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[00:23.660 --> 00:29.640]  Markets for the 11th of April 2018, closed with gold $1,353.22 an ounce.
[00:29.640 --> 00:38.600]  Silver $16.68 an ounce, Texas Crude $65.51 a barrel, bitcoins at $6,902.19, Ethereum
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[00:55.600 --> 01:01.320]  Today in history, the year 1968, President Lyndon B. Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act
[01:01.320 --> 01:06.680]  of 1968, which prohibited private businesses from discriminating based on race, color, religion,
[01:06.680 --> 01:08.160]  sex, or national origin.
[01:08.160 --> 01:13.280]  It also prohibited unequal application of voter registration requirements, racial segregation
[01:13.280 --> 01:18.400]  in public schools, and employment, and public accommodations for places of business.
[01:18.400 --> 01:27.240]  Today in history, in recent news, tensions in Syria seem to have reached new levels after
[01:27.240 --> 01:31.520]  a chemical attack on civilians in the city of Douma, which left 40 dead and many injured,
[01:31.520 --> 01:36.680]  an attack which is being blamed on the democratically elected president of Syria, Bashar al-Assad,
[01:36.680 --> 01:41.560]  by the United States, and on Israel by Russia, either accusatory narrative without any verified
[01:41.560 --> 01:43.440]  evidence as of yet.
[01:43.440 --> 01:46.920]  President Trump tweeted today, Wednesday, that if, quote, Russia vows to shoot down
[01:46.920 --> 01:50.880]  any and all missiles fired at Syria, get ready, Russia, because they will be coming
[01:50.880 --> 01:55.200]  in nice and new and smart, going on to warn Russia that you shouldn't be partners with
[01:55.200 --> 01:58.680]  a gas-killing animal who kills his people and enjoys it.
[01:58.680 --> 02:02.720]  Many in the West, including President Trump, have been quick to conclude that this chemical
[02:02.720 --> 02:06.880]  attack must have been conducted by Assad and his forces.
[02:06.880 --> 02:11.120]  Syria and Russia, on the other hand, have given approval since yesterday for the organization
[02:11.120 --> 02:15.720]  for the prohibition of chemical weapons to investigate the side of the chemical slaughter.
[02:15.720 --> 02:19.480]  Assad has been successful in maintaining rule and support during Syria's seven-year civil
[02:19.480 --> 02:24.080]  war, a civil war that is being fought by the government of Syria and anti-Assad Syrian
[02:24.080 --> 02:28.840]  rebels that are openly being funded by Western governments, with ISIS being one of the more
[02:28.840 --> 02:32.600]  notorious splinter groups of the American-backed Syrian rebels.
[02:32.600 --> 02:37.920]  No surprise, then, why Russian Foreign Minister Spokeswoman Maria Zakoba posted on Facebook
[02:37.920 --> 02:42.280]  that smart missiles should be fired at terrorists and not at a legitimate government, which
[02:42.280 --> 02:47.200]  has been fighting terrorists, or is this a trick to destroy all traces with a smart missile
[02:47.200 --> 03:16.200]  strike, and then there will be no evidence for international inspectors to look at.
[03:17.200 --> 03:44.160]  Okay, howdy howdy, Randy Kelton, rule of law radio on this Thursday, the 30th day of
[03:44.160 --> 03:52.440]  August 2018, and I was going to start off talking about some research I've been doing
[03:52.440 --> 04:01.600]  in the blockchain, but we have a caller, our call lines are open, 512-646-1984, we'll
[04:01.600 --> 04:07.400]  have them open all night, and if I have a little problem understanding me that I understand
[04:07.400 --> 04:15.520]  me have some audio issues today, it's a problem with my end, my mixer went down and I'm having
[04:15.520 --> 04:17.920]  to use alternative equipment.
[04:17.920 --> 04:22.040]  Okay, we're going to go to Mark in Wisconsin.
[04:22.040 --> 04:23.040]  Hello, Mark.
[04:23.040 --> 04:29.720]  Hello, Mr. Kielson, and how are you otherwise on this fine day?
[04:29.720 --> 04:42.600]  I am good, I am very encouraged about some technological developments that will make
[04:42.600 --> 04:44.600]  a liar out of me.
[04:44.600 --> 04:50.960]  The reason it will make a liar out of me is I've been telling people who have called
[04:50.960 --> 04:58.520]  in for a long time that want to protect their privacy, want to keep government out of their
[04:58.520 --> 05:04.880]  completely out of their lives, I've been telling them that guys, that horse got out of the
[05:04.880 --> 05:18.200]  barn about 25 years ago, and we can't put it back, well, that might not exactly be true.
[05:18.200 --> 05:26.280]  Something is happening in the technology of the internet that may put that horse back
[05:26.280 --> 05:34.960]  in the barn, but right now, let's see what you've got going, Mark.
[05:34.960 --> 05:40.840]  Well, technologically speaking, we do have encryption that does help.
[05:40.840 --> 05:47.240]  I would say a bigger threat, though, is the corporations and their databases that they
[05:47.240 --> 05:53.880]  have on us, that we have exactly zero way of finding out what's in those databases in
[05:53.880 --> 06:01.440]  the U.S., at least with the government and some of the data they have via PIRs and FOIA,
[06:01.440 --> 06:06.640]  I might be able to find out about myself, and of course, if I did, well, then a bunch
[06:06.640 --> 06:10.920]  of stuff becomes available, but it won't do me much good to find out.
[06:10.920 --> 06:11.920]  Right.
[06:11.920 --> 06:18.520]  Well, we can't do much about what they've already got, but technology is about to slam
[06:18.520 --> 06:20.760]  the door on them.
[06:20.760 --> 06:27.200]  Have you done any research into the distributed web?
[06:27.200 --> 06:38.040]  I have done, and in fact, I have thought about the distributed web as part of a giant middle
[06:38.040 --> 06:43.960]  digit to various and sundry individuals and corporations and government.
[06:43.960 --> 06:56.160]  Ultimately, the distributed web, in using a version of torrenting in torrented websites...
[06:56.160 --> 06:57.480]  No, no, no.
[06:57.480 --> 07:02.320]  Torrents, just a methodology that's been around a long time, this is something else
[07:02.320 --> 07:03.320]  altogether.
[07:03.320 --> 07:04.320]  Okay.
[07:04.320 --> 07:05.320]  Well...
[07:05.320 --> 07:08.440]  Torrent, torrent is a form of peer-to-peer.
[07:08.440 --> 07:16.920]  We're going back to the original peer-to-peer networks on which the original internet was
[07:16.920 --> 07:17.920]  built.
[07:17.920 --> 07:18.920]  U-U-C-P?
[07:18.920 --> 07:27.240]  Well, not the same antiquated technologies, a lot more sophisticated.
[07:27.240 --> 07:28.240]  Okay.
[07:28.240 --> 07:33.600]  Initially, this all started with the Pentagon.
[07:33.600 --> 07:38.240]  The Pentagon found that they were paying for redundant research.
[07:38.240 --> 07:45.960]  They had colleges and they had contractors doing the same research, and they went to
[07:45.960 --> 07:50.480]  their IT guys and said, you guys, you've got to fix this.
[07:50.480 --> 07:55.640]  You need to find a way to connect all these computers together, so they set up a network
[07:55.640 --> 08:07.880]  with the Pentagon as the hub, and they leased in a 1-800 truck line from Mar-Bell at the
[08:07.880 --> 08:15.880]  time from the Pentagon to this university and from the Pentagon to this contractor,
[08:15.880 --> 08:18.000]  so they could all talk together.
[08:18.000 --> 08:25.720]  Well, that worked so good, the contractor and the university decided to rent their own
[08:25.720 --> 08:30.840]  800 line between themselves, and others did that, and they kind of wrapped around the
[08:30.840 --> 08:31.840]  Pentagon.
[08:31.840 --> 08:35.240]  The Pentagon looked at what was going on and they said, hold on guys, you've got to cut
[08:35.240 --> 08:36.240]  this out.
[08:36.240 --> 08:41.560]  And they said, heck with that, these are our 800 lines, we do what we want to work to.
[08:41.560 --> 08:47.360]  So the Pentagon told them, well, if you don't bring everything through us, we'll pull our
[08:47.360 --> 08:53.680]  hub, and they told them, go ahead, we don't care, we just wrap right around it.
[08:53.680 --> 08:57.160]  And the Internet grew out of that.
[08:57.160 --> 09:03.360]  The Pentagon created this monster for themselves, it got away from them.
[09:03.360 --> 09:10.840]  And originally all of the links were direct links, peer-to-peer.
[09:10.840 --> 09:17.440]  But it got to where we were trying to push too much information and at the time all of
[09:17.440 --> 09:23.040]  our computers were pretty much restricted in resources.
[09:23.040 --> 09:30.400]  So some companies got together and put together some large servers with massive storage and
[09:30.400 --> 09:37.080]  multiple processors so that they could act as an intermediary and speed up the Internet.
[09:37.080 --> 09:43.120]  So we started out peer-to-peer and then we went to a centralized network.
[09:43.120 --> 09:50.960]  Now I put in a call for something, say I do a search on the Internet and the information
[09:50.960 --> 09:53.360]  I need is on a server in Singapore.
[09:53.360 --> 09:59.760]  Well, I send a request to my server and my server puts it on the bottom of his stack.
[09:59.760 --> 10:03.560]  And the server has this stack of requests and it feeds them out of the guest room.
[10:03.560 --> 10:10.320]  Well, the server is pretty fast relative to my machine and it goes pretty quickly but
[10:10.320 --> 10:12.480]  it takes some time.
[10:12.480 --> 10:18.800]  And then it sends it to the next server and there may be eight jumps between me and Singapore.
[10:18.800 --> 10:23.000]  Outgoing, eight jumps coming back.
[10:23.000 --> 10:31.000]  Well, now the technology has increased to the point to where everybody, we were short
[10:31.000 --> 10:36.960]  on memory for the most part, memory processing speed.
[10:36.960 --> 10:43.480]  Now most of our processes are at or near four gig and that's as fast as we can get them
[10:43.480 --> 10:46.040]  with the current physics.
[10:46.040 --> 10:52.000]  Now the only way to increase speed is to stack processors and most of the standard programs
[10:52.000 --> 10:55.360]  will not do parallel processing.
[10:55.360 --> 11:04.320]  So my eight processor, 32 gig computer sitting here on my desk is essentially worthless unless
[11:04.320 --> 11:09.520]  I'm playing computer games because that's the only thing that can multithread.
[11:09.520 --> 11:11.520]  But anyway, we've got all this memory.
[11:11.520 --> 11:16.840]  Most everybody has more hard drive memory on their machines than they need.
[11:16.840 --> 11:24.480]  So with this new distributed web technology, they can take the information on the web and
[11:24.480 --> 11:31.200]  spread it out amongst all of the machines connected to the web.
[11:31.200 --> 11:34.560]  So I put in a call for the information I need.
[11:34.560 --> 11:38.720]  It's not in a server somewhere on the other side of the planet.
[11:38.720 --> 11:43.920]  It's spread all over the planet in hundreds of different machines.
[11:43.920 --> 11:51.440]  And those machines will feed that information back to me essentially at hundreds of times
[11:51.440 --> 11:59.720]  the processing speed because I don't have a set of stacks with a single machine in series.
[11:59.720 --> 12:05.040]  I have a whole parcel of machines in parallel sending this information back to me.
[12:05.040 --> 12:09.520]  It will dramatically speed up the web.
[12:09.520 --> 12:13.560]  And something happened about 10 or 12 years ago.
[12:13.560 --> 12:18.640]  Some idiot working for the government or some malicious person working for the government
[12:18.640 --> 12:27.560]  took the most secret, absolutely unbreakable crypto code we had and put it on a public
[12:27.560 --> 12:30.000]  website.
[12:30.000 --> 12:36.400]  And a couple of geeks stumbled across it, took them a while to realize what they were
[12:36.400 --> 12:37.400]  looking at.
[12:37.400 --> 12:43.200]  When they realized what they were looking at, they knew this could get real ugly, real
[12:43.200 --> 12:44.200]  fast.
