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[00:42.600 --> 00:52.240]  Today in history, the year 1916, the Preparedness Day bombing, a timed suitcase bomb was detonated
[00:52.240 --> 00:57.560]  on Market Street in San Francisco during the World War I Preparedness Day parade, killing
[00:57.560 --> 01:04.560]  10 and injuring 40.
[01:04.560 --> 01:09.240]  In recent news, since Governor Greg Abbott signed House Bill 1325 legalizing hemp and
[01:09.240 --> 01:13.840]  a Texas law back in June, county prosecutors around the state, including Houston, Austin,
[01:13.840 --> 01:17.880]  and San Antonio, have been dropping marijuana possession charges and even refusing to file
[01:17.880 --> 01:22.560]  new ones since they are stipulating that they do not have the time or the laboratory equipment
[01:22.560 --> 01:24.600]  to test the herb for THC.
[01:24.600 --> 01:28.240]  Margaret Moore, the Travis County District Attorney announced earlier this month that
[01:28.240 --> 01:33.160]  she was dismissing 32 felony possession and delivery of marijuana cases because of the
[01:33.160 --> 01:34.160]  law.
[01:34.160 --> 01:37.400]  Mr. Abbott and other state officials, including the Attorney General, stipulated in a letter
[01:37.400 --> 01:41.920]  to county district attorneys back on Thursday that marijuana has not been decriminalized
[01:41.920 --> 01:48.040]  in Texas and that these actions demonstrate a misunderstanding of how HB 1325 works, as
[01:48.040 --> 01:54.200]  well as other cities too, like the District Attorney in El Paso, Jaime Esparza, a Democrat
[01:54.200 --> 01:58.760]  who also stated earlier this month that the law, quote, will not have an effect on the
[01:58.760 --> 02:01.440]  prosecution of marijuana cases in El Paso.
[02:01.440 --> 02:06.520]  However, the issue was succinctly summarized by Mr. Brandon Ball, an assistant public defender
[02:06.520 --> 02:10.880]  in Harris County who stated that, quote, the law is constantly changing on what makes something
[02:10.880 --> 02:13.240]  illegal based on its chemical makeup.
[02:13.240 --> 02:17.120]  It's important that if someone is charged with something, the test matches what they're
[02:17.120 --> 02:22.320]  charged with.
[02:22.320 --> 02:27.120]  A paper by Tulane University identified a five and a half inch American pocket shark
[02:27.120 --> 02:32.240]  as the first of its kind in the Gulf of Mexico, the specimen being only the second pocket
[02:32.240 --> 02:37.880]  shark ever captured or recorded with the other one being found way back in 1979 in the East
[02:37.880 --> 02:39.360]  Pacific Ocean.
[02:39.360 --> 02:43.660]  According to the university paper, the shark secretes a luminous fluid from a gland near
[02:43.660 --> 02:45.520]  its front fins.
[02:45.520 --> 02:53.720]  For the purpose, it is hypothesized to lure and prey who may be drawn into the glow.
[02:53.720 --> 03:22.320]  This is Brooke Rode with your lowdown for July 22nd, 2019.
[03:23.720 --> 03:35.680]  What's going to do when they come for you, bad boys, bad boys, what you're going to do,
[03:35.680 --> 03:40.680]  what you're going to do when they come for you, when you were and you had bad dreams,
[03:40.680 --> 03:43.720]  you go to school and learn the golden rule.
[03:43.720 --> 03:46.560]  So why are you acting like a bloody fool?
[03:46.560 --> 04:03.720]  Good, bad good is how you burn itpherds, bad boys, bad boys what you're going to do, what
[04:03.720 --> 04:04.240]  you're going to do when they come for you.
[04:04.240 --> 04:04.700]  Bad boys, bad boys, what you're going to do, what you're going to do when they coming for
[04:04.700 --> 04:04.960]  you.
[04:04.960 --> 04:04.980]  You chuck it on your mother and you chuck it on your father.
[04:04.980 --> 04:05.060]  You chuck it on your brother and you chuck it on your sister.
[04:05.060 --> 04:05.240]  You chuck it on that one, and you chuck it on me.
[04:05.240 --> 04:05.520]  Bad boys, bad boys, what you're going to do, what you're going to do, when they come for
[04:05.520 --> 04:07.080]  you, bad boys, bad boys, what you're going to do, what you're going to do when you Lee
[04:07.080 --> 04:11.080]  Leeaim volatility is one of my run offs.
[04:11.080 --> 04:16.440]  I don't know who I am, there's still one thing I can give you that's no industry for
[04:16.440 --> 04:22.840]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do Cause when they get you, bad boys, bad boys
[04:22.840 --> 04:27.800]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do Cause when they get you, bad boys, bad boys
[04:27.800 --> 04:30.360]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do Cause when they get you, bad boys, bad boys
[04:30.360 --> 04:30.460]  Whatcha gonna do when they come for you, nobody gonna give you no break
[04:30.460 --> 04:35.680]  What you gonna do when they come for you Nobody not give you no break
[04:35.680 --> 04:40.260]  Police not give you no breaks An old soldier might not give you no break
[04:40.260 --> 04:45.640]  Not even your writer not give you no breaks Bad boys, bad boys
[04:45.640 --> 04:49.260]  What you gonna do, a watcha gonna do when they come for you
[04:49.260 --> 04:52.120]  Bad boys, bad boys A watcha gonna do
[04:52.120 --> 04:56.200]  A watcha gonna do when they come for you Bad boys, bad boys
[04:56.200 --> 05:00.060]  A watcha gonna do, a watcha gonna do when they come for you
[05:00.060 --> 05:07.060]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[05:31.060 --> 05:43.060]  Okay, call in number 512-646-1984, turning on the caller page. Caller page is up.
[05:43.060 --> 05:44.060]  The phone lines?
[05:44.060 --> 05:45.060]  Did I say caller page?
[05:45.060 --> 05:47.060]  We know which, man.
[05:47.060 --> 05:52.060]  Wait a minute. You guys aren't supposed to hear caller page. That's what we call it in the background.
[05:52.060 --> 05:55.060]  Phone lines are turned on. Give us a call.
[05:55.060 --> 06:07.060]  512-646-1984. And I want to start out by talking about my day today. It was frustrating.
[06:07.060 --> 06:20.060]  If you've been listening to the show a while, you've probably heard me talk about the problem with people who have been in the fight too long.
[06:20.060 --> 06:35.060]  I went down to Cleveland, Texas and met with a remarkable woman. She is extremely knowledgeable and has spent years studying and researching.
[06:35.060 --> 06:58.060]  She's a member of the Republic of Texas. My concern was that she is studying processes and procedures that are presented by people who are acting in the best of faith.
[06:58.060 --> 07:14.060]  But who are not talking about the kind of things I would talk about. They're talking about the commercial process, they're talking about maritime law.
[07:14.060 --> 07:23.060]  And issues, if you listen to the show a lot, you know I've spoke to in the past with great frustration.
[07:23.060 --> 07:42.060]  I would very much like that these processes and procedures they're proposing and getting people to follow were valid.
[07:42.060 --> 07:51.060]  And they may well be valid. But I can't find anything to show that they're valid.
[07:51.060 --> 08:01.060]  And if you've listened a while, you've heard my frustration on that, where I've asked people to give me something substantial.
[08:01.060 --> 08:08.060]  Don't tell me something that amounts to a proactive statement of law out of your own mouth.
[08:08.060 --> 08:33.060]  I am in the United States. I am in the state of Texas. And as such, because I am within the territorial boundaries of the state of Texas, I am bound by an adhesion contract to the penal laws of the state of Texas.
[08:33.060 --> 08:47.060]  Whether my name is all caps or not, whether I consider myself a citizen of the state or a citizen of something else.
[08:47.060 --> 09:07.060]  If I place my physical body within the territorial boundaries of the state of Texas, I bind myself to an adhesion contract that binds me to the penal laws.
[09:07.060 --> 09:17.060]  I don't know if it's an adhesion contract. For me, in my perspective, it's what's written on all of our hearts.
[09:17.060 --> 09:31.060]  You're talking about the penal code specifically. When you harm somebody, one man or one woman reaches out and does something to somebody else, that harm gets codified slightly differently in different jurisdictions.
[09:31.060 --> 09:42.060]  I see that as being an outflow or an expression on paper in different jurisdictions and languages of what is in us.
[09:42.060 --> 09:49.060]  We already know not to hurt each other. We know that it's just not right if we do things that harm another person.
[09:49.060 --> 10:01.060]  So that part of it to me, I mean, yeah, maybe call it an adhesion contract, but it's going to be there whether we agree to it or not is the point, right?
[10:01.060 --> 10:22.060]  Exactly, and the people I'm talking to are mostly devout Christians, and I speak to this a lot on the air, that if God made man, and I can't say he did because that would be hypocritical, God, if there is a God, has not touched my heart.
[10:22.060 --> 10:32.060]  You said your heart was in the dirt, right? That's what you were asking. I didn't say I was older than God, just older than dirt.
[10:32.060 --> 10:43.060]  Okay, so it's not that my heart's not open, but if he exists and he has a purpose, he hasn't chose to reveal it to me yet.
[10:43.060 --> 10:59.060]  So okay, that's where I stand. I look at the Christian belief system, and like most other religions, 99% of what is in the religious canons is cultural wisdom.
[10:59.060 --> 11:16.060]  We don't need a God for cultural wisdom. If you do these things, they work well, no matter what belief system you have. If you don't do these things, they cause you problems.
[11:16.060 --> 11:29.060]  You know, the Christian belief system has a belief that you should tithe. I'm sorry, not just tithe, they have tithe, but that you should save.
[11:29.060 --> 11:37.060]  That's not religious. While the religious canons talk about it, that's not really something that's religious.
[11:37.060 --> 11:53.060]  If you save a portion of all your income, in the long term, it works very well. When you're young, it's not apparent how that will be positive and beneficial later down the road.
