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[00:41.680 --> 00:52.440]  Today in history, the year 1916, the Preparedness Day bombing, a Thai suitcase bomb, was detonated
[00:52.440 --> 00:57.760]  on Market Street in San Francisco during the World War I Preparedness Day Parade, killing
[00:57.760 --> 01:04.760]  10 and injuring 40.
[01:04.760 --> 01:09.440]  And recent news, since Governor Greg Abbott signed House Bill 1325 legalizing Hemp into
[01:09.440 --> 01:14.240]  Texas law back in June, county prosecutors around the state including Houston, Austin,
[01:14.240 --> 01:18.080]  and San Antonio have been dropping marijuana possession charges and even refusing to file
[01:18.080 --> 01:22.720]  new ones since they are stipulating that they do not have the time or the laboratory equipment
[01:22.720 --> 01:24.720]  to test the herb for THC.
[01:24.720 --> 01:28.440]  Margaret Moore, the Travis County District Attorney, announced earlier this month that
[01:28.440 --> 01:33.240]  she was dismissing 32 felony possession and delivery of marijuana cases because of the
[01:33.240 --> 01:34.240]  law.
[01:34.240 --> 01:37.600]  Mr. Abbott and other state officials, including the Attorney General, stipulated in a letter
[01:37.600 --> 01:42.120]  that county district attorneys back on Thursday that marijuana has not been decriminalized
[01:42.120 --> 01:48.280]  in Texas and that these actions demonstrate a misunderstanding of how HB1325 works, as
[01:48.280 --> 01:51.240]  well as other cities too like the District Attorney.
[01:51.240 --> 01:57.280]  In El Paso, Kyma Esparza, a Democrat who also stated earlier this month that the law quote
[01:57.280 --> 02:01.760]  will not have an effect on the prosecution of marijuana cases in El Paso.
[02:01.760 --> 02:06.760]  However, the issue was succinctly summarized by Mr. Brandon Ball, an assistant public defender
[02:06.760 --> 02:11.240]  in Harris County who stated that quote, the law is constantly changing on what makes something
[02:11.240 --> 02:13.480]  illegal based on its chemical makeup.
[02:13.480 --> 02:17.360]  It's important that if someone is charged with something, the test matches what they're
[02:17.360 --> 02:22.600]  charged with.
[02:22.600 --> 02:27.440]  A paper by Tulane University identified a five and a half inch American pocket shark.
[02:27.440 --> 02:32.360]  As the first of its kind in the Gulf of Mexico, the specimen being only the second pocket
[02:32.360 --> 02:38.000]  shark ever captured or recorded with the other one being found way back in 1979 in the East
[02:38.000 --> 02:39.500]  Pacific Ocean.
[02:39.500 --> 02:43.800]  According to the university paper, the shark secretes a luminous fluid from a gland near
[02:43.800 --> 02:50.080]  its front fins for the purpose it is hypothesized to lure and prey who may be drawn into the
[02:50.080 --> 03:16.920]  clove.
[03:16.920 --> 03:34.800]  The person to blame that it will not beprove your
[03:34.800 --> 03:38.800]  The pathway seems to get straighter every day
[03:38.800 --> 03:42.800]  And I can take anything that belongs to me
[03:42.800 --> 03:45.800]  And put it to good use
[03:45.800 --> 03:48.800]  But I was good for the gender
[03:48.800 --> 03:52.800]  I'm gonna work for the good
[03:52.800 --> 03:56.800]  I know some architects
[03:56.800 --> 04:00.800]  I know some engineers
[04:00.800 --> 04:04.800]  They've seen the evidence
[04:04.800 --> 04:07.800]  They know 17th grade
[04:07.800 --> 04:11.800]  Okay, we are back. Brandy Calton, Brett Fountain, Willow Law Radio
[04:11.800 --> 04:15.800]  On this, the...
[04:15.800 --> 04:17.800]  What day is it, Brett?
[04:17.800 --> 04:23.800]  It's the 14th day of May, 2021
[04:23.800 --> 04:25.800]  I think we must have passed January already
[04:25.800 --> 04:29.800]  When you get my age, all these numbers just run together
[04:29.800 --> 04:33.800]  Okay, one thing we were discussing on the break
[04:33.800 --> 04:36.800]  We are the producers
[04:36.800 --> 04:38.800]  We're not broadcasters
[04:38.800 --> 04:40.800]  We produce the stream
[04:40.800 --> 04:44.800]  And we make our stream available to anyone
[04:44.800 --> 04:47.800]  For free, anyone can pull our stream
[04:47.800 --> 04:53.800]  And there are a number of stations around the country that pull our stream and re-broadcast
[04:53.800 --> 04:56.800]  Some we know about, some we don't
[04:56.800 --> 05:00.800]  And I'm regularly getting people to ask me
[05:00.800 --> 05:02.800]  How many listeners do you have?
[05:02.800 --> 05:05.800]  And I have to tell them, I have no idea
[05:05.800 --> 05:09.800]  So, I was thinking
[05:09.800 --> 05:12.800]  Anybody who's listening, who's willing to
[05:12.800 --> 05:17.800]  Send us an email to either Randy at WillowLawRadio.com
[05:17.800 --> 05:21.800]  Or Debra at RiverRadio.com
[05:21.800 --> 05:25.800]  And say, I'm listening and nothing else, that's enough
[05:25.800 --> 05:32.800]  So we can kind of do an audit to find out how many people are actually listening to us
[05:32.800 --> 05:38.800]  Brett and I, we sit before this microphone
[05:38.800 --> 05:43.800]  We can't see our listeners, we don't know who's listening to us
[05:43.800 --> 05:46.800]  So we just have to kind of guess at it
[05:46.800 --> 05:50.800]  And it's kind of frustrating after all these years
[05:50.800 --> 05:53.800]  Not knowing how many people are listening to us
[05:53.800 --> 05:57.800]  And not being able to tell somebody when they ask us how many listeners we have
[05:57.800 --> 06:01.800]  Especially when we try to get sponsors, they want to know how many listeners we have
[06:01.800 --> 06:03.800]  But we have no way of knowing
[06:03.800 --> 06:07.800]  So if you're up to it, send us an email, Randy at RiverLawRadio.com
[06:07.800 --> 06:11.800]  Or Debra at RiverLawRadio.com
[06:11.800 --> 06:16.800]  I would give you Eddie, but we just like to pick on Eddie
[06:16.800 --> 06:20.800]  Okay, Eddie at RiverLawRadio.com
[06:20.800 --> 06:26.800]  And let us know how many, just give us an idea of how many listeners we actually have
[06:26.800 --> 06:30.800]  Okay, we're finishing up with Brett and
[06:30.800 --> 06:34.800]  Oh no, we're done with Brett, we're going to Tina
[06:34.800 --> 06:39.800]  Brett, can you drop off and listen on the listener line
[06:39.800 --> 06:44.800]  Or we have txlr.
[06:44.800 --> 06:47.800]  What is it, Brett?
[06:47.800 --> 06:52.800]  Yeah, txlr.net
[06:52.800 --> 06:56.800]  Yeah, tx is Liberty Radio.net
[06:56.800 --> 07:01.800]  They stream us, you can click on that, you can listen to us live
[07:01.800 --> 07:06.800]  Because we only have four slots on the board, so we may have to get filled up, nobody can call in
[07:06.800 --> 07:10.800]  Okay, back to Tina in California
[07:10.800 --> 07:14.800]  Okay, Tina, I got distracted
[07:14.800 --> 07:18.800]  You did, but that's not unusual
[07:18.800 --> 07:22.800]  I have to give you a hard time, Randy
[07:22.800 --> 07:26.800]  Now you sound like my wife
[07:26.800 --> 07:30.800]  No, no, she really adores me
[07:30.800 --> 07:35.800]  The fact that the ringer on her phone for me is a jackass burden
[07:35.800 --> 07:38.800]  That doesn't mean anything
[07:38.800 --> 07:43.800]  No, no, no, it doesn't, no, no, I'm sure it doesn't
[07:43.800 --> 07:46.800]  Anyway, it's been very interesting listening tonight
[07:46.800 --> 07:50.800]  And you were talking earlier about bullying, you know, people
[07:50.800 --> 07:55.800]  That bully, you know, public officials and attorneys and all that
[07:55.800 --> 07:59.800]  And this is a prime example I'm dealing with right now
[07:59.800 --> 08:05.800]  And, you know, the helpline, the VK court said, you know, we see a lot of this
[08:05.800 --> 08:08.800]  Especially with prosailiticans
[08:08.800 --> 08:20.800]  He said, this particular judge is very keen on making sure both parties, you know, produce discovery
[08:20.800 --> 08:23.800]  And cooperate and do all this
[08:23.800 --> 08:27.800]  And this attorney just said, my client sticks by her answers
[08:27.800 --> 08:30.800]  Which, I mean, she's contradicted herself so many times
[08:30.800 --> 08:35.800]  If she sticks by her answers, we can just, you know, cross-examine her with that
[08:35.800 --> 08:38.800]  And so that's why I filed a motion to compel
[08:38.800 --> 08:42.800]  And I've got to figure out what's statutorily wrong
[08:42.800 --> 08:46.800]  But I, you know, I've got someone looking at it
[08:46.800 --> 08:50.800]  But I'm not, you know, I'm not worried if he wants to file his answer
[08:50.800 --> 08:54.800]  And, you know, try to ask for attorney fees, go right ahead
[08:54.800 --> 08:58.800]  You know, I mean, just, I'm planning
[08:58.800 --> 09:06.800]  As this one attorney said, helpline, he said, the judge cannot see
[09:06.800 --> 09:10.800]  And, you know, I answer on anything that's not unfile
[09:10.800 --> 09:18.800]  He said, could I ask him if I should put this bullying attorney's emails into a declaration
[09:18.800 --> 09:20.800]  In support of something
[09:20.800 --> 09:29.800]  And he said, I would suggest you should because if you bring it up at the status conference hearing
[09:29.800 --> 09:33.800]  Then she's blindsided, she doesn't have time
[09:33.800 --> 09:40.800]  If she sees it on record, then she has a chance to think about it and address it
[09:40.800 --> 09:45.800]  He said, so anything that's on the record and that is filed in the court
[09:45.800 --> 09:48.800]  The judge can look at and rule on
[09:48.800 --> 09:54.800]  Okay, wait, wait, wait, let me, let me make sure I understand what he's saying
[09:54.800 --> 09:59.800]  Are you saying you can bushwhack the lawyer?
[09:59.800 --> 10:01.800]  Yes, pretty much
[10:01.800 --> 10:06.800]  Because this particular attorney that's on this helpline hates this attorney
[10:06.800 --> 10:13.800]  Because he absolutely bushwhacked one of his senior citizen female clients
[10:13.800 --> 10:17.800]  And he's never forgotten how he was abusive to her
[10:17.800 --> 10:26.800]  And he said, I've seen him be abusive to other elderly clients, particularly women
[10:26.800 --> 10:32.800]  And this goes to our case which has two guys and two women on
[10:32.800 --> 10:35.800]  And he talks completely different to the man
[10:35.800 --> 10:42.800]  And one of them has just realized he said, I'm seeing how he treats you, girl, different to us
[10:42.800 --> 10:44.800]  And he speaks differently
[10:44.800 --> 10:50.800]  And he won't negotiate with us about a settlement, but he will with the guys
[10:50.800 --> 11:01.800]  And so this attorney said, you know, the judges see this, he said, you need to, I can't give you this legal advice on this particular call
[11:01.800 --> 11:06.800]  But he said, if it's on record, the judge can look at it
[11:06.800 --> 11:14.800]  And bring it up at the last minute on the status conference hearing, it's harder for her to deal with it
[11:14.800 --> 11:18.800]  Oh, I like this lawyer
[11:18.800 --> 11:22.800]  Yes, I do
[11:22.800 --> 11:34.800]  So I'm getting ready to put a declaration in place and submit our joint status conference with that in support of the status conference hearing
[11:34.800 --> 11:40.800]  And I will just put that, you know, I mean, the other lady is ready to just quit
[11:40.800 --> 11:46.800]  She said, I can't deal with this bullying, I've never been bullied like this, I don't want to be in a case like this
[11:46.800 --> 11:50.800]  I will give up everything because stress is too much
[11:50.800 --> 12:01.800]  And, you know, I can't convince her that, you know, the judge has the authority to deny or apply his claims
[12:01.800 --> 12:09.800]  And I said, if you think about what she was like before with us, she gave us a little advice, she extended discovery for 60 days
[12:09.800 --> 12:13.800]  And I think it's because she recognized what this attorney was doing
[12:13.800 --> 12:20.800]  But they're terrified that he's going to ask for attorney fees and that they will be granted
[12:20.800 --> 12:23.800]  And two of them are still available
[12:23.800 --> 12:29.800]  Can you get these people to listen into the show?
