:38:49.580]  And so it was complicated in the beginning, it's even more complicated now
[01:38:49.580 --> 01:38:59.580]  And we've got one particular well-known active appellate court in this country who has announced to the world
[01:38:59.580 --> 01:39:03.580]  There is no consent element in transportation
[01:39:03.580 --> 01:39:11.580]  And so it may be, I don't know, I normally teach this stuff for a fee
[01:39:11.580 --> 01:39:19.580]  And it may be that the only way that we're going to get enough litigation going is to open up this library of information
[01:39:19.580 --> 01:39:24.580]  We're in deep consultation in it right now
[01:39:24.580 --> 01:39:33.580]  The Catholics will understand extreme unction, and I'm not Catholic, but I understand extreme unction
[01:39:33.580 --> 01:39:36.580]  And we study into that, and that's where we are
[01:39:36.580 --> 01:39:39.580]  I can't think of a better analogy for it right now
[01:39:39.580 --> 01:39:46.580]  It is tantamount to intellectual warfare against this entire country
[01:39:46.580 --> 01:39:52.580]  And the question is, when we're faced with that, what is going to be the priority?
[01:39:52.580 --> 01:39:58.580]  The profit in teaching it, the P-R-O-F-I-T, from teaching it individually
[01:39:58.580 --> 01:40:07.580]  Or opening up the door to this to engage this intellectual battle where it needs to be engaged, which is across this entire country
[01:40:07.580 --> 01:40:14.580]  So that's a long way of saying, is there a less expensive way to access this material?
[01:40:14.580 --> 01:40:19.580]  The answer is, at some time in the near future there very well may be
[01:40:19.580 --> 01:40:23.580]  I mean, I've got red hair, some people say, well, it doesn't look red anymore
[01:40:23.580 --> 01:40:26.580]  I say, well, they cut my fuel back in the 70s
[01:40:26.580 --> 01:40:30.580]  But my point is, I am madder than a hornet
[01:40:30.580 --> 01:40:41.580]  I'm madder than a wet hen about the way the court system, through this one particular path, has treated this issue
[01:40:41.580 --> 01:40:43.580]  And the Supremes can't touch it
[01:40:43.580 --> 01:40:45.580]  Why? Because the Supremes look at the merits
[01:40:45.580 --> 01:40:50.580]  The Supremes say, we see the same commercial nexus that you see
[01:40:50.580 --> 01:40:58.580]  It was the way the Supremes taught us that we figured out that there was another beneficiary in the mix here
[01:40:58.580 --> 01:41:01.580]  And so they can't fix it, because why?
[01:41:01.580 --> 01:41:05.580]  Because on the merits we're saying there's no consent when we have consented
[01:41:05.580 --> 01:41:08.580]  So the ruling is going to stand
[01:41:08.580 --> 01:41:15.580]  But the appellate court is not being corrected in their statement that says there's no consent element
[01:41:15.580 --> 01:41:21.580]  Okay, so just between two litigants in this country who are doing it the right way
[01:41:21.580 --> 01:41:25.580]  It's going to take a long time to break through that barrier
[01:41:25.580 --> 01:41:28.580]  And so it's just a debate
[01:41:28.580 --> 01:41:31.580]  And just another way of saying, stay tuned
[01:41:31.580 --> 01:41:35.580]  It may be through this program that an announcement is made
