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[00:37.960 --> 00:44.040]  Today in History, the year 1974 Nelson Rockefeller sworn in as Vice President of the United States
[00:44.040 --> 00:48.440]  under President General Ford via provisions of the 25th Amendment to the United States
[00:48.440 --> 00:49.440]  Constitution.
[00:49.440 --> 00:57.120]  Today in History, in recent news, State Rep Republican Phil King is in the process of
[00:57.120 --> 01:03.080]  filing a bill clarifying the Anti-BDS, Boycott, Divestments and Sanctions Bill, House Bill
[01:03.080 --> 01:07.120]  89, signed by Governor Greg Abbott in May of 2017.
[01:07.120 --> 01:11.160]  According to Representative King, the law's intent was not to allow for tax dollars to
[01:11.160 --> 01:15.480]  be used to support an economic boycott against Israel, which is the state's fourth largest
[01:15.480 --> 01:16.680]  trading partner.
[01:16.680 --> 01:20.760]  The need for clarification comes after a former Fluggerville Independent School District
[01:20.760 --> 01:24.480]  speech pathologist filed a federal complaint about an addendum.
[01:24.480 --> 01:29.120]  In her contract requiring her to pledge she wouldn't boycott Israel, which she was obliged
[01:29.120 --> 01:30.120]  to sign.
[01:30.120 --> 01:33.760]  Representative King made it clear that the purpose of the follow-up bill was to quote
[01:33.760 --> 01:38.240]  to simply clarifying the bill that it applies to enterprises, to businesses, to companies,
[01:38.240 --> 01:43.360]  to pension funds, that it doesn't apply to small individuals who are doing single contracts
[01:43.360 --> 01:48.240]  such as this lady in Fluggerville.
[01:48.240 --> 01:52.600]  A new report commissioned by the Senate Intelligence Committee conducted by New Knowledge, a security
[01:52.600 --> 01:57.000]  company that tracks online misinformation, examined Russian digital propaganda efforts
[01:57.000 --> 02:00.080]  over a two-year period since January 2015.
[02:00.080 --> 02:04.000]  Their findings are alleging that apparently the Internet Research Agency, the Russian
[02:04.000 --> 02:08.840]  company accused of meddling in U.S. politics via Internet trolls on social media, was busy
[02:08.840 --> 02:13.800]  sharing links from sites including Breitbart, The Daily Caller and The Washington Examiner,
[02:13.800 --> 02:16.640]  giving them the upper hand due to extra exposure.
[02:16.640 --> 02:21.240]  In addition to this report, the University of Oxford's Computational Propaganda Project
[02:21.240 --> 02:26.080]  in partnership with the social media data firm, Graphica, also published findings on
[02:26.080 --> 02:31.280]  the IRA's work dating back to 2016, apparently uncovering that popular Second Amendment and
[02:31.280 --> 02:36.400]  Texas Secessionist pages on Facebook, which had huge sways on voter sentiments, were also
[02:36.400 --> 02:40.080]  allegedly run by Russian bots and online trolls.
[02:40.080 --> 02:44.600]  Senator Mark Warren of Virginia, the committee's top Democrat, characterized the report as
[02:44.600 --> 02:46.120]  a quote, wake-up call.
[02:46.120 --> 02:50.360]  I hope these reports will spur legislative action in the Congress and provide additional
[02:50.360 --> 02:54.080]  clarity to the American public about Russia's assault on our democracy.
[02:54.080 --> 03:19.080]  This was Rick Rodney with the Lowdown for December 19, 2018.
[03:19.080 --> 03:45.320]  We
[03:45.320 --> 03:54.880]  Okay, but this, if I have a lawyer who's really out of control, that's great.
[03:54.880 --> 03:58.360]  Ken Magnuson's brother is a lawyer.
[03:58.360 --> 04:02.880]  And I was in Mansfield, Texas, and he called me, Ken called me and said, what were you
[04:02.880 --> 04:05.040]  doing in Mansfield yesterday?
[04:05.040 --> 04:07.360]  Minding my business, Tim.
[04:07.360 --> 04:13.760]  He said, my brother said that that police officer told him you were agitated.
[04:13.760 --> 04:21.600]  I said, Ken, ask your brother to ask that officer, I don't know if I said this, but
[04:21.600 --> 04:31.120]  Ken's brother was the attorney for Mansfield, Texas, he was the municipal attorney.
[04:31.120 --> 04:38.080]  Ask him to ask that officer if I got agitated before I told him to take his chicken suit
[04:38.080 --> 04:41.240]  off or after.
[04:41.240 --> 04:42.600]  And he said, you asked him that?
[04:42.600 --> 04:48.360]  I said, I always ask him that, and that's exactly why I asked him that.
[04:48.360 --> 04:54.760]  And he said, I told Craig, did you have a way of putting them over the edge?
[04:54.760 --> 04:57.360]  And that's the idea.
[04:57.360 --> 05:06.360]  If I got a lawyer who wears their emotions at the end of their sleeve, oh, wonderful.
[05:06.360 --> 05:08.440]  I will put them over the edge.
[05:08.440 --> 05:14.000]  That's exactly the opportunity that Roger Jones gave me.
[05:14.000 --> 05:19.800]  Once I told him I'd pull that wild hair out of his behind for him, how's he going to raise
[05:19.800 --> 05:20.800]  an issue?
[05:20.800 --> 05:23.840]  How's he going to deal with me?
[05:23.840 --> 05:26.400]  I'll make a laughing stock out of him.
[05:26.400 --> 05:32.240]  Are you going to go tell somebody that I told him that I'd pull the wild hair out of his
[05:32.240 --> 05:33.400]  behind for him?
[05:33.400 --> 05:35.440]  How's that going to look?
[05:35.440 --> 05:45.440]  So if I can get an attorney who's or an officer or anyone who is acting outside the cultural
[05:45.440 --> 05:53.840]  norms of civility, oh, wonderful, oh, look at the ammunition you give me.
[05:53.840 --> 05:57.040]  Okay, I keep interrupting you.
[05:57.040 --> 05:58.920]  I have too much fun with this.
[05:58.920 --> 06:06.960]  Okay, so I was in the deposition and I asked just a few questions and this woman's all
[06:06.960 --> 06:07.960]  over me.
[06:07.960 --> 06:14.640]  She says, you know, objection for the form of the way you ask a question and just objecting
[06:14.640 --> 06:17.200]  over everything.
[06:17.200 --> 06:21.680]  So the deposition got shut down early.
[06:21.680 --> 06:26.280]  So I'm figuring my next move, okay, here's one of the problems.
[06:26.280 --> 06:31.640]  This was the last week for discovery, discovery ended today.
[06:31.640 --> 06:34.320]  Oh, God, oh, wonderful.
[06:34.320 --> 06:37.560]  She denied your discovery.
[06:37.560 --> 06:43.640]  So you go to the court and because of the outrageous behavior of this lawyer, you were
[06:43.640 --> 06:52.000]  denied discovery or okay, hold on, do I file sanctions?
[06:52.000 --> 06:59.600]  So back to, I guess I should address how discovery works first.
[06:59.600 --> 07:07.480]  This was initial discovery and it's kind of a standard tactic for lawyers in a discovery
[07:07.480 --> 07:18.080]  is to deny everything so you have to go to the court and ask the court to order discovery.
[07:18.080 --> 07:26.360]  So this is the last day of voluntary discovery is when I take it, okay, let me back up for
[07:26.360 --> 07:35.600]  everybody else and explain when you go into court, discoveries is a civil process and
[07:35.600 --> 07:41.320]  they expect civility between the partners between the participants.
[07:41.320 --> 07:49.800]  So each party asks the other party to provide them the information that they need and the
[07:49.800 --> 07:57.520]  courts expect the parties to be civil with one another and in the interest of judicial
[07:57.520 --> 08:07.440]  economy provide discovery to one another outside the judicial context.
[08:07.440 --> 08:15.800]  But if the parties don't provide discovery outside the judicial context, then you have
[08:15.800 --> 08:21.720]  to come to the judiciary and ask them to order discovery.
[08:21.720 --> 08:30.680]  So this lawyer is just doing the standard, deny you everything and force the judge to
[08:30.680 --> 08:34.000]  rule on everything.
[08:34.000 --> 08:38.880]  And if the lawyer was particularly obnoxious, did you have all this recorded?
[08:38.880 --> 08:42.680]  Well, yeah, we had a court recorder there.
[08:42.680 --> 08:46.480]  Oh, wonderful, did you have a video there?
[08:46.480 --> 08:48.880]  No, we didn't have a video.
[08:48.880 --> 08:54.720]  Okay, never, ever go to a deposition unless you take your own video.
[08:54.720 --> 08:59.920]  Did you video the proceedings?
[08:59.920 --> 09:04.520]  This woman would have denied it.
[09:04.520 --> 09:05.520]  Flatter.
[09:05.520 --> 09:06.520]  Maybe it wasn't.
[09:06.520 --> 09:10.520]  Well, yeah, I mean, she wouldn't even let my assistant do that.
[09:10.520 --> 09:17.000]  No, no, wait, wait, wait, you're talking about this lawyer?
[09:17.000 --> 09:22.760]  The lawyer would not let my assistant sit at the conference table.
[09:22.760 --> 09:25.680]  Okay, you understand.
[09:25.680 --> 09:28.880]  You don't work for that lawyer.
[09:28.880 --> 09:31.000]  He has no such power.
[09:31.000 --> 09:36.280]  You tell the lawyer, get out of here, get lost.
[09:36.280 --> 09:39.320]  You can do that.
[09:39.320 --> 09:44.040]  She has no power to decide who sits for this deposition.
[09:44.040 --> 09:46.440]  You are not my mama.
[09:46.440 --> 09:50.680]  You don't want this is my deposition, not your deposition.
[09:50.680 --> 09:51.680]  You don't like it.
[09:51.680 --> 09:52.680]  Get out.
[09:52.680 --> 09:58.360]  You don't let these guys push you around.
[09:58.360 --> 10:01.720]  Yeah, I mean, I was, I was blindsided here.
[10:01.720 --> 10:06.680]  I was, you know, I just figured we were going to end into a halfway civil thing.
[10:06.680 --> 10:14.240]  And I just, I mean, I was at this woman was that is to be expected on civil behavior from
[10:14.240 --> 10:23.440]  lawyers is not something you should expect and you have no duty to expect on civil behavior.
[10:23.440 --> 10:31.520]  So you should petition the judge to give you another opportunity for discovery and ask her
[10:31.520 --> 10:39.640]  to sanction the lawyer for uncivil behavior and make sure you bargraver and send the law
[10:39.640 --> 10:46.880]  firm a tort letter and ask them to pay you for your time and whoever was with you for
[10:46.880 --> 10:56.760]  their time that you came to this dissent, this deposition in good faith and this lawyer
[10:56.760 --> 11:04.400]  acted outrageously and cost you your time as the law firm to repay you for the time
[11:04.400 --> 11:06.840]  you lost.
[11:06.840 --> 11:14.360]  They will not be happy because they will see a lawsuit coming at them and they'll have
[11:14.360 --> 11:18.880]  to notify their errors in emissions.
[11:18.880 --> 11:27.080]  So I need to petition the court so I can redo the deposition file.
[11:27.080 --> 11:34.560]  Do I mention sanctions inside of this petition or do I motion for sanctions separately inside
[11:34.560 --> 11:37.720]  the petition or inside the petition?
[11:37.720 --> 11:38.720]  Okay.
[11:38.720 --> 11:46.080]  And give me a hint, what's the name of my filing going to be, a petition for?
[11:46.080 --> 11:56.080]  Motion for extended time for discovery and use this, the accusations against, I'm sorry,
[11:56.080 --> 12:02.080]  not extended enlargement of time for discovery and use the assertions against the lawyer
[12:02.080 --> 12:11.400]  as grounds for the enlargement of time and ask for sanctions against the lawyer.
