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[00:48.400 --> 01:07.400]  Today in History, the year 1968, President Lyndon M. Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act of 1968, which prohibited private businesses from discriminating based on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin.
[01:07.400 --> 01:17.400]  It also prohibited unequal application of voter registration requirements, racial segregation in public schools, in employment, and public accommodations for places of business.
[01:17.400 --> 01:18.400]  Today in History.
[01:47.400 --> 01:52.400]  The missiles fired at Syria get ready, Russia, because they will be coming in nice and new and smart.
[01:52.400 --> 01:58.400]  Going on to warn Russia that you shouldn't be partners with a gas-killing animal who kills its people and enjoys it.
[01:58.400 --> 02:06.400]  Many in the West, including President Trump, have been quick to conclude that this chemical attack must have been conducted by Assad and his forces.
[02:06.400 --> 02:15.400]  Syria and Russia, on the other hand, have given approval since yesterday for the organization for the prohibition of chemical weapons to investigate the side of the chemical slaughter.
[02:15.400 --> 02:27.400]  Assad has been successful in maintaining rule and support during Syria's seven-year civil war, a civil war that is being fought by the government of Syria and anti-Assad Syrian rebels that are openly being funded by Western governments,
[02:27.400 --> 02:32.400]  with ISIS being one of the more notorious winner groups of the American-backed Syrian rebels.
[02:32.400 --> 02:44.400]  No surprise then why Russian Foreign Minister Spokeswoman Maria Zakoba posted on Facebook that smart missiles should be fired at terrorists and not at a legitimate government, which has been fighting terrorists.
[02:44.400 --> 02:51.400]  Or is this a trick to destroy all traces with a smart missile strike, and then there will be no evidence for international inspectors to look at?
[02:51.400 --> 03:03.400]  This was Kirk Rody with your lowdown for April 11, 2018.
[03:21.400 --> 03:39.400]  What's she gonna do? Bad boys, bad boys. What's she gonna do? What's she gonna do when they come for you?
[03:39.400 --> 03:54.400]  Okay. Okay. Howdy, howdy. Randy Kelton, read of our radio. If anybody's out there listening, I am. Oh, here we go. Let me bring Stefan on. I need some help.
[03:54.400 --> 03:57.400]  Stefan, talk to me.
[03:57.400 --> 03:59.400]  Yeah.
[03:59.400 --> 04:08.400]  Do you? Okay, I'm having to run all the boards myself so I couldn't do a mic check. How does my voice sound? Testing one, two, three.
[04:08.400 --> 04:11.400]  Sounds clear to me.
[04:11.400 --> 04:16.400]  Okay, you're a little high coming back. Do you hear any background noise?
[04:16.400 --> 04:18.400]  I don't.
[04:18.400 --> 04:25.400]  Okay, good. I've got a hiss in my headset. As long as it's not going out over the air, we're good.
[04:25.400 --> 04:40.400]  Okay, Randy Kelton, read of our radio on this Friday, the 13th day of April. Friday, the 13th. 13th day of April, 2018.
[04:40.400 --> 04:56.400]  I'm sorry to have someone up on the board, so we will go right to callers. If you have a question or a comment, we'll be taking calls all night. Call in number 512-646-1984. Okay.
[04:56.400 --> 05:01.400]  Stefan, what do you have for us today?
[05:01.400 --> 05:23.400]  Randy, I have a property tax issue that I'm trying to resolve with a tax collector, and I asked for factual evidence that I owed the tax using the debt validation process and that the state had titled to the land where without that evidence,
[05:23.400 --> 05:43.400]  I told them that I didn't owe the tax, and without providing any evidence, the tax collector told me that the prosecutor told her not to talk to me anymore, which I considered obstruction of justice trying to run interference.
[05:43.400 --> 05:50.400]  Okay, okay. How did the prosecutor have anything to do with anything?
[05:50.400 --> 06:08.400]  Well, the tax collector, who I was trying to resolve the issue with, said that she couldn't talk to me anymore because the prosecutor told her not to talk to me anymore.
[06:08.400 --> 06:21.400]  Okay, is there a criminal or a prosecution against you? Is there a suit against you or have you just been notified of a tax debt and you're objecting to the tax debt?
[06:21.400 --> 06:25.400]  Correct. I was notified to admit.
[06:25.400 --> 06:50.400]  Okay, so if you're not being prosecuted, that's why I was asking these questions, then the prosecutor is, she's talking to someone who happens to be a prosecutor, and the fact that she refers to the person as a prosecutor is irrelevant.
[06:50.400 --> 06:59.400]  This is counsel for the plaintiff or counsel for the tax collector. Let me give you a quick story.
[06:59.400 --> 07:12.400]  I once filed a criminal complaint and the local police wouldn't give it to the local magistrate, and I pressed the chief of police and he said the county attorney told him not to.
[07:12.400 --> 07:23.400]  So I told him, wait right here. Don't go anywhere. Somebody's going to want to talk to you. And I headed to the courthouse. When I got to the courthouse, county attorney was waiting for me in the hall.
[07:23.400 --> 07:38.400]  He knew why I was coming. He said, Mr. Kelton, do you think I am out of my professional mind? Do you really believe that I would waive my sovereign immunity by giving legal advice to the police?
[07:38.400 --> 07:45.400]  And I said, well, James, I didn't think so, but I'm just following the thunder here.
[07:45.400 --> 08:00.400]  Point being, when a prosecuting attorney gives legal advice to a public entity, the prosecuting attorney is counsel for the defense or counsel for the party.
[08:00.400 --> 08:07.400]  It has no immunity. Sue the prosecutor.
[08:07.400 --> 08:20.400]  Well, let me finish telling you the story. So I called the prosecutor and asked him for the evidence and he said that he didn't have to provide it with evidence.
[08:20.400 --> 08:31.400]  And I said, without the evidence, he would not only be obstructing justice, but committing fraud for the intent to extort money from me.
[08:31.400 --> 08:38.400]  And he said that his response was, well, then sue me or sue the state.
[08:38.400 --> 08:44.400]  Oh, good. Now you're acting on the advice of counsel.
[08:44.400 --> 08:54.400]  And then he said, I will no longer talk to you and take any calls. And the only way that I'll address you is through, you know, court papers.
[08:54.400 --> 08:59.400]  And he was going to charge me for any legal actions I take.
[08:59.400 --> 09:02.400]  Charge you.
[09:02.400 --> 09:04.400]  Wait a minute. Hold on.
[09:04.400 --> 09:09.400]  He's going to charge you for any legal action you could take.
[09:09.400 --> 09:12.400]  Explain that.
[09:12.400 --> 09:20.400]  Well, not, not meaning that he will.
[09:20.400 --> 09:27.400]  I'll have to pay for his legal expense in trying to defend himself is what he basically said.
[09:27.400 --> 09:33.400]  Good luck with that.
[09:33.400 --> 09:46.400]  With the attitude, I don't have to do anything you ask and you're going to have to pay the property tax and or else they'll take your land away from you.
[09:46.400 --> 09:55.400]  And so it's more, you know, standing up from a political position saying you can't touch me.
[09:55.400 --> 09:57.400]  And in the past you've talked.
[09:57.400 --> 10:02.400]  Okay. Okay. Let's test his theory.
[10:02.400 --> 10:18.400]  If he spoke to you in a way that would tend to give you reason not to pursue adjudication of your rights.
[10:18.400 --> 10:24.400]  That would come under obstruction or witness tampering.
[10:24.400 --> 10:30.400]  I mean, he and his capacity as a prosecutor attorney may threats against you.
[10:30.400 --> 10:36.400]  If you adjudicated your rights, you need to file criminally against him.
[10:36.400 --> 10:42.400]  Start criminally. Get everybody in the process to protect him.
[10:42.400 --> 10:51.400]  And when someone steps into shielding from prosecution, then you go after them and start stacking it up on him.
[10:51.400 --> 10:55.400]  The only way we're going to deal with this, take it back to him.
[10:55.400 --> 10:59.400]  In this case, in this case, he's giving legal advice.
[10:59.400 --> 11:06.400]  So he is suitable and apparently it sounds like he knows full well he's suitable.
[11:06.400 --> 11:10.400]  So show him.
[11:10.400 --> 11:15.400]  Well, you've mentioned in the past about, you know, using the tar baby approach.
[11:15.400 --> 11:22.400]  You, I was thinking of calling his supervisor and explaining that he, that he has obstructed.
[11:22.400 --> 11:27.400]  Okay. Okay. Hold on. Do not call and explain.
[11:27.400 --> 11:30.400]  Do everything in writing.
[11:30.400 --> 11:33.400]  Registered mail.
[11:33.400 --> 11:37.400]  Never let them hear your voice if you can avoid it.
[11:37.400 --> 11:40.400]  You send them paperwork.
[11:40.400 --> 11:42.400]  They send you paperwork.
[11:42.400 --> 11:51.400]  They want to talk to you on the phone, notifying them that this conversation is being recorded for quality assurance.
[11:51.400 --> 11:55.400]  Do not talk to them if you don't have it recorded.
[11:55.400 --> 11:57.400]  They are lawyers.
[11:57.400 --> 12:02.400]  They will live when the truth to do better.
[12:02.400 --> 12:09.400]  Okay. Maybe they won't, but it behooves you to conduct yourself as if they will.
[12:09.400 --> 12:11.400]  Always protect yourself.
[12:11.400 --> 12:15.400]  Never talk to them if you can do it in paper.
[12:15.400 --> 12:22.400]  If they want to talk to you, tell them send me a letter or send me an email.
[12:22.400 --> 12:28.400]  This has been going on since 2011 and it wasn't in my name.
[12:28.400 --> 12:35.400]  The property wasn't in my name until 2018.
[12:35.400 --> 12:42.400]  It was my parents' house and then when they died, it converted to me.
[12:42.400 --> 12:52.400]  Okay. Well, in that part, it comes to you, if there's a tax claim against it, you inherit the property, you inherit the claim.
[12:52.400 --> 12:54.400]  Right.
[12:54.400 --> 13:05.400]  So my point being is they would never respond to me with the debt validation process and...
[13:05.400 --> 13:09.400]  Okay. Hold on. Hold on. Debt validation doesn't apply.
[13:09.400 --> 13:15.400]  They are a governmental entity and the...
[13:15.400 --> 13:16.400]  Corporation.
[13:16.400 --> 13:25.400]  The prison ending act does not apply. None of the consumer protection laws apply.
[13:25.400 --> 13:28.400]  Even though there are federal corporations?
[13:28.400 --> 13:31.400]  Yeah. None of them apply.
[13:31.400 --> 13:39.400]  However, they are a public entity and they may only do what the law specifically authorizes them to do.
[13:39.400 --> 13:50.400]  And deny you open records. Everything in tax office is open records.
[13:50.400 --> 13:53.400]  Have you sent them a written request?
[13:53.400 --> 13:57.400]  Yes. I've done that. I sent it in writing.
[13:57.400 --> 13:59.400]  Okay. Hold on. Hold on. Don't go too far.
[13:59.400 --> 14:13.400]  Did they respond to the request in the time limit specified by this Idaho's Open Records Act?
[14:13.400 --> 14:18.400]  I don't know what the Open Records Act...
[14:18.400 --> 14:23.400]  You're missing how to go after these guys.
[14:23.400 --> 14:25.400]  Get the Open Records Act and read it.
