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[00:00.000 --> 00:05.840]  The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution.
[00:05.840 --> 00:09.520]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[00:09.520 --> 00:11.080]  Our liberty depends on it.
[00:11.080 --> 00:14.920]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember
[00:14.920 --> 00:17.040]  your First Amendment rights.
[00:17.040 --> 00:18.600]  Privacy is under attack.
[00:18.600 --> 00:22.200]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[00:22.200 --> 00:27.000]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[00:27.000 --> 00:31.960]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance and keep your information to yourself.
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[00:44.760 --> 00:47.600]  SPAR, it's what fighters do.
[00:47.600 --> 00:51.360]  It's also how I remember the five guarantees of the First Amendment.
[00:51.360 --> 00:54.560]  If you plan to take away my rights, I'm going to SPAR with you.
[00:54.560 --> 01:01.640]  SPAR with an extra P, S for speech, P for press, another P for petition, A for assembly,
[01:01.640 --> 01:03.160]  and R for religion.
[01:03.160 --> 01:07.040]  Most Americans are familiar with the First Amendment guarantees of free speech, press,
[01:07.040 --> 01:10.480]  assembly, and religion, but petition for redress is another matter.
[01:10.480 --> 01:14.680]  We have the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
[01:14.680 --> 01:18.200]  It means that if we're unhappy with what's going on in our government, we can spell out
[01:18.200 --> 01:20.800]  the reasons without fear of being thrown into jail.
[01:20.800 --> 01:31.160]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, more news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[01:31.160 --> 01:34.800]  The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution.
[01:34.800 --> 01:38.280]  They guarantee a specific freedom Americans should know and protect.
[01:38.280 --> 01:39.720]  Our liberty depends on it.
[01:39.720 --> 01:43.640]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember
[01:43.640 --> 01:46.800]  one of your constitutional rights.
[01:46.800 --> 01:48.400]  Privacy is under attack.
[01:48.400 --> 01:52.000]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[01:52.000 --> 01:56.800]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[01:56.800 --> 02:01.720]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
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[02:15.960 --> 02:20.320]  When I think of the Second Amendment, I visualize myself wrapping my two arms around the Bill
[02:20.320 --> 02:22.360]  of Rights in a big old bear hug.
[02:22.360 --> 02:26.880]  It's how I remember that the Second Amendment guarantees us the right to bear arms.
[02:26.880 --> 02:30.720]  Arms that embrace our freedoms and won't let anyone take them away without a fight.
[02:30.720 --> 02:31.720]  Get it?
[02:31.720 --> 02:32.720]  Two arms?
[02:32.720 --> 02:33.720]  Bear hug?
[02:33.720 --> 02:34.720]  Bear arms?
[02:34.720 --> 02:37.720]  The late Senator Hubert Humphrey captioned the spirit of the Second Amendment so well
[02:37.720 --> 02:42.440]  when he said, the right of the citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against
[02:42.440 --> 02:43.800]  arbitrary government.
[02:43.800 --> 02:48.880]  A more safeguard against the tyranny, which now appears remote in America, but which historically
[02:48.880 --> 02:50.680]  has proved to always be possible.
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[04:57.440 --> 05:14.160]  If I come down there and I decide to be the prosecutor, do I have absolute immunity?
[05:14.160 --> 05:21.240]  The prosecutor orders all these people to come down there to meet with him.
[05:21.240 --> 05:29.760]  You need to go down there and pull the docket sheet sometime when he's having these hearings.
[05:29.760 --> 05:34.120]  Were you the only person called in when you went to meet with him?
[05:34.120 --> 05:35.120]  No.
[05:35.120 --> 05:36.120]  No.
[05:36.120 --> 05:43.680]  It's well known as a FA, whatever, first appearance, and they have anywhere from 20 to 100 people
[05:43.680 --> 05:44.680]  in there.
[05:44.680 --> 05:45.680]  We all want to visit.
[05:45.680 --> 05:46.680]  Okay.
[05:46.680 --> 05:54.080]  Get you, go to the bailiff and tell them that you want a copy of the appearance docket for
[05:54.080 --> 05:55.080]  this day.
[05:55.080 --> 06:00.000]  I'm not even going to go to the bailiff there that day.
[06:00.000 --> 06:02.720]  Then ask the clerk.
[06:02.720 --> 06:05.320]  The clerk's the one that has it anyway.
[06:05.320 --> 06:12.840]  Every time I go to court, I always make him give me an appearance docket.
[06:12.840 --> 06:14.880]  That's just so I get him wondered who I was.
[06:14.880 --> 06:21.160]  I was there with someone I was helping in San Marcos and I walked up to the little bar
[06:21.160 --> 06:25.880]  and I pointed at the bailiff, you come here, but I hate that.
[06:25.880 --> 06:32.960]  See, go up there and tell the clerk I need a copy of the appearance docket.
[06:32.960 --> 06:35.680]  The one bailiff said, well, why do you need that?
[06:35.680 --> 06:37.680]  No, no, no, no, no.
[06:37.680 --> 06:40.600]  That's not how this works.
[06:40.600 --> 06:44.520]  I tell you to get me the appearance docket.
[06:44.520 --> 06:48.640]  You get me the appearance docket and you don't ask me any questions.
[06:48.640 --> 06:53.400]  He stood there and stared at me a minute.
[06:53.400 --> 06:58.400]  I'll be right back.
[06:58.400 --> 07:06.080]  You know, he's whispering to everybody, who is this guy?
[07:06.080 --> 07:08.760]  So go down there.
[07:08.760 --> 07:13.040]  Now you don't have any dog in this hunt.
[07:13.040 --> 07:19.480]  You go down there when they're having their little cattle call thing, get the docket,
[07:19.480 --> 07:28.560]  and file criminal charges against the prosecutor for every single person on the docket.
[07:28.560 --> 07:33.680]  If there's no judge sitting on the bench, because what you'll do is go into this hearing
[07:33.680 --> 07:37.720]  and then the bailiff will come out and call you up and you'll go back and talk to the
[07:37.720 --> 07:38.720]  prosecutor.
[07:38.720 --> 07:39.720]  Correct?
[07:39.720 --> 07:49.080]  Okay, well, again, no bailiff there on these days, that's what I could tell.
[07:49.080 --> 07:53.040]  Not even a bailiff, so it's not much of a court.
[07:53.040 --> 07:59.920]  It looks like a DMV, yeah, it looks like a DMV, to be honest, without a bailiff.
[07:59.920 --> 08:05.480]  The big deal is no judge, if there's no judge there.
[08:05.480 --> 08:09.680]  But she's in civilian clothing and the only reason I knew this is because I recognized
[08:09.680 --> 08:11.240]  her from the video that we watched.
[08:11.240 --> 08:17.440]  So there is a judge walking around behind the kind of where they collect money and all
[08:17.440 --> 08:18.440]  that kind of stuff.
[08:18.440 --> 08:19.440]  Yeah, so she's not in...
[08:19.440 --> 08:25.600]  She didn't come into court and convene a hearing.
[08:25.600 --> 08:29.600]  Correct, so it's not standard-wise, yeah.
[08:29.600 --> 08:35.080]  Right, they can only summon you to court for a hearing.
[08:35.080 --> 08:45.600]  We look at, in Texas, it's Chapter 28, and 2801, Texas Code of Criminal Procedure, lists
[08:45.600 --> 08:50.320]  all of the things you can be summoned to court for, they're very specific.
[08:50.320 --> 08:54.160]  An arraignment is the first one.
[08:54.160 --> 08:59.320]  And all of the rest go to some types of motions or pleadings.
[08:59.320 --> 09:03.440]  There has to be something before the court.
[09:03.440 --> 09:13.600]  So look under Colorado law and find where a judge is authorized to issue summons.
[09:13.600 --> 09:17.560]  It will list what he could summon you for.
[09:17.560 --> 09:18.560]  Okay.
[09:18.560 --> 09:22.120]  Well, here's what that's about.
[09:22.120 --> 09:26.760]  And to meet with the prosecutors, not one of them, so you might file against the judge
[09:26.760 --> 09:29.480]  and the prosecutor, both criminally.
[09:29.480 --> 09:30.480]  Okay.
[09:30.480 --> 09:34.680]  And conspiring with one another to obstruct.
[09:34.680 --> 09:38.800]  And a good point.
[09:38.800 --> 09:43.800]  And then you maintain, this is outside of scope.
[09:43.800 --> 09:50.240]  Since it's outside the scope of their authority, it's outside their immunity.
[09:50.240 --> 09:55.240]  What keeps you in court is not what you can prove up at the end of the day.
[09:55.240 --> 10:00.320]  What keeps you in court is the nature of your claim.
[10:00.320 --> 10:06.840]  For the purpose of determining whether or not you have stated a claim on which recovery
[10:06.840 --> 10:08.080]  can be had.
[10:08.080 --> 10:13.120]  I think most people listening has heard of a rule 12 motion to dismiss or failure state
[10:13.120 --> 10:15.760]  a claim on which color can be had.
[10:15.760 --> 10:26.240]  The requirements are the judge must look at your pleading except all of your alleged
[10:26.240 --> 10:29.120]  facts as true.
[10:29.120 --> 10:31.680]  Not his prima facia, but it's true.
[10:31.680 --> 10:43.320]  And if all the alleged facts are true, would the litigant have a claim against the defendant?
[10:43.320 --> 10:45.640]  That's the criteria.
[10:45.640 --> 10:55.440]  So you say either the judge or the prosecutor issued these summons or had the summons issued.
[10:55.440 --> 10:59.000]  You don't know who actually did it.
[10:59.000 --> 11:04.920]  If they say the clerk issued the summons, then you name the clerk as well.
[11:04.920 --> 11:10.680]  They summoned people to appear at this hearing, but they didn't have a hearing.
[11:10.680 --> 11:19.800]  They did not summon them for a purpose that's allowed by law since they acted outside the
[11:19.800 --> 11:22.520]  scope of their authority to have no immunity.
[11:22.520 --> 11:31.000]  I didn't have to look at it that way and you're not playing to the trial court, you're playing
[11:31.000 --> 11:33.400]  to the appellate court.
[11:33.400 --> 11:39.640]  You want to bring to the appellate court a question they do not want to answer.
[11:39.640 --> 11:43.640]  This is a question they are not going to want to answer.
[11:43.640 --> 11:47.440]  All right, correct that.
[11:47.440 --> 11:55.000]  So they will find a reason, I just had someone on the show yesterday telling that he filed
[11:55.000 --> 11:56.880]  a mandamus.
[11:56.880 --> 12:05.240]  They granted him the mandamus, but for a reason other than the one he filed for.
[12:05.240 --> 12:12.000]  That's what they did to us when we challenged the application of city ordinances to the
[12:12.000 --> 12:14.080]  public in general.
[12:14.080 --> 12:16.760]  They didn't give us a ruling on that.
[12:16.760 --> 12:23.200]  They went in the code and found another reason to dismiss and dismissed on that one.
[12:23.200 --> 12:26.680]  Now they gave us a ruling so we can't appeal.
[12:26.680 --> 12:30.840]  We can't say, hey, that's not what we wanted you to rule on.
[12:30.840 --> 12:34.040]  They just find a reason to throw it out and they can toss it.
[12:34.040 --> 12:41.240]  So they said, though subject matter jurisdiction, the other side could have appealed, but I'm
[12:41.240 --> 12:49.040]  sure the courts told the lawyers don't even think about it because we'll clobber you good.
[12:49.040 --> 12:53.680]  So you want to ask a question they don't want to answer.
[12:53.680 --> 13:02.440]  And you can claim that you were harmed by this along with all of these other people
[13:02.440 --> 13:10.640]  and you are suing in your own behalf and in the behalf of all others similarly situated
[13:10.640 --> 13:14.840]  in Sioux for a really big number.
[13:14.840 --> 13:18.800]  How many people do they do this to in a year's time?
[13:18.800 --> 13:21.400]  Yep, everybody.
[13:21.400 --> 13:26.560]  So 140 people, how often do they have them?
[13:26.560 --> 13:35.880]  Do the math, get you a number and $10,000 a piece.
[13:35.880 --> 13:41.280]  What's your due process rights worth?
[13:41.280 --> 13:43.720]  I'm a combat veteran.
[13:43.720 --> 13:47.400]  Mine are very expensive.
[13:47.400 --> 13:51.400]  I've paid for mine and I've paid heavy.
[13:51.400 --> 13:54.400]  So you want to step on one of mine, but we're going to fight.
[13:54.400 --> 14:02.680]  I just sued my county for $400 million.
[14:02.680 --> 14:08.560]  I've got a way to get there, I'm suing them for improperly arresting people and holding
[14:08.560 --> 14:16.960]  them without an examining trial and I calculated how much the state has admitted to spending
[14:16.960 --> 14:20.760]  $990 million incarcerating these kind of people.
[14:20.760 --> 14:24.600]  So $400 million is not that unreasonable.
[14:24.600 --> 14:33.360]  How much does the state collect from these people in a year's time using these improper
[14:33.360 --> 14:35.840]  procedures?
[14:35.840 --> 14:40.040]  Calculate that and triple it.
[14:40.040 --> 14:44.320]  Bring them a really big number, bring them a question they're not going to want to answer.
