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[00:00.000 --> 00:05.000] The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution.
[00:05.000 --> 00:09.000] They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[00:09.000 --> 00:10.000] Our liberty depends on it.
[00:10.000 --> 00:16.000] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember your First Amendment rights.
[00:16.000 --> 00:18.000] Privacy is under attack.
[00:18.000 --> 00:21.000] When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[00:21.000 --> 00:26.000] And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[00:26.000 --> 00:31.000] So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
[00:31.000 --> 00:34.000] Privacy. It's worth hanging on to.
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[00:45.000 --> 00:47.000] Spar. It's what fighters do.
[00:47.000 --> 00:50.000] It's also how I remember the five guarantees of the First Amendment.
[00:50.000 --> 00:53.000] If you plan to take away my rights, I'm going to spar with you.
[00:53.000 --> 00:56.000] Spar with an extra P.
[00:56.000 --> 01:02.000] S for speech, P for press, another P for petition, A for assembly, and R for religion.
[01:02.000 --> 01:08.000] Most Americans are familiar with the First Amendment guarantees of free speech, press, assembly, and religion.
[01:08.000 --> 01:10.000] But petition for redress is another matter.
[01:10.000 --> 01:14.000] We have the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
[01:14.000 --> 01:20.000] It means that if we're unhappy with what's going on in our government, we can spell out the reasons without fear of being thrown into jail.
[01:20.000 --> 01:30.000] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[01:30.000 --> 01:34.000] The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution.
[01:34.000 --> 01:37.000] They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[01:37.000 --> 01:39.000] Our liberty depends on it.
[01:39.000 --> 01:45.000] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember one of your constitutional rights.
[01:45.000 --> 01:47.000] Privacy is under attack.
[01:47.000 --> 01:51.000] When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[01:51.000 --> 01:56.000] And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish, too.
[01:56.000 --> 02:01.000] So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
[02:01.000 --> 02:04.000] Privacy. It's worth hanging on to.
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[02:15.000 --> 02:22.000] When I think of the Second Amendment, I visualize myself wrapping my two arms around the Bill of Rights in a big old bear hug.
[02:22.000 --> 02:26.000] It's how I remember that the Second Amendment guarantees us the right to bear arms.
[02:26.000 --> 02:30.000] Arms that embrace our freedoms and won't let anyone take them away without a fight.
[02:30.000 --> 02:33.000] Get it? Two arms? Bear hug? Bear arms?
[02:33.000 --> 02:38.000] The late Senator Hubert Humphrey captured the spirit of the Second Amendment so well when he said,
[02:38.000 --> 02:45.000] The right of the citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary government, one more safeguard against the tyranny,
[02:45.000 --> 02:50.000] which now appears remote in America, but which historically has proved to always be possible.
[02:50.000 --> 03:09.000] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[03:20.000 --> 03:27.000] Whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do?
[03:27.000 --> 03:32.000] Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[03:32.000 --> 03:38.000] Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[03:38.000 --> 03:43.000] When you were eight and you had bad traits, you'd go to school and learn the golden rule.
[03:43.000 --> 03:46.000] So why are you acting like a bloody fool?
[03:46.000 --> 03:51.000] If ya get Imma then ya must get kuul. Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do?
[03:51.000 --> 03:56.000] Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do?
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[04:03.000 --> 04:08.000] You chuck it on your mother. And you chuck it on your father. You chuck it on your brother. And you chuck it on your sister.
[04:08.000 --> 04:10.600] You chuck it on me That's what I'm gonna chuck it on me
[04:10.700 --> 04:15.680] Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[04:16.000 --> 04:21.480] Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[04:22.000 --> 04:26.680] Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[04:27.400 --> 04:32.280] Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[04:33.560 --> 04:35.160] Nobody now giving no break
[05:05.160 --> 05:33.400] Why did you have to act so mean Don't you know you're a human being
[05:33.400 --> 05:38.600] Born of a mother with a lover for father Reflection comes and reflection goes
[05:38.600 --> 05:49.320] I know sometimes you wanna let go Hey, hey, hey, I know sometimes you wanna let go
[05:49.320 --> 05:54.760] Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do What you gonna do when they come for you
[05:54.760 --> 06:00.040] Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do What you gonna do when they come for you
[06:00.040 --> 06:11.160] You're too bad, you're too rude You're too bad, you're too rude
[06:11.160 --> 06:16.680] Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do What you gonna do when they come for you
[06:16.680 --> 06:22.200] Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do What you gonna do when they come for you
[06:22.200 --> 06:24.920] You chuck it on that one You chuck it on this one
[06:24.920 --> 06:27.640] You chuck it on your mother And you chuck it on your father
[06:27.640 --> 06:43.960] good evening this is the rule of law radio randy kelton i'm brett fountain and this is the this
[06:43.960 --> 06:50.440] is friday the 24th of march 2023 now randy didn't tell me the year
[06:50.440 --> 06:59.080] this is friday march 24 2023 and i'm going to go ahead and open up the
[06:59.960 --> 07:07.720] caller lines if you want to call in it is 512-646-1984
[07:08.920 --> 07:16.280] 512-646-1984 so yeah you can call in and if you have any kind of questions
[07:16.280 --> 07:24.520] i know one person at least was planning on calling in this evening and just we'll see what we can do
[07:26.520 --> 07:32.600] until then i'll go ahead and just start out by mentioning a little bit about records requests
[07:35.560 --> 07:37.800] today i was a court watcher
[07:37.800 --> 07:47.160] and you know i like to do that sometimes and just go sit in on somebody else's case i didn't have
[07:47.160 --> 07:54.680] anything going on no case of mine but i went to just watch and see what's going on it really does
[07:54.680 --> 08:02.760] not take long at all if you ever do this you'll see it's pretty quick for somebody one of your
[08:02.760 --> 08:15.640] public officials to do something wrong you know we have our legislature we the people through our
[08:15.640 --> 08:23.960] legislature have set up a lot of rules on how we expect our public officials to behave we say hey
[08:23.960 --> 08:30.280] we want you to be transparent with records we're going to allow you to take care of our records
[08:30.280 --> 08:34.920] for us we're going to hire you you're going to get a paycheck and you're going to take care of
[08:34.920 --> 08:40.600] our records and whenever we want to see these records we're going to come to you and ask to
[08:40.600 --> 08:47.800] see them and you are going to bend over backwards and be as transparent as possible somehow they
[08:47.800 --> 08:55.000] don't excel at that part very often and it doesn't take long if you're curious about something
[08:55.000 --> 09:01.480] it doesn't take long for them to be acting like an obstacle and criminally so
[09:04.360 --> 09:10.920] so yeah today i was i went to sit in on a court and first thing i wanted to do is
[09:11.640 --> 09:18.680] get a copy of the docket you know it's just a few pages that they typically hand out or
[09:18.680 --> 09:24.520] or leave several copies posted up on a bulletin board and if you want one you
[09:24.520 --> 09:30.280] just grab it on your way into the court or you can go over to the court clerk and just ask her
[09:30.280 --> 09:37.320] okay can you print me one this is not even something that it doesn't normally even need
[09:37.320 --> 09:43.880] to go in the category of a records request but these people today wanted to act like it is
[09:43.880 --> 09:51.960] is and so they wanted to charge me for per page copies of it well i didn't want to fumble around
[09:51.960 --> 09:56.840] with any cash at the moment i wanted to go ahead and get into that courtroom because i thought hey
[09:56.840 --> 10:05.960] they're about to start i'll uh check on that later but yeah so i so the lady told me we don't
[10:05.960 --> 10:14.760] normally make copies of this for people but if you want a copy i will charge you 25 cents a page
[10:16.840 --> 10:22.120] i said well let me just uh take a picture of it and then you won't have to make copies and
[10:22.120 --> 10:25.800] i won't have to fish around for any cash and i can just go on in there and you can go about your
[10:25.800 --> 10:33.720] business so she smiled and she went back to her business and she said oh that'd be fine so she
[10:33.720 --> 10:40.440] she took off and went to work on something else and i went into the courtroom and you know pinching
[10:40.440 --> 10:45.240] and zooming on a small screen i decided i was going to go back out there and get a copy after all
[10:47.640 --> 10:51.400] she didn't want to give it to me actually it was another lady that didn't want to give it to me
[10:51.960 --> 10:58.920] she said no i can't do that that you can't or you won't there's a copy machine right there
[10:58.920 --> 11:05.880] there so she said i won't i said okay what's your name she wouldn't tell me
[11:08.920 --> 11:11.240] funny how that works so
[11:14.120 --> 11:25.080] my next move i went to the hr director and i want full names official titles and compensation
[11:25.080 --> 11:31.000] amounts for everybody that works in that whole department all of them in fact all of them that
[11:31.000 --> 11:38.440] work for any of these four judges so i'm sure that's uh gonna make some people ruffle a few
[11:38.440 --> 11:44.600] feathers but hey i'm the master they're the servants they don't get to make the call of
[11:44.600 --> 11:50.600] whether they would like for me to know something or not it's my record well we do have one caller
[11:50.600 --> 11:56.120] on the board already uh there's that means there are three more slots if anybody wants to call in
