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[00:00.000 --> 00:06.300]  The Bill of Rights contains the first 10 amendments of our Constitution that guarantee
[00:06.300 --> 00:09.500]  the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[00:09.500 --> 00:10.980]  Our liberty depends on it.
[00:10.980 --> 00:14.900]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember
[00:14.900 --> 00:17.020]  your First Amendment rights.
[00:17.020 --> 00:18.600]  Privacy is under attack.
[00:18.600 --> 00:22.200]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[00:22.200 --> 00:26.980]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[00:26.980 --> 00:32.040]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
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[00:44.680 --> 00:47.840]  Spar, it's what fighters do.
[00:47.840 --> 00:50.800]  It's also how I remember the five guarantees of the First Amendment.
[00:50.800 --> 00:54.600]  If you plan to take away my rights, I'm going to spar with you.
[00:54.600 --> 01:01.600]  Spar with an extra P, S for speech, P for press, another P for petition, A for assembly,
[01:01.600 --> 01:03.120]  and R for religion.
[01:03.120 --> 01:07.120]  Most Americans are familiar with the First Amendment guarantees of free speech, press,
[01:07.120 --> 01:10.920]  assembly, and religion, but petition for redress is another matter.
[01:10.920 --> 01:14.640]  We have the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
[01:14.640 --> 01:18.160]  It means that if we're unhappy with what's going on in our government, we can spell out
[01:18.160 --> 01:20.920]  the reasons without fear of being thrown into jail.
[01:20.920 --> 01:31.160]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, more news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[01:31.160 --> 01:34.840]  The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution.
[01:34.840 --> 01:38.280]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[01:38.280 --> 01:39.760]  Our liberty depends on it.
[01:39.760 --> 01:43.640]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember
[01:43.640 --> 01:46.800]  one of your constitutional rights.
[01:46.800 --> 01:48.380]  Privacy is under attack.
[01:48.380 --> 01:52.000]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[01:52.000 --> 01:56.760]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish, too.
[01:56.760 --> 02:01.840]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
[02:01.840 --> 02:04.520]  Privacy, it's worth hanging onto.
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[02:15.940 --> 02:20.280]  When I think of the Second Amendment, I visualize myself wrapping my two arms around the Bill
[02:20.280 --> 02:22.360]  of Rights in a big old bear hug.
[02:22.360 --> 02:26.880]  It's how I remember that the Second Amendment guarantees us the right to bear arms, arms
[02:26.880 --> 02:30.680]  that embrace our freedoms and won't let anyone take them away without a fight.
[02:30.680 --> 02:31.680]  Get it?
[02:31.680 --> 02:34.000]  Two arms, bear hug, bear arms?
[02:34.000 --> 02:37.600]  The late Senator Hubert Humphrey captured the spirit of the Second Amendment so well
[02:37.600 --> 02:43.360]  when he said, the right of the citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary
[02:43.360 --> 02:47.920]  conduct, one more safeguard against the tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which
[02:47.920 --> 02:50.560]  historically has proved to always be possible.
[02:50.560 --> 02:52.520]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht.
[02:52.520 --> 03:14.040]  More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[03:14.040 --> 03:39.520]  We are originators and the pathway seems to get straighter every day.
[03:39.520 --> 03:55.080]  And I can take anything that belongs to me and do it to a good use, but I was good for
[03:55.080 --> 03:56.080]  the gander, gonna work for the good.
[03:56.080 --> 04:07.080]  I know some architects, I know some engineers, they've seen the evidence, they know a certain
[04:07.080 --> 04:09.720]  standard.
[04:09.720 --> 04:11.800]  Okay, we are back.
[04:11.800 --> 04:17.720]  Randy Kalten, Brett Fountain, Rue of My Radio and we're talking to Angela in Wyoming and
[04:17.720 --> 04:21.320]  what was your question for us?
[04:21.320 --> 04:27.800]  Oh, I guess I can hear you better if I unmute you.
[04:27.800 --> 04:29.200]  Okay, I'm sorry about that.
[04:29.200 --> 04:30.200]  That's fine.
[04:30.200 --> 04:36.800]  I was just asking if that's normal for a judge to just ignore when side of the party
[04:36.800 --> 04:41.760]  party's documents and everything because that's what he did. He didn't even do anything, he died.
[04:42.880 --> 04:47.920]  Yeah absolutely and that generally gets a request for reconsideration
[04:47.920 --> 04:54.400]  and you point out what the judge ignored. Welcome to the club. Yeah and he denied it still.
[04:55.360 --> 05:01.280]  I'm like and I'm not asking him to put stuff in there for me. I did it all. I pointed to every
[05:01.280 --> 05:06.080]  law she broke, everything pointed it out. I could stand and see with my kid I did all that and he
[05:06.080 --> 05:15.920]  ignored me. Okay one thing to keep foremost in mind, your only purpose in the trial court
[05:17.120 --> 05:23.040]  is to set the record for appeal. You should never expect to win in the trial court.
[05:24.720 --> 05:31.760]  You might, you might, but you also might win the lottery. That's not where the action is.
[05:31.760 --> 05:39.200]  Your purpose is to get the facts and law on the record and when you get to the court of appeals,
[05:39.200 --> 05:44.400]  facts and law are what they're going to want to pay attention to. They're going to want to see
[05:44.400 --> 05:49.200]  the facts and they're going to want to see how the judge applied the law to the facts.
[05:51.040 --> 05:55.840]  So you're not to, you shouldn't be worried about what the judge himself rules.
[05:55.840 --> 06:03.680]  The worse his rulings, the better for you. Yeah, but you should ask for findings in fact
[06:03.680 --> 06:12.000]  and conclusions for each issue that was not addressed. I did. Good, you've done your job.
[06:12.000 --> 06:19.040]  You're covered for appeal. Good, all right. Well I just thought that was normal because it was weird.
[06:19.040 --> 06:24.880]  Anyway, did you file criminal charges against the judge for official misconduct?
[06:25.760 --> 06:32.720]  No, because they won't do that. Oh yeah, they will. We got a methodology for that.
[06:34.560 --> 06:39.280]  So I want to say something. Oh yeah, I've filed a petition for declaratory judgment
[06:40.720 --> 06:46.080]  and a lawyer from Lock Lord, one of the largest law firms in the country, told the judge,
[06:46.080 --> 06:51.600]  you should dismiss this under rule 12b6 for failure to state a claim which recovery can be had.
[06:53.280 --> 06:58.400]  Well, he was right about that. There were no claims for which recovery can be had
[06:58.400 --> 07:02.080]  because it was a declaratory judgment suit. They don't have claims.
[07:04.160 --> 07:11.920]  And Judge McBride, he was a real stinker in Fort Worth. He dismissed it with prejudice
[07:11.920 --> 07:24.320]  for failure to state a claim. So I filed criminal charges with the special agent in charge of the
[07:24.320 --> 07:32.400]  FBI for Dallas. If you go to the FBI's website, there's only one agent whose name you can find
[07:32.400 --> 07:44.320]  and that's the special agent in charge. I was in Pennsylvania and I was filing complaints with the
[07:44.960 --> 07:55.840]  FBI claiming that federal officials had been creating warrants, signing their name to them
[07:56.880 --> 08:01.760]  because they're allowed to do that in the Fed. If the Fed needs a warrant right away, he can do
[08:01.760 --> 08:05.680]  it right away. He can call a judge and the judge can authorize him to sign a warrant.
[08:07.440 --> 08:18.880]  So it's not unusual for local law enforcement to see a federal warrant with a FBI or ATF
[08:19.760 --> 08:25.760]  with an agent's name on it because that's allowed if the judge authorizes it.
[08:25.760 --> 08:32.000]  I was getting a lot of people coming to me saying that the ATF came into their house at two in the
[08:32.000 --> 08:37.280]  morning and sent the police in. The police drug them out. The ATF went in and took guns, money,
[08:38.560 --> 08:47.200]  computers and then left and there never was a prosecution. So I did some research and it turns
[08:47.200 --> 08:56.560]  out that if a warrant is issued and the warrant is sealed, there is no case number in the public record.
[08:59.520 --> 09:07.680]  And that a FBI agent or ATF can call a judge and say I need a warrant and sign it. So agents can
[09:07.680 --> 09:14.640]  sign warrants. So let's say I'm a chief of police and the ATF comes to me at two in the morning and
[09:14.640 --> 09:22.880]  says I've got this warrant. It's a sealed warrant. Well, since it's sealed, there's no way for me to
[09:22.880 --> 09:27.280]  check on it because the number of the sealed warrant has been removed from the record.
[09:29.280 --> 09:34.640]  So he checks the sealed warrant and they say there is no such number in the record.
[09:35.680 --> 09:42.800]  But that can mean it's sealed. So that's not unusual. So what's the chief to do? They want
[09:42.800 --> 09:48.720]  him to run security for them. So he goes out and has the people drug out of the house and the ATF,
[09:48.720 --> 09:53.840]  the FBI goes in and that's what they do and they thank the chief and everybody goes home.
[09:55.680 --> 10:00.640]  Well, what if the guy just wrote up a warrant and put his and signed his name on it and it never
[10:00.640 --> 10:10.160]  existed in the first place? It just disappears. So I went to the FBI to file a criminal complaint on
[10:10.160 --> 10:20.640]  this and Debra was with me. This was in Philadelphia and Debra was in a black top and skirt. She looked
[10:20.640 --> 10:28.160]  hot and talking to this young FBI agent and he keeps looking over at her, the head tremble
[10:28.160 --> 10:35.920]  concentrating on me and I tell him what I want to do and he asked me if I'd ever filed a complaint
[10:35.920 --> 10:40.640]  before and I said I tried to once and she said, well, what was it about? It was about a murder by
[10:40.640 --> 10:48.240]  jail guards in a jail in Bear County and that really got his attention. So he was kind of
[10:48.240 --> 10:57.200]  excited. He thought he was going to get a career making bust here and he asked me to file that with
[10:57.200 --> 11:04.000]  him. I said, well, who are you? He said, he kind of ducked his head and said, you know,
[11:04.000 --> 11:16.800]  we're not allowed to reveal our identities. Say what? He's got on this garish blue tie.
[11:17.920 --> 11:25.920]  I said, so what am I supposed to call you, secret agent blue tie? And if the guy could have got
[11:25.920 --> 11:34.880]  under the table he would and Debra just fell out the floor laughing. They won't tell you who they are. Okay,
[11:34.880 --> 11:41.920]  there is one name you can find and that is the special agent in charge, the local sack.
[11:43.360 --> 11:50.640]  So I sent a criminal complaint to the special agent in charge of the local FBI accusing Judge McBride
[11:50.640 --> 12:00.720]  of official oppression, violation 18 US code 242. Oh, that was a hoot. I had three other people file
[12:00.720 --> 12:08.560]  that same document in different foreclosure cases in Fort Worth and McBride did not dismiss one of
[12:08.560 --> 12:18.560]  them. Now I didn't get him arrested, but I got that problem fixed. When this FBI agent went down
[12:18.560 --> 12:25.120]  there to talk to the federal judge and showed him my presentation where I showed that it didn't have
[12:25.120 --> 12:36.560]  a, a challenge, the declaratory judgment suit doesn't have claims. What I have found is for the
[12:36.560 --> 12:41.840]  most part it's relatively new. The judges don't know what it is and they tend to screw it up.
