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[00:45.920 --> 00:52.480]  Today in history, the year 1916, the preparedness day bombing, a time suitcase bomb was detonated
[00:52.480 --> 00:57.840]  on Market Street in San Francisco during the World War I Preparedness Day Parade, killing
[00:57.840 --> 01:04.800]  10 and entering 40 today in history.
[01:04.800 --> 01:09.440]  And recent news, since Governor Greg Abbott signed House Bill 1325 legalizing Hemp and
[01:09.440 --> 01:14.320]  attacks his law back in June, county prosecutors around the state, including Houston, Austin,
[01:14.320 --> 01:18.120]  and San Antonio, have been dropping marijuana possession charges and even refusing to file
[01:18.120 --> 01:22.320]  new ones, since they are stipulating that they do not have the time or the laboratory
[01:22.320 --> 01:24.800]  equipment to test the herb for THC.
[01:24.800 --> 01:28.480]  Margaret Moore, the Travis County District Attorney, announced earlier this month that
[01:28.480 --> 01:33.040]  she was dismissing 32 felony possession and delivery of marijuana cases because of the
[01:33.040 --> 01:34.040]  law.
[01:34.040 --> 01:37.680]  Mr. Abbott and other state officials, including the Attorney General, stipulated in a letter
[01:37.680 --> 01:42.160]  to county district attorneys back on Thursday that marijuana has not been decriminalized
[01:42.160 --> 01:48.320]  in Texas and that these actions demonstrate a misunderstanding of how HB 1325 works, as
[01:48.320 --> 01:51.280]  well as other cities too, like the District Attorney.
[01:51.280 --> 01:56.880]  In El Paso, Cayman Esparza, a Democrat who also stated earlier this month that the law
[01:56.880 --> 02:01.800]  quote will not have an effect on the prosecution of marijuana cases in El Paso.
[02:01.800 --> 02:06.800]  However, the issue was succinctly summarized by Mr. Brandon Ball, an assistant public defender
[02:06.800 --> 02:10.800]  in Harris County, who stated that quote, the law is constantly changing on what makes
[02:10.800 --> 02:13.520]  something illegal based on its chemical makeup.
[02:13.520 --> 02:21.960]  It's important that if someone is charged with something, the test matches what they're
[02:21.960 --> 02:22.960]  charged with.
[02:22.960 --> 02:27.280]  A paper by Tulane University identified a five and a half inch American pocket shark
[02:27.280 --> 02:32.400]  as the first of its kind in the Gulf of Mexico, the specimen being only the second pocket
[02:32.400 --> 02:38.080]  shark ever captured or recorded with the other one being found way back in 1979 in the East
[02:38.080 --> 02:39.080]  Pacific Ocean.
[02:39.080 --> 02:43.840]  According to the university paper, the shark secretes a luminous fluid from a gland near
[02:43.840 --> 02:50.080]  its front fins for the purpose it is hypothesized to lure and prey who may be drawn into the
[02:50.080 --> 03:17.080]  glow.
[03:17.080 --> 03:36.920]  Okay, we are back.
[03:36.920 --> 03:42.800]  Wendy Kelkin, Brett Fountain, Lou Laurelio, and we're talking to Chris in Colorado.
[03:42.800 --> 03:47.440]  Tina did kind of go to the subject I want to go to.
[03:47.440 --> 03:54.800]  I'm building this technology where we can take an issue like this.
[03:54.800 --> 04:00.400]  If we take this spreadsheet and go through these cases and look up the legal arguments
[04:00.400 --> 04:06.920]  that they're bringing, I'm hoping we find several of them, then we look at each of the
[04:06.920 --> 04:17.200]  arguments and say, okay, what facts do we need to develop to invoke this legal element?
[04:17.200 --> 04:23.080]  And then we build a questionnaire and we ask for those facts and we look at other elements
[04:23.080 --> 04:28.280]  where every element we can find and in our questionnaire we ask for facts that go to
[04:28.280 --> 04:35.600]  all of them and we can do that in a logical progression so that the user doesn't really
[04:35.600 --> 04:38.320]  recognize what we're doing.
[04:38.320 --> 04:42.760]  And with this questionnaire, each question that I ask, I have a section that explains
[04:42.760 --> 04:44.880]  to them why we ask that question.
[04:44.880 --> 04:53.760]  I've also put in questions that are not really so much intended to gather information but
[04:53.760 --> 04:57.080]  to instruct them on what their rights are.
[04:57.080 --> 05:00.960]  You know, like if somebody's arrested, I ask, well, you're arrested.
[05:00.960 --> 05:01.960]  Yes.
[05:01.960 --> 05:03.920]  Well, you're arrested on an existing warrant.
[05:03.920 --> 05:05.080]  Yes.
[05:05.080 --> 05:11.320]  Did the arresting officer take you directly to the nearest magistrate by the most direct
[05:11.320 --> 05:12.320]  route?
[05:12.320 --> 05:19.080]  And for the most part, people will say, huh, what's that got to do with anything?
[05:19.080 --> 05:21.560]  And then I have an explanation here.
[05:21.560 --> 05:25.360]  This is what the law commands and they say, oh, he just threw me in jail.
[05:25.360 --> 05:26.960]  Is that not what he's supposed to do?
[05:26.960 --> 05:32.840]  Yeah, we say that's an active efficient misconduct and here's the criminal complaint that our
[05:32.840 --> 05:39.040]  system will spit out and here's a professional conduct complaint, our system will spit out
[05:39.040 --> 05:42.880]  and here's a motion to dismiss for denial of due process.
[05:42.880 --> 05:45.600]  The system will spit all these out and you got to sign them and send them.
[05:45.600 --> 05:50.600]  You don't even have to know what the underlying law is.
[05:50.600 --> 05:55.000]  Chris, does that make sense for them doing?
[05:55.000 --> 05:58.760]  Yeah, that's a heck of a project for sure.
[05:58.760 --> 06:01.400]  So let's look for all the issues we can find.
[06:01.400 --> 06:04.600]  We don't have to start with everything.
[06:04.600 --> 06:06.080]  We just start with a couple of arguments.
[06:06.080 --> 06:11.880]  We can find a couple of arguments out of these lawsuits and take them right out of their
[06:11.880 --> 06:18.800]  lawsuits and put them into this one and ask questions that go to it and then as we come
[06:18.800 --> 06:28.480]  across variations, we research the variation, add it in and before long, we will have a
[06:28.480 --> 06:34.400]  comprehensive database of all the variations and possibilities and one thing I'm going
[06:34.400 --> 06:42.280]  to assure you, there aren't anywhere near as many variations as you would think.
[06:42.280 --> 06:48.440]  A lawyer thinks that if I get a client in here and figuring out what that client needs
[06:48.440 --> 06:56.440]  is an art form because there's an infinite number of possibilities, no, there's not.
[06:56.440 --> 07:02.840]  There's a very fixed set of legal elements that apply to this issue and it looks complicated
[07:02.840 --> 07:09.160]  because you don't always get to those legal elements in a direct line.
[07:09.160 --> 07:14.680]  I'll ask you a question that goes to a legal element and you'll say no and I said, okay,
[07:14.680 --> 07:19.120]  I'll ask you a question that goes to a different legal element and you'll say yes and then
[07:19.120 --> 07:20.320]  I ask another one.
[07:20.320 --> 07:23.840]  I'll eventually come back to that element you said no about because I'm going to need
[07:23.840 --> 07:25.640]  more about it.
[07:25.640 --> 07:31.360]  The elements all have, let's say, murder.
[07:31.360 --> 07:37.560]  There are certain things that must always be there if you're going to charge murder.
[07:37.560 --> 07:44.920]  There has to be evidence of a death that doesn't necessarily have to be a body.
[07:44.920 --> 07:49.960]  There has to be evidence of a death, there has to be evidence that someone killed another
[07:49.960 --> 08:02.840]  person, that the, what's the elements of murder, Brett, that the killing was intentional or
[08:02.840 --> 08:05.520]  negligent or reckless.
[08:05.520 --> 08:08.720]  The death was the cause of that action.
[08:08.720 --> 08:17.800]  And that a certain person committed an act that was proximate to the cause of the death
[08:17.800 --> 08:26.320]  and that the act committed was either intentional, negligent or something, I have to look it
[08:26.320 --> 08:27.320]  up.
[08:27.320 --> 08:29.600]  But anyway, all those elements have to be there.
[08:29.600 --> 08:33.120]  So how you get to those elements, you may not get them all in order.
[08:33.120 --> 08:37.040]  You may jump around depending on the facts they tell you.
[08:37.040 --> 08:40.360]  But you always have to get to every one of them and that's why lawyers tend to think
[08:40.360 --> 08:43.360]  that what they're doing is hugely complex.
[08:43.360 --> 08:47.320]  DUI, I broke that down into a questionnaire.
[08:47.320 --> 08:53.600]  And the questionnaire was so huge that my eight processor, I think I had eight terabytes
[08:53.600 --> 08:58.320]  of RAM in it at the time, took 20 minutes to open the file.
[08:58.320 --> 09:04.400]  And it's clocked out at 4 gig, as fast as we can get them, took 20 minutes to open the
[09:04.400 --> 09:06.400]  file.
[09:06.400 --> 09:13.120]  When I went down and broke it down into elements, I had 19 elements, each one had between five
[09:13.120 --> 09:18.960]  and 12 questions in it and that was it.
[09:18.960 --> 09:21.480]  These issues are like that.
[09:21.480 --> 09:26.960]  What we're looking at here, Chris, is even more focused.
[09:26.960 --> 09:34.440]  It won't be very complex because there's one issue we're going after.
[09:34.440 --> 09:40.640]  The only complexity at all is the variation in one state to another.
[09:40.640 --> 09:48.000]  And if one state doesn't have the law we need, we can drag it in from another state.
[09:48.000 --> 09:53.200]  I'm capable of following through with following paperwork like that, Randy, for sure.
[09:53.200 --> 09:55.920]  I mean, I don't hesitate these days.
[09:55.920 --> 10:01.000]  It's kind of like you when the police officer pulls you over and you just get them to say
[10:01.000 --> 10:02.760]  the wrong thing and you dial 9-9-1.
[10:02.760 --> 10:03.760]  It's just natural to you.
[10:03.760 --> 10:06.440]  For some reason, this particular process is pretty natural to me.
[10:06.440 --> 10:11.560]  I get managers and people to back down all the time, but I'm the only one in these facilities
[10:11.560 --> 10:13.600]  that I'm seeing around me doing it.
[10:13.600 --> 10:14.600]  Okay.
[10:14.600 --> 10:20.600]  Let's capture your skill.
[10:20.600 --> 10:27.200]  The primary tool that I have is a tool for capturing your knowledge base.
[10:27.200 --> 10:33.720]  I didn't capture that and put it into a questionnaire.
[10:33.720 --> 10:42.000]  And then when you come out across other people with other skills, we add those to it.
[10:42.000 --> 10:51.160]  All people need to know if, you know, have you ever ridden a bull?
[10:51.160 --> 10:54.560]  A living one?
[10:54.560 --> 10:55.560]  Yeah.
[10:55.560 --> 11:00.200]  I did the electronic one a few times in my teenage years.
[11:00.200 --> 11:05.680]  Now you've got some idea of how to get on a bull.
[11:05.680 --> 11:11.520]  Someone who's never been on a horse or a bull or anything, you ask them to ride a bull and
[11:11.520 --> 11:14.760]  they have absolutely zero knowledge.
[11:14.760 --> 11:18.880]  They have no idea of where to start.
[11:18.880 --> 11:24.000]  Most people, when a policeman turns the lights on them, they have absolutely zero idea of
[11:24.000 --> 11:26.120]  what to do.
[11:26.120 --> 11:28.160]  So they're terrified of it.
[11:28.160 --> 11:33.520]  All we have to do is get them across the threshold.
[11:33.520 --> 11:38.960]  In my criminal questionnaire, that's why I asked that question so early.
[11:38.960 --> 11:44.760]  Did the officer take you directly to the nearest magistrate by the most direct route?
[11:44.760 --> 11:45.760]  No?
[11:45.760 --> 11:46.760]  Oh my goodness.
[11:46.760 --> 11:50.400]  Holy mackerel, look at the crimes he committed.
[11:50.400 --> 11:56.280]  Now all of a sudden the guy is saying, oh, maybe I do have something I can do.
[11:56.280 --> 12:03.200]  By the time I've done that two or three times, now they're beginning to build some confidence.
[12:03.200 --> 12:08.280]  And then I send them these documents and they say, well, I don't understand the documents.
[12:08.280 --> 12:09.680]  Who cares?
[12:09.680 --> 12:12.200]  Just send them.
[12:12.200 --> 12:18.640]  The other ones that have to understand them, not you, when they don't deal with them correctly,
[12:18.640 --> 12:21.560]  oh goody, we'll go back and hammer them for that.
[12:21.560 --> 12:25.960]  When anybody's been through this process one time, we'll have confidence.
[12:25.960 --> 12:27.600]  We'll have created monsters.
[12:27.600 --> 12:31.200]  I want to see how many we can create.
[12:31.200 --> 12:37.400]  How many people do you think it would take filing lawsuits against Home Depot?
[12:37.400 --> 12:43.640]  Before Home Depot said, screw these masks.
[12:43.640 --> 12:45.080]  Let the governor come after us.
[12:45.080 --> 12:46.920]  We'll fight the governor.
[12:46.920 --> 12:49.120]  That's just one suit.
[12:49.120 --> 12:51.760]  But we're getting suits coming out our ears.
[12:51.760 --> 12:55.360]  We can't afford this.
[12:55.360 --> 12:57.320]  We can do this.