[11:56.120 --> 12:04.920] it's five one two six four six nineteen eighty four and now we're going to go to daisy in ohio
[12:05.720 --> 12:13.000] good evening daisy what's on your mind hey hi brett how are you hey doing great
[12:13.000 --> 12:26.600] great awesome um i was just calling because i was wanting to get some advice like usual
[12:28.360 --> 12:39.640] um so i have my uh mandamus actions for the public records request in the school district
[12:39.640 --> 12:49.640] or against the school district and i'm up to seven filed so my seven requests are mandamuses
[12:49.640 --> 13:00.600] oh no i'm seven separate mandamus uh wow meetings are filed yeah and um four of them we've been
[13:00.600 --> 13:06.760] litigating and we're in discovery and the other three were still in the pleading phase they've
[13:06.760 --> 13:18.120] answered and then i'm set to reply we had one mediation which we got very close um but we didn't
[13:19.320 --> 13:24.360] end up settling and that was and that's why i was kind of getting wanting maybe a little your
[13:24.360 --> 13:35.880] opinion because the four that are in discovery we have a lot of motions and actually the motions
[13:35.880 --> 13:42.360] have now been kind of sitting for like 20 days i've had a couple things happen so i had to um
[13:42.360 --> 13:47.400] you know family type of emergency well i don't know if they're emergencies but priorities
[13:48.120 --> 13:56.040] and so i had to kind of stop the the action for a few weeks and so now i'm ready to get back in
[13:56.040 --> 14:05.640] the but it's it's i'm quickly seeing how i'm just kind of getting buried with so many
[14:06.520 --> 14:14.840] um actions and then all the different like it's very hard to keep up um with you know especially
[14:14.840 --> 14:21.400] in the discovery because they're they're like not answering things or they're answering a handful of
[14:21.400 --> 14:27.320] things and there's there's not like my they haven't answered any of my interoperability and just the
[14:27.880 --> 14:36.120] the different motions we have in i have actually um i talked to uh uh james he he was kind enough
[14:36.120 --> 14:41.480] and kind of advised me and really thinks that i should focus on my federal suit against them
[14:42.280 --> 14:47.480] getting that written and and that that'll be that and that i'm getting a bit distracted by
[14:47.480 --> 14:55.320] having so much uh you know following through with these mandamus um for the public record so i do
[14:55.320 --> 15:04.200] think that that is my main goal is to try to just get these through like don't spend all my
[15:05.240 --> 15:10.040] brain cells and effort like trying to follow track them down and everything so i had that
[15:10.040 --> 15:16.440] thought and then i was like well let me actually reached out to see if they'd be interested in
[15:16.440 --> 15:25.000] a second mediation and they did agree to that okay so well i can't say i have much of an opinion
[15:25.560 --> 15:33.960] of my own about whether you should um finish and cover you know no stone unturned so to speak
[15:33.960 --> 15:39.800] in the state before you go to the fed i know some people are just itching to get in the fed
[15:39.800 --> 15:47.480] itching to get in the fed and i hear randy talking about uh you need to make sure that you
[15:48.120 --> 15:54.920] give at least there might be something that you don't exhaust but the term exhaust is used at
[15:54.920 --> 16:03.960] the federal level to um to indicate that you've you've explored every avenue of remedy and you're
[16:03.960 --> 16:14.200] coming to them last uh so you might consider that it sounds let me just make one um remark about
[16:14.200 --> 16:23.960] your you're in ohio and a mandamus there sounds much more involved than i would expect maybe it's
[16:23.960 --> 16:31.560] just ohio you have discovery going on interrogatories you have uh motions in connection with the mandamus
[16:31.560 --> 16:38.600] and that's um it's like it's its own civil suit so that sounds very very involved
[16:41.640 --> 16:50.600] when i in texas we we just lob a grenade to the attorney general we say it's basically a one-page
[16:50.600 --> 16:56.520] criminal complaint and that's it so let's talk some more about those differences after we come
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[19:25.560 --> 19:29.880] so
[19:29.880 --> 19:37.880] this is
[19:37.880 --> 19:43.240] it's spinning like it's out of control on the edge of a hole inside a deep dark bone
[19:43.960 --> 19:47.880] i'm always on the lookout for something to soothe my soul
[19:47.880 --> 19:58.360] so i sit back and i watch the other than sunfall and i see justice
[19:58.360 --> 20:10.840] is
[20:19.080 --> 20:22.840] from the man that came all the way from gallery
[20:22.840 --> 20:28.760] i was looking for a safe and warm place to be where i don't have to work so hard to be free
[20:28.760 --> 20:35.640] some guys are trying to rewrite history but they got caught now them guys got the plea looks like
[20:35.640 --> 20:56.680] justice okay we are back this is the rule of law radio randy kelton i'm brad fountain
[20:56.680 --> 21:03.880] and we are talking with daisy in ohio and daisy when we went out we were talking about
[21:03.880 --> 21:09.800] how it's different in ohio than i would expect it to be i don't know how many states do a mandamus
[21:09.800 --> 21:20.600] this way but it sounds like you've got your hands full with a pretty much everything i would expect
[21:20.600 --> 21:26.120] to find in a normal civil lawsuit sounds like you've got it going on with each one of these
[21:26.120 --> 21:32.680] seven mandamus actions so yeah i can understand how that would be uh difficult to keep up with
[21:32.680 --> 21:38.840] everything for sure hopefully your digital organization is really good and you're
[21:41.080 --> 21:49.880] you're leveling up on your tracking skills there but um you were asking about how to
[21:51.320 --> 21:57.640] um how to know whether it's time to go to the fed or not and some people were encouraging you to
[21:57.640 --> 22:04.360] to just go ahead and skip don't don't waste your time with the state and just just jump just go to
[22:04.360 --> 22:11.080] the fed well randy i know i've heard you say before that you want to try to go to the fed
[22:11.080 --> 22:17.640] once you've exhausted all of your options in the state how would you describe or where do you draw
[22:17.640 --> 22:24.920] that line okay what i generally try to do is get the state to screw up all it can
[22:24.920 --> 22:31.720] before i go to the fed i want to give the state every opportunity that i can and the fed is going
[22:31.720 --> 22:38.440] to want to know did you exhaust all of your available remedies and when i go there i want
[22:38.440 --> 22:44.200] to be able to tell him yes i have and if he the case you have here is not inherently federal
[22:46.040 --> 22:52.600] inherently a state issue it's open records that's you're asking for state records
[22:52.600 --> 23:00.360] you're asking for state records that's purely state how would you get from the state to the fed
[23:01.560 --> 23:08.600] so my fed suit is for a deprivation of rights and a first amendment retaliation and the
[23:08.600 --> 23:16.680] so it wouldn't be for what they're doing now except maybe um maybe there's some deprivation
[23:16.680 --> 23:22.680] of rights just in the fact of them you know obstructing justice and with hold on hold on hold
[23:22.680 --> 23:35.160] on uh we were speaking to a state suit being removed to the fed or a state action moved to
[23:35.160 --> 23:44.440] the fed so you already have a case in the fed is that correct no i don't i what i'm saying is that
[23:44.440 --> 23:54.360] instead of focusing my energy on fighting them on the public records violation to switch my focus
[23:56.200 --> 24:00.440] for writing my federal lawsuit and getting that in front of them because they've already made me an
[24:00.440 --> 24:08.680] offer on to get rid of me over the the mandamus public records violations and i have a strong
[24:08.680 --> 24:15.640] um retaliation case and the the public records are just connected to help prove my case more
[24:16.440 --> 24:20.600] um and they're fighting me a lot on giving me those records which is why i'm kind of stuck
[24:20.600 --> 24:29.000] over here in the appeals court trying to litigate that but um it's becoming apparent that
[24:29.000 --> 24:39.480] how important is that appeals case to you how important is this case are these cases
[24:41.240 --> 24:46.920] yeah you're talking about a case you're having problems with they've already made you a offer
[24:48.200 --> 24:55.000] you're in the appellate court and you indicated this wasn't your primary issue
[24:55.000 --> 25:02.680] is this a not a fight you want to have can you take that settlement and go on to other things
[25:03.880 --> 25:10.440] well i think that's what since i did just today agree to a second mediation then i am for sure
[25:10.440 --> 25:16.600] i'm pretty sure that that's um i'll take the settlement because i'll get something and then
[25:16.600 --> 25:26.440] i can work on the feds too um i was just curious maybe about um what i'm kind of trying to decide
[25:26.440 --> 25:34.760] what i should take based on what they offered me before and then also would just a suggestion as
[25:35.400 --> 25:44.920] should i just um keep filing into these cases because they're um they're like they're uh what
[25:44.920 --> 25:50.120] is that called they're not they're not they're not complying with discovery and there's motions that
[25:50.120 --> 25:57.000] need to be ruled on or um you know since we are setting up for mediation just stop just stop and
[25:57.000 --> 26:02.200] just go to mediation or should i just should i keep filing into the cases while we wait for
[26:02.200 --> 26:15.160] a second mediation depends on how bad you want to have this fight if you're standing on some point
[26:15.160 --> 26:21.240] of law or some need to have everything everybody do everything right well that ain't ever going to
[26:21.240 --> 26:29.160] happen and you have to pick your fights very carefully you can get into more fights than you
[26:29.160 --> 26:35.080] handle and i think you're beginning to realize that when you get into a fight it can be
[26:36.120 --> 26:43.320] overwhelming at times and to try to juggle two or three at once you're likely to screw them all up
[26:43.320 --> 26:52.520] because you can't keep up yeah now ask me how i know that i have real good experience at taking