[12:41.840 --> 12:51.280]  So if the judge dismissed and he didn't address each of the issues, file a complaint with the FBI,
[12:52.000 --> 12:57.840]  accuse the judge of denying you in your right to petition the court for redress of grievance.
[13:00.080 --> 13:05.600]  Let him explain it to them. Now they will never say a word to you.
[13:05.600 --> 13:12.640]  That would be retaliation, witness tampering, but you can be pretty sure it's judge get a lot more
[13:12.640 --> 13:23.520]  careful. Yeah. That's, that sounds interesting. Yes. I just wondered how I can put it across to the
[13:23.520 --> 13:30.000]  appeal, which what I did is just pointed out what he all missed over. See you, you have a right
[13:30.000 --> 13:36.160]  to a ruling on every issue that you brought. If he doesn't rule on that, he's denied you your access
[13:36.160 --> 13:44.960]  to the court. Now a lawyer would never do such a thing because the judge would screw his next client
[13:44.960 --> 13:48.880]  to get back at it, but you're not going to have a next client. So you don't care if the judge is mad
[13:48.880 --> 14:02.960]  at it, but you're not going to have a next client. So you don't care if the judge is mad or not. Okay.
[14:02.960 --> 14:06.800]  Do you have anything else for us? Nope. That's it. Thank you so much.
[14:07.600 --> 14:16.080]  Okay. Thank you, Angela. Now we're going to go to Shane in New York. Shane, what is going on?
[14:16.080 --> 14:25.680]  You called before the last segment. Oh, wait, I didn't get you unmuted. Okay. There you go.
[14:26.640 --> 14:34.640]  How are you doing, Randy? Doing pretty good. I'll be real short. I just want to let you know that
[14:34.640 --> 14:39.680]  I'm going to have six attorneys, not this Friday, but the following Friday, their motion to
[14:39.680 --> 14:47.600]  dismiss my lawsuit against KeyBank. And it's going to be a total of 33 defendants. And so I got my
[14:47.600 --> 14:54.400]  answer all done. I just finished it up tonight. And what was the last document you emailed to me?
[14:56.400 --> 15:05.920]  That's my motion to compel Mr. Cooper to produce documents, which was due on Monday. And I sent it
[15:05.920 --> 15:16.000]  to you, but it's about four pages long. Nicely done. Thank you. That looks like a lawyer did it.
[15:17.840 --> 15:24.560]  Well, I've been in this... I'll tell you, it all started with you and I watched a show on Alex Jones
[15:24.560 --> 15:31.200]  Show years ago, probably 11, 12, 13, 14 years ago. That's when it all started off for me anyway.
[15:31.200 --> 15:36.320]  Over the years, you get better and better at writing these things up.
[15:38.640 --> 15:42.480]  Yeah. How long have you been working on your mom's foreclosure?
[15:43.920 --> 15:47.360]  Since 2015, Randy, January 2015.
[15:47.360 --> 16:00.320]  And you're still hammering them. Yeah. Shane does nice work. Okay. What do you have for us today?
[16:01.760 --> 16:08.240]  Well, just want to ask you really quick. I have a big hearing coming up next Friday.
[16:09.120 --> 16:12.960]  And like I said, there's going to be probably about six, maybe even seven attorneys. Who knows
[16:12.960 --> 16:18.400]  I'm going to show up for the law firm and key bank because they have all the officers that
[16:18.400 --> 16:24.000]  we talked about before. And I'm not sure how it's going to go, but they keep on bringing
[16:24.000 --> 16:28.240]  up Rose Judicata. Rose Judicata, there was already a judgment for closure and commencement,
[16:28.240 --> 16:33.200]  but that was for all my mom's kids, not for me. And they tried to sell the property back in April
[16:33.920 --> 16:40.720]  and we are going to a commercial. Okay. We had 20 seconds, but okay.
[16:40.720 --> 16:46.800]  Okay. Randy Kalden, Brett Fountain, Louisville radio. If we got a couple of slots in, one slot
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[19:24.080 --> 19:29.280]  Know what I mean? My friend, and all of your choices. Come on.
[19:54.640 --> 19:57.680]  He's everything to me. That's why I call him
[19:59.280 --> 20:03.280]  and I pray to him because he's the only one who could answer me.
[20:04.240 --> 20:06.240]  I'm in the business of what I can say.
[20:09.280 --> 20:11.280]  I'm trusting God.
[20:12.960 --> 20:14.080]  Telling you problems and
[20:14.080 --> 20:24.080]  saying
[20:37.920 --> 20:43.600]  okay we are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio. We're talking to Shane in
[20:43.600 --> 20:50.800]  New York and if any of you have trouble understanding Shane, let me know. I used to
[20:50.800 --> 20:57.760]  live up north. I speak Yankee. I can interpret. Go ahead, Shane.
[20:59.520 --> 21:09.520]  Well, what I forgot to tell you is the court is, the judge is called, the judge is a judge that
[21:09.520 --> 21:14.480]  we were in front of four years ago and he granted summary judgment in favor of HSBC,
[21:14.480 --> 21:21.760]  which was the first lien holder back in January 2018, Randy. They were going to sell the house
[21:21.760 --> 21:29.520]  March of 2018 and he changed the caption from HSBC to the Federal National Mortgage Association
[21:29.520 --> 21:32.960]  and at that time, Rosicke and Rosicke were the law firms. So they're ready to sell the
[21:32.960 --> 21:37.440]  house with the first lien holder. I think I mentioned this to you before but approximately
[21:37.440 --> 21:42.640]  two weeks later, they got indicted, stopped to sell the property. They got indicted for foreclosure
[21:42.640 --> 21:51.600]  fraud, the whole law firm. Yeah, I remember that. He's a former, I'm sorry? I said I remember that.
[21:52.400 --> 22:00.480]  Yeah, Thomas Rosicke is a former FBI agent and his wife, Cynthia, they were basically getting
[22:00.480 --> 22:04.560]  millions of dollars, I mean it was disgusting, millions of dollars to open up wine vineyards in
[22:04.560 --> 22:09.520]  upstate New York and just robbing people's properties and using the Federal National
[22:09.520 --> 22:13.920]  Mortgage Association's name and they got nailed. So that stopped the sale of the property.
[22:15.520 --> 22:23.200]  And then 2018 to 19 and also March 25, 2020, three times your old key bank tried to sell it
[22:24.400 --> 22:28.320]  and they never had no standing to sell the property or using a junior lien holder.
[22:28.320 --> 22:34.720]  And my mom's bankruptcy case was already granted discharges of Chapter 7 and Chapter 7 is supposed
[22:34.720 --> 22:40.080]  to wipe out a key lock. So I want to give you a quick review of that. So that's what my whole
[22:40.080 --> 22:45.200]  theory is going into my cause of action is they're trying to sell a property that belongs to me
[22:45.680 --> 22:51.280]  and I've never been served. They've never given me any type of notice and as we talked before,
[22:51.280 --> 22:57.920]  April 18, 2022, for a fifth time they try to sell the property and there's not even any type of
[22:57.920 --> 23:03.760]  any type of debt owed because it was already discharged to my mom's bankruptcy under Chapter
[23:03.760 --> 23:09.520]  7. And the first lien holder can't sell it and the second lien holder, which is a junior lien
[23:09.520 --> 23:14.560]  holder, was already discharged under Chapter 7. So that's the cliff notes. So that's where we're at
[23:14.560 --> 23:20.000]  and my answer is almost done and I've been working on it diligently. I'll probably work on it for
[23:20.000 --> 23:25.920]  about an hour tonight and the answer is due on Monday, which is in a couple of days.
[23:25.920 --> 23:33.760]  And so anyways, that's where I'm at. Well, I'm not sure exactly if you've seen it or not,
[23:33.760 --> 23:38.640]  but I'm working hard on it. You've done really well to hold them off this long.
[23:41.040 --> 23:44.880]  And have you been putting some money in the bank each month?
[23:49.520 --> 23:53.520]  Yeah, a little bit. Yes, I've been working hard and prevailing in this case, but
[23:53.520 --> 24:00.000]  Randy, I don't know how they're going to sell the property. I don't know how they're going to do
[24:00.000 --> 24:05.200]  it. And by the way, the statute of limitations are running. I'm just not sure. It all started
[24:05.200 --> 24:12.720]  back in January 2015, but we were locked down for two years for that pandemic. So I'm not sure that
[24:12.720 --> 24:20.160]  if you subtract two years from that. Well, no, wait a minute. Did the courts close?
[24:20.160 --> 24:30.880]  Yeah, New York had an order stopping all foreclosure sales from March 2020, all the way up to January
[24:30.880 --> 24:41.760]  2022. Okay, those two years won't count then. Won't count. Right. So that's correct. So the
[24:41.760 --> 24:46.960]  statute of limitations are running as we speak, but I also want to let you know that I also filed
[24:46.960 --> 24:53.920]  a small claims against the referee four years ago. We just had the hearing this week, and they
[24:53.920 --> 25:01.200]  dismissed it with prejudice because they said the court lacked jurisdiction to hear her claim,
[25:01.200 --> 25:10.880]  actually my claim against her. So how did they get there? I filed a small claim in Buffalo City
[25:10.880 --> 25:18.400]  Court back in 2018. And I catch all my damages and all the money I spent, because they were just
[25:18.400 --> 25:27.360]  basically removing me from notices on the property that actually really belongs to me. And so I sued
[25:27.360 --> 25:33.760]  the referee and I went in the small claims court this Monday. And they had all these subpoenas
[25:33.760 --> 25:37.200]  ready to go. I had all my exhibits ready to go. And she says we can't hear the case because the
[25:37.200 --> 25:41.760]  court lacked jurisdiction. And of course, I objected on to the record, I'm going to appeal
[25:41.760 --> 25:48.480]  and take it to the county level. And so, but that referee is also being sued in the state court too.
[25:49.360 --> 25:53.760]  Good. Which is going to be heard in a couple. By the way, her answer to the lawsuit,
[25:54.960 --> 26:00.320]  she says she joins all the attorneys in this matter and her by move for dismissal for failure
[26:00.320 --> 26:05.360]  to state a claim, which relief can be granted. Her answer was literally five sentences. So
[26:05.360 --> 26:07.920]  her answer was literally five sentences. That was it.
[26:11.520 --> 26:15.520]  So, okay, that's what's coming up with her five sentence answer.
[26:16.960 --> 26:22.880]  Yeah, she joined everybody else's answer and everybody else, like the attorneys that represent
[26:22.880 --> 26:28.560]  all 31 officers for KeyBank and five attorneys with Fine Such and Crane in Rochester,
[26:28.560 --> 26:36.400]  she did join both of their answers. How many times have you bar grieved these guys?
[26:36.400 --> 26:44.000]  Fine Such and Crane, about 10 times. 10 times in the last six years. And one of them actually got
[26:44.000 --> 26:50.560]  stung. And I filed that grievancy report into the case and they filed a motion to seal it in the
[26:50.560 --> 26:54.240]  state case and seal it in the federal case. And both of them were granted. Eventually the federal
[26:54.240 --> 26:59.440]  case was granted last week to remove that exhibit and they sealed it where the bar came back and
[27:00.160 --> 27:05.920]  stole it. It's a permanent mark on his record. And this is a warning. And what he did, he
[27:06.640 --> 27:12.400]  talked about all the grievances he was filing with all the different agencies, federal and state,
[27:12.400 --> 27:16.160]  and he put it on the public record, which you can't do because now you waive confidentiality.
