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[00:00.000 --> 00:06.000]  The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution.
[00:06.000 --> 00:09.680]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[00:09.680 --> 00:11.120]  Our liberty depends on it.
[00:11.120 --> 00:15.080]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember
[00:15.080 --> 00:17.180]  your First Amendment rights.
[00:17.180 --> 00:18.760]  Privacy is under attack.
[00:18.760 --> 00:22.360]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[00:22.360 --> 00:27.160]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish, too.
[00:27.160 --> 00:32.240]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
[00:32.240 --> 00:33.240]  Privacy.
[00:33.240 --> 00:34.880]  It's worth hanging on to.
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[00:48.000 --> 00:50.960]  It's also how I remember the five guarantees of the First Amendment.
[00:50.960 --> 00:54.720]  If you plan to take away my rights, I'm going to spar with you.
[00:54.720 --> 01:01.760]  Spar with an extra P. S for speech, P for press, another P for petition, A for assembly,
[01:01.760 --> 01:03.280]  and R for religion.
[01:03.280 --> 01:07.240]  Most Americans are familiar with the First Amendment guarantees of free speech, press,
[01:07.240 --> 01:08.720]  assembly, and religion.
[01:08.720 --> 01:11.080]  But petition for redress is another matter.
[01:11.080 --> 01:14.800]  We have the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
[01:14.800 --> 01:18.320]  It means that if we're unhappy with what's going on in our government, we can spell out
[01:18.320 --> 01:21.040]  the reasons without fear of being thrown into jail.
[01:21.040 --> 01:31.280]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, more news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[01:31.280 --> 01:34.920]  The Bill of Rights contains the first 10 amendments of our Constitution.
[01:34.920 --> 01:38.400]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[01:38.400 --> 01:39.840]  Our liberty depends on it.
[01:39.840 --> 01:43.760]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember
[01:43.760 --> 01:46.880]  one of your constitutional rights.
[01:46.880 --> 01:48.480]  Privacy is under attack.
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[02:16.040 --> 02:20.380]  When I think of the Second Amendment, I visualize myself wrapping my two arms around the Bill
[02:20.380 --> 02:22.440]  of Rights in a big old bear hug.
[02:22.440 --> 02:26.960]  It's how I remember that the Second Amendment guarantees us the right to bear arms, arms
[02:26.960 --> 02:30.800]  that embrace our freedoms and won't let anyone take them away without a fight.
[02:30.800 --> 02:31.800]  Get it?
[02:31.800 --> 02:34.120]  Two arms, bear hug, bear arms?
[02:34.120 --> 02:37.720]  The late Senator Hubert Humphrey captured the spirit of the Second Amendment so well
[02:37.720 --> 02:43.480]  when he said, the right of the citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary
[02:43.480 --> 02:48.040]  conduct, one more safeguard against the tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which
[02:48.040 --> 02:50.680]  historically has proved to always be possible.
[02:50.680 --> 02:52.640]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht.
[02:52.640 --> 03:16.400]  More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[03:23.640 --> 03:50.800]  the right of the citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary conduct,
[03:50.800 --> 04:08.640]  one more safeguard against the tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which
[04:08.640 --> 04:22.160]  historically has proved to always be possible.
[04:22.160 --> 04:51.800]  OK, howdy, howdy, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rue La La Radio on this, the 10th of July,
[04:51.800 --> 04:57.320]  the 10th day of February, 2022.
[04:57.320 --> 04:58.600]  Did I get that right, Brett?
[04:58.600 --> 05:02.400]  Hey, you guys, I didn't even have to tell him that.
[05:02.400 --> 05:05.640]  Oh yeah, I'm really getting there.
[05:05.640 --> 05:12.520]  OK, we're going to start out with something I come across.
[05:12.520 --> 05:18.600]  I was trying to recover a stolen airplane and we filed criminal complaints with the
[05:18.600 --> 05:26.080]  sheriff and they won't do anything in Victoria County and Corpus Christi and nobody wants
[05:26.080 --> 05:27.080]  to do anything.
[05:27.080 --> 05:38.840]  So I found Texas Code of Criminal Procedure 4701 and 4701A.
[05:38.840 --> 05:48.320]  It is a procedure if someone has something that's been stolen from you and there is no
[05:48.320 --> 05:57.840]  litigation ongoing, you can ask the court for an order to send the sheriff out to seize
[05:57.840 --> 06:06.000]  the item and then convene a prove-up hearing so that the owner can prove up their ownership
[06:06.000 --> 06:12.800]  and get the item back.
[06:12.800 --> 06:18.640]  We've run into this a lot of times across the year and I talked to two or three lawyers
[06:18.640 --> 06:25.560]  in Corpus Christi because I wanted a lawyer to give this to the J.P. instead of a pro
[06:25.560 --> 06:26.560]  se.
[06:26.560 --> 06:30.960]  But I didn't find a lawyer who had a clue as to what it was and where I came across
[06:30.960 --> 06:44.920]  it was I asked my chief of police how do they get to seize stolen property and he said you
[06:44.920 --> 06:51.760]  know if they catch somebody with stolen property then they file a motion with the judge authorizing
[06:51.760 --> 06:57.680]  them to seize it and then they can convene a hearing and get it back to the person who
[06:57.680 --> 07:00.960]  launched it.
[07:00.960 --> 07:01.960]  Does that sound cool Brett?
[07:01.960 --> 07:05.360]  Yeah it does, it sounds perfect.
[07:05.360 --> 07:06.360]  Very appropriate.
[07:06.360 --> 07:22.760]  Well what did I do, I muted and un-muted, my apologies, having a little issue.
[07:22.760 --> 07:24.240]  Okay sorry about that.
[07:24.240 --> 07:28.400]  Yeah no worries, as long as we get to keep you here a little longer.
[07:28.400 --> 07:30.760]  Did I blow out your ear drums?
[07:30.760 --> 07:48.760]  We're doing fine, so you were saying that this chapter 47 is the way that they get the
[07:48.760 --> 07:54.640]  authority to seize something that is allegedly stolen.
[07:54.640 --> 07:55.640]  Yes.
[07:55.640 --> 08:01.800]  And then what do they do, do they have to go to the magistrate?
[08:01.800 --> 08:12.000]  It makes up a motion and in the statutes it gives the justice of the peace exclusive jurisdiction.
[08:12.000 --> 08:18.080]  So nobody else can do this, kind of like eviction, when it comes to eviction the justice of the
[08:18.080 --> 08:23.920]  peace has exclusive jurisdiction and I've seen case law where they tried to get a district
[08:23.920 --> 08:30.520]  judge to intervene and the judge told the district judge to go scratch, I mean the JP
[08:30.520 --> 08:34.640]  told the justice of the peace, wait I'm going to get that backwards, the justice of the
[08:34.640 --> 08:42.240]  peace told the district judge to go scratch, that he didn't have any jurisdiction there
[08:42.240 --> 08:46.880]  and the JP was right.
[08:46.880 --> 08:52.760]  And that issue had been appealed all the way up to the Supreme Court and that's what the
[08:52.760 --> 08:59.160]  Supreme said, JP has exclusive jurisdiction nobody can touch it and that's what it was
[08:59.160 --> 09:02.680]  in this case, that's why I like the look of it.
[09:02.680 --> 09:11.440]  Because when it's not a matter between a public official and a private citizen, the JP's tend
[09:11.440 --> 09:20.880]  to be on the side of the citizen, we're accusing this guy of stealing the airplane and the
[09:20.880 --> 09:28.320]  justice will tend to be on our side, so it may be a way to get it back quickly without
[09:28.320 --> 09:34.360]  having to go through a whole bunch of gyrations in the courts.
[09:34.360 --> 09:44.280]  Oh, I am turning the phone lines on, if you have a question or a comment, give us a call,
[09:44.280 --> 09:58.800]  our call in number 512-646-1984, that's 512-646-1984, we'll be taking your calls all night.
[09:58.800 --> 10:08.840]  So let us know what you got, I do have some stuff going on, I've spoken before about,
[10:08.840 --> 10:15.320]  I think I've spoken on here about a project I'm working on for life extension, if anybody's
[10:15.320 --> 10:20.920]  interested in knowing more about that, send me an email, we're going to get it started
[10:20.920 --> 10:29.280]  up here pretty soon, we need about 10 people to participate with us, so if you have interest
[10:29.280 --> 10:39.280]  in living longer, send me an email to randy at rootoflawradio.com and we'll talk off
[10:39.280 --> 10:40.280]  there.
[10:40.280 --> 10:48.080]  Okay, we do have a caller, Isaac in Idaho, we've got a couple of callers.
[10:48.080 --> 10:59.080]  Hello Isaac, hello, what do you have for us today, good to talk to you guys, so my brother
[10:59.080 --> 11:09.960]  in law got a speeding ticket and it's for reckless driving and he doesn't know much
[11:09.960 --> 11:10.960]  about this.
[11:10.960 --> 11:18.320]  A speeding ticket, reckless driving, that means he was more than 15 over?
[11:18.320 --> 11:20.920]  Yes sir.
[11:20.920 --> 11:28.600]  And now that's a, this says Idaho, in Texas that would be a Class B misdemeanor, is that
[11:28.600 --> 11:32.760]  the case in Idaho?
[11:32.760 --> 11:33.760]  It is a misdemeanor.
[11:33.760 --> 11:41.440]  Well, they're all misdemeanors, a Class B misdemeanor in Texas is not heard in the municipal
[11:41.440 --> 11:50.120]  courts, heard in the county court, not municipal to JP, this one gets six months in jail, is
[11:50.120 --> 11:53.840]  it, does it have the same thing there?
[11:53.840 --> 12:06.280]  Six months and I can, it's Idaho code 49-1401, but it's six months in jail, $500 fine.
[12:06.280 --> 12:18.200]  Okay, this is Idaho and it's not a state I am up to speed on, on the traffic laws, right,
[12:18.200 --> 12:26.360]  or how the traffic code applies to the individual.
[12:26.360 --> 12:35.920]  With this much at stake, I would suggest first place you go is to subject matter jurisdiction.
[12:35.920 --> 12:46.760]  Who is authorized to enforce the transportation code, commercial transportation code in Idaho
[12:46.760 --> 12:53.320]  and was the arresting officer one of those individuals authorized?
[12:53.320 --> 12:54.320]  Right.
[12:54.320 --> 13:02.120]  I was considering asking the transportation department back for a list, but I haven't
[13:02.120 --> 13:03.120]  done that yet.
[13:03.120 --> 13:05.840]  I don't think they'll get back to me in time.
[13:05.840 --> 13:11.960]  The ticket falls for him to go in on Monday, Tuesday.
[13:11.960 --> 13:15.560]  That's not a problem, is this his first appearance?
[13:15.560 --> 13:17.520]  Yeah.
[13:17.520 --> 13:19.960]  That's going to be an arraignment.
[13:19.960 --> 13:29.880]  An arraignment is a hearing for the purpose of determining the identity of the accused
[13:29.880 --> 13:31.400]  and taking a plea.
[13:31.400 --> 13:32.400]  Okay.
[13:32.400 --> 13:39.480]  But what it really is, is the prosecutor is going to come to him and say, let's make a
[13:39.480 --> 13:40.480]  deal.
[13:40.480 --> 13:41.480]  Right.
[13:41.480 --> 13:59.080]  And if you are outwardly guilty and you can't get a subject matter jurisdiction challenge,
[13:59.080 --> 14:02.120]  my advice is take a deal.
[14:02.120 --> 14:03.120]  Yeah.
[14:03.120 --> 14:10.400]  That's what I was going to say after the jurisdiction challenge because a judge might be a lot nicer
[14:10.400 --> 14:14.600]  to him fighting it.
[14:14.600 --> 14:17.160]  Has he had anything like this before?
[14:17.160 --> 14:21.600]  No, I don't think he has a record.
[14:21.600 --> 14:29.160]  I'll have to make sure, but- If he doesn't have a serious criminal record,
[14:29.160 --> 14:35.480]  if he just has a ticket or two and they're not too egregious, and you don't give them
[14:35.480 --> 14:38.680]  too hard a time- Right.
[14:38.680 --> 14:40.640]  This goes to the discretion of the court.
[14:40.640 --> 14:46.280]  The court doesn't want to spend a lot of time on your ticket.
[14:46.280 --> 14:53.360]  What's likely to happen at this arraignment hearing is that the judge will ask him to
[14:53.360 --> 15:02.480]  talk to the prosecutor and the prosecutor is likely to offer him a deal, but tell him
[15:02.480 --> 15:03.480]  this is poker.
[15:03.480 --> 15:05.800]  This is a negotiation here.
[15:05.800 --> 15:06.800]  Yeah.
[15:06.800 --> 15:12.600]  When the prosecutor offers him a deal, give the prosecutor a counteroffer and one thing
[15:12.600 --> 15:22.600]  you want to happen is have the charge downgraded from a Class B to a Class C misdemeanor and
[15:22.600 --> 15:25.120]  then charge you a fine or something.
[15:25.120 --> 15:30.760]  Or whatever the levels are of severity in Idaho, they might have them numbered or something
[15:30.760 --> 15:31.760]  different.
[15:31.760 --> 15:32.760]  Right.
[15:32.760 --> 15:39.520]  I was wondering if it was worth asking for a reduction to infraction and then community
[15:39.520 --> 15:41.560]  service or something.
[15:41.560 --> 15:44.880]  They almost always offer that.
