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[00:00.000 --> 00:05.500]  The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution.
[00:05.500 --> 00:09.500]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[00:09.500 --> 00:11.000]  Our liberty depends on it.
[00:11.000 --> 00:16.500]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember your First Amendment rights.
[00:16.500 --> 00:18.500]  Privacy is under attack.
[00:18.500 --> 00:22.000]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[00:22.000 --> 00:27.000]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[00:27.000 --> 00:32.000]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
[00:32.000 --> 00:34.500]  Privacy. It's worth hanging on to.
[00:34.500 --> 00:38.000]  This public service announcement is brought to you by Startpage.com,
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[00:45.500 --> 00:50.500]  Most of us know that taking the Fifth means you're choosing to remain silent about a criminal matter.
[00:50.500 --> 00:55.000]  It's a good way to remember that the Fifth Amendment spells out what can and can't happen to you
[00:55.000 --> 00:57.000]  when you're accused of a criminal offense.
[00:57.000 --> 01:02.000]  The Fifth guarantees due process, prohibits trying someone more than once for the same crime,
[01:02.000 --> 01:04.000]  and lets you keep your mouth shut.
[01:04.000 --> 01:09.000]  The Founding Fathers inserted these constitutional provisions to protect citizens from torture.
[01:09.000 --> 01:13.500]  Back in the day, governments often used painful methods to extract confessions.
[01:13.500 --> 01:18.000]  The Fifth Amendment also prohibits the government from taking your house and land without paying you for it.
[01:18.000 --> 01:20.000]  That used to happen a lot too.
[01:20.000 --> 01:25.000]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[01:31.000 --> 01:35.000]  The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution
[01:35.000 --> 01:39.000]  that guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[01:39.000 --> 01:41.000]  Our liberty depends on it.
[01:41.000 --> 01:47.000]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember one of your constitutional rights.
[01:47.000 --> 01:52.000]  Privacy is under attack. When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[01:52.000 --> 01:57.000]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[01:57.000 --> 02:02.000]  So protect your rights. Say no to surveillance and keep your information to yourself.
[02:02.000 --> 02:05.000]  Privacy. It's worth hanging on to.
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[02:15.000 --> 02:18.000]  The number 666 reminds me of evil.
[02:18.000 --> 02:23.000]  I also associate it with the sick feeling one might get when falsely accused of a heinous crime
[02:23.000 --> 02:27.000]  or when thinking about sickos who actually do commit acts of murder and mayhem.
[02:27.000 --> 02:31.000]  Either way, the number 666 can help you remember that the Sixth Amendment
[02:31.000 --> 02:36.000]  deals with the constitutionally guaranteed rights Americans have in a criminal trial.
[02:36.000 --> 02:40.000]  Those include the right to a speedy public trial, the right to an impartial jury,
[02:40.000 --> 02:45.000]  the right to full information about the charges, the right to an attorney,
[02:45.000 --> 02:47.000]  and the right to confront any witnesses face to face.
[02:47.000 --> 02:52.000]  666, sick, sickos, and the Sixth Amendment. Get it?
[02:52.000 --> 03:11.000]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[03:22.000 --> 03:27.000]  What are you gonna do?
[03:27.000 --> 03:30.000]  Bad boys, bad boys, what are you gonna do?
[03:30.000 --> 03:32.000]  What are you gonna do when they come for you?
[03:32.000 --> 03:35.000]  Bad boys, bad boys, what are you gonna do?
[03:35.000 --> 03:38.000]  What are you gonna do when they come for you?
[03:38.000 --> 03:41.000]  When you were eight and you had bad traits,
[03:41.000 --> 03:43.000]  you'd go to school and learn the golden rule.
[03:43.000 --> 03:46.000]  So why are you acting like a bloody fool?
[03:46.000 --> 03:49.000]  If you get in your master's crew.
[03:49.000 --> 03:51.000]  Bad boys, bad boys, what are you gonna do?
[03:51.000 --> 03:54.000]  What are you gonna do when they come for you?
[03:54.000 --> 03:57.000]  Bad boys, bad boys, what are you gonna do?
[03:57.000 --> 04:00.000]  What are you gonna do when they come for you?
[04:00.000 --> 04:02.000]  You took it on that one. You took it on this one.
[04:02.000 --> 04:05.000]  You took it on your mother and you took it on your father.
[04:05.000 --> 04:08.000]  You took it on your brother and you took it on your sister.
[04:08.000 --> 04:09.000]  You took it on that one.
[04:09.000 --> 04:17.000]  Good evening. This is the Rule of Law Radio on Thursday, the 20th of October, 2022.
[04:17.000 --> 04:21.000]  And we don't have Randy with us this evening.
[04:21.000 --> 04:31.000]  So I'm gonna start out by just telling a few details on how you can help us help you.
[04:31.000 --> 04:33.000]  Let's put it like that.
[04:33.000 --> 04:38.000]  I get a lot of calls and a lot of people reaching out on different platforms
[04:38.000 --> 04:40.000]  and they're wanting some help,
[04:40.000 --> 04:45.000]  but they don't know what information I need to know up front in order to help them.
[04:45.000 --> 04:48.000]  So there's usually some extra back and forth.
[04:48.000 --> 04:51.000]  And hopefully people don't get too frustrated about that
[04:51.000 --> 04:58.000]  when they're in the middle of a difficult moment, a difficult situation.
[04:58.000 --> 05:02.000]  Sometimes it's stressful, right?
[05:02.000 --> 05:10.000]  Most of us have experienced how difficult it can be to try to convey to somebody else,
[05:10.000 --> 05:16.000]  especially somebody you don't even know, can't even see, and to try to convey what's going on.
[05:16.000 --> 05:21.000]  And a lot of times the things that get communicated are,
[05:21.000 --> 05:27.000]  I really wasn't going 110 miles an hour or,
[05:27.000 --> 05:30.000]  or, Audis, she attacked me first.
[05:30.000 --> 05:36.000]  Things that really can't get to the issue that we need to deal with.
[05:36.000 --> 05:44.000]  And there's a whole lot of, I guess, feeling or assumption
[05:44.000 --> 05:52.000]  that if we can just prove how wrong the other person was in whatever the situation was,
[05:52.000 --> 06:01.000]  then somehow, magically, the accusations against oneself would disappear.
[06:01.000 --> 06:07.000]  And nobody really logically thinks that through and comes to that conclusion and says it that way,
[06:07.000 --> 06:11.000]  but that's the sense that people tend to have.
[06:11.000 --> 06:13.000]  If you could just point the finger and say,
[06:13.000 --> 06:17.000]  look, they didn't even give me a chance, they kicked me off the property
[06:17.000 --> 06:21.000]  and didn't even give me a chance to wear the mask or whatever is the thing.
[06:21.000 --> 06:32.000]  And it takes some mental discipline to kind of sort through these various facts that don't get you anywhere
[06:32.000 --> 06:40.000]  and to instead begin to focus on what the real issues are,
[06:40.000 --> 06:43.000]  the issues that are going to get you some traction.
[06:43.000 --> 06:48.000]  And what those are relate to what the accusation is.
[06:48.000 --> 06:59.000]  So there are some step-by-step or maybe I should just say some basic things that I tend to ask people for.
[06:59.000 --> 07:02.000]  And let's just talk about some of those for a minute.
[07:02.000 --> 07:06.000]  I want you to give me just enough context.
[07:06.000 --> 07:11.000]  You don't need to give me a novel, just enough context.
[07:11.000 --> 07:14.000]  Hey, what's this about?
[07:14.000 --> 07:19.000]  I want to know some who, what, when and where basics,
[07:19.000 --> 07:27.000]  but I don't want to go off in the weeds about all this stuff that you can't look it up in the law
[07:27.000 --> 07:36.000]  and find here's the offense, here's what you're accused of, here are the controlling factors.
[07:36.000 --> 07:38.000]  We need to get to that part pretty quickly.
[07:38.000 --> 07:43.000]  And so if you can be succinct, then that really helps.
[07:43.000 --> 07:46.000]  So who, what, when and where?
[07:46.000 --> 07:48.000]  I want to know what do I call you?
[07:48.000 --> 07:54.000]  Sometimes people are really dodgy, they don't know who they can trust
[07:54.000 --> 07:58.000]  and they want to just go by a letter or something.
[07:58.000 --> 07:59.000]  Well, that's okay.
[07:59.000 --> 08:03.000]  But I want to have something that I can call you.
[08:03.000 --> 08:06.000]  It could be a nickname, first name, doesn't have to be your name, something.
[08:06.000 --> 08:13.000]  And are you asking about you yourself or if not you, what's your relationship?
[08:13.000 --> 08:16.000]  Are you asking for a friend, really for a friend?
[08:16.000 --> 08:19.000]  Are you asking because it's your daughter?
[08:19.000 --> 08:22.000]  Is your daughter a minor?
[08:22.000 --> 08:26.000]  Yes, she got into this traffic situation and this happened and that happened.
[08:26.000 --> 08:30.000]  Oh, well then maybe you can get your daughter to jump on Telegram
[08:30.000 --> 08:33.000]  or your daughter to send me an email and ask about this or that.
[08:33.000 --> 08:36.000]  Or we can do a, you know, put it three-way,
[08:36.000 --> 08:43.000]  send it up so that there's a communication that is more direct.
[08:43.000 --> 08:48.000]  But yeah, if it's you, if it's you're asking for your husband, your wife,
[08:48.000 --> 08:53.000]  it really helps to kind of paint the picture in a basic sort of way.
[08:53.000 --> 08:56.000]  And who's the opposing party?
[08:56.000 --> 08:59.000]  Another part of who is who's coming after you?
[08:59.000 --> 09:00.000]  Is somebody coming after you?
[09:00.000 --> 09:02.000]  You going after somebody else?
[09:02.000 --> 09:03.000]  Who is this?
[09:03.000 --> 09:09.000]  You're the landlord and one of your tenants is burning things in the backyard,
[09:09.000 --> 09:11.000]  causing trouble with the city.
[09:11.000 --> 09:14.000]  Who's the opposing party?
[09:14.000 --> 09:18.000]  So that little bit of basics helps with who.
[09:18.000 --> 09:20.000]  And if these are, if it's a traffic situation,
[09:20.000 --> 09:26.000]  you've got some police officers or deputy sheriffs or somebody,
[09:26.000 --> 09:29.000]  how many of them were there?
[09:29.000 --> 09:30.000]  Are we talking about one?
[09:30.000 --> 09:34.000]  Are we talking about there was one woman, she was the officer,
[09:34.000 --> 09:36.000]  she's a resting officer, she did this, this and this.
[09:36.000 --> 09:37.000]  Okay, great.
[09:37.000 --> 09:42.000]  Then we know that it's just her that we're talking about.
[09:42.000 --> 09:45.000]  Or if there was a group of seven of them, that makes a big difference.
[09:45.000 --> 09:50.000]  When you want to kind of figure out what's going on and begin to address it,
[09:50.000 --> 09:51.000]  that's great.
[09:51.000 --> 09:53.000]  That's part of who.
[09:53.000 --> 09:58.000]  And then moving on in the who, what, when, where.
[09:58.000 --> 10:02.000]  What is the nature and cause of this issue?
[10:02.000 --> 10:05.000]  Nature would be, is this a civil thing?
[10:05.000 --> 10:10.000]  You're like the neighborhood, you have your HOA.
[10:10.000 --> 10:13.000]  Is this a, are you suing somebody?
[10:13.000 --> 10:15.000]  Is somebody suing you?
[10:15.000 --> 10:18.000]  Is it a criminal issue?
[10:18.000 --> 10:22.000]  Traffic, depending on different states, I'll get to the where in just a moment,
[10:22.000 --> 10:30.000]  but depending on different states, traffic is treated as either a crime
[10:30.000 --> 10:34.000]  or as a suitable infraction.
[10:34.000 --> 10:38.000]  That's really good to know up front what we're dealing with because whole
[10:38.000 --> 10:45.000]  different sets of rules come into play on how you're going to respond to this.
[10:45.000 --> 10:46.000]  All right.
[10:46.000 --> 10:52.000]  So within, so that's the nature.
[10:52.000 --> 10:59.000]  The cause would be like somebody is accusing you of this particular crime,
[10:59.000 --> 11:03.000]  and it really helps to kind of get all of that up front as here's a little
[11:03.000 --> 11:05.000]  package of information that's actionable.
[11:05.000 --> 11:06.000]  We can work with this.
[11:06.000 --> 11:10.000]  When I read over it, or even if there have been 30 other people,
[11:10.000 --> 11:14.000]  and then I go back and I'm looking, what was this?
[11:14.000 --> 11:15.000]  Janet, Janet, Janet.
[11:15.000 --> 11:16.000]  What was it about, Janet?
[11:16.000 --> 11:18.000]  What did she need?
[11:18.000 --> 11:19.000]  And it helps.
[11:19.000 --> 11:21.000]  If it's all right there, it's really great.
[11:21.000 --> 11:24.000]  We can get back up to speed really quickly.
[11:24.000 --> 11:30.000]  If I gave Janet some homework, then we can see how far did she make it on
[11:30.000 --> 11:34.000]  whatever, collecting this record or that record.
[11:34.000 --> 11:39.000]  So yeah, anyway, nature and cause.
[11:39.000 --> 11:42.000]  One thing I like to ask, if there's a traffic citation,
[11:42.000 --> 11:50.000]  does it say on there that you need to appear in some court on or before?
[11:50.000 --> 11:52.000]  There's a phrase that will say on there,
[11:52.000 --> 11:54.000]  and usually connected with the citation,
[11:54.000 --> 12:00.000]  they like to tack on a promise to appear, or sometimes it's a notice to appear.
[12:00.000 --> 12:02.000]  And take a look at that.
[12:02.000 --> 12:05.000]  Just zoom in on it real quickly and figure out,
[12:05.000 --> 12:09.000]  does it say on or before a certain date or term,
[12:09.000 --> 12:12.000]  or does it say at a certain date or term?
[12:12.000 --> 12:16.000]  That can be helpful to figure out what's your next step.
[12:16.000 --> 12:20.000]  And what will happen if you don't do anything?
[12:20.000 --> 12:23.000]  Has something been threatened?
[12:23.000 --> 12:28.000]  Did you receive a letter that says you have 10 days to do such and such,
[12:28.000 --> 12:30.000]  or else this is going to happen?
