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[00:20.000 --> 00:35.000]  Markets for Wednesday the 6th of February 2019 open with gold at $1,313.70, silver $15.77, copper $2.83, oil Texas crude $3.66 a barrel,
[00:35.000 --> 00:54.000]  brand crude $61.98 a barrel, and cryptos in order of market capitalization, Bitcoin $3,401.64, Ripple XRP $0.29, Ethereum $103.10, and Eos is at $2.32 a crypto coin.
[00:54.000 --> 01:07.000]  Today in history, the year 1918, British women over the age of 30 who meet minimum property qualifications get the right to vote when the Representation of the People Act of 1918 was passed by parliament.
[01:07.000 --> 01:19.000]  In recent news, several Texas-based organizations filed a lawsuit today, requesting that a federal court stop the state from flagging about 95,000 people as potentially illegally registered to vote.
[01:19.000 --> 01:33.000]  The list was compiled after an 11-month-long investigation by the office of the Texas Secretary of State and the Texas Department of Public Safety, which sought to identify non-U.S. citizens who were registered to vote when obtaining age arbitrage license.
[01:33.000 --> 01:45.000]  Over half of the 95,000 did indeed vote, it seems. However, further controversy was raised when it became clear that some of the names were not, in fact, belonging to those who were non-citizens and registered.
[01:45.000 --> 01:50.000]  Apparently, around 25% of all Latino immigrants become naturalized, gaining the right to vote.
[01:50.000 --> 01:57.000]  Registered voters who receive letters querying their citizenship have 30 days to respond with proof of eligibility.
[01:57.000 --> 02:09.000]  Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton and David Whitley, the Texas Secretary of State, have yet to officially comment regarding this list and any updates pertaining to it.
[02:09.000 --> 02:17.000]  A Texas man of only 24 years old, William Brown, died from a severed artery in his neck after a vape pen exploded while he was using it.
[02:17.000 --> 02:21.000]  It apparently happened in the parking lot of the vape shop where he got it.
[02:21.000 --> 02:30.000]  The history revealed that a piece of metal was embedded in his brainstem. The vape store, Smoke and Vape DZ, has refused to comment.
[02:30.000 --> 02:41.000]  First edition anchorwoman, Kristen Diaz, interviewed Aislin Campbell, the executive director of Grow Local, South Texas, concerning the upcoming Texas Organic Farmers and Gardeners Association conference,
[02:41.000 --> 02:51.000]  which will be taking place at the Corpus Christi Omni Hotel from February 14th to 16th, 6 to 9 p.m. You can find the interview at kiiitv.com.
[03:11.000 --> 03:33.000]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Rural Law Radio, and we're going to Adam in Texas. Hello, Adam.
[03:33.000 --> 03:36.000]  Hello, Randy. How you doing? Can you hear me?
[03:36.000 --> 03:40.000]  I can hear you. What do you have for us today?
[03:40.000 --> 03:56.000]  Well, I'm still pursuing this particular justice of peace that decided to deny his own disqualification, and I must have got the criminal side figured out as far as I'm going to take that.
[03:56.000 --> 04:19.000]  But on the state commission on judicial conduct side, back in November, I filed a state commission on judicial conduct complaint on the judge for denying their own disqualification with a copy of the signature and everything in order from the judge.
[04:19.000 --> 04:38.000]  And I did it anonymously, and about two months later, the state commission on judicial conduct sent me a letter back, and they wanted me to waive my decision to be anonymous.
[04:38.000 --> 04:51.000]  And so I thought, well, this is great. You know, they want me to waive my decision to be anonymous so they can look into it further. I'm thinking, well, they must be interested. You know, I might get some good results on this one.
[04:51.000 --> 04:56.000]  So I did. I sent a little form in, and I waived my right to be anonymous.
[04:56.000 --> 05:10.000]  Well, anyway, yesterday I got their determination back in the mail, and they decided that there was no evidence of judicial misconduct, and they weren't going to do anything about it.
[05:10.000 --> 05:26.000]  So, you know, according to Texas Civil Rules, it's easier. Wait, did you give the commission evidence of a crime?
[05:26.000 --> 05:36.000]  Yeah, I have the order from the judge with the signature saying that they're denying their own disqualification, denied.
[05:36.000 --> 05:47.000]  Okay. On the commission, there are two judges. Those judges are magistrates.
[05:47.000 --> 05:56.000]  When a magistrate is given, is made known that a crime has been committed, he is required to hold an examining trial.
[05:56.000 --> 06:03.000]  To your knowledge, did these two judges hold an examining trial?
[06:03.000 --> 06:08.000]  Absolutely not. Of course, they didn't hold an examining trial already.
[06:08.000 --> 06:10.000]  You see where I'm going?
[06:10.000 --> 06:30.000]  Yes, and that's why I called in because I was going to tell you that what I was thinking about doing is because I'm unhappy with their lackadaisical attitude towards this cause that I'm bringing up, even though it's just a complaint with the State Commission on Judicial Conducts.
[06:30.000 --> 06:38.000]  I was going to go ahead, there's 13 of those commissioners on that State Commission on Judicial Conducts, about half of them are probably attorneys.
[06:38.000 --> 06:46.000]  I was thinking about going ahead and barger even every attorney I could find that's a commissioner on the State Commission on Judicial Conducts.
[06:46.000 --> 06:51.000]  I'm trying to remember how they are structured.
[06:51.000 --> 07:10.000]  There is either one or two ordinary citizens. There are two judges. I think there's either six or seven on it, and the other three are officials of some type, but they're not judges.
[07:10.000 --> 07:29.000]  I just read their stuff on their website. There's 13 of them. Six of them are appointed by the Supreme Court, Texas Supreme Court, and then five of them are public, appointed by the governor, and two of them are attorneys,
[07:29.000 --> 07:39.000]  and two of them are attorneys, and two of them are attorneys, and two of them have to be judges.
[07:39.000 --> 07:43.000]  Yes, several of them are judges, all the way from them.
[07:43.000 --> 07:50.000]  All of the judges should get criminal charges for shielding from prosecution.
[07:50.000 --> 07:52.000]  3805 penal code.
[07:52.000 --> 07:55.000]  I didn't think of that. I didn't think of that at all.
[07:55.000 --> 07:58.000]  I was just going to bargain with them. You're saying...
[07:58.000 --> 08:14.000]  I'm saying they're magistrates, and they had it made known to them that a crime's been committed. When you filed a complaint, did you include a verified criminal affidavit?
[08:14.000 --> 08:18.000]  No, because it's only a judicial court complaint.
[08:18.000 --> 08:22.000]  I'm going to suggest that you refile...
[08:22.000 --> 08:35.000]  Actually, I think I did. I think I sent them a copy of my verified criminal affidavit, a copy of the judge's order denying his own disqualification and all that stuff, and I said,
[08:35.000 --> 08:42.000]  Good. If they got a verified criminal affidavit, you invoke their duty as a magistrate.
[08:42.000 --> 08:47.000]  Okay, but if I didn't send the criminal verified criminal affidavit, then I didn't.
[08:47.000 --> 09:00.000]  It kind of matters. It's better if you send a verified criminal affidavit. If you didn't, then rebut their denial. You can appeal their denial.
[09:00.000 --> 09:02.000]  I'm going to do that, yeah.
[09:02.000 --> 09:07.000]  In your appeal, send them a verified criminal affidavit.
[09:07.000 --> 09:08.000]  Great.
[09:08.000 --> 09:15.000]  Then when they don't hold an examining trial, then you file a verified criminal affidavit against them.
[09:15.000 --> 09:16.000]  Brilliant.
[09:16.000 --> 09:20.000]  That was Jerkinot and they're behind.
[09:20.000 --> 09:31.000]  Yeah, you know, I've sent in a lot of judicial court complaints on these judges just doing stuff that just obviously, I mean, it's black and white that can't do,
[09:31.000 --> 09:40.000]  and 90% of the time, you know, there's state commission on judicial conduct, and they just say, Oh, we didn't find anything, you know, I'm tired of it.
[09:40.000 --> 09:45.000]  That sounds like a criminal conspiracy to commit.
[09:45.000 --> 09:47.000]  Yeah.
[09:47.000 --> 10:03.000]  When you, if you've got a number of judges, then you file against every one of them for conspiring with one another to heal the person from prosecution by failing to perform a duty they are required to perform.
[10:03.000 --> 10:09.000]  Yeah, okay. Yeah, that did not cross my mind. That's a great angle.
[10:09.000 --> 10:12.000]  I got it called in.
[10:12.000 --> 10:19.000]  Well, I hope you have great fun with them and definitely bar grievances.
[10:19.000 --> 10:25.000]  Local judges, especially JPs and municipal judges.
[10:25.000 --> 10:32.000]  Tim Magnuson, he's been on the show a few times, his brother was a municipal judge.
[10:32.000 --> 10:39.000]  He's a lawyer in Mansfield, Texas, and he was a municipal judge for quite a while.
[10:39.000 --> 10:58.000]  And he expressed his frustration in that he was, he felt like the code, the state commission on judicial conduct, never sanctioned elected judges.
[10:58.000 --> 11:07.000]  They're the justice of the piece and municipal judges are considered inferior court judges, county judges and district judges.
[11:07.000 --> 11:20.000]  You know, he complained that he felt like they never sanctioned those guys, that they only sanctioned the inferior court judges, so it would make it look like they're actually doing something.
[11:20.000 --> 11:23.000]  And I think it's true.
[11:23.000 --> 11:30.000]  But whether it's true or not, these lower level judges believe it's true.
[11:30.000 --> 11:38.000]  So they're never going to tell you, but when you start filing judicial conduct complaints against them, it terrifies them.
[11:38.000 --> 11:51.000]  They're terrified that the state commission is going to use them as a scapegoat to make it look like they're actually doing something while they're protecting all the higher level judges.
[11:51.000 --> 11:54.000]  Keep filing them.
[11:54.000 --> 12:01.000]  Never expect them to, never expect that they will admit how much it concerns them.
[12:01.000 --> 12:03.000]  Yeah, but it does.
[12:03.000 --> 12:16.000]  As a matter of fact, it was Ken Magnuson who years ago, before he got into all of this, hired a lawyer and the lawyer screwed everything around and he filed a barge against the lawyer.
[12:16.000 --> 12:28.000]  And then they pulled the same garbage. We find no evidence, I forget.
[12:28.000 --> 12:33.000]  We find no evidence rising to the level of misconduct.
[12:33.000 --> 12:34.000]  That's what they always get.
[12:34.000 --> 12:36.000]  So he got one of those letters.
[12:36.000 --> 12:42.000]  Five years later, he was an election judge in Flower Mound, Texas.
[12:42.000 --> 12:48.000]  And one of the other election judges was a lawyer, the head of a law firm.
[12:48.000 --> 12:55.000]  And when they introduced him, the lawyer recognized his name.
[12:55.000 --> 12:59.000]  Narsutis was this lawyer.
[12:59.000 --> 13:02.000]  And he said, do you know Narsutis?
[13:02.000 --> 13:06.000]  And he said, oh yeah, I filed a barge against him, but didn't do any good.
[13:06.000 --> 13:18.000]  And he said, this head of this law firm leaned across the table and said, Mr. Magnuson, you hurt him far more than you can imagine.
[13:18.000 --> 13:21.000]  Whoa!
[13:21.000 --> 13:30.000]  Ken thought nothing happened because nobody came to him and said, oh please stop beating me up.
[13:30.000 --> 13:36.000]  The last thing they're going to do is give you a clue that what you did hurt him.
[13:36.000 --> 13:49.000]  And he wouldn't have got a clue if he hadn't have ran across this particular lawyer because this guy was trying to get on to that law firm.
[13:49.000 --> 13:52.000]  And you want to get on to a law firm.
