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[00:00.000 --> 00:05.520] The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution.
[00:05.520 --> 00:09.560] They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[00:09.560 --> 00:11.040] Our liberty depends on it.
[00:11.040 --> 00:14.960] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember
[00:14.960 --> 00:17.080] your First Amendment rights.
[00:17.080 --> 00:18.680] Privacy is under attack.
[00:18.680 --> 00:22.280] When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[00:22.280 --> 00:27.040] And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[00:27.040 --> 00:32.120] So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
[00:32.120 --> 00:34.800] Privacy, it's worth hanging on to.
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[00:44.840 --> 00:47.920] Spar, it's what fighters do.
[00:47.920 --> 00:50.960] It's also how I remember the five guarantees of the First Amendment.
[00:50.960 --> 00:54.600] If you plan to take away my rights, I'm going to spar with you.
[00:54.600 --> 01:01.720] Spar with an extra P, S for speech, P for press, another P for petition, A for assembly,
[01:01.720 --> 01:03.080] and R for religion.
[01:03.080 --> 01:07.120] Most Americans are familiar with the First Amendment guarantees of free speech, press,
[01:07.120 --> 01:10.640] assembly, and religion, but petition for redress is another matter.
[01:10.640 --> 01:14.720] We have the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
[01:14.720 --> 01:18.240] It means that if we're unhappy with what's going on in our government, we can spell out
[01:18.240 --> 01:20.920] the reasons without fear of being thrown into jail.
[01:20.920 --> 01:31.240] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, more news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[01:31.240 --> 01:34.880] The Bill of Rights contains the first 10 amendments of our Constitution.
[01:34.880 --> 01:38.360] They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[01:38.360 --> 01:39.800] Our liberty depends on it.
[01:39.800 --> 01:43.720] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember
[01:43.720 --> 01:46.860] one of your constitutional rights.
[01:46.860 --> 01:48.440] Privacy is under attack.
[01:48.440 --> 01:52.080] When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[01:52.080 --> 01:56.840] And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[01:56.840 --> 02:01.960] So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
[02:01.960 --> 02:04.600] Privacy, it's worth hanging on to.
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[02:16.000 --> 02:20.360] When I think of the Second Amendment, I visualize myself wrapping my two arms around the Bill
[02:20.360 --> 02:22.440] of Rights in a big old bear hug.
[02:22.440 --> 02:26.920] It's how I remember that the Second Amendment guarantees us the right to bear arms, arms
[02:26.920 --> 02:30.760] that embrace our freedoms and won't let anyone take them away without a fight.
[02:30.760 --> 02:31.760] Get it?
[02:31.760 --> 02:34.080] Two arms, bear hug, bear arms?
[02:34.080 --> 02:37.680] The late Senator Hubert Humphrey captured the spirit of the Second Amendment so well
[02:37.680 --> 02:43.440] when he said, the right of the citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary
[02:43.440 --> 02:48.000] rights, one more safeguard against the tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which
[02:48.000 --> 02:50.720] historically has proved to always be possible.
[02:50.720 --> 02:52.600] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht.
[02:52.600 --> 03:16.200] More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[03:23.360 --> 03:50.360] the right of the citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary rights,
[03:50.360 --> 04:08.200] one more safeguard against the tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which
[04:08.200 --> 04:34.360] now appears remote in America, but which historically has proved to always be possible.
[04:34.360 --> 04:37.360] Oh, I'm in trouble.
[04:37.360 --> 04:41.880] It's the 8th of December, but Brett didn't tell me what year it was.
[04:41.880 --> 04:43.200] 2022.
[04:43.200 --> 04:45.240] Okay.
[04:45.240 --> 04:53.680] This Thursday, the 8th of December, 2022, rule of law radio, and I don't even have
[04:53.680 --> 04:55.640] my pages up, Brett.
[04:55.640 --> 05:05.000] I'm going to start with my trip to, my recent trip to Victoria County.
[05:05.000 --> 05:14.920] Just went down there, went down there Monday, and the first thing I did was went to the
[05:14.920 --> 05:23.560] district court with a set of criminal complaints against the county judge, the justice of the
[05:23.560 --> 05:33.320] peace, the sheriff, a couple of bailiffs, and various and sundry others, and took them
[05:33.320 --> 05:41.920] to a district judge who was having a trial, and he set a 15-minute recess, and I went
[05:41.920 --> 05:46.480] up to the bailiff and handed him these documents and told him to instruct the judge that I
[05:46.480 --> 05:51.000] had business with the court, and gave him these, and I gave him the documents, and he
[05:51.000 --> 05:52.000] took them to the judge.
[05:52.000 --> 05:56.200] Well, this is, they're in recess, so the court's not going on, but all these lawyers
[05:56.200 --> 06:02.760] are sitting in there, and I had studied this judge, and he was a real arrogant snot.
[06:02.760 --> 06:05.440] Can I say snot on the air?
[06:05.440 --> 06:07.840] Okay, I won't say it.
[06:07.840 --> 06:08.840] I won't say it.
[06:08.840 --> 06:10.280] Why don't you use it on a judge?
[06:10.280 --> 06:17.800] He was an arrogant booger, and I had been in his court once before, and he was pretty
[06:17.800 --> 06:26.560] out of hand, and so he looked at them, and he turned to me, and he said, what are these?
[06:26.560 --> 06:28.760] I said, these are criminal affidavits.
[06:28.760 --> 06:30.800] Well, what do you want me to do?
[06:30.800 --> 06:37.840] I want you to have this clerk over here swear me in and verify my signature on all these
[06:37.840 --> 06:43.240] documents, and then I want you to do what 15.09 commands you to do.
[06:43.240 --> 06:44.960] He looked at them, denied.
[06:44.960 --> 06:49.000] I turned to the bailiff, Mr. Bailiff, did you hear that?
[06:49.000 --> 06:51.200] Yes, Mr. Kelton, I did.
[06:51.200 --> 06:52.200] Arrest that judge.
[06:52.200 --> 06:54.200] Well, I can't arrest the judge.
[06:54.200 --> 06:55.200] Sure you can.
[06:55.200 --> 06:58.800] Just go up there and throw the cuffs on him, and we had a little back and forth, and the
[06:58.800 --> 07:00.920] judge sat there and kept his mouth shut.
[07:00.920 --> 07:03.480] Did that make him do his little chicken dance?
[07:03.480 --> 07:11.680] Yeah, he wasn't quite so arrogant after that, but he was pretty arrogant, and I was afraid
[07:11.680 --> 07:15.920] I was going to send him over the edge, so I didn't push the bailiff too much, and then
[07:15.920 --> 07:22.440] left and then went to the sheriff's department, gave the complaints to a sheriff's deputy.
[07:22.440 --> 07:27.480] Now, I had been in the sheriff's office earlier, I left up at the first part.
[07:27.480 --> 07:35.920] I went back to this Justice of the Peace that I sued, and after I sued him, I went down
[07:35.920 --> 07:43.920] and sent it in one of his morning hearings, and he was doing it wrong, so I filed a whole
[07:43.920 --> 07:45.120] bunch of criminal complaints.
[07:45.120 --> 07:49.000] I came back for a hearing, and I filed a whole bunch of criminal complaints against him and
[07:49.000 --> 07:51.520] the sheriff.
[07:51.520 --> 07:57.000] Those of you who've been listening to the program know I've been talking about the initial
[07:57.000 --> 08:02.280] arrest and how they do it all wrong, and how I'm trying to get it fixed.
[08:02.280 --> 08:07.160] Well, they arrest people and take them straight to jail, throw them in jail all night.
[08:07.160 --> 08:10.440] Then the next morning, they bring them before a magistrate, and the magistrate reads them
[08:10.440 --> 08:16.600] the rights, tells them what the charges are, and sets bail.
[08:16.600 --> 08:23.960] Well, I raised an issue about that with criminal complaints against the judge, and went to
[08:23.960 --> 08:29.720] the district clerk and asked the district clerk to see some files, and I looked at them,
[08:29.720 --> 08:39.840] and I didn't find the records in there that Article 17.30 commands the magistrate to send
[08:39.840 --> 08:42.120] to the clerk.
[08:42.120 --> 08:50.120] After an examining trial, the magistrate is commanded by 17.30 to seal all documents had
[08:50.120 --> 08:58.480] in the hearing, statements of witnesses, the complaint, and all other documents shall be
[08:58.480 --> 09:05.040] sealed up in an envelope with the name of the judge written across the seal of the envelope
[09:05.040 --> 09:07.840] and forwarded to the clerk of the court of jurisdiction.
[09:07.840 --> 09:17.320] Well, what happened in this hearing was I talked to the clerks, and the jail sent documents
[09:17.320 --> 09:22.600] over to the magistrate, who's now right next door.
[09:22.600 --> 09:32.120] The magistrate held these hearings, and then he gives the documents back to the jail.
[09:32.120 --> 09:35.960] He doesn't seal them in an envelope for the clerk of the court of jurisdiction.
[09:35.960 --> 09:45.480] So I charged the justice of the peace and the sheriff with criminal conspiracy to tamper
[09:45.480 --> 09:49.120] with the government document.
[09:49.120 --> 09:57.040] And RICO, or the 7102, the organized crime statute for Texas, they used to call it street
[09:57.040 --> 10:01.520] gang, but now it's labeled organized crime, in charge of the organized crime because they're
[10:01.520 --> 10:06.760] doing this on a regular basis to everybody, and filed out with a trial judge where I had
[10:06.760 --> 10:13.520] sued the county judge in his personal capacity, and before the hearing started, I filed these
[10:13.520 --> 10:16.440] complaints with the trial judge.
[10:16.440 --> 10:25.920] And it somehow didn't dawn on the trial judge that the reason I was suing the justice of
[10:25.920 --> 10:30.740] the peace was that he wouldn't act on criminal complaints I gave him.
[10:30.740 --> 10:35.000] So I gave this guy criminal complaints, and he does the same thing.
[10:35.000 --> 10:38.600] So I asked the bailiff to arrest him, and of course the bailiff refused and got the
[10:38.600 --> 10:39.600] bailiff's name.
[10:39.600 --> 10:40.600] His name is Green.
[10:40.600 --> 10:47.200] So I'll be suing this judge, the bailiff, and everybody else again.
[10:47.200 --> 10:53.660] So I went to watch the hearing, and they're still doing the same thing.
[10:53.660 --> 10:59.040] And then I went to this district judge and dropped these criminal complaints on him.
[10:59.040 --> 11:04.160] I wanted to make sure they were still doing the same process before I moved ahead.
[11:04.160 --> 11:12.720] So I dropped the criminal complaints on him, and the district judge refused to act.
[11:12.720 --> 11:15.600] Surprise, surprise.
[11:15.600 --> 11:17.280] Denied my criminal complaints.
[11:17.280 --> 11:19.280] Well, that's interesting.
[11:19.280 --> 11:20.280] How does that work?
[11:20.280 --> 11:21.280] He's just so used to saying denied.
[11:21.280 --> 11:25.560] It kind of doesn't matter what you put in front of it.
[11:25.560 --> 11:27.800] Yeah, it seems that way.
[11:27.800 --> 11:29.600] And he was really arrogant.
[11:29.600 --> 11:32.080] The first time I was in there, I just went and sat in to watch.
[11:32.080 --> 11:37.080] And he said, it's one of these cattle call hearings where they're bringing people in
[11:37.080 --> 11:41.400] in jail uniforms and doing the little song and dance, and he's sitting there smacking
[11:41.400 --> 11:44.960] gum like a high school kid.
[11:44.960 --> 11:51.600] And then they call a recess, and the bailiff didn't tell everybody to stand, but I stood
[11:51.600 --> 11:53.400] up anyway.
[11:53.400 --> 11:58.520] And he gets about to the door and screamed out at everybody.
[11:58.520 --> 12:02.400] And my bailiff says, rise, you rise.