[12:11.400 --> 12:17.880]  And then write up a tort letter and send it to the law firm that you came to this deposition
[12:17.880 --> 12:24.160]  in good faith, you brought assistance with you in good faith and this lawyer acted in
[12:24.160 --> 12:35.320]  bad faith and denied you your right to discovery and asked the law firm to compensate you for
[12:35.320 --> 12:37.320]  your time and cost.
[12:37.320 --> 12:45.160]  And of course, they're going to refuse, but that tells them you're going to sue them.
[12:45.160 --> 12:51.800]  So you want to come in and be smart mouth with me, I'll just embroil you in more litigation
[12:51.800 --> 12:55.800]  that you can't be compensated for.
[12:55.800 --> 13:01.440]  You don't get to bill a client for this because this is your bad behavior and it'll go against
[13:01.440 --> 13:03.880]  your errors and emissions policy.
[13:03.880 --> 13:04.880]  Okay.
[13:04.880 --> 13:14.920]  And just for clarification, can I ask the judge, when I go for this, the motion for
[13:14.920 --> 13:23.200]  time, can I ask the judge to order the attorney to pay for the next deposition?
[13:23.200 --> 13:26.200]  That's what the sanctions are about, yeah.
[13:26.200 --> 13:27.200]  Okay.
[13:27.200 --> 13:28.200]  Okay.
[13:28.200 --> 13:39.040]  Just for clarification, you can ask the judge for anything so long as you can provide reasonable
[13:39.040 --> 13:58.120]  cause, the way motions work is there are procedures for filing motions, but courts can, the possibilities
[13:58.120 --> 14:06.240]  of the things that can occur in court are endless, way too, there's way too many possibilities
[14:06.240 --> 14:10.120]  for the law to cover every one of them.
[14:10.120 --> 14:18.280]  So in a motion, you can ask the judge to do anything that you can show reasonable causes
[14:18.280 --> 14:20.240]  to why he should do it.
[14:20.240 --> 14:29.960]  There's no rules, there's no hard and fast line about what you can ask the judge for.
[14:29.960 --> 14:35.200]  So if someone's acted improperly and they've acted improperly in a way that, you know, reasonable
[14:35.200 --> 14:40.000]  people would never do this kind of garbage and you just want to expect it.
[14:40.000 --> 14:42.680]  So it's not going to be written in law.
[14:42.680 --> 14:48.640]  So you just tell the judge, this is unreasonable and ask the judge to compensate you for it.
[14:48.640 --> 14:54.520]  Because you came in good faith, you brought assistance with you in good faith and she
[14:54.520 --> 14:56.520]  acted in bad faith.
[14:56.520 --> 14:57.520]  Okay.
[14:57.520 --> 15:02.880]  And then one other thing is this attorney started telling me, she says, you can't ask
[15:02.880 --> 15:09.440]  questions, you know, in this question and that question, because the judge has ordered
[15:09.440 --> 15:16.440]  you to throw out some of these claims you made and you only have one claim left and
[15:16.440 --> 15:19.600]  that's all you can ask questions about is that claim.
[15:19.600 --> 15:22.600]  Is she your lawyer?
[15:22.600 --> 15:24.600]  No, no, no.
[15:24.600 --> 15:27.760]  No, she's giving you legal advice.
[15:27.760 --> 15:39.800]  I asked the question, if you want to object to the question, knock yourself out.
[15:39.800 --> 15:44.760]  But you're not coming in here telling me what questions I can ask.
[15:44.760 --> 15:49.880]  And you know, that's the argument you make to the judge that she denied you in discovery
[15:49.880 --> 15:55.680]  because even though the judge had ruled one way or the other, in discovery, you may discover
[15:55.680 --> 16:03.280]  evidence to show that the ruling needs to be changed or overturned.
[16:03.280 --> 16:07.920]  Oh, okay.
[16:07.920 --> 16:13.800]  So the lawyer is asserting or purported to exert an authority they don't have.
[16:13.800 --> 16:18.000]  Okay, this is strictly civil.
[16:18.000 --> 16:22.600]  So this lawyer has no authority whatsoever.
[16:22.600 --> 16:34.840]  So if you get another deposition, you instruct the lawyer, if you have a specific objection
[16:34.840 --> 16:41.040]  stated on the record, otherwise keep your mouth shut.
[16:41.040 --> 16:45.640]  This is my deposition, not yours.
[16:45.640 --> 16:50.200]  And if you need legal advice, you will ask for legal advice.
[16:50.200 --> 17:03.880]  Hang on, go on the break, Randy Kelton, we'll be right back.
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[19:00.600 --> 19:29.720]  Okay, we are back, Randy Helton, ruleoflaw radio and we're talking to Larry in Arizona.
[19:29.720 --> 19:41.120]  Okay, this lawyer ought to provide for you endless fun.
[19:41.120 --> 19:50.000]  They don't understand how vulnerable they are and, you know, you're in a civil case
[19:50.000 --> 19:53.200]  and they expect civility.
[19:53.200 --> 20:00.600]  When a lawyer is uncivil, is this a very attractive woman?
[20:00.600 --> 20:02.640]  Not to me, but maybe to some people.
[20:02.640 --> 20:11.720]  Okay, and a lot of times we get that, they use that as a way to get away with a lot.
[20:11.720 --> 20:21.440]  I was at the Williamson County Courthouse and I put in an information request and they
[20:21.440 --> 20:28.720]  sent out this lawyer, she looked like she was in her mid-twenties, she was dressed like
[20:28.720 --> 20:42.000]  a prostitute, mini skirt, really big breasts, really low cut blouse, six inch heels.
[20:42.000 --> 20:43.000]  I was offended.
[20:43.000 --> 20:52.240]  Now I'm a guy and I appreciate a good looking girl as much as the next guy does, but this
[20:52.240 --> 20:59.040]  is business, this is serious business and for a prosecuting attorney to be dressed like
[20:59.040 --> 21:09.200]  a prostitute, oh, when I got done with her, she was not happy and I think she thought
[21:09.200 --> 21:16.800]  that because she was a pretty woman, she could use that to manipulate me with and she probably
[21:16.800 --> 21:23.960]  manipulated all the men around her with that, frankly, I was offended by it and when I got
[21:23.960 --> 21:26.640]  done with her, she was not happy.
[21:26.640 --> 21:36.680]  I'm going into all the details, but I appreciate pretty women, but not when they use that to
[21:36.680 --> 21:48.920]  unreasonable advantage and something's odd about someone who would be as offensive as
[21:48.920 --> 21:58.920]  you've indicated she was, she almost certainly had other issues going on, they didn't have
[21:58.920 --> 22:05.080]  anything to do with what's going on here and if you highlight, you bring that out, other
[22:05.080 --> 22:11.680]  people will notice it and it'd probably be good for her if you bring this out in something
[22:11.680 --> 22:18.560]  minor rather than have this kind of behavior or cause or something to happen that costs
[22:18.560 --> 22:26.560]  her bar card, like trying to pull this on a judge or something.
[22:26.560 --> 22:38.520]  Yeah, the other reason this woman has attitude, she's a former cop, yeah, cop turn to turny.
[22:38.520 --> 22:45.080]  Oh, so she's still used to pushing people around, oh, exactly.
[22:45.080 --> 22:50.040]  There's nothing I like better than pattern interruption.
[22:50.040 --> 22:55.560]  Look at their patterns, look at what they do in an interrupter, she's a cop, then best
[22:55.560 --> 23:00.280]  thing to do is order her around, sit in there, shut your mouth, I need you, I'll summon
[23:00.280 --> 23:06.400]  you until then, keep your mouth shut, do you understand, oh, that'd be great.
[23:06.400 --> 23:17.840]  Anyway, that kind of behavior, that won't carry her very far in her profession as a lawyer
[23:17.840 --> 23:22.160]  and you can help her get over it, but that'll also look good for you when you take that
[23:22.160 --> 23:30.880]  to the judge, but okay, that issue aside, the lawyer has no power, this is civil case,
[23:30.880 --> 23:36.640]  the lawyer has no power whatsoever, has no say over anything and the best thing would
[23:36.640 --> 23:43.120]  have been for you to tell her, you keep your mouth shut, other than raising objection to
[23:43.120 --> 23:49.600]  a question, you keep your mouth shut if I need anything from you, I will ask you, if
[23:49.600 --> 23:59.360]  she proceeds after that, then you stop the deposition and you go to the court and ask
[23:59.360 --> 24:00.360]  for sanctions.
[24:00.360 --> 24:07.280]  Okay, and so when I asked the question and she objects to it, does the officer still
[24:07.280 --> 24:10.360]  have to answer the question?
[24:10.360 --> 24:11.360]  Generally yes.
[24:11.360 --> 24:12.360]  Okay.
[24:12.360 --> 24:17.960]  Just tell the officer, objections noted, answer the question.
[24:17.960 --> 24:18.960]  Okay.
[24:18.960 --> 24:28.600]  If she tells him not to answer the question, then you stop the deposition because the court
[24:28.600 --> 24:35.640]  can strike the answer, you know, unless it's, you know, did you beat your wife this morning?
[24:35.640 --> 24:44.200]  There are certain things, you sit from, put yourself in the policeman's position and you're
[24:44.200 --> 24:48.760]  sitting there and someone asks you a question, has nothing to do with the subject matter
[24:48.760 --> 24:59.320]  before the court, don't answer it and if you don't answer it, then the whoever is asking
[24:59.320 --> 25:06.240]  the question will have to go to the court and ask the court to order you to answer it.
[25:06.240 --> 25:08.760]  Did you have your questions written?
[25:08.760 --> 25:09.760]  Yes.
[25:09.760 --> 25:10.760]  Perfect.
[25:10.760 --> 25:16.360]  Then were you able to go through all of your questions?
[25:16.360 --> 25:24.280]  Oh no, I had to, I paired them down to about 25%, she just objected, objected.
[25:24.280 --> 25:33.920]  Oh, let her object, ask them anyway and, you know, you just set the record for appeal.
[25:33.920 --> 25:38.720]  Did she state the nature of the objection to each one?
[25:38.720 --> 25:44.240]  Yes, sometimes it was form, sometimes I forget what her other objection was, I'd have to
[25:44.240 --> 25:49.480]  go back and look at my notes, but yes, it was one that's in the rules, but it really
[25:49.480 --> 25:52.480]  didn't apply.
[25:52.480 --> 25:57.720]  For each one, she does that, I would file a bar grievance, for each one.
[25:57.720 --> 26:05.720]  Okay, you're in Arizona, I'm not sure how the bar works in Arizona.
[26:05.720 --> 26:10.320]  In Texas, they want to take all your grievances, treat them as one and then treat them as an
[26:10.320 --> 26:13.320]  inquiry.
[26:13.320 --> 26:21.720]  So I always send them a whole stack of grievances, each issue I have is in a separate grievance.
[26:21.720 --> 26:28.000]  If there are a number of actions that occur at one time, I don't put them all together
[26:28.000 --> 26:36.320]  in one grievance, each separate action I put in a separate grievance makes it much more
[26:36.320 --> 26:39.400]  difficult for them.
[26:39.400 --> 26:47.680]  Okay, beyond that, is that the only issue you had was the deposition?
[26:47.680 --> 26:49.280]  I have one more question for you.
[26:49.280 --> 26:53.320]  Okay, I'm into a property tax battle.
[26:53.320 --> 27:00.000]  The county treasurer has sold the lien on the ranch, and at what point do I file the
[27:00.000 --> 27:01.000]  lawsuit?
[27:01.000 --> 27:04.120]  When am I damaged?
[27:04.120 --> 27:16.120]  Okay, I don't know that you are damaged yet, but when you try to pay the, if the sale was
[27:16.120 --> 27:21.480]  improper, it's hard to say.