[14:44.320 --> 14:47.720]  Hey, why don't you check?
[14:47.720 --> 14:55.600]  How should they prepare the question they don't want to answer?
[14:55.600 --> 15:01.800]  Should he try to offer them also throw them a bone, give them something that's easy to
[15:01.800 --> 15:03.520]  dismiss on?
[15:03.520 --> 15:09.760]  I'm glad you brought that point up because yes, you need to give them, never back a bulldog
[15:09.760 --> 15:13.600]  into a corner without giving them a way out.
[15:13.600 --> 15:20.760]  You want to bring the hard question coupled with an easier question and let them, if you
[15:20.760 --> 15:26.320]  get to court, let them rule on the easier question and this generally you win this in
[15:26.320 --> 15:29.480]  a mandamus action.
[15:29.480 --> 15:34.320]  You get outside the trial court and go to the appellate court and ask the appellate court
[15:34.320 --> 15:37.640]  to rule on point of law.
[15:37.640 --> 15:44.920]  The point of law is, is a prosecuting attorney impersonating a judicial officer by holding
[15:44.920 --> 15:52.080]  hearings as if he were a judge and the judge is acting in concert and collusion, the judge
[15:52.080 --> 15:59.360]  and the clerk are both working together and you see the clerk, she's going to have a fit
[15:59.360 --> 16:05.200]  and they're going to have to try to protect the clerk.
[16:05.200 --> 16:12.320]  So you put together the suit and when you're dealing with public officials they require
[16:12.320 --> 16:17.920]  a 60 day tort letter so send them the suit in the form of a tort letter and ask them
[16:17.920 --> 16:19.480]  to mediate with you.
[16:19.480 --> 16:25.800]  Say, look guys, I can file this suit and we can fight this through the courts for the
[16:25.800 --> 16:33.200]  next five years or calculate what is going to cost you to answer my suit.
[16:33.200 --> 16:38.560]  Give me an offer, maybe I'll go away.
[16:38.560 --> 16:43.080]  That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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[19:24.400 --> 19:45.400]  Okay we are back, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, ruleoflawradio and Chris did we give you any
[19:45.400 --> 19:47.400]  ideas to work with?
[19:47.400 --> 19:49.920]  Yeah, lots of homework right?
[19:49.920 --> 19:56.120]  I'm thinking my next move is I'm going to do a FOIA request for all these inner workings
[19:56.120 --> 20:00.000]  and names and numbers and all that kind of stuff, how this stuff actually works in the
[20:00.000 --> 20:01.000]  first appearance center.
[20:01.000 --> 20:02.000]  That's what it's called.
[20:02.000 --> 20:07.320]  I've actually got text here, Randy, from my, from, they say a court date is scheduled
[20:07.320 --> 20:12.800]  for case, blah, blah, blah, unless expressedly authorized by a judicial officer, your presence
[20:12.800 --> 20:14.600]  in the courtroom is required.
[20:14.600 --> 20:17.240]  Yeah, I never saw a judge.
[20:17.240 --> 20:20.480]  So pretty interesting.
[20:20.480 --> 20:23.560]  So do you think I should go in stealth and figure it out on my own or just asking for
[20:23.560 --> 20:27.720]  FOIA request for all this stuff and make them steal the beans and then use it against them?
[20:27.720 --> 20:33.280]  Well they, they don't have a duty to inform you of law.
[20:33.280 --> 20:43.200]  I suggest you go down there and watch and video, maybe you'll get them to give you a hard time
[20:43.200 --> 20:44.200]  over videoing.
[20:44.200 --> 20:49.280]  Well there's got to be some policy in writing somewhere that allows for what we just went
[20:49.280 --> 20:50.280]  through, correct?
[20:50.280 --> 20:53.280]  Wait, see that again?
[20:53.280 --> 20:57.880]  There's got to be something in writing and let me just all make it up and we don't just
[20:57.880 --> 20:58.880]  follow it.
[20:58.880 --> 21:04.880]  But there has to be something that says, you know, this is the procedure for a first appearance
[21:04.880 --> 21:05.880]  and this is how it works.
[21:05.880 --> 21:08.560]  There's got to be something that they're following in a manual.
[21:08.560 --> 21:10.880]  No, no, no there doesn't.
[21:10.880 --> 21:18.840]  When I can assure you, you won't find it in any manual.
[21:18.840 --> 21:22.280]  That's not how this is done.
[21:22.280 --> 21:27.680]  The prosecutors hire and they tell him how it's done.
[21:27.680 --> 21:32.600]  They're not writing this down anywhere.
[21:32.600 --> 21:37.120]  Then we're all going there on speculation and hearsay, that's how this all goes down?
[21:37.120 --> 21:45.640]  That's how it goes down, prosecutors are prosecuting the way they're taught to prosecute.
[21:45.640 --> 21:49.080]  They don't bother reading the codes.
[21:49.080 --> 21:55.080]  Good chance the lawyers down there have no idea that what they're doing is not sanctioned
[21:55.080 --> 21:57.440]  under law.
[21:57.440 --> 22:05.640]  It's just way everybody does it, that'll make it a good question because this is a question
[22:05.640 --> 22:10.320]  if you screw this up, it screws up everything for them.
[22:10.320 --> 22:14.240]  Those judges are going to have to get up there on the bench and do their jobs and they are
[22:14.240 --> 22:16.480]  not going to want to do that.
[22:16.480 --> 22:20.880]  Well, it's also going to cut into the paycheck for the state.
[22:20.880 --> 22:26.200]  This is probably designed, in my opinion, to streamline the process of the ignorance
[22:26.200 --> 22:30.400]  of the people to just come in and they sit there and go, oh, I'm in trouble even though
[22:30.400 --> 22:35.520]  I have no idea I'm not actually in a court, I'm not even on record yet I'm somehow paying
[22:35.520 --> 22:39.200]  money out of my pocket because I'm afraid and they take that, they're using it out to
[22:39.200 --> 22:40.200]  their advantage.
[22:40.200 --> 22:41.760]  That's what it really seems like.
[22:41.760 --> 22:46.040]  That is exactly what they're doing.
[22:46.040 --> 22:47.840]  How can that be legal in any way?
[22:47.840 --> 22:48.840]  It's just, it can't.
[22:48.840 --> 22:49.840]  Not.
[22:49.840 --> 22:50.840]  So.
[22:50.840 --> 22:51.840]  It's not.
[22:51.840 --> 23:03.040]  So I'll give you any arrest in Texas, I'll give you between 17 and 19 felony and misdemeanor
[23:03.040 --> 23:07.960]  criminal complaints against all of the actors involved.
[23:07.960 --> 23:11.880]  Everything is illegal.
[23:11.880 --> 23:18.480]  When I read the code and then looked at the practice, I thought, have I stepped through
[23:18.480 --> 23:21.560]  the looking class?
[23:21.560 --> 23:26.600]  How can the practice be so dramatically different than the code?
[23:26.600 --> 23:36.440]  It took 15 years of studying the code to realize at my first reading, I didn't miss anything.
[23:36.440 --> 23:43.720]  This is what the code says, but it is not what they're doing, not even close.
[23:43.720 --> 23:51.640]  Okay, all right, I'll go back over this and I'll try to think of that question.
[23:51.640 --> 23:56.200]  I got a lot of time to do this, but I'm going to start doing the research on it.
[23:56.200 --> 23:58.000]  So yeah, you gave me a lot of ideas, guys.
[23:58.000 --> 23:59.000]  Thank you very much.
[23:59.000 --> 24:03.400]  This is the fun part.
[24:03.400 --> 24:08.880]  Now they don't have a shot at you, you're going after them, it's a lot more fun.
[24:08.880 --> 24:14.080]  Yeah, stress off my back for sure.
[24:14.080 --> 24:17.280]  Okay, thank you, Chris.
[24:17.280 --> 24:20.680]  Thanks guys, thank you again.
[24:20.680 --> 24:23.520]  Okay, keep us up to date on how this goes.
[24:23.520 --> 24:26.120]  Okay, now we're going to Terry in Missouri.
[24:26.120 --> 24:29.720]  Hello Terry, what do you have for us today?
[24:29.720 --> 24:37.400]  Yeah, well, I'll try to condense the 23 years down to whatever time we can get here.
[24:37.400 --> 24:45.280]  I left off last night where I was telling you that my brother had an outfit come out
[24:45.280 --> 24:52.600]  to his home in August of 1999 to put sighting on his house, okay?
[24:52.600 --> 24:59.800]  Now, it's called ABC Seamless Sighting out of Columbia, Missouri.
[24:59.800 --> 25:06.280]  And with it, they had their own loan application, which I'm going to get to in just a moment.
[25:06.280 --> 25:15.800]  Now, he paid on this thing for what was supposed to have been a 20 year mortgage, second mortgage.
[25:15.800 --> 25:23.480]  In 2009, after he paid roughly 10 and a quarter years, he ran into money trouble and he couldn't
[25:23.480 --> 25:25.040]  pay it.
[25:25.040 --> 25:31.640]  He was never noticed and nobody ever sued him, nothing.
[25:31.640 --> 25:37.840]  Is Missouri a mortgage state or a deed of trust state?
[25:37.840 --> 25:39.720]  I think it's a mortgage state.
[25:39.720 --> 25:43.000]  No, no, it's a deed of trust state.
[25:43.000 --> 25:44.000]  Okay.
[25:44.000 --> 25:50.120]  Now, you're not going to believe what we found out.
[25:50.120 --> 25:58.600]  Now, in late January of 2022, here comes the fun stuff.
[25:58.600 --> 26:01.040]  My brother comes home from work.
[26:01.040 --> 26:08.360]  He sees kind of what we thought was a makeshift for sale by owner sign, stuck in his neighbor's
[26:08.360 --> 26:13.360]  open pasture land, and my brother owns a farm.
[26:13.360 --> 26:20.840]  And it had his own, his old street address on it, and an arrow pointing to a big bold
[26:20.840 --> 26:22.440]  letter said envelope.
[26:22.440 --> 26:29.000]  Well, we just thought somebody was the owner, which we knew was selling his farm.
[26:29.000 --> 26:31.600]  So we ignored it.
[26:31.600 --> 26:38.040]  And so the next evening, he gets up to go to work and he works at night and he saw a
[26:38.040 --> 26:45.440]  UPS envelope laying down at his gate, which he always has locked, and there's no return
[26:45.440 --> 26:48.640]  address or anything on this UPS envelope.
[26:48.640 --> 26:53.600]  So he opens the damn thing up, and inside there's a letter.
[26:53.600 --> 27:03.680]  And inside this letter, it says, hi, this is H-L-I, well, what's that mean, Harry, whatever.
[27:03.680 --> 27:12.840]  I was at a trustee sale at Cooper County, Missouri, with five other lenders.
[27:12.840 --> 27:18.120]  I'm sorry, with five other bidders, present was the lender.
[27:18.120 --> 27:28.120]  And hey, dude, I bought your place, and nothing signed, no corporate, nothing.
[27:28.120 --> 27:33.640]  No way to identify this, other than a phone number, no name, no signature, nothing.
[27:33.640 --> 27:39.400]  And he said, listen, I'll sell it back to you, and if you don't, I'm going to kick you
[27:39.400 --> 27:40.400]  off of it.
[27:40.400 --> 27:43.280]  Basically, it wasn't just the letter.
[27:43.280 --> 27:49.000]  Now we started snooping around, well, first of all, I'm scared to crap out of my brother.
[27:49.000 --> 27:53.520]  But again, now, Randy, there's no creditor judgment.
[27:53.520 --> 27:55.920]  Nobody's ever sued him, not in his entire life.
[27:55.920 --> 28:00.840]  He doesn't have, it's a deed of trust agent, I don't have to.
[28:00.840 --> 28:08.520]  Well, I think you're wrong on that, but that's not what the issue is.
[28:08.520 --> 28:16.160]  So we went up and took these three letters that demanded money, and no signature, no
[28:16.160 --> 28:19.160]  way to identify who the hell this was.
[28:19.160 --> 28:24.960]  So we went to an attorney's office, there's a piece of trash, and we sat there, and the
[28:24.960 --> 28:32.440]  attorney called this guy, or called up the number, and asked him, well, who's the lender?
[28:32.440 --> 28:34.840]  And what'd you pay for it?
[28:34.840 --> 28:42.800]  And all the stuff, you know, you would typically ask somebody, and the guy hung up.
[28:42.800 --> 28:46.400]  Now you're not going to believe what I'm about to tell you.
[28:46.400 --> 28:53.840]  This was sold to a debt collector, and we found out that what the debt collector filed was
[28:53.840 --> 28:58.120]  a forgery, and I'm going to get into that in just a minute.
[28:58.120 --> 29:09.200]  And going all the way back till 1999, the three names that were on this alleged loan
[29:09.200 --> 29:13.920]  were not money-blending companies at all.
[29:13.920 --> 29:21.800]  And the name called ABC Seamless Sighted, which is a little construction company, said
[29:21.800 --> 29:28.960]  it was a retail installment loan contract, and that the sighting company was the lender.
[29:28.960 --> 29:29.960]  Well, sorry.
[29:29.960 --> 29:30.960]  They can be.
[29:30.960 --> 29:31.960]  Boys, I know that.
[29:31.960 --> 29:32.960]  Hang on.