[27:17.200 --> 27:21.360]  Exactly. That's one of the problems the lawyers have when you sting them.
[27:21.360 --> 27:27.280]  Yeah. They can't say anything about it. If they say a word about it, you sting them for that.
[27:28.960 --> 27:35.680]  So, you definitely did not call me for any new information.
[27:37.200 --> 27:42.720]  If I go back into doing foreclosures, I'll be calling you for advice.
[27:42.720 --> 27:47.040]  Well, it's a learning experience, but Randy, the thing I want to tell you, and I'm not sure how many
[27:47.040 --> 27:51.920]  people are listening in tonight, if you really want to win, you got to do this yourself. You got to
[27:51.920 --> 27:58.960]  get off your behind and you got to research other cases. These attorneys are not going to do
[27:58.960 --> 28:04.400]  nothing with you. I've contacted so many, at least 12 attorneys in the last eight years. All of them
[28:04.400 --> 28:10.720]  were complete duds. They'd be lucky if they didn't have to do anything with you. I've contacted
[28:10.720 --> 28:15.200]  so many attorneys. They'd be lucky if they could, and then they would get mad at you. They would get
[28:15.200 --> 28:21.280]  mad at you for challenging standing on them, the foreclosure. They would get mad, oh, you can't do
[28:21.280 --> 28:28.560]  that. You can't have discovery. You can't be a plaintiff. So anyways, if you really want to win,
[28:29.680 --> 28:32.880]  you got to learn this stuff and you got to know what you're doing. Otherwise,
[28:34.400 --> 28:38.000]  you're not going to have a chance because these attorneys will take hundreds, maybe thousands of
[28:38.000 --> 28:43.360]  dollars, and they will not perform at all. They say they'll perform, but when it comes right down
[28:43.360 --> 28:47.200]  to the day that it's due, they won't file anything. It's very, very rare you get somebody that'll
[28:47.200 --> 28:54.400]  actually file something or do anything. Send me an email. I want to talk to you off the air
[28:57.760 --> 29:05.520]  about a project I'm working on. Randy, I just want to make it clear to you. When I was a youngster,
[29:05.520 --> 29:11.040]  which was about maybe a good 15 years ago, I remember I used to listen to your show,
[29:11.040 --> 29:16.240]  and you were on there a couple of times. I know if you can remember that, when you were Alex Jones,
[29:16.240 --> 29:22.400]  you were talking about the derivatives and how the whole thing works and how they're just taking
[29:22.400 --> 29:26.960]  people's property away. Some of these people even have their properties paid off in full,
[29:26.960 --> 29:39.120]  and they're still taking them away. Okay. Let's talk about... Do you have anything else for the
[29:39.120 --> 29:43.360]  other side? No, we're all set, Randy. Thank you very much. I just wasn't going to ask you what
[29:43.360 --> 29:50.000]  you thought. Send me an email. I want to talk to you off the air. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain,
[29:50.000 --> 29:58.080]  Woodlaw Radio. We're going to our sponsors. Let's see. We've got almost a full board.
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[33:42.400 --> 33:49.040]  I won't let you pull the wool over my eye
[33:49.040 --> 33:56.640]  They must refuse your news also come in lie
[33:56.640 --> 34:02.640]  It seems you like to say, but please take some words
[34:02.640 --> 34:07.760]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain. We love radio and we're going to Tennessee.
[34:08.880 --> 34:15.440]  We've got Olivier, who's actually not in Tennessee anymore, but he was in Tennessee. We got Danny
[34:15.440 --> 34:21.680]  down there. Danny, I know you dropped off from above and we'll get to you. I want to go to
[34:21.680 --> 34:26.400]  Olivier because Olivier is a lot more fun than you are, Danny. You're too serious.
[34:27.360 --> 34:35.040]  Olivier's beating them up pretty bad. So don't go away, Danny. We'll get to you. Okay, Olivier,
[34:35.040 --> 34:43.760]  what do you have for us today? How you doing, Randy? And let me apologize. I always call you Olivier.
[34:43.760 --> 34:51.200]  For everybody else, that's his last name. His first name is Martichet. So I should be calling
[34:51.200 --> 35:00.640]  you Martichet. Okay, go ahead. Hey, don't worry. Okay, this is dealing with the illusion that they
[35:00.640 --> 35:14.560]  have, that they're using to lead the masses and to think in a certain way. I remember watching cops
[35:15.680 --> 35:20.160]  and they're always, you know, showing you something, you know, pulling over somebody,
[35:20.160 --> 35:26.720]  tell lies, you know, arresting some drug addict. And I remember at the end of it, I just didn't
[35:26.720 --> 35:37.840]  feel right at the end of the show. It always said, the person is innocent until proven guilty.
[35:38.560 --> 35:43.920]  And, you know, I did not know the law back then and something always rang a bell at the end of
[35:43.920 --> 35:49.440]  the show. I'm like, man, something's going on here. I just didn't understand it. But now,
[35:50.160 --> 35:56.320]  last week we had a situation where a sheriff deputy decided to push his weight around
[35:56.320 --> 36:03.920]  and pull us over while we was traveling with a dolly stating that we was violating some type
[36:03.920 --> 36:10.480]  of statute, some light statute, registration statute, and all that. Before we left the scene,
[36:11.120 --> 36:18.640]  we've already concluded that the officer was way out of the box. I contacted the DMV. DMV pulled
[36:18.640 --> 36:26.880]  up all the documents, send it to me an email, also ran my plate to see if the officer could have
[36:26.880 --> 36:32.720]  possibly known who I was because I was in the passenger seat. And she was very highly upset
[36:32.720 --> 36:42.320]  about that. So that whole situation caused me to go ahead and look into the case a little further.
[36:42.320 --> 36:51.360]  And as I'm reading in the higher courts, I've come to find out that this perception of
[36:53.600 --> 36:59.040]  if your taillight is out, the police have the right to stop you is false.
[37:02.240 --> 37:10.240]  And in the head, as far as the taillight cases are concerned, I've read the higher courts state
[37:10.240 --> 37:18.720]  that the statute refers to two taillamps being in the back of the vehicle.
[37:20.160 --> 37:26.960]  So police will pull you over if you have a cracked headlamp or one of your lamps are out.
[37:28.080 --> 37:34.320]  What the courts have ruled in Florida, the higher courts have ruled in Florida is that the statute
[37:34.320 --> 37:46.560]  only refers to two lights being displayed on the rear. It says that nowadays most vehicles
[37:47.120 --> 37:54.160]  have more than two lights. It says the statute says nothing about the lights being defective.
[37:54.160 --> 38:04.400]  It says that there must be two lights present. So in the certain cases where the officers
[38:05.200 --> 38:12.640]  stop individuals because one of their taillights had a crack in it and it was illuminating
[38:12.640 --> 38:20.800]  white light, the court said that's trash. The statute says nothing about a crack in your lens
[38:20.800 --> 38:26.320]  or white light showing. It doesn't say anything of that nature in the language.
[38:26.960 --> 38:32.560]  And then it also says that the language only says that there are two lights that should be on the
[38:32.560 --> 38:41.440]  rear. That means it's said that most cars are made with more than two lights. So if one of those
[38:41.440 --> 38:45.680]  lights are out, it does not give the police probable cause to pull you over.
[38:45.680 --> 38:50.160]  And I'm sitting here looking at this, I'm like, is this in black and white? I'm like, this is crazy.
[38:50.800 --> 39:00.240]  So they spent all that money putting on this show to program us to thinking that, oh, it's okay
[39:00.880 --> 39:08.320]  for them to pull us over because my light was out and it's not false arrest. That's something that
[39:08.320 --> 39:12.320]  they have the right to do. And I'm just sitting here like, yo, this is crazy.
[39:12.320 --> 39:20.240]  All that money to put on that show, the show is that trash. So we can go ahead and fall in line
[39:20.800 --> 39:32.960]  and pay these $119 through 50 and everybody's paying it. This is crazy. And then my research
[39:32.960 --> 39:42.720]  led me even further where I'm like, wow, this is crazy. So I read even more documents and the law
[39:42.720 --> 39:53.600]  says that a police officer may not pull you over simply because you failed to signal before you
[39:53.600 --> 40:03.360]  switch lanes. It says that the failure to signal before you switch lanes must put someone in harm's
[40:03.360 --> 40:14.720]  way in order for the officer to cite someone for moving into the next lane without a turn signal.
[40:14.720 --> 40:32.240]  So technically that means the officer's following you. You can move from lane to lane without
[40:32.240 --> 40:37.200]  signaling to get him to pull you over. And he has just committed false arrest.
[40:37.200 --> 40:46.640]  The cop is behind you. You don't need to put a signal. Is your signal, is putting on your signal
[40:46.640 --> 40:51.600]  going to put the, is putting on your signal, is not putting on the signal before you turn over
[40:51.600 --> 40:57.040]  lanes is going to affect the cop behind you? That's a good point.
[40:58.640 --> 41:05.120]  I'm sitting here like, wow, this is crazy. Every time something like, okay, now with my
[41:05.120 --> 41:14.560]  declaratory judgment equation going on, I can mess them up. These are two other statutes that
[41:14.560 --> 41:21.440]  I can just go and sue them and add as many as people I want. I'm guessing each person would
[41:21.440 --> 41:27.600]  have to pay about $10,000 for attorney to represent them. So if I put enough people in there, that's
[41:27.600 --> 41:37.120]  what, $50,000, $60,000 in the lower court, $50,000, $60,000, $70,000 in the appeals court, then $67,000
[41:37.120 --> 41:42.880]  in the Supreme court. And then I can go take them into the federal side and let's spend some more
[41:42.880 --> 41:51.920]  money. And we're not talking trash. We're not talking just legal, I forgot what you call it.
[41:51.920 --> 41:56.720]  We're not just talking stuff in the air. We're talking real legal issues.
[41:56.720 --> 41:59.920]  I think what you're saying is you're not talking Trump change.
[42:00.800 --> 42:08.560]  Right. So now all of this leads to something like, wow, my declaratory judgment is going to be
[42:09.760 --> 42:15.360]  forced to reckon with. Now I also have a friend that was explaining to me an issue where the
[42:15.360 --> 42:21.600]  police just pulled behind her and pulled over when she asked them why did she pull, why was
[42:21.600 --> 42:28.640]  she pulled over? The police said, oh, we just ran your plate and we saw that you had a suspended
[42:28.640 --> 42:36.160]  license. He said, well, what did I do? They're like, oh, you didn't do nothing. We just ran everybody's
[42:36.160 --> 42:44.160]  plate. I'm sitting here like, wow, like he had the audacity to say that out loud. I'm like,
[42:45.120 --> 42:49.440]  obviously they don't know that I know this thing lady. But I'm like, wow, this is another
[42:49.440 --> 42:55.600]  declaratory judgment. You just declared that you have the right to just go around and run and play
[42:55.600 --> 43:02.560]  for no reason and pulling people over. Then she asked for citations. She's like, well,
[43:02.560 --> 43:05.280]  you can't make a citation. She's like, oh, no, we got to take you to jail.
