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[00:50.360 --> 00:53.520] Today in history.
[00:53.520 --> 00:56.840] In recent news, President Trump said from the diplomatic reception room of the White
[00:56.840 --> 01:00.880] House earlier today that the United States will formally recognize Jerusalem as the capital
[01:00.880 --> 01:05.200] of Israel, with announcing preparations to move the United States embassy from Tel Aviv
[01:05.200 --> 01:06.720] to the city of God.
[01:06.720 --> 01:10.480] Trump stated that, quote, today we finally acknowledge the obvious that Jerusalem is
[01:10.480 --> 01:11.760] Israel's capital.
[01:11.760 --> 01:14.920] This is nothing more or less than a recognition of reality.
[01:14.920 --> 01:18.720] It is also the right thing to do, something that has to be done.
[01:18.720 --> 01:22.880] Everyone from Pope Francis, the Chinese Foreign Minister, and European leaders have voiced
[01:22.880 --> 01:25.600] their concerns with this decision from President Trump.
[01:25.600 --> 01:29.800] Federica Morgani, high representative of the European Union foreign affairs and security
[01:29.800 --> 01:34.640] policy, made clear that Europe saw the President's decision as a threat to peace in the Middle
[01:34.640 --> 01:38.960] East, stating that, quote, we believe that any action that would undermine these efforts
[01:38.960 --> 01:40.400] must absolutely be avoided.
[01:40.400 --> 01:45.160] A way must be found through negotiations to resolve the status of Jerusalem as a future
[01:45.160 --> 01:46.880] capital of both states.
[01:46.880 --> 01:50.600] Former director of the CIA under the Obama administration, John O'Brennan, released a
[01:50.600 --> 01:54.800] statement saying that President Trump's words were reckless and would damage U.S. interest
[01:54.800 --> 01:58.400] in the Middle East for years to come would make the region more volatile.
[01:58.400 --> 02:03.000] It is yet unclear whether the President has any legitimate reason for making this statement,
[02:03.000 --> 02:12.440] other than an act to appeal to his evangelical and pro-Israel voting base.
[02:12.440 --> 02:16.640] Nearly 50 mayors from across the United States concluded a climate change summit in Chicago
[02:16.640 --> 02:21.760] today where a formal agreement to reduce greenhouse emissions in their cities was signed by the
[02:21.760 --> 02:22.760] attending mayors.
[02:22.760 --> 02:25.960] The act of defiance, considering the Trump administration's recent decision to back the
[02:25.960 --> 02:30.560] U.S. out of the Paris climate agreement, no surprise former President Barack Obama was
[02:30.560 --> 02:34.160] also attending and even spoke at the summit, telling attendees that they are America's
[02:34.160 --> 02:36.960] new front line leaders on climate change.
[02:36.960 --> 02:40.840] Mayors from cities in Mexico and Canada joined their U.S. counterparts in committing to
[02:40.840 --> 02:42.640] reduce carbon emissions.
[02:42.640 --> 02:46.600] Vancouver Mayor Gregor Robertson said in a statement that we stand shoulder to shoulder
[02:46.600 --> 02:53.600] with all of the U.S. cities and mayors that are committed to the Paris agreement.
[02:53.600 --> 03:08.600] This was Rick Brody with your low day out for December 6, 2017.
[03:08.600 --> 03:33.020] Thank you.
[03:38.600 --> 03:43.600] You were eight and you had that trace, you go to school and learn to go and learn to
[03:43.600 --> 03:44.600] go.
[03:44.600 --> 03:45.600] Okay.
[03:45.600 --> 03:46.600] Howdy, howdy.
[03:46.600 --> 03:50.360] Randy Kelton and Debra Stephens, rule of law radio on this Thursday, the seventh day
[03:50.360 --> 03:58.600] of December, 2017 for all your illustrious Toro Harbor Day.
[03:58.600 --> 03:59.600] Okay.
[03:59.600 --> 04:08.600] I'm going to start out just by mentioning that the electronic lawyer is alive and well
[04:08.600 --> 04:16.600] and living on the web after some 10 years of research and trying to figure this out.
[04:16.600 --> 04:20.600] I finally have the software up and working.
[04:20.600 --> 04:24.600] It's actually working better than I expected.
[04:24.600 --> 04:25.600] It's still in beta version.
[04:25.600 --> 04:35.840] We've still got some minor little issues we have to address, but overall the system is
[04:35.840 --> 04:38.200] up and working the way it should.
[04:38.200 --> 04:48.600] We're starting out with traffic and I'm in the process of laying in the content onto
[04:48.600 --> 04:49.600] the software.
[04:49.600 --> 04:53.280] It took a lot of time to get the software up.
[04:53.280 --> 04:54.280] Now that it's up.
[04:54.280 --> 05:03.480] Now I have a massive amount of content to put onto the software, but now every step
[05:03.480 --> 05:09.480] I take makes the system that much better.
[05:09.480 --> 05:12.240] It's actually up where you can see it working.
[05:12.240 --> 05:14.200] So I'm really thrilled about that.
[05:14.200 --> 05:20.000] It's taken 10 years to get here and we're about to start winding their clocks with it.
[05:20.000 --> 05:28.600] We're going to start out with two guests that are two callers that have been, that actually
[05:28.600 --> 05:38.120] use the site, pull down the documents from the site and file them and then things happen
[05:38.120 --> 05:41.120] after that and I'll kind of let them explain.
[05:41.120 --> 05:44.000] We're going to start with Jason from Texas.
[05:44.000 --> 05:45.000] Jason.
[05:45.000 --> 05:50.480] Good evening, sir, congratulations on your electronic lawyer.
[05:50.480 --> 05:56.640] Good evening and I am thrilled about it and everything we're doing here from this point
[05:56.640 --> 06:05.440] on will just give me more to add to the electronic lawyer tool.
[06:05.440 --> 06:12.680] Each new issue we address, I can then now take the documentation we produce and add
[06:12.680 --> 06:20.520] it to the mail, excuse me, I'm here in Tennessee where they've got a little different pollen
[06:20.520 --> 06:24.360] than Texas and sometimes it sneaks up on me.
[06:24.360 --> 06:31.760] Okay, Jason, will you kind of give us a quick synopsis of what has happened in your case?
[06:31.760 --> 06:38.720] Well, you know, for those that are unfamiliar with it, I was charged with a speeding citation.
[06:38.720 --> 06:45.640] I went ahead and drew the kangaroo municipal court that was a complete railroad job and
[06:45.640 --> 06:50.520] I am on now an appeal process in the county court.
[06:50.520 --> 06:58.680] I've had my second hearing, second appearance just as a matter of fact this morning and
[06:58.680 --> 07:07.520] it is just as much a railroad pride as the first one.
[07:07.520 --> 07:15.040] I've been filing papers and pretty much making the same argument all along, the biggest one
[07:15.040 --> 07:24.960] being the challenge to subject matter jurisdiction and your public servants or the public servants
[07:24.960 --> 07:31.360] whether you voted for them or not are just bent on doing things, how they want to do
[07:31.360 --> 07:46.840] them or how they've always been done, refused to acknowledge fact and law and are just full
[07:46.840 --> 07:53.520] steam ahead with the intimidation and the bullying.
[07:53.520 --> 08:02.480] And so you just went to a, you did a hearing in the municipal court and then you've appealed
[08:02.480 --> 08:05.840] to the county court and went into the county court.
[08:05.840 --> 08:12.960] What was the nature of the first hearing or the hearing you had today in the county court?
[08:12.960 --> 08:19.600] Well, you know, my first appearance in that court was 30 some odd days ago and of course
[08:19.600 --> 08:25.000] it was their, you know, arraignment hearing but since I had filed all those pleadings
[08:25.000 --> 08:33.240] prior to that, we started, it turned into a motion hearing on subject matter jurisdiction.
[08:33.240 --> 08:39.640] The judge was very unhappy about it, the prosecutor had really not much to say anything about it.
[08:39.640 --> 08:49.000] The judge set a reset to today to give prosecutors sufficient time to review those pleadings and
[08:49.000 --> 08:51.200] you know, make his argument.
[08:51.200 --> 09:02.960] Now, 47 days elapsed between the time I filed those and today and I was never served a response
[09:02.960 --> 09:05.200] not to be a certified male.
[09:05.200 --> 09:09.720] No response was filed with clerk the court because I checked this morning as soon as
[09:09.720 --> 09:21.440] I got there, I objected to his argument on, you know, they're surprised he had more than
[09:21.440 --> 09:30.240] sufficient time to serve notice and leave me sufficient time to repair, to prepare a response.
[09:30.240 --> 09:41.600] The judge didn't care, he believed that it improved subject matter jurisdiction, his
[09:41.600 --> 09:52.160] argument was that he believed that the officer who initiated the citation was in fact within
[09:52.160 --> 09:55.840] her legal authority to do so.
[09:55.840 --> 10:09.280] Well, I'm glad that the judge is a true believer, I suspect we will test that belief system.
[10:09.280 --> 10:11.720] I have a very intention of it.
[10:11.720 --> 10:19.960] The first thing I'm looking at is an arraignment, they initiated a hearing for an arraignment.
[10:19.960 --> 10:29.680] Well the problem with that is in a matter of a misdemeanor not punishable by imprisonment
[10:29.680 --> 10:32.760] there can be no arraignment.
[10:32.760 --> 10:44.680] So the judge had a cause to be sent out a notice notifying you to appear at court for
[10:44.680 --> 10:45.680] this hearing.
[10:45.680 --> 10:56.960] Well, since this hearing is illegal to hold, then I called that first abuse process.
[10:56.960 --> 11:10.360] And that's the crime in Texas, I remember right, it's felony, where it's abusive process
[11:10.360 --> 11:18.680] or simulating a legal process, so in this case it looked like a legal process but since
[11:18.680 --> 11:28.800] it was a process the judge was not allowed to hold, to have or to preside over then it
[11:28.800 --> 11:34.600] appears as though it's simulating a legal process.
[11:34.600 --> 11:38.320] I can't remember the code, you rattled it off for me and I looked it up at the time
[11:38.320 --> 11:43.600] and I probably have it written down somewhere but I specifically remember reading that.
[11:43.600 --> 11:46.680] I think it's 3248.
[11:46.680 --> 11:50.080] If it is not punishable by imprisonment.
[11:50.080 --> 11:59.680] Oh, that code, the code that's an arraignment, it's really hard to misinterpret that.
[11:59.680 --> 12:05.280] Chapter 26, Texas Code of Criminal Procedure, is titled Arraignment.
[12:05.280 --> 12:15.800] Yeah, first one, 26.01, an arraignment may be held in the matter of a felony or a misdemeanor
[12:15.800 --> 12:23.440] punishable by imprisonment, now it must be construed that the legislature took special
[12:23.440 --> 12:33.600] care to ensure that the very first statute under arraignment, restricted arraignments
[12:33.600 --> 12:38.800] to misdemeanors, I mean to felonies that misdemeanors punishable by imprisonment.
[12:38.800 --> 12:43.000] They didn't do that by mistake.
[12:43.000 --> 12:52.680] So there are multiple things that judges are refusing to acknowledge that legislators
[12:52.680 --> 12:54.680] have taken to time.
[12:54.680 --> 13:03.040] The language is just as crystal clear as that and it specifically pertains to municipal
[13:03.040 --> 13:09.320] police officers enforcing traffic codes.
[13:09.320 --> 13:19.400] They specifically map out population requirements, location requirement for eligibility for municipal
[13:19.400 --> 13:25.840] officers to even receive certified training from the Department of Public Safety.
[13:25.840 --> 13:32.000] And even go as far as to say at the end of this section that if continuing education
[13:32.000 --> 13:41.360] is not periodically kept up with, that they shall not enforce the chapter.
[13:41.360 --> 13:44.600] You're talking about 644.01.
[13:44.600 --> 13:46.840] I think it's 101, 644.01.
[13:46.840 --> 13:51.320] 101, yes, correct, I'm sorry, 101.
[13:51.320 --> 13:57.640] I think 103 is where it specifically talks about continuing education, even refers them
[13:57.640 --> 14:06.080] to a sub-chapter at 1701 of the Occupations Code for Continuing Education and it specifically
[14:06.080 --> 14:12.880] says they don't keep up with it, they shall not enforce this chapter and it applies to
[14:12.880 --> 14:19.080] municipal officers, sheriffs and sheriff's deputies, that's how specific the language
[14:19.080 --> 14:22.080] is.
[14:22.080 --> 14:32.680] So what I'm doing here is trying to be very pedantic and detailed and in this approach
[14:32.680 --> 14:35.960] we're going after the judge.
[14:35.960 --> 14:40.240] What did the judge do wrong that we can go after the judge for?
[14:40.240 --> 14:45.240] Next we'll come back and go after the prosecutor and analyze what he did.
[14:45.240 --> 14:53.000] But first we do the judge, how many complaints can we file against the judge and how can
[14:53.000 --> 15:00.680] we structure those complaints so that one adds to another?