[12:44.200 --> 12:48.640]  They immediately sent it to every computer they had a contact with.
[12:48.640 --> 12:52.880]  They sent it to thousands of computers around the world.
[12:52.880 --> 12:57.080]  You might say that bell rung pretty good.
[12:57.080 --> 13:00.600]  And even though the government tried to prosecute these guys and couldn't because they got it
[13:00.600 --> 13:05.960]  off the public website, can't unring that bell.
[13:05.960 --> 13:17.000]  That one's out and that is what enabled a crypto secured hyper ledger.
[13:17.000 --> 13:25.440]  You can take your files off that machine sitting there behind a firewall connected to the internet.
[13:25.440 --> 13:32.360]  Good luck on that firewall protecting you or in that lock safe in your cabinet.
[13:32.360 --> 13:40.160]  Good luck on that and disperse them on the web into a thousand pieces and each piece
[13:40.160 --> 13:47.440]  is protected by absolute, I can't say absolutely unbreakable crypto technology.
[13:47.440 --> 13:54.800]  It can be broken with a quantum computer theoretically, but theoretically because you don't have quantum
[13:54.800 --> 14:01.280]  computers yet, but even if you had a quantum computer and you could break the code to one
[14:01.280 --> 14:07.760]  machine, it only has a tiny piece of the information spread out all over the place.
[14:07.760 --> 14:12.200]  And when you crack that first one, the rest of them would know it and then they would
[14:12.200 --> 14:15.560]  move everything around so it wouldn't do any good.
[14:15.560 --> 14:18.880]  Essentially, it's not hackable.
[14:18.880 --> 14:22.960]  And this is what is being implemented now.
[14:22.960 --> 14:31.400]  What's more important from my perspective is we are able to use our decrypto currency,
[14:31.400 --> 14:38.640]  Bitcoin, Ether, Ethereum and a number of others.
[14:38.640 --> 14:41.440]  Greek got in trouble, got in financial trouble.
[14:41.440 --> 14:46.320]  They closed all the banks, I said Greek, Greece, and they closed all the banks.
[14:46.320 --> 14:50.520]  And when they reopened the banks, the people had half the money in it they did when the
[14:50.520 --> 14:53.000]  banks closed.
[14:53.000 --> 14:56.200]  Same thing happened in Turkey.
[14:56.200 --> 15:02.400]  And now people in those countries are scrambling to get their money out of the banks and into
[15:02.400 --> 15:09.200]  Bitcoin or Ethereum or another crypto-based currency.
[15:09.200 --> 15:16.400]  The banks can close all they want to, they can't touch the crypto currency because it's
[15:16.400 --> 15:21.440]  essentially outside anyone's jurisdiction.
[15:21.440 --> 15:27.240]  Just heard a story about some guy the government prosecuted and he had all of his funds in
[15:27.240 --> 15:31.680]  Bitcoin and they tried to force him to open it and he just refused.
[15:31.680 --> 15:36.320]  They could not give to it.
[15:36.320 --> 15:42.080]  This has the potential of rendering the banks irrelevant.
[15:42.080 --> 15:52.920]  And I won't go into all the complexity of how the blockchain is immutable and it creates
[15:52.920 --> 15:57.560]  a permanent record that can't be changed or adjusted.
[15:57.560 --> 16:04.800]  So all of the bookkeeping can be done in the distributed web and it can be done with smart
[16:04.800 --> 16:05.800]  contracts.
[16:05.800 --> 16:13.840]  So each transaction that occurs essentially does all its own bookkeeping at the same time.
[16:13.840 --> 16:24.840]  And all of your money is in the crypto currency on the internet in the cloud.
[16:24.840 --> 16:28.120]  Not down here in anybody's jurisdiction.
[16:28.120 --> 16:35.080]  And it's protected by the security that no country can break.
[16:35.080 --> 16:37.880]  The banks will become irrelevant.
[16:37.880 --> 16:41.640]  Fiat currencies will become irrelevant.
[16:41.640 --> 16:45.280]  Our currency can hyperinflate all it wants to.
[16:45.280 --> 16:51.560]  All the people have to do is take the currency they have, convert it to a crypto currency.
[16:51.560 --> 16:54.720]  And that fiat currency can do anything it wants to.
[16:54.720 --> 16:55.720]  They don't care.
[16:55.720 --> 16:56.720]  Hang on.
[16:56.720 --> 16:57.720]  Throw in the break.
[16:57.720 --> 16:58.720]  We'll be right back.
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[19:27.240 --> 19:33.800]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelkin, Deborah Stevens, rule of law radio on this Thursday, the 30th
[19:33.800 --> 19:41.600]  day of August 2018 and we're talking to Mark in Wisconsin, the kind of Bushwack Mark segwayed
[19:41.600 --> 19:43.520]  into what I wanted to talk about anyway.
[19:43.520 --> 19:51.240]  For me, this is the most exciting thing that's come along since I've been doing radio.
[19:51.240 --> 20:05.880]  The government has kept control over the public with our purse strings.
[20:05.880 --> 20:08.520]  They're about to lose control.
[20:08.520 --> 20:12.800]  They can take their fiat currency and do anything they want to with it.
[20:12.800 --> 20:16.720]  We simply do not need it.
[20:16.720 --> 20:21.640]  And they can't control us with the money, the government will wind up going back to
[20:21.640 --> 20:25.040]  what they should have been in the first place.
[20:25.040 --> 20:29.800]  The servant of the people and not the master.
[20:29.800 --> 20:36.760]  But you and I, we have to be diligent because do not think these government officials are
[20:36.760 --> 20:40.480]  going to go quietly into the night.
[20:40.480 --> 20:46.800]  They're going to do everything they can to rest control back from us.
[20:46.800 --> 20:48.840]  We have to make sure that don't happen.
[20:48.840 --> 20:51.360]  Okay, Mark, you had an issue.
[20:51.360 --> 20:53.360]  What was your question?
[20:53.360 --> 21:00.600]  Well, I'll send you some stuff on quantum resistant ledger, a couple of links that I
[21:00.600 --> 21:05.160]  have and some people that talked about that.
[21:05.160 --> 21:10.680]  The other thing is I like that history doesn't repeat but it rhymes.
[21:10.680 --> 21:19.120]  And remember that radio was the great thing in the 1920s and it was looking like it could
[21:19.120 --> 21:25.440]  challenge the status quo and the ability of corporations and the government to share
[21:25.440 --> 21:31.200]  with us, the citizens, what was going on in the same way that the movable type printing
[21:31.200 --> 21:36.080]  press did in the 1600s or that?
[21:36.080 --> 21:38.360]  It was 1453.
[21:38.360 --> 21:39.360]  1453.
[21:39.360 --> 21:40.600]  All right.
[21:40.600 --> 21:45.800]  So, well, that was movable type.
[21:45.800 --> 21:51.600]  How do you think I remembered that?
[21:51.600 --> 21:53.600]  The Gutenberg Bible.
[21:53.600 --> 21:54.600]  Okay.
[21:54.600 --> 21:55.600]  Okay.
[21:55.600 --> 21:56.600]  Yep.
[21:56.600 --> 22:04.320]  Martin Luther got text as a skeptic and interpreted it into the German and Gutenberg had just invented
[22:04.320 --> 22:07.400]  his press and he printed a whole bunch of Gutenberg Bibles.
[22:07.400 --> 22:08.400]  Okay.
[22:08.400 --> 22:09.400]  Anyway, sidetrack.
[22:09.400 --> 22:10.400]  Okay.
[22:10.400 --> 22:18.240]  Anyway, it's not necessarily sidetrack but what happened with radio and the regulation
[22:18.240 --> 22:22.840]  that followed to get control, I'll send you some links on that and...
[22:22.840 --> 22:23.840]  Okay.
[22:23.840 --> 22:24.840]  Hold on.
[22:24.840 --> 22:25.840]  Hold on.
[22:25.840 --> 22:26.840]  Okay.
[22:26.840 --> 22:31.680]  If you're going to say that radio did not have a dramatic impact, I'm going to say you
[22:31.680 --> 22:32.680]  are incorrect.
[22:32.680 --> 22:40.200]  Yes, the government did everything they could to get control but they didn't.
[22:40.200 --> 22:48.200]  They got partial control over some stations but to get guys like us out here, it did make
[22:48.200 --> 22:54.920]  a big difference and the government did get into it all they can.
[22:54.920 --> 22:57.240]  The internet is somewhat different.
[22:57.240 --> 23:06.960]  Remember when they tried to put in the... when Clinton tried to sell us on the internet
[23:06.960 --> 23:07.960]  superhighway?
[23:07.960 --> 23:15.040]  So boy, we will put in this internet backbone across the whole United States to make your
[23:15.040 --> 23:21.320]  internet superfast and everybody can have internet that's blistering fast.
[23:21.320 --> 23:30.600]  All you got to do is give the government regulatory control and what did the internet do?
[23:30.600 --> 23:37.880]  The internet told them to take your internet superhighway and cram it.
[23:37.880 --> 23:41.720]  Then I could not have been more pleased.
[23:41.720 --> 23:44.000]  Nobody was interested.
[23:44.000 --> 23:49.200]  Then the government come along and they said, we're going to put in wireless networks all
[23:49.200 --> 23:56.280]  over the country so that everybody has, even out in the booties, has fast internet.
[23:56.280 --> 24:03.960]  Well, that hadn't worked out for them because if it got everybody on wireless, the FCC controls
[24:03.960 --> 24:13.160]  the wireless and they blew that off so the internet has shielded itself and now this
[24:13.160 --> 24:22.840]  technology is way above the internet technology.
[24:22.840 --> 24:27.640]  This is a quantum leap ahead.
[24:27.640 --> 24:31.400]  We have an opportunity here.
[24:31.400 --> 24:33.720]  So I'm kind of excited.
[24:33.720 --> 24:39.480]  Nothing's absolute and you got to know that these people are going to do everything they
[24:39.480 --> 24:43.120]  can to block us but we have a real opportunity here.
[24:43.120 --> 24:49.800]  The legal reform community should pay close attention to the blockchain and the distributed
[24:49.800 --> 24:50.800]  web.
[24:50.800 --> 24:56.080]  It is tough to wrap your head around and it's new.
[24:56.080 --> 25:02.960]  So we have a bunch of geeks out there speaking geekology and nobody knows what they're talking
[25:02.960 --> 25:03.960]  about.
[25:03.960 --> 25:08.600]  I have the time they don't know what they're talking about trying to explain all this technology.
[25:08.600 --> 25:13.200]  They will take some sophistication before we can begin to explain it to people in a
[25:13.200 --> 25:20.240]  way that makes sense that what they don't know how to do is tell an ordinary individual
[25:20.240 --> 25:26.320]  that information they need to know without feeding them a bunch of junk they don't need.
[25:26.320 --> 25:27.320]  That's not important.
[25:27.320 --> 25:31.720]  It may be important to these guys who are building it but the guys who are using it
[25:31.720 --> 25:32.880]  don't care about it.
[25:32.880 --> 25:36.000]  So we're still in a growth period.
[25:36.000 --> 25:44.680]  So in five years everything could change if you have any money in any fiat based currency
[25:44.680 --> 25:48.680]  or any fiat based investment.
[25:48.680 --> 25:54.200]  Look very seriously at getting it out.
[25:54.200 --> 26:03.680]  At the first of the year the cryptocurrencies were in a bubble the banks sent the SEC to
[26:03.680 --> 26:08.720]  rattle its sabers at everybody and crashed the market and then the banks bought into
[26:08.720 --> 26:13.640]  it all they could so that they could be in on the bottom.
[26:13.640 --> 26:20.360]  The banks will do everything they can to do a series of pump and dumps.
[26:20.360 --> 26:29.040]  They will push and use the funds they have to create another bubble on the blockchain
[26:29.040 --> 26:31.360]  and then they'll crash the bubble.
[26:31.360 --> 26:37.880]  They'll push the prices up sell out high and use that sellout to crash the market and when
[26:37.880 --> 26:42.520]  the market bottoms out they'll take the very money they crashed the market with and buy
[26:42.520 --> 26:43.520]  back in.