[43:07.200 --> 43:13.840]  When, oh, this is your third offense. And, you know, I clarified the offense issue before,
[43:13.840 --> 43:19.040]  so I don't know if people are not unfamiliar with it. But in order for it to be an offense,
[43:19.040 --> 43:25.280]  you have to be adjudicated guilty. So they say, oh, this is her third offense. Number one, you're
[43:25.280 --> 43:32.080]  wrong. Let's say this is the third time you pulled over. The other two, I'm pretty sure
[43:32.080 --> 43:38.160]  not all of them were adjudicated guilty. Plus this case that you just stopped her for,
[43:38.160 --> 43:41.920]  she's innocent until proven guilty. So how is it her third offense?
[43:41.920 --> 43:52.400]  Thank you. These guys are ignorant. So declaratory judgment is ripping up that issue too.
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[46:24.960 --> 46:41.120]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Bret Fountain, Rule of Law Radio,
[46:42.320 --> 46:47.600]  and we're talking to Olivier in Tennessee. But if you have, we have a couple open slots.
[46:48.480 --> 46:53.040]  If you have a question or a comment, it'd be nice if you have a question for Dr. Joe. He's
[46:53.040 --> 46:58.880]  a, he's been interesting so far. If we run out of callers, we're going to go back to Dr. Joe.
[46:58.880 --> 47:03.040]  We've got some interesting stuff to go over. If you have a question for him, give us a call,
[47:03.040 --> 47:11.920]  512-646-1984. Okay, Marty Shaddy. Go ahead.
[47:13.360 --> 47:19.440]  I left off with the officer accusing the young lady of third offense of driving on
[47:19.440 --> 47:25.600]  to send a license and he had to take her to jail. They called her, they called the supervisor out
[47:25.600 --> 47:30.320]  there. The supervisor told him that, hey, you don't have to take her to jail. You can write her a
[47:30.320 --> 47:36.320]  citation. And other officers come out and say, hey, yeah, you don't have to take her to jail.
[47:36.320 --> 47:41.120]  You can give her a citation. So I don't know what crawled up his butt. He's like, oh no,
[47:41.120 --> 47:44.560]  he has the Florida law says that he has to take her to jail.
[47:44.560 --> 47:56.720]  So the arrestor is the arrestor and basically committed false arrest plus false imprisonment.
[48:00.000 --> 48:09.200]  Okay. That's, that's a little iffy. If the law says he can release her on our own recognizance,
[48:09.200 --> 48:17.120]  then that becomes a decision for the officer. The fact that he didn't have to arrest her is
[48:17.120 --> 48:26.080]  not enough to claim false imprisonment. If he observed her committing a, an offense,
[48:26.080 --> 48:33.360]  then in most states, he has the authority to make the arrest. The fact that he has the option of
[48:33.360 --> 48:42.240]  not making the arrest doesn't take away his authority to do the arrest. There was no third
[48:42.240 --> 48:50.960]  offense. So it was right for him to take her to jail was not there. Well, the fact that she gave
[48:50.960 --> 48:57.520]  the third offense would make it mandatory for him to take her to jail. But the first offense,
[48:57.520 --> 49:04.720]  the first offense, he has the authority to take her to jail, but he also has the option of not.
[49:06.240 --> 49:12.000]  If he exercises that option or doesn't exercise that option, it doesn't change his authority.
[49:15.280 --> 49:16.960]  He could always arrest her.
[49:16.960 --> 49:23.200]  Does that make sense?
[49:26.560 --> 49:30.720]  I hear what you're saying, but that's not what I'm seeing in the court records.
[49:33.520 --> 49:40.720]  Well, does our police officer authorized to arrest someone for committing an onsite offense?
[49:40.720 --> 49:45.760]  Well, arrest and full custodial arrest are two different things.
[49:46.960 --> 49:54.480]  You can, the officer can have a right to arrest you and he commits a full custodial arrest unlawfully
[49:54.480 --> 50:00.560]  that is false imprisonment. Even though, even if you're found guilty of the issue that he had,
[50:00.560 --> 50:07.040]  that he had reason to stop you. There's a difference between an arrest, which is a stop
[50:07.040 --> 50:15.680]  of your liberty and a custodial arrest. A custodial arrest is a full imprisonment of the individual.
[50:18.960 --> 50:25.760]  That seems different than most states. Generally, a custodial stop in most states
[50:26.560 --> 50:34.400]  means that it's more like a Terry stop where they're claiming you're not actually under arrest.
[50:34.400 --> 50:40.800]  They're just stopping you to do their investigation, to determine if they should arrest you or not.
[50:41.760 --> 50:45.520]  It sounds like it's the other way in Florida.
[50:46.560 --> 50:53.840]  Right. In Florida, the stop is an arrest from all the research that I've read, the stop is an arrest.
[50:54.720 --> 51:02.240]  Now, a full custodial arrest, that means that they are fully taking you into custody.
[51:02.240 --> 51:10.080]  They are taking your body into a place, a compound. That's full custodial arrest.
[51:11.280 --> 51:20.000]  That's different. Okay, so you're saying that in this case, the officer had a right to make the stop,
[51:21.680 --> 51:25.200]  but he didn't have the right to take her into custody.
[51:25.200 --> 51:37.360]  Right. Because the legislature made the adjudication being withheld was for a purpose.
[51:40.160 --> 51:45.840]  So the statute is void for vagueness because the officer reading the statute doesn't know
[51:45.840 --> 51:52.480]  these legal languages because I've made a court, I made a judge on record during trial
[51:52.480 --> 52:00.640]  explain the adjudication withheld. And he explained that it can't be used for enhancement
[52:00.640 --> 52:10.400]  and that the charge does not allow imprisonment. So if the charge does not allow imprisonment,
[52:10.400 --> 52:20.080]  how can you take me to jail for that charge? Well, they can do that in Texas. They can arrest
[52:20.080 --> 52:24.720]  you and take you to jail for a misdemeanor. Well, they can arrest you. Technically,
[52:24.720 --> 52:28.400]  they're required to take you directly to the nearest magistrate, not to jail.
[52:31.200 --> 52:38.320]  But for any crime, even a class C misdemeanor, that they're also given the option of allowing
[52:38.320 --> 52:45.040]  the accused to sign a promise to appear, then they can release the accused on their own recognizance.
[52:45.040 --> 52:51.120]  Right. But they always have the option of taking you to jail if they choose.
[52:52.480 --> 52:55.040]  Well- That's left up to the officer.
[52:57.520 --> 53:02.880]  That's left up. From the cases that I read in Florida, it was saying that the legislature
[53:03.680 --> 53:10.480]  made, there was a purpose for the adjudication withheld. It was to keep the
[53:10.480 --> 53:17.280]  local people from going to jail underneath that statute.
[53:18.320 --> 53:24.000]  Oh, okay. So you may have something special in Florida that's different than
[53:25.040 --> 53:29.440]  most of the states I've looked at. It's called the adjudication withheld.
[53:29.440 --> 53:34.480]  That means that they can find you guilty for the charge, but withhold adjudication.
[53:34.480 --> 53:41.680]  That means that charge does not exist. So for an officer to come and arrest you on your third
[53:41.680 --> 53:48.720]  offense, when on record, there is no third offense. Okay. That makes sense.
[53:50.480 --> 53:57.440]  Yeah. This is what's going on. During trial, I made the judge clarify that right in front of the
[53:57.440 --> 54:03.600]  officer. The officer was trying to keep from admitting that he arrested me for a felony,
[54:03.600 --> 54:07.920]  which he didn't have the right to do. That should have got a professional
[54:07.920 --> 54:14.880]  conduct complaint for lack of training. If the judge has to admonish an officer,
[54:16.160 --> 54:20.800]  then that goes to a lack of training. And that should always get a professional
[54:20.800 --> 54:28.720]  conduct complaint because that really stings them. But I was setting them up for the
[54:28.720 --> 54:35.200]  declaratory judgment. I wanted to make those statements so now that it's clear,
[54:35.200 --> 54:41.200]  not only do I have it on the Supreme Court and the appeals court, I have it in my own case.
[54:41.200 --> 54:47.440]  I have it the officer testifying. I have the judge actually clarifying the issue.
[54:48.160 --> 54:55.680]  So admitting that this statute is void for vagueness. And then the judge forced the cop
[54:55.680 --> 55:00.160]  to answer my question because the cop was dancing around because he didn't want to
[55:00.160 --> 55:05.840]  even know where I was going. The judge stopped intervening and he told the officer,
[55:05.840 --> 55:11.440]  this is what Mr. Ligier wants to know, and forced the officer to admit on record what he did.
[55:14.240 --> 55:19.680]  The officer kept on trying to, well, no, it's the car charge that we're here for.
[55:19.680 --> 55:22.480]  And I said, that's not what I asked you. I asked you, what did you arrest me for?
[55:22.480 --> 55:28.640]  A misdemeanor or felony? Because I know right now we're here on a misdemeanor. You arrested me for
[55:28.640 --> 55:37.200]  a felony. So I need you to admit, you're saying, what did you do to arrest me for? A misdemeanor
[55:37.200 --> 55:43.600]  or a felony? Well, you're a cop. You don't remember?
[55:43.600 --> 55:47.840]  Is this a hard question?
[55:47.840 --> 55:55.040]  Yeah. And then after that, that's when I made the judge clarify on record that,
[55:55.040 --> 55:59.920]  hey, yeah, that is not an enhancement. You can't use that for enhancement.
[56:00.800 --> 56:09.200]  So you're looking at my record, I don't have no adjudicated guilty to have me on my third offense.
[56:09.200 --> 56:16.000]  That means you committed false imprisonment because the statute does not authorize you
[56:16.000 --> 56:23.520]  to imprison me for that. I don't care if it's not written clearly for you to see,
[56:23.520 --> 56:27.840]  but when I go to the appeals court and the Supreme court, it's clearly written in their
[56:27.840 --> 56:34.880]  documents that that is not allowed. That is not how the statutory legislation,
[56:34.880 --> 56:41.440]  that's not how the legislation wrote the statute. That's not how they wrote it for it to be enacted.
[56:41.440 --> 56:51.040]  But we're not, so that's why I raised the declaratory judgment to clear all this up.
[56:51.040 --> 56:55.920]  So now this young lady has this issue where the cop is admitting, oh yeah,
[56:55.920 --> 57:00.880]  we just run plays. So now we've got a declaratory judgment to say, hey, is this lawful?
[57:02.240 --> 57:09.200]  You're just running plays, which is somebody's property without no probable cause.
[57:09.200 --> 57:12.720]  What he's doing is checking her papers.
[57:13.920 --> 57:18.240]  Right. You're checking without no probable cause, no warrant, no nothing.
[57:19.520 --> 57:27.600]  It just occurred to me that our founders did not foresee computers and computer access.
[57:27.600 --> 57:40.720]  They granted us the right to freedom from, what's the term Brett, freedom of our papers.
[57:40.720 --> 57:44.560]  We don't have to be secure in your person's papers and effects.
[57:44.560 --> 57:51.280]  And effects. So we have a right to security in our papers. So they can't say, you're the papers.
[57:51.280 --> 58:00.160]  The papers. So even if the papers are in electronic format, they're still
[58:02.480 --> 58:08.640]  searching your papers. So when they run that computer scan, they search your papers without
[58:10.320 --> 58:11.040]  probable cause.