[12:30.000 --> 12:33.000]  So that's good to know up front.
[12:33.000 --> 12:35.000]  What will happen?
[12:35.000 --> 12:41.000]  Another what is what outcome are you seeking?
[12:41.000 --> 12:53.000]  You in your heart of hearts have some kind of an idea of where you would like to go with this problem that you're presenting.
[12:53.000 --> 12:56.000]  And I don't know, we don't know, whoever wants to help you.
[12:56.000 --> 13:01.000]  We can't just guess, and necessarily we might not get it right.
[13:01.000 --> 13:04.000]  We don't know, do you just want this to go away?
[13:04.000 --> 13:06.000]  Some people are like, oh, this is so uncomfortable.
[13:06.000 --> 13:07.000]  I don't like it.
[13:07.000 --> 13:08.000]  I don't want it.
[13:08.000 --> 13:09.000]  I want it to go away.
[13:09.000 --> 13:11.000]  Well, does that mean you want to pay to make it go away?
[13:11.000 --> 13:12.000]  Well, sure.
[13:12.000 --> 13:13.000]  If I have to, okay.
[13:13.000 --> 13:18.000]  So then that puts you in a category of being able to have these options available to you.
[13:18.000 --> 13:21.000]  Somebody else might be operating on principle and say,
[13:21.000 --> 13:26.000]  I don't care that they'll dismiss everything and leave me alone for five bucks.
[13:26.000 --> 13:28.000]  I'm not doing it.
[13:28.000 --> 13:30.000]  It's just not right.
[13:30.000 --> 13:32.000]  I won't put up with it.
[13:32.000 --> 13:36.000]  Okay, so that helps to understand that up front
[13:36.000 --> 13:41.000]  and puts you in a category of which options are available to you there.
[13:41.000 --> 13:47.000]  All right, and the final what is what have you done so far?
[13:47.000 --> 13:50.000]  What actions have you taken?
[13:50.000 --> 13:53.000]  Did you already go down and see the court clerk?
[13:53.000 --> 13:57.000]  Did the court clerk talk you into signing something, entering a plea,
[13:57.000 --> 13:59.000]  even though they don't have any documents yet?
[13:59.000 --> 14:00.000]  Can you just go ahead and enter a plea?
[14:00.000 --> 14:04.000]  Oh, yeah, if you want to talk to the judge, you have to sign this.
[14:04.000 --> 14:07.000]  Well, it's really good to know that up front.
[14:07.000 --> 14:09.000]  And you come to me and you're looking for some help.
[14:09.000 --> 14:11.000]  I want to know what happened.
[14:11.000 --> 14:14.000]  Not just what happened on the side of the road
[14:14.000 --> 14:18.000]  or what happened in altercation in your yard,
[14:18.000 --> 14:22.000]  but what have you done about it so far?
[14:22.000 --> 14:27.000]  What's happened since the moment that's burned into your brain?
[14:27.000 --> 14:30.000]  Okay, so then we have when.
[14:30.000 --> 14:35.000]  You know, we talk a lot about timelines,
[14:35.000 --> 14:39.000]  and a comprehensive timeline would be amazing.
[14:39.000 --> 14:42.000]  That would be really great.
[14:42.000 --> 14:43.000]  Most people have trouble.
[14:43.000 --> 14:45.000]  That's like a big hurdle.
[14:45.000 --> 14:48.000]  And it's super helpful if you have it.
[14:48.000 --> 14:50.000]  It'll be helpful to you too.
[14:50.000 --> 14:52.000]  But at least if you don't have it yet,
[14:52.000 --> 14:57.000]  at least if you could tell me when the main event happened.
[14:57.000 --> 15:01.000]  There's some kind of occurrence that kicked everything off,
[15:01.000 --> 15:06.000]  lit the fuse, and everything after that is happening since then.
[15:06.000 --> 15:12.000]  So at least if you can identify when that was.
[15:12.000 --> 15:14.000]  Where?
[15:14.000 --> 15:17.000]  Where are you located?
[15:17.000 --> 15:19.000]  Where did the issue arise?
[15:19.000 --> 15:25.000]  I know it sounds basic and maybe even sounds trite to have to ask this,
[15:25.000 --> 15:30.000]  but a lot of times people will not bring this up,
[15:30.000 --> 15:33.000]  and there has to be a little bit of back and forth before they figure out,
[15:33.000 --> 15:37.000]  oh, well, yeah, I live in Arizona, but this happened in California.
[15:37.000 --> 15:40.000]  Well, then we need to pay attention to what the California laws
[15:40.000 --> 15:45.000]  and the California court rules say, and there's procedures that go in California.
[15:45.000 --> 15:49.000]  Does California consider this to be a crime or a civil matter,
[15:49.000 --> 15:52.000]  whereas in Arizona they might consider it the opposite?
[15:52.000 --> 15:57.000]  We have to figure that out just to determine what territorial jurisdictions
[15:57.000 --> 16:03.000]  will come into play and be able to apply the right laws,
[16:03.000 --> 16:07.000]  rules, statutes, codes, all of that.
[16:07.000 --> 16:11.000]  It also helps to know in this where,
[16:11.000 --> 16:15.000]  it helps to know if this happened a long way from your home,
[16:15.000 --> 16:19.000]  then that could kind of color how do you want to handle this
[16:19.000 --> 16:26.000]  because maybe it's not so convenient and easy for you to get to either the court,
[16:26.000 --> 16:30.000]  a court clerk, you need to ask some questions of people,
[16:30.000 --> 16:32.000]  which normally it's best to do in person,
[16:32.000 --> 16:37.000]  but if you live 400 miles away, maybe we could figure out ways to do that
[16:37.000 --> 16:43.000]  that doesn't involve your unnecessary travel expenses and all that.
[16:43.000 --> 16:49.000]  So that's kind of hitting the high points there of how you can help us help you.
[16:49.000 --> 16:55.000]  Hopefully that is helpful, and we'll be right back after these sponsors.
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[19:27.000 --> 19:29.000]  This is the Rule of Law Radio, Randy Kelton.
[19:29.000 --> 19:36.000]  I'm Brett Fountain, and this is the 20th of October, Thursday evening, October 2022.
[19:36.000 --> 19:42.000]  I've opened up the phone lines, and let's see.
[19:42.000 --> 19:47.000]  One other thing that I probably would like to mention about helping you,
[19:47.000 --> 19:52.000]  help yourself, actually, is about timelines.
[19:52.000 --> 19:54.000]  We talk a lot about timelines, right?
[19:54.000 --> 19:58.000]  Well, it's kind of difficult for people.
[19:58.000 --> 20:01.000]  It's a mental obstacle as well, and I get it.
[20:01.000 --> 20:04.000]  I've had a hard time with it myself.
[20:04.000 --> 20:10.000]  You have to kind of relive things, go through and remember
[20:10.000 --> 20:13.000]  all of the uncomfortable things that happened.
[20:13.000 --> 20:15.000]  Yeah, threw me on the ground, dragged me through the glass.
[20:15.000 --> 20:17.000]  That was horrible.
[20:17.000 --> 20:20.000]  And then they wanted to do a full-body search, all orifices.
[20:20.000 --> 20:23.000]  This is crazy. It's way out of control.
[20:23.000 --> 20:24.000]  What in the world?
[20:24.000 --> 20:26.000]  And it's really bad.
[20:26.000 --> 20:29.000]  It's hard to do that, memory-wise.
[20:29.000 --> 20:35.000]  Well, let me just speak to a few simple things you can consider
[20:35.000 --> 20:41.000]  in putting timelines together, simple timelines.
[20:41.000 --> 20:47.000]  First, let me tell you about each entry you're going to make,
[20:47.000 --> 20:50.000]  and then we'll talk about the sources.
[20:50.000 --> 20:56.000]  So each entry is simply going to have date and time.
[20:56.000 --> 20:59.000]  You might think of it simply like subject-verb-object.
[20:59.000 --> 21:01.000]  Think of what happened.
[21:01.000 --> 21:03.000]  Don't put a lot of detail into it.
[21:03.000 --> 21:05.000]  This is not a place for paragraphs.
[21:05.000 --> 21:09.000]  This is a place for even smaller than a tweet.
[21:09.000 --> 21:15.000]  This is really just a brief, tiny little headline.
[21:15.000 --> 21:26.000]  And you want to say, I filed an objection to whatever, and just tiny.
[21:26.000 --> 21:30.000]  I raised an exception to the charging instrument.
[21:30.000 --> 21:33.000]  So those kinds of things and put a date and time in front of it.
[21:33.000 --> 21:35.000]  If there's a document that's associated with that,
[21:35.000 --> 21:41.000]  then you might make a note of the document ID.
[21:41.000 --> 21:46.000]  I think about putting IDs on all of my documents.
[21:46.000 --> 21:55.000]  And you might also note sometimes these lawyers are sneaky, sly, slimy.
[21:55.000 --> 21:56.000]  I know.
[21:56.000 --> 22:00.000]  You're not going to believe it, but sometimes they will send you something.
[22:00.000 --> 22:04.000]  And let's say it says on the document, you open up the letter,
[22:04.000 --> 22:10.000]  and it says right there at the top of the document, October 7.
[22:10.000 --> 22:17.000]  But then you look at the postmark on the envelope, and it says October 14.
[22:17.000 --> 22:26.000]  Well, surely the envelope didn't come later than the document that was inside it.
[22:26.000 --> 22:31.000]  So when I make a timeline entry, if there's a discrepancy like that,
[22:31.000 --> 22:34.000]  I like to make a note of it right there.
[22:34.000 --> 22:41.000]  I would say one might be that I received the document, and the other would say the date on the document.
[22:41.000 --> 22:46.000]  Or you could put them in together as one line and just put in parentheses,
[22:46.000 --> 22:49.000]  October 14 received such and such document.
[22:49.000 --> 22:53.000]  And then in parentheses, you would say dated October 7.
[22:53.000 --> 22:59.000]  Just barely enough where you look across it, you can scan and scan very easily.
[22:59.000 --> 23:01.000]  It's lightweight mentally.
[23:01.000 --> 23:06.000]  You don't have a lot of heavy-duty text and adjectives about how terrible you felt
[23:06.000 --> 23:10.000]  and how rude the person was to you, none of that.
[23:10.000 --> 23:12.000]  Just super tiny.
[23:12.000 --> 23:17.000]  Okay, that's each entry, and that's really all there is to it.
[23:17.000 --> 23:20.000]  Every entry should just be tiny like that.
[23:20.000 --> 23:26.000]  Now, here are some places where you're going to get the information to make these entries.
[23:26.000 --> 23:29.000]  One source would be the court clerk.
[23:29.000 --> 23:33.000]  The court clerk is the keeper of the record.
[23:33.000 --> 23:37.000]  Some call it the file or the court record.
[23:37.000 --> 23:41.000]  It's the official court record of whatever this matter is about.
[23:41.000 --> 23:45.000]  Regardless of who started it, you're the plaintiff, you're the defendant,
[23:45.000 --> 23:51.000]  you're the accused of some crime, you're the petitioner, whatever the situation is,
[23:51.000 --> 23:58.000]  the court clerk has indexed these documents and is keeping them in a folder,
[23:58.000 --> 24:02.000]  whether that's digitally or physically.
[24:02.000 --> 24:06.000]  They have everything, and that's a great starting place.
[24:06.000 --> 24:08.000]  Go inspect the record.
[24:08.000 --> 24:11.000]  If there's anything in there that you don't recognize or you think,
[24:11.000 --> 24:17.000]  oh, I don't have a copy of that, or if you've been completely living on another planet
[24:17.000 --> 24:22.000]  and not taking care of your papers at all, then just get a copy of whatever they've got
[24:22.000 --> 24:24.000]  and start from there.
[24:24.000 --> 24:28.000]  Okay, and I don't say that in a rude way.
[24:28.000 --> 24:34.000]  I recognize that there's something, I don't know if it's a denial thing,
[24:34.000 --> 24:38.000]  Randy could probably identify that, but there's something where we're having
[24:38.000 --> 24:42.000]  so much trouble, it's so uncomfortable, we don't know what to do about it,
[24:42.000 --> 24:43.000]  and we're just frustrated.
[24:43.000 --> 24:49.000]  We throw up our arms and we don't keep track of the papers that went with it.
[24:49.000 --> 24:55.000]  So, yeah, that's a good first source is the court clerk.
[24:55.000 --> 25:00.000]  And another source would be video and audio recordings.
[25:00.000 --> 25:03.000]  Maybe you recorded the incident on your phone,
[25:03.000 --> 25:10.000]  so you can use that as an additional source to build up your timeline.
[25:10.000 --> 25:18.000]  Oh, I delivered this and then she said that, or I was already off of their property by then.
[25:18.000 --> 25:22.000]  All of these kinds of little things that you notice in a video recording
[25:22.000 --> 25:26.000]  or an audio recording that will help you to set things up
[25:26.000 --> 25:31.000]  and dovetail nicely in your timeline.
[25:31.000 --> 25:37.000]  Another source is your physical papers, things that got mailed to you,
[25:37.000 --> 25:41.000]  maybe a note got stuck to your door by the landlord, whatever.
[25:41.000 --> 25:48.000]  These physical documents are another source of you putting things into your timeline.
[25:48.000 --> 25:55.000]  Take each one of those, whether you snap a photo of it or you scan it or digitize in some way,
[25:55.000 --> 26:01.000]  that would be great, but at least if you can reference it in your timeline
[26:01.000 --> 26:05.000]  and say here's where it belongs, you put a pin on the time continuum.
[26:05.000 --> 26:12.000]  Okay, another source is your documents. Go look at your computer file system,
[26:12.000 --> 26:17.000]  look at your electronic documents, and each one of those,
[26:17.000 --> 26:21.000]  make sure that you have an entry, a mention of it on your timeline somewhere.
[26:21.000 --> 26:23.000]  This is when I sent this.
[26:23.000 --> 26:29.000]  It's helpful if you have like subject-verb-object, if you mention who you sent it to.
[26:29.000 --> 26:35.000]  Well, I sent it to the court clerk and I sent a copy of it to that prosecutor.
[26:35.000 --> 26:39.000]  Great, now you have it nicely documented in your timeline.