[26:43.520 --> 26:50.680]  That's what they've been doing for 500 years and they're going to try to do the same thing
[26:50.680 --> 26:53.360]  to the crypto markets.
[26:53.360 --> 27:01.960]  It's up to us to find a way to block them from doing that.
[27:01.960 --> 27:06.440]  We have a chance to take control back.
[27:06.440 --> 27:11.040]  There's a lot of complaining and a lot of concern about one world government.
[27:11.040 --> 27:20.880]  I don't see that happening but what I do see is a one world internet private internet that
[27:20.880 --> 27:31.040]  operates outside of all of the world's jurisdictions and operates evenly everywhere and will eliminate
[27:31.040 --> 27:35.240]  the ability of any one particular power to take control.
[27:35.240 --> 27:36.240]  I'm excited.
[27:36.240 --> 27:40.360]  Okay Mark, never did get your questions.
[27:40.360 --> 27:44.560]  Well let's on the idea of jurisdiction.
[27:44.560 --> 27:53.440]  So in the process of myself, capital one which we will shorten to Capone, my ongoing battle
[27:53.440 --> 28:00.080]  with them, they've submitted to the state a document from a different part of the state
[28:00.080 --> 28:06.280]  saying that the only regulation that they are subject to is federal regulation.
[28:06.280 --> 28:18.240]  So a combination of actually the state apparently has ceded any regulation to the Consumer Financial
[28:18.240 --> 28:23.960]  Protection Bureau in 2000.
[28:23.960 --> 28:33.560]  So from a philosophy of law perspective, if there is no regulatory body in the state that
[28:33.560 --> 28:42.000]  regulates them, on what basis do they have power to then go to the state's court system
[28:42.000 --> 28:45.560]  to say we can use the court system for remedy?
[28:45.560 --> 28:48.560]  Yeah, that's collateral estoppel.
[28:48.560 --> 28:51.480]  Collateral estoppel, okay.
[28:51.480 --> 28:54.640]  They created the collateral estoppel.
[28:54.640 --> 29:00.680]  When they say that only federal law applies to them, then whether that's true or not
[29:00.680 --> 29:03.360]  is irrelevant.
[29:03.360 --> 29:11.560]  If someone's in a case with them and they come into that case and make this statement
[29:11.560 --> 29:19.400]  and based on that statement, the rights or positions of the litigants are altered, then
[29:19.400 --> 29:23.000]  the statement becomes collateral estoppel.
[29:23.000 --> 29:31.400]  They cannot come into another court and make a diametrically opposed statement.
[29:31.400 --> 29:41.160]  Even if the statement they made was false, they're collateral estopped from making statements
[29:41.160 --> 29:43.680]  in courts that are diametrically opposed.
[29:43.680 --> 29:45.680]  They have to be consistent.
[29:45.680 --> 29:46.680]  Okay.
[29:46.680 --> 29:51.320]  Well, of course, a start is the case in the state.
[29:51.320 --> 29:58.840]  So the initial position is that, but of course, what was interesting about regulations and
[29:58.840 --> 30:05.840]  regulations and regulations is that they have to be consistent with what the law says.
[30:05.840 --> 30:08.840]  And that's what the law says.
[30:08.840 --> 30:09.840]  Okay.
[30:09.840 --> 30:10.840]  Okay.
[30:10.840 --> 30:11.840]  Okay.
[30:11.840 --> 30:12.840]  Okay.
[30:12.840 --> 30:13.840]  Okay.
[30:13.840 --> 30:14.840]  Okay.
[30:14.840 --> 30:15.840]  Okay.
[30:15.840 --> 30:16.840]  Okay.
[30:16.840 --> 30:17.840]  Okay.
[30:17.840 --> 30:18.840]  Okay.
[30:18.840 --> 30:19.840]  Okay.
[30:19.840 --> 30:20.840]  Okay.
[30:20.840 --> 30:21.840]  Okay.
[30:21.840 --> 30:22.840]  Okay.
[30:22.840 --> 30:29.840]  Okay.
[30:52.840 --> 31:11.840]  Okay.
[31:11.840 --> 31:16.840]  Okay.
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[33:13.040 --> 33:27.040]  Yeah, Mr. Office, I've just taken the lighter hand. Won't you follow the law of the land?
[33:27.040 --> 33:43.040]  Yeah, I'll follow the law of the land.
[33:43.040 --> 33:57.040]  You've got power. When you're gonna stop abuse, you've got power.
[33:57.040 --> 34:02.040]  So please, Mr. Macklin, each officer has to abuse their power.
[34:02.040 --> 34:13.040]  Send a request to the leaders. They have picked up our officers. Tell them to uphold the law.
[34:13.040 --> 34:19.040]  Abuse, don't abuse their power. They beat and they beat and they cheat and they cheat and they lie every hour.
[34:19.040 --> 34:24.040]  So, Mr. Officer, please stop abusing your power.
[34:24.040 --> 34:32.040]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelkin with Logos Radio.
[34:32.040 --> 34:40.040]  Okay, Mark, where were we when we ran off the cliff?
[34:40.040 --> 34:48.040]  Oh, I'm having a little issue with my screen here. I have to refresh.
[34:48.040 --> 34:56.040]  It's not refreshing on its own, so I have to set you live. Okay, now we should be able to hear you, Mark.
[34:56.040 --> 35:00.040]  No, didn't take. Let's try that again.
[35:00.040 --> 35:04.040]  There we go. Collateral estoppel.
[35:04.040 --> 35:13.040]  Okay, if they're claiming on the one hand that they're only subject to federal law, then they don't have a state law remedy.
[35:13.040 --> 35:22.040]  Okay, well, I caught that in my appeal then. We'll see whether or not the state agrees with me.
[35:22.040 --> 35:28.040]  But interestingly, I have a letter from Texas and a letter from Virginia that says the same thing.
[35:28.040 --> 35:41.040]  So, it's quite possible here that every state where people are being sued over credit cards, they may all be stuck now only being able to get remedy at the fed,
[35:41.040 --> 35:45.040]  which would make it interesting for them, wouldn't it?
[35:45.040 --> 35:58.040]  So, that raises a question. If the feds were the only ones that had jurisdiction, why would the plaintiffs sue in the state instead of the fed?
[35:58.040 --> 36:00.040]  What are they afraid of?
[36:00.040 --> 36:11.040]  Well, I think it's simply because there is an 85 to 90% win rate by default in the state's small claims actions.
[36:11.040 --> 36:29.040]  According to the Wisconsin State Bar Magazine, they claim that, depending on the county, they have a 60% no answer default on the lowest to 95% no answer default wins on the highest.
[36:29.040 --> 36:38.040]  But once you have that no answer default win, it's very easy for you to walk into the bank and say, give me their money out of their accounts.
[36:38.040 --> 36:44.040]  So, the system is really greased for them.
[36:44.040 --> 36:59.040]  So, Wisconsin was one of the four states that redid part of its law to make it easier for collections and managed to make John Oliver's segment on bad debt and its collection.
[36:59.040 --> 37:06.040]  Wisconsin, Arkansas, Louisiana, and one other state redid their law to be more creditor friendly.
[37:06.040 --> 37:16.040]  It's also a whole lot cheaper in the state for them to file. It's, what, $400 rounding up to file in the Fed?
[37:16.040 --> 37:22.040]  And then all those federal judges upset about how many cases there are.
[37:22.040 --> 37:30.040]  In Milwaukee County alone, Capone is filing some 30 to 40 cases a week.
[37:30.040 --> 37:36.040]  And then there are a similar number of cases by proportionality across the whole state.
[37:36.040 --> 37:48.040]  They're very aggressive with their collections and they're them and synchronicity bank with coming in third, discover, and then some others.
[37:48.040 --> 37:53.040]  And some credit cards won't even bother suing. They just write the stuff off as bad debt.
[37:53.040 --> 38:01.040]  Unless there's a large amount of money or they've been pissed off in some way, shape, or form, the best I can tell.
[38:01.040 --> 38:15.040]  So, we need to talk to these people with debt issues and get them to move all of their liquid funds to a blockchain to a cryptocurrency.
[38:15.040 --> 38:23.040]  And then they're out of reach. Now they're not suing all they want to, but they can't get anything.
[38:23.040 --> 38:31.040]  Well, because, but here's the thing, is we're right back to where you said that the people have to become involved.
[38:31.040 --> 38:46.040]  Some large percentage of the no answer defaults don't even bother filing once they get the, they don't even file paperwork to stop the bank from seizing whatever assets they can glob onto.
[38:46.040 --> 38:50.040]  That's going to take a whole different remedy.
[38:50.040 --> 38:51.040]  Right.
[38:51.040 --> 38:58.040]  And I've got the next caller is Ken from Wisconsin. Didn't I send you a contact to Ken?
[38:58.040 --> 39:04.040]  And I've tried calling him a couple of times and I just keep getting his voice system.
[39:04.040 --> 39:09.040]  Ken, what is the problem?
[39:09.040 --> 39:11.040]  My problem?
[39:11.040 --> 39:15.040]  Yeah, Mark's been trying to reach you.
[39:15.040 --> 39:23.040]  Oh, really? Okay. Well, I saw a 414 number and I didn't know who it was.
[39:23.040 --> 39:24.040]  Yeah.
[39:24.040 --> 39:27.040]  Which has been my melodic tones you would have heard.
[39:27.040 --> 39:32.040]  Did it, did it have flake in parentheses next to it?
[39:32.040 --> 39:34.040]  What's that?
[39:34.040 --> 39:39.040]  I said, did it have flake in parentheses next to it?
[39:39.040 --> 39:44.040]  Never mind. Anyway, anyway, I want to bring you two guys together.
[39:44.040 --> 39:47.040]  Mark, Ken, Ken, Mark.
[39:47.040 --> 39:58.040]  Ken, you have some kind of state of Wisconsin constitutional thing you somehow have the delusion that I can help you with.
[39:58.040 --> 40:13.040]  Well, I'm on the village board and I'm not sure if you're aware of the home rule of amendment in the Constitution.
[40:13.040 --> 40:34.040]  And the way I read it, okay, well, the way I read it, it gives a village or a city the right to kind of supersede certain state laws.
[40:34.040 --> 40:53.040]  Yeah, okay. So I guess my question was to talk to someone more familiar with Wisconsin law because this sounds a lot different than Texas law.
[40:53.040 --> 41:04.040]  And what I'm trying to do is convince the board, you know, hey, we can, we can try this stuff and let's see what happens.
[41:04.040 --> 41:06.040]  All right.
[41:06.040 --> 41:18.040]  Okay. So let's just, let's just say we passed an ordinance that supersedes state law.
[41:18.040 --> 41:19.040]  Okay.
[41:19.040 --> 41:24.040]  And let's just say it's wrong.
[41:24.040 --> 41:27.040]  Okay. Let me interject.
[41:27.040 --> 41:34.040]  Mark, did you just say that in Wisconsin they have ordinances that supersede state law?
[41:34.040 --> 41:38.040]  That seems very counterintuitive.
[41:38.040 --> 41:45.040]  Well, go ahead, Ken.
[41:45.040 --> 41:57.040]  Well, let's see. See, that's the trouble. That's what some of the judges are saying is that, and they're trying to shoot it down or they have been trying.
[41:57.040 --> 41:59.040]  I mean, they've been doing it.
[41:59.040 --> 42:05.040]  But I think the language is pretty clear in the Constitution.
[42:05.040 --> 42:13.040]  And it says this can be accomplished in a way that the legislature shall prescribe.
[42:13.040 --> 42:33.040]  So you look it up in the statute and they, they, they say right out in the spirit of the 11th article, you know, we want these municipalities to give them this freedom.
[42:33.040 --> 42:43.040]  And this is how they do it. And this shall be liberally construed in favor of the villages or the municipalities.
[42:43.040 --> 42:49.040]  So to me, the language is pretty clear.
[42:49.040 --> 43:02.040]  And I don't yet see how these courts are jumbling it up to be able to override it.