[12:57.320 --> 13:04.640]  I talked to employees, and I think the employees are the main key because that's also the ever-leveraging
[13:04.640 --> 13:05.640]  factor.
[13:05.640 --> 13:08.640]  They're threatening their employees with employment.
[13:08.640 --> 13:12.480]  They're trying to threaten customers, but obviously it doesn't work well.
[13:12.480 --> 13:13.480]  They've learned that.
[13:13.480 --> 13:18.240]  That took a few months, but now it's up to the employees to start pushing back.
[13:18.240 --> 13:22.000]  And I talked to a girl today, and then the Walmart, I went to the FedEx pick up packages
[13:22.000 --> 13:23.000]  at the Walmart.
[13:23.000 --> 13:24.000]  She's like, well, what do we do?
[13:24.000 --> 13:25.000]  How do I?
[13:25.000 --> 13:27.560]  There's no law that says you have to do this.
[13:27.560 --> 13:32.720]  And then enforcing this on you is actually against your rights under HIPAA and OSHA, and
[13:32.720 --> 13:34.200]  you can push it all day long.
[13:34.200 --> 13:37.280]  They're also enforcing all kinds of stuff that there's no laws for.
[13:37.280 --> 13:45.840]  So you have to actually say, well, let's build a database for things you can do.
[13:45.840 --> 13:53.800]  If you're being forced by your employer to do this thing, and this thing is not in accordance
[13:53.800 --> 13:57.400]  with law, go to this questionnaire.
[13:57.400 --> 14:00.760]  Did the employer tell you you had to do this?
[14:00.760 --> 14:05.600]  And if they say yes, then we demonstrate a remedy.
[14:05.600 --> 14:08.080]  Did they ask you, did they demand you do this?
[14:08.080 --> 14:10.000]  Yeah, we demonstrate another remedy.
[14:10.000 --> 14:12.200]  Now, they don't have to sue their employer.
[14:12.200 --> 14:14.640]  I'm sorry, they don't have to sue their employer.
[14:14.640 --> 14:22.960]  They can just take our audit and give it to the employer and say, look, this is what
[14:22.960 --> 14:27.160]  you're setting me up for.
[14:27.160 --> 14:29.680]  You're asking me to do this, and I'm going to be sued.
[14:29.680 --> 14:36.120]  This guy out here is preparing to sue me for doing what you told him to.
[14:36.120 --> 14:43.200]  That's exactly why we want to file professional conduct complaints against police officers.
[14:43.200 --> 14:50.600]  They can get six, six professional conduct complaints, even if they're not warranted.
[14:50.600 --> 14:51.600]  They don't care.
[14:51.600 --> 14:56.400]  You've got an insurance guy there, it's his job to charge his client as much as possible
[14:56.400 --> 14:59.320]  and avoid any claims.
[14:59.320 --> 15:04.360]  A police officer gets a professional conduct complaint against him by a citizen, meh.
[15:04.360 --> 15:11.200]  That's a mark, because he knows that no matter what the complaint is, the organization is
[15:11.200 --> 15:16.280]  going to throw it in a trash, so he don't care if it's valid or not, by the numbers.
[15:16.280 --> 15:19.960]  Okay, for the poor policeman, that is patently unfair.
[15:19.960 --> 15:23.760]  Yeah, that's tough, deal with it.
[15:23.760 --> 15:28.040]  Chief sends you out to write these tickets, they write me a ticket, the guy gets a professional
[15:28.040 --> 15:31.080]  conduct complaint against him immediately.
[15:31.080 --> 15:36.800]  He's going to go to the chief and say, tell you what, Bubba, you want those tickets written,
[15:36.800 --> 15:38.360]  you go write them.
[15:38.360 --> 15:41.960]  I'm not going to lose my career for your tickets.
[15:41.960 --> 15:44.760]  We have to give them plausible deniability.
[15:44.760 --> 15:53.720]  We give the employees something they can reasonably take to their boss and say, this is the jeopardy
[15:53.720 --> 15:57.280]  you're putting me in.
[15:57.280 --> 16:03.920]  Then their bosses have leverage to go to the higher ups and say, look what you're doing
[16:03.920 --> 16:06.960]  here, you're going to get sued.
[16:06.960 --> 16:11.720]  I think we can do this from the inside, it's always the one at the bottom.
[16:11.720 --> 16:15.880]  You and I, we have more power than anybody.
[16:15.880 --> 16:21.960]  I once called the chairman of the board of Cintel and gave the phone to a friend of mine
[16:21.960 --> 16:27.240]  who was furious and he threatened to kick the guys behind over his phone.
[16:27.240 --> 16:31.400]  You would not believe what happened.
[16:31.400 --> 16:36.840]  All we need to do is give them a tool to get over that threshold that first step.
[16:36.840 --> 16:43.800]  And we do that, Chris, you may email, I'd like to talk to you offline about this.
[16:43.800 --> 16:44.800]  Okay.
[16:44.800 --> 16:45.800]  I will do that.
[16:45.800 --> 16:46.800]  Thank you.
[16:46.800 --> 16:47.800]  Thank you, Chris.
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[20:05.440 --> 20:15.240]  It's the 21st of August, 2020, and we are going to go ahead and go to David in Texas,
[20:15.240 --> 20:17.440]  our next caller.
[20:17.440 --> 20:20.440]  David, what do you have for us this evening?
[20:20.440 --> 20:32.440]  Wait a minute, David, do you have your head in a toilet?
[20:32.440 --> 20:36.440]  No, it's in the bathroom.
[20:36.440 --> 20:42.440]  Okay, are you using a hands-free mic?
[20:42.440 --> 20:46.440]  No, I'm on Skype.
[20:46.440 --> 20:51.440]  Okay, are you using the computer mic on Skype?
[20:51.440 --> 20:52.440]  Yeah.
[20:52.440 --> 20:53.440]  That's why.
[20:53.440 --> 20:57.440]  It sounds like you're in a well.
[20:57.440 --> 21:03.440]  Could you possibly call us back on a cell phone or a home phone?
[21:03.440 --> 21:05.440]  I don't have a cell phone.
[21:05.440 --> 21:08.440]  Oh, okay, then we'll deal with it.
[21:08.440 --> 21:15.440]  I'll just accuse you of having your head in a toilet and have fun at your expense.
[21:15.440 --> 21:16.440]  Okay.
[21:16.440 --> 21:18.440]  Okay, go ahead.
[21:18.440 --> 21:31.440]  Okay, I have a lawsuit in the US court, and the opposing attorney sent me a court limit.
[21:31.440 --> 21:41.440]  One was a declaratory of the client, and there were five of them here, five statements.
[21:41.440 --> 21:48.440]  And one was they were lying on, they lied on doing them there.
[21:48.440 --> 21:53.440]  So I filed criminal charges against opposing the attorney and the client.
[21:53.440 --> 21:57.440]  Was that a good idea?
[21:57.440 --> 21:58.440]  I'm not sure.
[21:58.440 --> 22:02.440]  I'm having trouble understanding you, so I didn't get a good fix on the background.
[22:02.440 --> 22:05.440]  Could you understand him, Brett?
[22:05.440 --> 22:07.440]  I think I got part of that.
[22:07.440 --> 22:08.440]  There was a lawsuit.
[22:08.440 --> 22:13.440]  I don't know if he's applying it for the defendant, but there was a declaratory.
[22:13.440 --> 22:17.440]  I guess he means a declaratory judgment suit, maybe a ruling about it.
[22:17.440 --> 22:28.440]  And then he filed criminal charges against somebody, and he was asking if that was a good idea.
[22:28.440 --> 22:37.440]  Okay, fine criminal charges is a good idea if you have them dead back.
[22:37.440 --> 22:42.440]  What did they do that would warrant criminal charges?
[22:42.440 --> 22:48.440]  Well, because the address wrongs of where the incident happened,
[22:48.440 --> 22:54.440]  then they went to the mailbox and went through the mailbox and took the mail out,
[22:54.440 --> 22:57.440]  and they said they didn't take the mail out.
[22:57.440 --> 23:08.440]  So I filed a criminal charges on what's that, 18 U.S. code, 1341.
[23:08.440 --> 23:10.440]  Wait a minute.
[23:10.440 --> 23:11.440]  Wait a minute.
[23:11.440 --> 23:13.440]  They took the mail out of the mailbox.
[23:13.440 --> 23:16.440]  Was it their mail or your mail?
[23:16.440 --> 23:19.440]  Oh, it was our mailbox.
[23:19.440 --> 23:28.440]  Everyone was looking for the salmon color card because I didn't pick up the violation type of post office.
[23:28.440 --> 23:33.440]  Wait, did you understand that, Brett?
[23:33.440 --> 23:41.440]  I think he was saying that the criminal actors came to his mailbox, to David's mailbox,
[23:41.440 --> 23:47.440]  and opened it up and took something out of there that had been addressed to him.
[23:47.440 --> 23:50.440]  And he said a salmon color slip.
[23:50.440 --> 23:56.440]  I'm guessing that means something that was at the post office that he was supposed to go pick up,
[23:56.440 --> 24:00.440]  and they came and took that slip from his mailbox.
[24:00.440 --> 24:01.440]  Is that right, David?
[24:01.440 --> 24:03.440]  Did I get that right?
[24:03.440 --> 24:05.440]  Yes.
[24:05.440 --> 24:13.440]  That is definitely something to file criminal charges for.
[24:13.440 --> 24:22.440]  So was the post office able to tell you what document, if there was a manila colored slip,
[24:22.440 --> 24:30.440]  that means you have either a package or a certified mail at the post office you need to sign for.
[24:30.440 --> 24:37.440]  Did you go to the post office and see if you had something there waiting for you?
[24:37.440 --> 24:39.440]  No.
[24:39.440 --> 24:42.440]  You should do that.
[24:42.440 --> 24:55.440]  You should ask them if they have received a document for you that was certified that was never signed for and they returned.
[24:55.440 --> 24:57.440]  They'll have a record of that.
[24:57.440 --> 25:04.440]  Or if one of these criminal actors signed for it and took it.
[25:04.440 --> 25:07.440]  That would be even better.
[25:07.440 --> 25:14.440]  Maybe give them a time range of when you think a date range of when you think this happened
[25:14.440 --> 25:18.440]  and get the postmaster to look at that for you.
[25:18.440 --> 25:22.440]  And as to filing criminal charges for that?
[25:22.440 --> 25:24.440]  Absolutely.
[25:24.440 --> 25:32.440]  I had a friend who was in mail order years ago and he said, you think the FBI is bad?
[25:32.440 --> 25:36.440]  You haven't lived until you had the postal inspectors after you.
[25:36.440 --> 25:42.440]  So absolutely, file a criminal complaint with the postal inspectors.
[25:42.440 --> 25:55.440]  Well, I try to file with the judge the federal magistrate of criminal charges against the opposing attorney and the client.
[25:55.440 --> 26:01.440]  The client is a public official.
[26:01.440 --> 26:06.440]  Well, the client is a public defender.
[26:06.440 --> 26:12.440]  No, it's a public official enforcement code enforcement officer.
[26:12.440 --> 26:14.440]  Oh, OK, code enforcement.
[26:14.440 --> 26:17.440]  Oh, this is wonderful.
[26:17.440 --> 26:20.440]  Absolutely file against them.
[26:20.440 --> 26:26.440]  Wait until the postal inspector gets done with them.
[26:26.440 --> 26:29.440]  They're going to wonder what they stepped in.
[26:29.440 --> 26:35.440]  I file with the federal magistrate.
[26:35.440 --> 26:37.440]  That's who you file it with.
[26:37.440 --> 26:42.440]  That's or file it with the federal grand jury.
[26:42.440 --> 26:46.440]  I file with the federal grand jury, but they never got back to me.
[26:46.440 --> 26:51.440]  OK, OK, there's a whole routine for that.
[26:51.440 --> 26:56.440]  How did you send it to the federal grand jury?
[26:56.440 --> 26:58.440]  Where did you send it to?
[26:58.440 --> 27:04.440]  I sent it down to the federal courthouse and dropped it in the drop box there.
[27:04.440 --> 27:18.440]  OK, OK, rewrite the complaint and send it to the form under the grand jury at the address of the federal courthouse.
[27:18.440 --> 27:20.440]  Send it from the post office.
[27:20.440 --> 27:22.440]  Send it registered restricted.
[27:22.440 --> 27:30.440]  Restricted means only the person named can sign for it and insure it.
[27:30.440 --> 27:37.440]  Costs about five or ten bucks to insure it for like five grand.
[27:37.440 --> 27:45.440]  And then you put a cover letter on there addressed to the form under the grand jury until the form under the grand jury.
[27:45.440 --> 28:00.440]  Ask him to please initial this document and send it back to you so that you will know he received it as we have problems with prosecuting attorneys secreting criminal complaints from the grand jury.
[28:00.440 --> 28:11.440]  And you want to make sure that the prosecuting attorney is not hiding these complaints, but please do not sign it.
[28:11.440 --> 28:17.440]  Because the U.S. attorney has a rubber stamp with your name on it.
[28:17.440 --> 28:23.440]  And we want to make sure that he doesn't rubber stamp this document and send it back to us.
[28:23.440 --> 28:29.440]  Well, the U.S. attorney is going to get that complaint. He's going to open it.
[28:29.440 --> 28:35.440]  And when he sees that cover letter, there is no way he'll give that to the foreman.
[28:35.440 --> 28:38.440]  So then you won't get that cover letter back.
[28:38.440 --> 28:45.440]  When you don't, you go down to the post office and tell them you want your $5,000.
[28:45.440 --> 28:54.440]  You guys didn't deliver my document to the foreman of the grand jury because if you had, I would have got this cover letter back.
[28:54.440 --> 28:58.440]  So you didn't deliver it. I want my $5,000.