[14:25.400 --> 14:34.400]  You're generally not that big. Most of it got big sections on what's not open for public inspection.
[14:34.400 --> 14:37.400]  And they've got all kinds of administrative stuff.
[14:37.400 --> 14:41.400]  The real meat of it's not very big.
[14:41.400 --> 14:49.400]  Finally, request in writing. You do not have to reference the Open Meetings Act.
[14:49.400 --> 14:53.400]  You don't have to reference any law for the law to be applicable.
[14:53.400 --> 14:58.400]  So you just send them a letter and tell them you want to see these documents.
[14:58.400 --> 15:02.400]  And, you know, I have this rule.
[15:02.400 --> 15:09.400]  Never ask a public official to do anything you actually want them to do.
[15:09.400 --> 15:18.400]  Because you never ask a public official to do anything that the law does not command him to do.
[15:18.400 --> 15:24.400]  So, you send the information request and you hope they don't respond to it.
[15:24.400 --> 15:32.400]  Because then you get to go to the prosecuting attorney and file a criminal complaint with the prosecuting attorney.
[15:32.400 --> 15:38.400]  And when the prosecuting attorney exercises prosecutorial discretion,
[15:38.400 --> 15:45.400]  then you file against the prosecuting attorney for shooting for prosecution with a local judge.
[15:45.400 --> 15:51.400]  And when the local judge refuses to act on your complaint, well, you file against the local judge.
[15:51.400 --> 16:01.400]  Best to do all of this in writing, in written mailings to the court so they never see you.
[16:01.400 --> 16:07.400]  If they can't see you, they got some unknown out there sharp shooting them.
[16:07.400 --> 16:14.400]  And that makes you much, much harder for them to deal with.
[16:14.400 --> 16:20.400]  If they can get you in front of them, they feel like they can trip you up and get you to do stuff
[16:20.400 --> 16:25.400]  and give them a reason to say that he was agitated.
[16:25.400 --> 16:30.400]  They say agitated and that trumps everything.
[16:30.400 --> 16:33.400]  So, I always ask them to take the chicken suit off.
[16:33.400 --> 16:35.400]  That way they can't accuse me of being agitated.
[16:35.400 --> 16:40.400]  Because I ask them to get agitated before I ask you to take the chicken suit off or after.
[16:40.400 --> 16:44.400]  We always think what will play well in front of a grand jury.
[16:44.400 --> 16:47.400]  We're about to go to break. We'll pick this up on the other side.
[16:47.400 --> 16:55.400]  Randy Kelton, root of our radio on this 13th day of March, April 2018.
[16:55.400 --> 17:21.400]  We'll be right back.
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[20:05.400 --> 20:08.400]  Okay, we are back.
[20:08.400 --> 20:15.400]  Randy Kelton, rule of our radio and we're talking to Stephen in Idaho.
[20:15.400 --> 20:21.400]  Okay, if you're going to take these guys on, you need to do it strategically.
[20:21.400 --> 20:27.400]  You need to read the law you're dealing with first.
[20:27.400 --> 20:32.400]  What kind of money are we talking about here in Texas?
[20:32.400 --> 20:37.400]  It's about $2,000 a year. It's not very much.
[20:37.400 --> 20:41.400]  Oh, okay, then that's not enough to lose your property over.
[20:41.400 --> 20:49.400]  Then what you can probably do depends on how much of a fight you want to have with them.
[20:49.400 --> 20:58.400]  You can certainly sue the prosecutor, just for yucks, who absolutely filed a bar grievance against him.
[20:58.400 --> 21:07.400]  And look at the tax collector, assessor collector, get the open records act immediate.
[21:07.400 --> 21:08.400]  Okay.
[21:08.400 --> 21:18.400]  And if they have violated the act, they deny due due process and they have committed a harm against you.
[21:18.400 --> 21:21.400]  That's recoverable.
[21:21.400 --> 21:22.400]  Right.
[21:22.400 --> 21:28.400]  You could probably recover a whole lot more than $2,000.
[21:28.400 --> 21:37.400]  Well, the issue is my parents paid property tax to pay it off their house about 20 years ago.
[21:37.400 --> 21:52.400]  And if they don't have evidence that you owe the property tax, then there's 20 years of property tax payments that are, you know...
[21:52.400 --> 22:00.400]  Okay, in every tax code that I've looked at, you only can go back four years.
[22:00.400 --> 22:12.400]  So even if you've paid too much, if you didn't raise the issue within four years, then the law bars you from raising it.
[22:12.400 --> 22:17.400]  Dave, this is not their first rodeo.
[22:17.400 --> 22:20.400]  They've been around the block a few times.
[22:20.400 --> 22:31.400]  So they have all their normal basis covered. The problem is, is their officials don't always understand all of the steps they're supposed to take.
[22:31.400 --> 22:37.400]  And they get themselves an attitude and decide not to take those steps.
[22:37.400 --> 22:43.400]  I take it in this case, the prosecutor you speak of is a county attorney.
[22:43.400 --> 22:44.400]  Correct.
[22:44.400 --> 22:46.400]  Oh, good.
[22:46.400 --> 22:53.400]  They're kind of chumps and the county attorney is always looking to become the district attorney.
[22:53.400 --> 22:59.400]  So first thing to do is bar grieve the county attorney.
[22:59.400 --> 23:11.400]  So that just to get his attention and then send the county attorney a tort letter and send the...
[23:11.400 --> 23:20.400]  Since the county attorney instructed the tax office not to speak to you and you filed...
[23:20.400 --> 23:26.400]  If you file open records requests and they don't produce it, you can't talk to them about it.
[23:26.400 --> 23:31.400]  So you file criminally against the...
[23:31.400 --> 23:40.400]  Whoever the head of the tax assessor collector's office is and the prosecuting attorney.
[23:40.400 --> 23:44.400]  You start walking these guys through the court.
[23:44.400 --> 23:49.400]  Since it's only tax, you know, your freedom is not at risk here.
[23:49.400 --> 23:51.400]  Can I pay the tax?
[23:51.400 --> 23:53.400]  Say that again?
[23:53.400 --> 23:59.400]  I've already paid the tax, so it shows that they exported the money from me.
[23:59.400 --> 24:07.400]  Oh, okay. So you've already paid the tax. They don't have any claim at all.
[24:07.400 --> 24:13.400]  Right, exactly. I wanted to be free and clear to hit them right below the bell.
[24:13.400 --> 24:24.400]  Okay, so you're free and clear now. Now you've requested information and they refuse to provide the information.
[24:24.400 --> 24:28.400]  Okay, Read Your Open Records Act.
[24:28.400 --> 24:34.400]  It's every act I've looked at, not one of them has been a civil statute.
[24:34.400 --> 24:41.400]  Everyone I've looked at is a criminal statute and prescribes a criminal penalty.
[24:41.400 --> 24:46.400]  And the penalty would go to the custodian of the record.
[24:46.400 --> 24:57.400]  And the custodian of the record, unless someone else has been specifically appointed, is the director of the office.
[24:57.400 --> 25:13.400]  So you file criminal charges against the director of the office. And what's going to happen is all these little public officials are going to jump in line and try to shield the director of the office from prosecution.
[25:13.400 --> 25:18.400]  It's what they do. They just can't help themselves.
[25:18.400 --> 25:25.400]  And then when they don't act in accordance with code, then you file against them.
[25:25.400 --> 25:30.400]  And just start working the routine on them. Do it all by mail. Don't ever let them see you.
[25:30.400 --> 25:38.400]  You become this invisible entity who's sharp shooting them from a distance.
[25:38.400 --> 25:46.400]  And if they ever call you and ask you to come into their office, absolutely not.
[25:46.400 --> 25:57.400]  If you want to talk to me, you do it in writing. And do not be shy about telling them that you believe they would lie when the truth would do better.
[25:57.400 --> 26:03.400]  So you do not trust them.
[26:03.400 --> 26:12.400]  Do it all in writing and always keep one thing foremost in mind.
[26:12.400 --> 26:24.400]  Never say or do anything until you consider, how will this play before a grand jury of my peers?
[26:24.400 --> 26:29.400]  You know, you hear me talk about asking a public official to take his chicken suit off.
[26:29.400 --> 26:38.400]  If you went out there and talked to them, they're going to try to do everything they can to get you agitated, to get you upset, frustrated and angry.
[26:38.400 --> 26:49.400]  You say one word that they feel like they can object to and they're going to accuse you of being agitated.
[26:49.400 --> 26:54.400]  And once they do that, the courts will essentially allow them to do anything.
[26:54.400 --> 26:58.400]  So it took me a long time to figure out how to handle that.
[26:58.400 --> 27:08.400]  The first thing I will, first time a public official doesn't do something I want him to, I call 911.
[27:08.400 --> 27:18.400]  And I get an officer down there and he's going to get intense because he's not going to want to arrest his buddy over here.
[27:18.400 --> 27:30.400]  And when he refuses to arrest the person that I want him to arrest, the first thing I do is tell him that I need him to take his chicken suit off.
[27:30.400 --> 27:33.400]  Well, that's not going to make him happy.
[27:33.400 --> 27:45.400]  However, his problem is, I have just eliminated his ability to accuse me of being agitated.
[27:45.400 --> 27:49.400]  Kid Magnuson, he's on our show every once in a while, called me once.
[27:49.400 --> 27:52.400]  He said, what were you doing in Mansfield yesterday?
[27:52.400 --> 27:54.400]  Minded my business, Ken.
[27:54.400 --> 28:06.400]  Well, my brother, who was the city attorney for the city of Mansfield, said that that officer you talked to told him that you were agitated.
[28:06.400 --> 28:11.400]  I said, Ken, ask Craig to ask that officer.
[28:11.400 --> 28:20.400]  If I got agitated before I told him to take his chicken suit off or after, Ken said, you said that to him?
[28:20.400 --> 28:25.400]  I said, I always say that to them.
[28:25.400 --> 28:26.400]  And that ended it.
[28:26.400 --> 28:31.400]  He said, yeah, I told Craig that you have a way of putting him over the edge.
[28:31.400 --> 28:36.400]  But once you tell him to take his chicken suit off, how is that going to play in front of a grand jury?
[28:36.400 --> 28:42.400]  Does that sound agitated?
[28:42.400 --> 28:46.400]  But better you never get into that position.
[28:46.400 --> 28:49.400]  Better you never talk to them.
[28:49.400 --> 28:53.400]  Do it all in writing.
[28:53.400 --> 29:02.400]  Do you have something in Idaho on the order of the Texas Rangers that we have in Texas?
[29:02.400 --> 29:15.400]  And what I mean by that is the Texas Rangers are part of the state police and Texas Rangers are not exactly law enforcement.
[29:15.400 --> 29:26.400]  What they do is they investigate major crimes and they investigate complaints against public officials.
[29:26.400 --> 29:37.400]  Do you have a state agency with a designated duty to investigate criminal accusations against public officials?
[29:37.400 --> 29:39.400]  I'll have to check into that.
[29:39.400 --> 29:41.400]  I'm not aware of it.
[29:41.400 --> 29:42.400]  They are great.
[29:42.400 --> 30:04.400]  We have them in Texas, but it used to be that before a ranger could take a complaint against a public official or investigate an accusation against a public official, he would have to get written permission from the director.