[43:02.040 --> 43:05.040]  Okay, there's something we're missing.
[43:05.040 --> 43:14.040]  You're using a bunch of pronouns and one of the things we complain about on this show are pronouns because you know what it means.
[43:14.040 --> 43:19.040]  When you say they're over to overwrite it, but we don't know what it means.
[43:19.040 --> 43:24.040]  Can you give us just as briefly as you can?
[43:24.040 --> 43:31.040]  What is our, how is a municipal ordinance overriding state law?
[43:31.040 --> 43:45.040]  Let me explain why I think this sounds incongruous because state law is intended as a statutory implementation of constitutional requirements.
[43:45.040 --> 44:02.040]  And to say that a municipality can override a state law that has been enacted to, to insure the...
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[46:26.040 --> 46:48.040]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Denver Stevens on the radio on this Thursday, the 30th day of August, 2018.
[46:48.040 --> 47:03.040]  And we're talking to Mark and Ken in Wisconsin and Ken when we ran off the cliff again, which always gets me in trouble with my producer.
[47:03.040 --> 47:24.040]  I had this concern that since the state laws are implemented to enact the provisions of the Constitution, then the idea of a municipality overriding a state law is just counterintuitive.
[47:24.040 --> 47:36.040]  So there must be some focused area in which this can be done. Can you explain just briefly how that works?
[47:36.040 --> 47:55.040]  Okay, from what I can see, it's not a focused area where it can be done. It's a limited area where it cannot be done. It's specified, it cannot be done in issues of statewide concern.
[47:55.040 --> 48:11.040]  Okay, so whatever. Well, okay, that's pretty broad and that kind of makes the rest of it make sense.
[48:11.040 --> 48:25.040]  So they can only override state law in matters that are only pertinent or relevant to the municipality. Do I understand that right?
[48:25.040 --> 48:50.040]  Well, it says matters of statewide concern. Now, the question came up, you know, how do you determine that? Well, the courts have a complicated formula which seems to include everything, practically, that can't be done.
[48:50.040 --> 49:05.040]  But from what I've seen in the statute, certain statutes will have the thing at the beginning that says this is an issue of, this is a matter of statewide concern.
[49:05.040 --> 49:26.040]  So as far as my thought process was going, that these issues are identified by the legislature. And if they're not, then they have to go back and identify them because otherwise there's too much confusion.
[49:26.040 --> 49:45.040]  And it kind of nullifies the whole... Okay, I'm sorry, that didn't make sense. If these things, you're using pronouns, one of the things that I've come to object to the most are pronouns.
[49:45.040 --> 50:00.040]  We use pronouns because it seems to make our language more streamlined. But when you use a pronoun, I have to guess is what it or them or they or he or she refers to.
[50:00.040 --> 50:10.040]  Can you go back and do that and be more specific? Try not to use the pronoun and maybe we can make more sense of that.
[50:10.040 --> 50:34.040]  The section in the article of the Constitution specifies that we can't alter any law that has something to do with it, a matter of statewide concern.
[50:34.040 --> 50:51.040]  And that would make sense because if your municipality enacted a law that would affect someone from another part of the state that happened to be in the proximity of your municipality, then you would have conflicting laws.
[50:51.040 --> 51:08.040]  Right. And which would be fine and it would be ambiguous because then we have to figure out which issues are of statewide concern.
[51:08.040 --> 51:31.040]  But when I read the statute, well, actually I go to the Wisconsin statute and I search the term matter of statewide concern. Then the search comes up with a list of statutes that have this preamble on them.
[51:31.040 --> 51:43.040]  This says, for example, the selling of tobacco and alcohol is a matter of statewide concern and here are the regulations.
[51:43.040 --> 51:51.040]  Okay. So we can't decide in the village we're going to sell cigarettes to ten-year-olds because...
[51:51.040 --> 52:18.040]  Okay, a question. Is the list of matters that are of statewide concerns exclusive, meaning that anything that's not included in this list, the municipalities can address in a multiple?
[52:18.040 --> 52:28.040]  Or does it leave an open-ended issue where there could be other issues of statewide concern that are not included in this list?
[52:28.040 --> 52:51.040]  Well, I haven't gotten that far in researching this because I guess I haven't at the time. But if they do use that same verbiage, I mean the legislature, if they are using that verbiage in some laws,
[52:51.040 --> 53:11.040]  in my mind, if they have other issues that are of statewide concern that they don't want the municipalities messing around with, to me they have a duty to identify these.
[53:11.040 --> 53:30.040]  Exactly. There is a proverbial adage, Eddie Craig on Monday night, he quotes this in Latin and I never can remember it, but essentially what it says is what is not included is excluded.
[53:30.040 --> 53:48.040]  So if the legislature set down a list of what is included in this set, then anything that is not included in this set is excluded from the set.
[53:48.040 --> 54:06.040]  So you should be able to presume that any law that does not state that it is of statewide interest, then it's not of statewide interest and there's no vague opaque middle ground.
[54:06.040 --> 54:33.040]  That's what I'm assuming, but that's just my assumption. The legislature has not made this list and said this is okay and this is not okay. This list I'm talking about is just what comes up in the search when I search the statute for that term.
[54:33.040 --> 55:02.040]  I would think that you could reasonably claim that the legislature on creating a statute take pains to ensure that every single word included in the statute or excluded from the statute was included or excluded deliberately.
[55:02.040 --> 55:26.040]  So that if the legislature said these statutes are of statewide concern and they did not say these other statutes are of statewide concern, then it must be construed that these other statutes are not of statewide concern.
[55:26.040 --> 55:38.040]  Unless there is some attached case law or opinion that includes those in statewide concern.
[55:38.040 --> 56:02.040]  Did that make sense? Yeah, yeah, because that's the same line of thinking that I have. And I guess I wanted to, you know, that's why I wanted to talk to Mark or someone, you know, familiar with Wisconsin law to get a second opinion on that because maybe I'm dreaming.
[56:02.040 --> 56:14.040]  I think you are, I'm speaking for Mark here, but this sounds exactly like the territory he's loves to tread. Mark.
[56:14.040 --> 56:38.040]  Oh, really? Yeah, my first, my first, because I've been tangentially involved in a northern Wisconsin County regarding water and its water usage and the changes that have been brought by Governor Walker, the local board there has wrestled with this.
[56:38.040 --> 56:47.040]  But what came back from the local board, this should be your first consideration or a consideration before you delve too deeply.
[56:47.040 --> 57:08.040]  Assuming you pass something that gets challenged, is the town and the county willing to pony up for the lawyer and is there money available for the county lawyer to take this through the appellate court and possibly to the screens?
[57:08.040 --> 57:25.040]  If they're not willing to have the flight, you know, pick the hill you're going to die on or try to die on here, depending on if this has to do with water rights or covering wetlands, et cetera.
[57:25.040 --> 57:38.040]  Walker's done a lot on that and you'd need to look at what the latest guidance is in the Wisconsin Bar guidance for lawyer books that they sell for $130.
[57:38.040 --> 57:54.040]  But if you've got the rest of the board behind you that they're willing to die on that hill and willing to pass some ordinance to try to get it through the appellate and then to the Supremes, all power to you.
[57:54.040 --> 58:15.040]  But if the board is unwilling to, you know, play chicken and pay for the county attorney to do that, of course your county attorney also has not to be a drunkard like in the county I'm thinking of, where you wouldn't trust that attorney farther than you could throw a bloated corpse.
[58:15.040 --> 58:25.040]  You know, you've got to have an attorney who's at least worth a little something if you're going to try and go die on that hill.
[58:25.040 --> 58:34.040]  If you've got a pet attorney who's willing to do a pro bono for the county to die on that hill, then Godspeed to you.
[58:34.040 --> 58:46.040]  But it's a whole lot of convection with no point if nobody's willing to pony up through the attorney to make it happen, make a challenge happen.
[58:46.040 --> 58:50.040]  Mark, did you really use the metaphor?
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[01:00:50.040 --> 01:01:18.040]  Today in History, the year 1968, President Lyndon B. Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act of 1968, which prohibited private businesses from discriminating based on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin. It also prohibited unequal application of voter registration requirements, racial segregation in public schools, and employment, and public accommodations for places of business.
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[01:01:23.040 --> 01:01:52.040]  In recent news, tensions in Syria seem to have reached new levels after a chemical attack on civilians in the city of Douma, which left 40 dead and many injured, an attack which is being blamed on the democratically elected president of Syria, Bashar al-Assad, by the United States, and on Israel by Russia, either accusatory narrative without any verified evidence as of yet. President Trump tweeted today, Wednesday, that if, quote, Russia vows to shoot down any and all missiles fired at Syria, get ready, Russia, because they will be coming in nice and new and smart.
[01:01:52.040 --> 01:02:06.040]  Going on to warn Russia that you shouldn't be partners with a gas-killing animal who kills his people and enjoys it. Many in the West, including President Trump, have been quick to conclude that this chemical attack must have been conducted by Assad and his forces.
[01:02:06.040 --> 01:02:15.040]  Syria and Russia, on the other hand, have given approval since yesterday for the organization for the prohibition of chemical weapons to investigate the side of the chemical slaughter.
[01:02:15.040 --> 01:02:32.040]  Assad has been successful in maintaining rule and support during Syria's seven-year civil war, a civil war that is being fought by the government of Syria and anti-Assad Syrian rebels that are openly being funded by Western governments, with ISIS being one of the more notorious winter groups of the American-backed Syrian rebels.
[01:02:32.040 --> 01:02:51.040]  No surprise then why Russian Foreign Minister Spokeswoman Maria Zakoba posted on Facebook that smart missiles should be fired at terrorists and not at a legitimate government, which has been fighting terrorists. Or is this a trick to destroy all traces with a smart missile strike, and then there will be no evidence for international inspectors to look at?
[01:02:51.040 --> 01:03:03.040]  This was Frick Rody with your lowdown for April 11, 2018.
[01:03:21.040 --> 01:03:50.040]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, rule of our radio, and I'm still trying to get over
[01:03:50.040 --> 01:04:12.040]  that bloated corpse. Okay, Mark, but you do make a really good point, but sometimes when we get immersed in examining the legal issue, we forget one of my primary adages, you will never win your case simply because the law and the facts are on your side.
[01:04:12.040 --> 01:04:32.040]  To think so is naive. You will only win your case if politics is on your side and all politics is local. Mark, you addressed the political side, there are more things at work here, more influences at work here than just a rule of law.
[01:04:32.040 --> 01:04:47.040]  Ken? Your position, what do you think the council's position on the issues you're bringing is?
[01:04:47.040 --> 01:05:07.040]  Well, they did vote to send it to committee for further research and discussion, which is definitely a positive. They could have just killed the idea right off.
[01:05:07.040 --> 01:05:18.040]  But nobody really wants to talk too much about it until the committee is done with their research and stuff like that.
[01:05:18.040 --> 01:05:37.040]  So I am not exactly sure where everybody stands on it at the moment in their casual comments. Four out of seven sound supportive. The other ones, I don't know yet.
[01:05:37.040 --> 01:05:49.040]  I have yet to really give a full presentation on what the possibilities may be.
[01:05:49.040 --> 01:06:04.040]  I guess another question I have is this declaratory judgment. Is that something a person can get if you're not actively involved in a court case?
[01:06:04.040 --> 01:06:21.040]  Can you take that to a judge on a hypothetical situation and say, this is what the constitution says, this is what the statute says, so what stops us from doing this?
[01:06:21.040 --> 01:06:34.040]  That is a good question and that is actually an excellent question. It's not a question I had considered before.
[01:06:34.040 --> 01:06:52.040]  The courts have held that you cannot invoke the jurisdiction of the courts unless you bring an actual controversy. And in order for there to be a controversy, there has to be an injured party.
[01:06:52.040 --> 01:07:19.040]  And then the feds passed the declaratory judgment act and that seemed to give an alternative to where you could seek the ruling of the court declaring the rights of the parties or essentially potential parties.
[01:07:19.040 --> 01:07:39.040]  But if this is an issue to where there would be no actual controversy at the end of the day, can you go to the court and ask them to render a legal position on a hypothetical?