[29:32.960 --> 29:33.960]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rue Lauderdale.
[29:33.960 --> 29:48.760]  Oh, okay, we got a fair little longer than I thought, but I think they may be able to
[29:48.760 --> 29:53.800]  do that, it varies with state, but hang on, we'll pick this up on the other side and we'll
[29:53.800 --> 30:01.280]  be right back.
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[33:17.600 --> 33:44.600]  Yeah, yeah, oh, yeah, I won't, oh, I won't, I won't let you pull the world over my eyes.
[33:44.600 --> 34:04.600]  You must refuse your noose, or so have been lied, it seems you like the face, but please
[34:04.600 --> 34:10.600]  take some words to the wise.
[34:10.600 --> 34:13.600]  Please stop trying to pull the world over my eyes.
[34:13.600 --> 34:19.600]  I'm Brett Fountain, we live on radio, and we're talking to Terry in Missouri.
[34:19.600 --> 34:21.600]  Okay, Terry.
[34:21.600 --> 34:25.100]  Yeah, where we left off, man.
[34:25.100 --> 34:35.760]  What I was about to tell you is a retail installment loan in Missouri applies under chapter 365.010.20
[34:35.760 --> 34:44.640]  that only applies to new and used cars, motorcycles, new and used, shell mortgages, which is new
[34:44.640 --> 34:48.280]  and used mobile homes and RVs, and that's it.
[34:48.280 --> 34:56.480]  Then there were two other names on there on his fake loan, and it said TMS Mortgage, DBA,
[34:56.480 --> 34:57.480]  the money store.
[34:57.480 --> 35:01.560]  All right, now everybody's heard of the money store, the nationwide deal.
[35:01.560 --> 35:07.600]  Well, they never came into Missouri ever, and they're still not here, so we did some
[35:07.600 --> 35:14.000]  more searching through open records, and we sat in with the Secretary of State's attorney
[35:14.000 --> 35:20.160]  after we did the open records, we actually sat down there and talked to them, and none
[35:20.160 --> 35:25.760]  of those companies are money, what you call money corporations.
[35:25.760 --> 35:34.200]  In order to loan money for a second mortgage, that comes under chapter 516.420, and they
[35:34.200 --> 35:40.960]  have to be licensed and chartered by the Missouri Division of Finance.
[35:40.960 --> 35:50.960]  So what we really uncovered was about 3,000 fake loans, not making it up, that's a counterfeit
[35:50.960 --> 35:54.120]  security as the day is long.
[35:54.120 --> 36:01.320]  Then the Dita Trust that was made up, now remember, now this is all sold by a siting
[36:01.320 --> 36:02.320]  salesman.
[36:02.320 --> 36:07.000]  Well, that's kind of like going to the used car lot, and the guy sells you a loan without
[36:07.000 --> 36:10.200]  a finance and insurance guy there, okay?
[36:10.200 --> 36:20.280]  Now the Dita Trust was prepared by another company called the Money Store out of California,
[36:20.280 --> 36:27.480]  and they prepared it out of the state of California, transmitted that piece of trash to this guy's
[36:27.480 --> 36:34.560]  office in Columbia, Missouri, and they have been going around to people's homes with fake
[36:34.560 --> 36:42.000]  Dita Trust and fake loans, and getting people's information under false pretenses, and I'm
[36:42.000 --> 36:48.560]  not kidding, we already proved that, and they were put out of business by the Missouri Secretary
[36:48.560 --> 36:56.040]  of State, I think in 2009, and the Missouri Division of Security.
[36:56.040 --> 37:03.800]  Hold on, they, you used a pronoun there that wasn't specific, they who were put out of
[37:03.800 --> 37:05.320]  business, the Money Store?
[37:05.320 --> 37:08.440]  Yeah, the siting company.
[37:08.440 --> 37:12.640]  Oh, okay, so the siting company doesn't exist anymore.
[37:12.640 --> 37:16.200]  Right, they were put out of business.
[37:16.200 --> 37:20.440]  To whom did they assign the mortgage?
[37:20.440 --> 37:23.160]  There was no mortgage.
[37:23.160 --> 37:26.600]  To whom did they assign the Dita Trust?
[37:26.600 --> 37:32.760]  Okay, well, here's what I'm trying to tell you, there is no mortgage, man, it's a fake
[37:32.760 --> 37:33.760]  loan.
[37:33.760 --> 37:39.080]  Okay, stop, stop, you're trying to give me a tiny piece of information, and then another
[37:39.080 --> 37:44.760]  tiny piece of information, and I have no idea where the heck you're going.
[37:44.760 --> 37:52.560]  Get me out here, you said there was a Dita Trust, now you're saying there's not a Dita
[37:52.560 --> 37:53.560]  Trust.
[37:53.560 --> 37:58.880]  Well, I meant not a valid Dita Trust, but yeah, there is a Dita Trust.
[37:58.880 --> 38:05.760]  Okay, then that's what we're going to address, is how to demonstrate that it's not valid,
[38:05.760 --> 38:12.320]  but I'm having trouble getting all the pieces in place, so this siting company's out of
[38:12.320 --> 38:13.320]  business.
[38:13.320 --> 38:14.320]  Right.
[38:14.320 --> 38:21.600]  To whom did they assign the supposed Dita Trust?
[38:21.600 --> 38:28.440]  To the money store out of California, which is not chartered in Missouri at all.
[38:28.440 --> 38:34.880]  Okay, so they can't do business in, okay, have you filed suit against these guys?
[38:34.880 --> 38:43.840]  No, not yet, but we certainly will, but we brought all of this to the attention, the
[38:43.840 --> 38:51.840]  phony letters, the sign to the sheriff's office, and told them that this was a scam, and my
[38:51.840 --> 38:58.080]  brother had never been sued, he'd never had a foreclosure hearing, nothing, and in Missouri
[38:58.080 --> 39:04.840]  you have to hold, there has to be a creditor judgment, and we went up and we went to the
[39:04.840 --> 39:08.960]  court clerk through open records, and there never was one.
[39:08.960 --> 39:19.080]  Okay, the guy who claims to hold your property, what have you done to him?
[39:19.080 --> 39:27.200]  We hired three attorneys to have it set aside in an unlawful foreclosure, and it should
[39:27.200 --> 39:35.200]  have been a fraudulent foreclosure action, and they only wanted to sue this little outfit
[39:35.200 --> 39:42.480]  called HLI, which is some kind of a little business where this guy goes around and buys
[39:42.480 --> 39:53.000]  foreclosed properties out in Nevada, Missouri, and they refused to sue the actual debt collector,
[39:53.000 --> 39:58.160]  and we jumped all over them, and they withdrew from the case because my brother never had
[39:58.160 --> 40:04.880]  any kind of notification, no actual service, he never knew anything that was going on,
[40:04.880 --> 40:05.880]  okay?
[40:05.880 --> 40:11.000]  Okay, they withdrew from the case, had you given them a retainer?
[40:11.000 --> 40:13.920]  We paid them up front, yes.
[40:13.920 --> 40:16.400]  Did they return all your money?
[40:16.400 --> 40:17.800]  No sir.
[40:17.800 --> 40:26.840]  Sue them, lawyers are low hanging fruit, sue them for inadequate assistance of counsel,
[40:26.840 --> 40:34.000]  they'll get their insurance carry to pay you, but back to these other guys, okay, did you
[40:34.000 --> 40:44.080]  sue the, see, okay, what you, nothing the other guys did actually caused you harm, what
[40:44.080 --> 40:52.400]  caused you harm was this guy coming claiming that he owned your property, yes, you have
[40:52.400 --> 41:03.080]  to go to him, sue him, these, you know, you've got all this supposed other things happened,
[41:03.080 --> 41:08.320]  but they're not causing you harm, this is the guy causing you harm, you don't know
[41:08.320 --> 41:15.280]  if he's valid or not, you don't know if he has anything to do with all these other people.
[41:15.280 --> 41:21.320]  What you know is he's coming after you, he's coming to you trying to take your property.
[41:21.320 --> 41:27.920]  Well, we brought all this to the attention of the sheriff, he wrote a letter back and
[41:27.920 --> 41:34.400]  says you don't have probable cause and we're not going to investigate when there was.
[41:34.400 --> 41:41.680]  So then we went to the prosecuting attorney's office and we asked them if the sheriff had
[41:41.680 --> 41:48.120]  ever talked to them about taking this to the judge and they threatened us and they run
[41:48.120 --> 41:56.520]  us out, I'm not kidding, so then we went to the court clerk, pardon me?
[41:56.520 --> 41:59.960]  So did you prepare and file a criminal complaint?
[41:59.960 --> 42:07.640]  Yes, I did, and I gave it to the sheriff and he refused anything with it, the sheriff has
[42:07.640 --> 42:13.000]  no duty to do anything with your criminal complaints, a magistrate has a duty to do something
[42:13.000 --> 42:14.520]  with your criminal complaints.
[42:14.520 --> 42:20.920]  Right, right, I understand that, but there was reasonable suspicion that there was a
[42:20.920 --> 42:27.360]  crime committed, the guy trespassed on the neighbor's place and then he sends out 3 letters
[42:27.360 --> 42:29.160]  demanding money.
[42:29.160 --> 42:35.720]  Hold on, hold on, that doesn't put a duty, it doesn't invoke the sheriff's duty.
[42:35.720 --> 42:43.720]  Did the owner of the property file a criminal trespass complaint and was the property posted
[42:43.720 --> 42:45.720]  no trespassing?
[42:45.720 --> 42:46.720]  Yes.
[42:46.720 --> 42:51.320]  Did, okay, yes to both?
[42:51.320 --> 42:52.320]  Yes.
[42:52.320 --> 42:57.280]  So the other property owner filed a criminal trespass complaint and the sheriff refused
[42:57.280 --> 42:58.280]  to act?
[42:58.280 --> 43:04.080]  Yes, we filed a criminal trespass complaint with the sheriff, we gave it to him and he
[43:04.080 --> 43:05.080]  refused to do it.
[43:05.080 --> 43:10.320]  Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, did they trespass on your property?
[43:10.320 --> 43:11.320]  No.
[43:11.320 --> 43:18.920]  You can't criminal trespass someone for criminal trespassing on somebody else's property.
[43:18.920 --> 43:20.320]  They would have to do that.
[43:20.320 --> 43:27.720]  All right, what about the 3 letters asking for money and we had a forensic loan audit
[43:27.720 --> 43:36.000]  done by a gentleman I know out of Butchboro, Massachusetts and the local abstract and they
[43:36.000 --> 43:39.120]  kept calling and said they was all forgeries.
[43:39.120 --> 43:44.520]  Okay, hang on, I'm about to go to our sponsors, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, rule of law
[43:44.520 --> 43:45.520]  radio.
[43:45.520 --> 43:50.920]  I'm not going to give out the caller a number, we got Tina and Rick on the line, we'll get
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[46:22.360 --> 46:49.240]  Okay, we are back to Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, rule of law radio and we're talking
[46:49.240 --> 46:55.600]  to Terry in Missouri and Terry's done a lot of homework, but somehow you seem to be pointing
[46:55.600 --> 46:56.600]  in an odd direction.
[46:56.600 --> 47:01.400]  Well, you know, I got a little bit more to tell you and I'm a little bit off target
[47:01.400 --> 47:02.400]  there.
[47:02.400 --> 47:03.400]  I'm tired, man.
[47:03.400 --> 47:05.400]  I've been up for about 30 hours.
[47:05.400 --> 47:13.360]  There's no promissory note with this thing and so after we didn't get anywhere and we
[47:13.360 --> 47:18.600]  found out that they were forgeries and you don't be asking people money through the mail
[47:18.600 --> 47:22.560]  with no way of identifying yourself, okay?
[47:22.560 --> 47:26.400]  That's pretty obvious, there's a problem.
[47:26.400 --> 47:30.440]  And did you file that with the feds, with the postal inspectors?
[47:30.440 --> 47:33.840]  Oh, we're about ready to do that, yes.
[47:33.840 --> 47:40.200]  Okay, now we went to the court clerk and we said we have an issue that we need to talk
[47:40.200 --> 47:46.080]  to the judge about right now today and they basically said, well, we don't do that here
[47:46.080 --> 47:53.720]  and so we filed this criminal complaint after the attorneys had withdrew with the court clerk
[47:53.720 --> 48:00.140]  and got it file stamped and there was a motions hearing about two weeks later and that was
[48:00.140 --> 48:01.140]  valid evidence.
[48:01.140 --> 48:02.360]  Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
[48:02.360 --> 48:03.360]  Hold on, hold on.
[48:03.360 --> 48:06.760]  Emotions hearing on a criminal complaint?
[48:06.760 --> 48:08.840]  They accepted it.
[48:08.840 --> 48:12.440]  Yeah, who filed motions?
[48:12.440 --> 48:18.800]  Well, we just filed that as evidence and we wanted the judge to look at.
[48:18.800 --> 48:20.320]  Oh, okay.
[48:20.320 --> 48:24.800]  Then you didn't file criminal complaints.
[48:24.800 --> 48:30.280]  You needed to file a verified criminal affidavit with the judge as a verified criminal complaint
[48:30.280 --> 48:32.640]  and invoke his duty as a magistrate.