[30:04.400 --> 30:16.400]  That's right.
[30:16.400 --> 30:19.400]  Privacy is under attack.
[30:19.400 --> 30:35.400]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again. And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
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[33:11.400 --> 33:25.400]  Yeah, I've got the warrant and I'm going to solve them to the government then process you Eddie.
[33:25.400 --> 33:51.400]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton Rural Law Radio and we're talking to Stefan in Idaho and Stefan you're in a good position to really learn how the system works and the $2,000 likelihood of getting that back is very slim because it won't hardly turn loose of tax money.
[33:51.400 --> 34:03.400]  And they have a secondary reason. They don't care how much that part costs them because they can't have people suing to get out of their taxes so they will fight that tooth and nail.
[34:03.400 --> 34:21.400]  However, if you charge them with a separate criminal act that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with taxes, then that is not something they have a vested interest in.
[34:21.400 --> 34:40.400]  The county has a vested interest in collecting taxes. They don't have a vested interest in being able to violate the Open Records Act or a whole slew of other criminal complaints you can bring against them.
[34:40.400 --> 34:48.400]  And if you start taking them on, there are a whole slew of criminal complaints you can bring against them.
[34:48.400 --> 34:57.400]  They will give you more criminal complaints you can file against them than you have paper for.
[34:57.400 --> 35:02.400]  They just can't help themselves. Very suspect in my experience.
[35:02.400 --> 35:11.400]  And say if you go after them for a violation of the Open Records Act.
[35:11.400 --> 35:26.400]  It's technically minor and miniscule. Then it's going to cost them way more than your tax would have been to hire a lawyer to answer your first pleading.
[35:26.400 --> 35:32.400]  They're paying these lawyers between $200 and $600 an hour.
[35:32.400 --> 35:41.400]  So one hour will cost them, and it won't take much, even at the lowest amount, $200 an hour.
[35:41.400 --> 35:46.400]  It won't take long to rack up a lot of money.
[35:46.400 --> 35:57.400]  So if you want to bring them in line, you have to do it by getting in their pocketbook, getting in their county budget.
[35:57.400 --> 36:06.400]  And the best thing, there are ways of going after these individuals like the prosecuting attorney.
[36:06.400 --> 36:19.400]  When the prosecuting attorney gave legal advice to his tax assessor collector not to talk to you, then without regard to the amount of taxes you may or may not have owed,
[36:19.400 --> 36:26.400]  he denied you into process and he conspired with his client to deny you into process.
[36:26.400 --> 36:30.400]  Read 18 U.S. Code 242.
[36:30.400 --> 36:41.400]  And there are some really cool things you can do. But before I go into this too deep, what do you want to do, Stephen?
[36:41.400 --> 36:49.400]  Well, my objective was to get it off the tax roll completely.
[36:49.400 --> 36:59.400]  And because they didn't have any justification, see, maybe it's my understanding of how tax works,
[36:59.400 --> 37:06.400]  but I was under the impression that if you have clear title to the land, then they can't charge you tax,
[37:06.400 --> 37:11.400]  and the way they get you hooked into the tax to start with is through a mortgage.
[37:11.400 --> 37:15.400]  No, no, no, no, that's not it at all.
[37:15.400 --> 37:28.400]  Let me back this back up. When the government took over the land, you're in Idaho, what was the sage Indians out there?
[37:28.400 --> 37:29.400]  Correct.
[37:29.400 --> 37:38.400]  Whatever you, yeah, whatever they took the land over from the Indians, they issued land grants.
[37:38.400 --> 37:46.400]  And those land grants gave clear title. Well, they didn't issue it all in land grants.
[37:46.400 --> 37:51.400]  A lot of it they sold to people.
[37:51.400 --> 37:58.400]  And for the most part, people didn't have cash to pay for the property. So they said, I don't care, tell you what, okay.
[37:58.400 --> 38:06.400]  And I just caught myself. You said he started with mortgages and yes, it did start with mortgages, but not the kind you tend to think of.
[38:06.400 --> 38:15.400]  The mortgage was a mortgage with the government, with the state. The state sold it to you.
[38:15.400 --> 38:24.400]  And as a security, they took title to the land.
[38:24.400 --> 38:34.400]  They issued a title. Once the land was paid off, you could go to the land office and get an alloys title.
[38:34.400 --> 38:38.400]  And pull that title from the county records.
[38:38.400 --> 38:47.400]  It was only during the time that they had this title claim against your property that you had to pay taxes.
[38:47.400 --> 39:00.400]  So if someone purchased property from the state and never removed the title from the county recorders office, then you're bound to continue in contract to pay the taxes.
[39:00.400 --> 39:04.400]  So this goes toward a loyal title.
[39:04.400 --> 39:10.400]  Texas is the easiest one to do that with because Texas has its own land office.
[39:10.400 --> 39:17.400]  Texas was a sovereign nation before it came into the union and there are some things Texas maintained.
[39:17.400 --> 39:20.400]  And land office was one of them.
[39:20.400 --> 39:30.400]  So you can go to the land office and get a, that's not a loyal title, but you can get title to your property.
[39:30.400 --> 39:36.400]  And then, technically, it comes off the tax rules.
[39:36.400 --> 39:42.400]  But in the real world, they'll come after you anyway.
[39:42.400 --> 39:47.400]  So that's why I ask what do you want to do?
[39:47.400 --> 39:55.400]  They're going to fight you to pay taxes no matter what you do.
[39:55.400 --> 40:07.400]  So if you want to make some money from them, do you want them to come to the table and agree to write off your taxes to get you to drop this lawsuit against them?
[40:07.400 --> 40:10.400]  What do you want to accomplish at the end of the day?
[40:10.400 --> 40:12.400]  Do you want to learn how to fight the legal system?
[40:12.400 --> 40:14.400]  This would be a great way to do it.
[40:14.400 --> 40:20.400]  A lot better than when you got a DUI hanging over you and trying to throw you in jail for a couple of years.
[40:20.400 --> 40:24.400]  Here, they have no claim against you at all.
[40:24.400 --> 40:25.400]  Exactly.
[40:25.400 --> 40:32.400]  You need to figure out what you want to do and then I can give you some ideas how to go about it.
[40:32.400 --> 40:39.400]  Well, I think it's bigger than the property tax.
[40:39.400 --> 40:47.400]  I think as the government is moving, the direction the government is moving, we're moving into a police state.
[40:47.400 --> 40:58.400]  And if you don't declare your self-ownership and self-determination, they're going to claim that they own you.
[40:58.400 --> 40:59.400]  I agree.
[40:59.400 --> 41:02.400]  So how do you do that?
[41:02.400 --> 41:21.400]  So my objective was to force them to prove with evidence that I owe the tax and that I'm in their body politics.
[41:21.400 --> 41:33.400]  Okay, so what happens when you petition them to prove it up and they don't?
[41:33.400 --> 41:35.400]  They come after you anyway.
[41:35.400 --> 41:37.400]  Right, they don't have to.
[41:37.400 --> 41:54.400]  And this guy that I talked to, the prosecutor, he gave me court cases around the country that supposedly prove that you owe tax.
[41:54.400 --> 42:06.400]  And in all situations, it claimed that if you were in their body politic, they use the terminology if you're in their state.
[42:06.400 --> 42:08.400]  In this state.
[42:08.400 --> 42:12.400]  And a loyal title takes you out of this state.
[42:12.400 --> 42:18.400]  If you don't have an loyal title or in Texas, they call it a land patent.
[42:18.400 --> 42:23.400]  If you don't have that, then you are in this state.
[42:23.400 --> 42:28.400]  But if you do have that, you're not in this state.
[42:28.400 --> 42:35.400]  However, you don't have a right to police and fire protection.
[42:35.400 --> 42:40.400]  And you don't have a right to any government services.
[42:40.400 --> 42:42.400]  So it has this downside.
[42:42.400 --> 42:44.400]  Right.
[42:44.400 --> 42:54.400]  But if the downside is, doesn't outweigh the upside, then you can petition for an analogous title.
[42:54.400 --> 43:03.400]  Go in and remove your property off the tax rolls and remove it out of the county court office.
[43:03.400 --> 43:05.400]  It's out here in Texas.
[43:05.400 --> 43:08.400]  But if you do that, then you can't sell the property.
[43:08.400 --> 43:10.400]  And that has nothing to do with the law.
[43:10.400 --> 43:13.400]  That has to do with finance.
[43:13.400 --> 43:23.400]  No one will purchase a property unless they're unusual and understand a land patent or a loyal title.
[43:23.400 --> 43:32.400]  If it's not registered as a county court office, then there are no ways of telling if there are claims against your property.
[43:32.400 --> 43:37.400]  So they wouldn't dare buy the property because there could be hidden claims against it.
[43:37.400 --> 43:39.400]  And that doesn't have anything to do with law.
[43:39.400 --> 43:41.400]  It has to do with finance.
[43:41.400 --> 43:44.400]  So once you remove the title, you can't sell it in a conventional manner.
[43:44.400 --> 43:48.400]  You would have to sell it to someone who will buy it in cash.
[43:48.400 --> 43:49.400]  And buy it as a loyal title.
[43:49.400 --> 43:51.400]  Hang on, Randy Kelton.
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[46:21.400 --> 46:26.400]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton with our radio.
[46:26.400 --> 46:36.400]  And we're talking to Stefan in Idaho, and we only have one caller on the board, so if you have a question or comment, give us a call.
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[46:39.400 --> 46:46.400]  Okay, Stefan, this really goes to what you want to accomplish.
[46:46.400 --> 46:59.400]  If you want to get out of paying the money, one way you might be able to do it is to engage them in a lawsuit that's going to cost them a lot of money,
[46:59.400 --> 47:10.400]  and going to potentially damage a public official's career, and then ask the court to order mediation.
[47:10.400 --> 47:17.400]  They're not going to come to the table and try to make a deal with you if you're a pro se.
[47:17.400 --> 47:28.400]  However, if you ask the court to order them to, then they can come to the table and make a deal and not lose face.
[47:28.400 --> 47:39.400]  So, it all depends on what you want to do if you want to fix the system and make sure they don't do this to your grandkids.
[47:39.400 --> 47:48.400]  Then that's a whole different perspective, and that's the perspective I come at this from.
[47:48.400 --> 47:55.400]  I like fights like yours because this is a fight that you picked.
[47:55.400 --> 48:00.400]  The best fight to have with them is a fight that you picked.
[48:00.400 --> 48:05.400]  When they start a fight with you, then you fall under their authority.
[48:05.400 --> 48:11.400]  When you pick a fight with them, they fall under your authority.
[48:11.400 --> 48:15.400]  Then you make it so all they can do is lose.
[48:15.400 --> 48:19.400]  They got to decide how much they're willing to lose.
[48:19.400 --> 48:29.400]  So, that's why I keep asking, at the end of the day, what do you want to accomplish?
[48:29.400 --> 48:35.400]  Well, before I answer that, could I ask you a question?
[48:35.400 --> 48:36.400]  Sure.
[48:36.400 --> 48:45.400]  You made the state that the title was passed on from the state to the landowner, and that's not, that's in this situation.
[48:45.400 --> 48:47.400]  It's not true.
[48:47.400 --> 48:58.400]  The president, it was a land patent that was transferred from the United States government and President Grover Cleveland signed it.
