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[00:44.000 --> 00:47.000] Today in history, the year 1957
[00:47.000 --> 00:49.000] Operation Grapple X
[00:49.000 --> 00:54.000] Around C1, the United Kingdom conducts its first successful hydrogen bomb test
[00:54.000 --> 00:56.000] Over Cretamati in the Pacific
[00:56.000 --> 01:05.000] In recent news, a list of the 26 murdered victims of the church massacre
[01:05.000 --> 01:09.000] The first Baptist church in Sutherland Springs, Texas was released today
[01:09.000 --> 01:13.000] Their ages range from the unborn child of Crystal Marie Holcomb
[01:13.000 --> 01:16.000] Who was pregnant and a 77-year-old elder
[01:16.000 --> 01:19.000] The heartless, senseless atrocity was committed by a 26-year-old male
[01:19.000 --> 01:21.000] Who killed himself at the end of the massacre
[01:21.000 --> 01:24.000] Law enforcement is stating that the killer was having a relational issue
[01:24.000 --> 01:26.000] With his mother-in-law who attended the church
[01:26.000 --> 01:28.000] But was not there during the event
[01:28.000 --> 01:30.000] The FBI has the assailant's phone
[01:30.000 --> 01:32.000] Which was taken to their facility in Virginia
[01:32.000 --> 01:34.000] But apparently have been unable to unlock it
[01:34.000 --> 01:37.000] With the potentiality of it taking months to unlock
[01:37.000 --> 01:40.000] It appears that the killer had been court-martialed by the Air Force
[01:40.000 --> 01:42.000] And charged with abusing his wife and stepson
[01:42.000 --> 01:44.000] Pleading guilty to both counts
[01:44.000 --> 01:47.000] Charges that apparently the Air Force failed to follow policies
[01:47.000 --> 01:50.000] With filing to alert federal law enforcement about his convictions
[01:50.000 --> 01:54.000] Which apparently would have kept the killer from being able to legally buy firearms
[01:54.000 --> 01:56.000] And passing background checks
[01:56.000 --> 01:58.000] And apparently even while still in service
[01:58.000 --> 02:01.000] He escaped from a mental health facility after getting caught
[02:01.000 --> 02:03.000] Sneaking guns onto the base
[02:03.000 --> 02:06.000] And attempting to carry out death threats against military superiors
[02:06.000 --> 02:08.000] According to a police report
[02:12.000 --> 02:15.000] Kentucky Senator Rand Paul released an update on his medical condition
[02:15.000 --> 02:17.000] Via Twitter today
[02:17.000 --> 02:20.000] Appreciate all of the support from everyone
[02:20.000 --> 02:23.000] Medical update, final report, incidents, six broken ribs
[02:23.000 --> 02:26.000] And a new X-ray shows a plural effusion
[02:26.000 --> 02:29.000] Apparently a dispute between Paul and the aggressor
[02:29.000 --> 02:32.000] A Democrat allegedly arose over yard work and not politics
[02:32.000 --> 02:35.000] The aggressor's attorney, Matthew Baker, stated that quote
[02:35.000 --> 02:38.000] The unfortunate occurrence of November 3rd
[02:38.000 --> 02:41.000] Has absolutely nothing to do with either politics or political agendas
[02:41.000 --> 02:44.000] It was a very regrettable dispute between two neighbors
[02:44.000 --> 02:47.000] No matter that most people would regard as trivial
[02:47.000 --> 02:49.000] We sincerely hope that Senator Paul is doing well
[02:49.000 --> 02:53.000] That these two gentlemen can get back to being neighbors as quickly as possible
[02:53.000 --> 03:13.000] This was Rick Brody with your lowdown from November 8th, 2017
[03:23.000 --> 03:28.000] This is Rick Brody with your lowdown from November 8th, 2017
[03:53.000 --> 03:58.000] This is Rick Brody with your lowdown from November 8th, 2017
[04:23.000 --> 04:28.000] This is Rick Brody with your lowdown from November 8th, 2017
[04:53.000 --> 04:58.000] This is Rick Brody with your lowdown from November 8th, 2017
[04:58.000 --> 05:03.000] This is Rick Brody with your lowdown from November 8th, 2017
[05:03.000 --> 05:08.000] This is Rick Brody with your lowdown from November 8th, 2017
[05:08.000 --> 05:13.000] This is Rick Brody with your lowdown from November 8th, 2017
[05:13.000 --> 05:28.600] Good, it's getting popular, it's all get-out, so I'm going to get on with it.
[05:28.600 --> 05:29.600] Yeah, I got it.
[05:29.600 --> 05:32.160] I got at least five people listening.
[05:32.160 --> 05:33.160] We're cooking.
[05:33.160 --> 05:39.360] Well, don't worry, they're probably waiting for me to jump off here and so the next person
[05:39.360 --> 05:41.080] can get on.
[05:41.080 --> 05:45.560] So I wanted to kind of, I'll make this kind of quick because I know everybody else wants
[05:45.560 --> 05:53.000] to get in, but you know, after filing all those T-close letters, I counted them up today
[05:53.000 --> 05:56.720] and I've got 22 of those puppies.
[05:56.720 --> 06:03.560] And I was talking to Howard Griswold about it, he's been on my show on Truth Radio and
[06:03.560 --> 06:09.560] for y'all that don't know, I have a radio show on Truth Radio on Wednesday night, Central
[06:09.560 --> 06:15.680] Time, that's eight o'clock, or nine o'clock is my time, and Randy naturally is on Mondays
[06:15.680 --> 06:20.560] from eight to nine o'clock on Truth Radio and y'all can get in on that too.
[06:20.560 --> 06:27.480] But I was talking to Howard about that and he said, know what you ought to do is send
[06:27.480 --> 06:38.120] that person that wrote that standard letter, a letter asking him where he receives his
[06:38.120 --> 06:39.920] training.
[06:39.920 --> 06:46.520] And I thought that was kind of a really good idea and so today I had about an hour or so
[06:46.520 --> 06:52.480] a little bit of idle time while I was doing some of my other stuff until I kind of put
[06:52.480 --> 07:00.040] together a little letter and I thought maybe you might be interested, it's one page, but
[07:00.040 --> 07:04.800] I thought if you wanted me to, I could read it real quick and see what you kind of thought
[07:04.800 --> 07:05.800] about it.
[07:05.800 --> 07:16.640] Okay, howdy, howdy, Randy Kelton, Truth Radio, sorry about the delay coming in, we had a
[07:16.640 --> 07:24.080] minor technical glitch, but our producers seem to have gotten that taken care of.
[07:24.080 --> 07:32.200] Okay, we have a special guest today, Keith Borders from Constitution Club website, he's
[07:32.200 --> 07:36.720] a retired teacher and he's one of us, hello Keith.
[07:36.720 --> 07:40.840] Well, good evening, I'm very glad to have the opportunity to speak with you and your
[07:40.840 --> 07:42.080] listening audience.
[07:42.080 --> 07:47.600] I'm a retired school teacher, my mother was a school teacher, my father was a school
[07:47.600 --> 07:51.040] teacher so it was in the family blood so to speak.
[07:51.040 --> 07:56.120] I was a high school coach, football coach, wrestling coach, various other sports and
[07:56.120 --> 07:57.120] things.
[07:57.120 --> 08:03.680] I taught a lot of different courses at a lot of different grade levels and I kept having
[08:03.680 --> 08:07.760] problems, mostly with administration.
[08:07.760 --> 08:15.800] I was very creative and I really had a lot of creative juices that I used to enlighten
[08:15.800 --> 08:20.880] and inspire my students to learn, but it seemed like every time I was getting in trouble because
[08:20.880 --> 08:26.480] I was trying to get the kids to think for themselves, the administration didn't want
[08:26.480 --> 08:32.120] me to do that, they wanted me to follow the curriculum and to teach the kids what it was
[08:32.120 --> 08:38.520] being said to us in the textbooks and I just felt really uncomfortable and it wasn't until
[08:38.520 --> 08:45.760] quite a bit later in my life that I came to the realization of why I had a problem.
[08:45.760 --> 08:49.680] About the time that Barack Obama was running for president was probably when I was really
[08:49.680 --> 08:55.120] awakened, that's when I started to realize the fact that the years that I spent as a
[08:55.120 --> 08:59.640] teacher that I was actually in bed with the enemy and that I was actually helping to indoctrinate
[08:59.640 --> 09:00.640] the children.
[09:00.640 --> 09:05.560] I wasn't inspiring them and motivated them as much as I could or should to think for themselves
[09:05.560 --> 09:13.800] but I was teaching them to be obedient servants, I was teaching the kids what to think, not
[09:13.800 --> 09:19.920] how to think and it wasn't until around 2008 that I started to really realize the fact
[09:19.920 --> 09:25.000] that I didn't know diddly squat and that I didn't start to do a great deal of research
[09:25.000 --> 09:26.000] on the Internet.
[09:26.000 --> 09:35.360] I started creating YouTube channels where I have playlists and I've got now, I would
[09:35.360 --> 09:40.680] say that I probably have over 1500 playlists that I've created on every imaginable topic,
[09:40.680 --> 09:46.920] most all of these topics so are related to liberty, the Constitution, the foundation
[09:46.920 --> 09:57.440] of a just society, natural law, these types of things and I've got probably 15 or 20,000
[09:57.440 --> 10:05.880] videos that I've collected into this library and in 2009 I started a group called the Constitution
[10:05.880 --> 10:10.320] Club where I wanted to create a website where people could go to get information but they
[10:10.320 --> 10:16.960] could learn to basically decipher what is right and what is wrong by exploring and looking
[10:16.960 --> 10:17.960] for the truth.
[10:17.960 --> 10:23.640] You know we were endowed by our creator with tremendous abilities and talents that in most
[10:23.640 --> 10:28.680] cases are lying dormant because the schools basically teach kids basically to think what
[10:28.680 --> 10:32.800] everybody else is thinking and do what everybody else is doing.
[10:32.800 --> 10:36.720] So I created this website, the Constitution Club and the idea behind it again was to try
[10:36.720 --> 10:41.920] to help people who learn about the principles of individual liberty and personal responsibility
[10:41.920 --> 10:47.320] to teach them, to help them to be able to educate themselves.
[10:47.320 --> 10:54.680] When a person harnesses their God-given powers to think, they basically don't need to teach
[10:54.680 --> 10:59.760] your people, can teach themselves if they are pointed in the right direction and so
[10:59.760 --> 11:07.440] anyway we created this website and over the years since the, well I guess actually the
[11:07.440 --> 11:14.760] website was not officially inaugurated until around November the 9th, 2012 but since that
[11:14.760 --> 11:20.720] time we've got, oh 4500 or so people who have joined the website and the people basically
[11:20.720 --> 11:25.000] go there to read articles that I've written or things that I've posted.
[11:25.000 --> 11:31.880] I've written literally, or I've posted on the website literally I think 6000 different
[11:31.880 --> 11:38.200] articles or videos or different types of content related to people who are interested in the
[11:38.200 --> 11:44.880] restoration of liberty and so basically I'm a, I guess you could say that I'm very much
[11:44.880 --> 11:51.640] opposed to public education, I'm opposed to indoctrination, I think that our job should
[11:51.640 --> 11:57.720] be to not try to fill the children's minds with useless data.
[11:57.720 --> 12:05.240] I think that the problem is that our schools have basically start taking a creative brain
[12:05.240 --> 12:09.960] and turn it into a warehouse of useless information.
[12:09.960 --> 12:17.800] Our brain was supposed to be a thought factory and creativity is something that is, that separates
[12:17.800 --> 12:25.240] us from the animal and yet our schools basically teach kids to call by the numbers and to connect
[12:25.240 --> 12:26.240] the dots.
[12:26.240 --> 12:30.640] They want the kids to all virtually be the same and that's why things like this common
[12:30.640 --> 12:31.640] core are so bad.
[12:31.640 --> 12:37.080] I mean that's one of the principal planks of Carl Marx's Commons Manifesto.
[12:37.080 --> 12:41.480] This is unique in order to control the people you need to control the curriculum and there's
[12:41.480 --> 12:47.680] nowhere of course in our constitution that says anything about the government really
[12:47.680 --> 12:51.160] getting involved in its schools or education, it's not in the constitution.
[12:51.160 --> 12:55.720] Now our founding fathers were not opposed to it but they felt that something that's important
[12:55.720 --> 13:01.960] as education should be done in the home and in the communities, in the local schools and
[13:01.960 --> 13:08.000] frankly the literacy rate back in the 1850s is substantially higher than it is today.
[13:08.000 --> 13:14.760] We've spent millions and billions of dollars on trying to educate using compulsory education.
[13:14.760 --> 13:20.800] It's been a miserable failure and so one of the things that I told Randy, Randall that
[13:20.800 --> 13:25.600] I wanted to discuss a little bit is just the fact that our schools are not teaching the
[13:25.600 --> 13:31.520] children the things they need to know to be successful independent freedom living people.
[13:31.520 --> 13:38.680] They're teaching people how to become obedient lapdog servants to a government and so that's
[13:38.680 --> 13:42.720] kind of where I'm at.
[13:42.720 --> 13:50.680] I'm 70 years old now and I spend basically all of my waking hours trying to provide resources
[13:50.680 --> 13:52.160] to the Patriot community.
[13:52.160 --> 13:54.800] My website again is the Constitution Club.
[13:54.800 --> 14:08.760] It has kind of a strange suffix after the Constitution Club, it's.ningning.com,.ning.com.
[14:08.760 --> 14:14.240] Constitution Club.ning.com and anybody that's listening tonight would like to get involved.
[14:14.240 --> 14:16.160] It's a social networking type of site.
[14:16.160 --> 14:21.320] If you wish it to be, you can basically post your information, your blogs, your articles,
[14:21.320 --> 14:26.320] your videos, you can post them on the website and you can share them with all of the other
[14:26.320 --> 14:29.280] members on the website.
[14:29.280 --> 14:33.800] We just inaugurated something new, we're having a program now where individuals out there
[14:33.800 --> 14:38.000] in the community would like to write an article, we're having an essay writing contest, it's
[14:38.000 --> 14:45.040] about a 300 word essay on any topic you wish and the Constitution Club administrators will
[14:45.040 --> 14:54.680] evaluate the article and we'll pay out a $30 prize to the best essay and that's something
[14:54.680 --> 14:56.680] we're just getting started with.
[14:56.680 --> 15:06.440] My co-administrator on the website is Morton Thompson from Pennsylvania and we are basically
[15:06.440 --> 15:12.240] doing everything that we can to promote liberty and responsibility.
[15:12.240 --> 15:17.400] So that's kind of the beginning stages there.
[15:17.400 --> 15:31.040] Do you have a strategy for bringing to the otherwise interested person a method of securing
[15:31.040 --> 15:32.040] liberty?
[15:32.040 --> 15:40.640] Well, I think the first thing that has to happen is people have to be deprogrammed.