[12:29.800 --> 12:38.800]  I've tried, it's doubtful, but I can try again
[12:38.800 --> 12:42.800]  I think we could give them a different perspective
[12:42.800 --> 12:47.800]  I think you could too, I've told them that I come on here and I've learned a lot
[12:47.800 --> 12:58.800]  And this attorney doesn't, he hates me because he lost the last time when he had a client that, you know, committed a projury in a bankruptcy hearing that I was in
[12:58.800 --> 13:04.800]  And he's, you know, I'm not afraid of him. He can do whatever he wants on Monday
[13:04.800 --> 13:15.800]  I plan to, if I file an amended motion to compel, then the courts may just put the status conference hearing out
[13:15.800 --> 13:20.800]  They already moved the one that was due for June 8th to June 22nd
[13:20.800 --> 13:26.800]  They granted me a motion, a hearing on the motion to compel, which is June the 22nd
[13:26.800 --> 13:31.800]  And they said, well, what about the status conference saying, oh, we've moved that too
[13:31.800 --> 13:43.800]  You need to file a hearing, you know, for a notice of hearing to the courts and to the other side, which I'm trying to find the correct form for that
[13:43.800 --> 13:53.800]  But he has just really determined that if we don't all, you know, or the two guys don't tell him what their damages are
[13:53.800 --> 13:58.800]  That he's saying the court, the judge is going to be, look at you like it's awful
[13:58.800 --> 14:05.800]  She's going to be really upsetting you because you're refusing to settle when we're offering to
[14:05.800 --> 14:11.800]  And you have to do everything individually, you can't put in a joint settlement
[14:11.800 --> 14:17.800]  But the two attorneys I've spoken to said, you don't have to settle, you can put in a joint one
[14:17.800 --> 14:27.800]  He's just, you know, said he can ask, but it's not mandatory that you each individually give your damages
[14:27.800 --> 14:33.800]  Let me make a comment about corrupt judges
[14:33.800 --> 14:37.800]  Judges are not universally corrupt
[14:37.800 --> 14:48.800]  But it appears as though the judges in California as concerns for closure issues have been bought and paid for
[14:48.800 --> 15:05.800]  But when it concerns other issues that doesn't involve a client with megabucks, then the judge can actually rule more independently
[15:05.800 --> 15:10.800]  And at the end of the day, the judge is a human being
[15:10.800 --> 15:18.800]  They have the families, they have friends, they have properties, they have all the things you have
[15:18.800 --> 15:27.800]  And their passions will resonate with your passions
[15:27.800 --> 15:29.800]  Okay
[15:29.800 --> 15:36.800]  In this case where it doesn't involve a mortgage company that's paid off the judges
[15:36.800 --> 15:44.800]  Now the judges are in a position to where they can rule fairly or at least somewhat more fairly
[15:44.800 --> 15:51.800]  And it's just a matter of invoking their jurisdiction correctly
[15:51.800 --> 16:00.800]  Yeah, this judge is a female judge, so I don't think she's going to take too kindly to his bullying the two female plaintiffs
[16:00.800 --> 16:05.800]  So, and she's been very helpful before
[16:05.800 --> 16:16.800]  And the other attorney, you know, the helpline said she's a very fair judge and she's very even tempered
[16:16.800 --> 16:21.800]  And she does not like bullying, so I think that's a good thing
[16:21.800 --> 16:34.800]  And the district attorney's office who is going to be charging this defendant with friends is also potentially going to add what is it called?
[16:34.800 --> 16:41.800]  Elder abuse charges because most of the people are elderly
[16:41.800 --> 16:43.800]  Oh, wonderful
[16:43.800 --> 16:48.800]  I don't get much from being old, but I do get that one
[16:48.800 --> 16:54.800]  Okay, hang on, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rural Law Radio
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[19:14.800 --> 19:16.800]  Only the father can do it by you
[19:16.800 --> 19:19.800]  Well don't let bad mind people hurt you
[19:19.800 --> 19:23.800]  Until it's ungetting behind you
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[19:31.800 --> 19:34.800]  Telling your problem then
[19:34.800 --> 19:37.800]  Call and his name once again
[19:37.800 --> 19:40.800]  Give it all you know he was saying
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[19:43.800 --> 19:46.800]  Telling your problem then
[19:46.800 --> 19:48.800]  Call and his name once again
[19:48.800 --> 19:51.800]  Give it all you know he was saying
[19:51.800 --> 19:54.800]  He am making money isn't everything
[19:54.800 --> 19:58.800]  Okay we are back Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rural Law Radio
[19:58.800 --> 20:00.800]  and we're talking to Tina in California
[20:00.800 --> 20:02.800]  Okay Tina
[20:02.800 --> 20:08.800]  Yeah so one of the things that the other lady you know in the case she talked to an attorney
[20:08.800 --> 20:12.800]  said well he doesn't think we should bring this up about the other attorney
[20:12.800 --> 20:14.800]  because it could weaken our case
[20:14.800 --> 20:21.800]  and I really don't think so because you know he's violating the rules of civility
[20:21.800 --> 20:26.800]  between parties, he's violating the business and professional rules of conduct
[20:26.800 --> 20:32.800]  and I feel that you know if you don't bring it up
[20:32.800 --> 20:37.800]  then and you don't show the judge you know his words and actions
[20:37.800 --> 20:43.800]  how are they ever going to know you know they need to see what he's put in writing
[20:43.800 --> 20:48.800]  and you know I don't think it will weaken our case do you?
[20:48.800 --> 20:51.800]  No I don't think it would at all
[20:51.800 --> 20:56.800]  at the end of the day judges are human beings as well and judges are also lawyers
[20:56.800 --> 21:01.800]  and they're very familiar with these kinds of techniques
[21:01.800 --> 21:07.800]  but they don't like someone calling them on the techniques
[21:07.800 --> 21:17.800]  and so the lawyer who abuses the privilege the judges are not going to be happy with
[21:17.800 --> 21:20.800]  Yeah that's what I'm hoping for
[21:20.800 --> 21:26.800]  So the one thing I go back to is basic humanity
[21:26.800 --> 21:30.800]  regardless if we're prosecutors or judges or whatever we are
[21:30.800 --> 21:34.800]  we are human beings at the end of the day
[21:34.800 --> 21:40.800]  unless we're totally narcissistic and probably some of those but they're extremely rare
[21:40.800 --> 21:43.800]  and because they're totally narcissistic
[21:43.800 --> 21:49.800]  that's someone who's totally focused on themselves to the exclusion of everybody else
[21:49.800 --> 21:55.800]  these are people who wind up all by themselves because nobody will deal with them
[21:55.800 --> 22:00.800]  the general rule is we are human beings, human beings heard
[22:00.800 --> 22:06.800]  we have empathy one for the other, we take care of one another
[22:06.800 --> 22:11.800]  and judges are human beings like the rest of us
[22:11.800 --> 22:14.800]  Any place where they're not being paid off
[22:14.800 --> 22:25.800]  a good chance is they will make sound decisions and we should pay attention to them
[22:25.800 --> 22:31.800]  and that's my story and I'm sticking to it. I don't think it's as bad as everybody thinks
[22:31.800 --> 22:40.800]  and Tina if you keep maintaining the record and putting the record before the court
[22:40.800 --> 22:46.800]  it takes a while but eventually things begin to crumble
[22:46.800 --> 22:53.800]  And followed by the bar complaints I'm going to file against this attorney
[22:53.800 --> 22:57.800]  and hopefully it will upset him even more
[22:57.800 --> 23:01.800]  so I will file one of those before the next status comfort
[23:01.800 --> 23:04.800]  so he can bring it up to the judge
[23:04.800 --> 23:08.800]  Good, I like upsetting them even more
[23:08.800 --> 23:12.800]  yesterday when I was dealing with that prosecutor
[23:12.800 --> 23:17.800]  when he was going off and I told him they said you don't have to calm down
[23:17.800 --> 23:20.800]  and I said hey I'm calm, I'm done with this guy
[23:20.800 --> 23:26.800]  he can go, the lawyer I thought he was just going to absolutely lose it
[23:26.800 --> 23:36.800]  but it was good for the lawyer because he used to dealing with people who are under his potential authority
[23:36.800 --> 23:42.800]  he's not dealing with someone who could potentially knock him out
[23:42.800 --> 23:55.800]  These guys like to find this artificial authority that they can use on everybody else
[23:55.800 --> 24:04.800]  This prosecutor I wanted to ask him if he was to consider the high school bully
[24:04.800 --> 24:08.800]  in the high school parking lot because that's what it sounds like
[24:08.800 --> 24:19.800]  If we learn how to deal with these people and not be frightened or intimidated by their antics
[24:19.800 --> 24:23.800]  we can turn them back against them
[24:23.800 --> 24:28.800]  And then kind of the nice thing about that
[24:28.800 --> 24:36.800]  is if I file bar agreements against the lawyer for something that the lawyer actually did not do
[24:36.800 --> 24:40.800]  Well the lawyer has recourse
[24:40.800 --> 24:48.800]  He can file with the district clerk for the eyes of the grand jury with the local district clerk
[24:48.800 --> 24:54.800]  or he can add more space to it and file more stuff in his favor
[24:54.800 --> 24:56.800]  and do anything he want to
[24:56.800 --> 24:59.800]  And once you give a reason to
[24:59.800 --> 25:03.800]  I actually lost my place
[25:03.800 --> 25:13.800]  I had something in mind and I was trying to be careful and frame it so it made sense
[25:13.800 --> 25:16.800]  and then I lost it all together
[25:16.800 --> 25:20.800]  But anyway these lawyers who have bad attitudes
[25:20.800 --> 25:22.800]  Judges are human beings
[25:22.800 --> 25:27.800]  They recognize when someone's being a jerk
[25:27.800 --> 25:32.800]  and they tend to get offended by it like everybody else does
[25:32.800 --> 25:35.800]  So if you bring that up
[25:35.800 --> 25:41.800]  and I like the idea that your lawyer is telling you how to bring this up in a way
[25:41.800 --> 25:44.800]  that it will surprise the lawyer
[25:44.800 --> 25:51.800]  but the lawyer will not be able to claim surprise
[25:51.800 --> 25:55.800]  Yeah that's really sneaky of that lawyer
[25:55.800 --> 25:58.800]  I'm glad you got him on your side
[25:58.800 --> 26:03.800]  Well it was because he had a client that was bullied by this same attorney
[26:03.800 --> 26:06.800]  and he said he's a total jerk and everyone knows it
[26:06.800 --> 26:13.800]  and he said that you shouldn't treat any person like that for particularly elderly and women
[26:13.800 --> 26:18.800]  and then I told him one of the comments to the other lady was
[26:18.800 --> 26:23.800]  boo who grow up your wasting time
[26:23.800 --> 26:27.800]  and he said that is unbelievably unacceptable
[26:27.800 --> 26:30.800]  No attorney should be saying that
[26:30.800 --> 26:33.800]  Oh that should get a bar grievance
[26:33.800 --> 26:38.800]  Well it will be, trust me, it will be
[26:38.800 --> 26:41.800]  There's a couple of comments he made and I have it on record
[26:41.800 --> 26:44.800]  because I told him when we had our conference
[26:44.800 --> 26:46.800]  that conference or hearing or whatever it was
[26:46.800 --> 26:51.800]  I said do you mind me recording this so we can make sure we get everything on record
[26:51.800 --> 26:55.800]  Oh okay, it looked great so I recorded it
[26:55.800 --> 27:00.800]  so I was able to listen to it again and get it word for word
[27:00.800 --> 27:03.800]  What you do is take at least two records
[27:03.800 --> 27:05.800]  You're in California
[27:05.800 --> 27:07.800]  So when they object to you recording it
[27:07.800 --> 27:10.800]  Okay, no problem, turn it off
[27:10.800 --> 27:14.800]  You don't have to tell them about the other recording
[27:14.800 --> 27:16.800]  Yes
[27:16.800 --> 27:22.800]  You can record any interaction to which you are privy
[27:22.800 --> 27:26.800]  That means you're a personal participant
[27:26.800 --> 27:28.800]  Let's say you're in a restaurant
[27:28.800 --> 27:31.800]  and you're sitting at a table
[27:31.800 --> 27:35.800]  and the people at the next table are talking loudly enough
[27:35.800 --> 27:38.800]  so that you can hear it
[27:38.800 --> 27:43.800]  They have no expectation of privacy
[27:43.800 --> 27:45.800]  So you can record them
[27:45.800 --> 27:49.800]  But if you're in a conversation
[27:49.800 --> 27:52.800]  especially if you're dealing with public officials
[27:52.800 --> 27:58.800]  my suggestion is you take two recorders with you
[27:58.800 --> 28:02.800]  One you show the other side, the other one you don't
[28:02.800 --> 28:07.800]  And when they ask you to turn off the recording you can see
[28:07.800 --> 28:15.800]  you absolutely amicably oblige and turn it off
[28:15.800 --> 28:22.800]  And when you do that, they seem to get the idea that they can say or do anything they want to
[28:22.800 --> 28:27.800]  They tend not to ever imagine that you've got another one
[28:27.800 --> 28:32.800]  One of my favorite hearings I filed as an intervener
[28:32.800 --> 28:35.800]  in a foreclosure case for a friend of mine
[28:35.800 --> 28:41.800]  on whose property I have filed a mechanically
[28:41.800 --> 28:47.800]  And when we went into court, the JP knew me
[28:47.800 --> 28:50.800]  and I had my cell phone out and she said
[28:50.800 --> 28:52.800]  Mr. Kelton, is that phone turned on?
[28:52.800 --> 28:53.800]  Yes, Your Honor, it is
[28:53.800 --> 28:55.800]  Well, I need you to turn it off
[28:55.800 --> 29:00.800]  Oh, but judge, I wanted to record these proceedings
[29:00.800 --> 29:02.800]  And that annoyed her
[29:02.800 --> 29:06.800]  So she told the bailiff, Mr. Bennett, take that phone away from Mr. Kelton
[29:06.800 --> 29:10.800]  The bailiff came over and jerked it out of my hand
[29:10.800 --> 29:13.800]  and turned off the recording
[29:13.800 --> 29:18.800]  So she started the hearing again and then stopped
[29:18.800 --> 29:22.800]  and said, Mr. Kelton, she knew me beforehand
[29:22.800 --> 29:24.800]  so she knew what to expect
[29:24.800 --> 29:30.800]  Mr. Kelton, do you have anything else capable of recording these proceedings?
[29:30.800 --> 29:33.800]  Oh, judge, I wish you hadn't said that
[29:33.800 --> 29:39.800]  and I pulled this zip drive off my pool of our radio press pass
[29:39.800 --> 29:42.800]  that I had at Bell Code 2
[29:42.800 --> 29:44.800]  and I'm trying to turn it off and the bailiff
[29:44.800 --> 29:46.800]  come over and jerked it out of my hand
[29:46.800 --> 29:48.800]  so it was still running
[29:48.800 --> 29:51.800]  She starts the hearing again and stops
[29:51.800 --> 29:54.800]  Mr. Kelton, do you have anything else on your person
[29:54.800 --> 29:56.800]  with which you can record these proceedings?
[29:56.800 --> 29:59.800]  Oh, judge, I wish you had...