[01:07:39.040 --> 01:07:41.040]  Right.
[01:07:41.040 --> 01:07:43.040]  I don't think you'll be able to get there.
[01:07:43.040 --> 01:07:51.040]  You can avoid all the trouble of future litigation by knowing where you stand before you even do it.
[01:07:51.040 --> 01:08:05.040]  That is exactly the right way to state it because what the Declaratory Judgment Act says is that the court can declare the rights of the parties.
[01:08:05.040 --> 01:08:15.040]  If this goes to a particular party and a particular right to that party, then you should be able to invoke the court's jurisdiction.
[01:08:15.040 --> 01:08:26.040]  But if you just bring a hypothetical question without invoking the specific rights of an individual party, I don't think you would be able to get there.
[01:08:26.040 --> 01:08:36.040]  I don't think you would be able to get there.
[01:08:36.040 --> 01:08:46.040]  But then, and I'm not a lawyer and that's just my opinion from looking at law.
[01:08:46.040 --> 01:08:56.040]  I have this right, but there is a question as to whether or not the city has this right.
[01:08:56.040 --> 01:09:03.040]  And we come to you prior, this almost goes to pre-litigation discovery.
[01:09:03.040 --> 01:09:10.040]  There are statutes in the Fed and in most every state for pre-litigation discovery.
[01:09:10.040 --> 01:09:18.040]  What pre-litigation discovery is for is so you can say, I have reason to believe that I have a claim.
[01:09:18.040 --> 01:09:31.040]  But opposing, but the person who would be the opposing party has exclusive control over the information that I would need to determine whether or not I have a claim.
[01:09:31.040 --> 01:09:42.040]  And in the interest of judicial economy, I would ask the court to order discovery so I can determine whether or not I have a claim.
[01:09:42.040 --> 01:09:47.040]  Petition for the court's judgment is similar.
[01:09:47.040 --> 01:09:53.040]  I have these laws that appear to grant me this right or this privilege.
[01:09:53.040 --> 01:09:58.040]  I believe I have a right to this right of privilege.
[01:09:58.040 --> 01:10:02.040]  But I'm unsure.
[01:10:02.040 --> 01:10:13.040]  And before I waste the court's time by filing a civil action, I would ask the court to rule on a point of law.
[01:10:13.040 --> 01:10:18.040]  The declaratory judgment would have to go to a point of law.
[01:10:18.040 --> 01:10:25.040]  What does the law mean in this circumstance?
[01:10:25.040 --> 01:10:28.040]  Does that make sense, Ken?
[01:10:28.040 --> 01:10:30.040]  Exactly.
[01:10:30.040 --> 01:10:31.040]  Right.
[01:10:31.040 --> 01:10:34.040]  I'm with you 100% on that.
[01:10:34.040 --> 01:10:52.040]  My next question is, if this is done all through motions or for paperwork, could the village board designate one of us
[01:10:52.040 --> 01:11:08.040]  to represent, I don't know if that's the right word, but to file this paperwork as a board and leave the lawyer out of it?
[01:11:08.040 --> 01:11:11.040]  No, absolutely not.
[01:11:11.040 --> 01:11:14.040]  Okay.
[01:11:14.040 --> 01:11:16.040]  Mark, you had a comment.
[01:11:16.040 --> 01:11:23.040]  Yeah, almost all the boards and everything are done as corporations, so most likely you're incorporated.
[01:11:23.040 --> 01:11:32.040]  And Wisconsin is very clear LLCs can represent themselves in small claims.
[01:11:32.040 --> 01:11:39.040]  The owners of an LLC and otherwise individuals can represent themselves.
[01:11:39.040 --> 01:11:46.040]  And this is why I'm more than happy to play the games that I do because I'm representing myself.
[01:11:46.040 --> 01:11:52.040]  But they very much, nope, you've got to have that.
[01:11:52.040 --> 01:12:00.040]  Ultimately, it's wholesome versus busy B is the case law on that for you.
[01:12:00.040 --> 01:12:05.040]  So it's something versus busy B that talks about it as one of the controlling cases.
[01:12:05.040 --> 01:12:13.040]  So you're right back to, the board's got to be willing to put down the cash.
[01:12:13.040 --> 01:12:17.040]  And the attorney has to have the skill to do it.
[01:12:17.040 --> 01:12:26.040]  Now, again, there's nothing stopping if there was an attorney who would do the stuff pro bono from a larger law firm,
[01:12:26.040 --> 01:12:34.040]  the township and everybody could defer to that attorney to handle it, I believe.
[01:12:34.040 --> 01:12:42.040]  But otherwise, everybody in the county or in the municipality of the area is going to be on the hook for the lawyer fees.
[01:12:42.040 --> 01:12:51.040]  And you've got to make sure that hill you're going to die on is one that everybody politically is happy to pay for.
[01:12:51.040 --> 01:12:58.040]  Ken, do you have a Wisconsin Municipal League?
[01:12:58.040 --> 01:13:00.040]  Yes.
[01:13:00.040 --> 01:13:08.040]  I would not go to the Municipal League because this is likely to be an issue that would affect every municipality in the state,
[01:13:08.040 --> 01:13:12.040]  and they may be willing to step up.
[01:13:12.040 --> 01:13:17.040]  Well, that kind of is what got me started.
[01:13:17.040 --> 01:13:22.040]  They put out a magazine and one of their articles was about the home rule,
[01:13:22.040 --> 01:13:31.040]  and they basically said we should have the right to it according to what it says.
[01:13:31.040 --> 01:13:40.040]  We should use it more often, but the court increasingly have been shooting it down.
[01:13:40.040 --> 01:13:57.040]  And I'm not sure if these cases involve all these elements that I'm talking about, like the issue of which laws are of statewide concern.
[01:13:57.040 --> 01:14:16.040]  In my mind, like I say, they say they are. The ones that are say they are. But according to the court, they came up with some weird formula,
[01:14:16.040 --> 01:14:31.040]  and I believe the formula is just there to muddy the waters to maintain the control at the state level and not give it to the villages as the Constitution says they do.
[01:14:31.040 --> 01:14:49.040]  And just in case you're interested in looking up the Wisconsin Constitution, it's Article 11, Section 3, and that goes to Wisconsin Statute 66.01.01.
[01:14:49.040 --> 01:15:03.040]  So just anybody listening or Mark or Randy, I mean, anybody interested in checking this out, maybe you can read it and tell me I'm off my rocker.
[01:15:03.040 --> 01:15:16.040]  I don't know. To me it seems clear, but I guess you've been helpful so far, but really this wasn't the reason I called in.
[01:15:16.040 --> 01:15:21.040]  I had a different question. I didn't know Mark was going to be on the air.
[01:15:21.040 --> 01:15:29.040]  Okay, then I'm going to mute Mark because thank you, Mark. Did you have anything else you wanted to address Mark?
[01:15:29.040 --> 01:15:41.040]  Basically, I wanted to ask some things on the federal discovery, but you and I can chat about that some other day.
[01:15:41.040 --> 01:15:42.040]  I'll let you.
[01:15:42.040 --> 01:15:45.040]  Okay, I should be here tomorrow night. Can you call in tomorrow night?
[01:15:45.040 --> 01:15:47.040]  Sure, sure.
[01:15:47.040 --> 01:15:50.040]  Okay, we've got four hours tomorrow night, so I'll have more time.
[01:15:50.040 --> 01:15:53.040]  All right. Bye-bye.
[01:15:53.040 --> 01:16:00.040]  Okay, thanks, Mark. And make sure you two guys get your contact information right.
[01:16:00.040 --> 01:16:10.040]  Yeah, I'll check my phone. I saw a 414 number area code, so I'll have to call it back and see if it was him.
[01:16:10.040 --> 01:16:15.040]  I did call from all over, so I'll try that one.
[01:16:15.040 --> 01:16:22.040]  But the reason I called in was my daughter lived in Wisconsin.
[01:16:22.040 --> 01:16:30.040]  She got married five years ago and moved to Missouri, and she came back up to visit.
[01:16:30.040 --> 01:16:40.040]  She had a Missouri driver's license, and her Wisconsin driver's license expired.
[01:16:40.040 --> 01:16:43.040]  I hear music.
[01:16:43.040 --> 01:16:49.040]  Well, I'll go off the cliff this time, I guess.
[01:16:49.040 --> 01:16:56.040]  She crossed a street that was under construction, and she got stuck in the pan, and she called it.
[01:16:56.040 --> 01:16:59.040]  Okay, hang on. Hang on. About to go to break. We'll be right back.
[01:16:59.040 --> 01:17:03.040]  Okay.
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[01:19:37.040 --> 01:19:46.040]  Okay. We are back, Randy Kelken.
[01:19:46.040 --> 01:19:48.040]  We're talking to Kin in Wisconsin.
[01:19:48.040 --> 01:19:49.040]  Okay.
[01:19:49.040 --> 01:19:54.040]  Your daughter has had a Wisconsin license.
[01:19:54.040 --> 01:19:55.040]  She moved to Missouri.
[01:19:55.040 --> 01:19:58.040]  A letter of Wisconsin license expired.
[01:19:58.040 --> 01:20:03.040]  I take it she got a valid Missouri license.
[01:20:03.040 --> 01:20:04.040]  Yeah.
[01:20:04.040 --> 01:20:09.040]  means she's back in Wisconsin and gets stuck in a road or something.
[01:20:09.040 --> 01:20:10.040]  Okay.
[01:20:10.040 --> 01:20:11.040]  Right.
[01:20:11.040 --> 01:20:17.540]  She, she, she, uh, across street was under construction and they had moved the, uh, the
[01:20:17.540 --> 01:20:19.040]  road closed sign.
[01:20:19.040 --> 01:20:26.120]  So she thought she could just cross, get across this while she got stuck and she called a tow
[01:20:26.120 --> 01:20:31.720]  truck and in Wisconsin a tow truck automatically has to call the cops.
[01:20:31.720 --> 01:20:32.720]  Okay.
[01:20:32.720 --> 01:20:40.720]  So the cop came and gave her a ticket for, uh, failure to obey a, a traffic sign.
[01:20:40.720 --> 01:20:41.720]  Okay.
[01:20:41.720 --> 01:20:43.720]  Even though the signs were moved.
[01:20:43.720 --> 01:20:52.480]  Um, but the weird thing was she gave him her Missouri driver's license and he filled
[01:20:52.480 --> 01:21:01.880]  out the ticket with all of her old Wisconsin information, her old address, her old, um,
[01:21:01.880 --> 01:21:11.160]  uh, driver's license number, uh, and, and that license was expired and she had the physical
[01:21:11.160 --> 01:21:18.960]  Missouri license to give him and she did give it to him, but he, he put all this old information
[01:21:18.960 --> 01:21:25.400]  on the ticket and I wonder if you've ever heard of something like, oh, yes.
[01:21:25.400 --> 01:21:26.400]  Okay.
[01:21:26.400 --> 01:21:35.320]  This is one of the things, now you're in my area, okay, charge the officer with aggravated
[01:21:35.320 --> 01:21:36.320]  perjury.
[01:21:36.320 --> 01:21:37.320]  Okay.
[01:21:37.320 --> 01:21:43.360]  These guys, these guys want to play hardball.
[01:21:43.360 --> 01:21:46.200]  They want to file criminal charges against you.
[01:21:46.200 --> 01:21:56.440]  He's called out to a supposed offense that he did not observe.
[01:21:56.440 --> 01:22:04.560]  He has no power to issue a citation for an offense he did not observe.
[01:22:04.560 --> 01:22:10.880]  He has to personally see or hear the offense being committed and then when he is given,
[01:22:10.880 --> 01:22:17.400]  did he cite your daughter for, uh, driving an invalid license?
[01:22:17.400 --> 01:22:18.400]  No.
[01:22:18.400 --> 01:22:19.400]  Okay.
[01:22:19.400 --> 01:22:30.160]  What was the importance of the fact that he used in, uh, old Wisconsin information?