[13:52.000 --> 13:54.000]  Okay, look at it this way.
[13:54.000 --> 13:57.000]  You're a law firm and you hire this lawyer.
[13:57.000 --> 14:04.000]  And the client, one of his clients feels like the lawyer didn't handle his claim correctly.
[14:04.000 --> 14:07.000]  So he sues your law firm.
[14:07.000 --> 14:16.000]  And they come to court and they find that this lawyer has two or three bar grievances against him.
[14:16.000 --> 14:21.000]  The court's going to say, what were you thinking hiring this chump?
[14:21.000 --> 14:23.000]  Did you see these bar grievances?
[14:23.000 --> 14:26.000]  Did you see he was always already a problem?
[14:26.000 --> 14:28.000]  They never ruled against him.
[14:28.000 --> 14:31.000]  Well, the courts know the same thing we do.
[14:31.000 --> 14:33.000]  Bar is not going to do anything to the lawyers.
[14:33.000 --> 14:37.000]  They're just a public relations agency for the lawyers.
[14:37.000 --> 14:43.000]  They're just there to keep guys like you from suing the lawyers.
[14:43.000 --> 14:45.000]  Because they tell you, oh, there's nothing here.
[14:45.000 --> 14:47.000]  You don't have a claim.
[14:47.000 --> 14:51.000]  That's the whole purpose.
[14:51.000 --> 14:57.000]  Put some blot on their record that never, ever goes away.
[14:57.000 --> 14:59.000]  And I was in the military.
[14:59.000 --> 15:13.000]  And I called the inspector general on my NCOIC, the head non-commissioned officer.
[15:13.000 --> 15:21.000]  And the second time I did that, I got called to a meeting with the commander.
[15:21.000 --> 15:23.000]  There were six of us there.
[15:23.000 --> 15:25.000]  And all of us were airmen.
[15:25.000 --> 15:29.000]  I just got my third stripe, so I'm just a buck sergeant.
[15:29.000 --> 15:37.000]  And he explained to us, he said, I just got three line numbers for chief master.
[15:37.000 --> 15:43.000]  I have 32 senior masters.
[15:43.000 --> 15:47.000]  All of them with essentially the same time and grade.
[15:47.000 --> 15:50.000]  All of them essentially the same record.
[15:50.000 --> 15:52.000]  So who do I promote?
[15:52.000 --> 15:55.000]  I said, well, this guy had the IG called on him.
[15:55.000 --> 15:58.000]  Apparently he can't handle his troops.
[15:58.000 --> 16:00.000]  He's out.
[16:00.000 --> 16:03.000]  He said, do I make my point?
[16:03.000 --> 16:07.000]  And everybody's kind of intimidated except me.
[16:07.000 --> 16:09.000]  I'd read the UCMJ.
[16:09.000 --> 16:15.000]  And he's looking out at us and I'm grinning from ear to ear.
[16:15.000 --> 16:22.000]  And he said, airman Kelton, it appears you got my point.
[16:22.000 --> 16:24.000]  Oh, sir, yes, sir.
[16:24.000 --> 16:28.000]  Airman Kelton, that was not the point I was trying to make.
[16:28.000 --> 16:29.000]  Oh, I understand, sir.
[16:29.000 --> 16:31.000]  I get your point perfectly, sir.
[16:31.000 --> 16:34.000]  He said, I was afraid of that.
[16:34.000 --> 16:43.000]  He's trying to tell us how bad it harms these guys because when it comes time for a promotion,
[16:43.000 --> 16:46.000]  how do we gauge which ones to promote?
[16:46.000 --> 16:48.000]  Oh, this guy's got a mark on his record.
[16:48.000 --> 16:50.000]  I got an excuse for throwing him out.
[16:50.000 --> 16:53.000]  Same thing with lawyers.
[16:53.000 --> 16:58.000]  Barb Riva says, are really bad news.
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[19:27.000 --> 19:32.000]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, ruleoflawradio, and we're talking to Adam in Texas.
[19:32.000 --> 19:41.000]  And Adam, over the break, I was actually thinking, and I got a headache.
[19:41.000 --> 19:49.000]  Now, actually, what I was thinking is I've been doing this show for over 10 years now,
[19:49.000 --> 20:01.000]  and I come across a lot of people out there who are pretty well read in their areas of knowledge.
[20:01.000 --> 20:09.000]  There are a lot of pro se researchers out there.
[20:09.000 --> 20:23.000]  I'm thinking about how we can put together a place where all these guys who have been researching law can come together and compare notes.
[20:23.000 --> 20:36.000]  In building this project that I'm building, I will have a way to monetize what we're doing.
[20:36.000 --> 20:41.000]  I can take all of these guys who are doing research, and the law is really complex.
[20:41.000 --> 20:53.000]  Most of the real credible pro se researchers out there are researching relatively limited areas of law.
[20:53.000 --> 20:58.000]  Most of us have our own stick.
[20:58.000 --> 21:05.000]  My stick is file criminal charges against them.
[21:05.000 --> 21:10.000]  Whatever, go after them. Put them in the courts criminally.
[21:10.000 --> 21:14.000]  Rod Klass, he goes to administrative courts.
[21:14.000 --> 21:19.000]  We've got a lot of people doing different things.
[21:19.000 --> 21:24.000]  I'd like to bring everybody together in one place.
[21:24.000 --> 21:27.000]  Facebook?
[21:27.000 --> 21:34.000]  Maybe Facebook. I don't use Facebook enough to know how well it works.
[21:34.000 --> 21:45.000]  I'm thinking more of a regular teleconference or an associated blog where we can compare notes.
[21:45.000 --> 21:56.000]  What I would like to collect from people are the tools they use, the documents they produce.
[21:56.000 --> 22:04.000]  I'm building a tool where anytime somebody comes across an effective argument.
[22:04.000 --> 22:12.000]  Most of these guys, for years, have come up with something they think is cool,
[22:12.000 --> 22:18.000]  and they try to take one thing and apply it to everything.
[22:18.000 --> 22:22.000]  That's seldom very effective.
[22:22.000 --> 22:31.000]  If we could put together a group where say you have a process for going after a particular thing.
[22:31.000 --> 22:38.000]  We take your procedures and your case law and the documents that you produce.
[22:38.000 --> 22:42.000]  We codify that into the system.
[22:42.000 --> 22:52.000]  I'm building a questionnaire where I just talked to somebody in North Carolina who's a law like you.
[22:52.000 --> 22:55.000]  He's fighting issues there and he was very knowledgeable.
[22:55.000 --> 23:08.000]  I want to take what he's doing and I asked him to imagine that you have someone who knows nothing about law but has an issue.
[23:08.000 --> 23:14.000]  It goes to the area you're knowledgeable about.
[23:14.000 --> 23:23.000]  How would you extract from that person the information you need to apply your remedy?
[23:23.000 --> 23:30.000]  What would be the first question you would ask that person?
[23:30.000 --> 23:40.000]  What answers do you expect?
[23:40.000 --> 23:43.000]  What answer do you expect?
[23:43.000 --> 23:46.000]  If you get a yes, what would be your next answer?
[23:46.000 --> 23:52.000]  I have a methodology for this and I can demonstrate the methodology to everybody.
[23:52.000 --> 24:05.000]  You ask them a question, you try to get a Boolean answer, a yes or no answer, and you assume they always answer yes.
[24:05.000 --> 24:11.000]  What would be the next question you would ask and assume they answered yes?
[24:11.000 --> 24:19.000]  When you get to the last question you would ask, I got 80% of your knowledge on this subject.
[24:19.000 --> 24:23.000]  When you get to the last question, back up one.
[24:23.000 --> 24:27.000]  Instead of saying yes, they say no.
[24:27.000 --> 24:29.000]  Then what would you ask?
[24:29.000 --> 24:36.000]  We follow that out on yeses only until you get to the last question.
[24:36.000 --> 24:38.000]  Then you back up again.
[24:38.000 --> 24:45.000]  You keep backing up and moving forward until you get back to the first question you asked.
[24:45.000 --> 24:49.000]  I got your entire knowledge on that subject matter.
[24:49.000 --> 24:55.000]  Then we take the other guys in the group and say, okay, look at this questionnaire we built.
[24:55.000 --> 24:58.000]  Where are there places you would ask a question?
[24:58.000 --> 25:01.000]  This guy didn't ask you.
[25:01.000 --> 25:06.000]  The thing that got me to do this originally is somebody called into my show.
[25:06.000 --> 25:14.000]  Deborah and I got together and we started putting together a questionnaire probably 12 years ago.
[25:14.000 --> 25:17.000]  We had no idea what we were doing.
[25:17.000 --> 25:24.000]  I had somebody call in one day and ask me if I knew what a Frank's hearing is.
[25:24.000 --> 25:27.000]  You know what a Frank's hearing is?
[25:27.000 --> 25:31.000]  Yeah, and Eddie Dragg's traffic seminar.
[25:31.000 --> 25:33.000]  Okay, then you know.
[25:33.000 --> 25:38.000]  I have never had a lawyer who knew what a Frank's hearing was.
[25:38.000 --> 25:51.000]  And for those who don't, a Frank's hearing is a hearing for the purpose of determining the veracity of a police officer who testified before a magistrate to secure a warrant.
[25:51.000 --> 25:56.000]  And when I looked it up, I said, holy crap, how could I ever have forgotten that?
[25:56.000 --> 25:58.000]  And I do this to lawyers.
[25:58.000 --> 26:00.000]  I tell them this.
[26:00.000 --> 26:03.000]  And every time I mention Frank's hearing, they have no idea what it is.
[26:03.000 --> 26:07.000]  And then I say, holy crap, how could I ever have forgotten that?
[26:07.000 --> 26:10.000]  And they're thinking, what is a Frank's hearing?
[26:10.000 --> 26:17.000]  And then I tell them and they think, holy crap, I've been missing that all this time.
[26:17.000 --> 26:18.000]  So I look at my questionnaire.
[26:18.000 --> 26:19.000]  I got this questionnaire.
[26:19.000 --> 26:20.000]  I said, were you arrested?
[26:20.000 --> 26:21.000]  Yes.
[26:21.000 --> 26:24.000]  Were you arrested for an on-site offense?
[26:24.000 --> 26:26.000]  No.
[26:26.000 --> 26:30.000]  Because 90% of the arrests are on-site offenses.
[26:30.000 --> 26:33.000]  And you say no instead of yes.
[26:33.000 --> 26:37.000]  Were you arrested on an existing warrant?
[26:37.000 --> 26:39.000]  Yes.
[26:39.000 --> 26:52.000]  Do you have, so I cracked the questionnaire apart and I put in there, do you have a reason to believe that the officer who testified before the magistrate to secure that warrant lied to the magistrate?
[26:52.000 --> 26:54.000]  But most of the time, they'll say no.
[26:54.000 --> 26:57.000]  But occasionally, they'll say yes.
[26:57.000 --> 27:05.000]  And if they say yes, Frank's hearing, we veer off, we ask all the questions you go through Frank's hearing, we come back, we keep going.
[27:05.000 --> 27:11.000]  When you're finished, the system will spit out a Frank's hearing.
[27:11.000 --> 27:17.000]  Part of the technology here is the system will create the documents.
[27:17.000 --> 27:22.000]  I want to see the documents you produce.
[27:22.000 --> 27:24.000]  And we'll put that over here.
[27:24.000 --> 27:42.000]  And then everywhere a piece of a fact or a piece of needed information exists in the document, we look at our questionnaire and where do we ask for that piece of information in the questionnaire.
[27:42.000 --> 27:48.000]  And when you ask for that and you get the information, the system will drop it into the document.
[27:48.000 --> 27:57.000]  So when you get through the questionnaire and get to the end, it'll take you to a page and has all these documents that produced.