[12:02.400 --> 12:04.520] I thought, what?
[12:04.520 --> 12:08.400] I didn't come down here to be screamed at by my public servants.
[12:08.400 --> 12:13.280] So I was a little annoyed at him to start with because of his attitude.
[12:13.280 --> 12:15.120] And I was sitting out there with Dr. Joe.
[12:15.120 --> 12:18.600] We calibrated him.
[12:18.600 --> 12:24.800] We used some of the NLP techniques to try to get a good idea of what we expected him
[12:24.800 --> 12:25.800] to do.
[12:25.800 --> 12:35.560] And he was dead on, absolutely totally oblivious to anything but his ego, didn't care what
[12:35.560 --> 12:42.560] was before him, had no consideration for the public whatsoever.
[12:42.560 --> 12:47.160] And I want to see if I can help him out with that.
[12:47.160 --> 12:49.320] So I did the standard thing.
[12:49.320 --> 12:51.560] I didn't give him fair warning.
[12:51.560 --> 12:57.000] He asked me what I wanted him to do, and I told him precisely what I wanted him to do
[12:57.000 --> 13:00.080] with no extras, no elaboration.
[13:00.080 --> 13:05.080] I want you to do exactly what 15.09 commands you to do.
[13:05.080 --> 13:08.000] I didn't tell him what 15.09 commands him to do.
[13:08.000 --> 13:10.440] I expect him to already know that.
[13:10.440 --> 13:11.440] He doesn't know.
[13:11.440 --> 13:14.400] You know he doesn't know.
[13:14.400 --> 13:20.400] I bet he knows by now because when I walked out of there, I went across the street to
[13:20.400 --> 13:29.640] the jail and filed these complaints against, filed against the district judge with the
[13:29.640 --> 13:31.440] service department.
[13:31.440 --> 13:35.920] And this deputy said, well, Mr. Kelton, he went in the back for a while and he came back
[13:35.920 --> 13:41.080] out and he said, well, Mr. Kelton, would you mind giving me a statement?
[13:41.080 --> 13:43.360] I wouldn't mind at all.
[13:43.360 --> 13:48.080] So he brought us in this room and we sat down and I said, you know, I was thinking a little
[13:48.080 --> 13:55.360] better of it, so I said, well, I'll be glad to give you a statement, but I want it recorded.
[13:55.360 --> 13:59.000] And he was kind of taken aback by that.
[13:59.000 --> 14:00.800] But he said, okay.
[14:00.800 --> 14:04.000] And it took him about 30 minutes to get it arranged and come in with this special little
[14:04.000 --> 14:06.120] camera he set up there.
[14:06.120 --> 14:12.120] And I dictated the whole process to him.
[14:12.120 --> 14:21.480] What I was doing, walked through the codes commanding magistrates and police officers
[14:21.480 --> 14:22.480] making arrests.
[14:22.480 --> 14:27.160] I walked through the codes in detail.
[14:27.160 --> 14:30.920] Like from the part about the arresting officer and their responsibility to take somebody
[14:30.920 --> 14:33.480] to a magistrate for an exam, you know, all that.
[14:33.480 --> 14:39.400] And how if they didn't, first degree felony aggravated assault and how the courts ruled
[14:39.400 --> 14:45.520] that you didn't have a right to an examining trial in a misdemeanor case, and I'm assured
[14:45.520 --> 14:51.720] them you don't have a right to an examining trial in any case, that you don't have a right
[14:51.720 --> 14:52.720] to be arrested.
[14:52.720 --> 14:55.280] You don't have a right to be thrown in jail.
[14:55.280 --> 14:58.320] That's all procedural due process.
[14:58.320 --> 15:08.000] An examining trial is commanded under 1406 to 10 to 11, it's commanded to be held under
[15:08.000 --> 15:12.720] chapter 16, and I walked back and forth through the codes and stitched them together.
[15:12.720 --> 15:18.240] I even stitched together the part about 20A.304.
[15:18.240 --> 15:21.080] That goes to grand juries.
[15:21.080 --> 15:27.640] After the grand jury has met, they shall come before the court with a quorum of the grand
[15:27.640 --> 15:33.680] jury present and read the facts of the true bill to the court.
[15:33.680 --> 15:39.920] They say the fact of the indictment to the court, but I'm arguing with that, that it's
[15:39.920 --> 15:42.680] not an indictment yet.
[15:42.680 --> 15:46.160] It's merely a true bill.
[15:46.160 --> 15:56.360] And if the person is not on bail or in custody, then the clerk shall not make notes in the
[15:56.360 --> 15:59.080] minutes of the court.
[15:59.080 --> 16:06.000] Notes in the minutes of the court gives the court legal notice that a true bill has been
[16:06.000 --> 16:08.920] found by a grand jury.
[16:08.920 --> 16:13.920] They're forbidden to do that if the person's not on bail or in custody.
[16:13.920 --> 16:20.280] So the clerk is ordered to issue a capious, and once the person has been arrested, then
[16:20.280 --> 16:23.800] she can make notes in the minutes of the court.
[16:23.800 --> 16:26.320] Then the indictment becomes public.
[16:26.320 --> 16:30.000] The true bill actually becomes an indictment.
[16:30.000 --> 16:35.520] But the presumption must be that when the person is arrested, they are taken directly
[16:35.520 --> 16:41.040] to the nearest magistrate, and the magistrate is told to examine and try.
[16:41.040 --> 16:44.800] So the pieces fit together as the only way any of this works.
[16:44.800 --> 16:47.800] Yeah, and I went through that in excruciating detail.
[16:47.800 --> 16:50.480] I'll finish this off when I get back.
[16:50.480 --> 16:54.720] Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Wheel of Horror Radio, the plot thickens.
[16:54.720 --> 17:00.440] We'll be right back.
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[19:15.600 --> 19:32.280] Look once again, who reacts with Christians, who know what they're hiding?
[19:32.280 --> 19:34.280] Don't have answer.
[19:34.280 --> 19:38.280] Open up eyes, don't react with Christians.
[19:38.280 --> 19:43.440] Look once again, and they don't have an answer.
[19:43.440 --> 20:13.200] Okay, we are back, we're in DeKalb, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio, and we are
[20:13.200 --> 20:18.900] talking about my little excursion to Victoria County. I, you know, there's a
[20:18.900 --> 20:23.560] lot of guys out there giving people instruction as to things they should do
[20:23.560 --> 20:30.880] and a lot of them are these patriot mythologists. I'm going to suggest that if
[20:30.880 --> 20:36.960] someone is not doing what they're telling you to do, don't pay a whole lot
[20:36.960 --> 20:45.800] of attention to them. So in that regard, before I tell you to do something, I will
[20:45.800 --> 20:52.080] have done that and Brett's the same way. Brett comes on and tells you what to do
[20:52.080 --> 20:57.240] by telling you what he's been doing. Generally, those people you can have
[20:57.240 --> 21:05.280] trust in. So in that vein, I have turned on the phone line, so if you have a
[21:05.280 --> 21:09.120] question or comment, give us a call. I'll be finished up here shortly. But when we
[21:09.120 --> 21:16.920] were going out, I said the plot thickens. After leaving the judge's courtroom, I
[21:16.920 --> 21:21.480] went down to the guys at the metal detector and I said, you guys look like
[21:21.480 --> 21:26.640] you're pretty bored just standing around here doing nothing all day. I got
[21:26.640 --> 21:30.520] something for you. I said, see all these documents here, they're criminal
[21:30.520 --> 21:35.080] complaints that I just presented to the district judge and he refused to perform
[21:35.080 --> 21:40.560] his duty as prescribed by Article 15.09, Code of Criminal Procedure. I want you
[21:40.560 --> 21:48.840] guys to go in there and arrest him. Did they ever get to double-talking?
[21:48.840 --> 21:54.280] Come on, guys. Are you bored? I'm not bored. Nope. Come on, come on, come on, come on. Take your
[21:54.280 --> 21:59.240] chicken suit off. This one guy said, well, we can't arrest him because we didn't
[21:59.240 --> 22:04.400] personally see or hear the defense being committed. Yeah. He said, under the
[22:04.400 --> 22:09.680] Code of Criminal Procedure. I said, which one? The Code of Criminal Procedure. No,
[22:09.680 --> 22:17.180] no, no. I mean, which code? Under 2.13, you're commanded to give notice to some
[22:17.180 --> 22:23.360] magistrate of all crimes that you become knowledgeable of. I just told you that
[22:23.360 --> 22:29.880] judge committed about 15 acts of official misconduct. What magistrate are
[22:29.880 --> 22:40.040] you going to give notice to? Okay, guys. I was just joshing. So, I went up to the
[22:40.040 --> 22:45.560] district clerk's office. Well, actually, we went home. It was late. I come back the
[22:45.560 --> 22:51.600] next day and I go to the district clerk's office. Now, I'm working with Dr. Jo
[22:51.600 --> 22:58.360] and he's on the show on occasion. He comes in on the guest bridge pretty
[22:58.360 --> 23:02.960] regular. We're going to start doing some shows on medicine here pretty soon. But
[23:02.960 --> 23:08.480] this is his case. And when I was first introduced to the case, I looked at it
[23:08.480 --> 23:15.040] and they arrested him and confiscated over $100,000 worth of value, an
[23:15.040 --> 23:22.120] airplane, a $70,000 airplane, and gold, silver, coins, bank accounts. And when I
[23:22.120 --> 23:29.240] looked at the case, his assets, the asset forfeiture side of the assets, were
[23:29.240 --> 23:36.480] divvied up amongst all of the district judges in the county. And I looked at it
[23:36.480 --> 23:44.400] and said, what in the heck is that? So, that got my attention. One court had the
[23:44.400 --> 23:51.520] airplane, another had the gold and coins, and another had other assets they
[23:51.520 --> 23:57.160] had taken. They had the bank accounts and such. What the heck is going on
[23:57.160 --> 24:03.720] here? So, I got to looking at the practices and procedures for asset
[24:03.720 --> 24:10.200] forfeiture. And that has been extremely
[24:10.200 --> 24:17.480] controversial since it was first introduced. So, I went into the clerk and
[24:17.480 --> 24:24.080] told the clerk that I had a county that I think is doing some asset forfeiture
[24:24.080 --> 24:30.680] scam. But I don't know how to research it out. And before I go to that county, I
[24:30.680 --> 24:38.840] want to know the right questions to ask. So, what records are accumulated in the
[24:38.840 --> 24:45.600] courts when there is an asset forfeiture action? She said, oh, that's a special
[24:45.600 --> 24:53.720] case. They actually do an in rim action, a suit against the items,
[24:53.720 --> 25:00.600] whatever it is. I said, wonderful. Can you give me a list of those? And she printed
[25:00.600 --> 25:06.240] me out of a list of all of the asset forfeiture starting January 1st of this
[25:06.240 --> 25:16.520] year. So, I looked at the first one. It was, I think, $29,000. They
[25:16.520 --> 25:21.360] confiscated from a guy running a gambling, I guess one of these
[25:21.360 --> 25:29.840] pachinko machine or slot machine things. And they got $25,000 in cash, or
[25:29.840 --> 25:39.600] $29,000. And they filed a case against him. The asset forfeiture file didn't
[25:39.600 --> 25:45.280] really address the case. It had the charging document. It had a statement by
[25:45.280 --> 25:51.600] the officer who did the asset forfeiture. And he said that he found them, he
[25:51.600 --> 25:56.040] accused them of money laundering. And they searched the place and they found all
[25:56.040 --> 26:00.240] this stuff. So, I said, okay, there has to be a criminal prosecution associated
[26:00.240 --> 26:06.880] with that. So, I took the names and ran the names against the criminal database.