[26:52.520 --> 27:00.280] on too much and not be able to keep up i'm going to suggest pick your fights real careful which
[27:00.280 --> 27:10.280] fights most important to you yeah above all don't be like you're bailing out because you take a deal
[27:10.280 --> 27:17.800] from these guys the only only way we get to them is get in the pocket yeah they'll give you some
[27:17.800 --> 27:25.240] money next fight you have with them they've already paid your way right yeah that's what
[27:25.240 --> 27:32.280] i'm thinking so now my now i'm kind of switching gears to um to negotiation strategies or you know
[27:32.280 --> 27:39.160] how to um you know because we got really close last time but i i was kind of stubborn and
[27:39.160 --> 27:46.600] wouldn't budge off of one number which i think it'll all work out but so now i'm thinking you
[27:46.600 --> 27:52.760] know i want to be a little more strategic but um it's exactly what you said is that even just the
[27:52.760 --> 28:01.320] last three i'm sorry played your hand likely they're going to come back with more money
[28:05.000 --> 28:10.520] well this is talker yeah i'm learning how to play that
[28:10.520 --> 28:18.280] but i think it'll work out because last time they they offered on just three of the cases and now
[28:18.280 --> 28:25.320] they're seven so in my mind they should double the amount more than double the cases so that's
[28:25.320 --> 28:31.800] kind of what i'm going in to yeah but if they double the amount you're being generous by cutting
[28:31.800 --> 28:37.320] them some slack right that's what i want them to think it's like okay well what's that that
[28:37.320 --> 28:48.600] seventh case will just be a bonus you guys get that one free so then one last let them take you
[28:48.600 --> 28:57.240] to adjudicate the other case right yeah because then i'll just i'll just get that federal suit in
[28:57.240 --> 29:03.160] front of them and that that'll that'll that'll be it because we when you were saying about exhausting
[29:03.160 --> 29:10.440] all efforts there is been even an investigation opened a third party has opened an investigation
[29:10.440 --> 29:16.920] and she'll have a report done for the retaliation and harassment from the school district so i've
[29:16.920 --> 29:23.880] gotten a good you know paperwork or a paper trail between fighting them on you know in the appeals
[29:23.880 --> 29:29.320] court and then also having an investigation open and my daughter being pulled from the school so
[29:29.320 --> 29:34.920] so once i get that federal suit written i don't think it's going to take much for them to i don't
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[33:30.200 --> 33:31.560] okay
[33:41.160 --> 33:45.960] one thing that concerns me doing this show is we get people called in the show and they're
[33:45.960 --> 33:57.000] mistreated by public officials and sometimes they think they owe it to themselves and the country
[33:57.000 --> 34:06.360] and their neighbors to fight these guys to the death and i don't bother yeah on every little
[34:06.360 --> 34:14.520] point yeah there are those of us out here are in the position to fight these guys and there are
[34:14.520 --> 34:19.800] some of us out here who don't have anything to fight for so they can pick something fight whatever
[34:19.800 --> 34:27.560] they want to you on the other hand you're busy pick your fights real carefully you don't have
[34:27.560 --> 34:33.160] to stay in a fight just because you're in the fight if it'll serve you better to make a deal make a deal
[34:36.680 --> 34:43.800] yeah that's exactly i thank you for that that's that's for sure my um experience you know
[34:43.800 --> 34:49.400] going in this and just being like wait this is this would take everything they every time they
[34:49.400 --> 34:53.400] communicate with me they they're they're doing something wrong so i am learning i
[34:55.400 --> 35:00.840] is the advice i need because i want to pull back i mean i could every time they answer
[35:00.840 --> 35:07.480] they're just making stuff up they're lying they're not answering it is right it's amazing
[35:07.480 --> 35:13.960] it's amazing playing all this to the core and then they get you know how to communicate it clearly and
[35:13.960 --> 35:20.520] how does you know it's just it it's not that it's not worth it it's just there's a bigger
[35:20.520 --> 35:27.000] there's a bigger thing that i could go for and really focus on and since they're already off
[35:27.000 --> 35:34.120] willing to it's actually i'm realizing that it's worth it for me not to put in so much time
[35:34.120 --> 35:38.680] if we're if we can make a settlement and i don't even care about half these records it's really
[35:38.680 --> 35:44.120] just the principle of it like i don't even care about it like i don't need them they just didn't
[35:44.120 --> 35:49.960] give them to be which is against you know their duty so some of them i care about some of them
[35:51.800 --> 35:57.800] if it's just the principle take the money and chuckle all the way to the bank
[35:57.800 --> 36:03.960] all the way to the bank that's what i plan to do that's what i'm trying to do
[36:05.560 --> 36:08.040] oh no special duty to fight these guys
[36:10.440 --> 36:17.000] just uh they've got a good uh you know you've kicked them around pretty good uh yeah gotta
[36:17.000 --> 36:26.440] uh we'll wait for the next guy to soften them up some more but keep your eye on the prize if you have a
[36:28.200 --> 36:32.440] awesome yeah no i'm still going to get them but i'm going to get them with my federal suit this
[36:32.440 --> 36:41.960] one was just like you know pre-gaming one of the hard things here is is when we go to court we
[36:41.960 --> 36:50.360] have an expectation that the court is our protection their integrity is our safety
[36:51.480 --> 36:58.200] and when they act without integrity they threaten us and we feel like we have to fight them
[37:00.040 --> 37:02.680] because they're threatening our safety no you don't
[37:02.680 --> 37:10.280] back up what's going to beat them up the worst what's going to hurt them the worst and help me
[37:11.560 --> 37:17.480] otherwise they'll drag you down every possible rabbit trail to keep you from actually finding
[37:17.480 --> 37:33.960] you from actually finding rib i mean let me give you an example of how they're responding to
[37:34.920 --> 37:40.920] my yeah okay okay understand i've got about a three second delay on my mic
[37:40.920 --> 37:46.440] so don't wait for me we're both waiting for each other and then we both speak at the same time
[37:47.080 --> 37:52.040] but that's been happening since i've been doing this show and i haven't figured out a way to fix
[37:52.040 --> 38:01.960] it so if what i have to say is important i'll talk over you if not just go ahead i'll shut up
[38:03.000 --> 38:09.080] okay well i just want to give this one example of how they're um of how they're answering things
[38:09.080 --> 38:16.600] so the one the one uh public records request i made which is the one i'm quite interested in
[38:16.600 --> 38:25.400] is for um all internal communications about myself and my daughter and they they they didn't respond
[38:25.400 --> 38:32.840] to that it's been over six months i filed the mandamus and and their lawyer just answered it
[38:32.840 --> 38:40.520] and she put in as her defense that it's um that they're not giving me that because it's uh
[38:40.520 --> 38:48.920] protected student information under the the education act so i just think that's hilarious
[38:48.920 --> 38:55.960] because it's my own kid so they're saying i'm not entitled to the information on my own kid so they
[38:55.960 --> 39:02.360] just i mean this is that's just one example of how they just throw anything out there just to stall
[39:02.360 --> 39:09.960] delay you know so i just wanted to share that that little example that's what they're paying
[39:09.960 --> 39:19.000] the lawyer for take it you have uh bar grieved them uh into the stone age well i'm a little
[39:19.000 --> 39:25.080] behind i have some bar grievances over and i need i'm past my 30 days and that's actually and that's
[39:25.080 --> 39:30.680] why i'm ready to file another one another round to the law firm but i did i was curious if you
[39:30.680 --> 39:36.520] guys thought that i should do that ahead of the mediation or if i should wait because i'm not i
[39:36.520 --> 39:42.200] don't know that i want to like make the lawyer mad if that if that would be good or bad for me
[39:42.200 --> 39:50.440] i've already done a round um a couple rounds the the lawyer is answering to his client
[39:50.440 --> 39:59.720] whether he's mad or not is not really relevant but bar grieving him was is technically totally
[39:59.720 --> 40:09.080] separate from what's going on here and it will probably simply make him more careful and make
[40:09.080 --> 40:19.000] you a bigger thorn in his side and give him reason to want his boss to satisfy you so you would be
[40:19.000 --> 40:25.080] you so you will go away and quit beating him up yeah get this over with i don't want to deal with
[40:25.080 --> 40:33.800] her anymore i want distance i'm out as much out as i can be as fast as possible yeah i tend to not
[40:33.800 --> 40:41.720] have much sympathy for lawyers because they're not the litigants they're just uh
[40:44.200 --> 40:48.440] if they go they're not going to go to their boss and say this woman's bar grieving me
[40:48.440 --> 40:51.720] it's there because their boss is going to say well what did you do wrong
[40:55.000 --> 41:00.440] and if he does and you find out about it you're bar grieving for that yeah the lawyer is not going
[41:00.440 --> 41:07.000] to want to go complaining to his boss that he's being bar grieved if that's his business he's
[41:07.000 --> 41:11.800] supposed to take care of it he's doing you know their bosses the people paying their bill is
[41:11.800 --> 41:18.200] going to say wait do your job right you won't get bar grieved so don't worry about the lawyer too
[41:18.200 --> 41:26.680] much you you want him to want you gone if that means giving you what you want he wants you gone
[41:26.680 --> 41:32.440] he don't want to have to deal with you he's got other business so don't worry too much about him
[41:33.560 --> 41:43.560] you got a bar grievous go ahead and find it now if you're if their lawyer fails to give
[41:43.560 --> 41:53.560] your offer to their boss to the lawyers to the litigant the lawyer himself can be sued
[41:53.560 --> 41:57.640] yeah that's really serious business that's the kind of stuff that'll get him just barred