[27:57.000 --> 28:08.000]  If one of the documents that's produced is one that you've created, then we pay you an override for that document.
[28:08.000 --> 28:15.000]  Well, I just know what platform we would use to accomplish this.
[28:15.000 --> 28:19.000]  Oh, it's not as hard as you think. This is really straightforward.
[28:19.000 --> 28:30.000]  Once you kind of get the feel of it, the questionnaire, I don't really care what all the facts are.
[28:30.000 --> 28:37.000]  The only facts I care about are those facts that go to legal elements.
[28:37.000 --> 28:46.000]  If you ever sit down in front of a lawyer and you start telling your story, he puts a legal pad there on his desk and he's got a pen,
[28:46.000 --> 28:52.000]  and you're telling your story and every once in a while he makes a note on his pad.
[28:52.000 --> 29:01.000]  What he's doing is every time you state something that goes to a legal element, he puts a note on the pad.
[29:01.000 --> 29:09.000]  The dirty rotten copper, he was mean to me, he did this, he did that, and then he slapped me.
[29:09.000 --> 29:15.000]  That goes to a legal element. All he cares about are those facts that go through legal elements.
[29:15.000 --> 29:18.000]  He's trying to find those.
[29:18.000 --> 29:23.000]  Well, problem is, he don't know what happens.
[29:23.000 --> 29:29.000]  He knows what the legal elements are, but he don't know what happened.
[29:29.000 --> 29:34.000]  The other guy, he knows what happened, but he don't know what's important.
[29:34.000 --> 29:40.000]  Often what's important is not clear to the novice.
[29:40.000 --> 29:47.000]  So, they do this little dance back and forth, trying to find the legal issues,
[29:47.000 --> 29:53.000]  or the elements that go to the particular issues they need to develop.
[29:53.000 --> 29:56.000]  Well, heck with that. Let's back up.
[29:56.000 --> 30:03.000]  Let's just ask for those elements.
[30:03.000 --> 30:08.000]  In Africa, there's a tiny wrap that would make a tasty snack for jackals and wildcats,
[30:08.000 --> 30:11.000]  but they won't touch him with a 10-foot pole.
[30:11.000 --> 30:15.000]  I've got to tap an Albrecht, and after the break, I'll tell you what his secret weapon is.
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[30:44.000 --> 30:49.000]  In Northeastern Africa, 20 creatures called crested rats can walk safely
[30:49.000 --> 30:51.000]  among the most voracious predators.
[30:51.000 --> 30:55.000]  They're slow and easy to catch, and apparently very appetizing.
[30:55.000 --> 30:57.000]  So, how do they survive?
[30:57.000 --> 31:00.000]  With one of the most ingenious defenses in the animal kingdom,
[31:00.000 --> 31:04.000]  they chew the roots and bark of a toxic plant called the acocanthera tree,
[31:04.000 --> 31:08.000]  then rub the saliva on a row of quills down their backs.
[31:08.000 --> 31:11.000]  When an enemy approaches, they expose their flanks invitingly.
[31:11.000 --> 31:17.000]  Predators either smell the poison in bolts or take a bite and soon fall dead from heart failure.
[31:17.000 --> 31:20.000]  The toxin you see comes from the poison arrow tree,
[31:20.000 --> 31:23.000]  the same one hunters once used to kill elephants.
[31:23.000 --> 31:48.000]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
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[33:24.000 --> 33:28.000]  Okay, we are back with Andy Kelton with Log Radio.
[33:28.000 --> 33:34.000]  Now with a break, I was trying to figure out how to explain this.
[33:34.000 --> 33:36.000]  We're talking to Adam in Texas.
[33:36.000 --> 33:42.000]  Adam, you've been researching the issue you're dealing with.
[33:42.000 --> 33:45.000]  What is the issue you're dealing with?
[33:45.000 --> 33:53.000]  The fact that when it comes to retusal or disqualification of a judge,
[33:53.000 --> 34:00.000]  whether it be municipal or just to the peace or county or district,
[34:00.000 --> 34:11.000]  it all goes back to Texas 1880.
[34:11.000 --> 34:16.000]  That's the Supreme Court, the Texas Rules of Court.
[34:16.000 --> 34:21.000]  Okay, you've researched this area.
[34:21.000 --> 34:25.000]  Now, I've got other areas that I've researched.
[34:25.000 --> 34:34.000]  And we get pro-says come into court and they've got areas they've researched.
[34:34.000 --> 34:43.000]  But the lawyer on the other side, he has a more general knowledge base.
[34:43.000 --> 34:56.000]  He's been to law school and he has a strategy and a skill in arguing legal issues.
[34:56.000 --> 35:03.000]  And then he's had experience so he has a lot of different tools he can drag out.
[35:03.000 --> 35:09.000]  You're a pro-say and while you may be very knowledgeable in one area,
[35:09.000 --> 35:18.000]  the lawyer is more generally knowledgeable and he can trip you up in legious stray.
[35:18.000 --> 35:23.000]  What do you know about how to bring objections?
[35:23.000 --> 35:25.000]  Oh, a little bit.
[35:25.000 --> 35:32.000]  I haven't had food on the ground experience with it, but I mean, I was looking into the...
[35:32.000 --> 35:35.000]  We got guys out there that are really good at that.
[35:35.000 --> 35:38.000]  Well, I hope one day I'll get there, you know.
[35:38.000 --> 35:48.000]  We want to take somebody who's really good at that and have them look at take what you do.
[35:48.000 --> 35:53.000]  Take the questions you would ask and how you would ask those questions.
[35:53.000 --> 36:01.000]  Take the questions you have experienced with lawyers asking and directions they tend to want to go in.
[36:01.000 --> 36:10.000]  And take the guy that knows how to do objections and say, okay, here, this is the objection you should bring here.
[36:10.000 --> 36:12.000]  This is the one you should bring here.
[36:12.000 --> 36:15.000]  And we can build a tool.
[36:15.000 --> 36:20.000]  This map that we're developing, you can follow the map.
[36:20.000 --> 36:22.000]  Yeah.
[36:22.000 --> 36:28.000]  It doesn't seem that way when you look at it from the surface because it looks too dynamic.
[36:28.000 --> 36:33.000]  Too many things are happening, but that's not actually the case.
[36:33.000 --> 36:36.000]  It is pretty structured.
[36:36.000 --> 36:40.000]  And while the lawyer may jump around in the map a little bit, we've pretty good...
[36:40.000 --> 36:42.000]  Well, we know where he's starting.
[36:42.000 --> 36:47.000]  We know where he has to go to to win his case.
[36:47.000 --> 37:00.000]  He may vary somewhat from it, but we can build a tool that will map out what the procedure essentially has to be.
[37:00.000 --> 37:02.000]  Now, we have all these tools here.
[37:02.000 --> 37:07.000]  We have the jury charges.
[37:07.000 --> 37:08.000]  Yeah.
[37:08.000 --> 37:10.000]  Yeah, we have all these tools.
[37:10.000 --> 37:13.000]  Jury charges are, they're the key.
[37:13.000 --> 37:15.000]  And most people don't understand that.
[37:15.000 --> 37:19.000]  To process, they don't understand jury charges are the key.
[37:19.000 --> 37:26.000]  So we can build a structure that takes each person's expertise,
[37:26.000 --> 37:30.000]  structure it into a set of questions or tools,
[37:30.000 --> 37:34.000]  and then set flags.
[37:34.000 --> 37:38.000]  If they do this, it pulls up this section.
[37:38.000 --> 37:41.000]  They do that, it pulls up this other section.
[37:41.000 --> 37:46.000]  We start accumulating prosaic knowledge.
[37:46.000 --> 37:51.000]  Prosaic knowledge is different than lawyers.
[37:51.000 --> 37:53.000]  It is much more powerful.
[37:53.000 --> 37:56.000]  It will make them crazy.
[37:56.000 --> 38:01.000]  Lawyers do what lawyers do.
[38:01.000 --> 38:09.000]  A lawyer is not going to come into court and bring an argument that the other lawyer is not going to know anything about.
[38:09.000 --> 38:11.000]  These guys all know each other.
[38:11.000 --> 38:13.000]  They work with each other all the time.
[38:13.000 --> 38:18.000]  And if you go into court and make another lawyer look like a chomp,
[38:18.000 --> 38:22.000]  he is going to be peo-ed at you.
[38:22.000 --> 38:27.000]  And you're going to lose standing in the lawyer community.
[38:27.000 --> 38:30.000]  And besides, that's not how lawyers work.
[38:30.000 --> 38:36.000]  How lawyers work is, is they want to get a retainer.
[38:36.000 --> 38:42.000]  They get your retainer and then they go into their files and they pull out a standard motion.
[38:42.000 --> 38:45.000]  They put your name on it as defendant.
[38:45.000 --> 38:47.000]  They sign it and they send it.
[38:47.000 --> 38:49.000]  Lawyer on the other side gets it.
[38:49.000 --> 38:51.000]  He's got it a hundred times.
[38:51.000 --> 38:58.000]  He pulls his pad answer out, puts his client's name on it, and sends it back.
[38:58.000 --> 39:04.000]  And then they both charge their client as if they created that motion from scratch.
[39:04.000 --> 39:07.000]  Well, you don't know anything about law.
[39:07.000 --> 39:10.000]  You think they created it from scratch.
[39:10.000 --> 39:18.000]  What they do is they get your retainer and then they do what Dr. Graves calls this flurry of motions.
[39:18.000 --> 39:23.000]  Back and forth, same motions these lawyers have seen a hundred times.
[39:23.000 --> 39:24.000]  They just sign and send.
[39:24.000 --> 39:26.000]  They charge you two or three hundred bucks.
[39:26.000 --> 39:28.000]  They deduct it from the retainer.
[39:28.000 --> 39:34.000]  When they use up all your retainer and they'll do that with these standard motions,
[39:34.000 --> 39:41.000]  then they'll come back to you and say, oh, you know, when I took the case, I thought we could win and it would be a piece of cake.
[39:41.000 --> 39:44.000]  Well, it turns out it's more difficult than we thought.
[39:44.000 --> 39:50.000]  So instead of a $3,000 retainer, I'm now going to need a $10,000 retainer.
[39:50.000 --> 39:55.000]  He doesn't want that $10,000 retainer.
[39:55.000 --> 40:02.000]  Because he don't have a set of pat motions to use to use up that retainer.
[40:02.000 --> 40:10.000]  He'll have to actually go do legal research and they do not want to do legal research.
[40:10.000 --> 40:17.000]  One thing is costly, uses up their time and two, their biggest fear is missing something.
[40:17.000 --> 40:24.000]  So they'd rather get rid of you, have you dumped them and then they go get another retainer.
[40:24.000 --> 40:27.000]  Law is a business.
[40:27.000 --> 40:31.000]  So it's all about making money.
[40:31.000 --> 40:41.000]  So my strategy is to use the tools at hand to kill the thing before it ever gets to trial.
[40:41.000 --> 40:44.000]  And there's so many tools to use to do that.
[40:44.000 --> 40:47.000]  They've never dragged me into the trials.
[40:47.000 --> 40:51.000]  I've never had to get knowledgeable on all the objections.
[40:51.000 --> 41:01.000]  I mean, that's still a good thing to know, but we're just so much at our disposal, even as a pro-says, to just jam them up.
[41:01.000 --> 41:02.000]  I mean, at every turn.
[41:02.000 --> 41:04.000]  That's my point.
[41:04.000 --> 41:11.000]  Pro-says have powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal attorneys.
[41:11.000 --> 41:13.000]  I agree, I agree.
[41:13.000 --> 41:28.000]  So now we take these tools that the pro-says have and we put them together in a structure so that when you need a tool, you have access to that tool.
[41:28.000 --> 41:36.000]  And we bring issues to bear that the lawyer doesn't have a set of pet motions to deal with.