[11:53.060 --> 12:08.060]  Because we're young, and we think we got forever, and we don't think about down the road. So most of the religious canons are cultural wisdom. You do these things, it works well.
[12:08.060 --> 12:24.060]  You don't do these things, down the road it causes you problems. Okay, I'm trying to establish my position. In this case, it's the Republic of Texas group.
[12:24.060 --> 12:40.060]  They are, for the most part, all devout Christians. And they talk about God's law. Okay, I got God's law, but God told us, you follow my law, and I will take care of you.
[12:40.060 --> 12:57.060]  When it comes to man's law, your problem, not my problem. Don't ask me to intervene in man's law. Render unto Caesar. Caesar has these laws, and these laws were created by people, not by God.
[12:57.060 --> 13:20.060]  So don't ask God to interfere with the laws you guys created. Deal with it yourself. So when I look at the laws, from the Christian perspective, 99% of this goes to how human beings function.
[13:20.060 --> 13:33.060]  God, if there is a God, if He created man, He created us horribly flawed. And the way I read the Bible, He did that on purpose.
[13:33.060 --> 13:53.060]  If He is there, and He did create us, He intentionally created us flawed. Because if He had made us perfect, what would be the point? He's telling you, make good decisions, make positive decisions.
[13:53.060 --> 14:14.060]  If there were no negative decisions to make, why bother? So He gave us opportunity to make good decisions. The American Indians generally had a belief that everybody, every human being, or actually everything, was expressed into existence by higher spiritual will.
[14:14.060 --> 14:31.060]  And that is in no way inconsistent with the Christian belief system. And they believed that humans' only purpose here was to make spiritually powerful decisions.
[14:31.060 --> 14:51.060]  And the only decisions that had power in them were the difficult ones. So if He made us perfect, there would be no point. We're not perfect. Human beings are flawed, but they're all flawed consistently.
[14:51.060 --> 15:19.060]  No matter what country, no matter what culture, all of the things people tend to do with one another are the same. Murder, theft, adultery, all of these things people do that are contained in the criminal laws for the most part, and that's what I'm speaking to, are the same no matter where you're at.
[15:19.060 --> 15:38.060]  So they're consistent. And I agree with you, Brett, you are dead on, that while it is codified into law, it doesn't really need to be. Because if you do something wrong, you know.
[15:38.060 --> 15:54.060]  You don't need some priest or pastor or flier or some Muslim mullah to tell you you're doing something wrong. You know.
[15:54.060 --> 16:10.060]  That's in our hearts. We know when we do something wrong. But as a group, as a culture, we have taken these things we know to be wrong and codified them into statutes.
[16:10.060 --> 16:25.060]  And when I look at the codes, I don't look at them so much as a tool that the government can use to beat us up with. I look at it as cultural wisdom.
[16:25.060 --> 16:34.060]  If you follow these rules, life will work better not only for you, but for everybody else.
[16:34.060 --> 16:59.060]  Okay. So, Brett, if we accept that all of these laws are designed to help human beings to better interact with one another, then when we come to what the Republic of Texas and a number of other groups are doing, it's saying that, oh, those laws don't apply.
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[19:30.060 --> 19:38.060]  Just.
[19:38.060 --> 19:44.060]  Standing like it's out of control on the edge of a hole inside a deep dark.
[19:44.060 --> 19:50.060]  I'm always on the lookout for something to soothe my soul.
[19:50.060 --> 20:02.060]  So I sit back and I watch the evidence unfold, and I see justice is the goal.
[20:02.060 --> 20:09.060]  Yeah, justice is the goal.
[20:09.060 --> 20:25.060]  A little too far at sea, and then we got to get back on course from the man that came all the way from the safe and warm place to be.
[20:25.060 --> 20:46.060]  Well, I don't have to work so hard to be free. Some guys are trying to rewrite history, but they got caught. Now them guys got the bleep. Looks like just.
[20:46.060 --> 21:00.060]  OK, I am back ready to go with our radio and a little slow coming back, and that's because Brett and I were trying to find a way to make what we're trying to present make sense.
[21:00.060 --> 21:24.060]  All of these laws, when you elect to place yourself within the territorial jurors jurisdiction of a state or county or country, you bind yourself to a set to an adhesion contract.
[21:24.060 --> 21:30.060]  Wherein you tacitly agree to abide by all of the penal laws.
[21:30.060 --> 21:37.060]  Unless you're in North Korea, you can't get out and they tell you what's right and wrong and they make up all kinds of things and there's no escape.
[21:37.060 --> 21:58.060]  You're not tacitly bound. You are absolutely bound. But everywhere else, if I go from Texas to Oklahoma, when I step into Oklahoma, I bind myself by my voluntarily movement into that state.
[21:58.060 --> 22:12.060]  I bind myself to the penal laws of that state. Now there's a lot of other laws that I don't necessarily bind myself to, but the penal laws go to how human beings deal with human beings.
[22:12.060 --> 22:35.060]  Let's look at it like this. We've got the Ten Commandments. We've got the Golden Rule. We know that we treat other people the way we want to be treated. We've got the Ten Commandments, and if you look at it like the Hebrew, the 613 Commandments, and then this guy comes up and he asks Jesus,
[22:35.060 --> 22:49.060]  well, what is the most important commandment of all? And he says, love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul, all your mind, all your strength, and love your neighbor as yourself.
[22:49.060 --> 22:55.060]  All the rest of the laws are summed up in this.
[22:55.060 --> 23:13.060]  Precisely. Precisely. All of these criminal codes are about how a civilized society deals with other human beings in a civilized society.
[23:13.060 --> 23:36.060]  Okay, there's a place I'm trying to go here, and I have a frustration. Not just the Republic of Texas, but there are other groups out there, and there are people out there proposing methodologies, and I have no doubt that these people are acting in the best of faith.
[23:36.060 --> 23:56.060]  But they are leading people to really bad outcomes. And while we won't go into Gnosticism, the Bible was put together at the Council of Nicaea in 363 AD by Cassius, the Emperor of Rome,
[23:56.060 --> 24:22.060]  and he was putting together a political text because he saw a catastrophe coming where Western Rome would disintegrate, and he was concerned that Europe would descend into chaos when the Roman Empire disintegrated.
[24:22.060 --> 24:45.060]  And it did in 412 AD when the Visigoths sacked Rome. So he put together the Bible as a political text to create a political entity that could maintain some kind of stability, and it did through the Dark Ages.
[24:45.060 --> 25:00.060]  But that document was based on—in creating that document, they threw out the Gnostic texts because they're trying to create a political hierarchy.
[25:00.060 --> 25:14.060]  The Gnostic texts said, don't look outside for your divinity. Look in your heart. Look into the portion of God that he left in your heart.
[25:14.060 --> 25:24.060]  If you do something wrong, you know you did something wrong. You don't need some prophet, priest, friar to tell you you did something wrong. You know.
[25:24.060 --> 25:39.060]  We all got that. We all know when we're doing something wrong. And if you look at the penal laws, you know, I study the penal laws in detail, and I find them very well constructed.
[25:39.060 --> 25:50.060]  People call into my show and they ask me questions, and I give them these answers, and they think I've got all these codes memorized. No, I do not.
[25:50.060 --> 26:07.060]  What I have is faith. I have faith in the American people who have, over a period of a couple hundred years, designed a legal system that is just.
[26:07.060 --> 26:17.060]  And if somebody brings something up and a reasonable person of ordinary prudence looks at that and says, that's just wrong.
[26:17.060 --> 26:27.060]  If you look in the law, I can, especially Texas law, I guarantee you, you will find that the law says that's wrong.
[26:27.060 --> 26:40.060]  And if you look at something and you say, reasonably, this should be this way. If you look into Texas code, you'll find it is that way in the code.
[26:40.060 --> 26:48.060]  You know, these people call in, they ask me questions, they think I'm some kind of guru. I am not some kind of guru.
[26:48.060 --> 27:04.060]  But I'm older and I've developed some wisdom, I hope, over the years. And what this ability was given to divine tells me is that's not right.
[27:04.060 --> 27:08.060]  If you look at the law, you'll find it's not right.
[27:08.060 --> 27:18.060]  My point is, is we have these guys out there saying, oh, all that law, all that stuff, it don't really apply to you because you're in some special state.
[27:18.060 --> 27:29.060]  You're in some special category. So all of a sudden, none of that law, that cultural wisdom applies to you.
[27:29.060 --> 27:43.060]  And when I see good people acting in the best of faith, listening to guys telling them that all that stuff doesn't apply to you, it makes me cringe.
[27:43.060 --> 27:59.060]  We have to discern. There's a distinction here between the things that automatically apply, no matter where you are, they're going to word it slightly differently or they're going to categorize the severity of the offense a little bit differently, maybe written in different languages.
[27:59.060 --> 28:14.060]  That stuff is on one side of the line. And then the stuff on the other side of the line that people want freedom from is stuff that's like, okay, I get married and so that means I have to have state permission to get married.
[28:14.060 --> 28:20.060]  I have to have a license. No, you don't have to have a license to get married. That's a bunch of bunk.
[28:20.060 --> 28:32.060]  And I need to travel from point A to point B, so I've got to have a license from what? From a pile of paper? It's just a fiction. Okay, yeah, obviously that's a bunch of rules that don't need to apply to you.
[28:32.060 --> 28:42.060]  And there's arguments about whether it's safe or what could happen if you don't have government intervention.
[28:42.060 --> 28:50.060]  Yeah, but that's all the stuff that people want freedom from when they're saying, none of that applies to me. That's the stuff they're talking about.
[28:50.060 --> 29:03.060]  Whereas back on the other side of the line, you have the stuff that nobody would want to live, nobody in their right mind would want to live in a society, in a community of people who have no respect for each other, who don't even do the golden rule.
