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[00:00.000 --> 00:06.600]  The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution that guarantee
[00:06.600 --> 00:09.760]  the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[00:09.760 --> 00:11.240]  Our liberty depends on it.
[00:11.240 --> 00:15.180]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember
[00:15.180 --> 00:17.280]  your First Amendment rights.
[00:17.280 --> 00:18.880]  Privacy is under attack.
[00:18.880 --> 00:22.480]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[00:22.480 --> 00:27.240]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[00:27.240 --> 00:32.320]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
[00:32.320 --> 00:35.000]  Privacy, it's worth hanging on to.
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[00:45.040 --> 00:48.120]  Spar, it's what fighters do.
[00:48.120 --> 00:51.080]  It's also how I remember the five guarantees of the First Amendment.
[00:51.080 --> 00:54.800]  If you plan to take away my rights, I'm going to spar with you.
[00:54.800 --> 01:01.920]  Spar with an extra P, S for speech, P for press, another P for petition, A for assembly,
[01:01.920 --> 01:02.920]  and R for religion.
[01:02.920 --> 01:07.320]  Most Americans are familiar with the First Amendment guarantees of free speech, press,
[01:07.320 --> 01:11.200]  assembly, and religion, but petition for redress is another matter.
[01:11.200 --> 01:14.920]  We have the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
[01:14.920 --> 01:18.440]  It means that if we're unhappy with what's going on in our government, we can spell out
[01:18.440 --> 01:21.120]  the reasons without fear of being thrown into jail.
[01:21.120 --> 01:31.440]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, more news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[01:31.440 --> 01:35.120]  The Bill of Rights contains the first 10 amendments of our Constitution.
[01:35.120 --> 01:38.560]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[01:38.560 --> 01:40.040]  Our liberty depends on it.
[01:40.040 --> 01:43.940]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember
[01:43.940 --> 01:47.080]  one of your constitutional rights.
[01:47.080 --> 01:48.680]  Privacy is under attack.
[01:48.680 --> 01:52.280]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[01:52.280 --> 01:57.040]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[01:57.040 --> 02:02.200]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
[02:02.200 --> 02:04.800]  Privacy, it's worth hanging on to.
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[02:16.240 --> 02:20.560]  When I think of the Second Amendment, I visualize myself wrapping my two arms around the Bill
[02:20.560 --> 02:22.640]  of Rights in a big old bear hug.
[02:22.640 --> 02:27.120]  It's how I remember that the Second Amendment guarantees us the right to bear arms, arms
[02:27.120 --> 02:31.000]  that embrace our freedoms and won't let anyone take them away without a fight.
[02:31.000 --> 02:32.000]  Get it?
[02:32.000 --> 02:34.280]  Two arms, bear hug, bear arms?
[02:34.280 --> 02:37.880]  The late Senator Hubert Humphrey captioned the spirit of the Second Amendment so well
[02:37.880 --> 02:43.640]  when he said, the right of the citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary
[02:43.640 --> 02:48.200]  conduct, one more safeguard against the tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which
[02:48.200 --> 02:50.960]  historically has proved to always be possible.
[02:50.960 --> 02:52.800]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht.
[02:52.800 --> 03:16.360]  More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[03:22.800 --> 03:46.160]  the right of the citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary conduct,
[03:46.160 --> 04:04.000]  one more safeguard against the tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which
[04:04.000 --> 04:23.240]  now appears remote in America, but which now appears remote in America, but which now
[04:23.240 --> 04:41.560]  appears remote in America, but which now appears remote in America, but which now appears
[04:41.560 --> 05:05.040]  remote in America, but which now appears remote in America, but which now appears remote
[05:05.040 --> 05:21.360]  in America, but which now appears remote in America, but which now appears remote in
[05:21.360 --> 05:31.160]  America, but which now appears remote in America, but which now appears remote in America, but
[05:31.160 --> 05:40.160]  year and a year and a half with COVID and the election and all this depression and
[05:41.440 --> 05:47.920]  apparent corruption has, has been a struggle, but I see things changing.
[05:49.640 --> 05:55.360]  And you know, you know, I've been researching these kinds of things for a long time and
[05:55.360 --> 06:01.520]  politics tends to move in cycles, about a 50 year cycle.
[06:02.480 --> 06:09.480]  We are on a 70 year cycle at the moment, but it's like a pendulum
[06:09.480 --> 06:11.440]  that swings back and forth.
[06:12.960 --> 06:21.720]  The pendulum swung last year and a half to now to the liberal side.
[06:21.720 --> 06:26.640]  And I see the pendulum swinging back to the conservative side.
[06:28.080 --> 06:34.480]  So for the last year and a half, I can't speak for Brett, but for me,
[06:34.800 --> 06:37.240]  it has been stressful.
[06:39.000 --> 06:44.120]  I see the country moving in a direction that is disturbing.
[06:45.560 --> 06:50.240]  I have seen for this last year and a half or so, but now I see
[06:50.240 --> 06:51.840]  the pendulum moving back.
[06:53.600 --> 07:07.000]  If ever there was a time for those of us who tend to be conservative, who tend to
[07:07.000 --> 07:14.120]  believe in what the constitution actually says and the right of things in the rule of law.
[07:15.160 --> 07:17.720]  The pendulum is swinging back in our direction.
[07:17.720 --> 07:24.800]  And it's time for us all to stand up and help give that pendulum a little shove.
[07:25.520 --> 07:27.920]  I'm in the process of doing that.
[07:28.880 --> 07:33.640]  I am going after the Travis County district attorney.
[07:34.160 --> 07:39.640]  Travis County, for those of you who are in other states, in Texas, Travis
[07:39.640 --> 07:41.360]  County is the seat of government.
[07:41.360 --> 07:44.800]  And we have Travis County, who is the seat of government.
[07:44.800 --> 07:53.320]  And we have San Antonio, which is the eighth largest municipality in the nation.
[07:55.040 --> 07:58.760]  We have Houston, we have Dallas and Fort Worth.
[07:59.800 --> 08:05.720]  Houston's about eight million, Dallas and Fort Worth, about six million.
[08:05.720 --> 08:10.280]  San Antonio, I think they were eight or nine million, they're actually bigger than Houston.
[08:11.040 --> 08:33.040]  We have these few areas that are conservative and the political pendulum is
[08:33.040 --> 08:35.680]  swinging back in their direction.
[08:35.960 --> 08:41.560]  Texas, I have the opinion that Texas, of all the states, is the most conservative
[08:42.360 --> 08:45.280]  and the most stable, the most consistent.
[08:46.840 --> 08:53.200]  I think Florida is probably next and Illinois, probably third.
[08:54.160 --> 08:56.880]  But first is Texas, 29 million people.
[08:56.880 --> 09:05.800]  We are, you know, I've lived in Illinois, I've lived in Florida, before I came to Texas,
[09:05.800 --> 09:10.920]  I spent eight years looking for the best place in the country to live and I didn't care
[09:10.920 --> 09:13.560]  about the economy, I didn't care about climate.
[09:14.680 --> 09:21.800]  I wanted to find the place where the best people in the country were to live with.
[09:21.800 --> 09:23.160]  And everybody said Texas.
[09:23.160 --> 09:31.320]  I came to Texas and I believe they were right, and it is my opinion that Texas is poised
[09:32.280 --> 09:36.520]  to be the harbinger of things to come.
[09:36.800 --> 09:41.760]  California used to be, but they have gone so far to the left
[09:41.760 --> 09:45.000]  that they've actually, absolutely gone insane.
[09:45.000 --> 09:52.120]  And Texas has the conservative power to bring the nation back
[09:52.120 --> 09:59.040]  to something sensible and stable.
[09:59.040 --> 10:03.240]  Do they have to build a wall, though, to keep Californians out
[10:03.240 --> 10:05.680]  and make sure the Californians pay for the wall?
[10:06.160 --> 10:08.320]  Well, I don't think we have to keep them out.
[10:08.320 --> 10:13.600]  It's just, you know, we have to build a wall, though, to keep Californians out
[10:13.600 --> 10:17.600]  and the only way we have to keep them out is if we can bring them through,
[10:17.600 --> 10:21.360]  we can strip their liberal nature.
[10:21.360 --> 10:27.640]  So don't bring, don't do to Texas what you did to California.
[10:28.000 --> 10:34.880]  I saw a sign in Florida, a big billboard, and apparently they're having the same issue
[10:34.880 --> 10:39.160]  with people coming from California, so they say, don't vote for what you fled.
[10:40.480 --> 10:41.840]  Yes, exactly.
[10:41.840 --> 10:49.160]  And what was it, there was a sign that on entering Texas from the west that said,
[10:49.160 --> 10:55.360]  if you're from California, keep going, don't stop in here, in Texas.
[10:55.360 --> 11:00.040]  I think, you know, this is a pendulum.
[11:00.040 --> 11:02.960]  This is a cycle.
[11:02.960 --> 11:13.080]  And we have, the liberal side has expressed itself and it's not working out very well.
[11:14.120 --> 11:23.400]  And I'm looking forward to the nation moving back to a more conservative posture.
[11:24.440 --> 11:29.240]  The vast majority of the public now is older, more sophisticated.
[11:29.240 --> 11:35.760]  You know, these young kids, they get out of high school and they rebel against their parents.
[11:36.240 --> 11:42.840]  They need to struggle to find themselves and define themselves in this culture.
[11:44.520 --> 11:50.400]  And they forget, you know, I'm 72 years old.
[11:51.200 --> 11:57.640]  What my children forgot when they were 16, they forgot that I was 16 once.
[11:57.640 --> 12:05.960]  And then I was 17 and then I was 18 and 19 and 20 and 30 and 40 and 50.
[12:06.320 --> 12:12.400]  They think we forgot all that stuff we learned along the way.
[12:13.040 --> 12:17.120]  And they have to come back and reteach us.
[12:17.120 --> 12:27.120]  What I see happening in the country as a whole is the country itself is maturing.
[12:27.680 --> 12:41.560]  When I was born, 1949, first half of the last century, the average age was in the early 20s.
[12:41.560 --> 12:53.000]  When I was 26, the average age in the country was my age, and I can certify
[12:53.000 --> 12:59.600]  that when I was 26, I was absolutely certifiably insane.
[13:00.600 --> 13:03.840]  I thought I knew everything.
[13:04.480 --> 13:08.120]  I didn't know squat.
[13:08.120 --> 13:17.760]  I was 26 and then I became 27 and 8 and 9 and 30 and 35 and 40 and 50 and 55 and 60.
[13:18.480 --> 13:26.480]  And all during that time, I had all sorts of experiences and I learned all sorts of things
[13:26.480 --> 13:31.120]  and I watched all kinds of political maneuvers go on.
[13:31.600 --> 13:34.400]  And I learned from those things.
[13:34.400 --> 13:43.840]  My children, when they were 16, 17, 18, 20, they were discovering the world anew.
[13:43.840 --> 13:52.240]  And they thought they were finding new information that no one else had ever seen before.
[13:52.720 --> 13:54.120]  Got it all figured out.
[13:54.720 --> 14:00.120]  Exactly. And they looked at us old folks with the presumption
[14:00.120 --> 14:08.760]  that somehow we got stupid and we forgot all the experience that we've had over all
[14:08.760 --> 14:15.320]  of these years and they needed to show us how the world really worked.
[14:15.800 --> 14:22.560]  And if you look at cultures, you know, look at California with all the college students
[14:22.560 --> 14:26.960]  out there and all of them coming up with all these great ideas and looking
[14:26.960 --> 14:30.240]  at all those old fogies as if we didn't know squat.
[14:32.400 --> 14:41.360]  Well, we've been where they were and then we've been where they're going to be next year,
[14:41.480 --> 14:43.280]  year after, year after that.
[14:43.760 --> 14:52.000]  We've been through where they're at and older cultures, Japanese, Chinese, the older people,
[14:52.000 --> 15:00.920]  it was their job, their purpose to cultural wisdom
[15:00.920 --> 15:04.280]  that they could then impart back to the children.