[41:36.000 --> 41:41.000]  It will make them crazy.
[41:41.000 --> 41:58.000]  So I'll tell you one thing I figured out from my adventures is when you get a traffic ticket or something of that nature from municipality or something, you know, you drive through a town, you're not from, you get pulled over, you get a traffic ticket, you're going to haul you into court.
[41:58.000 --> 42:05.000]  What I figured out was, you know, they give you the appear on or before date.
[42:05.000 --> 42:09.000]  Well, show up, of course, on or before.
[42:09.000 --> 42:11.000]  Show up.
[42:11.000 --> 42:13.000]  What you do is you walk in there.
[42:13.000 --> 42:24.000]  And mostly municipalities, you never get to see the judge, even though the citation, you know, explicitly says you're supposed to appear before the magistrate.
[42:24.000 --> 42:49.000]  Let's see, it's 345.002. The officer who arrests you must take you directly to a magistrate or 006, you can sign a promise to appear before a magistrate, not a judge.
[42:49.000 --> 42:56.000]  These cities, especially around Texas, you know, you show up and you never get to see the magistrate.
[42:56.000 --> 43:03.000]  You just go in, you know, you get in there, there's a bunch of other dummies in there, you know, all sitting there scared to death.
[43:03.000 --> 43:09.000]  In line, you stand in line, eventually you come up, the only person you get to see is a clerk.
[43:09.000 --> 43:21.000]  So what I figured out was, when you finally get before the clerk, you know, the clerk, they usually behave as if they're the magistrate, but they're not.
[43:21.000 --> 43:22.000]  But we know that.
[43:22.000 --> 43:37.000]  So what they'll do is you sit down and the clerk will ask you, you know, first they'll, you know, they'll give you the money spiel about how much you owe and they just kind of expect you to just kind of hand the money over because you're presumed guilty until proven innocent.
[43:37.000 --> 43:41.000]  So what you do is, we've got the bumper music.
[43:41.000 --> 43:42.000]  I can hear it.
[43:42.000 --> 43:43.000]  Okay.
[43:43.000 --> 43:44.000]  Hang on.
[43:44.000 --> 43:47.000]  Randy Kelton, Rural Law Radio.
[43:47.000 --> 44:11.000]  We'll be right back.
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[46:27.000 --> 46:32.000]  Okay, we are back. Randy Calton, Rule of Law Radio, and we're talking to Adam in Texas.
[46:32.000 --> 46:39.000]  Okay, Adam, you go to the clerk, and the clerk stands in the place of the judge.
[46:39.000 --> 46:40.000]  Go ahead.
[46:40.000 --> 46:44.000]  Yeah, yeah, they'd love to presume that authority.
[46:44.000 --> 46:51.000]  But what I found out was what you do is they kind of, they got ahead of themselves.
[46:51.000 --> 46:58.000]  So what happens is you go in front of the clerk, and, you know, they'll, oh, you need to pay us this much money.
[46:58.000 --> 47:04.000]  You say, well, I don't have the money, or, you know, I'm not ready to pay.
[47:04.000 --> 47:08.000]  They'll say, well, then how do you please?
[47:08.000 --> 47:20.000]  Well, what I found out was the way they set up their computer system is to enter you into their computer system in the court on your appearance date.
[47:20.000 --> 47:23.000]  They really only have three options.
[47:23.000 --> 47:26.000]  Either you go in there and they ask you, how do you please?
[47:26.000 --> 47:29.000]  You can just say not guilty, guilty, or no contest.
[47:29.000 --> 47:40.000]  Well, if you just simply walk up there and, real nicely, you just say, well, ma'am, to the clerk, well, ma'am, I'm not prepared to make a plea today.
[47:40.000 --> 47:44.000]  They get real confused, and they don't know what to do.
[47:44.000 --> 47:54.000]  And the problem that they have is they have no means of entering you into their computer system because enter one of the three options.
[47:54.000 --> 48:03.000]  And so what they do have to do is they have to make like a handwritten note because you didn't enter a plea in the digital judges in there anyway.
[48:03.000 --> 48:06.000]  So he's not there to, you know, bully you or do anything like that.
[48:06.000 --> 48:18.000]  So they have to make like a handwritten note and you end up getting lost in the system and you never get in their computer and the next thing you know, you never hear from them again.
[48:18.000 --> 48:24.000]  That's one thing that happens.
[48:24.000 --> 48:34.000]  I've got a questionnaire that I haven't made public on my traffic site on that particular issue.
[48:34.000 --> 48:37.000]  It's crazy, man. It works. It works every time.
[48:37.000 --> 48:40.000]  I mean, you might hear from them a few years later or whatever when they go back.
[48:40.000 --> 48:45.000]  But by that time, statute of machinations, speed trial, that can all be brought up and you can just hammer these people.
[48:45.000 --> 48:58.000]  So that's one way to kind of just jam them up right off the bat because the way they created their system, they're expecting you like a dummy to walk in there and give one of the three options so they can enter it into that.
[48:58.000 --> 49:05.000]  What is, what is wrong with the clerk asking you for a plea?
[49:05.000 --> 49:07.000]  Well, she's not the magistrate.
[49:07.000 --> 49:09.000]  Exactly.
[49:09.000 --> 49:10.000]  Yeah.
[49:10.000 --> 49:14.000]  So, you know, I have a tool for that.
[49:14.000 --> 49:15.000]  Yeah.
[49:15.000 --> 49:18.000]  It asks this question, did the clerk ask you for a plea?
[49:18.000 --> 49:25.000]  If you answer yes, impersonating a judicial officer.
[49:25.000 --> 49:29.000]  The system will spit out a criminal complaint against the clerk.
[49:29.000 --> 49:31.000]  It asks you for the clerk's name.
[49:31.000 --> 49:39.000]  If you don't know the clerk's name, you put unknown, it'll put unknown clerk and it will spit out a criminal complaint.
[49:39.000 --> 49:40.000]  Yeah.
[49:40.000 --> 49:48.000]  And then if you do run into the judge and he says, you know, well, sir, I'm not prepared to make a plea today.
[49:48.000 --> 49:55.000]  Well, I'll just, I'll just enter in a plea of not guilty for you on your behalf.
[49:55.000 --> 49:56.000]  Got it?
[49:56.000 --> 50:01.000]  Well, what he's supposed to do, you're not, you're not appearing before a judge.
[50:01.000 --> 50:02.000]  Yeah.
[50:02.000 --> 50:03.000]  Okay.
[50:03.000 --> 50:09.000]  When a, I mean, I'm trying to think of how best to save us.
[50:09.000 --> 50:27.000]  When the judge asks you for a plea and he hasn't advised you of your rights and of the fact that you have a right to enter a statement before any evidence is presented against you, then he's not holding an examining trial.
[50:27.000 --> 50:39.000]  The only other thing he could be holding is a arraignment and what's wrong with holding an arraignment?
[50:39.000 --> 50:40.000]  What was it?
[50:40.000 --> 50:44.000]  They can't hold an arraignment on a class E fine only.
[50:44.000 --> 50:46.000]  Exactly.
[50:46.000 --> 50:51.000]  There's no, there's no provisions for that in the, in the statute.
[50:51.000 --> 50:56.000]  We will actually, it actually forbids it.
[50:56.000 --> 50:57.000]  Okay.
[50:57.000 --> 50:58.000]  Yeah.
[50:58.000 --> 51:03.000]  And arraignment, 26.01.
[51:03.000 --> 51:20.000]  And arraignment may be held in the matter of, and for those listening, this is Texas law, in the matter of a felony or a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment.
[51:20.000 --> 51:25.000]  I read that and thought, what in the world is going on?
[51:25.000 --> 51:38.000]  26.01, chapter 26, arraignment, first statute limits arraignments to felonies and misdemeanors punishable by imprisonment.
[51:38.000 --> 51:40.000]  So what the heck is this?
[51:40.000 --> 51:51.000]  Why did the legislature go to special trouble to specifically exempt class C misdemeanors?
[51:51.000 --> 52:00.000]  I have absolutely no idea why they did that, but they did that.
[52:00.000 --> 52:01.000]  Yeah.
[52:01.000 --> 52:10.000]  So when the judge asks you for a plea, first thing is you got to give them the ticket and identify yourself.
[52:10.000 --> 52:24.000]  26.02, an arraignment is held for the purpose of determining the identity of the accused and taking a plea.
[52:24.000 --> 52:29.000]  It makes no difference what they call what they're doing.
[52:29.000 --> 52:32.000]  It is what it is.
[52:32.000 --> 52:45.000]  If when you go to the clerk, they first determine your identity and then ask you for a plea, it is an arraignment.
[52:45.000 --> 52:49.000]  But they can't do that.
[52:49.000 --> 53:07.000]  So in a examining trial, 16.01 says the court must advise you of your rights, must advise you of your right to an examining trial and of your right to enter a statement before any evidence is entered in the court against you.
[53:07.000 --> 53:11.000]  If they didn't do that, it's not an examining trial.
[53:11.000 --> 53:17.000]  The only other thing it can be is an arraignment, but they can't hold an arraignment.
[53:17.000 --> 53:20.000]  What crime is that?
[53:20.000 --> 53:26.000]  That would be a piece of official capacity and official oppression.
[53:26.000 --> 53:28.000]  Simulating legal process.
[53:28.000 --> 53:31.000]  Oh yeah, that one too.
[53:31.000 --> 53:42.000]  So what the system will do, what the tool we're making will do is it will just spit those complaints out as a matter of course.
[53:42.000 --> 53:52.000]  And then we take guys who knows things about this that we don't know, who's looked at aspects of this in a way we haven't looked at it.
[53:52.000 --> 53:55.000]  Lawyers can't, they don't do this well.
[53:55.000 --> 53:58.000]  They can't be very creative.
[53:58.000 --> 54:00.000]  They're stuck inside this lawyer box.
[54:00.000 --> 54:02.000]  The process are not.
[54:02.000 --> 54:20.000]  So we take the process and we accumulate all these different things and I want to take the process who's developed methodologies, ways of going after particular issues and codified into the system.
[54:20.000 --> 54:30.000]  We ask questions that point toward this issue and then we ask the questions to develop the issue and then we move on.
[54:30.000 --> 54:33.000]  When the system's done, it spits the document out.
[54:33.000 --> 54:34.000]  It produces it.
[54:34.000 --> 54:45.000]  If the user clicks on the document, downloads it and pays for it, the one who produced it gets an overwrite.
[54:45.000 --> 54:56.000]  So we've got all of these pro se researchers out there who are struggling to pay their bills because most of them like me, we research all the time.
[54:56.000 --> 55:08.000]  We seldom get out of our house and we don't know how to talk to human beings and we struggle to pay our bills because we're a bunch of friggin' finesse.
[55:08.000 --> 55:10.000]  We're crazy about this.
[55:10.000 --> 55:15.000]  So let's find a way to monetize everybody.
[55:15.000 --> 55:22.000]  You spend all this time and trouble doing all this research and you develop this methodology.
[55:22.000 --> 55:28.000]  Let's monetize this thing. Let's make the methodology available to everybody.
[55:28.000 --> 55:33.000]  And then everybody who uses it, you get a small piece of that.
[55:33.000 --> 55:36.000]  Those small pieces add up, passive income.
[55:36.000 --> 55:41.000]  Then you can afford to do more comprehensive research.
[55:41.000 --> 55:50.000]  And what happens is, traffic, not so much, but in other areas of research,
[55:50.000 --> 55:56.000]  say DUI or other criminal cases or family law or probate law,
[55:56.000 --> 56:04.000]  I just had a speaking engagement in Florida on the corruption in the probate courts.
[56:04.000 --> 56:10.000]  We get these guys to develop their tools and we codify them into the system.