[26:06.880 --> 26:14.720] And in the first one, I found that there was a criminal prosecution, that the
[26:14.720 --> 26:23.880] court dropped the prosecution against him, but kept the assets. The next one,
[26:23.880 --> 26:30.680] there were three cases against a good guy. Three different sets of assets,
[26:30.680 --> 26:39.480] a $27,000 in cash, a Jaguar automobile, and a bunch of other various
[26:39.480 --> 26:46.280] incendiary stuff they took from his apartment. And a different judge had
[26:46.280 --> 26:53.160] each one of those, so there were three separate cases. I happened to recognize
[26:53.160 --> 26:58.000] this guy. I have a friend in Victoria County and he was renting out an
[26:58.000 --> 27:01.920] apartment and turns out he's renting it to this guy. And he called me to ask me
[27:01.920 --> 27:06.240] if I could help this guy. And when he told me the details of it, I told him,
[27:06.240 --> 27:15.760] Tim, be careful. Your client never tells you everything. Well, this was the guy.
[27:15.760 --> 27:19.960] They took his Jaguar and took a bunch of money and some other stuff, but I
[27:19.960 --> 27:27.160] couldn't find a criminal case against him. They kept the assets, but there was
[27:27.160 --> 27:31.600] no associated criminal action against him. Now, I found criminal actions
[27:31.600 --> 27:39.560] against him. He was kind of a naughty boy, but none within five years. The
[27:39.560 --> 27:49.120] next four, same way, one of them was $77,000. And there was no corresponding
[27:49.120 --> 27:54.520] criminal case. I went to the clerk and I said, I'm having trouble here.
[27:54.520 --> 27:57.680] Because the very first one, I had trouble finding it. It turned out I spelled
[27:57.680 --> 28:03.520] one wrong. And a woman came over and helped me out. And I told her, I really
[28:03.520 --> 28:08.520] hate that. Women always do that to us poor guys. Where is it? I've looked
[28:08.520 --> 28:13.960] everywhere. Yeah, they got a chuckle out of that. You have one problem. So they got a
[28:13.960 --> 28:18.120] big chuckle out of that. So I took this to the to the elected clerk. She was
[28:18.120 --> 28:22.960] working in an office in the room with everybody else. And I told her, I can't
[28:22.960 --> 28:28.600] find a criminal case associated with this case. But with this asset forfeiture, she
[28:28.600 --> 28:35.000] looked it up. She couldn't find one either. Then I brought her four more. And
[28:35.000 --> 28:45.040] she was getting a little excited. Not happy excited. I said, this doesn't look
[28:45.040 --> 28:53.280] good. And she said, No, it does not look good. And I finished that first page and
[28:53.280 --> 28:59.280] it was getting right on noon. And when I saw the concern on the district clerk's
[28:59.280 --> 29:08.640] face, I decided, bubba, it's time to get yourself out of Dodge. So I got out of
[29:08.640 --> 29:14.880] there, got Dr. Joe and we hit the road and got out of the county. There are
[29:14.880 --> 29:20.160] some things we take home. Yeah, I get people on my show every once while they
[29:20.160 --> 29:25.040] tell me what to do. And I think I've had three people that I've got them off the
[29:25.040 --> 29:31.560] air and said, man, don't do this. These people will kill you. This is serious
[29:31.560 --> 29:37.400] business. You won't be any good to us if they kill you out here. And this was that
[29:37.400 --> 29:43.040] kind of business. I said, I got to get out of here. We hit the road. I'll do the
[29:43.040 --> 29:48.600] rest of my research. There's a service I can sign up for. And I'll do it remotely.
[29:48.600 --> 29:52.480] But I'm not going back to that county for a while. Not until I get this resolved.
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[33:58.600 --> 34:26.720] Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio. And we're
[34:26.720 --> 34:33.320] going to our callers. We're going to, it looks like a first time caller. If you
[34:33.320 --> 34:45.840] are in the 330 area code, unmute you. Talk to us. Where is 330? Ohio. Oh,
[34:45.840 --> 34:54.480] already? First name? Celeste. Celeste. Celeste in Ohio. That sounds
[34:54.480 --> 35:01.760] familiar. Have you called in before? No, no, I never have. Oh, okay. What do you
[35:01.760 --> 35:13.560] have for us today? Well, I have a young graduate and applying for jobs and got a
[35:13.560 --> 35:22.960] good job offer. We are trying to, they require the jab. We applied for a
[35:22.960 --> 35:29.240] religious exemption. He applied for one, and it was a simple, like, one paragraph
[35:29.240 --> 35:36.480] of his beliefs, which we didn't state the mask outright, but, you know, around
[35:36.480 --> 35:42.840] about that, the mask, as well as testing as being unacceptable, according to his
[35:42.840 --> 35:56.240] beliefs. And they came back with the, a requirement of theirs, to wear a mask
[35:56.240 --> 36:02.640] at all times, to be tested three times a week, which was a hybrid situation. So
[36:02.640 --> 36:08.760] that would mean anytime you walked into the campus, you would be tested, required.
[36:08.760 --> 36:15.320] And then they have, like, a kitchen that he could not go in with other people,
[36:15.320 --> 36:19.240] could not go, could not use a kitchen there, and could not go in an elevator
[36:19.240 --> 36:31.880] with others. Okay, was, is, is this a private company? Yes. I can do that.
[36:31.880 --> 36:38.040] That's by contract. Now, if it's government agency, or if they receive state
[36:38.040 --> 36:45.720] or federal funds, that's a different issue. But if it's a private company, they
[36:45.720 --> 36:51.680] can pretty well do that. You can't force a company. So long as they apply these
[36:51.680 --> 36:58.080] conditions to everyone, and these conditions do not go to race or religion
[36:58.080 --> 37:08.520] or political affiliation, they can pretty well do that. Even though, so we, so we,
[37:08.520 --> 37:13.440] and this is very fascinating, and I just want your other listeners to maybe hear
[37:13.440 --> 37:24.960] this. So I asked them to tell them put it in writing, and they wouldn't. Well, the
[37:24.960 --> 37:28.440] problem is, is it's a private company. We don't have a written policy. We don't have a
[37:28.440 --> 37:35.400] written policy, right? And so, you know, basically, we told them, you know,
[37:35.400 --> 37:41.280] pointed out the illegality of it, you know. Let's talk about Ohio for a
[37:41.280 --> 37:47.360] moment. Is Ohio a right-to-work state? It is, but this was a job not actually in
[37:47.360 --> 37:54.200] Ohio, but Wisconsin. So is Wisconsin a right-to-work state? No, I don't even know.
[37:54.200 --> 38:00.000] I really don't know. Okay, the first, the first issue you have to address is, does
[38:00.000 --> 38:09.400] this company fall within any specific statutory scheme that would prevent it
[38:09.400 --> 38:19.720] from making these kinds of requirements? Well, I would think, one, under Title 21,
[38:19.720 --> 38:29.680] the U.S. 360 BBB, which is the Emergency Authorization Act, that both the masking
[38:29.680 --> 38:37.680] and the, any of the COVID testing is still under emergency authorization,
[38:37.680 --> 38:42.480] which means it's not licensed. That doesn't, that has nothing to do with a
[38:42.480 --> 38:54.560] private company. But how can they force a medical procedure on to, on to someone? I
[38:54.560 --> 39:00.960] mean, they can't, they're not forcing it. They're saying these are our conditions
[39:00.960 --> 39:05.800] of employment. If, if you don't like our conditions of employment, you don't have
[39:05.800 --> 39:13.560] to work here. That is your call. But if I have my own company, I don't want the
[39:13.560 --> 39:17.440] federal government or the state government telling me how to operate my
[39:17.440 --> 39:24.200] company. I'm the one that has all the investment and the time and money in this
[39:24.200 --> 39:29.680] company. Now I'm going to have the government coming in to me and saying,
[39:29.680 --> 39:36.520] this is what you have to do. If, if, if, if I'm a company and the government
[39:36.520 --> 39:43.480] forces me to do something, they can put me out of business. They don't care. So we
[39:43.480 --> 39:48.200] got to... So if I'm hearing you correctly, it would be, it would be a problem if they were doing
[39:48.200 --> 39:57.120] something like, that would be open to the public, sort of, they'd have to make
[39:57.120 --> 40:02.040] accommodations kind of thing, public, like say transportation, that would be kind of
[40:02.040 --> 40:05.760] the typical back to the bus, back of the bus kind of thing, which is what they're
[40:05.760 --> 40:14.920] doing. But because it's in a private corporation situation and it's not part
[40:14.920 --> 40:22.160] of the public accommodation realm, is that what I'm hearing? Yeah. I'm, I'm
[40:22.160 --> 40:27.760] looking through all of my bag of cricks and I can't find a way to get there.
[40:27.760 --> 40:32.360] Really? This is, you know, I'm calling because I want to know how to handle it.
[40:32.360 --> 40:37.200] But we ended up saying basically, you know, forget it because, you know, it's
[40:37.200 --> 40:44.040] highly discriminatory and, you know, it was ridiculous. And we, we, we, we, we
[40:44.040 --> 40:52.520] pointed out the law, you know, to them, right, about the, the Title 22. Okay. The problem,
[40:52.520 --> 40:59.680] the problem with pointing out the laws is, does this entity fall within the
[40:59.680 --> 41:06.720] statutory scheme? Well, I can't, okay, my brain doesn't comprehend this. It's like,
[41:06.720 --> 41:16.720] if it's federal law, how can a, like, within my home, okay, just kind of think
[41:16.720 --> 41:22.840] about this basically, if it's a violation to do something against federal law,
[41:22.840 --> 41:29.240] doesn't mean that in my four walls I could violate that. Okay. Federal law is a
[41:29.240 --> 41:36.720] very general term. If, if it is a act against Title 18 of the federal code,
[41:36.720 --> 41:44.760] Title 18 is the criminal code. And when we enter into the jurisdictional
[41:44.760 --> 41:51.920] boundaries of a jurisdiction, then we enter into an adhesion contracts track
[41:51.920 --> 41:58.000] that binds us to the criminal laws. The rest of them are something else
[41:58.000 --> 42:06.520] altogether. The federal rules and most of the stuff about COVID is contained in
[42:06.520 --> 42:12.080] the federal rules. The federal rules do not apply to you. It doesn't apply to the
[42:12.080 --> 42:22.120] states. Those apply to employees of the federal government or those in
[42:22.120 --> 42:27.160] contractual privity with the federal government wherein they have agreed to
[42:27.160 --> 42:34.960] a statutory scheme. For instance, when COVID began, all these governors issued
[42:34.960 --> 42:41.080] all of these executive orders. I filed a hundred and fifty page criminal
[42:41.080 --> 42:46.720] complaint against the governor of Texas for his orders because as far as I'm
[42:46.720 --> 42:54.240] concerned, he is the governor and he can only talk to employees of the executive
[42:54.240 --> 43:00.000] branch and he can take his executive orders and use them for toilet paper. I
[43:00.000 --> 43:05.760] charged him about 35 criminal complaints and charged him with, with sedition. And
[43:05.760 --> 43:11.880] the week they went before the grand jury in Texas, he rescinded all of them and 20
[43:11.880 --> 43:17.700] states filed suit. That's because the executive has nothing to say to you. The
[43:17.700 --> 43:23.280] president can't speak to you. You're his boss. He's not your boss. He could
[43:23.280 --> 43:31.800] exit. He can file these executive orders, but they don't apply to you. They apply
[43:31.800 --> 43:35.920] to federal employees or people in contractual privity with federal
[43:35.920 --> 43:40.760] government where they've agreed to abide by these rules. Like if you're a licensed
[43:40.760 --> 43:46.880] operator and the federal government has licensing, you agree to that licensing so
[43:46.880 --> 43:51.360] you fall under. The private citizens don't. I know this sounds a little
[43:51.360 --> 43:54.920] contradictory and complex. I'll explain it better on the other side. Randy Kelton,
[43:54.920 --> 43:58.560] Brett Fountain. We'll be right back.