[28:58.440 --> 29:04.440]  The U.S. attorney is going to get a visit from the post of inspectors.
[29:04.440 --> 29:10.440]  They're not going to want to pay that $5,000. It's not because they care about the money.
[29:10.440 --> 29:15.440]  If they pay that $5,000, their bond rating goes up.
[29:15.440 --> 29:18.440]  So everything costs them more money.
[29:18.440 --> 29:22.440]  So you seek the postal inspectors on them.
[29:22.440 --> 29:28.440]  And then you send a second complaint against the U.S. attorney,
[29:28.440 --> 29:35.440]  accusing him of secreting these, your first criminal complaints from the grand jury.
[29:35.440 --> 29:40.440]  And you send that to the foreman with the same cover letter.
[29:40.440 --> 29:46.440]  That should get interested.
[29:46.440 --> 29:49.440]  Hang on. David, we're about to go to our sponsors.
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[33:26.440 --> 33:55.440]  Okay, we are back. This is the rule of law radio, Randy Kelton. I'm Brett Fountain.
[33:55.440 --> 33:59.440]  And we are talking with David in Texas.
[33:59.440 --> 34:05.440]  David, you were asking about whether it's a good idea to file criminal charges.
[34:05.440 --> 34:11.440]  Randy, you were talking about absolutely file criminal charges.
[34:11.440 --> 34:15.440]  Get the Postmaster after him. Go ahead, Randy.
[34:15.440 --> 34:19.440]  Yeah, set him up for more criminal charges.
[34:19.440 --> 34:27.440]  This declaration that they sent me that was signed by the Code Enforcement Officer
[34:27.440 --> 34:32.440]  is in this aggravated territory.
[34:32.440 --> 34:34.440]  I'm sorry, I couldn't understand.
[34:34.440 --> 34:35.440]  I couldn't either.
[34:35.440 --> 34:37.440]  This declaration that they sent me...
[34:37.440 --> 34:43.440]  Can you get closer to the microphone?
[34:43.440 --> 34:47.440]  This declaration that they sent me was a five-statement
[34:47.440 --> 34:54.440]  and the Code Enforcement Officer signed it. Isn't that aggravated perjury?
[34:54.440 --> 35:00.440]  I can't understand enough to be able to address that. They sent you...
[35:00.440 --> 35:04.440]  He said something was signed by the Code Enforcement Officer.
[35:04.440 --> 35:06.440]  I'm not sure what that something was.
[35:06.440 --> 35:08.440]  Something was signed by the Code Enforcement Officer.
[35:08.440 --> 35:11.440]  He said, wasn't that aggravated perjury?
[35:11.440 --> 35:16.440]  It depends on whether or not the document had false statements.
[35:16.440 --> 35:17.440]  Yeah.
[35:17.440 --> 35:19.440]  And material.
[35:19.440 --> 35:21.440]  Yeah.
[35:21.440 --> 35:26.440]  Okay, if they were false material statements and they were false,
[35:26.440 --> 35:30.440]  yes, that's perjury. That's aggravated perjury.
[35:30.440 --> 35:32.440]  So definitely file it.
[35:32.440 --> 35:36.440]  But you have to know when you file criminal complaints,
[35:36.440 --> 35:41.440]  nobody wants to address criminal complaints when it's against public officials.
[35:41.440 --> 35:47.440]  So you wind up having to go after everybody in the process.
[35:47.440 --> 35:51.440]  And it seems like you're not making any headway,
[35:51.440 --> 35:55.440]  but they're not telling you what's going on in the background.
[35:55.440 --> 35:59.440]  If you file against the Code Enforcement Officer
[35:59.440 --> 36:03.440]  and then you file against the Mayor as respondee at superior
[36:03.440 --> 36:09.440]  for training him and teaching him and supporting him in these criminal activities,
[36:09.440 --> 36:14.440]  the Mayor is not going to be a happy camper.
[36:14.440 --> 36:18.440]  His subordinate is getting criminal charges filed against him.
[36:18.440 --> 36:20.440]  He is not going to be happy.
[36:20.440 --> 36:23.440]  At the end of the day, it's all about politics.
[36:23.440 --> 36:27.440]  And when you give it to a magistrate and the magistrate doesn't act on it,
[36:27.440 --> 36:29.440]  then you file against the magistrate.
[36:29.440 --> 36:31.440]  You file criminal charges.
[36:31.440 --> 36:34.440]  You file a professional conduct complaint.
[36:34.440 --> 36:38.440]  And if the magistrate is a lawyer, you file a bargaining against him.
[36:38.440 --> 36:42.440]  And the magistrate is going to have a fit.
[36:42.440 --> 36:45.440]  Or if it's a municipal judge,
[36:45.440 --> 36:50.440]  municipal judges now are almost all lawyers.
[36:50.440 --> 36:56.440]  If it's a court of record, then the municipal judge has to be a lawyer.
[36:56.440 --> 36:58.440]  So you bar grieve him.
[36:58.440 --> 37:00.440]  Oh, that'll make him unhappy.
[37:00.440 --> 37:03.440]  It'll cost him more money because of the bar grievance
[37:03.440 --> 37:07.440]  than he makes being a municipal judge.
[37:07.440 --> 37:10.440]  You can be sure he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer
[37:10.440 --> 37:13.440]  because if he was, he'd be out making the big bucks
[37:13.440 --> 37:18.440]  and wouldn't be down at some municipality grubbing for dollars.
[37:18.440 --> 37:23.440]  So start hammering everybody in the chain.
[37:23.440 --> 37:24.440]  Okay.
[37:24.440 --> 37:26.440]  All right.
[37:26.440 --> 37:28.440]  Can I sue that lawyer then?
[37:28.440 --> 37:33.440]  Would the seller win for the fall separation?
[37:33.440 --> 37:38.440]  The lawyer was part of it. He sent it to me.
[37:38.440 --> 37:42.440]  The lawyer. Which lawyer?
[37:42.440 --> 37:46.440]  Your attorney or the prosecutor on the other side?
[37:46.440 --> 37:51.440]  The opposing lawyer and the lawsuit.
[37:51.440 --> 37:52.440]  Okay.
[37:52.440 --> 37:55.440]  There's too much information we don't have.
[37:55.440 --> 37:57.440]  The lawsuit.
[37:57.440 --> 38:01.440]  The word the means one previously mentioned.
[38:01.440 --> 38:04.440]  What lawsuit are you talking about?
[38:04.440 --> 38:07.440]  After this, this is over.
[38:07.440 --> 38:12.440]  Can I sue that lawyer that's representing the court of court
[38:12.440 --> 38:13.440]  of law, sir?
[38:13.440 --> 38:15.440]  Absolutely.
[38:15.440 --> 38:17.440]  Oh, I can sue him.
[38:17.440 --> 38:20.440]  Yeah, he's going to claim he has immunity.
[38:20.440 --> 38:21.440]  Who cares?
[38:21.440 --> 38:23.440]  Let him claim it.
[38:23.440 --> 38:25.440]  Make him argue it.
[38:25.440 --> 38:29.440]  We've got to hire a lawyer to represent him.
[38:29.440 --> 38:34.440]  Every time the lawyer files a document bar grieving for it.
[38:34.440 --> 38:38.440]  I have the lines right here on this piece of paper.
[38:38.440 --> 38:46.440]  So if I file a lawsuit for federal force, they should take it.
[38:46.440 --> 38:48.440]  Okay.
[38:48.440 --> 38:49.440]  Right.
[38:49.440 --> 38:53.440]  If you file a lawsuit in the federal court, they should take it.
[38:53.440 --> 38:58.440]  They who you're talking about the federal court should take it.
[38:58.440 --> 38:59.440]  Yeah.
[38:59.440 --> 39:00.440]  Yeah.
[39:00.440 --> 39:02.440]  And generally they will.
[39:02.440 --> 39:04.440]  This is called federal.
[39:04.440 --> 39:07.440]  Okay.
[39:07.440 --> 39:10.440]  That's easy enough.
[39:10.440 --> 39:11.440]  Okay.
[39:11.440 --> 39:16.440]  Do I file it with a federal judge or with a federal magistrate?
[39:16.440 --> 39:21.440]  No, you file it with the district clerk, the federal district clerk.
[39:21.440 --> 39:24.440]  Oh, address it to the federal district clerk then.
[39:24.440 --> 39:31.440]  Yeah, the clerk will appoint a judge and the judge will appoint a magistrate.
[39:31.440 --> 39:33.440]  Oh, okay.
[39:33.440 --> 39:35.440]  I'll do that then.
[39:35.440 --> 39:40.440]  I'll type the whole thing up and send it over to federal court now.
[39:40.440 --> 39:43.440]  That'll make him unhappy.
[39:43.440 --> 39:53.440]  You realize, David, if you do that, there's a very good chance that the court and the city will not send you a Christmas.
[39:53.440 --> 39:57.440]  The court will not send you a Christmas card this year.
[39:57.440 --> 39:59.440]  I don't think about it.
[39:59.440 --> 40:02.440]  I don't think about it.
[40:02.440 --> 40:06.440]  Well, do that.
[40:06.440 --> 40:18.440]  And when you force the city to hire a lawyer to represent them in a federal case, they're going to be very, very unhappy.
[40:18.440 --> 40:26.440]  And I suspect by the time you get done, that code enforcement will have orders to stay away from you.
[40:26.440 --> 40:34.440]  People just happen to go by your place and not even think about taking pictures or measuring your grass or doing anything else.
[40:34.440 --> 40:37.440]  Yeah, don't even look in that direction.
[40:37.440 --> 40:43.440]  They won't leave if people don't find fingers.
[40:43.440 --> 40:45.440]  I couldn't understand that.
[40:45.440 --> 40:48.440]  Bye. Bye.
[40:48.440 --> 40:50.440]  Okay. Thank you, David.
[40:50.440 --> 40:53.440]  Now we're going to go to Terry in Missouri.
[40:53.440 --> 41:01.440]  Terry, what do you have for us today?
[41:01.440 --> 41:08.440]  I think maybe we put Terry to sleep.
[41:08.440 --> 41:10.440]  Okay.
[41:10.440 --> 41:19.440]  We've talked to Terry before and I know his issue is probably about mortgage.
[41:19.440 --> 41:27.440]  But if we don't have him, okay, then we still have an empty board right now.
[41:27.440 --> 41:36.440]  So if you have a question or comment, give us a call or call in number 512-646-1984.
[41:36.440 --> 41:44.440]  And we've had a couple of callers call in about procedures.
[41:44.440 --> 41:57.440]  And since we don't have any callers, I would like to, this is a good time to go back to the due process and how it works and how we use the system against public officials.
[41:57.440 --> 42:06.440]  I'm in the process of setting up my tool for closures.
[42:06.440 --> 42:18.440]  And I'll kind of explain how we're doing that so you get a good understanding of how you can begin to take these people on.
[42:18.440 --> 42:27.440]  It's not like you tend to think it is. It's not like what they teach you in high school.
[42:27.440 --> 42:38.440]  Remember the Simon and Garfunkel song, after all the crap I've learned in high school, it's a wonder I can think at all.
[42:38.440 --> 42:46.440]  Well, what they teach you in high school is not how it works out here in the real world.
[42:46.440 --> 42:51.440]  It's not about the law. You'll never win your case simply because you have the law and the facts on your side.
[42:51.440 --> 42:56.440]  And that's hard for most people to understand. And I haven't went through this for quite a while.
[42:56.440 --> 43:01.440]  So when we come back, oh, we got, oh, this is Ted from Utah.
[43:01.440 --> 43:04.440]  Oh, and Terry has called back.
[43:04.440 --> 43:05.440]  Oh, OK.
[43:05.440 --> 43:09.440]  I'll try him again. Well, we are just about to go to sponsors, but maybe see if we got him.
[43:09.440 --> 43:11.440]  Terry, are you there?
[43:11.440 --> 43:13.440]  I'm here, guys.
[43:13.440 --> 43:21.440]  OK, hang on. We're about to go to our sponsors and we will pick you up when we come back on the other side.
[43:21.440 --> 43:25.440]  Are you going to have a question about foreclosure?
[43:25.440 --> 43:31.440]  No, it's about fair credit and about a judge you got caught forging documents.
[43:31.440 --> 43:34.440]  Oh, wonderful. This is going to be fun.
[43:34.440 --> 43:43.440]  OK, hang on. Randy Calton. We're at fountain. We're at our radio, our call-in number, 512-646-1984.
[43:43.440 --> 43:48.440]  We have a couple empty slots on the board and we've got another hour and 15 minutes.
[43:48.440 --> 43:53.440]  So we can probably use a couple more callers if we move quickly.
[43:53.440 --> 44:00.440]  We'll be right back.
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[46:24.440 --> 46:30.440]  Always, I must be careful what I'm wishing for.
[46:30.440 --> 46:35.440]  When I'm hungry, I like to know just what I'm wishing for.
[46:35.440 --> 46:41.440]  I ain't asking for much, I ain't tryna be no glutton.
[46:41.440 --> 46:47.040]  I'm just here makin' my livin' pushin' buttons
[46:47.040 --> 46:51.680]  I give my message out to anyone and shoutin'
[46:51.680 --> 46:55.520]  All right, we are back to the rule of law radio
[46:55.520 --> 47:02.320]  Friday the 21st of August 2020 and we are speaking with
[47:02.320 --> 47:10.160]  Terry in Missouri. Terry, sounds like you have an exciting story. Go for it.
[47:10.160 --> 47:15.360]  Top off, man. I've been, um, this was filed in 2015. It took the Michael Mears
[47:15.360 --> 47:20.000]  course, previously run one, I don't know, about
[47:20.000 --> 47:23.760]  two or three cases under debt collection and other issues.