[58:12.640 --> 58:17.120]  Yeah, that's precisely the issue I'm going to right now. It's going to hit every peace officer.
[58:17.120 --> 58:20.320]  Even if he admitted it on record.
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[01:00:15.280 --> 01:00:21.440]  constitutional rights. Privacy is under attack. When you give up data about yourself, you'll never
[01:00:21.440 --> 01:00:27.360]  get it back again. And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
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[01:01:05.440 --> 01:01:10.400]  of our founding fathers. Third party, Third Amendment, get it? So if you answer a knock
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[01:02:20.480 --> 01:02:25.120]  x-ray goggles. That imagery reminds me that the Fourth Amendment guarantees Americans
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[01:03:24.880 --> 01:03:39.920]  Okay, we are back. This is the Rule of Law Radio, Randy Kelton. I'm Brett Fountain.
[01:03:39.920 --> 01:03:47.440]  On this Friday, the 15th of July, 2022. And we are currently talking with Marge in Florida.
[01:03:47.440 --> 01:03:54.880]  All right, Marge, we are back. Let's see. Yeah, you're unmuted. All right, go right on ahead.
[01:03:56.080 --> 01:04:06.880]  Yeah, that last commercial said it all right there. It was speaking on the topic by the Fourth
[01:04:06.880 --> 01:04:10.320]  Amendment. They're searching on the topic without any probable cause.
[01:04:10.320 --> 01:04:20.480]  Exactly. They said that the automobile does not lose its constitutional protections just by getting
[01:04:20.480 --> 01:04:31.680]  on the road. Well put. So now I'm looking at it with all these issues. I'm helping her. That's
[01:04:31.680 --> 01:04:37.600]  going to be a declaratory judgment. And that's not even asking for civil damages or anything.
[01:04:37.600 --> 01:04:45.680]  That's just, we're just making them spend money and bring a legal argument where they have to
[01:04:45.680 --> 01:04:54.320]  say something. So we have that issue where they're just pulling people over for running their tags
[01:04:54.320 --> 01:05:00.720]  without probable cause. We have the issue where the statute is void for vagueness because it's
[01:05:00.720 --> 01:05:08.000]  allowed the officers to pull people over for detective equipment, which is unnecessary.
[01:05:10.240 --> 01:05:18.000]  The other one is the turning signal. It's allowing officers to pull people over without
[01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:27.360]  having the requirement that the offender puts someone in harm's way. So with all these issues,
[01:05:27.360 --> 01:05:32.800]  as many people as we can sue on every issue on different cases, that's a lot of money they're
[01:05:32.800 --> 01:05:42.960]  spending. Eventually, they're going to know whose document it's coming from because this is pretty
[01:05:42.960 --> 01:05:48.400]  much going to be written the same way, but this different statute, different issues,
[01:05:48.400 --> 01:05:58.160]  different legal arguments. And so there's no real way to tie them together. There's one case for the
[01:05:58.160 --> 01:06:07.440]  young lady, the other case is for Troy. My case, I have different cases, but I can clearly separate
[01:06:07.440 --> 01:06:14.160]  the languages so that everyone know that these are different issues. And it's better that way
[01:06:14.160 --> 01:06:21.840]  because I've seen that they use the legal system to convolute the language to
[01:06:22.560 --> 01:06:29.040]  discourage people from understanding it or trying to understand it themselves and going to pay
[01:06:29.680 --> 01:06:39.360]  someone to put them to sleep. So that's what we got going on. And that's why I wanted to let everybody
[01:06:39.360 --> 01:06:46.640]  else in on to look at how their statutes are written and how their higher courts are talking
[01:06:46.640 --> 01:07:00.720]  about these statutes and issues which we face every day. Yes, sir. So that's how I was bringing
[01:07:00.720 --> 01:07:06.800]  it up. So if anybody else, I'm going to go ahead and let somebody else get on the radio.
[01:07:06.800 --> 01:07:12.960]  Okay. Well, thanks for calling. Good talking with you, Marce. I really appreciate you doing that.
[01:07:13.920 --> 01:07:21.360]  All right. All right. And now it looks like we have a first time caller who just dropped off.
[01:07:23.840 --> 01:07:27.920]  Sorry about that. If you are the first time, if you are a first time caller and you
[01:07:29.120 --> 01:07:35.680]  are, you're listening on a stream here, call back in. We will take your call.
[01:07:35.680 --> 01:07:40.800]  All right. We'll go ahead to Danny now in Tennessee. Good evening, Danny.
[01:07:42.000 --> 01:07:44.560]  Hey, how y'all doing tonight? Hey.
[01:07:46.000 --> 01:07:48.800]  Where have you been? We haven't heard from you in a long time.
[01:07:50.640 --> 01:07:54.880]  Well, I've been working on some things, but yeah, you haven't heard, but I've been listening some.
[01:07:55.440 --> 01:08:02.240]  I call in just a little thing to add to some of what you said to the first caller, I think,
[01:08:02.240 --> 01:08:10.080]  where it's about the Texas constitution providing for an indictment for misdemeanor.
[01:08:11.040 --> 01:08:16.080]  Well, not only is it in the constitution, it's still in the Code of Criminal Procedure.
[01:08:17.280 --> 01:08:23.520]  And I can't remember exactly where all the steps are. They're a little bit separated, but in one
[01:08:23.520 --> 01:08:30.080]  place where it's talking about the- Wait, Brett, isn't that, wasn't that in chapter 27?
[01:08:30.080 --> 01:08:37.440]  Yeah, 27.01 is one good, solid place. Okay. What's it say there?
[01:08:38.640 --> 01:08:41.920]  That the initial pleas is an indictment or information.
[01:08:42.960 --> 01:08:48.720]  Oh yeah. But this has, you know, the steps along the way. And, you know, just about the last step
[01:08:48.720 --> 01:08:59.120]  before it goes back to the trial court is that when the district court judge receives the
[01:08:59.120 --> 01:09:04.800]  judge receives an indictment for which the district court does not have jurisdiction,
[01:09:05.680 --> 01:09:13.040]  he has discretion to send it to a justice court in the county seat or one of the outlying districts
[01:09:14.480 --> 01:09:20.880]  kind of depending on information in the file that, you know, that'd be more convenient for someone.
[01:09:20.880 --> 01:09:28.160]  Wait a minute. Laying there.
[01:09:30.880 --> 01:09:36.400]  And some research I did locally when I was living in Galveston County, went to the county courthouse
[01:09:37.280 --> 01:09:43.680]  and got with one of the court clerks here, one of the head court clerks. And
[01:09:43.680 --> 01:09:52.640]  she didn't really believe it, I could tell, but instead of kind of just rumble through the
[01:09:52.640 --> 01:10:02.480]  old files, she suggested I look through the minutes of the district court. And when I first
[01:10:03.360 --> 01:10:09.520]  come across this in the constitution, I wasn't sure if I'd already read that right, but I looked up the
[01:10:09.520 --> 01:10:18.480]  annotated constitution and I saw for this and I saw that it was showing these cases, these decisions
[01:10:18.480 --> 01:10:26.160]  that had been made regarding indictments for misdemeanors. But those higher level decisions
[01:10:26.160 --> 01:10:31.120]  seemed to, you know, the publication stops around the late thirties. So I went up there to the
[01:10:31.120 --> 01:10:38.320]  courthouse and, you know, explained some of this. Well, she suggested I look through the
[01:10:38.320 --> 01:10:44.320]  minutes of the district court from those times. And so I did that and I got in there and I started
[01:10:44.320 --> 01:10:51.920]  finding where they had, you know, court case numbers for misdemeanors for, you know, indictments
[01:10:51.920 --> 01:10:59.040]  for misdemeanors. So she got me one of the assistants and gave him a list of case numbers
[01:10:59.040 --> 01:11:05.680]  and dates. And he went down and, you know, pulled a bunch of them back up. And she was amazed to see
[01:11:05.680 --> 01:11:11.440]  that she'd never heard of such a thing. But I did discover looking through there that in the county
[01:11:11.440 --> 01:11:19.200]  there that these cases with the indictment for misdemeanor continued until sometime in the
[01:11:19.200 --> 01:11:25.280]  forties. And so it just kind of trailed off and disappeared. So I just kind of found that
[01:11:25.280 --> 01:11:30.400]  everybody's just distracted by what was going on overseas. And so I got away with it and never
[01:11:30.400 --> 01:11:37.440]  started again. I seem to remember you talking about this once before several years ago.
[01:11:38.640 --> 01:11:40.240]  Yeah, yeah, I have talked about it before.
[01:11:45.120 --> 01:11:51.440]  So in the forties, it'd be interesting to see how that faded out. That's,
[01:11:52.080 --> 01:11:56.240]  I'm going to make a note of that because these are, this is an issue I'm going to get to.
[01:11:56.240 --> 01:12:00.240]  And if I can find the history, it may be very informative.
[01:12:04.240 --> 01:12:08.240]  Okay. I just thought I'd bring that up since you mentioned it being in the constitution,
[01:12:08.240 --> 01:12:10.240]  but still in the Code of Criminal Procedure as well.
[01:12:14.240 --> 01:12:19.040]  Well, it's not in the code, the criminal procedure code says the initial document,
[01:12:19.040 --> 01:12:29.680]  initial pleading is a indictment or a information. The information part is problematic
[01:12:32.080 --> 01:12:34.960]  because that implies it doesn't need to be an indictment.
[01:12:36.800 --> 01:12:41.840]  Well, you've got grand jury that does the indictment. The district attorney can't do a
[01:12:41.840 --> 01:12:48.800]  a true bill or a no bill. The district attorney can, all he can do is draw up an information
[01:12:48.800 --> 01:12:52.000]  based on that and get a magistrate to do something with it.
[01:12:52.720 --> 01:12:57.280]  It sounds like they're using the information in place of indictments.
[01:12:59.200 --> 01:13:01.840]  Yeah, in custom years.
[01:13:01.840 --> 01:13:03.360]  They're both mentioned.
[01:13:04.960 --> 01:13:08.960]  And the constitution says that if there's, if it's a fine only, then you can,
[01:13:08.960 --> 01:13:15.280]  you don't have to have an indictment, which makes you, it leaves room for there to be something
[01:13:15.280 --> 01:13:22.960]  that's just an information. And then you still got that weird little loophole in 205 that even says
[01:13:23.680 --> 01:13:30.880]  for certain counties that don't have district attorneys, let's see, what does it say?
[01:13:30.880 --> 01:13:37.120]  District attorney and county attorney, then they can go on just to complain alone.
[01:13:37.120 --> 01:13:42.880]  Let's see, if they don't have, let me pull that up. Counties that have no county attorney,
[01:13:43.840 --> 01:13:48.480]  a misdemeanor case may be tried on complaint alone without an information.
[01:13:50.080 --> 01:13:54.480]  Okay, that's in the code by the legislature.
[01:13:55.280 --> 01:13:55.840]  Right.
[01:13:55.840 --> 01:13:59.280]  That's not what the constitution says.
[01:13:59.280 --> 01:14:07.840]  Right. It doesn't fit and it could be challenged for constitutionality.
[01:14:07.840 --> 01:14:09.040]  I think we need to do that.