[15:05.560 --> 15:10.640]  In this country, we seem to have lost respect to the ages, the aged.
[15:10.880 --> 15:15.400]  We assume that all the older people are somehow demented.
[15:17.400 --> 15:19.640]  And we have no idea what's going on.
[15:19.640 --> 15:25.840]  And I think we're reaching a point now with the kinds of stresses that we're dealing
[15:25.840 --> 15:31.920]  with that people are beginning to realize that maybe these old folks aren't
[15:31.920 --> 15:34.080]  as ignorant as we thought they were.
[15:35.480 --> 15:38.720]  It'll be nice to imagine that that's a pendulum as well.
[15:38.720 --> 15:40.480]  It is a pendulum.
[15:42.480 --> 15:47.440]  You know, things are getting out of hand and it's going to take those who are stable
[15:47.440 --> 15:53.040]  and understand how things work to bring things back in order, but it is a pendulum.
[15:54.160 --> 16:02.880]  It's one to the left, it's swinging back to the right, and it'll swing back to the right
[16:02.880 --> 16:07.720]  and the older people will be around a while, they will get things stabilized,
[16:07.720 --> 16:12.120]  then it will swing back to the left, not going to stop.
[16:12.120 --> 16:19.640]  And it's not even a problem, it's the way things should be.
[16:19.640 --> 16:26.200]  It should move from one extreme to the other so that we can begin to settle on the middle.
[16:28.000 --> 16:31.240]  And I see things moving back to the right.
[16:31.240 --> 16:36.360]  They moved far to the left and we got Biden in there and he's appealing
[16:36.360 --> 16:41.240]  to all these college children and they're beginning to realize they're running
[16:41.240 --> 16:43.240]  out of college kids.
[16:43.240 --> 16:49.320]  The old folks are vastly outnumbering them and now we're moving back to the right.
[16:49.320 --> 16:52.600]  So we are on the upcycle.
[16:52.600 --> 16:56.880]  I'm excited, I'm happy about what's happening.
[16:56.880 --> 17:00.400]  Even though it sounds awful, we'll be right back.
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[20:18.880 --> 20:23.400]  When I started out, I spoke to what's going on in Travis County.
[20:23.400 --> 20:37.520]  I have been in this area of research for almost 40 years now, trying to figure out how to organize our issues
[20:37.520 --> 20:42.760]  so we can change things, and we're moving in that direction.
[20:42.760 --> 20:53.560]  I have used Tina Colebrook's complaints against the ex-director of the U.S. Treasury,
[20:53.560 --> 21:03.920]  Mnuchin, accusing him of crimes that he committed when he was acting as the president of One West Bank.
[21:03.920 --> 21:07.360]  Tina filed those with the district attorney in Travis County,
[21:07.360 --> 21:11.280]  and Travis County is important because it's a seat of government.
[21:11.280 --> 21:18.960]  All these other counties around Texas, some 254 counties, looked to Travis County as the seat of government.
[21:18.960 --> 21:22.080]  So he was the right one to hammer.
[21:22.080 --> 21:32.720]  But Tina filed these complaints, and one of the complaints was against a Texas,
[21:32.720 --> 21:50.760]  and it alleged that Mnuchin and his lawyer directed a notary not to send a copy of her ledger to Tina Colebrook.
[21:50.760 --> 21:53.480]  And that's crime in the state of Texas.
[21:53.480 --> 21:57.320]  So he filed against them, but they also filed some other crimes, other allegations,
[21:57.320 --> 22:08.240]  and those allegations were clearly federal allegations over which the district attorney did not have jurisdiction.
[22:08.240 --> 22:11.520]  And that was the good part.
[22:11.520 --> 22:16.440]  And the reason that was a good thing is because the prosecuting attorney sent a letter to Ms.
[22:16.440 --> 22:23.880]  Colebrook saying that they did not have jurisdiction, so they were not going to pursue prosecution.
[22:23.880 --> 22:28.840]  And I looked at it and said, is that a fact? Jack.
[22:28.840 --> 22:39.520]  So where in the heck did you get authority to determine that you did not have jurisdiction?
[22:39.520 --> 22:44.600]  Jurisdiction is not a bar to prosecution.
[22:44.600 --> 22:48.640]  Jurisdiction is an affirmative defense.
[22:48.640 --> 22:52.360]  So the prosecutor would need to put in a motion to dismiss?
[22:52.360 --> 22:57.560]  No, he don't even have authority to do that.
[22:57.560 --> 23:02.920]  He has to wait until after the magistrate makes the call and then put a motion in?
[23:02.920 --> 23:07.480]  No, jurisdiction is not a bar.
[23:07.480 --> 23:12.480]  It's an affirmative defense that must be pled.
[23:12.480 --> 23:19.400]  Who did the prosecutor think he was pleading jurisdiction for the accused?
[23:19.400 --> 23:22.200]  He's not their lawyer.
[23:22.200 --> 23:25.440]  I guess he thought he was the magistrate.
[23:25.440 --> 23:29.920]  That's exactly what I accused him of.
[23:29.920 --> 23:37.000]  Only magistrates get to make a determination of probable cause, not prosecuting attorneys.
[23:37.000 --> 23:45.960]  Our legislature went to great lengths to ensure that a prosecuting attorney would not be in
[23:45.960 --> 23:51.040]  a position to exercise prosecutorial discretion.
[23:51.040 --> 24:01.920]  The only people in Texas law who can exercise prosecutorial discretion by making a determination
[24:01.920 --> 24:12.440]  of probable cause is a magistrate in an examining trial or a trial judge on a motion to dismiss.
[24:12.440 --> 24:16.640]  Nobody else can do that.
[24:16.640 --> 24:19.120]  So who did the prosecutor think he was?
[24:19.120 --> 24:20.720]  Oh, he was right.
[24:20.720 --> 24:30.600]  He did not have jurisdiction, but he did not have standing to make that determination.
[24:30.600 --> 24:37.400]  If he wanted to dismiss the case, he could file a motion with the trial court, moving
[24:37.400 --> 24:46.960]  the court to dismiss the case in the interest of justice, and the judge of the trial court
[24:46.960 --> 24:52.080]  could dismiss that case, not the prosecutor.
[24:52.080 --> 25:02.240]  Our founders created grand juries and magistrates to ensure that prosecutors did not have that
[25:02.240 --> 25:04.680]  power.
[25:04.680 --> 25:13.120]  Grand juries were created to protect the public from prosecuting attorneys.
[25:13.120 --> 25:14.680]  Prosecutors didn't like that.
[25:14.680 --> 25:19.360]  Prosecutors wanted to be able to determine who to prosecute, who not to, because after
[25:19.360 --> 25:21.360]  all, I'm the prosecutor.
[25:21.360 --> 25:25.200]  I'm the guy that has to prosecute this case.
[25:25.200 --> 25:30.720]  So you're telling me that I get a case I don't think I can prosecute and I have to prosecute
[25:30.720 --> 25:31.720]  it anyway?
[25:31.720 --> 25:35.720]  Yeah, that's exactly what I'm telling you.
[25:35.720 --> 25:40.000]  At least as far as the motion to dismiss, I mean, you can't just cut it out from the
[25:40.000 --> 25:41.000]  very beginning.
[25:41.000 --> 25:42.000]  Yeah.
[25:42.000 --> 25:44.920]  I don't care if you think you can win this or not.
[25:44.920 --> 25:45.920]  You have a duty.
[25:45.920 --> 25:51.720]  You're a lawyer that the state hired to represent them.
[25:51.720 --> 25:54.040]  That's all.
[25:54.040 --> 25:56.040]  You are not a magistrate.
[25:56.040 --> 25:58.720]  You are not a trial judge.
[25:58.720 --> 26:04.960]  Only magistrates and trial judges can make a determination of probable cause.
[26:04.960 --> 26:10.040]  Well, you don't want him to feel unimportant or anything, do you?
[26:10.040 --> 26:14.560]  I mean, he's flippable to feel like his feelings hurt if you don't let him be a magistrate
[26:14.560 --> 26:15.560]  sometimes.
[26:15.560 --> 26:16.560]  Poor baby.
[26:16.560 --> 26:18.920]  I feel for you, but I can't reach you.
[26:18.920 --> 26:22.760]  You're just a chump lawyer hired by the state.
[26:22.760 --> 26:25.200]  You want to be something more?
[26:25.200 --> 26:28.360]  Good luck with that.
[26:28.360 --> 26:34.080]  Might be personally, I'm going to land on you like a ton of bricks.
[26:34.080 --> 26:40.400]  I went to the prosecutor's office because that's the only address I have for the grand
[26:40.400 --> 26:49.240]  jury and gave the prosecutor's investigator a criminal complaint, a set of criminal complaints
[26:49.240 --> 26:55.360]  sealed inside an envelope addressed to the former of the grand jury and instructed the
[26:55.360 --> 27:03.040]  prosecutor, I mean, I'm sorry, instructed the investigator to whom I gave the complaint
[27:03.040 --> 27:07.680]  to give this to the grand jury, do not open it.
[27:07.680 --> 27:11.360]  Tell your boss, do not open it.
[27:11.360 --> 27:12.360]  It's a trap.
[27:12.360 --> 27:15.360]  He said, it's a trap?
[27:15.360 --> 27:17.880]  I said, yes, it is.
[27:17.880 --> 27:19.320]  And apparently she didn't get that.
[27:19.320 --> 27:25.800]  So she gave it to her boss and her boss opened it and found criminal complaints against her
[27:25.800 --> 27:33.640]  boss for not presenting criminal complaints against public officials to the grand jury.
[27:33.640 --> 27:36.320]  Oh, that kind of trap.
[27:36.320 --> 27:39.320]  Why didn't you say so?
[27:39.320 --> 27:40.880]  Oh yes.
[27:40.880 --> 27:47.400]  If we are to get control of our system, we must step up and take control of our system.
[27:47.400 --> 27:53.600]  I hope the prosecuting attorney now understands that I set him up and played him like a cheap
[27:53.600 --> 27:56.680]  fiddle.
[27:56.680 --> 28:01.720]  The only reason I could do this is because I'm just like you.
[28:01.720 --> 28:04.360]  I'm an ordinary citizen.
[28:04.360 --> 28:09.440]  We can do this kind of thing and we need to do this kind of thing.
[28:09.440 --> 28:11.040]  I've got a whole board full of callers.
[28:11.040 --> 28:15.400]  I want to talk about what I'm addressing all night long because I think it's really great,
[28:15.400 --> 28:18.120]  but I do have a bunch of callers.
[28:18.120 --> 28:22.520]  I'm going to go ahead and go to our callers if you want to know more about this particular
[28:22.520 --> 28:30.040]  issue, send me an email and I'll explain the underlying strategy in more detail, or maybe
[28:30.040 --> 28:34.080]  I can go into it in more detail tomorrow night when I have more time, but I have so many
[28:34.080 --> 28:35.080]  callers.
[28:35.080 --> 28:36.320]  I want to get to our callers.
[28:36.320 --> 28:39.760]  First one we're going to go to is Olivier in Tennessee.
[28:39.760 --> 28:45.440]  Hello Olivier, what do you have for us today?
[28:45.440 --> 28:50.880]  I wanted to make a quick comment about what you were saying.
[28:50.880 --> 29:02.720]  I had an incident where I called you and informed you that the courts, in one of my cases, the
[29:02.720 --> 29:18.400]  judges had set a trial, but I filed a motion to dismiss because of certain issues.
[29:18.400 --> 29:26.040]  In the hearing court, the judge told me, well, we'll hear your motion on the trial date.
[29:26.040 --> 29:31.640]  I told the judge that I want my motion to be heard before the trial date.
[29:31.640 --> 29:32.640]  He had an attitude.
[29:32.640 --> 29:33.640]  He came at me.
[29:33.640 --> 29:34.640]  A judge with an attitude?
[29:34.640 --> 29:35.640]  You don't say.
[29:35.640 --> 29:36.640]  Your commercial is about to come up.
[29:36.640 --> 29:37.640]  Hello?