[01:41:35.580 --> 01:41:38.580]  Here's where to start this study
[01:41:38.580 --> 01:41:42.580]  And contributions will be greatly appreciated
[01:41:42.580 --> 01:41:45.580]  But those who are in earnest about it
[01:41:45.580 --> 01:41:47.580]  And you sound like you are
[01:41:47.580 --> 01:41:49.580]  Then you would take this step by each through it
[01:41:49.580 --> 01:41:51.580]  It's a complicated case
[01:41:51.580 --> 01:41:53.580]  It's why I do it individually
[01:41:53.580 --> 01:41:55.580]  It's a complicated case
[01:41:55.580 --> 01:42:01.580]  We've got to understand the money system and basically the motive, plan, intent, scheme why we've been lied to
[01:42:01.580 --> 01:42:04.580]  Since the time this thing started
[01:42:04.580 --> 01:42:07.580]  And what we have to do in the way of defense
[01:42:07.580 --> 01:42:10.580]  All the way through trial
[01:42:10.580 --> 01:42:16.580]  To keep from forming the commercial nexus that's in shoved up our butt if we have it
[01:42:16.580 --> 01:42:22.580]  It's a lot of know-how to avoid the commercial nexus in that setting
[01:42:22.580 --> 01:42:25.580]  And when we know going into it
[01:42:25.580 --> 01:42:31.580]  That what this system exists for is money supply management
[01:42:31.580 --> 01:42:33.580]  We know why it is so complicated
[01:42:33.580 --> 01:42:38.580]  The bankers need to know that they have control over the money supply
[01:42:38.580 --> 01:42:41.580]  And what we're saying is, no you don't
[01:42:41.580 --> 01:42:43.580]  Because we're sick of being lied to
[01:42:43.580 --> 01:42:49.580]  About having to be regulated by commercial standards and our non-commercial conduct
[01:42:49.580 --> 01:42:51.580]  And that's what the transportation does
[01:42:51.580 --> 01:42:55.580]  And there's no way to be regulated in non-commercial conduct
[01:42:55.580 --> 01:42:58.580]  By commercial standards except by one way
[01:42:58.580 --> 01:43:00.580]  Our consent
[01:43:00.580 --> 01:43:04.580]  And so there's a lot of details about how we know that it is consent
[01:43:04.580 --> 01:43:06.580]  Where it comes from and how to terminate it
[01:43:06.580 --> 01:43:08.580]  And how not to form it during litigation
[01:43:08.580 --> 01:43:10.580]  That's the tough part
[01:43:10.580 --> 01:43:13.580]  We have to know how not to form it during the litigation
[01:43:13.580 --> 01:43:18.580]  It's training, we have to change our mind about core
[01:43:18.580 --> 01:43:23.580]  It is a complicated, it's not complicated intellectually
[01:43:23.580 --> 01:43:25.580]  It's a simple concept
[01:43:25.580 --> 01:43:27.580]  It's complicated procedurally
[01:43:27.580 --> 01:43:30.580]  Because we have to just stay on top of it
[01:43:30.580 --> 01:43:33.580]  I hope that answers your question
[01:43:33.580 --> 01:43:35.580]  Okay, hang on
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[01:46:48.580 --> 01:46:50.580]  We're talking to Jack in Texas
[01:46:50.580 --> 01:46:53.580]  Okay, Jack, you had a question for us
[01:46:53.580 --> 01:46:56.580]  Yes, I have a related question, kind of
[01:46:56.580 --> 01:47:02.580]  So from these other sources that have listened to
[01:47:02.580 --> 01:47:06.580]  Hold on, Jack, you're a little muffled
[01:47:06.580 --> 01:47:09.580]  Are you on a headset or something?