[48:58.400 --> 49:05.400]  And so, the state had never had no connection to it.
[49:05.400 --> 49:12.400]  Okay, who did the state issue the patent to?
[49:12.400 --> 49:14.400]  It wasn't a state patent.
[49:14.400 --> 49:16.400]  It was a federal patent.
[49:16.400 --> 49:18.400]  It doesn't matter.
[49:18.400 --> 49:23.400]  Who was it issued to?
[49:23.400 --> 49:26.400]  Was it issued to your parents?
[49:26.400 --> 49:34.400]  No, it was issued to the person who bought the land, and then they subdivided it.
[49:34.400 --> 49:37.400]  Okay, here's how they get you.
[49:37.400 --> 49:48.400]  If at any time in the process subsequent to the issuance of the land patent, if the property is mortgaged,
[49:48.400 --> 49:57.400]  a mortgage company will not accept the property unless there is title applied to the property.
[49:57.400 --> 50:06.400]  In order to get the property listed in the county recorder's records, there must be a title to it.
[50:06.400 --> 50:12.400]  Land patent properties are not listed in the county recorder's office.
[50:12.400 --> 50:19.400]  So, to get it listed in the county recorder's office, you have to petition the state for title.
[50:19.400 --> 50:24.400]  Once they get title, that includes an agreement to pay the taxes.
[50:24.400 --> 50:30.400]  No mortgage company will issue a mortgage without a title.
[50:30.400 --> 50:31.400]  That's the problem.
[50:31.400 --> 50:35.400]  It's about money, it's not about law.
[50:35.400 --> 50:46.400]  So, in the land patent that was, that covered my land, it said that it was an only old title,
[50:46.400 --> 50:53.400]  and that position transferred down to everybody who purchased the land.
[50:53.400 --> 51:06.400]  Yeah, it did, unless one of those people elected to attempt to secure a mortgage in which case they had to petition for title in order to get the mortgage,
[51:06.400 --> 51:11.400]  and that's how the title gets applied to the property.
[51:11.400 --> 51:17.400]  Once it's applied, then you have to take action to move it back to another lawyer title.
[51:17.400 --> 51:20.400]  Have you done that on your parent's property?
[51:20.400 --> 51:23.400]  No, I haven't.
[51:23.400 --> 51:31.400]  As long as you have a title to the property, the state has a claim against it.
[51:31.400 --> 51:39.400]  If you can remove the title, go back to the lawyer title, and there's always a process for doing that,
[51:39.400 --> 51:48.400]  then the state no longer has a claim against the property.
[51:48.400 --> 51:57.400]  Yeah, there's a lot of processes out there that talk about, you know, bringing the land patent forward to put it into your name,
[51:57.400 --> 52:00.400]  and that's how I assume that's what you're talking about.
[52:00.400 --> 52:05.400]  Yeah, in Texas, you can go to the land office, and those people are really great down there.
[52:05.400 --> 52:07.400]  They'll tell you exactly how to do it.
[52:07.400 --> 52:10.400]  They'll even help you prepare the documentation.
[52:10.400 --> 52:11.400]  I don't know what they have.
[52:11.400 --> 52:21.400]  Every other state is subject to the federal government land office, the Bureau of Land Management,
[52:21.400 --> 52:27.400]  and they're a whole lot more difficult to deal with, but Texas is not a very difficult procedure.
[52:27.400 --> 52:31.400]  But Texas is the only one that has its own land office.
[52:31.400 --> 52:34.400]  So that would get you out of that.
[52:34.400 --> 52:40.400]  That's the only issue in land patents the way to go.
[52:40.400 --> 52:43.400]  Well, it is to get it off the tax work.
[52:43.400 --> 52:44.400]  Yeah.
[52:44.400 --> 52:52.400]  And then if a public official tries to enforce anyway, now you get to go after them.
[52:52.400 --> 53:01.400]  And, you know, if you do this, once you develop a suit against them, it becomes cookie cutter.
[53:01.400 --> 53:15.400]  And if you use some of the techniques we present and demonstrate here on this show, then you got lots of ways to beat them up.
[53:15.400 --> 53:19.400]  You can bar grieve the attorney every time he files a document.
[53:19.400 --> 53:33.400]  Every time the judge rules in a way that you perceive does not properly apply the law to the facts, you can file a criminal against the judge.
[53:33.400 --> 53:38.400]  Now, right now nobody does that and I don't know why.
[53:38.400 --> 53:45.400]  You know, if I'm driving down the street and the officer says that I weaved in at one point for a microsecond,
[53:45.400 --> 53:50.400]  my tire touched the yellow line, boom, they lend only like a ton of bricks.
[53:50.400 --> 53:53.400]  And I got to pay all this money or I go to jail.
[53:53.400 --> 53:56.400]  Well, it's pretty technical, Bubba.
[53:56.400 --> 54:00.400]  Well, it's time we turn the tables on them.
[54:00.400 --> 54:11.400]  The law says that it is a due process violation for a judge to fail to properly apply the law to the facts.
[54:11.400 --> 54:17.400]  Well, if a judge acting in the capacity of a public official denies meaningful,
[54:17.400 --> 54:25.400]  enforces, exerts or purports to exert an authority he does not express we have or fails to perform a duty he's required to perform,
[54:25.400 --> 54:29.400]  i.e., properly apply the law to the facts.
[54:29.400 --> 54:33.400]  And in the process denies meaningful and free access to or enjoying the right.
[54:33.400 --> 54:37.400]  That's a classic misdemeanor in most every state.
[54:37.400 --> 54:45.400]  And in the fed goes to due process rings equally in the state and the fed.
[54:45.400 --> 54:56.400]  So you file criminal charges against him with the local special agent in charge of the FBI.
[54:56.400 --> 55:05.400]  And that'll get interesting because when this special agent in charge of the FBI in your local area refuses to act on your complaint,
[55:05.400 --> 55:10.400]  then you file a complaint against him with the local U.S. attorney.
[55:10.400 --> 55:16.400]  And the U.S. attorney will get that complaint and he won't want to act on it.
[55:16.400 --> 55:32.400]  So he'll refuse then you file a complaint with the attorney general of the United States asking for a copy of the notice that the U.S. attorney gave to the attorney general
[55:32.400 --> 55:38.400]  based on your accusation against the special agent in charge of the FBI.
[55:38.400 --> 55:42.400]  And the attorney general is going to tell you they don't have one.
[55:42.400 --> 55:47.400]  Then you file criminal charges against the U.S. attorney.
[55:47.400 --> 55:58.400]  And you send that to the federal grand jury and the U.S. attorney will intercept it.
[55:58.400 --> 56:11.400]  And then you file against the U.S. attorney for interference with the public mail, obstruction of justice by secreting a complaint against himself from the grand jury.
[56:11.400 --> 56:15.400]  And here's the U.S. attorney's problem.
[56:15.400 --> 56:25.400]  When a new president takes office, every U.S. attorney must turn in their resignation.
[56:25.400 --> 56:30.400]  The new president decides whether to accept it or not.
[56:30.400 --> 56:38.400]  So the U.S. attorney in Idaho has resignation before the president of the United States.
[56:38.400 --> 56:44.400]  And the president of the United States, especially this one, doesn't have many political allies.
[56:44.400 --> 56:48.400]  So a good way to get political allies is by public appointments.
[56:48.400 --> 56:53.400]  And one of the best public appointments is U.S. attorney.
[56:53.400 --> 57:10.400]  So now you put the local U.S. attorney in a position to where he is highlighted in front of the U.S. attorney general as a U.S. attorney who is getting criminal charges filed against him.
[57:10.400 --> 57:16.400]  And we've got U.S. attorneys all over the country and most of them don't have criminal charges filed against them.
[57:16.400 --> 57:25.400]  So this is a good reason for the president to come in and sort that guy out and put in one of his political appointees.
[57:25.400 --> 57:31.400]  Now for the most part that don't happen, but these lawyers are terrified that will happen.
[57:31.400 --> 57:42.400]  That when you go after a local po-dump jurisdiction in the Fed and then start hammering the Fed, the Fed's going to come down and hammer the jurisdiction.
[57:42.400 --> 57:46.400]  And you create a situation where they don't want to get in court with you again.
[57:46.400 --> 57:49.400]  Does that make sense, Stefan?
[57:49.400 --> 58:00.400]  It does, but my fear is that I would charge him for something and they would come back on me saying it's a...
[58:00.400 --> 58:05.400]  That's what they want you to think.
[58:05.400 --> 58:20.400]  However, when you file criminal charges against anyone, so long as you do not misrepresent a fact, you have the same protection that a judge has.
[58:20.400 --> 58:24.400]  You become a protected class.
[58:24.400 --> 58:29.400]  Now I do this to get them to threaten me.
[58:29.400 --> 58:42.400]  I love it when they do that. If I ask a bailiff to take a criminal complaint against a judge, I did that in Garland, Texas.
[58:42.400 --> 58:46.400]  I told the bailiff to go in there and arrest the judge.
[58:46.400 --> 58:50.400]  What can he arrest the judge? Of course you can't. Just go in there and drag him.
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[01:00:10.400 --> 01:00:22.400]  Today in history, news updates and the inside scoop into the tides of the alternative.
[01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:34.400]  Markets for the 11th of April 2018 close with gold $1,353.22 in ounce, silver $16.68 in ounce, Texas crude $65.51 of barrel,
[01:00:34.400 --> 01:00:55.400]  Bitcoins at $6,902.19, Ethereum at $420.80, Bitcoin Cash at $652.90, and finally Litecoins at $114.34, a crypto coin.
[01:00:55.400 --> 01:01:08.400]  Today in history, the year 1968, President Lyndon M. Johnson signs the Civil Rights Act of 1968, which prohibited private businesses from discriminating based on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin.
[01:01:08.400 --> 01:01:18.400]  It also prohibited unequal application of voter registration requirements, racial segregation in public schools, and employment, and public accommodations for places of business.
[01:01:18.400 --> 01:01:31.400]  In recent news, tensions in Syria seem to reach new levels after a chemical attack on civilians in the city of Duma, which left 40 dead and many injured,
[01:01:31.400 --> 01:01:38.400]  an attack which is being blamed on the democratically elected president of Syria, Bashar al-Assad, by the United States and on Israel by Russia,
[01:01:38.400 --> 01:01:42.400]  either accusatory narrative without any verified evidence as of yet.
[01:01:42.400 --> 01:01:48.400]  President Trump tweeted today Wednesday that if, quote, Russia vows to shoot down any and all missiles fired at Syria,
[01:01:48.400 --> 01:01:52.400]  get ready, Russia, because they will be coming in nice and new and smart.
[01:01:52.400 --> 01:01:58.400]  Going on to warn Russia that you shouldn't be partners with a gas-killing animal who kills his people and enjoys it.
[01:01:58.400 --> 01:02:06.400]  Many in the West, including President Trump, have been quick to conclude that this chemical attack must have been conducted by Assad and his forces.
[01:02:06.400 --> 01:02:15.400]  Syria and Russia, on the other hand, have given approval since yesterday for the organization for the prohibition of chemical weapons to investigate the side of the chemical slaughter.
[01:02:15.400 --> 01:02:24.400]  Assad has been successful in maintaining rule and support during Syria's seven-year civil war, a civil war that is being fought by the government of Syria and anti-Assad Syrian rebels
[01:02:24.400 --> 01:02:32.400]  that are openly being funded by Western governments, with ISIS being one of the more notorious splinter groups of the American-backed Syrian rebels.