[15:40.640 --> 15:44.400] Like I said, we've been indoctrinated in schools to believe that certain things are
[15:44.400 --> 15:48.920] the way they are and a lot of the things that we've been taught are just flat out not true
[15:48.920 --> 15:54.200] and you well know that in the history of wars, the people who write the histories are the
[15:54.200 --> 16:00.800] people who win the wars and so in our schools we've been programmed to think about how the
[16:00.800 --> 16:05.560] United States is such a wonderful place, we're just a beacon of liberty and hope and prosperity
[16:05.560 --> 16:10.840] and all of these things and to be very candid with you, if you take a look at some of the
[16:10.840 --> 16:14.960] things that have happened in our country's history, if we look at it objectively from
[16:14.960 --> 16:20.680] an unbiased position, we can come to realize the fact that we've been caught.
[16:20.680 --> 16:30.080] For example, in 1452 the Pope was a guy by the name of Pope Nicholas and he was responding
[16:30.080 --> 16:35.800] to a lot of the actions of the Muslims, the followers of Muhammad, who were going around
[16:35.800 --> 16:42.800] the world and they were using the sword to convert people to their religion and in order
[16:42.800 --> 16:49.880] to combat the Muslim tyranny, the Pope says, well, if they're going to do it, we're going
[16:49.880 --> 16:50.880] to do it too.
[16:50.880 --> 16:56.200] So he put together something, a papal bull, it was called the doctrine of discovery and
[16:56.200 --> 17:01.800] basically what he said in the doctrine of discovery is that win a Christian nation.
[17:26.200 --> 17:32.040] I'm going to throw away these yucky cookies in the trash.
[17:32.040 --> 17:39.720] I clicked control, shift, delete and then scroll down to cookies and clear them.
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[17:52.200 --> 17:53.200] New cookies?
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[17:58.880 --> 18:02.800] this link and I give a little present to this radio network too.
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[19:19.680 --> 19:21.880] Okay, we are back.
[19:21.880 --> 19:29.880] Randy Kelton, rule of law radio on this Friday, the 10th day of November, 2017 and I apologize
[19:29.880 --> 19:34.440] for not doing that at the beginning but we had a little technical difficulty when we
[19:34.440 --> 19:36.920] came on the air and we're still struggling.
[19:36.920 --> 19:42.200] We have some issues so if I tend to run off the cliff a little bit or we go out a little
[19:42.200 --> 19:46.680] earlier or later because we're having to do everything manual to keep this thing going
[19:46.680 --> 19:51.280] so bear with us if we have a few issues.
[19:51.280 --> 19:59.120] Okay, we're talking to Keith and where were we, Keith, when we ran off the cliff there?
[19:59.120 --> 20:06.480] We were talking about the Doctrine of Discovery of Nicholas in 1452.
[20:06.480 --> 20:11.840] So when Columbus came to the Americas, he actually didn't come to the American mainland.
[20:11.840 --> 20:17.760] He landed in the Caribbean island but what he did is he planted a flag in the ground
[20:17.760 --> 20:26.040] and he basically claimed the land in the name of the queen of Spain, Queen Isabella King
[20:26.040 --> 20:27.040] Ferdinand.
[20:27.040 --> 20:32.280] And basically the Doctrine of Discovery issued by the Pope basically said that any Christian
[20:32.280 --> 20:38.320] monarch who sent out an explorer who discovered some land or territory that was occupied by
[20:38.320 --> 20:44.640] non-Christians, that those people were heathens and that they were basically subject to the
[20:44.640 --> 20:52.640] queen and that they were to be enslaved or killed if necessary and all of their land
[20:52.640 --> 20:55.600] and all of their possessions were the property of the queen.
[20:55.600 --> 21:01.960] Now this was a Christian doctrine, I might add, that was embraced not only by the Catholics
[21:01.960 --> 21:08.040] at that time but it was embraced by virtually all the Christian community and it was applied
[21:08.040 --> 21:14.220] in the continental United States when the colonists wanted the land out in the western
[21:14.220 --> 21:15.220] part of the country.
[21:15.220 --> 21:20.920] They basically took it because they were operating under the understanding that they were doing
[21:20.920 --> 21:21.920] the will of God.
[21:21.920 --> 21:27.560] I mean it was God's proclamation to the Pope that they've had the right to colonize and
[21:27.560 --> 21:33.520] civilize and to exterminate any of the human debris that was living on the land.
[21:33.520 --> 21:38.880] And so when you take a look at our nation's history and you take a look at the genocide
[21:38.880 --> 21:44.040] that took place in terms of the numbers of Native American or indigenous peoples who
[21:44.040 --> 21:48.800] lost their lives as a result, it's very disgusting.
[21:48.800 --> 21:57.000] And when you take a look at how the founding fathers managed to find a way to justify slavery
[21:57.000 --> 22:03.800] and so if you take a look at the history of our nation, there's a lot of really terrible
[22:03.800 --> 22:08.720] skeletons in the closet and I think that it's important for us to realize that just
[22:08.720 --> 22:11.760] because we did it doesn't mean that it's right.
[22:11.760 --> 22:17.960] The internment of the Japanese in World War II was a clear violation of the Constitution
[22:17.960 --> 22:24.600] and yet the clowns in the Supreme Court didn't get it and they never get it.
[22:24.600 --> 22:28.400] So we're going back to the whole idea of the Constitution Club.
[22:28.400 --> 22:34.200] What we're trying to do is we're trying to teach people that in order to have your liberty,
[22:34.200 --> 22:38.400] you have to assume the responsibility which is the flip side of that coin.
[22:38.400 --> 22:41.880] You can't have liberty unless you're responsible.
[22:41.880 --> 22:46.040] And one of the things that I discovered just recently that I thought was really appalling
[22:46.040 --> 22:50.840] everybody says, well, you know, we're a democracy or we're a republic, you know, that's just
[22:50.840 --> 22:51.840] simply not true.
[22:51.840 --> 22:55.280] We're an oligarchy and we haven't been almost from the beginning.
[22:55.280 --> 23:00.920] In the election of 1800, John Adams, who was the sitting vice president, ran for president
[23:00.920 --> 23:03.600] against Thomas Jefferson.
[23:03.600 --> 23:09.360] There were five million people living in the 13, well by that time there was more colon,
[23:09.360 --> 23:15.880] more states, I think there was more like probably 16 or so, 17 maybe states at that time.
[23:15.880 --> 23:18.240] But you know, there were five million people.
[23:18.240 --> 23:21.680] You have any idea how many people voted in the election of 1800?
[23:21.680 --> 23:25.320] Can you answer that question?
[23:25.320 --> 23:29.520] Probably 500, maybe 5,000, 1%?
[23:29.520 --> 23:37.360] Well, it was 67,000 people voted for president which represented 1.2% of the American people
[23:37.360 --> 23:38.360] voted.
[23:38.360 --> 23:45.320] Well, that means that the country was basically being run by an oligarchy of 67,000 who appointed
[23:45.320 --> 23:49.400] a smaller oligarchy to basically run the show.
[23:49.400 --> 23:55.720] So our country has been, it hasn't been a rule of the majority, it's really been the
[23:55.720 --> 24:04.160] rule of a select minority, a very greedy and corrupt individuals.
[24:04.160 --> 24:12.440] And I think that frankly one of the things that, one of the things that I was trying
[24:12.440 --> 24:19.600] to accomplish on the website is to get people to try to cleanse their mind of all the things
[24:19.600 --> 24:24.800] that they have thought were true and to basically try to create a mind with a blank slate and
[24:24.800 --> 24:30.200] try to come back and try to sort and sift and discover what is true, what is real.
[24:30.200 --> 24:36.560] And get people to use this tremendous power that they have to think and to reason.
[24:36.560 --> 24:41.920] We don't need to reinvent the wheel, we just simply need to embrace the principles of
[24:41.920 --> 24:48.240] natural law and common law and to, we need to return to those principles and we need
[24:48.240 --> 24:51.600] people to basically take a lot more responsibility.
[24:51.600 --> 24:57.560] Most people complain about the government but the same people are doing nothing themselves
[24:57.560 --> 25:00.200] to try to fix the problems.
[25:00.200 --> 25:09.040] Okay, well you have came to the right place because here we don't talk about philosophy,
[25:09.040 --> 25:14.200] we don't talk about politics, well we do talk about politics a little bit.
[25:14.200 --> 25:18.600] We only talk about politics as it relates to local individuals.
[25:18.600 --> 25:25.800] We talk about how to take public officials to task.
[25:25.800 --> 25:31.840] And one of the things I tell everybody is when you walk into a courthouse you are the
[25:31.840 --> 25:34.800] baddest motor scooter in the building.
[25:34.800 --> 25:40.600] And there is only one reason you are the baddest motor scooter in the building is because you
[25:40.600 --> 25:49.360] are not a judge, a prosecutor, a clerk, a bailiff, all of those guys are public servants.
[25:49.360 --> 25:55.080] They are the servants, you are the master.
[25:55.080 --> 25:57.560] Where this comes from?
[25:57.560 --> 26:03.000] I was once in court with someone with a traffic citation.
[26:03.000 --> 26:07.640] I didn't have one so I didn't have a dog and a hunt so I could stand back and watch.
[26:07.640 --> 26:11.920] And all these people standing outside the court, getting ready to go into trial, they
[26:11.920 --> 26:16.400] are all huffing and puffing and how they are going to get this policeman's job and they
[26:16.400 --> 26:18.600] are going to read him the riot act.
[26:18.600 --> 26:24.240] And this one guy there with a really nice suit, older person, had the look of a high
[26:24.240 --> 26:25.240] level executive.
[26:25.240 --> 26:30.920] He had a set of notes in his hand, looked real organized, got into court, they called
[26:30.920 --> 26:32.760] him first.
[26:32.760 --> 26:39.360] He stood up in front of the court with holding these papers, could hardly speak.
[26:39.360 --> 26:45.280] These papers in his hand were shaking so much I don't know how he could have read them.
[26:45.280 --> 26:50.960] And I looked at that and wondered, what in the world is going on?
[26:50.960 --> 26:57.240] When we were out in the hall, this guy indicated supreme confidence.
[26:57.240 --> 27:03.120] He walks in the courtroom and all of a sudden he is terrified, took a while to understand
[27:03.120 --> 27:04.120] that.
[27:04.120 --> 27:06.480] Goes back to our school system.
[27:06.480 --> 27:12.800] We put our children through 12 years of government mandated school and we spent a lot of that
[27:12.800 --> 27:18.560] time telling our kids what a great and wonderful legal system we live under.
[27:18.560 --> 27:25.880] We live under a land of law where we are members of a republic, where we have inalienable
[27:25.880 --> 27:29.880] rights, blah, blah, blah.
[27:29.880 --> 27:36.200] However, while you are in this school, don't even think of trying to exert one of those
[27:36.200 --> 27:40.280] rights or the whole weight of the system will fall right square on your head.
[27:40.280 --> 27:45.400] We put our children through 12 years of this hypocrisy.
[27:45.400 --> 27:50.760] Then they get out into the real world and they don't have any more experience with government
[27:50.760 --> 27:52.240] officials for the most part.
[27:52.240 --> 27:57.440] Unless they get a ticket or something or they get charged with a crime and they brought
[27:57.440 --> 27:58.440] it before a judge.
[27:58.440 --> 28:05.440] Well, when they step up before the judge, what behavioral experience do they have in
[28:05.440 --> 28:07.920] this context?
[28:07.920 --> 28:13.360] What set of behavioral responses and reactions do they have to draw from?
[28:13.360 --> 28:18.160] Well, the only experience they have with public officials is in the school system.
[28:18.160 --> 28:28.000] And that's where they talk the talk, but made sure you never try to buck against the system.
[28:28.000 --> 28:36.360] So this older individual, knowledgeable, sophisticated, when he stepped up in front of the judge,
[28:36.360 --> 28:44.600] the only behavioral set he's had for this situation was being sent to the principal.
[28:44.600 --> 28:48.760] God grader, fourth grader, being sent to the principal and he's terrified.
[28:48.760 --> 28:52.680] He probably doesn't understand why he's terrified.
[28:52.680 --> 28:58.440] He knows this is inappropriate, but it's what he feels.
[28:58.440 --> 29:10.800] This shows about creating a juxtaposition, juxtapose this behavioral set that we have
[29:10.800 --> 29:18.320] for dealing with the principal when we're sent to the principal.
[29:18.320 --> 29:23.560] We just juxtapose that with a parent going to the principal, won't know what in the
[29:23.560 --> 29:27.000] heck are you doing to my kids down here.
[29:27.000 --> 29:30.000] That is a whole different behavioral set.
[29:30.000 --> 29:38.760] Most everything we do in this show is about energizing a different behavioral set that
[29:38.760 --> 29:42.480] we can access when we deal with public officials.
[29:42.480 --> 29:49.080] Once we can do that, everything changes and we become the most powerful person in the
[29:49.080 --> 29:58.000] courthouse because all of these individuals are public servants and you and I, we are
[29:58.000 --> 29:59.880] the masters of those servants.
[29:59.880 --> 30:08.840] It seems like everywhere you turn nowadays, someone wants your name, social security number
[30:08.840 --> 30:13.000] and date of birth, but you should think twice before giving away your personal data.
[30:13.000 --> 30:16.560] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht and I'll say more in just a moment.
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[30:47.400 --> 30:51.440] Forms, forms, forms, they're everywhere, but just because a piece of paper asks for
[30:51.440 --> 30:53.600] information doesn't mean you have to give it.
[30:53.600 --> 30:58.840] I lead blank spaces on forms all the time or I write N slash A for not applicable and
[30:58.840 --> 31:00.920] usually nobody notices or cares.
[31:00.920 --> 31:05.480] I never give my social security number or date of birth unless it's absolutely mandatory
[31:05.480 --> 31:09.800] for employment or a government requirement and I won't give my phone number to a company
[31:09.800 --> 31:13.960] or an organization unless I actually want them to call me and that's pretty rare.
[31:13.960 --> 31:19.080] To preserve our vanishing privacy, we need to practice saying no to random data requests.
[31:19.080 --> 31:20.720] It's like exercising a muscle.
[31:20.720 --> 31:22.880] It gets easier the more you do it.
[31:22.880 --> 31:26.880] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, more news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[31:52.880 --> 32:13.960] In today's America, we live in an us against them society and if we the people are ever
[32:13.960 --> 32:17.880] going to have a free society then we're going to have to stand and defend our own rights.
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[33:07.760 --> 33:23.120] Okay, we are back, we're at the count of rule of law radio and I apologize for having a
[33:23.120 --> 33:29.320] little problem with the clocks and ran off the cliff again.
[33:29.320 --> 33:34.120] Keith, where were we when I let us run off the cliff?
[33:34.120 --> 33:40.760] What I'd like to share is something that I consider to be the case.
[33:40.760 --> 33:44.760] Having been a school teacher I know that a lot of times we did things which were really
[33:44.760 --> 33:45.760] unjust.
[33:45.760 --> 33:48.040] We didn't really respect the rights of our students.
[33:48.040 --> 33:54.360] For example, if one or two students were misbehaving we'd punish the whole class as a result.