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[46:44.680 --> 47:07.680] Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio and did we have a
[47:07.680 --> 47:20.680] lively break? And Deborah brought up an issue. If you had already been employed by
[47:20.680 --> 47:27.680] this company and the company arbitrarily and capriciously decided to change the
[47:27.680 --> 47:34.680] employment rules, that is a whole other issue. So if you're employed and COVID
[47:34.680 --> 47:38.680] comes along and they say, okay, everybody works for us has to do this, that or the
[47:38.680 --> 47:47.680] other. No, no, you can't do that unless you say you have to do this and in
[47:47.680 --> 47:54.680] return for your doing this, I will give you this benefit. If they simply say you
[47:54.680 --> 48:01.680] have to do something, that and if you receive no benefit from doing it, that is
[48:01.680 --> 48:07.680] in contract law called unconscionable, where only one side receives a benefit
[48:07.680 --> 48:10.680] and even if the other side is not receiving a benefit, the other side is
[48:10.680 --> 48:16.680] making the request or the demand, then you would have standing. It's not
[48:16.680 --> 48:22.680] discrimination because they're not singling anyone out, any group like, you
[48:22.680 --> 48:27.680] know, she was saying if you were blind and they wouldn't let you work for them
[48:27.680 --> 48:33.680] if you were blind. If blind, being able to see wasn't a requirement, then that
[48:33.680 --> 48:40.680] would not, that would, for the job, then that would be discrimination. But this
[48:40.680 --> 48:45.680] wasn't the case. They made these requirements applicable to everybody. Now
[48:45.680 --> 48:50.680] the question that I'm not sure exactly how to answer, Brett says that Wisconsin
[48:50.680 --> 48:57.680] is a right to work state. I don't know how that would affect this issue. Do you
[48:57.680 --> 49:03.680] have any idea, Brett? No, I don't. I just looked up which are the right to work
[49:03.680 --> 49:13.680] states. So that would, to me, that would be the place to look. I'm concerned, we
[49:13.680 --> 49:18.680] have to be careful what we ask for. There was a case that came down recently in
[49:18.680 --> 49:24.680] Texas, here in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, there was a big shopping mall, and they
[49:24.680 --> 49:29.680] wanted to extend the mall south to another main street. It would double the
[49:29.680 --> 49:33.680] footprint of the mall. But there's a housing development there. These people
[49:33.680 --> 49:39.680] lived there all their lives. They didn't want to move. So they fought it and took
[49:39.680 --> 49:46.680] it all the way up to Supreme Court. The state said that the state, a
[49:46.680 --> 49:52.680] municipality, if they can accrue more tax revenue from a property, they can
[49:52.680 --> 49:57.680] change the zoning and take the property by a minute domain. These people were
[49:57.680 --> 50:02.680] incensed by that. They took it all the way to the US Supreme. When the ruling
[50:02.680 --> 50:07.680] came down, all the patriots were railing in righteous indignation that they could
[50:07.680 --> 50:12.680] go in there and take these people's homes. Well, that wasn't the issue. What
[50:12.680 --> 50:20.680] the Supreme said is, under Texas law, they can do this. This is legal in Texas.
[50:20.680 --> 50:30.680] And you come to us to ask us to order Texas to do something that's outside the
[50:30.680 --> 50:36.680] restraints of their law. Yeah, they're federal. They can't speak to that. Yeah,
[50:36.680 --> 50:41.680] and we're not going to interfere with Texas law. That's why I told them, you
[50:41.680 --> 50:47.680] guys need to read that real careful and be careful what you ask for. When you
[50:47.680 --> 50:52.680] allow the federal government to start sticking their nose into private
[50:52.680 --> 50:59.680] businesses, then we start looking at Italy just before World War II. That's
[50:59.680 --> 51:05.680] called fascism. And that gets to be really bad news. And it approaches
[51:05.680 --> 51:12.680] communism. This country is great because people can build businesses and not have
[51:12.680 --> 51:17.680] them regulated out of business. Because the guys who hold the strings on
[51:17.680 --> 51:22.680] regulation are the big three. Just before this show, I was watching a program
[51:22.680 --> 51:27.680] about Tucker and his car that he built. He built this car that was so
[51:27.680 --> 51:36.680] revolutionary that the three major auto manufacturers put him out of business.
[51:36.680 --> 51:43.680] They can do that in this country. We don't like that. That borders on, what's
[51:43.680 --> 51:49.680] the term for that, Brett, where big company... You mean like antitrust?
[51:49.680 --> 51:53.680] Yeah, antitrust. That's exactly where it's going. That was antitrust. We have
[51:53.680 --> 51:59.680] laws against that. But it has to be really egregious. You can't mess with
[51:59.680 --> 52:05.680] people's business. And if we start saying, well, in this case we should, and
[52:05.680 --> 52:11.680] then there's another case we should, that makes me reluctant to start at the
[52:11.680 --> 52:18.680] beginning because he's not working for them. Am I making any sense here?
[52:18.680 --> 52:23.680] You are making sense. But I feel like they're acting like an arm of the
[52:23.680 --> 52:27.680] federal government. These private businesses are acting. And how do I know
[52:27.680 --> 52:32.680] what incentives they're getting? Wait a minute. What kind of company was it?
[52:32.680 --> 52:38.680] What is their reasoning for doing that? You know what I'm saying?
[52:38.680 --> 52:44.680] If it's my private company, I can do it because I want to. And I don't have to
[52:44.680 --> 52:52.680] reveal why I do that. Now, if it is a highly regulated business, like a bank
[52:52.680 --> 52:59.680] or an insurance company, they are subject to government oversight and regulation
[52:59.680 --> 53:03.680] and that would change everything.
[53:03.680 --> 53:11.680] Well, this one has to do with that company, although I want to know how we
[53:11.680 --> 53:19.680] approach this because unfortunately in certain industries you're going to find
[53:19.680 --> 53:27.680] a lot of these businesses requiring it, right? So information systems,
[53:27.680 --> 53:32.680] computers, a lot of the opportunities these companies unfortunately are
[53:32.680 --> 53:40.680] requiring it. So I'm trying to figure out a way that we can combat that.
[53:40.680 --> 53:49.680] I was just reading a post by Dr. Graves. He's the guy who created the
[53:49.680 --> 53:54.680] jurisdiction program. He was on the telegram site and he said,
[53:54.680 --> 54:01.680] we need to learn to look through the eyes of our adversary. And we really need
[54:01.680 --> 54:08.680] to do that. And that allows us to be careful what we ask for. Take yourself
[54:08.680 --> 54:12.680] and put yourself in the position of this company. I have all these people
[54:12.680 --> 54:19.680] working for me. What if I hire someone who has COVID and he comes to work
[54:19.680 --> 54:24.680] and spreads it through my company, two or three of my employees die?
[54:24.680 --> 54:31.680] My employees are not going to be happy campers. They're going to want to know
[54:31.680 --> 54:36.680] what was I thinking? There was a lot of pressure on the ex-governor of New
[54:36.680 --> 54:43.680] York when he took COVID patients and sent them to convalescent homes and
[54:43.680 --> 54:50.680] essentially wiped out the convalescent homes. I see the problem. If I'm the
[54:50.680 --> 54:56.680] owner of the business, see the problem I got? No, because that was one of the
[54:56.680 --> 55:02.680] things we pointed out. There is virtually no difference between a
[55:02.680 --> 55:12.680] vaccinated and unvaccinated person for COVID as testimony of Pfizer. They
[55:12.680 --> 55:20.680] never tested for transmission. Wait, that's a different issue. We can talk
[55:20.680 --> 55:28.680] about COVID. Just for the record, nobody's coming close to me with that
[55:28.680 --> 55:34.680] needle. Just for the record. This is kind of going to data or going to the
[55:34.680 --> 55:40.680] merits of whether or not it's a good idea to do that versus the first question
[55:40.680 --> 55:45.680] is do they have a right to do this in their own business? Let me ask you the
[55:45.680 --> 55:51.680] book. I've heard different things on telegram. Some people say, oh no, don't
[55:51.680 --> 55:55.680] go there. This again, this is not something already employed. This makes a
[55:55.680 --> 56:04.680] little bit sick here, right? The one thing I did learn off of
[56:04.680 --> 56:10.680] telegram, in fact it was on your mask, telegram site, was that someone seems to
[56:10.680 --> 56:15.680] know a little bit about something called an interactive process. If you
[56:15.680 --> 56:23.680] want, you would go for a religious accommodation, which they have to
[56:23.680 --> 56:29.680] grant, I believe, private or public. I mean, federal or private. Am I correct
[56:29.680 --> 56:39.680] there? You're saying you believe that somebody has to grant religious
[56:39.680 --> 56:47.680] exemption? An accommodation. I don't know. I've not heard of that. Have you,
[56:47.680 --> 56:59.680] Randy, that it's a requirement? For example, if I was Muslim and it was my
[56:59.680 --> 57:04.680] belief that I had to wear the hijab, I don't know what you call it, but the head
[57:04.680 --> 57:11.680] scarf, okay, and they didn't want me to wear that at work, I would need an
[57:11.680 --> 57:20.680] accommodation because that's my belief to wear this, right? So even if it's a
[57:20.680 --> 57:30.680] private company, they would still have to honor the state constitution, okay?
[57:30.680 --> 57:35.680] Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on. That's a presumption in law. I have a
[57:35.680 --> 57:40.680] rule, never make a proactive statement of law out of your own mouth. That sounds
[57:40.680 --> 57:45.680] like something that would be reasonable, but that's not always the case in law.
[57:45.680 --> 57:53.680] How are they required? When we're thinking about these, we need to think
[57:53.680 --> 57:59.680] about this not in terms of how we think things should or ought to be. We need to
[57:59.680 --> 58:05.680] learn to think about it in terms of how they are. I've just been going after some
[58:05.680 --> 58:10.680] public officials and I can't tell them how I think they should do things. I went
[58:10.680 --> 58:16.680] to this judge and asked him, gave him some complaints, and he asked me, well,
[58:16.680 --> 58:20.680] Mr. Felton, what do you want me to do? I want you to do exactly what the law
[58:20.680 --> 58:26.680] commands you to do because I can't ask you to do anything else. Just because
[58:26.680 --> 58:31.680] something seems right or rational or reasonable doesn't mean it's in law, and
[58:31.680 --> 58:36.680] here we're talking about what's in law, and so we have to be careful.
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[01:03:22.680 --> 01:03:47.680] Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rue de Blas Radio, and we're
[01:03:47.680 --> 01:03:53.680] talking to Celeste in Ohio and you asked about the EEOC when we were going out
[01:03:53.680 --> 01:04:05.680] and what I was trying to do is speak to a way of thinking carefully. The EEOC
[01:04:05.680 --> 01:04:15.680] only applies to companies that fall under the authority of the EEOC. So, first
[01:04:15.680 --> 01:04:24.680] question is, who does the EEOC apply to? And that's one of my things I hate is
[01:04:24.680 --> 01:04:31.680] acronyms. Equal Opportunity Employment Commission. To whom can they speak and
[01:04:31.680 --> 01:04:40.680] what can they say to them? That was a question for you Celeste. Oh, sorry, to
[01:04:40.680 --> 01:04:47.680] whom can they speak? Repeat that please. Sorry. To whom can they speak? Over whom
[01:04:47.680 --> 01:04:52.680] do they have authority? And under what circumstances do they have authority
[01:04:52.680 --> 01:04:59.680] over them? I really don't know that answer. I mean, I would say I don't know
[01:04:59.680 --> 01:05:08.680] that answer. That's why we have to be careful. As far as I understand, if a
[01:05:08.680 --> 01:05:15.680] company, even if it's a private company, violates a constitutional restriction
[01:05:15.680 --> 01:05:22.680] in terms of discrimination, there are certain things they cannot discriminate
[01:05:22.680 --> 01:05:30.680] against you for. I think they can discriminate against you for walking
[01:05:30.680 --> 01:05:35.680] around naked. I think they could do that. But they can't restrict you, they
[01:05:35.680 --> 01:05:43.680] can't discriminate against you for walking around black or yellow or red.