[29:03.060 --> 29:08.060]  Oh, I didn't sign up for the golden rule. That doesn't apply to me. Nobody would want that.
[29:08.060 --> 29:24.060]  Yeah, and you know, I've studied the Indian group I found the most interesting were the Comanche. Comanche in Spanish means I will fight you all day.
[29:24.060 --> 29:40.060]  But the Comanches had no rules. They had no leaders, they had no chiefs. We speak to American Indians and we expect them to have a chief. Well, they didn't have any.
[29:40.060 --> 30:00.060]  If they're going out hunting, whoever's the best hunter, he leads them all. If they're going to get in a fight, whoever's the best fighter leads them all. No chiefs, no rules, no laws. They all acted from their heart. Hang on, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain. We'll be right back.
[30:00.060 --> 30:14.060]  It's clear cell phones have changed the way we live and work, but have they negatively affected our health? I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht and I'll be back in just a moment with new findings about how cell phones may actually alter our brain chemistry.
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[30:44.060 --> 30:57.060]  Cell phones emit radio frequency energy. It's a fact. But whether it's dangerous to have a phone beaming this kind of radiation near your head has been disputed. Some have blamed it for brain tumors, while cell phone companies have downplayed concerns.
[30:57.060 --> 31:11.060]  Well, now the Journal of the American Medical Association is confirming that cell phones affect brain chemistry. A study of 47 volunteers showed that glucose metabolism in the area of the brain closest to the cell phone antenna increases when the cell phone is on.
[31:11.060 --> 31:20.060]  While researchers aren't sure whether this exposure causes damage, I'm not taking any chances. I always keep the phone far from my body and I use a corded headset.
[31:20.060 --> 31:30.060]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
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[32:00.060 --> 32:05.060]  Logos Radio Network welcomes a new show to our lineup for the new year.
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[33:14.060 --> 33:25.060]  Yes, I got a warrant and I'm going to serve them to the head of the government and prosecute them.
[33:25.060 --> 33:31.060]  Okay.
[33:31.060 --> 34:00.060]  We are back.
[34:00.060 --> 34:14.060]  I'm Andy Kelton Brett Fountain Rula Radio and we've got a board full of callers. So I can't spend much more time on this. It's just a great frustration. I've been doing this show for a number of years and this has been a consistent problem.
[34:14.060 --> 34:18.060]  We have people acting in the best of faith.
[34:18.060 --> 34:28.060]  Members of the legal reform group that they want to find effective remedy for people.
[34:28.060 --> 34:35.060]  And we have some ideas out there that may well be valid.
[34:35.060 --> 34:47.060]  But we have a system here that does not at this time address those issues or give value to those issues.
[34:47.060 --> 35:03.060]  My first concern is someone's liberty. I may have some philosophical ideas of how things should be, but first I'm an engineer and I have to deal with things the way they are.
[35:03.060 --> 35:18.060]  And if I sound frustrated is because I see someone that that I think could be an extremely valuable addition to the legal reform movement.
[35:18.060 --> 35:25.060]  But I am concerned she's listening to some people who are acting in the best of faith.
[35:25.060 --> 35:31.060]  But they're acting from a position beyond her situation.
[35:31.060 --> 35:42.060]  They're advising her to do some things that they philosophically feel are relevant.
[35:42.060 --> 35:54.060]  But from my perspective of dealing with people in the courts, she's going to wind up in jail.
[35:54.060 --> 35:55.060]  It's dangerous.
[35:55.060 --> 36:04.060]  And we'll be of value to no one that first liberty, then philosophy.
[36:04.060 --> 36:06.060]  First, let's keep her out of jail.
[36:06.060 --> 36:12.060]  So if I have led you all down to a place you don't want to go, I apologize.
[36:12.060 --> 36:15.060]  I'm just expressing my frustration.
[36:15.060 --> 36:24.060]  It's been an ongoing frustration all the time I've done this radio show that I want to find people remedy.
[36:24.060 --> 36:27.060]  And sometimes I can, sometimes I can't.
[36:27.060 --> 36:32.060]  We have a full book Board of Callers, so I'm going to go ahead and go to our callers.
[36:32.060 --> 36:34.060]  Let's go to Danny in Tennessee.
[36:34.060 --> 36:35.060]  Hello, Danny.
[36:35.060 --> 36:39.060]  What are you up to today?
[36:39.060 --> 36:51.060]  Well, just had an idea in cooking, cooking in my head for a little while and kind of based on your idea of setting up a public official.
[36:51.060 --> 37:06.060]  And in this case, it would be the county clerk because the county clerk is given the local authority and responsibility for vehicle registrations.
[37:06.060 --> 37:18.060]  And looking at the definition of vehicle, vehicle and freight motor vehicle are defined together of the same set of words, so they're the exact same thing.
[37:18.060 --> 37:31.060]  And, you know, go through analysis and explain to the clerk how the definition indicates it's an implement of commerce.
[37:31.060 --> 37:37.060]  And ask if, well, if he had known that before.
[37:37.060 --> 37:45.060]  Also, does he think that the people coming in, a lot of the people coming in, realize that's what they're doing?
[37:45.060 --> 37:52.060]  Well, I expect him to say that, no, he never heard of that before, you know, and kind of talk some more.
[37:52.060 --> 37:59.060]  And, you know, him saying that, you know, he didn't ever know that.
[37:59.060 --> 38:10.060]  And so I can tell him, well, I'm really glad that he said that because I've also read in the criminal code about fraud and deception.
[38:10.060 --> 38:23.060]  And allowing someone to proceed with a transaction with a misunderstanding of the law or facts involved in the transaction is considered, you know, fraud and deception.
[38:23.060 --> 38:50.060]  And so, you know, I'd like to be able to come up with some solution. I would think just posting a notice that explains in ordinary language what vehicle means and what the purpose of the registration really is so that only people are going to actually use their cars and such as a vehicle in some kind of commercial activity on the road.
[38:50.060 --> 39:02.060]  And give him a while and just keep, you know, contacting him about three months or something and start finding out what he's come up with.
[39:02.060 --> 39:13.060]  And he's under the commission of revenue from the state to do this within the county and maybe start pushing that out on him as well.
[39:13.060 --> 39:27.060]  But, you know, then after a while they've had enough time to figure out something and I don't know of anything that would prohibit them from posting a notice that explains this.
[39:27.060 --> 39:45.060]  And then continue not to then start going to the grand jury about this guy who, you know, he knows now. I thought maybe he didn't know but he knows now that he's still doing it.
[39:45.060 --> 39:51.060]  I don't know about that idea.
[39:51.060 --> 39:59.060]  Well, Randy, this is Danny, right?
[39:59.060 --> 40:12.060]  It sounds so idealistic and I wish that everybody that you would talk to is you would be able to go up to a clerk and reason with them like this.
[40:12.060 --> 40:16.060]  If you do, my hat's off to you.
[40:16.060 --> 40:37.060]  I'm inclined to think that that kind of a clerk doesn't exist. I'm inclined to think that they are kind of looking down their nose at you because they don't have the concept that they're there to serve the public.
[40:37.060 --> 40:47.060]  They have the concept that you owe them your allegiance and they get to tell you what to do and you don't teach them anything.
[40:47.060 --> 40:56.060]  So that's been my perspective. That's been my experience. And if you run into a clerk like that, that'd be pretty amazing.
[40:56.060 --> 41:01.060]  Let me address that. You said exactly what I wanted to say, Brett.
[41:01.060 --> 41:10.060]  You've got this clerk and the clerk becomes a clerk or somebody goes to work for the clerk's office and they don't know squat.
[41:10.060 --> 41:21.060]  So they listen to the clerk and the clerk schools them in practices and procedures. This is how you're supposed to do all of these things.
[41:21.060 --> 41:33.060]  And they accept that what they're told is right. And then they have some jack-leg pro se hillbilly come to them and tell them, you know all that stuff you're doing?
[41:33.060 --> 41:38.060]  Well, that's all wrong. You need to do it another way and you should do these other things.
[41:38.060 --> 41:48.060]  For the most part, it has been my experience that these clerks, they're ordinary people and they want to do the right thing. They want to do it the right way.
[41:48.060 --> 42:00.060]  So who do they look to for direction on the right way to do it? Their bosses? The people who pay them? The people who employ them?
[42:00.060 --> 42:17.060]  Or some Tennessee hillbilly? Danny, how do you get to these? How do you reach them so that they look at what you're telling them and say, there's something about that that seems right.
[42:17.060 --> 42:21.060]  How do you do that? How?
[42:21.060 --> 42:30.060]  Well, yeah, that could be a problem, but this is the elected county clerk.
[42:30.060 --> 42:39.060]  So he's the head of the office and I met with him once a while back and said something about like to meet with him again at some time and he seemed kind of reasonable at the time.
[42:39.060 --> 42:43.060]  I think it's unusual that somebody comes in to talk with him like that.
[42:43.060 --> 42:49.060]  And I don't know just how he is in general, but do that.
[42:49.060 --> 43:02.060]  But the thing is, it also starts bringing the topic up where you just tell them out, you know, bringing charges and running the routine on somebody to where they keep hearing it enough that they can.
[43:02.060 --> 43:20.060]  And if they got some attorney telling them different, well, then we start doing things to that attorney. I think about doing that to the city attorney and others anyway, just because they haven't properly advised the police as to what a vehicle is so that they can administer this correctly.
[43:20.060 --> 43:31.060]  OK, there I think you've got something. Yeah, that pleases me greatly to hear that. Obviously, Danny, you understand how it works.
[43:31.060 --> 43:45.060]  You got this clerk. If we go in with the presumption that all these public officials are just on their people and they want to do things right, they're just being advised poorly.
[43:45.060 --> 43:51.060]  So instead of beating them up, you beat up the people who's advising them.
[43:51.060 --> 43:56.060]  Hang on. We're about to go to our sponsors. Randy Kalton, Brett Fountain, one of our radio.