[41:59.880 --> 42:05.800] so he has to be really careful they're making a difference how upset he is he doesn't control
[42:05.800 --> 42:13.000] what's going on here and it's good if you let him know he doesn't control well brad is the best at
[42:13.000 --> 42:21.800] this he doesn't talk to lawyers who the heck are you yeah i'm a lawyer for the other litigant
[42:21.800 --> 42:25.240] well if you're the lawyer for that litigant go talk to them i didn't hire you get lost
[42:25.800 --> 42:32.040] but he neutralizes the lawyers but that's one of the things they've fought so hard on is they've
[42:32.040 --> 42:41.560] put in a motion for a protective order to to command me to solely communicate with the lawyer
[42:41.560 --> 42:47.160] and not communicate with anybody from the school district or the school board and it's and then
[42:47.160 --> 42:50.920] and so i put in a motion you know that that was a deprivation of my rights
[42:52.120 --> 42:57.640] to tell me i can't talk to the public my own public officials um right you know so excellent
[42:57.640 --> 43:06.280] way to put it yeah yeah because i'm needy okay yeah so it's in front of the judge so i do have
[43:06.280 --> 43:12.040] a couple motions for sanctions but i still think that i would be better off to just settle with
[43:12.040 --> 43:17.080] them versus because it's you know like what we talked about so but yeah they're that i'm like
[43:17.880 --> 43:23.400] that can't i i kind of want the judge to rule on that one because i am really curious if that's
[43:24.600 --> 43:31.560] legal like like they you know what made such a big deal about me uh communicating with the
[43:31.560 --> 43:38.680] with the school district about the losses that's because they don't want the school district to
[43:38.680 --> 43:44.680] hear your side that's why i was work i was like they're they're trying stevie they're trying to
[43:44.680 --> 43:55.320] strategize and not have them uh get all of my i had a client that lawyers were such stinkers
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[46:25.640 --> 46:28.600] i must be careful what i'm wishing for
[46:29.960 --> 46:37.960] when i'm hungry i like to know just what i'm fishing for i ain't asking for much i ain't
[46:37.960 --> 46:44.600] trying to be no glutton i'm just here making my living pushing buttons
[46:44.600 --> 46:56.040] i get my message out to anyone who's shouting distance i'm both for bravery and against slavery
[46:56.040 --> 47:04.440] showing resistance first i'm crawling then i'm walking then i start strutting just so glad to
[47:04.440 --> 47:12.920] make my living pushing buttons okay we are back randy calton brett fountain rule of law radio
[47:12.920 --> 47:17.880] i remember going out i was telling about the picture case in the picture case it was a
[47:19.400 --> 47:29.880] municipal court issue and the lawyers were absolutely outrageous they were they were just
[47:29.880 --> 47:37.080] absolutely vile we were in a hearing to disqualify a judge and they brought in
[47:37.080 --> 47:45.160] a head administrative judge to administer the hearing and the judge told the lawyer on the other
[47:45.160 --> 47:52.760] side to stop stop treating these you know the the pictures are representing themselves they come into
[47:52.760 --> 48:01.480] this court to address an issue and you will not treat people in my court that way that's how bad
[48:01.480 --> 48:09.080] these guys were judge still ruled in their favor but he chewed them out in court in front of everybody
[48:09.080 --> 48:16.280] for being so nasty well the pictures wanted to take on the school no no no school boys not your
[48:16.280 --> 48:24.920] enemy it's the lawyers and they followed direction really finally when we reached the last the right
[48:24.920 --> 48:33.240] point i told them now go in there and on these guys like a ton of bricks just to a city council
[48:34.040 --> 48:41.160] had half the town there and the wife got up and explained all the stuff these lawyers were doing
[48:42.280 --> 48:47.720] and the council just sat there and when she finished someone made a motion to go into
[48:47.720 --> 48:53.720] executive session someone seconded they went into executive session they came out and said
[48:53.720 --> 49:00.760] we had now they had won everything every claim they made everything they wanted they won everything
[49:01.560 --> 49:10.440] we were in the process of appeal they said we have instructed our lawyers to dismiss all claims
[49:10.440 --> 49:22.680] against the pictures the client was absolutely mortified at their lawyers behavior so you bet
[49:22.680 --> 49:29.240] these lawyers do not want you talking to their clients because the clients are human beings like
[49:29.240 --> 49:37.720] you are that they do not want their clients knowing the kind of crap these lawyers are pulling
[49:39.960 --> 49:47.720] so don't go scratch anyway okay but yeah i thought that was beautiful the way that you put that
[49:47.720 --> 49:55.880] you put that you have a right to talk to your public servants i think that was great yeah
[49:57.480 --> 50:01.640] yeah because well the question the one the one thing they might have
[50:05.240 --> 50:12.040] legal like they might have standing on is when i was serving discovery because according to the
[50:12.040 --> 50:17.560] rules of civil procedure it does say if you're represented if the party's represented that
[50:17.560 --> 50:26.840] discovery should be no no actually it says motion need to be served against the lawyer but in the
[50:26.840 --> 50:33.480] discovery rules it says the discovery can be served on every party so i also asked for clarification
[50:33.480 --> 50:40.200] of which rule because it's really funny is that when the lawyer was trying to tell me not to
[50:40.200 --> 50:46.280] communicate with anyone first she said please then she said i'm asking you again and so i said well
[50:46.280 --> 50:52.360] can you please show me the rule that says i'm not allowed to you know communicate with the other
[50:52.360 --> 51:01.160] party okay because you know i would if there's a rule i'll you know concede and she said well
[51:01.160 --> 51:07.000] if there is no rule it's just a professional courtesy is it okay well then that's between
[51:07.000 --> 51:15.720] attorneys right and so i just kept serving them i kept serving everybody because i didn't want her
[51:16.360 --> 51:22.680] to not tell them something or and i want and i also wanted to make a public record in the school
[51:22.680 --> 51:29.640] district so that's why i kept serving the school district itself and um then the next thing i know
[51:29.640 --> 51:39.960] she filed a motion but in her motion you know to to to get an order to to direct me to stop
[51:39.960 --> 51:46.440] communicating with them directly and but it was funny because even in her motion she said that
[51:47.000 --> 51:53.160] i should know the civil rules of procedure and she and she said whatever rule it was and i you know
[51:53.160 --> 51:58.920] responded with the fact that i asked her for a rule and she said there's no rule then she turns
[51:58.920 --> 52:06.280] around and files with the court naming a rule you know a rule so it's just it's just interesting
[52:06.280 --> 52:16.280] wait a minute did you read that rule i did read it i did and there and and there's two there's
[52:16.280 --> 52:21.400] two almost conflicting rules i don't have them up right now but in the there's one rule that
[52:21.400 --> 52:26.280] does say in the beginning with when it comes to motions and pleadings it says that if the
[52:26.280 --> 52:35.800] if a party is represented then all a motion shall be served on their lawyer but then when you look
[52:35.800 --> 52:49.960] at the rule hold on hold on wait did the the rule say that the motion must only be filed on the
[52:49.960 --> 52:58.920] on the lawyer yeah you know and that's what i was now i have to look at back very good point
[52:58.920 --> 53:05.480] trying to read i was trying to discern that exact thing to see and i think that it wasn't
[53:06.600 --> 53:16.440] super apparent if i could almost pull the motion up now and see i'm thinking in terms of juris
[53:16.440 --> 53:25.320] prudence the legislature did not pass that law that rule or the courts did not adopt that rule
[53:26.760 --> 53:35.960] in order to force you not to talk to anyone they just wanted to make sure that the lawyers
[53:35.960 --> 53:42.360] representing the client were noticed on everything because if you send it to the client the client
[53:42.360 --> 53:49.000] may or may not give it to his lawyer they may forget it so they wanted to make sure they got
[53:49.000 --> 53:57.480] it but if they didn't say you were forbidden to send it to anybody else did they forbid you
[53:57.480 --> 54:04.600] to send it to your mother-in-law if they didn't you can send it to your mother-in-law
[54:04.600 --> 54:12.120] if they didn't forbid you to send it to your your the client if they required that you send it to
[54:12.120 --> 54:22.120] the lawyers exclusively then it's exclusive but if they did not say exclusively they did not mean
[54:22.120 --> 54:28.600] exclusively according to every statutory construction act i've ever seen
[54:28.600 --> 54:39.160] i've never seen it only means what they said and they they select their verbiage very carefully
[54:40.120 --> 54:47.400] and what is it that eddie craig says brett not included is excluded
[54:47.400 --> 54:58.920] it prohibition on sending motions to the litigant is not included so therefore it is excluded
[55:01.000 --> 55:08.760] well here's the rule tell me what you guys think it's a rule it's civil what's ohio civil
[55:08.760 --> 55:18.120] rules of civil procedure rule five b service how made uh serving a party serving an attorney
[55:19.080 --> 55:26.200] whenever a party is not represented by an attorney service under this rule shall be made upon the
[55:26.200 --> 55:33.800] party if a party is represented by an attorney service under this rule shall be made on the
[55:33.800 --> 55:43.240] attorney unless the court orders service on the party okay this goes to the judge sitting up there
[55:43.240 --> 55:55.880] on the bench and asks were you properly served and the lawyers say no they didn't serve me
[55:55.880 --> 56:03.240] the question is going to become well what are you doing in this court you obviously knew this was
[56:04.760 --> 56:11.720] for the court so they serve somebody well they serve my client and the judge will say well you
[56:11.720 --> 56:19.560] weren't the litigant was not properly served that's only because the lawyer didn't get it