[33:54.360 --> 34:01.240] That's not really what our system is supposed to be all about and if you really take a look
[34:01.240 --> 34:11.840] at it, the 13th Amendment, the one that was unlawfully ratified and I guess was 1865 basically
[34:11.840 --> 34:16.840] said that slavery and involuntary search were henceforth and forever forbidden in the United
[34:16.840 --> 34:17.840] States.
[34:17.840 --> 34:22.440] Well, if you take a child and you take him, you kidnap him from his parents at the age
[34:22.440 --> 34:30.200] of five and you retain him in custody until the kid is 18 and you basically send them
[34:30.200 --> 34:37.360] to a concentration camp known as a public school for 13 years and they're not being
[34:37.360 --> 34:45.720] compensated, that is the very definition of involuntary servitude or slavery, do you agree?
[34:45.720 --> 34:48.040] I would tend to agree, yes.
[34:48.040 --> 34:50.840] How do we adjudicate that issue?
[34:50.840 --> 34:52.640] How do we address it?
[34:52.640 --> 34:57.720] Well, I think the first thing that we need to do is we need to look at the Constitution
[34:57.720 --> 35:05.400] and the Constitution makes no reference in Article 1, Section 8, it makes no reference
[35:05.400 --> 35:10.440] to the power of the Congress to pass any legislation related to education.
[35:10.440 --> 35:14.520] So the first thing we need to do is to get rid of any nationalization of education.
[35:14.520 --> 35:18.720] We don't need to have the federal government trying to control the curriculum but this
[35:18.720 --> 35:23.920] is something that needs to be done at the local level in the communities, in the cities
[35:23.920 --> 35:29.080] and the communities, maybe even in the counties and the states but the federal government
[35:29.080 --> 35:33.200] has absolutely no race to get involved in education.
[35:33.200 --> 35:39.520] We had almost 100% in the 1850s, the literacy rate in the United States was I think anywhere
[35:39.520 --> 35:43.920] from 93% to 100% in literary.
[35:43.920 --> 35:46.360] That was significantly higher than it is today.
[35:46.360 --> 35:52.320] All of our efforts to try to educate people through compulsory education has failed miserably
[35:52.320 --> 35:57.960] and so I think what we need to do is get the government out of the schools.
[35:57.960 --> 36:01.840] We need to make education not compulsory.
[36:01.840 --> 36:07.160] I think that when you bring children into the world, it's your responsibility to feed
[36:07.160 --> 36:08.760] them, close them and then educate them.
[36:08.760 --> 36:13.880] Now, a lot of people have transferred that responsibility to educate to the government.
[36:13.880 --> 36:18.120] Well, that's a serious mistake, that's like giving the keys to the girl's door to Jack
[36:18.120 --> 36:19.120] the Ripper.
[36:19.120 --> 36:21.440] I mean, that just doesn't work.
[36:21.440 --> 36:27.280] So I think that we need to get our children, if we have children, grandchildren, et cetera,
[36:27.280 --> 36:29.880] we need to get them out of public schools.
[36:29.880 --> 36:34.240] We need to basically provide an education.
[36:34.240 --> 36:38.760] You know, the kids can educate themselves better than anyone else if we would just simply,
[36:38.760 --> 36:44.640] once we teach them how to read and allow them to study and to work on the things where
[36:44.640 --> 36:50.920] they have passions, the students can teach themselves and the people can develop creativity
[36:50.920 --> 36:54.920] and they can realize and fulfill their divine potential.
[36:54.920 --> 36:58.600] So I think we need to get out of public schools.
[36:58.600 --> 37:01.280] So how do we get that done?
[37:01.280 --> 37:04.240] I know there is the voucher system.
[37:04.240 --> 37:11.320] Do you, how do you feel about that or do you have a different perspective on how to do
[37:11.320 --> 37:12.320] this?
[37:12.320 --> 37:15.840] Well, the whole funding mechanism for schools is completely wrong.
[37:15.840 --> 37:17.880] I'm 70 years old.
[37:17.880 --> 37:19.840] I don't have any children.
[37:19.840 --> 37:25.280] Why should I be spending thousands of dollars a year for the last 50 years to educate my
[37:25.280 --> 37:27.480] neighbor's kids?
[37:27.480 --> 37:29.480] That doesn't make any sense.
[37:29.480 --> 37:33.120] People that need services should pay for the services that they need.
[37:33.120 --> 37:35.200] It's your job to feed your children.
[37:35.200 --> 37:36.640] It's your job to close your children.
[37:36.640 --> 37:38.040] It's your job to educate your children.
[37:38.040 --> 37:42.240] It's not your neighbor's job to feed your children or close them or to provide them
[37:42.240 --> 37:43.640] with an education.
[37:43.640 --> 37:48.520] I believe that the schools should be, if schools need money, they should be funded by the local
[37:48.520 --> 37:53.720] communities and the people should have to pay a tuition.
[37:53.720 --> 37:59.080] Why should people have a free, if they're not getting a free education, they're getting
[37:59.080 --> 38:02.000] a free indoctrination is what they're getting.
[38:02.000 --> 38:08.120] So I think that we need to change the whole model of public educational funding.
[38:08.120 --> 38:14.760] You know, in the case of California, we have a million, we have a million illegal students
[38:14.760 --> 38:17.840] who are the sons and daughters of illegal aliens.
[38:17.840 --> 38:23.920] We're spending an average of $12,000 a year times one million kids.
[38:23.920 --> 38:31.120] I believe that comes to $1.2 billion a year to educate people who are to try to educate
[38:31.120 --> 38:35.880] people who came to this country unlawfully.
[38:35.880 --> 38:39.520] So I think our whole model of funding is wrong.
[38:39.520 --> 38:44.160] I think people should pay for the services that are rendered and if people have the ability
[38:44.160 --> 38:51.760] to do that, they would be able to control the schools and the curriculum.
[38:51.760 --> 38:54.560] I mean, people would vote with their dollars.
[38:54.560 --> 38:58.520] If they're paying tuition and they're not getting what they want, they're going to take
[38:58.520 --> 39:02.920] their tuition dollars to a different school that is teaching the curriculum and there's
[39:02.920 --> 39:05.440] more in keeping with their philosophies.
[39:05.440 --> 39:14.400] But in listening to this, this sounds like a prescription for segregating the society.
[39:14.400 --> 39:18.400] Clearly, it has and has nots.
[39:18.400 --> 39:25.840] Those who are poor would be destined to remain poor because they couldn't afford the higher
[39:25.840 --> 39:28.880] education or education at all.
[39:28.880 --> 39:33.160] So they wind up ignorant and enslaved by their ignorance.
[39:33.160 --> 39:34.160] How do we handle that?
[39:34.160 --> 39:39.520] Well, let's go back.
[39:39.520 --> 39:43.800] How many years did Abraham Lincoln spend in public education?
[39:43.800 --> 39:46.480] How many years did Thomas Sheridan spend in public education?
[39:46.480 --> 39:51.720] These people were tutored and educated in their homes.
[39:51.720 --> 39:58.720] The thing is, is that what you're seeing about the fact that it creates different, you know,
[39:58.720 --> 40:01.720] the risk would have a great opportunity for the poor would not.
[40:01.720 --> 40:06.200] That's assuming that the education is being given to the kids, well, it's not.
[40:06.200 --> 40:07.200] Education is not given.
[40:07.200 --> 40:11.720] It's something that is achieved by the individual's own personal effort.
[40:11.720 --> 40:17.360] You know, with the technologies and things that we have available today, a child can
[40:17.360 --> 40:23.080] learn a lot more and a lot faster in home working with his parents than he can in the
[40:23.080 --> 40:29.080] classroom with 30 other kids that are all creating a chaotic environment.
[40:29.080 --> 40:31.920] So I think I agree.
[40:31.920 --> 40:40.880] I grew up in the inner city of Chicago and the schools were just a place to house the
[40:40.880 --> 40:47.960] kids, to keep most streets that certainly didn't teach us anything of any value.
[40:47.960 --> 40:57.160] Well, again, I think that a lot of the reason, the women, mothers who are perhaps the greatest
[40:57.160 --> 41:02.040] teachers that the child will ever have, have been taken out of the home and forced into
[41:02.040 --> 41:09.640] the employment scenario because of the abusive taxation and the fraudulent monetary system.
[41:09.640 --> 41:15.280] So a lot of this, a lot of these problems are kind of intertwined.
[41:15.280 --> 41:19.800] I think that our corrupt monetary system is a big part of it.
[41:19.800 --> 41:27.920] And the system of, frankly, unlawful taxation is a big part of the problem.
[41:27.920 --> 41:33.000] And all of these things are designed by the people who I consider the predators to be
[41:33.000 --> 41:37.680] able to take advantage of the rest of us, which is the prey.
[41:37.680 --> 41:43.480] The basic in our society is divided into classes.
[41:43.480 --> 41:49.280] We have essentially financial relief, there's 540 billionaires in America.
[41:49.280 --> 41:54.960] And they control what's going on in the schools, they control what's going on in the media,
[41:54.960 --> 41:58.280] they control what's going on across politics as a concern.
[41:58.280 --> 42:06.360] Okay, understand, okay, you keep talking about how bad things are, what do we do about it?
[42:06.360 --> 42:11.640] Well, I think the first thing is, the first thing that needs to happen is people have
[42:11.640 --> 42:15.200] to become knowledgeable about the fact.
[42:15.200 --> 42:16.680] No, no, no, no, no, no.
[42:16.680 --> 42:18.920] People aren't going to do that.
[42:18.920 --> 42:25.880] People aren't just going to, after 6,000 years, are not going to just all of a sudden change.
[42:25.880 --> 42:30.160] What can we do to give them a path?
[42:30.160 --> 42:38.200] Well, I think that probably what we're talking about is trying to give people tools like what
[42:38.200 --> 42:42.400] you're providing for people, telling them what to do, giving them a roadmap for not
[42:42.400 --> 42:47.480] this safe society, but to help protect their own individual lives and their liberty and
[42:47.480 --> 42:58.600] their property by having a roadmap using their own statutes and codes to their benefit.
[42:58.600 --> 43:05.880] And the education system, you're more steeped in it and I look at it and I don't know how
[43:05.880 --> 43:06.880] to fix it.
[43:06.880 --> 43:13.960] Every direction I look at going seems to work to the advantage of some and to the disadvantage
[43:13.960 --> 43:15.960] of another.
[43:15.960 --> 43:21.240] Frankly, when I look at it, I have no idea how to fix it.
[43:21.240 --> 43:26.280] Hang on, hang on, we're about to go to break.
[43:26.280 --> 43:34.840] This is Randy Kelton, Rural Radio, our call in number 512-646-1984, I have the call lines
[43:34.840 --> 43:35.840] open.
[43:35.840 --> 43:44.040] So, if you have a question or comment, give us a call, we'll be right back.
[43:44.040 --> 43:54.040] So, Randy, will you and I can talk now?
[43:54.040 --> 43:56.040] Hold on, hold on, hold on.
[43:56.040 --> 44:01.920] I'm trying to get this thing to go out.
[44:01.920 --> 44:04.920] You there, Robert?
[44:04.920 --> 44:12.640] Robert, are you there?
[44:12.640 --> 44:14.920] We are having some issues here.
[44:14.920 --> 44:17.680] I don't even know if we're on the air.
[44:17.680 --> 44:22.680] Robert, are we on the air?
[44:22.680 --> 44:36.120] Okay, let me see if I can get Robert on.
[44:36.120 --> 44:42.320] Okay, this is not working.
[44:42.320 --> 44:46.160] Okay, my clock has released its refresh.
[44:46.160 --> 44:52.040] I've never heard this thing take us out, so we, time events are off because we had to
[44:52.040 --> 45:00.360] hit the panic button and I can't talk to my producer.
[45:00.360 --> 45:14.040] Let me see if I can get him on the phone.
[45:14.040 --> 45:16.720] I'm sorry, I had to mute you going out.
[45:16.720 --> 45:18.800] I'm not sure if we're on the air or off the air.
[45:18.800 --> 45:20.800] I'm not sure what's happening here.
[45:20.800 --> 45:21.800] Okay.
[45:21.800 --> 45:22.800] That's Robert.
[45:22.800 --> 45:27.960] Let's see, what's he telling me?
[45:27.960 --> 45:30.200] NASA help.
[45:30.200 --> 45:32.320] You are on the air.
[45:32.320 --> 45:35.520] Okay, NASA, am I still on the air?
[45:35.520 --> 45:38.520] Can you hear me?
[45:38.520 --> 45:46.560] Okay, I think if I can, I'm going to have to push the panic button.
[45:46.560 --> 45:53.320] This is turning into a real mess.
[45:53.320 --> 46:05.320] Okay, I've hit the panic button, but it doesn't appear to be taking.
[46:05.320 --> 46:14.000] Okay, well you're just going to have to talk through the break because there's no time
[46:14.000 --> 46:15.000] events.
[46:15.000 --> 46:18.000] Well, I can't tell if I'm in or out.
[46:18.000 --> 46:21.360] I couldn't tell if I went off the air.
[46:21.360 --> 46:23.160] On the air, I don't know what's going on.
[46:23.160 --> 46:24.160] You're on.
[46:24.160 --> 46:25.160] Okay.
[46:25.160 --> 46:31.160] Okay, I'm on the air right now.
[46:31.160 --> 46:32.160] Yes.
[46:32.160 --> 46:33.160] Oops.
[46:33.160 --> 46:38.160] Okay, guys, pretend like you didn't hear all that backside stuff.
[46:38.160 --> 46:45.280] Okay, we know this is an unusual problem.
[46:45.280 --> 46:46.280] This is not the problem.
[46:46.280 --> 46:50.240] We have problems on occasion, they seem to always be a new one.
[46:50.240 --> 46:55.600] So in this case, I don't know if I'm going out or coming in when I'm on the air or when
[46:55.600 --> 47:00.440] I'm not on the air, so we can't tell any jokes on the break, I guess.
[47:00.440 --> 47:01.440] Okay.
[47:01.440 --> 47:08.360] Well, one thing I would really like to do is I'd like to encourage the listening audience
[47:08.360 --> 47:11.520] to go to the Constitution Club website.
[47:11.520 --> 47:12.520] You can find it.
[47:12.520 --> 47:16.960] If you just do a Google search and you type in Constitution Club, it'll be the very top
[47:16.960 --> 47:23.960] link at the top of the page, I believe, and again, it's www.constitutionclub.ning.com,
[47:23.960 --> 47:30.840] www.constitutionclub.ning.com, I'd like to encourage you to join us and to be able to
[47:30.840 --> 47:36.200] share your thoughts, your ideas, your opinions, your suggestions with us, helping to enlighten
[47:36.200 --> 47:37.200] us.
[47:37.200 --> 47:41.960] I know that I'm going to be gaining a great deal of knowledge from Randy with all of the
[47:41.960 --> 47:50.400] experience and knowledge that he has acquired over the years in regards to the rule of law.