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[33:30.800 --> 33:35.800]  Oh, yeah, I won't
[33:38.800 --> 33:40.800]  Oh, I won't
[33:41.800 --> 33:47.800]  I won't let you pull the door open my eyes
[33:49.800 --> 33:52.800]  You must refuse your noose
[33:52.800 --> 33:55.800]  or so I've been lying
[33:55.800 --> 33:57.800]  Okay, we are back
[33:57.800 --> 34:00.800]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rural Radio
[34:00.800 --> 34:04.800]  and we're talking to Tina in California
[34:04.800 --> 34:10.800]  and we're talking about how to sting bad lawyers
[34:10.800 --> 34:14.800]  and, you know, I know that we do a show on legal reform
[34:14.800 --> 34:19.800]  and we'd like to think that the judges are absolutely
[34:19.800 --> 34:23.800]  in absolutely unfeeling and inconsiderate
[34:23.800 --> 34:27.800]  but at the end of the day they're human beings like the rest of us
[34:27.800 --> 34:33.800]  and if we're in a case where we're not taking on
[34:33.800 --> 34:37.800]  some of the largest financial industries in the country
[34:37.800 --> 34:45.800]  then the judges are not actually paid off
[34:47.800 --> 34:51.800]  I'm sorry, I'm trying to get rid of that noise
[34:51.800 --> 34:53.800]  Okay, background noise
[34:53.800 --> 34:58.800]  Okay, the judges haven't been paid off for everything
[34:58.800 --> 35:02.800]  The major banks have pretty well bought the judges
[35:02.800 --> 35:04.800]  and even if the judge wants to be honest
[35:04.800 --> 35:08.800]  he's still stuck with having to deal with these very powerful integers
[35:08.800 --> 35:12.800]  but when you get below that, you get to ordinary people
[35:12.800 --> 35:15.800]  the judges haven't always been paid off
[35:15.800 --> 35:20.800]  and it's been my experiences that judges are frustrated
[35:20.800 --> 35:24.800]  when they can't render good legal decisions
[35:24.800 --> 35:28.800]  so in order to take advantage of that
[35:28.800 --> 35:30.800]  we have to get good at
[35:30.800 --> 35:36.800]  appealing to the judge's humanity as well as to the facts and law in the case
[35:36.800 --> 35:45.800]  So, how do I say this?
[35:45.800 --> 35:50.800]  It's inappropriate to think that the judges are the bad guys
[35:50.800 --> 35:52.800]  that they're always against us
[35:52.800 --> 35:56.800]  I do promote the rule that says that we should always expect
[35:56.800 --> 36:01.800]  the court to rule against us out of hand at every turn
[36:01.800 --> 36:05.800]  but that's somewhat disrespectful
[36:05.800 --> 36:09.800]  Judges are human beings too
[36:09.800 --> 36:16.800]  and we need to give them the opportunity to do the right thing
[36:16.800 --> 36:21.800]  without all the huff and puffing and railing and righteous indignation
[36:21.800 --> 36:26.800]  Am I making any sense at all, Tina?
[36:26.800 --> 36:30.800]  Yes, you are actually because, you know, as you say
[36:30.800 --> 36:32.800]  if it's not a foreclosure case
[36:32.800 --> 36:41.800]  I see that this judge has been very fair to the person in litigants
[36:41.800 --> 36:44.800]  she did ask us if we could get an attorney
[36:44.800 --> 36:46.800]  and I said that's not financially possible
[36:46.800 --> 36:50.800]  and she has leaned towards trying to help us
[36:50.800 --> 36:53.800]  without letting us know she's helping us
[36:53.800 --> 36:58.800]  as in giving us an extra 60 days for discovery
[36:58.800 --> 37:00.800]  because she recognized what this attorney was doing
[37:00.800 --> 37:02.800]  trying to run the time out
[37:02.800 --> 37:04.800]  and he's still done that
[37:04.800 --> 37:06.800]  in which I've put in my motion
[37:06.800 --> 37:14.800]  so I think this judge is, you know, reasonable, fair
[37:14.800 --> 37:17.800]  and, you know, I'm prepared to go in there
[37:17.800 --> 37:21.800]  and say, you know, Your Honor, we've put in a joint settlement
[37:21.800 --> 37:28.800]  he's just trying to, you know, while he has the right to try to divide us
[37:28.800 --> 37:31.800]  we don't want to be divided
[37:31.800 --> 37:33.800]  we are in this together
[37:33.800 --> 37:39.800]  and we all have, you know, a valid point in this case
[37:39.800 --> 37:42.800]  and we want to see the justice prevail
[37:42.800 --> 37:46.800]  and we'll see what she does at the next hearing
[37:46.800 --> 37:49.800]  Yes, and if you write your pleadings
[37:49.800 --> 37:55.800]  in a similar beverage and style that you just presented here
[37:55.800 --> 37:59.800]  you know, we are human beings at the end of the day
[37:59.800 --> 38:02.800]  and for the most part human beings
[38:02.800 --> 38:06.800]  want to do the right thing for the right reasons
[38:06.800 --> 38:08.800]  but there are always scoundrels out there
[38:08.800 --> 38:10.800]  who are trying to manipulate you
[38:10.800 --> 38:12.800]  so they can't always do what they want to
[38:12.800 --> 38:19.800]  but I am reluctant to label all judges as criminals
[38:19.800 --> 38:22.800]  it's just not the case
[38:22.800 --> 38:26.800]  these are ordinary people pulled from all over the place
[38:26.800 --> 38:29.800]  to imagine that they all have the same agenda
[38:29.800 --> 38:32.800]  well, that's nonsense
[38:32.800 --> 38:35.800]  we have a lot of individual judges
[38:35.800 --> 38:38.800]  and that's part of the genius of our founders
[38:38.800 --> 38:43.800]  when you go into court, if the judge hasn't been bought and paid for
[38:43.800 --> 38:45.800]  by one of the major banks
[38:45.800 --> 38:54.800]  then they get an opportunity to preside over a fair hearing
[38:54.800 --> 38:59.800]  because at the end of the day they want to be voted in at the next election
[38:59.800 --> 39:03.800]  so we need to understand the politics
[39:03.800 --> 39:08.800]  which judge in the jurisdiction
[39:08.800 --> 39:14.800]  is most politically aligned with you
[39:14.800 --> 39:21.800]  or is in a complex circumstance
[39:21.800 --> 39:23.800]  say they've been injured or something
[39:23.800 --> 39:26.800]  and they don't... I'm losing my place again
[39:26.800 --> 39:28.800]  how do I argue this?
[39:28.800 --> 39:31.800]  I've got a picture in my mind but it's not coming out right
[39:31.800 --> 39:35.800]  we need to understand that judges are humans
[39:35.800 --> 39:39.800]  and they want to do the right thing
[39:39.800 --> 39:44.800]  sometimes they're bound by politics that doesn't allow them
[39:44.800 --> 39:52.800]  so if you're not acting in the way that you have described this particular lawyer
[39:52.800 --> 39:58.800]  you know, I'm not a judge but I would be offended by this kind of behavior
[39:58.800 --> 40:02.800]  Tina, you live with someone in California
[40:02.800 --> 40:08.800]  would he find this kind of behavior by a male lawyer toward a female
[40:08.800 --> 40:12.800]  non-client opposing party?
[40:12.800 --> 40:17.800]  Would he find this as appropriate or would he be offended by it?
[40:17.800 --> 40:22.800]  He'd be offended by it and I've talked to a few people
[40:22.800 --> 40:25.800]  and even one of the guys in our case he said
[40:25.800 --> 40:31.800]  I have suddenly recognized how different he is to the women
[40:31.800 --> 40:34.800]  and in this case and how differently he treats me
[40:34.800 --> 40:38.800]  he said I really am realizing it
[40:38.800 --> 40:42.800]  Do you have a female judge, don't you?
[40:42.800 --> 40:44.800]  Yes, we do
[40:44.800 --> 40:50.800]  Oh, now this judge is not allowed to let her personal feelings
[40:50.800 --> 40:53.800]  infringe upon her rulings
[40:53.800 --> 40:57.800]  Good luck with that
[40:57.800 --> 40:59.800]  Yeah
[40:59.800 --> 41:01.800]  We are human beings
[41:01.800 --> 41:07.800]  So the more outrageous the other side is, the better for you
[41:07.800 --> 41:12.800]  And I'm going to point everything out and how outrageous it is
[41:12.800 --> 41:16.800]  and if he comes up with this at the staff conference that I'm unreasonable
[41:16.800 --> 41:19.800]  and he's going to have to explain to the judge
[41:19.800 --> 41:25.800]  why he has not actually approached the two women to settle with them
[41:25.800 --> 41:28.800]  and only the men
[41:28.800 --> 41:34.800]  So that is one of those things where we have these commercials
[41:34.800 --> 41:38.800]  that says wish you were somewhere else
[41:38.800 --> 41:42.800]  That's going to be one of those interviews
[41:42.800 --> 41:44.800]  Yes, I'm ready
[41:44.800 --> 41:48.800]  because I know he hates me because I beat him the last time
[41:48.800 --> 41:51.800]  Yeah, and the judge will recognize that
[41:51.800 --> 41:54.800]  after all they're human beings
[41:54.800 --> 41:58.800]  and when they get to a case where they're not bought and paid for
[41:58.800 --> 42:01.800]  and to the judge's defense
[42:01.800 --> 42:05.800]  when all the judges are bought and paid for, you don't have any option
[42:05.800 --> 42:07.800]  in certain circumstances
[42:07.800 --> 42:12.800]  But if you're bound to rule bull crap rulings in one circumstance
[42:12.800 --> 42:14.800]  when you get out of that circumstance
[42:14.800 --> 42:19.800]  you're much more likely to render a positive ruling
[42:19.800 --> 42:31.800]  It is uncomfortable for me to think that all judges are unreasonable criminals
[42:31.800 --> 42:35.800]  But this doesn't make sense, it doesn't fit with you
[42:35.800 --> 42:38.800]  I don't see judges being that way
[42:38.800 --> 42:45.800]  Yeah, and I'm speaking to others out there who've been listening to these
[42:45.800 --> 42:52.800]  Proceed gurus preaching this patriot mythology
[42:52.800 --> 42:56.800]  Judges at the end of day are human beings
[42:56.800 --> 43:01.800]  If you tell a human being what a dirty rotten scoundrel he is
[43:01.800 --> 43:07.800]  he will most likely attempt to prove that you are right
[43:07.800 --> 43:16.800]  My point is always treat the courts with dignity and respect
[43:16.800 --> 43:18.800]  and you're likely to get it back from them
[43:18.800 --> 43:20.800]  you'll get a much better reading
[43:20.800 --> 43:23.800]  Yeah, I know, in a perfect world
[43:23.800 --> 43:28.800]  you wouldn't have to appeal to the delicate sensibilities of the judge
[43:28.800 --> 43:33.800]  But if this were a perfect world, I know I wouldn't be in it
[43:33.800 --> 43:39.800]  Tina, I'm not so sure about you
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[46:22.800 --> 46:29.800]  Yes, always, I must be careful what I'm wishing for
[46:29.800 --> 46:34.800]  When I'm hungry, I like to know just what I'm wishing for
[46:34.800 --> 46:40.800]  I ain't asking for much, I ain't trying to be no blood
[46:40.800 --> 46:44.800]  I'm just here making my living, pushing but
[46:44.800 --> 46:46.800]  Okay, we are back
[46:46.800 --> 46:49.800]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio
[46:49.800 --> 46:51.800]  and I think I'm overtired tonight
[46:51.800 --> 46:55.800]  I'm not as articulate as I was last night
[46:55.800 --> 47:04.800]  Tina, I guess I'm struggling with demonizing judges
[47:04.800 --> 47:06.800]  At the end of the day, they're human beings
[47:06.800 --> 47:10.800]  and I hate to, you know, in the legal reform community
[47:10.800 --> 47:13.800]  we want to demonize judges and prosecutors and policemen
[47:13.800 --> 47:16.800]  and I don't think that's always the greatest idea
[47:16.800 --> 47:20.800]  especially when we're in a civil litigation issue
[47:20.800 --> 47:26.800]  and in your case, it sounds like you have a judge that
[47:26.800 --> 47:29.800]  regardless of what she may want to do
[47:29.800 --> 47:32.800]  or what she may have been paid to do
[47:32.800 --> 47:34.800]  she's still a human being
[47:34.800 --> 47:37.800]  and if we appeal to that part of the human being
[47:37.800 --> 47:41.800]  we may be able to get better judgments
[47:41.800 --> 47:48.800]  So, Tina, have we pretty well addressed all the issues you have
[47:48.800 --> 47:50.800]  and do you have any other questions
[47:50.800 --> 47:53.800]  or issues you would like to touch on?
[47:53.800 --> 47:56.800]  I just have a comment to make to people
[47:56.800 --> 48:01.800]  to show how ridiculous our California public officials are
[48:01.800 --> 48:03.800]  as in Maxine Waters
[48:03.800 --> 48:06.800]  I just received an email a little while ago
[48:06.800 --> 48:12.800]  from a judicial watch that shows that Maxine Waters
[48:12.800 --> 48:15.800]  you know, she's just ridiculous
[48:15.800 --> 48:21.800]  she kicked off two federal air marshals from a flight
[48:21.800 --> 48:26.800]  so that she could have two extra security details for her
[48:26.800 --> 48:30.800]  she already had four but she wanted two more
[48:30.800 --> 48:34.800]  so these air marshals were yanked from a high-risk flight
[48:34.800 --> 48:37.800]  so that Maxine Waters could have extra security
[48:37.800 --> 48:39.800]  during a recent trip to Minnesota
[48:39.800 --> 48:42.800]  though she was already covered by a four-man detail
[48:42.800 --> 48:45.800]  consisting of two capital police officers
[48:45.800 --> 48:47.800]  and two secret service agents
[48:47.800 --> 48:50.800]  so she doesn't care about the safety of the flight
[48:50.800 --> 48:52.800]  it's just about her
[48:52.800 --> 48:55.800]  and I mean she's just appalling
[48:55.800 --> 49:00.800]  What is that about the wicked flea when no one is pursuing?