[56:19.560 --> 56:27.720] uh-huh i think they're so they're construing it a different way they're construing oh yeah
[56:27.720 --> 56:32.600] they're inserting a word only or exclusively into the meaning and it's not there i'm looking
[56:32.600 --> 56:39.080] through it right now i don't see anything that that would prevent you from serving also to
[56:39.080 --> 56:46.520] that lawyer's client the party themselves additionally regardless because what they're
[56:46.520 --> 56:52.280] really complaining about is that i was serving discovery on the parties well they're also saying
[56:52.280 --> 56:57.640] now also saying that because this is my mistake because i i've only filed these against the
[56:57.640 --> 57:03.400] district i didn't do it in their individual capacity so they're basically saying that
[57:03.400 --> 57:11.080] that for me to even communicate with individuals on the school board is like out of um outside of
[57:11.080 --> 57:16.680] the rules because because they're a collective you know they're trying to hide under this
[57:17.320 --> 57:28.840] this um public office so they're implying is there a rule is there a gag order in the case
[57:30.920 --> 57:34.920] well there isn't yet because they've put in they put in two
[57:34.920 --> 57:41.560] mo they put in a motion to order me to communicate hold on you're running way past the issue
[57:43.960 --> 57:52.280] the issue is was there a gag order were you in any way forbidden now to give to notify anybody
[57:52.280 --> 58:05.160] of what could you notify me now there's a bad order
[58:05.160 --> 58:18.040] oh
[58:18.040 --> 58:19.960] randy i'm having a little trouble hearing you there
[58:25.560 --> 58:29.960] okay my apologies sometimes i have to feed up my microphone
[58:29.960 --> 58:37.720] with you it's resistant and i think it's a teenage market you know why they are well we're
[58:37.720 --> 58:42.440] just about to go to sponsors again and we do have a first time caller that's on the board
[58:42.440 --> 58:51.160] we see you there area code 608 we're we'll go to you next and um would you like to make more
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[01:00:01.800 --> 01:00:06.120] the bill of rights contains the first 10 amendments of our constitution they guarantee
[01:00:06.120 --> 01:00:10.760] the specific freedoms americans should know and protect our liberty depends on it i'm
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[01:01:31.720 --> 01:01:36.040] the bill of rights contains the first 10 amendments of our constitution they guarantee
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[01:02:41.080 --> 01:02:46.120] a peep at your privates without probable cause i say it's time to sound the constitutional alarm
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[01:03:05.320 --> 01:03:08.920] it's all according to the will of the almighty
[01:03:12.120 --> 01:03:16.920] i read his book and it says it cares none for the unsightly
[01:03:19.400 --> 01:03:22.520] these warm hungers come by that term rightly
[01:03:22.520 --> 01:03:30.520] hey
[01:03:34.920 --> 01:03:41.640] i won't pay for the fun with my body their plans wicked and their logic shoddy
[01:03:41.640 --> 01:03:48.440] ain't gonna pay for the oil with my body i won't pay for the boys with my money
[01:03:48.440 --> 01:03:54.760] ain't gonna pay for the kids with my body their whole agenda smells funny
[01:03:56.040 --> 01:04:05.720] i want to fight in a wire of my own that one would be less accident
[01:04:05.720 --> 01:04:09.560] let's roll
[01:04:09.560 --> 01:04:13.560] i want to pay for the oil with my own
[01:04:17.560 --> 01:04:27.480] 24th day of march 2023 and i did all of that without brent having to remind me of anything
[01:04:27.480 --> 01:04:37.880] i'm doing almost for an old guy almost oh you forgot that part you're seeing positive
[01:04:37.880 --> 01:04:43.000] yeah i forgot that was that was good just yeah i forgot it okay we are going to our first time
[01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:51.400] caller if you are in the 608 area code give us a first name and a state
[01:04:51.400 --> 01:04:59.320] jay wisconsin jay wisconsin
[01:05:00.520 --> 01:05:10.680] yes okay it's okay i used to live in noi noi so i speak your strange foreign dialect ah yes
[01:05:10.680 --> 01:05:18.360] yes you are you're the uh the inner noi variety i won't i won't go to the letter
[01:05:18.360 --> 01:05:20.920] i speak hinky
[01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:30.040] now i'm multilingual uh i'm from tennessee so i speak hillbilly i'm in texas so i speak redneck
[01:05:30.760 --> 01:05:40.360] and i grew up in chicago so i speak hinky wow you you are widely traveled sir i thought you would
[01:05:40.360 --> 01:05:50.120] be impressed okay what do you have for us today i just i if you're not having fun you are not
[01:05:50.120 --> 01:05:59.000] doing it right okay what do you have for us well it's a it's a very convoluted compounded
[01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:07.000] situation i'm in um first first give us the short version and then we will dig into the longer
[01:06:07.000 --> 01:06:18.920] versions okay uh short version um about two and a half years ago me and my not under the state's
[01:06:18.920 --> 01:06:30.840] authorization wife um began on a journey of the national variety and went through many many many
[01:06:30.840 --> 01:06:41.560] steps um she has three children with another man from previous relationship and was tired of them
[01:06:41.560 --> 01:06:49.480] going to the state school so she decided to fill out the paperwork to get it uh to home school
[01:06:50.120 --> 01:06:55.960] and he did not agree uh friends with school board members lives across the street she went to the
[01:06:55.960 --> 01:07:05.560] school um but wanted to change so it turned into a situation of going to court lawyer lawyer
[01:07:09.400 --> 01:07:17.400] i'm hearing a lot of noise there okay background that noise coming from not me okay quiet
[01:07:17.400 --> 01:07:29.000] all right so i'll try to make it as quick as i can um so in short he ended up taking her rights
[01:07:29.000 --> 01:07:36.840] to the children uh gaining no more 50 percent her only seeing her kids four days a month um
[01:07:37.880 --> 01:07:44.760] completely you know asking her for child support all kinds of things and her having already been
[01:07:44.760 --> 01:07:51.640] fulfilling her 50 percent uh so she did not agree with this he got a lawyer i bar grieved the lawyer
[01:07:52.360 --> 01:07:58.600] i um a judicial complaint to the judge on him stating he found jurisdiction in his pocket
[01:07:58.600 --> 01:08:04.840] apparently and uh it went from there i'd been thrown out of court multiple times for helping her
[01:08:05.640 --> 01:08:14.120] uh durable power of attorneys ucc the whole the whole nine declaration of status on and on and on
[01:08:14.120 --> 01:08:21.800] okay i've done more work than i care to think about and i have more certified mailings than i
[01:08:21.800 --> 01:08:30.840] can count so she continued to see the children on the 50 without adhering to the eventual court
[01:08:30.840 --> 01:08:39.080] order of her only seeing them four days a month which in turn throughout time got her interfering
[01:08:39.080 --> 01:08:45.560] with child custody charges bail jumping on child custody charges all felonies i mean this woman's
[01:08:45.560 --> 01:08:52.520] never had a speeding ticket so it turned into her continuing to do these things and at one point
[01:08:52.520 --> 01:08:59.160] bringing her daughter who wanted to come with her to tennessee uh and things just kept going south
[01:08:59.160 --> 01:09:04.360] from there ended up with her getting a governor's warrant pulling her back into court in wisconsin
[01:09:04.360 --> 01:09:12.520] then deciding that she appointed her an attorney decided that she was uh being committed um because
[01:09:12.520 --> 01:09:19.160] the competency which we all know that game is just to delay things and get you out of their hair
[01:09:19.800 --> 01:09:25.240] so she has just completed 10 months of being deemed incompetent under forced medicine
[01:09:25.800 --> 01:09:32.680] forced uh you know antipsychotics and uh now they've moved her back to the jail of course
[01:09:32.680 --> 01:09:38.680] the time was up they don't want to keep her longer so they say they you know forced medicine fixed
[01:09:38.680 --> 01:09:44.280] her which they throw her back in jail don't give her any medicine at all so she's withdrawing from
[01:09:44.280 --> 01:09:52.360] things she never wanted to begin with and now she is back going to uh the pre-trial and everything
[01:09:52.360 --> 01:09:59.640] like that um then because she showed up where i was at i also got interfering child custody
[01:09:59.640 --> 01:10:06.600] party to a crime and ended up dealing with the same judge that i judicial complain did and the da
[01:10:07.480 --> 01:10:16.120] and ended up getting a deferred situation so i'm trying to help her while not technically being
[01:10:16.120 --> 01:10:25.000] allowed under their rule saying no contact and she's in a really bad bad way and she has a lawyer
[01:10:25.000 --> 01:10:31.080] has a lawyer that advocated for her to be committed that she cannot fire which she has fired multiple
[01:10:31.080 --> 01:10:35.880] times and they just call her crazy they wheel her in in the chair strapped up i mean it's a
[01:10:36.680 --> 01:10:45.720] nightmare hasn't seen her kids you know so this is where i'm at and uh about five days she's got to
[01:10:45.720 --> 01:10:54.040] go in there with somebody that's not really in her court and even though i'm uh the attorney in fact
[01:10:54.040 --> 01:10:59.480] they won't recognize it and they say you don't have a license you cannot speak for her but she's
[01:10:59.480 --> 01:11:08.760] not good at that pressure right she can't function in front of them which i understand
[01:11:08.760 --> 01:11:18.360] it's intimidating you know they hold your life yeah and it is so i'm trying to help uh i have
[01:11:18.360 --> 01:11:24.760] my own problems that have stemmed from there coming to get her in tennessee where she has problems
[01:11:24.760 --> 01:11:31.400] there too also in the adjoining county so she's got two more after this that she needs to go to
[01:11:31.400 --> 01:11:39.800] i've spent untold amount of money to try and help in many ways all kinds of bond and you know the
[01:11:39.800 --> 01:11:46.200] drill so that's where i'm at and i'm kind of trying to figure out what to do to go forward