[27:21.480 --> 27:28.880]  You could claim your damage once they sold a claim against your property.
[27:28.880 --> 27:34.680]  I'm not as familiar, technically familiar with property tax.
[27:34.680 --> 27:41.160]  When they sell the tax, well, they're selling the tax lien.
[27:41.160 --> 27:47.800]  So if the tax lien is filed in the record, when the tax lien is created, then the harm
[27:47.800 --> 27:48.880]  occurs.
[27:48.880 --> 27:50.120]  Okay.
[27:50.120 --> 27:59.560]  So it attaches, so you can go ahead and take action.
[27:59.560 --> 28:03.000]  Okay, that's all I need then, Randy.
[28:03.000 --> 28:06.640]  Okay, but have fun with that attorney.
[28:06.640 --> 28:09.920]  You will probably help her career.
[28:09.920 --> 28:19.040]  Yeah, at some point she needs to, you know, someone to let her know that she's not a police
[28:19.040 --> 28:25.880]  person anymore, that here you don't get to bully people around and they don't have to
[28:25.880 --> 28:26.880]  respond.
[28:26.880 --> 28:32.760]  You have to do everything you say, they can land on you like a ton of bricks, and I suspect
[28:32.760 --> 28:37.160]  a good bar grievance or two will get her attention.
[28:37.160 --> 28:39.360]  Okay, good.
[28:39.360 --> 28:40.360]  Okay.
[28:40.360 --> 28:41.360]  Thank you, Larry.
[28:41.360 --> 28:42.360]  Okay.
[28:42.360 --> 28:45.920]  Now we're going to go to Tony in Pennsylvania.
[28:45.920 --> 28:47.080]  Hello, Tony.
[28:47.080 --> 28:49.360]  What do you have for us today?
[28:49.360 --> 28:51.720]  How are you doing, Randy?
[28:51.720 --> 28:52.720]  I'm doing good.
[28:52.720 --> 28:53.720]  Okay.
[28:53.720 --> 28:56.240]  First of all, can you hear me okay?
[28:56.240 --> 28:58.240]  I can hear you just fine.
[28:58.240 --> 28:59.240]  Great.
[28:59.240 --> 29:01.640]  I want to thank you, by the way, with your mom.
[29:01.640 --> 29:03.880]  I wonderful what a pistol she is.
[29:03.880 --> 29:04.880]  That's awesome.
[29:04.880 --> 29:07.160]  Oh, you have no idea.
[29:07.160 --> 29:13.520]  I bought this, she just revels in sneaking up on me.
[29:13.520 --> 29:18.560]  I had my desk turned around so she could sneak up behind me, so I reversed it so I could
[29:18.560 --> 29:19.560]  see her coming.
[29:19.560 --> 29:24.320]  But when I'm working, I don't see her, so she just revels in sneaking up and peeking
[29:24.320 --> 29:26.920]  around the corner and sitting there and staring at me.
[29:26.920 --> 29:29.920]  So I bought a light with a light sensor on it.
[29:29.920 --> 29:35.160]  Oh, it makes her crazy.
[29:35.160 --> 29:41.880]  I was on the air with the pasta mass and she sneaked in on me and the light went off and
[29:41.880 --> 29:45.760]  she said, oh, crap, and you could hear it go out over the radio.
[29:45.760 --> 29:51.520]  And then she came in and I was laughing at her and telling her over there, mom, don't
[29:51.520 --> 29:53.040]  you hear me with that tumor forward.
[29:53.040 --> 29:56.000]  She's picked up this piece of tumor forward and threatened me.
[29:56.000 --> 29:57.000]  Oh, it was wonderful.
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[33:03.160 --> 33:29.320]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelsen with our radio, and we're talking to Tony in Pennsylvania
[33:29.320 --> 33:57.040]  and
[33:57.040 --> 34:03.280]  packed up my toolbox, went home, packed up a suitcase, put it in the car, I was in Chicago
[34:03.280 --> 34:11.720]  at the time, and headed south. When I got to Key West, I was frustrated that I had
[34:11.720 --> 34:21.760]  ran out of road. I somehow felt like I wasn't far enough away. And then 40 years later,
[34:21.760 --> 34:27.840]  I'm still a thousand miles from home. I could never go home. And then mom got in a serious
[34:27.840 --> 34:35.520]  condition and she needed somebody to take care of, so I dropped what I was doing and
[34:35.520 --> 34:42.080]  went to Tennessee to take care of her. It seemed like I was sacrificing a whole lot
[34:42.080 --> 34:51.440]  to do that. Well, it turned out I didn't sacrifice a thing. That was an incredible opportunity.
[34:51.440 --> 34:57.200]  And I got to reconnect with my family and got to know my mom again. And she turned out
[34:57.200 --> 35:05.760]  to be one of the most pleasant human beings that I've ever known. And she's got this short-term
[35:05.760 --> 35:14.120]  memory loss. This can be frustrating because she's on a four-minute clock. She sits down
[35:14.120 --> 35:19.480]  for four minutes. She completely forgets everything. She starts all over again. So she comes into
[35:19.480 --> 35:24.040]  the office here where I'm trying to work and she says, are you hungry? I said, no, mom,
[35:24.040 --> 35:28.480]  I'm not hungry. I already ate. Oh, I just wanted to make sure you weren't hungry. And
[35:28.480 --> 35:34.360]  she talks for two minutes. And then she walks back to the chair where she sits. She sits
[35:34.360 --> 35:41.520]  down for four minutes and a clock resets. And it takes her two minutes to get back.
[35:41.520 --> 35:55.920]  Are you hungry? Every 10 minutes all day long. What is a good exercise for? It can get frustrating.
[35:55.920 --> 36:00.960]  But then again, she has short-term memory loss. So I get to pull the same jokes on her
[36:00.960 --> 36:10.280]  over and over. I put that light in there that turns on on her. Oh, it just makes you crazy.
[36:10.280 --> 36:16.640]  She tries to duck under it. Nothing works. And then I shut it off for a while. And about
[36:16.640 --> 36:23.360]  the time she said something she does remember, if you have to repeat a lot, she kind of develops
[36:23.360 --> 36:34.480]  a memory for it. But every time it comes on, I can hear her. And then she comes in threatened
[36:34.480 --> 36:42.680]  to beat me and gets me laughing so hard my stomach hurts. Anyway, yeah, mom's a hoot.
[36:42.680 --> 36:50.280]  I really have enjoyed her. And coming to take care of my mom turned out not to be a burden
[36:50.280 --> 36:58.320]  at all. It was actually an incredible opportunity. Okay, what do you have for us today? I will
[36:58.320 --> 37:04.800]  say, first of all, how fitting of a Christmas story is that for us all right now? Before
[37:04.800 --> 37:13.600]  the holiday, right? Yeah, it was good. My brother sent her some boxes of candy and dried
[37:13.600 --> 37:21.120]  fruit. She ate them all. And then he sent her a box of cookies. She's just about got
[37:21.120 --> 37:26.560]  those eight. I might have to call her and tell them, guys, go ahead and send them that
[37:26.560 --> 37:33.040]  because she'll eat a cookie. And four minutes later, she forgot that she ate the cookie.
[37:33.040 --> 37:39.360]  Oh, it's crazy around here. But yes, it's wonderful. It is. It was a great opportunity
[37:39.360 --> 37:48.200]  for anybody else. When your family needs you, or most often, the anyone who's ever studied
[37:48.200 --> 37:56.880]  the American Indians will appreciate this. The Indians tend to believe that everything
[37:56.880 --> 38:07.440]  is expressed into existence by a higher spiritual will. The Indian tends to not consider themselves
[38:07.440 --> 38:13.960]  any different than the rocks or the trees or the animals. So they're all relatively
[38:13.960 --> 38:23.760]  the same. And their only purpose is to grow in the spirit. And the only way to grow in
[38:23.760 --> 38:31.120]  the spirit is by making spiritually powerful decisions. And the only decisions that have
[38:31.120 --> 38:40.080]  power in them are the difficult ones. When I look back at my life at the decisions I
[38:40.080 --> 38:49.600]  have made, it seems that the decisions that were the most difficult turned out to be the
[38:49.600 --> 39:00.440]  ones that gave me the most satisfaction or advantage. They truly were opportunities.
[39:00.440 --> 39:05.760]  And for me, this is a great opportunity to reconnect with family that I've been estranged
[39:05.760 --> 39:16.240]  from for 40 years. They accused me of having post-traumatic stress syndrome. But I went
[39:16.240 --> 39:30.000]  to, I was at a meeting with the heads of the, what is it, the disabled vets and all of these
[39:30.000 --> 39:36.000]  different vet groups, about three or four of them, a couple Vietnam vet groups, a whole
[39:36.000 --> 39:40.840]  bunch of them. And this one guy from Disabled Vets would have been six foot six if he could
[39:40.840 --> 39:47.720]  have stood up. His hands were twice the size of mine, a Marine. I was sitting at another
[39:47.720 --> 39:54.360]  table and he looked over at me and he said, it makes you uncomfortable to be around vets,
[39:54.360 --> 40:01.800]  doesn't it? And yes, it had, but no one had ever really pointed at that before. And I
[40:01.800 --> 40:08.040]  was kind of taken aback by that. And I said, well, yes, as a matter of fact, it does. And
[40:08.040 --> 40:13.360]  oh, that was a wrong thing to say. All of them leaped on me, boy, you got post-traumatic
[40:13.360 --> 40:21.440]  stress syndrome. You need to go down and get the disability for it. So I told my son
[40:21.440 --> 40:27.040]  and my wife, my daughter already married, what they had said, oh, yeah, that's right,
[40:27.040 --> 40:34.040]  dad, you do need it. I went down and got evaluated and I come home and I told them, they said,
[40:34.040 --> 40:39.440]  what happened? I said, oh, you're not going to like this. Well, what did he say? Well,
[40:39.440 --> 40:47.600]  I talked to the psychologist and he certified me sane. What? What? He's got to be out of
[40:47.600 --> 40:56.280]  his mind. I get no respect. But I went to the VA recently and they asked me if I had
[40:56.280 --> 41:03.240]  had any traumatic experiences. I said, yes, I did. Oh, was that in the military? Oh, no,
[41:03.240 --> 41:11.680]  no, it's just the other day. Well, what happened? Well, I put in a new, I took out the bathtub
[41:11.680 --> 41:17.640]  and put a shower in for my mom because she couldn't step into the tub. And I was in there
[41:17.640 --> 41:24.560]  testing it out and above the counter, she's got this huge mirror. And I accidentally saw
[41:24.560 --> 41:37.400]  myself naked. Oh, oh, it was bad. It was not good. I need disability for that. They didn't
[41:37.400 --> 41:45.560]  go for that story. Oh, well, enough of that. What do you have for us today? I'm having
[41:45.560 --> 41:51.480]  too much fun. Yeah, but here's the thing, man. Here's the thing now. See, ironically,
[41:51.480 --> 41:56.840]  we're talking on Friday, right? And we want to get to our business again, right? But what
[41:56.840 --> 42:01.920]  a wonderful story this is ahead of Christmas last weekend for Christmas. These wonderful
[42:01.920 --> 42:07.640]  stories. I mean, it's wonderful. Now, it's terrible what happened here, but that was
[42:07.640 --> 42:17.400]  a very wonderful story for it. Yeah, it was terrible. You're 69 years old. Don't ever
[42:17.400 --> 42:24.000]  look at yourself in the mirror. Yes, but what you just said, especially naked. Oh, it's
[42:24.000 --> 42:29.440]  bad. I'm not talking about you in the mirror. What I'm saying is, what about the story you
[42:29.440 --> 42:37.360]  pulled for our viewers? This is a Christmas story coming up. Very wonderful story. See,
[42:37.360 --> 42:44.000]  we're thinking about that. What a great story this Christmas, I told him. It was a, it turned
[42:44.000 --> 42:51.840]  out to be a present for me. Right. What I thought was me having to lay to set down my life in
[42:51.840 --> 42:57.960]  Texas and frankly, I hate Tennessee. I do not like it here. Right. And now I think that
[42:57.960 --> 43:04.040]  made this even better. Yeah, but I just personally, I think that was a wonderful story for people
[43:04.040 --> 43:12.600]  who are upon the holidays, right? And that's wonderful. Now, Leslie, personal stuff. I'm
[43:12.600 --> 43:23.000]  going to leave it to her to talk to you about that. But she's, by the way, she's having
[43:23.000 --> 43:30.600]  some issues tonight. Otherwise, she'd be on the call. Oh, okay. How is she? Okay. Not
[43:30.600 --> 43:35.120]  big issues. Just, you know, just some little issues, nothing big, no, no big issues. But
[43:35.120 --> 43:40.920]  you should probably be on back next week. Yeah. Okay, good. Yeah. Yeah. This little
[43:40.920 --> 43:46.360]  stuff, no, nothing big. Yeah. Yeah. He's talking about bad grandma. She wanted, but she wanted
[43:46.360 --> 43:52.560]  to be on the night. So these little issues, you know, to be okay. Leslie from Pennsylvania,
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[46:22.960 --> 46:29.960]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, rule of law radio, and we're talking to Tony in Pennsylvania.