[26:39.000 --> 26:43.000]  It's super easy for somebody that wants to help you to take a look at that timeline and go,
[26:43.000 --> 26:49.000]  oh good, you did send this, you filed that, that really helps.
[26:49.000 --> 26:54.000]  And the last one, I would say the last source for this timeline would be your memory.
[26:54.000 --> 27:00.000]  And that will kind of happen naturally as you pull in from these other sources.
[27:00.000 --> 27:05.000]  You will just naturally say, oh, that's when I did this.
[27:05.000 --> 27:08.000]  And you'll just go ahead and type it in or write it down.
[27:08.000 --> 27:13.000]  If you're doing a paper timeline, I don't know, but there we go.
[27:13.000 --> 27:20.000]  That's some basics on how you can sort of do simple timelines for the win.
[27:20.000 --> 27:27.000]  But then it becomes so complicated that it's daunting and becomes this formidable task that you never actually do.
[27:27.000 --> 27:33.000]  Instead, keep it simple and that way maybe it can actually happen.
[27:33.000 --> 27:37.000]  All right, we do have some callers that are stacking up here in our caller queue.
[27:37.000 --> 27:44.000]  So I will go ahead and switch gears and let's go talk with Jason in Wisconsin.
[27:44.000 --> 27:46.000]  Good evening, Jason.
[27:46.000 --> 27:48.000]  Hey, how's it going?
[27:48.000 --> 27:50.000]  Going pretty well.
[27:50.000 --> 27:52.000]  How about you?
[27:52.000 --> 27:54.000]  I'm going all right.
[27:54.000 --> 28:01.000]  So I don't know if you remember my whole situation or how much you want me to refresh your memory here.
[28:01.000 --> 28:06.000]  Yeah, let's just say you're going to refresh all of the callers' memory,
[28:06.000 --> 28:11.000]  and then I'll see if maybe my memory needs some jogging too.
[28:11.000 --> 28:18.000]  All right, so back in June, I was in a traffic stop,
[28:18.000 --> 28:26.000]  and I was issued a citation for unsafe cutting while passing and a warning for speeding.
[28:26.000 --> 28:30.000]  Ah, yeah.
[28:30.000 --> 28:36.000]  And then, yeah, skipping over a bunch of the little details here.
[28:36.000 --> 28:39.000]  I had my pre-trial conference for that,
[28:39.000 --> 28:42.000]  the district attorney went to the state patrol
[28:42.000 --> 28:46.000]  and asked them to turn the speeding warning into a citation.
[28:46.000 --> 28:51.000]  So that's essentially where I'm at right now.
[28:51.000 --> 28:54.000]  Okay, I think that's the same place you were at, right?
[28:54.000 --> 28:57.000]  When we talked last, that's...
[28:57.000 --> 29:02.000]  Yeah, a couple more developments that happened in the last couple days here though.
[29:02.000 --> 29:03.000]  Okay, what's that?
[29:03.000 --> 29:08.000]  I had my pre-trial conference yesterday for the speeding citation,
[29:08.000 --> 29:12.000]  and he offered me what sounded like a pretty decent deal,
[29:12.000 --> 29:17.000]  but I don't think I'm going to take it.
[29:17.000 --> 29:19.000]  What do you mean? Why not?
[29:19.000 --> 29:24.000]  A decent deal means you consider it reasonable?
[29:24.000 --> 29:26.000]  Well, at first it sounded reasonable,
[29:26.000 --> 29:30.000]  but then I thought about it more, and I mean it's...
[29:30.000 --> 29:34.000]  So what he offered me is he...
[29:34.000 --> 29:37.000]  I hear the music.
[29:37.000 --> 29:40.000]  I'm going to wait until after the break to get into it.
[29:40.000 --> 29:46.000]  That's okay, we'll get into there in 15 seconds.
[29:46.000 --> 29:48.000]  He offered you a deal.
[29:48.000 --> 29:50.000]  You don't think you're going to take it?
[29:50.000 --> 29:52.000]  And I guess we'll hear...
[29:52.000 --> 29:57.000]  On the other side we'll talk some more about why you thought it was reasonable,
[29:57.000 --> 29:59.000]  but you're not quite going to take it after all.
[29:59.000 --> 30:02.000]  All right, we'll be right back.
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[33:28.000 --> 33:30.000]  Okay, we are back.
[33:30.000 --> 33:35.000]  This is the Rule of Law Radio, Randy Kelton, I'm Brett Fountain.
[33:35.000 --> 33:40.000]  We actually don't have Randy with us this evening.
[33:40.000 --> 33:43.000]  Hopefully, he'll be with us tomorrow evening.
[33:43.000 --> 33:48.000]  Actually, I didn't think to ask him that, but he's not able to do it tonight.
[33:48.000 --> 33:52.000]  And we're speaking with Jason in Wisconsin.
[33:52.000 --> 33:57.000]  Jason, just right before we went out, you were describing that you have
[33:57.000 --> 33:59.000]  a prosecutor offered you a deal.
[33:59.000 --> 34:02.000]  It was a decent deal, but the more you thought about it,
[34:02.000 --> 34:04.000]  you're thinking maybe you're not going to take it after all.
[34:04.000 --> 34:07.000]  Tell us more about that.
[34:07.000 --> 34:12.000]  Yeah, I guess let me start by laying out what I'm facing here,
[34:12.000 --> 34:14.000]  if I'm found guilty on both of those.
[34:14.000 --> 34:22.000]  So on the unsafe cutting, I'm facing a $200 fine and three points on my driver's license.
[34:22.000 --> 34:26.000]  For the speeding, it's 16 to 19 miles an hour over.
[34:26.000 --> 34:30.000]  I'm facing a $200 fine and four points on my driver's license.
[34:30.000 --> 34:35.000]  What he offered me was to dismiss the unsafe cutting
[34:35.000 --> 34:38.000]  and drop the speeding down to one to 10 miles over,
[34:38.000 --> 34:43.000]  which would be a $175 fine and three points on my driver's license.
[34:43.000 --> 34:47.000]  So on the surface, it sounded like it sounded more reasonable
[34:47.000 --> 34:50.000]  than I thought he was going to offer me, first of all.
[34:50.000 --> 34:54.000]  And on the surface, it sounded reasonable, and then I started to think about it.
[34:54.000 --> 34:59.000]  Like, wait a minute, I started out facing a $200 fine and three points.
[34:59.000 --> 35:02.000]  And so basically, I'm only saving $25 on this deal.
[35:02.000 --> 35:04.000]  You know what I'm saying?
[35:04.000 --> 35:05.000]  Oh, got you.
[35:05.000 --> 35:08.000]  So are you thinking that you would like to make a counter offer,
[35:08.000 --> 35:16.000]  or are you thinking that you would like to kind of gamble with your, just stick it to them?
[35:16.000 --> 35:17.000]  It doesn't matter really.
[35:17.000 --> 35:26.000]  If you're going to go and try to get, let's say, a positive ruling in your favor,
[35:26.000 --> 35:30.000]  it might be a long hike.
[35:30.000 --> 35:35.000]  Sometimes it works out that way, but it depends on who the people are.
[35:35.000 --> 35:38.000]  You know, that judge is a person.
[35:38.000 --> 35:41.000]  And unpredictable, the prosecutor too.
[35:41.000 --> 35:49.000]  You don't know who exactly is going to be receptive to the law, respect the law.
[35:49.000 --> 35:52.000]  Pretty often, they don't seem to have enough of that.
[35:52.000 --> 36:02.000]  So it can take some effort to, let's just say, call other people's attention to their indiscretions,
[36:02.000 --> 36:10.000]  and things can easily blow up out of proportion, become a hassle for you to keep up with.
[36:10.000 --> 36:17.000]  I don't know how much of that you're up for and how much of that you're looking for, looking for a deal.
[36:17.000 --> 36:24.000]  Do you want to cause trouble for them because of their lawlessness?
[36:24.000 --> 36:30.000]  And then you just, you don't care about the points and the dollars?
[36:30.000 --> 36:32.000]  Or where are you on that spectrum?
[36:32.000 --> 36:37.000]  That's kind of where I am actually, because without getting into a lot of detail,
[36:37.000 --> 36:40.000]  maybe I'll call back some other time and get into it.
[36:40.000 --> 36:45.000]  My neighbor was railroaded by the same court and ended up spending six months in jail because of it.
[36:45.000 --> 36:50.000]  And yeah, they've been doing stuff to a lot of people that I know of,
[36:50.000 --> 36:54.000]  so it's kind of more than just the money and the points.
[36:54.000 --> 37:01.000]  That being said, I agreed with the district attorney that I'd call them tomorrow
[37:01.000 --> 37:04.000]  and let them know if I was going to take that deal or not.
[37:04.000 --> 37:10.000]  And I was considering trying to make some sort of counteroffer where there would be no points,
[37:10.000 --> 37:14.000]  but I'm not sure if I want to do that or not yet.
[37:14.000 --> 37:21.000]  And there is another big issue here I need to get to that I need to address tomorrow.
[37:21.000 --> 37:27.000]  I filed a motion for adjournment and I got my answer today,
[37:27.000 --> 37:32.000]  conveniently the day after my pre-trial conference from the circuit court judge,
[37:32.000 --> 37:34.000]  and he denied my request.
[37:34.000 --> 37:37.000]  So now I have one week left before the trial date.
[37:37.000 --> 37:41.000]  So I'm trying to figure out what to do with that.
[37:41.000 --> 37:47.000]  Do you know if Wisconsin has...
[37:47.000 --> 37:54.000]  when they set you up for a jury trial in Texas,
[37:54.000 --> 38:01.000]  the defendant can waive a jury trial and when that happens,
[38:01.000 --> 38:08.000]  the judge shall do the trial from the bench.
[38:08.000 --> 38:14.000]  Some states make it where you have to get agreement from the prosecutor
[38:14.000 --> 38:20.000]  or the court has to approve the waiver.
[38:20.000 --> 38:23.000]  The way it works here for traffic cases,
[38:23.000 --> 38:28.000]  I believe you have to request a jury trial within 10 days of the offense.
[38:28.000 --> 38:39.000]  So that's pretty limited as far as a jury trial goes.
[38:39.000 --> 38:43.000]  Do you mean they don't just automatically give you a jury trial
[38:43.000 --> 38:45.000]  and then you have to opt out of it?
[38:45.000 --> 38:48.000]  They start with it's going to be a bench trial?
[38:48.000 --> 38:49.000]  Yep.
[38:49.000 --> 38:50.000]  Okay.
[38:50.000 --> 38:51.000]  And then how do you get a jury trial?
[38:51.000 --> 38:53.000]  Right on the site.
[38:53.000 --> 38:56.000]  But if you haven't said anything within 10 days,
[38:56.000 --> 38:58.000]  do you still have a right to a jury trial?
[38:58.000 --> 39:01.000]  Do they have allowance for that?
[39:01.000 --> 39:07.000]  I don't see that anywhere that I've found.
[39:07.000 --> 39:10.000]  Okay.
[39:10.000 --> 39:13.000]  But it sounds like you really don't want the trial anyway.
[39:13.000 --> 39:16.000]  You want to, if I'm hearing you correctly,
[39:16.000 --> 39:19.000]  you want to find a way to not have a trial.
[39:19.000 --> 39:22.000]  Is that what I'm hearing?
[39:22.000 --> 39:24.000]  I mean, I don't mind having a trial.
[39:24.000 --> 39:26.000]  I'm just not ready for it yet.
[39:26.000 --> 39:28.000]  I've been dealing with some health issues.
[39:28.000 --> 39:32.000]  I had surgery about two months ago and I've been recovering from that.
[39:32.000 --> 39:34.000]  That's why I filed the motion for adjournment.
[39:34.000 --> 39:37.000]  And I'm thinking maybe I didn't put enough details in there
[39:37.000 --> 39:43.000]  because the denial request says the court accommodated your initial request
[39:43.000 --> 39:44.000]  for an adjournment.
[39:44.000 --> 39:49.000]  However, absent more information is disinclined to further delay the proceeding.
[39:49.000 --> 39:54.000]  So to me, that kind of something, they're asking for more information.
[39:54.000 --> 39:56.000]  Yeah.
[39:56.000 --> 39:57.000]  Yeah, it does.
[39:57.000 --> 40:04.000]  But you could also, you could move that court to reconsider your request
[40:04.000 --> 40:11.000]  and in that motion to reconsider, you're providing some more information.
[40:11.000 --> 40:13.000]  So I'd file a motion to reconsider
[40:13.000 --> 40:19.000]  and provide more details like say, okay, I had surgery on this date
[40:19.000 --> 40:25.000]  and this is normal recovery time for it and that type of stuff.
[40:25.000 --> 40:33.000]  Should I include any, like, evidence proving that I had the surgery?
[40:33.000 --> 40:34.000]  Yeah, it couldn't hurt.
[40:34.000 --> 40:38.000]  I wouldn't have thought of that myself, but I think that probably makes sense.
[40:38.000 --> 40:41.000]  The only issue with that is I had some documents I gave to work
[40:41.000 --> 40:43.000]  because I had to take a few weeks off of work for it
[40:43.000 --> 40:47.000]  and it says that the recovery time is like four to six weeks.
[40:47.000 --> 40:50.000]  However, I can, I'm to the point where I can go back to work,
[40:50.000 --> 40:54.000]  but, you know, I have nothing left by the time I'm done with work
[40:54.000 --> 40:57.000]  and I can't sit down and work on my case or anything like that.
[40:57.000 --> 40:58.000]  You know what I'm saying?
[40:58.000 --> 41:02.000]  I'm fucking starting to recover now, but...
[41:02.000 --> 41:03.000]  Yeah, don't worry about work.
[41:03.000 --> 41:04.000]  They're not dealing with work.
[41:04.000 --> 41:09.000]  They're dealing with the fact that you had surgery.
[41:09.000 --> 41:13.000]  So I'm wondering, should I just give them documents stating what surgery I had
[41:13.000 --> 41:16.000]  and don't give them anything saying what the recovery time is
[41:16.000 --> 41:18.000]  or how should I deal with that?
[41:18.000 --> 41:20.000]  Oh, I would definitely say what the recovery time is.
[41:20.000 --> 41:23.000]  I would say here's what the typical recovery time is
[41:23.000 --> 41:27.000]  and here's what the doctor told me and put that in there
[41:27.000 --> 41:33.000]  and then ask for a date that's just outside of that.