[01:14:10.960 --> 01:14:12.800]  It's one of the things I want to get to.
[01:14:15.120 --> 01:14:22.640]  It should not be so incredibly easy to charge someone with a crime and prosecute him.
[01:14:22.640 --> 01:14:23.680]  It should be difficult.
[01:14:23.680 --> 01:14:29.440]  Well, part of the problem is that it's all stirred up, you know, this, we say that baritory is a
[01:14:29.440 --> 01:14:35.040]  problem, can't be fomenting litigation, but that's exactly what the peace officer that's hired,
[01:14:35.040 --> 01:14:42.960]  working for the DA, that's what I'm going after right now is that these peace officers are an
[01:14:42.960 --> 01:14:49.920]  employee of the district attorney. They sit there in that office and they sign complaints.
[01:14:49.920 --> 01:14:54.720]  Based on stuff that they just now finished digging up, that they had no business and no warrant to
[01:14:54.720 --> 01:14:59.680]  go searching for. They had no business even holding onto your private information. They're
[01:14:59.680 --> 01:15:05.040]  sitting there holding it and feeding it into these systems to do research and try to find
[01:15:05.040 --> 01:15:12.800]  something to accuse you of. And then they're the complainant. And that's all being, you know,
[01:15:12.800 --> 01:15:18.480]  fomented litigation is the term I think you'd like to say, Randy, but it's not the right term.
[01:15:18.480 --> 01:15:26.000]  I think you'd like to say, Randy, but it's problems that get stirred up without a complainant.
[01:15:27.200 --> 01:15:33.120]  They can't be the complainant, not for the problem that they're going to litigate in that office.
[01:15:34.560 --> 01:15:38.240]  Right. There has to be someone filing a criminal affidavit.
[01:15:40.240 --> 01:15:46.000]  And for it to be the DA or an agent in the office, that's not allowed.
[01:15:46.000 --> 01:15:52.160]  But where the constitution requires an indictment, how are they getting around it?
[01:15:54.080 --> 01:16:00.880]  And why is no one, if they're just, if they just stepped around it without getting some
[01:16:00.880 --> 01:16:06.400]  constitutional provision, is it just that nobody raised a red flag?
[01:16:07.280 --> 01:16:12.960]  Well, I raised the issue a few years ago and the pushback that I got was
[01:16:12.960 --> 01:16:19.760]  that the constitution says except in the matter of fine only. So then they took that to mean
[01:16:19.760 --> 01:16:27.040]  they can just do whatever they want. So they didn't have an indictment in a class B?
[01:16:27.680 --> 01:16:34.000]  They didn't have anything. They had a citation from an officer, not even a complaint, let alone
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[01:19:59.120 --> 01:20:04.480]  Okay. We are back. Randy Colton, Brett Fountain, Wheel of the Law Radio, and we're talking to Danny
[01:20:04.480 --> 01:20:12.640]  in Tennessee. Danny, did you have anything else for us? I just kind of wanted to bring that up.
[01:20:12.640 --> 01:20:22.800]  That was it, yeah. Okay. Thank you, Danny, and don't be such a stranger. Okay. The call board is
[01:20:22.800 --> 01:20:30.800]  empty, so we're going to go back to Dr. Joe. Dr. Joe, can you talk to us about how to improve your
[01:20:30.800 --> 01:20:40.880]  health? You know, funny you should ask. The interesting thing about having looked at many
[01:20:40.880 --> 01:20:47.360]  of the health practices around the world is that there's plenty of information, and it's all very
[01:20:47.360 --> 01:20:55.040]  humanistic. It's all very just solid, basic things that you can do. The Chinese said that in order to
[01:20:55.040 --> 01:21:01.680]  enjoy good health, you need to have proper rest, proper diet, proper exercise, proper
[01:21:04.080 --> 01:21:11.040]  natural health care practices like shiatsu or massage, and live in harmony with nature.
[01:21:12.000 --> 01:21:19.040]  And this is actually, it's the way we're supposed to live, and at the moment in America,
[01:21:19.040 --> 01:21:26.720]  we do not have a traditional or standard way of living that Homo sapiens has lived for
[01:21:26.720 --> 01:21:33.520]  centuries and centuries. My sister now has a wonderful little garden, and she takes tremendous
[01:21:33.520 --> 01:21:39.760]  delight in going out and working in her garden and having her fruits and vegetables right there.
[01:21:40.320 --> 01:21:46.400]  And the psychological benefit is at least the equal of the health benefit.
[01:21:46.400 --> 01:21:54.240]  But it's important to look at what was known as the China study. They kept a record of many
[01:21:54.240 --> 01:21:58.640]  people in China, and they looked at their health over a long period of time, and what they found was
[01:21:59.120 --> 01:22:06.800]  the best thing to do is have a plant-based whole food diet, and that is mostly fruits and vegetables,
[01:22:06.800 --> 01:22:14.720]  mostly vegetables. What has been found recently is in meat, some of the breakdown products of meat
[01:22:14.720 --> 01:22:24.080]  like trimethylamino oxide are extremely irritating and corrosive to the little tiny arterioles
[01:22:24.080 --> 01:22:31.200]  that we have throughout our body. And if we eat too much meat, these little tiny arterioles corrode
[01:22:31.200 --> 01:22:39.600]  and they lose their ability to transfer oxygen from the bloodstream into the tissues. Have you
[01:22:39.600 --> 01:22:45.360]  ever seen a person who looks like they're not very intelligent, and you can tell it's because
[01:22:45.360 --> 01:22:52.480]  they drank too much or had a really poor diet for a long period of time? This is something that you
[01:22:52.480 --> 01:23:00.000]  need to work on, and you need to say, I'm going to eat good fresh vegetables every day, and I'm going
[01:23:00.000 --> 01:23:04.880]  to have good fresh fruits every day, and I'm going to stay away from the sugar, and I'm going to stay
[01:23:04.880 --> 01:23:10.880]  away from the colas, I'm going to stay away from white flour and white sugar and all of the
[01:23:10.880 --> 01:23:16.560]  things that are mass-produced, and we all know they're not good for us. So we have to take a
[01:23:16.560 --> 01:23:22.960]  little extra work, a little extra time to start eating things that are really good, reducing stress,
[01:23:23.680 --> 01:23:30.320]  having harmonious interpersonal relationships, doing what we really enjoy the most, and taking
[01:23:30.320 --> 01:23:40.320]  care of your health, and by doing that you will tend to minimize the really devastating diseases.
[01:23:40.320 --> 01:23:49.440]  What are the three big disease groups, Randy? You've got cancer, you've got cardiovascular disease,
[01:23:49.440 --> 01:23:57.920]  and you've got diabetes. All right, well cancer is influenced very strongly by what? Diet. You've got
[01:23:57.920 --> 01:24:04.800]  heart disease, cardiovascular disease, influenced very much by diet. As a matter of fact, when they
[01:24:04.800 --> 01:24:11.600]  want to study cardiovascular disease, the animal that they use as an animal model is
[01:24:11.600 --> 01:24:17.360]  characteristically rabbits, and in order to give the rabbits cardiovascular disease,
[01:24:17.360 --> 01:24:25.040]  they feed them a diet high in sugar and milk solids, milk proteins, and it gives them
[01:24:25.040 --> 01:24:31.440]  cardiovascular disease. How is it we're not smart enough to look at the animals that we use as
[01:24:31.440 --> 01:24:38.960]  models for cardiovascular disease and transfer that information to humans? And the third category,
[01:24:40.000 --> 01:24:46.000]  other than cancer, cardiovascular disease, and the third category is diabetes. We all know what
[01:24:46.000 --> 01:24:53.360]  causes most diabetes. There's type 1 diabetes, which is a real problem with pathology of the
[01:24:53.360 --> 01:24:59.280]  pancreas, but most people have type 2 diabetes, and by reducing the amount of short-chain
[01:24:59.280 --> 01:25:08.480]  carbohydrates and sugars, type 2 diabetes greatly improves, usually in a relatively short period of
[01:25:08.480 --> 01:25:14.800]  time. So you have a war on two fronts. You need to really take good care of your health,
[01:25:14.800 --> 01:25:21.680]  and then you need to go to a physician who's orientated toward natural remedies and understand
[01:25:21.680 --> 01:25:27.840]  all the biochemistry and all the pharmaceuticals and all the modern medicine, but tends toward and
[01:25:27.840 --> 01:25:34.000]  leads toward what's the most natural way to approach a disease process or a disease state.
[01:25:34.800 --> 01:25:36.000]  Does that make sense to you?
[01:25:43.440 --> 01:25:44.480]  Randy, can you hear me?
[01:25:44.480 --> 01:25:51.040]  So something broke out there on my back. Yeah, I can hear you now.
[01:25:51.040 --> 01:25:54.640]  Okay, okay. I seem to have blanked out there for a moment.
[01:25:56.400 --> 01:25:57.760]  Yeah, that's making sense to me.
[01:25:59.360 --> 01:26:04.800]  Yeah, you know, good health is really not all that difficult, but you need to do the right things in
[01:26:04.800 --> 01:26:11.040]  the right way, and you'll get results. Very rarely do people do the right thing.
[01:26:11.040 --> 01:26:18.000]  And you'll get results. Very rarely do people work hard to improve their health, and that's the
[01:26:18.000 --> 01:26:24.560]  excellent results. But you've got to have good natural approach to life and living and diet,
[01:26:24.560 --> 01:26:30.720]  and you have to have good medical care and good professional health care. And from time to time,
[01:26:30.720 --> 01:26:37.600]  you need to go in for a shiatsu or acupuncture or something of that type, some body work,
[01:26:37.600 --> 01:26:44.560]  to work the kinks out and help you relax. And the Chinese have used that method for thousands of
[01:26:44.560 --> 01:26:51.600]  years. It's the primary system of health care on earth, considering there's more Orientals than
[01:26:51.600 --> 01:27:00.320]  the Asians than there are Caucasians and other races. The natural way is the best.
[01:27:00.320 --> 01:27:06.560]  So, it's a little difficult when we're in such a large metropolitan society.
[01:27:07.680 --> 01:27:14.080]  Oh, it's terribly difficult. And you know, we have no historical or traditional
[01:27:16.640 --> 01:27:21.920]  background to fall back on. You know, your parents had a garden, your grandparents undoubtedly,
[01:27:21.920 --> 01:27:28.240]  they probably even had chickens and goats, and that was a much more natural way to live.
[01:27:28.240 --> 01:27:34.560]  And that was a much more natural lifestyle. Today, you have to go out of your way to avoid eating
[01:27:34.560 --> 01:27:40.720]  the things that you know will make you sick. But I want you to remember this. At this point,
[01:27:42.000 --> 01:27:48.800]  disease is a choice, and health is a choice. And you're going to have to make a choice to not
[01:27:48.800 --> 01:27:53.600]  fill yourself full of burgers and cola. You're going to have to make a choice to eat a baked
[01:27:53.600 --> 01:27:59.680]  potato instead of fries. You're going to have to make a choice, but you can do it.
[01:28:03.120 --> 01:28:08.480]  We need some really well-structured therapeutic metaphors
[01:28:10.720 --> 01:28:15.760]  so that we can hypnotize everybody and get them to do what's good for them,
[01:28:15.760 --> 01:28:21.280]  whether they like it or not. Well, yeah, forcing people to do what's good for them,
[01:28:21.280 --> 01:28:28.480]  I think is an excellent idea. We need to get some arm twisters.