[46:29.960 --> 46:34.480]  Okay, Tony, what do you have for us today?
[46:34.480 --> 46:40.720]  Okay, again, very inspirational message. Christmas holiday thing. That was wonderful.
[46:40.720 --> 46:49.120]  So I just hope people got that. Okay, what I want to discuss, Randy, was I have my situation
[46:49.120 --> 46:53.880]  at this point. We talked before a while back, and I haven't talked for a while, but where
[46:53.880 --> 46:59.520]  I'm at now is I have my lawyer do his thing. I'm very lucky to have him because Leslie
[46:59.520 --> 47:07.400]  brought him to me. I'm very fortunate to have him. But where we're at now is the state court
[47:07.400 --> 47:15.000]  of Pennsylvania. The Supreme Court of Pennsylvania has turned us down. Denied our appeal. But
[47:15.000 --> 47:19.400]  I listened last week, what Ken had to say, I think is very important. So what I want
[47:19.400 --> 47:28.080]  to do right now, my lawyer, as we speak, I thought I'd have it by now. I don't yet,
[47:28.080 --> 47:34.520]  but I probably will in the next week or so. The civil lawsuit to continue with the matter
[47:34.520 --> 47:40.600]  because of what they've done. But what I want to do, I don't want to stop that. He said
[47:40.600 --> 47:46.920]  that he can't handle the Supreme Court of the United States of America appeal. And it
[47:46.920 --> 47:56.680]  helped me out. But that being said, he, I don't understand, but he left me an alert.
[47:56.680 --> 48:01.080]  I'm not knocking the guy, but he left me an alert. So here I have now, and I have a short
[48:01.080 --> 48:07.960]  timeframe, and I talked to Leslie, and I know that you and Leslie are working on a Supreme
[48:07.960 --> 48:14.840]  Court appeal for Deborah in Texas, which is wonderful. And so I'm at the point now, I
[48:14.840 --> 48:21.000]  have to do something. The civil lawsuit's coming. But the most important thing for me
[48:21.000 --> 48:27.240]  is this. I have, I've taken over the building, I've taken possession back. They actually
[48:27.240 --> 48:34.920]  went and started a possession action against me in the Commonwealth Court. We got to the
[48:34.920 --> 48:39.560]  end of it, and they stopped it. That was like seven, eight months ago, probably because
[48:39.560 --> 48:46.040]  of this action, which is now terminated. And now it's just started again. So when we've,
[48:46.040 --> 48:49.040]  whatever action they file, whether it be the civil suit that my lawyer is going to file
[48:49.040 --> 48:55.360]  in a minute, or whatever I do next, the fact is I want to file as Liz Pennance again to
[48:55.360 --> 49:03.160]  stop the action. So what I want to do for getting what my lawyer is doing and can't
[49:03.160 --> 49:09.440]  help me with the other appeal for the Supreme Court, that what I drone in my lawyer's head
[49:09.440 --> 49:15.840]  for years in all the court cases that were denied, and I'm referring back to what Ken
[49:15.840 --> 49:25.120]  was saying last week on the show, he, I insisted that there was fraud on the court. Because
[49:25.120 --> 49:30.560]  as you well know, Randy, they don't care what fraud was created, but if there's fraud in
[49:30.560 --> 49:35.880]  the court, it's a different story. Okay, hold on. You've, you've mostly been very
[49:35.880 --> 49:44.680]  vague. I have Ken on the line on, on the, on the bridge. Hello, Ken. Oh, wow. Nice.
[49:44.680 --> 49:51.640]  You there, Ken? Yeah, sorry, I had it muted. Yeah, I'm here. How's everybody doing? We're
[49:51.640 --> 50:00.120]  doing good. I have Tony from Pennsylvania. And, and Tony, you have a supreme assert
[50:00.120 --> 50:06.440]  that you need to, to get written, but you haven't given me any idea of what the claims
[50:06.440 --> 50:12.320]  on the cert are. Well, I agree with you. But let's get back to what Ken said last week.
[50:12.320 --> 50:18.360]  And I agree. Basically what Ken said, and I agree with him, he said that basically no
[50:18.360 --> 50:25.440]  statute of limitations on a crime. No, actually there is. There's no statute of limitations
[50:25.440 --> 50:32.400]  on subject matter jurisdiction challenge, but on crimes there is. What's the nature?
[50:32.400 --> 50:39.840]  Are you speaking to fraud? Yes. Yeah. Let me, let me back up a notch. At the end of
[50:39.840 --> 50:46.880]  your last show, you, you can mention that there were four reasons why you can refile
[50:46.880 --> 50:52.520]  and get done and follow criminal claims against them for the crimes they committed to reopen
[50:52.520 --> 51:00.800]  any case. Yes, you can do that. But there, there are statute of limitations on crimes.
[51:00.800 --> 51:07.120]  But if you're in a lawsuit and you're filing for an action, maybe I misunderstood, but
[51:07.120 --> 51:13.640]  making, if you're making a criminal claim about something they did in the process of
[51:13.640 --> 51:22.600]  the, the, the prosecution of the suit, then your statute of limitations will most likely
[51:22.600 --> 51:31.480]  not have run. If the reason I ask about fraud is the clock starts on fraud when the fraud
[51:31.480 --> 51:39.120]  is discovered. But I want to be specific on fraud on the court because they have a fiduciary
[51:39.120 --> 51:46.160]  duty to investigate that, which they chose to ignore and denied my appeal. Okay. That
[51:46.160 --> 52:01.200]  is not a crime. Thank you. Hello? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Not. Okay. You said they have
[52:01.200 --> 52:11.520]  a fiduciary duty. Who has a fiduciary duty? The court. The court is not there to investigate
[52:11.520 --> 52:20.720]  anything. But if there's a crime on the same court that they resided, you have to, the
[52:20.720 --> 52:30.880]  court sits as essentially a neutral party. Okay. So unless the crime is one that is
[52:30.880 --> 52:38.440]  blatantly obvious or interferes with the court itself, if for the court to start filing criminal
[52:38.440 --> 52:47.880]  charges against the actors before it is going to give the impression at least of bias. So
[52:47.880 --> 52:54.600]  if a crime has been committed, it's up to the litigant to raise the issue before the
[52:54.600 --> 53:00.960]  court. Then you invoke the duty of the court and the court doesn't invoke that himself
[53:00.960 --> 53:12.240]  and give the impression of bias. Can you agree with that? Well, yeah. I mean, it's the timing
[53:12.240 --> 53:17.320]  of when you're bringing up issues. Now, there are certain situations like you're saying
[53:17.320 --> 53:23.520]  last weekend in the discussion where you can report a crime directly to a magistrate. So
[53:23.520 --> 53:28.880]  I mean, you can concoct that if you do it properly and because the judge is a mandatory
[53:28.880 --> 53:39.920]  reporter under 18USD4. Yeah. And every judge is a magistrate, period. Well, let me ask
[53:39.920 --> 53:49.240]  you this. I insisted my lawyer for several years now fall into the court. Now, the reason
[53:49.240 --> 53:58.000]  I did that was because, number one, Pennsylvania statute says that if you don't have a mortgage
[53:58.000 --> 54:08.160]  license, that is a phony. Okay. Okay. Now, America's wholesale lender to this day, this
[54:08.160 --> 54:17.520]  is a 2007 loan to this day are still not licensed. Now, Pennsylvania statute specifically states
[54:17.520 --> 54:25.960]  that is a phony. Okay. Hold on. Wait. Back up. Yep. What lender was that? That was America's
[54:25.960 --> 54:31.800]  wholesale lender. Okay. Well, the problem with filing a criminal complaint against America's
[54:31.800 --> 54:37.120]  wholesale lenders is they know it don't exist in the state of Pennsylvania and they never
[54:37.120 --> 54:46.840]  have. Who is the person claiming to act as an agent for American wholesale lenders? Just
[54:46.840 --> 54:56.840]  to clarify, America's wholesale lender was the originator of the loan. Okay. Who is trying
[54:56.840 --> 55:05.800]  to foreclose now on that mortgage? Bank of New York Mellon. Who is the lawyer who is
[55:05.800 --> 55:19.560]  signing the documentation? Okay. Here's what, here's what you don't know. You don't know
[55:19.560 --> 55:30.280]  if Bank of Mellon, my tang is getting tangled, that Mellon has anything to do with it. All
[55:30.280 --> 55:38.320]  you know is somebody created a document, made these statements and signed their name to
[55:38.320 --> 55:47.880]  this document. But you also know that America's wholesale lender never actually existed. Absolutely.
[55:47.880 --> 55:56.000]  And yes. So that gives you reason to believe that whoever signed this document committed
[55:56.000 --> 56:05.600]  the criminal act. That's all you really know. Now Bank of Mellon, Mellon or anybody else,
[56:05.600 --> 56:09.840]  you don't know if they actually hired this guy as an agent or not. You only know what
[56:09.840 --> 56:19.680]  he said. Well, it's funny you would say that because this loan was 2007. This was when
[56:19.680 --> 56:29.800]  Countrywide was in play because we're at home loans and they had a supposed CEO. Her
[56:29.800 --> 56:38.760]  name was Michelle Schilllander. I will never forget that name. And it's public where anyone
[56:38.760 --> 56:46.680]  can go off the internet and pull it up. She gave a four hour deposition in 2012 and stated
[56:46.680 --> 56:52.600]  they asked her the most important question. It was a two part question because it means
[56:52.600 --> 57:00.720]  two things. Have you ever with a pen, meaning not original, ever signed your name and she
[57:00.720 --> 57:09.680]  said no. So she's admitted in a public document in a public deposition. It's clearly a crime.
[57:09.680 --> 57:19.600]  Okay. Then that goes to Collateral Estoppel. She can never come. No one can come into a
[57:19.600 --> 57:24.760]  court and claim that this person signed a document that she's already stated in court.
[57:24.760 --> 57:36.520]  She's never signed. That's Collateral Estoppel. You're in Pennsylvania. There's something unique
[57:36.520 --> 57:47.800]  about Pennsylvania. You don't have a grand jury directly, the way most other states do.