[01:22:30.160 --> 01:22:37.000]  Well, he, he said, if something was wrong with the system, he was trying to bring up
[01:22:37.000 --> 01:22:43.320]  for Missouri information, but it, it didn't come up and this, and also the plates on the
[01:22:43.320 --> 01:22:51.400]  car, current place registered in Missouri was also not coming up on his system.
[01:22:51.400 --> 01:23:00.680]  So he decided to use the old Wisconsin information, even though he had the physical Missouri driver's
[01:23:00.680 --> 01:23:02.960]  license in his hand.
[01:23:02.960 --> 01:23:03.960]  Okay.
[01:23:03.960 --> 01:23:06.960]  What, what is the importance of that?
[01:23:06.960 --> 01:23:12.560]  How did that act affect the rights of your daughter?
[01:23:12.560 --> 01:23:19.960]  Uh, did the officer write a citation?
[01:23:19.960 --> 01:23:23.640]  Well, it's okay.
[01:23:23.640 --> 01:23:29.960]  Let's just say, um, he didn't have, let's just say she never had a Wisconsin driver's
[01:23:29.960 --> 01:23:38.800]  license and only had the Missouri license, wouldn't he be obligated to use the current
[01:23:38.800 --> 01:23:40.360]  in, information on?
[01:23:40.360 --> 01:23:41.360]  No, no, no.
[01:23:41.360 --> 01:23:42.360]  Okay.
[01:23:42.360 --> 01:23:43.360]  Hold up.
[01:23:43.360 --> 01:23:44.360]  Hold on.
[01:23:44.360 --> 01:23:46.360]  You put yourself in the place of, of the policeman.
[01:23:46.360 --> 01:23:51.040]  The policeman is using the best information he has available.
[01:23:51.040 --> 01:24:01.040]  The policeman should be able to access information from Missouri because Missouri and Wisconsin
[01:24:01.040 --> 01:24:04.480]  both, oh wait a minute, hold on.
[01:24:04.480 --> 01:24:15.720]  There are four states that do not participate in the driver compact, driver's license compact.
[01:24:15.720 --> 01:24:21.600]  And if I remember right, Wisconsin is one of them.
[01:24:21.600 --> 01:24:27.560]  Wisconsin, Tennessee, and there's two others.
[01:24:27.560 --> 01:24:34.360]  The importance of that is those states that in, that participate in the driver compact,
[01:24:34.360 --> 01:24:36.440]  they share information.
[01:24:36.440 --> 01:24:43.840]  And this may be why the officer was not able to access Missouri information because Wisconsin
[01:24:43.840 --> 01:24:48.960]  does not participate in the driver's license compact.
[01:24:48.960 --> 01:24:59.920]  But so I'm a police officer and I only, I have someone that is vehicle is in a position
[01:24:59.920 --> 01:25:12.760]  that appears to be in violation of road signage, except the signage has been removed.
[01:25:12.760 --> 01:25:15.000]  So what does the policeman do?
[01:25:15.000 --> 01:25:21.760]  He gets a license from Missouri, but he has no way of knowing if that license valid or
[01:25:21.760 --> 01:25:22.760]  not.
[01:25:22.760 --> 01:25:29.960]  But he finds the information on the person from Missouri, I'm sorry, from Wisconsin.
[01:25:29.960 --> 01:25:33.480]  So he uses the information from Wisconsin.
[01:25:33.480 --> 01:25:41.240]  At this point, I can find no violation of the right of your daughter.
[01:25:41.240 --> 01:25:45.360]  Did the officer write a citation?
[01:25:45.360 --> 01:25:48.200]  Yes.
[01:25:48.200 --> 01:25:49.200]  What was the citation?
[01:25:49.200 --> 01:25:59.520]  He gave her a citation for something to the effect of failure to obey a traffic sign.
[01:25:59.520 --> 01:26:09.760]  Okay, charged the officer, was there a visible traffic sign that she, that the officer could
[01:26:09.760 --> 01:26:12.120]  true, she disobeyed.
[01:26:12.120 --> 01:26:14.280]  You said the signs were removed.
[01:26:14.280 --> 01:26:18.480]  Well, they were not, they were not removed.
[01:26:18.480 --> 01:26:22.160]  They were moved to the side of the road.
[01:26:22.160 --> 01:26:25.160]  So the truck.
[01:26:25.160 --> 01:26:28.040]  Okay, wait a minute, to the side of the road.
[01:26:28.040 --> 01:26:35.520]  Does that mean that they were set in a position such that a reasonable person of ordinary
[01:26:35.520 --> 01:26:43.960]  prudence would look at those signs and see those signs as being stored in that place
[01:26:43.960 --> 01:26:53.560]  as opposed to being signs that were set for the purpose of directing traffic?
[01:26:53.560 --> 01:26:55.320]  I would have to ask her.
[01:26:55.320 --> 01:27:02.680]  I don't know if they were perpendicular to traffic or if they were along the side of
[01:27:02.680 --> 01:27:08.840]  the road, you know, parallel to- Okay, if I'm driving down a road and a sign is positioned
[01:27:08.840 --> 01:27:16.840]  so that the face of the sign is pointing directly at me, and it's not sitting there in conjunction
[01:27:16.840 --> 01:27:27.440]  with other things like cones and a garbage can and some motorized equipment, and the
[01:27:27.440 --> 01:27:30.640]  signs just sitting there in amongst them.
[01:27:30.640 --> 01:27:33.920]  And if I see it just in amongst a bunch of other stuff, I'm just going to think it's
[01:27:33.920 --> 01:27:39.560]  being stored over there, or if there's a half a dozen signs sitting there and one of them
[01:27:39.560 --> 01:27:46.920]  has to be pointing at me, I'm not going to assume that that one sign that happens to
[01:27:46.920 --> 01:27:52.120]  be pointing at me is for the purpose of directing my traffic.
[01:27:52.120 --> 01:28:00.480]  But if the sign is sitting in a position where I would, a reasonable person of ordinary prudence
[01:28:00.480 --> 01:28:10.480]  is accustomed to seeing signs that address or that regulate traffic, then I would assume
[01:28:10.480 --> 01:28:14.600]  that regulates my traffic, but it's sitting in a position, say it's sitting where it would
[01:28:14.600 --> 01:28:18.720]  normally be, but it's turned 45 degrees.
[01:28:18.720 --> 01:28:26.960]  Well if that thing, if the state meant for that to address or direct traffic, it would
[01:28:26.960 --> 01:28:33.400]  be pointed at me, not in some other direction, and okay, some kid could have come along and
[01:28:33.400 --> 01:28:39.000]  threw a bottle at it, turned it, not my issue.
[01:28:39.000 --> 01:28:44.800]  It has to be clear that that sign is directing, is intended to direct my behavior, and that's
[01:28:44.800 --> 01:28:52.240]  the question to ask, was there a signage that a reasonable person of ordinary prudence
[01:28:52.240 --> 01:29:00.800]  could look at, and be relatively certain that that signage was intended to direct traffic?
[01:29:00.800 --> 01:29:07.760]  If there's any question as to whether or not it was intended to direct traffic, then the
[01:29:07.760 --> 01:29:10.920]  signage is improper.
[01:29:10.920 --> 01:29:19.840]  Okay, I'll have to ask her, I don't know if she took any pictures or anything like that,
[01:29:19.840 --> 01:29:24.360]  you know, I do know in Wisconsin.
[01:29:24.360 --> 01:29:32.200]  There is a glaring problem here, okay, this is relatively consistent across all of the
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[01:33:46.920 --> 01:33:52.800]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens of RealVlog Radio on this August the 30th, 2018.
[01:33:52.800 --> 01:33:56.120]  We're talking to Ken in Wisconsin.
[01:33:56.120 --> 01:34:11.240]  Ken, what I'm going to hear is the authority of the officer to issue a criminal accusation.
[01:34:11.240 --> 01:34:19.720]  If he did not personally, you know, the fact that your daughter's car was in a place that
[01:34:19.720 --> 01:34:26.880]  the officer could look at and construe that that car shouldn't have been in that place.
[01:34:26.880 --> 01:34:37.280]  The question becomes, did the person ignore a traffic control device that was properly
[01:34:37.280 --> 01:34:38.280]  positioned?
[01:34:38.280 --> 01:34:46.840]  Because the officer is accusing her of committing a criminal act, and, you know, maybe to the
[01:34:46.840 --> 01:34:49.640]  officer, that's not a big deal.
[01:34:49.640 --> 01:34:56.360]  But to a person who considers himself a law-abiding citizen, that is a big deal.
[01:34:56.360 --> 01:34:59.960]  So he has to follow the rules.
[01:34:59.960 --> 01:35:02.960]  Every rule.
[01:35:02.960 --> 01:35:06.200]  Not just the ones he finds convenient.
[01:35:06.200 --> 01:35:10.720]  Now I understand the officer's busy.
[01:35:10.720 --> 01:35:20.000]  He goes to a domestic violence call, to a robbery in progress, oh, one thing after another,
[01:35:20.000 --> 01:35:27.280]  and then he comes to somebody whose car stuck in a construction area.
[01:35:27.280 --> 01:35:30.040]  Big deal.
[01:35:30.040 --> 01:35:37.520]  But officers tend to be cranked up, and they tend not to, they tend to forget that everybody
[01:35:37.520 --> 01:35:40.120]  is not a criminal.
[01:35:40.120 --> 01:35:43.560]  And sometimes they act inappropriately.
[01:35:43.560 --> 01:35:49.680]  And I do not suggest that you file criminal charges against an officer in order to damage
[01:35:49.680 --> 01:35:52.960]  his career.
[01:35:52.960 --> 01:35:57.160]  Don't care about the officer's career.
[01:35:57.160 --> 01:36:04.560]  By that I mean, I have no reason to damage his career.
[01:36:04.560 --> 01:36:10.280]  And I also have no reason to protect his career.
[01:36:10.280 --> 01:36:14.840]  I think of police officers like I do my grandkids.
[01:36:14.840 --> 01:36:17.040]  I love them dearly.
[01:36:17.040 --> 01:36:22.040]  But if one of them runs out on the road, I'm fiction to tan his hide.
[01:36:22.040 --> 01:36:29.440]  So if a police officer, because he's busy, and he's distracted, and he's got other things
[01:36:29.440 --> 01:36:44.080]  on his mind, he does what is most convenient for himself, and most expedient for himself.
[01:36:44.080 --> 01:36:47.560]  Not acceptable.
[01:36:47.560 --> 01:36:53.760]  You and I, we are the masters of our servants.
[01:36:53.760 --> 01:37:00.320]  And our servants have gotten out of line because you and I as the masters did not rail in righteous
[01:37:00.320 --> 01:37:07.120]  indignation at the first intrusion onto our rights for our liberty.
[01:37:07.120 --> 01:37:10.800]  We waited until things got outrageous.
[01:37:10.800 --> 01:37:15.240]  And when they get outrageous, then we say, if we take any action now, we'll destroy this
[01:37:15.240 --> 01:37:18.080]  officer's career.
[01:37:18.080 --> 01:37:19.560]  That's not the time to sting him.
[01:37:19.560 --> 01:37:28.240]  It's when he does something relatively minor that won't ruin his career, but just make
[01:37:28.240 --> 01:37:33.560]  him look bad and annoy and frustrate him and make him not want to give you again.
[01:37:33.560 --> 01:37:41.840]  So the officer comes to a situation he did not observe.
[01:37:41.840 --> 01:37:50.160]  And he personally decides that a crime has been committed when he has no first-person
[01:37:50.160 --> 01:37:59.880]  knowledge that a crime has been committed, filed criminally against him, for efficient
[01:37:59.880 --> 01:38:06.800]  oppression, or for aggravated perjury.
[01:38:06.800 --> 01:38:13.560]  I like to file the most outrageous claim I can against an officer.
[01:38:13.560 --> 01:38:18.120]  In Texas, we have some peculiar laws that let me charge an officer with first-degree
[01:38:18.120 --> 01:38:22.000]  felony aggravated assault.
[01:38:22.000 --> 01:38:28.920]  Top pulls me over for an expired registration, and I charge him with first-degree felony
[01:38:28.920 --> 01:38:29.920]  aggravated assault.