[01:47:09.580 --> 01:47:12.580]  No, no, I was just holding it away from my mouth
[01:47:12.580 --> 01:47:15.580]  Okay, that's better, go ahead
[01:47:15.580 --> 01:47:20.580]  Alright, so from these other sources
[01:47:20.580 --> 01:47:25.580]  I heard that they teach judges about this stuff
[01:47:25.580 --> 01:47:28.580]  When they take office
[01:47:28.580 --> 01:47:30.580]  They do, that's correct
[01:47:30.580 --> 01:47:33.580]  My question is
[01:47:33.580 --> 01:47:37.580]  Would I get a hold of one of those teachings
[01:47:37.580 --> 01:47:40.580]  You know, their teaching material for the judge
[01:47:40.580 --> 01:47:45.580]  Okay, what has been taught for the last several years
[01:47:45.580 --> 01:47:48.580]  In transportation areas
[01:47:48.580 --> 01:47:51.580]  Is material that we'll never see
[01:47:51.580 --> 01:47:53.580]  We've asked for it in discovery
[01:47:53.580 --> 01:47:55.580]  Single case, we don't get it
[01:47:55.580 --> 01:47:59.580]  Let's just consider that they consider it top secret
[01:47:59.580 --> 01:48:02.580]  It comes from the FBI and the SPLC
[01:48:02.580 --> 01:48:06.580]  And what they do in these materials is politically indoctrinate
[01:48:06.580 --> 01:48:09.580]  Everyone in the transportation enforcement system
[01:48:09.580 --> 01:48:14.580]  Into focusing on this group of people that call themselves sovereign citizens
[01:48:14.580 --> 01:48:19.580]  The point of the political indoctrination is to get the people on the front line
[01:48:19.580 --> 01:48:22.580]  Not thinking about consent
[01:48:22.580 --> 01:48:29.580]  There have been enough channels to transportation that is really, really, really close to the consent issued
[01:48:29.580 --> 01:48:34.580]  That the globalists have said we've got to stop this, what's the plan
[01:48:34.580 --> 01:48:36.580]  So the think tank came up and said
[01:48:36.580 --> 01:48:41.580]  Let's demonize a particular group who are always wrong
[01:48:41.580 --> 01:48:45.580]  And so they've demonized the sovereign citizens
[01:48:45.580 --> 01:48:52.580]  So the murder of a fellow named Chase Allen that happened the first of March of this year
[01:48:52.580 --> 01:48:54.580]  He's got a different tag on the back
[01:48:54.580 --> 01:48:57.580]  So it's a tag dispute that motivated the stop
[01:48:57.580 --> 01:49:04.580]  They used automatic scanning software to pull up all the stuff
[01:49:04.580 --> 01:49:09.580]  And he was wearing a sidearm and got shot to death
[01:49:09.580 --> 01:49:12.580]  There's some videos out there
[01:49:12.580 --> 01:49:15.580]  The ones I saw didn't really show it clearly
[01:49:15.580 --> 01:49:21.580]  Whether he was going for the handgun that was on his right thigh or the seatbelt
[01:49:21.580 --> 01:49:25.580]  Because the part right before the shooting is they've got the door open
[01:49:25.580 --> 01:49:27.580]  Which segment they don't show
[01:49:27.580 --> 01:49:29.580]  It's just it's closed and then it's open
[01:49:29.580 --> 01:49:31.580]  And they're reaching in to pull him out
[01:49:31.580 --> 01:49:34.580]  And I can't tell whether he's going for the seatbelt
[01:49:34.580 --> 01:49:38.580]  So that they don't strangle him trying to get him out of the car
[01:49:38.580 --> 01:49:39.580]  Whether he's going for the sidearm
[01:49:39.580 --> 01:49:43.580]  But what we hear is gun, gun, gun, gun, gun
[01:49:43.580 --> 01:49:49.580]  And then we hear and see and watch the barrage of hot lead being fired through the car
[01:49:49.580 --> 01:49:53.580]  The glass into the body of Chase Allen
[01:49:53.580 --> 01:50:00.580]  And one of the reports, the reviewing reports is that we hear the motor at very high RPM
[01:50:00.580 --> 01:50:03.580]  Which suggests that his foot's pressing the gas pedal
[01:50:03.580 --> 01:50:08.580]  Which may just be a consequence of the slump that way when he died
[01:50:08.580 --> 01:50:11.580]  I'm presuming that video to be accurate
[01:50:11.580 --> 01:50:13.580]  It's tough to know these days
[01:50:13.580 --> 01:50:18.580]  What were shown visually is not necessarily accurate
[01:50:18.580 --> 01:50:22.580]  So I'm presuming that all of that happened
[01:50:22.580 --> 01:50:26.580]  There's been enough commentary afterwards to support the idea
[01:50:26.580 --> 01:50:30.580]  That he was shot to death over a tag dispute
[01:50:30.580 --> 01:50:33.580]  There are several things he should have done differently
[01:50:33.580 --> 01:50:38.580]  But at the end of the day, it's a dangerous issue now
[01:50:38.580 --> 01:50:43.580]  And it's dangerous because the police, the prosecutors, the judges, the clerks
[01:50:43.580 --> 01:50:46.580]  Who handle these at the trial level
[01:50:46.580 --> 01:50:54.580]  Have been politically indoctrinated to treat anyone who challenges a traffic matter as a terrorist
[01:50:54.580 --> 01:50:59.580]  The name that they use in the materials is sovereign citizen
[01:50:59.580 --> 01:51:02.580]  And they don't know the defense
[01:51:02.580 --> 01:51:06.580]  They have no idea that there even is a defense
[01:51:06.580 --> 01:51:11.580]  We wonder why they're in the process of doing trials if they don't think there's a point for trial
[01:51:11.580 --> 01:51:13.580]  What is the point for trial?