[47:23.760 --> 47:27.280]  And then I bought his case and I went from there
[47:27.280 --> 47:31.280]  and I filed a case under fair credit in federal court
[47:31.280 --> 47:35.120]  Springfield, Missouri, the Western District.
[47:35.120 --> 47:41.840]  And, um, you're gonna have to bear with me, man. This was filed in 2015.
[47:41.840 --> 47:49.040]  Now, the first judge in Randy this might seek your curiosity.
[47:49.040 --> 47:53.760]  The last time I probably spoke with you is maybe a year ago and prior to that
[47:53.760 --> 47:58.480]  I was nearly in a coma after this case and I came out of it.
[47:58.480 --> 48:03.440]  I laid in a bed for over three years. These people were hoping I would die not
[48:03.440 --> 48:08.400]  exposed in this crap. The judge in the case, Richard Dore,
[48:08.400 --> 48:13.040]  issued the case under Terry D. Owens versus Central Bank.
[48:13.040 --> 48:22.880]  Charter number capital K002095ETAL. That's the way it's on
[48:22.880 --> 48:28.480]  pacer. The judge died in the case very mysteriously,
[48:28.480 --> 48:33.680]  in my opinion he did. It was reassigned through a transfer order to
[48:33.680 --> 48:39.520]  another judge, Judge Harpool. About a month went by.
[48:39.520 --> 48:43.520]  All the discovery was just getting started and he had
[48:43.520 --> 48:48.800]  changed the caption of the complaint and all the orders
[48:48.800 --> 48:53.440]  from Terry D. Owens with that charter number I told you about
[48:53.440 --> 49:00.000]  to Terry D. Owens versus Central Trust Bank. There was never a stipulation,
[49:00.000 --> 49:05.040]  there was never an agreement and on the caption of the complaint there were
[49:05.040 --> 49:10.960]  several co-defendants and so the first judge obviously
[49:10.960 --> 49:16.480]  elected to go with the first one I listed. Now, that name, I'm going to kind of
[49:16.480 --> 49:20.960]  speed it up here a bit, that name that he put on the caption of the complaint
[49:20.960 --> 49:26.640]  is a known fictitious entity, never been chartered anywhere in a state of
[49:26.640 --> 49:32.320]  Missouri. So, fast forward. The two first
[49:32.320 --> 49:36.320]  complaints I filed were not real well, they beat me.
[49:36.320 --> 49:40.240]  The actual second judge that was assigned to the case
[49:40.240 --> 49:44.080]  in my opinion at that point was incredibly fair with me
[49:44.080 --> 49:48.000]  and allowed me to file a second amended complaint
[49:48.000 --> 49:53.440]  and they issued an order, whoever read it
[49:53.440 --> 49:59.840]  saw about 260 pages of exhibits. The very first page,
[49:59.840 --> 50:04.720]  I'm sorry, the very first exhibit that was attached to that complaint
[50:04.720 --> 50:10.720]  was a response letter from Casey Clark, an attorney for the Secretary of State
[50:10.720 --> 50:16.160]  in response to a Missouri Open Records request that I did
[50:16.160 --> 50:21.200]  to her and she answered that really, really well.
[50:21.200 --> 50:28.160]  She exposed an awful lot. So, after all that and then all the other
[50:28.160 --> 50:33.600]  exhibits that were attached, most of which was four continuous years
[50:33.600 --> 50:38.480]  of disputing directly through and I did it properly
[50:38.480 --> 50:44.800]  with TransUnion Equifax and Experian, that was all done really well
[50:44.800 --> 50:48.720]  and I had letters from the people that run this
[50:48.720 --> 50:53.520]  OLED bank in Missouri that told me to leave them alone but they
[50:53.520 --> 50:58.480]  acknowledged that they received all of the dispute letters
[50:58.480 --> 51:05.520]  which triggered their duty. So, either this judge or his law clerk
[51:05.520 --> 51:09.280]  issued an order because the other side went for a 12b6
[51:09.280 --> 51:15.840]  which they always do and I defeated that and this order came back and said
[51:15.840 --> 51:20.160]  plaintiff, Jerry D. Owens, sufficiently
[51:20.160 --> 51:23.920]  stated a claim under the Summary Judgment Judgment
[51:23.920 --> 51:30.880]  Standard under 15 USC 1681 S through 2b against all bank
[51:30.880 --> 51:36.560]  defendants. Done really well. The order was fine.
[51:36.560 --> 51:40.320]  Some of the issues I didn't lay in there properly, a little out of order, he knocked
[51:40.320 --> 51:44.000]  them out. No problem. I went and filed Summary Judgment
[51:44.000 --> 51:49.120]  with an affidavit, reattached all the exhibits, everything they discussed.
[51:49.120 --> 51:54.960]  The opposing side filed their, you know, cross appeal or cross motion for
[51:54.960 --> 51:59.360]  Summary Judgment and that lady lied through her teeth.
[51:59.360 --> 52:04.000]  She also filed eight affidavits. They're all falsified.
[52:04.000 --> 52:08.400]  Keep in mind, what I just shared with you, Central Trust Bank
[52:08.400 --> 52:14.160]  is a non-existent, non-entity. Now, I'm going to have to hit on exhibit
[52:14.160 --> 52:19.520]  number one. This has been evaded for almost five and a half years.
[52:19.520 --> 52:23.520]  That letter that came back from Casey Clark and it's going to blow everybody's
[52:23.520 --> 52:28.800]  doors off. Listen to this in America. That name, Central Trust Bank, is
[52:28.800 --> 52:32.640]  attached to probably three million credit card
[52:32.640 --> 52:38.000]  applications and is on the reverse side of over three million, probably
[52:38.000 --> 52:44.400]  more than that, consumer credit card app or the actual credit card.
[52:44.400 --> 52:49.760]  Now, in addition to her acknowledging that in an open records request,
[52:49.760 --> 52:53.360]  she also stated that that name imitates
[52:53.360 --> 52:56.800]  another entity that is chartered in Missouri
[52:56.800 --> 53:00.240]  by the name of the Central Trust Bank with four
[53:00.240 --> 53:06.400]  uppercase letters. She went on to state that the other co-defendants that I
[53:06.400 --> 53:11.200]  sued with the orders that I successfully had a claim on
[53:11.200 --> 53:16.960]  was outfits known as Central Bank and another outfit known as Boone County
[53:16.960 --> 53:20.960]  National Bank. Now, there's three different entities
[53:20.960 --> 53:25.040]  or, I'm sorry, secured parties. They're not entities
[53:25.040 --> 53:30.400]  which are all comprised of including Boone County National Bank
[53:30.400 --> 53:34.320]  of nothing more than over a thousand individual
[53:34.320 --> 53:42.480]  secured parties. They're not entities. So basically, I just told you
[53:42.480 --> 53:45.760]  that we have a fictitious name on credit card,
[53:45.760 --> 53:51.360]  credit card applications and this judge
[53:51.360 --> 53:55.120]  started to become aware of what I was discovering
[53:55.120 --> 53:58.160]  and I was getting tired of the fact that that order
[53:58.160 --> 54:02.000]  and all of the motions and all the affidavits that were filed by this
[54:02.000 --> 54:05.440]  attorney were all under the heading of a
[54:05.440 --> 54:09.600]  fictitious entity. I moved for a simple leave
[54:09.600 --> 54:13.280]  from the court. I notified the opposing council by
[54:13.280 --> 54:18.000]  certified mail under Rule 15A and I think Rule 16B
[54:18.000 --> 54:23.120]  had all the proper case law in there and cited in their exhibit one
[54:23.120 --> 54:26.800]  and that we had to do an investigation.
[54:26.800 --> 54:30.480]  Now, as you know, the opposing side had to oppose it.
[54:30.480 --> 54:33.680]  She had to come back and show that was an entity.
[54:33.680 --> 54:36.960]  That was impossible. The judge, on the other hand,
[54:36.960 --> 54:41.600]  had to do an investigation. None of that happened
[54:41.600 --> 54:44.640]  and the whole complexion of the case changed
[54:44.640 --> 54:52.480]  from that moment on and that judge knew this lady had done all these things
[54:52.480 --> 54:55.360]  falsified to records, aggravated perjury,
[54:55.360 --> 54:59.920]  perjury, falsified to records, obstructing justice.
[54:59.920 --> 55:05.680]  This judge issued an order for an oral argument which I had people there
[55:05.680 --> 55:10.320]  with me and I paid for a transcribe. He aided and
[55:10.320 --> 55:15.760]  abetted and allowed this lawyer to perjure the record.
[55:15.760 --> 55:22.240]  He helped her do it. Two weeks later, he issues an order, contradicts
[55:22.240 --> 55:25.600]  everything that was in the previous order, falsifies
[55:25.600 --> 55:31.440]  all of the facts, issues that order under a fictitious name
[55:31.440 --> 55:35.120]  and in that same order he actually removed
[55:35.120 --> 55:39.280]  one of the co-defendants that I had a claim on
[55:39.280 --> 55:44.400]  and then on the judgment that was issued the next day,
[55:44.400 --> 55:48.000]  it was ordered from him through the two court clerks
[55:48.000 --> 55:52.160]  under the same heading which was Terry D. Owen
[55:52.160 --> 55:55.840]  versus Central Bank with that same charter number
[55:55.840 --> 56:00.640]  even though that defendant was previously removed the day before
[56:00.640 --> 56:03.920]  and it says I have a claim against that guy,
[56:03.920 --> 56:08.320]  against that defendant and against the fictitious entity.
[56:08.320 --> 56:12.400]  However, the order the day before removed
[56:12.400 --> 56:18.640]  that guy, I'm sorry that co-defendant and so obviously the order was issued
[56:18.640 --> 56:23.200]  under a fictitious name and the judgment was issued under a
[56:23.200 --> 56:26.880]  party that one day prior was removed as a
[56:26.880 --> 56:31.040]  the co-defendant and then they stuck on there the fictitious name
[56:31.040 --> 56:35.920]  and tell me if that order and that judgment ain't void.
[56:35.920 --> 56:41.920]  Okay, let me make sure I have this correct.
[56:41.920 --> 56:48.880]  The order included a party that had been removed from the case.
[56:48.880 --> 56:49.920]  Yeah.
[56:49.920 --> 56:55.520]  Okay, you fed us all with a fire hose and I'm trying to
[56:55.520 --> 56:59.280]  you know you did actually deliver this pretty well
[56:59.280 --> 57:03.520]  it's just that there's so much information here that it's hard to
[57:03.520 --> 57:08.480]  put it all in place in one pass. Right, I've been dealing with this every day I
[57:08.480 --> 57:11.760]  know it's far worse than backwards and you can tell.
[57:11.760 --> 57:16.080]  And that's the difficult part when you're trying to
[57:16.080 --> 57:20.320]  explain what's going on to people who don't know anything about it
[57:20.320 --> 57:23.760]  is because it's so you're so familiar with it
[57:23.760 --> 57:28.320]  sometimes you lose reference or index you lose the connections
[57:28.320 --> 57:31.680]  of how they're all put together and even if you don't you actually presented
[57:31.680 --> 57:34.560]  that pretty well. There's so much information here it's
[57:34.560 --> 57:39.520]  hard to put together in one pass. Well, I need to interrupt you and interject
[57:39.520 --> 57:44.800]  a few things. That first order that stated I sufficiently
[57:44.800 --> 57:50.800]  stated the claim was against over 1000 co-defendants.
[57:50.800 --> 57:55.760]  In my credit file you got to know this man and I'm sorry I'm kind of
[57:55.760 --> 57:59.600]  I'm trying to do it. Wait a minute you just gave me a headache
[57:59.600 --> 58:06.160]  1000 co-defendants? Yeah. Oh this is interesting.
[58:06.160 --> 58:10.240]  Yeah, yeah. Okay we're about to go to break.
[58:10.240 --> 58:15.280]  I'll hold. Think about this when you come back.
[58:15.280 --> 58:19.920]  Think about the questions I have I don't know how to put all this together yet
[58:19.920 --> 58:23.600]  since you went through all of these facts with us
[58:23.600 --> 58:26.960]  when we come back from the on the other side can you
[58:26.960 --> 58:31.840]  reiterate a quick synopsis. Yeah. Just the high points and stitch all this
[58:31.840 --> 58:34.640]  together. That should help everybody get all of
[58:34.640 --> 58:38.560]  this organized so we can better understand what's going on. Hang on.
[58:38.560 --> 58:41.680]  Randy Calhoun, Brett Fountain, Louis Lauderdale Radio.
[58:41.680 --> 58:49.120]  I'll call it number 512-646-1984. We'll be right back.
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[01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:51.440]  Today in history the year 1916 the preparedness day bombing a time suitcase
[01:00:51.440 --> 01:00:55.760]  bomb was detonated on Market Street in San Francisco during the World War I
[01:00:55.760 --> 01:01:00.240]  preparedness day parade killing 10 and entering 40 today in history.
[01:01:04.480 --> 01:01:09.040]  And recent news since Governor Greg Abbott signed House Bill 1325 legalizing
[01:01:09.040 --> 01:01:13.120]  HEPA into taxes law back in June county prosecutors around the state including
[01:01:13.120 --> 01:01:16.480]  Houston, Austin, and San Antonio have been dropping marijuana possession
[01:01:16.480 --> 01:01:20.160]  charges and even refusing to file new ones since they are stipulating that they do
[01:01:20.160 --> 01:01:24.560]  not have the time or the laboratory equipment to test the herb for THC.