[47:50.400 --> 47:57.160] When you've gone 70 years like I have through the system and you've been a so-called loyal
[47:57.160 --> 48:03.440] true blue citizen, it takes a while to get unprogrammed or deprogrammed and I'm in the
[48:03.440 --> 48:10.320] process of doing that and I look forward to my relationship with the rule of law radio
[48:10.320 --> 48:16.040] because I think that most people are not really concerned about the problems that other people
[48:16.040 --> 48:22.000] are experiencing but they're very concerned about problems that they're personally experiencing
[48:22.000 --> 48:30.000] and I think that if people can learn how to use law to be able to get justice, it's going
[48:30.000 --> 48:34.640] to give people a real sense of empowerment and it's going to give people an opportunity
[48:34.640 --> 48:38.720] to be able to help educate their neighbor and to give them the key that will unlock the
[48:38.720 --> 48:41.960] door to more freedom and more independence.
[48:41.960 --> 48:50.640] It is the purpose of this show to give people exactly those kinds of tools and I'm an engineer
[48:50.640 --> 48:57.760] so as an engineer I don't have philosophies, I don't have theologies, all I do is connect
[48:57.760 --> 49:04.280] dots and when I have an issue, when I have a problem, this is what engineers do, they
[49:04.280 --> 49:11.600] design solutions and I spent 30 years researching the system.
[49:11.600 --> 49:20.320] I had an advantage in that I started early because I was a Vietnam veteran and I came
[49:20.320 --> 49:29.480] back one of those disgruntled vets, when I got out of the military it was clear to me
[49:29.480 --> 49:34.840] that the government will lie to you when the truth would do better.
[49:34.840 --> 49:44.920] So I got a jump start and in 1981 I was arrested for driving with a headlight out.
[49:44.920 --> 49:45.920] At the time...
[49:45.920 --> 49:46.920] An infraction.
[49:46.920 --> 49:56.600] Now in Texas it's a crime, they're not infractions or infractions in California but not in Texas
[49:56.600 --> 50:01.760] and the police was just in a bad mood that day, they had just passed the requirement
[50:01.760 --> 50:06.920] that you have insurance and he asked me for proof of insurance and I said if I show you
[50:06.920 --> 50:12.920] my proof of insurance and it shows that my insurance expired yesterday, what are you
[50:12.920 --> 50:13.920] going to do?
[50:13.920 --> 50:15.640] He said I'm going to write you a ticket.
[50:15.640 --> 50:20.000] I said well then I'm not going to give you any information you can use against me.
[50:20.000 --> 50:22.920] So he arrested me immediately.
[50:22.920 --> 50:29.360] Took me off to jail, spent the night in jail, I got out the next day and that just didn't
[50:29.360 --> 50:31.520] seem right.
[50:31.520 --> 50:37.120] That didn't seem like the liberty I went to combat to protect.
[50:37.120 --> 50:41.520] So I got out the penal code and the code of criminal procedure and I read them but I read
[50:41.520 --> 50:45.160] them from the perspective of an engineer.
[50:45.160 --> 50:48.560] I read them like they were tech manuals.
[50:48.560 --> 50:58.080] Then I looked at the practice of law and I thought have I stepped through the looking
[50:58.080 --> 51:00.560] glass?
[51:00.560 --> 51:07.400] How can the practice be so different than the codes?
[51:07.400 --> 51:12.720] That set me on a 15 year odyssey to figure out what I had missed.
[51:12.720 --> 51:19.600] Now after about 15 years research it became clear I didn't miss anything.
[51:19.600 --> 51:23.880] It said exactly what it said and it met what it said.
[51:23.880 --> 51:28.760] What they were doing was not even close to what the law commanded.
[51:28.760 --> 51:33.080] So okay, figured out what the problem is.
[51:33.080 --> 51:35.960] Now how do I fix it?
[51:35.960 --> 51:39.720] That took another 15 years.
[51:39.720 --> 51:48.480] Only as an engineer I'm looking for the smallest change that I can make that will affect the
[51:48.480 --> 51:51.560] entire system.
[51:51.560 --> 51:57.160] And over time it boiled down to examining trials.
[51:57.160 --> 52:04.480] Biggest problem with the criminal justice system is we no longer have examining trials.
[52:04.480 --> 52:10.320] From looking at it from the outside that's not necessarily obvious.
[52:10.320 --> 52:16.760] And often the most effective solution is not the obvious solution.
[52:16.760 --> 52:22.120] The obvious solution is most often the most ineffective solution.
[52:22.120 --> 52:25.560] And in this case that turned out to be exactly the case.
[52:25.560 --> 52:32.920] If I can get examining trials put back in the system.
[52:32.920 --> 52:37.320] So the most part these problems we're having with the police and the prosecutors and all
[52:37.320 --> 52:43.320] these others will just begin to take care of themselves.
[52:43.320 --> 52:53.400] But getting the system back in line with law has been incredibly difficult.
[52:53.400 --> 53:00.560] Because those in positions of power and authority the last thing they want is the law to be
[53:00.560 --> 53:03.920] enforced the way it's written.
[53:03.920 --> 53:09.760] If it's enforced the way it's written these guys can't play fast and loose with the law.
[53:09.760 --> 53:13.640] They can't pay judges to rule in their favor.
[53:13.640 --> 53:24.880] They can't influence politicians to change the laws so that they no longer achieve justice.
[53:24.880 --> 53:29.840] One of the things about Trump when he got in he intended to enforce the immigration laws.
[53:29.840 --> 53:34.520] Everybody just hopped up and down and waved their hands and railed in righteous indignation
[53:34.520 --> 53:39.120] and I thought are you kidding me?
[53:39.120 --> 53:47.280] Trump is saying this is what the law says and all of his opponents are saying oh yeah
[53:47.280 --> 53:49.120] yeah that's what it says.
[53:49.120 --> 53:57.080] But we don't want it enforced or if you don't want it enforced change it.
[53:57.080 --> 54:02.640] As long as it is what it is follow it.
[54:02.640 --> 54:09.880] Follow it to the letter and what I worked out over time how to go about this is we try
[54:09.880 --> 54:13.800] to become very pedantic.
[54:13.800 --> 54:21.920] We really ask public officials to follow law and I know that is an outrageous thing to
[54:21.920 --> 54:25.480] ask a public official.
[54:25.480 --> 54:32.920] But when I read the code he has sworn on his oath that he would do just exactly that and
[54:32.920 --> 54:38.480] I don't think it's unreasonable to ask him to do just exactly that.
[54:38.480 --> 54:45.520] I don't care what your opinion about the code is and I certainly don't want to judge
[54:45.520 --> 54:52.520] coming into one of my courtrooms at administering justice.
[54:52.520 --> 54:55.400] That's not what he's there for.
[54:55.400 --> 54:59.280] He's there to determine the law and determine the facts in accordance to rules of evidence
[54:59.280 --> 55:03.160] and apply the laws that comes to him to the facts in the case.
[55:03.160 --> 55:08.600] His personal perspective on what is just and what is not just I am not interested.
[55:08.600 --> 55:14.760] He better not bring it into my court or we're going to have a fight.
[55:14.760 --> 55:21.960] If the law does not produce just outcomes it is the position of the legislature to change
[55:21.960 --> 55:22.960] the law.
[55:22.960 --> 55:30.640] It is not the place of the judge to decide which laws he likes, which ones he don't.
[55:30.640 --> 55:38.480] So as a pedantic engineer I look for the solutions to that and how do we fix it when a judge
[55:38.480 --> 55:40.680] doesn't follow law?
[55:40.680 --> 55:47.160] Well we file criminal charges against him of course and what happens if you file a criminal
[55:47.160 --> 55:50.960] charge against a public official?
[55:50.960 --> 55:56.640] Well the officials who get the charge are going to refuse to act on it, at least we
[55:56.640 --> 56:03.560] hope they do and in this show we've developed a whole technique of how to deal with that.
[56:03.560 --> 56:05.280] We are realists.
[56:05.280 --> 56:10.360] We understand how things really work.
[56:10.360 --> 56:20.360] We also know how they should work and we tailor what we do to bring the way things really
[56:20.360 --> 56:25.200] work in line to how they are supposed to work.
[56:25.200 --> 56:29.080] They're the servants, we're the masters.
[56:29.080 --> 56:32.040] They step across one of our legal lines.
[56:32.040 --> 56:33.040] Go ahead.
[56:33.040 --> 56:44.320] Now do you have a course of study or a curriculum then that you provide in the form of e-books
[56:44.320 --> 56:48.040] or podcasts or both?
[56:48.040 --> 56:57.600] I have an e-book, Legal 101, but most of what we do here on the show, once you boil it
[56:57.600 --> 57:03.240] down to its components it's not near so hard as one would think.
[57:03.240 --> 57:09.560] The hardest thing is to get past our unstated presuppositions.
[57:09.560 --> 57:12.960] These are the things we struggle with more than any other.
[57:12.960 --> 57:17.800] I still catch myself falling into unstated presuppositions.
[57:17.800 --> 57:25.360] I just wrote a document for someone because in a municipality, the municipality appointed
[57:25.360 --> 57:30.920] an administrative board and the administrative board ruled on a criminal case which they're
[57:30.920 --> 57:33.720] not allowed to do.
[57:33.720 --> 57:36.520] So I was looking at the administrative board.
[57:36.520 --> 57:40.760] One of them wasn't a member that didn't live in the city so I said, how do they have administrative
[57:40.760 --> 57:42.480] board members that's not in the city?
[57:42.480 --> 57:43.560] Okay, let's see.
[57:43.560 --> 57:45.880] How do they set up administrative boards?
[57:45.880 --> 57:52.680] There wasn't anything, there wasn't anything that authorized them to create an administrative
[57:52.680 --> 57:56.320] board in the first place.
[57:56.320 --> 58:00.040] Never occurred to me to ask, is it administrative board legal?
[58:00.040 --> 58:04.920] I just accepted it, unstated presuppositions.
[58:04.920 --> 58:10.240] Once we start taking apart those unstated presuppositions everything changes.
[58:10.240 --> 58:18.000] We go back to the beginning and we start down the code and we use a statute every state
[58:18.000 --> 58:19.640] has, official misconduct.
[58:19.640 --> 58:21.480] We're about to go to break up.
[58:21.480 --> 58:25.200] I'll address that when we come back.
[58:25.200 --> 58:28.640] Almost everything can be fixed with official misconduct.
[58:28.640 --> 58:31.800] It's really a lot simpler though, simpler than you would think.
[58:31.800 --> 58:34.080] This is Randy Kelton, Wheel of Law Radio.
[58:34.080 --> 58:39.080] We have a full board of callers and we'll do about one more segment on this and then
[58:39.080 --> 58:44.280] we'll start going to the call boards and Keith, you'll get an idea of what we actually do
[58:44.280 --> 58:45.280] in the show.
[58:45.280 --> 58:46.280] We'll be right back.
[58:46.280 --> 58:49.240] We can't go to break.
[58:49.240 --> 58:53.360] Oh, we can't go to break?
[58:53.360 --> 58:54.360] No.
[58:54.360 --> 58:58.240] Okay, then we'll just keep going just as if there is no break.
[58:58.240 --> 58:59.960] Okay, that'll work.
[58:59.960 --> 59:03.520] Okay, Keith, we do have a question.
[59:03.520 --> 59:04.520] When?
[59:04.520 --> 59:11.360] Robert, was that you or that Keith, I'm good.
[59:11.360 --> 59:14.720] Robert, are we still live?
[59:14.720 --> 59:15.720] Yes.
[59:15.720 --> 59:16.720] Okay.
[59:16.720 --> 59:17.880] Okay, good, good, good.
[59:17.880 --> 59:22.320] Okay, we have a simple prescription.
[59:22.320 --> 59:28.560] Read the law, read what it says and assume that it means exactly what it says and then
[59:28.560 --> 59:35.080] read, especially read, in Texas it's 39.03 Texas Penal Code.
[59:35.080 --> 59:42.240] Every state has a statute similar to this because it reflects the Ku Klux Klan Act of
[59:42.240 --> 59:45.440] 1871.
[59:45.440 --> 59:50.560] Most people know about 42 U.S. Code 1983.
[59:50.560 --> 59:57.400] That's the code that allows you to sue a public official if he exerts a proportionate authority
[59:57.400 --> 01:00:02.320] he doesn't have it in the process, not as uniform free access to enjoyment of right.
[01:00:02.320 --> 01:00:08.360] What most people don't know is that is the second half of the Ku Klux Klan Act.
[01:00:08.360 --> 01:00:13.880] The first half of the Ku Klux Klan Act says, and I'm paraphrasing here because it's kind
[01:00:13.880 --> 01:00:20.480] of long and convoluted, it essentially says that if a public official exerts a proportionate
[01:00:20.480 --> 01:00:26.720] authority he does not expressly have or fails to perform a duty he is required to perform
[01:00:26.720 --> 01:00:32.680] in the process, denies a citizen in the full free access to or enjoyment of right, well
[01:00:32.680 --> 01:00:36.160] that's a crime in every state.
[01:00:36.160 --> 01:00:41.360] So when I go to court and the judge has a duty to determine the facts in accordance with
[01:00:41.360 --> 01:00:45.880] the rules of evidence and apply the laws that comes to him to the facts in the case and
[01:00:45.880 --> 01:00:55.360] he does something else in the process, denies me in the due course of the laws, well I want
[01:00:55.360 --> 01:01:00.880] him to stand in front of a grand jury and explain himself, the judges say oh well if
[01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:08.320] I render a bogus decision why you can appeal and I had a district judge in Travis County
[01:01:08.320 --> 01:01:14.840] that I bushwhacked with a set of criminal complaints and I thought he said well Mr. Kelton you
[01:01:14.840 --> 01:01:24.320] should appeal, let me go back to how we got there, I bushwhacked him with a bunch of complaints
[01:01:24.320 --> 01:01:31.320] against the highest judges in Texas, the court of criminal appeals, we have two high courts
[01:01:31.320 --> 01:01:37.120] in Texas, we have the Supreme Court for several court of criminal appeals for criminal, well
[01:01:37.120 --> 01:01:42.200] I filed criminal charges against every one of the members of the court of criminal appeals
[01:01:42.200 --> 01:01:49.560] with the district attorney, district attorney refused to take them, so I bushwhacked Judge
[01:01:49.560 --> 01:01:56.800] Perkins, Robert Hopkins was a judge, I bushwhacked him in his courtroom with a set of criminal
[01:01:56.800 --> 01:02:01.800] complaints and he said well Mr. Kelton these criminal complaints, as a yes matter of fact
[01:02:01.800 --> 01:02:08.880] they are, and he said well Mr. Kelton on the district judge in Travis County district
[01:02:08.880 --> 01:02:12.920] judges don't take criminal complaints, I said that's okay your honor I'm not here to invoke
[01:02:12.920 --> 01:02:18.240] your duty as a district judge, I'm here to invoke your duty as a magistrate and that's
[01:02:18.240 --> 01:02:24.480] the duty from which you may not shoot yourself, well Mr. Kelton if you have a problem with
[01:02:24.480 --> 01:02:30.200] this you should appeal it, don't ask me to appeal, you go before a corrupt judge and
[01:02:30.200 --> 01:02:35.240] they render a bogus decision and they say oh that's okay, you can appeal before a whole
[01:02:35.240 --> 01:02:40.200] panel of corrupt judges and they'll really screw your royal, and he kind of left and
[01:02:40.200 --> 01:02:44.880] said well Mr. Kelton I don't think it's quite that bad, I said that's because you're not
[01:02:44.880 --> 01:02:52.040] pro se, I've got a better idea, I'll appeal to the grand jury and this was asked after
[01:02:52.040 --> 01:02:56.160] he suggested I file a complaint with the sheriff's department and I told him I had and the sheriff
[01:02:56.160 --> 01:03:01.160] threw it in the trash and that's when he told me I should appeal, I said I've got a
[01:03:01.160 --> 01:03:06.840] better idea, I'll appeal to the grand jury and the judge said well Mr. Kelton you can't
[01:03:06.840 --> 01:03:12.000] appeal to the grand jury, certainly I can, I can appeal to the grand jury to arrest the
[01:03:12.000 --> 01:03:17.920] sheriff for shielding from prosecution criminal violation 3805 penal code and the judge kind
[01:03:17.920 --> 01:03:24.160] of sat back in his seat and it was clear he was thinking could I get away with it if I
[01:03:24.160 --> 01:03:36.040] have my bailiff shoot this character. Point is we have, well in Texas it's my opinion
[01:03:36.040 --> 01:03:42.200] we have the best corpus turis of any state in the nation and the only one that, the one
[01:03:42.200 --> 01:03:52.760] that's second to us is California. Any remedy I need I have it right there in the code.