[15:00.680 --> 15:08.760] You have a grand jury, 12 people just like you and me or any 12 people they're likely
[15:08.760 --> 15:12.680] to pull off the street somewhere.
[15:12.680 --> 15:18.080] And for the most part it's been my experience, if you take someone with no background in
[15:18.080 --> 15:27.720] this area, it's hard to convince them that there are police and prosecutors and judges
[15:27.720 --> 15:37.680] or are acting in horrible violation of law, you can go and say that to them but they have
[15:37.680 --> 15:45.600] a dog in this hunt, whether they have an actual interest in this individual case, they all
[15:45.600 --> 15:51.920] have an investment in being protected by their police in the courts.
[15:51.920 --> 15:56.600] We have a need to believe that the courts are fair and honest.
[15:56.600 --> 16:06.920] I have a friend who was an ex-captain in the KGB and she said that in Russia the courts
[16:06.920 --> 16:12.400] are more fair than they are in the United States because they realized if they weren't
[16:12.400 --> 16:18.160] fair the people would rise up and throw them out.
[16:18.160 --> 16:25.720] These courts here have seemingly forgotten that we have the power to go after them and
[16:25.720 --> 16:30.840] the judges they have this notion that if you don't like what I've done you can appeal
[16:30.840 --> 16:32.880] to the Court of Appeals.
[16:32.880 --> 16:39.840] In this examination I want to talk about appealing to a grand jury instead of the Court of Appeals
[16:39.840 --> 16:41.800] and see how that works out for them.
[16:41.800 --> 16:47.520] Hang on, Dr. Goodebrake, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rula Law Radio, our call in number
[16:47.520 --> 17:03.560] 512-646-1984, we'll be right back.
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[19:23.080 --> 19:35.120] Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, rule of law radio on this Thursday, the 7th
[19:35.120 --> 19:42.040] day of December 2017 and we're talking to Jason in Texas and what I'm looking at here
[19:42.040 --> 19:49.680] is we have James to follow, James is connected with this case as well.
[19:49.680 --> 19:59.400] And Jason, as I understand, James' issue is with the same judge in that you're in the
[19:59.400 --> 20:00.400] county court.
[20:00.400 --> 20:09.320] His issue was with the first judge that I had in the municipal court, he's appearing
[20:09.320 --> 20:13.360] before the same county judge that I am in the county court.
[20:13.360 --> 20:19.320] Oh, okay, that makes it even better.
[20:19.320 --> 20:27.400] James was a court watcher at the first hearing and was arrested in the courtroom for acting
[20:27.400 --> 20:33.400] as assistance of counsel to Jason and we'll get to that next.
[20:33.400 --> 20:43.680] I'm trying to take this apart piece by piece and create a set of complaints that when we
[20:43.680 --> 20:53.320] file them, someone who knows nothing about what's going on and someone who has an investment
[20:53.320 --> 21:02.080] in being able to trust the system, we'll look at these and cannot help but find serious
[21:02.080 --> 21:04.680] problems.
[21:04.680 --> 21:16.200] So we start out with a set of complaints structured such that each one appears to add to the one
[21:16.200 --> 21:22.160] before it so that when we file these with the grand jury, they read the first one and
[21:22.160 --> 21:28.040] they say, oh, come on, give me a break and then they read the second one that leads from
[21:28.040 --> 21:31.920] the first and then the third and then the fourth.
[21:31.920 --> 21:39.120] What we want to demonstrate with the complaints that we're filing is that in order to railroad
[21:39.120 --> 21:48.320] people the way they're doing, they have to violate multiple statues that the body of
[21:48.320 --> 21:55.200] law is very well constructed and the kinds of shenanigans these judges and prosecutors
[21:55.200 --> 22:02.960] are pulling are nothing new, that these have been done for a very long time and our courts
[22:02.960 --> 22:11.680] and our legislators have had a long time to analyze the problems improper procedures
[22:11.680 --> 22:22.520] cause and have laid in legislation to prevent these kinds of shyster shenanigans.
[22:22.520 --> 22:30.840] So we want to make it look like the courts and prosecutors and the judges are acting
[22:30.840 --> 22:37.720] in a concerted and deliberate effort to deny people due process.
[22:37.720 --> 22:44.120] If you have an investment in the system, if I come in here and say this judge is a no
[22:44.120 --> 22:53.120] good rotten unscrupulous scoundrel, you're going to tend to side with the judge because
[22:53.120 --> 22:58.040] first off you're not going to trust me because I'm the one being accused and everybody accused
[22:58.040 --> 23:04.320] is always innocent no matter what and anytime the judge rules against us, well, we want
[23:04.320 --> 23:06.160] to go after the judge.
[23:06.160 --> 23:11.440] So it's going to be their tendency to rule in favor of their public officials.
[23:11.440 --> 23:18.920] So how do we stack this up in a way that they just can't get around the fact that something
[23:18.920 --> 23:29.840] is horribly wrong here and taking some notes here, abuse of process, simulating a legal
[23:29.840 --> 23:41.760] process, official oppression, petition for quote, warrant or removal, an allegation of
[23:41.760 --> 23:49.880] a pattern of abuse under Chapter 72 penal code, that's Texas' version of the RICO statute.
[23:49.880 --> 23:55.760] And this is just cursory, this is just going over the top.
[23:55.760 --> 24:03.000] I'll be getting a complete statement of facts or start out with a timeline and a statement
[24:03.000 --> 24:10.240] of facts in every step of the process where we can find that the judge or the prosecutor
[24:10.240 --> 24:13.640] has stepped across the line or even a bailiff.
[24:13.640 --> 24:19.560] We just start laying into complaints and I will take what we're doing here and build
[24:19.560 --> 24:30.400] this into the electronic lawyer model because there's a pretty good chance if they're doing
[24:30.400 --> 24:36.600] this to Jason that they've done it to somebody else, what do you think, Jason?
[24:36.600 --> 24:38.000] Absolutely.
[24:38.000 --> 24:46.840] If you have been pulled over, if you have been cited, it's going to happen to you.
[24:46.840 --> 25:03.320] And now this is how they do the people's business with bad luck twice, that constitutes
[25:03.320 --> 25:10.480] coincidence three times, well, that starts constituting a pattern.
[25:10.480 --> 25:20.840] So once we, what we're trying to do is build a secondary pattern, a pattern of going after
[25:20.840 --> 25:33.720] public officials by a detailed analysis of their practices, every tiny little misstep
[25:33.720 --> 25:36.320] we sting them for it.
[25:36.320 --> 25:43.720] And from my experience of doing this, it appears as though the more minor your accusations
[25:43.720 --> 25:46.720] are, the more power they have.
[25:46.720 --> 25:51.520] So that comes in and does something really horrible.
[25:51.520 --> 25:54.600] What you expect to get clobbered for, and when you do get clobbered for doing something
[25:54.600 --> 25:58.720] really horrible, you're not as generally as surprised.
[25:58.720 --> 26:06.720] So when you get clobbered for doing what you think is proper practice and procedure,
[26:06.720 --> 26:16.400] and for what is just excruciatingly minor, then it becomes more frightening and devastating.
[26:16.400 --> 26:19.400] These guys think they're immune.
[26:19.400 --> 26:24.760] And when we demonstrate that they're not immune, go ahead.
[26:24.760 --> 26:31.160] I said in their behavior, which sure does indicate that that is the mode of thinking
[26:31.160 --> 26:38.760] that they are immune, untouchable, can do whatever they want to whoever they want, whenever
[26:38.760 --> 26:39.760] they want.
[26:39.760 --> 26:45.040] Well, we'll see how that works for them.
[26:45.040 --> 26:50.920] We have to kind of go through the front part and give them opportunity to screw up.
[26:50.920 --> 26:57.600] And that's difficult because when they're filing charges against you and making threats
[26:57.600 --> 27:05.960] of using the system against you, it's frightening, it's, I guess, disturbing to say the least.
[27:05.960 --> 27:12.400] And in order to get them set up, you have to put up with them doing this to you.
[27:12.400 --> 27:18.720] And for the first time through, it's pretty disconcerting.
[27:18.720 --> 27:22.600] But we have to give them opportunity to screw up.
[27:22.600 --> 27:32.760] And in this case, as with lots of others, they have, as they always have been, been
[27:32.760 --> 27:40.280] very accommodating because they seem to go out of their way to screw up everything they
[27:40.280 --> 27:41.280] can.
[27:41.280 --> 27:48.240] It only got two hours, and it would take the whole show to actually go through all of
[27:48.240 --> 27:56.760] the claims that we have against them just for these couple of hearings, because I've
[27:56.760 --> 28:01.080] got half a dozen claims against the judge for this one hearing.
[28:01.080 --> 28:10.000] We didn't even get to the issue of them taking your phone, not letting you record.
[28:10.000 --> 28:13.880] This is going to stack up on them.
[28:13.880 --> 28:18.360] You tell them about the phone issue.
[28:18.360 --> 28:30.480] In my first appearance, we made it, I'm going to say, 25 minutes to 30 minutes of a 40-minute
[28:30.480 --> 28:37.840] motion hearing on, you know, when we started the subject matter jurisdiction challenge.
[28:37.840 --> 28:43.720] And it took them that long before the bailiff, for whatever reason, I couldn't even tell
[28:43.720 --> 28:48.600] you what it was in that moment, because I never went for my phone, you know, I was sitting
[28:48.600 --> 28:54.200] in my breast pocket, I was engaged with the judge and the prosecutor, I never touched it,
[28:54.200 --> 28:57.040] I never checked it, I never looked down at it.
[28:57.040 --> 29:03.920] I knew in the back of my mind it was going, and, you know, I didn't give any tells on
[29:03.920 --> 29:04.920] it.
[29:04.920 --> 29:12.040] But for some reason, 30 minutes into that hearing, it's into that hearing of that motion,
[29:12.040 --> 29:19.680] he decided to walk up to me and ask me, an inquire about the status of my phone, is your
[29:19.680 --> 29:20.680] phone on?
[29:20.680 --> 29:21.680] No.
[29:21.680 --> 29:23.800] Well, is it recorded?
[29:23.800 --> 29:25.800] Yes.
[29:25.800 --> 29:32.600] And things really escalated quickly once that happened.
[29:32.600 --> 29:40.720] The judge became so irate, I mean, any more, and I think Steve would have started coming
[29:40.720 --> 29:47.120] out of his ears, and he was antsy in his chair, and you could just hear that.
[29:47.120 --> 29:50.720] Okay, okay, wait, wait, hang on, we're about to go to break, this is Randy Kelton, Deborah
[29:50.720 --> 29:59.120] Stevens, we'll have our radio, we'll put the judge in his chair when we get back.
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[33:37.160 --> 33:41.840] Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio, and we're talking to Jason in Texas,
[33:41.840 --> 33:44.600] and James is on the line, and we're going to get to James in a minute.
[33:44.600 --> 33:51.200] We're kind of following a progression up to James, and I'm doing something somewhat different
[33:51.200 --> 33:58.840] because I have the electronic lawyer project up and running.
[33:58.840 --> 34:05.200] I have the underlying software structure.
[34:05.200 --> 34:11.440] Right now I have a questionnaire that goes to first appearance.
[34:11.440 --> 34:19.400] You go on the website and you fill in information off the ticket, and the website will produce
[34:19.400 --> 34:24.720] a stack of documents that go to the initial hearing.
[34:24.720 --> 34:28.080] These are documents that should be filed in every case.
[34:28.080 --> 34:33.680] Okay, once you file these documents, then you go to that initial hearing.
[34:33.680 --> 34:39.520] There are things under law that should happen, and I have a questionnaire that says, well,
[34:39.520 --> 34:43.680] the first hearing, did this happen, did this happen, did this happen, and it walks through
[34:43.680 --> 34:50.280] all of the stuff that generally happens when you sign a ticket and agree to appear on or
[34:50.280 --> 34:53.600] before a certain date.
[34:53.600 --> 35:01.560] But if your ticket directed you to appear on a certain day at a certain time, that creates
[35:01.560 --> 35:02.560] a different situation.
[35:02.560 --> 35:09.440] So I have a second questionnaire for that one, and it's second because if you're ordered
[35:09.440 --> 35:15.040] to appear on a certain date and you do that, then you're going to be ordered to come back
[35:15.040 --> 35:18.840] on a day and time certain.
[35:18.840 --> 35:22.800] So the second one will come up in both cases.
[35:22.800 --> 35:28.000] If you've been given a day or time certain first, or if you've been given on a before
[35:28.000 --> 35:30.440] and then you'll get a day and time.
[35:30.440 --> 35:37.480] So now what we do, each time you come across an issue like this, like with Jason we're
[35:37.480 --> 35:44.080] talking about, one of the things we're referencing is recording, and in my questions I don't have
[35:44.080 --> 35:48.840] the issue of recording the hearing in the questionnaire.
[35:48.840 --> 35:54.080] So we're talking about it today, I'm making notes about it, and when we're done here I'll
[35:54.080 --> 36:01.560] go open my questionnaire and I will put a question in there, were you recording the
[36:01.560 --> 36:08.720] proceedings, or were you, did you intend to record the proceedings?