[15:44.880 --> 15:46.440]  Right.
[15:46.440 --> 15:53.840]  The police officer always charges the highest thing he can so that he can give the prosecutor
[15:53.840 --> 15:55.840]  more to work with.
[15:55.840 --> 15:56.840]  Right.
[15:56.840 --> 16:08.960]  I'm looking here at what he cited and it looks like there might be room for him to negotiate,
[16:08.960 --> 16:17.920]  but because the 49-1401 that he's talking about, it says that the offender carelessly
[16:17.920 --> 16:23.960]  and heedlessly or without due caution and circumspectly and at a speed or in a manner
[16:23.960 --> 16:27.360]  as to endanger or be likely to endanger.
[16:27.360 --> 16:32.800]  It looks like if he can say, hey, I wasn't being careless or heedless, I was taking due
[16:32.800 --> 16:37.840]  caution and circumspecting, yeah, maybe it's faster than you wanted me to, but I didn't
[16:37.840 --> 16:39.480]  endanger and I was taking care.
[16:39.480 --> 16:44.120]  I was being cautious.
[16:44.120 --> 16:47.520]  What was the speed limit on the highway?
[16:47.520 --> 16:51.960]  65, 103 going into 65.
[16:51.960 --> 16:57.080]  He can say I was outrageously speeding, but I was being really careful while I was outrageously
[16:57.080 --> 17:00.480]  speeding.
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[19:38.600 --> 19:46.240]  Randy Kelton with Mountain Wheel of Love Radio and we're talking to Isaac in Idaho whose
[19:46.240 --> 19:49.360]  brother has an issue.
[19:49.360 --> 19:51.440]  Yes sir.
[19:51.440 --> 19:57.160]  So, that's the only thing I can say, you know, we're here to, we fight the system, that's
[19:57.160 --> 19:59.360]  what we do.
[19:59.360 --> 20:05.000]  But first we take care of our liberty.
[20:05.000 --> 20:10.800]  And they are not going to want to put him in jail because it costs them too much.
[20:10.800 --> 20:19.040]  So if he's nice and doesn't give them a lot of grief, they're likely to bump it down to
[20:19.040 --> 20:27.800]  a Class C misdemeanor and charge him four or five hundred bucks or maybe more and give
[20:27.800 --> 20:38.560]  him something that won't cause him a lot of problems down the road.
[20:38.560 --> 20:45.360]  I can hear all those other listeners out there that are just cringing, saying, we should
[20:45.360 --> 20:50.400]  never make a deal with them, absolutely make a deal.
[20:50.400 --> 20:54.720]  For all of those out there who would fight to the bitter end, when you're sitting in
[20:54.720 --> 21:00.680]  jail, you are no help to the Patriot community.
[21:00.680 --> 21:06.600]  You can only be of help to us when you're out here doing really cool things.
[21:06.600 --> 21:11.720]  And think about being a help to your wife and your children at the same time.
[21:11.720 --> 21:12.720]  Yeah.
[21:12.720 --> 21:17.160]  Because you might be as right as you can be and you're still behind bars and it still
[21:17.160 --> 21:21.400]  affects your family in a big way.
[21:21.400 --> 21:25.040]  I spent some time there myself, I'm familiar with it.
[21:25.040 --> 21:26.040]  Okay.
[21:26.040 --> 21:29.520]  Do you have anything else for us, Isaac?
[21:29.520 --> 21:41.360]  I had a couple questions to your affirmative defense there, the element of cautious driving.
[21:41.360 --> 21:46.480]  So let's pretend I got the ticket and I'm not as nice as my brother-in-law and I want
[21:46.480 --> 21:48.720]  to fight these guys.
[21:48.720 --> 21:55.360]  If I claim I was being cautious, so the charges can't stick, what if the cop says, well,
[21:55.360 --> 22:02.160]  if you were cautious, you would have seen me and probably slowed down.
[22:02.160 --> 22:06.880]  If you were cautious, I could hear the judge, if you were cautious, you wouldn't be going
[22:06.880 --> 22:11.280]  102 and a 65.
[22:11.280 --> 22:15.200]  So this will go to the discretion of the judge.
[22:15.200 --> 22:16.200]  Yeah.
[22:16.200 --> 22:21.600]  And if I were the judge, I would throw the book at your brother.
[22:21.600 --> 22:22.600]  Right.
[22:22.600 --> 22:28.440]  You're out here on the highway with my wife and my kids and you're driving a hundred miles
[22:28.440 --> 22:35.360]  an hour in a 65 mile an hour zone, that is just not acceptable behavior.
[22:35.360 --> 22:43.200]  They may throw the book at him anyway, but fighting them will make sure they throw the
[22:43.200 --> 22:45.200]  book at you.
[22:45.200 --> 22:46.200]  Absolutely.
[22:46.200 --> 22:47.200]  Yep.
[22:47.200 --> 22:49.840]  Well, I think that's all I've got.
[22:49.840 --> 22:54.480]  I just want to say a thank you to you guys and Deborah especially for all the work she
[22:54.480 --> 22:55.480]  does.
[22:55.480 --> 22:57.680]  So have a great night.
[22:57.680 --> 22:58.680]  Okay.
[22:58.680 --> 23:00.040]  She's in the background.
[23:00.040 --> 23:01.040]  She probably heard that.
[23:01.040 --> 23:02.040]  Thanks, Isaac.
[23:02.040 --> 23:03.040]  Okay.
[23:03.040 --> 23:04.040]  Thank you.
[23:04.040 --> 23:18.480]  Now we're going to go to Charles in Georgia.
[23:18.480 --> 23:25.160]  What do you have for us today?
[23:25.160 --> 23:27.760]  I wanted to, I have two things.
[23:27.760 --> 23:34.800]  First, I wanted to know that you guys hear about the civil asset forfeiture case that
[23:34.800 --> 23:37.920]  happened in Santa Monica, California.
[23:37.920 --> 23:45.240]  No, and that has my interest because we're preparing one.
[23:45.240 --> 23:46.240]  Tell me about it.
[23:46.240 --> 23:49.240]  So what is happening there?
[23:49.240 --> 23:55.800]  There's a couple of marijuana dispensaries there in the county.
[23:55.800 --> 24:07.480]  And what is happening is the sheriffs are intercepting the brinks trucks that is coming
[24:07.480 --> 24:11.000]  from the marijuana dispensaries.
[24:11.000 --> 24:17.160]  And I think the sheriffs has pulled over two brinks trucks, each truck had about a million
[24:17.160 --> 24:18.960]  bucks in it.
[24:18.960 --> 24:25.080]  And what they're doing is they're pulling people over saying things like, oh, well,
[24:25.080 --> 24:26.880]  you put your blinker on too soon.
[24:26.880 --> 24:30.200]  So we had to pull you over.
[24:30.200 --> 24:33.040]  And by the way, what have you got in here?
[24:33.040 --> 24:34.040]  Okay.
[24:34.040 --> 24:35.040]  Now it's a blinks truck.
[24:35.040 --> 24:36.040]  What do you think they got in there?
[24:36.040 --> 24:37.560]  They got money in there.
[24:37.560 --> 24:42.840]  And what they're doing is, since they know it's from the dispensary, from the marijuana
[24:42.840 --> 24:47.540]  dispensary, they are just seizing the money.
[24:47.540 --> 24:52.200]  And they're quickly handing it over to the feds.
[24:52.200 --> 25:02.800]  And what that does is that allows them to get a kickback of 80% and the feds keep 20.
[25:02.800 --> 25:07.760]  And they're making the dispensary fight to get their, yeah, they're making the dispensary
[25:07.760 --> 25:11.200]  fight to get the money back.
[25:11.200 --> 25:18.720]  And they're seizing the money based on the fact that it's still federal, against the
[25:18.720 --> 25:24.600]  federal law to produce marijuana.
[25:24.600 --> 25:30.160]  And not that they can prove anything, they just say, hey, this is a million bucks and
[25:30.160 --> 25:32.280]  we can take it.
[25:32.280 --> 25:37.880]  Are they seizing the, are they pulling over the blinks trucks in California?
[25:37.880 --> 25:38.880]  Yes.
[25:38.880 --> 25:41.880]  Santa Monica, California.
[25:41.880 --> 25:47.720]  Then we don't get to feds and yes, that's just, there's a big problem with asset forfeiture
[25:47.720 --> 25:50.040]  scam.
[25:50.040 --> 25:56.160]  Most of these guys will not go after the policeman criminally.
[25:56.160 --> 26:04.240]  We are preparing a rather large asset forfeiture scam case here in Texas.
[26:04.240 --> 26:08.160]  And we're going after them individually.
[26:08.160 --> 26:11.240]  I see.
[26:11.240 --> 26:17.000]  Otherwise you try to fight them civilly, they're going to keep you in court and just completely
[26:17.000 --> 26:20.760]  exhaust your ability to fight them.
[26:20.760 --> 26:22.720]  And then they get to swallow your money.
[26:22.720 --> 26:33.440]  It's in their financial best interest to do that.
[26:33.440 --> 26:39.760]  And yeah, I wanted to know, you know, what you guys thought about it.
[26:39.760 --> 26:44.680]  And I had another question, but of course I already know what you think about it.
[26:44.680 --> 26:48.640]  I just want, I definitely want to bring it up for all your listeners that listen to it,
[26:48.640 --> 26:54.240]  just in case they hadn't heard it either.
[26:54.240 --> 27:03.280]  It's certainly something that needs corrective legislation to allow public officials to seize
[27:03.280 --> 27:11.520]  assets, liquidate the assets and then profit from the liquidation is an absolute conflict
[27:11.520 --> 27:12.520]  of interest.
[27:12.520 --> 27:17.200]  That's a very kind way to put it, Randy.
[27:17.200 --> 27:21.800]  I understand you're on the radio and there's a whole bunch of four letter words that you
[27:21.800 --> 27:24.040]  keep put in there.
[27:24.040 --> 27:32.160]  I can put in highway robbery and that's one that ought to be charged against them criminally
[27:32.160 --> 27:39.280]  and let them explain themselves to a grand jury, a state grand jury, not a federal grand
[27:39.280 --> 27:41.200]  jury.
[27:41.200 --> 27:48.680]  This breaches the separation of powers and I thought Ashcroft already, Ashcroft already
[27:48.680 --> 27:59.720]  got his knuckles smacked over that back in the early days of legalized marijuana in California.
[27:59.720 --> 28:06.400]  They came in and shut down all of the marijuana shops and that went through the courts and
[28:06.400 --> 28:11.360]  they got shot down, so this has already been handled.
[28:11.360 --> 28:14.760]  I've got a lot of background noise.
[28:14.760 --> 28:16.760]  Sorry about that.
[28:16.760 --> 28:20.400]  Can you still hear me pretty good?
[28:20.400 --> 28:21.400]  Yes.
[28:21.400 --> 28:22.400]  Okay.
[28:22.400 --> 28:32.000]  The next thing I want to begin into is land patent and I wanted to know what do you think
[28:32.000 --> 28:38.480]  about a land patent and how do you go about doing it?
[28:38.480 --> 28:40.920]  Depends on where you're at.
[28:40.920 --> 28:43.880]  Texas is different from every other state.
[28:43.880 --> 28:49.440]  Land patents is a double edged sword.
[28:49.440 --> 28:58.440]  Most people are doing the land patents in order to get out of a property tax, but when
[28:58.440 --> 29:07.680]  you get out of property tax, then you don't have a right to profit or benefit from the
[29:07.680 --> 29:12.960]  services that are paid for with those property taxes.
[29:12.960 --> 29:22.760]  Police enforcement, fire departments and there are others, so you would have to contract
[29:22.760 --> 29:28.600]  for that individually with the departments and at the end of the day, it's likely to
[29:28.600 --> 29:33.160]  cost you about as much as if you just paid the taxes.
[29:33.160 --> 29:39.760]  There are other ways of doing it and it is pretty well state dependent.
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[33:31.320 --> 33:48.920]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio, and we're talking to, who
[33:48.920 --> 33:49.920]  am I talking to?
[33:49.920 --> 33:50.920]  I lost my page.
[33:50.920 --> 33:51.920]  Charles and Georgia.
[33:51.920 --> 33:58.480]  Charles and Georgia, I actually remembered that.
[33:58.480 --> 33:59.480]  I'm getting better.
[33:59.480 --> 34:00.480]  Okay.
[34:00.480 --> 34:12.920]  Charles and Georgia, Charles, Georgia and Charles, okay, I did a Google, I did a Google
[34:12.920 --> 34:23.760]  of Land Patents Georgia, and I got a hit on, no it didn't.
[34:23.760 --> 34:29.480]  It showed something 42, but when I clicked on it, it didn't show me what that was, Georgia
[34:29.480 --> 34:30.480]  Land Patents.
[34:30.480 --> 34:43.720]  I got a site, thelandpatents.com, so just do a search for Georgia Land Patents, and it
[34:43.720 --> 34:49.440]  shows that there are 42, is there are 42 of them.
[34:49.440 --> 34:59.320]  Georgia is an agency, a SINOR based in, Georgia bracket state, is an agency, a SINOR based
[34:59.320 --> 35:02.800]  in Georgia for 42 patents.
[35:02.800 --> 35:10.480]  I have no idea what that means, but just look it up, research out land patents for Georgia,
[35:10.480 --> 35:15.120]  and then call us back next week and tell us how to do a land patent there.
[35:15.120 --> 35:20.120]  But more than that, tell us what the consequences are.