[01:02:32.400 --> 01:02:40.400]  Now, surprise then why Russian Foreign Minister Spokeswoman Maria Zakhova posted on Facebook that smart missiles should be fired at terrorists
[01:02:40.400 --> 01:02:44.400]  and not at a legitimate government, which has been fighting terrorists.
[01:02:44.400 --> 01:02:51.400]  Or is this a trick to destroy all traces with a smart missile strike, and then there will be no evidence for international inspectors to look at?
[01:02:51.400 --> 01:03:20.400]  This was Rick Rody with your lowdown for April 11, 2018.
[01:03:20.400 --> 01:03:30.400]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton rules our radio, and we're talking to Stephen in Idaho. I kind of read off the cliff back there.
[01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:38.400]  But I guess at the end of the day, what is it that you want to accomplish? I'm still not sure.
[01:03:38.400 --> 01:03:54.400]  Well, it was to get the property off the tax roll and prove that you don't own the property. In my mind, if you own, it comes down to self-ownership.
[01:03:54.400 --> 01:03:59.400]  If you own the property, they can't charge you rent for...
[01:03:59.400 --> 01:04:15.400]  Okay, that's a conceptual argument. But if you have a title on the property, then you are in a contractual agreement with the state to pay this tax.
[01:04:15.400 --> 01:04:25.400]  You have to cancel that contract by bringing forward the alloidal title or the land patent.
[01:04:25.400 --> 01:04:30.400]  Do that, then you can get off the tax rolls.
[01:04:30.400 --> 01:04:45.400]  Okay. And I guess I'm going to have to read the Open Record Act to see how much they violated it so I could...
[01:04:45.400 --> 01:04:56.400]  That really gets to be fun. When you can coax them into violating the Open Records Act, and I have a number of methods for that,
[01:04:56.400 --> 01:05:07.400]  I tend to try to request information that doesn't give them a clue as to what I'm looking for.
[01:05:07.400 --> 01:05:17.400]  Because what I want them to do is ask me why I want to see this information. And that gets a 911 called immediately.
[01:05:17.400 --> 01:05:22.400]  Because they're forbidden to ask me why I want to see the information.
[01:05:22.400 --> 01:05:27.400]  It doesn't matter if I care about telling them or not, they're forbidden to ask.
[01:05:27.400 --> 01:05:37.400]  So if I can coax them into asking 911, and then they want to say, oh, it really doesn't matter. Sorry.
[01:05:37.400 --> 01:05:44.400]  That bill has already been wrong. Once they ask the crimes that have been committed,
[01:05:44.400 --> 01:05:53.400]  they want to have it so that if you don't stop at a stop sign and you stop 10 feet down the street, they can cite you.
[01:05:53.400 --> 01:06:01.400]  But if they don't do what they're supposed to do and you call them on it, then they can say, we won't do that anymore and we don't get punished.
[01:06:01.400 --> 01:06:08.400]  Well, I don't play it that way. I coax them into violating a rule so that I can sting them with it.
[01:06:08.400 --> 01:06:12.400]  It doesn't take them long to figure out I'm doing that to them.
[01:06:12.400 --> 01:06:17.400]  And then they go to a lot of trouble not to have any issues with me.
[01:06:17.400 --> 01:06:26.400]  So figure out what you want to do and look into bringing forth your land patent in Idaho and call us next weekend.
[01:06:26.400 --> 01:06:30.400]  Let us know how to do that.
[01:06:30.400 --> 01:06:40.400]  Yeah, I need to research that. I was thinking that because I had the land patent that superseded anything that the state could do to me.
[01:06:40.400 --> 01:06:49.400]  And by agreement, by getting a mortgage is what was the nexus to the property tax.
[01:06:49.400 --> 01:07:01.400]  And once you didn't have old money or the mortgage anymore, then the property tax subsided.
[01:07:01.400 --> 01:07:08.400]  None of this terminates automatically. You have to terminate it.
[01:07:08.400 --> 01:07:24.400]  The land title is intended to rest in the county recorder's office so that at any time you wish to sell your property, anyone who's interested in purchasing the property
[01:07:24.400 --> 01:07:32.400]  can go to the county recorder's office, check the records and find out if there's a claim against your property.
[01:07:32.400 --> 01:07:36.400]  So that's an advantage to having a title.
[01:07:36.400 --> 01:07:41.400]  However, the disadvantage is it costs you a lot of money.
[01:07:41.400 --> 01:07:47.400]  So if you have a land patent, then someone can purchase your property on the patent.
[01:07:47.400 --> 01:08:01.400]  But the problem with that is there can be a hidden claim against the property because there is no repository where a claimant is required to file his claim
[01:08:01.400 --> 01:08:08.400]  so that a third party can find the claim.
[01:08:08.400 --> 01:08:17.400]  And so it has its downside. If you don't ever intend to sell the property, go ahead and bring the land patent for it.
[01:08:17.400 --> 01:08:23.400]  But if you ever expect to sell the property, probably a bad idea.
[01:08:23.400 --> 01:08:30.400]  Well, couldn't whoever bought the property put it into, you know, get title from the state?
[01:08:30.400 --> 01:08:40.400]  They could, but you would have to prove to the state at the time that they're or certified to the state that there are no outstanding claims against the property.
[01:08:40.400 --> 01:08:56.400]  And then you would become liable if a claim surfaced that was in existence prior to the land title or to the title.
[01:08:56.400 --> 01:09:00.400]  If you don't have any claims against it, then that's the piece of cake.
[01:09:00.400 --> 01:09:12.400]  Then if you want to sell it, you just go ahead and apply for a title and then certify that there are no claims against it and you get your title back and sell the property.
[01:09:12.400 --> 01:09:18.400]  And the state would just jump up and down and clap their hands if you put your property back on their tax rolls.
[01:09:18.400 --> 01:09:20.400]  Exactly.
[01:09:20.400 --> 01:09:24.400]  They make it hard to get it off, but they make it easy to get it back on.
[01:09:24.400 --> 01:09:26.400]  Right.
[01:09:26.400 --> 01:09:28.400]  Well, I appreciate your help.
[01:09:28.400 --> 01:09:34.400]  I'm going to have to read up on the open record to act and see what damage I can do to them.
[01:09:34.400 --> 01:09:35.400]  Okay.
[01:09:35.400 --> 01:09:39.400]  You will find that a fun read.
[01:09:39.400 --> 01:09:40.400]  Okay.
[01:09:40.400 --> 01:09:44.400]  You will look at this stuff and say, oh, goody, goody, goody, I get to do this to them.
[01:09:44.400 --> 01:09:45.400]  I get to do that to them.
[01:09:45.400 --> 01:09:47.400]  Oh, it's great fun.
[01:09:47.400 --> 01:09:55.400]  Well, I was thinking of, you know, you said, don't talk to his supervisor.
[01:09:55.400 --> 01:10:00.400]  No, no, send his supervisor a letter.
[01:10:00.400 --> 01:10:02.400]  Don't talk to him in person.
[01:10:02.400 --> 01:10:03.400]  Send him a letter.
[01:10:03.400 --> 01:10:04.400]  Okay.
[01:10:04.400 --> 01:10:05.400]  I agree.
[01:10:05.400 --> 01:10:12.400]  But I mean, but my point being is, is notify his supervisor that he's obstructed justice.
[01:10:12.400 --> 01:10:20.400]  You know, in doing that, when you send notification, you should send him a dime.
[01:10:20.400 --> 01:10:22.400]  Send him a what?
[01:10:22.400 --> 01:10:23.400]  A dime.
[01:10:23.400 --> 01:10:24.400]  Oh, okay.
[01:10:24.400 --> 01:10:30.400]  I went to my prosecuting attorney once and I went back in his office and I reached in
[01:10:30.400 --> 01:10:34.400]  my pocket and I pulled out a dime and I put it on his desk.
[01:10:34.400 --> 01:10:40.400]  And he looked at it and he said, well, Mr. Kelton, and what is that for?
[01:10:40.400 --> 01:10:47.400]  I said, well, Greg, since I was going to put you on one, I felt the least I could do is
[01:10:47.400 --> 01:10:49.400]  give it to you.
[01:10:49.400 --> 01:10:57.400]  Oh, Mr. Kelton, you always give me a pain in the behind.
[01:10:57.400 --> 01:11:04.400]  So what he doesn't realize, most likely doesn't realize when you send him the complaint against
[01:11:04.400 --> 01:11:13.400]  this inferior that you're putting him on a legal dime, he's setting him up.
[01:11:13.400 --> 01:11:19.400]  And that's what you want to get them to think is that you're setting him up.
[01:11:19.400 --> 01:11:23.400]  And it's better to do it in paper because now they can't reason with you.
[01:11:23.400 --> 01:11:28.400]  In Arlington, Texas, a clerk gave an information request and he said, well, I'll send this
[01:11:28.400 --> 01:11:29.400]  to the attorney.
[01:11:29.400 --> 01:11:33.400]  I said, man, you send that anywhere you want it.
[01:11:33.400 --> 01:11:41.400]  But I'm going to be back here in 15 days and your judge will provide me with this information.
[01:11:41.400 --> 01:11:47.400]  If he doesn't, I will not be reasonable and I will not be understanding.
[01:11:47.400 --> 01:11:50.400]  I will put him in front of a grand jury.
[01:11:50.400 --> 01:11:54.400]  Do I make myself clear?
[01:11:54.400 --> 01:11:58.400]  Oh, that was so much fun.
[01:11:58.400 --> 01:12:03.400]  And I meant it, I will not be reasonable and I will not be understanding.
[01:12:03.400 --> 01:12:06.400]  I will be detailed and pedantic.
[01:12:06.400 --> 01:12:13.400]  I do not care why you wheels touch the yellow line.
[01:12:13.400 --> 01:12:16.400]  I don't care.
[01:12:16.400 --> 01:12:18.400]  Tell it to the judge.
[01:12:18.400 --> 01:12:22.400]  I don't care why you didn't get me my documentation until the 16th day.
[01:12:22.400 --> 01:12:25.400]  Just don't care.
[01:12:25.400 --> 01:12:30.400]  To the judge, I'm sure he'll be sympathetic or to a grand jury, they'll be sympathetic.
[01:12:30.400 --> 01:12:38.400]  And once they realize you're setting them up, then you will have them following law.
[01:12:38.400 --> 01:12:43.400]  And I don't think it's appropriate to ask anything else of them.
[01:12:43.400 --> 01:12:45.400]  There's your public officials.
[01:12:45.400 --> 01:12:47.400]  Follow law.
[01:12:47.400 --> 01:12:54.400]  You follow the law as it's written and I will craft my remedy within that law.
[01:12:54.400 --> 01:12:57.400]  Okay, I am getting a full board of callers.
[01:12:57.400 --> 01:13:06.400]  I need to move along, but read up on that and call us back next week and give us an idea of what you think you could throw at him.
[01:13:06.400 --> 01:13:07.400]  I sure will.
[01:13:07.400 --> 01:13:10.400]  I really appreciate your help, Randy.
[01:13:10.400 --> 01:13:12.400]  Okay, thank you, Stefan.
[01:13:12.400 --> 01:13:15.400]  Now we're going to go to Mark in Wisconsin.