[56:10.000 --> 56:15.000]  And every time somebody uses it, they get paid some.
[56:15.000 --> 56:23.000]  Now we have a bunch of legal researchers out there who are researching things the lawyers won't touch.
[56:23.000 --> 56:28.000]  A problem the lawyer has is the client goes to our questionnaire,
[56:28.000 --> 56:35.000]  goes through the questionnaire and it spits out all of these issues the lawyer doesn't want to touch.
[56:35.000 --> 56:41.000]  However, the client brings them to the lawyer.
[56:41.000 --> 56:46.000]  And not only do we have these issues that the lawyer wouldn't touch,
[56:46.000 --> 56:54.000]  we also have a methodology for how to kick the lawyers behind when he doesn't address your issue.
[56:54.000 --> 56:59.000]  And you're becoming familiar with that, bar grievances.
[56:59.000 --> 57:05.000]  How many malpractice suits have you filed against lawyers?
[57:05.000 --> 57:07.000]  Zero.
[57:07.000 --> 57:12.000]  And what do you know about filing a malpractice suit against lawyers?
[57:12.000 --> 57:14.000]  I don't know.
[57:14.000 --> 57:18.000]  Yeah, I know next to zero. I know a little bit about it, but not a whole lot.
[57:18.000 --> 57:21.000]  We got guys out there who know how to do that.
[57:21.000 --> 57:27.000]  So we get those guys to show us how they craft their malpractice suits.
[57:27.000 --> 57:33.000]  And every time one's indicated, you just go to that part and walk through it,
[57:33.000 --> 57:39.000]  generate all the information you need, the system spits out a malpractice suit. Boom.
[57:39.000 --> 57:46.000]  And then when that starts happening, now the lawyer has plausible deniability.
[57:46.000 --> 57:50.000]  He goes to the judge and they have these T words they say.
[57:50.000 --> 57:55.000]  He goes to the judge and says, well, your honor, the court, in this case, said this.
[57:55.000 --> 58:00.000]  That's the lawyer advocating for his client.
[58:00.000 --> 58:07.000]  But if the lawyer goes to the judge and said, your honor, my client says this, my client says that.
[58:07.000 --> 58:13.000]  That's a key word for the judge saying, don't get mad at me about this.
[58:13.000 --> 58:19.000]  I got a no good rotten client who's forcing me to do this, so don't blame me.
[58:19.000 --> 58:24.000]  The lawyer has plausible deniability.
[58:24.000 --> 58:33.000]  So he can now actively adjudicate your case and not have to take responsibility for it.
[58:33.000 --> 58:35.000]  Yeah.
[58:35.000 --> 58:37.000]  Sound like fun?
[58:37.000 --> 58:42.000]  Hang on, about to go to break. Randy Kelsen, Wheel of Law Radio.
[58:42.000 --> 58:50.000]  I'll call in number 5126461984. We'll be right back.
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[01:00:10.000 --> 01:00:20.000]  Today in history, news updates and the inside scoop into the tides of the alternative.
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[01:00:54.000 --> 01:01:02.000]  Today in history, the year 1918, British women over the age of 30 who meet minimum property qualifications get the right to vote when the
[01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:09.000]  Representation of the People Act of 1918 was passed by Parliament today in history.
[01:01:09.000 --> 01:01:16.000]  In recent news, several Texas-based organizations filed a lawsuit today requesting that a federal court stop the state from flagging about
[01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:20.000]  95,000 people as potentially illegally registered to vote.
[01:01:20.000 --> 01:01:27.000]  The list was compiled after an 11 month long investigation by the office of the Texas Secretary of State and the Texas Department of Public
[01:01:27.000 --> 01:01:33.000]  Safety, which sought to identify non-U.S. citizens who were registered to vote when obtaining age-arbitage license.
[01:01:33.000 --> 01:01:41.000]  Over half of the 95,000 didn't indeed vote, it seems. However, further controversy was raised when it became clear that some of the names
[01:01:41.000 --> 01:01:45.000]  were not in fact belonging to those who were non-citizens and registered.
[01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:50.000]  Apparently, around 25% of all Latino immigrants become naturalized, gaining the right to vote.
[01:01:50.000 --> 01:01:57.000]  Registered voters who receive letters querying their citizenship have 30 days to respond with proof of eligibility.
[01:01:57.000 --> 01:02:04.000]  This is Attorney General Ken Paxton and David Whitley, the Texas Secretary of State, have yet to officially comment regarding this list
[01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:09.000]  and any updates pertaining to it.
[01:02:09.000 --> 01:02:17.000]  A Texas man of only 24 years old, William Brown, died from a severed artery in his neck after a vape pen exploded while he was using it.
[01:02:17.000 --> 01:02:21.000]  It apparently happened in the parking lot of the vape shop where he got it.
[01:02:21.000 --> 01:02:28.000]  The story revealed that a piece of metal was embedded in his brainstem. The vape store, Smoke and Vape DZ, has refused to comment.
[01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:37.000]  First edition anchorwoman, Kristen Diaz, interviewed Aislin Campbell, the executive director of Grow Local, South Texas,
[01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:41.000]  concerning the upcoming Texas Organic Farmers and Gardeners Association Conference,
[01:02:41.000 --> 01:02:47.000]  which will be taking place at the Corpus Christi Omni Hotel from February 14th to 16th, 6-9pm.
[01:02:47.000 --> 01:02:52.000]  You can find the interview at kiiitv.com.
[01:02:52.000 --> 01:03:21.000]  This is Rick Rody with your lowdown for February 6th, 2019.
[01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:32.000]  Okay, we are back. Randy Calton with us on radio and we're talking to Adam in Texas.
[01:03:32.000 --> 01:03:38.000]  And Adam, do you understand where I'm going?
[01:03:38.000 --> 01:03:41.000]  Yeah, I do understand where you're going.
[01:03:41.000 --> 01:03:46.000]  And I'd like to contribute to be a part of that, man.
[01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:56.000]  I'm a product of you and Deborah and Eddie. I started this in 2010 and y'all created me for sure.
[01:03:56.000 --> 01:03:59.000]  So it's all our fault.
[01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:09.000]  It's all your fault. Y'all created me and it's my hobby and I can't get enough of it, man. I love it because...
[01:04:09.000 --> 01:04:12.000]  It does have its benefits.
[01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:19.000]  When the lights come on behind me, I don't get that hollow feeling in the pit of my stomach anymore.
[01:04:19.000 --> 01:04:25.000]  I still get the adrenaline rush in my leg shake, but it's not out of fear. It's just out of...
[01:04:25.000 --> 01:04:30.000]  Anticipation. This is going to be fun. I got over that.
[01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:46.000]  I think I got over it when the third time I called 911 on the security at the Fort Worth courthouse and two of the deputies grabbed me by the arms, drugged me out the door,
[01:04:46.000 --> 01:04:50.000]  picked me up and threw me down on my face.
[01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:54.000]  Don't do it.
[01:04:54.000 --> 01:05:00.000]  I got a different... I'm trying to find... There are guys out there. There's a lot of guys out there.
[01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:07.000]  How do we bring them together and at the same time deal with their idiosyncrasies?
[01:05:07.000 --> 01:05:09.000]  Yeah.
[01:05:09.000 --> 01:05:17.000]  You don't have... You don't demonstrate those idiosyncrasies, but then again, you're not as focused on this.
[01:05:17.000 --> 01:05:29.000]  Your whole life is not this. Ralph Winruth is in Alaska. He lives in a motor home somewhere in Alaska.
[01:05:29.000 --> 01:05:34.000]  He probably doesn't get out of that motor home more than two or three times a week.
[01:05:34.000 --> 01:05:42.000]  All he does is research. He is a good researcher, but he don't know how to talk to human beings.
[01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:44.000]  Yeah.
[01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:53.000]  We get a lot of these guys and they have idiosyncrasies and I'm trying to figure out a way to bring these guys together.
[01:05:53.000 --> 01:06:00.000]  They're very... They're combative. They're used to fighting. They're taking on the system.
[01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:06.000]  They feel like they're David and Goliath.
[01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:11.000]  So they tend to be very combative, kind of like lawyers are.
[01:06:11.000 --> 01:06:26.000]  I'm trying to put together a group, a core group, that's not quite so idiosyncratic, that can help us take the guys who do really good research,
[01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:40.000]  but are kind of on a little bit on the lunatic fringe and bring them back from the fringe and move them into the mainstream and help to monetize these guys.
[01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:47.000]  Help get them some income so they can afford to do this and expose them.
[01:06:47.000 --> 01:06:58.000]  If I can take two lunatics and pit them against each other, they'll both kind of modify each other and find a middle ground.
[01:06:58.000 --> 01:07:00.000]  Yeah.
[01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:05.000]  So we've got a lot of them and all of them are well-meaning.
[01:07:05.000 --> 01:07:18.000]  Some of them are of a real pain in the neck. We had David Merlin on our show and he was so arrogant.
[01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:23.000]  I kept calling him Myrland and he'd say, Merlin, Merlin!
[01:07:23.000 --> 01:07:31.000]  And we went to break and Deborah said, you know you're pronouncing his name wrong and I said, yeah, I know.
[01:07:31.000 --> 01:07:37.000]  Because he was so annoying. I want to take those guys and not be annoyed by them.
[01:07:37.000 --> 01:07:41.000]  Part of the reason they're annoying is because they're so focused.
[01:07:41.000 --> 01:07:49.000]  Yeah. The thing that makes them difficult is the thing that makes them valuable.
[01:07:49.000 --> 01:07:55.000]  So I want to put together a venue where we can bring all these people together,
[01:07:55.000 --> 01:08:09.000]  keep them from trying to rip each other's throats out and give them a place where each person's value can be inserted into a single system.
[01:08:09.000 --> 01:08:19.000]  And then they can get paid for their time and their research.
[01:08:19.000 --> 01:08:29.000]  And then we take what the process you're coming up with and cram it down the lawyer's throats.
[01:08:29.000 --> 01:08:34.000]  10-4 of that. If we can figure out how to do that when we've got something.
[01:08:34.000 --> 01:08:42.000]  Okay. Well, I'm going to work on it. I've got two more callers. Will you send me an email?
[01:08:42.000 --> 01:08:47.000]  Yeah, I email you somewhat frequently these last few months.
[01:08:47.000 --> 01:08:51.000]  What's your email address?
[01:08:51.000 --> 01:08:59.000]  Uh, I'm Adam from Texas. I don't remember seeing Adam from Texas in my email.
[01:08:59.000 --> 01:09:09.000]  I punked that Texas range. I ran for office. I sent you all that stuff.
[01:09:09.000 --> 01:09:18.000]  Send me one. So I'll look at it in the morning and I'll look for it to make sure I remember which one it is.
[01:09:18.000 --> 01:09:27.000]  Okay. I want to start doing this. I've got Art in North Carolina. He just got me a guy.
[01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:31.000]  I asked Art to find me these legal researchers that were really good.
[01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:40.000]  And he sends me some Yehu out of Massachusetts. And he starts out by asking me,
[01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:46.000]  what was the definition of a state? I said, well, it's a sovereign nation.
[01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:51.000]  Oh, no, it's not. No, it's not. He's telling me the definition he made up.
[01:09:51.000 --> 01:09:56.000]  And I looked up the definition of state. It's a sovereign nation.
[01:09:56.000 --> 01:10:03.000]  I said, here's the definition. No, it's not. No, it's not. He had new definitions for everything.
[01:10:03.000 --> 01:10:10.000]  I'm not a person, Randy. I like to experiment and I find what works and I go with it.
[01:10:10.000 --> 01:10:13.000]  You know, I like practical real-world stuff.
[01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:23.000]  Yeah, I need real people. He hung up on me. Ralph Winner, he hung up on me.