[01:03:52.760 --> 01:04:03.240] Problem's not the law, the problem is you and I as masters of the servants have not stood
[01:04:03.240 --> 01:04:09.640] up and screamed in righteous indignation the first time one of our public officials steps
[01:04:09.640 --> 01:04:19.480] across one of our legal lines. It was too difficult, too complex so to quote Shakespeare
[01:04:19.480 --> 01:04:29.440] we winked at their discords and we allowed the, our public officials to make a series
[01:04:29.440 --> 01:04:38.600] of seemingly minor adjustments toward administrative convenience and adjudicative expediency until
[01:04:38.600 --> 01:04:46.880] we've reached the point to where the practice no longer even resembles the law. The United
[01:04:46.880 --> 01:04:58.040] States holds approximately 3% of the world's population. We house approximately 50% of
[01:04:58.040 --> 01:05:06.360] the world's population of inmates. This is by far the worst police state the world has
[01:05:06.360 --> 01:05:11.680] ever seen bar none. And almost nobody knows about it.
[01:05:11.680 --> 01:05:16.600] And most of these, and most of these people that are incarcerated have never been found
[01:05:16.600 --> 01:05:21.840] guilty of anything by a jury. They've felt guilty to a lesser crime to avoid the possibility
[01:05:21.840 --> 01:05:26.760] of being prosecuted for a greater crime and in most cases these people have not committed
[01:05:26.760 --> 01:05:32.000] any crime at all and they haven't basically caused anyone to become a victim.
[01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:38.920] That is exactly the reason we have such a high incarceration rate. Every step from arrest
[01:05:38.920 --> 01:05:49.600] to trial is not only wrong, it is very specifically against particular law. And it is not just
[01:05:49.600 --> 01:05:57.640] against particular law, it's against particular law for a very specific reason. The entire
[01:05:57.640 --> 01:06:06.040] system has been adjusted over the years by prosecutors. The legislature in their wisdom
[01:06:06.040 --> 01:06:13.840] decided that since we have learning counsel in public employ as, as prosecutors, it would
[01:06:13.840 --> 01:06:22.440] be efficient to use that learning counsel to give advice to public officials. Really,
[01:06:22.440 --> 01:06:30.240] really bad idea. Would you really expect prosecuting attorney to advise the police in lower courts
[01:06:30.240 --> 01:06:36.160] in practicing procedures that would make their lives a living hell? They didn't necessarily
[01:06:36.160 --> 01:06:42.800] do this on purpose, but they advised the police in lower courts in practices and procedures
[01:06:42.800 --> 01:06:51.760] that served due to cave expediency. And through a series of minor adjustments, each one in
[01:06:51.760 --> 01:07:00.040] and of itself was so minor it seemed unimportant. But over a period of time these added up until
[01:07:00.040 --> 01:07:09.800] the people actually enforcing the law simply cannot make an arrest but what? I get 19 felony
[01:07:09.800 --> 01:07:17.000] and misdemeanor claims against everybody involved. Oh, and when I start filing against them,
[01:07:17.000 --> 01:07:22.120] they just hop up and down and rail and write this indignation, oh, don't blame me, don't
[01:07:22.120 --> 01:07:30.080] blame me, I'm just following policy. And when I ask a bailiff in court to arrest a judge,
[01:07:30.080 --> 01:07:34.280] oh, I can't arrest a judge, of course you're going to arrest a judge, just go up and drag
[01:07:34.280 --> 01:07:39.880] him off the bench. If you haven't asked a bailiff to arrest a judge in the courtroom,
[01:07:39.880 --> 01:07:45.400] you just haven't lived, you've got to do that once. And when the bailiff refuses, I always
[01:07:45.400 --> 01:07:51.240] tell the bailiff, well, you know, life is filled with little decisions, we all get to
[01:07:51.240 --> 01:07:58.720] make some. Your turn. Are you going to follow policy and keep your job? Or are you going
[01:07:58.720 --> 01:08:04.840] to perform your duty and not have to go to prison for shielding from prosecution? It's
[01:08:04.840 --> 01:08:11.480] your call. And do you think for one moment that this judge will even hesitate about throwing
[01:08:11.480 --> 01:08:20.800] your behind on the bus? This is the perspective from which we try to get people to come to
[01:08:20.800 --> 01:08:30.680] the court. Take off your litigants hat, put on your master's hat, and be pedantic. Find
[01:08:30.680 --> 01:08:40.160] the smallest, most minor violation of code you can and sting them for it. And you're
[01:08:40.160 --> 01:08:45.720] suggesting that this, and you're suggesting that most all of the cases that we're talking
[01:08:45.720 --> 01:08:51.560] about, the ones that are most common are going to be ones involving the vehicle codes and
[01:08:51.560 --> 01:09:02.240] the traffic citations. In Texas last year, there were approximately 8,400,000 cases total
[01:09:02.240 --> 01:09:13.000] filed in the court, criminal and civil. 6.6 million were traffic cases. This is where
[01:09:13.000 --> 01:09:20.640] we'll change the system. Policeman pulls me over in the county I live in, said, Mr. Kelton,
[01:09:20.640 --> 01:09:24.480] do you know why I stopped you? I said, no, but I'm sure you're going to tell me. Well,
[01:09:24.480 --> 01:09:32.240] Mr. Kelton, your registration has expired. I said, only two years, what's the problem?
[01:09:32.240 --> 01:09:37.960] He goes back to write me a ticket. I dial 911. I ask them to send an officer out to
[01:09:37.960 --> 01:09:44.000] arrest his policeman for first-degree felony aggravated assault, criminal violation 2202,
[01:09:44.000 --> 01:09:52.160] B2A Texas penal code. I will swear out the complaint. Well, the dispatcher let the cop
[01:09:52.160 --> 01:09:58.080] know that I was trying to get him arrested. Oh, he was so furious, he was shaking. He
[01:09:58.080 --> 01:10:04.240] made the mistake. He didn't know who I was, or he would have never done that. Here's how
[01:10:04.240 --> 01:10:12.240] I get there. The Texas Transportation Code is a code of limited enforcement. Texas Highway
[01:10:12.240 --> 01:10:18.960] Patrol is authorized to enforce the transportation code, and the code authorizes the county commissioners
[01:10:18.960 --> 01:10:25.800] court to appoint five sheriff's deputies to enforce the code, but the commissioners
[01:10:25.800 --> 01:10:33.880] court has to pay them. Came about this way because when they put in the commercial licensing
[01:10:33.880 --> 01:10:41.720] of trucks in the late 40s, the sheriff said, man, you're not putting this statutory scheme
[01:10:41.720 --> 01:10:47.320] on me. I don't have the funds to enforce all of this. So they created the state highway
[01:10:47.320 --> 01:10:54.280] patrol for the purpose of enforcing this new commercial transportation code. And then they
[01:10:54.280 --> 01:11:01.840] said, okay, well, if you want some of your sheriff's deputies to enforce it, then the
[01:11:01.840 --> 01:11:06.560] county commissioners court can appoint five of them, but they have to pay them. The funds
[01:11:06.560 --> 01:11:11.440] for enforcing that's not coming out of the sheriff's budgets coming out of the commissioners
[01:11:11.440 --> 01:11:17.480] court. Well, I checked with the commissioners court and I wanted to see where this officer
[01:11:17.480 --> 01:11:23.640] was appointed to enforce the transportation code. And commissioners court didn't know
[01:11:23.640 --> 01:11:30.600] what I was talking about. They hadn't appointed anybody. So the officer turned his lights
[01:11:30.600 --> 01:11:36.640] on me under the authority to text transportation code, but he didn't have authority to enforce
[01:11:36.640 --> 01:11:45.280] it. He arrested my freedom of movement and seized me for Fourth Amendment rights. I considered
[01:11:45.280 --> 01:11:50.320] that an act of assault. If you commit simple assault in the state of Texas and you are
[01:11:50.320 --> 01:11:59.080] prominently displaying a deadly weapon under 2202b, that is a second degree felony. Unless
[01:11:59.080 --> 01:12:06.200] you are a public official acting under the color or pretense of an official capacity,
[01:12:06.200 --> 01:12:10.840] in which case it's felony the first degree. I didn't make it up, guys. I didn't write
[01:12:10.840 --> 01:12:17.000] the law. I just read it. Reason weep. And then I filed a professional conduct complaint
[01:12:17.000 --> 01:12:27.360] against the officer. He gets six of those. He's toast. Valid, invalid. The bonding company
[01:12:27.360 --> 01:12:34.080] for the jurisdiction doesn't care. He's an insurance agent. His job charges as much
[01:12:34.080 --> 01:12:40.840] insurance as he possibly can and keep for paying any claims. One of their officers
[01:12:40.840 --> 01:12:47.840] gets six professional conduct complaints. He's raising the bond rating for the entire
[01:12:47.840 --> 01:12:56.000] department. So what's the sheriff going to say? Man, if I keep you, they're going to
[01:12:56.000 --> 01:13:04.280] raise my rate for every one of my officers. Sorry, Bubba, you're toast. Okay, maybe that's
[01:13:04.280 --> 01:13:13.520] unfair. Well, see me as that's on, guys. Life is tough. So what's more powerful than the
[01:13:13.520 --> 01:13:19.200] criminal complaint is the professional conduct complaint. What's going to happen when the
[01:13:19.200 --> 01:13:24.640] sheriff sends his deputies out there to start writing tickets and all of a sudden they're
[01:13:24.640 --> 01:13:28.760] getting professional conduct complaints and criminal complaints against them. And they
[01:13:28.760 --> 01:13:34.400] go to my ticket website, put in their ticket information and I drop them down 110 pages
[01:13:34.400 --> 01:13:44.120] of documentation to file in the court. The policeman's going to go to his boss and say,
[01:13:44.120 --> 01:13:48.600] you want those tickets written? You go write those tickets. They're going to put me out
[01:13:48.600 --> 01:13:58.840] of business. When we start forcing the judges at the bottom to start following law, this
[01:13:58.840 --> 01:14:05.920] will have a ripple effect all the way up through the system and we're already having that happen.
[01:14:05.920 --> 01:14:16.000] We just had a judge in South Texas hold an examining trial. And it's well established
[01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:21.560] with all the judges that if you don't have a right to examining trial in a misdemeanor
[01:14:21.560 --> 01:14:36.400] case and we argued so what? The statute commands you to hold one and I have a right to do process.
[01:14:36.400 --> 01:14:43.280] So if you don't hold one, you deny due process and I do have a right to that. I had two judges
[01:14:43.280 --> 01:14:51.960] look at that and both of them say, that's right. I am right about that. Well apparently
[01:14:51.960 --> 01:14:59.240] this judge in South Texas ruled against this guy that used my documents. He started filing
[01:14:59.240 --> 01:15:06.280] criminal charges and just conduct complaints. So the judge went to the prosecutors and say,
[01:15:06.280 --> 01:15:14.560] show me how I'm right here and they couldn't. So the judge said, you know, you got your
[01:15:14.560 --> 01:15:21.920] policy but this is what the law says and he did what the law said. I think we have more
[01:15:21.920 --> 01:15:26.880] judges who will follow the law than we think we do. They're being trained to do it the
[01:15:26.880 --> 01:15:36.120] wrong way. We just have to bring the right question and the pressure because we understand
[01:15:36.120 --> 01:15:42.760] that you'll never win your case simply because you have the law and the facts on your side.
[01:15:42.760 --> 01:15:47.760] You win your case, you have the politics on your side and all the politics is local. So
[01:15:47.760 --> 01:15:53.800] we create little local politics. We hammer those judges, criminal complaints, judicial
[01:15:53.800 --> 01:15:59.240] conduct complaints. Now they have a reason to look carefully at the law when they see
[01:15:59.240 --> 01:16:05.680] what it really says. They start changing it. Every time a judge gets hammered, he talks
[01:16:05.680 --> 01:16:10.920] to all the other judges. They get together and talk about the problems that they have.
[01:16:10.920 --> 01:16:16.800] It won't take as much as we think to get this around to everybody. Does that make sense
[01:16:16.800 --> 01:16:24.520] to you? Well, it does and frankly what I'm wanting to do is I've been trying to do this
[01:16:24.520 --> 01:16:28.920] for the last couple of years and I haven't had any success and that is with my Constitution
[01:16:28.920 --> 01:16:37.400] Club website. Like I said, I've got an audience of around 4,500 and frankly I really want
[01:16:37.400 --> 01:16:43.000] to start focusing more on things that people can do where they can experience some success
[01:16:43.000 --> 01:16:49.360] in their own life. Like I said, to win some cases in court and that sort of thing. And
[01:16:49.360 --> 01:16:53.280] I think there's an awful lot of the members on my website that are very much interested
[01:16:53.280 --> 01:16:57.800] in the things that you're doing and I really would like to kind of form somewhat of an
[01:16:57.800 --> 01:17:03.240] alliance and what I would like to do is to get you or someone in your organization to
[01:17:03.240 --> 01:17:10.120] start posting on the Constitution Club website. We can create a special page for rule of law
[01:17:10.120 --> 01:17:17.360] radio news and updates and blogs and all sorts of things of this sort. So we can basically
[01:17:17.360 --> 01:17:23.680] promote you to the extent that we can and if I can get you or someone on your staff
[01:17:23.680 --> 01:17:29.840] to work with me in terms of trying to use my website to educate the people on the rule
[01:17:29.840 --> 01:17:39.160] of law. Okay. I have a tool I'm building for that purpose. TrafficTicket.website. That's
[01:17:39.160 --> 01:17:50.840] my site. TrafficTicket.website. But I'm designing it as a generic site that I can quite label
[01:17:50.840 --> 01:18:01.000] to someone else's site. If you go, right now we're charging 50 bucks for 110 pages of documents
[01:18:01.000 --> 01:18:06.480] and that 110 pages keep growing. We're going to change it so that the first set of documents
[01:18:06.480 --> 01:18:15.400] are free. You have someone go into the website, fill in the ticket information and I'm in
[01:18:15.400 --> 01:18:21.520] the process of building the backside structure right now. The system will just spit these
[01:18:21.520 --> 01:18:30.120] documents out. They're not generic documents. They're written to this person's case and
[01:18:30.120 --> 01:18:38.040] this is, I'm using this as a proof of concept for my electronic lawyer. So they file all
[01:18:38.040 --> 01:18:46.400] these documents and then they go to that first appearance and when they come back they click
[01:18:46.400 --> 01:18:53.880] on this questionnaire and it asks a set of questions about that first appearance. There
[01:18:53.880 --> 01:19:00.240] are a limited number of things that can happen at that appearance and this questionnaire will
[01:19:00.240 --> 01:19:07.520] address all the different possibilities and when it's done it will start spitting out
[01:19:07.520 --> 01:19:14.720] all of the documents that are implicated in the questionnaire. If you go before a clerk
[01:19:14.720 --> 01:19:22.240] and a clerk asks you for a plea it spits out a complaint for impersonating a public official.