[35:20.120 --> 35:24.640]  Okay, no problem.
[35:24.640 --> 35:33.560]  I did have one more thing that I wanted to run by you to see what you thought about it.
[35:33.560 --> 35:44.400]  In Michigan, man, my mom had gotten the COVID stimulus money from the unemployment agency
[35:44.400 --> 35:51.960]  last year, and now it seems that they are sending letters out, they sent the letter
[35:51.960 --> 35:59.080]  out to my mom saying, hey, we believe you committed fraud, we gave you the money, we
[35:59.080 --> 36:04.240]  approved it, but we believe you committed fraud, so what we want you to do is we want
[36:04.240 --> 36:07.800]  you to pay us back all of the money, we'll put you on a payment program if you don't
[36:07.800 --> 36:11.400]  have all of the money right now, and you can just start paying us now, and we're going
[36:11.400 --> 36:17.920]  to take your taxes if you don't.
[36:17.920 --> 36:28.560]  My first thought was don't pay him a dime, tell him to prove it, and prove the fraud,
[36:28.560 --> 36:29.560]  and then go from there.
[36:29.560 --> 36:33.040]  Well, what they're doing is, just go ahead.
[36:33.040 --> 36:41.320]  Are you sure that this is the state coming after them and not a scam?
[36:41.320 --> 36:51.480]  Nope, because there is an actual lawsuit against the state for doing this in a blanket.
[36:51.480 --> 36:56.320]  I think they've gone after something like 50,000 people.
[36:56.320 --> 37:08.600]  Oh, she needs to contact whoever is prosecuting the suit and ask to be added as a litigant,
[37:08.600 --> 37:11.800]  and that will put a stop on the collections.
[37:11.800 --> 37:20.720]  Well, yeah, the class action lawsuit is going on now, but the problem is there's not a
[37:20.720 --> 37:24.960]  direct suit, there's a class action going on, and you know how long those take, but
[37:24.960 --> 37:28.320]  what they're doing now, they're still- Well, that's what I mean, call and get herself
[37:28.320 --> 37:34.360]  added to the class, and that will abate any collection actions against her.
[37:34.360 --> 37:42.160]  Well, that's what she would think, but that's not happening.
[37:42.160 --> 37:48.800]  Even with the, she's already doing an appeal, or they're actually looking into it, doing
[37:48.800 --> 37:55.760]  an appeal, but they're still telling her, keep making the payments while we do the appeal.
[37:55.760 --> 38:01.560]  Okay, hold on, this is not the beginning of this issue.
[38:01.560 --> 38:08.400]  So she has already, okay, let me understand this.
[38:08.400 --> 38:16.800]  I got the idea that when the state came after her, they claimed that they had already made
[38:16.800 --> 38:22.280]  a judicial determination that she had committed fraud, is that correct?
[38:22.280 --> 38:23.760]  Yes.
[38:23.760 --> 38:29.960]  So how has that judicial determination made?
[38:29.960 --> 38:38.960]  It was an administrative determination, not judicial outside of the Michigan unemployment
[38:38.960 --> 38:39.960]  agent.
[38:39.960 --> 38:45.960]  Okay, so have you looked at the administrative act for, was this Michigan?
[38:45.960 --> 38:48.760]  For Michigan, that's correct.
[38:48.760 --> 38:55.560]  Michigan, it's close to California and being one of the most corrupt states.
[38:55.560 --> 39:02.480]  This draws a question, who gave, who paid out the money, was it the state or the Fed?
[39:02.480 --> 39:13.120]  And is Michigan attempting to collect the money for the state or the Fed?
[39:13.120 --> 39:20.080]  That last part, I'm not sure about that last part, but it's definitely the Fed gave the
[39:20.080 --> 39:26.800]  money to the state and the state gave the money out through unemployment.
[39:26.800 --> 39:30.840]  So this is the Fed's money, it's not the state's money?
[39:30.840 --> 39:34.760]  No, no.
[39:34.760 --> 39:37.120]  So the state's trying to collect it?
[39:37.120 --> 39:38.120]  Yes.
[39:38.120 --> 39:41.240]  What are they going to do with it when they collect it?
[39:41.240 --> 39:48.480]  Are they going to spend it or are they going to put it back in the fund?
[39:48.480 --> 39:53.480]  This is important to give them standing.
[39:53.480 --> 39:59.680]  I'm not sure what they're going to do with it.
[39:59.680 --> 40:04.320]  Whichever, it is way out of my scope.
[40:04.320 --> 40:07.880]  Your scope and, is this your sister?
[40:07.880 --> 40:12.480]  No, actually it's my mom and my auntie.
[40:12.480 --> 40:13.480]  Oh, okay.
[40:13.480 --> 40:21.440]  Yeah, it's actually two different people and there's other people that we know that they
[40:21.440 --> 40:29.480]  sent these letters of redetermination and they sent it a year later after the fact.
[40:29.480 --> 40:35.840]  So they got a couple of issues there.
[40:35.840 --> 40:41.280]  Year is not enough for statute of limitations, but it is enough to show negligence on their
[40:41.280 --> 40:43.880]  part.
[40:43.880 --> 40:53.520]  They created, they approved the application and then later on when the claim would be
[40:53.520 --> 41:02.080]  so outrageous that nobody could pay it, they came back and claimed that these people committed
[41:02.080 --> 41:03.080]  fraud.
[41:03.080 --> 41:07.800]  How are they claiming fraud?
[41:07.800 --> 41:11.160]  And that's the thing that my mom asked.
[41:11.160 --> 41:16.960]  They asked her to send the documents again, the same exact documents that she sent in
[41:16.960 --> 41:17.960]  before.
[41:17.960 --> 41:18.960]  Okay, okay.
[41:18.960 --> 41:24.840]  When she requested the documents, did she request them under open records or did she
[41:24.840 --> 41:26.840]  request them through the courts?
[41:26.840 --> 41:28.840]  No, no, no.
[41:28.840 --> 41:38.400]  The unemployment agency requested to see the W-2s for which she worked, not through the
[41:38.400 --> 41:39.400]  courts.
[41:39.400 --> 41:43.840]  We haven't taken any court action yet.
[41:43.840 --> 41:53.680]  Everything has been administrative through the unemployment insurance agency so far.
[41:53.680 --> 41:54.680]  This sounds problematic.
[41:54.680 --> 42:04.120]  This sounds like something that's going to go to legislation.
[42:04.120 --> 42:11.680]  It's too complex for me to address here, but it does sound like if these people stand up
[42:11.680 --> 42:17.480]  against them, their state will have a very difficult time.
[42:17.480 --> 42:25.440]  Are they claiming that the income statements were fraudulent?
[42:25.440 --> 42:32.640]  Yes, they're claiming that...
[42:32.640 --> 42:35.680]  Did they provide evidence in support of the claim?
[42:35.680 --> 42:36.680]  No.
[42:36.680 --> 42:44.080]  As a matter of fact, what they're doing is they're sending out a letter saying, we believe
[42:44.080 --> 42:54.320]  you have committed fraud and upon this re-determination, you owe us this and that's it.
[42:54.320 --> 42:55.320]  We believe.
[42:55.320 --> 42:59.920]  Tell your mother to file a counterclaim.
[42:59.920 --> 43:05.520]  That sounds like they're imposing their religious beliefs on somebody else.
[43:05.520 --> 43:11.040]  That's all they've got to go on is a belief.
[43:11.040 --> 43:23.000]  My first reaction when my mom first told me what happened is to immediately go to one
[43:23.000 --> 43:29.680]  of the state courts and ask for injunctive relief or file an injunction to stop, to not
[43:29.680 --> 43:34.520]  have her taxes taken because they're threatening to take her taxes.
[43:34.520 --> 43:42.280]  Return to file for a prove-up hearing, emergency restraining order to stop the collections
[43:42.280 --> 43:46.320]  and then a prove-up hearing to show cause to collect the funds.
[43:46.320 --> 43:47.320]  Hang on.
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[46:20.840 --> 46:46.080]  Okay, we are back, Randy Keltenbrecht, Fountain Rule of Law Radio, and we're talking to Charles
[46:46.080 --> 46:47.080]  in Georgia.
[46:47.080 --> 46:51.200]  Yes, we were talking on the break about Michigan.
[46:51.200 --> 46:56.440]  Michigan has no grand juries and it's one of the more corrupt states.
[46:56.440 --> 47:02.960]  This administrative agency can force collect all these funds, put it in an account, and
[47:02.960 --> 47:05.960]  collect interest on the account.
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[47:13.200 --> 47:18.800]  But then you've got to go back and bring them back into court to force them to give you
[47:18.800 --> 47:19.800]  the money.
[47:19.800 --> 47:24.200]  And all this time they're collecting interest on the funds.
[47:24.200 --> 47:27.200]  So it's in their best interest to screw you around.
[47:27.200 --> 47:37.760]  And most people just simply don't have the funds to take on the state unless they use
[47:37.760 --> 47:45.200]  some of our techniques and file criminally against the director of the agency.
[47:45.200 --> 47:57.400]  You know, they had this same problem maybe 10 years back and the director of the agency
[47:57.400 --> 48:03.920]  was under some extreme scrutiny to the tune of criminal charges, if I'm not mistaken.
[48:03.920 --> 48:08.920]  If every one of those people files criminal charges against the director because he didn't
[48:08.920 --> 48:21.920]  do his due diligence before he paid this out and just accused him of fraud and embezzlement
[48:21.920 --> 48:26.600]  and let him prove he didn't.
[48:26.600 --> 48:30.040]  We don't use the criminal card.
[48:30.040 --> 48:34.400]  That's the most powerful tool we have.
[48:34.400 --> 48:43.320]  This director, if he gets 5,000 criminal complaints filed against him, that's going to eliminate
[48:43.320 --> 48:48.720]  any bonding he may have.
[48:48.720 --> 48:54.980]  It will almost certainly make him unemployable.
[48:54.980 --> 48:59.920]  So everybody fights the agency, fight the individuals.
[48:59.920 --> 49:07.440]  We're preparing an asset forfeiture case here in Texas, and we're saying the state of Texas
[49:07.440 --> 49:13.240]  didn't steal this, the state of Texas didn't commit all these crimes, the state can't commit
[49:13.240 --> 49:14.240]  crimes.
[49:14.240 --> 49:21.840]  It's like corporations, corporations can't commit crimes, people commit crimes, directors
[49:21.840 --> 49:31.960]  of agencies, the president of a corporation or the chairman of the board of a corporation,
[49:31.960 --> 49:37.720]  they commit crimes, so go after them criminally.
[49:37.720 --> 49:44.360]  The government sued the tobacco companies three times, the first two times they lost
[49:44.360 --> 49:48.520]  because the tobacco companies had endless funds.
[49:48.520 --> 49:56.840]  The third time they filed a RICO suit, and the director said, whoa, hold on here, this
[49:56.840 --> 50:02.920]  can get us put in jail, then they came to the table to make a deal.
[50:02.920 --> 50:13.440]  So are there any groups in Michigan gathering to address this issue, to your knowledge?
[50:13.440 --> 50:22.600]  So to my knowledge, the only group that's gathering is the, like I said, the lawsuit
[50:22.600 --> 50:30.000]  that they're putting before the courts now with the ballots.
[50:30.000 --> 50:36.560]  Well, let's see if you can get a copy of that lawsuit.
[50:36.560 --> 50:44.920]  It will have the names and addresses of every single member of the suit, send a letter to
[50:44.920 --> 50:48.880]  each one of them, craft a criminal complaint.
[50:48.880 --> 50:53.280]  You'd have to do some research on the agencies, see what the agency's rules are.
[50:53.280 --> 51:01.080]  You have to find them violating a rule or not directly violating a rule, something where
[51:01.080 --> 51:04.680]  you can make it look like they're doing something improper.
[51:04.680 --> 51:10.600]  Turn it into a criminal complaint and send it to every one of these people that are in
[51:10.600 --> 51:17.400]  the suit and encourage them to file criminally against the agency.
[51:17.400 --> 51:29.960]  Now, see, that sounds like something that can be done, something that ought to be done.
[51:29.960 --> 51:35.240]  And those people in the agencies, they send you these documents and they don't have anybody's
[51:35.240 --> 51:37.760]  name on it.
[51:37.760 --> 51:44.960]  Any time you get a document without a name on it, you go to respond yet superior.
[51:44.960 --> 51:49.640]  That's the director of the agency, so you file against him.
[51:49.640 --> 51:57.120]  If someone puts their name on it, you file against whoever puts their name on the document.
[51:57.120 --> 52:00.760]  Okay.
[52:00.760 --> 52:01.760]  You got to get mean.
[52:01.760 --> 52:02.760]  Get down and dirty.
[52:02.760 --> 52:10.920]  Well, you see, if not me, because if it was me, I never would have paid them a dime in
[52:10.920 --> 52:15.720]  the first place and made them prove fraud, because fraud is a criminal allegation that
[52:15.720 --> 52:17.800]  could actually get me put in jail.
[52:17.800 --> 52:21.240]  So you're not going to come get my money.
[52:21.240 --> 52:31.200]  There is nothing preventing you from giving notice of crime, even if it's in another state,
[52:31.200 --> 52:33.200]  makes no difference.
[52:33.200 --> 52:38.600]  You don't have to have it happen to you.
[52:38.600 --> 52:44.000]  You don't need standing to file a criminal complaint.
[52:44.000 --> 52:46.720]  Gotcha.