[01:10:23.000 --> 01:10:33.000]  There's another way. Art was telling this guy about everybody he thought was really great, hung up on me.
[01:10:33.000 --> 01:10:43.000]  So I want to find some guys we can put together and put together a set of tools so that everybody can find remedies.
[01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:49.000]  So send me an email. I'll respond to you in the morning. I want to put together a group.
[01:10:49.000 --> 01:10:54.000]  I want you in it. All right. I'll see you right now, so you'll have it.
[01:10:54.000 --> 01:11:00.000]  Okay. Thank you, Adam. Okay, now we're going to go to Terrence in Florida. Hello, Terrence.
[01:11:00.000 --> 01:11:05.000]  Whoops, hold on. Okay, got you. What do you have for us today?
[01:11:05.000 --> 01:11:20.000]  Well, I wondered what you had for us today. Are you familiar with Laura Presley for the Ramford City Council for Austin and ended up winning in the Texas Supreme Court?
[01:11:20.000 --> 01:11:26.000]  Oh, Laura Presley? Absolutely. She is a sweetheart.
[01:11:26.000 --> 01:11:30.000]  Yeah, I'm very familiar with Laura Presley. We've had her on the show a number of times.
[01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:44.000]  And she would say in her case proves that there's nothing but liars and thieves, at least enforcing the law in Texas.
[01:11:44.000 --> 01:11:49.000]  And it might as well be around every state of the Union.
[01:11:49.000 --> 01:11:55.000]  Yeah, I think we need to elevate Laura Presley to sainthood.
[01:11:55.000 --> 01:12:06.000]  Yeah, she, you know, I just found out tonight that what she did was more, way more incredible than I thought.
[01:12:06.000 --> 01:12:19.000]  The court, in order to prevent her from challenging these corrupt voting machines, sanctioned her and her lawyer.
[01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:26.000]  And threatened her that if she appealed that the judge would increase the sanctions.
[01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:35.000]  Then she appealed to the anyway. And at the appellate level, the sanctions doubled.
[01:12:35.000 --> 01:12:38.000]  And she lost at the appellate level.
[01:12:38.000 --> 01:12:45.000]  At the, she appealed to the Supreme and it doubled again. So it's quadrupled.
[01:12:45.000 --> 01:12:50.000]  She had sanctions of three quarters of a million dollars.
[01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:55.000]  And she still fought them.
[01:12:55.000 --> 01:12:57.000]  That was incredible.
[01:12:57.000 --> 01:13:10.000]  What the incredible thing is, not one of them, government employees, is in jail for what they did to her and her husband and the entire population of Texas.
[01:13:10.000 --> 01:13:18.000]  He didn't move for that. And if she, if he were to ask me, and you know, you know who I am.
[01:13:18.000 --> 01:13:23.000]  I'm the one that says put him in jail, file against him.
[01:13:23.000 --> 01:13:29.000]  I would tell Laura Presley, do not file criminal charges against these guys.
[01:13:29.000 --> 01:13:45.000]  You had, she has created a position, the posture where he can do far more good lobbying for these changes than she can going after these guys criminally.
[01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:47.000]  Randy.
[01:13:47.000 --> 01:13:49.000]  Yes.
[01:13:49.000 --> 01:13:54.000]  The state should do it itself. She should not have to do it.
[01:13:54.000 --> 01:13:57.000]  Okay. You can do it.
[01:13:57.000 --> 01:14:00.000]  No, it should be automatic. It shouldn't have to.
[01:14:00.000 --> 01:14:05.000]  It should be. But when the world we live in, that's not the way it is.
[01:14:05.000 --> 01:14:07.000]  It takes guys like us.
[01:14:07.000 --> 01:14:16.000]  If you have knowledge that a crime has been committed and you don't report that crime.
[01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:20.000]  Well, if it's a felony and you don't report it, that's a crime.
[01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:21.000]  Right.
[01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:30.000]  Plus a misdemeanor. So the point is, if you can be charged criminally for not doing something.
[01:14:30.000 --> 01:14:31.000]  Randy.
[01:14:31.000 --> 01:14:37.000]  You are absolutely immune from any retribution if you do do something.
[01:14:37.000 --> 01:14:40.000]  Randy. Randy.
[01:14:40.000 --> 01:14:47.000]  She retrieved a crime. Her case was the reporting of a crime.
[01:14:47.000 --> 01:14:50.000]  And they did nothing to the criminals.
[01:14:50.000 --> 01:14:52.000]  I agree.
[01:14:52.000 --> 01:14:58.000]  So to say if she took them, she did take them.
[01:14:58.000 --> 01:15:14.000]  Okay. If she files criminal charges, that will eliminate her ability to act as a lobbyist to get changes introduced into the legislature.
[01:15:14.000 --> 01:15:23.000]  She will become a pariah. Nobody will touch her. It's 10 foot pole. But there's nothing to stop you from filing those complaints or me or anybody else.
[01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:26.000]  But I don't have firsthand knowledge.
[01:15:26.000 --> 01:15:28.000]  Who cares? You don't need it.
[01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:30.000]  She has first.
[01:15:30.000 --> 01:15:33.000]  No, you don't need it in a criminal complaint.
[01:15:33.000 --> 01:15:39.000]  Example, my next door neighbor comes to me and says, you know the guy that lives behind us.
[01:15:39.000 --> 01:15:44.000]  I saw him beat some guy to death in his backyard.
[01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:51.000]  But I'm terrified of this guy. I'm afraid that if I say anything, he'll come and kill me.
[01:15:51.000 --> 01:16:01.000]  I can go to the police and say, I have a reason to believe and do believe that this person behind me killed this person.
[01:16:01.000 --> 01:16:12.000]  And my reason to believe is that somebody else told me they personally witnessed it. I can file the complaint. I have standing.
[01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:19.000]  If you file those complaints, Laura Presley won't lose her standing.
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[01:19:24.000 --> 01:19:29.000]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Rural Law Radio, and we're talking to Terrence in Florida.
[01:19:29.000 --> 01:19:35.000]  And Terrence, I'm not trying to be difficult. I'm trying to make a really important point here.
[01:19:35.000 --> 01:19:42.000]  You know, we've been saying for a long time, you'll never win your case simply because you have the law and the facts on your side.
[01:19:42.000 --> 01:19:45.000]  To think so is naive.
[01:19:45.000 --> 01:19:50.000]  You will win your case if you have the politics on your side.
[01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:56.000]  And over the years, I've come to understand that it's not so much about the law.
[01:19:56.000 --> 01:19:58.000]  It's all about the politics.
[01:19:58.000 --> 01:20:03.000]  And I'm always thinking, how can we bring the politics to bear?
[01:20:03.000 --> 01:20:06.000]  Laura fought this fight.
[01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:09.000]  And I've been in one of those fights.
[01:20:09.000 --> 01:20:18.000]  I was, I represented myself and I was convicted and gave a year in prison and $10,000 fine.
[01:20:18.000 --> 01:20:24.000]  After 27 days in solitary confinement, I said, heck with this and went after him.
[01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:27.000]  And in two days, I was out.
[01:20:27.000 --> 01:20:32.000]  Laura has risked everything.
[01:20:32.000 --> 01:20:35.000]  And she's been in this fight for years.
[01:20:35.000 --> 01:20:44.000]  When I was, when they were coming after me and I was fighting them, I needed to write pleadings in my behalf.
[01:20:44.000 --> 01:20:48.000]  But it was incredibly difficult.
[01:20:48.000 --> 01:20:58.000]  It was so oppressive that I had to actually struggle and force myself to actually look at it and read the law and do what I needed to do.
[01:20:58.000 --> 01:21:01.000]  I was amazed at how difficult it was.
[01:21:01.000 --> 01:21:09.000]  If you haven't been in one of those situations, you have no idea the emotional toll it takes.
[01:21:09.000 --> 01:21:13.000]  And her and her husband got through all of this.
[01:21:13.000 --> 01:21:21.000]  She has created a posture for herself that is extremely powerful.
[01:21:21.000 --> 01:21:33.000]  She is in a position now that she can lead a charge to change things.
[01:21:33.000 --> 01:21:45.000]  But if she starts going after judges, then every one of these judges will back away from her because they'll be afraid if they don't do what she likes, she'll come after them.
[01:21:45.000 --> 01:21:52.000]  So what we need is some other people following behind her, kicking everybody's behind.
[01:21:52.000 --> 01:22:02.000]  And the only way they can keep these people from kicking everybody's behind is to get Laura to pull us off of them.
[01:22:02.000 --> 01:22:10.000]  So anybody who's really incensed about this, they can step up.
[01:22:10.000 --> 01:22:13.000]  They can file.
[01:22:13.000 --> 01:22:15.000]  You're in California.
[01:22:15.000 --> 01:22:19.000]  They can't get to you at all.
[01:22:19.000 --> 01:22:28.000]  You could file with impunity and just make them crazy.
[01:22:28.000 --> 01:22:31.000]  What do you think, Terrence?
[01:22:31.000 --> 01:22:34.000]  Well, I think I'd have to learn how to do that.
[01:22:34.000 --> 01:22:37.000]  That's what I do. That's what I can help you with.
[01:22:37.000 --> 01:22:48.000]  I would like to find some people from Texas because Texas is closer to them, but there's nothing worse than having a sharp shooter coming at you.
[01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:57.000]  You got these guys in Texas and they got some guy in Florida taking pock shots at them.
[01:22:57.000 --> 01:23:01.000]  There is no way to get to you.
[01:23:01.000 --> 01:23:09.000]  You're outside their jurisdiction and you're coming at them doing what you are absolutely allowed to do.
[01:23:09.000 --> 01:23:16.000]  When you file criminal charges, you become a protected class.
[01:23:16.000 --> 01:23:21.000]  You have the same immunity that a judge has.
[01:23:21.000 --> 01:23:33.000]  When I go in to file criminal charges against a public official, I'm pretty well known in Texas now, so they got really, really careful.
[01:23:33.000 --> 01:23:46.000]  If somebody says one word to me that I can in any way interpret as a threat, 911, had a bailiff tell me, oh, Mr. Kelton, you need to be careful.
[01:23:46.000 --> 01:23:51.000]  You can get in a lot of trouble. 911.
[01:23:51.000 --> 01:23:57.000]  I tell the operator, this was at the grand jury in Fort Worth.
[01:23:57.000 --> 01:24:05.000]  He said, I'm at the grand jury office in Fort Worth and I just had to file criminal charges against some public officials and I just had a bailiff threaten me.
[01:24:05.000 --> 01:24:08.000]  The bailiff is standing there, I didn't threaten you.
[01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:11.000]  That's not what you said.
[01:24:11.000 --> 01:24:15.000]  It's how I responded to what you said.
[01:24:15.000 --> 01:24:18.000]  And this is how it works.
[01:24:18.000 --> 01:24:22.000]  You take me like you find me.
[01:24:22.000 --> 01:24:27.000]  Let's say I have just been in a traumatic situation.
[01:24:27.000 --> 01:24:36.000]  Let's say I was stopped by a police officer and he took out his billy club and beat me half to death.
[01:24:36.000 --> 01:24:43.000]  And now I get in front of another police officer and he says something that I can take as aggressive.
[01:24:43.000 --> 01:24:50.000]  And I get terrified and I run away from him to get away from him and I fall down the stairs and break a leg.
[01:24:50.000 --> 01:24:52.000]  I sue him.
[01:24:52.000 --> 01:24:56.000]  He can say, well, I didn't do anything. All I did was say this.
[01:24:56.000 --> 01:25:01.000]  Well, the problem is, you take me like you find me.
[01:25:01.000 --> 01:25:12.000]  If because of what you said, I was terrified and ran over the stairs to get away from you and fell down the stairs, you're a fault.