[01:05:43.680 --> 01:05:52.680] The law specifies what they cannot discriminate against you for. Can they
[01:05:52.680 --> 01:06:03.680] discriminate against you because you don't have a vaccine of any type? Not
[01:06:03.680 --> 01:06:12.680] just COVID, can any of them? I don't know. That's something we have to look
[01:06:12.680 --> 01:06:17.680] at. Before we can talk about whether or not this applies to the company you're
[01:06:17.680 --> 01:06:25.680] dealing with, we need to understand what we're trying to apply. Brett and I have
[01:06:25.680 --> 01:06:30.680] been doing this show a long time and we get people who bring us really
[01:06:30.680 --> 01:06:38.680] compelling and very logical arguments on issues. But we stand outside those
[01:06:38.680 --> 01:06:45.680] issues so we tend not to be emotionally involved in them. It's our job to look
[01:06:45.680 --> 01:06:52.680] at them kind of from the top and say, okay, if we allow this, what are likely
[01:06:52.680 --> 01:07:01.680] to be the ramifications? I'm looking at your issue and I'm thinking, if we
[01:07:01.680 --> 01:07:08.680] decide that companies cannot decide the parameters of the people they hire.
[01:07:08.680 --> 01:07:15.680] Now, we already have anti-discrimination laws that indicate the kinds of
[01:07:15.680 --> 01:07:22.680] distinctions you can make. But as far as I know, COVID's inoculations and
[01:07:22.680 --> 01:07:30.680] testing is not in there. Otherwise, I have the right to do this unless the
[01:07:30.680 --> 01:07:36.680] constitutions are supporting laws say I can't do this. That's something we don't
[01:07:36.680 --> 01:07:42.680] want to screw up so we have to be careful. Go ahead. Well, first of all, when
[01:07:42.680 --> 01:07:49.680] you say vaccination, I mean, then you're asking me to reveal my medical
[01:07:49.680 --> 01:07:55.680] information to you. Yeah. Now, there is drug testing for some jobs. You know,
[01:07:55.680 --> 01:08:01.680] they will ask for a drug test, right? Let's address that for a second. I'm
[01:08:01.680 --> 01:08:09.680] asking you to. I'm not requiring you to. I'm telling you that I need this
[01:08:09.680 --> 01:08:15.680] information. If you want to give it to me and it fits my criteria, then I'll
[01:08:15.680 --> 01:08:25.680] hire you. But if you don't want to give it to me, then I don't want to hire
[01:08:25.680 --> 01:08:31.680] you. That's my condition. What occurs to me with that, Randy, is that that could
[01:08:31.680 --> 01:08:36.680] be, let's say that they want a certain body mass index or a certain blood
[01:08:36.680 --> 01:08:41.680] sugar level and they say they don't want to hire you if you have some kind of
[01:08:41.680 --> 01:08:45.680] characteristics that normally you don't reveal to people. You don't talk about
[01:08:45.680 --> 01:08:50.680] your things. You don't even go measure those things and so they want to go and
[01:08:50.680 --> 01:08:55.680] get into your business in a place that normally you don't open up. But the
[01:08:55.680 --> 01:09:02.680] problem for you is you don't have to do that. But you don't have to work for me
[01:09:02.680 --> 01:09:11.680] either. Now, there are certain things that companies are restricted from
[01:09:11.680 --> 01:09:18.680] doing. They can't make this determination based on race, color, political
[01:09:18.680 --> 01:09:24.680] affiliation, or religion. Those are in law. You can't do those. You can do all
[01:09:24.680 --> 01:09:37.680] the rest. If we extend beyond the ones that are in law, we climb out onto a
[01:09:37.680 --> 01:09:47.680] very slippery slope. I want to know what you do in your bedroom before you come
[01:09:47.680 --> 01:09:55.680] to work for me. Now, we can't go there. How slippery do we want this slope? Or I
[01:09:55.680 --> 01:10:05.680] can't qualify you at all. You could come into my place with cholera and I would
[01:10:05.680 --> 01:10:14.680] have to hire you with cholera. Be careful what we ask for. Now, if it's a
[01:10:14.680 --> 01:10:22.680] government agency, that's different. If it's a highly regulated business,
[01:10:22.680 --> 01:10:28.680] insurance, plumbers. Plumbers are higher. Well, they're regulated. They're not
[01:10:28.680 --> 01:10:34.680] highly regulated. Insurance companies, what else, Brett?
[01:10:34.680 --> 01:10:39.680] Well, you asked a little while ago, what kind of company is this? I'm not sure I
[01:10:39.680 --> 01:10:45.680] heard the answer. I didn't and she didn't say so. I didn't ask again and I
[01:10:45.680 --> 01:10:49.680] understand why she's not saying because she don't want to risk them coming back
[01:10:49.680 --> 01:10:55.680] at her and I got that part. At the end, it doesn't matter. We talk more about
[01:10:55.680 --> 01:11:01.680] the criteria of the company, but if it is a private company, there are certain
[01:11:01.680 --> 01:11:05.680] things we want private companies to be able to do. We want them to be able to
[01:11:05.680 --> 01:11:15.680] function and not put themselves out of business by accruing risk that they
[01:11:15.680 --> 01:11:22.680] could avoid. Dr. Joe just came on our guest bridge and he talks about the
[01:11:22.680 --> 01:11:28.680] different styles of personality. Some people are very risk averse and
[01:11:28.680 --> 01:11:35.680] companies tend to be very risk averse. Celeste, it sounds exactly like what's
[01:11:35.680 --> 01:11:39.680] going on here. We've got a company here who's very risk averse. They're
[01:11:39.680 --> 01:11:45.680] terrified that they're going to get sued because they didn't take enough care
[01:11:45.680 --> 01:11:54.680] in their hiring. If you were in the position of the president of this
[01:11:54.680 --> 01:12:02.680] company, Celeste, how would you protect your company against careless hiring
[01:12:02.680 --> 01:12:14.680] practices? Well, I can't even take my emotions out of this one really.
[01:12:14.680 --> 01:12:21.680] However, I think by doing your own research, again, these companies making
[01:12:21.680 --> 01:12:28.680] this policy, they are effectively saying because you have that vaccine, you are
[01:12:28.680 --> 01:12:39.680] somehow immune from spreading this disease. You are immune from that if you
[01:12:39.680 --> 01:12:46.680] have the vaccine. I'm going to suggest something different. I'm going to
[01:12:46.680 --> 01:12:53.680] suggest that if I put in this requirement and I hire you and it turns out
[01:12:53.680 --> 01:13:03.680] you do have this condition, but I took a step to try to make sure this didn't
[01:13:03.680 --> 01:13:09.680] come into my company and someone in my company winds up with COVID, I have
[01:13:09.680 --> 01:13:17.680] possible deniability. You can't sue me because I acted with reasonable
[01:13:17.680 --> 01:13:26.680] due diligence. Does that make sense? No, not really to me because you have to
[01:13:26.680 --> 01:13:31.680] trace it and find that that was the exact person and that was the exact cause.
[01:13:31.680 --> 01:13:36.680] Well, if we could do that. Someone tried to sue that company. I'm an employee
[01:13:36.680 --> 01:13:43.680] or the family of an employee whose family member has died and I say it's
[01:13:43.680 --> 01:13:48.680] because of your fault because you hire an unvaccinated person. They would have
[01:13:48.680 --> 01:13:54.680] to prove that that person was the cause of that person's death, which is really
[01:13:54.680 --> 01:14:01.680] not even possible. Actually, no, they wouldn't. The problem with civil suits is
[01:14:01.680 --> 01:14:08.680] I can sue you for anything and I'm going to cost you a whole lot of money, a
[01:14:08.680 --> 01:14:13.680] whole lot of time and a whole lot of trouble whether I have grounds or not.
[01:14:13.680 --> 01:14:18.680] Now, there are mechanisms in law to eliminate frivolous lawsuits, but they
[01:14:18.680 --> 01:14:26.680] are still very costly. If I have a company here that has the public trust
[01:14:26.680 --> 01:14:35.680] and someone sues me for some supposed failure on my part and they or some
[01:14:35.680 --> 01:14:42.680] relative gets very ill and is horribly injured and comes up on the news, I am
[01:14:42.680 --> 01:14:50.680] badly damaged. Whether you can prove it up or not, I could prove that your
[01:14:50.680 --> 01:14:55.680] claims are totally unfounded. That part will make it on the back page of
[01:14:55.680 --> 01:15:00.680] the newspaper. The claim will make it on the first page of the newspaper.
[01:15:00.680 --> 01:15:07.680] Unfortunately, that's the way it works. The guy who's arrested and accused of
[01:15:07.680 --> 01:15:14.680] a horrible crime, that makes first page. When it turns out that he wasn't the
[01:15:14.680 --> 01:15:19.680] right guy, that makes it on the last page. The rest of his life, he will be
[01:15:19.680 --> 01:15:25.680] the guy that was arrested for this horrible crime. This company, I have my
[01:15:25.680 --> 01:15:34.680] own company and I am in the public eye. I'm not going to want bad press and I
[01:15:34.680 --> 01:15:42.680] would tend to take steps to ensure that didn't happen. Am I making sense here?
[01:15:42.680 --> 01:15:44.680] I'm trying to play the devil's advocate here.
[01:15:44.680 --> 01:15:50.680] I know you are, but I want to get to a solution to this aside from walking away
[01:15:50.680 --> 01:16:00.680] from opportunities because it's not just affecting, this affects any job,
[01:16:00.680 --> 01:16:07.680] anybody seeking a job right now. We have to have a way to be able to combat this
[01:16:07.680 --> 01:16:13.680] and the only way that I can think of as we're talking here. If we take the
[01:16:13.680 --> 01:16:20.680] religious rights aspect, even if it's a private company, I guess I'll have to go
[01:16:20.680 --> 01:16:27.680] look at some lawsuits and see if religious rights have prevailed within a
[01:16:27.680 --> 01:16:32.680] private company, discrimination against religious rights.
[01:16:32.680 --> 01:16:38.680] I don't think they will, but that's certainly something to look at. We're about
[01:16:38.680 --> 01:16:43.680] to run out of time here. Look into this, research it and call us back next week.
[01:16:43.680 --> 01:16:51.680] This is a good hard question and I like hard questions. Hang on, go into our
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[01:19:35.680 --> 01:19:43.680] I was blindsided but now I can see your plans. You put the fear in my pocket,
[01:19:43.680 --> 01:19:54.680] took the money from my hands. Ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again.
[01:19:54.680 --> 01:20:11.680] Ain't gonna fool me.
[01:20:11.680 --> 01:20:18.680] Ain't gonna drop me with that same old sucker pun. I get it now but then I'm
[01:20:18.680 --> 01:20:24.680] not gonna fool you back then.
[01:20:24.680 --> 01:20:28.680] Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule Of Law Radio and we're
[01:20:28.680 --> 01:20:32.680] talking to Celeste in Ohio. Celeste, we do need to move on. We've got a full
[01:20:32.680 --> 01:20:38.680] board of callers and only three segments left. Research this out and call us back
[01:20:38.680 --> 01:20:42.680] next weekend. I'd like to discuss this further.
[01:20:42.680 --> 01:20:48.680] We need to figure this out for a lot of people, right? A lot of people take the job.
[01:20:48.680 --> 01:20:49.680] Yes.
[01:20:49.680 --> 01:20:50.680] Okay.
[01:20:50.680 --> 01:20:51.680] Yes.
[01:20:51.680 --> 01:20:52.680] All right.
[01:20:52.680 --> 01:20:54.680] We need to know what rights we actually have when it comes to business. So thank
[01:20:54.680 --> 01:20:58.680] you for your call and I look forward to talking to you next week.
[01:20:58.680 --> 01:21:00.680] Yes, thank you very much.
[01:21:00.680 --> 01:21:11.680] Okay, good night. Okay, now we're going to Jaylen in Alabama. Hello, Jaylen.