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[46:58.060 --> 47:16.060]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain of Rule of Law Radio. And yeah, how do we... We're talking to Danny in Texas. Danny, how do we take a... Did I say Texas? You're not in Texas anymore, are you Danny?
[47:16.060 --> 47:17.060]  No.
[47:17.060 --> 47:28.060]  When I first come across Danny, we were in Houston. He actually set me up a seminar that I did in Houston.
[47:28.060 --> 47:51.060]  But we're assuming we got a clerk who's acting in the best of faith, who has been trained by people who trained the clerk to do things that served their own political and professional best interest, primarily prosecutors.
[47:51.060 --> 48:13.060]  How do we reach that clerk when we come in as just a hillbilly pro say no nothing? How do we reach that clerk so that we can touch them, assuming that these officials want to do the right thing? How do you reach them, Danny?
[48:13.060 --> 48:33.060]  Well, I'm not completely sure. Just try to explain it as well as I can. Have it kind of written up so I'm leaving something to look over and enough to get him to go contact some advice and see how that goes.
[48:33.060 --> 48:44.060]  Another idea, you know, he's talking about... I mentioned about maybe Margrethe and the city attorney for not advising the police well enough to know what a vehicle actually is.
[48:44.060 --> 48:46.060]  There you go.
[48:46.060 --> 49:01.060]  Sort of on those same lines. A good while back, I had contacted the academy that they train the police and others, police and sheriffs.
[49:01.060 --> 49:05.060]  Okay, you're in Tennessee, that would be post?
[49:05.060 --> 49:07.060]  Yes.
[49:07.060 --> 49:11.060]  Police officer certification and training.
[49:11.060 --> 49:15.060]  Standards, yeah, standards and training.
[49:15.060 --> 49:17.060]  Yeah, I think that's right.
[49:17.060 --> 49:31.060]  And about trying to get some descriptions of their training, the response was that they don't do that. They don't reveal how they do it in their training.
[49:31.060 --> 49:48.060]  Okay, so now also, not only Margrethe, the city attorney, and any others I can see that might be connected, put a complaint against each of them for failing to teach the police what this is.
[49:48.060 --> 50:01.060]  And there's an attorney from the attorney general's office that's associated with that. Margrethe him for not telling them how to do this.
[50:01.060 --> 50:13.060]  And just get some people looking at what it really is because I imagine most attorneys don't even actually understand this because they haven't looked at it close enough.
[50:13.060 --> 50:29.060]  I like the strategy. If you want the clerk to do things different and other people are telling them to do things in a way that you don't think is appropriate, you go after those guys.
[50:29.060 --> 50:49.060]  And whether those guys tell the clerk something different, most likely they will find out that you're hammering those guys because of it, or you might be able to find a subtle way to let the clerk know that you're hammering those guys for misinstructing the clerk.
[50:49.060 --> 51:05.060]  It's been my experience that even police and clerks and all of these lower level officials, they're just ordinary people. They want to do things right.
[51:05.060 --> 51:12.060]  If you want them to hear you, you've got to find a way to give them reason to listen.
[51:12.060 --> 51:20.060]  If you're beating up the people they look up to, they're going to pay more attention to you.
[51:20.060 --> 51:44.060]  Well, that was just the idea in general. And I think really if you can get a proper comprehension of what the definition of vehicle really means,
[51:44.060 --> 51:54.060]  that goes a long way because there's a long series of federal class action suits dealing with the right to travel.
[51:54.060 --> 52:06.060]  And for quite a few years, they've been using the same language, almost the exact same words case to case, for at least 10 years, I think more like 20 years,
[52:06.060 --> 52:27.060]  that there is a right to travel and the 6th Circuit has recognized an interstate right to travel.
[52:27.060 --> 52:36.060]  And the 6th District has recognized an interstate right to travel.
[52:36.060 --> 52:41.060]  And, say, unless there's something like a classification...
[52:41.060 --> 52:48.060]  Okay, hold on. You're talking about Tennessee law. Remember Olivier, Marteche Olivier?
[52:48.060 --> 52:49.060]  Yes.
[52:49.060 --> 53:06.060]  He was from Tennessee and he addressed this. Tennessee has a case law that says that the state has a vested interest in the safety of the public.
[53:06.060 --> 53:23.060]  And because of that, they can require that someone who operates a motor vehicle or who operates any kind of motorized conveyance on the streets and highways of the state of Tennessee
[53:23.060 --> 53:39.060]  must secure a license for the purpose of demonstrating competency in operating the conveyance and knowledge of the rules of the road.
[53:39.060 --> 53:53.060]  But that was it. It's like getting a gun license. You don't have to have a gun license to use a gun. You have to have a gun license to show competency
[53:53.060 --> 54:03.060]  and knowledge of the law concerning guns and demonstration of competency in using the weapon so you don't accidentally shoot somebody.
[54:03.060 --> 54:23.060]  The requirement for a driver's license in Tennessee is similar. The state can, in fact, require a traveler to secure a license, but only as a demonstration of competence,
[54:23.060 --> 54:39.060]  not as a presupposition that they're acting in commerce. We don't have that in Texas. They require you to get a license and that gives the policeman a presumption that you're operating in commerce.
[54:39.060 --> 54:54.060]  It's not that way in Tennessee. You have a right to locomotion. Locomotion does not involve commerce, but you still have to have a license to demonstrate to the state
[54:54.060 --> 55:07.060]  that you're not going to get out here in this 3,000 pounds of iron and slaughter somebody with it because you don't know how to operate it. That sounds reasonable.
[55:07.060 --> 55:11.060]  Yeah, well, you're talking about driver's license though, huh?
[55:11.060 --> 55:29.060]  Yes, but what the police do and their local courts do is they extend the presumption to include or to imply that if you have that license, you are necessarily in commerce.
[55:29.060 --> 55:33.060]  And that's not actually the case in Tennessee.
[55:33.060 --> 55:47.060]  Well, yeah, that's the driver's license. And my thing is the vehicle license, the license plate and the registration and, you know, year to year, a tax.
[55:47.060 --> 55:55.060]  And we don't have a poll tax anymore because voting is a right.
[55:55.060 --> 56:05.060]  Very good point. You have to put a license on your vehicle only to use it in commerce.
[56:05.060 --> 56:21.060]  If you're using it for locomotion and we're making these linguistic distinctions because these words have different meanings in law than they do in the common tongue.
[56:21.060 --> 56:30.060]  When you and I are having a discussion about a motorized conveyance, we call it a vehicle.
[56:30.060 --> 56:41.060]  But when a officer comes into court and calls that motorized conveyance a vehicle, that means something else altogether.
[56:41.060 --> 56:50.060]  That means a motorized conveyance used in commerce.
[56:50.060 --> 57:04.060]  So in Tennessee, unlike Texas and most other states I've looked at, the case law has made a very clear distinction on that issue.
[57:04.060 --> 57:13.060]  Texas doesn't say that you have to have a license in order for the purpose of demonstrating competence.
[57:13.060 --> 57:19.060]  It says you have to have a license to operate in commerce, period.
[57:19.060 --> 57:39.060]  So if a policeman sees you operating a conveyance and it has a commercial license plate on it, that gives him reasonable probable cause to believe that you are operating in commerce because you're licensed to do so.
[57:39.060 --> 57:44.060]  And who would license themselves to operate in commerce if they weren't?
[57:44.060 --> 57:57.060]  Okay, but once he makes the stop, then he has to determine whether or not you're using this vehicle in commerce.
[57:57.060 --> 58:02.060]  And an example of why that's important, you take a tractor trailer.
[58:02.060 --> 58:16.060]  Say you've got a 40-foot box truck and you drop off a load at a warehouse and you have to drive 50 miles to another warehouse to pick up the next load.
[58:16.060 --> 58:20.060]  That 50 miles you're not being paid for.
[58:20.060 --> 58:23.060]  You're not in commerce.
[58:23.060 --> 58:30.060]  Okay, you've got a vehicle that's designed to be used in commerce, so as a cop pulls you over, the first thing he should ask you,
[58:30.060 --> 58:33.060]  do you have a load on this truck?
[58:33.060 --> 58:37.060]  Are you being paid to transport this load?
[58:37.060 --> 58:40.060]  That determines that you are actually in commerce.
[58:40.060 --> 59:01.060]  Hang on, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio, we'll be right back.
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[01:03:38.060 --> 01:03:45.060]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio. We're talking to Danny in Tennessee.
[01:03:45.060 --> 01:04:03.060]  And yet we talked about this on the break and I am frustrated at this point because we have people out there proposing practices and procedures that they haven't actually tried themselves.
[01:04:03.060 --> 01:04:16.060]  And Danny, I think I jumped to a different topic. Let me step back and go back to where we were. I'm preoccupied with this meeting I had with these people with the Republic of Texas.
[01:04:16.060 --> 01:04:34.060]  I'm really concerned because the problem is everybody seems to be doing what they're doing in the best of faith. No bad guys here.
[01:04:34.060 --> 01:04:44.060]  It's just that I've been doing this a long time and I've seen people have a lot of trouble doing what somebody else says they think you should do.
[01:04:44.060 --> 01:04:58.060]  For the most part, I get the impression that these people have consciously studied the law and they believe this is how the law should work.
[01:04:58.060 --> 01:05:04.060]  They're not someone who said, I've been there, done that, you can do this, you shouldn't do that.
[01:05:04.060 --> 01:05:11.060]  But they're someone who said, I read the law and I did all this research and I think you can do this and I think you can do that.
[01:05:11.060 --> 01:05:14.060]  That would be okay if they said, I think it.
[01:05:14.060 --> 01:05:29.060]  Yeah, or if they would be qualified in some way to give an indicator of how much success of this have you had or is this just your imagination of how things ought to be and so you ought to be able to just say these magic words and poof, everything's going to go your way.