[48:32.640 --> 48:35.120]  Otherwise, they're just exhibits.
[48:35.120 --> 48:37.440]  No, we did.
[48:37.440 --> 48:38.840]  We did do that.
[48:38.840 --> 48:39.840]  Okay.
[48:39.840 --> 48:40.840]  We couldn't.
[48:40.840 --> 48:45.480]  We didn't get in front of the judge right away to personally talk to the man.
[48:45.480 --> 48:51.200]  We went ahead and absolutely filed them with the court clerk and she file stamped it and
[48:51.200 --> 48:57.360]  we told her, okay, we'll come back in and talk to the judge two weeks later, which we did.
[48:57.360 --> 49:01.120]  The judge, like you said, he becomes a magistrate.
[49:01.120 --> 49:02.720]  That's great.
[49:02.720 --> 49:10.920]  He exploded at my brother and made some unbelievable allegations that he was there to threaten
[49:10.920 --> 49:15.600]  them and it was quite the obvious, all right.
[49:15.600 --> 49:16.600]  Okay.
[49:16.600 --> 49:19.640]  Did you call 911 on the judge?
[49:19.640 --> 49:22.360]  I didn't know to do that or I would have done that.
[49:22.360 --> 49:28.080]  If judges don't raise their voice to me, I take that as assault.
[49:28.080 --> 49:29.080]  Okay.
[49:29.080 --> 49:30.080]  Go ahead.
[49:30.080 --> 49:31.080]  Well, it was.
[49:31.080 --> 49:33.120]  Yeah, that's an act of bias.
[49:33.120 --> 49:42.280]  So he violated a bunch of cannon law laws and Missouri Supreme Court rules in one statute.
[49:42.280 --> 49:49.200]  Now during this whole time, it forced my brother to file a federal bankruptcy.
[49:49.200 --> 49:58.520]  It was under the jurisdiction of a bankruptcy trustee in Kansas City the whole time, all
[49:58.520 --> 49:59.520]  right.
[49:59.520 --> 50:04.520]  And so we challenge you to hold on, hold on.
[50:04.520 --> 50:08.800]  You're not making sense here.
[50:08.800 --> 50:16.040]  You filed some papers with a judge in a case that was ongoing.
[50:16.040 --> 50:17.720]  What case was that?
[50:17.720 --> 50:23.720]  Yeah, there was a quiet title action that these attorneys withdrew from.
[50:23.720 --> 50:27.600]  Was this a quiet title action you filed?
[50:27.600 --> 50:31.800]  No, the two attorneys that we had hired get that.
[50:31.800 --> 50:35.520]  No, no, you're you're missing words with me.
[50:35.520 --> 50:42.320]  Did the attorneys file the quiet title action in your brother's behalf?
[50:42.320 --> 50:43.320]  Yes.
[50:43.320 --> 50:44.320]  Okay.
[50:44.320 --> 50:47.840]  That's the struggling here.
[50:47.840 --> 50:53.560]  So you had a case before the court and you filed criminal charges into the case.
[50:53.560 --> 50:54.560]  Yeah.
[50:54.560 --> 50:59.600]  Did the judge hold a preliminary hearing based on your criminal charges?
[50:59.600 --> 51:03.160]  He refused and that's when he threatened us.
[51:03.160 --> 51:05.400]  Then sue the judge personally.
[51:05.400 --> 51:08.040]  Well, we will do that.
[51:08.040 --> 51:09.840]  We know he's got a problem.
[51:09.840 --> 51:14.800]  I put in a motion for change of judge.
[51:14.800 --> 51:22.280]  I put in there all the things that had went off, went in all the letters, all the stuff
[51:22.280 --> 51:27.920]  and he saw that and when he got off, this was last Monday, we had another hearing with
[51:27.920 --> 51:33.840]  this judge and his attorney and I'm going to tell you what, it was worth all the crap
[51:33.840 --> 51:35.680]  we put up with.
[51:35.680 --> 51:42.800]  He never filed, he never opposed it and he had his chin on his chest and the attorney
[51:42.800 --> 51:46.640]  came in behind him and they didn't look at anybody.
[51:46.640 --> 51:47.640]  They backed up.
[51:47.640 --> 51:48.640]  Wait a minute.
[51:48.640 --> 51:49.640]  Wait a minute.
[51:49.640 --> 51:50.640]  You're using pronouns.
[51:50.640 --> 51:53.680]  He had his chin on his chest.
[51:53.680 --> 51:54.680]  Who is he?
[51:54.680 --> 51:57.120]  The judge or the attorney?
[51:57.120 --> 51:58.120]  Yes.
[51:58.120 --> 51:59.640]  The both did.
[51:59.640 --> 52:00.640]  Okay.
[52:00.640 --> 52:01.640]  Go ahead.
[52:01.640 --> 52:06.560]  I'm trying to keep up here.
[52:06.560 --> 52:08.560]  Okay.
[52:08.560 --> 52:16.960]  It was a motion for a change of judge because of all the rule violations that he did in
[52:16.960 --> 52:19.000]  the manner that he acted.
[52:19.000 --> 52:20.720]  Okay.
[52:20.720 --> 52:22.600]  How did that work out?
[52:22.600 --> 52:26.040]  Oh, they buckled.
[52:26.040 --> 52:27.040]  I'm not kidding you.
[52:27.040 --> 52:30.560]  That's when the judge, he refused to look at anybody.
[52:30.560 --> 52:37.680]  He was very nervous and the attorney was very nervous and the attorney walked up to the judge.
[52:37.680 --> 52:43.600]  He says, your honor, we want to give back Mr. Owens's deed of trust back to him, the
[52:43.600 --> 52:46.800]  title and we want to settle with him.
[52:46.800 --> 52:47.800]  Okay.
[52:47.800 --> 52:48.800]  Okay.
[52:48.800 --> 52:49.800]  Wait a minute.
[52:49.800 --> 52:50.800]  The proper.
[52:50.800 --> 52:53.800]  You should have led, you kicked their butts.
[52:53.800 --> 52:54.800]  Yeah.
[52:54.800 --> 52:55.800]  Yeah.
[52:55.800 --> 52:58.800]  You made me wait this long.
[52:58.800 --> 52:59.800]  Yeah.
[52:59.800 --> 53:00.800]  Well, I had to tell you.
[53:00.800 --> 53:01.800]  Yeah.
[53:01.800 --> 53:03.800]  We're trying to figure out how to help.
[53:03.800 --> 53:04.800]  Yeah.
[53:04.800 --> 53:05.800]  What is this guy going?
[53:05.800 --> 53:10.800]  You should have called to the beginning.
[53:10.800 --> 53:11.800]  Yeah.
[53:11.800 --> 53:12.800]  Well, hold on a minute.
[53:12.800 --> 53:13.800]  I know.
[53:13.800 --> 53:14.800]  I know.
[53:14.800 --> 53:15.800]  I had to set the stage.
[53:15.800 --> 53:16.800]  Excuse me.
[53:16.800 --> 53:20.640]  The judge was shaken when he got off the elevator.
[53:20.640 --> 53:22.440]  He obstructed justice.
[53:22.440 --> 53:29.960]  I put in there the Missouri statute, the obstruction of justice statute and all the case law that
[53:29.960 --> 53:35.800]  we dug up down at the archives at the secretary of state and he was, he was shaken.
[53:35.800 --> 53:38.440]  Now, he had no jurisdiction.
[53:38.440 --> 53:45.640]  We challenged jurisdiction and anytime you put in a motion for a change of judge, they
[53:45.640 --> 53:48.400]  always file something to oppose that.
[53:48.400 --> 53:49.400]  He never did.
[53:49.400 --> 53:50.400]  He acquiesced.
[53:50.400 --> 53:57.040]  So he's in deep trouble and this attorney was shaken and he said, we'll, we'll settle
[53:57.040 --> 54:02.920]  with you, Mr. Owens and we're going to give you your title back.
[54:02.920 --> 54:11.600]  And so here's the real fun stuff, the debt collector and this guy who filed these forgeries
[54:11.600 --> 54:17.520]  and we know they're forgeries because there was never a loan.
[54:17.520 --> 54:20.880]  There was never anything for 23 and a half years.
[54:20.880 --> 54:29.400]  There's no promissory note and we had a forensic loan audit did on the entire 23 year history
[54:29.400 --> 54:35.360]  and this guy's been an expert witness his entire life as a CPA and he said, everything
[54:35.360 --> 54:37.400]  in there is a forgery.
[54:37.400 --> 54:43.640]  And then we did a title and abstract report with a local title company and they said the
[54:43.640 --> 54:44.640]  same thing.
[54:44.640 --> 54:52.160]  Now, this judge and his attorney had all this even the long before the hearing and this
[54:52.160 --> 54:58.960]  judge bolted and says, I'm not going to hear any of this and he got real smart and threatened
[54:58.960 --> 55:05.720]  my brother and scared to crap out him and he instructed the court clerk to remove everything
[55:05.720 --> 55:09.680]  off the docket sheet, which he did.
[55:09.680 --> 55:13.320]  Now the docket sheet is missing.
[55:13.320 --> 55:17.920]  Okay, what do you intend to do?
[55:17.920 --> 55:23.960]  Oh, well, here's the fun stuff, Randy.
[55:23.960 --> 55:30.560]  The value of my brother's farm is well over $250,000.
[55:30.560 --> 55:31.880]  They stole it.
[55:31.880 --> 55:37.200]  That's a real estate title theft scheme that these guys are pulling off and it's also the
[55:37.200 --> 55:45.480]  unlawful collection of a fictitious debt that had never existed for 24 years and we also
[55:45.480 --> 55:51.720]  uncovered there's about 3,000 more of these and this judge didn't want anybody to know
[55:51.720 --> 55:55.640]  anything about it and that's going on around here.
[55:55.640 --> 56:03.040]  Now when I told you earlier that the Missouri Secretary of State in a collaboration with
[56:03.040 --> 56:08.640]  the Missouri Securities Department, they got together and they put a little itty-bitty
[56:08.640 --> 56:15.440]  siting company out of business, those two and yet they never arrested these people for
[56:15.440 --> 56:23.160]  selling 3,000 fake loans and 3,000 fake deeds of trust.
[56:23.160 --> 56:26.160]  They're still walking the street, okay?
[56:26.160 --> 56:27.680]  Can you imagine that?
[56:27.680 --> 56:35.920]  Yes, I can as a matter of fact, nobody does their job.
[56:35.920 --> 56:39.440]  So what are you going to do about it?
[56:39.440 --> 56:43.720]  Yeah, we're going to go into federal court, we're going to go to their little hearing
[56:43.720 --> 56:49.400]  but I put another motion in to recuse this judge because he can't even touch this thing.
[56:49.400 --> 56:54.080]  He was shaking and my brother says, well, you're not even supposed to be here, Judge
[56:54.080 --> 56:59.400]  and he didn't say a thing, okay, it's unbelievable.
[56:59.400 --> 57:08.480]  Okay, one thing I suggest you do, go to the county recorder's office and run the judge's
[57:08.480 --> 57:17.000]  name, look at the properties he has and see if he has properties where he's taken loans
[57:17.000 --> 57:21.840]  out against these properties and then the loans get paid off quickly and then he takes
[57:21.840 --> 57:25.320]  another loan out and it gets paid off quickly.
[57:25.320 --> 57:30.320]  This is a favorite way of judges to launder their slush money.
[57:30.320 --> 57:39.160]  Well, plus the fact, we don't know if this guy might have ruled on cases where these
[57:39.160 --> 57:44.480]  same people have been pulling this crap and nobody ever uncovered what we uncovered.
[57:44.480 --> 57:49.400]  He might be trying to keep the prosecutor and the sheriff out of hot water because there
[57:49.400 --> 57:54.720]  is probable cause and reasonable situation to look into this.
[57:54.720 --> 57:55.720]  Okay, good.
[57:55.720 --> 58:00.200]  I do need to move along, we've got three or four callers and I've got one I wanted to
[58:00.200 --> 58:06.440]  spend an hour with and I'm going to run out of time but go after them, keep us up to date
[58:06.440 --> 58:09.720]  on what you're doing with them.
[58:09.720 --> 58:22.080]  Hey, Jerry, he dropped off, okay, we got Tina and Rick, we're lost and they got Dr. Joe
[58:22.080 --> 58:27.080]  on the line, we want to talk about Victoria County, my clock went down, oh there it is,
[58:27.080 --> 58:28.080]  there it is.
[58:28.080 --> 58:33.200]  Okay, when we get to Dr. Joe we want to talk about Victoria County, it is a mess down there.
[58:33.200 --> 58:38.720]  Okay, hang on, go into our sponsors, we'll be right back.
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[01:00:46.360 --> 01:00:49.080]  Imagine your mom and dad are getting ready for bed.
[01:00:49.080 --> 01:00:52.160]  They pull back the covers and find a third party there.
[01:00:52.160 --> 01:00:55.360]  He announces, I'm with the military and I'm sleeping here tonight.
[01:00:55.360 --> 01:00:59.480]  That shocking image of a third party in my parents' bed reminds me what the Third Amendment
[01:00:59.480 --> 01:01:01.080]  was designed to prevent.
[01:01:01.080 --> 01:01:05.320]  It protects us from being forced to share our homes with soldiers, a common demand in
[01:01:05.320 --> 01:01:07.440]  the days of our founding fathers.