[36:08.720 --> 36:12.640] I'll work out how to ask this question so we get to recording the proceedings.
[36:12.640 --> 36:19.120] And if you say yes, then the system essentially veers off and addresses the issue of recording
[36:19.120 --> 36:23.560] the proceedings, then it comes back and keeps going.
[36:23.560 --> 36:31.560] And in the weeks and months ahead, we will have people with all sorts of issues that
[36:31.560 --> 36:37.000] we haven't heard of or thought of that happen, and every time we come across one we're going
[36:37.000 --> 36:41.360] to stick it in there, until we have everything.
[36:41.360 --> 36:47.760] And when we analyze, I'm being pedantic, I'm looking for every single complaint that
[36:47.760 --> 36:49.800] we can file.
[36:49.800 --> 36:55.840] I build that complaint one time and lay it into the system.
[36:55.840 --> 37:03.600] Every time the system points at it, it just spits out the complaint or spits out the pleading.
[37:03.600 --> 37:06.400] We only have to build it once and it's in there forever.
[37:06.400 --> 37:15.760] It won't take us long to give us a tool that every tiny little step the prosecutor judge
[37:15.760 --> 37:22.360] makes that's not exactly within the bounds of law, we hammer them for it.
[37:22.360 --> 37:27.000] Okay, Jason, you were putting the judge in his chair.
[37:27.000 --> 37:33.200] Oh, you could just hear his gears grinding, trying to figure out a way to hold me in contempt
[37:33.200 --> 37:35.960] of court in that moment.
[37:35.960 --> 37:47.400] But in that moment, he finally actually started the court recorder for that year.
[37:47.400 --> 37:57.040] He actually started making a record after it came to life that I was making a recording.
[37:57.040 --> 37:59.760] Now, I never lied to him.
[37:59.760 --> 38:02.880] I didn't misrepresent what I was doing.
[38:02.880 --> 38:09.760] I made it very clear to him that I have violated no laws that as a citizen, I am well within
[38:09.760 --> 38:14.480] my legal right to record my public servants at work.
[38:14.480 --> 38:21.440] We are in a public building in an open proceeding and at that time there were about a half dozen
[38:21.440 --> 38:31.280] either elected, appointed, or otherwise on the payroll of the taxpayer, all working diligently
[38:31.280 --> 38:37.640] as he tried to make it sound like that it would not be applicable in his corporate.
[38:37.640 --> 38:45.960] Now, they have a sign outside their door on a blue piece of paper with black, old type
[38:45.960 --> 38:52.520] writing, no electronic or recording devices allowed.
[38:52.520 --> 39:01.720] They seem to believe that because they have that note there that it carries with it the
[39:01.720 --> 39:07.320] legal obligation of us, the citizens, to abide by it.
[39:07.320 --> 39:15.400] So, when my hearing went on, when my name got called this morning and I was on, getting
[39:15.400 --> 39:20.680] out of the pew, the bailiff stopped me and asked for my phone.
[39:20.680 --> 39:24.400] And then I said, no, am I giving you my phone?
[39:24.400 --> 39:30.920] He says, well, I need your phone and I said, well, I don't care, I'm not giving it to you.
[39:30.920 --> 39:36.320] So then he yelled out for the judge, judge, I asked to see this gentleman's phone and
[39:36.320 --> 39:42.040] he's not giving it to me and this was the gentleman who was recording it his last appearance.
[39:42.040 --> 39:47.760] And the judge says, give your phone to the bailiff.
[39:47.760 --> 39:53.480] I said, judge, I have rights, this is an illegal seizure, this is not a weapon, it is not disrupting
[39:53.480 --> 39:56.720] or disturbing this proceeding in any manner.
[39:56.720 --> 40:03.840] I am not giving this phone to the bailiff.
[40:03.840 --> 40:07.520] He said, give him your phone.
[40:07.520 --> 40:10.960] Judge, is this not an illegal seizure?
[40:10.960 --> 40:15.640] Are you refusing to give your phone to the bailiff the judge comes back with?
[40:15.640 --> 40:20.240] I come back with no, I'm asking a question right now.
[40:20.240 --> 40:25.960] And then at the top of his voice in the most stern and intimidating manner he could muster
[40:25.960 --> 40:30.240] up, you give him that phone.
[40:30.240 --> 40:36.000] Okay, so I did.
[40:36.000 --> 40:40.160] I recognized that I was about at that envelope with this guy.
[40:40.160 --> 40:43.720] I probably should have pushed it a little bit further, but I didn't.
[40:43.720 --> 40:48.240] I'm going to say you pushed it plenty far.
[40:48.240 --> 40:53.680] You got him to step into the, step across the line, there's no need for anybody to go
[40:53.680 --> 40:54.680] to jail.
[40:54.680 --> 40:55.680] Yeah.
[40:55.680 --> 41:02.760] So I gave the phone to the bailiff and the bailiff fumbled around with it and the judge
[41:02.760 --> 41:08.720] wanted to know if it was off and the bailiff says, no, the judge says, well, is he recording?
[41:08.720 --> 41:11.400] The bailiff says, well, I can't tell.
[41:11.400 --> 41:15.080] And at this point we're walking up towards his throne.
[41:15.080 --> 41:22.760] And there was another, I guess, plain clothes officer, uh, over by where his judge's clerk
[41:22.760 --> 41:23.760] was sitting.
[41:23.760 --> 41:28.280] He took the phone from the bailiff, clicked on the home screen so that it would light
[41:28.280 --> 41:33.400] up and said, judge, the phone is on, but it is not recording.
[41:33.400 --> 41:36.400] And he handed it back to me.
[41:36.400 --> 41:47.240] So actually he didn't hand it back to me, they put it on the, the bar of his bench.
[41:47.240 --> 41:48.240] And there it sat.
[41:48.240 --> 41:54.120] And that couldn't have been in a better place because now it's right under the judge's
[41:54.120 --> 41:55.120] nose.
[41:55.120 --> 42:07.160] So, uh, and then, you know, the railroading truly got underway.
[42:07.160 --> 42:08.160] Okay.
[42:08.160 --> 42:14.600] So it appears as though the judge just completely ignored all facts and law and ruled the way
[42:14.600 --> 42:18.840] he intended to rule when you walked in the courtroom.
[42:18.840 --> 42:19.840] Absolutely.
[42:19.840 --> 42:20.840] Okay.
[42:20.840 --> 42:23.200] Now let's go to Jason.
[42:23.200 --> 42:24.200] Jason?
[42:24.200 --> 42:26.480] Where are we at, Jason?
[42:26.480 --> 42:27.480] Let's go to James.
[42:27.480 --> 42:28.480] Hello, James.
[42:28.480 --> 42:29.480] Hey, Mr. Cowden.
[42:29.480 --> 42:30.480] How are you?
[42:30.480 --> 42:31.480] I am good.
[42:31.480 --> 42:32.480] Okay.
[42:32.480 --> 42:43.080] You were at the first hearing Jason went to as a court watcher.
[42:43.080 --> 42:48.280] Kind of give us a synopsis of what occurred there.
[42:48.280 --> 42:55.480] Um, basically, um, I feel like Jason was railroaded.
[42:55.480 --> 42:56.480] Okay.
[42:56.480 --> 42:57.480] Hold on.
[42:57.480 --> 42:58.480] Hold on.
[42:58.480 --> 42:59.480] Hold on.
[42:59.480 --> 43:04.320] Give us a synopsis of what happened, not an, and not a legal analysis yet.
[43:04.320 --> 43:05.320] We'll get to that.
[43:05.320 --> 43:06.320] All righty.
[43:06.320 --> 43:11.400] And, uh, good evening, Jason, how are you tonight, sir?
[43:11.400 --> 43:12.400] Great.
[43:12.400 --> 43:13.400] Glad you're here.
[43:13.400 --> 43:18.240] Um, yes, sir, um, couldn't be any better to be with you two guys.
[43:18.240 --> 43:25.800] So, as it was, um, Jason immediately, um, tried to, uh, throw into the court that he
[43:25.800 --> 43:28.840] had a challenge of subject matter jurisdiction.
[43:28.840 --> 43:33.280] The judge overruled him, Jason tried to object again.
[43:33.280 --> 43:38.800] The judge got louder with him, overruled again, told Jason that was enough.
[43:38.800 --> 43:45.840] If he had any more from him, then he was going to, um, find him in contempt of court.
[43:45.840 --> 43:51.120] Sounds like your music playing, so it sounds like you have to take another break.
[43:51.120 --> 43:52.120] Okay.
[43:52.120 --> 43:53.680] That's exactly right.
[43:53.680 --> 43:59.320] We'll be, Randy Kelp, we'll be right back.
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[46:26.160 --> 46:27.160] Okay.
[46:27.160 --> 46:28.160] We are back.
[46:28.160 --> 46:33.080] Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, rule of law radio, and we're talking to Jason and James
[46:33.080 --> 46:34.080] in Texas.
[46:34.080 --> 46:35.080] Go ahead, James.
[46:35.080 --> 46:36.080] Okay.
[46:36.080 --> 46:46.440] So, anyway, as I was saying, Jason tried to stop the courts by having a challenge to
[46:46.440 --> 46:48.680] subject matter jurisdiction.
[46:48.680 --> 46:53.920] The judge was not having anything to do with it, and basically after a couple of objections
[46:53.920 --> 47:00.240] from Jason, he got very stern with Jason's old Jason and he would find him in contempt
[47:00.240 --> 47:01.240] of court.
[47:01.240 --> 47:09.160] So, we had another counterpart with us, another gentleman that actually helps out with things
[47:09.160 --> 47:15.840] down here in Texas that is a good friend of mine and Jason, and he was speaking up.
[47:15.840 --> 47:22.640] And the prosecutor at that time then tried to state that the gentleman in the gallery
[47:22.640 --> 47:30.160] had no right to give any kind of legal advice to Jason, Jason objected.
[47:30.160 --> 47:37.560] And we all know that they want you to believe that the attorneys, basically, are lawyers
[47:37.560 --> 47:44.360] or are immune to all of this and believe this, they're part of the Bar Association.
[47:44.360 --> 47:49.840] They're the only ones that can state or say anything about law.
[47:49.840 --> 47:56.440] So, I then spoke up and started residing some case law.
[47:56.440 --> 48:03.680] I was instantaneously then instructed from the judge, he told the bailiff to please escort
[48:03.680 --> 48:06.120] me out of the courtroom.
[48:06.120 --> 48:11.760] The gentleman came up, told me it was time to leave, I started gathering my belongings,
[48:11.760 --> 48:17.160] he said he was going to escort me out, grab the hold of my wheelchair, I'm handicapped,
[48:17.160 --> 48:21.880] and tried to start forcefully making me leave.
[48:21.880 --> 48:26.680] I was then escorted out of the courtroom where I willed myself out.
[48:26.680 --> 48:31.640] And then when I got out of the courtroom, I was placed under arrest for failure to identify
[48:31.640 --> 48:35.280] and for disruption of a meeting and procession.
[48:35.280 --> 48:42.840] That is all changed and Liberty County has now taken it upon themselves to try to offer
[48:42.840 --> 48:46.160] me a plea deal at my very first hearing.
[48:46.160 --> 48:53.800] They have no idea that our cases, I believe that mine and Jason's cases are even together.
[48:53.800 --> 48:59.800] So, it's going to kind of blow them out of the water once they find out that the cases
[48:59.800 --> 49:03.080] are connected to one another.
[49:03.080 --> 49:06.040] And so, right now it's...
[49:06.040 --> 49:13.960] Okay, hold on, hold on, you left out a really, really important set of details.
[49:13.960 --> 49:22.000] The officers filed verified affidavits when a police officer files a statement with the
[49:22.000 --> 49:25.480] court that is construed to be verified.
[49:25.480 --> 49:30.960] So, they filed verified affidavits, both of them.
[49:30.960 --> 49:41.520] They arrested James from the courthouse and instead of acting in accordance with 14.03
[49:41.520 --> 49:48.480] Texas criminal procedure and taking him directly to the nearest magistrate, they take him to
[49:48.480 --> 49:49.480] the jail.
[49:49.480 --> 49:59.280] They take him from the courthouse full of magistrates to the jail and hold him while
[49:59.280 --> 50:04.200] the officers get together and make up these affidavits.
[50:04.200 --> 50:12.240] Well, the affidavits are both in line with one another.
[50:12.240 --> 50:20.720] The problem is, is they amount to a huge whopper.
[50:20.720 --> 50:28.200] They assert and allege things, material facts that simply did not happen.
[50:28.200 --> 50:36.360] Their problem is, oh, I'm sorry, they also produced a body cam recording from one of
[50:36.360 --> 50:44.160] the officers and unfortunately, the portion of the interaction that occurred in the courtroom
[50:44.160 --> 50:46.800] is not there.
[50:46.800 --> 50:53.200] That just happens to be the part where the officers told what happened that was such
[50:53.200 --> 50:56.440] a big whopper.