[01:19:22.240 --> 01:19:27.920] When you sign the agreement to appear, if you're in Texas, you sign an agreement to
[01:19:27.920 --> 01:19:36.760] appear before a magistrate, not a clerk and clerks are not empowered to hold any kind
[01:19:36.760 --> 01:19:42.280] of a court hearing and they have to have a court hearing to take a plea. So she's impersonating
[01:19:42.280 --> 01:19:47.640] a judicial officer, 3711, penal codes, filling in the state of Texas, filling the charge
[01:19:47.640 --> 01:19:55.880] against the clerk. And if you refuse to give a plea and they call the bailiff over, criminal
[01:19:55.880 --> 01:20:02.640] conspiracy to commit, destruction of justice, first degree felony aggravated assault, we
[01:20:02.640 --> 01:20:10.360] just build them up. We are very pedantic and the nice thing about the tool is we can put
[01:20:10.360 --> 01:20:15.880] everything in there. It doesn't matter how complex it gets. Every time we come across
[01:20:15.880 --> 01:20:20.760] an issue we haven't seen, we open the tool up and say, okay, we stick a question in right
[01:20:20.760 --> 01:20:28.280] here and it'll go to that issue. The questionnaire never ever forgets to ask a question. So it
[01:20:28.280 --> 01:20:35.680] never misses anything. The smallest, most minor little violations, we hammer them for
[01:20:35.680 --> 01:20:45.480] it. What's going to happen when we start working these courts over right here at the bottom?
[01:20:45.480 --> 01:20:51.240] The, for the most parts, in California, highway patrols authorized to enforce transportation
[01:20:51.240 --> 01:20:59.240] code. And the city of Los Angeles is authorized. And I forget the name's not Oceanside. There's
[01:20:59.240 --> 01:21:07.320] a city just south of Long Beach that's authorized to enforce the transportation code on the
[01:21:07.320 --> 01:21:13.160] coast highway. And there's a couple other places around the state. That's it.
[01:21:13.160 --> 01:21:17.240] I feel like Mission Viejo or San Juan Capistrano or something.
[01:21:17.240 --> 01:21:26.480] No, it's not one of those. I remember when I see it, but it wasn't Mission Viejo or San
[01:21:26.480 --> 01:21:34.640] Juan Capistrano. I've been down there just south edge of Long Beach. Well, anyway, there
[01:21:34.640 --> 01:21:45.480] are a specific set of locations where local police are authorized to enforce. Nowhere else.
[01:21:45.480 --> 01:21:52.240] So, but they found out they'd make a lot of money enforcing these codes. So, you know,
[01:21:52.240 --> 01:21:59.840] we don't do the right to travel issue. We just hammer them with so much documentation.
[01:21:59.840 --> 01:22:06.840] The place I go first is prove that you have authority to enforce the code. If you can't
[01:22:06.840 --> 01:22:12.440] do that, then everything behind that's garbage and I start filing criminal charges against
[01:22:12.440 --> 01:22:17.400] everybody that touches it. And then when the prosecutor refuses to act on the criminal
[01:22:17.400 --> 01:22:22.320] charges, I file against the prosecutor. I file criminal complaints against him. I file
[01:22:22.320 --> 01:22:28.480] a professional conduct complaint against him. And that damages his career big time. So,
[01:22:28.480 --> 01:22:33.480] we start damaging their careers. We start costing them way more money than they can
[01:22:33.480 --> 01:22:39.920] collect. And we put police officers in a position where they're afraid to write tickets, afraid
[01:22:39.920 --> 01:22:50.560] they'll get their careers ended. It won't take many. In one or two in every county, it's
[01:22:50.560 --> 01:23:00.800] going to be enough to disrupt the whole system. That's my strategy here. I actually have a
[01:23:00.800 --> 01:23:09.720] bigger strategy than that. This is the way I start and this site will be a proof of concept.
[01:23:09.720 --> 01:23:15.440] I've been saying on the show for a long time that it is my intention to eliminate the profession
[01:23:15.440 --> 01:23:25.520] of lawyer and get lawyers to pay me to do it. And this questionnaires for that purpose.
[01:23:25.520 --> 01:23:32.440] If I build a questionnaire that a lawyer can send a client to and it addresses every single
[01:23:32.440 --> 01:23:37.720] element of their case and never misses anything, they're going to want to use it because the
[01:23:37.720 --> 01:23:43.600] biggest fear they have is missing an issue. And if one comes in with this and never misses
[01:23:43.600 --> 01:23:51.520] an issue, the other one's going to have to, too, so he doesn't get stampeded in the court.
[01:23:51.520 --> 01:23:56.520] And then we take this same questionnaire and make it available to the procé and he doesn't
[01:23:56.520 --> 01:24:03.160] need a lawyer. We'll use the lawyer to fill in all the empty spaces and then make the
[01:24:03.160 --> 01:24:07.640] whole thing available to the procé. We'll put them out of business and get them to pay
[01:24:07.640 --> 01:24:13.800] us to do it. That's the basic strategy. We have spent an hour and a half. Keith, would
[01:24:13.800 --> 01:24:18.640] you like to hang on and listen to what we actually do in the show itself?
[01:24:18.640 --> 01:24:21.760] I would like to do that.
[01:24:21.760 --> 01:24:28.520] Okay. I'm going to go to some of our callers so you'll get an idea of what we do in the
[01:24:28.520 --> 01:24:33.160] trenches. Let's go to Jeff in Mississippi. Hello, Jeff.
[01:24:33.160 --> 01:24:36.840] Hey, Randy. Am I coming through?
[01:24:36.840 --> 01:24:41.360] You are coming through. What do you have for us today?
[01:24:41.360 --> 01:24:50.040] Well, the city's around Long Beach and Bernadale Ray, El Segundo, San Pedro, Seal Beach, Manhattan
[01:24:50.040 --> 01:24:52.480] Beach and Redondo Beach.
[01:24:52.480 --> 01:24:59.120] Don't recognize any of those. I may be thinking of San Francisco. No, I'm sure it's, I'd have
[01:24:59.120 --> 01:25:09.560] to go back to the code, but it's a slepsis. The point is, is there's a few specific places.
[01:25:09.560 --> 01:25:14.560] It might be Redondo Beach, but anyway.
[01:25:14.560 --> 01:25:19.120] Well, Randy, I just got a ticket yesterday.
[01:25:19.120 --> 01:25:20.120] What?
[01:25:20.120 --> 01:25:21.120] Where?
[01:25:21.120 --> 01:25:24.120] Yeah, in Missouri.
[01:25:24.120 --> 01:25:31.120] Okay. You're getting tremendous background noise.
[01:25:31.120 --> 01:25:33.120] Oh, I am?
[01:25:33.120 --> 01:25:35.120] Let me see.
[01:25:35.120 --> 01:25:37.120] That's coming from somewhere else.
[01:25:37.120 --> 01:25:43.120] Okay. I think that was Keith. Keith, I got you muted for the moment, so whatever you're
[01:25:43.120 --> 01:25:48.120] doing, you can keep doing it. It won't bother anybody. Okay, go ahead, Jeff.
[01:25:48.120 --> 01:25:55.800] I'm driving a truck, and when we approach the weigh scales, we have an easy pass, which
[01:25:55.800 --> 01:26:05.120] is an electronic device that tells us to either pass by or go in, and it'll blink red or green.
[01:26:05.120 --> 01:26:10.120] And as I approached the weigh station, I was looking down at it, and it wasn't doing anything.
[01:26:10.120 --> 01:26:15.880] And my reactions weren't quick enough, and I shot past the weigh station and got a ticket
[01:26:15.880 --> 01:26:20.640] for going past the weigh station, but I told the policemen my electronic device is not
[01:26:20.640 --> 01:26:27.760] blinking. And I found out from my dispatcher that the weigh station had turned off the
[01:26:27.760 --> 01:26:30.720] card reader.
[01:26:30.720 --> 01:26:39.040] So my ticket is failure to obey a traffic device.
[01:26:39.040 --> 01:26:41.480] Traffic control device, yes.
[01:26:41.480 --> 01:26:47.760] Traffic control device, which was the weigh station, and I didn't mean to do it. It was
[01:26:47.760 --> 01:26:49.360] just something that happened so fast.
[01:26:49.360 --> 01:26:53.760] Okay, but the traffic control device was turned off?
[01:26:53.760 --> 01:27:04.360] Yes. The signal was turned off, so your NCAB reader didn't display. Now, the police
[01:27:04.360 --> 01:27:11.720] argument is, well, you should have turned in anyway, and he's got a point there.
[01:27:11.720 --> 01:27:18.680] Well, it should have or is required to.
[01:27:18.680 --> 01:27:23.240] Crimes go to mens reyes.
[01:27:23.240 --> 01:27:24.440] Okay.
[01:27:24.440 --> 01:27:33.000] Should every truck turn in no matter what, or are you, and it doesn't matter what you
[01:27:33.000 --> 01:27:41.120] should have done, it matters what the law commands you to do, and it matters if you
[01:27:41.120 --> 01:27:46.600] knew that the law was commanding you to do that.
[01:27:46.600 --> 01:27:53.040] So this is a traffic ticket. This is a crime. It goes to mens reyes. So you should file
[01:27:53.040 --> 01:28:00.360] a professional conduct complaint first against the officer who wrote the citation, because
[01:28:00.360 --> 01:28:05.600] he knew there was no probable cause.
[01:28:05.600 --> 01:28:09.040] You didn't meet all the elements of the crime.
[01:28:09.040 --> 01:28:18.920] Okay, this was a highway patrol, so you can't claim lack of subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:28:18.920 --> 01:28:27.320] You were in a commercial truck, so you did fall within the statutory scheme, but you
[01:28:27.320 --> 01:28:31.560] have a affirmative, well, I don't know if it'd be affirmative defense, but you have
[01:28:31.560 --> 01:28:34.920] the defense of lack of mens reyes.
[01:28:34.920 --> 01:28:35.920] Okay.
[01:28:35.920 --> 01:28:45.480] Let me ask a question about the device turned off. Was the device turned off in your truck,
[01:28:45.480 --> 01:28:48.960] or was it turned off at the way station?
[01:28:48.960 --> 01:28:50.560] At the way station.
[01:28:50.560 --> 01:28:58.960] Okay, so you got an affirmative defense. They can't turn, you could accuse them. You might
[01:28:58.960 --> 01:29:06.240] want to do some discovery to find out how many of these tickets were written that day.
[01:29:06.240 --> 01:29:08.520] Okay.
[01:29:08.520 --> 01:29:15.960] And claim that the highway patrols set this up so they could write these false complaints.
[01:29:15.960 --> 01:29:22.440] All right. As a way to generate revenue, that ought to get them hoppin' and jumpin'.
[01:29:22.440 --> 01:29:27.400] Well, my next question is, I haven't had a traffic, I've only had two speeding tickets
[01:29:27.400 --> 01:29:33.360] in my life, so I don't do this very often, but he gave me the ticket, so he told me
[01:29:33.360 --> 01:29:39.720] to write in either guilty or not guilty. Where should we go from there?
[01:29:39.720 --> 01:29:41.240] Write it in on the ticket?
[01:29:41.240 --> 01:29:48.760] Well, you know how you send your ticket in, and either say not guilty or guilty.
[01:29:48.760 --> 01:29:57.600] No, no, I've never heard of that. Normally, you sign the citation and agree to appear.
[01:29:57.600 --> 01:30:03.920] You're a commercial driver, there may be, you know, you actually are for real commercial
[01:30:03.920 --> 01:30:08.640] driver driving in commerce, and there may be a different set of procedures because you
[01:30:08.640 --> 01:30:11.960] drive across country.
[01:30:11.960 --> 01:30:13.280] Yes.
[01:30:13.280 --> 01:30:16.560] So I take it you wrote in not guilty.
[01:30:16.560 --> 01:30:23.240] No, I haven't. I haven't written anything, because I don't want to take a not guilty
[01:30:23.240 --> 01:30:29.240] plea and then get caught in their jurisdiction if there's a way to avoid that.
[01:30:29.240 --> 01:30:34.880] Not guilty doesn't. Oh, you are in their jurisdiction, you're not going to be able to get past that.
[01:30:34.880 --> 01:30:36.200] Okay.
[01:30:36.200 --> 01:30:41.160] You're a commercial driver. You're operating a commercial vehicle. At the time, did you
[01:30:41.160 --> 01:30:42.960] have a load on?
[01:30:42.960 --> 01:30:45.800] No, I was empty.
[01:30:45.800 --> 01:30:50.800] You were deadheading. Then challenge subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:30:50.800 --> 01:30:53.200] Okay.
[01:30:53.200 --> 01:31:02.480] Claim that you were not operating within the statutory scheme. And that the citation is
[01:31:02.480 --> 01:31:08.880] insufficient on its face, because it fails to establish the commercial nexus.
[01:31:08.880 --> 01:31:15.160] Okay. I was still attached to the trailer, though. I wasn't bomb-pailing.
[01:31:15.160 --> 01:31:19.640] No, no, deadheading.
[01:31:19.640 --> 01:31:24.000] You weren't operating for hire.
[01:31:24.000 --> 01:31:33.480] Now, you were being paid, but the owner of the truck wasn't being paid. But he's operating
[01:31:33.480 --> 01:31:42.200] this truck at his cost to go from one load to the next. That's deadheading.
[01:31:42.200 --> 01:31:46.560] And Highway Patrol knows exactly what that is. They know you don't fall within the statutory
[01:31:46.560 --> 01:31:49.840] scheme when you're deadheading.
[01:31:49.840 --> 01:31:57.640] But you do have a requirement to stop it, to allow them to stop and search your vehicle
[01:31:57.640 --> 01:32:03.600] on request. But they weren't trying to search your vehicle. They were trying to weigh your
[01:32:03.600 --> 01:32:07.800] vehicle to see that you're loaded, that you weren't overloaded. But you weren't loaded
[01:32:07.800 --> 01:32:09.760] at all.