[01:01:24.560 --> 01:01:28.000]  Margaret Moore, the Travis County District Attorney announced earlier this
[01:01:28.000 --> 01:01:31.760]  month that she was dismissing 32 felony possession and delivery of marijuana
[01:01:31.760 --> 01:01:35.760]  cases because of the law. Mr. Abbott and other state officials including
[01:01:35.760 --> 01:01:38.960]  the Attorney General stipulated in a letter to county district attorneys
[01:01:38.960 --> 01:01:43.040]  back on Thursday that marijuana has not been decriminalized in Texas and that
[01:01:43.040 --> 01:01:48.000]  these actions demonstrate a misunderstanding of how HB 1325 works
[01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:51.040]  as well as other cities too like the District Attorney
[01:01:51.040 --> 01:01:56.560]  in El Paso Kyma Esparza, a Democrat who also stated earlier this month that the
[01:01:56.560 --> 01:02:00.800]  law quote will not have an effect on the prosecution of marijuana cases in El
[01:02:00.800 --> 01:02:03.360]  Paso. However the issue was succinctly
[01:02:03.360 --> 01:02:06.640]  summarized by Mr. Brandon Ball an assistant public defender
[01:02:06.640 --> 01:02:10.480]  in Harris County who stated that quote the law is constantly changing on what
[01:02:10.480 --> 01:02:13.200]  makes something illegal based on its chemical makeup.
[01:02:13.200 --> 01:02:16.960]  It's important that if someone is charged with something the test matches
[01:02:16.960 --> 01:02:22.400]  what they're charged with.
[01:02:22.400 --> 01:02:26.240]  A paper by Tulane University identified a five and a half inch American
[01:02:26.240 --> 01:02:28.800]  pocket shark as the first of its kind in the
[01:02:28.800 --> 01:02:31.920]  Gulf of Mexico. The specimen being only the second
[01:02:31.920 --> 01:02:36.160]  pocket shark ever captured or recorded with the other one being found way
[01:02:36.160 --> 01:02:40.720]  back in 1979 in the East Pacific Ocean. According to the university paper the
[01:02:40.720 --> 01:02:44.160]  shark secretes a luminous fluid from a gland near its
[01:02:44.160 --> 01:02:48.880]  front fins for the purposes hypothesized to lure and prey
[01:02:48.880 --> 01:03:14.880]  who may be drawn into the glow.
[01:03:18.880 --> 01:03:48.800]  Okay, we are
[01:03:48.800 --> 01:03:54.720]  back. Randy Kelton, Brett Bouton, Rue LaRio and we're talking to Terry in Missouri
[01:03:54.720 --> 01:04:00.080]  and Terry of Brett and I talked about this on the break.
[01:04:00.080 --> 01:04:03.840]  You gave a real good delivery. Thank you.
[01:04:03.840 --> 01:04:08.720]  And that's that don't happen too often. You you put everything in place and we
[01:04:08.720 --> 01:04:12.960]  were able to follow but there's so much information
[01:04:12.960 --> 01:04:20.080]  that now now I need a synopsis so I can reconnect to what you told us
[01:04:20.080 --> 01:04:22.800]  and get this thing in better perspective.
[01:04:22.800 --> 01:04:26.720]  Right, well I'm going to do that for you before I do that. I'm going to say man I
[01:04:26.720 --> 01:04:29.680]  appreciate you guys being tough grinders.
[01:04:29.680 --> 01:04:33.200]  All of this which I'm about to give you a synopsis on.
[01:04:33.200 --> 01:04:36.720]  I already showed this to Richard Karnforth. He couldn't believe it.
[01:04:36.720 --> 01:04:40.640]  Man invited me in his home. We went through a lot of the documents
[01:04:40.640 --> 01:04:43.920]  blew his doors off with what these guys are doing.
[01:04:43.920 --> 01:04:50.160]  Absolutely blew his doors off. So I need to contact Richard Karnforth.
[01:04:50.160 --> 01:04:53.920]  Pardon me? I said I need to talk to Richard Karnforth.
[01:04:53.920 --> 01:04:58.560]  I spoke to him several years ago but you know I've been doing this a long time.
[01:04:58.560 --> 01:05:02.240]  Richard Karnforth has been doing this a long time and both of us
[01:05:02.240 --> 01:05:05.360]  have had to deal with Patriot mythology.
[01:05:05.360 --> 01:05:12.720]  Oh yeah, oh yeah, you all know. I don't get much Patriot mythology anymore
[01:05:12.720 --> 01:05:18.560]  and Richard Karnforth has been one that's been stable.
[01:05:18.560 --> 01:05:25.360]  He's been an incredible asset and I am remiss for not seeing if I
[01:05:25.360 --> 01:05:29.600]  can't get him on my show. Pardon me?
[01:05:29.600 --> 01:05:35.440]  I said I have been remiss in not trying to get him on the show.
[01:05:35.440 --> 01:05:41.200]  Well, he reviewed a great deal of what I'm going to share with you.
[01:05:41.200 --> 01:05:46.000]  Okay, the synopsis. In 2007 I was an average Joe.
[01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:51.360]  I didn't know anything about this stuff. I simply applied for what I thought was
[01:05:51.360 --> 01:05:56.480]  a legitimate consumer credit card application for a legitimate
[01:05:56.480 --> 01:06:01.840]  credit card at Boone County National Bank in Booneville, Missouri.
[01:06:01.840 --> 01:06:06.080]  On the heading of the, at the very top of the application,
[01:06:06.080 --> 01:06:10.160]  Boone County National Bank is an incredibly big, bold font
[01:06:10.160 --> 01:06:13.440]  and that was the company I thought that it issued the credit.
[01:06:13.440 --> 01:06:18.880]  It was the issuing bank. Well, I never paid any attention to the application.
[01:06:18.880 --> 01:06:25.120]  Like I said, it's just an average moron just maybe above the BS level.
[01:06:25.120 --> 01:06:29.520]  So, nevertheless, I got the credit card. It sat in my home. It got stolen.
[01:06:29.520 --> 01:06:34.080]  Somebody used it. I never knew it. I was out of the country in Mexico trying to
[01:06:34.080 --> 01:06:39.680]  save my butt on incredibly serious health issues. I won that battle.
[01:06:39.680 --> 01:06:45.040]  Somebody stole the card. I never knew it and that affected my credit.
[01:06:45.040 --> 01:06:49.200]  That ended up with foreclosure on my home.
[01:06:49.200 --> 01:06:52.960]  I don't want to go into that at the moment. It gets off the base here.
[01:06:52.960 --> 01:06:59.440]  So, I started doing open dispute letters and getting my credit files.
[01:06:59.440 --> 01:07:03.760]  I had never heard of these entities which I thought was legitimate companies
[01:07:03.760 --> 01:07:08.880]  by the name of Central Trust Bank and Central Bank that was in my
[01:07:08.880 --> 01:07:13.040]  TransUnion Equifax and Experian Credit Files.
[01:07:13.040 --> 01:07:16.160]  Because I always thought Boone County National Bank was
[01:07:16.160 --> 01:07:21.120]  the outfit that legitimately issued the credit. It wasn't.
[01:07:21.120 --> 01:07:24.160]  When I finally got the credit card application
[01:07:24.160 --> 01:07:28.800]  through a little bit of discovery that I did,
[01:07:28.800 --> 01:07:35.200]  I noticed that in a small font you can barely see that name. It says issuing
[01:07:35.200 --> 01:07:41.200]  banks. Well, before I got that, Casey Clark, the
[01:07:41.200 --> 01:07:44.400]  lady for the Secretary of State, blew this whole thing
[01:07:44.400 --> 01:07:49.520]  wide open. She's no longer there. She's been run off her job.
[01:07:49.520 --> 01:07:56.320]  She came back with two pages. She stated that Central Trust Bank is not an entity
[01:07:56.320 --> 01:08:00.640]  and it also imitates the legitimate entity that has four
[01:08:00.640 --> 01:08:05.520]  upper capitalized words by the name of the Central Trust Bank.
[01:08:05.520 --> 01:08:10.400]  Then Boone County National Bank is not an entity either.
[01:08:10.400 --> 01:08:16.880]  It's comprised of 500 plus individual men and women as secure parties.
[01:08:16.880 --> 01:08:23.600]  Now, Central Bank has three filings. Three different numbers attached to that
[01:08:23.600 --> 01:08:29.360]  and they are all comprised of 500 plus individuals secured parties.
[01:08:29.360 --> 01:08:33.200]  None of those names, Central Bank or Boone County National Bank,
[01:08:33.200 --> 01:08:37.520]  has ever been chartered in Missouri as a legitimate bank.
[01:08:37.520 --> 01:08:44.160]  Never. Never. Wow. So that should mean that they don't have authority to do
[01:08:44.160 --> 01:08:48.000]  business in Missouri. You got it.
[01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:52.320]  None whatsoever. Richard Karnforth and I looked at that and we
[01:08:52.320 --> 01:08:57.760]  could not believe what these guys are doing. So now let me cut to the quick.
[01:08:57.760 --> 01:09:05.680]  In this case, I had 260 pages of exhibits. That first one I told you about.
[01:09:05.680 --> 01:09:12.480]  Most of the rest were credit files that I sent all my dispute letters through.
[01:09:12.480 --> 01:09:16.160]  I did that properly and they followed them
[01:09:16.160 --> 01:09:22.880]  onto bank card services where this great big dumb Boone
[01:09:22.880 --> 01:09:29.600]  by the name of Al Stonem is the Senior Vice President and Bank Card Director.
[01:09:29.600 --> 01:09:35.200]  I was the only guy that continued to harass them about the fact
[01:09:35.200 --> 01:09:38.160]  that I'm going to continue to dispute with you guys
[01:09:38.160 --> 01:09:43.440]  if you don't remove this because I told you that my credit card was stolen
[01:09:43.440 --> 01:09:46.880]  and they ignored me so he wrote me a letter back
[01:09:46.880 --> 01:09:50.480]  and this is what he basically said. Buzz off.
[01:09:50.480 --> 01:09:54.800]  We got your stuff. I got all your letters and he sent them back to me
[01:09:54.800 --> 01:09:58.320]  and then he made the most damaging statement of all.
[01:09:58.320 --> 01:10:03.840]  That that fictitious entity, Central Trust Bank, issues credit cards for all of
[01:10:03.840 --> 01:10:07.120]  our affiliate member banks and he hung himself.
[01:10:07.120 --> 01:10:10.960]  He's no longer there. He left the chicken coop.
[01:10:10.960 --> 01:10:16.160]  Now we have in Missouri and getting into this case
[01:10:16.160 --> 01:10:20.400]  that judge was faced with a major league decision
[01:10:20.400 --> 01:10:24.240]  when I filed that motion for leave to a man which was done
[01:10:24.240 --> 01:10:30.640]  absolutely fine. The opposing lawyer, she couldn't oppose it.
[01:10:30.640 --> 01:10:34.240]  She had to come up with the fact that that company had
[01:10:34.240 --> 01:10:38.560]  obviously changed its name and it never did.
[01:10:38.560 --> 01:10:44.160]  And so the judge obviously had an ex parte meeting with this lawyer
[01:10:44.160 --> 01:10:48.240]  and some very, very powerful influential people in Missouri
[01:10:48.240 --> 01:10:52.160]  that says you're going to railroad this dude and he did.
[01:10:52.160 --> 01:10:55.520]  Within about two weeks after that oral argument
[01:10:55.520 --> 01:11:01.200]  and actually Randy and your protege there prior to that
[01:11:01.200 --> 01:11:06.080]  he issues an order closing all discovery. He issues another order
[01:11:06.080 --> 01:11:10.160]  and he closes off a subpoena, quashes a subpoena
[01:11:10.160 --> 01:11:13.280]  that was going to the Missouri Division of Finance
[01:11:13.280 --> 01:11:16.880]  to find out whether or not his Central Trust Bank
[01:11:16.880 --> 01:11:19.840]  was ever chartered and that would have to mean that
[01:11:19.840 --> 01:11:25.360]  these Central Trust Bank had absolutely filed to amend its corporate
[01:11:25.360 --> 01:11:29.600]  filings. That never happened. Now in addition to that
[01:11:29.600 --> 01:11:34.880]  he's faced with all this and he knows that that
[01:11:34.880 --> 01:11:38.640]  after the first judge dies he takes over
[01:11:38.640 --> 01:11:42.240]  and within about three orders that are filed
[01:11:42.240 --> 01:11:47.120]  he, without stipulation of the parties, he on his own recognizance
[01:11:47.120 --> 01:11:50.960]  changes the caption of the complaint from Terry DeOwen
[01:11:50.960 --> 01:11:54.400]  versus Central Bank with that long charter number.
[01:11:54.400 --> 01:11:58.400]  He takes that off and he puts that fictitious name on there
[01:11:58.400 --> 01:12:03.760]  and says, Central Trust Bank, E-T-A-L. Now he already knows the condition.
[01:12:03.760 --> 01:12:08.320]  So he's caught, the lawyer's caught, everybody's caught.
[01:12:08.320 --> 01:12:14.480]  They're done and so he obstructs justice. He does all this crap. He falsifies
[01:12:14.480 --> 01:12:19.760]  all the facts. He already knows that the lawyer did not attend mediation.
[01:12:19.760 --> 01:12:24.880]  He knew that. The map director told him so in a little statement
[01:12:24.880 --> 01:12:30.480]  and I told him so and all this crap meant nothing. They had to get rid of me.