[01:51:13.580 --> 01:51:15.580]  Well, there is a point for trial
[01:51:15.580 --> 01:51:17.580]  In the traffic area, it's the consent issue
[01:51:17.580 --> 01:51:21.580]  It's pretty much the only fact worth trying
[01:51:21.580 --> 01:51:23.580]  But there has to be a trial
[01:51:23.580 --> 01:51:25.580]  And this is why it is so important
[01:51:25.580 --> 01:51:29.580]  We understand what the defense is and how to defend ourselves
[01:51:29.580 --> 01:51:32.580]  Because it's very easy to fall into the trap
[01:51:32.580 --> 01:51:36.580]  Are you familiar with the Solitaire game called Labyrinth?
[01:51:36.580 --> 01:51:40.580]  It's a wooden box with the mobile table on top
[01:51:40.580 --> 01:51:43.580]  That you move the ball around the path
[01:51:43.580 --> 01:51:46.580]  The big size has 50 holes you can drop the ball in
[01:51:46.580 --> 01:51:49.580]  And the objective is not to drop it in any of them
[01:51:49.580 --> 01:51:51.580]  Are you familiar with that game?
[01:51:51.580 --> 01:51:53.580]  Yeah, I've seen it
[01:51:53.580 --> 01:52:00.580]  Yeah, it's called Labyrinth and that is the trial mechanism for all these commercial nexus things
[01:52:00.580 --> 01:52:04.580]  The point being, if we drop the ball in hole 1, we've consented
[01:52:04.580 --> 01:52:08.580]  If we drop the ball in hole 50, we've consented
[01:52:08.580 --> 01:52:10.580]  And we've got to go through that entire course
[01:52:10.580 --> 01:52:13.580]  And it's just about as difficult as that game
[01:52:13.580 --> 01:52:17.580]  There are people that do it, but they've done it for hours and hours and years on end
[01:52:17.580 --> 01:52:19.580]  And now they've got it down
[01:52:19.580 --> 01:52:23.580]  Okay, that's the traffic defense mechanism
[01:52:23.580 --> 01:52:25.580]  It's the Labyrinth game
[01:52:25.580 --> 01:52:31.580]  It's possible to maneuver that ball past all 50 holes without dropping it in the hole
[01:52:31.580 --> 01:52:33.580]  We have to do that
[01:52:33.580 --> 01:52:37.580]  We have to maneuver the ball around all those holes or else we've consented
[01:52:37.580 --> 01:52:41.580]  And it's so wickedly designed that way, because why?