[01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:09.120]  Third party, Third Amendment?
[01:01:09.120 --> 01:01:10.120]  Get it?
[01:01:10.120 --> 01:01:13.960]  So if you answer a knock at your door and guys in fatigues demand lodging, tune to dust
[01:01:13.960 --> 01:01:17.120]  off their copy of the Bill of Rights and reread the Third Amendment.
[01:01:17.120 --> 01:01:32.120]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, more news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[01:01:32.120 --> 01:01:35.800]  The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution.
[01:01:35.800 --> 01:01:39.280]  They guarantee it is specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[01:01:39.280 --> 01:01:40.800]  Our liberty depends on it.
[01:01:40.800 --> 01:01:44.600]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember
[01:01:44.600 --> 01:02:14.560]  one of your constitutional rights.
[01:02:15.600 --> 01:02:20.800]  Imagine four eyes staring at you through binoculars, a magnifying glass or a pair of
[01:02:20.800 --> 01:02:21.800]  X-ray goggles.
[01:02:21.800 --> 01:02:26.680]  That imagery reminds me that the Fourth Amendment guarantees Americans freedom from unreasonable
[01:02:26.680 --> 01:02:28.160]  search and seizure.
[01:02:28.160 --> 01:02:29.160]  Fourth Amendment?
[01:02:29.160 --> 01:02:30.520]  Four eyes staring at you?
[01:02:30.520 --> 01:02:31.520]  Get it?
[01:02:31.520 --> 01:02:34.560]  Unfortunately, the government is trampling our Fourth Amendment rights in the name of
[01:02:34.560 --> 01:02:35.560]  security.
[01:02:35.560 --> 01:02:40.160]  Case in point, TSA airport scanners that peer under your clothing.
[01:02:40.160 --> 01:02:44.200]  When government employees demand a peep at your privates without probable cause, I say
[01:02:44.200 --> 01:02:47.080]  it's time to sound the constitutional alarm bells.
[01:02:47.080 --> 01:02:50.800]  Join me in asking our representatives to dust off the Bill of Rights and use their
[01:02:50.800 --> 01:02:53.360]  googly eyes to take a gander at the Fourth.
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[01:05:10.320 --> 01:05:15.320]  Okay, now we're going to Rick in Virginia.
[01:05:15.320 --> 01:05:18.320]  Hello, Rick.
[01:05:18.320 --> 01:05:20.320]  What do you have for us today?
[01:05:20.320 --> 01:05:24.320]  My screen is not refreshing very fast.
[01:05:24.320 --> 01:05:27.320]  Okay, now you're unmuted.
[01:05:27.320 --> 01:05:31.320]  Well, good evening, Randy and Brett.
[01:05:31.320 --> 01:05:33.320]  I just wanted to give you a little update here.
[01:05:33.320 --> 01:05:35.320]  And I have three specific questions.
[01:05:35.320 --> 01:05:37.320]  I called you a couple of weeks ago.
[01:05:37.320 --> 01:05:41.320]  I'm the guy that got hemmed up on the Navy base.
[01:05:41.320 --> 01:05:51.320]  And as it turned out, all of those violation notices were dismissed before I even made it in the courtroom, which kind of took the wind out of my sails.
[01:05:51.320 --> 01:06:06.320]  But the three specific questions I have for you guys tonight is one, I want to file a 42-1983 case in the state circuit court because all of these guys that I'm filing against are federal employees.
[01:06:06.320 --> 01:06:16.320]  And two, I want to know how do I keep it in state court without having them try to remove it and put it back with the fed?
[01:06:16.320 --> 01:06:17.320]  You can't.
[01:06:17.320 --> 01:06:26.320]  And if you're filing under 42 U.S. Code 1983, that's fed.
[01:06:26.320 --> 01:06:30.320]  I have been led to believe that you're doing that.
[01:06:30.320 --> 01:06:38.320]  You're probably thinking in terms of let's take the state to the feds and let's take the fed to the state.
[01:06:38.320 --> 01:06:46.320]  And the way you do that, you have to use what you're accusing them of doing.
[01:06:46.320 --> 01:06:57.320]  And when you choose that you're bringing a Title 42 U.S. Code, that U.S. Code is a federal.
[01:06:57.320 --> 01:07:08.320]  U.S. Code, Section 1983, then you're saying that in your suit you're saying some state actors deprived your federally protected rights.
[01:07:08.320 --> 01:07:12.320]  So you need to spin it around and take it in the other direction.
[01:07:12.320 --> 01:07:30.320]  You need to, instead of choosing a federal thing to point the finger and accuse of, you need to find in the state where those same people did the different kind of violation.
[01:07:30.320 --> 01:07:33.320]  Does that make sense?
[01:07:33.320 --> 01:07:34.320]  Yeah.
[01:07:34.320 --> 01:07:53.320]  I have, like in, was it Virginia, do you have some penal code or criminal code that can tell you, here are actions that comprise a certain offense in the state of Virginia.
[01:07:53.320 --> 01:07:57.320]  That's what you want to point your finger.
[01:07:57.320 --> 01:07:59.320]  Yes, I've actually looked up several of those.
[01:07:59.320 --> 01:08:07.320]  I can't quote them off for you here tonight, but I have done that, looked into that in case this was not a viable option.
[01:08:07.320 --> 01:08:11.320]  But yeah, there's all kinds of state violations those guys done.
[01:08:11.320 --> 01:08:21.320]  I plan on taking the police officer that initiated this whole thing, his police chief, commanding officer of the base.
[01:08:21.320 --> 01:08:30.320]  And the funny thing was when they released me from the police station, I ended up with five violation notices and a temporary exclusion order from the base.
[01:08:30.320 --> 01:08:44.320]  Well, I had since appealed that and I got the answer back to my appeal and I'm terminated from all military installations indefinitely, the whole mid-Atlantic regional area.
[01:08:44.320 --> 01:08:56.320]  And so now I'm looking into that, I got a handle on that, but the guy, the Navy captain that denied that, he's going to be included in that suit because as soon as I get some instructions.
[01:08:56.320 --> 01:09:02.320]  Okay, so far this is all state.
[01:09:02.320 --> 01:09:05.320]  I'm preparing a suit against the governor.
[01:09:05.320 --> 01:09:11.320]  It's about 150 pages and all state charges.
[01:09:11.320 --> 01:09:19.320]  Now, everything he did, I could claim under the Fed, but I was very careful to claim it all under the state.
[01:09:19.320 --> 01:09:24.320]  So I'll take them on in the state and we may move to the Fed later.
[01:09:24.320 --> 01:09:27.320]  But if I take them in the Fed, then I can't do the state.
[01:09:27.320 --> 01:09:35.320]  So you want to make state charges just because this guy works for the federal government.
[01:09:35.320 --> 01:09:41.320]  He is not in a federal enclave.
[01:09:41.320 --> 01:09:45.320]  The bases in Texas do not belong to the federal government.
[01:09:45.320 --> 01:09:50.320]  They belong to the state and the federal government leases them.
[01:09:50.320 --> 01:10:01.320]  Federal courthouses, the only thing that are federal enclaves as a rule are major courts and federal prisons.
[01:10:01.320 --> 01:10:05.320]  So that the feds can hire their own security.
[01:10:05.320 --> 01:10:07.320]  But this base is in the state.
[01:10:07.320 --> 01:10:15.320]  Do you remember the movie The Presidio with Sean Connery and the guy from NCIS?
[01:10:15.320 --> 01:10:17.320]  I'm not much of a movie fan.
[01:10:17.320 --> 01:10:24.320]  Okay, well, a guy with someone was killed on the base and the local sheriff came in and investigated.
[01:10:24.320 --> 01:10:26.320]  Now, they had base security.
[01:10:26.320 --> 01:10:34.320]  But the local sheriff had jurisdiction not to feds because they were in the state.
[01:10:34.320 --> 01:10:38.320]  So be careful how you charge them.
[01:10:38.320 --> 01:10:44.320]  Charge them with violating state law and you can get them in the state.
[01:10:44.320 --> 01:10:54.320]  Okay, so if I go ahead and use nothing but Virginia state charges, civil and criminal, whatever the case may be,
[01:10:54.320 --> 01:11:00.320]  which there's two handfuls of them I could use.
[01:11:00.320 --> 01:11:06.320]  Is that going to preclude the feds from the guys I'm taking into court?
[01:11:06.320 --> 01:11:13.320]  Is it going to prevent them from somehow violating some magic paper and get it put into the fed?
[01:11:13.320 --> 01:11:18.320]  No, they can only deal with the claims you bring.
[01:11:18.320 --> 01:11:19.320]  Okay.
[01:11:19.320 --> 01:11:24.320]  If you don't bring any federal claims, they don't have federal jurisdiction.
[01:11:24.320 --> 01:11:36.320]  If all of the acts you accuse them of occurred in the state and all of the claims that you make are state claims,
[01:11:36.320 --> 01:11:39.320]  there's no diversity jurisdiction.
[01:11:39.320 --> 01:11:46.320]  There's no federal law question.
[01:11:46.320 --> 01:11:50.320]  Yeah, and also within the boundaries of this city.
[01:11:50.320 --> 01:11:51.320]  Yes.
[01:11:51.320 --> 01:12:00.320]  Yeah, we had a caller earlier in the evening who you might have heard Ted talking about a removal.
[01:12:00.320 --> 01:12:07.320]  And yeah, it's possible that your defendants could try to remove it to the fed.
[01:12:07.320 --> 01:12:13.320]  And it would be temporarily in the fed while the fed says this is ridiculous.
[01:12:13.320 --> 01:12:16.320]  We don't have any jurisdiction here.
[01:12:16.320 --> 01:12:21.320]  We can't take this and then it would go back to the state.
[01:12:21.320 --> 01:12:22.320]  Okay.
[01:12:22.320 --> 01:12:31.320]  I was just wondering if there's anything other than just using Virginia only law that would allow it to stay in the state like there's...
[01:12:31.320 --> 01:12:39.320]  Yeah, if you simply mentioned the U.S. Constitution, they can jerk it out to the fed.
[01:12:39.320 --> 01:12:42.320]  Okay, so stick with Virginia Constitution only.
[01:12:42.320 --> 01:12:43.320]  Exactly.
[01:12:43.320 --> 01:12:44.320]  Gotcha.
[01:12:44.320 --> 01:12:45.320]  Gotcha.
[01:12:45.320 --> 01:12:48.320]  Okay, I'm writing all this down.
[01:12:48.320 --> 01:12:51.320]  Okay guys, it sounds like you answered all my questions.
[01:12:51.320 --> 01:12:53.320]  I certainly appreciate your time.
[01:12:53.320 --> 01:12:55.320]  Okay, thank you.
[01:12:55.320 --> 01:12:57.320]  Now we're going to go...
[01:12:57.320 --> 01:13:02.320]  I'm going to try Tina again.
[01:13:02.320 --> 01:13:07.320]  Hello Tina.
[01:13:07.320 --> 01:13:11.320]  Hello Tina, are you there?
[01:13:11.320 --> 01:13:15.320]  I am hearing something.
[01:13:15.320 --> 01:13:17.320]  I don't know if that's from Brett's...
[01:13:17.320 --> 01:13:19.320]  I hear something in the background.
[01:13:19.320 --> 01:13:20.320]  No, it's not mine.
[01:13:20.320 --> 01:13:22.320]  I think that's on Tina's end.
[01:13:22.320 --> 01:13:27.320]  Hello Tina, we're not hearing you.
[01:13:27.320 --> 01:13:31.320]  She might be trying to switch from her Bluetooth or something.
[01:13:31.320 --> 01:13:34.320]  It sounds like a chicken in the background.
[01:13:34.320 --> 01:13:40.320]  Tina, you got a chicken?
[01:13:40.320 --> 01:13:43.320]  Okay, I heard you chuckle.
[01:13:43.320 --> 01:13:46.320]  It was a chuckle, it wasn't a cackle.
[01:13:46.320 --> 01:13:51.320]  Yeah, I've got to get into the other room where I can hear you.
[01:13:51.320 --> 01:13:53.320]  There we go.
[01:13:53.320 --> 01:13:57.320]  We've been holding for so long.
[01:13:57.320 --> 01:14:01.320]  Okay, what do you have for us today?
[01:14:01.320 --> 01:14:10.320]  Well, he was talking to Tommy last night about stuff that was really interesting.
[01:14:10.320 --> 01:14:17.320]  But you forgot to tell him that that only works in states other than California.
[01:14:17.320 --> 01:14:22.320]  Because everything you said that, oh, this happens and this happens and this happens.
[01:14:22.320 --> 01:14:26.320]  Yeah, it does except in California to me.
[01:14:26.320 --> 01:14:30.320]  Because everything did not happen that way.
[01:14:30.320 --> 01:14:34.320]  So I have to scold you there just a little bit.
[01:14:34.320 --> 01:14:37.320]  I'm not sure what you're talking about.
[01:14:37.320 --> 01:14:43.320]  You were talking to him about, oh, if you are a bar group, the attorneys, they'll run away.
[01:14:43.320 --> 01:14:45.320]  If you do this, they'll run away.
[01:14:45.320 --> 01:14:46.320]  Yeah.