[52:46.720 --> 52:54.360]  So find anybody that's up to fighting them and prepare the complaints for them and give
[52:54.360 --> 52:55.360]  them to them.
[52:55.360 --> 53:02.040]  All they have to do is sign them before an order and file them.
[53:02.040 --> 53:11.240]  And when you file a complaint against the agency, also send a complaint to the legislators.
[53:11.240 --> 53:18.680]  Enter their houses, their state refuse, send a letter to the complaint to him.
[53:18.680 --> 53:30.880]  On this issue of teaching in the schools, the what, race theory, lost the first question.
[53:30.880 --> 53:34.440]  Oh yeah, CRT, critical race theory.
[53:34.440 --> 53:41.360]  I was listening to a program on public radio and these two individuals were just whining
[53:41.360 --> 53:44.680]  and complaining, oh, it's awful.
[53:44.680 --> 53:52.480]  All of these no good rotten red states are passing laws forbidding teachers to teach
[53:52.480 --> 53:53.480]  critical race theory.
[53:53.480 --> 53:59.160]  Oh, they're denying them in their first amendment right and blah, blah, blah.
[53:59.160 --> 54:09.040]  I listened to that and that told me that all of this hubblu about critical race theory,
[54:09.040 --> 54:12.200]  our legislators were listening.
[54:12.200 --> 54:18.560]  They were paying attention and they started coming back with all kinds of laws to put
[54:18.560 --> 54:20.600]  a stop to this stuff.
[54:20.600 --> 54:25.920]  Make noise, Charles, make noise.
[54:25.920 --> 54:33.600]  Send all these people to make up a letter for them, here, send this to your legislator.
[54:33.600 --> 54:39.000]  And send this federal money as well to state and federal legislators.
[54:39.000 --> 54:41.280]  Nobody talks to them for the most part.
[54:41.280 --> 54:48.120]  I go to these subcommittee hearings in Texas in a state of 29 million people and there
[54:48.120 --> 54:50.440]  are 120 people there.
[54:50.440 --> 55:00.080]  A hundred of them are special interests, guys who are lobbyists for certain legislation
[55:00.080 --> 55:04.800]  and companies, 20 people were citizens.
[55:04.800 --> 55:10.840]  And when a citizen got up in front of that committee and listened, everybody spoke, everybody
[55:10.840 --> 55:14.440]  sat up and listened.
[55:14.440 --> 55:17.760]  All you have to do is participate.
[55:17.760 --> 55:23.240]  You're the most powerful guy in the room and that legislator knows it.
[55:23.240 --> 55:27.600]  For every face he sees, he sees at least 15 votes.
[55:27.600 --> 55:33.720]  And for every person that guy can turn, it's 15 more votes.
[55:33.720 --> 55:36.520]  Their sphere of influence.
[55:36.520 --> 55:40.760]  Your legislators will pay close attention to the public.
[55:40.760 --> 55:44.960]  Give you ideas, Charles?
[55:44.960 --> 55:47.960]  Sure did, sure did.
[55:47.960 --> 55:53.160]  So I'm going to pontificate a little bit over the weekend and see what I can come up with.
[55:53.160 --> 55:54.160]  I might give you a call back tomorrow.
[55:54.160 --> 55:55.160]  I know you probably got other callers tonight.
[55:55.160 --> 55:56.160]  Got one more issue, but we'll talk about that tomorrow.
[55:56.160 --> 55:57.160]  I'll call you tomorrow.
[55:57.160 --> 55:58.160]  Okay, thank you.
[55:58.160 --> 55:59.160]  Now we're going to go to Joel in Ohio.
[55:59.160 --> 56:00.160]  Joel, I understand you are a first-time caller.
[56:00.160 --> 56:01.160]  Yes, sir.
[56:01.160 --> 56:02.160]  What do you have for us today?
[56:02.160 --> 56:25.160]  I have an incident with a hospital, can you hear me?
[56:25.160 --> 56:29.800]  Okay, what was the incident?
[56:29.800 --> 56:39.880]  I had to go into the emergency room and I got the bill after the fact.
[56:39.880 --> 56:52.000]  I did the right thing, everything I was supposed to do, and this hospital has done wrong to
[56:52.000 --> 56:57.400]  me before and gotten me to pay a bill I wasn't responsible for.
[56:57.400 --> 57:03.360]  So this time I learned and made a record of it.
[57:03.360 --> 57:10.040]  So I tried to do a payment plan with them through their email service.
[57:10.040 --> 57:18.000]  They never responded to the email and I kept waiting, knowing I had the window to wait,
[57:18.000 --> 57:21.880]  and they ended up sending it to their collections agency.
[57:21.880 --> 57:25.640]  Oh, good.
[57:25.640 --> 57:28.920]  Collection agencies are a low-hanging fruit.
[57:28.920 --> 57:31.760]  Have you filed a dispute letter?
[57:31.760 --> 57:32.760]  I did.
[57:32.760 --> 57:37.640]  I sent a certified mail with receipt.
[57:37.640 --> 57:44.680]  Did you check to see if they had pulled this from your credit reports?
[57:44.680 --> 57:48.880]  Well, that's where it gets more interesting.
[57:48.880 --> 57:55.400]  They are a tax-exempt non-profit hospital, I don't know if you're aware of this yet.
[57:55.400 --> 58:00.400]  Maybe they are, but the collection agency is not.
[58:00.400 --> 58:01.400]  Right.
[58:01.400 --> 58:02.400]  Wait.
[58:02.400 --> 58:06.840]  Go ahead.
[58:06.840 --> 58:16.240]  My point with that is their policy structure is based off the tax-exempt rules from the
[58:16.240 --> 58:17.740]  IRS.
[58:17.740 --> 58:20.840]  They haven't sold it.
[58:20.840 --> 58:26.480]  The collection agency said they haven't sold it to them yet, but this is a long story,
[58:26.480 --> 58:30.640]  and I hope I have enough time to explain it all.
[58:30.640 --> 58:34.640]  You're not going to on this show, this is just to our show.
[58:34.640 --> 58:39.240]  What I suggest you do is construct a timeline, and when we come back on the other side I'll
[58:39.240 --> 58:40.640]  explain what that is.
[58:40.640 --> 58:44.320]  It'll be the most important tool you can have.
[58:44.320 --> 58:50.480]  Hang on, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, we'll be right back.
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[01:00:50.920 --> 01:00:52.400]  third party there.
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[01:00:59.760 --> 01:01:01.360]  was designed to prevent.
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[01:01:05.560 --> 01:01:07.680]  the days of our founding fathers.
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[01:01:09.680 --> 01:01:13.840]  So if you answer a knock at your door and guys in fatigues demand lodging, tell them
[01:01:13.840 --> 01:01:17.480]  to dust off their copy of the Bill of Rights and reread the Third Amendment.
[01:01:17.480 --> 01:01:19.160]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht.
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[01:01:32.360 --> 01:01:36.040]  The Bill of Rights contains the first 10 amendments of our Constitution.
[01:01:36.040 --> 01:01:39.480]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[01:01:39.480 --> 01:01:40.920]  Our liberty depends on it.
[01:01:40.920 --> 01:01:44.840]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember
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[01:03:05.920 --> 01:03:33.920]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rue La La Radio, and we're talking to Joel
[01:03:33.920 --> 01:03:34.920]  in Ohio.
[01:03:34.920 --> 01:03:41.160]  Okay, Joel, what knowledge or background do you have in debt collection?
[01:03:41.160 --> 01:03:46.000]  Well, that's what I wish I would have started with.
[01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:47.800]  I wish I would have started with thanking you guys.
[01:03:47.800 --> 01:03:54.680]  I'm very rookie level with all this.
[01:03:54.680 --> 01:03:57.560]  I have only been listening to you guys for maybe a year.
[01:03:57.560 --> 01:04:01.120]  I got jurisdictionary less than a year ago.
[01:04:01.120 --> 01:04:02.680]  I wish I would have found you a long time ago.
[01:04:02.680 --> 01:04:05.840]  You would have saved me a lot of headaches, and I thank you guys so much for what you're
[01:04:05.840 --> 01:04:06.840]  doing.
[01:04:06.840 --> 01:04:17.240]  Well, the trick is to not getting headaches is you need to become a carrier.
[01:04:17.240 --> 01:04:18.240]  Okay.
[01:04:18.240 --> 01:04:19.240]  Ta-da.
[01:04:19.240 --> 01:04:20.240]  Oh, well.
[01:04:20.240 --> 01:04:28.440]  Sometimes it works, sometimes it don't, but okay.
[01:04:28.440 --> 01:04:39.680]  So they have a collection agency, and the collection agency, is it employed by the hospital
[01:04:39.680 --> 01:04:43.880]  or have they sold the debt to the collection agency?
[01:04:43.880 --> 01:04:50.800]  That's a great question, and they're in the gray area, I guess is the best way to explain
[01:04:50.800 --> 01:04:51.800]  it.
[01:04:51.800 --> 01:05:00.680]  They're a separate collection agency working through a building that the hospital owns,
[01:05:00.680 --> 01:05:04.120]  and they're claiming that they're two separate entities.
[01:05:04.120 --> 01:05:10.200]  Let me explain to everybody else why I ask that question that way.
[01:05:10.200 --> 01:05:18.720]  If someone owes me a debt, I can try to collect that myself, or I can hire someone to try
[01:05:18.720 --> 01:05:25.280]  to collect that for me, or I can sell the debt to someone else.
[01:05:25.280 --> 01:05:30.120]  So they buy it from me, and then I don't have anything else to do with it.
[01:05:30.120 --> 01:05:38.080]  The consumer protection laws for debt collectors will not apply if I have hired a company to
[01:05:38.080 --> 01:05:40.800]  collect for me.
[01:05:40.800 --> 01:05:46.560]  They only apply to a company that has purchased the debt.
[01:05:46.560 --> 01:05:49.560]  That's why that's an important question.
[01:05:49.560 --> 01:05:54.440]  But even so, collecting the debt is extremely difficult.
[01:05:54.440 --> 01:05:57.880]  I got a curveball for you.
[01:05:57.880 --> 01:05:58.880]  Go ahead.
[01:05:58.880 --> 01:06:01.880]  It's not delinquent.
[01:06:01.880 --> 01:06:10.760]  Okay, hold on, wait a minute, that's your cursor.
[01:06:10.760 --> 01:06:13.800]  How is it not delinquent?
[01:06:13.800 --> 01:06:22.240]  They have an option, I tried to settle a payment plan with them.
[01:06:22.240 --> 01:06:28.160]  I had all intentions to pay the bill through a payment plan, and they gave the option in
[01:06:28.160 --> 01:06:32.200]  their policy to either call them or email them.
[01:06:32.200 --> 01:06:38.400]  I emailed them and said, I can't pay it in full, I need to set up a payment plan.
[01:06:38.400 --> 01:06:39.400]  They never responded.
[01:06:39.400 --> 01:06:43.920]  Are they required to offer a payment plan?
[01:06:43.920 --> 01:06:45.400]  Yes.
[01:06:45.400 --> 01:06:51.680]  Then great opportunity to file suit.
[01:06:51.680 --> 01:06:55.400]  I have them on so many different things, I don't know where to start.
[01:06:55.400 --> 01:07:04.480]  I got them on the contract, I got them on- Okay, hold on, hold on, I know where to start.
[01:07:04.480 --> 01:07:11.680]  Go back to the beginning, go back to when you first sought out their services and create
[01:07:11.680 --> 01:07:12.680]  a timeline.
[01:07:12.680 --> 01:07:17.480]  The timeline is not a statement of facts.
[01:07:17.480 --> 01:07:19.720]  On this day, I went to the hospital.
[01:07:19.720 --> 01:07:24.160]  On this day, they did this thing, this thing, this thing.
[01:07:24.160 --> 01:07:32.840]  Just what happened when it happened, very briefly, this is a mnemonic tool.
[01:07:32.840 --> 01:07:38.480]  It's designed to put everything that happened in chronological order.
[01:07:38.480 --> 01:07:40.600]  You go down through this timeline and fill it out.
[01:07:40.600 --> 01:07:45.720]  You won't get everything in there because of the way memory works.
[01:07:45.720 --> 01:07:48.600]  We tend to move our memory around.
[01:07:48.600 --> 01:07:57.420]  We used to think that the way we did memories, we went in the mine and read memory and then
[01:07:57.420 --> 01:07:58.420]  spoke it out.
[01:07:58.420 --> 01:08:03.560]  That's not the way it works, turns out, that we actually go in and take the memory out.
[01:08:03.560 --> 01:08:07.240]  We experience the memory and the telling and put back the re-experience.
[01:08:07.240 --> 01:08:13.240]  That explains why people get things out of context and out of place chronologically.
[01:08:13.240 --> 01:08:18.680]  Things get all mixed up, so build a timeline.
[01:08:18.680 --> 01:08:23.720]  Don't worry about getting everything, just start from the front and go to the back.
[01:08:23.720 --> 01:08:26.520]  Once you get to the end, come back and go down it again.
[01:08:26.520 --> 01:08:30.240]  You'll read this happened and this happened, you'll say, wait a minute, wait a minute,
[01:08:30.240 --> 01:08:31.240]  wait a minute.
[01:08:31.240 --> 01:08:33.280]  Something else happened in between there.
[01:08:33.280 --> 01:08:41.200]  When I get people's cases and they tell me what happened, they always leave out stuff.
[01:08:41.200 --> 01:08:46.480]  The major reason they leave out stuff is they don't know it's important.