[50:56.440 --> 51:05.360] The problem is, Jason's got a recording of what happened in the courtroom and what you
[51:05.360 --> 51:13.440] actually hear on the tape is not the same as what is in these affidavits.
[51:13.440 --> 51:17.480] Not by law, that's just correct.
[51:17.480 --> 51:29.080] So what we're doing is, is we're not giving away the fact that this recording is there.
[51:29.080 --> 51:35.520] What we've done is implied that there's something you guys don't know and should know because
[51:35.520 --> 51:39.840] I worked with James and we put together a document.
[51:39.840 --> 51:43.560] James, did you get that particular document filed?
[51:43.560 --> 51:48.280] Because what I gave you wasn't completed, I didn't get a chance to finish it, I sent
[51:48.280 --> 51:49.280] you what I had.
[51:49.280 --> 51:52.080] Did you finish it up and file it?
[51:52.080 --> 51:58.120] I am working on it, but I'm also working on the transcript of the video.
[51:58.120 --> 52:01.800] Hold on, James, hold on.
[52:01.800 --> 52:04.800] Did you file the document?
[52:04.800 --> 52:05.800] Not yet, sir.
[52:05.800 --> 52:06.800] Okay, okay, okay.
[52:06.800 --> 52:10.400] That's what I wanted to find out, so it's not in front of them yet?
[52:10.400 --> 52:11.400] No, sir.
[52:11.400 --> 52:12.400] Good.
[52:12.400 --> 52:22.680] So we're going to build a transcript and this document asks the court to dismiss this case
[52:22.680 --> 52:30.200] alleging that these officers produced this, these two affidavits, and in producing them
[52:30.200 --> 52:39.400] committed tampering with a government document, conspiracy to tamper with a government document,
[52:39.400 --> 52:48.280] aggravated perjury, and it alleges that we have incontrovertible proof that they committed
[52:48.280 --> 52:49.280] these acts.
[52:49.280 --> 52:57.200] Now, we didn't tell them what proof we've got, just that we got it, and being the nature
[52:57.200 --> 53:03.640] of being the defendant in a criminal case, you don't have to give the prosecutor everything.
[53:03.640 --> 53:07.680] Prosecutor has to give you everything, but you don't have to give him everything in return.
[53:07.680 --> 53:12.400] So we're going to give him opportunity to dismiss what they're not going to.
[53:12.400 --> 53:17.280] Point of that is aggravated perjury.
[53:17.280 --> 53:28.280] A defense, an affirmative defense to aggravated perjury is that you recanted the perjury statement
[53:28.280 --> 53:35.600] before it became apparent that the perjury statement would be revealed.
[53:35.600 --> 53:42.680] Once this document is filed, it makes it impossible for them to recant.
[53:42.680 --> 53:52.680] Now we have absolute incontrovertible evidence of aggravated perjury, conspiracy to commit,
[53:52.680 --> 54:00.720] facial oppression, we just got a whole stack of them, and we want to examine every step
[54:00.720 --> 54:02.220] of the procedure.
[54:02.220 --> 54:05.280] These are the really obvious ones.
[54:05.280 --> 54:12.760] We want to examine this much more closely so that we get every potential criminal accusation
[54:12.760 --> 54:13.920] we can stick in there.
[54:13.920 --> 54:21.840] We put that in front of a grand jury and say, in order to get James prosecuted, this is,
[54:21.840 --> 54:24.160] these are the crimes that committed.
[54:24.160 --> 54:31.480] Okay, James, now kind of tell us the rest of it.
[54:31.480 --> 54:38.920] Based upon everything you just said, which is correct, they cut off from what I have
[54:38.920 --> 54:45.200] gathered so far from the officer's body care, which was finally released to me the first
[54:45.200 --> 54:47.640] two minutes and 22 seconds.
[54:47.640 --> 54:54.240] So they tried to get it at the point of where the officer had already grabbed a hold of
[54:54.240 --> 55:01.000] my wheelchair and was going to escort me out, showing that I was getting on to the officer
[55:01.000 --> 55:11.640] so that they could try to have what they consider now their charge against me of hindering by
[55:11.640 --> 55:19.000] disorderly conduct, which in their documents, they're affidavits, they're sworn affidavits
[55:19.000 --> 55:20.000] together.
[55:20.000 --> 55:28.240] They both conspire that I was asked to be quiet, refused, asked to leave, refused, continued
[55:28.240 --> 55:35.440] to yell at the judge, yell profanities in the courtroom, and such forth.
[55:35.440 --> 55:39.400] And none of this happened whatsoever.
[55:39.400 --> 55:50.640] So I love the way that you have put together everything for my motion and to go at them
[55:50.640 --> 55:58.200] with the charges that you have brought together due to the fact that, yes, they have decided
[55:58.200 --> 56:07.640] to, in my opinion, tamper with evidence by taking the video of the body cam from the
[56:07.640 --> 56:14.360] officer and just starting it from a point where they decided was reasonable to their
[56:14.360 --> 56:16.240] cause.
[56:16.240 --> 56:26.080] So basically it does not prove anything in their affidavits because all of that is missing.
[56:26.080 --> 56:28.760] So the judge.
[56:28.760 --> 56:29.760] Okay.
[56:29.760 --> 56:38.720] What we plan to do with the narrative is we will state in the document verbatim what
[56:38.720 --> 56:41.040] was said in the courtroom.
[56:41.040 --> 56:49.920] We won't offer the recording, we'll offer a verbatim affidavit.
[56:49.920 --> 56:58.800] And then in order to rebut that, if the lawyer is consistent, he's going to want to challenge
[56:58.800 --> 57:04.440] the veracity of the affidavit.
[57:04.440 --> 57:13.720] And in rebuttal to him trying to challenge the veracity, then James gets to allege that
[57:13.720 --> 57:18.560] it is a verbatim transcript.
[57:18.560 --> 57:29.120] And by saying transcript, that establishes foundation for what is it a transcript of?
[57:29.120 --> 57:31.160] It's a transcript of the recording.
[57:31.160 --> 57:35.800] Now you have foundation to bring in the recording.
[57:35.800 --> 57:43.760] They don't find out about the recording until they've challenged the veracity of the transcript.
[57:43.760 --> 57:49.680] Now they're boxed in, they can't object to the recording because they will have opened
[57:49.680 --> 57:50.680] the door for it.
[57:50.680 --> 57:57.720] I've had this happen in court before and it was just absolutely glorious.
[57:57.720 --> 58:03.880] When the lawyer actually walked straight into the recording and then found out there was
[58:03.880 --> 58:09.280] one, he objected himself and the judge said, no counselor.
[58:09.280 --> 58:14.040] You open that door, Mr. Kelton gets to walk through it.
[58:14.040 --> 58:16.120] Hang on, going to break.
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[01:00:50.520 --> 01:00:53.680] Today in history.
[01:00:53.680 --> 01:00:57.000] In recent news, President Trump said from the diplomatic reception room of the White
[01:00:57.000 --> 01:01:01.040] House earlier today that the United States will formally recognize Jerusalem as the capital
[01:01:01.040 --> 01:01:05.360] of Israel, with announcing preparations to move the United States embassy from Tel Aviv
[01:01:05.360 --> 01:01:06.920] to the city of God.
[01:01:06.920 --> 01:01:10.640] Trump stated that, quote, today we finally acknowledge the obvious that Jerusalem is
[01:01:10.640 --> 01:01:11.920] Israel's capital.
[01:01:11.920 --> 01:01:15.080] This is nothing more or less than a recognition of reality.
[01:01:15.080 --> 01:01:18.880] It is also the right thing to do, something that has to be done.
[01:01:18.880 --> 01:01:23.040] Everyone from Pope Francis, the Chinese Foreign Minister, and European leaders have voiced
[01:01:23.040 --> 01:01:25.800] their concerns with this decision from President Trump.
[01:01:25.800 --> 01:01:29.920] Federica Morgani, high representative of the European Union foreign affairs and security
[01:01:29.920 --> 01:01:34.760] policy, made clear that Europe saw the President's decision as a threat to peace in the Middle
[01:01:34.760 --> 01:01:39.080] East, stating that, quote, we believe that any action that would undermine these efforts
[01:01:39.080 --> 01:01:40.560] must absolutely be avoided.
[01:01:40.560 --> 01:01:45.280] A way must be found through negotiations to resolve the status of Jerusalem as a future
[01:01:45.280 --> 01:01:47.000] capital of both states.
[01:01:47.000 --> 01:01:50.720] Former director of the CIA under the Obama administration, John O'Brennan, released a
[01:01:50.720 --> 01:01:54.920] statement saying that President Trump's words were reckless and would damage U.S. interest
[01:01:54.920 --> 01:01:59.240] in the Middle East for years to come would make the region more volatile.
[01:01:59.240 --> 01:02:03.120] It is yet unclear whether the President has any legitimate reason for making this statement,
[01:02:03.120 --> 01:02:12.560] other than an act to appeal to his evangelical and pro-Israel voting base.
[01:02:12.560 --> 01:02:16.760] Nearly 50 mayors from across the United States concluded a climate change summit in Chicago
[01:02:16.760 --> 01:02:21.880] today where a formal agreement to reduce greenhouse emissions in their cities was signed by the
[01:02:21.880 --> 01:02:22.880] attending mayors.
[01:02:22.880 --> 01:02:25.960] An act of defiance, considering the Trump administration's recent decision to back
[01:02:25.960 --> 01:02:30.560] the U.S. out of the Paris climate agreement, no surprise former President Barack Obama
[01:02:30.560 --> 01:02:34.320] was also attending and even spoke at the summit, telling attendees that they are America's
[01:02:34.320 --> 01:02:37.080] new front line leaders on climate change.
[01:02:37.080 --> 01:02:41.000] Mayors from cities in Mexico and Canada joined their U.S. counterparts in committing to
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[01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:46.760] Vancouver Mayor Gregor Robertson said in a statement that we stand shoulder to shoulder
[01:02:46.760 --> 01:02:53.760] with all of the U.S. cities and mayors that are committed to be Paris agreement.
[01:02:53.760 --> 01:03:22.760] This was Rick Brody with your lowdown for December 6, 2017.
[01:03:22.760 --> 01:03:30.840] Okay.
[01:03:30.840 --> 01:03:31.840] We are back.
[01:03:31.840 --> 01:03:36.360] Randy Kelton, Rural Law Radio, Randy Kelton Debra Stevens, Rural Law Radio, and we're
[01:03:36.360 --> 01:03:47.440] talking to Jason and James in Texas, and I'm hoping you're noticing that we're developing
[01:03:47.440 --> 01:03:49.160] a lot of different claims.
[01:03:49.160 --> 01:03:59.440] I'm taking notes here of claims and accusations I don't have in electronic lawyer as of yet.
[01:03:59.440 --> 01:04:02.920] One is the right to record.
[01:04:02.920 --> 01:04:11.600] Another is one I'm really going to enjoy working on is your right to counsel of choice.
[01:04:11.600 --> 01:04:17.400] You go into court and you want to bring someone other than a lawyer to represent you, and
[01:04:17.400 --> 01:04:25.840] they want to say, you cannot enjoy counsel of choice unless your choice of counsel is
[01:04:25.840 --> 01:04:30.160] a bar card carrying shyster.
[01:04:30.160 --> 01:04:37.240] Well, I read counsel of choice to mean my choice, not the judge's choice.
[01:04:37.240 --> 01:04:41.480] So that's an argument I would write up.
[01:04:41.480 --> 01:04:51.120] So you go in with a traffic ticket and you go to the first hearing and they wind up with
[01:04:51.120 --> 01:05:05.960] all of these highly sophisticated and focused arguments and briefs in a traffic case.
[01:05:05.960 --> 01:05:09.280] At the end of the day, it's all about the money.
[01:05:09.280 --> 01:05:16.560] It will cost them far more than they could collect just to have an attorney read all
[01:05:16.560 --> 01:05:19.960] these documents, much less respond to them.
[01:05:19.960 --> 01:05:24.640] So anyway, okay, let's go back to Jason and James.
[01:05:24.640 --> 01:05:30.240] James, where were we when we went out?
[01:05:30.240 --> 01:05:34.200] I believe we were talking about the transcript.
[01:05:34.200 --> 01:05:42.040] And as of this point, I have got the first three and a half minutes pretty well transcribed
[01:05:42.040 --> 01:05:50.720] and that is to the point of the start through the process of me being ejected, escorted,
[01:05:50.720 --> 01:05:53.320] out of the courtroom.
[01:05:53.320 --> 01:06:03.760] And nothing that the two officers conspired in their affidavits is in any part of the
[01:06:03.760 --> 01:06:14.280] transcript at all to make their affidavits true facts by legitimate law.
[01:06:14.280 --> 01:06:22.280] So that's where I'm at so far on the transcript and going to finish transcribing the rest
[01:06:22.280 --> 01:06:25.680] for Jason for his part.
[01:06:25.680 --> 01:06:32.280] And this demonstrates one of our rules, never give fair warning.