[01:14:46.320 --> 01:14:48.320]  No, not in California, they don't.
[01:14:48.320 --> 01:14:53.320]  Or at least not in my case, they didn't.
[01:14:53.320 --> 01:14:56.320]  Yeah, it was surprising in your case they didn't.
[01:14:56.320 --> 01:14:57.320]  Yeah.
[01:14:57.320 --> 01:14:58.320]  They hung around.
[01:14:58.320 --> 01:15:07.320]  And maybe it's because they had a too big an interest in the case.
[01:15:07.320 --> 01:15:08.320]  That could be something.
[01:15:08.320 --> 01:15:11.320]  Yeah, I think that can happen.
[01:15:11.320 --> 01:15:13.320]  Pardon?
[01:15:13.320 --> 01:15:14.320]  I do.
[01:15:14.320 --> 01:15:23.320]  I think that can happen where they are, the interests that they're fighting for are paying them,
[01:15:23.320 --> 01:15:30.320]  not just for your house, but to do this on a broad, a wide scale.
[01:15:30.320 --> 01:15:35.320]  And so they really, they can't afford to let you win.
[01:15:35.320 --> 01:15:36.320]  They can't afford to run away.
[01:15:36.320 --> 01:15:41.320]  It hurts them and they just have to stay in there and take it.
[01:15:41.320 --> 01:15:44.320]  And I think that happened sometimes.
[01:15:44.320 --> 01:15:46.320]  I think that's what was happening with Miss Patty.
[01:15:46.320 --> 01:15:49.320]  That's why I had to go through 12 of them.
[01:15:49.320 --> 01:15:50.320]  Wow.
[01:15:50.320 --> 01:15:57.320]  One after the other would disappear, but the law firm stood there.
[01:15:57.320 --> 01:16:05.320]  And I don't know if that, if it, you know, Randy was talking about how the law firm loses their malpractice insurance.
[01:16:05.320 --> 01:16:15.320]  And when I think about, well, it must have been really invaluable for them to continue to keep Deutsche Bank for their client.
[01:16:15.320 --> 01:16:16.320]  Yeah.
[01:16:16.320 --> 01:16:24.320]  And, you know, this $100,000 home was not really at all what it was about.
[01:16:24.320 --> 01:16:25.320]  About them.
[01:16:25.320 --> 01:16:30.320]  So it was, it was good that then you went on to say something that I've never heard you say before,
[01:16:30.320 --> 01:16:34.320]  and that I thought, well, is that the case?
[01:16:34.320 --> 01:16:36.320]  And you were trying to run me off the case, Randy.
[01:16:36.320 --> 01:16:39.320]  I know it's not that, but you.
[01:16:39.320 --> 01:16:41.320]  Okay.
[01:16:41.320 --> 01:16:46.320]  So I'm going to go on Randy Kelsen and we're at Fountain Blue Law Radio.
[01:16:46.320 --> 01:16:48.320]  We'll be right back.
[01:16:48.320 --> 01:17:14.320]  We'll be right back.
[01:17:18.320 --> 01:17:44.320]  We'll be right back.
[01:17:44.320 --> 01:18:10.320]  We'll be right back.
[01:18:10.320 --> 01:18:37.320]  We'll be right back.
[01:18:37.320 --> 01:19:00.320]  We'll be right back.
[01:19:00.320 --> 01:19:15.320]  We'll be right back.
[01:19:15.320 --> 01:19:40.320]  We'll be right back.
[01:19:40.320 --> 01:19:45.320]  Okay, we are back.
[01:19:45.320 --> 01:19:51.320]  And we are speaking to sweet, kind, nonchirlish Tina.
[01:19:51.320 --> 01:19:53.320]  Well, thank you, Randy.
[01:19:53.320 --> 01:19:54.320]  That's what it should be.
[01:19:54.320 --> 01:19:57.320]  That's what you should think.
[01:19:57.320 --> 01:19:58.320]  Okay.
[01:19:58.320 --> 01:19:59.320]  Okay.
[01:19:59.320 --> 01:20:08.320]  You said something very interesting last night as well, that you've never told me before that I'd never heard you say before.
[01:20:08.320 --> 01:20:10.320]  And I wanted to.
[01:20:10.320 --> 01:20:14.320]  Are you saying he's never said anything interesting?
[01:20:14.320 --> 01:20:16.320]  Well, I wouldn't say.
[01:20:16.320 --> 01:20:21.320]  You're interrupting the guest.
[01:20:21.320 --> 01:20:39.320]  But you told him something about if you should, he should talk about strike, go filing a motion to strike a document that was not verified with a power of attorney.
[01:20:39.320 --> 01:21:02.320]  And you've never said that before that, at least that I've heard, and I have the corporate assignment of deed of trust signed by the notorious Robo sign of Brian Bly and Crystal Moore, both of whom have been deposed in Florida court and admitted to not finding everything and having other people sign.
[01:21:02.320 --> 01:21:07.320]  And Brian Bly says he's the attorney in fact.
[01:21:07.320 --> 01:21:15.320]  The attorney, but there's no paper stating that in court.
[01:21:15.320 --> 01:21:23.320]  And I went to the Orange County register, they said, well, you know, it would be in the Orange County register.
[01:21:23.320 --> 01:21:31.320]  If he did that, because if not, you know, one West would have assigned it themselves. Well, they kind of find something to themselves from the FDIC.
[01:21:31.320 --> 01:21:43.320]  The FDIC would have assigned it. But there is nowhere that, you know, a document is where he is appointed attorney in fact.
[01:21:43.320 --> 01:21:48.320]  It is not in existence in the County recorders office.
[01:21:48.320 --> 01:21:58.320]  And you said that if it's not in existence, that you should, we should file a strike that and everything after that is void.
[01:21:58.320 --> 01:22:06.320]  Yes. Well, what you do is you claim that this document, we're not saying the document itself is invalid.
[01:22:06.320 --> 01:22:11.320]  You're saying it was not properly filed. Correct.
[01:22:11.320 --> 01:22:22.320]  And ask the court to remove it from the record. And if they, the other party wants this in the record, then they can file it properly.
[01:22:22.320 --> 01:22:28.320]  But the date of filing changes.
[01:22:28.320 --> 01:22:34.320]  Deed of trust. Do you have... Which court would I go to? The state court or the federal court?
[01:22:34.320 --> 01:22:38.320]  No, no, this would go in the county court.
[01:22:38.320 --> 01:22:46.320]  The county court is the... Deed of trust records are in the county.
[01:22:46.320 --> 01:22:52.320]  So you'd go to the county judge and ask the county judge simply to correct the public record.
[01:22:52.320 --> 01:23:03.320]  With all this issue, these issues these last few years over the county recorders office's records being screwed up by improper filings.
[01:23:03.320 --> 01:23:08.320]  Here's an improper filing. We're going to ask you to correct it.
[01:23:08.320 --> 01:23:10.320]  Okay.
[01:23:10.320 --> 01:23:18.320]  You're not picking on the other side. You're just saying there is an eye that was not properly dotted.
[01:23:18.320 --> 01:23:30.320]  This person needs to file into the record evidence, verifiable evidence of power of attorney for the act, for the principal.
[01:23:30.320 --> 01:23:39.320]  Then file this document saying that he takes this property that belongs to the principal and transfers it to someone else.
[01:23:39.320 --> 01:23:45.320]  Because I could go down there and file an assignment of a deed of trust.
[01:23:45.320 --> 01:23:49.320]  I got to sign it to anybody I wanted to.
[01:23:49.320 --> 01:23:54.320]  Unless I have to prove up, I have power to do that.
[01:23:54.320 --> 01:24:06.320]  Deed of trust. There's a certain amount of time. I think you've got 60 or 90 days to get it filed in the record.
[01:24:06.320 --> 01:24:12.320]  You've got a grace period after the mortgage is consummated.
[01:24:12.320 --> 01:24:17.320]  You don't have to run down that day and file the deed of trust.
[01:24:17.320 --> 01:24:23.320]  But you do have to file it for the end of 60 or 90 days.
[01:24:23.320 --> 01:24:35.320]  If you don't, then anything filed in the record before you file it after this grace period stands in front of the deed of trust.
[01:24:35.320 --> 01:24:45.320]  So this guy has an assignment and the assignment was put in there.
[01:24:45.320 --> 01:24:54.320]  Say it was Washington Mutual has the mortgage and Washington Mutual assigned it to someone else.
[01:24:54.320 --> 01:25:05.320]  Someone claiming to be from Washington Mutual assigned the mortgage to a third party.
[01:25:05.320 --> 01:25:09.320]  But they didn't show power of attorney.
[01:25:09.320 --> 01:25:17.320]  So we come in 15 years later and say, there's no power of attorney here. Who is this guy?
[01:25:17.320 --> 01:25:25.320]  He claims he works for MERS, but MERS in open court have testified that they don't have any employees.
[01:25:25.320 --> 01:25:32.320]  So that's collateral estoppel. They cannot go into another court and claim they have employees.
[01:25:32.320 --> 01:25:35.320]  Well, this guy claims to be an employee of MERS.
[01:25:35.320 --> 01:25:44.320]  Well, he needs to provide evidence of power of attorney to show that he has authority to file this assignment.
[01:25:44.320 --> 01:25:49.320]  It is. It has no proper evidence of power of attorney.
[01:25:49.320 --> 01:25:53.320]  So it's improperly filed. He has the court to remove it.
[01:25:53.320 --> 01:26:06.320]  Well, any claims against the property that follow that, that are after that was originally filed, now they step in front of it.
[01:26:06.320 --> 01:26:10.320]  They have to go back and file the document correctly.
[01:26:10.320 --> 01:26:15.320]  But now the date is of the date it was filed correctly. Is that making sense, Gina?
[01:26:15.320 --> 01:26:24.320]  Well, it makes sense, but because it would be absolutely fantastic for me if that were actually true and I could do this.
[01:26:24.320 --> 01:26:31.320]  But when you say you file it with a county judge, I've never heard of a county judge.
[01:26:31.320 --> 01:26:35.320]  I mean, you know, where would I find the county judge to do this?
[01:26:35.320 --> 01:26:43.320]  How would I stop? Because this would absolutely invalidate everything, you know, one West Bank and CIT Bank have done since then.
[01:26:43.320 --> 01:26:49.320]  Because, you know, there is no power of attorney that was filed with that document.
[01:26:49.320 --> 01:26:57.320]  There's no power of attorney that is filed in any court or any county recorders office that's relating to that.
[01:26:57.320 --> 01:27:01.320]  There might be one, but there's none filed in a county recorders office.
[01:27:01.320 --> 01:27:05.320]  And it would be a hard thing.
[01:27:05.320 --> 01:27:12.320]  It's kind of a stealth technique. You're going to a county judge who doesn't have a dog in the hunt.
[01:27:12.320 --> 01:27:19.320]  He doesn't care about the mortgage. He cares about the county records.
[01:27:19.320 --> 01:27:23.320]  And so the only thing you bring him is this was improperly filed.
[01:27:23.320 --> 01:27:25.320]  We're not saying...
[01:27:25.320 --> 01:27:31.320]  We're not saying they don't have standing. They just didn't follow your rules when they filed it.
[01:27:31.320 --> 01:27:37.320]  So remove it from the record. Notice them so that they can file it properly.
[01:27:37.320 --> 01:27:40.320]  That's easy enough.
[01:27:40.320 --> 01:27:42.320]  Okay.
[01:27:42.320 --> 01:27:45.320]  It moves the date back.
[01:27:45.320 --> 01:27:51.320]  In a case like yours where they've already foreclosed,
[01:27:51.320 --> 01:27:58.320]  based on improperly filed documents, the document may be in the record.
[01:27:58.320 --> 01:28:04.320]  But if it's improperly filed, the court cannot see it.
[01:28:04.320 --> 01:28:16.320]  Then you go back and reattach the foreclosure because they foreclosed based on documents that were not properly filed
[01:28:16.320 --> 01:28:21.320]  and could not properly be put before the court.
[01:28:21.320 --> 01:28:30.320]  Okay. How do I find a county judge that I direct this to?
[01:28:30.320 --> 01:28:32.320]  You don't...
[01:28:32.320 --> 01:28:37.320]  You don't get to pick the county judge. You just file it with the county clerk and say to the clerk...
[01:28:37.320 --> 01:28:39.320]  Oh, the county clerk.
[01:28:39.320 --> 01:28:45.320]  Yeah, I did a request for power of attorney for this person and they didn't produce it.
[01:28:45.320 --> 01:28:48.320]  So I have reason to believe they don't have power of attorney
[01:28:48.320 --> 01:28:51.320]  and they don't have evidence of power of attorney in the record.
[01:28:51.320 --> 01:28:55.320]  Therefore, this record is improperly filed.
[01:28:55.320 --> 01:29:01.320]  And in Texas, you would go to the county clerk and tell the clerk,
[01:29:01.320 --> 01:29:04.320]  you've got documents improperly filed in your record.
[01:29:04.320 --> 01:29:13.320]  You need to petition the county judge to notify the person who filed this.
[01:29:13.320 --> 01:29:16.320]  Move it from the record and notify them to file it properly.
[01:29:16.320 --> 01:29:21.320]  That's how it's done in Texas. It's probably similar in California.