[29:37.640 --> 29:52.200]  Okay, somebody muted my mic while I was... Brett, did you mute my mic?
[29:52.200 --> 29:53.200]  I wish I could.
[29:53.200 --> 29:54.200]  Hang on.
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[33:26.440 --> 33:45.440]  Okay, we are back.
[33:45.440 --> 33:47.440]  Randy Kaltenbrecht, Fountain Rule of Law Radio.
[33:47.440 --> 33:50.440]  We're talking to Olivier in Tennessee.
[33:50.440 --> 33:52.440]  Okay, Olivier, where were we?
[33:52.440 --> 33:58.440]  I was kind of busy on the break there trying to get everybody sorted out.
[33:58.440 --> 34:00.440]  Where were we?
[34:00.440 --> 34:05.440]  I was making a comment about what you said earlier about sticking up in court, and you
[34:05.440 --> 34:06.440]  were right.
[34:06.440 --> 34:16.440]  I was making a comment for that where on one of my cases, I filed a motion, and of course
[34:16.440 --> 34:20.440]  the motion was going to be detriment to the argument that they had.
[34:20.440 --> 34:31.440]  This is more concrete because now I'm filing things that are particular to the procedure
[34:31.440 --> 34:39.440]  that they used to suspend my license, and the reason that I redressed it was because
[34:39.440 --> 34:42.440]  of the unlawful suspension of the license.
[34:42.440 --> 34:52.440]  So the motion should be more specific as far as their code goes and the violation of the
[34:52.440 --> 34:53.440]  Constitution.
[34:53.440 --> 34:55.440]  One question I have.
[34:55.440 --> 35:04.440]  Were you able to overcome the fact that you were driving in Florida while black?
[35:04.440 --> 35:06.440]  No, not yet.
[35:06.440 --> 35:10.440]  Okay, I hope we get to that one.
[35:10.440 --> 35:12.440]  Not yet.
[35:12.440 --> 35:16.440]  What were you thinking?
[35:16.440 --> 35:20.440]  I thought I had freedom.
[35:20.440 --> 35:25.440]  Oh, you're my naive child.
[35:25.440 --> 35:28.440]  I thought I had freedom.
[35:28.440 --> 35:36.440]  Okay, for all those of you listening, Olivier is an interesting character.
[35:36.440 --> 35:48.440]  I first saw him in Clarksville, Tennessee, striking individual, walked into the courtroom,
[35:48.440 --> 35:57.440]  and he was black in Tennessee with dreadlocks and a sweatshirt, and he stepped up to the
[35:57.440 --> 36:06.440]  podium and opened his mouth, and everybody in the place stopped in their tracks.
[36:06.440 --> 36:15.440]  They could not believe the level of articulation that come out of his mouth.
[36:15.440 --> 36:19.440]  I was impressed.
[36:19.440 --> 36:21.440]  Anyway, so I pick on him about that a lot.
[36:21.440 --> 36:26.440]  He's got a lot of gall driving in Florida black.
[36:26.440 --> 36:30.440]  The police pulled him over, and they thought, here's an easy mark.
[36:30.440 --> 36:34.440]  He landed on them like a ton of bricks.
[36:34.440 --> 36:36.440]  Okay, I'll shut up about that.
[36:36.440 --> 36:38.440]  Go ahead.
[36:38.440 --> 36:44.440]  So now the judge tells me, well, we'll look at this motion on trial day.
[36:44.440 --> 36:50.440]  I tell him, no, we're going to have a hearing day because we're going to look over that
[36:50.440 --> 36:52.440]  motion before trial day.
[36:52.440 --> 36:58.440]  He threw his spit, and we're like, well, we've got a speedy trial.
[36:58.440 --> 37:00.440]  I looked at him again.
[37:00.440 --> 37:03.440]  I said, we're going to look at that motion before the trial day.
[37:03.440 --> 37:07.440]  Whatever you have to do to make that happen, that's what I want to do.
[37:07.440 --> 37:14.440]  I guess he expected some awkward answer, so he kind of looked at me funny.
[37:14.440 --> 37:19.440]  He stared in the headlight, and then he was like, well, okay.
[37:19.440 --> 37:27.440]  We're going to just call the assistant and make a hearing day before the trial day.
[37:27.440 --> 37:29.440]  I said, okay, fine.
[37:29.440 --> 37:33.440]  So now, almost a week go by, I call the assistant, and I try to get a trial day.
[37:33.440 --> 37:41.440]  She said, oh, no, the judge says that you're going to hear that motion on the trial day.
[37:41.440 --> 37:44.440]  I said, no, he told me to call you.
[37:44.440 --> 37:51.440]  I wouldn't be calling you if the judge did not agree to set a hearing day.
[37:51.440 --> 37:52.440]  Why would I be calling you?
[37:52.440 --> 37:54.440]  She said, well, I have to go confirm.
[37:54.440 --> 37:56.440]  I said, you can go confirm.
[37:56.440 --> 37:58.440]  I was like, I was in the courtroom.
[37:58.440 --> 37:59.440]  I spoke to the judge.
[37:59.440 --> 38:02.440]  What is there to confirm?
[38:02.440 --> 38:11.440]  She said, well, the judge said, listen, I don't know what the judge told you, but this is what's going to happen.
[38:11.440 --> 38:26.440]  We're going to have a hearing before the trial day on my motion, and after that, I'm going to file an interlocutor appeal as I have a right.
[38:26.440 --> 38:32.440]  I have a right to an interlocutor appeal, and that's exactly what I expect to do.
[38:32.440 --> 38:38.440]  She said, well, I'm going to talk to the judge, and we'll notify you by email.
[38:38.440 --> 38:39.440]  Notify me by email.
[38:39.440 --> 38:41.440]  I don't pick up my emails.
[38:41.440 --> 38:43.440]  I can't get a phone call.
[38:43.440 --> 38:46.440]  She said, well, the system will go by email.
[38:46.440 --> 38:47.440]  I said, okay.
[38:47.440 --> 38:48.440]  You know what?
[38:48.440 --> 38:51.440]  I'm not going to worry about it, but I said, okay, fine.
[38:51.440 --> 38:53.440]  I wasn't going to sit here and argue with her.
[38:53.440 --> 39:02.440]  Then I was going through my paperwork, because now it's almost time for my appeal on my declaratory judgment that they dismissed.
[39:02.440 --> 39:06.440]  I'm going through my paperwork and trying to line everything up, and I see an email.
[39:06.440 --> 39:15.440]  I go look at the email, and the trial date that they set for the email, because I got prepared, because I called you,
[39:15.440 --> 39:22.440]  and you told me just to ask for continuance when I go on the trial day, have a motion for continuance and all of that.
[39:22.440 --> 39:28.440]  I'm looking at the email, and they changed the trial date to a hearing date.
[39:28.440 --> 39:31.440]  In my head, I sat back.
[39:31.440 --> 39:32.440]  I'm like, man.
[39:32.440 --> 39:39.440]  Wait a minute. Hold on. You said they changed the trial date to a hearing date,
[39:39.440 --> 39:43.440]  so that's a hearing date on your motion rather than the trial itself.
[39:43.440 --> 39:44.440]  Yes.
[39:44.440 --> 39:46.440]  Okay. Go ahead.
[39:46.440 --> 39:54.440]  I was saying that in reference to what you were saying earlier, that we have all the power.
[39:54.440 --> 40:01.440]  Even though I did all that and I still communicated with you to try to get a resolve,
[40:01.440 --> 40:05.440]  but you told me to do something else, and what I did was just spoke.
[40:05.440 --> 40:12.440]  I spoke, communicated with them what right I had, and this is my intent, and I'm going to address this.
[40:12.440 --> 40:20.440]  Two days later, I get an email saying that my trial date is now a hearing date.
[40:20.440 --> 40:32.440]  It made me feel a little bit more reassured in the application being applied. That's hope.
[40:32.440 --> 40:43.440]  This is what happens when you use their law against them, and you're not intimidated.
[40:43.440 --> 40:46.440]  Okay. Where are you now?
[40:46.440 --> 40:54.440]  Right now, I'm, okay, so that was just the relate to what you said earlier.
[40:54.440 --> 40:58.440]  Right now, I'm looking at over all the information, the arguments that they made,
[40:58.440 --> 41:01.440]  which was there's a lot of things that's standing out,
[41:01.440 --> 41:05.440]  but I'm going to wait until there's a longer period of time because I would have to read it.
[41:05.440 --> 41:10.440]  It's hilarious. They are contradicting each other. It's a setup.
[41:10.440 --> 41:15.440]  So I'm going to feed that to you tomorrow if you're on the air.
[41:15.440 --> 41:24.440]  Today, I just wanted to go quickly over, let everybody have the case that really is explaining
[41:24.440 --> 41:30.440]  and addressing the issues about, they call it right to livelihood.
[41:30.440 --> 41:51.440]  It's 966F.3D5212020. It's Robertson versus Long. And in that case...
[41:51.440 --> 41:55.440]  Wait, wait. Robertson versus Law?
[41:55.440 --> 41:58.440]  Long. L-O-U-G.
[41:58.440 --> 42:01.440]  This is a Florida case?
[42:01.440 --> 42:05.440]  This is a federal case. This is the Tennessee case,
[42:05.440 --> 42:13.440]  which they ruled that suspension of the driver's license for court fines and fees
[42:13.440 --> 42:28.440]  without a procedural, without a process, without verifying that the indigent defendant has means to pay
[42:28.440 --> 42:36.440]  is unconstitutional because it says that we have the right to livelihood.
[42:36.440 --> 42:52.440]  Okay, so it doesn't go to whether or not you actually had the funds to secure counsel or whatever.
[42:52.440 --> 42:59.440]  It was, okay, let me make sure I got, I'm missing, I want to make sure I got this right.
[42:59.440 --> 43:02.440]  Say that again.
[43:02.440 --> 43:16.440]  They're saying that the state cannot suspend someone's license without having a disclosure
[43:16.440 --> 43:19.440]  or like a meeting, I forgot what they call it, but they have to have...
[43:19.440 --> 43:23.440]  To adjudicate the matter of whether or not the person can pay?
[43:23.440 --> 43:35.440]  Right, they have to prove, they have to provide the person, provide them ability to prove if they can pay or not pay.
[43:35.440 --> 43:38.440]  Okay, wait a minute, that was really, really important.
[43:38.440 --> 43:39.440]  Yeah.
[43:39.440 --> 43:46.440]  They have to prove that you can or you have to prove that you can't?
[43:46.440 --> 43:50.440]  Yeah, that's a big difference.
[43:50.440 --> 43:53.440]  They have the burden.
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[46:37.440 --> 46:41.440]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain Rule of Law Radio,
[46:41.440 --> 46:45.440]  and we're talking to Olivier in Florida.
[46:45.440 --> 46:48.440]  You mentioned Robertson V. Long.
[46:48.440 --> 46:52.440]  I could not find it. Brett could not find it over the break.
[46:52.440 --> 46:55.440]  Can you give us a case number?
[46:55.440 --> 47:07.440]  Right. It says Robertson V. Long, 966 F, period, 3D, 521,
[47:07.440 --> 47:11.440]  Court of Appeals, 6th Circuit, 2020.
[47:11.440 --> 47:15.440]  And Randy, I know where you're going with it, and you're correct,
[47:15.440 --> 47:21.440]  because we're arguing that, hey, there's commercial and there's non-commercial.
[47:21.440 --> 47:26.440]  The court is saying, hey, we don't care if it's commercial or non-commercial,
[47:26.440 --> 47:31.440]  because underneath the right to livelihood, you have the right to a commercial license,
[47:31.440 --> 47:35.440]  and you have the right not to have a commercial license.
[47:35.440 --> 47:40.440]  But the state does not have the right to suspend your license,
[47:40.440 --> 47:47.440]  even if you're in commercial, because they did not have a court hearing
[47:47.440 --> 47:50.440]  to address your finances.
[47:50.440 --> 47:53.440]  So that is a violation of law.