[01:25:12.000 --> 01:25:14.000]  That's the way it works in law.
[01:25:14.000 --> 01:25:19.000]  So when the bailiff says to me, oh, Mr. Kelton, you really need to be careful.
[01:25:19.000 --> 01:25:22.000]  You can get in a lot of trouble. 9-1-1.
[01:25:22.000 --> 01:25:29.000]  I asked him to come and arrest the bailiff for threatening me for the purpose of shielding the accused from prosecution.
[01:25:29.000 --> 01:25:31.000]  Why didn't I threaten you?
[01:25:31.000 --> 01:25:34.000]  Sorry, Bubba. That's the way I took it.
[01:25:34.000 --> 01:25:37.000]  You have to deal with it the way I take it.
[01:25:37.000 --> 01:25:41.000]  You are a protected class.
[01:25:41.000 --> 01:25:51.000]  They can't say one word to you without winding up with criminal charges against them.
[01:25:51.000 --> 01:25:55.000]  What do you think, church?
[01:25:55.000 --> 01:25:59.000]  Oh, wait a minute. Hold on. We lost Terrence.
[01:25:59.000 --> 01:26:01.000]  I was busy watching the clock.
[01:26:01.000 --> 01:26:08.000]  Okay, we lost Terrence. Let's go to Danny in Texas.
[01:26:08.000 --> 01:26:10.000]  Hello, Danny.
[01:26:10.000 --> 01:26:12.000]  Well, I'm in Tennessee.
[01:26:12.000 --> 01:26:15.000]  I'm sorry. You were in Texas. Now you're in Tennessee.
[01:26:15.000 --> 01:26:17.000]  It wasn't. Yeah.
[01:26:17.000 --> 01:26:20.000]  You were a redneck. Now you're a hillbilly.
[01:26:20.000 --> 01:26:27.000]  Oh, yeah. I sent you a document a little while back and you had trouble opening it.
[01:26:27.000 --> 01:26:30.000]  Were you able to open the later ones I sent?
[01:26:30.000 --> 01:26:32.000]  Yeah, I did.
[01:26:32.000 --> 01:26:40.000]  I read it and I had an issue with it at the moment. I don't remember what that was.
[01:26:40.000 --> 01:26:42.000]  I have to go back and reread it.
[01:26:42.000 --> 01:26:45.000]  Give me the gist of the document again.
[01:26:45.000 --> 01:26:49.000]  Well, dealing with the definition of vehicle.
[01:26:49.000 --> 01:26:58.000]  And by the way, I read it. There's two ways by which a car or the general term they use in the definition is device.
[01:26:58.000 --> 01:27:05.000]  The definition here says vehicle means every device in a bone which or by which.
[01:27:05.000 --> 01:27:10.000]  Whoa, whoa. Where does it mean that?
[01:27:10.000 --> 01:27:12.000]  What do you think?
[01:27:12.000 --> 01:27:16.000]  Title 55 of the Tennessee Code.
[01:27:16.000 --> 01:27:20.000]  Okay. That's what I needed. Tennessee.
[01:27:20.000 --> 01:27:28.000]  While you're talking, go ahead. I'm going to pull up a document out of Massachusetts.
[01:27:28.000 --> 01:27:38.000]  Who sent it to me? Have you seen the House bill out of Massachusetts on the right to travel?
[01:27:38.000 --> 01:27:40.000]  No.
[01:27:40.000 --> 01:27:46.000]  I'm trying to remember who sent it to me. It's in the email.
[01:27:46.000 --> 01:27:52.000]  Massachusetts. It's a House bill that I don't know if it's been passed or not.
[01:27:52.000 --> 01:27:58.000]  I've heard of it before, but they defined all of these issues.
[01:27:58.000 --> 01:28:01.000]  Hold on. I know where I said it. I got it in the sky because I sent it.
[01:28:01.000 --> 01:28:07.000]  I was doing a show with Pastor Massad the other day and I sent it to him.
[01:28:07.000 --> 01:28:11.000]  Pastor Massad's a hard man.
[01:28:11.000 --> 01:28:17.000]  He picks on me because I'm old. I should charge him with elder abuse.
[01:28:17.000 --> 01:28:22.000]  I'm having trouble with the sky. Anyway, go ahead. I'll find it while you're talking.
[01:28:22.000 --> 01:28:34.000]  All right. I'll start again. Vehicle means every device in a bone or by which any person or property is or maybe transported or drawn upon a public highway,
[01:28:34.000 --> 01:28:42.000]  accepting devices moved by human power are used exclusively on stationary rails or tracks.
[01:28:42.000 --> 01:28:52.000]  By the way, I read this. This definition is given two different ways that a device is considered a vehicle.
[01:28:52.000 --> 01:29:07.000]  It either actually is being used to transport person or property or permission has been obtained for it to be used that way
[01:29:07.000 --> 01:29:17.000]  because definition of may is to be permitted to.
[01:29:17.000 --> 01:29:25.000]  Is it actually being used that way or it's permitted to be used that way?
[01:29:25.000 --> 01:29:37.000]  I would think that the way that it's indicated as permitted to is through the registration.
[01:29:37.000 --> 01:29:51.000]  Is it there still? Okay. Let's see. House bill 1778 FNA local as introduced to 18 session.
[01:29:51.000 --> 01:29:58.000]  House bill 1778. Okay.
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[01:33:25.000 --> 01:33:35.000]  Okay, we are back.
[01:33:35.000 --> 01:33:41.000]  Randy Kelton of Rule of Law Radio and I've got my caller page buried.
[01:33:41.000 --> 01:33:44.000]  I've got to dig it out before I do this.
[01:33:44.000 --> 01:33:50.000]  We'll get back to Danny in a second since I can dig out my caller page.
[01:33:50.000 --> 01:34:00.000]  I was doing some research getting ready for this, but I've lost him. Where'd I put him?
[01:34:00.000 --> 01:34:05.000]  Oh my goodness, I've lost him. Oh, there we go. I found it. Okay.
[01:34:05.000 --> 01:34:08.000]  There you go. Okay, Danny, you're there.
[01:34:08.000 --> 01:34:16.000]  I was reading to you a house bill out of Massachusetts. You're going to like this.
[01:34:16.000 --> 01:34:20.000]  Automobile. Okay. Statement of purpose.
[01:34:20.000 --> 01:34:29.000]  The general courts finds that the authority of the Department of Safety is limited to only the commercial users of the public ways,
[01:34:29.000 --> 01:34:36.000]  and that the corporate state employees have by their silence failed to fully inform the sovereign people of the state
[01:34:36.000 --> 01:34:44.000]  that the automobile has been confirmed by the court justice grimes by court.
[01:34:44.000 --> 01:34:53.000]  I'm sorry. By Chief Justice Grimes in 108, New Hampshire, I said Massachusetts, this looks like New Hampshire,
[01:34:53.000 --> 01:35:09.000]  386 to be private property defined by current RSA 382-89-109 as household goods and consumer goods not for commercial use for profit again.
[01:35:09.000 --> 01:35:18.000]  Further, the courts have found that corporate public servants who ignore their accountability as mandated in Article 8,
[01:35:18.000 --> 01:35:25.000]  New Hampshire Bill of Rights, have by their silence and failure to fully inform the sovereign people.
[01:35:25.000 --> 01:35:36.000]  The consequences arising from the corporate offer to contract is deemed silent deception and inducement by fraud.
[01:35:36.000 --> 01:35:52.000]  For the purposes of this section automobile and motorcycle means any self-propelled conveyance used for noncommercial travel upon the public ways.
[01:35:52.000 --> 01:36:05.000]  Motor vehicle means any self-propelled, self-propelled conveyance designed and used upon the public ways for profit or gain in business or commerce.
[01:36:05.000 --> 01:36:22.000]  Household goods or consumer goods has the same meaning as the uniform commercial code found at RSA 382-A-9-102 and shall include an automobile.
[01:36:22.000 --> 01:36:35.000]  Automobile and all noncommercial conveyances shall be exempt from the license and registration required of commercial motor vehicles.
[01:36:35.000 --> 01:36:48.000]  Operator or driver means one who controls the movement of a conveyance upon the public way for commercial or business purposes.
[01:36:48.000 --> 01:36:57.000]  Traveller means one who controls the automobile or other noncommercial conveyance.
[01:36:57.000 --> 01:37:16.000]  Common law means the sole remedy for any controversy arising from or by the public use of household goods or consumer goods such as an automobile or other noncommercial conveyance.
[01:37:16.000 --> 01:37:45.000]  Section 2, the Department of Safety shall provide at no cost every noncommercial automobile owner or owner of an other noncommercial conveyance with an appropriate decal imprinted with the words RSA 382-A-9-109.
[01:37:45.000 --> 01:38:05.000]  Exempt. The division of motor vehicles shall also issue all noncommercial traveler a photo identification card at no cost with the words RSA 382-A-9-109 except exempt.
[01:38:05.000 --> 01:38:32.000]  Printed on such identification card, this identification card is not a contract or a license or instrument that would require compelled performance by the holder and shall provide every law enforcement agency with notice of the holder's exemption from the statutes that are required for the commercial use of the public way for profit or gain.
[01:38:32.000 --> 01:38:36.000]  Is that cool or what?
[01:38:36.000 --> 01:38:42.000]  Yeah, that's kind of in the line of what I was getting to in this.
[01:38:42.000 --> 01:38:46.000]  Okay, go ahead. I thought you would like to hear that considering.
[01:38:46.000 --> 01:38:53.000]  Yeah, I did. I did, especially that that was a court case that you cited there once.
[01:38:53.000 --> 01:39:00.000]  Send me an email asking for that and I will send this to you.
[01:39:00.000 --> 01:39:05.000]  Okay, that sounds good.
[01:39:05.000 --> 01:39:09.000]  I would like to see this in every state.
[01:39:09.000 --> 01:39:34.000]  It's my position that the legislatures of each state could have passed the transportation code into the public law so that it would apply to everyone who operated a self-propelled, propelled conveyance on the public affairs.
[01:39:34.000 --> 01:39:43.000]  They could have done that, but they did not do that. Not one state has done that.
[01:39:43.000 --> 01:39:59.000]  If they intended that the transportation code should apply to non-commercial drivers, they would have passed laws to that effect, but they did not.
[01:39:59.000 --> 01:40:10.000]  But until they do, they don't apply and this bill can now be used as precedent.
[01:40:10.000 --> 01:40:16.000]  We can use it under good faith and credit.
[01:40:16.000 --> 01:40:24.000]  The state of New Hampshire has addressed, the state legislature of New Hampshire has addressed this issue.
[01:40:24.000 --> 01:40:32.000]  Okay, let me step back. I say it has addressed this issue. This is a house bill.
[01:40:32.000 --> 01:40:43.000]  So what I don't know at this point is if this house bill has been passed into substantive law.
[01:40:43.000 --> 01:40:56.000]  Whether it has been passed into substantive law or not, it certainly can be used to address the issue of commercial versus non-commercial.
[01:40:56.000 --> 01:41:10.000]  If it has been passed into substantive law, then it can be brought into another state who has not addressed this issue under good faith and credit.
[01:41:10.000 --> 01:41:20.000]  Because the states hold that. All states trust the legislature of all other states.
[01:41:20.000 --> 01:41:39.000]  If a state has addressed an issue that this state has not addressed, you can bring that issue into this state under good faith and credit because they trust the legislature of the other state.
[01:41:39.000 --> 01:41:43.000]  Does that make sense?
[01:41:43.000 --> 01:41:55.000]  And this is a beautiful way of saying to the court, here's the issue, guys, and it explains it very well.
[01:41:55.000 --> 01:41:57.000]  Okay, go ahead, Danny.