[01:29:21.320 --> 01:29:26.320]  So the clerk is the one that cares about her records being accurate.
[01:29:26.320 --> 01:29:29.320]  She's got a dog in the hut.
[01:29:29.320 --> 01:29:35.320]  So when the clerk goes to the county judge, they're both on the same team.
[01:29:35.320 --> 01:29:37.320]  Yeah.
[01:29:37.320 --> 01:29:41.320]  You get a favorable hearing.
[01:29:41.320 --> 01:29:43.320]  So I can really try that.
[01:29:43.320 --> 01:29:46.320]  You're running me off the cuff again and you're going to file a hearing.
[01:29:46.320 --> 01:29:48.320]  Okay.
[01:29:48.320 --> 01:29:50.320]  Okay, hang on.
[01:29:50.320 --> 01:29:52.320]  And whenever I do that.
[01:29:52.320 --> 01:29:54.320]  We'll be right back.
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[01:33:45.320 --> 01:33:48.320]  Randy Kelsen, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio.
[01:33:48.320 --> 01:33:52.320]  And we're talking to Tina in California.
[01:33:52.320 --> 01:33:55.320]  Okay, Tina, do you have anything else for us today?
[01:33:55.320 --> 01:33:57.320]  Yes, I do.
[01:33:57.320 --> 01:34:06.320]  I filed in my appeal brief in my case against the attorney
[01:34:06.320 --> 01:34:12.320]  that lied to me and I found in the litigation privilege
[01:34:12.320 --> 01:34:16.320]  that although some of the things seem to apply that they said,
[01:34:16.320 --> 01:34:21.320]  it does say that the litigation privilege does not apply
[01:34:21.320 --> 01:34:24.320]  in the case of attorney deceit.
[01:34:24.320 --> 01:34:27.320]  And which really...
[01:34:27.320 --> 01:34:29.320]  Thank you.
[01:34:29.320 --> 01:34:35.320]  Yes, because, you know, if they have intentions of deceit,
[01:34:35.320 --> 01:34:42.320]  now it's not supposed to apply to attorneys or non-witnesses.
[01:34:42.320 --> 01:34:47.320]  An attorney cannot be a witness in the case of Trindy
[01:34:47.320 --> 01:34:51.320]  versus Pagliaro, attorneys cannot be witnesses.
[01:34:51.320 --> 01:34:54.320]  And also it says in the case of attorney deceit,
[01:34:54.320 --> 01:34:59.320]  well, they admit to their deceit by stating they have no
[01:34:59.320 --> 01:35:02.320]  intention of doing what they told me they would do,
[01:35:02.320 --> 01:35:04.320]  but then they claim that I knew that.
[01:35:04.320 --> 01:35:12.320]  And they give me magical powers of knowing what they are thinking.
[01:35:12.320 --> 01:35:17.320]  But I really like this part and I just found it so...
[01:35:17.320 --> 01:35:22.320]  I did not include it in my appeal brief, but when they reply to me, I will.
[01:35:22.320 --> 01:35:26.320]  So I have that going and I'm waiting for their response.
[01:35:26.320 --> 01:35:32.320]  Then I have the case going against the timeless charges,
[01:35:32.320 --> 01:35:35.320]  which was this confinement store.
[01:35:35.320 --> 01:35:42.320]  And I've just had to file the joint stipulation,
[01:35:42.320 --> 01:35:50.320]  pre-trial stipulation meant that was an unbelievable document to file.
[01:35:50.320 --> 01:35:57.320]  It took me hours and hours of work to follow the judge's rules of how to do it
[01:35:57.320 --> 01:36:03.320]  and because the plaintiffs had the burden of proof of proving what you're claiming.
[01:36:03.320 --> 01:36:10.320]  And the pre-trial stipulation supersedes the original claim that,
[01:36:10.320 --> 01:36:12.320]  you know, the plaintiff's file.
[01:36:12.320 --> 01:36:21.320]  And so I worked really hard on it and tried to get the other side to do their joint part
[01:36:21.320 --> 01:36:23.320]  and they refused to answer me.
[01:36:23.320 --> 01:36:29.320]  So I sent it to them because I had to, you know, four o'clock seven days before to send it to them.
[01:36:29.320 --> 01:36:35.320]  And I didn't quite get it completed as well as I wanted to, but I sent it anyway.
[01:36:35.320 --> 01:36:41.320]  And then three hours later I sent them a corrected version with the typos and a few other corrections
[01:36:41.320 --> 01:36:43.320]  just so they couldn't say they didn't get it.
[01:36:43.320 --> 01:36:45.320]  Still not heard a thing.
[01:36:45.320 --> 01:36:54.320]  But in the meantime, one of our parties had a little help, you know,
[01:36:54.320 --> 01:37:01.320]  they found something about, you know, this company and they told me about this website,
[01:37:01.320 --> 01:37:05.320]  which I found was really interesting.
[01:37:05.320 --> 01:37:15.320]  The person was an attorney that was really, you know, very good.
[01:37:15.320 --> 01:37:22.320]  And it was, I'm trying to find the website that they had.
[01:37:22.320 --> 01:37:30.320]  And she was unbelievably helpful in, you know, giving me a few tips,
[01:37:30.320 --> 01:37:34.320]  although it was a little late for me to do it on time,
[01:37:34.320 --> 01:37:38.320]  I figured if I get, I'm taking the pages out of Wender's book,
[01:37:38.320 --> 01:37:42.320]  even if it's not correct, file it on time because you can always correct it.
[01:37:42.320 --> 01:37:47.320]  And that's what I've done a few times like I did with the brief.
[01:37:47.320 --> 01:37:49.320]  I didn't quite get it correct, but I filed it.
[01:37:49.320 --> 01:37:51.320]  They asked me to correct it.
[01:37:51.320 --> 01:37:52.320]  I filed again.
[01:37:52.320 --> 01:37:58.320]  And then they told me that, oh, well, you've got to do all these paginations and these bookmarks
[01:37:58.320 --> 01:38:00.320]  and this if you file it electronically.
[01:38:00.320 --> 01:38:04.320]  I said, you're talking to someone who's 50, 60 years old
[01:38:04.320 --> 01:38:07.320]  and I don't have a clue how to start that.
[01:38:07.320 --> 01:38:11.320]  She said, well, you know, if you file it electronically, you have to do that.
[01:38:11.320 --> 01:38:14.320]  And I said, okay, that'll take me a couple of weeks.
[01:38:14.320 --> 01:38:18.320]  And she said, well, you know, if you mail it in, you don't have to do that.
[01:38:18.320 --> 01:38:21.320]  I said, oh, that's really good information.
[01:38:21.320 --> 01:38:24.320]  Thank you, Ms. Glick of the Court.
[01:38:24.320 --> 01:38:26.320]  I will mail it in.
[01:38:26.320 --> 01:38:28.320]  So that's what I did.
[01:38:28.320 --> 01:38:31.320]  And I got it in even, you know, a few days late.
[01:38:31.320 --> 01:38:37.320]  But then with this next one, sending it to the other party, I thought, well, I'll do the same thing.
[01:38:37.320 --> 01:38:40.320]  I'll get it in on time and then I'll correct it.
[01:38:40.320 --> 01:38:46.320]  But this lawyer that helped me was really, really wonderful.
[01:38:46.320 --> 01:38:49.320]  And it will help people in California.
[01:38:49.320 --> 01:38:54.320]  It's called pro-per-legal.com.
[01:38:54.320 --> 01:39:00.320]  And it says lawyer-assistant assistance without the fees and attitude.
[01:39:00.320 --> 01:39:02.320]  And it certainly does not have attitude.
[01:39:02.320 --> 01:39:04.320]  She's right there.
[01:39:04.320 --> 01:39:08.320]  It says obtaining quality legal assistance on a budget is difficult.
[01:39:08.320 --> 01:39:12.320]  Pro-per-legal was developed for justice purpose.
[01:39:12.320 --> 01:39:18.320]  We are California bar license attorneys providing limited scope representation.
[01:39:18.320 --> 01:39:23.320]  We prepare your legal documents and help guide you through your legal matter.
[01:39:23.320 --> 01:39:29.320]  It allows us to assist you without the hassles and costs of being your court attorney.
[01:39:29.320 --> 01:39:33.320]  Now, they don't do federal stuff, but she made an exception in my case,
[01:39:33.320 --> 01:39:37.320]  because this other person, you know, for loads and something,
[01:39:37.320 --> 01:39:41.320]  and she helped us with this adversary type thing,
[01:39:41.320 --> 01:39:49.320]  just in trying to make sure I made the correct claims to prove what we were doing.
[01:39:49.320 --> 01:39:55.320]  But I found her attitude was definitely without attitude.
[01:39:55.320 --> 01:39:57.320]  It was really helpful.
[01:39:57.320 --> 01:40:07.320]  And if someone else in California needs the help to get something written correctly
[01:40:07.320 --> 01:40:13.320]  with a little legal help on a flat fee, which is what they do,
[01:40:13.320 --> 01:40:17.320]  this might be helpful to them.
[01:40:17.320 --> 01:40:19.320]  Good. Wonderful.
[01:40:19.320 --> 01:40:21.320]  Can you email information on that to me?
[01:40:21.320 --> 01:40:23.320]  So if anybody wants it, they can contact me now.
[01:40:23.320 --> 01:40:25.320]  I can send it to them.
[01:40:25.320 --> 01:40:27.320]  Yes, and then I'm waiting.
[01:40:27.320 --> 01:40:29.320]  We have our pre-trial conference on March the 8th.
[01:40:29.320 --> 01:40:33.320]  We're going to trial on March the 15th on this case.
[01:40:33.320 --> 01:40:37.320]  And we just found out the same day as I sent this to her,
[01:40:37.320 --> 01:40:43.320]  she lost her motion to dismiss the criminal case.
[01:40:43.320 --> 01:40:47.320]  Oh, the woman that you...
[01:40:47.320 --> 01:40:51.320]  The woman that sold all your stuff and didn't pay you?
[01:40:51.320 --> 01:40:55.320]  My stuff and didn't pay me and 70 plus other people.
[01:40:55.320 --> 01:40:59.320]  Yes. She's claimed to our judge in the civil case
[01:40:59.320 --> 01:41:04.320]  that her attorney had filed a 500-page motion to dismiss
[01:41:04.320 --> 01:41:07.320]  and she was going to clear her good name.
[01:41:07.320 --> 01:41:09.320]  Well, she doesn't have a good name.
[01:41:09.320 --> 01:41:14.320]  She said it's a 13-page motion, which I clicked in this response
[01:41:14.320 --> 01:41:18.320]  to her, another 500-page motion, so it just shows she exaggerates
[01:41:18.320 --> 01:41:21.320]  and it was denied on February the 1st.
[01:41:21.320 --> 01:41:28.320]  So this is really good news to us going into the civil trial.
[01:41:28.320 --> 01:41:30.320]  Okay. Tina, I need to go.
[01:41:30.320 --> 01:41:33.320]  I've got Dr. Joe. I wanted to give him an hour
[01:41:33.320 --> 01:41:35.320]  and I'm running out of time for him.
[01:41:35.320 --> 01:41:38.320]  Okay. I'll talk to you later.
[01:41:38.320 --> 01:41:42.320]  Thank you, Tina. Okay. Now we're going to Dr. Joe.
[01:41:42.320 --> 01:41:45.320]  Hello, Dr. Joe.
[01:41:45.320 --> 01:41:48.320]  Hey there, Randy. Nice to talk to you again.
[01:41:48.320 --> 01:41:50.320]  I'm sorry. I don't have more time.
[01:41:50.320 --> 01:41:53.320]  I wanted to give you a whole hour for this.
[01:41:53.320 --> 01:42:00.320]  Give us a synopsis of what happened to you in Victoria, Texas.
[01:42:00.320 --> 01:42:09.320]  Well, the mists of time have obscured my memory and the trauma.
[01:42:09.320 --> 01:42:14.320]  Basically, I was helping some people with stem cells.
[01:42:14.320 --> 01:42:18.320]  I was helping them with their health, getting fabulous results.
[01:42:18.320 --> 01:42:22.320]  We were operating inside of a private membership association
[01:42:22.320 --> 01:42:32.320]  and ultimately the authorities in Victoria arrested me
[01:42:32.320 --> 01:42:37.320]  and charged me with practicing medicine without a license.
[01:42:37.320 --> 01:42:41.320]  They had no injured party. They had no criminal complaint.
[01:42:41.320 --> 01:42:45.320]  They had no affidavit of a wrongdoing.
[01:42:45.320 --> 01:42:52.320]  And the police lied. The assistant district attorney lied.
[01:42:52.320 --> 01:42:58.320]  And I was railroaded and I spent eight months behind bars.
[01:42:58.320 --> 01:43:04.320]  It was appealed. I had it appealed and the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals
[01:43:04.320 --> 01:43:10.320]  said that the trial court never acquired subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:43:10.320 --> 01:43:17.320]  I had filed 14 motions challenging subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:43:17.320 --> 01:43:22.320]  The judge in the case, Judge Cheshire, kept all of the documents
[01:43:22.320 --> 01:43:26.320]  and then we had a hearing and he just simply went through them and said,
[01:43:26.320 --> 01:43:34.320]  denied, denied, denied, denied, denied, denied, denied, denied, denied.