[01:32:09.760 --> 01:32:15.560] So you claim you didn't fall under the statutory scheme at that time.
[01:32:15.560 --> 01:32:19.720] All right.
[01:32:19.720 --> 01:32:24.600] It's about making it too expensive for them to try to prosecute you.
[01:32:24.600 --> 01:32:29.760] Okay. Now, I still have this little ticket that they want you to either circle guilty
[01:32:29.760 --> 01:32:32.160] or not guilty and mail it in.
[01:32:32.160 --> 01:32:39.560] Okay. Circling guilty or not guilty in no way affects your rights. And it in no way
[01:32:39.560 --> 01:32:43.720] waives a challenge to jurisdiction.
[01:32:43.720 --> 01:32:54.800] You might want to include with the ticket when you mail it in a special appearance.
[01:32:54.800 --> 01:33:03.960] And the special appearance says that you do not fall within the in personum jurisdiction
[01:33:03.960 --> 01:33:14.640] of the state of Missouri because you were not operating in commerce at the time of the citation.
[01:33:14.640 --> 01:33:22.520] Or more specifically, is that the citation fails to establish that you were operating
[01:33:22.520 --> 01:33:28.040] in commerce at the time of the citation.
[01:33:28.040 --> 01:33:35.560] Whether you were in commerce or not, it's not relevant until we get past the sufficiency
[01:33:35.560 --> 01:33:39.720] of the allegation to start with.
[01:33:39.720 --> 01:33:44.280] The allegation has to allege that you were in commerce and has to allege facts to show
[01:33:44.280 --> 01:33:46.800] that you were in commerce.
[01:33:46.800 --> 01:33:53.200] And in order to be in commerce, you would have had to have been transporting goods or
[01:33:53.200 --> 01:33:59.480] commodities for hire and you were not. Does that make sense?
[01:33:59.480 --> 01:34:08.080] Yeah. Now, as a truck driver, I can't go to court.
[01:34:08.080 --> 01:34:09.080] Well under the...
[01:34:09.080 --> 01:34:13.080] Is this going to force me to have to appear?
[01:34:13.080 --> 01:34:18.000] Yeah. What they what what your company will almost certainly do is hire a lawyer to handle
[01:34:18.000 --> 01:34:22.680] this.
[01:34:22.680 --> 01:34:29.200] You are almost, you're required under the CDL, you're required to appear in court.
[01:34:29.200 --> 01:34:30.520] Oh, okay.
[01:34:30.520 --> 01:34:35.040] But you could appear by counsel and there will almost certainly, you're not going to
[01:34:35.040 --> 01:34:39.640] have to worry about this.
[01:34:39.640 --> 01:34:46.480] Once you give the facts to, you won't have to argue all these issues.
[01:34:46.480 --> 01:34:49.480] The company lawyer will handle this for you.
[01:34:49.480 --> 01:34:54.560] Okay. Well, they don't, they told me that they didn't have a company lawyer, but they
[01:34:54.560 --> 01:34:58.400] have a legal service and I have to pay for it.
[01:34:58.400 --> 01:35:05.440] Oh, okay. Then you can hammer them.
[01:35:05.440 --> 01:35:14.960] You follow a objection to oral argument. You ask that all rulings be made on the pleadings
[01:35:14.960 --> 01:35:22.280] and file this special appearance and then a 70-better jurisdiction challenge.
[01:35:22.280 --> 01:35:30.640] Okay. And go to go to trafficticket.website putting all the information. I'll spit you
[01:35:30.640 --> 01:35:34.840] out a bunch of documents. We may have to make some adjustments to them.
[01:35:34.840 --> 01:35:36.360] All right.
[01:35:36.360 --> 01:35:46.560] Give you Brady Motion, Motion and Limony, Mother Hubbard Motion, all stack of stuff.
[01:35:46.560 --> 01:35:47.720] Okay.
[01:35:47.720 --> 01:35:50.760] Just, just to let them know you're coming.
[01:35:50.760 --> 01:35:55.160] And this will keep me out of having to go to court.
[01:35:55.160 --> 01:36:01.840] Maybe. Nothing's absolute. The only things that are absolute is you keep guilty and pay
[01:36:01.840 --> 01:36:06.840] the fee, but then that stings your license.
[01:36:06.840 --> 01:36:07.840] Oh, it does.
[01:36:07.840 --> 01:36:08.840] Oh, yeah.
[01:36:08.840 --> 01:36:09.840] Horribly.
[01:36:09.840 --> 01:36:16.960] And that's what I was going to ask if you thought it was just easier to pay it and just move
[01:36:16.960 --> 01:36:22.040] on with it or is it worth doing some paperwork to challenge it?
[01:36:22.040 --> 01:36:29.560] I think it's a bad idea if you're a commercial driver because you only get so many marks
[01:36:29.560 --> 01:36:36.880] and they're going to shut you down. They're going to cut off your ability to do your job.
[01:36:36.880 --> 01:36:41.320] So you need to fight this. You need to keep them off your record.
[01:36:41.320 --> 01:36:49.880] All right. Now, the legal service that they offer, do I want to send all this paperwork
[01:36:49.880 --> 01:36:53.920] in and then pay the legal service to then take over?
[01:36:53.920 --> 01:37:03.920] Well, if they, if you file all the documentation first, then the legal service is going to
[01:37:03.920 --> 01:37:09.640] be much cheaper, then hire them and then when they don't do their jobs through the legal
[01:37:09.640 --> 01:37:10.640] service.
[01:37:10.640 --> 01:37:11.640] Oh.
[01:37:11.640 --> 01:37:20.080] Or bar grieve them. That'll get them hopping and jumping. Give them a reason to get out
[01:37:20.080 --> 01:37:22.080] there and make this go away for you.
[01:37:22.080 --> 01:37:23.080] I got it.
[01:37:23.080 --> 01:37:31.080] It's all about, yeah, it's all about politics at the end of the day. If the lawyer is looking
[01:37:31.080 --> 01:37:38.320] at having to pay double his malpractice insurance, then he's likely to get up off his can and
[01:37:38.320 --> 01:37:44.680] do his job.
[01:37:44.680 --> 01:37:50.200] For the most part, all the lawyer wants to do is make a deal. He'll go to the um and
[01:37:50.200 --> 01:37:56.120] say, okay, I got this guy for this. What kind of deal you make me? Make me a deal where
[01:37:56.120 --> 01:38:01.560] he pays a fine and keeps it off his record. And then they'll just charge you more money
[01:38:01.560 --> 01:38:03.440] and try to keep it off your record.
[01:38:03.440 --> 01:38:04.440] Okay.
[01:38:04.440 --> 01:38:10.080] The extra money they charge you will be less than it would cost you to fight them.
[01:38:10.080 --> 01:38:11.080] Yes.
[01:38:11.080 --> 01:38:18.800] So, at the end of the day, pitch your fights careful. Your professional driver, you don't
[01:38:18.800 --> 01:38:25.920] want this on your record. Even if it's a bogus ticket, you might actually get it dismissed
[01:38:25.920 --> 01:38:30.240] if you check to see how many of these tickets they wrote that day because they had the machines
[01:38:30.240 --> 01:38:31.240] turned off.
[01:38:31.240 --> 01:38:36.480] How do you do that? Do you do it for you? Oh, in discovery?
[01:38:36.480 --> 01:38:39.640] Yes. You just do discovery for it.
[01:38:39.640 --> 01:38:40.640] Okay.
[01:38:40.640 --> 01:38:46.880] Who turned the machine off? When did they turn it off? How did your boss know it was
[01:38:46.880 --> 01:38:48.880] turned off?
[01:38:48.880 --> 01:38:55.560] They have an electronic interface with the, I guess it's the DOT.
[01:38:55.560 --> 01:39:01.440] Okay. So, their system could read it and tell that it wasn't functioning or your system
[01:39:01.440 --> 01:39:02.440] could.
[01:39:02.440 --> 01:39:09.720] Okay. So, it knew it wasn't receiving the signals. That's perfect. So, you can accuse
[01:39:09.720 --> 01:39:16.520] them of having it off and using that as a poi to write all these tickets and then file
[01:39:16.520 --> 01:39:24.000] against the officer a professional conduct complaint for setting people up so that he
[01:39:24.000 --> 01:39:26.000] could write bogus tickets.
[01:39:26.000 --> 01:39:28.000] All right.
[01:39:28.000 --> 01:39:37.200] That would go to criminal, to official misconduct, criminal conspiracy. He wants to damage your
[01:39:37.200 --> 01:39:40.560] career. See if you can't work on his a little bit.
[01:39:40.560 --> 01:39:44.600] Okay. I'll get to work on it.
[01:39:44.600 --> 01:39:47.600] Okay. Do you have anything else for us, Jeff?
[01:39:47.600 --> 01:39:50.600] Thank you. No, that's it. Tonight.
[01:39:50.600 --> 01:39:55.600] Okay. Thank you. And try to avoid those diesel fumes. You know they cause dead-hidden.
[01:39:55.600 --> 01:39:59.600] Oh, it feels so good, though.
[01:39:59.600 --> 01:40:05.600] Okay. Thank you, Jeff. Okay. Now we're going to Sonny and Georgia. Hello, Sonny.
[01:40:05.600 --> 01:40:09.600] Good evening, Randy. How are you doing?
[01:40:09.600 --> 01:40:14.600] I'm doing good. What are you up to today?
[01:40:14.600 --> 01:40:25.600] Oh, I am plotting and planning on how to file an appeal and how to deal with just the hot
[01:40:25.600 --> 01:40:29.600] pile of mess that I have been dropped into.
[01:40:29.600 --> 01:40:38.600] Okay. First thing you do if you've been convicted is file. Did you have it? Okay. Had a jury?
[01:40:38.600 --> 01:40:47.600] Okay. You can't. Okay. You might be able to file a motion for reconsideration, but since
[01:40:47.600 --> 01:40:55.600] there's a jury I doubt it. So file a notice of appeal and how long have you been fighting
[01:40:55.600 --> 01:40:59.600] this case so far?
[01:40:59.600 --> 01:41:09.600] Since March of 2015, which is, I guess, about two years and eight or nine months.
[01:41:09.600 --> 01:41:17.600] Okay. So you ought to have a lot of issues for appeal.
[01:41:17.600 --> 01:41:24.600] Isn't this the judge that refused to accept any more motions or pleadings from you?
[01:41:24.600 --> 01:41:30.600] Yes. Yes.
[01:41:30.600 --> 01:41:37.600] First start out with a timeline. Do you have one of those at this point?
[01:41:37.600 --> 01:41:40.600] No. No, I don't.
[01:41:40.600 --> 01:41:47.600] Okay. I would like you to take the phone and beat yourself around the eyes and ears.
[01:41:47.600 --> 01:41:55.600] Write you up a timeline. You can start with the court docket.
[01:41:55.600 --> 01:42:02.600] Take that docket and then put in what happened before you got to court and all of the happenings
[01:42:02.600 --> 01:42:08.600] right into that timeline. Now you've got everything that occurred in line.
[01:42:08.600 --> 01:42:19.600] The problem we tend to have when we address these issues where you have a dog in the hunt
[01:42:19.600 --> 01:42:31.600] is you tend to focus on those aspects that affect you emotionally, that frighten you
[01:42:31.600 --> 01:42:38.600] or frustrate you or anger you. And then when you tell somebody about it,
[01:42:38.600 --> 01:42:45.600] you'll jump from one emotional high point to the next because that's what you tend to remember.
[01:42:45.600 --> 01:42:47.600] And there's a thing about the way memory works.
[01:42:47.600 --> 01:42:54.600] We used to think that we go inside and read memory and recent studies have indicated
[01:42:54.600 --> 01:42:59.600] that's not the way it works. We go inside and take the memory out.
[01:42:59.600 --> 01:43:04.600] We re-experience it and then put it back. We don't put back the original.
[01:43:04.600 --> 01:43:11.600] We put back what we re-experienced. So if we take a story out and we tell the story to somebody else,
[01:43:11.600 --> 01:43:17.600] and certain aspects of the story aren't important, I mean, who here hasn't told a story?
[01:43:17.600 --> 01:43:22.600] That was a really great story. And somebody asked, did that happen to you?
[01:43:22.600 --> 01:43:29.600] And you think, I don't remember because the telling of the story didn't really matter who it happened to.
[01:43:29.600 --> 01:43:32.600] It was just a great story, so you left out those details.
[01:43:32.600 --> 01:43:35.600] But when you put it back, those details weren't there.
[01:43:35.600 --> 01:43:40.600] So each time you tell the story, your memory of it changes somewhat.
[01:43:40.600 --> 01:43:46.600] So write a timeline. A timeline will stitch all the pieces together.
[01:43:46.600 --> 01:43:52.600] So when you pull the story out and look at the timeline, if anything's dropped out of your story,
[01:43:52.600 --> 01:43:56.600] the timeline will demonstrate something's missing here.
[01:43:56.600 --> 01:44:01.600] And you'll tend to recover those. And psychology is called revivification.
[01:44:01.600 --> 01:44:06.600] It'll reawake those memories and reset those links.
[01:44:06.600 --> 01:44:10.600] So get a good, effective timeline.
[01:44:10.600 --> 01:44:15.600] When you're in the case, your perspective is different.
[01:44:15.600 --> 01:44:20.600] When you're in the case, you're trying to set the record for appeal.
[01:44:20.600 --> 01:44:27.600] Once you finish the case, now you need to use that a record to create your appeal.
[01:44:27.600 --> 01:44:33.600] And you need to fill in all those empty spaces. Be the most valuable tool you'll have.
[01:44:33.600 --> 01:44:41.600] As you fill in those spaces, you'll remember things that happened that you had forgotten about.
[01:44:41.600 --> 01:44:47.600] When you're doing an appeal, you're looking for all the errors the judge made.
[01:44:47.600 --> 01:44:53.600] Some of those errors can be minor, and it may be one of the minor errors that gets your case overturned.
[01:44:53.600 --> 01:44:56.600] Be pedantic.
[01:44:56.600 --> 01:44:59.600] Write up a timeline.
[01:44:59.600 --> 01:45:06.600] Once you get the timeline written, I can send you kind of a basic form for appeal.
[01:45:06.600 --> 01:45:13.600] It's not that difficult, similar to emotion. They're generally formatted a little bit different.
[01:45:13.600 --> 01:45:18.600] Make sure you request a transcript. Request one early.
[01:45:18.600 --> 01:45:28.600] That's one of the requirements for appeal. You have to get a transcript to the court, and they're going to try to drag your feet on the transcript.
[01:45:28.600 --> 01:45:31.600] So get your timeline. Get the transcript.
[01:45:31.600 --> 01:45:39.600] Once you have the transcript, then have you filed for inability to pay?
[01:45:39.600 --> 01:45:41.600] I have not.
[01:45:41.600 --> 01:45:44.600] You might want to do that.
[01:45:44.600 --> 01:45:49.600] Inability to pay does not mean that you're destitute.