[41:33.000 --> 41:36.000]  You know, you're not asking for six months down the road.
[41:36.000 --> 41:39.000]  You're asking for that amount of time,
[41:39.000 --> 41:45.000]  and then, you know, go ahead and schedule it right after that ends.
[41:45.000 --> 41:46.000]  So, yeah.
[41:46.000 --> 41:47.000]  Let's see.
[41:47.000 --> 41:50.000]  It's already been about six weeks after I had the surgery
[41:50.000 --> 41:55.000]  and they say the normal recovery time is like three to four weeks.
[41:55.000 --> 41:56.000]  Oh, okay.
[41:56.000 --> 42:01.000]  That's probably not going to get you anywhere.
[42:01.000 --> 42:04.000]  But there are people, I guess, that takes longer to recover,
[42:04.000 --> 42:08.000]  so if I can get some documentation of that, I don't know.
[42:08.000 --> 42:11.000]  Yeah, that sounds like the way to go.
[42:11.000 --> 42:16.000]  Yeah, if you stick with the six-week thing, it's already been that.
[42:16.000 --> 42:21.000]  Okay, so it seems like that's a better plan.
[42:21.000 --> 42:24.000]  Yeah, I'm kind of thinking I'd like to get something done tonight
[42:24.000 --> 42:26.000]  and get it ready to file first thing in the morning
[42:26.000 --> 42:30.000]  since I only have like a week left here.
[42:30.000 --> 42:35.000]  So I'm kind of limited on the documents I can get until tomorrow.
[42:35.000 --> 42:40.000]  What is it I'm wondering about this trial?
[42:40.000 --> 42:45.000]  If you had an extra week, if they gave you an extra week, an extra two weeks,
[42:45.000 --> 42:49.000]  what else would you feel like you're needing to do
[42:49.000 --> 42:54.000]  in that time that you're not able to do right now?
[42:54.000 --> 42:59.000]  Well, other than file a bunch of bar agreements, criminal complaints,
[42:59.000 --> 43:02.000]  type of stuff against the district attorney, which I haven't got to yet,
[43:02.000 --> 43:05.000]  which I wish I would have,
[43:05.000 --> 43:10.000]  I need to learn how to get prepared to actually go to trial
[43:10.000 --> 43:14.000]  and what type of defense I need to prepare.
[43:14.000 --> 43:17.000]  I know I'm pretty sure I have a good defense on the merits,
[43:17.000 --> 43:21.000]  but I'm not sure if I should even go there.
[43:21.000 --> 43:24.000]  Well, you try to not go to the merits, but you want to set yourself up
[43:24.000 --> 43:28.000]  for hope for the best and plan for the worst, right?
[43:28.000 --> 43:33.000]  So you want to be able to win on the merits if you do end up getting pushed there,
[43:33.000 --> 43:38.000]  and you try to do up front some things to make sure you don't need to go there.
[43:38.000 --> 43:42.000]  I would like to ask you about discovery,
[43:42.000 --> 43:44.000]  and after we come back from the sponsors,
[43:44.000 --> 43:48.000]  I want to ask you about discovery and the time period of that
[43:48.000 --> 43:53.000]  and what you've done already and whether or not that hospital time
[43:53.000 --> 43:56.000]  may have impacted your ability to conduct discovery.
[43:56.000 --> 43:59.000]  Indeed. Right back after this one.
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[46:41.000 --> 46:47.000]  This is the Rule of Law Radio on Thursday, October the 20th, 2022.
[46:47.000 --> 46:50.000]  And we're talking with Jason in Wisconsin,
[46:50.000 --> 46:55.000]  and Jason is looking for a way to extend his time.
[46:55.000 --> 46:57.000]  They're setting him up for trial.
[46:57.000 --> 46:59.000]  It's coming down hot and heavy,
[46:59.000 --> 47:03.000]  and he's wanting to see if there's any way to extend that time.
[47:03.000 --> 47:07.000]  Jason, you said that you were...
[47:07.000 --> 47:12.000]  six weeks ago, I believe you said, was your surgery,
[47:12.000 --> 47:17.000]  and that would have been an ideal time for you to be conducting discovery.
[47:17.000 --> 47:21.000]  Were you able to do that?
[47:21.000 --> 47:23.000]  For a few weeks after the surgery,
[47:23.000 --> 47:27.000]  I wasn't able to really sit at the computer or do anything like that.
[47:27.000 --> 47:29.000]  I was having a difficult time with that.
[47:29.000 --> 47:32.000]  And I should add, before the surgery,
[47:32.000 --> 47:37.000]  the problem I had the surgery for was causing me to be in such severe pain.
[47:37.000 --> 47:39.000]  I couldn't do anything.
[47:39.000 --> 47:43.000]  So, you know, from June all the way up until that time,
[47:43.000 --> 47:48.000]  I couldn't get much done for my case, basically.
[47:48.000 --> 47:54.000]  Okay. Well, I think that is your ideal place to focus.
[47:54.000 --> 48:00.000]  In your motion to reconsider this extension of time you were asking for,
[48:00.000 --> 48:03.000]  in your motion to reconsider, you're going to have to say why.
[48:03.000 --> 48:07.000]  You have to put some bullet points, some grounds, they call it, some reasons.
[48:07.000 --> 48:12.000]  Why should you get to have more time and keep the court's docket full?
[48:12.000 --> 48:14.000]  They want to get rid of things, right?
[48:14.000 --> 48:18.000]  They want everybody to plead guilty and go away.
[48:18.000 --> 48:20.000]  And that's their pattern that they're used to.
[48:20.000 --> 48:23.000]  If they could just get somebody to go off on that little side room
[48:23.000 --> 48:26.000]  and chat with the prosecutor, then they're going to wheel a deal
[48:26.000 --> 48:29.000]  and come up with something that gets everything off the docket.
[48:29.000 --> 48:31.000]  The court doesn't have to address it.
[48:31.000 --> 48:38.000]  So they really want this to not be delayed and delayed, at least not for you.
[48:38.000 --> 48:39.000]  You're a pro se.
[48:39.000 --> 48:42.000]  They'll delay it all kinds of times.
[48:42.000 --> 48:45.000]  If the prosecutor wants to delay, they'll be happy to do that.
[48:45.000 --> 48:49.000]  But this is an unrepresented accused.
[48:49.000 --> 48:52.000]  They don't necessarily want to give you any more time.
[48:52.000 --> 48:57.000]  Heck, you might figure out how to formulate a defense and actually win.
[48:57.000 --> 48:59.000]  They don't want you to have more time.
[48:59.000 --> 49:08.000]  They want you to be pressed and not have a chance to find a strategy.
[49:08.000 --> 49:12.000]  But they won't say it in that many words.
[49:12.000 --> 49:20.000]  And if you clearly identify that, hey, I had this surgery.
[49:20.000 --> 49:25.000]  During the time leading up to the surgery, I was in extreme pain.
[49:25.000 --> 49:29.000]  And the recovery time after the surgery, I needed to do discovery
[49:29.000 --> 49:31.000]  and was unable to begin discovery.
[49:31.000 --> 49:36.000]  I am only just now recovering to the point that I can think straight
[49:36.000 --> 49:43.000]  and begin to put together some responsive paperwork for this issue.
[49:43.000 --> 49:48.000]  And, you know, write it in a way that makes it look like you're not just blowing it off,
[49:48.000 --> 49:57.000]  but you're giving full attention and respect to the level that you could,
[49:57.000 --> 50:02.000]  which was nothing while you were in surgery and recovering from surgery.
[50:02.000 --> 50:04.000]  And so you need to do discovery.
[50:04.000 --> 50:10.000]  You need to be able to formulate a defense based on the discovery responses.
[50:10.000 --> 50:17.000]  So I think if you can spin it like that.
[50:17.000 --> 50:18.000]  Go ahead.
[50:18.000 --> 50:23.000]  The thing with discovery is it's very limited in traffic cases in Wisconsin.
[50:23.000 --> 50:31.000]  You can only request records from, I believe, radar guns and breathalyzers
[50:31.000 --> 50:36.000]  up to 10 days after the offense, and then that's basically it for discovery.
[50:36.000 --> 50:41.000]  What's that?
[50:41.000 --> 50:42.000]  That's crazy.
[50:42.000 --> 50:48.000]  Okay, so are they treating it like a crime?
[50:48.000 --> 50:50.000]  No, it's civil.
[50:50.000 --> 50:52.000]  Okay.
[50:52.000 --> 50:56.000]  So they've got some patterns worked out for that.
[50:56.000 --> 51:01.000]  I don't know if you remember on Friday when I called them when I was talking about
[51:01.000 --> 51:03.000]  my open records request with the district attorney
[51:03.000 --> 51:08.000]  and how in the response they labeled it as a discovery request.
[51:08.000 --> 51:09.000]  Oh, right.
[51:09.000 --> 51:10.000]  Okay.
[51:10.000 --> 51:12.000]  Yeah, I remember that happened with somebody.
[51:12.000 --> 51:13.000]  I didn't connect the dots.
[51:13.000 --> 51:14.000]  Cool.
[51:14.000 --> 51:21.000]  Yeah, so basically I was using that as a, well, partially as another form of discovery.
[51:21.000 --> 51:26.000]  I also asked for other public records not completely related to my case.
[51:26.000 --> 51:33.000]  Yeah, they basically gave me nothing I asked for, and this might be another option I have.
[51:33.000 --> 51:41.000]  According to the open records statute, if my request is denied or not responded to,
[51:41.000 --> 51:44.000]  I can file a mandamus.
[51:44.000 --> 51:46.000]  Very cool.
[51:46.000 --> 51:52.000]  And I found a template online that's specifically for filing a mandamus in Wisconsin
[51:52.000 --> 51:54.000]  for specifically this type of thing.
[51:54.000 --> 51:57.000]  So it wouldn't be a whole lot of work if I could get it done this week if I had to.
[51:57.000 --> 51:58.000]  Beautiful.
[51:58.000 --> 52:00.000]  Yes.
[52:00.000 --> 52:04.000]  But I'm wondering if I should go both routes at the same time, you know,
[52:04.000 --> 52:07.000]  file the motion for reconsideration and do that.
[52:07.000 --> 52:09.000]  Oh, yeah, absolutely.
[52:09.000 --> 52:13.000]  Yeah, because they could still come back and say no, and then what?
[52:13.000 --> 52:15.000]  You haven't got started yet on any of the rest of it?
[52:15.000 --> 52:18.000]  No, really, go ahead and do everything you can.
[52:18.000 --> 52:24.000]  No reason to not work on multiple fronts there.
[52:24.000 --> 52:30.000]  There's an issue of applicability of the regulatory scheme,
[52:30.000 --> 52:36.000]  and I don't know to what extent you've studied that or you're familiar with that,
[52:36.000 --> 52:46.000]  but state troopers have the authorization to enforce transportation code,
[52:46.000 --> 52:53.000]  and that's not the case with all other officers that are not state troopers.
[52:53.000 --> 53:02.000]  They may have been given statutorily access to certain subsets to enforce under certain conditions,
[53:02.000 --> 53:07.000]  and I don't know if you've looked into that or if you would like to drill into that,
[53:07.000 --> 53:09.000]  because then the whole thing doesn't apply at all.
[53:09.000 --> 53:13.000]  There's no such thing as speeding unless you're one of the people
[53:13.000 --> 53:18.000]  to whom that regulatory scheme can be lawfully applied.
[53:18.000 --> 53:20.000]  Does that make sense?
[53:20.000 --> 53:24.000]  Yeah, I have looked into that, and that's another road I can go down,
[53:24.000 --> 53:28.000]  but I guess right now I'm looking at the short term here, you know,
[53:28.000 --> 53:36.000]  what I can do to delay my trial date so I have time to work on all this other stuff.
[53:36.000 --> 53:40.000]  I thought you had filed that mandamus a week or whenever ago.
[53:40.000 --> 53:46.000]  We spoke maybe a week ago, and I thought you were doing that mandamus.
[53:46.000 --> 53:48.000]  No, because when I talked to you guys,
[53:48.000 --> 53:51.000]  I had just got the letter from the district attorney,
[53:51.000 --> 53:54.000]  basically the response to my open records request,
[53:54.000 --> 54:00.000]  and the statute says that for every part of your request they deny,
[54:00.000 --> 54:03.000]  they have to do it in writing and give you a reason why,
[54:03.000 --> 54:11.000]  and none of that stuff is in writing, so I have a clear case there, I guess.
[54:11.000 --> 54:13.000]  Yeah, exactly.
[54:13.000 --> 54:17.000]  And I did have a discussion with the district attorney's paralegal,
[54:17.000 --> 54:21.000]  which I recorded, and she told me flat out,
[54:21.000 --> 54:30.000]  this is our response to your open records request, so I have that on record.
[54:30.000 --> 54:33.000]  Yes, we blur the lines all the time.
[54:33.000 --> 54:34.000]  Next question.
[54:34.000 --> 54:36.000]  Recording phone calls is fun.
[54:36.000 --> 54:38.000]  I recorded my pretrial conference,
[54:38.000 --> 54:44.000]  and I have at least one bar grievance I can file as a result of that.
[54:44.000 --> 54:56.000]  Let me find the...I've got to pull up here.
[54:56.000 --> 55:00.000]  One of the rules of professional conduct he violated says,
[55:00.000 --> 55:05.000]  when communicating with an unrepresented person in the context of an investigation
[55:05.000 --> 55:10.000]  or proceeding, a prosecutor shall inform the person of the prosecutor's role
[55:10.000 --> 55:12.000]  and interest in the matter.
[55:12.000 --> 55:18.000]  I was able to do that during both pretrial conferences.
[55:18.000 --> 55:19.000]  Yeah, cool.
[55:19.000 --> 55:21.000]  You got to get the rights.
[55:21.000 --> 55:23.000]  Yeah.
[55:23.000 --> 55:25.000]  And he even asked me at the beginning of the call,
[55:25.000 --> 55:27.000]  are you still representing yourself?
[55:27.000 --> 55:30.000]  He stated that right in the call.
[55:30.000 --> 55:33.000]  The only way he does is he's showing that he knew during that call
[55:33.000 --> 55:35.000]  that I was unrepresented,
[55:35.000 --> 55:39.000]  but he also knew during the last time I talked that I was unrepresented.
[55:39.000 --> 55:41.000]  Yeah, exactly.