[01:38:29.920 --> 01:38:35.040]  There's no way I'm going to get him indicted for first-degree felony aggravated assault.
[01:38:35.040 --> 01:38:37.960]  It's not the point.
[01:38:37.960 --> 01:38:45.720]  The point is to remind him that the law is here to protect assault and you're to follow
[01:38:45.720 --> 01:38:46.720]  it.
[01:38:46.720 --> 01:38:52.560]  So in this case, the officer didn't hear here the offense being committed.
[01:38:52.560 --> 01:38:56.040]  He doesn't know what actually happened.
[01:38:56.040 --> 01:39:05.760]  So he does not have reasonable, probable cause to believe that a crime has been committed
[01:39:05.760 --> 01:39:09.240]  and that your daughter committed a crime.
[01:39:09.240 --> 01:39:16.480]  He filed a criminal accusation claiming that he did have cause to believe that your daughter
[01:39:16.480 --> 01:39:19.640]  committed a crime.
[01:39:19.640 --> 01:39:24.280]  Charge him with aggravated perjury.
[01:39:24.280 --> 01:39:28.480]  That will be so much fun, you won't believe it.
[01:39:28.480 --> 01:39:37.680]  The perjury for, not for the Wisconsin information, but for claims.
[01:39:37.680 --> 01:39:44.400]  Writing the citation and putting a statement on the citation that he had reason to believe
[01:39:44.400 --> 01:39:51.760]  and did believe that your daughter committed this crime, he may have actually believed
[01:39:51.760 --> 01:39:59.360]  she did, but he did not have reasonable reason to believe under law.
[01:39:59.360 --> 01:40:03.000]  He committed aggravated perjury.
[01:40:03.000 --> 01:40:09.880]  So he would be required to have actually witnessed her drive past the sign?
[01:40:09.880 --> 01:40:10.880]  Exactly.
[01:40:10.880 --> 01:40:11.880]  Right?
[01:40:11.880 --> 01:40:12.880]  Okay.
[01:40:12.880 --> 01:40:22.360]  If somebody else witnessed her past the sign, somebody else could have filed a complaint,
[01:40:22.360 --> 01:40:24.360]  not him.
[01:40:24.360 --> 01:40:26.360]  Okay.
[01:40:26.360 --> 01:40:35.280]  So, you've got to know, there is no way this officer will ever get charged with or convicted
[01:40:35.280 --> 01:40:40.560]  for aggravated perjury and you don't want that to happen.
[01:40:40.560 --> 01:40:53.800]  We're grownups, you know, I'm a grandpa and it is my job to teach my children and my grandchildren.
[01:40:53.800 --> 01:40:56.920]  They don't have to like it.
[01:40:56.920 --> 01:41:02.160]  It's not my job to harm them or injure them in any way, it's my job to teach them.
[01:41:02.160 --> 01:41:10.840]  And sometimes I have to give them lessons that they don't find amusing.
[01:41:10.840 --> 01:41:11.840]  Right.
[01:41:11.840 --> 01:41:18.440]  Like, you know, my grandchildren, I love them dearly, but one of them, if one of them runs
[01:41:18.440 --> 01:41:28.200]  out in the road, I'm fixing to tan his hide, not out of anger, not out of avarice, but to
[01:41:28.200 --> 01:41:36.320]  ensure that he doesn't do this when a car is coming, he could be killed.
[01:41:36.320 --> 01:41:40.240]  It's out of respect and it's out of care.
[01:41:40.240 --> 01:41:46.760]  It is your job and my job to train our policemen.
[01:41:46.760 --> 01:41:58.040]  Our policemen sometimes forget that 6% of the population commits 95 or 96% of the crime.
[01:41:58.040 --> 01:41:59.520]  That's right.
[01:41:59.520 --> 01:42:06.400]  They keep arresting the same criminals over and over and over and every once in a while,
[01:42:06.400 --> 01:42:13.400]  they come across one of us, the citizens they work for.
[01:42:13.400 --> 01:42:20.800]  But they tend to treat us as if we're in the same category as that 6%.
[01:42:20.800 --> 01:42:30.320]  We are not and it is our job to let them know that we are not a member of that community.
[01:42:30.320 --> 01:42:36.640]  You mess with us and you do so at your peril.
[01:42:36.640 --> 01:42:42.000]  We need our policemen to remember who they're there to protect and the way to do it.
[01:42:42.000 --> 01:42:45.600]  This is a perfect example of how to do it.
[01:42:45.600 --> 01:42:46.840]  Okay.
[01:42:46.840 --> 01:42:52.040]  Your daughter doesn't have to file criminal charges against this officer.
[01:42:52.040 --> 01:42:54.040]  You could do that.
[01:42:54.040 --> 01:42:55.920]  Oh really?
[01:42:55.920 --> 01:43:01.640]  You have standing and there is nothing worse than having a third party sharpshooter come
[01:43:01.640 --> 01:43:04.640]  after you.
[01:43:04.640 --> 01:43:08.040]  You got no way to deal with that third party.
[01:43:08.040 --> 01:43:15.160]  I just had someone that I've been working with a while, he went into court today and
[01:43:15.160 --> 01:43:21.720]  he had filed criminal charges against this judge and in this hearing the judge warned
[01:43:21.720 --> 01:43:25.440]  him that he had to be careful when he filed those criminal charges.
[01:43:25.440 --> 01:43:28.320]  He could get in a lot of trouble.
[01:43:28.320 --> 01:43:34.880]  I wanted to know, did you ask the baitiff to arrest the judge?
[01:43:34.880 --> 01:43:42.680]  You are the master, they are the servants and they are never to forget it.
[01:43:42.680 --> 01:43:49.120]  I would have standing because I'm her dad or just because I'm a citizen.
[01:43:49.120 --> 01:43:50.120]  Okay.
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[01:46:32.120 --> 01:46:40.480]  Somebody's on the police, that police man, somebody's on the police, the police.
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[01:47:02.800 --> 01:47:07.440]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton with La Radio and I'm being cheered out by my producer
[01:47:07.440 --> 01:47:10.520]  because I'm spending too much time.
[01:47:10.520 --> 01:47:18.600]  Ken, this is a subject that's close to my heart, so I'm prone to spend a lot of time
[01:47:18.600 --> 01:47:19.600]  on it.
[01:47:19.600 --> 01:47:23.280]  Would you be open to calling me back tomorrow or not?
[01:47:23.280 --> 01:47:33.560]  So, I understand it, just because I'm a witness to what this officer did, that gives me the
[01:47:33.560 --> 01:47:38.120]  reasonable belief to file a...
[01:47:38.120 --> 01:47:41.360]  You don't have to be a witness.
[01:47:41.360 --> 01:47:46.640]  If say my next-door neighbor has, she sees somebody, kills somebody behind her house
[01:47:46.640 --> 01:47:54.200]  and she knows this guy and she's terrified of this guy and she's afraid to do anything.
[01:47:54.200 --> 01:48:05.160]  If I believe my neighbor, I not only have standing, I have a statutory duty to report crime.
[01:48:05.160 --> 01:48:07.080]  Okay, good.
[01:48:07.080 --> 01:48:13.440]  So, if you have knowledge that a crime has been committed, then you have a duty to report
[01:48:13.440 --> 01:48:19.240]  that crime and when you report that crime, you are absolutely protected.
[01:48:19.240 --> 01:48:21.560]  I just had the...
[01:48:21.560 --> 01:48:29.480]  Brett sent me some emails today or some texts today about he went to court and he had already
[01:48:29.480 --> 01:48:35.760]  filed criminal charges against this judge and the judge told him that he had to be very careful
[01:48:35.760 --> 01:48:37.200]  when filing criminal charges.
[01:48:37.200 --> 01:48:40.160]  He could get in trouble.
[01:48:40.160 --> 01:48:48.320]  I said, Brett, did you ask the plaintiff to arrest the judge for tampering with a witness?
[01:48:48.320 --> 01:48:57.400]  When you file a criminal complaint, you do not have to have personal knowledge.
[01:48:57.400 --> 01:49:08.560]  What the complaint says is, I have reason to believe and I do believe.
[01:49:08.560 --> 01:49:11.320]  That's all it requires.
[01:49:11.320 --> 01:49:19.600]  If someone tells me that a crime has been committed and I believe that person, I have
[01:49:19.600 --> 01:49:21.240]  a duty to file.
[01:49:21.240 --> 01:49:23.760]  Okay, isn't that...
[01:49:23.760 --> 01:49:25.640]  And, okay, one more thing.
[01:49:25.640 --> 01:49:33.240]  When I do file, I become a protected class.
[01:49:33.240 --> 01:49:42.680]  If anyone says anything to me that I can in any way take as a threat, I file a criminal
[01:49:42.680 --> 01:49:43.840]  against them.
[01:49:43.840 --> 01:49:50.960]  So, when the judge told Brett, you need to be careful, you could get in trouble, bang,
[01:49:50.960 --> 01:49:59.560]  witness tampering, retaliation, 3605, 3606 penal code, every state in the union has a
[01:49:59.560 --> 01:50:06.960]  statute to protect witnesses when they give notice of crime.
[01:50:06.960 --> 01:50:07.960]  Okay.
[01:50:07.960 --> 01:50:08.960]  That puts...
[01:50:08.960 --> 01:50:15.680]  I'm not doing that same thing because he's going beyond that and saying that he actually
[01:50:15.680 --> 01:50:18.800]  witnessed it when he didn't witness it.
[01:50:18.800 --> 01:50:21.520]  He just had reason to believe it.
[01:50:21.520 --> 01:50:23.160]  Okay, that's a big deal.
[01:50:23.160 --> 01:50:25.280]  Now that becomes a big deal.
[01:50:25.280 --> 01:50:26.280]  Okay.
[01:50:26.280 --> 01:50:27.280]  Okay.
[01:50:27.280 --> 01:50:28.280]  I got it.
[01:50:28.280 --> 01:50:29.960]  This is an aggravated projury.
[01:50:29.960 --> 01:50:34.320]  Would you call in tomorrow night when I've got a four-hour show and I've got more time?
[01:50:34.320 --> 01:50:39.920]  I've spent a lot of time here, I've got Brett Barrett from Colorado who's been waiting an
[01:50:39.920 --> 01:50:40.920]  hour and a half.
[01:50:40.920 --> 01:50:41.920]  I appreciate it.
[01:50:41.920 --> 01:50:45.880]  I didn't mean to take up all this time that...
[01:50:45.880 --> 01:50:46.880]  No, no, no.
[01:50:46.880 --> 01:50:52.600]  I only let someone take up time when they have a good subject and good information.
[01:50:52.600 --> 01:50:57.480]  So, it is good information and you went to the ticket thing which is close to my heart
[01:50:57.480 --> 01:51:02.320]  and I would like to spend more time on it.
[01:51:02.320 --> 01:51:05.480]  When I'm speaking, I'm not speaking to you directly, Ken.
[01:51:05.480 --> 01:51:06.480]  Right.
[01:51:06.480 --> 01:51:08.880]  I'm speaking to everybody else.
[01:51:08.880 --> 01:51:14.880]  It's my job to teach and when you bring up a subject that's good for teaching, I want
[01:51:14.880 --> 01:51:20.840]  to go to it but my producer reminds me that I've got people that's been sitting on hold
[01:51:20.840 --> 01:51:22.360]  that I need to get to.
[01:51:22.360 --> 01:51:23.360]  Right.
[01:51:23.360 --> 01:51:29.920]  So, if you can, you call back tomorrow night, I do a four-hour show and we can address this
[01:51:29.920 --> 01:51:31.920]  in more detail.
[01:51:31.920 --> 01:51:32.920]  Okay.
[01:51:32.920 --> 01:51:39.280]  I appreciate all the things you've spent on it and I appreciate talking to Mark.
[01:51:39.280 --> 01:51:40.280]  That was good too.
[01:51:40.280 --> 01:51:42.480]  So, I'll talk to you later.
[01:51:42.480 --> 01:51:43.480]  Okay.
[01:51:43.480 --> 01:51:44.480]  Thank you, Ken.