[01:08:46.480 --> 01:08:53.320]  I look at it and I'm generally looking for things that they don't know to look for.
[01:08:53.320 --> 01:08:55.520]  They don't know matters.
[01:08:55.520 --> 01:08:59.280]  They'll only tell you what they think matters.
[01:08:59.280 --> 01:09:04.040]  You will only tell yourself what you think matters, so build a timeline.
[01:09:04.040 --> 01:09:10.960]  Once you have that built, then everything else will flow from that timeline and you
[01:09:10.960 --> 01:09:16.120]  will find more claims against them than you can get to.
[01:09:16.120 --> 01:09:23.160]  The difficulty is not finding claims, but sorting out the claims that you want to take
[01:09:23.160 --> 01:09:33.200]  on and what we do is we go through the whole timeline and then we look down at it and list
[01:09:33.200 --> 01:09:42.560]  out all of the claims that can be extracted from this timeline, then we build a story.
[01:09:42.560 --> 01:09:46.600]  It's not enough just to throw facts at a jury.
[01:09:46.600 --> 01:09:50.120]  You need to throw a story at them.
[01:09:50.120 --> 01:09:54.480]  They didn't just haphazardly do all these wrong things.
[01:09:54.480 --> 01:09:57.080]  They did this on purpose.
[01:09:57.080 --> 01:10:01.920]  They had this plan, this strategy, and they were running this strategy on me to steal
[01:10:01.920 --> 01:10:03.600]  all my money.
[01:10:03.600 --> 01:10:04.600]  Evil intent.
[01:10:04.600 --> 01:10:05.600]  Yeah.
[01:10:05.600 --> 01:10:06.600]  Mids raya.
[01:10:06.600 --> 01:10:07.600]  Mm-hmm.
[01:10:07.600 --> 01:10:17.160]  Then we go back and pull out those claims that fit our story.
[01:10:17.160 --> 01:10:22.920]  Now once we have those, now we turn them into causes of action.
[01:10:22.920 --> 01:10:29.320]  Each step we take grows from the one before it.
[01:10:29.320 --> 01:10:38.400]  Once we have all of the claims in place, then we turn that into causes of action and then
[01:10:38.400 --> 01:10:42.960]  the last thing we do is a statement of facts.
[01:10:42.960 --> 01:10:46.780]  Statement of facts is an art form.
[01:10:46.780 --> 01:10:53.560]  What you want to do is figure out the story you're going to tell that makes all of these
[01:10:53.560 --> 01:10:56.160]  pieces fit together.
[01:10:56.160 --> 01:11:02.360]  Then you go in and pull facts out that goes to each step in the story.
[01:11:02.360 --> 01:11:07.040]  You build a statement of facts that way.
[01:11:07.040 --> 01:11:11.240]  Then you build an introduction.
[01:11:11.240 --> 01:11:14.640]  This is what I'm going to prove.
[01:11:14.640 --> 01:11:17.760]  You tell the reader that.
[01:11:17.760 --> 01:11:22.440]  Then you go to the statement of facts and the reader, you've told them what you're
[01:11:22.440 --> 01:11:25.520]  going to try to prove.
[01:11:25.520 --> 01:11:31.920]  Then when they start reading these facts, the reader will try to put those facts together
[01:11:31.920 --> 01:11:39.560]  in a way that leads to the claims that you're making.
[01:11:39.560 --> 01:11:43.440]  Do the facts fit what he's going to try to prove?
[01:11:43.440 --> 01:11:51.520]  You've calmed your reader into considering the facts from the perspective that you want
[01:11:51.520 --> 01:11:54.400]  them to.
[01:11:54.400 --> 01:12:00.720]  Then when they go through your points and authorities, after the facts, you put together
[01:12:00.720 --> 01:12:03.040]  a statement of fact and law.
[01:12:03.040 --> 01:12:05.840]  You add law to the facts.
[01:12:05.840 --> 01:12:06.840]  Here's the fact.
[01:12:06.840 --> 01:12:11.200]  Here's the law that shows why this fact matters.
[01:12:11.200 --> 01:12:15.360]  They've read the facts and they've made their own determinations.
[01:12:15.360 --> 01:12:21.160]  When they read your arguments in support, where you add the law in support of your claims,
[01:12:21.160 --> 01:12:27.680]  then you will tend to have rapport with them.
[01:12:27.680 --> 01:12:40.840]  If you give them facts and law to confirm the determinations they came to, then they're
[01:12:40.840 --> 01:12:45.480]  much more likely to accept what you're doing.
[01:12:45.480 --> 01:12:53.560]  What's hard to see from the outside is each step you make adds to the next step that comes.
[01:12:53.560 --> 01:12:59.600]  You take the next step and you just add a little more on top of the one before.
[01:12:59.600 --> 01:13:08.200]  The timeline, you put your story you're going to write on top of the timeline.
[01:13:08.200 --> 01:13:12.800]  You use the timeline, I'm sorry, before you do that, you sort out your timeline.
[01:13:12.800 --> 01:13:20.960]  Once you get it all sorted out, you build your story on top of that and then you take
[01:13:20.960 --> 01:13:26.920]  your story and turn it into an argument in support.
[01:13:26.920 --> 01:13:33.320]  Name the facts, find the law that supports the facts, and as you find the law, sometimes
[01:13:33.320 --> 01:13:37.400]  it will negate one of your facts, so you have to go back and adjust it.
[01:13:37.400 --> 01:13:41.560]  Then once you have that, then you build a set of facts from what you got before it.
[01:13:41.560 --> 01:13:48.640]  Then when you file it and the court rules against you, you take that and you ask for
[01:13:48.640 --> 01:13:53.320]  findings of fact and conclusions of law, they give you that.
[01:13:53.320 --> 01:14:00.000]  Then you take their findings of fact and conclusions of law and your argument in support, you combine
[01:14:00.000 --> 01:14:05.360]  the two together, that takes you to the next step to appeal.
[01:14:05.360 --> 01:14:10.080]  Makes every step much easier, and when you do this to the lawyers on the other side,
[01:14:10.080 --> 01:14:12.560]  it will make them nuts.
[01:14:12.560 --> 01:14:20.400]  So I haven't found a lawyer yet who has the ability to organize his suit well, and we'll
[01:14:20.400 --> 01:14:29.880]  show you some other tricks to make your documents much easier to craft and to read.
[01:14:29.880 --> 01:14:34.800]  The whole point of this is not to win in the end, Joel.
[01:14:34.800 --> 01:14:38.480]  You've probably heard us say you'll never win your case simply because you have the
[01:14:38.480 --> 01:14:41.880]  facts and the law on your side.
[01:14:41.880 --> 01:14:46.480]  You win your case if you have the politics on your side, so what you want to do is cost
[01:14:46.480 --> 01:14:55.840]  the lawyers on the other side as much money as possible till the calculation becomes unsupportable.
[01:14:55.840 --> 01:14:59.680]  This guy's going to cost us more than we can save.
[01:14:59.680 --> 01:15:06.760]  We'd be better off just making a deal and dropping all this and go home and leave him
[01:15:06.760 --> 01:15:07.760]  alone.
[01:15:07.760 --> 01:15:10.280]  Does that make sense, Joel?
[01:15:10.280 --> 01:15:17.120]  Everything you said is exactly what I hoped you would say and what I thought you would
[01:15:17.120 --> 01:15:18.120]  say.
[01:15:18.120 --> 01:15:20.320]  I'm a quick learner.
[01:15:20.320 --> 01:15:21.760]  I already have the timeline.
[01:15:21.760 --> 01:15:26.320]  I already documented everything they've been doing from the get-go.
[01:15:26.320 --> 01:15:32.200]  I even have... I know I can't use it in court, but I recorded all the conversations I had.
[01:15:32.200 --> 01:15:33.880]  I called the collection agency.
[01:15:33.880 --> 01:15:36.880]  I got them to admit to what they did wrong.
[01:15:36.880 --> 01:15:42.520]  I even have the hospital admitting that they did get my email and never seen it, never
[01:15:42.520 --> 01:15:47.780]  responded to it, and went ahead and sent it to collections anyway.
[01:15:47.780 --> 01:15:53.440]  They called me back and said that there's nothing they can do.
[01:15:53.440 --> 01:15:59.640]  I'm just screwed and I just have to deal with the collection agency now.
[01:15:59.640 --> 01:16:00.960]  I've done everything right.
[01:16:00.960 --> 01:16:02.400]  I've documented all of it.
[01:16:02.400 --> 01:16:09.440]  I've let them paint themselves into a corner and take as much rope as they wanted to take.
[01:16:09.440 --> 01:16:15.680]  All I'm trying to figure out now is I have too many things to hit them on, and I don't
[01:16:15.680 --> 01:16:19.640]  know what the best ones are, and I don't want to get greedy.
[01:16:19.640 --> 01:16:20.640]  Get greedy.
[01:16:20.640 --> 01:16:21.640]  Get greedy.
[01:16:21.640 --> 01:16:22.640]  That's the point.
[01:16:22.640 --> 01:16:23.640]  Yeah.
[01:16:23.640 --> 01:16:33.640]  Throw everything you can at them, but you need to make up a story that makes it all
[01:16:33.640 --> 01:16:36.200]  make sense.
[01:16:36.200 --> 01:16:41.400]  Make up a story that fits everything together, and then write your facts and law in a way
[01:16:41.400 --> 01:16:48.800]  that'll cause the reader to create that story in the background, but at the end of the day,
[01:16:48.800 --> 01:16:53.120]  you just want to cost them a lot of money, get them to come to the table, and the collection
[01:16:53.120 --> 01:16:55.560]  agency is a low-hanging fruit.
[01:16:55.560 --> 01:17:01.200]  Hang on, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, we'll be right back.
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[01:20:02.160 --> 01:20:30.880]  Okay, we are back.
[01:20:30.880 --> 01:20:39.240]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, RuleOfLawRadio, and Joel, you're the reason we do this show.
[01:20:39.240 --> 01:20:45.120]  Everything about this show is to bring people to your position.
[01:20:45.120 --> 01:20:49.120]  We get people calling in that are absolutely devastating.
[01:20:49.120 --> 01:20:50.520]  The sky is falling in on them.
[01:20:50.520 --> 01:20:53.040]  They have no idea what to do.
[01:20:53.040 --> 01:20:58.600]  Charles from Georgia before you, he's no chump.
[01:20:58.600 --> 01:21:01.960]  He's been calling in for years.
[01:21:01.960 --> 01:21:06.600]  Georgia was going after him over something and he fought him like a tiger and finally
[01:21:06.600 --> 01:21:09.600]  beat him.
[01:21:09.600 --> 01:21:10.600]  He was a trucker.
[01:21:10.600 --> 01:21:16.960]  They gave him some kind of major traffic ticket and he fought him for several years and finally
[01:21:16.960 --> 01:21:18.920]  beat him.
[01:21:18.920 --> 01:21:19.920]  This is why we do this show.
[01:21:19.920 --> 01:21:28.080]  We want to take the guy that doesn't know anything and give him some underlying tools,
[01:21:28.080 --> 01:21:31.480]  the most basic underlying tools.
[01:21:31.480 --> 01:21:35.440]  What you said, you got jurisdiction here and you went through that.
[01:21:35.440 --> 01:21:40.280]  That tells us a whole lot.
[01:21:40.280 --> 01:21:43.400]  Everything I asked you, you had already done it.
[01:21:43.400 --> 01:21:47.480]  That's what I get from people who've been through jurisdiction here.
[01:21:47.480 --> 01:21:54.920]  If you're out there and you have issues that you don't know how to handle, first thing
[01:21:54.920 --> 01:21:57.520]  get jurisdiction here.
[01:21:57.520 --> 01:22:02.800]  Lawyers go to law school and they teach lawyers how to argue legal issues.
[01:22:02.800 --> 01:22:07.200]  What they don't teach them is how to practice law.
[01:22:07.200 --> 01:22:11.840]  Lawyers don't learn that until they get out in the field.
[01:22:11.840 --> 01:22:18.520]  They don't learn how to file motions with the court, how to get them put on for hearing,
[01:22:18.520 --> 01:22:23.520]  how to deal with this particular judge and what he'll put up with, what he won't put
[01:22:23.520 --> 01:22:26.240]  up with.
[01:22:26.240 --> 01:22:33.520]  There's just a whole mass of information they don't get in law school.
[01:22:33.520 --> 01:22:37.720]  It's all in jurisdictionary.
[01:22:37.720 --> 01:22:40.560]  Jurisdictionary is not the theory of law.
[01:22:40.560 --> 01:22:42.920]  This is how you get it done.
[01:22:42.920 --> 01:22:50.440]  When I get someone that's been through jurisdictionary, we get to have a whole different conversation.
[01:22:50.440 --> 01:22:55.640]  I've spoken to this just recently about someone in Michigan the same way.
[01:22:55.640 --> 01:22:59.280]  I'm sorry, someone in Wisconsin the same way.
[01:22:59.280 --> 01:23:00.280]  He told me what was going on.
[01:23:00.280 --> 01:23:03.600]  I said, well, you need to file a petition for real mandamus.
[01:23:03.600 --> 01:23:04.600]  He said, I did that.
[01:23:04.600 --> 01:23:05.600]  I had another point.
[01:23:05.600 --> 01:23:06.600]  I said, well, you ought to file a habeas corpus.
[01:23:06.600 --> 01:23:07.600]  I did that.