[01:13:15.400 --> 01:13:22.400]  Mark, what do you have for us today?
[01:13:22.400 --> 01:13:27.400]  Well, I have a little bit of education for our fine callers.
[01:13:27.400 --> 01:13:29.400]  I should say listeners.
[01:13:29.400 --> 01:13:38.400]  I also am going to tie things back with Mr. Graves and even have a callback on this very instant about open records.
[01:13:38.400 --> 01:13:42.400]  So let's do the open records one first.
[01:13:42.400 --> 01:13:58.400]  Turns out that the federal law Title 31, blah, blah, 1028.201 discusses the anti-money laundering programs for operator of credit card systems.
[01:13:58.400 --> 01:14:12.400]  And Paren A, blah, blah, blah, operator of credit card systems must make their anti-money laundering available Department of Treasury or appropriate financial regulator for review.
[01:14:12.400 --> 01:14:18.400]  Strikes me as if we're going to all play the game of fighting credit cards and credit card debt.
[01:14:18.400 --> 01:14:21.400]  Having that public information might be helpful.
[01:14:21.400 --> 01:14:26.400]  Yes, if they have to make it available to a public agency.
[01:14:26.400 --> 01:14:33.400]  Then it's a public record unless, hold on, have you looked at the case law on that?
[01:14:33.400 --> 01:14:51.400]  If they have a set of procedures to prevent money laundering, would it be prudent to make those procedures publicly available to the money launderer?
[01:14:51.400 --> 01:15:07.400]  Well, more to the point in my particular case, they're claiming that a corporation that I can find no existence of created a credit card account back in 2005.
[01:15:07.400 --> 01:15:15.400]  My position is golly gosh golly gee, how is that possible given these anti-money laundering laws?
[01:15:15.400 --> 01:15:22.400]  The answer would be, oh, the law says they have to follow their policies and procedures.
[01:15:22.400 --> 01:15:23.400]  Okay, great.
[01:15:23.400 --> 01:15:25.400]  How do I get those policy and procedures?
[01:15:25.400 --> 01:15:29.400]  I've asked for them discovery and gotten no response.
[01:15:29.400 --> 01:15:52.400]  But it would appear, since it must be made available to the Department of Treasury or appropriate federal regulator, it appears that they would have it and then the federal regulators or Department of Treasury supposed to pass it off to the Library of Congress, I want to say, where the Library of Congress can reproduce it for a fee.
[01:15:52.400 --> 01:16:01.400]  That is my interpretation. These are my first baby steps towards becoming Jason Leopold-like.
[01:16:01.400 --> 01:16:11.400]  Jason Leopold has been, you do know, Jason Leopold has been referred to as a FOIA terrorist.
[01:16:11.400 --> 01:16:21.400]  Yeah, I just heard that the Southern Poverty Law Center has me listed as an enemy of the state.
[01:16:21.400 --> 01:16:23.400]  Congratulations.
[01:16:23.400 --> 01:16:28.400]  That's what I thought. They're going to make me famous.
[01:16:28.400 --> 01:16:30.400]  They certainly are.
[01:16:30.400 --> 01:16:44.400]  So your previous caller, you mentioned read your laws before starting the fight, and all I could do is go point at the cliff that we're heading towards.
[01:16:44.400 --> 01:16:50.400]  I do need a definition of a legal term you used.
[01:16:50.400 --> 01:16:51.400]  Okay.
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[01:19:30.400 --> 01:19:32.400]  Okay, we are back.
[01:19:32.400 --> 01:19:35.400]  Randy Kelton, rule of law radio.
[01:19:35.400 --> 01:19:42.400]  And we are talking to Mark in Wisconsin and Mark, who I kind of ran off to play with again.
[01:19:42.400 --> 01:19:43.400]  Okay.
[01:19:43.400 --> 01:19:44.400]  Yeah.
[01:19:44.400 --> 01:19:53.400]  All right, in answer to your question, golly gosh is an elegant way to express one's shock or surprise,
[01:19:53.400 --> 01:19:56.400]  mostly used among the middle class English.
[01:19:56.400 --> 01:19:59.400]  Not to be confused with shock and awe.
[01:19:59.400 --> 01:20:00.400]  Right.
[01:20:00.400 --> 01:20:06.400]  That was the golly G used in a satirical statement when someone is treating you like a child.
[01:20:06.400 --> 01:20:14.400]  And then we get the golly G willikers, which the polite version is expression used to show amazement.
[01:20:14.400 --> 01:20:15.400]  Okay.
[01:20:15.400 --> 01:20:21.400]  The listeners can go look it up in Urban Dictionary, golly G willikers, and learn other things that
[01:20:21.400 --> 01:20:24.400]  the radio show doesn't need to have expressed.
[01:20:24.400 --> 01:20:28.400]  Okay, so let's go back to the next issue you had.
[01:20:28.400 --> 01:20:30.400]  Let's continue with the right.
[01:20:30.400 --> 01:20:37.400]  So the callback to the last caller, the violation of due process is recoverable.
[01:20:37.400 --> 01:20:44.400]  Now, if that happens in the state, do I make that claim in the state or do I go straight to the Fed?
[01:20:44.400 --> 01:20:46.400]  Well, it depends.
[01:20:46.400 --> 01:20:49.400]  It depends on the state and the Fed.
[01:20:49.400 --> 01:20:50.400]  Yeah.
[01:20:50.400 --> 01:20:53.400]  It depends on who you want to beat up.
[01:20:53.400 --> 01:21:02.400]  But the case law says that a due process violation rings equally in the state and the Fed.
[01:21:02.400 --> 01:21:14.400]  So if you can coax them into a due process violation and you can always coax them into a due process violation, you can jerk them out into the Fed.
[01:21:14.400 --> 01:21:26.400]  And I'm looking at this as a way to do this, I haven't really got to the federal courts yet to see what they charge for a declaratory judgment suit.
[01:21:26.400 --> 01:21:35.400]  But in the state of Texas, if you file a civil action in the district court, jury costs between $200,000 to $300,000.
[01:21:35.400 --> 01:21:41.400]  But if you file a declaratory judgment suit, it only costs $15.
[01:21:41.400 --> 01:21:53.400]  If you get a ticket, you can jerk them right out into the district court for $15.
[01:21:53.400 --> 01:22:01.400]  Now you go in with the declaratory judgment suit, and if they don't respond to it, you get default judgment or declaratory judgment.
[01:22:01.400 --> 01:22:03.400]  It becomes Res Judicata.
[01:22:03.400 --> 01:22:19.400]  You come back to the municipal court with Res Judicata, and since it has been adjudicated in a case, it cannot be revisited.
[01:22:19.400 --> 01:22:26.400]  So any of these issues, if you have a point of law, this is the thing we keep seeing.
[01:22:26.400 --> 01:22:37.400]  A proceed client comes in with dead bang violation of standing law.
[01:22:37.400 --> 01:22:43.400]  And the courts don't care. They just blow it off. They don't care.
[01:22:43.400 --> 01:22:47.400]  And that's been my issue. How do we fix that?
[01:22:47.400 --> 01:22:54.400]  And I've got Tim. We're going to bring him up shortly.
[01:22:54.400 --> 01:23:01.400]  He's doing that right now. We had a judge ignore everything.
[01:23:01.400 --> 01:23:13.400]  This is a case where there was no final adjudication and the municipality sued to collect on the fine when there was no final adjudication.
[01:23:13.400 --> 01:23:16.400]  The judge didn't care.
[01:23:16.400 --> 01:23:28.400]  He didn't care what the law said, so he just ruled in their favor. So we charged him criminally, pushing the district attorney to file a complaint with the grand jury.
[01:23:28.400 --> 01:23:41.400]  Because the code says, if a judge fails to properly apply the law to the facts, that is a due process violation.
[01:23:41.400 --> 01:23:49.400]  Now, this case, Jokwin v. Somebody. I'm considering if anybody wants to see it.
[01:23:49.400 --> 01:24:02.400]  It said that it was correctable by special remedy. That meant a petition for Rita Maddamas.
[01:24:02.400 --> 01:24:10.400]  But it said that the act was a due process violation.
[01:24:10.400 --> 01:24:19.400]  That's criminal. If a judge denies you a due process, that's criminal in every state.
[01:24:19.400 --> 01:24:23.400]  So why aren't we filing criminally against the judges?
[01:24:23.400 --> 01:24:29.400]  Why don't we set them up to rule against us so we can file criminally against them?
[01:24:29.400 --> 01:24:33.400]  Oh, that is so much fun. Go ahead.
[01:24:33.400 --> 01:24:41.400]  Well, all right. Here's something to consider with the criminal violation, and this is what I'm looking at in my particular instance.
[01:24:41.400 --> 01:24:50.400]  Because the judge made a ruling that financially benefits the attorney, the attorney said, I have a financial problem here.
[01:24:50.400 --> 01:24:53.400]  This allowed to go forward the way he's done it.
[01:24:53.400 --> 01:25:00.400]  The judge went ahead and said, having listened to this, I make this ruling in favor of the attorney.
[01:25:00.400 --> 01:25:04.400]  Now, that's a class G felony in the state of Wisconsin.
[01:25:04.400 --> 01:25:17.400]  If I can manage to get the attorney to not actually have been representing the bank that they're claiming they represent,
[01:25:17.400 --> 01:25:22.400]  Capital One, but instead bought the debt from Capital One,
[01:25:22.400 --> 01:25:33.400]  now I may be able to pry the door open under Wisconsin's RICO Act, and with the Wisconsin's RICO Act being able to show criminality,
[01:25:33.400 --> 01:25:41.400]  be able to make the claim of criminality and make the claim it affects many other parties, that should get interesting.
[01:25:41.400 --> 01:25:47.400]  So you could do that in the form of a private attorney general suit?
[01:25:47.400 --> 01:25:50.400]  Wisconsin doesn't allow that.
[01:25:50.400 --> 01:25:52.400]  Okay, no, hold on, hold on, hold on.
[01:25:52.400 --> 01:25:57.400]  A private attorney general suit is just something they call a suit.
[01:25:57.400 --> 01:26:06.400]  So you're saying that Wisconsin doesn't allow you to sue in your benefit and in the benefit of all others equally?
[01:26:06.400 --> 01:26:12.400]  Correct. For the benefit to all others equally, you have to be an attorney because I looked into this.
[01:26:12.400 --> 01:26:20.400]  The Wisconsin, the RICO suit, there's only like 25 or 30 that have ever hit the appellate level.
[01:26:20.400 --> 01:26:29.400]  Most newspaper people, journalists, have no idea that they're based on my conversations with them.
[01:26:29.400 --> 01:26:32.400]  They have no idea Wisconsin has a RICO law.
[01:26:32.400 --> 01:26:40.400]  And that I can sue personally, but I have to be able to show that others have been affected.
[01:26:40.400 --> 01:26:48.400]  Okay, that would seem to kind of open the door to a private attorney general suit.
[01:26:48.400 --> 01:26:59.400]  But how can you claim damages if you are required to show that others are affected?
[01:26:59.400 --> 01:27:05.400]  Then it would follow that since others are affected and you have to be able to show that,
[01:27:05.400 --> 01:27:13.400]  then you should be able to claim increased damages because you are not the only one that's been harmed.