[01:05:29.060 --> 01:05:45.060]  If that's the case, you should go do this yourself, but don't ask someone else to take your risk for you to prove your particular philosophical position.
[01:05:45.060 --> 01:05:49.060]  If they were a bad guy here, this would be easier.
[01:05:49.060 --> 01:05:53.060]  But I'm sorry, Danny, I kind of got away from your issue.
[01:05:53.060 --> 01:05:58.060]  If I sound like I'm preoccupied this weekend, I certainly am.
[01:05:58.060 --> 01:05:59.060]  I'm concerned.
[01:05:59.060 --> 01:06:20.060]  Okay, Danny, back to how do we convince the clerk to do things right when the people that the clerk has been directed to listen to are telling them something else?
[01:06:20.060 --> 01:06:34.060]  Well, I don't know if anybody's ever told him that he shouldn't do anything. The law as it's written is, I would say, perfectly fine for this, except that people don't understand it.
[01:06:34.060 --> 01:06:53.060]  And I'm pretty sure the clerk doesn't understand it, but what do they feel like they need to do if they are put in the situation where they should be understanding it or go get counseling?
[01:06:53.060 --> 01:07:10.060]  This guy said this stuff and it kind of makes sense, but what is this? A lot of things seem to come down to lawyers and collecting money.
[01:07:10.060 --> 01:07:36.060]  Well, Danny, what would prevent you in Tennessee from looking at a case and determining that the accused had a right to certain immunities or privileges that the lawyer did not adjudicate?
[01:07:36.060 --> 01:07:40.060]  What would prevent you from bar grieving the lawyer?
[01:07:40.060 --> 01:07:53.060]  Well, I don't guess there would be anything. I kind of thought about those kinds of things. It's just that the courts are not very open right now thinking of going to the city court where a lot of things pass through.
[01:07:53.060 --> 01:08:07.060]  And just finding out what the charges are, get copies of the complaints and different things, and doing some things like that.
[01:08:07.060 --> 01:08:23.060]  And the reason I ask that question that way is I am about to unleash a legal firestorm on the county of Wise.
[01:08:23.060 --> 01:08:50.060]  If I were to look in their record and every place where someone has been arrested and charged and there is no order under Article 16.17 Texas Code of Criminal Procedure, which is commanded to be there by law, I'm going to file criminal charges against that police officer for arresting the guy and taking him to jail.
[01:08:50.060 --> 01:09:06.060]  That is to prevent you, I'm sorry, I missed the point I wanted to go to. If the person who has been arrested and taken to jail, I will file against the officer and a professional conduct complaint, but then I look in the record and see if he has an attorney.
[01:09:06.060 --> 01:09:14.060]  And if the attorney did not file a motion to dismiss, I'm going to bar grieve the attorney.
[01:09:14.060 --> 01:09:24.060]  And I maintain I have standing because that lawyer is, at the very least, a quasi-public official.
[01:09:24.060 --> 01:09:36.060]  He can only stand in front of the bar between the bar and the bench because he has a bar card.
[01:09:36.060 --> 01:10:05.060]  And that gives him special status and that makes him a quasi-public official. And as a quasi-public official, he's not only answerable to the court and to the accused, say in this case if he's a prosecutor, he's also answerable to you and me as the general public who grants him that quasi-official status.
[01:10:05.060 --> 01:10:16.060]  So what's a lawyer going to do if he gets a client, never talks to the client, until he goes to the client and says, you've got to make this deal.
[01:10:16.060 --> 01:10:27.060]  And you look in the record and there were issues the lawyer should have adjudicated. What's to prevent you from bar grieving him? Danny?
[01:10:27.060 --> 01:10:38.060]  Well, I wouldn't think there's anything. Oh, that brings up something else I wanted, another piece of information to pass on to you.
[01:10:38.060 --> 01:11:01.060]  Come out, you know, being a member of the bar. Well, I got to check in here recently and the state bar website and I don't find the names of any of the district attorney's staff on there.
[01:11:01.060 --> 01:11:14.060]  Well, the staff may or may not be an attorney. If they're not an attorney, you can't bar grieve them, but you can file criminal charges for unauthorized practice of law.
[01:11:14.060 --> 01:11:22.060]  But if he's a prosecutor, he would have to have a bar card.
[01:11:22.060 --> 01:11:28.060]  Say that again?
[01:11:28.060 --> 01:11:35.060]  So if they don't show to have a bar card, they can't represent the state.
[01:11:35.060 --> 01:11:46.060]  Yeah, I have found every time I needed to find an attorney, district attorney or county attorney or even the assistants, I always find them to have a bar card.
[01:11:46.060 --> 01:11:58.060]  Now, it might be under a slightly different name. A lot of times, you know, you'll find like, I don't know, Mick and then they go by Mick and that's what they've got on their business card and everything.
[01:11:58.060 --> 01:12:03.060]  But then when you try to look it up, it's Mickey or it's somehow slightly different.
[01:12:03.060 --> 01:12:09.060]  And so you might have to play with a name a little bit. Bob, Robert, Bill, William, stuff like that.
[01:12:09.060 --> 01:12:20.060]  Wait, wait, wait a minute. Why? If you can't find a bar card under the name they're using, the presumption is they don't have one.
[01:12:20.060 --> 01:12:28.060]  Let them prove they do.
[01:12:28.060 --> 01:12:32.060]  Make sense?
[01:12:32.060 --> 01:12:40.060]  Okay, got real quiet. Are you talking about make sense to me? Yeah, yeah.
[01:12:40.060 --> 01:12:46.060]  Use your bar card for criminal charges for unauthorized practice of law.
[01:12:46.060 --> 01:12:51.060]  Yeah, and let them show that they actually have a bar card.
[01:12:51.060 --> 01:12:55.060]  Mick, well, your bar card is under my ankle.
[01:12:55.060 --> 01:13:10.060]  So how was I to know? So I bar grieved you. I stung your career. You should have put the right name on it.
[01:13:10.060 --> 01:13:15.060]  Did that give you any ideas? Danny?
[01:13:15.060 --> 01:13:25.060]  Well, yeah, except, you know, I did those things, different variations and just the last name to see something come up and it just seemed like there's none of them.
[01:13:25.060 --> 01:13:31.060]  It wasn't just one. That just seems to be the practice somehow.
[01:13:31.060 --> 01:13:39.060]  Okay, the idea, the part that I like about it is a third party interloper.
[01:13:39.060 --> 01:13:51.060]  You look at a case and you see the prosecutor's name, you look up the prosecutor's name and you don't find a bar card under that name.
[01:13:51.060 --> 01:13:56.060]  So he uses Mick and you don't find a bar card under Mick.
[01:13:56.060 --> 01:14:03.060]  Well, you could probably guess that, oh, well, his name is probably Michael.
[01:14:03.060 --> 01:14:17.060]  But you don't know if it is or not. What if you look up Michael instead of Mick and you find a bar card number and you file a grievance against the lawyer whose name actually is Michael?
[01:14:17.060 --> 01:14:20.060]  He didn't have anything to do with it.
[01:14:20.060 --> 01:14:24.060]  Okay, I'm going to give a confession.
[01:14:24.060 --> 01:14:39.060]  I have a whole bunch of lawyers who are representing criminal clients and they haven't filed a motion to dismiss where there is no 16.17 order.
[01:14:39.060 --> 01:14:47.060]  So I prepared this grievance under the guy's name and it turned out to be the wrong guy.
[01:14:47.060 --> 01:14:57.060]  And I looked at it, there was two or three people with the same name and the first one I picked was obviously the wrong one because he's in the wrong town.
[01:14:57.060 --> 01:15:04.060]  So I went back and checked and there was another one in the right town and they gave me an idea.
[01:15:04.060 --> 01:15:10.060]  I got this lawyer with the same name as another lawyer.
[01:15:10.060 --> 01:15:17.060]  Well, I don't know who's who, so I filed against the innocent lawyer.
[01:15:17.060 --> 01:15:26.060]  He's going to have a conniption fit because he gets a bar grievance against him and he had nothing to do with it.
[01:15:26.060 --> 01:15:29.060]  And he's going to be PO'd at the right guy.
[01:15:29.060 --> 01:15:37.060]  So then I come back and file it when he raises the objection, it's the wrong person, then I go file against the right guy.
[01:15:37.060 --> 01:15:43.060]  Problem is that first filing doesn't go away, it stings him.
[01:15:43.060 --> 01:15:50.060]  And now I got the lawyer PO'd at the other lawyer.
[01:15:50.060 --> 01:15:56.060]  Does that sound dirty rotten and devious?
[01:15:56.060 --> 01:15:59.060]  Well, no worse than some of them.
[01:15:59.060 --> 01:16:01.060]  Exactly.
[01:16:01.060 --> 01:16:04.060]  You can't say it's undeserved.
[01:16:04.060 --> 01:16:08.060]  Sorry, Bubba.
[01:16:08.060 --> 01:16:17.060]  It was the wrong bar grievance and the bar will get your grievance and they'll just throw it away, no problem, no harm, no foul.
[01:16:17.060 --> 01:16:25.060]  And we'll pretend like we don't know, his malpractice insurance is going to double.
[01:16:25.060 --> 01:16:31.060]  And then he's going to go back to this other lawyer screaming bloody murder.
[01:16:31.060 --> 01:16:39.060]  I'm just examining what are the dirty rotten things we can do to him.
[01:16:39.060 --> 01:16:42.060]  OK, you have anything else for us, Danny?
[01:16:42.060 --> 01:16:48.060]  Well, I've got another idea to bring up to you, a question I wanted to ask.
[01:16:48.060 --> 01:16:51.060]  OK, let's pick that up on the other side.
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[01:19:41.060 --> 01:19:48.060]  OK, we are back. Brandon Kelton, Brett Fountain, Reel Bar Radio and talking to Danny in Tennessee.