[01:23:07.600 --> 01:23:10.920]  I said, have you been through a jurisdictionary?
[01:23:10.920 --> 01:23:15.680]  Oh, yeah, I've been through a jurisdictionary.
[01:23:15.680 --> 01:23:18.320]  To better understand what we're doing, that's the first thing to do.
[01:23:18.320 --> 01:23:19.320]  It's like 250 bucks.
[01:23:19.320 --> 01:23:26.040]  You can go on either Logos Radio Network or Root of Law Radio Network and you'll find
[01:23:26.040 --> 01:23:28.440]  a link to it.
[01:23:28.440 --> 01:23:33.720]  It is absolutely the best thing you can do.
[01:23:33.720 --> 01:23:42.360]  You go through that and you will have an internal understanding of how this system works.
[01:23:42.360 --> 01:23:45.280]  It doesn't matter what your case is.
[01:23:45.280 --> 01:23:52.800]  Underlying your case, there are structures in the legal system that you will always use.
[01:23:52.800 --> 01:23:57.240]  Once you've got that down, now you've got the hard part.
[01:23:57.240 --> 01:24:02.440]  Then you can go on to the more sophisticated issues like here.
[01:24:02.440 --> 01:24:08.040]  Joel, you'll never win your case simply because you have the law and the facts on your side
[01:24:08.040 --> 01:24:12.200]  to think so is naive.
[01:24:12.200 --> 01:24:17.440]  That really don't make sense to anybody until they've been through the system, see how it
[01:24:17.440 --> 01:24:21.840]  works and kind of understands the structure.
[01:24:21.840 --> 01:24:27.680]  While we do everything we can to win the case, we don't expect to in the end.
[01:24:27.680 --> 01:24:31.360]  That's not how it's done in the real world.
[01:24:31.360 --> 01:24:37.040]  You don't win your case at the U.S. Supreme.
[01:24:37.040 --> 01:24:39.600]  You win your case at the negotiating table.
[01:24:39.600 --> 01:24:44.320]  What Joel's doing now is playing poker.
[01:24:44.320 --> 01:24:47.360]  Joel's laying out his best hand.
[01:24:47.360 --> 01:24:53.440]  Actually, you're still setting up your best hand.
[01:24:53.440 --> 01:24:57.000]  Here we give them opportunities to screw up.
[01:24:57.000 --> 01:25:05.080]  Joel, what are you doing to give them opportunities to screw up besides recording every one of
[01:25:05.080 --> 01:25:06.080]  their conversations?
[01:25:06.080 --> 01:25:08.920]  Oh, and you said you couldn't use that?
[01:25:08.920 --> 01:25:10.480]  Yes, you can.
[01:25:10.480 --> 01:25:11.480]  I can.
[01:25:11.480 --> 01:25:12.480]  Oh, yeah.
[01:25:12.480 --> 01:25:16.240]  This is how you use a recording.
[01:25:16.240 --> 01:25:20.280]  You play it directly, but you can.
[01:25:20.280 --> 01:25:27.640]  Play it into your phone as a message and your phone will convert it to text and then turn
[01:25:27.640 --> 01:25:36.520]  it into a transcript, turn it into an affidavit and sign it before a notary.
[01:25:36.520 --> 01:25:40.160]  I sat in court one day and they're asking me questions about something that happened
[01:25:40.160 --> 01:25:46.880]  ten years earlier and I'm telling them it was about a negotiation between me and someone
[01:25:46.880 --> 01:25:48.600]  I bought a business from.
[01:25:48.600 --> 01:25:55.000]  I'm telling them exactly what he said, but he's dead, so he can't testify to that.
[01:25:55.000 --> 01:25:58.440]  I'm telling them exactly what happened ten years ago.
[01:25:58.440 --> 01:26:03.520]  The lawyer finally got frustrated and said, Mr. Kelton, you must have a very good memory.
[01:26:03.520 --> 01:26:04.520]  Oh, no, no.
[01:26:04.520 --> 01:26:06.520]  I have a horrible memory.
[01:26:06.520 --> 01:26:09.480]  The judge ducked his head, put his head in his hand.
[01:26:09.480 --> 01:26:10.640]  I could see him up there.
[01:26:10.640 --> 01:26:13.680]  I'm on the witness stand shaking his head.
[01:26:13.680 --> 01:26:15.880]  No, no, counselor, stop.
[01:26:15.880 --> 01:26:18.440]  Don't go any further.
[01:26:18.440 --> 01:26:20.280]  The counselor was on a roll.
[01:26:20.280 --> 01:26:24.920]  Well, Mr. Kelton, if you have such a horrible memory, how do you remember that's exactly
[01:26:24.920 --> 01:26:25.920]  what happened?
[01:26:25.920 --> 01:26:29.640]  Oh, well, I took it from the transcript.
[01:26:29.640 --> 01:26:30.640]  What transcript?
[01:26:30.640 --> 01:26:33.680]  Oh, the transcript of the recording I made.
[01:26:33.680 --> 01:26:35.160]  Objection, objection.
[01:26:35.160 --> 01:26:40.400]  No, counselor, you opened the door.
[01:26:40.400 --> 01:26:45.840]  Mr. Kelton gets to walk through it, sucker.
[01:26:45.840 --> 01:26:50.760]  That's how you use your recordings.
[01:26:50.760 --> 01:26:57.320]  They're never going to want to hear that recording, so you turn it into an affidavit and file
[01:26:57.320 --> 01:27:00.320]  it in the record.
[01:27:00.320 --> 01:27:04.760]  Does that make sense?
[01:27:04.760 --> 01:27:06.400]  I've listened to a bunch of...
[01:27:06.400 --> 01:27:08.480]  I've been trying to catch up with you guys.
[01:27:08.480 --> 01:27:09.960]  You guys put so much stuff out there.
[01:27:09.960 --> 01:27:16.040]  I've been listening to all your old stuff, and I'm trying to catch up on everything and
[01:27:16.040 --> 01:27:18.840]  teach myself.
[01:27:18.840 --> 01:27:29.600]  I wasn't aware that I could do that, but now that I know that, they have zero response
[01:27:29.600 --> 01:27:35.320]  to any of this then, because I got them to admit to everything on a recording multiple
[01:27:35.320 --> 01:27:40.640]  times and...
[01:27:40.640 --> 01:27:41.920]  That's great.
[01:27:41.920 --> 01:27:49.880]  You turn each one of those into an affidavit, and they are screwed.
[01:27:49.880 --> 01:27:58.720]  But you have to, in order to introduce the affidavit, you have to establish foundation,
[01:27:58.720 --> 01:28:01.100]  and that's easy enough.
[01:28:01.100 --> 01:28:09.280]  You can testify, on this day, I made a call for this reason and talked to this person,
[01:28:09.280 --> 01:28:17.880]  and this is what was said, and then you see affidavit or attachment A, and you put everything
[01:28:17.880 --> 01:28:21.320]  that was said in that affidavit.
[01:28:21.320 --> 01:28:27.720]  Now you've established foundation for it.
[01:28:27.720 --> 01:28:31.080]  That really wasn't for you, because if you've been through jurisdiction here and all that,
[01:28:31.080 --> 01:28:33.080]  you already know that.
[01:28:33.080 --> 01:28:40.320]  I'm talking to everybody else, but that'll get you everything on the record, and then
[01:28:40.320 --> 01:28:46.840]  every time the lawyer tries to talk to you, Brett, this is Brett's stroke of genius, and
[01:28:46.840 --> 01:28:49.640]  I have to chuckle every time I think of it.
[01:28:49.640 --> 01:28:56.600]  Brett, if you're not represented by counsel, and they are, how do you handle counsel?
[01:28:56.600 --> 01:29:01.480]  Counsel comes to me trying to act like they belong in the middle of it, and I just tell
[01:29:01.480 --> 01:29:03.000]  them, I don't recognize you.
[01:29:03.000 --> 01:29:04.000]  Who are you?
[01:29:04.000 --> 01:29:05.000]  Never mind.
[01:29:05.000 --> 01:29:06.000]  Don't tell me.
[01:29:06.000 --> 01:29:07.000]  I don't care.
[01:29:07.000 --> 01:29:08.000]  Go away.
[01:29:08.000 --> 01:29:09.000]  Shoo.
[01:29:09.000 --> 01:29:13.520]  And they want to do this huffy-puffy that you can't talk to the client.
[01:29:13.520 --> 01:29:16.520]  I've got Mary Krennic in Austin.
[01:29:16.520 --> 01:29:22.080]  She sued a company she worked for, and the lawyer told her that if she tried to talk
[01:29:22.080 --> 01:29:27.280]  to the client again, he would move the judge to issue sanctions against her.
[01:29:27.280 --> 01:29:39.400]  Well, I'm not in a contract, the lawyer's in a contract with the defendant or the opposing
[01:29:39.400 --> 01:29:47.320]  party, and generally both sides have lawyers, and both of them have a contract with their
[01:29:47.320 --> 01:29:52.800]  lawyer, and there's a covenant in the contract wherein they agree not to talk to the other
[01:29:52.800 --> 01:29:53.800]  litigant.
[01:29:53.800 --> 01:30:03.480]  But Mary didn't sign one of those agreements.
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[01:33:31.120 --> 01:33:43.560]  Okay, we were back, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio, and we were having a real
[01:33:43.560 --> 01:33:50.680]  chuckle over the break, talking about how Brett handles lawyers.
[01:33:50.680 --> 01:33:59.720]  Brett, you explained, I mentioned Hugh, but you explained Hugh and why I think that's
[01:33:59.720 --> 01:34:01.640]  so funny.
[01:34:01.640 --> 01:34:07.080]  Yeah, you said that that's just something that's really irreverent.
[01:34:07.080 --> 01:34:15.240]  I don't know why you think that that's a special ability of mine to be irreverent in that way.
[01:34:15.240 --> 01:34:18.480]  I only do that for lawyers that really deserve it.
[01:34:18.480 --> 01:34:23.520]  I don't treat everybody that way, but they have a special place.
[01:34:23.520 --> 01:34:28.720]  They come button in where they don't belong, and they offer their... I tell them, if that's
[01:34:28.720 --> 01:34:33.840]  the client, I hired you to give them your bad legal advice.
[01:34:33.840 --> 01:34:34.840]  Go give it to them.
[01:34:34.840 --> 01:34:49.600]  I don't want it, and it sets them up for responding back to me, I don't want... I tell them,
[01:34:49.600 --> 01:34:50.600]  leave me alone.
[01:34:50.600 --> 01:34:54.440]  Stop bothering me, and they feel the need.
[01:34:54.440 --> 01:34:55.920]  They can't help themselves.
[01:34:55.920 --> 01:35:03.520]  They've got to hit reply, and then they explain to me how important they are, and they've
[01:35:03.520 --> 01:35:10.520]  been hired to represent something, something, blah, blah, and what they don't realize is
[01:35:10.520 --> 01:35:15.920]  that by hitting reply, they just stepped in it, because I told them to stop bothering
[01:35:15.920 --> 01:35:16.920]  me.
[01:35:16.920 --> 01:35:17.920]  I told them, leave me alone.
[01:35:17.920 --> 01:35:25.040]  I don't want to hear from you, and now by contacting me again, they're actually committing
[01:35:25.040 --> 01:35:28.280]  a crime of harassment.
[01:35:28.280 --> 01:35:36.040]  That's Texas Penal Code 4207, and they're harassing, they're annoying, irritating me,
[01:35:36.040 --> 01:35:39.400]  and so I'll tell them, hey, you just made my phone ring again for no good reason.
[01:35:39.400 --> 01:35:40.400]  You're just annoying me.
[01:35:40.400 --> 01:35:43.680]  I told you, leave me alone.
[01:35:43.680 --> 01:35:46.440]  They'll find out about it from the criminal complaint.
[01:35:46.440 --> 01:35:53.800]  Okay, Joel, did that give you any good ideas?
[01:35:53.800 --> 01:35:57.520]  It gave me more good ideas, but hey, like I said, I'm a quick learner.
[01:35:57.520 --> 01:36:03.960]  I listen to everything you guys do and use my imagination, and I want to apologize.
[01:36:03.960 --> 01:36:05.960]  Did I just run you off the cliff?
[01:36:05.960 --> 01:36:14.840]  Yes, you did, and we blamed you for it, too, but Debra doesn't buy that story.
[01:36:14.840 --> 01:36:17.760]  She always blames me.
[01:36:17.760 --> 01:36:21.640]  I take full credit.
[01:36:21.640 --> 01:36:24.400]  That's because you hadn't had Debra after you yet.
[01:36:24.400 --> 01:36:25.400]  Yeah.
[01:36:25.400 --> 01:36:28.720]  I don't want to let other people on.
[01:36:28.720 --> 01:36:33.640]  Can I just ask you a couple more things, and then I'll get off here?
[01:36:33.640 --> 01:36:34.640]  Yeah.
[01:36:34.640 --> 01:36:35.640]  Okay.
[01:36:35.640 --> 01:36:39.560]  Well, first of all, I can't say thanks enough.
[01:36:39.560 --> 01:36:44.600]  Any new listeners listening to this, these guys are no joke.
[01:36:44.600 --> 01:36:48.640]  I'm on you guys' Telegram channels, too.
[01:36:48.640 --> 01:36:53.120]  If I didn't find you guys, I wouldn't know how to handle any of this stuff.
[01:36:53.120 --> 01:36:56.280]  I wouldn't even know about it.