[49:00.800 --> 49:06.800]  Yes, this woman needs to be kicked off
[49:06.800 --> 49:08.800]  she's 82 years old
[49:08.800 --> 49:11.800]  she is just milking for everything she can
[49:11.800 --> 49:16.800]  and she's just a wasted space and money
[49:16.800 --> 49:19.800]  but she has the power
[49:19.800 --> 49:23.800]  and she kicked off two federal air marshals from a high-risk flight
[49:23.800 --> 49:25.800]  so that she could have extra security
[49:25.800 --> 49:29.800]  so that's what California is like
[49:29.800 --> 49:31.800]  Wow
[49:31.800 --> 49:33.800]  but it moved to Texas
[49:33.800 --> 49:36.800]  Come on, come on
[49:36.800 --> 49:38.800]  Yes
[49:38.800 --> 49:43.800]  But don't bring your politics with you
[49:43.800 --> 49:45.800]  Well, wait a minute
[49:45.800 --> 49:47.800]  My politics, you might like my politics
[49:47.800 --> 49:49.800]  No, not you specifically
[49:49.800 --> 49:51.800]  He means the all about everybody
[49:51.800 --> 49:52.800]  Oh, they all
[49:52.800 --> 49:53.800]  Oh, and I'm not bringing that
[49:53.800 --> 49:55.800]  No, no way
[49:55.800 --> 49:58.800]  They're flooding out of California
[49:58.800 --> 50:05.800]  because their liberal policies have made California essentially unlivable
[50:05.800 --> 50:13.800]  and then they come to Texas because the right-wing conservative ideology here
[50:13.800 --> 50:18.800]  has made Texas a very viable place to come to
[50:18.800 --> 50:26.800]  and then they bring the same politics that destroyed California to Texas
[50:26.800 --> 50:33.800]  and then complain because Texas turns into California
[50:33.800 --> 50:35.800]  It's a frustration
[50:35.800 --> 50:37.800]  It's very frustrating
[50:37.800 --> 50:39.800]  but anyway, I will end on that
[50:39.800 --> 50:42.800]  and I will send you the e-mail so you can both see it later
[50:42.800 --> 50:44.800]  and I'll let you get back to where the call is
[50:44.800 --> 50:46.800]  and I'll go on to the listing line
[50:46.800 --> 50:48.800]  and tree up the space
[50:48.800 --> 50:51.800]  Okay, thank you, Tina
[50:51.800 --> 50:53.800]  We have EJ next
[50:53.800 --> 50:56.800]  but we have a first-time caller
[50:56.800 --> 50:58.800]  so EJ, hang on
[50:58.800 --> 50:59.800]  we'll take you after
[50:59.800 --> 51:02.800]  we always take the first-time callers first
[51:02.800 --> 51:10.800]  Okay, we have a first-time caller out of error code 603
[51:10.800 --> 51:12.800]  Talk to us
[51:12.800 --> 51:14.800]  Hi
[51:14.800 --> 51:15.800]  Can you hear me?
[51:15.800 --> 51:17.800]  First name and a state
[51:17.800 --> 51:22.800]  Yeah, this is Sam from New Hampshire
[51:22.800 --> 51:27.800]  New Hampshire, is that a part of the United States?
[51:27.800 --> 51:31.800]  I don't remember having a caller from New Hampshire
[51:31.800 --> 51:33.800]  Really?
[51:33.800 --> 51:35.800]  Yeah, we may have
[51:35.800 --> 51:38.800]  but I just don't remember it's been so long ago
[51:38.800 --> 51:41.800]  Tell us about New Hampshire
[51:41.800 --> 51:45.800]  What is the state of the union in New Hampshire?
[51:45.800 --> 51:50.800]  Well, when they arrested me last week for the bench warrant
[51:50.800 --> 51:56.800]  every officer involved treated me with both dignity and respect
[51:56.800 --> 52:02.800]  Okay, before we pass that
[52:02.800 --> 52:07.800]  did you send a letter to their jurisdiction
[52:07.800 --> 52:11.800]  addressing your appreciation and approval
[52:11.800 --> 52:14.800]  for your treatment by these officers?
[52:14.800 --> 52:16.800]  I did not
[52:16.800 --> 52:19.800]  Please do that
[52:19.800 --> 52:21.800]  Quick story
[52:21.800 --> 52:23.800]  I'm pulled over on the side of the road
[52:23.800 --> 52:27.800]  and I usually rain a brand new avalanche that I'm driving
[52:27.800 --> 52:29.800]  and I've got a 350 motor in the back
[52:29.800 --> 52:31.800]  and I've got it strapped in there
[52:31.800 --> 52:32.800]  and it started wiggling around
[52:32.800 --> 52:34.800]  so I pulled over to tighten it up
[52:34.800 --> 52:37.800]  This highway patrolman stopped in the road
[52:37.800 --> 52:39.800]  rolled his right window down
[52:39.800 --> 52:42.800]  and asked, do you need any help?
[52:42.800 --> 52:44.800]  And I told him, no
[52:44.800 --> 52:46.800]  this motor is kind of moving around
[52:46.800 --> 52:48.800]  and if I scratch this new avalanche
[52:48.800 --> 52:52.800]  you'll be called to a homicide scene
[52:52.800 --> 52:54.800]  because my wife will kill me
[52:54.800 --> 52:56.800]  and he said, oh, well, okay
[52:56.800 --> 52:59.800]  I just wanted to see if you needed any help
[52:59.800 --> 53:02.800]  rolled up his window and left
[53:02.800 --> 53:05.800]  I got the engine cinched down
[53:05.800 --> 53:06.800]  and I jumped in the car
[53:06.800 --> 53:11.800]  and the first thing I did was called the local sergeant on the DPS
[53:11.800 --> 53:14.800]  and told him that
[53:14.800 --> 53:17.800]  one of your officers just pulled over
[53:17.800 --> 53:20.800]  while I was on the side of the road
[53:20.800 --> 53:23.800]  and asked me if I needed any help
[53:23.800 --> 53:26.800]  and he said, well, the sergeant hated me
[53:26.800 --> 53:28.800]  his name was Sergeant Rankin
[53:28.800 --> 53:30.800]  and I had really hammered him in the past
[53:30.800 --> 53:32.800]  and he said, well, Mr. Comfort, what's the problem?
[53:32.800 --> 53:34.800]  I said, no problem at all
[53:34.800 --> 53:37.800]  I just wanted to express my appreciation
[53:37.800 --> 53:41.800]  that one of your officers stopped to genuinely
[53:41.800 --> 53:44.800]  genuinely offer me assistance
[53:44.800 --> 53:47.800]  and did not use it as an opportunity
[53:47.800 --> 53:50.800]  to try to find a reason to arrest me
[53:50.800 --> 53:53.800]  two years later
[53:53.800 --> 53:55.800]  I walked into the local J.P. office
[53:55.800 --> 53:59.800]  and there were a whole bunch of DPS officers there
[53:59.800 --> 54:03.800]  because the J.P. here's all the tickets written by J.Ps
[54:03.800 --> 54:06.800]  I am by DPS
[54:06.800 --> 54:08.800]  I said, there's one real tall guy there
[54:08.800 --> 54:11.800]  and I walked in and he looked at me and he said, well, hello, Mr. Kelton
[54:11.800 --> 54:15.800]  and I looked up at him and I said
[54:15.800 --> 54:17.800]  do I know you?
[54:17.800 --> 54:21.800]  No, I'm sorry, I said, did you arrest me?
[54:21.800 --> 54:24.800]  and these other several of them knew me
[54:24.800 --> 54:27.800]  they started saying, yeah, I did, I will, you want me to?
[54:27.800 --> 54:29.800]  I said, no, no, no, guys
[54:29.800 --> 54:32.800]  and I'm sorry, the guy said, you don't remember me, do you?
[54:32.800 --> 54:35.800]  and then I said, did you arrest me?
[54:35.800 --> 54:37.800]  and all these other guys chirped in
[54:37.800 --> 54:40.800]  and he said, no, Mr. Kelton, I'm the one that pulled over
[54:40.800 --> 54:43.800]  to see if you need any help one day
[54:43.800 --> 54:48.800]  two years later
[54:48.800 --> 54:53.800]  he saw me and spoke to me for maybe two minutes
[54:53.800 --> 54:57.800]  and he knew exactly who I was
[54:57.800 --> 55:01.800]  you say something good about these officers
[55:01.800 --> 55:05.800]  all they get is complaining
[55:05.800 --> 55:08.800]  when a citizen comes to the jurisdiction
[55:08.800 --> 55:12.800]  and compliments their officers for their professionalism
[55:12.800 --> 55:16.800]  it goes a long way
[55:16.800 --> 55:20.800]  this particular sergeant hated me
[55:20.800 --> 55:24.800]  the local JP, her name was Plum Raspberry
[55:24.800 --> 55:27.800]  yeah, honest to goodness
[55:27.800 --> 55:31.800]  she was one of my favorite human beings on planet earth
[55:31.800 --> 55:35.800]  she told me once, said, Mr. Kelton, you know
[55:35.800 --> 55:39.800]  Sergeant Rankin hates you
[55:39.800 --> 55:43.800]  I said, yeah, I know and I take that as a high compliment
[55:43.800 --> 55:48.800]  but then I go to him
[55:48.800 --> 55:52.800]  and speak complimentary about one of his officers
[55:52.800 --> 55:55.800]  I called him once and said, you know, Sergeant Rankin officer
[55:55.800 --> 55:58.800]  Helton stopped me out here on 287 today
[55:58.800 --> 56:01.800]  yes, Mr. Kelton, I know
[56:01.800 --> 56:07.800]  and I said, Sergeant Rankin, I was my usual arrogant
[56:07.800 --> 56:11.800]  and demanding self and he said, yes, Mr. Kelton, I know
[56:11.800 --> 56:14.800]  he had clearly talked to this officer
[56:14.800 --> 56:18.800]  and you know Officer Helton wrote me two criminal complaints
[56:18.800 --> 56:21.800]  yes, Mr. Kelton, I know
[56:21.800 --> 56:26.800]  and I was my usual arrogant and demanding self
[56:26.800 --> 56:32.800]  and Officer Helton maintained his professional posture
[56:32.800 --> 56:35.800]  the whole time
[56:35.800 --> 56:39.800]  I just wanted to tell you that if I need a peace officer
[56:39.800 --> 56:41.800]  with a pistol on his hip
[56:41.800 --> 56:44.800]  I want you to send Officer Helton
[56:44.800 --> 56:46.800]  I trust him
[56:46.800 --> 56:52.800]  and I can almost hear Sergeant Rankin grinding his teeth together
[56:52.800 --> 56:56.800]  he wanted me to be a bad guy
[56:56.800 --> 56:58.800]  right
[56:58.800 --> 57:03.800]  when you compliment policemen for doing the right thing
[57:03.800 --> 57:07.800]  that's how we get policemen to want to do the right thing
[57:07.800 --> 57:11.800]  and I'm glad to hear that you're saying that these guys
[57:11.800 --> 57:13.800]  are conducting themselves like professionals
[57:13.800 --> 57:16.800]  okay, go ahead, I'll stop interrupting
[57:16.800 --> 57:21.800]  no, I think that's a great way to start it
[57:21.800 --> 57:24.800]  you know, because you were saying about the judges
[57:24.800 --> 57:27.800]  I think a lot of times we were frosty
[57:27.800 --> 57:32.800]  you know, those of us that aren't familiar with the procedure
[57:32.800 --> 57:35.800]  are frustrated when the judge is just trying to tell us the law
[57:35.800 --> 57:38.800]  you know, you can only say within your complaint
[57:38.800 --> 57:41.800]  you can only say certain things
[57:41.800 --> 57:43.800]  that's not my rule
[57:43.800 --> 57:45.800]  you know
[57:45.800 --> 57:50.800]  okay, let me explain the judge's position
[57:50.800 --> 57:56.800]  I sat in a mock trial in Massachusetts in Worcester
[57:56.800 --> 58:01.800]  and you noticed I pronounced that right
[58:01.800 --> 58:08.800]  it took Pastor Massey two months to teach me how to say Worcester
[58:08.800 --> 58:13.800]  but they picked a mock jury off the street
[58:13.800 --> 58:17.800]  and the pastor had me set as the mock judge
[58:17.800 --> 58:22.800]  and he was a prostitute and he was a really mean prostitute
[58:22.800 --> 58:25.800]  and we're about to go to break and I'll explain this
[58:25.800 --> 58:31.800]  it gave me a whole different point of view
[58:31.800 --> 58:35.800]  and I'll explain this when we come back on the other side
[58:35.800 --> 58:41.800]  it was a real revelation for me as to what a judge has to deal with
[58:41.800 --> 58:46.800]  this is Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, we'll be right back
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[01:00:45.800 --> 01:00:49.800]  In history the year 1916 the preparedness day bombing
[01:00:49.800 --> 01:00:52.800]  a time suitcase bomb was detonated on Market Street
[01:00:52.800 --> 01:00:56.800]  in San Francisco during the World War I preparedness day parade
[01:00:56.800 --> 01:00:59.800]  killing 10 and injuring 40
[01:00:59.800 --> 01:01:03.800]  in history
[01:01:03.800 --> 01:01:07.800]  And recent news since Governor Greg Abbott signed House Bill
[01:01:07.800 --> 01:01:10.800]  1325 legalizing Hempett attacks his law back in June
[01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:14.800]  County prosecutors around the state including Houston, Austin, San Antonio
[01:01:14.800 --> 01:01:18.800]  have been dropping marijuana possession charges and even refusing to file new ones
[01:01:18.800 --> 01:01:22.800]  since they are stipulating that they do not have the time or the laboratory equipment
[01:01:22.800 --> 01:01:24.800]  to test the earth for THC
[01:01:24.800 --> 01:01:28.800]  Margaret Moore the Travis County District Attorney announced earlier this month
[01:01:28.800 --> 01:01:31.800]  is missing 32 felony possession and delivery of marijuana cases
[01:01:31.800 --> 01:01:33.800]  because of the law
[01:01:33.800 --> 01:01:36.800]  Mr. Abbott and other state officials including the Attorney General
[01:01:36.800 --> 01:01:39.800]  stipulated in a letter to County District Attorneys back on Thursday
[01:01:39.800 --> 01:01:42.800]  that marijuana has not been decriminalized in Texas
[01:01:42.800 --> 01:01:47.800]  and that these actions demonstrate a misunderstanding of how HB1325 works
[01:01:47.800 --> 01:01:50.800]  as well as other cities too like the District Attorney
[01:01:50.800 --> 01:01:55.800]  in El Paso, Cayma Esparza, a Democrat who also stated earlier this month
[01:01:55.800 --> 01:02:00.800]  that the law quote will not have an effect on the prosecution of marijuana cases in El Paso
[01:02:00.800 --> 01:02:04.800]  however the issue was succinctly summarized by Mr. Brandon Ball
[01:02:04.800 --> 01:02:07.800]  an assistant public defender in Harris County who stated that quote
[01:02:07.800 --> 01:02:12.800]  the law is constantly changing on what makes something illegal based on its chemical makeup
[01:02:12.800 --> 01:02:15.800]  it's important that if someone is charged with something
[01:02:15.800 --> 01:02:18.800]  the test matches what they're charged with
[01:02:18.800 --> 01:02:23.800]  a paper by Tulane University identified a five and a half inch American pocket shark
[01:02:23.800 --> 01:02:26.800]  as the first of its kind in the Gulf of Mexico
[01:02:26.800 --> 01:02:31.800]  the specimen being only the second pocket shark ever captured or recorded
[01:02:31.800 --> 01:02:35.800]  with the other one being found way back in 1979 in the East Pacific Ocean
[01:02:35.800 --> 01:02:39.800]  according to the university paper the shark secretes a luminous fluid
[01:02:39.800 --> 01:02:42.800]  from a gland near its front fins
[01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:45.800]  for the purpose it is hypothesized to lure and prey
[01:02:45.800 --> 01:02:50.800]  who may be drawn into the glow
[01:03:16.800 --> 01:03:18.800]  I am a boy
[01:03:21.800 --> 01:03:25.800]  I will lie in front of my father's house
[01:03:25.800 --> 01:03:28.800]  till he returns
[01:03:28.800 --> 01:03:32.800]  I will lie in front of my father's house
[01:03:32.800 --> 01:03:36.800]  he has to be with his friends and with them
[01:03:36.800 --> 01:03:39.800]  I will aid my concern
[01:03:39.800 --> 01:03:42.800]  I will lie in front of my father's house
[01:03:42.800 --> 01:03:47.800]  till I realize that my father's house
[01:04:13.800 --> 01:04:16.800]  Did you put him in a database, Brad?