[01:19:48.060 --> 01:19:51.060]  OK, Danny, you had one more issue.
[01:19:51.060 --> 01:20:00.060]  Yeah, well, I wanted to ask you, I think I know the answer, but in Texas, how does the foreman of the grand jury select it?
[01:20:00.060 --> 01:20:15.060]  That is a good question. I believe that the prosecutor, I'm sorry, the judge who empanels the grand jury selects the foreman.
[01:20:15.060 --> 01:20:18.060]  From among that group?
[01:20:18.060 --> 01:20:27.060]  Yes, from among that group. When I went in and watched the selection process, the judge designated a foreman.
[01:20:27.060 --> 01:20:36.060]  So there was no vote or any consensus. The foreman was just designated.
[01:20:36.060 --> 01:20:45.060]  OK, the reason I was asking that, you know, here in Tennessee, it's done that way, but I think separately from the random group.
[01:20:45.060 --> 01:20:58.060]  And I've heard from our friend in Chattanooga that at least one of the counties around him that they had like the same foreman for 20 years.
[01:20:58.060 --> 01:21:21.060]  And in some ways it seemed like selecting the foreman from outside the random jury pool that they can choose somebody to be something of a gatekeeper and kind of protect the officials from being brought up or actually indicted by grand jury if they did not feel that way about it.
[01:21:21.060 --> 01:21:32.060]  Is there anything in Tennessee code speaking to how the foreman of the grand jury is selected?
[01:21:32.060 --> 01:21:38.060]  Yes, that's basically what I was describing.
[01:21:38.060 --> 01:21:40.060]  The judge does it?
[01:21:40.060 --> 01:21:42.060]  Yes.
[01:21:42.060 --> 01:22:06.060]  It's similar to Texas. Is there specific statutory requirements on how to select a grand jury that has provisions that would tend to prevent a judge or prosecutor from stacking a grand jury?
[01:22:06.060 --> 01:22:14.060]  Well, I don't know if I looked at those kind of details, so I can't really say.
[01:22:14.060 --> 01:22:24.060]  That we need to look at if we have reason to believe that they're manipulating the grand jury.
[01:22:24.060 --> 01:22:30.060]  But even if they are, grand juries are always a crapshoot.
[01:22:30.060 --> 01:22:38.060]  So let's not avoid grand juries because we think they might be stacked.
[01:22:38.060 --> 01:22:49.060]  Because you never really knows what's going to happen. If you can find that the same people are on the grand jury consistently, that's certainly something you can hammer the judge about.
[01:22:49.060 --> 01:22:59.060]  Move to strike all the indictments as invalid because the foreman was improperly paneled.
[01:22:59.060 --> 01:23:02.060]  Yeah, okay.
[01:23:02.060 --> 01:23:06.060]  All right, I'll go.
[01:23:06.060 --> 01:23:16.060]  Okay, thank you, Danny. Now we're going to go to Tina and California.
[01:23:16.060 --> 01:23:20.060]  Oops, let me see. I did that wrong.
[01:23:20.060 --> 01:23:23.060]  Okay, unmute Danny.
[01:23:23.060 --> 01:23:32.060]  Unmute, Tina. Oh, this is... Danny, you dropped off just as I was going to unmute you and I selected you.
[01:23:32.060 --> 01:23:38.060]  Give me a second here. Okay, Tina. Go ahead, Tina.
[01:23:38.060 --> 01:23:44.060]  Randy, you're just kidding. I don't know what's happening to you lately.
[01:23:44.060 --> 01:23:52.060]  I clicked a button. It was the wrong button. I have to wait for my screen to refresh.
[01:23:52.060 --> 01:23:56.060]  Okay, I made a mistake. First time.
[01:23:56.060 --> 01:24:02.060]  Somebody's got to give you a hard time, right? Might as well be.
[01:24:02.060 --> 01:24:12.060]  You only give me a hard time because I earned it.
[01:24:12.060 --> 01:24:22.060]  And because you can laugh at yourself. Anyway, before we go a little bit more into my issue the other day and what the next steps are,
[01:24:22.060 --> 01:24:34.060]  what you were talking about with this gentleman, remember I had that issue with the clerks who wouldn't file my complaint
[01:24:34.060 --> 01:24:45.060]  because they weren't sure it was the correct venue and it was in the queue to go to the supervisor and then to a judge
[01:24:45.060 --> 01:24:59.060]  and it wasn't on the high priority list and you advised me to file a, what is it, conduct complaint, professional conduct complaint.
[01:24:59.060 --> 01:25:06.060]  I didn't have any forms for it or anything but I just hammered out a letter stating what happened
[01:25:06.060 --> 01:25:14.060]  and my lead up to how I'd filed it here and I'd done everything they'd asked me and I kept getting the runaround
[01:25:14.060 --> 01:25:21.060]  and I just titled it professional conduct complaint and I put it in an envelope and drove down the courthouse
[01:25:21.060 --> 01:25:28.060]  and left it there and I got a call the next morning and that supervisor couldn't have been nicer to me.
[01:25:28.060 --> 01:25:35.060]  She was just brimming with nicety and was sorry and this is why we did this and people get charged.
[01:25:35.060 --> 01:25:42.060]  If they file in the wrong venue and then it has to be moved, they have to pay again which I think is absolutely appalling
[01:25:42.060 --> 01:25:51.060]  because why can't the court, as you've said before, go file it in the next door county and then ask them to move it.
[01:25:51.060 --> 01:26:00.060]  Why can't they just move it to the right without making that person pay a second fee?
[01:26:00.060 --> 01:26:05.060]  That's not good.
[01:26:05.060 --> 01:26:16.060]  But it showed me too that just writing something down and being very firm but polite and saying you are practicing law
[01:26:16.060 --> 01:26:21.060]  and giving me legal advice and you can't do that.
[01:26:21.060 --> 01:26:29.060]  It really made a difference and showed me that if you do stand up to them and you do it right,
[01:26:29.060 --> 01:26:35.060]  then they will turn around because they don't want those professional conduct complaints against them.
[01:26:35.060 --> 01:26:42.060]  So I think we do have to teach some of our people what to do and I wish they had learned all this
[01:26:42.060 --> 01:26:49.060]  when I was trying to file things in the County Recorder's Office and they wouldn't let me do that.
[01:26:49.060 --> 01:26:55.060]  So thank you, I got my file.
[01:26:55.060 --> 01:26:59.060]  So good. So this does work.
[01:26:59.060 --> 01:27:05.060]  And generally the clerks want to do the right thing.
[01:27:05.060 --> 01:27:16.060]  Sometimes they forget who they are and the limits of their authority and mostly they deal with people that don't know anything.
[01:27:16.060 --> 01:27:20.060]  And they can pretty well tell them anything they want to.
[01:27:20.060 --> 01:27:28.060]  And once someone's been there a while, they kind of begin to treat the public with disdain.
[01:27:28.060 --> 01:27:35.060]  And they need someone like you to give them a good swift kick in the professional derriere
[01:27:35.060 --> 01:27:44.060]  to get them to exercise their professional decorum.
[01:27:44.060 --> 01:27:45.060]  Yes.
[01:27:45.060 --> 01:27:46.060]  So you did good.
[01:27:46.060 --> 01:27:53.060]  You also, yeah I did good thanks to you, but I wouldn't have known how to do that if I hadn't contacted you
[01:27:53.060 --> 01:28:00.060]  and saying hey this is three weeks they haven't filed my complaint and I didn't know that before.
[01:28:00.060 --> 01:28:09.060]  But it is incumbent upon us to learn what we can do and what powers we have.
[01:28:09.060 --> 01:28:15.060]  Because we don't know that. I talk to people all the time now about your show and what I've learned
[01:28:15.060 --> 01:28:20.060]  and how we need to keep educating ourselves, we need to keep learning the law.
[01:28:20.060 --> 01:28:23.060]  And it's a full-time job almost to do that.
[01:28:23.060 --> 01:28:29.060]  But I mean I've spoken to people who have no idea what I'm going through, what others have gone through.
[01:28:29.060 --> 01:28:32.060]  And they say well you can't fight City Hall, you can't do this.
[01:28:32.060 --> 01:28:34.060]  No, nobody can fight City Hall.
[01:28:34.060 --> 01:28:35.060]  I'm like why not?
[01:28:35.060 --> 01:28:40.060]  Somebody's got to fight them because otherwise they get too much power.
[01:28:40.060 --> 01:28:53.060]  And that's what's happened is through a series of seemingly minor adjustments toward adjudicating expediency
[01:28:53.060 --> 01:29:07.060]  and administrative convenience, they've so morphed the law that it doesn't look anything like what the statutes require.
[01:29:07.060 --> 01:29:15.060]  And the problem is you've got otherwise good people doing what they think is the right thing the way they've been trained.
[01:29:15.060 --> 01:29:18.060]  It's just horribly wrong.
[01:29:18.060 --> 01:29:32.060]  And it's unfortunate that we have to go against or go after the low-level functionary that's following flawed policies.
[01:29:32.060 --> 01:29:36.060]  But that's the only one we have to go after.
[01:29:36.060 --> 01:29:39.060]  They're going to say well my boss told me to do this.
[01:29:39.060 --> 01:29:43.060]  Well we don't know that their boss told them to do it.
[01:29:43.060 --> 01:29:46.060]  Maybe the boss did, maybe they didn't.
[01:29:46.060 --> 01:29:51.060]  If the boss did, you need to put that in a verified affidavit.
[01:29:51.060 --> 01:29:54.060]  Then we can go after the boss.
[01:29:54.060 --> 01:29:57.060]  Boss, hang on.
[01:29:57.060 --> 01:30:01.060]  Hang on Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, we will...
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[01:33:59.060 --> 01:34:06.060]  Randy, Kelton, Brett, and we're talking to Tina in California.
[01:34:06.060 --> 01:34:08.060]  OK, I click.