[01:06:32.280 --> 01:06:36.280] And never interfere with someone when they're screwing up.
[01:06:36.280 --> 01:06:46.240] So we let these guys rely on these recordings, I'm sorry, rely on their affidavits.
[01:06:46.240 --> 01:06:49.720] And then push them into a point to where they can't back out from them.
[01:06:49.720 --> 01:06:56.920] Once we have them good and trapped, then we bring in absolute incontrovertible proof,
[01:06:56.920 --> 01:07:03.120] which is the physical recordings, which we happen to have a couple of.
[01:07:03.120 --> 01:07:11.280] The very reason these judges do not want recordings in their courtroom is what's going to make
[01:07:11.280 --> 01:07:12.280] all this go away.
[01:07:12.280 --> 01:07:13.280] Go ahead, Jason.
[01:07:13.280 --> 01:07:15.800] They don't want the accountability.
[01:07:15.800 --> 01:07:21.800] And I don't know if this is pertinent or relevant, but I still compelled to mention it.
[01:07:21.800 --> 01:07:28.360] I was watching, James was kind enough to send me a copy of that body cam, and I watched
[01:07:28.360 --> 01:07:30.000] it through and through.
[01:07:30.000 --> 01:07:39.520] And one thing that really stuck out at me, at no time did they ever memorandize him.
[01:07:39.520 --> 01:07:41.520] Not necessarily relevant.
[01:07:41.520 --> 01:07:42.520] No.
[01:07:42.520 --> 01:07:55.800] Now, Miranda only goes to the police using testimony they secured absent Miranda warnings.
[01:07:55.800 --> 01:08:04.080] So if they don't intend to bring anything that James said into court, then there is
[01:08:04.080 --> 01:08:05.760] no Miranda issue.
[01:08:05.760 --> 01:08:17.560] I kind of explained that to Jason, because this has not been my first arrest, that the
[01:08:17.560 --> 01:08:24.840] last two times I have been arrested, that I was never read my Miranda rights.
[01:08:24.840 --> 01:08:31.720] But isn't it a procedural requirement when taking a citizen into custody?
[01:08:31.720 --> 01:08:33.840] No.
[01:08:33.840 --> 01:08:42.720] What the court said is if you don't advise someone of their rights, you cannot use any
[01:08:42.720 --> 01:08:47.120] testimony you secure.
[01:08:47.120 --> 01:08:53.440] So as long as they don't intend to use any testimony from you, then they don't have
[01:08:53.440 --> 01:08:55.760] to advise you.
[01:08:55.760 --> 01:08:58.640] It's not a statutory right.
[01:08:58.640 --> 01:09:06.160] So their testimony on their affidavits, they do not tend to use, it seems like if they
[01:09:06.160 --> 01:09:11.240] tend to use their affidavits, their sworn affidavits, that they would have had the Miranda
[01:09:11.240 --> 01:09:15.520] rights, were reading my Miranda rights at some point.
[01:09:15.520 --> 01:09:16.520] No.
[01:09:16.520 --> 01:09:17.520] No.
[01:09:17.520 --> 01:09:21.560] They would have to, if they were the accused, they would have to be memorandized before
[01:09:21.560 --> 01:09:26.160] their testimony could be used, but they're not the accused.
[01:09:26.160 --> 01:09:32.120] So they don't need to be memorandized because essentially they're not the ones charged,
[01:09:32.120 --> 01:09:37.320] so what they're saying can't be held used against them.
[01:09:37.320 --> 01:09:44.280] You need to have a warning that when they ask you questions, you have a right to remain
[01:09:44.280 --> 01:09:48.280] silent, and this is what Miranda goes to.
[01:09:48.280 --> 01:09:54.600] The courts will say, you had a right to remain silent, and we need to make sure that you
[01:09:54.600 --> 01:10:00.760] fully understood that right because the police were arresting people and making all kind
[01:10:00.760 --> 01:10:05.880] of threats of horrible stuff they were going to do to them if they didn't talk.
[01:10:05.880 --> 01:10:11.880] And in order to prevent that kind of behavior, they forced the police to let the person know
[01:10:11.880 --> 01:10:15.080] you have a right to remain silent.
[01:10:15.080 --> 01:10:27.120] That is not a statutory requirement, that is a court-created remedy to ensure that the
[01:10:27.120 --> 01:10:28.120] right was protected.
[01:10:28.120 --> 01:10:29.120] Does that make sense?
[01:10:29.120 --> 01:10:36.000] I mean, it does, and I'm trying to apply it to this particular condition.
[01:10:36.000 --> 01:10:47.400] I mean, at what point of the body cam recordings, from the time they take him into custody,
[01:10:47.400 --> 01:10:53.520] you're saying that since none of the, they're not using anything that he said after they
[01:10:53.520 --> 01:10:59.200] took him into custody, they said therefore they didn't have to advise him.
[01:10:59.200 --> 01:11:00.200] Exactly.
[01:11:00.200 --> 01:11:09.560] And all advice, all the failure to give the Miranda warnings would do was prevent them
[01:11:09.560 --> 01:11:11.880] from using any evidence they gathered against him.
[01:11:11.880 --> 01:11:16.880] If they're not using anything they gathered against him out of his own mouth, then it's
[01:11:16.880 --> 01:11:17.880] irrelevant.
[01:11:17.880 --> 01:11:26.840] And I have a feeling due to the fact that in officer the, I'm not going to say his name,
[01:11:26.840 --> 01:11:33.400] I won't state that, but in the arresting officer's narrative, not in his sworn affidavit, he
[01:11:33.400 --> 01:11:40.560] did not write this, but in one sentence in his narrative, he wrote that he was advised
[01:11:40.560 --> 01:11:48.320] from the other officer that was the accusing officer on Jason's citation.
[01:11:48.320 --> 01:11:55.840] He was advised that there was a sovereign citizen going to be on location during the
[01:11:55.840 --> 01:12:05.600] court proceedings, but that was not wrote in his sworn affidavit, only in his narrative.
[01:12:05.600 --> 01:12:13.120] So he had already penmarked me as a sovereign citizen on location due to the fact that the
[01:12:13.120 --> 01:12:21.360] prosecutor, which I had already beat a citation in this city, and that's why Jason engulfed
[01:12:21.360 --> 01:12:30.920] me as a friend, and I provided him with the information from you, Mr. Kelton, and Eddie
[01:12:30.920 --> 01:12:41.480] Craig, and gave him the information on where to learn the law of the Texas Transportation
[01:12:41.480 --> 01:12:46.680] Code pertaining to speeding and such forth.
[01:12:46.680 --> 01:12:56.880] So by me already beating my case a month prior, they had me penmarked already as a sovereign
[01:12:56.880 --> 01:13:00.760] citizen that was going to be on location, so.
[01:13:00.760 --> 01:13:01.760] Okay.
[01:13:01.760 --> 01:13:02.760] Okay.
[01:13:02.760 --> 01:13:03.760] Objection.
[01:13:03.760 --> 01:13:04.760] Relevance.
[01:13:04.760 --> 01:13:05.760] Right.
[01:13:05.760 --> 01:13:22.280] So my point is, okay, hold on, hold on, James, yes, that's insulting and obnoxious, but so
[01:13:22.280 --> 01:13:23.280] what?
[01:13:23.280 --> 01:13:24.280] Right.
[01:13:24.280 --> 01:13:35.740] And so what I tend to suggest to people is officers will often do things that are insult
[01:13:35.740 --> 01:13:46.320] insulting or obnoxious or are clearly intended to incite personal passions.
[01:13:46.320 --> 01:13:53.480] But as it goes to the adjudication case or irrelevant, you were more polite in that you
[01:13:53.480 --> 01:14:03.480] did not notice, Jason, that there would be jackbooty thugs in the courtroom.
[01:14:03.480 --> 01:14:14.480] So jackboots, sovereign citizens, let them make all those assertions they want to.
[01:14:14.480 --> 01:14:21.640] From Scott, I've got a new one for lawyers and they're all scoff laws.
[01:14:21.640 --> 01:14:27.440] We have, Jason had a lawyer call him a scoff law.
[01:14:27.440 --> 01:14:30.480] If we put in a response, I feel insulted.
[01:14:30.480 --> 01:14:34.680] Actually, I think we put, I feel disparaged.
[01:14:34.680 --> 01:14:44.680] It kind of makes sense why our other counterpart, whose name is James as well, when he said
[01:14:44.680 --> 01:14:55.400] on what grounds, four different occasions, and stood up, the court never, the judge
[01:14:55.400 --> 01:14:58.360] never wants asked him to be quiet.
[01:14:58.360 --> 01:15:04.320] The prosecutor just said that he had no right to be given legal advice.
[01:15:04.320 --> 01:15:10.360] That's when, as soon as I said, I have an objection to that and cited a few case laws,
[01:15:10.360 --> 01:15:16.840] the judge immediately said, officer, would you escort this gentleman out of the courtroom?
[01:15:16.840 --> 01:15:26.520] So by that alone, there are affidavits of stating that I was asked to be quiet and refused,
[01:15:26.520 --> 01:15:33.120] asked to leave and refused, kept yelling at the judge, yelling profanities.
[01:15:33.120 --> 01:15:39.200] All of that on their sworn affidavits are totally fictitious.
[01:15:39.200 --> 01:15:45.360] Perjury, as you stated, aggravated perjury in conspiring with one another to have the
[01:15:45.360 --> 01:15:48.880] same basic affidavits that...
[01:15:48.880 --> 01:15:57.800] Okay, that's exactly where I'm going to conspiracy, because both of the affidavits are essentially
[01:15:57.800 --> 01:15:58.800] the same.
[01:15:58.800 --> 01:16:05.560] They both accuse you of yelling in the courtroom and shouting profanities, and that's clearly
[01:16:05.560 --> 01:16:07.160] not the case.
[01:16:07.160 --> 01:16:12.080] And what we want to look to do here, and we're about to go to break here, so we'll pick it
[01:16:12.080 --> 01:16:18.120] up after the break, but what we want to look to do is kind of a new strategy.
[01:16:18.120 --> 01:16:26.640] This is, we petition for a declaratory judgment in the district court under the Declaratory
[01:16:26.640 --> 01:16:27.640] Judgments Act.
[01:16:27.640 --> 01:16:33.320] It costs you about $250 to $300 to file a civil suit in the district court.
[01:16:33.320 --> 01:16:37.600] Declaratory judgment in Texas only costs $15.
[01:16:37.600 --> 01:16:42.920] Then you bring all of these guys in the district court, and you ask for a declaratory judgment.
[01:16:42.920 --> 01:16:48.480] Or explain what that is on the other side and how we expect to use it against these
[01:16:48.480 --> 01:16:49.480] guys.
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[01:19:48.680 --> 01:19:53.280] Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio, and we're talking to Jason and James
[01:19:53.280 --> 01:19:56.160] in Texas.
[01:19:56.160 --> 01:20:00.640] We're honing this down.
[01:20:00.640 --> 01:20:08.640] From these conversations, I'm going to develop four or five different arguments that, well,
[01:20:08.640 --> 01:20:13.320] I will add to the electronic lawyer.
[01:20:13.320 --> 01:20:20.120] And if we seem like we're going into pedantic detail, that's the reason we want to be pedantic.
[01:20:20.120 --> 01:20:22.400] We want to be detailed.
[01:20:22.400 --> 01:20:29.440] We want to take these guys apart on every minor little move that they took.
[01:20:29.440 --> 01:20:40.720] We haven't talked about James being arrested and all of the infractions we'll bring in
[01:20:40.720 --> 01:20:44.920] from his arrest.
[01:20:44.920 --> 01:20:55.880] The tool is very, very important now because I have a habeas corpus that I wrote over 10
[01:20:55.880 --> 01:21:02.080] years, nearly 10 years ago, I guess, I'm sorry, seven or eight years ago, I suppose, for a
[01:21:02.080 --> 01:21:06.840] kid in Montgomery County.
[01:21:06.840 --> 01:21:14.680] And we talked about this on the air for quite a number of times.
[01:21:14.680 --> 01:21:21.840] But the habeas corpus I wrote a number of years ago, I'm going to get to incorporate
[01:21:21.840 --> 01:21:27.840] that entire argument into these issues that we're bringing.
[01:21:27.840 --> 01:21:33.480] All of the work that I've done over the years, I get to pull out all of those arguments and
[01:21:33.480 --> 01:21:43.840] analyses that I've done and drop them into this engine so that every time they're implicated
[01:21:43.840 --> 01:21:48.160] the system pulls them out.
[01:21:48.160 --> 01:21:51.000] You guys listen to me all the time on these shows and we're talking about all these things
[01:21:51.000 --> 01:22:01.000] we have done over the years and in a lot of cases, I had more arguments I could have brought
[01:22:01.000 --> 01:22:09.920] if I had to remember them, you know, something happens and an issue stands out before you.
[01:22:09.920 --> 01:22:15.880] So you tend to latch on to that issue and go after it.