[01:04:16.800 --> 01:04:18.800]  I did
[01:04:18.800 --> 01:04:20.800]  We haven't found out yet
[01:04:20.800 --> 01:04:22.800]  What Sam called about
[01:04:22.800 --> 01:04:24.800]  We'll get to that
[01:04:24.800 --> 01:04:27.800]  Don't worry
[01:04:27.800 --> 01:04:30.800]  I was telling about the mock trial
[01:04:30.800 --> 01:04:34.800]  They asked me to sit as a mock judge
[01:04:34.800 --> 01:04:37.800]  and I'm sitting up here as the judge
[01:04:37.800 --> 01:04:39.800]  and Danny is one of us
[01:04:39.800 --> 01:04:42.800]  He is a very reformed guy
[01:04:42.800 --> 01:04:48.800]  and he is giving me all of this legal reform rhetoric
[01:04:48.800 --> 01:04:51.800]  but I'm the judge
[01:04:51.800 --> 01:04:55.800]  and as the judge it is my duty
[01:04:55.800 --> 01:05:00.800]  to determine the facts in accordance with the rules of evidence
[01:05:00.800 --> 01:05:06.800]  then apply the law as it comes to me to the facts in the case
[01:05:06.800 --> 01:05:10.800]  Danny tried to tell you all about the maritime
[01:05:10.800 --> 01:05:14.800]  he tried to tell you about the birth certificate
[01:05:14.800 --> 01:05:18.800]  I'm thinking that's all well and good
[01:05:18.800 --> 01:05:20.800]  but what do I care?
[01:05:20.800 --> 01:05:24.800]  It doesn't go to the facts in the law
[01:05:24.800 --> 01:05:27.800]  He's one of us
[01:05:27.800 --> 01:05:31.800]  and I'm wanting to rule in his favor
[01:05:31.800 --> 01:05:34.800]  and he had a guy helping him
[01:05:34.800 --> 01:05:37.800]  This guy is really on his game
[01:05:37.800 --> 01:05:39.800]  just giving me all of this stuff
[01:05:39.800 --> 01:05:42.800]  and at one point I called a recess
[01:05:42.800 --> 01:05:46.800]  and I said Danny, you got this guy helping you here
[01:05:46.800 --> 01:05:50.800]  He's going to get you put in prison
[01:05:50.800 --> 01:05:52.800]  If he opens his mouth again
[01:05:52.800 --> 01:05:55.800]  you have my permission to shoot him
[01:05:55.800 --> 01:05:57.800]  So we went back to the case
[01:05:57.800 --> 01:06:00.800]  and they just go right back in
[01:06:00.800 --> 01:06:04.800]  and that shift from all this
[01:06:04.800 --> 01:06:07.800]  patriot mythology rhetoric
[01:06:07.800 --> 01:06:10.800]  to what I'm here for
[01:06:10.800 --> 01:06:13.800]  Give me the facts
[01:06:13.800 --> 01:06:15.800]  and give me the law
[01:06:15.800 --> 01:06:17.800]  We have a case in Texas
[01:06:17.800 --> 01:06:20.800]  Packer v. Walker or Walker v. Packer?
[01:06:20.800 --> 01:06:23.800]  Brad, I keep getting that backwards
[01:06:23.800 --> 01:06:25.800]  Walker v. Packer
[01:06:25.800 --> 01:06:28.800]  and it says
[01:06:28.800 --> 01:06:32.800]  the judge has no discretion
[01:06:32.800 --> 01:06:36.800]  in properly applying the law
[01:06:36.800 --> 01:06:39.800]  to the facts of failure to do so
[01:06:39.800 --> 01:06:41.800]  is an abuse of discretion
[01:06:41.800 --> 01:06:45.800]  So if you give the judge anything other than
[01:06:45.800 --> 01:06:48.800]  the law and the facts
[01:06:48.800 --> 01:06:51.800]  he may agree with you
[01:06:51.800 --> 01:06:53.800]  and he may sympathize with you
[01:06:53.800 --> 01:06:56.800]  but he can't rule in your favor
[01:06:56.800 --> 01:06:58.800]  That's what they were doing to me
[01:06:58.800 --> 01:07:01.800]  I've got nothing I can rule on
[01:07:01.800 --> 01:07:04.800]  and I'm frustrated here
[01:07:04.800 --> 01:07:07.800]  I think of judges sitting up there on the stand
[01:07:07.800 --> 01:07:10.800]  and they hear these pros and litigants
[01:07:10.800 --> 01:07:12.800]  come in there and argue these issues
[01:07:12.800 --> 01:07:16.800]  that have nothing to do with what's before the court
[01:07:16.800 --> 01:07:18.800]  and they may want to rule in these guys
[01:07:18.800 --> 01:07:22.800]  but they can't because
[01:07:22.800 --> 01:07:25.800]  the litigant doesn't understand
[01:07:25.800 --> 01:07:29.800]  the parameters the judge is bound by
[01:07:29.800 --> 01:07:32.800]  Facts in law, that's all he needs to hear
[01:07:32.800 --> 01:07:34.800]  Only give him what he needs to hear
[01:07:34.800 --> 01:07:38.800]  Policemen, they have a framework they work in
[01:07:38.800 --> 01:07:43.800]  Once you understand the parameters of where they work
[01:07:43.800 --> 01:07:47.800]  then you can give them what they need
[01:07:47.800 --> 01:07:51.800]  so that they can give you the outcome that you want
[01:07:51.800 --> 01:07:54.800]  Does that make sense, Sam?
[01:07:54.800 --> 01:07:58.800]  Oh, hold on, I don't have you unmuted
[01:07:58.800 --> 01:08:01.800]  I was too caught up in...
[01:08:01.800 --> 01:08:03.800]  Okay, there you go, Sam
[01:08:03.800 --> 01:08:07.800]  So are you saying that it was a good experience
[01:08:07.800 --> 01:08:09.800]  you had doing that?
[01:08:09.800 --> 01:08:13.800]  Oh, it was a devastating experience
[01:08:13.800 --> 01:08:15.800]  Yes, it was a very good experience
[01:08:15.800 --> 01:08:19.800]  because it forced me to step...
[01:08:19.800 --> 01:08:22.800]  You ever play chess, Sam?
[01:08:22.800 --> 01:08:24.800]  Yeah
[01:08:24.800 --> 01:08:26.800]  Try this one time
[01:08:26.800 --> 01:08:30.800]  Play six moves in with someone else
[01:08:30.800 --> 01:08:33.800]  and then turn the chess board around
[01:08:33.800 --> 01:08:35.800]  I've heard you say that before
[01:08:35.800 --> 01:08:38.800]  Yeah, you sit here and you look at that board
[01:08:38.800 --> 01:08:41.800]  and you think you can see from his side
[01:08:41.800 --> 01:08:46.800]  but when you turn it around, it looks totally different
[01:08:46.800 --> 01:08:51.800]  If we are to effectively deal with our public officials
[01:08:51.800 --> 01:08:55.800]  we need to understand where they live
[01:08:55.800 --> 01:09:00.800]  We need to know what they actually can do for us
[01:09:00.800 --> 01:09:02.800]  and what they cannot
[01:09:02.800 --> 01:09:07.800]  and do not ask them to do something they cannot do
[01:09:07.800 --> 01:09:09.800]  And I kind of bushwacked you
[01:09:09.800 --> 01:09:12.800]  but you led into a very good subject
[01:09:12.800 --> 01:09:15.800]  that I don't get to address often enough
[01:09:15.800 --> 01:09:20.800]  Now, what is it you have for us?
[01:09:20.800 --> 01:09:23.800]  Well, just to address that last part
[01:09:23.800 --> 01:09:26.800]  so what you're saying is it's a really good thing
[01:09:26.800 --> 01:09:30.800]  to mock the judge
[01:09:30.800 --> 01:09:32.800]  To mock the judge?
[01:09:32.800 --> 01:09:34.800]  You are a mock judge
[01:09:34.800 --> 01:09:36.800]  You are a mocking agent
[01:09:36.800 --> 01:09:39.800]  To be a mock judge, yes
[01:09:39.800 --> 01:09:43.800]  It's a good thing to step out of your shoes
[01:09:43.800 --> 01:09:47.800]  and step into the shoes of the person on the other side
[01:09:47.800 --> 01:09:50.800]  then you'll better understand how to talk to them
[01:09:50.800 --> 01:09:51.800]  Yes
[01:09:51.800 --> 01:09:52.800]  I got the point
[01:09:52.800 --> 01:09:55.800]  I was just trying to make a joke of it
[01:09:55.800 --> 01:09:58.800]  Okay, I missed that
[01:09:58.800 --> 01:10:02.800]  I wanted to make sure there wasn't a misunderstanding
[01:10:02.800 --> 01:10:04.800]  but yeah, we can mock the judge
[01:10:04.800 --> 01:10:07.800]  I do do that
[01:10:07.800 --> 01:10:13.800]  but I always do that in good humor
[01:10:13.800 --> 01:10:15.800]  Right, I think
[01:10:15.800 --> 01:10:18.800]  Yeah, the personal relationship
[01:10:18.800 --> 01:10:21.800]  I mean, whoever you're dealing with is the first thing
[01:10:21.800 --> 01:10:25.800]  There weren't a uniform, or costume, or whatever you want to call it
[01:10:25.800 --> 01:10:30.800]  and they have a job, or a title, or both are
[01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:34.800]  and I understand who I'm dealing with
[01:10:34.800 --> 01:10:38.800]  and I subtly try to let them know who they're dealing with
[01:10:38.800 --> 01:10:44.800]  and I really don't have in life any problem with police
[01:10:44.800 --> 01:10:48.800]  I mean, I think growing older has something to do with it
[01:10:48.800 --> 01:10:51.800]  but anyways
[01:10:51.800 --> 01:10:55.800]  but I do have problems with administrative types
[01:10:55.800 --> 01:10:58.800]  and neighbors
[01:10:58.800 --> 01:11:02.800]  and the bench warrant that I was arrested for
[01:11:02.800 --> 01:11:08.800]  was issued contempt
[01:11:08.800 --> 01:11:12.800]  for not answering a summons, or not accepting a summons
[01:11:12.800 --> 01:11:16.800]  being served on me for contempt
[01:11:16.800 --> 01:11:18.800]  Anyways
[01:11:18.800 --> 01:11:21.800]  Okay, wait, wait, this sounds complex
[01:11:21.800 --> 01:11:22.800]  It is
[01:11:22.800 --> 01:11:25.800]  A summons for contempt
[01:11:25.800 --> 01:11:28.800]  Let's back up to the case in which...
[01:11:28.800 --> 01:11:30.800]  It's not working in front of me yet
[01:11:30.800 --> 01:11:33.800]  so I can't read off the paperwork
[01:11:33.800 --> 01:11:35.800]  because this just happened a couple days ago
[01:11:35.800 --> 01:11:38.800]  and I'm busy working
[01:11:38.800 --> 01:11:42.800]  to get the paperwork I was supposed to have a copy
[01:11:42.800 --> 01:11:44.800]  I'm sorry?
[01:11:44.800 --> 01:11:46.800]  Was this by a Zoom or some video conference?
[01:11:46.800 --> 01:11:47.800]  Is that...
[01:11:47.800 --> 01:11:49.800]  I'm trying to figure out how you got contempt of court
[01:11:49.800 --> 01:11:52.800]  and on a summons that seems like you're being brought in
[01:11:52.800 --> 01:11:54.800]  for the contempt?
[01:11:54.800 --> 01:11:56.800]  That sounds odd
[01:11:56.800 --> 01:11:59.800]  Well, because I don't have the summons in front of me yet
[01:11:59.800 --> 01:12:02.800]  and I don't have a copy of the warrant
[01:12:02.800 --> 01:12:04.800]  which they actually made me a copy
[01:12:04.800 --> 01:12:06.800]  but it got lost in the shuffle
[01:12:06.800 --> 01:12:09.800]  and I didn't have the presence of mind when I was leaving
[01:12:09.800 --> 01:12:11.800]  the jail to...
[01:12:11.800 --> 01:12:13.800]  So I'm...
[01:12:13.800 --> 01:12:17.800]  What I believe is happening is that...
[01:12:17.800 --> 01:12:21.800]  Yes, it's a contempt for not answering a summons
[01:12:21.800 --> 01:12:24.800]  that they say they served me
[01:12:24.800 --> 01:12:26.800]  at my abode
[01:12:26.800 --> 01:12:28.800]  and I'm saying they didn't serve me in hand
[01:12:28.800 --> 01:12:31.800]  so I was not served
[01:12:31.800 --> 01:12:35.800]  but I haven't said that in paperwork or anything
[01:12:35.800 --> 01:12:36.800]  but...