[01:12:30.480 --> 01:12:35.920]  We further did an investigation. There's over 3,000
[01:12:35.920 --> 01:12:40.320]  false credit card claims filed in Missouri County
[01:12:40.320 --> 01:12:44.720]  Associate Circuit Court and there's something big that's been going on in
[01:12:44.720 --> 01:12:50.080]  this state for 30 years, man. Okay? So
[01:12:50.080 --> 01:12:55.040]  what's he do? He issues an order that contradicts everything,
[01:12:55.040 --> 01:12:59.920]  falsifies all the facts with that fictitious name
[01:12:59.920 --> 01:13:04.480]  and then the day after, of course, he instructs the two court clerks
[01:13:04.480 --> 01:13:08.880]  after he removes that defendant, Central Bank, with that
[01:13:08.880 --> 01:13:14.320]  charter number on it and he tells the stupid court clerk to put it
[01:13:14.320 --> 01:13:18.160]  right back on the judgment along with the fictitious entity
[01:13:18.160 --> 01:13:23.760]  and it says, Terry DeOwen's plaintiff sufficiently stated the claim
[01:13:23.760 --> 01:13:29.440]  against the guy we just removed and a fake name of fictitious entity
[01:13:29.440 --> 01:13:37.280]  under 15 USC 1681 S through 2B. Dumber dog crap.
[01:13:37.280 --> 01:13:42.320]  That's what they did. That's all on pager, man. It's Terry DeOwen
[01:13:42.320 --> 01:13:45.680]  versus Central Bank, charter number capital K
[01:13:45.680 --> 01:13:51.280]  00002095, E-T-A-L. It's on pager. You can read it right now.
[01:13:51.280 --> 01:13:54.880]  I got half of the crap up on the screen right now.
[01:13:54.880 --> 01:14:04.800]  Okay. Okay, so what is your remedy? A lot of things have gone wrong. A lot of
[01:14:04.800 --> 01:14:12.240]  the judges acted improperly. How do you bring the judge to task?
[01:14:12.240 --> 01:14:21.280]  Well, I want to know, did he himself, he knew that that was a fictitious name
[01:14:21.280 --> 01:14:25.760]  and he put it on all the orders that the attorney put it on all her
[01:14:25.760 --> 01:14:32.080]  documents and on eight affidavits which were all falsified
[01:14:32.080 --> 01:14:36.160]  and he never did a thing about it. He was covering it all up for her.
[01:14:36.160 --> 01:14:42.880]  Okay. What is the condition of the case at the moment? Okay.
[01:14:42.880 --> 01:14:48.960]  With Richard Kelp, I filed a motion to vacate
[01:14:48.960 --> 01:14:56.080]  under rule 60B4 and 60D3 for fraud on the court
[01:14:56.080 --> 01:15:02.480]  due process violations.
[01:15:02.480 --> 01:15:09.440]  Oh my god, let me think. Equal protection. Those were all violated
[01:15:09.440 --> 01:15:13.920]  and the fact that I inquired with the appellate court
[01:15:13.920 --> 01:15:20.400]  if they had jurisdiction or not because there was no final order and there was
[01:15:20.400 --> 01:15:24.720]  no final judgment and they cannot certify to the
[01:15:24.720 --> 01:15:28.800]  upper court that there was a legitimate
[01:15:28.800 --> 01:15:33.360]  lawfully ordered judgment and order and you realize that
[01:15:33.360 --> 01:15:40.880]  and so I did file for an appeal. Wait, wait, wait. Did you
[01:15:40.880 --> 01:15:48.160]  file a petition for Ritamandamus asking the court of appeals to order
[01:15:48.160 --> 01:15:51.600]  the lower court to issue a proper judgment?
[01:15:51.600 --> 01:15:57.600]  No, I did not. Well, I would like you to take the phone that you're using
[01:15:57.600 --> 01:16:01.200]  and beat yourself around the eyes and the ears.
[01:16:01.200 --> 01:16:05.360]  Well, I had inquired about that and I'll let that go.
[01:16:05.360 --> 01:16:12.320]  Okay. Anytime the judge issues anything that that doesn't look right
[01:16:12.320 --> 01:16:16.320]  you can go to the court of appeals and ask for a mandamus.
[01:16:16.320 --> 01:16:21.920]  Now you're not likely to win the mandamus and that's not the point.
[01:16:21.920 --> 01:16:27.760]  The point is to get it on the record. Yeah. Do you have a
[01:16:27.760 --> 01:16:36.080]  have you sent anything asking the judge to provide any financial records?
[01:16:36.080 --> 01:16:40.080]  Yes, and I did a full finding in fact in conclusion of law
[01:16:40.080 --> 01:16:45.040]  and he never answered. Well, I know one of them said I have a motion
[01:16:45.040 --> 01:16:52.720]  that asked the court to provide financial information about his
[01:16:52.720 --> 01:16:57.520]  investments and his financial dealings about the judge himself.
[01:16:57.520 --> 01:17:00.160]  But we can talk more about that when we come.
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[01:20:06.400 --> 01:20:14.960]  Okay we are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain,
[01:20:14.960 --> 01:20:18.800]  Root of Law Radio and we're talking to Terry in Missouri.
[01:20:18.800 --> 01:20:22.480]  On the break Brett and I were talking about
[01:20:22.480 --> 01:20:29.280]  secured parties as opposed to a legal entity.
[01:20:29.280 --> 01:20:35.680]  Because you had mentioned they were you were contracting a secured
[01:20:35.680 --> 01:20:39.280]  party versus entity and I don't know if I know the difference and
[01:20:39.280 --> 01:20:42.480]  maybe you could. Yeah well a secured party is not an entity.
[01:20:42.480 --> 01:20:46.480]  They can't issue credit. They can't they're they're not. Okay hold on hold on.
[01:20:46.480 --> 01:20:51.600]  What when you say entity what does that mean?
[01:20:51.600 --> 01:20:55.440]  Something chartered by a state.
[01:20:57.040 --> 01:21:01.840]  Okay so that. I mean it's like a fiction.
[01:21:01.840 --> 01:21:06.080]  A real fictional legal entity.
[01:21:06.080 --> 01:21:13.040]  All they are is investors man. How is a secured party different than
[01:21:13.040 --> 01:21:17.120]  a legal fiction?
[01:21:17.520 --> 01:21:21.360]  Um that's a good question. I'm not quite sure
[01:21:21.360 --> 01:21:28.320]  how to answer that. Okay and when you were speaking you were speaking to the
[01:21:28.320 --> 01:21:34.640]  fact that there was a legal entity
[01:21:34.640 --> 01:21:40.800]  that presented itself as if it were a legal entity but in fact
[01:21:40.800 --> 01:21:44.560]  it was merely a group of secured parties.
[01:21:44.560 --> 01:21:49.680]  That's the part I didn't understand. Right in Missouri we have an outfit
[01:21:49.680 --> 01:21:55.520]  called that's grown overnight called Central Bank.
[01:21:55.520 --> 01:22:02.400]  It's simply comprised of through it's uh maybe uh it's holding company
[01:22:02.400 --> 01:22:06.080]  but it's made up of that name is not an entity.
[01:22:06.080 --> 01:22:11.440]  Okay does this entity have a charter of some sort?
[01:22:11.440 --> 01:22:16.000]  Are they registered with the state of Missouri to do business in Missouri?
[01:22:16.000 --> 01:22:23.280]  No no it does not. Then does this entity as far as Missouri
[01:22:23.280 --> 01:22:28.240]  lies concern doesn't exist? That is absolutely correct because that
[01:22:28.240 --> 01:22:32.960]  comes under chapter 362. We wrote them letters.
[01:22:32.960 --> 01:22:38.560]  They've evaded it. We've been in their office. They threw us out.
[01:22:38.560 --> 01:22:42.720]  In their office they threw us out. I'm going to have to tell you I hate
[01:22:42.720 --> 01:22:46.400]  pronouns. Yeah I do excuse me. I was in the
[01:22:46.400 --> 01:22:51.200]  Missouri Division of Finance uh Rotunda area trying to get
[01:22:51.200 --> 01:22:55.360]  in the actual office to talk to them and uh
[01:22:55.360 --> 01:22:59.520]  the people that were behind the scenes told the lady at the front door
[01:22:59.520 --> 01:23:02.400]  for us to leave or they would call the police honestly because they had
[01:23:02.400 --> 01:23:07.520]  scared about us bringing this issue up. Did you call the police on them?
[01:23:07.520 --> 01:23:11.920]  No I did not but I did follow it up with numerous open records request
[01:23:11.920 --> 01:23:14.640]  all evaded.
[01:23:14.640 --> 01:23:20.800]  Uh is the open records law in the state of Missouri a civil
[01:23:20.800 --> 01:23:25.600]  statute or a criminal statute? Uh civil as far as I know.
[01:23:25.600 --> 01:23:29.680]  Okay hold on let me let me explain why I said that.
[01:23:29.680 --> 01:23:36.720]  In every state that I have looked at the open records law
[01:23:36.720 --> 01:23:44.000]  is not a civil statute because a violation of the open records law
[01:23:44.000 --> 01:23:48.240]  is official misconduct in every state I've looked at.
[01:23:48.240 --> 01:23:51.680]  When I go in and ask for records and they don't want to give it to me oh well
[01:23:51.680 --> 01:23:55.440]  you can sue me. I say yeah I can sue you but I can also
[01:23:55.440 --> 01:23:58.640]  call the sheriff and ask him to come over and arrest you.
[01:23:58.640 --> 01:24:05.200]  That's the violation of the act. In Texas uh Brad is 552.353.
[01:24:05.200 --> 01:24:09.040]  That's right. It says a violation of the act
[01:24:09.040 --> 01:24:12.960]  is an act of official misconduct to class A misdemeanor.
[01:24:12.960 --> 01:24:20.080]  It is not a civil statute. I have these guys saying oh well you don't like it
[01:24:20.080 --> 01:24:24.400]  you can sue me. I said no I can call 911.
[01:24:24.400 --> 01:24:28.640]  I like that better. I think earlier I spoke to
[01:24:28.640 --> 01:24:33.520]  going to the probation department and asking you to see all their financial
[01:24:33.520 --> 01:24:37.520]  records and when they asked me why I wanted to see them they
[01:24:37.520 --> 01:24:41.840]  violated the open records act for the state of Texas.
[01:24:41.840 --> 01:24:47.200]  Not civil criminal. I called the chief of police and asked him to send somebody
[01:24:47.200 --> 01:24:53.520]  out to arrest him. That got real exciting. In Missouri if it
[01:24:53.520 --> 01:24:58.720]  is a criminal act have you filed criminal charges against
[01:24:58.720 --> 01:25:03.920]  every entity who violated any provision of the act?
[01:25:03.920 --> 01:25:09.520]  No I have not. I was unsure of how to approach that to be honest with you.
[01:25:09.520 --> 01:25:14.320]  Look at your open records act for Missouri.
[01:25:14.320 --> 01:25:20.240]  Look at the very end of the act. That's where you will find
[01:25:20.240 --> 01:25:24.240]  if it is a if there are criminal penalties there will be
[01:25:24.240 --> 01:25:30.080]  right at the end. I think in Texas it's like the third
[01:25:30.080 --> 01:25:33.680]  from the end. That says the violation of this act is a
[01:25:33.680 --> 01:25:38.400]  class A misdemeanor official misconduct. Boom.
[01:25:38.400 --> 01:25:43.520]  Yeah we can sue you but after we try to get you arrested
[01:25:43.520 --> 01:25:47.120]  and one of the things I keep stressing
[01:25:47.120 --> 01:25:55.120]  is people avoid criminal. Criminal is an extremely powerful tool.
[01:25:55.120 --> 01:25:59.120]  If you file criminal complaints against a public official
[01:25:59.120 --> 01:26:06.160]  everybody in the system scooches up behind this in blue line.
[01:26:06.160 --> 01:26:10.720]  Yep they they think there is a thin blue line no bubba
[01:26:10.720 --> 01:26:19.280]  there is no thin blue line. You are the servant. I am the master.
[01:26:19.280 --> 01:26:26.480]  You step across my thin line and I will go get all these other guys that are
[01:26:26.480 --> 01:26:31.600]  think they're behind this blue line and I'll drag them in here to arrest you
[01:26:31.600 --> 01:26:36.720]  and when they don't arrest you then I'll go after them
[01:26:36.720 --> 01:26:40.800]  when the officer and then I'll go after the officer's boss and then I'll go
[01:26:40.800 --> 01:26:43.680]  after the district attorney and the district judge
[01:26:43.680 --> 01:26:49.600]  and get everybody peed at you because they're getting criminal charges because
[01:26:49.600 --> 01:26:55.760]  they're trying to protect you. We should use criminal
[01:26:55.760 --> 01:27:02.000]  often. Yeah I understand that. Okay I understand criminal is totally
[01:27:02.000 --> 01:27:06.240]  different than civil. If you're in a civil case and somebody
[01:27:06.240 --> 01:27:09.280]  commits a crime you have a duty to report that
[01:27:09.280 --> 01:27:13.280]  crime and the reporting of that crime has nothing to do with the
[01:27:13.280 --> 01:27:18.240]  civil case. It's totally different. I did that in
[01:27:18.240 --> 01:27:21.840]  a case I was in and the the lawyer came to me and said did you file
[01:27:21.840 --> 01:27:28.400]  criminal charges against a prosecutor attorney? None of your business.
[01:27:28.400 --> 01:27:31.680]  Yeah but the prosecutor attorney is real upset with me.
[01:27:31.680 --> 01:27:36.080]  Deal with it. That's none of your business has nothing to do with the case
[01:27:36.080 --> 01:27:43.200]  that you're dealing with. Criminal is separate. Well actually it's not separate.
[01:27:43.200 --> 01:27:47.360]  You can claim it's separate and you can go hammer on the criminal side
[01:27:47.360 --> 01:27:50.560]  while you're working with them on the civil side
[01:27:50.560 --> 01:27:56.960]  and if anybody on the civil side mentions the criminal side then you go for
[01:27:56.960 --> 01:27:59.440]  sanctions against them because that's improper.
[01:27:59.440 --> 01:28:02.160]  These two don't have anything to do with each other.