[01:11:46.200 --> 01:11:53.000] um i've been on telegram in a few different forums and i'm trying to learn and do and
[01:11:53.000 --> 01:11:59.320] i've already done so much and i see how they ignore things i've been kicked out of court for
[01:11:59.880 --> 01:12:04.840] you know they they claim that she owed money and i spoke up and said well i have a higher claim
[01:12:05.560 --> 01:12:11.720] under the ucc1 that states it you know you've got to come to me first and the judge didn't like that
[01:12:11.720 --> 01:12:19.320] so he told me to leave and i said i choose to leave and that was the end of that but it's uh
[01:12:19.320 --> 01:12:27.160] okay hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on have you considered a uh what do you call it
[01:12:28.360 --> 01:12:32.760] uh an ad litem what's the term brett
[01:12:32.760 --> 01:12:41.160] it they want ad litem guardian ad litem i'm not sure all right guardian guardian
[01:12:41.160 --> 01:12:48.920] men guardian ad litem can there be you can't stand up yeah you can't stand up for her she's
[01:12:48.920 --> 01:12:56.840] been adjudged in in incompetent she needs an attorney ad litem does she know anyone who would
[01:12:56.840 --> 01:13:02.680] stand up for her who is related within two degrees of co-sanguinity
[01:13:06.280 --> 01:13:08.200] mother father brother first cousin
[01:13:11.560 --> 01:13:16.680] there might be a cousin that cares enough i mean that's the other thing is their family's left her
[01:13:16.680 --> 01:13:27.960] to rot i'm the only thing keeping her going there might be one goodness talk to the cousin
[01:13:29.400 --> 01:13:38.840] okay ask the cousin to step up and ask the court to appoint him her guardian ad litem
[01:13:38.840 --> 01:13:41.160] she's been declared incompetent she needs a guardian
[01:13:41.160 --> 01:13:48.920] litem okay now they brought her back and i think they're saying she's now competent
[01:13:49.960 --> 01:13:55.320] again so you see what i'm saying they brought her they couldn't have her sit there because
[01:13:55.320 --> 01:13:59.560] you sit a certain amount of time they have to drop it because they can't hold you competent for
[01:14:00.920 --> 01:14:01.720] the court right
[01:14:04.520 --> 01:14:09.640] am i understanding that correct i'm not sure exactly what you said
[01:14:09.640 --> 01:14:15.960] they can't hold her competent for the court and they can't say she's incompetent and then
[01:14:16.520 --> 01:14:23.000] pull her into a trial so they said oh all of our wonderful drugs fixed her now she's fine
[01:14:23.960 --> 01:14:29.240] right competent to stand trial there we go that's what they want they can't have you
[01:14:29.240 --> 01:14:32.600] incompetent for standing trial since this criminal
[01:14:34.680 --> 01:14:36.600] have you bargaged her attorney
[01:14:36.600 --> 01:14:46.840] uh i had one written up i'm not sure if i got it sent okay let me step back has her attorney
[01:14:46.840 --> 01:15:01.640] in any capacity acted for best interest no no then get the cousin if he's willing to
[01:15:01.640 --> 01:15:08.440] tell her she needs an insurance needs a guardian ad litem someone who the court can talk to who
[01:15:08.440 --> 01:15:18.360] can speak and in her defense to her benefit that doesn't have to have a bar license no not a
[01:15:18.360 --> 01:15:25.720] guardian oh you were trying you were trying to act as her guardian they wouldn't let you
[01:15:25.720 --> 01:15:34.280] i see now what about the durable power of attorney i have over her no worthless and in this regard
[01:15:35.720 --> 01:15:39.720] if you had an estate or something you were adjudicating that would be one thing but this
[01:15:39.720 --> 01:15:48.840] is not such a that kind of thing this needs a guardian okay someone who could stand up for her
[01:15:48.840 --> 01:15:58.120] because the court has already ruled she can't stand up for herself right okay
[01:16:00.120 --> 01:16:03.800] i see what you're saying i'm just trying to think of how
[01:16:05.800 --> 01:16:12.760] like i said there's a pre-trial what can i tell her to say at the pre-trial if i don't
[01:16:12.760 --> 01:16:19.560] get the guardian ad litem straight sooner and soon enough nothing
[01:16:21.960 --> 01:16:30.920] a pre-trial ah nothing ain't nothing if you don't know what to say say absolutely nothing
[01:16:30.920 --> 01:16:40.760] ah nothing ain't nothing if you don't know what to say say absolutely nothing do not answer questions
[01:16:42.760 --> 01:16:47.240] tell him you know i'm not confident you have her children she needs a guardian
[01:16:49.080 --> 01:16:53.800] okay if the cousin won't do it they can afford a third party guardian ad litem
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[01:19:15.000 --> 01:19:16.600] ain't gonna blame me
[01:19:20.600 --> 01:19:24.200] don't bore me
[01:19:24.200 --> 01:19:27.640] well
[01:19:31.240 --> 01:19:41.240] ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again i was blindsided but now i can see your plan
[01:19:41.240 --> 01:19:46.360] you put the fear in my pockets took the money from my hand
[01:19:46.360 --> 01:19:54.760] ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again
[01:19:54.760 --> 01:20:00.760] i ain't gonna
[01:20:11.240 --> 01:20:18.520] ain't gonna drop me with that same old sucker punch i get it now but we are back
[01:20:18.520 --> 01:20:26.600] and we're talking to roger in wisconsin
[01:20:28.360 --> 01:20:36.920] that's jay in wisconsin oh okay we do have a roger on the board but it's jay oh that's a
[01:20:36.920 --> 01:20:52.600] game oh okay i still got my dad that's confusing in both three one two uh jay are you from milwaukee
[01:20:53.880 --> 01:21:00.520] uh no i'm about i'm about 45 minutes southeast milwaukee or southwest southeast okay
[01:21:00.520 --> 01:21:09.320] so you're not that far from chicago no three one twos together you know there are yankings in
[01:21:09.320 --> 01:21:20.360] chicago this is true i grew up i grew up on the near north side okay and the only time i was
[01:21:20.360 --> 01:21:29.560] almost killed in an airplane was flying into mitchell field in milwaukee anyway i've been there
[01:21:29.560 --> 01:21:39.640] you have a girlfriend whose parents have not come to her age no why not but me uh why is your
[01:21:39.640 --> 01:21:50.920] parents not because they are in favor on the father okay i am a grandpa and you don't have
[01:21:50.920 --> 01:22:02.040] to excuse my grandfather is stepping up here in the way are the grandparents acting in good
[01:22:02.040 --> 01:22:12.600] faith towards grandchildren in their eyes yes aren't they and in her eyes not so much okay
[01:22:12.600 --> 01:22:23.400] okay i was doing some uh work with dr joe durizo about accurate perception during logistic programming
[01:22:25.160 --> 01:22:32.040] and this is something we were talking about in order to understand what's really going on we
[01:22:32.040 --> 01:22:38.520] have to have accurate perception and brent and i were talking about this on the break
[01:22:38.520 --> 01:22:44.120] there were things you were saying and there were things you were not saying
[01:22:46.120 --> 01:22:53.480] that caused me to have concerns because when there are children involved i am a grandpa
[01:22:54.680 --> 01:23:03.080] and as far as i am concerned everything is for the benefit of the children the parents you know
[01:23:03.080 --> 01:23:09.240] if you're in a divorce proceeding and i tell people this all the time if you're in a divorce
[01:23:09.240 --> 01:23:16.200] proceeding the judge is not going to care about you is not going to care about your spouse if you
[01:23:16.200 --> 01:23:22.840] have children he's only going to care about those children neither one of you two matter
[01:23:25.480 --> 01:23:32.520] and you're talking about children here you don't matter the wife doesn't matter the father doesn't
[01:23:32.520 --> 01:23:39.880] matter the grandparents doesn't matter only the children matter and where grandparents where
[01:23:39.880 --> 01:23:51.080] parents have sided with a son-in-law against her daughter what are we missing
[01:23:54.440 --> 01:24:00.920] uh they haven't always gotten along very well with the daughter of the mom specifically and
[01:24:00.920 --> 01:24:07.960] and they i think they think that's not enough okay why do they think she's crazy
[01:24:09.240 --> 01:24:12.360] because of the american national information
[01:24:17.720 --> 01:24:26.600] not enough has to be more than that are the drugs involved no there are few there are few things i
[01:24:26.600 --> 01:24:32.120] have a friend whose wife decided that she was a lesbian and left him for another woman
[01:24:33.240 --> 01:24:40.280] and she didn't want the children the judge ran hell through the ringer
[01:24:42.120 --> 01:24:48.600] they finally gave him the children when both parents were saying they wanted hell to have
[01:24:48.600 --> 01:24:57.320] the children and when it was all over the judge told him he said i know i gave you a hard time
[01:24:57.320 --> 01:25:09.880] but it is so unusual for a mother not to want the children in all my career i have never
[01:25:09.880 --> 01:25:16.360] awarded children to the father exclusive of the mother and i wanted to be absolutely sure
[01:25:16.360 --> 01:25:20.200] that i was making the best decision for the children
[01:25:22.760 --> 01:25:28.200] she wasn't the school was the big one
[01:25:32.200 --> 01:25:35.560] the grandparents wanted the grandchildren to be
[01:25:35.560 --> 01:25:42.760] in public school and not be homeschooled yes did the mother have the credentials to homeschool
[01:25:42.760 --> 01:25:51.880] uh she got the information she almost had a full degree in english through college
[01:25:52.840 --> 01:26:05.240] and she was smart enough do i personally think she had enough no could she learn and get it there
[01:26:05.240 --> 01:26:13.240] no no yeah was she that you know was she competent were there any things
[01:26:15.320 --> 01:26:24.600] he's hard you know being a grandpa i only care about your children and brett you know he's got
[01:26:24.600 --> 01:26:31.480] children i know he understands this you don't count mother don't count grandparents don't count
[01:26:31.480 --> 01:26:39.320] father don't count only georgia so right why why are the grandparents so concerned that
[01:26:40.360 --> 01:26:49.400] why don't they trust the mother to be able to teach the children is it totally this patriot thing
[01:26:50.680 --> 01:26:57.880] it's a big piece or anything um farmers they're they're just farmers she they're not
[01:26:57.880 --> 01:27:06.120] farmers she they're not i don't know there's it's weird to me too they don't have as much to do