[01:12:36.800 --> 01:12:41.800]  Okay, okay, do you know who said you were served?
[01:12:41.800 --> 01:12:43.800]  The...
[01:12:43.800 --> 01:12:45.800]  No.
[01:12:45.800 --> 01:12:48.800]  No, I'm assuming at this point
[01:12:48.800 --> 01:12:52.800]  like I say because I don't have those actual documents
[01:12:52.800 --> 01:12:54.800]  I just...
[01:12:54.800 --> 01:12:57.800]  I wasn't planning on calling in without being prepared
[01:12:57.800 --> 01:12:59.800]  and I just thought I'd...
[01:12:59.800 --> 01:13:00.800]  No, that's okay
[01:13:00.800 --> 01:13:04.800]  but it feels like we're starting in the middle of something
[01:13:04.800 --> 01:13:07.800]  Let's take a step back
[01:13:07.800 --> 01:13:10.800]  and give us a bit of a preamble
[01:13:10.800 --> 01:13:13.800]  as much as you know about
[01:13:13.800 --> 01:13:17.800]  what the context of this situation is.
[01:13:17.800 --> 01:13:19.800]  Sure.
[01:13:19.800 --> 01:13:26.800]  In 2019, I was...
[01:13:26.800 --> 01:13:29.800]  taken to court by the municipality
[01:13:29.800 --> 01:13:34.800]  where they called itself the town where I live
[01:13:34.800 --> 01:13:37.800]  and...
[01:13:37.800 --> 01:13:39.800]  Wait a minute, wait a minute.
[01:13:39.800 --> 01:13:43.800]  You didn't let your grasp get over six inches, did you?
[01:13:43.800 --> 01:13:45.800]  No.
[01:13:45.800 --> 01:13:48.800]  If you did, you might as well hang up right now.
[01:13:48.800 --> 01:13:50.800]  We just don't tolerate it.
[01:13:50.800 --> 01:13:52.800]  It's sideways though, does that count?
[01:13:52.800 --> 01:13:54.800]  Wait, say that again?
[01:13:54.800 --> 01:13:57.800]  It doesn't go straight up, it goes sideways.
[01:13:57.800 --> 01:13:59.800]  Okay, that's okay.
[01:13:59.800 --> 01:14:01.800]  All right.
[01:14:01.800 --> 01:14:03.800]  That's only because the neighbor blows the grass
[01:14:03.800 --> 01:14:05.800]  all the leaves onto my yard with his leaf block.
[01:14:05.800 --> 01:14:08.800]  But anyways...
[01:14:08.800 --> 01:14:15.800]  So they sent me to Superior Court for ordinance violation
[01:14:15.800 --> 01:14:19.800]  and I had no idea they were...
[01:14:19.800 --> 01:14:23.800]  coming on my property and taking pictures
[01:14:23.800 --> 01:14:29.800]  and until I got the summons on my door then in 2019
[01:14:29.800 --> 01:14:33.800]  served it my abode.
[01:14:33.800 --> 01:14:38.800]  And the ordinance violations were listed
[01:14:38.800 --> 01:14:42.800]  and three of them didn't exist
[01:14:42.800 --> 01:14:45.800]  and the fourth one, some debris in the yard.
[01:14:45.800 --> 01:14:49.800]  Yeah, there had been...
[01:14:49.800 --> 01:14:51.800]  I was cleaning up my yard,
[01:14:51.800 --> 01:14:54.800]  I was trying to get...
[01:14:54.800 --> 01:14:57.800]  So to go back a little bit further,
[01:14:57.800 --> 01:15:00.800]  the year before I had gone through the same thing
[01:15:00.800 --> 01:15:02.800]  and resolved it with the town manager
[01:15:02.800 --> 01:15:05.800]  and then a year later I didn't know anything was going on
[01:15:05.800 --> 01:15:08.800]  until I was served papers.
[01:15:08.800 --> 01:15:10.800]  And so I tried to go...
[01:15:10.800 --> 01:15:13.800]  I went to court and tried to defend it myself
[01:15:13.800 --> 01:15:16.800]  and I said to the judge that this evidence
[01:15:16.800 --> 01:15:19.800]  that they're using against me was gathered unconstitutionally.
[01:15:19.800 --> 01:15:23.800]  They came on the property without notifying the person
[01:15:23.800 --> 01:15:27.800]  who lives there or the homeowner.
[01:15:27.800 --> 01:15:29.800]  Okay, question.
[01:15:29.800 --> 01:15:33.800]  Does the property have a fence
[01:15:33.800 --> 01:15:38.800]  or a barrier of any kind
[01:15:38.800 --> 01:15:42.800]  that a reasonable person of ordinary prudence
[01:15:42.800 --> 01:15:47.800]  would construe to be intended
[01:15:47.800 --> 01:15:51.800]  to restrict access?
[01:15:51.800 --> 01:15:53.800]  No.
[01:15:53.800 --> 01:15:56.800]  Okay, then they can move on to the property.
[01:15:56.800 --> 01:16:00.800]  No trespassing signs and private property signs.
[01:16:00.800 --> 01:16:03.800]  That's different. That was where I was going.
[01:16:03.800 --> 01:16:05.800]  Okay.
[01:16:05.800 --> 01:16:09.800]  Is there anything to mark the boundary of the property?
[01:16:09.800 --> 01:16:14.800]  If you're in a municipality,
[01:16:14.800 --> 01:16:17.800]  the city has an easement
[01:16:17.800 --> 01:16:22.800]  on a certain amount of space from the street.
[01:16:22.800 --> 01:16:27.800]  Beyond that, then if they pass that point
[01:16:27.800 --> 01:16:29.800]  and you have a no trespassing sign,
[01:16:29.800 --> 01:16:32.800]  you don't need a barrier.
[01:16:32.800 --> 01:16:34.800]  I had a policeman come to my house.
[01:16:34.800 --> 01:16:36.800]  I was in a very small town. They all knew me.
[01:16:36.800 --> 01:16:39.800]  And the chief of police was a good friend of mine
[01:16:39.800 --> 01:16:42.800]  and someone wanted to leave a propane tank on my property
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[01:16:44.800 --> 01:16:46.800]  I said, sure.
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[01:16:48.800 --> 01:16:50.800]  And I said, wait a minute, Tom,
[01:16:50.800 --> 01:16:52.800]  you can't come on my property.
[01:16:52.800 --> 01:16:55.800]  He said, well, you don't have any barrier.
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[01:19:37.800 --> 01:19:43.960]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Wugla Radio, and we're talking about not having
[01:19:43.960 --> 01:19:44.960]  a barrier.
[01:19:44.960 --> 01:19:51.920]  The chief of police told me, if you had put some sticks in the ground, six inches above
[01:19:51.920 --> 01:19:58.080]  the ground and tied a string to them, to mark the boundary, I would not have been able to
[01:19:58.080 --> 01:20:00.080]  step across it.
[01:20:00.080 --> 01:20:05.960]  Well, in our town, you have to ask the town's permission to put up a fence.
[01:20:05.960 --> 01:20:07.960]  You have to get a permit.
[01:20:07.960 --> 01:20:16.840]  Well, then you put up an old trespassing sign, and if you're in an inner city that has sidewalks,
[01:20:16.840 --> 01:20:23.160]  a reasonable person of ordinary prudence can walk down a sidewalk and construe that, if
[01:20:23.160 --> 01:20:30.080]  I step to the street side, I'm stepping on city property or public property.
[01:20:30.080 --> 01:20:35.560]  If I step to the resident side, I'm stepping on private property.
[01:20:35.560 --> 01:20:40.320]  So if you have a no trespassing sign, a reasonable person of ordinary prudence would think, if
[01:20:40.320 --> 01:20:48.480]  I step into this yard, I'm violating that no trespass sign.
[01:20:48.480 --> 01:20:53.800]  But my problem was, is I didn't present that right to the judge.
[01:20:53.800 --> 01:20:59.760]  I didn't object, you know, I didn't speak up enough in court, you know, and I didn't
[01:20:59.760 --> 01:21:04.840]  appeal, and I, you know, I let a lot of things fly, so this, you know, I don't know if I'll
[01:21:04.840 --> 01:21:13.200]  get to the point where I can go back and get to the point of understanding law well enough
[01:21:13.200 --> 01:21:15.600]  to go back and fix that.
[01:21:15.600 --> 01:21:20.880]  But I have to deal now, deal with the ramifications of that decision in the court.
[01:21:20.880 --> 01:21:26.400]  So the judge ended up ruling that I had violated the ordinance.
[01:21:26.400 --> 01:21:33.080]  The town dropped the three items that didn't exist because they didn't exist.
[01:21:33.080 --> 01:21:37.600]  But, you know, I think that is, I'm being charged, lawyer fees were...
[01:21:37.600 --> 01:21:38.600]  Wait a minute.
[01:21:38.600 --> 01:21:42.160]  They charged you for issues that didn't exist?
[01:21:42.160 --> 01:21:44.160]  Yeah, they were.
[01:21:44.160 --> 01:21:49.480]  So this actually started in 2014.
[01:21:49.480 --> 01:21:59.760]  They came with four charges, more than the allowed limit of unregistered cars in the
[01:21:59.760 --> 01:22:00.760]  driveway.
[01:22:00.760 --> 01:22:03.720]  I took care of that.
[01:22:03.720 --> 01:22:09.800]  Another thing was the fence needed repairing around the pool, needed to be heightened.
[01:22:09.800 --> 01:22:11.680]  I took care of that.
[01:22:11.680 --> 01:22:19.080]  A third thing was a large storage unit, which I had since before their ordinance prohibiting
[01:22:19.080 --> 01:22:21.760]  them went into effect.
[01:22:21.760 --> 01:22:22.760]  I told them that.
[01:22:22.760 --> 01:22:25.400]  I had the documentation.
[01:22:25.400 --> 01:22:26.400]  That was fine.
[01:22:26.400 --> 01:22:32.480]  The driveway was straightened up, everything was signed off on, everything, they backed
[01:22:32.480 --> 01:22:35.000]  off.
[01:22:35.000 --> 01:22:39.840]  And I believe they had issued summons that they were, you know, they had filed a claim
[01:22:39.840 --> 01:22:42.720]  at that point or a complaint.
[01:22:42.720 --> 01:22:45.640]  Do you feel like they're singling you out?
[01:22:45.640 --> 01:22:48.000]  Do you feel like this is malicious prosecution?
[01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:52.120]  They're just totally focused on you, or are they just picking on everybody in that neighborhood?
[01:22:52.120 --> 01:22:53.640]  No, no.
[01:22:53.640 --> 01:23:00.040]  Me in particular, because of the guy that lives across the street, nonstop complaining
[01:23:00.040 --> 01:23:06.760]  about me to the point, one point in this whole fiasco, the ordinance, you know, the head
[01:23:06.760 --> 01:23:12.640]  of the code inspection, code enforcement, said, yeah, if I never hear from that guy
[01:23:12.640 --> 01:23:17.520]  again, it'll be too soon, because he was haranguing them.
[01:23:17.520 --> 01:23:26.640]  But anyways, so in 2014, it was all resolved.
[01:23:26.640 --> 01:23:27.640]  Everything was fine.
[01:23:27.640 --> 01:23:32.680]  The neighbor actually, at that point, there was, you know, that's when the tensions kind
[01:23:32.680 --> 01:23:34.560]  of flared up because of all this.
[01:23:34.560 --> 01:23:40.160]  He was, he had made a death threat, he was harassing me, and I just gave him too many
[01:23:40.160 --> 01:23:49.320]  passes, but he was, he came across the street one day and said, hey, I'm all set, I'm sorry,
[01:23:49.320 --> 01:23:51.760]  I got no problem with you, I apologize.
[01:23:51.760 --> 01:23:56.080]  It was because another neighbor told him, yeah, everything was fine, until some asshole
[01:23:56.080 --> 01:23:58.360]  moved into the neighborhood, excuse my French.
[01:23:58.360 --> 01:24:04.680]  Wait a minute, you can't say that, you can only say anus rectum.
[01:24:04.680 --> 01:24:12.600]  Anus rectum moved into the neighborhood and started causing some defecation.
[01:24:12.600 --> 01:24:20.960]  And that changed the guy's attitude across the street, came over, apologized, I accepted,
[01:24:20.960 --> 01:24:25.480]  things were fine, you know, I wouldn't say we were friends again, yeah, and I've also
[01:24:25.480 --> 01:24:34.160]  known this guy for 50 years, which is crazy, but so, you know, and I don't know what made
[01:24:34.160 --> 01:24:38.640]  the change and turned him into hating me.
[01:24:38.640 --> 01:24:43.680]  I really don't, I mean, he doesn't like the way, I mean, I, I'm not going to get into
[01:24:43.680 --> 01:24:49.040]  the whole story tonight, I will be calling back in the future, but so, I just want to
[01:24:49.040 --> 01:25:00.520]  finish my overall, this started in 2014 was resolved, in 2017, the town came on the property,
[01:25:00.520 --> 01:25:06.800]  I would happen to be home in the middle of the day, and I told the guy to get off the
[01:25:06.800 --> 01:25:11.120]  property if he wanted to take pictures, get out in the street.
[01:25:11.120 --> 01:25:16.040]  And I wasn't getting along too well at that particular time with my brother, who is the
[01:25:16.040 --> 01:25:25.800]  trustee of the trust, which the house is in, but the house technically and not contested
[01:25:25.800 --> 01:25:30.400]  by my brother or anything is mine, my inherent.
[01:25:30.400 --> 01:25:37.600]  My brother says, oh, go ahead and take pictures, and, and I told the guy, no, get out of here,
[01:25:37.600 --> 01:25:42.480]  you can't take pictures, and he went to take pictures, and I, I don't want to really say
[01:25:42.480 --> 01:25:48.760]  what I did, Brett knows, I told him, and kind of broke the tension and everybody was
[01:25:48.760 --> 01:25:53.400]  chuckling, and then I told them both my brother and the guy to leave, and they left.