[01:28:02.160 --> 01:28:09.040]  It is the most powerful tool you as a pro se litigant have.
[01:28:09.040 --> 01:28:13.120]  Okay well let me get back into some of the aspects of the case.
[01:28:13.120 --> 01:28:18.720]  Okay court order stated that I sufficiently stated a claim against
[01:28:18.720 --> 01:28:22.720]  over 1,000 individual people under one of the fair credit
[01:28:22.720 --> 01:28:29.200]  reporting act sections for over four years of reporting
[01:28:29.200 --> 01:28:35.040]  of violating their duties the fair credit reporting act duties.
[01:28:35.040 --> 01:28:39.840]  Now you already know man under sections N and O between a hundred and a thousand
[01:28:39.840 --> 01:28:43.680]  a day and when it's done erroneously and
[01:28:43.680 --> 01:28:47.760]  negligently that's a thousand a day. If it's in the
[01:28:47.760 --> 01:28:52.080]  fair I think they raised it to a fifteen hundred
[01:28:52.080 --> 01:28:57.200]  but you'd have to check that. Yeah I don't know that but I'll tell you what
[01:28:57.200 --> 01:29:00.640]  you multiply that times over 1,000 people
[01:29:00.640 --> 01:29:05.680]  times 2,000 for two thousand a day times four point plus years
[01:29:05.680 --> 01:29:10.160]  you can do the math and I'm the only guy that ever
[01:29:10.160 --> 01:29:14.720]  under covered all this crap with a simple open records request
[01:29:14.720 --> 01:29:18.800]  Richard reviewed all this and he says the most tantalizing case I've ever seen
[01:29:18.800 --> 01:29:22.400]  in my life. Okay it's kind of tantalizing for me
[01:29:22.400 --> 01:29:26.720]  as well we're about to go to our sponsors but uh
[01:29:26.720 --> 01:29:30.800]  I am going to want to talk to you off the air.
[01:29:30.800 --> 01:29:35.920]  Please I will if I'm very much like to talk to Richard as well and get him on
[01:29:35.920 --> 01:29:39.040]  the air. All right yes can I give you my
[01:29:39.040 --> 01:29:42.480]  phone number on the air? No don't do that on the air
[01:29:42.480 --> 01:29:46.080]  send me an email randy at rule of law radio
[01:29:46.080 --> 01:29:52.400]  dot com you can certainly do that but I would suggest against it
[01:29:52.400 --> 01:29:56.640]  okay yes send me an email I'll get back to you
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[01:34:35.120 --> 01:34:39.040]  Okay we are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain,
[01:34:39.040 --> 01:34:43.120]  rule of law radio and we're talking to Terry in Missouri.
[01:34:43.120 --> 01:34:50.800]  And Terry I need to talk to you offline. You have a knowledge base
[01:34:50.800 --> 01:34:58.880]  that I want to capture. Are you familiar with the tool I've been
[01:34:58.880 --> 01:35:04.720]  working on all this time? Well vaguely but I have something that
[01:35:04.720 --> 01:35:09.280]  it's going to fit right in. Yes I'm very interested and I have a group of guys
[01:35:09.280 --> 01:35:14.000]  here. It's also very interested and I also got two racketeering suits that I
[01:35:14.000 --> 01:35:18.800]  need to talk to you about. It's also going to blow your doors off.
[01:35:18.800 --> 01:35:24.720]  Let's do this offline. It's too complex. You know this is radio show and
[01:35:24.720 --> 01:35:28.160]  we have a lot of people out there and most of them aren't as sophisticated as
[01:35:28.160 --> 01:35:30.800]  you. And it's hard for them to wrap their head
[01:35:30.800 --> 01:35:35.040]  around all of this. Let's talk about this online,
[01:35:35.040 --> 01:35:41.280]  offline and see if we can organize this in a way we can bring it back
[01:35:41.280 --> 01:35:44.960]  and present it to people so they can follow a step by step.
[01:35:44.960 --> 01:35:49.680]  I specifically want to capture your knowledge
[01:35:49.680 --> 01:35:55.920]  on how to address credit issues in Missouri.
[01:35:55.920 --> 01:36:02.560]  We are looking at an avalanche of devastation for the ordinary individual.
[01:36:02.560 --> 01:36:07.600]  I appreciate that. I need your help in going after this judge in these court
[01:36:07.600 --> 01:36:12.320]  clerks for basically defrauding me out of my court case.
[01:36:12.320 --> 01:36:16.560]  Oh that's that's what I that that's my form of entertainment.
[01:36:16.560 --> 01:36:21.600]  I know man now I'm not joking there are a thousand people in Missouri
[01:36:21.600 --> 01:36:28.560]  who invested in this thing. They falsified over possibly 30 million
[01:36:28.560 --> 01:36:32.720]  credit files. Okay wait a minute, you got a thousand
[01:36:32.720 --> 01:36:37.600]  people who invested in this. Do you think that those
[01:36:37.600 --> 01:36:43.840]  thousand people conspired and connived to defraud people
[01:36:43.840 --> 01:36:51.200]  or were they led into this by someone or some group?
[01:36:51.200 --> 01:36:56.400]  The reason I'm saying that is we may be able to take these thousand people
[01:36:56.400 --> 01:37:02.640]  and turn them against the perpetrators. Well of course but see it's too late they
[01:37:02.640 --> 01:37:06.880]  already done the damage to me and they were already found guilty
[01:37:06.880 --> 01:37:10.320]  by the by this judge.
[01:37:13.120 --> 01:37:20.720]  They, the thousand, the one thousand people minus one thousand secured parties
[01:37:20.720 --> 01:37:26.160]  in the orders that I sufficiently had a claim against all of them.
[01:37:26.160 --> 01:37:30.000]  And okay we need to talk this is too complex
[01:37:30.000 --> 01:37:34.720]  we need to talk about this offline. So the judge interfered with your claim
[01:37:34.720 --> 01:37:39.440]  against all of them. Yes. Okay so first thing we need to go
[01:37:39.440 --> 01:37:42.480]  after is the judge. Have you filed any judicial
[01:37:42.480 --> 01:37:48.560]  conduct complaints against the judge? No but I filed under section 144 and 455
[01:37:48.560 --> 01:37:55.120]  to have him removed from the case and it was I went to the
[01:37:55.120 --> 01:37:59.920]  the head the head judge in Jefferson in Kansas City
[01:37:59.920 --> 01:38:03.040]  ignored it. It also went to Michael Gantz the A
[01:38:03.040 --> 01:38:07.680]  circuit court. Okay did you go after the head judge in Kansas City?
[01:38:07.680 --> 01:38:14.480]  No I have not. Oh that's the whole focus of what I do
[01:38:14.480 --> 01:38:20.000]  is we start with some chump down here on the bottom he does something stupid.
[01:38:20.000 --> 01:38:24.720]  So we file against him with someone above him and that person above him wants to
[01:38:24.720 --> 01:38:28.640]  protect the guys below him because they all slither up behind this
[01:38:28.640 --> 01:38:34.000]  imaginary thin blue line. So we don't care about the guy at the
[01:38:34.000 --> 01:38:37.440]  bottom we want to use him to get to this next guy
[01:38:37.440 --> 01:38:40.560]  and when he slithers up behind this thin blue line
[01:38:40.560 --> 01:38:44.080]  we hammer him and then when the next guy
[01:38:44.080 --> 01:38:48.240]  tries to protect this one we hammer that one.
[01:38:48.240 --> 01:38:52.640]  I primarily want to beat up the Chief Justice of the Supreme
[01:38:52.640 --> 01:38:58.000]  Union State that's the guy I want to after. You have the best opportunity
[01:38:58.000 --> 01:39:01.440]  I've got this thing so incredibly well documented
[01:39:01.440 --> 01:39:04.800]  and you're not going to believe what else I've caught him at
[01:39:04.800 --> 01:39:09.520]  under other issues and I want to say a side issue here
[01:39:09.520 --> 01:39:13.440]  is you've had people call in want to know how to do the crap out of these
[01:39:13.440 --> 01:39:19.360]  these idiots called business owners who are having their employees
[01:39:19.360 --> 01:39:23.040]  obstruct them at the at the front of the building or whatever and not letting
[01:39:23.040 --> 01:39:27.040]  them in. Well a guy that knows you has filed I
[01:39:27.040 --> 01:39:30.560]  think between six and a dozen court cases
[01:39:30.560 --> 01:39:36.400]  all in Orlando Florida and what he went after is a factor impersonating police
[01:39:36.400 --> 01:39:39.680]  officer. There's no way in hell that you can
[01:39:39.680 --> 01:39:43.680]  defend against that and two of them I think have gone to settlement.
[01:39:43.680 --> 01:39:47.760]  Oh wonderful. In settlement's what we want.
[01:39:47.760 --> 01:39:53.520]  Okay we need to talk offline. He already knows you.
[01:39:53.520 --> 01:39:57.600]  Okay who is this person? Yes guys name is Steve Emerson.
[01:39:57.600 --> 01:40:01.040]  You can go onto YouTube you can hear his whole deal.
[01:40:01.040 --> 01:40:08.080]  It's the Bowen Rocco show. He won a 38.2 million dollar victory
[01:40:08.080 --> 01:40:11.920]  under a kicking some guy out of his house which he
[01:40:11.920 --> 01:40:17.920]  own titled to put him in the pokey for six months and created a false
[01:40:17.920 --> 01:40:22.080]  deed and sold it. The guy still had title of the property
[01:40:22.080 --> 01:40:26.400]  and he followed everything you did guys like David Merlin a little bit of the
[01:40:26.400 --> 01:40:30.000]  stuff he got from um oh my god I can't say I'm
[01:40:30.000 --> 01:40:36.800]  working on David Merlin. I had David on my show
[01:40:36.800 --> 01:40:40.240]  once and he was he was really knowledgeable
[01:40:40.240 --> 01:40:46.000]  but he is so arrogant. So I called him David Merlin and he kept saying Merlin
[01:40:46.000 --> 01:40:49.680]  Merlin. If we went to break and Debra said
[01:40:49.680 --> 01:40:55.280]  you know you're pronouncing your name wrong I said yeah I know.
[01:40:55.280 --> 01:41:00.560]  I just did it to annoy him. He won a 38.2 million dollar deal
[01:41:00.560 --> 01:41:04.880]  settled out of court was paid that in 91 days.
[01:41:04.880 --> 01:41:08.880]  It's on the Bowen Rocco show all you got to do is type in that
[01:41:08.880 --> 01:41:12.000]  and how to remove your taxes from the property roll
[01:41:12.000 --> 01:41:16.080]  and he used to email you maybe 12 or 15 years ago and he
[01:41:16.080 --> 01:41:19.200]  studied a lot of the crap you did and laid it on him and
[01:41:19.200 --> 01:41:22.480]  was trying to get rid of him you know and through the criminal complaints and
[01:41:22.480 --> 01:41:27.120]  they peed in your pants and paid him. So wonderful I definitely want to get
[01:41:27.120 --> 01:41:30.480]  back in touch with him. Randy I need your help on and it will
[01:41:30.480 --> 01:41:35.280]  go better and better man. Okay this is an opportunity we have
[01:41:35.280 --> 01:41:39.680]  you know all of these years you we've been doing the show
[01:41:39.680 --> 01:41:43.520]  we've talked about people who are asleep and people who are awake.
[01:41:43.520 --> 01:41:47.760]  Well I'm awake man I've been awake for 25 years dude. Right now
[01:41:47.760 --> 01:41:54.400]  everybody's awake. Yeah so this is the window the window's open for us.
[01:41:54.400 --> 01:41:57.760]  We just have to get our act in gear and step through it.
[01:41:57.760 --> 01:42:03.200]  Right. I feel like my whole life has led me to this place.
[01:42:03.200 --> 01:42:07.520]  Yeah well I believe in God man and I'm here for a purpose.
[01:42:07.520 --> 01:42:12.240]  I ain't taking no crap I ain't backing down and I've got other people that have
[01:42:12.240 --> 01:42:14.720]  really really helped me out. I studied with Richard
[01:42:14.720 --> 01:42:20.480]  Cornforth I don't know in his house for two weeks about all this stuff.
[01:42:20.480 --> 01:42:24.880]  I definitely want to talk to Richard Cornforth do you know what the
[01:42:24.880 --> 01:42:32.640]  definition of meek is? Of what? Meek M-E-E-K.
[01:42:32.640 --> 01:42:39.600]  No I guess I don't Randy. Quiet strength.
[01:42:39.600 --> 01:42:43.360]  When the Bible says the meek shall inherit the earth it doesn't mean the
[01:42:43.360 --> 01:42:49.200]  weak sniveling powered it means those who have
[01:42:49.200 --> 01:42:54.480]  quiet strength. Well I'll fit into that groove any day
[01:42:54.480 --> 01:42:58.880]  in a week man. Yeah okay I'll send you an email
[01:42:58.880 --> 01:43:02.160]  Randy I'll get off and you can take somebody else's call but
[01:43:02.160 --> 01:43:06.240]  I got this thing documented down to where if you help me out
[01:43:06.240 --> 01:43:10.240]  there's a thousand people that owe money right now.
[01:43:10.240 --> 01:43:14.400]  Okay give me a send me an email and we'll talk
[01:43:14.400 --> 01:43:18.080]  I have a tool to build all your knowledge into
[01:43:18.080 --> 01:43:22.000]  and then we can give it to a lot of other people and create a tsunami
[01:43:22.000 --> 01:43:29.200]  back against these guys. Okay thank you Terry we're about to go
[01:43:29.200 --> 01:43:34.480]  to our sponsors Randy Kelton Brett Fountain rule of law radio
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[01:46:39.040 --> 01:46:44.960]  rule of law radio on this the 21st day of August 2020.