[01:27:06.120 --> 01:27:12.760] with them as i would hope um i i tried to do as much like you said it doesn't matter
[01:27:13.800 --> 01:27:19.000] and their idea of her they just don't back her they don't i don't know okay well somewhere
[01:27:19.000 --> 01:27:29.640] oh to me i lived up there and while i pick on yankees um wisconsin farmers are about as
[01:27:29.640 --> 01:27:37.480] conservative as you can get yeah yeah they are they're they're conservative christians
[01:27:37.480 --> 01:27:48.520] and they pretty well want things done right they care about their children and i'm concerned that
[01:27:48.520 --> 01:27:54.360] the grandparents have serious concerns about the welfare of the children
[01:27:56.520 --> 01:28:02.120] or they wouldn't be pushing them into the the hands of the father
[01:28:02.120 --> 01:28:11.960] the father right so may i ask you who would best serve children
[01:28:14.200 --> 01:28:18.760] the father the mother uh if it was completely
[01:28:22.520 --> 01:28:28.440] that's hard to say because they they both did do their 50 pretty well everybody you know we
[01:28:28.440 --> 01:28:32.520] we got them to school every day i drove 45 minutes to get those kids to school
[01:28:32.520 --> 01:28:40.200] one way every day out in the country that was so so so i've skirted around this question
[01:28:41.960 --> 01:28:48.120] and uh i haven't heard anything to make me uncomfortable asking this question
[01:28:48.120 --> 01:28:57.480] i take it that the mother is not a drug addict no okay because generally the only way that
[01:28:58.600 --> 01:29:05.000] in a court will take children away from a mother is if she's a drug addict or if she's certified
[01:29:05.000 --> 01:29:13.720] we would say right and here you have the courts giving the well you said 50 50 and i wasn't sure
[01:29:13.720 --> 01:29:23.400] what that meant does the wife the mother have the children 50 percent of the time
[01:29:24.840 --> 01:29:32.200] she did up until the court gave him custody due to her not wanting to take them to school
[01:29:32.200 --> 01:29:42.920] well was she able to demonstrate to the court competence to convince the court that she could
[01:29:43.640 --> 01:29:49.400] adequately instruct the children at home hang on i'm about to run out of time randy califrette
[01:29:49.400 --> 01:29:56.120] out the news on radio now i'm not trying to be a jerk here but my only concern is the children
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[01:33:26.440 --> 01:33:35.240] so
[01:33:42.200 --> 01:33:45.240] they're trying to buy the whole place
[01:33:47.640 --> 01:33:50.440] they want a voice in the nation
[01:33:50.440 --> 01:33:55.320] uh
[01:34:09.560 --> 01:34:11.320] they got this problem
[01:34:11.320 --> 01:34:24.200] the dream
[01:34:41.320 --> 01:35:02.200] is
[01:35:11.320 --> 01:35:14.320] Remind me who themselves got for us all
[01:35:14.320 --> 01:35:19.320] The wicked come with confusion
[01:35:19.320 --> 01:35:25.320] They're trying to keep us in fear
[01:35:25.320 --> 01:35:31.320] They're trying to sell us illusion
[01:35:31.320 --> 01:35:36.320] I can't live like that here
[01:35:36.320 --> 01:35:41.320] I cannot drink from their chalice
[01:35:41.320 --> 01:35:47.320] Ain't gonna fall for that fate
[01:35:47.320 --> 01:35:52.320] The wicked come with such malice
[01:35:52.320 --> 01:35:57.320] This is not my fate
[01:35:57.320 --> 01:36:00.320] Why have to make me feel strong and have to be happy
[01:36:00.320 --> 01:36:03.320] Have to have faith like a mustard seed you see
[01:36:03.320 --> 01:36:06.320] I make my day that I will move along with him
[01:36:34.320 --> 01:36:42.320] You obviously want to help your girlfriend
[01:36:42.320 --> 01:36:47.320] And I frankly don't give a squat about your girlfriend
[01:36:47.320 --> 01:36:50.320] I care about the children
[01:36:50.320 --> 01:36:55.320] And I almost never take on one of my callers
[01:36:55.320 --> 01:37:00.320] For me that's just absolutely taboo
[01:37:00.320 --> 01:37:02.320] Not a thing to do
[01:37:02.320 --> 01:37:06.320] People can call into my show and they don't have to worry about me
[01:37:06.320 --> 01:37:08.320] Attacking them
[01:37:08.320 --> 01:37:14.320] And if anything I say sounds like I am, I apologize, it's not my intention
[01:37:14.320 --> 01:37:16.320] I'm trying to sort this out
[01:37:16.320 --> 01:37:20.320] Am I correct that she took the children and took them out of state?
[01:37:20.320 --> 01:37:26.320] Is that why she's being prosecuted?
[01:37:26.320 --> 01:37:30.320] Well, the bail jumping and the interfering with custody originally
[01:37:30.320 --> 01:37:35.320] So every time she would pick them up she would call on her and not talk to her
[01:37:35.320 --> 01:37:38.320] They had a real communication issue
[01:37:38.320 --> 01:37:46.320] Okay, so did she take the children out of state without the husband's knowledge or permission?
[01:37:46.320 --> 01:37:49.320] Yes, I do believe so
[01:37:49.320 --> 01:37:53.320] Okay, technically that's kidnapping
[01:37:53.320 --> 01:37:56.320] That is a really big deal
[01:37:56.320 --> 01:37:59.320] If they didn't charge her with kidnapping
[01:37:59.320 --> 01:38:05.320] It sounds like the court is kind of dancing on the head of a pin
[01:38:05.320 --> 01:38:13.320] It sounds like we have a judge here who cares more about the children than either of the litigants
[01:38:13.320 --> 01:38:20.320] But he had to do something because the mother couldn't have the kids taken out of state out of jurisdiction
[01:38:20.320 --> 01:38:21.320] Right
[01:38:21.320 --> 01:38:24.320] So that's what she's being prosecuted for now
[01:38:24.320 --> 01:38:27.320] This does not go well for her
[01:38:27.320 --> 01:38:34.320] So the counts of bail jumping for having taken them and the initial interfering with child custody
[01:38:34.320 --> 01:38:36.320] So there was no...
[01:38:36.320 --> 01:38:42.320] I mean they noted it and they picked her up and they brought the kids back and they did everything that way
[01:38:42.320 --> 01:38:50.320] Was there any indication that she intended to permanently keep the children in another state?
[01:38:50.320 --> 01:38:58.320] No, she had no intention of keeping them from the father for any real amount of time was the thing
[01:38:58.320 --> 01:39:04.320] And the child wanted to go with her and the child was...
[01:39:04.320 --> 01:39:08.320] Okay, so this is not craziness
[01:39:08.320 --> 01:39:11.320] This is just dumb
[01:39:11.320 --> 01:39:13.320] Yeah
[01:39:13.320 --> 01:39:21.320] This is just her doing something stupid and it sounds like the court understands that she did something stupid
[01:39:21.320 --> 01:39:26.320] And I'm going to suggest that the court really doesn't want to prosecute her
[01:39:26.320 --> 01:39:27.320] No
[01:39:27.320 --> 01:39:29.320] They just want to get her attention
[01:39:29.320 --> 01:39:34.320] Right, the DA, he says he doesn't want her to go to prison
[01:39:34.320 --> 01:39:38.320] I think probably probation, something to that effect
[01:39:38.320 --> 01:39:42.320] But she doesn't think represented
[01:39:42.320 --> 01:39:45.320] Okay, okay
[01:39:45.320 --> 01:39:57.320] It sounds like you have a situation where everybody is trying to find an equitable answer
[01:39:57.320 --> 01:40:07.320] You know, in this show I essentially preach to the Church of the Malcontents, people who are upset at the system
[01:40:07.320 --> 01:40:17.320] They want remedy and they want it now and I show them how to do all kinds of awful, horrible stuff to get remedy
[01:40:17.320 --> 01:40:22.320] But at the end of the day, everybody's not a bad guy
[01:40:22.320 --> 01:40:36.320] And a family court judge, imagine what it's like being a judge in a family law
[01:40:36.320 --> 01:40:45.320] If you do your job right, nobody's going to be happy, as a rule
[01:40:45.320 --> 01:40:48.320] Nobody gets everything they want
[01:40:48.320 --> 01:40:54.320] I was called to go down to Australia to do some seminars
[01:40:54.320 --> 01:41:02.320] And I get to Australia, they pick me up at the airport, we're driving over and we're approaching the Sydney Bay Bridge
[01:41:02.320 --> 01:41:10.320] You've seen the pictures of this Sydney Opera House, well it's right next to the Sydney Bay Bridge
[01:41:10.320 --> 01:41:13.320] We get close to the bridge and traffic is backed up
[01:41:13.320 --> 01:41:22.320] And there's this guy up on the bridge with these huge banners talking about how corrupt the family law system is
[01:41:22.320 --> 01:41:31.320] And you've got these cops down here, a whole bunch of them with loudspeakers, trying to talk him into coming down
[01:41:31.320 --> 01:41:38.320] And I watched this and I was surprised, nobody's threatening him, nobody's pulling guns
[01:41:38.320 --> 01:41:43.320] They're genuinely trying to talk him down off this bridge
[01:41:43.320 --> 01:41:47.320] But his big complaint is the family law system
[01:41:47.320 --> 01:41:53.320] The guy who brought me down there wanted me to take on a family law judge
[01:41:53.320 --> 01:42:01.320] Because the family law judge had given custody of his son to his son's mother
[01:42:01.320 --> 01:42:07.320] And I listened to him and he told me the whole story
[01:42:07.320 --> 01:42:15.320] And I thought, man, if I was the judge, I wouldn't give kids to this crazy person either
[01:42:15.320 --> 01:42:25.320] I just did a horrible quandary, he wanted me to go after the judge and I refused
[01:42:25.320 --> 01:42:33.320] So I had to do some seminars to get enough money to be able to get back home
[01:42:33.320 --> 01:42:39.320] Family law is a beast and I wouldn't be going here with you
[01:42:39.320 --> 01:42:47.320] Except that you kind of did everything right
[01:42:47.320 --> 01:42:52.320] You didn't give me the impression that you think everybody's a criminal
[01:42:52.320 --> 01:42:58.320] And everybody's picking on me and we're being singled out for special persecution
[01:42:58.320 --> 01:43:02.320] I don't have any attitude at all
[01:43:02.320 --> 01:43:17.320] You, like everyone else that you spoke to in this situation, all seem to be trying to find an equitable solution to a very difficult issue
[01:43:17.320 --> 01:43:26.320] And it pleases me greatly to hear we have a number of people here
[01:43:26.320 --> 01:43:32.320] And everybody seems to be trying to find the most equitable solution
[01:43:32.320 --> 01:43:41.320] One suggestion I have is go to the prosecutor, go to the husband, the father
[01:43:41.320 --> 01:43:46.320] Go to the grandparent and say, what do we do to fix this?