[47:53.440 --> 48:01.440]  And then they turn around and say that there's a rational basis review.
[48:01.440 --> 48:07.440]  Rational basis review is basically saying, what the state is trying to enact,
[48:07.440 --> 48:16.440]  is it rational? And they, by law, is it rational to regulate what they have the right to regulate?
[48:16.440 --> 48:26.440]  And the courts have looked at it and said that it is irrational to suspend an indigent's license
[48:26.440 --> 48:35.440]  for failure to pay fines and fees, because they're already indigent.
[48:35.440 --> 48:41.440]  Okay. The fact that you're indigent necessarily means that paying the fines
[48:41.440 --> 48:48.440]  and fees would be unduly prohibitive and kill your access to the courts.
[48:48.440 --> 48:58.440]  Right. And they said that it's also different punishment on different class.
[48:58.440 --> 49:04.440]  Basically, some people can pay, and they get to keep their license, and other people can't pay.
[49:04.440 --> 49:06.440]  Exactly.
[49:06.440 --> 49:12.440]  So there's a whole bunch. If you look very closely into their wording,
[49:12.440 --> 49:22.440]  there's different ways to bring out this violation, this constitutional problem.
[49:22.440 --> 49:26.440]  There's different ways to argue it or say it.
[49:26.440 --> 49:32.440]  And this case really brought it out, and it really falls up on the right to livelihood.
[49:32.440 --> 49:40.440]  And during this research, I've come to find out even people who have commercial jobs
[49:40.440 --> 49:44.440]  can get things overturned or have an argument.
[49:44.440 --> 49:48.440]  Because, hey, you didn't bring me to court to see if I can afford to pay all this.
[49:48.440 --> 49:54.440]  I don't care if I make $10,000 a month. Who cares?
[49:54.440 --> 50:01.440]  You didn't bring me to court and assess my bills and everything that I had else to do
[50:01.440 --> 50:06.440]  according to what I'm paying if I'm going to be able to afford this?
[50:06.440 --> 50:13.440]  Because we have a right to livelihood, and you have to follow procedures, do process procedures.
[50:13.440 --> 50:24.440]  So essentially, everyone has been taken over, has been filed or violated.
[50:24.440 --> 50:29.440]  I think I'm missing something.
[50:29.440 --> 50:31.440]  I like it.
[50:31.440 --> 50:35.440]  How was the claim brought?
[50:35.440 --> 50:43.440]  And what protection should have been in place to ensure that the claim was properly brought
[50:43.440 --> 50:50.440]  against someone who could actually pay?
[50:50.440 --> 50:55.440]  And how did they know you couldn't pay?
[50:55.440 --> 51:00.440]  They have to have a hearing.
[51:00.440 --> 51:06.440]  Is there a presumption that someone accused of crime can't pay a fine?
[51:06.440 --> 51:08.440]  I don't think this goes to crime.
[51:08.440 --> 51:14.440]  This is talking specifically about a suspension, which is an administrative function.
[51:14.440 --> 51:17.440]  This is something I was looking at early on.
[51:17.440 --> 51:24.440]  Why are we dealing with a suspension anywhere other than the one agency
[51:24.440 --> 51:30.440]  that's been given administrative purview?
[51:30.440 --> 51:35.440]  And it's this one bunch in Austin, for Texas anyway,
[51:35.440 --> 51:39.440]  and they handle administrative hearings such as suspensions.
[51:39.440 --> 51:50.440]  So it does make sense to me that the act of suspension has to include all the factors.
[51:50.440 --> 51:59.440]  Well, I'm trying to understand Olivier in Florida.
[51:59.440 --> 52:05.440]  How do they get to you?
[52:05.440 --> 52:13.440]  Who is required to determine whether or not you have an inability to pay?
[52:13.440 --> 52:21.440]  Do you have to plead it, or must the state consider it automatically?
[52:21.440 --> 52:25.440]  The state must consider it.
[52:25.440 --> 52:33.440]  And how is the state required to make determinations concerning your ability to pay?
[52:33.440 --> 52:37.440]  By having a hearing.
[52:37.440 --> 52:44.440]  Does the state necessarily have to invoke a hearing for this purpose
[52:44.440 --> 52:51.440]  with no input from the accused?
[52:51.440 --> 52:57.440]  What I'm saying is, would they have to have this kind of hearing in every single case?
[52:57.440 --> 53:05.440]  Yes, the accused has to be present.
[53:05.440 --> 53:11.440]  Okay. But how does that go to inability to pay?
[53:11.440 --> 53:14.440]  Well, here's the thing.
[53:14.440 --> 53:16.440]  Certain people are indigent.
[53:16.440 --> 53:24.440]  Certain people, this third time, and the court cases have fines and fees on them, and they add up.
[53:24.440 --> 53:32.440]  So there's a statute in every state which allows the courts to suspend your license because of fines and fees.
[53:32.440 --> 53:36.440]  We need to attack that statute that says that's unlawful.
[53:36.440 --> 53:42.440]  You can't suspend for fines and fees, number one, without having a hearing
[53:42.440 --> 53:49.440]  to see if what you're doing is going to affect the person's right to livelihood,
[53:49.440 --> 53:52.440]  because you're not allowed to do that.
[53:52.440 --> 53:53.440]  So you do process.
[53:53.440 --> 54:00.440]  Number two, if the person is indigent, there's not even a reason to have a hearing,
[54:00.440 --> 54:02.440]  because he's indigent.
[54:02.440 --> 54:05.440]  You can't take their license because they have to...
[54:05.440 --> 54:07.440]  In the case, I was going to read some paragraphs,
[54:07.440 --> 54:14.440]  but it says that they have to take their children and mothers to hospitals.
[54:14.440 --> 54:19.440]  It gives a few examples.
[54:19.440 --> 54:24.440]  So number one, any suspensions, there must be a determination,
[54:24.440 --> 54:30.440]  a hearing determination given the person's opportunity and notice.
[54:30.440 --> 54:35.440]  Yeah, notice and opportunity, okay.
[54:35.440 --> 54:41.440]  So you're saying in this case they didn't give notice and opportunity?
[54:41.440 --> 54:46.440]  No, they don't even have a system set up to do that.
[54:46.440 --> 54:48.440]  They challenged the statute.
[54:48.440 --> 54:50.440]  Okay, stop, stop, stop.
[54:50.440 --> 54:54.440]  If they have a duty to do a certain thing,
[54:54.440 --> 55:03.440]  and they don't have a protocol or procedure set up to do that thing,
[55:03.440 --> 55:07.440]  what's that called?
[55:07.440 --> 55:09.440]  What is it called?
[55:09.440 --> 55:10.440]  Yeah.
[55:10.440 --> 55:12.440]  In due process?
[55:12.440 --> 55:13.440]  Yeah, exactly.
[55:13.440 --> 55:14.440]  That's what I'm thinking.
[55:14.440 --> 55:22.440]  And before we get to the merits, they failed to perform a duty they required to perform.
[55:22.440 --> 55:25.440]  That's what the court was saying.
[55:25.440 --> 55:36.440]  The court said that because they did not have a hearing to determine that that was a due process violation,
[55:36.440 --> 55:43.440]  it didn't mention anything about them being indigent or being a commercial driver or anything.
[55:43.440 --> 55:49.440]  The point is made is before the states send any license,
[55:49.440 --> 55:53.440]  privilege, rights, it doesn't matter what you call it,
[55:53.440 --> 55:57.440]  but before they send any license that must be a hearing,
[55:57.440 --> 56:04.440]  it's all because the license, commercial or non-commercial,
[56:04.440 --> 56:12.440]  commercial or non-commercial is an essential part of everyone's livelihood.
[56:12.440 --> 56:21.440]  That means you get up, you work to make money, or you get up to go have pleasure.
[56:21.440 --> 56:26.440]  So because that is an essential part of the right to livelihood,
[56:26.440 --> 56:34.440]  they must have a hearing to address that commercial, non-commercial, it doesn't matter.
[56:34.440 --> 56:35.440]  Okay.
[56:35.440 --> 56:41.440]  Have you attempted to secure a date for such a hearing?
[56:41.440 --> 56:42.440]  No.
[56:42.440 --> 56:45.440]  It's not our burden.
[56:45.440 --> 56:51.440]  We're not the one trying to suspend the license.
[56:51.440 --> 56:56.440]  So they have to set a hearing and they haven't.
[56:56.440 --> 56:59.440]  I'm kind of losing track here a little bit.
[56:59.440 --> 57:00.440]  Yes, yes.
[57:00.440 --> 57:13.440]  The plaintiffs sued Tennessee to that statute which allowed them to suspend the license.
[57:13.440 --> 57:19.440]  And they sued it underneath the fact that they're indigent
[57:19.440 --> 57:23.440]  and they should not be taking a license from indigent individuals
[57:23.440 --> 57:26.440]  because they can't pay fines and fees,
[57:26.440 --> 57:30.440]  and it'll be like imprisoning people for fines and fees.
[57:30.440 --> 57:34.440]  If you go to jail, when they suspend your license for fines and fees,
[57:34.440 --> 57:40.440]  you essentially went to jail for not paying fines and fees.
[57:40.440 --> 57:47.440]  So that becomes, that's absolutely forbidden, no debtors present.
[57:47.440 --> 57:48.440]  Right.
[57:48.440 --> 57:51.440]  You're going to jail because you're poor.
[57:51.440 --> 57:52.440]  Yes.
[57:52.440 --> 57:56.440]  That's what they were arguing, but the court has brought out other issues.
[57:56.440 --> 57:58.440]  They said, okay, yeah, that's fine,
[57:58.440 --> 58:04.440]  but there needs to be a determination, a hearing determination before all that happens.
[58:04.440 --> 58:11.440]  So before we get to using indigent, they've already broken the law.
[58:11.440 --> 58:19.440]  And if you can get them to break the law, then go ahead and have you filed against them for that.
[58:19.440 --> 58:22.440]  You've got a commercial coming up.
[58:22.440 --> 58:23.440]  Okay.
[58:23.440 --> 58:24.440]  Hang on.
[58:24.440 --> 58:27.440]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rue La Radio.
[58:27.440 --> 58:32.440]  I'll call it number 512-646-1984.
[58:32.440 --> 58:33.440]  Let's see.
[58:33.440 --> 58:35.440]  I lost track of where we're at.
[58:35.440 --> 58:37.440]  We've got 15 seconds.
[58:37.440 --> 58:39.440]  We've got 15 seconds.
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[01:01:01.440 --> 01:01:04.440]  It protects us from being forced to share our homes with soldiers,
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[01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:17.440]  tell them to dust off their copy of the Bill of Rights and reread the Third Amendment.
[01:01:17.440 --> 01:01:32.440]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[01:01:32.440 --> 01:01:35.440]  The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution.
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[01:03:50.440 --> 01:03:59.440]  Grant DeKalton, Brett Fountain, Rue de la Radio on this, the sixth day of January, 2022.
[01:03:59.440 --> 01:04:05.440]  And we're talking to Olivier. OK, Olivier.
[01:04:05.440 --> 01:04:12.440]  Brett told me exactly where I should go with you, but I lost it in doing so.
[01:04:12.440 --> 01:04:14.440]  Bring us back, Brett.
[01:04:14.440 --> 01:04:17.440]  But he did get the date right. You've got to give him that.
[01:04:17.440 --> 01:04:23.440]  All right. So, yeah, I was just reminding that Olivier was calling in for some other reason.
[01:04:23.440 --> 01:04:31.440]  And then you caught him on this thing about the hearing, the suspension hearing about impoverished.
[01:04:31.440 --> 01:04:37.440]  And he had some other thing he had called in about, and he was about to move right on past this.
[01:04:37.440 --> 01:04:42.440]  Oh, I will say, though, just quickly, insert that I found that case.
[01:04:42.440 --> 01:04:52.440]  And I think I just heard it wrong because it is Robinson, R-O-B-I-N-S-O-N, Fred Robinson v. Jeff Long.
[01:04:52.440 --> 01:04:54.440]  But yeah, anyway, found it.