[01:22:15.880 --> 01:22:24.240] But there could be a whole lot of other issues there that your focus on the one primary issue
[01:22:24.240 --> 01:22:26.920] causes you to miss.
[01:22:26.920 --> 01:22:36.840] And in traffic, the special situation is that I have a guy in Tennessee that's in jail fighting
[01:22:36.840 --> 01:22:41.040] these issues and he's fighting the right to travel.
[01:22:41.040 --> 01:22:45.520] And in doing the research, I looked at the right to travel and I said, wait a minute,
[01:22:45.520 --> 01:22:51.520] wait a minute, that's a viable argument, but it's the wrong place to start.
[01:22:51.520 --> 01:22:53.960] We don't get there yet.
[01:22:53.960 --> 01:23:01.520] And we've been making the right to travel and we never said how do we get to commerce.
[01:23:01.520 --> 01:23:04.760] We say we're not in commerce.
[01:23:04.760 --> 01:23:09.320] So how do we get to the right to travel?
[01:23:09.320 --> 01:23:13.800] How do we get past the citation?
[01:23:13.800 --> 01:23:18.840] Not alleging commerce, which would be necessary to bring you within the statutory scheme.
[01:23:18.840 --> 01:23:22.640] It's nobody ever thought of it.
[01:23:22.640 --> 01:23:27.480] And then every once in a while it comes to mind and then you go on to other issues and
[01:23:27.480 --> 01:23:29.800] you forget about it.
[01:23:29.800 --> 01:23:37.360] Now when they come to mind, we go lay it into the engine and the engine never misses it.
[01:23:37.360 --> 01:23:43.120] We build the argument for it one time, lay that into the system and the system never
[01:23:43.120 --> 01:23:49.440] forgets it, never misses it, brings it up every time.
[01:23:49.440 --> 01:23:51.480] Think about it.
[01:23:51.480 --> 01:23:57.680] You get a traffic ticket and you don't know squat about law.
[01:23:57.680 --> 01:24:04.720] You go into this questionnaire and you don't need to know squat about law, it does.
[01:24:04.720 --> 01:24:11.080] As it's beginning to come together, the profound implications of it just keeps growing.
[01:24:11.080 --> 01:24:14.880] If I sound like I'm excited about this, it's because I am.
[01:24:14.880 --> 01:24:19.240] You sound like a kid on Christmas morning when you talk about it.
[01:24:19.240 --> 01:24:20.240] Oh, yes.
[01:24:20.240 --> 01:24:23.880] I was thinking the same thing.
[01:24:23.880 --> 01:24:27.480] I've got my little toy.
[01:24:27.480 --> 01:24:33.520] This is 10 years, 10 years of, you know, if you've been listening to my show this long,
[01:24:33.520 --> 01:24:41.080] you've heard me talk about bits and pieces of it where I had an idea of where we wanted
[01:24:41.080 --> 01:24:47.920] to go with this and for 10 years we've been putting together how to get there and anyone
[01:24:47.920 --> 01:24:53.280] who's ever done any engineering will understand how this works or anyone who's ever taken
[01:24:53.280 --> 01:24:57.920] their car apart and had it spread all over the garage and the wife come out there and
[01:24:57.920 --> 01:25:02.160] look at all this junk and say, what in the heck is this mess?
[01:25:02.160 --> 01:25:07.680] Well, you can't even explain all of it to her because you've got all these pieces sitting
[01:25:07.680 --> 01:25:14.160] around out here and it won't make any sense to her until you start stitching all these
[01:25:14.160 --> 01:25:22.560] pieces together and we've been 10 years building these pieces.
[01:25:22.560 --> 01:25:26.600] And finally I was able to sit down with a programmer.
[01:25:26.600 --> 01:25:33.520] I've tried to get this programmed in before but I didn't have it designed well enough.
[01:25:33.520 --> 01:25:39.160] What I tried to do didn't work and had to back up and redesign and redesign and we finally
[01:25:39.160 --> 01:25:49.520] got all the pieces in place and I got a programmer out of Moscow and he did an excellent job.
[01:25:49.520 --> 01:25:54.240] If it gave me a better product than I expected.
[01:25:54.240 --> 01:25:59.440] So now I have a tool where I can build a questionnaire.
[01:25:59.440 --> 01:26:05.800] Take that questionnaire and feed it into the system and it's in the form of a mind map
[01:26:05.800 --> 01:26:12.200] and I just feed that into the system and it turns it into the output product.
[01:26:12.200 --> 01:26:17.920] It builds my database and I've been talking for a long time that I wanted a database that
[01:26:17.920 --> 01:26:22.400] built itself and we've got one.
[01:26:22.400 --> 01:26:23.840] I don't have to build a database.
[01:26:23.840 --> 01:26:28.680] I build a questionnaire, feed that in the system and the system creates the database
[01:26:28.680 --> 01:26:31.640] to match the questionnaire.
[01:26:31.640 --> 01:26:37.840] So if I change the questionnaire I can feed it back into the system and it rewrites the
[01:26:37.840 --> 01:26:40.120] database to match it.
[01:26:40.120 --> 01:26:48.640] So one of the big problems is this will get extremely large and maintaining the database
[01:26:48.640 --> 01:26:55.600] on something this large is going to become prohibitively cumbersome.
[01:26:55.600 --> 01:27:00.280] But we finally got it so that the database creates itself and there's a couple other
[01:27:00.280 --> 01:27:08.960] pieces we need to add to it and one of them is a folder structure so that everywhere it
[01:27:08.960 --> 01:27:15.360] creates a table in the database, it creates a folder on a folder structure that's linked
[01:27:15.360 --> 01:27:24.800] to that table in the database so that when I come up with case law on a given point,
[01:27:24.800 --> 01:27:26.800] I drop it in that folder.
[01:27:26.800 --> 01:27:33.360] Now just saying it that way doesn't do it justice.
[01:27:33.360 --> 01:27:40.600] This was an idea that kind of drifted across this process as I was building it.
[01:27:40.600 --> 01:27:45.160] And it wasn't until several years after I come up with the idea that it really occurred
[01:27:45.160 --> 01:27:48.560] to me how profound that is.
[01:27:48.560 --> 01:27:53.440] Anybody out there who's done legal research, you understand, the most difficult part about
[01:27:53.440 --> 01:27:57.200] legal research is finding that first case on point.
[01:27:57.200 --> 01:28:02.880] I had one lawyer tell me that he's read as many as 100 cases trying to find the first
[01:28:02.880 --> 01:28:04.760] case on point.
[01:28:04.760 --> 01:28:09.720] Well, we have all the points.
[01:28:09.720 --> 01:28:13.480] We don't just have them, we have them mapped.
[01:28:13.480 --> 01:28:20.560] So now when I do research and I come across a great case, I go to the point that case
[01:28:20.560 --> 01:28:25.040] is on even if it's not on point to what I'm doing.
[01:28:25.040 --> 01:28:28.400] You know, we all, we read these cases and say, man, that's a great case.
[01:28:28.400 --> 01:28:30.320] It just doesn't go to what I'm doing.
[01:28:30.320 --> 01:28:36.360] Well, I just go through the map, find the point it goes to, drop it in the folder.
[01:28:36.360 --> 01:28:43.760] Next time I need that case on point, I go to the point rather than go to Lexis or West
[01:28:43.760 --> 01:28:48.320] Law and try to dig through hundreds of thousands of cases to find it.
[01:28:48.320 --> 01:28:50.120] I've already got a place to put it.
[01:28:50.120 --> 01:28:53.440] This is Lexis on steroids.
[01:28:53.440 --> 01:29:02.360] This will change the way law is done everywhere and one of the most remarkable things when
[01:29:02.360 --> 01:29:09.720] I look at it is that this could have been done 40 years ago.
[01:29:09.720 --> 01:29:14.440] There's no high level of technology here.
[01:29:14.440 --> 01:29:19.320] There's no artificial intelligence.
[01:29:19.320 --> 01:29:24.320] We could have done this when we were using vacuum tube computers back in the 60s.
[01:29:24.320 --> 01:29:31.880] They didn't figure it out and then it took this show and you guys throwing this stuff
[01:29:31.880 --> 01:29:36.720] at me constantly for 10 years or I'd have never been able to figure this out and this
[01:29:36.720 --> 01:29:41.960] is a testament to everybody that calls into this show and I thank all of you for your
[01:29:41.960 --> 01:29:44.320] constant input.
[01:29:44.320 --> 01:29:48.040] You've helped to create something that I believe will change everything.
[01:29:48.040 --> 01:29:51.520] And I'm going to quit preaching when we come back on the other side.
[01:29:51.520 --> 01:29:54.240] Ready to count on rule of law radio?
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[01:33:34.240 --> 01:33:38.240] Randy Kelsen with RealVlog Radio, and we're talking to Jason and James.
[01:33:38.240 --> 01:33:41.920] Okay, do you guys have anything you want to add?
[01:33:41.920 --> 01:33:47.600] Is there something you wanted to address that I have missed?
[01:33:47.600 --> 01:33:51.280] I kind of had a question, I guess, on your tool.
[01:33:51.280 --> 01:34:00.880] I mean, I'm very impressed with the information that I received from when I did my input before
[01:34:00.880 --> 01:34:07.400] you even had everything together like you have now, and I was impressed with what it
[01:34:07.400 --> 01:34:09.840] produced for a traffic citation.
[01:34:09.840 --> 01:34:22.480] Now, my question, I guess, I have, is that what your new database tool is equipped only
[01:34:22.480 --> 01:34:31.360] for traffic citations, or is- Oh, no, no, I have a concern.
[01:34:31.360 --> 01:34:41.280] This is so profoundly different that when I present this to a lawyer, they tend to get
[01:34:41.280 --> 01:34:52.880] this holy mackerel's response, I got to have that problem, small fish, big pond.
[01:34:52.880 --> 01:35:01.240] When you come up with something really profoundly different, and that is a dramatic step forward,
[01:35:01.240 --> 01:35:06.600] there are big fish out there that see that they're going to come and try to swallow me.
[01:35:06.600 --> 01:35:11.360] So how do I get this developed?
[01:35:11.360 --> 01:35:17.240] I've got the basic tool, but it's in beta version.
[01:35:17.240 --> 01:35:24.040] You know, I'm an engineer, I'm a designer, and I know that your first design is not going
[01:35:24.040 --> 01:35:26.040] to be your last design.
[01:35:26.040 --> 01:35:31.400] I built a sweeper to sweep out the insides of refrigerated trailers.
[01:35:31.400 --> 01:35:38.760] The first prototype I built cost me about $60,000.
[01:35:38.760 --> 01:35:44.400] I got it all built, fired it up, ran it about 30 minutes, and told the guy where I was working
[01:35:44.400 --> 01:35:50.760] with it at that, okay, you can cut it up now.
[01:35:50.760 --> 01:35:52.440] And he was aghast.
[01:35:52.440 --> 01:35:54.680] He saw all the work I put into this thing.
[01:35:54.680 --> 01:35:58.600] He said, you run it 30 minutes, you want to cut it up?
[01:35:58.600 --> 01:36:03.680] I said, yeah, it was essentially a proof of concept.
[01:36:03.680 --> 01:36:12.720] Yes, it swept the way I expected to, and it didn't dust up because if you drop a bag
[01:36:12.720 --> 01:36:18.400] of flour and run over that flour with this tool, you don't want it spreading flour all
[01:36:18.400 --> 01:36:21.680] over the trailer and choking the driver on the fork left.
[01:36:21.680 --> 01:36:26.520] So it didn't, it dust up, my brushes were big enough and turned slow enough, I didn't
[01:36:26.520 --> 01:36:28.640] get dust.
[01:36:28.640 --> 01:36:32.800] The hydraulic motor was big enough so that when I put pressure on the brush, it didn't
[01:36:32.800 --> 01:36:34.400] slow down.
[01:36:34.400 --> 01:36:42.360] The hydraulic reservoir was large enough so that the hydraulics didn't overheat.
[01:36:42.360 --> 01:36:44.200] Told me all this stuff I need.
[01:36:44.200 --> 01:36:51.600] The hydraulic motor was big enough, the hydraulic pump was large enough to handle the motor.
[01:36:51.600 --> 01:36:55.640] Told me everything I need, but this design was not going to work at the end of the day.
[01:36:55.640 --> 01:37:00.040] It had other problems with it, so we tossed it, and I had no problem with tossing it.
[01:37:00.040 --> 01:37:05.800] And doing it again, this is not a final product, not by any measure.
[01:37:05.800 --> 01:37:14.000] So I need a platform to where I can crank the engine up and run it and see how it works
[01:37:14.000 --> 01:37:16.240] in the real world.
[01:37:16.240 --> 01:37:22.480] Traffic is a very small section of the legal system.
[01:37:22.480 --> 01:37:31.000] One of the smallest sections is not complex in any great degree at all.
[01:37:31.000 --> 01:37:42.720] But in Texas last year, there were 8.4 million criminal cases filed, 6.6 million of those
[01:37:42.720 --> 01:37:45.960] were traffic.