[55:41.000 --> 55:43.000]  Well, yeah, go ahead, do your mandamus,
[55:43.000 --> 55:47.000]  do a motion to reconsider this time extension,
[55:47.000 --> 55:53.000]  and mention in there that you need to do...you haven't gotten any discovery yet,
[55:53.000 --> 55:59.000]  and that's going to be important for you to figure out how to formulate a defense.
[55:59.000 --> 56:04.000]  Should I mention this about the...sorry?
[56:04.000 --> 56:11.000]  Should I state in there that I'm having problems obtaining public records
[56:11.000 --> 56:16.000]  or that I'm facing delays obtaining public records that could help me in my defense?
[56:16.000 --> 56:18.000]  Should I put something like that in there?
[56:18.000 --> 56:22.000]  Yes, yes.
[56:22.000 --> 56:27.000]  Also, if I'm able to get some documentation from my doctor,
[56:27.000 --> 56:29.000]  but it's not until next week,
[56:29.000 --> 56:32.000]  should I just file something tomorrow and then can I amend it again,
[56:32.000 --> 56:35.000]  say on Monday if I get more documentation I want to add to it?
[56:35.000 --> 56:37.000]  That's exactly what you do.
[56:37.000 --> 56:40.000]  You put in your eight bullet points, and then when you talk to your doctor
[56:40.000 --> 56:43.000]  and you have one or two more, you file and amend it.
[56:43.000 --> 56:47.000]  Okay, so I can just keep amending it if I want to add more stuff to it?
[56:47.000 --> 56:50.000]  Yes.
[56:50.000 --> 56:55.000]  Okay, I think that gives me a lot to work with for tonight.
[56:55.000 --> 56:58.000]  Maybe I'll give you guys a call back tomorrow and...
[56:58.000 --> 57:00.000]  Okay, great.
[57:00.000 --> 57:02.000]  I'll see you around here.
[57:02.000 --> 57:03.000]  Wonderful.
[57:03.000 --> 57:05.000]  All right, well, thanks for calling, Jason.
[57:05.000 --> 57:06.000]  Good talking with you again.
[57:06.000 --> 57:07.000]  Thanks.
[57:07.000 --> 57:08.000]  That works well for you.
[57:08.000 --> 57:10.000]  Okay, so next we're going to go to Ken.
[57:10.000 --> 57:12.000]  He's also in Wisconsin.
[57:12.000 --> 57:14.000]  How crazy is that?
[57:14.000 --> 57:16.000]  Two people in Wisconsin.
[57:16.000 --> 57:23.000]  Yes, Wisconsin's the land of craziness, I guess.
[57:23.000 --> 57:26.000]  I thought it was cheese.
[57:26.000 --> 57:30.000]  There's many more.
[57:30.000 --> 57:34.000]  Well, there is a lot of good cheese.
[57:34.000 --> 57:39.000]  One question, in Wisconsin, when we bar grieve, it doesn't go to the bar.
[57:39.000 --> 57:43.000]  It goes to Office of Lawyer Regulation.
[57:43.000 --> 57:48.000]  And I see they have the same thing in Missouri where it's actually a government
[57:48.000 --> 57:51.000]  agency that takes care of it.
[57:51.000 --> 57:58.000]  Does that still have the same effect on their insurance and all that?
[57:58.000 --> 58:00.000]  Yeah, I don't know.
[58:00.000 --> 58:04.000]  I would imagine it does, but I don't have any parking experience with the
[58:04.000 --> 58:08.000]  Wisconsin bar, so I couldn't say for sure.
[58:08.000 --> 58:10.000]  Okay, because it's not...
[58:10.000 --> 58:13.000]  You don't actually contact the bar in Wisconsin.
[58:13.000 --> 58:19.000]  You contact the Supreme Court, and they've got people authorize to...
[58:19.000 --> 58:22.000]  What's the Office of Lawyer Regulation?
[58:22.000 --> 58:25.000]  I would imagine that has the same effect.
[58:25.000 --> 58:31.000]  It still has to deal with somebody's alleged unethical behavior,
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[58:39.000 --> 58:43.000]  Who's indemnifying them from that kind of unethical behavior?
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[01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:49.000]  Most people think of seven as a more civilized number than six.
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[01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:47.000]  This is the Rule of Law Radio on Thursday, the October the 20th of 2022.
[01:03:47.000 --> 01:03:53.000]  And let's see, we're talking here with Ken in Wisconsin.
[01:03:53.000 --> 01:03:55.000]  And there we are, Ken.
[01:03:55.000 --> 01:03:58.000]  I thought you were unmuted.
[01:03:58.000 --> 01:03:59.000]  Okay.
[01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:00.000]  Okay.
[01:04:00.000 --> 01:04:06.000]  Well, you answered my first question about the Office of Lawyer Regulations.
[01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:13.000]  And now I guess my main reason for calling, I know it's not in your real
[01:04:13.000 --> 01:04:22.000]  area of expertise, but let me tell you the story and whatever observations
[01:04:22.000 --> 01:04:29.000]  or advice you could provide, you know, what any of it would be helpful.
[01:04:29.000 --> 01:04:36.000]  So I know this couple, they got common law married.
[01:04:36.000 --> 01:04:43.000]  He has his own business, a cash business, kind of off the grid.
[01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:47.000]  And she's been a mother and housewife for 10 years.
[01:04:47.000 --> 01:04:53.000]  And he has decided that they're going to be divorced.
[01:04:53.000 --> 01:05:00.000]  And basically, she can go her way.
[01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:05.000]  And he's wanted the kids.
[01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:12.000]  The kids are now about that age, you know, where there's no diapers or any of that stuff.
[01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:14.000]  They're like seven, eight years old.
[01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:21.000]  So at 50 age, he figures they won't be much of a problem for him.
[01:05:21.000 --> 01:05:32.000]  So now, and basically he wants them so he doesn't have to give her any money to take care of them.
[01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:39.000]  And none of these kids have, you know, Social Security numbers or birth certificates
[01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:43.000]  because he didn't want them in the system.
[01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:51.000]  But now suddenly, he's decided to get some lawyers and go to court,
[01:05:51.000 --> 01:05:57.000]  not to do a divorce where they can split things up,
[01:05:57.000 --> 01:06:06.000]  but specifically to have the court give him primary custody of the kids.
[01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:13.000]  So one question is, can they pick and choose, well, first off,
[01:06:13.000 --> 01:06:22.000]  would a Missouri court have jurisdiction over a common law marriage or over these kids
[01:06:22.000 --> 01:06:26.000]  if these kids were never in the system?
[01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:28.000]  So that's one question.
[01:06:28.000 --> 01:06:38.000]  And if they did want to get involved, it sounds like they will because his lawyers have served her
[01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:41.000]  with a couple of summonses.
[01:06:41.000 --> 01:06:51.000]  Can they just specify the issue of custody without really dealing with the whole issue of divorce?
[01:06:51.000 --> 01:06:55.000]  Because it's like he wants to take all the marbles.
[01:06:55.000 --> 01:07:03.000]  He always did have control of the money because he was the breadwinner.
[01:07:03.000 --> 01:07:10.000]  And so now, even if she wanted to get a lawyer, she's got no money for it.
[01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:16.000]  But now here's one more aspect to it.
[01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:20.000]  They've got quite a bit of land, equity of land,
[01:07:20.000 --> 01:07:26.000]  because he was, you know, no social security number and stuff.
[01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:29.000]  It's been put in her name.
[01:07:29.000 --> 01:07:38.000]  And now he wants to take that too because it's on a private land contract.
[01:07:38.000 --> 01:07:40.000]  There's no bank or anything.
[01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:47.000]  So he says that since his name has been on the payment,
[01:07:47.000 --> 01:07:51.000]  he wants the court to put his name on it.
[01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:53.000]  No.
[01:07:53.000 --> 01:07:55.000]  No, he can't get it that way.
[01:07:55.000 --> 01:08:00.000]  So the first question is going to be moot because the second question,
[01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:08.000]  the first question whether or not the court will have jurisdiction over a common law marriage,
[01:08:08.000 --> 01:08:12.000]  that's actually going to be moot because somebody is going to the court.
[01:08:12.000 --> 01:08:17.000]  One of them is specifically walking up to the court and saying,
[01:08:17.000 --> 01:08:21.000]  I want you to adjudicate this.
[01:08:21.000 --> 01:08:30.000]  He is, in my opinion, putting his children in the position that he always said he didn't want them in,
[01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:32.000]  which is in the hands of the state.
[01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:37.000]  The only way the state can make a decision and say, yeah, you have full custody.
[01:08:37.000 --> 01:08:39.000]  We're taking her parental rights.
[01:08:39.000 --> 01:08:41.000]  Her parental rights are going to be terminated.
[01:08:41.000 --> 01:08:50.000]  The only way that that can happen is if the one signing that paper has the authority to do it.
[01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:56.000]  Right now, before they bring all this stuff to be adjudicated,
[01:08:56.000 --> 01:09:06.000]  those two people, the father and the mother, have the highest claim in the universe over their children.
[01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:12.000]  All these sons and daughters came from them and nobody can have a higher claim.
[01:09:12.000 --> 01:09:19.000]  Yes, attorneys can argue about, well, the state has to consider the welfare of the children
[01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:23.000]  and we have a whole commission set up for that and public safety, blah, blah.
[01:09:23.000 --> 01:09:28.000]  They can do that and they often succeed.
[01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:40.000]  If they're going to protect the children from whatever, CPS, DFCS, whatever is the acronym in Missouri,
[01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:49.000]  if they're going to keep them out of that funnel, then they can't be going to the court
[01:09:49.000 --> 01:09:52.000]  and asking for the court to figure this out.
[01:09:52.000 --> 01:09:59.000]  They need to be man and woman sitting down and hashing this out over the dining table.
[01:09:59.000 --> 01:10:06.000]  They need to come to an agreement between the two of them, what they're going to do, without going to the courts.
[01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:08.000]  You start getting lawyers involved.
[01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:15.000]  That's like letting, you know, you have a fort and you open up the front door to the fort
[01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:20.000]  and there's 800 bad guys out there and you tell them, only you and you.
[01:10:20.000 --> 01:10:24.000]  You let two guys in there, but you're not going to let the rest of them in.
[01:10:24.000 --> 01:10:26.000]  Yeah, right.
[01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:28.000]  That's not going to happen.
[01:10:28.000 --> 01:10:30.000]  You open up the door for a little bit.
[01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:34.000]  They're all coming in and they're going to divide all your assets.
[01:10:34.000 --> 01:10:37.000]  Seventy, eighty percent of it is going to go to the lawyers
[01:10:37.000 --> 01:10:42.000]  and they'll be left with a little bit pittance of leftovers.
[01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:47.000]  It's not going to be a pretty picture and nobody's ever happy with the way these things turn out.
[01:10:47.000 --> 01:10:56.000]  I would certainly hope that you have the ear of this father and mother to encourage them to,
[01:10:56.000 --> 01:11:01.000]  you know, hey, you wanted to do this in a way that protects your family.
[01:11:01.000 --> 01:11:06.000]  You've been doing things kind of the difficult way all these years.
[01:11:06.000 --> 01:11:16.000]  You've gone to all this extra trouble to be, you know, quote, safe by not doing things the standard way.
[01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:17.000]  Right.
[01:11:17.000 --> 01:11:20.000]  Now she doesn't want to do that.
[01:11:20.000 --> 01:11:28.000]  I mean, she agrees with you that let's talk this out.
[01:11:28.000 --> 01:11:29.000]  Let's work it out.
[01:11:29.000 --> 01:11:31.000]  And it has been working out.
[01:11:31.000 --> 01:11:39.000]  I mean, she's been letting him have the kids more than half the time.
[01:11:39.000 --> 01:11:47.000]  But I think this is a ploy to see what she wanted was not just the kids,
[01:11:47.000 --> 01:11:53.000]  but talk about if he wants a divorce, how do we split up everything here?
[01:11:53.000 --> 01:12:00.000]  And the way I see it is he's running to the court to get what he wants, the kids,
[01:12:00.000 --> 01:12:07.000]  and then just tell her to get lost as far as dividing anything up.
[01:12:07.000 --> 01:12:16.000]  So what he doesn't realize is that in that mindset of his choosing right now,
[01:12:16.000 --> 01:12:19.000]  he's not going to end up with what he wants.
[01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:21.000]  He's going to end up with a whole lot less than he would have
[01:12:21.000 --> 01:12:25.000]  if he had sat at a table and worked it out with her.
[01:12:25.000 --> 01:12:33.000]  Well, and see, they're not even bringing that issue of splitting up the property or anything.
[01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:37.000]  They've got two...
[01:12:37.000 --> 01:12:38.000]  This is not about the property.
[01:12:38.000 --> 01:12:39.000]  The property is so secondary.
[01:12:39.000 --> 01:12:42.000]  You have the children's lives at stake here.
[01:12:42.000 --> 01:12:44.000]  Well, I understand that.
[01:12:44.000 --> 01:12:46.000]  They have two separate suits.
[01:12:46.000 --> 01:12:50.000]  One is specifically for the custody,
[01:12:50.000 --> 01:13:00.000]  and one is specifically for him to get his name on the land title
[01:13:00.000 --> 01:13:03.000]  and see all the things that would work against him,
[01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:09.000]  like let's just say a divorce proceeding of some type where they might tell him,
[01:13:09.000 --> 01:13:14.000]  hey, you got to give her so much money, so much a month, whatever.
[01:13:14.000 --> 01:13:16.000]  He doesn't want to deal with that.
[01:13:16.000 --> 01:13:20.000]  He just wants to do what he wants to do,
[01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:27.000]  and the things that he can't do necessarily like take the kids away,
[01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:30.000]  and for that purpose he's going to court,
[01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:35.000]  and then the other lawsuit is to get his name on the land title,
[01:13:35.000 --> 01:13:45.000]  and that's really all she has to show for the 10 years was some property,
[01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:48.000]  but I mean it still has to be paid off,
[01:13:48.000 --> 01:13:51.000]  but it's still quite a bit of equity in there,
[01:13:51.000 --> 01:13:57.000]  and he wants to get his grip on that.
[01:13:57.000 --> 01:14:04.000]  Now, I guess my own question is, do you think if the land is in her name,
[01:14:04.000 --> 01:14:16.000]  registered at the courthouse, does the court have jurisdiction to say,
[01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:20.000]  well, you know, he says he's been paying for it.