[01:04:54.440 --> 01:04:58.440]  But yeah, go ahead to what it was that you were calling about, Olivier.
[01:04:58.440 --> 01:04:59.440]  You had something else on your mind.
[01:04:59.440 --> 01:05:04.440]  You were telling us about the judge with a bad attitude and you were rolling through to get to somewhere.
[01:05:04.440 --> 01:05:07.440]  We didn't let you get that far.
[01:05:07.440 --> 01:05:19.440]  No, I cleared that up already. The basic thing was he tried to muscle the motion to be heard on the trial date to just, you know, run me over.
[01:05:19.440 --> 01:05:23.440]  I told him that the motion was going to be heard before the trial date.
[01:05:23.440 --> 01:05:31.440]  And he threw up an attitude, talking about, oh, well, speedy trial, this and that.
[01:05:31.440 --> 01:05:34.440]  And I looked at him. I restated myself.
[01:05:34.440 --> 01:05:38.440]  I said, the motion is going to be heard before the trial date.
[01:05:38.440 --> 01:05:42.440]  And then he's like, well, I said something and you gave me an answer.
[01:05:42.440 --> 01:05:44.440]  I looked at the judge.
[01:05:44.440 --> 01:05:50.440]  I said, whatever you have to do to make the motion be heard before the trial date, that's what I want.
[01:05:50.440 --> 01:05:52.440]  And he caught off.
[01:05:52.440 --> 01:05:54.440]  You know, like he couldn't.
[01:05:54.440 --> 01:05:57.440]  A lot of running around, but then you ended up getting it.
[01:05:57.440 --> 01:06:04.440]  And the bad part about it was like it was a line of attorneys standing there just looking at me like, what is going on here?
[01:06:04.440 --> 01:06:12.440]  So, you know, I guess the judge thought I was going to back down after he got aggressive with me.
[01:06:12.440 --> 01:06:15.440]  And then after I looked at him, I'm like, what didn't you understand?
[01:06:15.440 --> 01:06:18.440]  Like, do I have to restate the sentence again?
[01:06:18.440 --> 01:06:22.440]  You know, and after I said it that way, you know what I'm saying, he got embarrassed.
[01:06:22.440 --> 01:06:25.440]  He did not allow that to happen again.
[01:06:25.440 --> 01:06:32.440]  Then when I called his, when I called the judge's assistant to make the hearing date, she was giving an attitude.
[01:06:32.440 --> 01:06:37.440]  Like, oh, the judge says in the courtroom that you're not going to have a hearing date.
[01:06:37.440 --> 01:06:38.440]  I'm like, what?
[01:06:38.440 --> 01:06:42.440]  I'm like, I was in the courtroom and the judge did say that.
[01:06:42.440 --> 01:06:47.440]  And I corrected the judge and told him that I have a right and I wanted to be heard before that.
[01:06:47.440 --> 01:06:55.440]  And I told her that I have a right to an interrogatory appeal and that's what was going to happen.
[01:06:55.440 --> 01:07:02.440]  And then, you know, they made a, she made a mess first about the communication that was going to be had with me
[01:07:02.440 --> 01:07:03.440]  because I wanted a phone call.
[01:07:03.440 --> 01:07:05.440]  She's like, no, we do with email.
[01:07:05.440 --> 01:07:06.440]  Everything's on email.
[01:07:06.440 --> 01:07:09.440]  I'm like, well, I don't know how long, when I'm going to check my email.
[01:07:09.440 --> 01:07:11.440]  I said, oh, well, that's not my problem.
[01:07:11.440 --> 01:07:13.440]  I said, okay, you know what?
[01:07:13.440 --> 01:07:14.440]  Fine.
[01:07:14.440 --> 01:07:15.440]  It doesn't matter.
[01:07:15.440 --> 01:07:21.440]  As long as they understand that my motion is going to be heard before the hearing day
[01:07:21.440 --> 01:07:25.440]  and an interrogatory appeal is on its way.
[01:07:25.440 --> 01:07:34.440]  And then I was looking through my answers, through my lawsuits, through the cities and everything,
[01:07:34.440 --> 01:07:39.440]  getting everything organized, and I saw the email.
[01:07:39.440 --> 01:07:45.440]  They changed the trial date to a hearing date.
[01:07:45.440 --> 01:07:49.440]  So basically, letting me know that my message got across.
[01:07:49.440 --> 01:07:53.440]  Good.
[01:07:53.440 --> 01:07:57.440]  You have an interesting style.
[01:07:57.440 --> 01:08:05.440]  And I hope everybody listening can learn from that because this is how a sovereign,
[01:08:05.440 --> 01:08:10.440]  I don't like the term sovereign because they've adulterated it,
[01:08:10.440 --> 01:08:17.440]  but this is how a master of the servants conducts themselves.
[01:08:17.440 --> 01:08:22.440]  And these public servants are used to everybody coming in, meek as a lamb,
[01:08:22.440 --> 01:08:25.440]  and doing whatever they want them to do.
[01:08:25.440 --> 01:08:29.440]  They're not accustomed to someone taking them on.
[01:08:29.440 --> 01:08:35.440]  So where are we at this point with this case?
[01:08:35.440 --> 01:08:38.440]  Do you have a hearing date coming up?
[01:08:38.440 --> 01:08:41.440]  When is it?
[01:08:41.440 --> 01:08:47.440]  I have three cases in the county courts,
[01:08:47.440 --> 01:08:55.440]  but in a separate case where I'm suing them on the declaratory judgment on the civil part.
[01:08:55.440 --> 01:08:57.440]  So I think you might be getting them mixed up.
[01:08:57.440 --> 01:08:59.440]  It was kind of hard to follow.
[01:08:59.440 --> 01:09:08.440]  I only mentioned that because of what you were saying earlier to the crowd in your intro.
[01:09:08.440 --> 01:09:18.440]  It just reminded me of that experience that I had, and I wanted to mention that.
[01:09:18.440 --> 01:09:21.440]  We had lost the last part.
[01:09:21.440 --> 01:09:23.440]  I said that.
[01:09:23.440 --> 01:09:28.440]  I just wanted to mention that because I have several cases going up,
[01:09:28.440 --> 01:09:30.440]  so you've probably got them mixed up.
[01:09:30.440 --> 01:09:34.440]  Good chance I did.
[01:09:34.440 --> 01:09:40.440]  Okay, then center us.
[01:09:40.440 --> 01:09:45.440]  Just focus so we're going to run out of time.
[01:09:45.440 --> 01:09:57.440]  Okay, right now I wanted to give everybody the case that basically explains
[01:09:57.440 --> 01:10:04.440]  the unconstitutionality of the states to speak to the common vice.
[01:10:04.440 --> 01:10:07.440]  And it's a case that I just gave you.
[01:10:07.440 --> 01:10:13.440]  And the ways that we were speaking about it earlier are the ways
[01:10:13.440 --> 01:10:19.440]  that the court has brought out that are errant.
[01:10:19.440 --> 01:10:24.440]  Okay, the case you're talking about is Robertson v. Long, correct?
[01:10:24.440 --> 01:10:26.440]  Yes.
[01:10:26.440 --> 01:10:28.440]  What does that case say?
[01:10:28.440 --> 01:10:31.440]  Robinson.
[01:10:31.440 --> 01:10:40.440]  In that case, it says that the state, what happened in the case is the indigent defendant
[01:10:40.440 --> 01:10:47.440]  sued Tennessee stating that the statute that suspended their license for them
[01:10:47.440 --> 01:10:53.440]  not being able to pay, for the plaintiffs not being able to pay fines and fees
[01:10:53.440 --> 01:10:55.440]  was unconstitutional.
[01:10:55.440 --> 01:10:58.440]  That's the argument that they raised.
[01:10:58.440 --> 01:11:04.440]  But going through the case, the court explained yes, that's correct,
[01:11:04.440 --> 01:11:07.440]  but they basically explained the whole process.
[01:11:07.440 --> 01:11:14.440]  And what the court explains is that in order for the state to take away a right
[01:11:14.440 --> 01:11:22.440]  or privilege, there is a process, there is a hearing that needs to be in place
[01:11:22.440 --> 01:11:29.440]  before that right or privilege is taken away for fines and fees.
[01:11:29.440 --> 01:11:33.440]  Because everyone has a right to livelihood.
[01:11:33.440 --> 01:11:35.440]  Okay, what hearing is that?
[01:11:35.440 --> 01:11:39.440]  Has that hearing been held?
[01:11:39.440 --> 01:11:42.440]  No, the hearing hasn't been held.
[01:11:42.440 --> 01:11:48.440]  This is a common procedure that the states do not do.
[01:11:48.440 --> 01:11:52.440]  No state does it.
[01:11:52.440 --> 01:11:57.440]  Oh, so they're required to hold this hearing, but they don't hold this hearing.
[01:11:57.440 --> 01:12:04.440]  Right, so this is the same thing as the statutory construction requirement.
[01:12:04.440 --> 01:12:09.440]  There's things in the hearing that we're not aware to,
[01:12:09.440 --> 01:12:11.440]  the state is not really aware to.
[01:12:11.440 --> 01:12:14.440]  If they are aware to it, they don't want to do it
[01:12:14.440 --> 01:12:17.440]  because it's going to cost them more money and they're not going to win.
[01:12:17.440 --> 01:12:20.440]  But the point is that we're not aware to them.
[01:12:20.440 --> 01:12:24.440]  So since we don't know that the state has to have all these requirements
[01:12:24.440 --> 01:12:28.440]  on statutory constructions, we don't essentially know that the state has
[01:12:28.440 --> 01:12:35.440]  requirements to do before they suspend a right or a privilege
[01:12:35.440 --> 01:12:43.440]  because that right or privilege is attached to our right to livelihood.
[01:12:43.440 --> 01:12:54.440]  Okay, so when they don't act in accordance with the requirements,
[01:12:54.440 --> 01:13:00.440]  what is your remedy in Florida?
[01:13:00.440 --> 01:13:02.440]  What is the remedy?
[01:13:02.440 --> 01:13:03.440]  Yeah, what's the remedy?
[01:13:03.440 --> 01:13:04.440]  How do you go after them?
[01:13:04.440 --> 01:13:08.440]  What's the claim that you can make against them?
[01:13:08.440 --> 01:13:13.440]  Right now in Florida, the next step is I'm going to challenge the statute
[01:13:13.440 --> 01:13:21.440]  underneath the arguments that the federal court has listed in this case.
[01:13:21.440 --> 01:13:24.440]  I'm going to challenge the Florida statute,
[01:13:24.440 --> 01:13:28.440]  which allows them to suspend the licenses.
[01:13:28.440 --> 01:13:32.440]  I must say that it's unconstitutional because there is not a process there
[01:13:32.440 --> 01:13:38.440]  to have a hearing, to have a determination hearing to.
[01:13:38.440 --> 01:13:40.440]  I'm indigent.
[01:13:40.440 --> 01:13:42.440]  The case showed I'm indigent.
[01:13:42.440 --> 01:13:50.440]  My license has been suspended for fines and fees, which is unlawful.
[01:13:50.440 --> 01:13:57.440]  Okay, you brought the case law forward that shows specifically
[01:13:57.440 --> 01:13:59.440]  that that's unlawful.
[01:13:59.440 --> 01:14:00.440]  Yes.
[01:14:00.440 --> 01:14:06.440]  Did you consider filing criminally against the judge who would act
[01:14:06.440 --> 01:14:10.440]  in contravention to that case?
[01:14:10.440 --> 01:14:22.440]  Well, the judge that just changed my trial date to a hearing date
[01:14:22.440 --> 01:14:27.440]  is the judge that is facing one of those motions right now.
[01:14:27.440 --> 01:14:29.440]  This is new information.
[01:14:29.440 --> 01:14:35.440]  My argument is different because I want to uncover the whole automobile.
[01:14:35.440 --> 01:14:39.440]  I want to break it up real nice and clean.
[01:14:39.440 --> 01:14:42.440]  What's out here is a way out.