[01:46:44.960 --> 01:46:49.360]  And we're going to Ted in Utah. Hello Ted.
[01:46:49.360 --> 01:46:57.200]  What do you have for us today?
[01:46:57.200 --> 01:47:04.880]  Okay Ted either you're muted, you're asleep,
[01:47:04.880 --> 01:47:08.640]  or your connection failed. If you're muted,
[01:47:08.640 --> 01:47:13.120]  unmute. If your connection failed call us back.
[01:47:13.120 --> 01:47:17.120]  I apologize that it took so long to get to you.
[01:47:17.120 --> 01:47:20.400]  And actually I was kind of looking forward to Utah. I haven't talked to anyone
[01:47:20.400 --> 01:47:24.960]  in Utah for quite a while. And if you're asleep wake up.
[01:47:24.960 --> 01:47:29.280]  No I'm awake. Oh there we go.
[01:47:29.280 --> 01:47:34.240]  Yeah I was there's the worst thing on the radio is dead air.
[01:47:34.240 --> 01:47:38.240]  So I was just keeping the air alive until I give you time to come in.
[01:47:38.240 --> 01:47:44.160]  Okay what do you have for us today Ted? Well I got forced into a fight with my
[01:47:44.160 --> 01:47:50.640]  big mouth. You're probably not the first one.
[01:47:50.640 --> 01:47:56.960]  I've been there myself. The dog kept you out for not doing their job.
[01:47:56.960 --> 01:48:01.440]  And I said maybe it's time somebody needs to start filing post complaints on you.
[01:48:01.440 --> 01:48:04.720]  You peep your.
[01:48:06.960 --> 01:48:12.640]  Wait I didn't understand that last part. You kind of broke up a little.
[01:48:12.640 --> 01:48:21.680]  So it's filed. Okay Ted we are getting about every
[01:48:21.680 --> 01:48:27.040]  third sololable. Can you try hanging up and calling
[01:48:27.040 --> 01:48:29.600]  right back?
[01:48:32.240 --> 01:48:35.840]  If you're talking I'm not hearing you at all.
[01:48:35.840 --> 01:48:40.880]  Well I hope he will call back. It sounded like he was saying
[01:48:40.880 --> 01:48:47.520]  that there was a dog catcher and he said something to the dog
[01:48:47.520 --> 01:48:52.560]  catcher about filing some kind of a complaint.
[01:48:52.560 --> 01:48:57.920]  Is that what you were able to pick up? No I couldn't get any of it. I just got a
[01:48:57.920 --> 01:49:04.000]  few sololables. Sometimes I get accused of putting the
[01:49:04.000 --> 01:49:09.440]  emphasis on the wrong sololable. Well maybe that's what his phone was
[01:49:09.440 --> 01:49:12.880]  doing. I had a friend once that was in a truck
[01:49:12.880 --> 01:49:17.040]  with me and I said something and he corrected me
[01:49:17.040 --> 01:49:21.520]  and I said well you're pretty sharp there and he said oh yeah
[01:49:21.520 --> 01:49:28.640]  I always did pronounce you eight good. Oh okay.
[01:49:28.640 --> 01:49:35.440]  Looks like we've got Ted back. Let's see if we can hear you any better.
[01:49:35.440 --> 01:49:43.280]  Can you hear me now? Oh that's better. Hello? Okay you're good. Start
[01:49:43.280 --> 01:49:47.440]  over. Okay.
[01:49:47.440 --> 01:49:51.600]  Eventually I got a ticket from the dog catcher.
[01:49:53.440 --> 01:49:57.840]  Brandy? Wait a minute. You got a ticket from the dog catcher?
[01:49:57.840 --> 01:50:02.240]  Yes. Are you saying he caught you?
[01:50:02.240 --> 01:50:06.400]  Yeah I was being an SOB.
[01:50:07.200 --> 01:50:12.000]  So if you were being an SOB you're a man after my own heart.
[01:50:12.000 --> 01:50:18.160]  So what was the ticket? Well I've got a little poodle.
[01:50:18.160 --> 01:50:22.560]  She's a miniature. There's not an aggressive bone in her body.
[01:50:22.560 --> 01:50:27.760]  But wait a minute. Is she killer attack trained?
[01:50:27.760 --> 01:50:32.400]  She must be. Must be. I've got some shih tzus and
[01:50:32.400 --> 01:50:38.240]  I went into Walmart with this pup when I bought it for my wife
[01:50:38.240 --> 01:50:42.480]  and I was trying to find a halter for it. I went into
[01:50:42.480 --> 01:50:48.240]  Walmart and the guard looked at it, looked at the dog and I said
[01:50:48.240 --> 01:50:54.480]  that's my security dog. The thing's about four inches tall. Your security dog?
[01:50:54.480 --> 01:50:58.160]  Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Be careful. She's killer attack trained.
[01:50:58.160 --> 01:51:01.840]  He said oh my goodness. I'm going to be careful.
[01:51:01.840 --> 01:51:05.440]  So you're a miniature poodle.
[01:51:05.440 --> 01:51:12.960]  Absolutely. She's 20 pounds but she'll she dug a hole under the gate
[01:51:12.960 --> 01:51:18.000]  slid it under there and she goes out greets people.
[01:51:18.000 --> 01:51:25.360]  Yeah I said to load the gate but I got a ticket for an aggressive dog
[01:51:25.360 --> 01:51:28.720]  and the whole thing is
[01:51:28.960 --> 01:51:34.560]  she's wanting to get me twice so she can put the dog down.
[01:51:34.560 --> 01:51:44.240]  Whoa. So have you went straight for this person's throat?
[01:51:44.240 --> 01:51:51.120]  I've got to. I don't want to spend the energy. I'm old. I'm 80. I'm tired
[01:51:51.120 --> 01:51:55.680]  but they want to force it into a fight. I guess I've got to do it.
[01:51:55.680 --> 01:51:59.600]  Okay well since you're talking on this show
[01:51:59.600 --> 01:52:06.320]  what we can do is show you how a fight with these guys can be
[01:52:06.320 --> 01:52:12.240]  so much fun. You see you and I are both older
[01:52:12.240 --> 01:52:17.520]  and they can't frighten us like they can the children.
[01:52:17.520 --> 01:52:21.280]  If you guys want to impress somebody you need to go down to the high school
[01:52:21.280 --> 01:52:25.840]  parking lot. We're old. We have to get up every three or
[01:52:25.840 --> 01:52:30.640]  four hours in peace so we never sleep good so we're grouchy.
[01:52:30.640 --> 01:52:33.600]  Right. We've had a long life so we don't care.
[01:52:33.600 --> 01:52:37.360]  You want to fight? You know I was in a read an article about how you should
[01:52:37.360 --> 01:52:41.600]  send old guys into war not young kids.
[01:52:41.600 --> 01:52:44.400]  Young kids have a long life a living in front of them and they're
[01:52:44.400 --> 01:52:49.040]  they're afraid of losing that life. We're old. We don't sleep well because we've
[01:52:49.040 --> 01:52:52.400]  got a pee and we're we don't care. We've been around
[01:52:52.400 --> 01:52:55.360]  a long time so you want to fight that's the worst thing you have to fight
[01:52:55.360 --> 01:52:57.680]  against.
[01:52:58.080 --> 01:53:06.400]  If the how did the code inspector or the dog catcher
[01:53:06.400 --> 01:53:11.360]  claim that the dog was aggressive? How much does this dog weigh?
[01:53:11.360 --> 01:53:14.640]  Twenty pounds. Twenty pounds so it's probably about
[01:53:14.640 --> 01:53:20.880]  eight inches tall. Who is two or three stands per side.
[01:53:20.880 --> 01:53:25.040]  Yeah is there did he claim that the dog bit anyone?
[01:53:25.040 --> 01:53:29.200]  Yes. Her dog's nose.
[01:53:29.760 --> 01:53:40.800]  Her dog's nose. The victim. Oh her dog is the how but what is her dog?
[01:53:40.800 --> 01:53:46.320]  I don't know but I see in a partial video and the only thing I see on the video
[01:53:46.320 --> 01:53:51.680]  is her attacking Lucy and Lucy's responding. Lucy's my dog.
[01:53:51.680 --> 01:53:58.880]  Yeah okay so did the code enforcer this was a dog
[01:53:58.880 --> 01:54:05.680]  catcher filing about her own dog? No no no somebody
[01:54:05.680 --> 01:54:13.680]  else on the plane. Oh okay. She had the video on her phone that
[01:54:13.680 --> 01:54:16.960]  dog catcher had the video.
[01:54:17.600 --> 01:54:22.720]  So someone else what dog was what size was the dog that was attacking
[01:54:22.720 --> 01:54:29.360]  that was engaged in this interchange? 40 or 50 pounds.
[01:54:29.360 --> 01:54:37.360]  So her 50 pound dog is being attacked by a 20 pound poodle?
[01:54:37.360 --> 01:54:44.160]  Yes. Okay so what was the claim was the dog out of
[01:54:44.160 --> 01:54:49.840]  the yard and not on a leash? Yes she got out of the yard.
[01:54:49.840 --> 01:54:54.560]  Can I email you to get I think I can pull the forms off the
[01:54:54.560 --> 01:55:01.200]  your ticket form but I need to get that on email or
[01:55:01.200 --> 01:55:04.640]  writings. Yeah my traffic ticket site is down at
[01:55:04.640 --> 01:55:09.280]  the moment I haven't had time to bring it back up but
[01:55:09.280 --> 01:55:17.040]  yeah Sydney you know this is this is a city and
[01:55:17.040 --> 01:55:21.680]  the city doesn't want to euthanize your dog.
[01:55:21.680 --> 01:55:25.440]  You know you got a city council here the last thing what they want to do is be
[01:55:25.440 --> 01:55:30.320]  accused of euthanizing somebody's dog. I'm going to say
[01:55:30.320 --> 01:55:34.720]  here this may not be a fight you want to have.
[01:55:34.720 --> 01:55:39.440]  This may be a negotiation you want to have.
[01:55:39.440 --> 01:55:46.880]  So the idea that a 20 pound poodle can be any danger to a 40 pound dog what
[01:55:46.880 --> 01:55:52.400]  kind of dog was this? I don't know.
[01:55:52.400 --> 01:55:56.320]  But okay the idea that a 20 pound poodle can be
[01:55:56.320 --> 01:56:00.400]  this is about a dog digging under a fence.
[01:56:00.400 --> 01:56:06.480]  Yeah and that's it any indication that the dog was in any way aggressive
[01:56:06.480 --> 01:56:10.160]  toward a human? No.
[01:56:10.160 --> 01:56:17.360]  The dog may seem to be a important point to bring. Lucy coming on
[01:56:17.360 --> 01:56:22.640]  go with this lady screaming at her. Get out of here I think she must have
[01:56:22.640 --> 01:56:26.640]  hit her or something. I you know I got no idea what
[01:56:26.640 --> 01:56:33.120]  happened. Does the video start in the middle?
[01:56:33.120 --> 01:56:37.440]  Does it not show everything? It started in the middle.
[01:56:37.440 --> 01:56:41.760]  Okay then there's no indication of why the dog
[01:56:41.760 --> 01:56:47.440]  was a 20 pound poodle was aggressive toward a 40 pound dog.
[01:56:47.440 --> 01:56:53.360]  Yeah I don't believe it. Okay okay assume that you are sitting on city
[01:56:53.360 --> 01:56:57.920]  council. Yeah and and this woman comes in all
[01:56:57.920 --> 01:57:02.480]  irate and railing and righteous indignation because this
[01:57:02.480 --> 01:57:10.160]  this aggressive miniature poodle attacked my 40 pound dog.
[01:57:10.160 --> 01:57:17.920]  What would you think? Well the dog capture here is a police officer.
[01:57:17.920 --> 01:57:22.400]  Ooh vulnerable.
[01:57:23.120 --> 01:57:26.640]  Police officers tend to think that they rule the roost but they are
[01:57:26.640 --> 01:57:29.920]  ultimately vulnerable but this is probably not something you want to
[01:57:29.920 --> 01:57:35.440]  start a fight with. Well now go to the council say look you know
[01:57:35.440 --> 01:57:38.720]  my dog got out of one of the yard. Well I'll fix that.
[01:57:38.720 --> 01:57:42.960]  But the idea that a 20 pound poodle is going to attack a 40 pound dog
[01:57:42.960 --> 01:57:48.960]  there had to be some reason you know this is just reasonable.
[01:57:48.960 --> 01:57:53.520]  It seems like your policeman there wants to euthanize a 20 pound poodle.
[01:57:53.520 --> 01:57:58.480]  What is that? She wants to get even with me.
[01:57:58.480 --> 01:58:06.000]  Ooh okay the policeman is ultimately vulnerable.
[01:58:06.000 --> 01:58:09.840]  Send me an email. I'll talk about this. If you file a professional conduct
[01:58:09.840 --> 01:58:13.760]  against that policeman that's really going to chirp a
[01:58:13.760 --> 01:58:18.320]  knot in her behind or his behind whichever he is.
[01:58:18.320 --> 01:58:24.720]  Oh yeah. Accused him of trying to kill your dog to get back at you.
[01:58:24.720 --> 01:58:31.600]  How ugly is that? But then first if there's a way to do this
[01:58:31.600 --> 01:58:34.880]  without a fight I would want to do this without a fight.
[01:58:34.880 --> 01:58:38.960]  But we're about to run out of time. Send me an email and we'll talk about this
[01:58:38.960 --> 01:58:44.880]  offline. Yeah. Randy at ruleoflawradio.com.
[01:58:44.880 --> 01:58:48.320]  I'm sorry we are out of time. We'll be back next week.
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