[01:43:46.320 --> 01:43:54.320] How do we find an equitable solution rather than treating them as the enemy and fighting them?
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[01:46:21.320 --> 01:46:38.320] As we sow, so shall we reap
[01:46:38.320 --> 01:46:45.320] So many crucial works get put on hold while we see
[01:46:45.320 --> 01:46:53.320] Giant bees turn small steps to the giant bees
[01:46:53.320 --> 01:47:18.320] So shall we reap
[01:47:23.320 --> 01:47:43.320] I don't believe that the idea of homeschooling is any longer rational
[01:47:43.320 --> 01:47:56.320] At this point with going on, I would have to say the best outcome would be to have some type of deferred prosecution
[01:47:56.320 --> 01:48:03.320] Be able to get her rights back to see the children more than the time they have somehow
[01:48:03.320 --> 01:48:18.320] And, you know, barring her being able to show competency to have housing and be able to show ability of care for them
[01:48:18.320 --> 01:48:23.320] I think that would be rational
[01:48:23.320 --> 01:48:33.320] I think you speak well for her. It speaks well that she picked someone like you for her boyfriend
[01:48:33.320 --> 01:48:38.320] That she's picked someone who's rational and reasonable
[01:48:38.320 --> 01:48:44.320] Can you influence her in this direction?
[01:48:44.320 --> 01:48:54.320] I can. I think if she could come to a way to be able to see them more than before
[01:48:54.320 --> 01:49:05.320] I don't know how much they'll agree to, but I think the DA is not interested in some long drawn out thing
[01:49:05.320 --> 01:49:15.320] Let me make a suggestion. If you're a DA, everybody's always PO'd at you
[01:49:15.320 --> 01:49:20.320] Everybody's always telling you what an SOB you are
[01:49:20.320 --> 01:49:32.320] I suggest if you go sit down with the DA, tell him that you appreciate the fact that he has acted in good faith in a difficult situation
[01:49:32.320 --> 01:49:40.320] That you're likely to get a DA who will step up and try to help you find a solution
[01:49:40.320 --> 01:49:46.320] And in this case, I can't think of anything who would be more influential in finding this solution
[01:49:46.320 --> 01:50:00.320] And the idea of asking the DA to ask the judge to appoint a guardian ad litem for this person because she has no one to speak for her
[01:50:00.320 --> 01:50:10.320] She has someone who would speak for her, but you're not in a position to be appointed guardian ad litem
[01:50:10.320 --> 01:50:22.320] Ask him to appoint a cousin or anyone. There are people out there who the courts use for this purpose of professionals
[01:50:22.320 --> 01:50:33.320] It's kind of like an ombudsman. An ombudsman is if you've got a company that's highly regulated by the government
[01:50:33.320 --> 01:50:39.320] Like your church companies or the electric company, it's a real complex business
[01:50:39.320 --> 01:50:46.320] And you have an issue with this real complex business. I am going to mute you while I'm talking because we've got a lot of background noise
[01:50:46.320 --> 01:50:59.320] I'll unmute you in a second. Okay. So, wait a minute. It's not you. Hold on. Let me see. Okay. I got it. I got it. It was Dr. Joe.
[01:50:59.320 --> 01:51:06.320] Okay. Who was that, Brett?
[01:51:06.320 --> 01:51:13.320] I'm talking with the DA and the DA is a good person that would be able to champion that
[01:51:13.320 --> 01:51:22.320] The DA can be a real stinker sometimes depending on what he's dealing with, but here he's dealing with children
[01:51:22.320 --> 01:51:31.320] His only concern will be the best interest of the children. The judge's only concern will be the best interest of the children
[01:51:31.320 --> 01:51:38.320] None of them will care about you, the mother, the father, the grandparents. They're only going to care about the children
[01:51:38.320 --> 01:51:50.320] So if you go to them with your only concern as the best interest of the children, and children need interaction with the mom
[01:51:50.320 --> 01:51:56.320] It's of critical importance if they were to grow into fully functioning human beings
[01:51:56.320 --> 01:52:02.320] So how do we craft a solution? Ask the prosecutor, how do we craft a solution?
[01:52:02.320 --> 01:52:08.320] Tell him that you've got a cousin here who may well act as guardian at Lido
[01:52:08.320 --> 01:52:16.320] If not, don't you have professionals who could act as a guardian at Lido for this person
[01:52:16.320 --> 01:52:27.320] and stand in for her in court or other circumstances where she may need expert assistance so that we can find the best outcome
[01:52:27.320 --> 01:52:33.320] Regardless of how this affects the mother, at the end of the day this is going to dramatically affect the children
[01:52:33.320 --> 01:52:39.320] and we want to lower the negative impact on the children as much as possible
[01:52:39.320 --> 01:52:50.320] You're likely to get a prosecutor who will be your champion because he doesn't get to be the good guy very often
[01:52:50.320 --> 01:53:03.320] Nobody likes to be the bad guy all the time. I've seen prosecutors that I personally knew get extremely bitter
[01:53:03.320 --> 01:53:10.320] because they always got to be the bad guy. To give them an opportunity to step up and be the good guy I do
[01:53:10.320 --> 01:53:23.320] that might be the right reason without pursuing anyone, you might be able to schmooze them to help you find a solution
[01:53:23.320 --> 01:53:32.320] That sounds like a good idea. If I can get her to agree to some things and get somebody to get in there for her
[01:53:32.320 --> 01:53:40.320] that would probably help. He seems reasonable enough and he's still young enough, I think
[01:53:40.320 --> 01:53:48.320] and he's not completely bitter and it's a small county. He's tired of dealing with her, I'm pretty sure
[01:53:48.320 --> 01:53:51.320] This has been years now
[01:53:51.320 --> 01:54:01.320] From your prior communication, I understand that you are somewhat immersed in the Patriot community
[01:54:01.320 --> 01:54:09.320] I have done a lot of work, but I'm also smart enough. I was an engineer
[01:54:09.320 --> 01:54:21.320] No, that wasn't where I was going actually. The Patriot community tends to be very adversarial
[01:54:21.320 --> 01:54:33.320] I consider him the church of the malcontents and you did not indicate that you were a member of the church of the malcontents
[01:54:33.320 --> 01:54:44.320] and that's why I spend so much time here and only when I get Patriot mythology and anybody who listens to me very much
[01:54:44.320 --> 01:54:55.320] I try to always be open and easy going, but when I get Patriot stuff I get pretty excited pretty fast
[01:54:55.320 --> 01:55:02.320] because I've had to help so many people get out of jail for following the Patriot methodology
[01:55:02.320 --> 01:55:11.320] but you did not exhibit the pathology I see in those guys. That's why I spend more time with you
[01:55:11.320 --> 01:55:26.320] I truly appreciate it. I did it. I'm not going to deny that in every facet of paperwork you would say that I was 100% that
[01:55:26.320 --> 01:55:37.320] but I'm also very open. I'm intelligent enough to know when things don't work and what seems to be true from my first-hand perfected knowledge
[01:55:37.320 --> 01:55:46.320] and I got that. You are in a very good position to be of great assistance to these children
[01:55:46.320 --> 01:55:54.320] and if you go to the court, if you go to the prosecutor, with your only concern is the best interest of the children
[01:55:54.320 --> 01:56:03.320] I assure you they will respond very positively. You might even be able to get them to appoint you as attorney in light of them
[01:56:03.320 --> 01:56:13.320] If you indicate that your only real concern is avoiding negative impact on the children
[01:56:13.320 --> 01:56:22.320] they can't deny these children access to their mother without causing harm no matter how bad her mother may be
[01:56:22.320 --> 01:56:30.320] children have to feel like they are accepted of love by their mother and their father
[01:56:30.320 --> 01:56:43.320] I have Dr. Joe on the caller bridge and he can talk about how the effect of the parents affect the children
[01:56:43.320 --> 01:56:54.320] that in order for the children to have a positive concept of the planet they have to feel as though they are accepted by both parents
[01:56:54.320 --> 01:57:06.320] and in order for children to be able to get along well in an ordered society they need parents who can get along well in an ordered society
[01:57:06.320 --> 01:57:15.320] This is of critical importance and I have a lot of people on the caller board and you guys can all wait
[01:57:15.320 --> 01:57:28.320] This is about the kids. Kids are more important and if you go to these guys, if you go to them from that perspective
[01:57:28.320 --> 01:57:36.320] I think you guys, you don't have a prosecutor here who is an absolute snake doing the worst you can
[01:57:36.320 --> 01:57:45.320] You don't have a judge here who doesn't care about anything. It sounds like you have a group that is all looking for a positive solution
[01:57:45.320 --> 01:57:50.320] I'm encouraged by that. Just manipulate it.
[01:57:50.320 --> 01:57:57.320] I appreciate it. I'm going to do my best. I've fought hard for them.
[01:57:57.320 --> 01:58:03.320] Let us know how this goes. You could be the best friend those kids have
[01:58:03.320 --> 01:58:11.320] and you may be the best friends those children have and they never know that they were the best friends they have
[01:58:11.320 --> 01:58:23.320] I can't think of anything more honorable than to do the right thing for the right reason that nobody knows
[01:58:23.320 --> 01:58:30.320] Okay, anything else for us today?
[01:58:30.320 --> 01:58:35.320] I will come back another time. How about that?
[01:58:35.320 --> 01:58:42.320] You are required to keep us updated on how this goes
[01:58:42.320 --> 01:58:47.320] I shall. I shall. Thank you so much for the information. I appreciate it.
[01:58:47.320 --> 01:58:49.320] Thanks, Jerry.
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