[57:47.800 --> 57:57.200]  But what you have instead from my perspective may be even better. In Pennsylvania like the
[57:57.200 --> 58:05.920]  United Kingdom, New Zealand, Australia and all the British protectorates, you have standing
[58:05.920 --> 58:13.360]  as a common law public official. So you go to the prosecutor attorney. Prosecutor attorneys
[58:13.360 --> 58:24.040]  in Pennsylvania have first blush authority to determine if they believe there's sufficient
[58:24.040 --> 58:29.840]  evidence to believe that the crime has been committed. If you take a complaint to the
[58:29.840 --> 58:37.600]  prosecutor and prosecutor elects not prosecutor, then what I suggest you do is you take this
[58:37.600 --> 58:45.760]  complaint, give it to the prosecutor, get the prosecutor, excuse me, to refuse to prosecute
[58:45.760 --> 58:51.920]  and then claim that the prosecutor did not exercise. Would you like to make more definite
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[01:00:40.760 --> 01:00:44.840]  Rockefeller sworn in as Vice President of the United States under President General
[01:00:44.840 --> 01:00:49.320]  Ford via provisions of the 25th Amendment to the United States Constitution.
[01:00:49.320 --> 01:00:55.800]  Today in history. In recent news, State Rep Republican Bill
[01:00:55.800 --> 01:01:02.120]  King is in the process of filing a bill clarifying the Anti-BDS, Boycott, Divestments and Sanctions
[01:01:02.120 --> 01:01:08.040]  Bill, House Bill 89, signed by Governor Greg Abbott in May of 2017. According to Representative
[01:01:08.040 --> 01:01:12.520]  King, the law's intent was not to allow for tax dollars to be used to support an economic
[01:01:12.520 --> 01:01:16.920]  boycott against Israel, which is the state's fourth largest trading partner. The need for
[01:01:16.920 --> 01:01:21.640]  clarification comes after a former Fluggerville Independent School District speech pathologist
[01:01:21.640 --> 01:01:26.680]  filed a federal complaint about an addendum in her contract requiring her to pledge she wouldn't
[01:01:26.680 --> 01:01:31.800]  boycott Israel, which she was obliged to sign. Representative King made it clear that the purpose
[01:01:31.800 --> 01:01:36.600]  of the follow-up bill was to quote to simply clarifying the bill that it applies to enterprises,
[01:01:36.600 --> 01:01:41.720]  to businesses, to companies, to pension funds, that it doesn't apply to small individuals who
[01:01:41.720 --> 01:01:44.840]  are doing single contracts such as this lady in Fluggerville.
[01:01:47.960 --> 01:01:51.800]  A new report commissioned by the Senate Intelligence Committee conducted by New Knowledge,
[01:01:51.800 --> 01:01:56.440]  a security company that tracks online misinformation, examined Russian digital propaganda
[01:01:56.440 --> 01:02:01.960]  efforts over a two-year period in January of 2015. Their findings are alleging that apparently the
[01:02:01.960 --> 01:02:06.680]  Internet Research Agency, the Russian company accused of meddling in U.S. politics via internet
[01:02:06.680 --> 01:02:11.720]  trolls on social media, was busy sharing links from science including Breibart, the Daily Caller,
[01:02:11.720 --> 01:02:17.080]  and the Washington Examiner, giving them the upper hand due to extra exposure. In addition to this
[01:02:17.080 --> 01:02:22.200]  report, the University of Oxford's computational propaganda project in partnership with the
[01:02:22.200 --> 01:02:28.840]  social media data firm, Graphica, also published findings on the IRA's work dating back to 2016,
[01:02:28.840 --> 01:02:33.480]  apparently uncovering that popular Second Amendment and Texas Secessionist pages on Facebook,
[01:02:33.480 --> 01:02:38.920]  which had huge sways on voter sentiments, were also allegedly run by Russian bots and online
[01:02:38.920 --> 01:02:43.800]  trolls. Senator Mark Warren of Virginia, the committee's top Democrat, characterized the
[01:02:43.800 --> 01:02:48.840]  report as a quote, wake-up call. I hope these reports will spur legislative action in the
[01:02:48.840 --> 01:02:53.240]  Congress and provide additional clarity to the American public about Russia's assault on our
[01:02:53.240 --> 01:02:59.400]  democracy. This was Rick Rodie with the Lowdown for December 19th, 2018.
[01:02:59.400 --> 01:03:25.800]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton with our radio, and we've got our special guest up on the bridge,
[01:03:25.800 --> 01:03:33.960]  Ken in Missouri, and we're talking to Tony in Pennsylvania. Okay, Tony, where were we when
[01:03:33.960 --> 01:03:39.960]  we ran off the cliff? Well, you were telling me about Colorado off of it. I will go back to my
[01:03:39.960 --> 01:03:46.680]  question for Ken, actually, and because I appreciate Ken being on the call, because what I was trying
[01:03:46.680 --> 01:03:56.840]  to hone in on, and I agree with what you're saying, is when I point out these things, very
[01:03:56.840 --> 01:04:05.480]  documented, very clear in all the court cases that they continue to deny, meaning that one of the
[01:04:05.480 --> 01:04:14.600]  elements in the cases that they're denying was an 85 or 87-page forensic audit, which
[01:04:14.600 --> 01:04:24.840]  clearly indicates how the transfer of seven Ds in titles as clearly impossible and physically
[01:04:24.840 --> 01:04:31.880]  doesn't exist. So what I want to go back to is what Ken talked about last week was, this is clearly
[01:04:31.880 --> 01:04:38.360]  criminal, this is clearly impossible, and I want to be able to open the case back up for an appeal,
[01:04:38.360 --> 01:04:50.120]  because what Ken said last week was, if we have a criminal complaint, which I clearly do,
[01:04:51.160 --> 01:04:58.120]  I can reopen the case. That's what I want to do. Ken, you want to address that?
[01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:04.600]  Sure. I mean, I need a little bit more background, but the general idea is
[01:05:04.600 --> 01:05:09.640]  what Randy had already said, as far as whether there's statute of limitations or not,
[01:05:10.680 --> 01:05:16.120]  which I don't think is an issue here, but just to clarify from last week, is newly discovered
[01:05:16.120 --> 01:05:22.520]  information is the key to a lot of stuff. So whether you get your newly discovered information
[01:05:22.520 --> 01:05:29.480]  in the middle of a case, or 20 years old or 10 years old, it's still worth that's the angle you
[01:05:29.480 --> 01:05:36.760]  want to pursue. So to clarify that. So on your situation, it sounds like, well, I'm not clear on
[01:05:37.480 --> 01:05:46.440]  where you are in the process and what's been passed, but let me, I appreciate what you said.
[01:05:46.440 --> 01:05:50.440]  Let me make a second. Wait, wait, hold on just a second, Tony. Let me explain some technical
[01:05:50.440 --> 01:06:01.400]  issues. Wait, hold on just a second, Tony. Tony, hold on just a second. Ken's on the guest bridge,
[01:06:02.360 --> 01:06:11.560]  and when we talk, we have a suppressor that will push you down below us. So Ken, when somebody
[01:06:11.560 --> 01:06:18.280]  else is trying to talk, you'll just hear little bits and pieces, and the system will push their
[01:06:18.280 --> 01:06:27.320]  voice down underneath yours. So I just want you to know how that works. So you know, Tony was
[01:06:27.320 --> 01:06:33.320]  trying to say something, you were saying something at the same time, going to both of you to know
[01:06:33.320 --> 01:06:41.240]  how that works. So Tony, if one of us is speaking, we will trounce right over you. So make a noise
[01:06:41.240 --> 01:06:46.680]  so we know, and as soon as we finish whatever we're saying, we'll stop and then come back to you.
[01:06:46.680 --> 01:06:51.560]  Okay, go ahead, Tony. Thank you for your consideration. So real simply, Ken,
[01:06:53.240 --> 01:07:02.520]  current events, they just denied my appeal to the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania two to three weeks
[01:07:02.520 --> 01:07:10.840]  ago. So I believe that my grounds, based on what you said last week, and I'm not calling the out
[01:07:10.840 --> 01:07:19.240]  on it, but I understand what you said, and I believe it applied. And that is that for three years now,
[01:07:19.240 --> 01:07:24.920]  every single thing they keep denying, I keep saying fraud in the court for the reasons that I
[01:07:24.920 --> 01:07:33.160]  mentioned, and more. It's physically impossible while this dog shit is being passed through the
[01:07:33.160 --> 01:07:40.920]  court system. Okay. So now they've been denied. So wait, wait a minute, Tony, you know, I've been
[01:07:40.920 --> 01:07:46.360]  listening to you for a while now, and you're talking around issues, but you really haven't
[01:07:46.360 --> 01:07:56.760]  given us anything specific. Okay, first, what were the claims specifically that you appealed
[01:07:56.760 --> 01:08:06.360]  that the Court of Appeals turned down? What was the error? That's what I'm trying to hone down on
[01:08:06.360 --> 01:08:14.440]  is one thing, fraud on the court. Did you claim fraud on the court in the in your petition?
[01:08:16.040 --> 01:08:24.520]  In every court system, absolutely. Okay. And that was the issue that you brought on appeal?
[01:08:24.520 --> 01:08:33.000]  Each and every court system has gone through the claim of fraud in the court and they keep denying
[01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:40.840]  it, keep passing it off. So now the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania has now done the same thing again.
[01:08:40.840 --> 01:08:46.280]  I just was notified a couple of weeks ago, and I listened to the show last week and what Ken said,
[01:08:46.280 --> 01:08:57.240]  I believe applies because it's criminal acts that they keep denying reality and more importantly,
[01:08:57.240 --> 01:09:07.960]  criminal acts. Well, have you went to the Fed yet? Well, that's a very good thing. But I want to go
[01:09:07.960 --> 01:09:17.400]  back to what Ken said for a second. He mentioned last week four items where you can actually
[01:09:18.040 --> 01:09:24.760]  file a criminal claim or something along the lines and reopen the case again because I think that
[01:09:24.760 --> 01:09:30.520]  that should apply because every frigging court case that filed from the beginning to the end
[01:09:30.520 --> 01:09:38.280]  does apply because it's all criminal. So he mentioned four items and what I honed on was fraud
[01:09:38.280 --> 01:09:45.720]  because it's clearly fraud, clearly, clearly, clearly fraud, and that's a crime. So that's what
[01:09:45.720 --> 01:09:53.560]  I honed on. So what I was thinking was what Ken said last week that that would apply to my case.
[01:09:53.560 --> 01:10:00.280]  Have you already raised the fraud claims in the courts?
[01:10:01.800 --> 01:10:12.280]  Every single court case. Then it's resjudicata. Thank you. Me and Leslie talked about that.
[01:10:12.280 --> 01:10:21.880]  Yes. Well, it depends, Randy. Can you hear me? Yeah, I can hear you. But what I want to do right
[01:10:21.880 --> 01:10:32.680]  now? Wait, hold on. Tony, Ken's got something. So it's all in the details. So if I was to
[01:10:32.680 --> 01:10:36.840]  look at it, I could probably pick out three different frauds that you haven't thought of,
[01:10:36.840 --> 01:10:43.640]  for example, and you can put that into a criminal venue and then just to reiterate where you're
[01:10:43.640 --> 01:10:48.200]  going since you like this path and you picked up on it. I want to just kind of summarize it again
[01:10:48.200 --> 01:10:53.480]  is you don't want to go to the Supreme Court. You don't ever want to give up any ground until
[01:10:53.480 --> 01:10:58.520]  you have to. You want to get back into the trial court. That's my expertise. That's where my brain
[01:10:58.520 --> 01:11:04.680]  work has been. So you go for the criminal issues, get somebody like me or somebody else to analyze
[01:11:04.680 --> 01:11:13.000]  the details, make criminal charges, and now you can get back into the trial court to set aside
[01:11:13.000 --> 01:11:18.360]  the judgment. If you can come up with some things that they did that you haven't mentioned before,
[01:11:19.640 --> 01:11:24.440]  whether it's a civil issue or a criminal issue, if it's something new that's valid,
[01:11:25.240 --> 01:11:33.960]  you want to go back and keep on working them. Exactly. And that's why I call it today. You're
[01:11:33.960 --> 01:11:44.760]  exactly right. Exactly. So that's my input. What are the issues? What issues have you found that
[01:11:44.760 --> 01:11:52.520]  haven't been adjudicated? Because you're exactly right. Tony, that wasn't right. Yeah, it's just,
[01:11:53.320 --> 01:11:58.360]  yeah, I mean, I don't know if this is the proper venue because the details, I get better understanding
[01:11:58.360 --> 01:12:03.320]  when I look at something on paper and I look at the facts. But yeah, Randy wants to go over some of
[01:12:03.320 --> 01:12:08.760]  it. Just keep in mind, it's easier for us to see it on paper. Or for me, I'll just say for me.