[01:14:42.440 --> 01:14:45.440]  If I can't prove my point, it doesn't matter.
[01:14:45.440 --> 01:14:55.440]  You're dead to the wrong because you were wrong at the word go.
[01:14:55.440 --> 01:14:58.440]  Okay, you said you were wrong at the word go.
[01:14:58.440 --> 01:15:01.440]  Who specifically does you refer to?
[01:15:01.440 --> 01:15:02.440]  The state.
[01:15:02.440 --> 01:15:04.440]  The ones who were trying to do the suspension.
[01:15:04.440 --> 01:15:05.440]  Yeah, the state.
[01:15:05.440 --> 01:15:12.440]  The ones who were trying to suspend your right from the word go.
[01:15:12.440 --> 01:15:13.440]  Okay, what's your remedy?
[01:15:13.440 --> 01:15:15.440]  How do you go after these guys?
[01:15:15.440 --> 01:15:16.440]  How do you go after?
[01:15:16.440 --> 01:15:22.440]  Well, the individual, the plaintiffs in this case filed a federal suit
[01:15:22.440 --> 01:15:24.440]  and challenged the statute.
[01:15:24.440 --> 01:15:29.440]  They won in the federal court.
[01:15:29.440 --> 01:15:30.440]  Okay, wait, wait, wait.
[01:15:30.440 --> 01:15:32.440]  What did they win?
[01:15:32.440 --> 01:15:34.440]  You said challenge the statute.
[01:15:34.440 --> 01:15:39.440]  Was the statute ruled unconstitutional?
[01:15:39.440 --> 01:15:46.440]  Yes, and the suspension of the license was ruled unconstitutional.
[01:15:46.440 --> 01:15:52.440]  So you have a jurisdiction trying to enforce a statute
[01:15:52.440 --> 01:15:55.440]  that has been ruled unconstitutional.
[01:15:55.440 --> 01:15:58.440]  Am I correct in that?
[01:15:58.440 --> 01:16:00.440]  This is new.
[01:16:00.440 --> 01:16:07.440]  So this is a new ruling that just happened, 2020.
[01:16:07.440 --> 01:16:08.440]  No, this is 2022.
[01:16:08.440 --> 01:16:11.440]  That's not so new.
[01:16:11.440 --> 01:16:13.440]  This is new.
[01:16:13.440 --> 01:16:18.440]  Well, this is new as far as implementing that statute.
[01:16:18.440 --> 01:16:23.440]  The way that the court has expressed it is new.
[01:16:23.440 --> 01:16:25.440]  Oh, okay.
[01:16:25.440 --> 01:16:33.440]  They express all the old rights, but also put it in a form to fit this case
[01:16:33.440 --> 01:16:36.440]  to show how it violated this case.
[01:16:36.440 --> 01:16:43.440]  I mean, these rules, the way that they applied it,
[01:16:43.440 --> 01:16:54.440]  it shows how they violated the law, how the state violated the law.
[01:16:54.440 --> 01:17:00.440]  All right, we'll have to talk about that on the other side.
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[01:19:41.440 --> 01:19:46.440]  You put the fear in my pocket, took the money from my hand
[01:19:46.440 --> 01:19:51.440]  Ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again
[01:19:51.440 --> 01:20:11.440]  Ain't gonna fool me
[01:20:11.440 --> 01:20:21.440]  Ain't gonna fool me
[01:20:41.440 --> 01:20:51.440]  Ain't gonna fool me
[01:21:11.440 --> 01:21:21.440]  Ain't gonna fool me
[01:21:41.440 --> 01:21:51.440]  Ain't gonna fool me
[01:22:11.440 --> 01:22:21.440]  Ain't gonna fool me
[01:22:41.440 --> 01:22:51.440]  Ain't gonna fool me
[01:23:12.440 --> 01:23:16.440]  Missouri
[01:23:16.440 --> 01:23:20.440]  New Kansas City
[01:23:20.440 --> 01:23:21.440]  No!
[01:23:21.440 --> 01:23:23.440]  I'm not Kansas City
[01:23:23.440 --> 01:23:41.440]  Yeah, it's by Springfield
[01:23:41.440 --> 01:23:42.440]  Mm-hmm
[01:23:49.440 --> 01:23:51.440]  But you guys can hear me fine?
[01:23:51.440 --> 01:23:53.440]  Yes, sir
[01:23:53.440 --> 01:23:54.440]  That's what your mind is saying
[01:23:54.440 --> 01:23:55.440]  All right
[01:23:55.440 --> 01:24:00.440]  All right, Randy, this is for a good old military friend
[01:24:00.440 --> 01:24:03.440]  A question that he has an issue to deal with
[01:24:03.440 --> 01:24:09.440]  He has a son who shot a pistol in a trailer
[01:24:09.440 --> 01:24:11.440]  Okay, hold on
[01:24:11.440 --> 01:24:15.440]  He has a son that shot a pistol in a trailer?
[01:24:15.440 --> 01:24:18.440]  Yeah, that's in Texas
[01:24:18.440 --> 01:24:22.440]  Was anybody else in the trailer?
[01:24:22.440 --> 01:24:24.440]  Yes
[01:24:24.440 --> 01:24:30.440]  It was his wife who he has had trouble with
[01:24:30.440 --> 01:24:32.440]  But I want to try and make this short and quick
[01:24:32.440 --> 01:24:34.440]  So you guys can have somebody else talk
[01:24:34.440 --> 01:24:38.440]  But anyways, so he got arrested
[01:24:38.440 --> 01:24:43.440]  There was two witnesses supposedly, which was the wife and some other guy
[01:24:43.440 --> 01:24:46.440]  They now refused to testify
[01:24:46.440 --> 01:24:48.440]  He did not get in front of a magistrate
[01:24:48.440 --> 01:24:52.440]  He has been in jail
[01:24:52.440 --> 01:24:54.440]  So-called assigned lawyer
[01:24:54.440 --> 01:24:56.440]  Will not talk to him until...
[01:24:56.440 --> 01:24:57.440]  Wait, wait, wait
[01:24:57.440 --> 01:25:01.440]  He has been in jail how long?
[01:25:01.440 --> 01:25:06.440]  For almost two months now, maybe no longer
[01:25:06.440 --> 01:25:09.440]  Okay, he's in Missouri?
[01:25:09.440 --> 01:25:12.440]  No, Texas
[01:25:12.440 --> 01:25:14.440]  Texas, okay
[01:25:14.440 --> 01:25:16.440]  That's why I called you
[01:25:16.440 --> 01:25:19.440]  Let's back up, let's get this straight down
[01:25:19.440 --> 01:25:22.440]  He was in a trailer
[01:25:22.440 --> 01:25:25.440]  Discharged the weapon
[01:25:25.440 --> 01:25:32.440]  How did the police or sheriff get to the traitor who called him?
[01:25:32.440 --> 01:25:36.440]  Okay, his wife at that time called
[01:25:36.440 --> 01:25:37.440]  Okay
[01:25:37.440 --> 01:25:50.440]  Did his wife accuse him of using the weapon essentially against her or someone with whom she was directly connected?
[01:25:50.440 --> 01:25:51.440]  Not that I know
[01:25:51.440 --> 01:25:54.440]  I have very vague information
[01:25:54.440 --> 01:25:55.440]  Okay, okay
[01:25:55.440 --> 01:25:56.440]  Let me explain
[01:25:56.440 --> 01:26:02.440]  What I'm looking for is domestic violence
[01:26:02.440 --> 01:26:12.440]  Yes, they have had issues among each other but I do not know if a police has been called for that in the past
[01:26:12.440 --> 01:26:19.440]  Okay, if they've had issues and he had a weapon and the weapon was discharged
[01:26:19.440 --> 01:26:22.440]  That's really serious business
[01:26:22.440 --> 01:26:26.440]  And he's been a known felon before in the past
[01:26:26.440 --> 01:26:33.440]  Whoa, known felon, weapon discharged, this guy's got a problem, not a great combination
[01:26:33.440 --> 01:26:40.440]  Yeah, I know, I knew that he really should actually let his son do time
[01:26:40.440 --> 01:26:43.440]  Okay, hold on, let me step back a second
[01:26:43.440 --> 01:26:49.440]  How close are you to this person?
[01:26:49.440 --> 01:26:54.440]  Okay, well, we played video games for the last nine years
[01:26:54.440 --> 01:27:01.440]  Okay, let me give you some wisdom of the ages
[01:27:01.440 --> 01:27:12.440]  I'm aged and I've had experience here and I'm going to tell you, people never tell you everything
[01:27:12.440 --> 01:27:19.440]  Now, I know, but this guy here, honestly, he's a straight up guy, honestly
[01:27:19.440 --> 01:27:26.440]  He has been straightforward with me, I've never been down there to review everything
[01:27:26.440 --> 01:27:32.440]  Okay, I don't want to be difficult, I don't want to be jaded
[01:27:32.440 --> 01:27:37.440]  But be careful what you step into
[01:27:37.440 --> 01:27:47.440]  Weapon discharged, potential family violence, this is an ugly business
[01:27:47.440 --> 01:27:56.440]  And people never tell you everything and they don't do it necessarily on purpose
[01:27:56.440 --> 01:28:10.440]  But if this person wants you to be on his side, he tells himself to give this guy a story that will encourage him to be on my side
[01:28:10.440 --> 01:28:22.440]  And when you do that, the brain tells the inner mind, bring up stuff to tell him that will make him want to be on our side
[01:28:22.440 --> 01:28:31.440]  So it doesn't bring up the stuff that you really need to know to understand what's going on
[01:28:31.440 --> 01:28:45.440]  When I hear weapon discharged, family, I get, holy crap, this gets ugly real fast
[01:28:45.440 --> 01:28:48.440]  He needs to tell you lots of details
[01:28:48.440 --> 01:28:53.440]  He's getting the information through his son, so he don't know, really
[01:28:53.440 --> 01:29:03.440]  Oh, okay, so this is not the person you're connected with, but someone that that person is connected with
[01:29:03.440 --> 01:29:05.440]  Right
[01:29:05.440 --> 01:29:10.440]  Oh, okay, so whatever this guy is, it's going to make a difference
[01:29:10.440 --> 01:29:13.440]  Okay, tell us about the son
[01:29:13.440 --> 01:29:17.440]  Give me a chance to tell you exactly who it is
[01:29:17.440 --> 01:29:24.440]  It's a military friend who's in his 70s, his son is the one who did the gun discharge
[01:29:24.440 --> 01:29:25.440]  Oh, okay
[01:29:25.440 --> 01:29:34.440]  He's just asking me if he can get a hold of like email y'all or, you know, Eddie or whatever
[01:29:34.440 --> 01:29:38.440]  To see what he can do to help his son
[01:29:38.440 --> 01:29:46.440]  Even though I explained to him his son has done what he should never have done and there's probably no chance to get him out
[01:29:46.440 --> 01:29:54.440]  No, maybe, maybe, maybe, but the first thing we need is the timeline
[01:29:54.440 --> 01:30:00.440]  And the reason I ask for a timeline and not a statement of facts is we want to know
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[01:34:21.440 --> 01:34:27.440]  Okay, we are back, Randy Tilton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio, and Steve
[01:34:27.440 --> 01:34:28.440]  Yes, sir
[01:34:28.440 --> 01:34:35.440]  I'm concerned that you're stepping into something
[01:34:35.440 --> 01:34:45.440]  And I'm not saying not to, but understand that people never tell you everything and it's not necessarily intentional
[01:34:45.440 --> 01:34:57.440]  If I want you to help me, I'm going to tell my inner mind, deliver up the information this guy needs that will give him reason to help me
[01:34:57.440 --> 01:35:03.440]  Your inner mind's not going to deliver up any of the bad stuff
[01:35:03.440 --> 01:35:15.440]  So it's your job, being outside the circumstances, being the third party, to be very, very careful
[01:35:15.440 --> 01:35:20.440]  And I'm not saying the other person lies to you
[01:35:20.440 --> 01:35:31.440]  I'm saying that the other person has directed their inner mind to deliver up information they need to give you reason to help them
[01:35:31.440 --> 01:35:37.440]  So while they may be hiding important information, they're not necessarily doing it on purpose
[01:35:37.440 --> 01:35:43.440]  And they're not necessarily consciously aware that they're doing it
[01:35:43.440 --> 01:35:51.440]  If you want to be of service to them, you have to be very careful
[01:35:51.440 --> 01:36:10.440]  So a friend of yours has a son who brandished a weapon in what appears to be a, what do you call it, family violence issue
[01:36:10.440 --> 01:36:13.440]  And discharged the weapon
[01:36:13.440 --> 01:36:24.440]  Was the weapon discharged into the ground innocuously or was it pointed at some person?