[01:21:11.680 --> 01:21:14.680] Hello, Mr. Brett. Good evening.
[01:21:14.680 --> 01:21:22.680] Mr. Brett? Who the heck is Mr. Brett? What am I, chopped liver?
[01:21:22.680 --> 01:21:29.680] You gotta say hello, Mr. Randy.
[01:21:29.680 --> 01:21:34.680] Okay, what do you have for us today? Oh, just for that, wait, I got to tell you
[01:21:34.680 --> 01:21:39.680] about an Alabama story. I went down to Alabama from Tennessee when I was up
[01:21:39.680 --> 01:21:43.680] there taking care of my mom to help a guy with a traffic issue. And we're out
[01:21:43.680 --> 01:21:47.680] in the hall and there's a guy out there talking. He's clearly the prosecutor.
[01:21:47.680 --> 01:21:51.680] And I went up to him and I said, you know, I'm down here from Tennessee and up
[01:21:51.680 --> 01:21:57.680] there in Tennessee we got hillbillies. And I live in Texas and down in Texas we
[01:21:57.680 --> 01:22:02.680] got rednecks. I said, what do you have here in Alabama? And without the
[01:22:02.680 --> 01:22:10.680] slightest hesitation he said, white trash. Every time I hear Alabama I think
[01:22:10.680 --> 01:22:17.680] of that one. Okay, with that insult, go ahead, Jaylen.
[01:22:17.680 --> 01:22:23.680] It's all good. It's all good. I like it. Well, so yeah, we're talking about
[01:22:23.680 --> 01:22:30.680] Alabama. Time-wise, probably should have made this call around maybe two.
[01:22:30.680 --> 01:22:34.680] Okay, wait a minute, wait a minute. You're a little muffled. Are you on a
[01:22:34.680 --> 01:22:43.680] hands-free unit, Bluetooth or something? You're in my Apple wired headphones.
[01:22:43.680 --> 01:22:48.680] Is this better for you or is it still muffled? It'd be better if you weren't on
[01:22:48.680 --> 01:22:58.680] headphones. Okay. Is this all right? No difference. I think it's the same.
[01:22:58.680 --> 01:23:03.680] Yeah, I think it's the same. We can hear you. It's just not as loud and clear as
[01:23:03.680 --> 01:23:10.680] we'd like it to be. Okay, and keep a little radio trick here. You're speaking
[01:23:10.680 --> 01:23:16.680] on the radio. And Brett and I, we have to keep this in mind all the time. I
[01:23:16.680 --> 01:23:21.680] can't see your lips. I can't see your facial expressions and I can't see your
[01:23:21.680 --> 01:23:26.680] hand movements. All of those help human beings communicate with one another.
[01:23:26.680 --> 01:23:34.680] All we have is voice. So when we hear your voice, we have to take those words
[01:23:34.680 --> 01:23:39.680] with no other help and stitch them all together and it takes just slightly
[01:23:39.680 --> 01:23:45.680] longer. When I listen to myself on the radio, I sound like I talk slow. But
[01:23:45.680 --> 01:23:51.680] when I ask somebody else about that, they don't notice that I talk slow. But I
[01:23:51.680 --> 01:23:56.680] deliberately slow down my speech when I'm on the radio because it takes the
[01:23:56.680 --> 01:24:01.680] listener just a little bit longer to stitch all these words together without
[01:24:01.680 --> 01:24:10.680] any visual cues. Does that make sense? Yes, I understand. Okay, try it again and
[01:24:10.680 --> 01:24:24.680] try not to talk faster than we can listen. Okay. So I was cold. No, no, no,
[01:24:24.680 --> 01:24:34.680] not that slow. Just a little slower in the cadence. You were just saying that
[01:24:34.680 --> 01:24:43.680] you felt like maybe you should have called earlier. What was that about? The
[01:24:43.680 --> 01:24:54.680] incident occurred in November. I've kind of had access to y'all information
[01:24:54.680 --> 01:25:04.680] since maybe November 20th, November 25th, something like that. And the court
[01:25:04.680 --> 01:25:21.680] hearing is December 19th. Nature of case. Traffic, criminal, civil kind of
[01:25:21.680 --> 01:25:32.680] court. Okay, say that again. We were talking over you. Okay. I failed to yield
[01:25:32.680 --> 01:25:43.680] to an emergency vehicle. Okay, traffic. Traffic. Yes, traffic. Okay, you're a
[01:25:43.680 --> 01:25:47.680] little, you know, I kind of screwed you up there because telling you to slow
[01:25:47.680 --> 01:25:50.680] down a little bit. You're a little bit stilted. You can actually go a little
[01:25:50.680 --> 01:25:58.680] bit faster. If you make sure you stop one word before you start the next word,
[01:25:58.680 --> 01:26:02.680] that's all the space we need. Sometimes we just run things together. You can't
[01:26:02.680 --> 01:26:06.680] understand what they're saying. It's harder on the radio. If I can see you,
[01:26:06.680 --> 01:26:10.680] it's not so hard. So don't worry about talking too slow. Just try not to run
[01:26:10.680 --> 01:26:27.680] words together. That's cool. So yeah, it's a traffic ticket. And basically my
[01:26:27.680 --> 01:26:36.680] court appearance is within two weeks. You know, I kind of network with other
[01:26:36.680 --> 01:26:42.680] people just to kind of gauge how this process can work. And I eventually
[01:26:42.680 --> 01:26:49.680] procrastinated on it, you know, but you know, better late than never, never. So
[01:26:49.680 --> 01:26:58.680] I'm just trying to do what I can with the time that I have now, you know, which
[01:26:58.680 --> 01:27:02.680] is, you know, just getting as much information on how I could best position
[01:27:02.680 --> 01:27:06.680] myself to win.
[01:27:06.680 --> 01:27:16.680] Okay. Let me give you a little bit of sage advice from long experience. The
[01:27:16.680 --> 01:27:25.680] most difficult cases to win in court are traffic. The traffic courts do not care
[01:27:25.680 --> 01:27:32.680] about rule of law, right of things. They just don't care. 99.9% of the people
[01:27:32.680 --> 01:27:41.680] will pay the fine. Every once in a great while, someone will object and they
[01:27:41.680 --> 01:27:45.680] don't care. They don't care what the law is. They don't care what the rules are.
[01:27:45.680 --> 01:27:54.680] If you get into this traffic fight, it's going to be a big fight. You would think
[01:27:54.680 --> 01:27:59.680] it's a traffic ticket, you know, a few hundred bucks. If I beat them up a
[01:27:59.680 --> 01:28:05.680] little bit, they'll just drop this to make it go away. No, they don't. It
[01:28:05.680 --> 01:28:10.680] embarrasses them to have some chump pro se beat them in court. They will fight
[01:28:10.680 --> 01:28:20.680] you like a tiger. This is not something you can readily fight without being
[01:28:20.680 --> 01:28:28.680] dedicated to it. I am in a fight with the city next to me for giving me a ticket
[01:28:28.680 --> 01:28:36.680] and it makes no difference what you do in traffic court. They ignore everything.
[01:28:36.680 --> 01:28:43.680] This judge knows me. I helped someone in another neighboring town and he was the
[01:28:43.680 --> 01:28:50.680] judge there and I hammered him big time. I stood in court and ordered the bailiff
[01:28:50.680 --> 01:28:56.680] to arrest him. He knows it and still it makes no difference. I'm going to have to
[01:28:56.680 --> 01:29:02.680] sue them all in another court. I give them a 30 page subject matter
[01:29:02.680 --> 01:29:07.680] jurisdiction challenge. Denied. Never seen it before. Denied. It's denied out
[01:29:07.680 --> 01:29:14.680] of hand. He doesn't care. And he doesn't. This is traffic. Now, if it was county
[01:29:14.680 --> 01:29:18.680] or district, they pay a little more attention to law, but in these traffic
[01:29:18.680 --> 01:29:22.680] courts, they don't. So, what I'm saying, I'm not saying you can't beat this one.
[01:29:22.680 --> 01:29:29.680] I'm not saying that it's anything less than a great idea to fight them because,
[01:29:29.680 --> 01:29:32.680] you know, it's a few hundred bucks. It's going to be what it's going to be if you
[01:29:32.680 --> 01:29:40.680] fight it or not. Greatest place to get a good legal education. With that said,
[01:29:40.680 --> 01:29:45.680] when we come back on the other side, we're going to pick up a few details and
[01:29:45.680 --> 01:29:49.680] I'm going to ask you about the application of the commercial traffic code to
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[01:33:42.680 --> 01:34:01.680] Okay. We are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio.
[01:34:01.680 --> 01:34:11.680] And we're talking to Jalen in Alabama. Okay. We got the preface set. Is this a
[01:34:11.680 --> 01:34:17.680] fight you want to have?
[01:34:17.680 --> 01:34:30.680] Actually, I say this. I'm game due to the fact that I really feel like, well,
[01:34:30.680 --> 01:34:37.680] I feel like just me accepting this ticket would be unlawful, honestly.
[01:34:37.680 --> 01:34:42.680] Good. Okay. You know, I'm not saying don't fight traffic tickets. I just hate
[01:34:42.680 --> 01:34:52.680] for you to think that it's easy. It is absolutely the best place for a little
[01:34:52.680 --> 01:34:58.680] social studies. They don't teach social studies in school anymore. They don't
[01:34:58.680 --> 01:35:03.680] teach how the system works. And there's no better place to do it than a traffic
[01:35:03.680 --> 01:35:10.680] ticket. They wrote me a traffic ticket. Man, I get to go in there and do such
[01:35:10.680 --> 01:35:16.680] horrible stuff to them. I filed first degree felony aggravated assault charges
[01:35:16.680 --> 01:35:23.680] against the officer that wrote the ticket. And then I filed a T-Cold complaint,
[01:35:23.680 --> 01:35:29.680] a professional conduct complaint against him. And when his chief didn't take my
[01:35:29.680 --> 01:35:34.680] complaint and give it to some magistrate, I filed criminal charges against him.
[01:35:34.680 --> 01:35:40.680] I say, Mr. Officer, you want to write me a ticket? I will give you a romp through
[01:35:40.680 --> 01:35:45.680] the legal system. You are not going to believe. Yeah, it takes some time. It
[01:35:45.680 --> 01:35:52.680] takes work. But there's, you know, would you rather learn how the legal system
[01:35:52.680 --> 01:35:57.680] works over, say, a Class A misdemeanor that can cost you a year in jail?
[01:35:57.680 --> 01:36:02.680] No, you do not. That's a big deal. This is just a ticket.
[01:36:02.680 --> 01:36:11.680] In response to that, it's expressed to me that the circumstances of the ticket is
[01:36:11.680 --> 01:36:19.680] that it's a misdemeanor. It is generally a misdemeanor. In Texas, it's a Class C
[01:36:19.680 --> 01:36:22.680] misdemeanor, and a lot of the states call it that. But some of them call it
[01:36:22.680 --> 01:36:27.680] different names. But it is a citation for which you cannot be sentenced to jail
[01:36:27.680 --> 01:36:34.680] time. So it's only going to cost you money. If you fight it, if you don't fight it,
[01:36:34.680 --> 01:36:39.680] it's going to cost you money. You're not going to jail over this. So it's a good
[01:36:39.680 --> 01:36:42.680] way to learn how the legal system works.
[01:36:42.680 --> 01:36:50.680] And that's a thing is that it's going to cost me money. In particular, my case is
[01:36:50.680 --> 01:36:56.680] going to cost me a lot of money due to the long-term ramifications of it
[01:36:56.680 --> 01:36:58.680] insurance-wise.