[01:28:30.880 --> 01:28:38.320]  Since I've known Dr. Joe, I'm struggling to follow his advice. I get all kinds of advice from
[01:28:38.320 --> 01:28:48.720]  everybody, and it's all horribly contradictory. But Dr. Joe's is consistent. And, you know,
[01:28:48.720 --> 01:28:55.520]  Brett, you know I'm not particularly religious, but what Dr. Joe is talking about is exactly what
[01:28:55.520 --> 01:29:06.080]  I found in the Bible about how to eat. Where is the passage, let the seeds be your meat?
[01:29:06.080 --> 01:29:08.800]  It pulses in your range.
[01:29:08.800 --> 01:29:16.240]  Yeah, and what I found in the Bible was eat what's grown in your general area.
[01:29:16.240 --> 01:29:22.160]  Eat what is fresh and in season. It didn't say anything about it being adulterated,
[01:29:22.160 --> 01:29:26.720]  but they weren't doing that in those days, except for crapping in the wrong places,
[01:29:26.720 --> 01:29:34.560]  that kind of adulterates food for some. But eat what grows naturally in your area.
[01:29:34.560 --> 01:29:41.840]  Eat it fresh and don't screw with it. Is that pretty close, Dr. Joe?
[01:29:41.840 --> 01:29:50.400]  It really is. And, you know, the overall approach is to reduce stress to an irreducible minimum,
[01:29:50.400 --> 01:29:52.880]  including dietary stress.
[01:29:52.880 --> 01:29:57.760]  Okay, you're stressing me because you're running out of time. We are back.
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[01:33:28.320 --> 01:33:54.720]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Brat Fountain, Rule of Law Radio.
[01:33:54.720 --> 01:33:59.680]  And we're talking over the break, and you guys always miss the good part.
[01:33:59.680 --> 01:34:07.040]  The good part happens on the break. Dr. Joe, can you tell us about the metabolic syndrome?
[01:34:08.320 --> 01:34:15.920]  Metabolic syndrome, this is a relatively recent concept in medicine.
[01:34:16.720 --> 01:34:22.480]  When you see people in America, our biggest health problem is what?
[01:34:22.480 --> 01:34:29.920]  Obesity. We all have way too much to eat. And the journey of a thousand miles begins
[01:34:29.920 --> 01:34:36.000]  with the first step. As soon as you begin eating mostly a plant-based whole food diet,
[01:34:36.000 --> 01:34:41.680]  your health will begin to improve. Cardiovascular disease begins to improve.
[01:34:41.680 --> 01:34:49.040]  Diabetes, all of these very, very severe illnesses begin to improve radically.
[01:34:49.040 --> 01:34:54.720]  Well, if you go to the Kroger or Walmart, every once in a while, you'll see some poor soul
[01:34:54.720 --> 01:35:01.360]  who has metabolic syndrome. They're morbidly obese. It's obvious that they're very ill.
[01:35:01.360 --> 01:35:09.360]  And this is becoming more and more prevalent in America. Almost 50% of the grade school children
[01:35:09.360 --> 01:35:17.200]  have some degree of obesity, and that's extremely serious. Our armed services are looking for people
[01:35:17.200 --> 01:35:25.760]  who do not have physical impairments that are so severe that they prevent their enrollment
[01:35:25.760 --> 01:35:31.600]  in our armed forces. We can't find enough healthy people to fill the Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marine.
[01:35:32.240 --> 01:35:39.840]  And that's a very, very dangerous tendency, and it's gotten worse. So the way to deal with metabolic
[01:35:39.840 --> 01:35:47.840]  syndrome is whole food, plant-based. And remember, when you eat something that is a short-chain
[01:35:47.840 --> 01:35:54.080]  carbohydrate like sugar in a cola or whatever, it hits your bloodstream almost immediately,
[01:35:54.640 --> 01:36:01.920]  and it increases the blood sugar levels. That tells your pancreas to begin secreting insulin
[01:36:01.920 --> 01:36:08.000]  to bring that blood sugar down. You can't walk around with high blood sugar. You'll get infections.
[01:36:08.000 --> 01:36:12.880]  And so your pancreas begins to secrete insulin. Well, because there's a lot of sugar in your
[01:36:12.880 --> 01:36:19.520]  bloodstream, your pancreas will over-secrete insulin. And the function of insulin is to store
[01:36:19.520 --> 01:36:26.960]  sugar in your fat cells in the form of triglycerides. So you drink a Coke, your blood sugar goes up,
[01:36:26.960 --> 01:36:33.760]  your pancreas creates insulin. It brings the blood sugar down to more normal, but there will be a
[01:36:33.760 --> 01:36:42.560]  rebound effect. The blood sugar will go below where you're comfortable. And so you end up fat
[01:36:43.600 --> 01:36:50.240]  because all of that sugar is being stored in the fat cells, tired because your blood sugar is
[01:36:51.040 --> 01:36:58.320]  below what it should be, and just a horrible feeling of malaise. And we get on this sugar
[01:36:58.320 --> 01:37:04.080]  rollercoaster up and down and up and down and up and down, and it predisposes us to metabolic
[01:37:04.080 --> 01:37:12.000]  syndrome, thyroid problems, adrenal insufficiency, and off you go. These people will have a lifetime
[01:37:12.000 --> 01:37:19.760]  of bad health. And in the end, when they get up in a few years, they spend most of their time
[01:37:19.760 --> 01:37:27.040]  just going to the doctor. And that's no way to live. Modest exercise, good food,
[01:37:27.040 --> 01:37:34.960]  good rest, and some body work, acupuncture from time to time will go a long way toward helping
[01:37:34.960 --> 01:37:44.560]  people. Take the first step and begin getting closer to a more whole food diet, mostly vegetables,
[01:37:45.360 --> 01:37:50.800]  and you'll find your health begins to improve. And deliberately push yourself away from the table.
[01:37:50.800 --> 01:37:57.440]  You cannot afford to be overweight. It is disastrous for your health as you get into your
[01:37:57.440 --> 01:38:04.480]  later years. Does all that make sense, Brandy? I kind of feel like you're talking to me directly.
[01:38:05.680 --> 01:38:07.280]  I would never do such a thing, Your Honor.
[01:38:10.640 --> 01:38:17.200]  Yes, and this has been a struggle, especially in this culture. And I'm looking for a key.
[01:38:17.200 --> 01:38:25.760]  A key that will kind of pervade my consciousness. So when I have an urge for something that's
[01:38:26.800 --> 01:38:36.800]  sweet and sugary, and I need something to smack me upside the head and tell me to snap out of it.
[01:38:37.840 --> 01:38:43.360]  Well, when you have the sugar craving, what your body's trying to tell you is that you
[01:38:43.360 --> 01:38:52.800]  need a little protein or fat, or some natural vegetable. Sugar cravings are really, they're
[01:38:53.760 --> 01:39:00.400]  very unnatural. They indicate that you've been on a high sugar diet for way too long.
[01:39:01.600 --> 01:39:08.400]  And I have noticed that. After talking to Dr. Joe in the last few months, I had almost completely
[01:39:08.400 --> 01:39:16.000]  gotten off sugar. And once I did that, I found that I don't really like sugar.
[01:39:19.120 --> 01:39:26.880]  When I was taking sugar all the time, I craved it. But once I got all the time. Go ahead.
[01:39:27.760 --> 01:39:31.760]  We're going to look back at this time where you'd walk into somebody's house,
[01:39:31.760 --> 01:39:36.000]  and what do they have on the kitchen table? A bunch of sugar.
[01:39:36.000 --> 01:39:42.640]  A bowl of sugar. I mean, we have bowls of it. It's all around us.
[01:39:43.520 --> 01:39:50.160]  It's like we're swimming in a sea of sugar. And as soon as you get off the sugar and reduce the
[01:39:50.160 --> 01:39:59.200]  salt, weight comes down, blood pressure comes down, depression tends to go away, general mood
[01:39:59.200 --> 01:40:06.880]  improves, the irritability goes down. It's just, your life begins when you get your diet under
[01:40:06.880 --> 01:40:15.680]  control. Your life begins when you get your diet under control. Your life begins when you get your
[01:40:15.680 --> 01:40:26.720]  diet under control. So what happens when I get my diet under control? Well, then you get something
[01:40:26.720 --> 01:40:32.240]  that the founding fathers said you ought to have from the get-go. You get freedom, self-expression.
[01:40:34.240 --> 01:40:40.240]  I was in upstate New York with Pastor Massad, and he went into a Walmart, and I just sat in the front
[01:40:40.240 --> 01:40:51.200]  and waited for him. And I was astounded. 90% of the people who walked through the door were morbidly
[01:40:51.200 --> 01:41:00.160]  obese. Not just overweight, but horribly overweight. Yeah, they're misshapen. They're
[01:41:00.160 --> 01:41:06.640]  crippled by obesity. Yeah, and they look like they can hardly walk because they're balancing
[01:41:06.640 --> 01:41:14.640]  all this weight on two tiny little feet, just one after the other after the other. That was scary.
[01:41:14.640 --> 01:41:20.880]  That was scary. They have problems of health that you wouldn't believe. My sister
[01:41:21.760 --> 01:41:30.080]  goes and gets her hair done at a beauty salon where they have a bath where you can soak your feet.
[01:41:31.120 --> 01:41:38.640]  And she tried it, and she said it was so hot it scalded her, and she screamed. And the attendant
[01:41:38.640 --> 01:41:46.640]  said, what's wrong? And my sister said, it's too hot. Well, why is it that hot? It's that hot
[01:41:46.640 --> 01:41:52.560]  because most of the people who go to their beauty salon have diabetic neuropathy of the feet, and
[01:41:52.560 --> 01:41:59.760]  they can't feel it. That's how severe and pervasive and widespread this problem is.
[01:42:00.640 --> 01:42:07.920]  I was at a Walmart the other day, and a girl who could not have been more than 17, morbidly obese,
[01:42:07.920 --> 01:42:14.960]  walked through the door and plopped into one of the electric carts to go up and down the aisles
[01:42:14.960 --> 01:42:22.640]  shopping. Someone that age should have plenty of exercise, and they should have plenty of energy.
[01:42:22.640 --> 01:42:28.720]  They should not be sitting in an electric cart getting sugary snacks by going up and down the aisles.
[01:42:28.720 --> 01:42:36.640]  This is a health crisis. And if you look around in the cost, in another 5, 10, 15 years, the cost
[01:42:37.600 --> 01:42:43.120]  for health care will be unimaginable. We are so sick as a society.
[01:42:43.760 --> 01:42:52.160]  There is a lot of talk about depopulation, about certain factions trying to depopulate the country.
[01:42:52.160 --> 01:43:00.160]  I don't think those factions have much work to do, because we seem to be doing that ourselves.
[01:43:01.280 --> 01:43:08.880]  It is ghastly. If you work as a medical professional, almost everyone is morbidly obese,
[01:43:09.600 --> 01:43:15.280]  and there's really no reason for it. There's no excuse for it. I asked a friend of mine,
[01:43:15.280 --> 01:43:22.240]  a psychologist, what does it take? He had a weight loss practice. I said, what does it take for these
[01:43:22.240 --> 01:43:27.760]  enormously obese people? He said, they will eat plenty throughout the day, and then at night,
[01:43:27.760 --> 01:43:35.680]  they'll sit and watch TV, and they'll eat half a chocolate cake and half a gallon of ice cream.