[01:25:53.400 --> 01:26:01.000]  So I had kicked the town off the property in the past, so, but they went ahead with
[01:26:01.000 --> 01:26:07.720]  the war, or they went ahead with their actions or whatever the letters at this point, and
[01:26:07.720 --> 01:26:14.240]  they had a deadline, well, the yard was cleaned up and straightened out, and the other things
[01:26:14.240 --> 01:26:22.160]  once again didn't exist, they brought all the things from 2014 to 2017, going into 2018
[01:26:22.160 --> 01:26:31.320]  and the fourth day it was, they brought everything that had been resolved in 2014 back to bear
[01:26:31.320 --> 01:26:37.240]  in 2017, and it didn't exist, they said there's no cars here unregistered, there's no fence
[01:26:37.240 --> 01:26:43.840]  broken, the storage unit, the same, you know, still grandfathered, I have the receipt, here
[01:26:43.840 --> 01:26:50.040]  it is, and they, and then when my brother went, and my brother and I were on good terms
[01:26:50.040 --> 01:26:54.680]  at this point, because we were kind of both on the same, we got, they were going after
[01:26:54.680 --> 01:27:02.280]  him too, is the trustee, we're going after the trust actually, my dead parents' names
[01:27:02.280 --> 01:27:10.160]  as the trust, anyways, so he went to the town and said, we come inspect the property, this
[01:27:10.160 --> 01:27:19.800]  is before the deadline, they said get a lawyer, they wouldn't come and inspect the property,
[01:27:19.800 --> 01:27:25.680]  so as the court date was approaching, I was getting a little, you know, I didn't know
[01:27:25.680 --> 01:27:30.920]  what to do, I called my state rep and he said, you know what, told him my story, he said
[01:27:30.920 --> 01:27:39.640]  go to the town manager and talk to him, he's reasonable, tell him what you told me, so
[01:27:39.640 --> 01:27:45.560]  I did, had it cleaned up, cleared up with him, I told him the story, I said you guys wouldn't
[01:27:45.560 --> 01:27:50.320]  come and inspect the property, now you're taking me to court, I said, you know, that's
[01:27:50.320 --> 01:27:56.040]  not right, and I think it would be in all of our best interests if this just goes away,
[01:27:56.040 --> 01:28:00.560]  in other words, I don't want to have to do anything to you for messing with me, just
[01:28:00.560 --> 01:28:10.600]  make it go away, and he agreed, and you know, when we talked a bit and everything, he says
[01:28:10.600 --> 01:28:20.000]  well, I'll talk to the code enforcement, you know, have the lawyer draw something up,
[01:28:20.000 --> 01:28:23.240]  and then as we were shaking hands at the end of the meeting, he goes, you know, I'd like
[01:28:23.240 --> 01:28:28.600]  to have another meeting with you and me and the code enforcement, so this never happens
[01:28:28.600 --> 01:28:37.080]  again, I said great, me too, because I have some questions, so I was in the town hall
[01:28:37.080 --> 01:28:44.560]  every month to pay some back taxes, I'd go in and pay in cash, and not every time, but
[01:28:44.560 --> 01:28:49.560]  very often I'd go up to his office to see if I could set up that meeting, or you know,
[01:28:49.560 --> 01:28:55.080]  just let him know what was going on, and I never could catch him, he never called me
[01:28:55.080 --> 01:29:01.840]  back, you know, in phone calls too, he never returned my phone calls, and it wasn't a big
[01:29:01.840 --> 01:29:07.600]  deal to me, it was, you know, I was just trying to follow up, and I guess he's a busy guy,
[01:29:07.600 --> 01:29:13.960]  and then I run into him around Thanksgiving, and I say to him, oh, because this is what
[01:29:13.960 --> 01:29:20.160]  happened after the, he and I cleared it up, the neighbors started in again with a death
[01:29:20.160 --> 01:29:24.520]  threat, and her, correct, okay, wait, wait, we need to move a little more quickly, we're
[01:29:24.520 --> 01:29:35.360]  out of time, okay, so, so, I saw him a couple times, and then during that time, I did not
[01:29:35.360 --> 01:29:39.760]  understand that there was a call enforcement officer coming on my property in front and
[01:29:39.760 --> 01:29:46.040]  taking pictures in front of no trespassing sign, and so I got court papers in my door
[01:29:46.040 --> 01:29:53.600]  in March, okay, hold on, court papers in March, we'll pick this up on the other side, Brandon
[01:29:53.600 --> 01:29:58.600]  Kelton, Brett Fountain, move our radio, we'll be right back.
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[01:33:36.200 --> 01:33:49.360]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio and Sam, we need to move
[01:33:49.360 --> 01:33:56.200]  quickly. We've got 30 minutes and two more callers, three more callers. So we need to
[01:33:56.200 --> 01:34:07.200]  move relatively quickly. Okay, go ahead and instead of giving us the whole rundown, tell
[01:34:07.200 --> 01:34:15.720]  us what it is you wanted to address. So the court, when I lost the hearing, the judge
[01:34:15.720 --> 01:34:25.040]  ruled in the town's favor that I had violated their ordinance. The judge awarded the town
[01:34:25.040 --> 01:34:30.200]  the legal fees. It ordered me to pay the legal fees for the town, which amounted to about
[01:34:30.200 --> 01:34:41.680]  $6,000 and to arrange a payment schedule and which everything I ignored. So that's what
[01:34:41.680 --> 01:34:48.920]  they were coming after. And I guess I just... Oh, it's just that collection. That's it.
[01:34:48.920 --> 01:34:56.600]  That's what I told the officers that were arrested. Okay, did you barge into the lawyers?
[01:34:56.600 --> 01:35:07.320]  So... Okay, you got to understand. It's not about law. You know, we just show is rule
[01:35:07.320 --> 01:35:16.240]  of law radio. But we understand that the law at the end of the day really doesn't matter.
[01:35:16.240 --> 01:35:25.800]  Everything is political and all politics is local. So the best politics you can get against
[01:35:25.800 --> 01:35:31.440]  the law firm who's trying to collect from you is bug grievance or two. You know what
[01:35:31.440 --> 01:35:40.640]  happens if you barge evil lawyer? Yes. Is insurance rates go up? Yeah, the state
[01:35:40.640 --> 01:35:46.520]  barge get into on the trash, but it'll double his malpractice insurance. So barge is the
[01:35:46.520 --> 01:35:49.680]  lawyers. Oh, I plan on it. You know why? Because before
[01:35:49.680 --> 01:35:54.880]  the final hearing, he offered me, you know, hey, he goes, if you just want to settle this
[01:35:54.880 --> 01:36:02.840]  now and pay my legal fees, basically, they're only $2,000 now. Oh, no. Before he said that,
[01:36:02.840 --> 01:36:09.040]  this is what he said. So I guess I can assume you're not the richest man in town. And he
[01:36:09.040 --> 01:36:17.000]  said this in front of the guy that was going to be the witness, the guy that trespass actually
[01:36:17.000 --> 01:36:20.920]  physically trespass on my property and took the pictures was standing right there when
[01:36:20.920 --> 01:36:28.440]  he said the outside the courtroom in the lobby. And so I'm going to barger even for that.
[01:36:28.440 --> 01:36:33.880]  That was not very nice. Thank you. Okay. What are you waiting for?
[01:36:33.880 --> 01:36:45.320]  Well, present time. I mean, I just got to get busy. But I guess I don't know how well,
[01:36:45.320 --> 01:36:52.080]  I wanted to kind of deal with what I have to now. And I guess that is dealing with what
[01:36:52.080 --> 01:36:58.320]  I have to know. You bet. You start barger even that lawyer. And he's gonna want to find
[01:36:58.320 --> 01:37:06.760]  a hole to get into. Barger even for something real nitpicking. I just bargerived a prosecutor
[01:37:06.760 --> 01:37:15.320]  because he talked to me in a way that I did not find to be civil. He hurt my feelings.
[01:37:15.320 --> 01:37:22.720]  So I bargerived him. You hurt my feelings again. I'll bargerive you again. And I won't
[01:37:22.720 --> 01:37:28.200]  even feel bad about it. So come mess with me, Bubba. Best fight to have the one you
[01:37:28.200 --> 01:37:29.200]  picked.
[01:37:29.200 --> 01:37:36.760]  So in my hearing when I was in the can over a couple days ago, the judge ordered that
[01:37:36.760 --> 01:37:42.640]  I meet with the town, you know, on phone, you know, by via phone or however, within
[01:37:42.640 --> 01:37:48.960]  a week and set up a payment schedule and took the $500 that I was putting up to the bail
[01:37:48.960 --> 01:37:49.960]  bond.
[01:37:49.960 --> 01:37:58.280]  Wait a minute. Whoa. Hold on. You got arrested. Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought I said that
[01:37:58.280 --> 01:37:59.280]  at the beginning.
[01:37:59.280 --> 01:38:00.280]  What were you arrested for?
[01:38:00.280 --> 01:38:08.160]  For, well, I don't have the warrant in front of me. And I don't have the summons that I
[01:38:08.160 --> 01:38:09.160]  believe.
[01:38:09.160 --> 01:38:14.600]  Okay. Okay. We are running out of time tonight. And would you call back next week and have
[01:38:14.600 --> 01:38:16.920]  this information available for us?
[01:38:16.920 --> 01:38:20.360]  Absolutely. I'll e-mail you some things, too.
[01:38:20.360 --> 01:38:28.560]  Yeah, do that. Randy at ruleoflawradio.com. We got so many ways to beat these guys up.
[01:38:28.560 --> 01:38:30.360]  You won't believe it.
[01:38:30.360 --> 01:38:32.280]  No, I thought...
[01:38:32.280 --> 01:38:39.840]  Okay. We don't beat them up out of maliciousness. I think of my public officials like I do
[01:38:39.840 --> 01:38:45.160]  my grandkids. I love them dearly, but sometimes they need to be disciplined.
[01:38:45.160 --> 01:38:47.680]  I got you.
[01:38:47.680 --> 01:38:55.640]  So beating them up is not mean or vindictive. It's discipline. You are in a republic. You
[01:38:55.640 --> 01:39:03.520]  are a citizen in the republic. It is your duty to ensure that your public officials
[01:39:03.520 --> 01:39:09.480]  follow law. And sometimes you have to spank them a little bit.
[01:39:09.480 --> 01:39:11.640]  Yeah, I have a lot of...
[01:39:11.640 --> 01:39:16.760]  Just as good a rationalization as any...
[01:39:16.760 --> 01:39:17.760]  I'm sorry?
[01:39:17.760 --> 01:39:25.800]  That's as good a rationalization as any. So give us all the facts so next week we can
[01:39:25.800 --> 01:39:29.640]  carve out a plan to go after them.
[01:39:29.640 --> 01:39:31.880]  I will, Randy. Thank you.
[01:39:31.880 --> 01:39:36.440]  This is so much fun. You won't believe it.
[01:39:36.440 --> 01:39:46.360]  It's like a... And one thing to understand, lawyers are low-hanging fruit. They are the
[01:39:46.360 --> 01:39:52.320]  most vulnerable. Okay, I do need to move along. Call us next week and we'll go into this
[01:39:52.320 --> 01:39:54.600]  in more depth.
[01:39:54.600 --> 01:39:55.600]  Thank you.
[01:39:55.600 --> 01:40:02.360]  Thank you, Sam. Now we're going to go to E.J. in California. Hello, E.J.
[01:40:02.360 --> 01:40:07.360]  Hi. Can you hear me?
[01:40:07.360 --> 01:40:11.880]  Howdy. Yes, I can. Did you get my in-limit emotion?
[01:40:11.880 --> 01:40:25.080]  Yes. Thank you so much. And I replied. I have to go through that this weekend. But I have...
[01:40:25.080 --> 01:40:35.480]  I went to my hearing today and they just tried to... Well, he's already put a P.D., Public
[01:40:35.480 --> 01:40:36.480]  Defender.
[01:40:36.480 --> 01:40:40.840]  Oh, good. Good. He gave you a Public Defender?
[01:40:40.840 --> 01:40:43.240]  Yes. You think that...
[01:40:43.240 --> 01:40:45.240]  Oh, wonderful. Wonderful.
[01:40:45.240 --> 01:40:51.120]  Yeah. He gives you some place to put that nose ring.
[01:40:51.120 --> 01:40:57.720]  Yes. See, the Public Defender, they want you to have a lawyer because they can control
[01:40:57.720 --> 01:41:05.320]  lawyers. Lawyers go to law school and they teach them all about how to argue legal issues.
[01:41:05.320 --> 01:41:11.000]  What they don't teach them is how law works in the real world. They never tell lawyers
[01:41:11.000 --> 01:41:15.800]  that when you get out into the real world, you're going to spend the rest of your professional
[01:41:15.800 --> 01:41:22.200]  career kissing some arrogant judges behind. Because if you don't, he'll either sanction
[01:41:22.200 --> 01:41:27.280]  you or jerk your bar card.
[01:41:27.280 --> 01:41:33.240]  So they appoint you a Public Defender because they think they can control the Public Defender.
[01:41:33.240 --> 01:41:41.600]  Well, once they appoint the Public Defender, the Public Defender enters into a contract
[01:41:41.600 --> 01:41:52.200]  with the state, not with you. However, you are the intended third party beneficiary for
[01:41:52.200 --> 01:42:01.640]  the contract, and you have power to enforce the contract. So when the lawyer doesn't do
[01:42:01.640 --> 01:42:07.320]  what you want him to do, you bar-greave him. And he's going to have a conniption fit and
[01:42:07.320 --> 01:42:13.160]  run to the judge and ask the judge to remove him from the case. And you go to the judge
[01:42:13.160 --> 01:42:18.560]  and say, don't you dare remove him from the case? He's my counsel of choice, and he's
[01:42:18.560 --> 01:42:24.680]  under contract. When I told this to a lawyer, they had appointed for me, he said, Mr. Cousin,
[01:42:24.680 --> 01:42:28.120]  I'm not under contract with you. I'm under contract with the state. I said, yes, you
[01:42:28.120 --> 01:42:35.400]  are. But I'm the intended third party beneficiary, and I have standing under the contract. And
[01:42:35.400 --> 01:42:47.400]  I told him that I had 19 issues before the court, and I told him you will adequately
[01:42:47.400 --> 01:42:53.800]  adjudicate every single one of them. If you fail to adequately adjudicate a single one
[01:42:53.800 --> 01:43:02.920]  of them, I'll bar-greave you. Mr. Cousin, you would grieve me and a heartbeat? Well,
[01:43:02.920 --> 01:43:08.680]  I don't like to be threatened. So I didn't tend that as a threat. You see, you cannot
[01:43:08.680 --> 01:43:15.560]  threaten to do anything that you have the right to do. If you tell someone you're going
[01:43:15.560 --> 01:43:21.760]  to do something you have the right to do, that's not a threat. That's fair warning.