[01:12:09.560 --> 01:12:15.880]  Well, this is the radio show. We're talking about how we do what we do.
[01:12:17.160 --> 01:12:22.520]  So you have issues that, a fraud that have been brought before the court
[01:12:23.640 --> 01:12:29.560]  and adjudicated before the court. No, I was never adjudicated. They did nothing about it.
[01:12:29.560 --> 01:12:37.320]  Did you bring them? Absolutely. And did the court not rule on them?
[01:12:38.280 --> 01:12:44.600]  Yeah, but they did hide them. Okay, there is a procedure for how to handle this.
[01:12:46.520 --> 01:12:50.520]  At each point, did you request findings affecting conclusions of law?
[01:12:50.520 --> 01:13:00.520]  Leslie mentioned that to me as soon as this case came out. But I still think what Ken's
[01:13:00.520 --> 01:13:09.320]  saying is the best route. Okay, I can't help you if you don't give us good information.
[01:13:12.200 --> 01:13:18.200]  What I was trying to get to is what was actually adjudicated, what wasn't adjudicated.
[01:13:18.200 --> 01:13:25.160]  If you have filed something in a document and the court refused to address what was in the
[01:13:25.160 --> 01:13:31.320]  document, then they've denied you in due process. That'll give you way back in.
[01:13:33.080 --> 01:13:38.040]  If I tell you a court that they're sparring the court and they denied the case, they didn't hear it,
[01:13:38.040 --> 01:13:44.520]  that, yeah. No, no, you're still trying to jump from specifics to generals.
[01:13:44.520 --> 01:13:50.920]  Okay. If you raised a specific issue before the court
[01:13:51.960 --> 01:13:56.680]  and the court did not specifically rule on that issue, they denied you in due process,
[01:13:58.840 --> 01:14:05.000]  that's a crime. But you're being so vague in general, I still don't know what's going on.
[01:14:05.000 --> 01:14:10.520]  I have no idea how to address your case because you're talking in such vague generalities
[01:14:10.520 --> 01:14:17.720]  that I wouldn't know how to answer you. Have they adjudicated the fraud or haven't they adjudicated
[01:14:17.720 --> 01:14:25.800]  the fraud? I don't know. This is what I'm thinking, Randy. I personally think, based on what I know
[01:14:25.800 --> 01:14:32.280]  and I want to share that with you guys, I think that what Ken said last week is the best. So
[01:14:33.560 --> 01:14:40.120]  I want to share that with you. I want to give you... Ken said that you can, if you can find
[01:14:40.120 --> 01:14:46.120]  where they've committed crimes, that goes to due process. You can go back and re-adjudicate,
[01:14:46.120 --> 01:14:51.560]  but you've been so vague in general. Yes, but I want to be more specific and
[01:14:51.560 --> 01:14:57.000]  understand the items and the information to be specific. So what do we do at this point?
[01:14:57.720 --> 01:15:07.560]  Send a timeline, not a statement of facts, but a timeline. This happened and this happened and
[01:15:07.560 --> 01:15:15.720]  this happened. No explanations, no arguments. Just give us an outline of everything that's
[01:15:15.720 --> 01:15:26.120]  occurred in the case. You know everything that happened. We don't. You know the order in which
[01:15:26.120 --> 01:15:34.200]  everything happened. We don't. You are in the case and you have an emotional load in the case. So
[01:15:34.200 --> 01:15:40.520]  when you start talking about what happened, then you will make links, internal links to other things
[01:15:40.520 --> 01:15:46.520]  that happened that you consider are important and relative to what you're talking about,
[01:15:46.520 --> 01:15:53.320]  but they won't necessarily be in chronological order. So when people talk about what's gone on,
[01:15:53.320 --> 01:16:01.320]  they tend to jump from one timeframe to another and back and forth and you assume that your listener
[01:16:01.320 --> 01:16:08.440]  knows what you know and you don't think you don't think to give us direction on where you're at.
[01:16:09.320 --> 01:16:14.520]  So we get lost completely and sometimes when you tell the same story over and over,
[01:16:15.160 --> 01:16:22.200]  you lose track of exactly when something happens. Best thing you can have, best thing we could
[01:16:22.200 --> 01:16:28.920]  have to help you with is a timeline. Then when you speak to something, you can say that occurs
[01:16:28.920 --> 01:16:35.160]  right here and then we can look at it and see how it happens in the overall context of the whole
[01:16:35.160 --> 01:16:40.360]  case. About to go to break. Hang on. We'll pick this up on the other side. This is something
[01:16:40.360 --> 01:16:47.320]  that over the years have kind of developed as absolutely the first thing and everybody should
[01:16:47.320 --> 01:16:56.120]  have one on their case all of the time. Hang on. Randy Kelton. Ken in Missouri,
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[01:20:28.600 --> 01:20:36.920]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Ken Allman, Rural Law Radio, and we're talking to Tony in Pennsylvania.
[01:20:37.560 --> 01:20:44.600]  Tony, the only way we can really help you is get us a timeline. Now when you talk about stuff,
[01:20:44.600 --> 01:20:51.560]  we can go down the timeline. We have things in context and we understand what you're talking
[01:20:51.560 --> 01:20:56.360]  about. When I ask you earlier if something has been adjudicated, if I can look at the timeline,
[01:20:56.360 --> 01:21:01.640]  I can tell if it's actually been adjudicated or not because I can see where it's been filed,
[01:21:01.640 --> 01:21:08.600]  where a ruling has been made, and then I can go to that ruling and say, is this issue in that ruling
[01:21:09.400 --> 01:21:16.600]  and we sort this thing out. Does that make sense, Tony? Yes, it absolutely does. Again,
[01:21:16.600 --> 01:21:23.800]  what I honed in on with my knowledge of my situation was I knew that Ken, what he talked about last
[01:21:23.800 --> 01:21:31.640]  week, would be addressed my concerns. So what I want to do right now, tell me where I can send
[01:21:31.640 --> 01:21:36.920]  this information because I believe that what Ken said last week will address my concerns very well.
[01:21:36.920 --> 01:21:46.520]  Okay, hold on, hold on. Don't send all your documentation yet. I have a set of rules on
[01:21:46.520 --> 01:21:54.680]  documentation and it's kind of difficult. You have a lot of stuff. You have a lot of documents
[01:21:54.680 --> 01:22:01.240]  and you can pick up one of those documents and you know exactly where it lands in the overall
[01:22:01.240 --> 01:22:10.680]  scheme of things. Right. But I don't. I don't have a clue. If you have a lot of documents,
[01:22:10.680 --> 01:22:19.960]  let me make a suggestion on how to label, how to name documents if you're working inside any kind
[01:22:19.960 --> 01:22:32.120]  of legal case. Start the document with your last name underscore year underscore month underscore
[01:22:32.120 --> 01:22:43.880]  day all in put the date all in numbers and then a short description of what the document is,
[01:22:44.840 --> 01:22:53.560]  you know, motion to dismiss whatever. When you put your name, if that, if you send me that document
[01:22:54.520 --> 01:23:01.960]  and I drop it into the wrong file, I open the file, I can, that document will either pop to
[01:23:01.960 --> 01:23:08.840]  the top or the bottom because every folder I have with people's files in it has starts with their name
[01:23:10.120 --> 01:23:17.000]  and then it has the international date format that will cause it to organize your documents in
[01:23:17.000 --> 01:23:23.160]  chronological order. Now you'll have all your documents ordered in the file in the date that
[01:23:23.160 --> 01:23:32.200]  they occurred. That will give you the beginning of your timeline. You could just, you know,
[01:23:32.200 --> 01:23:37.720]  people send me all their documentations. Half the time I spend on doing an evaluation of a mortgage
[01:23:38.840 --> 01:23:46.440]  is organized in the file so I can understand what's going on. I get them in chronological order,
[01:23:46.440 --> 01:23:56.440]  then I can tell a whole lot. And if I see an assignment, I can back up in date and see, okay,
[01:23:56.440 --> 01:24:02.680]  this guy did the assignment. Back before that, I should see an assignment to this guy
[01:24:03.880 --> 01:24:09.800]  unless this guy is your regional lender. So I can look in the dates. I know the range of where it
[01:24:09.800 --> 01:24:17.480]  has to be. And you send that to, anytime you move your files around, this will keep them in order.
[01:24:18.040 --> 01:24:24.360]  Do that first. Do you have zip, can you use zip files?
[01:24:25.720 --> 01:24:28.840]  I can do that. Number one, where do you want me to send that to?
[01:24:30.680 --> 01:24:31.080]  Pardon me?
[01:24:32.360 --> 01:24:35.000]  Number one, where do you just send? Where do you want me to send that to?
[01:24:35.000 --> 01:24:43.240]  Oh, if Ken wants to work us, Ken, do you want to give out an email on the air?
[01:24:45.960 --> 01:24:46.440]  What's that?
[01:24:47.160 --> 01:24:49.000]  Do you want to give out an email on the air?
[01:24:50.440 --> 01:25:00.200]  Sure. It's touch base, just like it sounds, T-O-U-C-H-B-A-F-E. And then the letter's K-C.
[01:25:00.200 --> 01:25:03.720]  And then that's at yahoo.com.
[01:25:07.560 --> 01:25:10.680]  Was that touch base at Dutchman? What was the first part of that?
[01:25:11.960 --> 01:25:13.640]  Right. T as in Tom.
[01:25:15.320 --> 01:25:16.040]  Touch base?
[01:25:17.080 --> 01:25:20.920]  Yes. Tango Oscar Uniform Charlie Hotel.
[01:25:20.920 --> 01:25:28.840]  Okay. Okay, but first send a timeline.
[01:25:30.200 --> 01:25:30.760]  Absolutely.
[01:25:31.480 --> 01:25:36.520]  That's the most important thing. It not only helps us, but it also helps you,
[01:25:37.240 --> 01:25:44.360]  because when you tell a story over and over, and the exact date on a particular piece of
[01:25:44.360 --> 01:25:51.000]  information is not critical to the story you're telling, you tend to drop that out of memory.
[01:25:51.000 --> 01:25:51.480]  I agree.
[01:25:52.280 --> 01:25:59.640]  So, if you have a timeline, it reminds you of what the chronology was. So, get that to him first.
[01:26:01.160 --> 01:26:09.000]  So, let's double check for a second, Randy. Ken's email one more time, just to make sure is...
[01:26:09.000 --> 01:26:16.600]  T-O-U-C-H-B-A-F-E-K-C.
[01:26:22.120 --> 01:26:27.320]  It's B-O-C-U-C-H, right?
[01:26:28.680 --> 01:26:29.000]  Touch.
[01:26:30.440 --> 01:26:31.560]  Reach out and touch somebody.
[01:26:32.600 --> 01:26:34.920]  Touch.B-A-F-E-K-C.
[01:26:34.920 --> 01:26:42.440]  There's no doubt. Tony, go to rule of law radio and send me an email and I'll forward it to him,
[01:26:42.440 --> 01:26:45.080]  and he can send one back to you and you get it connected.
[01:26:45.800 --> 01:26:49.000]  Okay. So, I'm good.
[01:26:50.680 --> 01:27:00.840]  Okay. Okay. Thank you, Tony. Now we're going to go to Tina in California. Hello, Tina.
[01:27:00.840 --> 01:27:04.600]  How are you?