[01:36:58.680 --> 01:37:07.680] Okay. Figure out what you want to do. Do you want to win the case, or do you want
[01:37:07.680 --> 01:37:16.680] this not to cost you a lot of money? Let me explain what's going to happen. If you
[01:37:16.680 --> 01:37:20.680] don't go down there and pay the ticket, they're going to order you to come to
[01:37:20.680 --> 01:37:27.680] court. And it's going to be bogus. The prosecutor is going to order you to come
[01:37:27.680 --> 01:37:32.680] to court. Well, he can't do that. I tell him, if the prosecutor wants to meet with
[01:37:32.680 --> 01:37:37.680] me, call my secretary and set an appointment. But what they do is they send
[01:37:37.680 --> 01:37:44.680] you this notice to appear. They did that to me. And the prosecutor wanted to talk
[01:37:44.680 --> 01:37:49.680] to me. And I said, I don't talk to persecuting attorneys. It was a Zoom
[01:37:49.680 --> 01:37:56.680] hearing. And I think I heard her feelings. I don't talk to persecutors. If they
[01:37:56.680 --> 01:38:04.680] summon you to actually come to court, and the prosecutor's there and the judge is
[01:38:04.680 --> 01:38:10.680] not, file criminal charges against the prosecutor for impersonating a judicial
[01:38:10.680 --> 01:38:20.680] officer. Prosecutors cannot issue summons. Only judges can. But that's what
[01:38:20.680 --> 01:38:26.680] they'll do. Now, I'm saying this because determine what you want. If you want
[01:38:26.680 --> 01:38:34.680] this to not cost you a lot of money, then you order the prosecutor. He's going to
[01:38:34.680 --> 01:38:37.680] offer you a deal, and you tell him, not good enough. I'll go to court, and I'll
[01:38:37.680 --> 01:38:44.680] beat you in court. And then you file a couple motions. You come back and ask
[01:38:44.680 --> 01:38:47.680] the prosecutor, you got a better deal for me? And you'll probably get a better
[01:38:47.680 --> 01:39:01.680] deal. What would be a good deal for you if you could deal this out? Say, we'll
[01:39:01.680 --> 01:39:07.680] lower this to driving with a headlight out, non-moving violation, and cut your
[01:39:07.680 --> 01:39:16.680] fine by two-thirds, save us having to go to court. Would that work for you?
[01:39:16.680 --> 01:39:26.680] It still won't due to my intentions of, well, honestly, having a business that
[01:39:26.680 --> 01:39:32.680] would require a large fleet of vehicles. And so it's one of those things where
[01:39:32.680 --> 01:39:36.680] the more I grow, the more my insurance costs will grow. You got what I'm
[01:39:36.680 --> 01:39:41.680] saying? Yeah. But if it's something like a headlight out, then that would be a
[01:39:41.680 --> 01:39:45.680] non-moving violation. That doesn't crank up points or anything or make your
[01:39:45.680 --> 01:39:49.680] insurance go crazy, right? I think that's what Randy's getting at, is would you
[01:39:49.680 --> 01:39:58.680] be willing to take a deal that would not result in an insurance hike? I would.
[01:39:58.680 --> 01:40:02.680] Yeah, that'd be up my alley. There's one of those things where I'm reading
[01:40:02.680 --> 01:40:09.680] bullshit. Oh, my God. Can this profanity be all right on the show or no? You
[01:40:09.680 --> 01:40:15.680] can't say shit on the show. You can say feces. My bad. I do quite seriously
[01:40:15.680 --> 01:40:24.680] apologize, Mr. Randy. I'm just kidding. Those terms come out as long as they're
[01:40:24.680 --> 01:40:30.680] not a bomb or something like that. It's not a big problem. But Deborah prefers
[01:40:30.680 --> 01:40:35.680] that we keep it as clean as possible. But you're not a pro, and we don't hold
[01:40:35.680 --> 01:40:44.680] you to the same rules. So don't be reluctant just to speak normally.
[01:40:44.680 --> 01:40:50.680] Okay. And I hope that my speech is becoming a little bit more needed for
[01:40:50.680 --> 01:40:54.680] the radio. I'm getting a little more confident.
[01:40:54.680 --> 01:41:02.680] Okay. On the break, I told Brett that I kind of tripped you up there by screwing
[01:41:02.680 --> 01:41:06.680] up the way you could speak. But I said I hope that as he moves along, he will
[01:41:06.680 --> 01:41:12.680] get better at breaking the words apart and be able to speak more clearly. And
[01:41:12.680 --> 01:41:17.680] you've done exactly that. You've made that little adjustment, and we can
[01:41:17.680 --> 01:41:21.680] understand you just fine.
[01:41:21.680 --> 01:41:25.680] Okay. Good stuff. Great.
[01:41:25.680 --> 01:41:29.680] So what do you want? What do you want at the end of the day?
[01:41:29.680 --> 01:41:42.680] At the end of the day, I need this to...if it takes money to where it doesn't affect my
[01:41:42.680 --> 01:41:51.680] record long term. You know, honestly, yeah, that's what I'd like.
[01:41:51.680 --> 01:42:01.680] Okay. A nonmoving violation won't affect your driving record long term.
[01:42:01.680 --> 01:42:06.680] So go to the prosecutor, and he'll offer you a deal. You sit and tell him,
[01:42:06.680 --> 01:42:11.680] you lower this to a nonmoving violation so it doesn't screw up my insurance.
[01:42:11.680 --> 01:42:19.680] We'll make a deal. If not, beat him up a little bit. Maybe file a bar grievance
[01:42:19.680 --> 01:42:27.680] claim. That'll jerk a knot in his shorts.
[01:42:27.680 --> 01:42:28.680] Okay.
[01:42:28.680 --> 01:42:33.680] But then again, you run the risk of really upsetting him at you, and he'll want
[01:42:33.680 --> 01:42:40.680] to beat you up. If he does, if that happens, you bargain with him again.
[01:42:40.680 --> 01:42:48.680] Now, is this a...when I'm engaging with the prosecutor, are you saying like in
[01:42:48.680 --> 01:42:51.680] a court hearing or...
[01:42:51.680 --> 01:42:58.680] No, no, no. They'll call you in for what they call an arraignment. In Texas law,
[01:42:58.680 --> 01:43:04.680] arraignment is a hearing for the purpose of determining the identity of the
[01:43:04.680 --> 01:43:10.680] accused and taking the plea. But that's just a BS excuse to call you into court
[01:43:10.680 --> 01:43:15.680] so that the prosecutor can talk to you.
[01:43:15.680 --> 01:43:20.680] Here's how it works. 73% of all people who get a ticket just write a check and
[01:43:20.680 --> 01:43:26.680] pay for it. The other 27% are not happy and they want to come to court.
[01:43:26.680 --> 01:43:31.680] So they call them into court and send them in to talk to the prosecutor.
[01:43:31.680 --> 01:43:38.680] And 99% of those make a deal with the prosecutor. That's the way it works.
[01:43:38.680 --> 01:43:44.680] So they're going to expect you to make a deal with them if you come in.
[01:43:44.680 --> 01:43:49.680] So he's going to be ready with a deal. You don't like his deal.
[01:43:49.680 --> 01:43:53.680] You give him a counter offer. But you need to know what you want.
[01:43:53.680 --> 01:44:17.680] Hang on, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rue LaVla Radio. We'll be right back.
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[01:46:32.680 --> 01:46:35.680] Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio, and we're talking to Jaylin
[01:46:35.680 --> 01:46:36.680] in Alabama.
[01:46:36.680 --> 01:46:40.680] And, Jaylin, if I was you, I wouldn't worry too much about it.
[01:46:40.680 --> 01:46:48.680] They'll call you in for a hearing, and the prosecutor will offer you a deal.
[01:46:48.680 --> 01:46:52.680] If you don't like the deal, tell them, no, no, I don't like that.
[01:46:52.680 --> 01:46:55.680] We'll just go to jury trial.
[01:46:55.680 --> 01:46:59.680] Have you ever played poker?
[01:46:59.680 --> 01:47:01.680] Yes.
[01:47:01.680 --> 01:47:03.680] This is poker.
[01:47:03.680 --> 01:47:04.680] Not about law.
[01:47:04.680 --> 01:47:06.680] It's about poker.
[01:47:06.680 --> 01:47:08.680] You play your hand.
[01:47:08.680 --> 01:47:09.680] You mess with me.
[01:47:09.680 --> 01:47:12.680] I'll fight you until hell freezes over.
[01:47:12.680 --> 01:47:15.680] I'll bargain with you until the stone age.
[01:47:15.680 --> 01:47:18.680] I'll file judicial conduct complaints against the judge.
[01:47:18.680 --> 01:47:21.680] I'll file professional conduct complaints against the cop.
[01:47:21.680 --> 01:47:23.680] I'll make your life a living hell.
[01:47:23.680 --> 01:47:26.680] Make me a deal.
[01:47:26.680 --> 01:47:29.680] Just let him know you know how it works.
[01:47:29.680 --> 01:47:31.680] Make me a deal I can live with.
[01:47:31.680 --> 01:47:34.680] It doesn't cost me a whole lot on my insurance, and I'll leave you alone.
[01:47:34.680 --> 01:47:38.680] Otherwise, when I get out of here, I'll bargain with you a couple of times.
[01:47:38.680 --> 01:47:46.680] Now, is this – so when I say bargain, is that if I express that I'm not guilty?
[01:47:46.680 --> 01:47:47.680] It doesn't matter.
[01:47:47.680 --> 01:47:50.680] It doesn't have anything to do with not guilty.
[01:47:50.680 --> 01:47:54.680] It has to do with you are – when you say bar grieve,
[01:47:54.680 --> 01:48:00.680] you're saying that you're reporting to the state bar that such-and-such attorney over here
[01:48:00.680 --> 01:48:07.680] with such-and-such number has violated one of the ethics rules, and you say which rule,
[01:48:07.680 --> 01:48:16.680] rule 2.1, rule 3.9, whatever, you say which rule he violated.
[01:48:16.680 --> 01:48:22.680] It doesn't really matter about the case, the not guilty or anything.
[01:48:22.680 --> 01:48:29.680] Yeah, go to the state of Alabama and look up the professional conduct rules for lawyers, for attorneys.
[01:48:29.680 --> 01:48:32.680] It reads like a comic book.
[01:48:32.680 --> 01:48:39.680] Go to ALABAR.org.
[01:48:39.680 --> 01:48:43.680] You'll start reading it, and you'll say, holy crap, I can grieve him for this?
[01:48:43.680 --> 01:48:45.680] I can grieve him for that?
[01:48:45.680 --> 01:48:47.680] Oh, it'll be great.
[01:48:47.680 --> 01:48:51.680] And what happens when you grieve the attorney?
[01:48:51.680 --> 01:48:56.680] If it's his first year of practice, they'll cancel his malpractice insurance immediately.
[01:48:56.680 --> 01:48:59.680] Whether your grievance is valid or not doesn't make any difference.
[01:48:59.680 --> 01:49:01.680] They'll cancel.
[01:49:01.680 --> 01:49:05.680] If he gets two bar grievances, if he's been practicing 20 years, they'll cancel.
[01:49:05.680 --> 01:49:08.680] Three, they'll cancel his law firm's malpractice insurance.
[01:49:08.680 --> 01:49:12.680] Valid, invalid, they don't care.
[01:49:12.680 --> 01:49:15.680] It's a tool you have available to you.
[01:49:15.680 --> 01:49:23.680] They never take, the bars never act on bar grievances, and the insurance carriers know that.
[01:49:23.680 --> 01:49:25.680] So how do they gauge their level of risk?
[01:49:25.680 --> 01:49:28.680] By valid bar grievances, heck, they throw them all out.
[01:49:28.680 --> 01:49:34.680] You could bar grieve him for parting his hair on the left, and they'll cancel his insurance.
[01:49:34.680 --> 01:49:39.680] It's good to know where you got leverage.
[01:49:39.680 --> 01:49:41.680] But it's a poker game.
[01:49:41.680 --> 01:49:42.680] Play this hand.
[01:49:42.680 --> 01:49:43.680] I do need to move on.