[01:43:34.320 --> 01:43:40.320]  And then he altered the indictment by writing in some names on it.
[01:43:40.320 --> 01:43:42.320]  And I said, you can't do that.
[01:43:42.320 --> 01:43:46.320]  He said, watch me. Those words are exact words.
[01:43:46.320 --> 01:43:48.320]  Standing two feet away away.
[01:43:48.320 --> 01:43:50.320]  Hang on, Dr. Joe.
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[01:46:28.320 --> 01:46:57.320]  The People Curve Down From The Hill
[01:46:57.320 --> 01:47:11.320]  Okay, we are back.
[01:47:11.320 --> 01:47:17.320]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio, and we're talking to Dr. Joe.
[01:47:17.320 --> 01:47:27.320]  And you were at the point that charged you with the illegal practice of methods.
[01:47:27.320 --> 01:47:31.320]  Your final subject matter jurisdiction challenge is judged as just an item all out of hand.
[01:47:31.320 --> 01:47:36.320]  Then the Court of Criminal Appeals threw everything out.
[01:47:36.320 --> 01:47:41.320]  But in the process, the darn near killer...
[01:47:41.320 --> 01:47:51.320]  It was absolutely shocking to see the contempt and disdain that the people in the police,
[01:47:51.320 --> 01:47:59.320]  the judiciary, the district attorney, I mean, they had absolutely no respect of any kind whatsoever
[01:47:59.320 --> 01:48:05.320]  for the laws that they were attempting or theoretically attempting to enforce.
[01:48:05.320 --> 01:48:13.320]  They had nothing but the most outrageous disdain and contempt for the citizens.
[01:48:13.320 --> 01:48:21.320]  And if you ask any psychologist, they will tell you that a relationship, as soon as the contempt enters into a relationship,
[01:48:21.320 --> 01:48:26.320]  that relationship is damaged irreparably, can't be fixed.
[01:48:26.320 --> 01:48:32.320]  We have a situation in America where you ask the average person if they can get justice from a court,
[01:48:32.320 --> 01:48:36.320]  and they'll tell you absolutely, absolutely not.
[01:48:36.320 --> 01:48:44.320]  Every person I speak of when I talk to the average American about the courts, the law, the justice,
[01:48:44.320 --> 01:48:51.320]  they have absolutely no faith, confidence, or belief whatsoever that they will get justice
[01:48:51.320 --> 01:48:56.320]  or even fair treatment from the courts, from the police.
[01:48:56.320 --> 01:49:02.320]  And we had six police just murder a black man by beating him to death.
[01:49:02.320 --> 01:49:08.320]  And I didn't receive a treatment that was fundamentally any different.
[01:49:08.320 --> 01:49:09.320]  They didn't beat me.
[01:49:09.320 --> 01:49:18.320]  But the violations, the lack of due process, the absolute criminality of the judges,
[01:49:18.320 --> 01:49:26.320]  four judges, they seized my property, four judges split the proceeds between their courts.
[01:49:26.320 --> 01:49:28.320]  They had no reason to do that.
[01:49:28.320 --> 01:49:34.320]  They brought it to me, and I looked at it, you know, and I did a show,
[01:49:34.320 --> 01:49:37.320]  and they told me, you won't believe how horrible this is.
[01:49:37.320 --> 01:49:40.320]  And I said, yeah, I'll get this all the time.
[01:49:40.320 --> 01:49:43.320]  But this one was worse.
[01:49:43.320 --> 01:49:46.320]  This was the worst I've ever seen.
[01:49:46.320 --> 01:49:50.320]  And I look at it wondering what is going on?
[01:49:50.320 --> 01:49:56.320]  Why are they acting with such vitri-pute?
[01:49:56.320 --> 01:49:58.320]  And then I looked at the case.
[01:49:58.320 --> 01:50:04.320]  This was a case they charged him with a third degree felony.
[01:50:04.320 --> 01:50:10.320]  But the charge was false because the only thing they could charge him with was misdemeanor.
[01:50:10.320 --> 01:50:15.320]  But there were four district judges in Victoria County.
[01:50:15.320 --> 01:50:20.320]  And each one of those district judges was involved in his case.
[01:50:20.320 --> 01:50:25.320]  And I looked at that, and what in the world is going on?
[01:50:25.320 --> 01:50:33.320]  Well, they had seized on the order of $100,000 for its property from Dr. Joe.
[01:50:33.320 --> 01:50:39.320]  Seized his airplane, they seized some gold, silver coins, other stuff.
[01:50:39.320 --> 01:50:48.320]  Part of this loot was being handled by different courts, all of them had part of it.
[01:50:48.320 --> 01:50:58.320]  Under the asset for future laws, if the court sees his assets and liquidates the,
[01:50:58.320 --> 01:51:03.320]  or able to liquidate the assets, if you fight the liquidation,
[01:51:03.320 --> 01:51:10.320]  the court itself, if they win the case and are able to liquidate the assets,
[01:51:10.320 --> 01:51:15.320]  they keep 100% of the proceeds. It goes into the court's budget.
[01:51:15.320 --> 01:51:22.320]  If you don't fight them, then 80% goes into their budget.
[01:51:22.320 --> 01:51:26.320]  This wasn't about committing any crime.
[01:51:26.320 --> 01:51:30.320]  This was an asset for future scam.
[01:51:30.320 --> 01:51:33.320]  They were just trying to steal his assets.
[01:51:33.320 --> 01:51:36.320]  I went down there recently.
[01:51:36.320 --> 01:51:40.320]  I've looked in the records, I've done some other research in the records,
[01:51:40.320 --> 01:51:43.320]  but this time I wanted to look at asset for future.
[01:51:43.320 --> 01:51:50.320]  And I talked to the clerk, and they have a file of a special set of cases
[01:51:50.320 --> 01:51:54.320]  that are filed with the court in asset for future matters.
[01:51:54.320 --> 01:52:02.320]  They're all in-reactions. In-reactions is an action against property and not against a person.
[01:52:02.320 --> 01:52:12.320]  Well, I got a list starting January 1st of last year, and it went for a month or so.
[01:52:12.320 --> 01:52:16.320]  The first one, the guy was arrested.
[01:52:16.320 --> 01:52:23.320]  They seized some $30,000 worth of cash.
[01:52:23.320 --> 01:52:30.320]  It was a gambling joint, and they seized $30,000 worth of cash.
[01:52:30.320 --> 01:52:35.320]  They dropped the charges against him, and he forfeited all the cash.
[01:52:35.320 --> 01:52:38.320]  That was the only one that got charged.
[01:52:38.320 --> 01:52:44.320]  The next one, they seized $79,000 in cash.
[01:52:44.320 --> 01:52:54.320]  There was never a charge filed against the guy, and he let them keep the cash.
[01:52:54.320 --> 01:52:58.320]  And there was one after the other, after the other, after the other.
[01:52:58.320 --> 01:53:04.320]  Everybody had the case dismissed, the court kept the money,
[01:53:04.320 --> 01:53:10.320]  or there never was charges filed, the court kept the money.
[01:53:10.320 --> 01:53:18.320]  So, I'm a drug dealer in Victoria County, and I'm doing a couple million bucks a month.
[01:53:18.320 --> 01:53:22.320]  And every once in a while, I'll tell one of the informants that says,
[01:53:22.320 --> 01:53:26.320]  send them over to this place right here. They'll find a big stash of money.
[01:53:26.320 --> 01:53:33.320]  So, they go to this place, and they raid the place, and they find $79,000 in cash.
[01:53:33.320 --> 01:53:43.320]  They put that in their funds, and they sue, do an interim suit to seize the money to liquidate the money.
[01:53:43.320 --> 01:53:49.320]  The guy doesn't object to it, so they leave him alone.
[01:53:49.320 --> 01:53:53.320]  And another six months, they do it again.
[01:53:53.320 --> 01:54:00.320]  This is money laundering, and I suspect it's going on all over the country.
[01:54:00.320 --> 01:54:08.320]  But this was absolutely, in your face, outrageous.
[01:54:08.320 --> 01:54:12.320]  That's why they did this to Dr. Joe.
[01:54:12.320 --> 01:54:15.320]  They didn't care if he was innocent or guilty.
[01:54:15.320 --> 01:54:25.320]  What they didn't expect, and what surprised me, was the Court of Criminal Appeals threw everybody under the bus.
[01:54:25.320 --> 01:54:35.320]  They ruled that Dr. Joe filed a subject matter jurisdiction challenge, and the challenge was not properly heard.
[01:54:35.320 --> 01:54:38.320]  You filed 14 of them.
[01:54:38.320 --> 01:54:45.320]  They ruled that the charge they brought could only be a misdemeanor,
[01:54:45.320 --> 01:54:54.320]  and the only time you can seize assets is if someone's charged with a second degree felony, a first or second degree felony.
[01:54:54.320 --> 01:55:04.320]  And in the document, the prosecuting attorney filed to seize Dr. Joe's airplane,
[01:55:04.320 --> 01:55:10.320]  the document itself said he was charged with a third degree felony.
[01:55:10.320 --> 01:55:14.320]  You can't seize property based on a third degree felony.
[01:55:14.320 --> 01:55:17.320]  But they filed it with the Court anyway.
[01:55:17.320 --> 01:55:19.320]  It was absolutely bogus.
[01:55:19.320 --> 01:55:25.320]  By the four corners of the document, it was bogus.
[01:55:25.320 --> 01:55:31.320]  They didn't care. Everybody's in on the take.
[01:55:31.320 --> 01:55:34.320]  So I've been getting things set up.
[01:55:34.320 --> 01:55:40.320]  I sued a judge down there recently, and finally decided no more setting them up.
[01:55:40.320 --> 01:55:43.320]  We're going to prepare the suit and get it filed.
[01:55:43.320 --> 01:55:48.320]  But when I looked through the records, and I showed this to the clerk,
[01:55:48.320 --> 01:55:53.320]  the elected clerk, she, when I come down there, she generally comes in there.
[01:55:53.320 --> 01:55:58.320]  And the first time I couldn't find, I got the guy's name spelled wrong.
[01:55:58.320 --> 01:56:00.320]  I couldn't find a case against him.
[01:56:00.320 --> 01:56:04.320]  So he's got this asset forfeiture here, but I can't find a case against him.
[01:56:04.320 --> 01:56:07.320]  And she checked and I had spelled one wrong.
[01:56:07.320 --> 01:56:10.320]  I had two letters juxtaposed.
[01:56:10.320 --> 01:56:14.320]  So I come back with some more and she said, did you spell the names wrong?
[01:56:14.320 --> 01:56:19.320]  No, I didn't spell the names wrong on all of these.
[01:56:19.320 --> 01:56:29.320]  And she started looking through them and 79,000 in cash, 36,000 in cash, 50,000 in cash.
[01:56:29.320 --> 01:56:32.320]  No case ever filed.
[01:56:32.320 --> 01:56:36.320]  I said, that doesn't look good.
[01:56:36.320 --> 01:56:41.320]  And she looked up at me and she had a really strange look on her face.
[01:56:41.320 --> 01:56:47.320]  And she said, no, that does not look good.
[01:56:47.320 --> 01:56:57.320]  So when she did that, I thought, not better get Dr. Joe and we better get the heck out of town.
[01:56:57.320 --> 01:57:01.320]  So I'll give it enough time and we're going back down there,
[01:57:01.320 --> 01:57:06.320]  but I think I should go to the feds first.
[01:57:06.320 --> 01:57:13.320]  At least get noticed so I can call the feds in case I have a problem.
[01:57:13.320 --> 01:57:16.320]  Because this is the kind of thing that can really get you in trouble.
[01:57:16.320 --> 01:57:18.320]  These are bad guys.
[01:57:18.320 --> 01:57:27.320]  These are guys with absolutely no redeeming features.
[01:57:27.320 --> 01:57:30.320]  But we're going to take them on.
[01:57:30.320 --> 01:57:43.320]  The criminally insane have taken over the legal profession, the courts, the police, the prosecution, and the judiciary.
[01:57:43.320 --> 01:57:47.320]  It's unbelievable.
[01:57:47.320 --> 01:57:49.320]  And it's here now.
[01:57:49.320 --> 01:57:53.320]  The cruise ship said America will fall from within.
[01:57:53.320 --> 01:57:59.320]  Jefferson said America will not fall, but through the corruption of the judiciary.
[01:57:59.320 --> 01:58:02.320]  So that's where we're at.
[01:58:02.320 --> 01:58:09.320]  There used to be exactly what's happening and it's our job to fix it.
[01:58:09.320 --> 01:58:18.320]  So I'm hoping everybody else listening will do their job as well and take the information we try to give everybody
[01:58:18.320 --> 01:58:22.320]  and start taking these guys on and bring them back in line with law.
[01:58:22.320 --> 01:58:24.320]  Or see if we can't get them put in jail.
[01:58:24.320 --> 01:58:28.320]  Maybe they'll catch COVID two or three times in jail.
[01:58:28.320 --> 01:58:31.320]  And almost die like Dr. Joe did.
[01:58:31.320 --> 01:58:32.320]  Thank you all for listening.
[01:58:32.320 --> 01:58:42.320]  We'll be back next week on our regular two-hour show on Thursday and four-hour show on Friday.
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