[01:27:05.800 --> 01:27:08.520]  I am good. What do you have for us today?
[01:27:09.720 --> 01:27:15.000]  Where have I been with my mic to learn the information you've been given and our people?
[01:27:15.000 --> 01:27:19.000]  Wait a minute. You're getting a lot of distortion.
[01:27:19.800 --> 01:27:22.600]  Are you on a headset? I'm on a Bluetooth?
[01:27:22.600 --> 01:27:27.160]  I took it off. So, I'm not on the headset.
[01:27:27.160 --> 01:27:31.560]  Okay. Then move the mic down by your chin a little bit.
[01:27:32.920 --> 01:27:34.200]  Okay. Is this better?
[01:27:35.480 --> 01:27:38.280]  No, not much. It may be the connection. Okay. Go ahead.
[01:27:39.880 --> 01:27:49.400]  Okay. You were mentioning about suing attorneys to, I think it was Tim and a couple of others.
[01:27:49.400 --> 01:28:00.040]  Is there other specific things you can sue attorneys for, you know, if they've been,
[01:28:00.040 --> 01:28:09.240]  let's say, they have misrepresented constantly in writing to a court certain facts,
[01:28:09.960 --> 01:28:14.520]  even when the facts have been sent out to them to be false.
[01:28:14.520 --> 01:28:20.280]  Can you do anything about that besides the ball grieving them?
[01:28:21.320 --> 01:28:27.880]  Well, yeah, certainly. You can do a malpractice suit against them. Lawyers are ultimately vulnerable.
[01:28:29.240 --> 01:28:34.360]  If a lawyer fails to adequately adjudicate your case, even if you win, you can sue him.
[01:28:34.360 --> 01:28:41.080]  If he doesn't win you as much as you would have. So, if he fails to actively adjudicate your case
[01:28:41.080 --> 01:28:47.880]  and loses, you can sue him for what you lost. Ken, have you ever addressed going after a lawyer?
[01:28:50.360 --> 01:28:55.720]  Yeah. I mean, it's exactly what you're saying. They're so vulnerable. Every single tiny bit of
[01:28:55.720 --> 01:29:01.800]  due process that goes and can go wrong is their fault. I would never want to be an attorney.
[01:29:03.480 --> 01:29:08.920]  Yeah. We're just ignorant old pro says we make all the mistakes we want to. Lawyers,
[01:29:08.920 --> 01:29:20.040]  when they get that bar card, they are learned counsel. Biggest fear a lawyer has is missing
[01:29:20.040 --> 01:29:27.560]  something. So, absolutely, they're vulnerable. Yeah. But what if it's the other side's attorney
[01:29:27.560 --> 01:29:33.400]  that's making all the false statements? Wait a minute. Say that again.
[01:29:33.400 --> 01:29:43.160]  What if it's the other side's attorney that is okay. Oh, okay. One lawyer is never going after
[01:29:43.160 --> 01:29:53.800]  the other lawyer. It goes to man in glass glass house issue. Lawyers tend not to bar grieve other
[01:29:53.800 --> 01:29:59.480]  lawyers unless what the lawyer does is really egregious. If a lawyer, one lawyer makes a mistake.
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[01:33:31.400 --> 01:33:47.560]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, rule of law radio here with Ken Allman.
[01:33:49.320 --> 01:33:54.440]  And we're talking to Tina in California and just ran off the cliff there again.
[01:33:54.440 --> 01:34:05.800]  Okay, suing lawyers. They are ultimately vulnerable. This project I'm working on,
[01:34:06.840 --> 01:34:11.800]  one of the ways the thing that makes it so compelling to lawyers
[01:34:13.800 --> 01:34:23.800]  is that the questionnaire asks for everything. If you have missed something, we can go back
[01:34:23.800 --> 01:34:28.520]  to the questionnaire and say, okay, that issue, we should address it right here and then crack
[01:34:28.520 --> 01:34:34.280]  that open, crack the questionnaire open, insert that question, stitch it back together.
[01:34:35.160 --> 01:34:42.200]  The system will never, ever forget to ask that question. And when I demonstrate that to the
[01:34:42.200 --> 01:34:54.760]  lawyer, now I got his attention because that is his biggest fear of all. You and I go into court.
[01:34:54.760 --> 01:35:03.640]  Well, just a bunch of chump pro says we can miss all we want to. But a lawyer, he's learned at
[01:35:03.640 --> 01:35:12.360]  council. He can't miss anything. I had a lawyer that I knew here in the Dallas fourth area who
[01:35:12.360 --> 01:35:19.640]  was a real estate lawyer and I talked to him and he was despondent. He had missed some minor issue
[01:35:19.640 --> 01:35:26.280]  on a filing and he didn't know if it would be the judge or his own client that was going to ruin
[01:35:26.280 --> 01:35:34.840]  his practice. And lawyers are really terrified about missing something. So when you say, what
[01:35:34.840 --> 01:35:45.960]  can I sue the lawyer for? Anything he's missed. Even if he wins, you can sue him. So in your case,
[01:35:45.960 --> 01:35:50.920]  where you're dealing with a mortgage issue, you see the lawyer for the full amount of the mortgage,
[01:35:50.920 --> 01:35:59.800]  the proper value of the property. And the lawyer has errors in emissions policy.
[01:36:01.640 --> 01:36:08.600]  The errors in emissions carrier can settle with you without the lawyer's permission.
[01:36:12.200 --> 01:36:19.720]  So they're going to look at it and say, okay, maybe the lawyer didn't do anything wrong.
[01:36:19.720 --> 01:36:26.600]  But it's going to cost us more to litigate this than we will save. So let's make a deal.
[01:36:28.200 --> 01:36:32.600]  So that may be your way to win when you would otherwise lose.
[01:36:32.600 --> 01:36:39.000]  But what I love about it is that you do not have insurance powers.
[01:36:41.640 --> 01:36:44.440]  Wait a minute. Hold on. Do you have a dog in the background?
[01:36:44.440 --> 01:36:49.240]  No. Okay. That might have been 10. Okay. Now go ahead.
[01:36:50.360 --> 01:36:54.600]  Yeah. Some attorneys don't have insurance or errors in emissions,
[01:36:55.400 --> 01:36:57.400]  especially if they're in solo practice.
[01:36:57.400 --> 01:37:02.040]  Wait, wait. Tina, I am having a horrible time understanding your mic is booming.
[01:37:03.080 --> 01:37:05.560]  I don't know what to do about it. I really don't.
[01:37:06.440 --> 01:37:09.080]  Kind of sounds like you're in a bucket.
[01:37:09.080 --> 01:37:14.600]  Well, I'm not on speakerphone. I'm not on the Bluetooth.
[01:37:15.480 --> 01:37:18.360]  I'm just talking into the phone in a totally quiet room.
[01:37:19.160 --> 01:37:24.920]  Yeah. It may be the connection. I'm getting a lot of bass and not a lot of treble.
[01:37:26.280 --> 01:37:29.640]  And I've got hearing issues. I've got a hearing aid in.
[01:37:30.280 --> 01:37:32.760]  But when you have hearing issues, you recognize what that is.
[01:37:32.760 --> 01:37:40.520]  You're very loud in my ear. And I got lots of sound, but I can't quite make out what you're saying.
[01:37:40.520 --> 01:37:45.240]  It's something in this system is sitting out way too much bass and not enough treble.
[01:37:45.240 --> 01:37:50.440]  And what I'm talking, I'm trying to think of a way to counteract that and nothing's
[01:37:51.080 --> 01:37:55.880]  really coming to mind. Try holding it a little farther from your mouth.
[01:37:57.080 --> 01:38:00.920]  Okay. I'll try this. That's a little better. Go ahead.
[01:38:00.920 --> 01:38:09.640]  Okay. What I'm talking about is going after the other sides of Tony for making clearly
[01:38:09.640 --> 01:38:16.280]  false statements to the court. Absolutely. Did you file criminally against attorney for that?
[01:38:17.640 --> 01:38:23.160]  I'm told you can't file criminally in California as opposed to you have to get the prosecutor
[01:38:23.160 --> 01:38:29.240]  to do that. No, no, no, no. You don't have to do any such thing. I don't know who told you that
[01:38:29.240 --> 01:38:39.400]  nonsense. Criminal complaints are filed by citizens. When a police officer files a criminal complaint,
[01:38:40.200 --> 01:38:43.640]  he does not do that in the capacity of a police officer.
[01:38:44.920 --> 01:38:54.040]  He does that in his capacity as a credible person. A credible person is defined as
[01:38:54.040 --> 01:38:58.760]  a person over the age of 18, never been convicted of a felony.
[01:39:02.600 --> 01:39:12.440]  The law enforcement wants the public to report crime. You don't report crime by calling the police
[01:39:12.440 --> 01:39:17.880]  and saying, hey, this guy over here did this that or other. You report crime by preparing a criminal
[01:39:17.880 --> 01:39:25.000]  affidavit and filing it with a magistrate. Prosecuting attorney is a lawyer for the state.
[01:39:26.600 --> 01:39:34.120]  Once a case is initiated, then the prosecutor is the lawyer for the state.
[01:39:35.480 --> 01:39:37.400]  You don't file complaints with lawyers.
[01:39:39.880 --> 01:39:45.480]  You filed a grand jury. Criminal affidavit. I filed it with the district attorney.
[01:39:45.480 --> 01:39:55.000]  No, grand jury or some magistrate. I just send mine to the grand jury directly and the prosecutor
[01:39:55.000 --> 01:40:00.520]  is going to intercept it. And then I file a send a criminal complaint against the prosecutor to
[01:40:00.520 --> 01:40:11.160]  the grand jury. Let him explain it. Would it be criminal if I can file a criminal complaint
[01:40:11.160 --> 01:40:20.760]  to the attorney that says that I could not possibly have tended the correct amount due
[01:40:21.320 --> 01:40:27.880]  because I had previously filed bankruptcy? That's not criminal. That's all civil.
[01:40:30.040 --> 01:40:35.240]  So everything civil, what constitutes criminal when they lie, when they commit perjury?
[01:40:35.240 --> 01:40:43.400]  Perjury is criminal. All crimes are specifically defined. It is only perjury if they sign under
[01:40:43.400 --> 01:40:50.840]  penalty of perjury. Yes. And they never sign under penalty of perjury. Oh, no, no, a lawyer
[01:40:50.840 --> 01:40:56.520]  always signs under penalty of perjury. If he signs, it is under penalty of perjury.
[01:40:57.800 --> 01:41:03.080]  Even every motion that they file is filed under penalty of perjury? Absolutely.
[01:41:03.080 --> 01:41:09.880]  If he lies in a document that's tampering with the government document,
[01:41:11.320 --> 01:41:18.120]  that's aggravated perjury. If the false statement is material,
[01:41:20.200 --> 01:41:27.320]  if you're suing about a mortgage and he claims he weighs 150 pounds when he really weighs 250,
[01:41:27.320 --> 01:41:35.720]  if that has nothing to do with the case, it's not material. But if it is a material fact,
[01:41:35.720 --> 01:41:39.480]  and he misrepresents a material fact, that's aggravated perjury.
[01:41:41.240 --> 01:41:47.240]  That's aggravated perjury. Misrepresent a material fact. So who decides what a material fact is?
[01:41:47.240 --> 01:41:51.960]  Wait a minute. You've moved the headset. It's got muddled again.
[01:41:51.960 --> 01:41:59.800]  What? Who decides what is a material fact? Grand jury.
[01:42:02.920 --> 01:42:11.480]  Or a magistrate. You can file criminal complaints with any magistrate. All judges are magistrates.
[01:42:12.280 --> 01:42:19.080]  Okay. Go ahead, Ken. Well, I was going to put something in. Don't lose your thought.
[01:42:19.080 --> 01:42:30.200]  So what everybody can take advantage of on this subject is that if you can convert
[01:42:30.200 --> 01:42:36.040]  something civil, how do you convert something civil into a crime? That's called legal notice.