[01:36:24.440 --> 01:36:28.440]  It was never pointed at anybody
[01:36:28.440 --> 01:36:32.440]  He just shot up in the air because she was running her mouth
[01:36:32.440 --> 01:36:35.440]  That's what I get
[01:36:35.440 --> 01:36:39.440]  This is not good
[01:36:39.440 --> 01:36:43.440]  She's running her mouth, he shoots a gun in the air
[01:36:43.440 --> 01:36:47.440]  Well, I know, but this is all he can get from his son
[01:36:47.440 --> 01:36:53.440]  I already know about everything that you guys talked about on the radio show
[01:36:53.440 --> 01:37:02.440]  My concern is only, my involvement is to get him to go to the courthouse and pick up the documents and charges against him
[01:37:02.440 --> 01:37:06.440]  And I can't remember what documents he has to get in Texas
[01:37:06.440 --> 01:37:10.440]  And this is in Mesquite, Texas, I do believe
[01:37:10.440 --> 01:37:12.440]  Mesquite?
[01:37:12.440 --> 01:37:15.440]  Yeah, I do believe
[01:37:15.440 --> 01:37:22.440]  We could get Brett to go down there and involve himself in this
[01:37:22.440 --> 01:37:25.440]  Right, Brett?
[01:37:25.440 --> 01:37:28.440]  Right after you're telling me
[01:37:28.440 --> 01:37:30.440]  Okay, this is the vice
[01:37:30.440 --> 01:37:32.440]  Okay, Randy
[01:37:32.440 --> 01:37:36.440]  Okay, we're not trying to be difficult, I'm trying to say
[01:37:36.440 --> 01:37:41.440]  If you are to be of help to these guys
[01:37:41.440 --> 01:37:48.440]  They don't necessarily understand how to protect themselves
[01:37:48.440 --> 01:37:56.440]  You are a third-party party, you're outside the circumstance, you can be of great benefit to them
[01:37:56.440 --> 01:38:05.440]  I'm not accusing them of lying to you, prefabricating, people tend to tell what seems to be best for them
[01:38:05.440 --> 01:38:11.440]  If you're to be of great assistance to them, you have to be the arbitrator
[01:38:11.440 --> 01:38:19.440]  You have to be the anchor to bring them back to good judgment
[01:38:19.440 --> 01:38:26.440]  People in emotional circumstances sometimes act emotionally
[01:38:26.440 --> 01:38:34.440]  And most of the time when you act emotionally in intense circumstances, it's a bad idea
[01:38:34.440 --> 01:38:35.440]  Right
[01:38:35.440 --> 01:38:38.440]  And you could be their anchor
[01:38:38.440 --> 01:38:44.440]  You ask them to tell you what happened and then they start telling you and you say, wait a minute, wait a minute
[01:38:44.440 --> 01:38:47.440]  You left this out, you left that out
[01:38:47.440 --> 01:38:48.440]  Right
[01:38:48.440 --> 01:39:02.440]  It allows them to kind of reintegrate what really went on and helps them to find more, a more equitable outcome
[01:39:02.440 --> 01:39:06.440]  My concern is that you get caught up in what they're telling you
[01:39:06.440 --> 01:39:11.440]  And you believe that what they're telling you is all exactly what happened
[01:39:11.440 --> 01:39:18.440]  Most of the part time when someone's in a really emotionally charged situation, they don't know what happened
[01:39:18.440 --> 01:39:21.440]  They only know how they responded to what happened
[01:39:21.440 --> 01:39:28.440]  And it's your job to push them beyond their emotional responses
[01:39:28.440 --> 01:39:34.440]  And when I do this, you'll hear me on the show ask for a timeline
[01:39:34.440 --> 01:39:35.440]  I know
[01:39:35.440 --> 01:39:39.440]  Timeline is a trick
[01:39:39.440 --> 01:39:47.440]  It's to get them to step outside the emotional content and go back to the details
[01:39:47.440 --> 01:39:56.440]  So you want to ask them questions about things that they don't think are important
[01:39:56.440 --> 01:39:59.440]  And they may not be important, it doesn't matter
[01:39:59.440 --> 01:40:05.440]  But what that does to them when they're in a highly charged emotional circumstance
[01:40:05.440 --> 01:40:11.440]  And you ask them a question that they have no idea why you're asking this question
[01:40:11.440 --> 01:40:15.440]  That tends to act as a pattern interruption
[01:40:15.440 --> 01:40:19.440]  They get into the emotional circumstance
[01:40:19.440 --> 01:40:24.440]  And then you ask them an oddball question and they say, what?
[01:40:24.440 --> 01:40:31.440]  And they stop and they have to back out and examine it from a somewhat different perspective
[01:40:31.440 --> 01:40:33.440]  Does that make sense?
[01:40:33.440 --> 01:40:34.440]  Yes
[01:40:34.440 --> 01:40:36.440]  I understand, Randy
[01:40:36.440 --> 01:40:38.440]  Believe me, I have thought this through
[01:40:38.440 --> 01:40:45.440]  That's why I waited over a month before I even called in to try to figure out the best route to go
[01:40:45.440 --> 01:40:51.440]  The documents that you're looking for, they need to go to the court clerk
[01:40:51.440 --> 01:40:58.440]  Wherever the court is that he's got some issues in whatever court, go to that court clerk
[01:40:58.440 --> 01:41:05.440]  If it's Mesquite City or if it's a county thing, whatever, he needs to go to that court clerk
[01:41:05.440 --> 01:41:08.440]  And ask to see the record
[01:41:08.440 --> 01:41:10.440]  Sometimes they call it the file
[01:41:10.440 --> 01:41:16.440]  But it's just a folder they've got for everything that's been put into that particular case
[01:41:16.440 --> 01:41:22.440]  And if he hasn't filed anything, then the only thing that's in there is going to be from the prosecutor, the opposing counsel
[01:41:22.440 --> 01:41:30.440]  So they can stand right there at the counter and they'll just push it across and you just look at it
[01:41:30.440 --> 01:41:34.440]  Or you see in there, hey, there's no charging instrument in here
[01:41:34.440 --> 01:41:40.440]  You don't need to tell them that, you just say, will you please give me a certified copy of this record?
[01:41:40.440 --> 01:41:48.440]  They'll charge you a buck for a page and you'll have your certified copy
[01:41:48.440 --> 01:41:53.440]  That way as of such and such a date, there was no charging instrument in there
[01:41:53.440 --> 01:42:01.440]  And they'll tack on a little page at the end that says this is a true, accurate, and complete copy of the record
[01:42:01.440 --> 01:42:05.440]  And they'll sign it or stamp it, the court clerk will
[01:42:05.440 --> 01:42:11.440]  That gives you a snapshot of what are the charges
[01:42:11.440 --> 01:42:15.440]  You can go from there, go ahead
[01:42:15.440 --> 01:42:23.440]  We're not saying that these guys are misrepresenting the truth to you
[01:42:23.440 --> 01:42:29.440]  They experience what occurred from their perspective
[01:42:29.440 --> 01:42:34.440]  From the emotional content of the moment as it related to them
[01:42:34.440 --> 01:42:38.440]  They don't necessarily know what really happened
[01:42:38.440 --> 01:42:45.440]  And if you listen to the show a lot, you'll see sometimes we take people and re-walk them back through their circumstances
[01:42:45.440 --> 01:42:51.440]  And they come up with insights and understandings that they weren't able to come up with on their own
[01:42:51.440 --> 01:42:59.440]  Because they didn't have a third party to stick their finger in the middle of their passion
[01:42:59.440 --> 01:43:05.440]  And break it apart so they could go back to what really happened
[01:43:05.440 --> 01:43:11.440]  It may be that you're not necessarily looking for specific details
[01:43:11.440 --> 01:43:20.440]  But you're working to help this other person go inside and find out what really happened
[01:43:20.440 --> 01:43:23.440]  I hope this makes sense
[01:43:23.440 --> 01:43:29.440]  You're concerning me because this sounds like it's really serious
[01:43:29.440 --> 01:43:38.440]  Yes, and Randy, I already know, he's admit, he don't trust what his son has told him
[01:43:38.440 --> 01:43:43.440]  But I'm just doing this to get the record or file, like I said
[01:43:43.440 --> 01:43:48.440]  And give him a head start of what really is being brought against him
[01:43:48.440 --> 01:43:51.440]  Okay, hang on, we've got ten seconds
[01:43:51.440 --> 01:43:54.440]  So if you want the record, we'll address that when we come back
[01:43:54.440 --> 01:44:00.440]  Randy Cohen, Brett Fountain, Lula La Radio, we'll be right back
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[01:44:23.440 --> 01:44:27.440]  I'm going to throw away these yucky cookies in the trash
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[01:46:22.440 --> 01:46:27.440]  Some things in this world I will never understand
[01:46:27.440 --> 01:46:31.440]  Some things I realize foolish
[01:46:31.440 --> 01:46:35.440]  Somebody's gonna police that policeman
[01:46:35.440 --> 01:46:39.440]  Somebody's gonna police the police
[01:46:39.440 --> 01:46:44.440]  There's always a room at the top of the hill
[01:46:44.440 --> 01:46:49.440]  I hear things are grave-mine and it's lonely there, too
[01:46:49.440 --> 01:46:53.440]  They're wishing it was more than I position the bill
[01:46:53.440 --> 01:46:57.440]  They know that if they don't do it, somebody will
[01:46:57.440 --> 01:47:01.440]  Some things in this world I will never understand
[01:47:01.440 --> 01:47:05.440]  Some things I realize foolish
[01:47:05.440 --> 01:47:10.440]  Somebody's gonna police that policeman
[01:47:10.440 --> 01:47:13.440]  Somebody's gonna police the police
[01:47:13.440 --> 01:47:16.440]  I know they will
[01:47:16.440 --> 01:47:19.440]  Yeah, they're gonna put the bill
[01:47:19.440 --> 01:47:22.440]  Because I see so much in God's detail
[01:47:22.440 --> 01:47:24.440]  I know they will
[01:47:24.440 --> 01:47:26.440]  I'll never fail to tip back that scale
[01:47:26.440 --> 01:47:28.440]  I know they will
[01:47:28.440 --> 01:47:31.440]  I'll never fail to tip back that scale
[01:47:31.440 --> 01:47:33.440]  I know they will
[01:47:35.440 --> 01:47:42.440]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio, and we're into our last segment
[01:47:42.440 --> 01:47:49.440]  Ted, I didn't take you because you're going to be complex
[01:47:49.440 --> 01:47:51.440]  and I want to give you time
[01:47:51.440 --> 01:47:56.440]  If you will call back tomorrow night, I will take you ahead of everyone else
[01:47:56.440 --> 01:48:00.440]  because I definitely want to hear what's going on with you
[01:48:00.440 --> 01:48:04.440]  Dwayne in Texas, I apologize for not getting to you
[01:48:04.440 --> 01:48:09.440]  but if you'll call back tomorrow night, I'll put you right after Ted
[01:48:09.440 --> 01:48:16.440]  We're talking to Ellis, and this is Stephen Ellis, I guess it's Stephen
[01:48:16.440 --> 01:48:27.440]  and I'm concerned here because we have someone who's trying to help a friend who's trying to help his son
[01:48:27.440 --> 01:48:32.440]  So this is a double disassociation
[01:48:32.440 --> 01:48:39.440]  and we can be very powerful at this level of disassociation
[01:48:39.440 --> 01:48:53.440]  so long as we don't get drawn in to believe everything we're hearing
[01:48:53.440 --> 01:48:59.440]  Yes, some kind of downward spiral that sucks up all your time until eventually you find out what the truth is
[01:48:59.440 --> 01:49:04.440]  Yes, seduced is the word I was looking for
[01:49:04.440 --> 01:49:11.440]  Stephen, you're trying to help a friend and your friend is trying to help his son
[01:49:11.440 --> 01:49:18.440]  so you're in a position to do what we call meta-comments
[01:49:18.440 --> 01:49:24.440]  you can keep outside the emotion and the pathos of things
[01:49:24.440 --> 01:49:34.440]  and talk to the father in a way to get him to ask penetrating questions of the son
[01:49:34.440 --> 01:49:40.440]  that aren't necessarily designed to extract information
[01:49:40.440 --> 01:49:50.440]  but to force the individual to face facts and issues that they may not want to face
[01:49:50.440 --> 01:49:53.440]  Does that make sense Stephen?