[01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:27.000]  He made up a story about an agreement that, yeah, later,
[01:14:27.000 --> 01:14:32.000]  we'll put it in her name now, but later on it's going to switch to my name anyway.
[01:14:32.000 --> 01:14:37.000]  He made that story up for his lawsuit where in reality,
[01:14:37.000 --> 01:14:44.000]  I believe originally this was kind of like her nest egg or something.
[01:14:44.000 --> 01:14:53.000]  If anything happened to him, she would have whatever equity was in that property saved up.
[01:14:53.000 --> 01:14:54.000]  That doesn't really matter.
[01:14:54.000 --> 01:14:57.000]  She could just deny that that happened,
[01:14:57.000 --> 01:15:02.000]  but hopefully they don't do this in the court.
[01:15:02.000 --> 01:15:05.000]  Hopefully they will do this outside of court.
[01:15:05.000 --> 01:15:06.000]  Mediation if need be.
[01:15:06.000 --> 01:15:14.000]  Get some people that care about their family together in a room and hash it out.
[01:15:14.000 --> 01:15:21.000]  Maybe they get some counseling or maybe they decide to split ways, but however it happens,
[01:15:21.000 --> 01:15:27.000]  you know, there is such a thing as court-ordered mediation also,
[01:15:27.000 --> 01:15:31.000]  and sometimes they'll do that in a family law case.
[01:15:31.000 --> 01:15:36.000]  The judge sees no real way to connect this person's expectations with that,
[01:15:36.000 --> 01:15:38.000]  and so they send them off to mediation.
[01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:44.000]  They make them pay crazy, excruciating payments of mediation,
[01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:52.000]  which is nothing more than talking with a lawyer in between you.
[01:15:52.000 --> 01:15:53.000]  I know.
[01:15:53.000 --> 01:15:59.000]  You would think reasonable people can hammer it up, okay?
[01:15:59.000 --> 01:16:00.000]  Yes.
[01:16:00.000 --> 01:16:04.000]  And if they can't, get a few people, at least one.
[01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:05.000]  Make it be like an odd number.
[01:16:05.000 --> 01:16:08.000]  One, three people, something.
[01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:10.000]  These people care about the family.
[01:16:10.000 --> 01:16:11.000]  They've known the family a while.
[01:16:11.000 --> 01:16:14.000]  They have a decent head on their shoulders,
[01:16:14.000 --> 01:16:22.000]  and they can give some input that shows how somebody is being reasonable or unreasonable.
[01:16:22.000 --> 01:16:26.000]  That could go a long way, and that's totally outside the court.
[01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:31.000]  Well, that was actually tried, too,
[01:16:31.000 --> 01:16:37.000]  where three people from his family and two from mine.
[01:16:37.000 --> 01:16:40.000]  Yeah, not from their family, because then that looks like side.
[01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:44.000]  It looks like, oh, yeah, all the people on your side.
[01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:45.000]  Yeah.
[01:16:45.000 --> 01:16:47.000]  See if you can find some people in the church or some people's neighbors
[01:16:47.000 --> 01:16:50.000]  or somebody that cares, that knows a little something.
[01:16:50.000 --> 01:16:53.000]  I'm sorry, Ken, we're just about to go to our sponsors again.
[01:16:53.000 --> 01:16:54.000]  Hold on.
[01:16:54.000 --> 01:16:55.000]  Yeah.
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[01:19:45.000 --> 01:19:50.000]  Randy Kelton, I'm Brett Fountain, and we're speaking with Ken in Wisconsin.
[01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:56.000]  Ken, you were describing a very sad situation here with a family that's splitting up.
[01:19:56.000 --> 01:19:59.000]  I hate these stories, and even more than that,
[01:19:59.000 --> 01:20:03.000]  I hate what the courts do to them when they're down.
[01:20:03.000 --> 01:20:06.000]  It's so ugly that everything gets taken from them.
[01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:10.000]  It's like vultures circling, and the lawyers split all of their garments.
[01:20:10.000 --> 01:20:12.000]  I hate it.
[01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:18.000]  But yeah, we were talking about mediation.
[01:20:18.000 --> 01:20:23.000]  I think you said that you've tried it, but it was with family members.
[01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:27.000]  If possible, if you can get some other people that are not family members,
[01:20:27.000 --> 01:20:31.000]  then it won't be perceived as, oh yeah, of course they're saying that.
[01:20:31.000 --> 01:20:33.000]  They're on your side.
[01:20:33.000 --> 01:20:39.000]  You can get some, you know, try to eliminate any obstacles like that.
[01:20:39.000 --> 01:20:49.000]  Okay, so I guess it didn't even get that far because there were like the mediators,
[01:20:49.000 --> 01:20:57.000]  and there were several issues, you know, the custody of the kids,
[01:20:57.000 --> 01:21:04.000]  splitting properties, splitting the money, maybe some kind of other scheduling.
[01:21:04.000 --> 01:21:11.000]  So there were several topics to deal with, and he got stuck on the first one
[01:21:11.000 --> 01:21:18.000]  and would not discuss any of the other ones until he had his way on the first one.
[01:21:18.000 --> 01:21:23.000]  So a couple of mediators said, well, okay, why don't we go to the other ones
[01:21:23.000 --> 01:21:25.000]  and come back to this one?
[01:21:25.000 --> 01:21:30.000]  Well, no, I mean, he didn't, he wasn't going to.
[01:21:30.000 --> 01:21:32.000]  That was the end of it.
[01:21:32.000 --> 01:21:34.000]  That's as far as it got.
[01:21:34.000 --> 01:21:39.000]  So it was the first one about the children?
[01:21:39.000 --> 01:21:42.000]  Yeah, yeah, that was the hangover.
[01:21:42.000 --> 01:21:47.000]  You tell that boy he's likely to lose his children.
[01:21:47.000 --> 01:21:52.000]  His children are likely to end up stamped with the number that he always tried to avoid for them,
[01:21:52.000 --> 01:22:00.000]  and they're likely to end up in public school systems, indoctrinated as wards of the state,
[01:22:00.000 --> 01:22:08.000]  and passed off from one foster home to another, split up.
[01:22:08.000 --> 01:22:11.000]  He won't likely get what he wants out of this deal.
[01:22:11.000 --> 01:22:14.000]  Tell him stuff like that.
[01:22:14.000 --> 01:22:26.000]  Well, I understand that, but right now the wheels are in motion for these two court hearings
[01:22:26.000 --> 01:22:30.000]  or whatever they are, lawsuit or something.
[01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:35.000]  But she's got 30 days to respond.
[01:22:35.000 --> 01:22:37.000]  I haven't seen the letters.
[01:22:37.000 --> 01:22:40.000]  I just heard about them yesterday.
[01:22:40.000 --> 01:22:51.000]  So I guess some of the questions, would she challenge the jurisdiction of either one of these courts?
[01:22:51.000 --> 01:22:55.000]  Yes.
[01:22:55.000 --> 01:22:57.000]  Both of them?
[01:22:57.000 --> 01:23:01.000]  Yes.
[01:23:01.000 --> 01:23:07.000]  Some of my best friends are unfortunately dealing with a situation like this right now.
[01:23:07.000 --> 01:23:12.000]  And it's not that they aren't willing to go to mediation.
[01:23:12.000 --> 01:23:15.000]  One of them isn't even thinking straight.
[01:23:15.000 --> 01:23:22.000]  There's some kind of mental issues and not even thinking straight.
[01:23:22.000 --> 01:23:33.000]  So this one is particularly belligerent and will not look good in a courtroom.
[01:23:33.000 --> 01:23:46.000]  And yet, when divorce papers were filed, this family has been ripped apart in the middle of January.
[01:23:46.000 --> 01:23:49.000]  Divorce papers were filed in February.
[01:23:49.000 --> 01:23:59.000]  A responsive answer was provided on the very last day.
[01:23:59.000 --> 01:24:04.000]  In Texas, you have 20 days plus until the next Monday.
[01:24:04.000 --> 01:24:07.000]  It's the Monday following the 20th day.
[01:24:07.000 --> 01:24:08.000]  I don't know.
[01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:11.000]  It sounds like you have 30 days.
[01:24:11.000 --> 01:24:23.000]  So this one spouse filed an answer, and it was a challenge to the jurisdiction of the court.
[01:24:23.000 --> 01:24:30.000]  And here we are in the third week of October, and they haven't figured out what to do yet.
[01:24:30.000 --> 01:24:33.000]  The court can't get past that so far.
[01:24:33.000 --> 01:24:41.000]  They actually started out, they got past it at first with kind of bullying.
[01:24:41.000 --> 01:24:51.000]  Are you saying that this court doesn't have jurisdiction?
[01:24:51.000 --> 01:24:59.000]  And then they had an attorney happen to be sitting there in the courtroom.
[01:24:59.000 --> 01:25:01.000]  Hey, here's some free legal advice.
[01:25:01.000 --> 01:25:04.000]  Go off in the back room and talk to that attorney and come back in here.
[01:25:04.000 --> 01:25:06.000]  Oh, I'm so sorry, Your Honor.
[01:25:06.000 --> 01:25:07.000]  Came back a few minutes.
[01:25:07.000 --> 01:25:08.000]  I'm so sorry.
[01:25:08.000 --> 01:25:09.000]  I didn't understand how things work.
[01:25:09.000 --> 01:25:11.000]  I retract everything.
[01:25:11.000 --> 01:25:21.000]  And yet, even with that, they haven't been able to cause this divorce to happen.
[01:25:21.000 --> 01:25:29.000]  So all that to say yes, I would think it makes a lot of sense to challenge the jurisdiction of the court,
[01:25:29.000 --> 01:25:40.000]  especially in their case, because most people went ahead and did the marriage license thing.
[01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:42.000]  They got licenses for everything.
[01:25:42.000 --> 01:25:44.000]  They're licensed to have children.
[01:25:44.000 --> 01:25:49.000]  They're licensed everything belongs to the state on paper.
[01:25:49.000 --> 01:25:52.000]  This family that you're talking about hasn't done that.
[01:25:52.000 --> 01:25:53.000]  Right.
[01:25:53.000 --> 01:26:01.000]  So it's even a stronger position to challenge the jurisdiction of the court,
[01:26:01.000 --> 01:26:05.000]  even stronger than what most families would have.
[01:26:05.000 --> 01:26:17.000]  So she could challenge the jurisdiction and use these issues as supporting information.
[01:26:17.000 --> 01:26:18.000]  I mean, the...
[01:26:18.000 --> 01:26:19.000]  What do you mean issues?
[01:26:19.000 --> 01:26:25.000]  The birth certificate, no marriage license, no Social Security numbers.
[01:26:25.000 --> 01:26:26.000]  Oh, no.
[01:26:26.000 --> 01:26:27.000]  There's no real need for that.
[01:26:27.000 --> 01:26:33.000]  I mean, you actually could mention it in there, but I don't think it would be beneficial.
[01:26:33.000 --> 01:26:39.000]  When you challenge jurisdiction, the person who's doing the challenging doesn't have any burden of proof.
[01:26:39.000 --> 01:26:45.000]  The burden of proof is on the one who asserts jurisdiction.
[01:26:45.000 --> 01:26:47.000]  So you say, wait a minute, who are you?
[01:26:47.000 --> 01:26:50.000]  You don't have jurisdiction to step in here in my home and tell me what to do,
[01:26:50.000 --> 01:26:52.000]  and I have to sell my property and give you my kids.
[01:26:52.000 --> 01:26:54.000]  Who are you?
[01:26:54.000 --> 01:26:57.000]  And the one asserting jurisdiction has to say,
[01:26:57.000 --> 01:27:06.000]  here's why we do have authority to step into your home and divide up all your assets.
[01:27:06.000 --> 01:27:08.000]  Does that make sense?
[01:27:08.000 --> 01:27:10.000]  Well, it makes sense.
[01:27:10.000 --> 01:27:11.000]  Okay.
[01:27:11.000 --> 01:27:14.000]  So then what do you reply back to that?
[01:27:14.000 --> 01:27:22.000]  You know, they'll say some law, something about children or wards of the state or whatever.
[01:27:22.000 --> 01:27:30.000]  Would that be the time then to come back and say, well, how do you assume jurisdiction over these kids?
[01:27:30.000 --> 01:27:37.000]  What do these two kids have in connection with you
[01:27:37.000 --> 01:27:41.000]  that gives you authority to come and put them where you want them?
[01:27:41.000 --> 01:27:44.000]  Right.
[01:27:44.000 --> 01:27:51.000]  Yeah, my phrase that I would use for that is nobody has a higher claim on them than I do
[01:27:51.000 --> 01:28:02.000]  because the lawyers will point to some case law that says that the state has an interest in the welfare of the children.
[01:28:02.000 --> 01:28:12.000]  And so the state can exercise some kind of authority in the pursuit of that interest.
[01:28:12.000 --> 01:28:19.000]  However, this lady has a higher claim on the children.
[01:28:19.000 --> 01:28:26.000]  Whatever interest, a neighbor might have interest in seeing that the children are safe as well.
[01:28:26.000 --> 01:28:27.000]  Great.
[01:28:27.000 --> 01:28:33.000]  The neighbor can do something about it if there's an urgency of the moment kind of a thing going on.
[01:28:33.000 --> 01:28:39.000]  But if the parent steps up and says no, the neighbor better back off.
[01:28:39.000 --> 01:28:42.000]  Okay.
[01:28:42.000 --> 01:28:51.000]  So she can just resist everything right along the lines of the proceedings
[01:28:51.000 --> 01:28:56.000]  if they ignore the subject matter jurisdiction and just go ahead.
[01:28:56.000 --> 01:29:00.000]  I guess she would just object to everything, huh?
[01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:02.000]  That's what I would do.
[01:29:02.000 --> 01:29:05.000]  I can't say it would be successful.
[01:29:05.000 --> 01:29:09.000]  It seems like such a horror story with these family law courts.
[01:29:09.000 --> 01:29:13.000]  I don't know of anybody that has a silver bullet.
[01:29:13.000 --> 01:29:18.000]  But yes, I absolutely would do that.
[01:29:18.000 --> 01:29:32.000]  Also, I would be crying out to the Lord because there's no guarantee that whatever happens in these courtrooms is going to follow the law.