[01:36:56.280 --> 01:37:02.560]  It's really life-changing, and then aside from that, I haven't even told you all the
[01:37:02.560 --> 01:37:07.000]  details of this deal I'm setting up.
[01:37:07.000 --> 01:37:12.760]  You guys don't have enough hours on your show for me to explain all the intricacies of how
[01:37:12.760 --> 01:37:14.440]  many times they screwed themselves.
[01:37:14.440 --> 01:37:19.200]  If I can say that, I'm sorry if I can't.
[01:37:19.200 --> 01:37:30.440]  You can say screw, or if you're uncomfortable with that, you could say intercourse themselves.
[01:37:30.440 --> 01:37:34.440]  I was trying to be the good guy, the nice guy.
[01:37:34.440 --> 01:37:37.760]  I told them that they were breaking the law, and gave them an out.
[01:37:37.760 --> 01:37:41.680]  They said, no, we're going to keep breaking the law, and we don't care.
[01:37:41.680 --> 01:37:45.040]  Well, shame on you.
[01:37:45.040 --> 01:37:49.280]  Never give fair warning.
[01:37:49.280 --> 01:37:52.080]  Bushwack is so much better.
[01:37:52.080 --> 01:37:53.880]  All right.
[01:37:53.880 --> 01:38:01.960]  So I've got a couple other things that we don't have time for, if you would let me.
[01:38:01.960 --> 01:38:03.440]  Can you call back tomorrow night?
[01:38:03.440 --> 01:38:05.240]  We've got four hours.
[01:38:05.240 --> 01:38:06.240]  I can.
[01:38:06.240 --> 01:38:07.240]  Good.
[01:38:07.240 --> 01:38:08.240]  Let's do that.
[01:38:08.240 --> 01:38:10.840]  I've got a caller who's been waiting for the beginning of the show.
[01:38:10.840 --> 01:38:17.280]  We skipped over him to go to you because you were a first-time caller, and he's in Texas,
[01:38:17.280 --> 01:38:21.640]  so he'll know how to find me and make me pay.
[01:38:21.640 --> 01:38:22.640]  I don't want that to happen to you.
[01:38:22.640 --> 01:38:25.640]  I need you to stick around a little longer.
[01:38:25.640 --> 01:38:26.640]  Okay.
[01:38:26.640 --> 01:38:28.640]  So call us back tomorrow night.
[01:38:28.640 --> 01:38:30.400]  I will do.
[01:38:30.400 --> 01:38:31.400]  Thank you very much.
[01:38:31.400 --> 01:38:32.400]  Thanks, Joel.
[01:38:32.400 --> 01:38:33.400]  All right.
[01:38:33.400 --> 01:38:34.400]  Thanks, guys.
[01:38:34.400 --> 01:38:35.400]  Okay.
[01:38:35.400 --> 01:38:36.400]  That was a good caller.
[01:38:36.400 --> 01:38:37.400]  Hello, Richard.
[01:38:37.400 --> 01:38:38.400]  Howdy.
[01:38:38.400 --> 01:38:41.080]  Totally rude, that's what you are.
[01:38:41.080 --> 01:38:43.080]  Wait, say that again?
[01:38:43.080 --> 01:38:44.080]  Hello.
[01:38:44.080 --> 01:38:45.080]  I said, totally rude.
[01:38:45.080 --> 01:38:46.080]  Kipping off me.
[01:38:46.080 --> 01:38:47.080]  Yeah, I know.
[01:38:47.080 --> 01:38:48.080]  That's the kind of guy...
[01:38:48.080 --> 01:38:49.080]  Brett told me to do it.
[01:38:49.080 --> 01:38:50.080]  Right.
[01:38:50.080 --> 01:38:51.080]  I'll get to Brett.
[01:38:51.080 --> 01:39:05.800]  Hey, I contacted the county sheriff's office or the clerk's office about the chief deputy
[01:39:05.800 --> 01:39:08.800]  being a...
[01:39:08.800 --> 01:39:10.920]  Oh, what the hell is it?
[01:39:10.920 --> 01:39:14.040]  I don't know if you can say that word on the air.
[01:39:14.040 --> 01:39:16.400]  A traffic control officer.
[01:39:16.400 --> 01:39:18.680]  A traffic control officer.
[01:39:18.680 --> 01:39:22.680]  Do you remember talking to me about it?
[01:39:22.680 --> 01:39:23.680]  701.001.
[01:39:23.680 --> 01:39:30.320]  Yes, I do remember talking to you about it.
[01:39:30.320 --> 01:39:36.840]  Did you check with the county commissioner's court to see if they had appointed him as
[01:39:36.840 --> 01:39:38.640]  a county control officer?
[01:39:38.640 --> 01:39:42.320]  I did, and they have not.
[01:39:42.320 --> 01:39:43.800]  Boom.
[01:39:43.800 --> 01:39:45.400]  Yeah.
[01:39:45.400 --> 01:39:51.400]  So, have you charged him with first degree felony aggravated assault?
[01:39:51.400 --> 01:39:52.880]  Yes, sir.
[01:39:52.880 --> 01:39:56.080]  Oh, you're a good man.
[01:39:56.080 --> 01:40:02.200]  Well, you know, somebody's got to stand up and stop all this crap.
[01:40:02.200 --> 01:40:09.000]  They're not doing anything respectable, and it's time we fix it.
[01:40:09.000 --> 01:40:11.240]  That is our job.
[01:40:11.240 --> 01:40:16.960]  We are a citizen and a republic, and pretty much we're the only ones who can do that.
[01:40:16.960 --> 01:40:19.200]  Yes, sir.
[01:40:19.200 --> 01:40:24.760]  These guys are stuck inside a system they didn't create, and they can't change.
[01:40:24.760 --> 01:40:30.960]  Unless we give them plausible deniability, I'm in the process of helping a woman prepare
[01:40:30.960 --> 01:40:42.380]  depraved heart murder charges against a doctor for not allowing them to give her mother medicines
[01:40:42.380 --> 01:40:44.920]  that might have saved her.
[01:40:44.920 --> 01:40:48.200]  How many doctors do you think we're going to have to put before a grand jury before
[01:40:48.200 --> 01:40:53.480]  the doctors can now take control of their own practice and take it away from the insurance
[01:40:53.480 --> 01:40:55.040]  companies?
[01:40:55.040 --> 01:40:56.440]  Thousands.
[01:40:56.440 --> 01:41:00.280]  Well, I bet they'd only take one.
[01:41:00.280 --> 01:41:07.440]  Well, that might be true, and I'm fixing to go to the local hospital here if I can ever
[01:41:07.440 --> 01:41:13.960]  get enough time, and I want to take the CEO of the hospital corporation that's here,
[01:41:13.960 --> 01:41:20.960]  only hospital in town, and they've got the mask mandate on, and I'm having some heart
[01:41:20.960 --> 01:41:26.160]  pains, and I'm not going to go in there if they're not going to let me go without a mask.
[01:41:26.160 --> 01:41:30.360]  Are you familiar with our telegram site on that issue?
[01:41:30.360 --> 01:41:31.360]  No, I'm not.
[01:41:31.360 --> 01:41:37.040]  Well, I have seen it, but I have a really hard time navigating telegram.
[01:41:37.040 --> 01:41:38.240]  I don't know why.
[01:41:38.240 --> 01:41:40.480]  I don't know how to pull you all up.
[01:41:40.480 --> 01:41:42.840]  I just stumbled across you one time.
[01:41:42.840 --> 01:41:51.000]  Okay, just to go out into the street, flag down the first 10-year-olds you see, and have
[01:41:51.000 --> 01:41:54.040]  him explain to you this is the 21st century.
[01:41:54.040 --> 01:41:57.440]  That's what I had to do.
[01:41:57.440 --> 01:42:00.280]  I know.
[01:42:00.280 --> 01:42:07.320]  I've got so much on my mind, and at my age, it doesn't stay there but about 15 minutes,
[01:42:07.320 --> 01:42:10.600]  and then I have to start over.
[01:42:10.600 --> 01:42:15.200]  I've got a lot on my mind, and it's an empty lot.
[01:42:15.200 --> 01:42:21.840]  Okay, if you can get to it, we have 1,300 people on the mask site.
[01:42:21.840 --> 01:42:22.840]  Brett?
[01:42:22.840 --> 01:42:23.840]  Yeah, I don't know.
[01:42:23.840 --> 01:42:24.840]  I haven't looked recently.
[01:42:24.840 --> 01:42:33.120]  I think last time I looked, it was 1,366 people, and we get lots of good stuff, everything
[01:42:33.120 --> 01:42:38.520]  you want to know you can find on there, and you find a lot of people there to help you.
[01:42:38.520 --> 01:42:44.880]  What I've found is when I go to Telegram, and I put something in, and I don't see any
[01:42:44.880 --> 01:42:46.880]  place to search.
[01:42:46.880 --> 01:42:53.480]  Oh, you'll have to look for the little magnifying glass up in the corner.
[01:42:53.480 --> 01:42:58.080]  If you're on a phone that doesn't have enough pixels on the viewport width, then you'll
[01:42:58.080 --> 01:43:06.520]  have to click on the title up at the very top where it says Mask Law Society, and then
[01:43:06.520 --> 01:43:14.920]  you'll get four little icons, and one of them is going to be that magnifying glass.
[01:43:14.920 --> 01:43:19.240]  Send me an email, and I will send you a link to it.
[01:43:19.240 --> 01:43:22.520]  Okay, I'll do that.
[01:43:22.520 --> 01:43:27.160]  Well, Richard, there's one other thing I wanted to bring up before we get too far away from
[01:43:27.160 --> 01:43:29.720]  this traffic control officer.
[01:43:29.720 --> 01:43:31.720]  Right.
[01:43:31.720 --> 01:43:42.440]  It looks to me like you could also charge him with the felony of Texas Penal Code 37.11,
[01:43:42.440 --> 01:43:45.360]  impersonating a public servant.
[01:43:45.360 --> 01:43:51.120]  If he's acting like a traffic control officer, but the commissioner court said he's not a
[01:43:51.120 --> 01:43:55.360]  traffic control officer, he's got a problem.
[01:43:55.360 --> 01:43:58.360]  We can talk some more about that after we come back from our sponsors, okay?
[01:43:58.360 --> 01:43:59.360]  We'll be right back.
[01:43:59.360 --> 01:44:00.360]  Okay.
[01:44:00.360 --> 01:44:03.360]  Let's do it, Mr. Promotor.
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[01:44:06.460 --> 01:44:09.560]  Cookies? Yucky? No, no bad cookies.
[01:44:09.560 --> 01:44:12.660]  You can't even eat these cookies. These are cyber cookies.
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[01:44:23.560 --> 01:44:26.960]  I'm going to throw away these yucky cookies in the trash.
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[01:46:23.260 --> 01:46:27.260]  Some things in this world I will never understand.
[01:46:27.260 --> 01:46:31.260]  Some things I realize foolish.
[01:46:31.260 --> 01:46:35.260]  Somebody's gonna police that policeman.
[01:46:35.260 --> 01:46:39.260]  Somebody's gonna police the bully.
[01:46:39.260 --> 01:46:44.260]  There's always a room out the top of the hill.
[01:46:44.260 --> 01:46:49.260]  I hear through the grapevine and it's lonely left too.
[01:46:49.260 --> 01:46:54.260]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio.
[01:46:54.260 --> 01:47:05.260]  On this Thursday, the 10th day of February, 2022, and we're talking to Richard in Texas.
[01:47:05.260 --> 01:47:07.260]  Okay, go ahead, Richard.
[01:47:07.260 --> 01:47:16.260]  Okay. I called the county court's office and asked them for the name of the...
[01:47:16.260 --> 01:47:24.260]  Oh, crap. The foreman is a grand jury and they wouldn't give it to me.
[01:47:24.260 --> 01:47:27.260]  Aren't they supposed to share that?
[01:47:27.260 --> 01:47:33.260]  Yes, that is open. So that should get a criminal complaint.
[01:47:33.260 --> 01:47:35.260]  Okay.
[01:47:35.260 --> 01:47:43.260]  You can get the name of the foreman by going down and looking at some current indictments.
[01:47:43.260 --> 01:47:45.260]  Okay.
[01:47:45.260 --> 01:47:49.260]  Actually, you should be able to get the entire jury pool.
[01:47:49.260 --> 01:47:52.260]  They're not secret.
[01:47:52.260 --> 01:47:59.260]  So send her an information request for names of the entire jury pool.
[01:47:59.260 --> 01:48:01.260]  Okay.
[01:48:01.260 --> 01:48:07.260]  Do you know how often they impanel a grand jury in your jurisdiction?
[01:48:07.260 --> 01:48:11.260]  I think it's once every six months.
[01:48:11.260 --> 01:48:32.260]  Well, before they impanel next time, you want to issue or put in a notice to the district judge who is going to impanel the grand jury that you intend to challenge the grand jury pool.
[01:48:32.260 --> 01:48:42.260]  It used to be in Chapter 19, I believe, of the Code of Criminal Procedure, but do a search for Texas challenged grand jury pool.
[01:48:42.260 --> 01:48:46.260]  They renumbered all those, so I don't remember which one it is.
[01:48:46.260 --> 01:48:54.260]  But you have a right. You can challenge the grand jury pool before it's impaneled and not thereafter.
[01:48:54.260 --> 01:48:55.260]  Right.
[01:48:55.260 --> 01:49:06.260]  I did that once, and the district judge got real excited and had a bailiff put his hand on me, told the bailiff to arrest me, and the bailiff put his hand on my arm.