[01:42:36.040 --> 01:42:42.600]  You send the opposing side a legal notice asking for clarification, asking for documents,
[01:42:42.600 --> 01:42:48.120]  asking for proof of whatever they're saying, and you'll never, ever have to go after a judge
[01:42:48.120 --> 01:42:59.960]  because if an attorney on the other side agrees with a judge, and he's stipulating to
[01:42:59.960 --> 01:43:05.560]  the judge violating due process, then if you've done your due diligence before that,
[01:43:05.560 --> 01:43:10.760]  then you can leave the judge alone if you want to because the attorney is easier to get money out of.
[01:43:10.760 --> 01:43:26.360]  So, okay. If you've raised an issue before the court and counsel on the other side says,
[01:43:27.400 --> 01:43:34.840]  oh, blah, blah, blah, and it's wrong. It's just horse manure. And the judge agrees with blah,
[01:43:34.840 --> 01:43:43.160]  blah, blah. Then the judge has essentially failed to properly apply the law to the facts.
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[01:47:38.520 --> 01:47:52.120]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Ken Allman, Rue Law Radio, and we're talking to Tina in California.
[01:47:52.120 --> 01:47:58.920]  Okay, Tina, where was going was you could do all this stuff to the judge, but that's really tough
[01:47:58.920 --> 01:48:07.240]  and they'll get the judge really P.O. at you. But it was the lawyer who induced the judge to commit
[01:48:07.240 --> 01:48:14.840]  the crime. So the lawyer is equally culpable. And like Ken was saying, he's a whole lot easier to
[01:48:14.840 --> 01:48:24.760]  get at. The judge is not so vulnerable. Lawyers are ultimately vulnerable. They don't, they know
[01:48:24.760 --> 01:48:33.320]  it. They don't want you to know it. So filing us a lawyer. Oh, I was in Highland Park, Texas.
[01:48:33.320 --> 01:48:40.680]  And I'd gotten a pretty good rapport with the judge. I gave him an argument on
[01:48:40.680 --> 01:48:46.040]  examining trials that he actually said he could use in court with his criminal defendants.
[01:48:47.160 --> 01:48:51.800]  But at the end of the trial, I said, Your Honor, I put in a request for discovery.
[01:48:53.000 --> 01:49:01.240]  And I didn't get that discovery. The Michael Morton Act, 39.14 Texas Code of Criminal Procedure
[01:49:01.240 --> 01:49:07.560]  requires that the prosecutor provide discovery at least 20 days before trial. Well, it's less
[01:49:07.560 --> 01:49:14.120]  than 20 days before trial. I haven't received discovery. I want you to arrest the prosecutor.
[01:49:15.960 --> 01:49:22.360]  Whoa, why would I arrest the prosecutor? Class A, Mr. Mayor, official oppression,
[01:49:23.160 --> 01:49:29.880]  criminal violation 3903, penal code in that he failed to perform a duty he was required to perform
[01:49:29.880 --> 01:49:36.440]  in the process, denied me the full free access to enjoyment. I'm right. Oh, the look on the
[01:49:36.440 --> 01:49:45.000]  prosecutor's face was absolutely priceless. They don't think about what they're doing that way.
[01:49:47.800 --> 01:49:55.080]  They think about, you know, judges to, oh, if you don't like my ruling, why, you can appeal.
[01:49:55.080 --> 01:50:02.840]  I told the judge in Travis County when he told me that once, he's a district judge. Oh, judge,
[01:50:02.840 --> 01:50:08.840]  don't ask me to appeal. You go before a corrupt judge and render a bogus decision. They say,
[01:50:08.840 --> 01:50:13.800]  oh, that's okay. You can go before a whole panel of corrupt judges and they don't really screw your
[01:50:13.800 --> 01:50:19.720]  royal. And he kind of laughed and said, well, Mr. Kelton, I don't think it's quite that bad.
[01:50:19.720 --> 01:50:26.280]  That's because you're not pro se. So I got a better idea. I'll appeal to a grand jury.
[01:50:27.560 --> 01:50:34.120]  Oh, Mr. Kelton, you can appeal to a grand jury. Of course I can. And here I was stating that he's,
[01:50:34.120 --> 01:50:38.280]  I'd filed a complaint with a sheriff and he trashed it. So of course I got to appeal to a grand
[01:50:38.280 --> 01:50:43.160]  jury. I'm going to appeal to a grand jury to indict the sheriff for felony shielding from prosecution.
[01:50:43.160 --> 01:50:49.880]  And the judge sat back in his seat and looked at me and looked at the bailiff. And I know he's
[01:50:49.880 --> 01:50:56.040]  thinking, if I have the bailiff shoot this guy, can I get away with it? See, they hadn't thought
[01:50:56.040 --> 01:51:06.040]  about it that way. A judge has a duty to properly apply the law to the facts, a failure to do so
[01:51:06.040 --> 01:51:14.440]  that denies a citizen full free access to a German rights. Well, that's crime in every state. We
[01:51:14.440 --> 01:51:21.640]  haven't been filing criminally against judges. We just did recently here in Wise County in Ken's case.
[01:51:23.000 --> 01:51:33.240]  We asked for findings of fact in conclusions at law. And rule 297 said the judge shall produce
[01:51:33.240 --> 01:51:40.040]  findings of fact and conclusions of law within 20 days. On the 21st day we filed official pressure
[01:51:40.040 --> 01:51:48.440]  charges against him. But he didn't see that coming. We need to start doing more of that.
[01:51:50.520 --> 01:51:53.400]  And the main reason is, is we forget who we are.
[01:51:53.400 --> 01:52:04.600]  We are the master of the servant. We go into court. We've got two hats. We've got the litigants hat.
[01:52:05.800 --> 01:52:13.880]  But we also have the master's hat. And all of these public servants are servants to the master.
[01:52:15.880 --> 01:52:20.840]  So they step across one of our little lines. It's our duty to bring them back in line.
[01:52:20.840 --> 01:52:26.280]  If we can get people to start doing that, and if you know in your case,
[01:52:27.880 --> 01:52:31.480]  you don't care what the prosecutor thinks. The prosecutor only wants to take cases
[01:52:32.200 --> 01:52:41.960]  that are politically expedient. And even then, he only wants to take cases he thinks he can get
[01:52:41.960 --> 01:52:48.520]  deal on. You thought I was going to say cases he thinks he can win. He don't care if he can win
[01:52:48.520 --> 01:52:53.080]  or not. He wants a deal. He don't want to go to court and have to adjudicate this thing. He don't
[01:52:53.080 --> 01:53:01.960]  have time. All he wants is a deal. So he's not going to do anything that doesn't help him clear his
[01:53:01.960 --> 01:53:08.600]  docket. So if you want the prosecutor to act in your favor, you have to give him a reason to.
[01:53:08.600 --> 01:53:16.600]  And one of the reasons is a professional kick right square in his professional teeth
[01:53:18.760 --> 01:53:23.800]  filed criminally against the prosecutor for shielding from prosecution.
[01:53:25.400 --> 01:53:32.120]  But always, I file complaints through the grand jury. In California, you have a great grand jury
[01:53:32.120 --> 01:53:39.240]  system. But you know, Tina, the grand jury, the prosecutor is going to do everything he can
[01:53:39.880 --> 01:53:49.080]  to block you from the grand jury. Great. Wonderful. I filed a complaint expecting
[01:53:49.080 --> 01:53:55.240]  that the prosecutor is going to intercept it. And as soon as he does, I file a charge in
[01:53:55.240 --> 01:54:01.960]  with shielding or obstruction, depending on how your your case, your penal laws are structured.
[01:54:03.720 --> 01:54:07.400]  And then when you when you do that, that becomes a lot more serious.
[01:54:08.680 --> 01:54:14.120]  You file that with a judge. And when the judge refuses to act on it, then you charge the judge
[01:54:14.120 --> 01:54:21.720]  with shielding. You charge him with conspiracy. The higher level the judge, the more politically
[01:54:21.720 --> 01:54:29.640]  motivated they are. Now, you're not going to frighten the prosecutor or the judge. They're
[01:54:29.640 --> 01:54:36.440]  not going to be afraid of you. What they're going to be afraid of is the political cannon fodder
[01:54:36.440 --> 01:54:42.840]  you can create for their next opponent. What's going to happen when someone runs against that
[01:54:42.840 --> 01:54:48.920]  prosecutor next time and drags out your criminal complaints that waves them in front of the public?
[01:54:48.920 --> 01:55:01.720]  Ken's four rules. First rule. Perception is everything. Second rule is everything's political.
[01:55:03.080 --> 01:55:09.960]  But first one is perception. That's how I got all the highest judges in Texas put in front of a
[01:55:09.960 --> 01:55:19.800]  grand jury. Prosecute an attorney, 25-year district attorney, retiring. He's a Democrat. All nine of
[01:55:19.800 --> 01:55:29.800]  these judges were Republicans. He used my case to try to take those judges out with him. Think
[01:55:29.800 --> 01:55:42.360]  political cannon fodder. Are you there, Tina? I think we might have lost Tina. Okay, she said
[01:55:42.360 --> 01:55:52.120]  we're having trouble with her phone anyway. Ken, did Lauren have something she wanted to
[01:55:52.120 --> 01:56:00.600]  address on here? Yes, she did. All righty. We are going to Lauren in Missouri. Hello, Lauren.
[01:56:02.680 --> 01:56:09.800]  Hi, Randy. Howdy. We've got two minutes. I apologize. We're still late. What do you have for us?
[01:56:09.800 --> 01:56:23.960]  Okay. Let me think about this. In regards to getting the federal judge bar grieved and indicted with
[01:56:23.960 --> 01:56:35.880]  a grand jury, I recently put in a few motions to have the pleadings in my case stricken by
[01:56:35.880 --> 01:56:45.880]  the attorneys that are representing the defendant because they're acting in fraud and using taxpayer
[01:56:45.880 --> 01:56:55.880]  dollars to represent them. Within a day, the federal court judged the night all three of my
[01:56:55.880 --> 01:57:03.880]  motions without giving any grounds or findings of facts and conclusions of law. Did you follow a
[01:57:03.880 --> 01:57:11.240]  specific request for findings affecting conclusions? No, not yet, but we'll do now.
[01:57:12.280 --> 01:57:21.080]  Okay. First, you have to, in these cases, the judges require to do a thing. Before you would
[01:57:21.080 --> 01:57:37.320]  have effective grounds to claim mens reyes, the criminal culpability of a evil mind is you have
[01:57:37.320 --> 01:57:43.560]  to give notice and opportunity. And notice and opportunity is done through a request for findings
[01:57:43.560 --> 01:57:49.640]  affecting conclusions law. You follow that with it. It's just a step you have to take.
[01:57:49.640 --> 01:57:56.680]  And then when he refuses to do that, then you file criminally against him.
[01:57:57.640 --> 01:58:04.120]  You file it with the SAC, the special agent in charge of the local office of the FBI.
[01:58:05.560 --> 01:58:13.320]  Oh, I did that to Judge McBride in Fort Worth. Oh, that was incredible.
[01:58:13.320 --> 01:58:24.120]  This was a declaratory judgment suit. And McBride dismisses all of them
[01:58:25.080 --> 01:58:30.520]  for a failure to stay to claim, but declaratory judgment suits don't have claims. I filed criminally
[01:58:30.520 --> 01:58:36.600]  against him. We've had several people file that claim after that. He does not dismiss them anymore.
[01:58:36.600 --> 01:58:43.000]  We're out of time, but hang on. We'll talk after the show. Thank you all for listening. We'll be
[01:58:43.000 --> 01:58:48.280]  back next week. Oh, no, be next week's Christmas after that week after. Thank you for listening.
[01:58:48.280 --> 01:58:48.600]  Good night.
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