[01:37:45.960 --> 01:37:50.080] Lot of exposure, focused area.
[01:37:50.080 --> 01:37:56.880] And I get, I focus on a clientele that doesn't know anything about law.
[01:37:56.880 --> 01:38:02.360] So every mistake that can be made, they're going to make it.
[01:38:02.360 --> 01:38:08.720] So that I can work in the system methods of handling all these different areas.
[01:38:08.720 --> 01:38:14.000] Every issue that can be forgotten will be forgotten.
[01:38:14.000 --> 01:38:22.000] So, as I start programming these pieces in, I will be able to look at the system I'm
[01:38:22.000 --> 01:38:29.640] programming them into to see if everything is working the way that we thought it would
[01:38:29.640 --> 01:38:31.200] when we drew it out on the drawing board.
[01:38:31.200 --> 01:38:33.640] Is that making sense, James?
[01:38:33.640 --> 01:38:34.640] Yes.
[01:38:34.640 --> 01:38:46.400] So, yes, it is a working system, but no, it is not by any means restricted to traffic.
[01:38:46.400 --> 01:38:51.120] Traffic is merely my working model.
[01:38:51.120 --> 01:39:00.280] Even right now, back at the beginning of my first appearance, I have a first appearance
[01:39:00.280 --> 01:39:01.280] questionnaire.
[01:39:01.280 --> 01:39:09.000] I looked at the first appearance questionnaire and I backed up one step and said, when you
[01:39:09.000 --> 01:39:17.640] received the citation, were you released on a signed promise to appear?
[01:39:17.640 --> 01:39:25.600] If they say yes, then I asked, did the citation state a time and place to appear?
[01:39:25.600 --> 01:39:29.600] The way it is right now, the first question is, did the citation state a time and place
[01:39:29.600 --> 01:39:30.600] to appear?
[01:39:30.600 --> 01:39:33.680] The problem is it presumes something.
[01:39:33.680 --> 01:39:38.160] It presumes that you were written a ticket and weren't arrested.
[01:39:38.160 --> 01:39:41.040] So I looked at it and said, why missed that spot?
[01:39:41.040 --> 01:39:43.720] So I backed up one.
[01:39:43.720 --> 01:39:44.720] Were you released?
[01:39:44.720 --> 01:39:49.560] If they say no, then I go to a whole different set.
[01:39:49.560 --> 01:39:59.200] If you said no and you were arrested, now I go to booking and that citation or examining
[01:39:59.200 --> 01:40:00.200] trial.
[01:40:00.200 --> 01:40:06.200] There are two large questionnaires, one for each of those, and the system will branch
[01:40:06.200 --> 01:40:12.040] out to go to one of those other questionnaires if you answer the question that way.
[01:40:12.040 --> 01:40:22.840] And as a proof of concept tool, this will demonstrate how this tool will literally create a neural
[01:40:22.840 --> 01:40:25.520] net.
[01:40:25.520 --> 01:40:33.200] We understand things, we learn by generating referential index.
[01:40:33.200 --> 01:40:41.160] We create contextual references and then we build internal links to those contextual references
[01:40:41.160 --> 01:40:43.640] like anger.
[01:40:43.640 --> 01:40:46.760] Anger is a contextual reference.
[01:40:46.760 --> 01:40:51.720] It's a style of acting and reacting.
[01:40:51.720 --> 01:40:59.840] When you experience a certain set of facts, those facts point to this response set.
[01:40:59.840 --> 01:41:03.360] The brain goes to that response set and opens it up.
[01:41:03.360 --> 01:41:09.840] And then it looks inside this response set for things that it can do that are appropriate.
[01:41:09.840 --> 01:41:14.920] And within that context, it has subcontext.
[01:41:14.920 --> 01:41:21.240] There's different ways of being angry, different types of things to be angry about.
[01:41:21.240 --> 01:41:28.280] When you walk down through the context, it's defined the response set that fits the situation.
[01:41:28.280 --> 01:41:30.280] That makes sense, Jason?
[01:41:30.280 --> 01:41:31.280] Absolutely.
[01:41:31.280 --> 01:41:36.160] To me, I'm just excited about it because I really feel like it'll help you level the
[01:41:36.160 --> 01:41:42.600] playing field for us citizens who don't do this every day.
[01:41:42.600 --> 01:41:48.760] Like you said earlier, if you've ever researched any of this stuff and I have not researched
[01:41:48.760 --> 01:41:53.000] nearly as much of it as you have, there's the information overload.
[01:41:53.000 --> 01:41:58.080] You find a lot of good stuff, but it may or may not be relevant or it'll be relevant
[01:41:58.080 --> 01:41:59.760] next time.
[01:41:59.760 --> 01:42:05.600] And I just think it's difficult for people with every realize who get up and go to work
[01:42:05.600 --> 01:42:06.600] every day.
[01:42:06.600 --> 01:42:10.240] That's just a tough ask of any university.
[01:42:10.240 --> 01:42:13.960] That is dead on a main point.
[01:42:13.960 --> 01:42:22.200] You walk into the legal library and you see reams and reams and reams of books, all these
[01:42:22.200 --> 01:42:28.200] different law books and all these different issues, and it is overwhelming.
[01:42:28.200 --> 01:42:36.800] What this tool is designed to do is draw a bright line down through all of those books
[01:42:36.800 --> 01:42:44.520] so that the line only goes to that information you need to pay attention to and ignores all
[01:42:44.520 --> 01:42:48.640] the rest of that garbage until it's needed.
[01:42:48.640 --> 01:42:51.160] And that's what this tool will do.
[01:42:51.160 --> 01:42:59.640] And exactly what you said, Jason, is you won't wind up with information overload.
[01:42:59.640 --> 01:43:02.440] Lawyers do this all the time.
[01:43:02.440 --> 01:43:04.200] They're always afraid.
[01:43:04.200 --> 01:43:11.280] I do research and no matter how much I research a subject, when I'm done, I know that that
[01:43:11.280 --> 01:43:17.600] lawyer on the other side is going to find something I missed, come into court and wipe
[01:43:17.600 --> 01:43:20.520] the floor with me.
[01:43:20.520 --> 01:43:25.560] And most every lawyer will tell you the same thing to have that same worry.
[01:43:25.560 --> 01:43:30.920] This tool, it will eliminate that worry.
[01:43:30.920 --> 01:43:40.200] If the lawyer comes in with an issue that is not in the tool, it is so obscure that
[01:43:40.200 --> 01:43:43.600] a reasonable lawyer couldn't expect to find it.
[01:43:43.600 --> 01:43:49.720] And if he does come in with that, tomorrow that's going to be in there.
[01:43:49.720 --> 01:43:51.280] That's not going to happen again.
[01:43:51.280 --> 01:44:08.840] Hang on, go into break, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Wheel of Law Radio, we'll be right
[01:44:08.840 --> 01:44:09.840] back.
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[01:46:00.880 --> 01:46:23.880] Music playing
[01:46:23.880 --> 01:46:27.880] Something in this world I will never understand
[01:46:27.880 --> 01:46:31.880] Something I realize fully
[01:46:31.880 --> 01:46:34.880] Somebody don't apologize
[01:46:34.880 --> 01:46:36.880] Okay, we are back.
[01:46:36.880 --> 01:46:38.880] Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio,
[01:46:38.880 --> 01:46:44.880] and I suppose I owe everyone an apology.
[01:46:44.880 --> 01:46:48.880] I've been using you.
[01:46:48.880 --> 01:46:52.880] I have this tool that I've been working on a long time,
[01:46:52.880 --> 01:46:57.880] and it is somewhat complex.
[01:46:57.880 --> 01:47:00.880] And I have been using my listeners
[01:47:00.880 --> 01:47:05.880] to help me develop a way of talking about this
[01:47:05.880 --> 01:47:08.880] so it makes sense.
[01:47:08.880 --> 01:47:10.880] You think about stuff in your mind
[01:47:10.880 --> 01:47:12.880] and all of it sounds great and wonderful
[01:47:12.880 --> 01:47:14.880] until you open your mouth
[01:47:14.880 --> 01:47:16.880] and push that sound out your mouth
[01:47:16.880 --> 01:47:18.880] and then it comes back in your ears
[01:47:18.880 --> 01:47:20.880] and sometimes what you're hearing
[01:47:20.880 --> 01:47:24.880] doesn't sound anything like what you're thinking.
[01:47:24.880 --> 01:47:29.880] And I thank you all for giving me this opportunity.
[01:47:29.880 --> 01:47:32.880] This tool would not have happened
[01:47:32.880 --> 01:47:36.880] but for the listeners to this show
[01:47:36.880 --> 01:47:39.880] and especially the callers to the end of the show.
[01:47:39.880 --> 01:47:42.880] Guys like James and Jason,
[01:47:42.880 --> 01:47:46.880] you keep asking me these questions
[01:47:46.880 --> 01:47:49.880] that are on the one hand sophisticated,
[01:47:49.880 --> 01:47:54.880] but on the other are little points
[01:47:54.880 --> 01:47:56.880] in a huge system
[01:47:56.880 --> 01:47:59.880] and over 10 years in getting these kinds of questions
[01:47:59.880 --> 01:48:01.880] it's always frustrated me
[01:48:01.880 --> 01:48:06.880] that the legal system is so complex
[01:48:06.880 --> 01:48:11.880] that it makes remedy unavailable
[01:48:11.880 --> 01:48:14.880] to the average individual.
[01:48:14.880 --> 01:48:20.880] And really Law Radio has always been about remedy.
[01:48:20.880 --> 01:48:24.880] And I think we are at the point
[01:48:24.880 --> 01:48:28.880] to where we will actually realize
[01:48:28.880 --> 01:48:31.880] my purpose from the beginning.
[01:48:31.880 --> 01:48:36.880] My purpose from the beginning has always been
[01:48:36.880 --> 01:48:38.880] to put every judge in the country
[01:48:38.880 --> 01:48:40.880] in a position such that
[01:48:40.880 --> 01:48:43.880] when they step up behind the bench
[01:48:43.880 --> 01:48:45.880] look out across the bar at the gallery
[01:48:45.880 --> 01:48:48.880] I want them wondering which one.
[01:48:48.880 --> 01:48:50.880] Which one? Jason, James,
[01:48:50.880 --> 01:48:53.880] which one of these guys out here
[01:48:53.880 --> 01:48:55.880] are waiting for me to render a ruling
[01:48:55.880 --> 01:48:57.880] so he can run down to the grand jury
[01:48:57.880 --> 01:48:59.880] trying to get me indicted.
[01:48:59.880 --> 01:49:04.880] When we have our judges in that position
[01:49:04.880 --> 01:49:07.880] the problems we're having with the legal system
[01:49:07.880 --> 01:49:12.880] will for the most part simply go away.
[01:49:12.880 --> 01:49:17.880] And it was that germ of a concept
[01:49:17.880 --> 01:49:23.880] that led to this litigation incident.
[01:49:23.880 --> 01:49:28.880] It was the idea of always holding the judge liable
[01:49:28.880 --> 01:49:30.880] for everything he does
[01:49:30.880 --> 01:49:32.880] and subsequently the lawyers liable
[01:49:32.880 --> 01:49:34.880] for everything they do
[01:49:34.880 --> 01:49:36.880] and subsequent to that the police liable
[01:49:36.880 --> 01:49:38.880] for what they do
[01:49:38.880 --> 01:49:42.880] that created this tool
[01:49:42.880 --> 01:49:46.880] and now we're ready to launch it.
[01:49:46.880 --> 01:49:51.880] So, Jason, James, do you have anything else?
[01:49:51.880 --> 01:49:55.880] I'm trying not to get in preachy mode.
[01:49:55.880 --> 01:49:57.880] I think you were getting ready to talk about
[01:49:57.880 --> 01:49:59.880] declaring authority judgment.
[01:49:59.880 --> 01:50:02.880] Oh yes, declare authority judgment.
[01:50:02.880 --> 01:50:05.880] You know, it gets frustrating sometimes
[01:50:05.880 --> 01:50:08.880] that something's right in front of you
[01:50:08.880 --> 01:50:10.880] and you can't see it.
[01:50:10.880 --> 01:50:12.880] I just mentioned declare authority judgment
[01:50:12.880 --> 01:50:14.880] to Art Patton in North Carolina
[01:50:14.880 --> 01:50:16.880] and he has a friend who's a lawyer
[01:50:16.880 --> 01:50:20.880] and he brought the issue to this lawyer
[01:50:20.880 --> 01:50:22.880] and the lawyer looked at it first
[01:50:22.880 --> 01:50:25.880] and he said, well, I've never heard of anything like that
[01:50:25.880 --> 01:50:28.880] and then a few days later the lawyer talked to him
[01:50:28.880 --> 01:50:31.880] and said, you know, I've thought about that
[01:50:31.880 --> 01:50:33.880] and he's right.
[01:50:33.880 --> 01:50:36.880] I don't know why we haven't been using it.
[01:50:36.880 --> 01:50:38.880] Declare authority judgment.