[01:52:41.580 --> 01:52:45.580]  Because it's a money supply management system
[01:52:45.580 --> 01:52:53.580]  It is the means by which certain amount of paid debt, the amount, is removed from general circulation
[01:52:53.580 --> 01:52:57.580]  We have to understand the problem in order to solve it
[01:52:57.580 --> 01:53:01.580]  So, you asked about materials
[01:53:01.580 --> 01:53:04.580]  I don't know anything that's available generally
[01:53:04.580 --> 01:53:09.580]  I won't recommend anything generally unless I've written it
[01:53:09.580 --> 01:53:14.580]  Because why? Because I haven't heard anyone else in the country who actually understands the problem
[01:53:14.580 --> 01:53:17.580]  And until we understand the problem, we can't solve it
[01:53:17.580 --> 01:53:21.580]  I happen to have two court rulings
[01:53:21.580 --> 01:53:25.580]  A granting of a special appearance, which is the capacity challenge
[01:53:25.580 --> 01:53:31.580]  And a granting of the plea of the jurisdiction, which is the lack of commercial nexus challenge
[01:53:31.580 --> 01:53:36.580]  In a case that took 10 years through pretrial to get to that ruling
[01:53:36.580 --> 01:53:39.580]  Some interesting details about that case
[01:53:39.580 --> 01:53:42.580]  But I haven't been able to reproduce it
[01:53:42.580 --> 01:53:47.580]  Because the car involved in the ticket was a post-72 manufacturer
[01:53:47.580 --> 01:53:49.580]  It was a 97, I think
[01:53:49.580 --> 01:53:55.580]  But that was demolished after it was salvaged, after it was traded in
[01:53:55.580 --> 01:54:02.580]  During this 10-year gap, the commercial nexus for that was terminated by the normal commercial process
[01:54:02.580 --> 01:54:05.580]  Van was traded in and it was salvaged
[01:54:05.580 --> 01:54:08.580]  The only other car ahead was the 57 Chevy
[01:54:08.580 --> 01:54:16.580]  And the only beneficiary at that time was the state where the last certificate of title was issued
[01:54:16.580 --> 01:54:24.580]  So terminate the commercial nexus at the state level was sufficient to satisfy the no-jurisdiction element
[01:54:24.580 --> 01:54:31.580]  We haven't been able to reproduce it because the cars have been manufactured after 1972
[01:54:31.580 --> 01:54:33.580]  And they changed the game
[01:54:33.580 --> 01:54:40.580]  And it's been a really, really arduous, painful kick in the head to figure out
[01:54:40.580 --> 01:54:43.580]  Oh, we got another beneficiary in the mix
[01:54:43.580 --> 01:54:46.580]  But same process
[01:54:46.580 --> 01:54:47.580]  It's the same process
[01:54:47.580 --> 01:54:49.580]  And I don't want to get too much of that on the radio
[01:54:49.580 --> 01:54:51.580]  You'd asked about materials
[01:54:51.580 --> 01:54:53.580]  So there's just a lot to cover
[01:54:53.580 --> 01:54:55.580]  It's a lot of work to get in mind
[01:54:55.580 --> 01:54:58.580]  It's a lot of work to defend it
[01:54:58.580 --> 01:55:00.580]  And people think, well, it's a simple matter
[01:55:00.580 --> 01:55:02.580]  It should be a simple defense
[01:55:02.580 --> 01:55:07.580]  It's a complicated defense because it's a money management system mechanism
[01:55:07.580 --> 01:55:09.580]  Wow
[01:55:09.580 --> 01:55:11.580]  Well, Harman, can I ask you?
[01:55:11.580 --> 01:55:16.580]  You mentioned that you've gotten a ruling
[01:55:16.580 --> 01:55:17.580]  Yes, two
[01:55:17.580 --> 01:55:19.580]  From a high court that says that
[01:55:19.580 --> 01:55:21.580]  From a trial court
[01:55:21.580 --> 01:55:22.580]  Okay
[01:55:22.580 --> 01:55:25.580]  These are both county court rulings
[01:55:25.580 --> 01:55:33.580]  And you said that they had ruled that there is no consent issue here
[01:55:33.580 --> 01:55:35.580]  Oh, that one, yes
[01:55:35.580 --> 01:55:38.580]  Okay, that's an appellate court
[01:55:38.580 --> 01:55:44.580]  I was wondering if you'd be able to address that via declaratory judgment
[01:55:44.580 --> 01:55:51.580]  Would you be able to raise that issue and say, hey, I need to be clear about my rights, my status
[01:55:51.580 --> 01:55:52.580]  Give me a room here
[01:55:52.580 --> 01:55:54.580]  Here's two problems
[01:55:54.580 --> 01:55:56.580]  One is political
[01:55:56.580 --> 01:56:05.580]  The system is never, ever, ever going to give a ruling that says, yeah, y'all been on the take for this from the get
[01:56:05.580 --> 01:56:15.580]  The entire point of these codes outside the penal code is to sucker the individual into a fiduciary obligation
[01:56:15.580 --> 01:56:21.580]  And then jail them when they don't do what appears to be what they're being told to do
[01:56:21.580 --> 01:56:23.580]  We're never going to hear that
[01:56:23.580 --> 01:56:26.580]  We're never, ever in a million years going to hear that
[01:56:26.580 --> 01:56:28.580]  That's the political side
[01:56:28.580 --> 01:56:33.580]  So for that reason alone, no, we're very unlikely to get a declaratory judgment on that
[01:56:33.580 --> 01:56:40.580]  The reason we will be told that we can't get a declaratory judgment is because that sounds inequity
[01:56:40.580 --> 01:56:42.580]  And we always have a remedy at law
[01:56:42.580 --> 01:56:43.580]  What's the remedy at law?