[01:29:32.000 --> 01:29:35.000]  You know, we all know that they take liberties.
[01:29:35.000 --> 01:29:40.000]  They treat each other's winks and nods going on and people are wheeling and dealing in back rooms.
[01:29:40.000 --> 01:29:43.000]  And I think nobody sees.
[01:29:43.000 --> 01:29:50.000]  I would be crying out to the one that I know sees and has a hand in the affairs of men.
[01:29:50.000 --> 01:29:54.000]  That's another angle to this.
[01:29:54.000 --> 01:29:58.000]  Well, do you think she can keep it out of their court?
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[01:33:30.000 --> 01:33:33.000]  This is the Rule of Law Radio, Randy Kelton.
[01:33:33.000 --> 01:33:35.000]  I'm Brett Fountain.
[01:33:35.000 --> 01:33:39.000]  And we're speaking with Ken in Wisconsin here.
[01:33:39.000 --> 01:33:45.000]  And I see we've got a couple other callers on the board here,
[01:33:45.000 --> 01:33:50.000]  and hopefully we'll be able to get to everybody in the next half hour.
[01:33:50.000 --> 01:33:55.000]  Ken, you had one more question you were raising.
[01:33:55.000 --> 01:34:01.000]  Well, I had the one about if she sticks to her guns as much as possible
[01:34:01.000 --> 01:34:07.000]  on the jurisdiction thing, do you think she'd be able to keep it out,
[01:34:07.000 --> 01:34:11.000]  or do you think they would bulldoze over her somehow?
[01:34:11.000 --> 01:34:15.000]  And the other question, which I have to get an answer for,
[01:34:15.000 --> 01:34:26.000]  is what kind of good reasons can we use to bargrieve his lawyers?
[01:34:26.000 --> 01:34:29.000]  Now you're talking about easy questions.
[01:34:29.000 --> 01:34:32.000]  You pull up the Wisconsin has a state bar.
[01:34:32.000 --> 01:34:41.000]  Every state has adopted to some extent the American Bar Association's model rules.
[01:34:41.000 --> 01:34:48.000]  So you'll find these rules of ethics that all the lawyers that are part of the bar
[01:34:48.000 --> 01:34:52.000]  have sworn that they are going to follow these rules.
[01:34:52.000 --> 01:34:58.000]  And it says they shall not do this, and they shall do that, and it's pretty easy.
[01:34:58.000 --> 01:35:02.000]  As you skim through there, you, knowing the facts set,
[01:35:02.000 --> 01:35:07.000]  will have things popping out at you left and right.
[01:35:07.000 --> 01:35:19.000]  One that stands out to me right away is trying to obtain a waiver of important rights.
[01:35:19.000 --> 01:35:21.000]  Okay.
[01:35:21.000 --> 01:35:26.000]  And these lawyers are trying to get people to waive their rights, and that's common.
[01:35:26.000 --> 01:35:31.000]  We've got, if they said anything to the court about,
[01:35:31.000 --> 01:35:33.000]  oh, yes, Your Honor, you have jurisdiction.
[01:35:33.000 --> 01:35:37.000]  This is definitely one of those war of the state situations.
[01:35:37.000 --> 01:35:39.000]  Oh, yes, yes.
[01:35:39.000 --> 01:35:45.000]  Well, they just lied to the court, so you can bargrieve them for that.
[01:35:45.000 --> 01:35:51.000]  So like me, I'm not there in Wisconsin.
[01:35:51.000 --> 01:35:53.000]  That's okay.
[01:35:53.000 --> 01:35:58.000]  So remotely, can I bargrieve them for something?
[01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:01.000]  Oh, yeah, absolutely.
[01:36:01.000 --> 01:36:02.000]  Okay.
[01:36:02.000 --> 01:36:05.000]  Bargrieve them from Australia if you want to.
[01:36:05.000 --> 01:36:06.000]  Okay.
[01:36:06.000 --> 01:36:08.000]  And then you don't have to be in there.
[01:36:08.000 --> 01:36:10.000]  You don't have to have hired the lawyer.
[01:36:10.000 --> 01:36:12.000]  Maybe you never even saw the lawyer.
[01:36:12.000 --> 01:36:16.000]  I bargrieve lawyers all the time that I've never seen, never heard of me before.
[01:36:16.000 --> 01:36:22.000]  They have no idea why I know something about their court activities, but that's okay.
[01:36:22.000 --> 01:36:25.000]  Now I know about it, and there you go.
[01:36:25.000 --> 01:36:29.000]  They're going to get their cowbell rung like a sniper hitting them from a distance.
[01:36:29.000 --> 01:36:30.000]  Okay.
[01:36:30.000 --> 01:36:31.000]  You can totally do that.
[01:36:31.000 --> 01:36:38.000]  I think that will be an important aspect, you know, of the defense.
[01:36:38.000 --> 01:36:42.000]  So, okay, well, I guess I'll let you go.
[01:36:42.000 --> 01:36:45.000]  I'm glad I got to talk to you.
[01:36:45.000 --> 01:36:46.000]  Yeah.
[01:36:46.000 --> 01:36:49.000]  Well, thanks for calling.
[01:36:49.000 --> 01:36:54.000]  All right.
[01:36:54.000 --> 01:36:57.000]  Now we're going to go to Bina in California.
[01:36:57.000 --> 01:36:59.000]  Good evening, Bina.
[01:36:59.000 --> 01:37:01.000]  What's on your mind?
[01:37:01.000 --> 01:37:02.000]  Hey there.
[01:37:02.000 --> 01:37:04.000]  I'm glad we got it in.
[01:37:04.000 --> 01:37:06.000]  Yes, ma'am.
[01:37:06.000 --> 01:37:09.000]  And how are you?
[01:37:09.000 --> 01:37:11.000]  I'm doing just great.
[01:37:11.000 --> 01:37:13.000]  Great.
[01:37:13.000 --> 01:37:21.000]  So I called in maybe four weeks ago about a landlord situation that had been kicked off.
[01:37:21.000 --> 01:37:27.000]  I talked about having my lease challenged in a 60-day notice.
[01:37:27.000 --> 01:37:35.000]  Well, I did some legwork on my own, and obviously I have a lease otherwise.
[01:37:35.000 --> 01:37:44.000]  That's why the keys have been given to me from where I live and why rent had been accepted from me for 14 months in cash with receipts.
[01:37:44.000 --> 01:37:49.000]  So we know that the claim that I didn't have a lease was false.
[01:37:49.000 --> 01:37:55.000]  When that did not work for this landlord, Brett, here's what he did.
[01:37:55.000 --> 01:38:04.000]  He went and did a surreptitious background check using my name or some name, maybe just my first name.
[01:38:04.000 --> 01:38:14.000]  He pulled up court records for someone with my first name only and then emailed me copies of these court records, you know,
[01:38:14.000 --> 01:38:24.000]  court case numbers with this other person, actually there are two individuals, with their full names accusing me of being those aliases.
[01:38:24.000 --> 01:38:34.000]  Both of the cases that he researched without a consent, because I did look up the laws about credit reporting acts,
[01:38:34.000 --> 01:38:46.000]  he is claiming these are my aliases, both of the cases predated the time I was even in California, much less was living in California.
[01:38:46.000 --> 01:38:52.000]  He drove Brett, and he's not stopping. The law is not stopping him.
[01:38:52.000 --> 01:39:01.000]  Well, the courts are not going to until you give the court a button to push.
[01:39:01.000 --> 01:39:08.000]  You have to write it up. You have to put an objection in the record wherever he put this in the court case.
[01:39:08.000 --> 01:39:14.000]  You have to file something that opposes his filing, and you put facts in there.
[01:39:14.000 --> 01:39:22.000]  No, he has not filed. These are just threatening emails, texts. He's stalking me. He's threatening me.
[01:39:22.000 --> 01:39:31.000]  Well, then it doesn't matter. You can address that separately, but it's a sideband. It's out of channel. It's a separate parallel issue.
[01:39:31.000 --> 01:39:38.000]  Your main issue here is whatever's in the court record. If he's sending you these emails and he's not sending them to the court,
[01:39:38.000 --> 01:39:46.000]  then don't worry about it for the purpose of what's going on in court. You don't have to. It's not before the court.
[01:39:46.000 --> 01:39:48.000]  If it ever gets before the court, then you'll oppose it.
[01:39:48.000 --> 01:39:56.000]  But in the meantime, just make a note of it so that you can write a criminal complaint and lob that grenade.
[01:39:56.000 --> 01:40:04.000]  Just accuse him of, like you said, harassment, stalking, unauthorized misuse of personal identifying information.
[01:40:04.000 --> 01:40:16.000]  Whatever your local penal code there in California, I think they call it criminal code, just skim through there and find, oh yeah, he did this.
[01:40:16.000 --> 01:40:20.000]  He's obviously doing this. He's trying to intimidate me. This looks like simulated legal process.
[01:40:20.000 --> 01:40:28.000]  He says, if I don't do this and this and that, but he's going to do this, well, there we have some threats going on.
[01:40:28.000 --> 01:40:38.000]  And just look for what is referenced as what the California legislature has said. This is a criminal activity.
[01:40:38.000 --> 01:40:45.000]  Line it up with his behavior. If all the points of it match, you know, like essential elements of the crime.
[01:40:45.000 --> 01:40:53.000]  If the facts that lines up to support it being that crime, report it. But that won't fix your thing about the landlord thing.
[01:40:53.000 --> 01:41:06.000]  You've got an issue with the lease. You know, you mentioned just a moment ago that he first said there was no lease.
[01:41:06.000 --> 01:41:17.000]  And then it came up that that's impossible. Well, did he ever admit, okay, yeah, fine, fine, we had a lease, whatever.
[01:41:17.000 --> 01:41:27.000]  Did he ever get that far? Yes, because the second notice, the three day notice said in your lease data, da da da da da.
[01:41:27.000 --> 01:41:43.000]  Good. He just burned himself. So now you can have him, all of his testimony stricken and have him removed as a non credible witness.
[01:41:43.000 --> 01:41:55.000]  He he just committed what's called aggravated perjury. Yeah. Perjury is when he says Bina is so ugly.
[01:41:55.000 --> 01:42:03.000]  Well, that's a lie. Bina is not ugly. Or it might be, you know, Bina weighs five thousand pounds.
[01:42:03.000 --> 01:42:12.000]  That's not true. But none of that's before the court. That's not the issue before the court. It's considered not material.
[01:42:12.000 --> 01:42:25.000]  So if he lies about something like that, that's one thing. But if he lies about something that is a core issue here, does she have a lease?
[01:42:25.000 --> 01:42:32.000]  He lied about that. That's material to what is before the court. That's aggravated perjury.
[01:42:32.000 --> 01:42:49.000]  So the punishment, the severity goes up a notch when he commits aggravated perjury. And that also puts him in a position of every word he has said is subject to getting stricken.
[01:42:49.000 --> 01:42:59.000]  You can say I moved to strike all the testimony of this person who has perjured himself.
[01:42:59.000 --> 01:43:09.000]  But it doesn't matter which one was true. If he first says that there was no lease and then later he said there wasn't or later he said there was.
[01:43:09.000 --> 01:43:17.000]  It doesn't matter which one's true. The fact that they're impossibly inconsistent immediately.
[01:43:17.000 --> 01:43:24.000]  He's he's you don't have to prove which one is false or if both are false, it doesn't matter.
[01:43:24.000 --> 01:43:34.000]  He's out. Yeah, you actually answered my question. I wonder if I can file a criminal complaint against the clinical person.
[01:43:34.000 --> 01:43:41.000]  Yeah, but it's just totally separate. It's not part of the case because that part's not before the court. Yes, you can.
[01:43:41.000 --> 01:43:44.000]  Who would I give that to?
[01:43:44.000 --> 01:43:55.000]  OK, great question. And we're just about to go to our sponsors. So we'll talk about that on the other side. That's a really good question. Lots of people ask that question.
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[01:46:22.000 --> 01:46:35.000]  Alright, we are back. This is the Rule of Law Radio, Randy Kelton. I'm Brett Fountain and we are talking with Bina in California.
[01:46:35.000 --> 01:46:43.000]  Steven, I see you there. Hopefully we'll get to you here shortly. We're going to finish up in 15 minutes.
[01:46:43.000 --> 01:46:45.000]  I hope we'll be able to get to everybody.
[01:46:45.000 --> 01:46:54.000]  Bina, we were talking right before the sponsors about where do you take a criminal complaint?
[01:46:54.000 --> 01:47:01.000]  That's a really common question. Lots of people, they finally figure out how they're going to write it but they don't know what to do with it.
[01:47:01.000 --> 01:47:09.000]  Here's the key. You want to look in your local criminal procedure. You're in California, right?
[01:47:09.000 --> 01:47:19.000]  So we're going to look in California to find who has a duty because a lot of people think about the police.
[01:47:19.000 --> 01:47:21.000]  Hey, we should just go to the local police station.
[01:47:21.000 --> 01:47:27.000]  And even the people that have a duty to act on your criminal complaint sometimes don't even know that it's them.
[01:47:27.000 --> 01:47:34.000]  They even think it's the police. Oh yeah, you need to call the non-emergency number and see if somebody will take a report.
[01:47:34.000 --> 01:47:42.000]  No, you need to go yourself and look in the criminal procedure. It's probably going to be a magistrate.
[01:47:42.000 --> 01:47:53.000]  And in almost every case, a judge is a magistrate and you'll be able to take your criminal complaint to a judge.
[01:47:53.000 --> 01:48:00.000]  So the magistrate, whoever that person is, wears two hats.
[01:48:00.000 --> 01:48:07.000]  They've got a magistrate hat for figuring out, hey, I'm looking at a criminal complaint here. Would this be a crime?
[01:48:07.000 --> 01:48:18.000]  Somebody wrote on this, they swore under penalty of perjury, I promise he wore navy blue socks that didn't quite match.
[01:48:18.000 --> 01:48:27.000]  Yeah. So the magistrate can look at that and say, well, that doesn't go to any offense in the laws of this state.
[01:48:27.000 --> 01:48:31.000]  We're not going to make a court case out of this.
[01:48:31.000 --> 01:48:39.000]  Or they look at that and say, if everything here is taken as true, that is a crime.
[01:48:39.000 --> 01:48:42.000]  So that's called a determination of probable cause.