[01:50:38.880 --> 01:50:41.880] Declare authority judgment is suit
[01:50:41.880 --> 01:50:44.880] is used to prevent
[01:50:44.880 --> 01:50:47.880] or to bypass
[01:50:47.880 --> 01:50:50.880] complex litigation.
[01:50:50.880 --> 01:50:52.880] In a declaratory judgment suit
[01:50:52.880 --> 01:50:55.880] you ask for no damages.
[01:50:55.880 --> 01:50:57.880] You merely ask the court
[01:50:57.880 --> 01:51:02.880] to rule on the rights of the parties.
[01:51:02.880 --> 01:51:05.880] So, and in Texas
[01:51:05.880 --> 01:51:08.880] it costs between $2.50 and $300
[01:51:08.880 --> 01:51:12.880] to file a civil action in the district court.
[01:51:12.880 --> 01:51:15.880] But they want you to utilize
[01:51:15.880 --> 01:51:17.880] declaratory judgment
[01:51:17.880 --> 01:51:20.880] to eliminate potential litigation.
[01:51:20.880 --> 01:51:22.880] If you think you have an issue
[01:51:22.880 --> 01:51:24.880] based on a point of law
[01:51:24.880 --> 01:51:26.880] but you're not sure
[01:51:26.880 --> 01:51:29.880] of how the courts are likely to rule on that legal point
[01:51:29.880 --> 01:51:31.880] you can petition the court
[01:51:31.880 --> 01:51:33.880] or a judgment asks the court
[01:51:33.880 --> 01:51:35.880] to declare the rights of the parties.
[01:51:35.880 --> 01:51:37.880] And I've been doing this
[01:51:37.880 --> 01:51:41.880] for a long time in foreclosure.
[01:51:41.880 --> 01:51:44.880] I get someone in foreclosure.
[01:51:44.880 --> 01:51:46.880] I don't care about securitization.
[01:51:46.880 --> 01:51:50.880] I don't care about all this fraud that's going on.
[01:51:50.880 --> 01:51:53.880] First thing I want to do is look at
[01:51:53.880 --> 01:51:57.880] what's been filed in the public record.
[01:51:57.880 --> 01:52:00.880] And I want a declaratory judgment
[01:52:00.880 --> 01:52:02.880] on the rights of the parties
[01:52:02.880 --> 01:52:06.880] concerning the documents filed in the record.
[01:52:06.880 --> 01:52:08.880] Once I have that
[01:52:08.880 --> 01:52:11.880] now I have,
[01:52:11.880 --> 01:52:15.880] I have a ruling on these issues.
[01:52:15.880 --> 01:52:18.880] Now I can go in with my fraud
[01:52:18.880 --> 01:52:20.880] and say they couldn't do this
[01:52:20.880 --> 01:52:23.880] because this documentation wasn't right
[01:52:23.880 --> 01:52:25.880] and the court said so.
[01:52:25.880 --> 01:52:27.880] They can't revisit that.
[01:52:27.880 --> 01:52:30.880] It took me a long time for it to occur to me
[01:52:30.880 --> 01:52:33.880] that we can apply this to traffic.
[01:52:33.880 --> 01:52:36.880] Jason, you went in and said
[01:52:36.880 --> 01:52:39.880] this is what the law says.
[01:52:39.880 --> 01:52:42.880] And the judge said nah, do it that way.
[01:52:42.880 --> 01:52:44.880] Okay.
[01:52:44.880 --> 01:52:47.880] Now we filed a declaratory adjustment suit
[01:52:47.880 --> 01:52:49.880] and we put the law in the facts
[01:52:49.880 --> 01:52:52.880] before a district court.
[01:52:52.880 --> 01:52:54.880] And we're not asking,
[01:52:54.880 --> 01:52:56.880] we're not suing anybody directly.
[01:52:56.880 --> 01:52:58.880] We have to name an opposing party
[01:52:58.880 --> 01:53:01.880] so we have someone to object,
[01:53:01.880 --> 01:53:04.880] to analyze the other side of this issue.
[01:53:04.880 --> 01:53:07.880] But we're not asking really damages.
[01:53:07.880 --> 01:53:10.880] When you file a declaratory judgment suit
[01:53:10.880 --> 01:53:13.880] and don't ask for damages,
[01:53:13.880 --> 01:53:16.880] there's no one that can be harmed
[01:53:16.880 --> 01:53:19.880] and therefore there is
[01:53:19.880 --> 01:53:21.880] no immunity from a
[01:53:21.880 --> 01:53:25.880] declaratory judgment suit at all.
[01:53:25.880 --> 01:53:28.880] So you've got a municipal court over here
[01:53:28.880 --> 01:53:31.880] who's trying to collect as much money
[01:53:31.880 --> 01:53:33.880] as you can, as they can,
[01:53:33.880 --> 01:53:36.880] and they bring you into their court
[01:53:36.880 --> 01:53:39.880] and all of a sudden they get a subpoena
[01:53:39.880 --> 01:53:43.880] or a notice from the district court
[01:53:43.880 --> 01:53:45.880] that they've ensued,
[01:53:45.880 --> 01:53:47.880] that you filed a declaratory judgment suit
[01:53:47.880 --> 01:53:51.880] and named them as a party.
[01:53:51.880 --> 01:53:54.880] Now they have to hire a lawyer
[01:53:54.880 --> 01:53:57.880] to address the issues
[01:53:57.880 --> 01:53:59.880] in the declaratory judgment suit.
[01:53:59.880 --> 01:54:02.880] Now we've written one up for traffic.
[01:54:02.880 --> 01:54:05.880] I'm asking the court to rule
[01:54:05.880 --> 01:54:08.880] on the authority
[01:54:08.880 --> 01:54:11.880] of a peace officer
[01:54:11.880 --> 01:54:14.880] in Texas to act as a
[01:54:14.880 --> 01:54:17.880] police officer.
[01:54:17.880 --> 01:54:19.880] Peace officer penal code,
[01:54:19.880 --> 01:54:22.880] police officer transportation code.
[01:54:22.880 --> 01:54:25.880] We have the code
[01:54:25.880 --> 01:54:28.880] that says
[01:54:28.880 --> 01:54:30.880] Texas Highway Patrol
[01:54:30.880 --> 01:54:33.880] can enforce the transportation code.
[01:54:33.880 --> 01:54:35.880] The County Commissioner's Court
[01:54:35.880 --> 01:54:37.880] can appoint five deputies
[01:54:37.880 --> 01:54:39.880] to enforce the transportation code
[01:54:39.880 --> 01:54:41.880] and a municipality
[01:54:41.880 --> 01:54:43.880] can petition the sheriff
[01:54:43.880 --> 01:54:46.880] to recommend
[01:54:46.880 --> 01:54:49.880] a municipal officer
[01:54:49.880 --> 01:54:52.880] to enforce a portion of the transportation code.
[01:54:52.880 --> 01:54:55.880] Okay, we got that.
[01:54:55.880 --> 01:54:58.880] We're asking the court to rule
[01:54:58.880 --> 01:55:00.880] that there is nothing
[01:55:00.880 --> 01:55:03.880] authorizing
[01:55:03.880 --> 01:55:06.880] municipal police officers in general
[01:55:06.880 --> 01:55:08.880] to enforce the transportation code
[01:55:08.880 --> 01:55:10.880] and we make this legal argument
[01:55:10.880 --> 01:55:13.880] to a district judge and ask him to rule
[01:55:13.880 --> 01:55:17.880] on the authority of the municipal police officer.
[01:55:17.880 --> 01:55:20.880] Jason, what happens if they rule
[01:55:20.880 --> 01:55:23.880] in your favor?
[01:55:23.880 --> 01:55:27.880] Res judicata.
[01:55:27.880 --> 01:55:30.880] Now you go back
[01:55:30.880 --> 01:55:33.880] to the municipal court
[01:55:33.880 --> 01:55:37.880] and take them to task.
[01:55:37.880 --> 01:55:41.880] Say, Mr. Podunk Municipal Judge,
[01:55:41.880 --> 01:55:44.880] do you want to stand in defiance
[01:55:44.880 --> 01:55:46.880] of the local district judge?
[01:55:46.880 --> 01:55:49.880] If they do that, then we bring out
[01:55:49.880 --> 01:55:52.880] screws for U.S.
[01:55:52.880 --> 01:55:55.880] He who defies a ruling
[01:55:55.880 --> 01:55:58.880] of this court knows
[01:55:58.880 --> 01:56:01.880] precisely what he's doing.
[01:56:01.880 --> 01:56:04.880] If he be saying
[01:56:04.880 --> 01:56:06.880] he may not be heard to say
[01:56:06.880 --> 01:56:09.880] he knows not what he does.
[01:56:09.880 --> 01:56:12.880] So we come back to the municipal court
[01:56:12.880 --> 01:56:14.880] with a district court ruling
[01:56:14.880 --> 01:56:18.880] and you have got them by the you-know-whats.
[01:56:18.880 --> 01:56:22.880] It's only cost 15 bucks.
[01:56:22.880 --> 01:56:24.880] And here's what I'm asking for
[01:56:24.880 --> 01:56:27.880] in the declaratory judgment.
[01:56:27.880 --> 01:56:30.880] I'm asking that the court rule
[01:56:30.880 --> 01:56:33.880] that the officer
[01:56:33.880 --> 01:56:35.880] acted in violation of law
[01:56:35.880 --> 01:56:37.880] and asked for an order
[01:56:37.880 --> 01:56:40.880] revoking his T-clothes certification
[01:56:40.880 --> 01:56:43.880] as a peace officer.
[01:56:43.880 --> 01:56:45.880] I'm asking that the court
[01:56:45.880 --> 01:56:48.880] order the municipal court
[01:56:48.880 --> 01:56:52.880] to dismiss the instant case
[01:56:52.880 --> 01:56:55.880] to reverse rulings
[01:56:55.880 --> 01:56:59.880] on all cases filed by this officer
[01:56:59.880 --> 01:57:04.880] to reverse all convictions
[01:57:04.880 --> 01:57:06.880] under the transportation code
[01:57:06.880 --> 01:57:09.880] based on complaints filed by officers
[01:57:09.880 --> 01:57:11.880] who were not authorized
[01:57:11.880 --> 01:57:13.880] by the transportation code to enforce
[01:57:13.880 --> 01:57:15.880] to disengorge themselves
[01:57:15.880 --> 01:57:17.880] all of the funds they have received.
[01:57:17.880 --> 01:57:19.880] I say I can do that
[01:57:19.880 --> 01:57:22.880] because I'm not asking them to give me a dime.
[01:57:22.880 --> 01:57:24.880] I'm asking the court
[01:57:24.880 --> 01:57:26.880] to order them to give back money
[01:57:26.880 --> 01:57:29.880] that they took improperly.
[01:57:29.880 --> 01:57:31.880] That's not damages.
[01:57:31.880 --> 01:57:33.880] That's just returning
[01:57:33.880 --> 01:57:35.880] what they didn't have a right to.
[01:57:35.880 --> 01:57:37.880] Then I'm asking for a court of inquiry.
[01:57:37.880 --> 01:57:40.880] The big one
[01:57:40.880 --> 01:57:44.880] is the T-clothes certification reversal.
[01:57:44.880 --> 01:57:46.880] Whether we get it or not
[01:57:46.880 --> 01:57:49.880] we're going to terrify the police.
[01:57:49.880 --> 01:57:51.880] They get that revoked.
[01:57:51.880 --> 01:57:53.880] He's not a cop anymore.
[01:57:53.880 --> 01:57:56.880] He's not even a security guard.
[01:57:56.880 --> 01:57:59.880] He's toast.
[01:57:59.880 --> 01:58:02.880] Okay, we are out of time.
[01:58:02.880 --> 01:58:04.880] I've had great fun.
[01:58:04.880 --> 01:58:07.880] Jason, James, thanks to both of you
[01:58:07.880 --> 01:58:10.880] for coming on and helping me
[01:58:10.880 --> 01:58:12.880] go through this issue.
[01:58:12.880 --> 01:58:15.880] You've given me three or four arguments
[01:58:15.880 --> 01:58:17.880] that I will be constructing
[01:58:17.880 --> 01:58:19.880] and adding to the engine.
[01:58:19.880 --> 01:58:22.880] We will be building on our reservoir
[01:58:22.880 --> 01:58:26.880] of remedy for ordinary people
[01:58:26.880 --> 01:58:28.880] that now anybody can come back
[01:58:28.880 --> 01:58:31.880] and we'll be able to use these arguments we make here.
[01:58:31.880 --> 01:58:33.880] Thank you all for being here.
[01:58:33.880 --> 01:58:35.880] Thank you everyone for listening.
[01:58:35.880 --> 01:58:37.880] And mostly thanks everybody
[01:58:37.880 --> 01:58:39.880] for being there this last ten years
[01:58:39.880 --> 01:58:41.880] to help bring us to this point.
[01:58:41.880 --> 01:58:43.880] We'll be back next week.
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