[01:27:13.400 --> 01:27:19.400]  Is there a punitive damages clause in the RICO statute?
[01:27:19.400 --> 01:27:30.400]  I have not dug long enough and hard enough, nor have I went ahead and channeled Randy Kelton, plagiarize, plagiarize, plagiarize,
[01:27:30.400 --> 01:27:39.400]  and looked at everyone's appeals in the area because there's at least five that I should be able to pull and model my paperwork after.
[01:27:39.400 --> 01:27:52.400]  Now, I do have some other, that one I'm not, I'm thinking of and developing, but I'd like to move on to other things.
[01:27:52.400 --> 01:28:13.400]  Notably, this concept, DeVille versus Cap One, which was decided over in Louisiana in 90s, or in 2001, 2004,
[01:28:13.400 --> 01:28:19.400]  what happened is this DeVille had a Cap One card.
[01:28:19.400 --> 01:28:25.400]  Okay, hold on, hold on, only a Yankee would say that, that's DeVille.
[01:28:25.400 --> 01:28:26.400]  You're right.
[01:28:26.400 --> 01:28:27.400]  DeVille.
[01:28:27.400 --> 01:28:31.400]  Two Ls, Spanish two Ls is a long E. DeVille.
[01:28:31.400 --> 01:28:45.400]  All right, so DeVille defaulted and he was later sent a card by Cap One and in that card, this later card,
[01:28:45.400 --> 01:28:54.400]  they had a clause that said, you agree to pay off the previous charged off dollar amount.
[01:28:54.400 --> 01:29:08.400]  Now, ultimately, the case went against him, et cetera, but what I'm curious is how do you structure a hitting them between the ball being hammered with their eyeballs.
[01:29:08.400 --> 01:29:18.400]  If someone went bankrupt on the charged off amount and Cap One was to make that demand,
[01:29:18.400 --> 01:29:29.400]  could you go ahead and structure something knowing that Value Penguin in 2017 pointed out the Cap One is in the top three of credit granting
[01:29:29.400 --> 01:29:39.400]  and then knit that with the other decisions where credit is important that people have access to and unconscionability.
[01:29:39.400 --> 01:29:43.400]  And I'll let you think about that before you drive off the cliff.
[01:29:43.400 --> 01:29:49.400]  Okay, let me not drive off the cliff if I can get my board up.
[01:29:49.400 --> 01:29:50.400]  There we go.
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[01:33:33.400 --> 01:33:35.400]  Randy Kelkin with Logos Radio.
[01:33:35.400 --> 01:33:38.400]  And we're talking to Mark in Wisconsin.
[01:33:38.400 --> 01:33:40.400]  Okay, Mark.
[01:33:40.400 --> 01:33:41.400]  All right.
[01:33:41.400 --> 01:33:42.400]  Rico.
[01:33:42.400 --> 01:33:44.400]  You have the situation.
[01:33:44.400 --> 01:33:45.400]  Yep.
[01:33:45.400 --> 01:33:50.400]  Well, the Rico was kind of, it was just impassing.
[01:33:50.400 --> 01:34:02.400]  This issue of bankruptcy meant to be final in a new start versus apparently Capital One's willingness to say,
[01:34:02.400 --> 01:34:04.400]  you want a credit card from us?
[01:34:04.400 --> 01:34:06.400]  You want us to extend your credit?
[01:34:06.400 --> 01:34:07.400]  That's great.
[01:34:07.400 --> 01:34:10.400]  Pay the old bill that was charged off.
[01:34:10.400 --> 01:34:14.400]  Now, if you declare bankruptcy on a charged off bill,
[01:34:14.400 --> 01:34:19.400]  I would think it would be unconscionable to say pay off that old debt.
[01:34:19.400 --> 01:34:21.400]  However, it is a contract.
[01:34:21.400 --> 01:34:23.400]  You're willingly agreeing to it.
[01:34:23.400 --> 01:34:28.400]  And if you don't want as a vendor, well, that's fine.
[01:34:28.400 --> 01:34:32.400]  The downside to that argument of you don't want us, don't do business with us,
[01:34:32.400 --> 01:34:37.400]  they are now one of the top three credit grantors.
[01:34:37.400 --> 01:34:46.400]  So how can you structure the fight to be able to hit them with a ball peen hammer right between the eyes?
[01:34:46.400 --> 01:34:47.400]  Yeah.
[01:34:47.400 --> 01:34:49.400]  I just brought that in the email.
[01:34:49.400 --> 01:34:52.400]  I looked at it and it said, that sounds unconscionable.
[01:34:52.400 --> 01:35:03.400]  However, if I were sitting on the other side and say I'm the judge and I'm asked to rule on this issue,
[01:35:03.400 --> 01:35:13.400]  then I say, okay, this guy, you're asking this company to extend credit to you when you have already shown to be a poor credit risk.
[01:35:13.400 --> 01:35:24.400]  And so in order to grant you the credit, it's not unreasonable for the company to ask that you,
[01:35:24.400 --> 01:35:29.400]  that they be able to recover their lost funds.
[01:35:29.400 --> 01:35:33.400]  I can't see a way around this.
[01:35:33.400 --> 01:35:38.400]  I didn't see an easy way around it either.
[01:35:38.400 --> 01:35:47.400]  But I thought, you know, this would be one of those things to toss out there and people can, you know, turn it around, etc.
[01:35:47.400 --> 01:35:50.400]  I'm making part of this observation.
[01:35:50.400 --> 01:35:53.400]  I'm tossing it into my tweeting because I can.
[01:35:53.400 --> 01:35:57.400]  Now, the final two things.
[01:35:57.400 --> 01:36:00.400]  Well, let me make one comment before we move on.
[01:36:00.400 --> 01:36:01.400]  Okay.
[01:36:01.400 --> 01:36:03.400]  Anybody listening to this?
[01:36:03.400 --> 01:36:12.400]  If you're looking to get a credit card after you have defaulted on some credit cards,
[01:36:12.400 --> 01:36:20.400]  you might want to pay real close attention to the contract and see if that clause is in there.
[01:36:20.400 --> 01:36:23.400]  And you mentioned this in your email.
[01:36:23.400 --> 01:36:27.400]  That's a really good dirty rotten trick they can pull.
[01:36:27.400 --> 01:36:34.400]  They can offer you credit and hide that clause down in the contract.
[01:36:34.400 --> 01:36:38.400]  This is after you've defaulted and you've had a few years to get back on your feet.
[01:36:38.400 --> 01:36:43.400]  You're trying to recover your credit, even if you've found bankruptcy.
[01:36:43.400 --> 01:36:50.400]  And a few years pass and you get in a position where you can get back on your feet and you're trying to recover your credit.
[01:36:50.400 --> 01:36:57.400]  So they'll say, yeah, we'll help you out. We'll give you credit and they hide that clause way down in the contract.
[01:36:57.400 --> 01:37:05.400]  You sign the agreement, then you try to use credit and they say, hold on, hold on.
[01:37:05.400 --> 01:37:09.400]  We're not going to give you any credit until you pay off that old bill.
[01:37:09.400 --> 01:37:20.400]  Now they have put you right back where you were before you filed for bankruptcy or took whatever action you took.
[01:37:20.400 --> 01:37:25.400]  That looks pretty dirty rotten and underhanded.
[01:37:25.400 --> 01:37:35.400]  However, we are in a free society and we are free to screw up if we want to.
[01:37:35.400 --> 01:37:47.400]  Well, this is where, yes, and there are some decisions talking about the 300% interest in high usury, etc.
[01:37:47.400 --> 01:37:55.400]  But I'm not really sure that the bankruptcy would seem to be a way to trump it.
[01:37:55.400 --> 01:38:00.400]  But I haven't found anything where a debt was expired by bankruptcy.
[01:38:00.400 --> 01:38:06.400]  Somebody made a payment on it and then that we brought the debt back.
[01:38:06.400 --> 01:38:09.400]  I don't know what the case law is on that kind of situation.
[01:38:09.400 --> 01:38:26.400]  I can't imagine what would prevent me from agreeing to pay a debt that I did not necessarily owe in order to secure a benefit in the form of new credit.
[01:38:26.400 --> 01:38:35.400]  That's kind of what I was thinking, but perhaps you knew case law or maybe some listeners have a way out.
[01:38:35.400 --> 01:38:37.400]  Little share.
[01:38:37.400 --> 01:38:41.400]  Now, failure to apply the laws to the facts.
[01:38:41.400 --> 01:38:49.400]  Now, in small claims, we have many hearings where there's actually no court reporter, no record being made.
[01:38:49.400 --> 01:38:57.400]  Fail to apply the laws to the facts in that case, how pre-tell are you going to be able to nail them on that?
[01:38:57.400 --> 01:39:09.400]  Well, part of it is when you look at the progression of a case, sometimes the failure is obvious based on the case itself.
[01:39:09.400 --> 01:39:27.400]  But if you sneak in there with a recorder, then I don't know if there's any circuits left that have not declared that we have a right to record our public officials and inform us of their duty.
[01:39:27.400 --> 01:39:44.400]  And we have some cases where people have snuck in with a recorder. I was in a eviction hearing where I had filed as an interpreter and the judge said,
[01:39:44.400 --> 01:40:01.400]  if everyone needs to turn off their cell phones, I said, but you're on her. I wanted to record these proceedings so I can play it on the radio.
[01:40:01.400 --> 01:40:14.400]  But she knew me and I'm sitting there. I'm not too perturbed. And she starts to reconvene the hearing and then she has this thought.
[01:40:14.400 --> 01:40:24.400]  She looked over at me and said, Mr. Kelton, do you have anything else on your person capable of recording these proceedings?
[01:40:24.400 --> 01:40:38.400]  Judge, I really wish you hadn't have asked me that. And I had my ID card for my WT Korean and my Rula radio ID card.
[01:40:38.400 --> 01:40:49.400]  I had a zip drive stuck to it with a felco and I pulled that off and I turned it off and the pain had come over and jerked it out of my hand.
[01:40:49.400 --> 01:40:57.400]  He stomped back over to the side. Mr. Kelton, anything else? Oh, judge!
[01:40:57.400 --> 01:41:05.400]  They reached in one pocket and pulled out another. Oh, that was so funny, but now I'm going to charge her criminally.
[01:41:05.400 --> 01:41:25.400]  But point is, if the judge was not aware that you were recording the proceedings, then there are no grounds to raise an issue. So sneak one in, record it.
[01:41:25.400 --> 01:41:32.400]  I will certainly consider that for the next time somebody picks a fight with me.
[01:41:32.400 --> 01:41:45.400]  This fight, I think I'm far enough along, I'm going to raise as an issue the recording as an appellate issue straight to using Wisconsin's rate of supervision.
[01:41:45.400 --> 01:41:52.400]  You're not in a court of non-record, are you?
[01:41:52.400 --> 01:42:10.400]  Oh, I was in the court of record. The first thing I did, again, channeling Mr. Kelton, the first thing I did is I filed a motion that I have an honest court proceeding because I filed that and said that's a state of Wisconsin right.
[01:42:10.400 --> 01:42:20.400]  That got shot down. Not immediately. The second thing is I asked for the right to record the session and that motion was denied.
[01:42:20.400 --> 01:42:29.400]  Okay, now that I have that denied motion, I have the ability to put that forward under the rate of supervision.