[01:41:57.000 --> 01:42:11.000]  Well, yeah, he's talking about transportation that, you know, in this definition of vehicle, it refers to transport, be transported. Okay, that's just an action in transportation.
[01:42:11.000 --> 01:42:16.000]  Okay, that was a problem I had with the document you sent me.
[01:42:16.000 --> 01:42:38.000]  It only had transport. It didn't have a definition of transport that supported what you're claiming. When you say what transport means, you need to find a specific legally accepted definition of transport.
[01:42:38.000 --> 01:42:45.000]  Generally, transport means commercial. But do they have that defined in Tennessee as commercial?
[01:42:45.000 --> 01:42:56.000]  Well, they have transportation has been. So this is just the contraction of transportation.
[01:42:56.000 --> 01:42:57.000]  Right.
[01:42:57.000 --> 01:43:12.000]  Can you make that implication? Transportation to transport.
[01:43:12.000 --> 01:43:24.000]  Well, I look for that a little bit, but I don't find transport specifically defined in the Tennessee code from what I've looked so far are in black sloths.
[01:43:24.000 --> 01:43:32.000]  The transportation is the transport being a.
[01:43:32.000 --> 01:43:38.000]  I should know my grammar better. I should know exactly what to call transport to transportation.
[01:43:38.000 --> 01:43:48.000]  What's the grammatical difference to transport the active transportation?
[01:43:48.000 --> 01:43:55.000]  Okay, I'm not. It's been too long since I had your grammar.
[01:43:55.000 --> 01:44:00.000]  You have to look that up there. We could probably find that in grammar to show exactly that easier.
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[01:46:15.000 --> 01:46:38.000]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, rule of law radio, and we're talking to Danny in Tennessee.
[01:46:38.000 --> 01:46:53.000]  Transitive. Transportation is an intransitive verb that is a nominalization. It's a verb turned into a noun.
[01:46:53.000 --> 01:47:18.000]  Transportation is a transitive verb to transport or transport something that needs a modifier, but they essentially have the same meaning as to move something from one place to another.
[01:47:18.000 --> 01:47:24.000]  But it needs more than that. That's not enough, but essentially the root word is the same.
[01:47:24.000 --> 01:47:36.000]  So, I guess we could go back to your argument so I can re-center here. I've been looking at too many different things. I'm losing my place.
[01:47:36.000 --> 01:47:52.000]  This gives two conditions by which they describe as a device or a car or something, have a legal status, not a physical property, but a legal status of vehicle.
[01:47:52.000 --> 01:48:04.000]  And that is that it's actually being used to transport persons or property, or it has obtained permission to be used that way.
[01:48:04.000 --> 01:48:22.000]  We need a definition of transport that would address commercial and non-commercial. Does transport mean to move persons or property for hire?
[01:48:22.000 --> 01:48:41.000]  Well, that's one point. My ideal is if what you're doing is not actually, well, you kind of need a commercial connection there for transport.
[01:48:41.000 --> 01:48:57.000]  In the New Hampshire code, we had that commercial connection, but in Tennessee, the definitions were not clear as concerns commerce and not commerce.
[01:48:57.000 --> 01:49:09.000]  Well, not for transport, but it does have another place where specifically it puts transportation as a part of commerce.
[01:49:09.000 --> 01:49:13.000]  Okay, where does it have that? What's the context of it?
[01:49:13.000 --> 01:49:26.000]  Well, it's over in the chapter, I think, for driver's license, but then I have to go look it up to actually tell you exactly where. But I remember that.
[01:49:26.000 --> 01:49:34.000]  Okay, if you're moving your household goods, is that transporting?
[01:49:34.000 --> 01:49:36.000]  Well, I wouldn't say so.
[01:49:36.000 --> 01:49:46.000]  No, we can't do that. We need something in law that says one way or another.
[01:49:46.000 --> 01:49:55.000]  We can't arrive at a legal determination based on what we perceive a term to mean.
[01:49:55.000 --> 01:50:06.000]  I just had this problem with the UCC code where I had a term in there and I was talking to Leslie from Arizona.
[01:50:06.000 --> 01:50:13.000]  And I said the word was not defined in the code and she said, well, I think it means this.
[01:50:13.000 --> 01:50:26.000]  So I went and looked it up and on the definition I found in Webster, it wasn't what she thought it was.
[01:50:26.000 --> 01:50:45.000]  I remember in grade school teachers telling us that if you're reading something and you come across a word you don't know what it means, you can look at the context of the paragraph or the section and pretty well determine what it means.
[01:50:45.000 --> 01:50:48.000]  So I tested that once.
[01:50:48.000 --> 01:50:54.000]  I decided what I thought something meant based on the context and then I looked it up.
[01:50:54.000 --> 01:51:01.000]  I was not correct not even one time.
[01:51:01.000 --> 01:51:11.000]  You can't guess what that term means. You need, especially in law, we need a legal definition of transport.
[01:51:11.000 --> 01:51:17.000]  I'm not being, you know, derived from transportation or the other way around.
[01:51:17.000 --> 01:51:25.000]  The derivative is not, that's not clear enough.
[01:51:25.000 --> 01:51:38.000]  Tennessee, meaning of transport.
[01:51:38.000 --> 01:51:47.000]  I didn't find anything. I was looking for hoping that something in Tennessee law would give a meaning of transportation.
[01:51:47.000 --> 01:51:52.000]  Tennessee, Carolina, transportation. I'm not finding anything.
[01:51:52.000 --> 01:51:56.000]  We can't just guess. That's the problem.
[01:51:56.000 --> 01:52:09.000]  If the term is not defined, then the use of the term becomes target.
[01:52:09.000 --> 01:52:18.000]  Isn't that a cool term? Somebody used that once in a sentence and I said that's absolutely ludicrous. Nobody knows what target means.
[01:52:18.000 --> 01:52:23.000]  They grow unclear. I had to look it up.
[01:52:23.000 --> 01:52:34.000]  Okay, we can get there from here. We have to have a definition of transportation as it relates to commerce.
[01:52:34.000 --> 01:52:44.000]  Oh, well, I know it's in there because I've come across. I just don't know if I've got it here handy where I'm looking right now.
[01:52:44.000 --> 01:53:01.000]  Okay, 5550-102, commerce means a trade, traffic, and transportation within a jurisdiction of the United States between a place in a state.
[01:53:01.000 --> 01:53:05.000]  Whose definition is this? Where does the definition come from?
[01:53:05.000 --> 01:53:08.000]  Tennessee Code, 5550.
[01:53:08.000 --> 01:53:11.000]  Okay, then transportation is going on commerce.
[01:53:11.000 --> 01:53:13.000]  What?
[01:53:13.000 --> 01:53:16.000]  Transportation is included in commerce.
[01:53:16.000 --> 01:53:20.000]  Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
[01:53:20.000 --> 01:53:25.000]  We did good for Hillbilly. Okay, read that again.
[01:53:25.000 --> 01:53:42.000]  Okay, commerce means a trade, traffic, and transportation within a jurisdiction of the United States between a place in a state and a place outside of the state, including a place outside the United States.
[01:53:42.000 --> 01:53:52.000]  And trade, traffic, and transportation in the United States that affects any trade, traffic, and transportation in subdivision 90, which was the one just before.
[01:53:52.000 --> 01:54:00.000]  Okay, they still are using the term transportation in the definition of commerce.
[01:54:00.000 --> 01:54:11.000]  Transportation can, based on that definition, transportation can be commercial, but it's not necessarily commercial.
[01:54:11.000 --> 01:54:15.000]  We need a better definition of transportation.
[01:54:15.000 --> 01:54:26.000]  Well, I'll tell you, another weird thing about these codes right through here, where they define state, it kind of put it all through.
[01:54:26.000 --> 01:54:36.000]  Adding things to it where it includes it all, boils down to, means Washington, D.C., in a territory of the United States.
[01:54:36.000 --> 01:54:42.000]  Well, that doesn't help us, because that's essentially a federal.
[01:54:42.000 --> 01:54:47.000]  I'm just talking about that. Yeah, that's supposed to be the Tennessee Code.
[01:54:47.000 --> 01:54:48.000]  Yeah.
[01:54:48.000 --> 01:54:54.000]  And this is what they're applying to your traffic tickets and stuff.
[01:54:54.000 --> 01:55:17.000]  It's not clear enough. We can't rely on a implied definition of transportation as commercial, because the definition of commercial uses the term transportation doesn't necessarily mean that transportation is necessarily commercial.
[01:55:17.000 --> 01:55:31.000]  It can be commercial, but it doesn't necessarily have to be commercial. We need a better definition of transportation in order to make an argument that transportation is necessarily commercial.
[01:55:31.000 --> 01:55:34.000]  That makes sense.
[01:55:34.000 --> 01:55:38.000]  Well, yeah, but I'm not sure I see it that way.
[01:55:38.000 --> 01:55:55.000]  Well, we can't just say we believe that transportation is commercial. We need something that says transportation is specific to commerce.
[01:55:55.000 --> 01:56:07.000]  It's there somewhere. This is something that has been addressed. It's almost certainly going to be in the case law.
[01:56:07.000 --> 01:56:15.000]  Go on a search engine and put in Tennessee Transportation Commercial.
[01:56:15.000 --> 01:56:19.000]  See what you get a hit on.
[01:56:19.000 --> 01:56:23.000]  Okay. Well, I've used mostly as Google Scholar.
[01:56:23.000 --> 01:56:31.000]  I hate Google Scholar. It always sends me to Klein and Klein always wants me to sign up and do all kind of extra garbage.
[01:56:31.000 --> 01:56:37.000]  I never use it. I quit using it all together. I get better results without it.
[01:56:37.000 --> 01:56:41.000]  Ken, you just dropped off. I was about to go to you.
[01:56:41.000 --> 01:56:46.000]  The kid from New York has been on. He's been waiting. He just dropped off.
[01:56:46.000 --> 01:56:48.000]  Well, there's only five minutes left.
[01:56:48.000 --> 01:56:51.000]  Yeah.
[01:56:51.000 --> 01:56:58.000]  But five more minutes on transportation will give me a headache unless we have something definitive.
[01:56:58.000 --> 01:57:03.000]  I've been wanting, I just talked to Art Patton in North Carolina.
[01:57:03.000 --> 01:57:16.000]  And he was talking about a judge in Chattanooga that these people are driving around with license plates that says not in commerce.
[01:57:16.000 --> 01:57:26.000]  And the judge has been ruling in their favor saying that they're not in commerce. Are you familiar with that, Danny?
[01:57:26.000 --> 01:57:33.000]  Well, I've seen some things like that, but I'm not familiar with that one in particular.
[01:57:33.000 --> 01:57:46.000]  Okay. Apparently there's one judge that was ruling in that, ruling on that area claiming that the commerce issue.
[01:57:46.000 --> 01:57:59.000]  It would be nice to have that because I want to develop, I'm looking at starting up the traffic site and start taking on traffic.
[01:57:59.000 --> 01:58:05.000]  Just as a demonstration of my product, I have most of the questionnaires built for that.
[01:58:05.000 --> 01:58:12.000]  I have a massive amount of questionnaires. I have all of due process and due process goes to traffic.
[01:58:12.000 --> 01:58:17.000]  Most, the vast majority of all the stops are traffic.
[01:58:17.000 --> 01:58:23.000]  And so I'm trying to get that set up, but I need more specific information on the traffic in each state.
[01:58:23.000 --> 01:58:29.000]  But I am out of time. We are about to run out. This is Randy Kelton.
[01:58:29.000 --> 01:58:36.000]  We was on radio and thank you, Danny. And we need to work on getting the traffic site up.
[01:58:36.000 --> 01:58:40.000]  We might start making some money on it and make the courts crazy.
[01:58:40.000 --> 01:58:50.000]  We'll be back next Thursday on our regular show. Thank you all for listening and good night.
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