[01:49:43.680 --> 01:49:50.680] I've got one half segment, and I've got a caller that's been waiting for quite a while.
[01:49:50.680 --> 01:49:51.680] Okay.
[01:49:51.680 --> 01:49:56.680] Go to your first hearing, and then call us and let us know what happened.
[01:49:56.680 --> 01:49:57.680] Okay.
[01:49:57.680 --> 01:49:58.680] Yes, sir.
[01:49:58.680 --> 01:49:59.680] Okay.
[01:49:59.680 --> 01:50:00.680] Have fun.
[01:50:00.680 --> 01:50:01.680] Okay.
[01:50:01.680 --> 01:50:02.680] We are going to Daisy in Ohio.
[01:50:02.680 --> 01:50:03.680] Hello, Daisy.
[01:50:03.680 --> 01:50:06.680] And I apologize for the short amount of time.
[01:50:06.680 --> 01:50:14.680] Yeah, I don't know if we'll be able to unpack everything with half a segment, so.
[01:50:14.680 --> 01:50:15.680] Okay.
[01:50:15.680 --> 01:50:16.680] We'll be able to do it.
[01:50:16.680 --> 01:50:17.680] Can you call back tomorrow night?
[01:50:17.680 --> 01:50:19.680] Yeah, I can do that.
[01:50:19.680 --> 01:50:23.680] Well, actually, I can't tomorrow night, but I'll try next week.
[01:50:23.680 --> 01:50:24.680] Okay.
[01:50:24.680 --> 01:50:25.680] Give us a brief.
[01:50:25.680 --> 01:50:28.680] So the brief is I've called before.
[01:50:28.680 --> 01:50:39.680] I'm in litigation with the school board, and it's a mandamus over public records request.
[01:50:39.680 --> 01:50:41.680] And I went to that status conference.
[01:50:41.680 --> 01:50:42.680] Oh, that's right.
[01:50:42.680 --> 01:50:44.680] You're in Ohio, where.
[01:50:44.680 --> 01:50:45.680] Yeah.
[01:50:45.680 --> 01:50:46.680] I remember this year.
[01:50:46.680 --> 01:50:48.680] It's not criminal in Ohio.
[01:50:48.680 --> 01:50:50.680] Well, you can.
[01:50:50.680 --> 01:50:53.680] I mean, I'm not sure if it's criminal.
[01:50:53.680 --> 01:51:01.680] I mean, they're breaking some laws, but one of the remedy is to take them to just to do
[01:51:01.680 --> 01:51:04.680] a mandamus and go that route.
[01:51:04.680 --> 01:51:08.680] And so I chose that route.
[01:51:08.680 --> 01:51:19.680] And so we went to the status conference, and I left saying no to a mediation.
[01:51:19.680 --> 01:51:20.680] And then I thought about it.
[01:51:20.680 --> 01:51:25.680] I was like, well, I should actually try a mediation because there's a limit to what
[01:51:25.680 --> 01:51:31.680] they can be, you know, what the judgment can be based on the statute.
[01:51:31.680 --> 01:51:33.680] There's a limit, a ceiling.
[01:51:33.680 --> 01:51:40.680] But in mediation, we might be able to, you know, I might be able to arm wrestle them
[01:51:40.680 --> 01:51:41.680] into more.
[01:51:41.680 --> 01:51:47.680] And so that's kind of what I wanted to discuss is how to become armed in mediation because
[01:51:47.680 --> 01:51:55.680] I have a long list of grievances that the school board has, the school district has
[01:51:55.680 --> 01:51:57.680] done against me.
[01:51:57.680 --> 01:52:03.680] And it goes into different, you know, different causes of action.
[01:52:03.680 --> 01:52:06.680] And so I kind of want to streamline that.
[01:52:06.680 --> 01:52:13.680] I know I was going to go in with like a, you know, a whole list of folder worth for each
[01:52:13.680 --> 01:52:16.680] one of the school board members with all their criminal complaints.
[01:52:16.680 --> 01:52:20.680] But and maybe the bar agree.
[01:52:20.680 --> 01:52:25.680] Do you have an organized crime statute in Ohio?
[01:52:25.680 --> 01:52:28.680] We do.
[01:52:28.680 --> 01:52:35.680] This sounds like multiple predicate acts toward an ongoing criminal conspiracy to deny you
[01:52:35.680 --> 01:52:39.680] access to public records.
[01:52:39.680 --> 01:52:40.680] Yes, that's true.
[01:52:40.680 --> 01:52:46.680] But the thing is, is that what they've done actually goes outside of the public records
[01:52:46.680 --> 01:52:47.680] issue.
[01:52:47.680 --> 01:52:54.680] So the public records was just what I was trying to do to start to investigate some
[01:52:54.680 --> 01:52:57.680] of the other things they've done to me.
[01:52:57.680 --> 01:53:04.680] So in mediation, what I wanted to do is show them that if we, if I don't get what I believe
[01:53:04.680 --> 01:53:12.680] I deserve now for their harassment, intimidation, various other things, then I have this lawsuit
[01:53:12.680 --> 01:53:13.680] ready.
[01:53:13.680 --> 01:53:15.680] I have all these criminal complaints ready.
[01:53:15.680 --> 01:53:21.680] I have another mandamus for another public record that they haven't fulfilled.
[01:53:21.680 --> 01:53:24.680] I have this list of...
[01:53:24.680 --> 01:53:25.680] Okay, hold on.
[01:53:25.680 --> 01:53:30.680] You brought a question to my mind there.
[01:53:30.680 --> 01:53:34.680] You said you have all these criminal complaints ready.
[01:53:34.680 --> 01:53:38.680] Why haven't you filed them?
[01:53:38.680 --> 01:53:49.680] Well, I had filed, I had tried around for a branch for an incident within the saga.
[01:53:49.680 --> 01:53:52.680] They were denied and I didn't do them correctly.
[01:53:52.680 --> 01:53:56.680] Then I got involved in the traffic case and then I got involved in this.
[01:53:56.680 --> 01:54:00.680] So you're like the rest of us.
[01:54:00.680 --> 01:54:02.680] It has a tendency to get overwhelming.
[01:54:02.680 --> 01:54:03.680] Yeah, it gets overwhelming.
[01:54:03.680 --> 01:54:09.680] But now I'm focusing in on mediation because my goal is to get a settlement, be done.
[01:54:09.680 --> 01:54:12.680] My daughter is going to private school next year and be done with the school district.
[01:54:12.680 --> 01:54:15.680] This school district wants nothing to do with me.
[01:54:15.680 --> 01:54:23.680] There was another incident that just happened that got them even more deeper in doo-doo.
[01:54:23.680 --> 01:54:33.680] So the reason why what my plan is to come to the mediation with criminal complaints that have not yet been filed
[01:54:33.680 --> 01:54:36.680] as part of, hey, I'll sign this.
[01:54:36.680 --> 01:54:38.680] I won't make another public record request.
[01:54:38.680 --> 01:54:47.680] I won't charge you for all these crimes and I'll go away.
[01:54:47.680 --> 01:54:53.680] So that was kind of like my, so all that was going to be my leverage.
[01:54:53.680 --> 01:55:00.680] So I don't want to file it beforehand because I want to use it in mediation as a reason for them to just take me to court.
[01:55:00.680 --> 01:55:09.680] You can be relatively sure that when you file them, whoever you file them with is not going to act on them.
[01:55:09.680 --> 01:55:17.680] So what I did in Victoria County is I went down to file criminal complaints against some guys
[01:55:17.680 --> 01:55:20.680] and the judge wouldn't take the criminal complaints.
[01:55:20.680 --> 01:55:23.680] I never went back to those criminal complaints.
[01:55:23.680 --> 01:55:26.680] I just filed against the judge.
[01:55:26.680 --> 01:55:31.680] Now I'm beating up the judge, creating all this political havoc.
[01:55:31.680 --> 01:55:36.680] And at the end of the day, it's going to come back to where it started.
[01:55:36.680 --> 01:55:47.680] If you filed the criminal complaints and then you go into mediation and you agree not to pursue prosecution,
[01:55:47.680 --> 01:55:52.680] if you threaten them with criminal complaints, they won't pay attention to that.
[01:55:52.680 --> 01:55:59.680] But if you already filed it, then you're likely to have more leverage,
[01:55:59.680 --> 01:56:02.680] especially if someone didn't act properly on it.
[01:56:02.680 --> 01:56:05.680] Now you're kicking somebody else.
[01:56:05.680 --> 01:56:12.680] And that somebody else is going to be looking back at these guys and say, hey, get this woman off my behind.
[01:56:12.680 --> 01:56:15.680] All about politics.
[01:56:15.680 --> 01:56:20.680] Who can you get to put pressure on them?
[01:56:20.680 --> 01:56:23.680] Okay, I'm thinking.
[01:56:23.680 --> 01:56:26.680] That's what I thought. That's why I didn't say anything.
[01:56:26.680 --> 01:56:28.680] I really like the idea.
[01:56:28.680 --> 01:56:32.680] You painted a great mental image with you sitting at a big table,
[01:56:32.680 --> 01:56:35.680] and you have a pile of folders, and each one of them is thick,
[01:56:35.680 --> 01:56:42.680] and they've got a big name tag on the front of each one so they can all see that, oh, my gosh, you've got a big old folder on me, too.
[01:56:42.680 --> 01:56:44.680] I love that mental image.
[01:56:44.680 --> 01:56:49.680] Yeah, and I was going to have my fifth mandamus.
[01:56:49.680 --> 01:56:53.680] I haven't filed because I wanted to see where this goes.
[01:56:53.680 --> 01:56:55.680] So I was going to have that ready.
[01:56:55.680 --> 01:57:05.680] And I mean, I'm telling you, I actually have a breakdown of a video where they called the cops on me at the school district,
[01:57:05.680 --> 01:57:10.680] and I have the off-video recording of it that I was going to put up on YouTube.
[01:57:10.680 --> 01:57:11.680] Well, hold on.
[01:57:11.680 --> 01:57:14.680] Let me make a suggestion.
[01:57:14.680 --> 01:57:20.680] If you don't have the mandamus quite ready yet, send it to them anyway.
[01:57:20.680 --> 01:57:29.680] Send it to the other side, and then a few days later, send them an email saying, oh, my bad, that wasn't supposed to go to you yet.
[01:57:29.680 --> 01:57:31.680] It's not quite ready.
[01:57:31.680 --> 01:57:42.680] Well, the reason I'm careful with that one is because with the statute, they start getting deemed starting the day I file.
[01:57:42.680 --> 01:57:48.680] So I don't want to give them a heads-up that I'm going to file because they could try to – even though I don't think they're going to give me the records.
[01:57:48.680 --> 01:57:52.680] See, there's records they don't want to give.
[01:57:52.680 --> 01:57:53.680] Okay.
[01:57:53.680 --> 01:57:55.680] One other thing I thought of earlier.
[01:57:55.680 --> 01:57:57.680] I need to get this in.
[01:57:57.680 --> 01:58:04.680] Have you looked at pre-litigation discovery in Ohio?
[01:58:04.680 --> 01:58:06.680] No.
[01:58:06.680 --> 01:58:08.680] Look it up.
[01:58:08.680 --> 01:58:09.680] Yeah.
[01:58:09.680 --> 01:58:12.680] It's likely to be much more powerful than open records.
[01:58:12.680 --> 01:58:19.680] You can most likely bring them in for a deposition under pre-trial litigation.
[01:58:19.680 --> 01:58:22.680] That will definitely get their attention.
[01:58:22.680 --> 01:58:25.680] Look that up, and if you can call us back tomorrow, great.
[01:58:25.680 --> 01:58:31.680] If not, call us back next week, and we'll talk about pre-trial litigation.
[01:58:31.680 --> 01:58:32.680] Thank you very much.
[01:58:32.680 --> 01:58:34.680] We are out of time, Daisy.
[01:58:34.680 --> 01:58:38.680] This is Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio.
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