[01:49:53.440 --> 01:49:58.440]  I know exactly what you mean by it
[01:49:58.440 --> 01:50:06.440]  and I do not want to have my good friend upset with me when he has to face the truth about the situation
[01:50:06.440 --> 01:50:08.440]  Okay, I have a question for you
[01:50:08.440 --> 01:50:10.440]  Be very cautious about it
[01:50:10.440 --> 01:50:14.440]  How good a friend is he?
[01:50:14.440 --> 01:50:19.440]  Actually, I don't know him personally
[01:50:19.440 --> 01:50:23.440]  You're talking about not the son but the friend
[01:50:23.440 --> 01:50:28.440]  Are you willing to have him angry at you for the rest of his life
[01:50:28.440 --> 01:50:36.440]  by doing what you in your heart believe is the best thing for him?
[01:50:36.440 --> 01:50:41.440]  If it is for the best thing for him at his age, yeah, absolutely
[01:50:41.440 --> 01:50:45.440]  I was going to say if you said no, then get the hell away from it
[01:50:45.440 --> 01:50:49.440]  I have people that won't talk to me anymore
[01:50:49.440 --> 01:50:53.440]  They're angry at me and think I'm a no good SOB
[01:50:53.440 --> 01:50:55.440]  but I have no problem with that
[01:50:55.440 --> 01:51:03.440]  because I did what in my heart I believed was right and best for them whether they liked me or not
[01:51:03.440 --> 01:51:07.440]  If you are willing to take that position to help this guy
[01:51:07.440 --> 01:51:10.440]  you are probably the best friend he has
[01:51:10.440 --> 01:51:14.440]  and he doesn't know it and it doesn't matter if he knows it
[01:51:14.440 --> 01:51:16.440]  That's what he felt for me about the whole situation
[01:51:16.440 --> 01:51:20.440]  and nobody else he knew for a lot longer time
[01:51:20.440 --> 01:51:25.440]  Yeah, and these are the kind of friends that are best
[01:51:25.440 --> 01:51:29.440]  The ones that don't need acclamation, that don't need verification
[01:51:29.440 --> 01:51:33.440]  that will do the best thing for the right reason
[01:51:33.440 --> 01:51:36.440]  regardless of the consequences
[01:51:36.440 --> 01:51:40.440]  and that's what I have been addressing this whole time
[01:51:40.440 --> 01:51:46.440]  The son has issues and the father is trying to help the son with these issues
[01:51:46.440 --> 01:51:50.440]  and you're trying to help the father help the son with these issues
[01:51:50.440 --> 01:51:52.440]  Did I get this right?
[01:51:52.440 --> 01:51:56.440]  And that son has been issues for that father for a long time
[01:51:56.440 --> 01:51:59.440]  which makes it even worse for him
[01:51:59.440 --> 01:52:05.440]  Yeah, how does the son and father, how do they get along?
[01:52:05.440 --> 01:52:09.440]  The last couple of years they were getting along
[01:52:09.440 --> 01:52:11.440]  That's all I know
[01:52:11.440 --> 01:52:15.440]  I don't know any previous history because of what he told me about his troubles
[01:52:15.440 --> 01:52:16.440]  That's all I know
[01:52:16.440 --> 01:52:20.440]  How old is the son?
[01:52:20.440 --> 01:52:25.440]  I do believe he's in his fifties
[01:52:25.440 --> 01:52:28.440]  Wait, I missed that, say that again
[01:52:28.440 --> 01:52:33.440]  I do believe he is in his fifties
[01:52:33.440 --> 01:52:36.440]  The son is in his fifties?
[01:52:36.440 --> 01:52:41.440]  The father is an old military man, Navy SEAL
[01:52:41.440 --> 01:52:45.440]  He's 76 years old
[01:52:45.440 --> 01:52:49.440]  Hey, hey, hey, hey, that's not so old
[01:52:49.440 --> 01:52:51.440]  I'm just telling you, you know
[01:52:51.440 --> 01:52:59.440]  Okay, okay, okay, maybe I'm prejudiced because I got dirt in my front yard that's not as old as I am
[01:52:59.440 --> 01:53:04.440]  Okay, so the father is a Navy SEAL
[01:53:04.440 --> 01:53:05.440]  Yeah
[01:53:05.440 --> 01:53:08.440]  He may be still with the military
[01:53:08.440 --> 01:53:14.440]  Yeah, okay, and I'm a veteran so I appreciate, especially made Navy SEALs
[01:53:14.440 --> 01:53:17.440]  Special Forces Disguiser
[01:53:17.440 --> 01:53:20.440]  Different breed
[01:53:20.440 --> 01:53:21.440]  Yeah
[01:53:21.440 --> 01:53:23.440]  The son is in his fifties
[01:53:23.440 --> 01:53:27.440]  Randy, he has been straightforward with everything he knows
[01:53:27.440 --> 01:53:29.440]  which he don't know much and nothing
[01:53:29.440 --> 01:53:32.440]  So I'm trying to guide him to find out the information
[01:53:32.440 --> 01:53:37.440]  and give him an idea of what he can do about the situation
[01:53:37.440 --> 01:53:38.440]  Okay
[01:53:38.440 --> 01:53:41.440]  And then guide him to, hey, this, you know, your son screwed up
[01:53:41.440 --> 01:53:46.440]  You know, there's really no way you can fight it because of what he's done
[01:53:46.440 --> 01:53:51.440]  But do it in a way where he don't get too much emotions tied into it
[01:53:51.440 --> 01:53:56.440]  Okay, okay, he's a SEAL, he knows how to do this
[01:53:56.440 --> 01:53:57.440]  Yeah
[01:53:57.440 --> 01:54:00.440]  He doesn't have to, his son doesn't always have to be right
[01:54:00.440 --> 01:54:06.440]  His son can screw up, but the father still is on his side
[01:54:06.440 --> 01:54:13.440]  And he's a SEAL, he can help his son
[01:54:13.440 --> 01:54:17.440]  But first he has to extract good information
[01:54:17.440 --> 01:54:21.440]  Does the son have a drug issue?
[01:54:21.440 --> 01:54:24.440]  I do believe so
[01:54:24.440 --> 01:54:27.440]  Oh, that changes everything
[01:54:27.440 --> 01:54:31.440]  I know, he went through rehab, he has not relapsed as far as I know
[01:54:31.440 --> 01:54:33.440]  So like I said, I'm getting it through him
[01:54:33.440 --> 01:54:37.440]  But he don't get the creeps from his son, I'm pretty sure he doesn't
[01:54:37.440 --> 01:54:38.440]  Right
[01:54:38.440 --> 01:54:40.440]  So I'm very confident in that part
[01:54:40.440 --> 01:54:50.440]  So probably the best you can do for this guy is to forget his son for now
[01:54:50.440 --> 01:54:59.440]  And help this guy to understand that his son is not necessarily always rational
[01:54:59.440 --> 01:55:08.440]  And ask him if he could look at his son objectively
[01:55:08.440 --> 01:55:16.440]  If the son pulled a weapon on a strange spouse and discharged the weapon
[01:55:16.440 --> 01:55:19.440]  That is a really, really big deal
[01:55:19.440 --> 01:55:27.440]  This guy's a Navy SEAL, he understands what it's like to be on the sharp end of those things
[01:55:27.440 --> 01:55:29.440]  You know, I don't own a weapon
[01:55:29.440 --> 01:55:37.440]  When you say a strange spouse, do you mean one that don't live with him?
[01:55:37.440 --> 01:55:40.440]  Wait, say that again
[01:55:40.440 --> 01:55:45.440]  When you say a strange spouse, the lady lives with him
[01:55:45.440 --> 01:55:48.440]  Is that what you mean as a strange?
[01:55:48.440 --> 01:55:52.440]  No, it doesn't necessarily mean that they're together or not together
[01:55:52.440 --> 01:55:55.440]  Just that they're at odds with each other
[01:55:55.440 --> 01:55:58.440]  Okay, got it
[01:55:58.440 --> 01:56:07.440]  If the son has a drug issue, unfortunately that is very difficult
[01:56:07.440 --> 01:56:14.440]  But he has a father who's, if he's an ex-SEAL, he has a level of sophistication
[01:56:14.440 --> 01:56:16.440]  That he may be able to help his son
[01:56:16.440 --> 01:56:21.440]  You need to stop focusing on the son, focus on the father
[01:56:21.440 --> 01:56:23.440]  Right
[01:56:23.440 --> 01:56:33.440]  Because whatever happens to the father, the son, the father's going to blame himself for it
[01:56:33.440 --> 01:56:42.440]  If you can help the father get himself centered, the father will help the son
[01:56:42.440 --> 01:56:49.440]  What does the father feel? Does he blame himself for his son's behavior?
[01:56:49.440 --> 01:56:52.440]  Nope, not one least bit
[01:56:52.440 --> 01:57:00.440]  He knows that he is a screw up, but he's trying to get him out if possible
[01:57:00.440 --> 01:57:05.440]  Because he hasn't had the opportunity to be even heard about the case
[01:57:05.440 --> 01:57:08.440]  What really happened?
[01:57:08.440 --> 01:57:13.440]  Okay, I'm going to go back to what I suggest in every case
[01:57:13.440 --> 01:57:24.440]  Ask your friend to ask the son if he can put together a timeline
[01:57:24.440 --> 01:57:30.440]  A timeline is incredibly, it sounds easy, but it's incredibly difficult to produce
[01:57:30.440 --> 01:57:36.440]  And you forget a lot of things in between
[01:57:36.440 --> 01:57:38.440]  Yeah, that's what we do
[01:57:38.440 --> 01:57:43.440]  So we create a timeline, and then we go back two days later and look at it again
[01:57:43.440 --> 01:57:48.440]  We start filling in pieces, and then we go back a couple days later and fill in pieces
[01:57:48.440 --> 01:57:59.440]  If the son has lied to him, the lies will just leap out from the timeline
[01:57:59.440 --> 01:58:07.440]  And if the son cannot create an effective timeline, his father's not going to be able to help him
[01:58:07.440 --> 01:58:10.440]  Pretty much nobody would, not even himself
[01:58:10.440 --> 01:58:13.440]  You've got to have good notes of what happened and when
[01:58:13.440 --> 01:58:16.440]  You have to be able to be honest with yourself
[01:58:16.440 --> 01:58:22.440]  If this guy can't, his father's fighting a battle he can't win
[01:58:22.440 --> 01:58:26.440]  Right, so my quick question before you end
[01:58:26.440 --> 01:58:29.440]  Should I have him go ahead and get that record certified copy?
[01:58:29.440 --> 01:58:34.440]  Absolutely, you don't know anything until you've seen the record
[01:58:34.440 --> 01:58:35.440]  Right
[01:58:35.440 --> 01:58:38.440]  We are out of time, get the record, call us in tomorrow night
[01:58:38.440 --> 01:58:42.440]  I'd like to explore this place, this is an interesting conundrum
[01:58:42.440 --> 01:58:44.440]  Thank you all for listening
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