[01:42:29.400 --> 01:42:37.400]  Hold on, hold on. In what circuit is Wisconsin in? What federal circuit?
[01:42:37.400 --> 01:42:39.400]  Seventh. Seventh circuit.
[01:42:39.400 --> 01:42:49.400]  Has the Seventh Circuit issued a ruling stating that a citizen has the right to record their public officials and the performers of their duty?
[01:42:49.400 --> 01:42:52.400]  I will have to double check.
[01:42:52.400 --> 01:43:00.400]  Okay, we just got one in Texas. It is Turner v. Driver.
[01:43:00.400 --> 01:43:02.400]  Okay.
[01:43:02.400 --> 01:43:15.400]  So once you have that, now when I go into a Texas court and they tell me I can't record, now instead of recording, I can call 911.
[01:43:15.400 --> 01:43:19.400]  Ask them to come arrest the judge.
[01:43:19.400 --> 01:43:25.400]  This is a due process, right? And you probably got it in Wisconsin.
[01:43:25.400 --> 01:43:43.400]  I'm pretty sure we do, but I will look that up as homework. You mentioned eviction. I'll just counter. Apparently they're now doing something called evictionlab.org where they are tracking the effects of eviction and data about it.
[01:43:43.400 --> 01:43:49.400]  And we'll mention this just before we drive off the cliff.
[01:43:49.400 --> 01:43:59.400]  Okay, I'm glad you could hear that bumper music, because I cannot. Randy Kelton, the root of our radio, will be right back.
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[01:46:13.400 --> 01:46:34.400]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton with our radio and we're talking to Mark in Wisconsin. Okay, Mark, we didn't fall off the cliff. Thank you.
[01:46:34.400 --> 01:46:50.400]  You betcha. The last thing I want to cover is Residue Dakota in my particular instance. Now, the Fed has the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act and tolls $1,000 at a time, ding, ding, ding.
[01:46:50.400 --> 01:47:08.400]  I have a 2007 case, SIGIR versus AFNI, which is in the Eastern District of Wisconsin. So it would be controlling, as I understand, for Milwaukee in Wisconsin.
[01:47:08.400 --> 01:47:15.400]  And since they're in the Eastern District, and actually the building's in the same city, maybe 15 blocks apart.
[01:47:15.400 --> 01:47:38.400]  Now, that case says that the Wisconsin Credit Act, if there is a violation, list violations 427104, prohibited practices, and they point out that if something is prohibited with the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, it is therefore prohibited in state law.
[01:47:38.400 --> 01:47:51.400]  So, do I try to ding these people with the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act in the state, or do I... Yes?
[01:47:51.400 --> 01:48:00.400]  Absolutely yes. Okay. Then you don't have a problem with them trying to remove it to the Fed. Okay.
[01:48:00.400 --> 01:48:04.400]  That is if you want to stay in the state.
[01:48:04.400 --> 01:48:17.400]  Odd, frankly, I'd like to go to the Fed, because if I go to the Fed, I get to list the bank as the bank itself.
[01:48:17.400 --> 01:48:30.400]  In this case, the attorneys went ahead and said, we've looked at records, and we therefore found that everything we have true, complete, and accurate computer records and file cabinet records.
[01:48:30.400 --> 01:48:42.400]  And they claimed that it was the attorney's records that were the true, accurate, and complete stuff. They said nothing about the bank.
[01:48:42.400 --> 01:48:48.400]  Now, I challenged that, and my challenge got shot down. Okay, fine.
[01:48:48.400 --> 01:49:08.400]  If we go to the Fed, they're likely to be served at corporate headquarters. And if this is truly a case where the debt was sold to some attorneys who are acting as debt collectors and pretending that Capital One is suing,
[01:49:08.400 --> 01:49:22.400]  that creates an entire different dynamic in the state court, where the state court has previously made a ruling that, no, no, no, no, no. They say that Capital One is suing you, and they're the lawyers for Capital One, then by God, that's what's happening,
[01:49:22.400 --> 01:49:30.400]  versus everything that makes it look like they were debt buyers and with the purchase of the debt.
[01:49:30.400 --> 01:49:44.400]  Wait a minute. How can Capital One sue you in Wisconsin if Capital One headquarters is not based in Wisconsin?
[01:49:44.400 --> 01:50:04.400]  And they're not a registered foreign corporation. That has already been brought up and already been shot down by the judge. That is part of the reason why I have drafted, but not submitted, a writ of supervision to bring that to the Supreme Court of Wisconsin.
[01:50:04.400 --> 01:50:17.400]  Hold on. Hold on. Before we pass this issue, there's something that I have been missing in Texas state law, and you might want to look at in Wisconsin state law.
[01:50:17.400 --> 01:50:36.400]  Texas state law, if a judge rules, gives me a ruling without a judgment. And for those of you who don't know what that means, an order in the Fed is meaningless without a judgment. There must be both.
[01:50:36.400 --> 01:50:49.400]  An order says, this is what I order. The judgment says, this is the findings of fact and conclusions that law that show how I got to this order.
[01:50:49.400 --> 01:51:10.400]  In the Fed, there must be both. But in the States, that generally is not the case. But in Texas, if you get an order that does not include findings of fact and conclusions at law under 297, rule civil procedure 297, you can request findings of fact and conclusions at law.
[01:51:10.400 --> 01:51:16.400]  Is that the case in Wisconsin?
[01:51:16.400 --> 01:51:37.400]  All right. What is the situation in Wisconsin? You're getting down the right rabbit trail. In Wisconsin, the at the time in the 805 section, at the time when a judgment is produced, it's supposed to have a finding of facts and conclusions of law.
[01:51:37.400 --> 01:51:46.400]  Now, part of the... Okay, hold on. If it doesn't, is there a statutory remedy?
[01:51:46.400 --> 01:51:59.400]  Well, this is where I'm looking at a bear trap here for the attorney. Because the attorney has a duty to not make a misrepresentation of law in their pleadings, correct?
[01:51:59.400 --> 01:52:04.400]  Exactly. That's in the bar association standards.
[01:52:04.400 --> 01:52:10.400]  Correct. Correct. So it comes under speaking with candor to the court.
[01:52:10.400 --> 01:52:29.400]  Correct. So this attorney has made the representation that what has transpired so far is final. And what I'm going to do is claim that because it is fine, according to him, it is final.
[01:52:29.400 --> 01:52:41.400]  Okay. Hold on. Hold on. I don't understand what you're referring to. What has transpired so far that could be construed as final?
[01:52:41.400 --> 01:52:59.400]  All right. The denial that the... An example and a good one is the denial or the court deciding that capital one has the right to sue even though they are not a registered foreign corporation.
[01:52:59.400 --> 01:53:00.400]  Okay.
[01:53:00.400 --> 01:53:21.400]  What makes that particular nuance argument very interesting in this particular case. On the day that the attorney put a written documentation into the court saying capital one can sue just fine, the Supreme Court of the State of Wisconsin issued an opinion on an entirely different case.
[01:53:21.400 --> 01:53:32.400]  But right at the... During the opinion, one of the judges said, you know what really grinds my gears? They got not foreign corporations using the Wisconsin court system.
[01:53:32.400 --> 01:53:49.400]  And since a writ of supervision can go straight to the Supreme, it would appear to me that I have a Supreme Court judge who would really want to have a discussion on this idea of foreign corporations using state courts.
[01:53:49.400 --> 01:54:02.400]  And there's an entirely different judge on the court, Supreme Court, who her master's work was about, you know, lawyers aren't well regulated and wrote all about lawyer regulation.
[01:54:02.400 --> 01:54:12.400]  So I may be able to hit hot buttons in two different ways. To get to the hot buttons in two different ways, this attorney has said, this stuff was final.
[01:54:12.400 --> 01:54:28.400]  These decisions were final. Well, your honors, under this writ of supervision, this allows for a process to be interrupted when these kinds of things have happened. He's saying it's final.
[01:54:28.400 --> 01:54:36.400]  What say a few? Oh, and, you know, what say a few about this whole idea of a foreign corporation using state?
[01:54:36.400 --> 01:54:44.400]  Wait, isn't this proper for an interlocutory appeal?
[01:54:44.400 --> 01:55:02.400]  It might be proper for an interlocutory appeal, but you know what I'm pro say, and I've got this stuff. The other part is the purpose of a writ of supervision is to create appellate or better case law in a case that normally wouldn't happen.
[01:55:02.400 --> 01:55:22.400]  And so since this would move forward, the state of Wisconsin not allowing foreign corporations to use their court would move the state forward and make a definitive statement of law, whether it's cool or not, it would be appropriate for the use of this process.
[01:55:22.400 --> 01:55:31.400]  That does sound interesting. That sounds like a petition for declaratory adjustment.
[01:55:31.400 --> 01:55:46.400]  Well, in a petition for declaratory adjustment in the Fed and in the state of Texas, you're not asking the court to rule on which party has a right to recover.
[01:55:46.400 --> 01:55:53.400]  You're asking the court to rule on a issue of law.
[01:55:53.400 --> 01:56:03.400]  What the Fed says is you ask the court to rule on the rights of the parties.
[01:56:03.400 --> 01:56:18.400]  And I filed them in foreclosure cases and I say that the assignment that was filed in this case was filed by someone who did not have anything filed in the case.
[01:56:18.400 --> 01:56:30.400]  In the public record that would give them authority to make this assignment, and that's in violation of 13.001 Texas property code.
[01:56:30.400 --> 01:56:44.400]  So we asked the court to rule. Can this entity file a claim against real property in the public record when it does not have authority under 13.001?
[01:56:44.400 --> 01:56:51.400]  We're not asking the court to grant damages or grant a claim to one party or another.
[01:56:51.400 --> 01:56:56.400]  Just rule on a specific point of law.
[01:56:56.400 --> 01:57:05.400]  That sounds like what your, what did you call it, a petition for discretionary use?
[01:57:05.400 --> 01:57:09.400]  A writ of supervision is what's called a writ of supervision.
[01:57:09.400 --> 01:57:21.400]  The nice is a writ of supervision was written up in a couple of the Wisconsin bar magazines going, hey, this is seldom used, but it's great when you can use it.
[01:57:21.400 --> 01:57:32.400]  And what better way of building my reputation of pulling out the seldom used stuff to play these monkeys?
[01:57:32.400 --> 01:57:39.400]  Okay, and what does this writ of supervision grant the court power to do?
[01:57:39.400 --> 01:58:00.400]  It grants the appellate or the supreme to take an issue that normally isn't going to show up at the appellate or the supreme level and make a ruling that then becomes like a appellate or a supreme ruling.
[01:58:00.400 --> 01:58:12.400]  In the particular case of a corporation suing, any time where it would get to an appellate level, my guess is the corporations tuck their tails and run away.
[01:58:12.400 --> 01:58:16.400]  So we never get to the appellate running off the cliff.
[01:58:16.400 --> 01:58:21.400]  Wait a minute, I still don't understand what that means.
[01:58:21.400 --> 01:58:37.400]  It kind of sounds like a petition for declaratory adjustment, but not exactly. How do you define an issue that would generally not get to the appellate level?
[01:58:37.400 --> 01:58:41.400]  Well, we'll talk about that on the other side.
[01:58:41.400 --> 01:58:43.400]  Okay, that'll work.
[01:58:43.400 --> 01:58:50.400]  Rand Kelton, we'll be right back.
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