[01:51:44.480 --> 01:51:45.480]  Okay.
[01:51:45.480 --> 01:51:47.480]  Now, we're going to Barrett in Colorado.
[01:51:47.480 --> 01:51:48.480]  Hello, Barrett.
[01:51:48.480 --> 01:51:51.480]  What do you have for us today?
[01:51:51.480 --> 01:51:55.400]  Okay, this is a small claim case.
[01:51:55.400 --> 01:51:56.400]  All right.
[01:51:56.400 --> 01:51:57.400]  Let me start.
[01:51:57.400 --> 01:52:00.040]  Let me paint you a picture here.
[01:52:00.040 --> 01:52:02.040]  I live in Cortez, Colorado.
[01:52:02.040 --> 01:52:05.880]  It's got a population of about 5,000.
[01:52:05.880 --> 01:52:14.320]  There's one Walmart here in Cortez and on August 1st, I was in Cortez.
[01:52:14.320 --> 01:52:15.720]  What county is Cortez?
[01:52:15.720 --> 01:52:16.720]  Colorado.
[01:52:16.720 --> 01:52:19.080]  Cortez, Colorado.
[01:52:19.080 --> 01:52:20.080]  What county?
[01:52:20.080 --> 01:52:21.880]  What county is it about?
[01:52:21.880 --> 01:52:24.120]  It would be Montezuma County.
[01:52:24.120 --> 01:52:25.120]  Montezuma.
[01:52:25.120 --> 01:52:26.120]  Okay.
[01:52:26.120 --> 01:52:28.720]  I had someone that sounded familiar.
[01:52:28.720 --> 01:52:29.720]  Okay.
[01:52:29.720 --> 01:52:30.720]  Go ahead.
[01:52:30.720 --> 01:52:37.320]  But anyways, at about, like, say, 3.30 p.m. on the 1st of August, which is like three weeks
[01:52:37.320 --> 01:52:39.600]  ago, four weeks ago.
[01:52:39.600 --> 01:52:42.480]  And anyway, this kid backed into me.
[01:52:42.480 --> 01:52:46.520]  I was waiting to pull into a spot and this kid just backed right into me.
[01:52:46.520 --> 01:52:52.120]  And I was, anyway, he only did like maybe $800, $700 worth of damage to the front end
[01:52:52.120 --> 01:52:53.120]  of my car.
[01:52:53.120 --> 01:52:55.600]  I drive a really nice Honda Accord.
[01:52:55.600 --> 01:52:56.600]  It's only in 95.
[01:52:56.600 --> 01:52:59.040]  It's got really low miles on it.
[01:52:59.040 --> 01:53:00.040]  It's just nice.
[01:53:00.040 --> 01:53:02.040]  It doesn't look like a 95.
[01:53:02.040 --> 01:53:05.120]  It looks like a 2010 or something.
[01:53:05.120 --> 01:53:11.080]  But anyways, so this kid backed into my car.
[01:53:11.080 --> 01:53:15.600]  I didn't call the cops because I don't have a, they're going to want to see a driver's
[01:53:15.600 --> 01:53:19.440]  license and all this and I don't have a license, insurance, and I can't get one because I'm
[01:53:19.440 --> 01:53:25.240]  suspended or revoked because of an old DUI about eight years, nine years ago.
[01:53:25.240 --> 01:53:30.600]  Anyways, so, and I've been driving, traveling in my Honda Accord.
[01:53:30.600 --> 01:53:36.520]  I left a year ago, almost exactly, from Tucson, Arizona to here, and then when I called you
[01:53:36.520 --> 01:53:41.320]  and I says, all I have is a paper plate, paper tag, and he says, all of it, they don't want
[01:53:41.320 --> 01:53:43.040]  usually to cost someone to mess with that.
[01:53:43.040 --> 01:53:44.040]  So I did.
[01:53:44.040 --> 01:53:45.040]  I made it here.
[01:53:45.040 --> 01:53:49.600]  I've been traveling around here, this town, and a little ways out of town and stuff for
[01:53:49.600 --> 01:53:52.560]  a year now and I have not been pulled over.
[01:53:52.560 --> 01:53:58.360]  I have not been going like exactly the speed limit or a little bit less and I just have
[01:53:58.360 --> 01:54:01.560]  not been, I have not been pulled over.
[01:54:01.560 --> 01:54:04.320]  So anyways, this kid backed into me.
[01:54:04.320 --> 01:54:06.320]  I didn't call the cops.
[01:54:06.320 --> 01:54:07.960]  He said, oh, I'm so sorry.
[01:54:07.960 --> 01:54:08.960]  He's just a kid.
[01:54:08.960 --> 01:54:09.960]  He's 18 years old.
[01:54:09.960 --> 01:54:15.640]  He has an estate, a social security number, his full name, everything.
[01:54:15.640 --> 01:54:20.880]  He just handed me his license and I wrote down all the information, everything.
[01:54:20.880 --> 01:54:27.080]  But anyways, and so I thought, well, you know, and I told the kid, I says, you know, I'm
[01:54:27.080 --> 01:54:31.440]  not going to call the police because they'll just give you, you know, $100 ticket for failure
[01:54:31.440 --> 01:54:36.920]  to yield because everybody could see that he backed right into me.
[01:54:36.920 --> 01:54:44.480]  So if I go, because his kid's going to make me, because his grandmother told him, oh,
[01:54:44.480 --> 01:54:47.920]  go ahead and stick this guy because he doesn't have a license.
[01:54:47.920 --> 01:54:53.960]  And, you know, so if I go to small claims here in Cortez, are they going to say, well,
[01:54:53.960 --> 01:54:57.600]  you didn't have a driver's license?
[01:54:57.600 --> 01:54:58.600]  Objection relevance.
[01:54:58.600 --> 01:54:59.600]  Okay.
[01:54:59.600 --> 01:55:06.280]  So I'll say that and I'll say, well, I was traveling or I could say, well, how do you
[01:55:06.280 --> 01:55:07.280]  know?
[01:55:07.280 --> 01:55:09.680]  Objection and relevance.
[01:55:09.680 --> 01:55:12.400]  What difference does it make?
[01:55:12.400 --> 01:55:20.400]  What I have or what I do not have has no relevance to the claim against the 18-year-old.
[01:55:20.400 --> 01:55:21.400]  Okay.
[01:55:21.400 --> 01:55:32.120]  You don't have to have a driver's license, you don't have private property, you don't
[01:55:32.120 --> 01:55:33.120]  need one.
[01:55:33.120 --> 01:55:35.240]  So that's my objection, relevance.
[01:55:35.240 --> 01:55:36.240]  That's important.
[01:55:36.240 --> 01:55:37.240]  Okay.
[01:55:37.240 --> 01:55:44.040]  And also, don't, this isn't the cop or somebody has to see me out there on the public road
[01:55:44.040 --> 01:55:45.040]  and say...
[01:55:45.040 --> 01:55:46.040]  Okay.
[01:55:46.040 --> 01:55:47.040]  Wait a minute.
[01:55:47.040 --> 01:55:48.040]  Hold on.
[01:55:48.040 --> 01:55:52.120]  This has nothing to do with criminal, with any criminal complaint.
[01:55:52.120 --> 01:55:56.680]  The fact that you didn't have a driver's license or insurance or anything else is
[01:55:56.680 --> 01:55:57.680]  irrelevant.
[01:55:57.680 --> 01:56:04.200]  So if this judge starts saying, hey, I want to, you know, did you have a, let's see your
[01:56:04.200 --> 01:56:08.000]  driver's license or do you have a driver's license or...
[01:56:08.000 --> 01:56:09.000]  Objection.
[01:56:09.000 --> 01:56:10.000]  Objection.
[01:56:10.000 --> 01:56:11.000]  Relevance.
[01:56:11.000 --> 01:56:12.000]  Okay.
[01:56:12.000 --> 01:56:16.840]  And what if they say, okay, what if they say, you're not cooperating, so we're just going
[01:56:16.840 --> 01:56:19.400]  to vote for the guy that hit your car.
[01:56:19.400 --> 01:56:25.360]  Then you file criminal charges against the judge for failure to properly apply the law
[01:56:25.360 --> 01:56:26.360]  to the facts.
[01:56:26.360 --> 01:56:32.880]  It's not a process, a big complicated process.
[01:56:32.880 --> 01:56:34.880]  Everything is complicated.
[01:56:34.880 --> 01:56:35.880]  I know.
[01:56:35.880 --> 01:56:38.440]  They, they make, they design a law so that we can...
[01:56:38.440 --> 01:56:39.440]  Okay.
[01:56:39.440 --> 01:56:40.440]  That's it.
[01:56:40.440 --> 01:56:41.440]  Okay.
[01:56:41.440 --> 01:56:42.440]  No, they don't.
[01:56:42.440 --> 01:56:43.440]  Design.
[01:56:43.440 --> 01:56:44.440]  That is not true.
[01:56:44.440 --> 01:56:51.920]  We absolutely can access this, but it's not simple.
[01:56:51.920 --> 01:56:57.560]  I have people who call into my show and they don't want to get a driver's license.
[01:56:57.560 --> 01:56:59.560]  They don't want to get insurance.
[01:56:59.560 --> 01:57:02.520]  They don't want to follow all of these laws.
[01:57:02.520 --> 01:57:09.520]  And then something happens and the legal community comes after them.
[01:57:09.520 --> 01:57:11.400]  And they come to me and say, what can I do?
[01:57:11.400 --> 01:57:12.400]  What can I do?
[01:57:12.400 --> 01:57:13.400]  What can I do?
[01:57:13.400 --> 01:57:19.520]  And I want to say, pick your battles very carefully.
[01:57:19.520 --> 01:57:29.120]  And in your case, since there is a DUI and your license was revoked, you probably didn't
[01:57:29.120 --> 01:57:31.200]  have any option here.
[01:57:31.200 --> 01:57:33.760]  Actually, there are legal options.
[01:57:33.760 --> 01:57:44.720]  There are ways to get a conditional license that lets you out of work and back and such.
[01:57:44.720 --> 01:57:53.720]  But as to an accident in a parking lot that's not on a public thoroughfare, if it's not
[01:57:53.720 --> 01:58:00.320]  on a public thoroughfare, whether or not you have a driver's license is simply not relevant.
[01:58:00.320 --> 01:58:07.200]  You do not let that become relevant, and I'm about out of time.
[01:58:07.200 --> 01:58:11.320]  So if you want, we can call back tomorrow night and we can examine this in more detail.
[01:58:11.320 --> 01:58:13.800]  What time do you start tomorrow night?
[01:58:13.800 --> 01:58:18.080]  At the same time, but we have a four-hour show tomorrow night, so we'll have plenty
[01:58:18.080 --> 01:58:19.080]  of time.
[01:58:19.080 --> 01:58:20.080]  Okay.
[01:58:20.080 --> 01:58:21.080]  All right.
[01:58:21.080 --> 01:58:22.080]  Okay.
[01:58:22.080 --> 01:58:23.080]  Got 30 seconds.
[01:58:23.080 --> 01:58:24.080]  So call back tomorrow night.
[01:58:24.080 --> 01:58:25.080]  It's Miranda Kelton.
[01:58:25.080 --> 01:58:26.080]  Deborah Stevens.
[01:58:26.080 --> 01:58:27.080]  Got you.
[01:58:27.080 --> 01:58:30.440]  So we'll be back tomorrow night at eight o'clock.
[01:58:30.440 --> 01:58:34.280]  We'll do a show from eight to midnight tomorrow, so we'll have a lot more time.
[01:58:34.280 --> 01:58:40.680]  I know I spend a lot of time with individuals, but it's important that this show allows me
[01:58:40.680 --> 01:58:43.440]  to examine issues in more detail.
[01:58:43.440 --> 01:58:46.640]  I know it's worth reading sometimes, and I apologize for that.
[01:58:46.640 --> 01:58:48.080]  And we'll be back tomorrow night.
[01:58:48.080 --> 01:58:49.080]  Thank you for listening.
[01:58:49.080 --> 01:58:50.080]  Good night.
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