[01:43:35.680 --> 01:43:42.160]  And they do that every day, every night, day in, day out. That's how people end up that way.
[01:43:42.160 --> 01:43:48.160]  That's how people end up that way. My goodness. Okay, going to our sponsors,
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[01:47:21.520 --> 01:47:26.960]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio. We have one segment left,
[01:47:26.960 --> 01:47:33.120]  and we have a first-time caller. If you are in the 605 area code, talk to us.
[01:47:34.880 --> 01:47:44.240]  Hi, my name is Robert. This is for Dr. Joe. I have a question about what else this could be
[01:47:44.240 --> 01:47:50.560]  besides an infection of the spinal vertebrae and the disc.
[01:47:50.560 --> 01:47:53.760]  What else can it be? Tell me some symptoms, Robert.
[01:47:53.760 --> 01:48:00.400]  You started in the middle of something. What else can this be besides? What was the
[01:48:00.400 --> 01:48:06.560]  besides you were referring to? What else can it be besides an infection?
[01:48:07.920 --> 01:48:11.680]  No, no. You didn't tell us what you have, and you were asking him to say what else it could be.
[01:48:11.680 --> 01:48:14.480]  And Dr. Joe's asking what are the symptoms.
[01:48:14.480 --> 01:48:24.160]  What are the symptoms? Okay. The working diagnosis is osteomyelitis. The symptoms are pain,
[01:48:24.160 --> 01:48:33.120]  muscle spasms, and the pain is both in the muscles and also along the nerves.
[01:48:33.120 --> 01:48:51.440]  It says mild, moderate, or severe pain. Severe. How long has this been going on?
[01:48:52.400 --> 01:48:59.120]  Three months. What did the x-rays show? The x-rays show that there are no fractures.
[01:48:59.120 --> 01:49:06.320]  The MRI, the only thing I could get from the radiologist reading was that it was
[01:49:06.320 --> 01:49:12.000]  consistent with infection. It sounds like an infection to me.
[01:49:13.680 --> 01:49:20.080]  Okay. Because what's stumping some of the folks is that there's no history of fever,
[01:49:20.080 --> 01:49:30.480]  no history of chills, no particular cause. And I'm thinking, well, what could have caused this?
[01:49:30.480 --> 01:49:33.840]  Where would I get an infection in the middle of my body? I'm otherwise healthy.
[01:49:36.320 --> 01:49:42.000]  If you were given a choice of eating salty popcorn or a bowl of ice cream, which would you take?
[01:49:43.920 --> 01:49:47.680]  I would take the ice cream because the popcorn got stuck in my teeth.
[01:49:47.680 --> 01:49:54.240]  Do you like salt or do you like sweet? I prefer sweet.
[01:49:55.840 --> 01:50:03.760]  Okay. And do you suffer from colds? Do you have any tonsillitis? Do you still have your tonsils?
[01:50:03.760 --> 01:50:11.760]  Were they removed? I still have my tonsils. I'm in excellent health. I'm 5'6". I weigh 140 pounds.
[01:50:11.760 --> 01:50:17.920]  Okay. Well, osteomyelitis is a very severe disease. Did you have any IV
[01:50:20.240 --> 01:50:24.480]  medication or drugs or anything like that? No.
[01:50:26.560 --> 01:50:33.920]  It just popped up one day. How are your energy levels overall?
[01:50:35.760 --> 01:50:39.520]  Well, right now my energy levels aren't great because I can barely move.
[01:50:39.520 --> 01:50:48.480]  Right. Are you on any kind of antibiotics? Right now I am because that's the only thing
[01:50:49.760 --> 01:50:54.160]  that they can think of to do with me. Does it seem to diminish the pain?
[01:50:55.760 --> 01:51:04.640]  Not yet. We're on day five. You should have seen some improvement by now. I can't tell you
[01:51:04.640 --> 01:51:10.240]  without taking a look at you, but whatever your doctor says, it sounds to me like you've got a
[01:51:10.240 --> 01:51:16.320]  potentially dangerous situation and I would be very careful about following the instructions
[01:51:16.320 --> 01:51:22.960]  and it might be a good idea to get a second opinion. Well, that's why I'm calling you.
[01:51:22.960 --> 01:51:28.560]  I was thinking, well, is there some other thing that could be indicated, some other
[01:51:28.560 --> 01:51:35.520]  direction of care that I could go on besides filling myself up with basically chemical weapons
[01:51:35.520 --> 01:51:41.200]  for the next two months because that's their treatment plan. That is their treatment plan.
[01:51:41.200 --> 01:51:51.280]  If you have osteomyelitis, many times it's a compromise between risk and reward. If you have
[01:51:51.280 --> 01:52:00.880]  osteomyelitis and it damages your central nervous system, your central nervous system,
[01:52:00.880 --> 01:52:08.000]  that's to be avoided at all costs. So I would find out what my doctor really recommended
[01:52:08.000 --> 01:52:12.160]  and I might go and see if there was a specialist who would take a look at me.
[01:52:14.480 --> 01:52:20.720]  Yeah. Well, right now I've got specialists from two different fields and they're both on the same
[01:52:20.720 --> 01:52:31.120]  page. Okay. Do you have one from internal medicine? I have an infectious disease expert
[01:52:31.120 --> 01:52:36.880]  and a neurosurgeon. Okay. If those two boys are telling you you've got osteomyelitis,
[01:52:36.880 --> 01:52:46.480]  they're probably right. Okay. I'm trying to figure out if the diagnosis is correct,
[01:52:46.480 --> 01:52:53.760]  what other avenues of treatment could I pursue because eventually I'm going to get out of the
[01:52:53.760 --> 01:53:02.000]  hospital and I might be able to pursue acupuncture for example or something else. Acupuncture is not
[01:53:02.000 --> 01:53:08.080]  the preferred treatment for an infection. Were you in the tropics or something? Did you get exposed
[01:53:08.080 --> 01:53:16.320]  to mosquitoes or some strange circumstance? Over the last 30 years, yes. I've been all over
[01:53:16.320 --> 01:53:23.840]  the world. All right. I think you may find the answer to your question in your travels.
[01:53:25.040 --> 01:53:31.360]  It sounds like black water fever. Sometimes these things can harbor for a long time
[01:53:31.360 --> 01:53:37.360]  before they pop up. Okay. But I would recommend that you pay very strict attention to what
[01:53:37.360 --> 01:53:43.040]  those two MDs are telling you. With advanced degrees like that, usually they know what they're
[01:53:43.040 --> 01:53:53.680]  doing when it's a dangerous situation. Their advice is to be heeded. Yes. I agree. I'm looking
[01:53:53.680 --> 01:54:04.880]  for perspectives that are outside the box that maybe one little thing could nudge my odds in my favor.
[01:54:07.920 --> 01:54:12.240]  Well, you know, listening to your tone of voice, you sound like you've been a healthy person and
[01:54:12.240 --> 01:54:19.600]  robust all your life. Am I mistaken? For the most part, I've been healthy my entire life, yes.
[01:54:20.400 --> 01:54:26.640]  Yeah, that's what it sounds like. So this is a departure from the norm for you and it'll be
[01:54:26.640 --> 01:54:32.800]  uncomfortable because you're not used to being debilitated. Be careful with this. Don't let your
[01:54:32.800 --> 01:54:42.880]  guard down. Take good care of it. Well, thank you for coming in tonight. Take care. Good luck.
[01:54:46.560 --> 01:54:54.240]  Is there anything nutrition-wise or behavioral-wise that he could do to improve his prognosis?
[01:54:55.840 --> 01:55:01.840]  You know, whenever people have infections, I say to them, usually I'll say, are you getting
[01:55:01.840 --> 01:55:10.160]  enough zinc? And many times, you know, everybody's diet is... In America, a really good diet is
[01:55:10.160 --> 01:55:17.120]  unusual. And much of the time, not always, but much of the time, just simple supplementation
[01:55:17.120 --> 01:55:23.200]  with minerals will make an improvement. But when there's an acute infection deep inside the spine
[01:55:23.200 --> 01:55:29.520]  or in the nervous system or in the musculature near the spine, you must take good care of it.
[01:55:29.520 --> 01:55:38.400]  Usually, that involves antibiotics and you need good monitoring of what's going on for you.
[01:55:41.680 --> 01:55:45.440]  But, you know, I mean, we're not supposed to walk around with infection. So
[01:55:46.480 --> 01:55:53.360]  if a person has chronic infection, they need to look at all of their diet and all of the minerals
[01:55:53.360 --> 01:56:00.560]  and make sure that there's plenty of everything that are necessary to support health. No one thing
[01:56:00.560 --> 01:56:10.480]  is, you know, it's not an isolated thing. It's got to be balanced. But having said that,
[01:56:10.480 --> 01:56:20.560]  many times zinc will make the difference. Would zinc orotate be indicated?
[01:56:20.560 --> 01:56:29.440]  That is my preferred form of zinc. I just, I really think the world of the orotates overall.
[01:56:30.320 --> 01:56:37.680]  So whenever a person says, should I take this? I tend to be cautious and say,
[01:56:37.680 --> 01:56:50.320]  if you're a standard American diet, you probably would benefit from mineral supplementation.
[01:56:53.120 --> 01:57:04.080]  But almost everybody has got some degree of problem with the diet or they just don't get sick
[01:57:04.080 --> 01:57:09.840]  by and large. Does that make sense, Mr. Kelton?
[01:57:09.840 --> 01:57:19.120]  Yeah, it does. What about these minerals? And I use zeolite, where I super saturate water with
[01:57:19.120 --> 01:57:24.720]  organic minerals and take that on a regular basis. Would something like that tend to be helpful?
[01:57:24.720 --> 01:57:35.360]  Absolutely. People will say, well, what should I do? And I say, do everything. Remember back in the
[01:57:35.360 --> 01:57:39.440]  day when they had Shackley vitamins? Yes.
[01:57:39.440 --> 01:57:44.080]  People would ask me, should I take one a day? And I'd tell them, no, take three or four or five.
[01:57:44.640 --> 01:57:48.560]  Until your body gets built up and you have plenty of nutrition in your system,
[01:57:48.560 --> 01:57:57.120]  take a bunch. And then take her off and find where you feel best. And it'll usually what the
[01:57:57.120 --> 01:58:05.680]  manufacturer recommends. But most people are very deficient. This fellow, his voice was very strong.
[01:58:05.680 --> 01:58:09.840]  I'm kind of surprised that he has this problem. I'd like to know a little bit more about the
[01:58:09.840 --> 01:58:16.880]  history, but it's a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very,
[01:58:16.880 --> 01:58:22.800]  very history. But it's unusual for a person whose voice is strong, his demeanor is like
[01:58:23.600 --> 01:58:32.160]  proactive as he was. They have the kind of disease syndrome that he says he's been diagnosed with.
[01:58:33.520 --> 01:58:41.440]  Okay. Yes, it does. And we are out of time. This is Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain with our special
[01:58:41.440 --> 01:58:47.760]  guest, Dr. Joe DiRusso. We'll be back next week. Thank you all for listening and good night.
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