[01:34:08.060 --> 01:34:09.060]  There we go.
[01:34:09.060 --> 01:34:12.060]  OK, you are live.
[01:34:12.060 --> 01:34:13.060]  I'm live.
[01:34:13.060 --> 01:34:14.060]  Oh, my God.
[01:34:14.060 --> 01:34:16.060]  Well, I'm alive, I hope.
[01:34:16.060 --> 01:34:21.060]  Anyway, something along the lines of doing everything with our public officials.
[01:34:21.060 --> 01:34:32.060]  I decided that I would call on local representative Salud Carbajal and try to arrange a meeting with him
[01:34:32.060 --> 01:34:42.060]  because I want to find out who's going to do something about this amazing rush of foreclosures we're going to have.
[01:34:42.060 --> 01:34:53.060]  And either the homeless problem and why California does not give us the same protections as other states
[01:34:53.060 --> 01:34:58.060]  under the First, Fourth, Fifth, and Fourteenth Amendments, I think.
[01:34:58.060 --> 01:35:07.060]  Because, you know, we, other people have the protection of being able to have their due process in court
[01:35:07.060 --> 01:35:10.060]  if they're going to have their property taken.
[01:35:10.060 --> 01:35:12.060]  We don't have that protection.
[01:35:12.060 --> 01:35:15.060]  They can just take it and we have no due process.
[01:35:15.060 --> 01:35:21.060]  So I called a couple of weeks ago to try to get a Zoom meeting with him and the assistant said,
[01:35:21.060 --> 01:35:26.060]  well, you know, let me take some details about what you want to talk to him about.
[01:35:26.060 --> 01:35:34.060]  And I wanted to talk to him about also why attorneys seem to not have the law applied to them.
[01:35:34.060 --> 01:35:37.060]  And then I didn't hear anything, didn't hear anything.
[01:35:37.060 --> 01:35:39.060]  And so I got a little frustrated.
[01:35:39.060 --> 01:35:46.060]  So yesterday I called and said, left a message saying, is our representative hiding from his constituents?
[01:35:46.060 --> 01:35:53.060]  Because I left a message asking for a meeting over two weeks ago and I have not heard back.
[01:35:53.060 --> 01:36:01.060]  So I got a call today saying that I can have a Zoom meeting, not with him, but with his assistant first
[01:36:01.060 --> 01:36:03.060]  and we can bring all these issues up.
[01:36:03.060 --> 01:36:06.060]  And she asked me if I wanted 30 minutes or more.
[01:36:06.060 --> 01:36:08.060]  And I said, I think we should have a little more than that.
[01:36:08.060 --> 01:36:10.060]  I have a few things to talk to you about.
[01:36:10.060 --> 01:36:16.060]  And then I could, I said I would send her some, you know, points that I want to look at.
[01:36:16.060 --> 01:36:23.060]  So any suggestions on what I should bring up at this meeting or how I might handle it?
[01:36:23.060 --> 01:36:29.060]  Because I just want to see if they're really going to have a sense.
[01:36:29.060 --> 01:36:39.060]  Okay, first question, what do you want your representative to do?
[01:36:39.060 --> 01:36:51.060]  I want them to, you know, start a bill to change California from a nonjudicial to a judicial state.
[01:36:51.060 --> 01:36:55.060]  Wow, that's a big deal.
[01:36:55.060 --> 01:37:07.060]  In order to do that, you have to understand that the representative has a relatively fixed budget.
[01:37:07.060 --> 01:37:17.060]  And if you ask him to do something like you want him to propose some legislation, you have to create for him a white paper.
[01:37:17.060 --> 01:37:24.060]  And the white paper needs to address all of the issues related to that legislation.
[01:37:24.060 --> 01:37:34.060]  He doesn't have the budget to do all of this research because he's probably got 500 people asking him to do things.
[01:37:34.060 --> 01:37:38.060]  He can't research all this stuff out. He just does not have the budget.
[01:37:38.060 --> 01:37:43.060]  So if you're going to ask him to do something, you need to provide him with a white paper.
[01:37:43.060 --> 01:38:02.060]  And the white paper will have to examine how this change in law will affect not only the people, the private individuals, but how it will affect commerce and how it will affect government institutions.
[01:38:02.060 --> 01:38:10.060]  Then you have to determine what the cost of this different structure would be.
[01:38:10.060 --> 01:38:23.060]  If you're asking them to go from a nonjudicial to a judicial, that means that every foreclosure would have to go before the court.
[01:38:23.060 --> 01:38:43.060]  And you would need to be able to give the legislator all of the information he needs to convince the legislature itself to adopt this particular issue.
[01:38:43.060 --> 01:38:50.060]  You can't expect the legislator to do that for you. You have to do all that legwork.
[01:38:50.060 --> 01:39:03.060]  As far as the cost, do you think she has to – you mentioned that she would need to show how the cost is different.
[01:39:03.060 --> 01:39:14.060]  If she can show that it is a violation of rights, particularly protected rights, is the cost really relevant?
[01:39:14.060 --> 01:39:26.060]  Yes. In a real world, in a perfect world, the cost would not be relevant. But in the world we live in, cost is always relevant.
[01:39:26.060 --> 01:39:32.060]  Public officials, legislators, they want money they can play with.
[01:39:32.060 --> 01:39:47.060]  So if you can show them something they can do that will free up funds that they could potentially then use for their pet projects, they're going to listen to you.
[01:39:47.060 --> 01:39:56.060]  But if you ask them to make a change in law that's going to cost the legislature or the state more money,
[01:39:56.060 --> 01:40:03.060]  the first thing they're going to want to know is, where am I going to get that money?
[01:40:03.060 --> 01:40:10.060]  Who do I take it away from? Because we necessarily have limited resources.
[01:40:10.060 --> 01:40:21.060]  So to give you money, they're going to have to take it from somewhere else, and you're going to need to show them where they can take it from, how to go about taking it from them.
[01:40:21.060 --> 01:40:30.060]  You have to do all the legwork if you want the legislature to take action on what you want,
[01:40:30.060 --> 01:40:44.060]  unless there is something politically volatile attached to this issue, like the murder of George Floyd in Minnesota.
[01:40:44.060 --> 01:40:53.060]  You can ask for your legislator to pass legislation that would prevent this from happening in the future,
[01:40:53.060 --> 01:41:03.060]  and because it's so much in the news, that would make his name go out to everybody and potentially get him more votes.
[01:41:03.060 --> 01:41:06.060]  You might be able to get him to do it that way.
[01:41:06.060 --> 01:41:15.060]  But even so, if you change the law to suit your perspective on how to fix this problem,
[01:41:15.060 --> 01:41:26.060]  if it costs more money than what they're doing now, you're going to have to show where the legislator can find that money that he could use to cover this.
[01:41:26.060 --> 01:41:31.060]  Otherwise, they're not even going to talk to you.
[01:41:31.060 --> 01:41:33.060]  Does that make sense, Tina?
[01:41:33.060 --> 01:41:46.060]  Well, it makes sense, but it's frustrating because why is it that justice depends upon where you live and how much money you have?
[01:41:46.060 --> 01:41:58.060]  Because if I lived in a judicial state, I have the opportunity to get due process in the court and to force the bank, whoever it is, the servicer,
[01:41:58.060 --> 01:42:06.060]  to bring in real proof that they really do own the notes and to learn that they have the right to foreclose.
[01:42:06.060 --> 01:42:10.060]  Whereas right now, I don't have that right. I have to fight myself.
[01:42:10.060 --> 01:42:27.060]  Okay. How could you write legislation that would effectively give you that right without destabilizing the current system?
[01:42:27.060 --> 01:42:30.060]  That I'm not sure.
[01:42:30.060 --> 01:42:35.060]  The legislator is not going to be sure either.
[01:42:35.060 --> 01:42:43.060]  You have to bring that to him and tell him you have to do all of his research for him.
[01:42:43.060 --> 01:42:46.060]  He don't have time.
[01:42:46.060 --> 01:42:53.060]  He doesn't have the resources to do research on your particular issue, so you have to research all this out for him.
[01:42:53.060 --> 01:43:09.060]  I'm looking at getting the jurisdictions to hold examining trials, and I go to the justice of the peace and say, this is why you were created.
[01:43:09.060 --> 01:43:20.060]  You do the small claims court, you do traffic, you do these other things, but that's not why your office was created.
[01:43:20.060 --> 01:43:28.060]  Your office was created for the specific purpose of standing between the police and the jailhouse door.
[01:43:28.060 --> 01:43:44.060]  If you enter this legislation that forces them to do this, then you're going to give the public the opportunity to run off the cliff.
[01:43:44.060 --> 01:44:00.060]  You got to give them something that they can benefit from. I'll pick this up on the other side. Randy Kalp and Brett Fountain, Wheel of Law Radio, we'll be right back.
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[01:46:23.060 --> 01:46:27.060]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio.
[01:46:27.060 --> 01:46:36.060]  And over the break, we were talking about this issue of how do you get a legislator to want to promote your project?
[01:46:36.060 --> 01:46:53.060]  Well, first, the only way a legislator can justify his existence is by demonstrating to his constituents all the great things that he's done for those constituents.
[01:46:53.060 --> 01:47:09.060]  Problem is, is he don't have the funds to do all this stuff. So first off, the legislator wants to introduce new statute or rules or codes.
[01:47:09.060 --> 01:47:13.060]  He wants to look like he's doing something, so he needs you to bring him stuff.
[01:47:13.060 --> 01:47:19.060]  But he don't have the money to do all the research, so you got to do all the research for it.
[01:47:19.060 --> 01:47:28.060]  You have to give him everything he needs to sell your idea to the appellate court.
[01:47:28.060 --> 01:47:33.060]  If you don't do that, he's going to look somewhere else.
[01:47:33.060 --> 01:47:38.060]  Now, he is motivated to propose new legislation.