[01:45:49.600 --> 01:45:57.600] It means that in order for you to achieve justice, if you have to pay for all of this,
[01:45:57.600 --> 01:46:13.600] it will be unduly onerous that we will interfere with your ability to maintain your regular bills and such.
[01:46:13.600 --> 01:46:23.600] And the case this long, the transcripts are going to be relatively costly.
[01:46:23.600 --> 01:46:31.600] So if you can, try to defer the cost by filing an ability to pay.
[01:46:31.600 --> 01:46:33.600] It's worth a shot.
[01:46:33.600 --> 01:46:38.600] Yes. Since this is criminal, all the transcripts have been free so far.
[01:46:38.600 --> 01:46:44.600] Oh, okay. But it's not necessarily that way in every state. I don't think it's that way in Texas.
[01:46:44.600 --> 01:46:48.600] You have to pay for them. But if they're free there, then that's not a problem.
[01:46:48.600 --> 01:46:50.600] That makes life easier.
[01:46:50.600 --> 01:46:58.600] So get the transcripts. Look at your timeline and compare under the transcripts.
[01:46:58.600 --> 01:47:04.600] And you will find some interesting anomalies.
[01:47:04.600 --> 01:47:08.600] The court reporters tend to have a problem.
[01:47:08.600 --> 01:47:15.600] You know, they sit all day with those earmuffs on and they got some of them use voice.
[01:47:15.600 --> 01:47:21.600] They got this little deal on their face. Well, it causes some brain anomalies.
[01:47:21.600 --> 01:47:27.600] It causes them to have selective memory or selective hearing.
[01:47:27.600 --> 01:47:32.600] They tend not to hear the stupid stuff the judge says.
[01:47:32.600 --> 01:47:44.600] When the judge starts acting ignorant, the court reporter tends to have hearing issues and it's not in the transcript.
[01:47:44.600 --> 01:47:48.600] You need to be able to augment the transcript.
[01:47:48.600 --> 01:47:56.600] We have new laws now. We have the Fifth Circuit here in Texas has rules that we can record our public officials.
[01:47:56.600 --> 01:48:03.600] So anybody out there who goes to court, record the proceedings.
[01:48:03.600 --> 01:48:07.600] Don't tell anybody. Don't ask permission. Just record them.
[01:48:07.600 --> 01:48:19.600] The judges have rules against recording in the courtroom, but the judge only has the power to maintain the decorum in the courtroom.
[01:48:19.600 --> 01:48:30.600] If you secretly record a judge, that doesn't in any way interfere with the decorum of the courtroom or the proceedings.
[01:48:30.600 --> 01:48:37.600] And most all of the circuits have ruled that you can record your public officials in the performance of the duty.
[01:48:37.600 --> 01:48:42.600] I have some guys near Houston who have their recordings.
[01:48:42.600 --> 01:48:55.600] They also have a criminal charge against a court record watcher where the two bailiffs lied like dogs.
[01:48:55.600 --> 01:48:58.600] But he has a recording.
[01:48:58.600 --> 01:49:05.600] Never introduce a recording, introduce a transcript of exactly what was said.
[01:49:05.600 --> 01:49:14.600] And when the opposing side objects to it, you file this as a verified affidavit.
[01:49:14.600 --> 01:49:16.600] This is exactly what was said.
[01:49:16.600 --> 01:49:21.600] And when the other side tries to challenge it, you tell them that's exactly what was said.
[01:49:21.600 --> 01:49:28.600] I was in court four years after an incident and I told him exactly what was said.
[01:49:28.600 --> 01:49:37.600] And the prosecutors, this wasn't a criminal, it was a civil, the opposing counsel said, well, Mr. Colton, are you sure that's exactly what was said?
[01:49:37.600 --> 01:49:39.600] Oh, yeah, that's exactly what was said.
[01:49:39.600 --> 01:49:41.600] Well, Mr. Colton, you must have a perfect memory.
[01:49:41.600 --> 01:49:43.600] Oh, no, I have a horrible memory.
[01:49:43.600 --> 01:49:51.600] And when I said that, the judge ducked his head, put his head in his hand, it's kind of shaking, he said he's trying to tell the lawyer.
[01:49:51.600 --> 01:49:55.600] But the lawyer thinks he's on a roll, he thinks he's got me.
[01:49:55.600 --> 01:49:57.600] But the judge saw it coming.
[01:49:57.600 --> 01:50:01.600] Oh, you have a horrible memory and you're sure this is exactly what was said?
[01:50:01.600 --> 01:50:03.600] Oh, yeah, I'm sure that's exactly what was said.
[01:50:03.600 --> 01:50:06.600] Well, how can you be sure that's exactly what was said?
[01:50:06.600 --> 01:50:09.600] Oh, that's a transcript of the recording.
[01:50:09.600 --> 01:50:13.600] No rejection, no counsel, the judge says no counselor.
[01:50:13.600 --> 01:50:17.600] You opened that door.
[01:50:17.600 --> 01:50:19.600] Mr. Colton gets to walk through it.
[01:50:19.600 --> 01:50:23.600] It's called foundation.
[01:50:23.600 --> 01:50:30.600] Before you can enter the recording, you have to establish foundation for it.
[01:50:30.600 --> 01:50:35.600] You can enter an affidavit, a verified affidavit.
[01:50:35.600 --> 01:50:39.600] Then when they question the affidavit, then you can bring in a recording.
[01:50:39.600 --> 01:50:43.600] So anytime you can record, hide it.
[01:50:43.600 --> 01:50:48.600] And if they catch you, I always have two recorders.
[01:50:48.600 --> 01:50:52.600] Go on eBay and order some of these little spy recorders.
[01:50:52.600 --> 01:50:56.600] They got some really nifty one summer buttons, summer pens.
[01:50:56.600 --> 01:51:01.600] If they find one and order you to turn it off, turn it off.
[01:51:01.600 --> 01:51:04.600] If they want to erase it, I'll go ahead and erase it.
[01:51:04.600 --> 01:51:08.600] They never expect the second one.
[01:51:08.600 --> 01:51:11.600] Anyway, enough on recording.
[01:51:11.600 --> 01:51:18.600] Okay, but how do you be a transcript for an appeal?
[01:51:18.600 --> 01:51:23.600] He did deny me recording the jury trial.
[01:51:23.600 --> 01:51:26.600] I did ask to do that.
[01:51:26.600 --> 01:51:32.600] And I referred him to the 11th Circuit Decision of Smith versus the City of Cummings,
[01:51:32.600 --> 01:51:38.600] which in Georgia gives the public the right to record public officials.
[01:51:38.600 --> 01:51:40.600] Beautiful.
[01:51:40.600 --> 01:51:44.600] And he just scoffed at that and said, oh, that's just for public meetings.
[01:51:44.600 --> 01:51:48.600] And so, you know, I at least, you know, it's at least on the record.
[01:51:48.600 --> 01:51:52.600] And so now that's an appealable issue, I would think.
[01:51:52.600 --> 01:51:58.600] Well, what that will do is when you get the transcripts,
[01:51:58.600 --> 01:52:06.600] and you maintain that the transcript from the court reporter doesn't match what happened in the case,
[01:52:06.600 --> 01:52:16.600] now the denial of your ability to record it becomes an issue.
[01:52:16.600 --> 01:52:19.600] So that'll work in your favor.
[01:52:19.600 --> 01:52:23.600] Then you can ask the court to accept what you say,
[01:52:23.600 --> 01:52:29.600] because you were denied the right to provide absolute proof of what was said.
[01:52:29.600 --> 01:52:36.600] And they were denied improperly because the court in the process denied you in a right.
[01:52:36.600 --> 01:52:38.600] This will give you a good claim.
[01:52:38.600 --> 01:52:43.600] This may actually be one that would ruin your favor on.
[01:52:43.600 --> 01:52:51.600] I may not get the transcripts before I have to file my appeal.
[01:52:51.600 --> 01:52:54.600] Oh, you don't get them before you file your appeal.
[01:52:54.600 --> 01:53:00.600] You file a notice of appeal first, and then they give you like 60 to 90 days.
[01:53:00.600 --> 01:53:02.600] Okay.
[01:53:02.600 --> 01:53:07.600] And if you don't have a transcript within 30 days, you file a complaint against the court reporter,
[01:53:07.600 --> 01:53:12.600] and maybe even file a suit against the court reporter.
[01:53:12.600 --> 01:53:16.600] Because she's denying you your right to appeal.
[01:53:16.600 --> 01:53:21.600] Court reports like to play games with transcripts.
[01:53:21.600 --> 01:53:26.600] Court reporters tend not to produce transcripts.
[01:53:26.600 --> 01:53:36.600] So if it's me, she's under contract, or he, I'll go after the court reporter quickly.
[01:53:36.600 --> 01:53:39.600] Court reporter is not part of the good old boy group.
[01:53:39.600 --> 01:53:42.600] They're a private contractor.
[01:53:42.600 --> 01:53:45.600] And you can really go after them.
[01:53:45.600 --> 01:53:52.600] You want to try to protect the judge, but when you go after them, they'll protect themselves instead.
[01:53:52.600 --> 01:53:55.600] So don't put up with any garbage from a court reporter.
[01:53:55.600 --> 01:53:57.600] Just go for a throat.
[01:53:57.600 --> 01:54:04.600] All the court reporters have a oversight committee or a council.
[01:54:04.600 --> 01:54:09.600] They have to have a certification and the board that certifies them.
[01:54:09.600 --> 01:54:17.600] We had one in Texas where we had the court reporter and the prosecuting attorney throwing each other under the bus.
[01:54:17.600 --> 01:54:22.600] Court reporter had to go to Austin before a mediation hearing.
[01:54:22.600 --> 01:54:31.600] And if she didn't agree with the mediation hearing determinations, then she had to go before a criminal court.
[01:54:31.600 --> 01:54:38.600] Because essentially it wound up tampering with the government document.
[01:54:38.600 --> 01:54:46.600] So you can get the court reporter in a pickle if she tries to cover the judges behind.
[01:54:46.600 --> 01:54:54.600] And once you have the court reporter under threat of suit or prosecution,
[01:54:54.600 --> 01:55:04.600] then the court reporter has plausible deniability to give you the actual recording.
[01:55:04.600 --> 01:55:09.600] I requested the backup audio today.
[01:55:09.600 --> 01:55:17.600] And so she's got three days to respond under Georgia Open Records request law.
[01:55:17.600 --> 01:55:20.600] And so we'll see.
[01:55:20.600 --> 01:55:26.600] Okay, this may not fall under Open Records because she's a private contractor.
[01:55:26.600 --> 01:55:31.600] You might look at the law concerning court reporters.
[01:55:31.600 --> 01:55:38.600] Court reporters are able to charge for their work product.
[01:55:38.600 --> 01:55:43.600] So it may not fall under Open Records.
[01:55:43.600 --> 01:55:48.600] In Georgia, they're considered court officials.
[01:55:48.600 --> 01:55:52.600] Oh, wonderful. Wonderful. And that makes life a lot easier.
[01:55:52.600 --> 01:55:58.600] And since if it's criminal and they can't charge for it, then absolutely you got a good straight shot at her.
[01:55:58.600 --> 01:56:05.600] So Georgia is somewhat different than Texas and most other states have looked at.
[01:56:05.600 --> 01:56:10.600] So that'd be wonderful. You get to go for her.
[01:56:10.600 --> 01:56:13.600] Okay, on appeal.
[01:56:13.600 --> 01:56:19.600] An appeal starts out with issues you're going to raise.
[01:56:19.600 --> 01:56:25.600] The judge erred when he made this ruling.
[01:56:25.600 --> 01:56:29.600] You list the errors you're going to claim.
[01:56:29.600 --> 01:56:36.600] And then you do a general synopsis of what the case is about.
[01:56:36.600 --> 01:56:45.600] And then you do a statement of facts and make sure it's just facts and not conclusions.
[01:56:45.600 --> 01:56:48.600] But there is an art to a statement of facts.
[01:56:48.600 --> 01:56:54.600] Generally, my statement of facts is the last thing I edit.
[01:56:54.600 --> 01:56:59.600] I'll put in a pedantic statement of facts with everything I think of in there.
[01:56:59.600 --> 01:57:09.600] And then I go down and write my arguments in support, my points and authorities.
[01:57:09.600 --> 01:57:12.600] I say, here are the facts. Here's the law.
[01:57:12.600 --> 01:57:19.600] As you do that, the law will dictate the kinds of facts it needs.
[01:57:19.600 --> 01:57:25.600] So for each argument, you'll develop certain facts that you need.
[01:57:25.600 --> 01:57:31.600] When you get all your arguments for each of these points of error done,
[01:57:31.600 --> 01:57:35.600] then you go back through and look at the facts that you have remaining
[01:57:35.600 --> 01:57:38.600] and go up and look at your statement of facts.
[01:57:38.600 --> 01:57:43.600] And if you've got facts in there that don't go to any of these things, take them out.
[01:57:43.600 --> 01:57:47.600] So that when somebody goes and reads down your statement of facts,
[01:57:47.600 --> 01:57:57.600] you want the statement of facts to be put in there in such a way that a reasonable person of ordinary prudence,
[01:57:57.600 --> 01:58:06.600] when he's read your points of error and your general statement, he knows what you're talking about,
[01:58:06.600 --> 01:58:16.600] he will tend to connect these facts together in a way that fits your initial general claim.
[01:58:16.600 --> 01:58:22.600] So then when he goes and reads your points and authorities,
[01:58:22.600 --> 01:58:30.600] if the conclusions in your points and authorities match the conclusions he came to when he read your statement of facts,
[01:58:30.600 --> 01:58:38.600] he's going to think you're really smart because you came to the same conclusions he did,
[01:58:38.600 --> 01:58:44.600] and he's more likely to believe what you say. Does that make sense?
[01:58:44.600 --> 01:58:47.600] It does.
[01:58:47.600 --> 01:58:57.600] So it's really an art form. Statement of facts looks like just bare facts, but it's not just bare facts.
[01:58:57.600 --> 01:59:02.600] You construct it so the statement of facts tells your whole story,
[01:59:02.600 --> 01:59:07.600] and then your arguments in the sport tell the story again,
[01:59:07.600 --> 01:59:14.600] when you're finished you write in a conclusion that essentially tells the story again,
[01:59:14.600 --> 01:59:19.600] just in short form it stitches all those pieces together,
[01:59:19.600 --> 01:59:25.600] and then you ask the court to put in your prayer.
[01:59:25.600 --> 01:59:30.600] That's basically what you have in one. You need a table of contents and points and authorities.
[01:59:30.600 --> 01:59:36.600] Do you know how to do that in Microsoft Word?
[01:59:36.600 --> 01:59:38.600] It shouldn't be hard to figure out.
[01:59:38.600 --> 01:59:44.600] Yeah, you've got a section up there for references.
[01:59:44.600 --> 01:59:49.600] I'll find it real quick to tell you exactly how to do it,
[01:59:49.600 --> 01:59:56.600] but there's a section to do at tables of authorities and references.
[01:59:56.600 --> 02:00:07.600] You click references and...