[01:43:21.760 --> 01:43:25.200]  And I told him, so I was just trying to give you fair warning. But if you don't want me
[01:43:25.200 --> 01:43:31.640]  to in the future, no problem. We'll just follow the code. Well, that's not what he wanted.
[01:43:31.640 --> 01:43:36.120]  Well, initially, when they appointed him, you know, I told him that, you know, you're
[01:43:36.120 --> 01:43:44.880]  going to adjudicate all these things. And if you don't, I'm sorry, I told him we're
[01:43:44.880 --> 01:43:51.320]  about to run out of time. What's the end of this segment? Randy Calton, Rhett Fountain,
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[01:46:24.560 --> 01:46:41.400]  Okay, we are back. We're here to help Brett Phelps in rule of law radio, and we're talking
[01:46:41.400 --> 01:46:48.880]  to E.J. in California. And I had a busy break. I lost where we were at, E.J.
[01:46:48.880 --> 01:46:58.400]  Hi, yes. So, you're talking about the PD having a contract?
[01:46:58.400 --> 01:47:04.880]  Oh, the lawyer, yeah. Okay. The good thing about them appointing you a lawyer, you see,
[01:47:04.880 --> 01:47:10.360]  they want to appoint you a lawyer because they think they can control the lawyer. But
[01:47:10.360 --> 01:47:18.520]  having a lawyer in court is like sitting at a four-sided chessboard. You sit at the table
[01:47:18.520 --> 01:47:25.080]  and to your right is your attorney. To your left is opposing counsel, and across from
[01:47:25.080 --> 01:47:31.400]  you is the judge. You have a relationship with your lawyer. Your lawyer has a relationship
[01:47:31.400 --> 01:47:38.760]  with you, opposing counsel, and the judge. Opposing counsel has a relationship with your
[01:47:38.760 --> 01:47:47.400]  lawyer and the judge. You're the odd person out. If you are to win your case, you need
[01:47:47.400 --> 01:47:55.240]  to get into this relationship. And the way you do that is you hammer your lawyer. If
[01:47:55.240 --> 01:48:01.520]  he's court appointed, first thing you do is ask him to do something to adjudicate your
[01:48:01.520 --> 01:48:07.920]  case, and he's going to refuse. You bar-greave him. And when you bar-greave him, he's going
[01:48:07.920 --> 01:48:13.480]  to go to the court and ask the court to remove him from the case. And you go to the court
[01:48:13.480 --> 01:48:17.680]  and say, don't you dare remove him from the case? He's my counsel of choice, which you
[01:48:17.680 --> 01:48:22.920]  have a constitutional right to. And he's under contract. And he's going to tell you, like
[01:48:22.920 --> 01:48:28.000]  mine did, well, Mr. Kelton, I'm under contract, but I'm under contract with the state, not
[01:48:28.000 --> 01:48:34.600]  with you. I said, yes, you are. But I'm the intended third-party beneficiary, and I have
[01:48:34.600 --> 01:48:39.880]  standing under the contract. And then if the judge removes you from the contract, removes
[01:48:39.880 --> 01:48:45.000]  him from the contract, you get to sue the judge for interfering with a private contract.
[01:48:45.000 --> 01:48:50.960]  And when what will happen is he'll move to be removed, you go to the court and tell him,
[01:48:50.960 --> 01:48:56.440]  don't you dare remove him from this case. He is my counsel of choice, and he's under
[01:48:56.440 --> 01:49:02.720]  contract. If the judge then removes him from the case, you get to sue the judge for interfering
[01:49:02.720 --> 01:49:09.720]  with a private contract. But in our experience, when a lawyer asks to be removed, you get
[01:49:09.720 --> 01:49:18.040]  removed, and the client objects, the judge does not want to be sued for interfering with
[01:49:18.040 --> 01:49:24.640]  a private contract. The last one we did, the judge said, counselor, you're going to have
[01:49:24.640 --> 01:49:33.720]  to work this out with your client. Okay, now you've got your lawyer by the excuse, the
[01:49:33.720 --> 01:49:46.400]  expression by the testicles. He's stuck. He's got an unruly client, and this unruly client
[01:49:46.400 --> 01:49:53.320]  is likely to ruin his career. Court appointed counsel are generally young lawyers learning
[01:49:53.320 --> 01:50:00.160]  how the system works. Young lawyers, first year of practice, if you get a bar grievance,
[01:50:00.160 --> 01:50:06.040]  they will cancel your malpractice insurance immediately. Two bar grievances, any one
[01:50:06.040 --> 01:50:11.720]  year of practice, they'll cancel. Three, they'll cancel your law firm's malpractice insurance.
[01:50:11.720 --> 01:50:20.720]  So when your counsel attempts to withdraw after he refuses to file a motion in your defense,
[01:50:20.720 --> 01:50:27.080]  and he won't refuse because he doesn't believe that it's warranted, he'll refuse because
[01:50:27.080 --> 01:50:37.400]  he's afraid of upsetting the judge. So you want to stick your boot up the judges behind.
[01:50:37.400 --> 01:50:44.760]  You don't care about the judge. You know, a judge can screw these lawyers. I was in
[01:50:44.760 --> 01:50:50.600]  court and a lawyer, across from me, I was helping people with foreclosure issues with
[01:50:50.600 --> 01:50:55.280]  the evictions, and you can do that without being a lawyer. And the lawyer said, Mr. House,
[01:50:55.280 --> 01:51:00.160]  I'm like, you're an attorney. And she was furious at me because I'd already bar-grieved her.
[01:51:00.160 --> 01:51:04.880]  Oh, no, no, no, I sleep well at night and keep my hands in my own pockets. Thank you
[01:51:04.880 --> 01:51:11.800]  very much. And besides, I looked up at the judge and said, and he knew me really well.
[01:51:11.800 --> 01:51:19.800]  And besides, I'm not here dangling by my bar card. I'm telling the judge that I'm the least
[01:51:19.800 --> 01:51:26.480]  bit afraid of you. Now, you may be able to control these lawyers, you mess with me, and
[01:51:26.480 --> 01:51:34.440]  I'll put you in front of a grand jury. So let's dance. When the lawyer goes to the court
[01:51:34.440 --> 01:51:39.400]  and has to be removed from the case, and you tell the lawyer, the judge, don't you dare
[01:51:39.400 --> 01:51:45.120]  remove him from the case? The judge knows if he removes him from the case, then you
[01:51:45.120 --> 01:51:52.680]  sue the lawyer, the judge for interfering with a private contract. Now, you don't want
[01:51:52.680 --> 01:51:53.680]  to...
[01:51:53.680 --> 01:52:00.080]  He knows that you're going to hold him accountable for that. That's a constitutionally secured.
[01:52:00.080 --> 01:52:11.120]  Yeah, the Sixth Amendment. The federal government may not interfere with private contracts.
[01:52:11.120 --> 01:52:19.160]  So this is not to beat up your lawyer. It's to give your lawyer a possible deniability
[01:52:19.160 --> 01:52:26.000]  so he can actually do his job. Don't blame me, judge. I know you'd rather be out playing
[01:52:26.000 --> 01:52:30.400]  golf, but I got this unruly client and he's going to ruin my career. You got to help
[01:52:30.400 --> 01:52:39.200]  me out. They dismissed the last case against me in Travis County to protect my lawyer from
[01:52:39.200 --> 01:52:47.080]  me. Once you got that down, everything changes.
[01:52:47.080 --> 01:52:59.080]  Well, I tried to fire her. I just wrote a letter saying that this is the last hearing.
[01:52:59.080 --> 01:53:10.560]  She kind of waved over, come to the podium in front of the judge. I didn't find anything
[01:53:10.560 --> 01:53:15.480]  saying that I need a public defender or anything like that. It was just in front of the judge.
[01:53:15.480 --> 01:53:16.480]  It goes, well...
[01:53:16.480 --> 01:53:25.280]  Okay, okay. Hold on. We're going to run short of time here. Send me another email and ask
[01:53:25.280 --> 01:53:33.520]  me for my motion to dismiss. I have a motion to dismiss. I just finished that. It's a product
[01:53:33.520 --> 01:53:44.000]  of almost 40 years of legal research. It doesn't matter what you were charged with. What county
[01:53:44.000 --> 01:53:45.000]  are you in?
[01:53:45.000 --> 01:53:47.000]  I'm in Orange County.
[01:53:47.000 --> 01:53:56.960]  Oh, wait a minute. You're in California. My mistake. This is a Texas issue. You brought
[01:53:56.960 --> 01:54:06.040]  before a magistrate and did the magistrate hold an examining trial or preliminary hearing?
[01:54:06.040 --> 01:54:17.360]  No, I was never arrested or anything like that. They just put in a letter from just the DA
[01:54:17.360 --> 01:54:22.160]  saying that I need to appear. They're going to...
[01:54:22.160 --> 01:54:29.680]  Okay. We need to talk off the air. We're getting too many calls, so we can't explore these
[01:54:29.680 --> 01:54:38.840]  issues as deeply as I'd like to on the air. If you will call me tomorrow. Send me an email.
[01:54:38.840 --> 01:54:47.560]  I'll give you a phone number and a time. We'll work out a time where we can do a phone call
[01:54:47.560 --> 01:54:54.000]  and I can examine this in more detail and give you a better idea how to do this. Are
[01:54:54.000 --> 01:54:57.760]  you in North Central or Southern California?
[01:54:57.760 --> 01:54:59.760]  Southern.
[01:54:59.760 --> 01:55:07.200]  Okay, good. I have someone I might want to get you in contact with in California. You
[01:55:07.200 --> 01:55:13.080]  may have a little trouble understanding her because she speaks a strange foreign accent.
[01:55:13.080 --> 01:55:22.080]  She's from England. You think she lived in America, she would learn how to speak the
[01:55:22.080 --> 01:55:29.560]  language. This is Tina Colbrook and we have great fun at her expense. She has a delightful
[01:55:29.560 --> 01:55:36.760]  English accent, but she's someone close and she is very powerful in this area. Send me
[01:55:36.760 --> 01:55:42.320]  an email. Let's talk about this off the air where we'll have more time and we can work
[01:55:42.320 --> 01:55:44.920]  out a formula and how to go after them.
[01:55:44.920 --> 01:55:48.640]  Okay, sounds good. Thank you so much.
[01:55:48.640 --> 01:55:52.840]  And I'll pause you for using up all the time, but we'll make up for it.
[01:55:52.840 --> 01:55:54.840]  Okay, thank you.
[01:55:54.840 --> 01:55:55.840]  Thank you, E.J.
[01:55:55.840 --> 01:55:56.840]  All right.
[01:55:56.840 --> 01:56:05.840]  Okay, now we're going to Scott in Michigan. Hello, Scott. What do you have for us today?
[01:56:05.840 --> 01:56:12.240]  Well, I guess I'll keep it short and sweet, but the police showed up at a house that I
[01:56:12.240 --> 01:56:16.040]  was at and I didn't feel like I want to play questions and answers with them, so I headed
[01:56:16.040 --> 01:56:21.320]  out the back door and they came chasing out there and I got to my car, got in and they
[01:56:21.320 --> 01:56:27.640]  started screaming, get out, get out, get out. One of them had a gun drawn and I asked them
[01:56:27.640 --> 01:56:34.160]  what crime they suspected me of and they said, that's what we're trying to figure out.
[01:56:34.160 --> 01:56:41.240]  Wow, wait a minute. They pointed a gun at you when they're trying to figure out if there's
[01:56:41.240 --> 01:56:42.240]  a gun.
[01:56:42.240 --> 01:56:44.240]  They must have figured it out. Wow.
[01:56:44.240 --> 01:56:50.240]  That's aggravated assault the way I read the codes in every state.
[01:56:50.240 --> 01:56:56.440]  Yep, I would agree. But I heard you talking about the numbers on that, it's not very promising.
[01:56:56.440 --> 01:57:02.600]  It's, you know, 20,000 cases of aggravated assault against an officer, zero cases of
[01:57:02.600 --> 01:57:05.160]  aggravated assault by an officer.
[01:57:05.160 --> 01:57:09.520]  I know, that's because they always settle out of court.
[01:57:09.520 --> 01:57:11.520]  Oh, okay.
[01:57:11.520 --> 01:57:21.440]  So, great case in Cincinnati, Ohio, two black guys purchased a house at auction. It's in
[01:57:21.440 --> 01:57:26.680]  a white neighborhood. They go up on the porch, they got this little lock box hanging on the
[01:57:26.680 --> 01:57:32.720]  doorknob and they have a little trouble with the combination. They get the key out and
[01:57:32.720 --> 01:57:39.760]  go in, guy across the street, a retired cop, two black guys, white neighborhood, fumbled
[01:57:39.760 --> 01:57:43.720]  with the lock for a while, didn't look right, he called the police.
[01:57:43.720 --> 01:57:50.960]  Police come out, bring the guys out. One of the guys got annoyed at the police and they
[01:57:50.960 --> 01:57:57.520]  cuffed them both for their safety and apologized for it. The police were really professional.
[01:57:57.520 --> 01:58:05.080]  They figured out that they were okay and after 20 minutes and apologized and released them
[01:58:05.080 --> 01:58:07.600]  and everything was okay. They sued.
[01:58:07.600 --> 01:58:13.760]  Is it also due process if they have the guns up or the crime is figured out?
[01:58:13.760 --> 01:58:20.480]  And that's aggravated assault. Okay, point is these guys sued and the city settled for
[01:58:20.480 --> 01:58:28.920]  $170,000 and they didn't point guns at these guys.
[01:58:28.920 --> 01:58:40.280]  Yeah. Okay, send me an email with a timeline. Let's talk about this. We are out of time.
[01:58:40.280 --> 01:58:50.560]  Randy Kalman, Brett Fountain, RulaVar Radio. Thank you all for listening and good night.
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