[01:47:38.060 --> 01:47:50.060]  So by proposing new legislation, you can get him on your side. You can get him to listen.
[01:47:50.060 --> 01:47:58.060]  Because he has to be able, when it comes time to be re-elected, look at all these things I've done for you.
[01:47:58.060 --> 01:48:07.060]  If he sat there and not introduced anything, he's not going to have anything to say to his potential voters.
[01:48:07.060 --> 01:48:11.060]  Okay, so we understand what he needs.
[01:48:11.060 --> 01:48:18.060]  He needs this legislation, but he also needs all these questions answered.
[01:48:18.060 --> 01:48:29.060]  You give him both of those and show him how, by proposing this legislation and arguing it, you will get before the public.
[01:48:29.060 --> 01:48:38.060]  You are presenting an issue that's popular and palatable to the public.
[01:48:38.060 --> 01:48:41.060]  You want them to remember your name.
[01:48:41.060 --> 01:48:53.060]  When they see this name on this product you're promoting or this issue that's coming before the court, and you're the one that presented it, then you're going to get votes for you.
[01:48:53.060 --> 01:48:56.060]  You know, everything's political.
[01:48:56.060 --> 01:49:07.060]  And he would get votes because it's a very important issue in California right now because so many people were just thrown out of their homes and we've got a huge homeless problem.
[01:49:07.060 --> 01:49:16.060]  But now I see why people are reluctant to bring all this stuff because they don't have the funds, the wherewithal, the time to do it.
[01:49:16.060 --> 01:49:25.060]  I wouldn't even have the faintest idea how to start a white paper, but I will still think about what you said and still bring the issue up.
[01:49:25.060 --> 01:49:44.060]  What about bringing them into saying, how do we make our district attorneys and police enforce the laws that are on the books against attorneys as well as everyone else?
[01:49:44.060 --> 01:49:52.060]  What about bringing that in and how would I do that best?
[01:49:52.060 --> 01:50:01.060]  Bar grievances, motions to the higher courts for sanctions against the lawyer.
[01:50:01.060 --> 01:50:09.060]  But I want the legislature on my side for that.
[01:50:09.060 --> 01:50:13.060]  Wait, I missed that last part.
[01:50:13.060 --> 01:50:22.060]  I wanted to get the legislature's help to do all this and to push it forward because they don't listen to people like me for the most part.
[01:50:22.060 --> 01:50:26.060]  Yeah. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Yes, they do.
[01:50:26.060 --> 01:50:37.060]  I went to when I was a bar doesn't when I was listening in Austin, when I was living in Austin, I went to Senate subcommittee hearings.
[01:50:37.060 --> 01:50:42.060]  I'm in a state of twenty nine million people.
[01:50:42.060 --> 01:50:56.060]  And this was a piece of legislation that would allow the public to hold police responsible in certain circumstances for their behavior.
[01:50:56.060 --> 01:51:07.060]  We had six policemen in Harris County, Houston, Texas, chase a hundred and twenty pound eighth grader.
[01:51:07.060 --> 01:51:17.060]  He stopped. He laid down. He gave up. Six grown officers kicked and stomped him for a minute and 20 seconds.
[01:51:17.060 --> 01:51:22.060]  That is a very long time. The they put him in a hospital.
[01:51:22.060 --> 01:51:28.060]  The city went berserk and they wanted new legislation.
[01:51:28.060 --> 01:51:39.060]  They wanted the official misconduct legislation to be upgraded to a felony where there was bodily injury.
[01:51:39.060 --> 01:51:51.060]  And we went down to a Senate subcommittee hearing. This is the kind of thing that would affect anyone who has children, especially if they live in a low income area.
[01:51:51.060 --> 01:52:01.060]  In a state of twenty nine million people, right at one hundred people showed up.
[01:52:01.060 --> 01:52:07.060]  Seventy five percent of which were special interests and lobbying groups.
[01:52:07.060 --> 01:52:10.060]  Twenty four people showed up.
[01:52:10.060 --> 01:52:14.060]  Twenty four citizens showed up.
[01:52:14.060 --> 01:52:29.060]  And these lawyers for these special interest groups got up there and they blah, blah, blah, yada, yada, yada. And the senators are looking at one another, picking their fingernails, bored, stiff.
[01:52:29.060 --> 01:52:50.060]  This woman, I'm sorry, I get Eddie Craig to come down there and address 2202 B2A, Texas. I mean, the first degree felony aggravated assault by a public official acting outside the scope of his authority.
[01:52:50.060 --> 01:52:59.060]  The prosecutor got up and told the Senate subcommittee hearing that official oppression was the only thing they could charge him with.
[01:52:59.060 --> 01:53:04.060]  Eddie gets up. He's just a citizen.
[01:53:04.060 --> 01:53:09.060]  And he read them the riot act.
[01:53:09.060 --> 01:53:23.060]  He made it clear to them that when the lawyer told you that that Class A misdemeanor official oppression was the only thing they could charge the officers with, he lied to you.
[01:53:23.060 --> 01:53:28.060]  He's standing right in front of the prosecutor who did that.
[01:53:28.060 --> 01:53:47.060]  He said, in fact, you have 2202 B2A, which makes it a first degree felony. And this lawyer lied to you about it. When Eddie's up there talking to him from the perspective of an ordinary citizen, these guys were leaning forward in their seats.
[01:53:47.060 --> 01:53:50.060]  They were paying attention.
[01:53:50.060 --> 01:53:52.060]  Not bored anymore.
[01:53:52.060 --> 01:53:54.060]  Exactly.
[01:53:54.060 --> 01:54:03.060]  In a state of 29 million, where was everybody else?
[01:54:03.060 --> 01:54:08.060]  He was the only one who spoke to this particular issue.
[01:54:08.060 --> 01:54:19.060]  In a state of 29 million people, the governor issues all of these outrageous orders that just trash our Constitution.
[01:54:19.060 --> 01:54:26.060]  Why did only one person file a complaint?
[01:54:26.060 --> 01:54:33.060]  If there had been a city subcommittee hearing and I went before that, I said, city, Senate.
[01:54:33.060 --> 01:54:38.060]  We got nearly five or six senators sitting up there.
[01:54:38.060 --> 01:54:53.060]  They pay attention to me. They pay attention to Eddie. They pay close attention to the citizens. They know all these lobby groups are there just trying to pad their own pockets and get special favors.
[01:54:53.060 --> 01:54:58.060]  But the ordinary citizen represents their voters.
[01:54:58.060 --> 01:55:19.060]  They want to know what their voter thinks. And those who go to those subcommittee hearings are able to give the courts a good idea of what the voters think because every single citizen to a legislator or a politician represents 15 votes.
[01:55:19.060 --> 01:55:29.060]  And when you're a senator, a state representative, state senator, state representative, these votes can be very close.
[01:55:29.060 --> 01:55:34.060]  So they really do pay attention to you.
[01:55:34.060 --> 01:55:42.060]  When a citizen comes before them, you got their attention. We can have more power than we ever realized.
[01:55:42.060 --> 01:55:50.060]  Just going to these subcommittee hearings or lobbying to your legislators.
[01:55:50.060 --> 01:55:58.060]  Give them the information they need. They are motivated to file new legislation, makes them look good.
[01:55:58.060 --> 01:56:07.060]  Everything works in your favor, but you have to give them what they need to be able to do it. Does that make sense? Or am I beating this thing to death?
[01:56:07.060 --> 01:56:20.060]  Tina. It makes sense in a lot of ways, but it makes me realize why so few people do it because I'm fighting so much and getting nowhere.
[01:56:20.060 --> 01:56:28.060]  Time is the issue and people become overwhelmed with how do we even start to do this?
[01:56:28.060 --> 01:56:37.060]  I'd like to be a thorn in the side. I'd like to keep saying, hey, I'm going to make you work for us and I'll start here on Tuesday with the meeting.
[01:56:37.060 --> 01:56:43.060]  But I'm realizing that it's far bigger than I'm capable of at this present time.
[01:56:43.060 --> 01:56:47.060]  But I'm not. I'm just going to at least start it.
[01:56:47.060 --> 01:56:50.060]  And I'm going to suggest that.
[01:56:50.060 --> 01:56:56.060]  It does not take near as much time and effort as you think.
[01:56:56.060 --> 01:57:04.060]  When you go down and ask to sit down with your legislator, they pay attention.
[01:57:04.060 --> 01:57:16.060]  Let's say you're the head, the CEO of a large company and your guys down in the at the bottom screw up something horribly.
[01:57:16.060 --> 01:57:24.060]  Are they going to come to say to you and say, oh, my goodness, I made a horrible mistake and I screwed all this up?
[01:57:24.060 --> 01:57:27.060]  Not in this lifetime.
[01:57:27.060 --> 01:57:36.060]  If you're the head of a major corporation, you have no idea what's going on below you because nobody's going to tell you.
[01:57:36.060 --> 01:57:47.060]  When I walked into the office of the president of the Katie Railroad and I want to know why we're losing 24 people a year in traffic deaths from rock trucks.
[01:57:47.060 --> 01:57:54.060]  And you've got that railroad running through our town and you're not using it.
[01:57:54.060 --> 01:58:01.060]  I got his attention two years later.
[01:58:01.060 --> 01:58:04.060]  Most of the rock trucks were gone.
[01:58:04.060 --> 01:58:08.060]  I had a company call me out to clean up a couple of trucks so they could sell them.
[01:58:08.060 --> 01:58:17.060]  And I said, it must not be much rock moving with this 1985 depression recession in Texas. Oh, plenty of rock moving.
[01:58:17.060 --> 01:58:21.060]  Darn railroads hauling it all.
[01:58:21.060 --> 01:58:26.060]  Well, I don't know if I had anything to do with that, but I like to think I did.
[01:58:26.060 --> 01:58:33.060]  I crawled down the president's throat and when I get done with him, he's crawling down everybody's throat.
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