[01:56:43.580 --> 01:56:46.580]  The defense and the charge
[01:56:46.580 --> 01:56:53.580]  When we get charged, now we defend ourselves that that is an at law process
[01:56:53.580 --> 01:57:02.580]  And they'll relegate us religiously to the at law process and not let us get into equity
[01:57:02.580 --> 01:57:05.580]  We have to have a case or controversy
[01:57:05.580 --> 01:57:08.580]  Okay, so that doesn't happen until we're charged
[01:57:08.580 --> 01:57:13.580]  From their point of view, there really isn't a case or controversy until there's a charge
[01:57:13.580 --> 01:57:19.580]  And at the time of the charge, we've got to know how to defend ourselves in that system
[01:57:19.580 --> 01:57:24.580]  For there to be any possible confirmation
[01:57:24.580 --> 01:57:28.580]  That confirmation will never address the consent issue
[01:57:28.580 --> 01:57:30.580]  It'll never happen
[01:57:30.580 --> 01:57:32.580]  We just have to know what's at issue
[01:57:32.580 --> 01:57:37.580]  So when they say, oh yeah, this procedural problem, that procedural problem, and et cetera
[01:57:37.580 --> 01:57:41.580]  We'll never see in print the consent issue
[01:57:41.580 --> 01:57:45.580]  I've got two hours of discussion on one particular case
[01:57:45.580 --> 01:57:47.580]  That's a maritime case
[01:57:47.580 --> 01:57:49.580]  It defines vessel
[01:57:49.580 --> 01:57:54.580]  The definition of vessel and the definition of vehicle are practically identical
[01:57:54.580 --> 01:58:02.580]  The ruling that defined, that construes the definition of vessel doesn't mention the word consent once
[01:58:02.580 --> 01:58:05.580]  But the guy didn't consent
[01:58:05.580 --> 01:58:08.580]  The trial court ended up having no jurisdiction
[01:58:08.580 --> 01:58:15.580]  And the connection between the two is the homework for the student
[01:58:15.580 --> 01:58:17.580]  Wow
[01:58:17.580 --> 01:58:20.580]  So no, I don't expect we'll ever get a declaratory judgment
[01:58:20.580 --> 01:58:24.580]  We will be restricted to our remedies at law
[01:58:24.580 --> 01:58:28.580]  Wow, this has been an amazing presentation
[01:58:28.580 --> 01:58:31.580]  I'm really glad that Randy got you on tonight
[01:58:31.580 --> 01:58:34.580]  Glad to do it
[01:58:34.580 --> 01:58:38.580]  We may need to do it again because there's just so much to cover
[01:58:38.580 --> 01:58:41.580]  It certainly sounds like it
[01:58:41.580 --> 01:58:42.580]  I would certainly like that
[01:58:42.580 --> 01:58:44.580]  Alright, Randy, we're at the end of the show tonight
[01:58:44.580 --> 01:58:46.580]  You want to close us out?
[01:58:46.580 --> 01:58:47.580]  Good night
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