[01:49:06.260 --> 01:49:10.260]  And I looked down and said, I see you're wearing a pistol there, Sergeant Simmons.
[01:49:10.260 --> 01:49:11.260]  He said, yes, I am.
[01:49:11.260 --> 01:49:13.260]  I said, tell me, is that pistol loaded?
[01:49:13.260 --> 01:49:14.260]  He said, yes, it is.
[01:49:14.260 --> 01:49:21.260]  And the judge got at what I was doing and told him, that's okay, Mr. Simmons, you can stand down.
[01:49:21.260 --> 01:49:23.260]  Sorry, Bubba, too late.
[01:49:23.260 --> 01:49:25.260]  He doesn't touch me.
[01:49:25.260 --> 01:49:29.260]  I charged the judge with first degree felony aggravated assault.
[01:49:29.260 --> 01:49:39.260]  You can challenge the grand jury pool, and they have to give you names of all of them, and you can sit in there while they impanel the grand jury.
[01:49:39.260 --> 01:49:41.260]  Their names are not secret.
[01:49:41.260 --> 01:49:43.260]  Okay.
[01:49:43.260 --> 01:49:47.260]  Well, can I testify to the grand jury?
[01:49:47.260 --> 01:49:48.260]  Can I request that?
[01:49:48.260 --> 01:49:54.260]  Yes, but you can only do that if they allow you to.
[01:49:54.260 --> 01:50:01.260]  Now, you can talk to the grand jury when you challenge them.
[01:50:01.260 --> 01:50:06.260]  This is our complaints I'll be bringing before the grand jury.
[01:50:06.260 --> 01:50:12.260]  Is there any one of you who would be unable to do whatever you want them to do?
[01:50:12.260 --> 01:50:15.260]  You can do that.
[01:50:15.260 --> 01:50:19.260]  You can use, that's what I intended to do.
[01:50:19.260 --> 01:50:25.260]  I was going to tell them that I will be filing criminal charges against this judge here.
[01:50:25.260 --> 01:50:30.260]  And I know you look at this judge and you think he's important and all that, blah, blah, blah.
[01:50:30.260 --> 01:50:42.260]  If I give you reason to believe that he is sufficient evidence to give you cause to believe he's committed a crime, would you be able to indict him?
[01:50:42.260 --> 01:50:45.260]  Would you be willing to indict him?
[01:50:45.260 --> 01:50:47.260]  You can ask them that.
[01:50:47.260 --> 01:50:49.260]  Okay.
[01:50:49.260 --> 01:50:56.260]  How do you get it arranged so you can appear before the grand jury to challenge the pool?
[01:50:56.260 --> 01:50:58.260]  You give notice to the judge.
[01:50:58.260 --> 01:51:02.260]  I gave notice to the prosecutor and the judge, just written notice.
[01:51:02.260 --> 01:51:06.260]  You can do it with an email.
[01:51:06.260 --> 01:51:10.260]  And when they don't let you, then you go after them criminally.
[01:51:10.260 --> 01:51:15.260]  Then you move to have the grand jury disbanded.
[01:51:15.260 --> 01:51:18.260]  That's what I did to the judge when he came off the bench.
[01:51:18.260 --> 01:51:20.260]  He didn't give me opportunity to challenge him.
[01:51:20.260 --> 01:51:24.260]  He just impaneled the grand jury and he came off the bench and says,
[01:51:24.260 --> 01:51:36.260]  Judge, you need to bring that pool back in here, disband the grand jury, and give me my opportunity to challenge the grand jury pool.
[01:51:36.260 --> 01:51:38.260]  Okay.
[01:51:38.260 --> 01:51:46.260]  That gives you the chance to get in front of them so that when they get complaints from you,
[01:51:46.260 --> 01:51:50.260]  then they've looked at you and they know you're a human being.
[01:51:50.260 --> 01:51:52.260]  Right.
[01:51:52.260 --> 01:51:58.260]  And the judge and prosecutor are not going to like that one little bit, but good.
[01:51:58.260 --> 01:52:04.260]  Well, I've got all kinds of stuff to go to the grand jury with.
[01:52:04.260 --> 01:52:10.260]  Is it on the court by a justice of the peace and the county judge?
[01:52:10.260 --> 01:52:12.260]  Wait, wait, wait, wait.
[01:52:12.260 --> 01:52:13.260]  One other thing.
[01:52:13.260 --> 01:52:25.260]  When the grand jury brings in its true bills, do they do that in open court?
[01:52:25.260 --> 01:52:26.260]  I don't know.
[01:52:26.260 --> 01:52:27.260]  Okay.
[01:52:27.260 --> 01:52:28.260]  Here's what the code says.
[01:52:28.260 --> 01:52:42.260]  After the grand jury has deliberated and voted, the foreman along with a quorum of the grand jury
[01:52:42.260 --> 01:52:51.260]  shall come before the clerk or the court and give notice of the true bills.
[01:52:51.260 --> 01:52:54.260]  In Johnson County, they gave notice to the court.
[01:52:54.260 --> 01:52:58.260]  They convened a hearing.
[01:52:58.260 --> 01:53:02.260]  And I went and sat in the room when they convened a hearing.
[01:53:02.260 --> 01:53:09.260]  And everybody's looking at me wondering, who the heck is that except the prosecutor and assistant prosecutor?
[01:53:09.260 --> 01:53:12.260]  They knew exactly why I was there, and they were not happy.
[01:53:12.260 --> 01:53:14.260]  But what do you think you do about it?
[01:53:14.260 --> 01:53:20.260]  They read in all of the indictment, the true bills, and the judge said,
[01:53:20.260 --> 01:53:23.260]  does the grand jury have any further business?
[01:53:23.260 --> 01:53:25.260]  And the foreman said, no, Your Honor, we do not.
[01:53:25.260 --> 01:53:30.260]  And I stood up in the courtroom and said, yes, you do.
[01:53:30.260 --> 01:53:33.260]  And the judge said, and who are you?
[01:53:33.260 --> 01:53:35.260]  My name's Randy Kelton.
[01:53:35.260 --> 01:53:39.260]  What business do you have with this grand jury?
[01:53:39.260 --> 01:53:42.260]  I said, well, Judge, I've got some criminal complaints.
[01:53:42.260 --> 01:53:46.260]  I could have told him I have business with the grand jury, and it's none of yours.
[01:53:46.260 --> 01:53:48.260]  But I had plans for it.
[01:53:48.260 --> 01:53:51.260]  I said, well, I have criminal complaints against some public officials.
[01:53:51.260 --> 01:53:53.260]  And what officials are those?
[01:53:53.260 --> 01:53:58.260]  And the prosecutor and assistant prosecutor is sitting there squirming.
[01:53:58.260 --> 01:54:00.260]  I said, well, there's a district attorney here.
[01:54:00.260 --> 01:54:02.260]  And I pointed down at his head.
[01:54:02.260 --> 01:54:09.260]  And there's an assistant district attorney, and I pointed at the judge, and you, Judge.
[01:54:09.260 --> 01:54:12.260]  And he looked like I hit him with a brick.
[01:54:12.260 --> 01:54:17.260]  He's got this look that said, you just bushwhacked me in front of my own grand jury.
[01:54:17.260 --> 01:54:19.260]  I said, yeah, I did.
[01:54:19.260 --> 01:54:24.260]  And that's what got me to be able to present the district attorney
[01:54:24.260 --> 01:54:28.260]  and the assistant district attorney to the grand jury.
[01:54:28.260 --> 01:54:31.260]  They called me in to present.
[01:54:31.260 --> 01:54:34.260]  That was a hoax.
[01:54:34.260 --> 01:54:36.260]  Look at your county.
[01:54:36.260 --> 01:54:39.260]  Figure out how they do it.
[01:54:39.260 --> 01:54:41.260]  Okay.
[01:54:41.260 --> 01:54:45.260]  How do you file a criminal complaint to the grand jury?
[01:54:45.260 --> 01:54:50.260]  Do you just use an affidavit, quote the laws and what they did?
[01:54:50.260 --> 01:54:54.260]  You use the standard Texas criminal complaint form,
[01:54:54.260 --> 01:55:01.260]  and you send it to the grand jury at the address of the district attorney.
[01:55:01.260 --> 01:55:07.260]  And you put a cover letter on it and ask the foreman to initial this cover letter,
[01:55:07.260 --> 01:55:13.260]  return it in the stamp self-addressed envelope so that you'll know he actually received it
[01:55:13.260 --> 01:55:15.260]  because we have trouble with prosecuting attorneys
[01:55:15.260 --> 01:55:18.260]  secreting criminal complaints from grand juries.
[01:55:18.260 --> 01:55:21.260]  Well, you're not going to get that letter back.
[01:55:21.260 --> 01:55:28.260]  And when you don't, after, say, a week or you find out when the grand jury next meets
[01:55:28.260 --> 01:55:32.260]  and after they meet, if you don't get that letter back,
[01:55:32.260 --> 01:55:40.260]  then you call the postal inspectors first because obviously the grand jury didn't get your letter,
[01:55:40.260 --> 01:55:43.260]  so you want to collect the insurance on it,
[01:55:43.260 --> 01:55:47.260]  and you file criminal charges against the district attorney
[01:55:47.260 --> 01:55:54.260]  accusing him of shielding, secreting public documents from the grand jury.
[01:55:54.260 --> 01:55:57.260]  And you do the same thing you did the first time, and when they don't get it,
[01:55:57.260 --> 01:56:01.260]  now you come back and accuse him of secreting criminal complaints
[01:56:01.260 --> 01:56:03.260]  against himself from the grand jury.
[01:56:03.260 --> 01:56:05.260]  It just keeps getting uglier.
[01:56:05.260 --> 01:56:12.260]  Then you file a criminal complaint with every district judge in the district, in the jurisdiction,
[01:56:12.260 --> 01:56:18.260]  and order them to issue a warrant under 15.09 Texas Code of Criminal Procedure.
[01:56:18.260 --> 01:56:24.260]  That one says that when a magistrate is forwarded a complaint,
[01:56:24.260 --> 01:56:30.260]  the magistrate shall issue a warrant forthwith.
[01:56:30.260 --> 01:56:35.260]  So the judge is commanded to issue a warrant for the arrest of the prosecutor.
[01:56:35.260 --> 01:56:40.260]  And when he doesn't, you file criminal charges against the district judge.
[01:56:40.260 --> 01:56:42.260]  Okay.
[01:56:42.260 --> 01:56:47.260]  Look up 15.09. It is a gem.
[01:56:47.260 --> 01:56:48.260]  Okay.
[01:56:48.260 --> 01:56:54.260]  Isn't that also, didn't the district attorney, by not giving it to the grand jurors,
[01:56:54.260 --> 01:57:00.260]  isn't that also a federal crime of theft or receipt of a stolen mail?
[01:57:00.260 --> 01:57:02.260]  No, not exactly.
[01:57:02.260 --> 01:57:04.260]  Oh, yeah, that's a...
[01:57:04.260 --> 01:57:06.260]  Tampering with the mail.
[01:57:06.260 --> 01:57:10.260]  Tampering with the mail, yes.
[01:57:10.260 --> 01:57:14.260]  So if you want to go there, that would just file mail.
[01:57:14.260 --> 01:57:19.260]  If you filed in with the Feds, you filed with a special agent in charge of the local FBI,
[01:57:19.260 --> 01:57:24.260]  because that's the only agent's name you can get and hold responsible.
[01:57:24.260 --> 01:57:27.260]  And you do the cover letter the same way.
[01:57:27.260 --> 01:57:30.260]  And he won't give it to the U.S. attorney,
[01:57:30.260 --> 01:57:35.260]  so you file against him with the grand jury,
[01:57:35.260 --> 01:57:39.260]  and you send that to the U.S. attorney, to his office.
[01:57:39.260 --> 01:57:42.260]  State and federal, they do the same thing.
[01:57:42.260 --> 01:57:45.260]  The prosecutors get the complaints, and they secret them from the grand jury.
[01:57:45.260 --> 01:57:50.260]  So you work the U.S. attorney over the same way.
[01:57:50.260 --> 01:57:53.260]  Okay.
[01:57:53.260 --> 01:57:59.260]  Because I contact you some other time where we can talk by ourselves.
[01:57:59.260 --> 01:58:01.260]  Yes, email me.
[01:58:01.260 --> 01:58:07.260]  I'm remembering and writing all of this down, and it's going to go away by tomorrow.
[01:58:07.260 --> 01:58:09.260]  Yeah, email me.
[01:58:09.260 --> 01:58:10.260]  Record it.
[01:58:10.260 --> 01:58:12.260]  Okay.
[01:58:12.260 --> 01:58:15.260]  Email me, and we'll talk off the air.
[01:58:15.260 --> 01:58:19.260]  Okay, we are out of time.
[01:58:19.260 --> 01:58:21.260]  Thank you, Richard.
[01:58:21.260 --> 01:58:24.260]  You've been a good caller for quite a while.
[01:58:24.260 --> 01:58:29.260]  Tomorrow night, we'll do our four-hour info marathon.
[01:58:29.260 --> 01:58:34.260]  So if you have a question or comment you didn't get it on tonight,
[01:58:34.260 --> 01:58:36.260]  tune in tomorrow.
[01:58:36.260 --> 01:58:38.260]  We'll be taking calls all night.
[01:58:38.260 --> 01:58:40.260]  This is Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain.
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