[01:48:42.000 --> 01:48:49.000]  That's what the magistrate does, or they're supposed to do according to law, when they are looking at a complaint.
[01:48:49.000 --> 01:48:56.000]  They have to take some action. And if the person that's accused is not there in front of them, they need to summon them.
[01:48:56.000 --> 01:49:06.000]  Or even send out a warrant for their arrest to drag that person to the magistrate and have them answer for what's going on here.
[01:49:06.000 --> 01:49:12.000]  Now, the first, the only thing the magistrate can do is hold an examining trial, or in California,
[01:49:12.000 --> 01:49:16.000]  I think it's called a preliminary inquiry or something like that.
[01:49:16.000 --> 01:49:26.000]  It's a pretrial hearing that is just for the purpose of determining probable cause.
[01:49:26.000 --> 01:49:30.000]  So that same person also has a judge hat they can put on.
[01:49:30.000 --> 01:49:34.000]  And it may be the only hat they know about.
[01:49:34.000 --> 01:49:42.000]  But the judge hat is after a criminal, after a case has been convinced, then they're going to go adjudicate that case.
[01:49:42.000 --> 01:49:46.000]  Then you have at least two parties are going to come before them in a courtroom
[01:49:46.000 --> 01:49:50.000]  and ring whatever papers and evidence and everything they've got, witnesses and all that.
[01:49:50.000 --> 01:49:54.000]  And they're going to hash it out in court.
[01:49:54.000 --> 01:49:58.000]  That's the hat that they tend to know about more.
[01:49:58.000 --> 01:50:07.000]  But if you want to invoke someone's duty and you want to be able to jump on them and force them to do their duty,
[01:50:07.000 --> 01:50:09.000]  well, you have to find out who that is.
[01:50:09.000 --> 01:50:14.000]  And I bet you're going to find in the California...
[01:50:14.000 --> 01:50:19.000]  Let's see if I can take a look at that real quick here.
[01:50:19.000 --> 01:50:35.000]  California Code, Section Penal Code, Part 2, Criminal Procedure.
[01:50:35.000 --> 01:50:42.000]  I don't know, the way it's broken up here, it's not going to be real easy to do on the air.
[01:50:42.000 --> 01:50:49.000]  I have to go into each one and then come back out of it, just doing the numbers.
[01:50:49.000 --> 01:50:52.000]  So that's where it is called Penal Code in California.
[01:50:52.000 --> 01:50:54.000]  I can see that Penal Code.
[01:50:54.000 --> 01:50:57.000]  And then you'll look at Part 2, Criminal Procedure.
[01:50:57.000 --> 01:51:02.000]  And then underneath that, I'm not sure yet which of the title and section you'll find underneath there.
[01:51:02.000 --> 01:51:06.000]  But I bet you it's going to tell you to go take it to a magistrate.
[01:51:06.000 --> 01:51:12.000]  And so that's what you do.
[01:51:12.000 --> 01:51:14.000]  Okay.
[01:51:14.000 --> 01:51:17.000]  Just one more quick question.
[01:51:17.000 --> 01:51:24.000]  How can I address his doing an after-tenancy background check,
[01:51:24.000 --> 01:51:28.000]  which is where he pulled up these other people's information?
[01:51:28.000 --> 01:51:32.000]  Everything I've been reading since I learned that he did this, that a consent,
[01:51:32.000 --> 01:51:37.000]  signed consent must be received from me,
[01:51:37.000 --> 01:51:45.000]  and he did not have any written consent from me to do a 14-month end-to-my-tenancy background check.
[01:51:45.000 --> 01:51:48.000]  This is all retaliatory?
[01:51:48.000 --> 01:51:50.000]  Well, that's your conclusion.
[01:51:50.000 --> 01:51:52.000]  Retaliatory is your conclusion.
[01:51:52.000 --> 01:51:53.000]  It's your interpretation of it.
[01:51:53.000 --> 01:51:57.000]  And you're probably right, but you have to be able to back that up.
[01:51:57.000 --> 01:52:01.000]  So go find in Part 1.
[01:52:01.000 --> 01:52:04.000]  So we were just looking at Part 2, Criminal Procedure.
[01:52:04.000 --> 01:52:06.000]  Part 1 is about the crimes.
[01:52:06.000 --> 01:52:11.000]  So you're going to want to find something in the crimes that lines up with what he did,
[01:52:11.000 --> 01:52:18.000]  whether that's malicious mischief or having access to your personal data when he shouldn't have.
[01:52:18.000 --> 01:52:25.000]  And it may get a little fuzzy there because you gave him permission at one point,
[01:52:25.000 --> 01:52:27.000]  and what's written on there?
[01:52:27.000 --> 01:52:30.000]  Does it say, you may run a background check?
[01:52:30.000 --> 01:52:34.000]  Well, then in that case, he could run, he could still do it 14 months later.
[01:52:34.000 --> 01:52:38.000]  Or does it say, you may run a background check for the next seven days?
[01:52:38.000 --> 01:52:41.000]  Okay, now you've got yourself covered.
[01:52:41.000 --> 01:52:42.000]  You know what I'm saying?
[01:52:42.000 --> 01:52:44.000]  Yeah.
[01:52:44.000 --> 01:52:47.000]  So take a look at that.
[01:52:47.000 --> 01:52:53.000]  Yeah, well, he did what he needed to do to determine that I would be a lieutenant,
[01:52:53.000 --> 01:52:55.000]  which I've done.
[01:52:55.000 --> 01:52:56.000]  Yeah.
[01:52:56.000 --> 01:53:01.000]  Yeah, I can talk about my speculation as to why,
[01:53:01.000 --> 01:53:05.000]  but I know that every time they're able to turn over a unit, they can charge more money.
[01:53:05.000 --> 01:53:07.000]  This is the money graph.
[01:53:07.000 --> 01:53:09.000]  Oh, yeah, and that's the kind of thing.
[01:53:09.000 --> 01:53:14.000]  See, that's common sense, and that's human figuring things out.
[01:53:14.000 --> 01:53:17.000]  And that would work great if you're in front of a jury.
[01:53:17.000 --> 01:53:22.000]  If you're suing him and you need a jury to believe you, absolutely.
[01:53:22.000 --> 01:53:24.000]  All of that matters.
[01:53:24.000 --> 01:53:26.000]  But you're not.
[01:53:26.000 --> 01:53:31.000]  You're sitting over on another hillside with a sniper rifle,
[01:53:31.000 --> 01:53:35.000]  and you're wanting to ring his bell with a criminal complaint.
[01:53:35.000 --> 01:53:37.000]  So it has to be all contained in the package,
[01:53:37.000 --> 01:53:41.000]  and it has to be limited to only what the offense is.
[01:53:41.000 --> 01:53:45.000]  The offense will have some specific language you can copy and paste from the offense
[01:53:45.000 --> 01:53:47.000]  to make your criminal complaint.
[01:53:47.000 --> 01:53:50.000]  And you just, you know, wherever it says,
[01:53:50.000 --> 01:53:54.000]  a person commits this offense if they do such and such.
[01:53:54.000 --> 01:53:58.000]  And it's all in this, like, conditional, subjunctive kind of tense.
[01:53:58.000 --> 01:54:01.000]  And you just change it all over to past tense, and you say, he did this.
[01:54:01.000 --> 01:54:02.000]  This is what he did.
[01:54:02.000 --> 01:54:04.000]  He did this. He did this.
[01:54:04.000 --> 01:54:12.000]  And just use the same language exactly as it stands, and then attach your facts, the facts set to that.
[01:54:12.000 --> 01:54:15.000]  You know, and if it says whatever, without lawful justification,
[01:54:15.000 --> 01:54:21.000]  well, then you're going to have to find where does it define what lawful justification means.
[01:54:21.000 --> 01:54:25.000]  And you can claim that he didn't have it.
[01:54:25.000 --> 01:54:27.000]  He did not have effective consent.
[01:54:27.000 --> 01:54:32.000]  Or whatever is the phrase that's used in the language of the crime,
[01:54:32.000 --> 01:54:35.000]  then that's exactly what you're accusing him of.
[01:54:35.000 --> 01:54:39.000]  And yes, you're right about why he would want to do that.
[01:54:39.000 --> 01:54:45.000]  And of course, it makes sense, but he shouldn't be able to do this 14 months later.
[01:54:45.000 --> 01:54:51.000]  And yes, it makes sense that he's just trying to get more money because prices are going crazy.
[01:54:51.000 --> 01:54:57.000]  And that doesn't matter in terms of reporting his crime.
[01:54:57.000 --> 01:55:02.000]  You want to stick to just exactly what's going on,
[01:55:02.000 --> 01:55:08.000]  facts that support the essential elements of that offense, and leave the rest out.
[01:55:08.000 --> 01:55:10.000]  There's no fluff for the lawyers to jump on.
[01:55:10.000 --> 01:55:13.000]  They'll pull this other piece of yarn that doesn't really have anything to do with it,
[01:55:13.000 --> 01:55:16.000]  and they'll just talk all night about that.
[01:55:16.000 --> 01:55:18.000]  Okay.
[01:55:18.000 --> 01:55:21.000]  Yeah, it's been pretty intense.
[01:55:21.000 --> 01:55:25.000]  My cease and desist letter did seem to have an effect.
[01:55:25.000 --> 01:55:30.000]  He had stopped calling because he was calling me daytime, nighttime, Saturday, too.
[01:55:30.000 --> 01:55:31.000]  Wow.
[01:55:31.000 --> 01:55:33.000]  He didn't stop emailing me.
[01:55:33.000 --> 01:55:37.000]  Congratulations.
[01:55:37.000 --> 01:55:38.000]  What?
[01:55:38.000 --> 01:55:41.000]  I'm glad that worked.
[01:55:41.000 --> 01:55:45.000]  Apparently so, but he did email me saying,
[01:55:45.000 --> 01:55:59.000]  oh, it was malicious of you to accuse me of stalking and harassing you.
[01:55:59.000 --> 01:56:01.000]  How rude of you.
[01:56:01.000 --> 01:56:02.000]  How rude of me.
[01:56:02.000 --> 01:56:03.000]  How about that?
[01:56:03.000 --> 01:56:07.000]  Well, when I become a comedy writer, I will include the story,
[01:56:07.000 --> 01:56:12.000]  but in the meantime, I've got to weather this storm because it has not been fun.
[01:56:12.000 --> 01:56:18.000]  It's pulling me away from everything else that I need to focus upon and get done.
[01:56:18.000 --> 01:56:23.000]  So in a way, I feel like my life is being hijacked by this lunatic.
[01:56:23.000 --> 01:56:25.000]  Yeah.
[01:56:25.000 --> 01:56:27.000]  Well, I'm sorry.
[01:56:27.000 --> 01:56:29.000]  I can't identify with that feeling.
[01:56:29.000 --> 01:56:35.000]  It happens for all sorts of different reasons, you know, whether it's a landlord
[01:56:35.000 --> 01:56:40.000]  or whether it's a traffic accusation.
[01:56:40.000 --> 01:56:42.000]  If you want to stand up for what's right,
[01:56:42.000 --> 01:56:46.000]  it definitely does feel like your life is getting hijacked.
[01:56:46.000 --> 01:56:48.000]  I'm sorry to say.
[01:56:48.000 --> 01:56:50.000]  Well, I do.
[01:56:50.000 --> 01:56:51.000]  And you know what?
[01:56:51.000 --> 01:56:56.000]  Even though it's rough as all get out, I feel like I am on the battlefield.
[01:56:56.000 --> 01:57:01.000]  And I want to do what is necessary so that nobody else has to go through this
[01:57:01.000 --> 01:57:05.000]  because this is pattern, not precedent, Brett.
[01:57:05.000 --> 01:57:10.000]  And so if this makes it stop for anybody else, then yes, I will do this.
[01:57:10.000 --> 01:57:15.000]  And I'm not trying to martyr myself, you know, but he's out of control.
[01:57:15.000 --> 01:57:17.000]  And I know that I'm not the only one.
[01:57:17.000 --> 01:57:21.000]  He has done this too.
[01:57:21.000 --> 01:57:23.000]  And that brings up an interesting point.
[01:57:23.000 --> 01:57:28.000]  If you're able to contact anybody else who has been a previous tenant,
[01:57:28.000 --> 01:57:30.000]  you might run into some interesting stories,
[01:57:30.000 --> 01:57:34.000]  and they might even want to report and do some criminal complaints as well.
[01:57:34.000 --> 01:57:37.000]  I do have numbers of previous tenants, yeah.
[01:57:37.000 --> 01:57:40.000]  Who knows? They might want to sue him.
[01:57:40.000 --> 01:57:42.000]  Yeah, well, I'm going to make the calls.
[01:57:42.000 --> 01:57:45.000]  One said they would give a written statement,
[01:57:45.000 --> 01:57:48.000]  but I think people get a little uncomfortable about, you know,
[01:57:48.000 --> 01:57:53.000]  when you start involving the law, they get a little, you know, kind of...
[01:57:53.000 --> 01:57:56.000]  Right. Yeah, nobody knows exactly what's going to happen.
[01:57:56.000 --> 01:58:00.000]  Do I have to show up in court? Oh, that's scary.
[01:58:00.000 --> 01:58:03.000]  Yeah. Yeah.
[01:58:03.000 --> 01:58:06.000]  Well, thank you, Brett. I really appreciate it.
[01:58:06.000 --> 01:58:09.000]  Yeah. Well, thanks for calling in, Bina.
[01:58:09.000 --> 01:58:12.000]  I'm sorry we didn't get to everybody tonight.
[01:58:12.000 --> 01:58:14.000]  We almost did.
[01:58:14.000 --> 01:58:19.000]  And we're going to be... tomorrow evening is our four-hour...
[01:58:19.000 --> 01:58:23.000]  Randy calls it the four-hour marathon.
[01:58:23.000 --> 01:58:27.000]  And hopefully, Randy will be with us tomorrow evening.
[01:58:27.000 --> 01:58:30.000]  Thanks to everyone who called in.
[01:58:30.000 --> 01:58:35.000]  If we didn't get to everything, we'll see if we can't reach out to you on Telegram,
[01:58:35.000 --> 01:58:41.000]  the Telegram groups there, the Law Society.
[01:58:41.000 --> 01:58:50.000]  And we'll talk to you tomorrow. Good evening.
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